=== ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Merge! http://merges.ubuntu.com | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Riddell at Wed Jul 25 16:02:30 2007 === hunger_t_ [n=tobias@p54A73F3D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel === crimsun [n=crimsun@dargo.trilug.org] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:46] Riddell: bug 128443 [05:46] Launchpad bug 128443 in ksniffer "Please update ksniffer to 0.3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128443 [05:49] Riddell: umm. nevermind. === apachelogger [n=me@N818P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === cmvo [n=cmvo@ex4.73a.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-144-163.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bdmurray [n=bdmurray@mylar.outflux.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === stdin [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p54955DA4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-150-228.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=me@N818P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger_ [n=me@N930P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger_ is now known as apachelogger [09:33] !seen marseillai [09:33] Sorry, I don't know anything about seen marseillai - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi === superstoned [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:38] raphink: /msg seenserv seen marseillai === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-90156.0x5734b54a.naenxx14.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:38] /msg seenserv seen marseillai === superstoned [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:38] oops ;) [09:38] hi Hobbsee [09:38] <_StefanS_> morning [09:39] <_StefanS_> hmm is there a way to control the number of steps the new volume up/down uses? === apachelogger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@194.3.40.161] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:03] Riddell: doing knetworkmanager now [10:35] Riddell: ping ? === hunger_t_ [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t_ is now known as hunger === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@mue-88-130-73-146.dsl.tropolys.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:49] allee: ping ? [10:55] Tonio_: hi!!! === apachelogger [n=me@N930P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:59] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: hey [10:59] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: didn't see you last night.. [11:01] _StefanS_: yeah I had a car issue, so couldn't connect [11:01] _StefanS_: I'll be there tomorrow all the day.... [11:02] _StefanS_: lots of problems nowadays [11:02] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: ah good, cause I decided to watch a movie.. [11:02] allee: got my response btw :) [11:02] allee: any news concerning kdebluetooth ? [11:02] _StefanS_: hehe :) [11:03] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: number 23.. nice one. [11:04] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: got a fullscreen fade almost done btw.. [11:08] _StefanS_: super :) [11:08] _StefanS_: we'll test everything next week probably [11:08] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: yea, good idea [11:08] _StefanS_: I'll have a bunch of 2 weeks full time available for kubuntu [11:09] _StefanS_: I'll just remove your patch tomorrow morning from kdelibs [11:09] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: sweet, lets hope my wife doesn't give birth the next two weeks :D [11:09] _StefanS_: and w goody [11:09] _StefanS_: woohoo [11:09] _StefanS_: didn't knew about that, super ! [11:09] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: yep, its number two .. we've got one 11 months old already :) [11:10] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: have a girl, now getting a boy. [11:10] hehe, great :) [11:10] <_StefanS_> yes, alot of work, but I love kids :) [11:10] _StefanS_: congrats. [11:10] <_StefanS_> allee: thanks :) [11:11] _StefanS_: well we have time to get the effect to work [11:11] _StefanS_: the important thing is that we'll have kdesudo soon by default :) [11:11] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: but I'm sure we can fit it all in anyways.. I can always sleep when I get old :) [11:11] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: indeed. Kdesudo is much better than kdesu.. === _StefanS_ is almost 30 [11:12] Tonio_: No, nothing new about kbluetooth. Last time I checked (~ 3 weeks ago) commit msgs indicate that quite some bugs got fixed. I've pinged upstream now if there are plans for a beta4 [11:12] _StefanS_: don't mind we'll do it, it's jsut a matter of time :) === apachelogger [n=me@N930P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:12] allee: oki :) [11:12] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: when it that new feature deadline for gutsy? (cant remember) [11:12] allee: current state is to me too buggy for default inclusion, but really promissing [11:13] _StefanS_: lemme check [11:13] Tonio_: agreed. [11:13] <_StefanS_> does anyone know if kbiff or similar is making it into kde4? [11:13] _StefanS_: August 16th [11:13] <_StefanS_> alright, still some time then. [11:14] _StefanS_: as this is eye candy, I suspect there is no way to get an exception for this :) [11:14] Tonio_: I'm 'renovating' my flat currently. So in the last weeks I had 0 free time to follow any of my open source interests [11:14] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: right... hardly a must have feature :) [11:14] still some weeks of work [11:14] allee: same for me due to crazy schedule at work [11:14] Tonio_: heh, I didn't even notice that :) [11:14] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I'm just mimic'ing the gnome fade for gtksu btw. [11:15] Tonio_: approaching a deadline at work? [11:16] allee: that seems to be the common state in fact [11:16] perpetual deadline :) [11:16] _StefanS_: yeah the gnome effect would be nice I agree [11:17] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: more like... "we're not shutting down" .. the curtain effect doesn't really suit a password dialog :) [11:18] _StefanS_: hehe [11:27] :) [11:37] Tonio_: [11:35] allee: we already tagged beta4 ... but we have to contact RockMan to post the annoucnment [11:37] Tonio_: [11:36] http://cryptomilch.de/~dgollub/kdebluetooth/ [11:40] allee: super [11:41] Tonio_: it's not annouced so maaaaaybe be a last minute change to the tarball, so better no official upload before it's announced [11:42] sure [11:42] Tonio_: I can give it a try this weekend, if you have no time befire [11:42] before that is [11:42] allee: I may have some time [11:42] Tonio_: you make my family happy :) === marseillai [n=mars@ubuntu/member/marseillai] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:08] Tonio_: doing what to knetworkmanager? === never|mobi [n=neversfe@mue-88-130-85-183.dsl.tropolys.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@v213-022.vps.tuwien.ac.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-90156.0x5734b54a.naenxx14.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@p54974CFD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rouzic [n=rouzic@212.145.63.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@mue-88-130-88-212.dsl.tropolys.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@mue-88-130-88-212.dsl.tropolys.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:32] Riddell: merging with debian === apachelogger [n=me@N930P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rbrunhuber_ [n=rbrunhub@p549751F2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:27] w00t! I complained to Dell about the long wait time for my new Ubuntu Dell, and they gave me free next-day shipping :) === ScottK [n=ScottK@ubuntu/member/scottk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:31] yay [01:33] Riddell: Do you know what's going on with the OpenOffice issue in Gutsy? [01:35] Riddell: Although it is getting me to use koffice more than I had been :) [01:35] Finding some very strange issues in kspread. [01:35] no idea [01:35] kspread forgets to update cells quite a lot [01:35] Riddell: Do you have any idea what issue I'm talking about? [01:35] nope [01:36] kspread also has serious display issues when you switch pages and delete and insert rows alot. [01:36] Riddell: With OOo right now, if I start one of the programs, say oocalc, I get a splash screen and then soffice.bin maxes CPU. [01:37] so people are saying [01:37] it's not making me want to do a dist upgrade for sure :) [01:37] Well, for my needs, koffice is working fine. [01:37] And it's actually magnitudes faster than OOo. [01:37] It's got me reconsidering my own usage patterns :) [01:38] koffice is lightning fast, and it only has odd issues, no major data loss or crashing. [01:38] Whereas OOo has no weird issues, but is slow as can be. [01:39] Riddell: So are you from a rather small town in Scottland? [01:40] I have no idea the geography of Scottland, and the not-so-distant move has me curious about other areas of the world once again :) [01:40] I'm from the capital [01:40] which is the second largest city (and obviously the most classy) [01:41] it's spelt Scotland [01:41] Ah. You're right. Sorry [01:41] :) [01:41] What's the population? [01:42] Urban? Rural? [01:42] 448,624 [01:42] Ah. [01:42] of Edinburgh, being a city it's urban [01:43] The place I'm moving to has about 6,000 folks living there. [01:43] although I'm having a very difficult time finding actual estimates. [01:43] just so long as the internet connection is fast.. [01:43] 15mbps :) [01:43] don't US towns have their population on the sign as you enter them? [01:43] 5mbps faster than it currently is. [01:43] Some of them do. [01:43] And those signs tend to be dated quickly for smaller populations. [01:44] there was me thinking someone made a new sign each time a baby was born :) [01:44] When you enter Chicago, the 8 million people sign is a close enough approximation for their size, but when your population is only a 4-digit number, it can vary considerably from year to year. [01:44] heh [01:44] ~1600 inhabitants :D [01:44] I've been to a town that had a sign with pegs on it, and someone just changed the numbers. [01:45] But it was only a 2-digit population. [01:45] The 2000 census (which is ancient by now) says Mahomet has 4,877 folks. === apachelogger notes that there are far too many imortant packages waiting for revu :| [01:47] apachelogger: have you been poking people? [01:47] apachelogger: and have you been tending to packages that have been revu'ed by someone? [01:48] I was quite busy lately [01:48] maybe I should do a packaging afternoon [01:48] I'm not very productive today anyway ;-) [01:49] Riddell: I'm thinking of adding some warnings to Adept. [01:49] manchicken: about what? [01:49] Riddell: When any of your changes results in the removal of an important or essential package. [01:50] I've been toying with where to put it, and I think the only appropriate place to put this is when you hit the "Apply Changes" button. [01:51] why not when you click to make the change? [01:52] Primarily because not all side-effects of a single click are visible during that one click. [01:52] From the code point of view. [01:52] right [01:52] That information is much more accessible when you're getting ready to commit. === tmske_ [n=thomas@dD5763506.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:53] The only apprehension I have for this warning is the situation where one essential package obsoletes another, and adept is correctly removing it. [01:53] But that's why I'm thinking I'll put this on adept_manager only. [01:53] yes [01:53] Or do what I can to only put it there. === kwwii_ is now known as kwwii [01:54] updater and installer don't really have common use-cases where this situation would happen I don't think. [01:55] Do you have an up-to-date bzr branch of adept? [01:56] I think my one on launchpad.net/adept is === apachelogger is cleaning up his package trunk [01:56] if it's not (compared to what's in the archives) let me know [01:57] Righto. [01:57] Have you applied all of my recent fixes to that branch, too? [01:58] The fix for the useless details button bug and the bug where changelogs weren't respecting proxy settings? [01:58] Oh, yeah, the locked dpkg database fix. [02:00] manchicken: do I know about these fixes? [02:01] I thought you would since I put them on the bugs directly. [02:01] I haven't been doing a very good job of communicating fixes lately it seems... [02:04] I have every bug come into my inbox, I therefor miss quite a few of them [02:04] Nice. [02:04] I'll see if I can get bug numbers for you [02:04] if there's a patch for something IRC is probably best [02:06] There's the proxy fix patch posted on bug #119089 which also seems to fix bug #85056. [02:06] Launchpad bug 119089 in adept "Unable to fetch the Developer Changelog" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119089 [02:07] Launchpad bug 85056 in adept "adept_updater try's to fetch changelog from other package" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85056 [02:07] The database locked patch is posted on bug #48627. [02:07] Launchpad bug 48627 in adept "Poor resolution of "database locked" problem" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48627 [02:08] And then there's the useless details button bug fix patch on bug #119969. [02:08] Launchpad bug 119969 in adept "Adept Installer review changes screen has a useless Details button." [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119969 [02:08] Sorry about all of the confusion :) [02:08] Life's been so crazy lately it's hard to communicate all of this stuff effectively. [02:09] groovy stuff, I'll try and take a look at them today [02:09] Especially since we're buying the house and we're going to be moving at the end of August. [02:09] Sweet. Thanks :) [02:10] ScottK: ping [02:10] pong [02:11] ScottK: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6104 is it ok to just write "various files in the admin directory are covered by the LGPL"? [02:11] instead of listing all the files === ScottK looks [02:12] apachelogger: yes [02:12] thanks [02:12] ScottK: btw, if you're in revu mood, I got quite some work to do ^_^ [02:13] The comment on your previous upload still stands. [02:13] The latest rev of that package appears to have been loaded without the new tarball. === apachelogger is going to dput with -f [02:15] How did you build your source package? [02:18] debuild -S -sa [02:20] OK. That should be fine then. === yveslu [n=yves@217.31.69.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:20] Just make sure you -S -sa with the right source... === yveslu [n=yves@217.31.69.98] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] [02:22] ScottK: I have a very precise folder structure, so I'd probably have to drink a lot of coffee to do the debuild with the wrong source :) [02:23] OK. Just trying to consider all the possible error sources. [02:25] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6188 [02:25] Oo [02:25] doesn't show up in this diff either [02:25] OK then. How come I don't see COPYING.LIB in the debdiff then. http://revu.tauware.de/diff.py?upid1=5365&upid2=618 === apachelogger checks the tarball [02:25] Right. Or rather http://revu.tauware.de/diff.py?upid1=5365&upid2=6188 === marseillai_ [n=mars@AMarseille-156-1-73-95.w90-28.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:25] ScottK: has to be a bug in revu === ScottK will download and look. [02:26] cause the tarball is the right one [02:26] is there anything in kubuntu-desktop we wouldn't want in an edubuntu-kde? [02:27] Riddell: You might want to consider a lighter weight mail client. Is Kontact the right approach for their target market (I don't know)? [02:28] edubuntu seem to have evolution [02:28] I guess kexi would not be needed [02:29] ScottK: now actually there is no light weight mail client [02:29] or actually no proper usable one [02:29] Well then nevermind about that. === marseillai_ is now known as marseillai [02:29] only mailody [02:29] and that only supports imap [02:30] apachelogger: I agree, it's there. === ScottK is reviewing now. [02:30] hooray ^_^ === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:31] Riddell: kcron isn't needed === apachelogger thinks it shouldn't be in kubuntu-desktop either === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:32] apachelogger: there's more mini apps like this that could go into universe instead [02:32] (IMHO) [02:32] yeah [02:32] Riddell: ksystemlog is also nt really needed in the target market I think :) === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:33] boo [02:34] don't cry [02:34] apachelogger: you read my mind ... not sure if we should change it for Gutsy, but a more complex review of apps like those could happen for gutsy+1 [02:34] Riddell: ktorrent === ScottK [n=ScottK@ubuntu/member/scottk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee pokes people about the existance of a meeting === apachelogger asumes mhb will place this on his todo ^_^ [02:35] we having another meeting? [02:35] jjesse: yes, next wednesday === jjesse adds to schedule [02:35] Hobbsee: we do? great [02:35] Hobbsee: finally a meeting when I can attend and become mighty member? [02:35] as per the KubuntuCouncil spec, which was discussed, but the contents of which are still sitting on my hard drive [02:35] apachelogger: indeed. [02:35] mhb: yep [02:36] Riddell: actually kontact should be dropped -> only kmail [02:36] can't think of anything else right now ;) === apachelogger continues package preparation === Tonio_ [n=tonio@hoth.linagora.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:39] Riddell: back to work... [02:39] Riddell: so I was merging knm with debian, but I had problems to apply the kdepot patch since there is no admin/ folder in it [02:39] Riddell: btw kapptemplate admin/ folder seems to be ready for rosetta so I can drop the patch [02:39] apachelogger: What's the license of admin/am_edit? [02:39] Riddell: I'm just testing the build on a amd64 machine cause we had the isse till now, and I upload [02:40] there's no admin/ directory? [02:40] this is still KDE 3? [02:40] Riddell: true [02:40] but but.. how? [02:40] ask upstream :) [02:40] and this is still kde3 of course [02:40] Riddell: they have been prompted that's an issue, so let'ts wait for the next tarball [02:41] Riddell: so mbiebl added a builddep on kapptemplate to copy the admin content, but I had problem to get that copied before the patches are applied in fact [02:41] ScottK: there's no [02:41] Riddell: I know releasing a tarball without admin/ is a pure stipidity..... but that's it [02:42] s/sti/Stu [02:42] Riddell: I notices debian packages as network-manager-kde and provides knetworkmanager [02:42] apachelogger: There is. [02:43] Riddell: is there any reason we do the opposite way ? [02:43] Tonio_: because you made it that way? [02:43] wasnae me whoever did it [02:44] Riddell: I probably did as we packaged it before debian.... [02:44] Riddell: I don't see any consequence in changing this right now, should I change this ? [02:44] ScottK: Oo where? [02:44] Tonio_: ok with me [02:44] apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31388 [02:44] Riddell: oki :) [02:46] kde-common admin headache(tm) === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:46] Yeah. Also I only see a couple of files the mention LGPL. Since it's a small number, I think it'd be clearer to list them. [02:47] so [02:47] guys [02:47] do we have an example list [02:47] the archive admins discussed this yesterday, you don't need to list every small copyright holder [02:48] it has a different licence so its worth noting that but its ok to just say "file in admin/ are LGPL see common-licence.." [02:48] Agreed. [02:48] hooray [02:49] The only thing I would say is that I see LGPL in only two files out of about 20, so I think it should be listed which. [02:50] If it were more than that, I'd say various, but since it's only one or two. [02:50] 2 files in the admin directory are covered by the GNU LGPL [02:50] "some files" [02:50] I insist on not listing them :P === apachelogger is just finishing khalkhiapplets [02:52] I think it's be better to list them since it's only two, but I won't not upload it over that. [02:54] I'm actually counting 5 [02:54] +1 which partly includes LGPL code [02:54] OK. [02:54] My greppage must have been inferior then. [02:54] acinclude.m4.in conf.change.pl doxygen.sh config.pl configure.in.min oldinclude.m4.in [02:55] I found the partly one. That was interesting. [02:55] this is strange. I can build adept from the src-deb in the repos just fine... but the one in lp/~jr won't build. [02:55] so we can stick with the "various files"? [02:55] As I said, I won't not upload over it. [02:55] You do need to mention the other license though. [02:55] ScottK: other license? [02:56] manchicken: what won't build about it? [02:56] /usr/include/ept/debtags/vocabulary.h:28:36: error: tagcoll/diskindex/mmap.h: No such file or directory [02:56] The one I pastebinned you. [02:56] ScottK: wasn't that GPL? [02:56] Then several other missing headers with tagcoll in the directory nm. [02:56] apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31388 - Explicitly NOT GPL. [02:57] ok [02:57] manchicken: make sure you have all the build-deps installed and run make -f debian/rules buildprep [02:57] now I need painkillers [02:57] All the easy stuff was already packaged. [02:59] Hobbsee: Pinentry got cleared up in the mass giveback and built, so that's one thing off my list. [02:59] ScottK: great :) === apachelogger is wondering how to write that [03:00] manchicken: can't that be related to the fact that there are two tagcolls? [03:00] mhb: Not if I can build the deb-src in the repos, but not the bzr branch. [03:01] Riddell: Yeah, I'm still getting these errors even after all of that. [03:01] Riddell: done [03:01] Riddell: fyo I'll probably do ktorrent tomorrow, as well as kdelibs, I'll be at home for my contrib day [03:01] ScottK: http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/2044 sounds properly? [03:02] apachelogger: I'll look. What I came up with was http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31392/ [03:02] Riddell: hard to do the promissed work yesterday as I had a problem with my car [03:02] manchicken: make sure you have the right tagcoll{,2}-dev installed and make sure the wrong one is not installed [03:02] apachelogger: No, that is a license, just an odd one. [03:02] before running buildprep [03:02] ScottK: ok ^_^ [03:03] ScottK: http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/2045 [03:03] Riddell: I've got both. [03:03] oh! [03:03] Which is the wrong one? [03:03] missing white space :D [03:03] manchicken: whichever one isn't in the build-depends [03:04] ryanakca: testing and uploading your ktorrent [03:04] ryanakca: and please, insult those guys requesting for package update on launchpad next time :) [03:04] apachelogger: Except for islicensed -> is licensed, yes. [03:04] ryanakca: if they want it they can do it, and closing those stupid bugs makes packaging longuer....... drives me nuts [03:05] Riddell: There is no mention of "tagcoll" anywhere in the debian directory === apachelogger sings: lift me up, lift me up, higher no am a [03:05] Riddell: It's all a dependency from libept it seems. [03:06] manchicken: whichever one that needs then [03:07] Looks like that one needs libtagcoll2-dev [03:07] Removing libtagcoll-dev... [03:07] I just don't get why the deb-src builds without any issues, and the branch has the problem... [03:08] manchicken: probably it didn't do buildprep with the wrong ones installed [03:09] ScottK: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6191 === ScottK looks [03:10] apachelogger: Lets go for that. If it builds, I'll upload it. === jpetso [n=jpetso@v213-022.vps.tuwien.ac.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:13] arrr :) [03:15] apachelogger: This is the first thing I've built today, so I'm updating my pbuilder first. It'll likely be a little while. [03:16] ScottK: yeah, you can get some other packages to revu, if you want to ;-) [03:16] <-- packaging monster [03:17] actually I have about 20 packages scheduled for gutsy+1 === ScottK has some actual paying work to attend to. Let me know if you care to fall in that category. [03:17] ^_^ [03:19] kwwii: will I get artwork for kio-sysinfo for gutsy, or do I have to use the suse one? ... well, unsusefied suse artwork that would be :P === Riddell thinks kwwii is busy enough [03:21] hm [03:21] Riddell: just like you :P === apachelogger is going to ask the new amarok artwork guy === Arby [n=richard@shiny.york.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:25] Riddell: Is that medisoncelebrity.com really a scam? [03:27] And this thing, even using ./debian/rules buildprep && ./debian/rules build is still not building. Same problem. [03:28] manchicken: is adept from bzr the same version as in the archive? [03:28] manchicken: according to slashdot it is, and they're never wrong [03:28] I'm seriously doubting t. [03:28] it* [03:28] As the adept from the archive actually builds, whereas this one does not. [03:28] Even if I buildprep on it, it still builds. === xRaich[o] 2x [n=raichoo@i5387E2C1.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:29] apachelogger: screenshot? perhaps if I find some time, or it is really easy we can get something done === apachelogger checks the sources [03:37] siretart: just saw you had to add the vpn-properties patch again..... [03:37] Tonio_: Hello. [03:37] siretart: wasn't this sync on bzr ? I sent the patch to asac, so that we would fix this once and for all.... [03:37] Have you a moment to discuss Klamav [03:38] Tonio_: well, you moved it back to /usr/lib leaving the gnome-applet broken for over a week. so I went and added the patch back [03:38] siretart: I sent both the applet patch and the network-manager changes to install the binary under /usr/share, so I don't understand why only one of them reached the repos... === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:38] apachelogger: Uploaded. [03:38] siretart: nope, as I said, I did the 2 required changes, sending them to asac for bzr inclusion, telling him he'd have to release the 2 packages.... [03:38] ScottK: thanks [03:38] siretart: that's why I don't understand [03:39] siretart: there was changes on the network-manager package, and indeed a patch to add back to the applet package..... [03:39] Tonio_: binaries must not be installed in usr/share. atm it is in /usr/lib/network-manager/nm-vpn-properties [03:39] siretart: well sorry for the issue, but I must say I don't understand that mess :) [03:39] siretart: right, probably it was /usr/lib, you're right on that point :) [03:39] Tonio_: no problem. I just fixed a bug. there was even an lp bug open about it [03:40] siretart: let's hope it is on bzr this time as I requested, otherwise next upload will remove the patch again....... [03:40] kwwii: basically I'd just need a background image, then I probably can do some css magic and it's done http://aplg.kollide.net/images/tmp022.png http://aplg.kollide.net/images/tmp023.png [03:40] siretart: did you check the network-manager-applet bzr branch ? [03:40] siretart: probably there is the issue [03:40] no, I didn't [03:41] it would have been nice if it contained a XS-Vcs-Bzr tag [03:41] oki, we shoudl ping asac on that point [03:41] siretart: true, I suspect that's asac work, I may not even have access to the bzr branch in fact.... [03:42] siretart: I'll try to ping asac tomorrow concerning this, to unsure the branch is up to date and avoid breaking the applet again... [03:42] Tonio_: where is the network-manager-applet bzr branch? I don't see it on https://code.launchpad.net/network-manager/+branches [03:42] siretart: I don't want to really maintain this package as I don't use it in fact [03:42] apachelogger: I guess we could use something based on the new wallpaper [03:42] apachelogger: can't you just take the new kubuntu wallpaper and crop it to fit? [03:43] Tonio_: you are in the maintainer field, after all [03:43] siretart: it is a separate package afaik [03:43] Tonio_: yes, I know, but where is the branch? [03:43] https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/network-manager/gnome.ubuntu.0.6.x [03:43] siretart: there is it [03:43] ah, thanks [03:43] siretart: as you can see my changes are in it [03:43] siretart: so the issue is a human error, someone removed it manually it seems [03:44] siretart: seb128 didn't merge his changes too [03:44] and I couldn't remember but I have access to this ;) [03:44] siretart: would be nice to commit your latest changes maybe.... :) [03:45] siretart: he probably missed this because of the missing XS-Vcs-Bzr tag in fact :) that explains everything [03:45] perhaps I should upload ubuntu7 with just the XS-VCS-Bzr tag [03:45] siretart: my changes have never been released as a package, everyone used the old one [03:45] siretart: true, add the tag and commit bzr so that the problem is resolved once and for all [03:46] siretart: cause if we don't the problem will be back again and again... [03:48] Riddell: that looks silly when you just got konqui on the desktop, not in fullscreen, and you're on the sysinfo page [03:48] Tonio_: WTF is this? just a debian/ directory and nothing else? [03:48] kwwii: based on the wallpaper sounds good though [03:48] siretart: true [03:49] siretart: that's the way we generally do btw, just sync debian/ with the package [03:49] siretart: I just did as asac initiated the branch :) I'm not responsible for it, but that's the way I would also do it [03:49] siretart: what is the problem with this ? [03:49] Riddell: Yeah, just a quick look at the control files shows that your bzr tree is pretty out of date. The archive deb-src is requiring a version of debtags >= 1.6.1 and your control file is also missing a lot of dependencies in the control file that is in the archive has. [03:50] Tonio_: how do you build the package? if you copy the source in, you'll get tons of 'unknown files' [03:50] Tonio_: that's ugly and error prone. why not just versioning the contents of the debian/ dir? why the debian dir itself? [03:51] manchicken: ok, sorry about that, I'll merge it when I get a chance, just work from the version in the archive then [03:51] Righto. Not a problem. All of those patches I mentioned before in the bug reports were based off of the archive version and not off of the bzr branch, just to clarify. [03:52] And I would apply them in the order of the details button bug, the proxy fix, and the dpkg lock fix as I wrote them in that order... that might help avoid conflicts. [03:58] Tonio_: pushed and uploaded [03:59] siretart: you rock :) [04:02] edubuntu-desktop-kde uploaded [04:02] Tonio_: Maybe a minute now on klamav? [04:02] I wanted to discuss the patch you did on disabling updates. [04:02] Also there's a new upstream version. [04:03] apachelogger: cool, I am sure that we can get something in, might take a bit as I am quite overloaded with work atm [04:04] kwwii: well, one week before upstream version freeze should be ok [04:05] freeze is on 16th, isn't it? [04:05] good question, I have no idea [04:05] Lord Riddell knows [04:05] oh actually [04:05] it's not an upstream version change [04:05] what is it then? [04:05] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GutsyReleaseSchedule === rouzic [n=rouzic@212.145.63.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:06] an artwork change [04:06] hm [04:06] now [04:06] GutsyArtworkFinalDeadline September 20th [04:07] oh, cool [04:07] so I'll upload current version to revu ASAP [04:07] sure [04:07] Riddell, Tonio_: btw, did one of you actually had a look at the konquerorrc patch I sent? [04:08] apachelogger: no, I've been meaning to do that for ages [04:08] maybe I should just do it now [04:09] hehe === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@mue-88-130-117-181.dsl.tropolys.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:21]