=== Toxicity999 [n=bryan@unaffiliated/Toxicity999] has joined #ubuntu+1 === defcon [n=defcon@71-223-66-88.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === levander` [i=cponder@user-1121cbv.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === samushka [n=sammy@modemcable234.239-202-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:41] sytem idle, no programs running... cpu load hovers round 60-70% at all times.... what gives? [12:41] :/ [12:41] what app is taking it+ [12:41] none, i just checked. [12:41] are you have same issues w/ gutsy? [12:41] cant say i have [12:42] hmmm, wierd. [12:42] i have nvidia drivers installed, thought that would alleviate it... nope. [12:43] the only app taking juice is gnome system monitor @ 12% [12:44] use top in a terminal. [12:44] It's more precise and doesn't skew the results so much. [12:45] wats the command? [12:45] top [12:45] k lemme try [12:46] says cpu @ 45%, yet whats listed doesnt account for that much [12:46] (thx for heads up on "top" btw, thats awesome) === golden_agouti [n=chatzill@d51A5D232.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === WaxyFresh [n=r00t@204.181.128.161] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:50] what does tribe mean [12:51] Im guessing Feisty Fawns live in Tribes and not Herds :) [12:52] confused* [12:55] !tribe [12:55] Sorry, I don't know anything about tribe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [12:55] !herd [12:55] Sorry, I don't know anything about herd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi === bipolar [n=bflong@70.44.53.89] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:57] samushka: quit top, and copy-and-paste what it last said to rafb.net/paste [12:57] could someone tell me what herd tribe and freeze stand for? [12:57] WaxyFresh, I am not certain but with feisty when it was alpha they were calling the alpha releases Herd1 herd2 ... and now with Gutsy they are being called Tribe1.... [12:57] They're all gimicky names, like "fiesty" is. Freeze means no more changes other than bug fixes. [12:57] thanks [12:58] they could just as easily call them Aplha1, Alpha2 I guess but where is the fun in that === pipoca_atomica [i=sphm@201-95-55-213.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Pricey [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 === WaxyFresh [n=r00t@204.181.128.161] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === SuPeRhOmEm [i=sphm@unaffiliated/superhomem] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === burner [n=burner@c-71-56-237-100.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === TheGoodShepherd Disappears. === `23meg [n=m@ubuntu/member/-23meg] has joined #ubuntu+1 === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === terlmann [n=terlmann@207.254.168.168] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:40] anyone here familiar with really hard issues ? [01:40] dunno [01:40] we can't read minds [01:40] A is a debian system (desktop) which I want to serve Feisty to B over ethernet. net install from the web and straight cdrom install are out of the question. [01:41] is there a way to do this ? [01:41] not an apt mirror , a straight install [01:42] You want to netboot install? [01:42] sorta === RAOF [n=chris@123-243-65-41.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:42] Copy the contents of the CD to a directory served by your webserver and then set up dhcpd, tftpd and pxelinux as described in the netboot docs on the CD. [01:43] but not such as tries to netboot and use the internet to install [01:43] Then use that directory on your web server as an alternative mirror to install from. [01:43] It takes about 5 minutes to set up - I had to do this recently for my laptop. [01:43] feisty doesnt have a netboot dir [01:44] terlmann: What's in install/netboot/ then? [01:44] /media/cdrom/install# dir [01:44] mt86plus README.sbm sbm.bin [01:44] there is no such folder [01:44] I dont get it [01:44] There is on my 7.04 i386 CD. [01:44] initrd.gz mt86plus netboot/ README.sbm sbm.bin vmlinuz [01:44] mine is 7.04 and i386 [01:46] a remount says same thing [01:46] no such folder [01:47] Where did you download the CD from? [01:48] torrent [01:48] I think [01:48] Where did you download the CD from? [01:48] could have been main site [01:48] Ah. You may need to use the alternative CD rather than the Live CD. [01:48] That's the only difference I can think of. === rjek always uses the alternative CD as it's less faff and faster. [01:49] is there a way to wdelta the diff between live and alternate ? [01:49] They're completely different. You'd just end up downloading it all again. [01:49] You're welcome to try rsync though. I bet it's not worth it. [01:50] http://releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/ubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386.iso [01:50] I dont have that kind of bandwidth [01:50] Then you can't install it over the network [01:50] mine is about a 50kbs connect , and I share it with two bbroters [01:50] INSIDE the house is a ethernet [01:51] 100 mbs [01:51] OUTSIDE is wireless and limited [01:51] What is the actual problem you're trying to solve? There may be another solution. [01:51] its a dell laptop [01:51] and it takes forever to load feisty [01:52] Please provide more details than "dell laptop" and "forever to load feisty" [01:52] booting up is 10+ Minutes , and ubiqity never got to the first screen [01:52] Is this from the CD? [01:52] me here [01:52] You may find that your laptop's CD-ROM drive sucks. The Live CD is seek-heavy. [01:52] no [01:52] thats true [01:52] I don't understand what you're trying to do or what your problem is. Please start again. [01:53] its a 1100 dell latitude [01:53] newer line === kazuki [n=kazuki@cpe-65-189-8-164.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:53] or older if you dont know about the older line [01:53] OK. [01:53] and I want to put ubuntu on ut [01:53] it [01:53] What are you trying to do (ie, what is the end result you want) and what problem are you having? [01:53] it seeks forever and loads forever [01:54] there is the problem [01:54] I am trying to use my limited resources to get the dang thing to work [01:54] I have a desktop as well [01:54] in debian [01:54] What do you mean by "in debian" ? [01:54] installed in debian lenny === rjek can only find references to Dell Inspiron 1100. Is that the same? [01:55] yes [01:55] You've got lenny on there at the moment? [01:55] the lappy is a 1100 [01:55] no , on the desktop [01:55] OK. [01:55] on here -> [01:55] ;-) [01:55] Right. If using the live CD you've got isn't an acceptable way of installing, you've got a few options: [01:55] 1) Spend an age waiting for the alternative install CD to download, [01:56] 2) Spend a while waiting for Canonical to post you a CD, [01:56] 3) Try downloading a minimal network boot CD and only installing precisely what you want and need by downloading just those packages. [01:57] Actually, I'm not sure if you can do 3 anymore. === tatters [n=test@AC8EB1E5.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:57] 4) Transplant laptop hard drive into another machine, and install there. [01:58] impossible for 4 [01:58] Oh, if you're willing to go dapper->edgy->feisty->gutsy, which is a PITA and is risky, there's instlux. === bipolar [n=bflong@70.44.53.89] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #ubuntu+1 === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === gourdin [n=adept@dau94-8-88-166-31-178.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === thomax [n=thomas@217-148-245-199.happymany.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === BaD_CrC [n=ns@c-71-231-214-232.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:58] terlmann: Impossible why? Don't want to void a warrenty or similar? [01:58] If so, I don't think you've got any choice that doesn't involve downloading another 650MB. [01:59] Oh hey, if you have 100 megabit ethernet, you can boot one PC from the other to install. [01:59] (or waiting for Canonical to post you a CD, which can take months) [01:59] I have inhouse 100 megabit [01:59] DanaG: You cant netboot with the Live CD version, which is what terlmann has. [01:59] true [01:59] I was hoping there were only slight diffs twixt alt and live [02:00] but it's not so [02:00] Sorry, I think you're out of options. Can you perhaps visit an internet cafe and download the alternative CD? [02:00] terlmann: The alternative CD contains a bunch of .deb packages. The Live CD contains a compressed hard disc image. [02:00] I imagine you might save having to download 10MB. [02:00] I see that [02:00] I cant visit town at the moment [02:01] Sorry I couldn't help more. I'm all out of ideas. [02:01] ok [02:01] wait one [02:01] "On a windows only machine, you may consider installing Grub for DOS, then extract the kernel image from a LiveCD, put it on a vfat partition, and boot from there: The Original Post at the Gentoo Forum" [02:01] This also requires two computers, you can run a tftp server on one computer with the initrd and kernel, whil [02:01] the live is a deb cache [02:01] I tried installing Elisa (media centre) ,it fails miserably to load ,Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/elisa", line 5, in from pkg_resources import load_entry_pointImportError: No module named pkg_resources [02:01] it is [02:01] I have tftp [02:01] For Gentoo, but Ubuntu may still apply. [02:02] I have a howto to netboot ubuntu [02:02] I have now the files [02:02] sry meant to paste http://pastebin.com/d2deed11e [02:02] http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/386/ [02:03] There's a very vague possibility that if you've got Windows on the laptop already, you could copy the contents of the CD into the Windows partition, install grub, get grub to boot the Linux and initrd images from there, and then hack about with the Live CD's boot scripts to mount the drive image from the Windows partition instead of the CD. [02:03] But that's hideously complex, and I wouldn't know where to start to do it. [02:03] how do we do that [02:03] I can do that [02:03] windows xp is on the machine [02:03] It'd take me longer to work out how to do it than it'd take you to find the time to visit an internet cafe :) [02:04] I havnt any ability to go to town [02:04] cafe's dont grow in kansas budy [02:04] It'd take me a week to work out how to do it, and I've got other things to do, sorry. [02:04] fine [02:04] I read something about it somewhere [02:05] I suggest you start downloading the alternative CD in the background throttled so not to monopolise your connection. [02:05] Perhaps you have a friend who could download it and post you it? [02:06] http://www.seandeasy.com/installing-ubuntu-the-easy-way/ [02:06] there is the windows tech [02:06] also alternate [02:06] thats ok [02:07] well as for the bandwidth , I cant hog it during 1-7 pm , much less use it. 2 younger siblings play WoW and xbox live [02:07] if I even start surfing they jink in their games(and attack me respectivly) [02:07] I can do this [02:08] I have used linux for 5 years and went through 20+ distros [02:08] Lucky I was to get me some standard hardware [02:08] SCREW laptops ! [02:08] whitebox amd forever ! [02:09] My advice is to always use the alternative CD. It's much more flexible. Again, sorry I can't help any more. [02:09] thats ok [02:10] tatters: I suggest you email the maintainers, file a bug, or ask on an elisa-specific forum. === Toxicity999 [n=bryan@unaffiliated/Toxicity999] has joined #ubuntu+1 === terlmann gets out the cans of Whoop-ass that have been gathering dust and rides off.. === thompa [n=thompa@c-68-53-85-246.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:15] I dont understand why I cant see both this and my yahoo chat in pidgin [02:16] or is that the way its suppossed to be, === thompa [n=thompa@c-68-53-85-246.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-50-136.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ToHellWithGA [n=ryan@p1-72-rb5.clm.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:26] Seems to be doing well, no lock ups with the new version =] === MikeW [n=em@nat.davidcoulson.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toxicity999 [n=bryan@unaffiliated/Toxicity999] has joined #ubuntu+1 === MikeW [n=em@nat.davidcoulson.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === xnix [n=xnix@n157s046.ntc.blacksburg.shentel.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:30] howdy [02:30] anyone aware of any current issues with the latest gusty gibbon generic kernel and agpgart/nvidia drivers === defcon [n=defcon@216-160-208-250.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === Adlai [i=adlaiff6@nat/google/x-a27a76565a99f64d] has joined #ubuntu+1 === holzmodem [n=holzmode@dslb-084-060-204-054.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === johnnybuoy [i=johnny@gateway/tor/x-99c5f59b714dd1f4] has joined #ubuntu+1 === johnnybuoy [i=johnny@gateway/tor/x-99c5f59b714dd1f4] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] === vlowther [n=vlowther@adsl-75-55-115-198.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === h1st0 [n=histo@h7.112.29.71.ip.alltel.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === golden_agouti [n=chatzill@d51A5D232.access.telenet.be] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === defcon [n=defcon@71-36-166-106.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === onechard [n=chard@ip68-98-192-143.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === firephoto [n=tom@pool-71-120-230-100.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === compwiz18 [n=adam18@metarb3-pool1-8.mtco.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ShackJack [n=nate@c-65-96-48-74.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:27] Just wondering - has anyone tried/know if the feisty repo of virtualbox works on Gutsy? === orbish [n=larry@d47-69-153-4.col.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:33] anyone know a way to tell my box to use "cp -vR" by typing "cp"? basically shortcut my commands [03:34] my old boss showed me like 3 years ago but i forgot [03:34] Add an alias. [03:34] i'll google it, thank you === bipolar [n=bflong@70.44.53.89] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tatters [n=test@AC8EB1E5.ipt.aol.com] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Kopete] === fiveiron [n=fiveiron@74-137-145-70.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-34-25-150.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ShackJack [n=nate@c-65-96-48-74.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-34-25-150.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === fiveiron [n=fiveiron@74-137-145-70.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === dandel_ [n=dandel@pool-71-96-79-252.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === maniacmusician_ [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === kaide1 [n=ubuntu@c-71-197-188-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-34-25-150.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:17] Anyone have any ideas why Tribe 3 doesn't notice raid arrays that are created with the bios on an asus crosshair motherboard, it uses a silicon image 3132 chip [04:17] It shows the drives up separately instead of 1 single striped disk like is created === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === neoncode [n=neoncode@84.13.95.29] has joined #ubuntu+1 === defcon [n=defcon@71-223-66-88.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:49] If I install Gutsy tribe 3 is it likely to corrupt my RAID 5 Array I use for /home? === assasukasse [n=agostino@host-84-222-168-118.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mister_roboto [n=jrk@24-136-22-252.hnc-bsr1.chi-hnc.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === RAOF [n=Chris_@matht464.maths.unsw.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === corevette [n=corevett@adsl-75-35-72-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:07] what can i add to 'sudo dpkg -i *.deb' to install dependencies automatically? [05:08] corevette: Use gdebi :) [05:08] in the terminal === mister_roboto [n=jrk@24-136-22-252.hnc-bsr1.chi-hnc.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:09] apt-get -f install [05:10] RAOF: gdebi doesnt handle deps automaticlaly, i thought [05:11] Hobbsee: It did last time I tried it, I think. [05:11] and plus i'm on kubuntu+1 anyways [05:11] Although I can count the number of times I've tried to install a deb manually (that I haven't just pbuilt) on the fingers of one hand. [05:11] RAOF: ah nice [05:11] heh [05:12] wait how do i install a local file [05:12] and get dependencies [05:12] without gdebi [05:12] apt-get -f install [05:12] where do i put the deb [05:12] Wherever you want? [05:13] sudo apt-get -f install pidgin_2.0.1-1_i386.deb ? [05:13] Why are you trying to install an old version of pidgin? [05:14] ...where's the new? [05:14] dpkg -i the deb, then run the apt-get -f isntall [05:14] nevermind [05:14] i got it [05:14] corevette: apt-get install pidgin === corevette [n=corevett@adsl-75-35-72-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] === BotLobsta [n=kevin@ppp-70-242-26-100.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:15] can anyone help me with what im assuming to be gdm? === Vuen [n=nick@bas9-ottawa23-1088816890.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:16] hey guys, what's the status on compiz by default for gutsy? [05:17] It's on by default already [05:17] oh awesome [05:17] that's totally awesome [05:17] will that stick? [05:17] Yes [05:17] wicked [05:17] Unless the critical bugs don't get fixed [05:17] critical = black window bug on nvidia/ [05:17] ? [05:18] No way === Dekkard [n=right@adsl-67-38-4-143.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:18] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bugs [05:18] Top 3 are critical. The black window bug isn't a bug in compiz, anyway. [05:19] yeah i know, but it's still critical as far as compiz by default goes, right? [05:19] No [05:19] though i assume they would just disable it on nvidia cards and leave it on for intel? [05:19] Not at all [05:19] ah [05:19] Only a small fraction of nvidia users see that at all. [05:19] the current plan is that it will stick, yes [05:20] Bigger ones include: compiz breaks Xv on all open drivers [05:21] gsetroot [05:21] will it be on by default on kubuntu? [05:21] Dekkard: Is that aimed at anyone? [05:22] no.. sorry [05:22] Hobbsee: That's your cue :) [05:22] well on my gentoo system upgrading to 6.6.192 of the ati drivers fixed Xv [05:22] !info xserver-xorg-video-ati gutsy [05:22] xserver-xorg-video-ati: X.Org X server -- ATI display driver. In component main, is optional. Version 1:6.6.3-2ubuntu6 (gutsy), package size 375 kB, installed size 884 kB [05:22] crdlb: And Amaranth has a patch that fixes it, too. [05:23] backported it? [05:23] No, wrote it [05:23] oh that works too [05:24] sorry, what is Xv? [05:24] Xvideo [05:24] used for hardware-scaled video playback [05:24] Vuen: possibly. it doesnt integrate well with kde yet. [05:24] AKA: Make my video look good and play well. [05:24] RAOF: thanks :) [05:25] Hobbsee: yeah, i've been running k gutsy for a couple weeks now. i'd love to leave compiz on but kde-window-decorator segfaults randomly and constantly [05:25] maybe i'll dig through the source sometime and try and fix it [05:26] can anyone help with gdm hanging whenever the X server restarts? [05:26] I guess ati 6.7 won't be out in time for gutsy [05:27] Vuen: that'd be good [05:28] Vuen: From the compiz ML it seems that k-w-d is, indeed, a crash-happy monkey. [05:28] indeed :( [05:29] also has lots of weird drawing glitches [05:29] wrt maximized windows [05:29] mm [05:29] well i've fixed a couple bugs in beryl before, so i'm not new to the code [05:29] Oh, awesome. [05:29] Go! Go! [05:29] is it just me or is h264 playback taken a turn for the worse recently [05:30] and i don't work tomorrow, so i've got squat to do. hopefully i'll be able to make some headway into what's wrong. [05:30] (on linux) [05:30] pwnguin: do you get a lot of flickering back and forth between frames? [05:30] pwnguin: especially when seeking? [05:30] i do get flickering, but it kinda looks like a vblank type problem [05:30] ah, yeah i think i get the same thing [05:30] but worse seems to be a huge fps mismatch [05:31] started happening like two days ago? [05:31] sounds about right [05:31] yep [05:31] i get the same problem in feisty as i do gutsy [05:31] i get similar effects. still works well enough as long as i'm not doing anything else while the video's playing [05:31] hmm [05:31] anyway i gotta run, later [05:32] im sure matroska doesn't help [05:32] for reasons unknown to me, gstreamer can't cope with .mkv [05:33] what's rather annoying is that the anime fansub groups can't agree on what's best [05:34] mkv is great for them because they don't have to hardcode subtitles into the video -- [05:35] but the only player that handles mkv well enough is vlc, which does poorly with subtitiles in certain scenarios [05:35] Heh. === jim [n=jim@114-41-178-69.gci.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jim [n=jim@114-41-178-69.gci.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:35] FFmpeg (and by extension, MPlayer) should handle them well enough, no? [05:36] apparently not [05:36] mplayer usually handles mkvs okay, but it seems to choke on a video i grabbed recently [05:37] granted, we're talking about a video that claims to be 1280x720 [05:37] A/V is a minefield of people doing stupid things === RxDx [n=Rodrigo@201-75-182-77-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:38] vlc wouldn't be so bad if they stopped refusing to admit they had a problem === thomax_ [n=thomas@217-148-244-142.happymany.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:39] its obvious they do to users, but on slightly valid grounds, they wont take links to broken videos if they think there's a copyright issue === cps1966 [n=kane@204.183.116.161] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:41] (vlc has some subtitle rendering problems that mplayer handles properly, but it seems only the fansubbers bother putting that much effort into subtitles) [05:43] RAOF: I didn't write the ati patch [05:43] i snagged it from upstream [05:43] i'm going to write the intel patch though [05:43] but my patch was missing something and we should just grab the latest driver from experimental anyway [05:44] Amaranth: Aaah, sorry for giving you too much credit :) [05:44] Cool [05:44] yes, stop crediting Amaranth. he'll get a big head. [05:45] *cough* [05:46] I need to learn how to write drivers. After I perfect my device for isolating myself from the regular timestream. [05:46] dont worry [05:46] everyone needs to learn how to write drivers [05:46] thats what i determined after reading the nv driver [05:47] pwnguin: But that was deliberately obfuscated [05:47] RAOF: that seems to have gone away [05:47] *I* need to learn how to fix nouveau :) [05:47] ive seen old code with hex etc [05:47] but i recently pulled from source and it doesn't seem too bad [05:48] Soon it'll be time to encourage users to break their systems by installing nouveau and the git DRM it requires! [05:48] of course, i still have no idea what nv_shadow.c does [05:48] i say, put nouveau in gobuntu [05:49] Not a bad idea. It won't work well, though. [05:49] it cant be much worse than nv [05:49] Yes it can [05:50] For example, with nv I can have an Iceweasel that renders correctly :P [05:50] still, might as well have it out there as an optional replacement to nvidia-glx [05:51] Except that it doesn't actually do 3D to any usable extent === vlowther [n=vlowther@adsl-75-55-115-198.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:52] (IE: glxgears will run, as long as you only ever run one of them at a time, and the window's width is <= the height) [05:52] Sure, I'm running it on my Sid install, but it's not really anything that you'd want to use, rather than test. [05:53] personally, id rather see it hit sooner rather than later, even if it could only be called a "preview" release [05:53] Oh, yeah. I'll probably package them up and throw them into my experimental repository. [05:53] But they're not ready to be used :) [05:53] oh right, the ppa [05:53] is that up now? [05:54] Oooh, actually it is. [05:54] heh [05:54] i might build custom kernels that way ;) [05:54] I was thinking of my personal repository, but the ppa might be a fun thing to test. [05:55] certainly, its a pita when kernel or alsa people say "try the latest upstream version" [05:55] I do (almost) all my bug reporting though launchpad, so that's not really something I come across very often :) [05:57] whenver i bring up jack sense, the first thing i get from crimsun is "try the new alsa". which might be the right response [05:58] but its not very fun on my part [05:58] Heh. For crimsun, that's a sanity-preserving reflex === Tomcat_` [n=Tomcat@p54A1FE7C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mister_roboto [n=jrk@24-136-22-252.hnc-bsr1.chi-hnc.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu+1 === defcon [n=defcon@71-223-66-88.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === BotLobsta [n=kevin@ppp-70-242-26-100.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === levander` [i=cponder@user-11fasdp.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === RxDx [n=Rodrigo@201-75-182-77-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br] has joined #ubuntu+1 === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 === defcon [n=defcon@71-223-66-88.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === defcon_ [n=defcon@71-36-166-106.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:06] ok [07:06] so [07:06] nautilus crashes opon opening a folder which is in a folder [07:06] so say for sake of argument i have on desktop folder abc [07:06] and inside folder abc i have bcd and cde [07:07] i can open abc just fine but trying to open either bcd or cde [second level folders] kills nautilus again making it crash somehow [07:07] grah!?!!??! [07:07] Well known. Welcome to gutsy :) [07:08] mloki@mloki-gutsy:~$ nautilus [07:08] Initializing gnome-mount extension [07:08] ** ERROR **: file nautilus-navigation-window.c: line 834 (activate_nth_short_list_item): assertion failed: (index < g_list_length (window->details->short_list_viewers)) [07:08] aborting... [07:08] Aborted (core dumped) [07:08] other than grabbing rox-filer to get me through - what kinda thing does this? [07:08] oh and thanx :P === databuddy [n=emostar@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:10] gah ovah here now [07:10] masterloki is my roomatezorz === databuddy pats [07:10] btw masterloki: sudo apt-get install rox-filer [07:10] alt+f2 rox-filer [07:10] ;) === sethbc [n=sethbc@cpe-66-108-162-181.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:12] masterloki rox-filer is another file browser like nautilius - quite a light one in fact - you see that on my icewm installs usually [07:12] tho to open files its a little different at first kinda - but youll get it [07:12] ok I will try this out [07:13] databuddy I got this [07:13] No run action specified for files of this type (audio/x-mpegurl) - you can set a run action by choosing `Set Run Action' from the File menu, or you can just drag the file to an application. [07:13] right click etc [07:13] yup [07:13] but it remembers them so its not so bad [07:14] you might wanna put an icon for it on your [laughs] desktop + / or / panel [07:14] ;)_ [07:19] masterloki get that figured out? [07:19] no [07:19] ............ [07:19] install rox-filer [07:19] thats done right? [07:19] got that [07:20] run it. [07:20] ok did [07:20] got that done right? [07:20] ok [07:20] browse to folder which contains say an anime file. [07:20] right click on said file. [07:20] there should be something near run [07:20] like set this and that [07:20] bah brb === Toma- [n=e17@210-84-16-225.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:30] the desktop thing is a hey btw [07:30] gah [07:30] well if anyone else has trouble with nautils [07:30] i changed it so it doesnt display the desktop] [07:30] and unclicked always_use_browser [07:30] so it now opens seperate windows for each folder but it actually does it which is kinda nice [07:30] =P] === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5F9B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@208.69.214.65] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:32] yeah its the always_use_browser setting that seems to be important! [07:35] nautilus is broken? [07:35] i better not reboot my computer then =) === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF203E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:40] zanaga its not that bad [07:40] just change the setting above for fixingness [07:40] nah, i'll just wait for a fix without restarting nautilus =) [07:41] although, i liked the browser mode === Adlai_ [n=adlaiff6@user-64-9-234-176.googlewifi.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === RAOF [n=chris@123-243-65-41.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:59] zanaga no restarting nautilus [07:59] open a folder > [file?] > preferences > that setting [08:00] or applications > system tools > config editor > apps > nautilus > forgotwhichone > that setting [08:00] databuddy: yeah, but i'm still running with a working nautilus === kingrayray [n=kingrayr@pool-71-112-146-243.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === RAOF [n=chris@123-243-65-41.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:34] zanaga no need to reboot atall most likely [08:35] RAOF in the future have ppl uncheck the thingie that tells it to be a browser window [08:35] letting it open windows in seperate processes worked great as a fix ^^ [08:45] databuddy: Aaah, which is why I haven't been seeing it. 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[10:24] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [10:24] compiz-gnome: Depends: libwnck18 (>= 2.15.90) but it is not installable [10:24] E: Broken packages [10:25] what the hell is that === Adlai_ [n=adlaiff6@user-64-9-234-176.googlewifi.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:28] GodzChild: what you get sometimes when running a development version of ubuntu [10:29] well im trying to install compiz.. [10:29] on gusty [10:29]