=== scotty [n=scotty@70-41-130-124.cust.wildblue.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:30] scotth: get the latest updates that seemed to have fixed the issue here (same as yours) === jdt [n=jdt@58.172.9.77] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:32] has anyone experienced an issue with OpenOffice on Kubuntu+1 where it simply does not load? [12:33] jdt: Hobbsee is an expert of this :) [12:34] jdt: some people are experiencing it, some are not [12:34] maybe depends on kubuntu vs. ubuntu as well [12:34] asisak: sweet, hopefully he is online.. Ooo worked fine for me originally, but after updating at some point about 2 days ago it broke... [12:35] jdt: *she* is not online ATM [12:36] asisak: Thats probably fortunate given my last statement :).. Do you have any pointers on where to look to fix? [12:36] Sorry, I don't really understand what happens. Seems to be GTK-related. [12:36] But neither me nor others seem to have time to investigate it so far... [12:37] ok, thanks [12:37] jdt: np [12:37] Im sure a fix will roll through at some point. [12:37] asisak: thankyou === RAOF [n=chris@123-243-65-41.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === asisak [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jtt [n=jtholmes@adsl-065-006-144-253.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === databuddy [n=pie@unaffiliated/databuddy] has joined #ubuntu+1 === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:35] !gutsy64 [01:35] Sorry, I don't know anything about gutsy64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [01:35] !gutsy [01:35] Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1 [01:36] masterloki: What are you after? [01:37] RAOF, 64bit gutsy installer found it [01:37] amd64 is only 64bit installer correct? [01:38] btw RAOF how broken is gutsy64bit vs 32bit ? [01:38] <3 axel [01:39] Um, I'm not really sure what you're asking. If you want a 64bit install (on an amd64 or appropriate intel chip), then that's the installer for you. [01:39] Broken? Exactly as broken. [01:39] perfect [01:39] ive found the 32bit to be quite functional :D [01:39] I would think that any 64bit specific issues would be pretty low level [01:40] The 64bit build has never really been significantly more or less broken, at least for the past couple of releases. [01:40] awesome - still doing the firefox-32 package? [01:40] or something like? to get flash etc working correctly without wine? [01:40] Pici: Actually, there are some issues that only appear in i386, not amd64 ;) [01:40] masterloki: You can install gnash [01:41] gnash? @_@ [01:41] standalone only or embeded too? === masterloki makes note [01:41] The GNU free flash player. Both. [01:43] !gnash | masterloki [01:43] masterloki: An open source flash replacement. It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ === compwiz18 [n=adam18@metarb3-pool1-182.mtco.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:45] ty Pici [01:46] oo very promissing [01:49] masterloki: Current status in gutsy includes youtube :)( [01:50] RAOF, purrrfect :> === masterloki rubs hands together [01:50] ram test went well [01:51] tested 5 full rounds at full speed correct timings dual channel in 3 hrs [2 1gig sticks] [01:51] hehe this is gonna be fun [01:51] unfortunately i had to move hdd's to controller card. [01:51] if only that always worked :( [01:52] I can run my ram at a full ddr2-800 at like 3-3-3-6 for 16 hours in memtest86 [01:52] and i cant seem to get em to boot - even with changing fstab stuff so gonna reinstall gutsy and hope that fixes things [with a little creative fstab editing on the other installs] [01:52] knix, nice [01:52] But the box will reboot in liek 10 seconds once you load up an OS :F [01:52] wth? [01:52] what chipset? [01:52] 965p === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> kubrick.freenode.net === Trewas [n=ilonen@raato.lut.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:52] 946gz here [01:53] but im running at ddr2 667 5-5-5-15 [01:53] what cpu? [01:53] which is max rated on board - went to kingston site and found a 1gig stick that was rated for this mobo and then grabbed a paired kit with two of em in it [01:54] d946gzis mobo / pentium e2160 [dual 1.8Ghz] / 2gigs kingston paired [01:54] kept hdd's and opticals [01:54] nice [01:54] yeah once i get gutsy going i'll probably try a gentoo install on one of the partitions [01:54] or mebbie a lfs [01:54] haha [01:55] but not till i get sensors in and running and put load on sucker watching temps [01:55] i'd rather not push too hard till im sure that itl take it in this case with this cpu fan [01:55] etc === masterloki watches smoke rise4 [01:55] ;_; [01:55] I'm, sure you're fine [01:55] I have an E6420 [01:56] And I can OC it from stock 2.13 to 3.2 by simply uping the bus to full 400mhz [01:56] stock voltage and everything [01:56] does have the intel exaust in it so thats good - moved a 90mm over from one of my old cases, and have 2 spare 80mm's to toss in tho it can only use one... tho im considering screwing to outside of the case over the intel output thingier [01:56] Never seen it above 40C [01:56] nice [01:56] very nice actually [01:56] ;) [01:56] It can go a lot higher [01:56] ok burn done bb in like 30 [01:57] I just don't want to oc my ram [01:57] or buy more expensive sticks :P [01:57] yeah [01:57] yeah [01:57] 102 delivered for mine - not bad [01:57] i wanted to get single 2gig stick and then get another later but meh [01:57] I got 4x1g [01:57] if im investing that much in the system i'll build me a quad later - like next year [01:57] nice [01:57] ok bbiaw ^^ [01:57] bye === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:05] ok i lied im back :> [02:06] ooo extra desktop effects via cd works great ;) [02:07] lets see if it hangs on manual partitioning === vlowther [n=vlowther@adsl-75-55-115-198.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:09] oo awesome works here ;) === PWill [n=paul@unaffiliated/pwill] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:18] well [02:19] ~15 min to install - impressive ;) === pimp31415 goes to boot into 64bit gutsy [02:22] w94erfhq234987hr [02:22] ok knix or anyone [02:22] got the d946gzis mobo by intel and i got a ide controller card in there - and its not being picked up to boot from! === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-50-136.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === limetang [n=ircwhore@80-45-90-17.static.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === limetang [n=ircwhore@80-45-90-17.static.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === lasse_ [n=lasse@90.163.18.192] has joined #ubuntu+1 === borg_ [n=olaf@80.149.17.21] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Tomcat_ [n=Tomcat@p54A1FBDF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mat|work [n=mat@igoan/mat] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Solarion [n=solarion@cruftix.physics.uiowa.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === NigelS [i=nigel@xdev.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === BFrank [n=addos@dog.lost-habit.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === SWAT [n=SWAT@ubuntu/member/swat] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Tm_T [i=tm_travo@kde/developer/jkekkonen] has joined #ubuntu+1 === variant [n=mrintegr@unaffiliated/variant] has joined #ubuntu+1 === AndrewB [n=andy@freenode/helper/ubuntu.member.AndrewB] has joined #ubuntu+1 === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-67-143.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === lamalex [n=alex@c-71-225-106-125.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DreamThief [n=mathias@unaffiliated/dreamthief] has joined #ubuntu+1 === guerby [n=guerby@gut75-4-82-235-162-148.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rjek [n=rjek@spoo.flarn.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === arpu [n=arpu@p54BFE13C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === limetang [n=ircwhore@80-45-90-17.static.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> kubrick.freenode.net === Trewas [n=ilonen@raato.lut.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Vorbote [n=harbinge@unaffiliated/vorbote] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.72.177] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ulysses_ [n=ulysses@189.25.19.106] has joined #ubuntu+1 === wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-34-4-97.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:46] does anybody know why easytag has no more mp3 support on gutsy? [02:47] and flac neither.. [02:48] ok, just read on launchpad... [02:49] 127345. === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-50-136.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === AnRkey [n=AnRkey@87-194-62-131.bethere.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === snadge [n=snadge@66.232.109.17] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:09] ok [03:09] im having super hard time getting the bios to detect hdd's on controller card. [03:09] please any ideas?? [03:11] is compiz fusion in gutsy at the moment? [03:11] snadge: yes. [03:12] im tempted to try the tribe 3 install .. but im put off by the dpkg and dependencies warning in the topic [03:12] i have a bit of experience with that [03:12] im wondering if i can at least get a semi workable system out of it with compiz [03:13] or if i should just be patient [03:14] its mostly not bad [03:14] if you have an extra parition that is [03:15] i want to actually help though.. imo desktop effects regressed between edgy and feisty (mostly ati's fault.. but also beryl package is broken) [03:15] beryl is obsolete. [03:16] yes i realise this now.. but what im _hoping_ is that gutsy will have a good go of being able to do the effects with compiz fusion [03:16] Hmm, one issue I one ran into: [03:16] no matter if you have nvidia or ati.. and in the case of ati, if you're using fglrx or radeon [03:17] A system would stall at the BIOS drive-detect screen for roughly 30 seconds, and once I tried booting the livecd, it died with some unexpected status on one IDE port. [03:17] It turned out that the single drive was set to Master With Slave, not Master (Single Drive). [03:17] If it's an IDE drive, that may be good to check; otherwise, it won't apply, of course. [03:18] that's more appropriately a bios issue. [03:18] it's very difficult if not highly improbable to work around every one of those. [03:18] sure, you could munge it into libata, but that would be insane. [03:20] is anyone using compiz with fglrx and xgl? is the xgl obsoleted? i have had trouble finding this out .. esp before i try gutsy [03:20] it'd be REALLY nice if ati added the composite extension to their driver.. they have been paying lip service to this for ages :/ === wfarr_ [n=wfarr@adsl-224-111-233.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === kjm [n=kjmacken@CPE00134648f6ff-CM00159a6420e4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === matysek [n=matysek@96.Red-88-14-185.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === matysek [n=matysek@96.Red-88-14-185.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Agrajag` [n=Agrajag@c-67-163-214-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 === kjm [n=kjmacken@CPE00134648f6ff-CM00159a6420e4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [03:31] Oh yeah, the one thing that might possibly make sense: If you find a master and stall on finding a slave, with the same sort of return value, print a message like "Can't find slave; Perhaps check jumper settings?". Would that be reasonable? [03:32] you're changing driver semantics; that could be highly problematic. === ajmorris_ [i=bupjol@static-ip-85-25-147-217.inaddr.intergenia.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:36] not that its relevant.. but does the same machine boot into windows? [03:37] or anything else? if it doesnt.. its not really reasonable to expect ubuntu to === matysek [n=matysek@96.Red-88-14-185.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:37] if the answer is yes.. then i agree, it should print a warning and continue booting at least === matysek [n=matysek@96.Red-88-14-185.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:39] Or print a warning and still fail. === matysek [n=matysek@96.Red-88-14-185.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:39] The thing was, it just stopped there, with no indication other than "Unexpected status on channel". === matysek [n=matysek@96.Red-88-14-185.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 === matysek [n=matysek@96.Red-88-14-185.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.72.177] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ajmorris_ [i=rlgrwqu@static-ip-85-25-147-217.inaddr.intergenia.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === stdin [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #ubuntu+1 === wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-224-111-233.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === defcon [n=defcon@71-36-166-106.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma- [n=e17@210-84-16-225.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === fiveiron [n=fiveiron@74-137-145-70.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === linxeh [n=linx@88-96-202-38.dsl.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Stormx2 [n=Stormx2@host-87-240-137-127.hi-velocity.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === kingrayray [n=kingrayr@pool-71-112-146-243.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma- [n=e17@210-84-16-225.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === kingrayray [n=kingrayr@pool-71-112-146-243.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === makuseru [n=max@163.106.40.24.aeneasdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jmg [n=cartel@219.88.251.61] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:06] my compiz went away :( === starz [n=starz@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:07] how do i reenable it? === starz [n=starz@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 === linxeh [n=linx@88-96-202-38.dsl.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === CarlF1 [n=carl@adsl-75-57-174-245.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:16] :/ [05:18] :( [05:20] Alt F2 ---> 'compiz --replace' [05:21] !info jack [05:21] jack: Rip and encode CDs with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.1+cvs20050801-14 (gutsy), package size 142 kB, installed size 656 kB [05:21] !info jackd [05:21] jackd: JACK Audio Connection Kit (server and example clients). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.103.0-6 (gutsy), package size 92 kB, installed size 360 kB [05:24] !info libasound2-plugins [05:24] libasound2-plugins: ALSA library additional plugins. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.14-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 101 kB, installed size 432 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 alpha amd64 arm armeb armel hppa m32r m68k mips mipsel powerpc ppc64 s390 s390x sh3 sh3eb sh4 sh4eb sparc) === fiveiron [n=fiveiron@74-137-145-70.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:36] grah! i blame intell on crappy chipset [05:37] then i blame me for buying cheeeeeeeap parts [05:37] anyone know of a good way to install grub to usb stick? === TheGoodShepherd [n=lollersk@c-24-14-254-177.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 === fiveiron [n=fiveiron@74.137.145.70] has joined #ubuntu+1 === False_Courage [n=lollersk@c-24-14-254-177.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-50-136.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:02] starz: I just point grub-install at the device and it does its thing [06:02] last I checked many moons ago === Zelut [n=christer@ubuntu/member/zelut] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:05] can anyone tell me if wireless will work with gutsy on a macbook, whether via madwifi or ndiswrapper? === Tomcat_` [n=Tomcat@p54A1C77E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@adsl-67-64-106-203.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:08] Zelut: http://madwifi.org/ticket/1001#comment:179 [06:08] may be in gutsy, not sure, don't have a macbook... [06:08] I currently use ndiswrapper as the last I tried with madwifi encryption wasn't supported. [06:09] I'd just like to see if either will work. I'd like to run/test gutsy, but if wireless will be b0rken thats a bit of a show stopper [06:09] that ticket seems to suggest that its fixed and does wpa [06:09] it says svn:trunk though.. but it was also back in may [06:10] Zelut: live cd? [06:10] Zelut: probably not fixed [06:11] jmg: unfortunately the cd drive is in need of repair. [06:11] its tagged as 0.9.4 and gutsy only has 0.9.3 [06:11] jmg: once I get back from OSCON I'm bringing it in, I'm just impatient :) [06:14] Zelut: no bugs about it in launchpad, you may want to bug it to make sure gutsy ships with 0.9.4 [06:14] sounds like someone needs to take the plunge and get all the macbook bugs ironed before release. [06:15] I guess that gets to be me [06:15] congrats === Zelut sets off to sed -i "s/feisty/gutsy" /etc/apt/sources.list [06:15] hopefully I will soon be enjoying the fruits of your labor [06:17] here goes. gksudo update-manager -c -d a smart way, or good 'ol aptitude upgrade/dist-upgrade? === akrus [n=akrus@62.140.224.26] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:19] I would assume update-manager would do the best... [06:19] ok [06:19] Ive been with gutsy since day 1 though... so I haven't tested update manager [06:20] scotth: day 1? [06:20] scotth: that's...insane === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF1309.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:20] Hobbsee: I'm never comfortable unless something on my system is a little broken [06:21] scotth: no, but while the toolchain is still being built is... [06:22] Hobbsee: I don't remember it being bad... [06:22] Hobbsee: Ive done it on every release since breezy [06:22] Hobbsee: I do have a backup system that I use when things get bad.. in fact breezy was the worst time that I had [06:23] still crazy :) [06:23] i mena, there's nothing to do [06:23] yes... I am === Hobbsee upgraded while in sevilla - that's the earliest she has [06:26] ok compiz fuzion [06:26] tell me moar [06:26] how do i control all the effects? [06:28] starz: compizconfig-settings-manager [06:29] I highly recommend the desktop wall over the desktop cube === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 === MacSlow_ [n=mirco@dslb-084-063-104-112.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === snax [n=snax@c-67-183-115-232.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma- [n=e17@210-84-16-225.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === varka_ [n=varkatop@p54A5F635.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 === RAOF [n=chris@123-243-65-41.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === _eMaX_ [n=emax@60-121.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu+1 === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 === eMaX [n=emax@90-116.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu+1 === BaD_CrC [n=ns@c-71-231-214-232.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:57] i'm having some issuesI was driected here by a friend and I need some help [08:01] you have to as the question before anyone can answer it [08:02] ok [08:05] I'm running gusty and I ran the lastest update this morning is anyone else having problems === izm99 [n=steve@S01060013461e8223.vn.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:05] masterloki: all that we've learned so far is that you're awful at actually asking useful questions, and getting across what you need. [08:06] well gutsy isn't classed as "stable" yet, I'm sure there are a few people having "problems" === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:06] masterloki: all that we've learned so far is that you're awful at actually asking useful questions, and getting across what you need. [08:06] stdin: indeed. and with my magic wand, i fix them all.... [08:06] without having a clue what they are. [08:07] wow, I want a magic want that can do that :p [08:07] ebay? ;) [08:07] yes I know it is hard for me to expian thing [08:07] I will try [08:07] ok [08:08] stdin: good luck :P [08:09] I really don't know what I did to my I reconfigered my xorg and now can't get anything to work on my desktop [08:10] like I can't run off compix [08:10] you have nvidia/ati? [08:10] ati [08:11] my friend is going to take mr to get a new card satruday [08:11] do you have the binary driver too? [08:11] nvidia [08:12] no I've not grab it from them [08:12] masterloki: who's "them" ? [08:12] I have the Ati 9200 vid card [08:13] them :) {ati} [08:13] you don't download the driver from ati, you use the packages in ubuntu [08:14] do you mean the figlrx [08:14] yes [08:14] You also don't use the fglrx driver at all, it's crap and you don't need to. [08:14] in my xorg I 'm use the Ati driver [08:15] masterloki: you say it stopped working _after_ you reconfigured your xorg? [08:16] yes [08:17] i hope you made a backup.. [08:17] masterloki: when you do that there is always a backup made in /etc/X11/ , it'll be called something like xorg.conf.20070726213259 (the number has the date and time in it) [08:18] I had dusl going but with the card I have beryl and compix would not work well on my 2nd monitor [08:18] I made the backup it was for duals [08:18] yes you're limited to 2048x2048, it's a hardware limitation [08:19] I see [08:20] so i should reinstall the xorg file back [08:21] yes, restore the backup [08:21] ok [08:23] aslo my friend said than beryl is pretty much broken in gusty [08:24] masterloki: That's because beryl is dead, and Compiz fusion (the beryl plugins ported to compiz) is installed & enabled by default in Gutsy [08:28] dose that mean I don't have to use the beryl manager [08:31] Indeed it does. [08:32] you use compiz now, you'll need to remove beryl first [08:32] Well, no. [08:32] Not actually. [08:32] raof masterlokis roomie here lets see if we can unzoom this thing lol [08:32] ok just needed to check the compiz.real crash report to unlock this time turning extra effects off === _4strO [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-44-97.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sen3 [n=sen@107.162-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-29-119.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:02] hey thanks for the help it worked [09:03] Great === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.142.50.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:05] however my roomate had to help out as well [09:06] I am a little new to linux ubuntu [09:06] just need to learn more about it [09:07] and I have to learn it === starz [n=starz@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 === [miles] [n=miles@bcn1.entorno.es] has joined #ubuntu+1 === databuddy [n=starz@unaffiliated/databuddy] has joined #ubuntu+1 === joerlend [n=joerlend@123-191.dsl.freewave.no] has joined #Ubuntu+1 === Kill_X [n=kill_x@p5B167C72.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-101.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:45] Hmm, lately flash videos have been pausing when the tab in Firefox is not focused, or when I've scrolled beyond the flash banner. [09:45] Is that a bug, or a feature? I currently think it can be interpreted as the latter. === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === timfrost [n=timfrost@125-238-36-119.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu+1 === CodeImp [n=dont@s55910c2b.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ke- [n=kenneth@port272.ds1-aboes.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 === theoros` [n=theoros@unaffiliated/theoros] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Masterkong [n=kong@80.251.192.5] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:20] hiya [10:20] just did an aptiutude upgrade and now gnome wont start [10:21] how about that? [10:21] hello? [10:22] R you all asleap? [10:22] Masterkong: patience, this channel is usually dead for a couple of hours yet.. === compengi [n=compengi@85.112.69.77] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:22] there are a few of us awake... [10:23] Masterkong: have you tried startx? [10:24] hmm.. did that now [10:24] interesting === zaggy-nl [n=zaggy-nl@dsl-083-247-110-137.solcon.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tretle_ [n=tretle@78.16.84.193] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:25] fatal server error: caught signal 11. server aborting [10:25] Masterkong: ok, so its dieing... [10:25] hmm [10:25] strange.. cause gdm boot sup [10:26] Im sorry, I have no idea how to fix that [10:26] maybe i should just try to reconfig x [10:28] Masterkong: true. give it a go [10:28] that did it [10:28] strange [10:28] Back up xorg.conf first. [10:28] too late danag [10:29] already reconfigured and working :) === zaggy-nl [n=zaggy-nl@dsl-083-247-110-137.solcon.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:29] i'll be back in a jiffy.. just need to quit this wretched weechat and go back xchat === MRiGnS [n=mrigns@unaffiliated/mrigns] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Masterkong [n=kong@80.251.192.5] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:38] framebuffer mode seem totally screwed nowadays [10:39] i tried, while i did my console exploring, that framebuffer vesamodes didnt work at all [10:40] hmm i actually chosed nv when i reconfigged [10:40] that was wrong === Ramunas [n=Ramunas@78-62-6-183.ip.zebra.lt] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:44] hello, I have a question about Gutsy [10:44] what download managers for x do you recommend? [10:44] will there finally be a way to add new screen resolutions via GUI? [10:44] or should i just use wget? 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[03:49] i8kfan sets them for about 30 seconds before something else resets them. [03:51] SeveredCross: ? i dont get ur question [03:51] I have a laptop. [03:51] And it has 2 fans. [03:51] It's a Dell Inspiron E1705. [03:51] The i8kfan utility works, and it sets the fans to the speed I want for all of 5 seconds, sometimes as long as 30 seconds, [03:51] After that, they immediately change to some other speed. [03:52] ur on gutsy right [03:52] Yep. [03:52] do u have a cooling pad just to subsidies that utility [03:52] Err....No? [03:53] i would get one of thsoe and also i would submit a bug report [03:53] I just want the fans to run on full speed, since my laptop runs a whole lot hotter on Linux. [03:53] thats weird [03:53] ~50C right now. [03:53] It is hella strange. [03:53] im 41c but i have a cooling pad [03:53] what kinda processor u got [03:54] Core Duo [03:54] 2 Ghz. [03:54] Generally sits at 1 Ghz though, hardly ever goes to 2. [03:54] im not sure how hot those can get before u have problems [03:54] 80C or so. [03:54] is ur monitor an lcd bright screen monitor [03:54] Yep. [03:55] there is the heat issue right there [03:55] my monitor generates alot of heat that actually is the core of the heat for my machine [03:55] Yeah but it ran fine under Windows. [03:55] Colder anyway. [03:55] i have a cooling pad though [03:55] that helps keep it cooler [03:56] also u dont have to worry about clearence issues between the bottom of ur machine and the surface its on [03:57] SeveredCross: i would honestly report that as a bug [03:57] is ur core due 64bit capable [03:58] Nope. [03:58] It's one of the first Core Duo's, Yonah class. [03:58] i thought all the newer processors were both 32 and 64 bit [04:00] im going to download that program ur using and seeing if i get the same issue and then ill link u to the bug that ive submitted or uve submitted and ill confirm it in the 64 bit version which means there is a bug for both versions === dendrobates [n=rclark@adsl-065-005-186-012.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:01] SeveredCross: have u tried to compile that program from source === Trewas [n=ilonen@raato.lut.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:01] i8kfan? [04:01] There's no use, I don't think it's being developed anymore. === mrigns [n=mrigns@unaffiliated/mrigns] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:02] SeveredCross: it worth trying compiling from source cuz it might be just a bug in the already compiled pkg [04:06] SeveredCross: is that the name of th epkg [04:06] i8kutils is the package in Ubuntu. [04:06] Sorry, reading up ons ome stuff. [04:07] ahhh ok ty [04:07] is it different in kubuntu [04:07] Nope, shouldn't be. [04:07] i cant find it using cli [04:07] bojanr@sirius:/proc/acpi$ aptitude search i8k [04:07] p gkrellm-i8k - Dell Inspiron and Latitude module for GKre [04:07] id i8kutils - utilities for Dell Inspiron and Latitude l [04:07] bojanr@sirius:/proc/acpi$ [04:08] SeveredCross: ur using ubuntu im guessing [04:09] Yep. [04:09] that could be the issue right there im on kubuntu [04:09] do you need i8kutils at all? [04:09] Shouldn't matter, package names won't be different. [04:10] sarah@LongPointyStick:~$ policy i8kutils [04:10] i8kutils: [04:10] Installed: (none) [04:10] Candidate: 1.27 [04:10] Hobbsee: hey Hobbsee severed was having a bug with it all i wanted to do was confirm and since im on a laptop too it would be handy to have [04:10] dell 6400, works fine here. [04:10] i have a compaq pesario r4012us lol if that makes any difference [04:11] eagles0513875: it's not a dell, and if you look at the aptitude serach output there, you'll notice it only refers to dell laptops. [04:11] oh [04:11] hence the question is to SeveredCross [04:11] oh [04:11] Hobbsee: is their anything like that for any kinda laptop [04:12] shouldnt need to be [04:12] Actually, I don't know if I do really need i8kutils. [04:12] It's just funny how hot the damn thing gets. [04:12] it's not even in main, so not installed by default [04:12] I know the fans could spin up a lot harder under Windows, so I'm curious. [04:12] SeveredCross: if u get a cooling pad you will be fine [04:12] SeveredCross: i'd try purging it, and rebooting. i think there were reports on screwing up the system. [04:12] i8kutils? [04:12] SeveredCross: there was certainly some talk on it [04:12] yes [04:12] Will do. [04:13] Only thing is I lose controol of the fans. Oh well. [04:13] I didn't really have any anyway. [04:13] SeveredCross: that's what i'm thinking === Hobbsee prefers her fans to just work anyway [04:14] Mine work, but I feel like they're not strong enough...My PC gets up to 60C without even touching 2 GHz. [04:14] Bleh. === dendrobates [n=rclark@adsl-065-005-186-012.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [04:14] SeveredCross: i would first try a cooling pad and see what that does i bet it would easily bring back down to 50 or so [04:14] Hobbsee: im really in a mood for debugging i dont know why [04:15] The load's a bit high, because I'm running a fairly intensive Wine program. [04:15] Theres a similar issue with the acpi-thinkpad/ibm module. [04:15] Sadly one that has no comparable native replacement. [04:15] SeveredCross: what is it if u dont mind me asking [04:15] The only thing that's comparable is heavily broken and development is all but progressing. [04:15] eMule [04:15] eagles0513875: i'd suggest actually trying the one that he can implemetn now first, rather than going out and buying a cooling pad, which may not fix the problem [04:15] aMule is comparable, but is really pretty broken [04:15] And far behind. [04:16] SeveredCross: have u tried torrenting [04:16] Yes, and a lot of stuff I want is not even on any torrent sites. === Toma- [n=e17@210-84-16-225.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.65.126] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Happu [n=Happu@166-82.adsl.lpoy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:16] Hobbsee: true but it could be a clearence issue too [04:16] So torrents don't work for me. [04:16] amule is worthless [04:16] eagles0513875: it could, but most of the time it's fine. it's more likely to be the i8... stuff. [04:16] It's not a clearance issue, I prop the bloody thing up on something if I'm not near my little stand thing. === pej [i=pej@kebab-usergroup.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:17] then im agreeing wiht Hobbsee on this one its probly the i8 stuff [04:17] It may well be. [04:17] I'll reboot once my downloads slow down, they're flying high right now. [04:17] how do i change the amount of workspaces in gutsy? [04:18] pej: open up system settings and open the desktop setting [04:18] eagles0513875: likely ubuntu [04:18] eagles0513875: if it was kubuntu, he wouldnt have to ask - he'd be able to find it [04:18]