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| ogra | lmveloso, hey, sorry for being so unresponsive, can you mail me the links ? | 01:25 |
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| ogra | (this month is just insane for me) | 01:25 |
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| lmveloso | ogra, np oliver! I understand. | 01:26 |
| lmveloso | wich is your email? | 01:27 |
| lmveloso | pvt /me | 01:27 |
| ogra | ogra@ubuntu.com | 01:27 |
| ogra | (no need to hide that ;) ) | 01:27 |
| lmveloso | :) Ok! | 01:27 |
| lmveloso | I can share the doc with you but you will need a google account to look and edit it! | 01:28 |
| lmveloso | I'm sending it right now. | 01:28 |
| ogra | i have one | 01:28 |
| ogra | cool | 01:28 |
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| lmveloso | ogra, mail sent. | 01:31 |
| ogra | thanks :) | 01:32 |
| lmveloso | I'm behind my original schedule but now I'm still confident I can meet the program deadline. | 01:33 |
| lmveloso | Now I'm developing the Sniffer GUI and there is some security issues needing your advice. :-) So, take a look and ask me anything you want to know. | 01:35 |
| lmveloso | ogra, You can also edit or comment the doc I sent you. Write down there anything you want. | 01:37 |
| lmveloso | By the way, thank you for answering me. | 01:40 |
| ogra | well, really sorry for doing that so late | 01:43 |
| ogra | but there was also some confusion about the mentorship ... | 01:43 |
| lmveloso | Yes, I noticed that but we still have time to handle the project. | 01:44 |
| lmveloso | Rodrigo Pereira was mentoring me | 01:44 |
| lmveloso | but now he is a Google employee | 01:45 |
| ogra | what about using dbus for the front/backend communication ? | 01:45 |
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| lmveloso | and I believe you can improve the project. | 01:46 |
| lmveloso | well.. | 01:46 |
| lmveloso | I didn't think about dbus because I was trying to solve the remote monitoring feature | 01:47 |
| lmveloso | so I decided to add a regular IPC instead of threads or dbus. | 01:48 |
| ogra | ah, k | 01:49 |
| lmveloso | For local communication we can use dbus, but we will need to rewrite the communication in the future. | 01:49 |
| lmveloso | Pyro is very interesting but potentially insecure (as raw sockets), so if we are really going to keep it we'll need to use openssh + password IMHO. | 01:52 |
| lmveloso | ogra, think about the architecture and fell free to suggest me anything. | 01:53 |
| ogra | i will, using IPC makes more sense, you are right | 01:54 |
| lmveloso | I was solving all the problems by myself and there might be better ways of doing it. | 01:54 |
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| lmveloso | ogra, Wich way do you prefer to keeping in touch ? | 01:59 |
| lmveloso | mail, irc, shared doc, blog? | 01:59 |
| lmveloso | :-) | 01:59 |
| ogra | IRC is fine but note that i fly out very early tomorrow and wont be available before the weekend then, so for such phases mail is better | 02:00 |
| ogra | (i hope my travelling will be done then and i'm available until realease) | 02:00 |
| lmveloso | k | 02:01 |
| lmveloso | it seems there is a lot of coding sprints lately | 02:02 |
| lmveloso | Well, I'll keep you up to date with every progress I make | 02:02 |
| ogra | well, this here is rather a business thing | 02:02 |
| ogra | two weeks ago was the distro sprint | 02:03 |
| ogra | in between the two i got ill ... (still not fixed yet) | 02:03 |
| lmveloso | RichEd told me, and how is your tooth ? :-) | 02:04 |
| lmveloso | sorry.. I didn't notice the '(...)' | 02:05 |
| ogra | the tooth itself is fine, but there seems to be another infection as well ... will need to see the doc next week .... | 02:05 |
| ogra | i'm not really well atm | 02:05 |
| ogra | we seem to have to leave here ... | 02:06 |
| lmveloso | so bad.. | 02:07 |
| lmveloso | I'll see my dentist soon, I hope it will be just a check up. | 02:07 |
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| lmveloso | ogra, nice to meet you! | 02:07 |
| lmveloso | Take care! | 02:07 |
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| sbalneav | Evening all | 03:36 |
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| effie_jayx | sbalneav, :D | 05:04 |
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| sbalneav | Whoo hoo!!! | 06:11 |
| sbalneav | New LDM handles password expiry!!! | 06:11 |
| sbalneav | Now we're cooking with gas | 06:11 |
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| LaserJock | anybody around who can help with some testing? | 06:12 |
| sbalneav | memememememememe | 06:13 |
| sbalneav | What's up? | 06:13 |
| sbalneav | Hey!!! Just got password expiry going in the new ldm!!! | 06:13 |
| sbalneav | \o/ | 06:13 |
| sbalneav | Totally pro. | 06:13 |
| LaserJock | sweet | 06:13 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: what are you running? | 06:13 |
| sbalneav | guuuuuutsy | 06:14 |
| LaserJock | did you dist-upgrade today? | 06:14 |
| sbalneav | Hmm, well, I ran update manager. | 06:14 |
| LaserJock | so did you get a new gcompris? | 06:14 |
| sbalneav | root@edubuntu:~# apt-get dist-upgrade | 06:14 |
| sbalneav | Reading package lists... Done | 06:14 |
| sbalneav | Building dependency tree | 06:14 |
| sbalneav | Reading state information... Done | 06:14 |
| sbalneav | Calculating upgrade... Done | 06:14 |
| sbalneav | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. | 06:14 |
| sbalneav | mustve | 06:14 |
| sbalneav | What would you like me to test | 06:15 |
| LaserJock | well, I need to test gcompris *without* tuxpaint | 06:15 |
| LaserJock | with the latest version I merged I moved tuxpaint from Suggests to Depends | 06:16 |
| sbalneav | so apt-get remove tuxpaint? | 06:17 |
| LaserJock | hmm, well it might want to take out gcompris with it | 06:17 |
| sbalneav | Lets see | 06:17 |
| sbalneav | Hmm, I don't appear to have it | 06:18 |
| sbalneav | oh | 06:18 |
| sbalneav | don't appear to have gcompris either!!! | 06:18 |
| sbalneav | lol | 06:18 |
| sbalneav | Durn, do I gotta download the edu cd? | 06:19 |
| LaserJock | good! | 06:19 |
| sbalneav | or just install gcompris? | 06:19 |
| LaserJock | do you have a good connection? | 06:19 |
| sbalneav | not bad, cable modem | 06:20 |
| sbalneav | ohh, name change to childsplay? | 06:20 |
| sbalneav | hmm no | 06:20 |
| LaserJock | well, I'd like you to download an older version of gcompris from Launchpad | 06:21 |
| LaserJock | you on i386? | 06:21 |
| sbalneav | hmm, gcompris still wants to install tuxpaint. | 06:21 |
| sbalneav | yes I am | 06:21 |
| sbalneav | point me to what you want downloaded | 06:22 |
| LaserJock | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/7919916/gcompris_8.3.1-3ubuntu1_i386.deb | 06:24 |
| LaserJock | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/7919915/gcompris-data_8.3.1-3ubuntu1_all.deb | 06:24 |
| sbalneav | hmm, what's a good way to resolve all dependencies? | 06:25 |
| sbalneav | dpkg -i lists a ton of stuff, just single step through the deps, apt-get installing them? | 06:26 |
| LaserJock | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/7919897/gcompris-sound-en_8.3.1-3ubuntu1_all.deb | 06:26 |
| LaserJock | do a dpkg -i on all three | 06:26 |
| LaserJock | then do a apt-get -f | 06:26 |
| sbalneav | Smart, you are | 06:27 |
| sbalneav | 21 % | 06:27 |
| sbalneav | 29% | 06:28 |
| LaserJock | yeah, it's a beast of a package | 06:28 |
| LaserJock | I can't believe ogra used to put it on one CD | 06:28 |
| sbalneav | Had to suck in his gut :) | 06:29 |
| LaserJock | good thing he's skinny | 06:29 |
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| sbalneav | 77% | 06:33 |
| sbalneav | apt-get -f? | 06:37 |
| LaserJock | sudo apt-get -f | 06:37 |
| LaserJock | it might be -f install | 06:38 |
| sbalneav | The following extra packages will be installed: | 06:39 |
| sbalneav | gcompris gcompris-data gcompris-sound-en libsdl-image1.2 libsdl-mixer1.2 | 06:39 |
| sbalneav | libsdl-ttf2.0-0 libsmpeg0 python-pysqlite2 tuxpaint tuxpaint-data | 06:39 |
| sbalneav | tuxpaint-stamps-default vorbis-tools | 06:39 |
| sbalneav | Suggested packages: | 06:39 |
| sbalneav | gnucap python-pysqlite2-dbg ttf-arphic-gbsn00lp ttf-arphic-uming ttf-baekmuk | 06:39 |
| sbalneav | ttf-thryomanes | 06:39 |
| sbalneav | Recommended packages: | 06:39 |
| sbalneav | tuxpaint-config | 06:39 |
| sbalneav | The following NEW packages will be installed: | 06:39 |
| sbalneav | libsdl-image1.2 libsdl-mixer1.2 libsdl-ttf2.0-0 libsmpeg0 python-pysqlite2 | 06:39 |
| sbalneav | tuxpaint tuxpaint-data tuxpaint-stamps-default vorbis-tools | 06:39 |
| sbalneav | The following packages will be upgraded: | 06:39 |
| sbalneav | gcompris gcompris-data gcompris-sound-en | 06:39 |
| sbalneav | Tuxpaint's still loading | 06:39 |
| LaserJock | argg | 06:39 |
| sbalneav | so, I did a dpkg -i *.deb | 06:39 |
| sbalneav | which didn't complete, due to deps | 06:39 |
| LaserJock | it's trying to dist-upgrade gcompris | 06:39 |
| sbalneav | and an apt-get -f install | 06:39 |
| sbalneav | I could just march through the deps manually? | 06:40 |
| LaserJock | ok, maybe just do apt-get install <add individual packages> | 06:40 |
| LaserJock | just leave out tuxpaint* | 06:40 |
| sbalneav | ok | 06:40 |
| LaserJock | so apt-get install libsdl-image1.2 libsdl-mixer1.2 libsdl-ttf2.0-0 libsmpeg0 python-pysqlite2 vorbis-tools | 06:41 |
| sbalneav | got it | 06:42 |
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| LaserJock | did gcompris install? | 06:43 |
| sbalneav | Yessir! | 06:43 |
| LaserJock | ok, so fire it up and go to the Amusements -> Tuxpaint | 06:43 |
| sbalneav | Cannot find tuxpaint | 06:44 |
| sbalneav | install it to use this activity | 06:44 |
| sbalneav | Then a plane crashes into a wall | 06:44 |
| LaserJock | but it returns you to gcompris ok | 06:44 |
| LaserJock | doesn't crash or hang? | 06:44 |
| sbalneav | It surely does | 06:44 |
| sbalneav | Nope | 06:44 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 06:44 |
| sbalneav | was it supposed to crash? | 06:45 |
| LaserJock | well, kinda yeah | 06:45 |
| sbalneav | Seems like it did the RIGHT thing | 06:45 |
| sbalneav | I'm in window mode | 06:45 |
| LaserJock | we had a bug on LP, and I was able to reproduce it a while ago | 06:45 |
| sbalneav | should I try in fullscreen? | 06:46 |
| LaserJock | you might, just for the heck of it | 06:46 |
| sbalneav | hmmm, how do I do that now.... | 06:46 |
| LaserJock | gcompris -f I think | 06:46 |
| sbalneav | ok | 06:46 |
| sbalneav | su - sbalneav | 06:47 |
| sbalneav | argh | 06:47 |
| sbalneav | blargh I'm ded | 06:47 |
| sbalneav | yeah, fullscreen dies horribly | 06:49 |
| LaserJock | oh really? | 06:49 |
| sbalneav | YA RLY | 06:49 |
| sbalneav | My video mode is hozded | 06:50 |
| sbalneav | Wonder if it works with the -x | 06:52 |
| sbalneav | two shakes | 06:52 |
| sbalneav | Yup, if you run it with -f -x, then it pauses for a sec, but then comes back | 06:53 |
| sbalneav | If you have problems starting GCompris in fullscreen, try the -x option to disable XF86VidMode | 06:54 |
| sbalneav | so I'd say there's some bugs in there opposite that. | 06:54 |
| sbalneav | Is gcompris in C or python? | 06:54 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 06:55 |
| LaserJock | I think both | 06:55 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: does -f mess up other apps in gcompris | 06:56 |
| sbalneav | Hmm, lemme check | 06:56 |
| sbalneav | Other things seem to work, from quick testing | 07:01 |
| sbalneav | LaserJock: still there? | 07:05 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 07:06 |
| sbalneav | I can't dig into it right now, as I'm pushing to get ldm2 done by new-feature cutoff date | 07:06 |
| LaserJock | no problem | 07:07 |
| sbalneav | but after mid-august I could spend a day poking at it if you'd like | 07:07 |
| LaserJock | I just moved tuxpaint from Suggests to a Depends | 07:07 |
| LaserJock | so I *know* it'll work | 07:07 |
| LaserJock | but it's intriguing to me as sometimes I've had it work and other installs not | 07:08 |
| sbalneav | heh | 07:08 |
| sbalneav | If running another app bombs because it's not there, based on the video mode | 07:08 |
| sbalneav | I'd say we have a misplaced pointer somewhere, leading to memory corruption. | 07:09 |
| sbalneav | strace or the like would show us what's going on | 07:09 |
| LaserJock | well, I've had it do it in windowed mode | 07:09 |
| LaserJock | and some people have reported it freeze, others a crash | 07:09 |
| sbalneav | I'd have to poke into it. | 07:10 |
| sbalneav | but I suspect a dangling pointer, or buffer overrun somewhere. | 07:10 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 07:10 |
| LaserJock | well, for now I think it was an ok idea to make it a depends | 07:10 |
| sbalneav | Solves the problem short term. | 07:11 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 07:11 |
| sbalneav | Leave the bug open, and poke me about it later | 07:11 |
| sbalneav | I'll use my gdb-fu on it. | 07:11 |
| sbalneav | You on central or mountain time? | 07:12 |
| LaserJock | pacific | 07:14 |
| LaserJock | oh heah, could you try installing tuxpaint real quick and retrying with -f | 07:15 |
| LaserJock | retrying gcompris that is | 07:15 |
| sbalneav | ok | 07:21 |
| sbalneav | eurgh | 07:25 |
| LaserJock | same thing? | 07:25 |
| sbalneav | that doesn't work either, full screen | 07:25 |
| LaserJock | yeah, that's what I figured | 07:25 |
| sbalneav | Problem appears to be the fullscreen stuff | 07:27 |
| sbalneav | Maybe it doesn't like the newer xorg | 07:27 |
| sbalneav | FWIW, tuxpaint itself works as expected in --fullscreen --800x600 | 07:28 |
| sbalneav | Well, 12:30 am here | 07:29 |
| sbalneav | I'm beat | 07:29 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 07:29 |
| sbalneav | I'm gonna head to bed. | 07:29 |
| LaserJock | thanks for the help | 07:29 |
| sbalneav | night | 07:29 |
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| NewToUbuntu | I recently installed edubuntu by downloading a CD labeled 'Edubuntu 7.04 i386 Bin-1' | 07:34 |
| NewToUbuntu | Whenever I try to download applications using Add/Remove, I get a window asking for a disk labeled 'Edubuntu 7.04_Feisty Fawn_Release i386 Binary-1 (20070415)' | 07:36 |
| LaserJock | ok | 07:36 |
| NewToUbuntu | I only have the above CD, and the same window keeps coming back up... | 07:36 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 07:37 |
| NewToUbuntu | what am I doing wrong? | 07:37 |
| LaserJock | what are you trying to install? | 07:37 |
| NewToUbuntu | just about any application gives me either a '....cannot be installed on your computer type (i386)', or the error above. | 07:37 |
| LaserJock | ohhhh | 07:37 |
| LaserJock | did you have an internet connection when you installed? | 07:38 |
| NewToUbuntu | Yes, and I'm running pretty much a garden variety intel Pentium 4 | 07:38 |
| LaserJock | ok, please pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list | 07:39 |
| LaserJock | !pastebin | 07:39 |
| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 07:39 |
| NewToUbuntu | ok .. just a sec | 07:40 |
| NewToUbuntu | ok - it should be there. got all the uncommented lines from the sources.list file. URL : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31209/ | 07:43 |
| LaserJock | ok, well I can see the problem | 07:44 |
| LaserJock | although I'm not sure why it doesn't like the CD | 07:44 |
| NewToUbuntu | and what's the immediate problem you see? | 07:45 |
| LaserJock | go to System -> Administration -> Software Sources | 07:45 |
| LaserJock | the problem is that for some reason you lost the Main repository | 07:45 |
| LaserJock | which is where most of the important packages are :-) | 07:46 |
| NewToUbuntu | great ... how do I correct it? | 07:47 |
| LaserJock | have you got it open? | 07:48 |
| NewToUbuntu | yes - sorry forgot to update! | 07:48 |
| LaserJock | you want to make sure the first option is clicked | 07:48 |
| LaserJock | the one that has (main) | 07:49 |
| NewToUbuntu | the 'canonical -supported Open Source Software' (main) ... | 07:49 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 07:49 |
| NewToUbuntu | it's downloading 39 packages | 07:49 |
| NewToUbuntu | Now, I'm trying to download 'Bluefish Editor', and I get the dreaded insert disk window ... | 07:50 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 07:51 |
| LaserJock | hmm, bluefish is in Universe | 07:52 |
| NewToUbuntu | not sure what that means or its significance ... | 07:52 |
| LaserJock | it's a different software repository | 07:52 |
| LaserJock | but it looks like it was enabled | 07:53 |
| NewToUbuntu | so if I select 'Supported Ubuntu applications', I should not see the error? | 07:53 |
| LaserJock | well, you probably wouldn't find bluefish if you did that | 07:53 |
| LaserJock | ok, here's something to try | 07:54 |
| NewToUbuntu | that's correct, but I could try e.g. Quanta Plus just for kicks | 07:54 |
| NewToUbuntu | all right... | 07:54 |
| LaserJock | go back into the Software Sources app | 07:54 |
| NewToUbuntu | i'm there | 07:55 |
| LaserJock | and go to the Third-Party Software tab | 07:55 |
| LaserJock | you should see that cdrom | 07:55 |
| NewToUbuntu | yes, there two identical lines, only the second one of which is check marked... | 07:55 |
| LaserJock | ok, uncheck them both | 07:55 |
| LaserJock | you might also want to go to the Updates tab | 07:56 |
| LaserJock | and make sure feisty-security and feisty-updates are checked | 07:56 |
| NewToUbuntu | Hmmm... the security and update are checked ... | 07:57 |
| NewToUbuntu | but when I try to uncheck the cdrom, it says the information about available software is out of date | 07:57 |
| NewToUbuntu | if I say reload...then it rechecks the cdrom! | 07:58 |
| NewToUbuntu | should I just click 'close'? | 07:58 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 07:58 |
| NewToUbuntu | oops .. never mind. operator error. the cdrom is now unchecked. | 07:59 |
| LaserJock | ok | 08:01 |
| LaserJock | did the reload go ok? | 08:01 |
| NewToUbuntu | Ah, that appears to do the trick! Except that now everytime I go to Add/Remove, it says the list of Available applications is out of date ... | 08:02 |
| NewToUbuntu | yep - bluefish is loaded and runs! | 08:03 |
| LaserJock | ok | 08:03 |
| LaserJock | well, I'm not sure how it got that way | 08:04 |
| LaserJock | sorry about that | 08:04 |
| LaserJock | but hopefully we got it ironed out ;-) | 08:04 |
| NewToUbuntu | Hein????? You just helped me out of a headache and you're apologizing? | 08:04 |
| NewToUbuntu | Thank you !!!!!! This is amazing. | 08:04 |
| NewToUbuntu | Good night. | 08:05 |
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| BLUG-fred | Hi guys! I'd like to report a bug (well check if it has been found yet or not..) that is specific to Edubuntu install. Where and how do I do that? | 12:10 |
| juliux | BLUG-fred, take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ | 12:16 |
| juliux | BLUG-fred, perhaps it is allready reported | 12:16 |
| BLUG-fred | thanks.. will do asap | 12:16 |
| BLUG-fred | no edubuntu project registered as project.. is it normal? | 12:25 |
| juliux | yes | 12:26 |
| BLUG-fred | mmm ok.. thanks | 12:28 |
| BLUG-fred | so who is responsible for the Install of edubuntu 'package'? | 12:28 |
| juliux | if you don't know the exact packagename then only report the bug | 12:30 |
| BLUG-fred | it's the installation app | 12:33 |
| BLUG-fred | well right.. i don't know the package | 12:33 |
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| === Topic for #edubuntu: Order: http://shipit.edubuntu.org || Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu || http://www.edubuntu.org | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki | MEETING: every Wednesday see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda | feisty (7.04) is released, see http://www.edubuntu.org/Download | help testing tribe3 candidates: https://isotesting.stgraber.org/isotesting/build/Edubuntu | ||
| === Topic (#edubuntu): set by ogra at Wed Jul 18 19:30:11 2007 | ||
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| teknopagan | Hiya, folks | 05:34 |
| teknopagan | Having some trouble with the DVD iso | 05:34 |
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| sbalneav | What's the trouble? | 05:38 |
| teknopagan | well, I donloaded the DVD image, which is 4.9GB | 05:38 |
| teknopagan | Thus I can't burn it to a regular DVD, and I don't have any dual-layer discs available | 05:38 |
| teknopagan | I tried opening the iso to look around inside, because the DVD is supposed to have images for Server and Desktop, but I'm not finding those images | 05:39 |
| teknopagan | I'm seeing 3 folders inside the iso, including "El torito boot", "ISO9660" and "Joliet level 3" | 05:40 |
| teknopagan | Inside ISO9660 there's what looks like a disc image, the same in Joliet level 3 - are those the images I'm looking for? | 05:41 |
| sbalneav | Well, you're a little beyond me. Modifying the image so that it will fit on a smaller disk isn't something I know how to do. | 05:41 |
| teknopagan | I'm not trying to modify the image - I'm trying to extract the individual images from inside the main one to burn them separately | 05:42 |
| sbalneav | Well, either way, I don't know :) | 05:44 |
| sbalneav | ogra's not around right now, he'd be the one to ask. | 05:44 |
| teknopagan | k | 05:44 |
| teknopagan | Another question I have, is it worth getting the 7.x images as far as feature enhancements go? Or should I just stick with the LTS version? | 05:46 |
| sbalneav | Are you interested in thin client support? | 05:46 |
| teknopagan | Yep | 05:47 |
| sbalneav | There's been a huge amount of improvement in thin client support since LTS, so I'd say go with feisty. | 05:47 |
| teknopagan | Sweet - actually, that DVD I was looking at is Gutsy | 05:47 |
| sbalneav | There'll be even bigger improvements for gutsy, I'm working on those now. | 05:47 |
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| Halca | Hey | 06:07 |
| Halca | Are there open development tasks | 06:07 |
| Halca | :) | 06:07 |
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