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samushkasytem idle, no programs running... cpu load hovers round 60-70% at all times.... what gives?12:41
rskwhat app is taking it+12:41
samushkanone, i just checked.12:41
samushkaare you have same issues w/ gutsy?12:41
rskcant say i have12:41
samushkahmmm, wierd.12:42
samushkai have nvidia drivers installed, thought that would alleviate it... nope.12:42
samushkathe only app taking juice is gnome system monitor @ 12%12:43
rjekuse top in a terminal.12:44
rjekIt's more precise and doesn't skew the results so much.12:44
samushkawats the command?12:45
samushkak lemme try12:45
samushkasays cpu @ 45%, yet whats listed doesnt account for that much12:46
samushka(thx for heads up on "top" btw, thats awesome)12:46
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WaxyFreshwhat does tribe mean12:50
IdleOneIm guessing Feisty Fawns live in Tribes and not Herds :)12:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tribe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about herd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:55
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rjeksamushka: quit top, and copy-and-paste what it last said to rafb.net/paste12:57
WaxyFreshcould someone tell me what herd tribe and freeze stand for?12:57
IdleOneWaxyFresh, I am not certain but with feisty when it was alpha they were calling the alpha releases Herd1 herd2 ... and now with Gutsy they are being called Tribe1....12:57
rjekThey're all gimicky names, like "fiesty" is.  Freeze means no more changes other than bug fixes.12:57
IdleOnethey could just as easily call them Aplha1, Alpha2 I guess but where is the fun in that12:58
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terlmannanyone here familiar with really hard issues ?01:40
rskwe can't read minds01:40
terlmannA is a debian system (desktop) which I want to serve Feisty to B over ethernet. net install from the web and straight cdrom install are out of the question.01:40
terlmannis there a way to do this ?01:41
terlmannnot an apt mirror , a straight install01:41
rjekYou want to netboot install?01:42
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rjekCopy the contents of the CD to a directory served by your webserver and then set up dhcpd, tftpd and pxelinux as described in the netboot docs on the CD.01:42
terlmannbut not such as tries to netboot and use the internet to install01:43
rjekThen use that directory on your web server as an alternative mirror to install from.01:43
rjekIt takes about 5 minutes to set up - I had to do this recently for my laptop.01:43
terlmannfeisty doesnt have a netboot dir01:43
rjekterlmann: What's in install/netboot/ then?01:44
terlmann/media/cdrom/install# dir01:44
terlmannmt86plus  README.sbm  sbm.bin01:44
terlmannthere is no such folder01:44
terlmannI dont get it01:44
rjekThere is on my 7.04 i386 CD.01:44
rjekinitrd.gz  mt86plus  netboot/  README.sbm  sbm.bin  vmlinuz01:44
terlmannmine is 7.04 and i38601:44
terlmanna remount says same thing01:46
terlmannno such folder01:46
rjekWhere did you download the CD from?01:47
terlmannI think01:48
rjekWhere did you download the CD from?01:48
terlmanncould have been main site01:48
rjekAh.  You may need to use the alternative CD rather than the Live CD.01:48
rjekThat's the only difference I can think of.01:48
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terlmannis there a way to wdelta the diff between live and alternate ?01:49
rjekThey're completely different.  You'd just end up downloading it all again.01:49
rjekYou're welcome to try rsync though.  I bet it's not worth it.01:49
terlmannI dont have that kind of bandwidth01:50
rjekThen you can't install it over the network01:50
terlmannmine is about a 50kbs connect , and I share it with two bbroters01:50
terlmannINSIDE the house is a ethernet01:50
terlmann100 mbs01:51
terlmannOUTSIDE is wireless and limited01:51
rjekWhat is the actual problem you're trying to solve?  There may be another solution.01:51
terlmannits a dell laptop01:51
terlmannand it takes forever to load feisty01:51
rjekPlease provide more details than "dell laptop" and "forever to load feisty"01:52
terlmannbooting up is 10+ Minutes , and ubiqity never got to the first screen01:52
rjekIs this from the CD?01:52
terlmannme here01:52
rjekYou may find that your laptop's CD-ROM drive sucks.  The Live CD is seek-heavy.01:52
terlmannthats true01:52
rjekI don't understand what you're trying to do or what your problem is.  Please start again.01:52
terlmannits a 1100 dell latitude01:53
terlmannnewer line01:53
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terlmann or older if you dont know about the older line01:53
terlmannand I want to put ubuntu on ut01:53
rjekWhat are you trying to do (ie, what is the end result you want) and what problem are you having?01:53
terlmannit seeks forever and loads forever01:53
terlmannthere is the problem01:54
terlmannI am trying to use my limited resources to get the dang thing to work01:54
terlmannI have a desktop as well01:54
terlmannin debian01:54
rjekWhat do you mean by "in debian" ?01:54
terlmanninstalled in debian lenny01:54
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rjekYou've got lenny on there at the moment?01:55
terlmannthe lappy is a 110001:55
terlmannno , on the desktop01:55
terlmannon here ->01:55
rjekRight.  If using the live CD you've got isn't an acceptable way of installing, you've got a few options:01:55
rjek1) Spend an age waiting for the alternative install CD to download,01:55
rjek2) Spend a while waiting for Canonical to post you a CD,01:56
rjek3) Try downloading a minimal network boot CD and only installing precisely what you want and need by downloading just those packages.01:56
rjekActually, I'm not sure if you can do 3 anymore.01:57
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rjek4) Transplant laptop hard drive into another machine, and install there.01:57
terlmannimpossible for 401:58
DanaGOh, if you're willing to go dapper->edgy->feisty->gutsy, which is a PITA and is risky, there's instlux.01:58
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rjekterlmann: Impossible why?  Don't want to void a warrenty or similar?01:58
rjekIf so, I don't think you've got any choice that doesn't involve downloading another 650MB.01:58
DanaGOh hey, if you have 100 megabit ethernet, you can boot one PC from the other to install.01:59
rjek(or waiting for Canonical to post you a CD, which can take months)01:59
terlmannI have inhouse 100 megabit01:59
rjekDanaG: You cant netboot with the Live CD version, which is what terlmann has.01:59
terlmannI was hoping there were only slight diffs twixt alt and live01:59
terlmannbut it's not so02:00
rjekSorry, I think you're out of options.  Can you perhaps visit an internet cafe and download the alternative CD?02:00
rjekterlmann: The alternative CD contains a bunch of .deb packages.  The Live CD contains a compressed hard disc image.02:00
rjekI imagine you might save having to download 10MB.02:00
terlmannI see that02:00
terlmannI cant visit town at the moment02:00
rjekSorry I couldn't help more.  I'm all out of ideas.02:01
terlmannwait one02:01
DanaG"On a windows only machine, you may consider installing Grub for DOS, then extract the kernel image from a LiveCD, put it on a vfat partition, and boot from there:  The Original Post at the Gentoo Forum"02:01
DanaG This also requires two computers, you can run a tftp server on one computer with the initrd and kernel, whil02:01
terlmannthe live is a deb cache02:01
tattersI tried installing Elisa (media centre) ,it fails miserably to load ,Traceback (most recent call last):  File "/usr/bin/elisa", line 5, in <module>    from pkg_resources import load_entry_pointImportError: No module named pkg_resources02:01
terlmannit is02:01
terlmannI have tftp02:01
DanaGFor Gentoo, but Ubuntu may still apply.02:01
terlmannI have a howto to netboot ubuntu02:02
terlmannI have now the files02:02
tatterssry meant to paste   http://pastebin.com/d2deed11e02:02
rjekThere's a very vague possibility that if you've got Windows on the laptop already, you could copy the contents of the CD into the Windows partition, install grub, get grub to boot the Linux and initrd images from there, and then hack about with the Live CD's boot scripts to mount the drive image from the Windows partition instead of the CD.02:03
rjekBut that's hideously complex, and I wouldn't know where to start to do it.02:03
terlmannhow do we do that02:03
terlmannI can do that02:03
terlmannwindows xp is on the machine02:03
rjekIt'd take me longer to work out how to do it than it'd take you to find the time to visit an internet cafe :)02:03
terlmannI havnt any ability to go to town02:04
terlmanncafe's dont grow in kansas budy02:04
rjekIt'd take me a week to work out how to do it, and I've got other things to do, sorry.02:04
terlmannI read something about it somewhere02:04
rjekI suggest you start downloading the alternative CD in the background throttled so not to monopolise your connection.02:05
rjekPerhaps you have a friend who could download it and post you it?02:05
terlmannthere is the windows tech02:06
terlmannalso alternate02:06
terlmannthats ok02:06
terlmannwell as for the bandwidth , I cant hog it during 1-7 pm , much less use it. 2 younger siblings play WoW and xbox live02:07
terlmannif I even start surfing they jink in their games(and attack me respectivly)02:07
terlmannI can do this02:07
terlmannI have used linux for 5 years and went through 20+ distros02:08
terlmannLucky I was to get me some standard hardware02:08
terlmannSCREW laptops !02:08
terlmannwhitebox amd forever !02:08
rjekMy advice is to always use the alternative CD.  It's much more flexible.  Again, sorry I can't help any more.02:09
terlmannthats ok02:09
rjektatters: I suggest you email the maintainers, file a bug, or ask on an elisa-specific forum.02:10
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thompaI dont understand why I cant see both this and my yahoo chat in pidgin02:15
thompaor is that the way its suppossed to be,02:16
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Toxicity999Seems to be doing well, no lock ups with the new version =] 02:26
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xnixanyone aware of any current issues with the latest gusty gibbon generic kernel and agpgart/nvidia drivers02:30
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ShackJackJust wondering - has anyone tried/know if the feisty repo of virtualbox works on Gutsy?03:27
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orbishanyone know a way to tell my box to use "cp -vR" by typing "cp"? basically shortcut my commands03:33
orbishmy old boss showed me like 3 years ago but i forgot03:34
PiciAdd an alias.03:34
orbishi'll google it, thank you03:34
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kaide1Anyone have any ideas why Tribe 3 doesn't notice raid arrays that are created with the bios on an asus crosshair motherboard, it uses a silicon image 3132 chip04:17
kaide1It shows the drives up separately instead of 1 single striped disk like is created04:17
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neoncodeIf I install Gutsy tribe 3 is it likely to corrupt my RAID 5 Array I use for /home?04:49
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corevettewhat can i add to 'sudo dpkg -i *.deb' to install dependencies automatically?05:07
RAOFcorevette: Use gdebi :)05:08
corevettein the terminal05:08
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RAOFapt-get -f install05:09
HobbseeRAOF: gdebi doesnt handle deps automaticlaly, i thought05:10
RAOFHobbsee: It did last time I tried it, I think.05:11
corevetteand plus i'm on kubuntu+1 anyways05:11
RAOFAlthough I can count the number of times I've tried to install a deb manually (that I haven't just pbuilt) on the fingers of one hand.05:11
HobbseeRAOF: ah nice05:11
corevettewait how do i install a local file05:12
corevetteand get dependencies05:12
corevettewithout gdebi05:12
RAOFapt-get -f install05:12
corevettewhere do i put the deb05:12
RAOFWherever you want?05:12
corevettesudo apt-get -f install pidgin_2.0.1-1_i386.deb ?05:13
RAOFWhy are you trying to install an old version of pidgin?05:13
corevette...where's the new?05:14
Hobbseedpkg -i the deb, then run the apt-get -f isntall05:14
corevettei got it05:14
RAOFcorevette: apt-get install pidgin05:14
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BotLobstacan anyone help me with what im assuming to be gdm?05:15
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Vuenhey guys, what's the status on compiz by default for gutsy?05:16
RAOFIt's on by default already05:17
Vuenoh awesome05:17
Vuenthat's totally awesome05:17
Vuenwill that stick?05:17
RAOFUnless the critical bugs don't get fixed05:17
Vuencritical = black window bug on nvidia/05:17
RAOFNo way05:18
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RAOFTop 3 are critical.  The black window bug isn't a bug in compiz, anyway.05:18
Vuenyeah i know, but it's still critical as far as compiz by default goes, right?05:19
Vuenthough i assume they would just disable it on nvidia cards and leave it on for intel?05:19
RAOFNot at all05:19
RAOFOnly a small fraction of nvidia users see that at all.05:19
Hobbseethe current plan is that it will stick, yes05:19
RAOFBigger ones include: compiz breaks Xv on all open drivers05:20
Vuenwill it be on by default on kubuntu?05:21
RAOFDekkard: Is that aimed at anyone?05:21
Dekkardno.. sorry05:22
RAOFHobbsee: That's your cue :)05:22
crdlbwell on my gentoo system upgrading to 6.6.192 of the ati drivers fixed Xv05:22
crdlb!info xserver-xorg-video-ati gutsy05:22
ubotuxserver-xorg-video-ati: X.Org X server -- ATI display driver. In component main, is optional. Version 1:6.6.3-2ubuntu6 (gutsy), package size 375 kB, installed size 884 kB05:22
RAOFcrdlb: And Amaranth has a patch that fixes it, too.05:22
crdlbbackported it?05:23
RAOFNo, wrote it05:23
crdlboh that works too05:23
Vuensorry, what is Xv?05:24
crdlbused for hardware-scaled video playback05:24
HobbseeVuen: possibly.  it doesnt integrate well with kde yet.05:24
RAOFAKA: Make my video look good and play well.05:24
HobbseeRAOF: thanks :)05:24
VuenHobbsee: yeah, i've been running k gutsy for a couple weeks now. i'd love to leave compiz on but kde-window-decorator segfaults randomly and constantly05:25
Vuenmaybe i'll dig through the source sometime and try and fix it05:25
BotLobstacan anyone help with gdm hanging whenever the X server restarts?05:26
crdlbI guess ati 6.7 won't be out in time for gutsy05:26
HobbseeVuen: that'd be good05:27
RAOFVuen: From the compiz ML it seems that k-w-d is, indeed, a crash-happy monkey.05:28
crdlbindeed :(05:28
crdlbalso has lots of weird drawing glitches05:29
crdlbwrt maximized windows05:29
Vuenwell i've fixed a couple bugs in beryl before, so i'm not new to the code05:29
RAOFOh, awesome.05:29
RAOFGo!  Go!05:29
pwnguinis it just me or is h264 playback taken a turn for the worse recently05:29
Vuenand i don't work tomorrow, so i've got squat to do. hopefully i'll be able to make some headway into what's wrong.05:30
pwnguin(on linux)05:30
Vuenpwnguin: do you get a lot of flickering back and forth between frames?05:30
Vuenpwnguin: especially when seeking?05:30
pwnguini do get flickering, but it kinda looks like a vblank type problem05:30
Vuenah, yeah i think i get the same thing05:30
pwnguinbut worse seems to be a huge fps mismatch05:30
Vuenstarted happening like two days ago?05:31
pwnguinsounds about right05:31
pwnguini get the same problem in feisty as i do gutsy05:31
Vueni get similar effects. still works well enough as long as i'm not doing anything else while the video's playing05:31
Vuenanyway i gotta run, later05:31
pwnguinim sure matroska doesn't help05:32
pwnguinfor reasons unknown to me, gstreamer can't cope with .mkv05:32
pwnguinwhat's rather annoying is that the anime fansub groups can't agree on what's best05:33
pwnguinmkv is great for them because they don't have to hardcode subtitles into the video --05:34
pwnguinbut the only player that handles mkv well enough is vlc, which does poorly with subtitiles in certain scenarios05:35
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RAOFFFmpeg (and by extension, MPlayer) should handle them well enough, no?05:35
pwnguinapparently not05:36
pwnguinmplayer usually handles mkvs okay, but it seems to choke on a video i grabbed recently05:36
pwnguingranted, we're talking about a video that claims to be 1280x72005:37
RAOFA/V is a minefield of people doing stupid things05:37
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pwnguinvlc wouldn't be so bad if they stopped refusing to admit they had a problem05:38
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pwnguinits obvious they do to users, but on slightly valid grounds, they wont take links to broken videos if they think there's a copyright issue05:39
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pwnguin(vlc has some subtitle rendering problems that mplayer handles properly, but it seems only the fansubbers bother putting that much effort into subtitles)05:41
AmaranthRAOF: I didn't write the ati patch05:43
Amaranthi snagged it from upstream05:43
Amaranthi'm going to write the intel patch though05:43
Amaranthbut my patch was missing something and we should just grab the latest driver from experimental anyway05:43
RAOFAmaranth: Aaah, sorry for giving you too much credit :)05:44
Hobbseeyes, stop crediting Amaranth.  he'll get a big head.05:44
RAOFI need to learn how to write drivers.  After I perfect my device for isolating myself from the regular timestream.05:46
pwnguindont worry05:46
pwnguineveryone needs to learn how to write drivers05:46
pwnguinthats what i determined after reading the nv driver05:46
RAOFpwnguin: But that was deliberately obfuscated05:47
pwnguinRAOF: that seems to have gone away05:47
RAOF*I* need to learn how to fix nouveau :)05:47
pwnguinive seen old code with hex etc05:47
pwnguinbut i recently pulled from source and it doesn't seem too bad05:47
RAOFSoon it'll be time to encourage users to break their systems by installing nouveau and the git DRM it requires!05:48
pwnguinof course, i still have no idea what nv_shadow.c does05:48
pwnguini say, put nouveau in gobuntu05:48
RAOFNot a bad idea.  It won't work well, though.05:49
pwnguinit cant be much worse than nv05:49
RAOFYes it can05:49
RAOFFor example, with nv I can have an Iceweasel that renders correctly :P05:50
pwnguinstill, might as well have it out there as an optional replacement to nvidia-glx05:50
RAOFExcept that it doesn't actually do 3D to any usable extent05:51
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RAOF(IE: glxgears will run, as long as you only ever run one of them at a time, and the window's width is <= the height)05:52
RAOFSure, I'm running it on my Sid install, but it's not really anything that you'd want to use, rather than test.05:52
pwnguinpersonally, id rather see it hit sooner rather than later, even if it could only be called a "preview" release05:53
RAOFOh, yeah.  I'll probably package them up and throw them into my experimental repository.05:53
RAOFBut they're not ready to be used :)05:53
pwnguinoh right, the ppa05:53
pwnguinis that up now?05:53
RAOFOooh, actually it is.05:54
pwnguini might build custom kernels that way ;)05:54
RAOFI was thinking of my personal repository, but the ppa might be a fun thing to test.05:54
pwnguincertainly, its a pita when kernel or alsa people say "try the latest upstream version"05:55
RAOFI do (almost) all my bug reporting though launchpad, so that's not really something I come across very often :)05:55
pwnguinwhenver i bring up jack sense, the first thing i get from crimsun is "try the new alsa". which might be the right response05:57
pwnguinbut its not very fun on my part05:58
RAOFHeh.  For crimsun, that's a sanity-preserving reflex05:58
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masterlokinautilus crashes opon opening a folder which is in a folder07:06
masterlokiso say for sake of argument i have on desktop folder abc07:06
masterlokiand inside folder abc i have bcd and cde07:06
masterlokii can open abc just fine but trying to open either bcd or cde [second level folders]  kills nautilus again making it crash somehow07:07
RAOFWell known.  Welcome to gutsy :)07:07
masterlokimloki@mloki-gutsy:~$ nautilus07:08
masterlokiInitializing gnome-mount extension07:08
masterloki** ERROR **: file nautilus-navigation-window.c: line 834 (activate_nth_short_list_item): assertion failed: (index < g_list_length (window->details->short_list_viewers))07:08
masterlokiAborted (core dumped)07:08
masterlokiother than grabbing rox-filer to get me through - what kinda thing does this?07:08
masterlokioh and thanx :P07:08
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databuddygah ovah here now07:10
databuddymasterloki is my roomatezorz07:10
=== databuddy pats
databuddybtw masterloki: sudo apt-get install rox-filer07:10
databuddyalt+f2 rox-filer07:10
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databuddymasterloki rox-filer is another file browser like nautilius - quite a light one in fact - you see that on my icewm installs usually07:12
databuddytho to open files its a little different at first kinda - but youll get it07:12
masterlokiok I will try this out07:12
masterlokidatabuddy I got this07:13
masterlokiNo run action specified for files of this type (audio/x-mpegurl) - you can set a run action by choosing `Set Run Action' from the File menu, or you can just drag the file to an application.07:13
databuddyright click etc07:13
databuddybut it remembers them so its not so bad07:13
databuddyyou might wanna put an icon for it on your [laughs]  desktop + / or / panel07:14
databuddymasterloki get that figured out?07:19
databuddyinstall rox-filer07:19
databuddythats done right?07:19
masterlokigot that07:19
databuddyrun it.07:20
masterlokiok did07:20
databuddygot that done right?07:20
databuddybrowse to folder which contains say an anime file.07:20
databuddyright click on said file.07:20
databuddythere should be something near run07:20
databuddylike set this and that07:20
databuddybah brb07:20
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masterlokithe desktop thing is a hey btw07:30
masterlokiwell if anyone else has trouble with nautils07:30
masterlokii changed it so it doesnt display the desktop] 07:30
masterlokiand unclicked always_use_browser07:30
masterlokiso it now opens seperate windows for each folder but it actually does it which is kinda nice07:30
masterloki=P] 07:30
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masterlokiyeah its the always_use_browser setting that seems to be important!07:32
zanaganautilus is broken?07:35
zanagai better not reboot my computer then =)07:35
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databuddyzanaga its not that bad07:40
databuddyjust change the setting above for fixingness07:40
zanaganah, i'll just wait for a fix without restarting nautilus =)07:40
zanagaalthough, i liked the browser mode07:41
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databuddyzanaga no restarting nautilus07:59
databuddyopen a folder > [file?]  > preferences > that setting07:59
databuddyor applications > system tools > config editor > apps > nautilus > forgotwhichone > that setting08:00
zanagadatabuddy: yeah, but i'm still running with a working nautilus08:00
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databuddyzanaga no need to reboot atall most likely08:34
databuddyRAOF in the future have ppl uncheck the thingie that tells it to be a browser window08:35
databuddyletting it open windows in seperate processes worked great as a fix ^^08:35
RAOFdatabuddy: Aaah, which is why I haven't been seeing it.  I use spacial :)08:45
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GodzChildanyone using compiz-fusion on gusty?10:19
GodzChildThe following packages have unmet dependencies:10:24
GodzChild  compiz-gnome: Depends: libwnck18 (>= 2.15.90) but it is not installable10:24
GodzChildE: Broken packages10:24
GodzChildwhat the hell is that10:25
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rskGodzChild: what you get sometimes when running a development version of ubuntu10:28
GodzChildwell im trying to install compiz..10:29
GodzChildon gusty10:29
rskreport it as a bug, it's probably already known.10:29
GodzChildand it tells me i need libwnck810:29
rskwait a day or two and im sure it's fixed10:29
rskand make sure you are up to date10:30
rskby doing apt-get update apt-get upgrade apt-get dist-upgrade10:31
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worzelhi can some one help me please10:35
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RAOFGodzChild: That's because you're using an unofficial, Feisty repository11:05
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RAOFGodzChild: Remove the trevinho repository, which will only break things.  Gutsy *already* has fusion packages, installed and enabled by default!11:05
RAOFGodzChild: Also, please don't report any compiz bugs while you have that repository enabled.11:07
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frandavid100hi guys12:10
frandavid100can you tell me if you get this problem with the icons, using an icon theme like, say, gnome? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3077051&postcount=2012:11
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asisakfrandavid100: checking12:30
frandavid100thanks asisak12:30
asisakno idea, though :(12:31
frandavid100um... if you open synaptic, for example, does the green check button look fine or fuzzy like in my screenshots?12:32
asisakmaybe "fuzzy"12:34
frandavid100alright, last one; if, in synaptic, you open configuration  preferences, does the check there look sharper than the one you just saw?12:35
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(webjames/#ubuntu+1) rjek: any, i've got a laptop and if it's stolen i don't want my data being looked at, so encrypted file system04:26
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webjamesthanks rjek04:37
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DanaGhmm, https://launchpad.net/wubi05:33
DanaGAny chance of getting that to give an interactive install, instead?05:33
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PiciDanaG: Hmm? Wubi isnt an official Ubuntu install method, its a 3rd party product.05:34
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