=== omeow [n=omega@co63471-a.olden1.ov.home.nl] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === cjwatson_ [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-210-186.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mthaddon [n=mthaddon@canonical/launchpad/mthaddon] has joined #ubuntu-devel === munckfish [n=munckfis@82-41-13-152.cable.ubr02.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:31] bryce: I added a patch to bug #128791. Can you test it out if it helps you further? [12:31] Launchpad bug 128791 in displayconfig-gtk "FTBFS ImportError: No module named distutils_extra" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128791 [12:31] geser: cool will do === didymo [n=ashley@CPE-61-9-197-223.static.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:37] patch applied ok; building now [12:41] cool [12:41] I had to `touch Changelog`, but then it built [12:47] ion_: I wonder if this is similar to your issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/126425 [12:47] Launchpad bug 126425 in xorg-server "[Fixed] Intel driver (using EXA) crashes system when starting compiz" [Undecided,New] === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-095-221.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === MagicFab [n=magicfab@ubuntu/member/magicfab] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Exit,] === sid [n=unstable@tor/regular/sid] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === dr_fate [n=anubis@220.152.119.70.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === arquebus [n=sf@201.192.65.126] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cassidy__ [n=cassidy@64.141-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pedro_ [n=pedro@pc-65-202-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-devel === crdlb [n=crdlb@unaffiliated/crdlb] has joined #ubuntu-devel === crdlb [n=crdlb@unaffiliated/crdlb] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === tkamppeter_ [n=till@bl8-116-64.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === arquebus [n=sf@201.192.65.126] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [02:04] iwj: I've been informed that xephyr cannot do accelerated glx but was told to check out glxproxy instead http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=xorg/xserver.git;a=tree;f=hw/dmx/glxProxy === jetscreamer [n=jetscrea@unaffiliated/jetscreamer] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jetscreamer [n=jetscrea@unaffiliated/jetscreamer] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:22] capiira: dash is the default shell used for scripts (which use #!/bin/sh or #!/bin/dash), bash is the default shell for users === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:23] thank you :) === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fnordus [n=dnall@24.84.160.227] has joined #ubuntu-devel === beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Monk-e [n=guido@cust-03-55bf3757.adsl.scarlet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Jedusor [n=Jedusor@41.208.136.215] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pedro_ [n=pedro@pc-65-202-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === micahcowan [n=micah@ubuntu/member/micahcowan] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jtt [n=jtholmes@adsl-065-006-144-253.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tkamppeter_ [n=till@bl8-118-183.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === monteiro [n=monteiro@84.90.118.173] has joined #ubuntu-devel === monteiro [n=monteiro@84.90.118.173] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === luisbg [n=luisbg@157.Red-88-23-103.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === silver6 [n=jg@bas2-ottawa10-1279281693.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === xtknight [n=xtknight@c-68-43-120-159.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === johanbr [n=j@blk-224-156-151.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hunger_t [n=tobias@p54A71236.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === vlowther [n=vlowther@adsl-75-55-115-198.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Jedusor [n=Jedusor@41.208.136.215] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Roundy [n=Roundy_T@c-71-195-222-165.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:25] this might be the wrong place to ask === BaD_CrC [n=ns@c-71-231-214-232.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === voidmage [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === voidmage [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === archaios7 [n=kubuntu@c-67-183-135-207.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:57] Evening everyone; if I wanted to help out on some developing for Kubuntu/KDE would I be better served by learning Ruby instead of Python? I've already started Python because it's recommended for Ubuntu, but I hear Ruby is better supported for QT4? [06:00] archaios7: Python is very much preferred round here. [06:00] Just abot all tools/utils written for Ubuntu have been written in Python. [06:00] Even Kubuntu? [06:00] Yes. [06:00] Swell. [06:00] Good to hear then; cause I'd rather not start over with another language at this point. [06:01] Yet, that is. === archaios7 [n=kubuntu@c-67-183-135-207.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === j_ack_ [n=j_ack@p508DAAD1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jgoss [n=josh@24.115.218.54.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gouki [n=gouki@ubuntu/member/gouki] has joined #ubuntu-devel === KyleCardoza [n=kylecard@bas2-sudbury98-1177592906.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === KyleCardoza [n=kylecard@bas2-sudbury98-1177592906.dsl.bell.ca] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === cjwatson [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jetscreamer [n=jetscrea@unaffiliated/jetscreamer] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _Apex is now known as Apex === Gman [n=gman@63.172.10.149] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-devel === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.6.223.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.110.244] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mario_ [n=mario@128-14.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dpm [n=dpm@p54A13F3E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stdin [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #ubuntu-devel === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has joined #ubuntu-devel === archis [n=archis@unaffiliated/archis] has joined #ubuntu-devel === archis [n=archis@unaffiliated/archis] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] === Gman [n=gman@63.172.10.149] has joined #ubuntu-devel === RoundyT1 [n=Roundy_T@c-71-195-222-165.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mario_ is now known as pygi === IntuitiveNipple [n=TJ@alexandros.tjworld.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-devel === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gman is now known as GmanZZZ === timfrost [n=timfrost@125-238-36-119.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-131-214.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === alesan [n=alesan@ppp-86-234.15-151.iol.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === iwj [n=ian@xenophobe.extern.relativity.greenend.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C4A53D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zic_ [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zic_ [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Quitte"] === elkbuntu_ [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zic_ [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === archis [n=archis@unaffiliated/archis] has joined #ubuntu-devel === archis [n=archis@unaffiliated/archis] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] === Gasten [n=Gasten@h52n9c1o1095.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === timfrost [n=timfrost@125-238-36-119.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:20] do you have any idea how to resolve the urgent bug that when inserting a USB key it gets assigned to a random user instead of all users in the plugdev group? [11:20] is there any way to configure this behaviour? [11:22] alesan: it gets assigned to the user currently logged in locally [11:23] Treenaks, unfortunately not, it's random [11:23] and the other users on the other displays get an error message not being able to access the device [11:23] I have a multiuser system with 7 separate displays [11:24] one of those displays (:0.0) is the local video/key/mouse === Zdra [n=zdra@101.207-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:24] the others are added using a particular PCI device that adds other 6 vga/key/mouse === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:25] I would really like to change the default mount options but I have no idea where to look for [11:25] I grepped everything but I do not happen to find anything useful :( [11:29] alesan: Check out /etc/hal/fdi/policy/preferences.fdi [11:30] thanks [11:30] well [11:30] :( this does not seem what I need === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:41] hey seb128 [11:44] hello pitti [11:44] pitti: what do you there on a saturday? ;) [11:45] seb128: poor wheather :) [11:45] seb128: same question for you [11:45] it's raining here as well :/ [11:45] seb128: I just reviewed Neil Horman's kernel patches for core_pattern improvements (IOW: getting apport to work on upstream kernel) [11:45] and I had some rarian questions for upstream so I've decided to start IRC ;) [11:46] does it look good? [11:46] seb128: they aren't too far from our's, but he uses core_pattern macros instead of environment variables [11:46] that's harder to implement, but a bit nicer to use [11:46] and I don't care much either way [11:48] so you are going to switch to the upstream way? [11:48] seb128, I hope I'm not mixing up nicknames, but yesterday I've been told that you could possibly help me on this gnome-volume-manager thing... [11:49] seb128: yes, as soon as it's committed upstream, I'll ask BenC to pull those patches and change apport [11:49] I basically have many displays other than the "console" and, if I insert a USB stick, its contents will appear on a random display and the device will be mounted with random uid [11:49] the other display will show an error message [11:49] alesan: you probably want to speak to pitti about g-v-m [11:50] alesan: didn't we discuss this yesterday already? [11:50] pitti, seb128 ok thank you :) to begin with [11:50] pitti, yes we did but, while I manages to "get around" the problem, I only made a ugly script that is not going to really solve the problem === luisbg [n=luisbg@157.Red-88-23-103.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:52] right now I stop g-v-m to start in the session by commenting in out from /usr/share/gnome/default.session === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:52] and, in /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-volume-manager.desktop I changed the "Exec" to a script that checks the $DISPLAY variable and only starts g-v-m --sm-disable if it is :0.0 [11:53] I see no other way to fix the "random display" thing. [11:53] err, won't that make gnome-volume-manager only work for the first user? [11:53] moreover, I'd really like to be able to configure the uid or gui mount options. any idea where to look? [11:53] Amaranth: why? it should work for the user having the foreground [11:54] no? [11:54] seb128: checking for :0.0 means it'll only work for the first X server [11:54] seb128, "having the foreground" means "random" on a multi user system with many displays [11:54] alesan: right, but there is no easy way to solve this problem [11:54] Amaranth, yes that's the best option I've encountered so far [11:55] yeah, if you run multiseat i'm not really sure how that could work [11:55] seb128, it seems on fedora they check soem /var/xxx/console file to start g-v-m only for that session on the console (first X server) [11:55] ConsoleKit [11:56] what is that? [11:58] there is no such package with similar name as I can see... [11:58] do you have at least idea how to let g-v-m mount with gid=plugdev instead of uid=USER ? [11:58] alesan: it entered gutsy a few days ago [11:58] alesan: "ConsoleKit is a framework for keeping track of the various users, sessions, and seats present on a system." [11:58] alesan: you can change the group in the 'drive' or 'volume' properties tab [12:00] pitti, after the device is mounted? [12:00] alesan: no, before [12:00] mh [12:00] alesan: well, mount the device, change options, mount it again [12:00] mh [12:00] 'k, gotta go, cu later [12:01] there are schools in Macedonia that are going to install this system for thousands of users :( this solution is not really simple === tkamppeter_ [n=till@bl7-105-2.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:08] what I do not understand, are the generic mount option of g-v-m hardcoded? isn't there a place to configure? === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-93-255.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:11] alesan: for what sort of device do you want to change the settings? [12:11] a normal USB stick [12:11] alesan: what filesystem? [12:12] I suppose the most common are vfat or so [12:12] alesan: try gconf-editor, /system/storage/defaults_options [12:12] I am preparing a system to be deployed in schools [12:12] you can change the gnome-mount options [12:12] so I should be as generic as possible [12:12] alesan: saturday is not the best day to get replies though, a good part of the distribution team doesn't IRC during the WE [12:13] yes :( I know [12:13] maybe you should mail ubuntu-devel-discuss [12:13] unfortunately it seems I have to find a solution before monday otherwise the deploy could be delayed [12:13] ok [12:14] try changing the gconf keys where I indicated [12:14] ok [12:16] thank you it seems that's what I need [12:16] you're welcome === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:21] umask on mount has a "complementary" meaning right? umask=000 should give full access to everybody === dsas [n=dean@ubuntu/member/dsas] has joined #ubuntu-devel === finalbeta [n=gggggggg@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === norsetto [n=norsetto@host115-213-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BaD_CrC [n=ns@c-71-231-214-232.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === alesan [n=alesan@151.71.217.173] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zic_ [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Havis [n=Havis@adsl-dyn13.91-127-72.t-com.sk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Martinp23 [n=Martinp2@wikimedia/Martinp23] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _wattazoum_ [n=wattazou@ant06-1-82-242-110-34.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@p549CCEFC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:27] <_wattazoum_> hello [01:27] <_wattazoum_> newbie needs help : I am finalising an application that can be runnable by root and by simple user. I want to add a menu entry for user at "Applications->system tools"(for non root users) and "system->Administration " (for root ) . how can I ? === _MMA_ [n=_MMA_@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _MMA_ [n=_MMA_@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [01:29] seb128: can you look at ubuntu-archive ? =) I don't like to bother you.. :) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jetscreamer [n=jetscrea@unaffiliated/jetscreamer] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee waves === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:41] Kmos: what is the hurry? [01:41] _wattazoum_: have a different .desktop for each entry === Zic_ [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:42] <_wattazoum_> seb128: thank you, so I 'll have 2 desktop entry , but how to specify the location in the menu ? === alesan [n=alesan@ppp-140-248.15-151.iol.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === norsetto [n=norsetto@host115-213-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [01:43] _wattazoum_: Categories= [01:43] <_wattazoum_> seb128: Great , you're a great help , thank you very much [01:43] you're welcome [01:43] <_wattazoum_> :) === Zic_ [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:48] Hi Hobbsee [01:49] could someone make a give-back for thunar-thumbnailers (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar-thumbnailers/0.2.2-0ubuntu1)? it seems it ftbfs some time ago on some arches because of hal failing to install. [01:51] mr_pouit: I doubt it's fixed, nautilus-cd-burner uploaded this morning fails due to hal also [01:53] hiya seb128 === Hobbsee wonders why seb128 is working [01:53] seb128: damn, ok :] [01:53] hello Hobbsee [01:53] Hobbsee: I try not, I was just cleaning some things because I want to get them landing before next tribe [01:54] seb128: ahhh. of which the work starts...on friday, or something === Hobbsee wonders who the release manager is for said tribe. [01:54] maybe none? ;) [01:55] heh. bet you'd like that [01:55] Oh, that'll go well. :-P [01:55] well, I think we could manage to fix issues and do testing, etc in a team organised way if required [01:55] we still need somebody to kick CD builds, etc though [01:56] seb128: and does require someone to organise the team, and make sure it's working, and doesnt fall over [01:56] Hobbsee, volunteers! [01:56] elkbuntu: i suspect you may not find any [01:56] no, im volunteering you [01:57] no, no, i did the last one. [01:57] i have uni this time around. [01:57] Hobbsee: well, I think we have people responsible enough in the team to get something working [01:57] it's a heck of a lot of work - doesnt make sense for canonical to rely on volunteers to do it [01:57] although i'd like to :P [01:57] seb128: oh good [01:57] (well, with pitti, i did the last one) [01:58] Hobbsee: it's just less efficient [01:58] seb128: true [01:58] and it's good to have somebody making sure issues are assigned to somebody === realist twiddles thumbs [01:58] and we need somebody dealing with the CD building and archive freeze and publisher [01:58] realist: is offering? [01:59] I would, if I knew what exactly was involved === realist is completely unqualified for the tast [01:59] s/tast/task/ [01:59] realist: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MilestoneProcess :P [02:00] there's a list. [02:00] realist, a cat'o'9 come in handy [02:01] I see, it's a project management type role :-) [02:01] elkbuntu: indeed! [02:01] Surely ubuntu isn't short of a release manager!? [02:02] realist: the current one is getting married, and therefore going on leave. [02:02] no idea when the transition happens [02:04] I honestly like to help, but don't have an existing relationship with ubuntu developers. === Hobbsee shrugs === alesan_ [n=alesan@ppp-114-246.15-151.iol.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:05] realist: if you are interested in helping in bits, i believe there are some areas. [02:06] you'd probably have to ask during the week, i guess === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [n=ivoks@78-0-145-216.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zic_ [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:17] <_wattazoum_> me again :-) ; how comes some entries in the "System->Admin" menu (eg. synaptic) are visible only by sudoers and not by others (whyle nothing seems to be specifying this in the .desktop file) ? === Zic_ [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Martinp24 [n=Martinp2@wikimedia/Martinp23] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Martinp23 [n=Martinp2@wikimedia/Martinp23] has joined #ubuntu-devel === licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:55] _wattazoum_: because there is no reason to display applications to users who cannot use them [02:55] <_wattazoum_> yep , but how do I make this for my application ? [02:56] I'd guess it's done with Categories [02:56] <_wattazoum_> mdke: I would like to make a menu entry that is only usable by sudoers [02:57] <_wattazoum_> well, I have looked at synaptic.desktop and find nothing that would mean that in Categories [02:58] <_wattazoum_> thank you geser , mdke for helping me out [02:58] there is likely to be a specification on the wiki about how we did it, hang on [03:00] _wattazoum_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HideAdminToolsToUsers [03:00] <_wattazoum_> WOW [03:01] <_wattazoum_> mdke: This is efficient === _wattazoum_ is looking at it [03:01] :) === cjwatson_ [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:03] <_wattazoum_> hum, well, the "X-KDE-SubstituteUID = true" option is quite confusing :-/ [03:03] <_wattazoum_> but that was the solution [03:03] <_wattazoum_> mdke: I owe you one :-) [03:04] np. === Hobbsee waves to mdke === mdke waves back, and notes that "flavour" is a spelling lent to Australia by the English [03:04] we can take it back at any time [03:06] <_wattazoum_> :p [03:06] mdke: i thought it may have been. i used to speak to people mainly in the US, rather than mainly in England, where they would keep telling me that I was spelling flavour wrong. [03:06] lies [03:07] exactly [03:08] Hobbsee: At which point you say, "Sorry, I don't speak American." [03:08] heh :) === ryu [n=chris@unaffiliated/ryu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-devel === silver6 [n=jg@bas2-ottawa10-1279281693.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:33] mdke: probably because we speak English, in Australia :-) === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:34] I still get the irrits, when I see things like "color" in config files [03:35] i'm not sure you can claim to speak English and then say "irrits" [03:35] :P [03:40] thom: that was colloquial ;p === vlowther [n=vlowther@adsl-75-55-115-198.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Adri2000 [n=adri2000@ubuntu/member/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:51] hmm [03:51] anyone know what PPA means when a package fails to upload? afaics it built fine [03:52] Launchpad failed to fiddle it to move it into the accepted queue. A buildd admin can twiddle in. === j_ack [n=j_ack@p508DB652.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:52] Er, twiddle it in [03:54] hmm === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:54] technically I'm a buildd admin, but I don't want to go poking around ;) [03:54] StevenK: thanks [03:58] Who is Matthew Nuzum? [03:58] Amaranth, newz2000 [03:59] Never heard of him [03:59] that's because he hides well [03:59] But he is surprisingly bad at filing bug reports [04:00] Does he hide out in #canonical only or something? [04:01] he's in #canonical-sysadmin at least (although probably not awake right now) === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:05] <_wattazoum_> mdke: are you available ? === Zic_ [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:06] <_wattazoum_> I would like to propose my software to Ubuntu repositories , can someone point me to the right direction ? [04:12] _wattazoum_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:13] <_wattazoum_> Thank you seb128 ( how do you find docs so easily ? ) [04:13] _wattazoum_: you're welcome [04:13] wiki is easy to use, I search pages with "new" in the title ;) [04:13] and then I looked for "package" [04:13] <_wattazoum_> lol [04:14] <_wattazoum_> well, next time I'll take more time to find :-) or use simpler requests === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pedro [n=pedro@pc-65-202-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:19] Do we have any gnome VFS programmers in? [04:20] you probably want #gnome-hackers or possibly #gnomevfs on irc.gnome.org [04:20] yeah, I probably do... 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[07:50] either its fixed in my bzr branch ... or i dropped it [07:50] lets see [07:51] siretart: did the compatibility link trick work for you? === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:51] asac: sorry? [07:51] asac: I'm talking about bug #112818, btw [07:51] Launchpad bug 112818 in firefox "wrong pkgconfig dependencies break builds" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/112818 [07:52] siretart: that bug whould be there [07:53] siretart: its not a bug iirc [07:53] asac: sorry? [07:53] how can this possibly be not a bug? === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:54] the .pc file specifies this as Cflags: -I/usr/include/firefox/nspr [07:54] However, /usr/include/firefox/nspr does not exist. This breaks e.g. gxine build === CompleteNoob [n=pirch@dsl-241-221-111.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:55] is there anyone online that can pvt me, and with great patience explain to me how to get started in development/coding? [07:55] what are the necessary steps do build a custom version of ubuntu. I mean, I would like to add some software and drivers on the live CD [07:56] I guess there is a svn and a script to prepare the ISO image [07:56] siretart: the firefox-nspr.pc file is obsolete [07:57] siretart: thus the compatibility link to /usr/include/nspr/nspr.pc [07:57] e.g. thats the solution [07:57] ... which i asked you to test ... or someone else a few days ago [07:57] but never received an answer [07:57] i will do that now in bzr branch [07:58] asac: since thre is nothing about that question in lp, I'd think you confuse me with so. else [07:58] sure [07:58] asac: can you then perhaps look at fixing the gxine package? [07:58] i think so too [07:58] what is the issue? [07:58] asac: in debian, it is built against xulrunner, and now I'm quite confused how to fix it in ubuntu [07:59] asac: as said in the bugreport, it FTBFS, because it uses firefox-nspr.pc [08:00] siretart: if you want to try ... just rm firefox-nspr.pc and firefox-nss.pc and create links to the nss/nspr files instead [08:00] maybe it just works then [08:00] if not i can look [08:00] out of nowhere, why don't we chgrp to dialout on pap|chap-secrets? with rw for group? [08:01] asac: I do not know the firefox source at all. not sure how much time it will take for me to figure out what you exacly mean :) [08:03] siretart: no i mean [08:03] just in install [08:03] remove the firefox-nspr.pc that is installed [08:03] and replace it with nspr.pc [08:05] asac: if i wanted to write a 'hello world' for ubuntu...where would i start? what IDE/compiler etc would i use? [08:05] i'm VERY new to programming [08:07] CompleteNoob: its not really ubuntu specific [08:07] e.g. more linux/unix [08:07] in general: use and editor + the compiler of your choice [08:07] CompleteNoob: this channel is not about general development, but development of ubuntu. you should try a more focused channel [08:08] sirestart, could u reccomend a chan i could check out? 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[10:57] it is already mentioned in the bug [10:57] it just needs to be given back, no new upload necessary === cassus [n=adamx@53d834c3.adsl.enternet.hu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cassus [n=adamx@53d834c3.adsl.enternet.hu] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === cassus [n=adamx@53d834c3.adsl.enternet.hu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:24] hi [11:24] where did the #ubuntu-boot chanel disappeared? === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:26] is bogofilter the preferred spam filtering program nowadays, rather than spamassassin (i see the latter is in universe)? [11:27] ok, never mind [11:27] bye === cassus [n=adamx@53d834c3.adsl.enternet.hu] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-devel === CarlF1 [n=carl@adsl-75-57-174-245.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ryu2 [n=chris@unaffiliated/ryu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _lemsx1_ [n=lemsx1@p86-65.acedsl.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === ryu2 is now known as ryu === norsetto [n=norsetto@host19-186-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Nicke [n=niclasa@c83-251-18-254.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rendero [n=rendero@unaffiliated/rendero] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pygi [n=mario@128-14.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:58] hey folks === pkl_ [n=phillip@unaffiliated/pkl/x-764568] has joined #ubuntu-devel === blueyed [n=daniel@i5387C78A.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mrsno [n=mrsno@cpc3-blfs6-0-0-cust294.belf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel