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| vbabiy | O ok | 12:14 |
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| jwendell | Hi geser, i saw i've commented on my upload | 01:05 |
| jwendell | TheMuso, could you review it now? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6163 | 01:07 |
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| RAOF | Sweet zombie jesus, why does our azureus package use CDBS and Debian's use raw debhelper? | 01:43 |
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| StevenK | Heh. Neat. | 01:46 |
| RAOF | No. Not neat. | 01:47 |
| === RAOF grumbles quietly in the background | ||
| ajmitch | because someone though it'd be nice to change | 01:48 |
| StevenK | Blame Fujitsu. | 01:48 |
| === RAOF blames Fujitsu | ||
| StevenK | Actually, surely the changelog should say who is to blame. | 01:51 |
| ajmitch | only if someone was helpful enough to document it | 01:53 |
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| === RAOF suspects jdong, if only because his name is last on our changelog. | ||
| calc | RAOF: yea i looked at the azureus package and ran away from it quick | 01:56 |
| calc | RAOF: i was going to merge it a while back but decided to leave it for the experts ;) | 01:56 |
| RAOF | Right. So, I'm going to do my darndest to ensure that we can just sync the darn thing in future. | 01:57 |
| calc | probably figure out what is useful difference and then just add that to the debian version | 01:58 |
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| TheMuso | Hey RAOF, ajmitch, StevenK. | 01:59 |
| RAOF | Hey TheMuso. | 01:59 |
| RAOF | Why do people suddenly feel that bugs like "please merge foo from bar" will magically attract swarms of merge fairies? | 02:00 |
| === StevenK waves to TheMuso | ||
| ajmitch | hello TheMuso | 02:01 |
| === ajmitch is off for lunch | ||
| calc | how long does it take to get a resolution for a core dev app? | 02:01 |
| calc | i applied 11 days ago and only got one response since then, heh | 02:02 |
| calc | not even -1 go away messsages | 02:02 |
| RAOF | Man, we patch the living bejeezus out of azureus. | 02:11 |
| StevenK | azureus_2.5.0.0repack1-0ubuntu1.patch 05-Jan-2007 08:10 20M | 02:12 |
| StevenK | ARGH! | 02:13 |
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| calc | RAOF: kill it! :) | 02:16 |
| nixternal | jwendell: you are one l off of being the super famous fatal1ty :) | 02:16 |
| jwendell | ok, i'm sorry | 02:17 |
| nixternal | calc: how many people have bugged you so far about OOo locking up? | 02:17 |
| calc | RAOF: maybe azureus should stay as is for testing new MOTU's skill of fixing stuff ;) | 02:17 |
| calc | nixternal: a few apparently its a bug in new gtk | 02:17 |
| calc | nixternal: works fine on my box though so its not easily reproducible apparently | 02:17 |
| nixternal | hehe, ya that bug in GTK broke a few things | 02:17 |
| StevenK | calc: Yeah, and how many people would we scare off saying "Fix that hulking piece of crap" ? | 02:17 |
| nixternal | it just started today for me | 02:17 |
| calc | StevenK: hehe | 02:17 |
| nixternal | or I noticed it today | 02:17 |
| Amaranth | calc: for core-dev you have to wait for a TB meeting | 02:18 |
| calc | Amaranth: oh ok, i don't need full +1 vote from motu council though? | 02:18 |
| StevenK | Amaranth: But he hasn't even gotten one vote yet | 02:18 |
| calc | StevenK: i got one i think | 02:18 |
| calc | yea from stefan | 02:18 |
| === StevenK votes -1. Not anymore. :-P | ||
| calc | StevenK: :P | 02:18 |
| === calc goes to dinner, bbl | ||
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| RAOF | Ah, OK. That's why azureus is such a pest. Debian isn't the upstream source, Fedora Core is! | 02:25 |
| StevenK | Argh! | 02:26 |
| StevenK | RAOF: Surely sync'ing the damn thing is in our best interest. | 02:27 |
| RAOF | We'll have a bunch of regessions doing that, particularly the gcj native build. | 02:29 |
| StevenK | Okay, how about a patch smaller than 20Mb? :-) | 02:29 |
| RAOF | But, yes, syncing the damn thing seems like a good idea :) | 02:29 |
| RAOF | I can probably manage that. | 02:30 |
| === RAOF wonders if anyone would miss the gcj build. AFAIK it's never really worked terribly well. | ||
| StevenK | I thought gcj was quicker | 02:32 |
| RAOF | Yes, but not than running on the actual java VM? | 02:32 |
| RAOF | Also, works less often, at least as far as ubuntuforums seems to think. | 02:32 |
| StevenK | You can file a sync saying "The gcj build is crap and doesn't work so should go" would probably work. | 02:35 |
| === RAOF blinks at the azureus package again. | ||
| RAOF | You know, the upstream tarball seems to be repacked into a new subdirectory, and have some random plugins added to it. | 02:40 |
| === RAOF starts whistling "sync, sync, sync, sync!" (to the tune of the spam song) | ||
| TheMuso | heh | 02:42 |
| ScottK | Sync and if it doesn't work, file a removal bug. | 02:43 |
| ScottK | ajmitch: That's the bitterness. | 02:44 |
| RAOF | So, I'll sync it, which will drop the gcj build and a bunch of plugins which should be in a separate "azureus-plugins" package *anyway*. Then I'll package those up from the actual tarball. | 02:46 |
| TheMuso | RAOF: Does the sid package build in Gutsy? | 02:47 |
| RAOF | Just checking, thanks. | 02:50 |
| RAOF | But I'm pretty sure it has to; it doesn't seem to actually do any building. | 02:51 |
| RAOF | ...or it would, if we called the gtk swt libraries the same thing! | 02:55 |
| StevenK | Heh | 02:55 |
| TheMuso | Oh lovely. | 02:55 |
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| mannytu | hellow | 02:57 |
| ajmitch | ScottK: yay! | 03:01 |
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| zul | oh lindsay lohan will you ever learn | 03:19 |
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| TheMuso | Oh do we even care? | 03:24 |
| StevenK | I don't, for one. | 03:26 |
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| ajmitch | who's that? | 03:29 |
| TheMuso | ajmitch: heh yeah. | 03:30 |
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| RAOF | Right, so libswt3.2-gtk-java violates policy. Yay. | 03:44 |
| TheMuso | RAOF: Well its in universe. Get fixing. :p | 03:47 |
| StevenK | RAOF: Hrm? How? | 03:47 |
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| RAOF | StevenK: It installs it's libs to /usr/lib/java; policy says they go to /usr/share/java | 03:48 |
| StevenK | Hurray! | 03:49 |
| StevenK | Anyone running Gutsy on a desktop? | 03:49 |
| TheMuso | StevenK: I plan to in a week or so... | 03:50 |
| Nafallo | StevenK: yes | 03:50 |
| RAOF | Furthermore, it's built from eclipse source, the latest upload of which fails to build. | 03:50 |
| RAOF | StevenK: Does a laptop count? :) | 03:50 |
| StevenK | Sure. | 03:50 |
| RAOF | Then "yes". | 03:50 |
| StevenK | Nafallo, RAOF: Do either of you mind seeing if bug 99934 is fixed? | 03:50 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 99934 in seahorse "Stalls in infinite loop when creating new ElGamel subkey" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99934 | 03:50 |
| StevenK | It's marked as fixed in Gnome's bug tracker, and Gutsy has 2.19.5, so it should be okay, but I can't check. | 03:51 |
| === ScottK is running Kubuntu, so I guess that's no help. | ||
| RAOF | StevenK: Nope. Still hangs. | 03:53 |
| RAOF | I'll leave it running though, to see if it's just taking *ages* | 03:53 |
| StevenK | Gasp. persia is to blame for eclipse. | 03:53 |
| TheMuso | hehe | 03:53 |
| RAOF | The policy violation is presumably still in Debian, though, that was a sync. | 03:54 |
| StevenK | Yup. | 03:54 |
| StevenK | Looks like missing Build-Depends. | 03:55 |
| RAOF | StevenK: Sorry, that is fixed. It just takes a long time without any feedback. | 03:55 |
| StevenK | [exec] xpcom.h:17:21: error: nsXPCOM.h: No such file or directory | 03:55 |
| StevenK | [exec] xpcom.h:18:27: error: nsEmbedString.h: No such file or directory | 03:55 |
| StevenK | [exec] xpcom.h:19:28: error: nsIInputStream.h: No such file or directory | 03:55 |
| StevenK | RAOF: Great, do you want to comment on the bug and nail it shut? | 03:55 |
| RAOF | It's not being built against xulrunner surely? | 03:55 |
| RAOF | StevenK: Certainly. | 03:55 |
| === Nafallo confirms | ||
| StevenK | Actually, a little bit further up the build says "*** Mozilla embedding support will not be compiled." | 03:56 |
| StevenK | RAOF: And yes, it is being built against xulrunner. | 03:57 |
| StevenK | RAOF: Should that be fixed? | 03:58 |
| === RAOF had nothing but annoying segfaults trying to build democracy against xulrunner. But that was because the gnome-extras package is built against firefox, I think. | ||
| === StevenK looks up if those header files exist in libxul-dev | ||
| RAOF | StevenK: Maybe. I'll try building the newer eclipse against firefox. | 03:59 |
| StevenK | It might just need a give-back. xulrunner was last touched 05/07, and eclipse was synced in the middle of June | 04:00 |
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| StevenK | RAOF: If you aren't playing with eclipse, I'd suggest it get given back. | 04:07 |
| RAOF | StevenK: I'm not playing with it. Although there's a new debian revision that should be sync'd, too. | 04:09 |
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| StevenK | RAOF: I can file a sync after lunch. | 04:12 |
| RAOF | That'll be preferable to a giveback, right | 04:13 |
| RAOF | ? | 04:13 |
| RAOF | I can do it, if you don't get to it first. | 04:14 |
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| TheMuso | Afternoon Hobbsee. | 04:24 |
| ajmitch | yay for people who refuse to file bugs | 04:25 |
| ajmitch | hello Hobbsee | 04:25 |
| Hobbsee | heya TheMuso! | 04:26 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 04:26 |
| Hobbsee | refuse to fix the bug, until they file a good one | 04:26 |
| Hobbsee | hiya ajmitch | 04:26 |
| ajmitch | this person has a history of going on irc, complaining about something, and not wanting to file a bug in launchpad | 04:26 |
| TheMuso | ajmitch: -kernel... i.e kano? | 04:27 |
| ajmitch | yep | 04:27 |
| ajmitch | certainly not the first time this has happened | 04:27 |
| TheMuso | Right. | 04:27 |
| TheMuso | You'd think he's have learnt by now. | 04:28 |
| === ScottK is enjoying #launchpad tonight and swears he didn't put anyone up to anything. | ||
| ajmitch | TheMuso: some people don't learn | 04:28 |
| TheMuso | heh | 04:28 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee can attest to that | 04:28 |
| === nixternal too | ||
| TheMuso | ajmitch: I'm actually starting to find that out through reviewing packages. | 04:28 |
| TheMuso | I have found myself thinking that people would learn from what we point out to them. | 04:28 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: oh, kano | 04:29 |
| TheMuso | WHich obviously doesn't happen as often as we'd like. | 04:29 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: another one of your friends | 04:29 |
| ScottK | Maybe we need a rule that no one can add a package until they've had a removal request fulfilled. | 04:29 |
| TheMuso | hehe | 04:29 |
| TheMuso | ScottK: Whaa? | 04:29 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: no, he's been in -devel repeatedly too | 04:29 |
| ScottK | Just thinking it's cut down on the cruft in the repos and deter people who don't know what they are doing/really want the package from giving us junk to review. | 04:30 |
| ScottK | it's/it'd | 04:30 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: I know :) | 04:30 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 04:30 |
| ajmitch | ScottK: sure, what should I remove to get some new stuff in? | 04:31 |
| Hobbsee | ScottK: then htey'd file removal requests on things like debian-installer or something. | 04:31 |
| ajmitch | nah, kde* | 04:31 |
| TheMuso | lol | 04:31 |
| === ScottK was thinking it didn't count until it was actually removed, so they'd need to find something real. | ||
| === ScottK is also, of course, kidding. | ||
| ScottK | mostly. | 04:32 |
| TheMuso | ScottK: I get your drift though. | 04:32 |
| ajmitch | 19:11 -!- Kano [n=kano@91.64.67.21] has joined #ubuntu-devel | 04:32 |
| ajmitch | 19:12 < Kano> hi, please update mc in feisty. it is broken badly! | 04:32 |
| ajmitch | 19:13 -!- Kano [n=kano@91.64.67.21] has quit [Remote closed the connection] | 04:32 |
| ajmitch | that's what I call a bugreport | 04:32 |
| TheMuso | Oh yeah! | 04:32 |
| === ScottK hadn't run into him before. No I know. | ||
| ScottK | No/Now | 04:33 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: he's the maintainer of kantonix, so he should know better. | 04:34 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: then again, i guess he just fixes bugs as he finds them | 04:34 |
| TheMuso | Hobbsee: ...and obviously doesn't use any form of bug tracker. | 04:34 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 04:35 |
| ajmitch | you mean, he has no idea of how team development is done? | 04:35 |
| === TheMuso continues to attempt to update packages on the manual universe merge list. | ||
| === ScottK continues to attempt to balance his checkbook. | ||
| ajmitch | bother, rc bugs list broken again | 04:37 |
| ajmitch | happens everytime there's a new libapt | 04:38 |
| TheMuso | Oh lovely. | 04:38 |
| TheMuso | Heh. Off he goes, without a sign of stating that any bugs will be filed. | 04:39 |
| TheMuso | And not likely to file any. | 04:39 |
| ajmitch | don't expect behaviour to change | 04:39 |
| TheMuso | Seems that way. | 04:40 |
| LucidFox | Who should I subscribe to a "move to multiverse" bug? | 04:50 |
| Hobbsee | LucidFox: ubuntu-archive | 04:53 |
| ryanakca | is it possible to sync from Debian Experimental, more importantly, http://packages.debian.org/experimental/web/egroupware | 05:05 |
| ScottK | Yes. It's possible. The question is, is it a good idea. | 05:05 |
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| ryanakca | hmm. *tries it in his gutsy schroot* | 05:06 |
| RAOF | StevenK: Actually, eclipse should probably be merged, not syncd, to fix the policy violation (which, in turn, prevents azureus from building right). | 05:07 |
| TheMuso | RAOF: Are you aware that specto is sitting in the manual merge list for universe? http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe-manual.html | 05:07 |
| ScottK | ryanakca: Also look at debian/changelog and see WHY it's in experimental. | 05:07 |
| RAOF | TheMuso: I am, I actually want to upload a 0.2.2-1 to Debian and sync that. | 05:07 |
| TheMuso | RAOF: SOunds like a good idea. | 05:08 |
| RAOF | Although if that takes too long I could just sync the current package now and sync 0.2.2 later. | 05:08 |
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| TheMuso | RAOF: Yep. Was just checking that you knew it was there. | 05:09 |
| ScottK | Or you could upload 0.2.2-0ubuntu1 and don't sweat it. | 05:10 |
| RAOF | It's a while until UVF. Debian->sync seems easier. | 05:12 |
| ScottK | Yep. Save direct upload to Ubuntu until the last moment if you need it. | 05:13 |
| StevenK | RAOF: If you want to merge eclipse, go ahead. I'm happy to upload it for you. | 05:13 |
| RAOF | StevenK: I'll try to get to it tonight. I'm cut off from any buildboxes for the moment. | 05:14 |
| StevenK | Hopefully, it isn't a new upstream release, given the orig tarball is 50Mb | 05:14 |
| RAOF | Nah, it's 3.2.2-1 to 3.2.2-2 | 05:15 |
| StevenK | RAOF: That's irreponsible. :-P | 05:15 |
| RAOF | StevenK: ? | 05:15 |
| StevenK | RAOF: Being cut off from your building machines. | 05:15 |
| RAOF | Aaah. | 05:16 |
| RAOF | Yes, I should roll back my server to Fiesty (which has a working acx111 driver) | 05:16 |
| StevenK | Surely the math department won't notice if you smuggle an amd64 in and hide it under a rug? | 05:17 |
| RAOF | I've got my laptop, but no network access. They hate m. | 05:17 |
| ajmitch | surely the people at work won't notice if I stick a gutsy chroot on a server? | 05:17 |
| StevenK | Heh | 05:17 |
| TheMuso | haha | 05:25 |
| ScottK | Unfortunately for me, "the people at work" is me, so I have to be responsible. | 05:29 |
| Hobbsee | then just dont tell yourself that you're doing it then. simple | 05:30 |
| RAOF | That's where multiple-personalities come in handy | 05:31 |
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| ajmitch | ScottK: sadly that's often the case here as well | 05:37 |
| === ScottK understands. | ||
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| === Hobbsee ponders going and voting | ||
| ScottK | More fun to play "as long as I don't get caught". | 05:38 |
| RAOF | Hobbsee: For what? | 05:38 |
| === ScottK wonders what for? | ||
| Hobbsee | motu uvf team | 05:38 |
| Hobbsee | dont you read the motu ML? | 05:38 |
| RAOF | Ah. | 05:38 |
| === StevenK voted last night | ||
| RAOF | The "going" somewhat confused me. | 05:39 |
| Hobbsee | RAOF: well, the webpage wont come to me :P | 05:40 |
| === RAOF thought that was the point of the internest | ||
| StevenK | Great. Now sear is part of *two* transitions. | 05:41 |
| StevenK | man-di: ^ | 05:41 |
| === RAOF hands StevenK a "Transition Master" shirt | ||
| StevenK | Heh | 05:42 |
| jmg | 'uvf' | 05:43 |
| jmg | ? | 05:43 |
| StevenK | Upstream Version Freeze | 05:43 |
| RAOF | The 18th(?) of next month. | 05:45 |
| StevenK | 16th | 05:46 |
| RAOF | Near enough | 05:47 |
| StevenK | Ewwwww! | 05:48 |
| StevenK | http://pastebin.ca/632745 | 05:48 |
| RAOF | StevenK: ????? | 05:49 |
| RAOF | What is that crack? | 05:49 |
| StevenK | I have no idea. But it looks like crack | 05:49 |
| Hobbsee | .... | 05:52 |
| StevenK | Thank $DEITY the rules file doesn't play around with it. | 05:52 |
| === TheMuso decides to vote before going out and doing a few things. | ||
| === ScottK went and got rid of some of the bitterness posting at a site where the CoC doesn't apply ;-) | ||
| === ScottK already voted. | ||
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| ScottK | Any motu hopeful want practice on a sync bug? | 06:09 |
| ajmitch | sure | 06:09 |
| ScottK | Heh. | 06:09 |
| === RAOF wonders what ajmitch is hopeful for | ||
| ScottK | pypolicyd-spf is a sync if anyone wants to do it. | 06:10 |
| === ScottK will get to it eventually. | ||
| ajmitch | hopefully finishing work sometime today, so I can go home | 06:10 |
| ScottK | Is "finishing" a function of clock ticks or something actually has to get done? | 06:10 |
| Hobbsee | ScottK: ajmitch doesnt do work. you should know this. | 06:11 |
| === ScottK just knows about Ubuntu, not "work". | ||
| === StevenK is multi-tasking. | ||
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: thanks | 06:13 |
| === StevenK is doing NBS stuff, and backporting asterisk | ||
| Toadstool | uh, almost forgot to vote | 06:13 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: no problem | 06:13 |
| === ajmitch is doing php | ||
| Toadstool | hi everybody | 06:13 |
| ajmitch | hello Toadstool | 06:13 |
| jmg | who can vote? | 06:14 |
| Toadstool | hi ajmitch | 06:14 |
| StevenK | ajmitch: My condolences. | 06:14 |
| Toadstool | jmg: MOTUs | 06:14 |
| jmg | ah | 06:14 |
| ajmitch | my vote doesn't count | 06:14 |
| RAOF | I should probably look at packaging the new Gnucash version, since I actually use it. | 06:14 |
| ScottK | Hobbsee: I see kdepim is up for a merge. I "touched it last" but am certainly not the best one to merge it... | 06:14 |
| Hobbsee | ScottK: right. | 06:15 |
| Hobbsee | ScottK: i'll have a look. and shove patches back to debian | 06:15 |
| === ScottK will do pinentry though. | ||
| Hobbsee | ScottK: oh blergle. that should be merged enough | 06:16 |
| ScottK | Hobbsee: It's a new upstream point release. Since we're going to be using it full time in Gutsy, it's probaby good to get all the bug fixing we can get. | 06:17 |
| === ScottK will look at it anyway. | ||
| Hobbsee | ScottK: okay, will look later. | 06:18 |
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| Hobbsee | ScottK: and will shove all our appropriate patches back, like i did for kdenetwork | 06:18 |
| Hobbsee | ScottK: you could always upgrade knetworkmanager.. | 06:19 |
| StevenK | Surely that depends how masochistic ScottK is feeling. | 06:20 |
| StevenK | depends on, even | 06:20 |
| === ScottK has working wireless just now in Gutsy and isn't inclined to mess with that. | ||
| Hobbsee | oh, bloody kmos | 06:21 |
| ScottK | What, his removal bugs? | 06:21 |
| Hobbsee | oh, he's filed them too has he? | 06:22 |
| Hobbsee | no, he's been closing kopete bugs without checking if they still apply. | 06:22 |
| Hobbsee | because no one responded in a few weeks | 06:22 |
| StevenK | Wah. | 06:23 |
| ajmitch | as you do... | 06:23 |
| Toadstool | that's an easy way to close bugs, I like it | 06:23 |
| RAOF | When's that auto-expire LP feature meant to hit, again?L | 06:23 |
| ajmitch | we should expire all bugs older than 2 hours | 06:23 |
| Toadstool | auto-expire?! | 06:23 |
| Fujitsu | 1.1.8, AFAIK. | 06:23 |
| RAOF | So in a month or so. Cool. | 06:24 |
| Fujitsu | About then. | 06:24 |
| ajmitch | Toadstool: when a bug is incomplete | 06:24 |
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| Toadstool | oh ok, doesn't sound any better to me but whatever | 06:24 |
| RAOF | Which will pretty much halve the number of bugs on my bugpage :) | 06:24 |
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| Hobbsee | kopete has one or 2 developers -a nd not much time | 06:25 |
| Hobbsee | geser: why'd you ack balazar, btw? | 06:25 |
| ajmitch | Toadstool: if someone doesn't respond to a bug for 6 months after someone has asked them for further info, auto-expiry can help | 06:26 |
| Hobbsee | kmos, if a MOTU or a core dev has filed a sync request bug, then you *probably* dont need to bother touching it. | 06:26 |
| Hobbsee | seeing as they tend to know more than you do, and so have already done all the steps required. | 06:27 |
| Hobbsee | grrr. | 06:27 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee: What's he done now? | 06:27 |
| StevenK | RAOF: Here's Fujitsu, get him! | 06:27 |
| Fujitsu | Arrrgh. | 06:27 |
| === Fujitsu runs. | ||
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/balazar/+bug/124744 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/46657 | 06:27 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 46657 in kdenetwork "Kopete gives error when you're on your own contact list" [Medium,Confirmed] | 06:27 |
| Toadstool | ajmitch: if the expiration delay is this big, yeah, it makes sense | 06:27 |
| StevenK | Oh good one, geser. If Hobbsee filed the sync request, you don't need to ack it. | 06:28 |
| === RAOF sends the ghosts of azureus and eclipse after the retreating back of Fujitsu. | ||
| Fujitsu | Nooo. | 06:29 |
| Fujitsu | I never even touched eclipse :( | 06:29 |
| === TheMuso returns | ||
| Fujitsu | What are everyone's thoughts about reasonable timeouts for bugs? | 06:35 |
| RAOF | 2 months seems reasonable to me | 06:36 |
| === Hobbsee --> out | ||
| ajmitch | 2 hours | 06:36 |
| RAOF | LP as IRC bugtracker :) | 06:37 |
| Fujitsu | I generally use about 3 months, I think. | 06:37 |
| StevenK | Besides, even if the sync doesn't meet Build-Depends, it will DEPWAIT and not fail. | 06:38 |
| Fujitsu | I love Kmos' responses to bug #127348 | 06:39 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 127348 in launchpad "Bug comment form not expandable in Firefox 1.0.8" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127348 | 06:39 |
| RAOF | Eeep. | 06:40 |
| ajmitch | oh dear | 06:40 |
| ajmitch | that's just nuts | 06:41 |
| TheMuso | WHo is Kmos? | 06:42 |
| Fujitsu | Marco Rodrigues (gothicx) | 06:42 |
| ajmitch | someone being overly helpful on bugs, by the look of things | 06:43 |
| ScottK | AKA the guy that tried to merge the motumedia and ubuntu-motu teams in LP. | 06:43 |
| TheMuso | ah. I wish people would use the same nick on LP and IRC> | 06:43 |
| Fujitsu | Nah, thta'd be too easy. | 06:44 |
| Fujitsu | ScottK: Was that him? I forget. | 06:44 |
| ScottK | Yeah. | 06:44 |
| TheMuso | Interesting comments indeed. | 06:44 |
| ScottK | RAOF: Maybe he'd want to merge azureus. That would keep him busy for a while. | 06:46 |
| === Fujitsu likes bug #126516 | ||
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 126516 in malone "would like limited access control for status field changes" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/126516 | 06:46 |
| StevenK | ScottK: Argh! | 06:47 |
| === Fujitsu wouldn't complain | ||
| TheMuso | That is an interesting bug. | 06:48 |
| TheMuso | I'd be enclined to agree myself. | 06:49 |
| === ajmitch thinks it is necessary | ||
| Fujitsu | It does seem really stupid to allow anybody to make a bug completely vanish, but restrict them from just sending it up or down the listings a bit. | 06:50 |
| ScottK | I thought Won't Fix and Invalid were already controlled. | 06:50 |
| Fujitsu | Won't Fix and Triaged are. | 06:50 |
| ScottK | Then the bug is at least partially incorrect as written. | 06:51 |
| Fujitsu | Slightly. | 06:51 |
| ScottK | If more bug statuses get restricted we're going to need a must be confirmed team for motu-hopefuls/helpers that can set the status (and no -qa isn't that team IMO). | 06:52 |
| === ajmitch liked the suggestion of every bug starting off as a support request, and being elevated to a bug after someone in -qa looked at it | ||
| RAOF | That doesn't really sound too bad. | 06:53 |
| ajmitch | of course privileged people could still file bugs directly | 06:53 |
| ajmitch | but a lot of bugs are just support requests | 06:53 |
| RAOF | And apport, presumably | 06:53 |
| ajmitch | sure | 06:53 |
| ajmitch | I guess ;) | 06:53 |
| RAOF | The crashlogs certainly :) | 06:54 |
| RAOF | And yes, a fair proportion of the non-crashes do seem to be support requests, or user error. | 06:54 |
| ajmitch | most users can't tell whether it's something they just need help with, or a real problem | 06:55 |
| Toadstool | we should get rid of users :) | 06:55 |
| RAOF | Crashes are (almost) always real problems. But I agree. | 06:55 |
| ScottK | We can just keep ignoring them. It amounts to the same thing. | 06:56 |
| ajmitch | </bitter> | 06:56 |
| === ScottK is old enough to have earned bitter. | ||
| RAOF | Mmmm, bitters | 06:57 |
| ajmitch | ScottK: of course you are, you're from debian | 06:57 |
| ajmitch | well | 06:57 |
| ScottK | No, actually I'm not. | 06:57 |
| ScottK | (from Debian). | 06:57 |
| ajmitch | we've picked up enough of that from debian lately :) | 06:58 |
| ScottK | I actually came here from opensuse. | 06:58 |
| Toadstool | ajmitch: the closer to Debian, the bitter? is this what you mean? | 06:58 |
| ajmitch | Toadstool: yep | 06:58 |
| StevenK | ScottK: Twitch | 06:58 |
| Fujitsu | ScottK: Even after Mark's ill-fated mailing list post? | 06:58 |
| ajmitch | StevenK: heh | 06:58 |
| ScottK | No, before. | 06:59 |
| StevenK | Hah. I'd forgotten about that. | 06:59 |
| ajmitch | Fujitsu: the "novell sucks, time to bail out, guys!" mail? | 06:59 |
| Fujitsu | That's the one. | 06:59 |
| ScottK | I had brief relationship with them in which I got a very shiny and useable opensuse 10.1 KDE desktop. | 06:59 |
| ScottK | Only one little problem. | 06:59 |
| ScottK | No way to update it. | 07:00 |
| Fujitsu | It's OpenSUSE? | 07:00 |
| TheMuso | ScottK: Oh lovely. | 07:00 |
| ScottK | Is it? I thought they changed it to opensuse. | 07:00 |
| RAOF | Ooops, I think I know why eclips FTBFS: debian/control wasn't regenerated for Ubuntu. | 07:00 |
| Fujitsu | I'm not sure of the capitalisation, but I was pointing out that that was a problem. | 07:00 |
| ScottK | Yeah. They completely switched to a brand new update system that was added (and the old one removed) after the last public test release. | 07:00 |
| Fujitsu | RAOF: That's not a valid excuse for not building. | 07:01 |
| ScottK | It didn't go well. | 07:01 |
| Fujitsu | Why should it need regenerating? | 07:01 |
| RAOF | Fujitsu: Why not? The build-deps are wrong until the control file is regend | 07:01 |
| Fujitsu | Sounds special. | 07:01 |
| RAOF | Fujitsu: Because eclipse is on serious crack | 07:01 |
| Fujitsu | Anyway, I have to go now. | 07:01 |
| === TheMuso shakes his head. Not another control generation package. | ||
| ajmitch | RAOF: but eclipse is java & shiny & wonderful | 07:02 |
| ScottK | Then they basically said "What did you expect". You all are just beta testers for SLES anyway. You don't expect it to work do you? (I paraphrase). | 07:02 |
| Fujitsu | Impressive. | 07:02 |
| TheMuso | ScottK: eeeeew | 07:02 |
| === Fujitsu -> elsewhere. | ||
| jmg | heh | 07:02 |
| RAOF | ajmitch: Yes, java is what all the cool kids are doing behind the bikeshed (which should be green, by the way) | 07:02 |
| ajmitch | RAOF: sorry, we prefer brown around here | 07:03 |
| ScottK | Yeah. My list of must haves for a Linux distro is now: 1. Product I use must be the actual product of the organization making the distro. 2. Must use Debian package management system. 3. Must have KDE. 4. Must have a decent server version. | 07:03 |
| ScottK | Thus I'm here. | 07:03 |
| ajmitch | ubuntu has a decent server version? | 07:03 |
| ScottK | Recently I've added no patent crack from MS to my list. | 07:03 |
| RAOF | ajmitch: I'll fight you to the death about it's green-ness | 07:03 |
| ScottK | ajmitch: For my purposes yes. | 07:04 |
| ajmitch | ScottK: problem is that different people have different requirements for a server distro, and ubuntu hasn't really fulfilled all that so far | 07:04 |
| ScottK | Agreed. | 07:04 |
| ajmitch | it'd be fine for me (except I use debian) :) | 07:04 |
| ScottK | All the piece parts are there for a great mail server, but you do have to know how to turn the knobs. | 07:05 |
| TheMuso | Ubuntu will be fine when I get my server built | 07:05 |
| === ajmitch is just using a classic LAMP setup at work | ||
| ScottK | Oh. That reminds me... At the time I needed Postfix 2.2 or later. | 07:07 |
| ScottK | That narrowed the field some more. | 07:07 |
| ajmitch | etch is adequate here | 07:07 |
| ScottK | Etch would meet my server needs, but it wasn't released a year ago. | 07:08 |
| === ajmitch was using sarge, with some backports | ||
| ajmitch | and also centos, which is gone now, thankfully | 07:09 |
| ScottK | My first operational mail server was Sarge, but Postfix 2.1 didn't have all the knobs I needed. | 07:09 |
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| StevenK | Heh, my mail server is currently Etch with Exim 4.6 | 07:20 |
| === StevenK wants Exim to go away. | ||
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| ajmitch | why do you dislike exim? | 07:23 |
| StevenK | Because the Debian maintainer is an arrogant asshole | 07:23 |
| ajmitch | ah | 07:23 |
| StevenK | He seems to have no qualms about breaking stuff, and I've also come to the conclusion that the way Exim queues mail is sub-optimal | 07:24 |
| ScottK | StevenK: Have you ever considered switching to Postfix. | 07:26 |
| StevenK | ScottK: The new mail servers at $WORK are Postfix | 07:27 |
| ScottK | Ah. Excellent. | 07:29 |
| ScottK | I think it's time to go to bed. | 07:30 |
| ScottK | Good night all. | 07:30 |
| StevenK | 'Night | 07:30 |
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| WorkingGeier | hi | 07:53 |
| WorkingGeier | I'm trying to use dpatch-edit-patch inside the gcc package | 07:54 |
| WorkingGeier | the directory being patched is not the toplevel | 07:54 |
| WorkingGeier | dpatch-edit-patch: Error: "src" is not the toplevel directory of a Debian package, aborting. | 07:54 |
| WorkingGeier | how can I tell dpatch that I'd like to work within that directory | 07:55 |
| WorkingGeier | ? | 07:55 |
| TheMuso | WorkingGeier: You have to run dpatch-edit-patch from the top directory of the package. | 07:57 |
| WorkingGeier | yes | 07:57 |
| WorkingGeier | I'm doing that, and passing the subdirectory with the sources as -s src | 07:57 |
| TheMuso | WorkingGeier: Have you read the dpatch-edit-patch manpage? | 07:58 |
| WorkingGeier | yes | 07:58 |
| WorkingGeier | there seems to be an additional complication | 07:58 |
| WorkingGeier | gcc-4.2 does not have a 00list file | 07:58 |
| WorkingGeier | instead, a debian/rules fragment builds the list dynamically | 07:58 |
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| TheMuso | WorkingGeier: Well you would know that when you run dpatch-edit-patch, you will be placed at the shell in a temporary directory. You then edit the files you want patched, and then exit the shell. | 07:59 |
| WorkingGeier | yes | 07:59 |
| WorkingGeier | I've already used dpatch-edit-patch in the past, although it has been such a long time that I forgot the name of the tool | 07:59 |
| WorkingGeier | I need to edit an existing patch | 08:00 |
| TheMuso | Well I don't quite understand your problem then. | 08:00 |
| TheMuso | Well you simply run dpatch-edit-patch with the name of the patch as an argument, minus the .dpatch extension. | 08:00 |
| WorkingGeier | two problems | 08:00 |
| WorkingGeier | the source is not in the toplevel | 08:00 |
| TheMuso | That does not matter. | 08:00 |
| WorkingGeier | but rather in the src/ subdirectory | 08:00 |
| TheMuso | Doesn't matter where. You still run dpatch-edit-patch from the top level, and pass it the name of a new patch you want to create, or an existing patch you want to edit. | 08:01 |
| WorkingGeier | and applying patch gcc-ssp-default to ./ ... failed. | 08:02 |
| TheMuso | Well you will likely have to edit that patch | 08:02 |
| WorkingGeier | well | 08:03 |
| WorkingGeier | the patch failed because the source is not where dpatch expected it | 08:03 |
| TheMuso | Well the patch wsan't made properly. | 08:03 |
| TheMuso | wasn't even | 08:03 |
| WorkingGeier | the biggest problem seems to be the absence of 00list | 08:04 |
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| TheMuso | Right. | 08:05 |
| TheMuso | What package are you working on? | 08:05 |
| WorkingGeier | and the fact that dpatch calls the clean target, which deletes the src directory | 08:05 |
| WorkingGeier | gcc-4.2 | 08:05 |
| TheMuso | Ummmm. Ok. Do you have a particular reason for working on it? | 08:06 |
| WorkingGeier | gcc-ssp-default.dpatch is wrong and breaks the build | 08:06 |
| WorkingGeier | and the workarounds are even worse | 08:06 |
| TheMuso | If this is for gutsy, you might want to talk to those who maintain GCC in ubuntu. | 08:07 |
| TheMuso | And discuss it with them. | 08:07 |
| WorkingGeier | sure | 08:07 |
| StevenK | Same person who maintains it in Debian, actually. | 08:07 |
| WorkingGeier | yes, I talked to him yesterday; he didn't seem to understand why it was broken | 08:07 |
| WorkingGeier | it sets -fstack-protector in the compiler stage by default, but the linker does not get -lssp by default | 08:09 |
| WorkingGeier | which makes stage 2 of the bootstrap fail with missing symbols | 08:10 |
| WorkingGeier | the workaround was to pass -fno-stack-protector during bootstrap | 08:10 |
| WorkingGeier | hmm | 08:11 |
| WorkingGeier | dpatch-edit-patch insists on cleaning out the directory | 08:11 |
| WorkingGeier | deleting the source | 08:12 |
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| Toadstool | WorkingGeier: why do you wanna use dpatch-edit-patch with gcc? it doesn't use dpatch but a dpatch-like over-complicated custom patch system afaik | 08:31 |
| WorkingGeier | yep | 08:31 |
| WorkingGeier | the question is how I would edit a patch otherwise | 08:32 |
| WorkingGeier | by hand? | 08:32 |
| Toadstool | I guess so | 08:32 |
| Toadstool | did you ask doko already? | 08:33 |
| WorkingGeier | last time I spoke to him (yesterday) he didn't seem to have time | 08:33 |
| WorkingGeier | and I hadn't dived into the code enough to see where the problem was | 08:34 |
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| Toadstool | WorkingGeier: well, I ain't no gcc packaging expert but I don't think dpatch-edit-patch is gonna be of any help here, given that there's no 00list or anything similar available or even generated | 08:36 |
| WorkingGeier | indeed | 08:37 |
| Toadstool | off to bed, it's getting late over here, good luck | 08:37 |
| === WorkingGeier tries building with his patch | ||
| WorkingGeier | thanks | 08:37 |
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| man-di | StevenK: sear is a mess... | 08:59 |
| WorkingGeier | hmm | 09:00 |
| WorkingGeier | it seems gcc does not want to be built with SSP | 09:00 |
| StevenK | man-di: Heh. Great ... | 09:00 |
| man-di | StevenK: which transitions do you mean by (*two*) | 09:01 |
| StevenK | man-di: libatlas and cal3d | 09:01 |
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| man-di | StevenK: just update them to newest | 09:02 |
| StevenK | man-di: Do a rebuild of it? | 09:02 |
| man-di | StevenK: I hope to get a patch for sear and guichan soon | 09:02 |
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| man-di | StevenK: for sear 0.6.3 | 09:02 |
| man-di | StevenK: do you mean in debian or ubuntu? | 09:03 |
| StevenK | You can't just upload it to Debian? :-) | 09:03 |
| StevenK | Ubuntu | 09:03 |
| man-di | StevenK: no, because it doesnt build | 09:03 |
| StevenK | 0.6.3 doesn't? Neat. | 09:04 |
| man-di | StevenK: 0.6.1 (current debian unstable) doesnt build with eris in unstable and 0.6.3 (new upstream) doesnt build with current guichan | 09:04 |
| man-di | I bet 0.6.1 doenst build with current guichan either | 09:04 |
| man-di | it depends on guichan 0.5.0 | 09:04 |
| man-di | and there were major api changes in guichan 0.5.0 -> 0.6.0 | 09:05 |
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| man-di | there is already guichan 0.7.0 coming soon | 09:05 |
| man-di | I sponsor the maintainer and I said to him if you want to get it in, send me patch that makes it work with sear too | 09:06 |
| man-di | (just in case upstream is not faster) | 09:06 |
| man-di | StevenK: I think I have described the mess now a bit | 09:06 |
| jussi01 | good morning. how do I check if a package is already in debian? | 09:07 |
| WorkingGeier | jussi01, packages.debian.org | 09:08 |
| man-di | jussi01: packages.debian.org | 09:08 |
| jussi01 | ok, thanks WorkingGeier, man-di | 09:08 |
| man-di | jussi01: but beware, packages.debian.org is normally some hours/days behind reality | 09:12 |
| StevenK | ... days, weeks ... | 09:13 |
| jussi01 | hmmm, this is weird. I am looking at packaging a program. I cant find it on debian, ubuntu or revu. however, the upstream tarball has already got a debian directory... | 09:13 |
| Hobbsee | jussi01: some upstreams do their own debian/ | 09:13 |
| man-di | jussi01: some upstreams do this | 09:14 |
| jussi01 | ok, so what do I do with this? what is the proceedure?? | 09:14 |
| man-di | jussi01: but its IMO a bad decision to include debian/ dir upstream | 09:14 |
| jussi01 | bug 128068 | 09:14 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 128068 in Ubuntu "Xjadeo" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128068 | 09:14 |
| === jussi01 is quite confused | ||
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| jussi01 | btw, has anyone seen persia/know why he hasnt ben around? | 09:16 |
| WorkingGeier | jussi01, stuff like that happens often | 09:16 |
| Hobbsee | jussi01: i think he got caught up in $realwork | 09:16 |
| WorkingGeier | jussi01, it makes the .diff.gz hard to read | 09:16 |
| LucidFox | something has happened to packages.ubuntu.com | 09:16 |
| LucidFox | It gives an "Unable to connect" error when searching packages | 09:17 |
| WorkingGeier | jussi01, just add $(RM) commands for all the files you don't need out of upstream's debian/ dir, and modify the read | 09:17 |
| WorkingGeier | *rest | 09:17 |
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| soren | Wow... mailman seems to be in a good mood today. | 09:30 |
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| ajmitch | hello soren | 09:32 |
| soren | 30 seconds from my e-mail to ubuntu-motu hit my mail server, got sent to the Ubuntu mail server, went through mailman, and landed back in my inbox. O.O | 09:33 |
| soren | ajmitch: Good morning, Andrew. | 09:33 |
| ajmitch | wow | 09:33 |
| Burgundavia | hey soren | 09:33 |
| \sh | 30 seconds is too much ,-) | 09:33 |
| soren | Burgundavia: 'Morning, Corey. | 09:33 |
| ajmitch | Burgundavia: been enjoying your little trip? | 09:33 |
| Burgundavia | oh indeed | 09:33 |
| soren | Burgundavia: You don't look too happy on that photo :) | 09:34 |
| Burgundavia | I am happy | 09:34 |
| Burgundavia | just "concentrating" | 09:34 |
| soren | Oh. :) | 09:34 |
| Burgundavia | like I said, I was working hard | 09:35 |
| soren | True, true. | 09:35 |
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| RAOF | Building Eclipse should not take 2Gb of ram | 10:14 |
| StevenK | Hah | 10:19 |
| StevenK | There's one package I tried to build here, and g++ was taking up 1.3Gb of RAM and did nothing for 2.5 hours | 10:20 |
| TheMuso | lovely | 10:21 |
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| RAOF | So, building eclipse very nearly exhausts 2GB of ram + 1.5Gbb of swap. Java is sooooo awesome | 10:27 |
| StevenK | Hah | 10:28 |
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| guardian | hmm hello, what's the command line to apply a patch to an original package ? on packages.ubuntu.com i can download .orig.tar.gz and .diff.gz | 10:50 |
| guardian | i've never done that | 10:50 |
| guardian | should it uncompress them first ? | 10:50 |
| guardian | /s/it/i | 10:50 |
| asisak | guardian: dpkg-source -x .dsc | 10:51 |
| asisak | guardian: or you simply "dget proto://pa/th/filename_version.dsc" | 10:51 |
| guardian | cool thx | 10:51 |
| guardian | hmm strange, i can't connect to http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/allpackages | 10:52 |
| asisak | guardian: try to get the package via apt-get source or get it as well as you got .orig.tar.gz and .diff.gz | 10:54 |
| man-di | asisak, guardian: dget -x .... | 10:54 |
| man-di | guardian: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ is down, it seems | 10:55 |
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| guardian | so dget -x http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/section/package.dsc ? | 11:00 |
| guardian | once packages.ubuntu.com is up off course | 11:00 |
| guardian | or course | 11:01 |
| asisak | guardian: you can use any of the mirrors inbetween | 11:02 |
| asisak | (any = any that has the necessary file) | 11:02 |
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| guardian | asisak: where could i have the mirror list of packages.ubuntu.com please ? | 11:13 |
| asisak | I would use a sources.list entry and apt-get source instead | 11:13 |
| guardian | you mean mirrors like fr.archive.ubuntu.com ? | 11:13 |
| guardian | k | 11:13 |
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| asac | hi! anyone geeky enough to run gutsy + compiz? | 11:18 |
| geser | asac: yes | 11:18 |
| asac | geser: do you see firefox bug | 11:18 |
| \sh | is it already working with ati cards and xinerama? | 11:19 |
| asac | geser: aka not-properly repainted during minimize/maximize? | 11:19 |
| asac | geser: i think during resize of main window it should happen too ... but not sure | 11:20 |
| guardian | do you recommend to make the full package description 80 columns wide ? | 11:20 |
| geser | asac: I see no problem with firefox | 11:21 |
| asac | guardian: wasn't that 70 columns? | 11:21 |
| asac | geser: wait a second i'll try to find the bug | 11:21 |
| guardian | i don't know, maintainer guide says 60 columns for the short dfescription | 11:21 |
| guardian | but says nothing for the long description | 11:21 |
| asac | geser: its bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/113086 | 11:22 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 113086 in firefox "Enabling Desktop Effects, some part of firefox and thunderbird windows are black for few seconds when I deminimize them." [Medium,Confirmed] | 11:22 |
| asac | geser: can you look if you see that | 11:22 |
| asac | ? | 11:22 |
| asac | guardian: try to use long lines and run lintian/linda ... iirc it complains if they are too long | 11:23 |
| asac | ... and says you what maximum columns it expects | 11:23 |
| guardian | asac: do you use 70 ? | 11:23 |
| asac | yes ... but that might be wrong :) | 11:24 |
| asac | its been a long time when i adapted that habit ... might have changed ... might have never been right ;) | 11:24 |
| geser | asac: I see no such problem | 11:26 |
| asac | geser: can you try thunderbird? | 11:26 |
| asac | according to summary it should be more visible there | 11:26 |
| asac | geser: what kind of effects are enabled? | 11:26 |
| asac | do you have minimize/maximize effects? | 11:26 |
| geser | I haven't thunderbird installed | 11:28 |
| geser | I've animations enabled (and set zoom for minimize) | 11:29 |
| geser | I'll try the minimize effect plugin | 11:30 |
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| asac | geser: thanks | 11:31 |
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| asac | geser: should be reproducible ... e.g. makes sense according to compiz devs | 11:31 |
| geser | no difference with the minimize effect plugin | 11:31 |
| asac | i think the bug is for a short period after unminimizing | 11:32 |
| asac | do you have any animations during unminimizing? | 11:32 |
| asac | or maybe if you minimize a normal sized window ... and then maximize directly (e.g. with right click on the task-bar -> Maximize)? | 11:33 |
| geser | still nothing | 11:34 |
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| asac | damn | 11:36 |
| geser | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31218/ that's the compiz packages I've installed | 11:37 |
| geser | I've a ATI Radeon 9800pro and I'm using the free radeon driver | 11:38 |
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| LucidFox | how do I replace the install prefix for CMake? | 11:39 |
| geser | I use also compiz on my notebook with Intel 915 graphics and don't remember seeing problems in firefox | 11:40 |
| DarkSun88 | Hi all | 11:40 |
| asac | geser: hmmm thanks for testing | 11:40 |
| asac | geser: have you tried thunderbird? can you do so please? | 11:45 |
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| geser | asac: can't reproduce it with thunderbird either | 11:55 |
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| asac | geser: ok thanks | 12:11 |
| NeilW | Morning all. Anybody available yet to look at a REVU package? | 12:12 |
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| Hobbsee | smc (0.99.6-2ubuntu1) gutsy; urgency=low | 04:44 |
| Hobbsee | * Rebuild for libcegui-mk2-0c2a -> libcegui-mk2-1 transition. | 04:44 |
| Hobbsee | * Remove libcegui-mk2-dev from the Depends. | 04:44 |
| Hobbsee | * Munge Maintainer field as per spec. | 04:44 |
| Hobbsee | -- Steve Kowalik <stevenk@ubuntu.com> Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:32:38 +1000 | 04:44 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: why the removal? | 04:44 |
| StevenK | I think the -dev was libcegui-mk2-1-dev | 04:46 |
| Hobbsee | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/smc/+bug/118308 | 04:46 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 118308 in smc "missing dependency for smc" [Medium,Fix released] | 04:46 |
| StevenK | I think it was done so I could upload a fixed libcegui-mk2 and everything else at the same time and have everything hit DEPWAIT rather than failing to build. | 04:46 |
| Hobbsee | ...right | 04:47 |
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| StevenK | Actually, sorry, I misunderstood. | 04:48 |
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| StevenK | It removed it because I thought I was being clever. | 04:48 |
| StevenK | It turns out from that bug, smc uses dlopen(). The bastards. | 04:48 |
| Hobbsee | asisak: that openbox change - why not get all the patches accepted in debian? | 04:49 |
| guardian_ | geser: because data files are different for en_GB and en_US and i'm about to create data packages for my application | 04:53 |
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| LucidFox | how do I "properly" create a transitional package? | 05:03 |
| soren | Carefully | 05:03 |
| LucidFox | if I just add a package with an empty .install file whose sole dependency is some other package, it still contains a usr/share/doc directory | 05:04 |
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| soren | LucidFox: They always do. | 05:10 |
| geser | guardian_: can't it be detected at runtime? | 05:14 |
| guardian_ | no unfortunately not | 05:21 |
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| geser | guardian_: what about multi-user system where one user prefers en_GB and other en_US? does the programm work for both? | 05:42 |
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| guardian_ | yes | 05:42 |
| guardian_ | anyway, i named my package foo-data-en-gb and foo-data-en-us | 05:43 |
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| geser | looks sane | 05:44 |
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| LucidFox | What is "not-binnmuable-any-depends-all"? | 05:51 |
| AndyP | LucidFox: http://lintian.debian.org/reports/Tnot-binnmuable-any-depends-all.html | 05:52 |
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