[12:19] <Mr_Sonoma> alright fellas how do i change my default desktop environment
[12:19] <Mr_Sonoma> ?
[12:20] <NickPresta> Mr_Sonoma, you wish to switch from KDE to Gnome/XFCE/fluxbox/etc?
[12:21] <Mr_Sonoma> yes i have Gnome,KDE,xfce all loaded. when when i loaded Gnome and XFCE it somehow changed the default from kde to XFCE so when i select default login under the witch session type screen it goes to XFCE no matter what the previous was....i'd like for the default selection to be KDE again.
[12:25] <NickPresta> Mr_Sonoma, in the menu list (when you login) there should be an option for the different DEs.
[12:26] <NickPresta> The sessions list should present all installed window managers
[12:27] <Mr_Sonoma> uh hu thats where im talking about, see the options are there KDE, Beryl, XFCE, Gnome, and Default, now selecting the one i want isnt the issue its when i choose the "default" selection. it chooses XFCE not really a big deal but it changed from KDE to XFCE during the install. there has to be a way to change that back i was wondering if you or anyone knew how.
[12:28] <Mr_Sonoma> see its just an oddity, im still sifting through google searches to see if i can find any info on it. but thought i'd ask in the mean time too.
[12:32] <arekanderu> Could somebody help me? I'm looking for a paint program (Like MS Paint on Windows..) for my Kubuntu
[12:33] <NickPresta> arekanderu, Krita is similar (it feels similar) but it much more powerful. Give it a try.
[12:33] <Theory> arekanderu: kolourpaint ?
[12:33] <Theory> that's probably the closest to ms paint
[12:33] <arekanderu> NickPresta: How do I get Krita?
[12:33] <arekanderu> Theory: How do I get that?
[12:33] <Theory> arekanderu: use adept to install it
[12:33] <mnemonicE2> hi
[12:33] <arekanderu> Theory: Tyvm :)
[12:34] <NickPresta> arekanderu, if you're used to using Adept, you can search for it (kolourpaint or krita) there. Otherwise, you can use the command line: sudo apt-get install krita
[12:34] <arekanderu> NickPresta: Ty alot man :D
[12:34] <mnemonicE2> Why kubuntu is less stable than ubuntu and nagg me with many error messages ??
[12:34] <neusonce> whats the command to navigate to a directory .....?
[12:34] <ekrengel> !vnc
[12:34] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[12:35] <mnemonicE2> I repeat : Why kubuntu is less stable than ubuntu and nagg me with many error messages ??
[12:36] <runlevelten> neusonce: cd
[12:36] <ekrengel> does anyone have vnc configured correctly?  I need some help setting it up...
[12:37] <NickPresta> mnemonicE2, what problems are you having? My Kubuntu installation has yet to "nagg me with many error messages".
[12:39] <mnemonicE2> i don't find the same quality of ubuntu
[12:39] <neusonce> grrrr im trying to navigate to a folder in desktop .....im sleep deprived and  wont get to sleep untill iv finished this
[12:40] <neusonce> help
[12:40] <mnemonicE2> I starting the system i find some errors
[12:40] <mnemonicE2> but I don't remember them now
[12:40] <imslow3r> anyone want to help me with my bluetooth keyboard look at my new thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=508847
[12:41] <neusonce> where are you agent 137, only you can hlep me in my noobness
[12:41] <mnemonicE2> and sometime all the system hang up
[12:41] <mnemonicE2> KDE error !
[12:47] <NickPresta> There is something very strange about the xfce4 package. *sigh*
[12:47] <persen_> wow, where are the standard linux games?
[12:47] <persen_> aint they included in feisty?
[12:47] <NickPresta> persen, what do you mean?
[12:48] <crimsun> what's strange about the xfce4 binary package?
[12:48] <NickPresta> persen, there is the 'kdegames' package which includes all standard kde games
[12:48] <persen_> but it aint included by default? thats good
[12:49] <BluesKaj> persen_, no one has to install it
[12:49] <NickPresta> crimsun, for some reason, it never works for me. I install the xfce4 meta-package and I logout. i select XFCE from my sessions menu and the login hangs. I switch to terminal and kill the session and start kdm. all is well.i use beryl + xgl and I switch to XFCE and suddenly no applications will open. I switch back to KDE/Beryl and applications start.
[12:50] <BluesKaj> err sorry persen_ you have to install kdegames
[12:50] <crimsun> xfce4 is deprecated; you shouldn't be using it.
[12:51] <NickPresta> crimsun, really? I searched for "xfce desktop" and that was the only 'package' that came up. I assume I should be using the xubuntu-desktop metapackage, correct?
[12:52] <neusonce> Knaptic Package Manager  where can i find this ?
[12:54] <crimsun> NickPresta: that's bad kdm/gdm interaction, not Xfce's IIRC
[12:55] <NickPresta> crimsun, okay. What do you suggest? I want XFCE but I don't want the xubuntu-desktop. I don't need all the extra applications and I don't want to filter them out after the install.
[12:55] <crimsun> just use kdm normall.
[12:55] <crimsun> normally.
[12:55] <crimsun> dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[12:56] <crimsun> (or dpkg-reconfigure gdm, and just select kdm)
[12:56] <BluesKaj> neusonce, do you mean synaptic?
[12:57] <elite101> hey if  i burn a ISO to a cd that already has files to it that are non boot will the cd still boot up? for dsl
[12:58] <rogue780> how do I access the restricted driver manager in kubuntu?
[12:58] <elite101> even thou it has some notepad files and stuff
[12:59] <jazzrabbit> kubuntu-es
[12:59] <Dragnslcr> I don't think you can burn an iso image to a disc that isn't blank
[12:59] <BluesKaj> !es
[12:59] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:00] <rogue780> anyone?
[01:01] <vzduch> rogue780: Alt-F2  kdesu restricted-manager
[01:01] <neusonce> where can i find Knaptic Package Manager ?
[01:01] <ice9> HELLO FRIENDS
[01:01] <neusonce> i looked
[01:01] <neusonce> and i can not find
[01:02] <BluesKaj> !restricted
[01:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:02] <elite101> how do i burn an iso just copy it to the cd drive and write files (using xp to do this)
[01:02] <Biovore> no
[01:02] <NickPresta> rogue780, `sudo restricted-manager`
[01:02] <NickPresta> rogue780, if you dont have it installed, `sudo apt-get install restricted-manager`
[01:02] <Biovore> elite101: iso is a disk image.. it contains the filesystem for the CD.. you burn it as an image..
[01:02] <vzduch> neusonce: kynaptic is nowhere to be found
[01:03] <jazzrabbit> Excuse me. I Have a problem with beryl... i don't know how can i restore de defaults option's because i don't have the windows borders. Sorry for my english
[01:03] <rogue780> NickPresta,  thanks
[01:03] <neusonce> i need to get to synaptic manger for kubuntu
[01:03] <BluesKaj> knaptic is old school pkg management , basically replaced by adept in kde
[01:03] <jazzrabbit> i Speak spanish, i try to speak with the people conected in the spanish channel but no one answer to me
[01:03] <NickPresta> neusonce, `sudo apt-get install synaptic`
[01:03] <elite101> i know what an iso is i just wondering i burn the iso to cd
[01:04] <vzduch> neusonce: then install synaptic
[01:04] <Dragnslcr> elite101- http://www.cdburnerxp.se/ is a free CD burning tool
[01:04] <elite101> i know i can just use windows normal cd burner
[01:04] <elite101> or wait no
[01:04] <elite101> i mean nero
[01:04] <neusonce> yes i can get in to adept but what i can install is very limited
[01:04] <Silent_G> hello, im trying to view avi files but they aint playing good, the sound really sucks, is there something i should install?
[01:04] <neusonce> most of it i cant even install
[01:04] <Dragnslcr> I don't think the builtin CD burning in XP can't do iso images
[01:05] <Dragnslcr> Nero can, if you have it
[01:05] <elite101> yeah
[01:05] <Dragnslcr> CDBurnerXP can as well
[01:05] <elite101> im going to the library and do it
[01:05] <vzduch> neusonce: if so, then either your sources.list is b0rked, or it's PEBKAC
[01:05] <elite101> lol the library
[01:05] <Dragnslcr> (That's what I used to burn my original Kubuntu DVD)
[01:05] <martijn> hi, i want to buy me a PDA. Is there any palm to avoid? I want to use it with KPilot i suppose....
[01:05] <jazzrabbit> to view avi files you need install gstream, i think that is the answe for your problem
[01:06] <neusonce> well vzdutch i just installed kubuntu after being on ubuntu for a week
[01:06] <Silent_G> ok dude thankz
[01:06] <neusonce>  my linux knowlegeis limited
[01:06] <vzduch> !info synaptic
[01:06] <ubotu> synaptic: Graphical package manager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.57.11.1ubuntu14 (feisty), package size 1279 kB, installed size 5836 kB
[01:06] <neusonce> !PEBKAC
[01:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pebkac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:06] <vzduch> so you should be able to install that
[01:06] <vzduch>  sudo apt-get install synaptic
[01:07] <jazzrabbit> "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get install sinaptyc"
[01:07] <BluesKaj> neusonce, check your sources.list , make sure the restricted debs aren't commented (# in fornt of the deb)
[01:07] <rogue780> how do I make programs automatically start when I log in?
[01:07] <Silent_G> jazzrabbit, there are alot of gstreamer packages, which one?  gstreamer-alsa?
[01:08] <chcampb> Hello.
[01:08] <neusonce> Reading package lists... Done
[01:08] <jazzrabbit> put this in the console "sudo apt-get install gstreamer"
[01:08] <neusonce> Building dependency tree
[01:08] <neusonce> Reading state information... Done
[01:08] <neusonce> Package synaptic is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:08] <neusonce> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:08] <neusonce> is only available from another source
[01:08] <neusonce> E: Package synaptic has no installation candidate
[01:08] <Silent_G> ok
[01:09] <jazzrabbit> if that doesn't work install all packages with that name
[01:09] <jazzrabbit> I think alsa is for sound
[01:09] <BluesKaj> neusonce, alt+f2 then type 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list'
[01:09] <jazzrabbit> but i'm not yure
[01:09] <NickPresta> rogue780, you can symlink the application to ~/.kde/Autostart. Otherwise, you can use create a script in /etc/init.d/ (and then run `update-rc.d`)
[01:09] <neusonce> ok get back to you soon
[01:09] <chcampb> I hope this isn't too off-topic, but I can't find anywhere else to ask... if a computer's specs do not specifically say DDR SDRAM, i.e just says DDR, is it still compatible with a motherboard that is currently using DDR SDRAM? or is it DRAM unless it says otherwise?
[01:10] <martijn> chcampb: probably just the same
[01:10] <jazzrabbit> I can't fix beryl :'( I Want steves jobs help :(
[01:10] <chcampb> so a computer uses SDRAM unless it says otherwise?
[01:11] <jazzrabbit> lol
[01:11] <grul> steve
[01:11] <chcampb> steve jobs will laugh at your tears :'(
[01:11] <martijn> chcampb: yup, that or ddr2
[01:11] <jazzrabbit> i know he will
[01:12] <jazzrabbit> T_T
[01:12] <chcampb> no, ddr2 is supposed to replace DDR SDRAM, and the two arent compatible.... at least that is what the article I read said. wikipedia says that DDR SDRAM = DDR2 but i'm going to trust the editorial
[01:12] <chcampb> what is wrong with beryl btw?
[01:12] <jazzrabbit> i have no borders in the windows
[01:12] <martijn> chcampb: i know, but those two are in the market right now i mean.
[01:12] <chcampb> oh
[01:13] <chcampb> thats easy, jazzrabbit: just hit alt+f2 and type emerald, then press enter
[01:13] <jazzrabbit> :(
[01:13] <chcampb> beryl does the cool graphics, and emerald is for the window borders
[01:13] <chcampb> i see, thanks martijn
[01:13] <jazzrabbit> thanks
[01:13] <chcampb> did it work jazz?
[01:13] <jazzrabbit> give me a second
[01:13] <chcampb> ok
[01:13] <Biovore> jazzrabbit: make sure your running in 24bit color..  beryl does the no windows borders thing if the video mode is set wrong..
[01:13] <jazzrabbit> :O
[01:14] <chcampb> it works?
[01:14] <jazzrabbit> maybe it's that
[01:14] <chcampb> yeah, he would probably know better than me :p
[01:14] <chcampb> alright, thanks for the advice
[01:15] <neusonce> ok iv opened up sources.list in kate and nothings there....
[01:15] <vzduch> impossible.. you sure you typed the path and name right?
[01:15] <MaTiAz> btw, does webcam in MSN work fine in Kopete?
[01:15] <neusonce> yes
[01:15] <neusonce> i can do it again
[01:15] <neusonce> i will
[01:16] <vzduch> it has to read /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:16] <jazzrabbit> emerald
[01:16] <vzduch> copy and paste that :)
[01:16] <BluesKaj> !source-o-matic | neusonce
[01:16] <ubotu> neusonce: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:16] <Theory> MaTiAz: viewing works fine, i've not tried broadcast
[01:16] <jazzrabbit> doesn't work
[01:16] <jazzrabbit> And know i dont have window borders:(
[01:16] <jazzrabbit> T_T
[01:17] <neusonce> yes
[01:17] <neusonce> theres nothing there...
[01:17] <redshadowhero> window borders? are we talking about beryl?
[01:17] <jazzrabbit> yes
[01:17] <jazzrabbit> :(
[01:17] <redshadowhero> Ah...
[01:17] <Biovore> jazzrabbit: if you can get a shell open type xwininfo and click on the desktop  what does depth say..
[01:17] <redshadowhero> I fixed that with the emerald theme manager...
[01:17] <redshadowhero> not sure how to do it otherwise...
[01:18] <Biovore> beryl fails to load right unless you graphics are in 24Bit
[01:18] <MaTiAz> Theory: Ok, thanks
[01:18] <neusonce> so do i just cut and paste links from the link you gave me into sources.list ?
[01:18] <jazzrabbit> depth 24
[01:18] <Dragnslcr> jazzrabbit- tried this:  To fix your beryl/compiz window decorations (titlebars) with an nVidia graphics card, run  sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24 , then restart !X.
[01:18] <jazzrabbit> :S
[01:19] <neusonce> i used to love the game jazz rabit when i was a kid
[01:19] <BluesKaj> neusonce, cutand paste the whole page
[01:19] <vzduch> !$@#
[01:19] <jazzrabbit> me to
[01:20] <jazzrabbit> jojo
[01:20] <jazzrabbit> it's a gret game
[01:20] <jazzrabbit> i put the command you gave me
[01:20] <BluesKaj> after you follow the instructions to generate a sources.list page for you, neusonce
[01:20] <runlevelten> Has anyone had experience running fglrx 8.33.6 against Feisty?
[01:20] <jazzrabbit> but i can't restart x now because i'm installing something in adept
[01:20] <jazzrabbit> :(
[01:20] <veleno> hi
[01:21] <DARKGuy> hey, how can I open a new login screen in a new display through the terminal ?
[01:21] <neusonce> a different kate applet just came up after i pressed create source.list , so just to be clear you want me to cut and paste this entire list  to sources.list
[01:21] <Biovore> DARKGuy: a console login?
[01:22] <BluesKaj> runlevelten, i tried it but it din't work with my x200g card so i followed this tutorial and it works with 3D and DRI : http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[01:22] <DARKGuy> Biovore: nope, a KDM/GDM/XDM screen
[01:22] <veleno> porco dio
[01:22] <veleno> porco dio
[01:22] <veleno> porco dio
[01:22] <veleno> siete dei figli di puttana
[01:22] <BluesKaj> make sure you save it , neusonce
[01:22] <Biovore> DARKGuy: you can start up another x-session on another terminal and then start kde there...
[01:23] <veleno> ciao troie depravate
[01:23] <martijn> !english
[01:23] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[01:23] <DARKGuy> Biovore: well yeah that's what I want to do, but don't know how
[01:23] <BluesKaj> !it  | veleno
[01:23] <ubotu> veleno: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:23] <vzduch> martijn, BluesKaj: nevermind, that's a troll
[01:23] <veleno> martijn: ciucciamelo
[01:23] <veleno> thank
[01:24] <BluesKaj> italian trolls ...ok , I thought  trolls were scandinavian like gnomes :)
[01:24] <neusonce> grrrrrrr
[01:24] <neusonce> The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///ect/apt/sources.list.
[01:25] <neusonce> can i do this in teh terminal ?
[01:25] <runlevelten> DARKGuy: I used to use startx -- :1 to do that - caveat certain proprietary 3d drivers don't like that.
[01:25] <martijn> neusonce: you have to do it as root (sudo)
[01:25] <martijn> or kdesu kate
[01:25] <Biovore> DARKGuy: there is an option from being loged in thats says "login as another user" somewhere..
[01:26] <DARKGuy> Biovore: well, yeah, but I'm running some fullscreen app working on something so I can't do that, that's why I asked from the terminal :P
[01:26] <neusonce> .... i put in my password when i was prompted
[01:26] <DARKGuy> runlevelten: thanks, I'll try that :)
[01:26] <vzduch> well, I think saying something like 'swine of God' (not sure here) or 'you are sons of a b*tches' isn't exactly nice..
[01:26] <neusonce> i did martijin
[01:26] <BluesKaj> neusonce, you have to do the permissions and password thing to edit files , so kdesu kate /etc/apt.sources.list , then paste the text into the empty page.
[01:26] <magor666> any one got the d-link DWL G132 wirless working with kubuntu?
[01:26] <martijn> neusonce: you can use vim or nano in the terminal
[01:27] <redshadowhero> or pico
[01:27] <BluesKaj> then save it!
[01:27] <runlevelten> Although if you want to use multiple x servers, xnest is nice :)
[01:27] <redshadowhero> well, nevermind, pico and nano are similar enough, anyway.
[01:27] <Biovore> DARKGuy: yeah runlevelten's suggestion works.. But on nvidia cards it fails..
[01:27] <DARKGuy> Biovore, runlevelten: Now that was scary. A black/white screen with an X cursor then Gnome starts! :/ when I have set up GDM to use KDE as my default session :(
[01:27] <BluesKaj> close any instances of sources.list first , neusonce
[01:27] <DARKGuy> Biovore: could figure as much, GeForce4 here xD
[01:28] <runlevelten> Yeah, you will get KDE on 7 and Gnome on 8
[01:28] <runlevelten> heh
[01:28] <runlevelten> You can use xnest too, you know :)
[01:28] <martijn> bah, i want to see more of kde4 :(
[01:28] <DARKGuy> runlevelten: hm, how so?
[01:29] <neusonce> ok bluekaj
[01:32] <runlevelten> DARKGuy: sudo apt-get install Xnest, then run it
[01:32] <DARKGuy> runlevelten: just like that? cool
[01:32] <runlevelten> obviously point it at display :1
[01:32] <DARKGuy> oh
[01:32] <DARKGuy> okay, thanks :D
[01:32] <runlevelten> you get another x server in a window on your desktop :)
[01:33] <Biovore> http://www.kde-files.org/news/index.php/plasma+screencast?id=256&name=plasma+screencast&PHPSESSID=c53a6c8  <-- screencast of some kde4 stuff
[01:36] <martijn> Biovore: cool, thanks
[01:37] <Biovore> http://files.ruphy.org/2007/06/17-plasma-icons.avi <-- another cool on about the new icon methods.. very cool stuff..
[01:37] <Biovore> beta is planned for end of sept I think..
[01:37] <magor999> elite101: ur using windows cuz ur in kubuntu
[01:38] <elite101> what no im not?
[01:38] <elite101> help a microshaft Virus Xp user is in the irc chat
[01:40] <omeow> Hi, I'm trying to figure out how I can get a nodeadkeys variant of my keyboard layout, does anyone know how to do that? It doesn't appear to be listed in there, and I'm sure I saw it there at some point...
[01:40] <vzduch> nodeadkeys is just plain irritating imho
[01:41] <omeow> Yes, that's very helpful. =)
[01:42] <Apollo_> Will Ferell is the best
[01:42] <vzduch> how do you write e.g. accented characters w/ a nodeadkeys layout?
[01:43] <elite101> im suprised no one has that nick name ubuntu,
[01:43] <elite101> from b4
[01:44] <Pazy> Can you guys give me a bit of help, i need to get Grub to load my WinXP but i dont know what entry to add
[01:45] <omeow> vzduch: I use alt gr.
[01:45] <vzduch> omeow: I'm not sure, but maybe you can hack it directly into your xorg.conf, or choose it while running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' (use w/ care; be sure to back up your xorg.conf beforehand)
[01:46] <omeow> No thanks. I rather stay away from the whole console business.
[01:47] <vzduch> as long as keyboard layouts in KDE are deactivated, KDE will take whatever you choose there
[01:47] <xst> Can anyone explain why the "Embedded MPlayer for KDE" can play my videos while neither Kaffeine or any other player can play them? The videos are pretty garbled when viewed with the non-embedded players. Why?
[01:48] <elite101> dont u hate windows user who send u crap threw msn asking u to use it!!!
[01:48] <elite101> programs that are .deb
[01:48] <Biovore> xst: because mplayer rules :-)
[01:49] <elite101> can u use windows mediaplayer using wine?
[01:49] <elite101> older ones i imagine
[01:49] <Biovore> kinda.. no direct x
[01:49] <elite101> ohh
[01:49] <elite101> man
[01:49] <Pazy> Can no one help me?
[01:49] <elite101> sure
[01:49] <magor999> lol
[01:49] <Biovore> mplayer does 99% off stuff.. the only thing it has problems with is wmv with DRM on them..
[01:49] <elite101> omg
[01:49] <Biovore> Pazy: yeah.. 1 sec
[01:50] <vzduch> grml..
[01:50] <elite101> magor666 see #windows-offtopic ? u dont have linux what do u need here?
[01:50] <Biovore> Biovore: Add the following to your menu.lst file in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:51] <Biovore> Pazy: title  windows       \n       root   (hd1,0)        savedefault       makeactive chainloader +1
[01:51] <elite101> well he is annyoing asking me to run programs after he downloaded them
[01:51] <Biovore> or something like that
[01:51] <Pazy> one line? or diffrent lines
[01:51] <elite101> nothing like crashing sudo
[01:51] <Biovore> Pazy: different lines..
[01:51] <Biovore> Pazy: google on grub and windows
[01:51] <martijn> anyone a recommendation on a pda?
[01:52] <Pazy> did that, got hell ofa confused lol
[01:52] <Pazy> Thanks, ill do that now
[01:52] <elite101> um shoot
[01:52] <Biovore> Pazy: your location might be different
[01:52] <Pazy> Location? how will i work it out
[01:52] <runlevelten> Debs over messenger..... make damned sure you trust that person, heh.
[01:52] <elite101> thoes attack of the show hardware pron they said areally good pda
[01:52] <elite101> exactly he uses windows (cant even operate that) and ask's me to install debian thingsd
[01:53] <jdt> Hi, is there a way in KMail, when using IMAP, to keep a copy of the messages for offline viewing, and to improve performance on slow links?
[01:53] <elite101> doesnt even say where there from or what they do
[01:53] <Biovore> jdt: there is..
[01:53] <jdt> Biovore: I am all ears :)
[01:53] <runlevelten> Tell him he can give you the name and you'll get it from the official repos.
[01:53] <Biovore> you have to make a dissconnect imap account
[01:54] <runlevelten> You give toot privileges on your machine to anyone who gets to run a deb on it, so don't run random ones from msn :)
[01:54] <Pazy> How is it I work out the location? Sorry, im anxtous been without gaming for 24 hours lol
[01:54] <runlevelten> *root privileges too, haha
[01:54] <jdt> Biovore: I see the option :) Thankyou
[01:54] <runlevelten> I say run debs, ykwim.
[01:55] <runlevelten> speaking of gaming, time for some FPS action.
[01:55] <elite101> halo2
[01:55] <elite101> lol
[01:55] <martijn>  /list
[01:56] <martijn> oops
[01:56] <runlevelten> I don't think so, hehe. Trem or tce I reckon.
[01:56] <Pazy> Im dreading the day I need to buy vista for games, need a whole new system cause its such a cow :(
[01:57] <neusonce>  i put in kdesu kate /ect/apt/sources.list and put in the source list i was told to cut and paste i saved it however when i got adept  its still the same ??
[01:57] <runlevelten> They'll have a job pushing that one for a while. There are basically no advantages to running it, the only way 99% of Vista owners will ever have it == arm-twisting.
[01:57] <neusonce>  theres no new apps
[01:58] <runlevelten> neusonce, what do you mean no more apps?
[01:58] <elite101> martijn, there is a pda running mobile windows and can emulate the iphone for like half the price too (i think its unlocked) really good interface too running iphone on it
[01:58] <Pazy> If it wasent for the Vista only games which will come out soon id never even contemplate getting it. But i bet its got more stuff to prevent it working with linux
[01:59] <elite101> holy crap a whole school just joined this channel*************
[01:59] <elite101> at the same time?
[01:59] <Pazy> A school would have same ip lol
[01:59] <vzduch> Pazy: not necessarily
[01:59] <elite101> i know but lol wierd all the diff ppl same time
[01:59] <Pazy> Generally then
[01:59] <neusonce> well  when i originally  opened sources.list it was empty  NOTHING in there
[01:59] <Dragnslcr> It's called a netsplit
[01:59] <Dragnslcr> !netsplit
[01:59] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[01:59] <Pazy> Looks like the same people that got kicked for excess flood
[01:59] <runlevelten> They have 5 ways of forcing ordinary users to run Vista, and 1 way of making them want to.
[02:00] <Pazy> Resseting comp back in a min
[02:00] <elite101> lol u can do that?
[02:00] <elite101> wow
[02:00] <neusonce> i need to download some apps from adept  but  its very very limited in what i can download
[02:00] <elite101> aminute before u get that trojan
[02:00] <vzduch> I can't seem to be able to watch this DVD, so I'm gonna rip it
[02:01] <neusonce>  and what i havent got  is blocked from me
[02:01] <vzduch> neusonce: did you put your newly generated sources.list in place?
[02:02] <neusonce> vzdutch i saved the file where it was
[02:02] <vzduch> define 'where it was'
[02:02] <elite101> wholy crap exessive flood ideed lol it was like a tsunami of nicknames
[02:02] <neusonce>    /ect/apt/sources.list
[02:02] <vzduch> then run 'sudo apt-get update'
[02:03] <runlevelten> the one way is to feebly rip off beryl and kde.
[02:03] <runlevelten> BluesKaj: Did you say you _didn't_ end up with 8.33.6 running on feisty?
[02:03] <runlevelten> It's moaning about xorg, but dang 8.34 is a *MESS*.
[02:03] <elite101> how bad can debian files screw up your pc if curopted or someone hacked them?
[02:03] <elite101> like so bad u cant boot up anymore?
[02:03] <Theory> elite101: debs contain scripts that run as root
[02:03] <neusonce> ROARR
[02:03] <elite101> ohh so it can do alot of damage
[02:04] <neusonce> vz it says it failed to fetch  from each of the address...
[02:04] <vzduch> elite101: don't install anything you don't know is safe
[02:04] <elite101> that kid magor999 keeps on trying to send me .deb over msn and tells me to run it? i dont know what it does or where he got it from?
[02:04] <neusonce> could not connect to archive
[02:05] <elite101> my instinct lol told me not to run them or accept the file
[02:05] <vzduch> what does he send you?
[02:05] <elite101> .deb files with wierd names
[02:05] <vzduch> what names?
[02:05] <elite101> i dont even know what they are?
[02:05] <elite101> i can remeber its on msn i closed the convo
[02:05] <vzduch> neusonce: pastebin your sources.list please
[02:05] <elite101> he doesnt even know what they are just sends me that crap?
[02:06] <elite101> must be something bad if he wastes his time downloading it
[02:06] <neusonce> ok
[02:06] <elite101> when he is on windows o.0
[02:06] <neusonce> i just did a kubutu install could you send me the link
[02:06] <vzduch> !pastebin
[02:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:08] <neusonce> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31184/
[02:09] <Pazy> Im back, I couldent get the GRUB to detect my WInxp, its the location i think
[02:10] <Biovore> Pazy: what partion and drive youy have it on?
[02:10] <[ifr0g] > hi, is there avahi preinstalled on edgy ?
[02:10] <Pazy> All i know is its WInXP is on a Sata and its the secondary master. Linux is primary master on IDE
[02:10] <solarwaver> exo ena provlima ti simainei You need to identify to a registered nick to join that channel.?
[02:10] <Biovore> [ifr0g] :  yes
[02:11] <vzduch> looks like a problem w/ Australian mirrors.. try New Zealand or Asian mirrors (nz, sg, id, jp, whatever)
[02:11] <Pazy> My Win C: is as /media/sdb1 on Linux if that helps
[02:11] <[ifr0g] > Biovore, is it wise to remove it.
[02:12] <solarwaver> i have aproblem you what it means : You need to identify to a registered nick to join that channel.?
[02:12] <Biovore> [ifr0g] : I think it has something to do with Multicast DNS Service Discovery
[02:12] <neusonce> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31184/ any takers
[02:13] <vzduch> or you just forgot to import the keys
[02:13] <Biovore> neusonce: try just archive.ubuntu.com and not AU
[02:13] <vzduch> then run the key commands as described in the file
[02:13] <Biovore> AU servers could be down..
[02:14] <vzduch> Biovore: already told him to use other mirrors, no need to burden the main servers
[02:14] <Biovore> apparently the mirror isn't working..
[02:14] <Pazy> Is there a way to get Grub to aito detect os's?
[02:14] <solarwaver> i have aproblem you what it means : You need to identify to a registered nick to join that channel.?
[02:14] <Pazy> *auto
[02:14] <neusonce> can i get the adress of the site where i can get acess to these mirrors
[02:14] <solarwaver> i have aproblem you what it means : You need to identify to a registered nick to join that channel.?
[02:15] <Biovore> besideds.. archive.ubuntu.com isn't 1 server.. is a rotating dns like www.google.com
[02:15] <vzduch> solarwaver: it means what it says, no need to repeat quickly
[02:15] <runlevelten>  It means: you need to identify to a registered nick to join that channel.
[02:15] <vzduch> mhm
[02:15] <solarwaver> what is th registere nick
[02:15] <runlevelten> If you don't know what that means, then you're almost certainly not welcome in the channel concerned.
[02:15] <vzduch> solarwaver: any nick as long as it's registered
[02:16] <vzduch> !identify
[02:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about identify - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:16] <vzduch> !register
[02:16] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[02:16] <solarwaver> come on guys i need help over here
[02:16] <solarwaver> how i do registered
[02:17] <vzduch> read at the above URL and be happy :)
[02:17] <Biovore> solarwaver: check out www.freenode.net there instructions there on what you need to do..
[02:17] <runlevelten> solarwaver: go to your server window (click on ubuntu IRC in the left pane) and type /msg nickserv help register
[02:17] <runlevelten> or type in this room: /msg nickserv help register
[02:17] <Pazy> Im hell of a confused
[02:18] <vzduch> anyone ever ripped a DVD w/ K3b?  how long does it take to see some progress?
[02:18] <solarwaver> thanx
[02:18] <runlevelten> you can rip with k3b?
[02:18] <vzduch> yep
[02:18] <runlevelten> solarwaver: np :)
[02:18] <jeff185> shudent be long
[02:18] <Biovore> vzduch: if the DVD is encryped I don't think it will work at all..
[02:18] <runlevelten> Oh I see what you mean, like for ordinary copying.
[02:18] <solarwaver> what np?
[02:19] <runlevelten> I thought you meant for css stuff.
[02:20] <Pazy> Pretty please help?
[02:21] <vzduch> Biovore: yeah, doesn't seem to work.. transcode returned 'failed to init encoder'
[02:21] <vzduch> multiple read errors
[02:21] <runlevelten> what's wrong pazy?
[02:21] <Pazy> I need to figure out my WInXp location for Grub
[02:21] <Biovore> vzduch: I think there is something called k9copy
[02:22] <Biovore> Pazy: can you see the disk from your linux box?
[02:22] <vzduch> yea, I used that before.. but somehow I don't really like it
[02:22] <runlevelten> dvdrip is probably a better bet than k9copy
[02:22] <Pazy> What you mean can i see my disk? you mean can i access WIn C:?
[02:22] <runlevelten> ...and that's from someone who generally prefers to use the kde app.
[02:22] <Biovore> I rip dvd's to xvid to x264.. I don't really copy..
[02:24] <Pazy> I can access my C:\ (and other Win partiton on my Sata) from my linux (which is on an IDE)
[02:25] <solarwaver> pazy : what linux do u use?
[02:25] <Pazy> Kubuntu 7.04 (latest i think) off the CD I ordered from kubuntu website
[02:27] <neusonce> grrrrrrrrrrrrrr roar  ok guys, ....... i chaged the source.list to a us server deleted the au  source.list  and i do a sudo apt-get update in the konsole and it still trys to run on teh au source.list
[02:27] <runlevelten> and what disks/partitions are 1)the windows system you're trying to boot and 2) the linux system you're booting into on?
[02:27] <vzduch> neusonce: then you didn't put it in the right place
[02:27] <Pazy> You talkin to me runlevelten?
[02:28] <runlevelten> Pazy: Yes.
[02:28] <neusonce>  i put it in //etc/apt.sources.list
[02:28] <vzduch> neusonce: wrong, it has to be /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:28] <draik> neusonce: It's /etc/apt/sources.lst
[02:28] <Admiral_Chicago> list
[02:29] <[ifr0g] > Hi, what does this error mean..
[02:29] <[ifr0g] > RTNETLINK answers: File exists
[02:29] <[ifr0g] > run-parts: /etc/network/if-up.d/avahi-autoipd exited with return code 2
[02:29] <neusonce> ..../etc/apt.sources.list i put it in there
[02:29] <Pazy> The windows C:\ is at /media/sdb1 and Kubuntu is at (hd0,0) (says grub)
[02:29] <vzduch> neusonce: again, that's wrong.. look at it closely and find the typo
[02:29] <solarwaver> pazy : what linux do u use?
[02:29] <solarwaver> pazy : what linux do u use?
[02:29] <Pazy> Kubuntu solarwaver
[02:30] <neusonce> grrrrr thanks vz
[02:30] <draik> neusonce: It's /etc/apt/sources.lst
[02:30] <runlevelten> OK, I was going to ask you about grub next. Which disk is kubuntu in the first partition of?
[02:30] <solarwaver> me to u can write also to the disks?
[02:30] <Pazy> I dont know what the disk means, that sda and hda?
[02:31] <runlevelten> yes.
[02:31] <draik> [ifr0g] : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/avahi/+bug/84580
[02:31] <Pazy> How can i tell?
[02:31] <runlevelten> type mount and look for the one mounted on /
[02:31] <solarwaver> can u write to any of the disks yes or no?
[02:31] <solarwaver> can u write to any of the disks yes or no?
[02:32] <vzduch> !repeat | solarwaver
[02:32] <ubotu> solarwaver: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:32] <Pazy> This right?  /dev/sda1 on / type ext3
[02:32] <runlevelten> right, and you have two physical disks, right?
[02:32] <solarwaver> sorry
[02:32] <draik> !patience | draik
[02:32] <Pazy> yes Sata and HDD
[02:33] <runlevelten> the first one being the kubuntu disk.
[02:33] <[ifr0g] > draik, Is it safe to remove avahi ?
[02:33] <runlevelten> and windows I gather is on the second disk?
[02:33] <solarwaver> how do u do that i can not copy anything to the ather disks
[02:33] <runlevelten> yeah you said, sorry
[02:33] <draik> [ifr0g] : No clue. I just did a quick search for you. That is the first link from google.com/intl/xx-hacker/
[02:33] <runlevelten> So you'll want an option in menu.lst that says:
[02:34] <solarwaver> how do u do that i can not copy anything to the ather disks
[02:34] <[ifr0g] > draik, alright thanks :)
[02:34] <draik> [ifr0g] : No problem. Sorry, but I'm not familiar with it.
[02:35] <Eljus> hey all I'm having trouble mounting my smart phone...
[02:35] <Eljus> when i plug in the usb nothing happens...
[02:35] <Eljus> searched the doc to no avail...
[02:35] <draik> Eljus: Same here. I have a T-Mobile Wing
[02:36] <Eljus> trying a htc tytn
[02:36] <Eljus> no luck , huh
[02:36] <draik> Eljus: My solution? Use VMware Workstation with WinXP to do what I need to do. I can also access my Kubuntu and other WinXP partition through the Workstation
[02:36] <runlevelten> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31187/
[02:37] <runlevelten> pazy ^^
[02:37] <Pazy> thanks, ill reset in a sec and try
[02:37] <runlevelten> Yeah, give it a go, it should consider it (hd1,0)
[02:38] <Eljus> Hmmm.  Problem is I'm Linux only.
[02:38] <Eljus> Jumped in head first!  :)
[02:38] <Eljus> no partition
[02:39] <Eljus> any idea why it won't recognize?
[02:40] <reldruh> hi. I'm trying to get rsync working between my laptop and my server to automatically back up my music once a week. I have it running in daemon mode on my server and when I execute the command "rsync /home/myusername/Media/Music/ACDC/ aaron@192.168.1.6:/home/myusername/Media/Music/" from my server, I get the message "skipping directory /home/myusername/Media/Music/ACDC" Does anybody know why this is happening or how I can fix i
[02:41] <runlevelten> draik: I have a similar solution. openSuSE is good for working with _everything_ I own, heh
[02:41] <Biovore> reldruh: try a -ar
[02:42] <Eljus> runleveltn: does it involve windows?
[02:42] <runlevelten> yeah, rsync is running non-recursively. Do what Biovore said :)
[02:42] <runlevelten> Eljus: Certainly not.
[02:42] <Eljus> EXCELLENT!
[02:42] <Eljus> :)
[02:44] <neusonce> OK VZDUTCH: this is what im doing  i press alt +f2 i put in " kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.lst" i cut and copy in a list from  the us i save it exit kate, then i go to terminal and put in sudo apt-get update  and still it says im trying to connect to the au server... im not sleeping nor moving till i get this right ....ANYBODY
[02:46] <Eljus> d
[02:46] <vzduch> neusonce: you made a typo AGAIN
[02:46] <evjunior09> Can anyone here Help me out with making a .Gif Picture? (Moving Picture)
[02:47] <neusonce> omg
[02:47] <neusonce> OMFG
[02:47] <vzduch> trying dvd::rip now, let's see what it can do :)
[02:47] <neusonce> ......NO SLEEP
[02:47] <Eljus> runleveltn: care to share?
[02:47] <Biovore> vzduch: I use mplayer/mencoder to rip and encode DVD here..
[02:47] <Pazy> Im back and the GRUB thing didnt work
[02:47] <evjunior09>  Neusonce: TILL BROOKLYN!
[02:47] <vzduch> hrhr
[02:48] <neusonce> HUH??
[02:48] <draik> evjunior09: LOL.
[02:48] <neusonce> omg im a linux baby
[02:48] <evjunior09> Neusonce: youve never heard that song? "No Sleep Till Brooklyn?"
[02:48] <neusonce> no
[02:48] <vzduch> *omfg* someone who doesn't know the Beastie Boys..
[02:48] <evjunior09> neusonce: how old are you?
[02:48] <runlevelten> Pazy: what happened?
[02:48] <Dragnslcr> evjunior09++
[02:48] <neusonce> 21
[02:48] <neusonce> AND
[02:48] <neusonce> australian
[02:48] <evjunior09> Hmm. Weird. lol nooo biggie.
[02:49] <runlevelten> vzduch: dvdrip ain't pretty, but it's good.
[02:49] <evjunior09> Anyone good with Gimp//.gif Pics?
[02:49] <vzduch> neusonce: no reason not to know the Beastie Boys :)
[02:49] <draik> If I had a Bluetooth receiver with Kubuntu, how would I go about xfering the files from my phone to Kubuntu?
[02:49] <dannydrifffft> I'm having a problem installing both Ubuntu and Kubuntu. I put the install disk in and choose to install from disk. On Ubuntu, I get the orange background (blue on Kubuntu) and a mouse cursor. I don't get the install dialog. It just stops there with a moveable mouse cursor
[02:49] <neusonce> vzdutch tell me wheres my typo
[02:49] <Pazy> I copied exactly what you put, then  i resetted and chose the WinXP option and it said 'Starting Now' and i left it for 5 mins (make juice) came back it still said starting up. So i disconnected IDE with Linux and inserted WinXP setup disk to get it to boot into WinXP (To see if Win was at fault)
[02:49] <neusonce>  i know not what im doing ?
[02:49] <draik> dannydrifffft: "/sysinfo"
[02:50] <vzduch> neusonce: it's not 'lst', it's 'list'
[02:50] <draik> dannydrifffft: Do it here. Possibly your hardware...?
[02:50] <Dragnslcr> draik- I vaguely recall that your phone would be detected as a removable drive
[02:50] <elite101> is there a .avi codec or caffene
[02:50] <neusonce>  you told me lst
[02:50] <neusonce> omg
[02:50] <vzduch> neusonce: no, I didn't
[02:50] <dannydrifffft> I thought it was the monitor so I tried another monitor and same thing. I tried a different video card and now it's a different problem
[02:50] <neusonce> ...
[02:50] <neusonce> *hits self *
[02:50] <neusonce>  ok
[02:51] <draik> 21, huh? Sure fooled me with the "omg"s all over the place
[02:51] <neusonce> shush
[02:51] <vzduch> [02:28:31]  < vzduch> neusonce: wrong, it has to be /etc/apt/sources.list  how's that look? ;)
[02:51] <neusonce> i dress myself thank you
[02:51] <dannydrifffft> I originally tried it with a PCI-E GeForce 7800GT which is when I get the first problem.
[02:51] <neusonce> but ok
[02:51] <neusonce> apart from that
[02:51] <neusonce> im fine
[02:51] <neusonce> ??
[02:52] <dannydrifffft> Then I tried a PCI Radeon 9200 and now I just get a black screen with the blinking underscore on the top left.
[02:52] <draik> neusonce: You have been told what to do. We are just under the Hold-Your-Hand phase
[02:52] <draik> dannydrifffft: /sysinfo
[02:52] <neusonce> kdesu kate /ect/apt/sources.list
[02:52] <vzduch> and another typo
[02:52] <neusonce>  cut copy us server list
[02:52] <neusonce> save
[02:52] <vzduch> man, learn to copy and paste
[02:52] <neusonce>  go to terminal
[02:52] <dannydrifffft> draik: what do you mean exactly?
[02:52] <draik> Sysinfo for 'Lair': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz at 3216 MHz (6432 bogomips), HD: 414/766GB, RAM: 2924/3035MB, 147 proc's, 27.29min up
[02:52] <draik> Type that in and you will get that.
[02:53] <NickPresta> os[Linux 2.6.20-16-generic i686]  distro[Debian 4.0]  cpu[2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ @ 2.21GHz]  mem[Physical : 2026MB, 75.7% free]  disk[Total : 178.02GB, 73.70% Free]  video[nVidia Corporation GeForce 7900 GS]  sound[] 
[02:53] <dannydrifffft> into IRC?
[02:53] <draik> !source-o-matic | neusonce
[02:53] <ubotu> neusonce: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:53] <draik> dannydrifffft: yes
[02:53] <NickPresta> Oh. Sorry about that guys. Didn't mean to flood with that. >_>
[02:53] <dannydrifffft> SYSINFO Unknown command
[02:53] <vzduch> neusonce:    kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list    copy & paste!
[02:53] <vzduch> it's tabbed, so definitely no mistake
[02:53] <dannydrifffft> Im using mIRC 6.21
[02:54] <elite101> is there a player out there i can downlaod for it to play .avi (i dont wanna download any plugins xD)
[02:54] <vzduch> dannydrifffft: you're on Linux, no need to use the darn dreaded mIRC
[02:54] <vzduch> elite101: ?
[02:54] <draik> dannydrifffft: Sorry.
[02:54] <dannydrifffft> I'm not on Linux. I'm still on Windows.
[02:54] <draik> vzduch: No, he's not.
[02:54] <dannydrifffft> I'm trying to install Linux.
[02:54] <runlevelten> Ew.
[02:54] <elite101> yeah i dont wanna get plugins for caffene
[02:54] <draik> vzduch: He's trying to get into K/Ubuntu, but can't.
[02:54] <vzduch> draik: ah ok
[02:54] <elite101> i just wanna another player that can play .avi
[02:55] <runlevelten> Well avi is just a wrapper. You'll need to have the ability to play usual formats to play 'em.
[02:55] <grul> !internet
[02:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about internet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:55] <evjunior09> If i download Photoshop on Limewire, will it work on WINE?
[02:55] <vzduch> !w32codecs | elite101
[02:55] <ubotu> elite101: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[02:55] <draik> What's wrong with windows? It's the best thing out there!
[02:55] <draik> I REALLY hope you caught the sarcasm on that one!
[02:55] <elite101> lol
[02:55] <vzduch> draik: are you mad???
[02:55] <runlevelten> evjunior09: Buy a copy or use the GIMP.
[02:55] <Pazy> I think im screwed
[02:55] <dannydrifffft> draik: if you want I can send/PM you my cpu-z file
[02:55] <draik> dannydrifffft: Sure
[02:56] <runlevelten> Pazy: still waiting on the rest of your sentence
[02:56] <elite101> will photoshop work in wine?
[02:56] <Pazy> what you mean?
[02:56] <dannydrifffft> draik: k one second. thanks
[02:56] <draik> elite101: CS2 yes
[02:56] <runlevelten> elite101: yes.
[02:56] <evjunior09> runlevelten: i dont have the money to pay for the copy at the moment. Sure i would rather Purchase one. but for now can i use it? GIMP is too hard to use and i dont understand it
[02:56] <neusonce> ok, vz  when i put the us sever list in sources.list it says it can not be saved so it creates another source.list called "source.list~"
[02:56] <draik> dannydrifffft: NP
[02:56] <elite101> cool
[02:56] <elite101> i have 7
[02:56] <draik> elite101: I have yet to try CS3
[02:56] <runlevelten> evjunior09: Suck it up. There's a free alternative for you to use, there is no excuse.
[02:56] <vzduch> neusonce: the one w/ the ~ is the backup
[02:56] <draik> elite101: Yeah, that shouldn't be a problem. I don't think...
[02:56] <vzduch> that's normal
[02:57] <eli> hi all, what is the absolutely most failsafeee and easy way to upgrade from 6.06 to 7.04?
[02:57] <neusonce> ok
[02:57] <evjunior09> Runlevelten: okay thanks for your useless Input
[02:57] <runlevelten> You are actually being given an equivalent program.... for free. What's not to afford?
[02:57] <vzduch> elite101: there's no failsafe way
[02:57] <draik> Money for software? That's a first   ;P
[02:57] <evjunior09> I simply dont like GIMP. its lame
[02:57] <elite101> eli, i need the same thing
[02:57] <Pazy> GIMP is good but harder to get used to that PS
[02:57] <elite101> lol its not me but he is my brother
[02:57] <elite101> i have same ver. too lol
[02:57] <Pazy> What rest of sentance do you want runlevelten?
[02:58] <dannydrifffft> draik: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=220495
[02:58] <elite101> and was wondering if i can cuz i dont have a dvd reader
[02:58] <dannydrifffft> don't know if that has the information youre wanting, but I hope it helps.
[02:58] <draik> dannydrifffft: Will let you know
[02:58] <runlevelten> evjunior09: If you were too good for the GIMP, maybe you'd have the cash to use the software according to its license. But you're not.
[02:58] <eli> I would guess that one way is to change dapper to feisty in /etc/apt/sources.list, elite101
[02:58] <runlevelten> Anyway, w/e.
[02:58] <eli> but I'm wondering if there's an easier way
[02:58] <evjunior09> I am too good for gimp
[02:58] <evjunior09> thanks for noticing
[02:58] <elite101> yeah
[02:59] <neusonce> neusonce@neusonce-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get update
[02:59] <neusonce> Err http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty Release.gpg
[02:59] <neusonce>   Could not connect to au.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (211.29.132.173). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[02:59] <vzduch> eli: going from Dapper to Feisty directly is definitely not recommended
[02:59] <runlevelten> Pazy: you said you tried windows on its own.
[02:59] <elite101> i was going to shipit but its in dvd formatt
[02:59] <neusonce> AND SO ON
[02:59] <eli> vzduch: how do you recommend it be done?
[02:59] <draik> dannydrifffft: From the look of things, you should NOT have an issue.
[02:59] <evjunior09> But i'd rather not have this stupid conversation with you. Bye
[02:59] <draik> Anything particularly come up? Error message?
[02:59] <NickPresta> evjunior09, if you're too good for The GIMP and require Photoshop, why don't you support a product you need and buy it?
[02:59] <Pazy> Windows XP on its own works perfect, im playing COD2 the now
[03:00] <elite101> i am playing ra2 on here
[03:00] <evjunior09> NickPresta: because i dont have the cash on hand. I dont understand why everyone is flipping out over a stupid program
[03:00] <vzduch> eli: either Dapper  Edgy  Feisty, or back up /home/yourUserName/ and /etc/X11/xorg.conf and do a clean install
[03:00] <dannydrifffft> draik: yeah i have no idea what's going on. I tried the release before Feisty Fawn and it had the same problem. So when 7.0.4 came out I was excited because I thought it'd be fixed.
[03:00] <dannydrifffft> but same thing.
[03:00] <eli> okay, the way to do that is still editing sources.list, vzduch?
[03:00] <NickPresta> evjunior09, If you're too young or don't have the cash to buy Photoshop, you can either live without PS until you have the money or you wouldn't need Photoshop anyways =)
[03:01] <dannydrifffft> I can't believe its not even working with the Radeon 9200.
[03:01] <vzduch> for the first possibility, yes, and this twice
[03:01] <draik> dannydrifffft: Sorry, don't know what to tell you?
[03:01] <eli> okay, thanks you vzduch
[03:01] <vzduch> !upgrade | eli
[03:01] <ubotu> eli: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[03:01] <eli> :D
[03:01] <bob_sinclair> hey guys, just wondering which virtualisation product is best/most popular ?
[03:01] <evjunior09> Nickpresta: its not that im too young. haha 18 isnt too young for PS. But okay w/e. all i asked is that will it work with WINE
[03:01] <elite101> xD is fiesty fawn
[03:01] <kgx> hey. is there any way recreate original config files for a program that install via apt-get?
[03:01] <elite101> no KDE
[03:02] <runlevelten> evjunior09: You're the one who decided to proudly announce it was copied from limiewire.
[03:02] <dannydrifffft> draik: alright. thanks a lot for the help anyway
[03:02] <runlevelten> Nobody asked you, or cared.
[03:02] <draik> evjunior09: Not to be the Devil's advocate, but aren't YOU the one flipping out about a simple suggestion about using GIMP?
[03:02] <bob_sinclair> kgx: reinstall hte package
[03:02] <draik> dannydrifffft: NP, best of luck
[03:02] <kgx> bob_sinclair: didnt seem to help. i broke the config for azureus and now it wont start, even after a reinstall
[03:02] <NickPresta> evjunior09, it will work with Wine if you point it to your installation on Windows, AFAIK
[03:03] <evjunior09> draik: all i asked was if it would freakin work on WINE. My god. GIMP = Sucks
[03:03] <kgx> i remember there was a way through dkpg but i forgot
[03:03] <kgx> !dkpg
[03:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dkpg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:03] <Pazy> At least GImp is worth the asking price
[03:03] <bob_sinclair> kgx: run rm -Rf ~/.azureus
[03:03] <evjunior09> Well right, thats why it sucks. its free
[03:04] <Pazy> Well explain you feel sucks about it, you can e-mail it the the people who make it and they may make changes
[03:04] <vzduch> evjunior09: if free == sucks, then stay w/ Windoze and be happy..
[03:04] <runlevelten> Jesus evjunior09, who cares. Just ask some sort of technical question if you want.
[03:04] <Scorpaen> i installed proftpd and at the end it asked me if i wanted it standalone or daemon. i made the wrong choices. how do i run that wizard again??
[03:04] <kgx> bob_sinclair: i was hoping not to do that but will use it as a last resort :) will google a bit more. ta
[03:04] <runlevelten> Or don't
[03:04] <draik> Pazy: They use GIMP at work. Seems worth it
[03:04] <evjunior09> vzduch: trust me i didnt want Kubuntu
[03:04] <Pazy> Gimp is great I find as well
[03:04] <runlevelten> evjunior09: Allow me to provide you with a refund. Here [       ] 
[03:04] <bob_sinclair> kgx: if you have not installed and using sun-java then thats probably your issue
[03:04] <bob_sinclair> gimp is awesome, you just need to learn it
[03:04] <Pazy> I use Gimp on Linux and Ps on windows, no problems for me
[03:05] <runlevelten> I use PS on Linux sometimes. It's well supported on wine
[03:06] <runlevelten> Movie studio funding for Codeweavers to support it, you see.
[03:06] <Pazy> The problem for me is my download speed is slower on linux so ive never been bothered to dowload it
[03:06] <Scorpaen> reconfig proftpd anyone??
[03:06] <draik> evjunior09: Then why on Kubuntu?
[03:07] <Pazy> Does anyone else feel Vista has been less well reveived than XP?
[03:07] <runlevelten> Pazy: about 100x
[03:07] <evjunior09> Draik: because Windows wouldnt install on my Computer. i went to 3 different Computer places to help
[03:07] <evjunior09> so i was stuck witht his sh!t
[03:07] <vzduch> to my knowledge, XP wasn't well received before SP1 as well
[03:07] <elite101> hey!!
[03:07] <Pazy> Personally im hoping enough people get pissed at it and go to mac/linux then we can get some games and support
[03:07] <hamadooo> hi guys .. can someone tell me what is winre is ??
[03:08] <draik> Pazy: I feel that the "non-geek" community became skeptical with the geeks in regards to what is being offered by Vista
[03:08] <Pazy> I liked XP from release, and in fact ive got no sp now......................
[03:08] <runlevelten> We already have _some_ games and support :)
[03:08] <elite101> i have windows xp pro sp3
[03:08] <draik> evjunior09: There are MANY flavors of Linux. I can guarantee you that nobody shoved this down your throat
[03:08] <Pazy> More support would be nice, i hate being limited to like 3 commerical linux games, whearas theres thousands od Win games and you dont need to look at sys reqs
[03:08] <evjunior09> Draik: Oh yes it was. Flavors??
[03:08] <runlevelten> evjunior09: You know, some of us have spent a good deal of our lives working on that "excrement", and you'll find it's one hell of a lot better than that other OS :)
[03:08] <elite101> from sp1 to sp2 to sp3 there latest installment (the recycle bin!)
[03:09] <elite101> lol
[03:09] <evjunior09> It was either Kubuntu or Nothing
[03:09] <runlevelten> Chill out for a minute and you might find that out ;)
[03:09] <ircusr> hi all
[03:09] <draik> evjunior09: distrowatch.com. Reading wouldn't hurt
[03:09] <bob_sinclair> evjunior09: maybe the problem is the computer hardware or the user, hell if you couldn't install even windows...
[03:09] <evjunior09> Bob_sinclair: maybe you should read what i said ealier
[03:09] <runlevelten> Pazy: I hope you're also using happypenguin.org
[03:09] <evjunior09> it wasnt me dumbass
[03:09] <hamadooo> what is winre guys
[03:09] <elite101> lol i was be4 elite_hacker along time ago used this couldnt handle it at all untill my windows crashed yet again forced my self to learn this and now i am loving it
[03:09] <elite101> !wine
[03:09] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:09] <vzduch> evjunior09: try openSUSE, Fedora, PCLinuxOS, Mandriva, Debian, Slackware, Gentoo..  the choice is almost endless
[03:10] <Pazy> Huh?
[03:10] <bob_sinclair> evjunior09: what did you say earlier
[03:10] <Pazy> Mandriva is also a good distro, was second distro I tried and first i really liked
[03:10] <runlevelten> evjunior09: I suggest Linspire would be what you're after.
[03:10] <elite101> puppy dog linux (my fav)
[03:10] <evjunior09> vzduch: now what is the difference
[03:10] <vzduch> try and see for yourself
[03:10] <evjunior09> bob_Sinclair: none of ur business, if you dont want to go read dont ask
[03:10] <hamadooo> !winre
[03:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:10] <runlevelten> If a bargain basement replacement for windows is what you want, that's what they provide,
[03:10] <vzduch> mostly package management and outward appearance
[03:10] <elite101> solaris is that a bad distro?? " a hacker distro"?
[03:11] <hamadooo> !winRE
[03:11] <Pazy> Ive got solaris on second comp just for fun
[03:11] <vzduch> Solaris is not a (Linux) distro, it's an OS in its own right
[03:11] <elite101> is it good?
[03:11] <bob_sinclair> evjunior09: you asked me to read it, but i wasn't here so... um yeah
[03:11] <Pazy> Anyone here tried Xbox Linux or Ps3's Linux?
[03:11] <elite101> ohh lol
[03:11] <Biovore> elite101: solaris is a different kinda of unix
[03:11] <runlevelten> Solaris ia nother Unix, elite101
[03:11] <Biovore> like BSD
[03:11] <evjunior09> bob_sinclair: exactly, so just stay out of the conversation. Easy.
[03:11] <elite101> Unix? weird
[03:11] <draik> DSL
[03:11] <elite101> is it free
[03:11] <runlevelten> s/i a/is a/
[03:11] <elite101> i have DSL
[03:11] <elite101> finally
[03:11] <bob_sinclair> evjunior09: i have every right to be in the conversation dummy
[03:11] <Biovore> runlevelten: yup sun opensourced it..
[03:12] <evjunior09> bob_sinclair: no you obviously dont if you dont even know what im talking about. stupid ass
[03:12] <elite101> lol why so harsh to him?
[03:12] <Biovore> elite101: might want to google on opensolaris if your intressed in solaris
[03:12] <runlevelten> bob_sinclair: I'd ignore him until he asks something people can support ^^
[03:12] <bob_sinclair> evjunior09: oi be nice. this is freenode, not your private home
[03:12] <bob_sinclair> runlevelten: true i shall ignore the rogue
[03:12] <ircusr> somebody actually uses solaris?
[03:12] <elite101> Biovore, just wondering what it was but good idea thou.
[03:12] <bob_sinclair> yes solaris rules
[03:12] <Pazy> I use solaris
[03:12] <runlevelten> lots of people use solaris
[03:12] <draik> Pazy: YellowDog on PS3... not personally. Ref: http://www.linuxjournal.com
[03:12] <Biovore> ircusr: actualy alot of people use it.. engineers
[03:12] <ircusr> why?
[03:12] <elite101> well expct me
[03:13] <Biovore> ircusr: because sun hardware is very nice..
[03:13] <ircusr> it's gpl right?
[03:13] <elite101> cuz i am starting to be an avid user of linux and exploring diff distros
[03:13] <Biovore> nope
[03:13] <Pazy> runlevelten: so any ideas for help?
[03:13] <ircusr> nice but expensive
[03:13] <runlevelten> I used to work on Solaris machines years ago.
[03:13] <Biovore> solaris isn't not free
[03:13] <ircusr> wasnt it gpl?
[03:13] <Pazy> I got solaris for free
[03:13] <Biovore> (free like gpl anyway)
[03:13] <bob_sinclair> Pazy: help with what sorry
[03:13] <elite101> its not free :(
[03:13] <ircusr> i just ordered a free solaris DVD
[03:13] <Biovore> no solaris is a sun product
[03:13] <ircusr> java is gpl
[03:13] <ircusr> right?
[03:13] <Biovore> nope
[03:13] <ircusr> it is
[03:13] <Pazy> Go to solaris's site and you can order a free dvd
[03:14] <ircusr> yea
[03:14] <ircusr> i did
[03:14] <bob_sinclair> !free
[03:14] <ubotu> freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[03:14] <Biovore> you can get solaris for free..
[03:14] <bob_sinclair> free beer ...
[03:14] <draik> !virus
[03:14] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[03:14] <Pazy> What is this free beer thing? ive never understood that
[03:14] <elite101> sun? u mean java like is that os about programming mostly its not like a u know family pc type of thing?
[03:14] <bob_sinclair> Pazy: try google :)
[03:14] <Pazy> Tried that, got adds for free beer :P
[03:14] <ircusr> free beer thing means that it's a gift
[03:14] <elite101> free beer!!!?
[03:15] <runlevelten> Pazy: There is free as in beer, and Free as in speech.
[03:15] <Biovore> yup
[03:15] <draik> Free beer... WHERE?!?!  <.<   >.>
[03:15] <runlevelten> Free software, does not refer to what it costs. ;)
[03:15] <bob_sinclair> Pazy: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
[03:15] <ircusr> LIBRE
[03:15] <Pazy> runelevelten, thats what i dont understand can u explain diffrence?
[03:15] <ircusr> thats the word
[03:15] <elite101> ubuntu means linux for ppl lol (stupid stickers!!!)
[03:15] <jeff185> its human beings
[03:15] <runlevelten> well the first is the price, and the second is what it is.
[03:16] <Pazy> Im still oblivious but whatever, ive got bigger concerns
[03:16] <elite101> yeah w.e
[03:16] <runlevelten> ppl aren't human beings?!!
[03:16] <runlevelten> OMG
[03:16] <elite101> yeah they arr
[03:16] <runlevelten> hehe
[03:16] <jeff185> the sticker is linux for human beings
[03:16] <Biovore> Pazy: free dosn't mean its not free of restrictions..  for the average computer nub there is no obvious difference.. but for developers there is..
[03:16] <elite101> yeah i know'
[03:17] <bob_sinclair> opera is good free beer imo
[03:17] <vzduch> Biovore: and for businesses, for that matter
[03:17] <Biovore> rgr
[03:17] <runlevelten> yeah, and gcc is good Free software :)
[03:17] <Pazy> Opera is my fav browsere
[03:17] <Biovore> see www.gnu.org for more of this spam..
[03:17] <jeff185> lol
[03:17] <elite101> do businesses run linux software lke major ones ie. google.com/yahoo?
[03:17] <neusonce> * pulls his hair out* ok , i press alt +f2 i put in "kdesu kate /etc/apt.sources.list" i put in my password, a box with apt.sources.list opens up i changed from the au servers to the us servers ealier and its countnues to stay us servers i save again and exit  i go to terminal and type " sudo apt-get update" and its cylces thought the au servers.... help
[03:17] <Biovore> ball areospace..
[03:17] <flaccid> Pazy: there you go an example of free beer, not speech :)
[03:17] <Biovore> quantas
[03:18] <flaccid> elite101: yes
[03:18] <Biovore> there are alot of linux companes
[03:18] <elite101> cool
[03:18] <elite101> that would save money its all free in both ways
[03:18] <elite101> well almost
[03:18] <frost0> konqueror is missing the settings, file, configure edit, toolbar .... what do i do?
[03:19] <Pazy> Is there a command to get GRUB to auto detect things?
[03:19] <flaccid> Pazy: update-grub
[03:19] <Pazy> ah thanks, should have guessed that lol
[03:19] <flaccid> np
[03:19] <vzduch> looks like I'm gonna need a new DVD drive anytime soon.. it's got problems reading DL DVDs, it always had
[03:20] <draik> frost0: Are you using Beryl?
[03:20] <frost0> draik: no sir
[03:20] <draik> frost0: How are the other apps?
[03:20] <frost0> draik: ?
[03:21] <draik> frost0: The other applications (programs). Do they display the menu bar?
[03:21] <frost0> draik: uh yeah
[03:21] <neusonce> * pulls his hair out* ok , i press alt +f2 i put in "kdesu kate /etc/apt.sources.list" i put in my password, a box with apt.sources.list opens up i changed from the au servers to the us servers ealier and its countnues to stay us servers i save again and exit  i go to terminal and type " sudo apt-get update" and its cylces thought the au servers.... help i will SERIOULY GIVE YOU MY FIRST BORN CHILD
[03:21] <elite101> what does it mean solaris cluster?
[03:22] <draik> frost0: I could only assume something wrong with Konqueror and not your K/Ubuntu install. Can you remove and reinstall konqueror?
[03:22] <espire-darkyoshi> 6.06 doesn't have an mp3 decoder by default, does it?
[03:22] <elite101> yes
[03:22] <frost0> draik: how?
[03:22] <elite101> it does
[03:22] <espire-darkyoshi> it does?
[03:22] <espire-darkyoshi> cool
[03:22] <elite101> yes
[03:22] <vzduch> neusonce: holy cr*p, how do you manage to produce a typ EVERY TIME?
[03:22] <frost0> draik: i'll do it but not sure off the top o fmy head
[03:22] <vzduch> *typo
[03:22] <elite101> i used .mp3 fiels before when i made a fresh install
[03:22] <Apollo_> Apollo_
[03:22] <neusonce> VZ DUTCH
[03:22] <elite101> even onlive cd
[03:22] <neusonce> i dont know
[03:23] <neusonce> im desperatly trying to learn linux
[03:23] <neusonce>   if only for my employments sake
[03:23] <vzduch> neusonce:    kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list    copy & paste!
[03:23] <vzduch> neusonce: put on your magnifying glass if you have trouble reading ;)
[03:23] <flaccid> vzduch: isn't that what he tried
[03:23] <draik> neusonce: This is you.... "Eff you all. You all suck and your suggestions are worth crap and you are all stupid.... Can anyone help me with the question that has been answered by everyone but I'm too ignorant to pay attention?"
[03:23] <frost0> draik: uh you there?
[03:24] <vzduch> flaccid: no, it isn't
[03:24] <frost0> draik: sorry..
[03:24] <neusonce> sorry guys
[03:24] <flaccid> um im reading it abovve..
[03:24] <neusonce>  im not trying to come off that way at all
[03:24] <neusonce> im just very tired
[03:24] <espire-darkyoshi> :O why are there folders for mp3, wav, flac, etc. on my audio CD? is this virtualized for user-friendlyness?
[03:24] <draik> frost0: sudo apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove konqueror && sudo apt-get install konqueror
[03:24] <neusonce>  i i thank you for you help all of you
[03:24] <neusonce>  you guys are amazing
[03:25] <runlevelten> Hang on, I thought pazy's problem was that nothing would detect his windows partition...
[03:25] <draik> Pity and empty remorse... the last resort of a lost soul
[03:25] <runlevelten> Ooh, wot a git.
[03:25] <frost0> draik: E: Sense auto is not understood, try true or false.
[03:25] <vzduch> draik: ?
[03:25] <solarwaver> can u write to any of the disks ?
[03:25] <frost0> draik: that is what i get
[03:25] <solarwaver> can u write to any of the disks ?
[03:25] <neusonce> *bows to vzdutch* i was wrong
[03:26] <draik> vzduch: in regards to neusonce
[03:26] <runlevelten> solarwaver: what do you mean?
[03:26] <vzduch> draik: '--autoremove'  w/o the dash in the middle
[03:26] <draik> frost0: You're on Kubuntu right?
[03:26] <draik> Ahh
[03:26] <draik> Thank you vzduch
[03:26] <draik> frost0: sudo apt-get remove --purge --autoremove konqueror && sudo apt-get install konqueror
[03:26] <runlevelten> I may play tremulous, methinks.
[03:26] <draik> frost0: My apologies for my typo
[03:27] <draik> runlevelten: I have not played that in a while.
[03:27] <draik> runlevelten: I get fragged quickly. Oh well
[03:27] <runlevelten> or call of duty united offensive if I can be bothered to install it :)
[03:27] <frost0> draik: E: Command line option --autoremove is not understood
[03:27] <runlevelten> draik: Yep, that's trem for ya, heh. Still ufn though :)
[03:27] <runlevelten> *fun
[03:28] <vzduch> but I did play Supertux.. need some additional levels ;)
[03:28] <frost0> draik: :P
[03:28] <gdholding> hallo leute ich hab eine frage
[03:28] <frost0> draik: i <3 konsole
[03:28] <vzduch> gdholding: hier in Englisch bitte :)
[03:29] <gdholding> ich bin in einem netz mit 192.168.x.x
[03:29] <vzduch> gdholding: schl dder :/
[03:29] <gdholding> ich bin momentan in 192.168.4.xxx
[03:29] <draik> frost0: sudo apt-get remove --purge konqueror && sudo apt-get install konqueror
[03:29] <gdholding> und ich mchte auf einem rechner aus dem 192.168.111.xxx
[03:29] <draik> I <3 CLI as well, but I just wish I knew it better :)
[03:29] <gdholding> kreis zugreifen ???
[03:29] <vzduch> !de | gd
[03:29] <ubotu> gd: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:29] <vzduch> !de | gdholding
[03:29] <ubotu> gdholding: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:29] <vzduch> so
[03:30] <gdholding> im 4er kreis hab ich eine probs mit samba nur im 111er geht nichts
[03:31] <vzduch> gdholding: dayum, go to bed if you can't read or fix your IRC client if your hilight doesn't work.. but SPEAK ENGLISH IN HERE!!! ;)
[03:31] <underdog5004> seriously
[03:32] <neusonce> OMG THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU,  SORRY GUYS, i was up all night trying to figure out ubuntu 64bit,  untill i was told what i was trying to achive i might as well  be sacraficing small children for, so i installed kubuntu and becuase it was a clean install   i had to download a few things, basically im dead tired sorrry for any grief i put you though i wasent trying to be arrogant, i guess i was more tired than  i thouht
[03:33] <vzduch> neusonce: no offence taken :)
[03:33] <neusonce> vzdutch
[03:33] <underdog5004> whoa...happy much?
[03:33] <neusonce>  in away you just kinda saved my job
[03:34] <neusonce>  anyway....
[03:34] <neusonce> thank you
[03:34] <vzduch> neusonce: by the way.. it's enough if you type the first 2 or 3 characters of a nick and then press the Tab key.. then you will spell my nick correctly :)
[03:34] <frost0> draik: no luck, how about opera?
[03:34] <frost0> draik: how would i install that?
[03:34] <neusonce> <------------------------LINUX BABY
[03:34] <draik> frost0: sudo apt-get install opera
[03:35] <NickPresta> any idea why `uptime` is showing 2 users and `users` is showing just one?
[03:35] <frost0> draik: if i have flash working in konqueror do you think it will work in opera?
[03:36] <draik> I believe it might. Not 100% sure
[03:36] <flaccid> yeah flash works in opera
[03:36] <vzduch> NickPresta: same here.. guess it's counting the root account as well
[03:36] <flaccid> it can use the mozilla libflashplayer.so
[03:37] <NickPresta> vzduch, that must be it. I have used sudo in the last 10 minutes.
[03:37] <frost0> draik: how would i create the shortcut for opera?
[03:37] <draik> Shortcut to the desktop?
[03:37] <frost0> draik: yep
[03:38] <flaccid> it should install one in the kmenu then you can right click and copy the shortcut to desktop
[03:38] <frost0> flaccid, gracias. you were correcto
[03:38] <draik> There you go
[03:38] <flaccid> sorry to barge in like that
[03:39] <frost0> flaccid/draik
[03:39] <frost0> any ideas on ie only websites in linux?
[03:39] <vzduch> ?
[03:40] <frost0> i heard of ie4linux for something like that
[03:40] <flaccid> !ies4linux
[03:40] <Kr4t05> Is there anyway to rebuild the K-Menu, so things are organized properly?
[03:40] <ubotu> ies4linux is a script that quickly and effortlessly helps you install 3 versions of IE in Wine. Information can be found at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page including instructions specifically for Ubuntu. ies4linux is aimed at web designers and ie-only sites, so please, dont use any of the IEs to navigate! Use Firefox!
[03:41] <flaccid> frost0: ie7 support soon, well it exists now in the svn for ies4linux - a bit hacked
[03:42] <persen_> !mplayer
[03:42] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[03:42] <frost0> flaccid, how would i install the two dependencies: cabextract and wine?
[03:42] <persen_> !mplayer-plugin
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mplayer-plugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <flaccid> frost0: using apt-get
[03:42] <persen_> Any guides to install m player in firefox?
[03:42] <Kr4t05> !info mozilla-mplayer > persen_
[03:43] <persen_> tnx
[03:43] <Kr4t05> NP
[03:43] <frost0> flaccid: uh....apt-get install cabextract?
[03:43] <flaccid> !info cabextract
[03:43] <ubotu> cabextract: a program to extract Microsoft Cabinet files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-2 (feisty), package size 52 kB, installed size 184 kB
[03:43] <flaccid> yerp
[03:44] <Kr4t05> Anyone know how to reset the Kmenu?
[03:44] <BluesKaj> neusonce, BTW it doesn't really matter which country that the repos you are using is located in.. as long as the pkg manager installs the apps you want :)
[03:44] <flaccid> Kr4t05: try #kde i guess
[03:44] <raylu> BluesKaj, until you can't read a word of it. "Erase all files on all hard drives?"
[03:44] <Kr4t05> flaccid: will do.
[03:45] <persen_> nice, worked out of the box!
[03:45] <BluesKaj> raylu, ... ??
[03:45] <flaccid> Kr4t05: i guess you can make a fresh user/profile then copy that, but there should be a proper way imo
[03:45] <vzduch> BluesKaj: probably not, but it's wise to use mirrors near you :)
[03:45] <raylu> BluesKaj, lol, it's possible that the repos are localized and not in your language
[03:45] <Kr4t05> flaccid: Alright, let me see what #kde says, first.
[03:46] <BluesKaj> well, aussie or US , use the same language , and that was neusonce's problem... it's still english :)
[03:47] <vzduch> but for the English speakers, I wonder if there's any difference in the language besides the usual spelling deviations between en_US and en_GB
[03:47] <flaccid> yanks speak yank :p
[03:48] <raylu> lol...i suppose none of you have ever seen a paragraph-long bug report about the mispelling of "colour"
[03:48] <BluesKaj> not a lot , we here in Canada use mostly brit spellings , but it really doesn't make much diff..
[03:48] <vzduch> for the spoken language there can be considerable differences, I know that.. but for written?  I'm not sure
[03:48] <BluesKaj> as for the french in quebec , that's their prob :)
[03:49] <vzduch> yeah, fr_QC is said to sound like 17th-century French
[03:49] <vzduch> compared w/ fr_FR, that is
[03:49] <BluesKaj> we're talking about repositories , not the pc usage
[03:51] <vzduch> it's said to be easier to get into Canada if you speak French
[03:51] <vzduch> because of lower hurdles in Qubec
[03:52] <BluesKaj> vzduch, actually french in quebec has several dialects , and the educated types speak the kind of french i can actually understand , but the local vernacular french around here is almost unintelligible :)
[03:52] <raylu> or you could..not enter through quebec?
[03:53] <stoned> http://www.bigskyastroclub.org/pale_blue_dot.html
[03:53] <stoned> it makes you wonder
[03:54] <hero> !quicktime
[03:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:55] <BluesKaj> stoned, scary stuff
[03:56] <stoned> indeed
[03:56] <raylu> o.0
[03:59] <draik> stoned: I love seeing pictures like that. I wish I could find the picture of a planet from the nearest galaxy. Imagine an orange sitting on a table. Earth is too small to even notice next to this planet.
[03:59] <hamadooo> hi .. can someone help me to upgrade my ipw3945 wireless driver ... cuz i can't use the monitoring mode
[03:59] <stoned> http://www.diamonds.net/news/NewsItem.aspx?ArticleID=9219
[03:59] <kai_> this is my first day on linux
[03:59] <stoned> draik: very true
[03:59] <draik> Welcome kai_
[03:59] <hamadooo> kai_     ..... welcome
[04:00] <stoned> kai_: you are in for a treat
[04:00] <stoned> you are now using free software
[04:00] <kai_> I went through hell trying to figure out how to get GAIM to work lol
[04:00] <MaTiAz> Is there a way to watch divx streaming video on Linux?
[04:01] <draik> stoned: I think I found my fiance's wedding ring diamond!!! ;p
[04:01] <kai_> stoned - it still comes at a price, but it's a price I'm much more willing to pay than cash.
[04:01] <stoned> that maybe true
[04:01] <stoned> but GNU is free software
[04:01] <kai_> the price is learning how to use it, but that's also a benefit
[04:01] <stoned> not just money free, but completely and truely free in all senses
[04:01] <kai_> yeah I like it
[04:02] <kai_> I've already dived into learning how to use kDevelop
[04:02] <linux_user400354> is it possible to print from linux to a computer with vista thats sharing a printer without using a username and password for the work group?
[04:02] <underdog5004>  MaTiAz , you might want to check out jinzora2
[04:02] <underdog5004> that can stream just about anything
[04:03] <raylu> is it possible for you to hook up the printer to the linux machine?
[04:03] <NickPresta> linux_user400354, I do something similar by connecting to the Windows Shared Printer with SAMBA?
[04:03] <NickPresta> linux_user400354, and forget that question mark. >_>
[04:03] <raylu> NickPresta, if you're using the samba client, you need a password, i believe
[04:04] <NickPresta> raylu, the printer or user account on Windows does not have a password so I don't know it's a requirement. I don't know for sure though
[04:05] <raylu> that's what i thought too, but apparently i need a valid account
[04:06] <NickPresta> raylu, have you tried entering a blank username/password combination?
[04:06] <raylu> er...i'm using smbfs, how do i do that?
[04:06] <kai_> how do I find the drivers for my graphics card and mother board?
[04:06] <raylu> username="",password=""?
[04:06] <raylu> kai_, model?
[04:07] <NickPresta> raylu, to be quite honest, I don't know for sure. I used the printer wizard in system settings to setup my SAMBA shared printer.
[04:07] <kai_> raylu - my video card is a Leadtek nVIDIA 6600GT
[04:07] <raylu> check your fstab?
[04:07] <raylu> !nvidia | kai_
[04:07] <ubotu> kai_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:07] <ircusr> hi all
[04:07] <raylu> hi
[04:07] <kai_> raylu - and my mother board is ASUS K8V-SE Delux
[04:08] <hitmanWilly> kai_, unless something isn't working, you shouldn't need any mobo drivers
[04:08] <kai_> thanks ubotu
[04:08] <vzduch> !thanks | kai_
[04:08] <ubotu> kai_: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[04:08] <kai_> hitmanWilly - I wouldn't know so I thought I'd ask
[04:08] <kai_> ubotu - don't be so hard on yourself!
[04:09] <vzduch> bwaha
[04:09] <hitmanWilly> kai_, asus boards are usually very well supported, i've got one, btw
[04:10] <kai_> cool hitman
[04:11] <kai_> does GNOME have an IDE the way KDE does with KDevelop?
[04:11] <draik> !botsnack
[04:11] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[04:11] <hitmanWilly> kai_, not really, but kdevelop will run under it
[04:11] <hitmanWilly> kai_, anjuta is pretty good as well
[04:11] <kai_> can I use KDevelop to develop an GNOME application?
[04:12] <hitmanWilly> kai_, you can use it to develop pretty much anything, assuming you have the necessary dev libs
[04:12] <kai_> awesome
[04:12] <hitmanWilly> kai_, in the case of gnome, you would need gtk
[04:13] <kai_> gtk? ok
[04:13] <hitmanWilly> kai_, its probably going to be listed as gtk-dev or something similar
[04:14] <kai_> cool thanks
[04:14] <kai_> I'll keep that in mind. I'm going to learn to program in KDE first.
[04:15] <hitmanWilly> kai_, all it is is different widget sets
[04:15] <raylu> just learn to program for the console ^^
[04:15] <raylu> anything else is deadweight :D
[04:15] <hitmanWilly> raylu, :P agreed...
[04:15] <kai_> it's all interrelated and interconnected
[04:16] <raylu> no
[04:16] <raylu> the console connects everything
[04:16] <raylu> and gtk sucks :P
[04:16] <hitmanWilly> raylu, again, agreed :)
[04:16] <raylu> ^^
[04:16] <kai_> yes, but KDevelop will teach me how the console works
[04:16] <vzduch> good night people :9
[04:17] <NickPresta> night, vzduch
[04:17] <hitmanWilly> kai_, if you REALLY want to learn how it works, use kate or vim and compile by hand via gcc
[04:18] <NickPresta> hitmanWilly, not only that, but I find that you learn how to use your compiler too. I haven't used KDevelop extensively but when using gcc in a terminal, I learned a lot.
[04:18] <raylu> kai_, so can...python
[04:18] <kai_> I prefere to learn KDevelop first
[04:19] <hitmanWilly> kai_, kdevelop does python :)
[04:19] <kai_> cool
[04:19] <hitmanWilly> kai_, or C/C++, perl, ruby, etc...
[04:20] <kai_> I wanted to install Prime95 from the prime search website. I downloaded the source and I was able to find the source with main. But when I tried to run it using gcc I got all kinds of errors.
[04:20] <kai_> when I tried to compile it rather
[04:21] <kai_> it's like, how do I even use gcc to compile it? I'll just have to figure it out a little at a time.
[04:21] <hitmanWilly> kai_, look at the makefile and pick through that to see what options gcc needs
[04:21] <hitmanWilly> kai_, that's a good place to start
[04:22] <kai_> cool I'll do that
[04:23] <kai_> it's frustrating when I don't understand it. It feels like it's unnecessarily hairy and convoluted. But that's what I love about it.
[04:26] <theonlyl> hi
[04:26] <hitmanWilly> theonlyl, howdy
[04:26] <theonlyl> !seen stdin
[04:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen stdin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:26] <seraphangel> [%]  theonlyl, stdin (i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2) was last seen when Quitting from..::#kubuntu,#kde::.. Stating..::Remote closed the connection::.. [5hrs 7mins 8secs]  ago .$Bec(B$B~?(BUPP$B~?(B$Bec(B
[04:27] <theonlyl> hitmanWilly: how are you
[04:27] <hitmanWilly> theonlyl, just fine, you?
[04:29] <kai_> thanks guys I'll catch ya'll later!
[04:33] <hitmanWilly> kinda slow tonight
[04:35] <BluesKaj> interesting there's over 300 ppl onboard and nobody has a prob right now :)
[04:36] <theonlyl> anyone here knows much about wireless cracking?
[04:36] <theonlyl> artheros
[04:39] <BluesKaj> uhmm , cracking ....wrong chatfor that !
[04:39] <slacker403> Mem:        514452     494804      19648          0       8520     301316
[04:39] <slacker403> -/+ buffers/cache:     184968     329484
[04:39] <slacker403> Swap:      1212896          0    1212896
[04:39] <slacker403> how much mem is actually being used ?
[04:40] <NickPresta> slacker403, 184968
[04:40] <slacker403> is that without cache ?
[04:40] <NickPresta> its with
[04:40] <NickPresta> without, it's the number above it
[04:40] <slacker403> im saying how much ram is actually being used without all the cache
[04:40] <slacker403> what number ?
[04:41] <NickPresta> 494804
[04:41] <slacker403> so 494 MB of ram ?
[04:41] <slacker403> so with cache is uses less ram ?
[04:41] <slacker403> 184 mb you said and that is without cache as you said
[04:42] <slacker403> sorry with
[04:42] <slacker403> and 494 mb of ram is without ?
[04:42] <slacker403> not making sense
[04:42] <hitmanWilly> slacker403, the first number 184968 is without buffers/cache
[04:42] <slacker403> ok
[04:42] <slacker403> not bad
[04:42] <slacker403> almost my 150 mb mark
[04:42] <slacker403> plus i got all that extra crap enabled
[04:43] <hitmanWilly> slacker403, look at the beginning of the line, -/+ buffers/cache shows what order they're listed in
[04:43] <draik> Does anyone here have a pocketpc/smart phone?
[04:44] <hitmanWilly> theonlyl, here's a link to everything you need for that: http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/unix-koans/script-kiddie.html
[04:45] <Scorpaen> reconfig proftpd anyone??
[04:45] <jhutchins> slacker403: Dude, pastebin!
[04:45] <Scorpaen> i installed proftpd and at the end it asked me if i wanted it standalone or daemon. i made the wrong choices. how do i run that wizard again??
[04:45] <jhutchins> slacker403: You are SO lucky the ops are asleep.
[04:45] <jhutchins> !enter | slacker403
[04:45] <ubotu> slacker403: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:45] <jhutchins> When the whole gist of your question scrolls offscreen because you've got so many lines posted, it's pointless to try to scroll back and help you.
[04:46] <hitmanWilly> Scorpaen, you may try man proftpd or proftpd --help to get usage info
[04:47] <jhutchins> Scorpaen: What did you choose?
[04:47] <hitmanWilly> Scorpaen, or just purge and reinstall it
[04:47] <slacker403> where can i add a repo btw ?
[04:47] <jhutchins> Scorpaen: Or restore the stock config file and try again.
[04:47] <hitmanWilly> slacker403, /etc/sources.list
[04:47] <jhutchins> !easysources
[04:47] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:47] <slacker403> thanks
[04:48] <damian_> hi
[04:48] <Scorpaen> jhutchins, how do i purge it?
[04:48] <jhutchins> !repos } slacker403
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> slacker403, sorry/etc/apt/sources.list
[04:48] <Scorpaen> jhutchins, i'm new to Kubuntu
[04:48] <jhutchins> !repos | slacker403
[04:48] <ubotu> slacker403: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:48] <Scorpaen> came from GEntoo
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> Scorpaen, ah, k, sudo dpkg -P <package_name>
[04:49] <jhutchins> Scorpaen: Dunno how exactly you'd find the stock config file if you failed to make a backup prior to editing, but which option did you choose?
[04:49] <jhutchins> Scorpaen: Why are you running an ftp server anyway - are you running a honeypot to trap hackers?
[04:49] <damian_> i have tried to install mp3 support, however it cannot find libxine1-ffmpeg
[04:49] <damian_> can anyone help?
[04:50] <Scorpaen> jhutchins, i chose to run in xinetd vs standalone
[04:50] <Scorpaen> i DO NOT want that
[04:50] <Scorpaen> heh
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> jhutchins, *crackers, hacker != cracker :P
[04:50] <Scorpaen> also chose mysql support
[04:50] <jhutchins> damian_: Did you see the URL's above about easysources and repositories?
[04:50] <Scorpaen> jhutchins, mind your own business :P
[04:50] <damian_> yes
[04:50] <Scorpaen> and thanks for the help
[04:50] <Scorpaen> ;)
[04:50] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[04:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:50] <jhutchins> !mp3 | damian_
[04:50] <damian_> easysources?
[04:50] <ubotu> damian_: please see above
[04:50] <jhutchins> Opps that's gonna dupe.
[04:51] <jhutchins> Scorpaen: Well I could tell you how the standalone works as opposed to the daemon, but I guess I'll just tottle off to bed since you don't want help.
[04:51] <jhutchins> G'Night all.
[04:51] <Scorpaen> LOL
[04:55] <BluesKaj> Scorpaen, see what ys did ! :)
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> Scorpaen, anyway, did you try the purge and reinstall?
[04:56] <slacker403> how oid i install a .deb again dpkg -l dfdfdfd.deb ??????
[04:57] <hitmanWilly> slacker403, sudo dpkg -i <name_of_pkg>.deb
[04:57] <Scorpaen> hitmanWilly, worked like a charm
[04:57] <Scorpaen> :D
[04:58] <hitmanWilly> Scorpaen, the reason why is that a full purge vs regular remove wipes the config files as well
[04:58] <corevette> under kubuntu, what is the command to install .deb's
[04:58] <hitmanWilly> corevette, sudo dpkg -i <name_of_pkg>.deb
[04:59] <corevette> and what do i add if it has other dependencies
[04:59] <corevette> to install automatically
[04:59] <slacker403> can i install and also get dependcies
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> corevette, slacker403, first see if the pkg is in the repos, apt will pull in all necessary dependencies (usually)
[05:00] <corevette> pidgin
[05:00] <corevette> nope
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> corevette, install gaim from the repos, then install the pidgin deb, the gaim should pull in all of pidgin's deps from the repos
[05:02] <corevette> but isn't there a command to install dependencies?
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> corevette, hopefully
[05:02] <melkor> does anybody here have trouble copying files to usb devices?
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> corevette, not sure actually, man dpkg and find out :)
[05:04] <melkor> I just wrote almost 2 gigs to this thing, unmounted it and it forgot nearly half of the shit I wrote to it.
[05:04] <melkor> not to mention that the copying takes forever.
[05:04] <hitmanWilly> melkor, usb1 port?
[05:05] <melkor> It goes in spurts
[05:05] <melkor> no I'm pretty sure its 2
[05:05] <hitmanWilly> melkor, it almost sounds like the device itself is going bad
[05:06] <melkor> its a phone, and I just put a big card in and now it doesn't work well
[05:06] <melkor> but if I do an fsck it deosn't give me any errors
[05:07] <hitmanWilly> melkor, does it have any kind of drive activity light?
[05:07] <melkor> no
[05:07] <slacker403> whats that one package that installs basic make stuff ?
[05:07] <robotgeek> slacker403: build-essential
[05:07] <hitmanWilly> slacker403, build-essential
[05:07] <slacker403> ah yea
[05:08] <cloakable> :)
[05:08] <Kr4t05> I just discovered ZSH.
[05:08] <Kr4t05> It's nice.
[05:08] <hitmanWilly> melkor, well, a regular umount cmd should dump any data still in the buffer to the drive before it finishes, that's weird
[05:09] <slacker403> error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:09] <slacker403> doesnt every computer have this ?
[05:09] <melkor> lets say I had to type usbmodules --device /proc/bus/usb/001/001
[05:09] <slacker403> surely my freshly installed kubuntuy
[05:09] <melkor> do you think the last two numbers are important?
[05:09] <hitmanWilly> melkor, not sure, never used that cmd, lemme see...
[05:12] <BluesKaj> sacktime, ..nite all, take care
[05:12] <cpace> anyone here run Enlightenment for a window manager?
[05:13] <melkor> another thing that was wierd, I did a df -h and it said that 3.8 gigs of the 4 gigs were being used
[05:14] <melkor> its a 2 gig device
[05:14] <hitmanWilly> melkor, hmmmm
[05:15] <hitmanWilly> cpace, e16 or e17?
[05:15] <scotty> !lamp
[05:15] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:16] <cpace> e17
[05:16] <hitmanWilly> cpace, nope, never could get it to compile right
[05:16] <slacker403> this is bulllcrap
[05:16] <cpace> I used the packages for feisty
[05:16] <cpace> works well
[05:16] <hitmanWilly> cpace, windowmaker here :)
[05:16] <cpace> but after an update it hosed something in the personal settings
[05:17] <cpace> tried a dpkg-reconfigure and everything but just can't figure it out...will probably need to remove my ~/.e directory
[05:17] <scotty> anyone know of a good LAMP guide for Feisty?
[05:17] <cpace> just checking to  see if anyone know
[05:17] <cpace> ty for the response though hitmanWilly
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> cpace, try #enlightenment or #e17 or something
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> cpace, they'd probably know better than I would :)
[05:19] <cpace> I'm on there but no one is available :(
[05:19] <melkor> hey thanks for the time
[05:19] <cpace> ty though
[05:20] <cpace> I'll look for it tomorrow
[05:21] <slacker403> VirtualBox: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:21] <slacker403> what kind of error is this
[05:21] <slacker403> isnt this impossible ?
[05:25] <hitmanWilly> slacker403, not impossible, try find / -iname 'libstdc++*' and see where its installed
[05:25] <scotty> What's the command to unfreeze aptitude or whatever?
[05:25] <hitmanWilly> !aptfix | scotty
[05:25] <ubotu> scotty: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:25] <scotty> that
[05:25] <scotty> *that's it
[05:25] <scotty> thanks
[05:25] <hitmanWilly> np :)
[05:27] <digitalsky> hi, i'm new to kubuntu
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> digitalsky, howdy, and welcome :)
[05:28] <digitalsky> running into problem as soon as i booted from CD (7.04)
[05:28] <digitalsky> hi hitmanWilly
[05:28] <digitalsky> I got the "file protocol died unexpectedly" error and don't have any icons on the KDE desktop... so I can't install
[05:29] <slacker403> hitmanWilly: i mean isnt that installed by default with kubuntu ?
[05:29] <digitalsky> i've read that the error can be solved by using a smaller desktop wallpaper, but i'm booting from CD, so I don't know how to configure it to start with something else on the next reboot
[05:29] <hitmanWilly> digitalsky, try booting into safe graphics mode
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> slacker403, it should be, but the app might be looking in the wrong place for it
[05:30] <slacker403> damn
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> !find libstdc++
[05:30] <digitalsky> ok i'll try that
[05:30] <ubotu> Found: libstdc++5, libstdc++5-3.3-dev, libstdc++6, libstdc++6-4.1-dbg, libstdc++6-4.1-dev (and 12 others)
[05:30] <slacker403> hitmanWilly: wouldnt that call for a re compile ?
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> slacker403, probably, if you have to set the correct ./configure values
[05:31] <slacker403> ok mayb it wasnt installed
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> slacker403, ahh, you probably need the -dev version(s) if you're compiling
[05:32] <digitalsky> booting... another problem is sound isn't working, but one thing at a time i guess. i was hoping it would boot up and things would just work...
[05:32] <hitmanWilly> digitalsky, sometimes yes, sometimes no, just like anything else :)
[05:32] <digitalsky> btw my system is a celeron 300A (pentium 2), 1GB ram, with soundblaster 16 card
[05:33] <digitalsky> i gave up with freebsd after too many problems, and am now trying kubuntu
[05:33] <hitmanWilly> digitalsky, you may want to try a distro geared for older hw, like puppy or DSL
[05:34] <digitalsky> puppy? DSL?
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> digitalsky, kubuntu can be resource intensive, at least for linux
[05:34] <klobster> anyone know more about this: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/MountDisksByLabel
[05:34] <klobster> the part about root filesystem bug
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> klobster, sure, don't do it :P
[05:35] <digitalsky> would ubuntu be any better?
[05:35] <digitalsky> ie, is it a desktop thing?
[05:36] <klobster> hitmanWilly: I meant about the bug, what is that about?
[05:36] <hitmanWilly> digitalsky, kind of, but not really, gnome is almost as heavy as kde
[05:36] <hitmanWilly> klobster, not really sure, i don't really play around with init imgs
[05:37] <labrat265> anyone know how to get k3b to work with apple lossless files?
[05:37] <hitmanWilly> klobster, but ubuntu uses its own img so it might work ok
[05:38] <labrat265> or know a program to convert them?
[05:39] <klobster> try the ubuntu alternative cd with fcwm as the window manager
[05:39] <hitmanWilly> *fvwm
[05:40] <hitmanWilly> :)
[05:40] <labrat265> ok, i'll give that a try, thanks
[05:40] <hitmanWilly> labrat265, ?
[05:40] <scotty> oh crap
[05:40] <digitalsky> is it worse than freebsd? i had freebsd 6.2 + kde and things loaded up ok, but stuff here and there are not working and thats why i swtiched
[05:41] <klobster> labrat265: no not you, digitalsky
[05:41] <digitalsky> i booted with safe graphics, got a blank screen with a cursor only
[05:41] <hitmanWilly> scotty, problem?
[05:42] <hitmanWilly> digitalsky, as in a cmd prompt or just a blinking cursor and nothing else?
[05:42] <stoned> hahaha
[05:42] <stoned> klobster
[05:42] <stoned> what a nick
[05:42] <scotty> hitmanWilly: I just used this command: sudo tasksel remove lamp-server and it started removing a whole bunch of programs. It got adept and akregator and like 3 more, but I didn't have time to read those. Closed konsole as quick as possibly
[05:42] <labrat265> yeah, i just realzed that that was not meant for me.
[05:42] <labrat265> lol
[05:42] <klobster> stoned: ?
[05:43] <labrat265> no, i wish
[05:43] <labrat265> just too tired
[05:43] <stoned> all that you know burns away into dust
[05:43] <labrat265> HAHA! ok, i am obviously having problems
[05:43] <hitmanWilly> scotty, did you have kubuntu-desktop installed before hand, or is this a server install?
[05:44] <scotty> I had kubuntu-desktop installed I think
[05:44] <scotty> I'm just on a normal version of Kubuntu
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> scotty, reinstall it, it should pull in anything you lost
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> scotty, it sounds like it was removing stuff from there
[05:45] <klobster> labrat265: do you have the alac codec installed
[05:45] <scotty> hitmanWilly: I get errors
[05:45] <hitmanWilly> scotty, can you pastebin them?
[05:45] <hitmanWilly> !paste | scotty
[05:45] <ubotu> scotty: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:46] <digitalsky> hitmanWilly: just blinking cursor and nothing else
[05:46] <klobster> digitalsky: fvwm is just a lighter window manager, and the alternative cd is designed for older or less popular hardware
[05:46] <scotty> hitmanWilly: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31203/
[05:46] <hitmanWilly> digitalsky, yeah, try the alt cd, it has an ncurses installer
[05:46] <klobster> stoned: lobster was taken, and I figured "hey it works for kde, why not me?"
[05:46] <digitalsky> klobster: ok
[05:46] <digitalsky> hmm
[05:47] <hitmanWilly> scotty, did you try sudo apt-get -f install?
[05:47] <labrat265> klobster:  where do I find that, adept?
[05:48] <hitmanWilly> !medibuntu | labrat265
[05:48] <ubotu> labrat265: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[05:49] <scotty> hitmanWilly: It says it could not resolve any of my sources
[05:49] <stoned> lol
[05:49] <hitmanWilly> scotty, have you been monkeying around with sources.list?
[05:49] <scotty> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/h/hal/hal_0.5.8.1-4ubuntu12_i386.deb  Could not resolve 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'
[05:49] <stoned> klobster: its cute
[05:49] <scotty> hitmanWilly: No, I've added one a long time ago
[05:49] <scotty> it's been working until that one thing happened
[05:50] <hitmanWilly> scotty, try ping us.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:50] <hitmanWilly> scotty, see if that responds
[05:50] <scotty> it does
[05:50] <klobster> labrat265: yeah, ap-get instal alac-decoder
[05:50] <hitmanWilly> scotty, ok, so you're dns settings aren't borked, that's good
[05:51] <scotty> hitmanWilly: So what should I do now?
[05:51] <klobster> *apt-get
[05:51] <hitmanWilly> scotty, you may try regenerating sources.list
[05:51] <scotty> hitmanWilly: How?
[05:51] <hitmanWilly> !sourceomatic | scotty
[05:51] <ubotu> scotty: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:52] <hitmanWilly> :)
[05:52] <scotty> kk
[05:53] <hitmanWilly> scotty, since the server is up and your network settings appear to be in order, that's the next logical place to start
[05:53] <hitmanWilly> s/start/go
[05:54] <lewix> stdin
[05:54] <scotty> hitmanWilly: Okay, regenerated and saved. Now what?
[05:54] <hitmanWilly> scotty, try apt-get -f install again
[05:55] <scotty> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[05:55] <scotty> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[05:55] <hitmanWilly> scotty, with sudo :)
[05:55] <scotty> oh
[05:55] <scotty> XD
[05:55] <scotty> srry
[05:55] <scotty> *sorry
[05:55] <scotty> hitmanWilly: I still get Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/h/hal/hal_0.5.8.1-4ubuntu12_i386.deb  Could not resolve 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'
[05:55] <hitmanWilly> scotty, sudo apt-get -f install
[05:55] <scotty> on all of them
[05:55] <hitmanWilly> hmmmm
[05:56] <hitmanWilly> hold on...
[05:56] <scotty> kk
[05:57] <hitmanWilly> ok, its working here, i mean konq is trying to download the deb
[05:57] <scotty> so what should I do?
[05:57] <hitmanWilly> scotty, try sudo dpkg --configure -a, see if that helps any
[05:58] <klobster> hey the bind9 patch just hit the servers, everyone apt-get upgrade
[05:58] <hitmanWilly> scotty, it probably won't, but give it a shot anyway
[05:58] <scotty> hitmanWilly: Nope
[05:58] <firecrotch> This is going to probably make me sound like a moron, but... How can I change Konsole to use /bin/zsh instead of /bin/bash ?
[05:58] <scotty> hitmanWilly: Same error.
[05:58] <scotty> After I do sudo apt-get -f install
[05:58] <hitmanWilly> firecrotch, change your users default shell
[05:59] <scotty> hitmanWilly: I think it might've uninstalled apt ...
[05:59] <scotty> If that makes sense?
[05:59] <hitmanWilly> firecrotch, and relogin
[05:59] <scotty> It started uninstalling a lot of stuff that started with a
[05:59] <firecrotch> hitmanWilly: Thank you! :)
[06:00] <hitmanWilly> scotty, no, if apt uninstalled, you would be getting a cmd not found
[06:00] <scotty> oh, okay
[06:01] <hitmanWilly> scotty, well, im rapidly becoming as confused as you :(
[06:01] <scotty> hitmanWilly: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31205/ That error help?
[06:02] <stoned> someone help please
[06:02] <stoned> I have a very serious problem
[06:02] <hitmanWilly> scotty, well, you uninstalled adept, that's not good
[06:02] <scotty> yeah ...
[06:02] <stoned> I can't seem to breath out of my nose.  I've used vicks and still no luck.  It is very frustrating.
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> scotty, but it shouldn't affect apt, unless it got part of apt, but not all
[06:03] <digitalsky> if i dun see the install icon, can i still install it? what's the command?
[06:03] <stoned> I am sleepy, I hope I don't suffocate during the night
[06:03] <scotty> hitmanWilly: So what are my options?
[06:03] <digitalsky> i don't want to bother with DLing a new disc and doing it again
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> scotty, ok, crazy idea, try sudo aptitude -f install
[06:04] <scotty> hitmanWilly: still could not resolve
[06:04] <hitmanWilly> crap
[06:04] <hitmanWilly> ok, brb, will ponder over a cancer stick...
[06:04] <scotty> kk
[06:04] <stoned> kkk
[06:05] <stoned> wtf is kk
[06:05] <stoned> you can't just type ok instead
[06:05] <stoned> moving your finger 1cm over is so hard?
[06:05] <digitalsky> lol
[06:06] <klobster> yy
[06:06] <stoned> scotty 2 hotty
[06:07] <lewix> stdin
[06:07] <imslow3r> i can't see shit capton
[06:07] <Admiral_Chicago> please keep all conversation on topic (kubuntu support)
[06:07] <Admiral_Chicago> imslow3r: please watch the language
[06:08] <imslow3r> mmk i'm soz
[06:08] <scotty> stoned: Dude, shut up or go away. This channel is for support.
[06:08] <scotty> I'm sorry to be rude
[06:08] <scotty> But you're being rather immature.
[06:09] <stoned> you are right. I am wrong.  you are very good looking and I am very ugly.  kk is better than saying ok.  you win, have at it.
[06:10] <imslow3r> wai 2 b man
[06:12] <hitmanWilly> scotty, ok, there are a couple of options here that i can think of
[06:13] <hitmanWilly> scotty, you can try wget on the individual deb pkgs and installing them via dpkg
[06:13] <mankeletor> hey buddies, what's the kubuntu package manager?
[06:13] <stoned> kpackage
[06:14] <hitmanWilly> mankeletor, adept is the gui one
[06:14] <hitmanWilly> mankeletor, or apt-get/dpkg from cmd line
[06:14] <mankeletor> sorry but the stupid question, im newbbie with kubuntu
[06:14] <mankeletor> thanks hitmanWilly
[06:14] <scotty> hitmanWilly: Can you give me a command or directions? I'm pretty new to Linux.
[06:14] <imslow3r> anyone know much about start up services look at my help thred about my keybord thanks http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=508847
[06:15] <hitmanWilly> scotty, do you have /home on a seperate partition?
[06:15] <scotty> hitmanWilly: No.
[06:15] <hitmanWilly> scotty, well, i hate to say this, but you may be down to a reinstall if something serious got dumped
[06:15] <mankeletor> hitmanWilly: do I need to refresh the package database after the first install? Install is about 90% right now
[06:16] <scotty> What about the wget thing?
[06:16] <scotty> @ hitmanWilly
[06:16] <imslow3r> I have a question how come when i'm copying files over in KDE theres no status bar lol
[06:16] <MarcC> how can I change my Qt theme? It's different from the KDE theme and hard to read.
[06:16] <hitmanWilly> scotty, that would involve using wget to download all the individual debs and installing them manually through dpkg
[06:16] <lewix> how do I update a specific package
[06:17] <lewix> apt-get update package/
[06:17] <lewix> ?
[06:17] <mankeletor> my version is Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty)
[06:17] <stoned> no
[06:17] <hitmanWilly> mankeletor, its a good idea, to see if anything has been updated
[06:17] <klobster> hey is there an easy way to sync my konq and ff bookmarks?
[06:17] <stoned> !pinning
[06:17] <ubotu> pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[06:18] <stoned> update && upgrade after pinning the version you want
[06:18] <imslow3r> klobster have you herd of del.lic.ous or somthin like that
[06:19] <stoned> or digg
[06:19] <hitmanWilly> klobster, you can import the FF ones into konq, not sure if you can actively sync them
[06:19] <klobster> imslow3r: why?
[06:19] <lewix> stoned, please be clear im a newbie
[06:19] <imslow3r> its a socail bookmarking website
[06:20] <jimmy_> it's
[06:20] <jimmy_> cool
[06:20] <jimmy_> i'm not a hacker
[06:20] <deliverance> Hey....
[06:20] <hitmanWilly> klobster, im pretty sure they use different formats, otherwise id say just symlink them
[06:20] <stoned> jimmy_: read the page ubotu said
[06:21] <jimmy_> ok
[06:21] <deliverance> Does anyone know an easy to configure GUI based ftp server for Ubuntu?
[06:21] <scotty> hitmanWilly: I think I'm just gonna reinstall :(
[06:21] <hitmanWilly> scotty, sorry, i know the pain of that :(
[06:21] <stoned> deliverance: install vsftpd and edit /etc/vsftpd
[06:21] <scotty> gah
[06:22] <stoned> deliverance: the conf file is ver well commented
[06:22] <scotty> hitmanWilly: What's the easiest way to backup my /home/scotty/ folder?
[06:22] <stoned> deliverance: vsftpd is very excellent and easy to configure
[06:22] <mankeletor> Install finishied, be right back guys... thanks for the support =)
[06:22] <scotty> I don't have a flash drive big enough.
[06:22] <hitmanWilly> scotty, cp it to an external drive
[06:22] <scotty> hitmanWilly: no external drive
[06:23] <hitmanWilly> scotty, or a DVD if its less than 4GB
[06:23] <scotty> hitmanWilly: old computer, no dvd burner
[06:23] <imslow3r> use google for storage slow as hell though lol
[06:23] <deliverance> stoned.
[06:23] <scotty> It's like 1.2gb ... not worth uploading
[06:23] <hitmanWilly> scotty, ugh, you may be borked then, at least you can put the really important files on a flash drive/cd
[06:24] <deliverance> I tried that it didn't set up any users.
[06:24] <stoned> deliverance: read the documentation
[06:24] <imslow3r> 1.2 gb is like the perfect amount to upload lol
[06:24] <hitmanWilly> scotty, and this time, you'll know to put /home on its own partition :)
[06:24] <deliverance> Ok thanks stoned, does anyone know a GUI based one?
[06:24] <scotty> hitmanWilly: How do I do that?
[06:25] <hitmanWilly> scotty, use manual partitioning on reinstall
[06:25] <MarcC> bam, found it...qtconfig-qt4
[06:25] <elite101> is 32kbps dial up and good? i was going to get that its pretty fast?
[06:25] <elite101> like 4$ a month
[06:25] <elite101> 600min
[06:25] <neusonce> whats the name of the fireall app in kubuntu?
[06:25] <neusonce> firewall*
[06:26] <hitmanWilly> elite101, that's S...L....O....W....
[06:26] <elite101> lol i know
[06:26] <imslow3r> google the rtfm you assles
[06:26] <elite101> but sometimes thats allmy wireless can do!!!
[06:26] <MarcC> elite101: 32kbps is 4KB per second...typical dialup
[06:26] <elite101> wholy
[06:26] <elite101> 25mb in 2days
[06:27] <hitmanWilly> elite101, ive got 400k and that's almost too slow :)
[06:27] <MarcC> $4/month is about right, btw
[06:27] <MarcC> but it should be unlimited, no time limit
[06:27] <imslow3r> get like 5 phone lines connected with a token ring ethernet
[06:27] <MarcC> elite101: which country do you live in?
[06:27] <elite101> canada
[06:27] <elite101> the greatest country in the world
[06:28] <MarcC> I've got some maple syrup from there ;)
[06:28] <imslow3r> hell yeah our dollar is higher then the usa right now
[06:28] <elite101> hahaha
[06:28] <imslow3r> eat the loonie!
[06:28] <elite101> that means PSP IS GOING TO BE 159$
[06:28] <MarcC> my neighbor gave it to me for watering her @#$@# plants
[06:28] <hitmanWilly> its just like the US, minus the poltical baggage :)
[06:29] <neusonce> lucky, cable broadband in australia cant excede more than 200kb even though its  promoted as 15mgs
[06:29] <stoned> MarcC: haha, o yea o yea
[06:29] <hitmanWilly> elite101, you know how to make something canadian, right?
[06:29] <neusonce> i have a 300k plan and it wont go anyfaster than 54kbs
[06:29] <hitmanWilly> elite101, take something american and fsck it up...*ducks*
[06:29] <stoned> I have a 10mbit down and I usually go at about 1.0MB/s
[06:29] <deliverance> Is there an easy way to set upa  quick ftp server.
[06:30] <hitmanWilly> elite101, j/k
[06:30] <vbhide> could anybody help me with logitech usb speakers?
[06:30] <stoned> deliverance: it would do you well to read
[06:31] <deliverance> It's an ftp server?! It's a shareware app! a 50 second install!
[06:31] <dthacker> deliverance: read the nice package descriptions, they are important.....
[06:31] <elite101> what
[06:31] <stoned> deliverance: seems like you're looking for a pointy clicky way out.  Sure, if you want to do just that, then have at it, but remember, true power of linux lies in knowledge.
[06:31] <deliverance> Want to do it in windows? here go to cnet.com get serv-u.
[06:31] <elite101> i didnt get that duck tape?
[06:31] <stoned> deliverance: read the vsftpd documentation
[06:31] <elite101> hey
[06:31] <elite101> i know
[06:31] <elite101> how do u disable album art in wmp11?
[06:31] <stoned> deliverance: if you can't be bothered to read how to setup an ftp server, maybe you shouldn't set one up
[06:31] <stoned> s/an/a
[06:32] <deliverance> Ok I'm going I'm reading, but this isn't a skillset I care about... ftp setup. Some guy with win2k will say "this is a 2 second job"
[06:32] <dthacker> vbhide:  I have never heard of USB speakers.   sorry
[06:32] <vbhide> even a lot of googling doesnt help!
[06:33] <hitmanWilly> why would anybody even want USB speakers?
[06:33] <imslow3r> yeah the inventor should be shot in the face
[06:33] <vbhide> it was a gift
[06:33] <hitmanWilly> its just an extra layer of software for the sound to go through
[06:34] <dthacker> hitmanWilly: because some PC's don't come with any other kind of connection
[06:34] <hitmanWilly> dthacker, any pc with sound should at least have a headphone jack
[06:34] <imslow3r> what PC would that B?
[06:34] <dthacker> hitmanWilly: you would think.....
[06:35] <stoned> you could use usb speaker when you need sound amplified but can't provide power
[06:35] <stoned> battery or dc adapter
[06:35] <dthacker> imslow3r: the pwiw just got some Dell desktops.  No serial, no ps2, no parallel..  Just USB and ethernet
[06:35] <stoned> so you can draw power from usb and at least amplify the sound a bit
[06:35] <hitmanWilly> Dell, there ya go...
[06:35] <stoned> used mostly on laptops since the speakers suck and it needs to be portable
[06:36] <stoned> usb speakers are quite useful and better than headphones at most times
[06:37] <stoned> I think that is why people might want usb speakers hitmanWilly
[06:37] <hitmanWilly> stoned, maybe...
[06:38] <imslow3r> manufactures should inclued fiber or sid/f coaxil on all computers
[06:38] <stoned> I think its time we developed optical cpus
[06:38] <stoned> this increasing cpu heat and the cost for a good heatsink is retarded
[06:38] <stoned> not to mention the weight of the pc
[06:39] <imslow3r> then implant it in your eye
[06:39] <stoned> what?
[06:39] <imslow3r> lol jk
[06:39] <imslow3r> i joke...
[06:40] <imslow3r> the eye is the closet connection to the brain
[06:40] <imslow3r> through the optic nerbe
[06:40] <imslow3r> nerve
[06:40] <stoned> reality is defined not by vision, but by all our senses.  Modify your senses, and you can modify reality.
[06:41] <stoned> relativistically
[06:41] <Admiral_Chicago> !offtopic
[06:41] <hitmanWilly> stoned, hence the nick :P
[06:41] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:42] <imslow3r> i disagree ubotu
[06:42] <MarcC> sweet, I'll bet kubuntu-offtopic is totally dead ;)
[06:42] <stoned> nazism.
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> isn't it always :)
[06:43] <firecrotch> !awn
[06:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about awn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:43] <imslow3r> !chuck
[06:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chuck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <firecrotch> Okay, I just installed AWN and I'm having a few problems
[06:44] <hitmanWilly> !find awn
[06:44] <MarcC> !jimmy_hoffa
[06:44] <ubotu> File awn found in afterstep, apparmor-profiles, ax25-tools, heartbeat-2, libace-doc (and 5 others)
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jimmy_hoffa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <firecrotch> AWN preferences won't work at all
[06:44] <stoned> this bot doesn't know much does it
[06:44] <MarcC> well, I've got a lead on Hoffa...it can't be that bad
[06:45] <hitmanWilly> !info AWN
[06:45] <ubotu> Package awn does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:45] <hitmanWilly> !info awn
[06:45] <inteliwasp> does anyone have a guide on how to share internet access from 1 machine to a router?
[06:46] <Lynoure> hitmanWilly: What's awn? (other than the bristle of barley)
[06:46] <pagan0ne> im having a very intresting problem with adept.... it says that the apt database is in use, however its not, and dpkg-reconfigure -a doesnt help?
[06:47] <firecrotch> Lynoure: Avant Window Navigator.  It's a dock utility, like in OS X
[06:47] <hitmanWilly> firecrotch, k, gotcha
[06:47] <MarcC> does awn work in a non-composited environment?
[06:47] <firecrotch> MarcC: Nope
[06:47] <imslow3r> pagan0ne: try killing any processes in ps ?
[06:47] <hitmanWilly> was wodering myself :)
[06:47] <inteliwasp> pagan0ne: run this in a console:  "ps -ef | grep adept"
[06:47] <pagan0ne> imslow3r: yeah
[06:48] <hitmanWilly> !aptfix | pagan0ne run the whole cmd
[06:48] <ubotu> pagan0ne run the whole cmd: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:48] <Lynoure> firecrotch: oh, that. I think even it's website said it's unlikely to ever be finished... until the author thinks it's usable, it usually does not end up in even Debian
[06:49] <firecrotch> Lynoure: Actually, it's supposedly very stable now
[06:49] <Lynoure> firecrotch: If you know it well, you could help hitmanWilly find it and get it?
[06:50] <firecrotch> Lynoure:  I don't know it well at all. in fact, I just installed it, and it works, but I can't change any settings
[06:51] <hitmanWilly> Lynoure, i was just looking to see if i could help firecrotch with it :P
[06:51] <hitmanWilly> Lynoure, but thanks for the thought :)
[06:55] <Lynoure> hitmanWilly: Oh :)
[06:55] <firecrotch> I was able to solve the problem... I can just edit settings with gconf-editor
[06:56] <imslow3r> a gnome control app in kubuntu :-(
[06:57] <firecrotch> imslow3r: Yeah, I know... it hurt to even have to type "sudo apt-get install gconf-editor"
[06:58] <imslow3r> when i'm a devloper i'll develop that out of existence
[06:59] <imslow3r> devlopers devlopers devlopers devlopers
[07:00] <imslow3r> devlopers devlopers devlopers devlopers
[07:00] <kory_> anyone have trouble installing KDE4 alpha 2 from backports?... I get errors when I get to 'kde4base' and 'kde4base-data', complaining about files already being in 'kdelibs5'
[07:00] <labrat265> anyone here know how to get k3b to burn apple lossless?
[07:01] <lordofthepigs> Hello! I've just installed compiz fusion, and everything works great.
[07:01] <lordofthepigs> I just have a question
[07:01] <lordofthepigs> what's the <super> key?
[07:01] <pagan0ne> lordofthepigs: windows key
[07:01] <lordofthepigs> Hmm... then it doesn't work very well..
[07:02] <imslow3r> lordofthepigs: did you use a guide cus i wanna do the same , can you hand me the link?
[07:02] <pagan0ne> lordofthepigs: do you have the part your tryung to use enabled
[07:02] <lordofthepigs> imslow3r: let me look in my history
[07:02] <labrat265> i just downloaded the medibuntu stuff and it did not help
[07:03] <lordofthepigs> hmm... The guide I used said the things I'm trying should work out of the box
[07:03] <imslow3r> link 4 tha guide plz
[07:03] <lordofthepigs> imslow3r: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481314&highlight=compiz+fusion
[07:04] <lordofthepigs> pagan0ne: Where can I configure compiz?
[07:04] <pagan0ne> lordofthepigs: try compiz-settings at the console
[07:04] <lordofthepigs> imslow3r: make sure you read the thread once you followed the guide, they have a lot of troubleshooting info in there
[07:05] <lordofthepigs> pagan0ne: I don't have that
[07:05] <DarkRamon> hello..
[07:05] <pagan0ne> lordofthepigs: try ccsm
[07:05] <labrat265> is there a program that can convert apple lossless?
[07:06] <lordofthepigs> Oh... cool!
[07:06] <lordofthepigs> thanks pagan0ne!
[07:07] <pagan0ne> lordofthepigs: np, for someone who doesnt know alot about compiz (me) i can sometimes be helpful...
[07:08] <magpie> hai
[07:08] <magpie> no one here
[07:08] <pagan0ne> were here
[07:08] <magpie> oh gread
[07:08] <magpie> hehe
[07:10] <DarkRamon> hello everyone.... i need someone familiar with cedega
[07:10] <DarkRamon> people from cedega never answers me
[07:10] <magpie> hai
[07:10] <DarkRamon> and i hae some issues with fifa 2005
[07:10] <pagan0ne> DarkRamon: i wouldnt say im fimiliar with it, but i used to use winex back in the day
[07:10] <DarkRamon> great
[07:10] <DarkRamon> pagan? u do wicca or stregheria?
[07:11] <gandhii> why can't I find a "copy file" command in the bash help or info listings?
[07:11] <pagan0ne> i prefer not to ascribe to any "brand" however closly follor wicca
[07:11] <DarkRamon> cool :) i used to practice stregheria
[07:11] <pagan0ne> gandhii: its called cp
[07:11] <Lynoure> hmmm, Adept just does not start now. No error, nothing. It muses for a bit and quits before asking for the password
[07:12] <DarkRamon> the thing is that when I'm trying to run fifa 2005 with wine it loads the menus and everything but when the match starts, it shows me no players hahahahha they are all invisible
[07:12] <pagan0ne> Lynoure: try starting it from a console... sudo adept_manager
[07:12] <DarkRamon> if i try with cedega, the menus are blank... like white frames everywhere
[07:12] <gandhii> thanks...
[07:13] <Lynoure> pagan0ne: doing that now
[07:13] <pagan0ne> DarkRamon: is the game supposed to be supported under winex now?
[07:13] <gandhii> really weird how the man lists that info
[07:13] <DarkRamon> yeah... i found it somewhere... and asked the cedega people and they told me it should run fine since fifa 2006 runs too
[07:14] <pagan0ne> gandhii: man stands for manual, its simply a book on commands and how to use them, unless you know the command, man usually wont help much
[07:14] <Lynoure> pagan0ne: with adept_updater, though, and kdesu
[07:14] <gandhii> yea..  ironic
[07:14] <gandhii> that last part
[07:14] <pagan0ne> Lynoure: any output? try plain sudo if it just hangs again
[07:14] <Lynoure> and my it is taking long to do anything at all
[07:15] <pagan0ne> DarkRamon: well it is beyond me, however i wouldnt assume that because 06 worked that 05 would too...
[07:15] <DarkRamon> yeah... but
[07:15] <DarkRamon> is there anyway to start the game using wine and forcing open gl?
[07:16] <Lynoure> pagan0ne: works with sudo, not with kdesu. Should work with both, I think, and adept_notifier launches it with kdesu, I bet. hmph, I wonder what ate my kdesu.
[07:16] <DarkRamon> i think it has to do with pixel shader or something but i tried to remove it and still didnt work
[07:16] <pagan0ne> DarkRamon: well like i said im no expert, just played around with winex back in the day, so that would be a question for the wine people
[07:16] <DarkRamon> ahhhhh ok
[07:16] <DarkRamon> and on winex what would you do if it happened?
[07:16] <hitmanWilly> Lynoure, you could try a reinstall?
[07:16] <pagan0ne> Lynoure: i have the same problem occasionaly, sometimes it just works fine, im not a dev so i cant help with that, just have a temp workaround
[07:17] <pagan0ne> hitmanWilly: i hate the idea of having to reinstall over any little thing
[07:17] <neusonce> dose anybody  know a  way of downloading and installing java in the terminal ?
[07:17] <hitmanWilly> well, i have sudo (and therefore kdesu) disabled here
[07:17] <pagan0ne> DarkRamon: well if i was running winex and that happend, i would assume the dev's hadnt included enough directx support yet for the game, as winex was very beta
[07:17] <Lynoure> hitmanWilly: not without stracing the daylight out of it
[07:18] <DarkRamon> :( ok
[07:18] <hitmanWilly> so not sure how much more help i'll be :)
[07:18] <Lynoure> hitmanWilly: I'm too curious to just reinstall without knowing what is wrong :)
[07:18] <DarkRamon> ill see if i can try something else :P thanks anyways bro
[07:18] <DarkRamon> :)
[07:18] <DarkRamon> see ya
[07:18] <pagan0ne> good luck
[07:18] <hitmanWilly> Lynoure, maybe a config file got messed up somewhere along the line?
[07:18] <Lynoure> I'll first try other kdesu things, to see if that goes the same way
[07:19] <pagan0ne> Lynoure: kdesu works fine for me on almost everything except anything todo with apt
[07:19] <Lynoure> hitmanWilly: I have not modified it... it should not just mess itself
[07:19] <pagan0ne> then its hit or miss
[07:19] <Lynoure> pagan0ne: for me so far it has worked reliably every time
[07:19] <hitmanWilly> Lynoure, if it ever crashed it might have
[07:19] <mimik> can you use the mount command to mount an iso file?
[07:20] <hitmanWilly> !iso | mimik yes you can
[07:20] <ubotu> mimik yes you can: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[07:20] <mimik> thanks
[07:20] <hitmanWilly> np
[07:21] <neusonce> dose anyone know how i can install a tor package ?
[07:21] <Lynoure> hitmanWilly: Do you know where it is? nothing in .kde/share/config for kdesu and man kdesu gives no location either
[07:22] <joab> what is a tor? Transcript of Records?
[07:22] <hitmanWilly> Lynoure, nope, like I said, don't use it myself
[07:22] <hitmanWilly> the only tor i know of is 'the onion router'
[07:22] <pagan0ne> anyway, im out, good luck guts,thanks for the help
[07:22] <Lustblader> hi every1
[07:23] <Lustblader> i'm on konversation
[07:23] <hitmanWilly> Lynoure, sometimes info gives more info than man
[07:23] <mimik> tor? that anonymous surfer project thingy?
[07:23] <elite101> going to bed night
[07:24] <hitmanWilly> as far as i can tell, tor basically just routes through multiple proxies
[07:24] <neusonce> yes hit man thats it
[07:25] <neusonce> but i think i found away
[07:25] <gandhii> when testing display settings... and it goes into that grey screen with your pointer shaped like an "x"...  how do you exit out of that .. and go back to the desktop display?
[07:25] <elite101> u wont belive this conversation i had with this person over at ##windows so fake
[07:25] <elite101> i will show in the morining
[07:26] <Lustblader> windows has an irc room?
[07:26] <Lustblader> ??
[07:26] <robotgeek> !windows
[07:26] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[07:26] <hitmanWilly> gandhii, ctrl-alt-bksp
[07:26] <Lynoure> reinstalling kdesu would be reinstalling kde-base, ugh.
[07:26] <gandhii> thanks.
[07:26] <Lynoure> oops, kdebase-bin
[07:27] <gandhii> I was searching through the help file.. and that section was all blank..   where am I suppose to be going to answer these basic type questions?
[07:28] <Lustblader> who the hell said ctrl-alt-bkspace??
[07:28] <Lustblader> darn
[07:28] <Lustblader> u shoulda warned me before
[07:30] <crazy_bus> can anyone tell me if the ubuntu apt-get mirror for australia is down. or if's just my computer that can't get any sources or files from it
[07:30] <Lynoure> hitmanWilly: I just <3 strace. It seems the cause was a non-responsive kdesud
[07:31] <Lustblader> maybe ur comp is already up to date
[07:32] <hitmanWilly> Lynoure, there ya go, the daemon crashed/locked
[07:33] <Lynoure> hitmanWilly: killing it got it restarted and all 5 dialogues popped up
[07:33] <hitmanWilly> say what you want about linux, but it does make troubleshooting so much easier :)
[07:34] <Lynoure> hitmanWilly: the other things I'd say are not bad either =)
[07:35] <hitmanWilly> Lynoure, virus? what's that? :P
[07:36] <hitmanWilly> anyway, back on topic...
[07:36] <Lynoure> hitmanWilly: confused me now...
[07:36] <hitmanWilly> Lynoure, nvm, my sense of humor is still in beta...
[07:36] <Lynoure> hitmanWilly: I'm totally sure that once Linux becomes truly mainstream, viruses will start arriving
[07:36] <underdog5004> crazy_bus, I heard it was down earlier today
[07:37] <crazy_bus> any idea when it will come back online?
[07:37] <hitmanWilly> Lynoure, eventually there will be some, but I have a feeling the amount/effectiveness will be somewhat reduced
[07:38] <Lynoure> hitmanWilly: I'm eagerly waiting to find out :)
[07:39] <ubuntu_> I had a RAID 5 array over 4 250GB disks (/dev/sd[b,c,d,e] ) managed with mdadm. And i've had to reinstall Linux. I've loaded a Kubuntu 7.04 CD and installed mdadm in the Live CD, but it shows md0 as just useing 3 of the disks. It mounts, and I can accsess data, but /proc/mdstat does not show sdb as part of the array. trying to assamble the array manualy just says that it's only useing 3 out of 4 devices and again, doesn't show /dev/sdb. Can anyone please
[07:39] <ubuntu_> help?
[07:39] <ubuntu_> Sorry for the mini-flood
[07:39] <hitmanWilly> Lynoure, the problem is that for a virus to be truly effective under linux, it needs root, and that's something that unix like systems don't give away easily\
[07:40] <underdog5004> true
[07:40] <hitmanWilly> Lynoure, that's also why I think sudo is a massive security issue waiting to happen, but that's another issue :)
[07:40] <underdog5004> although you can run many viruses in linux with wine...
[07:40] <underdog5004> ha ha
[07:41] <Lynoure> hitmanWilly: That's a known fact
[07:41] <underdog5004> hitmanWilly, there was talk about a hacker replacing the sudo binary with another custom binary to gain root access
[07:41] <Lynoure> underdog5004: does not even need to be a custom binary
[07:41] <underdog5004> or...putting in an altered copy in a different path
[07:41] <ubuntu_> Can anyone help?
[07:41] <hitmanWilly> underdog5004, he wouldn't even need to do that
[07:41] <underdog5004> oh
[07:42] <underdog5004> how would he do it?
[07:42] <Lynoure> underdog5004: you just need a script that relays to sudo and passes on the password in the process
[07:42] <underdog5004> gotcha
[07:42] <underdog5004> but that will catch someone even if they do su, wouldn't it?
[07:42] <Lynoure> underdog5004: Ubuntu is nice and even adds the script to the path for you =)
[07:42] <hitmanWilly> just change /etc/sudoers to allow his compromised acct access would work as well
[07:42] <Lynoure> underdog5004: sudo, not su
[07:42] <underdog5004> no, I know
[07:42] <hitmanWilly> underdog5004, su works differently
[07:42] <underdog5004> gotcha
[07:43] <underdog5004> so, it's better to not use sudo?
[07:43] <Admiral_Chicago> its advised to use sudo underdog5004
[07:43] <Lynoure> underdog5004: it's better not to run code you don't trust
[07:43] <underdog5004> sigh
[07:43] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo has an experation date
[07:43] <hitmanWilly> underdog5004, imho, yes, its a bad idea, but that's just me
[07:43] <underdog5004> ah
[07:43] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu_: you need the alternate cd
[07:43] <underdog5004> Admiral_Chicago, why?
[07:44] <Admiral_Chicago> underdog5004: if you walk away from a computer that did sudo, 15 minutes later you have to re-enter the password
[07:44] <Admiral_Chicago> so sudo >> 15 minutes >> sudo.  its more secure than being logged in as root
[07:45] <Lynoure> underdog5004: Currently quite many users are very happygolucky when it comes to installing anything that might be cool, and will run just about anything to get their game/toy installed
[07:45] <underdog5004> gotcah
[07:45] <hitmanWilly> all it would take is for someone to compromise, say, the binary nvidia drivers
[07:46] <ubuntu_> Admiral_Chicago: I tried that, Same problem.
[07:46] <underdog5004> gotcha, Lynoure
[07:46] <underdog5004>  which is why OSS is good, right?
[07:46] <hitmanWilly> or find a hole in them
[07:46] <hitmanWilly> underdog5004, yes, that's one of the reasons
[07:47] <underdog5004> heading to bed now...it's about 11 at night...good night everyone
[07:47] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu_: hmm, thats an odd problem, sorry i don't mess with multiple HDDs. I don't have an answer
[07:48] <ubuntu_> Admiral_Chicago: Okay, thanks anyway.
[07:48] <hitmanWilly> im actually considering setting up a decoy box in a vm and forwarding all the default ports over to it
[07:49] <hitmanWilly> or at least the more common ones
[07:50] <hitmanWilly> see what i catch :)
[07:51] <bijun> how to enable my 5 button mouse
[07:51] <bijun> i want the extra 2 buttons to be "back " n foreward"
[07:51] <bijun> ??
[07:53] <hitmanWilly> bijun, try here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[08:03] <pacman_> I'm having problems getting DVD's to play with Mplayer
[08:03] <Yz85Racer> Ok, can someone, please, help me? I'm on Kubuntus live cd, but i need to get to my windows drive, but when i restart to get to it, it says "Loading GRUB stage1.5." then "error 22"
[08:03] <Yz85Racer> and I need to get to it, it has all my school work, etc
[08:03] <Lustblader> tried removing the live cd n then trying?
[08:04] <Yz85Racer> yes.
[08:04] <Lustblader> what do u get then?
[08:04] <Yz85Racer> i just put the live cd in just then to ask for help
[08:04] <Yz85Racer> same thiong
[08:04] <Yz85Racer> "Loading GRUB stage1.5." then "error 22"
[08:04] <redshadowhero> hey, can anyone help me get dolphin installed? I tried doing "sudo apt-get install dolphin" but it said that it was unable to lock the administration directory.
[08:04] <robotgeek> http://www.uruk.org/orig-grub/errors.html Yz85Racer
[08:05] <robotgeek> redshadowhero: you have adept or something running. You ran it as sudo, right?
[08:05] <redshadowhero> oh...
[08:05] <redshadowhero> yeah, you are right...
[08:05] <redshadowhero> thanks.
[08:05] <redshadowhero> now its working.
[08:05] <Lustblader> You need to get your windows bootloader installed again
[08:05] <Yz85Racer> 22 : "Must load Multiboot kernel before modules"
[08:05] <Yz85Racer>  This error is returned if the module load command is used before loading a Multiboot kernel. It only makes sense in this case anyway, as GRUB has no idea how to communicate the presence of location of such modules to a non-Multiboot-aware kernel.
[08:05] <Yz85Racer> How do I do that LustBlader?
[08:06] <Lustblader> Boot your XP CD,
[08:06] <Lustblader>  go to its "recovery console"
[08:06] <Yz85Racer> yes?
[08:06] <Yz85Racer> yeah
[08:07] <Lustblader> and run fixmbr
[08:07] <Yz85Racer> ohk
[08:07] <Lustblader> i think
[08:07] <Yz85Racer> that it?
[08:07] <Lustblader> yup
[08:07] <Yz85Racer> righto, ill try
[08:07] <Yz85Racer> brb
[08:07] <Lustblader> sure
[08:08] <AscendedDaniel> hello
[08:09] <AscendedDaniel> I can't seem to get my network settings to stick
[08:09] <wolferine> AscendedDaniel, why is that?
[08:10] <AscendedDaniel> I am not quite sure
[08:11] <AscendedDaniel> I right-click on the network settings manager in the bottom panel
[08:11] <wolferine> AscendedDaniel, well, suprising, a few more details might enlighten ppl who want to help :)
[08:11] <AscendedDaniel> I click "Configure Device" and set it to a manual IP ending in .22
[08:11] <wolferine> manual IP?
[08:11] <AscendedDaniel> and when I click "apply" it changes back to .119
[08:11] <AscendedDaniel> yes, manual
[08:11] <wolferine> so your trying to set a static IP ?
[08:11] <AscendedDaniel> yes
[08:12] <wolferine> well, good luck with that
[08:12] <wolferine> nite ppl
[08:12] <AscendedDaniel> thanks...
[08:12] <AscendedDaniel> I'll try a few things
[08:23] <AscendedDaniel_> ok, I figured out my network problem
[08:24] <AscendedDaniel_> turns out rebooting is good thing to do when switching from dhcp to static
[08:24] <bijun> Always
[08:24] <bijun> i've got a .tar.gx file for firefox
[08:24] <bijun> how to run it?
[08:24] <bijun> install
[08:26] <AscendedDaniel_> bijun: you need to unpack it and probably run make && make install
[08:26] <AscendedDaniel_> I've never done it from source before
[08:26] <bijun> every time i do it
[08:27] <bijun> it says error in the archive
[08:27] <bijun> even when i download it off windows n cart it to linux
[08:27] <AscendedDaniel_> bijun: have you tried sudo apt-get install firefox?
[08:28] <AscendedDaniel_> might be easier
[08:29] <Lusblader> nope
[08:29] <Lusblader> but am already apt get
[08:29] <Lusblader> running apt get
[08:30] <Lusblader> to update quite a lot of stuff
[08:32] <AscendedDaniel_> how do I kick my other nick?
[08:32] <Lusblader> just wait for it to time out
[08:32] <AscendedDaniel_> k
[08:33] <AscendedDaniel_> well, good luck with the install, Lusblader
[08:33] <Lusblader> yup
[08:33] <AscendedDaniel_> It's bedtime for me
[08:33] <Lusblader> thx
[08:34] <Lusblader> it's lunch time here
[08:34] <Lusblader> see ya man
[08:34] <AscendedDaniel_> ah, living in the future I see
[08:34] <AscendedDaniel_> later
[08:36] <W1ZrD> Are there some available codecs I can use when I need to create my own .avi files?
[08:38] <Lusblader> hmm
[08:38] <Lusblader> what exactly do u have in mind?
[08:40] <W1ZrD> Basically it is for tutorials regarding an fps game, Open Arena, it writes the output file to .avi
[08:41] <Lustblader> what format are the output files in now??
[08:42] <W1ZrD> from a 'in-game' format called .dm_68 -> .avi but the .avi files does not get converted properly at the moment
[08:43] <W1ZrD> there is a built in video capture for that specific game (http://ioquake3.org/?page=help) but seems like it's missing some codec when it writes the files
[08:43] <Lustblader> so what's bad in the video now??
[08:44] <el_isma> Hi!
[08:44] <W1ZrD> looks like green/yellow/red squares and sluggish frame-rate, just as if there were no codecs when trying to watch it or something
[08:44] <el_isma> (K)Ubuntu's default shell is dash, but when you logon you get bash. I want to get zsh instead, what should I change?
[08:45] <Lustblader> hmm
[08:45] <W1ZrD> so I don't know if it's written through the engines codecing, or if it is simply that I can't view it due to lack of codec on my machine
[08:45] <Lustblader> why don u use a screen capture program
[08:45] <Lustblader> n then convert?
[08:45] <W1ZrD> they don't support openGL :/
[08:45] <Lustblader> it's kludge solution i know
[08:46] <W1ZrD> A forum member tried Camtasia studio or something like that and didn't work at all
[08:47] <lordofthepigs> Hello! I have installed compiz fusion, and now, I want to use the RingSwitcher as my default window switcher.
[08:47] <lordofthepigs> When I press Alt+Tab
[08:47] <lordofthepigs> but it seems I can't set Alt+Tab from ccsm
[08:48] <W1ZrD> it seems as if the engine is writing the files when I check, it says: Wrote 619:0 frames to filename.avi but the result is what it is :)
[08:49] <Lustblader> try someother screen capture program
[08:49] <W1ZrD> do we have any gpl:ed ones around?
[08:50] <Lustblader> http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/03/04/screen_capture_movies.html
[08:51] <W1ZrD> n1, thank's I'll look in to it :)
[08:54] <dotz> hi i'm using the kubuntu cd for powermac to boot my mac laptop in hoping to mount the harddisk to retrieve some data.. i'm in the busybox but couldn't mount the /dev/hda9 .. anyone knows the parameters?
[09:01] <raheem> hello
[09:01] <prophezy_> hi there
[09:01] <prophezy_> howr you?
[09:01] <prophezy_> anyone online?
[09:02] <prophezy_> do anyone know, whats thediffrent installation between Ubuntu & Kubuntu?
[09:03] <se7enofnine> the k
[09:03] <prophezy_> thats the diffrent between the names
[09:04] <joey_> lol
[09:04] <joey_> He has a point though.
[09:04] <Lustblader> kubuntu = ubuntu+ kde desktop enviornment
[09:04] <Lustblader> approximately :-p
[09:04] <joey_> Come on we all know kunbuntu is better right!?
[09:05] <Lustblader> i wouldn't agree
[09:05] <espire> I pop it in, choose rip, and then the ripping fails.
[09:05] <Lustblader> %gives espire a knife%
[09:06] <prophezy_> yes, why i ask is ... i used Ubuntu in first place and my wine and photoshop instalation went perfect, but when i changed to Kubuntu, it hangs when i installing photoshop in the same way as i installed it in Ubuntu?
[09:06] <espire> I'd use it, but I want my music in MP3 form first
[09:06] <lordofthepigs> Yeah, I know a difference QTParted crashes, when it sees too many NTFS partitions, while GParted doesnt :)
[09:06] <Lustblader> same archive prohexy?
[09:06] <lordofthepigs> Anyway, is there a lower level configuration editor than ccsm for compiz?
[09:07] <prophezy_> yes Lustblader
[09:07] <Lustblader> download em espire
[09:07] <lordofthepigs> I can't set Alt+Tab as an action key in ccsm
[09:07] <Lustblader> prophezy_: strange
[09:07] <lordofthepigs> Is there an equivalent of gconf_editor for kde?
[09:08] <prophezy_> Lustblader yes, the installation went to 99% and hangs
[09:08] <Lustblader> lordofthepigs: nano?
[09:08] <Lustblader> kde is wierd at times
[09:08] <lordofthepigs> sure, where are the files I have to edit?
[09:08] <Lustblader> what do u wanna do?
[09:09] <lordofthepigs> I want to set Alt+Tab as a shortcut for the RingSwitcher of Compiz
[09:09] <lordofthepigs> which I can't do from the compiz settings manager
[09:10] <lordofthepigs> It seems that compiz doesn't keep its setting in a regular file
[09:11] <prophezy_> Lustblader do you know what this means : The central directory was not found in the archive?
[09:12] <kraut> moin
[09:12] <prophezy_> this comes up now when i trying to install the DW 8
[09:12] <Lustblader> means the archive is corrupt
[09:12] <Lustblader> or not the right one
[09:12] <Lustblader>  lordofthepigs http://sonique6784.blogspot.com/2006/05/gset-compiz-tool-to-configure-compiz.html
[09:12] <Lustblader> try that
[09:13] <prophezy_> Lustblader: how can i fix the archive?
[09:13] <Lustblader> fixing an archive is darn hard
[09:14] <prophezy_> any idea? reinstall?
[09:14] <Lustblader> download again
[09:14] <Lustblader> then try
[09:14] <prophezy_> download what?
[09:14] <Lustblader> the archive
[09:15] <prophezy_> oh i didnt know that, the archive can be ownload, from where can i download it?
[09:16] <momal> Just wondering if anyone has set up 5.1 sound under kubuntu? I set it up and added some things into asound file in ~/ seems it all works but the front speaker no sound comes from the other 4 + sub work fine. Anyone have suggestions on what to try/do to help you know th eproblem
[09:16] <prophezy_> momal : sorry im new in Kubuntu ;)
[09:18] <lordofthepigs> stupid china, blogspot is blocked!!
[09:18] <Lustblader> use www.stupidcensorship.com
[09:19] <robotgeek> momal: if you use amarok/kaffeine, you might just be able to set the output to 5.1
[09:20] <robotgeek> momal: Settings -> Configure Amarok -> Engine -> Speaker Arrangement
[09:20] <momal> robotgeek: Yea that is set but still nothing from middle speaker :(.. The speaker does work when i changed it's plug around and i tried it under windows and it worked fine.
[09:20] <robotgeek> momal: i also recommend installing Alsamixergui , it has a list of all the controls for your speakers
[09:21] <momal> robotgeek: Yup have that as well and set everything up and not muted :)
[09:21] <robotgeek> momal: well, the least i can do is post my .asoundrc
[09:21] <lordofthepigs> Lustblader: Already have Tor :)
[09:22] <momal> robotgeek: yea try post that and if its different i'll set it to yours and try :)
[09:22] <robotgeek> momal: http://rafb.net/p/Il2ytR43.html
[09:24] <robotgeek> momal: i'm heading off to bed, take a look at the alsa wiki, i guess
[09:24] <lordofthepigs> Ok, I just found out that netbeans gives me a blank window when using compiz
[09:24] <momal> robotgeek: ahh ok thanks anyhow will try that thne look further on the net if still wont work
[09:24] <lordofthepigs> and that there was a fix in Java 6 update 1
[09:24] <lordofthepigs> how can I update my java version without waiting for gutsy?
[09:26] <lordofthepigs> or can I point apt to the gutsy repository only for sun-java packages?
[09:28] <dotz> is ubuntu base on gnome?
[09:28] <yarou> yeah
[09:28] <Lustblader> by fellaz
[09:28] <Lustblader> lunch time here
[09:28] <Lustblader> ta'h
[09:29] <yarou> does anyone know how i can set hw:1,1 as my default sound card?
[09:36] <busfahrer> Anybody else got the update for BIND in Adept Updater?
[09:36] <jenny_> I have a question
[09:37] <jenny_> never used konversation before so i dont know if i am allowed to just ask or what
[09:38] <prophezy_> Jenny just ask :)
[09:38] <KNRO> don't ask to ask!
[09:38] <prophezy_> lolz
[09:38] <jenny_> whats a .rar
[09:38] <yarou> it's a compression format
[09:38] <yarou> proprietary
[09:38] <jenny_> how do you open it
[09:39] <prophezy_> with 7z
[09:39] <jenny_> whats that
[09:39] <se7enofnine> sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[09:39] <prophezy_> a  program to open, rar, zip and so on
[09:39] <lordofthepigs> how can I use Gusty's java6 packages in feisty?
[09:40] <jenny_> i have to download that from the web huh
[09:40] <yarou> no
[09:40] <yarou> just open up a terminal
[09:40] <prophezy_> Jenny no need to download it, you can install it from the add/remove if you havent done it
[09:40] <yarou> and type what se7enofnine said
[09:42] <jenny_> it said Package unrar-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:42] <jenny_> Package unrar-nonfree has no installation candidate
[09:42] <se7enofnine> unrar should do
[09:43] <yarou> anyone know why kde4base-dev crashes dpkg?
[09:43] <se7enofnine> sudo apt-get install unrar
[09:44] <lordofthepigs> seems feisty-backports might be a solution
[09:44] <jenny_> so basically this is just a rm of ppl getn help?
[09:44] <yarou> already enabled in my apt sources file
[09:45] <se7enofnine> jenny does unrar work?
[09:45] <prophezy_> Jenny you can get help and make friends ;)
[09:45] <jenny_> it said it installed, gonna try to open the file
[09:45] <se7enofnine> should open with ark now
[09:46] <prophezy_> Jenny after chattin a couple of times you may have blind date :P
[09:46] <jenny_> really? cool ;)
[09:46] <jenny_> hm still didnt wk
[09:47] <yarou> i'm a girl too, sometimes
[09:47] <jenny_> it looks right but didnt play
[09:47] <prophezy_> lolz @ yarou
[09:48] <prophezy_> YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:48] <prophezy_> now my Photoshop is in function !
[09:49] <prophezy_> bad bad bad archive, payin with me like that :P
[09:49] <prophezy_> playin
[09:50] <jenny_> is there somethin else im supposed to be doin to make it play
[09:51] <se7enofnine> jenny extract the files and (play them)
[09:51] <yarou> hmm, i wonder how long Qt takes to compile
[09:52] <jenny_> i'm not sure how to extract files (red faced)
[09:52] <matahari> hi
[09:52] <matahari> i have some problems at the installation of kubuntu feisty.
[09:53] <prophezy_> Jenny you still cant open rar files?
[09:53] <matahari> The Installer hangs up all the time at 85% when he installs openoffice.org-java-common
[09:53] <yarou> maybe the fairies will help
[09:53] <jenny_> shakes head no
[09:53] <matahari> i'm using the alternate cd
[09:54] <se7enofnine> matahari: i had the same problem
[09:54] <prophezy_> Jenny : haved you tried to reinstall the 7z in add/remove programs
[09:54] <matahari> se7enofnine: what did you do?
[09:54] <se7enofnine> just wait
[09:54] <se7enofnine> it takes 10 15 min
[09:54] <pag> jenny_, do you have unrar installed?
[09:54] <matahari> se7enofnine: it will continue? okay!
[09:54] <jenny_> im still tryin to get the hang of this thing cause I just switched from Windows.
[09:55] <se7enofnine> matahari:  what version
[09:55] <yarou> use ark
[09:55] <pag> jenny_, enable multiverse (if you haven already done so) and install unrar via Adept
[09:55] <pag> !multiverse | jenny_
[09:55] <ubotu> jenny_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:55] <jenny_> multiverse?
[09:55] <jenny_> wow all these things ive never even heard of before
[09:55] <prophezy_> ;)
[09:56] <matahari> se7enofnine: it's just strange that it takes so long time....
[09:56] <prophezy_> Jenny it will comes...just learn alittle day by day ;)
[09:56] <jenny_> yeah i learned the other day about -rm files ;)
[09:56] <se7enofnine> matahari: i started 3 times burned 2 cds ... because i thought something is wrong ...
[09:57] <prophezy_> good girl :P
[09:57] <matahari> se7enofnine: me too!
[09:57] <matahari> se7enofnine: i already exchanged the  CPU cooler, because i thought it was a heat-problem
[09:58] <prophezy_> aya my torrent download is only 1.8 Mb ! :(
[09:58] <se7enofnine> matahari: are you installing gutsy tribe3?
[09:58] <matahari> se7enofnine: no, feisty
[09:58] <yarou> shitty kde4
[09:58] <jenny_> so now i need to enable somethin called multiverse? then dont apt-get install but use Adept to do what again? this better be a good movie thats all i gotta say
[09:59] <prophezy_> lolz @ Jenny ;)
[09:59] <se7enofnine> jenny on what version are you feisty has multiverse enabled
[09:59] <jenny_> how do i enable multiverse when i dont know what or where it is?
[09:59] <pag> jenny_, See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:59] <jenny_> pretty sure they said feisty
[10:00] <matahari> another thing: it is strange, that on feisty teh standby mode for laptops doesn't work anymore. On edgy it worked without problems....
[10:00] <pag> jenny_, you of cource can use apt-get too, I just thought you would be more confortable with GUI-tool
[10:00] <matahari> i have a compaq evo n410c
[10:01] <prophezy_> pag .. Jenny is very new in all Ubuntus ;)
[10:01] <jenny_> i'm not sure what that is either (surprise surprise) good grief i've become a computer illiterate overnight
[10:01] <prophezy_> you hae to explain what Gui-tools and all that stuff is  (i think ) :P
[10:02] <jenny_> lookin at the info
[10:02] <prophezy_> lolz
[10:02] <prophezy_> Jenny you just playin with us.. i think you are the Linux Guru :P
[10:02] <prophezy_> or Ubuntus Gur
[10:02] <prophezy_> Guru
[10:02] <prophezy_> :D
[10:03] <pag> prophezy_, There's no problem for me in expalaining, since our dear ubotu has links to instructions with screenshots :)
[10:03] <prophezy_> pag aha.. i didn c that  ;)
[10:06] <yarou> see,
[10:06] <yarou> kde is telling me that eth0 is disconnected
[10:06] <yarou> but i'm here
[10:06] <jenny_> read the words but my eyes started to cross and i felt my brain fizzle out
[10:07] <jenny_> i think i broke my ability to think for the night so i'll work on that tomorrow
[10:07] <jenny_> with a lot of coffee
[10:07] <prophezy_> yarou, becasue you lookin at the mirror now, and reflects to this channel :P
[10:07] <prophezy_> lolz @ Jenny
[10:08] <prophezy_> poor lady ;)
[10:08] <prophezy_> hehe
[10:08] <yarou> broken piece of crap
[10:10] <jenny_> found a button to register but that lead to more reading so i stopped
[10:11] <jenny_> dang there are a lot of steps to do things
[10:11] <jenny_> at least finding this was easy!
[10:11] <yarou> welcome to Linux
[10:13] <arun> hello peopl
[10:13] <arun> e
[10:14] <jenny_> is it only complicated at first?
[10:14] <arun> jenny_: what is?
[10:14] <prophezy_> Jenny yes ;)
[10:14] <jenny_> oh thank goodness
[10:14] <prophezy_> everything is complicated first
[10:14] <pag> jenny_, as soon as you get used to all this, it'll be far easier than Windows :)
[10:14] <arun> what are you talking about
[10:15] <jenny_> arun, just switched and still leanin the basics
[10:15] <prophezy_> yes
[10:15] <arun> ah
[10:15] <prophezy_> arun her age :P
[10:15] <arun> had any problems yet?
[10:15] <prophezy_> *just kidding*
[10:15] <jenny_> hm?
[10:16] <prophezy_> Jenny are you fmiliar with Linux?
[10:16] <jenny_> not a bit
[10:16] <arun> jenny_: had any problems with kubuntu yet?
[10:16] <jenny_> arun, oh yeah
[10:16] <arun> such as?
[10:16] <prophezy_> she cant open the rar file
[10:16] <yarou> kde4 is broken
[10:16] <yarou> that's what
[10:16] <pag> yarou, it's supposed to be broken - it's alpha ;)
[10:17] <yarou> i'm better of just compiling from trunk
[10:17] <yarou> wait 3 days until Qt is compiled, bahaha
[10:17] <prophezy_> lolz
[10:18] <kanpachi> hello
[10:18] <jenny_> ok i think my brains done for the night
[10:18] <jenny_> *yawns* mornin whatever
[10:18] <prophezy_> Jenny night???
[10:18] <kanpachi> i'm new to kubuntu, can anyone please tell me how to get to that kde wizard where i can disable some effects please?
[10:18] <prophezy_> iits 10 am here :P
[10:18] <yarou> 4 AM
[10:18] <pag> prophezy_, people are living on differet timezones ;)
[10:19] <prophezy_> lolz @ pag
[10:19] <jenny_> 1:18am here in San Diego
[10:19] <kanpachi> 11:19 am here :)
[10:19] <prophezy_> san diego
[10:19] <wabbit> 4am
[10:19] <prophezy_> wowowowow
[10:19] <wabbit> o.O
[10:19] <kanpachi> can anyone please tell me how to get to the kde wizard in kubuntu?
[10:19] <jenny_> where the heck are you that its 10am
[10:19] <kanpachi> i can't find it on the control panel
[10:19] <se7enofnine> It's Wednesday, July 25, 2007, at 3:19 PM in Asia/Bangkok
[10:20] <pag> jenny_, Central Europe?
[10:20] <capcom> what do you mean with kde wizard? which effects do you want to disable?
[10:20] <prophezy_> I use Euro
[10:20] <kanpachi> well, i used to use ubuntu, and then i installed the kubuntu-desktop package
[10:20] <prophezy_> Kubuntu Euro
[10:20] <kanpachi> and when i booted kde for the first time, it popped up a wizard asking me a bunch of questions
[10:21] <kanpachi> like how many effects i wanna use in the kde desktop etc...
[10:21] <jenny_> thanks guys, see y'all again soon
[10:21] <kanpachi> now i installed kubuntu from the kubuntu cd, and i can't find that option :(
[10:21] <prophezy_> Jenny sweet dreams of Kubuntu
[10:21] <busfahrer> kanpachi: Run kpersonalizer
[10:21] <jenny_> laughs
[10:22] <kanpachi> thanx
[10:22] <kanpachi> can't find that command busfahrer :(
[10:22] <kanpachi> run command won't recognize it
[10:22] <mimik> !kpersonalizer
[10:22] <wabbit> after not touching linux since 02-03 maybe even 2000 this is a really nice dist
[10:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kpersonalizer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <kanpachi> thanx
[10:23] <arun> my computer's become a bit sluggish over the past 2 days
[10:23] <arun> anything i can do to speed it up?
[10:23] <prophezy_> arun by new one??? :P
[10:23] <prophezy_> buy
[10:24] <kanpachi> oh, and another thing please, where can i change the the way it konq opens files with one mouse click? i want it to use two clicks, like gnome does
[10:24] <kanpachi> i search the konq settings, but couldn't find it :(
[10:24] <wabbit> btw anybody cant help with a really retarted question, since i cant find the answer TT
[10:25] <pag> kanpachi, kcontrol -> Peripherals -> mouse
[10:25] <capcom> kanpachi: i think this setting is made in kcontrol, where you set the mouse behavior
[10:25] <yarou> i don't need kde4
[10:25] <yarou> i'll just install ion3
[10:25] <matahari> what can i do, when my TFT displays the message "Mode not supported" under Feisty?
[10:25] <kanpachi> where is kcontrol?
[10:25] <matahari> se7enofnine: the install just went fine!
[10:25] <pag> kanpachi, alt+f2 and type kcontrol
[10:25] <kanpachi> i can't find it sorry :(
[10:25] <kanpachi> thanx
[10:26] <kanpachi> oh there! thanx guys :)
[10:26] <se7enofnine> matahari: :)
[10:26] <wabbit> when i download torrent how do you get it to stop using bittorrent and use a diffrent installed client?
[10:26] <capcom> in the k-menu there is an entry called system settings or something like that. there can these settings also be made
[10:26] <matahari> se7enofnine: just my TFT won't display anthing - get the message "Mode not supported"
[10:28] <se7enofnine> can you get a command line matahari
[10:28] <matahari> se7enofnine: no
[10:28] <matahari> i will boot in rescue mode
[10:28] <matahari> maybe there i can get one
[10:29] <wabbit> how are file associations defined if anybody dont mind with my retarted question :)
[10:29] <matahari> se7enofnine: i have a command line now
[10:29] <pag> wabbit, kcontrol -> KDE components -> file associations
[10:29] <prophezy_> oki my dear friends, me have to restart my little computer to feed her with more battery, or it she will be mad ;)
[10:30] <se7enofnine> matahari: cat /etc/X11/xorg.config      and see what driver you use
[10:31] <matahari> se7enofnine: i810 driver
[10:31] <se7enofnine> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:31] <kanpachi> thanx for all your help guys :)
[10:31] <kanpachi> i found kpersonalizer, i had to install it from the repos
[10:32] <se7enofnine> matahari: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:32] <matahari> se7enofnine: thanks
[10:32] <kanpachi> have a nice day, i'm off :)
[10:32] <kanpachi> oh just one last question
[10:33] <kanpachi> i have an nvidia geforce 4 mx, and i understand that it's a legacy driver right? will the restricted drivers install the nvidia-glx or the nvidia-glx-legacy for me? since the other time it installed the nvidia-glx one
[10:38] <paulatreides> salut
[10:42] <lordofthepigs> argh!
[10:42] <lordofthepigs> I can't find out how to update my Java version from 6 to 6update2
[10:42] <shukty> hi  every1 some1 can lend me a hand to conf my guarddog ?
[10:47] <frode> hello there... think i need some help here...been using MS since the 80's and want to look at linux... how do i install progs on Linux?
[10:48] <frode> would like to install wine on kubuntu
[10:48] <vzduch> !wine | frode
[10:48] <ubotu> frode: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:48] <frode> thanx
[10:55] <matahari> is it possible, that 2 users use tha same KMAIL application with the same mailaccounts?
[10:56] <pag> matahari, sure... just take care of permissions, and use symlinks  (this is just a wild guess - I won't guarantee that it'll work, but it should)
[10:57] <matahari> would it work when i link the .kmail directory from one user to the directory from the other user?
[10:58] <pag> matahari, iirc there's no such directory as .kmail... I guess it's ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail  but as I said; I haven't tried it, so I don't know the exact way.
[10:58] <matahari> pag: okay
[11:24] <kerric> hi all
[11:25] <kerric> can anyone help me with knetwork manager - i cant see wireless network, but other wifi manager is working correct
[11:25] <kerric> can any one help ?
[11:28] <Sbucat> hi to see hide file in ubuntu was ctrl+h and in kubuntu?
[11:29] <kerric> ls -al :D
[11:30] <pag> Sbucat, no default shortcut set - you can set it yourself in settings -> configure shortcuts
[11:30] <Gote> !de
[11:30] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:31] <Sbucat> pag: =) thanks man
[11:32] <Sbucat> kerric: thanks =)
[11:37] <sredna> Riddell: now, i just can't run anything at all. for example, attempting to run konsole, with LD_LIBRARY_PATH set to /usr/lib/kde4/lib, i get this: dolphin: error while loading shared libraries: libkparts.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:42] <Riddell> sredna: and is there such a file?
[11:44] <scotty> This is annoying. Everytime I tell Amarok to install mp3 support it freezes up.
[11:44] <sredna> Riddell: i would think it should link to libkparts.so.5 (in /usr/lib/kde4/lib)
[11:46] <pag> scotty, do you have all repos enabled?
[11:47] <scotty> I think so. Fresh install, though, I'll go check
[11:48] <scotty> Ah, the multiverse was commented out.
[11:49] <ghanhat> hi
[11:50] <ghanhat> why can't Kubuntu installation install grub where the hell I wanna install it?
[11:50] <ghanhat> I wanna install /boot on a second hard drive
[11:50] <ghanhat> then grub won't get installed
[11:50] <ghanhat> why does this shit happen?
[11:50] <MaTiAz> ghanhat: Use the alternate install CD?
[11:50] <ghanhat> is wasting my time for real
[11:50] <ghanhat> yeah
[11:50] <ghanhat> I have that one
[11:51] <ghanhat> how
[11:51] <stdin> ghanhat: both the live install and alternate install can install grub where ever you want
[11:52] <ghanhat> one time I tried to install just GRUB on /boot and you know the configuration and it did a re-install of the WHOLE fsking system on top of my up to date installation
[11:52] <ghanhat> I was AGHAST
[11:52] <ghanhat> Gentoo is so simple I can install Grub anytime I want any fucking where I want to
[11:52] <ghanhat> stdin: it didn't do da shit
[11:53] <stdin> !language
[11:53] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:53] <ghanhat> sorry
[11:53] <stdin> ghanhat: with the live install there is an "advanced" button and (IIRC) a link in the last screen before the install
[11:53] <ghanhat> but I am a lil pissed now
[11:53] <ghanhat> it's being a few days is screwed up a few beautiful installations
[11:53] <stdin> ghanhat: lets you install grub where ever you want, like hd0,0
[11:53] <ghanhat> what button?
[11:54] <stdin> ghanhat: I believe it's called "Advanced"
[11:54] <ghanhat> I am using Alternate CD there are no buttons
[11:54] <stdin> ghanhat: on the alternate cd it's different
[11:54] <ghanhat> yeah 'cause I am using LVM, that's why I am using Alternate
[11:55] <stdin> ghanhat: I haven't used it in a while, you may have to change the debconf priority. but I remember that installing grub is the last step
[11:56] <ghanhat> it is the last step, one time I try to install grub and it did a reinstallation on top of my brand new up to date installation
[11:56] <ghanhat> that was a disaster
[11:57] <ghanhat> oh my gawd
[11:58] <stdin> ghanhat: AFAIK, when you setup the partitions you just make a separate /boot and then install grub normally (to hd0)
[11:58] <ghanhat> grub kept saying "CAN'T install hd0,0 NO @%$^, is not there is on the second hard drive the /boot partition
[11:59] <noaxess_kubuntu> hi all
[11:59] <ghanhat> ok I will try this again
[11:59] <Xjs> hallo
[11:59] <stdin> ghanhat: then hd1 will probably be it
[11:59] <Xjs> hello, I mean
[11:59] <Xjs> and wrong channel, sorry
[11:59] <noaxess_kubuntu> how can i automaticly clena unused/old kernel images and entries in grub's menu.lst?
[11:59] <noaxess_kubuntu> is there a frontend or over terminal?
[12:00] <stdin> noaxess_kubuntu: just use adept to remove the old linux-image-(VERSION) packages, that's all you need to do
[12:00] <noaxess_kubuntu> stdin: okey.. .)
[12:03] <noaxess_kubuntu> there is also no setting to remove eg. the oldest kernels and keep only the newest and the next.. you know what i mean :)
[12:04] <stdin> noaxess_kubuntu: not really, it's due to the way the kernel versions are packages, the system "sees" them as separate packages, not related to eachother
[12:04] <noaxess_kubuntu> hm.. then i need also remove the older linux-headers... manually over adept..
[12:07] <stdin> noaxess_kubuntu: yeah, but you should only get a few kernel updates per prelease
[12:07] <stdin> * release
[12:12] <crube> I'm using Konqueror but it annoys me that the bookmarks toolbar is shown when I'm browsing files aswell. ;S Is there a way to make it only show in web browsing
[12:12] <stdin> you can close the tab at any time
[12:28] <Makar> Hello everyone! :)
[12:30] <ico_86> pozz svima
[12:30] <ico_86> kako setovati adsl na kubuntu
[12:30] <ico_86> 7.04
[12:33] <alie> hei hallo all
[12:33] <Lustblader> hi alie
[12:34] <arun> I installed LAMP on my computer, but now I've forgotten my passwords, etc
[12:34] <wit> how do i add a repository if i dont know its exact location ? is there a list some where that i am missing ?
[12:35] <arun> any way i can recover my phpmyadmin passwords and stuff?
[12:35] <Lustblader> <-- has no idea bout php
[12:35] <stdin> wit: what repository ?
[12:35] <stdin> arun: anything about that on the LAMP help paga?
[12:35] <stdin> !LAMP
[12:35] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:36] <arun> stdin: I tried a random user/pass and it worked.. but I'd like to know if there's any way to create new database users using phpmyadmin?
[12:36] <arun> or do i have to do it from the terminal
[12:37] <stdin> I don't know, haven't worked on lamp in ages
[12:37] <ico_86> how to set adsl connection on kubuntu feisty fawn 7.04
[12:37] <arun> stdin: are you a programmer?
[12:37] <wit> stdin: i wish to get mp3 decoders , and i thought i couldnt getit from the main repositories cuz it aint opensource, so i was hoping to just add one or more that might have something on it
[12:37] <stdin> arun: only learning
[12:38] <stdin> wit: that's what multiverse is for
[12:38] <arun> stdin: me too. what languages are you learning
[12:38] <stdin> arun: C++
[12:38] <wit> oh ok, so is it there by default ?
[04:28] <ERIK_LIMA> !mess
[04:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mess - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:28] <ERIK_LIMA> !xmess
[04:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xmess - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:28] <mumif> can someone help me?
[04:28] <ERIK_LIMA> Guys, anyone know how to play Turbo Grafx 16 on Kxmame??
[04:29] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !ask | mumif
[04:29] <ubotu> mumif: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:29] <ERIK_LIMA> I'm trying configurating it, but I can't play PC Engine games
[04:32] (mumif/#kubuntu) How do I install Phyton?
[04:32] (mumif/#kubuntu) there
[04:32] (runlevelten/#kubuntu) phyton or python?
[04:32] (lewix/#kubuntu) hi
[04:32] (lewix/#kubuntu) stdin, hi how are you doing
[04:32] (mumif/#kubuntu) no idea lol
[04:33] (mumif/#kubuntu) you know what I mean
[04:33] <BluesKaj> howdy all :)
[04:33] <mumif> probably python
[04:33] <BluesKaj> !python
[04:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:33] <bldzr> mumif: 'apt-get install python'
[04:33] <runlevelten> If python, it'll be installed by default.
[04:33] <dr_willis> !info python
[04:33] <ubotu> python: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.5.1-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 137 kB, installed size 600 kB
[04:33] <mumif> oh it's python
[04:33] <mumif> lol i had a typo
[04:34] <mumif> ok tnx guys =)
[04:34] <sha384sum> sorry guys, was messing with the fstab, am rebooting
[04:34] <BluesKaj> hmm interesting the info prefix actally makes the bot do a proper search
[04:34] <mumif> hm... it says I have the newest version
[04:34] <runlevelten> No I assumed it probably was, but you never know, and duff advice sucks :)
[04:35] <mumif> ok, which libs should I d/l for SuperKaramba?
[04:35] <mumif> does anyone know
[04:35] <runlevelten> sudo apt-get install superkaramba
[04:35] <mumif> hm ok...
[04:36] <dr_willis> The Joy of apt.  :)
[04:36] <BluesKaj> mumif, open adept and install superkaramba and it will install the proper dependencies as well
[04:36] <mumif> oh guys thanks so much =)
[04:36] <BluesKaj> or apt or synaptic
[04:36] <mumif> apt it is =)
[04:36] <runlevelten> no probs mumif :D
[04:37] <mallize> hey guys.  do i need an additional package to use amarok visualizations?  other than what is packaged in kubuntu?  i have the libvisual lib
[04:37] <mumif> I was using Ubuntu before but still KDE has that linux feel
[04:37] <mumif> oh yeah, how to upgrade amarok to play mp3 files via shell?
[04:37] <BluesKaj> it is linux :)
[04:37] <mumif> if it's possible, of course
[04:37] <dr_willis> feel :)
[04:38] <mumif> wow
[04:38] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> mallize: You shouldn't need anything that isn't in by default for the visualizations.
[04:38] <mumif> it installed
[04:38] <dr_willis> I always forget the package name for amarok. I think its mentioned in the Kubuntu web page FAQ page.
[04:38] <mumif> but it should be sudo apt-get upgrade amarok?
[04:38] <mallize> i'm new to amarok, do you have to dl visualizations?
[04:38] <mumif> where amarok is the package name
[04:38] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> mumif: "sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg" will install the MP3 support for amarok.
[04:38] <mallize> or are there some by default
[04:38] <mumif> ok thanks
[04:39] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !info libxine1-ffmpeg
[04:39] <ubotu> libxine1-ffmpeg: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.4-2ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 1534 kB, installed size 3692 kB
[04:39] <mumif> it says it cannot find it
[04:39] <Lupo> ciao
[04:39] <Lupo> ciao a tutti
[04:39] <mumif> oh this is a 1 not l
[04:39] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> mumif: You may not have the other repositories enabled.
[04:40] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> mumif: Yes, the number 1.
[04:40] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !it | Lupo
[04:40] <ubotu> Lupo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:40] <Lupo> c' qualcuno che parla italiano ?
[04:40] <lewix> stdin, Can I get the latest verison of aircrack for kubuntu
[04:40] <runlevelten> mumif: are you comfy with /etc/apt/sources.list or do you prefer a gui?
[04:40] <runlevelten> !repos
[04:40] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:41] <dr_willis> lewix,  for the 'latest' you may have to use the source.
[04:41] <dr_willis> !info aircrack
[04:41] <ubotu> aircrack: wireless WEP/WPA cracking utilities (transitional package). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.6.2-7ubuntu1.1 (feisty), package size 9 kB, installed size 48 kB
[04:41] <BluesKaj> amarok 1.4.6 is available butnot int he repos ...I don't think
[04:41] <mumif> runlevelten, i dunno what you are talking about xD
[04:41] <lewix> dr_willis, that's what I have 0.6
[04:41] <mumif> oh, another question
[04:42] <runlevelten> right, then I suggest you use synaptic, which is a nice graphical package management app.
[04:42] <elite101> ohh
[04:42] <runlevelten> You want to enable the universe repositories, methinks
[04:42] <dr_willis> lewix,  if theres a newer one, you will either have to go find the package somewhere, or use the source
[04:42] <mumif> how do I disable the konqueror to open theme manager files with kate?
[04:42] <elite101> hey that synaptic can i downlad styles witht that and install them?
[04:43] <runlevelten> you can use kcontrol  kde components  file associations, or you can right click, choose "open with" and choose an app (checking 'always use this app' if you want to change the setting itself
[04:44] <lewix> dr_willis, can it be unstable
[04:44] <dr_willis> elite101,  there are a great many KDE themes/styles/iconsets and other theme parts in the repos not installed by default.
[04:44] <dr_willis> lewix,  no idea. Kubuntu/ubuntu dosent try to stay 'cutting edge current' it does a 'new release every 6 mo' way to stay current.
[04:44] <elite101> but is there an app so its easyer it will delete and add the style for u?
[04:44] <runlevelten> tbh though, I just use superkaramba's theme manager.
[04:45] <dr_willis> elite101,  the theme manager can add/remove them IF you download them from someplace.. OR use the package manager to install/remove them from the repos.
[04:49] <bense> sup d00dz
[04:49] <mumif> how to install firefox here :\?
[04:49] <mumif> on Kubuntu?
[04:49] <pag> mumif, sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[04:50] <pag> mumif, write (or copy) that in konsole
[04:50] <NightBird> or open up adept, type in firefox, and pick the correct package :P
[04:51] <mumif> ok ok
[04:51] <mumif> and one last question
[04:51] <mumif> how do i run the theme manager =)?
[04:51] <elite101> lol has anyone ever just installed all the apps on adept befor?
[04:51] <elite101> just for fun so they have everything?
[04:51] <elite101> im about to do that
[04:51] <NightBird> elite101: uh... have fun
[04:51] <elite101> lol
[04:51] <elite101> 300gb later
[04:51] <BluesKaj> never heard of that , elite101
[04:52] <elite101> so many things to install......
[04:52] <elite101> but i love adept
[04:52] <BluesKaj> only if you will use them
[04:52] <elite101> all your programs are rite there (some of them!)
[04:52] <BluesKaj> don't install stuff you won't use
[04:52] <mumif> how do i run the theme manager? anyone :(?
[04:52] <elite101> what is a shell?
[04:53] <mumif> a console program... something like a command line
[04:53] <BluesKaj> the terminal/konsole is a shell
[04:53] <mumif> !ask theme manager
[04:53] <BluesKaj> !themes
[04:53] <pag> mumif, kcontrol -> Appearance -> theme manager ?
[04:53] <elite101> can somone direct me to ubuntu studios?
[04:53] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[04:53] <elite101> the channel
[04:53] <pag> !ubuntustudio
[04:53] <ubotu> ubuntustudio is a site for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best parts of Audio/Graphical/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories, and extra! Available at http://www.ubuntustudio.com. Or visit #ubuntustudio.
[04:53] <savetheWorld> the terminal/konsole is a terminal emulation program, which is often (but not always ) used to run a shell.
[04:54] <elite101> thanks
[04:54] <alicia> hi my name is lou lou
[04:54] <savetheWorld> interacive run shells are where all *NIX command line (cli) work is done.
[04:54] <savetheWorld> *interactive
[04:54] <alicia> why ssave the world
[04:54] <mumif> hm...
[04:55] <mumif> where is Kcontrol? :\
[04:55] <mumif> (im not on english Kubuntu)
[04:55] <savetheWorld> Note - Note all instances of shells are interactive.  For example at system booot time shells are used to run the init scripts.
[04:55] <elite101> lmao stupid windows users:  d1ce, I don't really see Linux being that much harder to manage other then the fact that the end user has no clue how to use it
[04:55] <pag> mumif, nowhere in the menus; press alt+f2 and type kcontrol
[04:56] <savetheWorld> heh typo "Not all instances of shells are interactive"
[04:56] <alicia> hi elite101
[04:56] <mumif> uhuh... k thanks
[04:56] <alicia> one of the only good things about windows is msn
[04:57] <washington> alguien que me pueda ayudar?????
[04:57] <BluesKaj> savetheWorld, lets be practical here , we don't need info that new users won't be looking at for a while :)
[04:57] <alicia> hello elo elo im pc plod
[04:57] <elite101> hey? do i know u?
[04:57] <pag> !es | washington
[04:57] <ubotu> washington: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:58] <savetheWorld> BluesKaj: There are only new user's here?
[04:58] <savetheWorld> :-)
[04:58] <BluesKaj> alicia, let's speak english , not textish
[04:58] <alicia> oh yeah as if i am a new user i know about how to make bombs
[04:58] <alicia> LOL
[04:58] <elite101> ?
[04:58] <elite101> o.0
[04:58] <NightBird> ..
[04:58] <alicia> only joking
[04:58] <elite101> why joke about that?
[04:59] <alicia> i dont know
[04:59] <BluesKaj> !Offtopic
[04:59] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:59] <elite101> this better not be a fake convo again i swear!!!!!!!!!
[04:59] <alicia> sorry back to the topic
[04:59] <elite101> that mad me so mad
[04:59] <elite101> made*
[05:00] <alicia> everyone makes mistakes
[05:00] <BluesKaj> fake convo
[05:00] <BluesKaj> ?
[05:00] <elite101> yeah
[05:00] <elite101> u wouldnt believe yesterday in the windows chat] 
[05:00] <alicia> how do you get your name a different colour
[05:00] <elite101> about this girl who needed help with ehr printer
[05:01] <elite101> it was a girl and for some reason this one just sayed hi elite???? im going to wonder again
[05:04] <GrahamA> elite101: What the hell is a fake convo?
[05:04] <GrahamA> How can you fake a convo?
[05:04] <elite101> okay there is this txt i copyd and pasted it
[05:04] <elite101> go to offtopic
[05:04] <elite101> plz i willexplain
[05:05] <GrahamA> Does anybody here need help?
[05:05] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> GrahamA: Using multipule IRC clients and nicks to talk to yourself??
[05:05] <GrahamA> WhtWolfTeraDyne: But that's just sad...
[05:05] <elite101> no
[05:05] <elite101> listen this girl was talking about she got a new computer
[05:05] <elite101> she got a rpinter
[05:06] <elite101> and we were helping her (or i was lol got it to work too)
[05:06] <elite101> she was onwindows
[05:06] <elite101> baisic
[05:06] <elite101> well she sayed her boyfriend was getting the cord***** was getting it
[05:06] <elite101> so we asked her to plug it in
[05:06] <elite101> she did???
[05:06] <GrahamA> I would know that's bullshit straight off the bat
[05:06] <GrahamA> Girls aren't on IRC.
[05:07] <atrocity> is there any way to make xmms play music when i double-click it in File Browser instead of Movie Player?
[05:07] <elite101> okay so after from 1:02am i asked can u print out www.google.com and at 1:02am she sayed it worked it prinbted
[05:07] <elite101> the same time o.0
[05:07] <elite101> thats impossiable
[05:07] <vzduch> GrahamA: I know some
[05:07] <GrahamA> atrocity: Open with > choose xmms > set it as default application
[05:08] <elite101> anyways she said there was an agent at bestbuy saying she need anti-virus and he had a badge !!! a badge o.0
[05:08] <GrahamA> girls don't mix with technology.
[05:08] <elite101> she said he was officer or something jordan
[05:08] <elite101> yeah but this was so fake
[05:08] <GrahamA> If they did, I'd probably hve a chance of getting some in my lifetime.
[05:08] <elite101> like ppl in the room thought i was appart of it
[05:08] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> elite101: Geek Squad members do carry badges.
[05:08] <elite101> then she said she met her boyfriend on eharmoney?
[05:08] <atrocity> GrahamA: that's waht i was doing to get them to play in xmms, but there's no option to set it as default app :/
[05:09] <GrahamA> Yes there is.
[05:09] <runlevelten> GrahamA: That's garbage, with respect.
[05:09] <elite101> lol we where making fun of geek squad when she said it
[05:09] <elite101> she said random things and things worked?? way to fast i thought it was a test
[05:09] <elite101> for the channel
[05:09] <runlevelten> Anyway. wtf?
[05:09] <elite101> is wow this too much
[05:09] <GrahamA> Or lag.
[05:09] <elite101> and then she signed off real quik
[05:10] <elite101> it was weird
[05:10] <GrahamA> runlevelten: What's garbage?
[05:10] <atrocity> GrahamA: I found it.  you have to right-click it, go to properties, and it it under the "Open With" tab
[05:10] <runlevelten> I'd be happy to talk about """<GrahamA> girls don't mix with technology.""" with you in ot :)
[05:10] <elite101> i asked them if it seem fishy they said it was too and now this girl alicia says hey elite101 i told the other girl yesterday i was on linux??no its going to happen again
[05:10] <elite101> ^^
[05:11] <GrahamA> atrocity: I know, that's what I said.
[05:11] <GrahamA> Have fun
[05:11] <atrocity> oh, lol, i thought you said, right click it, then go to open with...not properties first
[05:11] <atrocity> either way, thanks!
[05:12] <elite101> i swear that alicia chick is jami_Jackson o.0 going to start another rediculous convo
[05:12] <GrahamA> elite101: Why didn't you pass along the infamouse windows deltree command?
[05:12] <elite101> im not an avid windows vista user
[05:12] <elite101> so i told her i was on linux
[05:12] <elite101> she's like ohh
[05:12] <elite101> a 14yr old on linux
[05:12] <GrahamA> She knew what Linux was?
[05:12] <elite101> she nows what it is but yet cant work a printer
[05:12] <elite101> yeah
[05:12] <elite101> like wtf
[05:12] <GrahamA> And you STILL think it's a girl?
[05:12] <elite101> yewah
[05:13] <elite101> she wouldnt let her boyfriend use the computer
[05:13] <NightBird> ...
[05:13] <NightBird> one: this seems fairly off topic
[05:13] <elite101> they way she aked she's like i dont want my son to get on any twiddles and hoho's????? o.0
[05:13] <elite101> sorry
[05:13] <GrahamA> Does anybody here need assistance?
[05:13] <NightBird> b: There are girls that are good with computers
[05:13] <GrahamA> NightBird: Prove it.
[05:13] <elite101> yeah some arent the britest but she new
[05:13] <elite101> about linux and now today?
[05:14] <elite101> the alicia girl says hi elite101???
[05:14] <NightBird> GrahamA: Several of my friends in college were good CS majors and female
[05:14] <elite101> me
[05:14] <runlevelten> GrahamA: There are lots of female geeks all the way along the spectrum.
[05:14] <elite101> i have some stuff she said copy'd down i asked my friend if it looked fake he agredd with me lmao
[05:15] <runlevelten> My other half is a nix geek, she is decidedly female :)
[05:15] <GrahamA> I'm not implying all girls are rubbish at computers, I'm just saying majority don't have a fucking clue.
[05:15] <elite101> like wow i coundlt believe it
[05:15] <elite101> yeah
[05:15] <GrahamA> runlevelten: I'd like to meet one.
[05:15] <BluesKaj> yes, lots of 'em , but they're the worst "know it all geeks "...worse than the male know it alls , cuz they feel they must constantly prove themselves
[05:15] <elite101> well they prob dont care when u say that
[05:15] <PriceChild> !offtopic | GrahamA elite101 BluesKaj
[05:15] <ubotu> GrahamA elite101 BluesKaj: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:16] <elite101> alicia, you know the channel ##windows??
[05:16] <runlevelten> The difference being that while most guys don't have a clue, they all believe they're Linux Torvalds the second they can use a non-standard client on "yahoo chat" or whatever.
[05:16] <GrahamA> Does anybody here need any assistance with any Kubuntu realted problems?
[05:16] <elite101> any one need help on something?
[05:16] <runlevelten> *Linus, heh
[05:16] <NightBird> heh
[05:16] <elite101> ...
[05:16] <BluesKaj> c'mon PriceChild , it's slow in here right now :)
[05:16] <GrahamA> If not, I shall continue this discussion.
[05:16] <PriceChild> BluesKaj, GrahamA Does not make a difference, please move it to an offtopic channel.
[05:16] <elite101> okay
[05:17] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> ...
[05:17] <elite101> why did u kick him?
[05:18] <elite101> ?
[05:18] <runlevelten> Possibly the 640k of off-topic chatter elite101.
[05:18] <PriceChild> elite101, I would advise that you cease the offtopic chatter...
[05:18] <stdin> because he was ignoring the rules
[05:18] <elite101> yeah okay
[05:19] <stdin> elite101: "[16:16]  <GrahamA> If not, I shall continue this discussion."  <- not good to disrespect the opps :)
[05:19] <elite101> ohhh
[05:20] <Atroc> heh
[05:21] <elite101> un ban him plz
[05:21] <elite101> grahamA
[05:21] <genii> did sha384sum get his alternating SCSI devicename issue resolved?
[05:21] <atrocity> there we go
[05:22] <stdin> elite101: that's up to the opps, best place to ask is in #ubuntu-ops
[05:22] <Riddell> elite101: he made an exceedingly sexist comment
[05:23] <elite101> ohhh
[05:23] <stdin> and swore, both are no-no's
[05:24] <BluesKaj> I installed apache2 , thinking i'd use it , and i thought that i had uninstalled it , but I see it's still running in system services... what gives?
[05:24] <atrocity> god i hate wireless
[05:24] <nodesert> how can i mount USB stick
[05:24] <nodesert> ?
[05:24] <stdin> BluesKaj: check that you removed it? "apt-cache policy apache2"
[05:25] <stdin> nodesert: didn't it automount?
[05:25] <nodesert> no
[05:25] <stdin> did you see any dialog box?
[05:26] <nodesert> stdin: no
[05:26] <stdin> has it been formatted/partitioned yet?
[05:26] <nodesert> my cd-rom is automounted
[05:26] <BluesKaj> thx stdin, it was still installed , so used adept
[05:26] <runlevelten> Yeah, apologies for taking up on that, but I have a partner who's a geek, and a few daughters. I can't brook that garbage. Anyway, back on-topic.
[05:26] <webers> hi all
[05:26] <webers> any one how to install real player 10.0 in kubuntu 7.04
[05:27] <nodesert> stdin:USB stick is working i think i have to mount manually
[05:27] <stdin> webers: look at the media pages
[05:27] <stdin> !realplayer | webers
[05:27] <ubotu> webers: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:28] <webers> I looked at it but every time I try, an error message appears.
[05:28] <stdin> nodesert: open konsole, type in "dmesg | tail" it should show you the device name, something like "sdb"
[05:28] <stdin> webers: what error?
[05:29] <genii> webers The content of the error message may help enlighten
[05:29] <webers> package not found
[05:29] <stdin> did you follow/read the whole guide
[05:29] <stdin> it tells you how to get the right repositories
[05:29] <webers> yea,
[05:30] <webers> I enabiled all repositories, like univers, multiverse
[05:30] <genii> work, AFK
[05:30] <jenny_> mornin
[05:31] <stdin> webers: no, read it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods you need other repos
[05:31] <BluesKaj> hi jenny_
[05:31] <webers> (Couldn't find package realplay) that's the messaage
[05:32] <jenny_> My sister sent me a picture thats .3g2 but i have never heard of that file extension
[05:33] <webers> thanx stdin for helping.
[05:33] <stdin> webers: sure :)
[05:33] <PriceChild> jenny_, that sounds like a video file to me... from a phone
[05:33] <jhutchins_lt> I think that's an iPod format.
[05:34] <jenny_> I think so
[05:34] <stdin> mpeg4 then
[05:34] <jenny_> Not sure what program to open it with
[05:34] <genii> yes, 3g2 is a nokia type media format
[05:34] <jhutchins_lt> looks like ffmpeg can handle it.
[05:34] <stdin> try renaming it to a .mp4 extention
[05:34] <jhutchins_lt> Which means that mplayer should as well.
[05:35] <stdin> (probably just mpeg4)
[05:36] <jenny_> ffmpeg?
[05:36] <spiniker> hello room
[05:37] <stdin> jenny_: fmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder
[05:37] <stdin> jenny_: I'd bet the 3g2 files is an mp4 file in disguise, see if renaming the extention
[05:38] <spiniker> hello jenny
[05:38] <jenny_> it didnt give me me the option of renaming it so i saved it to see if i could rename it once it was saved
[05:38] <BluesKaj> hi spiniker
[05:38] <jenny_> mornin spin
[05:38] <spiniker> hello blues
[05:39] <pag> jenny_, do you have codecs installed yet?
[05:39] <jenny_> not sure
[05:39] <spiniker> jenny mind if i ask a question?
[05:40] <jenny_> sure
[05:40] <jenny_> seems only fair as many questions as i've been askin
[05:40] <spiniker> im having problems with theme manger
[05:41] <pag> spiniker, please be more specific ;) what kind of problems?
[05:41] <jenny_> points to one of the smart people
[05:41] <spiniker> im not able to change it..it says i have to log in as administrator mode..
[05:41] <spiniker> how do i do it
[05:41] <Pazy> Will anything bad happen if i uninstall Grub from adept then reinstall?
[05:41] <spiniker> im using kubuntu
[05:41] <pag> spiniker, theme manager or kdm theme manager?
[05:42] <spiniker> kdm theme manager..
[05:42] <runlevelten> try opening it in mplayer.
[05:42] <mumificpjetao> !ask KDM
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask kdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <runlevelten> oopsy, was scrolled up again, haha
[05:42] <pag> spiniker, oh.. it really does need the root acces.. there should be 'Admin. mode' -button somewhere
[05:42] <BluesKaj> Pazy , what are you trying to do? ...you can edit grub
[05:43] <runlevelten> dpkg-reconfigure grub?
[05:43] <spiniker> yeah i see it..but im not able to access it
[05:43] <Pazy> Im trying to get grub to boot my WInXP as well but i cant get the entry right, im hoping a reinstall will make it retry since in my last install it work after install
[05:43] <pag> spiniker, huh? how come?
[05:43] <runlevelten> or update-grub?
[05:43] <spiniker> its not higlighted..
[05:43] <stdin> spiniker: needs to be ran as root, run "kdesu kcontrol"
[05:43] <pag> Pazy, pastebin your menu.lst and ask someone to make necessary changes
[05:44] <Pazy> Pastebin?
[05:44] <BluesKaj> Pazy, kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst in the run command box
[05:44] <spiniker> ok..wait ill try..
[05:44] <stdin> !paste | Pazy
[05:44] <ubotu> Pazy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:44] <pag> !paste | Pazy
[05:44] <Pazy> whats kdesu? i keep trying sudo
[05:45] <Pazy> *typing
[05:45] <pag> Pazy, kdesu is sudo for graphical apps.
[05:45] <kaminix> How do I add that the mimetype .x264 should open with Kaffeine?
[05:45] <Pazy> Does sudo not work on graphical apps?
[05:45] <spiniker> ok thanks its working now..
[05:45] <stdin> !kdesu | Pazy
[05:45] <ubotu> Pazy: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[05:45] <spiniker> ur a lifesaver
[05:45] <martijn> kaminix: settings in konqueror
[05:45] <jenny_> yeay it works, oh ugh its just a picture of her kids
[05:45] <Pazy> Crap ive probably mucked up my permissions and configs then
[05:46] <kaminix> Just Konquerer -> Tools -> Settings? Thanks.
[05:46] <BluesKaj> Pazy, alt+f2, kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:46] <jhutchins_lt> kaminix: Right click on a local file and choose the app to open it with.  You should have a checkbox to remember the association.  This only works with local files, not URL's.
[05:46] <pag> Pazy, it *can* muck them up.. just don't use sudo GUIapp anymore and hope for the best
[05:46] <stdin> Pazy: "can" doesn't me that it always "will"
[05:46] <runlevelten> Pazy: it didn't work when chainloading from hd(1,0)
[05:47] <runlevelten> ?
[05:47] <jhutchins_lt> jenny_: Which worked, renaming it?
[05:47] <Pazy> True runlevelten
[05:47] <jenny_> yep
[05:47] <Pazy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31251/
[05:47] <Pazy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31251/           my menu.lst for grub
[05:47] <runlevelten> look in /boot/grub/device.map - is the windows disk hd1?
[05:47] <martijn> kaminix: something like that (i have Dutch version), and then tab file associations
[05:47] <runlevelten> @Pazy
[05:48] <jenny_> now to figure out this registration thing and then back to tryin to figure out why my .rar video isnt playin, one thing at a time
[05:48] <vzduch> to the dvd::rip users: for technical reasons I ripped the single chapters of a DVD.. can I combine these for transcoding to get 1 .avi or .ogm file?
[05:48] <spiniker> hey pag thanks
[05:48] <pag> runlevelten, wouldn't it be easier just map the HD's in the bootoption itself?
[05:48] <pag> spiniker, no prblem at all :)
[05:48] <spiniker> should i be log in as root evrytime i try to change it?
[05:49] <BluesKaj> Pazy, what are you attempting to do in grub ...you haven't mentioned it. ?
[05:49] <pag> spiniker, don't *log* in as a root... just use kdesu
[05:49] <Pazy> WinXP (Profesional)
[05:49] <Pazy> Device.map is bare (hd0)	/dev/sda
[05:49] <Pazy> Will i manually add the windows stuff?
[05:50] <spiniker> ok thanks
[05:50] <spiniker> ill try to remember that
[05:50] <Pazy> I feel a little bit sinful for using hotmail on windows lol
[05:51] <Pazy> *linux :D
[05:51] <jhutchins_lt> jenny_: Usually you have to decompress .rar files to play them.
[05:51] <Pazy> I cant spell today it seems
[05:52] <runlevelten> Pazy: which would give a hint as to why last night's setting didn't work, heh
[05:53] <pag> Pazy, that'll work, but that's a pretty hacky one, wait and see, if runlevelten provides a better one ;) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31253/
[05:53] <BluesKaj> pazy , see where it says example with the windows settings, remove the # in front of the lines down to chainloader...also where it says #hiddenmenu...remove the # there as well
[05:54] <Pazy> Down to and including chainloader?
[05:54] <BluesKaj> yes
[05:54] <pag> BluesKaj, there's a problem with mapping devices, not the structure of boot option itself
[05:55] <Pazy> There is no # at hidden menu already
[05:55] <mumificpjetao> what is the name of the Java runtime enviroment package?
[05:55] <jenny_> i dont understand this registration info one bit
[05:55] <spiniker> ei pag,pardon..
[05:55] <jenny_> it went from compu-jargon to greek
[05:55] <mumificpjetao> !ask java
[05:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask java - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:56] <pag> jenny_, what registration? :O
[05:56] <mumificpjetao> jeez
[05:56] <pag> !java | mumificpjetao
[05:56] <ubotu> mumificpjetao: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[05:56] <spiniker> should i extract everything first before i install theme?
[05:56] <jenny_> to send private msgs
[05:56] <BluesKaj> Pazy, sorry i mean add a # at hiddenmenu ...it's like a double negative actaully what it's doing is 'showmenu '  :)
[05:56] <mumificpjetao> hm,,, if I can't sue adept, then I do it via terminal?
[05:56] <mumificpjetao> use*
[05:56] <runlevelten> Pazy: Did you install this disk after installing grub?
[05:57] <pag> spiniker, which theme are you trying to install? you have a link?
[05:57] <jhutchins_lt> jenny_: /msg nickserv register <password>
[05:57] <Pazy> no it was already in
[05:57] <pag> mumificpjetao, terminal, yes; sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jer
[05:57] <runlevelten> and dpkg-reconfigure grub and update-grub don't do anything, right?
[05:57] <pag> jre that is
[05:58] <stdin> jer?
[05:58] <pag> stdin, sorry, typo.
[05:58] <BluesKaj> Pazy, just making sure
[05:58] <Pazy> I was talkin to runlevelten, lol didnt add name:
[05:58] <Pazy> sorry
[05:58] <jhutchins_lt> mumificpjetao: sudo apt-get install or sudo aptitude install, yes, in a console.
[05:59] <BluesKaj> ok Pazy , I'll back off ..too many cooks etc...
[05:59] <spiniker> i downloaded them on kde.org
[05:59] <mumificpjetao> ok
[06:00] <mumificpjetao> guys I dunno how could I get this far without you =) thanks a bunch
[06:00] <Pazy> I just remembered my exact disk situation when installing kubuntu, I had both in and it took ages (left it for ~2 hours) at the partition screen so i resetted and removed sata and it worked in 30 seconds. I added Sata back in while i resetted after install./
[06:00] <jenny_> jhutch, i dont know what that means. is that what i type somewhere?
[06:00] <Pazy> runlevelten: Should i add an entry of my C:\ to device.map
[06:00] <pag> Pazy, try the solution I offered you earlier - it might work
[06:01] <runlevelten> right, and did you sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub and sudo update-grub since then?
[06:01] <jhutchins_lt> jenny_: Yeah, pretty much anywhere - just send it like a regular post.
[06:01] <pag> jenny_, just a hint; use tab to autocomplete nicks ;)
[06:01] <runlevelten> and nothing happened?
[06:01] <jhutchins_lt> jenny_: If you begin a line with /, irc assumes you're trying to send a command.
[06:01] <jenny_> a post? huh? no idea what you are talkin about
[06:02] <jenny_> in terminal or?
[06:02] <jhutchins_lt> jenny_: when you /msg someone, the following text only goes to that person.
[06:02] <jhutchins_lt> jenny_: In this case, nickserv, which is a bot that handles registrations.
[06:02] <jhutchins_lt> jenny_: You probably have a window that shows the MOTD from the server, that's where you'll see any response to the command.
[06:02] <jenny_> whats MOTD?
[06:02] <jhutchins_lt> jenny_: Right in the irc window, where you type normal chat messages.
[06:03] <jhutchins_lt> Message Of The Day
[06:03] <jhutchins_lt> /motd will display it again.
[06:03] <jhutchins_lt> (You can generate your own MOTD for console logins if that amuses you.)
[06:03] <jenny_> so i type /motd into the same line i am typin in now?
[06:03] <Pazy> Sorry was afk talkin to mun
[06:04] <jhutchins_lt> jenny_: Yes, but the message should appear in the server window.
[06:04] <Pazy> mum
[06:04] <jhutchins_lt> jenny_: So most people switch to that window first.
[06:04] <jenny_> i have a server window? i just clicked on the konversation listed from applications
[06:05] <Pazy> runlevelten: I tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub  it said Password (And i entered it) then said   paul@paul-kubuntu  then i typed sudo update-grub and it said same as it always did
[06:05] <jhutchins_lt> jenny_: There should be a tab labeled "Freenode" - that's the server window.
[06:06] <runlevelten> Pazy: but it didn't work?
[06:06] <jenny_> when i went to the thing that said freenode and typed /motd it said  The file or folder file:///motd does not exist.
[06:07] <jhutchins_lt> ?
[06:08] <jhutchins_lt> [11:08]  [263]  MOTD Server load is temporarily too heavy. Please wait a while and try again.
[06:08] <jhutchins_lt> [11:08]  [MOTD]  End of message of the day
[06:08] <Pazy> runlevelten: it didnt add any new entried (like winxp)
[06:08] <Pazy> *entries
[06:08] <vzduch> to the dvd::rip users: for technical reasons I ripped the single chapters of a DVD.. can I combine these for transcoding to get 1 .avi or .ogm file?
[06:08] <jhutchins_lt> jenny_: Anyway, try /msg nickserv register <password> there, see what happens.