[12:15] mohammad: I think that you should just depend on firefox|iceape|seamonkey|xulrunner and use the gecko engine already installed rather than try to force it via your init. [12:16] That's part of what the packaging system does for you and you should let it do that and not work around it. [12:16] I have added firefox|iceape in the depends section but don't know how MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME should be initited .. [12:17] Can it just be disabled? [12:17] What does zekr do if it doesn't exist? [12:17] if MOZ5home is not set zekr does not work [12:18] I have installed firefox and iceape on my system but, moz5home is not set automatically, I believe it should be set manually [12:19] Hmmm [12:21] I'm looking for another package you can use as a model. [12:27] hey ScottK, I just submitted a bug in dapper-backports for sylpheed-claws-gtk2-clamav. [12:27] OK. What's the bug [12:27] Bug #127835 [12:27] Launchpad bug 127835 in dapper-backports "sylpheed-claws-gtk2-2.1.1 backport" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127835 === ScottK looks [12:28] If I need to add anything let me know. === sommer first bug and all. [12:28] mohammad: democracyplayer might be worth a look. They just depend on Firefox. === radhios [n=radhios@200-122-45-106.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Jazzva [n=sasa@cable-89-216-184-157.dynamic.sbb.co.yu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:31] sommer: It needs to be a proper debdiff. [12:31] ScottK: okay...I'll fix that up. [12:41] sommer: Don't forget that what you are debdiffing is the sylpheed-claws-gtk2 source package. === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:43] ScottK: right...uploaded the debdiff. [12:45] I wasn't really sure what to name it exactly. === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-098-159.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:52] ScottK: I am seeing the source of democracyplayer. But would you please let me know why you consider the issue of initiating MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME important? [12:53] Because in the Debian packaging system we are supposed to manage the configuration of the system through the packaging system. [12:54] Having the user have to manually pick which program to use with Zekr goes against the way the system is supposed to work. [12:54] During installation, users are not supposed to have to answer questions unless it is essential. [12:54] ScottK: you use sbuild, right? [12:54] Additionally, if you do have to, you have to use debconf and not a script. [12:55] ryanakca: No. [12:55] Gotta run. [12:55] Any other MOTUs feel free to jump in if I"m over stating the case. === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:58] ScottK: I agree that it is not good if user be asked at runtime about configuration. So zekr uses a preconfigured MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/lib/firefox automatically. Is that bad as well? [12:58] Ah. [12:59] Where does iceape install itself? [12:59] scottk: /usr/lib/iceape [01:00] So then if a user has iceape, all the depends are satisfied, but the program doesn't work? [01:01] ScottK: if user has iceape programs of course works === matysek [n=matysek@39.Red-83-40-70.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:01] programs -> program [01:01] How so? === matysek [n=matysek@39.Red-83-40-70.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ScottK is really leaving now. [01:04] ScottK: I have put firefox|iceape in the depends so at least one of them is installed. at the runtime zekr.sh checks whether /usr/lib/firefox or /usr/lib/iceape exists [01:05] ScottK: and then it will use one of them, === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:07] Any motu here could delete the file supertuxkart_0.3-0ubuntu1.dsc please === mwolson [i=mwolson@jpi-wlafyte-212-116.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:10] TheMuso, ? [01:12] jwendell: I don't have admin rights. [01:12] on revu [01:12] ah, ok [01:12] TheMuso, do you know someone online who has that permission? [01:14] jwendell: Not currently, no. [01:14] :( [01:14] TheMuso, i've tried all the day upload that big file, but it always failed [01:15] now i'm at home, on another internet connection, and i'd like to try ... === mwolson [n=mwolson@jpi-wlafyte-212-116.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:16] jwendell: I understand, but I am unable to help you I'm affraid. [01:16] c [01:16] ugh [01:16] TheMuso, no problem. Thanks, btw! [01:17] ScottK: If you take a look at the eclipse script, you will see that it set MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME the same way http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31005/ === zul_ [n=chuck@mail.edgewater.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:18] hey [01:18] ScottK: I think all the programs using SWT should set moz5home in the same way as eclipse has done it. === alex-weej [n=alex@cpc2-darl3-0-0-cust237.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Martinp23 [n=martin@wikimedia/Martinp23] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [i=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apachelogger_ [n=me@N738P022.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:38] hmm... Any sbuilders have an idea for this? E: Couldn't find package build-essential [01:38] on a gutsy schroot setup with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SbuildLVMHowto === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:48] ryanakca: Do you have a valid sources.list file in the chroot? === Gazer [n=ngazer@200.68.69.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:58] TheMuso: http://pastebin.ca/630863 === jsgotangco [n=jsgotang@121.97.250.93] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [i=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF [n=chris@123-243-65-41.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:02] hmm ok [02:05] ryanakca: you've updated your package list (apt-get update)? === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:12] anyone noticed any changes that might break notify-send? === tupa [n=tupa@201-167-108-67-cable.cybercable.net.mx] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xeruno [n=xeruno@cable201-233-40-134.epm.net.co] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:22] nixternal: can't say that i have. in what way is it broken? seems ok to me [02:27] it isn't sending anything === [GruncH] [n=gruncho@190-76-12-110.dyn.movilnet.com.ve] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:32] nixternal: i'm tempted to say check your dbus is working properly but its not based on any logic [02:33] hrmm...could be..I will take a look..thank god I know absolutely nothing about dbus ;p [02:33] :) === Gazer [n=gazer@200.68.69.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:41] AndyP: yes [02:42] nixternal: works here... === mwolson is now known as bigmike160 === bigmike160 is now known as reallytestbot === reallytestbot is now known as mwolson === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:55] good night folks [02:55] Night AndyP. === alex-weej [n=alex@dyn1242-199.vpn.ic.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-210-186.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === grimboy_uk [n=grimboy@85-211-243-223.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:27] gtk+2.0 update broke the notification daemon === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [n=ryan@d235-228-172.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === grimboy [n=grimboy@85-211-244-71.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:33] Any MOTUs around willing to give a hand with the sponsors queue? === xeruno [n=xeruno@cable201-233-40-134.epm.net.co] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Abandonando"] === DreamThief [n=mathias@gateway.3vilh4x0r.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === wasabi [n=wasabi@ubuntu/member/wasabi] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === neh [n=neh@S01060016b619a773.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-motu === neh [n=neh@S01060016b619a773.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-3ca2bd7824328a4c] has joined #ubuntu-motu === luis_lopez [n=luis@ip216-239-82-10.vif.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:23] If there is anybody around who has an amd64 system with either a gutsy sbuild or builder setup, could you please look at bug 127524 and download the source package from sid, apply the debdiff, and build it? Could you also send me a copy of the build log please. Thanks in advance. [04:23] Launchpad bug 127524 in spandsp "Merge spandsp 0.0.4~pre3 (universe) from Debian (unstable)" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127524 [04:24] ok [04:24] Its an amd64 merge, and without having access to a box, I can't easily determine whether its a merge or a sync... [04:25] ajmitch: Thanks. [04:26] give me a few minutes to get pbuilder updated [04:26] ajmitch: Sure. === ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:26] Take your time. === beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:32] What's happening with ubuntuwire? I thought this was precisely the use-case for it? [04:33] Afaik there is no amd64 box yet. [04:33] I'd gladly use it if there was. [04:33] Or i386 box, since it's still offline. [04:34] I note that debdiff is my work, and it seems I forgot to turn off DH_VERBOSE [04:35] StevenK: I was wondering where that was from. I'll turn it off it comes to being a merge [04:36] TheMuso: Thanks. [04:36] I still think that is a nasty hack, but I can't see any other way to do it. [04:36] StevenK: aye. === StevenK runs off to the doctors, followed by something for lunch. === shin [n=sunny@76.24.1.152] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TheMuso grumbles at people not putting descriptions in their dpatch files. === nairoV [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tru_`z24 [n=truz_`24@74-129-166-232.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ScottK grumbles at people doing the SRU before Gutsy is fixed. === shin [n=sunny@76.24.1.152] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sommer [n=sommer@192.154.64.85] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:19] ajmitch: How did that build go? === ajmitch shrugs [05:19] haven't checked [05:20] cp -a ./debian/tmp/usr/lib64/libspandsp.so.0 debian/libspandsp3//usr/lib64/ [05:20] cp: cannot stat `./debian/tmp/usr/lib64/libspandsp.so.0': No such file or directory [05:20] dh_install: command returned error code 256 [05:23] ah ok. Thats with the debdiff applied right? [05:23] yes [05:24] Ok, thanks. === rbrito [n=rbrito@201.76.27.2] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:24] Hi. [05:24] I have some programs that I've packaged for Debian. [05:25] I would like to contribute them to Ubuntu. === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:26] How should I proceed? [05:28] rbrito: Are they in Debian already? [05:29] TheMuso, one of them is, with a new upstream version. It's vrms. [05:29] The other two aren't. [05:29] They are available at mentors.debian.net [05:30] rbrito: Is the new upstream release in Debian? I can see vrms in gutsy, version 1.12-0.1. [05:31] TheMuso, yes, version 1.13. === twanj [n=chatzill@c-75-74-146-27.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:32] Please, update it. [05:32] rbrito: Ok. Is there a reason why that doesn't have a Debian revision number? === LucidFox [n=LucidFox@wikia/Sikon] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:32] YAY [05:32] man [05:32] i am happy [05:33] TheMuso, that's a native package. [05:33] only time will tell [05:33] rbrito: Ah yes, just read the description. [05:33] You can grab the sources from packages.qa.debian.org [05:33] rbrito: Ok, I'll file a sync request for it. [05:33] Please, do. [05:34] If you find that you need patches for it, please let me know. [05:34] hello all [05:38] rbrito: Shouldn't be a problem. The version in Gutsy built fine, but I'm double checking now. [05:38] TheMuso, thank you very much. === mwolson [i=mwolson@jpi-wlafyte-212-116.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:39] Now, I just have to have the bugs with Ubuntu chased on my hardware. :-( [05:40] rbrito: Looks fine, I've just filed a sync request. [05:40] I currently have two, but it seems that the responses have been slow... [05:40] Now what was the other package? [05:40] TheMuso, Thanks. [05:40] One package to provide mkfs and fsck for powerpc 32 and i386. [05:41] I am referring to the ones not in Debian yet [05:41] !revu | rbrito [05:41] rbrito: REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU [05:41] Exatly. [05:41] You can use revu to help get your packages into Ubuntu, if you think they will be a while getting into Debian. [05:42] Hummm... I can look into that... [05:42] Getting into Debian would be preferable of course. [05:42] Of course. [05:42] But as I said, if that may take a while, the revu process can see them into Ubuntu. [05:42] I'm applying for being a Debian Developer... [05:42] Great to hear. [05:43] So, the bureacracy would be quite smaller than it is today, with sponsorhips and all that stuff. [05:44] If you are referring to revu and Ubuntu, there is only the issue of two MOTUs looking at it to give their approval, and uploading. [05:45] WHich itself can take time, but we set asside days where we focus on getting packages from revu into Ubuntu. [05:46] TheMuso: When is the next REVU day? [05:47] TheMuso, no, I'm referring to the slowness of Debian, unfortunately. :-( [05:47] rbrito: Ah right. [05:47] porthose: Not sure. I think we have just had one, yesterday in fact. [05:48] The Muso: k thxs [05:49] One question: [05:49] !ask | rbrito [05:49] rbrito: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [05:49] What would be a way to detect if I am running on a big-endian or a little endian machine from a configure script? [05:49] Is there any quick and clean recipe for that? [05:50] The program that I'm packaging has a configure script. [05:50] I'll have to let the experienced coders answer that one. [05:50] Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with autotools... :-( [05:50] Well I am not that experienced a coder. [05:51] TheMuso, thanks anyway. [05:51] np [05:56] TheMuso: I knocked the sponsorship queue down a bit. [05:56] Good night all. [05:59] ScottK: Night [06:02] Well, I'm going now. [06:02] Cya. [06:02] <_MMA_> Hey guys. All the way back in Hoary there was a package in Universe called: "xfce4-taskbar-plugin" Anyone know where that has gone to? Its obviously still around because Xubuntu uses it but its pulled into something else now. [06:06] <_MMA_> nm. I found it now. (after looking for a hour) ;) === StevenK appears [06:09] TheMuso: I daresay spandsp can be synced. I can look into it if you like. [06:10] StevenK: If you're offering. I don't have easy access to an amd64, and according to ajmitch, the applied debdiff package FTBFS anyway. [06:11] TheMuso: Yeah, I saw that, which makes me think its been fixed upstream. [06:12] StevenK: aye. I left a note in the bug asking for the filer to check it out, so its up to you. [06:12] i have an amd64 gutsy VM, not sure if i could help [06:12] DO you want me to close the bug, or do you want to work with the filer, or just do it yourself? [06:13] TheMuso: The latter. If it can be sync'd, I'll file it and close the bug, otherwise I'll ... do something. [06:13] StevenK: Ok, thanks a lot. [06:16] I'd like to know where the filer got his sources from. [06:16] Yeah. [06:16] 0.0.4~pre3-2 isn't on ftp.d.o [06:16] it isn't? [06:16] StevenK: I was able to fetch from the Debian internode mirror that I use. === ajmitch was able to fetch it, patch & build it [06:17] It doesn't appear in http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/spandsp/ [06:18] it appears on http.us.d.o though [06:18] And it's on mirror.pacific.net.au. Way cool. [06:18] special [06:18] Note to self: ftp.d.o is currently crap [06:19] heh [06:21] Yup. Fixed upstream, which will install into /usr/lib64 directly. === StevenK testbuilds === RAOF [n=chris@123-243-65-41.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:25] And it doesn't end up in /usr/lib64. Naughty. [06:26] So it should? === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK tries to find the bug he fixed. [06:29] Ah. No bug, it just FTBFS on amd64. [06:29] ah right. [06:29] And it doesn't anymore. === sharms [n=sharms@ubuntu/member/sharms] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imtheface [i=imthefac@ubuntu/member/imtheface] has joined #ubuntu-motu === opopanax [n=steve@unaffiliated/opopanaxgentoo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:43] hey all [06:43] i'm trying to build a package, and i used an old package as a template. so, of course, after successful build, the .debs created have the wrong filename. where is that controlled? [06:44] debian/control [06:44] and feel free to tell me i'm in the wrong place. [06:44] StevenK, that's my name. [06:44] he [06:44] TheMuso: Bug 127524 updated and marked Invalid [06:44] Launchpad bug 127524 in spandsp "Merge spandsp 0.0.4~pre3 (universe) from Debian (unstable)" [Wishlist,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127524 [06:44] StevenK: Thanks a lot. === BaD_CrC [n=ns@c-71-231-214-232.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:46] opopanax: I'd suggest you read Chapter 5 of the Debian Policy manual - http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html [06:46] StevenK, right on, thanks. === jsgotangco [n=jsgotang@121.97.250.93] has joined #ubuntu-motu === luis__lopez [n=luis@ip216-239-79-149.vif.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:53] ...the original debian source didn't have a version line either... [07:01] The version is specified in debian/changelog, not debian/control === azeem_ [n=mbanck@ppp-88-217-34-109.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:06] StevenK, i just figured that out; thanks! :-) [07:06] rebuilding the whole thing, just for grins [07:07] building gnucash 2.2.0, just to try it. === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkibras1-ff55c300-121.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:08] got it built with hbci support, and am starting to get a handle on how debian builds stuff [07:08] thanks for pointing me to that resource; it will be helpful next semester. [07:09] I'm Steven Ketelsen, you'll prolly see me around. === Dessan [n=andrew@ip68-105-63-168.pn.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === opopanax [n=steve@unaffiliated/opopanaxgentoo] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === micahcowan [n=micah@ubuntu/member/micahcowan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === brylie [n=brylie@CPE-75-81-100-187.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Simon80 [n=Simon80@CPE00e098558963-CM000a7363ecf6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pgquiles [n=pgquiles@62.43.226.52.static.user.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apachelogger [n=me@N738P022.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-150-228.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:56] oka wow... i just installed ubuntu-desktop on my gutsy laptop... and wow === ivoks [n=ivoks@83-131-95-96.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:01] No more xfce for you? :) === vil [n=lada@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:07] RAOF: ?? [09:09] TheMuso: ?? [09:09] TheMuso: Hey :) [09:10] RAOF: Hi. Your question... WHat do you mean [09:10] Oh, that was in reference to jmg discovering the joys of ubuntu-desktop [09:11] Oh. [09:12] AFAIK, he was using xfce. And gnome is awesome :) [09:13] ah ok === Baby [n=miry@195.37.62.208] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apachelogger_ [n=me@N892P018.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === CrummyGummy [n=CrummyGu@dsl-242-25-34.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === never|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _16aR_ [n=dolanor@unaffiliated/16ar/x-367395] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-217-41.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tsmithe [n=toby@ubuntu/member/tsmithe] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gasten [n=Gasten@h52n9c1o1095.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asisak [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sindwiller [n=sindwill@84-75-101-114.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-MOTU === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Dessan [n=andrew@ip68-105-63-168.pn.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asisak [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee waves [10:23] hey Hobbsee [10:24] :) === sahin_w [n=KT@210.216.53.194] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:37] please delete my gtkmm2.4 revu upload (it has been broken) === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:41] please delete my g{lib,tk}mm2.4 revu upload (it has been broken) [10:41] both of them :( [10:41] cleared [10:42] thanks === coNP_ [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === guardian [n=Guardian@mar44-1-87-90-32-28.dsl.club-internet.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:46] hello [10:55] please kill glibmm2.4 again === asisak suffers from serious DSL problems [11:00] ajmitch, Hobbsee please delete my prev. broken glibmm upload [11:01] asisak: done [11:01] thanks [11:01] Btw, is dcut dangerous? Or some other reason it does not work? [11:03] asisak: afaik its not implemented in REVU [11:12] is this possible from a single source package, to build several shared library packages ??? which package type should i choose then ? multiple-binary or library ? [11:13] guardian: its possible, just choose one type, you need to edit debian/control anyway [11:13] the question is: which type ? :) [11:13] guardian: doesnt really matte [11:13] ok [11:13] the only difference is the default naming of the package [11:14] ok [11:14] and you need to fix this in debian/control anyway [11:14] i'm having hard times understanding everything :) === man-di mostly uses type cdbs [11:14] yesterday was autoconf,automake,libtool + start learning debian packages [11:14] guardian: packaging is not easy === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:23] Hi, Hobbsee [11:24] Hobbsee, could you delete please supertuxkart_0.3-0ubuntu1.dsc ? [11:24] I'm at home and would like to try the upload here, with another internet connection === asisak [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has left #ubuntu-motu ["c-x] === asisak [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:27] What do you think about implementing either dcut or some dput resume feature of REVU? [11:32] asisak, i think it's a must be feature, but i think it's better you write this to the motu list === Tonio_ [n=tonio@194.3.40.161] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:33] s/must be/must have/ [11:34] siretart, around? === cassidy [n=cassidy@44.201-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:36] raphink, around? [11:36] jwendell: sort of [11:36] yep [11:36] hi jwendell [11:36] Hi [11:36] asisak: good idea! please send patches to me [11:36] could you delete please supertuxkart_0.3-0ubuntu1.dsc ? [11:36] sure [11:36] siretart: where can I find the source of revu [11:37] done [11:37] siretart, thanks [11:37] asisak: https://code.launchpad.net/~revu-hackers [11:37] ah you were too fast for me siretart ;) [11:37] thanks, siretart [11:37] oh, hi raphink :) [11:37] hi siretart :) === Tonio_ [n=tonio@194.3.40.161] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:41] ok, whiteboard of revu branch updated [11:41] raphink: if you (or some other motu) notice people asking about new features of revu, please point them here: https://code.launchpad.net/~revu-hackers/revu/trunk [11:42] alright [11:42] :) [11:46] ajmitch: Do you think bug 65344 can be killed? [11:46] Launchpad bug 65344 in zope-quotafolder "[UNMETDEPS] zope-quotafolder has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65344 === norsetto [n=norsetto@host91-239-dynamic.21-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:15] morning === norsetto [n=norsetto@host91-239-dynamic.21-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:26] morning all === jekil [n=alessand@host228-234-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bigon [i=bigon@imladris.bigon.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@88.195.85.121] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dharrigan [n=david@host12.williamhill.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === luisbg [n=luisbg@131.Red-88-17-123.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@83-131-95-96.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pascal80 [n=Pascal@86-39-13-216.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@75.Red-80-59-227.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asac [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-237-96.bredband.comhem.se] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ScottK [n=ScottK@ubuntu/member/scottk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === eagles0513875 [n=jonathan@88.203.73.158] has joined #ubuntu-motu === allee [n=ach@lapex-mcallee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@0x555373ab.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TomaszD [n=tom@unaffiliated/tomaszd] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lmr__ [n=lmr@32.104.18.240] has joined #ubuntu-motu === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apachelogger [n=me@N892P018.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ScottK2 [n=ScottK@ubuntu/member/scottk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:07] HI, Hobbsee. Around? [02:07] jwendell: heya [02:08] jwendell: better to ask in the channel, instead of poke a specific person for a removal, particularly if they're marked away [02:08] actually, whether i'm around depends what it's for :P [02:08] Hobbsee, i'm on another internet connection, and would like try to upload again [02:08] could you delete supertuxkart_0.3-0ubuntu1.dsc ? [02:09] done [02:09] Hobbsee, i pingged you this morning, but you were not marked as away. Sorry :) [02:09] and thanks again [02:09] i thought i put the away thing in. weird. [02:09] no problem [02:12] Hobbsee, wow, i managed! finally [02:12] hehe [02:12] yay! === asisak congrats jwendell [02:12] :) [02:13] Hobbsee, i guess you're busy to review it, right? === Hobbsee is not a MOTU nor a core dev, if it comes to reviewing new packages. [02:13] oh wait, supertuxkart is not technically a new package. [02:14] Hobbsee, it's not new === Hobbsee has played it before : [02:14] ) [02:14] new version (prior was 0.2) [02:14] hehe [02:14] my son too === StevenK hasn't [02:15] my son is already playing with this 0.3 version i've packaged [02:15] wow [02:15] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6162 [02:16] there is a comment from Spetember 18 already there, but it's not about me (i guess...) === alex-weej [n=alex@cpc2-darl3-0-0-cust237.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === statik [n=emurphy@canonical/launchpad/statik] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] === zul__ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:23] Well hopefully that's enough network breakage for today... [02:23] Good morning all. [02:24] morning ;) [02:24] hey ScottK again [02:25] could someone please review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6162 ? it's a new version of supertuxkart [02:29] Anyone up for an easy test for feisty-proposed? [02:30] It's Bug #118771. All you have to do is install it from feisty-proposed and if you don't get an error, comment in the bug that it works for me. [02:30] Launchpad bug 118771 in Ubuntu Feisty "Syntax error in python module" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118771 === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:32] Heya folks. === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:39] Hi, TheMuso === xxxxx1 [n=xxxxx1@201.64.79.214] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:40] morning all! === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:41] hi xxxxx1 === bueroman [n=setanta@200.184.118.132] has joined #ubuntu-motu === eagles0513875 [n=jonathan@88.203.73.158] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o Hobbsee] by ChanServ === vbabiy [n=vbabiy@pool-71-164-85-238.albyny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === radhios [n=radhios@96-208-126-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:58] can somebody review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6124 [03:09] fernando, i'm waiting too :) [03:09] hey jwendell [03:14] fernando: That package is already in the archive... Can I assume its an update? [03:16] TheMuso, yes, you can assume a update [03:16] fernando: Ok. === hroo772 [n=hroo772@63.210.44.7] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:19] TheMuso, when you finish, could you review mine? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6162 [03:19] TheMuso, it's an update too [03:19] jwendell: Ok thanks. [03:19] thank you [03:30] anyone else seeing that feisty repos are down? i tried us uk gb and de none seems to work === mode/#ubuntu-motu [-o Hobbsee] by ChanServ === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:47] fernando: I got a lintian warning on the source package about having the wrong FSF address in copyright file. Since you have made a lot of changes for this new vresion, you may as well fix that up. [03:47] version [03:48] TheMuso, not is better wait debian to fix this? [03:48] create a patch to fix the fsf address/ [03:48] ? [03:48] fernando: It needs fixing in debian/copyright. [03:49] TheMuso, ok, fixing [03:49] Well in that case, why not just get the new package version uploaded to Debian? [03:49] Means less work for Ubuntu in the longrun. [03:50] TheMuso, debian version is 0.52-2 too [03:51] fernando: I know. [03:51] fernando: I have also left some other lintian messages on revu as a comment. === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:52] TheMuso, thank you === tsmithe learnt a while ago that he needed to get as many lintian messages fixed as possible before uploading to review [03:53] tsmithe: Hey there. I have left a comment ages ago on revu for alsa-firmware. If you could fix that up, we can get that in quite quickly. [03:53] I've been meaning to email you about it, but haven't got around to it [03:55] well, yes. i'm still thinking about getting it into linux-restricted-modules, though. but i'm not sure about the process, and i haven't had much time to learn. i guess i better get the package uploaded, and then try going about getting it nearer the kernel [03:55] also, i think _MMA_ was wondering about ubuntustudio-default-settings === DarkSun88 [n=Ma@ubuntu/member/darksun88] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:55] Hi all [03:55] tsmithe: Yeah, there are a few too many dirty hacks in that, and it would be nice to push some of that elsewhere, like limits.conf/rtprio. [03:55] Hey DarkSun88. [03:56] TheMuso, ahh ok [03:56] Hi TheMuso [03:56] :) [03:56] TheMuso: Great work. Thanks. [03:56] DarkSun88: Thank you. [03:56] TheMuso, do you feel like reviewing another package? [03:57] LucidFox: I am doing jwendell's now, and then I'll be going to bed I'm affraid. [03:57] ah, all right [03:58] <_MMA_> TheMuso: Still waiting for that thread to get bumped. ;) [03:59] _MMA_, maybe you should do so? [03:59] _MMA_: I don't know what to say, seriously. I don't know where a better place for it to be set is. [03:59] <_MMA_> I just need someone to comment. Even if its a "I like this idea" reply. === Steck [n=Steck@c-24-12-49-58.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:01] _MMA_: ok. [04:01] jwendell: Please check the source package. I got a couple of lintian warnings you may want to look into. [04:01] _MMA_: I'll reply to the thread now. [04:01] And then folks, I'm off to bed. [04:01] <_MMA_> ok [04:02] TheMuso, should we use linda or lintian? because linda returned none [04:03] jwendell: both [04:03] jwendell: both return different warnings/error [04:04] ok, thanks === jikanter [n=jordan@Leapfrog-Online-1143628.cust-rtr.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === norsetto [n=norsetto@host46-217-dynamic.3-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:06] TheMuso, when i fix it, and upload, will it upload entire orig.tar.gz? [04:07] jwendell: To revu, no. [04:07] could someone have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/127919 [04:07] Launchpad bug 127919 in libtelepathy ".shlibs version must be increased" [Undecided,New] [04:07] Night folks. [04:09] what does that mean: [04:09] W: supertuxkart source: substvar-source-version-is-deprecated supertuxkart [04:09] bye luke [04:09] jwendell: read http://wiki.debian.org/binNMU [04:09] jwendell: its about ${Source-Version} being deprecated [04:09] jwendell: lintian -i .. tells you more [04:09] oh, ${Source-Version} is depreciated now? [04:10] what gets used instead? [04:10] Hobbsee: in Debian at least [04:10] please archive my glade-3 upload === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:10] Hobbsee: ${source:Version} and ${binary:Version} [04:10] Hobbsee: its because Debian allows binary NMUs now [04:10] man-di: oh right. i thought you meant the entire functionality, not a change in syntax [04:11] Hobbsee: that means mostly a simple rebuild on one arch [04:11] what, where the binary version can be different to the source? [04:11] Hobbsee: source version 1.2-3 [04:11] Hobbsee: binary version 1.2-3 or 1.2-3+b1 or 1.2-3 or 1.2-3+b2 [04:12] Hobbsee: read http://wiki.debian.org/binNMU for more infos [04:12] thanks, looking === vil [n=lada@ubuntu/member/vil] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === RainCT [n=RainCT@unaffiliated/rainct] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:17] dput is telling that package is already uploaded. Should i use -f flag? [04:17] yes [04:17] or remove the .upload [04:18] oh, it'll upload entire orig.tar.gz again :( [04:18] we need a resume option [04:18] for REVU, yes [04:18] not sure this is located in revu-hackers, however [04:18] No, you need to get your packages right the first time :P [04:18] I guess it is more of a dput issue [04:18] coNP: upload via rsync should be possible [04:19] Fujitsu: it is not about bad packages but bad DSL connections... [04:19] orig.tar.gaz has not changed since last upload... [04:19] coNP: but probably not implemented yet === coNP wants some option to do resume [04:19] jwendell: REVU doesnt store orig.tar.gz [04:19]