[09:19] <kraut> moin
[09:23] <doko> lamont, kylem: is there a kernel which has the fix for http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=32857 ?
[02:49] <Keybuk> any particular reason that CONFIG_TMPFS_POSIX_ACL=n ?
[02:53] <zul> amitk: i added some more devices to the usb autosuspend blacklist as well
[02:53] <zul> Keybuk: not that Im aware of
[02:54] <amitk> zul: did you check _both_ my commits?
[02:55] <zul> amitk: not yet..
[02:55] <amitk> zul: please submit a patch against those commits. Thanks.
[02:56] <zul> can drop that one ;)
[04:24] <allyson> Hi, I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but I am not able to install a new module in the Ubuntu server 7.04. Everything compiles and install, but when I reboot the old module comes back. any suggetions?
[04:25] <IntuitiveNipple> allyson: blacklist the 'old' module in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[04:27] <allyson> Hum, I think I was not clear in my question, sorry. It's an module update, not a new module.
[04:29] <allyson> The old module file not even exists anymore. I don't know where it is been loaded from.
[04:37] <allyson> I have just found something, maybe I have to rebuild my initrd. I'll try that.
[04:58] <BenC> allee: sudo update-initramfs -u
[04:58] <BenC> err, late answer
[04:58] <BenC> team meeting in #ubuntu-meeting, 2 minutes
[04:59] <zul> whee..
[04:59] <allee> BenC: was this the answer how to add a linux-image to netboot.tar.gz content?
[05:00] <BenC> allee: no, improper nick completiong, sorry
[05:00] <allee> BenC: pity :)
[06:20] <bdmurray> BenC: I found a kernel bug with "apm: BIOS not found" in dmesg.  Is that indicative of something wrong with the laptop?
[06:29] <AnAnt> hello, how do I report problems with kernel ?
[06:29] <AnAnt> what outputs should I provide ?
[06:33] <ScottK> AnAnt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies
[06:36] <AnAnt> ScottK: now, what if I have a problem in booting ubuntu
[06:37] <AnAnt> ScottK: ie. it freezes at the Loading device drivers stage
[06:37] <bdmurray> Have you tried booting w/o quiet and usplash?
[06:37] <bdmurray> To get more details
[06:37] <AnAnt> bdmurray: yup
[06:38] <AnAnt> hmmm, w/o quiet ?
[06:38] <AnAnt> I'll try w/o quiet
[06:38] <AnAnt> thanks
[06:38] <bdmurray> Which kernel version is it?
[06:39] <AnAnt> bdmurray: I tried feisty & gutsy amd64 on my laptop
[06:39] <AnAnt> bdmurray: funny thing is that sometimes it works , sometimes not 
[06:39] <AnAnt> bdmurray: but if acpi=off, it is more likely to work
[06:39] <bdmurray> Which Gutsy CD?
[06:42] <AnAnt> bdmurray: live CD
[06:42] <AnAnt> bdmurray: I think it was 22/7 build
[06:43] <bdmurray> Cool.
[06:43] <AnAnt> ?
[06:43] <AnAnt> what's cool about that ?
[06:43] <bdmurray> That you are using a recent version of the CD.
[06:44] <AnAnt> oh
[06:44] <AnAnt> oh, the live CD worked
[06:44] <AnAnt> the gutsy live CD worked, it's the installation that didn't work
[06:44] <AnAnt> in feisty live didn't work
[06:45] <bdmurray> What do you mean the installation didn't work?  That the install process worked but you couldn't boot or that the install process failed?
[06:46] <AnAnt> bdmurray: install process worked, but couldn't boot after installation
[06:49] <bdmurray> AnAnt: So getting information from the Live CD regarding your hardware would be quite useful.
[06:51] <AnAnt> ah, yes
[06:52] <AnAnt> ok, thanks
[06:52] <AnAnt> bye
[09:28] <BenC> bdmurray: no, I get that on my laptop too
[09:28] <BenC> bdmurray: usually means that it's not APM, but ACPI
[09:29] <BenC> which is almost always the case
[09:40] <BenC> bdmurray: we've hit a threshold where it seems like there is more bug traffic for gutsy-2.6.22 than there is for feisty-2.6.20
[09:40] <BenC> not sure about the actual bug numbers
[09:41] <bdmurray> BenC: I think I have numbers
[09:42] <bdmurray> Do you mean rate of growth?
[10:11] <BenC> bdmurray: yeah, like the rate of NEW bugs
[10:11] <BenC> bdmurray: I can already see that the traffic alone has increased, which seems to be a good sign that people are testing it more
[10:11] <bdmurray> Yes, we talked about testing a lot at ubuntu live
[10:12] <bdmurray> Or getting people interested in it.
[10:12] <BenC> I just don't know if it means that we are just more active on those bugs or if it's more NEW bugs coming in :)
[10:12] <bdmurray> I have text files with numbers similar to carthiks at p.u.c
[10:13] <bdmurray> I haven't had a chance to graph them yet though
[10:14] <bdmurray> doh, I am graphing them!
[10:15] <bdmurray> http://people.ubuntu.com/~brian/testing_graphs/plots/
[10:15] <BenC> lol
[10:15] <bdmurray> comparing the week-open for 2.6.20 and 2.6.22 is interesting
[10:16] <bdmurray> there has been a slight upswing in .22 since tribe 3
[10:16] <BenC> yeah, definite spikes
[11:19] <bdmurray> BenC: Does "hdc: status error: status=0x58" indicate a hardware issue or is it hard to tell?
[11:19] <BenC> bdmurray: that's the usual case, but it could be driver related as well
[11:21] <bdmurray> hmm, is there more triaging information to gather than the usual stuff?
[11:25] <BenC> bdmurray: cases like that, just the usual, plus a request on whether it works with another kernel (feisty or something)
[11:27] <bdmurray> BenC: okay, thanks