[04:47] (jhutchins/#kubuntu) whoo, we are generating a LOT of lines of offtopic chat here.
[04:47] (Minataku/#kubuntu) jhutchins: I have a pre-Thinkpad
[04:47] (Minataku/#kubuntu) LinuxGuy: No, it installs a regular distro
[04:47] (LinuxGuy/#kubuntu) k , cool
[04:47] (rjune/#kubuntu) jhutchins: how goes it?
[04:47] (bsundsrud/#kubuntu) LinuxGuy: alt is for different options (like LVM) and isnt a livecd
[04:47] <Minataku> It's just tweaked to bypass some issues the regular CD may have
[04:47] <jhutchins> LinuxGuy: No, it's a more full-featured installer, without the Live CD stuff.
[04:47] <LinuxGuy> oh i dont want to install it over my XP at the moment
[04:47] <LinuxGuy> i just want to try it out
[04:47] <LinuxGuy> and then install it later
[04:48] <LinuxGuy> :(
[04:48] <Minataku> jhutchins: IBM PS/2 note N51 slc
[04:48] <LinuxGuy> guess i should stop that download
[04:48] <jhutchins> LinuxGuy: The Live CD won't boot?
[04:48] <Minataku> 80386SLC
[04:48] <LinuxGuy> the normal distro is the live cd right ?
[04:48] <Minataku> ESDI HDD
[04:48] <heiths> I have my xorg file posted here... not sli but I have 8800gtx.  may help a bit.. http://seeco.cc/linux/files/xorgnv.html
[04:48] <Minataku> MCA Bus
[04:48] <jhutchins> Minataku: I installed some of the first HD equipped IBM PC'S.
[04:48] <LinuxGuy> that is the one i get all those errors with
[04:48] <Minataku> jhutchins: Nice
[04:48] <LinuxGuy> just the normal non alternative install
[04:48] <LinuxGuy> thats a live cd i thought
[04:49] <Minataku> The only thing I don't like about the PS/2 note N51 slc
[04:49] <crazycraig> w00t JUST GOT PAID!!!!
[04:49] <LinuxGuy> and if so then , yes it wont boot
[04:49] <crazycraig> good old maccyds
[04:49] <Minataku> It's coated in this rubber stuff
[04:49] <bsundsrud> !offtopic
[04:49] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:49] <crazycraig> soz
[04:49] <heiths> I have an IBM 370 sitting in a rack out in my garage right now
[04:49] <LinuxGuy> "Can't access tty ; job control failed" , Failed to set xfer mode (err_mask) , Revalidation failed (errno =-5) , ATA 2.00 Exception Emask , ATA 2.00 CMD , Buffer I/O error on device SDA Logical block 0.
[04:49] <Minataku> All sorts of crap sticks to it
[04:49] <elite101> how do i delete DSL linux from my SDRAM/64Mb ? it wont boot the computer with it in?
[04:49] <chaotic_> whats the command  to mount an iso
[04:49] <bsundsrud> ooh LinuxGuy, i had that when i tried to install fedora 7
[04:49] <jhutchins> LinuxGuy: Ok, when you boot, try the folowing options: noapci, noapic, vga=normal
[04:49] <rjune> bsundsrud: does trying to get apache-ssl setup in kubuntu count as offtopic?
[04:49] <Minataku> LinuxGuy: Ooooh, that IS HDD-related
[04:49] <bsundsrud> rjune: no
[04:50] <LinuxGuy> thats what i thought
[04:50] <LinuxGuy> does it sound related to my main drive
[04:50] <Minataku> jhutchins: I don't think relegating him to 80x24 VGA will help anything
[04:50] <jhutchins> rjune: Not really, but better heads in #apache.
[04:50] <bsundsrud> if you dont know if you're off topic, youre not.
[04:50] <LinuxGuy> or a seconday drive
[04:50] <crazycraig> go to windows DOS thn  type in::::: format c:
[04:50] <jhutchins> Minataku: That's console only.
[04:50] <LinuxGuy> my main drive is brand new , raptor X 150
[04:50] <jhutchins> Minataku: Doesn't affect the GUI.
[04:50] <LinuxGuy> I have an IDE drive which is converted to SATA
[04:50] <Minataku> LinuxGuy: Not sure, but it looks like the installer is taking issue to some part of the HDD system
[04:50] <jhutchins> Minataku: framebuffer barfs on a lot of older hardware.
[04:50] <LinuxGuy> which i use for storage
[04:50] <rjune> jhutchins: each distro has diff tools to help set it up. I was wanting the apache2-ssl-certificate script specifically
[04:50] <Minataku> jhutchins: His box is brand new
[04:51] <LinuxGuy> im gonna unplug the converted drive to see what happens
[04:51] <LinuxGuy> brb
[04:51] <rjune> which many HOWTOs reference, but apparently doesn't exist.
[04:51] <jhutchins> rjune: All I know about it is doccumented at http://tldp.org - and I have to crib from two different HOWTO's and triangulate at that.
[04:51] <heiths> I hate to say it... but maybe you should try Sayaban 3.4... just came out and its geared for cutting edge hardware.
[04:51] <crazycraig> Press ALT+F4 together to solve your problem
[04:51] <heiths> sabayon*
[04:51] <jhutchins> heiths: Kernels are kernels.  We all use the same one.
[04:51] <crazycraig> LOL
[04:51] <rjune> jhutchins: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4466.html
[04:52] <rjune> look for jBilbo's post
[04:52] <heiths> kernel that ships with kubuntu is what?
[04:52] <Minataku> Try the Gentoo LiveCD
[04:52] <Minataku> Or Knoppix for a very good LiveCD
[04:52] <rjune> sure makes it look easy
[04:52] <Minataku> Knoppix's LiveDVD is even better
[04:52] <heiths> kernel that ships with Sabayan is 2.6.22
[04:52] <jhutchins> rjune: http://www.google.com/search?q=ssl+site%3Atldp.org
[04:52] <hitmanWilly> heiths, 2.6.20 IIRC
[04:52] <Minataku> No real option to install with Knoppix, but it's the _BEST_ to try out Linux
[04:53] <jhutchins> rjune: Sorry, man, that's all I got tonight.
[04:53] <robin> hello all, I cant seem to get kubuntu to boot sinse installing a 8800 gts, tried to reinstall with alternate cd still wont boot, will the lastest alpha ok kubuntu work?
[04:54] <heiths> use "envy" to reinstall the video drivers
[04:54] <Biovore> robin: not sure.. the 8800 gts dosn't work with the opensource nv driver..
[04:54] <Minataku> robin: What error?
[04:54] <robin> no error just black screen
[04:54] <Minataku> Hm
[04:55] <heiths> I had same issue... check out my xorg here.... http://seeco.cc/linux/files/xorgnv.html
[04:55] <Biovore> robin: you will probably have to install in text mode and install the real nvidia driver after install to get the graphics working..
[04:55] <heiths> that + reinstall nvidia driver using http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[04:55] <hitmanWilly> BluesKaj, i was thinking the same thing, or maybe the 8800 card is choking on the nv driver
[04:55] <heiths> use vesa to do the install
[04:55] <Biovore> 8800 chokes on nv driver.. hangs the box..
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> they must have done some pretty major hw reconfigs
[04:56] <bsundsrud> robin: or do video=vesa at boot, video will suck until you can install the nvidia driver though
[04:56] <bsundsrud> but it wont be text mode
[04:56] <robin> tried to install nvidia driver from web site, says I dont have restristed kernle where do i get
[04:57] <hitmanWilly> robin, its in the repos, nvidia-glx-new
[04:57] <Minataku> Well, sorry to go off-topic, but computers are something I can't help but talk about XD
[04:57] <heiths> sed -i 's/"nv"/"vesa"/g' /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:57] <hitmanWilly> robin, the driver, i mean
[04:58] <bsundsrud> Minataku: join us in the offtopic chan then. we're talking about computers and cats.
[04:58] <robin> k will try thx
[04:59] <hitmanWilly> issues like this are why i use a text mode login :)
[04:59] <heiths> hit alt+f2 right before it starts the xserver... then login as ubuntu and type ed -i 's/"nv"/"vesa"/g' /etc/X11/xorg.conf && /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[04:59] <heiths> then hit alt+f7 to go back to the gui
[05:00] <heiths> *sed not ed
[05:04] <BluesKaj> sacktime for me ... too much fresh air today ..burnt out , nite all , take care
[05:08] <reinaldo> hello
[05:12] <K-Ryan> I'm really bored, anyone suggestions?
[05:13] <K-Ryan> *any
[05:13] <bsundsrud> sudo apt-get install crack-attack
[05:15] <K-Ryan> Not a good enough laptop
[05:15] <K-Ryan> Thanks for the suggestion though
[05:16] <bsundsrud> aw
[05:16] <bsundsrud> we network play that at work :D
[05:18] <redshadowhero> does kismet exist for kubuntu?
[05:19] <bsundsrud> yes
[05:19] <redshadowhero> how would I install it?
[05:19] <K-Ryan> !kismet
[05:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kismet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:19] <K-Ryan> !info kismet
[05:19] <ubotu> kismet: Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 2006.04.R1-1.1 (feisty), package size 964 kB, installed size 2448 kB
[05:19] <redshadowhero> sudo apt-get install kismet
[05:19] <bsundsrud> sudo apt-get install kismet
[05:19] <K-Ryan> Yeah
[05:19] <K-Ryan> Universe repository has to be open
[05:19] <bsundsrud> yes, virginia, it is that simple.
[05:19] <bsundsrud> cheers, red ;)
[05:20] <redshadowhero> what about virginia?
[05:20] <bsundsrud> dont worry about her.
[05:20] <bsundsrud> shes safe.
[05:20] <redshadowhero> oh, like the song?
[05:21] <bsundsrud> nevermind, bad reference
[05:22] <Daisuke_Ido> yes redshadowhero, there is an esoteric reference
[05:23] <redshadowhero> so... sad...
[05:23] <Daisuke_Ido> and a fat jolly anthropomorphic personification
[05:23] <scotty> !lamp
[05:23] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:23] <zoohouse> How do I see which harddrive I am currently running linux on? -- I have 2 hard drives with linux. The distro im currently on is kubuntu, I want to keep this but the other distro I want to get rid of. I don't remember which harddrive kubuntu is installed in...
[05:23] <Biovore> zoohouse: cat /etc/fstab
[05:24] <Daisuke_Ido> see what drive is mounted on /
[05:24] <redshadowhero> okay, I installed kismet... but I can't find the app... where would it be?
[05:24] <zoohouse> Biovore: thanks
[05:24] <bsundsrud> zoohouse: also, df -h will show you which are currently mounted
[05:24] <zoohouse> thanks
[05:24] <bsundsrud> red, try it from the command line
[05:24] <bsundsrud> it may not have shown up in the kmenu yet
[05:25] <redshadowhero> I tried kismet on the command line...
[05:25] <kirke> hello, I can't send attachment trouhgt my POP3 client like KMail or Thunderbird somebdoy has an idea?
[05:25] <redshadowhero> but it looks like it didn't work.
[05:26] <bsundsrud> kirke: neither work?
[05:27] <redshadowhero> after running kismet from the command line, I get this message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31355/
[05:27] <kirke> bsundsrud, neither
[05:28] <kirke> bsundsrud,  I can send mails but WHITOUT attachment
[05:28] <bsundsrud> wow, thats strange.  not a smtp server problem?
[05:28] <kirke> bsundsrud, But in windows I can send trought outlook or thunderbird
[05:28] <bsundsrud> redshadowhero: if you do it as superuser it should work (sudo)
[05:28] <wolferine> anyone an fTPd expert? having a permission issue :/
[05:30] <bsundsrud> kirke: sorry, im not sure what to tell you... maybe try evolution and see if that works?
[05:30] <redshadowhero> I did it as sudo, and I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31356/
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, what issue?
[05:31] <wolferine> hitmanWilly, its long :)
[05:32] <wolferine> r u ready ? :)
[05:32] <hitmanWilly> ok, spill it
[05:33] <wolferine> so I have two users on my system, user and ftp_user. i use my ftp_user to login into my FTP, my user has permissions and ownership of a mount on my system and I want to offer that in my /home/ftp_user, so I use mount --bind to allow access to that mount,
[05:33] <wolferine> if I login, using ftp_user, and I want to allow the user to download, what ownership/permissions (minimum) need to be set?
[05:34] <wolferine> someone had suggested making a group, with user and ftp_user in it, and setting the files permissions to allow the group to do what I need
[05:34] <wolferine> or you just want to talk in #linux?
[05:35] <wolferine> headmonkey might offer some info on it too, I hope :)
[05:35] <nzk> I'm booted into the Kubuntu live CD, where exactly is the option to install this?
[05:35] <wolferine> nzk, desktop
[05:35] <nzk> It was babbling about file protocol errors once the DE came up.
[05:35] <nzk> And it's not on the desktop :\
[05:37] <nzk> wolferine: I was perhaps thinking that there was a command that the icon was tied to/
[05:37] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, if the user acct being accessed is ftp_user, you could set the group perms to RO, and everything else to nil, then add user to the ftp_user group if you need him to have access
[05:37] <nzk> s///?
[05:38] <wolferine> hitmanWilly, I was wanting to access it the other way around
[05:38] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, ? explain...
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[05:38] <wolferine> have userhmm
[05:38] <wolferine> ops
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[05:38] <wolferine> hmm, I guess the reverse makes no difference really
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[05:38] <crazycraig> [03:20]  <bsundsrud> i know, but he was doing something potentially destructive
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[05:39] <crazycraig> [03:20]  <BluesKaj> uhoh
[05:39] <crazycraig> [03:20]  <nosrednaekim> rm -rf /
[05:39] <crazycraig> [03:20]  <crazycraig> hey guys
[05:39] <crazycraig> [03:20]  <nosrednaekim> I wanna watch pls.
[05:39] <crazycraig> [03:20]  <nosrednaekim> :)
[05:39] <hitmanWilly> crazycraig, wtf are you doing?
[05:39] <crazycraig> [03:20]  <bsundsrud> i said potentially, not definitely
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[05:39] <crazycraig> [03:21]  <crazycraig> Why is linux so awesome??
[05:39] <crazycraig> [03:21]  <nosrednaekim> hey crazycraig
[05:39] <crazycraig> [03:21]  <bsundsrud> infinite customizability
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[05:39] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, basically, it all comes down to groups
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[05:40] <crazycraig> [03:22]  <crazycraig> i no i gt this nice Black/Earth Red glossy theme goin on
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[05:40] <redshadowhero> whats... going on?
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[05:40] <crazycraig> [03:22]  <nosrednaekim> crazycraig: yeah, KDE is amazingly configurable
[05:40] <crazycraig> [03:22]  <bsundsrud> and its nice to program in :)
[05:40] <wolferine> yeah, and I really havent gotten my head around that concept entirely, yet
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[05:40] <wolferine> !op
[05:40] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[05:40] <crazycraig> [03:23]  <crazycraig> yup
[05:40] <crazycraig> [03:23]  <chaotic_> thanks
[05:40] <wolferine> thakns
[05:40] <hitmanWilly> ty
[05:40] <hitmanWilly> i was about 2 secs away from an /ignore
[05:41] <wolferine> and the other part, is the daemon can be set to deny/allow users as well
[05:41] <wolferine> so its complicated, at what level do you stop
[05:41] <redshadowhero> wait... what was going all with all the cut/pasting?
[05:41] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, if this is a public ftp server, i wouldn't worry about that
[05:42] <wolferine> well, to allow uploads, I do
[05:42] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, ah, gotcha
[05:42] <wolferine> so ill look into what you said, and give her a try
[05:44] <nzk> Kubuntu LiveCD has no desktop icon for installation, what should I do?
[05:45] <miles> wtf@nzk
[05:45] <miles> put that cd in the microwave and burn a new one
[05:45] <redshadowhero> agreed
[05:45] <robotgeek> nzk: hmm, you said it came up errors?
[05:45] <robotgeek> nzk: what kind of error?
[05:47] <nzk> robotgeek: "File protocols failed to load"
[05:48] <redshadowhero> how do I uninstall things that I installed with apt-get?
[05:48] <robotgeek> nzk: are you able to access the rest of the desktop?
[05:48] <inteliwasp> could someone point me to a guide to allow me to allow internet access to a computer from another?
[05:49] <wolferine> hitmanWilly, so make ftp_user a part of user's group
[05:49] <wolferine> then set the group permission to read
[05:49] <wolferine> and I should be able to login and down load?
[05:49] <wolferine> if the daemon is setup correctly, obviouslyt
[05:51] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, so let me get this straight, you want to give ftp access to ftp_user to files owned by user, or am i totally off the map?
[05:51] <wolferine> correct
[05:51] <wolferine> i am useing mount --bind to access my user's files, within the ftp_user dir
[05:51] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, this isn't a public server, is it?
[05:52] <wolferine> its accessible anywhere
[05:52] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, as in outside folks accessing it?
[05:52] <wolferine> yes, 'folks' can access it :)
[05:53] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, ok, giving the general piblic access to you local user's files is a REALLY bad idea
[05:53] <nzk> robotgeek: Everything else works fine, at first glance, except the absent icons.
[05:53] <wolferine> its not the user's /home/user
[05:53] <wolferine> its a /media/hda5
[05:53] <wolferine> that the user has permissions to
[05:54] <robotgeek> nzk: try looking if there is a install icon somewhere in the menus
[05:55] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, ok, for security's sake, what i would then suggest is to make a seperate group, like ftp and putting both ftp_user and user into it
[05:56] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, and then changing the group owner of the files you want to access to ftp
[05:56] <wolferine> and even though user is the owner of the files/dirs, then giving group access, ftp_user should be able to access them as well
[05:56] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, yes, if the file perms are set correctly
[05:57] <nzk> robotgeek: Ubiquity failed unexpectedly
[05:57] <robotgeek> nzk: well, ubiquity is the installer. you might want to try the alternate install cd
[05:57] <nzk> -_-
[05:58] <nzk> I've tried MintOS, Gusty Gibbon, Fedora Core 7, and now Kubuntu 7.04. Will nothing work?
[05:58] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, you will have to change the group owner of the files to ftp, then i would set it to ro for group access
[05:59] <wolferine> let me read about permissions again
[05:59] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, while keeping full owner (user) permissions, so that he can add/remove files
[05:59] <wolferine> brb
[05:59] <hitmanWilly> its times like these i wish irc had a chalkboard...
[05:59] <wolferine> lol
[06:00] <wolferine> tru that
[06:00] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, ok, back in a sec
[06:00] <wolferine> sure
[06:00] <wolferine> np
[06:02] <miles> hey so linus torvalds pretty much hates cvs and subversion
[06:02] <miles> he loves git tho
[06:02] <elite101> omg i love linux :) i am downloading kubuntu 7.04 off bit torrent and noticed wow? what? download speed is 250kbps?? in windows mine is only at 70/90kbps? lol my interenet is soo much faster and its on bit torrent too!!!
[06:03] <elite101> wireless internet*
[06:03] <_modem> ;)
[06:03] <wolferine> elite101, if you knew a thing or two more about computers, you might realize none of that is true :)
[06:03] <dr_willis> hmm.. or its the shear # of people shareing the torrents.
[06:03] <dr_willis> :)
[06:04] <wolferine> hey dr_will
[06:04] <elite101> wow i never noticed the jump its weird seeing tripple digits
[06:04] <elite101> yeah it is
[06:04] <dr_willis> windowes i recall tends to average the #'s out a lot more
[06:04] <elite101> and its way up now lol i love it
[06:05] <miles> git
[06:05] <miles> !git
[06:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about git - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:05] <miles> ubotu is weak sauce
[06:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is weak sauce - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:05] <wolferine> hehe
[06:05] <raylu> lol
[06:06] <elite101> lol
[06:06] <elite101> @ubotu
[06:06] <wolferine> to list a dir, you need read permissions?
[06:07] <hitmanWilly> ok, back
[06:07] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, to download files you do :)
[06:07] <wolferine> ah, no, you need x to list
[06:10] <elite101> wow kubuntu tribe 3 looks really clean
[06:10] <elite101> and well made
[06:11] <elite101> wow lol K desktop 3.5.7 i think i have 3.5.2
[06:12] <miles> Sysinfo for 'nzxt': Linux 2.6.20-15-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: AMDAthlon643800+ at 1000 MHz (2016 bogomips), , RAM: 839/2012MB, 95 proc's, 1.45h up
[06:12] <miles> how do i do that to myself?
[06:13] <miles> append "| miles"?
[06:13] <raylu> huh?
[06:13] <raylu> do what?
[06:13] <wolferine> hitmanWilly, do I use chmod, or umask?
[06:13] <miles> Sysinfo for 'nzxt': Linux 2.6.20-15-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: AMDAthlon643800+ at 1000 MHz (2016 bogomips), , RAM: 842/2012MB, 97 proc's, 1.46h up
[06:13] <miles> how do i send /sysinfo to myself without flooding?
[06:13] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, chmod, at least is what id use
[06:13] <elite101> better info i have p3 551Mhz 128/32 mb sd ram ohh yeah 4.3gb hardrive 2300 rpm!!!
[06:13] <wolferine> the umask is mostly used within the ftpd
[06:14] <elite101> did i mention me Nvidia Vanta 16mb
[06:14] <elite101> lol
[06:14] <raylu> oh, on that note
[06:14] <elite101> can only run atari emu on this machine
[06:14] <raylu> how do i get ftpd to set a group when uploading?
[06:14] <miles> cs:s
[06:14] <wolferine> hitmanWilly, so I should really be setting folders to entirely different permissions, then my files?
[06:14] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, yes, especially if you want to allow uploads
[06:15] <wolferine> -rw-r--r-- for regular files and drwxr-xr-x for directories (thats what the tutorial is explaining)
[06:15] <elite101> why is it when ppl make linux distro's they try to match it to M$?????
[06:15] <wolferine> which equates to umask 022
[06:15] <miles> so MS users transition over easier
[06:15] <elite101> like nymbus and FAMELIX???
[06:15] <elite101> okay ic
[06:15] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, that should work
[06:15] <elite101> maybe i should of used that
[06:16] <elite101> all u have to do is get a windows icons and taskbar to change from gray to blue
[06:16] <wolferine> ok, lets test this out
[06:16] <miles> ubuntu > all (except maybe gentoo)
[06:17] <raylu> lol
[06:17] <raylu> i tried gentoo after hearing about how great emerge was
[06:17] <miles> same <---
[06:17] <raylu> the equivalent of "sudo aptitude update" is a 200mb download
[06:17] <wolferine> how can I chmod dirs only?
[06:17] <raylu> and the equivalent of "sudo aptitude upgrade" is like 50 commands and an hour of compiling
[06:17] <wolferine> and in that same sense, how can i do files only?
[06:17] <miles> my linux xp isnt high enough for gentoo..... im only a lvl 4
[06:17] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, cd .. and chmod the dir
[06:18] <miles> 2950/3600 xp
[06:18] <raylu> i think he wants -R, hitmanWilly
[06:18] <wolferine> no no
[06:18] <elite101> what is redhat linux?
[06:18] <wolferine> how can I just chmod all the dirs in a dir
[06:18] <wolferine> and not the files..
[06:18] <wolferine> and vice versa
[06:18] <hitmanWilly> raylu, no, that will chmod recursively through the whole dir
[06:18] <elite101> or suses? like branches off of the os linux?
[06:18] <wolferine> how can I chmod the files, and not the dirs?
[06:18] <miles> elite101, "linux" is really just the kernel
[06:18] <elite101> yeah
[06:18] <miles> gnu/linux is what you are using on your desktop
[06:18] <elite101> so suse is like a branch of it?
[06:19] <miles> when someone comes along and modifies the kernel to their liking, and release it, that becomes a distro
[06:19] <elite101> and then comes like kubuntu and such
[06:19] <elite101> okay ic
[06:19] <raylu> hitmanWilly, I'm aware, but there's no other way of chmodding multiple files, is there?
[06:19] <miles> so, Novell modified the kernel and suse came of it
[06:19] <elite101> but whats redhat another version like dapper? feisty feet?
[06:19] <raylu> !linux
[06:19] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[06:19] <miles> laff
[06:19] <elite101> lol
[06:20] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, individually, or in a file manager, you can highlight multiple ones and chmod them all at once
[06:20] <wolferine> but not via cli?
[06:20] <raylu> or you could write a bash script for it if you really feel like overkill
[06:20] <wolferine> ... easily
[06:20] <raylu> overkill IS easy.
[06:20] <raylu> chmod -R -rwx /
[06:20] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, you could, but it would involve some scripting
[06:20] <wolferine> can I just chmod everything all at once then?
[06:20] <elite101> just downloaded 130mb in like 5mins :) my kubuntu is almost kinda finished
[06:20] <wolferine> so I can move into dirs, and download files
[06:21] <raylu> huh?
[06:21] <elite101> does kubuntu 7.04 have dapper?
[06:21] <raylu> ...
[06:21] <elite101> or is it feisty feet?
[06:21] <raylu> dapper is kubuntu 5
[06:21] <raylu> er, wait
[06:21] <elite101> kubuntu 5?
[06:21] <raylu> it's 6, i think
[06:21] <hitmanWilly> 6.06 actually
[06:21] <elite101> yeah thats what i have
[06:21] <raylu> feisty fawn is 7.04
[06:21] <wolferine> so the dir would have to have rwxr-xr-- and the files would have r--r--r--
[06:21] <miles> feisty fawn pwnz
[06:21] <elite101> but i am scared its going to be diffrent?
[06:21] <wolferine> that should be the correct permissions, right?
[06:21] <raylu> wolferine, why doesn't the owner have permissions to write to his own files?
[06:22] <raylu> wolferine, correct for what?
[06:22] <elite101> will it be a big change from dapper to feisty?
[06:22] <elite101> or harldy notice?
[06:22] <wolferine> raylu, your in the middle of something
[06:22] <raylu> elite101, yes. feisty eats humans for breakfast
[06:22] <wolferine> oh wait
[06:22] <elite101> lol ahhhh
[06:22] <hitmanWilly> raylu, its a long story
[06:22] <raylu> lol
[06:22] <wolferine> that is incorrect
[06:22] <wolferine> so files would be rwxr--r--
[06:22] <wolferine> i mean
[06:22] <elite101> is fiesty good? like would a dapper user like me notice the diff?
[06:22] <raylu> no
[06:22] <raylu> upgrade immediately. now. go.
[06:22] <elite101> lol i dont have it
[06:22] <miles> laff
[06:23] <elite101> i am getting it now (planning on burning all the iso's and distros out there!!)
[06:23] <miles> why
[06:23] <wolferine> hitmanWilly, do I have to chmod them seperately then?
[06:23] <elite101> lol for fun
[06:23] <wolferine> individually then*
[06:23] <elite101> PUD doesnt look that bad either
[06:23] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, probably
[06:23] <wolferine> ugh
[06:23] <elite101> a mac user to get into linux
[06:23] <elite101> PUD
[06:24] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, you could just chmod -R the whole thing to what you want the files to be then go back and chmod the dirs individually, that should save you some time
[06:24] <elite101> will i need a DVD-R to install a distro at all?
[06:24] <raylu> no
[06:24] <wolferine> yeah
[06:24] <hitmanWilly> elite101, not with *buntu
[06:24] <elite101> i have a DVD-drive but its not a burner
[06:24] <wolferine> i just did 755
[06:25] <gandhii> Adept is giving me this error "You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one."
[06:25] <wolferine> and I can move into the dirs
[06:25] <wolferine> and dl the files
[06:25] <wolferine> will the x in the files be an issue though?
[06:25] <gandhii> I can't seem to find anything in htop that looks like a package manager...  whats going on?
[06:25] <wolferine> via ftp...
[06:25] <elite101> but will they have it in cd-r but just that they cant boot from live cd? lol they prob will have that in the future so many apps and updates
[06:25] <elite101> on only 700mb
[06:25] <elite101> instead of 4.7gb u can put windows on there and run it (slowwwwwww....)
[06:26] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, not for the existing files, but there is the possibility that someone could upload a script and execute it
[06:26] <wolferine> hitmanWilly, true
[06:26] <wolferine> so the permissions of the files in the upload dir will be affected by umask, defined in my ftpd.conf :)
[06:26] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, now, granted, it wouldn't have root perms, but it could still be a headache
[06:26] <raylu> Study Proves Having Fat Friends Makes You Fat | http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/07/25/2228207
[06:27] <raylu> so, anyone know of
[06:27] <wolferine> correct?
[06:27] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, yup, a umask would actually be good in this case
[06:27] <raylu> a way to get proftpd to set a group for uploaded files?
[06:27] <wolferine> right
[06:27] <wolferine> i think I am getting the hang of this
[06:27] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, if you set a umask of 022, it should prevent that
[06:27] <wolferine> right
[06:27] <elite101> can windows read linux partitions if u set a linux HDD in a windows computer can u open it up?
[06:28] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, umask just adds additional restrictions on top of the already existing permissions
[06:28] <elite101> under my computer
[06:28] <wolferine> now my file system is working, not to figure out how to break the ftpd :)
[06:28] <raylu> elite101, yes
[06:28] <raylu> ubuntu installs as ext3 by default
[06:28] <gandhii> elite:   there are file managers made to read ext2 or 3 and reiserfs filesystems from windows
[06:29] <raylu> *filesystem drivers
[06:29] <hitmanWilly> elite101, you'll need the ext3 driver on the win box, tho
[06:29] <elite101> ohh darn lol
[06:29] <raylu> ...
[06:29] <gandhii> elite:  google it and dl
[06:30] <wolferine> sweet
[06:30] <wolferine> thanks for the patience hitman
[06:30] <hitmanWilly> ok, all, bedtime for me
[06:30] <hitmanWilly> np
[06:30] <wolferine> ill get you back some time ;)
[06:30] <hitmanWilly> :)
[06:30] <wolferine> nite
[06:30] <jbrouhard> Anyone here have problems with ipw3945 wireless?
[06:30] <jbrouhard> IHalf the time the wireless works, the other half it doesn't.
[06:30] <miles> ipw3945 worked tits on fiesty fawn
[06:30] <miles> tits = great
[06:31] <miles> it was a restricted driver though
[06:31] <jbrouhard> I have Feisty Fawn
[06:31] <miles> so stallman cursed me for that, but whatever, i got wireless
[06:31] <jbrouhard> problem is it's not working 100%
[06:31] <miles> do you have restricted driver manager?
[06:31] <jbrouhard> it craps out every once in a while.. i'm not sure if it's my WAP tho
[06:31] <jbrouhard> No
[06:31] <jbrouhard> this is a fresh from CD install ?
[06:32] <jbrouhard> how do i install restricted driver manager ??
[06:32] <miles> 1 - it should be installed automatically...
[06:32] <jbrouhard> (sorry for being a n00b here... first time i've had this kind of wireless issue in kubuntu)
[06:32] <miles> !find restricted-driver-manager
[06:32] <miles> ok it hates me
[06:32] <ubotu> Package/file restricted-driver-manager does not exist in feisty
[06:32] <jbrouhard> lol
[06:32] <miles> !find restrict
[06:32] <ubotu> Found: restricted-manager, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-386, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-lowlatency, ubuntu-restricted-extras (and 10 others)
[06:32] <jbrouhard> restricted-manager probably
[06:32] <miles> !find restricted-manager
[06:32] <ubotu> Found: restricted-manager
[06:32] <jbrouhard> !find restricted-manager
[06:33] <jbrouhard> dohhhhh
[06:33] <miles> "sudo apt-get install restricted-manager"
[06:33] <jbrouhard> ok
[06:33] <jbrouhard> thanks
[06:33] <miles> see if it detects ur card
[06:33] <jbrouhard> *waits for firefox to finish first
[06:33] <jbrouhard> If this works, you'd have saved my behind <BG>
[06:33] <miles> im not promising anything...all i did was tell ubuntu its ok to use the restricted driver
[06:33] <miles> and it workd
[06:34] <jbrouhard> Ahhh
[06:34] <jbrouhard> what laptop ?
[06:34] <miles> asus f3f
[06:34] <jbrouhard> I have a Toshiba Satellite with the Intel Pro 3945 ABG card.
[06:34] <jbrouhard> hmm
[06:34] <miles> probably same chipset though
[06:34] <jbrouhard> I've been wondering if my wireless access point has been the biggest issue
[06:34] <jbrouhard> probably
[06:34] <miles> ipw3945 works..i know for a fact, my work and personal laptop have it and work with ubuntu
[06:35] <jbrouhard> Yeah
[06:35] <jbrouhard> it's working here
[06:35] <jbrouhard> but it's just going on and off here
[06:35] <jbrouhard> half the time it'll download
[06:35] <jbrouhard> then all of a sudden i have MAJOR connection problems
[06:35] <miles> you have your essid and/or key set?
[06:35] <jbrouhard> yes
[06:35] <jbrouhard> it's an open access point
[06:35] <jbrouhard> so no key
[06:36] <jbrouhard> (only place that requries a key is on campus)
[06:36] <raylu> jbrouhard, so when it doesn't work, what do you do?
[06:36] <faires> Adept can't find any tetex package. I'm using Feisty, and when fetching updates, it accuses an error on Release GPG.
[06:36] <faires> Does someone knows what's happening?
[06:36] <jbrouhard> When it's not working, I usually hope it'll kcik in soon enough
[06:36] <raylu> faires, sounds like the repository is insecure or you haven't added the repos' key yet
[06:36] <jbrouhard> when I run pings, it'll go with a couple of 9 to 10msec replies, then drop one, two maybe three, then resume
[06:36] <faires> (And if those 2 facts have something to do with each other
[06:36] <faires> )
[06:37] <raylu> jbrouhard, sounds like a signal strength issue
[06:37] <jbrouhard> could be
[06:37] <jbrouhard> Want me to post my signal notes from iwconfig ?
[06:37] <raylu> do you know how to use the rest of the wireless commands?
[06:37] <jbrouhard> huh.
[06:37] <elite101> what is the oldest os? i just found out i had windows 1.01 !!! lmao my parents bought the pc at a garage sale 386mb HDD
[06:37] <jbrouhard> signal level=-43dBm
[06:37] <dr_willis> I used CP/M ages ago. :)
[06:37] <gustavo__> hello
[06:37] <jbrouhard> raylu: not really
[06:38] <jbrouhard> noise level is -44dBm
[06:38] <jbrouhard> not sure why it's that high.
[06:38] <dr_willis> I had a 15mb scsi hd the other day. :)
[06:38] <elite101> wow
[06:38] <faires> raylu: I'm using au.archive.ubuntu.edu
[06:39] <faires> How can I add the repository key?
[06:39] <raylu> jbrouhard, "iwlist scan" and "sudo dhclient eth1" will help
[06:39] <raylu> assuming eth1 is the name of your wireless device
[06:39] <jbrouhard> it is
[06:39] <jbrouhard> i just use sudo iwconfig eth1 essid ESSID
[06:39] <jbrouhard> and then sudo dhclient eth1
[06:39] <jbrouhard> seems to work, as my WAP doesn't broadcast
[06:40] <jbrouhard> it took 11 minutes to download a 10mb file
[06:40] <jbrouhard> that's how screwy the wireless is right now
[06:40] <miles> jbrouhard : try "sudo iwlist eth1 scan" see if your AP shows up
[06:40] <jbrouhard> Gimme a sec
[06:40] <jbrouhard> it does
[06:40] <miles> if you are positive you have the right AP, i always do "sudo ifdown eth1; ifup eth1"
[06:40] <raylu> faires, wget http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg | sudo apt-key add
[06:40] <jbrouhard> Signal and Noise level are both way below
[06:41] <raylu> faires, replace the url with their gpg key
[06:41] <redshadowhero> elite101: Windows 1.01?
[06:41] <redshadowhero> elite101:
[06:41] <elite101> yeah
[06:41] <jbrouhard> Oh, I'm 100% positive i have the right access point :)
[06:41] <elite101> lol
[06:41] <raylu> miles, "dhclient = ifdown/up"
[06:41] <jbrouhard> it's the only one within the area.
[06:41] <miles> really?!
[06:41] <elite101> the paint looks the same in xp
[06:41] <redshadowhero> elite101: The first chapter in a long saga of evil?
[06:41] <raylu> miles, sort of...
[06:41] <miles> o
[06:41] <elite101> lol
[06:41] <jbrouhard> I'm wondering
[06:41] <jbrouhard> if my noise level is the problem..
[06:41] <raylu> miles, i dont think it does the pre-up, up, post-up, pre-down, down, and post-down stuff
[06:41] <jbrouhard> -44dBm ?
[06:41] <elite101> my first pc (obvisously pre-loaded with linux i think the kernel was 0.5? or something)
[06:41] <miles> i throw the ifdown in just to make sure its down
[06:42] <raylu> but....you want it to be up, not down :P
[06:42] <raylu> elite101, i highly doubt that
[06:42] <elite101> lol
[06:42] <ima> hi all
[06:42] <elite101> computer was so old it needed drivers for the hdd lmao
[06:43] <jbrouhard> *sigh*
[06:43] <elite101> well brb going to let the Kubuntu 7.04 downlaod
[06:43] <jbrouhard> i'm thinking the problem's my wireless...
[06:43] <jbrouhard> be right back
[06:43] <ima> is there somebody can help me about how to download YM in kubuntu?
[06:43] <elite101> wait..why didnt they support linux on psp? and only DS?
[06:43] <raylu> wtf ima?
[06:43] <redshadowhero> because ds is better?
[06:43] <raylu> ym = ?
[06:43] <dr_willis> YM?
[06:43] <elite101> no it is 66mhz psp is 333Mhz
[06:43] <miles> elite101 - they do support linux on psp
[06:43] <ima> I dont understand about linux
[06:44] <elite101> where?
[06:44] <elite101> i wanna get it
[06:44] <ima> yes, Yahoo Messanger
[06:44] <miles> my understanding is psp is actually easier to get linux on
[06:44] <elite101> yes
[06:44] <faires> raylu: ok, it worked, thanks a lot! :)
[06:44] <elite101> lol but they programmed it to the ds?
[06:44] <ima> yes
[06:44] <miles> i dont think so?
[06:44] <dr_willis> ima,  it pays to be very clear on irc.  - there are Chat clients that can do Yahoo Messenger chat under linux.
[06:44] <dr_willis> ima,  i do think the official Yahoomessenger client for linux is VERY VERY old and out of date.
[06:44] <dr_willis> !im
[06:44] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[06:45] <miles> o i didnt know gaim was gnome...
[06:45] <dr_willis> I dont know what clients do what services any more. so good luck. :)
[06:45] <dr_willis> Gaim has also been renamed to Pidgen I think
[06:45] <dr_willis> !pidgen
[06:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pidgen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:45] <ima> but I usually use YM to chat to all my friends and suppliers
[06:45] <elite101> i wish i can get kubuntu 6.06.1 running on psp with a 4gb memstick or wait? DSL linux would run good only needs 10mb of ram at the most
[06:45] <dr_willis> ima,  you need a client that can do 'ym' then.
[06:45] <elite101> anyways brb
[06:45] <ima> hmmm..
[06:46] <dr_willis> Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM
[06:46] <dr_willis> those 2 seem to support it.
[06:46] <elite101> use kopete even supports webcame
[06:46] <ima> ok, thanks dr willis
[06:46] <dr_willis> You dont want to know what i think of webcams...
[06:46] <dr_willis> :)
[06:46] <miles> i wish they would have skype integrated with one
[06:46] <dr_willis> its a faimly channel.
[06:46] <elite101> lol
[06:46] <redshadowhero> actually
[06:47] <elite101> why do u think i suggested it?
[06:47] <elite101> lmao
[06:47] <redshadowhero> I might, tell me about webcams, dr_willis
[06:47] <leuz> does anyone can help me, change my bootscreen
[06:47] <elite101> thats why i think they sell webcams lol just the name sounds dirty but anways
[06:47] <dr_willis> ive never understood the logic of people 'texting messages' on phones designed for voice chatting.. THEN people 'voice chatting' on programs designed for text messaging...
[06:47] <dr_willis> !splash
[06:47] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[06:47] <dr_willis> !usplash
[06:47] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[06:48] <jbrouhard> Okay
[06:48] <jbrouhard> how do I caonfigure knetworkmanager to force my wireless to use the correct channel ?
[06:48] <leuz> ubotu, how about in kde
[06:48] <dr_willis> !bot
[06:48] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:49] <elite101> all knowing?
[06:49] <faires> !porn
[06:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about porn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:50] <faires> elite101: maybe he's overestimating himself... ;)
[06:50] <leuz> how can i change my bootscreen in kubuntu?
[06:50] <redshadowhero> !splash | leuz
[06:50] <ubotu> leuz: To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[06:50] <redshadowhero> is that what you are looking for?
[06:50] <redshadowhero> wait...
[06:51] <redshadowhero> that is in gnome...
[06:51] <wolferine> anyone use x-sys for xchat?
[06:51] <wolferine> how do you get it to work?
[06:51] <leuz> how about in kde
[06:51] <dr_willis> install it.. and it worked.. :)
[06:51] <wolferine> dr_willis, me?
[06:51] <miles> !miles is sweet
[06:52] <dr_willis> wolferine,  yes.. ive insgtalled it.. and it works.. dident have to tweak nothing
[06:52] <redshadowhero> he doesn't even answer to that one, miles
[06:52] <redshadowhero> you must be pretty bad.
[06:52] <wolferine> dr_willis, reconnect?
[06:52] <miles> yea i wonder why
[06:52] <wolferine> and how do you use commands? /sysinfo ?
[06:52] <dr_willis> wolferine,  it does startup when xchat starts.. ive never told it to do so.  if you just installed it and xchat is running.. well you might want to quit/restart xchat
[06:53] <wolferine> yeah
[06:53] <wolferine> i cannot see why it would work without a restart
[06:53] <wolferine> now, how do you execute commands?
[06:53] <dr_willis> run it manually then and see
[06:53] <dr_willis> :)
[06:53] <wolferine> just place the / in front?
[06:53] <miles> im downloading bitchx, i have high expectations for this based on its name
[06:54] <dr_willis> wolferine,  no idea. i dont know what the command is for it.
[06:54] <dr_willis> wolferine,  since its a kde panel applet thing.. im guessing its a program launched by xchat when it starts
[06:54] <wolferine> oh
[06:54] <miles_> miles, you are sweet
[06:54] <miles> thanks guy
[06:54] <Mez> whats a good graphical HTML editor
[06:54] <robotgeek> Mez: Quanta?
[06:55] <dr_willis> xchat-xsys - x-chat plugin that can display your current system statistic
[06:55] <Mez> robotgeek, never heard of it
[06:55] <Mez> I remember nvu tho
[06:55] <robotgeek> !info quanta
[06:55] <ubotu> quanta: web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2382 kB, installed size 5728 kB
[06:55] <Mez> I just cant be arsd to manually code the tables
[06:55] <wolferine> dr_willis, I dont see it anywhere
[06:55] <miles_> exit
[06:55] <dr_willis> wolferine,  thats why i said restart xchat
[06:56] <miles> that was sweet
[06:56] <wolferine> right
[06:56] <dr_willis> or check  in konqueror -------->   apt:/show?xchat-xsys
[06:56] <wolferine> have to let my dl finish first :)
[06:56] <dr_willis> Oh wait.. thats totally wrong package..
[06:56] <dr_willis> Hmm
[06:57] <wolferine> nice
[06:57] <dr_willis> Im thinking of the xcaht system tray thing that flashes when you get a message
[06:57] <wolferine> thats what I just installed
[06:57] <wolferine> yeah, i have had that a long time
[06:58] <dr_willis>    /usr/share/doc/xchat-xsys
[06:59] <dr_willis> :) it pays to read the docs.
[06:59] <wolferine> yeah
[06:59] <wolferine> reading now
[06:59] <dr_willis> cool         apt:/show?xchat-xsys   - even links to the Docs! :)
[07:00] <dr_willis> and yes. it does seem you have to restart xchat
[07:01] <dr_willis> uless ya know how to load   xsys-2.0.9.so    from the client manually :)
[07:02] <dr_willis> and its not /load xsys-2.0.9.so
[07:02] <dr_willis> :) just tried that
[07:10] <wolferine> yeah
[07:10] <wolferine> ill just restart xchat
[07:10] <wolferine> and give it a once over, then zzzz
[07:21] <spade89> hey guys is it possible to add a xfce desktop ontop of kubuntu?
[07:22] <spade89> hey guys is it possible to add a xfce desktop ontop of kubuntu?
[07:22] <stdin> echo?
[07:23] <stdin> !xfce | spade89
[07:23] <ubotu> spade89: xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[07:23] <spade89> i know
[07:23] <spade89> but is it possible to install xfce on kubuntu,or is it out of question
[07:23] <spade89> i don't want to download xubuntu
[07:24] <stdin> spade89: if you read what ubotu says you'd know the answer is yes and be on the way to doing it "To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". "
[07:26] <spade89> thanks
[07:26] <stdin> :)
[07:26] <wolferine> how can I track the current speed on my eth0 ?
[07:26] <wolferine> upload and download?
[07:27] <stdin> wolferine: there are a couple ways, the one I use is "knetload"
[07:27] <wolferine> as su ?
[07:27] <stdin> no, as normal user
[07:27] <stdin> it's goes in kicker
[07:28] <stdin> !info kentload
[07:28] <ubotu> Package kentload does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:28] <theholiz> there are some nice karamba themes for it too
[07:28] <stdin> helps if I spell it
[07:28] <stdin> !info knetload
[07:28] <ubotu> knetload: a network meter for Kicker. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3-3build1 (feisty), package size 74 kB, installed size 720 kB
[07:28] <spade89> hi me again
[07:28] <stdin> superkarambe is a bit OTT for network monitoring, but nice for system monitoring
[07:28] <spade89> it says package not found
[07:29] <wolferine> Kicker?
[07:29] <wolferine> i cannot find that package
[07:29] <stdin> wolferine: the big bar at the bottom
[07:29] <wolferine> stdin, im in gnome :) shhhh
[07:29] <stdin> spade89: it's in main, check your sources
[07:30] <spade89> ok
[07:30] <stdin> i'm sure there's a gnome applet too, but I wouldn't know the name of it
[07:30] <theholiz> gkrell, i think, is a good one too
[07:30] <miles> wamp
[07:31] <obf213> is there a calendar app for google calendar?
[07:31] <wolferine> in is for incoming I am assuming?
[07:32] <stdin> one would assume so
[07:32] <robotgeek> obf213: it works with thunderbird (both ways)
[07:33] <robotgeek> conky is nice, for system monitoring!
[07:33] <wolferine> k, this works
[07:33] <wolferine> nice way to monitor
[07:33] <elite101> wow my kubuntu downloaded 658mb.iso on like 2hours lol
[07:33] <wolferine> well, I am off to sleep nite ppl
[07:33] <elite101> on a bit download
[07:34] <elite101> good night i am going to sleep now lol
[07:38] <redshadowhero> *tumble weed blows by*
[07:39] <bauer> hey try to install zattoo program , but get this Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libgtklext1
[07:40] <stdin> install how? apt-get?
[07:41] <ice9> freakin' germans
[07:41] <stdin> hmm
[07:53] <interfear> what version of kde does the 7.04 release come with?
[07:57] <stdin> interfear: I think it's 3.5.6, "kde-config --version" will tell you
[07:58] <gandhii> I just partitioned a couple secondary hd's using gparted..  but now in kubuntu..  It won't let me mount them..  what simple basic thing am I ignorant of?
[07:58] <stdin> did you format them yet?
[07:58] <gandhii> i think i did...
[07:58] <gandhii> not sure  ;/
[07:59] <gandhii> did gparted not do that..?
[07:59] <gandhii> it seemed to use the term "format"  ..   but it seemed to happen way to quick to actually format..
[08:00] <gandhii> so..  what program or command do I use to format?
[08:00] <stdin> mkfs = make filesystem
[08:01] <gandhii> hm.. thanks
[08:06] <evil-rhino> hi guys, how do i change my default shell in konsole? chsh didn't help -- konsole is still bringing up bash.
[08:08] <stdin> evil-rhino: settings  configure konsole  Session
[08:09] <dvm> Howto increase the text size of CLIST contents in gtk?
[08:10] <evil-rhino> stdin: yeah, i've changed the shell there as well, for "linux console", and then saved it and saved it again as the default. bash still comes up..
[08:11] <stdin> evil-rhino: make sure "grep $(whoami) /etc/passwd" shows the shell you want
[08:11] <loldongs> DCC SEND LOLDONGSLOLDONGSLOLDONGSLOLDONGS 0 0 0
[08:18] <Solifugus> How can I test to see if my microphone is working?
[08:19] <kalorin`> uh? plug it into a radio and hit record and hum a few bars?
[08:20] <kalorin`> night
[08:21] <mattk> Solifugus you mean on linux? or just in general?
[08:21] <Solifugus> on kubuntu
[08:21] <mattk> apt-get install audacity
[08:21] <mattk> it's the best app in general
[08:21] <Solifugus> nobody can hear me over skype.. but i hear them...
[08:22] <Solifugus> what is audacity?
[08:22] <mattk> audio editing sfotware
[08:22] <ShockValue> anyone know how i can get the Levenshtein lib installed for python?
[08:22] <mattk> have you tried the skype echo test?
[08:22] <ShockValue> i cant find it in synaptic or aptitude
[08:22] <mattk> try calling echo123 and you can test the mic that way too
[08:26] <Solifugus> mattk: cool.. i will try that.
[08:28] <Solifugus> mattk: ok.. it is clear that my mic is not working for some reason.
[08:29] <Solifugus> I haven't used it since before I installed feisty fawn...  so i presume it just hasn't worked and i don't know why not.
[08:31] <mattk> umm, ok first things first, lets check a couple of things
[08:31] <mattk> volumes in kmix?
[08:31] <mattk> and then also in alsamixer.. just to be sure to be sure
[08:39] <Solifugus> in kmix, is it the "input" tab.. and should they be slid up ... or down?
[08:39] <mattk> up
[08:40] <Solifugus> ok.. they are up.. but i tried that earlier and it wasn't enough... let me try alsamixer
[08:41] <Solifugus> i don't appear to have a program called alsamixer
[08:41] <mattk> umm... yeah it might not be installed by default
[08:41] <sugus13> hi
[08:42] <sugus13> anyone here with good experience with ssh? and htc hopefully too :P
[08:42] <mattk> on one of my old computers, I had a SB Live card, and it had lots of channels and switches, and the first time I got it working was through alsamixer
[08:42] <mattk> but you should have all the same options in kmix
[08:42] <sugus13> my problem is: it seems that my server only allows me to conect once at a time!
[08:42] <Solifugus> mattk: maybe its a kernel issue
[08:42] <sugus13> (it's my home pc, I have root access)
[08:42] <mattk> umm.... what sound card do you have?
[08:44] <mattk> Solifugus type cat /proc/asound/cards
[08:44] <Solifugus> mattk: intel 82801G
[08:44] <Solifugus> mattk: according to lspci
[08:46] <Solifugus> mattk: first line of /proc/asound/cards is: 0 [Intel          ] : HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
[08:46] <Solifugus> second line is: HDA Intel at 0xd2400000 irq 22
[08:47] <mattk> Solifugus  afaik they are supposed to be well supported
[08:47] <Solifugus> then i wonder what's wrong
[08:47] <mattk> umm... actually, my old work computer had a problem with that module and the mic, and I downloaded the latest alsa modules and it worked perfectly... but that was about 2 years ago, so I wouldn't think that would be a problem
[08:48] <mattk> Solifugus but it's always an option,... you can go to http://www.alsa-project.org/ and get the latest drivers.
[08:50] <mattk> Solifugus also this has been useful to me in the past http://www.alsa-project.org/~valentyn/Alsa-sound-mini-HOWTO-6.html
[08:50] <Solifugus> do you know what the module name for it is?
[08:50] <mattk> Solifugus no i'm not sure... sorry
[08:52] <jdt> hi, is there a gutsy 7.10 channel?
[08:52] <Solifugus> mattk: ok.. well.. thanks for the references.. i will see what i can do from here... thanks many times over..
[08:52] <pag> jdt, #ubuntu+1
[08:52] <jdt> pah: thankyou..
[08:52] <mattk> Solifugus no problems
[09:00] <steveo1> i have and Nvidia card with a video out jack and the Nvidia TVi out program, but it doesn't work, any suggestions?
[09:17] <mula> hello... anyone know how to install Moodle on kubuntu?
[09:17] <sammy> egads. if anyone was kind enough to respond or had any ideas, I missed them :P
[09:18] <ice9> what package to I search for to get libswt? I need it for guitartux
[09:19] <pag> ice9, libswt3.2-gtk-java maybe?
[09:19] <sammy> I'm looking at network manager on a feisty fawn 7.04 cd and it's got a nicelist of ssids in range, and when you select one that is wpa2, it recognizes that.
[09:19] <sammy> now the one I have on this other computer with kubuntu installed wont show me the listof wireless networks at all.
[09:19] <pag> !info moodle | mulaa
[09:19] <ubotu> mulaa: moodle: Course Management System for Online Learning. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.3-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 6378 kB, installed size 35064 kB
[09:20] <mulaa> ty pag :)
[09:21] <pag> np
[09:21] <mulaa> btw... i`ll be able to use it only with ubuntu
[09:21] <mulaa> ?
[09:21] <LordLladar> What ist he best software for playing with the desktop effects in Kubuntu?
[09:21] <LordLladar> *is
[09:21] <pag> mulaa, what do you mean?
[09:21] <mulaa> pag: it says 1.6.3-2ubuntu1
[09:21] <mulaa> not Kubuntu
[09:22] <mulaa> btw, i`m running the live cd now... i went here to check if Moodle is avaible... i am about to make some tests, but i`m a newbie :)
[09:22] <pag> mulaa, you can run it on kubuntu too
[09:22] <LordLladar> What program is best for the kubuntu 3d environment. (example. Beryl)
[09:23] <pag> mulaa, ubuntu and kubuntu differ only in default packages
[09:23] <mulaa> yep.. .but i must download it from moodle`s website, right?
[09:23] <pag> LordLladar, compiz fusion maybe?
[09:23] <LordLladar> Thank you.
[09:23] <pag> mulaa, no.. you can install it with apt-get / adept
[09:23] <mulaa> nothing found on adept :(
[09:24] <kraut> moin
[09:24] <pag> mulaa, it's in Universe, and I'm not sure if that's enabled by default
[09:24] <mulaa> on adept i searched for "moodle"... nothing found
[09:24] <LordLladar>  resolution. ...
[09:24] <LordLladar> lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-February/075512.html - 4k - Cached - Similar pages
[09:24] <LordLladar> X11 Configuration
[09:24] <LordLladar> Xorg -configure. This will generate an X11 configuration skeleton file in the /root directory called xorg.conf.new (whether you su(1) or do a direct login ...
[09:24] <LordLladar> www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html - 17k - Cached - Similar pages
[09:24] <LordLladar> BSD Guides :: Doing Stuff With FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, & Mac OS X
[09:24] <LordLladar> Installing and Configuring X.org and KDE Updated: 12/18/2006. General Information. This guide demonstrates the ease of installing Xorg and KDE on FreeBSD ...
[09:24] <LordLladar> www.bsdguides.org/guides/freebsd/beginners/xorg_kde.php - 36k - Cached - Similar pages
[09:24] <LordLladar> o.o omg, sorry.  That is weird.
[09:24] <LordLladar> I shall leave now.
[09:26] <mulaa> okk... anyway, ty.. i`ll try it this morning
[09:26] <mulaa> bb pag ty
[09:37] <Prophezy> Morning ladies!
[09:41] <Prophezy> does anyone know why, my firefox dont start, its just stand and loading for about 20 seconds and then disappear
[09:49] <sveweck> Hello. After a cold reboot startx fails with "Could not init font path element blah, removing from list!" "Waiting for X server to shut down FreeFontPath blah" "refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing"
[09:49] <sveweck> I would much appreciate help :)
[10:12] <dragon_> hello :-) can anyone here tell me how to stop apt-get from telling me a package is "Broken" when its not?
[10:18] <Prophezy> hmm...wierd....everything is gone... when i restarted my computer... my pics, my programs, my my my...soul is GONE!
[10:18] <Prophezy> why why why why
[10:20] <arun> hey kids
[10:20] <jussi01> dragon_: have you tried sudo apt-get install -f
[10:21] <bauer> jvm ? my firefox mozilla claims that i am missing JVM. I cant figure how to install it. It says i have to do it manually
[10:22] <dragon_> yes i have tryed tht and it removes it
[10:22] <dragon_> but i dont want to remove it because its working propperly
[10:22] <jussi01> dragon_: somethis broken in it, you need to find out what. which package is it?
[10:23] <dragon_> kopete desklist plugin
[10:24] <dragon_> but its working perfectly the only thing it diagrees with is the versions of dependencys (thats why its saying its broken)  even tho it still works
[10:24] <jussi01> hmmm, is it a genuine package? from the repos?
[10:25] <jussi01> if so file a bug
[10:25] <arunkale> anyone here use python?
[10:25] <jussi01> arunkale: most of us, whats up
[10:26] <arunkale> i have been learning php for quite some time, i was wondering which language was better in your view for developing web-based applications and why
[10:28] <jussi01> arunkale: they both have their strengths. prpbably best to hop into a non support channel to ask that though.
[10:28] <arunkale> alright, sorry
[10:38] <jussi01> hmmm, someone remind me how to make my 2 kubuntu pcs see each other...
[11:10] <Deborah> Xx_kitten_xX@msn.com
[11:20] <zibert>  
[11:21] <pag> !ru | zibert
[11:21] <ubotu> zibert:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[11:31] <kanpachi> hello, can anyone please tell me what's the command i should run in konsole to run adept? plain adept just won't do, plus i get a bunch of errors :(
[11:32] <pag> kanpachi, what kind of errors?
[11:32] <kanpachi> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 157
[11:32] <kanpachi>   Major opcode:  146
[11:33] <kanpachi>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:33] <pag> !baddevice | kanpachi
[11:33] <ubotu> kanpachi: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[11:33] <kanpachi>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:33] <kanpachi> Failed to open device
[11:33] <kanpachi> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 157
[11:33] <kanpachi>   Major opcode:  146
[11:33] <kanpachi>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:33] <kanpachi>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:33] <kanpachi> Failed to open device
[11:33] <kanpachi> sorry for spamming
[11:33] <kanpachi> thanx
[11:33] <kanpachi> now how do i run adept please? i accidently removed it from the K menu :(
[11:33] <kanpachi> silly me
[11:34] <pag> kdesu adept_manager
[11:34] <shalrath> alt-f2 and type adept_manager
[11:34] <kanpachi> oh thanx
[11:34] <kanpachi> sometimes it justs shows like it's loading it, but it won't show :(
[11:36] <kanpachi> thanx it works :)
[11:41] <kuwanger> I have a small problem on startup.  Specifically, once I login, there's a junk icon-like graphic that hangs around in the top-left corner of the screen.
[11:43] <pag> kuwanger, are you using beryl / compiz?
[11:43] <kuwanger> pag: No.
[11:46] <kuwanger> Further, running something like Heroes will cause the problem to resolve itself.  I'm lead to believe that this is somehow related to changing the default mouse cursor.  Either that or that it's related to my graphics card somehow.
[11:47] <steev> how do i connect to my buddies macbook (he is in my room using my internet connection)
[11:48] <steev> anyone?
[11:48] <jussi01> !samba
[11:48] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:49] <jussi01> steev: you can use samba fr macs also
[11:50] <steev> sudo apt-get install samba?
[11:50] <jussi01> steev: and smbfs
[11:50] <jussi01> so: sudo apt-get install samba smbfs
[11:51] <kaminix> Why do you use apt-get and not aptitude?
[11:53] <steev> i dont know, should i?
[11:53] <Level15> hi there. i'm having issues partitioning my HD. I have a few unallocated cylinders, but fdisk refuses to use them (it takes me directly to other sector of the disk, which is not the one i want to use). If i try to tell it to use the sectors i want, it says that the value is out of range... see http://pastebin.com/m3567b9c1 any ideas?
[11:54] <steev> how do i open samba
[11:55] <TheGateKeeper> steev: system settings --> sharing ??
[11:55] <Level15> steev: you don't "open" samba... you use it's services or whatever, in a different way depending on what you are trying to do. what are you trying to do?
[11:56] <steev> my buddy has a macbook and i want to transfer music onto it from my computer
[11:56] <Level15> anyone with my fdisk issue?
[11:56] <Level15> steev: is your friend's macbook running ssh server? if so, i think it will be way easier to transfer files using sftp/scp instead of samba
[11:57] <kuwanger> I'll be back later, perhaps with more information to my problem. :/
[11:57] <Level15> BTOH, you might want too try #macosx or however it's called
[11:57] <steev> im not sure how do i figure that out
[11:57] <Level15> *to
[11:58] <steev> he has a wireless card and is running of my internet connection to use the net
[11:58] <Level15> ask him if he is running it... he should know, i think
[12:00] <steev> he wouldn't, he just got the macbook and isn't computer friendly
[12:00] <grul> steev, go to Sharing in System Preferences and click the checkbox for SSH :)
[12:00] <Level15> so no ideas on my fdisk issue?
[12:00] <Level15> steev: maybe you and your friend should try #macosx ...
[12:01] <Level15> i mean, your question is kind of offtopic here
[12:03] <steev> i dont see that SSH checkbox
[12:03] <vbhide> does anyone know how to change the output device on amarok
[12:06] <kaminix> Preparing to replace ktorrent 2.2-0ubuntu1~feisty1 (using .../ktorrent_2.2-0ubuntu2~feisty1_i386.deb) ...
[12:06] <kaminix> What's the diffierence?
[12:06] <vbhide> my usb speakers are being detected and are loaded as /dev/dsp1.... even tested them with some bash command
[12:10] <jussi01> kaminix: its a new revision, see the change log
[12:10] <jussi01> the first is ubuntu1 and the next is ubuntu2
[12:10] <kaminix> Where do I find the changelog? I mean, the source code is still the same, isn't it?
[12:12] <jussi01> kaminix: no, the source is different. it may be a tiny chang, probably to the debian packaging
[12:14] <kaminix> Ah, it's the ubuntu teams altered source?
[12:18] <grul> !mouse
[12:18] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[12:19] <bjwebb> how do i clear most used apps?
[12:21] <mankeletor> hey guys
[12:22] <bjwebb> how do i clear most used apps?
[12:26] <vbhide> what do u mean by clear bjwebb?
[12:26] <bjwebb> get rid off stuff, so it starts again
[12:27] <vbhide> sorry bjwebb
[12:28] <Apollo1> I think, bjwebb means the "most used applications" menu in KDE
[12:29] <bjwebb> yup
[12:29] <bjwebb> sorry, im trying to play frozen bubble whilst asking qs
[12:30] <bandan> hey all
[12:30] <bandan> I NEED HELP
[12:30] <bjwebb> bandan: WITH WHAT
[12:30] <bandan> i want to mount my windows to kubuntu
[12:30] <whyhankee> bjwebb: check .kde/share/config/kickerrc
[12:30] <bjwebb> whyhankee: kk
[12:30] <bandan> for tht i am following instructions as given in ubuntu documentation
[12:30] <Apollo1> bandan: is the WIN partition in /media/ ?
[12:31] <bandan> but i am nt allowed to change the contents of /etc/fstab which is needed
[12:31] <bandan> its not there in /media
[12:31] <Apollo1> are you root?
[12:31] <Apollo1> as in "sudo <command>" ?
[12:31] <pag> bandan, kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[12:31] <bandan> nopes
[12:31] <bandan> wait lemme try
[12:31] <pag> bandan, or sudo nano /etc/fstab  if you prefer CLI
[12:32] <Apollo1> pag: what's the difference between kdesu and su?
[12:32] <pag> !kdesu | Apollo1
[12:32] <ubotu> Apollo1: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[12:32] <Apollo1> oh
[12:32] <Apollo1> ty
[12:32] <bandan> 1 more thing
[12:32] <Apollo1> I always used su
[12:32] <Apollo1> in KDE
[12:32] <Apollo1> :S
[12:33] <bandan> my fstab looks quite different from what is given in the tutorial i am following
[12:33] <bandan> moreover as per the tutorial my sda1 should be there in /media but its not there
[12:34] <pag> bandan, fstab is adapted to your HD partitions - And they usually are different than the ones in ezample
[12:34] <pag> example even :)
[12:34] <bandan> k
[12:34] <bandan> i have made backup of my fstab in /home
[12:34] <bandan> i hope nothing would happen to the system even if i wrongly edit it
[12:49] <arunkale> anyone know what the colours in the kate sidebar signify
[12:49] <arunkale> as in the different shades of blue
[12:49] <arunkale> for different files
[12:50] <Riddell> how long it has been since editing the file
[12:51] <Riddell> or maybe viewing it
[12:51] <Riddell> I've never made any useful sense out of them
[12:58] <m_> do anyone know the code to get ubuntu?
[01:08] <Bucat> program like reconstructor for kubuntu ?
[01:09] <Bucat> m_ sudo apt-get install gnome
[01:11] <mumificpjetao> one anybody here?
[01:16] <sveweck> mumificpjetao: 340 people, yes.
[01:18] <jussi01> !ask | mumificpjetao
[01:18] <ubotu> mumificpjetao: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:23] <chichovoto6> what is the release date for gutsy?
[01:25] <pag> !gutsy | chichovoto6
[01:25] <ubotu> chichovoto6: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[01:25] <chichovoto6> thanks
[01:46] <feierfox> hello
[01:46] <feierfox> i need an easy to use GUI encryption-tool
[01:46] <feierfox> i want to encrypt whole folders
[01:46] <feierfox> could someone help?
[01:51] <DexterF> hi
[01:52] <DexterF> !fonts
[01:52] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[01:52] <DexterF> mpf
[01:52] <DexterF> how do I change the font hinting settings for gtk2 apps in kubuntu?
[01:52] <DexterF> !gtk
[01:52] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[01:52] <DexterF> !gtk2
[01:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtk2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <snowmiss> hello
[02:08] <krzysiek> hi
[02:10] <eagles0513875> hey
[02:11] <krzysiek> i have TV card AverMedia TVCapture on tuner TEMIC 4012 FY5. Chipset bt848 and i can't find channels
[02:11] <jussi01> !mythtv
[02:11] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[02:11] <jussi01> are you using that?
[02:12] <krzysiek> no
[02:12] <jussi01> might be worth a try
[02:12] <krzysiek> i have tvtime and xawtv
[02:13] <eagles0513875> jussi01: would democracy work too for that
[02:14] <jussi01> eagles0513875: i dont tthink so
[02:14] <eagles0513875> jussi01: for me democracy is still busted but then again i am using gutsy lol and i know im in the wrong channel
[02:32] <TheGateKeeper> !fstab
[02:32] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[02:36] <mumificpjetao> !Partitions
[02:36] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:38] <manu_> hi
[02:46] <Blu3-knibbles> ugg, i swear, networkmanager is far from painless, it's more trouble than it is worth lately.  it's impossibly gone mental, like an alzheimer's patient
[02:50] <cap|com> hi. is there a tool i can use to read files from a trueimage image file without installing trueimage (if this even exists for linux, although the boot-disk works with linux as well)?
[02:51] <cap|com> or can i somehow mount it like an iso file?
[02:55] <puppetmaster> hello everyone
[02:56] <BluesKaj> cap|com, try VLC for media img files
[02:56] <puppetmaster> I just installed kubuntu 7.04 and i can't log on to the root account
[02:56] <puppetmaster>  I entered su command in the consol
[02:56] <krzysiek> use "sudo"
[02:56] <puppetmaster> & i entered the password put he give me a fail command
[02:57] <puppetmaster> i know sudo tool it's great
[02:57] <krzysiek> on default settings you cant login root
[02:57] <BluesKaj> cap|com, Kiso,or acetoneiso might work too
[02:57] <puppetmaster> but i wanna know why
[02:57] <puppetmaster> i want to logon through consol
[02:57] <R> Hi everyone, does someone know a mount program for kubuntu like daemon in windows?
[02:58] <puppetmaster> ya
[02:58] <jussi01> !mount
[02:58] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:58] <puppetmaster> try searching in www.kde-app.org
[02:58] <jussi01> hmmm, not so helpful
[02:58] <R> k thanks
[02:58] <puppetmaster> there is a great program it starts with ap
[02:59] <BluesKaj> R,or you could try this in the konsole ' mount -t iso9660 myimage.iso /mnt/cdrom -o loop '
[03:00] <R> not so familiar with the terminal yet, but i guess i have to learn :)
[03:01] <dale> Does wmare support 3d?
[03:01] <manu_> my prints are alwys horizontal not vertical as in the preview in firefox e.g. for din a4 somone can help?
[03:02] <manu_> the preview shows my wished output but the printer cuts the picture and prints horizontaly
[03:12] <mumificpjetao> !Kubuntu
[03:12] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[03:20] <manu_> mumificpjetao: yeah im in this channel? oO
[03:37] <tzanger> okay I have more data on my Kopete 100% CPU/Mem usage
[03:38] <tzanger> it seems with kopete chat windows open (MSN in my case), certain file ops cause it to consume all memory before calming back down
[03:38] <tzanger> it isn't kontact related
[03:38] <tzanger> kontact's just triggering it
[03:38] <tzanger> konqueror's web page archival triggers it too
[03:38] <tzanger> i.e. msn cht window open, archive a web page, kopete goes nuts
[03:38] <tzanger> consumes all CPU and memory
[03:38] <tzanger> then about a minute later releases all the RAM and settles back down
[03:39] <arun> when you enable shadows, they seem to apply to the bouncing icon as well, when you launch programs. is there any way the shadows can be disabled for the bouncing icons?
[03:41] <mumificpjetao> !Kontact
[03:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kontact - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:41] <tzanger> this is completely repeatable
[03:42] <jussi01> !bug
[03:42] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[03:43] <arun> anyone?
[03:45] <eagles0513875> arun: whats the problem
[03:45] <arun> when you enable shadows, they seem to apply to the bouncing icon as well, when you launch programs. is there any way the shadows can be disabled for the bouncing icons?
[03:46] <eagles0513875> arun: im guessing ur using beryl or compiz
[03:47] <arun> eagles0513875: nope
[03:47] <sveweck> Hi. The option to delete an unmounted ext3 partition in qtparted is grayed out. Any idea why?
[03:47] <eagles0513875> sveweck: type this in the command line
[03:48] <eagles0513875> sveweck: type in sudo qtparted u have to have root privilediges
[03:48] <sveweck> eagles0513875: yes, of course I did that ;)
[03:48] <eagles0513875> sveweck: still didnt work
[03:48] <c2c2rock> hey there the Not Found or 404 Error pages where are they found Can anybuddy tell me or should i goto #apache2 lol Apache/2.2.3 Server at c2c2c.ca Port 80
[03:48] <sveweck> eagles0513875: yes. however, deleting a swap partition worked fine
[03:49] <eagles0513875> sveweck: if worse comes to worse try booting off the live cd and use the partition manager on the live cd
[03:49] <eagles0513875> c2c2rock: try apache2 room lol
[03:49] <sveweck> eagles0513875: ok
[03:50] <eagles0513875> arun: open up system settings and look under appearance not sure exactly where but it might be in there
[03:51] <arun> eagles: it isn't
[03:51] <arun> thanks anyway
[03:51] <arun> :)
[03:51] <eagles0513875> arun: sry i couldnt be of any more help
[03:52] <arun> it's alright
[03:52] <arun> i killed the shadows
[03:52] <eagles0513875> :)
[03:52] <eagles0513875> arun: did u kill them for good or will they be back next reboot
[03:52] <arun> i killed them
[03:52] <arun> i dont want any shadows.. they seem a bit buggy
[03:53] <arun> for some stuff the shadow appears before the window, and it's a bit odd
[03:53] <miles> so why would sony allow people to installl linux on the ps3 but then lock out the nvidia card to development?
[03:54] <arun> i want to find some really good window decorations and styles
[03:54] <eagles0513875> !offtopic
[03:54] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:55] <arun> like i dont particularly like the os x window decorations and glossy buttons and scroll bars, but stuff on that looks sharp and clean. window decorations (or small things like loading bars, buttons, etc) in kubuntu or other linux systems seem to have 'rough edges'
[03:55] <arun> i'm not saying it's a huge deal, i still love kubuntu
[03:55] <arun> but would be nice to have a clean, smooth, polished windeco
[03:56] <eagles0513875> arun: u shoudl try beryl or the new compiz fusion
[03:56] <eagles0513875> ull have a blast with that
[03:56] <arun> i did, but i'm not talking about effects or anything
[03:58] <kaminix> The following packages have been kept back:
[03:58] <kaminix>   mplayer
[03:59] <kaminix> How do I make it not want to update mplayer?
[03:59] <eagles0513875> kaminix: just do sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:59] <kaminix> I have my own svn compiled version.
[03:59] <arun> eagles: talking about curves, and simple styles and stuff which should be taken for granted as not as polished as styles on os x
[03:59] <kaminix> But I don't want the repository version, eagles0513875.
[04:00] <kaminix> I want it to stop bugg me about it.
[04:00] <eagles0513875> arun: ya havent played round much with that kinda stuff
[04:00] <eagles0513875> kaminix: im no help there then
[04:01] <kaminix> :(
[04:02] <gizzrad> i installed the apple2 mac os x emulator and it doesn't seem to be working any suggestions
[04:02] <eagles0513875> kaminix: have u searched throught eh wikis
[04:03] <gizzrad> what is that?
[04:04] <kaminix> Nope. I'll try that if no one in #ubuntu knows either. :s
[04:06] <eagles0513875> gizzrad: whats what gizzrad
[04:06] <kaminix> Kamikaze Girls on download :)
[04:07] <gizzrad> ignore that comment, sorry
[04:07] <gizzrad> are you familiar with the apple2 emulator??
[04:07] <kaminix> Wrong channel, damnit..
[04:08] <eagles0513875> gizzrad: no im not like i said try the wikis
[04:09] <gizzrad> oh i didnt know that comment was directed to me
[04:09] <gizzrad> well then yeah what is wikis
[04:09] <eagles0513875> wiki lol like wikipedia but in this case go to the kubuntu website
[04:10] <labrat265> good morning everyone.  i am hoping to get some help.  i've downloaded a cd via bittorrent, but the files are all apple lossless.  i couldn't get krb to burn apple lossless files so i downloaded all of the medibuntu stuff.  i still cannot get k3b to burn those files, is there another way?
[04:11] <BluesKaj> kaminix, what's different about your version of mplayer, if any ?
[04:11] <BluesKaj> kaminix, i was going to ask eariler but i had to take a call
[04:12] <arun> i tried downloading a theme from kde-look.org, but i only get some text that looks like some settings
[04:12] <arun> how do i install it
[04:13] <eagles0513875> arun: did u get the source
[04:13] <kaminix> BluesKaj: No idea, but I compiled it from svn, and after all that work i deserve to use it ^^
[04:13] <labrat265> is there some program i can get that will let me convert my apple lossless files to mp3 or wave?
[04:13] <arun> eagles: http://www.kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/59541-domino_eternalorangerc
[04:13] <BluesKaj> ok, kaminix , whay did you use the svn version instead of the repos ?
[04:14] <BluesKaj> err why
[04:14] <kaminix> BluesKaj: It seemed like such a good idea at the time... :(
[04:14] <BluesKaj> ok :)
[04:15] <bootmaker> hat jemand hier ahnung von einem samba domaincontroller
[04:15] <BluesKaj> is svn a repos ..sort of , or what ?
[04:15] <kaminix> Well, I've had some things not working with the repo version before and stuff.
[04:15] <kaminix> SVN = Subversion, it's the latest build.
[04:16] <bootmaker> could someone help me with a samba domaincontroller?
[04:16] <arun> how do i install this: http://www.kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/59541-domino_eternalorangerc
[04:17] <eagles0513875> bootmaker: u just trying to setup a samba share
[04:17] <ashlon> can kubuntu run firefox anyone?
[04:17] <eagles0513875> ashlon: yep
[04:17] <eagles0513875> ashlon: onlly browser i use
[04:17] <ashlon> eagles0513875: what would be the command to install that sir?
[04:17] <eagles0513875> ashlon: in the command line type this sudo apt-get install firefox
[04:17] <kaminix> I use swiftfox ^^
[04:18] <eagles0513875> ashlon: r u new to kubuntu
[04:18] <ashlon> eagles0513875: cool, yea I just switched from ubuntu and didin't know if the commands were the same
[04:19] <eagles0513875> ashlon: whats the command in ubuntu pretty much the same as here lol havent really used ubuntu i despise gnome
[04:20] <Azzco> I can't boot my kubuntu installation, grub can't find the kernel it seems
[04:20] <ashlon> eagles0513875: what really made me want to switch is that my tablet worked on the live cd of kubuntu but not the gnome thanks!
[04:20] <wit> hello all,
[04:21] <eagles0513875> ashlon: i hate to say this but kde is so much better developed than gnome. btw do u like double clicking cuz i can show u how to change ur mouse to double clicking if you want me to
[04:21] <wit> i have a laptop in which i cant boot from the cd
[04:21] <wit> is there a way i can still load ubuntu/kubuntu on to it ?
[04:21] <eagles0513875> wit: u mean like a duel boot
[04:22] <Azzco> wit: are you sure that your laptop is set to boot from CD/DVs before Harddrive?
[04:22] <Azzco> DVDs*
[04:23] <wit> n o, i have a damaged cd rom, and an external usb dvd
[04:23] <BluesKaj> !info-svn
[04:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about info-svn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:23] <cap|com> wit: can you boot from an usb device so that you place a netboot iso on a usb stick and boot the installer from that? but please don't ask how exactly, i never did this. i just know that it should be possible
[04:23] <bootmaker> no: my problem is different. i have a samba domaincontroller and the logins works. yesterday is my server crashed because the hd fails. now i have installed on a new hd a new ubuntu server 7.04 and ive installed a samba domaincontroler - then i copied the files from the crashed hd to the new one. ive changed the rights to the new users. the login at the win2k client works
[04:24] <eagles0513875> !xine
[04:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:24] <eagles0513875> !libxine
[04:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libxine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:24] <BluesKaj> !info-xine
[04:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about info-xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:24] <BluesKaj> !xine-info
[04:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine-info - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <bootmaker> but the profiles where not loaded correctly and complete because the background image is not there for example. but the links und files from the desktop are there
[04:25] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: like this:
[04:25] <BluesKaj> strange
[04:25] <jhutchins> !info xine
[04:25] <ubotu> Package xine does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:25] <BluesKaj> ok thx jhutchins
[04:25] <jhutchins> Sometimes it helps to do
[04:25] <jhutchins> !find xine
[04:25] <bootmaker> the keyboardlayout is in english not in german and when i change somethin in the profile its not saved. but it comes no failure too ...
[04:25] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu
[04:25] <ubotu> Found: amarok-xine, gxine, kaffeine-xine, libxcb-xinerama0, libxcb-xinerama0-dbg (and 23 others)
[04:25] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[04:25] <bootmaker> sorry for my bad english
[04:26] <bootmaker> im working on that problem many ours and here in the firm the agents cant work
[04:26] <jhutchins> bootmaker: Did you try #kubuntu-de?
[04:26] <bootmaker> and noby could help me in the german chans
[04:27] <wit> n o, i have a damaged cd rom, and an external usb dvd  - i can not boot from usb, - which is why i am asking if i can load in any other way - for excample from windows
[04:28] <dale> you can boot from usb.
[04:28] <dale> When your computer is boot up from bios
[04:29] <dale> press esc and select the device.
[04:29] <jhutchins> dale: It depends on the motherboard, not all can boot from USB.
[04:30] <jhutchins> dale: Also, the keysequence for the boot menu if any and for the BIOS setup are different on different boards.
[04:30] <jhutchins> wit: Yes, there is a way to install from windows.
[04:30] <jhutchins> !install | wit
[04:31] <ubotu> wit: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[04:31] <eagles0513875> !automate
[04:31] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[04:31] <eagles0513875> !cloning
[04:31] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[04:33] <Azzco> I need some help with getting kubuntu to boot
[04:33] <wit> thanks for the heads up - will check it now
[04:33] <venik> has anyone used the SANE scanner driver with a parallle port scanner, like the old UMAX uc1260?
[04:34] <Azzco> a partition on the second HD in grub should be (hd1,x) right?
[04:34] <wit> jhutchins: i dont quite get it --- type !install | wit from where >?
[04:34] <wit> the cmd prompt in windows ?
[04:34] <dale> this chanel does not appear to be very popular, most of the users are bots.
[04:35] <eagles0513875> dale: only bot in here is ubotu
[04:35] <dale> So how comes like 5% of people here talk?
[04:36] <dale> the rest dont.
[04:36] <eagles0513875> dale: i dunno but u just got to be patient and it could be alot of the people are not at their computers
[04:36] <jhutchins> wit: That was to trigger the bot, ubotu, to tell you about https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[04:36] <BluesKaj> dale ppl call up the ubot with a command abot apps or other utilities with: !application
[04:37] <jhutchins> venik: No, but I don't think the parallel port driver is loaded by default in kubuntu.
[04:37] <wit> does any one actually knows, cuz looking at tyhe documantation, i cant find a way to install if i cant boot from a cd
[04:38] <jhutchins> wit: Gee, how about the section of that doc called "Installation without a CD".
[04:38] <jhutchins> wit: Section 3.
[04:38] <dale> !application
[04:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about application - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:38] <jhutchins> wit: There's even a shortcut to it at the top of the doc.
[04:38] <BluesKaj> venik, I've used sane and kooka with HP3500c scanner on photos but the results were very disappointing ...much too dark no matter how I setup the lighting and colours
[04:39] <BluesKaj> wit do you have windows installed ?
[04:41] <graft> hey, does anyone ever get this strange bug where their sound starts looping incessantly?
[04:41] <incorrect> can i grep for stringA or stringB ?
[04:42] <wit> Bluekaj - yes. i do
[04:43] <rj_> ?
[04:45] <llutz> incorrect: egrep a|b string
[04:47] <aaaaaaaa> aaaaaaa
[04:51] <labrat265> i have just plugged in my external hard drive for the first time, but i cannot figure out how to access it
[04:52] <francisco> hola que tal como estamos
[04:52] <graft> labrat265: did you mount it?
[04:53] <labrat265> how do i do that?
[04:53] <francisco> tengo la version 7.04 de ubuntu, queria saber si puedo restablecer el panel de herramientas original de gnome, o sea, el que instala por defecto
[04:54] <francisco> hola alguien habla espaol
[04:54] <PriceChild> !es | francisco
[04:54] <ubotu> francisco: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:54] <francisco> gracias obotu
[04:54] <graft> labrat265: what sort of drive is it?
[04:55] <labrat265> seagate
[04:55] <graft> no, i mean, SCSI, USB, etc.
[04:55] <labrat265> usb
[04:57] <graft> type 'sudo fdisk -l', see if it lists your drive
[04:59] <graft> labrat265, you give up?
[05:02] <zabadapp> labrat265: what OS are you running? (k)ubuntu should put the drive on the desktop when you connect
[05:04] <ShawnRisk> join #ubuntu
[05:04] <ShawnRisk> sorry about that, I wondering why the CA server which is Canadian is down?
[05:05] <ShawnRisk> trying to do apt-get update yet the CA server fails
[05:05] <jhutchins> zabadapp: "should" being the operative word here.  We've had a lot of people who had problems with hotplugged usb drives.
[05:06] <jhutchins> ShawnRisk: Pick a different one.
[05:06] <ShawnRisk> how?
[05:06] <labrat265> graft, sorry, i was afk.  i'll try that
[05:07] <labrat265> zabadapp:  i am running kubuntu
[05:07] <ShawnRisk> jhutchins: How do I pick another one?
[05:08] <jhutchins> !easysources | ShawnRisk
[05:08] <ubotu> ShawnRisk: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:08] <ShawnRisk> ok
[05:08] <dazjorz> Hi there
[05:08] <dazjorz> I'm having problems with the KDE packages
[05:08] <labrat265> graft: it shows my four hard drive partition, nothing else
[05:08] <dazjorz> There are KDE4 and KDE5 packages, but #kde says there is no KDE 5
[05:09] <dazjorz> Packages like kdelibs5
[05:09] <sparrw> how can i change the font that kpdf uses when it gets it wrong?
[05:09] <jhutchins> dazjorz: That's not kde5, that's kdelibs5.
[05:09] <zabadapp> labrat265: type "lsusb" in a terminal ... does it list you seagate
[05:10] <dazjorz> jhutchins: Why does kde4base depend on kdelibs5 ? =/
[05:10] <jhutchins> dazjorz: Since KDE4 is unstable and only available for testing, I can't tell you specificly, but obviously that's one of the packages that kde4 uses.
[05:11] <jhutchins> that's not kde4libs or kde5libs.
[05:11] <dazjorz> OK
[05:11] <jhutchins> that's kdelibs 5.
[05:11] <dazjorz> I see
[05:11] <jhutchins> dazjorz: So you're a kde developer who's going to test kde4, but you don't know that?
[05:11] <labrat265> zabadapp:  i just tried that and see literally nothing, should it take a while?
[05:11] <Minataku> zabadapp? That seems quite familiar....
[05:12] <dazjorz> jhutchins: no, I went on holiday for three weeks, which seems to have been three weeks too long, since I thought KDE 4 was the current stable and KDE 5 was unstable
[05:12] <dazjorz> but KDE 3 is the current stable, something mixed up in my head, it seems
[05:13] <jhutchins> dazjorz: Well, that can happen to anyone.
[05:13] <jhutchins> dazjorz: Yeah, 3.5.7 is stable and available.
[05:13] <dazjorz> OK, thanks for clearing up
[05:13] <dazjorz> but now ... er
[05:14] <jhutchins> dazjorz: 4 just released alpha 2.
[05:14] <dazjorz> I'm running apt-get -f install since something fucked up pretty well, I'll pastebin what it says
[05:14] <ShawnRisk> what is a server that someone here uses?
[05:14] <ShawnRisk> I use ca.archive.ubuntu.com but not working
[05:15] <dazjorz> jhutchins: http://paster.dazjorz.com/?p=819
[05:15] <genii> ShawnRisk: For canada, use debian.yorku.ca
[05:15] <Matej> cawte pomoze mi nejaky slovak????
[05:15] <ShawnRisk> ok
[05:15] <Matej> Slovak????
[05:15] <mindspin> !sl
[05:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:15] <eagles0513875> !solvak
[05:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about solvak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:15] <genii> ShawnRisk: it might be debian.yorku.ca/ubuntu
[05:15] <eagles0513875> !slovak
[05:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slovak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:15] <ShawnRisk> genii: What do I put in the soruce file?
[05:16] <mindspin> !slowakija
[05:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slowakija - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:16] <ashlon> I have konqueror and firefox, how do I make firefox my default browser anyone?
[05:16] <mindspin> !cz
[05:16] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[05:16] <genii> ShawnRisk: Just do a search and replace for ca.ubuntu.com    with debian.yorku.ca
[05:16] <mindspin> maybe that helps ;-)
[05:16] <ShawnRisk> okay
[05:16] <genii> ShawnRisk:  ca.archive.ubuntu.com    with debian.yorku.ca
[05:16] <Matej> Slovakiaaaaa
[05:16] <genii> forgot "archive " in ther
[05:17] <ShawnRisk> okay
[05:17] <Matej> ????Slovakia????
[05:17] <jhutchins> dazjorz: well, looks like you tried to install kde4 but had problems.  apt-get clean might help.
[05:18] <jhutchins> dazjorz: also apt-get autoremove
[05:18] <ashlon> I have konqueror and firefox, how do I make firefox my default browser anyone?
[05:18] <dazjorz> jhutchins: apt-get clean gave no output, autoremove did: http://paster.dazjorz.com/?p=820
[05:19] <zabadapp> Minataku: it's just something I made up a short while ago ... the name has no history what so ever
[05:19] <Minataku> Are you sure?
[05:19] <boris_> how can I lisen music on amrock, i have just instaled kubuntu
[05:19] <Minataku> Becuase I knew someone with a very similar name...
[05:19] <jussi01> ashlon: same as always, edit, preferences, click the default browser box
[05:19] <Minataku> Said he got it from a password generator
[05:20] <ashlon> jussi01: thanks, i must have had a brain fart this morning
[05:20] <jhutchins> dazjorz: now try -f again.
[05:20] <jussi01> lol
[05:20] <Minataku> Eh... weirder coincidences have occured, I suppose *shrug*
[05:21] <Minataku> zabadapp: Heh, sorry to bother you with all that ^^
[05:22] <boris_> can I lisen it on mp3 player for kubuntu
[05:22] <jhutchins> boris_: What music?  Where?
[05:22] <boris_> www.di.fm
[05:22] <boris_> from thet url
[05:23] <boris_> and mp3,audi does not work
[05:23] <Matej> Slowakiaaaa????
[05:23] <Matej> Slowakia?????
[05:23] <Minataku> !sk
[05:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:23] <jussi01> !sv
[05:23] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[05:24] <jussi01> hmm
[05:24] <rein_> ist da jemand
[05:24] <BluesKaj> !sl
[05:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:24] <jhutchins> boris_: I thought amarok worked with mp3's, when i click one of the buttons i get a box asking if i want to listen to it with amarok.
[05:24] <Minataku> I tried his country code already
[05:24] <Minataku> It's .sk
[05:24] <Minataku> Slovak Republic
[05:24] <BluesKaj> dumb bot
[05:24] <Matej> Minataku pomozes mi?
[05:24] <jhutchins> boris_: If that doesn't work for you, try right-clicking on a local file and select open with ...  amarok, then check the "remember" box.
[05:25] <Minataku> Matej: Sorry, I only speak English, I just looked at the country code on your hostname
[05:25] <Matej> Slowakia help mi
[05:25] <mindspin> !sk
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <Matej> mindspin pomozes?
[05:25] <Minataku> As for channels localized to Slovakia, I don't know if there are any
[05:26] <mindspin> #ubuntu-sk
[05:26] <Matej> ok
[05:26] <mindspin> leads to ubuntu cz
[05:26] <Minataku> Ah
[05:27] <jhutchins> Riddell: Can you add a sk link to the cz factoid?
[05:28] <Riddell> jhutchins: ping me in 20 minutes in #kubuntu-devel, I'm in a meeting just now
[05:30] <ashlon> whats the command to install the latest drivers for nvidia anyone?
[05:30] <BluesKaj> meetings ...bah , hated them ...hardly anything ever gets done at them and I always found it was a way for the powers that be to find out who was creating probs in the company. :)
[05:31] <jhutchins> !nvidia | ashlon
[05:31] <ubotu> ashlon: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:31] <dazjorz> jhutchins: same output
[05:31] <ashlon> ubotu: thanks
[05:31] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[05:32] <jhutchins> dazjorz: all I can suggest at this point is to change your mirrors using easysources.
[05:32] <dazjorz> jhutchins: I'll try to solve myself, see if it works
[05:32] <jhutchins> !botsnack
[05:32] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[05:33] <miles> !find kprintscreen
[05:33] <ubotu> Package/file kprintscreen does not exist in feisty
[05:34] <dazjorz> hah
[05:34] <miles> !find kprint
[05:34] <dazjorz> "Yum! Err, I mean, APT!"
[05:34] <ubotu> Package/file kprint does not exist in feisty
[05:35] <dazjorz>   kdelibs5: Depends: kde4libs-data but it is not going to be installed
[05:35] <dazjorz> jhutchins: I thought kdelibs5 was for KDE 3 ?
[05:36] <dazjorz> brb
[05:36] <jhutchins> dazjorz: Doesn't look like it.
[05:36] <jhutchins> dazjorz: actually, it could be common to both.
[05:36] <jhutchins> !info kdeprint
[05:36] <ubotu> kdeprint: print system for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu20.1 (feisty), package size 1445 kB, installed size 2564 kB
[05:38] <ashlon> I keep finding stuff about ubuntu nvidia drivers to install, anyone have a link for kubuntu? to install nvidia drivers?
[05:38] <kaminix> !info yakuake
[05:38] <ubotu> yakuake: a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 512 kB
[05:41] <rustalot> so how do I check my computer for (the unlikely event of) a virus / spyware / rootkit infection?
[05:42] <jhutchins> rustalot: chkrootkit
[05:42] <llutz> rustalot: rkhunter
[05:43] <jhutchins> !info chkrootkit
[05:43] <ubotu> chkrootkit: Checks for signs of rootkits on the local system. In component main, is optional. Version 0.47-1build1 (feisty), package size 263 kB, installed size 740 kB
[05:43] <jhutchins> !info rkhunter
[05:43] <ubotu> rkhunter: rootkit, backdoor, sniffer and exploit scanner. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.9-3 (feisty), package size 133 kB, installed size 528 kB
[05:43] <jhutchins> I believe that the system rescure CD has one of those available, it's best to boot from a live CD to check.
[05:43] <jhutchins> rustalot: What makes you suspicious?
[05:44] <ShawnRisk> thanks for the debian.yorku.ca server that worked
[05:44] <genii> ShawnRisk: np
[05:44] <rustalot> jhutchins: nothing much, just general paranoia...
[05:44] <ShawnRisk> now I just have to get the other things working
[05:45] <rustalot> jhutchins: after all, better to spend a few minuites checking than to be infected
[05:45] <ShawnRisk> genii: Where do you live?
[05:45] <genii> ShawnRisk: Toronto
[05:45] <ShawnRisk> I live in Toronto but here in Edmonton for the summer
[05:47] <ShawnRisk> You should add the contents of `/usr/share/aclocal/libtool.m4 to 'aclocal.m4'. Which aclocal.m4 file do I add it to or make a new file?
[05:47] <genii> ShawnRisk: I need to take a vacation soon. Likely not to Edmonton tho LOL
[05:47] <ShawnRisk> LOL, Edmonton is a nice place, but I understand Alberta is Alberta
[05:48] <BluesKaj> genii, Manitoulin !
[05:48] <ShawnRisk> that is a nice place, but far
[05:49] <BluesKaj> 12 miles from me , ShawnRisk
[05:49] <ShawnRisk> in the US?
[05:49] <zabadapp> ashlon: start add/remove program, check unsupported and proprietary (uppel right), and search for nvidia .. under "system" you will find Nvidias binary driver
[05:50] <ShawnRisk> anyone know what to do with my problem?
[05:50] <BluesKaj> no, georgian bay
[05:50] <ashlon> zabadapp: thanks!
[05:50] <genii> BluesKaj: I've spent time in Tobermory and Wiarton mainly. Nice up there
[05:50] <ShawnRisk> totally
[05:51] <genii> ShawnRisk: That aclocal thingy, no idea here
[05:51] <BluesKaj> take a ferry ride from tobermory to manitoulin
[05:51] <BluesKaj> 90mins
[05:51] <vengance> hi
[05:51] <ShawnRisk> Do anyone of you people have contacts in Alberta?
[05:51] <c2c2rock>  Could not connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (206.167.141.10), connection timed out
[05:51] <vengance> I have a problem with grub,
[05:51] <genii> BluesKaj: I had to take my diver cert in tobermory
[05:51] <c2c2rock> any idea what to do?
[05:52] <ShawnRisk> c2c2rock: change ca.archive to debian.yorku.ca
[05:52] <vengance> I have reinstalled windows, and I can't fix grub i kubunutu 7.04
[05:52] <vengance> how to fix it
[05:52] <BluesKaj> plenty of dive wrecks off manitoulin , genii
[05:52] <rustalot> hey, so Im trying to do apt-get install chrootkit rkhunter ,but it can't connect to any of the repos
[05:52] <BluesKaj> !grub
[05:52] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:52] <genii> ShawnRisk: My roomie is originally from Calgary but i think he left when a kid to come here
[05:52] <ShawnRisk> that will not help
[05:52] <rustalot> "Could not connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (206.167.141.10), connection timed out"
[05:53] <c2c2rock> ShawnRisk:  if i knew howto change it I would
[05:53] <genii> rustalot: change all  ca.archive.ubuntu.com to debian.yorku.ca  in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:53] <ShawnRisk> genii: You need to tell people how to change ca.archive to debian.yorku
[05:53] <pompellid> hi
[05:54] <BluesKaj> rustalot, same thing here
[05:54] <genii> Seems like the sherbrooke repo is down today
[05:54] <raptorquest> How do I get Kopete to connect to MSN.  I saw an old post that said it had trouble with MSN but I am assuming that has been corrected.
[05:55] <ShawnRisk> :P
[05:55] <sparrw> when opening files with kate from konqueror, it won't try to actually load more than 6 simultaneously, which becomes noticable when each load takes a long time over a networked kioslave resource (like sftp://).  Is that controlled by konqueror or kate or kde in general?  Can it be changed?
[05:55] <rustalot> what's the find/replace command in vim?
[05:56] <dazjorz> [17:36]  <jhutchins> dazjorz: actually, it could be common to both.
[05:56] <dazjorz> jhutchins: so how do I uninstall kde4libs then?
[05:57] <ashlon> zabadapp: when I search under "any suite" it only brings up Nvtv TV Out under Multimedia,  no option for system.  Do I need to add any additional repositories?  I just have a fresh install
[05:58] <zabadapp> raptorquest: there is apparently a problem with knetworkmanager (located in the "systray") ... try to quit it and try to reconnect again
[05:59] <pompellid> I am having difficulty "upgrading" edgy to feisty. is there any place I can read up more?
[05:59] <zabadapp> did you check the checkboxes in the upper right corner ("show unsupported and properitary software") ??
[05:59] <Riddell> jhutchins: pong
[06:00] <zabadapp> ashlon: see above ^^
[06:01] <raptorquest> ok
[06:01] <ashlon> zabadapp: I unchecked proprietyary software but unsupported is checked...
[06:01] <zabadapp> I have both checked
[06:01] <c2c2rock> this yorku address what is the whole thing
[06:01] <zabadapp> ashlon: i have both checked
[06:01] <ashlon> zabadapp: ok that works =)
[06:03] <c2c2rock> genii: You need to tell people how to change ca.archive to debian.yorku
[06:03] <genii> c2c2rock: All ytou need to do is: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list    and replace all times of   ca.archive.ubuntu.com   with debian.yorku.ca   then save and retry for packages
[06:03] <c2c2rock> ty
[06:04] <c2c2rock> root@c2c2c:/home/c2c2rock# apt-get build-dep apache2
[06:04] <c2c2rock> Reading package lists... Done
[06:04] <c2c2rock> Building dependency tree
[06:04] <c2c2rock> Reading state information... Done
[06:04] <c2c2rock> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/debian.yorku.ca_ubuntu_dists_feisty_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[06:04] <Minataku> Say, genii, did you get that package out? (No worries if not)
[06:04] <pompellid> The upgrade wizard loads the distribution upgrade, which fails with "Failed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/dists/edgy/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz 404 Not Found" and the same for Sources.gz. any ideas?
[06:04] <genii> Minataku: Not yet, i been procrastinating actually
[06:05] <Minataku> genii: No worries
[06:05] <genii> c2c2rock: Try first: apt-get update
[06:06] <genii> actually more like sudo apt-get update
[06:06] <ShawnRisk> You should add the contents of `/usr/share/aclocal/libtool.m4 to 'aclocal.m4'. Which aclocal.m4 file do I add it to or make a new file?
[06:08] <genii> c2c2rock: It may be that the york university site does not have main C sources but only packages. I'm pretty sure its a complete repo however
[06:09] <kaminix> where do I find Konversation's media script so that I can edit it?
[06:10] <dazjorz> kaminix: ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/scripts
[06:10] <kaminix> It's local? :o
[06:10] <pompellid> The upgrade wizard loads the distribution upgrade, which fails with "Failed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/dists/edgy/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz 404 Not Found" and the same for ../main/source/Sources.gz. any ideas?
[06:10] <arash> Hi, I have several plugged in headphones/loud speakers, how can I switch to which one I want as active making the sounds, atm Only one is making sound, that's ok with me, but can I decide which one should be active?
[06:11] <jarek_> siemano
[06:11] <c2c2rock> well after changing All of them It WerX ty _
[06:12] <kaminix> I have no scripts folder in  ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/
[06:13] <BluesKaj> genii, when did yorku become repos-source ?
[06:13] <stamen> hi, I have asked about grub repair after installing windows, but the problem is specific with me
[06:13] <genii> BluesKaj: Not sure but they have had repos there since 5.10 at least that i know of
[06:13] <stamen> could anybody help
[06:13] <pag> kaminix, try /usr/share/apps/konversation/scripts/
[06:14] <stamen> on the link which uboto gives I made all what I can, but grun didn't fixed
[06:14] <BluesKaj> genii I changed the .ca repos to yorku in my sources list, and seems to have updated cleanly enuff
[06:14] <genii> BluesKaj:  :)
[06:14] <pompellid> if this is the kind of user support available, may be time to look for another distro
[06:15] <genii> Well, lunchtime here, AFK while i grab food etc
[06:15] <sha384sum> Does anyone know if there is a problem with OOo 2.2 in feisty that causes OOo to crash when opening a spreadsheet?
[06:15] <stamen> it sasy this :
[06:15] <stamen> root@ubuntu:/home# grub-install --root-directory=/media/root /dev/sda
[06:15] <stamen> mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/root/boot': No such file or directory
[06:16] <kaminix> pag: Thanks, found it. :)
[06:16] <stamen> http://pastebin.com/m552049e7
[06:16] <stamen> please help, its urgent
[06:16] <BluesKaj> stamen, don't make root directories in grub
[06:17] <stamen> BluesKaj: ok, but tell me how to fix it then, please
[06:17] <stamen> BluesKaj: It is realy urgent
[06:17] <BluesKaj> stamen, alt+f2 kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:18] <stamen> BluesKaj: I am now on live CD
[06:18] <stamen> BluesKaj: will it work
[06:18] <BluesKaj> trying to open kubuntu or windows?
[06:19] <stamen> BluesKaj: kubuntu ofcourse
[06:19] <ubuntu__> czesc
[06:19] <stamen> BluesKaj: and tryiong to reinstall grub
[06:19] <stamen> BluesKaj: trying*
[06:19] <BluesKaj> !grub
[06:19] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:20] <stamen> BluesKaj: as I said, this links can;t help me
[06:20] <BluesKaj> grub should have auto installed when you installed kubuntu, stamen
[06:20] <pag> stamen, do you know on which partition you have your / -folder?
[06:21] <stamen> pag: yes, its /dev/sda5
[06:22] <pag> stamen, ok.. do you have it mounted atm?
[06:22] <stamen> yes, I mount it on /media/root
[06:22] <stamen> and did chroot to it
[06:22] <pag> exit the chroot
[06:22] <pag> you don't need to iirc
[06:23] <stamen> pag: how
[06:23] <pag> just open new terminal and command: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/root /dev/sda
[06:24] <dazjorz> hmm
[06:24] <pag> (chroot can be exited by typing 'exit')
[06:24] <dazjorz> I wonder if no file in /boot/grub/* would contain '/media/root' then
[06:25] <dazjorz> I remember I wasn't sure about that when I had to grub-install
[06:25] <stamen> pag: I think you helped me
[06:25] <stamen> but why in this manuals on the links is diferent
[06:25] <stamen> pag: the way they write
[06:25] <pag> stamen, do they tell you to chroot? :O
[06:26] <stamen> pag: uuups, no :)
[06:26] <pag> stamen, oh.. that manual takes a different approach - tbh I'm not sure which is easiest-
[06:26] <stamen> sorry
[06:27] <genii> chroot works better for me on grub-install
[06:27] <pag> stamen, you should be fine now. try booting and come to tell if it worked ok :)
[06:27] <arash> hello, can I set how my Kubuntu to do alt+arrowkey when i press the left on mouse?
[06:27] <stamen> pag: yes, but they are not telling to chroot, I have the old sintaxis in my mind, the older versions, were in the old way, and I had to chroot
[06:27] <stamen> pag: thats why I made the mistake
[06:27] <bense> i just installed kubuntu and i don't know the root password :(
[06:28] <pag> !root | bense
[06:28] <ubotu> bense: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[06:28] <arash> bense - its the same your account password? perhaps?
[06:28] <stamen> pag: ok, I wiil reboot to see what happend
[06:28] <stamen> pag: thank you very much for now
[06:28] <bense> whoami = bense
[06:29] <pag> !mouse | arash, that might help - not sure; never tried
[06:29] <ubotu> arash, that might help - not sure; never tried: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[06:29] <genii> stamen If you mistakenly do a grub-install to a subpartition that was your / by mistake, it will show to fdisk as an "Acorn" partition.
[06:29] <arash> thanks
[06:29] <bense> okay but i tried to login as root
[06:29] <bense> not to su as root
[06:29] <bense> hm
[06:30] <bense> i guess i can boot from the livecd
[06:30] <bense> mount my partitions
[06:30] <bense> chroot
[06:30] <bense> then passwd root?
[06:31] <genii> hmm he left
[06:31] <pag> bense, why do you need to enable a root account?
[06:32] <bense> cause i'm old school
[06:32] <bense> well then what account do i use to edit 600 files?
[06:33] <pag> bense, sudo -i  ? :)
[06:33] <pompellid> is there anyone here that can help me with a problem trying to upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04?
[06:33] <DaSkreech> tackat: Helllo :-)
[06:33] <pag> pompellid, be more specific please.
[06:33] <bense> wtf
[06:33] <bense> what is sudo -i?
[06:33] <BluesKaj> genii, did that Shawnrisk guy try to solicit you for a donation  to some bike trip thing to the tar sands ...what was he thinking ?...what nerve :)
[06:33] <bense> LOL
[06:33] <bense> i'm retarded
[06:33] <pag> bense, it'll open a 'root-session'
[06:33] <genii> BluesKaj: ! moment
[06:33] <tackat> DaSkreech: hi
[06:34] <bense> all right that works
[06:34] <bense> hm
[06:34] <tackat> DaSkreech: when was the last time you tried Marble?
[06:34] <DaSkreech> tackat: Moons ago
[06:34] <bense> so who did i manage to get a ubuntu gutsy
[06:34] <BluesKaj> pompellid, describe your prob pls
[06:34] <bense> off of a kubuntu
[06:34] <pag> bense, and if you *really* want root account (on your own risk) then sudo passwd  will probably work
[06:34] <bense> site
[06:35] <tackat> DaSkreech: did you try the automatic tile downloading :) ? http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/marble_20070726_8.png
[06:35] <kaminix> Could someone help me fix a more compact and stylish output for /media?
[06:35] <Daisuke-Ido> blech
[06:35] <Daisuke-Ido> unrar x *.rar refuses to work :\
[06:35] <pag> kaminix, please, no np-scripts here
[06:35] <kaminix> pag: I was just showing the script I want to change.
[06:36] <pag> kaminix, are you using amarok?
[06:36] <kaminix> Yes.
[06:36] <pompellid> pag: running adept manager (as root). once i fetch upgrades, it tells me a new version is available. the upgrade version then loads the distro upgrade, which fails to fetch "http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/dists/edgy/main/binary-amd64/Packagez.gz and .../main/source/Sources.gz (404 Not Found)
[06:36] <jhutchins> Daisuke-Ido: try unrar e <tabcomplete>
[06:36] <tackat> DaSkreech: And this is how the first GSoC results look like http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/marble_20070726_5.png http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/marble_20070726_6.png
[06:36] <Daisuke-Ido> i don't want them extracted to the current directory
[06:36] <kaminix> pag: It's using the built in /media script for Konversation though
[06:36] <llutz> Daisuke-Ido: for r in *.rar; do unrar x "$r";done
[06:37] <Daisuke-Ido> and using tabcomplete for 300 archives is going to take a while :F
[06:37] <jhutchins> Daisuke-Ido: Well, I think you can change directory first, then issue the command.
[06:37] <zabadapp> bense: I usually do "sudo bash" to get a sort of root-shell for extensive work ... probably not the preferred way :)
[06:37] <pag> kaminix, just alias this to something: echo -n "np: "; dcop amarok player nowPlaying   and really; try to keep those off theis channel
[06:38] <Daisuke-Ido> llutz: you are awesome
[06:38] <pag> pompellid, disable that source?
[06:38] <Daisuke-Ido> weird seeing zab here -_-
[06:39] <pag> kaminix, oh sorry; to get that working in Konversation you'll need to prefix it with  /exec cmd
[06:39] <kaminix> Thanks. :) Can I format it with colors and stuff?
[06:39] <Daisuke-Ido> i found a nice np shell script that niceloy formats all of the info from amarok
[06:40] <arash> !buttons
[06:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buttons - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:40] <pompellid> pag: disabled it and still got the same error. is there a manual way to edit the repository list?
[06:40] <jhutchins> Daisuke-Ido: Interesting, what script, and what info does it format?
[06:40] <pag> kaminix, I don't know... I guess it'll need a more complicated script
[06:40] <genii> arash Trying to enable extra mouse buttons?
[06:40] <pag> pompellid, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:40] <kaminix> Aw well, thanks anyway. :)
[06:41] <arash> genii - it is impossible to understand anything from that guide ;(
[06:41] <Daisuke-Ido> let me look really quick
[06:41] <bense> all right, and what's the program to use with an ipod
[06:41] <bense> that itunes like program?
[06:41] <Daisuke-Ido> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=60375
[06:42] <jhutchins> bense: amarok?
[06:42] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> bense: Amarok?
[06:42] <Daisuke-Ido> jhutchins: ^
[06:42] <bense> all right
[06:42] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> 1 second...
[06:43] <jhutchins> Daisuke-Ido: Yeah, I was re-reading the context.
[06:43] <Daisuke-Ido> i've tweaked it to my own needs, works really well (i actually replaced the /media alias with that script)
[06:44] <pompellid> pag: two to disable (source one as well, which I didn't see). Seems to be working now. Thank you for your help
[06:44] <genii> arash What is the exact model of your mouse?
[06:44] <pag> pompellid, np :)
[06:44] <bense> all right and i'm not sure if this is a taboo subject
[06:44] <bense> but how do i install the drivers for the xvids
[06:45] <bense> isn't there some extra step
[06:45] <pag> !xvid | bense
[06:45] <ubotu> bense: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:45] <bense> or some unusual repositories i have to add?
[06:46] <pag> bense, xvid support is either in libxine-extracodecs (or whatever they're called nowdays) or in w32codecs
[06:46] <arash_> What is standard text editor in Kubuntu?
[06:46] <pag> arash_, kate
[06:46] <fedora-ds> hi all
[06:46] <ares> quick question i have ubuntu on a different hard drive, but on the first i have Windows Xp , and i set it up so it directly boots Windows XP.what happens if i formate the HD with Kubuntu on it now?
[06:46] <bense> i take it that amarok reads the ipod database and allows it to maintain function in windows + itunes?
[06:46] <arash_> what do I do wrong when typind "sudo Kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf "?
[06:46] <ares> will Xp stil boot?
[06:47] <pag> arash_, kdesu kate ....
[06:47] <zabadapp> bense: vlc or mplayer need no codecs except lates wmv I think
[06:47] <fedora-ds> does anyone here have expirience with ldap + samba + qmail
[06:47] <genii> arash kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:47] <ares> arash_: try sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[06:47] <bense> hm
[06:47] <redshadowhero> !ipod | bense
[06:47] <ubotu> bense: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[06:48] <redshadowhero> that may have the info you need...
[06:48] <ares> no one an idea?
[06:48] <MaTiAz> What's the difference between sudo and kdesu anyway?
[06:48] <genii> arash_: lowercase k on kate and uppercase X on X11
[06:48] <pag> !kdesu | MaTiAz
[06:48] <ubotu> MaTiAz: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[06:48] <MaTiAz> pag: Ah ok, thanks
[06:49] <ares> quick question i have ubuntu on a different hard drive, but on the first i have Windows Xp , and i set it up so it directly boots Windows XP.what happens if i formate the HD with Kubuntu on it now?
[06:49] <MaTiAz> I've been using sudo though, gotta remember not to do it anymore :D
[06:49] <fedora-ds> does anyone here have expirience with ldap + samba + qmail ???
[06:49] <arash_> genii - ok, I know for next time
[06:49] <bense> brb
[06:49] <pag> ares, if it uses Windows Bootloader, then formatting should be fine
[06:49] <ares> pag: its grub
[06:50] <pag> ares, then do not format.
[06:50] <ares> so what can i do
[06:50] <pag> ares, you have to replace grub, before you can remove partition with it's config files
[06:50] <bense_> hi bense
[06:50] <ares> pag: how do i do that
[06:51] <pag> ares, (disclaimer: never did that myself) Boot form XP-install cd, enter the recovery console and type fixmbr
[06:51] <bense_> next thing to do
[06:51] <ares> would that be the easiest way?
[06:51] <pompellid> ares: http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/483/xp_repair_fix_master_boot_record_recovery_console
[06:52] <bense> the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu is that kubuntu centers around kde right?
[06:52] <AV1611> greeting at all!
[06:52] <pag> bense, yup.
[06:52] <bense> eh
[06:52] <ares> allright pretty easy
[06:52] <bense> i'll just change my .xinitrc
[06:52] <ares> if not ill just pop the kubuntu cd in
[06:52] <pompellid> ares: will restore the default windows boot record, then you can format 2nd drive afterwards (if grub doesn't show up on reboot)
[06:52] <AV1611> have got a rather stupid problem. stupid in that sense i hae never seen such a thing.
[06:52] <bense> i screwed up and installed ubuntu instead lol
[06:52] <fedora-ds> does anyone here have expirience with ldap + samba + qmail ???
[06:53] <ares> thank you pompellid sorry i didnt answer your qry, but im not registered and had no chance
[06:53] <pompellid> ares: np :)
[06:53] <bense> ! ipod | bense
[06:54] <arash_> should i reboot after editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[06:54] <pag> arash_, just restart your X
[06:54] <AV1611> a regular KDE session at Kubuntu704. As I try to go out into black console with Ctrl+Alt+F1, it gives me my console, BUT without any possibility to continiue on with any console commands (including even dummy Ctrl+Alt+Del)...Did ever anybody experience that?
[06:54] <arash_> pag what?
[06:55] <pag> arash_, ctrl+alt+backspace OR enter any of tty's and type sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[06:55] <arash_> ok
[06:55] <arash_> i try
[06:55] <AV1611> what it can be caused?
[06:56] <arash_> it worked :D!
[06:57] <jhutchins> AV1611: Did you log in?
[06:57] <jhutchins> AV1611: Ctrl-F7 should put you back in the gui.
[06:57] <AV1611> at GUI - yes, I did
[06:58] <jhutchins> AV1611: Ctrl-alt-delete might be disabled in your inittab.
[06:58] <AV1611> neither CTRL+ALT+Fx, neither ANY of the lbd commands could help me out....
[06:58] <AV1611> kbd
[06:58] <ed_> BluesKaj:  A belated "thank you" for your help the other day fixing my screen resolution problem.  You got me pointed in the right direction, and all is well now.
[06:58] <jhutchins> AV1611: Hm.  Sounds like a keyboard problem in console.
[06:58] <vonderer> hi there
[06:59] <jhutchins> AV1611: You can type commands, but the window control commands don't work?
[06:59] <jhutchins> AV1611: Try the other Ctrl key (& other alt).
[07:02] <vonderer> need some help about MPD on my kubuntu feisty
[07:03] <bense> anyone know how to setup a device so that a non root user can read/write to it?
[07:03] <pag> vonderer, try asking more specific question(s)
[07:03] <llutz> bense: vfat/ntfs/ext/reiser?
[07:03] <bense> vfat
[07:03] <llutz> bense: mount with option umask=000
[07:04] <bense> llutz: so like mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod -t vfat -o umask=000
[07:04] <llutz> bense: yep
[07:05] <bense> k
[07:05] <bense> i'll try that, thanks llutz
[07:05] <vonderer> ok, I'm trying to use MPD here, on my kubuntu 7.04, and have this problem: every time I try to play the same song after stopping it or to continue after pausing it for some time, it halts.
[07:05] <vonderer> is there any way ti fix it?
[07:05] <vonderer> *to
[07:09] <DaSkreech> tackat: didn't aseigo mention you in a blog this week?
[07:10] <AV1611> the thing is i have never exdperience such thing at any of linux or bsd
[07:10] <tackat> DaSkreech: no idea, but he certainly loves me
[07:10] <AV1611> it doesn't want to responce back to any kbd combo, left/right ctrl, or even ctrl-alt-del, as i said
[07:11] <AV1611> only hard reset gets it out
[07:11] <DaSkreech> tackat: what have you done for him lately? :)
[07:11] <AV1611> here is an USB-KBD, that's correct, but still
[07:12] <vonderer> so, there is no way to solve my problems with mpd?
[07:12] <AV1611> at a forum I was advised to recompile video-adapter's drivers (matrox_g450). Does that make any sense? What you think?
[07:13] <AV1611> BTW, is there some sources for matrox_video? I found the BIN's only yet.....
[07:13] <AV1611> (never had any of the least problem with it at any of nix)
[07:13] <AV1611> matrox g450/550 are just excellent in that realm
[07:17] <tzanger> with Kubuntu, do I want the xserver-xorg-video-ati or xorg-driver-fglrx package for this ATI card?
[07:20] <bense> amarok doesn't support mp3s?
[07:20] <mumificpjetao> it does
[07:21] <pag> bense, you'll have to install codecs
[07:21] <mumificpjetao> !mp3
[07:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:21] <bense> man
[07:21] <bense> that's a pain
[07:21] <bense> and what's the name of that program that installs packages
[07:21] <bense> the X program
[07:21] <bense> not the gnome one
[07:22] <DaSkreech> adept
[07:22] <DaSkreech> alt+spcae -> adept -> Enter
[07:22] <mumificpjetao> bense: sudo apt-get install packagename
[07:23] <bense> adept isn't found :|
[07:23] <mumificpjetao> ?
[07:23] <mumificpjetao> bense what distribution are you on?
[07:23] <pag> bense, synaptic
[07:24] <DaSkreech> bense: how did you open it?
[07:24] <bense> there
[07:24] <pag> bense, if you're on gnome I mean...
[07:24] <bense> that works
[07:24] <bense> i just have a terminal open
[07:24] <bense> and i'm firing stuff out of there
[07:24] <DaSkreech> bense: No desktop?
[07:25] <mumificpjetao> :S?
[07:25] <DaSkreech> Why do You want a X package manager then?
[07:25] <bense> i went to the kubuntu site, and i got "gusty"
[07:25] <bense> and it's saying ubuntu not kubuntu
[07:25] <DaSkreech> for your name?
[07:25] <bense> synaptic was the app i was looking for
[07:26] <dale> Cool! you can trace phones: http://planetcreation.co.uk/sat-gps/
[07:26] <DaSkreech> bense: You said not the gnome one
[07:27] <zabadapp> bense: gutsy is still in beta (e.t.a. october) ... feisty (7.04) is the current release
[07:28] <DaSkreech> It's in alpha actually
[07:28] <bense> so
[07:28] <zabadapp> ..even so :)
[07:28] <bense> i plan on removing gnome
[07:28] <bense> and manually loading up openbox
[07:28] <bense> i used to use gentoo for about 4 years
[07:28] <bense> but i got sick of all the compilation, i like ubuntus packaging system
[07:29] <bense> kde > gnome IMO
[07:29] <DaSkreech> Whoot!
[07:29] <bense> but if i accidently installed ubuntu instead of kubuntu then i don't really care
[07:29] <bense> cause i can jst add "startkde" to my .xinitrc
[07:31] <sunnypies> I installed flash through add/remove programs but when I goto disney.com it still says I need to install flash.  anyone know?
[07:31] <DaSkreech> Konqueror?
[07:32] <djwright265> I have just downloaded a dvd rip.  I want to burn it.  I have a cue file and a bin file.  I've clicked on the bin file, it does nothing, and I've clicked on the cue file, and k3b opens it saying 'could not open document'.  is there something I can do to burn this?
[07:34] <djwright265> Really, I would just like to watch the movie once.  I would do anything I needed to whether there was a way I can watch it on my laptop, or whether I have to burn it to a cd or dvd.
[07:35] <djwright265> Does anyone know how to do that?
[07:35] <jussi01> djwright265: im not sure, someone will though, just wait. :)
[07:35] <jussi01> hi jono
[07:35] <djwright265> :)
[07:36] <jono> hey jussi01
[07:36] <linux_user400354> is it possible to see who the recipient is of a file encrypted with gpg but not have the secret key?
[07:36] <sunnypies> I installed flash through add/remove programs but when I goto disney.com it still says I need to install flash.  anyone know?
[07:36] <jussi01> sunnypies: are you using konqueror?
[07:36] <sunnypies> jussi01: firefox
[07:36] <jussi01> sunnypies: what did you install?
[07:37] <sunnypies> jussi01: the flash plugin for firefox
[07:37] <jussi01> sunnypies: try going to terminal and doing: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[07:38] <sunnypies> jussi01: however konquorer nor firefox work with flash yet
[07:38] <jussi01> that will make sure you have the right thing
[07:38] <sunnypies> jussi01: ok
[07:38] <dxdt> lol what
[07:38] <dxdt> sure they do
[07:38] <jussi01> dxdt: his ones
[07:38] <dxdt> oh
[07:38] <dxdt> sorry
[07:38] <bense> i feel silly, i selected all my items in synaptic, but i can't figure out how to initiate the install?
[07:38] <jussi01> :)
[07:38] <jussi01> click apply?
[07:39] <bense> it's greyed out
[07:39] <jussi01> hmm, synaptic? on kubuntu?
[07:39] <sunnypies> jussi01: it said "flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version" and I've rebooted just in case...
[07:39] <boris_> how can i instal drivers for mp3 format
[07:39] <bense> it's on ubuntu lol
[07:39] <boris_> pliy
[07:39] <boris_> pliz
[07:40] <dxdt> The easiest way I've found of getting flash to work in both Konqueror and Firefox was to use the latest LInux version from Adobe, version 9 something.  Download the zip file that contains both the libflash*.so plugin and the .xpt file.  Move them both to a directory like /usr/share/firefox/plugins or some directory like that that konqueror will scan for plugins and then go from there.  So...
[07:40] <dxdt> ...far that has worked for me everytime
[07:40] <jussi01> sunnypies: ok. are you sure its flash? its not a java plugin needed?
[07:40] <jussi01> bense:
[07:41] <jussi01> #ubuntu
[07:41] <dxdt> you can find the name of the directory you should move them to by looking in the Konqueror's preferences under plugins and looking at the list it scans and stuffs.
[07:41] <sunnypies> jussi01: when i got the flash it installed the jdk 6
[07:41] <bense> :(
[07:41] <sunnypies> jussi01: so i think its good. this is weird
[07:42] <jussi01> bense: however it sounds like your synaptic is not running as root
[07:42] <pag> bense, did you launch the synaptic with the gksudo  (or even sudo for thta matter) ?
[07:42] <jussi01> sunnypies: just to make sure, try sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[07:42] <sunnypies> k
[07:43] <sunnypies> jussi01: already has newest version =(
[07:44] <jussi01> sunnypies: I just checked it is flash. weird
[07:44] <bense> jussi01 and pag, thank you.   i've been out of the scene for TOO long it seems :P
[07:44] <jussi01> bense: :)
[07:45] <sunnypies> jussi01: goto disney.com and tell me if you see all the flash there
[07:46] <jussi01> sunnypies: I allready did. it seems all flash to me
[07:46] <mumificpjetao> oj boris =D sunarodnjae =D
[07:46] <boris_> ej majstore
[07:47] <ulf_> hello, do you know, if multiple distros can share one boot partition, does that make sense?
[07:47] <boris_> ej, danas citav dan oko ovog kubantea
[07:47] <mumificpjetao> tek instalira ili?
[07:47] <mumificpjetao> kubuntu btw =)
[07:47] <boris_> ma e
[07:47] <Daisuke-Ido> !en
[07:47] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[07:48] <boris_> pa nikako da mi proradi neka mp3ica
[07:48] <boris_> navika na win
[07:48] <jhutchins> ulf_: I don't think that's practical, although anything's possible.
[07:48] <Daisuke-Ido> boris_: see above
[07:48] <Daisuke-Ido> english only
[07:48] <sunnypies> jussi01: im jealous
[07:48] <zabadapp> boris_: was it for Amarok you wanted mp3-support?
[07:48] <mumificpjetao> boris, #ubuntu-hr
[07:48] <mumificpjetao> click there
[07:48] <boris_> yes
[07:49] <jrc> I need to get a wireless adapter for my Kubuntu machine. Any suggestions of ones that work well with kubuntu?
[07:50] <boris_> ne smijem pricati na naski :)
[07:50] <ulf_> i dont know for sure, if it is possible, maybe there a files that would be overwritten by installing a distro... grub.conf can be manually altered to my needs, but i dont know the other files at all
[07:51] <sunnypies> jussi01: is there a kubuntu site that gets you started with installing java,flash?  so I can make sure I didn't miss anything?
[07:51] <zabadapp> boris_: in kubuntu start Add/Remove Programs from the K-menu ... make sure both checkboxes in upper right corner are checked and search for amarok ... select to install "Xine extra plugins"
[07:52] <jussi01> sunnypies: you havent missed anything.,
[07:52] <jussi01> its weird
[07:52] <jussi01> !flash
[07:52] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[07:52] <jussi01> !java
[07:52] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[07:55] <ulf_> !boot
[07:55] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[07:55] <ulf_> !grub
[07:55] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:56] <ulf_> !dualboot
[07:56] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[07:56] <jussi01> !botabuse | ulf_
[07:56] <ubotu> ulf_: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[07:57] <TFrog> has anyone loaded up the 8.39.4 ATI drivers yet?
[07:57] <arun> anyone know of any good ftp client for kde?
[07:57] <boris_> txn
[07:57] <boris_> evala
[07:57] <jussi01> !ftp
[07:57] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[07:57] <jussi01> arun konq?
[07:57] <zabadapp> arun: konqueror supports ftp://
[07:58] <ulf_> Understood, jussi ;)
[07:58] <arun> yeah, apart from konqueror
[07:58] <jussi01> ulf_: :)
[07:59] <jussi01> arun: !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber
[07:59] <jussi01> !Kasablanca
[07:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kasablanca - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:59] <jhutchins> ftp works great from the console
[07:59] <arun> how is kbear
[07:59] <jussi01> never used it
[07:59] <mumificpjetao> !KFTPGrabber
[07:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kftpgrabber - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <arun> have you used kasablanca?
[08:00] <jussi01> !info Kasablanca
[08:00] <ubotu> kasablanca: fast and free ftp client for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.0.2-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 165 kB, installed size 628 kB
[08:00] <TFrog> i guess no one has loaded up the latest ATI drivers :(
[08:03] <sbucat> SORRy kubuntu+kaffeine+beryl i can t see so goog as vlc player movie
[08:03] <sbucat> *good
[08:03] <arun> sbucat: yeah, i had the same problem
[08:03] <arun> if you try to make it full screen or resize the window, it crashes
[08:03] <Daisuke-Ido> change what vlc's using.
[08:04] <Daisuke-Ido> probably X11 right now, try some of the other options
[08:04] <sbucat> mmm i have selected x11 output in vlc but in kaffeine?
[08:04] <sbucat> vlc works great
[08:04] <sbucat> with beryl
[08:04] <sbucat> but kaffeine no lol
[08:05] <arun> x11 output sucks
[08:05] <arun> and beryl+video will only work with x11 on kde
[08:05] <arun> kftpgrabber works great
[08:07] <tzanger> I figured out the kopete mem/cpu hogging trigger
[08:07] <tzanger> kopete hits 100% memory/cpu (and races with kontact to OOM kill if kontact is running) whenever a standard KDE file dialog in ANY KDE application is opened
[08:08] <tzanger> completely repeatable
[08:08] <dikkelu> hello
[08:08] <dikkelu> I have php compiled by myself but now apache doesn't know how to use the php
[08:08] <dikkelu> how can i tell apache to use the compiled php
[08:08] <jussi01> tzanger: have you filed a bug?
[08:08] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> tzanger: That's not a good thing. Did you check bugs.kde.org to see it it's been filed yet?
[08:09] <jussi01> or launchpad
[08:09] <arun> kftpgrabber is great, actually
[08:09] <tzanger> jussi01: yes I did
[08:09] <tzanger> WhtWolfTeraDyne: I've filed on ubunutu's tracker, kde guys say they've never heard of it
[08:09] <jussi01> tzanger: ok. well you need to wait until someone fixes it then.
[08:10] <tzanger> it look sthough that I need to have an ongoing conversation (msn only perhaps)
[08:10] <jussi01> tzanger: it might not be actually kopete, but a plugin
[08:10] <tzanger> it's jussi01 yeah I'm thinking msn
[08:11] <jussi01> tzanger: since youve done what you can for now, please leave the support channel for others. ;)
[08:12] <jhutchins> tzanger: pidgin's looking pretty good.
[08:12] <tzanger> jussi01: eh?
[08:13] <kaminix> The filename doesn't influense the md5sum output, does it?
[08:13] <tzanger> kaminix: nope
[08:14] <jussi01> tzanger: you need to be talking to the devs about your bug.
[08:14] <tzanger> I know, I've got the bug filed, now I'm just trying to fine-tune the trigger to make sure it's easily reproducible
[08:14] <tzanger> the KDE guys claim 3.5.6 "pristine" doesn't have it, or at least they haven't seen it
[08:15] <kaminix> Can a md5sum really change this much from just moving the file to another drive? (it became visually corrupt at two places):
[08:15] <kaminix> 008023f222d77735457431c8719e3df7  /media/sda5/Torrents/[JR-F]  W - Ai No Imi Wo Oshiete [DVD] [BE7B2543] .avi
[08:15] <kaminix> 745640af6c6e84bb4451a2b3fd701351  /media/disk/Video/Promotional Videos/W - Ai No Imi Wo Oshiete.xvid
[08:15] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> tzanger: Did you try asking in #kopete ?
[08:15] <tzanger> kaminix: changing one bit will change the hash SIGNIFICANTLY
[08:15] <jussi01> tzanger: all I was trying to say, dont clog up support with it ;) Jump into #kopete or something.
[08:15] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !pastebin | kaminix
[08:15] <ubotu> kaminix: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:15] <tzanger> ah
[08:15] <dikkelu> doesn't anybody know?
[08:15] <kaminix> Pastebin for two lines?
[08:16] <jussi01> dikkelu: it appears not.
[08:16] <jussi01> dikkelu: try in a little while
[08:16] <dikkelu> :(
[08:16] <dikkelu> k
[08:17] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> kaminix: Meh. I've seen people go all out on others for "flooding" with two lines it the past. It never hurts to bee safe.
[08:17] <dikkelu> !nl | dikkelu
[08:18] <kaminix> Won't people trying to help be annoyed by opening their browsers for two lines of text?
[08:18] <tzanger> kaminix: it's a fine line
[08:18] <tzanger> if the lines look like what you had, possibly yes
[08:18] <tzanger> if they don't scroll and look nasty, no...  but again that's very subjective
[08:18] <zabadapp> dikkelu: did you add LoadModule mod_php in apache?
[08:19] <kaminix> Well, I'll keep it in mind anyway :)
[08:21] <NickPresta> dikkelu, ask your question again...
[08:22] <dikkelu> nope zabadapp
[08:22] <dikkelu> that is what I need i think
[08:23] <dikkelu> that LoadModule does that come in http.conf????
[08:23] <dikkelu> NickPresta: i want to tell apache to use my self compiled php
[08:24] <zabadapp> dikkelu: what apache version? in 1.3 yes ... i 2.x it depends (i'm no apache-master) but it can be in many different configuration files
[08:24] <dikkelu> apache2 installed with aptitude
[08:24] <NickPresta> dikkelu, did you use the `--with-apxs2` flag when compiling apache?
[08:24] <dikkelu> i didn't compiled apache
[08:24] <NickPresta> dikkelu, sorry, when compiling PHP
[08:24] <dikkelu> nope
[08:25] <mguezuraga> HI! I've previously upgrade kde adding deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-357 feisty main to sources.list. How can I downgrade to 3.5.6?
[08:25] <dikkelu> i just compiled --with-mysql
[08:25] <m0ns00n> Anyone know how to make a MIDI keyboard work with linux in Kubuntu? I have a keyboard connected to the gameport of my SBLive card
[08:25] <dikkelu> if that would work I would figure out what those other options were for
[08:25] <NickPresta> dikkelu, you need the `--with-apxs2` flag for Apache 2 support
[08:26] <dikkelu> k i will compile again
[08:26] <zabadapp> dikkelu: hmm, isn't there also a apxs?-command for installing a module into apache as well?? NickPresta seems to know his stuff :)
[08:26] <NickPresta> dikkelu, wait one minute. I will post my ./configure line.
[08:26] <dikkelu> k thnx
[08:26] <dikkelu> do i have to decompile the previously compiled php?
[08:27] <NickPresta> dikkelu, no
[08:28] <dikkelu> so when i compile and install again it will just override my old compiled php?
[08:29] <NickPresta> dikkelu, if you're compiling it to the same location, yeah. http://pastebin.ca/634864
[08:30] <bense> is a ssh server installed and running by default?
[08:30] <NickPresta> dikkelu, that will give you mysql, mysqli, soap, pear, cURL, gd imaging, zip, soap and some other stuff. check what you need.
[08:31] <NickPresta> bense, no, AFAIK
[08:31] <dikkelu> NickPresta: I can't see you 're compile line?
[08:31] <bense> guess i'll have to do that then :P
[08:31] <arun> kftpgrabber is really cool
[08:31] <NickPresta> bense, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#SSH_Server
[08:31] <NickPresta> =)
[08:31] <arun> works great
[08:31] <NickPresta> dikkelu, what do you mean?
[08:31] <dikkelu> oh sorry
[08:31] <bense> thanks NickPresta
[08:32] <dikkelu> didn't notice the link
[08:32] <dikkelu> my bad
[08:32] <NickPresta> dikkelu, it's cool.
[08:32] <dikkelu> what is cURL?
[08:33] <dikkelu> ok, now a very stupid question!!! :)
[08:33] <jussi01> !info curl
[08:33] <ubotu> curl: Get a file from an HTTP, HTTPS, FTP or GOPHER server. In component main, is optional. Version 7.15.5-1ubuntu2.1 (feisty), package size 159 kB, installed size 256 kB
[08:34] <dikkelu> I have untar the php in /usr/local. then i compiled it without the prefix
[08:34] <dikkelu> Where did I compiled the php ??? in that same dir?
[08:35] <alex_> hola
[08:35] <NickPresta> dikkelu, it should either be in /usr/local/bin or /usr/bin
[08:36] <NickPresta> dikkelu, personally, i like compiling php to /opt/php and then symlinking /opt/php/bin/php to /usr/bin/php
[08:36] <alex_> hola
[08:36] <alex_> hola
[08:36] <dikkelu> i copied the tar file php-5.2.3.tar.gz into /usr/local
[08:37] <dikkelu> and i unpacked it in /usr/local
[08:37] <NickPresta> dikkelu, you don't have to copy it to the directory you're going to put it in. you use the --prefix flag for that
[08:37] <mumificirani> !bin
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:37] <dikkelu> ah k
[08:38] <dikkelu> but if I didn't used that prefix, then it is installed in /usr/bin?? or not?
[08:38] <NickPresta> dikkelu, do a `./configure --help` it should show the default directory
[08:38] <dikkelu> k
[08:40] <dikkelu> NickPresta: where can i find the path to apxs2?
[08:41] <NickPresta> dikkelu, `locate apxs2`
[08:41] <dikkelu> it doesn't find anything
[08:42] <NickPresta> dikkelu, sorry, `locate apxs`
[08:42] <NickPresta> dikkelu, you want the bin/apxs
[08:42] <dikkelu> it doesn't find anything
[08:43] <NickPresta> dikkelu, you're sure you have apache installed?
[08:43] <dikkelu> pffff, it's harder then i imagined
[08:43] <dikkelu> I can surf to localhost/apache-default
[08:43] <dikkelu> and i get the page 'It Works'
[08:43] <NickPresta> dikkelu, check here: /usr/local/apache/bin/apxs
[08:43] <NickPresta> dikkelu, it isn't normally this hard when you compile apache, php and mysql. you know where everything is and how it's setup ;)
[08:44] <dikkelu> k
[08:44] <dikkelu> i'm gonna compile everything myself
[08:44] <dikkelu> and start over
[08:44] <dikkelu> because now i don't know shit :p
[08:44] <dikkelu> thnx for the help, And I will be back :)
[08:44] <NickPresta> dikkelu, okay. it isn't too hard. I've been doing it for years. just remember that you will need some -dev headers to compile apache and PHP sometimes.
[08:45] <dikkelu> yep that i know
[08:45] <NickPresta> okay. I hope all goes well. Someone will be here to help if you have trouble
[08:46] <dikkelu> k thnx for the help allready
[08:48] <dikkelu> one more question, should I compile it all into /usr/local??
[08:48] <dikkelu> or /usr/local/bin
[08:48] <dikkelu> ?
[08:49] <NickPresta> dikkelu, I would compile it to /opt and then system link the binary file to /usr/bin.
[08:49] <dikkelu> and the reason for that is?
[08:50] <NickPresta> well, traditionally, /opt is for optional packages and optional applications that you compile yourself. I find it easier to keep track of and if you ever decide to install apache/php/mysql from the repo, they won't conflict with each other
[08:50] <NickPresta> it makes little difference where you put it, as long as it's somewhere
[08:50] <fatima> do you speak spanish???
[08:51] <NickPresta> !es | fatima
[08:51] <ubotu> fatima: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:53] <dikkelu> k thnx NickPresta.
[08:53] <NickPresta> no problem
[08:53] <dikkelu> another question comes to mind. How can i remove the php i compiled?
[08:54] <megametres> dikkelu : go in the php directory you compiled and do : make uninstall
[08:54] <NickPresta> dikkelu, usually you would do a make uninstall
[08:54] <NickPresta> assuming the makefile has the option to uninstall
[08:54] <dikkelu> ah k so easy
[08:54] <dikkelu> I'm just a noob at unix but I'm learning
[08:54] <dikkelu> :)
[08:55] <NickPresta> dikkelu, that's good. It's much better than complaining that the command line is too hard
[08:55] <NickPresta> =D
[08:55] <dikkelu> make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop. What is this?
[08:56] <megametres> that there is no uninstall set for these sources files... (you are the the right directory ?)
[08:56] <savetheWorld> dikkelu: the makefile that was invoked has no target named "uninstall" defined.
[08:56] <genii> dikkelu: dikkeludikkelu  If the  "make uninstall" is not available in the makefile i find "make dist" or "make distclean" usually does a removal of all that stuff it would normally install anyhow
[08:56] <dikkelu> yep i'm in the right directory
[08:57] <genii> bah stupid tab typo if that makes sense
[08:58] <dikkelu> make distclean did something
[08:58] <savetheWorld> Anyone know where I can find some hints on setting up a locally caching Bind (dns server) on Kubuntu?
[08:58] <NickPresta> savetheWorld, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_Setup_BIND_DNS_Server
[08:59] <genii> dikkelu: Good. It removes any files that it normally would have installed
[08:59] <savetheWorld> NickPresta: Bless you sir!
[08:59] <dikkelu> so now my system is clean again
[09:00] <dikkelu> k now i'm gonna start again
[09:04] <zabadapp> dikkelu: why not simply install php via package manager?
[09:05] <dikkelu> because in kubuntu there is only php 5.2.1. I need php 5.2.3 because it fixes some bugs that i have with custom session handling
[09:05] <dikkelu> and i want to learn how to do it :p
[09:08] <zabadapp> dikkelu: ok
[09:08] <dikkelu> I'm off now cya all
[09:08] <waylandbill_> dikkelu: learning how make and the automake tools work would give you the greatest understanding
[09:08] <waylandbill_> oops. he's gone.
[09:09] <Dusk_> where is the "system sources" on kubuntu??
[09:09] <Dusk_> sorry not system sources
[09:09] <Dusk_> "software sources"
[09:10] <NickPresta> Dusk_, are you talking about /etc/apt/sources.list?
[09:10] <Dusk_> NickPresta, isn't there any graphical gui like on ubuntu??
[09:10] <Dusk_> as "software sources"
[09:11] <waylandbill_> Dusk_: inside Adept there is
[09:11] <Dusk_> waylandbill_, thanks a lot..with the same name??
[09:11] <NickPresta> Dusk_, yeah, you can use Adept, but it seems superfluous to start a GUI and such just to edit and update a sources.list
[09:12] <Dusk_> i'm asking for a friend who doesn't know english
[09:12] <Dusk_> so thanks a lot
[09:12] <waylandbill_> no. you should find it easily under the menu as there's not a lot of menu items.
[09:13] <waylandbill_> NickPresta: true, unless you don't know that the gui edits the sources.list to begin with.
[09:13] <NickPresta> waylandbill_, I know, I was just making a point. Most people only know of a GUI to do things.
[09:14] <Apollodoros> hi folks!
[09:14] <AgarFu> hi all, I'm havin a strange problem with feisty, I've do some investigatinons and seems to be a reproductible bug. It's related with console fonts, I can't see characters such as 
[09:14] <AgarFu> any body can help me?
[09:15] <Apollodoros> Is Kubuntu on DVD worth the transfer time left?
[09:15] <waylandbill_> NickPresta: right. and most people knowing a little about apt know about sources.list even if just a reference in the man page. :-)
[09:15] <AgarFu> I'm spanish, all feisty that I've test are buggy, both installed and running in live mode
[09:15] <waylandbill_> Apollodoros: it doesn't give you extra packages. It gives Desktop and Alternate installs on the same disk.
[09:16] <AgarFu> I think that problem is related with console-setup
[09:16] <Apollodoros> really?
[09:16] <AgarFu> any body can help me please?
[09:17] <waylandbill_> Apollodoros: it seems to be geared more towards installing on multiple systems if you ask me.
[09:19] <zabadapp> AgarFu: what do you get instead of  ? And do you mean the ctrl-alt-F1 console, and not a terminal window?
[09:19] <Apollodoros> They wrote there are full Main and Restricted sections on DVD
[09:20] <AgarFu> yes in console, not in a window
[09:20] <AgarFu> in a window every thing is ok
[09:20] <AgarFu> I hav wreid characters, like hearts, lines, and things like that
[09:21] <AgarFu> if you set LANG=es_ES and run man
[09:21] <AgarFu> for instance you'll see some strange characters
[09:22] <AgarFu> I'm asking all my friends running feisty to try and all of them have the same problem
[09:23] <zabadapp> AgarFu: I have no idea where to change key-map and/or character encoding for the console (but basically I'm never there and I know the US-keyboard layout pretty well even if I use a swedish keyboard) ... someone educate us!! :)
[09:23] <AgarFu> them problem is very strange, if I do /etc/init.d/console-setup restart
[09:24] <AgarFu> without change any config file
[09:24] <AgarFu> the problem seems to be solved
[09:24] <vzduch> !enter | AgarFu
[09:24] <ubotu> AgarFu: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:24] <AgarFu> the character  looks great, but  are rendered as bold!!
[09:25] <AgarFu> I know, seems that I'm crazy, but I can make a photograph if you don't belive me
[09:27] <vzduch>   so far looks normal here
[09:28] <zabadapp> AgarFu: I believe you ... but looking into console-setup I see the use of "setupcon" ... setupcon --help show some flags like --save ... try playing with it?
[09:28] <AgarFu> yes, here, in X every thing works like a charm
[09:28] <vzduch> AgarFu: I have started my irssi on a VGA console.. no problem to be seen
[09:28] <vzduch> otoh, I don't use es_ES as a keymap ;)
[09:29] <AgarFu> vzduch: please, try to do in a console: "LANG=es_ES.UTF-8 man"
[09:29] <AgarFu> I'll try setupcon, let me see.
[09:29] <vzduch> AgarFu: man what? gimme a good example :)
[09:30] <zabadapp> AgarFu: it uses /etc/default/console-setup  ... has some intresting settings
[09:30] <AgarFu> any man, if you type just man
[09:30] <AgarFu> then man will ask you.. what man page do you wish? or something like this
[09:31] <AgarFu> in my case... Qu pgina de manual desea?
[09:31] <vzduch> AgarFu: tells me 'can't set the locale'
[09:32] <vzduch> plus 'What man page do you want to view' or something similar :)
[09:32] <AgarFu> may be you need to generate locale to set es_ES.UTF-8 I don't know
[09:33] <AgarFu> I'll try to boot qemu from a liveCD and make an screenshot
[09:34] <Admiral_Chicago> apropos <string> will search all the man pages for a command
[09:34] <Admiral_Chicago> apropos telnet
[09:35] <Admiral_Chicago> that returns three commands that use telnet or reference it
[09:39] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> What's that apt-* command to see what something recommends\depends on\ect...?
[09:39] <dazjorz> aptitude show iirc
[09:39] <dazjorz> `aptitude show`
[09:39] <Admiral_Chicago> apt-cache show <package>
[09:39] <AgarFu>  apt-cache show pacakge
[09:40] <dazjorz> oh.
[09:40] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Thanks everyone.
[09:40] <dazjorz> oh well
[09:40] <vzduch> AgarFu: apt-cache showpkg
[09:40] <vzduch> shows Depends and Reverse Depends
[09:41] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Ok. Anything that shows recommended packages?
[09:41] <AgarFu> apt-cache show <package>
[09:42] <AgarFu> if <package> recommends some other that information will be shown
[09:42] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Ah, ok. I see it now. I scrolled past it. Thanks.
[09:42] <vzduch> Depends, Recommends, Suggests
[09:42] <vzduch> in that order
[09:44] <AgarFu> my qemu is booting .. but it's too slow, even with kqemu
[09:46] <mzanfardino> I'm looking for a KDE tools I've used in the past to capture screen shots.  This tool permits the selection of portions of the screen, not just the whole screen as with a print-screen.  Can anyone name the tool? (not a quiz, I just can't remember what it was called)
[09:47] <mallize> ksnapshot?
[09:47] <vzduch> mzanfardino: KSnapshot?
[09:47] <mzanfardino> nm - it's ksnapshot
[09:47] <mallize> i think we have a winner
[09:47] <mzanfardino> vzduch: that's the one.  I found I already had it installed.  Must have come with kdemultimedia or something.
[09:52] <colourtux> What language is this channel?/Was sprache hier sprechen wir?
[09:53] <Tm_T> colourtux: english
[09:53] <Tm_T> !de | colourtux
[09:53] <ubotu> colourtux: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:53] <colourtux> Ok. Thank you. I am fine with English.
[09:53] <vzduch> Tm_T: nevermind, this German shows room for improvement :D
[09:53] <colourtux> I am learning still.
[09:53] <Tm_T> heh
[09:54] <colourtux> Many Irc channels are in German so I go in asking that question....
[09:54] <Tm_T> vzduch: yeah I had hard time understand it but it looked german enough
[09:54] <vzduch> hrhr
[09:57] <colourtux> Has anyone been using the tribe version; how is it?
[09:58] <colourtux> ...
[09:58] <vzduch> colourtux: some ppl do, but the place to talk about it is #ubuntu+1
[09:59] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> colourtux: Might be better to ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:59] <Admiral_Chicago> colourtux: running it now, its fairly stable for me
[09:59] <colourtux> darnit. So used to quakenet where no one cares. Thanks. Bye.
[09:59] <Admiral_Chicago> but that doesn't mean you should run it because it worksfor me :)
[10:05] <hasan> hi guys
[10:06] <hasan> i ve just issued a perl command to change all directory names to lowercase for a ntfs  mounted partition
[10:06] <hasan> now i cant change within directories ?
[10:06] <hasan> do i have to remount that directory so that new lowercase directory names would be active ?
[10:07] <venik> jhutchins: I loaded SANE myself from the repositories, but it did not see the UMAX uc1260 parallel scanner
[10:12] <acecase> hey
[10:13] <acecase> is there a dmesg type logging system for KDE? My windows KDE apps keep crashing "randomly" and I can't find anything that will help me to debug it
[10:14] <mauro__> ola ragazzi
[10:14] <acecase> the only one that I have managed to reproduce (kinda) is the System Settings window. If I leave it up for a while it will eventualy crash
[10:14] <zabadapp>  acecase: have you tried memtest?
[10:15] <acecase> zabadapp: I haven't :)
[10:15] <waylandbill> acecase: sounds like a hardware issue. Try testing memory first.
[10:15] <mauro__> hola
[10:15] <mauro__> italian
[10:15] <mauro__> ??
[10:15] <acecase> thanks. I'm installing memtester
[10:15] <waylandbill> !it
[10:15] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:16] <mauro__> k
[10:16] <waylandbill> acecase: the kubuntu cd has memtest boot option.
[10:16] <zabadapp> acecase: yeah, just boot the cd ^^^
[10:16] <acecase> I'm running installed to hd ubuntu 7.04 server and I installed kubuntu-desktop
[10:16] <acecase> so I just installed it :)
[10:17] <mauro__> ole.....
[10:17] <mauro__> ciao
[10:17] <waylandbill> acecase: I think grub puts boot option too
[10:17] <attunix> how do I mount my usb flash drive?
[10:17] <acecase> waylandbill: it does
[10:18] <waylandbill> excellent. :-)
[10:18] <zabadapp> waylandbill: you mean <mr.burns>excellent</mr.burns> ??
[10:18] <waylandbill> attunix: manually, you can find the device node in the dmesg output and use it as an arugment for the mount command... or look in /media and it should be there.
[10:19] <waylandbill> zabadapp: I like that. LOL!
[10:19] <attunix> waylandbill: because it recently stopped responding.
[10:20] <waylandbill> attunix: it should still give a device node in dmesg if it is functional and the scsi and usb layers are loaded.
[10:21] <NickPresta> Out of curiosity, how well support is the 8800 using the nvidia driver?
[10:21] <attunix> waylandbill: dmesg gives me a lOOOOOONNNGGG list
[10:22] <attunix> waylandbill:which one is the usb drive
[10:27] <word> what do phones format microsd cards as / what would be a compaitible filesystem that linux can read it as?
[10:28] <Admiral_Chicago> depends on the phone afaik, don't ask me, I'm no phone expert
[10:31] <zabadapp> word: isn't fat32 used for all cameras/mp3-players/cellphones ?
[10:32] <word> zabadapp: i thought so...i tried mounting it using "mount -t vfat /dev/sdc /media/usb" but i get a wrong fs type error :-/
[10:32] <word> zabadapp: looking in dmesg i see that kubuntu tried automounting it as 6 or 7 different file systems and none worked
[10:32] <tarbat> Hi
[10:33] <tarbat> I just installed ubuntu studio, my xp was hacked into, I must say I love it
[10:34] <tarbat> does this need virus protection
[10:35] <word> no
[10:35] <tarbat> great thanks
[10:35] <word> :)
[10:36] <word> zabadapp: i think i'm going to try to format it with mkdosfs..
[10:39] <word> yayz, that fixed it
[10:43] <zabadapp> word: nice
[10:51] <vonhalenbach> Someone japanese here?
[10:53] <word> !jp
[10:53] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 
[10:53] <vonhalenbach> good idea. thank you!
[10:53] <word> :)
[10:53] <randy> hey, Im haveing trouble with my headsets microphone.  Is there a certain way I have to setup kmix?
[10:54] <word> does kmix have it's input's volumes all the way up and is the right input selected in the last tab?
[10:55] <randy> Yea I think so, I have all of them all the way up, the MIC Led selected and the MIC selected in the drop down menu
[10:55] <hasan> what does fuseblk mean?
[11:00] <ubuntu__> Oi..
[11:00] <ubuntu__> Oi
[11:01] <ubuntu__> Alguem do Brazil?
[11:02] <vzduch> !br | ubuntu__
[11:02] <ubotu> ubuntu__: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[11:03] <hasan> what does fuseblok mean ?
[11:04] <hasan> when i try to mount it says fuseblk instead of ntfs-3g
[11:08] <francisco> alguien me puede hechar una manito con mi camara
[11:09] <francisco> hola
[11:09] <francisco> alguien me puede ayudar a configurar mi camara
[11:09] <AgarFu> francisco, en espaol en #kubuntu-es
[11:10] <GynZi> hello
[11:10] <GynZi> could someone give me a hand with dual boot?
[11:11] <randy> install windows first then linux
[11:11] <GynZi> yes
[11:11] <randy> if you do linux then windows
[11:11] <randy> windows will override grub
[11:11] <GynZi> i installed windows first
[11:12] <GynZi> the problem is
[11:12] <GynZi> i'm trying to install kubuntu from the live cd, and it doesn't even ask about dual boot
[11:12] <rustalot> does the kubuntu kernel have the tickless thing enabled?
[11:12] <Prophezy> hi all
[11:12] <randy> you have to set it up yourself
[11:12] <hasan> hi guys
[11:12] <GynZi> ok
[11:12] <AgarFu> hi
[11:12] <randy> resize the partitions and stuff
[11:12] <hasan> how can i mount my drives using ntfs-3g ?
[11:12] <GynZi> why do i have to resize the partitions?
[11:12] <hasan> in my etc/fstab it's written ntfs-3g but when i issue mount command
[11:13] <AgarFu> if you are running vista, create partitions with vista tool, not kubuntu one
[11:13] <hasan> it says fuseblk what does that mean ?
[11:13] <Prophezy> i have a big problem ... with my adapt manager i got this message, when i tried to download an update to the pidgin
[11:13] <wib> hi, i have an ahteros driver installed but lsmod lists it but its not in iwconfig so i can't connect
[11:13] <GynZi> winxp
[11:14] <AgarFu> well, you won't have any problem installing kubuntu then, yust go ahead GynZi
[11:14] <vic> hi, does anybody know a nice texas hold em?
[11:14] <Prophezy> The ADP database could not be open
[11:14] <hasan> does anybody know about that problem ntfs-3gggg ???
[11:14] <GynZi> it's installed already
[11:14] <GynZi> but the dual boot just says that it can't find the partition
[11:14] <hasan> "/dev/sda5 on /media/win_d type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,blksize=4096)"
[11:14] <hasan> that's what i ve got from mount
[11:15] <vic> hi, is there an ubuntu game channel?
[11:15] <zabadapp> hasan: in the system menu you will have a "NTFS Configuration Tool" .. when I ran that, I could check which NTFS-disks I wanted to mount
[11:15] <hasan> in /etc/ftab its  written "/dev/sda5 /media/win_d ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0"
[11:15] <hasan> when i click on it nothing happens
[11:15] <vic> hello....  ???
[11:16] <hasan> from command line ntfs-config lets me chose options
[11:16] <hasan> i click on that tha wirtes in /etc/fstab the line aforementioned
[11:16] <hasan> but when i use mount command to view
[11:16] <hasan> it's fuseblk !!!
[11:16] <hasan> ??
[11:16] <hasan> why is that ?
[11:17] <randy> !repeat | hasan
[11:17] <SlimG> Is there a KDE alternative for Gnome's dia (Diagram editor)?
[11:17] <ubotu> hasan: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:18] <hasan> !patience|randy
[11:18] <ubotu> randy: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:18] <hasan> i just wnated to see what patience mean
[11:18] <runlevelten> SlimG: Yes. I forget what it's called, hang on
[11:18] <wib> ;)
[11:18] <hasan> nothing special
[11:19] <SlimG> runlevelten: Is it Kivio your thinking of?
[11:20] <runlevelten> kivio
[11:20] <runlevelten> heh, that'd be a yes then
[11:21] <SlimG> runlevelten: I just received the answer on another channel, but thanks for making an effort, I appreciate it
[11:22] <runlevelten> No ptobs. I've used it, it's alright
[11:22] <runlevelten> *probs
[11:24] <Prophezy> run do you know how to kill adept manager?
[11:25] <Prophezy> i tried the sudo kill all
[11:25] <zabadapp> hasan: did you install ntfs-3g and directly tried to mount but it won't work? Have you tried to reboot?
[11:25] <word> Prophezy: sudo killall adept_manager ?
[11:26] <word> Prophezy: you were trying to update pidgin from a tar whiel you had adept running or..?
[11:26] <Prophezy> Word yes sir ;)
[11:26] <Prophezy> tehn i got problem
[11:26] <Prophezy> btw how did you know that i install pidgin? :P
[11:27] <word> Prophezy: i read up to what you said earlier, press ctrl+esc and look for adept
[11:28] <Prophezy> hmmm... no process killed
[11:30] <jacques> hello here
[11:30] <jacques> I have some problem to get my wireless to work
[11:30] <hasan> back again
[11:30] <hasan> sorry i ve missed the message
[11:30] <Prophezy> Word it couldn find any adept in system guard
[11:31] <hasan> probably someone has written some suggestion for me
[11:31] <jacques> hi there
[11:31] <jacques> I am in Mali
[11:31] <ashlon> how do I disable my firewall in kubuntu anyone?
[11:31] <hasan> i ve tried to block out fuseblk line from /etc/mtab
[11:31] <jacques> can someone help me with my wireless
[11:31] <hasan> and addes ntfs-3g in etc/fstab and restarted but it does not work
[11:31] <hasan> unfortunately
[11:31] <word> Prophezy: i could list off a few other processes that might be doing it but restarting will work just as well
[11:32] <Prophezy> word i have already restarting the computer
[11:32] <Prophezy> still same
[11:33] <hasan> which file is used actually for mounting ?
[11:33] <hasan> mtab or fstab ??
[11:33] <Prophezy> and i haved tried  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade pkg --configure -a
[11:33] <ashlon> anyone know how to disable the firewall in kubuntu?
[11:33] <Prophezy> without results
[11:34] <word> no idea :-/
[11:34] <Prophezy> :'(
[11:35] <ashlon> does kubuntu have a firewall, if so where do i disable it?  anyone
[11:36] <ice9__> I don't think it does by default ashlon
[11:36] <vonhalenbach> normally no firewall is installed.
[11:37] <Tm_T> err, there is firewall by default
[11:37] <Prophezy> i got this when i try to kill it : E: Type 'http://vicox.net/ubuntu/pidgin_2.0.0beta7devel.vicox-1_i386.debhttp://vicox.net/ubuntu/pidgin_2.0.0beta7devel.vicox-1_i386.deb' is not known on line 40 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:37] <Tm_T> Prophezy: two rows runtogether
[11:37] <Tm_T> !firewall | ashlon
[11:37] <ubotu> ashlon: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[11:38] <ashlon> Tm_T: thanks
[11:38] <Prophezy> Tm_T : yes and how can i kill it?
[11:38] <Tm_T> ashlon: IIRC bydefault it blocks nothing
[11:38] <hasan> that's awkward i can delete files from ntfs mounted files system but i cant create ???
[11:38] <Tm_T> Prophezy: it's part of kernel
[11:39] <Prophezy> Tm_T means?
[11:39] <Prophezy> that i cant kill it?
[11:40] <Tm_T> Prophezy: means you don't need to kill it
[11:40] <Tm_T> Prophezy: just don't touch it, and it doesn't block a thing
[11:41] <Prophezy> Tm_T so how can i make the adept working again if i cant kill the update..
[11:41] <Tm_T> Prophezy: gah, sorry, now I lost myserlf, ignore what I just said
[11:41] <Prophezy> hihih ;)
[11:42] <Tm_T> Prophezy: edit that line from adept
[11:42] <Tm_T> Prophezy: so there's no two lines run together
[11:42] <Tm_T> !sources
[11:42] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:42] <Tm_T> hmh
[11:42] <Tm_T> anyway
[11:43] <zblach_> hi. i'm looking to play go. can someone suggest a nice KDE frontend for it?
[11:44] <rustalot> zblach_: try cgoban. not sure if it's KDE though.
[11:44] <Chousuke> on which server?
[11:44] <Chousuke> cgoban is GTK
[11:44] <rustalot> nvm then
[11:44] <Prophezy> Tm_T : the problem is i cant get into my adept so i can change the repo
[11:44] <zblach_> any server. i just want to get into the game again
[11:44] <Tm_T> Prophezy: hmm, then use some text editor, and edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:44] <zblach_> i remember once a great online client
[11:45] <rustalot> I installed Openareana, but when I launch it the screen goes black and then instead of seeing a splash screen it just goes back to my desktop
[11:45] <rustalot> err OpenArena
[11:45] <ADiCT3D> How can i get Kubuntu Feisty to recognize my USB Bluetooth Dongle? It does it when running the livecd but does not find it once installed.
[11:45] <Chousuke> zblach_: KGS is probably the best server for that, then, but it's not KDE (it's java)
[11:45] <zblach_> Chousuke: that's fine
[11:45] <ADiCT3D> !bluetooth
[11:45] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[11:45] <zblach_> thanks
[11:47] <Prophezy> Tm_T: what should i do with the text editor after i edit that?
[11:47] <Prophezy> ops shall
[11:47] <Tm_T> save it?
[11:47] <Prophezy> after that?
[11:47] <Tm_T> what adept says?
[11:49] <Tm_T> Prophezy: ok, I think I shouldgo, I'm getting too fuzzy, good luck with it ->
[11:49] <Prophezy> Tm_T : it says : The ADP Databse could not opended!
[11:49] <Prophezy> Tm_T : well thanks anyway for the help .. ;)
[11:53] <ADiCT3D> Can someone help me "find" my bluetooth dongle? It isnt being listed but it works with my keyboard.
[11:56] <K-Ryan> How can I find out my local ip?
[11:56] <[Apollo] -AFK> k-ryan: ifconfig
[11:56] <vzduch> from user account: /sbin/ifconfig
[11:56] <K-Ryan> Thank [Apollo] -AFK
[12:00] <zabadapp> lsusb ?
[12:02] <Apollodoros> hello oldboys!
[12:06] <rdvon> !wifi
[12:06] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:06] <runlevelten> Has anyone seen the old loki installer for call of duty and uo?
[12:07] <runlevelten> english version.
[12:12] <ubuntu> ttp://cahnna.c4.to/