[12:16] <redshadowhero> I can't seem to get my wireless to connect to the router.
[12:17] <redshadowhero> I can connect via wired, but wireless refuses to work.
[12:17] <sorin7486> can anybody tell me how I could find out what application is listening on port 8080 ???
[12:17] <sorin7486> I tried with nmap and it says http-proxy
[12:17] <sorin7486> and it's not squid
[12:18] <waylandbill> sorin7486: you can telnet to that port and see if it has a banner it sends.
[12:18] <sorin7486> I don't have too many things installed
[12:18] <sorin7486> telnet localhost 8080 ?
[12:18] <waylandbill> right
[12:19] <sorin7486> waylandbill: it says connected
[12:19] <sorin7486> escape ...
[12:19] <sorin7486> and nothing
[12:19] <sorin7486> and it just closed the connection
[12:19] <sorin7486> I tried help and nothing
[12:19] <sorin7486> any other ideas ?
[12:20] <waylandbill> it could be an http-proxy. If you don't give an http server a command in a certain timeout it will dump you.
[12:21] <waylandbill> sorin7486: it had to have been started by an init script or an inetd/xinetd daemon
[12:22] <redshadowhero> actually, the wireless manager doesn't seem to show any networks, either, and I know there are some around
[12:22] <sorin7486> waylandbill: I've set it as proxy on ff and it gives no reply
[12:23] <sorin7486> just a blank page
[12:23] <sorin7486> whatever I try
[12:23] <waylandbill> sorin7486: I don
[12:24] <waylandbill> sorin7486: I don't know if it will help, but recursive grep in /etc for 8080 may give a clue
[12:24] <sorin7486> I tried searching for 8080 in /etc...
[12:24] <sorin7486> nothing useful
[12:25] <waylandbill> sorin7486: grep -R 8080 /etc/*     ?
[12:25] <sorin7486> no.. I used the graphical find thinghi from kde
[12:25] <waylandbill> sorin7486: you can try sending ff to localhost:8080, not as a proxy but as a url.
[12:26] <sorin7486> that's a blank page as well
[12:26] <sorin7486> hmm
[12:26] <sorin7486> I have the sharing thing from kde started
[12:26] <sorin7486> how is it called ?
[12:26] <sorin7486> the applet ....
[12:26] <sorin7486> and it has no close button..
[12:27] <sorin7486> that one might be the culprit
[12:27] <sorin7486> does anybody know how the process is called ?
[12:27] <waylandbill> the personal file server?
[12:27] <sorin7486> yeah
[12:27] <sorin7486> the one on http
[12:27] <waylandbill> that could be it.
[12:28] <sorin7486> yes but I don't know it's name
[12:28] <waylandbill> it should be on the kicker panel
[12:29] <dasnipa> http://home.comcast.net/~rturco/p1010292.jpg
[12:29] <sorin7486> I removed it with right click ->remove applet and still nothing
[12:29] <dasnipa> woot woot
[12:30] <sorin7486> brb
[12:30] <waylandbill> sorin7486: all I can suggest is to 'ps ax' and research the processes you don't know until you find it.
[12:32] <sorin7486> back
[12:32] <sorin7486> I restarted X
[12:32] <sorin7486> no luck
[12:32] <runlevelten> what's your problem, kpf?
[12:32] <sorin7486> I have something running on 8080
[12:33] <sorin7486> and I can't figure out what
[12:33] <sorin7486> nmap says it's proxy
[12:33] <waylandbill> sorin7486: all I can suggest is to 'ps ax' and research the processes you don't know until you find it.
[12:33] <sorin7486> ook
[12:34] <sorin7486> what's kio_file ?
[12:34] <waylandbill> konqueror plugin
[12:34] <Sanne> sorin7486: would 'sudo netstat -lp' help?
[12:35] <runlevelten> you're trying to find out what's listening on a process sorin?
[12:35] <runlevelten> on a port?
[12:35] <sorin7486> on 8080
[12:36] <waylandbill> runlevelten: good idea, assuming the netstat will report the application
[12:36] <sorin7486> it shows on nmap ...
[12:36] <sorin7486> but that's it
[12:36] <sorin7486> I am trying netstat
[12:36] <sorin7486> one sec
[12:36] <sorin7486> webcache ? that's 8080 right ?
[12:38] <runlevelten> sorin7486:  fuser -v 8080/tcp is nicer than netstat
[12:38] <venik> HELP WITH SCANNERS, PLEASE!  SANE seems to ignore my scanners on Kubuntu
[12:39] <waylandbill> !info webcache
[12:39] <sorin7486> runlevelten: fuser returns nothing
[12:39] <ubotu> Package webcache does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:39] <venik> both HP4570c and UMAX uc1260
[12:39] <Prophezy> !kill
[12:39] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[12:39] <runlevelten> and if that spits out nothing, fuser -v 8080/udp
[12:40] <waylandbill> are you sure squid isn't installed?
[12:40] <sorin7486> runlevelten: still nothing ... netstat says something interesting dough:
[12:40] <sorin7486> tcp6       0      0 *:webcache              *:*                     LISTEN     5393/jsvc.exec
[12:40] <sorin7486> what's with tcp 6 ?
[12:40] <sorin7486> it's not squid.. I looked for it with ps
[12:41] <venik> How do I get Kubuntu to see the scanners?
[12:42] <waylandbill> sorin7486: that's port 5393 ipv6\
[12:42] <sorin7486> ok
[12:42] <sorin7486> it's something caled jsvc
[12:42] <sorin7486> I killed it and it's ok now
[12:42] <sorin7486> does anybody have any idea what jsvc is ?
[12:42] <waylandbill> you were not looking for 5393, you were looking for 8080
[12:42] <sorin7486> I hve the feeling I got hacked
[12:43] <sorin7486> waylandbill: that 5... is the PID
[12:43] <sorin7486> :webcache is the port
[12:43] <runlevelten> you're running something made of java sorin7486...
[12:44] <waylandbill> sorin7486: yeah you're right. duh. :-)
[12:44] <runlevelten> you have tomcat?
[12:44] <waylandbill> jsvc makes java programs load as a daemon.
[12:44] <sorin7486> runlevelten: I was running tomcat
[12:44] <sorin7486> yes
[12:44] <sorin7486> ok..
[12:44] <sorin7486> I've been running tomcat for some time now
[12:45] <sorin7486> but I never got this problem
[12:45] <sorin7486> I think this time was the first time I installed it from the repo
[12:45] <runlevelten> have you visited http://localhost:8080
[12:45] <sorin7486> yes
[12:45] <sorin7486> It gave a blank page
[12:46] <sorin7486> thank's for the help guys
[12:47] <runlevelten> np :)
[12:47] <sorin7486> I learned a few new things tonight
[12:47] <redshadowhero> I fixed my wireless problem.
[12:47] <Materials> mommy why is the lying man still in charge of the law
[12:51] <chris122380> how do i get antimated wallpaper for KDE?
[12:52] <chris122380> how do i get antimated wallpaper for KDE?
[12:53] <chris122380> how do i get animated wallpaper for KDE?
[12:54] <redshadowhero> how do I stop spam?
[12:54] <chris122380> can't stop it best is to use a filter
[12:54] <redshadowhero> !repeat | chris122380
[12:54] <ubotu> chris122380: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:55] <redshadowhero> That's what I was looking for
[12:55] <chris122380> that is for ubuntu
[12:55] <chris122380> not kubuntu
[12:55] <chris122380> I have searched
[12:55] <chris122380> use thunderbird for e-mail
[12:55] <runlevelten> Investigate the desktop configuration options in KDE. You can use all sorts of animations.
[12:55] <chris122380> has a built in spam filter
[12:55] <chris122380> how do i get to that?
[12:56] <chris122380> I'd just like to have some of the animated wallpaper like one sees in vista
[12:56] <Selrach> question: how do I change the KDE menu sidebar? (the one that defaults to KDE with some gears on the side of the menu)
[12:57] <redshadowhero> chris122380: the only difference between kubuntu and ubuntu is the interface. I'm sure that if you search the ubuntu site, you may find what you are looking for.
[12:57] <chris122380> thats the problum is the interface
[12:57] <chris122380> KDE animated wallpaper and i have looked
[12:57] <chris122380> thats why I came in hear
[12:58] <boris_> does anyone have the RAGE PRO ULTRA GL AGP driver for grafical card
[12:58] <boris_> RAGE 128 PRO ULTRA GL AGP
[12:59] <venik> I have some picture files on my desktop, and their icons used to show a thumbnail version of the picture.  Now, all of a sudden, the thumbnails are gone.  How do I restore them?
[01:01] <chris122380> so i take it there is no way to do that
[01:02] <redshadowhero> like ubotu said, if nobody knows, nobody will answer.
[01:03] <Sanne> Selrach: what do you want to change?
[01:03] <chris122380> i whant to have antimated wallpaper
[01:04] <chris122380> like one sees in vista
[01:05] <Selrach> Sanne: I want to change the kmenu sidebar, the thing that appear to the left of your kmenu items
[01:05] <zombielion> ok i have tried to burn dvds from avis. i use devede to convert them well on transformers i tried 3 times and it wouldnt work. if it completed that only happened 1 time when i just tried to convert to mpg instead of the iso, it only had half the movie and it said it was done. and when i did 2 other movies that did convert all the way have lines that run across the screen like you get when you watch tv with bad reception why is
[01:05] <zombielion> this happening and is there another program other than devede
[01:05] <Selrach> appears*
[01:05] <Sanne> Selrach: you can change some things in System Settings->Panel
[01:06] <Selrach> I've tried looking
[01:06] <Selrach> i can't find a setting for what i'm wanting to do
[01:06] <kotul> is there a version of ubuntu that supports the old G3's
[01:06] <chris122380> yes
[01:06] <chris122380> power pc version
[01:06] <Sanne> Selrach: under Panles on the Menu tab you can set how the K-Menu looks and what is shown for the program entries
[01:07] <redshadowhero> though, it will probably show up as PPC
[01:07] <Prophezy> oki any soul that can show me how to fix my adept manager?
[01:07] <kotul> right but the old G3's I've dl'd three different versions oif linux but none of them recognize that old of hardware
[01:08] <Selrach> Configure - KDE Panel? this it?
[01:08] <_arafat> hi all! is there a possibility to upgrade _just_ the kernel? (from feisty to gutsy) all other packages should stay feisty-ish
[01:08] <redshadowhero> Well, it should be supported, I would think, considering that macs keep a standard hardware
[01:08] <kotul> just trying to check before I spend another useless 3 hours downloading more
[01:08] <zabadapp> Prophezy: what's wrong?
[01:09] <Sanne> Selrach: are you in System Settings?
[01:09] <Selrach> yea
[01:09] <Prophezy> zabadapp: well i tried to install pidgin.deb and now i cant get in to my adept manager  :(
[01:09] <Sanne> Selrach: try it, I'm still on Dapper and I guess System Settings changed a bit.
[01:09] <redshadowhero> kotul: you have downloaded the PPC version, right?
[01:09] <kotul> yes
[01:09] <Prophezy> i haved tried to kill it but without resuts
[01:09] <kotul> of Open suse and YDL
[01:10] <redshadowhero> kotul: but what about kubuntu?
[01:10] <kotul> no I dont usually use kubuntu I was checking this channel to see if anyone knew if it was able to run kubuntu
[01:11] <zabadapp> Prophezy: you don't have an running instance already?
[01:11] <Prophezy> zabadapp: it says : The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similiar problem
[01:12] <Prophezy> zabadapp: i haved tried to apt-setup & apt-get update whitout results
[01:13] <zabadapp> Prophezy: dpkg --configure -a  (is something I tried when running feisty beta and got stuck once)
[01:13] <kanpachi> hello :)
[01:14] <kotul> hello
[01:14] <kanpachi> how is everyone?
[01:14] <kotul> plotting
[01:14] <Prophezy> zabadapp: it says : dpkg request operation requires superuser privilege????
[01:14] <kanpachi> oh
[01:14] <Raystlin_FM> !aptfix | Prophezy
[01:14] <ubotu> Prophezy: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[01:15] <kanpachi> i'm having troubles with both ubuntu and kubuntu, i switched from ubuntu to kubuntu thinking it would be faster, and it still feels a bit sluggish though it's a bit better
[01:15] <rhkfin> Anyone know a software to recover files from a compact flash card, that have already once been overwritten?
[01:15] <zabadapp> Prophezy: yes, listen to ubotu ^^
[01:16] <Prophezy> hmmm
[01:16] <kanpachi> i have an athlon xp 2800 with 512 ram and 80 gb and a geforce 4 mx, could my graphic card holding me back?
[01:16] <Prophezy> i tried Ubotu . but still unlocked :(
[01:16] <kotul> nvidia is usually pretty well supported in linux its ati you have to look oput for :)
[01:16] <Raystlin_FM> Prophezy: what message do you get when you run that command?
[01:17] <Prophezy> Raystlin : kill process 6012? Y/N
[01:17] <kanpachi> and still, i have the legacy nvidia driver installed from nvidia.com, the nvidia-glx/legacy didn't do me any good, any way to free more ram on kubuntu?
[01:18] <rivel> has anyone used kubuntu on a powerpc system?
[01:18] <Raystlin_FM> Prophezy: answer yes
[01:18] <rivel> i have a imac and would like to try and install it
[01:18] <Prophezy> Raystlin : yes, but nothing happens
[01:19] <kotul> rivel: and I'm doing it on a g3 right now :)
[01:19] <Raystlin_FM> Prophezy: now run this: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:20] <kanpachi> any way to free more ram on kubuntu?
[01:21] <Prophezy> Raystlin: nothing happen.. it only goes back to my name@name prompt
[01:22] <kanpachi> ??
[01:22] <kotul> yes
[01:22] <Prophezy> Raystlin: prophezy@prophezy:~$ sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:22] <Prophezy> prophezy@prophezy:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:22] <Prophezy> prophezy@prophezy:~$
[01:25] <kotul> kanpachi : http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=24375744
[01:25] <redshadowhero> !PPC | kotul
[01:25] <ubotu> kotul: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[01:25] <redshadowhero> does that help?
[01:26] <kotul> I do realize what ppc is I'm downloading the ppc version of it right now
[01:27] <redshadowhero> kotul: the thing I wanted to note is that it was supported by ubuntu/kubuntu
[01:27] <kotul> I tryed going to th linux channel to see what distro was most compatible
[01:27] <kotul> and thought to go here so thank you my question is answered
[01:28] <redshadowhero> kotul: sorry it took so long to get that to you; I have about 500 things that need my attention...
[01:28] <kotul> np
[01:30] <hasan> how can i remove all . except last one ?
[01:30] <hasan> i mean how can i replace all . with _ but excluding last dot and extension part
[01:31] <zombielion> does anyone use devede
[01:31] <zabadapp> hasan: give an example
[01:32] <hasan> hi.world.how.is.it__salkfjalkdsjfasdlk.going.pdf
[01:32] <hasan> all the dots before .pdf should be replaced with _
[01:32] <zabadapp> and you want it to become hi_world_how_is_it_kfjdlskjf.pdf ?
[01:33] <hasan> for all other file extensions too
[01:33] <soulrider> hello everyone
[01:33] <kotul> perl!
[01:33] <hasan> yep that's what i want to do
[01:33] <kotul> wait I should clarify custom scripting oh joy!
[01:36] <zabadapp> hasan: that's probably something for a script ... keep looking here, a oneliner may turn up soon
[01:38] <kotul> hmm actually I might have an program I made awhile ago that could do that with a lttle messing with
[01:38] <redshadowhero> couldn't you use the sed command for that?
[01:39] <kotul> oh I was almost looking forward to finding that again :)
[01:39] <hasan> s/^(?:[^.] +(\.))+\.[^.] +/$1/g
[01:40] <hasan> does that make it ?
[01:40] <hasan> how do u test that here?
[01:40] <Azerias> hi
[01:40] <redshadowhero> hello
[01:40] <Azerias> how can I get a list of ALL the commands I have entered into the shell?
[01:41] <redshadowhero> previously entered?
[01:41] <redshadowhero> or all the commands that you CAN enter?
[01:41] <hasan> eval: echo asdkjasf.alskdfja.lkad_askfj10*92384128734.pdf | perl -wple 's/^(?:[^.] +(\.))+\.[^.] +/$1/g'
[01:41] <hasan> how do u send char for evaluationg from here?
[01:42] <hasan> echo asdkjasf.alskdfja.lkad_askfj10*92384128734.pdf | perl -wple 's/^(?:[^.] +(\.))+\.[^.] +/$1/g'
[01:42] <hasan> nope :)
[01:43] <hasan> boot wake up
[01:43] <hasan> :))
[01:43] <hasan> sorry about that i thought i were in perl channel
[01:43] <hasan> shame on me
[01:43] <hasan> :)
[01:43] <hasan> s/^(?:[^.] +(\.))+\.[^.] +/$1/g
[01:44] <hasan> how do i remove all dots but last one from a file name
[01:44] <hasan> in fact how can i replace all dots with _ excluding last one ?
[01:45] <hasan> eval: echo asl.aslkdf.129784912874!'^+!'%!'.asdjfaskl102348790!'^+'&/((+.| perl -wple 's/^(?:[^.] +(\.))+\.[^.] +/$1/g'
[01:50] <mike> Where is "file-manager super user mode"?
[01:50] <zabadapp> forward substitution with sed ?  $1 ? \1 ?
[01:50] <Chousuke> mike: why do you want to manage files in super user mode?
[01:50] <Sanne> mike: I made a kmenu entry for that myself
[01:51] <mike> to edit ect
[01:51] <Chousuke> mike: removing files used by root is usually not useful, and for other things you can just open and editor with kdesu
[01:51] <Chousuke> owned and an* even
[01:51] <mike> ok cheers
[01:51] <Prophezy> btw : do anyone know is theres some software like partition magic for Linux?
[01:51] <Sanne> mike: you should also have a right click action "edit as root" from normal mode konqueror
[01:52] <Chousuke> PriceChild: qtparted is a partition editor
[01:52] <Chousuke> er
[01:52] <Chousuke> Prophezy: even
[01:53] <Prophezy> even
[01:53] <Prophezy> oki i will try thanks
[01:54] <mike> Sanne: Works well,,cheers
[01:55] <Sanne> mike: you're welcome :)
[01:55] <mike> Cannot get beryl working though
[01:55] <mike> 1400fps
[01:55] <Sanne> never used that... sorry
[01:55] <mike> but ati,,hmm
[01:59] <dwyht_> hola o hello
[02:03] <zarilion> Is there anyway to get this http://www.datanytt.no/img/art/1185427566.sabayonmenu.png in Kubuntu ? the startmenu that is...
[02:06] <boris_> what is good download program for kubentu
[02:06] <boris_> kubuntu
[02:06] <Admiral_Chicago> what are you trying to  download
[02:07] <boris_> allman brothers
[02:07] <boris_> band
[02:08] <Admiral_Chicago> zarilion: not that i know of
[02:08] <Admiral_Chicago> !p2p
[02:08] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[02:08] <Admiral_Chicago> that link my help
[02:11] <zabadapp> hasan: echo "hi.there.all_you.pdf" | sed -e "s/\.\([^.] *\)$/\*\1/" -e "s/\./_/g" -e "s/\*/\./"
[02:13] <zabadapp> boris_: ktorrent is already included in kubuntu (in menu "internet")
[02:17] <shinda> quick question from the command line you can use mount -a to remount all drives from fstab, but is there a way to reconnect all other drives ie usb drives etc in similar fasion?
[02:22] <jimmybondo> How do I find what wireless driver I am running?
[02:30] <mike> I cannot run "alsaconf" in Kubuntu?
[02:33] <draik> What's a good app for brushing up on my typing?
[02:33] <draik> I'm getting pretty sloppy
[02:33] <draik> Not to mention dyslexic
[02:33] <runlevelten> tuxtype \o/
[02:34] <rdvonz> How do i get to the restricted drivers manager in kubuntu?
[02:34] <dwyht_> hello
[02:34] <dwyht_> spani, good
[02:34] <zabadapp> draik: search Add/Remove Programs for "typing" ... that shows me three different applications
[02:35] <draik> Thank you zabadapp
[02:35] <rdvonz> excuse me, How do i get to the restricted drivers manager in kubuntu
[02:36] <runlevelten> I press alt+f2 and type "restricted-manager"
[02:36] <rdvonz> thank you
[02:36] <mike> I cannot run "alsaconf" in Kubuntu? Has it been replaced?
[02:36] <runlevelten> If that doesn't work, you need to do sudo apt-get install restricted-manager
[02:36] <runlevelten> then try again :)
[02:36] <rdvonz> ok :)
[02:36] <jomoz> rdvonz: you can use the "add/remove" programs manager also
[02:37] <rdvonz> I think I will... apt-get is giving me problems anyways
[02:37] <rdvonz> I just got wiriless working though... i'm happy :)
[02:37] <zabadapp> rdvonz: yes, just mark the checkbox for propreitary software
[02:38] <zabadapp> (or unsupported?)
[02:38] <rdvonz> They are both checked anyways...
[02:38] <wimpies> do any of you also experience problems with hotplugging CDs in etch ?
[02:41] <mike> I am unable to configure alsa
[02:42] <crimsun> that's a bit vague.
[02:47] <boris_> how do i ajuste the resoluton of the moitor on kubuntu
[02:47] <ardchoille> !fixres | boris_
[02:47] <ubotu> boris_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:47] <bky> hi. i'm trying to make a theme for my kubuntu but i am having an issue finding one of the images i want to change
[02:48] <bky> it's the side bar on the start menu. does anyone know where the file for that is?
[02:48] <zabadapp> boris_: system settings -> monitor & display
[02:49] <mike> no "alsaconf' hmm
[02:49] <zabadapp> boris_: if you can't set desired resolution, you may have an nvidia card (or other) but not their closed driver.
[02:52] <zabadapp> mike: you could install alsa-tools ?
[02:52] <mike> I have
[02:52] <crimsun> mike: we don't ship alsaconf.  It's largely useless.
[02:52] <mike> strange
[02:53] <crimsun> (alsaconf would be shipped with alsa-utils.)
[02:53] <zabadapp> (well of course :)
[02:54] <mike> I have tools installed
[02:54] <mike> What is the best way to detect and configure sound cards
[02:54] <crimsun> what do you expect to gain with -tools installed?
[02:55] <crimsun> let udev do it.
[02:55] <crimsun> what's the real issue?
[02:55] <mike> no sound
[02:55] <crimsun> download http://www.trilug.org/~crimsun/alsa-info.sh and execute it.
[02:57] <rdvonz> I get an error when try to run the restricted drivers manager...
[02:59] <draik> Is anyone here Linux+ Certified?
[02:59] <halycon> hey guys how is everyone doing
[02:59] <halycon> ?
[03:00] <draik> I'm thinking about going for it, but I want to make sure it means something other than "I have another certificate"
[03:00] <halycon> I am having problems with the NTFS Configuration Tool
[03:00] <rdvonz> I get this error when running the restricted driver manager Command 'gksu -D /usr/share/applications/restricted-manager.desktop /usr/bin/restricted-manager ' not found.
[03:00] <halycon> for some reason it isn't loading at all and I tried looking in the log files for info on whats going on with it and it doesnt have anything that I could see
[03:01] <rdvonz> Isnt it because of the gksu
[03:01] <ranjan> hi i cannot see my files on sda5 its a jfs drive any ideas
[03:02] <ranjan> if i boot to my ubuntu partition i see them, but kubuntu does not show them
[03:02] <jomoz> rdvonz: actually, I get the same error. NOt sure why (I'm a kubuntu noob) - usually run gentoo.
[03:02] <rdvonz> jomoz: Im pretty sure its because it's trying to run it as a gnome super user... and we're running kde... not sure how to change it though
[03:05] <jomoz> yes, I try it in a shell and it says must be run as root.  I'll try to set DISPLAY and run from root shell.
[03:06] <jomoz> ok.... try "sudo restricted-manager"  in a konsole shell.  this worked for me.
[03:06] <zabadapp> ranjan: I have an idea ... if a jfs volume becomes "dirty", it will not mount ... if you have jfsutils installed you can get a diagnose (and repair if needed)
[03:07] <ofir24> hello
[03:07] <zerosan> Hello
[03:07] <ranjan> zabadapp: thanks let me try, i have not done it before so i'll need some help,
[03:07] <ofir24> any 1 here knows the software "eclipse"?
[03:07] <zerosan> I#ve got a little problem here, I've installed Kubuntu on a vmware, and now I want to install the vmware tools, well it's not working cause of the missing kernel headers, but I can't find them for the kernel "2.6.15-26-386"
[03:08] <ofir24> did try at www.kernel.org?
[03:08] <ofir24> (did u)
[03:08] <zerosan> nope, I didn't, well, I expected the kernel headers in the repository
[03:09] <ranjan> zabadapp: run jfs_fsck?
[03:09] <zabadapp> ranjan: sudo apt-get install jfsutils (or via adept (or synaptic)) ... then sudo jfs_fsck -f /dev/sda5 .... I did it once on my mythtv HTPC when the jfs-partition disappeared
[03:10] <ofir24> any 1 here knows the software "eclipse"?
[03:10] <dranas> I have a small problem, everynow and then for some reason my computer stops using the ati drivers i install and goes back to using the mesa ones, how do i stop it from doing that?
[03:10] <zabadapp> you can use -n also .. to for "read only" ... check --help for all options
[03:11] <ranjan> zabadapp: did that says filesystem is clean
[03:12] <Expecto> If someone can, I just pastebinned an output for an install simulation, and I'd like someone to double-check it and make sure i'm not gonna screw my system.
[03:12] <Expecto> http://pastebin.com/d2d965aa8
[03:12] <zerosan> where can I find the linux-headers for "2.6.15-26-386" ? I somehow can't find them on kernel.org
[03:12] <zabadapp> ranjan: ok .. for me it said "clean" until I forced check ... but is you /etc/fstab ok? do you ever mount it?
[03:12] <ranjan> zabadapp: yes its mounted
[03:14] <zerosan> maybe anyone has a repository where they are included?
[03:14] <zabadapp> ranjan: but "df" doesn't show it?
[03:14] <crimsun> zerosan: there're not on kernel.org; they're on archive.ubuntu.com
[03:14] <crimsun> they're ^
[03:14] <ranjan> whats df?
[03:14] <zabadapp> terminal command ... shows all partitions
[03:15] <ranjan> it shows in storage media but when i double click the drive it shows no files
[03:15] <zabadapp> (mounted parts,)
[03:15] <joey__> anyone know what the most versitile linux/unix system is?
[03:15] <chuck> !ftp
[03:15] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[03:15] <ranjan> yes df show it
[03:15] <chuck> !ftpd
[03:15] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[03:16] <ranjan> zabadapp: df says 1% use but thats not correct
[03:16] <zabadapp> ranjan: but it's not just a mountpoint and it really isn't mounted? "df" will show it if really mounted
[03:17] <zabadapp> ah, ok
[03:17] <ranjan> zabadapp: don't know what to do :(
[03:19] <zabadapp> ranjan: i still think you should try a jfs_fsck -f (for forced check, unless you already tried that)
[03:20] <ranjan> zabadapp: i already did -f and then -a
[03:20] <zabadapp> sounds bad :-(
[03:20] <ranjan> do i have to unmount it before
[03:22] <zabadapp> according to man jfs_fsck, it should only be done on an unmounted system
[03:23] <ranjan> oops
[03:26] <zabadapp> since you haven't written anything to the mounted disk nothing should have happened
[03:30] <stoned> yay! I just got my kubuntu cds in the mail today!
[03:31] <stoned> is it possible to do a server install on the regular cd
[03:31] <Minataku> SunOS Usada 4.1.4 2 sun4m << uname -a output from my SPARCstation 10 :3
[03:31] <stoned> or would ubuntu get installed
[03:31] <stoned> with gnome and stuff?
[03:33] <zabadapp> i think not, but the server meta-package can be installed (dont know its name), and the ubuntu-desktop package can be removed .. then its pretty close i think
[03:34] <truefx> how can i login as root ?
[03:34] <truefx> in kubuntu ?
[03:34] <zabadapp> but the server-pkg is online of course and not on you desktop-cd
[03:35] <draik> does anyone here know of a mobile app for remoting into Kubuntu?
[03:36] <redshadowhero> other than ssh?
[03:37] <draik> Can a mobile phone ssh?
[03:37] <zabadapp> truefx: there is no root ... use "sudo bash" to get a sort of root shell
[03:37] <truefx> i want to graphically lon on
[03:37] <truefx> log on
[03:38] <zabadapp> truefx: or the correct way: sudo -i  ... (just learned)
[03:38] <truefx> or sudo -s -H
[03:39] <truefx> without changing current directory
[03:39] <truefx> but that's not what im asking how can i log on graphically as root
[03:40] <zabadapp> truefx: you probably must add a root user then ...
[03:41] <zabadapp> truefx: or correction, make the available root user a user with a homedirectory and so on
[03:44] <runlevelten> draik: I use midpssh
[03:45] <draik> !info midpssh
[03:45] <zabadapp> ah, i think if you change passwd as root, you will turn it into a regular user (it will alter /etc/shadow)
[03:45] <runlevelten> open source ssh client for mobiles.
[03:45] <ubotu> Package midpssh does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[03:45] <draik> :(
[03:45] <runlevelten> http://sourceforge.net/projects/midpssh
[03:46] <runlevelten> It's a J2ME you drop on your mobile phone and run from there.
[03:46] <runlevelten> That is what you were asking, right?
[03:46] <runlevelten> "can a mobile ssh"
[03:46] <runlevelten> *J2ME app
[03:46] <Minataku> !root
[03:46] <ubotu> do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[03:47] <Minataku> Hm
[03:47] <Minataku> I thought there was one that told the REAL truth
[03:47] <Minataku> YOU DO NOT DO EVERYDAY TASKS AS ROOT. EVER.
[03:48] <draik> runlevelten: JAD or JAR for the phone?
[03:48] <runlevelten> I use the jar
[03:48] <draik> Who's trying to use root?
[03:48] <Minataku> draik: They're gone
[03:48] <Minataku> Some guy wanted to login to KDE as root
[03:49] <draik> runlevelten: Thank you. Sorry, I didn't read your other messages.
[03:49] <stoned> I am root
[03:49] <draik> Minataku: Why? I hope they fail... miserably!
[03:49] <runlevelten> draik: np. midpssh ftw.
[03:49] <Minataku> draik: No clue
[03:49] <stoned> my root password is so strong no one can crack it or guess it
[03:49] <draik> Isn't there a way of blocking root altogether?
[03:50] <runlevelten> there's a VNC client, too, although I've never even tried to use it.
[03:50] <draik> stoned: pw = brick?
[03:50] <runlevelten> stoned: pencil
[03:50] <stoned> its urat0ol
[03:50] <draik> Not anymore it's not :)
[03:50] <runlevelten> draik: just installed it in case
[03:51] <klobster> stoned: pwd == "so strong no one can crack it or guess it"
[03:51] <stoned> best pw ever
[03:51] <stoned> I swear
[03:52] <redshadowhero> pwd == "JDHuih86@KKHkbb65kkh2yYM"
[03:52] <redshadowhero> MUAHAHAHAHAH
[03:52] <klobster> pw == *******
[03:53] <draik> I have winxp in VMware WorkStation... I am having issues connecting to my phone because of a driver (Ipaq). How do I stop it in Kubuntu if it's not listed as a device or anything?
[03:53] <runlevelten> draik, there are a few open source gems for phones around sf and the wider web.
[03:54] <stoned> I suppose no one got the joke
[03:55] <stoned> oh well
[03:55] <stoned> Lag: 73 (??)
[03:55] <stoned> !ping
[03:55] <ubotu> pong
[03:55] <stoned> no man
[03:55] <stoned> my password was
[03:55] <stoned> urat0ol
[03:55] <stoned> get it
[03:55] <stoned> u r a tool
[03:55] <stoned> ?
[03:56] <mneptok> oh thank gawd
[03:56] <redshadowhero> just kidding.
[03:59] <runlevelten> Wow, there's a j2me google talk client.
[04:12] <hdh> 
[04:13] <hdh> 
[04:13] <draik> ...?
[04:14] <hdh> 
[04:14] <Minataku> !cn | hdh
[04:14] <ubotu> hdh: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[04:15] <Minataku> truefx: DO NOT USE ROOT FOR EVERYDAY TASKS
[04:15] <Minataku> Log out NOW and log back in as a normal user account
[04:15] <joules> the ubuntu  channel doesnt seem to know the answer to this so maybe you guys know i compiled a deb through alien... it seemed to run fine but now it doesnt let me access updates, or synaptic however i cant install it
[04:16] <stdin> Minataku: preach much :p
[04:16] <truefx> ???
[04:16] <truefx> how do u know that i use root account ?
[04:16] <Minataku> truefx: One, you were asking about it earlier
[04:16] <Minataku> Two, your identd is "root"
[04:16] <truefx> :)))
[04:16] <Minataku> Which is a dead giveaway :3
[04:16] <truefx> :))
[04:16] <Minataku> Seriously though
[04:16] <joules> haha
[04:16] <Minataku> Bad idea
[04:17] <dranas> does anyone know how to install cursor themes?
[04:17] <truefx> ok
[04:17] <truefx> i see
[04:17] <Minataku> It's highly recommended that you log out now and use a normal user account
[04:17] <truefx> why  bad idea
[04:17] <stdin> joules: try "sudo apt-get -f install" in a terminal
[04:17] <Minataku> Using root for everyday tasks is dangerous
[04:17] <truefx> can u take control of my computer immediately?
[04:17] <truefx> in what way tell me more about it
[04:17] <Minataku> Sure, why not
[04:17] <truefx> i cant hurt myself
[04:17] <Minataku> Yes, you can
[04:17] <Minataku> And so can any program you're running
[04:18] <dranas> you might accidently overwrite a config file and boom
[04:18] <stdin> truefx: if there is a security hole in the X server, and you're running it as root, then your system can go boom :)
[04:18] <truefx> but my system is not so valuable
[04:18] <Minataku> To give you an idea of why... Windows by default runs as root
[04:18] <truefx> just an ordinary fool linux user
[04:18] <Minataku> truefx: Yes it is
[04:18] <Daisuke_Ido> truefx: are you a troll?
[04:18] <Minataku> I could take it over and make it serve porn
[04:18] <hacker128> hi
[04:18] <truefx> i format my computer in every month
[04:18] <Daisuke_Ido> not a troll, an idiot.
[04:18] <truefx> the values of bits are not so important
[04:18] <dranas> omg
[04:18] <truefx> im an idiot
[04:18] <dranas> fine run as root
[04:18] <Minataku> All I'd need you to do is run a rootkit
[04:19] <truefx> je suis un grand idiot
[04:19] <Minataku> Lucky I'm not that kind of person
[04:19] <dranas> when you mess up a config or something and get the black screen of death
[04:19] <Daisuke_Ido> truefx: as they say in france, LE DUH
[04:19] <truefx> celui-ci qui peux parler dans plusiers langues
[04:19] <truefx> como dices ?
[04:19] <truefx> was soll ich machen jetzt ?
[04:19] <stdin> !en
[04:19] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[04:19] <truefx> :)
[04:19] <joules> stdin: i guess i was not clear .. this package that i made is not letting me access synaptic and broke my gdtg or w.e so now i cant install or unisntall or update or anything :(
[04:19] <hacker128> furrfu
[04:19] <truefx> ok ok
[04:19] <truefx> ill log out
[04:20] <truefx> u r very angry about my level of idiotness
[04:20] <joules> so i want to take that thing off but it wont let me cause i need to reinstall it .. its a vicious circle
[04:20] <truefx> :)
[04:20] <hacker128> what message do you get
[04:20] <Minataku> For the record, I didn't say you were an idiot
[04:20] <Minataku> Nor do I think you are
[04:20] <stdin> joules: normally "sudo apt-get -f install" will fix that issue
[04:20] <Daisuke_Ido> you are displaying the intelligence of "Joe Windowsuser", we'd like to think you have more sense than that.
[04:21] <hacker128> joules: what message are you getting
[04:21] <truefx> perl -wnls's/(^.*)idiot(.*)/$1genious$2/g
[04:21] <joules> hacker128: E: The package z600cups needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[04:21] <stdin> truefx: wouldn't sed be easier than perl :p
[04:21] <Daisuke_Ido> ah, you speak perl.  you're a soulless minion of satan, i take it? :)
[04:22] <hacker128> try dpkg --configure -a
[04:22] <hacker128> or apt-get remove z600cups
[04:22] <stdin> joules: it's reccomended to convert the RPMs to a tar for the z600 cups driver, lot less issues
[04:23] <joules> stdin: E: The package z600cups needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[04:23] <hacker128> then apt-get install z600cups
[04:24] <stdin> joules: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/the/deb/file.deb
[04:24] <hacker128> yeah.. i feel so stupid now..
[04:25] <hacker128> but if he cant find an archive, he cant find the deb!
[04:25] <stdin> hacker128: that seems to be a message from apt/dpkg
[04:25] <joules> stdin: ah .. im amazed you know about this but my issue is not installing that anymore but its making my update/synaptic work again ill do that tho
[04:26] <hacker128> try the commands i said a while back.
[04:26] <stdin> joules: after you resolve the issue, synaptic will work
[04:26] <hacker128> yup
[04:26] <dranas> any idea how to install x11 cursurs?
[04:26] <stdin> joules: synaptic and the like are dumb, they don't deal with errors well
[04:27] <hacker128> yeah. i use synaptic to find packages : apt-get to install
[04:27] <hacker128> because adept cant find nothing
[04:27] <stdin> dranas: system settings  Keyboard & Mouse  Mouse  cursor theme  install new theme
[04:28] <stdin> hacker128: they both use apt, they both are just frontends to apt
[04:28] <dranas> oi i feel stupid
[04:28] <dranas> lol
[04:28] <hacker128> OK. I have an airport card in my ibook g4. Every time I boot it up, I have to reconfigure my network
[04:29] <hacker128> Any ideas?
[04:29] <george2002> hola
[04:29] <stdin> hacker128: did you use system settings to configure it
[04:29] <stdin> !es | george2002
[04:29] <ubotu> george2002: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:29] <george2002> hello
[04:29] <hacker128> stdin: no. i type sudo wlassistant
[04:30] <hacker128> iwconfig doesnt work
[04:30] <dranas> what format should a cursor theme be?
[04:30] <mmHg> hi all - I'm having a little trouble getting the accelerated nvidia drivers working.  I'm running feisty and using an NV 8600.  I've tried everything from envy on down to a manual installation without any luck.  Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong?
[04:30] <joules> stdin: ok i did that and i think it worked but im still getting this error when i open synaptic "the package z600cups neeeds to be reinstalled, but i have no archive for it""internal eeror opening cache(1) please report"
[04:30] <stdin> hacker128: system settings  network should work too
[04:31] <hacker128> i tried... it doesnt.
[04:31] <stdin> joules: now try "sudo apt-get -f install" see what it says
[04:31] <stdin> h
[04:31] <hacker128> also, monitor mode requires a restart to exit.
[04:31] <stdin> hacker128: hmm, works here. what version of kubuntu?
[04:31] <hacker128> dapper
[04:31] <stdin> ahh
[04:31] <hacker128> i had fiesty
[04:32] <hacker128> and it worked there.
[04:32] <joules> still giving me the same error "E: The package z600cups needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[04:32] <joules> "
[04:32] <stdin> yeah, dapper isn't great with wireless, I'm not sure there is a way
[04:32] <hacker128> ok.but it works, other than that. Does 5.04 work
[04:32] <stdin> joules: ok, was there any messages when you did "sudo dpkg -i ....." ?
[04:33] <stdin> hacker128: 5.04? that's not supported anymore
[04:33] <hacker128> i know.
[04:33] <dranas> how do i manually install cursor themes?
[04:33] <joules> stdin: ill send you the bin just a sec
[04:34] <stdin> dranas: you just point the installer at the theme file
[04:34] <dranas> i did and it says its an invalid theme file
[04:34] <hacker128> i wasnt going to install it. I just wondered if it was Fiesty is better at wireless of Dapper sucks at wireless.
[04:34] <stdin> dranas: make sure the theme is for kde3.x
[04:35] <joules> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31502/
[04:35] <stdin> hacker128: feisty is 7.04, not 5.04
[04:35] <hacker128> i konw!
[04:35] <hacker128> thats know
[04:35] <hacker128> sorry
[04:35] <stdin> yeah, feisty should work
[04:35] <hacker128> oh.
[04:36] <dranas> im not looking for kde themes its X11 mouse cursor themes
[04:36] <hacker128> theree is no such thing as x11 cursor themes.
[04:36] <hacker128> I cant type!
[04:36] <stdin> joules: that deb has bad scripts, you'll need to remove it
[04:37] <dranas> then y does it say it on kde-look as X11 mouse themes?
[04:37] <joules> stdin: i want to remove it thats what i have been trying to do for the past 2 hours
[04:37] <joules> but it just wont!
[04:38] <stdin> joules: yeah, I'm looking at the scripts for it so you can
[04:38] <ekrengel> where do i find out what version of kde im running?
[04:39] <stdin> ekrengel: "kde-config --version" or "Help -> About KDE" from any KDE app
[04:40] <ekrengel> thanks
[04:41] <stdin> joules: ok, open konsole, in there type "echo "" | sudo tee /var/lib/dpkg/info/z600cups.{postrm,postinst}" (copy and paste between the 1st and last quotes)
[04:42] <stdin> ^all on one line
[04:43] <joules> stdin: nothing happened
[04:44] <stdin> joules: good :), now try "sudo dpkg -r z600cups" to remove the package
[04:44] <stdin> joules: then follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/LexmarkMultifuncPrinters
[04:45] <joules> it said error processing z600cups
[04:45] <joules> (remove)
[04:45] <stdin> post it to pastebin for me
[04:45] <joules> stdin:  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[04:46] <stdin> joules: ok, try installing it again then, with dpkg -i , see if that helps
[04:49] <joules> stdin: same error i got the first time i thought we established this was a bad deb
[04:49] <stdin> hmm
[04:50] <makuseru> how do i remove a package with dpkg?
[04:50] <stoned> I have a regular ubuntu cd, can I install ubuntu without gnome?
[04:50] <stoned> is there a way to pass the kernel boot params?
[04:50] <Biovore> yes
[04:50] <stone_> you looking for kde stoned?
[04:50] <joules> i thought it was sudo dpkg -r <package>
[04:50] <makuseru> thank you
[04:51] <stoned> I boot with the cd and I only see a graphical menu with no option to enter params
[04:51] <Biovore> stoned: if you want to install a miniumal system (no graphics) try that alternate installer
[04:51] <stoned> stone_: yes I am, but I don't want to install gnome along with the cd and then remove it
[04:51] <stoned> Biovore: I ordered the cds
[04:51] <Daisuke_Ido> so download a kubuntu iso >_>
[04:51] <stoned> only have ubuntu
[04:52] <stoned> no burner
[04:52] <stdin> joules: ok, try this then (replacing file.deb with the path to the z600cups file). "sudo dpkg --unpack file.deb" then "echo "" | sudo tee /var/lib/dpkg/info/z600cups.postinstall " then "dpkg --configure z600cups"
[04:52] <Daisuke_Ido> that's a bummer
[04:52] <Daisuke_Ido> then you're pretty much SOL.
[04:52] <stoned> I could always install ubuntu in a chroot
[04:52] <stoned> well I dunno
[04:52] <Biovore> stoned: install it and then remove gnome-desktop and install kubuntu-desktop after you reboot.
[04:52] <stdin> makuseru: sudo dpkg -r PackageName
[04:52] <stoned> I have issues with amd64
[04:53] <stoned> Biovore: I have a core 2 e6300 @ 3.5ghz and amd64 keeps being extremely unstable or me
[04:53] <stoned> for*
[04:53] <stoned> Biovore: however 32bit runs beautifully, rock solid
[04:53] <stoned> I bought this cpu so I could OC it
[04:53] <stoned> however i seems I might have to clock down to use amd64
[04:54] <stoned> which to me defeats the purpose.  sorry for takin gup so many lines but I have an itcy pinky and it keeps hitting enter.
[04:54] <stoned> the piont is, I dunno wtf to do
[04:54] <Biovore> stoned: the 64bit works different..
[04:54] <stoned> so it is hardware related with 64 bit isn't it?
[04:55] <Biovore> Its technicaly a new architecture..
[04:55] <Biovore> intell machines that are 64bit are known as EMT64
[04:55] <Biovore> they technicaly should be compatiable with AMD64.. but there are differences..
[04:55] <stoned> I am aware
[04:56] <stoned> I'm talking about my memory at such high clockspeeds
[04:56] <Biovore> I have dapper working fine on AMD64
[04:56] <stoned> more than likely its memory issues under 64bit
[04:56] <raw700> my cardbus doesn't load, and my bios uses APM, but only ACPI is trying to load, any help ?
[04:57] <stone_> anyone know how to get beryl or compiz working properly on kubuntu?
[04:57] <Biovore> Having 64bit accumulators and multipliers only helps on certain processing task.. the boost isn't all the much.. And the memory requirements for some things now double..
[04:57] <stoned> I have not yet however tested amd64 with default fsb:dram
[04:57] <Biovore> could be that the rax/rab register operations won't work right when you overclock..
[04:57] <stdin> stone_: for help with beryl/compiz, try asking in #ubuntu-effects
[04:57] <stoned> its something alright
[04:59] <joules> stdin: it doesnt let me enter the first line .. without giving me the error
[04:59] <stdin> what error?
[04:59] <stoned> stdin: hey there
[04:59] <stdin> hey :)
[05:00] <stoned> Biovore: I did notice a lot of speed increase while compiling software under amd64
[05:00] <stoned> Biovore: it was freaking > >>> >>>>FAST!
[05:03] <stone_> no one wanted to help me in #ubuntu-effects forum
[05:03] <stdin> huh, no one wants to help you??
[05:05] <stone_> trying to get beryl working
[05:05] <stdin> how are you installing it? and on what version of kubuntu?
[05:06] <stone_> used add/remove programs and on fiesty
[05:06] <joules> stdin:  what would be the whole command line for the command  --force-remove-reinstreq
[05:07] <stdin> joules: sudo dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq z600cups
[05:08] <stdin> stone_: what's not working?
[05:08] <stone_> first no bar at the top of windows, then just a white screen
[05:08] <stdin> stone_: what graphics hardware?
[05:08] <stone_> Nvidia MX4000
[05:09] <stdin> stone_: have you got the binary driver?
[05:09] <Daisuke_Ido> you're going to need the legacy driver -_-
[05:10] <stone_> open konsole and type "sudo apt-get install nvidia glx-legacy" right?
[05:10] <stdin> stone_: nvidia-glx-legacy
[05:12] <stone_> Get some kind of error about unmet dependencies...
[05:12] <stdin> stone_: pastebin it
[05:13] <mankeletor> anybody knows a nice network monitor?
[05:14] <stdin> mankeletor: knetload
[05:14] <joules> stdin: yap that didnt work ....
[05:14] <stone_> looks like the error had to do with sunjava5
[05:14] <stdin> joules: what was the output ?
[05:14] <mankeletor> i'll check it out, thanks stdin =)
[05:14] <voidmage> this is very strange
[05:14] <stdin> stone_: pastebin the output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:14] <joules> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31508/
[05:15] <voidmage> if I have kpdf open for a long period of time the sound system stops working until i kill kpdf
[05:15] <stone_> one sec...I think I fixed the error...
[05:15] <voidmage> feisty and gutsy
[05:15] <stone_> how's gusty?
[05:15] <stone_> I haven't checked it out yet
[05:15] <voidmage> pretty stable, but i still can't recommend it per community policy
[05:15] <voidmage> :P
[05:15] <voidmage> do not use on production systems, etc
[05:16] <Daisuke_Ido> heh, gusty
[05:16] <stone_> I'm still really new to linux, kde, ubuntu, etc.
[05:16] <stdin> joules: try "sudo nano /var/lib/dpkg/info/z600cups.postinstall" at the top put in "#!/bin/sh" then on the line under it, put "exit 0", then press Ctrl-O then Ctrl-X
[05:16] <Daisuke_Ido> gusty gibbon...  that just offers up a mental picture of an animal with bad gas :\
[05:16] <stdin> stone_: then try the removal command again
[05:17] <draik> Hello stdin
[05:17] <stdin> hi draik
[05:17] <stone_> you want me to remove beryl now or try the nvidia update?
[05:18] <stdin> stone_: well, 1st try the update
[05:19] <joules> stdin: ok done
[05:20] <stone_> had to restart x window cause of beryl
[05:20] <stone_> so, should I remove it and then try to reinstall?
[05:20] <stdin> joules: try "sudo dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq z600cups" again
[05:20] <stdin> stone_: shouldn't matter
[05:21] <stone_> k, so what is the next step to getting it to work?
[05:22] <stdin> stone_: after you've setup nvidia, you should install "beryl", "emerald" and "emerald-themes" (or make sure they are installed)
[05:22] <draik> stone_: I have an nVidia GeForce FX 5700LE (nvidia-glx-new)
[05:22] <stone_> use adept to get emerald?
[05:22] <joules> stdin:  hold on i think i got it to finally install
[05:23] <draik> stone_: My first issue what that I didn't have the right nvidia-glx-??? package installed
[05:23] <stdin> stone_: use apt-get, it'll post any errors then
[05:23] <stone_> Draik, you know how to determine if I have the right one?
[05:23] <draik> stone_: I had to use the CLI to revert to basics and then install the correct nvidia-glx-??? package
[05:23] <stone_> I'm using nvidia MX4000
[05:23] <stdin> joules: it won't be properly installed with that. follow this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/LexmarkMultifuncPrinters
[05:23] <draik> !nvidia
[05:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:24] <joules> stdin: really wish i had seen that before
[05:24] <draik> stone_: Try "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy"
[05:25] <draik> stone_: From the website::: Below are the legacy GPUs that are no longer supported in the unified driver. These GPUs will continue to be maintained through the special legacy NVIDIA GPU driver releases.
[05:25] <stone_> says I already have newest version
[05:25] <draik> Then you should be fine
[05:26] <stone_> Still can't get beryl working.  lose window decoration
[05:26] <stdin> make sure you've ran the setup command
[05:26] <joules> stdin: see what i did was make .debs from those rpms
[05:26] <draik> stone_: Do you mean you have no borders on the windows?
[05:26] <stone_> correct
[05:27] <stdin> joules: yeah, with some things converting to debs just won't work. especially for old packages (like the z600 driver)
[05:27] <draik> EASY fix... Sorry for the runaround
[05:27] <stone_> according to adept I did not have emerald themes installed
[05:27] <stone_> installing now
[05:27] <stone_> done
[05:27] <draik> stone_: "sudo apt-get install linux-generic && sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24"
[05:27] <stdin> stone_: make sure you are using the nvidia driver, installing it is not enough
[05:28] <draik> That will fix it for you stone_
[05:28] <draik> stone_: You will need the 2nd part (after &&) to have the borders
[05:29] <stone_> says linux is already newest version, and nvidia-xconfig command is not found
[05:29] <mike__> Where can i set the screensaver?
[05:29] <mike__> new install
[05:30] <mike__> Cannot find it in system settings
[05:30] <stone_> do I need to make sure I have "restricted components" enables?
[05:30] <stone_> *enabled
[05:30] <stdin> mike__: it's under "desktop" in "look and feel"
[05:31] <draik> stone_: nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals --composite
[05:31] <mike__> cheers draik ,,founf it
[05:31] <draik> mike__: .....??? o.O
[05:32] <mike__> lol
[05:32] <stone_> how do I paste what my error says?
[05:32] <stone_> for you to see?
[05:32] <stdin> !pastebin
[05:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:32] <draik> !pastebin | stone_
[05:32] <ubotu> stone_: please see above
[05:32] <george2002> hola
[05:32] <mike__> sorry ,,meant stdin
[05:33] <draik> Hello george2002
[05:33] <draik> NP mike__
[05:33] <george2002> hello draik
[05:33] <george2002> channel spani?
[05:33] <stdin> !es | george2002
[05:33] <ubotu> george2002: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:33] <mike__> pclos crappe on my new lappy,Kubuntu has been good
[05:34] <arun> How do I find out which ports are open for me?
[05:34] <george2002> ok
[05:34] <draik> !sp
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <george2002> good
[05:34] <stone_> what is the syntax?
[05:34] <stdin> arun: sudo netstat -lnp
[05:34] <draik> none/text
[05:35] <arun> what am i looking for here
[05:35] <arun> stdin: all of them say streaming + listening
[05:35] <stone_> then download as text?
[05:35] <arun> that's a good thing right
[05:35] <stone_> sorry, I'm still new
[05:35] <draik> Just give us the link
[05:35] <stdin> arun: look in the top part, with "Active Internet connections (only servers)"
[05:35] <draik> stone_: Once you create the post, give us the link
[05:35] <stone_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31510/
[05:36] <arun> stdin: if i enter that port in azureus, it says 'nat error'
[05:36] <draik> stone_: sudo apt-get install nvidia-xconfig
[05:37] <draik> THEN...
[05:37] <draik> stone_: nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals --composite
[05:37] <stdin> arun: are you behind a firewall/router ?
[05:37] <joules> stdin: thanks for your helppp :)
[05:37] <draik> stone_: sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24
[05:37] <stone_> Invalid commandline, please run `nvidia-xconfig --help` for usage information.
[05:37] <draik> Did you install nvidia-xconfig ?
[05:38] <arun> stdin: i think so, not sure.. any way i can disable the firewall or open some ports?
[05:38] <stone_> yes, says it is the most current version
[05:39] <stone_> do I need to restart x window?
[05:39] <stdin> arun: you have to configure your router to forward the ports you need to your IP address
[05:39] <draik> stone_: That might work. But it should let you do something either way.
[05:40] <steve__> i do i find out what my port number is
[05:40] <draik> arun: portforward.com has detailed instructions for any modem/router and app
[05:40] <arun> draik: thanks
[05:40] <stdin> steve__: it'll be in the azureus settings
[05:40] <draik> arun: NP. Saved myself some strenuous times with that site
[05:41] <stone_> maybe I need glx-new?
[05:41] <steve__> what is azureus
[05:41] <stone_> torrent downloader...I think
[05:41] <voidmage> steve__: azureus is a torrent client
[05:42] <stone_> Steve, I'm using utorrent
[05:42] <stone_> wine opened it just fine
[05:43] <steve__> im using ktorrent
[05:43] <steve__> i found it
[05:43] <stone_> ktorrent seemed to be really slow for me
[05:44] <stdin> the client doesn't effect the speed, it's the number/quality of the seeders
[05:44] <stone_> draik, any other thoughts?
[05:49] <draik> stone_: Sorry, I'm out of ideas other than a restart
[05:51] <stone_> maybe I should just completely remove beryl and nvidia drivers and start over?
[05:52] <stone_> maybe compiz will work better
[05:55] <michael__> hi
[05:55] <michael__> i am having trouble with libstdc++6
[05:58] <hitmanWilly> michael__, what's the issue?
[06:00] <michael__> i wanted to install latest version of firefox
[06:00] <michael__> and when i compile libstdc++6 is not found
[06:00] <michael__> i think i installed gcc
[06:00] <michael__> and it says it can't find any c compiler
[06:01] <steve__> howdo i figure out the port number of my friends dell laptop(its windows os)
[06:01] <draik> stone_: Beryl has been discontinued. Compiz is continuing. Could have something to do with that.
[06:01] <draik> steve__: That's is too vague. The port for what?
[06:02] <hitmanWilly> michael__, install build-essential
[06:02] <steve__> like his ip (already known) and port number
[06:02] <stone_> I'll try compiz
[06:02] <stone_> thanks
[06:02] <stone_> do you know if I still need the nvidia drivers?
[06:02] <draik> steve__: You just asked: "My friend is flying into a big international airport and I want to know which door he will be coming out from.
[06:02] <draik> stone_: Yes, you will.
[06:02] <hitmanWilly> michael__, and if that doesn't fix it, install libstdc++6-dev
[06:02] <draik> steve__: You have yet to provide the reason for the port (the airline)
[06:03] <stone_> the legacy driver, right?
[06:03] <draik> stone_: That is correct
[06:03] <steve__> nevermind i got my bad
[06:03] <michael__> ok
[06:03] <stone_> cool, thanks.
[06:03] <draik> NP, best of luck
[06:04] <michael__> hey does anyone know how to install xfce ontop of kubuntu
[06:04] <draik> BTW, confirm with someone else that you are in deed on the legacy chipset. I may be wrong and that is why it's not working
[06:04] <draik> michael__: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:04] <hitmanWilly> michael__, either xfce by itself, or xubuntu-desktop
[06:04] <draik> michael__: I have it installed
[06:04] <ice9__> anybody know anything about the Gens emulator? Getting some cackly sounds
[06:05] <hitmanWilly> ice9__, it may just have buggy sound implementation
[06:05] <ice9__> well the thing is, when I minimize it, the sound is fine and crystal clear
[06:05] <michael__> tried that
[06:05] <michael__> it can't find the package
[06:05] <ice9__> but when I bring it up again, its distorted
[06:05] <draik> michael__: which package?
[06:05] <draik> !xubuntu-desktop
[06:05] <hitmanWilly> !find libstdc++6-dev
[06:05] <michael__> xubuntu-desktop
[06:06] <draik> !info xubuntu-desktop
[06:06] <ubotu> k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[06:06] <ubotu> File libstdc++6-dev found in libstdc++6-dev
[06:06] <michael__> maybe there is something wrong sith my sources.list
[06:06] <ubotu> xubuntu-desktop: Xubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 2.29 (feisty), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB
[06:06] <hitmanWilly> michael__, are you sure you typed it right?
[06:06] <draik> Yeah, what hitmanWilly said.
[06:06] <michael__> yes
[06:07] <draik> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:07] <draik> Copy and paste that
[06:07] <michael__> let me try it again
[06:07] <michael__> E: Couldn't find package xubuntu-desktop
[06:07] <michael__> that is what it said
[06:07] <michael__> i copy pasted what you wrote
[06:08] <Expecto> anyone have a clue why my super key wouldn't work?
[06:08] <aib> michael__ i would like to see the output of `ls /usr/lib | grep libstdc++'
[06:08] <stone_> now it is telling me that "glx-new" is interfering with "legacy" install
[06:08] <michael__> ok
[06:08] <stone_> I tried to remove "glx-new" and it says that it is not installed
[06:08] <draik> stone_: Then that means that you've had -new installed the whole time
[06:08] <draik> Removed -new and install -legacy
[06:08] <draik> stone_: Ok.
[06:09] <michael__> libstdc++.so.6
[06:09] <michael__> libstdc++.so.6.0.7
[06:09] <stone_> when I try to remove it tells me that there is no "glx-new"
[06:09] <draik> Install -legacy. It will automatically remove -new
[06:09] <michael__> that is waht it said
[06:09] <stone_> Cant install legacy because it is interfering with -new
[06:09] <stone_> I'll fully install -new then try to remove it
[06:09] <draik> Select Y for yes
[06:10] <draik> It will remove -new and install -legacy
[06:10] <michael__> hey do you guys mind if you show me your sources.list file??
[06:11] <draik> michael__: Not a problem...
[06:11] <draik> !pastebin
[06:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:11] <michael__> ok
[06:11] <steve__> my firend is controlling my conputer with his laptop, how do i do that to his computer and how can we share files?
[06:11] <Sorrento|> Hi, I got lost power to my machine while doing an update, and now I am getting the error: Reading Package Lists... Error!
[06:12] <Sorrento|> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[06:12] <draik> michael__: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31515/
[06:12] <Sorrento|> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status
[06:12] <michael__> ok
[06:12] <Sorrento|> e: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened
[06:12] <Sorrento|> How would I fix this?
[06:13] <draik> steve__: 1) you're desktop sharing/streaming 2)Cannot file share through stream/sharing 3)You sure you want to open up to someone?
[06:14] <steve__> yeah he is right next to me
[06:14] <draik> !ssh | steve__
[06:14] <ubotu> steve__: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[06:14] <steve__> will gftp work for that yo
[06:14] <steve__> to*
[06:15] <dem0nseed> im going to have to have you on the phone when i do it because if it fails you can still be in irc askin i will have no os
[06:15] <dem0nseed> opps
[06:15] <dem0nseed> i installed ubuntu and shit but when i type startx its like starting gui then it just stops with screen black something about i need to start my gui engin
[06:16] <NickPresta> dem0nseed, you're going to have to be more descriptive and tell us the last few things you did to mess up X
[06:17] <draik> dem0nseed: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:19] <Sorrento|> hello?
[06:19] <michael__> ok i used aptitude install xubuntu-desktop and it had dependency problems and in the resolution it is gonna remove lots of packages
[06:19] <thunderbolt> Sorrento|: Have you tried an apt-get update?
[06:19] <michael__> and it says it is gonna break up my system
[06:20] <michael__> is there anyway around that
[06:20] <Sorrento|> thunderbolt: yes, still gives me the same error
[06:20] <thunderbolt> Hrrm...
[06:21] <michael__> helo anyone?
[06:24] <michael__> ok,can anyone tell me eher i can find the .deb files of xfce?? can i use them to install xfce??
[06:27] <mike> check synaptic
[06:29] <steve__> draik> the reason for the port number is to connect to his comp with gftp and transfer files
[06:30] <draik> PortForward.com is your friend
[06:32] <jetsaredim> is there a package for knetworkmanager 0.2
[06:34] <steve__> how i we know which port to use for file sharing
[06:48] <draik> Just a random question. Does anyone know where I can get a sound clip of when the Transformers when they go from robot form to their "alter ego"?
[06:50] <thunderbolt> The Interweb?
[06:51] <draik> thunderbolt: I am trying but cannot find the right keywords, I guess.
[06:51] <thunderbolt> transformers sound effect?
[06:51] <thunderbolt> You may want to try seibertron.com or bigbot...they might have something in the message boards
[06:52] <Q9er> how can i connect to my friends dell notebook
[06:55] <Karti> Hi all. apart from opening my PC is there any way on the command line that I can use to find out what type of memory I have, ie ddr 3200 etc? Many thanks
[07:00] <mike> Looking for a fix ,,alsa problem,no sound,onboard hda,,sb450 sound
[07:01] <mike> Any links would be awsm
[07:02] <slacker404> whats the kubuntu package for mpg4's etc ?
[07:05] <wolferine> slacker404, google 'ubuntu guide'
[07:05] <wolferine> it will help setup packages
[07:06] <slacker404> im ujs curious what the package for mpg4 stuff is but yea :P
[07:10] <malek> hello
[08:14] <underdog5004> man, this place just died!
[08:16] <stdin> we solved all the problems \o/ :)
[08:21] <ice9__> anybody know anything about the Gens emulator? Getting some cackly sounds
[08:22] <ice9__> well the thing is, when I minimize it, the sound is fine and crystal clear
[08:22] <ice9__> but when I bring it up again, its distorted
[08:27] <yuan> dying...............
[08:27] <yuan> nobody here........
[08:27] <Admiral_Chicago> i fixed all the kubuntu problems in one command
[08:28] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo rm -r /*
[08:28] <Admiral_Chicago> don't run that on your computer btw
[08:28] <Admiral_Chicago> that'll delete everything
[08:29] <underdog5004> not everything...just everything up to /usr/bin/rm
[08:29] <underdog5004> ha ha
[08:29] <underdog5004> but it'll kill your system, no doubt
[08:29] <Admiral_Chicago> you're right...
[08:29] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo rm -rf /
[08:29] <Admiral_Chicago> iirc
[08:30] <Admiral_Chicago> but you still shouldn't run that
[08:30] <Admiral_Chicago>  /join #ubuntu-chicago
[08:31] <stdin> underdog5004: actually, it will remove everything, as "rm" will be loaded in to the memory, then run
[08:32] <underdog5004> oh
[08:34] <stdin> that's how you _can_ remove "linux-image-$(uname -r)" while running it (tho it's probably not good to do that)
[08:36] <Jeff_Mitchell> anyone know how to fix the OpenOffice (V2.2) spellchecker in Kubuntu 7.04? i managed to fix this on Ubuntu Dapper by using the "install new dictionaries" wizard, but in Kubuntu 7.04 it crashes. maybe because its OO V2.2? ideas please?
[08:40] <curt> anyone know how to disable the scroll wheel click?
[08:43] <_4strO> curt: probably by modifiying the line : Option    "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"  in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[08:48] <Jeff_Mitchell> anyone know how to fix the OpenOffice (V2.2) spellchecker in Kubuntu 7.04? i managed to fix this on Ubuntu Dapper by using the "install new dictionaries" wizard, but in Kubuntu 7.04 it crashes. maybe because its OO V2.2? ideas please?
[08:50] <stdin> Jeff_Mitchell: check the bugtracker on launchpad and see if it's been reported, if not then report it.
[08:50] <stdin> Jeff_Mitchell: you can also ask on answers.launchpad.net
[08:52] <Jeff_Mitchell> ok cheers. Kubuntu bug reports still go on "https://launchpad.net/ubuntu" right? because "https://launchpad.net/kubuntu" doesn't exist.
[08:54] <stdin> Jeff_Mitchell: well it's https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu now
[09:01] <kraut> moin
[09:07] <curt> anyone know how to get kopete to connect all?
[09:10] <_4strO> curt: is it ok for your mouse button config ?
[09:10] <curt> still working on that
[09:10] <curt> how do i edit that file
[09:11] <_4strO> kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:11] <_4strO> (in a terminal)
[09:12] <_4strO> so you may just change the true in false
[09:13] <iwmne> hey~ distibution upgrade has hung at 99% on cleaning up.. showing "Searching for obsolete software"..
[09:14] <curt> k sweet, that worked
[09:15] <Jeff_Mitchell> curt: is your status set to "online" in kopete?
[09:15] <curt> ....
[09:16] <curt> sigh
[09:16] <curt> thanks
[09:16] <Ragol> hi guys
[09:19] <Jeff_Mitchell> even i didn't know that at first... i've only been using kubuntu for about a week. so don't feel too stupid :-)
[09:23] <Jeff_Mitchell> who else here is alive?
[09:24] <pag> o/
[09:26] <curt> i'm alive
[09:30] <Zasch> Hello
[09:30] <pag> hi Zasch
[09:31] <Zasch> I'm not sure if this is the proper place to come to, since I installed Ubuntu and then KDE, but...
[09:31] <Zasch> How do I make Firefox my default browser?
[09:31] <Jeff_Mitchell> edit>preferences? (from within firefox)
[09:32] <pag> Zasch, system settings -> default apps
[09:32] <Jeff_Mitchell> under the "general" tab
[09:32] <Jeff_Mitchell> ... or that
[09:32] <Zasch> In system settings, I type in "firefox" for my web browser, but links in say Pidgin still open up in Konqueror
[09:33] <curt> trying to get automatix2 downloaded, can anyone else open the link?
[09:33] <pag> !automatix | curt
[09:33] <ubotu> curt: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:34] <curt> hmm
[09:34] <curt> okay.
[09:34] <curt> how can i get codecs to watch video files then
[09:34] <Zasch> Although...Is Konqueror superior to Firefox?
[09:34] <llutz> Zasch:change it in pidgins config
[09:35] <pag> curt, what video? .avi .wmv or..?
[09:35] <curt> all of the above plus mpgs don't work
[09:35] <pag> Zasch, if you don't need FF extesions then you might prefer Konq
[09:35] <pag> !avi | curt
[09:35] <ubotu> curt: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:36] <Zasch> What are some problems with running KDE on top of an Ubuntu install?
[09:36] <pag> Zasch, the only 'problem' will be that the menus are bloated
[09:37] <Zasch> Everyone keeps telling me about how Amarok is so much superior to Rhythmbox, but I can't seem to get it to work. I try to open /media/IPOD, but then it says it can't play Mp3 files and promptly crashes
[09:37] <pag> Zasch, and if you use GDM instead of KDM then KDE might have some logout issues
[09:37] <pag> Zasch, enable multiverse
[09:37] <Zasch> I don't know what "GDM", "KDM", or "multiverse" mean. Sorry, I'm completely new at Ubuntu, and thus even more new at KDE
[09:38] <pag> Zasch, the thing you are experiencing is a pretty well known bug among developers, so don't worry, it'll be fixed sooner or later
[09:38] <pag> !multiverse | Zasch
[09:38] <ubotu> Zasch: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:39] <Zasch> I switched to KDE because I prefer the GUI options that it gives me. Is this a bad reason, and could Gnome replicate the same thing?
[09:41] <pag> Zasch, gnome really lacks of config options, so it probaly couldn't.
[09:42] <mumificirani> !mpeg
[09:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:42] <dalfos>  
[09:42] <pag> !ru | dalfos
[09:42] <ubotu> dalfos:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[09:43] <dalfos>     sendmail?
[09:43] <pag> dalfos, please, only English here
[09:44] <mumificirani> !hr
[09:44] <ubotu> za hrvatski dodjite na #ubuntu-hr, da ne zbunjujete engleze.
[09:44] <dalfos> can you help me with sendmail?
[09:48] <curt> pag, those pages you gave me really didnt have any instructions on how to get video working
[09:49] <pag> curt, enable all the repositories and install libxine-extracodecs and w32codecs
[09:49] <curt> wha...
[09:49] <pag> !reos | curt
[09:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:49] <pag> !repos
[09:49] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:52] <Ragol> any idea why my kubuntu says that the resolution is 1600x1200 even though it really is 1280x1024? and if I lower the setting from the 'Monitor&display' section of the system settings, then the resolution will be lower also, but of course not the same than the computer says...
[09:52] <Ragol> this is a brand new lenovo thinkcentre with some ati video card
[09:54] <Ragol> this isn't a nice situation, because my tft would really like to have 1600x1200 resolution :)
[09:54] <fotoflo> hey gftp keeps crashing on me. is there a better FTP gui for KDE?
[09:54] <stdin> fotoflo: konqueror
[09:54] <fotoflo> err...
[09:55] <hangthedj> kftpgrabber or kasablanca
[09:55] <curt> ... seriously, playing a video file shouldn't be this hard.
[09:55] <hangthedj> but i perfer konqueror as well.
[09:55] <Jeff_Mitchell> Ragol: have you tried doing stuff with xorg.conf? also, what is your experience level with linux?
[09:56] <Ragol> Jeff_Mitchell: I've been using linux for maybe 8-9 years, so have some experience
[09:57] <llutz> curt: if they all would use open standards it wouldn't be this hard. proprietary codecs need more effort :(
[09:57] <Ragol> Jeff_Mitchell: probably one of the problems may be, that for some weird reason, can use only vesa drivers
[09:57] <Ragol> if I choose ati drivers, computer tries to use them, but won't work, so reverts (right word?) back to vesa
[09:58] <Jeff_Mitchell> lol 8-9 years? ok... i won't even try to help. damn, there's more of you people than i though! :(
[09:59] <Ragol> Jeff_Mitchell: well... I'm not saying I know much ;)
[09:59] <Ragol> I used to know, now I probably now more about windows *sigh* because of my day job
[09:59] <cornelius_> c
[09:59] <Ragol> Jeff_Mitchell: so, if you have any ideas, they would be nice to know
[10:00] <Ragol> my xorg.conf is here: http://www.students.tut.fi/~rajala37/temp/xorg.conf
[10:01] <Jeff_Mitchell> if it can't be fixed via xorg.conf, then its probably a driver-related thingy...
[10:01] <llutz> Ragol: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors
[10:03] <Jeff_Mitchell> Ragol: is that your up-to-date xorg.conf file that you're using now?
[10:04] <Ragol> Jeff_Mitchell: at least that's the one I found at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:04] <Ragol> and I reinstalled this computer a couple of days ago
[10:05] <Ragol> brb
[10:05] <fotoflo> Konq doesnt read the MOTD or display all the ftp read  stuff...
[10:06] <jussi01> !ftpd | fotoflo
[10:06] <ubotu> fotoflo: FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[10:06] <Ragol> okay, now have also this irssi running inside a screen so can better tune this thing :)
[10:06] <jussi01> !ftp
[10:06] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[10:06] <fotoflo> jussi01, not looking for servers, looking or clients
[10:06] <fotoflo> ok thanks
[10:06] <jussi01> :)
[10:07] <fotoflo> !Kasablanca
[10:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kasablanca - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:07] <curt_> okay. so as far as playing videos, i still don't know whats wrong
[10:07] <Jeff_Mitchell> Ragol: have you read about editing xorg.conf? because that's a more effective (and more dangerous) way of changing your resolution
[10:07] <curt_> i trieddoing the repos thing and my station crashesd
[10:09] <Ragol> Jeff_Mitchell: I tried to look my current xorg.conf that I posted on the net, but couldn't find any "problems" with it
[10:10] <Jeff_Mitchell> find where it has the text which is enclosed in the braces: {Section "Monitor"}
[10:10] <llutz> Ragol: you'll have to check which graphics chipset you have and which of the ati-drivers support it (ati/fglrx)
[10:12] <Ragol> llutz: I've tried all drivers the system settings have, ati (vesa), ati (fglrx), ati (fbdev)
[10:12] <fotoflo> whats the diff between passive mode and active mode in FTP?
[10:13] <Ragol> Jeff_Mitchell: yep, any problems there, or something?
[10:15] <Jeff_Mitchell> well, i managed to fix my resolution and monitor refreshrate by editing xorg.conf but i don't know if it will work for you, because you may not have the right drivers.
[10:16] <Jeff_Mitchell> i found a "modeline generator" some place on the net, which generated a line of code which then goes into xorg.conf. and then it fixed my settings... editing xorg.conf isn't always healthy, and i'm 16. so i recommend speaking to someone else about it.
[10:17] <Ragol> no problem :)
[10:18] <Jeff_Mitchell> but i could send you some useful links
[10:18] <Jeff_Mitchell> read this, but be careful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto?highlight=%28resolution%29
[10:18] <silicon_> ?
[10:18] <llutz> if the driver is always being resetted to "vesa" your system hasn't any working ati-driver supporting your video-card
[10:18] <BaLi^^> hi to all
[10:19] <Jeff_Mitchell> llutz: yeah, but he hasn't tried editing xorg.conf yet. shouldn't he try and do that before he tries fiddling with drivers?
[10:19] <Jeff_Mitchell> hi to BaLi^^
[10:19] <Ragol> I think that my problem may be somehow related to the fact that the motherboard has an integrated video chip and this "external" ati card
[10:19] <llutz> Jeff_Mitchell: he has, as he wrote before
[10:19] <Ragol> llutz: yep, I also thought that
[10:19] <BaLi^^> somebody know how migrate from red hat to ubuntu?
[10:20] <Ragol> now I'm playing with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:20] <over30feet> Any one here
[10:20] <llutz> Ragol: you cannot disable the internal card in Bios-settings?
[10:21] <over30feet> what type of card is it?
[10:21] <Ragol> llutz: I thought that because the ati card is working at least somehow I thought that it would not be a problem, but have to check
[10:21] <Ragol> I'll reboot this now and check the bios
[10:22] <BaLi^^> somebody know how migrate the user from red hat to ubuntu?
[10:28] <Shan_> can someone help? BIOS shows my new drive as Secondary SLAVE but sudo fdisk -l wont show it at all
[10:30] <Shan_> anyone?
[10:30] <Prophez1> Do anyone know which command i can use to do a screendump?
[10:30] <stdin> Prophez1: ksnapshot ?
[10:31] <Shan_> Prophez1, dont know a command but theres a util in Accessories that lets you take a snapshot
[10:31] <Prophez1> yes
[10:31] <Prophez1> just wonder if there is faster command then snapshop
[10:31] <Shan_> Prt Scr is the hotkey for it
[10:32] <stdin> Prophez1: the printscreen button not working?
[10:32] <Prophez1> stdin: i tried, but all i get its some files that i couldn open
[10:33] <stdin> Prophez1: huh? what do you mean? I press PrtScr and ksnapshot comes up
[10:34] <Prophez1> oki, so you have to have snapshop installed
[10:34] <Prophez1> i havent ;)
[10:34] <Prophez1> well i think i have to have it installed then :)
[10:34] <stdin> Prophez1: umm, ksnapshot is installed by default
[10:35] <Prophez1> yes i took it away i thought i coud use the prt scr without it
[10:35] <Prophez1> hehe
[10:35] <Prophez1> sometimes the fastest way is the complicated way :P
[10:36] <Ragol> okay, back
[10:36] <Ragol> now it's working
[10:36] <Ragol> but, not the ati card
[10:36] <stdin> Prophez1: the "other" way is to use prtscr, then paste that in to a graphics app, then save it
[10:36] <Ragol> I took the ati away and use the integrated card with vesa drivers...
[10:37] <Ragol> but, I'm not playing with this computer or anything, so don't need fancy 3D acc stuff or anything
[10:37] <Prophez1> stdin yes like windows shi* ... *ops... i mean our neightbour windows* :D
[10:38] <Ragol> thanks guys for the thoughts
[10:40] <Ragol> and I created the new xorg.conf with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:42] <Prophezy> damn, the whole system crashes for me :(
[11:03] <waylandbill> Prophezy: the livecd crashes?
[11:04] <Prophezy> waylandbill : no the system, it restarted the computer by itselfs and the CPU was warm like the sun :(
[11:06] <waylandbill> Prophezy: cpu cooler fan still working?
[11:07] <Prophezy> waylandbill yes it still work
[11:08] <Prophezy> waylandbill: the CPU starts to be warm when i open adept-manager or terminal ?????
[11:08] <Prophezy> but when i close the programs .. the cpu will be normal again
[11:09] <waylandbill> Prophezy: I assume this isn't an older computer. Did you just install the system recently?
[11:10] <Prophezy> waylandbill yes this is a new 3 month old laptop from fujitsu siemens
[11:10] <Prophezy> and i use Kubuntu
[11:11] <waylandbill> Prophezy: just recently installed, or have you been running it for a while?
[11:11] <Prophezy> 7 days now
[11:11] <Prophezy> The problem started when the adept-manager crashed
[11:12] <Prophezy> well it still not workin :(
[11:12] <Prophezy> and i haved tried all the commands i got
[11:12] <lol> kann mir einer mit wien helfen???
[11:12] <lol> wine
[11:12] <Prophezy> lol : sorry i cant speak german ;)
[11:13] <waylandbill> Prophezy: did you ever check the media you used to install for correct md5 sum?
[11:14] <Prophezy> waylandbill. you mean the install cd?
[11:16] <waylandbill> correct.
[11:17] <Prophezy> waylandbill: yes everything was workin perfect until i tried to install the Pidgin.deb from the pidgin site
[11:25] <mumificirani> Anybody here? I have a little problem
[11:26] <pag> mumificirani, just ask your question; it increases the odds someone will answer
[11:26] <mumificirani> lol
[11:27] <mumificirani> well when I turn off the computer, and turn it on
[11:27] <mumificirani> it loads the desktop just like it was before it was turend off
[11:27] <mumificirani> is there any way to boot up KDE with no open programs?
[11:28] <pag> mumificirani, systemsettings -> andvanced -> sessions -> Start with empty session
[11:29] <mumificirani> pag thnaks a bunch :)
[11:29] <pag> np :)
[11:31] <_mEo> Hi, I am trying to test kde4, but when I launch it, it gets stuck on 'initialising system components(or services can't remember)
[11:31] <_mEo> Is there something basic i may have done wrong
[11:32] <HiChewLove> #trot
[11:35] <pag> _mEo, it's really hard to tell what might be the problem, since KDE4 is alpha software and it isn't even supposed to work (easily)
[11:49] <waveler> how do i install creative live souncard?
[11:51] <eMaX> re
[11:52] <eMaX> anyone here uses a blackberry as bluetooth dial up networking device?
[11:55] <prakteon> 
[11:56] <prakteon>      
[12:03] <runlevelten> !greek
[12:03] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[12:03] <runlevelten> :)
[12:13] <momon> aight
[12:27] <lol_> habe auf java.com
[12:27] <lol_> ne anleitung ^^
[12:27] <lol_> aber
[12:27] <lol_> wie is mein root pw?
[12:27] <lol_> da steht stndig es ist falsch
[12:27] <lol_> stimmt aber net
[12:31] <lol_> hrt ma damit auf !!!
[12:32] <lol_> afk
[12:35] <sveweck> Hi. I have 2 Kubuntu PCs connected in a LAN. What's the best way to make all data from them available on both (ideally should work even when one of them is running Windows XP)?
[12:38] <sveweck> Should I just install a SMB server, then enable "simple filesharing" in systemsettings?
[12:42] <lol_> gehen eig auch spiele?
[12:42] <lol_> auf wine
[12:43] <lol_> sagt ma
[01:00] <sveweck> !de
[01:00] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:00] <sveweck> lol_: ^
[01:05] <Lustblader> hello ppl
[01:10] <Lustblader> how come no1 talking here?
[01:12] <mumificirani> they talk if they need help
[01:16] <Lustblader> that's nice
[01:20] <sveweck> Guys, I installed servers for NFS and SMB and enabled filesharing for /home/me/ for both in systemsettings. The other PC, however, doesn't see the shares in smb:/ and nfs:/. What am I doing wrong?
[01:20] <sveweck> (worked fine in Windows)
[01:25] <Lustblader> no idea man sveweck
[01:25] <Lustblader> try the ubuntu channel
[01:27] <[NL] Jazz> Hello guys:)
[01:27] <sveweck> Lustblader: ok
[01:27] <sveweck> hi [NL] Jazz
[01:27] <Lustblader> hi [NL] Jazz
[01:27] <[NL] Jazz> i would like to upgrade my bios - the linux way
[01:28] <[NL] Jazz> does someone have any experience with this?
[01:28] <[NL] Jazz> !bios
[01:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bios - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:30] <[NL] Jazz> I've found something about a 'nvram' device
[01:30] <ismael_> Materials:
[01:30] <[NL] Jazz> but that doesn't work for me (or i did it wrong)
[01:30] <[NL] Jazz> and i tried flashrom (linuxbios utility)
[01:30] <[NL] Jazz> wich alse didn't work
[01:31] <[NL] Jazz> which also*
[01:31] <ismael_> How  can I sincronyze my phone sony ericson with kontact using multisync?
[01:35] <Lustblader> /exit
[01:39] <Prophezy> !adpt
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adpt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:39] <Prophezy> hmm can anyone the command for adept-manager?
[01:39] <pag> Prophezy, kdesu adept_manager
[01:40] <Prophezy> thanks pag
[01:58] <Lustblader> hey
[01:58] <Lustblader> any1 know how to get my 5 button mouse running in kubuntu?
[02:01] <pag> !mouse | Lustblader
[02:01] <ubotu> Lustblader: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[02:02] <Lustblader> thx ubotu
[02:09] <hunkil> hi, need help with samba.. can anyone help?
[02:11] <Lustblader> sorry man
[02:11] <nkalinic> !samba | hunkil
[02:11] <ubotu> hunkil: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:12] <nkalinic> farther than that I don't know =)
[02:12] <nkalinic> !inkspace
[02:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inkspace - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:12] <nkalinic> !inkscape
[02:12] <ubotu> Inkscape is a powerful vector graphics drawing application - see http://www.inkscape.org/ for more
[02:14] <hunkil> ubotu: well, my problem is that i can get rid of the login promt when trying acces my shares from windows machine.. i set security to "share" a still doesnt work
[02:16] <Azzco> hunkil:  ubotu is a bot...
[02:17] <hunkil> eh
[02:17] <eespinosa> heloss
[02:18] <yamal> hunkil: so you just want to allow access to a share without password?
[02:19] <hunkil> yamal: exactly.. but that pesky login prompt keeps appearing and i dont do why
[02:19] <yamal> hunkil: I'll post an example
[02:20] <hunkil> yamal: ok
[02:20] <yamal> taken from my config: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31538/
[02:21] <yamal> obviously, you will have to modify to suite your network setup and preferences. And remove the comment "#" at the start of the lines
[02:23] <hunkil> yamal: thank you very much:) gimme a sec, im gonna try
[02:23] <boris_> how can I set up skyipe for kubuntu
[02:23] <laur> boris_ you just install it
[02:24] <Azzco> boris google for medibuntu
[02:25] <boris_> i am a genius
[02:25] <boris_> :)
[02:29] <hunkil> yamal: prompt again:( i tried it, then reloaded smb.conf by 'sudo /etc/init.d/samba reload'
[02:29] <yamal> hunkil: let me see if there's more to it then
[02:30] <boris_> and what do i do now, i got skype-1.4.074.deb
[02:30] <boris_> i can not open it
[02:31] <Lynoure> sudo dpkg --install skype-1.4.074.deb   if you trust the package and you want to install it
[02:36] <boris_> it says thet  serious warning: files list file for package `sun-java6-bin' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed
[02:37] <boris_> no skype
[02:37] <boris_> :(
[02:39] <yamal> hunkil: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31540/
[02:39] <yamal> hunkil: also realize that windows might be to blame; try with a linux client as well if you can (konqueror or so)
[02:41] <hunkil> yamal: thanks for help again
[02:45] <Lynoure> boris_: yes, you have to install the requirements manually when you install packages manually. Following the skype howto should get you there
[02:46] <boris_> thx
[02:46] <Lynoure> boris_: I'd walk you through it, but busy day at work.
[02:46] <boris_> work,work
[02:47] <boris_> or
[02:47] <boris_> delo,delo
[02:56] <ksivaji> how to connect database and web page
[03:15] <mike> My laptop locks up with a blank screen on shut down?
[03:16] <Daisuke_Ido> was that a question or a statement?
[03:16] <mike> q
[03:17] <mike> Some advice would be awsm
[03:20] <Daisuke_Ido> well, some more information would be awesome too
[03:20] <Daisuke_Ido> that's not much to go on
[03:23] <bigfoot_> Salutation
[03:24] <bigfoot_> Comment savoir quel carte graphique j'ai ?
[03:24] <ADiCT3D> Hey bluetooth doesnt start when my comp boots and my device has to repair every boot how do i fix this?
[03:27] <mike> kcontrol was`missing? this a bug?
[03:28] <ADiCT3D> Hey bluetooth doesnt start when my comp boots and my device has to repair every boot how do i fix this?
[03:28] <ADiCT3D> mike: go into run kcontrol its there
[03:29] <benjamin_> hola
[03:30] <mike> ADiCT3D: ok yes ,,had to run command?
[03:30] <mike> What about restricted drivers?
[03:31] <ADiCT3D> mike: its still there its just not in menu's if u need kcontrol go to run command>kcontrol
[03:31] <mike> I cannot find it
[03:31] <mike> ADiCT3D: many thanks,kcontrol sorted
[03:33] <Silent_G> hello
[03:33] <Silent_G> i installed Kdevelop
[03:33] <Silent_G> but the build menu is empty
[03:33] <Silent_G> any help?
[03:33] <ADiCT3D> Silent_G: seems like no helpers are on today lol
[03:33] <Silent_G> :O
[03:33] <Silent_G> nice
[03:33] <Silent_G> lol
[03:34] <Lynoure> Silent_G: you have code to be built?
[03:34] <ADiCT3D> i want an asus G1 but idk if itll run kubuntu :(
[03:34] <Silent_G> Yeah
[03:34] <Silent_G> a piece of small code
[03:34] <Silent_G> but still
[03:34] <Silent_G> the build menu was empty
[03:34] <Silent_G> :S
[03:35] <ubuntu_> hello, i want to install grub to use my old kubuntu again, but the output is " The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly" does anybody know a solution?
[03:36] <ADiCT3D> !grub
[03:36] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:36] <ADiCT3D> !grub ubuntu_
[03:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grub ubuntu_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:36] <ADiCT3D> !bot
[03:36] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:36] <Lynoure> Silent_G: hmm, no idea then.
[03:37] <ADiCT3D> Hey bluetooth doesnt start when my comp boots and my device has to repair every boot how do i fix this?
[03:38] <BaLi^^> hi all
[03:38] <BaLi^^> somebody know how trasfer the .passwd from rd 7.3 to ubuntu?
[03:40] <genii> BaLi^^: Since they both use the same hashing, just use vipw to open the passwd file. Copy the hashed password part. Then use vipw on ubuntu box and paste it in
[03:40] <genii> BaLi^^: You mean RedHat 7.3, yes?
[03:41] <ubuntu_> ADiCT3D: ok thx, but the problem is not described in that urls :/
[03:42] <BaLi^^> genii: yes
[03:42] <Ace2016> Hi all
[03:42] <BaLi^^> genii: is it work?
[03:42] <Ace2016> how do i use the asrock raid on my motherboard with kubuntu?
[03:43] <BaLi^^> genii: anyway i immediatly try
[03:43] <genii> BaLi^^: So long as the username is identical, the password will work
[03:43] <BaLi^^> genii: ok thank you vr much
[03:43] <genii> BaLi^^: np
[03:43] <BaLi^^> genii: i'm trying... =)
[03:44] <ADiCT3D> Hey bluetooth doesnt start when my comp boots and my device has to repair every boot how do i fix this?
[03:45] <BaLi^^> genii_
[03:45] <genii> BaLi^^: Yeah I'm still here :)
[03:45] <BaLi^^> genii: sorry my i have type #vipw /etc/.passwd
[03:46] <BaLi^^> genii: but i can see the hash of pwd
[03:46] <genii> BaLi^^: OK, must be using shadow password file then. 1 moment
[03:47] <BaLi^^> d7hv5630
[03:47] <BaLi^^> sorry
[03:47] <BaLi^^> ok
[03:47] <Lolren> hi
[03:47] <Silent_G> listen
[03:48] <Silent_G> is there a command
[03:48] <Silent_G> in KDE
[03:48] <Silent_G> when im in a directory
[03:48] <Silent_G> to have Admin Permisions?
[03:48] <BaLi^^> i?
[03:48] <Silent_G> ?
[03:49] <icefox> Can the latest astyle be pulled in from debian?  The one in kubuntu is older and doesn't support all of the formatting options on the kde dev wiki page
[03:50] <Ace2016> Silent_G: what are you trying to do?
[03:50] <Silent_G> man
[03:50] <Silent_G> it just anoys me
[03:50] <Silent_G> when i want to delete something
[03:50] <Silent_G> i must use console
[03:50] <Ace2016> Silent_G: run kdesu konqueror, go to the folder and do whatever you want
[03:50] <Silent_G> sudo rm something
[03:50] <attunix> Hi. I'm trying to install pine, but  i keep getting an error message. please help.
[03:50] <Ace2016> Silent_G: don't haveto use konsole
[03:51] <Ace2016> Silent_G: you can use kdesu konqueror to get a file manager with root access
[03:51] <Silent_G> yes but is there an option in the konqueror window
[03:51] <Silent_G> so i dont have to "kdesu konqueror" everytime
[03:51] <Silent_G> :S
[03:51] <Ace2016> yea unless you go to the folder, press F8 and run sudo rm whatever
[03:52] <Silent_G> ic
[03:52] <genii> BaLi^^: On RH box, with admin privelege open  /etc/passwd    for the encrypted password. Then paste it in to the ubuntu file /etc/shadow
[03:52] <Silent_G> also
[03:52] <Silent_G> is  there some compiler
[03:52] <Silent_G> like "make"
[03:52] <Silent_G> but with graphical interface
[03:52] <Silent_G> or something
[03:52] <Silent_G> ?
[03:52] <Silent_G> :p
[03:52] <genii> BaLi^^: It's everything between the : after username and the next :
[03:53] <icefox> if I install gdm on kubuntu it will complain every time it start that it is missing the human xml file
[03:54] <icefox> if I try to install vmware-player it fails
[03:54] <icefox> that is about what I found
[03:56] <BaLi^^> genii: i have in this file (for example):           username:x:547:547::/home/username:/sbin/nologin
[03:57] <genii> BaLi^^: Yes, where the :x: part is is normally where you find the hashed part of the password
[03:57] <BaLi^^> genii: ah ok
[03:57] <BaLi^^> genii: i'm trying to copy
[03:58] <genii> BaLi^^: When shadow is used, they are not shown in the vipw command, you need to manually open the actual file
[04:03] <BaLi^^> genii: i seems work!!!
[04:04] <genii> BaLi^^:  :) I had to transfer a list of passwords before this way, it is a nice shortcut to know
[04:05] <Sp1k3> eu to precisando de ajuda pra estala vmware tools no ubuntu 6.06
[04:05] <genii> BaLi^^: Plus you do not need to know what the password is
[04:05] <BluesKaj> howdy all :)
[04:05] <BaLi^^> genii: yep! i must change a old mail server and for the privacy i haven't the user password
[04:06] <BaLi^^> genii: in this way it's very easy!
[04:06] <Sp1k3> i need help for install vmware tools for my linux virtual ubuntu 6.06
[04:06] <BaLi^^> genii: thank you very much
[04:07] <genii> BaLi^^: You are very welcome
[04:07] <Sp1k3> THX
[04:07] <Sp1k3> you help me
[04:07] <Sp1k3> ?
[04:07] <Sp1k3> please
[04:08] <wolferine> Sp1k3, what seems to be the problem
[04:08] <Sp1k3> man 1 i no speak english
[04:08] <wolferine> !es Sp1k3
[04:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es sp1k3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:08] <Sp1k3> plz spear spanish or portugues
[04:08] <wolferine> !es | Sp1k3
[04:08] <ubotu> Sp1k3: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:08] <Sp1k3> kk
[04:08] <Sp1k3> thx
[04:08] <Sp1k3> i'm from brasil
[04:08] <Sp1k3> need help
[04:09] <Sp1k3> wolferine please
[04:09] <wolferine> Sp1k3, ask in #ubuntu-es or  #kubuntu-es
[04:09] <genii> !br
[04:09] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[04:09] <Sp1k3> i necessit install for vmware tools for ubuntu
[04:09] <Sp1k3> vlw
[04:09] <wolferine> !repeat | Sp1k3
[04:09] <ubotu> Sp1k3: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:09] <Sp1k3> tranks man
[04:09] <ksivaji> !mysql
[04:09] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[04:11] <NickPresta> who needs help with a LAMP setup?
[04:12] <Sp1k3> wolferine
[04:12] <Sp1k3> i need help for
[04:12] <wolferine> !repeat | Sp1k3
[04:12] <ubotu> Sp1k3: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:12] <Sp1k3> install is my linux virtual(ubuntu) 6.06
[04:12] <Sp1k3> install vmware tools
[04:13] <BaLi^^> ?_?
[04:13] <genii> wolferine: I'm pretty sure he's trying to clarify his problem in english, since not his first language
[04:13] <BluesKaj> NickPresta, what does one actaully do with apache/mysql ...what purpose does it serve ?
[04:13] <wolferine> genii, and I am sure that he was directed to a channel in his language
[04:14] <genii> wolferine: Tue :)
[04:14] <genii> true , even
[04:14] <wolferine> genii, as well, I am not even able to help him
[04:14] <wolferine> no matter how hard he tired to 'convert it to english'
[04:15] <wolferine> and I am getting the feeling that ppl in the other channel probably are not answering him immediately
[04:15] <BluesKaj> and totally ignoring the replies abot the portugese and spanish support chats
[04:15] <|WAL|> I need help doing and upgrade to 7.04 from 6.10
[04:15] <wolferine> so as for him repeating, its not necessary really
[04:15] <BluesKaj> !upgrade
[04:15] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[04:15] <genii> BluesKaj: If you have for instance a web-based email system like Horde you use apache and PHP to run the webbased part then mysql or postgre as storage backend for session management, user settings etc
[04:17] <BluesKaj> ok thx genii :)
[04:18] <genii> BluesKaj:  :)
[04:19] <ksivaji> how to start mysql server
[04:20] <boris_> does enone know way my makefile does not work
[04:20] <NickPresta> ksivaji, sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[04:21] <boris_> boris@laik:~/Desktop/stage-2.0.0$ make
[04:21] <boris_> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[04:21] <ksivaji> sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ sudo mysql -u root
[04:21] <ksivaji> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[04:21] <ksivaji> NickPresta :
[04:22] <|WAL|> BluesKaj: that's for Ubuntu, I'm using Kubuntu
[04:22] <NickPresta> ksivaji, sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start. if you want to get into the mysql console, sudo mysql -u root -pPASSWORD
[04:22] <|WAL|> BluesKaj: my bad, I see it lower down
[04:23] <|WAL|> BluesKaj: these are the same instructions I tried, I don't have the reps. they mention
[04:23] <genii> ksivaji: mysql server daemon needs to be run a special way. It is specifically warned not to run it as root for instance in their docs. Best to use the init.d script provided
[04:24] <ksivaji> sorry i dont know much about mysql
[04:24] <ksivaji> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[04:25] <ksivaji> genii NickPresta why i am not getting mysql console ?
[04:26] <BluesKaj> |WAL|, change the instances of  "edgy" to " feisty " in your sources.list , save it and then run the upgrade.
[04:26] <genii> ksivaji: You should su to user mysql first
[04:27] <ksivaji> ok
[04:27] <NickPresta> ksivaji, I''m sorry I can't help anymore. I gotta go have a shower and start my day. I think genii can help you though. =)
[04:27] <prophezy> i have 2 partition on my computer, one for OS and the other for backup, i named the first partition for System and the second backup, so my question is, how can i do so everything i donwload from firexforx goes to my backup and not my system HOME?
[04:28] <ksivaji> NickPresta ok thank you
[04:28] <prophezy> anyone that can guide me?
[04:29] <genii> ksivaji: I am back and forth between here and doing work so excuse excessive lag sometimes
[04:30] <ksivaji> genii no problem
[04:32] <BluesKaj> prophezy, open FF, in preferences , save files to, browse , choose the back up folder
[04:35] <genii> ksivaji: Anyhow, since by default mysql user has no login, if you su to that user and then try to run a command it boots you (because no usable default shell) so:   su mysql - -c "mysql <othercommands here>"
[04:36] <ksivaji> genii ya can login to mysql console but i cant create tables
[04:37] <sudeep> how to install xyz.bin package
[04:37] <boris_> can anyone help my
[04:37] <prophezy> BluesKaj how do i know that is the backup partition?
[04:37] <boris_> i have problem with make file
[04:37] <MaporcoDUe> 24/07/2007 10:53:37	ll	kernel	[    0.000000]  ACPI: BIOS bug: multiple APIC/MADT found, using 0 lol
[04:37] <boris_> i am instaling stage
[04:37] <Lynoure> sudeep: by following the instructions in the xyz readme file
[04:38] <genii> ksivaji: You may need to run some mysqladmin commands first and perhaps create a default database
[04:38] <sudeep> Lynoure. .its amsn???.bin file
[04:38] <ksivaji> "ERROR 1046 (3D000): No database selected " this is what i get when i create a table
[04:38] <Lynoure> sudeep: often, but not nearly always, just set mode to be executable and go.
[04:38] <Lynoure> sudeep: I don't do IM at all, sorry
[04:39] <ksivaji> genii what mysqladmin commands  ?
[04:39] <BluesKaj> prophezy, if you named it , then it should show when you click on browse
[04:39] <Lynoure> !amns
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <genii> ksivaji: Something like:sudo mysqladmin -u <username for database here> -p create <databasename here>
[04:40] <prophezy> BluesKaj i can only see folders, but i want to choose which partition i want to store my downloads
[04:40] <genii> ksivaji: Then when you run the mysql command, point it to that database
[04:40] <prophezy> i have 2 , 30 Gigs
[04:41] <ksivaji> ok
[04:41] <genii> ksivaji: Or, open it afterwards from inside the mysql interface
[04:42] <genii> ksivaji: AFK, work. Maybe 2-3 minutes
[04:43] <c2c2rock> hello the default konsole doesn't want to allow scrolling is there a better console terminal etc that i could be using apt-get install yakuake seems to be ok just want a second opinion
[04:43] <c2c2rock> lol
[04:44] <BaLi^^> bye
[04:44] <BluesKaj> prophezy the backup partiton should show up under "filesysytem"
[04:47] <c2c2rock> aptitude search ~Dprovides:x-terminal-emulator
[04:47] <c2c2rock> found me own answer :P
[04:48] <karre> kann man die fewststelltaste deaktivieren?
[04:50] <NickPresta> !de | karre
[04:50] <ubotu> karre: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:50] <karre> yo, wollte eicch in den deutschen
[04:50] <boris_> #ubuntu-hr
[04:51] <NickPresta> oh. thanks. Sorry for that. I wasn't sure which language you were speaking.
[04:51] <genii> ksivaji: Back. Getting anywhere?
[04:52] <ksivaji> no
[04:53] <samsung> how does one change one's name on irc?
[04:53] <genii> ksivaji: I'll see if i can find you some comprehensive tutorial for mysql
[04:53] <samsung> hmmmm, brain has been destroyed by long term exposure to ethanol.
[04:53] <ksivaji> genii ok
[04:54] <pag> samsung, RealName or nickname?
[04:54] <pag> samsung, latter would be: /nick <nickname>
[04:55] <BluesKaj> samsung, /nick newnick in the server textbox
[04:58] <ran> heeft iemand enig idee hoe ik java aan de praat krijg onder Kubuntu ??
[04:58] <pag> !nl | ran
[04:58] <ubotu> ran: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[04:58] <ran> daar krijg ik geen andwoord van niemand
[04:58] <pag> ran, please, /join #ubuntu-nl
[04:59] <genii> ksivaji: OK, skip down to the MySQL part of this page, it is pretty comprehensive http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu704_p4
[04:59] <ksivaji> genii what is this ?
[05:00] <genii> ksivaji: It is a middle section of a tutorial on setting up the Feisty Server install. page 4 of it begins dealing with the MySQL part of the install
[05:00] <ksivaji> ya ya
[05:01] <genii> ksivaji: Since in the tutrial they are running commands as root, put sudo in front of the commands given there
[05:01] <genii> *tutorial*
[05:01] <genii> bleh, typos
[05:01] <ksivaji> ya
[05:02] <genii> ksivaji: Trying now to find something else for you specific to mysql command-line stuff
[05:03] <fotoflo__> any of you guys ever have an issue where you can connect to an FTP site and login, but the directory listing never comes up?
[05:03] <Minataku> lo, genii
[05:03] <ksivaji> genii ok thank you very much
[05:09] <Lustblader> hello every1
[05:09] <fotoflo__> what does passive mode mean for FTP?
[05:09] <genii> ksivaji: Here is a handy short list of mysql commands  http://www.pantz.org/database/mysql/mysqlcommands.shtml
[05:09] <genii> Minataku: Heya :)
[05:10] <ksivaji> genii wow super thanks thank s
[05:10] <Yorokobi> fotoflo__, Passive mode for data transfers allows use of ftp in environments where a firewall prevents connections from the outside world back to the client machine. Requires that the ftp server support the PASV command.
[05:10] <rjb> fotoflo__: passive means the server won't need to connect back to you to send you a file
[05:10] <genii> fotoflo__:  http://kb.doteasy.com/idx.php/0/349/article/What-is-Passive-mode.html
[05:10] <genii> for a more complete description :)
[05:11] <genii> ksivaji: It should get you started anyhow
[05:11] <fotoflo__> ok thanks
[05:12] <c2c2rock> i know there is a wiki  just wanted to ask if this is a Good place togo http://diveintomark.org/archives/2007/03/02/ubuntu-howto-from-z-to-a
[05:12] <ebovine> When I'm using my EV-DO card (cellular modem) for some reason Kontact won't download email.
[05:12] <fotoflo__> i keep running into this problem where i am connecting to an FTP server and it is stalling on on "ls"
[05:12] <fotoflo__> i assume its a problem with the server...
[05:13] <c2c2rock> proly a winblows server :p
[05:13] <c2c2rock> lol
[05:13] <dct> hey whats up I would like to know how to change the power managment setting in Kubuntu
[05:14] <fotoflo__> c2c2rock, how'd you know ?
[05:14] <fotoflo__> heheh
[05:14] <genii> fotoflo__: Might be the username connecting does not have read rights to those files
[05:14] <genii> fotoflo__: Or timing out due to extensive listings of files there
[05:14] <fotoflo__> i think its probably just a shitty server
[05:15] <genii> fotoflo__: Try dir instead of ls LOL    windoze-isms
[05:15] <c2c2rock> lol
[05:15] <c2c2rock> i was just gunna say that genii
[05:16] <prophezy> !adept
[05:16] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[05:17] <c2c2rock> dir /p /w
[05:20] <c2c2rock> hello is my kubuntu-box live? c2c2c.ca
[05:21] <boris_> i need help
[05:21] <boris_> it says thet sun-java6-bin is broken
[05:21] <boris_> what do i do
[05:22] <Lustblader> boris_: download it again
[05:22] <c2c2rock> remove and reinstall
[05:23] <boris_> ok
[05:24] <boris_> thx
[05:24] <miles> question - im trying to tar a .war file, the command i typed was "tar -c <war file>"
[05:24] <miles> it f'd up though
[05:24] <genii> miles the first name is the name you want the archive called the second name(s) is what you want in there
[05:24] <miles> oic
[05:24] <boris_> anyone knows de make file?
[05:25] <boris_> the make file
[05:25] <boris_> ??
[05:25] <BluesKaj> boris , download and install build-essential
[05:25] <genii> miles eg: tar -c myarchive.tar file1 file2 file3
[05:26] <BluesKaj> boris, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:26] <genii> boris_: From scratch on your own project or for some source code that did not come with a Makefile?
[05:26] <miles> hmm..it keeps saying invalid option
[05:26] <boris_> is thet have something to do with my make file
[05:26] <miles> im guessing its cause im trying to tar a war file
[05:27] <boris_> ok
[05:27] <genii> miles Nah it should not matter the extension. Perhaps permissions in the dir you are running it in or so
[05:27] <genii> miles What is the error msg?
[05:28] <Yorokobi> miles, why are you trying to tar a war file? it is already compressed
[05:28] <boris_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:28] <Yorokobi> (not that tar compresses)
[05:28] <boris_> thet what says for
[05:28] <boris_> sudo apt-get install build-essentia
[05:28] <genii> Yorokobi: Even so it should still tar it, just not a lot of filesize diff after
[05:29] <boris_> and
[05:29] <boris_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:29] <Yorokobi> !fix adept | boris_
[05:29] <ubotu> boris_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:29] <miles> sorry
[05:29] <miles> im trying to copy the war file to my jboss deploy folder
[05:29] <BluesKaj> oops
[05:29] <miles> but it got omitted, so i was thinking i need to tar it so it moves as 1 file
[05:29] <miles> and then un-tar
[05:29] <boris_> ok
[05:29] <boris_> and
[05:29] <miles> plus, ive never tarred before, only untarred
[05:30] <boris_> thet what you seed to me
[05:30] <genii> boris_: If the update manager is running, let it complete before trying to install other things. If no update manager is running you may need to use the method told by ubotu
[05:30] <boris_> bifor
[05:30] <Yorokobi> miles, nah, you should be able to move/copy it "as-is". I do that stuff with .war, .ear, and .jar files about every day
[05:30] <BluesKaj> sorry boris ...just ignore me ...my mistake
[05:30] <boris_> ok
[05:31] <miles> hm...it worked that for some reason
[05:32] <boris_> it works
[05:32] <boris_> sudo apt-get install build-essentia
[05:32] <boris_> installing
[05:33] <boris_> what do I get by this
[05:33] <genii> boris_: You may need a lowercase L at the end there...
[05:33] <boris_> ???
[05:33] <BluesKaj> it should be, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:33] <Yorokobi> miles, for future reference: tar -cf - <file(s)> | gzip > newfile
[05:33] <boris_> what is the diference
[05:33] <genii> boris_: The build-essential package provides a compiler and some other utilities for making programs from the source code.
[05:33] <Yorokobi> miles, for a .tar.gz
[05:34] <BluesKaj> the 'l' at the end of essential
[05:34] <boris_> so, for make file
[05:34] <genii> boris_: Yes, you get the "automake" utility and other things
[05:34] <Semilios> hi
[05:34] <Semilios> When creating a backup of /home  -   should I  create a  *.tar  or a  *.tar.gz   or  a  *bz2  made out of a *.tar  or a   *.bz2  made out of a *.tar.gz  ?
[05:34] <boris_> thx
[05:35] <boris_> all day i make
[05:35] <boris_> but nothing hapens
[05:35] <boris_> :(
[05:35] <Yorokobi> Semilios, IIRC, bzip is faster but gzip is better at compression
[05:35] <BluesKaj> genii, does he need build-essential for the 'make' file installation process or am i barking up the wrong tree?
[05:35] <llutz> Semilios: .tar, don't compress it if no need
[05:35] <Semilios> Yorokobi, does   bz2  out  of  *.tar.gz  make sense?
[05:36] <boris_> i think it works
[05:36] <llutz> Semilios: bz2 from .gz= no sense
[05:36] <genii> BluesKaj: the build-essential is for that, yes. to do "make install"  or so, you need all the stuff inside the build-essential package
[05:36] <Yorokobi> Semilios, no, .gz is a gzip compressed file. bzipping it would be redundant
[05:36] <Semilios> so  bz2  out of  *.tar ?
[05:36] <Semilios> right?
[05:37] <Semilios> tar cjvf home.tar.bz2 /home/
[05:37] <genii> bzip2 and tar are 2 different compression things
[05:37] <llutz> tar doesn't compress at all
[05:37] <Semilios> but  tar offers to do the job?!
[05:37] <BluesKaj> ok, good , thx genii , i thought i was on the wrong track there for a bit because in adept there is no mention of the 'make' & makefile process
[05:38] <BluesKaj> under the build-essentil description
[05:38] <genii> Semilios: tar can pipe it's own compression eg: .tar  to some other thing for additional, like gzip for extension like .tar.gz   or so on. you can pipe tar to bzip2 for extension like .tar.bz2 for example
[05:39] <llutz> Semilios: don't compress backup if not needed. if something happens to the compressed archive, your data will be lost. its easier to reocver data from tar-archives
[05:39] <genii> BluesKaj: Interesting they don't say that in the description
[05:40] <BluesKaj> whew :)
[05:40] <Semilios> llutz, so normal *.tar  without "gz" ?
[05:40] <llutz> Semilios: thats the way i prefer
[05:40] <Semilios> ok
[05:40] <Semilios> thank you!
[05:40] <BluesKaj> don't wanna give the wrong advice
[05:40] <llutz> Semilios: tar cpf archive.tar /home
[05:40] <Semilios> interesting command llutz
[05:41] <BluesKaj> my head's a bit fuzzy today ... partied a bit to much yesterday
[05:41] <Semilios> llutz, I normaly use  "tar cvf home.tar /home/
[05:41] <BluesKaj> too much
[05:41] <ace_230294> Hi all
[05:41] <Yorokobi> Semilios, -p is handy for preserving file permissions
[05:41] <llutz> Semilios: p=preserve permissions
[05:42] <BluesKaj> thx genii :)
[05:42] <ace_230294> can someone help me with raid, my motherboard manual says the board has raid, and there is a message specific to linux just after post about eprom or something so how do i use raid?
[05:42] <Semilios> if I want to have both,  verbose AND saving permissions,  is there a special way to order the options?
[05:42] <ace_230294> i have the alternative installer disk
[05:42] <Semilios> cpfv   vcpf  ..?
[05:42] <genii> BluesKaj: np :) Thats what is in my roomates' hangover kit...
[05:42] <llutz> Semilios: f has to be the last before archive.name
[05:42] <Yorokobi> Semilios, tar cpvf yourtar.tar /location/of/files
[05:42] <ace_230294> its a ALive SATA2-Glan
[05:43] <ace_230294> motherboard
[05:43] <Semilios> Thank you llutz and Yorokobi
[05:44] <ace_230294> O_O
[05:44] <Semilios> oh dear.... it seems as if this will take DAY's to finish!
[05:44] <Semilios> how long will it take to save 20 GB into a tar file?
[05:45] <llutz> Semilios: depending on hd-speed and CPU: long, even: longer :)
[05:45] <Semilios> lol
[05:45] <Semilios> 1,4 GHZ
[05:45] <ace_230294> depends on the cpu and hard disk speed and the number of drives on an ide cable
[05:45] <Semilios> should I come back tomorrow or is it a question of 1 - 2 hours?
[05:45] <ace_230294> that should be enough to do it
[05:45] <Yorokobi> Semilios, it'll be about as long as it would take to copy the files to a different partition
[05:46] <Semilios> wow....
[05:46] <llutz> Semilios: take a nap
[05:47] <genii> Semilios: Go have lunch :)
[05:47] <Semilios> lunch *g*
[05:47] <humin> Any japanese Kubuntu user here?
[05:48] <Semilios> humin, #ubuntu-jp  could be a good start to look for a japanese ubuntu user
[05:48] <genii> Semilios: Anyhow, rough approximation would be something like a couple hours
[05:48] <humin> Semilios: thx for ur tip :)
[05:49] <Semilios> np
[05:49] <Semilios> COOL :)  He types in japanese sings :)
[05:49] <Semilios> well I will leave the japanese channel now
[05:49] <Semilios> :)
[05:52] <Yorokobi> Semilios, 
[05:52] <Semilios> Yorokobi, if I would speak japanese ..... ;)
[05:52] <Yorokobi> Semilios, ... It'd take me too long to translate :)
[05:54] <BluesKaj> u from japan , Yorokobi?
[05:54] <Yorokobi> BluesKaj, nope
[05:55] <scl> whow
[05:55] <Semilios> is there a list of the best and most important shell commands for linux?
[05:55] <Semilios> like the   tar cpvf yourtar.tar /location/of/files    one
[05:56] <genii> Semilios: Yes, i saw one yesterday in fact. Lemme pull it up and i'll post the link for you in a minute
[05:56] <Yorokobi> Semilios, Linux System Administration by O'Reilly is a good place to start. I don't know of any list, comprehensive or otherwise, of the "best and most important shell commands"
[05:57] <ksivaji> hi
[05:59] <genii> Semilios: From this jumpoff page http://hawthorn.csse.monash.edu.au/newbie?action=browse&diff=1&id=NewbieNeeds&diffrevision=1
[06:00] <genii> Semilios: Under ShellCheatSheet link are really ones most ppl need to know about
[06:00] <ace_0123> Hi all
[06:00] <ace_0123> anyone using gusty yet?
[06:02] <ksivaji> gusty  is not release yet is it ?
[06:02] <onechard> not released till october but running fine here
[06:03] <Karti> Hi all, is there a way to find out what type of memory I have in my PC from Kubuntu? As in the type - ddr 3200 etc?
[06:04] <BluesKaj> onechard, what graphics and sound cards do you have ?
[06:05] <Karti> Also is there a system manager that gives me details of motherboard, smart drives etc?
[06:05] <trantor> hoola!
[06:05] <dthacker-lt> Hi, I have three DNS servers listed in /etc/resolv.conf   If the first one is down or not available, how long before my machine makes the request to the second DNS server?
[06:05] <ADiCT3D> Is there a list of compatible laptops with Kubuntu?
[06:06] <dthacker-lt> !laptop
[06:06] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[06:06] <Karti> dthacker-lt: It shoud be automatic....
[06:06] <onechard> Blues running here on macbook pro 17 ati video intel sound
[06:06] <dthacker-lt> Karti: yes, but how quickly is it automatic?
[06:06] <onechard> home on nvdia 680i nforce sound nvidia 8800 gtx video
[06:07] <BluesKaj> ati eh , onechard , 3D and direct rendering ...in other words can you run google earth ?
[06:07] <Karti> I have only dealt with DNS in Windows, but  if a request is not returned, it moves to the next designated server and so on, so instant in the sense of not getting a reply
[06:07] <dthacker-lt> ADiCT3D: I can also tell you I'm running Dapper on a Compaq armada 700 and Fiesty on a Dell Inspiron 5100
[06:07] <wimpies> Does anybody know how/if i can enable SATA hotplugging ? I have a bay which allows me to plug/unplug a SATA disk and I want linux to automount the drive
[06:08] <onechard> hmm havent dtried google earth but open arena nexuiz all that run superb hang on i will grab it and see
[06:08] <ADiCT3D> dthacker-lt: I'm looking at an Asus G1 Gaming laptop for a Dual Boot of XP/Kubuntu
[06:09] <onechard> hang on blues dloading now
[06:09] <joncsn> wheres my recycle bin?
[06:09] <joncsn> probably a stupid question, but i cant find it
[06:10] <onechard> look in lower right hand corner
[06:10] <joncsn> theres nothing on my desktop
[06:10] <dthacker-lt> Karti: let's say that the first server is reachable, but not responding well, how long before I move to the next server
[06:10] <onechard> right of the clock?
[06:10] <dthacker-lt> joncsn: mines in the lower right, next to the clock
[06:10] <joncsn> its not on the bar at all
[06:12] <pag> joncsn, you can add it; right click the panel, choose "Add applet to panel" and there choose the Wastebin (or whatever it's called)
[06:12] <BluesKaj> onechard, i'm thinking ogf upgrading to 7.10 but I like google earth etc , being a bit of a geography hound
[06:12] <ADiCT3D> Can someone help me with this error?|File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Wammu/App.py", line 25, in <module>|import wxImportError: No module named wx
[06:12] <joncsn> thanks pag
[06:12] <Karti> dthacker-lt: It should do it strait away
[06:12] <Karti> straight away even!
[06:12] <dthacker-lt> joncsn: it's called "trash"
[06:12] <BluesKaj> and i'm running ati elcheapo graphics
[06:12] <joncsn> i found it
[06:12] <joncsn> thanks
[06:13] <dthacker-lt> Karti: tnx, I'm trying to resolve a response time problem, and I'm looking at all potential culprits
[06:13] <joncsn> there goes a gig of unwanted stuff
[06:14] <Karti> dthacker-lt: have you thought of commenting out the first dns from the resolv.conf and seeing what the difference is
[06:15] <dthacker-lt> Karti: yes, but its in production, so I'll have to do it after hours....  People get so cranky!
[06:16] <onechard_> BluesKaj googleearth runs just fine here
[06:16] <Karti> dthacker-lt: I was going to say just change the IP address of the first one so that it is wrong and then ping an address or a name such as yahoo.com to see the difference in time to the second dns server
[06:17] <hunkil> yamal: problem with samba solved.. only thing i had to do was to write smb.conf from scratch..:D it seems there was some default option that prevented me from browsing my shares..
[06:17] <BluesKaj> onechard_, i'm running ati elcheapo graphics , the X200G onboard and it's been a st :)ruggle to set things up right on feisty ...thx for checking
[06:18] <onechard_> you betcha it don't run like the nvidia at the house but it is smooth as my win box here at the office
[06:18] <dthacker-lt> Karti: yes, that's a good test,  I'll run it during my maintenance window.
[06:18] <BluesKaj> onechard_, cool :)
[06:18] <thrilla> how do i configure kubuntu so i can get on the internet?
[06:19] <onechard_> ati is a bit of a struggle but does okay
[06:19] <c2c2rock> whats up with the mouse pointer this is the 10th time i lost it how can i get it back without rebooting  funny thing to be unstable a Mouse Pointer HUH?!
[06:19] <elvin_> i wub u
[06:20] <dthacker-lt> thrilla: System Setting-->Network settings
[06:20] <thrilla> tried that
[06:20] <thrilla> it can see my ethernet adapter
[06:20] <thrilla> i think the router may be the problem
[06:20] <dthacker-lt> thrilla: then you need to tell us the error you received or the symptons you are experiencing
[06:21] <dthacker-lt> thrilla: Version?
[06:21] <thrilla> 7.04
[06:21] <thrilla> i get an error that says unable to load page
[06:22] <dthacker-lt> thrilla: in the system tray, do you see your ethernet connection as "connected"?
[06:22] <c2c2rock> this sucks
[06:22] <c2c2rock> why would  mouse pionter disappear?
[06:23] <dthacker-lt> c2c2rock: I don't know, have you tried another mouse?  Done the happy hardware dance and verified the mouse connections?
[06:24] <c2c2rock> the mouse werx on any other distro it keeps disappearing on kubuntu
[06:24] <ubuntu> hello
[06:24] <ubuntu> how can I enlagre screen resolution in kubuntu?
[06:24] <sonic3> back
[06:24] <sonic3> i got kicked
[06:24] <ubuntu> sorry I meant refresh rate
[06:25] <dthacker-lt> ubuntu: system settings ---> monitor and display.
[06:25] <ubuntu> I installed nvidia drivers
[06:25] <ubuntu> but in nvidia-settings there is strange thing:
[06:26] <ubuntu> at 1280x760 resolution I found only 60 Hz refresh rate
[06:26] <ubuntu> nothing higher...
[06:26] <RytmenPinnen> do you have a TFT?
[06:26] <RytmenPinnen> if so you dont need any higher
[06:26] <dthacker-lt> ubuntu: sorry, you're out of my range of expertise.  ;)
[06:26] <ubuntu> no CRT
[06:26] <ubuntu> unfortuntately
[06:27] <c2c2rock> oh i am just gunna reboot this is insane
[06:28] <dthacker-lt> bbl
[06:28] <RytmenPinnen> hmm, there have been some problems with refresh rates and resoltion in 7.04, When I first installed nvidia drivers my max res was 640x480 :S you cant even imagine how hard it is to google and trying to fix things with that resu
[06:28] <ubuntu> I suppose :)
[06:30] <RytmenPinnen> I believe it has something to do with X.org but I got lucky, I was told to do some changing in X.org but that screwed up my system totally, and when I replaced the edited xorg with the backed up one, everything just worked :S
[06:30] <RytmenPinnen> !fixres
[06:30] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:30] <RytmenPinnen> there :)
[06:31] <luis_> saludos
[06:31] <luis_> alguien que entienda espaol?
[06:31] <kerberos> si
[06:31] <luis_> que me pueda ayudar'
[06:32] <kerberos> que paso?
[06:32] <llutz> !es| luis_
[06:32] <luis_> hola kerberos
[06:32] <ubotu> luis_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:32] <kerberos> hola
[06:32] <luis_> tengo algunas dudas en kubuntu ya que soy ultra newbie
[06:32] <luis_> no logro habilitar la tarjeta de red wireless
[06:34] <c2c2rock>  luis_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:37] <c2c2rock> needs to get a coffee
[06:38] <c2c2rock> ok i have my mouse pointer again after reboot how praytell an i ensure i don't lose my mouse pointer again
[06:38] <c2c2rock> can*
[06:41] <Karti> I thought I had installed th envidia driver and I can get all my resolutions but I can't see the Open GL screen savers....any ideas?
[06:42] <vengance> hi
[06:42] <vengance> how to fix thi -> http://pastebin.com/m395bc60d
[06:42] <martijn> i have bought me a Linksys wrt54gl. Anyone a recommendation on an open source firmware for this router?
[06:43] <martijn> i see there is OpenWrt or DD-WRT
[06:43] <vengance> !python
[06:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:43] <vengance> !api
[06:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about api - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:46] <vbgunz> it is becoming seriously infuriating. I am somehow automatically logging out when I step away from the PC. this is horrible. any help!
[06:47] <thrilla> how do i configure my internet connection in kde
[06:48] <vbgunz> thrilla: kcontrol > internet and network
[06:48] <NickPresta> thrilla, in System Settings > Network Settings
[06:48] <thrilla> did that
[06:48] <vbgunz> knetworkmanager
[06:48] <thrilla> not working vbgunz
[06:48] <thrilla> its getting a wrong ip
[06:49] <NickPresta> vbgunz, when you "step away" is your screensaver starting? What exactly happens before you are logged off?
[06:49] <vbgunz> NickPresta: not exactly sure. it is random... not sure why it's happening :(
[06:49] <thrilla> !internet
[06:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about internet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:50] <NickPresta> vbgunz, is your session saved or do you think this is happening due to an error?
[06:50] <thrilla> so what do i need to do to fix this?
[06:51] <vbgunz> my sessions are never saved. it is very upsetting because I always have several programs out and some need to run e.g., ktorrent.
[06:52] <genii> thrilla: It sounds like there is another underlying issue here like for inmstance that your wireless is latching onto your neighbour's access point or similar
[06:52] <vbgunz> thrilla: I feel your pain. a pc is almost worthless without a net connection :( at least to me...
[06:53] <vbgunz> NickPresta: could it be possible to find out in my logs whats happening?
[06:54] <vbgunz> could my logs maybe show the reason why I am logging out? otherwise, this has never happened to me while logged in (kicked out) and the pc performs great, always has. this is just a new phenomena thats really bothering me, hard :(
[06:54] <c2c2rock> so strange how this distro will not allow me to have anything higher than 800x600
[06:54] <genii> thrilla: Is the IP something like 169.x.x.x ?
[06:54] <thrilla> yes
[06:54] <c2c2rock> winblowws
[06:55] <genii> thrilla: Then it's not getting a number from whatever is supposed to hand out numbers, like your router
[06:55] <thrilla> so my router is not giving it an ip?
[06:55] <genii> thrilla Exactly
[06:56] <vbgunz> c2c2rock: my monitor can only run up to 1280x1024 and my card supports it but I tweaked my xorg with "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and am overclocking it I guess at 1680x1050. this could be a reason why I am logging out by myself... I did notice my logging out after this main event :/
[06:56] <genii> thrilla: If it's wireless it may be out of range or you need to configure that part of your router/access point thru it's web interface on a machine directly wired to it.
[06:57] <vbgunz> c2c2rock: I have a 17 inch monitor and a nvidia card. I can paste my xorg if you want to try it
[06:57] <thrilla> its not wireless
[06:58] <c2c2rock> sure last time I kiboshed the system though last time i tried to edit xorg anyways
[06:59] <vbgunz> well, I'll paste it but last time I remember I chose every resolution possible AND then said I had a 21 inch monitor... that was about all I needed to do. that may work for you too. BACK UP your xorg and try to reconfigure "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" OR try my config, one sec
[07:00] <c2c2rock> seems X is very unstable altogether here in *ubuntu
[07:00] <genii> thrilla: If it's a wired connection then basically same advice except also make sure that the cables which connect computer to router are not crossover cables (tho on newer ones it should autodetect those) or whether you are supposed to have the router do the login or the computer. If the computer does the username login part of your ISP setup you need to configure your connection for pppoe or similar instead of everything auto
[07:00] <vbgunz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31567/
[07:00] <thrilla> its cable modem
[07:00] <thrilla> no pppoe needed
[07:00] <vbgunz> c2c2rock: I've commented out some things
[07:01] <genii> thrilla: For instance on windoze machines places like sympatico would send you a setup CD which does the pppoe login part on your computer
[07:01] <vbgunz> you might want to look it over rather than just copy and paste
[07:01] <mikkael> where can i change the color of the font used on the desktop ?
[07:01] <Semilios> Thank you genii and Yorokobi for the tips where to find a list of nice commands for the shell  (2 hours ago)
[07:01] <thrilla> well
[07:01] <c2c2rock> ty vbgunz i prolly won't use it but i can try to build from it maybe
[07:01] <genii> thrilla: Then I suggest to check cabling, then next the part of the administration section on the router which does the dhcp serving
[07:02] <mikkael> somehow it turned into black, thats difficult to read
[07:02] <vbgunz> mikkael: right click desktop > configure
[07:02] <genii> Semilios: :)
[07:02] <c2c2rock> last time i got help ion this in here I fcuked myself Ova
[07:02] <briag> hello
[07:02] <mikkael> vbgunz: cant find the color of the font
[07:02] <vbgunz> c2c2rock: just back up and try, if it fails, restore otherwise if it works, once in, try messing with the resolution though kcontrol
[07:03] <c2c2rock> easy for you to say :p
[07:03] <vbgunz> mikkael: try clicking on the advanced button on the first screen
[07:03] <genii> thrilla: Also if you have multiple network adapters make sure the one which ubuntu thinks is eth0 is the one plugged in
[07:03] <vbgunz> c2c2rock: shouldn't hurt to try :)
[07:03] <mikkael> vbgunz: thanks a lot
[07:04] <vbgunz> mikkael: np :)
[07:04] <c2c2rock> it should just work like it does in mandriva Many Querky things I am having to deal with Migrating to Kubuntu
[07:05] <vbgunz> c2c2rock: if you need help, let me know
[07:05] <vbgunz> now, can anyone help me figure out my automatically logging out? please don't say my PC is possessed :(
[07:05] <c2c2rock> yeah help me find a freaking distro that doesn't have so many Wonky Querks about it :p
[07:05] <Semilios> hey guys,  maybe you remember that I talked about a backup some hours ago.
[07:06] <Semilios> The *.tar file has been created now
[07:06] <Semilios> but a problem came up when copying the TAR file to my external harddrive
[07:06] <Semilios> root@box:/home# cp user-last-27.07.2007.tar /media/Elements/standgeraet_27-07-2007/
[07:06] <Semilios> File size limit exceeded
[07:06] <Semilios> root@box:/home#
[07:06] <llutz> Semilios: external drive is vfat? vfat has 4GB- filesize limit
[07:06] <vbgunz> heh, Kubuntu is fine. I hope your quirks get solved :)
[07:06] <c2c2rock> this headache i have is calling me back to mandriva
[07:06] <Semilios> llutz, I think its fat32
[07:07] <llutz> Semilios: fat32 = vfat
[07:07] <Semilios> oh
[07:07] <vbgunz> Semilios: you might want to look into rsync. I use it to do some amazing backup work
[07:07] <llutz> Semilios: you have to use different filesystem to store large files
[07:07] <Semilios> perfect,  all done for *nothing*
[07:07] <llutz> Semilios: split tar-file into several 4GB-slices
[07:08] <Semilios> is it a bad idea to do  "cp -R /home/user  /media/Elements/user
[07:08] <llutz> Semilios: use cp -a
[07:08] <Semilios> lemme look for the "a"  option
[07:08] <c2c2rock> bleh
[07:09] <vbgunz> Semilios: if all else fails, try rsync
[07:09] <genii> llutz: Another argument for ext3 shared partitions instead of FAT :)
[07:09] <llutz> genii: sure
[07:09] <llutz> vbgunz: with rsync to vfat you'll lose permissions
[07:10] <Semilios> how does ignore work?
[07:10] <Semilios> /ignore *!*@*res28652.rh.rit.edu
[07:10] <Semilios> does not work
[07:10] <genii> Semilios: If you do some recursive copy of a users files, do also the -p for preserving permissions
[07:10] <llutz> genii: that's why i suppose to use "cp -a"
[07:11] <vbgunz> llutz: ahh, yes, I understand. my backup disk are all ext3. damn... :/
[07:11] <genii> llutz: I found that behaves unexpectedly when from sudo. you still need -p for some reason
[07:11] <mrkaps> someone needs to ban this guy
[07:11] <vbgunz> heh, ignore him?
[07:12] <vbgunz> does that work?
[07:12] <mrkaps> not with my client
[07:12] <vbgunz> I never ignored anyone, so not sure
[07:12] <Semilios> I just want to get rid of all the andrew_ join / leave messages in the window
[07:12] <Yorokobi> Semilios, /ignore #kubuntu parts quits joins
[07:13] <Semilios>  Unknown arg 'parts' ignored.
[07:13] <Semilios>  Unknown arg 'quits' ignored.
[07:13] <Semilios>  Unknown arg 'joins' ignored.
[07:13] <manu_> hi
[07:13] <manu_> i changed something in kaffeine and wanted the standard settings, how do i get them? :S
[07:13] <genii> Semilios: One of them at a time :)
[07:13] <Yorokobi> Semilios, okay ... ask your client for /help ignore
[07:13] <pag> manu_, removing config files should do the job
[07:13] <vbgunz> Yorokobi: you can look into ~/.kde and perhaps delete kaffeine configs there and try again
[07:14] <mikkael> how do i turn dolphin into the default file-manager ?
[07:14] <Yorokobi> vbgunz, I think you intended that for manu_ ?
[07:14] <vbgunz> Yorokobi: yes, sorry
[07:14] <vbgunz> manu_: you can look into ~/.kde and perhaps delete kaffeine configs there and try again
[07:15] <vbgunz> mikkael: kcontrol > kde components > default applications
[07:15] <roel_> help
[07:15] <roel_> how do i change my nickname in irc ?? :p
[07:15] <MaTiAz> roel_: /nick (new nick)
[07:15] <llutz> roel_: /nick newnick
[07:15] <roel_> ah lol
[07:15] <mikkael> vbgunz: there is no file-manager option !?
[07:15] <vbgunz> anyone know if I have logs for why I log out OR when I logged out? I am not sure why but I am somehow automatically logging out
[07:15] <MaTiAz> :)
[07:15] <dikkelu> I was typing /name :p
[07:16] <vbgunz> mikkael: run through the options and you see some are set to be only openeded by Konqueror... folders e.g.,
[07:16] <Semilios> will "cp" also copy hidden files and directories?
[07:16] <c2c2rock> this totally Sucks i edit xorg and restart X and everything is exactly the same and Again I lost my mouse pointer really this is INSANe
[07:17] <llutz> Semilios: yes
[07:17] <pag> mikkael, right click any folder, choose open with -> other; choose dolpin and make sure you tick the "remember file association" box
[07:17] <vbgunz> c2c2rock: have you tried dpkg-reconfigure?
[07:17] <c2c2rock> yes
[07:17] <mikkael> pag: that worked, thanks
[07:17] <vbgunz> :(
[07:18] <Yorokobi> c2c2rock, did you use the -phigh option with the dpkg-reconfigure command?
[07:18] <c2c2rock> this is the 5th install as well i am getting sick of this
[07:18] <c2c2rock> yes i tried that tooo
[07:18] <dikkelu> if you compile something, should you do something special to get the make uninstall option (if you ever want to remove it?)
[07:18] <c2c2rock> mouse pointer disappearing has got to be the most annoying thing ever
[07:19] <vbgunz> mikkael: so sorry, it is not in "default applications" it is in "file associations" ... sorry :(
[07:19] <jhutchins> dikkelu: Best thing you can do is first see if the uninstall target is included in the make file.
[07:19] <llutz> dikkelu: build a checkinstall-deb at least, never use "make install"
[07:19] <mikkael> thanks for the quick help, c ya
[07:19] <keith> Im having problems with beryl...can anyone help?
[07:19] <jhutchins> dikkelu: Some people have had success by capturing the output of "make install".  If it's sufficiently verbose, you can sometimes reverse it.
[07:20] <jhutchins> dikkelu: Otherwise, you need to read the makefile and figure out what it did.
[07:20] <pag> keith, consider asking in #ubuntu-effects
[07:20] <manu_> vbgunz: pag Yorokobi ehm, i use kubuntu edgy eft and as i can see some look n feel is preconfigured in kaffeine if i delete this config files, will i get standard look n feel of kaffeine or the one ubuntu developers chose for me?
[07:20] <dikkelu> llutz:how do you do that?
[07:20] <keith> thanks PAG, will do. :)
[07:20] <llutz> dikkelu: install checkinstall, read the man-page and use it
[07:21] <vbgunz> manu_: rename the file and see what happens. if you don't like it, rename it back ;)
[07:21] <manu_> and which configs exactly?
[07:21] <pag> manu_, the one devs have chosen iirc.
[07:21] <vbgunz> manu_: kaffeine configs... never ~/.kde :)
[07:21] <Yorokobi> manu_, you'll get the standard one (distribution standard). You can always purge kaffeine and re-install it, too.
[07:21] <jhutchins> manu_: What are you comparing it to?
[07:22] <vbgunz> Yorokobi: does --purge get rid of the home configs? in my case it never works :(
[07:22] <manu_> i changed something in xine video options also in experts tab and after changing, some options tehre disappeared oO dont know why
[07:22] <Yorokobi> vbgunz, I would hope so but I've never actually checked. Good question.
[07:23] <c2c2rock> so can anybuddy help with getting my mouse pointer reappear
[07:23] <vbgunz> Yorokobi: yeah my home dir is a mess from --purged apps... heh, I need to learn how to audit :/
[07:23] <c2c2rock> to reappear
[07:23] <c2c2rock> without rebooting
[07:24] <vbgunz> c2c2rock: you know how to restart X after a change to X?
[07:24] <c2c2rock> idid every time i do reset x I lose my mouse pointer
[07:24] <devang> does kubuntu have synaptic?
[07:24] <genii> Yorokobi: I don't think it purges stuff in /home/arbitraryname  because these are made on a case by case basis when the app is used by that person
[07:24] <c2c2rock> and so far the only way to ge it back is reboot
[07:25] <pag> devang, not by default, but it can be installed
[07:25] <devang> pag: does kubuntu have something simliar to itt?
[07:25] <dikkelu> I have compiled apache2 in /opt
[07:25] <vbgunz> c2c2rock: wow, something is wrong I would think. that shouldn't happen :(
[07:25] <dikkelu> how can i start it now?
[07:26] <vbgunz> dikkelu: the default apache found in the repos won't do?
[07:26] <jhutchins> dikkelu: Why did you compile it instead of installing the binary?
[07:26] <pag> devang, Kubuntu has Adept... It performs the same tasks as Synaptic (or at least it should)
[07:26] <devang> pag: okay thanks
[07:26] <Yorokobi> dikkelu, compiling your own pretty much negates most support you're going to get from the Ubuntu community.
[07:26] <jhutchins> devang: as pag said, synaptic can be installed too.
[07:26] <devang> jhutchins: okay thanks
[07:27] <c2c2rock> and my mouse settings never took and niether did my X settings I am heading back to mandriva or maybe even puppylinux this really sucks I had faith in kubuntu but now i am havin to file it under lame = file 9
[07:27] <jhutchins> Most of us end up working from the command line though, it's simpler and quicker.
[07:27] <dikkelu> nevermind, i just wanna learn how to compile it. yesterday they helped me here but I will find it out.
[07:27] <Semilios> a problem came up while copying the files via  cp -R
[07:27] <Semilios> cp: cannot create regular file `/media/Elements/Getr\204nke ??.doc': Invalid argument
[07:27] <Semilios> that problem comes up very often ...
[07:27] <Semilios> Invalid argument
[07:27] <Semilios> ....
[07:28] <Semilios> most of the times by files with umlouts and special chars
[07:28] <c2c2rock> one more try and if i cannot get X to work properly I am forced to go elsewhere
[07:28] <Yorokobi> Semilios, cp doesn't like unescaped spaces in file names
[07:28] <jhutchins> dikkelu: There is #apache
[07:28] <Semilios> ok,  the tarball is too big (20 GB) and cp doesn't work
[07:28] <Semilios> how should I get the data to my fat32  harddrive?
[07:28] <vbgunz> Semilios: are you copying to a FAT FS?
[07:29] <Semilios> yes vbgunz
[07:29] <vbgunz> someone said before, there is a limit 4GB I think
[07:29] <jhutchins> Semilios: I suggest you use find with the exec option.
[07:29] <vbgunz> you'll have to split it
[07:30] <jhutchins> dikkelu: It's not that we're being unfriendly or anything, but we haven't compiled our own apache, so how would we know where files got placed or what they're called?
[07:30] <Semilios> jhutchins, what exec option?
[07:30] <Semilios> vbgunz, thats the last option
[07:30] <Semilios> vbgunz, I hope for a better solution
[07:30] <vbgunz> you will corrupt your backup as I believe it will truncate itself from 20GB to 4GB, I found out the hard way once :/
[07:30] <jhutchins> dikkelu: If it didn't put a standard start-up file in /etc/init.d, I wouldn't know what to tell you to start it.
[07:30] <jhutchins> dikkelu: You could always see if httpd is on your path.
[07:31] <Semilios> vbgunz, so its risky ... right?
[07:31] <jhutchins> Semilios: it's in the manpage, a bit too complex to explain here, but you can use quotes around the filespec and it should copy them just fine.
[07:31] <jhutchins> Semilios: rsync might also handle the filenames better.
[07:32] <vbgunz> Semilios: FAT has a 4GB limit. e.g., once I tried copying a 5+GB backup tar and it corrupted on me to the point of no return. thats how I found out about the FAT limit :(
[07:32] <c2c2rock-puptop> LOL
[07:32] <c2c2rock-puptop> now i can only get a tty lgin'
[07:32] <c2c2rock-puptop> NO X
[07:32] <dikkelu> i thought maybe somebody did jhutchins :)
[07:32] <c2c2rock-puptop> this happend yesterdy
[07:32] <vbgunz> c2c2rock-puptop: heh, you using iirc?
[07:32] <c2c2rock-puptop> i am using gaim on my puppylinux box
[07:33] <c2c2rock-puptop> there is NO X on kubuntu now \
[07:33] <Semilios> jhutchins: so this would work?          cp -R "/home/user/"  "/media/Elements"   instead of      cp -R /home/user/  /media/Elements
[07:33] <Semilios> ?
[07:33] <jhutchins> Semilios: Dunno - try it.
[07:33] <Semilios> whats about copying it using konqueror?
[07:33] <jhutchins> Semilios: I doubt it will have any effect, since there's no illegal characters in the command, just in the expanded filenames.
[07:34] <c2c2rock-puptop> i tried to edit xorg and again I hooped it
[07:34] <Semilios> konqueror should be able to handle illegal characters
[07:34] <c2c2rock-puptop> I am stuck with No X now
[07:34] <c2c2rock-puptop> like i said yesterday should just stuck with 800x600 FCK!!!!!!!!!!
[07:34] <jhutchins> Semilios: Again, you can try it, but I usually find that since GUI apps use the internal system commands, they suffere from the same weaknesses, they just hide them better.
[07:35] <Semilios> hum
[07:35] <jhutchins> c2c2rock-puptop: You know, we're just fellow users here.  You have nothing to prove to us.
[07:35] <c2c2rock-puptop> prove nothing
[07:35] <c2c2rock-puptop> i am Mad is all
[07:35] <jhutchins> c2c2rock-puptop: It's not our fault, and please watch the language.
[07:35] <devang> Hmm if I install something with Adept where can I find it?
[07:35] <vbgunz> c2c2rock-puptop: I feel the pain, my resolution is important to me... whats your monitor size and what card you have?
[07:36] <genii> Semilios: Please remember about the switches for permissions as well.
[07:36] <c2c2rock-puptop> nv 19"
[07:36] <vbgunz> c2c2rock-puptop: what resolution do you know you can for a fact support on your setup?
[07:36] <Semilios> genii, the permissions cannot preserved on a fat32 harddrive afaik
[07:36] <jhutchins> devang: dpkg -L <package>
[07:36] <c2c2rock-puptop> amd 64
[07:37] <c2c2rock-puptop> never had this issue with any other distro
[07:37] <genii> Semilios: aH, THIS IS TRUE. sO YOU WILL NEED TO CHOWN THEM AFTERWARDS ANYHOW
[07:37] <genii> ARG capslock
[07:37] <jhutchins> genii: Actually, ownership is preserved.
[07:38] <devang> jhutchins: thanks
[07:38] <genii> jhutchins: With just -R ??
[07:38] <vbgunz> c2c2rock-puptop: I swear I had problems and then more than came up with a satifactory solution by choosing every single res option and lying about my monitor size in dpkg-reconfigure (choosing the largest 21")
[07:39] <c2c2rock-puptop> i did try that
[07:39] <Semilios> ok,  how can I TAR  a directory and tell  tar  to  fill the tarballs in a manner, that every tarball remains under 4 GB ?
[07:39] <genii> jhutchins: From habit I usually do something like -dpR since bsd has no -a
[07:39] <vbgunz> Semilios: no matter what happens, you're going to need to split files larger than 4GB. I would split at 3.5 to be safe OR 2GB to be safer... I wouldn't even try 4GB even to be honest
[07:40] <vbgunz> Semilios: look into the "split" app
[07:40] <Ace2016> HI all :D
[07:40] <vbgunz> Semilios: OR try "apropos split" on the command line
[07:40] <Ace2016> i need help installing kubuntu from the alternative installer disk
[07:40] <Ace2016> it keeps erroring out
[07:41] <c2c2rock-puptop> like i said this is the 5th install of kubuntu trying to Prove that it doesn't SUCK but maybe i shoulda listened to the puppylinux people
[07:41] <Semilios> okay
[07:41] <Semilios> thank you vbgunz
[07:41] <Ace2016> c2c2rock-puptop: what did they say?
[07:41] <vbgunz> np :)
[07:41] <c2c2rock-puptop> that ubuntu Sux
[07:41] <Yorokobi> c2c2rock-puptop, go back to your puppies then
[07:41] <c2c2rock-puptop> i am there DFUCJDCX:Lknasdkhksa
[07:41] <c2c2rock-puptop> s
[07:41] <genii> heh
[07:41] <vbgunz> heh
[07:42] <Ace2016> the alternative installer just gave me errors, couldn't configure console-setup because it needed udev to be installed or something which kept making debootstrap fail or something like that
[07:42] <Ace2016> puppy linux is debian based right?
[07:42] <c2c2rock-puptop> i also recieved much nicer support never had any issues with X and or mouse pointer
[07:42] <Ace2016> i can't get it installed :(
[07:43] <Ace2016> well i have a working install now, but i can't get raid to work
[07:43] <Ace2016> seems i've got to start using my stupid skill set
[07:43] <vbgunz> well, I am gonna read some news... people have fun!
[07:44] <Ace2016> vbgunz: well there is flooding in the uk
[07:44] <vbgunz> Ace2016: lucky they have universal healthcare then huh ;)
[07:45] <Ace2016> well its not exactly like that but yea, luckier than other countries
[07:48] <Ace2016> are hard drives supposed to make high pitched noises when writing lots?
[07:48] <devang> Depends on your harddrive
[07:49] <Ace2016> oh well, if they fail i'll just use the warranty
[07:49] <Yorokobi> Ace2016, its the low-pitched "clunks" that you need to watch out for :)
[07:49] <devang> And the processor melting heat
[07:49] <Karti> Ace2016: did you test your media before install?
[07:49] <Yorokobi> devang, you don't hear that so much as smell it. By then, it is too late.
[07:50] <Ace2016> not clunks, just a continuous noise when writing the inode or something, i was formatting with ext3 just now in qtparted
[07:50] <Ace2016> Karti: nope
[07:50] <Ace2016> Karti: any way to do it from a running installed version?
[07:50] <devang> Yorokobi: I have my case open and I have still have burns on my hand from 2 months ago from touching my hard drive and processor
[07:50] <Karti> I had issues where 3 burned images were wrong.......and it caused no end of problems.
[07:51] <Ace2016> oh, ok i'll do that now
[07:51] <Ace2016> brb
[07:51] <Karti> You could just reboot with the live cd and chose check media....it won't write to your drive anyway
[07:51] <Yorokobi> devang, ouch. Sounds like you could benefit to going liquid cooling :)
[07:51] <devang> Yorokobi: there's a lot I can benefit from if I had 80 bucks lol
[07:51] <genii_> bah ghosted
[07:57] <Karti> Hi again, just installed compiz - could someone tell me how to initiate it?
[07:59] <ubuntu__> hello all
[07:59] <ubuntu__> is there nyone who can help me 4 one thing...
[07:59] <ubuntu__> i cannot play audios from live cd
[07:59] <ubuntu__> i mean, when i go for playing videos.. it plays... without ny sound
[08:00] <ubuntu__> please help me
[08:00] <devang> ubuntu: what are you trying to play?
[08:00] <jhutchins> ubuntu__: What formats have you tried to play?
[08:01] <ubuntu__> mp3
[08:01] <ubuntu__> jhutchins: mp3
[08:01] <devang> ubuntu_: you have to download plugins for mp3 because it's not open source
[08:01] <ubuntu__> jhutchins: plus i wanted to play video of mpg file format
[08:01] <ubuntu__> devang: kk
[08:01] <ubuntu__> devang: but what about videos?
[08:01] <devang> ubuntu_: same try mplayer
[08:02] <jhutchins> ubuntu__: It will play open formats, but not propietary formats.
[08:02] <jhutchins> ubuntu__: You can install software to play restricted formats on a regular install.
[08:02] <ubuntu__> devang: there is no mplayer in live cd
[08:02] <ubuntu__> jhutchins: i know, i can download stuffs...
[08:03] <ubuntu__> jhutchins: but i wanted to know how i can play from live cd
[08:03] <jhutchins> ubuntu__: Only open formats.
[08:03] <devang> ubuntu_: even in the install you have to download mplayer
[08:04] <ubuntu__> devang: thnx bro, but how about live cd? how can i play with live cd??
[08:04] <devang> ubuntu_: install mplayer
[08:04] <ubuntu__> devang: is there no other way but doing installation of mplayer?
[08:04] <Yorokobi> ubuntu__, you won't be able to play mp3s from the liveCD without installing extra packages. Or, convert your mp3s to ogg
[08:05] <devang> YorokobI: Kubuntu doesn't come with a convertor preinstalled though does it?
[08:05] <Yorokobi> I don't believe it does.
[08:05] <devang> I think he's trying to avoid downloading stuff
[08:06] <ubuntu__> devang: ya... u r right
[08:06] <hacker128> any ideas as to itunes drm-infected files?
[08:07] <hacker128> how to play them in dapper
[08:07] <devang> hacker128: define drm-infected?
[08:07] <Yorokobi> hacker128, use iTunes to burn them to CD then rip them from the CD to MP3 or OGG
[08:08] <ubuntu__> Yorokobi: so.. there is no way.. i can play mpg ( with audio) from live cd....8-(
[08:08] <hacker128> I only have the m4as and no itunes. I formatted my HD when installing ubuntu, but backed up the m4as.
[08:09] <hacker128> but i only have 10.00 bucks worth, so i dont mind.
[08:10] <Yorokobi> ubuntu__, it looks that way.
[08:12] <hacker128> I am behind a wireless router. How can I start a web sserver?
[08:13] <hacker128> is anyone here?
[08:13] <vbgunz> anyone know what can cause Kubuntu to automatically logout? this always happens when I leave the room so I never see it log out :/
[08:13] <hacker128> so you get a login screen?
[08:14] <lontra> anyone know why my rockbox ipod isn't auto-mounting in kubuntu?  do i need to do something?  i see it with dmesg
[08:14] <hacker128> yes. tell it to start is disk mode.
[08:15] <lontra> hacker128: how?
[08:15] <hacker128> no idea. i use ipodlinux.
[08:15] <hacker128> do you use Fiesty?
[08:15] <lontra> yeah
[08:15] <vbgunz> hacker128: yes, I get my login screen, not the screensaver login prompt but the KDM login screen
[08:16] <devang> vbgunz: you probably have it set up like that?
[08:16] <hacker128> that must have taken quite a while to type!
[08:16] <hacker128> yeah.
[08:16] <hacker128> Check System Settings.
[08:16] <vbgunz> devang: no way, how can I check? I don't remember setting any automatic logout options and did look for such an option without success. where can I look?
[08:17] <devang> vbgunz: I don't remember exactly I'm on Ubuntu right now.. it's probably under system settings though
[08:18] <vbgunz> devang: I did look for it without success all up and down kcontrol. I must be missing it but know I would never enable it... I need help in this area, anyone know where to look?
[08:18] <devang> try help and search for login settings
[08:18] <ubuntu__> so guys... u cannot help me to do so..
[08:18] <devang> ubuntu_: with what?
[08:19] <vbgunz> devang: I'll look again
[08:19] <ubuntu__> devang: i told you, bro
[08:19] <jhutchins> vbgunz: If you figure out why it's doing that, let me know, I have  a system I would like that to happen with.
[08:19] <devang> ubuntu_: don't blame us for that.. blame capitalism
[08:19] <ubuntu__> devang: hahaha
[08:19] <vbgunz> jhutchins: heh
[08:19] <ubuntu__> devang: i have nothing to say about politics or policies of Open Source
[08:20] <ubuntu__> devang: only i know that... "can i play audio with kubuntu live cd?"
[08:20] <devang> ubuntu_: you can play audio just not the audio your trying to play
[08:20] <jhutchins> ubuntu__: Yes, you can play open format audio with the kubuntu live CD.
[08:20] <devang> ubuntu_: you can play what you want but you have to install things for it which you don't want to do.. lol
[08:20] <vzduch> vbgunz: are you sure it cleanly logs out?  or is it rather the X server or the machine crashing and restarting?
[08:20] <ubuntu__> jhutchins: devang: that means oss format
[08:20] <hacker128> or ogg
[08:21] <jhutchins> ubuntu__: You can also remaster the live CD so that you can play restricted format media with it.
[08:21] <hacker128> thats reburn fyi
[08:21] <ubuntu__> devang: listne bro... i am using Debian... nd i know how to configure stuff....with modprobe i810 or something like that
[08:21] <vbgunz> vzduch: thats an excellent question... that could be happening. not sure. I come back and find I am logged out :/
[08:21] <devang> ubuntu_: so? lol
[08:21] <hacker128> check system logs
[08:22] <ubuntu__> but, the thing is.. one of my friend is using Windows... so... i have convinced him to use open source stuff
[08:22] <vbgunz> yes, was looking at the logs in /var *but* I have so many and not sure which exactly might be the one :(
[08:22] <jhutchins> ubuntu__: If you want to make permanent changes on the live CD, like adding software or changing configurations, you can do so and then re-burn it.
[08:22] <vbgunz> any help on this would be awesome. I think X may be crashing
[08:22] <hacker128>  /var/log!
[08:22] <ubuntu__> devang: nd if her kubuntu cannot play audio or video with audio.. it will be :P for me
[08:22] <ubuntu__> 8-(
[08:22] <vbgunz> hacker128: I know about /var/log but not which log exactly to look at. I have plenty
[08:23] <devang> ubuntu_: you can install it.. then install mplayer so why not?
[08:23] <vbgunz> I just converted nearly 1000+ audio files to OGG and am happy I did :)
[08:23] <devang> ubuntu_: even on Windows you have to install Media Player
[08:23] <jhutchins> ubuntu__: So remaster the CD with restricted format support.
[08:23] <vbgunz> now I just need to do my video *but* thats an entirely different story
[08:23] <jhutchins> ubuntu__: There are plenty of docs on the web about remastering live CD's.
[08:23] <vzduch> I believe it was shortly after the release of vorbis-tools 1.0
[08:23] <devang> ubuntu_: or tell her to type some simple commands to install it lol
[08:24] <vzduch> my first encoder was the (then a bit unstable) OggdropXPd on Windoze
[08:25] <ubuntu__> thnx bro... good night
[08:25] <hacker128>  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:25] <ubuntu__> GOD BLESS YOUUUUUUUUUUU
[08:25] <devang> lol
[08:25] <hacker128> would be your best bet.
[08:25] <ubuntu__> devang: haha
[08:25] <devang> vzduch: my school vista comp says: Welcome to Windoze - home of lusers now it boots almost as fast as kubuntu
[08:26] <hacker128> lol
[08:26] <devang> so the more you diss windows the more it becomes linux posery..
[08:30] <dozpazoz> hi
[08:30] <dozpazoz> !flash
[08:30] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[08:30] <dozpazoz> great
[08:31] <dozpazoz> !fonts
[08:31] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[08:34] <ufo123> !flash
[08:34] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[08:35] <Karti> Just installed beryl, but now my windows top bar is missing except for the items in it such as File View etc any ideas?
[08:35] <devang> karti: what theme are you using?
[08:36] <devang> karti: some themes for KDE make it look nothing like it should so that it adds more customisabliity so try the theme you used before activating beryl
[08:37] <Karti> devang: tried to change using the manager but it appeared to make no difference
[08:38] <devang> karti: try turning off beryl and see if that's the problem
[08:39] <devang> karti: i haven't tried beryl in kubuntu but if it's because of beryl you can edit how your windows look so try that
[08:39] <Karti> devang: cheers just playing with it now
[08:39] <devang> karti: your welcome
[08:40] <dec> i just installed xfishtank and would like to know how to get it to run
[08:44] <dec> i just installed xfishtank and would like to know how to get it to run
[08:50] <martijn> any linksys wrt54gl users here?
[08:56] <ufo123> kupi 3 kilo kiebasy i musztard
[08:56] <arun> hello
[08:57] <ufo123> w poniedziaek nawpierdzielam si kiebachy i musztardy
[08:57] <martijn> !english | ufo123
[08:57] <ubotu> ufo123: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[08:58] <ufo123> how to install kiebacha with musztarda?
[08:59] <martijn> no clue what it is, but isn't there an install.txt?
[09:00] <vzduch> o0
[09:01] <genii> bah need to restart X back in a bit
[09:03] <doopy> hay, can anyone help me get the mail() function to work in php
[09:05] <doopy> anyone
[09:05] <vbgunz> brb
[09:14] <george2002> hi
[09:14] <vbgunz> well I made some corrections to my xorg that got rid of a couple errors in my log. I also, add libwfb.so to my nvidia installation
[09:14] <vbgunz> hopefully this helps keep me from logging out
[09:15] <lontra> my ipod isn't being recognized when i plug it into kubuntu ... :(
[09:17] <vbgunz> how do I completely restart *another* session? I logged out of another session and for about 5 minutes now, the screen is still stuck on restarting this, relaoding that, etc" ... How do I kill that?
[09:18] <vbgunz> it's not X, I see this in the terminal
[09:18] <zibert> 
[09:18] <amnesiac_> hi folks
[09:18] <ufo123> how to install kiebacha with musztarda?
[09:19] <boris_> i have a problem
[09:19] <boris_> when I make stage it trows so many errors
[09:19] <lontra> !info file libcyrpto
[09:19] <boris_> what do I check to do
[09:19] <ubotu> file: Determines file type using "magic" numbers. In component main, is standard. Version 4.19-1ubuntu2.1 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 120 kB
[09:20] <vbgunz> forget it, I logged back into the session and it started on the desktop with no problem...
[09:20] <boris_> i can starte it
[09:20] <boris_> it says
[09:20] <boris_> :
[09:20] <zibert> Hi fools
[09:20] <boris_> boris@laik:~/Desktop/stage-2.0.0$ src/stest worlds/simple.world robot1
[09:20] <boris_> bash: src/stest: No such file or directory
[09:21] <zibert> I will fuck KAV in asshole
[09:21] <kaminix> Anyone know a good daemon tools like app for Kubuntu?
[09:22] <Hirvinen> kaminix: mount
[09:22] <amnesiac_> kaminix: try gdesklets its nice
[09:23] <kaminix> No, I mean a graphic tool doing the same tool.
[09:23] <zibert> I wiil fuck KAV in asshole
[09:23] <kaminix> amnesiac_: There's a gdesklet tool for doing it? What's it called?
[09:23] <Jeff_Mitchell> hi, does anyone here know how to do a portscan? (on my own computer of course, for security reasons :P ) are there any applications installed by default in Kubuntu? i know that Ubuntu has such network tools...
[09:24] <zibert> A suka,a ziggurd, I gare GO!
[09:24] <underdog5004> !nmap | Jeff_Mitchell
[09:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nmap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <underdog5004> Jeff_Mitchell, use nmap
[09:24] <underdog5004> sudo apt-get install nmap
[09:24] <vzduch> wasn't nmap discontinued?
[09:24] <underdog5004> the man pages will tell you what to do
[09:24] <vzduch> or renamed?
[09:24] <underdog5004> vzduch, I'm not sure...
[09:24] <kaminix> Why do you use apt-get and not aptitude?
[09:25] <Lynoure> vzduch: ethereal was renamed... Maybe mixing up those two?
[09:25] <zibert> becouse it`s very easy
[09:25] <genii> !info nmap
[09:25] <ubotu> nmap: The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.20-1 (feisty), package size 732 kB, installed size 2644 kB
[09:25] <vzduch> kaminix: because aptitude installs recommended packages as dependencies automatically.. and sometimes you don't want that
[09:26] <kaminix> Oh, I didn't know that. I just knew it removed unwanted stuff.
[09:26] <vzduch> apt-get only installs 'real' dependencies
[09:26] <zibert>  - - ?
[09:26] <vzduch> !ru | zibert
[09:26] <ubotu> zibert:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[09:27] <vbgunz> anyone esle here experience ktorrent constantly crashing?
[09:27] <_Shade_> anyone familiar and using xgl here?
[09:27] <vbgunz> it crashed more in the last 3 days than perhaps every single app in my system combined in the last 2 years :/
[09:28] <kaminix> vzduch: What are recomended packages? What do they do?
[09:28] <vzduch> Lynoure: I know that about ethereal.. but I think there was also something w/ nmap
[09:28] <Lynoure> vzduch: maybe, but nothing I can recall
[09:29] <dragon> buenas
[09:29] <dragon> :)
[09:29] <dragon> soy novato
[09:29] <dragon> no me funciona amarok
[09:29] <vzduch> !es | dragon
[09:29] <ubotu> dragon: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:31] <genii> vzduch: I dunno but svn at insecure.org still has it as nmap
[09:31] <dozpazoz> koffice-doc is a USER manual or developer manual?
[09:31] <mewshi> is there something like netstumbler on linux?
[09:31] <dec> i just installed xfishtank and would like to know how to get it to run
[09:32] <dozpazoz> I made an inquire
[09:33] <hasan> how can i make File::Finds find funtion search for only given directory not recursively
[09:34] <dozpazoz> hello?
[09:34] <dozpazoz> apt-get no longer donwloads :-(
[09:35] <dozpazoz> wtf??!!
[09:35] <lontra> is there a way to make my ipod have a windows format instead of mac osx?
[09:35] <dozpazoz>  am trying tod do download
[09:37] <vzduch> dozpazoz: error msg(s) plz
[09:37] <dozpazoz> ok back on
[09:37] <dozpazoz> connect (101 Network is unreachable)
[09:38] <vzduch> then the mirror is down
[09:39] <dozpazoz> vzduch: so much for Kubuntu!!!
[09:40] <jhutchins> dozpazoz: network unreachable might be something other than the server, but you're reaching IRC, so it's not a loss of networking.
[09:40] <dozpazoz> I wonder how will the state of linux when is widely used among regular users and institutions
[09:40] <jhutchins> dozpazoz: Try a different mirror.
[09:40] <jhutchins> !easysources | dozpazoz
[09:40] <ubotu> dozpazoz: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:40] <dozpazoz> jhutchins: I did, already working
[09:41] <vzduch> so what's the fuss then?
[09:41] <vzduch> there's plenty of mirrors available, no need to tick out because one doesn't work ;)
[09:43] <dozpazoz> why isn't frostwire in the repos
[09:43] <lontra> anyone know what this means?  hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[09:44] <meuhlol> hi all
[09:44] <meuhlol> Mine friend has an problem with flashplugin-nonfree in firefox onto Ubuntu
[09:45] <meuhlol> i know it's kubuntu channel but however
[09:45] <meuhlol> when he listen an mp3 file, or divx, or other music contains file
[09:45] <vzduch> thine English soundeth a bit antiquated ;)
[09:45] <meuhlol> he hear a sound in speakers
[09:45] <meuhlol> when he go to an web-site made with flash and containing music
[09:46] <meuhlol> he dont ear sounds at all
[09:46] <BluesKaj> I'm getting this error "Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) " after upgrading to Gutsy :
[09:46] <meuhlol> how to resolve it pliz?
[09:46] <jhutchins> meuhlol: There's not much you can configure about flash, it either works or it doesn't.
[09:46] <c2c2rock-puptop> ok guys back again via recovery mode i was able to get X working again with a proper res i might add Yet now I cannot login ?! any Ideas ?
[09:46] <meuhlol> jhutchins: so no way?
[09:47] <vzduch> c2c2rock-puptop: define 'cannot login'
[09:47] <c2c2rock-puptop> i have a Boot screen
[09:47] <jhutchins> meuhlol: If you could check what flash was using for audio output, you might be able to fix it, but I'm not sure how you would do that.
[09:47] <c2c2rock-puptop> Kubuntu
[09:47] <c2c2rock-puptop> but not able to login
[09:47] <jhutchins> meuhlol: Try firefox instead of .... whatever that default gnome browser is.
[09:47] <vzduch> define 'not able to login'
[09:47] <meuhlol> it's on firefox lol
[09:48] <BluesKaj> !upgrade
[09:48] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[09:48] <BluesKaj> !gutsy
[09:48] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[09:48] <c2c2rock-puptop> i can login via ttys1 2 3 4 5 etc yet the kubuntu Splash LOGIN will not allow it
[09:48] <jhutchins> c2c2rock-puptop: If you tell us something doesn't happen, it could be just about anything.  If you tell us what _does_ happen, we might be able to help.
[09:48] <vzduch> define 'will not allow it'
[09:49] <c2c2rock-puptop> it accepts the login but bounces back to login
[09:49] <c2c2rock-puptop> i don't know how else to explain
[09:49] <jhutchins> c2c2rock-puptop: Have you looked in the logs?
[09:49] <vzduch> sounds like an X server or desktop hiccup.. try searching for clues in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:49] <lontra> !ipod
[09:49] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[09:50] <jhutchins> vzduch: Like maybe the xauth isn't working, or kdm can't read shadow.
[09:50] <lontra> can i use the mac osx format on my ipod in kubuntu?
[09:50] <c2c2rock-puptop> logs no have no idea where to lOOK i assume everybuddy assumes if your using the system you know everything about it
[09:51] <c2c2rock-puptop> <!!! is basically a Newbie
[09:51] <vzduch> c2c2rock-puptop: not necessarily.. but you should be able to identify an error as such, even if you don't know what to make of it
[09:51] <c2c2rock-puptop> to this support method and kubuntu
[09:51] <jhutchins> c2c2rock-puptop: Well, we're using it, and we don't know everything about it, so that's probably not an accurate statement.
[09:51] <dozpazoz> halp pluz!! I has a prublm!! :'-(
[09:51] <Roey> hi
[09:51] <jhutchins> c2c2rock-puptop: We're just other users waiting for answers to our own questions.
[09:52] <_Shade_> !xgl
[09:52] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:52] <jhutchins> c2c2rock-puptop: Logs are in /var/log/
[09:52] <Roey> can anyone help me figure out why Konqueror won't load http://digg.com?  I try it in Firefox and it loads fine; I try it on my laptop, also running Kubuntu, and it loads fine.  Just here on my workstation it doesn't.  I've looked at /etc/hosts, I've looked at any possible proxy issues (it's connected directly to the net)
[09:52] <dozpazoz> ok what's  a typing program to train a n00b how to type?
[09:52] <dozpazoz> thanks
[09:53] <dozpazoz> Roey: Konqueror is far from the perfect/complete browser
[09:53] <devang> tux typer
[09:53] <c2c2rock-puptop> yeah and with a X login screen in my way alt f1 f2 f3 don't work to login without X i am ssh in to find logs
[09:53] <vzduch> dozpazoz: only one I know is for Windoze in German
[09:53] <jhutchins> c2c2rock-puptop: also in .xsession-errors
[09:53] <Roey> dozpazoz:  right but why doesn't it load digg.com at all--it stalls at "digg.com contacted; waiting for reply...'
[09:53] <dozpazoz> devang: is that QT based?
[09:53] <devang> dozpazoz: don't know
[09:54] <mahdi> manual instructions for installing drivers for this new monitor i just got for linux is basically "reconfigure xserver-xorg and then it will work"
[09:54] <dozpazoz> Roey: is that a recent installation?
[09:54] <dozpazoz> what did you change before trying to get into digg?
[09:54] <Roey> dozpazoz: as of this morning
[09:54] <dozpazoz> devang: are there any other error messages?
[09:54] <Roey> dozpazoz:  installed Flash
[09:54] <dozpazoz> did you update?
[09:54] <dozpazoz> ah...
[09:54] <devang> dozpazoz: what do you mean?
[09:55] <dozpazoz> Roey:  is 64bit?
[09:55] <Roey> no
[09:55] <fnatic\Will> could anybody help me get my MOUSE4 and MOUSE5 buttons work on my mouse, for ubuntu 7.04
[09:55] <Roey> I can't understand why installing Flash would make a difference in hearing back from a site before you even start rendering
[09:55] <dozpazoz> devang: scan for new pluins in Konqueror
[09:56] <c2c2rock-puptop> btw what i am supposed to be doing in these logs
[09:56] <devang> dozpazoz: i don't have it on me and I'm on ubuntu lol
[09:56] <Roey> dozpazoz:  oh, ok:  my adblock.xml wasn't there.
[09:56] <Roey> dozpazoz:  I copied my .kde/ from another system, but forgot to copy adblock.xml.
[09:57] <Roey> *but had forgotten to copy adblock.xml
[09:57] <dozpazoz> Roey: glad you solved it
[09:57] <Roey> =) thanks
[09:57] <vzduch> c2c2rock-puptop: look for anything that looks like an error msg & try to make something of it.. if you can't, pastebin it, perhaps someone else can
[09:57] <dozpazoz> Roey: is adblock useful ?
[09:58] <c2c2rock-puptop> yeh i guess i will just reinstall and stick with 800x600 this is just way to much work
[09:59] <Roey> dozpazoz:  not really; I see ads all the time.
[09:59] <BluesKaj> what's the command for releasing orphaned modules that are locking up my system resolution settings ?
[09:59] <vzduch> *omfg*
[10:00] <BluesKaj> I really don't want to have reconfigure xorg
[10:00] <c2c2rock-puptop> yeah BluesKaj and when i did it Hooped me for X altogether
[10:01] <vzduch> BluesKaj: orphaned modules?
[10:01] <dozpazoz> Roey: you know why? You need to download an aditional blacklist. With the blackslist you can wipe out almost ALL freaking ads. Only filthy google analitycs is really hard to purge. Even Firefox doesn't make it easy to remove google analytics with even adblock installed. Another kewl blocking program you might wanna try is Privoxy
[10:01] <dozpazoz> Privoxy, properly configure can  destroy 100% ads
[10:01] <lemacs> i found scim-anthy conflict with yakuake
[10:02] <c2c2rock-puptop> everytime and every way i was told to try....Hooped X this will be install 7 if i decide to FFFFF
[10:02] <BluesKaj> vzduch, that's the message i get whaen trying to open admin mode in system settings/monitor&display
[10:03] <c2c2rock-puptop> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31581/
[10:04] <vzduch> this guy won't be helped anymore..
[10:04] <peu> evening :)
[10:04] <devang> vzduch: who
[10:05] <vzduch> devang: this c2c2 retard
[10:05] <devang> vzduch: ah okay
[10:05] <andy_> hola
[10:05] <devang> como estas?
[10:06] <andy_> hallo
[10:06] <andy_> hi
[10:06] <devang> hai
[10:06] <dozpazoz> ls
[10:08] <hero> howdy
[10:08] <devang> hai
[10:08] <hero> how's it goin'?
[10:09] <hero> that good, eh?
[10:09] <devang> lol
[10:09] <devang> sorry talking in like 5 windows
[10:09] <devang> so i might be slow to respond
[10:09] <hero> 'sok
[10:09] <devang> heh
[10:10] <peu> compiz with kde works better than it used to :)
[10:12] <Roey> will KDE actually have these kind of effects or will we hav eto rely on compiz for this (say, a year from now)
[10:14] <mahdi> plasma is supposed to offer a lot of the same functionality i believe, when KDE4 comes out, though i may just be wishing
[10:15] <Roey> (honestly.. I'm not really hyped about kde4... to me it's just the next thing down the road)
[10:15] <Roey> I'll tell ya what would hype me up:
[10:15] <Roey> 1.  GRUB support XFS on /
[10:15] <mahdi> i'm hyped, i'm just starting to get into coding and it sounds like it should be a blast
[10:15] <Roey> 2. NX becoming a standard part of Debian- and Ubuntu- repositories
[10:16] <Roey> 3. Eyecandy for KDE without having to resort to compiz
[10:17] <vzduch> Roey: to my knowledge NX is not free software, don't know about its redistribution terms; perhaps it's licensed in a way that prohibits it being packaged
[10:18] <vzduch> Roey: and what's the hype about XFS?
[10:18] <vzduch> I'd rather want to see ext4
[10:18] <vzduch> wb BluesKaj
[10:19] <Roey> vzduch:  I meant freenx
[10:19] <Roey> vzduch:  and about xfs?
[10:19] <Roey> vzduch:  because I use it :P :)
[10:19] <eagles0513875> vzduch: when is ext4 comin out
[10:19] <vzduch> eagles0513875: no idea
[10:20] <Roey> vzduch:  and it's like.. one stupid problem that's lingered for four years now.
[10:20] <eagles0513875> vzduch: have u heard of sun microsystems jfs (java file system)
[10:20] <vzduch> Roey: perhaps XFS just isn't widely enough used
[10:20] <vzduch> eagles0513875: I know it exists, that's about it
[10:20] <eagles0513875> what is xfs anyway
[10:21] <eagles0513875> lol i have an article in a l inux magazine i should read bout it lol from what ive seen skimming the article i think it has to do with java based programming and its to compete with ajax
[10:21] <onechard> XFS is the oldest journaling file system available for UNIX systems
[10:21] <vzduch> I never messed w/ anything other than ext3 as for Linux filesystems.. just for the fact that there'll surely be ppl who know their way w/ it if it makes trouble
[10:22] <eagles0513875> i love ext3
[10:23] <eagles0513875> vzduch: j/w i have a bunch of audio how can i open it up with jack
[10:23] <vzduch> eagles0513875: ?
[10:23] <eagles0513875> vzduch: have u heard of jack
[10:23] <vzduch> what do you mean 'open w/ JACK'?
[10:24] <vzduch> I have JACK installed b/c some programs I have need it
[10:24] <vzduch> if you mean like for audio players, most have JACK output plugins
[10:24] <eagles0513875> i would like to open the audio that i have on this machine like to mix it with jack u know like remix cuz i know jack seems to lock out the audio to any player
[10:25] <vzduch> JACK is just a sound server that distributes audio output.. for remixing you'd need a recording app & a mixer for effects
[10:26] <vzduch> and perhaps a synth and a drum machine
[10:26] <eagles0513875> vzduch: could i bypass the recording app since i have the audio on this machine already
[10:26] <vzduch> a lot of stuff can be done w/ the apps from Ubuntu Studio.. but I'm far from being an expert there
[10:27] <vzduch> eagles0513875: well, you need to store the result somewhere ;)
[10:27] <eagles0513875> true lol what recording app u recommend
[10:28] <kaminix> Anyone know a easy way to make like a big database over all your files across several drives?
[10:28] <eagles0513875> kaminix: have u setup the sql server
[10:29] <eagles0513875> kaminix: that is all i really know how to do is setup the mysql service on here
[10:29] <vzduch> hmm.. what was the name again?  I think it was ardour, it's said to be kind-of the Swiss army knife of Linux sound apps.. but it's said to be quite unstable (compared to apps from other areas of usage), and I can't help you, I never used it myself
[10:29] <kaminix> Nope. Have the sqlite for amarok though.
[10:29] <eagles0513875> vzduch: ok
[10:29] <hasan> hi gusy
[10:29] <eagles0513875> kaminix: if u want to use sql ovr multiple drives u cant use sqlite
[10:30] <hasan> i ve got a muzio player
[10:30] <hasan> i ve plugged it for charging over usb
[10:30] <kaminix> eagles0513875: What should I install then?
[10:30] <vzduch> who's gusy? :D
[10:31] <hasan> but in windows when i charge it i can disconnect it via software
[10:31] <hasan> so that i can listen to music while i charge it
[10:31] <eagles0513875> kaminix: mysql let me link u with a wiki i have
[10:31] <hasan> what do i need to do to do the same thing in kubuntu ?
[10:32] <kaminix> hasan: Disconnect it so that you can listen to music? What?
[10:32] <eagles0513875> vzduch: i have a kool mag that i think we would all love
[10:32] <BluesKaj> hey eagles0513875 ..runing 7.10 right ?
[10:32] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: yep
[10:32] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: x86_64 whats up
[10:34] <hasan> nope i dont plug off cable
[10:34] <hasan> but by clicking usb device found icon
[10:34] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, i upgraded to 7.10 too , booting into a black scrn ...right now using the super grubdisk to bootinto gutsy..can't see anything wrong with my boot/grub file , but the fstab is strange
[10:35] <hasan> there is an option for removing connected usb devices in windows
[10:35] <kaminix> Will Kubuntu+1 have KDE4?
[10:35] <eagles0513875> kaminix: kde 4 not out for a while
[10:35] <vzduch> kaminix: no, it won't, KDE4 won't be final by then
[10:35] <eagles0513875> kaminix: its still in alpha and vry unstable
[10:35] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: lets take this to a one on one chat
[10:36] <hasan> so it goes on charging but ican listen music too while charging
[10:36] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, http://www.pastebin.ca/636351
[10:36] <hasan> Kubuntu 1 ??
[10:36] <kaminix> eagles0513875: It's scheduled for release on October 27th, right? When is Kubuntu+1?
[10:36] <eagles0513875> kaminix: dont know the dateall i know is in october
[10:37] <kaminix> hasan: +1, meaning next version.
[10:37] <lokas> vzduch hi  i am solarwaver remember how u said    that prog with ntfs write
[10:37] <kaminix> Bad timing for a release. Would've been nice if they'd matched better. Will it be possible to upgrade via apt?
[10:38] <genii> Oct 23 is kde4 release date
[10:38] <underdog5004> can't wait for kde4
[10:38] <genii> per http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule
[10:39] <genii> underdog5004: Hiya :)
[10:39] <kaminix> Me neither, I have such high expectations. Anyone know if upgrade will be easy?
[10:39] <lokas> vzduch hi  i am solarwaver remember how u said    that prog with ntfs write
[10:40] <genii> underdog5004: I'm expecting big things from XFCE5
[10:40] <genii> LOL
[10:40] <kaminix> What ver is XFCE?
[10:40] <genii> 4
[10:40] <vzduch> lokas: tell us your concrete problem if you have one :)
[10:41] <kaminix> I never liked XFCE, it keeped on bugging out on me. Menu not appearing and stuff.
[10:41] <genii> kaminix: 4.2 is in the works
[10:41] <vzduch> I remember building XFce 4.0 myself when it first came out
[10:41] <vzduch> for Hoary
[10:42] <eagles0513875> lol
[10:42] <vzduch> back then it had some problems interacting w/ Gnome
[10:45] <underdog5004> genii, why? What's big coming from them?
[10:45] <genii> underdog5004: I just prefer the low-overhead window managers generally
[10:45] <vzduch> genii: isn't 4.2 out already?
[10:46] <genii> vzduch: Possibly, I haven't checked in there for a month or so
[10:46] <underdog5004> genii, gotcah
[10:46] <underdog5004> ermm, gotcha
[10:46] <underdog5004> I've tried xfce, but I prefer kde...xfce for low-end machines is what I do, though
[10:47] <genii> vzduch Ah, it is 4.4.X something now LOL wow it goes fast
[10:47] <vzduch> genii: indeed, just checked myself :)
[10:47] <vzduch> current stable is 4.4.1
[10:47] <lokas> vzduch i pass vkubuntu to a friends computer and i canot write to ntfs disks
[10:48] <vzduch> !ntfs-3g | lokas
[10:48] <ubotu> lokas: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[10:48] <lokas> remember the site that u have give  me to fix that
[10:48] <devang> try using it with FUSE
[10:48] <lokas> thanx man
[10:48] <devang> it works pretty good
[10:48] <vzduch> lokas: print it out for convenience if that helps you ;)
[10:48] <devang> i don't know if FUSE works on kubuntu though..
[10:48] <genii> underdog5004: The new file manager system is way better than on earlier versions. Thunar
[10:49] <elliotc> Hey, what is the command to reconfigure X?  I just installed Kubuntu 7.04 but X isn't working and I forgot the command to reconfigure it
[10:49] <eagles0513875> does anyone know of any audio players that use jack so i can have a jack server running and still listen to my music
[10:50] <elliotc> is it sudo dpkg xserver-reconfigure?  I remember it was soemething like that
[10:50] <vzduch> elliotc: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, if you mean that
[10:50] <elliotc> that was it
[10:50] <elliotc> thanks a lot
[10:51] <vzduch> guys, I'll be out for a breath of fresh air.. have a nice one :)
[10:51] <drewh> greetings...anyone know how the default ca's (/etc/ssl/certs).  There not in any dpkg.
[10:53] <jhutchins> drewh: Could be they get created by a package script.
[10:53] <underdog5004> genii, they're still using thunar, right?
[10:54] <jhutchins> drewh: Let me see if I can find 'em on mine.
[10:54] <dzero> wow
[10:54] <dozpazoz> hi
[10:54] <drewh> jhutchins: yeah dpkg -S was showing no love..if it's a postinst that make since
[10:54] <genii> underdog5004: AFAIK yes. Before Thunar however, you could not easily do such simple things as make shortcuts on the desktop for instance
[10:54] <dzero> hi =)
[10:54] <dozpazoz> why my DELL printer isn't listed under printers?
[10:54] <dozpazoz> what's wrong?
[10:55] <underdog5004> genii, right, right, I remember that. That was one of the deal-breakers, for me.
[10:55] <manu__> i've in mpalyer this scnalines how can i remove them? http://www.imagehoop.com/view_image/2d3a51658/Bildschirmphoto8.png
[10:55] <genii> dozpazoz: I'm tempted to tell you whats wrong is that it's a dell printer
[10:55] <underdog5004> manu__, try using english
[10:55] <jhutchins> drewh: Yeah, must be a script, no pacakge owns /etc/ssl/certs/
[10:55] <kaminix> dozpazoz: Drivers?
[10:55] <dozpazoz> genii: OMG!! only TWO!! 2!! models of DELL listed??!!
[10:56] <dozpazoz> wtf
[10:56] <genii> dozpazoz: Dell just buys printers made by other companies then puts their name on em. you need to discover who really makes it
[10:56] <jhutchins> manu__: That's more likely to be flash than mplayer.
[10:56] <dozpazoz> !printer
[10:56] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[10:56] <underdog5004> manu__, you may want to look at the man page for mplayer.
[10:56] <dozpazoz> !dell
[10:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dell - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:56] <drewh> jhutchins: yep postinst of ca-certificates. thanks.
[10:57] <genii> dozpazoz: What is the exact model name?
[10:57] <dozpazoz> DELL 720
[10:58] <manu__> jhutchins: flash? oO
[10:58] <manu__> underdog5004: i'm writing english (with mistakes) oO
[10:58] <dozpazoz> ok is not listed in hardware page
[10:58] <mOrO^> I downloaded and installed RealPlayer10GOLD.bin... it works fine...BUT... I installed it on my desktop...I now have a Real Player Folder on my desktop. Any suggestions?
[10:58] <dozpazoz> oh wait
[10:59] <jhutchins> dozpazoz: USB?
[10:59] <underdog5004> manu__, then spellcheck your words before hitting enter. It's not a race. People will take you seriously if you use proper spelling, at least
[10:59] <genii> dozpazoz: It'sa a Lexmark
[10:59] <dozpazoz> jhutchins: yeah
[10:59] <dozpazoz> genii: lol I saw it, how weird
[10:59] <manu__> underdog5004: ok :) thx you :)
[10:59] <underdog5004> no problem
[11:00] <genii> dozpazoz: Maybe some useful info here: http://digitalpincushion.wordpress.com/2007/06/23/installing-a-dell-720-usb-printer-in-ubuntu/
[11:00] <_Shade_> anyone know how to set up an xgl in feisty - nvidia legacy drivers
[11:01] <jhutchins> manu__: Yeah, dozpazoz See what lsusb says about it (use sudo).
[11:01] <genii> Woohoo :) My alarm just went off, time to go home
[11:01] <genii> See all you fine ppl Monday :)
[11:01] <jhutchins> dozpazoz: Although genii's excelent find would be better.
[11:01] <jhutchins> genii: Have a nice weekend!
[11:01] <genii> jhutchins: :)
[11:02] <mOrO^> I downloaded and installed RealPlayer10GOLD.bin... it works fine...BUT... I installed it on my desktop...I now have a Real Player Folder on my desktop. Any suggestions?
[11:02] <_Shade_> so... what about the xgl thingy?
[11:02] <manu__>  <jhutchins> manu__: Yeah, dozpazoz See what lsusb says about it (use sudo). ????
[11:03] <jhutchins> manu__: Sorry, you're not the only one with typos today.
[11:04] <jhutchins> !nvidia | _Shade_ That's all I know about it:
[11:04] <ubotu> _Shade_ That's all I know about it:: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:04] <manu__> k
[11:05] <jhutchins> !mp3 | mOrO^ follow the directions in the restricted formats page:
[11:05] <ubotu> mOrO^ follow the directions in the restricted formats page:: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:05] <mOrO^> free formats?
[11:05] <mOrO^> ubotu: OK... I read the url
[11:05] <eagles0513875> mOrO^: ubotu is a bot btw
[11:06] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: Aww, you spoiled the fun!
[11:06] <mOrO^> hehhe
[11:06] <eagles0513875> lol
[11:06] <mOrO^> hehe
[11:06] <hak5fan> I'm on slax a live distro i've put on my pendrive it runs everything from the root account by default. all I want to know is: How can I give the new user b read and write acess to a folder I copied from /root ?
[11:06] <mOrO^> Im going to read that stuff..and see if the bot knows a little something
[11:07] <jussi01> hak5fan: go ask on slax channel, we do kubuntu here ;)
[11:08] <hak5fan> True enough but I believe this to be a generic linux question..... has to do with chmodding or something and the slax channel is empty... allmost
[11:09] <kaminix> Anyone know a program to convert ogg to mp3 easly? Can lame do that?
[11:09] <jhutchins> hak5fan: Either change the group to something that b is a member of, and give group r/w access, or change the world access, or change the ownership to b.
[11:12] <hak5fan> jhutchins: ok thanks... testing it now
[11:20] <jhutchins> kaminix: ogg2mp3
[11:22] <jhutchins> kaminix: Available in perl or python.
[11:22] <kaminix> jhutchins: What repo? I only have mp32ogg in my pelo. :o
[11:22] <jhutchins> oggenc will do it.
[11:23] <kaminix> jhutchins: How will oggenc encode mp3s from ogg? What? I have oggs, I want mp3s.
[11:25] <jhutchins> kaminix: the python script only uses ogginfo and oggenc, so I must conclude that oggenc can transcode.
[11:25] <mOrO^> Can I remove an installed program off of my desktop in the root shell? And what is the terminal command?
[11:25] <lokas> is there anyone knows how to play sus in divx?
[11:25] <jhutchins> ffmpeg also does audio transcoding, as does mplayer.
[11:25] <lokas> is there anyone knows how to play subs in divx?
[11:26] <kaminix> jhutchins: Ok. Where do I find the script?
[11:26] <eagles0513875> later guys
[11:26] <eagles0513875> im out to club it up
[11:26] <jhutchins> mOrO^: something like rm /home/mOrO/Desktop/<file>
[11:26] <jhutchins> http://bitmason.com/project/ogg2mp3/
[11:27] <jhutchins> That's the python one, http://marginalhacks.com/bin/ogg2mp3 is the perl one.
[11:27] <mOrO^> jhutchins: I have a Real Player installed on my desktop...and I want to remove it. Will going into the root shell help me remove it?
[11:27] <jhutchins> mOrO^: You should be able to do it as the normal user, unless you installed it as root.
[11:28] <kaminix> jhutchins: Thanks. :)
[11:28] <mOrO^> jhutchins: Im not sure HOW I installed it. It wont let me delete it...and it wont ask for the password.
[11:28] <jhutchins> mOrO^: Try it as root then.
[11:28] <mOrO^> what do I type in?
[11:29] <mOrO^> sudo dpkg -r package_name
[11:29] <mOrO^> not a package now.. it is a running program
[11:29] <mOrO^> doesnt show up on Synaptic or Add/Remove menus
[11:31] <mOrO^> jhutchins: are you here?
[11:31] <fernando_> q hongo
[11:31] <fernando_> ay alguien
[11:31] <fernando_> por ai
[11:31] <fernando_> soy nuevo en esto
[11:33] <jhutchins> mOrO^: Sorry, real life.
[11:33] <jhutchins> mOrO^: Since you didn't use the package system to install it, the package system doesn't know anything about it.
[11:34] <jhutchins> mOrO^: If you don't know how you installed it, it's a lot harder to be sure you un-install it correctly.
[11:34] <mOrO^> jhutchins: I have the install log
[11:34] <jhutchins> mOrO^: I can't tell you the command, because I don't know the names of the folders, but something like rm -r ~/Desktop/real<tab> should do it.
[11:35] <mOrO^> jhutchins: I ll try it. <tab> is the ENTER key?
[11:36] <jhutchins> mOrO^: Noo, <tab> is the tab key.  It will auto-complete the path.
[11:36] <McBee> hi.. there are some program to use graphviz and valgrind?
[11:36] <jhutchins> McBee: These are windows programs?
[11:37] <McBee> jhutchins._.-> no.. linux program
[11:37] <arrautza> hi
[11:37] <jhutchins> Hm.  Why not just use them?
[11:37] <arrautza> i'm needing some help
[11:37] <McBee> 'cause is too hard..
[11:37] <jhutchins> McBee: http://www.google.com/url?q=http://valgrind.org/docs/manual/manual.html
[11:38] <McBee> jhutchins._.-> thx
[11:38] <jhutchins> Hrm.  Let me clean that up.
[11:38] <jhutchins> http://valgrind.org/docs/manual/manual.html
[11:38] <arrautza> how can i jump from kubuntu drapper drake to a latest version without losing my documents??
[11:38] <jhutchins> arrautza: Back them up.
[11:39] <arrautza> mmmm...buuu.... how can i play with the beryls cube in the dapper distribution??
[11:39] <jhutchins> arrautza: Back them up first, then try upgrading from dapper to edgy, get it fixed, then upgrade to feisty.
[11:40] <jhutchins> arrautza: I'm sure it will fail just as reliably, but I don't think there are packages for dapper.  You could always install from source as long as you're hosing your system anyway.
[11:40] <mOrO^> jhutchins: you is a genius...that sucker is gone..but so is the program...NOW... I must install it correctly
[11:40] <jhutchins> arrautza: Or build your own .deb's, it's not that hard.
[11:41] <jhutchins> mOrO^: Nah, just been plodding along at this for a while.
[11:41] <mOrO^> hosing your system anyway... ROFL
[11:41] <jhutchins> To be fair, I haven't seen beryl do much damage, it mostly just fails.
[11:41] <mOrO^> jhutchins: Is there any an easier way to install this Real Player/
[11:42] <jhutchins> !real
[11:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:42] <jhutchins> Oh, I'm thinking flash...
[11:42] <mOrO^> aaaa
[11:42] <jhutchins> Check that first URL.
[11:42] <mOrO^> ok.. I do need to learn it for myself :)
[11:43] <jhutchins> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods
[11:43] <jhutchins> mOrO^: It's been long enough that I don't remember exactly.
[11:46] <jhutchins> mOrO^: I'm pretty sure there's a canonical repository for Feisty too.
[11:51] <mOrO^> jhutchins: Ok...thanks. Ill check this out.
[11:52] <arrautza> i'm using the comand gksu "update-manager -c" but it tells me that there are not update manager...
[11:56] <jhutchins> arrautza: try apt-get install update-manager
[11:57] <arrautza> hate not to know...
[11:58] <jhutchins> arrautza: Did that work?
[11:58] <arrautza> it look like
[11:59] <arrautza> yes thk
[11:59] <jhutchins> arrautza: Do make copies of your important stuff before you get too far into the upgrade though.
[12:00] <utnubuk> has anybody resolved a problem where openoffice fails to open off of a fresh tribe 3 install??
[12:01] <arrautza> ok... i've just finish the semester.. so beside music & pictures, don't have grates files...thk anyway
[12:03] <Biovore> utnubuk: keep checking for updates for it.. They will fix it eventualy..
[12:04] <utnubuk> ok ty
[12:07] <javv> hi
[12:07] <javv> I need help
[12:07] <Biovore> !ask
[12:07] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:08] <javv> then, when login in kdm retorn to kdm
[12:08] <kaj> fixme:msg:pack_message msg 14
[12:08] <kaj> anyone know what that is
[12:08] <kaj> ??????
[12:08] <Biovore> wine?
[12:08] <kaj> ya
[12:09] <Biovore> its wine.. its emulating windows..  Thus you get weirdness...
[12:09] <kaj> fixme:wave:ALSA_AddCaptureDevice Add support for DSCapture
[12:09] <javv> the log in /var/log/Xorg.2.log say> FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.
[12:09] <kaj> what about that one
[12:10] <kaj> ohh
[12:10] <kaj> cool
[12:10] <Biovore> direct sound capture not implemented yet maybe...
[12:10] <kaj> hhmmm
[12:10] <kaj> can i do something about it
[12:10] <Biovore> nope
[12:10] <kaj> shitty
[12:10] <kaj> ty
[12:11] <Biovore> javv: your question isn't very clear.. Its like you first line didn't make it to the server..
[12:11] <javv> the last line from in startx is> errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server
[12:12] <Biovore> javv: sp whats the actualy problem?
[12:12] <javv> Biovore: when login in kdm retorn to kdm
[12:12] <Biovore> retorn?
[12:13] <Biovore> kdm not starting?
[12:13] <javv> return
[12:13] <javv> kde no starting
[12:13] <Biovore> oh.. what you log in using kdm you get kicked back to kdm?