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Mr_Sonomaalright fellas how do i change my default desktop environment12:19
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NickPrestaMr_Sonoma, you wish to switch from KDE to Gnome/XFCE/fluxbox/etc?12:20
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Mr_Sonomayes i have Gnome,KDE,xfce all loaded. when when i loaded Gnome and XFCE it somehow changed the default from kde to XFCE so when i select default login under the witch session type screen it goes to XFCE no matter what the previous was....i'd like for the default selection to be KDE again.12:21
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NickPrestaMr_Sonoma, in the menu list (when you login) there should be an option for the different DEs.12:25
NickPrestaThe sessions list should present all installed window managers12:26
Mr_Sonomauh hu thats where im talking about, see the options are there KDE, Beryl, XFCE, Gnome, and Default, now selecting the one i want isnt the issue its when i choose the "default" selection. it chooses XFCE not really a big deal but it changed from KDE to XFCE during the install. there has to be a way to change that back i was wondering if you or anyone knew how.12:27
Mr_Sonomasee its just an oddity, im still sifting through google searches to see if i can find any info on it. but thought i'd ask in the mean time too.12:28
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arekanderuCould somebody help me? I'm looking for a paint program (Like MS Paint on Windows..) for my Kubuntu12:32
NickPrestaarekanderu, Krita is similar (it feels similar) but it much more powerful. Give it a try.12:33
Theoryarekanderu: kolourpaint ?12:33
Theorythat's probably the closest to ms paint12:33
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arekanderuNickPresta: How do I get Krita?12:33
arekanderuTheory: How do I get that?12:33
Theoryarekanderu: use adept to install it12:33
arekanderuTheory: Tyvm :)12:33
NickPrestaarekanderu, if you're used to using Adept, you can search for it (kolourpaint or krita) there. Otherwise, you can use the command line: sudo apt-get install krita12:34
arekanderuNickPresta: Ty alot man :D12:34
mnemonicE2Why kubuntu is less stable than ubuntu and nagg me with many error messages ??12:34
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neusoncewhats the command to navigate to a directory .....?12:34
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX12:34
mnemonicE2I repeat : Why kubuntu is less stable than ubuntu and nagg me with many error messages ??12:35
runleveltenneusonce: cd12:36
ekrengeldoes anyone have vnc configured correctly?  I need some help setting it up...12:36
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NickPrestamnemonicE2, what problems are you having? My Kubuntu installation has yet to "nagg me with many error messages".12:37
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mnemonicE2i don't find the same quality of ubuntu12:39
neusoncegrrrr im trying to navigate to a folder in desktop .....im sleep deprived and  wont get to sleep untill iv finished this12:39
mnemonicE2I starting the system i find some errors12:40
mnemonicE2but I don't remember them now12:40
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imslow3ranyone want to help me with my bluetooth keyboard look at my new thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=50884712:40
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neusoncewhere are you agent 137, only you can hlep me in my noobness12:41
mnemonicE2and sometime all the system hang up12:41
mnemonicE2KDE error !12:41
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NickPrestaThere is something very strange about the xfce4 package. *sigh*12:47
persen_wow, where are the standard linux games?12:47
persen_aint they included in feisty?12:47
NickPrestapersen, what do you mean?12:47
crimsunwhat's strange about the xfce4 binary package?12:48
NickPrestapersen, there is the 'kdegames' package which includes all standard kde games12:48
persen_but it aint included by default? thats good12:48
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BluesKajpersen_, no one has to install it12:49
NickPrestacrimsun, for some reason, it never works for me. I install the xfce4 meta-package and I logout. i select XFCE from my sessions menu and the login hangs. I switch to terminal and kill the session and start kdm. all is well.i use beryl + xgl and I switch to XFCE and suddenly no applications will open. I switch back to KDE/Beryl and applications start.12:49
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BluesKajerr sorry persen_ you have to install kdegames12:50
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crimsunxfce4 is deprecated; you shouldn't be using it.12:50
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NickPrestacrimsun, really? I searched for "xfce desktop" and that was the only 'package' that came up. I assume I should be using the xubuntu-desktop metapackage, correct?12:51
neusonceKnaptic Package Manager  where can i find this ?12:52
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crimsunNickPresta: that's bad kdm/gdm interaction, not Xfce's IIRC12:54
NickPrestacrimsun, okay. What do you suggest? I want XFCE but I don't want the xubuntu-desktop. I don't need all the extra applications and I don't want to filter them out after the install.12:55
crimsunjust use kdm normall.12:55
crimsundpkg-reconfigure kdm12:55
crimsun(or dpkg-reconfigure gdm, and just select kdm)12:56
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BluesKajneusonce, do you mean synaptic?12:56
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elite101hey if  i burn a ISO to a cd that already has files to it that are non boot will the cd still boot up? for dsl12:57
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rogue780how do I access the restricted driver manager in kubuntu?12:58
elite101even thou it has some notepad files and stuff12:58
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DragnslcrI don't think you can burn an iso image to a disc that isn't blank12:59
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:59
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vzduchrogue780: Alt-F2  kdesu restricted-manager01:01
neusoncewhere can i find Knaptic Package Manager ?01:01
neusoncei looked01:01
neusonceand i can not find01:01
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:02
elite101how do i burn an iso just copy it to the cd drive and write files (using xp to do this)01:02
NickPrestarogue780, `sudo restricted-manager`01:02
NickPrestarogue780, if you dont have it installed, `sudo apt-get install restricted-manager`01:02
Biovoreelite101: iso is a disk image.. it contains the filesystem for the CD.. you burn it as an image..01:02
vzduchneusonce: kynaptic is nowhere to be found01:02
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jazzrabbitExcuse me. I Have a problem with beryl... i don't know how can i restore de defaults option's because i don't have the windows borders. Sorry for my english01:03
rogue780NickPresta,  thanks01:03
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neusoncei need to get to synaptic manger for kubuntu01:03
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BluesKajknaptic is old school pkg management , basically replaced by adept in kde01:03
jazzrabbiti Speak spanish, i try to speak with the people conected in the spanish channel but no one answer to me01:03
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NickPrestaneusonce, `sudo apt-get install synaptic`01:03
elite101i know what an iso is i just wondering i burn the iso to cd01:03
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vzduchneusonce: then install synaptic01:04
Dragnslcrelite101- http://www.cdburnerxp.se/ is a free CD burning tool01:04
elite101i know i can just use windows normal cd burner01:04
elite101or wait no01:04
elite101i mean nero01:04
neusonceyes i can get in to adept but what i can install is very limited01:04
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Silent_Ghello, im trying to view avi files but they aint playing good, the sound really sucks, is there something i should install?01:04
neusoncemost of it i cant even install01:04
DragnslcrI don't think the builtin CD burning in XP can't do iso images01:04
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DragnslcrNero can, if you have it01:05
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DragnslcrCDBurnerXP can as well01:05
elite101im going to the library and do it01:05
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vzduchneusonce: if so, then either your sources.list is b0rked, or it's PEBKAC01:05
elite101lol the library01:05
Dragnslcr(That's what I used to burn my original Kubuntu DVD)01:05
martijnhi, i want to buy me a PDA. Is there any palm to avoid? I want to use it with KPilot i suppose....01:05
jazzrabbitto view avi files you need install gstream, i think that is the answe for your problem01:05
neusoncewell vzdutch i just installed kubuntu after being on ubuntu for a week01:06
Silent_Gok dude thankz01:06
neusonce my linux knowlegeis limited01:06
vzduch!info synaptic01:06
ubotusynaptic: Graphical package manager. In component main, is optional. Version (feisty), package size 1279 kB, installed size 5836 kB01:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pebkac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:06
vzduchso you should be able to install that01:06
vzduch sudo apt-get install synaptic01:06
jazzrabbit"sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get install sinaptyc"01:07
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BluesKajneusonce, check your sources.list , make sure the restricted debs aren't commented (# in fornt of the deb)01:07
rogue780how do I make programs automatically start when I log in?01:07
Silent_Gjazzrabbit, there are alot of gstreamer packages, which one?  gstreamer-alsa?01:07
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neusonceReading package lists... Done01:08
jazzrabbitput this in the console "sudo apt-get install gstreamer"01:08
neusonceBuilding dependency tree01:08
neusonceReading state information... Done01:08
neusoncePackage synaptic is not available, but is referred to by another package.01:08
neusonceThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or01:08
neusonceis only available from another source01:08
neusonceE: Package synaptic has no installation candidate01:08
jazzrabbitif that doesn't work install all packages with that name01:09
jazzrabbitI think alsa is for sound01:09
BluesKajneusonce, alt+f2 then type 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list'01:09
jazzrabbitbut i'm not yure01:09
NickPrestarogue780, you can symlink the application to ~/.kde/Autostart. Otherwise, you can use create a script in /etc/init.d/ (and then run `update-rc.d`)01:09
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neusonceok get back to you soon01:09
chcampbI hope this isn't too off-topic, but I can't find anywhere else to ask... if a computer's specs do not specifically say DDR SDRAM, i.e just says DDR, is it still compatible with a motherboard that is currently using DDR SDRAM? or is it DRAM unless it says otherwise?01:09
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martijnchcampb: probably just the same01:10
jazzrabbitI can't fix beryl :'( I Want steves jobs help :(01:10
chcampbso a computer uses SDRAM unless it says otherwise?01:10
chcampbsteve jobs will laugh at your tears :'(01:11
martijnchcampb: yup, that or ddr201:11
jazzrabbiti know he will01:11
chcampbno, ddr2 is supposed to replace DDR SDRAM, and the two arent compatible.... at least that is what the article I read said. wikipedia says that DDR SDRAM = DDR2 but i'm going to trust the editorial01:12
chcampbwhat is wrong with beryl btw?01:12
jazzrabbiti have no borders in the windows01:12
martijnchcampb: i know, but those two are in the market right now i mean.01:12
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chcampbthats easy, jazzrabbit: just hit alt+f2 and type emerald, then press enter01:13
chcampbberyl does the cool graphics, and emerald is for the window borders01:13
chcampbi see, thanks martijn01:13
chcampbdid it work jazz?01:13
jazzrabbitgive me a second01:13
Biovorejazzrabbit: make sure your running in 24bit color..  beryl does the no windows borders thing if the video mode is set wrong..01:13
chcampbit works?01:14
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jazzrabbitmaybe it's that01:14
chcampbyeah, he would probably know better than me :p01:14
chcampbalright, thanks for the advice01:14
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neusonceok iv opened up sources.list in kate and nothings there....01:15
vzduchimpossible.. you sure you typed the path and name right?01:15
MaTiAzbtw, does webcam in MSN work fine in Kopete?01:15
neusoncei can do it again01:15
neusoncei will01:15
vzduchit has to read /etc/apt/sources.list01:16
vzduchcopy and paste that :)01:16
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BluesKaj!source-o-matic | neusonce01:16
ubotuneusonce: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic01:16
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TheoryMaTiAz: viewing works fine, i've not tried broadcast01:16
jazzrabbitdoesn't work01:16
jazzrabbitAnd know i dont have window borders:(01:16
neusoncetheres nothing there...01:17
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redshadowherowindow borders? are we talking about beryl?01:17
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Biovorejazzrabbit: if you can get a shell open type xwininfo and click on the desktop  what does depth say..01:17
redshadowheroI fixed that with the emerald theme manager...01:17
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redshadowheronot sure how to do it otherwise...01:17
Biovoreberyl fails to load right unless you graphics are in 24Bit01:18
MaTiAzTheory: Ok, thanks01:18
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neusonceso do i just cut and paste links from the link you gave me into sources.list ?01:18
jazzrabbitdepth 2401:18
Dragnslcrjazzrabbit- tried this:  To fix your beryl/compiz window decorations (titlebars) with an nVidia graphics card, run  sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24 , then restart !X.01:18
neusoncei used to love the game jazz rabit when i was a kid01:19
BluesKajneusonce, cutand paste the whole page01:19
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jazzrabbitme to01:19
jazzrabbitit's a gret game01:20
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jazzrabbiti put the command you gave me01:20
BluesKajafter you follow the instructions to generate a sources.list page for you, neusonce01:20
runleveltenHas anyone had experience running fglrx 8.33.6 against Feisty?01:20
jazzrabbitbut i can't restart x now because i'm installing something in adept01:20
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DARKGuyhey, how can I open a new login screen in a new display through the terminal ?01:21
neusoncea different kate applet just came up after i pressed create source.list , so just to be clear you want me to cut and paste this entire list  to sources.list01:21
BiovoreDARKGuy: a console login?01:21
BluesKajrunlevelten, i tried it but it din't work with my x200g card so i followed this tutorial and it works with 3D and DRI : http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty01:22
DARKGuyBiovore: nope, a KDM/GDM/XDM screen01:22
velenoporco dio01:22
velenoporco dio01:22
velenoporco dio01:22
velenosiete dei figli di puttana01:22
BluesKajmake sure you save it , neusonce01:22
BiovoreDARKGuy: you can start up another x-session on another terminal and then start kde there...01:22
velenociao troie depravate01:23
ubotuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat01:23
DARKGuyBiovore: well yeah that's what I want to do, but don't know how01:23
BluesKaj!it  | veleno01:23
ubotuveleno: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!01:23
vzduchmartijn, BluesKaj: nevermind, that's a troll01:23
velenomartijn: ciucciamelo01:23
BluesKajitalian trolls ...ok , I thought  trolls were scandinavian like gnomes :)01:24
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neusonceThe document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///ect/apt/sources.list.01:24
neusoncecan i do this in teh terminal ?01:25
runleveltenDARKGuy: I used to use startx -- :1 to do that - caveat certain proprietary 3d drivers don't like that.01:25
martijnneusonce: you have to do it as root (sudo)01:25
martijnor kdesu kate01:25
BiovoreDARKGuy: there is an option from being loged in thats says "login as another user" somewhere..01:25
DARKGuyBiovore: well, yeah, but I'm running some fullscreen app working on something so I can't do that, that's why I asked from the terminal :P01:26
neusonce.... i put in my password when i was prompted01:26
DARKGuyrunlevelten: thanks, I'll try that :)01:26
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vzduchwell, I think saying something like 'swine of God' (not sure here) or 'you are sons of a b*tches' isn't exactly nice..01:26
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neusoncei did martijin01:26
BluesKajneusonce, you have to do the permissions and password thing to edit files , so kdesu kate /etc/apt.sources.list , then paste the text into the empty page.01:26
magor666any one got the d-link DWL G132 wirless working with kubuntu?01:26
martijnneusonce: you can use vim or nano in the terminal01:26
redshadowheroor pico01:27
BluesKajthen save it!01:27
runleveltenAlthough if you want to use multiple x servers, xnest is nice :)01:27
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redshadowherowell, nevermind, pico and nano are similar enough, anyway.01:27
BiovoreDARKGuy: yeah runlevelten's suggestion works.. But on nvidia cards it fails..01:27
DARKGuyBiovore, runlevelten: Now that was scary. A black/white screen with an X cursor then Gnome starts! :/ when I have set up GDM to use KDE as my default session :(01:27
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BluesKajclose any instances of sources.list first , neusonce01:27
DARKGuyBiovore: could figure as much, GeForce4 here xD01:27
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runleveltenYeah, you will get KDE on 7 and Gnome on 801:28
runleveltenYou can use xnest too, you know :)01:28
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martijnbah, i want to see more of kde4 :(01:28
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DARKGuyrunlevelten: hm, how so?01:28
neusonceok bluekaj01:29
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runleveltenDARKGuy: sudo apt-get install Xnest, then run it01:32
DARKGuyrunlevelten: just like that? cool01:32
runleveltenobviously point it at display :101:32
DARKGuyokay, thanks :D01:32
runleveltenyou get another x server in a window on your desktop :)01:32
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Biovorehttp://www.kde-files.org/news/index.php/plasma+screencast?id=256&name=plasma+screencast&PHPSESSID=c53a6c8  <-- screencast of some kde4 stuff01:33
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martijnBiovore: cool, thanks01:36
Biovorehttp://files.ruphy.org/2007/06/17-plasma-icons.avi <-- another cool on about the new icon methods.. very cool stuff..01:37
Biovorebeta is planned for end of sept I think..01:37
magor999elite101: ur using windows cuz ur in kubuntu01:37
elite101what no im not?01:38
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elite101help a microshaft Virus Xp user is in the irc chat01:38
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omeowHi, I'm trying to figure out how I can get a nodeadkeys variant of my keyboard layout, does anyone know how to do that? It doesn't appear to be listed in there, and I'm sure I saw it there at some point...01:40
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vzduchnodeadkeys is just plain irritating imho01:40
omeowYes, that's very helpful. =)01:41
Apollo_Will Ferell is the best01:42
vzduchhow do you write e.g. accented characters w/ a nodeadkeys layout?01:42
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elite101im suprised no one has that nick name ubuntu,01:43
elite101from b401:43
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PazyCan you guys give me a bit of help, i need to get Grub to load my WinXP but i dont know what entry to add01:44
omeowvzduch: I use alt gr.01:45
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vzduchomeow: I'm not sure, but maybe you can hack it directly into your xorg.conf, or choose it while running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' (use w/ care; be sure to back up your xorg.conf beforehand)01:45
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omeowNo thanks. I rather stay away from the whole console business.01:46
vzduchas long as keyboard layouts in KDE are deactivated, KDE will take whatever you choose there01:47
xstCan anyone explain why the "Embedded MPlayer for KDE" can play my videos while neither Kaffeine or any other player can play them? The videos are pretty garbled when viewed with the non-embedded players. Why?01:47
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elite101dont u hate windows user who send u crap threw msn asking u to use it!!!01:48
elite101programs that are .deb01:48
Biovorexst: because mplayer rules :-)01:48
elite101can u use windows mediaplayer using wine?01:49
elite101older ones i imagine01:49
Biovorekinda.. no direct x01:49
PazyCan no one help me?01:49
Biovoremplayer does 99% off stuff.. the only thing it has problems with is wmv with DRM on them..01:49
BiovorePazy: yeah.. 1 sec01:49
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elite101magor666 see #windows-offtopic ? u dont have linux what do u need here?01:50
BiovoreBiovore: Add the following to your menu.lst file in /boot/grub/menu.lst01:50
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BiovorePazy: title  windows       \n       root   (hd1,0)        savedefault       makeactive chainloader +101:51
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elite101well he is annyoing asking me to run programs after he downloaded them01:51
Biovoreor something like that01:51
Pazyone line? or diffrent lines01:51
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elite101nothing like crashing sudo01:51
BiovorePazy: different lines..01:51
BiovorePazy: google on grub and windows01:51
martijnanyone a recommendation on a pda?01:51
Pazydid that, got hell ofa confused lol01:52
PazyThanks, ill do that now01:52
elite101um shoot01:52
BiovorePazy: your location might be different01:52
PazyLocation? how will i work it out01:52
runleveltenDebs over messenger..... make damned sure you trust that person, heh.01:52
elite101thoes attack of the show hardware pron they said areally good pda01:52
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elite101exactly he uses windows (cant even operate that) and ask's me to install debian thingsd01:52
jdtHi, is there a way in KMail, when using IMAP, to keep a copy of the messages for offline viewing, and to improve performance on slow links?01:53
elite101doesnt even say where there from or what they do01:53
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Biovorejdt: there is..01:53
jdtBiovore: I am all ears :)01:53
runleveltenTell him he can give you the name and you'll get it from the official repos.01:53
Biovoreyou have to make a dissconnect imap account01:53
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runleveltenYou give toot privileges on your machine to anyone who gets to run a deb on it, so don't run random ones from msn :)01:54
PazyHow is it I work out the location? Sorry, im anxtous been without gaming for 24 hours lol01:54
runlevelten*root privileges too, haha01:54
jdtBiovore: I see the option :) Thankyou01:54
runleveltenI say run debs, ykwim.01:54
runleveltenspeaking of gaming, time for some FPS action.01:55
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martijn /list01:55
runleveltenI don't think so, hehe. Trem or tce I reckon.01:56
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PazyIm dreading the day I need to buy vista for games, need a whole new system cause its such a cow :(01:56
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neusonce i put in kdesu kate /ect/apt/sources.list and put in the source list i was told to cut and paste i saved it however when i got adept  its still the same ??01:57
runleveltenThey'll have a job pushing that one for a while. There are basically no advantages to running it, the only way 99% of Vista owners will ever have it == arm-twisting.01:57
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neusonce theres no new apps01:57
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runleveltenneusonce, what do you mean no more apps?01:58
elite101martijn, there is a pda running mobile windows and can emulate the iphone for like half the price too (i think its unlocked) really good interface too running iphone on it01:58
PazyIf it wasent for the Vista only games which will come out soon id never even contemplate getting it. But i bet its got more stuff to prevent it working with linux01:58
elite101holy crap a whole school just joined this channel*************01:59
elite101at the same time?01:59
PazyA school would have same ip lol01:59
vzduchPazy: not necessarily01:59
elite101i know but lol wierd all the diff ppl same time01:59
PazyGenerally then01:59
neusoncewell  when i originally  opened sources.list it was empty  NOTHING in there01:59
DragnslcrIt's called a netsplit01:59
ubotunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit01:59
PazyLooks like the same people that got kicked for excess flood01:59
runleveltenThey have 5 ways of forcing ordinary users to run Vista, and 1 way of making them want to.01:59
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PazyResseting comp back in a min02:00
elite101lol u can do that?02:00
neusoncei need to download some apps from adept  but  its very very limited in what i can download02:00
elite101aminute before u get that trojan02:00
vzduchI can't seem to be able to watch this DVD, so I'm gonna rip it02:00
neusonce and what i havent got  is blocked from me02:01
vzduchneusonce: did you put your newly generated sources.list in place?02:01
neusoncevzdutch i saved the file where it was02:02
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vzduchdefine 'where it was'02:02
elite101wholy crap exessive flood ideed lol it was like a tsunami of nicknames02:02
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neusonce   /ect/apt/sources.list02:02
vzduchthen run 'sudo apt-get update'02:02
runleveltenthe one way is to feebly rip off beryl and kde.02:03
runleveltenBluesKaj: Did you say you _didn't_ end up with 8.33.6 running on feisty?02:03
runleveltenIt's moaning about xorg, but dang 8.34 is a *MESS*.02:03
elite101how bad can debian files screw up your pc if curopted or someone hacked them?02:03
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elite101like so bad u cant boot up anymore?02:03
Theoryelite101: debs contain scripts that run as root02:03
elite101ohh so it can do alot of damage02:03
neusoncevz it says it failed to fetch  from each of the address...02:04
vzduchelite101: don't install anything you don't know is safe02:04
elite101that kid magor999 keeps on trying to send me .deb over msn and tells me to run it? i dont know what it does or where he got it from?02:04
neusoncecould not connect to archive02:04
elite101my instinct lol told me not to run them or accept the file02:05
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vzduchwhat does he send you?02:05
elite101.deb files with wierd names02:05
vzduchwhat names?02:05
elite101i dont even know what they are?02:05
elite101i can remeber its on msn i closed the convo02:05
vzduchneusonce: pastebin your sources.list please02:05
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elite101he doesnt even know what they are just sends me that crap?02:05
elite101must be something bad if he wastes his time downloading it02:06
elite101when he is on windows o.002:06
neusoncei just did a kubutu install could you send me the link02:06
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:06
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PazyIm back, I couldent get the GRUB to detect my WInxp, its the location i think02:09
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BiovorePazy: what partion and drive youy have it on?02:10
[ifr0g] hi, is there avahi preinstalled on edgy ?02:10
PazyAll i know is its WInXP is on a Sata and its the secondary master. Linux is primary master on IDE02:10
solarwaverexo ena provlima ti simainei You need to identify to a registered nick to join that channel.?02:10
Biovore[ifr0g] :  yes02:10
vzduchlooks like a problem w/ Australian mirrors.. try New Zealand or Asian mirrors (nz, sg, id, jp, whatever)02:11
PazyMy Win C: is as /media/sdb1 on Linux if that helps02:11
[ifr0g] Biovore, is it wise to remove it.02:11
solarwaveri have aproblem you what it means : You need to identify to a registered nick to join that channel.?02:12
Biovore[ifr0g] : I think it has something to do with Multicast DNS Service Discovery02:12
neusoncehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31184/ any takers02:12
vzduchor you just forgot to import the keys02:13
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Biovoreneusonce: try just archive.ubuntu.com and not AU02:13
vzduchthen run the key commands as described in the file02:13
BiovoreAU servers could be down..02:13
vzduchBiovore: already told him to use other mirrors, no need to burden the main servers02:14
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Biovoreapparently the mirror isn't working..02:14
PazyIs there a way to get Grub to aito detect os's?02:14
solarwaveri have aproblem you what it means : You need to identify to a registered nick to join that channel.?02:14
neusoncecan i get the adress of the site where i can get acess to these mirrors02:14
solarwaveri have aproblem you what it means : You need to identify to a registered nick to join that channel.?02:14
Biovorebesideds.. archive.ubuntu.com isn't 1 server.. is a rotating dns like www.google.com02:15
vzduchsolarwaver: it means what it says, no need to repeat quickly02:15
runlevelten It means: you need to identify to a registered nick to join that channel.02:15
solarwaverwhat is th registere nick02:15
runleveltenIf you don't know what that means, then you're almost certainly not welcome in the channel concerned.02:15
vzduchsolarwaver: any nick as long as it's registered02:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about identify - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:16
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration02:16
solarwavercome on guys i need help over here02:16
solarwaverhow i do registered02:16
vzduchread at the above URL and be happy :)02:17
Biovoresolarwaver: check out www.freenode.net there instructions there on what you need to do..02:17
runleveltensolarwaver: go to your server window (click on ubuntu IRC in the left pane) and type /msg nickserv help register02:17
runleveltenor type in this room: /msg nickserv help register02:17
PazyIm hell of a confused02:17
vzduchanyone ever ripped a DVD w/ K3b?  how long does it take to see some progress?02:18
runleveltenyou can rip with k3b?02:18
runleveltensolarwaver: np :)02:18
jeff185shudent be long02:18
Biovorevzduch: if the DVD is encryped I don't think it will work at all..02:18
runleveltenOh I see what you mean, like for ordinary copying.02:18
solarwaverwhat np?02:18
runleveltenI thought you meant for css stuff.02:19
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PazyPretty please help?02:20
vzduchBiovore: yeah, doesn't seem to work.. transcode returned 'failed to init encoder'02:21
vzduchmultiple read errors02:21
runleveltenwhat's wrong pazy?02:21
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PazyI need to figure out my WInXp location for Grub02:21
Biovorevzduch: I think there is something called k9copy02:21
BiovorePazy: can you see the disk from your linux box?02:22
vzduchyea, I used that before.. but somehow I don't really like it02:22
runleveltendvdrip is probably a better bet than k9copy02:22
PazyWhat you mean can i see my disk? you mean can i access WIn C:?02:22
runlevelten...and that's from someone who generally prefers to use the kde app.02:22
BiovoreI rip dvd's to xvid to x264.. I don't really copy..02:22
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PazyI can access my C:\ (and other Win partiton on my Sata) from my linux (which is on an IDE)02:24
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solarwaverpazy : what linux do u use?02:25
PazyKubuntu 7.04 (latest i think) off the CD I ordered from kubuntu website02:25
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neusoncegrrrrrrrrrrrrrr roar  ok guys, ....... i chaged the source.list to a us server deleted the au  source.list  and i do a sudo apt-get update in the konsole and it still trys to run on teh au source.list02:27
runleveltenand what disks/partitions are 1)the windows system you're trying to boot and 2) the linux system you're booting into on?02:27
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vzduchneusonce: then you didn't put it in the right place02:27
PazyYou talkin to me runlevelten?02:27
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runleveltenPazy: Yes.02:28
neusonce i put it in //etc/apt.sources.list02:28
vzduchneusonce: wrong, it has to be /etc/apt/sources.list02:28
draikneusonce: It's /etc/apt/sources.lst02:28
[ifr0g] Hi, what does this error mean..02:29
[ifr0g] RTNETLINK answers: File exists02:29
[ifr0g] run-parts: /etc/network/if-up.d/avahi-autoipd exited with return code 202:29
neusonce..../etc/apt.sources.list i put it in there02:29
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PazyThe windows C:\ is at /media/sdb1 and Kubuntu is at (hd0,0) (says grub)02:29
vzduchneusonce: again, that's wrong.. look at it closely and find the typo02:29
solarwaverpazy : what linux do u use?02:29
solarwaverpazy : what linux do u use?02:29
PazyKubuntu solarwaver02:29
neusoncegrrrrr thanks vz02:30
draikneusonce: It's /etc/apt/sources.lst02:30
runleveltenOK, I was going to ask you about grub next. Which disk is kubuntu in the first partition of?02:30
solarwaverme to u can write also to the disks?02:30
PazyI dont know what the disk means, that sda and hda?02:30
draik[ifr0g] : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/avahi/+bug/8458002:31
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PazyHow can i tell?02:31
runleveltentype mount and look for the one mounted on /02:31
solarwavercan u write to any of the disks yes or no?02:31
solarwavercan u write to any of the disks yes or no?02:31
vzduch!repeat | solarwaver02:32
ubotusolarwaver: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience02:32
PazyThis right?  /dev/sda1 on / type ext302:32
runleveltenright, and you have two physical disks, right?02:32
draik!patience | draik02:32
Pazyyes Sata and HDD02:32
runleveltenthe first one being the kubuntu disk.02:33
[ifr0g] draik, Is it safe to remove avahi ?02:33
runleveltenand windows I gather is on the second disk?02:33
solarwaverhow do u do that i can not copy anything to the ather disks02:33
runleveltenyeah you said, sorry02:33
draik[ifr0g] : No clue. I just did a quick search for you. That is the first link from google.com/intl/xx-hacker/02:33
runleveltenSo you'll want an option in menu.lst that says:02:33
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solarwaverhow do u do that i can not copy anything to the ather disks02:34
[ifr0g] draik, alright thanks :)02:34
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draik[ifr0g] : No problem. Sorry, but I'm not familiar with it.02:34
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Eljushey all I'm having trouble mounting my smart phone...02:35
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Eljuswhen i plug in the usb nothing happens...02:35
Eljussearched the doc to no avail...02:35
draikEljus: Same here. I have a T-Mobile Wing02:35
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Eljustrying a htc tytn02:36
Eljusno luck , huh02:36
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draikEljus: My solution? Use VMware Workstation with WinXP to do what I need to do. I can also access my Kubuntu and other WinXP partition through the Workstation02:36
runleveltenpazy ^^02:37
Pazythanks, ill reset in a sec and try02:37
runleveltenYeah, give it a go, it should consider it (hd1,0)02:37
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EljusHmmm.  Problem is I'm Linux only.02:38
EljusJumped in head first!  :)02:38
Eljusno partition02:38
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Eljusany idea why it won't recognize?02:39
reldruhhi. I'm trying to get rsync working between my laptop and my server to automatically back up my music once a week. I have it running in daemon mode on my server and when I execute the command "rsync /home/myusername/Media/Music/ACDC/ aaron@" from my server, I get the message "skipping directory /home/myusername/Media/Music/ACDC" Does anybody know why this is happening or how I can fix i02:40
runleveltendraik: I have a similar solution. openSuSE is good for working with _everything_ I own, heh02:41
Biovorereldruh: try a -ar02:41
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Eljusrunleveltn: does it involve windows?02:42
runleveltenyeah, rsync is running non-recursively. Do what Biovore said :)02:42
runleveltenEljus: Certainly not.02:42
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neusonceOK VZDUTCH: this is what im doing  i press alt +f2 i put in " kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.lst" i cut and copy in a list from  the us i save it exit kate, then i go to terminal and put in sudo apt-get update  and still it says im trying to connect to the au server... im not sleeping nor moving till i get this right ....ANYBODY02:44
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vzduchneusonce: you made a typo AGAIN02:46
evjunior09Can anyone here Help me out with making a .Gif Picture? (Moving Picture)02:46
vzduchtrying dvd::rip now, let's see what it can do :)02:47
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neusonce......NO SLEEP02:47
Eljusrunleveltn: care to share?02:47
Biovorevzduch: I use mplayer/mencoder to rip and encode DVD here..02:47
PazyIm back and the GRUB thing didnt work02:47
evjunior09 Neusonce: TILL BROOKLYN!02:47
draikevjunior09: LOL.02:48
neusonceomg im a linux baby02:48
evjunior09Neusonce: youve never heard that song? "No Sleep Till Brooklyn?"02:48
vzduch*omfg* someone who doesn't know the Beastie Boys..02:48
evjunior09neusonce: how old are you?02:48
runleveltenPazy: what happened?02:48
evjunior09Hmm. Weird. lol nooo biggie.02:48
runleveltenvzduch: dvdrip ain't pretty, but it's good.02:49
evjunior09Anyone good with Gimp//.gif Pics?02:49
vzduchneusonce: no reason not to know the Beastie Boys :)02:49
draikIf I had a Bluetooth receiver with Kubuntu, how would I go about xfering the files from my phone to Kubuntu?02:49
dannydrifffftI'm having a problem installing both Ubuntu and Kubuntu. I put the install disk in and choose to install from disk. On Ubuntu, I get the orange background (blue on Kubuntu) and a mouse cursor. I don't get the install dialog. It just stops there with a moveable mouse cursor02:49
neusoncevzdutch tell me wheres my typo02:49
PazyI copied exactly what you put, then  i resetted and chose the WinXP option and it said 'Starting Now' and i left it for 5 mins (make juice) came back it still said starting up. So i disconnected IDE with Linux and inserted WinXP setup disk to get it to boot into WinXP (To see if Win was at fault)02:49
neusonce i know not what im doing ?02:49
draikdannydrifffft: "/sysinfo"02:49
vzduchneusonce: it's not 'lst', it's 'list'02:50
draikdannydrifffft: Do it here. Possibly your hardware...?02:50
Dragnslcrdraik- I vaguely recall that your phone would be detected as a removable drive02:50
elite101is there a .avi codec or caffene02:50
neusonce you told me lst02:50
vzduchneusonce: no, I didn't02:50
dannydrifffftI thought it was the monitor so I tried another monitor and same thing. I tried a different video card and now it's a different problem02:50
neusonce*hits self *02:50
neusonce ok02:50
draik21, huh? Sure fooled me with the "omg"s all over the place02:51
vzduch[02:28:31]  < vzduch> neusonce: wrong, it has to be /etc/apt/sources.list  how's that look? ;)02:51
neusoncei dress myself thank you02:51
dannydrifffftI originally tried it with a PCI-E GeForce 7800GT which is when I get the first problem.02:51
neusoncebut ok02:51
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neusonceapart from that02:51
neusonceim fine02:51
dannydrifffftThen I tried a PCI Radeon 9200 and now I just get a black screen with the blinking underscore on the top left.02:52
draikneusonce: You have been told what to do. We are just under the Hold-Your-Hand phase02:52
draikdannydrifffft: /sysinfo02:52
neusoncekdesu kate /ect/apt/sources.list02:52
vzduchand another typo02:52
neusonce cut copy us server list02:52
vzduchman, learn to copy and paste02:52
neusonce go to terminal02:52
dannydrifffftdraik: what do you mean exactly?02:52
draikSysinfo for 'Lair': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz at 3216 MHz (6432 bogomips), HD: 414/766GB, RAM: 2924/3035MB, 147 proc's, 27.29min up02:52
draikType that in and you will get that.02:52
NickPrestaos[Linux 2.6.20-16-generic i686]  distro[Debian 4.0]  cpu[2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ @ 2.21GHz]  mem[Physical : 2026MB, 75.7% free]  disk[Total : 178.02GB, 73.70% Free]  video[nVidia Corporation GeForce 7900 GS]  sound[] 02:53
dannydrifffftinto IRC?02:53
draik!source-o-matic | neusonce02:53
ubotuneusonce: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic02:53
draikdannydrifffft: yes02:53
NickPrestaOh. Sorry about that guys. Didn't mean to flood with that. >_>02:53
dannydrifffftSYSINFO Unknown command02:53
vzduchneusonce:    kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list    copy & paste!02:53
vzduchit's tabbed, so definitely no mistake02:53
dannydrifffftIm using mIRC 6.2102:53
elite101is there a player out there i can downlaod for it to play .avi (i dont wanna download any plugins xD)02:54
vzduchdannydrifffft: you're on Linux, no need to use the darn dreaded mIRC02:54
vzduchelite101: ?02:54
draikdannydrifffft: Sorry.02:54
dannydrifffftI'm not on Linux. I'm still on Windows.02:54
draikvzduch: No, he's not.02:54
dannydrifffftI'm trying to install Linux.02:54
elite101yeah i dont wanna get plugins for caffene02:54
draikvzduch: He's trying to get into K/Ubuntu, but can't.02:54
vzduchdraik: ah ok02:54
elite101i just wanna another player that can play .avi02:54
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runleveltenWell avi is just a wrapper. You'll need to have the ability to play usual formats to play 'em.02:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about internet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:55
evjunior09If i download Photoshop on Limewire, will it work on WINE?02:55
vzduch!w32codecs | elite10102:55
ubotuelite101: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs02:55
draikWhat's wrong with windows? It's the best thing out there!02:55
draikI REALLY hope you caught the sarcasm on that one!02:55
vzduchdraik: are you mad???02:55
runleveltenevjunior09: Buy a copy or use the GIMP.02:55
PazyI think im screwed02:55
dannydrifffftdraik: if you want I can send/PM you my cpu-z file02:55
draikdannydrifffft: Sure02:55
runleveltenPazy: still waiting on the rest of your sentence02:56
elite101will photoshop work in wine?02:56
Pazywhat you mean?02:56
dannydrifffftdraik: k one second. thanks02:56
draikelite101: CS2 yes02:56
runleveltenelite101: yes.02:56
evjunior09runlevelten: i dont have the money to pay for the copy at the moment. Sure i would rather Purchase one. but for now can i use it? GIMP is too hard to use and i dont understand it02:56
neusonceok, vz  when i put the us sever list in sources.list it says it can not be saved so it creates another source.list called "source.list~"02:56
draikdannydrifffft: NP02:56
elite101i have 702:56
draikelite101: I have yet to try CS302:56
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runleveltenevjunior09: Suck it up. There's a free alternative for you to use, there is no excuse.02:56
vzduchneusonce: the one w/ the ~ is the backup02:56
draikelite101: Yeah, that shouldn't be a problem. I don't think...02:56
vzduchthat's normal02:56
elihi all, what is the absolutely most failsafeee and easy way to upgrade from 6.06 to 7.04?02:57
evjunior09Runlevelten: okay thanks for your useless Input02:57
runleveltenYou are actually being given an equivalent program.... for free. What's not to afford?02:57
vzduchelite101: there's no failsafe way02:57
draikMoney for software? That's a first   ;P02:57
evjunior09I simply dont like GIMP. its lame02:57
elite101eli, i need the same thing02:57
PazyGIMP is good but harder to get used to that PS02:57
elite101lol its not me but he is my brother02:57
elite101i have same ver. too lol02:57
PazyWhat rest of sentance do you want runlevelten?02:57
dannydrifffftdraik: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=22049502:58
elite101and was wondering if i can cuz i dont have a dvd reader02:58
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dannydrifffftdon't know if that has the information youre wanting, but I hope it helps.02:58
draikdannydrifffft: Will let you know02:58
runleveltenevjunior09: If you were too good for the GIMP, maybe you'd have the cash to use the software according to its license. But you're not.02:58
eliI would guess that one way is to change dapper to feisty in /etc/apt/sources.list, elite10102:58
runleveltenAnyway, w/e.02:58
elibut I'm wondering if there's an easier way02:58
evjunior09I am too good for gimp02:58
evjunior09thanks for noticing02:58
neusonceneusonce@neusonce-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get update02:59
neusonceErr http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty Release.gpg02:59
neusonce  Could not connect to au.archive.ubuntu.com:80 ( - connect (111 Connection refused)02:59
vzducheli: going from Dapper to Feisty directly is definitely not recommended02:59
runleveltenPazy: you said you tried windows on its own.02:59
elite101i was going to shipit but its in dvd formatt02:59
neusonceAND SO ON02:59
elivzduch: how do you recommend it be done?02:59
draikdannydrifffft: From the look of things, you should NOT have an issue.02:59
evjunior09But i'd rather not have this stupid conversation with you. Bye02:59
draikAnything particularly come up? Error message?02:59
NickPrestaevjunior09, if you're too good for The GIMP and require Photoshop, why don't you support a product you need and buy it?02:59
PazyWindows XP on its own works perfect, im playing COD2 the now02:59
elite101i am playing ra2 on here03:00
evjunior09NickPresta: because i dont have the cash on hand. I dont understand why everyone is flipping out over a stupid program03:00
vzducheli: either Dapper  Edgy  Feisty, or back up /home/yourUserName/ and /etc/X11/xorg.conf and do a clean install03:00
dannydrifffftdraik: yeah i have no idea what's going on. I tried the release before Feisty Fawn and it had the same problem. So when 7.0.4 came out I was excited because I thought it'd be fixed.03:00
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dannydrifffftbut same thing.03:00
eliokay, the way to do that is still editing sources.list, vzduch?03:00
NickPrestaevjunior09, If you're too young or don't have the cash to buy Photoshop, you can either live without PS until you have the money or you wouldn't need Photoshop anyways =)03:00
dannydrifffftI can't believe its not even working with the Radeon 9200.03:01
vzduchfor the first possibility, yes, and this twice03:01
draikdannydrifffft: Sorry, don't know what to tell you?03:01
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eliokay, thanks you vzduch03:01
vzduch!upgrade | eli03:01
ubotueli: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)03:01
bob_sinclairhey guys, just wondering which virtualisation product is best/most popular ?03:01
evjunior09Nickpresta: its not that im too young. haha 18 isnt too young for PS. But okay w/e. all i asked is that will it work with WINE03:01
elite101xD is fiesty fawn03:01
kgxhey. is there any way recreate original config files for a program that install via apt-get?03:01
elite101no KDE03:01
runleveltenevjunior09: You're the one who decided to proudly announce it was copied from limiewire.03:02
dannydrifffftdraik: alright. thanks a lot for the help anyway03:02
runleveltenNobody asked you, or cared.03:02
draikevjunior09: Not to be the Devil's advocate, but aren't YOU the one flipping out about a simple suggestion about using GIMP?03:02
bob_sinclairkgx: reinstall hte package03:02
draikdannydrifffft: NP, best of luck03:02
kgxbob_sinclair: didnt seem to help. i broke the config for azureus and now it wont start, even after a reinstall03:02
NickPrestaevjunior09, it will work with Wine if you point it to your installation on Windows, AFAIK03:02
evjunior09draik: all i asked was if it would freakin work on WINE. My god. GIMP = Sucks03:03
kgxi remember there was a way through dkpg but i forgot03:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dkpg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:03
PazyAt least GImp is worth the asking price03:03
bob_sinclairkgx: run rm -Rf ~/.azureus03:03
evjunior09Well right, thats why it sucks. its free03:03
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PazyWell explain you feel sucks about it, you can e-mail it the the people who make it and they may make changes03:04
vzduchevjunior09: if free == sucks, then stay w/ Windoze and be happy..03:04
runleveltenJesus evjunior09, who cares. Just ask some sort of technical question if you want.03:04
Scorpaeni installed proftpd and at the end it asked me if i wanted it standalone or daemon. i made the wrong choices. how do i run that wizard again??03:04
kgxbob_sinclair: i was hoping not to do that but will use it as a last resort :) will google a bit more. ta03:04
runleveltenOr don't03:04
draikPazy: They use GIMP at work. Seems worth it03:04
evjunior09vzduch: trust me i didnt want Kubuntu03:04
PazyGimp is great I find as well03:04
runleveltenevjunior09: Allow me to provide you with a refund. Here [       ] 03:04
bob_sinclairkgx: if you have not installed and using sun-java then thats probably your issue03:04
bob_sinclairgimp is awesome, you just need to learn it03:04
PazyI use Gimp on Linux and Ps on windows, no problems for me03:04
runleveltenI use PS on Linux sometimes. It's well supported on wine03:05
runleveltenMovie studio funding for Codeweavers to support it, you see.03:06
PazyThe problem for me is my download speed is slower on linux so ive never been bothered to dowload it03:06
Scorpaenreconfig proftpd anyone??03:06
draikevjunior09: Then why on Kubuntu?03:06
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PazyDoes anyone else feel Vista has been less well reveived than XP?03:07
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runleveltenPazy: about 100x03:07
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evjunior09Draik: because Windows wouldnt install on my Computer. i went to 3 different Computer places to help03:07
evjunior09so i was stuck witht his sh!t03:07
vzduchto my knowledge, XP wasn't well received before SP1 as well03:07
PazyPersonally im hoping enough people get pissed at it and go to mac/linux then we can get some games and support03:07
hamadooohi guys .. can someone tell me what is winre is ??03:07
draikPazy: I feel that the "non-geek" community became skeptical with the geeks in regards to what is being offered by Vista03:08
PazyI liked XP from release, and in fact ive got no sp now......................03:08
runleveltenWe already have _some_ games and support :)03:08
elite101i have windows xp pro sp303:08
draikevjunior09: There are MANY flavors of Linux. I can guarantee you that nobody shoved this down your throat03:08
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PazyMore support would be nice, i hate being limited to like 3 commerical linux games, whearas theres thousands od Win games and you dont need to look at sys reqs03:08
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evjunior09Draik: Oh yes it was. Flavors??03:08
runleveltenevjunior09: You know, some of us have spent a good deal of our lives working on that "excrement", and you'll find it's one hell of a lot better than that other OS :)03:08
elite101from sp1 to sp2 to sp3 there latest installment (the recycle bin!)03:08
evjunior09It was either Kubuntu or Nothing03:09
runleveltenChill out for a minute and you might find that out ;)03:09
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ircusrhi all03:09
draikevjunior09: distrowatch.com. Reading wouldn't hurt03:09
bob_sinclairevjunior09: maybe the problem is the computer hardware or the user, hell if you couldn't install even windows...03:09
evjunior09Bob_sinclair: maybe you should read what i said ealier03:09
runleveltenPazy: I hope you're also using happypenguin.org03:09
evjunior09it wasnt me dumbass03:09
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hamadooowhat is winre guys03:09
elite101lol i was be4 elite_hacker along time ago used this couldnt handle it at all untill my windows crashed yet again forced my self to learn this and now i am loving it03:09
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.03:09
vzduchevjunior09: try openSUSE, Fedora, PCLinuxOS, Mandriva, Debian, Slackware, Gentoo..  the choice is almost endless03:09
bob_sinclairevjunior09: what did you say earlier03:10
PazyMandriva is also a good distro, was second distro I tried and first i really liked03:10
runleveltenevjunior09: I suggest Linspire would be what you're after.03:10
elite101puppy dog linux (my fav)03:10
evjunior09vzduch: now what is the difference03:10
vzduchtry and see for yourself03:10
evjunior09bob_Sinclair: none of ur business, if you dont want to go read dont ask03:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about winre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:10
runleveltenIf a bargain basement replacement for windows is what you want, that's what they provide,03:10
vzduchmostly package management and outward appearance03:10
elite101solaris is that a bad distro?? " a hacker distro"?03:10
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PazyIve got solaris on second comp just for fun03:11
vzduchSolaris is not a (Linux) distro, it's an OS in its own right03:11
elite101is it good?03:11
bob_sinclairevjunior09: you asked me to read it, but i wasn't here so... um yeah03:11
PazyAnyone here tried Xbox Linux or Ps3's Linux?03:11
elite101ohh lol03:11
Biovoreelite101: solaris is a different kinda of unix03:11
runleveltenSolaris ia nother Unix, elite10103:11
Biovorelike BSD03:11
evjunior09bob_sinclair: exactly, so just stay out of the conversation. Easy.03:11
elite101Unix? weird03:11
elite101is it free03:11
runleveltens/i a/is a/03:11
elite101i have DSL03:11
bob_sinclairevjunior09: i have every right to be in the conversation dummy03:11
Biovorerunlevelten: yup sun opensourced it..03:11
evjunior09bob_sinclair: no you obviously dont if you dont even know what im talking about. stupid ass03:12
elite101lol why so harsh to him?03:12
Biovoreelite101: might want to google on opensolaris if your intressed in solaris03:12
runleveltenbob_sinclair: I'd ignore him until he asks something people can support ^^03:12
bob_sinclairevjunior09: oi be nice. this is freenode, not your private home03:12
bob_sinclairrunlevelten: true i shall ignore the rogue03:12
ircusrsomebody actually uses solaris?03:12
elite101Biovore, just wondering what it was but good idea thou.03:12
bob_sinclairyes solaris rules03:12
PazyI use solaris03:12
runleveltenlots of people use solaris03:12
draikPazy: YellowDog on PS3... not personally. Ref: http://www.linuxjournal.com03:12
Biovoreircusr: actualy alot of people use it.. engineers03:12
elite101well expct me03:12
Biovoreircusr: because sun hardware is very nice..03:13
ircusrit's gpl right?03:13
elite101cuz i am starting to be an avid user of linux and exploring diff distros03:13
Pazyrunlevelten: so any ideas for help?03:13
ircusrnice but expensive03:13
runleveltenI used to work on Solaris machines years ago.03:13
Biovoresolaris isn't not free03:13
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ircusrwasnt it gpl?03:13
PazyI got solaris for free03:13
Biovore(free like gpl anyway)03:13
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bob_sinclairPazy: help with what sorry03:13
elite101its not free :(03:13
ircusri just ordered a free solaris DVD03:13
Biovoreno solaris is a sun product03:13
ircusrjava is gpl03:13
ircusrit is03:13
PazyGo to solaris's site and you can order a free dvd03:13
ircusri did03:14
ubotufreedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing03:14
Biovoreyou can get solaris for free..03:14
bob_sinclairfree beer ...03:14
ubotuA/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2103:14
PazyWhat is this free beer thing? ive never understood that03:14
elite101sun? u mean java like is that os about programming mostly its not like a u know family pc type of thing?03:14
bob_sinclairPazy: try google :)03:14
PazyTried that, got adds for free beer :P03:14
ircusrfree beer thing means that it's a gift03:14
elite101free beer!!!?03:14
runleveltenPazy: There is free as in beer, and Free as in speech.03:15
draikFree beer... WHERE?!?!  <.<   >.>03:15
runleveltenFree software, does not refer to what it costs. ;)03:15
bob_sinclairPazy: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html03:15
Pazyrunelevelten, thats what i dont understand can u explain diffrence?03:15
ircusrthats the word03:15
elite101ubuntu means linux for ppl lol (stupid stickers!!!)03:15
jeff185its human beings03:15
runleveltenwell the first is the price, and the second is what it is.03:15
PazyIm still oblivious but whatever, ive got bigger concerns03:16
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elite101yeah w.e03:16
runleveltenppl aren't human beings?!!03:16
elite101yeah they arr03:16
jeff185the sticker is linux for human beings03:16
BiovorePazy: free dosn't mean its not free of restrictions..  for the average computer nub there is no obvious difference.. but for developers there is..03:16
elite101yeah i know'03:16
bob_sinclairopera is good free beer imo03:17
vzduchBiovore: and for businesses, for that matter03:17
runleveltenyeah, and gcc is good Free software :)03:17
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PazyOpera is my fav browsere03:17
Biovoresee www.gnu.org for more of this spam..03:17
elite101do businesses run linux software lke major ones ie. google.com/yahoo?03:17
neusonce* pulls his hair out* ok , i press alt +f2 i put in "kdesu kate /etc/apt.sources.list" i put in my password, a box with apt.sources.list opens up i changed from the au servers to the us servers ealier and its countnues to stay us servers i save again and exit  i go to terminal and type " sudo apt-get update" and its cylces thought the au servers.... help03:17
Biovoreball areospace..03:17
flaccidPazy: there you go an example of free beer, not speech :)03:17
flaccidelite101: yes03:18
Biovorethere are alot of linux companes03:18
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elite101that would save money its all free in both ways03:18
elite101well almost03:18
frost0konqueror is missing the settings, file, configure edit, toolbar .... what do i do?03:18
PazyIs there a command to get GRUB to auto detect things?03:19
flaccidPazy: update-grub03:19
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Pazyah thanks, should have guessed that lol03:19
vzduchlooks like I'm gonna need a new DVD drive anytime soon.. it's got problems reading DL DVDs, it always had03:19
draikfrost0: Are you using Beryl?03:20
frost0draik: no sir03:20
draikfrost0: How are the other apps?03:20
frost0draik: ?03:20
draikfrost0: The other applications (programs). Do they display the menu bar?03:21
frost0draik: uh yeah03:21
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neusonce* pulls his hair out* ok , i press alt +f2 i put in "kdesu kate /etc/apt.sources.list" i put in my password, a box with apt.sources.list opens up i changed from the au servers to the us servers ealier and its countnues to stay us servers i save again and exit  i go to terminal and type " sudo apt-get update" and its cylces thought the au servers.... help i will SERIOULY GIVE YOU MY FIRST BORN CHILD03:21
elite101what does it mean solaris cluster?03:21
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draikfrost0: I could only assume something wrong with Konqueror and not your K/Ubuntu install. Can you remove and reinstall konqueror?03:22
espire-darkyoshi6.06 doesn't have an mp3 decoder by default, does it?03:22
frost0draik: how?03:22
elite101it does03:22
espire-darkyoshiit does?03:22
vzduchneusonce: holy cr*p, how do you manage to produce a typ EVERY TIME?03:22
frost0draik: i'll do it but not sure off the top o fmy head03:22
elite101i used .mp3 fiels before when i made a fresh install03:22
neusonceVZ DUTCH03:22
elite101even onlive cd03:22
neusoncei dont know03:22
neusonceim desperatly trying to learn linux03:23
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neusonce  if only for my employments sake03:23
vzduchneusonce:    kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list    copy & paste!03:23
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vzduchneusonce: put on your magnifying glass if you have trouble reading ;)03:23
flaccidvzduch: isn't that what he tried03:23
draikneusonce: This is you.... "Eff you all. You all suck and your suggestions are worth crap and you are all stupid.... Can anyone help me with the question that has been answered by everyone but I'm too ignorant to pay attention?"03:23
frost0draik: uh you there?03:23
vzduchflaccid: no, it isn't03:24
frost0draik: sorry..03:24
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neusoncesorry guys03:24
flaccidum im reading it abovve..03:24
neusonce im not trying to come off that way at all03:24
neusonceim just very tired03:24
espire-darkyoshi:O why are there folders for mp3, wav, flac, etc. on my audio CD? is this virtualized for user-friendlyness?03:24
draikfrost0: sudo apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove konqueror && sudo apt-get install konqueror03:24
neusonce i i thank you for you help all of you03:24
neusonce you guys are amazing03:24
runleveltenHang on, I thought pazy's problem was that nothing would detect his windows partition...03:25
draikPity and empty remorse... the last resort of a lost soul03:25
runleveltenOoh, wot a git.03:25
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frost0draik: E: Sense auto is not understood, try true or false.03:25
vzduchdraik: ?03:25
solarwavercan u write to any of the disks ?03:25
frost0draik: that is what i get03:25
solarwavercan u write to any of the disks ?03:25
neusonce*bows to vzdutch* i was wrong03:25
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draikvzduch: in regards to neusonce03:26
runleveltensolarwaver: what do you mean?03:26
vzduchdraik: '--autoremove'  w/o the dash in the middle03:26
draikfrost0: You're on Kubuntu right?03:26
draikThank you vzduch03:26
draikfrost0: sudo apt-get remove --purge --autoremove konqueror && sudo apt-get install konqueror03:26
runleveltenI may play tremulous, methinks.03:26
draikfrost0: My apologies for my typo03:26
draikrunlevelten: I have not played that in a while.03:27
draikrunlevelten: I get fragged quickly. Oh well03:27
runleveltenor call of duty united offensive if I can be bothered to install it :)03:27
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frost0draik: E: Command line option --autoremove is not understood03:27
runleveltendraik: Yep, that's trem for ya, heh. Still ufn though :)03:27
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vzduchbut I did play Supertux.. need some additional levels ;)03:28
frost0draik: :P03:28
gdholdinghallo leute ich hab eine frage03:28
frost0draik: i <3 konsole03:28
vzduchgdholding: hier in Englisch bitte :)03:28
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gdholdingich bin in einem netz mit 192.168.x.x03:29
vzduchgdholding: schl dder :/03:29
gdholdingich bin momentan in 192.168.4.xxx03:29
draikfrost0: sudo apt-get remove --purge konqueror && sudo apt-get install konqueror03:29
gdholdingund ich mchte auf einem rechner aus dem 192.168.111.xxx03:29
draikI <3 CLI as well, but I just wish I knew it better :)03:29
gdholdingkreis zugreifen ???03:29
vzduch!de | gd03:29
ubotugd: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de03:29
vzduch!de | gdholding03:29
ubotugdholding: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de03:29
gdholdingim 4er kreis hab ich eine probs mit samba nur im 111er geht nichts03:30
vzduchgdholding: dayum, go to bed if you can't read or fix your IRC client if your hilight doesn't work.. but SPEAK ENGLISH IN HERE!!! ;)03:31
neusonceOMG THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU,  SORRY GUYS, i was up all night trying to figure out ubuntu 64bit,  untill i was told what i was trying to achive i might as well  be sacraficing small children for, so i installed kubuntu and becuase it was a clean install   i had to download a few things, basically im dead tired sorrry for any grief i put you though i wasent trying to be arrogant, i guess i was more tired than  i thouht03:32
vzduchneusonce: no offence taken :)03:33
underdog5004whoa...happy much?03:33
neusonce in away you just kinda saved my job03:33
neusonce anyway....03:34
neusoncethank you03:34
vzduchneusonce: by the way.. it's enough if you type the first 2 or 3 characters of a nick and then press the Tab key.. then you will spell my nick correctly :)03:34
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frost0draik: no luck, how about opera?03:34
frost0draik: how would i install that?03:34
neusonce<------------------------LINUX BABY03:34
draikfrost0: sudo apt-get install opera03:34
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NickPrestaany idea why `uptime` is showing 2 users and `users` is showing just one?03:35
frost0draik: if i have flash working in konqueror do you think it will work in opera?03:35
draikI believe it might. Not 100% sure03:36
flaccidyeah flash works in opera03:36
vzduchNickPresta: same here.. guess it's counting the root account as well03:36
flaccidit can use the mozilla libflashplayer.so03:36
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NickPrestavzduch, that must be it. I have used sudo in the last 10 minutes.03:37
frost0draik: how would i create the shortcut for opera?03:37
draikShortcut to the desktop?03:37
frost0draik: yep03:37
flaccidit should install one in the kmenu then you can right click and copy the shortcut to desktop03:38
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frost0flaccid, gracias. you were correcto03:38
draikThere you go03:38
flaccidsorry to barge in like that03:38
frost0any ideas on ie only websites in linux?03:39
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frost0i heard of ie4linux for something like that03:40
Kr4t05Is there anyway to rebuild the K-Menu, so things are organized properly?03:40
ubotuies4linux is a script that quickly and effortlessly helps you install 3 versions of IE in Wine. Information can be found at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page including instructions specifically for Ubuntu. ies4linux is aimed at web designers and ie-only sites, so please, dont use any of the IEs to navigate! Use Firefox!03:40
flaccidfrost0: ie7 support soon, well it exists now in the svn for ies4linux - a bit hacked03:41
ubotumplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs03:42
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frost0flaccid, how would i install the two dependencies: cabextract and wine?03:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mplayer-plugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:42
flaccidfrost0: using apt-get03:42
persen_Any guides to install m player in firefox?03:42
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Kr4t05!info mozilla-mplayer > persen_03:42
frost0flaccid: uh....apt-get install cabextract?03:43
flaccid!info cabextract03:43
ubotucabextract: a program to extract Microsoft Cabinet files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-2 (feisty), package size 52 kB, installed size 184 kB03:43
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Kr4t05Anyone know how to reset the Kmenu?03:44
BluesKajneusonce, BTW it doesn't really matter which country that the repos you are using is located in.. as long as the pkg manager installs the apps you want :)03:44
flaccidKr4t05: try #kde i guess03:44
rayluBluesKaj, until you can't read a word of it. "Erase all files on all hard drives?"03:44
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Kr4t05flaccid: will do.03:44
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persen_nice, worked out of the box!03:45
BluesKajraylu, ... ??03:45
flaccidKr4t05: i guess you can make a fresh user/profile then copy that, but there should be a proper way imo03:45
vzduchBluesKaj: probably not, but it's wise to use mirrors near you :)03:45
rayluBluesKaj, lol, it's possible that the repos are localized and not in your language03:45
Kr4t05flaccid: Alright, let me see what #kde says, first.03:45
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BluesKajwell, aussie or US , use the same language , and that was neusonce's problem... it's still english :)03:46
vzduchbut for the English speakers, I wonder if there's any difference in the language besides the usual spelling deviations between en_US and en_GB03:47
flaccidyanks speak yank :p03:47
raylulol...i suppose none of you have ever seen a paragraph-long bug report about the mispelling of "colour"03:48
BluesKajnot a lot , we here in Canada use mostly brit spellings , but it really doesn't make much diff..03:48
vzduchfor the spoken language there can be considerable differences, I know that.. but for written?  I'm not sure03:48
BluesKajas for the french in quebec , that's their prob :)03:48
vzduchyeah, fr_QC is said to sound like 17th-century French03:49
vzduchcompared w/ fr_FR, that is03:49
BluesKajwe're talking about repositories , not the pc usage03:49
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vzduchit's said to be easier to get into Canada if you speak French03:51
vzduchbecause of lower hurdles in Qubec03:51
BluesKajvzduch, actually french in quebec has several dialects , and the educated types speak the kind of french i can actually understand , but the local vernacular french around here is almost unintelligible :)03:52
rayluor you could..not enter through quebec?03:52
stonedit makes you wonder03:53
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:54
BluesKajstoned, scary stuff03:55
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draikstoned: I love seeing pictures like that. I wish I could find the picture of a planet from the nearest galaxy. Imagine an orange sitting on a table. Earth is too small to even notice next to this planet.03:59
hamadooohi .. can someone help me to upgrade my ipw3945 wireless driver ... cuz i can't use the monitoring mode03:59
kai_this is my first day on linux03:59
stoneddraik: very true03:59
draikWelcome kai_03:59
hamadoookai_     ..... welcome03:59
stonedkai_: you are in for a treat04:00
stonedyou are now using free software04:00
kai_I went through hell trying to figure out how to get GAIM to work lol04:00
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MaTiAzIs there a way to watch divx streaming video on Linux?04:00
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draikstoned: I think I found my fiance's wedding ring diamond!!! ;p04:01
kai_stoned - it still comes at a price, but it's a price I'm much more willing to pay than cash.04:01
stonedthat maybe true04:01
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stonedbut GNU is free software04:01
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kai_the price is learning how to use it, but that's also a benefit04:01
stonednot just money free, but completely and truely free in all senses04:01
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kai_yeah I like it04:01
kai_I've already dived into learning how to use kDevelop04:02
linux_user400354is it possible to print from linux to a computer with vista thats sharing a printer without using a username and password for the work group?04:02
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underdog5004 MaTiAz , you might want to check out jinzora204:02
underdog5004that can stream just about anything04:02
rayluis it possible for you to hook up the printer to the linux machine?04:03
NickPrestalinux_user400354, I do something similar by connecting to the Windows Shared Printer with SAMBA?04:03
NickPrestalinux_user400354, and forget that question mark. >_>04:03
rayluNickPresta, if you're using the samba client, you need a password, i believe04:03
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NickPrestaraylu, the printer or user account on Windows does not have a password so I don't know it's a requirement. I don't know for sure though04:04
rayluthat's what i thought too, but apparently i need a valid account04:05
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NickPrestaraylu, have you tried entering a blank username/password combination?04:06
rayluer...i'm using smbfs, how do i do that?04:06
kai_how do I find the drivers for my graphics card and mother board?04:06
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raylukai_, model?04:06
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NickPrestaraylu, to be quite honest, I don't know for sure. I used the printer wizard in system settings to setup my SAMBA shared printer.04:07
kai_raylu - my video card is a Leadtek nVIDIA 6600GT04:07
raylucheck your fstab?04:07
raylu!nvidia | kai_04:07
ubotukai_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:07
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ircusrhi all04:07
kai_raylu - and my mother board is ASUS K8V-SE Delux04:07
hitmanWillykai_, unless something isn't working, you shouldn't need any mobo drivers04:08
kai_thanks ubotu04:08
vzduch!thanks | kai_04:08
ubotukai_: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)04:08
kai_hitmanWilly - I wouldn't know so I thought I'd ask04:08
kai_ubotu - don't be so hard on yourself!04:08
hitmanWillykai_, asus boards are usually very well supported, i've got one, btw04:09
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kai_cool hitman04:10
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kai_does GNOME have an IDE the way KDE does with KDevelop?04:11
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!04:11
hitmanWillykai_, not really, but kdevelop will run under it04:11
hitmanWillykai_, anjuta is pretty good as well04:11
kai_can I use KDevelop to develop an GNOME application?04:11
hitmanWillykai_, you can use it to develop pretty much anything, assuming you have the necessary dev libs04:12
hitmanWillykai_, in the case of gnome, you would need gtk04:12
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kai_gtk? ok04:13
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hitmanWillykai_, its probably going to be listed as gtk-dev or something similar04:13
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kai_cool thanks04:14
kai_I'll keep that in mind. I'm going to learn to program in KDE first.04:14
hitmanWillykai_, all it is is different widget sets04:15
raylujust learn to program for the console ^^04:15
rayluanything else is deadweight :D04:15
hitmanWillyraylu, :P agreed...04:15
kai_it's all interrelated and interconnected04:15
rayluthe console connects everything04:16
rayluand gtk sucks :P04:16
hitmanWillyraylu, again, agreed :)04:16
kai_yes, but KDevelop will teach me how the console works04:16
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vzduchgood night people :904:16
NickPrestanight, vzduch04:17
hitmanWillykai_, if you REALLY want to learn how it works, use kate or vim and compile by hand via gcc04:17
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NickPrestahitmanWilly, not only that, but I find that you learn how to use your compiler too. I haven't used KDevelop extensively but when using gcc in a terminal, I learned a lot.04:18
raylukai_, so can...python04:18
kai_I prefere to learn KDevelop first04:18
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hitmanWillykai_, kdevelop does python :)04:19
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hitmanWillykai_, or C/C++, perl, ruby, etc...04:19
kai_I wanted to install Prime95 from the prime search website. I downloaded the source and I was able to find the source with main. But when I tried to run it using gcc I got all kinds of errors.04:20
kai_when I tried to compile it rather04:20
kai_it's like, how do I even use gcc to compile it? I'll just have to figure it out a little at a time.04:21
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hitmanWillykai_, look at the makefile and pick through that to see what options gcc needs04:21
hitmanWillykai_, that's a good place to start04:21
kai_cool I'll do that04:22
kai_it's frustrating when I don't understand it. It feels like it's unnecessarily hairy and convoluted. But that's what I love about it.04:23
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hitmanWillytheonlyl, howdy04:26
theonlyl!seen stdin04:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about seen stdin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:26
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theonlylhitmanWilly: how are you04:27
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hitmanWillytheonlyl, just fine, you?04:27
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kai_thanks guys I'll catch ya'll later!04:29
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hitmanWillykinda slow tonight04:33
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BluesKajinteresting there's over 300 ppl onboard and nobody has a prob right now :)04:35
theonlylanyone here knows much about wireless cracking?04:36
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BluesKajuhmm , cracking ....wrong chatfor that !04:39
slacker403Mem:        514452     494804      19648          0       8520     30131604:39
slacker403-/+ buffers/cache:     184968     32948404:39
slacker403Swap:      1212896          0    121289604:39
slacker403how much mem is actually being used ?04:39
NickPrestaslacker403, 18496804:40
slacker403is that without cache ?04:40
NickPrestaits with04:40
NickPrestawithout, it's the number above it04:40
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slacker403im saying how much ram is actually being used without all the cache04:40
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slacker403what number ?04:40
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slacker403so 494 MB of ram ?04:41
slacker403so with cache is uses less ram ?04:41
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slacker403184 mb you said and that is without cache as you said04:41
slacker403sorry with04:42
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slacker403and 494 mb of ram is without ?04:42
slacker403not making sense04:42
hitmanWillyslacker403, the first number 184968 is without buffers/cache04:42
slacker403not bad04:42
slacker403almost my 150 mb mark04:42
slacker403plus i got all that extra crap enabled04:42
hitmanWillyslacker403, look at the beginning of the line, -/+ buffers/cache shows what order they're listed in04:43
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draikDoes anyone here have a pocketpc/smart phone?04:43
hitmanWillytheonlyl, here's a link to everything you need for that: http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/unix-koans/script-kiddie.html04:44
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Scorpaenreconfig proftpd anyone??04:45
jhutchinsslacker403: Dude, pastebin!04:45
Scorpaeni installed proftpd and at the end it asked me if i wanted it standalone or daemon. i made the wrong choices. how do i run that wizard again??04:45
jhutchinsslacker403: You are SO lucky the ops are asleep.04:45
jhutchins!enter | slacker40304:45
ubotuslacker403: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!04:45
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jhutchinsWhen the whole gist of your question scrolls offscreen because you've got so many lines posted, it's pointless to try to scroll back and help you.04:45
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hitmanWillyScorpaen, you may try man proftpd or proftpd --help to get usage info04:46
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jhutchinsScorpaen: What did you choose?04:47
hitmanWillyScorpaen, or just purge and reinstall it04:47
slacker403where can i add a repo btw ?04:47
jhutchinsScorpaen: Or restore the stock config file and try again.04:47
hitmanWillyslacker403, /etc/sources.list04:47
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic04:47
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Scorpaenjhutchins, how do i purge it?04:48
jhutchins!repos } slacker40304:48
hitmanWillyslacker403, sorry/etc/apt/sources.list04:48
Scorpaenjhutchins, i'm new to Kubuntu04:48
jhutchins!repos | slacker40304:48
ubotuslacker403: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:48
Scorpaencame from GEntoo04:48
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hitmanWillyScorpaen, ah, k, sudo dpkg -P <package_name>04:48
jhutchinsScorpaen: Dunno how exactly you'd find the stock config file if you failed to make a backup prior to editing, but which option did you choose?04:49
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jhutchinsScorpaen: Why are you running an ftp server anyway - are you running a honeypot to trap hackers?04:49
damian_i have tried to install mp3 support, however it cannot find libxine1-ffmpeg04:49
damian_can anyone help?04:49
Scorpaenjhutchins, i chose to run in xinetd vs standalone04:50
Scorpaeni DO NOT want that04:50
hitmanWillyjhutchins, *crackers, hacker != cracker :P04:50
Scorpaenalso chose mysql support04:50
jhutchinsdamian_: Did you see the URL's above about easysources and repositories?04:50
Scorpaenjhutchins, mind your own business :P04:50
Scorpaenand thanks for the help04:50
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:50
jhutchins!mp3 | damian_04:50
ubotudamian_: please see above04:50
jhutchinsOpps that's gonna dupe.04:50
jhutchinsScorpaen: Well I could tell you how the standalone works as opposed to the daemon, but I guess I'll just tottle off to bed since you don't want help.04:51
jhutchinsG'Night all.04:51
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BluesKajScorpaen, see what ys did ! :)04:55
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hitmanWillyScorpaen, anyway, did you try the purge and reinstall?04:56
slacker403how oid i install a .deb again dpkg -l dfdfdfd.deb ??????04:56
hitmanWillyslacker403, sudo dpkg -i <name_of_pkg>.deb04:57
ScorpaenhitmanWilly, worked like a charm04:57
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hitmanWillyScorpaen, the reason why is that a full purge vs regular remove wipes the config files as well04:58
corevetteunder kubuntu, what is the command to install .deb's04:58
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hitmanWillycorevette, sudo dpkg -i <name_of_pkg>.deb04:58
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corevetteand what do i add if it has other dependencies04:59
corevetteto install automatically04:59
slacker403can i install and also get dependcies04:59
hitmanWillycorevette, slacker403, first see if the pkg is in the repos, apt will pull in all necessary dependencies (usually)05:00
hitmanWillycorevette, install gaim from the repos, then install the pidgin deb, the gaim should pull in all of pidgin's deps from the repos05:01
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corevettebut isn't there a command to install dependencies?05:02
hitmanWillycorevette, hopefully05:02
melkordoes anybody here have trouble copying files to usb devices?05:02
hitmanWillycorevette, not sure actually, man dpkg and find out :)05:02
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melkorI just wrote almost 2 gigs to this thing, unmounted it and it forgot nearly half of the shit I wrote to it.05:04
melkornot to mention that the copying takes forever.05:04
hitmanWillymelkor, usb1 port?05:04
melkorIt goes in spurts05:05
melkorno I'm pretty sure its 205:05
hitmanWillymelkor, it almost sounds like the device itself is going bad05:05
melkorits a phone, and I just put a big card in and now it doesn't work well05:06
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melkorbut if I do an fsck it deosn't give me any errors05:06
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hitmanWillymelkor, does it have any kind of drive activity light?05:07
slacker403whats that one package that installs basic make stuff ?05:07
robotgeekslacker403: build-essential05:07
hitmanWillyslacker403, build-essential05:07
slacker403ah yea05:07
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Kr4t05I just discovered ZSH.05:08
Kr4t05It's nice.05:08
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hitmanWillymelkor, well, a regular umount cmd should dump any data still in the buffer to the drive before it finishes, that's weird05:08
slacker403error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory05:09
slacker403doesnt every computer have this ?05:09
melkorlets say I had to type usbmodules --device /proc/bus/usb/001/00105:09
slacker403surely my freshly installed kubuntuy05:09
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melkordo you think the last two numbers are important?05:09
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hitmanWillymelkor, not sure, never used that cmd, lemme see...05:09
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BluesKajsacktime, ..nite all, take care05:12
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cpaceanyone here run Enlightenment for a window manager?05:12
melkoranother thing that was wierd, I did a df -h and it said that 3.8 gigs of the 4 gigs were being used05:13
melkorits a 2 gig device05:14
hitmanWillymelkor, hmmmm05:14
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hitmanWillycpace, e16 or e17?05:15
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)05:15
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hitmanWillycpace, nope, never could get it to compile right05:16
slacker403this is bulllcrap05:16
cpaceI used the packages for feisty05:16
cpaceworks well05:16
hitmanWillycpace, windowmaker here :)05:16
cpacebut after an update it hosed something in the personal settings05:16
cpacetried a dpkg-reconfigure and everything but just can't figure it out...will probably need to remove my ~/.e directory05:17
scottyanyone know of a good LAMP guide for Feisty?05:17
cpacejust checking to  see if anyone know05:17
cpacety for the response though hitmanWilly05:17
hitmanWillycpace, try #enlightenment or #e17 or something05:17
hitmanWillycpace, they'd probably know better than I would :)05:18
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cpaceI'm on there but no one is available :(05:19
melkorhey thanks for the time05:19
cpacety though05:19
cpaceI'll look for it tomorrow05:20
slacker403VirtualBox: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory05:21
slacker403what kind of error is this05:21
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slacker403isnt this impossible ?05:21
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hitmanWillyslacker403, not impossible, try find / -iname 'libstdc++*' and see where its installed05:25
scottyWhat's the command to unfreeze aptitude or whatever?05:25
hitmanWilly!aptfix | scotty05:25
ubotuscotty: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 05:25
scotty*that's it05:25
hitmanWillynp :)05:25
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digitalskyhi, i'm new to kubuntu05:27
hitmanWillydigitalsky, howdy, and welcome :)05:28
digitalskyrunning into problem as soon as i booted from CD (7.04)05:28
digitalskyhi hitmanWilly05:28
digitalskyI got the "file protocol died unexpectedly" error and don't have any icons on the KDE desktop... so I can't install05:28
slacker403hitmanWilly: i mean isnt that installed by default with kubuntu ?05:29
digitalskyi've read that the error can be solved by using a smaller desktop wallpaper, but i'm booting from CD, so I don't know how to configure it to start with something else on the next reboot05:29
hitmanWillydigitalsky, try booting into safe graphics mode05:29
hitmanWillyslacker403, it should be, but the app might be looking in the wrong place for it05:30
hitmanWilly!find libstdc++05:30
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digitalskyok i'll try that05:30
ubotuFound: libstdc++5, libstdc++5-3.3-dev, libstdc++6, libstdc++6-4.1-dbg, libstdc++6-4.1-dev (and 12 others)05:30
slacker403hitmanWilly: wouldnt that call for a re compile ?05:30
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hitmanWillyslacker403, probably, if you have to set the correct ./configure values05:31
slacker403ok mayb it wasnt installed05:31
hitmanWillyslacker403, ahh, you probably need the -dev version(s) if you're compiling05:31
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digitalskybooting... another problem is sound isn't working, but one thing at a time i guess. i was hoping it would boot up and things would just work...05:32
hitmanWillydigitalsky, sometimes yes, sometimes no, just like anything else :)05:32
digitalskybtw my system is a celeron 300A (pentium 2), 1GB ram, with soundblaster 16 card05:32
digitalskyi gave up with freebsd after too many problems, and am now trying kubuntu05:33
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hitmanWillydigitalsky, you may want to try a distro geared for older hw, like puppy or DSL05:33
digitalskypuppy? DSL?05:34
hitmanWillydigitalsky, kubuntu can be resource intensive, at least for linux05:34
klobsteranyone know more about this: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/MountDisksByLabel05:34
klobsterthe part about root filesystem bug05:34
hitmanWillyklobster, sure, don't do it :P05:34
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digitalskywould ubuntu be any better?05:35
digitalskyie, is it a desktop thing?05:35
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klobsterhitmanWilly: I meant about the bug, what is that about?05:36
hitmanWillydigitalsky, kind of, but not really, gnome is almost as heavy as kde05:36
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hitmanWillyklobster, not really sure, i don't really play around with init imgs05:36
labrat265anyone know how to get k3b to work with apple lossless files?05:37
hitmanWillyklobster, but ubuntu uses its own img so it might work ok05:37
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labrat265or know a program to convert them?05:38
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klobstertry the ubuntu alternative cd with fcwm as the window manager05:39
labrat265ok, i'll give that a try, thanks05:40
hitmanWillylabrat265, ?05:40
scottyoh crap05:40
digitalskyis it worse than freebsd? i had freebsd 6.2 + kde and things loaded up ok, but stuff here and there are not working and thats why i swtiched05:40
klobsterlabrat265: no not you, digitalsky05:41
digitalskyi booted with safe graphics, got a blank screen with a cursor only05:41
hitmanWillyscotty, problem?05:41
hitmanWillydigitalsky, as in a cmd prompt or just a blinking cursor and nothing else?05:42
stonedwhat a nick05:42
scottyhitmanWilly: I just used this command: sudo tasksel remove lamp-server and it started removing a whole bunch of programs. It got adept and akregator and like 3 more, but I didn't have time to read those. Closed konsole as quick as possibly05:42
labrat265yeah, i just realzed that that was not meant for me.05:42
klobsterstoned: ?05:42
labrat265no, i wish05:43
labrat265just too tired05:43
stonedall that you know burns away into dust05:43
labrat265HAHA! ok, i am obviously having problems05:43
hitmanWillyscotty, did you have kubuntu-desktop installed before hand, or is this a server install?05:43
scottyI had kubuntu-desktop installed I think05:44
scottyI'm just on a normal version of Kubuntu05:44
hitmanWillyscotty, reinstall it, it should pull in anything you lost05:44
hitmanWillyscotty, it sounds like it was removing stuff from there05:44
klobsterlabrat265: do you have the alac codec installed05:45
scottyhitmanWilly: I get errors05:45
hitmanWillyscotty, can you pastebin them?05:45
hitmanWilly!paste | scotty05:45
ubotuscotty: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:45
digitalskyhitmanWilly: just blinking cursor and nothing else05:46
klobsterdigitalsky: fvwm is just a lighter window manager, and the alternative cd is designed for older or less popular hardware05:46
scottyhitmanWilly: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31203/05:46
hitmanWillydigitalsky, yeah, try the alt cd, it has an ncurses installer05:46
klobsterstoned: lobster was taken, and I figured "hey it works for kde, why not me?"05:46
digitalskyklobster: ok05:46
hitmanWillyscotty, did you try sudo apt-get -f install?05:47
labrat265klobster:  where do I find that, adept?05:47
hitmanWilly!medibuntu | labrat26505:48
ubotulabrat265: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org05:48
scottyhitmanWilly: It says it could not resolve any of my sources05:49
hitmanWillyscotty, have you been monkeying around with sources.list?05:49
scottyFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/h/hal/hal_0.5.8.1-4ubuntu12_i386.deb  Could not resolve 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'05:49
stonedklobster: its cute05:49
scottyhitmanWilly: No, I've added one a long time ago05:49
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scottyit's been working until that one thing happened05:49
hitmanWillyscotty, try ping us.archive.ubuntu.com05:50
hitmanWillyscotty, see if that responds05:50
scottyit does05:50
klobsterlabrat265: yeah, ap-get instal alac-decoder05:50
hitmanWillyscotty, ok, so you're dns settings aren't borked, that's good05:50
scottyhitmanWilly: So what should I do now?05:51
hitmanWillyscotty, you may try regenerating sources.list05:51
scottyhitmanWilly: How?05:51
hitmanWilly!sourceomatic | scotty05:51
ubotuscotty: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic05:51
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hitmanWillyscotty, since the server is up and your network settings appear to be in order, that's the next logical place to start05:53
scottyhitmanWilly: Okay, regenerated and saved. Now what?05:54
hitmanWillyscotty, try apt-get -f install again05:54
scottyE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)05:55
scottyE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?05:55
hitmanWillyscotty, with sudo :)05:55
scottyhitmanWilly: I still get Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/h/hal/hal_0.5.8.1-4ubuntu12_i386.deb  Could not resolve 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'05:55
hitmanWillyscotty, sudo apt-get -f install05:55
scottyon all of them05:55
hitmanWillyhold on...05:56
hitmanWillyok, its working here, i mean konq is trying to download the deb05:57
scottyso what should I do?05:57
hitmanWillyscotty, try sudo dpkg --configure -a, see if that helps any05:57
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klobsterhey the bind9 patch just hit the servers, everyone apt-get upgrade05:58
hitmanWillyscotty, it probably won't, but give it a shot anyway05:58
scottyhitmanWilly: Nope05:58
firecrotchThis is going to probably make me sound like a moron, but... How can I change Konsole to use /bin/zsh instead of /bin/bash ?05:58
scottyhitmanWilly: Same error.05:58
scottyAfter I do sudo apt-get -f install05:58
hitmanWillyfirecrotch, change your users default shell05:58
scottyhitmanWilly: I think it might've uninstalled apt ...05:59
scottyIf that makes sense?05:59
hitmanWillyfirecrotch, and relogin05:59
scottyIt started uninstalling a lot of stuff that started with a05:59
firecrotchhitmanWilly: Thank you! :)05:59
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hitmanWillyscotty, no, if apt uninstalled, you would be getting a cmd not found06:00
scottyoh, okay06:00
hitmanWillyscotty, well, im rapidly becoming as confused as you :(06:01
scottyhitmanWilly: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31205/ That error help?06:01
stonedsomeone help please06:02
stonedI have a very serious problem06:02
hitmanWillyscotty, well, you uninstalled adept, that's not good06:02
scottyyeah ...06:02
stonedI can't seem to breath out of my nose.  I've used vicks and still no luck.  It is very frustrating.06:02
hitmanWillyscotty, but it shouldn't affect apt, unless it got part of apt, but not all06:03
digitalskyif i dun see the install icon, can i still install it? what's the command?06:03
stonedI am sleepy, I hope I don't suffocate during the night06:03
scottyhitmanWilly: So what are my options?06:03
digitalskyi don't want to bother with DLing a new disc and doing it again06:03
hitmanWillyscotty, ok, crazy idea, try sudo aptitude -f install06:03
scottyhitmanWilly: still could not resolve06:04
hitmanWillyok, brb, will ponder over a cancer stick...06:04
stonedwtf is kk06:05
stonedyou can't just type ok instead06:05
stonedmoving your finger 1cm over is so hard?06:05
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stonedscotty 2 hotty06:06
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imslow3ri can't see shit capton06:07
Admiral_Chicagoplease keep all conversation on topic (kubuntu support)06:07
Admiral_Chicagoimslow3r: please watch the language06:07
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imslow3rmmk i'm soz06:08
scottystoned: Dude, shut up or go away. This channel is for support.06:08
scottyI'm sorry to be rude06:08
scottyBut you're being rather immature.06:08
stonedyou are right. I am wrong.  you are very good looking and I am very ugly.  kk is better than saying ok.  you win, have at it.06:09
imslow3rwai 2 b man06:10
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hitmanWillyscotty, ok, there are a couple of options here that i can think of06:12
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hitmanWillyscotty, you can try wget on the individual deb pkgs and installing them via dpkg06:13
mankeletorhey buddies, what's the kubuntu package manager?06:13
hitmanWillymankeletor, adept is the gui one06:14
hitmanWillymankeletor, or apt-get/dpkg from cmd line06:14
mankeletorsorry but the stupid question, im newbbie with kubuntu06:14
mankeletorthanks hitmanWilly06:14
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scottyhitmanWilly: Can you give me a command or directions? I'm pretty new to Linux.06:14
imslow3ranyone know much about start up services look at my help thred about my keybord thanks http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=50884706:14
hitmanWillyscotty, do you have /home on a seperate partition?06:15
scottyhitmanWilly: No.06:15
hitmanWillyscotty, well, i hate to say this, but you may be down to a reinstall if something serious got dumped06:15
mankeletorhitmanWilly: do I need to refresh the package database after the first install? Install is about 90% right now06:15
scottyWhat about the wget thing?06:16
scotty@ hitmanWilly06:16
imslow3rI have a question how come when i'm copying files over in KDE theres no status bar lol06:16
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MarcChow can I change my Qt theme? It's different from the KDE theme and hard to read.06:16
hitmanWillyscotty, that would involve using wget to download all the individual debs and installing them manually through dpkg06:16
lewixhow do I update a specific package06:16
lewixapt-get update package/06:17
mankeletormy version is Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty)06:17
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hitmanWillymankeletor, its a good idea, to see if anything has been updated06:17
klobsterhey is there an easy way to sync my konq and ff bookmarks?06:17
ubotupinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto06:17
stonedupdate && upgrade after pinning the version you want06:18
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imslow3rklobster have you herd of del.lic.ous or somthin like that06:18
stonedor digg06:19
hitmanWillyklobster, you can import the FF ones into konq, not sure if you can actively sync them06:19
klobsterimslow3r: why?06:19
lewixstoned, please be clear im a newbie06:19
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imslow3rits a socail bookmarking website06:19
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jimmy_i'm not a hacker06:20
hitmanWillyklobster, im pretty sure they use different formats, otherwise id say just symlink them06:20
stonedjimmy_: read the page ubotu said06:20
deliveranceDoes anyone know an easy to configure GUI based ftp server for Ubuntu?06:21
scottyhitmanWilly: I think I'm just gonna reinstall :(06:21
hitmanWillyscotty, sorry, i know the pain of that :(06:21
stoneddeliverance: install vsftpd and edit /etc/vsftpd06:21
stoneddeliverance: the conf file is ver well commented06:22
scottyhitmanWilly: What's the easiest way to backup my /home/scotty/ folder?06:22
stoneddeliverance: vsftpd is very excellent and easy to configure06:22
mankeletorInstall finishied, be right back guys... thanks for the support =)06:22
scottyI don't have a flash drive big enough.06:22
hitmanWillyscotty, cp it to an external drive06:22
scottyhitmanWilly: no external drive06:22
hitmanWillyscotty, or a DVD if its less than 4GB06:23
scottyhitmanWilly: old computer, no dvd burner06:23
imslow3ruse google for storage slow as hell though lol06:23
scottyIt's like 1.2gb ... not worth uploading06:23
hitmanWillyscotty, ugh, you may be borked then, at least you can put the really important files on a flash drive/cd06:23
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deliveranceI tried that it didn't set up any users.06:24
stoneddeliverance: read the documentation06:24
imslow3r1.2 gb is like the perfect amount to upload lol06:24
hitmanWillyscotty, and this time, you'll know to put /home on its own partition :)06:24
deliveranceOk thanks stoned, does anyone know a GUI based one?06:24
scottyhitmanWilly: How do I do that?06:24
hitmanWillyscotty, use manual partitioning on reinstall06:25
MarcCbam, found it...qtconfig-qt406:25
elite101is 32kbps dial up and good? i was going to get that its pretty fast?06:25
elite101like 4$ a month06:25
neusoncewhats the name of the fireall app in kubuntu?06:25
hitmanWillyelite101, that's S...L....O....W....06:26
elite101lol i know06:26
imslow3rgoogle the rtfm you assles06:26
elite101but sometimes thats allmy wireless can do!!!06:26
MarcCelite101: 32kbps is 4KB per second...typical dialup06:26
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elite10125mb in 2days06:26
hitmanWillyelite101, ive got 400k and that's almost too slow :)06:27
MarcC$4/month is about right, btw06:27
MarcCbut it should be unlimited, no time limit06:27
imslow3rget like 5 phone lines connected with a token ring ethernet06:27
MarcCelite101: which country do you live in?06:27
elite101the greatest country in the world06:27
MarcCI've got some maple syrup from there ;)06:28
imslow3rhell yeah our dollar is higher then the usa right now06:28
imslow3reat the loonie!06:28
elite101that means PSP IS GOING TO BE 159$06:28
MarcCmy neighbor gave it to me for watering her @#$@# plants06:28
hitmanWillyits just like the US, minus the poltical baggage :)06:28
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neusoncelucky, cable broadband in australia cant excede more than 200kb even though its  promoted as 15mgs06:29
stonedMarcC: haha, o yea o yea06:29
hitmanWillyelite101, you know how to make something canadian, right?06:29
neusoncei have a 300k plan and it wont go anyfaster than 54kbs06:29
hitmanWillyelite101, take something american and fsck it up...*ducks*06:29
stonedI have a 10mbit down and I usually go at about 1.0MB/s06:29
deliveranceIs there an easy way to set upa  quick ftp server.06:29
hitmanWillyelite101, j/k06:30
vbhidecould anybody help me with logitech usb speakers?06:30
stoneddeliverance: it would do you well to read06:30
deliveranceIt's an ftp server?! It's a shareware app! a 50 second install!06:31
dthackerdeliverance: read the nice package descriptions, they are important.....06:31
stoneddeliverance: seems like you're looking for a pointy clicky way out.  Sure, if you want to do just that, then have at it, but remember, true power of linux lies in knowledge.06:31
deliveranceWant to do it in windows? here go to cnet.com get serv-u.06:31
elite101i didnt get that duck tape?06:31
stoneddeliverance: read the vsftpd documentation06:31
elite101i know06:31
elite101how do u disable album art in wmp11?06:31
stoneddeliverance: if you can't be bothered to read how to setup an ftp server, maybe you shouldn't set one up06:31
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deliveranceOk I'm going I'm reading, but this isn't a skillset I care about... ftp setup. Some guy with win2k will say "this is a 2 second job"06:32
dthackervbhide:  I have never heard of USB speakers.   sorry06:32
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vbhideeven a lot of googling doesnt help!06:32
hitmanWillywhy would anybody even want USB speakers?06:33
imslow3ryeah the inventor should be shot in the face06:33
vbhideit was a gift06:33
hitmanWillyits just an extra layer of software for the sound to go through06:33
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dthackerhitmanWilly: because some PC's don't come with any other kind of connection06:34
hitmanWillydthacker, any pc with sound should at least have a headphone jack06:34
imslow3rwhat PC would that B?06:34
dthackerhitmanWilly: you would think.....06:34
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stonedyou could use usb speaker when you need sound amplified but can't provide power06:35
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stonedbattery or dc adapter06:35
dthackerimslow3r: the pwiw just got some Dell desktops.  No serial, no ps2, no parallel..  Just USB and ethernet06:35
stonedso you can draw power from usb and at least amplify the sound a bit06:35
hitmanWillyDell, there ya go...06:35
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stonedused mostly on laptops since the speakers suck and it needs to be portable06:35
stonedusb speakers are quite useful and better than headphones at most times06:36
stonedI think that is why people might want usb speakers hitmanWilly06:37
hitmanWillystoned, maybe...06:37
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imslow3rmanufactures should inclued fiber or sid/f coaxil on all computers06:38
stonedI think its time we developed optical cpus06:38
stonedthis increasing cpu heat and the cost for a good heatsink is retarded06:38
stonednot to mention the weight of the pc06:38
imslow3rthen implant it in your eye06:39
imslow3rlol jk06:39
imslow3ri joke...06:39
imslow3rthe eye is the closet connection to the brain06:40
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imslow3rthrough the optic nerbe06:40
stonedreality is defined not by vision, but by all our senses.  Modify your senses, and you can modify reality.06:40
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hitmanWillystoned, hence the nick :P06:41
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!06:41
imslow3ri disagree ubotu06:42
MarcCsweet, I'll bet kubuntu-offtopic is totally dead ;)06:42
hitmanWillyisn't it always :)06:42
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about awn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about chuck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:43
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firecrotchOkay, I just installed AWN and I'm having a few problems06:44
hitmanWilly!find awn06:44
ubotuFile awn found in afterstep, apparmor-profiles, ax25-tools, heartbeat-2, libace-doc (and 5 others)06:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jimmy_hoffa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:44
firecrotchAWN preferences won't work at all06:44
stonedthis bot doesn't know much does it06:44
MarcCwell, I've got a lead on Hoffa...it can't be that bad06:44
hitmanWilly!info AWN06:45
ubotuPackage awn does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas06:45
hitmanWilly!info awn06:45
inteliwaspdoes anyone have a guide on how to share internet access from 1 machine to a router?06:45
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LynourehitmanWilly: What's awn? (other than the bristle of barley)06:46
pagan0neim having a very intresting problem with adept.... it says that the apt database is in use, however its not, and dpkg-reconfigure -a doesnt help?06:46
firecrotchLynoure: Avant Window Navigator.  It's a dock utility, like in OS X06:47
hitmanWillyfirecrotch, k, gotcha06:47
MarcCdoes awn work in a non-composited environment?06:47
firecrotchMarcC: Nope06:47
imslow3rpagan0ne: try killing any processes in ps ?06:47
hitmanWillywas wodering myself :)06:47
inteliwasppagan0ne: run this in a console:  "ps -ef | grep adept"06:47
pagan0neimslow3r: yeah06:47
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hitmanWilly!aptfix | pagan0ne run the whole cmd06:48
ubotupagan0ne run the whole cmd: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 06:48
Lynourefirecrotch: oh, that. I think even it's website said it's unlikely to ever be finished... until the author thinks it's usable, it usually does not end up in even Debian06:48
firecrotchLynoure: Actually, it's supposedly very stable now06:49
Lynourefirecrotch: If you know it well, you could help hitmanWilly find it and get it?06:49
firecrotchLynoure:  I don't know it well at all. in fact, I just installed it, and it works, but I can't change any settings06:50
hitmanWillyLynoure, i was just looking to see if i could help firecrotch with it :P06:51
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hitmanWillyLynoure, but thanks for the thought :)06:51
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LynourehitmanWilly: Oh :)06:55
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firecrotchI was able to solve the problem... I can just edit settings with gconf-editor06:55
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imslow3ra gnome control app in kubuntu :-(06:56
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firecrotchimslow3r: Yeah, I know... it hurt to even have to type "sudo apt-get install gconf-editor"06:57
imslow3rwhen i'm a devloper i'll develop that out of existence06:58
imslow3rdevlopers devlopers devlopers devlopers06:59
imslow3rdevlopers devlopers devlopers devlopers07:00
kory_anyone have trouble installing KDE4 alpha 2 from backports?... I get errors when I get to 'kde4base' and 'kde4base-data', complaining about files already being in 'kdelibs5'07:00
labrat265anyone here know how to get k3b to burn apple lossless?07:00
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lordofthepigsHello! I've just installed compiz fusion, and everything works great.07:01
lordofthepigsI just have a question07:01
lordofthepigswhat's the <super> key?07:01
pagan0nelordofthepigs: windows key07:01
lordofthepigsHmm... then it doesn't work very well..07:01
imslow3rlordofthepigs: did you use a guide cus i wanna do the same , can you hand me the link?07:02
pagan0nelordofthepigs: do you have the part your tryung to use enabled07:02
lordofthepigsimslow3r: let me look in my history07:02
labrat265i just downloaded the medibuntu stuff and it did not help07:02
lordofthepigshmm... The guide I used said the things I'm trying should work out of the box07:03
imslow3rlink 4 tha guide plz07:03
lordofthepigsimslow3r: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481314&highlight=compiz+fusion07:03
lordofthepigspagan0ne: Where can I configure compiz?07:04
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pagan0nelordofthepigs: try compiz-settings at the console07:04
lordofthepigsimslow3r: make sure you read the thread once you followed the guide, they have a lot of troubleshooting info in there07:04
lordofthepigspagan0ne: I don't have that07:05
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pagan0nelordofthepigs: try ccsm07:05
labrat265is there a program that can convert apple lossless?07:05
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lordofthepigsOh... cool!07:06
lordofthepigsthanks pagan0ne!07:06
pagan0nelordofthepigs: np, for someone who doesnt know alot about compiz (me) i can sometimes be helpful...07:07
magpieno one here07:08
pagan0newere here07:08
magpieoh gread07:08
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DarkRamonhello everyone.... i need someone familiar with cedega07:10
DarkRamonpeople from cedega never answers me07:10
DarkRamonand i hae some issues with fifa 200507:10
pagan0neDarkRamon: i wouldnt say im fimiliar with it, but i used to use winex back in the day07:10
DarkRamonpagan? u do wicca or stregheria?07:10
gandhiiwhy can't I find a "copy file" command in the bash help or info listings?07:11
pagan0nei prefer not to ascribe to any "brand" however closly follor wicca07:11
DarkRamoncool :) i used to practice stregheria07:11
pagan0negandhii: its called cp07:11
Lynourehmmm, Adept just does not start now. No error, nothing. It muses for a bit and quits before asking for the password07:11
DarkRamonthe thing is that when I'm trying to run fifa 2005 with wine it loads the menus and everything but when the match starts, it shows me no players hahahahha they are all invisible07:12
pagan0neLynoure: try starting it from a console... sudo adept_manager07:12
DarkRamonif i try with cedega, the menus are blank... like white frames everywhere07:12
Lynourepagan0ne: doing that now07:13
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pagan0neDarkRamon: is the game supposed to be supported under winex now?07:13
gandhiireally weird how the man lists that info07:13
DarkRamonyeah... i found it somewhere... and asked the cedega people and they told me it should run fine since fifa 2006 runs too07:13
pagan0negandhii: man stands for manual, its simply a book on commands and how to use them, unless you know the command, man usually wont help much07:14
Lynourepagan0ne: with adept_updater, though, and kdesu07:14
gandhiiyea..  ironic07:14
gandhiithat last part07:14
pagan0neLynoure: any output? try plain sudo if it just hangs again07:14
Lynoureand my it is taking long to do anything at all07:14
pagan0neDarkRamon: well it is beyond me, however i wouldnt assume that because 06 worked that 05 would too...07:15
DarkRamonyeah... but07:15
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DarkRamonis there anyway to start the game using wine and forcing open gl?07:15
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Lynourepagan0ne: works with sudo, not with kdesu. Should work with both, I think, and adept_notifier launches it with kdesu, I bet. hmph, I wonder what ate my kdesu.07:16
DarkRamoni think it has to do with pixel shader or something but i tried to remove it and still didnt work07:16
pagan0neDarkRamon: well like i said im no expert, just played around with winex back in the day, so that would be a question for the wine people07:16
DarkRamonahhhhh ok07:16
DarkRamonand on winex what would you do if it happened?07:16
hitmanWillyLynoure, you could try a reinstall?07:16
pagan0neLynoure: i have the same problem occasionaly, sometimes it just works fine, im not a dev so i cant help with that, just have a temp workaround07:16
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pagan0nehitmanWilly: i hate the idea of having to reinstall over any little thing07:17
neusoncedose anybody  know a  way of downloading and installing java in the terminal ?07:17
hitmanWillywell, i have sudo (and therefore kdesu) disabled here07:17
pagan0neDarkRamon: well if i was running winex and that happend, i would assume the dev's hadnt included enough directx support yet for the game, as winex was very beta07:17
LynourehitmanWilly: not without stracing the daylight out of it07:17
DarkRamon:( ok07:18
hitmanWillyso not sure how much more help i'll be :)07:18
LynourehitmanWilly: I'm too curious to just reinstall without knowing what is wrong :)07:18
DarkRamonill see if i can try something else :P thanks anyways bro07:18
DarkRamonsee ya07:18
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pagan0negood luck07:18
hitmanWillyLynoure, maybe a config file got messed up somewhere along the line?07:18
LynoureI'll first try other kdesu things, to see if that goes the same way07:18
pagan0neLynoure: kdesu works fine for me on almost everything except anything todo with apt07:19
LynourehitmanWilly: I have not modified it... it should not just mess itself07:19
pagan0nethen its hit or miss07:19
Lynourepagan0ne: for me so far it has worked reliably every time07:19
hitmanWillyLynoure, if it ever crashed it might have07:19
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mimikcan you use the mount command to mount an iso file?07:19
hitmanWilly!iso | mimik yes you can07:20
ubotumimik yes you can: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.07:20
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neusoncedose anyone know how i can install a tor package ?07:21
LynourehitmanWilly: Do you know where it is? nothing in .kde/share/config for kdesu and man kdesu gives no location either07:21
joabwhat is a tor? Transcript of Records?07:22
hitmanWillyLynoure, nope, like I said, don't use it myself07:22
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hitmanWillythe only tor i know of is 'the onion router'07:22
pagan0neanyway, im out, good luck guts,thanks for the help07:22
Lustbladerhi every107:22
Lustbladeri'm on konversation07:23
hitmanWillyLynoure, sometimes info gives more info than man07:23
mimiktor? that anonymous surfer project thingy?07:23
elite101going to bed night07:23
hitmanWillyas far as i can tell, tor basically just routes through multiple proxies07:24
neusonceyes hit man thats it07:24
neusoncebut i think i found away07:25
gandhiiwhen testing display settings... and it goes into that grey screen with your pointer shaped like an "x"...  how do you exit out of that .. and go back to the desktop display?07:25
elite101u wont belive this conversation i had with this person over at ##windows so fake07:25
elite101i will show in the morining07:25
Lustbladerwindows has an irc room?07:26
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents07:26
hitmanWillygandhii, ctrl-alt-bksp07:26
Lynourereinstalling kdesu would be reinstalling kde-base, ugh.07:26
Lynoureoops, kdebase-bin07:26
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gandhiiI was searching through the help file.. and that section was all blank..   where am I suppose to be going to answer these basic type questions?07:27
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Lustbladerwho the hell said ctrl-alt-bkspace??07:28
Lustbladeru shoulda warned me before07:28
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crazy_buscan anyone tell me if the ubuntu apt-get mirror for australia is down. or if's just my computer that can't get any sources or files from it07:30
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LynourehitmanWilly: I just <3 strace. It seems the cause was a non-responsive kdesud07:30
Lustbladermaybe ur comp is already up to date07:31
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hitmanWillyLynoure, there ya go, the daemon crashed/locked07:32
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LynourehitmanWilly: killing it got it restarted and all 5 dialogues popped up07:33
hitmanWillysay what you want about linux, but it does make troubleshooting so much easier :)07:33
LynourehitmanWilly: the other things I'd say are not bad either =)07:34
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hitmanWillyLynoure, virus? what's that? :P07:35
hitmanWillyanyway, back on topic...07:36
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LynourehitmanWilly: confused me now...07:36
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hitmanWillyLynoure, nvm, my sense of humor is still in beta...07:36
LynourehitmanWilly: I'm totally sure that once Linux becomes truly mainstream, viruses will start arriving07:36
underdog5004crazy_bus, I heard it was down earlier today07:36
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crazy_busany idea when it will come back online?07:37
hitmanWillyLynoure, eventually there will be some, but I have a feeling the amount/effectiveness will be somewhat reduced07:37
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LynourehitmanWilly: I'm eagerly waiting to find out :)07:38
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ubuntu_I had a RAID 5 array over 4 250GB disks (/dev/sd[b,c,d,e] ) managed with mdadm. And i've had to reinstall Linux. I've loaded a Kubuntu 7.04 CD and installed mdadm in the Live CD, but it shows md0 as just useing 3 of the disks. It mounts, and I can accsess data, but /proc/mdstat does not show sdb as part of the array. trying to assamble the array manualy just says that it's only useing 3 out of 4 devices and again, doesn't show /dev/sdb. Can anyone please07:39
ubuntu_Sorry for the mini-flood07:39
hitmanWillyLynoure, the problem is that for a virus to be truly effective under linux, it needs root, and that's something that unix like systems don't give away easily\07:39
hitmanWillyLynoure, that's also why I think sudo is a massive security issue waiting to happen, but that's another issue :)07:40
underdog5004although you can run many viruses in linux with wine...07:40
underdog5004ha ha07:40
LynourehitmanWilly: That's a known fact07:41
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underdog5004hitmanWilly, there was talk about a hacker replacing the sudo binary with another custom binary to gain root access07:41
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Lynoureunderdog5004: does not even need to be a custom binary07:41
underdog5004or...putting in an altered copy in a different path07:41
ubuntu_Can anyone help?07:41
hitmanWillyunderdog5004, he wouldn't even need to do that07:41
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underdog5004how would he do it?07:42
Lynoureunderdog5004: you just need a script that relays to sudo and passes on the password in the process07:42
underdog5004but that will catch someone even if they do su, wouldn't it?07:42
Lynoureunderdog5004: Ubuntu is nice and even adds the script to the path for you =)07:42
hitmanWillyjust change /etc/sudoers to allow his compromised acct access would work as well07:42
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Lynoureunderdog5004: sudo, not su07:42
underdog5004no, I know07:42
hitmanWillyunderdog5004, su works differently07:42
underdog5004so, it's better to not use sudo?07:43
Admiral_Chicagoits advised to use sudo underdog500407:43
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Lynoureunderdog5004: it's better not to run code you don't trust07:43
Admiral_Chicagosudo has an experation date07:43
hitmanWillyunderdog5004, imho, yes, its a bad idea, but that's just me07:43
Admiral_Chicagoubuntu_: you need the alternate cd07:43
underdog5004Admiral_Chicago, why?07:43
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Admiral_Chicagounderdog5004: if you walk away from a computer that did sudo, 15 minutes later you have to re-enter the password07:44
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Admiral_Chicagoso sudo >> 15 minutes >> sudo.  its more secure than being logged in as root07:44
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Lynoureunderdog5004: Currently quite many users are very happygolucky when it comes to installing anything that might be cool, and will run just about anything to get their game/toy installed07:45
hitmanWillyall it would take is for someone to compromise, say, the binary nvidia drivers07:45
ubuntu_Admiral_Chicago: I tried that, Same problem.07:46
underdog5004gotcha, Lynoure07:46
underdog5004 which is why OSS is good, right?07:46
hitmanWillyor find a hole in them07:46
hitmanWillyunderdog5004, yes, that's one of the reasons07:46
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underdog5004heading to bed now...it's about 11 at night...good night everyone07:47
Admiral_Chicagoubuntu_: hmm, thats an odd problem, sorry i don't mess with multiple HDDs. I don't have an answer07:47
ubuntu_Admiral_Chicago: Okay, thanks anyway.07:48
hitmanWillyim actually considering setting up a decoy box in a vm and forwarding all the default ports over to it07:48
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hitmanWillyor at least the more common ones07:49
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hitmanWillysee what i catch :)07:50
bijunhow to enable my 5 button mouse07:51
bijuni want the extra 2 buttons to be "back " n foreward"07:51
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hitmanWillybijun, try here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto07:53
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pacman_I'm having problems getting DVD's to play with Mplayer08:03
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Yz85RacerOk, can someone, please, help me? I'm on Kubuntus live cd, but i need to get to my windows drive, but when i restart to get to it, it says "Loading GRUB stage1.5." then "error 22"08:03
Yz85Racerand I need to get to it, it has all my school work, etc08:03
Lustbladertried removing the live cd n then trying?08:03
Lustbladerwhat do u get then?08:04
Yz85Raceri just put the live cd in just then to ask for help08:04
Yz85Racersame thiong08:04
Yz85Racer"Loading GRUB stage1.5." then "error 22"08:04
redshadowherohey, can anyone help me get dolphin installed? I tried doing "sudo apt-get install dolphin" but it said that it was unable to lock the administration directory.08:04
robotgeekhttp://www.uruk.org/orig-grub/errors.html Yz85Racer08:04
robotgeekredshadowhero: you have adept or something running. You ran it as sudo, right?08:05
redshadowheroyeah, you are right...08:05
redshadowheronow its working.08:05
LustbladerYou need to get your windows bootloader installed again08:05
Yz85Racer22 : "Must load Multiboot kernel before modules"08:05
Yz85Racer This error is returned if the module load command is used before loading a Multiboot kernel. It only makes sense in this case anyway, as GRUB has no idea how to communicate the presence of location of such modules to a non-Multiboot-aware kernel.08:05
Yz85RacerHow do I do that LustBlader?08:05
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LustbladerBoot your XP CD,08:06
Lustblader go to its "recovery console"08:06
Lustbladerand run fixmbr08:07
Lustbladeri think08:07
Yz85Racerthat it?08:07
Yz85Racerrighto, ill try08:07
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AscendedDanielI can't seem to get my network settings to stick08:09
wolferineAscendedDaniel, why is that?08:09
AscendedDanielI am not quite sure08:10
AscendedDanielI right-click on the network settings manager in the bottom panel08:11
wolferineAscendedDaniel, well, suprising, a few more details might enlighten ppl who want to help :)08:11
AscendedDanielI click "Configure Device" and set it to a manual IP ending in .2208:11
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wolferinemanual IP?08:11
AscendedDanieland when I click "apply" it changes back to .11908:11
AscendedDanielyes, manual08:11
wolferineso your trying to set a static IP ?08:11
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wolferinewell, good luck with that08:12
wolferinenite ppl08:12
AscendedDanielI'll try a few things08:12
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AscendedDaniel_ok, I figured out my network problem08:23
AscendedDaniel_turns out rebooting is good thing to do when switching from dhcp to static08:24
bijuni've got a .tar.gx file for firefox08:24
bijunhow to run it?08:24
AscendedDaniel_bijun: you need to unpack it and probably run make && make install08:26
AscendedDaniel_I've never done it from source before08:26
bijunevery time i do it08:26
bijunit says error in the archive08:27
bijuneven when i download it off windows n cart it to linux08:27
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AscendedDaniel_bijun: have you tried sudo apt-get install firefox?08:27
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AscendedDaniel_might be easier08:28
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Lusbladerbut am already apt get08:29
Lusbladerrunning apt get08:29
Lusbladerto update quite a lot of stuff08:30
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AscendedDaniel_how do I kick my other nick?08:32
Lusbladerjust wait for it to time out08:32
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AscendedDaniel_well, good luck with the install, Lusblader08:33
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AscendedDaniel_It's bedtime for me08:33
Lusbladerit's lunch time here08:34
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Lusbladersee ya man08:34
AscendedDaniel_ah, living in the future I see08:34
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W1ZrDAre there some available codecs I can use when I need to create my own .avi files?08:36
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Lusbladerwhat exactly do u have in mind?08:38
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W1ZrDBasically it is for tutorials regarding an fps game, Open Arena, it writes the output file to .avi08:40
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Lustbladerwhat format are the output files in now??08:41
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W1ZrDfrom a 'in-game' format called .dm_68 -> .avi but the .avi files does not get converted properly at the moment08:42
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W1ZrDthere is a built in video capture for that specific game (http://ioquake3.org/?page=help) but seems like it's missing some codec when it writes the files08:43
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Lustbladerso what's bad in the video now??08:43
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W1ZrDlooks like green/yellow/red squares and sluggish frame-rate, just as if there were no codecs when trying to watch it or something08:44
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el_isma(K)Ubuntu's default shell is dash, but when you logon you get bash. I want to get zsh instead, what should I change?08:44
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W1ZrDso I don't know if it's written through the engines codecing, or if it is simply that I can't view it due to lack of codec on my machine08:45
Lustbladerwhy don u use a screen capture program08:45
Lustbladern then convert?08:45
W1ZrDthey don't support openGL :/08:45
Lustbladerit's kludge solution i know08:45
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W1ZrDA forum member tried Camtasia studio or something like that and didn't work at all08:46
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lordofthepigsHello! I have installed compiz fusion, and now, I want to use the RingSwitcher as my default window switcher.08:47
lordofthepigsWhen I press Alt+Tab08:47
lordofthepigsbut it seems I can't set Alt+Tab from ccsm08:47
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W1ZrDit seems as if the engine is writing the files when I check, it says: Wrote 619:0 frames to filename.avi but the result is what it is :)08:48
Lustbladertry someother screen capture program08:49
W1ZrDdo we have any gpl:ed ones around?08:49
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W1ZrDn1, thank's I'll look in to it :)08:51
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dotzhi i'm using the kubuntu cd for powermac to boot my mac laptop in hoping to mount the harddisk to retrieve some data.. i'm in the busybox but couldn't mount the /dev/hda9 .. anyone knows the parameters?08:54
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prophezy_hi there09:01
prophezy_howr you?09:01
prophezy_anyone online?09:01
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prophezy_do anyone know, whats thediffrent installation between Ubuntu & Kubuntu?09:02
se7enofninethe k09:03
prophezy_thats the diffrent between the names09:03
joey_He has a point though.09:04
Lustbladerkubuntu = ubuntu+ kde desktop enviornment09:04
Lustbladerapproximately :-p09:04
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joey_Come on we all know kunbuntu is better right!?09:04
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Lustbladeri wouldn't agree09:05
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espireI pop it in, choose rip, and then the ripping fails.09:05
Lustblader%gives espire a knife%09:05
prophezy_yes, why i ask is ... i used Ubuntu in first place and my wine and photoshop instalation went perfect, but when i changed to Kubuntu, it hangs when i installing photoshop in the same way as i installed it in Ubuntu?09:06
espireI'd use it, but I want my music in MP3 form first09:06
lordofthepigsYeah, I know a difference QTParted crashes, when it sees too many NTFS partitions, while GParted doesnt :)09:06
Lustbladersame archive prohexy?09:06
lordofthepigsAnyway, is there a lower level configuration editor than ccsm for compiz?09:06
prophezy_yes Lustblader09:07
Lustbladerdownload em espire09:07
lordofthepigsI can't set Alt+Tab as an action key in ccsm09:07
Lustbladerprophezy_: strange09:07
lordofthepigsIs there an equivalent of gconf_editor for kde?09:07
prophezy_Lustblader yes, the installation went to 99% and hangs09:08
Lustbladerlordofthepigs: nano?09:08
Lustbladerkde is wierd at times09:08
lordofthepigssure, where are the files I have to edit?09:08
Lustbladerwhat do u wanna do?09:08
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lordofthepigsI want to set Alt+Tab as a shortcut for the RingSwitcher of Compiz09:09
lordofthepigswhich I can't do from the compiz settings manager09:09
lordofthepigsIt seems that compiz doesn't keep its setting in a regular file09:10
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prophezy_Lustblader do you know what this means : The central directory was not found in the archive?09:11
prophezy_this comes up now when i trying to install the DW 809:12
Lustbladermeans the archive is corrupt09:12
Lustbladeror not the right one09:12
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Lustblader lordofthepigs http://sonique6784.blogspot.com/2006/05/gset-compiz-tool-to-configure-compiz.html09:12
Lustbladertry that09:12
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prophezy_Lustblader: how can i fix the archive?09:13
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Lustbladerfixing an archive is darn hard09:13
prophezy_any idea? reinstall?09:14
Lustbladerdownload again09:14
Lustbladerthen try09:14
prophezy_download what?09:14
Lustbladerthe archive09:14
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prophezy_oh i didnt know that, the archive can be ownload, from where can i download it?09:15
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momalJust wondering if anyone has set up 5.1 sound under kubuntu? I set it up and added some things into asound file in ~/ seems it all works but the front speaker no sound comes from the other 4 + sub work fine. Anyone have suggestions on what to try/do to help you know th eproblem09:16
prophezy_momal : sorry im new in Kubuntu ;)09:16
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lordofthepigsstupid china, blogspot is blocked!!09:18
Lustbladeruse www.stupidcensorship.com09:18
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robotgeekmomal: if you use amarok/kaffeine, you might just be able to set the output to 5.109:19
robotgeekmomal: Settings -> Configure Amarok -> Engine -> Speaker Arrangement09:20
momalrobotgeek: Yea that is set but still nothing from middle speaker :(.. The speaker does work when i changed it's plug around and i tried it under windows and it worked fine.09:20
robotgeekmomal: i also recommend installing Alsamixergui , it has a list of all the controls for your speakers09:20
momalrobotgeek: Yup have that as well and set everything up and not muted :)09:21
robotgeekmomal: well, the least i can do is post my .asoundrc09:21
lordofthepigsLustblader: Already have Tor :)09:21
momalrobotgeek: yea try post that and if its different i'll set it to yours and try :)09:22
robotgeekmomal: http://rafb.net/p/Il2ytR43.html09:22
robotgeekmomal: i'm heading off to bed, take a look at the alsa wiki, i guess09:24
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lordofthepigsOk, I just found out that netbeans gives me a blank window when using compiz09:24
momalrobotgeek: ahh ok thanks anyhow will try that thne look further on the net if still wont work09:24
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lordofthepigsand that there was a fix in Java 6 update 109:24
lordofthepigshow can I update my java version without waiting for gutsy?09:24
lordofthepigsor can I point apt to the gutsy repository only for sun-java packages?09:26
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dotzis ubuntu base on gnome?09:28
Lustbladerby fellaz09:28
Lustbladerlunch time here09:28
yaroudoes anyone know how i can set hw:1,1 as my default sound card?09:29
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busfahrerAnybody else got the update for BIND in Adept Updater?09:36
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jenny_I have a question09:36
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jenny_never used konversation before so i dont know if i am allowed to just ask or what09:37
prophezy_Jenny just ask :)09:38
KNROdon't ask to ask!09:38
jenny_whats a .rar09:38
yarouit's a compression format09:38
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jenny_how do you open it09:38
prophezy_with 7z09:39
jenny_whats that09:39
se7enofninesudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree09:39
prophezy_a  program to open, rar, zip and so on09:39
lordofthepigshow can I use Gusty's java6 packages in feisty?09:39
jenny_i have to download that from the web huh09:40
yaroujust open up a terminal09:40
prophezy_Jenny no need to download it, you can install it from the add/remove if you havent done it09:40
yarouand type what se7enofnine said09:40
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jenny_it said Package unrar-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package.09:42
jenny_Package unrar-nonfree has no installation candidate09:42
se7enofnineunrar should do09:42
yarouanyone know why kde4base-dev crashes dpkg?09:43
se7enofninesudo apt-get install unrar09:43
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lordofthepigsseems feisty-backports might be a solution09:44
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jenny_so basically this is just a rm of ppl getn help?09:44
yaroualready enabled in my apt sources file09:44
se7enofninejenny does unrar work?09:45
prophezy_Jenny you can get help and make friends ;)09:45
jenny_it said it installed, gonna try to open the file09:45
se7enofnineshould open with ark now09:45
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prophezy_Jenny after chattin a couple of times you may have blind date :P09:46
jenny_really? cool ;)09:46
jenny_hm still didnt wk09:46
yaroui'm a girl too, sometimes09:47
jenny_it looks right but didnt play09:47
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prophezy_lolz @ yarou09:47
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prophezy_now my Photoshop is in function !09:48
prophezy_bad bad bad archive, payin with me like that :P09:49
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jenny_is there somethin else im supposed to be doin to make it play09:50
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se7enofninejenny extract the files and (play them)09:51
yarouhmm, i wonder how long Qt takes to compile09:51
jenny_i'm not sure how to extract files (red faced)09:52
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mataharii have some problems at the installation of kubuntu feisty.09:52
prophezy_Jenny you still cant open rar files?09:53
matahariThe Installer hangs up all the time at 85% when he installs openoffice.org-java-common09:53
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yaroumaybe the fairies will help09:53
jenny_shakes head no09:53
mataharii'm using the alternate cd09:53
se7enofninematahari: i had the same problem09:54
prophezy_Jenny : haved you tried to reinstall the 7z in add/remove programs09:54
mataharise7enofnine: what did you do?09:54
se7enofninejust wait09:54
se7enofnineit takes 10 15 min09:54
pagjenny_, do you have unrar installed?09:54
mataharise7enofnine: it will continue? okay!09:54
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jenny_im still tryin to get the hang of this thing cause I just switched from Windows.09:54
se7enofninematahari:  what version09:55
yarouuse ark09:55
pagjenny_, enable multiverse (if you haven already done so) and install unrar via Adept09:55
pag!multiverse | jenny_09:55
ubotujenny_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu09:55
jenny_wow all these things ive never even heard of before09:55
mataharise7enofnine: it's just strange that it takes so long time....09:56
prophezy_Jenny it will comes...just learn alittle day by day ;)09:56
jenny_yeah i learned the other day about -rm files ;)09:56
se7enofninematahari: i started 3 times burned 2 cds ... because i thought something is wrong ...09:56
prophezy_good girl :P09:57
mataharise7enofnine: me too!09:57
mataharise7enofnine: i already exchanged the  CPU cooler, because i thought it was a heat-problem09:57
prophezy_aya my torrent download is only 1.8 Mb ! :(09:58
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se7enofninematahari: are you installing gutsy tribe3?09:58
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mataharise7enofnine: no, feisty09:58
yaroushitty kde409:58
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jenny_so now i need to enable somethin called multiverse? then dont apt-get install but use Adept to do what again? this better be a good movie thats all i gotta say09:58
prophezy_lolz @ Jenny ;)09:59
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se7enofninejenny on what version are you feisty has multiverse enabled09:59
jenny_how do i enable multiverse when i dont know what or where it is?09:59
pagjenny_, See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu09:59
jenny_pretty sure they said feisty09:59
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mataharianother thing: it is strange, that on feisty teh standby mode for laptops doesn't work anymore. On edgy it worked without problems....10:00
pagjenny_, you of cource can use apt-get too, I just thought you would be more confortable with GUI-tool10:00
mataharii have a compaq evo n410c10:00
prophezy_pag .. Jenny is very new in all Ubuntus ;)10:01
jenny_i'm not sure what that is either (surprise surprise) good grief i've become a computer illiterate overnight10:01
prophezy_you hae to explain what Gui-tools and all that stuff is  (i think ) :P10:01
jenny_lookin at the info10:02
prophezy_Jenny you just playin with us.. i think you are the Linux Guru :P10:02
prophezy_or Ubuntus Gur10:02
pagprophezy_, There's no problem for me in expalaining, since our dear ubotu has links to instructions with screenshots :)10:03
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prophezy_pag aha.. i didn c that  ;)10:03
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yaroukde is telling me that eth0 is disconnected10:06
yaroubut i'm here10:06
jenny_read the words but my eyes started to cross and i felt my brain fizzle out10:06
jenny_i think i broke my ability to think for the night so i'll work on that tomorrow10:07
jenny_with a lot of coffee10:07
prophezy_yarou, becasue you lookin at the mirror now, and reflects to this channel :P10:07
prophezy_lolz @ Jenny10:07
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prophezy_poor lady ;)10:08
yaroubroken piece of crap10:08
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jenny_found a button to register but that lead to more reading so i stopped10:10
jenny_dang there are a lot of steps to do things10:11
jenny_at least finding this was easy!10:11
yarouwelcome to Linux10:11
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arunhello peopl10:13
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jenny_is it only complicated at first?10:14
arunjenny_: what is?10:14
prophezy_Jenny yes ;)10:14
jenny_oh thank goodness10:14
prophezy_everything is complicated first10:14
pagjenny_, as soon as you get used to all this, it'll be far easier than Windows :)10:14
arunwhat are you talking about10:14
jenny_arun, just switched and still leanin the basics10:15
prophezy_arun her age :P10:15
arunhad any problems yet?10:15
prophezy_*just kidding*10:15
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prophezy_Jenny are you fmiliar with Linux?10:16
jenny_not a bit10:16
arunjenny_: had any problems with kubuntu yet?10:16
jenny_arun, oh yeah10:16
arunsuch as?10:16
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prophezy_she cant open the rar file10:16
yaroukde4 is broken10:16
yarouthat's what10:16
pagyarou, it's supposed to be broken - it's alpha ;)10:16
yaroui'm better of just compiling from trunk10:17
yarouwait 3 days until Qt is compiled, bahaha10:17
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jenny_ok i think my brains done for the night10:18
jenny_*yawns* mornin whatever10:18
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prophezy_Jenny night???10:18
kanpachii'm new to kubuntu, can anyone please tell me how to get to that kde wizard where i can disable some effects please?10:18
prophezy_iits 10 am here :P10:18
yarou4 AM10:18
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pagprophezy_, people are living on differet timezones ;)10:18
prophezy_lolz @ pag10:19
jenny_1:18am here in San Diego10:19
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kanpachi11:19 am here :)10:19
prophezy_san diego10:19
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kanpachican anyone please tell me how to get to the kde wizard in kubuntu?10:19
jenny_where the heck are you that its 10am10:19
kanpachii can't find it on the control panel10:19
se7enofnineIt's Wednesday, July 25, 2007, at 3:19 PM in Asia/Bangkok10:19
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pagjenny_, Central Europe?10:20
capcomwhat do you mean with kde wizard? which effects do you want to disable?10:20
prophezy_I use Euro10:20
kanpachiwell, i used to use ubuntu, and then i installed the kubuntu-desktop package10:20
prophezy_Kubuntu Euro10:20
kanpachiand when i booted kde for the first time, it popped up a wizard asking me a bunch of questions10:20
kanpachilike how many effects i wanna use in the kde desktop etc...10:21
jenny_thanks guys, see y'all again soon10:21
kanpachinow i installed kubuntu from the kubuntu cd, and i can't find that option :(10:21
prophezy_Jenny sweet dreams of Kubuntu10:21
busfahrerkanpachi: Run kpersonalizer10:21
kanpachican't find that command busfahrer :(10:22
kanpachirun command won't recognize it10:22
wabbitafter not touching linux since 02-03 maybe even 2000 this is a really nice dist10:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kpersonalizer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:22
arunmy computer's become a bit sluggish over the past 2 days10:23
arunanything i can do to speed it up?10:23
prophezy_arun by new one??? :P10:23
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kanpachioh, and another thing please, where can i change the the way it konq opens files with one mouse click? i want it to use two clicks, like gnome does10:24
kanpachii search the konq settings, but couldn't find it :(10:24
wabbitbtw anybody cant help with a really retarted question, since i cant find the answer TT10:24
pagkanpachi, kcontrol -> Peripherals -> mouse10:25
capcomkanpachi: i think this setting is made in kcontrol, where you set the mouse behavior10:25
yaroui don't need kde410:25
yaroui'll just install ion310:25
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matahariwhat can i do, when my TFT displays the message "Mode not supported" under Feisty?10:25
kanpachiwhere is kcontrol?10:25
mataharise7enofnine: the install just went fine!10:25
pagkanpachi, alt+f2 and type kcontrol10:25
kanpachii can't find it sorry :(10:25
kanpachioh there! thanx guys :)10:26
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se7enofninematahari: :)10:26
wabbitwhen i download torrent how do you get it to stop using bittorrent and use a diffrent installed client?10:26
capcomin the k-menu there is an entry called system settings or something like that. there can these settings also be made10:26
mataharise7enofnine: just my TFT won't display anthing - get the message "Mode not supported"10:26
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se7enofninecan you get a command line matahari10:28
mataharise7enofnine: no10:28
mataharii will boot in rescue mode10:28
mataharimaybe there i can get one10:28
wabbithow are file associations defined if anybody dont mind with my retarted question :)10:29
mataharise7enofnine: i have a command line now10:29
pagwabbit, kcontrol -> KDE components -> file associations10:29
prophezy_oki my dear friends, me have to restart my little computer to feed her with more battery, or it she will be mad ;)10:29
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se7enofninematahari: cat /etc/X11/xorg.config      and see what driver you use10:30
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mataharise7enofnine: i810 driver10:31
kanpachithanx for all your help guys :)10:31
kanpachii found kpersonalizer, i had to install it from the repos10:31
se7enofninematahari: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:32
mataharise7enofnine: thanks10:32
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kanpachihave a nice day, i'm off :)10:32
kanpachioh just one last question10:32
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kanpachii have an nvidia geforce 4 mx, and i understand that it's a legacy driver right? will the restricted drivers install the nvidia-glx or the nvidia-glx-legacy for me? since the other time it installed the nvidia-glx one10:33
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lordofthepigsI can't find out how to update my Java version from 6 to 6update210:42
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shuktyhi  every1 some1 can lend me a hand to conf my guarddog ?10:42
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frodehello there... think i need some help here...been using MS since the 80's and want to look at linux... how do i install progs on Linux?10:47
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frodewould like to install wine on kubuntu10:48
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vzduch!wine | frode10:48
ubotufrode: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.10:48
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matahariis it possible, that 2 users use tha same KMAIL application with the same mailaccounts?10:55
pagmatahari, sure... just take care of permissions, and use symlinks  (this is just a wild guess - I won't guarantee that it'll work, but it should)10:56
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matahariwould it work when i link the .kmail directory from one user to the directory from the other user?10:57
pagmatahari, iirc there's no such directory as .kmail... I guess it's ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail  but as I said; I haven't tried it, so I don't know the exact way.10:58
mataharipag: okay10:58
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kerrichi all11:24
kerriccan anyone help me with knetwork manager - i cant see wireless network, but other wifi manager is working correct11:25
kerriccan any one help ?11:25
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Sbucathi to see hide file in ubuntu was ctrl+h and in kubuntu?11:28
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kerricls -al :D11:29
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pagSbucat, no default shortcut set - you can set it yourself in settings -> configure shortcuts11:30
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ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de11:30
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Sbucatpag: =) thanks man11:31
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Sbucatkerric: thanks =)11:32
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srednaRiddell: now, i just can't run anything at all. for example, attempting to run konsole, with LD_LIBRARY_PATH set to /usr/lib/kde4/lib, i get this: dolphin: error while loading shared libraries: libkparts.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory11:37
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Riddellsredna: and is there such a file?11:42
scottyThis is annoying. Everytime I tell Amarok to install mp3 support it freezes up.11:44
srednaRiddell: i would think it should link to libkparts.so.5 (in /usr/lib/kde4/lib)11:44
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pagscotty, do you have all repos enabled?11:46
scottyI think so. Fresh install, though, I'll go check11:47
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scottyAh, the multiverse was commented out.11:48
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ghanhatwhy can't Kubuntu installation install grub where the hell I wanna install it?11:50
ghanhatI wanna install /boot on a second hard drive11:50
ghanhatthen grub won't get installed11:50
ghanhatwhy does this shit happen?11:50
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MaTiAzghanhat: Use the alternate install CD?11:50
ghanhatis wasting my time for real11:50
ghanhatI have that one11:50
stdinghanhat: both the live install and alternate install can install grub where ever you want11:51
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ghanhatone time I tried to install just GRUB on /boot and you know the configuration and it did a re-install of the WHOLE fsking system on top of my up to date installation11:52
ghanhatI was AGHAST11:52
ghanhatGentoo is so simple I can install Grub anytime I want any fucking where I want to11:52
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ghanhatstdin: it didn't do da shit11:52
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.11:53
stdinghanhat: with the live install there is an "advanced" button and (IIRC) a link in the last screen before the install11:53
ghanhatbut I am a lil pissed now11:53
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ghanhatit's being a few days is screwed up a few beautiful installations11:53
stdinghanhat: lets you install grub where ever you want, like hd0,011:53
ghanhatwhat button?11:53
stdinghanhat: I believe it's called "Advanced"11:54
ghanhatI am using Alternate CD there are no buttons11:54
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stdinghanhat: on the alternate cd it's different11:54
ghanhatyeah 'cause I am using LVM, that's why I am using Alternate11:54
stdinghanhat: I haven't used it in a while, you may have to change the debconf priority. but I remember that installing grub is the last step11:55
ghanhatit is the last step, one time I try to install grub and it did a reinstallation on top of my brand new up to date installation11:56
ghanhatthat was a disaster11:56
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ghanhatoh my gawd11:57
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stdinghanhat: AFAIK, when you setup the partitions you just make a separate /boot and then install grub normally (to hd0)11:58
ghanhatgrub kept saying "CAN'T install hd0,0 NO @%$^, is not there is on the second hard drive the /boot partition11:58
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noaxess_kubuntuhi all11:59
ghanhatok I will try this again11:59
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stdinghanhat: then hd1 will probably be it11:59
Xjshello, I mean11:59
Xjsand wrong channel, sorry11:59
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noaxess_kubuntuhow can i automaticly clena unused/old kernel images and entries in grub's menu.lst?11:59
noaxess_kubuntuis there a frontend or over terminal?11:59
stdinnoaxess_kubuntu: just use adept to remove the old linux-image-(VERSION) packages, that's all you need to do12:00
noaxess_kubuntustdin: okey.. .)12:00
noaxess_kubuntuthere is also no setting to remove eg. the oldest kernels and keep only the newest and the next.. you know what i mean :)12:03
stdinnoaxess_kubuntu: not really, it's due to the way the kernel versions are packages, the system "sees" them as separate packages, not related to eachother12:04
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noaxess_kubuntuhm.. then i need also remove the older linux-headers... manually over adept..12:04
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stdinnoaxess_kubuntu: yeah, but you should only get a few kernel updates per prelease12:07
stdin* release12:07
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crubeI'm using Konqueror but it annoys me that the bookmarks toolbar is shown when I'm browsing files aswell. ;S Is there a way to make it only show in web browsing12:12
stdinyou can close the tab at any time12:12
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MakarHello everyone! :)12:28
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ico_86pozz svima12:30
ico_86kako setovati adsl na kubuntu12:30
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aliehei hallo all12:33
Lustbladerhi alie12:33
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arunI installed LAMP on my computer, but now I've forgotten my passwords, etc12:34
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withow do i add a repository if i dont know its exact location ? is there a list some where that i am missing ?12:34
arunany way i can recover my phpmyadmin passwords and stuff?12:35
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Lustblader<-- has no idea bout php12:35
stdinwit: what repository ?12:35
stdinarun: anything about that on the LAMP help paga?12:35
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)12:35
arunstdin: I tried a random user/pass and it worked.. but I'd like to know if there's any way to create new database users using phpmyadmin?12:36
arunor do i have to do it from the terminal12:36
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stdinI don't know, haven't worked on lamp in ages12:37
ico_86how to set adsl connection on kubuntu feisty fawn 7.0412:37
arunstdin: are you a programmer?12:37
witstdin: i wish to get mp3 decoders , and i thought i couldnt getit from the main repositories cuz it aint opensource, so i was hoping to just add one or more that might have something on it12:37
stdinarun: only learning12:37
stdinwit: that's what multiverse is for12:38
arunstdin: me too. what languages are you learning12:38
stdinarun: C++12:38
witoh ok, so is it there by default ?12:38
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mess - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xmess - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:28
mumifcan someone help me?04:28
ERIK_LIMAGuys, anyone know how to play Turbo Grafx 16 on Kxmame??04:28
WhtWolfTeraDyne!ask | mumif04:29
ubotumumif: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:29
ERIK_LIMAI'm trying configurating it, but I can't play PC Engine games04:29
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(mumif/#kubuntu) How do I install Phyton?04:32
(mumif/#kubuntu) there04:32
(runlevelten/#kubuntu) phyton or python?04:32
(lewix/#kubuntu) hi04:32
(lewix/#kubuntu) stdin, hi how are you doing04:32
(mumif/#kubuntu) no idea lol04:32
(mumif/#kubuntu) you know what I mean04:33
BluesKajhowdy all :)04:33
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mumifprobably python04:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:33
bldzrmumif: 'apt-get install python'04:33
runleveltenIf python, it'll be installed by default.04:33
dr_willis!info python04:33
ubotupython: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.5.1-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 137 kB, installed size 600 kB04:33
mumifoh it's python04:33
mumiflol i had a typo04:33
mumifok tnx guys =)04:34
sha384sumsorry guys, was messing with the fstab, am rebooting04:34
BluesKajhmm interesting the info prefix actally makes the bot do a proper search04:34
mumifhm... it says I have the newest version04:34
runleveltenNo I assumed it probably was, but you never know, and duff advice sucks :)04:34
mumifok, which libs should I d/l for SuperKaramba?04:35
mumifdoes anyone know04:35
runleveltensudo apt-get install superkaramba04:35
mumifhm ok...04:35
dr_willisThe Joy of apt.  :)04:36
BluesKajmumif, open adept and install superkaramba and it will install the proper dependencies as well04:36
mumifoh guys thanks so much =)04:36
BluesKajor apt or synaptic04:36
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mumifapt it is =)04:36
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runleveltenno probs mumif :D04:36
mallizehey guys.  do i need an additional package to use amarok visualizations?  other than what is packaged in kubuntu?  i have the libvisual lib04:37
mumifI was using Ubuntu before but still KDE has that linux feel04:37
mumifoh yeah, how to upgrade amarok to play mp3 files via shell?04:37
BluesKajit is linux :)04:37
mumifif it's possible, of course04:37
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dr_willisfeel :)04:37
WhtWolfTeraDynemallize: You shouldn't need anything that isn't in by default for the visualizations.04:38
mumifit installed04:38
dr_willisI always forget the package name for amarok. I think its mentioned in the Kubuntu web page FAQ page.04:38
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mumifbut it should be sudo apt-get upgrade amarok?04:38
mallizei'm new to amarok, do you have to dl visualizations?04:38
mumifwhere amarok is the package name04:38
WhtWolfTeraDynemumif: "sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg" will install the MP3 support for amarok.04:38
mallizeor are there some by default04:38
mumifok thanks04:38
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WhtWolfTeraDyne!info libxine1-ffmpeg04:39
ubotulibxine1-ffmpeg: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.4-2ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 1534 kB, installed size 3692 kB04:39
mumifit says it cannot find it04:39
Lupociao a tutti04:39
mumifoh this is a 1 not l04:39
WhtWolfTeraDynemumif: You may not have the other repositories enabled.04:39
WhtWolfTeraDynemumif: Yes, the number 1.04:40
WhtWolfTeraDyne!it | Lupo04:40
ubotuLupo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!04:40
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Lupoc' qualcuno che parla italiano ?04:40
lewixstdin, Can I get the latest verison of aircrack for kubuntu04:40
runleveltenmumif: are you comfy with /etc/apt/sources.list or do you prefer a gui?04:40
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:40
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dr_willislewix,  for the 'latest' you may have to use the source.04:41
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dr_willis!info aircrack04:41
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ubotuaircrack: wireless WEP/WPA cracking utilities (transitional package). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.6.2-7ubuntu1.1 (feisty), package size 9 kB, installed size 48 kB04:41
BluesKajamarok 1.4.6 is available butnot int he repos ...I don't think04:41
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mumifrunlevelten, i dunno what you are talking about xD04:41
lewixdr_willis, that's what I have 0.604:41
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mumifoh, another question04:41
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runleveltenright, then I suggest you use synaptic, which is a nice graphical package management app.04:42
runleveltenYou want to enable the universe repositories, methinks04:42
dr_willislewix,  if theres a newer one, you will either have to go find the package somewhere, or use the source04:42
mumifhow do I disable the konqueror to open theme manager files with kate?04:42
elite101hey that synaptic can i downlad styles witht that and install them?04:42
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runleveltenyou can use kcontrol  kde components  file associations, or you can right click, choose "open with" and choose an app (checking 'always use this app' if you want to change the setting itself04:43
lewixdr_willis, can it be unstable04:44
dr_williselite101,  there are a great many KDE themes/styles/iconsets and other theme parts in the repos not installed by default.04:44
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dr_willislewix,  no idea. Kubuntu/ubuntu dosent try to stay 'cutting edge current' it does a 'new release every 6 mo' way to stay current.04:44
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elite101but is there an app so its easyer it will delete and add the style for u?04:44
runleveltentbh though, I just use superkaramba's theme manager.04:44
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dr_williselite101,  the theme manager can add/remove them IF you download them from someplace.. OR use the package manager to install/remove them from the repos.04:45
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bensesup d00dz04:49
mumifhow to install firefox here :\?04:49
mumifon Kubuntu?04:49
pagmumif, sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox04:49
pagmumif, write (or copy) that in konsole04:50
NightBirdor open up adept, type in firefox, and pick the correct package :P04:50
mumifok ok04:51
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mumifand one last question04:51
mumifhow do i run the theme manager =)?04:51
elite101lol has anyone ever just installed all the apps on adept befor?04:51
elite101just for fun so they have everything?04:51
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elite101im about to do that04:51
NightBirdelite101: uh... have fun04:51
elite101300gb later04:51
BluesKajnever heard of that , elite10104:51
elite101so many things to install......04:52
elite101but i love adept04:52
BluesKajonly if you will use them04:52
elite101all your programs are rite there (some of them!)04:52
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BluesKajdon't install stuff you won't use04:52
mumifhow do i run the theme manager? anyone :(?04:52
elite101what is a shell?04:52
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mumifa console program... something like a command line04:53
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BluesKajthe terminal/konsole is a shell04:53
mumif!ask theme manager04:53
pagmumif, kcontrol -> Appearance -> theme manager ?04:53
elite101can somone direct me to ubuntu studios?04:53
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy04:53
elite101the channel04:53
ubotuubuntustudio is a site for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best parts of Audio/Graphical/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories, and extra! Available at http://www.ubuntustudio.com. Or visit #ubuntustudio.04:53
savetheWorldthe terminal/konsole is a terminal emulation program, which is often (but not always ) used to run a shell.04:53
aliciahi my name is lou lou04:54
savetheWorldinteracive run shells are where all *NIX command line (cli) work is done.04:54
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aliciawhy ssave the world04:54
mumifwhere is Kcontrol? :\04:55
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mumif(im not on english Kubuntu)04:55
savetheWorldNote - Note all instances of shells are interactive.  For example at system booot time shells are used to run the init scripts.04:55
elite101lmao stupid windows users:  d1ce, I don't really see Linux being that much harder to manage other then the fact that the end user has no clue how to use it04:55
pagmumif, nowhere in the menus; press alt+f2 and type kcontrol04:55
savetheWorldheh typo "Not all instances of shells are interactive"04:56
aliciahi elite10104:56
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mumifuhuh... k thanks04:56
aliciaone of the only good things about windows is msn04:56
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washingtonalguien que me pueda ayudar?????04:57
BluesKajsavetheWorld, lets be practical here , we don't need info that new users won't be looking at for a while :)04:57
aliciahello elo elo im pc plod04:57
elite101hey? do i know u?04:57
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pag!es | washington04:57
ubotuwashington: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:57
savetheWorldBluesKaj: There are only new user's here?04:58
BluesKajalicia, let's speak english , not textish04:58
aliciaoh yeah as if i am a new user i know about how to make bombs04:58
aliciaonly joking04:58
elite101why joke about that?04:58
aliciai dont know04:59
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:59
elite101this better not be a fake convo again i swear!!!!!!!!!04:59
aliciasorry back to the topic04:59
elite101that mad me so mad04:59
aliciaeveryone makes mistakes05:00
BluesKajfake convo05:00
elite101u wouldnt believe yesterday in the windows chat] 05:00
aliciahow do you get your name a different colour05:00
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elite101about this girl who needed help with ehr printer05:00
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elite101it was a girl and for some reason this one just sayed hi elite???? im going to wonder again05:01
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GrahamAelite101: What the hell is a fake convo?05:04
GrahamAHow can you fake a convo?05:04
elite101okay there is this txt i copyd and pasted it05:04
elite101go to offtopic05:04
elite101plz i willexplain05:04
GrahamADoes anybody here need help?05:05
WhtWolfTeraDyneGrahamA: Using multipule IRC clients and nicks to talk to yourself??05:05
GrahamAWhtWolfTeraDyne: But that's just sad...05:05
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elite101listen this girl was talking about she got a new computer05:05
elite101she got a rpinter05:05
elite101and we were helping her (or i was lol got it to work too)05:06
elite101she was onwindows05:06
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elite101well she sayed her boyfriend was getting the cord***** was getting it05:06
elite101so we asked her to plug it in05:06
elite101she did???05:06
GrahamAI would know that's bullshit straight off the bat05:06
GrahamAGirls aren't on IRC.05:06
atrocityis there any way to make xmms play music when i double-click it in File Browser instead of Movie Player?05:07
elite101okay so after from 1:02am i asked can u print out www.google.com and at 1:02am she sayed it worked it prinbted05:07
elite101the same time o.005:07
elite101thats impossiable05:07
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vzduchGrahamA: I know some05:07
GrahamAatrocity: Open with > choose xmms > set it as default application05:07
elite101anyways she said there was an agent at bestbuy saying she need anti-virus and he had a badge !!! a badge o.005:08
GrahamAgirls don't mix with technology.05:08
elite101she said he was officer or something jordan05:08
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elite101yeah but this was so fake05:08
GrahamAIf they did, I'd probably hve a chance of getting some in my lifetime.05:08
elite101like ppl in the room thought i was appart of it05:08
WhtWolfTeraDyneelite101: Geek Squad members do carry badges.05:08
elite101then she said she met her boyfriend on eharmoney?05:08
atrocityGrahamA: that's waht i was doing to get them to play in xmms, but there's no option to set it as default app :/05:08
GrahamAYes there is.05:09
runleveltenGrahamA: That's garbage, with respect.05:09
elite101lol we where making fun of geek squad when she said it05:09
elite101she said random things and things worked?? way to fast i thought it was a test05:09
elite101for the channel05:09
runleveltenAnyway. wtf?05:09
elite101is wow this too much05:09
GrahamAOr lag.05:09
elite101and then she signed off real quik05:09
elite101it was weird05:10
GrahamArunlevelten: What's garbage?05:10
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atrocityGrahamA: I found it.  you have to right-click it, go to properties, and it it under the "Open With" tab05:10
runleveltenI'd be happy to talk about """<GrahamA> girls don't mix with technology.""" with you in ot :)05:10
elite101i asked them if it seem fishy they said it was too and now this girl alicia says hey elite101 i told the other girl yesterday i was on linux??no its going to happen again05:10
GrahamAatrocity: I know, that's what I said.05:11
GrahamAHave fun05:11
atrocityoh, lol, i thought you said, right click it, then go to open with...not properties first05:11
atrocityeither way, thanks!05:11
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elite101i swear that alicia chick is jami_Jackson o.0 going to start another rediculous convo05:12
GrahamAelite101: Why didn't you pass along the infamouse windows deltree command?05:12
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elite101im not an avid windows vista user05:12
elite101so i told her i was on linux05:12
elite101she's like ohh05:12
elite101a 14yr old on linux05:12
GrahamAShe knew what Linux was?05:12
elite101she nows what it is but yet cant work a printer05:12
elite101like wtf05:12
GrahamAAnd you STILL think it's a girl?05:12
elite101she wouldnt let her boyfriend use the computer05:13
NightBirdone: this seems fairly off topic05:13
elite101they way she aked she's like i dont want my son to get on any twiddles and hoho's????? o.005:13
GrahamADoes anybody here need assistance?05:13
NightBirdb: There are girls that are good with computers05:13
GrahamANightBird: Prove it.05:13
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elite101yeah some arent the britest but she new05:13
elite101about linux and now today?05:13
elite101the alicia girl says hi elite101???05:14
NightBirdGrahamA: Several of my friends in college were good CS majors and female05:14
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runleveltenGrahamA: There are lots of female geeks all the way along the spectrum.05:14
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elite101i have some stuff she said copy'd down i asked my friend if it looked fake he agredd with me lmao05:14
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runleveltenMy other half is a nix geek, she is decidedly female :)05:15
GrahamAI'm not implying all girls are rubbish at computers, I'm just saying majority don't have a fucking clue.05:15
elite101like wow i coundlt believe it05:15
GrahamArunlevelten: I'd like to meet one.05:15
BluesKajyes, lots of 'em , but they're the worst "know it all geeks "...worse than the male know it alls , cuz they feel they must constantly prove themselves05:15
elite101well they prob dont care when u say that05:15
PriceChild!offtopic | GrahamA elite101 BluesKaj05:15
ubotuGrahamA elite101 BluesKaj: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!05:15
elite101alicia, you know the channel ##windows??05:16
runleveltenThe difference being that while most guys don't have a clue, they all believe they're Linux Torvalds the second they can use a non-standard client on "yahoo chat" or whatever.05:16
GrahamADoes anybody here need any assistance with any Kubuntu realted problems?05:16
elite101any one need help on something?05:16
runlevelten*Linus, heh05:16
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BluesKajc'mon PriceChild , it's slow in here right now :)05:16
GrahamAIf not, I shall continue this discussion.05:16
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PriceChildBluesKaj, GrahamA Does not make a difference, please move it to an offtopic channel.05:16
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elite101why did u kick him?05:17
runleveltenPossibly the 640k of off-topic chatter elite101.05:18
PriceChildelite101, I would advise that you cease the offtopic chatter...05:18
stdinbecause he was ignoring the rules05:18
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elite101yeah okay05:18
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stdinelite101: "[16:16]  <GrahamA> If not, I shall continue this discussion."  <- not good to disrespect the opps :)05:19
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elite101un ban him plz05:21
geniidid sha384sum get his alternating SCSI devicename issue resolved?05:21
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atrocitythere we go05:21
stdinelite101: that's up to the opps, best place to ask is in #ubuntu-ops05:22
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Riddellelite101: he made an exceedingly sexist comment05:22
stdinand swore, both are no-no's05:23
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BluesKajI installed apache2 , thinking i'd use it , and i thought that i had uninstalled it , but I see it's still running in system services... what gives?05:24
atrocitygod i hate wireless05:24
nodeserthow can i mount USB stick05:24
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stdinBluesKaj: check that you removed it? "apt-cache policy apache2"05:24
stdinnodesert: didn't it automount?05:25
stdindid you see any dialog box?05:25
nodesertstdin: no05:26
stdinhas it been formatted/partitioned yet?05:26
nodesertmy cd-rom is automounted05:26
BluesKajthx stdin, it was still installed , so used adept05:26
runleveltenYeah, apologies for taking up on that, but I have a partner who's a geek, and a few daughters. I can't brook that garbage. Anyway, back on-topic.05:26
webershi all05:26
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webersany one how to install real player 10.0 in kubuntu 7.0405:26
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nodesertstdin:USB stick is working i think i have to mount manually05:27
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stdinwebers: look at the media pages05:27
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stdin!realplayer | webers05:27
ubotuwebers: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:27
webersI looked at it but every time I try, an error message appears.05:28
stdinnodesert: open konsole, type in "dmesg | tail" it should show you the device name, something like "sdb"05:28
stdinwebers: what error?05:28
geniiwebers The content of the error message may help enlighten05:29
weberspackage not found05:29
stdindid you follow/read the whole guide05:29
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stdinit tells you how to get the right repositories05:29
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webersI enabiled all repositories, like univers, multiverse05:30
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geniiwork, AFK05:30
stdinwebers: no, read it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods you need other repos05:31
BluesKajhi jenny_05:31
webers(Couldn't find package realplay) that's the messaage05:31
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jenny_My sister sent me a picture thats .3g2 but i have never heard of that file extension05:32
webersthanx stdin for helping.05:33
stdinwebers: sure :)05:33
PriceChildjenny_, that sounds like a video file to me... from a phone05:33
jhutchins_ltI think that's an iPod format.05:33
jenny_I think so05:34
stdinmpeg4 then05:34
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jenny_Not sure what program to open it with05:34
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geniiyes, 3g2 is a nokia type media format05:34
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jhutchins_ltlooks like ffmpeg can handle it.05:34
stdintry renaming it to a .mp4 extention05:34
jhutchins_ltWhich means that mplayer should as well.05:34
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stdin(probably just mpeg4)05:35
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spinikerhello room05:36
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stdinjenny_: fmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder05:37
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stdinjenny_: I'd bet the 3g2 files is an mp4 file in disguise, see if renaming the extention05:37
spinikerhello jenny05:38
jenny_it didnt give me me the option of renaming it so i saved it to see if i could rename it once it was saved05:38
BluesKajhi spiniker05:38
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jenny_mornin spin05:38
spinikerhello blues05:38
pagjenny_, do you have codecs installed yet?05:39
jenny_not sure05:39
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spinikerjenny mind if i ask a question?05:39
jenny_seems only fair as many questions as i've been askin05:40
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spinikerim having problems with theme manger05:40
pagspiniker, please be more specific ;) what kind of problems?05:41
jenny_points to one of the smart people05:41
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spinikerim not able to change it..it says i have to log in as administrator mode..05:41
spinikerhow do i do it05:41
PazyWill anything bad happen if i uninstall Grub from adept then reinstall?05:41
spinikerim using kubuntu05:41
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pagspiniker, theme manager or kdm theme manager?05:41
spinikerkdm theme manager..05:42
runleveltentry opening it in mplayer.05:42
mumificpjetao!ask KDM05:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ask kdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:42
runleveltenoopsy, was scrolled up again, haha05:42
pagspiniker, oh.. it really does need the root acces.. there should be 'Admin. mode' -button somewhere05:42
BluesKajPazy , what are you trying to do? ...you can edit grub05:42
runleveltendpkg-reconfigure grub?05:43
spinikeryeah i see it..but im not able to access it05:43
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PazyIm trying to get grub to boot my WInXP as well but i cant get the entry right, im hoping a reinstall will make it retry since in my last install it work after install05:43
pagspiniker, huh? how come?05:43
runleveltenor update-grub?05:43
spinikerits not higlighted..05:43
stdinspiniker: needs to be ran as root, run "kdesu kcontrol"05:43
pagPazy, pastebin your menu.lst and ask someone to make necessary changes05:43
BluesKajPazy, kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst in the run command box05:44
spinikerok..wait ill try..05:44
stdin!paste | Pazy05:44
ubotuPazy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:44
pag!paste | Pazy05:44
Pazywhats kdesu? i keep trying sudo05:44
pagPazy, kdesu is sudo for graphical apps.05:45
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kaminixHow do I add that the mimetype .x264 should open with Kaffeine?05:45
PazyDoes sudo not work on graphical apps?05:45
spinikerok thanks its working now..05:45
stdin!kdesu | Pazy05:45
ubotuPazy: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo05:45
spinikerur a lifesaver05:45
martijnkaminix: settings in konqueror05:45
jenny_yeay it works, oh ugh its just a picture of her kids05:45
PazyCrap ive probably mucked up my permissions and configs then05:45
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kaminixJust Konquerer -> Tools -> Settings? Thanks.05:46
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BluesKajPazy, alt+f2, kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst05:46
jhutchins_ltkaminix: Right click on a local file and choose the app to open it with.  You should have a checkbox to remember the association.  This only works with local files, not URL's.05:46
pagPazy, it *can* muck them up.. just don't use sudo GUIapp anymore and hope for the best05:46
stdinPazy: "can" doesn't me that it always "will"05:46
runleveltenPazy: it didn't work when chainloading from hd(1,0)05:46
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jhutchins_ltjenny_: Which worked, renaming it?05:47
PazyTrue runlevelten05:47
Pazyhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31251/           my menu.lst for grub05:47
runleveltenlook in /boot/grub/device.map - is the windows disk hd1?05:47
martijnkaminix: something like that (i have Dutch version), and then tab file associations05:47
jenny_now to figure out this registration thing and then back to tryin to figure out why my .rar video isnt playin, one thing at a time05:48
vzduchto the dvd::rip users: for technical reasons I ripped the single chapters of a DVD.. can I combine these for transcoding to get 1 .avi or .ogm file?05:48
spinikerhey pag thanks05:48
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pagrunlevelten, wouldn't it be easier just map the HD's in the bootoption itself?05:48
pagspiniker, no prblem at all :)05:48
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spinikershould i be log in as root evrytime i try to change it?05:48
BluesKajPazy, what are you attempting to do in grub ...you haven't mentioned it. ?05:49
pagspiniker, don't *log* in as a root... just use kdesu05:49
PazyWinXP (Profesional)05:49
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PazyDevice.map is bare (hd0)/dev/sda05:49
PazyWill i manually add the windows stuff?05:49
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spinikerok thanks05:50
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spinikerill try to remember that05:50
PazyI feel a little bit sinful for using hotmail on windows lol05:50
Pazy*linux :D05:51
jhutchins_ltjenny_: Usually you have to decompress .rar files to play them.05:51
PazyI cant spell today it seems05:51
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runleveltenPazy: which would give a hint as to why last night's setting didn't work, heh05:52
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pagPazy, that'll work, but that's a pretty hacky one, wait and see, if runlevelten provides a better one ;) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31253/05:53
BluesKajpazy , see where it says example with the windows settings, remove the # in front of the lines down to chainloader...also where it says #hiddenmenu...remove the # there as well05:53
PazyDown to and including chainloader?05:54
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pagBluesKaj, there's a problem with mapping devices, not the structure of boot option itself05:54
PazyThere is no # at hidden menu already05:55
mumificpjetaowhat is the name of the Java runtime enviroment package?05:55
jenny_i dont understand this registration info one bit05:55
spinikerei pag,pardon..05:55
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jenny_it went from compu-jargon to greek05:55
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mumificpjetao!ask java05:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ask java - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:56
pagjenny_, what registration? :O05:56
pag!java | mumificpjetao05:56
ubotumumificpjetao: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.05:56
spinikershould i extract everything first before i install theme?05:56
jenny_to send private msgs05:56
BluesKajPazy, sorry i mean add a # at hiddenmenu ...it's like a double negative actaully what it's doing is 'showmenu '  :)05:56
mumificpjetaohm,,, if I can't sue adept, then I do it via terminal?05:56
runleveltenPazy: Did you install this disk after installing grub?05:56
pagspiniker, which theme are you trying to install? you have a link?05:57
jhutchins_ltjenny_: /msg nickserv register <password>05:57
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Pazyno it was already in05:57
pagmumificpjetao, terminal, yes; sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jer05:57
runleveltenand dpkg-reconfigure grub and update-grub don't do anything, right?05:57
pagjre that is05:57
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pagstdin, sorry, typo.05:58
BluesKajPazy, just making sure05:58
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PazyI was talkin to runlevelten, lol didnt add name:05:58
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jhutchins_ltmumificpjetao: sudo apt-get install or sudo aptitude install, yes, in a console.05:58
BluesKajok Pazy , I'll back off ..too many cooks etc...05:59
spinikeri downloaded them on kde.org05:59
mumificpjetaoguys I dunno how could I get this far without you =) thanks a bunch06:00
PazyI just remembered my exact disk situation when installing kubuntu, I had both in and it took ages (left it for ~2 hours) at the partition screen so i resetted and removed sata and it worked in 30 seconds. I added Sata back in while i resetted after install./06:00
jenny_jhutch, i dont know what that means. is that what i type somewhere?06:00
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Pazyrunlevelten: Should i add an entry of my C:\ to device.map06:00
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pagPazy, try the solution I offered you earlier - it might work06:00
runleveltenright, and did you sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub and sudo update-grub since then?06:01
jhutchins_ltjenny_: Yeah, pretty much anywhere - just send it like a regular post.06:01
pagjenny_, just a hint; use tab to autocomplete nicks ;)06:01
runleveltenand nothing happened?06:01
jhutchins_ltjenny_: If you begin a line with /, irc assumes you're trying to send a command.06:01
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jenny_a post? huh? no idea what you are talkin about06:01
jenny_in terminal or?06:02
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jhutchins_ltjenny_: when you /msg someone, the following text only goes to that person.06:02
jhutchins_ltjenny_: In this case, nickserv, which is a bot that handles registrations.06:02
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jhutchins_ltjenny_: You probably have a window that shows the MOTD from the server, that's where you'll see any response to the command.06:02
jenny_whats MOTD?06:02
jhutchins_ltjenny_: Right in the irc window, where you type normal chat messages.06:02
jhutchins_ltMessage Of The Day06:03
jhutchins_lt/motd will display it again.06:03
jhutchins_lt(You can generate your own MOTD for console logins if that amuses you.)06:03
jenny_so i type /motd into the same line i am typin in now?06:03
PazySorry was afk talkin to mun06:03
jhutchins_ltjenny_: Yes, but the message should appear in the server window.06:04
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jhutchins_ltjenny_: So most people switch to that window first.06:04
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jenny_i have a server window? i just clicked on the konversation listed from applications06:04
Pazyrunlevelten: I tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub  it said Password (And i entered it) then said   paul@paul-kubuntu  then i typed sudo update-grub and it said same as it always did06:05
jhutchins_ltjenny_: There should be a tab labeled "Freenode" - that's the server window.06:05
runleveltenPazy: but it didn't work?06:06
jenny_when i went to the thing that said freenode and typed /motd it said  The file or folder file:///motd does not exist.06:06
jhutchins_lt[11:08]  [263]  MOTD Server load is temporarily too heavy. Please wait a while and try again.06:08
jhutchins_lt[11:08]  [MOTD]  End of message of the day06:08
Pazyrunlevelten: it didnt add any new entried (like winxp)06:08
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vzduchto the dvd::rip users: for technical reasons I ripped the single chapters of a DVD.. can I combine these for transcoding to get 1 .avi or .ogm file?06:08
jhutchins_ltjenny_: Anyway, try /msg nickserv register <password> there, see what happens.06:08

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