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juliux | @schedule berlin | 12:26 |
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=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:ubotu] : Current meeting: Kernel Team | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 25 Jul 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 25 Jul 20:00 UTC: Xubuntu Developers | 26 Jul 15:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 27 Jul 12:00 UTC: MOTU Team | 31 Jul 15:00 UTC: Ubuntu Server Team meeting | ||
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zul | hello | 04:59 |
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BenC | ok, hello everyone | 05:02 |
BenC | This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team meeting, our agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting | 05:02 |
BenC | Unfortunately, Kyle and Tim are at UbuntuLive and wont be attending, which shortens our agenda quite a bit | 05:03 |
BenC | A few highlights of recent things we've been working on include UME kernel (amitk), and liveCD memory issues (pkl) | 05:04 |
BenC | amitk: would you care to elaborate on some of the work you're doing with UME, and plans for power management improvements? | 05:05 |
BenC | ah, amit has lost connection :) | 05:06 |
BenC | While he's regaining that connection...any questions from community folks? | 05:07 |
zul | not me | 05:07 |
zul | I didnt prepare anything at least | 05:07 |
BenC | this is going to be a short meeting, so we'll have time for this sort of thing :) | 05:07 |
zul | oh yeah ill try to get to vserver this week what about openvz? | 05:08 |
ScottK | Would anyone be willing to work on kernel bug triage while we wait? | 05:08 |
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BenC | zul: openvz looks like it may miss the gutsy release, but we are discussing possibilities with them | 05:09 |
zul | ok | 05:09 |
BenC | they are still based on 2.6.20 kernel, and the reject list is huge against 2.6.22 | 05:09 |
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zul | and im not touching it ;) | 05:10 |
amitk_ | I dropped out... | 05:10 |
BenC | ScottK: you're more than welcome to do that at any time :) | 05:10 |
BenC | amitk: saw that on the other server...we were just discussing some open topics, but I had wondered if you wanted to give an update on UME and/or power savings work in gutsy | 05:11 |
ScottK | BenC: Unfortunately for me, when it comes to the kernel, I'm more of a triagee than a triager. | 05:11 |
BenC | ScottK: heh, a good time for that is bug days, in which we'll have a kernel team person actively helping and working on kernel bugs | 05:12 |
ScottK | Sure. Just thought maybe it would be a target of opportunity while waiting. No problem. | 05:13 |
amitk_ | nothing big really - UME kernels seem to work on the menlow platform | 05:13 |
amitk_ | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/power-management-in-ubuntu has been modified to be more focused for gutsy | 05:13 |
amitk_ | and I am now working on splitting up the test cases for laptop-testing group in order to revive it | 05:14 |
BenC | excellent, the laptop testing sounds really promising | 05:14 |
BenC | amitk: have you contacted heno about the test infrastructure yet? | 05:15 |
amitk_ | no I haven't. I will do that right away | 05:15 |
BenC | hopefully they've been working on the backend already, and it will just be a matter of plugging in the explanations and reporting procedures that you come up with | 05:16 |
BenC | pkl_: you've been tasked with livecd memory usage problems, and with virtualization (mainly xen)...how's that coming? | 05:16 |
amitk_ | I would also like to put out a call for volunteers to do some powertop hacking (www.linuxpowertop.org) | 05:17 |
pkl_ | BenC: currently suspended, looking at the critical #126964 bug. | 05:17 |
pkl_ | That's the liveCD corruption and hang bug. | 05:18 |
BenC | ah, right | 05:18 |
pkl_ | The hang I traced last week to a race I put into Squashfs in April. Fixed. | 05:18 |
BenC | been able to point the blame at anything specific yet? | 05:18 |
BenC | good, nice work | 05:19 |
pkl_ | The corruption bug is much rarer, but very nasty. | 05:19 |
pkl_ | Unfortunately the available debug info proved impossible to track this down. | 05:20 |
BenC | pkl_: would this benefit from crashdump? | 05:20 |
BenC | I could probably write up something, and create an ISO which can handle crashdumps capturing | 05:20 |
pkl_ | I have put in a lot more non-invasive (i.e. no spewing rubbish to dmesg) logging via a psedo file (debugfs), and got some good debug info yesterday, | 05:21 |
pkl_ | I believe I know the execeptional set of circumstances which cause the bug. It looks like an undiscovered race condition in the Squashfs fragment cache code. | 05:22 |
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BenC | ok, if you need more extensive testing, would be good to talk heno about putting out a call for that | 05:22 |
BenC | otherwise, keep up the good work you're already doing | 05:22 |
pkl_ | Debugging is currently ongoing. | 05:22 |
pkl_ | Yeah, I've been up to 6am most nights.. | 05:23 |
pkl_ | As it's Squashfs I have a vested interest in fixing it, and a certain responsibility :) | 05:23 |
BenC | pkl_: sleep becomes a luxury at times :) | 05:24 |
BenC | Well, unless there's some other topics people want discussed, this meeting is at an end | 05:25 |
BenC | I'll give a short pause from the chair... | 05:25 |
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BenC | And, that's it folks :) | 05:26 |
BenC | thanks everyone, have a good week and so you all in two weeks for the next meeting | 05:27 |
amitk_ | bye | 05:28 |
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Meyvn | @schedule | 08:04 |
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