[12:01] <afief> What package do I need to install in order to get the X development files?
[12:01] <BaD_CrC> i wonder if i should bite into the $150 laptop
[12:01] <Bree1> sabreena 10592  0.0  0.0   2880   760 pts/0    R+   18:00   0:00 grep ktorrent
[12:01] <C_> has any one had any luck at all with ati and beryl ?
[12:01] <MadFaxer> I cant find a link to the alternate boot cd for Ubuntu....I found the one for Xubuntu, can I use that one?
[12:01] <Bree1> I have no clue what I just pasted means, compengi. :P
[12:02] <afief> C_, yes, but only with XGL for me
[12:02] <kitche> afief: the -dev packages for what you need
[12:02] <compengi> Bree1, it's not loaded/running. type "ktorrent" in the terminal would it load now?
[12:02] <CaptainFrisbee> BaD_CrC, the 150$ laptop as featured on slashdot?
[12:02] <kitche> afief: for exmaple libX11-dev and so on
[12:02] <Lambach> Is it true that I can't share a fat32 HDD over samba ?
[12:02] <Bree1> Ooh. Gives me errors and warnings, compengi.
[12:02] <Bree1> Failed to open device. :P
[12:03] <compengi> Bree1, O.o
[12:03] <nikolam> How much virtualized XP is slower when it run in virtual machine on Linux? (For games)
[12:03] <compengi> !ktorrent
[12:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ktorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:03] <jaqatac> i have a few questions
[12:03] <BaD_CrC> CaptainFrisbee: i didn't read it on slashdot. i saw it on cnet.com. probably the same one.
[12:03] <compengi> Bree1, well i recommend you to use rtorrent, but it's a text mode program but very good one
[12:03] <C_> yah i installed that about 30mnts a go and OMG blue screen
[12:04] <Bree1> Is it hard to use, eh, compengi?
[12:04] <EvolutionAstur> hi
[12:04] <compengi> Bree1, not at all
[12:04] <CaptainFrisbee> BaD_CrC, the company that is selling looks very fishy
[12:04] <A[D] minS> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31602/ please advise
[12:04] <compengi> Bree1, very easy though
[12:04] <EvolutionAstur> I have a problem with Evolution mail
[12:04] <EvolutionAstur> MAIL FROM ha fallado: Authentication Required
[12:04] <CaptainFrisbee> BaD_CrC, could be a way to get some quick money
[12:04] <Bree1> ALright. Thanks compengi :P
[12:04] <compengi> Bree1, np :)
[12:04] <pete83> Breel: what about deluge? I've never tried it, but I hear it's a great torrent program for gnome
[12:05] <EvolutionAstur> I think all options are ok but this is what happens
[12:05] <jahid_> hi, when i was trying to build an application in kdevelop i got an error, which is like ----> http://rafb.net/p/gQmlbf28.html
[12:05] <fsckr> how do you delete a program you install using make install?  if it doesn't have make uninstall?
[12:05] <jahid_> can any one tell me, what is the problem?
[12:05] <codecaine> how can you get firefox to work with amule?
[12:05] <BaD_CrC> CaptainFrisbee: i don't want to turn around and sell it. i've never had a laptop and could really use one for school.
[12:05] <kitche> fsckr: delete the files it installed
[12:05] <Bree1> Ill try that as well, thanks pete83
[12:05] <pete83> fsckr: try making a package for it, and then install the package and then uninstall it
[12:06] <BaD_CrC> then of course i'd toss ubuntu on it
[12:06] <CaptainFrisbee> BaD_CrC, no I mean that the company that is selling the laptop is probably fake
[12:06] <compengi> fsckr, browse to the source directory from where you installed the program through terminal then run "make uninstall"
[12:06] <fsckr> pete83: how do you make a package for it
[12:06] <BaD_CrC> CaptainFrisbee: could be. i have my suspicions. i might wait a few weeks for some bigger companies to do some investigations.
[12:06] <fsckr> compengi: you didn't read what i wrote it doesn't have a make uninstall :)
[12:07] <CaptainFrisbee> BaD_CrC, http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/07/25/1519256
[12:07] <compengi> fsckr, did you install with sudo make install?
[12:07] <cello_rasp> hi. how do i stop & start a network interface? or stop & start the network daemon?
[12:07] <pete83> fsckr: first, "apt-get install checkinstall" .... then you make a package by typing "checkinstall -D --fstrans=yes --install=no make install"
[12:07] <akemi> l
[12:07] <fsckr> ty guys
[12:08] <tschaub> I'd like to use postgis for postgresql - I only see postgis for postgresql-8.1 packaged for ubuntu - should I switch back to postgresql-8.1 (from 8.2) or go with an "unstable" debian package?
[12:08] <BaD_CrC> CaptainFrisbee: of course it sounds too good to be true. there's people like me who work fulltime and go to school part time, and see things like this knowing it's gotta be too good to be true.
[12:08] <pete83> fsckr: and next time, please use checkinstall to make a package, instead of simply using make install.... then you will be able to uninstall it esily
[12:09] <BaD_CrC> CaptainFrisbee: i just want to expand my linux development abilities without having to sit in my room and be tethered to my desktop system.
[12:09] <jaqatac> how do i put ubuntu over windows
[12:09] <jaqatac> do i have to dual boot?
[12:09] <pete83> jaqatac: isn't that the nicest way?
[12:10] <tschaub> jaqatac vmware player?
[12:10] <jaqatac> don't i have to leave windows on my comp to dual boot?
[12:10] <John`> how can I see the folder properties in terminal?
[12:10] <pete83> jaqatac: you can get rid of windows if you want, but it's nice to leave yourself the choice isn't it?
[12:10] <jahid_> when i try to exeute this----> sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-nonfree
[12:10] <John`> is there a command to see how big the folder is? etc.
[12:11] <jahid_> i get an error, saing ----> E: Invalid operation purge
[12:11] <jaqatac> lol i don't know
[12:11] <cello_rasp> John` du /folder
[12:11] <jaqatac> im a bit fed up with it
[12:11] <cello_rasp> man du
[12:11] <CaptainFrisbee> BaD_CrC, There should be some very cheap laptops coming out from asus and other manufacturers in the future. http://www.pcretailmag.com/news/26590/Asus-launches-new-budget-laptop-range
[12:11] <BaD_CrC> man, i really should've taken a C programming class instead Java. i just want easily portable code.
[12:11] <pete83> jahid_: of course... so the question is, why are you typing in an invalid command?
[12:11] <cello_rasp> John` or `ls -alh /folder/file`
[12:12] <Jack_Sparrow> jahid_: does purge go at the end?
[12:12] <jahid_> pete83, well, i got that in an website, and i was following that
[12:12] <tschaub> is it bad practice to use packages from http://packages.debian.org/unstable ?
[12:12] <jahid_> Jack_Sparrow, no, it just stops saying that error
[12:12] <BaD_CrC> tschaub: i have a couple, but i wouldn't suggest using debian unstable packages.
[12:13] <humbolto> Does anybody know if a vmware host-only network can only have private IPs?
[12:13] <Jack_Sparrow> jahid_: If you dont get an error it should have worked
[12:13] <tschaub> thanks BaD_CrC
[12:13] <Anlar> humbolto: yes, if you really want public you do the bridge
[12:13] <pete83> jahid_: use this instead: sudo dpkg -P flashplugin-nonfree
[12:13] <jahid_> Jack_Sparrow, it just shows that error, and exits from installations
[12:14] <jahid_> pete83, ok
[12:14] <nikolam> Hello
[12:14] <BaD_CrC> there needs to be a gnome applet that streams mms:// radio streams without having to jump through hoops.
[12:14] <nikolam> What virtualization program do you use, if you want to Run XP as Guest under Linux?
[12:14] <BaD_CrC> virtualbox
[12:15] <pete83> nikolam: sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[12:15] <Anlar> nikolam: usually I have used vmware because it's plain superior in every category..
[12:15] <nikolam> is it fas enougth for games?
[12:15] <humbolto> Anlar: what I want are public IPs on a in-the-box virtual switch. I am routhing to that network through the parent system.
[12:15] <unagi> anyone know of a better network monitor than the standard gnome?
[12:15] <pete83> nikolam: no
[12:15] <BaD_CrC> nikolam: depends on your cpu and ram
[12:15] <cello_rasp> nikolam it depends if you have a lot of memory & a fast cpu
[12:15] <jahid_> can anyone help me about that kdevelop problem?
[12:15] <BaD_CrC> jahid_: #kdevelop  ?
[12:15] <nikolam> 2gig 2.5G amd 64x2 virtalization
[12:16] <jahid_> hi, when i was trying to build an application in kdevelop i got an error, which is like ----> http://rafb.net/p/gQmlbf28.html
[12:16] <Anlar> humbolto: it sounds like you should enable the bridged networking then
[12:16] <pete83> nikolam: no virtualization will be fast enough for new games.... maybe good enough for starcraft, at the highest end
[12:16] <jahid_> BaD_CrC,  when i was trying to build an application in kdevelop i got an error, which is like ----> http://rafb.net/p/gQmlbf28.html
[12:16] <nikolam> Thank you :)
[12:16] <osxdude|lap> SUCESS
[12:16] <pete83> nikolam: you can always try WINE
[12:16] <BaD_CrC> hmm, i wonder if it's too late to switch classes to C programming...
[12:17] <nikolam> I will then have two xp`s one for games throught dual-boot and one for "every day" under linux :)
[12:17] <nikolam> I wil definetly use wine :)
[12:17] <BaD_CrC> hehe, ReactOS
[12:17] <nikolam> Thank you <;)
[12:17] <pete83> nikolam: also, you can try a real linux game. I found tremulous to be devastatingly addictive
[12:17] <BaD_CrC> WINEdows?
[12:18] <BaD_CrC> i apologize for babbling
[12:18] <nikolam> I will write it down.. hmmm "Tremulous" that is good idea!
[12:18] <Jack_Sparrow> pete83: Where do you get tremulous and how hard is it to install?
[12:18] <IndyGunFreak> anyone know where there's an FAQ for dual booting vista and Ubuntu, on raid?
[12:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !raid
[12:18] <ubotu> Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[12:18] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: done that already
[12:18] <Omar> how to set my network ip
[12:18] <pete83> nikolam, Jack_Sparrow: sudo apt-get install tremulous
[12:19] <CaptainFrisbee> jahid_, have you installed all necessary packages for developing? for instance build-essential
[12:19] <nikolam> Thanks Jack!
[12:19] <nikolam> Thanks pete!
[12:19] <nikolam> Going back on killing Xp :))
[12:20] <nikolam> Cu all
[12:20] <jahid_> CaptainFrisbee, I just insatll kdevelop environment
[12:20] <jahid_> CaptainFrisbee, nothing else
[12:20] <Jack_Sparrow> pete that failed
[12:20] <Przemcio78> what's the main nuisance of ubuntu?
[12:20] <raw-bin> greets. A question. I've to install ubuntu feisty on a new thinkpad t61p which is a Core 2 Duo based machine. Does anyone here know if this needs an x86 or x86-64 install CD ?
[12:20] <pete83> Jack_Sparrow: what?! how?
[12:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Failed and says I should file a bug report
[12:21] <Anlar> raw-bin: if you have to ask (inexperience), install 32-bit
[12:21] <pete83> Jack_Sparrow:so my command did install it?
[12:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[12:21] <Jack_Sparrow> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[12:21] <Jack_Sparrow> that package should be filed.
[12:21] <pdxchar> raw-bin: x86.
[12:22] <pete83> Jack_Sparrow: ah, did it download it first?
[12:22] <nikolam> raw-bin: It will definately work with x86 but you need to check your processor type if you think it supports 64-bit
[12:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Unmet dependencies
[12:22] <raw-bin> Anlar, pdxchar, thanks! I read on the relevant wikipedia page that a Core 2 Duo is a 64-bit Core. Doesn't that mean that it needs a 64-bit x86 distr ?
[12:22] <Omar> am having a probelm in installing ubuntu , i have ati x 1300 video card and the installer is unable to lunch
[12:23] <pete83> Jack_Sparrow: trry using synaptics, and select the package "tremulous"
[12:23] <Omar> is there any solution?
[12:23] <pdxchar> raw-bin: I have a Core2 Duo machine and I'm running 32-bit.
[12:23] <CaptainFrisbee> jahid_, try: sudo apt-get install automake
[12:23] <mrpoundsign> raw-bin: "needs" is a strong word. you can run a 32-bit OS on a core 2 duo.
[12:23] <Anlar> raw-bin: no, it doesnt need. you can run both. ut 64-bit still has some problems with especially proprietary software and solving them requries experience and time
[12:23] <pdxchar> Doesn't hurt to try, right?
[12:23] <nikolam> Omar: Try using Alternate CD
[12:24] <raw-bin> Ok. I did try x86-64 but the installation just "blanks" out.
[12:24] <Jack_Sparrow> pete83: Same error unable to install unmet dependencies
[12:24] <dissection> Is there a way to play an mp3 or wav from the CLI?
[12:24] <raw-bin> I think I'll install a 32-bit version then.
[12:24] <pete83> Jack_Sparrow: do you have the universe repository added?
[12:24] <pdxchar> raw-bin: x86 detects both processors, as far as I can tell.
[12:24] <Jack_Sparrow> pete83: No biggie just wanted you to know
[12:24] <nikolam> raw-bin try also alternate and if 64 dont work, 32 will
[12:24] <Omar> i dont have that cd now
[12:24] <Jack_Sparrow> YEp, universe enabled
[12:24] <Omar> is there anyway to work it out
[12:25] <raw-bin> Alright. Thanks folks.
[12:25] <nikolam> maybe trying to pass something on boot, like telling instalaltion to use vesa driver or so
[12:25] <raw-bin> WIll give that a shot
[12:25] <pete83> Jack_Sparrow: hmmm, that's really weird. I guess you can always get the standalone installer from http://tremulous.net/files/
[12:25] <Jack_Sparrow> libaopenal0a looks to be the issue
[12:25] <nikolam> Try to look in boot switches/options you can pass to kernel during boot
[12:26] <nikolam> raw: 32 is safe bet
[12:26] <jahid_> CaptainFrisbee, now i get this-----> http://rafb.net/p/BLLqjM96.html
[12:26] <CaptainFrisbee> dissection, use the play command
[12:27] <CaptainFrisbee> jahid_, sudo apt-get install libtool
[12:27] <velko> dissection, they are a whole bunch command line audio players. try aplay, mpg123, mpg32 or even mplayer
[12:27] <nj786> does anybody in here know alot about avant manger?
[12:28] <dissection> velko: Which of them is the simplest of all? I was trying to get my irssi to play an audio file using /exec
[12:28] <BaD_CrC> how do you tell what packages a meta-package will install before installing it?
[12:28] <pete83> Jack_Sparrow: so, what version of libopenal0a does it need, and which version do you have?
[12:28] <pete83> Jack_Sparrow: don't give up, tremulous is the best game in the entire world!
[12:28] <velko> dissection, all of them accept a file name as argument. they are all equal easy
[12:28] <CaptainFrisbee> dissection, play $mp3file
[12:29] <Jack_Sparrow> It dosent say.. not worried about it..  this is a fairly clean dapper system and never run envy or automatix.. or any script
[12:29] <dissection> okay
[12:29] <pete83> Jack_Sparrow: oh, Dapper! hmm, I've only ever used it on edgy and feisty...
[12:30] <nj786> hey can somebody tell me how to get VMWARE server so i can download instal windows
[12:30] <dissection> CaptainFrisbee: It says this when I tried that-----> sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': Device or resource busy
[12:30] <pete83> Jack_Sparrow: OK then, just remember this game for the time when you upgrade to a later ubuntu version
[12:30] <Jack_Sparrow> That wont be until the next lts version
[12:31] <CaptainFrisbee> dissection, ok try one of the other command-line audioplayers
[12:31] <Jack_Sparrow> pete83 Depends: tremulous-data (>=1.1.0-1) but it is not installable
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[12:32] <Flannel> !ops
[12:32] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
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[12:32] <osxdude|desk> good job
[12:32] <iNcrease> !spam Danyael_X
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam danyael_x - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <|Hat-trick|> This isn't 4chan <_<
[12:32] <jullsson> can some one tel me how to fix the sound? i only have sound in music player rythembox :S
[12:32] <|Hat-trick|> aww too late
[12:32] <osxdude|desk> !desu
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about desu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <|Hat-trick|> !boku
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about boku - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <ys76> get yourself?
[12:33] <Kernel> |Hat-trick|: rule #1 rule #2
[12:33] <Kernel> ;-)
[12:33] <marc_> hello all, I have an issue where I enabled the desktop effects... after disabling it i have been experiencing some weird issues.  I no longer have the close or minimize functions and my terminal does not even launch correctly?
[12:33] <dougb> !lamp
[12:33] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:33] <CaptainFrisbee> marc_, the window-decorations are disabled ?
[12:33] <forum2006> hmm, anyone got "Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01)" with bcm43xx drivers in gusty working?
[12:33] <Jack_Sparrow> PriceChild: Nice job, quick on the keys today
[12:33] <CaptainFrisbee> marc_, could you try in a terminal: metacity --replace &
[12:34] <marc_> CaptainFrisbeeyes both wobble and cube are disabled
[12:34] <Xonnel> Hello
[12:34] <nj786> can anybody help me get vmware for windows
[12:34] <nj786> so i can run windows xp virtual
[12:34] <Jack_Sparrow> forum2006: In dapper and feisty..yes
[12:34] <smultron> is there a way to edit the hosts files (or something similar... i forget) to redirect a URL to another one when it's typed into the browser?
[12:34] <Xonnel> Hi - anyone help with a quick question about changing a display driver?
[12:35] <forum2006> Jack_Sparrow, well, i tried it in feisty first but no go
[12:35] <nj786> does anybody in here know about VMWARE server???/
[12:35] <Jack_Sparrow> forum2006: fwcutter worked like a charm
[12:35] <marc_> CaptainFrisbee: I cant even open a terminal
[12:35] <Thomsen> nj786: Just download vmware server
[12:35] <Jack_Sparrow> forum2006: How did you try it
[12:35] <nj786> Thomsen: i know
[12:35] <iFries> nj786: sudo apt-get install vmware-server
[12:35] <Xonnel> Have a T22 I just installed but running at 800x600
[12:35] <nj786> iFries: ok and then next step
[12:35] <CaptainFrisbee> marc_, ALT-F2 metacity --replace
[12:35] <Xonnel> no way to change to better in the Change Res screen
[12:35] <forum2006> Jack_Sparrow, without the fwcutter. which driver did you used for the fwcutter ?
[12:35] <osxdude|lap> OMG CTRL+TAB changes tabs in Pidgin
[12:36] <Jack_Sparrow> forum2006: Let me look it up..
[12:36] <jonatan> marc_: restarting X doesn't help ?
[12:36] <iFries> nj786: Applications > System tools > VMware Server Console
[12:36] <nj786> iFries: hold
[12:36] <rodserling> :)
[12:36] <Jack_Sparrow> forum2006: http://boredklink.googlepages.com/wl_apsta.o
[12:37] <Jack_Sparrow> forum2006: sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware ~/Desktop/wl_apsta.o
[12:37] <Xonnel> I have a downloaded S3 driver but have no idea how to install it. Have read everything I can
[12:37] <forum2006> Jack_Sparrow, and that's it?
[12:37] <Jack_Sparrow> forum2006: sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware/`uname -r` ~/Desktop/wl_apsta.o
[12:37] <Jack_Sparrow> forum2006: You asked for the driver
[12:37] <Xonnel> anyone know how to install a driver .o file on X11
[12:37] <Jack_Sparrow> forum2006: That is what I used
[12:38] <PriceChild> Xonnel, s3 is savage isn't it?
[12:38] <forum2006> Jack_Sparrow, ok, i'll give it another try.
[12:38] <bjames> I've added some values to my xorg.conf file, but they don't appear to have been interpreted (i.e. in the Ubuntu GUI I cannot select the new resolutions). I have tried killing and restarting x
[12:38] <Jack_Sparrow> forum2006: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[12:38] <CaptainFrisbee> marc_, problem fixed?
[12:38] <Xonnel> Price: Yeap
[12:38] <marc_> CaptainFrisbee: no desktop froze i had to restart
[12:38] <PriceChild> Xonnel, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change the device driver to savage
[12:38] <marc_> CaptainFrisbee: I can not get to terminal
[12:38] <marc_> CaptainFrisbee: is just freezes up on me when I launch it
[12:39] <Xonnel> Price: Where does the .o file need to be?
[12:39] <Jack_Sparrow> forum2006:
[12:39] <Jack_Sparrow> You may find that Network Manager adds itself to system > preferences > sessions >startup programs
[12:39] <Jack_Sparrow> or you may not, if you find its not inlcuded, add
[12:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Code:
[12:39] <Jack_Sparrow>  nm-applet --sm-disable
[12:39] <Xonnel> anywhere?
[12:39] <Jack_Sparrow> forum2006: Sorry....
[12:39] <Jack_Sparrow> forum2006: Meant that to be one line
[12:39] <CaptainFrisbee> marc_, are desktop-effects enabled?
[12:39] <marc_> CaptainFrisbee: Yes, what was the command you gave me again?
[12:39] <nj786> iFries: it says in terminal it says couldn't find package vmware-server
[12:39] <nj786> iFries: what do i do
[12:40] <CaptainFrisbee> marc_, metacity --replace
[12:40] <marc_> CaptainFrisbee: wow thank god, that worked.
[12:40] <marc_> CaptainFrisbee: why does that happen?
[12:40] <CaptainFrisbee> marc_, that command will reload the default window manager
[12:41] <nj786> iFries: ???
[12:41] <CaptainFrisbee> marc_, I have sometimes similar problems with compiz, the window-decorations stop working
[12:42] <marc_> CaptainFrisbee: ok so it's a common issue.  I appreciate your help
[12:42] <d9gk> I have a question about  the installer, what is the "help for grub device selection" in advanced options?
[12:42] <N[i] X> hello, does anybody know where i can find a manual to install selinux onto ubuntu?
[12:42] <d9gk> I need to dual boot windows and so shoudn't overwrite mbr, how can I make sure the installer does this?
[12:43] <CaptainFrisbee> marc_, thx
[12:43] <nj786> iFries: are you there???????
[12:43] <Jack_Sparrow> forum2006: Are you still here..?
[12:43] <slow_> good night guys
[12:43] <Xonnel> PriceChild: Sorry to be a boob here but I've check the sources.list file
[12:44] <slow_> i'm trying to install mercury but when ai start to run on console
[12:44] <nj786> iFries: ???
[12:44] <ukine-server> i did something stupid and grub installed to the beginning of my win (ntfs) part rather than the mbr, wiping out its boot sector. can anyone give me instructions for finding it/putting it over the 1st sector on this part?
[12:44] <Xonnel> and just many deb.src lines and nothing that looks like a driver line
[12:44] <forum2006> Jack_Sparrow, yes
[12:44] <slow_> it says the it doesn't run on blacdown java
[12:44] <Jack_Sparrow> forum2006: Just a side note.. wifiradar can mess things up
[12:44] <slow_> it need java 1.5
[12:45] <Thomsen> nj786: You'll need to enable the commercial repositories
[12:45] <slow_> where i can get it?
[12:45] <chandoo> is it possible to install using thumb drive and a dvd image
[12:45] <chandoo> i am new to ubuntu
[12:45] <nj786> Thomsen: how do i do that
[12:45] <clearzen> !grub | ukine-server
[12:45] <ubotu> ukine-server: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:46] <Jordan_U_> Jack_Sparrow, forum2006 wifiradar AFIK would only mess up network-manager but that can be easily fixed by giving control back to network manager by setting the interface in "roaming" mode in System -> Preferences -> networking
[12:46] <roxygirl> anyone out there know anything about creating slideshow DVD's?
[12:46] <slow_> i need sun java 1.5
[12:46] <PriceChild> Xonnel, argh sorry
[12:46] <Thomsen> nj786: Try going to Applications -> Add/remove programs
[12:46] <PriceChild> Xonnel, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:46] <d9gk> does installer always install grub in mbr?
[12:46] <PriceChild> Xonnel, i always give the wrong on which is so foolish of me sorry.
[12:46] <d9gk> is that mbr of entire drive, or just for its own partition?
[12:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Jordan_Uglad to know the fix for that, just wanted to let him know there was some issue with it
[12:46] <CaptainFrisbee> roxygirl, the easiest way is using picasa
[12:46] <Thomsen> nj786: You are using version 4.07 of ubuntu, right?
[12:46] <nj786> Thomsen: no
[12:47] <nj786> Thomsen: 7.04
[12:47] <jcnr> hola
[12:47] <clearzen> d9gk: the mbr is for all installed OS
[12:47] <roxygirl> captainFrisbee: will i be able to create menu's and put it into a dvd format?
[12:47] <chrisLAbeard> what is the file again
[12:47] <chrisLAbeard> xong.cnf
[12:47] <forum2006> Jack_Sparrow, well. modules bcm43xx is loaded and 'iwlist eth1 scan' shows my access point but no ping
[12:47] <Thomsen> nj786: Sorry, that's what I ment :-)   Well, in add/remove programs, click Preferences and make sure Multiverse is selscted
[12:48] <d9gk> clearzen: don't I need to leave windows mbr to be able to boot xp in a dual boot?
[12:48] <jcnr> hola nesesito ayuda
[12:48] <ukine-server> d9gk, grub should auto-detect windows and provide boot options for both
[12:48] <d9gk> ukine-server: I thought grub couldn't boot windows
[12:48] <Jack_Sparrow> forum2006: Jordan_U knows more about that than I do...  DOnt know why you would not be getting a ping
[12:48] <ukine-server> d9gk, i'm pretty sure it can
[12:48] <clearzen> d9gk: Grub will boot windows
[12:49] <jcnr> hi
[12:49] <tim__b> anyone can help me with some iptables thinkie: i won't to drop all requests, excecpt for a specified range.
[12:49] <forum2006> Jack_Sparrow, Jordan_U, yeah strange...
[12:49] <ukine-server> clearzen, nothing at that 2nd link on grub howtos on how to restore a backup ntfs boot sector when i've accidentally had grub overwrite it :x
[12:49] <jcnr> i need help about trixbos
[12:49] <Jordan_U_> I have mad a one line "script" to raise my fan speed so I can just double click it but it requires root privileges when I use "echo "5999" | sudo tee /sys/devices/platform/applesmc/fan0_minimum_speed" and that works but if I replace sudo with gksudo it doesn't
[12:49] <d9gk> this is why I thought it can't: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#DOS_002fWindows
[12:49] <Xonnel> PriceChild: Thanks. Have been in the xorg.conf earlier - just note sure how to ref the driver file from there.
[12:49] <clearzen> d9gk: If you overwrite it you can repair it. But it is best not to overwrite it in the first place
[12:49] <CaptainFrisbee> roxygirl, you can also use dvd-slideshow http://dvd-slideshow.sourceforge.net/wiki/Main_Page
[12:49] <chandoo> is it possible to compile any drivers or souce in ubuntu
[12:50] <N[i] X> can anybody tell me what kernel is on the last ubuntu?
[12:50] <CaptainFrisbee> roxygirl, but this is a commandline app
[12:50] <PriceChild> Xonnel, look for the device section
[12:50] <clearzen> ukine-server: one sec
[12:50] <bjames> chandoo: that's possible in all Linux distros
[12:50] <PriceChild> Xonnel, then there's a line that will be something like Driver "vesa"
[12:50] <d9gk> clearzen: how can I stop the installer from overwriting it?
[12:50] <Xonnel> YEap
[12:50] <bjames> sudo apt-get build-essential
[12:50] <Jack_Sparrow> forum2006: do you see bars at the top right of your screen?
[12:50] <bjames> ;)
[12:50] <Jordan_U_> forum2006, Does "sudo iwconfig eth1 essid < the name of an open network to test >" give an error?
[12:50] <chandoo> bjames : can i install ubuntu using thumb drive and a dvd image?
[12:50] <Xonnel> Just change it to savage?S3?
[12:50] <roxygirl> captainfrisbee:  dvd-slideshow is all coding tho, right?  i'm looking for something with a quick and easy to use interface... i was trying qdvd author but it keeps crashing, as does open office presentation when i try to use a lot of photo's
[12:51] <clearzen> ukine-server:http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=655
[12:51] <Jordan_U_> chandoo, You can from the LiveCD image
[12:51] <imbecile> hey guys, how do i add gpg key to sources.list? I added my sources from my last install of ubuntu and the key says "no public key available" when i c/p the file
[12:51] <d9gk> should I manually create partitions including /boot in order to dual boot? the wiki page on this says it is all automagically done
[12:51] <forum2006> Jordan_U, right, i should test without encryption. brb
[12:52] <Draconicus> In a fit of carelessness while trying to get an evil broadcom card to finally work, we accidentally deleted its module (/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx.ko). What do we reinstall to get it back?
[12:52] <Thomsen> roxygirl: I'm pretty sure digikam has a plugin for dvd authoring
[12:52] <Jordan_U_> imbecile, Go to the site that hosts the repo, instructions for adding their key are probably on the first page
[12:52] <clearzen> d9gk: It should be done automatically, I haven't done it in a while I don't run windows on this machine. But I didn't have problems with friends machines if windows was installed first.
[12:52] <CaptainFrisbee> roxygirl, yep dvd-slideshow isn't very userfriendly
[12:52] <Xonnel> PriceChild, don;t I need to install the driver too somehow {honestly between my wireless and the graphics card I am getting tiered of this OS}
[12:52] <Xonnel> fast
[12:52] <PriceChild> Xonnel, it should be installed already, just not activated maybe
[12:52] <PriceChild> Xonnel, what driver does it say its using currently?
[12:53] <osxdude|lap> this computer does not boot windows AND NEVER WILL AGAIN
[12:53] <osxdude|lap> oops wrong channel
[12:53] <velko> Draconicus, "dpkg -S bcm43xx.ko" to find out which package contains this file (if it was installed trough the repos). and then reinstall the package
[12:53] <Xonnel> PriceChild: Vesa
[12:53] <Dezine> Hi, I have Photoshop installed and I need to use "alt+click" but doing so grabs the program, how can I disable that?
[12:54] <PriceChild> Xonnel, change it to savage (should work)... and restart X If it fails, ctrl+alt+f1, log in and edit the file there using nano
[12:54] <Thomsen> Dezine: try shift+alt+click
[12:54] <CaptainFrisbee> roxygirl, if your dvd player can show jpg files, then you can use picase to create a gift 'cd/dvd', but there won't be any dvd-menus
[12:54] <Xonnel> ok - thanks a ton. back in a bit
[12:55] <Dezine> Nope, still grabs
[12:55] <Dezine> I'll pock around photoshops keyboard shortcut settings, maybe I can change it
[12:55] <Dezine> poke*
[12:56] <Juhaz> Dezine, you can change the key metacity uses for moving windows in preferences->windows
[12:56] <d9gk> will updates installed on the livecd be included in the installtion?
[12:56] <ramvi> Ive got AWN svn, but no reflection effect. How come?
[12:57] <MartijnK> Hi, I want to copy my /home dir to a new disk which is mounted at /media/disk. If i use the command "sudo cp /home/ /media/disk" I get the error / notice: "cp: omitting directory `/home/'"... What am I doing wrong? Thanks!
[12:57] <velko> MartijnK, the option -R
[12:57] <Dezine> thanks Juhaz, strangly now the program doesn't seem to know I'm clicking.
[12:57] <Thomsen> Hi all, I have a problem with my wireless. Everytime I boot up, I need to restart the network (/etc/init.d/networking restart) 1, time to get a signal and again 1 or 2 times to get an IP. How can I avoid that?
[12:57] <CaptainFrisbee> roxygirl, if you want to create a slideshow that plays on all dvd-players then dvd-slideshow will work best. But it's a lot of work.
[12:57] <roxygirl> thompsen: well maybe i can create a slideshow with digikam then use qdvd to make menu's and piece it together, add music, etc?  b/c the qslideshow keeps crashing
[12:58] <fsckr> how do i change my font type in my panels?
[12:58] <roxygirl> captainfrisbee:  arghh...i do want a slideshow w/ music that plays on all dvd-players but i DON"t want all the work.
[12:58] <MartijnK> velko: thanks :)
[12:58] <slow_> could anyone tell me how to install suna java?
[12:58] <roxygirl> captainfrisbee:  i don't understand why qdvdauthor and qslideshow keep crashing...any insight into that?  they appear to be the type of programs i want to use
[12:59] <d9gk> slow_: see ubuntuguide.org
[12:59] <Pici> !java | slow_
[12:59] <ubotu> slow_: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[12:59] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone know of a good guide for setting up compiz-fusion
[12:59] <CaptainFrisbee> roxygirl, are there any errormessages? Try starting them from a terminal
[12:59] <Jordan_U_> Martinp23, You might also want to use the -a option ( archive )
[12:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: I just lost all respect...
[12:59] <zerokill88> Why doesnt IRC have some form of voice chat?
[01:00] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow, lol
[01:00] <Dezine> Awesome stuff though, I got Photoshop cs working. I hope to learn a lot more with GIMP but in the mean time it's awesome because I don't have to run Windows in VWware which is too slow for me.
[01:00] <zerokill88> Dezine have you tried VirtualBox?
[01:00] <ukine-server> clearzen, got grub on where it should be but it didn't detect windows because the ntfs boot sector got overwritten
[01:00] <Juhaz> Dezine, well, I'm certainly not an expert on windows software, try logging out and back, maybe it still thinks the combo is reserved
[01:00] <ukine-server> by grub before
[01:01] <roxygirl> captainfrisbee: no error messages, just asks if i want to force quit or wait.  both end up in crashing.   how do i start it from a terminal?  (I'm new to linux)
[01:01] <Dezine> Juhaz I got it running in wine so maybe it's just a side affect of sorts
[01:01] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow, gota try it, and my sis's fella would like me to set it up for him...so I fiqure i may aswell try it first
[01:01] <Dezine> no zero.. haven't I'll look into it
[01:01] <ubuntu_> anyone know any good universities in the US that have majors in software programming and computer engineering?
[01:01] <zerokill88> Dezine its ten times better then VmWare. VmWare is crap in my opinion
[01:01] <LostAndConfused> When someone gets a chance I would really appreciate it if they could help me figure out why I can boot into ubuntu using the recovery mode but not boot into it regularly
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Just kidding with you.. does look cool.. Just not my thing..  You can try #ubuntu-effects
[01:02] <Dezine> Well it runs ok for me but it runs too slowly to work with
[01:02] <imbecile> ok, i added ubuntustudio repo how do i install it from there? I want the whole thing
[01:02] <osxdude|lap> Paddy_EIRE: I have ubuntu on this laptop  now
[01:02] <Dezine> Feels like a constant lag
[01:02] <CaptainFrisbee> roxygirl, first start a terminal: Applications->accessories->Terminal
[01:02] <brizi> hello i need some help with a modem issue
[01:02] <osxdude|lap> Paddy_EIRE: it's great on this comp...much better than windows
[01:02] <Paddy_EIRE> osxdude|lap, nice one :D
[01:02] <dissection> velko: Any CLI players that does not show too much information, like the CPU info, and all that? I need one that only plays the audio and shows nothing else so that I can use it with irssi
[01:02] <brizi> i purchased the linuxant drivers for my laptops ATI modem
[01:03] <Paddy_EIRE> osxdude|lap, is it feisty you are using?
[01:03] <osxdude|lap> Paddy_EIRE: thanks :P and yes
[01:03] <CaptainFrisbee> roxygirl, and then type the name of the program
[01:03] <clearzen> LostAndConfused: what error does it give you when you try to boot into ubuntu normally?
[01:03] <brizi> the installer went fine and now im not sure what else to do
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> LostAndConfused: DId it ever work?  Does it kick you back to the login prompt.?
[01:03] <velko> dissection, "aplay -q myfile"
[01:03] <brizi> i went under network properties for my modem and added the dialup phone number and such
[01:04] <osxdude|lap> Paddy_EIRE: the reason why the Desktop CD did not work right was because the CD itself was scratched like hell
[01:04] <ubuntu_> anyone know how to alter linux kernel files
[01:04] <brizi> but i get no dialtone...is there a command i can issue to see if my modem is detected?
[01:04] <Paddy_EIRE> osxdude|lap, ah, I see
[01:04] <roxygirl> captainfrisbee:  ok, i'll try that.  how does running it from the terminal change things?
[01:04] <imbecile> anyone, i have added ubuntustudio repo.. is this the correct way to install? sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio ?
[01:04] <Paddy_EIRE> osxdude|lap, have you requested some cds from shipit
[01:04] <CaptainFrisbee> roxygirl, you will be able to see all kinds of errormessages from the application
[01:05] <brizi> anyone at all?
[01:05] <clearzen> brizi: lspci
[01:05] <brizi> it shows the 2 files that are support said is suppose ot be there
[01:06] <Paddy_EIRE> imbecile, the forums have a great article on that very thing
[01:06] <dissection> velko: Just tried that. It displays more than 50 lines after the file is played
[01:06] <brizi> hsfengine and hsfserial
[01:06] <brizi> but i ahve no dialtone
[01:06] <roxygirl> captainFrisbee: ok, cool.  thanks alot
[01:06] <Dezine> imbecile look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/UpgradingFromFeisty
[01:06] <dr_fate> gobuntu is not gutsy right?
[01:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !dialup
[01:06] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[01:06] <dr_fate> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/gobuntu/daily/current/
[01:07] <dissection> velko: Never mind, it worked with another file. Not sure why the first file I played showed all that junk in terminal
[01:07] <N[i] X> can anybody tell me when i use the make command i get this on some files "make: *** [install]  Error 2
[01:07] <LostAndConfused9> sorry if someone tried to help me I got disconnected
[01:07] <nickrud> N[i] X, your real error comes several lines above that
[01:07] <Jack_Sparrow> LostAndConfused: DId it ever work?  Does it kick you back to the login prompt.?
[01:07] <Dezine> Gobuntu is a separate ubuntu dist.
[01:08] <N[i] X> nickrud: where do i find it?
[01:08] <LostAndConfused9> It never worked.  I don't get to a login prompt my screen just stays black
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> LostAndConfused: Are you using feisty...   Maybe on a Dell?
[01:08] <UbunVIA> Hey sorry to interupt
[01:08] <LostAndConfused9> Feisty on a homemade comp
[01:08] <nickrud> N[i] X, somewhere above there, it'll say error, you just have to read all the output. It could be anything
[01:09] <UbunVIA> I need a little help if possible
[01:09] <ianmcorvidae> !ask | UbunVIA
[01:09] <ubotu> UbunVIA: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:09] <N[i] X> nickrud: I did, the only thing i find is Werror
[01:10] <trwww> my dellbuntu order is 3 weeks from order to ship and its only been a week... getting anxious :-)
[01:10] <threethirty> hello all
[01:10] <Dezine> Hola
[01:10] <nickrud> N[i] X, then that will give you an indication of the error. Welcome to programming :)
[01:10] <UbunVIA> I was searching the forums, and everyone talks about VIA not having Drivers for the Unichrome9, Well, on the 11th of this Month, they released them. The problem is that I cant deciper how do install it, and "develope" a kernel, there are other methods, but i dont really understand, im trying to get away from windows.. so any ideas?
[01:10] <N[i] X> nickrud: make[1] : jw: Command not found
[01:10] <velko> LostAndConfused9, any error messages? try to pass the option "quiet" to the kernel in order to see the kenerl messages
[01:10] <N[i] X> nickrud: i think im missing some package
[01:11] <threethirty> is there anyone interested in answering a couple of questions I have about wubi?
[01:11] <UbunVIA> I also get a Bios error upon boot, that i feel is related to the video card.
[01:11] <Jack_Sparrow> LostAndConfused: I gotta run, someone here will be able to help, Let them know if you get to the start install screen, if you have tried F6 and options like noapic nolapic etc...Dual booting, raid and any other info.
[01:11] <LostAndConfused9> Not that I am seeing the screen goes black black let me try that now though
[01:11] <astro76> N[i] X, if you type jw in a terminal, it will tell you what package to install to get it
[01:11] <nickrud> N[i] X, install docbook-utils
[01:11] <Dogge> How do you get nvidia settings to show a resolution i want (1280x1024) and with a 75hz update
[01:12] <UbunVIA> the 2nd part of the Q, how do i play AO on Ubuntu?
[01:12] <LostAndConfused9> I was able to install fiesty fawn I just can't run it without going to recovery mode
[01:12] <CaptainFrisbee> Dogge, I had the same problem
[01:12] <bulmer> N[i] X: make is not necessarily for programming.. its like a script but harder :)  anyhow..where did you get the Makefile and for which program this is for?
[01:12] <CaptainFrisbee> Dogge, but how did I solve it again?
[01:12] <LostAndConfused9> Thanks Jack for the help
[01:12] <UbunVIA> anyone? i feel like im bering impatient, but i am really frustrated and on the virge of putting XP back on the notebook
[01:13] <velko> LostAndConfused9, how does look like the entry for the normal boot in /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[01:13] <Thomsen> Dogge: Preferences->Screen reslolution won't do?
[01:13] <N[i] X> bulmer: im setting up Security Enhanced Linux onto ubuntu. I got the makefiles off the National Security Agency's website
[01:13] <Dezine> UbunVIA do you mean America's Army?
[01:13] <Dogge> yes it would but i have tried to put in more resolutons there
[01:13] <UbunVIA> no Anarchy Online
[01:13] <LostAndConfused9> Velko what do you mean?
[01:13] <Dezine> oh
[01:13] <Dogge> and it even is more resolutions avalible in xorg.conf
[01:14] <UbunVIA> I was searching the forums, and everyone talks about VIA not having Drivers for the Unichrome9, Well, on the 11th of this Month, they released them. The problem is that I cant deciper how do install it, and "develope" a kernel, there are other methods, but i dont really understand, im trying to get away from windows.. so any ideas?
[01:14] <Thomsen> Dogge: Okay, then I don't know
[01:14] <Dogge> what was your tip
[01:14] <Dogge> i dont know how to get 75 hz
[01:14] <Dogge> too
[01:14] <CaptainFrisbee> Dogge, my refresh rate is actually set to 50Hz using System->Preferences->Screen Resolutions. And I get 85Hz
[01:14] <Dogge> well i get like 60 hz
[01:15] <CaptainFrisbee> Dogge, can you set it to a really low value?
[01:15] <velko> LostAndConfused9, the file /boot/grub/menu.lst controlls the list you see while booting (normal or recovery mode). it lists the options which will be passed to the kernel when you select the corresponding entry
[01:15] <Dogge> nope 50 is the lowest
[01:15] <UbunVIA> Can anyone help me? in a pm,
[01:15] <Thomsen> Dogge: I think you'll need to get the exact v-sync and h-sync of your monitor and put those in xorg.conf
[01:15] <CaptainFrisbee> Dogge, try 50hz
[01:15] <Xonnel> OK - this Linux stuff sucks!
[01:15] <Dogge> and you might not know the hsync and vsync for 75 hz
[01:15] <Dogge> or 85 hz
[01:15] <[R] > i dont see torrent downloads on the main ubuntu website... is there an unofficial torrent somewherE?
[01:15] <Dogge> both will do
[01:15] <Xonnel> how many hours does it take to load a driver and get wireless working!!!
[01:16] <Draconicus> Xonnel: Welcome to my world. Broadcom? :P
[01:16] <CaptainFrisbee> !wireless
[01:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:16] <Xonnel> Yeah!! and S3 graphics
[01:16] <zerokill88> does anyone know how if your machine at work is running remote software, how do i access that machine through their local network? dont ihave to go through some kind of gatewa or router first wich is a different i.p. then the machine on the local network?
[01:16] <UbunVIA> !help
[01:16] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:16] <dem0n> how do i set an ftp server up
[01:16] <dem0n> ?
[01:16] <dem0n> !help ftp server
[01:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help ftp server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:16] <Xonnel> I'm going back to WinXP !!!
[01:16] <dem0n> haha
[01:16] <WaxyFresh> does anyone know how i can figure out how linux decides what a programs process id number is?
[01:16] <UbunVIA> !help VIA
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[01:16] <LostAndConfused9> velko the options  (and I am assuming you mean everything after the root=UUID) are ro quiet splash for the regular bootup and ro single for recovery mode
[01:16] <Draconicus> Xonnel: Hee. My friend is having the same problem right now. Don't feel bad. I've been doing this for three years. Broadcom has a very odd way of handling wireless hardware. It's not our fault. Yell at broadcom if you're angry.
[01:16] <WaxyFresh> Xonnel: are you a sadist?
[01:16] <Pici> !ftpd > dem0n (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[01:17] <kitche> [R] : http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[01:17] <Xonnel> I'd used up all my XP lics so I thought I would load up Ubuntu instead
[01:17] <velko> LostAndConfused9, ok. remove quiet and splash from the normal boot line and reboot. this way you'll see the kernel messages and where it stops loading
[01:17] <jahid_> hi, if i mount my ntfs drive then its only opened as read only. can you tell me how can i make it read and write only? i used -----> sudo mount /dev/sda5 /home/jahid/windrives/d -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=000
[01:17] <[R] > kitche: thanks
[01:18] <Draconicus> Xonnel: You have unfortunately had bad luck in choosing your laptop. Broadcom makes the weird chipset that everyone hates because it's very, very hard to decipher.
[01:18] <Xonnel> man - how much work it has taken
[01:18] <bulmer> zerokill88: you can usually find out the process via ps -aux.  And yes you have to go through a gateway
[01:18] <UbunVIA> Can someone check this link, and tell me how to do this..
[01:18] <UbunVIA> http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=45&CatID=3220&SubCatID=185
[01:18] <nickrud> !ntfs-3g | jahid_
[01:18] <ubotu> jahid_: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[01:18] <Draconicus> Xonnel: It. Is. Not. Linux's. Fault. 'kay?
[01:18] <Xonnel> I managed to get the g54 card working after learning a bit about ndiswrapper.
[01:18] <Draconicus> Xonnel: Quit ranting about how horrible you think Linux is and start complaining about how retarded broadcom cards are.
[01:18] <WaxyFresh> Xonnel: wallmart has a 29$usb wireless card that is much less painfull then winddo$e
[01:18] <jahid_> NickGarvey, ubotu, thanks
[01:18] <LostAndConfused9> velko what does the single do?
[01:19] <kitche> UbunVia: download the file
[01:19] <UbunVIA> please if you think you can help me, join VIAhelp
[01:19] <pipatron> Hey guys, can I safely 'apt-get install lilo' without it trying to replace grub?
[01:19] <Draconicus> Xonnel: WaxyFresh is correct. Simply getting a different wireless card would make everything a breeze. S3 graphics shouldn't be complicated. Dunno what your problem is there.
[01:19] <pipatron> I just need the command so I can install lilo on other devices
[01:19] <LostAndConfused9> ok now it worked
[01:19] <UbunVIA> i cant, im on my desktop right now, running xp
[01:19] <wckdkl0wn> how do i cd to a directory in terminal that has a space in the folder name?
[01:19] <UbunVIA> its a .tar
[01:19] <Draconicus> pipatron: Why lilo? grub-install will work on anything.
[01:19] <UbunVIA> my ubuntu is crashed
[01:19] <velko> LostAndConfused9, it puts you in "single user mode". the equivalent of "telinit 1". only the root user is allowed to log in. no graphics and no additional drivers
[01:20] <pipatron> wckdkl0wn: Use "\ " for example
[01:20] <nickrud> pipatron, according to it's description it doesn't conflict with grub
[01:20] <shelia_> Hello everyone I am new to linux, and haven't figured out this new program
[01:20] <pipatron> Draconicus: Trust me.
[01:20] <CaptainFrisbee> wckdkl0wn, or use TAB completion
[01:20] <kitche> UbunVIA: your point being winrar can open .gz and tars up
[01:20] <lethologica> I am trying to get swat up and running, it isn't listening on port 901 though, how can I figure out why?
[01:20] <michael__> Hi!!!!
[01:20] <Draconicus> pipatron: Okie dokie. You are trusted. No explain yourself. :P
[01:20] <LostAndConfused9> velko that worked.  I was able to login.  Yay!!! You rule!
[01:20] <wckdkl0wn> CaptainFrisbee, ok that worked ty
[01:20] <kitche> UbunVIA: since the file tells you how ot install it it's only a README.pdf file
[01:20] <UbunVIA> I have looked at the file, 10000 times
[01:20] <Xonnel> Is a bit why gen folks are not keen on linux - driver support and all that
[01:20] <shelia_> hello michael
[01:20] <UbunVIA> im asking, how do i do it
[01:20] <UbunVIA> i cant get it to work
[01:20] <UbunVIA> i get some shitty errors, and it talkes about building a kernel
[01:20] <pipatron> Draconicus: I'm installing some distros on USB-sticks, and some of them needs lilo for their installation scripts.
[01:20] <pipatron> Draconicus: I either install lilo, or rewrite the scripts.
[01:20] <michael__> Anyone here run Cedega and warcraft 3?
[01:21] <Pici> UbunVIA: Can you link us to the howto you read?
[01:21] <velko> LostAndConfused9, hmm - i was prepared for debugging a problem. what happened? why are you able to log in now?
[01:21] <bulmer> shelia_: what program?
[01:21] <michael__> I love ubuntu! compiz is so awesome
[01:21] <UbunVIA> this is it
[01:21] <UbunVIA> http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=45&CatID=3220&SubCatID=185
[01:21] <Draconicus> pipatron: I know. Install lilo temporarily on your machine. /boot/grub/menu.list will always be there when you reinstall grub. You can make a backup if you're worried.
[01:21] <pipatron> michael__: If you think compiz is awesome, you should try beryl!
[01:21] <pipatron> michael__: It's totally super-awesome, dude!
[01:21] <shelia_> I have been trying to get my limewire to work, and it won't
[01:21] <kitche> UbunVIA: which video do you have?
[01:21] <Xonnel> I'm from a AIX/Solaris backgroud so ok - just tiered of reading readmes!
[01:21] <UbunVIA> then it tells you to get the Source files, for ubuntu linux for the drivers
[01:21] <wepeel> Hey all, I have a "fix" to pass along
[01:21] <michael__> I thought Beryl is no longer in production???
[01:21] <dem0n> gmm
[01:21] <dem0n> hmm
[01:21] <Draconicus> pipatron: Mind a PM?
[01:21] <dem0n> that still didnt work
[01:21] <LostAndConfused9> maybe I was just being a little impatient.  Maybe the splash screen caused a problem.  I don't really know and am perplexed.  Going to try a reboot to make sure this isn't a fluke and also time the startup
[01:21] <michael__> and compiz is still being developed
[01:22] <UbunVIA> VIA Unichrome9 HC
[01:22] <michael__> compiz runs so smooth
[01:22] <Draconicus> michael__: I'll explain. Don't worry.
[01:22] <Draconicus> There's no point in bickering about a lost fight.
[01:22] <dem0n> Can some one help me with and ftpd pm me please
[01:22] <wepeel> been having trouble with my laptop on 6.10 not wanting to scan for wireless networks, removed network-manager and installed wicd and now everything's great. just in case anyone has the same problem
[01:22] <Xonnel> I do have a question if anyone can help?
[01:22] <bulmer> shelia_: what have you done so far? btw prefix your responses with a nick so you can direct it
[01:22] <CaptainFrisbee> !ask | Xonnel
[01:22] <ubotu> Xonnel: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:22] <wckdkl0wn> can someone help me out with a little bit of trouble i am having in following a tut on photoshop cs2 in linux??
[01:22] <michael__>  haha, nice ubotu
[01:22] <pipatron> Draconicus: Too late, already apt-get it, and it looks kinda bad :)
[01:22] <shelia_> yes i have
[01:23] <Xonnel> Is there a way to get to a screen to configure the graphics card and monitor refresh rates/types?
[01:23] <dem0n> Can some one please help me with ftpd please pm me
[01:23] <wckdkl0wn> i dont understand this step  sudo wine /*To create the wine file structure*/
[01:23] <trwww> dem0n: you should use sftp for file transfers
[01:23] <wepeel> Xonnel, system preferences screen resolution
[01:23] <velko> michael__, ubotu is a program and gets triggered by ! at the line start followed by a word
[01:23] <wepeel> Xonnel, that's for refresh
[01:24] <nickrud> Xonnel, or sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:24] <UbunVIA> !VIA
[01:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about via - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:24] <UbunVIA> !URANUS
[01:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uranus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:24] <trwww> dem0n: is ssh installed on the machine?
[01:24] <WaxyFresh> i know on kubuntu if you have duel cpus in a laptop you need to right click on the battery and tell it to use both to thier fullest extent or else it will try to conserve on power by cutting back on cpu usage,is there a simaler thing on ubuntu
[01:24] <dem0n> yes
[01:24] <wckdkl0wn> so i skipped it thinking that wine was setup properly but i get this error when i try to run photoshop  wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\\2013winver.exe": Module not found
[01:24] <UbunVIA> lmao
[01:24] <astro76> wckdkl0wn, I'm thinking they mean winecfg, you need to run it before you run wine the first time
[01:24] <eldkraft> I would lile to disable my wifi and 'ifconfig ra0 down' simply won't do it because when I restart the wifi is there again. any suggestions?
[01:24] <Xonnel> wepeel, I only get 800x600 as the xorg.conf is set to generic card and monitor. Have a S3 card in this T22
[01:24] <wepeel> nickrud, I just had an awful flashback to the days where I had to configure x11 by hand :(
[01:24] <jahid_> NickGarvey, ubotu, I tried that to mount. but i am tired of that software
[01:24] <Xonnel> Had changed to savage but it failed to restart
[01:24] <astro76> wckdkl0wn, run winecfg, not sudo winecfg
[01:24] <jahid_> i want to mount it manually
[01:25] <jahid_> can anyone tell me, how can i mount ntfs drive?
[01:25] <CaptainFrisbee> Xonnel, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:25] <grigora> anyone knows how to get skype working on ubuntu? my microphone definitely works, but I can't get passed the test where you are supposed to record and hear your own voice. thanks
[01:25] <CaptainFrisbee> ntfs! | jahid_
[01:25] <nickrud> wepeel, this is nicer: I did my first on linux from scratch years ago. Had do compile the darned thing, too
[01:25] <wepeel> Xonnel, take others' advice and make sure you've go tthe right drivel loaded
[01:25] <UbunVIA> Xonnel: VIA and S3 released linux drivers on the 16th
[01:25] <CaptainFrisbee> jahid_, is your program compiling now?
[01:26] <jahid_> CaptainFrisbee, no
[01:26] <dem0n> trwww: check pm
[01:26] <brizi> is there anyone around can answer a question about modems?
[01:26] <wepeel> nickrud, yep. Ubuntu is the first linux distro I've stuck with because everything worked pretty ok without me having to mess with it too much
[01:26] <CaptainFrisbee> jahid_, still errrors?
[01:26] <trwww> jahid_: mount -t smbfs -o username=Administrator,password=xxxxxx //host/c /mnt/host
[01:26] <velko> brizi, this surely depends on the question
[01:26] <jahid_> CaptainFrisbee, nooo, i am talking about mounting ntfs hdd
[01:26] <nickrud> wepeel, stuck with debian for a few years, but this is a nice derivative ;)
[01:26] <obf213> i need some help with my recording device
[01:26] <brizi> velko, i recently purchased the HSF drivers from linuxant and installed them
[01:26] <obf213> i get his error
[01:26] <kitche> UbunVIA: I can't find the prebuilt driver at all on there site
[01:26] <wckdkl0wn> astro76,  this is the tut i am following  http://luiscosio.com/how-to-adobe-photoshop-cs2-on-ubuntu-10-steps
[01:26] <obf213> confaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat: Could not open resource for writin
[01:27] <wepeel> UbunVIA, so motherboards with onboard VIA graphics chips should be ok from here on out?
[01:27] <brizi> the install went fine but I have no dialtone
[01:27] <nickrud> brizi, didn't the page you were directed to help?
[01:27] <dem0n> Trwww you there
[01:27] <UbunVIA> wepeel: thats the jist i get, but no one wants to help me install it because im a nub, and i cant real unix / linux
[01:27] <brizi> was i directed to a page?
[01:27] <UbunVIA> http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=45&CatID=3220&SubCatID=185
[01:27] <jahid_> trwww, i used sudo mount /dev/sda5 /home/jahid/windrives/d -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=000, can you tell me where is ther problem here?
[01:27] <UbunVIA> read that
[01:27] <UbunVIA> read
[01:27] <kitche> UbunVIA: find the binary driver then I'll help you
[01:28] <kitche> UbunVIA: that not the binary that's just a readme file
[01:28] <trwww> dem0n: pm not working
[01:28] <UbunVIA> ok join VIAhelp
[01:28] <nickrud> !dialup | brizi this one:
[01:28] <ubotu> brizi this one:: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[01:28] <UbunVIA> plz
[01:28] <astro76> wckdkl0wn, yeah, replace sudo wine with winecfg, which makes the ~/.wine directory
[01:28] <LostAndConfused9> velko I put back the quiet splash and waited 3 times the amount of time it took to start back up and didn't see anything onthe screen.  I then took off the quiet, same thing.  I am going to take off just the splash and see what that does
[01:28] <dem0n> trwww: you have aim or yahoo
[01:28] <UbunVIA> kitche: I have the link, join VIAhelp please
[01:28] <brizi> i have read those howtos....i need the command that makes ur modem scream at u when it is put into a terminal
[01:28] <wckdkl0wn> astro76, the wine directory was already made though.. well i ran winecfg and have it set to windows xp
[01:28] <velko> LostAndConfused9, go ahead
[01:29] <brizi> its like ATZ or something
[01:29] <trwww> jahid_: I had to use samba to mount
[01:29] <wepeel> nickrud, man, I tried every 7.x distro available a few years back each one had its own stupid, but essential, inconcistency that I just couldn't justify wasting my time on. Now, everything is ok, though
[01:29] <Thomsen> jahid: You're not using the ntfs-3g drivber
[01:29] <nickrud> brizi, what I used for testing my modem was the program minicom, and I'd type atdt into it
[01:29] <wepeel> nickrud, by 7.x I mean Redhat, mandrake etc
[01:29] <obf213> can anyone help me fix my recording so it works
[01:29] <wckdkl0wn> astro76,  but i still get this error   wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\\2013winver.exe": Module not found
[01:29] <brizi> how do i get minicom?
[01:29] <jahid_> trwww, i want to mount local drive. so i dont need samba
[01:29] <UbunVIA> kitche: http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=25&CatID=2580&SubCatID=185
[01:29] <nickrud> wepeel, yeah, that was my starting timeframe also, but switch to debian in 2001
[01:29] <UbunVIA> check that link
[01:29] <obf213> ii keep getting this error in sound preferences when i test my recording
[01:29] <obf213> confaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat: Could not open resource for writin
[01:29] <nickrud> brizi, sudo apt-get install minicom
[01:30] <pchilds> has anyone experienced temporary operating system lockups with feisty?  I am curious for it was getting bad for me for about a week then updates came today and it seems the problem has corrected itself. Not sure what the problem was but happy the updates put an end to it.
[01:30] <jahid_> Thomsen, i tried to use that
[01:30] <isaacmk> hi everyone
[01:30] <wepeel> obf213, install the newest ALSA driver
[01:30] <isaacmk> im having an issue with updating
[01:30] <brizi> ok i have minicom installing now
[01:30] <isaac_> I need assistance with samba.  when i start up my server, it says something to the effect of "launching samba daemons.   [FAILED] "  this is my first time doing samba so i really dont know much about it
[01:30] <jahid_> Thomsen, but doesn't let me mount my drives on another location rather den /meida/....
[01:30] <kitche> UbunVIA: I have that I m trying to find the prebuilt dirver that they have already it makes it a lot easier
[01:30] <obf213> wepeel
[01:30] <dem0n> trwww if i start vnc can you help me?
[01:30] <obf213> synaptic?
[01:30] <isaacmk> no
[01:30] <isaacmk> system update
[01:30] <isaacmk> telling me that i cant connect
[01:30] <LostAndConfused9> velko The splash was the cause of my problem ubuntu can now load
[01:30] <nickrud> wepeel, I installed debian, looked at that command line, then ran mandrake while I learned with lfs until I understood enough to get by
[01:30] <wepeel> obf213, do a search for your error message in the Ubuntu forums, you'll find a post telling you how to do it
[01:30] <isaacmk> but my internet is working
[01:30] <Thomsen> jahid: That might be a permission problem then
[01:30] <pacoloco> hola people
[01:31] <UbunVIA> kitche: Dated the 17th of this month, I think i made a landmark discovery if this works..
[01:31] <Thomsen> Jahid: What does it tell you when you try to mount?
[01:31] <wepeel> obf213, you can't do it via aptitude...let me see if I can find the post again
[01:31] <dem0n> trwww: if i start vnc can you help?
[01:31] <UbunVIA> Kitche: Im re-installing Ubuntu as we speak, so i can do a fresh install word for word
[01:31] <LostAndConfused9> velko thanks for all the help.  But now I am just really curious why splash caused it to fail
[01:31] <trwww> dem0n: aol - Jodeci99
[01:31] <brizi> ok nickrud can u give me a clue how to use minicom?
[01:31] <dem0n> what?
[01:31] <dem0n> oh
[01:32] <isaacmk> Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[01:32] <nickrud> brizi, installing it. My memory is not the best :)
[01:32] <astro76> wckdkl0wn, I don't know sorry
[01:32] <isaacmk> this is the message that im getting when i try to ipdate
[01:32] <isaacmk> anyone help?
[01:32] <brizi> yeah i have it installed now
[01:32] <velko> LostAndConfused9, i'm happy that it now works. but have no idea why the splash gets in the way. i don't even use ubuntu
[01:32] <isaac_> I need assistance with samba.  when i start up my server, it says something to the effect of "launching samba daemons.   [FAILED] "  this is my first time doing samba so i really dont know much about it
[01:32] <brizi> sudo minicom
[01:32] <grigora> anyone knows why my microphone works, but skype doesn't pick it up?
[01:32] <LostAndConfused9> velko well no matter what you rule.  thanks
[01:32] <nickrud> brizi, sudo minicom to start it
[01:32] <LostAndConfused9> see you all later have a good day/night
[01:33] <astro76> wckdkl0wn, I'd probably try the latest wine from http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[01:33] <brizi> yup got that
[01:33] <pchilds> Yea later because it seems there are enough issues in here today for the experienced people to help work with. Have a great day everybody.
[01:33] <brizi> its running...but now where do i enter commands?
[01:33] <wepeel> obf213, look at post 12 on that link I msged you
[01:34] <grigora> anyone uses skype on ubuntu?
[01:34] <wepeel> obf213, and give that a try
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[01:34] <nickrud> brizi, ok, hit ctl-a z o
[01:34] <fie> arf
[01:34] <dissection> heh
[01:34] <harrison> Goddamn. What was that about?
[01:35] <nickrud> idioten
[01:35] <matysek> mass highlight :D
[01:35] <askand> Someone please say a tool I can measure boot time with?
[01:35] <isaacmk> anyone?
[01:35] <wepeel> askand, a watchj?
[01:35] <isaacmk> i thought this was supposed to be a helpful community
[01:35] <Pici> askand: bootchart
[01:35] <isaacmk> i feel like im panhandling without a cup
[01:35] <Thomsen> jahid_: What does it tell you when you try to mount elsewhere?
[01:35] <Phlosten> askand: bootchart
[01:35] <Pici> askand: it generates images mapping the boot time.
[01:35] <PriceChild> !patience | isaacmk
[01:35] <ubotu> isaacmk: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:35] <isaacmk> ah
[01:35] <isaacmk> thank you
[01:35] <nickrud> brizi, there yet? you should see a configuration dialog
[01:36] <kitche> Amaranth: glad you banned the host sicne he was in here twice as FOOss and Abobo
[01:36] <isaacmk> price and ubotu
[01:36] <brizi> yup i see it
[01:36] <isaacmk> i was polite i thought...sorry if i came off brusque
[01:36] <askand> Pici: hmm does it affect the boottime itself?
[01:36] <grimboy> Heh, FOOss put their self on their 'fag list'.
[01:36] <brizi> i went to modem is that right?
[01:36] <wepeel> grimboy, haha
[01:36] <Pici> askand: Not that I'm aware of. Its pretty widely used to time boots.
[01:36] <nickrud> brizi, mention my name when you type, it shows red and sings; and no, you need to set the serial port first
[01:36] <UbunVIA> Kitche: DCC please?
[01:36] <wepeel> isaacmk, you get a connection refused on iupdate?
[01:37] <brizi> ahhh ok cool
[01:37] <jahid_> Thomsen, if i try to put a differnt location, it gives an error like this----> /home/jahid/windrives/e contains an invalid caracter.
[01:37] <jahid_> you must choose a name, not a directory.
[01:37] <leagris> Pici, what is fag list ?
[01:37] <cannibal`_> rawr
[01:37] <Pici> leagris: Excuse me?
[01:37] <nickrud> brizi, hit A and enter your serial port device. your install instructions should have given that
[01:37] <headmonkey> is this cerealbowl dork spamming you guys ?
[01:37] <UbunVIA> do you think the Zonbu would play Anarchy Online?
[01:37] <brizi> nickrud ok i set the serial to /dev/modem
[01:37] <askand> Pici: ok thanks!
[01:37] <nickrud> brizi, then hit escape until you see the original screen
[01:37] <rbrunhuber> How do i configure hotswap support on Dell Inspiron 8600?
[01:38] <isaacmk> yes weepel
[01:38] <grigora> where is gnome-volume-control?
[01:38] <PriceChild> leagris, that was a nasty spammer, please ignore him.
[01:38] <wepeel> isaacm, *sigh* I mean update? When you click on the update icon in the toolbar by the clock?
[01:38] <isaacmk> here is the error message "Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)"
[01:38] <isaacmk> yes
[01:38] <cannibal`_> anyone had any success running anything other than photoshop 7 on 7.04?
[01:38] <brizi> nickrud i am back where i hit ctrla z o
[01:38] <headmonkey> PriceChild, did you kick him ?
[01:38] <headmonkey> PriceChild, he's been in ##linux 3 times now
[01:38] <nickrud> brizi, if your setup is good, atdt should get some response
[01:39] <velko> grigora, right click on the volume control in the panel and select "open volume control" from the drop down menu
[01:39] <nickrud> brizi, ath to hang up
[01:39] <cannibal`_> haha
[01:39] <cannibal`_> abobo smash!
[01:39] <CaptainFrisbee> jahid_, Here is a good guide on using ntfs3g: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G
[01:39] <wepeel> isaacmk, what happens when you right click on the update icon go to preferences and look at download from
[01:39] <brizi> nickrud i just type atdt?
[01:39] <Xonnel> CaptainFrisbee: thanks - that is what I am after - have reconfig'd. There a quick way to reboot X11?
[01:39] <UbunVIA> Kitche: Any luck?
[01:40] <WaxyFresh> i know on kubuntu if you have duel cpus in a laptop you need to right click on the battery and tell it to use both to thier fullest extent or else it will try to conserve on power by cutting back on cpu usage,is there a simaler thing on ubuntu?
[01:40] <brizi> nickrud when i type atdt i get nothing...doesnt even show me typing
[01:40] <scotty> Whoah. What was with the mass ping?
[01:40] <astro76> Xonnel, ctrl+alt+backspace to restart X
[01:40] <lorx> Hey. Is there a way to disable the "suspend button" on my keyboard? (Logitech) The problem is when its being used, the computer just simply crashes.
[01:40] <nickrud> brizi, ok, does /dev/modem exist?
[01:40] <brizi> nickrud yes that is what the HSF installer set as my sym link
[01:40] <isaacmk> custom servers weepel
[01:40] <wepeel> isaacmk, whatever is in there, click and change it and try again. And you're currently connected to the internet via the same box you're having problems with, right?
[01:41] <Beyond_The_Grave> OK how do you delete a massive amount of files named the same thing in a folder?
[01:41] <isaacmk> yes
[01:41] <wepeel> isaacmk, change to Main server or Us server or something
[01:41] <isaacmk> ok, ill try that
[01:41] <Thomsen> jahid_: Have you applied all updates to Ubuntu?
[01:41] <velko> Beyond_The_Grave, huh?
[01:42] <jahid_> Thomsen, well, i did all of those that my OS asked me. But i didnt run any update manually
[01:42] <brizi> nickrud yes i know it exists..it said /dev/modem was the symlink for /dev/ttySHSF0
[01:42] <Pici> Beyond_The_Grave: Use rm and a wildcard.  like rm file*
[01:42] <nickrud> brizi, that was my next question :)
[01:42] <Beyond_The_Grave> I have a whole bunch of files from when I had Windows caleed desktop.ini and Thumbs.dp and I want to get rid of em
[01:42] <Beyond_The_Grave> what's rm do?
[01:42] <wepeel> remove
[01:42] <UbunVIA> Can anyone help me with a video driver install?
[01:42] <brizi> nickrud i just went back in and changed the serial port again to reflectg ttySHSF0
[01:42] <cafuego> Beyond_The_Grave: find . -name desktop.ini -exex rm {} \;
[01:42] <Pici> Beyond_The_Grave: rm = remove.
[01:42] <cafuego> Beyond_The_Grave: Rinse and repear
[01:42] <isaacmk> wepeel
[01:42] <isaacmk> its giving me the same message
[01:43] <Beyond_The_Grave> OK, now how do I get to the folder in the terminal?
[01:43] <isaacmk> i tried custom server, main and us
[01:43] <Beyond_The_Grave> They have spaces though...
[01:43] <brizi> nickrud i think i may be entering the atdt command wrong
[01:43] <Thomsen> jahid_: Ok, I just found some other with the same problem and they solved it by updating
[01:43] <evri2> Do you know how can i increase saturation in Mplayer?
[01:43] <wepeel> isaacmk, weird. Does apt-get work for you?
[01:43] <mzuverink> attempting to instal gallery, from the easylinux.info site works up to the last part, where you type "sudo sh /user/share/gallery/configure.sh"  it says to point browser to localhost/gallery/setup/index.php but the browser comes back 404
[01:43] <isaacmk> whats apt-get?
[01:44] <isaacmk> im fairly new to al this
[01:44] <Pici> !apt | isaacmk
[01:44] <ubotu> isaacmk: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[01:44] <velko> evri2, 7 and 8 keys
[01:44] <jahid_> Thomsen, what or how did they updated?
[01:44] <Beyond_The_Grave> How do I change to a directory that a space in the name?
[01:44] <astro76> cafuego Beyond_The_Grave there's a typo in that command exex= exec :)
[01:44] <WaxyFresh> !apt-get | isaacmk
[01:44] <nickrud> brizi, ate1 (make sure it's echoing), you should get back an ok.
[01:44] <isaac_> isaacmk, just curious.  is the computer u cant get to update the same one your on right now?
[01:44] <isaacmk> yes, it is
[01:44] <isaacmk> very very strange
[01:44] <evri2> velko:Nothing changes
[01:44] <kitche> Beyond_The_Grave: \ rest of path or you cna use " for the full path
[01:44] <isaacmk> i can connect to anything except the ubuntu system updates
[01:44] <brizi> nickrud am i suppose to enter that in minicom?
[01:44] <wepeel> isaacmk, try opening a terminal window and typing in sudo apt-get update
[01:44] <nickrud> brizi, yes
[01:45] <Thomsen> jahid_: I guess "sudo apt-get update" and then "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[01:45] <UbunVIA> kitche: any luck?
[01:45] <kitche> Beyond_The_Grave: the \<space> escapes the space so the shell sees it
[01:45] <velko> evri2, do you use mplayer or gmplayer? start it from the command line by the name "mplayer file"  and try again
[01:45] <wepeel> isaac_, I am wondering the same thing because of the IP
[01:45] <astro76> Beyond_The_Grave, and you might want to test it first by replacing rm with ls
[01:45] <brizi> nickrud my cursor doesnt show me typing anything
[01:45] <mzuverink> anyone know the workings of gallery?
[01:45] <witt> how do I force a package that is broken to be removed so I can try a reinstall?
[01:45] <Pici> mzuverink: Gallery?
[01:46] <UbunVIA> kitche: any luck?
[01:46] <isaacmk> giving me same exact message when i use terminal
[01:46] <wepeel> argh. have to run and make dinner. Good luck isaacmk
[01:46] <mzuverink> Pici, the image server
[01:46] <Sakura> Meow!
[01:46] <Beyond_The_Grave> OK, I'm in the directory, but now I need to delete files of the same name in separate directories under the directory I'm in...
[01:46] <isaacmk> thanks for your help
[01:46] <isaac_> wepeel, yeah, if hes on irc. that means hes connected to the internet, but he cant connect to the update servers.
[01:47] <mzuverink> Pici, for some reason the shell script to enter config mode is broke
[01:47] <UbunVIA> kitche: can you see me type, i think someting is wrong with my internet? Any luck?
[01:47] <evri2> velko: well nothing happens.I can use 9-0 to decrease/increase volume. Is this same for you?
[01:47] <nickrud> brizi, minicom shows what the modem is echoing back; that's what ate1 turns on (in case it was off) If it didnt echo after that, your modem is not talking, and you should get support from the people you paid
[01:47] <Pici> mzuverink: I've never used the ubuntu package unfortunately.
[01:47] <brizi> ok thank u for ur help
[01:48] <astro76> Beyond_The_Grave, find is recursive, it will search the subdirs
[01:48] <Beyond_The_Grave> So how do I delete them again?
[01:48] <jussi_> hey.. is there software for linux what does the same as adaware in windows
[01:48] <Shadow_mil> Hey! I just got a new wide screen monitor, how do I reconfigure xorg correctly?  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver or something like that?
[01:48] <WaxyFresh> !virus | jussi_
[01:48] <ubotu> jussi_: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[01:48] <jahid_> Thomsen, I tried both of them just now. but still its like that
[01:48] <savetheWorld> jussi_: No, partially because, frankly, that doesn't happen to Linux.
[01:48] <Thomsen> jussi_: You won't find much adware in linux
[01:48] <velko> evri2, 7 and 8 work for me. i tested it again to make sure. but i'm on debian proper. don't know if you hit an ubuntu packaging bug
[01:48] <nickrud> isaacmk, maybe your archive is down; you could try another
[01:49] <Pici> jussi_: There is no adware in Linux
[01:49] <Beyond_The_Grave> What's the command to delete the files?
[01:49] <WaxyFresh> Thomsen: much?is there any at all? i dont think there is.
[01:49] <WaxyFresh> Beyond_The_Grave:  rm
[01:49] <cannibal`_> anyone used pixel, or know of a way of installing photoshop cs2 onto feisty fawn?
[01:49] <UbunVIA> Can anyone help me with a video driver install please?
[01:49] <dissection> I was running irssi but I closed the Terminal window but my nick is still on IRC. How could I get back to that? I didn't run it in screen so it is strange :[
[01:49] <Beyond_The_Grave> Thank you! ^_^
[01:49] <Thomsen> jahid_: Hmmm.. try to copy the line from fstab and paste it here
[01:49] <WaxyFresh> anyone used festival before,quick question
[01:49] <evri2> velko: can you tell me which driver do you use?  You can see that in gui -->preferences-->video
[01:50] <cannibal`_> UbunVIA: have you used envy to install video drivers before?
[01:50] <Flannel> dissection: /msg chanserv help ghost (also, your nick should time out sooner or later)
[01:50] <astro76> Beyond_The_Grave, there's an example here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FindingFiles
[01:50] <Flannel> dissection: er, that should be /msg nickserv help ghost
[01:50] <leagris> WaxyFresh, Thomsen there are root kits by the way. It is not virus but are just malware.
[01:50] <dissection> Flannel: No it isn't a ghost. There is a ping reply.
[01:50] <UbunVIA> cannibal`: no, its a new driver, and im new.. it was released on the 17th, and i think this could solve a lot of peoples problems.. VN896
[01:50] <jahid_> Thomsen, i didnt do that in fstab. i tried to use the UI from "Applications>SystemTools>NTFS Configuration tool"
[01:50] <Thomsen> leagris: Well, that's certantly not adware :-)
[01:50] <velko> evri2, xv
[01:50] <jussi_> ok cheers guys :D
[01:51] <UbunVIA> cannibal`: here is the link, im re-installing ubuntu right now http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=25&CatID=2580&SubCatID=185
[01:51] <dissection> How do I get a list of the screens running?
[01:51] <rafaelscj> I am on live CD now, and my PS/2 mouse don't work, help me
[01:52] <xcd> when is pidgin going in feisty repositories...
[01:52] <Draconicus> brb
[01:52] <nilihanth> is there a key-stroke for switching desktops??
[01:52] <leagris> Thomsen, sudo apt-get install malware... Couldn't find package malware
[01:52] <Xonnel> Hey again - I got the screen res to work!! Thanks for help all!
[01:52] <Beyond_The_Grave> So if I type "rm -r [filename] " it will delete all the files in the directory and other directories below it?
[01:52] <velko> dissection, "screen -list" iirc
[01:52] <Xonnel> for info - reconfigure X11 with  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:52] <Thomsen> jahid_: Ah, ok. We'll try to do that then. Open up a terminal and write "cat /etc/fstab" find a line that has ntfs in it and paste it here
[01:53] <Ahadiel> Beyond_The_Grave, Yes, the -r is for recursive
[01:53] <St3a1tH> hey guys , i have just update my ubuntu with update-manager [for the last time ever i swear]  , and it has broken a lot of my system. I was able to fix most part of it , but one thing i can not fix. Now when my system starts wpa_supplicant is never run ... Anyone knows what can i do to fix the old behaviour ? I hate to have to start wpa_supplicant manually
[01:53] <dissection> Okay, this is *really* weird.
[01:53] <astro76> Beyond_The_Grave, no
[01:53] <Thomsen> leagris: I think you'll have to enable the commercial repositories :-)
[01:53] <nilihanth> is there a key-stroke for switching desktops??
[01:53] <astro76> Beyond_The_Grave, check that link there's an example of using find with rm to do exactly what you want to do
[01:53] <WaxyFresh> i know on kubuntu if you have duel cpus in a laptop you need to right click on the battery and tell it to use both to thier fullest extent or else it will try to conserve on power by cutting back on cpu usage,is there a simaler thing on ubuntu
[01:53] <evri2> velko: well... I have saturation problem in mplayer.I try to use VLC but in there my subtitles files which are in Turkish cannot be displayed sometimes.When special characters like "","","" etc. appears.I can see them in mplayer by installing some Turksih font from somewhere. well thx anyway
[01:54] <dissection> velko, Flannel. I closed that Terminal window 2 hours ago and my nick is still on IRC. There is a ping and version reply from it. How do I get back to that? I didn't run it in screen.
[01:54] <jahid_> Thomsen, /dev/sda7 /media/Shohel ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[01:54] <Beyond_The_Grave> Yeah, that didn't work
[01:54] <PocketIRC> someone please help me! kernel panic at boot! "not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)
[01:54] <yagran> hi, a little help please. im trying to install kiba dock. i am upto the point of running the autogen.sh files, however when i run one o fthem i get an error saying 'Package requirements (gnome-desk-top2.0 >= 2.8) where no met'
[01:54] <Beyond_The_Grave> I typed "rm -r desktop" to remove the desktop.ini files, and nothing
[01:54] <velko> dissection, i guess the only way around is to ask an operator to kick your nick
[01:54] <nilihanth> Quick help! Is there a key-stroke for switching desktops??
[01:54] <UbunVIA> help please?
[01:54] <St3a1tH> nilihanth  what you mean ?
[01:54] <astro76> Beyond_The_Grave, find, not rm
[01:54] <rafaelscj> k
[01:55] <yagran> i checked my gnome version and its 2.18, do i need to update it ?
[01:55] <nilihanth> St3a1tH, to switch between virtual desktops
[01:55] <Thomsen> jahid_: Where would you like to mount?
[01:55] <wckdkl0wn> anyone here sucessfully installed photoshop cs2 on linux?
[01:55] <nilihanth> St3a1tH, is there a keyboard shortcut?
[01:55] <St3a1tH> nilihanth try control + alt + ->
[01:55] <astro76> Beyond_The_Grave, first example under find https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FindingFiles
[01:55] <St3a1tH> right arrow
[01:55] <jahid_> Thomsen, /home/jahid/windrives/c
[01:55] <nilihanth> St3a1tH, sweet!  thanks!
[01:55] <jahid_> Thomsen, i have more then one dirve
[01:56] <yagran> can any help me out here?
[01:56] <jahid_> Thomsen, so, i want it to be like ..../c
[01:56] <Beyond_The_Grave> so it's find -r [filename] ?
[01:56] <St3a1tH> nilihanth youre welcome
[01:56] <jahid_> Thomsen, so, i want it to be like ..../d
[01:56] <PocketIRC>  someone please help me! kernel panic at boot! "not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)
[01:56] <St3a1tH> PocketIRC , what is yout root partition ?
[01:56] <Flannel> dissection: try 'jobs', see if its running, also see if its in ps aux
[01:56] <astro76> Beyond_The_Grave, no
[01:56] <Shadow_mil> how do I setup a wide screen monitor?
[01:56] <Thomsen> jahid_: Let's just start with one. Did you make that directory (/home/jahid/windrives/c) ?
 /  ?
[01:57] <Beyond_The_Grave> OK, nvm the tut tells me Thanks for the help! ^_^
[01:57] <yagran> shadow mill good question
[01:57] <jahid_> Thomsen, i have that directory. but where i have to write this location?
[01:57] <dissection> Flannel: Yes it is running when I checked using ps aux
[01:57] <St3a1tH> PocketIRC  , i mean what device ? /dev/sda- /dev/hda*
[01:57] <rafaelscj> I am using live CD, and my PS/2 mouse dont't work, please help
[01:57] <yagran>  i need ubuntu to realise my monitor is 1900x1200
[01:57] <St3a1tH> yagran chance xorg.conf
[01:57] <astro76> jahid_, make directories to mount drives under /media/
[01:57] <velko> dissection, then just connect to the screen session with "-r -d"
[01:58] <blazemonger> gnu chess wont instal it asks me to remove gnome-games
[01:58] <dissection> velko: It does not show up in screen -list
[01:58] <UbunVIA> SOOO?? Anyone?? Help with a Video Driver install?
[01:58] <AnRkey> at the moment when i log in i have to type startx to start my gdm
[01:58] <jahid_> astro76, i want to mount outside of media
[01:58] <velko> dissection, oh...
[01:58] <AnRkey> how do i get this to auto start x?
[01:58] <astro76> jahid_, you really don't
 how do i check thar from recovery mode?
[01:58] <yagran> St3a1tH this is my first day on linux could you walk me through that, im a quick learner honest!
[01:58] <jahid_> astro76, why so? i have done that in ubuntu 6
 sda1
[01:58] <blazemonger> i dont see how gnuchess could conflict with gnome-game
[01:58] <jahid_> astro76, why i cant do that now in 7?
[01:59] <dissection> velko: Is it some kind of a bug? It has never happened before.
[01:59] <Flannel> dissection: I don't believe there is a way to reconnect to it, as to why it's still running, I also don't know.  You did it in a tty? or a gnome-terminal?
[01:59] <isaac_> wepeel, yeah, if hes on irc. that means hes connected to the internet, but he cant connect to the update servers.
[01:59] <isaac_> lol..oops
[01:59] <exyan> wow, I don't really get it why ubuntu is so popular now :o
[01:59] <Thomsen> jahid_: We need to edit /etc/fstab. First we make a backup: "sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab-bak"
[01:59] <St3a1tH> PocketIRC try to boot in recovery mode , but changing gtub from UID to root=/dev/sda1
[01:59] <St3a1tH> or sda2
[01:59] <velko> dissection, neither to me. screen haven't left me in the cold yet
[01:59] <Thomsen> jahid_: then "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[01:59] <dissection> Flannel: Uhm, I don't know what a tty is. I used gnome-terminal
[01:59] <exyan> even more popular then debian itself ^^
[01:59] <jahid_> Thomsen, i have done that. i have written in fstab. can you tell me how to reload fastb without restarting pc?
[02:00] <Thomsen> jahid_: mount -a
[02:00] <Thomsen> jahid_: sudo mount -a
[02:00] <John`> how can you view percentage when using the "cp" command in terminal?
 i add that to grub?
[02:00] <John`> to see how much is completed
[02:00] <isaac_> I need assistance with samba.  when i start up my server, it says something to the effect of "launching samba daemons.   [FAILED] "  this is my first time doing samba so i really dont know much about it
[02:00] <velko> John`, nope
[02:01] <John`> velko: there is no way?
[02:01] <jahid_> Thomsen, yeah it works now
[02:01] <velko> John`, none that i know of
[02:01] <astro76> John`, you could use the verbose option to see what's being done, not a percentage though
[02:01] <Thomsen> jahid_: Great!
[02:01] <Shadow_mil> how do I setup my ubuntu to use my wide screen correctly?
[02:01] <John`> ok
[02:01] <John`> thanks
[02:01] <Flannel> dissection: gnome-terminal might have some sort of session control then (screen like capabilities), but I'm not aware of it
[02:01] <jahid_> Thomsen, thanks a lot. again, do you know why that wasn't allowing me to put other location except /media?
 no..doesn't seem to work
[02:02] <Le_Fou`dodotage> hi everyone
[02:02] <WaxyFresh> i know on kubuntu if you have duel cpus in a laptop you need to right click on the battery and tell it to use both to thier fullest extent or else it will try to conserve on power by cutting back on cpu usage,is there a simaler thing on ubuntu
[02:02] <WaxyFresh> anyone use festival?
[02:02] <dissection> Flannel: In the past when I just close the Gnome Terminal window, I'd get disconnected from IRC with the quit message "Lost Terminal". This is the first time this has happened.
[02:02] <Thomsen> jahid_: My gess is that it was the configuration program that had a problem. Not the ntfs-3g driver, mount or fstab
[02:03] <Le_Fou`dodotage> ive done something on my server and now im having some problems
[02:03] <jahid_> Thomsen, ohhh ok. Thanks Thomsen
[02:03] <taskin> hi
[02:03] <lorx> Hey. I have a problem, when my computer goes into the "suspend" mode, the computer simply just crashes. Is there a way to remove the button from the keyboard (Don't need the function) ?
[02:03] <Thomsen> jahid_: I'm not familar with that configuration program :)
[02:03] <Le_Fou`dodotage> i have chmod 700 etc
[02:03] <Le_Fou`dodotage> and now
[02:03] <Thomsen> jahid_: No problem
[02:03] <Le_Fou`dodotage> sudo: can't open /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[02:03] <Le_Fou`dodotage> :(
[02:03] <Le_Fou`dodotage> can someone help?
[02:03] <taskin> how do i enable the ftp server in ubuntu ?
[02:03] <astro76> Le_Fou`dodotage, change it back to 755
[02:04] <Le_Fou`dodotage> i cant astro76
[02:04] <isaac_> taskin: a ftp client,
[02:04] <Le_Fou`dodotage> its saying sudo: can't open /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[02:04] <bulmer> dissection: you can try gnome-terminal --help  and it tells you something about session...how it works i dont know
 other idea?
[02:04] <astro76> Le_Fou`dodotage, you can use a Live CD, or maybe recovery mode
[02:04] <Shadow_mil> Le_Fou`dodotage, use sudo chmod 755 /etc/sudoers
[02:04] <astro76> he can't sudo anymore ;)
[02:04] <Shadow_mil> Le_Fou`dodotage, get your LiveCD
[02:05] <funkmaster> does anybody use a via chrome 9 hc igp video card with ubuntu feisty?
[02:05] <velko> lorx, you can try to use "xev" to find out which key code corresponds to this key and to assign another function to it
[02:05] <Shadow_mil> Le_Fou`dodotage, uses your livecd to get around permissions
[02:05] <Shadow_mil> bbl
[02:05] <Le_Fou`dodotage> i do What?? when ive put the livecd Shadow_mil?
[02:06] <isaac_> I need assistance with samba.  when i start up my server, it says something to the effect of "launching samba daemons.   [FAILED] "  this is my first time doing samba so i really dont know much about it
[02:06] <astro76> Le_Fou`dodotage, the partition should auto mount under /media/disk or disk-1, etc... if you have more than one
[02:06] <Le_Fou`dodotage> i do What?? when ive put the livecd astro76? :)
[02:06] <PocketIRC> kernel panic : not syncing; VFS; Unable to mount root fs on unknown-bloc (0,0)
[02:06] <UbunVIA> do I install a kernel RPM package when installing a driver?
[02:06] <isaac_> once the live cd is in you should be able to us sudo again
[02:06] <astro76> Le_Fou`dodotage, open terminal, cd to /media/disk or wherever it mounted, and sudo chmod 755 etc
[02:06] <Le_Fou`dodotage> ok thx astro76
[02:07] <astro76> UbunVIA, definitely not
[02:07] <bulmer> UbunVIA: ubuntu uses deb packages however alien can convert rpm to deb like package
[02:07] <isaac_> !ftp | isaac_
[02:07] <astro76> !rpm | UbunVIA
[02:07] <ubotu> UbunVIA: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[02:08] <UbunVIA> So how the hellll do i install this driver.. no one is helping me
[02:08] <UbunVIA> http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=25&CatID=2580&SubCatID=185
[02:08] <UbunVIA> ^^ that driver
[02:08] <velko> lorx, or you can try to make it simpler: go to "system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts" and try to reassign the key to some other function
[02:08] <UbunVIA> releasenote.txt under src/
[02:08] <UbunVIA> tells how do it, im lost
[02:09] <lorx> velko, ahh.. nice, doh for not seeing that :> Thanks .>
[02:09] <mikebot> Is there a way to copy a DVD (with the chapters and everything) using Acidrip? (ie, not just saving the DVD as an avi or something?)
[02:09] <velko> lorx, did it worked?
[02:09] <bulmer> UbunVIA: did you follow the instructions? it said something about modifying a kernel, adding video buffer stuff..etc
[02:09] <UbunVIA> yeah.. i dont know how
[02:09] <UbunVIA> thats why im here..
[02:09] <velko> lorx, or crashed again?
[02:09] <UbunVIA> this is a driver that was just released
[02:10] <UbunVIA> and it works for ubuntu for the VIA Chrome9 video card..
[02:10] <PocketIRC> I get this on boot:
[02:10] <PocketIRC> kernel panic : not syncing; VFS; Unable to mount root fs on unknown-bloc (0,0)
[02:10] <PocketIRC> help!
[02:10] <bulmer> UbunVIA: well building a kernel is not trivial task...you can google for that first and then learn the different modules you can build onto the kernel with that link you pointed to gives you a hint
[02:10] <lorx> velko, yeah it worked :D
[02:11] <jetscreamer> kernelsRez
[02:11] <UbunVIA> i think i will just stick with windows xp
[02:11] <UbunVIA> i dont got time for this
[02:11] <UbunVIA> thanks tho
[02:11] <bulmer> we can not stop you
[02:12] <velko> PocketIRC, is this a custom compiled kernel?
[02:12] <mikebot> Does anyone here use AcidRip?
[02:12] <mikebot> Or, does anyone here know how to copy CDs using ubuntu?
[02:13] <evri2> Do anyone have full transparent skin for GKRellm?Any programs that does same job and have transparent theme will be accepted as wel. :)
[02:13] <bulmer> mikebot: i dont do much copying..but 3kb will do wonders
 noo
[02:13] <mikebot> bulmer: 3kb? Is that a program?
[02:13] <bulmer> mikebot: rather k3b
[02:13] <mikebot> bulmer: Ah, thanks, I'll look into it.
[02:13] <bulmer> yes its a program
[02:14] <korhalf> i just put a fresh install of ubuntu on my thinkpad, whats the firs thing i should do
[02:14] <mikebot> bulmer: I can't figure out how to copy DVDS in any format other than avi and mpg in AcidRip
[02:14] <bulmer> take a deep breath and sing alleluiah? hehehe
[02:14] <WaxyFresh> i know on kubuntu if you have duel cpus in a laptop you need to right click on the battery and tell it to use both to thier fullest extent or else it will try to conserve on power by cutting back on cpu usage,is there a simaler thing on ubuntu
 any idea?
[02:15] <bulmer> mikebot: i dont do much copying..sorry
[02:15] <korhalf> i mean like codecs and all that, is there some auto installer stuff
[02:15] <mikebot> bulmer: No worries, thanks.
[02:15] <WaxyFresh> anyone use festival?
[02:15] <korhalf> i wanna get everythin gup and running
[02:15] <Thomsen> mikebot: What are you trying to - copy cd's or dvds?
[02:15] <mikebot> Thomsen: DVDs.
[02:15] <Thomsen> mikebot: Movies?
[02:16] <bulmer> korhalf: well i rely on ubuntu wiki for the stuff of howto's
[02:16] <Ahadiel> Anyone know why I can't watch videos while have compiz fusion enabled? (Intel GMA945)
[02:16] <velko> PocketIRC, i'm just reading trough this http://kerneltrap.org/node/2318 . maybe a bit of tinkering with /boot/grub/menu.lst will do it. or regenerating the initrd image?
[02:16] <mikebot> Thomsen: Yes.
[02:16] <Le_Fou`dodotage> mikebot http://www.strdoc.net/how-copy-cd-dvd-disk-ubuntu
[02:16] <korhalf> bulmer: link?
[02:16] <Thomsen> mikebot: DVD9 to DVD4
[02:16] <Thomsen> ?
[02:16] <mikebot> Le_Fou`dodotage: Thanks
[02:16] <mikebot> Thomsen: Not sure what that means.
 menu.lst looks the same..whats regenerating initrd?
[02:17] <bulmer> korhalf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[02:17] <astro76> !codecs | korhalf
[02:17] <ubotu> korhalf: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:17] <kevin4381> I really like some of the effects in compiz... and I really like some of the effects in beryl;; but it seems I can't get the best of both...
[02:17] <kevin4381> like in compiz the windows slide when minimized... in beryl; they can't slide
[02:18] <Thomsen> mikebot: Are you trying to copy an "original" dvd movie to a 4,7 GB DVD disc?
[02:18] <kitche> kevin4381: sure you can with compiz-fusion :)
[02:18] <mikebot> Thomsen: Yes.
[02:18] <Thomsen> makebot: Try to install k9copy. It's like DVD-shrink for linux
[02:18] <korhalf> Thank you
[02:19] <mikebot> Thomsen: OK, thanks
[02:19] <tomi> Hello girls...I wonder...If I run a command in terminal, and don't want to see any error messegas, how do I hide them, och forward them to e text file?
[02:19] <velko> PocketIRC, the modern kernels have most drivers compiled as loadable modules (as opposed to staticly compiled into the kernel itself) and use a small virtual file system (initrd) to load just the necessary modules on boot. this image (initrd) will be generated for you when you install new kernel
[02:19] <mikebot> Thomsen: SHould I just get rid of AcidRip?
[02:19] <malocite> can someone look at some code for me and tell me what I'm doing wrong? - I'm trying to use the atitvout program
[02:19] <kevin4381> compiz-fusion... thanks kitche :)
[02:19] <tomi> Anyone?
[02:20] <Thomsen> mikebot: sorry, I'm not familiar with that prorgam
[02:20] <mikebot> Thomsen: OK, and will this work in ubuntu?
[02:20] <mikebot> Or gnome?
[02:21] <Thomsen> mikebot: I think it's only for copying from DVD's to avi/mpeg files you can store on your harddrive
[02:21] <wckdkl0wn> anyone tell me what this means????  if your Ubuntu box has as default charset ascii and your Windows box has ucs-2 then $ recode ucs-2..ascii adobe.reg would do the trick
 ok..so how regenerate?
[02:21] <NETWizz> I want to upgrade Ubuntu to a bigger hard drive
[02:21] <riotkittie> does 7.04's desktop dis/live cdc include the alternate install?
[02:21] <NETWizz> How do I do it?
[02:21] <mikebot> Thomsen: You're talking about AcidRip, right?
[02:21] <tomi> if i run find command from root, and dont want any error messages, how do I hide them?
[02:21] <riotkittie> err disc/live cd
[02:21] <NETWizz> I have currently a 100 GB PATA drive
[02:21] <Thomsen> mikebot: It will. you can install it from synaptic (enable multiverse)
[02:21] <blazemonger> why6 is gnuchess conflict with gnome-game
[02:21] <kitche> tomi : Command 2&>1 or soemthing close to that
[02:21] <NETWizz> I want to move it to a 400 GB SATA
[02:21] <NETWizz> How?
[02:21] <velko> PocketIRC, boot from the livecd, chroot in your hdd install and reinstall the kernel
[02:21] <Thomsen> mikebot: Yes  I was
[02:21] <blazemonger> is there a way to force gnuchess to install
[02:22] <kitche> tomi: I can't remember the correct syntax for it
 im in old kernel
[02:22] <mikebot> Thomsen: OK, thanks a lot.
[02:22] <Thomsen> tomi: proramname > /dev/null I guess
[02:22] <mikebot> Thomsen: This burns DVDs too?
[02:22] <velko> PocketIRC, what do you mean by that?
[02:22] <NETWizz> How do I image my hda to sda
[02:22] <NETWizz> I want to upgrade to a SATA hard disk
[02:23] <astro76> tomi, http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html#SEC37
[02:23] <NETWizz> I would like everything to still boot too
[02:23] <Thomsen> mikebot: I'm not sure. It makes isos you can later burn with k3b or something similar
[02:23] <WaxyFresh> aanyone ever use truecrypt?dose it slow your machine down alot?
 i have booted into old 2.6.17-11 kernel
[02:23] <mikebot> Thomsen: OK, thanks.
[02:23] <riotkittie> does feisty's live cd include an alternate install ?
[02:23] <mikebot> Thomsen: Do you know how I can make it so DVDs don't automatically open in Totem?
[02:24] <jvai> hey ppls
[02:24] <Thomsen> riotkittie: it doesn't. There's a sepsrate cd for that
[02:24] <jvai> good evening
[02:24] <velko> PocketIRC, oh - so your can boot? but if you try to boot with the new kernel you get the error?
 yep
[02:24] <madman91> is there a way I can setup a dialog window/box/message to show me when a program wants to connect to somewhere.. and allow me to disable/enable it?
[02:24] <riotkittie> Thomsen: doh!  :|
[02:24] <riotkittie> altho  i can download it in like ten mins.  <shrug>
[02:25] <jetscreamer> man bash
[02:25] <jetscreamer> man perl
[02:25] <Thomsen> mikebot: System->Admin->Removable drives and media
[02:25] <jetscreamer> or perl perldocs
[02:25] <astro76> madman91, are you trying to block something in particular?
 hrm not sure how to reinstall kernel..
[02:25] <madman91> astro76: well no.. i know how to do that with firestarter.. just in general
[02:26] <madman91> astro76: just to monitor outbound connections before they connect
[02:26] <velko> PocketIRC, i use aptitude so i can tell you how to reinstall with this program. you find the new kernel and press "L". the other option is to deinstall and reinstall the new kernel. this will regenerate the initrd file
[02:26] <mikebot> Thomsen: Don't have that.
[02:26] <WaxyFresh> !truecrypt
[02:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about truecrypt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:26] <velko> PocketIRC, try the /me command :-)
[02:26] <riotkittie> brb. im going to try the live cd again. maybe maaaaaybe it will load.  <knocks on wood>
[02:26] <Thomsen> mikebot: Sorry, it's in system->Preferences
[02:26] <iNcrease> !crypt
[02:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crypt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:26] <imbecile> I installed ubuntustudio from repos now my wireless network manager isnt working, any suggestions?
[02:26] <PocketIRC> /me
[02:27] <mikebot> Thomsen: Ah, thanks.
[02:27] <velko> PocketIRC, without spaces at the beginning of the line
 :) hmm ok..here i am att the recoverymodeterminal
[02:27] <imbecile> ./me says something
[02:28] <imbecile> like that without the "."
[02:28] <qazwsx> if I plan something in firefox (youtube), the sound is fine (loud), however, when I try to play a movie via mplayer, the sound is bairly audible, yet in mplayer I use 00000 to make the sound as loud as possible; how can I make the sond louder? every option in alsamixer is at amx
[02:28] <DanaG> How can I set up my PC as a router, with port forwarding and multiple WAN interfaces?
[02:28] <DanaG> Firestarter won't do it -- it makes you choose one interface to call the external one. Thus, I'd have to change it every time I switch from eth0 to wlan0.
[02:29] <WaxyFresh> anyone use truecrypt?is ther a gui to it?
[02:29] <astro76> DanaG, is it going to be only a router, or do you need ubuntu?
[02:29] <velko> PocketIRC, wish you all the best. here is alread 3:30 am and i'm going to bed. good night
[02:29] <kjm> I have an .avi file that I wish to burn onto a dvd so it can play in a DVD player hooked up to a tv.  How do I convert an .avi to a compatible dvd format?
[02:29] <DanaG> I'm intending to act as a NAT for my Qemu VMs.
[02:30] <DanaG> I have everything up to internet browsing working, but I can't get rdesktop to work from the host OS.
[02:30] <DanaG> !seamlessvirtualization
[02:30] <DanaG> !seamlessrdp
[02:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seamlessrdp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:30] <DanaG> !qemu
[02:30] <kitche> !fishing | DanaG
[02:30] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[02:30] <ubotu> DanaG: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:31] <madman91> does anyone know how can i stop all connections outbound.. and let a dialog popup asking for my permission to do so?
[02:31] <madman91> each time
[02:31] <DanaG> Okay, but the bot REALLLY needs a blurb about seamless virtualization.
[02:31] <kjm> DanaG - talk to the bot about your issues then, not us please.
[02:31] <jussi_> im trying to intsall tuxguitar. when i try to install the package i get a message saying "only one software management tool is allowed to run at the same time" wtf? the install process froze last time so i rebooted..
[02:32] <DanaG> Talk to the bot?  Are you joking, or are you making a play on words?  I don't believe I have authority to add anything.
[02:32] <kitche> DanaG: this is what you want https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeamlessVirtualization
[02:32] <kitche> DanaG: took one search to find it
[02:33] <ac3Ntri> Screen Resolution and Refresh Rate Problems on a 42inch HDTV its at 640x480 and 76 refresh no other options i need it at 1024x768 at 60 refresh
[02:33] <DanaG> I already have that link; I just wanted to show it to demonstrate what I'm asking about.
[02:33] <NumBeas1> So what's this channel for?
[02:33] <DanaG> I can't ping the guest from the host, and of course, RDP is broken as a result.
[02:33] <ac3Ntri> right now my hdtv screen is flickering and i can barely see any of the text
[02:33] <astro76> !resolution | ac3Ntri
[02:33] <ubotu> ac3Ntri: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:33] <korhalf> anwhere i can get some sick hacker themes ?
[02:33] <DanaG> It's >, not |, with the bot.
[02:33] <astro76> NumBeas1, type /topic ;)
[02:33] <korhalf> actually what do you guys recommend, u think i should stick with gnome?
[02:34] <kitche> DanaG: umm it's also |
[02:34] <NETWizz> I got Seamless RDP working
[02:34] <NumBeas1> lol, thx
[02:34] <NETWizz> Here is all you need
[02:34] <NETWizz> Virtual Box or VMWARE
[02:34] <godofredo> how do i install firefox via apt-get?
[02:34] <NETWizz> I use VMWARE
[02:34] <kitche> DanaG: but anyways for qemu it's localhost
[02:34] <NETWizz> sudo apt-get install firefox-bin
[02:34] <NumBeas1> apt-get install firefox
[02:34] <Private_Snafu> XXXXXXXXXX
[02:34] <NicNac> Korhalf enlightenment
[02:34] <NumBeas1> should work
[02:34] <Private_Snafu> XXXXXXXXXX
[02:34] <Private_Snafu> XXXXXXXXXX
[02:34] <Private_Snafu> XXXXXXXXXX
[02:34] <Private_Snafu> XXXXXXXXXX
[02:34] <madman91> spam
[02:34] <kitche> DanaG: so your most likely using the rdesktop command wrong
[02:34] <imbecile> I installed ubuntustudio from repos now my wireless network manager isnt working, any suggestions?
[02:34] <nene> alguien habla espaol?
[02:34] <DanaG> Even with VDE networking on Qemu?  I'm using tap0 with vde_switch.
[02:34] <NETWizz> here is teh command that works for me
[02:35] <astro76> !es | nene
[02:35] <ubotu> nene: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:35] <nene> thanks
[02:35] <NETWizz> #!/bin/bash
[02:35] <NETWizz> rdesktop -rsound -A -s "c:\seamlessrdp\seamlessrdpshell.exe c:\windows\explorer.exe" 192.168.0.9 -u Linux -p ubunt
[02:35] <Beyond_The_Grave> OK, I'm trying to use the find command to delete a lot of files named the same thing, but it's saying I can't delete them
[02:35] <NETWizz> That is a script
[02:35] <jt3k> re 2 *!*@*
[02:35] <NETWizz> 192.168.0.9 is a static IP of my Windows Box
[02:36] <Beyond_The_Grave> The command I used was "find . -iname '*.db' -exec rm {Thumbs} \;"
[02:36] <godofredo> NETWizz, that is not the correct filename
[02:36] <NETWizz> What?
[02:36] <Beyond_The_Grave> Is that right if I want to delete files named Thumbs.db?
[02:36] <NETWizz> What are you talking about
[02:36] <NETWizz> ?
[02:36] <godofredo> NETWizz, firefox-bin isn't the right name
[02:36] <NETWizz> Oh, sorry
[02:36] <kitche> DanaG: if you use qemu the command for rdesktop to get to the VM would be http://pastebin.ca/636556
[02:36] <NETWizz> Anyway
[02:36] <NETWizz> #!/bin/bash
[02:36] <NETWizz> rdesktop -rsound -A -s "c:\seamlessrdp\seamlessrdpshell.exe c:\windows\explorer.exe" 192.168.0.9 -u Linux -p ubuntu
[02:36] <NumBeas1> Beyond_the_grave: thumbs.db is autogenerated, deleting it shouldn't change anything
[02:36] <godofredo> NETWizz, you don't know it?
[02:37] <NETWizz> -u Linux is the Windows username within Remote Desktop Group
[02:37] <Beyond_The_Grave> Yeah, but it's annoying me in Rhythmbox
[02:37] <astro76> Beyond_The_Grave, the {} should be empty
[02:37] <DanaG> I try that, it just stalls after detecting keyboard layout.
[02:37] <pi_i810> i'm having trouble with video playback on an external monitor, but i'm not even sure how to describe it http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=4t6yb85
[02:37] <NETWizz> Know what?
[02:37] <NETWizz> -p is the Password
[02:37] <astro76> Beyond_The_Grave, replace '*.db' with 'Thumbs.db'
[02:37] <Gorthax> holy hell that was a lot of connected users
[02:37] <sam__> HAS anyone tried installing UBUNTU STUDIO yet?
[02:37] <cornell> Evening all....  May I ask...  is the ssh server enabled by default in feisty?
[02:37] <godofredo> NETWizz, the package name for firefox.....sorry...
[02:37] <Beyond_The_Grave> Is there a verbose command for find?
[02:38] <astro76> Beyond_The_Grave, so find . -iname 'Thumbs.db' -exec rm {} \;
[02:38] <NumBeas1> Beyond_The_Grave,:You can safely delete it, but be warned the next time windows used that directory thumbs.db will pop up again
[02:38] <twofclubs> probably a noob question for you all...but i wanna know how to copy a file from say my cd rom to my home folder...without actually copying and pasting...i wanna do it through the terminal...the folder in the cd rom is called source... is the command $ cp /cdrom/source/ /home/twofclubs/?
[02:38] <kitche> sam__: yes many have and #ubuntustudio is the channel for studio
[02:38] <pi_i810> there's a green bar of crap at the bottom when i do video playback, but i'm not sure how to call it to start looking for solutions http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=4t6yb85
[02:38] <astro76> Beyond_The_Grave, there's a setting in windows explorer to disable creating the thumbnail files
[02:38] <NumBeas1> Beyond_The_Grave, find -iname "thumbs.db" -delete is less typing
[02:38] <kitche> twofclubs: cp -r /cdrom/source /home/twoofclubs/
[02:38] <maxpower> dmfe is loaded even though it is blacklisted in my /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist file. What else can I do to keep it from loading?
[02:38] <Beyond_The_Grave> I know, I don't have it anymore, so I'm getting rid of them, but thanks for the warning! ^_^
[02:39] <sam__> kitche im well aware thanks, but seems no one is talking in there...  i had some issues wth it and not sure whats wrong because the error message was all muddled up ....
[02:39] <MongooseWA> Does samba leave ports open all the time? And if you remove it, do the ports close back up again?
[02:39] <astro76> Beyond_The_Grave, I don't believe so, you can replace the rm with echo if you want to see what files it finds
[02:39] <sam__> Anyone using UBUNTU STUDIO?
[02:39] <twofclubs> kitche: what does the -r do?
[02:39] <kitche> twofclubs: recursive it's needed to copy directories
[02:40] <twofclubs> thank you sir
[02:40] <Nuked> hi, I just recently installed fluxbox, and none of the changes I made to the startup file are being executed... any help?
[02:40] <Beyond_The_Grave> Well, thank you guys! ^_^
[02:41] <malocite> hey, I am trying to do something with the atitvout thing and it requires that I start an xserver using the VESA driver, but I can't find it... does it have to be inserted into the kernel?
[02:41] <astro76> MongooseWA, I would imagine, if you remove it there's no server listening on that port, then it is "closed"
[02:42] <MongooseWA> kk thank you
[02:42] <UbunVIA> What is bios bug #81, and Memory #6 Errors mean?
[02:42] <cornell> I've installed feisty on a machine, when I boot it now, the video is ... funky.  Then blank.  I can't ssh in, "no route to host" nor can I ping it, though the dhcp reports its presence.  Can I boot it and interrupt it from going into x?
[02:42] <astro76> malocite, you would need to change the Driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to "vesa" I believe
[02:43] <malocite> did that
[02:43] <UbunVIA> What is bios bug #81, and Memory #6 Errors mean?
[02:44] <trwww> cornell: pressing ctrl+alt+f1 should switch you to a terminal
[02:45] <cornell> Thanks trwww, but nope
[02:45] <malocite> astro76: How can I have the output of a program be written to a log file so I can review the results?
[02:45] <malocite> astro76: Then I can show you the response
[02:45] <trwww> thats what it is in centos anyways... I'd try a few ctrl+alt+fX
[02:46] <jetscreamer> ctrl alt f7 is back to xorg
[02:46] <jetscreamer> err
[02:46] <trwww> then alt+f7 will get you back
[02:46] <jetscreamer> alt f7
[02:46] <Thomsen> malcite: programname >> logfile
[02:46] <jetscreamer> ctrl alt f? for consoles
[02:46] <jetscreamer> 1-6
[02:47] <cornell> 1-6 nada
[02:47] <jetscreamer> F1,F2...
[02:47] <malocite> astro76: How can I have the output of a program be written to a log file so I can review the results?
[02:47] <cornell> When it's booting. there's a message about starting.  Later a splash of...staticy color, then nada
[02:47] <malocite> or anypne for that matter
[02:48] <Barry> How do i check my connection speed in terminal?
[02:48] <NumBeast> anyone know a good way of getting rid of unnecessary packages? other than autoremove?
[02:48] <Thomsen> malocite: programname >> logfile
[02:48] <jetscreamer> cornell: boot single
[02:48] <malocite> I have to use the >> as well?
[02:48] <cornell> ?boot single?
[02:48] <Thomsen> malocite: yes
[02:48] <malocite> thanks
[02:49] <jetscreamer> think safe mode boot
[02:49] <malocite> now to see whats wrong :)
[02:49] <jetscreamer> new nvidia/ati?
[02:49] <astro76> malocite, command > logfile, or if you want error output also, command > logfile 2>&1
[02:49] <trwww> cornell: open terminal -> "$ csh" -> "init 3"
[02:49] <astro76> malocite, yeah use >> to append instead of >
[02:49] <trwww> that will start in runmode 3
[02:49] <astro76> malocite, unless you want to overwrite
[02:50] <cornell> jetscreamer: I don't suppose F8 would work?
[02:50] <NumBeast>  malocite: don't use command > logfile unless you're sure there isn't something important in logfile
[02:50] <Barry> Anyone know how i can check my connection speed?
[02:50] <kayzu> minutes after installing firestarter it blocked a connection from xxxxxxxxxxx.access.telnet.be ? wth is that?
[02:50] <malocite> making a new one :)
[02:50] <meme20> which has more software packages, ubuntu or arch?
[02:50] <malocite> wait... one > or two?
[02:50] <bmk789> Barry: internet connection speed?
[02:51] <jetscreamer> cornell: not usually, but you have the ability to get it to (if your box works normally)
[02:51] <NumBeast> Barry: if you have firestarter just open it and you'll see at the bottom of the window
[02:51] <astro76> malocite, use >>, it will add to the file, or create it if it doesn't exist
[02:51] <Barry> bmk789: yes, through terminal...just want to see what my wireless connection speed is
[02:51] <malocite> ahh perfect
[02:51] <astro76> malocite, > will always erase the file if it exists
[02:51] <AnRkey> does anyone else's installation not go into gdm when it boots?
[02:51] <AnRkey> i can't get ubuntu to boot into gdm
[02:51] <AnRkey> can anyone help?
[02:51] <bmk789> Barry: ifconfig should give you a number, if it doesnt try iwconfig
[02:51] <kayzu> wait, it was telenet.be
[02:52] <AnRkey> i have to use startx
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> AnRkey: yes
[02:52] <cornell> TTFN
[02:52] <bmk789> AnRkey: what GPU?
[02:52] <malocite> damn
[02:52] <malocite> nothing wrote to it
[02:52] <nickrud> AnRkey, sudo aptitude install gdm && sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start
[02:53] <NumBeast> Barry: if you ping something you'll get the time it took to ping
[02:53] <Barry> ah...yes
[02:53] <Thomsen> malocite: You'll only get what normally would be output to your terminal when running the program normally
[02:53] <malocite> ahhh
[02:53] <rafaelscj> my PS/2 mouse works with Ubuntu 6.06 LTS, but not with Ubuntu 7.04
[02:53] <AnRkey> nickrud, gonna reboot and see quick, thanks
[02:54] <nickrud> AnRkey, no reboot necessary
[02:54] <NumBeast>  malocite: run the command without the >> logfile  part to see if you get an output
[02:54] <IndyGunFreak> raf256: i've never had luck with ps2 and mouse, usb has alwyas worked perfect though
[02:54] <malocite> this is what I am trying to do : http://pastebin.com/d3784729d
[02:54] <HelpMe> Hello, I have a question.  How do I compile FreeCiv?
[02:55] <kahrytan> HelpMe: try playing Freecol
[02:55] <NumBeast> HelpMe: cd to the FreeCiv directory and type "make"
[02:55] <malocite> I can't find the vesa driver
[02:55] <kayzu> firestarter blocked a connection from xxxxxxx.access.telenet.be, what is that and why did it try to connect?
[02:55] <NumBeast> HelpMe: specific instructions should be in a file called INSTALL
[02:55] <nickrud> HelpMe, why not just install it from the repos?
[02:56] <tck> issue 3 of www.fullcirclemagazine.org is out people :)
[02:56] <HelpMe> Oh, hah!  Nvm!  I found it at add/remove!  Thanks anyway guys!
[02:56] <NumBeast> HelpMe: and it should already be packaged in the repositiry
[02:58] <kevin4381> I get md5 errors when downloading KATE via synaptic pkg mgr... and I don't see a download link on the kate-editor.org website!  how can I get kate??
[02:58] <kahrytan> !info freeciv
[02:58] <ubotu> Package freeciv does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:58] <kahrytan> !freeciv
[02:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freeciv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:58] <bmk789> kevin4381: try updating then retry install?
[02:58] <kahrytan> !info freeciv-client-gtk
[02:58] <ubotu> freeciv-client-gtk: Civilization turn based strategy game (GTK+ client). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.8-3 (feisty), package size 381 kB, installed size 1020 kB
[02:59] <NumBeast> kahrytan: what about freciv do you want to know?
[02:59] <kahrytan> NumBeast: for help me
[02:59] <kahrytan> helpme
[02:59] <AnRkey> nickrud,  ok i get this  Not starting GNOME Display Manager (gdm); it is not the default display manager.
[02:59] <Alanooo> IT IS TIME
[02:59] <Alanooo> TO FUCK SOME NIGGERS
[02:59] <NumBeast> http://freeciv.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
[02:59] <AnRkey> but when i run startx i get into no problem
[02:59] <Alanooo> NIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
[02:59] <Alanooo> NIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
[02:59] <Alanooo> NIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
[02:59] <Alanooo> NIGGGGGGGGGGGG
[02:59] <nickrud> AnRkey, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[02:59] <Alanooo> Now talking in #ubuntu
[02:59] <crdlb> !ops
[02:59] <Alanooo> * Topic is:	Official Ubuntu Support Channel | Please be patient and read the FAQ. | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
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[03:00] <Alanooo> * Set by mneptok on Sat Jul 14 00:58:51 UTC 2007
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[03:00] <AnRkey> nickrud, done that too
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[03:00] <boyam> !ops
[03:00] <osxdude|lap> thank you
[03:00] <boyam> geeez
[03:00] <AnRkey> nickrud, then i get this
[03:00] <osxdude|lap> lol ubotu was scared
[03:00] <meme20> GNAA is getting lamer
[03:00] <raf256> what it is with the morons attack today
[03:00] <NumBeast> wtf just happened?
[03:00] <AnRkey> invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed.
[03:01] <Amaranth> !attack
[03:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about attack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:01] <Amaranth> dang it, where did that factoid go?
[03:01] <nickrud> AnRkey, try sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start
[03:01] <rat> #ubuntu-es
[03:02] <kayzu> wtf.. my router firewall says there have been portscans going on for days =/
[03:02] <kevin4381> canon has LINUX drivers for my printer.. but I have no clue how to install them; their instructios apply to fedora and are pretty darn complicated anyway.
[03:02] <kevin4381> canon ip4200
[03:02] <kevin4381> pixma
[03:02] <d4rkmonkey> kevin4381, where did you find the instructions?
[03:02] <kevin4381> on the canon website
[03:02] <d4rkmonkey> kevin4381, do you have the link?
[03:05] <NumBeast> !list
[03:05] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:05] <kevin4381> d4rkmonkey:  - sorry; its on the canon-europe webpage... interestingly, there are no linux drivers on the canon US website ... anyway.. this is the link: http://software.canon-europe.com/software/0024302.asp?model=
[03:05] <quicoshi> hey
[03:05] <nickrud> kevin4381, ubuntu has a driver for that already
[03:06] <nickrud> kevin4381, system->admin->printers  add printer
[03:06] <quicoshi> que vergas es esto?
[03:06] <riotkittie> kevin4381: go poke around the forums ...  there are HOW-TOs and posts there that should help. i was able to get my older pixma working  following them
[03:06] <kevin4381> nickrud:  - I have the printer working... just not wel
[03:06] <malocite> can someone decent with X please look at a script I am trying to write and tell me what I am doing wrong?
[03:06] <riotkittie> i cant give you direct links, sorry
[03:06] <malocite> http://pastebin.com/d1802312e
[03:06] <kevin4381> some features aren't supported (borderless printing)... and the quality isn't as good as it should be
[03:06] <nickrud> kevin4381, ah, the gutenprint doesn't do it all then?
[03:06] <kevin4381> its a photo printer.
[03:06] <kevin4381> I'm not familiar w/gutenprint :)
[03:07] <NumBeast> quicoshi: I'f you're speaking spanish join #ubuntu-es if you're speaking esperanto, sorry, no help here
[03:07] <kevin4381> gutenprint comes w/gimp? should i update it?
[03:07] <malocite> can someone decent with X please look at a script I am trying to write and tell me what I am doing wrong?   ---  http://pastebin.com/d1802312e
[03:08] <afat> Heya, I think I'm gonna change to linux and I heard that ubuntu is the best for doing animation,graphicx and sound editing, is that true
[03:08] <afat> ?
[03:08] <jvai> Kevin4
[03:08] <malocite> i'm trying to get a program to launch in a fresh xserver on my tv instead of the monitor
[03:08] <jvai> kevin4
[03:08] <NumBeast> afat: http://ubuntustudio.org/
[03:08] <lousygarua> afat: best? maybe easiest because we try to be friendly to the users
[03:08] <orbisvicis> i installed a deb converted from rpm -> it failed to install & broke dpkg. How do i remove it and fix a 'bad' cache ?
[03:09] <kevin4381> jvai: ?
[03:09] <nickrud> kevin4381, according to the localhost:631 interface, gutenprint is what ubuntu uses as the driver. You might want to try using that interface, it lists two, one of which is marked as simplified
[03:10] <jvai> kevin4381, i had a new hp printer c4280, that drivers werent in the kernel, i looked for CUPS printer drivers thru google & added them to the home dir
[03:10] <nickrud> orbisvicis, what did you alien?
[03:10] <jvai> the pdds? file i think
[03:10] <kevin4381> I'm using gutenprint cups (expert) mode now
[03:10] <NumBeast> orbisvicis: what did you use to convert?
[03:10] <orbisvicis> nickrud, yes. for i in *.rpm; do sudo alien -cv $i; done
[03:10] <kevin4381> the main thing I would like is borderless printing...
[03:10] <kevin4381> I use it all the time.
[03:11] <nickrud> kevin4381, then you've got the best that guten has ;)
[03:11] <jvai> just google for CUPS driver for your model, & dl the script, it's just a  note script
[03:11] <lousygarua> malocite: what are you trying to do?
[03:11] <nickrud> orbisvicis, no, not how, what :)
[03:11] <malocite> lousygarua: I have a radeon 9000, trying to use the tv out properly.  I wrote a script that is supposed to launch the program  (elisa) into a new xserver on the television
[03:12] <orbisvicis> this is synaptic error : (3 lines):
[03:12] <orbisvicis> E: The package awcommon needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[03:12] <orbisvicis> E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[03:12] <nickrud> kevin4381, linuxprinting.org usually has good directions
[03:12] <malocite> http://pastebin.com/d1802312e
[03:12] <jvai> then kevin4381 where the printing app reads "add printer" just point it to the file
[03:12] <Thomsen> malocite: what error do get?
[03:12] <techII> ok, im trying to update this partition to gutsy, "update-manager -d" doesn't give me anything
[03:12] <nickrud> orbisvicis, I can help with that, but it'll take some time. can you pm me?
[03:12] <malocite> its on the pastebin
[03:12] <malocite> #
[03:12] <malocite> 7/07/2007 21:03:32.668  INFO     Un-loading audioscrobbler
[03:12] <malocite> #
[03:12] <malocite> Unable to open default displayCannot create OpenGL context
[03:12] <malocite> #
[03:12] <malocite> ./start-tv.sh: line 9:  2400 Segmentation fault      (core dumped) elisa %u
[03:13] <lousygarua> malocite: did you write it yourself or did you google for it?
[03:13] <orbisvicis> ty nickrud . 5 sec
[03:13] <malocite> googled it
[03:13] <malocite> I'm very new to scripting
[03:13] <malocite> I've changed it a bit to change which program is used in x, but thats about it
[03:13] <nils_> long long ago; /* in a galaxy far far away */ <-- lol found in a source code
[03:13] <nils_> XD
[03:14] <AnRkey> nickrud, the path in my  /etc/X11/default-display-manager was wrong
[03:14] <techII> or is #ubuntu+1 a better place to ask?
[03:14] <Thomsen> malocite: Could you paste "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.vesa"
[03:14] <eldkraft> I got wifi but no wireless router, I'm on a wired network connection. my wifi card is not configured and I've been trying to sut it off completely with no success. now.. I can see my neighbours network. can they in any way get access to me? do I have to remove my wifi card?
[03:14] <NumBeast> nils_:  lol
[03:14] <malocite> yup
[03:14] <malocite> here goes
[03:14] <AnRkey> nickrud, it pointed to /usr/bin/gdm and not /usr/sbin/gdm
[03:14] <d4rkmonkey> eldkraft, not unless you're connected to their network
[03:14] <AnRkey> working now
[03:14] <AnRkey> thanks
[03:14] <AnRkey> for the help
[03:14] <nickrud> techII, probably because the dev's haven't set up update-manager for gutsy yet. You can change all references to feisty to gutsy in /etc/apt/sources.list, do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:15] <nickrud> AnRkey, good troubleshooting. You might want to see if there's a bug filed,
[03:15] <d4rkmonkey> eldkraft, if you really want to, click on the network manager applet and un-click Enable Wireless
[03:15] <afat> So helpme I'm not so wise on linux, if I get ubuntu studio it's just like getting ubuntu right I can still add all the other things and programs that I want right?
[03:15] <malocite> thomsen: http://www.pastebin.ca/636579
[03:15] <NicNac> afat yep
[03:15] <NumBeast> afat: yep
[03:15] <darrend> anyone still seeing major memory issues with beagle?
[03:16] <afat> Cool!
[03:16] <NumBeast> afat: it's just w a better theme (imho) and with different pre-installed stuff
[03:16] <techII> beagle is a bit bloated imo
[03:16] <darrend> I just illed an index process using 1.1G of resident ram and 99.9% of both cpu's on my bix
[03:16] <techII> theres trackerd, but it doesn't do as much
[03:16] <darrend> *killed
[03:16] <techII> but takes up a lot less space
[03:16] <blackalex> im having some issues botting into my ubuntu installation; is this the right channel?
[03:16] <albert`> hey guys
[03:17] <albert`> whats the name of the ubuntu partition editor
[03:17] <albert`> something Gnome?
[03:17] <darrend> techII: thx, I might take a look
[03:17] <NumBeast> blackalex: shoot and we'll try to answer
[03:17] <techII> blackalex: best i know of
[03:17] <willskills`afk> gparted albert`
[03:17] <blackalex> ok.
[03:17] <lousygarua> Thomsen: malocite: seems like only one monitor is defined, and the TV monitor is not configured
[03:17] <malocite> hmmm
[03:17] <albert`> willskills: where can I find gparted on ubuntu, or will i have to install it manually?
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> blackalex: Did it ever work?
[03:17] <blackalex> I used the alternate ubuntu 7.04 install cd.
[03:17] <willskills`afk> it should be there
[03:17] <malocite> lousygarua: do you know how I can put that one in?
[03:17] <blackalex> the installation never errored out, but grub is giving me "error 17"
[03:17] <albert`> willskills`afk: I can't seem to find it
[03:17] <blackalex> right as it starts
[03:18] <willskills`afk> sudo gparted
[03:18] <lousygarua> malocite: Thomsen: i'm no X expert though. didn't they write anything about this on the page where u took the script from?
[03:18] <malocite> surprisingly no
[03:18] <albert`> willskills`afk: thanks
[03:18] <eldkraft> ok but when I reboot the 'enable wireless' is checked again
[03:18] <NumBeast> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=120802
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> blackalex: Multiple drives, raid setup anything like that
[03:18] <willskills`afk> or maybe u do need to install it :P
[03:18] <albert`> command not found
[03:18] <NumBeast> blackalex:   http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=120802
[03:18] <willskills`afk> I dont remember to be honest
[03:18] <techII> hmm on http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/tribe3 it tells you to use update-manager
[03:18] <blackalex> yes; i have a raid setup (RAID1) with 3114
[03:18] <lousygarua> malocite: maybe google some more for a similar command. Does the TV work at all?
[03:18] <NumBeast> blackalex: this person found a solution
[03:18] <techII> but im running 64 bit
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !raid
[03:18] <ubotu> Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[03:18] <albert`> willskills`afk: it says unknown command
[03:19] <malocite> yeah
[03:19] <malocite> but all skrewed up,
[03:19] <mongo> Can anyone recommend a good resource for learning IRC?
[03:19] <malocite> you can't see anything on it, resolution is all wrong etc
[03:19] <lousygarua> malocite: sounds like something about the refresh rate
[03:19] <malocite> yeah
[03:19] <malocite> totally
[03:19] <albert`> does anyone know how I can get gparted for ubuntu?
[03:19] <kevin4381> when is compiz-fusion going to be easy to download and install? :)
[03:19] <malocite> I just wish I knew how to change it
[03:19] <malocite> I've been researching this for 2 1/2 days now
[03:19] <lousygarua> malocite: i have nvidia, and they provide a GUI tool for changing all these stuff
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> albert`: It is on the live cd or synaptic can grab it
[03:20] <albert`> thanks
[03:20] <albert`> do u know which category
[03:20] <techII> kevin4381: in gutsy (next version), no idea when it gets released
[03:20] <malocite> I can't use the ati driver, I have to use the open source one, or my monitor goes haywire
[03:20] <NumBeast> mongo: google says http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html
[03:20] <albert`> Jack_Sparrow: thank you, do you know which specific category
[03:20] <kevin4381> techII:  is it easy to upgrade ubuntu?
[03:20] <mongo> Thank you
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> albert`: system admin on live, in synaptic I just tell it to find it
[03:20] <kevin4381> like if I DL gutsy; is there an 'upgrade' option?
[03:20] <blackalex> so someone posted this on the forums: root (hd2,1) ; setup (hd0)
[03:20] <albert`> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[03:20] <kevin4381> or do I have to format?
[03:20] <blackalex> im going to try that; think that might be my solution there?
[03:21] <techII> i wouldn't reccomend using gutsy unless you can fix everything that could happen
[03:21] <lousygarua> malocite: open driver? does it have OpenGL acceleration at all? and what's this elisa program?
[03:21] <malocite> yes
[03:22] <malocite> elisa is a mediacenter type program
[03:22] <sammyF_> !jack
[03:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:22] <kevin4381> techII:  I don't want to use it now.. but when it is officially released...
[03:22] <malocite> !radeon
[03:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:22] <techII> it is supposed to have compiz-fusion in it
[03:22] <NumBeast> /afk birds gotta fly, fish gotta swim, and I gotta program
[03:23] <sammyF_> anybody using a jack enabled sound program, like rosegarden?
[03:23] <crdlb> malocite, unfortunately the radeon driver has poor tv out support, and the proprietary ati driver no longer supports your card
[03:23] <kevin4381> my question is... is it possible to UPGRADE ubuntu? or do you have to format/install every time  a new version comes out (assuming you always want to run the newest version)
[03:23] <malocite> yeah
[03:23] <malocite> i kjnow
[03:23] <crdlb> !upgrade | kevin4381
[03:23] <ubotu> kevin4381: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:23] <d4rkmonkey> kevin4381, you can upgrade
[03:23] <techII> kevin4381: yes
[03:23] <malocite> the old proprietary driver makes my monitor go super bright
[03:23] <Thomsen> malocite: I'm not sure, but maybe you should try disabling some of the modules in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.vesa that is for opengl support, Just a guess though...
[03:23] <Beyond_The_Grave> OK, Rhythm box won't import wma files because it doesn't have the decoder, how do I fix this?
[03:23] <NumBeast> kevin4381: update manager will tell you when there's a new distro out, and you just have to click a button for it to upgrade for you
[03:23] <lousygarua> malocite: yeah, your error comes from openGL
[03:24] <IndyGunFreak> Beyond_The_Grave: import them to what, an ipod, or what?
[03:24] <kevin4381> cool; thanks :)
[03:24] <lousygarua> malocite: maybe bcoz it's loaded on your main X server, you can't load it twice on the additional X server for the TV
[03:24] <sammyF_> Beyond_The_Grave: are those protected?
[03:24] <Beyond_The_Grave> No, just to my library
[03:24] <malocite> thomsen: hmmm.... i'm gonna try disabling everything, see if that works
[03:24] <lousygarua> malocite: so all fails and dies
[03:24] <Thomsen> malocite: don't disable everything, then nothing will work.
[03:24] <malocite> :)
[03:24] <taxman> Beyond_The_Grave: if they are not protected, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:24] <Amon-san> hi, is there a way to install sunbird in feisty via apt/synaptic?
[03:24] <blackalex> grr ive only been using linux for the last 3 days; mainly in the livecd and such (lol) never got the grub to work; whats the command for creating a folder? (sorry for the noob question of the day)
[03:25] <NumBeast> Beyond_The_Grave: if you installed the restriced format stuff you should be able to play them
[03:25] <Beyond_The_Grave> Don't know it says it doesn't have the GStreamer decoder for "ASF"
[03:25] <malocite> thomsen: just disable glx?
[03:25] <Thomsen> malocite: Perhaps try using your normal xorg.xonf file. I'm not sure why you would need another file...
[03:25] <orbisvicis> !pastebin
[03:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:25] <Beyond_The_Grave> I've installed all the GStreamer libs
[03:26] <taxman> blackalex: mkdir on the commandline, or file --> create folder in the gui
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> blackalex: Right click the desktop
[03:26] <rockets> How can I find out which process is opening a certain port?
[03:26] <NumBeast> blackalex: type "man mkdir" but it's not a grub thing
[03:26] <sammyF_> Beyond_The_Grave: outsch .. yeah .. same problem with ASF. VLC can read them fine, but that's it
[03:26] <Beyond_The_Grave> Hmm... so there's no work around it till Rhythmbox does something about it?
[03:26] <sammyF_> Beyond_The_Grave: ASF is really a self_censored_word of a format :(
[03:27] <Bikerbob> hello, I am looking for some PPC bootstrap help? anyone? channel?
[03:27] <taxman> blackalex: yeah, did grub and creating a folder have anything to do with each other, or were those two different thoughts?
[03:27] <blackalex> NumBeast, yeah i know that much; im just mounting my installation in livecd
[03:27] <Thomsen> malocite: I guess. And/or perhaps dri (can't remember what it does)
[03:27] <sammyF_> Beyond_The_Grave: I didn't find one so far. is it just music or video too?
[03:27] <nRkiSt_> I have a long question... what was the addy of the site I'm supposed to post it to please?
[03:27] <albert`> does anyone know how to get Ubuntu's Gparted to redistribute partition space?
[03:27] <Amon-san> is there a way to install sunbird in feisty via apt/synaptic?
[03:27] <taxman> nRkiSt_: see the channel topic
[03:27] <blackalex> so i can use the grub via chroot (using forum)
[03:27] <blackalex> im going to see what a re-installation of grub does
[03:28] <NumBeast> blackalex good luck
[03:28] <taxman> albert`: you can resize some partitions, that would do it
[03:28] <albert`> taxman: Ubuntu won't let me resize anything
[03:28] <hexstar> are each days chat session recorded somewhere on line?
[03:28] <malocite> thomsen: I found these instructions here : http://www.mepis.org/node/7567
[03:28] <taxman> albert`: well you can't resize mounted partitions. Try using the livecd
[03:28] <albert`> oh ok
[03:28] <albert`>  thanks
[03:29] <malocite> thomsen: it says you have to do it this way because of how the atitvout thing works
[03:29] <albert`> taxman: what if I unmounted them?
[03:29] <hexstar> ubuntulog: test
[03:29] <taxman> albert`: you can't really unmount /
[03:29] <hexstar> e.g. what is ubuntulog for?
[03:29] <albert`> taxman: thank you
[03:29] <albert`> taxman: I have 5 partitions
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> albert`: you cant unmount the active partition you are using
[03:29] <albert`> taxman: Would it be to safe to unmount my windows partitions
[03:29] <blackalex> crap;
[03:29] <nRkiSt_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31615/
[03:29] <Amon-san> is there a way to install sunbird in feisty via apt/synaptic?
[03:30] <taxman> albert`: yes, you can umount everything else. But seriously, get good backups first
[03:30] <d4rkmonkey> Amon-san, I don't believe so
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> albert`: Max is 4 primary partitions.. your swap is probably in an extended partition
[03:30] <blackalex> i cant figure out how to chroot into my ubuntu installation :(
[03:30] <Bikerbob> can anyone suggest a better channel for PPC help?
[03:30] <albert`> taxman: thanks
[03:30] <hexstar> please anyone knowm my answer?
[03:30] <hexstar> where are the ops
[03:30] <hexstar> ?
[03:30] <hexstar> !ops
[03:30] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[03:30] <Amon-san> d4rkmonkey: okay, thanks anyways
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > hexstar
[03:30] <albert`> jack_sparrow: My problem is the unallocated space between C and E drive can be used to create a new partition. But anything between Ubuntu and XP cannot be created
[03:30] <jt3k> !ttop10
[03:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ttop10 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <jt3k> )
[03:31] <d4rkmonkey> Amon-san, its not that hard to compile though
[03:31] <Thomsen> malocite: Sorry I don't know more about this. Using nvidia myself :-)
[03:31] <hexstar> !top10
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about top10 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <Amon-san> i'm a total ubuntu newb
[03:31] <malocite> send me your card
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> albert`: Max primary partitions is 4
[03:31] <malocite> thomsen: I am so sick of this
[03:31] <hexstar> I made a hack that allows 100 primary partitions
[03:31] <taxman> blackalex: chroot isn't really a beginner thing. Tell us what you have tried and what isn't working with grub
[03:31] <albert`> jack_sparrow: Thanks, can extended partitions be used for OS such as Vista?
[03:31] <jt3k> 66 2 *!*@*
[03:31] <hexstar> albert: yes
[03:31] <hexstar> jt3k: what?
[03:32] <Amon-san> i would not want any software on my system unless i can control if it's there, ecxept via packet manager
[03:32] <albert`> hextar: Thanks guys. I trust you guys, gonna go backup, then do my extended. bye
[03:32] <nRkiSt_> I have a question at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31615/
[03:32] <hexstar> lol...everyone calls me hextar
[03:32] <jt3k> bye bye to all
[03:32] <jt3k> )
[03:32] <blackalex> can someone please spend some time with my grub "error 17" issue; raid 3114 (fakeraid installed through alternate cd already); ?
[03:32] <hexstar> jt3k: i9520sod
[03:32] <Amaranth> hexstar: Do not call !ops to get random questions answered
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> albert`: Vista people may be able to help with that.. and o there isnt a hack for 100 orimary partitions
[03:32] <Eugene12> !top10
[03:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about top10 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:32] <jt3k>  what?
[03:33] <hexstar> Amaranth: well, what is ubunulog for? does it save these chats somewhere online?
[03:33] <Amaranth> hexstar: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[03:33] <hexstar> aha cool
[03:34] <blackalex> anyone? :( three days and ive gone from a error 18 to an error 17
[03:34] <taxman> nRkiSt_: well your cable modem isn't offering an ip address to your computer by dhcp I'd assume. You need to configure the ip address of the cable modem with the default gateway address, nameservers, etc that your ISP gave you at initial setup
[03:34] <blackalex> dont know if thats an improvement or not
[03:34] <taxman> nRkiSt_: and sorry, I don't know how to do that, just that that's most likely what you need to do
[03:35] <Amaranth> blackalex: afaik your / partition cannot be on fakeraid
[03:35] <blackalex> ?
[03:35] <Amaranth> blackalex: grub error 17 means grub can't read the partition you told it to mount
[03:36] <blackalex> well i did it automatically because im new to linux
[03:36] <Civik> Anyone help me with getting my 4 way scroll to work when i click the scroll button?
[03:36] <blackalex> using the alternate install cd
[03:36] <Safrole> so I'm trying to run a debian file and I got the following error "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libc6" However, I have that package installed.
[03:36] <Safrole> Anyone have any idea what is going on here?
[03:36] <myself_> Safrole: did you try sudo ldconfig?
[03:36] <Amaranth> Safrole: you've got a package for debian sid, not ubuntu 7.04
[03:36] <fragalot> hi, i'm trying to set up a friends bootloader (lilo) again after he installed windows aswell, but i can't get the lillo.conf properl done. -> FATAL: trying to map files from unnamed device..... (NFS/RAID mirror down?)
[03:36] <fragalot> any suggestions? i'll nopaste the lilo.conf, hold on
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Safrole: Could have the wrong version installed
[03:37] <nRkiSt_> taxman the cable modem offers dhcp.  when I plug the net cable into the computer with the computer power OFF, and the modem powered ON, there is no acitvity light blinking on the modem, which it does all the time when the computer is OFF and networked thru the router
[03:37] <Safrole> this is a .deb file for pidgin-encryption
[03:37] <boyam> !ops
[03:37] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[03:37] <taxman> nRkiSt_: you may need a crossover cable to connect the cable modem directly to your computer
[03:37] <wastrel> hi welcome to ubuntu
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> boyam: What did you need
[03:38] <myself_> fragalot: why are you using lilo? use grub...
[03:38] <taxman> nRkiSt_: do you have the cable modem manual?
[03:38] <boyam> looked like a flood frm koaguin
[03:38] <St3a1tH> hey guys , which package  contains that tryicon to network manager in gnome ?
[03:38] <fragalot> http://rafb.net/p/aV1xMS19.html <--
[03:38] <nRkiSt_> taxman never heard of a cat 5 crossover, but i'll look thanks
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> nRkiSt_: Very common cable, they also make adapters
[03:39] <St3a1tH> i do not see the trayicon anymore
[03:39] <hexstar> wow what does fabbione do for a living Amaranth?
[03:39] <techII> St3a1tH: network-manager-gnome, i think
[03:39] <Amaranth> hexstar: work on ubuntu
[03:39] <taxman> Jack_Sparrow: though the cable's usually cheaper unless you get lucky
[03:39] <nRkiSt_> ok guys i'll see if i have the original modem cable
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> taxman: I make my own...  Later friends.. play nice
[03:40] <St3a1tH> techII it is installe
[03:40] <hexstar> Amaranth: heh cool..quite a neat collection of networking equipment
[03:40] <St3a1tH> but no icon
[03:40] <St3a1tH> :
[03:40] <St3a1tH> :/
[03:40] <techII> no idea then
[03:40] <myself_> fragalot: do you get that when you try to boot, or when lilo runs...
[03:40] <jday> ?
[03:41] <myself_> fragalot: try sudo cfdisk /dev/sda and see if your windows partition shows up
[03:41] <hexstar> !info cfdisk
[03:41] <ubotu> Package cfdisk does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[03:41] <wastrel> St3a1tH:  is your notification area still in the panel?
[03:41] <St3a1tH> yep
[03:42] <hexstar> pdisk > cfdisk
[03:43] <techII> is there any easy (already written) way to replace all 64 bit binaries on a machine with 32 bit ones?
[03:43] <wastrel> St3a1tH:  what happens if you try to run it from the command line?
[03:43] <nadis> so many people ...~~
[03:43] <St3a1tH> nothing , i tried nm-applet , it starts , but i get no icon
[03:43] <Stormx2> Hi, is there a nice way to compare two binary files?
[03:43] <techII> may be a configuration issue
[03:44] <myself_> Stormx2: try cmp
[03:44] <hexstar> Stormx2: diff
[03:44] <Stormx2> hexstar: Diff just says "two binary files differ"
[03:44] <St3a1tH> damn , today i just update wpasupplicant , and broke a lot of my system
[03:44] <myself_> Stormx2: what do you expect it to say?
[03:44] <hexstar> Stormx: that means they're different
[03:44] <hexstar> !man cmp
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about man cmp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:45] <Stormx2> myself_: uhg. Well, I need to edit a binary file by-hand
[03:45] <myself_> Stormx2: try hexdump
[03:45] <hexstar> Stormx2: why? you'll have to do that in a hex editor or a assembly decompiler
[03:45] <petafile> How can you enable xdmcp remotely (over ssh)  I wanto set up VNC from 100 miles away :)
[03:46] <hexstar> petafile: http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/
[03:46] <wastrel> Stormx2:  there's a vi-like hex editor that i'm grooving on lately callec
[03:46] <petafile> hexstar: thanks
[03:46] <wastrel> called, hexer
[03:46] <Stormx2> Cool
[03:46] <hexstar> petafile: np :)
[03:46] <myself_> Stormx2: try for x in "fila" "fileb"; do hexdump $x > $x.hex; done && diff filea.hex fileb.hex
[03:46] <Stormx2> Any other hex editors? ;)
[03:46] <hexstar> isn't there a linux decompiler called dcc or something?
[03:47] <myself_> Stormx2: hexdump isn't a hex editor
[03:47] <hexstar> Stormx2: http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/
[03:47] <hexstar> oops
[03:47] <hexstar> I meant http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=linux+hex+editor&btnG=Google+Search
[03:47] <myself_> Stormx2: search freshmeat.net for hex editor
[03:47] <Stormx2> Okay, cool.
[03:47] <Stormx2> Thanks
[03:47] <coastermaster> my ubuntu installation hangs at a black screen when I try to suspend my laptop, is there a way I can see a log or something to know what's wrong?
[03:47] <Stormx2> I've been set a challenge :)
[03:48] <techII> "aptitude install hexedit"
[03:48] <myself_> techII: aptitude?
[03:48] <myself_> !info aptitude
[03:48] <ubotu> aptitude: terminal-based apt frontend. In component main, is important. Version 0.4.4-1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 1428 kB, installed size 8556 kB
[03:48] <blackalex> ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[03:48] <blackalex> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[03:49] <blackalex> could someone please explain this so i can fix my grub?
[03:49] <hexstar> !apt-get
[03:49] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[03:49] <myself_> blackalex: sudo mount -l | grep /boot
[03:50] <meme20> myself_: you don't need sudo for that
[03:50] <hexstar> df -h | grep /boot would also work
[03:50] <blackalex> and what does that do?
[03:50] <hexstar> !calculate 1/0
[03:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about calculate 1/0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:51] <taxman> blackalex: from what I heard, you only have a RAID device?
[03:51] <hexstar> blackalex: it detemrines where /boot is
[03:51] <wastrel> use wcalc
[03:51] <hexstar> paste the output of df -h | grep /boot here
[03:51] <andyho623> how's it going tonight? :)
[03:51] <Nutubuntu> I am looking for a keyboard macro or abbreviation-expander package for Feisty, similar to the WIndows FOSS program AutoHotKey. Has anyone run across one?
[03:51] <hexstar> !macro
[03:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about macro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:52] <cdr> #ubuntu-es
[03:52] <blackalex> and i guess is grep /boot doesnt find /boot i have an issue then?
[03:52] <blackalex> its loading atm
[03:52] <hexstar> Nutubuntu: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/5594
[03:52] <Nutubuntu> hexstar,  t/y
[03:52] <hexstar> Nutubuntu: np :)
[03:52] <hexstar> blackalex: what's loading?
[03:52] <blackalex> i ran grep /boot
[03:53] <blackalex> and it seems to be waiting / searching
[03:53] <hexstar> blackalex: did you get anything back?
[03:53] <obf213> how do i get a trashcan to beon my desktop?
[03:53] <hexstar> oh...
[03:53] <bruenig> grep /boot doesn't do anything
[03:53] <bruenig> it will just pause
[03:53] <hexstar> black alex...do a ctrl+c to stop that action. You have to type the whole command together (without quotes) "df -h | grep /boot"
[03:53] <bruenig> and wait for real input
[03:54] <blackalex> oh no that doesnt print out anything
[03:54] <wastrel> !icons | obf213
[03:54] <ubotu> obf213: Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[03:54] <hexstar> blackalex, that command I just told you to do returns nothing?
[03:54] <blackalex> yeah
[03:54] <bruenig> df -h only wokrs on partitions
[03:54] <wastrel> mounted
[03:54] <hexstar> oh
[03:55] <bruenig> du -h /boot
[03:55] <qazwsx> what is a good movie player to use on ubuntu desktio feisty fawn?
[03:55] <jport> vlc
[03:55] <PF|WSTP> mplayer is good too
[03:55] <obf213> wastrel thanks a lot
[03:55] <blackalex> ok it found a /boot/grub folder
[03:55] <hexstar> qazwsx: windows media player
[03:55] <andyho623> vlc plays just about anything
[03:55] <bruenig> they all are pretty much equal in format support, so just pick your favorite
[03:55] <techII> i usually use vlc
[03:55] <PF|WSTP> Im trying to install psyBNC, but it says I need ncurses. I did an apt-cache search but there's a lot of choices. Could someone point me to what I need to install?
[03:55] <techII> it isn't the most userfriendly though
[03:56] <Nutubuntu> hexstar,  that was an interesting article and probably I'll find many uses for m4. I am really looking for something that will trap key sequences (for example, " str ") and expand them on the fly into (for example) "my input string is pushed into a keyboard buffer somehow and then dumped into whatever I'm writing in gedit now."
[03:56] <bruenig> vlc plays stuff that mplayer plays
[03:56] <MongooseWA> you can view stuff with divx codecs in ubuntu, right?
[03:56] <techII> yes
[03:56] <jport> yup
[03:56] <rockets> cupsd is opening port 631, is there a way to stop that
[03:56] <techII> given that you have the codecs
[03:56] <bruenig> rockets, don't run it?
[03:56] <blackalex> so what do i do?
[03:56] <r00723r0> how do i get what version of a program is installed
[03:56] <andyho623> for some reason I can't get my firefox and thunderbird to open now that I'm using kubuntu instad of ubuntu?!?
[03:56] <hexstar> rockets: killall cupsd
[03:56] <rockets> bruenig, i need to be able to print . . . all 631 is, is the web interface
[03:57] <rockets> hexstar, ... i dont want to stop cups
[03:57] <Stormx2> Okay.
[03:57] <hexstar> rockets: oh
[03:57] <r00723r0> how do i get what version of a program is installed
[03:57] <n2diy> Nutubuntu: have you looked at " loadkeys" ?
[03:57] <rockets> i want to get rid of the web interface
[03:57] <Stormx2> I downloaded a few hex editors and i'ma try em out. :)
[03:57] <PF|WSTP> Im trying to install psyBNC, but it says I need ncurses. I did an apt-cache search but there's a lot of choices. Could someone point me to what I need to install?
[03:57] <techII> rockets: on loopback (localhost) or the network?
[03:57] <hexstar> rockets: then reverse these steps: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/13/enabling-cupsys-web-admin-interface/
[03:57] <bruenig> rockets, why exactly? it isn't a security concern
[03:57] <hexstar> techll: haha, itching to make a ipfw rule? :D
[03:57] <Stormx2> PF|WSTP: Something like ncurses-dev?
[03:57] <rockets> i dont want any ports open that dont need to be. ill NEVER use the web interface
[03:58] <PF|WSTP> Stormx2: I'll try it
[03:58] <rockets> it provides me no benifit other then a possible vulnerability
[03:58] <Nutubuntu> rockets - https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/cups.html
[03:58] <rockets> thanks
[03:58] <Nutubuntu> n2diy,  no, I'll look for it now, t/y :)
[03:58] <PF|WSTP> thanks Stormx2
[03:58] <dug__> what's the keyboard shutcut to lock the screen? (go to screensaver) or is there one?
[03:59] <n2diy> Nutubuntu: check the man page, I don't know if there is any other docs on it?
[03:59] <hexstar> rockets: you could do ipfw add deny tcp from any to any portnumber in
[03:59] <meme20> Nutubuntu: how does that help rockets ?
[03:59] <rockets> ah nevermind it listens on loopback only
[03:59] <rockets> so it doesnt matter
[03:59] <meme20> Nutubuntu: it doesn't actually say anywhere in there how to turn off the web interface.
[03:59] <bruenig> rockets, it appears to only work on loopback
[03:59] <rockets> yup.
[03:59] <rockets> still dont need it. but its fine.
[03:59] <marc_> Whats the best way to back up Data on a LVM ?
[03:59] <hexstar> marc_: cp?
[03:59] <bruenig> rockets, oh by the way it looks like /etc/cups/cupsd.conf will do it
[03:59] <kitche> hexstar: are you telling him BSD firewall commands in a linux channel? lol
[04:00] <hexstar> kitche: lol oops
[04:00] <marc_> hexstar:  Fault Tolerance, I should say?
[04:00] <hexstar> marc_: oh
[04:00] <blackalex> ok.  i really havent a clue what to do.  still the same thing.  havent got much help yet.  please help me with my grub setup; i liked the help i gotten so far but again, im kinda NeW to this so ...
[04:00] <hexstar> kitche: which firewall does ubuntu use?
[04:00] <noccy> hm. mbmon gives me "Floating point exception (core dumped)" when i try to run it. has anyone got a clue about what might be up with that? :S
[04:00] <kitche> hexstar: same as other linux's iptables
[04:00] <techII> iptables
[04:01] <hexstar> kitche: ah
[04:01] <dug__> what's the keyboard shutcut to lock the screen? (go to screensaver) or is there one?
[04:01] <zerokill88> I am installing ubuntu on another computer of mine. if there is lack of ram, will that cause the livecd to lag?
[04:01] <bruenig> zerokill88, yes
[04:01] <wastrel> dug__:  ctrl-alt-l
[04:01] <zerokill88> bruenig ok, but once its installed it shouldnt lag, well at least not as much
[04:01] <Count1> uhh, hi, im a current fedora user wanted to switch to ubuntu, any reason i shouldn't?
[04:01] <n2diy> zerokill88: absolutly, the live CD lives in ram.
[04:01] <hexstar> fudge and I thought I was actually learning the linux firewall with ipfw :P
[04:01] <dug__> thankyou
[04:01] <bruenig> zerokill88, true
[04:01] <zerokill88> n2diy i was thinking that was the case
[04:02] <bruenig> Count1, any reason you should?
[04:02] <Count1> bruenig: i cant get anything to work in fedora...
[04:02] <taxman> Count1: if it works perfectly and you don't want to figure out anything new, then don't :)
[04:02] <bruenig> Count1, like?
[04:02] <hexstar> ah well...ubuntu shall be on my mac mini soon enough (c'mon bank transfer..go!!)
[04:02] <aum_> hi - are there any decent non-linear video editors for ubuntu?
[04:02] <hexstar> non linear?
[04:03] <meme20> aum_: cinelerra is okay
[04:03] <meme20> aum_: they all suck though
[04:03] <Count1> bruenig: my webcam, plus fedora locks up on shutdown/restart, requiring a manual restart
[04:03] <aum_> hexstar: it's a video term
[04:03] <taxman> aum_: depends on your definition of decent, but there is a list on Wikipedia somewhere of non line linux vid editors
[04:03] <hexstar> aum_: gee thanks :P
[04:03] <techII> aum_: kino is the only one I can think of right now
[04:03] <hexstar> !non-linear
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about non-linear - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <aum_> kino sucks, you can't even cross-fade between clips
[04:03] <Nutubuntu> meme20,  maybe I misunderstood rockets issue - thought this appeared to be to the point "By default on Ubuntu, the CUPS server installation listens only on the loopback interface at IP address 127.0.0.1. In order to instruct the CUPS server to listen on an actual network adapter's IP address, you must specify either a hostname, the IP address, or optionally, an IP address/port pairing via the addition of a Listen directive."
[04:04] <hexstar> Nutubuntu: it's now a non issue because he discovered it's only listening on loopback
[04:04] <bruenig> Count1, webcam support will be equal on both distros, the shutdown restart thing should be easily fixable at least it would be on a bsd init system, sysv init still baffles me, those problems are fixable though
[04:04] <aum_> kino is just a dumb cut'n'paste app
[04:04] <meme20> Nutubuntu: well, tangentially, i was wondering how to disable the stupid web interface as well... so that doesn't really help.
[04:04] <meme20> aum_: cinelerra looks horrid, but does more than kino
[04:04] <bruenig> Count1, it is probably a poorly written daemon, that would be my first guess
[04:04] <Civik> Anyone help me with getting my 4 way scroll to work when i click the scroll button? i just awnt up and down to work so when i click the button and move the mouse up or down it scrolls
[04:04] <techII> i've never done video editing under linux
[04:05] <aum_> doesn't matter if it looks weird, as long as it can do stuff
[04:05] <meme20> aum_: i've gotten cs2 premiere pro to work with a windows partition having an installed version, but installing cs2 premiere pro was a no go for me
[04:05] <hexstar> guys to disable the cups web interface just reverse these steps: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/13/enabling-cupsys-web-admin-interface/
[04:05] <hexstar> !!
[04:05] <Count1> bruenig: well, i kinda want to stick to one distro, and im kinda not liking fedora all too much, just wanted to find one, with good support thats fast growing, and a community that helps you
[04:05] <hexstar> heh, we need mac on linux intel edition and windows on linux
[04:05] <hexstar> possibly
[04:06] <meme20> hexstar: i want cups to run and no web interface. period. that link in reverse means no cups
[04:06] <noccy> no solutions to my mbmon problems? :(
[04:06] <aum_> i tried kdenlive, looked good but it's very unstable, and full of moronic limitations
[04:06] <vas> hey whats the terminal command to list users n stuff like that
[04:06] <vas> lcoal users
[04:06] <vas> n to add local users'
[04:06] <taxman> aum_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_editing_software has the list I was thinking of
[04:06] <meme20> vas: getent passwd and adduser
[04:06] <vas> thnx
[04:06] <blackalex> ok; ok; is ubuntu really worh the effort? i have a buddy on the net that says that ubuntu is recommended for new users and has good help for setting it up on my computer.  bleh.  im no longer convinced.
[04:06] <hexstar> meme20: wow that sucks...didn't notice that, almost seems like there is no enable/disable facility for the web interface
[04:06] <bruenig> Count1, the fedora error is fixable, whether you wish to go through the necessary documentation to understand how to fix it is up to you I guess. These mega distros seem to hide a lot of the underlying stuff which makes it hard to fix something as easy as your shutdown restart setup, so you can hop around until one gets it right I guess
[04:06] <petafile> I'm trying to log into my router remotely using lynx on an ssh'd box behind it.  It tells me unexpected network read error any thoughts?  Its a netgear wireless router
[04:06] <wastrel> ls /home
[04:06] <blackalex> taking three days to install an operating system
[04:06] <zerokill88> hexstar what you buying you mac mini for?
[04:07] <hexstar> blackalex: what effort? ubuntu is supposed to just work :P
[04:07] <meme20> hexstar: yeah. i don't really like using GUIs either, so go figure
[04:07] <blackalex> yeah tahts what i thought
[04:07] <noccy> hexstar: supposed to? it does just that :D
[04:07] <blackalex> i dont know if its the ubuntu itself
[04:07] <godofredo> blackalex, i was afk what is your issue?
[04:07] <blackalex> or grub
[04:07] <taxman> blackalex: you have an unusual setup. It's not perfect, but patience will be rewarded :)
[04:07] <hexstar> zerokill88: I'm replacing the mac mini and will be replacing os x with ubuntu on the mac mini
[04:07] <||drake||> alright
[04:07] <bruenig> ubuntu is a good starter distro, all linux distros with the exception of gentoo should install in less than an hour or so depending on specs
[04:07] <aum_> taxman, thx
[04:07] <hexstar> will be buying a macbook or if I can find a good deal on ebay, a macbook pro (will only go for new in box)
[04:07] <||drake||> where do i go for wireless configuration help?
[04:07] <zerokill88> hexstar ah i see.do you know if there is any os x emulater?
[04:08] <blackalex> yeah; i have a raid 3114 setup with vista as the original primary; i wanted to eventually to migrate to linux by starting out on a debian os
[04:08] <blackalex> ubuntu
[04:08] <hexstar> zerokill88: pearpc
[04:08] <nRkiSt_> taxman FYI a crossover cable is NOT the problem
[04:08] <zerokill88> bruenig a good starter? its the best
[04:08] <meme20> bruenig: that's FUD. gentoo doesn't take more than 30 minutes on a relatively modern computer with everything mandatory the guide states
[04:08] <choudesh> hey all...guick poll. What does everyone use for Music Management in Ubuntu or Linux in general? I don't like Amarok and Songbird is slow running on XUL.
[04:08] <||drake||> exaile
[04:08] <||drake||> :)
[04:08] <blackalex> but... i have first gotten a grub startup error number 18, did some tweaking in partitions
[04:08] <madman91> hey guys
[04:08] <meme20> choudesh: mplayer and a .pls file
[04:08] <kersinc> #ubuntu-es
[04:08] <blackalex> now im getting error 17
[04:08] <zerokill88> hexstar ya ive seen that.seemed a little to much to install
[04:08] <hexstar> bruenig: what do you mean by starter distro? does ubuntu get that because it requires very little user intervention to install and get working out of box?
[04:08] <bruenig> zerokill88, not so much
[04:08] <madman91> choudesh: i use amarok.. its not slow for me
[04:08] <godofredo> choudesh, rhythmbox
[04:08] <blackalex> and these numbers arent meaning a whole lot to me
[04:08] <Count1> bruenig: i would really like to switch to linux, but there are the small problems that get on my nerves, i really hate microsoft, but all of my work stuff is only on windows, and almost all games only run on windows, so its kinda hard
[04:08] <bruenig> hexstar, starter as in new to linux
[04:08] <||drake||> hey: where do i go for wireless help?
[04:09] <godofredo> Count1, what games?
[04:09] <bruenig> hexstar, if you are starting out with linux if you will
[04:09] <madman91> can someone help me setup an ad-hoc wireless connection to my webcam?
[04:09] <Count1> bruenig: if theres on thing that ive learned about this whole jouney of trying out linux, its that i really need to question my own motives
[04:09] <choudesh> madman91, wasn't saying that Amarok is slow, I just don't like it. Songbird on the other hand is slow because it runs ontop of a XUL
[04:09] <godofredo> Count1, dual boot
[04:09] <zerokill88> bruenig at least for me... ive tried bout 5 6 different distros and the ones that come with my linux cd,and ubuntu is the only one to work fine and dandy with my laptop. completely supports ipw3945
[04:09] <madman91> choudesh: i dislike songbird.. too chunky
[04:09] <choudesh> godofredo, hmm, I will try out rhythmbox. thanks for the suggestion
[04:09] <madman91> choudesh: i find the internet part of songbird fairly useless, to me anyways
[04:09] <meme20> choudesh: what do you need that amarok provides out of curiosity?
[04:09] <godofredo> choudesh, np
[04:09] <rilma> /exit
[04:09] <hexstar> meh I plan to use ubuntu as a server administration test bed :D
[04:09] <bruenig> meme20, it isn't FUD, it depends on how you install it certainly, it will come with a mostly binary base if you want it to, but come on, who wants to do that. If I am going gentoo, I am going full on compiling it all
[04:10] <choudesh> meme20, Smart Playlists for one.
[04:10] <wastrel> server administration?
[04:10] <bruenig> zerokill88, I have ipw3945 and it works on every distro
[04:10] <bruenig> zerokill88, it is working on arch linux as we speak
[04:10] <Eugene12> Hi guys, can I ask someone for a help with suspend/resume on laptop?
[04:10] <zerokill88> bruenig out of the box?
[04:10] <hexstar> wastrel: yeah, to practice my hand at configuring from scratch the various servers like apache and proftpd
[04:10] <meme20> choudesh: i'm not too familiar with that term... meaning based on how many times you've played a song, it gets bumped up or something similar?
[04:10] <bruenig> zerokill88, pacman -S ipw3945, done
[04:10] <blackalex> i guess hoping for someone to PM me is too much to ask for for 1 on 1 help...
[04:10] <hexstar> compile, then configure using ONLY the text config files
[04:10] <madman91> how do i create an ad-hoc wifi connection to a webcam.. what does that mean?
[04:10] <Count1> godofredo: lots, like ive only gotten 3 of the ones i tried to work on linus, and i cant turnt he setting up at all, i have to keep them relatively low
[04:10] <blackalex> donnu if i joined the right channel
[04:10] <bruenig> zerokill88, nothing works out of the box in arch by design
[04:10] <zerokill88> bruenig wow really. with every dirsto?
[04:10] <meme20> bruenig: ah, a fellow arch user :)
[04:11] <madman91> blackalex: i think the same many times
[04:11] <zerokill88> bruenig i just remember hwo hard it was before ubuntu supported ipw3945
[04:11] <godofredo> Count1, i would dual boot, xp for gaming, linux for everything else
[04:11] <blackalex> madman91, at least someone is in my boat
[04:11] <hexstar> bruenig: as in you hve to manually install the packages after install?
[04:11] <hexstar> with arch linux?
[04:11] <blackalex> i just need a good irc chat
[04:11] <choudesh> meme20, no, depending on various criteria... if it is in this genre, before this year...and so on. Think of it as a REGEX for songs
[04:11] <blackalex> i have a gut feeling ubuntu is fine
[04:11] <kitche> zerokill88: you just have to get the firmware pretty much since most kernels now a days in distros support almost all intel stuff that is out
[04:11] <meme20> choudesh: ah, i see
[04:12] <blackalex> just i need 1 on 1 help for installing grub on my raid so that it works
[04:12] <madman91> blackalex: i've learned to be google-sufficient and i have tried other channels.. like #lfd for instance.. but that room on the other hand isnt too packed
[04:12] <Count1> godofredo: well, im trying to think of what the everything else is, i mean, i cant get my webcam to work under linux, and that would be for chatting online with friends, i consider that my everything else...
[04:12] <bruenig> hexstar, right, it is like old school debian was (or still is?). Get the base installed, drops you to vc, you pacman the rest
[04:12] <choudesh> blackalex, just a note. Grub will not boot from RAID 1
[04:12] <zerokill88> kitche thats the thing, different dirstos use different stuff
[04:12] <godofredo> Count1, you can use your webcam in msn
[04:12] <bobsomebody> hey you, stop slowing down the internet!
[04:12] <choudesh> blackalex, software RAID 1 that is.
[04:12] <godofredo> Count1, and other programs
[04:12] <blackalex> i have a theory but i dont know how to do it
[04:12] <kitche> zerokill88: well you still need to get the firmware on ubuntu but they just make it easier :)
[04:12] <Count1> godofredo: on windows...
[04:12] <choudesh> blackalex, software raid or hardware?
[04:12] <blackalex> cant i like install the boot partition to only ONE harddrive?
[04:13] <blackalex> its a silicon software raid
[04:13] <godofredo> Count1, on linux
[04:13] <madman91> what is an ad-hoc network mode
[04:13] <zerokill88> kitche what do you mean. i just type in my essid and pass and im connected
[04:13] <bruenig> zerokill88, oh see arch autoconnects at boot
[04:13] <hexstar> bruenig: sounds like fun
[04:13] <techII> madman91: its where the computers connect to each other, and not through an access point
[04:13] <choudesh> blackalex, ooo have fun. ;-) The best thing I can say is with using a software raid and it having the boot partition is to place grub on both hds
[04:13] <Count1> godofredo: what are you talking about, linux doesnt support my webcam
[04:14] <kitche> zerokill88: the firmware from what I know is part of the driver package that ubuntu and other distros provide others you have to go out and get the firmware yourself
[04:14] <madman91> techII: can it be done through lan --> wireless
[04:14] <Eugene12> Hi guys, can I ask someone for a help with suspend/resume on laptop?
[04:14] <blackalex> choudesh, i used the alternate cd and read the logs
[04:14] <techII> i don't know anything about configuring wireless cards
[04:14] <godofredo> Count1, you can use Gyachi for yahoo webcam and aMSN for msn webcam.....oh i  thought you just meant the OS barrier....
[04:14] <blackalex> and supposably it set things up for me
[04:14] <zerokill88> kitche ah i see what you mean.ya it does make it easier :)
[04:14] <|thunder> look in /etc/network/interface
[04:14] <madman91> Eugene12: ask away.. dont ask to ask.. not too many people available to ask your problem
[04:14] <||drake||> anyone willing to help me setup the intel 3945 wireless card?
[04:14] <choudesh> blackalex, I understand. But grub itself cannot boot from a software raid. Well, not easily for that matter.
[04:14] <blackalex> but i got the error 17 on startup into grub and i dont know how to edit the lst file or anything to see if everything is setup right
[04:14] <andyho623> can someone tell me why I would get $ Segmentation fault (core dumped) when i try to run thunderbird or firefox
[04:15] <bruenig> ||drake||, ask zerokill
[04:15] <hexstar> I hate how people call distros that install everything out of box noob distros...it's just easier :P
[04:15] <vladuz976> hi, i need to purchase a font online. what is the best font format to use under linux? or the easiest. there are different options of true type fonts
[04:15] <locke> Excuse me, but what is the command to echo what kernel i am currently running?
[04:15] <techII> the intergrated wireless on this laptop doesn't have linux drivers yet
[04:15] <Count1> godofredo: no its pretty much doesnt support it at all, i mean, ive heard of people getting it to work online, but im not experience enough of a linux user to do it right, and believe me iver been trying all week
[04:15] <||drake||> zerokill88, you willing to help me setup the intel 3945 wireless card?
[04:15] <madman91> techII: is that to me?
[04:15] <Eugene12> I have a problem with suspend - after resume wireless card is down and I can't restart it. Any ideas?
[04:15] <n2diy> locke: uname  -a
[04:15] <rapid_> ?? wma
[04:15] <hexstar> locke: uname -v
[04:15] <bruenig> hexstar, it depends on what you want, if you want a customized light distro that isn't loading everything needed or unneeded at boot, then those distros get annoying
[04:15] <techII> sort of
[04:15] <choudesh> blackalex, you should just make a 10M partition on the booting HD and make the software raid on the rest of the HD and duplicate it on the other. That way, grub will be booting from the HD instead of the SRAID
[04:16] <litlebuda> locke, uname
[04:16] <locke> thank you
[04:16] <hexstar> bruenig: true
[04:16] <zerokill88> ||drake|| possibly
[04:16] <zerokill88> ||drake|| are you using ubuntu?
[04:16] <locke> ||drake||: which version of ubuntu are you running, my intel 3945 wireless card worked out of box with ubuntu feisty and ubuntu dapper
[04:16] <techII> madman91: i think some sort of bridge (using something like a modified wrt54g) could work, don't ask me about configuring it though
[04:16] <||drake||> zerokill88, i'm running a fresh install of feisty
[04:16] <madman91> techII: alright.. thanks
[04:16] <choudesh> blackalex, The easist way to read the logs is to use the UbunutuLive CD and mount your HD then look in /var/logs
[04:17] <DavidCraft> in their a command line group editor?
[04:17] <bruenig> ||drake||, do any interfaces show up when you do "iwconfig"
[04:17] <zerokill88> hexstar how do i call pearpc if i used apt-get to download.cant find it under applications and the command pearpc doesnt work
[04:17] <madman91> Eugene12: i am looking for the problem on the forums
[04:17] <||drake||> zerokill88, only mods ive done are involving piix so that i can boot
[04:17] <zerokill88> ||drake|| are you connected through a cable or wireless?
[04:17] <hexstar> zerokill88: http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/
[04:17] <||drake||> zerokill88 right now im using my ethernet
[04:17] <bruenig> ||drake||, do any interfaces show up when you do "iwconfig"
[04:17] <devang> does ubuntu work better with NVIDA or ATI?
[04:18] <||drake||> zerokill88 iwconfig gives me lo and etho
[04:18] <Eugene12> madman91: Thanks!
[04:18] <||drake||> zerokill88 sorry, eth0
[04:18] <zerokill88> ||drake|| so your connected to the internet right now with ubuntu?
[04:18] <bruenig> devang, all of gnu/linux works better with nvidia I would say
[04:18] <||drake||> yea
[04:18] <||drake||> but ethernet
[04:18] <||drake||> obviously im on the internet
[04:18] <||drake||> thats how i'm here
[04:18] <godofredo> Count1, huh sorry...that's all i had :P
[04:18] <Count1> godofredo: i've heard of people using tinyXP or something like that, dual booting that with linux, whats that
[04:18] <madman91> Eugene12: there is not much to find.. but there are some links.. hold on
[04:18] <devang> bruenig: do you experience less problems with it too?
[04:18] <bruenig> ||drake||, do "sudo ifconfig eth1 up"
[04:18] <zerokill88> ||drake|| so im asuming you want to set it up wirelessly?
[04:18] <||drake||> yea
[04:18] <BlackAlex[headhu> /BlaX[headhurts] 
[04:18] <bruenig> devang, it is a matter of drivers, nvidia has them and they are good, ati not so much
[04:19] <zerokill88> ||drake|| yuo havent givin me any specific problem yet
[04:19] <hexstar> does ifconfig eth* up work?
[04:19] <devang> bruenig: ah okay thanks
[04:19] <zerokill88> ||drake|| ok
[04:19] <madman91> Eugene12: could this help?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1277079
[04:19] <bruenig> hexstar, I don't think it supports wildcard characters
[04:19] <hexstar> bruenig: oh
[04:19] <godofredo> Count1, not familiar with tinyxp but, dual-booting is simplist from the install disc with an existing windows partition.
[04:19] <Eugene12> madman91: I know - I looked already but couldn't find anything interesting
[04:19] <ComputinChuck> i'm having some trouble with fullscreen games on ubuntu, i have the nvidia drivers installed and the games run quite well, but every so often they will pop out of fullscreen for a while.  any idea why this might happen?
[04:19] <bruenig> ||drake||, does that work?
[04:19] <||drake||> zerokill88 all my problems are listed here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3092966#post3092966
[04:19] <zerokill88> hexstar shouldnt it be eth1 by default?
[04:19] <zerokill88> ||darke|| ok 1 sec
[04:19] <locke> zerokill88: mine is eth1 by default, yea
[04:19] <hexstar> zerokill88: yeah, I was just wondering if one could do that to bring everything up at once
[04:19] <n2diy> hexstar: ifup ethX
[04:19] <||drake||> zerokill88 i've already done all of the stuff you're asking :)
[04:20] <madman91> Eugene12: did you see that link?
[04:20] <madman91> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1277079
[04:20] <Eugene12> madman91: Let me look...
[04:20] <Count1> godofredo: how would i get linux to read from the windows partition, because i have a NTFS with a lot of stuff on it i can only access from windows...
[04:20] <bruenig> ||drake||, did you run the ifconfig command I told you to
[04:20] <madman91> Count1: ntfs-config
[04:20] <madman91> Count1: its a package
[04:20] <zerokill88> hexstar oh ok
[04:20] <bruenig> !info ntfs-config
[04:20] <||drake||> zerokill88 yup
[04:20] <obf213> how do i delete a protected file from my trash
[04:20] <madman91> obf213: you could sudo rm it .. but be careful
[04:20] <locke> madman91: he doesn't need that package to just read from ntfs, only to write to it no? couldn't he just mount it?
[04:20] <hexstar> !info ntfs-config
[04:20] <godofredo> Count1, like madman91 said...g2g...good luck
[04:21] <ubotu> ntfs-config: Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 41 kB, installed size 432 kB
[04:21] <andrubuntu> where is best to get ubuntu server IRC support?
[04:21] <zerokill88> ||darke|| hmmm, it should work out of the box.,let me check something
[04:21] <obf213> madman91 its an image
[04:21] <||drake||> zerokill88 it said: sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[04:21] <||drake||> eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[04:21] <hexstar> andrubuntu: here
[04:21] <Eugene12> madman91: yes, that's not related to my issue - I don't see wifi network card after resume
[04:21] <obf213> for some reason its protected, i delted it off my fat32 it just made that hidden folder
[04:21] <obf213> and im trying to get rid of that folder for good
[04:21] <bruenig> ||drake||, do "sudo modprobe ipw3945"
[04:21] <Eugene12> madman91: tried to reload all modules related to pcmcia - didn't help
[04:21] <madman91> locke: chances are he will probably want to write to them as well
[04:21] <madman91> locke: and that sets up reading and/or writing
[04:21] <||drake||> bruenig already done
[04:22] <||drake||> says it cant
[04:22] <madman91> Eugene12: hm.. i found something like that
[04:22] <||drake||> lemme get you the exact result
[04:22] <bruenig> ||drake||, modprobe fails?
[04:22] <BlackAlex[headhu> choudesh, ive been at this for so long i dont know what im doing anymore and how to do it or in what steps; im on a bit of information overload
[04:22] <zerokill88> ||darke|| do this....    sudo apt-get install wifi-radar
[04:22] <bruenig> zerokill88, what are you talking about
[04:22] <bruenig> zerokill88, his interface isn't even up
[04:22] <zerokill88> bruenig i wana see if his wireless card is working
[04:22] <hexstar> lol
[04:22] <bruenig> zerokill88, that is what iwconfig is for...
[04:22] <zerokill88> bruenig doesnt hurt
[04:22] <hexstar> it *might* work if the cd is in the sources file
[04:22] <zerokill88> bruenig i know
[04:23] <choudesh> BlackAlex[headhu, understanding....let me grab you a tutorial that will explain it a bit better.
[04:23] <n2diy> herding cats
[04:23] <||drake||> bruenig please just read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3092966
[04:23] <||drake||> thatll  catch you up
[04:23] <choudesh> BlackAlex[headhu, what are you using again for a software raid?
[04:23] <bruenig> ||drake||, tell me what happens when you sudo modprobe ipw3945
[04:23] <hexstar> !raid
[04:23] <BlackAlex[headhu> ?
[04:23] <andrubuntu> Ok. So I'm confused.  Want to set up school computer network (dual boot Ubuntu / XP machines) with an Ubuntu fileserver to authenticate and host student files in their own home directories.  I'm seeing Samba, NFS, LDAP, AD...which of these do I actually need and where's the best tutorial on this configuration?
[04:23] <ubotu> Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[04:23] <||drake||> bruenig the output is in the link i just sent you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3092966
[04:23] <BlackAlex[headhu> the built in software that came with my pc from abit
[04:23] <BlackAlex[headhu> raid 3114 software
[04:23] <||drake||> 2007-07-27 22:00:44: ERROR: Could not find Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection
[04:24] <Eugene12> madman91: was it far? ;)
[04:24] <madman91> Eugene12: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/58247 maybe?
[04:24] <bruenig> ||drake||, that is what happens when you do the modprobe?
[04:24] <locke> If I am running kernel: 2.6.20-16-generic, then the wireless driver that I am running should also be within that folder right?
[04:24] <||drake||> yes
[04:24] <zerokill88> ||darke|| the problems you had were exactly the same as mine. the way i fixed it was someone had a script to install everything.let me see if i can find that
[04:24] <madman91> Eugene12: i had to go back through my google searches
[04:24] <hexstar> andrubuntu: to set samba as a domain controller for centralized account authentication: http://www.freeos.com/articles/3842/
[04:24] <||drake||> zerokill did you read that stuff about ieeeeeeeeeeeee?
[04:24] <Eugene12> madman91: thanks - let me see...
[04:24] <andrubuntu> Thanks hexstar I'll have a look!
[04:24] <||drake||> zerokill88 i feel i may have messed up my kernel while attempting things
[04:24] <choudesh> BlackAlex[headhu, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-15605.html
[04:24] <bruenig> man ubuntu needs better ipw3945 support
[04:25] <hexstar> andrubuntu: you're welcome :)
[04:25] <Joenin> sup?
[04:25] <madman91> Eugene12: thats the problem.. i dont know if that solution will work
[04:25] <bruenig> !find ipw3945
[04:25] <locke> bruenig: my ipw3945 worked out of box =x
[04:25] <ubotu> File ipw3945 found in linux-restricted-modules-common
[04:25] <hexstar> who needs to pay hundreds for windowz when samba can be a domain controller :D
[04:25] <madman91> Eugene12: read through all of those.. and if you make any changes, remember where you made them to fix them later
[04:25] <bruenig> ||drake||, do you have linux-restricted-modules-common installed?
[04:25] <Joenin> confidential
[04:25] <electric_d> Arg! Can anyone explain this? My Mac OS 10.4 laptop can get an address via DHCP from my cable modem, but my router and my fiesty box can't. (!!!)
[04:26] <locke> ||drake||: did you enable it in restricted-modules assuming you have it installed?
[04:26] <||drake||> bruenig i'll check... i have done literally nothing since installing feisty other than stuff involving piix to make it work on my sata drive
[04:26] <Eugene12> madman91: a lot of reading :) Thanks for pointing!
[04:26] <hexstar> electric_d: is the router and laptop connected directly to the modem? I assume if ys that means the modem has two ethernet ports?
[04:26] <locke> ||drake||:  System >> Administration >> Restricted Drivers Manager
[04:26] <madman91> Eugene12: it looks like the problem.. so you might pick up a bit of little solutions and patch them together
[04:26] <Count1> i have a question about LAN games on linux...
[04:26] <madman91> Eugene12: good luck
[04:26] <madman91> !ask > Count1
[04:26] <choudesh> are the repos slow tonight? (US, East Coast)
[04:26] <Count1> Would it be possible to LAN party with a cross of linux and windows
[04:26] <electric_d> hexstar: No, I have the router unplugged at the moment. Modem only has one ethernet port.
[04:26] <bruenig> ||drake||, good idea to try to get stuff done through package management before hauling off and compiling if you can
[04:26] <||drake||> locke: tried that: it says i dont have anything that needs it
[04:27] <ET_> Count1 yes
[04:27] <slipaway172> why just not be so cheap and use the stable and most secure operating system. By Symantec. WINDOWS
[04:27] <techII> Count1: if the games are the same
[04:27] <andrubuntu> Is there any headache (other than administrative) with having dual boot machines authenticating against the same Samba fileshares?  I know that ubuntu has issues writing to NTFS...does this apply to a fileserver?
[04:27] <techII> or use the same protocol
[04:27] <bruenig> ||drake||, just try to sudo apt-get install that package I mentioned above
[04:27] <hexstar> electric_d: so what is the usual network setup? Router plugged into modem and laptop and other devices connected through router?
[04:27] <||drake||> bruenig: already had it
[04:27] <madman91> this channel is waaaaaaaayyayyyyyyyyyy tooooo big and fast
[04:27] <locke> bruenig: feisty comes with it
[04:27] <Count1> i tried with Farcry and i was hosting the server and no one could see it...
[04:27] <electric_d> hexstar: yep
[04:27] <||drake||> bruenig: as i said, i just installed feisty
[04:27] <techII> madman91: yes
[04:27] <madman91> Count1: network issue.. not os issue
[04:27] <hexstar> electric_d: did your modem previously work?
[04:27] <madman91> techII: i miss the good old days.. 100 - 300 people tops
[04:27] <slipaway172> does anybody agree with me?
[04:27] <bruenig> ||drake||, so whose forum pst is that?
[04:27] <Count1> madman91: well, how would i fix it
[04:28] <electric_d> hexstar: yes, everything worked normally for months.
[04:28] <||drake||> bruenig: mine
[04:28] <Pelo> madman91,  you'll get the hang of it , just reply to stuff adress to you and ignore the rest
[04:28] <locke> If I am running kernel: 2.6.20-16-generic, then the wireless driver that I am running should also be within that folder right?
[04:28] <||drake||> bruenig: why?
[04:28] <hexstar> electric_d: well what did you do right before it stopped working?
[04:28] <bruenig> ||drake||, so then you did try to compile
[04:28] <madman91> Pelo: i know.. but just looking at this channel makes it depressing
[04:28] <electric_d> hexstar: lol, nothing.
[04:28] <madman91> Pelo: so many problems
[04:28] <electric_d> srsly
[04:28] <hexstar> electric_d: hmmmm...
[04:28] <madman91> Pelo: and no offense, most of them are noobish
[04:28] <madman91> Pelo: but we all start somewhere right :)
[04:28] <||drake||> bruenig: yes... everything i have done is listed on that forum post, nothing excluded
[04:28] <hexstar> electric_d: when you plug in the modem all its lights turn green?
[04:28] <envi0us> I ssh to my linux box a lot and my linux box's ip address frequently changes, so I was wondering if it is possible to add a hostname to the linux box without adding anything to my windows xp host file.
[04:29] <electric_d> hexstar: Everything about the modem seems normal.
[04:29] <andrubuntu> There ought to be variant channels, such as ubuntu server, ubuntu support, ubuntu intermediate support, etc.
[04:29] <hexstar> hmm...
[04:29] <techII> envi0us: /etc/hosts
[04:29] <litlebuda> madman91, no no  so many solutions :)
[04:29] <electric_d> #noobuntu
[04:29] <choudesh> envi0us, open a terminal and type `hostname` and `hostname whatever` to set it. Also use /etc/hosts.
[04:29] <CerebroJD> ^ lol
[04:29] <BSDaemon> envi0us: if the address changes then /etc/hosts won't help, you'd need a static IP
[04:29] <choudesh> !wireless | choudesh
[04:29] <choudesh> I miss the bots. ;-(
[04:30] <||drake||> !wireless
[04:30] <ys76> get yourself?
[04:30] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:30] <bruenig> ||drake||, right like I said though, best to try to go through package management when possible
[04:30] <choudesh> ||drake||, did they change permissions so only a few could use them?
[04:30] <||drake||> bruenig: i understand, but that doesnt help me now
[04:30] <hexstar> electric_d: well, did you ever reset the routers settings?
[04:30] <electric_d> hexstar: Yeah, tried that.
[04:30] <r00723r0> how do i get what version of a program is installed?
[04:30] <RoundyT1> anyone up for helping me make a quick python program?
[04:30] <||drake||> bruenig: plus, how was i supposed to know what packages to look for?
[04:31] <hexstar> electric_d: what I'm suspecting is that somehow the router wants to use a different mac address and the ISP doesn't like it
[04:31] <locke> choudesh: i believe it was just your syntax
[04:31] <||drake||> bruenig: all i wanted was a driver for something that was supposed to come standard
[04:31] <bruenig> ||drake||, this is a good place it appears, but this didn't actually install anything
[04:31] <choudesh> !wireless choudesh
[04:31] <locke> !wireless
[04:31] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:31] <choudesh> !wireless
[04:31] <n2diy> r00723r0: from the command line, or gui?
[04:31] <electric_d> hexstar: hmm, ok, i might be able to have the router spoof the MAC of the mac laptop
[04:31] <hexstar> electric_d: does the router in the web interface have the ability to change the mac address?
[04:31] <CerebroJD> electric_d, does your router have an option to change the mac address?
[04:31] <bruenig> ||drake||, your compilation didn't actually do anything but fail right?
[04:31] <BlackAlex[headhu> my aspirations for linux are going down... plunging... these howtos are losing me when i get permission denied, la la, "inavlid"... its starting to be too much
[04:31] <choudesh> Nope, it must hate me. ;-)
[04:31] <r00723r0> n2diy: command line
[04:31] <hexstar> electric_d: right, that's what I'd do
[04:31] <CerebroJD> electric_d, there ya go, ;)
[04:31] <electric_d> thanks, I'll give it a try.
[04:31] <||drake||> bruenig: correct... but im afraid i may have messed up my kernel
[04:32] <n2diy> r00723r0: try program-name -v
[04:32] <hexstar> electric_d: have the router spoof a mac address of one of the machines that can connect to the internet when directly connected to the modem
[04:32] <BlackAlex[headhu> choudesh thanks for trying to help but im ditching this just give me a sec till i get ubuntu installed
[04:32] <||drake||> bruenig: any idea on how to check that?
[04:32] <electric_d> right
[04:32] <r00723r0> n2diy: it's a driver
[04:32] <choudesh> BlackAlex[headhu, sure.
[04:32] <bruenig> ||drake||, I am looking at the build script on arch and it is pretty heavily patched so that might be the problem
[04:32] <hexstar> electric_d: ISP's only allow one mac address to connect to their network through each unique modem to prevent abuse
[04:32] <techII> hexstar: some modems also do nat
[04:32] <bruenig> ||drake||, it shouldn't touch the kernel, all it will do is build against the kernel, then you have to move over the .ko file that it creates
[04:33] <BlackAlex[headhu> are there any bootloaders out there choudesh that you know of that can work better than grub for raid1 users?
[04:33] <hexstar> techll: yeah, but this modem only has one ethernet port
[04:33] <n2diy> r00723r0: well, you asked about a program, and thats how it is done. For modules, use lsmod.
[04:33] <r00723r0> n2diy: through apt, i meant
[04:33] <hexstar> I had to clone my macs mac address on my router to get it to work
[04:33] <||drake||> bruenig: but what about all that ieeee stuff?
[04:33] <DavidCraft> how do you add a user to a group
[04:33] <techII> mine does too, but still does it
[04:33] <DavidCraft> ?
[04:34] <hexstar> davidcraft: adduser -G groupname username
[04:34] <bruenig> ||drake||, that is the point it to the kernel so it knows what the build against
[04:34] <||drake||> word
[04:34] <bruenig> ||drake||, for it to work you needed to have installed the kernel source
[04:34] <hexstar> lol
[04:34] <n2diy> r00723r0: ok, there is  a way to do it, but I'm not familiar with it. the man page might help you.
[04:34] <r00723r0> that's definitely not right, hexstar
[04:34] <||drake||> how do i know what kernel i am currently running again?
[04:34] <r00723r0> it's with usermod, hexstar
[04:34] <||drake||> uname -(something)
[04:34] <r00723r0> or something like that
[04:34] <bruenig> ||drake||, uname -a
[04:34] <||drake||> thanks
[04:34] <hexstar> r00723r0: no  I've used adduser -G, it works
[04:34] <bruenig> ||drake||, or uname -r, there are a bunch of  options, uname -a gives the most
[04:34] <r00723r0> ok.. weird
[04:34] <||drake||> Linux bluenote 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Jun 7 20:19:32 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:35] <||drake||> taht look al;right?
[04:35] <||drake||> ahh typos
[04:35] <hexstar> r00723r0:  useradd - Adding a new user
[04:35] <hexstar> Options:
[04:35] <hexstar>     * -d home directory
[04:35] <hexstar>     * -s starting program (shell)
[04:35] <hexstar>     * -p password
[04:35] <hexstar>     * -g (primary group assigned to the users)
[04:35] <hexstar>     * -G (Other groups the user belongs to)
[04:35] <hexstar>     * -m (Create the user's home directory
[04:35] <hexstar> Example: To add a new user with
[04:35] <hexstar>     * a primary group of users
[04:35] <bruenig> oh gees
[04:35] <hexstar>     * a second group mgmt
[04:35] <hexstar>     * starting shell /bin/bash
[04:35] <hexstar>     * password of xxxx
[04:35] <hexstar>     * home directory of roger
[04:35] <hexstar>     * create home directory
[04:35] <bruenig> !ops
[04:35] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[04:35] <hexstar>     * a login name of roger
[04:35] <hexstar> useradd -gusers -Gmgmt -s/bin/shell -pxxxx -d/home/roger -m roger
[04:35] <Count1> 4 line limit
[04:35] <CerebroJD> erm.... hexstar.....
[04:35] <waltercool> hey... i want change the automount of volumes ntfs in ubuntu... how can i make this??
[04:35] <waltercool> i need change to ntfs-3g
[04:35] <elkbuntu> !paste hexstar
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste hexstar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <elkbuntu> grr
[04:36] <CerebroJD> !pastbin hexstar
[04:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin hexstar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <choudesh> BlackAlex[headhu, no really. the issue is the bootloader needs physical access to the HD. Like I said earlier. The easiest way is to setup your /boot on both HDs, and create the raid with the remaining space. That is how I have it set up.
[04:36] <elkbuntu> !paste | hexstar
[04:36] <ubotu> hexstar: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:36] <CerebroJD> frick, I cant spell
[04:36] <n2diy> ! pastebin | hexstar
[04:36] <CerebroJD> well, theres that too
[04:36] <hexstar> wow....3 ops
[04:36] <hexstar> sorry
[04:36] <||drake||> ! pastebin | drake
[04:36] <ys76> get yourself?
[04:36] <ubotu> drake: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:36] <Amaranth> hexstar: hit /cycle next time
[04:36] <riotkittie> err. stupid question. do i have to specify the root device when i'm booting teh install (alternate install cd) ?   :|
[04:36] <hexstar> wht does that do?
[04:37] <bruenig> ||drake||, see that /lib/modules/KERNELNAME/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ipw3945/ipw3945.ko exists
[04:37] <CerebroJD> drops you out of the channel
[04:37] <CerebroJD> then back in
[04:37] <hexstar> oh
[04:37] <CerebroJD> cancelling any pastes you have in progress... hopefully
[04:37] <hexstar> ah
[04:37] <hexstar> ok
[04:37] <reya276> Having some issues, for some reason when I logout and login as a different user then logout and log back in with the previous user Ubuntu will not let me login and the Desktop just stays black
[04:37] <reya276> any reason why this maybe happening
[04:37] <||drake||> bruenig: will do
[04:37] <carpediem> hi~
[04:38] <hexstar> hi carpediem
[04:38] <hexstar> need help?
[04:38] <locke> bruenig: mine doesn't exist and im using ipw3945
[04:38] <carpediem> yeah..
[04:38] <Ashfire908> what is the command to move something?
[04:38] <hexstar> Ashfire908: mv /source /dest
[04:38] <litlebuda> Ashfire908,  mv
[04:38] <Ashfire908> thanks
[04:38] <carpediem> i want to set up ubuntu at my macbook.
[04:38] <n2diy> Ashfire908: mv
[04:38] <hexstar> Ashfire908: np :)
[04:39] <waltercool> heeey... how can i change the automount of ntfs in ubuntu to ntfs-3g
[04:39] <bruenig> locke, where is it located then, it can technically be anywhere under drivers, I would imagine it would at least be in net/wireless
[04:39] <carpediem> i am poor at english.. ;(
[04:39] <||drake||> bruenig: it doesnt exist
[04:39] <waltercool> someone
[04:39] <hexstar> waltercool: nano /etc/fstab
[04:39] <n2diy> carpediem: what is your language?
[04:39] <||drake||> bruenig: i can get to [yadda yadda] /net/wireless/
[04:39] <carpediem> korean..
[04:39] <envi0us> BSDaemon, can't i add a hostname in a host file on the linux box and use it to connect via putty on same network?
[04:39] <waltercool> nonono..
[04:39] <waltercool> hexstar: I have a portable hdd
[04:39] <bruenig> locke, do "locate ipw3945.ko"
[04:39] <locke> bruenig:  /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/ubuntu/wireless/ipw3945/ipw3945.ko
[04:39] <tck> will ubucon website have an english version?
[04:39] <||drake||> bruenig: but then i have bcm stuff and zd1211 and such, but no ipw
[04:39] <HelpMe> Hello, I need help installing the game, Dufus
[04:39] <akos> hello everyone! I have the following problem: I have a router, so I have DHCP dynamic IP's on my home network. nslookup does not work on the lan, hostnames don't get resolved to private IP's... what can I do?
[04:39] <HelpMe> Dofus*
[04:39] <bruenig> locke, ubuntu, what the hell
[04:39] <hexstar> waltercool: if it's in on boot it should be in fstab I'd imagine
[04:40] <techII> !ntfs-config
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-config - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <RoundyT1> !python
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <hexstar> !info ntfs-config
[04:40] <ubotu> ntfs-config: Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 41 kB, installed size 432 kB
[04:40] <RoundyT1> wtf
[04:40] <locke> bruenig: hell if i know, that's just where it is ;x
[04:40] <soulrider> hello, im translating some goffice packages, but im not sire fo what "axis padding" is in a graph, could somebody explain the meaning please ?
[04:40] <waltercool> mmm... seeking that...
[04:40] <carpediem> does anyone help me to install ubuntu on macintosh?
[04:40] <bruenig> locke, I guess since they bundle it all together in one package, that is the easiest way to do it
[04:40] <lietu> akos: "hostnames"? in the lan? as in, computer names?
[04:40] <hexstar> !axis padding
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about axis padding - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <BSDaemon> envi0us: not if it's a dynamic address , the hostname points to an IP and if it changes it no longer works
[04:40] <akos> lietu, yeha
[04:40] <bruenig> ||drake||, does  /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/ubuntu/wireless/ipw3945/ipw3945.ko exist
[04:40] <hexstar> akos: /etc/hostname
[04:41] <lietu> akos: you can add them manually in /etc/hosts atleast ...
[04:41] <akos> hexstar, they are dynamic!
[04:41] <locke> bruenig: make sure he puts in the right kernel, mine also exists in 2.6.20-16-generic, sorry
[04:41] <akos> lietu, they are dynamic!
[04:41] <envi0us> BSDaemon: okay, fair enough.
[04:41] <lietu> akos: let me just double check, these are computer names and not real hostnames?
[04:41] <bruenig> locke, yeah I was hoping he could pick up on that
[04:41] <waltercool> thank u very much :)
[04:41] <envi0us> next question, how do i access irc through cmd line not gui
[04:41] <HelpMe> I need help Installing DOFUS!  Someone pleas help me!
[04:41] <hexstar> waltercool: np :)
[04:41] <lietu> envi0us: irssi
[04:41] <bruenig> envi0us, irssi
[04:41] <akos> lietu, what's the difference?
[04:42] <hexstar> envi0us: irssi
[04:42] <||drake||> bruenig: no
[04:42] <locke> bruenig: this is fairly useful for me, i came into here to ask about ipw3945, but different things ;x
[04:42] <hexstar> !info irssi
[04:42] <ubotu> irssi: terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.10-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1010 kB, installed size 2788 kB
[04:42] <lietu> akos: the other one is just a name like mybedroomcomputer, the other one is a real hostname like www.google.com ...
[04:42] <akos> lietu, it's the former
[04:42] <n2diy> Does irssi let you filter out the connect and disconnect messages?
[04:42] <bruenig> ||drake||, do a "sudo updatedb && sudo locate ipw3945.ko"
[04:43] <akos> lietu, it's mybedroomcomputer :D
[04:43] <lietu> akos: that is WINS/netbios stuff
[04:43] <lietu> akos: not sure how to set up support for that
[04:43] <hexstar> !WINS
[04:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wins - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:43] <hexstar> !netbios
[04:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netbios - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:43] <riotkittie> I'm trying to install 7.04 from the alternate cd, I keep running intor Kernel Panics... "can't open root device", "please append a correct "root=" boot option", not syncing vfs.
[04:43] <||drake||> bruenig: as i said, "bruenig: i can get to [yadda yadda] /net/wireless/  but then i have bcm folders and zd1211 and such, but no ipw
[04:43] <electric_d> hexstar: that worked, I'm wireless again
[04:43] <riotkittie> should i specify the partiton i want to install to as root? the cd?
[04:43] <hexstar> electric_d: :)
[04:43] <||drake||> bruenig: will do
[04:43] <bruenig> ||drake||, does nothing show up when you run that locate command?
[04:43] <bruenig> or
[04:44] <hexstar> ||drake||: locate ipw*
[04:44] <electric_d> I've never had that happen before. I wonder why my router's MAC is banned
[04:44] <akos> lietu, thx
[04:44] <bruenig> hexstar, that will locate a bunch of unnecessary stuff though
[04:44] <hexstar> electric_d: who knows, that happened to me too
[04:44] <||drake||> bruenig: was that supposed to be updateb or just update?
[04:44] <riotkittie> i'm not liking ubuntu's text install. it makes me yearn for the simplicity of slackware :<
[04:44] <lietu> riotkittie: it should work without any parameters, what you definately dont need to enter is the partition you want to install to
[04:44] <bruenig> ipw2200 and all of that stuff
[04:44] <||drake||> bruenig: /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/ubuntu/wireless/ipw3945/ipw3945.ko
[04:44] <satafterh> any plans on fixing issues with 8800gts in next release?
[04:44] <||drake||> is what it spits out
[04:44] <||drake||> but that certainly isnt in nautilus
[04:44] <bruenig> ||drake||, ok good, so it is installed
[04:45] <riotkittie> lietu:  its not working without any parameters. it kernel panics every time
[04:45] <HelpMe> Can somebody help me pleas?  I Just installed a game called Dofus.  It was a exe file and I unziped it onto my computer.  Now I dont know how to "Install" it or play it
[04:45] <lousygarua> HelpMe: have you heard of wine?
[04:45] <||drake||> bruenig: oh, its in ubuntu/wireless, not drivers/net/wireless
[04:45] <lietu> satafterh: any issues with nvidia/ati stuff is most propably out of the hands of the ubuntu people
[04:45] <bruenig> ||drake||, and you are saying that "sudo modprobe ipw3945" doesn't work?
[04:45] <HAL9090> HelpMe, get wine.
[04:45] <HelpMe> lousygarua:  I have it
[04:45] <lietu> satafterh: nag at nvidia to get them to fix their drivers if you're having issues ;)
[04:45] <HAL9090> sudo apt-get install wine
[04:45] <n2diy> riotkittie: have you tried the nodma option? noapci? etc...
[04:45] <locke> HelpMe:  wine dofus.exe
[04:46] <HAL9090> ^^what he said.
[04:46] <HelpMe> locke:  what will that do?
[04:46] <||drake||> bruenig: yes. it says the following: 2007-07-27 22:00:44: ERROR: Could not find Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection
[04:46] <riotkittie> brb.  i'm going to try another disc. :|  maybe i'll come back on my laptop if i keep running into issues. :|
[04:46] <locke> HelpMe: it'll run it..
[04:46] <bruenig> ||drake||, are you sure your card is ipw3945?
[04:46] <riotkittie> n2diy: noooooo nodna is not one i've tried. ill give taht a shot. tahnks.
[04:46] <satafterh> the issue is i install ubuntu and my screen goes black, thats befor installing drivers
[04:46] <||drake||> bruenig: yes
[04:46] <lousygarua> HelpMe: run it through wine, as if u were running it on a windows platform
[04:46] <HelpMe> Dofus_v1_19_0.zip is what the thing is called thats on my desktop now
[04:47] <madman91> how do i set a laptop to have a specific ip? (ad-hoc mode, so no router dhcp or anything is necessary)
[04:47] <ashnickel> okay, can someone help me with a really stupid question?????
[04:47] <locke> HelpMe: unzip it, then use winefile to open it, or wine if you want
[04:47] <lietu> HelpMe: you should understand, ubuntu is not windows, you cannot directly use windows applications, or windows games on it... wine MIGHT be able to run those for you tho
[04:47] <madman91> !ask > ashnickel
[04:47] <tafa> hi I'm gonna try ubuntu studio, does ubuntu work with java I mean jre. java virtual machine.
[04:47] <lousygarua> ashnickel: sure, i liek stupid questions
[04:47] <riotkittie> ashnickel: there are no stupid questions. :P ask.
[04:47] <n2diy> riotkittie: nodma!
[04:47] <||drake||> bruenig: but its not the standard 8086:4222, its 8086:4229 (speaking of lspci -n here)
[04:47] <bruenig> ||drake||, that's kind of a tough one to trouble shoot, the modprobe is one of the first things that should happen at boot and so it isn't because you haven't done the right stuff
[04:47] <HelpMe> Its ment for linux
[04:47] <yellow_chicken> where's the ubuntu beta channel?
[04:47] <ashnickel> okay, how do I know which feisty I have. I know it's 7.04, but is it i386 or amd64??
[04:47] <HelpMe> I just dont know how to install it
[04:47] <lietu> HelpMe: if it's a .exe file, it's NOT for linux
[04:47] <HAL9090> exes are meant for windows
[04:48] <lousygarua> HelpMe: meant for linux? so you probably downloaded the wrong installation file
[04:48] <riotkittie> HelpMe: if it were meant for linux, it wouldnt be an exe
[04:48] <astro76> yellow_chicken, #ubuntu+1
[04:48] <curtis> QUICK!!!!!!!!!!
[04:48] <n2diy> ! ubuntu+1 yellow_chicken
[04:48] <HelpMe> acctually, its a Zip file
[04:48] <locke> Lol
[04:48] <curtis> whats the best firewall for ubuntu
[04:48] <n2diy> ! ubuntu+1 | yellow_chicken
[04:48] <ubotu> yellow_chicken: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[04:48] <tafa> hi I'm gonna try ubuntu studio, does ubuntu work with java I mean jre. java virtual machine.
[04:48] <riotkittie> ok. a zip file.  uncompress it.
[04:48] <yellow_chicken> thx
[04:48] <HelpMe> I did
[04:48] <ashnickel> anyone??
[04:48] <||drake||> bruenig: all i've done is install feisty, and i have to type modprobe piix at boot up... other than that its fresh as a newborn chicken or whatever teh cliche is
[04:48] <mheath> tafa, Sure does.
[04:48] <riotkittie> and... theres an exe in it??
[04:48] <HelpMe> no
[04:48] <blackalex> ok i got soem good news and some bad news cloudesh
[04:48] <||drake||> tafa: is ubuntu studio really any different?
[04:49] <Pie-rate> I have a problem with my Parallax BASIC stamp board, it has a USB to serial converter onboard. When i plug it in, dmesg immediately says its been disconnected. I can't see any COM ports in the parallax IDE running under WINE. http://pastebin.ca/636657
[04:49] <blackalex> good news is that i found a way into my grub / ubuntu installation
[04:49] <||drake||> tafa: isnt it just ubuntu preconfigured with JACK and other such stuff?
[04:49] <riotkittie> ok. what's in this file you've uncompressed?
[04:49] <blackalex> but thats with my raid1 deleted
[04:49] <tafa> just wonder because debian didn't
[04:49] <bruenig> ||drake||, right that is why it is hard to tell you what to do, you could not have screwed it up nor could you have been expected to do something before it should work, it just isn't detecting your wireless interface as ipw3945
[04:49] <blackalex> which is the bad news
[04:49] <bruenig> ||drake||, it is either detecting it as something else or not at all
[04:49] <HelpMe> Dofus_v1_19_0.zip
[04:49] <blackalex> so i need some enlightenment
[04:49] <n2diy> Pie-rate: do you know the USB>Serial cable works?
[04:49] <lietu> HelpMe: and what files did you get OUT of it?
[04:50] <HelpMe> A lot
[04:50] <lietu> ok, let's look at this differently, WHERE did you get it?
[04:50] <Pie-rate> n2diy: its not a cable, its on the parallax board
[04:50] <locke> bruenig: How do I load my ipw3945 from command line?
[04:50] <Pie-rate> n2diy: and yes, this is a robot i built about a year ago, it works flawlessly in windows.
[04:50] <ashnickel> do i have i386 or amd64, how do i tell???
[04:51] <bruenig> locke, do "which ipw3945d"
[04:51] <yellow_chicken> anyone using the alsa 1.0.14 official release on 7.04?
[04:51] <locke> uname -a
[04:51] <locke> ashnickel: uname -a
[04:51] <n2diy> Pie-rate: Ok, not up to speed on the newer stamps, never seen on of those. So, you need to establish comms. between Ubuntu and the Stamp?
[04:51] <ashnickel> and that will tell me?
[04:51] <locke> bruenig: that didn't do anything
[04:51] <locke> ashnickel: yea
[04:51] <Pie-rate> n2diy: i need to make it show up in the editor, yes
[04:52] <ashnickel> in the terminal right?
[04:52] <waltercool> someone know a command for change the label of partitions?
[04:52] <locke> ashnickel: yes
[04:52] <HelpMe> sooo, what do i do?
[04:52] <ashnickel> ok, sorry, i know those are duh questions
[04:52] <bruenig> locke, you can try to just modprobe ipw3945 and then move on from there with iwconfig and all that good stuff
[04:52] <CMCDragonkai> Hello, I'm very new to ubuntu, could someone tell me step by step to how to change the ownership and permissions of a directory and all of the subdirectories and all of their subdirectories and files
[04:52] <Pie-rate> n2diy: and the USB version of their BOE board has been around for over a year
[04:52] <n2diy> Pie-rate: do you have minicom installed?
[04:52] <Pie-rate> n2diy: minicom?
[04:52] <lietu> HelpMe: dofus homepage says you extract it to any folder, and then you should have some executable file in there
[04:52] <Pie-rate> n2diy: downloading now
[04:52] <mrwho> Helpme: interesting user name
[04:52] <locke> bruenig: i know i can take it down, but im hoping that i can get it back up afterward XD
[04:53] <waltercool> CMCDragonkai: Try using chown "username" "folder"
[04:53] <lietu> HelpMe: open the folder you extracted to with the file browser/whatever, and try locating it
[04:53] <bruenig> locke, on arch you need to modprobe and then run the ipw3945 daemon, not sure if ubuntu takes a different approach
[04:53] <n2diy> Pie-rate: minicom lets you configure your serial ports.
[04:53] <myself_> CMCDragonkai: chmod -R dir
[04:53] <blackalex> when i type "grub-install" i get two definitions for hd0 and hd1
[04:53] <HelpMe> lietu:  ok
[04:53] <lousygarua> lietu: this DOFUS game helpme talks about does come as an .exe for mac/linux/win98. like utorrent states that it works under wine on their site
[04:53] <ashnickel> okay, it told me "Linux dell 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Jun 7 20:19:32 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:53] <bruenig> locke, do you mean just roaming with cli or do you mean literally loading the ipw module so that your card will work
[04:53] <waltercool> myself_: chmod isnt for files?
[04:53] <CMCDragonkai> So I just chown username and then file?
[04:53] <ashnickel> so, i386?
[04:53] <myself_> chown user dir will only change dir to user not dir/dir
[04:53] <blackalex> for a raid do i want to update "/dev/sda" to "/dev/mapper/sil_xxx?"
[04:53] <dug__> CMCDragonkai: add the -r option to chmod, or the graphical way is to right click the folder, properties, permissions, change permissions, and click button 'apply to enclosed files'
[04:53] <CMCDragonkai> whats my username?
[04:53] <myself_> chown i mean...
[04:53] <dug__> chown i mean
[04:53] <Pie-rate> n2diy: what am i supposed to do with this?
[04:54] <waltercool> myself_: Exist chown -R xD
[04:54] <locke> bruenig: i want to install ipwraw, and write a script to go from ipw3945 to ipwraw, and vice versa
[04:54] <HelpMe> lousygarua: ok
[04:54] <lietu> lousygarua: well their site says there's both a windows and linux version
[04:54] <n2diy> Pie-rate: open a terminal, and run it with the command minicom.
[04:54] <CMCDragonkai> yes but I dont have ownership of the file
[04:54] <Pie-rate> n2diy: way ahead of you. WTF am i supposed to do with it?
[04:54] <bruenig> locke, what is ipwraw?
[04:54] <froyd> hi all
[04:54] <froyd> nite
[04:54] <zerokill88> !pastebin
[04:54] <froyd> need a lil help
[04:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:54] <myself_> CMCDragonkai: chown -R user dir/ is correct
[04:54] <||drake||> bruenig: sorry it took so long...
[04:54] <blackalex> this is for grub...
[04:54] <lousygarua> HelpMe: lietu: there must be some README  or INSTALL file after you unzip the package with instructions
[04:54] <||drake||> bruenig: yea, i have no idea what to do
[04:54] <||drake||> bruenig: it helped other people with a manual wireless killswitch to reboot into windows, then back into ;buntu
[04:54] <||drake||> but that didnt help me
[04:55] <CMCDragonkai> what is -R mean?
[04:55] <n2diy> Pie-rate: try to configure your serial port to talk to the stamp!
[04:55] <bruenig> ||drake||, yeah that doesn't make any sense
[04:55] <waltercool> CMCDragonkai: REcursivity... is for all files and folder inside
[04:55] <locke> bruenig: drivers that allow packet injection, ipw3945 do not
[04:55] <waltercool> CMCDragonkai: And sub-folders
[04:55] <CMCDragonkai> oh ok
[04:55] <Pie-rate> n2diy: =/
[04:55] <CMCDragonkai> do i need to put sudo infront of it
[04:55] <waltercool> exactly
[04:55] <Pie-rate> n2diy: i have no idea how serial communications work.
[04:55] <bruenig> locke, oh ubuntu has two packages for that? On arch the ipw3945 is setup by default to do all that fun stuff, you can just use ipwraw all the time
[04:56] <Pie-rate> n2diy: i'm not going to be able to just start using a tool like this
[04:56] <froyd> i left my notebook with the screen locked in my ubuntu dapper drake and my batery run off, now, when i try to start the gdm fails and says xorg.conf doesnt work, i run the dpkg-reconfigure from inside one of my backups but i lost everything apparently, my beryl , my hole configuration for gdm
[04:56] <locke> bruenig: well ipwraw is configured to be in promiscuous mode all the time, so i'd rather not ;x
[04:56] <froyd> is there a way to fix up my xorg.conf?
[04:56] <n2diy> Pie-rate: the Stamp manual tells you what baud rate, and comm parameters it uses.
[04:56] <CMCDragonkai> is it forward slash or backslash for the firectory and I start with /etc or \etc?
[04:56] <mrwho> can anyone tell me the channels command for irc?
[04:56] <bruenig> locke, why is that a problem?
[04:56] <pork> hey guys where at the logs that shows you how the computer was shutdown cause i told my friend to shutdown and i think he just held the power button and he swears he didnt and i wanna prove he did lol so i can punch him
[04:56] <Pie-rate> n2diy: but the com port doesn't even exist. did you not look at the pastebin? it immediately says the device was disconnected
[04:56] <techII> mrwho: join or list?
[04:57] <locke> bruenig: don't know, it wouldn't effect anything?
[04:57] <phpwner> how do i assign a file to both a user and group?
[04:57] <phpwner> chown root:root file?
[04:57] <mrwho> list
[04:57] <||drake||> bruenig: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31619/
[04:57] <waltercool> CMCDragonkai: /etc/...
[04:57] <phpwner> or chown root root file?
[04:57] <techII> mrwho: /list
[04:57] <CMCDragonkai> ok
[04:57] <techII> it gives out a lot
[04:57] <n2diy> Pie-rate: because Ubuntu doesn't know how to talk to it, that is what we are setting up.
[04:57] <mrwho> thanks
[04:57] <pork> ./var/logs ?
[04:57] <froyd> anybody can help me with the xorg.conf ?
[04:57] <HelpMe> config.xml     Would that be how i install it?
[04:57] <savetheWorld> phpwner: the former
[04:57] <waltercool> CMCDragonkai: backslash for window$
[04:57] <phpwner> thx
[04:57] <CMCDragonkai> is the username just the username that I setup for my account?
[04:57] <savetheWorld> arf
[04:57] <bruenig> locke, no, the only difference between the two is different compile options when you compile ipw3945, I am always using the driver with the monitor and promiscuous going
[04:57] <waltercool> CMCDragonkai: Username of the user of u want...
[04:58] <myself_> CMCDragonkai: note: i don't recommend chown -R CMCDragonkai /etc
[04:58] <froyd> im just in gdm now cuz i did the dpkg-reconfigure and i startx in the console
[04:58] <Pie-rate> n2diy: ok... how do i set it up, then?
[04:58] <wlnet> will the epson cx2900 all-in-one works well on ubuntu?
[04:58] <waltercool> CMCDragonkai: I dont recommend too
[04:58] <bruenig> ||drake||, I didn't ask for that
[04:58] <CMCDragonkai> um then what should I do?
[04:58] <envi0us> why does cp *.* /usr/local/ircii not work?
[04:58] <n2diy> Pie-rate: with minicom, what baud rate is the stamp using?
[04:58] <waltercool> CMCDragonkai: What is the problem?
[04:58] <zerokill88> hey bruenig, if i type lshw wouldnt it show me if i had a wireless card in my laptop?
[04:58] <bruenig> envi0us, do you get permission errors?
[04:58] <envi0us> no
[04:58] <astro76> envi0us, if you mean all files, you want *
[04:58] <Pie-rate> n2diy: i don't remember what it uses.
[04:58] <bruenig> zerokill88, I have never used that command
[04:59] <envi0us> No errror. It just doesn't cp everything.
[04:59] <CMCDragonkai> well I'm tried to save a file to my apache place, but It said I can't because I dont own it
[04:59] <zerokill88> bruenig oh
[04:59] <astro76> envi0us, *.* will not copy files without a . in them
[04:59] <HelpMe> lousygarua:   I cant run it throught wine.   for some reason when i go to accesories, the thing that said whine fil isent there
[04:59] <Pie-rate> n2diy: pretty sure it uses up to 9600
[04:59] <waltercool> CMCDragonkai: If u want edit a file in etc... only use sudo gedit file, or sudo nano file
[04:59] <HelpMe> lousygarua:  so I cant run it
[04:59] <envi0us> ok, now I am getting errors.
[04:59] <n2diy> Pie-rate: don't you have the manual?
[04:59] <envi0us> cp: omitting directory: directory name.
[04:59] <CMCDragonkai> so how would I edit a file say in \etc\apache\config.txt?
[05:00] <waltercool> sudo nano /etc/apache/config.txt
[05:00] <lousygarua> HelpMe: what do you mean? do you run in a terminal and you see any error messages that it writes?
[05:00] <techII> CMCDragonkai: "sudo gedit /etc/apache/config.txt"
[05:00] <CMCDragonkai> ok
[05:00] <techII> ctrl+x exits nano
[05:00] <waltercool> for all the likes xD
[05:00] <Pie-rate> n2diy: 9600
[05:00] <n2diy> Pie-rate: we need two crucial pieces of information about the stamp, the baud rate it is using, and what parity it is using, like 8n1?
[05:00] <HelpMe> lousygarua:    How do i do it in the termanal?
[05:00] <CMCDragonkai> what If I needed to save a file otehr then a txt file?
[05:00] <astro76> envi0us, no doubt you need sudo, to copy to /usr/local
[05:00] <project9> i am planning for mail server where my all emploies mail will land on server and then i should able to distibute to thier mail id ----is it possible
[05:00] <blackalex> ok im a bit confused
[05:01] <envi0us> i'm root
[05:01] <project9> using postfix
[05:01] <techII> i usually use vim
[05:01] <lousygarua> HelpMe: applications-> accessories->terminal
[05:01] <n2diy> Pie-rate: and we need to know which comm port your using on the ubuntu box.
[05:01] <HelpMe> lousygarua:  ohhh, it says thats i need flash player for the game to work.  I have no idea how to install flash player
[05:01] <blackalex> when i have my raid1 created it has a /dev/mapper location but if not its simply /dev/sda and /dev/sdb
[05:02] <blackalex> can grub use locations like /dev/mapper/sil_xxx ?
[05:02] <||drake||> bruenig: i copy/pasted that ipw3945 folder from [stuff] /kernel/ubuntu/wireless into the places you said it should be
[05:02] <CMCDragonkai> thanks for you help everybody
[05:02] <lousygarua> HelpMe: did y ou read the readme file for instructions? there are flash players for linux but maybe they provide better instructions on their own
[05:02] <||drake||> bruenig: [stuff] kernel/drivers/net/wireless
[05:02] <||drake||> bruenig: should that htlp?
[05:02] <envi0us> cp /tmp/ircii/* /usr/local/ircii
[05:02] <||drake||> *help
[05:02] <envi0us> fyi
[05:02] <waltercool> :)
[05:02] <HelpMe> lousygarua:  no read me
[05:02] <techII> CMCDragonkai: nano prompts you for a filename when exiting or saving
[05:03] <blackalex> uhm... help please and thank you?
[05:03] <ash__> Hello all... Question... I have my video card installed... I dont know if it's installed correctly or not but all the video works fine and doesnt lag or anything... only problem is that SOME functions seem to freeze the computer... I can play videos for hours and no crashed... but dragging windows around, minimizing, maximizing, website games, things like that make the computer freeze with no response to any commands...
[05:03] <waltercool> techII: He exists xD
[05:03] <lousygarua> HelpMe: what about their site? is there a support forum for linux? did you check there?
[05:03] <albert`> hey guys
[05:03] <lousygarua> HelpMe: maybe google for "dufos ubuntu install"
[05:03] <RoundyT1> Who knows Python?!
[05:03] <waltercool> ash__: What videocard?
[05:03] <Pie-rate> n2diy: says 8 bits, no parity
[05:03] <albert`> do you know why I'm not allowed to create an extended partition
[05:03] <rapid_> where to get wma codec
[05:04] <albert`> the option to create a primary partition is available but not extended
[05:04] <JaysC> Ok I am having some issues, I have ran out of space on / now i decided i would boot into the live cd and mount /usr on it's own with 5gb of space but it will not let me do it in gparted iget: Resize /dev/sda7 from 43.95 GiB to 39.06 GiB    ( ERROR )
[05:04] <JaysC> 
[05:04] <JaysC> check filesystem on /dev/sda7 for errors and (if possible) fix them    ( ERROR )
[05:04] <JaysC> 
[05:04] <JaysC> e2fsck -f -y -v /dev/sda7
[05:04] <RoundyT1> Can anyone help me with a simple python program please?
[05:04] <JaysC> 
[05:04] <astro76> envi0us, it means you have subdirectories in /tmp/ircii/, but cp won't copy them without -r option
[05:04] <JaysC> /dev/sda7 is mounted.
[05:04] <JaysC> e2fsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
[05:04] <JaysC> e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.
[05:04] <JaysC> Any ideas?
[05:04] <n2diy> Pie-rate: ok, so now we want to set up the comm port for 9600 baud, 8n1, but which comm port are you using?
[05:04] <envi0us> yes, I found that out now. =/ Thanks.
[05:04] <waltercool> !!
[05:04] <Pie-rate> n2diy: i have no fucking clue.
[05:04] <ash__> waltercool, ati radeon 9200 or something... it's somewhat old but should be able to handle KDE and visual effects and all that... it did in windows :(
[05:04] <techII> RoundyT1: I have used it in the past, though i would ask on #python
[05:04] <waltercool> JaysC: Use pastebin.ca for that!
[05:04] <HelpMe> Brb,  Pie ;)
[05:04] <JaysC> waltercool: sorry i will next time
[05:05] <rapid_> where to get wma codec
[05:05] <albert`> does anybody know of a partition tool in Ubuntu that allows me to automatically redistribute free space?
[05:05] <file13> gparted
[05:05] <albert`> file13: Where is that feature?
[05:05] <xxx555>  i am on a linux live cd... can i save mty settings some how?
[05:05] <c2Kbu> ok i want to be able to stay here in kubuntu yet over the last 2 days I have not been able to gain any ground on this resolution issue I have pasted and and work on it this way and that way to no avail and then Accused wild assumptions and 8ull5h17 from two of kubuntu's 455w1p3 support FUCK ubuntu I am Going back to mandriva @ least there was Respect there
[05:05] <n2diy> Pie-rate: watch your language, and don't cop an attitude on me. Are you on a laptop or desktop?
[05:05] <waltercool> ash__: Mmmm... and u have propietary drivers installed?
[05:05] <rapid_> xxx555, best to just install
[05:05] <Pie-rate> n2diy: desktop, asus a8n-sli
[05:05] <Pie-rate> n2diy: sorry about the language
[05:05] <xxx555> no hard drive
[05:05] <ash__> waltercool, I dont know what that is...?
[05:05] <mrwho> People is windows chats are fuckin crazy people
[05:06] <astro76> !medibuntu | rapid_ you can get w32codecs here
[05:06] <ubotu> rapid_ you can get w32codecs here: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[05:06] <albert`> does anybody know of a partition tool in Ubuntu that allows me to automatically redistribute free space?
[05:06] <waltercool> ash__: System/Admin/Restricted...
[05:06] <n2diy> Pie-rate: Are you on a laptop or desktop?
[05:06] <Pie-rate> n2diy: desktop, asus a8n-sli
[05:06] <JaysC> hi all, Ok I am trying to resize a partition and gpartd keeps giving me: http://pastebin.ca/636666
[05:06] <waltercool> ash__: In this manner, u can get acceleration in ur videocard, and not using a generic driver
[05:06] <JaysC> So it is not working :(
[05:07] <n2diy> Pie-rate: Does it have traditional comm ports, besides the USB ports?
[05:07] <waltercool> JaysC: U need unmount the drive
[05:07] <waltercool> JaysC: In console write sudo umount /dev/sda7
[05:07] <Pie-rate> n2diy: not on the back. i think it may have some internal ones
[05:07] <JaysC> Ok thanks i will try it
[05:07] <waltercool> JaysC: And try again ;)
[05:07] <ash__> waltercool, what is system/admin/restricted?
[05:08] <albert`> does anybody know of a partition tool in Ubuntu that allows me to automatically redistribute free space?
[05:08] <ash__> I have a sys folder.. is that what you mean?
[05:08] <xxx555> whats a good firewall to use?
[05:08] <waltercool> ash__: Is the propietary drivers of videocards..., i have nvidia... and there i can get acceleration
[05:08] <file13> Im gonna reinstall ubuntu but i have a dual boot system. My question is when i reinstall do i delete the swap and the ext partition or can i keep the swap and just redo the other part.
[05:08] <waltercool> ash__: idk if in ati works...
[05:08] <Pie-rate> n2diy: 1 port inside.
[05:09] <n2diy> Pie-rate: Ok, we don't have to worry about the internal ones. Now I'm stuck, I don't know if USB ports are handled like tradititional comm ports or not?
[05:09] <waltercool> ash__: Is restricted drivers
[05:09] <n2diy> How does the system refer to serial USB ports, ttySX?
[05:10] <xxx555> what is a good software firewall to use?
[05:10] <albert`> can somebody help me with Gparted? For some reason it wont allow me to create extended partitions
[05:10] <xtknight> n2diy, /dev/usb* i think
[05:10] <Pie-rate> n2diy: pretty sure they aren't
[05:10] <xtknight> n2diy, i think it depends on the device and the module loaded, however
[05:10] <n2diy> xtknight: will minicom configure those?
[05:10] <locke> what is a .ko file?
[05:10] <xtknight>  /dev/ttyUSB is a serial->usb converter that's bout all i know
[05:10] <xtknight> locke, a kernel module
[05:10] <HelpMe> lousygarua:  back
[05:10] <xtknight> n2diy, no idea
[05:10] <xtknight> n2diy, what kind of device?
[05:11] <waltercool> albert`: Sorry... i dont use extended partitions
[05:11] <astro76> albert`, we can try... you can only have one extended partition, and if you already have 4 primaries, you'll have to delete one, does this help?
[05:11] <n2diy> xtknight: ok, thanks. Basic Stamp micro controller.
[05:11] <thekernel> join #ubuntu-ve
[05:11] <xtknight> n2diy, it communicates over a usb port?
[05:11] <lousygarua> HelpMe: well? any progress?
[05:11] <Pie-rate> n2diy: in the editor it says: COM0: invalid port, COM1: no loopback, no echo, COM2: can't open port, COM3, can't open port, etc.
[05:11] <lietu> /dev/ttyUSB* generally are problematic
[05:12] <albert`> astro76: My partitions are int his order: D drive (storage), unallocated, C Drive (XP), Unallocated, Ubuntu, ubuntu swap, unallocated
[05:12] <lietu> and usb ports are not com ports
[05:12] <albert`> astro76: Whenever I create one between D and C, it allows me. Anything after C Drive will tell me I already have 4 partitions
[05:12] <xtknight> nope, but they are serial
[05:12] <n2diy> xtknight: That's what Pie-rate is telling me.
[05:12] <albert`> astro76: When I create between D and C which it allows me to, I cannot change primary partition to extended
[05:12] <xtknight> i dont know much about usb,serial,com ports really to tell you the truth
[05:12] <n2diy> Pie-rate: those are Winders designations, are you running Wine too?
[05:13] <xtknight> nah they're universal
[05:13] <Pie-rate> n2diy: i said in my first message:
[05:13] <Pie-rate> I have a problem with my Parallax BASIC stamp board, it has a USB to serial converter onboard. When i plug it in, dmesg immediately says its been disconnected. I can't see any COM ports in the parallax IDE running under WINE. http://pastebin.ca/636657
[05:13] <astro76> albert`, you cannot change primary to extended because for one, extended is just a container for logical partitions
[05:13] <Pie-rate> n2diy: i have since added the COM ports manually
[05:13] <xtknight> Pie-rate, okay so it has a usb->serial onboard?  well AFAIK you'd need to configure the COM program to point to /dev/ttyUSB0 instead of /ttyS0.
[05:13] <albert`> astro76: I am trying to create a new partition between C and D. I meant to say it gives me the option to create a primary partition but not an extended
[05:14] <xtknight> my dad was dealing with that exact same thing
[05:14] <Pie-rate> xtknight: how?
[05:14] <xtknight> Pie-rate, ill see if i can find the app i used.  but most COM apps are configurable in one way or another
[05:14] <Pie-rate> xtknight: its running under WINE
[05:14] <envi0us> anyone use ircII?
[05:14] <ash__> !ati
[05:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:14] <xtknight> Pie-rate, do you need to run it under wine?
[05:15] <supaneko> Could someone help me figure out my taskbar? It doesn't seem to work on this monitor.
[05:15] <astro76> albert`, then you must have an extended already since you already have 4
[05:15] <xtknight> (proprietary software that communicates over a COM port, right?)
[05:15] <Pie-rate> xtknight: pretty much. i think there are some native utilities.
[05:15] <albert`> astro76: If I have an extended, how can I create more partitions with the unallocated space. Each time I create one, it tells me that I cannot create more than 4 partitions
[05:15] <supaneko> Excuse me, notification area.
[05:15] <n2diy> Pie-rate: Ok, I haven't played with a stamp since the BSII, so we are talking about seven years ago. Have you tried Parallax for support? It is their propriatary languag.
[05:15] <xtknight> Pie-rate, hmm well then i dont know what the next step is.  perhaps link /dev/ttyS0 to /dev/ttyUSB0, or modify wine source code
[05:16] <Pie-rate> n2diy: its nothing to do with the language and this is a BS2
[05:16] <zerokill88> whats the difference form 802.11a/g and 802.11n???
[05:16] <astro76> albert`, you really can't, you'll have to slide the existing partitions to consolidate space to adjacent to the extended, so you can expand the extended
[05:16] <albert`> astro76: Should I upload a screenshot of what my screen looks like
[05:16] <carpediem> anyone know how to install ubuntu on macbook?
[05:16] <Maxwell> Hi all
[05:16] <astro76> albert`, sure
[05:16] <Pie-rate> xtknight: dmesg is saying the device was disconnected.
[05:16] <albert`> astro76: uploading, btw i appreciate ur help
[05:17] <scotty> Okay, I've come across this area in the past but now I can't find it. Where is the button that fixes the firefox scrollbar error located?
[05:17] <xtknight> Pie-rate, well, it's probably a driver bug
[05:17] <n2diy> Pie-rate: Ok, then how come your are configuring com ports, when linux doesn't use that term for serial ports?
[05:17] <astro76> albert`, no problem, this can be a bit obtuse at first
[05:17] <Maxwell> any1 can help me? Im getting troubles, trying to install my mobo's drivers
[05:17] <Pie-rate> n2diy: because you told me to.
[05:17] <jbig> question: is there any desktop environment for ubuntu server edition?
[05:17] <xtknight> n2diy, he's running an app under Wine
[05:17] <scotty> nvm
[05:17] <scotty> found it
[05:17] <albert`> astro76: This is the picture. http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/4006/screenshotwt2.png
[05:18] <n2diy> Pie-rate: No I didn't, com ports in linux are referred to as ttySX.
[05:18] <choudesh> Anyone know the gstreamer plugin name that plays acc?
[05:18] <xtknight> Pie-rate, have you tried basic stamp linux software?  http://www.parallax.com/html_pages/downloads/software/software_basic_stamp.asp
[05:18] <AdemoS> compengi: Ended up being the computer
[05:18] <xtknight> choudesh, AAC (mpeg4)?
[05:19] <choudesh> xtknight, yep. m4a also.
[05:19] <AdemoS> compengi: because the disc worked on every other computer except that one, and had no errors
[05:19] <xtknight> choudesh, i dont think linux can play encrypted itunes
[05:19] <AdemoS> she's buying a new laptop and I'm wiping Windows Vista for the much slicker Ubuntu
[05:19] <choudesh> xtknight, they arent protected
[05:19] <xtknight> choudesh, open it with totem and it should tell you which gstreamer package to install
[05:19] <n2diy> xtknight: right, it is an app problem, not a Ubuntu problem. But stamps are cool, so I'm trying to help him. But I don't run Wine, so I guess I can't?
[05:19] <choudesh> xtknight, ;-)
[05:19] <astro76> albert`, so in this situation, you can only create more logical partitions within the extended (sdc1), so you'll first need to slide sdc2,3,and 4 to the right, then resize sdc1 to the right, then create logicals in there
[05:19] <envi0us> what's the cmd to see a job running such as ircii?
[05:20] <AdemoS> compengi: Anyway, thanks for your help before. Have a good nigt.
[05:20] <albert`> astro76: How can I slide the partitions to the right of the 88.13 GB in the middle
[05:20] <Rope|0ff> Maxwell
[05:20] <Maxwell> Yap
[05:20] <Rope|0ff> Ask here :P
[05:20] <Pie-rate> xtknight: hmm, i'm guessing i'm pretty much boned if that doesn't work. there's no documentation
[05:20] <n2diy> Pie-rate: I'm not familiar with Wine, if you want to try and play with the stamp using linux, I can help, otherwise I can't.
[05:20] <xtknight> n2diy, i dont quite understand what you mean.  seems as though the driver isnt detecting his usb->serial converter correctly.  or maybe he needs special software
[05:21] <xtknight> ya those linux apps are unsupported hmm
[05:21] <choudesh> xtknight, faad. ;-)
[05:21] <astro76> albert`, first you'll slide sdc4 all the way right, then sdc3 all the way, then sdc2, they'll still be in the same order
[05:21] <xtknight> ahh
[05:22] <devang> http://apcmag.com/6458/dont_wait_for_vista_sp1_pleads_microsoft should convert any vista users from now eh?
[05:22] <n2diy> xtknight: well, is is trying to configure com ports, and my Ubuntu box refers to them as ttySX ports, so there is a language barrier at work here.
[05:22] <albert`> astro76: Sorry I meant to ask how to slide partitions
[05:22] <n2diy> is/he is
[05:22] <xtknight> n2diy, the app within wine of course uses the term COM becaues that's what it is on windows
[05:22] <xtknight> wine isn't telling him anything about COM ports, only the app running inside
[05:23] <xtknight> or maybe it is, since wine bridges windows to linux
[05:23] <astro76> albert`, click on it, click resize/move, then click and drag
[05:23] <nomad111> how do i install themes for compiz fusion
[05:23] <n2diy> xtknight: and how well does Wine bridge them?
[05:23] <nomad111> any ideas?
[05:23] <xtknight> n2diy, no idea
[05:24] <n2diy> xtknight: I love hearding cats. :)
[05:24] <albert`> astro76: When I click on resize/ move, I can only resize. I'm not sure how to move the partitions. When I try to click on it and drag it, nothing happens. Also, the swap file cannot be resized or moved
[05:24] <xtknight> :P
[05:25] <astro76> albert`, if the 24GB space (between sdc5 and sdc2) is enough, you can just create a logical in that space and not move anything
[05:26] <JaysC> ok i made a new partition, i moved /usr to it, Anything else I have to do to make linux boot with that as it's /usr?
[05:26] <albert`> astro76: I can create a logical there. But how I can I utilize the unallocated space wasted on the right?
[05:26] <astro76> JaysC, fix your /etc/fstab ?
[05:26] <file13> Im reinstalling Ubuntu on a dual partition HDD with XP on the other partition. When i re-install ubuntu do i need to delete the swap and ext partition and make both clean or can i keep the swap partition
[05:27] <JaysC> astro76: thanks i new i forgot somthing :)
[05:27] <astro76> albert`, for that you'll have to slide partitions over, you mean it won't let you slide over sdc2 at all?
[05:27] <n2diy> xtknight: So, here is the program flow: linux >wine>parallax interpeter>basic stamp. Which one is at fault? Here kittie kittie! ;)
[05:27] <albert`> nothing will slide. btw, I am using the LIVE CD
[05:27] <BillTheFish> Ahoy
[05:27] <albert`> astro76: Nothing will slide, I've tried everything. But I am on the LIVE CD
[05:27] <xtknight> n2diy, probably all of them.  if linux's driver is messed up, then everything beneath it is broken also.  lovely huh?
[05:28] <astro76> albert`, I bet the livecd automounted the partitions, in which case you'll need to unmount them (right click on desktop icon and click unmount)
[05:28] <MentalReject> I am going to put linux on my computer for the first time :)
[05:28] <oleksa> Hi. I'm going crazy trying to get my 7.04 to boot from a new drive I copied it to. I booted from 7.04 live cd and reinstalled grub. However, when I try to boot the screen flickers a bit and shows a weird bios message - something like "PCMP#@DELL WS 470" and doesn't even seem to get to the grub stage. I am lost.
[05:28] <nickrud> MentalReject, you'll have to change your nick ;)
[05:29] <osxdude|lap> lol nickrud
[05:29] <n2diy> xtknight: Yes, how do you test a com port, can you ping it?
[05:29] <astro76> albert`, I've also found the feisty livecd has a nasty habit of automounting as gparted is operating, causing the operation to fail... I would honestly recommend SystemRescueCD instead for gparted
[05:29] <albert`> astro76: OK I will go unmount now. But I now see locks beside all my partitions after trying to create that logical
[05:29] <xtknight> n2diy, probably a loopback device
[05:29] <Maxdamantus> oleksa, did you reinstall grub correctly?
[05:29] <nickrud> osxdude|lap, can't have someone saying what they're not, can we?
[05:29] <envi0us> Anyone use ircII?
[05:29] <astro76> albert`, probably so if they're mounted
[05:29] <Industry> Hey everyone
[05:29] <albert`> astro76: Ok is it easier to use? I've been trying to fix my PC problems since 8 and don't really want to go use a new prog if not necessary, although thanks for the rec.
[05:29] <LordArtemis> I'm trying to install xubuntu from the alternate install CD and it's hung at 85% at the "Select and install software" thing
[05:29] <albert`> astro76: Ok
[05:30] <osxdude|lap> nickrud: yes :P
[05:30] <LordArtemis> (right after xubuntu-desktop)
[05:30] <LordArtemis> It says Please wait... and has been like that for hours.
[05:30] <oleksa> Maxdamantus: grub; root (hd0,0) {as it's sda1 now}; setup (hd0)
[05:30] <LordArtemis> anyone have any ideas/
[05:30] <LordArtemis> ?
[05:30] <Maxdamantus> It should be setup(hd0,0)
[05:30] <n2diy> xtknight: The only way I know is to issue an atz command, but how do you address the port? I can do it with kppp, but from the cli, I'm clueless.
[05:30] <Industry> Could someone point me to a good resource for learning Ubuntu Server.  Or just plain old Command line linux in general
[05:30] <xtknight> n2diy, again no idea
[05:30] <froyd> can anybody tell me how my baterry running out screw up my xorg.conf on my laptop
[05:30] <oleksa> Maxdamantus: but then it won't write to the mbr, will it?
[05:30] <Maxdamantus> Yes, it will.
[05:31] <BillTheFish> Having a little trouble installing a game.. I'm running Kubuntu, though i think this is more of a linux issue.. asked around in the kubuntu channel already but no one could help me.. it says that i don't have enough space to decompress the package in /tmp and i should consider setting TMPDIR to a directory with more free space.. How would i go about doing that?
[05:31] <Maxdamantus> It tells it where to boot from.
[05:31] <nickrud> n2diy, xtknight minicom is a good client for that
[05:31] <astro76> albert`, it's the same gparted, and the cd is pretty self explanatory, just type startx when you get to the prompt, then right click on desktop and pick gparted
[05:31] <Maxdamantus> Well, where to find the /boot/grub directory.
[05:31] <n2diy> xtknight: we're on the bleeding edge man! Or we need to RTFM?
[05:31] <voidmage> anyone know what's up with nvidia drivers and:
[05:31] <voidmage> ERROR: Unable to determine the NVIDIA kernel module filename. ?
[05:31] <zerokill88> anyone familiar with   PRO/Wireless 4965AGN
[05:31] <zerokill88> ?
[05:31] <astro76> albert`, small 100MB download too
[05:31] <n2diy> nickrud: will minicom confirm your talking to a com port, if no device is attached?
[05:32] <Industry> Where is a great place to learn more about just using CLI?
[05:32] <pi_i810> there's a green bar of crap at the bottom when i do video playback, but i'm not sure how to call it to start looking for solutions http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=4t6yb85
[05:32] <nickrud> n2diy, not sure ... I just caught your need to do a at command
[05:32] <voidmage> anyone know what's up with the latest nvidia drivers and: ERROR: Unable to determine the NVIDIA kernel module filename. ?
[05:32] <albert`> astro76: Since I am on the CD, it would be ok to unmount everything right?
[05:33] <astro76> albert`, correct
[05:33] <LordArtemis> anyone have any idea what might be causing my problem?
[05:33] <nj786> i cannot see some web pages because it requires flash
[05:33] <Industry> could someone help me please
[05:33] <Industry> just need some info
[05:33] <voidmage> !anyone | industry
[05:33] <ubotu> industry: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:34] <nickrud> Industry, tldp.org
[05:34] <voidmage>  Ubuntu kernel module problem? Ask in #ubuntu
[05:34] <voidmage> er
[05:34] <astro76> !cli | Industry
[05:34] <ubotu> Industry: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[05:34] <voidmage> anyone know what's up with the latest nvidia drivers and: ERROR: Unable to determine the NVIDIA kernel module filename. ?
[05:34] <albert`> astro76: Do you know why I cannot move my dev/sdc3 which is my ext3 ubuntu partition
[05:34] <albert`> astro76: But I can move the swap file. btw, everything is unmounted
[05:34] <Industry> thanks
[05:35] <Industry> I know how to get into the terminal.  I just want to run a server without a GUI
[05:35] <n2diy> nickrud: roger that. I've played with minicom quite a bit, running an external modem now, thanks to it, but it is the modem that sends the ok reply. If nothing was connected to the port, there would be no reply. But, ah ha, if nothing is connected to the port, the port config doesn't matter, does it! :)
[05:35] <Industry> so i want to get into the nitty gritty
[05:35] <LordArtemis> does anyone know why the xubuntu alternate install disc would hang 85% through the "Select and install software" part?  It's right after it installs the xubuntu-desktop package.
[05:35] <nj786> some of the qwebsites i go to require flash
[05:35] <astro76> albert`, hmm apparently you can only move fat16, fat32 and linux-swap (in gparted menu, features)
[05:35] <nj786> can anybody give me a sudo command
[05:35] <albert`> astro76: Ok I am going to download that CD. Everything is pretty much straight-forward rite?
[05:36] <voidmage> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:36] <nickrud> n2diy, true. there's a program to work with the serial port, setserial. I haven't used it much and not in years, maybe that can help. (pokes into the dark)
[05:36] <lietu> Industry: I guess the ubuntu server cd does that?
[05:36] <jmad9801> how do you configure xorg
[05:36] <CorpseFeeder> anyone here know about fixing nvidia driver problems?
[05:36] <Jeeebus> hey are there any tips for speeding up gnome? everything is sluggish after adding beryl (the root of the sluggish problem no doubt)
[05:36] <astro76> albert`, yeah but you still won't be able to move that ext3
[05:36] <voidmage> is it anyone know what's up with the latest nvidia drivers and: ERROR: Unable to determine the NVIDIA kernel module filename. ?
[05:36] <voidmage> (sorry, that was pasted for easy access)
[05:37] <n2diy> nj786: sudo updatedb, but it will slow you down will it does it's thing, and may take a while, depending on the size of your hard drive.
[05:37] <albert`> astro76: Meaning if I want to use that unallocated after the ubuntu and swap, I would have to reinstall ubuntu...
[05:37] <oleksa> Maxdamantus: I just went into grub shell and ran "root (0,0)" then "setup (0,0)". grub returned success status.
[05:37] <lietu> jmad9801: depends on what you mean with configuring
[05:37] <voidmage> Jeeebus: does the installer complain about NVIDIA kernel module filename?
[05:37] <astro76> albert`, you could make a new ext3 where you want it, then copy all the files
[05:37] <jmad9801> turning on graphics acceleration
[05:37] <nj786> n2diy: is there another command?
[05:37] <Maxdamantus> oleksa, so, does it boot GRUB?
[05:37] <nickrud> nj786, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Flash
[05:37] <oleksa> Maxdamantus: I'm going to try rebooting from this live cd right now
[05:37] <albert`> astro76: Is there any way I can do this without reinstalling Ubuntu? I don't think just copying the files will still keep the OS running
[05:38] <madman91> HELP!?!?.. none of the files in ~/bin execute by default from the terminal (they are set to exec allowed)
[05:38] <oleksa> Maxdamantus: into the hd install
[05:38] <Maxdamantus> Ok, good luck.
[05:38] <oleksa> Maxdamantus: Thanks!
[05:38] <astro76> albert`, actually it should if it's done properly
[05:38] <CorpseFeeder> I upgraded the nvidia driver from 96xx to 71xx legacy drivers.. and now nvidia-settings is giving "The OpenGL extension 'GLX' is not supported by the X server or there was a problem retrieving GLX information from the X server." under the "Open GL/GLX info" tab. How do I fix?
[05:38] <Jeeebus> voidmage, i don't remember, i installed it like a week ago. ive just noticed gnome has been progressively slower and was wondering if theres any kind of settings i can play with ti speed it up?
[05:38] <astro76> albert`, oh.. the sysrescuecd also has partimage on it, that would make it easy
[05:38] <voidmage> Jeeebus: sorry, wrong nick
[05:39] <n2diy> nickrud: ah yes, haven't played with setserial in years either.
[05:39] <voidmage> anyone know what's up with the latest nvidia drivers and: ERROR: Unable to determine the NVIDIA kernel module filename. ?
[05:39] <albert`> astro76: Woah. So I simply make a new ext3. Copy all files, and my Ubuntu will work? The only problem I think will be the GRUBLoader, since I run Vista, XP, and Ubuntu on this PC
[05:39] <nj786> nickrud: doesnt help
[05:39] <n2diy> nj786: let me think.
[05:39] <nickrud> nj786, why not? it explains about enabling proposed-updates & installing flashplugin-nonfree
[05:39] <astro76> albert`, i'd look into partimage, and grub might need to be fixed afterwards but that's easy
[05:40] <LordArtemis> I'm trying to install xubuntu with the alternate install disc and it hangs every time 85% through the "Select and install software" part.  It's right after it installs the xubuntu-desktop package.  I have 128 MB RAM  Anyone have any ideas?
[05:40] <albert`> astro76: Lol I am a complete Ubuntu noob. I wouldn't know how to fix it =(
[05:40] <astro76> albert`, we can help! ;)
[05:40] <jmad9801> any one know how to configure graphics acceleration  on a video card
[05:40] <nickrud> madman91, in ~/.bashrc there should be a section with # set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists,
[05:40] <DennisTT> Where can I enable dual-monitor display in ubuntu?
[05:40] <flodine> help please i have 18.1 mbps download speed but soon as i turn on firestarter it slows to 2 mbps can someone help
[05:41] <madman91> nickrud: aha! thanks
[05:41] <nickrud> !xinerama | DennisTT
[05:41] <ubotu> DennisTT: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[05:41] <n2diy> nj786: you could play with chmod, on I file you can sacrifice if things get AFU?
[05:41] <nickrud> madman91, yw
[05:41] <voidmage> madman91: SHOULD just have to mkdir ~/bin and restart your session
If you are trying to use the latest driver for NVIDIA and have an older one installed in  kernel module. You need to delete the one and install the newest module ... I believe there is one on line I had a coworker explain it to me in the passing.
[05:41] <nj786> n2diy: screw that lol
[05:41] <DennisTT> !DualHead
[05:41] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[05:41] <madman91> voidmage: but it doesnt work.. none of them execute
[05:41] <albert`> astro76: Nice =D. Do you suggest I use partimage or gparted when I burn the CD and use it
[05:41] <nj786> n2diy: ubuntu sometimes pisses me off
[05:41] <voidmage> madman91: must be commented out in .bashrc like nickrud said
[05:41] <voidmage> trelous: pretty sure i don't
[05:42] <madman91> voidmage: its not.. cant i just inserT?
[05:42] <n2diy> nj786: what are you trying to do?
[05:42] <Plantain> How do I make something run on startup?
[05:42] <trelous>  <voidmage> I should say I beleive there is a walk threw online if you google it ... if I get a chance I will see if I can find it.
[05:42] <Plantain> That is, a commandline application
[05:42] <nj786> n2diy: im trying to go o na website but it require flash
[05:42] <Maxdamantus> Plantain, add a script to /etc/init.d
[05:42] <Plantain> A script?
[05:42] <voidmage> madman91: check in .profile
[05:42] <astro76> albert`, both... partimage just for the partition that can't be moved in parted
[05:42] <Plantain> Isn't there something I could just append it to?
[05:42] <madman91> voidmage: ~/.profile ?
[05:42] <albert`> astro76: Thanks, nmow burning cd
[05:42] <jmad9801> how do you con figure x i
[05:42] <voidmage> madman91: yeah
[05:42] <Maxdamantus> Plantain, If you call the script "helloworld", then enter this into the terminal as root: rc-update add helloworld default
[05:42] <nickrud> madman91, there's a three line fragment that follows the line I gave, is it there?
[05:43] <jmad9801> how do you con figure x
[05:43] <nj786> n2diy: www.toyota.com/
[05:43] <Maxdamantus> Plantain, just make a seperate script, it's easy.
[05:43] <madman91> nickrud: there is no #path or anything
[05:43] <lietu> jmad9801: define configure
[05:43] <lietu> ermh
[05:43] <Maxdamantus> Or a symlink.
[05:43] <voidmage> if [ -d ~/bin ]  ; then
[05:43] <voidmage>     PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}"
[05:43] <voidmage> fi
[05:43] <nickrud> madman91, let me pm you the lines
[05:43] <Plantain> Maxdamantus: Sooo, what should be in the script? I guess it's Bash for a start
[05:43] <jmad9801> graphics acceleration
[05:43] <nickrud> or not :)
[05:43] <Maxdamantus> Yea, you could just make a symlink.
[05:43] <madman91> nickrud: looks like voidimage just did :)
[05:43] <lietu> jmad9801: to turn on graphics acceleration you need the drivers for your graphics card most propably
[05:43] <Maxdamantus> Plantain: Is what you want a command already?
[05:44] <madman91> nickrud: put that into .bashrc?
[05:44] <n2diy> nj786: ok, be careful, I gave up on Flash plug ins, the killed this box last year, when I tried installing them. The bare metal recovery took three days.
[05:44] <nickrud> madman91, yes
[05:44] <lietu> install nvidia/ati restricted drivers, they should configure X for you
[05:44] <DennisTT> I think I need some help installing Ubuntu.  I can't see the bottom of the Install screen, but I can't change the resolution higher than 800x600 :S
[05:44] <Plantain> Maxdamantus: Yes, it's an IP update command
[05:44] <albert`> astro76: How much longer will you be online for?
[05:44] <nickrud> madman91, then     source .bashrc
[05:44] <Maxdamantus> Plantain, does it require any arguments?
[05:44] <Plantain> Yes
[05:44] <Maxdamantus> Then make it a simple bash script.
[05:44] <madman91> nickrud: woot! thank you thank thank you
[05:44] <BillTheFish> how does one execute a .run file through the terminal?
[05:44] <madman91> voidmage:  woot! thank you thank thank you
[05:44] <jmad9801> it has it in the kde configure in kubunutu but doesn't say anything about the acceleration
[05:44] <Jeeebus> anyone know of any websites to optimize gnome? i noticed today that it runs much slower than my windows installation
[05:44] <nickrud> madman91, yw
[05:44] <reanjr> Whenever I run totem my desktop background image gets set to the GNOME one (which I have disabled in application settings: /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop).  Anyone have any ideas?
[05:44] <n2diy> nj786: any meaning to your nick?
[05:45] <lietu> BillTheFish: chmod +x file.run; ./file.run
[05:45] <jmad9801> reanjr install kde
[05:45] <astro76> albert`, can't really guarantee anything. ;) probably a couple of hours, and I'm sure you'll find others who can help too
[05:45] <lousygarua> Plantain: Maxdamantus: writing shell scripts in python is more fun :)
[05:45] <reanjr> jmad9801: I don't use GNOME, I'm not about to start using KDE
[05:45] <Maxdamantus> Plantain, you can just do something like: #!/bin/bash<newline>myipupdatecommand some arguments
[05:45] <lietu> Plantain: you could add it to /etc/rc.local
[05:45] <BillTheFish> Thanks lietu
[05:45] <Maxdamantus> Where <newline> is a new line. :P
[05:45] <mactimes> Hey there
[05:45] <albert`> astro76: Ok thanks lol. I asked 4 times b4, and u answered on my 4th time asking xD
[05:45] <mactimes> Hello Human Beings!
[05:46] <bruenig> !hi | mactimes
[05:46] <Maxdamantus> Oh, Ubuntu doesn't even have rc-update.
[05:46] <ubotu> mactimes: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:46] <jmad9801> you run both on linux
[05:46] <CorpseFeeder> Anyone encountered this and know how to fix it? "The OpenGL extension 'GLX' is not supported by the X server or there was a problem retrieving GLX information from the X server."
[05:46] <jmad9801> also they share libs
[05:46] <astro76> Maxdamantus, you mean update-rc.d ?
[05:46] <nickrud> Maxdamantus, you mean update-rc.d?
[05:46] <RedMage> I need to write a bash script to delete files that are ten days old from a folder
[05:46] <astro76> hehe
[05:47] <lietu> RedMage: try #bash
[05:47] <mactimes> I was wondering if someone could give me some tips on cbq.  I looked everywhere and couldn't find anything the the specific situation I have.
[05:47] <Maxdamantus> astro76, I guess that's the equivalent of it.. Yea.
[05:47] <Maxdamantus> Gentoo's rc-update is cooler though.
[05:48] <lietu> mactimes: just ask a specific question instead of 7 lines of introductions 8 lines of saying you have a problem and 0 lines of explaining what the problem is, what errors you get and all other relevant information
[05:48] <astro76> RedMage, I think you can do that with 1 find command
[05:48] <mactimes> lietu: Roger that
[05:48] <reanjr> RedMage: for f in `find . -ctime 10`; do rm $f; done
[05:48] <reanjr> RedMage or something to that effect
[05:48] <NickGarvey> lietu: wow you typed all that out?  I just do a !anyone|mactimes or whatever
[05:48] <hexstar> !anyone
[05:48] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:49] <lietu> NickGarvey: I'm not too familiar with the !commands here
[05:49] <hexstar> !commands
[05:49] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[05:49] <bruenig> !opsnack | lietu
[05:49] <ubotu> lietu: Chocolate!  And Peanuts!
[05:49] <lietu> err, lol? ;)
[05:49] <hexstar> !optoilet
[05:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about optoilet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:49] <NickGarvey> !msgthebot | hexstar
[05:49] <ubotu> hexstar: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:49] <Maxdamantus> !opsack Cookie
[05:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opsack cookie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:49] <Maxdamantus> !opsnack Cookie
[05:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opsnack cookie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:49] <Maxdamantus> ..
[05:49] <astro76> RedKrieg, find . -ctime 10 -exec rm {} \;
[05:49] <bruenig> idiot
[05:49] <Maxdamantus> !botfeed
[05:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botfeed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:50] <Maxdamantus> Meh, stuff it.
[05:50] <Maxdamantus> Can't remember what it was.
[05:50] <hexstar> !idiot
[05:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about idiot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:50] <taxman> does kverbos work for anybody else on Feisty or is it just me it's broken for?
[05:50] <NickGarvey> hexstar: message the bot to find out about commands
[05:50] <hexstar> !info kverbos
[05:50] <ubotu> kverbos: Spanish verb form study application for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 435 kB, installed size 1056 kB
[05:50] <n2diy> poor ubotu.
[05:50] <LordArtemis> I'm trying to install xubuntu with the alternate install disc and it hangs every time 85% through the "Select and install software" part.  It's right after it installs the xubuntu-desktop package.  I have 128 MB RAM  Anyone have any ideas?
[05:51] <CorpseFeeder> what's this mean? "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"."
[05:51] <DARKGuy> CorpseFeeder: that you have no 3D acceleration
[05:51] <NickGarvey> LordArtemis: try the - oh you are using it
[05:51] <LordArtemis> yeah =P
[05:51] <hexstar> NickGarvey: that doesn't work
[05:51] <hexstar> hexstar: what are your commands?
[05:51] <hexstar> [8:51pm]  ubotu: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intellige
[05:51] <NickGarvey> LordArtemis: uhm hm, you sure it is hanging and not just taking a while?
[05:51] <NickGarvey> hexstar: just say "commands" or "help"
[05:51] <LordArtemis> 3 hours long enough? =)
[05:51] <bruenig> !ot | hexstar
[05:51] <ubotu> hexstar: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:51] <NickGarvey> LordArtemis: mm..
[05:51] <CorpseFeeder> DARKGuy: Well I did have.. all I did was update the video driver.. what went wrong?
[05:52] <DARKGuy> CorpseFeeder: well it depends, what is your video card ?
[05:52] <NickGarvey> LordArtemis: try the normal install cd by any chance?
[05:52] <NickGarvey> LordArtemis: for xubuntu?
[05:52] <LordArtemis> tried it
[05:52] <taxman> anyone willing to install kverbos to see if they can successfully practice with it?
[05:52] <LordArtemis> doesn't work at all :/
[05:52] <NickGarvey> LordArtemis: either way, at this point I would suggest the server install cd, then running "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" after you get on your feet
[05:52] <bruenig> even the alternate cd hides too much from the user during installation, I would choose another distro that has a more transparent install process so you are able to see exactly where the problem is instead of the click and pray style
[05:52] <CorpseFeeder> DARKGuy: An old GeForce4 MX 420 (0x0172)
[05:52] <LordArtemis> ugh, lol...
[05:52] <mactimes> I have a Ubuntu box with interface eth0 directly connected to the internet, with public static IP address and eth1 on private network, with several subinterfaces and each subinterface has an IP address in a subnet.  How do I control internet bandwidth limit for each subnet using cbq (shaper)?
[05:53] <NickGarvey> bruenig: expert mode?
[05:53] <bruenig> NickGarvey, it doesn't show apt output
[05:53] <n2diy> bruenig: knoppix?
[05:53] <bruenig> knoppix is a live cd
[05:53] <hexstar> mactimes: man cbq
[05:53] <n2diy> bruenig: and an install CD, at least with 3.6
[05:53] <bruenig> n2diy, what is your point
[05:53] <DARKGuy> CorpseFeeder: okay, what drivers did you install? from the repository or the official nVIDIA site?
[05:54] <n2diy> bruenig: it's a good trouble shooting distro.
[05:54] <CorpseFeeder> DARKGuy: I use the ones from Nvidia's site... the repository drivers never worked properly for this card or only half worked.
[05:54] <lietu> and if your problem is distro-specific? ;)
[05:54] <hexstar> I tried knoppix on my mac pro...it froze when looking for cd :(
[05:55] <bruenig> knoppix can't be installed
[05:55] <NickGarvey> bruenig: no.. it can be..
[05:55] <bruenig> not the official one
[05:55] <NickGarvey> bruenig: I think there is even an install button
[05:55] <LordArtemis> NickGarvey: is the server thing on the alternate disc?
[05:55] <taxman> yes it can
[05:55] <n2diy> bruenig: sure it can, I running it here!
[05:55] <NickGarvey> bruenig: uhm..
[05:55] <Music_Shuffle> There's definitely an install button
[05:55] <hexstar> bruenig: there is a install script with knoppix, but no one really wants to install it :P
[05:55] <Music_Shuffle> s/button/command
[05:55] <NickGarvey> LordArtemis: I don't believe so, it is a separate iso
[05:55] <Music_Shuffle> hexstar, unless you're me, in which you can attest to why its a bad idea to do so after the fact :P
[05:55] <bruenig> hmm, my knoppix must be old
[05:56] <DennisTT> I'm trying to install Ubuntu, but I can't see the bottom of the install window and I can't change my resolution higher than 800x600.  What should I do?
[05:56] <Music_Shuffle> in which case*
[05:56] <LordArtemis> will it install on 128 MB RAM?
[05:56] <bruenig> n2diy, the install process shows apt output?
[05:56] <hexstar> Music_Shuffle: lol, I might install the dvd knoppix version at some point tho
[05:56] <DARKGuy> CorpseFeeder: well I haven't had experience with that card... only an old Riva TNT2 and a GF4... mm did the nvidia driver installed correctly, or did it say your card was not supported by the driver?
[05:56] <hexstar> LordArtemis: not with a gui
[05:56] <mactimes> hexstar: I don't mean to be rude, but if you don't intend to help, it would be better not to write a letter at all.
[05:56] <NickGarvey> LordArtemis: server install?  I installed with 32MB
[05:56] <reanjr> DennisTT: have you tried alt-click dragging the window up?
[05:56] <taxman> DennisTT: try the alternate install cd?
[05:56] <hexstar> mactimes: ok
[05:56] <Fernandoo-cam> hi
[05:56] <DennisTT> reanjr: Hey that works, thanks
[05:56] <n2diy> bruenig: what version?
[05:57] <bruenig> n2diy, any of them
[05:57] <reanjr> DennisTT: no prob
[05:57] <DARKGuy> taxman: I'm Venezuelan and native Spanish-speaker... kverbos looks confusing, it keeps throwing errors about not being able to find verbs with the standard verbs file...
[05:57] <Fernandoo-cam> where i can download ubuntu ?
[05:57] <hexstar> mactimes: please let me know if you find a solution as your setup sounds very interesting
[05:57] <LordArtemis> alright, thanks for your help.  I'm amassing quite the collection of CDs >.<
[05:57] <DARKGuy> taxman: but pressing the Solucin (Solve, Solution?) button puts the right words
[05:57] <||drake||> zerokill88
[05:57] <ashnickel> hello, I have a locked file on my desktop, how do I move it and how do I unlock it, it's from my printer and i dont' need it on my desktop
[05:57] <hexstar> Fernandoo-cam: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[05:57] <n2diy> bruenig: not 3.6, what install "process" are you trying?
[05:57] <zerokill88> hey
[05:57] <bruenig> n2diy, my initial comment was to use a distro that had more meaningful install output and you recommended knoppix, does knoppix have meaningful install output or is it click and pray
[05:57] <mactimes> hexstar: Sure.
[05:57] <astro76> !download | Fernandoo-cam
[05:57] <ubotu> Fernandoo-cam: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[05:57] <zerokill88> ||drake|| you back?
[05:57] <hexstar> mactimes: :)
[05:58] <mactimes> hexstar: =)
[05:58] <NickGarvey> NickGarvey: :)
[05:58] <n2diy> bruenig: it shows you dmesg as you are booting.
[05:58] <||drake||> zerokill88 yea, i think im gonna boot into vista real quick, check my hardware info, just to be sure that its the right card... i dont know why it wouldnt be, but i'll check anyway
[05:58] <bruenig> n2diy, my initial comment was to use a distro that had more meaningful install output and you recommended knoppix, does knoppix have meaningful install output or is it click and pray
[05:58] <CorpseFeeder> DARKGuy: I encountered no problems with the nivida installer. it told me everything was installed successfully. Up until now I was using the 96xx drivers and only changed to the 71xx legacy driver today and that stopped GL working.... ;(
[05:58] <hexstar> ||drake|| lspci
[05:58] <zerokill88> ||drake|| hey wait
[05:58] <||drake||> what
[05:58] <||drake||> ?
[05:58] <voidmage> anyone know what's up with the latest nvidia drivers and: ERROR: Unable to determine the NVIDIA kernel module filename. ?
[05:58] <Fernandoo-cam> whats the last version ?
[05:58] <hexstar> you can use lspci to view pci info
[05:58] <zerokill88> ||drake|| whats the exact modle of you sony, it might use a different driver
[05:58] <n2diy> bruenig: it shows you dmesg as you are booting, and is a text based install.
[05:58] <||drake||> hexstar: i've lspci'd til my eyes have bled
[05:58] <DARKGuy> CorpseFeeder: huh... :( weird. if the 96xx driver was working why'd you change?
[05:58] <bruenig> n2diy, does it show install output or not
[05:58] <hexstar> ||drake||: oh
[05:59] <NickGarvey> Fernandoo-cam: uhm... 7.04
[05:59] <||drake||> zerokill88: VGN-FZ190
[05:59] <bruenig> n2diy, does it show selecting such and such package and installing such and such package or not
[05:59] <taxman> join #ubuntu+1
[05:59] <zerokill88> ||drake|| instead of ipw3945 it was like 4 something
[05:59] <hexstar> voidmage: it means it doesn't know what your nvidia card is called
[05:59] <zerokill88> ||drake|| once sec let me show you
[05:59] <ashnickel> how do you lspci???
[05:59] <n2diy> bruenig: yes, yes, and yes.
[05:59] <voidmage> hexstar: know how to fix that?
[05:59] <Habibah> ce_g
[05:59] <Fernandoo-cam> thanks dudes
[05:59] <HelpMe> Hello, i'm trying to install a game called eternal lands.  I downloaded it but i dont know how to install it.  It says i have to do this to install it:  To play on Linux:
[05:59] <HelpMe> Download the zip file, and unzip it.
[05:59] <HelpMe> cd to the directory where you installed it.
[05:59] <HelpMe> chmod to 775 and execute el.x86.linux.bin
[05:59] <HelpMe> edit el.ini and change datadir to where you unzip everything
[05:59] <HelpMe> Also, the zip file has no base directory, so you should unzip it in a newdirectory you create.
[05:59] <HelpMe> To play under FreeBSD, download the Linux version, download the code from the CVS, and use the freebsd make file.
[05:59] <lietu> ashnickel: simple, open up a terminal, type in "lspci" and press enter
[05:59] <hexstar> voidmage: paste your lspci output on pastebin.com and link to the paste
[05:59] <astro76> ashnickel, in a terminal
[05:59] <bruenig> hmmm
[05:59] <astro76> !paste | HelpMe
[05:59] <ubotu> HelpMe: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:59] <Music_Shuffle> !enter | HelpMe
[05:59] <ubotu> HelpMe: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:00] <zerokill88> ||drake|| 190 what?
[06:00] <ashnickel> ok, thanks
[06:00] <enterneo> hey!, I am on Feisty, I was thinking of installing Compiz Fusion, I already have Beryl installed, Do I need to uninstall it first ?
[06:00] <||drake||> zerokill88: ??
[06:00] <zerokill88> ||drake|| 190 what?  	
[06:00] <zerokill88> VGN-FZ190N1?
[06:00] <Habibah> ce_g
[06:00] <zerokill88> VGN-FZ190N2?
[06:00] <zerokill88> VGN-FZ190N3?
[06:00] <||drake||> zerokill: how do i check?
[06:00] <NickGarvey> enterneo: it would be smart to do so
[06:00] <bruenig> voidmage, when do you get that error?
[06:00] <voidmage> hexstar:  http://pastebin.com/m1d0ea771
[06:00] <lietu> HelpMe: what part of the detailed instructions escapes you?
[06:00] <Habibah> Surabaya
[06:00] <voidmage> bruenig: when i run the installer
[06:00] <||drake||> zerokill: i custom built it, i think that means
[06:00] <ashnickel> help, how do i unlock a desktop icon?
[06:00] <||drake||> zerokill88: fz190CTO or something
[06:00] <bruenig> voidmage, the installer from nvidia?
[06:00] <voidmage> yeah
[06:00] <HelpMe> lietu:  i'm just new to this stuff
[06:00] <voidmage> right before that error i get this
[06:00] <CorpseFeeder> DARKGuy: i meant 9631 to 9639 d'oh I was loking at the wrong file..
[06:01] <voidmage> make: *** [print-module-filename]  Error 1
[06:01] <hexstar> voidmage: this could be the issue: #
[06:01] <hexstar> 05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0402 (rev a                                                                                                   1)
[06:01] <zerokill88> ||drake|| oh well on the specs page for your laptop i get this       Wireless LAN  	:   	Intel PRO/Wireless 4965AGN Network Connection (802.11a/b/g/n)
[06:01] <hexstar> linux doesn't seem to know what your card is
[06:01] <enterneo> ok, One more thing, just like I have a Beryl manager right now, would I have an equivalent Compiz Fusion manager?
[06:01] <hexstar> I don't know if you can manually feed the driver installer a card model
[06:01] <compz> what's the best way to share directories through linux boxes? (nfs, samba, etc)?
[06:01] <NickGarvey> compz: nfs works well for me
[06:01] <voidmage> hexstar: the readme says 0402 is a 8600 GT
[06:01] <hexstar> compz: nfs if linux only
[06:01] <bruenig> ||drake||, 4965 is ndiswrapper maybe to get it to work, and 4965 would explain all the problems you have had
[06:01] <voidmage> which is right
[06:02] <sport> how do you stop the gui (gnome) ctrl-alt-backspace is restarting it ( why is that default?)
[06:02] <astro76> sport, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[06:02] <bruenig> sport, probably because inittab is setup to respawn
[06:02] <||drake||> zerokill88: weird, on the sony site, it advertised it as 3945... but now that you mention it, 4965 sounds familiar. should i just boot into vista to look at my hardware info, then come back and know for certain?
[06:02] <DARKGuy> CorpseFeeder: Oh - IIRC, 9639 doesn't work with a card similar to yours... mine is newer than yours and it doesn't work :( I have to use 9631... if you still want to give it a try, try opening a terminal and typing: "gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"... that'll open you the X config. Try scrolling down to Section "Device" and tell me what does the line "Driver" says
[06:02] <reanjr> compz: you need to share with Windows?  And are yo ua commandline person?
[06:02] <hexstar> voidmage: hmm, not sure how to feed that into the installer unfortunately
[06:02] <NickGarvey> sport: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:02] <n2diy> sport, you might have better luck in #gnome?
[06:02] <lietu> HelpMe: the instructions say: extract the .zip, open up a terminal, type cd directory-you-extracted-to, type chmod 755 el.x86.linux.bin, type ./el.x86.linux.bin, open el.ini in your favorite text editor and change "datadir" to the directory you extracted to
[06:02] <||drake||> zerokill88: it'll take like one minute
[06:02] <zerokill88> ||drake|| ya probably jsut to verify what it is
[06:02] <tgm4883_laptop> Besides mdadm, is there any other software raid solution?  I have a pci ide controller, and i'm not seeing the attached drives in mdadm
[06:03] <JBandP> I just did a reinstall of ubuntu-server. for some reason my desltop res is stuck at only 3 options.  640,800,1024.  i have a widescreen.  how can i alter this setting?
[06:03] <||drake||> zerokill88: alright, ah'll be bach
[06:03] <seabag> JBandP,
[06:03] <NickGarvey> JBandP: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and go through the proper selection of resolution
[06:03] <seabag> JBandP, i think i can help wit hthat
[06:03] <seabag> yea what nick said!
[06:03] <CorpseFeeder> DARKGuy: I'm just going to reinstall the other driver. fanx for helping...
[06:03] <zerokill88> ||drake|| k
[06:03] <compz> reanjr, maybe, samba sucks for linux-only boxes, nfs works very well, but wanted to know if there was a better alternative than nfs, and why
[06:03] <ashnickel> does anyone know why I have a locked icon for my printer on my desktop after installing my hp printer?
[06:03] <HelpMe> No such file or directory
[06:03] <hexstar> compz: what's wrong with nfs?
[06:03] <HelpMe>  lietu
[06:03] <lietu> HelpMe: then you aren't doing what I said
[06:04] <reanjr> compz: for that type of thing, I don't know of anything better than nfs.  I personally use ssh
[06:04] <DARKGuy> cori[s] : Okay then, good luck :)
[06:04] <sport> astro76 thx :d
[06:04] <Jack_Sparrow> ashnickel: how did you install the printer?
[06:04] <compz> reanjr, you use ssh for transfering files?
[06:04] <lietu> HelpMe: you also aren't telling me when you got that error
[06:04] <bruenig> compz, nfs is the best option
[06:04] <ashnickel> I downloaded something.
[06:04] <reanjr> compz: yeah, with scp and nautilus supports viewing remote ssh directories
[06:04] <JBandP> it says xserver is not install. do i  run sudo get-int install xserver
[06:04] <ashnickel> the printer works now.
[06:04] <NickGarvey> ashnickel: me too
[06:04] <ZeXr0> high i've install a little app which is dellfand, that starts my fan on my laptop when my CPU reach a certain temperature I found this there http://dellfand.dinglisch.net/ . Can someone help me install this as a Daemon ?
[06:05] <compz> reanjr, I also like ssh, but never used it to transfer files ;P
[06:05] <ashnickel> but, i have this icon that i can't move
[06:05] <n2diy> compz, ssh uses scp to transfer files.
[06:05] <hexstar> jbandp: sudo apt-get install xserver*
[06:05] <JBandP> oppe.  made a typo.
[06:05] <reanjr> compz: you can do something like scp user@host:path/to/file .
[06:05] <JBandP> i said org, not xorg
[06:05] <hexstar> get-int is not a valid command
[06:05] <voidmage> hexstar: i really don't see what's wrong
[06:05] <JBandP> is there a util i can use to configure my wireless card?
[06:05] <voidmage> hexstar: i don't see anything that's necessarily missing, and don't know where to go from here
[06:05] <ashnickel> Jack_sparrow: it was a driver or something, it was late i don't remember
[06:05] <hexstar> voidmage: I don't either, the only clue I have is that in the lspci output it said unknown
[06:05] <NickGarvey> !wireless | JBandP
[06:05] <ubotu> JBandP: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:05] <jmg> hi all
[06:06] <jmg> !compiz
[06:06] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:06] <hexstar> and that might be throwing it off
[06:06] <reanjr> JBandP: nm-applet in conjunction with NetworkManager works best in my opinion
[06:06] <voidmage> hexstar: i think that might be common though
[06:06] <hexstar> voidmage: yeah I have heard of troubles with that card
[06:06] <hexstar> and ubuntu
[06:06] <HelpMe> lietu:   when i put the first thing in the termanal
[06:06] <voidmage> hexstar: of course, figures i get the messed up one.
[06:06] <voidmage> but at least it's not ati
[06:06] <voidmage> :P
[06:06] <hexstar> voidmage: lol...well you can always find a good deal on ebay :)
[06:06] <Jack_Sparrow> ashnickel: Sorry, cant help much if you dont know what you did, where you got it...  I was heading to bed anyhow
[06:06] <tgm4883_laptop> Anyone know of a software RAID solution besides mdadm?  I have a pci ide controller, and i'm not seeing the attached drives in mdadm
[06:07] <JBandP> do i need to download networkmanager?
[06:07] <ashnickel> darn
[06:07] <hexstar> tgm4883_laptop: I'd get a pci raid controller, hardware raid is the best raid
[06:07] <lietu> HelpMe: I assumed you blindly typed in "cd directory-you-extracted-to" instead of actually READING what I typed and realizing that I meant you type in the folder name you extracted to, instead of "directory-you-extracted-to"
[06:07] <lietu> -d
[06:07] <tgm4883_laptop> hexstar, i agree, but all I really want is a little redundency on a home server
[06:08] <n2diy> tgm4883_laptop: for back up purposes?
[06:08] <HelpMe> lietu:   right, ok, I extracted it into Luke. so what do i put?
[06:09] <tgm4883_laptop> yea, just in case 1 drive fails, I would hate to die when my girlfriend loses all her pictures
[06:09] <hexstar> tgm4883_laptop: I got a cheap $70 pci raid controller from compusa, seems like what you'd be looking for
[06:09] <reanjr> tgm4883_laptop: rsync might be a better option for simple backups
[06:09] <HelpMe> lietu:  wait, no, desktop
[06:09] <lietu> HelpMe: I've got other things to do right now, either try and figure it out by yourself, it really shouldn't require too much brainpower to figure out what the Desktop/foldername is supposed to be, especially as you should see the name on the desktop.. if you can't manage that, ask someone else, I'm off
[06:10] <hexstar> the only hard part is desktop machines don't suport hotswapping :P
[06:10] <lock1> how do i unpack an lzm file?
[06:10] <hexstar> !lzm
[06:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lzm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:10] <reanjr> a valiant attempt
[06:10] <lock1> !lzm2dir
[06:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lzm2dir - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <n2diy> tgm4883_laptop: check out http://www.mondorescue.org/ Get the latest, the Ubuntu repos are out of date.
[06:11] <jmg> !xgl
[06:11] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:11] <hexstar> never heard of lzm files myself
[06:11] <jmg> i dont have xgl in gutsy :/
[06:11] <jmg> E: Couldn't find package xserver-xgl
[06:11] <voidmage> anybody know what a make error 1 is?
[06:11] <tgm4883_laptop> thanks, i'll look into it
[06:11] <n2diy> ! ubuntu+1 | jmg
[06:11] <ubotu> jmg: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[06:11] <hexstar> voidmage: what are you trying to compile?
[06:12] <voidmage> hexstar: that's the error nvidia installer gives me
[06:12] <voidmage> make: *** [print-module-filename]  Error 1
[06:12] <hexstar> oh, does it give you anything above that?
[06:12] <voidmage> nope
[06:12] <tgm4883_laptop> lock1, a quick search in synaptic found p7zip
[06:12] <sipalui> hello all
[06:12] <voidmage> that's the first thing, then the error about the filename
[06:12] <sipalui> i need help
[06:12] <riotkittie> i give up :|
[06:12] <voidmage> i've narrowed it down to a few things
[06:12] <hexstar> voidmage: that's not very helpful...usually the actual compile error is somewhere above that error
[06:12] <voidmage> nope, that's the first error.
[06:12] <voidmage> before that is the unpacking message
[06:12] <hexstar> what's the second one?
[06:12] <lock1> tgm4883_laptop: yes i tried that and it didn't seem to help, let me go through the manpages again to see
[06:13] <voidmage> ERROR: Unable to determine the NVIDIA kernel module filename.
[06:13] <astro76> lock1, make sure you install p7zip-full
[06:13] <n2diy> riotkittie: ususally you are here helping people, it is weird to see getting frustrated.
[06:13] <voidmage> could it have to do with a new version of libc packaged today?
[06:13] <voidmage> and haven't seen a kernel update with that yet?
[06:13] <lock1> astro76: did that
[06:13] <john> How do I install ubuntu from a floppy?
[06:14] <hexstar> voidmage: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=79902 perhaps?
[06:14] <reanjr> john: carefully
[06:14] <sipalui> i can not play the music with music player
[06:14] <voidmage> hexstar: nope, that bug was fixed already
[06:14] <riotkittie> n2diy > im starting to think im just not meant to use ubuntu beyond 6.06  :)
[06:14] <voidmage> tried it already
[06:14] <n2diy> ! install | john
[06:14] <ubotu> john: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[06:14] <reanjr> john: do you not have a CD drive attached to the machine or is there some other reason?
[06:14] <hexstar> voidmage: it actually seems to be associated with the kernel headers missing
[06:14] <hexstar> you'll need to install them
[06:14] <punsad> john: if by floppy you mean CD - no problem :)
[06:14] <voidmage> hexstar: i have them.
[06:15] <john> reanjr: I have a a machine without a cdrom drive but has onboard ethernet.
[06:15] <n2diy> riotkittie: Umm, ok, why would you want to leave the Dapper family?
[06:15] <hexstar> voidmage: hmmm...
[06:15] <hexstar> voidmage: are you running it as root?
[06:15] <voidmage> only thing i can think of is some update pushed out today
[06:15] <voidmage> hexstar: yeah
[06:15] <sipalui> i have some mp3 song, but can not play it with music player
[06:15] <voidmage> what comes to mind for today's updates includes a new libc
[06:15] <sipalui> can somebody help me?
[06:15] <hexstar> voidmage: yeah, I'm not sure what would cause that...I've always had success running the installer myself
[06:15] <reanjr> john: I wonder if it would be quicker to set up a netboot... just a thought.
[06:16] <john> reanjr: I have a windows/smb/tftp file server with about 500gb of storage
[06:16] <riotkittie> n2diy > well i wasnt going to leave it. i've got a spare partition :P
[06:16] <hexstar> john: ahhh...you make me remember the good old days when compusa sold external cdrom drives that connected to the printer port :)
[06:16] <punsad> sipalui: you need to install some non-free/proprietary packages.  A quick google search will answer your question
[06:16] <n2diy> riotkittie: Dapper has LTS, and is certified as a linux stable base. Edgy and Feisty aren't.
[06:16] <JBandP> ubuntu is a pain in the ass for ex windows users :\
[06:16] <john> reanjr: the nearest compusa is about 2hrs away from my house
[06:16] <astro76> !codecs | sipalui
[06:16] <hexstar> john: http://mediakey.dk/~cc/ubuntu-netboot-and-netinstall-with-pxe/
[06:16] <ubotu> sipalui: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:17] <reanjr> john: I'm afraid I don't know how to do it offhand.  I've done it before, but I had to read a bunch of documentation
[06:17] <hexstar> john: http://mediakey.dk/~cc/ubuntu-netboot-and-netinstall-with-pxe/
[06:17] <Kain> Do usb flash drives not work with usb hubs? I got a keyboard and it has some usb hub ports, I have my flash drive hooked up but it does not work
[06:17] <riotkittie> lack of stability doesnt phase me :P
[06:17] <||drake||> damnit
[06:17] <||drake||> alright, im on a desktop now
[06:17] <||drake||> because after booting into vista
[06:17] <||drake||> ubuntu no longer works
[06:17] <hexstar> Kain: some usb hubs are better then others
[06:17] <||drake||> for no reason
[06:17] <punsad> JBandP: have you tried kubuntu? kde is more 'windows-like'
[06:17] <X3rus> Does someone know how to establish a GRPS connection on Ubuntu 6?
[06:17] <voidmage> hexstar: reinstalled linux-headers, nothing
[06:17] <astro76> Kain, might need to use a powered hub then
[06:17] <hexstar> voidmage: hmm...not sure, sorry...one of those cases where I'd have to be at the physical computer
[06:17] <riotkittie> ok. i hate myself enough to reboot and try this again. or do i. ehhh.  :|
[06:17] <riotkittie> i want compiiiiiiiiiiiiiz :|
[06:17] <reanjr> X3rus: I'm curious, do you have Ubuntu on your phone?
[06:18] <hexstar> !compiz
[06:18] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:18] <john> Kain: power issues might be a problem, I can't hook up my ipod up to my keyboard but my thumbdrive works
[06:18] <hexstar> reanjr: ubuntu on a phone???
[06:18] <||drake||> zerokill88: any idea why?
[06:18] <Kain> astro76, it works with a mouse. I guess it does not have enough maybe.
[06:18] <voidmage> hexstar: at this point, reinstall?
[06:18] <voidmage> :P
[06:18] <JBandP> my main issue is crap i can't find..   like wireless info, or where the hell i manage my LAMP components. or if it's even installed.
[06:18] <n2diy> riotkittie: So why fiddle with Edgy or Feisty, go for the bleeding edge with Gutsy, they even have their own channel!
[06:18] <hexstar> voidmage: does the gui not work?
[06:18] <reanjr> hexstar: I don't know, X3rus asked about a GPRS connection
[06:18] <voidmage> hexstar: oh right, the gui works
[06:18] <eugman> Is it possible to make a CLI livecd?
[06:18] <X3rus> reanjr: you can connect to a GPRS server from a pc using your modem and some information that your provider give you
[06:19] <hexstar> reanjr: because if you can do ubuntu on a phone I want to know how :D
[06:19] <astro76> Kain, mice are very low current, wouldn't need it
[06:19] <hexstar> you can also call 911 on your cellphone and ask where you are :P
[06:19] <riotkittie> n2diy > right now, gusty's a bit *too* alpha for me :P  i might go for it once i actually have dapper running well on this box :|
[06:19] <punsad> JBandP: last time I installed ubuntu for desktop (i use only as server now) - all the wifi info was nicely summarized in the little applet running in the upper right hand corner of the desktop
[06:19] <reanjr> X3rus:what's the purpose?  To use your already existing net provider instead of paying for a dial-up?
[06:20] <n2diy> riotkittie: Your having trouble with Dapper?
[06:20] <aisman> *peeks into the conversation*
[06:20] <hexstar> lol
[06:20] <dacomp> Hi -- all of the sudden my wireless stopped working today in Feisty -- it connects to the Wireless network, but I can't access any web pages, etc.
[06:20] <X3rus> nop, I need to send information to a GPS Unit that use GPRS to communicate
[06:20] <zerokill88> ||drake|| u there
[06:20] <||drake||> hexstarzerokill88: yea
[06:20] <||drake||> aoseifwaehf
[06:20] <||drake||> zerokill88: yea
[06:20] <aisman> dacomp, check out the dns servers
[06:20] <JBandP> in the top right corner i have something that says "wired Network" or "manual configuration" nothing on wireless
[06:20] <zerokill88> ||drake|| k what did you find
[06:20] <oleksa> Maxdamantus: Hello again.
[06:20] <reanjr> X3Rus: oh, ok... didn't know those existed
[06:20] <dacomp> aisman: what should i be looking for?
[06:20] <Maxdamantus> Hello.
[06:21] <||drake||> zerokill88: you were right, its the 4965 AGN
[06:21] <Maxdamantus> oleksa, Did it not work?
[06:21] <oleksa> Maxdamantus It didn't work, still can't boot from sda
[06:21] <aisman> let me get you the instruccions
[06:21] <riotkittie> n2diy > no. i just got a desktop, and while i've got dapper installed, i have yet to tweak it to my liking. my external drive just died and i have no way to copy ~ over. and i've been too lazy to do it all over :P
[06:21] <zerokill88> ||drake|| ok i may have a slution
[06:21] <voidmage> hexstar: of course i have to use vesa drivers and don't get direct rendering
[06:21] <punsad> JBandP: okay.. time to go commandline.  what does 'cat /proc/net/wireless' give
[06:21] <||drake||> zerokill88: my main problem right now though is that i somehow killed my xserver config by booting into ubuntu
[06:21] <||drake||> :)
[06:21] <Maxdamantus> Hmm.. Odd.
[06:21] <||drake||> *vista
[06:21] <hexstar> voidmage: well better then nothing :)
[06:21] <n2diy> X3rus: I missed your question/problem, I play GPS/APRS here.
[06:21] <aisman> go to connection information to see what are the dns servers
[06:21] <ashnickel> ok, please help, how do I change permissions of a file or folder from root to me
[06:21] <aisman> *which
[06:21] <ianmcorvidae> (( What calculates Concentration Check? ))
[06:21] <||drake||> zerokill88: so now i sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and im up and running
[06:21] <dacomp> aisman: i tried putting in the OpenDNS servers, but that didn't seem to work -- i don't know if Ubuntu is retaining the servers
[06:21] <pumpkinhead> my system crashed during an upgrade and now dpkg is messed up :( help?
[06:21] <Maxdamantus> oleksa, are you sure you're using the correct device?
[06:21] <ianmcorvidae> WHoops, ignore that.
[06:21] <voidmage> hexstar: just remembered the depmod command, see if that does anything
[06:21] <reanjr> ashnickel: chown me:me file
[06:22] <||drake||> zerokill88: what's the solution?
[06:22] <zerokill88> ||drake|| ok sounds good
[06:22] <Maxdamantus> hd0,0 is sda1
[06:22] <oleksa> Maxdamantus yes
[06:22] <hexstar> voidmage: you want me to run depmod?
[06:22] <ashnickel> reanjr: I'm very new to this, please explain?
[06:22] <riotkittie> brb. booting into dapper
[06:22] <voidmage> hexstar: no, i mean me run it
[06:22] <X3rus> n2diy: Hi, look what I Want to do is to send some information to a GPS Unit. It is an Intellitrack X8
[06:22] <hexstar> voidmage: oh ok lol
[06:22] <Maxdamantus> Try installing it to a floppy, to see if it will work there.
[06:22] <reanjr> ashnickel: are you at the command line where the file is?
[06:22] <zerokill88> ||drake|| private chat me
[06:22] <aisman> ok, try this addresses: 201.225.225.226
[06:22] <n2diy> riotkittie: Sorry to here that! But stuff does happen. I'm working on a back up solution for Dapper too. Mondorescue looks promising, but...
[06:22] <JBandP> punsad: it displays some info like Quality, discared packets etc etc
[06:22] <reanjr> ashnickel: or are you using a file manager
[06:22] <Maxdamantus> And if it does, try installing to the hard drive from a floppy.
[06:22] <ashnickel> reanjr: the file is on my desktop
[06:22] <TimeTraveller> hey everyone... i need some help ... i have to upload a mp3 file thats about 110 mb ... really need a dump ... it only one person that going to download it =/
[06:22] <aisman> or 200.75.200.3
[06:22] <voidmage> nope
[06:22] <voidmage> didn't fix it
[06:22] <hexstar> hmm...sorry, not sure
[06:22] <astro76> ashnickel, just type sudo chown user:user filename, replacing user with your username, type whoami if you don't know it
[06:23] <One2abusE> i'm on a old laptop with  an old linksys wireless pcmcia card, i have the wireless working but everytime i reboot i have to load the module for the wireless again. is there a config i can adjust so that it always loads the correct wireless module on boot up?
[06:23] <n2diy> X3rus: what is the interface, serial, or USB?
[06:23] <oleksa> Maxdamantus I don't have a fd on this system right now
[06:23] <astro76> ashnickel, can you open a terminal?
[06:23] <jaySee> Ok so i am trying to move my usr dir form sda6 to sda9 i moved it over ok and i added this http://pastebin.ca/636726 to my fstab(see first line), it still does not see it at boot,Any ideas?
[06:23] <dacomp> aisman: how do you recommend i go about changing the DNS?
[06:23] <hexstar> One2abuse: you could add the module loading command to /etc/rc.local
[06:23] <punsad> JBandP: it should display info in a table format and there should be some 'line-items' for each recognized wifi interface
[06:23] <Maxdamantus> Hmm..
[06:23] <zerokill88> ||drake|| ?
[06:23] <aisman> give me a second dacomp, ill look for it
[06:23] <X3rus> n2diy: Is serial, but I want to connect wireless using GPRS
[06:23] <One2abusE> hextstar: just at the bottom ?
[06:24] <hexstar> One2abusE: yeah
[06:24] <||drake||> zerokill88: im in the privatechat
[06:24] <punsad> JBandP: what sort of interfaces are shown when you do command : 'iwconfig'
[06:24] <JBandP> punsad: i see a table. but it doesnt look to be populated with anything
[06:24] <punsad> JBandP: e.g. ath0, wifi0, sit0,....
[06:24] <One2abusE> hexstar: cool i'll give that a shot..
[06:24] <aisman> go to manual configuration, dns tab, and add 200.75.200.3
[06:24] <zerokill88> ||drake|| im not getting any message form u in provate
[06:24] <hexstar> One2abusE: ok :)
[06:24] <n2diy> X3rus: I don't understand, you are talking to your GPS, and want to broadcast it's info on wifi?
[06:25] <punsad> JBandP: did you do the iwconfig command
[06:25] <JBandP> lo : no wireless extentions eth0 no wireless extensions
[06:25] <aisman> then drag it to the first place
[06:25] <eugman> How can I check my local ip?
[06:25] <aisman> eth0 is ethernet
[06:25] <aisman> ath0 is wireless
[06:25] <pumpkinhead> how do i recover from a crash which left system packages corrupted?
[06:25] <punsad> JBandP: that's your problem... no wifi interfaces are recognized.
[06:25] <reanjr> aisman: not alwaysd
[06:25] <hexstar> pumpkinhead: fsck
[06:25] <aisman> but almost always :)
[06:25] <dacomp> aisman: what if i'm connecting to an open network without wep/wpa?
[06:25] <JBandP> punsad: how can i rectify this problem?
[06:25] <punsad> JBandP: any idea about what module (i.e. driver) you need to use for your card?
[06:25] <reanjr> aisman: true... :)
[06:25] <aisman> just let it like that
[06:25] <ashnickel> reanjr: ok, so I type sudo chown ashnickel: and then the file name? so ashnickel/desktop/hplip?
[06:25] <zerokill88> ||drake|| any way do this command   sudo update-pciids
[06:26] <aisman> im using someones wireless (god knows who)
[06:26] <JBandP> punsaud: i know the kind of card it is. it's a trendnet TEW-423PI
[06:26] <punsad> JBandP: ubuntu is really good about being stocked with all kinds of wifi drivers... that's in face why I switched from debian
[06:26] <Barry> How do i uninstall my network card (eth1)?
[06:26] <reanjr> ashnickel:should be "ashnickel:ashnickel" then the filename
[06:26] <X3rus> n2diy: the Intellitrac X8 allows you to connect using GPRS. I need to do it this way, cause the vehicle can be in a different city so by GPRS I can send a command so it response with the Latidu and Longitud where it is
[06:26] <taxman> pumpkinhead: restore from backup :)
[06:26] <hexstar> Barry: open your computer and take it out
[06:26] <aisman> lawl
[06:26] <Barry> (its built in)
[06:26] <pumpkinhead> taxman: ugh :p
[06:26] <reanjr> ashnickel: sudo chown ashnickel:ashnickel ashnickel/desktop/hplip
[06:26] <hexstar> Barry: oh...
[06:26] <aisman> does this channel actually rests?
[06:26] <zerokill88> ||drake|| actually all i can do for now is give you this link.     http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=471794&highlight=PRO%2FWireless+4965AGN+driver
[06:27] <hexstar> Barry: I'd imagine the bios probably has a option to disable it
[06:27] <reanjr> ashnickel: or... sudo chown ashnickel:ashnickel ~/desktop/hplip ... if that doesn't work
[06:27] <JBandP> punsad:i looks really nice and offers a lot.  im just not used to the way it works :)
[06:27] <||drake||> zerokill88: alright, thanks man
[06:27] <JBandP> it*
[06:27] <Barry> ok, i'll do that
[06:27] <Barry> thx
[06:27] <||drake||> zerokill88: ill be back after reinstalling yet again
[06:27] <hexstar> Barry: np :)
[06:27] <||drake||> :/
[06:27] <KyleCardoza> Hello all. Does anyone in here know anything about compiling new GTK+ input methods? I've got one I knocked together today, and I'd like to test it, but there's no documentation on compiling the things.
[06:27] <n2diy> X3rus: Who/how are you sending GPS coordinates too? Findu?
[06:27] <jaySee> Ok so i am trying to move my usr dir form sda6 to sda9 i moved it over ok and i added this http://pastebin.ca/636726 to my fstab(see first line), it still does not see it at boot,Any ideas?
[06:27] <zerokill88> ||drake|| hah goodluck and write down that link
[06:27] <astro76> ashnickel, that would be sudo chown ashnickel:ashnickel ~/Desktop/hplip, Desktop is capitalized
[06:28] <dacomp> aisman: still no luck -- and even if i try to ping an IP address, it doesn't go through
[06:28] <ashnickel> astro76: ok, i'll try that, thanks
[06:28] <||drake||> zerokill88: i'm on the desktop right now, so all is well
[06:28] <aisman> hmm, are you firewalled?
[06:28] <punsad> JBandP: my quicked google search for your card suggests it uses the acx module
[06:28] <dacomp> aisman: nope, no firewall
[06:28] <zerokill88> ||drake|| oh ok then
[06:29] <JBandP> punsad:is module something specific to *nix?
[06:29] <aisman> hmm, stubborn thing... try restarting your system
[06:29] <punsad> JBandP: do: cd /lib/modules/; find . -name "*acx*"
[06:29] <aisman> that sometimes happens to me
[06:29] <X3rus> n2diy: This GPS works this way. For example if I send this message to it ($ST+GETPOSITION) it will send me back an answer with the exact position where it is. But this work by GPRS
[06:29] <aisman> i just restart and it starts working again
[06:29] <dacomp> aisman: i've restarted a few times
[06:29] <punsad> JBandP: windows uses "drivers"... linux uses modules
[06:29] <ryancr> anyone know of a "glade" irc room
[06:29] <||drake||> glade the deodorant?
[06:29] <oleksa> Maxdamantus I've gotten farther
[06:30] <malocite> Hi all, is someone here using the ATI 8.28.8 drivers?  The proprietary ones from ATI?  I have a real quickie question
[06:30] <Maxdamantus> How far?
[06:30] <ashnickel> reanjr: it didn't work, either way, whether capitalized or not   error:   ashnickel@dell:~$ sudo chown ashnickel:ashnickel/desktop/hplip-2.7.6
[06:30] <ashnickel> chown: missing operand after `ashnickel:ashnickel/desktop/hplip-2.7.6'
[06:30] <ashnickel> Try `chown --help' for more information.
[06:30] <JBandP> punsad:modules.  got it.  ok. my "find" yeilded many results.
[06:30] <reanjr> ashnickel: try running gksu nautilus
[06:30] <punsad> JBandP: you might also try: 'modprobe acx' to try to install the acx module
[06:30] <oleksa> Maxdamantus I needed to give grub-install the correct --root-directory, which I failed to do previously
[06:30] <n2diy> X3rus: Ok, so the GPS feeds you your postition, now what do you want to do with the data?
[06:30] <ashnickel> reanjr: where do i find that?
[06:30] <reanjr> ashnickel: once that is running, browse to the file , right-click and go to properties, then the permissions tab; should be able to change it from there
[06:30] <Maxdamantus> I like using grub better.
[06:30] <zaxor0> how do i see if my external hard drive is ntfs or fat ?
[06:30] <||drake||> i like eating grub
[06:30] <reanjr> ashnickel: hit Alt-F2 and type it in there
[06:30] <aisman> lawl
[06:31] <Maxdamantus> grub-install is just a shell script to wrap around grub.
[06:31] <||drake||> i wrap tortillas around my grub
[06:31] <oleksa> Maxdamantus System started booting from the sda, though it got stock on "unable to open initial console". I must've screwed something in /etc/fstab
[06:31] <JBandP> punsad: "modprobe:command not found"
[06:31] <taxman> zaxor0: if it is connected fdisk -l lists the filesystem types
[06:31] <punsad> JBandP: you might do a 'dmesg'  to see if there's any indication that the modprobe had an effect.
[06:31] <X3rus> n2diy:output it on a map, using MapServe. Right now I can capture the information, but what I need is how to send the information to the GPS using a web browser
[06:31] <osxdude|TX> does ATI + Beryl/Compiz + Ubuntu Feisty + IBM ThinkPad r40 = Happyness?
[06:31] <Maxdamantus> So it was able to boot GRUB?
[06:31] <reanjr> Whenever I run totem, my background changes... anyone have any ideas?
[06:31] <punsad> JBandP:??? strange... I thought modprobe was part of base-system
[06:31] <||drake||> no
[06:32] <dacomp> aisman: back to roaming mode, when i do a ping of an ip address, i get "destination host unreachable"
[06:32] <||drake||> osxdude|TX: no
[06:32] <oleksa> Maxdamantus Yes, it started booting my old kernel from sda
[06:32] <Maxdamantus> Ok.
[06:32] <osxdude|TX> then what does it equal?
[06:32] <aisman> you know what wireless network are you connected to?
[06:32] <punsad> JBandP: modprobe ... are you sure you typed it correctly?
[06:32] <Maxdamantus> oleksa, if you didn't modify your fstab after changing, it will do that.
[06:32] <||drake||> osxdude|TX: ATI + anything even remotely related to beryl/compiz = worse than the holocaust
[06:32] <JBandP> punsad: dmesg returned a bunch of iems
[06:32] <reanjr> osxdude|TX: fire and pain
[06:32] <dacomp> it's a public network
[06:33] <||drake||> osxdude|TX: minus all the death, of course
[06:33] <osxdude|TX> thanks loll
[06:33] <dacomp> for my neighborhood
[06:33] <zaxor0> i have a ntfs external hard drive and i have installed ntfs-config but i cannot write to it. what should I do?
[06:33] <dacomp> was working earlier today
[06:33] <punsad> JBandP: yes it will do that.. but the last few lines are the most recent messages
[06:33] <aisman> ah, did it gave you an ip?
[06:33] <n2diy> X3rus: Have you googled on wardriving? You might find info there. This is app specific, and you might have better luck that way?
[06:33] <dacomp> yeah
[06:33] <JBandP> punsaud:yes. i tried it a couple of times and it always says "bash:command not found
[06:33] <reanjr> zaxor0: google for ntfs-3g
[06:33] <dacomp> it did give me an ip
[06:33] <aisman> hmm... weird...
[06:33] <||drake||> osxdude|TX: most any laptop maker will have an nVidia option somewhere
[06:33] <aisman> i usually dont have so many problems with that...
[06:33] <punsad> JBandP: are you sure you didn't misspell modprobe?
[06:33] <osxdude|TX> !ntfs-3g|zaxor0
[06:33] <ubotu> zaxor0: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:34] <X3rus> n2diy: Thanks, I had been looking for a couple of days but still don't find positive results
[06:34] <punsad> JBandP: oh.. ok...
[06:34] <JBandP> punsad:dmesg results show nothing that indicate wireless
[06:34] <osxdude|TX> ||drake|| I understand
[06:34] <malocite> Hi all, is someone here using the ATI 8.28.8 drivers?  The proprietary ones from ATI?  I have a real quickie question
[06:34] <reanjr> JBandP: can you refresh my memory on what wireless card you have?
[06:34] <osxdude|TX> malocite: idk...neither can I check
[06:34] <||drake||> osxdude|TX: in all honesty, you may hit some random stroke of luck and have it work for you
[06:34] <||drake||> osxdude|TX: it has happened before
[06:34] <punsad> JBandP:
[06:35] <osxdude|TX> i would say so too
[06:35] <punsad> JBandP: oops..
[06:35] <||drake||> osxdude|TX: but the chances are minimal
[06:35] <osxdude|TX> i post on the forums if it works
[06:35] <n2diy> X3rus: Ok, I'm set up here with Xastir, which broadcast my postition on amateur radio, but not wifi, so I'm not sure what issue it is that you are facing?
[06:35] <zig> hi all, is there an option on the install CD of feisty to select the X resolution ? MY monitor only support low resolution so the screen is screwed up with the default resolution
[06:35] <malocite> osxdude|tx: I just wanted to know where the fireglcontrolpanel file is SUPPOSED to install to, it doesn't install properly on my end, so I have to put it there manually
[06:35] <JBandP> reanjr:trendnet TEW-423PI
[06:36] <oleksa> Maxdamantus How do I recreate /dev. I didn't copy it from the old drive and it seems that it didn't get recreated on boot
[06:36] <malocite> also, if anyone has solved the 8.28.8 screen brightness problem, that would help me greatly
[06:36] <n2diy> oleksa: touch /dev/XXXXX
[06:36] <Maxdamantus> oleksa, it should be generated on boot.
[06:36] <Maxdamantus> They're not physical files.
[06:37] <Jeeebus> anyone know the optimal settings for speeding up beryl?
[06:37] <Saaya> zig what resoliuton do you need?
[06:37] <NickGarvey> Jeeebus: probably not actually
[06:37] <Hannibal> disable pixmaps?
[06:37] <jmg> hey all my gdm displays a different resolution to my desktop
[06:37] <Maxdamantus> n2diy, touch opens the file, and writes null to it.
[06:37] <eboyjr> Can anyone PLEASE help me resize my partitions so my Windows (ntfs) partition is smaller and my Linux partition is bigger?
[06:37] <NickGarvey> the optimal settings would be ridiculous
[06:37] <zig> Saaya: something like 640x480 or 800x600
[06:37] <reanjr> JBandP: have you tried the zd1211-source package?
[06:37] <oleksa> Maxdamantus I can copy /dev from the live cd, can't I?
[06:37] <NickGarvey> require rewriting code etc..
[06:37] <Maxdamantus> oleksa, no.
[06:38] <Jeeebus> oktanouc, well, without rewriting code
[06:38] <eTiger14> hello all. I could use some help with feisty server and getting connected wirelessly. When I run lshw I get a *-network unclaimed for my AR5212 wireless card. Help??
[06:38] <Jeeebus> are there options i can enable/disable that would affect the performance?
[06:38] <Maxdamantus> oleksa, they're not files off a hard disk.
[06:38] <sport> is the synaptic package manager a product of RPM?
[06:38] <reanjr> sport:god no
[06:38] <oleksa> Maxdamantus I'm at loss as to why /dev/didn't get recreated on the first boot from the new disk
[06:38] <NickGarvey> sport: hell no
[06:38] <aisman> nop sport
[06:38] <X3rus> n2diy: This is the GPS I am working with http://www.systech.com.tw/english/products_x8.html
[06:38] <punsad> JPandB: i'm bewildered that you don't have modprobe installed... does that surprise anyone else?
[06:38] <malocite> this may seem like a stupid qustion, but I have seen reference to a fn key, is this supposed to be the function key on a laptop, or is this another name for something on a regular keyboard
[06:38] <JBandP> reanjr: no i have not.
[06:38] <n2diy> Maxdamantus: I thought it just created the file? If the program is looking to generate a lock file, the file has to exsist?
[06:38] <reanjr> punsad: yes it does
[06:38] <eTiger14> eboyjr: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[06:38] <sport> whats wrong with RPM?
[06:38] <JBandP> punsad: can iinstall it?
[06:38] <Music_Shuffle> !rpm | sport
[06:38] <ubotu> sport: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[06:38] <reanjr> sport: many, many things...
[06:38] <eboyjr> eTiger14: 7.04 Feisty Fawn
[06:39] <aisman> nop, there isnt
[06:39] <Maxdamantus> oleksa, try mount -o bind /dev /dev
[06:39] <Maxdamantus> Dunno if that'll work though.
[06:39] <punsad> dpkg -S modprobe indicates that modprobe is part of the module-init-tools package...
[06:39] <n2diy> test n2diy
[06:39] <eboyjr> eTiger14: I have QTParted but I can't resize them.
[06:39] <thinh> what good start after i read the ubuntu official book?
[06:39] <Maxdamantus> It doesn't need to be in the fstab
[06:39] <reanjr> sport: to be fair, I've heard it's gotten alot better than the last time I used it (circa 2000)
[06:39] <eTiger14> eboyjr: you are trying to setup a dual booting machine? or running a virtual environment for linux?
[06:39] <Jeeebus> anyone else know of any settings that i can enable/disable to speed up beryl?
[06:39] <sport> reanjr can you show me on the doll where it touched you?
[06:39] <punsad> JPandB: ohh!!  you must not be issuing these commands as root!!!
[06:40] <malocite> does ctrl alt f1 or f2 not change to a text mode in ubuntu?
[06:40] <reanjr> sport: here... and here... and... RPM told me not to say....
[06:40] <JBandP> punsad: dpkg -S modprobe returned a bunch of results
[06:40] <jmg> grrrr
[06:40] <Maxdamantus> Or maybe mount -o nodev,nosuid,noexec -t tmpfs shm /dev/shm
[06:40] <aisman> lawl... somebody needs some lesson on using sudo
[06:40] <punsad> JPandB: nope... maybe not... even as regular user... it works for me
[06:40] <punsad> JBandP: do this: 'apt-get install module-init-tools'
[06:40] <midori> shadow_mil ya on????
[06:40] <Music_Shuffle> malocite, takes you to an alternate tty, yeah.
[06:40] <aisman> its better just to use the synaptic
[06:40] <Shadow_mil> midori, yes?
[06:40] <midori> shadow_mil, helll
[06:40] <eboyjr> eTiger14: I am using Ubuntu right now and I am already have dual booting set up. When I _did_ set it up, I didn't give enough space to Ubuntu.
[06:41] <malocite> doesn't for me
[06:41] <aisman> lawl
[06:41] <midori> shadow_mil, im ocha man
[06:41] <Shadow_mil> oh
[06:41] <thinh> where is the log for all the website visited?
[06:41] <Maxdamantus> oleksa, or you could try udevd
[06:41] <aisman> i gave ubuntu 10gb out of a 60gb drive
[06:41] <reanjr> JBandP: try installing that package and the module-assistant package, you should then be able to use the m-a command to install the module
[06:41] <Shadow_mil> midori, LEAVE ME ALONE!
[06:41] <||drake||> sudo make me a sandwich
[06:41] <punsad> JBandP: I know it seems like this is all unrelated to your wifi problem... maybe it is... but it seems to me that you need to be able to install modules if you want to get periferals to work
[06:41] <Jeeebus> meh
[06:41] <aisman> sudo su kill windows :)
[06:41] <thinh> anyone have a good newbie guide?
[06:41] <malocite> I'm using one of those microsoft natural keyboards, I noticed alt f4 didnt work in windows too....
[06:41] <malocite> hmmm
[06:41] <JBandP> punsad:  i get someonthing that says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[06:41] <thinh> just finish ubuntu official book
[06:42] <||drake||> sudo killall people
[06:42] <aisman> thinh: go to ubuntuforums.org
[06:42] <midori> shadow_mil, honestly??
[06:42] <Jeeebus> sudo ran faster than my windows installation
[06:42] <punsad> JBandP: what does 'man modprobe' give
[06:42] <aisman> lawl
[06:42] <JBandP> punsad: im just grateful you're helping as much as you have. thank you
[06:42] <thinh> been there just dont know where to start
[06:42] <eTiger14> eboyjr: what are your partitions? is your linux on ext2?
[06:42] <||drake||> sudo make ubuntu work
[06:42] <Shadow_mil> midori, yes.  Your very rude.  And I am starting to get sick of you.
[06:42] <midori> aisman, lol
[06:42] <||drake||> :/
[06:42] <aisman> midori: :)
[06:42] <Jeeebus> damn slow ubuntu :/
[06:42] <X3rus> n2diy: does the GPS I send you is similar to the ones you work with?
[06:42] <JBandP> man modprobe returns a manual
[06:42] <Jeeebus> works great when nothing is running
[06:42] <eTiger14> malocite: does your keyboard have a FN lock key on the top right of it?
[06:42] <Shadow_mil> midori, try to give you a bit of help and you latch on to me
[06:43] <NickGarvey> JBandP: I wonder.. why that would happen.. odd..
[06:43] <punsad> JBandP: this strongly suggests that modprobe is installed
[06:43] <reanjr> ||drake||: they should make that an easter egg
[06:43] <||drake||> haha
[06:43] <NickGarvey> the manual command.. showing.. a manual..
[06:43] <midori> shadow_mil, wow.  that was a lie
[06:43] <eboyjr> eTiger14: Windows: ntfs 60GB........... Linux: ext3 15GB .... swap whatevre
[06:43] <JBandP> wait. oh man. what was the original command you wanted me to try?
[06:43] <||drake||> sudo modprobe -r life
[06:43] <n2diy> X3rus: what did you send me, I missed it?
[06:43] <punsad> 'modprobe'
[06:43] <X3rus> http://www.systech.com.tw/english/products_x8.html
[06:43] <thinh> i guess i start reading up on python since it seems to be the official language of ubuntu
[06:43] <malocite> etiger14: Oh my god
[06:43] <NickGarvey> thinh: I'd say C is heh
[06:43] <malocite> etiger14: I am such a retard..... how long has that been there??!
[06:43] <Jeeebus> also, why does every action i perform take up 100% of my cpu?
[06:43] <||drake||> id say java is
[06:43] <||drake||> :/
[06:43] <reanjr> thinh: how so?  I'm a fan of the language but haven't really noticed any focus on it in ubuntu
[06:43] <sport> im confused is beryl a window manager with gnome?
[06:43] <NickGarvey> thinh: considering most of the software you are running is written in C ;)
[06:44] <savetheWorld> wate not want not
[06:44] <JBandP> ok, i think i forgot the "e"  :(  sorry.  modprobe returns some things on usage etc etc
[06:44] <eTiger14> eboyjr: the only reliable way I know of is partition magic for windows
[06:44] <thinh> oh
[06:44] <Jeeebus> open new firefox windows? 100% cpu! alt tab to gedit? 100% cpu!
[06:44] <NickGarvey> eh python is getting pretty popular tohugh
[06:44] <reanjr> Jeeebus:so that you get maximum performance out of the command
[06:44] <NickGarvey> and rightly so
[06:44] <eTiger14> malocite: lol yeah those keyboards are stupid
[06:44] <punsad> JBandP: okay.. try 'modprobe acx'
[06:44] <thinh> i read it says u can almost write anything in python the whole OS
[06:44] <bruenig> thinh, I wouldn't recommend that, if you want to write little gui front ends for tasks that most people do on their own anyways like ubuntu does, then go ahead, otherwise, I would choose something else
[06:44] <midori> shadow_mil, i asked for help and said thanks million thanks. and you weren't even able to do anything.  thanks for your rudeness, and wasting my time.  im glad to know to i meet a comple ***hole.
[06:44] <||drake||> try 'modprobe your face'
[06:44] <NickGarvey> you can't write an OS in python
[06:44] <malocite> now if only I could figure out how to fix my screen brightness with this new ati driver
[06:44] <aisman> lawl
[06:44] <thinh> and python comes default and not c
[06:44] <raf256> which linux is cool for USB?
[06:44] <lufis> I compiled my own vanilla kernel from kernel.org using the traditional make, make install. However, the boot image is not in my boot directory even after running make install. What's going on?
[06:45] <eTiger14> malocite: laptop?
[06:45] <Jeeebus> well, kinda sucks when i set 1 program to do something and everything else is running at 5% normal speed
[06:45] <reanjr> NickGarvey:But that's true of most languages
[06:45] <eboyjr> eTiger14: It costs money so i don't know. Thanks for your help. I wish EVERY software was free and open-source
[06:45] <bruenig> thinh, sudo apt-get install gcc
[06:45] <thinh> so what a good start guys
[06:45] <aisman> raf256: try Damn Small Linux
[06:45] <vexati0n> when i change my mouse cursor theme, it only effects firefox :| any idea why?
[06:45] <punsad> raf256: linux supports usb fairly well since 2.4 kernel
[06:45] <||drake||> on a serious note: every time i boot into ubuntu, i have to type in 'modprobe piix' then 'exit'
[06:45] <thinh> shell scripting?
[06:45] <Jeeebus> i feel like im not on a comp with 1.5gigs of ram
[06:45] <raf256> I prefer a 2.6 one is there one?  how to install it to USB?
[06:45] <||drake||> how can i make it do that automatically?
[06:45] <n2diy> lufis: try asking in #ubuntu-kernel?
[06:45] <JBandP> punsad: it says FATAL:Error inserting acx[/lib/modules/1.6.20-16-server/kernal/ubunutu/wireless/acx/acx.ko): Operation not permitted
[06:45] <malocite> etiger14: No
[06:45] <oleksa> Maxdamantus I found copying linux to a new drive how-to that said to copy /dev and only exclude /dev/pts/*
[06:45] <aisman> punsad: he meant to install to usb
[06:45] <lufis> n2diy: thanks
[06:45] <aisman> raf256: try Damn Small Linux
[06:45] <NickGarvey> lufis: nono I can help
[06:45] <reanjr> thinh: shell scripting is awesome
[06:45] <sport> bruenig is beryl a window manager for gnome or is it an addon?
[06:45] <punsad> JBandP: are you doing this as 'root' or sudo?
[06:45] <||drake||> on a serious note: every time i boot into ubuntu, i have to type in 'modprobe piix' then 'exit'... how can i make it do that automatically?
[06:46] <malocite> etiger14: the 8.28.8 drivers cause the brightness and contrast to go for a crap
[06:46] <eTiger14> malocite: and changing the controls on your monitor itself doesn't work?
[06:46] <JBandP> root i think/ let me try sudo?
[06:46] <lufis> NickGarvey: aw :)
[06:46] <thinh> yeah should i start reading up on that?
[06:46] <NickGarvey> lufis: you will find the kernel in /path/to/source/arch/i386/boot/bzImage
[06:46] <Maxdamantus> oleksa, you can't copy /dev
[06:46] <oleksa> Maxdamantus So, I went ahead and copied /dev/* from the live cd to the hd and the system boot proceeded. It's not done, yet, doing a fsck, but it looks good
[06:46] <thinh> i done some shell scripting and its pretty fun
[06:46] <NickGarvey> lufis: copy that file to /boot
[06:46] <Maxdamantus> Some files are infinite.
[06:46] <midori> shadow_mil, your birthday today eh?  what are you 12?  (i know low blow, but hey, one good favor desrives another)
[06:46] <JBandP> punsaud: sudo modprobe acx returned back to the prompt.
[06:46] <reanjr> thinh: it really depends on what you are wanting to do.  If you are automating tasks, there isn't much better
[06:46] <Maxdamantus> /dev/urandom and others output forever.
[06:46] <Krumar> hey, i tried out a different distro and it messed up my grub, i'm trying to get back to what i had originally, right now i'm going through two boot loaders, i have a /boot partition and a / partition, dumb question, but where do i want to recover grub too?
[06:46] <bruenig> sport, beryl is a window manager period, it has nothing to do with DE
[06:46] <oleksa> Maxdamantus You could be correct, but it worked nevertheless.
[06:47] <NickGarvey> Krumar: the command you want is.. let me think
[06:47] <lufis> NickGarvey: and thats the only file necessary?
[06:47] <zerokill88> thinh do you have anything you want to accomplish from programming in particular?
[06:47] <malocite> etiger14: Sure, makes it a little darker, but thats it,
[06:47] <punsad> JBandP: now do 'cat /proc/net/wireless' to see if we did anything useful
[06:47] <NickGarvey> lufis: that is your kernel :)
[06:47] <Maxdamantus> Try reading from the new /dev/urandom
[06:47] <thinh> the problem is i dont know what to automated
[06:47] <thinh> i just want to learn
[06:47] <punsad> JBandP: are there any line items?
[06:47] <thinh> trying to get something to focus on
[06:47] <aisman> lawl, try writing to /dev/null :)
[06:47] <oleksa> Maxdamantus I'm still waiting for the fsck to finish
[06:47] <bruenig> thinh, just learn bash scripting, it is pretty easy and useful
[06:47] <JBandP> punsad: no. same as before :\
[06:47] <thinh> i have to much time now lol
[06:47] <NickGarvey> Krumar: "grub-install /dev/sda", assuming you are booted into ubuntu
[06:47] <oleksa> Maxdamantus New drive is a 320Gb, might take a few minutes.
[06:48] <punsad> JBandP: what are the last few lines displayed when you do 'dmesg'
[06:48] <NickGarvey> Krumar: erm, toss in a sudo
[06:48] <thinh> i used to play wow so now i dont and i have so much time lol
[06:48] <reanjr> thinh:if you use the commandline alot, try automating all those niggling things that take you too long to type or a few minutes to run multiple commands and go from there
[06:48] <Maxdamantus> oleksa, and it's one partition?
[06:48] <aisman> sudo get me a coke :)
[06:48] <Shadow_mil> midori, exactly my point, and no, I am 19
[06:48] <ashnickel> reanjr: i have tried all things, and the gknu nautilus doesn't even show me the file
[06:48] <||drake||> sudo buy me some cocaine
[06:48] <||drake||> sudo freebase
[06:48] <lufis> NickGarvey: thats the only file that needs to be moved?
[06:48] <sport> bruenig so when i installed beryl to ubuntu ... i changed my window manager?
[06:48] <aisman> lawl
[06:48] <reanjr> ashnickel: how do you know it is there?
[06:48] <Krumar> NickGarvey, i am in ubuntu right now, so all i need to do is sudo grub-install /dev/sda1 to get my grub back in order?
[06:48] <ashnickel> it is on my ashnickel desktop
[06:48] <thinh> the thing is i dont do to many command line
[06:48] <ashnickel> i see it
[06:48] <reanjr> ashnickel: is it on your desktop?
[06:48] <NickGarvey> lufis: yeah, just cp it to /boot, but give it a better name heh, such as vmlinuz-'version'
[06:48] <JBandP> punsaud: acx :loaded combine pci/usb driver, firmware_ver=default
[06:49] <Krumar> NickGarvey, i'm not on a live disk, i made it back to the install on the hdd
[06:49] <||drake||> you would think that ubuntu would install faster on a 7200RPM HD with a 48x CD drive
[06:49] <NickGarvey> Krumar: drop the 1, just make it "/dev/sda"
[06:49] <bruenig> sport, no, you have a new window manager installed, you get to choose which window manager you use
[06:49] <||drake||> but no, it still takes like half an hour
[06:49] <NickGarvey> Krumar: assuming that your menu.lst and such is all set up right
[06:49] <Krumar> NickGarvey, thank you very much
[06:49] <oleksa> Maxdamantus Yes, it is. I grew tired of juggling files on multiple partitions and just made one ext3 partition.
[06:49] <lufis> NickGarvey: ok thanks :)
[06:49] <reanjr> ashnickel: try the gksu nautilus thing and navigate to File System/home/ashnickel/Desktop
[06:49] <JBandP> punsad:acx:compiled to use 32 bit i/o access. i/otimging issues might occure
[06:49] <punsad> JBandP: try this: 'lspci | grep acx'
[06:49] <aisman> lawl at oleksa
[06:49] <thinh> oh yeah how do you make beryl default upon bootup?
[06:49] <ashnickel> reanjr: ok, let me try that
[06:49] <reanjr> thinh: I think if you use GNOME and have it running when you end your session it automatically does
[06:49] <JBandP> punsad: returned to next line
[06:50] <JBandP> cat /proc/net/wireless still returns an empty table
[06:50] <thinh> i try it
[06:50] <sport> bruenig: ubuntu defaults with gnome right? and if i set beryl to start on startup it doesnt open gnome?
[06:50] <bruenig> sport, gnome is a collection of programs
[06:50] <thinh> it just enabled desktop effects but doenst auto start when i reboot the machine
[06:50] <oleksa> Maxdamantus I do have my swap on the second hd for better performance and an external 500Gb hdd that bacula backups to every night
[06:50] <bruenig> sport, each of which can be run by themselves
[06:51] <sport> bruenig: i keep forgetting gnome isn't a windows manager..
[06:51] <thinh> anyone fool with virtualbox?
[06:51] <ashnickel> reanjr: thank you. that unlocked it for me
[06:51] <||drake||> sport ?
[06:51] <midori> thinh, yes
[06:51] <reanjr> ashnickel: no problem
[06:51] <thinh> max size for a file is 4gb?
[06:51] <midori> thinh, it's fun
[06:51] <sport> ||drake|| ?
[06:51] <thinh> yeah i love it
[06:51] <||drake||> sport nvm
[06:51] <eTiger14> thinh: yeah I tried it and thought it wasn't very good
[06:52] <squee> How do I get a file from my phone through bluetooth?  i can send it files but I need to grab a photo off of it.
[06:52] <reanjr> thinh: depends on your filesystem
[06:52] <freebooter> What terminal command is it to keep the compiz-fusion settings on startup?
[06:52] <punsad> JPandB: there are some very good instructions in http://dev.tufuncion.com/xgl-nvidia-ubuntu-apt-get
[06:52] <thinh> i am a ms access devoloper
[06:52] <||drake||> squee: use windows :X
[06:52] <ubuntu> hola
[06:52] <bruenig> thinh, can you really use the word developer
[06:52] <thinh> so i use to do my coding
[06:52] <||drake||> wait... ubuntu just spoke
[06:52] <reanjr> thinh: is rdesktop an option?
[06:52] <squee> drake: I just wiped it off of my computer yesterday... I'm not going back for it
[06:52] <ubuntu> como la estan pasando?
[06:53] <reanjr> thinh: much easier than virtual machines
[06:53] <xtknight> !es | ubuntu
[06:53] <Krumar_> NickGarvey, thank you very much, i just rebooted and everything is in order, your a lifesaver
[06:53] <ubotu> ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:53] <||drake||> squee: i cant help ye then. i'd try making a connection to your comp from your phone, and then see if it shows up as a device
[06:53] <n2diy> ! es | ubuntu
[06:53] <thinh> i try vmware and it was bad compare virtualbox
[06:53] <punsad> JPandB: in that link... they descirbe a method of finding ... by trial and error.. which version of the acx module will work for you... what's happening is that the default version may not be compatible with your card.  follow the instruction and see if that works
[06:53] <NickGarvey> Krumar_: :) good to hear
[06:53] <thinh> virtual box run pretty good on my machine
[06:53] <sport> bruenig: where the WM selector ?
[06:53] <punsad> JPandB: gotta go... good luck..
[06:53] <lufis> NickGarvey: another question ;) in grub, i've made a new entry using the new vmlinux file, but it also wants an initrd image, which i don't have
[06:53] <||drake||> ubuntu: rcv
[06:53] <ubuntu> y donde los hayo?
[06:53] <thinh> it actually run faster because i have 64bit linux
[06:53] <Geminias> what is the network kernel module?
[06:53] <Geminias> called?
[06:54] <JBandP> punsaud: thanks so uch for all the assistnace
[06:54] <thinh> if install it native on my machine it would have been slower
[06:54] <fiXXXerMet> Is there a way of changing from gnome to fluxbox without logging out?
[06:54] <NickGarvey> lufis: ah see this is where.. ubuntu loses me, let me do like 5 min of research
[06:54] <||drake||> ubuntu: por favor, entre "/join #ubuntu-es"
[06:54] <reanjr> thinh: that's funny
[06:54] <riotkittie> fiXXXerMet:  no. you have to log out to change sessions, afaik.
[06:54] <||drake||> ubuntu: sin los marques, claramente
[06:54] <oleksa> Maxdamantus The system is up and running. Thank you so much for your help!!!
[06:54] <JBandP> can anyone point me to a good tutorial or instructions on how to share a folder in ununtu so i can access it from windows/osx? nothing is working?
[06:54] <bruenig> fiXXXerMet, yes, what are you defining as "gnome"
[06:54] <fiXXXerMet> Um, session?  Windows manager?
[06:55] <bruenig> fiXXXerMet, like is the panel gnome?
[06:55] <thinh> with linux it uses 64bit with windows xp it is only 32bit so i think that why it is faster
[06:55] <fiXXXerMet> Yes
[06:55] <fiXXXerMet> I think?
[06:55] <bruenig> fiXXXerMet, gnome is a bunch of different programs
[06:55] <NickGarvey> lufis: I'm pretty sure you don't need one, try it without that line and tell me what happens, if it fails then just boot the kernel you are using now and we can try some more things
[06:55] <fiXXXerMet> I mean the session.  When I log in, I can pick gnome or fluxbox.
[06:55] <lufis> NickGarvey: alrighty, thanks again
[06:55] <thinh> what are some of the task that you can do with command line?
[06:55] <||drake||> ubuntu: esta bien ahora? las personas alli no les gustan las otras lenguas, porque este seccion es solamente para ingles... hay menos "clutter" asi
[06:56] <thinh> i mean for automation purposes?
[06:56] <||drake||> i guess he didnt get it
[06:56] <||drake||> :/
[06:56] <bruenig> fiXXXerMet, you have metacity gnome-panel gnome-desktop and the list  goes on, what you would need to do is kill all of those processes and then run fluxbox. I have written a script to do this on my computer but just to switch from xfce with the built in wm and xfce with beryl, but the same process could be replicated for what you are talking about
[06:56] <||drake||> or maybe he missed my last sentence
[06:56] <reanjr> thinh: I personally have a script that (for example) dereference symlinks, put them on a CVS server and sync them out to a live server for web development
[06:56] <||drake||> and thought i just told him that ubuntu was only for english speakers
[06:56] <||drake||> :/ :/
[06:56] <eTiger14> is anyone using feisty and an atheros ar5212 wireless card?
[06:57] <fiXXXerMet> bruenig: Happen to have the script handy?
[06:57] <thinh> oh that to advance for me man dont know what symlinks is i know what cvs is
[06:57] <Geminias> what's the networking kernel module called?
[06:57] <reanjr> thinh: I also have some that perform some routine data processing stuff for files that I get sent in one format but have to be in another
[06:57] <bruenig> fiXXXerMet, it would be of no use to you because it just kills xfwm4 (xfces window manager) and runs beryl and emerald or does the opposite of that depending on what is running at the time of execution
[06:57] <thinh> i c
[06:57] <fiXXXerMet> I see
[06:58] <Maxdamantus> oleksa, np.
[06:58] <thinh> i cant think of any process on top off my mind
[06:58] <bruenig> fiXXXerMet, you would need to kill all the gnome processes you don't want and then run fluxbox
[06:58] <reanjr> thinh, I have one that searches for all files that contain a bit of text and creates a directory of links to them so that I can make sweeping changes across alot of files
[06:58] <Maxdamantus> So you copied /dev/* to the hard drive?
[06:58] <thinh> at  work i write vb script for updating the client with new version
[06:58] <fiXXXerMet> Since I don't know all of the required programs, I'll just log out for now.  Thank you though for your help.
[06:59] <bruenig> fiXXXerMet, just do ps -A and start playing around until you get what you want
[06:59] <thinh> but that on windows side
[06:59] <thinh> i uses hta and vbscript
[06:59] <thinh> i dont know much about linux
[07:00] <bruenig> fiXXXerMet, I know some people who will run fluxbox with a panel or do a bunch of mixing and matching, it is a tad harder on ubuntu because of their staunch "let's hide everything so as not to confuse" policy but it can still be done
[07:00] <oleksa> Maxdamantus yes
[07:00] <reanjr> thinh: shell scripting is alot more powerful in some ways than those, but alot less in other ways.  It's designed for making scripts very short and to the point
[07:00] <thinh> just finally fully switch to linux since i got virtual box works the way i want
[07:00] <||drake||> someone wanna teach me the ways of shell scripting
[07:00] <bruenig> shell scripts don't need to be short, I have one that is 500 lines long
[07:00] <||drake||> and why the hell i would ever want to use it?
[07:00] <thinh> i c
[07:00] <oleksa> Maxdamantus and then it seems that on the next boot udev picked it up and worked fine.
[07:00] <thinh> hmm
[07:00] <NickGarvey> ||drake||: yes, in fact, there is this cool thing that will teach you, I have a special name for it
[07:00] <NickGarvey> ||drake||: google.com
[07:00] <Maxdamantus> Ok.
[07:01] <jetscreamer> /join #bash ||drake||
[07:01] <reanjr> ||drake||: come up with something you want to use it for and I can help you figure out how to do it
[07:01] <||drake||> NickGarvey: thanks, man!
[07:01] <thinh> u know where the file for the visited website is store
[07:01] <thinh> the log file
[07:01] <NickGarvey> no problem
[07:01] <reanjr> bruenig: true, but it probably would have been 3000 lines in another language
[07:01] <||drake||> reanjr: im just wondering what some typical things you use it for are
[07:01] <||drake||> reanjr: and im also wondering why i just butchered the english language
[07:01] <thinh> i think i might want to write a script to see if anyone at home visited some dirty site lol
[07:02] <bruenig> reanjr, oh I misunderstood, i thought you mean short as in, it is only viable for really short tasks, not short as in shorter than doing same task in other languages, my fault
[07:02] <bruenig> thinh, create different firefox profiles, that is what I do
[07:02] <thinh> what you mean
[07:02] <NickGarvey> just clear your history.. or use stealther
[07:02] <bruenig> thinh, the one in the menus opens a firefox profile called others and then the one I launch from keyboard shortcut opens mine
[07:02] <reanjr> ||drake||: I do web work, so (for instance), if someone needs all the copyright notices on the site updated from 2006 to 2007, I can do that, push it to our cvs server and make it live in a script
[07:02] <Maxdamantus> ||drake||, first thing that comes to mind are configure scripts.
[07:03] <||drake||> alright, i gotta roll
[07:03] <Maxdamantus> Look at /usr/bin
[07:03] <||drake||> time to see if i can get my intel 4965 working
[07:03] <eboyjr> How do I umount? : "/dev/sda1" "/windows"
[07:03] <thinh> i thinking of writing a script that parse a log file and look for the word sex and store the site
[07:03] <||drake||> peace, bois
[07:03] <||drake||> and maybe like
[07:03] <||drake||> one girl
[07:03] <Maxdamantus> Files beginning with #!/bin/bash are shell scripts.
[07:03] <Maxdamantus> Or /bin/sh
[07:03] <oleksa> Is there a limit on swap partition size?
[07:03] <bruenig> or /bin/zsh
[07:04] <eTiger14> is anyone using an atheros ar5212 based wireless card on feisty?
[07:04] <bruenig> or /bin/csh
[07:04] <bruenig> or /bin/tcsh
[07:04] <bruenig> or /bin/ksh
[07:04] <thinh> just want to give me to start working on
[07:04] <xtknight> oleksa, not that i know of.  how big are we talking?
[07:04] <reanjr> thinh: grep -i sex /var/log/whatever >> ~/pornsites
[07:04] <Maxdamantus> bruenig, generally shell scripts have /bin/bash, as most systems have that.
[07:04] <Maxdamantus> Or /bin/sh
[07:04] <bruenig> Maxdamantus, bash is just a particular shell
[07:04] <calc> most systems have /bin/sh
[07:04] <xtknight> eboyjr, sudo umount /dev/sda1
[07:04] <thinh> that wasnt a hard one to write lol
[07:04] <Maxdamantus> bruenig, I know.
[07:04] <reanjr> thinh: that's what makes it great
[07:04] <elnimr> hi
[07:04] <calc> most unix systems don't have bash, just linux ones
[07:04] <xtknight> eboyjr, umount /windows works too
[07:04] <oleksa> xtknight It looks like it's 4393768 bytes i.e. 4.39 Gb right now
[07:05] <elnimr> how can i know if opengl is working probably
[07:05] <eboyjr> xtknight: How do I mount it again>
[07:05] <xtknight> oleksa, i have 8 gig swap partitions
[07:05] <Maxdamantus> oleksa, incorrect.
[07:05] <reanjr> calc: all ubuntu systems do :)
[07:05] <thinh> i know i wanted something more challange
[07:05] <xtknight> oleksa, never had trouble
[07:05] <calc> reanjr: yea
[07:05] <xtknight> eboyjr, same thing, except 'mount' not umount
[07:05] <oleksa> Maxdamantus GiB then?
[07:05] <eboyjr> thanks
[07:05] <oleksa> xtknight Thanks
[07:05] <thinh> something that might actually need a scripting
[07:05] <Maxdamantus> 4.39 gigabits.
[07:05] <Maxdamantus> Yes.
[07:05] <bruenig> thinh, write a script that will count from 1 to 10
[07:05] <Maxdamantus> No.
[07:06] <Maxdamantus> That's 4.39MiB
[07:06] <thinh> done it lol
[07:06] <bruenig> thinh, in bash
[07:06] <eboyjr> xtknight: Thanks a million!
[07:06] <elnimr> how can i know if opengl is working probably
[07:06] <reanjr> bruenig, that's not really a script: seq 1 10
[07:06] <bruenig> reanjr, not if you tell him that
[07:06] <NickGarvey> elnimr: run a program that uses opengl?
[07:06] <thinh> lol
[07:06] <eTiger14> can anyone help me get my wireless card working in feisty server?
[07:06] <thinh> i am not a kid
[07:06] <bruenig> reanjr, but if he uses some for or while and some expr
[07:07] <elnimr> NIckFarvey: that is what i am trying to do
[07:07] <thinh> i done some with args
[07:07] <elnimr> i am trying to run a game
[07:07] <elnimr> but it keeps loading forever
[07:07] <reanjr> bruenig: true, but I think part of learning shell scripting is knowing when to use something else ;)
[07:07] <elnimr> so i thought something is wrong with openg
[07:07] <elnimr> l
[07:07] <bruenig> thinh, write a script that will download youtube videos
[07:07] <IcemanV9> elnimr: run xscreensaver (it's an opengl app)
[07:08] <reanjr> bruenig: that's good, you could write something that looks for all youtube videos with a particular search term and downloads them all, converts them to mpg and stores it on a media server hooked to your TV.
[07:08] <reanjr> bruenig: by "you", I mean "one"
[07:08] <bruenig> reanjr, what a waste
[07:08] <n2diy> reanjr: that should keep him busy for a while?
[07:08] <thinh> lol
[07:08] <reanjr> bruenig: it would probably clock in at under 20 lines if done right
[07:08] <thinh> good idea but i need some in between
[07:09] <bruenig> just a script that you can feed a youtube url and have it download the flv
[07:09] <bruenig> that is simple and useful
[07:09] <xtknight> are you nuts?  that's probably going to be like 2000 lines
[07:09] <bruenig> I could clock it in 2 lines
[07:09] <bruenig> ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ;
[07:09] <reanjr> xtknight: not with the right programs installed
[07:09] <xtknight> well then you could nuke the earth out of orbit with one command too
[07:09] <chrisLAbeard> what is the difference between simple medium and advanced for the monitor characteristics ?
[07:09] <bruenig> reanjr, you mean using other youtube scripts, that doesn't count though
[07:09] <xtknight> earth.sh --nuke-from-orbit
[07:09] <reanjr> xtknight: off the top of my head, wget, grep, for-loop, converter app, scp
[07:10] <reanjr> bruenig, right
[07:10] <xtknight> reanjr, actually i needed something like that the other day.. so if you dont mind... :D
[07:10] <eugman> Is there a way to see if a port, specifically 7993, is open?
[07:10] <xtknight> eugman, netstat -pa
[07:10] <NickGarvey> eugman: nmap?
[07:10] <NickGarvey> eugman: his/her way is better
[07:10] <reanjr> xtknight, if you can find the app that does the conversion (I know there's one out there, just don't know what it's called) ;)
[07:10] <xtknight> nmap if it's remote
[07:10] <bruenig> here is mine I wrote a while back, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31621/
[07:10] <xtknight> reanjr, i dont need it converted, just need the .flv,  thats good enough
[07:11] <xtknight> reanjr, there's already a common youtube dl script out there that works great but it doesnt search.  it only lets you enter one video
[07:11] <thinh> i guess i get some shell scripting ebooks any recommendations?
[07:11] <xtknight> mencoder will do conversion, anyway
[07:11] <bruenig> there is a youtube dl script?
[07:11] <xtknight> i think you will be famous if you pull it off :)
[07:12] <xtknight> ya single URL at a time.  got it on softpedia
[07:12] <task0> hello all, i need some help with this: on a really old pc using versions newer than 6.10, my mouse does not work... how can i fix this withouit a mouse?!?!
[07:12] <maria22> can someone help me with something that appears to be a bug, pleaseeee
[07:12] <bruenig> does it automatically name it the same name as the title?
[07:12] <reanjr> xtknight: I guess what you need then is an extractor app that pulls the flv out of the URL.  Sorry I'm not really up on flash video.
[07:12] <reanjr> xtknight: notURL... the object tag thing
[07:13] <xtknight> bruenig, yup you can have it do that.  but its original "friendly naming" system was silly, it would append the ID after the friendly name.  so i modified the script and removed the ugly id from the friendly name, and it works great
[07:13] <n2diy> ! ask | maria22
[07:13] <ubotu> maria22: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:13] <eugman> If I post my ip can one of you see if a specific port is visible from your computer? It should be since it's open but I have been having trouble.
[07:13] <task0> no one?! any help, would be nice
[07:13] <xtknight> reanjr, well mainly just something to dump urls of search results for a term on youtube
[07:13] <bruenig> xtknight, hmm, so my script was a complete waste of time
[07:13] <reanjr> xtknight: oh just saw your comment about the popular dl app...
[07:13] <b0xii_> eugman: shoot
[07:13] <Jamesinator> Help! I've accidentally screwed up permissions on a Ubuntu box of mine, and now "sudo" and just about everything in /usr doesn't work now!
[07:13] <reanjr> xtknight: lemme think for a sec
[07:14] <n2diy> eugman: go to www.grc.com, and run sheilds up, it will tell you what you want to know.
[07:14] <xtknight> http://www.arrakis.es/~rggi3/youtube-dl/youtube-dl
[07:14] <xtknight> i think that's it
[07:14] <xtknight> the single url one
[07:14] <maria22> ok, i got all the passwords (root and admin) but i cant login on ubuntu normal and i can on ubuntu recovery
[07:14] <bruenig> reanjr, getting the flv once you have the source of the youtube page is fairly easy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31621/ , just follow the videoid stuff
[07:15] <task0> i need some help with this: on a really old pc using versions newer than 6.10, my mouse does not work... how can i fix this withouit a mouse?!?!
[07:15] <n2diy> maria22: you created a root user?
[07:15] <maria22> no
[07:15] <reanjr> I'm looking at their search page HTML right now
[07:15] <oleksa> Best wishes to all
[07:15] <n2diy> maria22: good, just log in as yourself, and use sudo to do root stuff.
[07:16] <xtknight> one time i wanted to download george carlin videos, so i opened up like 20 terminals and manually did youtube-dl on every single url that came up.  frustrating to say the least
[07:16] <xtknight> but it was mutlithreaded :)
[07:16] <xtknight> besides, it used full network capacity too
[07:16] <Jamesinator> Help! I've accidentally screwed up permissions on a Ubuntu box of mine, and now "sudo" and just about everything in /usr doesn't work now!
[07:17] <mabo> hello any body can tell me, wht p2p can i use with ubuntu????
 thats the problem, i cant login because everytime i try to, theres a message that says authentification failed
[07:17] <xtknight> Jamesinator, reinstall
[07:17] <xtknight> Jamesinator, :P
[07:17] <xtknight> Jamesinator, im not really joking, either
[07:17] <aisman> mabo: you can use gnutella or limewire
[07:17] <Jamesinator> xtknight: If you already know that is a wholly unacceptable solution, don't even bother suggesting it
[07:17] <mabo> hoo ok
[07:17] <mabo> tks
[07:17] <aisman> you can download gnutella with the Synaptic manager
[07:17] <task0> does any one know for any reason that versions newer than 6.10, my mouse will NOT work?!?!?!? please HELP!
[07:17] <xtknight> Jamesinator, so the state your system is in now is more acceptable?
 but those passwords work on ubuntu recoveru
[07:17] <n2diy> maria22: ok, make sure you aren't using caps etc... Logins are case sensitive.
[07:17] <Jamesinator> xtknight: Absolutely
[07:17] <eugman> n2diy, what does stealth status mean?
[07:18] <xtknight> Jamesinator, well fortunately all your data is proabbly in /home, right?
 :\ im not that silly ok
[07:18] <n2diy> eugman: I don't know? Why do you ask?
[07:18] <eTiger14> help help anyone? I need help getting my wireless card to work from a command line in feisty
[07:18] <mabo> hoo ok tks a lot
[07:18] <chrisLAbeard> so on my computer something happened to the video driver so i edited the xorg and it worked with the vesa but whenever i choose its actual driver it wont work
[07:18] <Jamesinator> xtknight: No, it's considerably more complex than that, but if you're not going to contribute anything useful other than "blow out everything and reinstall", please just stop now.
[07:18] <venish> can someone help me put on Avant Manager???
[07:18] <n2diy> maria22: we all do silly stuff, at times. :)
[07:19] <xtknight> Jamesinator, okay that is fine, if you don't want help it's not my loss
[07:19] <Oscurochu> I accidentally deleted the "system tray" thing. how do i restore it? I tried right clicking the panel, and clicking "add to panel", and its not in the list...
[07:19] <uavstrebe> anyone know how to restore the default installation performance of compiz-fusion on feisty?
[07:19] <Falstius> Jamesinator: what was the problem?  I missed it.
[07:19] <venish> can someone help me put on Avant Manager???
[07:19] <maria22> ive been tryin to login the last 12 hrs, believe me when i said i checked everything to be correct
[07:19] <eugman> n2diy, oh actually it says it here, It was the result of the shields up test you suggested
[07:20] <Jamesinator> Falstius: I've accidentally screwed up permissions on a Ubuntu box of mine, and now just about everything is failing. I'm trying to figure out the correct octal permissions and owner of the system folders outside of /home
[07:20] <n2diy> eugman: That is good, you aren't seen be the crackers.
[07:20] <eugman> If my port is open but not visible to the internet is there anything that could be causing that besides my router?
[07:20] <eugman> n2diy, right but for this cause I want it visible.
[07:20] <n2diy> eugman: Your firewall.
[07:20] <venish> can someone help me put on Avant Manager?
[07:20] <venish> can someone help me put on Avant Manager?
[07:21] <Jamesinator> Falstius: I also get a "permission denied" error on /etc/sudoers when I try to use sudo, but attempting to modify the permissions on it will just make sudo die with an error stating it should have different permissions -- 440 or something. I'm currently running as root trying to put everything aright, since nothing in standard users works.
[07:21] <eugman> n2diy, well whatever firewall I have is the default for ubuntu, any idea how to unhide a specific port?
[07:21] <maria22> can i access to ubuntu gui from ubuntu recovery?
[07:21] <n2diy> eugman: You'll need to learn how to play with iptables, I'd suggest loading Firestarter, and play with it that way.
[07:21] <Falstius> Jamesinator: I had a similar problem, caused by a botched freevo update.  I got the system working again by fixing permissions (I have another computer to compare to), but it still wasn't 100%, so I took the excuse to do a fresh feisty install (was edgy).
[07:22] <Falstius> Jamesinator: sudoers has to be chmod 440 sudoers
[07:22] <Jamesinator> Falstius: When sudoers is chmodded to 440 I get permission denied errors on trying to use it
[07:22] <jetscreamer> correct
[07:22] <venish> can someone help me put on Avant Manager?
[07:22] <venish> can someone help me put on Avant Manager?
[07:22] <jetscreamer> change it back
[07:22] <venish> can someone help me put on Avant Manager?
[07:22] <venish> can someone help me put on Avant Manager?
[07:23] <jetscreamer> no
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[07:23] <Jamesinator> !ops | venish
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[07:23] <reanjr> xtknight: just an update, I think I've almost got it
[07:23] <Falstius> Jamesinator: what is the exact error?
[07:23] <xtknight> reanjr, cool
[07:23] <Jamesinator> Falstius: With the amount of critical data on this machine, I'm worried that a complete install will be too fragile. Right now I'm trying to get the permissions and owners correct so that I can at least use the stuff in /usr again on a normal user
[07:23] <bruenig> xtknight, here is a proof of concept: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31622/ (just run ./script "search term")
[07:23] <jetscreamer> change it back
[07:23] <Jamesinator> Falstius: For sudo? I'll check
[07:24] <w30> I am having no luck getting suspend to work for the Ctl>Alt>F(n) terminals on my laptop when I have the Nvidia binary 3d  driver enabled. Any one have any tips?
[07:24] <jetscreamer> you'll need to su
[07:24] <Jamesinator> Falstius: sudo: can't open /etc/sudoers: Permission denied (as root)
[07:24] <maria22> cmon guys, theres something i can do. I have all te passwords but somehow im unable to login on ubuntu normal (no recovery)
[07:24] <jetscreamer> chmod
[07:24] <Falstius> Jamesinator: who owns it?
[07:24] <chrisLAbeard> Hey can someone help me figure out why ubuntu keeps going to the root once i choose the correct driver
[07:24] <jetscreamer> if you're root don't add sudo
[07:25] <chrisLAbeard> or at least ubuntu thinks its the right driver
[07:25] <Jamesinator> Falstius: root:root
[07:25] <xtknight> bruenig, actually basically done but i'd need to do your script | xargs -l ./youtube-dl http://www.youtube.com/$1  or something.  so basically that's all that's left
[07:25] <n2diy> maria22: research single user mode.
[07:25] <xtknight> like ./youtube-dl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uBAPbOWLxc
[07:26] <xtknight> bruenig, haha how are you going to handle multiple search result pages though?
[07:26] <reanjr> xtknight:basically got it, but it throws false positives (extra URLs)
[07:26] <jetscreamer> as root, chmod 440 /etc/sudoers
[07:26] <Falstius> Jamesinator: so if you do say, 'sudo ls .' it gives you that error?  Did you suid /usr/bin/sudo? (The permissions should be -rwsr-sr-x
[07:26] <jetscreamer> ^^
[07:26] <reanjr> xtknight, paginated search could be done as well, though it would bloat the script (right now it's 4 lines)
[07:27] <JBandP> can anyone help me share a ubuntu folder?
[07:27] <bruenig> xtknight, right proof of concept is all, but the rest should be pretty easy
[07:27] <xtknight> 1000 for all i care :P
[07:27] <Falstius> Jamesinator: and for the record, never keep important data on your / partition :)
[07:27] <Jamesinator> Falstius: That would do it all right, considering that /usr is completely screwed
[07:27] <Jamesinator> Falstius: Just a second, I'll try and fix the permissions on /usr with this box as a guideline...
[07:28] <jetscreamer> as root, chmod 440 /etc/sudoers
[07:28] <bruenig> this one gives better output actually: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31624/
[07:28] <reanjr> bruenig: at some point I really need to learn awk.
[07:28] <maria22> bah, this is useless
[07:28] <JBandP> Why do my login accounts not work when i try to log into a shared ubuntu drive from my mac?  Ive got one login and i know the user/pass but i always get a "name or password is inccorect" message
[07:28] <maria22> longlive windows
[07:29] <n2diy> jetscreamer: why would you want no one to execute /etc/sudoers?
[07:29] <zerokill88> how do you append text while writing to a file/>
[07:29] <xtknight> it's not an executable ?
[07:29] <Jamesinator> Falstius: Ok, what's the octal equivalent of "-rwsr-sr-x" ?
[07:29] <voidmage> weirdest thing i've seen in a while
[07:29] <Falstius> reanjr: no more than a few of the commands are handy enough to know by heart.
[07:29] <voidmage> only reason i was having so much trouble with nvidia was because ccache failed a sanity check and nothing told me
[07:29] <Jamesinator> Falstius: Or, to better that question, how can I tell the octal permissions of a file from a terminal?
[07:29] <n2diy> xtknight: was that a reply to me?
[07:29] <xtknight> Jamesinator, run "stat -c %a /file" to get octal permissions
[07:30] <xtknight> n2diy, ya, /etc/sudoers isnt executable is it?
[07:30] <reanjr> Jamesinator: I think it's 6755
[07:30] <jetscreamer> n2diy: to fix the problem
[07:30] <Jamesinator> xtknight: Thanks
[07:30] <jetscreamer> what part of the error did nobody read?
[07:30] <Jamesinator> reanjr: 4755, according to this box, but thanks
[07:30] <n2diy> xtknight:  but what about the files under it?
[07:30] <Jamesinator> Ok, back to fixing the permissions for /usr
[07:30] <reanjr> Jamesinator: ahhh... right, I know where I messed up
[07:30] <JBandP> anyone?   sharing?? user/pass not working?
[07:30] <xtknight> n2diy, umm i dont know:P
[07:30] <KyleCardoza> Can anyone help me with my input method problem?
[07:31] <Falstius> Jamesinator: chmod 755 /usr/bin/sudo, chmod a+s /usr/bin/sudo
[07:31] <jetscreamer> DUH
[07:31] <jetscreamer> it's the permissions on SUDOERS
[07:32] <xtknight> i think it's x000 something in the x
[07:32] <riotkittie> wow. tonight is not my night.
[07:32] <reanjr> Falstius: prefix the 3-digit octal with 4
[07:32] <n2diy> riotkittie: should stick with Dapper. :)
[07:32] <Jamesinator> Falstius: Thanks
[07:33] <riotkittie> n2diy:  oh i've been using on it for a few hours now
[07:33] <reanjr> zerokill88:use >> instead of >
[07:33] <Jamesinator> Falstius: Even after getting the permissions on /etc/sudoers and /usr/bin/sudo right I still get the error with sudo... Also, is there something wrong with chmodding my entire filesystem to 0755? Because that's what I think I did to get this problem. >_>
[07:34] <xtknight> ya you should never chmod outside of /home
[07:34] <Falstius> Jamesinator: yeah, yeah there is.
[07:34] <xtknight> generally
[07:34] <JBandP> how in the holy hell does my friggin' user/pass not work for connecting to this share.  this is so bizarre.
[07:34] <Jamesinator> Falstius: The fix for that being...?
[07:34] <reanjr> Jamesinator: do you have a root account?
[07:34] <Jamesinator> reanjr: Yes
[07:34] <n2diy> Jamesinator: yes, giving the world wrx permissions to your whole file system is a bad idea.
[07:34] <riotkittie> in the span of one night, i've given up on 6.10, 7.04 and uhm, getting compiz to work. woo.
[07:34] <n2diy> wrx/rwx
[07:34] <Jamesinator> n2diy: At the moment, security is the least of my issues
[07:35] <xtknight> not only security, but stuff just plain old refuses to run also
[07:35] <IanLiu> Hello
[07:35] <Falstius> Jamesinator: a lot of tedious comparison with a properly installed computer, reinstalling, or maybe one could do some dpkg magic.
[07:35] <Jamesinator> That would do it all, right
[07:35] <reanjr> Jamesinator: even beyond that, some things will fail to work with files with those types of permissions (ssh comes to mind)
[07:35] <jetscreamer> 744
[07:35] <Jamesinator> Is there some sort of magical "chmod -Rc ???? /" permission I can set? Because I don't think there is. :P
[07:36] <IanLiu> Why my Ubuntu keeps reading the CD-ROM? It never stops, even if I am not accessing it... any solution?
[07:36] <xtknight> nope.  SUSe has a permissions package to set all permissions.  debian/ubuntu does not, AFAIK
[07:36] <jonathan_> hello
[07:36] <reanjr> IanLiu: maybe your package manager is looking for updates?
[07:36] <jonathan_> somebody can help me with the installation of nero linux 3.0.0??
[07:37] <IanLiu> In fact I am updating ubuntu
[07:37] <IanLiu> Via synaptic
[07:37] <reanjr> IanLiu: if you have anything in your /etc/apt/sources.list that has "cdrom" in it, try commenting it out and running "sudo apt-get update"
[07:37] <Zasch> Hello. How do I set a resolution higher than 1024x768 on Ubuntu?
[07:37] <xtknight> !fixres | Zasch
[07:37] <ubotu> Zasch: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:37] <IanLiu> ok, I will try
[07:39] <n2diy> How can I list my com ports?
[07:39] <Frogzoo> n2diy: they're there as /dev/ttyS0
[07:40] <eboyjr> I managed to shrink my Windows partition, but now I want to increase my Linux partition. What can I do?
[07:40] <Frogzoo> !patience | Jamesinator
[07:40] <ubotu> Jamesinator: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:40] <Falstius> Jamesinator: I don't see why you're so dead set against backing up your data and reinstalling.
[07:40] <n2diy> Frogzoo: that only list one port. Say I'm working on a strange box, and I want to know how many com ports are availble to me?
[07:40] <Falstius> Jamesinator: I looked at the dpkg man file and didn't find anything encouraging.
[07:40] <reanjr> eboyjr:download the gparted live cd
[07:41] <Jamesinator> Falstius: Yeah, I know, at the moment I've resigned myself to meticulously comparing and changing permissions from my healthy box to the screwed box
[07:41] <JBandP> does a suer in ubuntu have to do something special (other than sharing a folder) to enable access to a ubuntu share?
[07:41] <Jamesinator> Falstius: As I don't have a working SSH on the screwed box, I guess I'll be getting a lot of exercise running to and fro each time
[07:41] <reanjr> JBandP: maybe a port on a firewall needs to be opened?
[07:41] <Falstius> JBandP: sudo smbpasswd -a yourusername
[07:41] <Frogzoo> JBandP: for samba, you need to do 'smbpasswd' to create the user a samba password
[07:42] <JBandP> reanjr: it connects from my mac. i see the share. but it will *NOT* accept myuser/pass
[07:42] <eboyjr> reanjr: I have QT Parted. Just to make sure, I can't use that?
[07:42] <JBandP> Frogoo. oh, that may be it
[07:42] <reanjr> eboyjr: that should work as long it has a CD that allows you to boot from it
[07:42] <Zasch> What is the Ubuntu equivalent of Task Manager?
[07:42] <xtknight> Zasch, gnome-system-monitor
[07:42] <punsad> Zasch: top
[07:42] <reanjr> eboyjr: they're the same program with different UIs I believe
[07:42] <IanLiu> There is nothing related to CD-ROM inside sources.list
[07:42] <Jamesinator> Falstius: Also, this is my mother's machine, of whom is no great shakes at anything remotely technical. I barely managed to get her to switch to Ubuntu, and telling her that a stupid mistake of mine forced me to back up her data, wipe her box, and lose all her settings, installed programs, etc, would not go over well.
[07:43] <punsad> Zasch: or 'ps ax | less'
[07:43] <reanjr> IanLiu:sorry, not sure then
[07:43] <xtknight> IanLiu, no "apt-cdrom" ?
[07:43] <Falstius> Jamesinator: I've been using linux for 10+ years now, full time for 4 and I still gave up and reinstalled because little things kept popping up after I had the system 'working' again.
[07:43] <IanLiu> I have just installed Ubuntu feisty
[07:43] <Zasch> What is the best instant messaging client for Ubuntu?
[07:43] <IanLiu> the source list is the default one
[07:43] <sarthor> how can i access my PC which passwd i dont remember, and thats far away from my, but i know its IP and Login name.
[07:43] <xtknight> Jamesinator, just FYI all settings are stored in /home.  unless you're sure there is data anywhere else then reinstalling is way easier
[07:43] <reanjr> Zasch: I prefer pidgin
[07:43] <eboyjr> reanjr: Got it 'cause you can't resize the partition that you're using. Thanks I'll download Gparted Live CD.
[07:43] <Falstius> Jamesinator: are the install programs all with apt-get?  Just use dpkg -i to get a list and then reinstall them.
[07:43] <xtknight> Jamesinator, Documents is in /home also, the desktop is too, all the gnome settings
[07:44] <n2diy> sarthor: you don't.
[07:44] <Falstius> Jamesinator: er dpkg -l
[07:44] <Zasch> reanjr: How do you get it? I too would like Pidgin, but when I try "sudo apt-get install pidgin", it says it can't find it
[07:44] <Jamesinator> Will all the installed packages, settings, boot scripts, system tweaks, etc be there? *roll eyes*
[07:44] <JBandP> smbpasswrd gives me the error "could not connect to machine 127.0.0.: NT_STATUS_LOGN_FAILURE failed to change password from baron"
[07:44] <xtknight> ya you may as well do "sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop"
[07:44] <John`> Zasch: pidgin is Gaim
[07:44] <xtknight> if thatll do anything
[07:44] <Jamesinator> Like I said, reinstalling is not an option
[07:44] <Zasch> John': Are there any differences between the two, then, except the name?
[07:44] <reanjr> Zasch, you'll have to download it, untar it (tar -xzvf pidgin...), and run ./configure; make; sudo make install
[07:45] <xtknight> well whatever..
[07:45] <Jamesinator> Thanks for your help though, I guess I'll be staying up for a couple extra days
[07:45] <John`> Zasch: I heard it just a name change, not so sure its different
[07:45] <Shyam> how to install theme in Ubuntu?
[07:45] <Abu_Hamza> !themes
[07:45] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[07:45] <xtknight> Shyam, do you have it in a tar.gz or tar.bz2 file?
[07:45] <reanjr> Zasch, John`:they have slightly different UIs, pidgin is cleaner in my opinion
[07:45] <Abu_Hamza> !changethemes
[07:45] <ubotu> To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[07:45] <Shyam> tar.gz i have untar it
[07:45] <John`> reanjr: what do you mean by cleaner..?
[07:46] <mabo> hi, how re u guys???
[07:46] <Abu_Hamza> Shyam: that's not enough to install a theme, go follow the instructions
[07:46] <xtknight> Shyam, okay,  you dont need to untar it.  simply goto system->preferences->themes, and drag and drop the TAR.GZ into the window
[07:46] <reanjr> John`: some of the borders and stuff take up less space.  Looks like they were inspired by GoogleTalk a little
[07:46] <Falstius> Jamesinator: maybe write a script to record the permissions of every file on the other computer into a file and then apply them to the new computer (would be faster)
[07:46] <Shyam> ok knight..i try it
[07:46] <reanjr> John`: and the icons I think make much more sense
[07:46] <Jamesinator> Falstius: Hmm... that's a good idea. Unfortunately, I wouldn't know how to write it.
[07:46] <xtknight> ya just "find * | xargs -l1 stat -c %a" that would get you all the octals
[07:46] <towlieba> i need to find something out for a friend. he has a 64-bit computer and installed the 64 bit version of ubuntu on it but is having problems installing some firefox plugins. will he be able to install the 32 bit version of ubuntu on a 64 bit system
[07:47] <reanjr> John`: by icons, I mean the little status icons that tell you whether they're on or not.
[07:47] <||drake||> alright
[07:47] <||drake||> easy question
[07:47] <venish> can somebody help me install Avant Manager
[07:47] <reanjr> 42
[07:47] <||drake||> how do i end an xsession
[07:47] <||drake||> ?
[07:47] <xtknight> towlieba, yes, definitely.
[07:47] <xtknight> towlieba, all AMD64 architecture CPUs also support 32-bit
[07:47] <reanjr> ||drake|| what window manager are you using?
[07:47] <||drake||> gnome
[07:47] <John`> reanjr: er.. when people online it will say they are online, I'm not too sure what you mean by icon, the names have different icon depending on the person?
[07:47] <towlieba> xtknight,  ok because he said he tried it with the 32 bit install cd but got an error that the file system wasnt supported
[07:48] <xtknight> towlieba, must be something else
[07:48] <punsad> ||drake||: there should be a 'logout' button somewhere... if not - ctrl-shift-backspace (I think)
[07:48] <||drake||> reanjr: ctrl+alt+backspace used to work, but now it doesnt
[07:48] <reanjr> ||drake||: there is a power looking button in the upper right i think
[07:48] <||drake||> i dont need to log out
[07:48] <xtknight> towlieba, was he trying to install over something?
[07:48] <||drake||> i need to end the xsession
[07:48] <xtknight> ||drake||, what do you mean?
[07:48] <||drake||> ...
[07:48] <towlieba> xtknight,  no a fresh install
[07:48] <||drake||> as in
[07:48] <||drake||> stop xorg
[07:48] <xtknight> it doesnt make any sense
[07:48] <xtknight> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:48] <venish> can somebody help me install Avant Manager?
[07:48] <||drake||> logout takes me to the login screen
[07:48] <xtknight> ||drake||,  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:48] <tonyyarusso> !repeat | venish
[07:49] <ubotu> venish: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:49] <Shyam> xtknight..tks alot it works
[07:49] <reanjr> John`: From what I remember (I haven't used gaim in a while) - now that I think about it - the icons are easier to see in a glance; they are less intruded by the name of the person and they're pic
[07:49] <xtknight> an xsession is something that starts a Wm
[07:49] <RabidWeezle> !vcd
[07:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vcd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:49] <xtknight> so you'd be kiling gnome WM and staring at a X cursor
[07:49] <RabidWeezle> !videocd
[07:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about videocd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:49] <xtknight> if you want to stop Xorg then you need to kill X
[07:49] <||drake||> i need to kill it so i can edit xorg.conf
[07:49] <||drake||> :)
[07:49] <linkstack> help,how to use wine to execute a exe file in a window?
[07:49] <||drake||> not manually, using nVidia's program
[07:49] <xtknight> ||drake||, ok again did you try "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" ?
[07:49] <||drake||> it requires x to end
[07:49] <RabidWeezle> anyone know where I can find a vcd player?
[07:49] <||drake||> im about to
[07:50] <JBandP> can someoen please help with my share problem?
[07:50] <Falstius> Jamesinator: learn, it will still be faster ;)  it isn't that hard.  Do something like find / -dex -exec echo \{} `stat -c %a \{}` \; > permissions.list
[07:50] <Falstius> bed time
[07:50] <eboyjr> thanks whoever and bye
[07:50] <JBandP> ive struck out on everything in ubuntu tonight. i'd like to get at least one thing running :)
[07:50] <Abu_Hamza> JBandP: share as in share market?
[07:50] <xtknight> JBandP, alright ill try
[07:50] <korhalf> alsa and JACK are creating problems for me, a bunch of audio progs are saying my sound device is being held up
[07:50] <JBandP> share as in trying to access a folder on my ubuntu machine from my mac or pc
[07:50] <venish> dofstarf: can you help me install Avant Manager
[07:50] <Zasch> What is the difference between aptitude and apt-get?
[07:50] <John`> reanjr: yes, gaim have the icon next to people's name if they actually put one up, I'm not sure if you talking about putting the icon yourself next to their name, but you can always make a short description of who that person is, making it easier to identify them
[07:51] <korhalf> what can i do
[07:51] <linkstack> help,how to use wine to execute a exe file in a window?
[07:51] <xtknight> Zasch, not much but aptitude has a couple more supported features
[07:51] <n2diy> Zasch: Aptitude is apt-get's gui.
[07:51] <xtknight> linkstack, wine /asdf/blah/file.exe
[07:51] <Abu_Hamza> Zasch: they are basically the same
[07:51] <JBandP> im trying things like wbinfo -t and getting errors like domain controller not found. granted i dont know what the hell im doing.
[07:51] <xtknight> JBandP, oh yuck samba ;D
[07:51] <reanjr> John`: I'm referring to the status icon (the green dot or whatever) that let's you know they're online or idle or whatever.  The change is subtle, I just remember liking the interface alot more
[07:51] <xtknight> JBandP, if it helps, it's easier to share it on the windows side and access from ubuntu
[07:52] <lietu> I thought samba was damn easy to install on ubuntu
[07:52] <John`> reanjr: ahh, got you, on gaim, if people idle, they just gray out and stuff.
[07:52] <xtknight> nah
[07:52] <John`> reanjr: or away, they have the little sheet of paper next to it
[07:52] <JBandP> xtknight: i noticed that too.  but it's kind of crappy that way since i want to throw this ubuntu machine in a closest and acess via VNC or something.
[07:52] <xtknight> JBandP, hm what do you mean?
[07:53] <JBandP> it's going to be running my dummy websierver
[07:53] <lietu> sudo apt-get install samba smbfs, share folders in the system->administration->shared folders and do smbpasswd -a user
[07:53] <JBandP> i wont ever really be sitting infront of this ubuntu machine.
[07:53] <lietu> that was all I had to do
[07:53] <reanjr> John`: pidgin's: http://linux.softpedia.com/progScreenshots/Pidgin-Screenshot-6.html
[07:53] <Shyam> how to hide ur files?
[07:53] <xtknight> JBandP, try lietu's suggestions
[07:53] <linkstack> xtknight,if I want to play starcraft,what should I do?  wine starcraft.exe?
[07:53] <xtknight> JBandP, ive only done it the other way
[07:53] <xtknight> linkstack, yea
[07:53] <JBandP> so connecting from ubuntu to my other 8 machines sucks.
[07:54] <xtknight> JBandP, you could use ftp too
[07:54] <lietu> winscp ;)
[07:54] <JBandP> trying that now
[07:54] <xtknight> samba is the devil :)
[07:54] <reanjr> Shyam:rename them with a . in front
[07:54] <n2diy> xtknight: ftp is outdated, and insecure, scp is a better choice.
[07:54] <JBandP> my girlfriend is used to the server things. getting her to ftp will suck :(
[07:54] <lietu> samba aint THAT bad after you've been working with samba-related problems for years and know most of them ;)
[07:54] <Shyam> reanjr, rename the file? ok tks
[07:54] <xtknight> n2diy, lol
[07:54] <reanjr> Shyam: yeah
[07:54] <||drake||> alright, thanks
[07:54] <||drake||> that worked
[07:54] <xtknight> n2diy, i dont know ive neverhad trouble with ftp
[07:54] <||drake||> now
[07:55] <linkstack> xtknight,thanks
[07:55] <John`> reanjr: ok, thanks
[07:55] <xtknight> !enter | ||drake||
[07:55] <ubotu> ||drake||: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:55] <||drake||> anyone know anything about ndiswrapper
[07:55] <||drake||> ?
[07:55] <JBandP> im trying sudo get-int install samba smbfs
[07:55] <reanjr> ||drake||: I know it is used to use Windows drivers on Linux...
[07:55] <lietu> what the heck is get-int? ;)
[07:55] <xtknight> lol
[07:55] <n2diy> xtknight: I haven't either, but I like to minimize my risks.
[07:55] <||drake||> reanjr: alright... well, i tried to install a driver for my intel wireless 4965 card
[07:56] <||drake||> and i'm having issues
[07:56] <reanjr> ||drake||: no... see.. that's pretty much ALL I know about ndiswrapper :)
[07:56] <||drake||> reanjr: :) alright
[07:56] <JBandP> opps. not get-int/.... that my code brain at work :)
[07:56] <JBandP> its lae
[07:57] <||drake||> if i could just get this damn wireless working
[07:57] <||drake||> i'd be happy
[07:57] <JBandP> lietu: your suggestion wrked!
[07:57] <digitalsky> hi i need help with sound, would someone be able to help me?
[07:58] <reanjr> ||drake||: amusingly enough, I can't get my wireless drivers working in Windows, but had no problem in Linux
[07:58] <JBandP> finally i can use up this TB.
[07:58] <lietu> JBandP: glad to be of assistance
[07:58] <||drake||> reanjr: thats crazy talk
[07:58] <JBandP> now, another questin. i chose the LAMP option for my install.   how do i access apache/mysql etc etc..
[07:58] <||drake||> reanjr: when would linux ever be better than windows ;)
[07:58] <reanjr> ||drake||: machine came with Vista, but has XP installed.  I think that's the root of my problem
[07:58] <lietu> JBandP: define access ;)
[07:59] <zerokill88> ||drake|| did u ever check out that website
[07:59] <lietu> JBandP: I guess generally you'd want an interface to configure etc them, webmin is quite good at the job
[07:59] <reanjr> lietu:http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=define:access&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 :)
[07:59] <bruenig> xtknight, here is the full thing, it uses youtube-dl to download it and it will go through all of the pages: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31627/
[07:59] <bruenig> all of the search pages that is, not just page 1
[07:59] <xtknight> bruenig, that's pretty sweet
[08:00] <reanjr> bruenig: 27 lines; bash rocks
[08:00] <JBandP> lietu: well, start apache for one i guess. apache is apache. i just need to know if and where it's installed.   same goes for mysql i guess. aparently hp is installed as well. god knows where :)
[08:00] <lietu> not exactly what I meant reanjr, but thanks ;)
[08:00] <||drake||> zerokill88: yea... ndiswrapper isnt working for me: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=471794&page=3&highlight=4965
[08:00] <xtknight> bruenig, but youtube-dl executes only one at a time, or will it work anyway just serially?
[08:00] <xtknight> i wonder if there's an easy way to parallelze it
[08:00] <bruenig> xtknight, can you do more than once?
[08:00] <xtknight> like gnome-terminal ./youtube-dl
[08:00] <xtknight> ya
[08:00] <bruenig> xtknight, like youtube-dl thing1 thing2
[08:00] <bruenig> ?
[08:00] <xtknight> different youtube severs actually
[08:00] <xtknight> bruenig, oh, no.  separate executions
[08:01] <xtknight> different bashes
[08:01] <bruenig> xtknight, I can background each one
[08:01] <xtknight> oh using &
[08:01] <xtknight> true
[08:01] <JBandP> webmin. ok, i will check it.
[08:01] <lietu> JBandP: are you sure they're not already installed? generally you should be able to run them by locating the few scripts in /etc/init.d and running /etc/init.d/apache(might be httpd) start and /etc/init.d/mysql* start ... to make them start automatically, you need to make a symbolic link with "ln -s" from /etc/init.d/scriptname to /etc/rcX.d/S??scriptname
[08:02] <w30> I am having no luck getting suspend to work for the Ctl>Alt>F(n) terminals on my laptop when I have the Nvidia binary 3d  driver enabled. Any one have any tips?
[08:02] <reanjr> JBandP: try browsing to http://localhost
[08:02] <lietu> JBandP: where X is the number outputted by the command "runlevel" and ?? is based on the priority you want to start them
[08:02] <marl> anyone know if there is a limit on the size of an extended partion? parted doesnt seem to be letting me go behond aprox 403GB :(
[08:02] <sauvin> v30, what happens when you try it?
[08:02] <reanjr> marl: there is, but I think it's bigger than that
[08:03] <JBandP> oh nice. sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start worked!
[08:03] <marl> :( trying to configure a 7TB drive :(
[08:03] <linkstack> help,I want to use the directory(F:\QQ)'s dll in wine? What should I do?
[08:03] <JBandP> aoache's running to!
[08:03] <w30> sauvin, I get a blank scren on all the F(n) tries after suspend, hibernate works ok
[08:03] <JBandP> wicked.
[08:03] <reanjr> marl:so I assume your BIOS is not the problem... :)
[08:04] <bruenig_> xtknight, don't background it
[08:04] <xtknight> bruenig, on the other hand they'd probably ban me from youtube if i tried to get 200 videos at once
[08:04] <xtknight> lol
[08:04] <marl> nope, using a 3ware raid card
[08:04] <xtknight> apparently not :D
[08:04] <JBandP> thanks, lietu.  this might be a question for #mysql. but do you know where mysql is actually located?  or apache fr that matter?
[08:04] <bruenig_> yeah, computer crashed
[08:04] <marl> fdisk/cfdisk complain that they cant read the disk size, but the original partioning tools on install worked without any probs :(
[08:05] <bruenig> ls
[08:05] <sauvin> i don't know about suspend/hibernate, but when I try to get to a virtual console, all I get are all kinds of rainbows. Nothing coherent. I dont' have nvidia, though; I have an ATI  Radeon.
[08:05] <linkstack> help,I want to use the directory(F:\QQ)'s dll in wine.What should I do?
[08:05] <reanjr> JBandP: the configurations for them or the actual binaries?>
[08:05] <||drake||> anyone know how to install drivers for the intel 4965?
[08:05] <lietu> JBandP: well, apache's configuration is usually in /etc/apache/
[08:05] <lietu> JBandP: well, apache's configuration is usually in /etc/apache/ or apache2
[08:05] <lietu> erm, wasnt supposed to do that, but did that anyways, sorry ;)
[08:05] <w30> sauvin, they re there, they don't show on screen: You can type blind and get results
[08:05] <JBandP> so are config files normally in /etc/software_name?
[08:06] <lietu> most commonly, yes
[08:06] <JBandP> beaut.  is there a simpe way to config my display so i dont have to set the refresh rate and crap manually?
[08:06] <lietu> JBandP: but I do suggest you get that webmin if you want to fiddle with anything ;)
[08:06] <reanjr> JBandP: when in doubt, run "sudo updatedb" followed by "locate <whatever>"
[08:07] <sauvin> I'm not too wild about typing blind, though. It's no way to screw around with editing source code :D
[08:07] <marl> anyone know if its posible to create an lvm on a disk that already has some partions on it, and has a large unpartitioned space, to use with lvm?
[08:07] <linkstack> anyone can help me?I want to use the directory(F:\QQ)'s dll in wine.What should I do?
[08:07] <JBandP> liet: i know mysql and apache well. im used to command line. just not in *nix :)
[08:07] <lietu> heh, fine enough ;)
[08:08] <w30> sauvin, ha!
[08:08] <xtknight> bruenig, hm try this, about 1000 more results come up than they should.  maybe duplicating?  ./youtube-search3 "george carlin back in town"
[08:08] <xtknight> maybe the fact i tried "george carlin" first screwed something up
[08:08] <JBandP> my display looks screwed though. its a widescreen set at 1024x768 :)
[08:08] <JBandP> i tried rnning xconfigurator but didnt know all the settings.
[08:08] <xtknight> JBandP, you just need to add the res to a line
[08:08] <xtknight> JBandP, gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:09] <xtknight> JBandP, it's at the bottom itll be obvious (theres a line for each bit depth)
[08:09] <bruenig> xtknight, did you make sure to delete the urls.list from last use
[08:09] <bruenig> xtknight, I probably should put that in the script
[08:09] <xtknight> bruenig, oh forgot.  only did ls *tmp*
[08:10] <reanjr> Anyone know why totem causes my background image to change?  (the original reason I came her over 2 hours ago :) )
[08:10] <xtknight> that sounds pretty weird ;)
[08:10] <JBandP> xtkight. thnaks
[08:10] <reanjr> xtknight: I totally concur
[08:10] <xtknight> reanjr, i think there is an mplayer output device to the desktop background
[08:10] <xtknight> reanjr, maybe that is it?
[08:10] <xtknight> i dont know
[08:11] <xtknight> reanjr, what actually changes on the desktop when you do that?  what background appears?
[08:11] <bruenig> xtknight, just change the for line to this: for URL in $(cat urls.list && rm urls.list); do
[08:11] <lietu> reanjr: a creature of black magic has taken over your computer and it's now filled with little gremlins running everywhere
[08:11] <reanjr> xtknight: It's my GNOME background (from nautilus); I don't think I have mplayer installed anyway
[08:11] <xtknight> bruenig, ah i was just gonna add "rm -f urls.list" at the end?  any difference?
[08:11] <xtknight> reanjr, how does the background change when you run totem?
[08:12] <bruenig> xtknight, well assuming you don't want to download 100 results if that many shows up, you can terminate it and still have the thing removed
[08:12] <||drake||> this is the most brutal thing i have ever had to deal with
[08:12] <xtknight> bruenig, ahh i see.
[08:12] <xtknight> bruenig, cool, thanks for this
[08:12] <JBandP> wierd. xorg.conf has all sorts of resolutions in it0 but screen resolutions in system_..xxx only has three options in it
[08:12] <xtknight> bruenig, you should get it into universe ;)
[08:12] <reanjr> xtknight: I run Window Maker.  Normally when you install nautilus, when you run it it will create a desktop with GNOME's background image.  That's a setting that I turned off, but as of yesterday, it started happening when I run totem
[08:12] <bruenig> xtknight, probably add some more output, like wc -l urls.list so that it will tell you how many videos, etc.
[08:13] <browndog> Newbie with a question about deleting a folder...can anyone help?
[08:13] <xtknight> browndog, yup be more specific
[08:13] <xtknight> reanjr, hmm
[08:13] <reanjr> xtknight: I don't know if nautilus is the problem somehow (through totem) or totem interfacing with GNOME or ... *shrug*
[08:13] <Zasch> Help: I'm trying to install pidgin from source. I open the console, go into the folder where the source is at, and type in ./configure, but then it says "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[08:13] <bnnagabhushan> can ne1 tell me how to login as root
[08:14] <xtknight> Zasch, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:14] <browndog> Ok...I installed RealPlayer.  Now I have two folders, one in /usr/local and one on my desktop...
[08:14] <reanjr> bnnagabhushan: generally on ubuntu, you can't
[08:14] <n2diy> Zasch:  do you have build-essential installed?
[08:14] <xtknight> browndog, i think i know the end of this story.  you cant delete the /usr/local one?
[08:14] <reanjr> bnnagabhushan:it's designed to use sudo instead
[08:14] <Zasch> No. This is a fresh Ubuntu installation
[08:14] <xtknight> !root | bnnagabhushan
[08:14] <ubotu> bnnagabhushan: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[08:14] <browndog> I've tried changing the permissions to allow me to delete it (the one on the desktop), but when I try it says I don't have permission to modify it's parent folder.
[08:15] <xtknight> browndog, try sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /home/$USER/Desktop/RealPlayer
[08:15] <browndog> ok, brb
[08:16] <Zasch> Now it says: The msgfmt command is required to build libpurple. If it is not installed, install GNU gettext to continue
[08:16] <Zasch> What does this mean?
[08:16] <JBandP> how does one create a directory in terminal?  "create"/  md?
[08:16] <bruenig> JBandP, mkdir
[08:16] <xtknight> Zasch, hmm probably need gettext development libraries or something
[08:16] <JBandP> thx
[08:16] <Zasch> xtknight: How to I get this?
[08:16] <xtknight> Zasch, i actually had that problem before and it was a nightmare (not to discouage you or anything :) )
[08:16] <reanjr> Zasch: it means run sudo apt-get install gettext
[08:16] <xtknight> Zasch, i thought i read gettext was part of libc-dev and it wasnt on ubuntu... or something
[08:17] <bnnagabhushan> rechange the owner of sda6
[08:17] <browndog> Wow!!!!!!!!!!!  It worked!!!  What did I just do??
[08:17] <Zasch> Now it says: "You must have the GLib 2.0 development headers installed to build"
[08:17] <xtknight> browndog, you set the owner of the folder to yourself
[08:17] <korhalf> I need help with JACK and ALSA, theyre conflictin gor something
[08:17] <korhalf> im geting errors that my soundcard is tied up
[08:17] <n2diy> xtknight: linux wouldn't run without libc
[08:17] <xtknight> n2diy, but it runs without libc-dev
[08:17] <korhalf> when trying to run Jack Control
[08:17] <enterneo> my super key is not working in Feisty :(
[08:17] <JBandP> how can i allow my other logins to create directories/files undercar/www ?
[08:17] <JBandP> var/www?
[08:17] <reanjr> Zasch: oh dear god; it wasn't that difficult for me; I guess I already had most of the packages installed...
[08:17] <xtknight> Zasch, sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[08:17] <bnnagabhushan> im not able to write files into my hdd partition. pls help
[08:17] <n2diy> xtknight: yes.
[08:17] <browndog> I had tried doing that with sudo chown myname RealPlayer...that didn't seem to matter
[08:18] <xtknight> n2diy, my problem was apparently missing gettext devel libs not gettext itself
[08:18] <xtknight> n2diy, his was different i guess
[08:18] <reanjr> Zasch: sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev
[08:18] <Zasch> Wyh aren't these things included with Ubuntu, or better yet, why isn't Pidgin (a common program, I gather) nice and easy to install?
[08:18] <xtknight> Zasch, because it's called gaim in Feisty
[08:18] <reanjr> Zasch:it'
[08:18] <reanjr> Zasch:...ooops... it's new, it just hasn't made it yet
[08:18] <n2diy> xtknight: never heard of gettext dev!?
[08:18] <xtknight> Zasch, they aren't included because they dont fit on the cd
[08:18] <bnnagabhushan> im not able to write files into my hdd partition. pls help
[08:19] <xtknight> n2diy, eh you get the point it was probably something else
[08:19] <xtknight> n2diy, i dont know
[08:19] <peeps_work> does anyone know what network interface eth0:avah might be?
[08:19] <browndog> bnnaga can you be more specific?
[08:19] <xtknight> n2diy, i know i had a lot of trouble with it and at that point i'd compiled a million things.  surely if it was that easy..
[08:19] <Zasch> Now it says: You must have libxml2 >= 2.6.0 development headers installed to build.
[08:19] <xtknight> Zasch, seeing a pattern here?
[08:19] <reanjr> Zasch: generally these packages are only used for those who develop things or install from source.  Ubuntu tries to set up a system where you can get almost everything from the package management system
[08:19] <xtknight> sudo apt-get install libxml2-dev
[08:19] <xtknight> and that was a wild guess
[08:19] <bnnagabhushan> i hav a sda6 partition mounted. but i dont hav permission to write into it
[08:20] <n2diy> xtknight: roger that, I thought I'd encountered most dependency problems you could find, but not that one.
[08:20] <xtknight> n2diy, i think i was for whatever reason recompiling gcc
[08:20] <xtknight> n2diy, and it needed new glib or libc or something i dont even know
[08:20] <browndog> try changing the owner to yourself by typing sudo chown yourname and then the name of the drive
[08:20] <Zasch> Now it says: error: cannot find input file: libpurple/gconf/Makefile.in
[08:21] <using> hello ,every one!
[08:21] <xtknight> Zasch, does it use automake?
[08:21] <n2diy> xtknight: ah, compiling the compiler!? That is living on the edge! :)
[08:21] <Zasch> I don't know? :P
[08:21] <xtknight> n2diy, lol ya
[08:21] <browndog> then change the permissions by typing sudo chmod 700 thedrivename
[08:21] <xtknight> Zasch, well does ./autogen.sh exist?
[08:21] <using> haha
[08:21] <bnnagabhushan> i tried. but its saying as it is a read only file
[08:21] <enterneo> my super key is not working in Feisty :(
[08:21] <Zasch> xtknight: If it did, where would it be?
[08:21] <browndog> change the permissions by typing sudo chmod 700 thedrivename
[08:21] <xtknight> Zasch, root of the app youre compilimh
[08:21] <xtknight> compiling*
[08:21] <xtknight> read the INSTALL file
[08:21] <reanjr> n2diy: that's too easy, assembly coding the compiler is much more hardcore
[08:21] <JBandP> how do i become the "owner" of a folder?
[08:21] <xtknight> or README
[08:22] <xtknight> JBandP, sudo chown $USER:$USER /folder/name
[08:22] <xtknight> or chown -R for all folders under it
[08:22] <xtknight> use with care
[08:22] <Zasch> Autogen does not exist
[08:22] <JBandP> can i do that from desktop?
[08:22] <xtknight> JBandP, with a right click? no
[08:22] <JBandP> i need to access everything in my apache directory.
[08:22] <n2diy> reanjr: assembly? that's for wimps, real programers use machine code. :)
[08:22] <xtknight> JBandP, /var/www ?
[08:22] <JBandP> yes, var/www
[08:22] <JBandP> and probably under my mysql dir too
[08:22] <xtknight> JBandP, i'll probably be impaled for saying it, but chown it to yourself
[08:22] <reanjr> n2diy: bahhh, real programmers punch holes in cards
[08:23] <linuxacolyspe> How do I secure a wi-fi home network using Ubuntu?
[08:23] <kahrytan> JBandP: should change the dir
[08:23] <xtknight> JBandP, or chmod it, allow write permissions?
[08:23] <kahrytan> !lamp | jband
[08:23] <ubotu> jband: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:23] <n2diy> reanjr: na, the set switches for the vacuum tubes!
[08:23] <kahrytan> JBandP: read the wiki
[08:23] <JBandP> i have lamp installed.
[08:23] <m0u5e> anyone know of a good partition editor that can merge or move ext partitions?
[08:23] <m0u5e> gparted can't do that
[08:23] <JBandP> i chose it from the menu.
[08:23] <reanjr> n2diy: I think that brings it to its inevitable conclusion
[08:23] <xtknight> n2diy, real programmers decode raw ebcdic
[08:24] <kahrytan> JBandP: Well duh. It helps you set it up
[08:24] <bnnagabhushan> bhushan@bhushan-desktop:/media$ sudo chmod 700 sda6
[08:24] <bnnagabhushan> Password:
[08:24] <bnnagabhushan> chmod: changing permissions of `sda6': Read-only file system
[08:24] <JBandP> oh ok..
[08:24] <bruenig> m00foo, you can't merge partitions, you can format one and then resize the other
[08:24] <bnnagabhushan> this is the msg im getting
[08:24] <bruenig> m00foo, same for move
[08:24] <n2diy> ! ebcdic
[08:24] <JBandP> im mainly trying to track down all the pieces since doing this u *nix is a first for me.
[08:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ebcdic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:24] <kahrytan> JBandP:you going to do public or private lamp?
[08:24] <xtknight> it's so old even ubotu has no idea what it is
[08:24] <xtknight> maybe he's better off
[08:25] <n2diy> :) me too.
[08:25] <thechris> bnnagabhushan: i don't think you can change the permission of a read only fs.  what fs is it listed as in "mount"
[08:25] <bnnagabhushan> how do i chk it
[08:25] <kahrytan> JBandP: Public or Private Lamp?
[08:25] <JBandP> kahrytan:private. for dev purposed. i have 2 dedicated machine elsewhere for this.
[08:25] <bruenig> bnnagabhushan, grep sda6 /etc/mtab
[08:25] <bulltitan> hi i have a big problem with my screen in ubuntustudio heres the paste http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31628/
[08:26] <bnnagabhushan> /dev/sda6 /media/sda6 ntfs rw,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 0
[08:26] <kahrytan> JBandP: Then you might want to change mysql and apache to localhost ip
[08:26] <bruenig> bnnagabhushan, ntfs is ro
[08:26] <JBandP> instead of 127.0.0.1?
[08:26] <m0u5e>  bruenig: ?
[08:26] <kahrytan> JBandP: that is home
[08:26] <bruenig> !ntfs-3g | bnnagabhushan
[08:26] <ubotu> bnnagabhushan: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[08:26] <JBandP> 127.0.0.1=local, no?
[08:26] <kahrytan> JBandP: 127.0.0.1 .. theres no place like home
[08:26] <using> yes
[08:27] <thechris> kahrytan: 127.0.0.2...  theres no place like home.  2.0
[08:27] <linuxacolyspe> Beer anyone? *brb*
[08:27] <xtknight> 0.0.0.0 there's no place like the black hole
[08:27] <kahrytan> thechris: very funny. Im quoting thinkgeek tshirt
[08:27] <n2diy> linuxacolyspe: sure
[08:27] <using> ?not understand 127.0.0.2
[08:27] <bruenig> quoting other people is always funny
[08:28] <lnxkde> guys I got a bussines, I need to make invoices, and print them, ans so on,  someone can tell me a good acounting program for linux or a POS program for linux?
[08:28] <bulltitan> 915resolution is installed but the glxinfo output is this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31628/
[08:28] <JBandP> this might be a bad question(probably is) but is there a way to fake who i am so i can get back into the oink irc chat ?? :)
[08:28] <kahrytan> JBandP: wiki will help you change and add sites to apache
[08:28] <und3rtug4> l00l
[08:28] <thechris> using: any 127.x.y.z is the local machine and is not routed.
[08:28] <Zasch> Someone I know uses Windows exclusively. What is the best way to transfer files between us?
[08:28] <JBandP> kahrytan:thanks, i will cehck it out.
[08:28] <bruenig> !gtfo | lnxkde
[08:28] <ubotu> lnxkde: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:28] <xtknight> Zasch, personally i like using "simple socket file transfer" with WINE
[08:28] <kahrytan> JBandP: for example, my site directs me to ~/public_html now
[08:28] <xtknight> Zasch, that's what i do with my other friend on AIM
[08:29] <lnxkde> bruenig, ?
[08:29] <Zasch> xtknight: What is this? (You are speaking to a comlpete newbie, by the way)
[08:29] <JBandP> i will just go into httpd.conf (if it's the same on *nix) amd alter where the home dir is.
[08:29] <xtknight> Zasch, oh just google it.  it's a windows app that's very simple
[08:29] <lnxkde> what did I say bruenig ?
[08:29] <bruenig> Zasch, he is in ubuntu, he already knows that
[08:29] <bulltitan> please help
[08:29] <bruenig> lnxkde, typo
[08:29] <n2diy> lnxde, take a look here: http://ooextras.sourceforge.net/downloads/english/index.php?tab=Calc
[08:30] <kahrytan> JBandP: actually it's gksudo gedit /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[08:30] <lnxkde> bruenig, ... sorry I am from Puerto Rico. My English is not the best.
[08:30] <Shyam> where can i download theme?
[08:30] <c0al> I have a weird problem - my gnome settings are all jacked up, and i want to just delete all the gnome config and log back in to get all new config files... but i can't seem to do it? i've deleted .gnome* and .gtk* but it still holds the same panel, nautilus, and desktop effects settings
[08:30] <xtknight> Zasch, it's easy for the windows guy.  he just runs the app and types in the IP info...  for you, you install WINE ("sudo apt-get install wine").  this allows you to run some simple windows programs.  then you run it with wine.  "wine ssft.exe".  ssft.exe is the name of "simple socket file tranfer" program
[08:30] <linuxacolyspe> *pours n2diy a nice pint of Michelob
[08:30] <lnxkde> n2diy, nice thankx
[08:30] <xtknight> pos=point of sale, not what you think it is
[08:30] <JBandP> kahrytan: ok, ive got ome becoming familiar to do. :) thank for the help thus far thgh
[08:30] <xtknight> lol
[08:31] <bulltitan> please help me with this issue in ubuntustudio http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31628/
[08:31] <Shyam> where can i download theme?
[08:31] <JBandP> So, is there a way i can fake where im surfing from so i ca get into the oink channel?
[08:31] <n2diy> linuxacolyspe: yum, one of my favorites.
[08:31] <xtknight> lnxkde, gnotime - utility for tracking and invoicing time spent on projects
[08:31] <xtknight> sql-ledger - A web based double-entry accounting program
[08:32] <xtknight> tutos2 - The Ultimate Team Organization Software
[08:32] <kahrytan> JBandP: proxy server
[08:32] <linuxacolyspe> Are there any good firewall / network monitoring tools for Ubuntu?
[08:32] <und3rtug4> finnaly the "nasty && old bitx" broadcom 43xx is working on feisty.... Damn i hate "winnie" hardware!
[08:32] <lnxkde> xtknight, nice
[08:32] <xtknight> lnxkde, also check out "gnucash"
[08:32] <xtknight> !info gnucash | lnxkde
[08:32] <ubotu> lnxkde: gnucash: A personal finance tracking program. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.2-3ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2065 kB, installed size 6512 kB
[08:32] <JBandP> kahrytan:proxy wont work. it knows my nickask or whatever it is called.
[08:32] <xtknight> !info gribi
[08:32] <ubotu> Package gribi does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:32] <xtknight> !info grisbi
[08:32] <linuxacolyspe> n2diy: YW. :-)
[08:32] <ubotu> grisbi: Personal finance management program. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.9-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 884 kB, installed size 2680 kB
[08:32] <xtknight> lnxkde, there's plenty, just search "finance" in synaptic
[08:32] <m0u5e> is there no way i can resize my ext3 partition if the free space lies right before that partition?
[08:32] <xtknight> lnx^,  gnucash is regarded as the best.
[08:32] <JBandP> the piece of info when someone logs in or out of a channel.
[08:32] <xtknight> lnxkde, *
[08:33] <lnxkde> nice thank
[08:33] <unique> can anyone tell me a timeserver where i can update my time?
[08:33] <xtknight> m0u5e, from what i read the other, no there isnt, actually
[08:33] <xtknight> the other day*
[08:33] <xtknight> unique, ntp.ubuntu.com
[08:33] <c0al> I have a weird problem - my gnome settings are all jacked up, and i want to just delete all the gnome config and log back in to get all new config files... but i can't seem to do it? i've deleted .gnome* and .gtk* but it still holds the same panel, nautilus, and desktop effects settings when i log back in
[08:33] <kahrytan> JBandP: then guess not
[08:33] <JBandP> man :(
[08:33] <dr_willis> unique,  google has  one also. :) i belive.
[08:33] <JBandP> bastard oink admins
[08:33] <RoundyT1> anyone on know python?
[08:33] <xtknight> c0al, well there is also .nautilus  and other things
[08:33] <xtknight> c0al, gconf too
[08:33] <file13> Is 512MB sufficient enough for a swap partition or should i use a gig?
[08:33] <thechris> RoundyT1: mostly
[08:34] <bnnagabhushan> how to install NTFS 3G driver
[08:34] <reanjr> RoundyT1:somewhat
[08:34] <xtknight> c0al, maybe the best idea would be to make a new user acct and transfer over non hidden files?
[08:34] <m0u5e> file13 doube your ram is usually good
[08:34] <dr_willis> file13,  depends on your ram.
[08:34] <m0u5e> *double
[08:34] <xtknight> what's the logic behind making it double your ram?
[08:34] <dr_willis> double may or may not be a total waste. :)
[08:34] <RoundyT1> thechris, reanjr, im looking for some help with a quick program that should
[08:34] <buntunub> !ntfs3g
[08:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:34] <m0u5e> xtknight: so you can at the very least, hibernate :D
[08:34] <file13> how do i check how much RAM i have on ubuntu
[08:34] <xtknight> ive heard 1.5x, 2.0x just never knew
[08:34] <xtknight> ahh true
[08:34] <xtknight> i use 8 gigs personally
[08:34] <lnxkde> xtknight, thank a lot man, I will be downloading some of them tomorow as soon I get time to work on my projects :s its 2:30am here now and I need to sleep thank a lot
[08:34] <dr_willis> xtknight,  OLD rule of thimb that dosent apply a lot.. Unles you are doing suspend to ram/suspend to disk stuff.
[08:34] <file13> im pretty sure i have a gig
[08:34] <xtknight> but i'm nuts.
[08:34] <c0al> xtknight, i actually did this just a sec ago and still nothing... moved the home directory to /home/backup and created a new home directory for my user.. and copied the config files from /etc/skel over... and i STILL am getting the same settings when i log in.. it's got be boggled lol.
[08:34] <xtknight> and i run a lot of VMS
[08:34] <reanjr> xtknight: the only thing I can think is that it's about appropriate given a snapshot in time based on what hardware levels are at
[08:34] <dr_willis> 'free' command shows ram ussage
[08:35] <RoundyT1> thechris, reanjr, shouldn't be hard to code, trying to learn stuff so i can contribute! woot. but yeah, you guys have any time?
[08:35] <file13> you use 8 gigs for a swap partition?!
[08:35] <n2diy> xtknight: why does the sun rise in the east? ;)
[08:35] <xtknight> lnxkde, okay good luck
[08:35] <file13> my laptop only has a 60gb HDD, i couldnt swing that
[08:35] <m0u5e> file13: it really dpends, i use anywhere from 1.5x - 2.0x my ram
[08:35] <thechris> RoundyT1: there is also #python.  do you have any specific Q's?
[08:35] <reanjr> n2diy: because we define the east to be the place the sun rises
[08:35] <xtknight> c0al, wait what's the exact error?
[08:35] <m0u5e> file13: if you have 4 gigs of ram, you probably don't need 8 gigs of space
[08:35] <file13> why are the benefits of the larger swap partiton, im not even sure what it does
[08:35] <m0u5e> file13: unless you're doing video editting and like to hib a lot... (which i dont recommend anyways)
[08:35] <xtknight> it just sits there and collects dust ;P
[08:36] <RoundyT1> thechris, well, how do i loop through a file ... say numbers.txt
[08:36] <file13> well i either have 512-1GB not sure, i dont see any my computer-esk properties option to check
[08:36] <JBandP> can i install webmin using apt-get install webmin
[08:36] <m0u5e> file13: i guess in M$ terms you can compare swap to VM
[08:36] <thechris> RoundyT1: how is the file formatted.  there is "for x in y.readlines():"
[08:36] <c0al> no errors, im just logging in and getting the same gnome settings... (my customized panel, background, etc...) and i can't figure out what config file i'm missing
[08:36] <dr_willis> file13,  the 'free' command shows ram ussage.
[08:36] <Phlosten> anyone here using Quanta+ and knows how to remove the lattice grid pattern that fills out indented code?
[08:36] <reanjr> file13: if your HD is big, just go with 4GB
[08:36] <xtknight> MS's term is page
[08:36] <xtknight> VM is for al lmemory
[08:36] <xtknight> in windows 98 VM was swap though it was incorrectly used
[08:36] <m0u5e> xtknight: ah, sorry yeah thats right
[08:36] <file13> 1gb of ram
[08:36] <xtknight> just a little gripe of mine :P
[08:36] <file13> but only a 60gb HDD
[08:36] <dr_willis> ive never seen much need for over 1gb of swap.. i tend to put a small swap partition on each hard drive.
[08:37] <dr_willis> file13,  go with 512 then
[08:37] <und3rtug4> 8GB swap.... love burning hdd space... :S
[08:37] <Keypad> Can some one help me, my live cd takes ages to boot...
[08:37] <dr_willis> You can add a swap file later if you want.
[08:37] <file13> well i could go for 1gb i suppose? if it would help things along a bit.
[08:37] <xtknight> nah i wouldnt call a swap file much help
[08:37] <c0al> egh, i'm gonna mess with it some more.. thanks for the help tho
[08:37] <m0u5e> file13: if you do 1gig you may not be able to hibernate
[08:37] <m0u5e> xtknight: some programs require more or less, depends on what you do and usage patterns
[08:37] <dr_willis> file13,  i doubt if younotice anything different from 512 to 1gb.
[08:38] <xtknight> ya it wont help things go faster tho
[08:38] <Keypad> I can install ubuntu via live cd, can I install it with out booting into it ?
[08:38] <xtknight> it's just knda a back store
[08:38] <Keypad> *cant
[08:38] <m0u5e> xtknight: if anything it'll make things go slower if your swappi is high lol
[08:38] <dr_willis> swap drive space is only used when its needed.. if your system is running stuff that dosent need all the ram.. it wont get used.
[08:38] <und3rtug4> Keypad, download the alternate install cd
[08:38] <m0u5e> keypad: use alt cd
[08:38] <und3rtug4> no live on that one!
[08:38] <reanjr> m0u5e:why would it run slower?
[08:39] <xtknight> dr_willis, just a "fun fact".  windows actually does something like a 50/50 split.  it uses page file while it's using physical
[08:39] <xtknight> linux probably does too
[08:39] <m0u5e> und3rtug4: i always ran into the annoying issue of the cd becoming part of the repos and it asking for the cd whenever i installed stuff, i disabled it always, but its darn annoying
[08:39] <xtknight> to a certain extent
[08:39] <file13> ok cuz im having to reinstall ubuntu and im gonna remake the swap and ext3 parition, i dunno if i have to delete the swap but i think itll be easier if i just delete evertying that isnt the 10gb XP partiton and start fresh on the ubuntu install
[08:39] <JBandP> kahrytan: apache and just a plain old storage server
[08:39] <m0u5e> reanjr: b/c if you have high swappi, your system will flush things from mem to swap as soon as they become idle after a certain period of time
[08:40] <xtknight> m0u5e, even if you have free phys ram?
[08:40] <xtknight> that doesnt make sense to me :P
[08:40] <m0u5e> xtknight: i think it depends on your swappi
[08:40] <reanjr> m0u5e: I thought it only used it as necessary on Linux...
[08:40] <xtknight> well actually it does.  free up space in phys as to allocate it for further foreground apps
[08:40] <xtknight> thats why windows NT does what it does
[08:40] <xtknight> 50/50 split
[08:41] <file13> And one quick question before i re-install. Is anyone a wireless guru that could answer something
[08:41] <xtknight> m0u5e,  vm.swappiness youre talking about?
[08:41] <reanjr> I've never actually seen my swap being used when i've checked
[08:41] <xtknight> the default 60 works great for me.  i set it to 100 and holycrap my system was slow ;P
[08:41] <m0u5e> xtknight: yeah >.<
[08:41] <reanjr> file13: no, but ask anyway
[08:42] <m0u5e> xtnight: my system only has 512mb ram so i had to raise my swappi a little
[08:42] <xtknight> file13, sorta a wireless guru i guess
[08:42] <Obled> holaaa
[08:42] <xtknight> file13, know nothing about wpa but i can give you a link to that
[08:42] <Obled> alguien habla espaol
[08:42] <xtknight> !es | Obled
[08:42] <ubotu> Obled: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:42] <file13> Well i did the steps in this forum...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=400236&highlight=edimax and now it had me delete the thing that lets me see available wireless networks
[08:42] <lietu> high swappiness causes the memory to be flushed to swap asap, freeing the physical memory for running applications and *cache*
[08:42] <file13> i can only join the network i add to the ini file or whatever
[08:42] <file13> and i was wondering if i could re-enable it after i get the wireless card to work
[08:42] <elnimr> how can i install wine
[08:43] <n2diy> Interesting question. In the old days, ram was fast, and hard drives were slow, so we had swap. Is that still the case?
[08:43] <buntunub> sudo apt-get install wine
[08:43] <reanjr> file13: I had all my problems with wireless go away by using NetworkManager nm-applet and gnome-keyring-manager
[08:43] <m0u5e> elnimr go to the wine website, it has instructions for ubuntu
[08:43] <xtknight> file13, you mean it had you remove network manager?
[08:43] <xtknight> file13, i dont know, that makes no sense to me.
[08:43] <lietu> n2diy: yes, ram is still fast and harddrives are still slow
[08:43] <m0u5e> buntunub: he first has to add the wine repos for the newest versions
[08:43] <file13> Yes, it removed the network manager
[08:43] <elnimr> does ubuntu have some sort of apt-get install wine
[08:43] <elnimr> ?
[08:43] <m0u5e> lietu: theres flash hd now :D
[08:43] <lietu> elnimr: ubuntu has apt-get
[08:43] <file13> But im not sure if it'll work if i just reinstall the network manager
[08:43] <xtknight> file13, maybe because it causes a race with ifconfig.  if not, you should be able to use it just fine afterwards (?)  why not post in the thread and ask?
[08:44] <kahrytan> !wine
[08:44] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:44] <buntunub> ya worked for me np
[08:44] <Safrole> Anyone know if .run binary files are supported by ubuntu?
[08:44] <Shyam> hi, i'm downloading GNOME ICON Theme..can Ubuntu support this?
[08:44] <linuxacolyspe> What are the best network monitoring software for Ubuntu?
[08:44] <m0u5e> elnimr: it does, but if you want the newest version, you have to get the wine repos
[08:44] <xtknight> Safrole, absoultely
[08:44] <lietu> m0u5e: actually, yeah, I heard that using flash plugs for swap is supposed to give a considerable speedup
[08:44] <xtknight> Safrole, an install script i assume?
[08:44] <buntunub> i got the latest and greatest version right after fresh buntu install doin that
[08:44] <file13> I did, didnt really get an answer and i bumped a few times. I dont wanna keep flooding the thread just cuz im a noob.
[08:44] <Safrole> ah very good.. I think so
[08:44] <xtknight> Safrole, chmod +x ./filename.run && ./filename.run
[08:44] <lietu> m0u5e: I'd be interested in seeing a usb disk raid array
[08:44] <m0u5e> lietu: expensive as heck, and small though :(
[08:44] <elnimr> well i tried apt-get install wine
[08:44] <elnimr> but nothing
[08:44] <Safrole> It's for a multiplayer first person shooter game
[08:44] <xtknight> elnimr, are you on AMD64?
[08:44] <reanjr> file13: what's your wireless card?
[08:44] <elnimr> yes
[08:44] <Safrole> I was surprised they had a linux version
[08:45] <m0u5e> lietu: should have a longer lifetime then conventional HDs too
[08:45] <xtknight> elnimr, then you may have to find debs elsewhere for WINE.  try WINe's official repository.  google it
[08:45] <lietu> m0u5e: yeah
[08:45] <file13> not sure of the model # to be exact but its an Addlogix USB wireless adapter, its like the only one they make
[08:45] <Shyam> hi, i'm downloading GNOME ICON Theme..can Ubuntu support this?
[08:45] <xtknight> perpendicular HDs are awesome too
[08:45] <lietu> no moving parts can do that ;)
[08:45] <xtknight> $110 for 500G
[08:45] <buntunub> did you try synaptic?
[08:45] <xtknight> i took ahold of that deal
[08:45] <xtknight> Shyam, yup do the same thing with themes.  drag and drop
[08:46] <m0u5e> is there an opensource team working on voice recognition?
[08:46] <tom__> Question UbuntuStudio: What might be a good link for 2.6.nn real time kernel smp howto?
[08:46] <Shyam> arghh.ok, xtknight
[08:46] <m0u5e> just out of curiosity :D
[08:46] <reanjr> file13: hmmm never done a USB one... do you know if the drivers are installed?
[08:46] <file13> http://addlogix.com/mac_products/embed.asp?stuff=se_mawlusb_body.html
[08:46] <xtknight> tom__, #ubuntu-studio ?
[08:46] <xtknight> tom__, pretty sure they had a wiki on it:
[08:46] <file13> well im on the wireless adapter now, i got it installed
[08:47] <lietu> m0u5e: I'm sure I found something like that some time ago
[08:47] <n2diy> mOu5e if they are, the should be on sourceforge.net
[08:47] <xtknight> tom__, ya https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime
[08:47] <lietu> m0u5e: just cant remember the name or anything ;)
[08:47] <file13> its just i wanna know if ill be able to scan because of the weird way that tutorial made me set it up
[08:47] <m0u5e> lietu: did it work well?
[08:47] <xtknight> file13, well "iwlist scan" can scan
[08:47] <lietu> well as I said, all I can remember is that I bumped into it, I never tried it or anything ;)
[08:47] <xtknight> file13, it just removed the pretty flashy GUI
[08:47] <m0u5e> lietu: hehe
[08:47] <xtknight> file13, and "iwconfig" can set options
[08:48] <tom__> xtknight: thanks
[08:48] <m0u5e> argh this is so frustrating, i have 2 gigs of unallocated space, but i cant resize my ext3 partition where /home is housed
[08:48] <xtknight> m0u5e, you *could* make a new partition and mount it under /home   not ideal, i know
[08:49] <file13> Well i was trying to get the internal to work but god forbid i could get a broadcom adapter working properly, and when i did the speed on it was horrible. So then i tried to find a thread where there was a card i could get out of the box, but my laptop doesnt have the PCMIA normal slot so that narrows the field drastically.
[08:49] <m0u5e> xtknight: yeah, i want it to be 1 uniform partition :(
[08:49] <user1> Hi, I am trying to install Ubuntu 7.04 on a laptop ( ASUS PRO31S), installation keeps falls to a shell -- (initramfs) and I cannot proceed further. Could any one help?
[08:49] <m0u5e> i mean, theres partition magic for windows... :(
[08:49] <lietu> user1: does it give you any errors?
[08:49] <xtknight> haha there's a bug in the "pi" package that prints pi
[08:49] <reanjr> m0u5e: IBM was supposed to open source their voice recognition some time ago
[08:49] <xtknight> now that's sad
[08:49] <xtknight> :)
[08:50] <user1> yes, it does
[08:50] <LordBrain> Anyone want to help me get my webcam working?
[08:50] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: You've tired gparted ?
[08:50] <user1> something like job controll and something to do with tty
[08:50] <IntuitiveNipple> s/tired/tried/
[08:50] <LordBrain> I'll send you $5 from paypal if it works
[08:50] <m0u5e> intuitivenipple: yeah, it won't allow me to skoot the partition to the beginning, and grow it
[08:50] <m0u5e> reanjr: "supposed to?" :D
[08:50] <lietu> hmm. I'd be interested to hear of a fix for this job control & tty stuff as so many people have complained about it
[08:50] <LordBrain> it is supposed to use the spca5xx driver i'm pretty sure
[08:50] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: You can't 'move' ext downwards, only grow it upwards
[08:51] <user1> I see
[08:51] <reanjr> m0u5e: Well, I remember reading they were going to, but never saw anything that said they did.  I know Opera uses their voice recognition, but I don't know how the licensing between them was handled
[08:51] <user1> I tried to install Windows XP it could not find my HDD!
[08:51] <Ailean> can anyone give me a working xorg.conf for an ati mobility radeon x1300 with native resolution of 1280 x 800?
[08:51] <m0u5e> intuitivenipple: and therein lies my problem ;_;
[08:51] <user1> my Harddisk is toshiba mk2035gss
[08:51] <reanjr> m0u5e: I've moved ext3 downwards with gparted before... *shrug*\
[08:51] <m0u5e> Ailean: ati is fickle, i avoid it at all costs
[08:52] <user1> could there be any problem with SATA disks?
[08:52] <m0u5e> reanjr: tell mle your secrets T_T
[08:52] <m0u5e> *me
[08:52] <IntuitiveNipple> m00foo: how much space is in-use on /home currently? Could you archive it to another partition, delete the current /home partition, recreate a new /home that takes up all the free space, and then put the data back?
[08:52] <Ailean> m0u5e this is my first ati. but i have it now
[08:52] <lietu> user1: have you tried booting with "debugging options" like nodma or noapic?
[08:52] <elnimr> i followed the instructions
[08:52] <elnimr> but still
[08:52] <reanjr> m0u5e: unfortunately, there was no secret, it just did it without fanfare (but it took a looooooooong time)
[08:52] <user1> yes
[08:52] <IntuitiveNipple> oops... that should be m0u5e
[08:52] <elnimr> ackage wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:52] <elnimr> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:52] <elnimr> is only available from another source
[08:52] <elnimr> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[08:52] <user1> always the same result
[08:53] <user1> though I havent tried nodma,
[08:53] <reanjr> m0u5e:maybe I had free space that it used during the process?
[08:53] <user1> noapci, apci=off or irqpoll etc
[08:53] <m0u5e> intuitivenipple: no space for move :(
[08:53] <lietu> ck
[08:53] <lietu> errh
[08:53] <lietu> acpi=off ?
[08:53] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: An external drive? Another PC?
[08:54] <user1> I think so, I tried apci=off or something
[08:54] <anakao> hi all
[08:54] <m0u5e> intuitiveNipple: i do have an external HD i can use, but the problem is, my /home is on it :x
[08:54] <lietu> user1: sorry, I'm out of ideas, I've seen many people complain about the same problem, but haven't seen any fixes to it
[08:54] <user1> Oh, I see.
[08:54] <elnimr> hello
[08:54] <m0u5e> intuitivenipple: i'd have to boot from a livecd (which I do have) but i'd have to re initialize home
[08:54] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: You have two /home mounts? Are they for different distros?
[08:54] <reanjr> m0u5e: I remember my coworker had a similar problem; he shrank some partitions to the minimum size needed to hold the data and tried again with success
[08:55] <user1> Do you know where I could follow on these ?
[08:55] <m0u5e> intuitivenipple: no oi just one /home mount
[08:55] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: You need to detail your configuration I think, it is sounding confusing!
[08:55] <matti> Morning :-)
[08:55] <anakao> can i install directx on ubuntu to use it with wine?
[08:56] <elnimr> what should i do now
[08:56] <reanjr> anakao: yes
[08:56] <buntunub> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine?highlight=%28wine%29
[08:56] <reanjr> anakao: it would be best to just install the app that needs it though
[08:56] <Ailean> can anyone give me a working xorg.conf for an ati mobility radeon x1300 with native resolution of 1280 x 800?
[08:56] <m0u5e> IntuitiveNipple: okay, /dev/sda1=ext3 6.00GB, /dev/sda2=linux-swap 2.00GB, /dev/sda3 = extended, unallocated 2.00GB, /dev/sda5=ext3 /home 17.95GB
[08:56] <anakao> ok, can u try for me a soft?
[08:57] <||drake||> i finally
[08:57] <||drake||> got my wireless working
[08:57] <reanjr> anakao: I don't have wine
[08:57] <||drake||> now, how do i stop xserver again?
[08:57] <anakao> i play chess on playchess.com but can't manage to install it
[08:57] <||drake||> its something ending in gdm stop
[08:57] <chalcedony> if i open .pdf fies, downloaded from a website, where are they?
[08:58] <reanjr> ||drake|| sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:58] <und3rtug4> ||drake|| : if it is an BCM card.... nuke the bastard! l00l :P
[08:58] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: you said /home is on an external drive... so is /dev/sda external, and is it the only drive on the PC?
[08:58] <fargiolas> hi i'm trying to convert a cd to mp3 with soundjuicer but i cannot chose mp3 profile and when i try to  manually edit profiles it crashes.. gnome-audio-profile-properties shows me a mp3 profile but it doesn't appear in the drop down menu of sound juicer? is it a know bug?
[08:58] <elnimr> i doesnt explain anything
[08:58] <m0u5e> IntuitiveNipple: no no, they're all on the local drive, i DO have an external i can use, but for all purposes, all the drives i just mentioned are on my local laptop HD
[08:59] <reanjr> chalcedony: depends on the browser; Firefox places them in some annoying place
[08:59] <reanjr> chalcedony:try "sudo updatedb; locate *.pdf"
[08:59] <chalcedony> reanjr: firefox, yes ..
[08:59] <m0u5e> intuitivenipple: when i mentioned the external, i meant that i have a way of backing up my data if i did have to reinitialize home
[08:59] <tonsofpcs> what is chalcedony doing now? :)
[09:00] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: Ahhhh! I thought from what you said /home was already on the external drive!
[09:00] <Obled> hi
[09:00] <tonsofpcs> hi
[09:00] <Obled> how r u?
[09:00] <chalcedony> tonsofpcs: if i find it, want an article on the IRS ?
[09:00] <tonsofpcs> chalcedony: uh, sure....
[09:00] <reanjr> One last try: totem changes my desktop background image.  Strange but true.  Anyone have any ideas?
[09:01] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: You're not using that much for /home (~17GB) so I'd set a password for root ("sudo su" then "passwd" then "exit" then log-out your user and log-in as root with the password)
[09:01] <reanjr> Good night all!
[09:01] <fargiolas> if any of you have some suggestions about other mp3 ripper/encoders they are welcome
[09:02] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: Then archive /home to the external drive with "tar -xjvf /media/external_drive/home.tar.bz2 /home"
[09:02] <lietu> fargiolas: lame is a good encoder
[09:02] <lietu> fargiolas: no idea about ripping tho
[09:03] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: Then check all your files are safe in that archive with "tar -tjvf /media/external_drive/home.tar.bz2"
[09:03] <fargiolas> lietu: i was looking for some gui solution that does everything at once
[09:03] <Ailean> guys, can someone PLEASE help me with this?  I've tried four times now and can't get X to start.  can anyone give me a working xorg.conf for an ati mobility radeon x1300 with native resolution of 1280 x 800?
[09:03] <berent> does anyone know how to mute sound of a UPS
[09:03] <lietu> fargiolas: sorry, no ideas
[09:03] <thechris> Ailean: what error do you get?
[09:03] <fargiolas> sound-juicer always worked fine but now it refuses to encode to mp3
[09:04] <lietu> Ailean: I think someone said mobility radeon x1300 requires the fgrlx drivers
[09:04] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: Then, "umount /home" then delete /dev/sda5 and the the extended partition (sd4) and recreate them using gparted or fdisk + mkfs.ext3 /dev/sd5
[09:04] <Ailean> thechris: no useable configurations
[09:04] <dem0n> hello
[09:04] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: Then, remount the bigger home "mount /dev/sda5 /home"
[09:04] <lietu> Ailean: have you tried the vesa and fglrx drivers?
[09:05] <thechris> Ailean: normally this is preceeded by "something not found/understood".  then the systems falls over to something else and fails.
[09:05] <m0u5e> m0u5e: i could tell gpart to specifiy the new partition as home right?
[09:05] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: and finally, "cd /; tar -xjvf /media/external_drive/home.tar.bz2
[09:05] <m0u5e> IntuitiveNipple: oops lol
[09:05] <Ailean> lietu: i was trying with vesa. i didn't think fglrx was compatible with ATI
[09:05] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: Yes... it might cause Nautilus mount it too, it depends on other settings
[09:05] <lietu> Ailean: fglrx is ONLY for ati ;)
[09:06] <Ailean> lietu ok i misunderstood
[09:06] <m0u5e> IntuitiveNipple: i would need alivecd for this @_@;
[09:06] <dem0n> I am haveing a problem with my apt-get option i keep getting this
[09:06] <Ailean> thechris it's to do with the refresh rates being out of range i THINK
[09:06] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: One correction to my typing... to compress the files I typed "x" when it ought to be "c" : "tar -cjvf /media/external_drive/home.tar.bz2 /home"
[09:06] <dem0n> opps there suppose to be a ling there
[09:07] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: No, you can do this from your current install, as I said, if you set a root password then log-in as root (so /home isn't in use)
[09:07] <dem0n> I am haveing a problem with my apt-get option i keep getting this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31631/
[09:07] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: root account's 'home' is /root not /home :)
[09:08] <m0u5e> IntuitiveNipple: okay thx :D, wait you said "cd/; tar -xjvf /media/external_drive/home.tar.bz2, do you mean for it to be cd /home/username.
[09:08] <db2k> ok im officially desperate - has anyone here encoded any x264 movies :/
[09:08] <db2k> please?
[09:08] <lietu> dem0n: check dmesg|tail and tail /var/log/messages ... it says "check syslog"
[09:09] <lietu> dem0n: those might give you a clue on why the clvm is failing to start
[09:09] <m0u5e> intuitiveNipple: hmmm okay thix ill try this as soon as i have access to my external HD (i don't have it handy at the moment) thanks!
[09:09] <IntuitiveNipple>  m0u5e No... "cd /" before unpacking the archive so the archive is unpacked in / - the paths inside it are /home/.... so it will end up in the correct place
[09:09] <dem0n> clvm?
[09:09] <m0u5e> intuitiveNipple: ah right!
[09:09] <IntuitiveNipple> :p It's easy when you know how *grin*
[09:09] <n2diy> ! clvm
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clvm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <m0u5e> intuitiveNipple: sigh this is gonna take a while, wonder why you can't move ext3 around like you can ntfs?
[09:09] <lietu> dem0n: lines 10-12 on your paste?
[09:10] <Shyam> i'm trying to install theme with .gz folder. Halfway error prompted "cannot install theme, there was a problem while extracting the theme"
[09:10] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: Because of the way it stores internal pointers
[09:10] <batrix> is there a way i can uninstall a device from the device manager because ubuntu installed my wireless card incorrectly and i can't even get it to work with ndiswrapper now because of it...?
[09:10] <m0u5e> intuitivenipple: you can't move it even if you werent resizing? :(
[09:10] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: Actually, for a 17GB drive, I'd expect it take about 10 minutes
[09:10] <dem0n> hmm there is alot of shit
[09:10] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: You can't move it down a drive, only up :)
[09:10] <dem0n> in /var/log/messages
[09:11] <m0u5e> intuitivenipple: why is that?
[09:11] <lietu> dem0n: yes, that's quite normal, as I said, something in there might tip you off on why clvm fails to start
[09:11] <lietu> as your paste says
[09:11] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: It's too early in the day to get that technical!
[09:11] <dem0n> idk what clvm is
[09:11] <Shyam> i'm trying to install theme with .gz folder. Halfway error prompted "cannot install theme, there was a problem while extracting the theme"
[09:11] <m0u5e> intuitivenipple: okay okay :D
[09:12] <dem0n> pm me please lietu
[09:12] <lietu> no, I wont
[09:12] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: The operation I've described shouldn't take more than 10 minutes unless the external drive is slow
[09:12] <dem0n> //
[09:12] <dem0n> ......
[09:12] <lietu> dem0n: if you'd bother to read that paste of yours, you would know that clvm is required by whatever you're trying to install
[09:14] <kahrytan> anyone need help?
[09:14] <tonsofpcs> yes.
[09:14] <kahrytan> with?
[09:14] <m0u5e> transfering 17 gigs alone will take me a while :X
[09:15] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: It won't be 17GB once it is compressed, unless it is mostly random data
[09:15] <tonsofpcs> kahrytan: I don't know, but there's someone on another network that within 1 second of when you asked that asked if anyone was available to help, so i figured s/he must need help.
[09:15] <kahrytan> m0u5e: on ide?
[09:15] <m0u5e> kahrytan: usb
[09:16] <IntuitiveNipple> I encrypted an external USB2 160GB drive recently from /dev/urandom - that took almost 24 hours :)
[09:16] <kahrytan> I got hundreds of bookmarks
[09:16] <celina> how to check which ubuntu version do i have?
[09:16] <kahrytan> I have to sort them all
[09:17] <IntuitiveNipple> celina: lsb_release -d
[09:18] <Sin^> heya peeps
[09:18] <RiCCo69>  hey is anyone alive that can help me install ubuntu? do I have to partition my drive? and I made a ubuntu disk that install the progs while in windows but I cant boot from cd.. any ideas?
[09:19] <RiCCo69> i know I burned the cd right because i CAN INSTALL programs in windows off of it
[09:19] <tonsofpcs> yes.  maybe.  how did you make it?
[09:19] <Sin^> is your bios set to boot from cd rom 1st?
[09:19] <RiCCo69> un rar'd it
[09:19] <RiCCo69> copyed to d:
[09:19] <RiCCo69>  and burned it
[09:19] <tonsofpcs> unrared what?
[09:20] <tonsofpcs> and copied what?
[09:20] <RiCCo69> sory
[09:20] <Sin^> did you unzip the iso file?
[09:20] <anakao> why debian would be better than ubuntu?
[09:20] <RiCCo69> I d-loaded the compressed version of it off of ubuntu
[09:20] <tonsofpcs> Sin^: yea, I think that's what happened
[09:20] <tonsofpcs> RiCCo69: link?
[09:20] <Sin^> lol... sounds like it
[09:21] <tonsofpcs> RiCCo69: what is the original "compressed" filename?
[09:21] <lietu> RiCCo69: and did this "compressed version" have a .iso extension?
[09:21] <RiCCo69> yeah man like I said I burned it and I can install programs in windows
[09:21] <RiCCo69> no
[09:21] <tonsofpcs> [and how do you install windows software off the ubuntu cd?] 
[09:21] <RiCCo69> i have firefox and clamwin installed in windows
[09:21] <lietu> RiCCo69: please answer tonsofpcs' question
[09:22] <lietu> RiCCo69: what was the original filename of the "compressed" file?
[09:22] <RiCCo69> oh just a sec
[09:22] <sysadmin_> !help
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[09:23] <Sin^> does anyone know the process of updating nvidia drivers in dapper..... it tells me to exit xserver?
[09:23] <RiCCo69> ubuntu 7.04 desktop.iso
[09:23] <IntuitiveNipple> Sin^: You need to exit the X-server so the drivers it is using can be replaced.
[09:24] <Sin^> ok ricco.... you need to burn the iso file.... not unrar it
[09:24] <RiCCo69> oh no shit
[09:24] <Sin^> think of the iso file as an image file
[09:24] <RiCCo69> how does that work as a boot disk though
[09:24] <RiCCo69> oh k
[09:24] <RiCCo69> any special prog I need to burn it with
[09:24] <RiCCo69> or can i copy paste burn
[09:24] <Sin^> nero should do it
[09:25] <Sin^> burn from image.... selecting the iso file as the image
[09:25] <RiCCo69> allright
[09:25] <RiCCo69> thanx for the help
[09:25] <Sin^> np
[09:25] <nanoteker> anyone here able to get feisty fawn on parallels?
[09:25] <nanoteker> intelmac
[09:25] <elmajico> I need help getting sound out of my speakers, the card seems to be recognized by default, but no sound, can anyone point me to a helpful article?
[09:25] <RiCCo69> do I need to partion my hd though to install?
[09:25] <dawkirst> Hello guys, if I was looking for a quality laptop which I'm mainly going to use for software development (nothing heavy), would you suggest Dell or Lenovo, or something completely different? (also posted in ##hardware)
[09:26] <Shyam> i'm trying to install theme with .gz folder. Halfway error prompted "cannot install theme, there was a problem while extracting the theme"
[09:26] <Abu_Hamza> RiCCo69: use CDBurnerXP, it's free
[09:26] <Abu_Hamza> RiCCo69: and man, read some install documentation or how-to-burn documentations
[09:26] <Lo_Pan> nanoteker: i run it in xen and vmware, parallels should run it
[09:26] <IntuitiveNipple> dawkirst: What kind of software development?
[09:26] <RiCCo69> thanx abu
[09:26] <Abu_Hamza> RiCCo69: no prob
[09:26] <IntuitiveNipple> such helpful clerics around here :)
[09:27] <Sin^> my linux intelligence level is about to drop here...... how does one shut down xserver ?? :|
[09:27] <IntuitiveNipple> Sin^: Are you installing the Nvidia driver from Nvidia's web-site?
[09:27] <dawkirst> IntuitiveNipple, some .NET and some scripting and web development.
[09:27] <Sin^> yup
[09:27] <IntuitiveNipple> dawkirst: So mainly you'll be doing source-code editing rather than heavy builds?
[09:27] <browndog> Anyone know why I can't get Firefox to open windows in a new tab...even when I specify that in preferences it still opens new windows.
[09:28] <IntuitiveNipple> Sin^: Ok, so you have a shell file to run called something like Nvidia...........run ?
[09:28] <dawkirst> IntuitiveNipple, you could say so.
[09:28] <Sin^> yes
[09:29] <IntuitiveNipple> dawkirst: Well, anything will do for that kind of thing. If you were going to be building the linux kernel I'd recommend a good powerful Core2 Duo
[09:30] <lietu> Sin^: do you need to shut it down or restart it?
[09:30] <Sin^> yes i have the nvidia-linux-x86 run file
[09:30] <lietu> for shutting down, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:30] <lietu> for restarting, press ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:30] <Sin^> shut down xserver
[09:31] <dawkirst> IntuitiveNipple, thanks!
[09:31] <IntuitiveNipple> Sin^: Okay, you switch away from the X terminal using Alt+Ctrl+F1 to a tty, log-in, then stop X using "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" then install the Nvidia driver by running the file as root "sudo ./Nvidia.........run" and follow its instructions. When it is done, restart X using "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[09:31] <nanoteker> can anyone help with my parallels install?
[09:32] <Sin^> does this log me out of kde desktop?
[09:32] <IntuitiveNipple> Sin^: Eeeek, you're on kbuntu no ubuntu
[09:32] <elmajico> could somone tell me how i use this script: (trying to get my sound to work) http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu.devel.kernel.general/2006-03/msg00022.html
[09:32] <lietu> Sin^: it most likely will just kill it, effectively logging you out, but wont save anything
[09:32] <Sin^> lol... nah ubuntu
[09:32] <IntuitiveNipple> Sin^: in that case, replace all my "gdm" with "kdm" (can someone who uses kbuntu confirm that is correct?)
[09:32] <gh0stX> my xorg.conf whent startx'd gives the error cannot load module NVIDIA but when i change the line Driver "nvidia" to "vesa" works just fine. any ideas ??
[09:32] <IntuitiveNipple> Sin^: Grrrrrrrrr
[09:33] <Sin^> lol.... ok.... bbl...... i hope
[09:33] <IntuitiveNipple> :p
[09:33] <||drake||> gh0stX: what video card do you have>
[09:33] <lietu> gh0stX: do you have the nvidia restricted drivers installed? have you checked dmesg|tail?
[09:33] <PF|Ubuntu> Ok Ive got one of my HDs mounted but it's permissions are listed as root. I did sudo chown -hR brandon:brandon /media/disk, but it didnt change the permissions. What do I need to do?
[09:34] <lietu> PF|Ubuntu: what filesystem does that disk have?
[09:34] <lietu> ntfs?
[09:34] <PF|Ubuntu> no
[09:34] <PF|Ubuntu> reiser
[09:34] <bullgard4> Is there a review or tutorial on implementing ACPI in the Linux kernel?
[09:34] <||drake||> lietu: hey, i downloaded the nvidia driver from here (http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_100.14.09.html)
[09:34] <IntuitiveNipple> bullgard4: The tutorial is in the ACPI source code, mostly :)
[09:34] <gh0stX> lietu, yeah i have the restricted drivers
[09:34] <||drake||> lietu: and now to install it, i need to exit out of X
[09:34] <PF|Ubuntu> lietu, it's ReiserFS
[09:34] <||drake||> lietu: how do i do that?
[09:35] <IntuitiveNipple> bullgard4: Plus the ACPI version 3.0 specification
[09:35] <lietu> ||drake||: and you're talking only to me, why exactly?
[09:35] <||drake||> lietu: i forgot the command, and ctrl+alt+backspace dont work no more
[09:35] <||drake||> lietu: you're already on the topic of nVidia drivers?
[09:35] <lietu> PF|Ubuntu: and you dont get any errors? is the drive mounted read+write and not readonly? check mount|grep /media/disk for "ro" or "rw"
[09:35] <gh0stX> ||drake||, msi7600GT it uses nvidia chipset
[09:35] <elmajico> could somone please reference me to some help on my sound issue
[09:35] <lietu> ||drake||: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:36] <lietu> ||drake||: to get it back up, use "start" instead of "stop
[09:36] <PF|Ubuntu> it's mounted read/write
[09:36] <bullgard4> IntuitiveNipple: How can you say that  the ACPI version 3.0 specification is a tutorial? I suspect that you never tried to study it.
[09:36] <PF|Ubuntu> I put it in the fstab earlier
[09:36] <||drake||> lietu: i've tried that, but when i reboot, it acts like i didnt change anyhting
[09:36] <IntuitiveNipple> bullgard4: I'm a linux kernel ACPI developer!
[09:36] <||drake||> gh0stX: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_100.14.11.html
[09:36] <IntuitiveNipple> bullgard4: I probably know it in my sleep :)
[09:36] <lietu> hmmm
[09:37] <||drake||> gh0stX: go there and follow those instructions
[09:37] <bullgard4> IntuitiveNipple: Excellent!
[09:37] <||drake||> lietu: it used to work, but now i had to go into the 2.6.22-8 kernel to get my wireless working
[09:37] <lietu> PF|Ubuntu: sounds like black magic is involved
[09:37] <IntuitiveNipple> bullgard4: ACPI isn't meant to be easy, it is a hardware-level abstraction... its not like application programming
[09:37] <PF|Ubuntu> lietu, lol
[09:37] <lietu> ||drake||: well you asked how to exit X, I answered that, that's all I'm going to do now, am no expert on nvidia drivers
[09:38] <gh0stX> ||drake||, thanks
[09:38] <PF|Ubuntu> lietu, I just did the same on /dev/hdf1 also, which is the dev of the HD
[09:38] <||drake||> lietu: which means my typical command to get Ubuntu to boot (modprobe piix) no longer works... ubuntu will still boot when i type "exit" at the initramfs, but it won't load nvidia ish
[09:38] <||drake||> lietu: alright
[09:38] <user1> Hi, I am trying to install Ubuntu 7.04 on my laptop. But X could not be configured and so I am left with a shell prompt. Could anyone help me to start/continue my installation ?
[09:38] <PF|Ubuntu> lietu, changing perms on the /dev worked
[09:38] <lietu> PF|Ubuntu: have you tried that chown under sudo su - ? dont think it makes a difference, but... atleast it should show you errors if it didn't work
[09:38] <IntuitiveNipple> PF|Ubuntu: the user is set by the "mount" options you use when issuing the mount command manually, or when fstab is read, so check your fstab and also read the mount manual
[09:39] <PF|Ubuntu> lietu, I did sudo -s and switched to root, then did the chown
[09:39] <lietu> IntuitiveNipple: I doubt that is the case with reiserfs
[09:39] <lietu> IntuitiveNipple: only with "non-unix" filesystems
[09:39] <PF|Ubuntu> lietu, I'll umount and remount to test
[09:39] <IntuitiveNipple> lietu: its managed by the VFS isn't it?
[09:40] <lietu> PF|Ubuntu: you dont have a user set in the mount options, do you? ;)
[09:40] <PF|Ubuntu> lietu, no
[09:40] <lietu> then it shouldn't be a problem
[09:40] <IntuitiveNipple> If there is no user set, and the system does the mount, then it will take root as the owner usually. If you mount manually from a user, it'll mount as that user
[09:40] <lietu> have you tried commenting out the fstab line and manually mounting ?
[09:41] <lietu> IntuitiveNipple: with reiser, ext3 etc the filesystem includes the owner information, thus it should never assume only one user controls all files
[09:41] <PF|Ubuntu> lietu, I just remounted using sudo mount and the perms are assigned to me, not root
[09:42] <IntuitiveNipple> lietu: Hmmm, then my USB-key ext3s need a kick up the jacksie then!
[09:42] <lietu> dunno if ubuntu has managed to screw up something as basic as preserving file permissions on normal unix fses
[09:42] <PF|Ubuntu> lietu, so I guess whatever I did worked
[09:42] <celina> i cant connect to my wireless. When im choosing my network from the tray it says that security settings are not handled by the device
[09:42] <PF|Ubuntu> also
[09:42] <lietu> PF|Ubuntu: well, I guess something did it ;)
[09:42] <PF|Ubuntu> is there a way to start Piding on startup
[09:42] <PF|Ubuntu> Pidgin*
[09:42] <lietu> system->preferences->sessions
[09:42] <lietu> is one way atleast
[09:42] <celina> i cant connect to my wireless. When im choosing my network from the tray it says that security settings are not handled by the device
[09:43] <lietu> !repeat | celina
[09:43] <ubotu> celina: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:43] <PF|Ubuntu> lietu, what would I use as command?
[09:43] <celina> i just got disconnected while trying so i thought that you didnt recieve it  : /
[09:43] <PF|Ubuntu> just "pidgin"?
[09:43] <lietu> most propably, yes
[09:43] <PF|Ubuntu> ok
[09:44] <lietu> I aint got any idea what pidgin is, but if it's a normal app, you should be able to check that in the shortcut
[09:44] <winnerx> hi and welcome from turkey
[09:44] <dgib> pidgin is cool
[09:44] <darcwader> /who winnerx
[09:44] <winnerx> i from turkey
[09:44] <bullgard4> IntuitiveNipple: What language is the code of http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/13204/? Is it the ACPI language?
[09:44] <winnerx> my name is hakan
[09:45] <winnerx> i want to ask only one question
[09:45] <lietu> !ot | winnerx
[09:45] <ubotu> winnerx: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:45] <IntuitiveNipple> bullgard4: ASL (ACPI source language)
[09:45] <dgib> anyone know where to get drivers for the sound blaster extigy?
[09:45] <lietu> ha! I've mastered the most useful !commands already ;)
[09:46] <winnerx> i'm using ubuntu
[09:46] <winnerx> do you know how can i use asp files like windows iis
[09:46] <lietu> dgib: check alsa-project.org ... see if it's supported, if it is, you have the drivers, if it's not, you can't get the drivers
[09:46] <PF|Ubuntu> lietu, I have an ornery dir that wont delete from the Trash
[09:46] <lietu> dgib: in linux world you generally either have the drivers already, or will never get them, the companies VERY rarely provide any drivers... ati and nvidia being rare exceptions
[09:46] <IntuitiveNipple> winnerx: There are ASP extensions for Apache, try Googling
[09:47] <PF|Ubuntu> says I dont have permission to modify parent folder
[09:47] <PF|Ubuntu> it came from the drive I just changed the perms on
[09:47] <winnerx> thanks
[09:47] <bullgard4> IntuitiveNipple: Where is the ASL defined and described? In the ACPI 3.0a specification document?
[09:47] <PF|Ubuntu> nevermind
[09:47] <PF|Ubuntu> Im an idiot
[09:47] <IntuitiveNipple> bullgard4: Yes
[09:47] <PF|Ubuntu> >_>
[09:48] <lietu> PF|Ubuntu: hehe, fine enough ;)
[09:48] <PF|Ubuntu> I had to click "Apply to enclosed files"
[09:48] <PF|Ubuntu> That's one thing I dont like about Ubuntu
[09:48] <PF|Ubuntu> Simple crap like that will confound me for hours
[09:48] <IntuitiveNipple> bullgard4: Remember, it is a compiled byte-code language like Java... it compiles to AML which is then interpreted by the operating system parser at runtime
[09:48] <PF|Ubuntu> Other than that, it's good :)
[09:49] <aisman> you just have to get used to linux :)
[09:49] <lietu> oh well, if you want examples of "simple crap like that" from windows world, I've fought HOURS trying to get windows xp install to start, finally ending up with the solution that it didn't like how my harddisk was partitioned so it just HUNG without any explanation
[09:49] <lietu> ;)
[09:49] <aisman> lawl
[09:49] <lietu> hours being 4+
[09:49] <aisman> windows always fails without warning
[09:49] <bullgard4> IntuitiveNipple: Thank you for explaining. As I am new to this stuff I will need time to fully comprehend what you just told me.
[09:49] <aisman> and besides, takes WAY longer than ubuntu to install
[09:49] <IntuitiveNipple> You guys must install some crap to have all those problems :p
[09:50] <aisman> besides, i luv Adept and Synaptic
[09:50] <IntuitiveNipple> bullgard4: If you don't have a background in assembly-level and hardware development, it can be difficult because the concepts are related to hardware rather than software
[09:50] <aisman> i dont have to be looking for programs all around dodgy websites and stuff
[09:50] <aisman> ugh... assembly...
[09:51] <aisman> assembly is like SQL in the syntax
[09:51] <aisman> way too simple :S
[09:51] <IntuitiveNipple> Without it, you'd be without a PC, so hush!
[09:51] <bullgard4> IntuitiveNipple: I do have a background in assembly language and hardware development.
[09:52] <IntuitiveNipple> bullgard4: Well, you'll not have such a steep learning curve then :)
[09:52] <aisman> i know
[09:52] <aisman> and also theres around a OS which is completely written in assembly
[09:52] <aisman> which is crazy
[09:52] <aisman> fits on a floppy
[09:52] <aisman> lawl
[09:53] <bullgard4> If called, what values does the particular _BIF method in http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/13204/ return to the calling procedure?
[09:53] <bullgard4> IntuitiveNipple: If called, what values does the particular _BIF method in http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/13204/ return to the calling procedure?
[09:54] <IntuitiveNipple> bullgard4: It returns the Battery Information Package
[09:55] <intelikey> i think my kernel preemption is wrong or my hd is to slow...  music "stutters" some times.
[09:55] <IntuitiveNipple> bullgard4: see the ACPI spec 10.2.2.1
[09:57] <intelikey> any advice ???
[09:57] <bullgard4> IntuitiveNipple: What method will return the _dynamic_ Control Method Battery information?
[09:58] <lietu> bullgard4: IntuitiveNipple, isn't this rather offtopic? ;)
[09:58] <bullgard4> lietu: This is Ubuntu.
[09:58] <intelikey> lietu offtopic ?
[09:59] <IntuitiveNipple> lietu: It's Ubuntu kernel
[09:59] <lietu> intelikey: increse your sound buffer in your favorite player? ;)
[09:59] <n2diy> bullgard4: but isn't how Ubuntu handles battry management on topic?
[09:59] <intelikey> lietu hmmmm i'll see if sox supports that
[10:00] <intelikey> lietu sox doesn't seem to support that
[10:00] <magnetron> intelikey: you have that problem due to some bug in the CPU scheduler in the kernel, i guess. please file a bug in launchpad
[10:00] <IntuitiveNipple> bullgard4: See the spec, 10.2.2
[10:00] <lietu> intelikey: you could also try renice -15 pidofyourplayer
[10:00] <lietu> intelikey: if that fixes it, it's propably some problem with the load and/or poor buffering
[10:01] <IntuitiveNipple> bullgard4: usually its _BST or _STA
[10:01] <magnetron> This is the support channel. support questions and answers are ontopic. for random chatter, go to #ubuntu-offtopic . welcome!
[10:01] <intelikey> magnetron yeah it's probably kernel,   the 2.6.15-28 didn't do that  but this  2.4.27-2-k6  does.
[10:02] <magnetron> intelikey: please condiser filing a bug report
[10:02] <bullgard4> IntuitiveNipple: Yes indeed. Thank you very much. I will later read carefully the sections on _BST and _STA.
[10:03] <intelikey> magnetron do you think anyone will look at a bug report on the older kernels ?
[10:03] <IntuitiveNipple> Unlikely indeed
[10:03] <Jamesinator> I'm connecting to a remote box via SSH on root, and when I to run "su (username)", I get the error: "Cannot execute /bin/bash: Permission denied"
[10:03] <IntuitiveNipple> Even pretty serious stuff affecting Dapper LTS is debated hotly and often not backported
[10:04] <n2diy> why not ask them? #ubuntu-kernel.
[10:04] <bullgard4> n2diy: I do not understand your question. Please say it in other words.
[10:04] <aisman> jamesinator, probably your account does not have execute/read permissions on that remote box
[10:04] <IntuitiveNipple> bullgard4: I think n2diy's question was meant for someone else, not you :)
[10:04] <n2diy> bullgard4: Battery management is a function of the operating system, so it is on topic for Ubuntu.
[10:04] <intelikey> Jamesinator ls -ld /bin ;ls -l /bin/bash   the user may not have premission.
[10:05] <bullgard4> n2diy: I fully agree with you.
[10:05] <IntuitiveNipple> He answered apparently in response to lietu
[10:05] <lietu> who what where?
[10:05] <IntuitiveNipple> lol
[10:06] <n2diy> bullgard4: ok, I think IntuitiveNipple is right, I responded to the wrong post, sorry.
[10:06] <zafer> hey guys
[10:06] <IntuitiveNipple> It's so easy to get confused in chat with so much scrolling by
[10:06] <zafer> i just resintalled feisty
[10:06] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: roger that!
[10:06] <magnetron> congratulations, zafer
[10:06] <intelikey> IntuitiveNipple i'll second that
[10:06] <zafer> i know that ther is a package that you can install that will install almost all of your multimedia needs including flash stuff for firefox and streaming vids
[10:06] <zafer> i forget what the package is though
[10:06] <zafer> can anyone help me
[10:06] <zafer> ?
[10:07] <aisman> look for it in synaptic
[10:07] <kazim51> zafer: easyubuntu ?
[10:07] <magnetron> zafer: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:07] <Bulli> compiz-fusion kicks ass :-)
[10:07] <well_willy> hallo
[10:07] <magnetron> !easyubuntu | kazim51
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[10:07] <magnetron> !traffic
[10:07] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[10:08] <IntuitiveNipple> you call *this* a lot of traffic... boy o boy, wait until it gets going!
[10:08] <aisman> global: lawl
[10:08] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: Yea, we aren't even at 1100 users.
[10:09] <IntuitiveNipple> 1100 out of 6 million isn't bad :)
[10:09] <aisman> hahaha
[10:09] <jombee> ubuntu server in a vm running vsftp not connecting
[10:09] <IntuitiveNipple> gods help us if they all turned up at once!
[10:09] <aisman> O.O
[10:09] <jombee> even from within the server it doesn't work
[10:09] <magnetron> someone were complaining about to much text scrolling by. i can handle it.
[10:09] <aisman> we would probably have a netsplit
[10:10] <ianmcorvidae> Or just crash FreeNode :P
[10:10] <aisman> lawl
[10:10] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: :0 Roger that, wasn't long ago I thought 1000 users were heavy traffic.
[10:10] <IntuitiveNipple> I'll take their coats, you can had out the free drinks :)
[10:10] <ianmcorvidae> Nah, actually that's unlikely.
[10:10] <ianmcorvidae> But yeah.
[10:10] <aisman> and lag isnt bad, just 0.1s
[10:11] <IntuitiveNipple> I feel like letting off steam... I've spent the past week debugging an obscure ACPI suspend/resume bug, only to find just now that it doesn't happen on an identical notebook with same BIOS and kernel!
[10:11] <kazim51> 1015 users can mean two things.. .either Ubuntu is too friendly... or too diificult to work with
[10:11] <n2diy> ! acpi
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:11] <jombee> could mean people don't remember to log out
[10:11] <intelikey> aisman 6m users in one channel = server crash  ~= net split
[10:11] <IntuitiveNipple> Whats worse is, the debugging code I am using reports identical values on both!, grrrr
[10:12] <IntuitiveNipple> ACPI = Advanced Control & Power Interface
[10:12] <aisman> intelikey: i know, probably this thing would even have a DoS from that many connections
[10:12] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: ramtest86?
[10:12] <magnetron> kazim51: or maybe only 1000 of us could figure out how to install an IRC client
[10:12] <aisman> Intuitive: just start playing Grand Theft Auto or some FPS game
[10:12] <IntuitiveNipple> n2diy: oh I wish it were that simple!
[10:13] <aisman> magnetron: lawl
[10:13] <bullgard4> IntuitiveNipple: What routine will usually call _BIF?
[10:13] <intelikey> magnetron irc client is installed by default even on the server install
[10:13] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: ok, roger on ACPI, that sound like it is buggy to begin with? But I haven't had to play with it.
[10:13] <Pbl0> magnetron: or maybe only 1000 of those who figured out how to install an irc client couldn't figure out how to part channels
[10:13] <aisman> lawl
[10:14] <IntuitiveNipple> n2diy: No, it's something todo with a wake event being fired by the hardware as soon as it goes to sleep... looks like the PM Timer isn't being disabled, but its extremely hard to pin down since you can't debug the code at this level. all you can do is add debug messages to report the state of the registers and so forth
[10:14] <aisman> do someone remembers that bug of the "/join 0"?
[10:14] <magnetron> this is getting offtopic
[10:14] <aisman> quite like yes :)
[10:14] <IntuitiveNipple> bullgard4: Certain functions within the ACPI battery and power driver
[10:14] <intelikey> aisman i rememver one of /dcc send something
[10:14] <IntuitiveNipple> bullgard4: They also populate the /proc/acpi/battery nodes
[10:14] <magnetron>  #ubuntu-offtopic have some nice chatters, aisman
[10:15] <aisman> magnetron: i pass, i love dev talking
[10:15] <magnetron> we HAVE dev talking
[10:15] <zafer> hey guys i have an elemnts keyboard...it has a lil mouse scroll wheeland some other buttons....i cant get those to work in feisty....i especially want the mouse scroll wheel on the keyboard to work....does anyone know how to make the ELEMNTS lkeyboard to work?
[10:15] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: ok, sounds like something the desktop does here. Sometimes the mouse wakes up the system right away, other times, I have to wait a minute or two for it. Very annoying.
[10:16] <aisman> i know, thats why i just slapped myself and got back on hearing these guys :)
[10:16] <intelikey> !winkeys
[10:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winkeys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:17] <IntuitiveNipple> n2diy: Yeah, we've got a huge stack of these kind of issues in launchpad to resolve and they're so time consuming!
[10:17] <bullgard4> IntuitiveNipple: "detlef@MD97600:~$ lsmod | grep battery; battery                10756  1" So you refer to my module 'battery' don't you?
[10:17] <bullgard4> IntuitiveNipple: What do you mean with 'power driver'?
[10:18] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: Roger that, good luck, if you need some help from a Perl newbie, let me know. :)
[10:18] <wertigo8888> hi to all
[10:18] <dBgBdWolf> can anyone give me some lvm+raid love during installation?
[10:19] <capiira> hmm hi is the arrange items by ... in nautilus broken ?
[10:19] <capiira> when i select by type or anything else in the nautilus computer where drive icons is diplayed nothing changes
[10:19] <capiira> just manually and reverse order works
[10:19] <IntuitiveNipple> I think we need about another 20 people just for suspend/resume issues especially with the focus on mobile
[10:20] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: Where do you need them, #?
[10:21] <IntuitiveNipple> n2diy: No, kernel-level specialists to debug and fix (ubuntu kernel ACPI tema)
[10:21] <IntuitiveNipple> s/tema/team/
[10:22] <matysek> i can't see an icons and i cannot click on desktop in gnome, but i can do everything else... how can i turn on my desktop again?
[10:22] <IntuitiveNipple> Its the one area where users justifiable get fed up when Windows can handle suspend so well
[10:22] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: Well #ubuntu-kernel exsists already.
[10:22] <LiberCogito> matysek: Have you tried restarting your xserver?
[10:22] <matysek> LiberCogito: i restarted the computer, and nothing happened
[10:23] <IntuitiveNipple> n2diy: Yes, thats just our chat channel... I was on about needing experts at fixing the kernel-code
[10:23] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: They appear to be napping now.
[10:23] <bullgard4> IntuitiveNipple: Through what forums do Ubuntu kernel ACPI afficionados communicate? Only through the mailing list linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org?
[10:24] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: Well #ubuntu-kernel is supposedly where the developers hang out, no?
[10:24] <IntuitiveNipple> bullgard4: Ubuntu has a kernel ACPI Team ... https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-kernel-acpi
[10:24] <wertigo8888> can you help me with Ubuntu desktop... How can I change the desktop icon visualization?
[10:24] <IntuitiveNipple> n2diy: yes, we do... there's only 3 of us working on ACPI
[10:25] <dissection> How do I get the name of the ethernet device in the terminal?
[10:25] <Bogaurd> when I print from firefox, the margins and such seem to be way out... all of the titles & page numbers are off the page, yet when I print a test page from ubuntu, the margins are fine...
[10:25] <matysek> i can't see any icons and i cannot click on desktop in gnome; well i can, but nothing happen. but i can do everything else... how can i turn on my desktop again?
[10:25] <aisman> bogaurd: thats a bug in firefox, if you are using 1.5 version better upgrade to 2.0
[10:26] <Bogaurd> aisman: I am using 2.0...
[10:26] <Bogaurd> aisman: what else can I try to fix it?
[10:26] <aisman> bogaurd: dunno, thats an old bug, be back in 5, got stuff to do
[10:26] <Bogaurd> aisman: thanks :)
[10:27] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: Ok, so lets say you found a newbie, who has only polluted is knowledge with Qbasic, and Perl/CGI, and you wanted to mentor him, to become a player in #ubuntu-kernel, where would you send him for education?
[10:27] <bullgard4> IntuitiveNipple: May I again ask you: What do you mean with 'power driver'?
[10:27] <IntuitiveNipple> n2diy: I think the poor guy would need sending to psychiatrist for even thinking about it :)
[10:28] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: poor me! :)
[10:28] <IntuitiveNipple> n2diy: It's an incredibly steep learning-curve, and has to cover not just a thorough understanding of ACPI but how the rest of the kernel and applications interact and affect the suspend/hibernate/resume process
[10:29] <IntuitiveNipple> n2diy: It's at least 6 months of immersion to get close
[10:29] <IntuitiveNipple> bullgard4: The various modules within the ACPI driver... battery is one, and there's some generic 'power' related stuff too
[10:29] <kazim51> firefox doesn't play embedded wmv.... it plays mpg etc...
[10:30] <kazim51> the mplayer plugin won't play wmv.. .what should I do?
[10:30] <IntuitiveNipple> bullgard4: acpi/battery.c and acpi/power.c for example
[10:30] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: Roger that, I'll continue my other studies then. :(
[10:30] <n2diy> :(/:)
[10:31] <IntuitiveNipple> hehehe
[10:31] <IntuitiveNipple> You don't know how easy you have it :p
[10:31] <alesan> I'm using kubuntu, how do I install a complete version of gnome so that I can play with it?
[10:32] <IntuitiveNipple> alesan: I *think* but someone else might confirm, you do "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[10:32] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: Who me!?!? Umm, I "try" to help out here, but... Things get challenging.
[10:32] <Gartral> hi all
[10:32] <IntuitiveNipple> n2diy: After a while it numbs the brain doesn't it?
[10:32] <alesan> IntuitiveNipple, well I guess that will "delete" my KDE, won't it?
[10:32] <alesan> if not delete, at least replace it
[10:32] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: Who me!?!? What?
[10:33] <IntuitiveNipple> alesan: I wouldn't have thought so, isn't kde "kbuntu-desktop" ?
[10:33] <N[i] X> hello....   i cant seem to get my ipod to play on my new installed ubuntu... what program should i use?
[10:33] <pawan> hi
[10:33] <bullgard4> http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/13206/ Does this list comprise all my 'power drivers' you mentioned?
[10:33] <pawan> any new screensavers
[10:33] <IntuitiveNipple> N[i] X: Banshee or Rhythmbox, or gtkpod if you want to sync
[10:34] <bullgard4> IntuitiveNipple:  http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/13206/ Does this list comprise all my 'power drivers' you mentioned?
[10:34] <N[i] X> intuitivenupple: it is rhythmbox that i am using, its that when i press play it wont play anything and skips to the next song till it gets to the end
[10:34] <IntuitiveNipple> bullgard4: No, because the ACPI driver 'modules' are compiled into the kernel, they're no loadable modules
[10:34] <IntuitiveNipple> bullgard4: You need to look at the kernel source (drivers/acpi/)
[10:34] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: What numbs me is why everybody wants to play with Edgy, Feisty, and Gutsy? Dapper works!
[10:34] <IntuitiveNipple> n2diy: pffft :
[10:35] <bullgard4> IntuitiveNipple: Understood.
[10:35] <dissection> Can someone please tell me the command to display the *real* name (not eth0) of my network adapter?
[10:36] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: pfft yourself, Dapper works! :)
[10:36] <bullgard4> n2diy: What a nonsense. Only Ubuntu 7.04 works on this laptop computer Medion MD97600.
[10:36] <IntuitiveNipple> n2diy: A lot of the recent new hardware isn't supported by Dapper... I was watching a hot debate in #ubuntu-kernel the other day over backporting stuff... basically its a no-go because of the amount of work required, versus the number of installed  systems it would mess up rather than help (Dapper is unlikely to be installed fresh nowadays)
[10:36] <aisman> dissection: eth0 is the real name of your ethernet card
[10:36] <dissection> aisman: I mean the the brand, and all that info
[10:37] <IntuitiveNipple> Dapper where installed will continue fine, but fresh installs are mostly Feisty, edgy, and a lot of people trying gutsy
[10:37] <aisman> dissection: try in system>administration>hardware information
[10:37] <dissection> aisman: I need it in terminal
[10:37] <N[i] X> and what about a program to extract songs from my ipod to the computer?
[10:37] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: Roger that. Dapper works great on my 1995 hardware. :)
[10:37] <pawan> cannot display option names in xmms player
[10:37] <lietu> dissection: lshw -short|grep eth0
[10:38] <dissection> Thanks
[10:38] <IntuitiveNipple> N[i] X: Well, banshee and rhythmbox play from it... I'm not sure if they will 'extract' from it... I think i recall gtkpod is able to do that
[10:38] <n2diy> bullgard4: Ubuntu doesn't work on any of my laptops, but then again Win2000 doesn't either.
[10:39] <N[i] X> thx
[10:39] <bullgard4> n2diy: Ubuntu works on all my laptop computers bought after 2004.
[10:39] <IntuitiveNipple> n2diy: I do often wish linux kernel development would pause for 6 months, sort out the outstanding problems, before adding/changing it again... trying to keep up with the way the kernel developers arbitrarily change things is tiring
[10:40] <Ind[y] > At each boot, some message are printed to the first tty, from kinit, saying that it tries to find a resume image, but it fails, so it does normal boot. How can I set kinit not to try to find a resume image?
[10:40] <Ind[y] > *messages
[10:40] <IntuitiveNipple> Ind[y] : That's normal, not a bug
[10:40] <Ind[y] > IntuitiveNipple: I know, but how can I disable it?
[10:40] <IntuitiveNipple> Ind[y] : It is checking if it is restarting after a Hibernate, thats all
[10:41] <Ind[y] > IntuitiveNipple: Oh, ok then,
[10:41] <Ind[y] > thanks
[10:41] <IntuitiveNipple> You want to disable hibernation?
[10:41] <Ind[y] > No.
[10:41] <IntuitiveNipple> ok :)
[10:41] <Ind[y] > Another thing. Where is the dhclient init script? I want to add a flag to dhclient.
[10:41] <IntuitiveNipple> If it finds a resume image, it will load it and restart from where it left off
[10:42] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: Roger that, I suppose the folks at DSL, and others, are pursuing that. Good for them.
[10:43] <Ind[y] > Because at boot, I get tons of messages from NetworkManager, at the ttys, and I want to disable them from being displayed. I think dhclient prints them, so I want to add the -q flag to dhclient, but I need to find the script that launches it.
[10:43] <N[i] X> intuitivenipple: ok, i found out what the problem is....    which gstreamer package do i install
[10:43] <IntuitiveNipple> N[i] X: I'm not entirely sure, it is ages since I did it
[10:44] <lietu> Ind[y] : try grep -R dhclient /etc/*
[10:44] <IntuitiveNipple> Ind[y] : /etc/dhcp3/
[10:44] <N[i] X> ok thanks
[10:44] <N[i] X> anybody else know which gstreamer package i should install?
[10:45] <alesan> I have a question regarding gnome and gnome-volume-manager. There are few ways to start g-v-m: one is /usr/share/gnome/default.session
[10:45] <ziroday> N[i] X: which codec?
[10:45] <alesan> how this file works?
[10:45] <N[i] X> ziroday: it wont play songs off my ipod... so mp3 im guessing
[10:45] <Ind[y] > lietu: Very many results.
[10:45] <alesan> is it only a template being copied to user's .gnome or is it read at every login?
[10:46] <Ind[y] > IntuitiveNipple: What's in there?
[10:46] <IntuitiveNipple> look!
[10:46] <lietu> Ind[y] : that was no surprise
[10:46] <Ind[y] > OK
[10:46] <lietu> hehe
[10:46] <Ind[y] > But, I have to find its configuration file, or the script that launches him?
[10:47] <Ind[y] > I found its configuration file, but I don't know how to add a permanent flag.
[10:47] <spartanz> hello earthlings!
[10:47] <Thursley> greetings marklar
[10:49] <Ind[y] > lietu, IntuitiveNipple: How can I add a flag to dhclient, through its configuration file?
[10:49] <lietu> how the heck would I know? tried googling for dhclient-specific help?
[10:49] <spartanz> tail -f text.file |while IFS=""" read firstcharactr nextcharactr       <--- i got an error if my IFS is thripple quote(""")? why? how do i solve this in bash shell scripting?
[10:50] <nanoteker> ok....
[10:50] <nanoteker> ANYONE here gotta mac with parallels?
[10:50] <nanoteker> i've been lurking in this room for hours
[10:51] <ziroday> sorry
[10:51] <nanoteker> can someone please help me?
[10:51] <Thursley> spartanz, this is probably something to do with not using an escape character, but I bet people in #bash can help you out
[10:51] <lietu> spartanz: try "\""
[10:52] <N[i] X> can anybody tell me what is wrong here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31648/
[10:53] <Thursley> N[i] X, did it configure correctly before you did make?
[10:54] <IndyGunFreak> Thursley: thats what i was thinking
[10:54] <IndyGunFreak> what program is that?
[10:54] <N[i] X> thursley: yes. this is the log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31650/
[10:55] <RichW^> Anyone know if frontpage extentions work with apache 2.x????
[10:55] <iNcrease> is there for ubuntu a defrag program?
[10:55] <IndyGunFreak> N[i] X: that doesn't look like it finished ./configure
[10:55] <IndyGunFreak> iNcrease: lol, i dont' think so.
[10:56] <IndyGunFreak> why do you think you need one?
[10:56] <RichW^> some say it dont need one
[10:56] <N[i] X> indygunfreak, what do you mean? what should i do?
[10:56] <RichW^> like him ^^
[10:56] <IntuitiveNipple> N[i] X: Where'd you download the source package from?
[10:56] <IndyGunFreak> N[i] X: you can try to ./configure again
[10:56] <iNcrease> IndyGunFreak, dunno, on windows ( 5 weeks ago) i did it evry 2 weeks cause files were placed over whole the place etc....
[10:56] <IndyGunFreak> it doesn't look like it configured properly
[10:57] <N[i] X> intuitivenipple: http://core.fluendo.com/gstreamer/src/gst-fluendo-mp3/
[10:57] <IndyGunFreak> iNcrease: well, Ubuntu, and Linux in generall, is a lot different from Windows in many ways, defragging is one of them.
[10:57] <IndyGunFreak> N[i] X: whats that program do?
[10:57] <IntuitiveNipple> ok, the correct place :)
[10:57] <iNcrease> IndyGunFreak, well ... thats cleared out to ;:)
[10:58] <jamesdell> hi, my intel 3945AB Pro/Wireless card doesnt work in Feisty. Anyone had solution on this already?
[10:58] <N[i] X> indygunfreak: lets me read mp3s on my box
[10:58] <IndyGunFreak> !wireless
[10:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:58] <Thursley> N[i] X, after a bit of googling i saw that there are certain debian patches for this source, might have something to do with that
[10:58] <IntuitiveNipple> N[i] X: Why not download 10.6, the latest... the one you have is from 2005
[10:58] <IndyGunFreak> N[i] X: read mp3's on your box?.. i don't understand
[10:58] <v4m21> IndyGunFreak:  Config output looks gud to me, is there anything wrong in it ?
[10:58] <N[i] X> indygunfreak: listen to music
[10:58] <N[i] X> i needed a mp3 codec
[10:58] <psyjoniz> lame
[10:59] <IndyGunFreak> v4m21: well, i'm not sure there's anything wrong with it, the thing is, it doesn't go to the end, so I can't tell if there's any errors.
[10:59] <kazim51> neend aa rahi hia
[11:00] <bullgard4> IntuitiveNipple: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/13207/ Where are the identifiers NBOS, RBEG, GBST, BOSP and BOIP defined? Do they have human-memorable equivalents?
[11:00] <IndyGunFreak> N[i] X: there are numerous places to download multimedia codecs
[11:00] <IndyGunFreak> N[i] X: thats the only thing you need it for, so you can listen to mp3s?
[11:00] <N[i] X> indygunfreak yes
[11:00] <N[i] X> but anyway im trying the latest version
[11:00] <IndyGunFreak> !mp3
[11:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:01] <N[i] X> didnt realize that one was from 2005
[11:01] <IndyGunFreak> N[i] X: do as you please, but compiling that program is unecesssary
[11:01] <N[i] X> configure: error: no gstreamer-0.10 >= 0.10.0 (GStreamer) found
[11:01] <N[i] X> ahhh tahts it
[11:01] <IndyGunFreak> you jus tneed to add mp3 codecs.
[11:01] <Abu_Hamza> try to play an mp3 file, then ubuntu will ask you if you want to install more codecs
[11:02] <IntuitiveNipple> bullgard4: Those identifiers are specific to that model's DSDT, you'll find them elsewhere in the DSDT
[11:02] <N[i] X> indygunfreak: it sais there is no gstreamer   ... but which gstreamer package do i download?
[11:02] <IndyGunFreak> N[i] X: try searching gstreamer, but you're going about this ass backwards
[11:02] <bullgard4> IntuitiveNipple: ok.
[11:03] <v4m21> libgstreamer0.10-dev  ???
[11:03] <N[i] X> indgunfreak :     i did.. which one do i pick? the one v4m21 said?
[11:03] <IndyGunFreak> sure.
[11:03] <riaal> Hi, I have a problem. I have 2 networkcards, one is connedted to an internal network with an routed internet connedtion (192.168.2.20) and the other one is directly connected to an 100/100mbit internet connection. For some reason trafic for the internet takes takes the way over the router :S How can I change this?
[11:03] <IndyGunFreak> why not.
[11:04] <v4m21> wait which version of dst plugin did you download ?
[11:04] <v4m21> gst ?
[11:05] <v4m21> I am trying with gst-fluendo-mp3-0.10.6.
[11:05] <blippe> riaal, with the command route and/or with the grafic tool for changing networkinterfaces in the gnome menu
[11:05] <jamesdell> !dpkg
[11:05] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[11:06] <jamesdell> !apt-get
[11:06] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[11:06] <riaal> blippe, whats that gratic tool called?
[11:06] <jamesdell> !more
[11:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about more - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:06] <blippe> riaal, network-admin, if it aint enough, you have to use route in a terminal
[11:07] <tupa> is something wrong with synergy server?, I start it but no process appears
[11:07] <tupa> what can be happening?
[11:07] <riaal> blippe, I will give it a try, thanks
[11:07] <N[i] X> got it to work guys
[11:07] <N[i] X> thanks
[11:07] <v4m21> I am able to make gst-fluendo-mp3-0.10.6.
[11:07] <blippe> riaal, seems the graphic interface hs removed the "default gateway" option
[11:10] <zulfiqar> i have a samsung 32" TV with resolution 1366 x 768, but i cannot see this in the screen resolution options .. how to I change my screen resolution?
[11:10] <tupa> nevermind, I was using debian label instead of ubuntu
[11:11] <riaal> blippe, found a command that looks like "route add default gw IP" what shall the IP be? my internet ip or the ip of the internet default gateway?
[11:11] <dBgBdWolf> latter
[11:12] <Helmi> can anyone tell me where those "connection to server" connections are saved and where i can modify them?
[11:12] <blippe> riaal, as dBgBdWolf says, the latter of the two
[11:14] <dBgBdWolf> Helmi: rephrase, please?
[11:15] <kahrytan> stop renaming
[11:15] <stuart87> my bad'=
[11:15] <IntuitiveNipple> He's probably trying to find a nickname that isn't registered
[11:15] <stuart87> true
[11:16] <kahrytan> be original like me
[11:16] <carter> Or just be like me and steal someone's nick
[11:16] <carter> They never seem to kick you off
[11:16] <carter> and you don't get bugged by pm's
[11:17] <kahrytan> shouldnt steal someone else's identify
[11:17] <kahrytan> identity
[11:17] <Helmi> dBgBdWolf, i don't know the exact english phrase as i'm using a german feisty but in the places menu there's "connection to server" (or sth.) which ads gnome-vfs connections
[11:17] <Helmi> got me?
[11:17] <kahrytan> besides, my nick is registered :)
[11:17] <carter> Kahrytan, it's not like I'm freakin' opening up their bank account
[11:17] <carter> This nick is registered to someone
[11:17] <carter> But they don't have it set to kick me off
[11:18] <kahrytan> carter: http://s120.photobucket.com/albums/o200/kahrytan/screenshots/?action=view&current=Screenshot-2.png
[11:18] <bullgard4> Why does gedit find '_BIF' and '_BST' in http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/13209/, but not 'NBOS' and 'RBEG'?
[11:18] <stuart87> Can someone tell me where the addresses for apt-get to serch is located?
[11:18] <stuart87> please
[11:18] <Abu_Hamza> man i hate themes that try to make linux look like windows or macOSX
[11:18] <carter> are you looking for the repos stuart87
[11:18] <bcbooteR> anyone p[layed the workld in conflict demo?
[11:18] <Abu_Hamza> as if those two have the best themes
[11:18] <carter> I know what you mean Abu
[11:19] <VoX> Abu_Hamza: it's what most people are familiar with
[11:19] <carter> It's like I run Linux so I don't have to look at ugly ass Fischer-Price XP themes
[11:19] <Abu_Hamza> VoX: yeah, but why not try to be different
[11:19] <IntuitiveNipple> bullgard4: lol... because they aren't O they are 0 in the middle!
[11:19] <kahrytan> carter: see the screenshot?
[11:19] <IntuitiveNipple> NBzeroS
[11:19] <VoX> Abu_Hamza: if you want to be different, there are many other themes available
[11:19] <Abu_Hamza> VoX: firefox was successful because it was "different" from IE
[11:20] <bullgard4> IntuitiveNipple: I do not understand. What is zero?
[11:20] <VoX> Abu_Hamza: if you're setting up linux for someone who's never used it before, they would find some familiarity a good thing
[11:20] <Frogzoo> !themes | Abu_Hamza
[11:20] <ubotu> Abu_Hamza: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[11:20] <bcbooteR> so far the best theme ive seen  is ubuntu's
[11:20] <carter> Kahrytan, shitty computers open against a bad bg?
[11:20] <Abu_Hamza> VoX: i know, but like you get more than 10 themes all trying to make ubuntu look like other Oss
[11:20] <IntuitiveNipple> bullgard4: It is NB0S and RBEC - I found them in that list
[11:20] <Frogzoo> bcbooteR: nopers, have to disagree
[11:20] <Abu_Hamza> VoX: probably
[11:20] <kahrytan> carter: What?
[11:20] <Helmi> dBgBdWolf, you know what i'm talking about now?
[11:20] <carter> the screenshot
[11:20] <bcbooteR> just my opinion, whats ur fav thereme frogzoo
[11:20] <Abu_Hamza> Frogzoo: i know how to install themes.. thank you
[11:20] <carter> it was a bunch of dell computers open in firefox
[11:21] <kahrytan> carter: My way of advertising dell ubuntu.
[11:21] <bullgard4> IntuitiveNipple: But my gedit Search did not find them. Why does it not find them?
[11:21] <IntuitiveNipple> You mistyped ?
[11:21] <kahrytan> carter: Dell needs to make money from it  so it helps linux community
[11:21] <zulfiqar> i have a samsung 32" TV with resolution 1366 x 768, but i cannot see this in the screen resolution options .. how to I change my screen resolution?
[11:21] <Abu_Hamza> VoX: besides, you're only confusing people if you're giving them the same look but a totally different feel
[11:21] <mandh> i have problem with samba in ubuntu only but in debian all thing ok , any hint plz
[11:21] <carter> After Dell screwed me with a lemon computer that it took a class action lawsuit to fix...NEVER AGAIN
[11:22] <IntuitiveNipple> bullgard4: In here you typed 'NBOS' and 'RBEG' but it's NB0S and RBEC
[11:22] <VoX> Abu_Hamza: rubbish
[11:22] <Abu_Hamza> VoX: they'll say, oh macOS looks similar, but does things better
[11:22] <bullgard4> IntuitiveNipple: I will carefully check for mistyping. But four characters are easy to type.
[11:22] <kahrytan> carter: HP makes crappy laptops
[11:22] <Abu_Hamza> VoX: interesting argument
[11:22] <kahrytan> carter: Their screens break b4 6 months
[11:22] <bcbooteR> whats the best theme frogzoo?
[11:22] <VoX> Abu_Hamza: and thats when you say "i made it look more like osx so you'd feel more comfortable with it. it's not trying to /emulate/ osx"
[11:22] <carter> Are you kidding?
[11:23] <kahrytan> carter: not bad pixels. the casing around lcd
[11:23] <bcbooteR> best laptops are thinkpads
[11:23] <mandh> any one fimiliar with samba on ubuntu can help me pla
[11:23] <carter> I love my HP Compaq Presario to death
[11:23] <bullgard4> IntuitiveNipple: When typing in the Search field I of course did not use apostrophs.
[11:23] <Abu_Hamza> Frogzoo: who did the 9/11? XD
[11:23] <carter> This is a great box
[11:23] <allix> hey, does anyone have gigabyte GA-M57SLI-S4 rev 2.0 motherboard ?
[11:23] <kahrytan> carter: Note: I said HP not compaq
[11:23] <carter> Compaq is owned by HP
[11:23] <kahrytan> carter: But compaq brand exists still
[11:23] <IntuitiveNipple> bullgard4: no, but you typed NB Oh S not NB zero S , and RBE G not RBE C
[11:24] <carter> okay, if you want to make that distinction kahrytan :=)
[11:24] <kahrytan> carter: wasnt talking about hp the company but the brand
[11:25] <carter> okay kahrytan, that makes sense
[11:25] <kahrytan> carter: anyways, hows the theme?
[11:25] <Frogzoo> !offtopic | Abu_Hamza
[11:25] <ubotu> Abu_Hamza: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:25] <stuart87> Can someone please help me? I just installed the 915resolution package on my computer, but when I type the command "915resolution -l", I get "No such file or directory" I am very lost!!!
[11:25] <carter> I don't like it
[11:25] <carter> But that's just me
[11:25] <carter> My art degree makes me snobby
[11:26] <kahrytan> carter: I suppose you like crappy themes
[11:26] <carter> ;-)
[11:26] <kahrytan> carter: majority of them at gnome-look are crap
[11:26] <carter> I like minimalist themes
[11:26] <carter> The less I notice it, the better
[11:26] <kahrytan> carter: and expandable panels?
[11:26] <SlimWadey> wahhoooo
[11:26] <carter> They are okay
[11:26] <Kjellviz> !ntfs
[11:26] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:26] <carter> Wow, Dell actually makes computers that ship with FreeDos
[11:26] <carter> That's crazy
[11:27] <Kjellviz> !ntfs-3g
[11:27] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[11:27] <stuart87> !915resolution
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 915resolution - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <kahrytan> carter: I find people who use expandable panel option have a tacky desktop
[11:27] <stuart87> Can someone please help me? I just installed the 915resolution package on my computer, but when I type the command "915resolution -l", I get "No such file or directory" I am very lost!!!
[11:27] <Kjellviz> !fuse
[11:27] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[11:27] <wertigo8888> how can i view files as icons in gnome desktop?
[11:28] <bullgard4> IntuitiveNipple: Now ok. I read errorneously the number zero for the letter Oh. --  Thank you for hinting.
[11:28] <carter> Kahrytan, I don't use them
[11:28] <ari_stress> hello all
[11:28] <ari_stress> wazzup
[11:28] <stuart87> hi
[11:28] <carter> well, I'm off to bed
[11:28] <carter> night
[11:28] <ari_stress> g'd afternoon
[11:28] <bobodclown> g'd morning :)
[11:28] <user01> hello all
[11:29] <stuart87> Can someone please help me? I just installed the 915resolution package on my computer, but when I type the command "915resolution -l", I get "No such file or directory" I am very lost!!!
[11:29] <stuart87> I'm dyyyyiiiinnnggg!
[11:29] <bcbooteR> whats a 915 resolution package?
[11:30] <kahrytan> !info 915resolution
[11:30] <ubotu> 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-10ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 14 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[11:30] <stuart87> its for the intel POS chipset video cards
[11:30] <stuart87> but im sooooo lost
[11:30] <bcbooteR> cant u just run the xorgconf and edit the resoltion???
[11:31] <Tchaka> hello
[11:31] <stuart87> "No X server known for your hardware"
[11:32] <kahrytan> stuart87: gedit /usr/share/doc/915resolution/README.Debian
[11:32] <user01> has anybody figured out how to install linksys wusb54g in feisty and get it to work?
[11:32] <kahrytan> stuart87:  binary is in /usr/sbin/915resolution	
[11:32] <kahrytan> stuart87: read this list http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=915resolution&version=feisty&arch=i386
[11:32] <sebrock> I have a strange isssue here: I cant access a sertain dir altough I am a member of the group and group have rights
[11:33] <stuart87> kahrytan: i already downloaded the deb and installed using dpkg
[11:33] <kahrytan> stuart87: So.
[11:33] <sebrock> where is the group file on ubuntu?
[11:33] <IntuitiveNipple> sebrock: /etc/groups
[11:33] <kahrytan> stuart87: I picked you where files are located
[11:34] <kahrytan> pointed
[11:34] <lietu> sebrock: make sure you have permissions to the parent directories as well
[11:34] <stuart87> kahrytan: I've already got them, I just can't figure out how to get it going
[11:35] <kahrytan> stuart87: AGAIN, I GAVE YOU LIST OF FILES INSTALLED
[11:35] <kahrytan> stuart87: are you dense?
[11:35] <siskel> i'm trying to install xmms-winamp plugin on feisty , i have wine configured. after ./configure  i get "Looking for WINE libraries: Looking for WINE include path: not found"
[11:35] <bobodclown> Hey guys, does anyone know how to re-enable the cube-style window switcher in feisty? I had it working then somehow set comp to 1 workspace only and since then hasnt worked (4 workspaces now)
[11:35] <sebrock> lietu I have, I'm standing in the dir below
[11:35] <bobodclown> have tried the system menu> destop effects
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[11:35] <kahrytan> stuart87: /etc/init.d/915resolution is the startup  one
[11:36] <kahrytan> stuart87: did you even both going to the page?
[11:36] <IntuitiveNipple> stuart87: Are you running 915resolution with the X server stopped?
[11:36] <_imran_> does anyone know how to set up bnet gateway editor for War III?
[11:36] <siskel> anyone knows how to force ./configure to look for wine libraries in a specific directories
[11:37] <user01> can anyone help me on linksys WUSB54G wireless usb adapter could not connect?
[11:37] <zmeiat_joro> is it ok to install alsa 1.0.14 on 6.10?
[11:37] <stuart87> kahrytan: Yes, X won't load
[11:37] <zmeiat_joro> will it conflict with the installed alsa
[11:37] <sebrock> lietu this is the dir I'm trying to access, and my user is clearly a member of grou '501' : rwxr-x--- 5 www-data  501          74 2007-07-25 22:13 Downloads
[11:37] <IntuitiveNipple> bobodclown: "gconftool-2 --type int --set /apps/compiz/general/screen0/options/hsize 4"
[11:38] <sebrock> it works if I set permissions for "others"!
[11:38] <zmeiat_joro> or should I just upgrade to 7.10 :/
[11:38] <bullgard4> IntuitiveNipple: In in http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/13209/, is the data type of NB0S defined in line #320S as a variable in RAM, 8 bytes wide? Where is defined what contents will be filled into this variable?
[11:38] <zmeiat_joro> em, 7.04
[11:38] <bobodclown> IntuitiveNipple: thanks dude
[11:39] <iFries> Somebody please help me :( I copied my home directorie in /home to my new disk with sudo. After that i did "sudo chown martijn /media/Data/martijn .. then i editted my /etc/fstab and pointed /home to my new hard disk... But now I can't login anymore.. I get those errors: http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p7280003im9.jpg And http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p7280004ny7.jpg Somebody knows how I can solve this? Thanks!
[11:39] <IntuitiveNipple> bobodclown: Also see these bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/89786   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/103042
[11:39] <lietu> sebrock: sounds like all the permissions on ., .., ../.. and so on aren't set to allow you in there
[11:39] <bobodclown> IntuitiveNipple: it worked like a dream, genius :) thx!
[11:39] <sebrock> lietu, is that in this folder you mean?
[11:40] <IntuitiveNipple> bobodclown: keep a note, I'm always forgetting it and having to refind it
[11:40] <bobodclown> IntuitiveNipple: lol yeah just bookmarked it :)
[11:40] <sebrock> lietu, no I made it recursive and it is all set to group "501"
[11:40] <lietu> well, let's say you're in /home/sebrock/Desktop/Downloads ... you need to make sure that ALL the parent directories allow you there.. /home, /home/sebrock and /home/sebrock/Desktop before you can reach /home/sebrock/Desktop/Downloads
[11:40] <IntuitiveNipple> :)
[11:41] <sebrock> lietu, I can reach all other dirs located in this path
[11:41] <sebrock> its just this one
[11:41] <blackdiamond_> hi guys, i try to installed Gutsy on a partition, but my internet connection doesn't work. My modem is D-link. It can be a problem of kernel?
[11:41] <sebrock> lietu the only thing that differs from the other dirs is that this dir is owned by another user, but it has group rights
[11:42] <siskel> iFries i think u needed to chmod it as well , but im not sure
[11:42] <lietu> and running 'groups' says 501?
[11:42] <IntuitiveNipple> bullgard4: No, they are bit widths. See ACPI v3.0 spec 17.5.44 Field (Declare Field Objects)
[11:42] <sebrock> lietu yes
[11:42] <iFries> siskel, ok .. but I can't get in my system right now .. Is there a way to get in?
[11:42] <IntuitiveNipple> blackdiamond_: Try in #ubuntu+1, that's the support channel for Gutsy alpha
[11:43] <lietu> sebrock: then I'm out of ideas
[11:43] <siskel> iFries,  sudo chmod -R 755 /path/to/dir
[11:43] <blackdiamond_> ah ok, thank you very much man! bye
[11:43] <siskel> iFries, mount it with knoppix or live CD////
[11:44] <iFries> siskel, ok, going to try that.. brb!
[11:45] <siskel> iFries, good luck
[11:45] <iFries> siskel, thanks, hehe..
[11:45] <Flodo> Do i really need a firewall for linux if im behind a router?
[11:46] <bullgard4> IntuitiveNipple: Ah! 8 bits wide. But what routine will fill this 8-bit wide field?
[11:46] <bobodclown> Flodo: its often recommended
[11:46] <bobodclown> Flodo: provides another level of protection and protects from threats on your LAN
[11:46] <Flodo> Thanks. Ill try to find one :)
[11:46] <N[i] X> can any1 tell me how to change my keyboard layout_
[11:46] <N[i] X> ?
[11:47] <howlingmadhowie> Flodo: unlikely
[11:47] <Matic`Makovec> Hello there. How could I make this little ubuntu here to run ntpdate every time it boots up?
[11:47] <howlingmadhowie> Flodo: and you already have a firewall :) it's called netfilter.
[11:47] <Flodo> True :)
[11:48] <IntuitiveNipple> bullgard4: The hardware, it is a mapping ... see the parent "RAM" OperationRegion :-17.5.89 OperationRegion (Declare Operation Region)
[11:49] <howlingmadhowie> Flodo: if you haven't already, have a look for a tutorial for iptables. you can really do everything with it, but it takes some getting used to
[11:50] <sebrock> lietu, could it be somehting about the group name 501
[11:50] <Flodo> I tried but there's so much to grasp
[11:50] <dBgBdWolf> helmi, nope, still don't really understand :/
[11:50] <lietu> sebrock: doubt it, you could ofcourse try naming a group in /etc/groups for that number
[11:51] <bobodclown> Flodo: i just started using linux a week ago, a lot to grasp is an understatement
[11:51] <bobodclown> :)
[11:51] <IntuitiveNipple> Flodo: Install firestarter
[11:52] <Flodo> Yeah. I need to abandon the microsoft way of thinking hehe
[11:52] <IntuitiveNipple> Flodo: That manages iptables in a 'user-friendly' way from your GUI
[11:52] <howlingmadhowie> Flodo: it is a very different way of looking at firewalls. Basically netfilter (through its configuration program called iptables) examines each packet to decide what to do with it. This happens directly in the kernel, so it's fast. you just right rule sets to do the things you want.
[11:52] <bullgard4> N[i] X: Gnome main menu System > Preferences > Keyboard
[11:52] <N[i] X> thanks bullguard4
[11:52] <howlingmadhowie> Flodo: well, the microsoft way of doing firewalls is because windows doesn't have a statefull firewall stack in the kernel, so you have to handle firewall tasks in the application layer.
[11:52] <Flodo> Thanks for the tips guys
[11:54] <IndyGunFreak> howlingmadhowie: so the kernel has SPI capabilities?  I don't mess with IP Tables, so I didn't know that...
[11:55] <howlingmadhowie> IndyGunFreak: the linux kernel can do remarkable things with packets :)
[11:55] <howlingmadhowie> IndyGunFreak: though i only use a small subset of it myself (masquerading and forwarding)
[11:55] <N[i] X> has anybody installed beryl on ubuntu here? i have a problem... when i switch it on my screen turns white
[11:55] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, maybe one day i'll mess with it.
[11:55] <IndyGunFreak> N[i] X: ati?
[11:56] <N[i] X> indygunfreak yes
[11:57] <IndyGunFreak> i *think* it has something to do with the fglrx driver, but i coiuld be wrong
[11:57] <lietu> "case closed"? ;)
[11:57] <elmajico> howdy, was looking for some assistance
[11:57] <elmajico> anyone up?
[11:57] <howlingmadhowie> !ask | elmajico
[11:57] <ubotu> elmajico: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:57] <IndyGunFreak> N[i] X: http://forum.beryl-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=3756
[11:58] <elmajico> when i lock my feisty desktop, meyboard wont let me type the password in
[11:58] <xukun> hi all
[11:58] <bullgard4> IntuitiveNipple: I understand the 'software' aspect of your answer and read section 17.5.89 in the spec. But I do not now  what you mean with 'mapping' here. What hardware will fill this field?
[11:58] <elmajico> the only thing that seems to get a response is ctrl+alt+backspace to reset the manager
[11:59] <Hugolp> hi
[11:59] <Hugolp> firestarter just wont obey
[12:00] <Hugolp> anyone can help or recomend another program to open and close ports?
[12:00] <xukun> can someone please advice me a good program to retrieve nzb files?
[12:00] <howlingmadhowie> elmajico: i'd file that one as a bug report. it sounds to me like a focussing issue
[12:01] <IntuitiveNipple> bullgard4: The RAM OperationRegion has type EmbeddedControl which will likely be memory-mapped registers
[12:02] <Frezeeer> Hi, I use ubuntu 7.04. I have a little problem with nautilus, it only previews some .pdf files and others it does nothing, I woul like it to preview all .pdf files, I have looked in google and forums, but so far with no luck any help on that?
[12:02] <elmajico> howlingmadhowie:forgive my newness, how do i got about that?, on a side note, it worked until i got my net working and did some updates, none keyboard related
[12:03] <bullgard4> IntuitiveNipple: Difficult to understand. Who will fill the memory-mapped registers?
[12:03] <howlingmadhowie> elmajico: or maybe there's some power management thing going on here. i dunno. i can't see the problem being related to the network. it's possible a kernel update changed some power management stuff
[12:03] <IntuitiveNipple> I thought you were an assembly-level and hardware programmer? If you are, you would know all this!
[12:03] <IntuitiveNipple> The hardware will
[12:04] <elmajico> howlingmadhowie:yes i updated kernel after i fixed the net
[12:04] <IntuitiveNipple> It's like in C doing register int var asm volatile (...)
[12:04] <Pat__> Hello I have a couple of ubuntu machines at home and a rather slow internet connection, is there an  way to make one machine download and install updates when they are available and the other machines to use the same updated downloads instead of re-downloading?
[12:04] <elmajico> howlingmadhowie:should i start my system with the old and come back with results?
[12:05] <howlingmadhowie> elmajico: you could revert to the old kernel. when booting, press escape and navigate down the list to the old kernel. then you can see if it still happens. no matter what, try filing a bug report here: https://launchpad.net/
[12:05] <sebrock> will 'apt-get remove alsa-base' remove all ALSA related stuff? I have no idea why this package was included in the server edition????
[12:05] <nulix> hello is KDE-4 installable in a test version in parallele of a current KDE-3.5.7
[12:05] <iXi> what does a and b actually mean in hd(a,b)?
[12:05] <elmajico> howlingmadhowie:thankyou
[12:06] <trumpen> ixi: they are the first and second letter of the alphabet :)
[12:06] <Frezeeer> I have a little problem with nautilus, it only previews some .pdf files and others it does nothing, I woul like it to preview all .pdf files, I have looked in google and forums, but so far with no luck any help on that?
[12:06] <howlingmadhowie> elmajico: one more thing. when you say you updated, did you update across distributions? what version are you using?
[12:06] <IntuitiveNipple> iXi: a is the drive number, b is the partition number on that drive
[12:06] <elmajico> howlingmadhowie:i installed feisty desktop cd, and updated all the ones it suggested when i got net working
[12:07] <bobodclown> Pat__: it is possible with debian i think so should b with buntu but im afraid i dont know how
[12:07] <elmajico> howlingmadhowie:kernel was 1.5x i believe, is now 1.6x
[12:07] <Pat__> i did a quick google search but was unable to find anything!
[12:07] <bobodclown> Pat__: maybe check deb forums and try it in butun?
[12:07] <King_Leonidas> Hello, I have coloured lines and things across the media player screen when I'm watching videos
[12:08] <bobodclown> Pat__: wish i could remember what its called.. meeh. ill try to rack my brain.
[12:08] <Pat__> :-)
[12:08] <howlingmadhowie> elmajico: cool :) so you've got a fresh updated kernel install. that should make finding the problem easier for the developers. the kernel was 2.6.20.15 and is now 2.6.20.16, if i remember correctly
[12:08] <sebrock> hey, how do I disable alsa on boot?
[12:08] <sebrock> can't find it in rc
[12:08] <IntuitiveNipple> Pat__: Yes there is... it involves sharing the /var/cache/apt/archives directory on the 'primary' PC, and then adding that location as a file:// repository on the 'slave'
[12:09] <bullgard4> IntuitiveNipple: I did not say that I am a hardware programmer. I am not. I said that I have a certain background. Though it may be thin. --  What is a memory-mapped register? A register that is always filled with the contents of a defined disk memory location?
[12:09] <Pat__> I thought of manually solving the problem by sharing  /var/cache/apt/archive/
[12:09] <iXi> ok, I have installed Ubuntu on a external USB drive and it doesn't boot...I know (!!) that there are trillions of posts and articles on the net but I can't seem to solve it anyway...
[12:09] <elmajico> howlingmadhowie:yeah that sounds right, gonna file a report, thankyou for your assistance
[12:09] <Pat__> hehehe IN that's my idea but I thought rather than re-inventing the wheel i'd check if there is some official wa before
[12:10] <IntuitiveNipple> Pat__: This may help you http://news.softpedia.com/news/Create-a-LAN-Repository-with-Apt-Cacher-45978.shtml
[12:10] <howlingmadhowie> don't mention it. check to see if it still happens using the old kernel first, though
[12:10] <IntuitiveNipple> bullgard4: no, it is a register in some device that is 'mapped' to an address in the CPU's memory or I/O address space
[12:10] <jahid_> where is the font folder located in ubuntu 7.0.4?
[12:11] <Flannel> !fonts | jahid_
[12:11] <ubotu> jahid_: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[12:11] <sebrock> is it possible to not boot ALSA when staring the machine? this is a server, and ALSA is certainly not needed
[12:11] <dBgBdWolf> !raid
[12:11] <ubotu> Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[12:12] <dBgBdWolf> hmm
[12:12] <IntuitiveNipple> sebrock: Yes, you can blacklist modules in /etc/modules.d/blacklist
[12:12] <King_Leonidas> anyone know much about colour lines in video output
[12:12] <King_Leonidas> ?
[12:13] <iXi> My BIOS is capable of booting from a USB drive and the Ubuntu install went on without problems but GRUB doesn't load at all..it is not that I get an error message, GRUB never loads. Something obvious?
[12:14] <Abu_Hamza> King_Leonidas: probably not the right channel to ask this question
[12:14] <sebrock> IntuitiveNipple, so what do I put there? alsa-base ? anything more?
[12:14] <howlingmadhowie> bullgard4: in case you didn't know, on most architectures, the input/output is mapped to main memory, so that you just write something at a memory address and it's sent to that device. this explains why 32-bit architectures can't address a full 4GB of ram, but stop at 3.x GB
[12:15] <sebrock> btw, I dont have modules.d....?
[12:15] <IntuitiveNipple> sebrock: I'm not sure, I've never needed to, you'd need to check on the sound module dependencies using lsmod and pick the 'base' that all others rely on
[12:15] <King_Leonidas> Abi_Hamza: Well, it happens in more than one video player
[12:15] <Pat__> thanks IntuitiveNipple that's exactly what I was looking for!
[12:15] <IntuitiveNipple> Pat__: np
[12:15] <IntuitiveNipple> Google is Your friend too :D
[12:15] <elmajico> howlingmadhowie: i just tested something on a whim, the bug is with beryl, when metacity is managing, locking works fine
[12:16] <bullgard4> howlingmadhowie: Thank you for explaining.
[12:16] <howlingmadhowie> oh okay :) it's good to know what's wrong :)
[12:16] <Pichu0102> Hi, is there any way to pass a string into a bash script?
[12:17] <elmajico> howlingmadhowie: any ideas on how i should approach this?
[12:17] <Matic`Makovec> Hello there. How could I make this little ubuntu here to run ntpdate every time it boots up?
[12:17] <IntuitiveNipple> Pichu0102: Yes, on the command line
[12:17] <Pichu0102> Ah
[12:17] <TravellingSalesM> hi, i have a little problem, whatever movie player i use i first have to issue -vo x11 to be able to watch it, like: mplayer -vo x11 filenames, can any one plz tell me how can i make it permanent so i don't need to issue this -vo x11 any time i want to watch something?
[12:17] <Pichu0102> I have a script like this: ./.steam.sh 81.19.223.200:27015
[12:17] <IntuitiveNipple> Pichu0102: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[12:17] <howlingmadhowie> bullgard4: intel tried to address (*g*) these problems by introducing something called PAE (which basically meant extending the address length for segments to 36bit). however this causes as far as i know more problems than it solves.
[12:18] <sebrock> I dont understuand why they put the alsa-package in the server edition at all
[12:18] <Pichu0102> How do I make it so it passes that number to wine Steam.exe -applaunch 240 +connect "%s" inside the script?
[12:18] <reverseblade> sebrock, sound alarms ?
[12:19] <King_Leonidas> Wow....I think it is a gstreamer issue
[12:19] <howlingmadhowie> elmajico: i'm sorry, but i've never used beryl. as far as i know, beryl and compiz have now merged anyway to make compiz-fusion, so i'm not sure how much support you'd get for a beryl-problem. there are as far as i know compiz-fusion packages for ubuntu, but i've never used them
[12:19] <IntuitiveNipple> Intel x86 has separate memory and I/O addressing
[12:19] <trumpen> sebrok, play music for other servers in the room?
[12:20] <bullgard4> howlingmadhowie: I know the term 'memory mapping' from the times of MS-DOS when 640 kB put an upper limit to many programs.
[12:20] <elmajico> howlingmadhowie: yah fusion was crashing all over the place for me, ill go dig deeper on that, thanks again
[12:21] <Shiko> q onda
[12:21] <howlingmadhowie> bullgard4: exactly :) but that was a function of the architecture (20-bit address space)
[12:21] <khelll> am trying to boot using ubuntu
[12:21] <khelll> but the x server gives an error
[12:21] <bullgard4> howlingmadhowie: yes.
[12:21] <howlingmadhowie> elmajico: good luck :)
[12:21] <khelll> looks like i have problem with the x 1300 ati card i have
[12:21] <bengt__> of topic: Need to buy a laptop to be used with Ubuntu. Considering Dell 1420 or 1520 (with Bluetooth, Wireless and Camera). Are these to be recommended or would you recommend something else?
[12:21] <sebrock> reverseblade, why not just use the PC speaker, no need for ALSA
[12:22] <berent> can i rpmbuild on ubuntu?????
[12:22] <berent> !rpmbuild
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rpmbuild - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <berent> !rpm
[12:22] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[12:22] <howlingmadhowie> bullgard4: the amd64 uses 48-bit address space, which should be enough for most people for a while (256TB). some architectures do however use full 64-bit address space (sparc, for example)
[12:22] <reverseblade> sebrock, one of my friends using festival to alert the admin which needs alsa. It is useful since the server has no monitor
[12:23] <reverseblade> sebrock, you can remove the module anyway
[12:23] <berent> i have a ethernet driver which i have to build for 2.6 kernels .  In the readme it says to rpmbuild the package . what shoud i do for ubuntu????
[12:23] <SolidAsArocK_> bonjour pour rejoindr un cannal allmand c'es bien ubuntu-de?
[12:24] <bullgard4> IntuitiveNipple: afk for 20 minutes. You have been very helpful to me.
[12:24] <SolidAsArocK_> how i can join the channel for germain peopples plz
[12:24] <cyberphaz> !de
[12:24] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:24] <eolhyte> Hello
[12:24] <berent> i have a ethernet driver which i have to build for 2.6 kernels .  In the readme it says to rpmbuild the package . what shoud i do for ubuntu????
[12:24] <berent> i have a ethernet driver which i have to build for 2.6 kernels .  In the readme it says to rpmbuild the package . what shoud i do for ubuntu????
[12:24] <SolidAsArocK_> :) thanx a lot ubotu ;)
[12:25] <sebrock> reverseblade, I simulated the removal and It wants to remove the while ubuntu-mininal package
[12:25] <sebrock> so I dont know how this will be done without a LOT of hassle
[12:26] <IntuitiveNipple> sebrock: I suspect, if you check, you'll find ubuntu-minimal is a 'meta' package, so removing it won't actually remove anything vital... but *do* check first
[12:26] <reverseblade> sebrock, you can unload it from kernel by modprobe -r . removing the package will only save you diskspace. But still why bother ?
[12:27] <IntuitiveNipple> sebrock: "It is safe to remove this package if some of the minimal system packages are not desired. However, it is recommended that you keep it installed, because it is used to carry out certain upgrade transitions (such as adding new packages to the system)"
[12:27] <sebrock> nah there is still some usefull stuff there :D'
[12:27] <sebrock> reverseblade, IntuitiveNipple, how do I blacklist alsa?
[12:28] <sparkling> hi all
[12:28] <IntuitiveNipple> sebrock: Add the alsa or sound driver modules to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[12:28] <sebrock> is that just "alsa"?
[12:29] <sebrock> I'm not sure what to add...
[12:29] <IntuitiveNipple> Is that a module on your system?
[12:29] <Ramy> how i can print on both sides of the paper and  2pages/paper in the same time, my printer HP Deskjet F380 ?
[12:29] <IntuitiveNipple> On mine, it looks like I'd simply blacklist "snd" because that is depended on by most of the rest of the sound system
[12:29] <askand> Is anyone able to install deluge-torrent from repositories?
[12:30] <berent> i have a ethernet driver which i have to build for 2.6 kernels .  In the readme it says to rpmbuild the package . what shoud i do for ubuntu????
[12:30] <IntuitiveNipple> actually, snd depends on "soundcore" so blacklisting that might be better
[12:30] <sebrock> IntuitiveNipple, so snd should do it?
[12:30] <duriantang> hi, can i use nvidia-glx-new for nvidia 8400M? my laptop is acer apire 4520.
[12:31] <berent> duriantang  : which card you have
[12:31] <IntuitiveNipple> sebrock: Check your system ("lsmod | grep snd") see the dependencies, I suspect "soundcore" is a better option for blacklisting
[12:31] <duriantang> berent: geforece 8400m g 128mb
[12:32] <hinogi> where do i get the windows media audio codec to play wmv with audio?
[12:32] <berent> duriantang : you can use restricted drivers . no problems
[12:32] <IntuitiveNipple> berent: "sudo apt-get install rpm" then install and use alien to convert the rpm http://linux.die.net/man/1/alien
[12:32] <reverseblade> sebrock,  cat /proc/modules|gawk '/^snd-/{print $1}'|xargs -i rmmod {} . Use it at your own risk !!!
[12:33] <sebrock> Nothing showed when doing grep snd... just remembered I disabled sound in bios yesterday :/
[12:33] <sebrock> so I guess it is not loaded then
[12:33] <IntuitiveNipple> lol
[12:33] <Ramy> how i can print on both sides of the paper and  2pages/paper in the same time, my printer HP Deskjet F380 ?
[12:33] <IntuitiveNipple> doh
[12:33] <sebrock> sorry :D
[12:34] <reverseblade> lol
[12:34] <duriantang> berent: thx, can u help me check this, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31661/ , this is my lspci output.
[12:34] <berent> IntuitiveNipple: how harmful is it?
[12:35] <IntuitiveNipple> berent: harmful?
[12:35] <berent> IntuitiveNipple: alien on debian
[12:35] <berent> duriantang : install glx-new
[12:35] <MsK`> hi
[12:35] <MsK`> how can I add "dxs_support=4" parameter to snd-via82xx module at boot ?
[12:36] <hinogi> i can't play windows media audio v3 files anyone got an idea
[12:36] <IntuitiveNipple> berent: Try it out... if the build fails you'll know something is missing
[12:37] <berent> IntuitiveNipple: I have a .c file and a makefile in a tar.gz. how do i convert it to .deb or .rpm?
[12:37] <duriantang> berent: and, my sound card has some problem, it's realtek hd chip, which module can i modprobe?
[12:37] <IntuitiveNipple> MsK`: Add a line to /etc/modprobe.d/options of the form "options snd-via82xx XXX=YYYY"
[12:38] <MsK`> thanks IntuitiveNipple
[12:38] <Ramy> how i can print on both sides of the paper and  2 pages/side in the same time, my printer HP Deskjet F380 ?
[12:38] <IntuitiveNipple> berent: I don't understand why you would want to convert to a deb or rpm. Surely you would just extract the files and build them?
[12:38] <berent> IntuitiveNipple: it is  written for a 2.4 kernel
[12:39] <dBgBdWolf> ok, time for me to try my debian -> ubuntu migration :|
[12:39] <berent> duriantang: as per ur paste :00:07.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 055c (rev a1): your audio card is also nvidia. so first install restricted drivers and then see
[12:40] <IntuitiveNipple> Well that sounds more like something a programmer needs to sort out, since converting from 2.4 to 2.6 isn't a trivial thing for drivers
[12:40] <dBgBdWolf> wi bhaal
[12:42] <duriantang> berent: brb for these drivers, tyvm
[12:42] <kevin4381> I've already installed ubuntu --- and I made one big partition that takes up the whole drive...
[12:43] <anubis974> hello
[12:43] <kevin4381> can I repartition and install XP on this drive w/out reinstalling ubuntu?
[12:43] <Ramy> how i can print on both sides of the paper and  2 pages/side in the same time, my printer HP Deskjet F380 ?
[12:43] <ksivaji> hi
[12:43] <anubis974> i want to know if it's possible to connect my pda with bluetooth to my desktop pc ??
[12:44] <iNcrease> IntuitiveNipple, can u tell me wherefor the /etc/modprobe.d/options is generally used?..
[12:44] <berent> kevin4381 : that's interesting: how can a one parition take whole drive? the other partition is 0?
[12:44] <IntuitiveNipple> iNcrease: To customise the loading options of kernel device drivers when the driver can't figure things out for itself, or you want to set custom options at boot
[12:44] <Ramy> can anyone answer me, please :(
[12:44] <anubis974> my pda have linux familiar
[12:45] <kevin4381> berent:  - perhaps my language is wrong... I'm used to windows using ONE partition... UBUNTU is taking up the whole drive
[12:45] <joerg> Hi all. I'm on gutsy and have trouble understanding the kernel-package build-system: For the intel-wireless 4965 driver, I need a patched mac80211 subsystem inside my kernel. I checked out the ubuntu-kenel git repository, patched the kernel and ran "AUTOBUILD=1 fakeroot debian/rules binary-debs" as documented in the wiki. Everything went fine, I've got brand new linux-image..generic...*.deb and linux-header-..generic.deb
[12:45] <kevin4381> I don't know how man partitions it made :)
[12:45] <kevin4381> my question is --- can I make a windows partition without losing my ubuntu install?
[12:45] <joerg> But(!): there's no linux-header...deb WITHOUT generic, and the ...generic package depends on it
[12:45] <anubis974> i want to know if it's possible to connect my pda with bluetooth to my desktop pc ??
[12:45] <berent> Ramy : just press some buttons on printer and find out the possibilities
[12:45] <anubis974> nobody can help me !!!
[12:46] <berent> kevin4381 : first you have to install the lesser os and then higher os
[12:46] <iNcrease> IntuitiveNipple, so everything could be placed there for boot up? eg : networking , pci, ... or just drivers of videocards, soundcards, ...
[12:46] <joerg> anubis974: raw connection is no problem -- it depends on the type of pde if you can actually do womething useful with iit..
[12:46] <joerg> anubis974: what koind of pda is it?
[12:47] <kevin4381> berent:  - sine I'm in #ubuntu I assume the 'lesser os' is Windows? :)
[12:47] <anubis974> it's a *n ipaq
[12:47] <IntuitiveNipple> iNcrease: any dynamically loaded modules
[12:47] <needle> kevin4381 if you install windows last it willoverwrite your ubuntu bootloader
[12:47] <berent> kevin4381 : reasoning is wrong but logic is right
[12:47] <iNcrease> IntuitiveNipple, ow oke :) thx
[12:47] <anubis974> it's an ipaq with familiar gpe
[12:47] <kevin4381> berent -- so you are saying I MUST reinstall ubuntu to accomplish this on one drive, right?
[12:48] <IntuitiveNipple> iNcrease: for moduesl built-in to the kernel, their options must be set on the kernel command-line at boot time
[12:48] <siskel> hi, feisty doesnt mount my laptop's DVD, i suspect the fstab entry is wrong , how can i find out ?
[12:48] <berent> kevin4381 : yes. AFAIK
[12:48] <kevin4381> thank you :)
, man my printer does not have automatic printing both sides, so i do it manually, odd then even pages. but i want to print 2 pages per side i gor a prb bcz the option for even and odd is not valid i could do it in Windows , but in ubuntu i don't know ?
[12:48] <iNcrease> IntuitiveNipple, mzz thx didn't know that ... :)
[12:48] <anubis974> joerg, it's an ipaq h2200
[12:48] <UberDuper> Any suggestions for power management utils/daemons?
[12:49] <UberDuper> For clocking down the CPU.
[12:49] <IntuitiveNipple> UberDuper: They are usually pre-installed
[12:49] <berent> Ramy : are you running cups
[12:49] <UberDuper> IntuitiveNipple: On a server install?
[12:50] <berent> !cups
[12:50] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:50] <berent> !cups > Ramy
 yes, the option for printing on both sides was disabled :(
[12:50] <IntuitiveNipple> usually part of the ACPI or CPU modules (do an lsmod | grep cpu and see what you find)
[12:51] <UberDuper> IntuitiveNipple: Nothing.
[12:51] <UberDuper> =)
[12:51] <anubis974> i lost joerg :(
[12:51] <DimitrisC> Well I never believed I would be asking this but is there a way for a non destructive repartitioning of my Ubuntu installation to install winxp again? I really want to play World of Warcraft :-)
[12:51] <IntuitiveNipple> UberDuper: What hardware? does it support speed scaling?
[12:51] <joerg> anubis974: don't know anything about ipaqs.. sorry
[12:51] <UberDuper> Athlon64 windsor.
[12:51] <anubis974> ok
[12:52] <Anlar> DimitrisC: wow should run on Linux though
[12:52] <IntuitiveNipple> check out things like powernowd
[12:52] <DimitrisC> Anlar: I am using an ATI card and have nothing but problems so far!
[12:53] <UberDuper> I see a few options. cpufreqd, powernowd, powersaved
[12:54] <DimitrisC> I just want to free about 5-6gb for a winxp installation just to play some games
[12:54] <Flodo> World of warcraft works like a charm usin l test wine. If you have a nvidia card that is
[12:54] <Flodo> *latest
[12:54] <cyberphaz> i use ati to play WoW it does play ok
[12:54] <cyberphaz> not in opengl though
[12:54] <Shoopuf> Is there any plans for fixing the Main Menu in the Panel for Gutsy Gibbon?
[12:54] <berent> kevin4381 : are you there
[12:54] <Flodo> I'm on my pda, hence all the typos
[12:55] <DimitrisC> cyberphaz: That is what I keep reading that there are problems with OpenGL. Can you still play the game without OpenGL?
[12:55] <cyberphaz> in cedega you can
[12:55] <sparkling> is it posible to configure logitech mouse to have double click with only wheel one click?
[12:55] <the_cyber_guy> *graphics
[12:55] <Flodo> Yes but with low fps
[12:55] <cyberphaz> my fps are great in d3d
[12:55] <Flodo> Wow.exe -opengl is best
[12:55] <the_cyber_guy> hi all :-)
[12:55] <cyberphaz> wont work for me flodo
[12:55] <Flodo> brb
[12:55] <cyberphaz> it crashes the game
[12:56] <the_cyber_guy> i have a problem with ubuntu
[12:56] <Flodo> Hmm, wierd =/
[12:56] <the_cyber_guy> its not giving me beryl
[12:56] <the_cyber_guy> niether compiz
[12:56] <stefg> !beryl | the_cyber_guy
[12:56] <ubotu> the_cyber_guy: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:56] <DimitrisC> cyberphaz: Ok thanks. I will try cedega before I start messing up partitions :-)
[12:57] <A[D] minS> i can find  System->Preferences->Desktop Effects , how i can add it in menu
[12:57] <NcGaudi> hello
[12:57] <A[D] minS> can't* find
[12:57] <DimitrisC> cyberphaz: Do I have to disable beryl or can I play the game with beryl on?
[12:57] <cyberphaz> if you have an ati card you cant have beryl and play games
[12:57] <cyberphaz> sadly
[12:58] <cyberphaz> works fine iwth nvidia though
[12:58] <cyberphaz> or so i heard
[12:58] <cyberphaz> which is why im saving for a 8800 atm
[12:58] <cyberphaz> :P
[12:58] <khelll> am having x server error when am trying to install ubuntu, i have ati x 1300 griphics card
[12:58] <Shoopuf> cyberphaz: Or just dual-boot into Windows for WoW and do everything else in Ubuntu :) Runs fine.
[12:58] <cyberphaz> dualbooting sucks
[12:59] <UbunVIA> Can anyone help me with the specifics of updating the kernel for ubuntu 7.04 for the new VIA video drivers?
[12:59] <elmajico> how can i check if i have xgl installed
[12:59] <cyberphaz> having to reboot each and everytime you wanna play is such a bother
[12:59] <DimitrisC> cyberphaz: I'm with you. Nvidia all the way. I am saving for a new pc, I'm not making the same mistake twice :-)
[12:59] <UbunVIA> I love ATI
[12:59] <puvneet> has anyone had this problem where emerald won't change the theme even though you import it and double click on the theme
[12:59] <cyberphaz> i have a pretty new dell...sadly i took ati card though
[12:59] <cyberphaz> im hoping dell will force ati to make better drivers though
[01:00] <puvneet> any one using emerald
[01:00] <kazol> What is better in terms of quality/price/performance-ATI or Nvidia?
[01:00] <UbunVIA> Since AMD Bought ATI, I bet it will become amazing in time.
[01:00] <cyberphaz> im praying ubunvia
[01:00] <stefg> !faq
[01:00] <ubotu> A list of common questions and answers about Ubuntu: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions - Official documentation: http://help.ubuntu.com - IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[01:00] <khelll> am having x server error when am trying to install ubuntu, i have ati x 1300 griphics card
[01:00] <DimitrisC> cyberphaz: Well I've read in slashdot that dell is increasing its supply of ubuntu pc so its just a matter of time before they demand better support from ati
[01:00] <A[D] minS> System->Preferences->Desktop Effects  "i can't find Desktop Effects " how i can add it ?
[01:00] <Shoopuf> kazol: Check http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ and look in the video card section. They give a list of the best buys for each price bracket. But if you are an Ubuntu person, then yah, NVidia.
[01:01] <jburd> I'm trying to record voice and I can hear myself, but the sound recorders don't pick up my voice.  What's wrong?
[01:01] <UbunVIA> IS anyone here good at driver install? utilizing the kernel that is?
[01:01] <puvneet> hey how do you load emerald themes
[01:01] <dBgBdWolf> are dell's ubuntu-driven sales doing well?
[01:01] <IntuitiveNipple> A[D] minS: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[01:01] <cyberphaz> aparantly so dBgBdWolf
[01:01] <puvneet> 7.04
[01:01] <UberDuper> What are these modules in kernel/drivers/cpufreq ?
[01:01] <cyberphaz> better then they expected
[01:01] <UbunVIA> Anyone help me with a driver install on Ubuntu 7.04???
[01:02] <stefg> puvneet: #ubuntu-effects or #beryl for compiz/beryl related questions
[01:02] <DimitrisC> If I was in the US I would buy dell as well
[01:02] <UbunVIA> I build my PC's
[01:02] <UbunVIA> You get exactly what you want.
[01:02] <A[D] minS> IntuitiveNipple: 7.04
[01:03] <A[D] minS> feisty
[01:03] <puvneet> thanks
[01:03] <UbunVIA> Running a Athlon X2 4800, 2 ATI x1650 PRO in crossfire, 4 gig of 3-3-3-5 DDR2 800, and HD audio, lovin it
[01:03] <aa^way> hello, i m learning C, i downlaoded win API documentation its called w32.hlp but i cant open it, any suggestions ?
[01:03] <UbunVIA> but not motebook on the other hand, is deing on Ubuntu
[01:03] <IntuitiveNipple> A[D] minS: hmmm! That does seem strange if it is missing... is it a fresh installation?
[01:03] <Shoopuf> aa^way: I believe .hlp is a Windows type of text formatting.
[01:03] <jussi_> how can i install ubuntu on the same hard-disk as windows xp is on?
[01:03] <DimitrisC> UbunVIA: I'm in the middle of building my HTPC and Its going to be fully linux compatible :-)
[01:03] <iNcrease> can anyone help on my laptop i have a cable input ( network card) i put in the cable but nothing happens... ubuntu doesnt detect that iam connected .. can anyone say me how i can set up this connection?
[01:04] <kazol> Anyone (except me) had a problem upgrading from Dapper to Edgy? I had to reformat and install Feisty.
[01:04] <askand> Is anyone able to reach this page?   http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/index.php?task=scripts
[01:04] <UbunVIA> Well, go with Nvidia
[01:04] <UbunVIA> 7600
[01:04] <stefg> !install | jussi_
[01:04] <ubotu> jussi_: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[01:04] <A[D] minS> IntuitiveNipple yes it is
[01:04] <UbunVIA> HTPC with 7600 is more then enough.
[01:04] <jussi_> ubotu: ty m8
[01:04] <A[D] minS> IntuitiveNipple anyway do  u know how i can open it from command line
[01:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ty m8 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:04] <IntuitiveNipple> A[D] minS: Start a Terminal, issue the command "desktop-effects"
[01:05] <stuart87> !sourcecode
[01:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sourcecode - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:05] <DimitrisC> UbunVIA: I am hooking it on a 42 Pioneer plasma so a bit of gaming may be in order. I am going 8800gt
[01:05] <A[D] minS> IntuitiveNipple: ok i got that this package not installed thats why not appear in menu thx for helping :)
[01:06] <IntuitiveNipple> A[D] minS: unusual that is!
[01:06] <IntuitiveNipple> askand: It fails for me, too
[01:06] <UbunVIA> DimitrisC: Have you ever heard of LumenLab?
[01:07] <stuart87> Can someone please help me with 915resolution? I got it all installed, but I need to edit the sourcecode. Where can I find it?
[01:07] <UbunVIA> DimitrisC: if you have a spair monitor laying around, you can make a projector for under 400
[01:07] <UbunVIA> DimitrisC: I made a projector out of a 7" portable DVD player, that the final image is 6x3.8 feet letterbox
[01:08] <YNWA> hey I know this is Ubuntu but can anyone direct me to a Fedora channel? Thanks
[01:08] <DimitrisC> UbunVIA: Niceeeeee. I am certainly going to look it up now. Thnx!!!
[01:08] <IntuitiveNipple> back down the corridor, 5th on the right :)
[01:08] <YNWA> brrrrrrrrrrrr...
[01:08] <UbunVIA> DimitrisC: No problem, www.lumenlab.com
[01:08] <stuart87> YNWA: #Fedora??? Just a gut feeling...
[01:09] <Spee_Der> Feisty Fawn v.704, how to add more workspaces over the default of two, please ?
[01:09] <IntuitiveNipple> stuart87's gut feeling is good
[01:09] <YNWA> stuart87: I did, and all I got was a blank screen... :(
[01:09] <elmajico> how can i tell if im using XGL og AIGLX
[01:09] <sarthor> Hi, Trying for 9 days, to setup my cbq, but still i am getting this errro "RTNETLINK answers: No such file or directory".... Help please. i am new with linux.
[01:09] <YNWA> like they were ghosts or something...
[01:09] <UbunVIA> DimitrisC: No problem, www.lumenlab.com Go to the DIY section and forum's
[01:09] <IntuitiveNipple> Spee_Der: right-click the workspace icon choose Properties and increase
[01:09] <stuart87> nah, theres 235 ppl online
[01:09] <Spee_Der> IndyGunFreak, many thanks,
[01:09] <IntuitiveNipple> Spee_Der: Preferences, not Options!
[01:09] <elmajico> how can i tell if im using XGL or* AIGLX
[01:10] <DimitrisC> UbunVIA: Got it! I am doing it now :-)
[01:10] <IntuitiveNipple> where *is* my brain!
[01:10] <stefg> stuart87: sudo apt-get source 915resolution
[01:10] <jburd> "Error while opening sound device.  Please check the input device settings and the project sample rate."   What's wrong?  I'm using Intel ICH5 (ALSA mixer).
[01:10] <iNcrease> can anyone help on my laptop i have a cable input ( network card) i put in the cable but nothing happens... ubuntu doesnt detect that iam connected .. can anyone say me how i can set up this connection?
[01:10] <UbunVIA> DimitrisC: Are you good with Ubuntu? I have a favor to ask =)
[01:10] <Spee_Der> IndyGunFreak, many thanks. I could not remember and I was going bonkers !
[01:10] <Spee_Der> IntuitiveNipple, thank you so much......
[01:11] <Catsceo> is there any possible way to change my hostname is Kubuntu (over the command line or GUI, and I'm not talking about IRC hostname)
[01:11] <Spee_Der> IntuitiveNipple, I was going bonkers trying to recall....
[01:11] <nanoteker> anyone here on a mac?
[01:11] <Catsceo> I do
[01:11] <stuart87> stefg: "sh: dpkg-source: not fount"
[01:11] <stuart87> *found
[01:11] <IntuitiveNipple> iNcrease: Does "dmesg" show the drivers loaded for the network device?
[01:11] <nanoteker> catsceo, UR on a mac?
[01:11] <Catsceo> atm, yes
[01:11] <elmajico> is there a command i can use to tell me if im using XGL or* AIGLX?
[01:11] <stefg> stuart87: check if you have the source repos enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list.
[01:11] <DimitrisC> UbunVIA: I wouldn't call myself good but tell me and we'll see if I can help.
[01:11] <stuart87> stefg: Do you know if it's on a different repository
[01:12] <nanoteker> u running parallels?
[01:12] <iNcrease> increase, nope
[01:12] <Catsceo> no
[01:12] <nanoteker> bootcamp?
[01:12] <Catsceo> nope :/
[01:12] <stuart87> stefg: sorry, simulatanious msg
[01:12] <IntuitiveNipple> iNcrease: Is the network hardware supported by a Linux driver?
[01:12] <nanoteker> so are you even running ubuntu?
[01:13] <Catsceo> nano: on a old iBook G3 and a custom box
[01:13] <nanoteker> are u running a mac machian with ONLY ubuntu?
[01:13] <sarthor> Hi, Trying for 9 days, to setup my cbq, but still i am getting this errro "RTNETLINK answers: No such file or directory".... Help please. i am new with linux.
[01:13] <iNcrease> intuitivenipple, i think so ... its on my motherboard .. and its only 1 and half year old ...
[01:13] <Catsceo> nano: yes, my iBook G3 only runs Ubuntru Server 7.04
[01:13] <UbunVIA> DimitrisC: I have Unichrome9 HC IGP video on a notebook im trying to install ubuntu on, Now, in the forums, everyone talks about it not working because VIA did not release the source for the drivers. Alast! VIA released the source dated 16th of this Month, So i have the drivers, I have the Ubuntu, and i have 800x600 in Vesa.. How do i install them properly, there are no Ubuntu Specific directions, only fedora, etc. But it says it is supported..
[01:13] <nanoteker> decent
[01:13] <jburd> I can hear myself speak using the mic but the recording software can't pick it up?
[01:13] <nanoteker> but it's not intelmac is it?
[01:14] <jburd> Could someone please look into this?
[01:14] <iNcrease> intuitivenipple, i know for sure that my network works cause iam on my desktop pc on the same router ... so the only thing possible can be is that he doesnt find the card drivers....
[01:14] <Catsceo> the one with Ubuntu?, no
[01:14] <stuart87> stefg: The only repos that are commented are for software backports. Are there any others that i need to add?
[01:14] <nanoteker> wich build did you use?
[01:14] <jburd> I'm using Ubuntu 7.04
[01:14] <stefg> !easysource | stuart87
[01:14] <ubotu> stuart87: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:14] <nanoteker> ie. 386, etc
[01:14] <nanoteker> @catsceo
[01:14] <IntuitiveNipple> iNcrease: 1st, read through the "dmesg" boot messages, find the messages related to the network adaptor, then do an "lsmod" and look for occurances of module names that appear to be related to what you find in "dmesg"
[01:15] <Catsceo> PPC, thats what a G3 is
[01:15] <stefg> !ppc
[01:15] <ubotu> PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[01:15] <iNcrease> IntuitiveNipple, k ill take a look
[01:15] <nanoteker> shite...
[01:16] <nanoteker> maybe i'm using the wrong ubuntu build for parallels
[01:16] <nanoteker> maybe i need the ppc
[01:16] <nanoteker> i'm on a macbok pro
[01:16] <Catsceo> nano: ubuntu doesn't (for some reason) work in Parallels
[01:16] <Catsceo> do you have Parallels 3?
[01:16] <m0u5e> anyone know how to configure a wacom graphire 4 tablet in ubuntu feisty?
[01:16] <nanoteker> and am kinda n00bish since i can't get ubuntu on it
[01:16] <UbunVIA> DimitrisC: I have Unichrome9 HC IGP video on a notebook im trying to install ubuntu on, Now, in the forums, everyone talks about it not working because VIA did not release the source for the drivers. Alast! VIA released the source dated 16th of this Month, So i have the drivers, I have the Ubuntu, and i have 800x600 in Vesa.. How do i install them properly, there are no Ubuntu Specific directions, only fedora, etc. But it says it is supported..
[01:17] <nanoteker> yeah, parallels 3
[01:17] <matti_> could you recommend a good boot manager program?
[01:17] <matti_> so that i can boot ubuntu and windows from same HD
[01:17] <Catsceo> GRUB?
[01:17] <stefg> !grub
[01:17] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:18] <DimitrisC> UbunVIA: I can't help you sorry. There is a tutorial here http://www.hombrepac.com.ar/software-libre/linux/how-to-via-k8m890-chrome-9-igp-and-linuxs-xorg-ubuntu-edgy-610/ for a via card for edgy. Maybe the procedure is the same.
[01:18] <greedo> hi
[01:18] <negatifzeo> Anyone want to help a buntu noob?
[01:19] <greedo> what's the status of compiz-fuzion reguarding ubuntu ? will it be part of gutsy ?
[01:19] <greedo> and please, can someone remind me the name of the irc channel ?
[01:19] <greedo> :)
[01:19] <needle> negatifzeo:just ask :0)
[01:20] <bnnagabhushan> does ubuntu support ati radeon 9550??
[01:20] <negatifzeo> I downloaded and installed kubuntu on my macbook, but now Ive tried out gnome and like it better. Can I permanently remove KDE at this point without breaking something?
[01:20] <BuddyCarlyle> I'm stepping out on a limb here and gonna say.... #compiz-fuzion
[01:21] <SlimG> Is there a CLI app to slowdown another command? like: $ slowmotion --speed=500MHz --command="toofastcommand"
[01:21] <stefg> negatifzeo: just install the ubuntu-desktop metapackage. If you aren't short of diskspace you can leave KDE as a second option, dfoesn't hurt
[01:21] <bnnagabhushan> does ubuntu support ati radeon 9550??
[01:21] <stefg> !ati
[01:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:21] <stefg> !faq
[01:21] <ubotu> A list of common questions and answers about Ubuntu: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions - Official documentation: http://help.ubuntu.com - IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[01:22] <bnnagabhushan> does ubuntu support ati radeon 9550??
[01:22] <negatifzeo> stefg:Actually, I am kinda short on disk space
[01:22] <BuddyCarlyle> !ati > bnnagabhushan
[01:23] <bnnagabhushan> yup
[01:23] <SlimG> !repeat | bnnagabhushan
[01:23] <ubotu> bnnagabhushan: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:23] <Enselic> bnnagabhushan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsAti
[01:23] <stefg> negatifzeo: then go through your packages with synaptic. even on gnome you're likely to run some KDE apps (k3b) so just uninstall konqueror, kicker and stuff
[01:25] <negatifzeo> stefg:Great, thank you. Any ideas on how to remove KDE itself?
[01:26] <assajdn> -j utopia-shells
[01:27] <stefg> negatifzeo: KDE itself? KDE is nothing but a bunch of K* -applications... you can uninstall kdelibs, this will take all the dependant KDE stuff with it. but as i said, you might still be interested in k3b or amaroK
[01:27] <bnnagabhushan> had ur lunch??
[01:27] <BuddyCarlyle> negatifzeo, check this out ... http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[01:27] <bobodclown> Hey guys, what kernel version should i be running for feisty and how do i find out? :)
[01:28] <pyrops> hey
[01:28] <IntuitiveNipple> bobodclown: "uname -a"
[01:28] <bnnagabhushan> had ur lunch??
[01:28] <pyrops> how can i get an image to work (.bin / .cue)
[01:28] <IntuitiveNipple> bobodclown: 2.6.20
[01:28] <negatifzeo> buddyCarlyle:I'm aware of this page, but I was under the impression it was referring to KDE installed over ubuntu, whereas I installed gnome after first installing kubuntu. Is this a relevant difference?
[01:28] <stefg> bobodclown: you should run the one from the repos . if you have the linux-image-generic metapackage installed everything should be good
[01:29] <bobodclown> IntuitiveNippple: Thanks again man,
[01:29] <stefg> bnnagabhushan: stop spamming/trolling, please
[01:29] <trumpen> how do I find which version of gcc has been used to compile the currently used kernel? thanks!
[01:29] <trumpen> !
[01:30] <vnese> !eclipse
[01:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eclipse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:30] <vnese> !pdt
[01:30] <Eruantalon> Is there no straight forward way to use bluetooth for file transfer in Ubuntu(like there is in Kubuntu where you just type bluetooth:/ in konqueror and there it is)?
[01:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pdt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:30] <BuddyCarlyle> negatifzeo, I would just uninstall kde and then install gnome (if gnome is what you want)
[01:31] <assajdn> can some1 help me pls
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> buddy why uninstall when you can have both?
[01:31] <assajdn> how can i change a server
[01:31] <pyrops> how can i get an image to work (.bin / .cue)
[01:31] <assajdn> to undernet
[01:31] <Eruantalon> trumpen, I would guess that cat /proc/version would tell you thar
[01:31] <Eruantalon> that
[01:31] <iNcrease> IntuitiveNipple, mzz i looked everywhere to find a device i only found in dmesg the eth0 ...
[01:32] <BuddyCarlyle> Jack_Sparrow, didn't he want to remove kde?   perhaps I wasn't following close enough
[01:32] <Jack_Sparrow> fyi I am on flaky wireless this am..
[01:32] <IntuitiveNipple> iNcrease: Did you see a line similar to " e100: eth0: e100_probe: addr 0xd2005000, irq 22, MAC addr 00:13:A9:86:51:BD"
[01:33] <BuddyCarlyle> negatifzeo, nevermind, just forget it.  Sorry to bother
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> BuddyCarlyle: I came in late it was me that hadnt caught up
[01:33] <Eruantalon> pyrops, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountIso?highlight=%28iso%29
[01:33] <iNcrease> IntuitiveNipple, nope only thing i found was this [   75.287961]  eth0: no IPv6 routers present at the last line of dmesg
[01:33] <Eruantalon> Is there no straight forward way to use bluetooth for file transfer in Ubuntu(like there is in Kubuntu where you just type bluetooth:/ in konqueror and there it is)?
[01:34] <IntuitiveNipple> iNcrease: try this: "dmesg | grep eth0" see if a driver is reported as loading for it
[01:34] <anubis974> i want to know if it's possible to connect my pda with bluetooth to my desktop pc ??
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Eruantalon: you could always add kubuntu desktop or try to add konq to ubuntu
[01:35] <iNcrease> IntuitiveNipple,  eth0: forcedeth.c: subsystem: 01462:7125 bound to 0000:00:0a.0   eth0: no IPv6 routers present that all he finds...
[01:35] <IntuitiveNipple> iNcrease: haha! progress :)
[01:35] <iNcrease> IntuitiveNipple, it is? :o
[01:35] <sarthor> Hi, Trying for 9 days, to setup my cbq, but still i am getting this errro "RTNETLINK answers: No such file or directory".... Help please. i am new with linux.
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> what is cbq
[01:36] <jetscreamer> heh that's what i thought
[01:36] <IntuitiveNipple> iNcrease: what kernel version are you using?
[01:36] <IntuitiveNipple> (uname -a)
[01:36] <Eruantalon> Jack_Sparrow, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop is already running. But one should think that something as basic as bluetooth was supported in ubuntu without having to resort to kde
[01:37] <iNcrease> IntuitiveNipple,  2.6.20-16-generic
[01:37] <jetscreamer> it is supported. fix it up.
[01:37] <iNcrease> IntuitiveNipple, linux 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Jun 7 19:00:28 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:37] <IntuitiveNipple> okay... Feisty 64-bit then?
[01:37] <iNcrease> jup
[01:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Eruantalon: Priorities must be established..  dev's working on other things, they will get to it..
[01:38] <Lustblader> hi every1
[01:39] <pyrops> Eruantalon: but how do i open the file?
[01:39] <tatters> Gnome screensavers work fine no problem, Kubuntu screensavers just give me a blank screen :(
[01:39] <Lustblader> know any way to run the upgrade from the cd i got???
[01:40] <Loady> Hi. im having problems with my pcmcia memory card. I get pccard: PCMCIA card inserted into slot 0
[01:40] <Loady> pcmcia: registering new device pcmcia0.0
[01:40] <jetscreamer> tatters: glxinfo work well? reports your_vendor is supplying glx and glcore?
[01:40] <gigabytes> hello
[01:40] <Loady> but i cant find any usable blockdevice
[01:41] <gigabytes> I installed ubuntu server on a laptop
[01:41] <IntuitiveNipple> iNcrease: When you plug in the cable, do you see any new notification messages appear in the /var/log/kern.log
[01:41] <gigabytes> and then I installed xserver-xorg
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Loady: what card is it?
[01:41] <Eruantalon> Jack_Sparrow, well it seems important though...
[01:41] <jetscreamer> install xorg, not xserver-xorg
[01:41] <jetscreamer> apt-get install xorg
[01:41] <gigabytes> but now I can't tell xorg to use the monitor resolution of 1280x800
[01:41] <Eruantalon> pyrops, What do you mean. You wanted to mount the file right?
[01:41] <jetscreamer> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg though
[01:42] <pyrops> Eruantalon: i just want to view the file, its a movie im talking about
[01:42] <howlingmadhowie> trumpen: i'd have thought it would be easy, but i can't find a simple way to do it...
[01:42] <gigabytes> jetscreamer: I edited the xorg.conf file
[01:42] <jetscreamer> hwinfo --monitor first, or just chose medium when it asks
[01:42] <jetscreamer> ahh
[01:42] <Gecko> gigabytes: You can also just add the resolution to your /etc/xorg.conf
[01:42] <jetscreamer> hand edit?
[01:42] <iNcrease> IntuitiveNipple, yes bunch off messages
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Eruantalon: it always seems more important to the people that want/need it
[01:42] <Loady> Jack_Sparrow: its a smart modular technologies 20MB flash card.
[01:42] <gigabytes> yes but
[01:42] <Gecko> gigabytes: but you have to make sure that the vertical and horizontal refresh is correct
[01:42] <IntuitiveNipple> iNcrease: along the lines of "yay! a new network connection has appeared!" ? :)
[01:42] <SlimG> Is there a CLI app to slowdown another command? like: $ slowmotion --speed=500MHz --command="toofastcommand"
[01:42] <jetscreamer> or just comment out the v&h rates
[01:42] <gigabytes> whatever I write on the xorg.conf file the resolution still is 1024x768
[01:42] <Eruantalon> pyrops, Ok, well then you probably don't have to mount it first. Try opening it with mplayer or vlc
[01:43] <Gecko> SlimG: why do you need that?
[01:43] <jahid_> can anyone tell me how can i install yahoo messenger in my ubuntu Feisty?
[01:43] <BuddyCarlyle> gigabytes, did you do the     sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[01:43] <pyrops> Eruantalon:  :) cheers.. u made me feel like a fish
[01:43] <jahid_> No other supplementary messenger, i want to install yahoo messenger
[01:44] <gigabytes> BuddyCarlyle: but I don't know the refresh rate of the monitor
[01:44] <tatters> http://pastebin.com/m23630f7e  <--my glxinfo
[01:44] <Eruantalon> Jack_Sparrow, Of course. But with the amount of people having bluetooth enabled cellphones nowadays there should be a demand for it. I think. The least they could do was the include the kde packages for it to work...
[01:44] <iNcrease> IntuitiveNipple, mzz dont see that kind of message
[01:44] <SlimG> Gecko: to slowdown a command that extracts itself into a temp folder, crashes and purges the temp folder before I get a chance to get a hold of the files it extracts
[01:44] <Eruantalon> pyrops, fish?
[01:44] <pyrops> Eruantalon: i.e dumb
[01:44] <iNcrease> IntuitiveNipple, or something that says connection succeed or stuff...
[01:44] <jetscreamer> bluetooth works fine
[01:44] <desper> getting Error message from SunRay Thin Client Help me plz
[01:44] <SlimG> Gecko: s/command/application/
[01:44] <jetscreamer> you don't need kde
[01:44] <tatters> jetscreamer: does that look ok to you?
[01:44] <jetscreamer> but you do need fingers
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Eruantalon: this isnt the discussion room. I understand the need and your desire for it.
[01:45] <IntuitiveNipple> iNcrease: I was using artistic license... does it say something like "link up, 100Mbps,  full-duplex"
[01:45] <IntuitiveNipple> iNcrease: and "eth0: link becomes ready"
[01:45] <Eruantalon> Pyrops, well you gotta know it to know ir
[01:45] <Eruantalon> it
[01:45] <Gecko> SlimG: hmm, there are no such application. What kind of file is the extractor?
[01:45] <jetscreamer> tatters: looks just fine
[01:45] <tatters> k thnx
[01:45] <howlingmadhowie> trumpen: i've tried a readelf -a on some of the kernel modules, but there's no information as to the version of gcc used to compile them
[01:46] <Javid> Hi. How do i downgrade a package? I tried apt-get downgrade and it didn't work
[01:46] <sarthor> Hi, Trying for 9 days, to setup my cbq, but still i am getting this errro "RTNETLINK answers: No such file or directory".... Help please. i am new with linux.
[01:46] <desper>  getting Error message from SunRay Thin Client Help me plz
[01:46] <jetscreamer> tatters: with nvidia what you don't want is for it to say mesa in there
[01:46] <Eruantalon> jetscreamer, Are you refering to the commandline way that is described in the wiki
[01:46] <iNcrease> IntuitiveNipple, i know but i dont see that i see lot of things like eg: Loaded 25651 symbols from /boot/System.map-2.6.20-16-generic.  No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled....
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> jahid: If you must have the windows, yahoo messenger you might try winehq and see what they can do
[01:46] <IntuitiveNipple> iNcrease: Ahhh... what about at the *end* of the file
[01:46] <SlimG> Gecko: Well, I'm need to slowdown wine when executing a .exe
[01:46] <IntuitiveNipple> iNcrease: Try this: "tail -n 50 /var/log/kern.log"
[01:47] <jetscreamer> Eruantalon: all i know is i have bluetooth set up natively on my laptop and i have never used bluetooth/ir in my life
[01:47] <emile> are dapper universe/web packages being maintained for security issues? (in my case, is it wise to install wordpress from the repository?)
[01:47] <jahid_> Jack_Sparrow, ok
[01:47] <jetscreamer> so it 'just works'(tm)
[01:47] <Eruantalon> jetscreamer, Well it doesn't say anything about actually doing anything file transfers with it
[01:47] <desper>  getting Error message from SunRay Thin Client Help me pl
[01:48] <Eruantalon> jetscreamer, I am able to spot my phone via bluetooth but thats it
[01:48] <IntuitiveNipple> emile: I believe they are, there was a developers discussion the other day regarding what goes into the Dapper LTS updates
[01:48] <seamus7> how do I make permanent a set of iptables rules I'm using to open ports?
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> guarddog
[01:48] <Eruantalon> seamus7, You could make a script with the commands that start at boot time
[01:49] <iNcrease> IntuitiveNipple,  eth0: no IPv6 routers present  NFSD: starting 90-second grace period ..
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> seamus7: firestarter also
[01:49] <jetscreamer> ah so it's not that it doesn't work it's that it's not configured properly
[01:49] <sarthor> Hi, Trying for 9 days, to setup my cbq, but still i am getting this errro "RTNETLINK answers: No such file or directory".... Help please. i am new with linux.
[01:49] <iNcrease> IntuitiveNipple,  found sonthing
[01:49] <gigabytes> Gecko: I don't have refresh rate lines in my xorg.conf
[01:49] <IntuitiveNipple> iNcrease: Is there no messages just before that one about the connection coming up?
[01:49] <jetscreamer> sarthor: so did you ever say what cbq is? i mised it
[01:50] <Eruantalon> jetscreamer, What do I know. I am not in the habit of bruteforcing config files...
[01:50] <gigabytes> Gecko: what can I do? it is always 1024x768
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> sarthor: you will be trying longer if you cant answer simple questions
[01:50] <gigabytes> Gecko: can it be a matter of driver?
[01:50] <jetscreamer> read lines 14-17 of xorg.conf
[01:50] <iNcrease> IntuiteveNipple, only about my hard drive ...
[01:50] <sarthor> jetscreamer, Class based Queuing
[01:50] <jetscreamer> dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[01:51] <sarthor> Jack_Sparrow,  i am not good with english too.
[01:51] <deathnall> hello?
[01:51] <jetscreamer> know thy v&h rates or just choose medium
[01:51] <deathnall> hiii
[01:51] <deathnall> omg
[01:51] <deathnall> at last
[01:51] <sarthor> Jack_Sparrow, because its not my maternal language. nor i am much educated.
[01:51] <deathnall> ui mgith be able to get help
[01:51] <jetscreamer> apt-get install read-edid mdetect also
[01:51] <gigabytes> jetscreamer: I'll try
[01:51] <deathnall> hi
[01:51] <Gecko> SlimG: hmm, you can try to give it a really low priority (+20 is lowest). So you can try starting the wine process, finding the process number with ps ax, and then running renice +20 followed by the proccess id
[01:51] <deathnall> umm
[01:51] <deathnall> ok i installed unbuntu
[01:51] <Gecko> gigabytes: hangon a sec
[01:51] <jetscreamer> \o/
[01:51] <deathnall> and i have no idea what im doing
[01:51] <deathnall> the only thing i have figure out
[01:51] <sarthor> Jack_Sparrow, what kind of questions i have to answer??
[01:51] <Lustblader> congrats deathnall
[01:51] <deathnall> is package manager
[01:51] <deathnall> thnx btw
[01:52] <deathnall> i love linux
[01:52] <Lustblader> no props deathnall
[01:52] <deathnall> oo and i installed the nvidia drivers
[01:52] <deathnall> using a programme
[01:52] <deathnall> ok
[01:52] <Lustblader> restricted drivers?? ;)
[01:52] <deathnall> please can someone help me
[01:52] <deathnall> i need to know what the hell im doing
[01:52] <Gecko> gigabytes: they are supposed to be under the section "Monitor" as Horizsync and Vertrefresh
[01:52] <iNcrease> IntuitiveNipple, mzz i got the problem i think .. when i try for ifconfig he only gives me 0.0.000...
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> sarthor: what is cbq sounds like easy question.  If you cant answer that you probably wont understand the answer.  We have channels in your loanguage.
[01:52] <jburd> Right.  So how many of you folks are able to record sound using a microphone?
[01:52] <Lustblader> what's the problem? deathnall
[01:52] <BuddyCarlyle> right now you're chatting
[01:53] <deathnall> u see i downloaded a game
[01:53] <westguy> anyone know how to install java plug in for firefox
[01:53] <deathnall> and i cant see it at all
[01:53] <iNcrease> IntuitiveNipple, thats prob. the problem ... he doesn't assign an ip ... or getaway etc..
[01:53] <jburd> westguy: sudo apt-get install sun-java-jre should do it.
[01:53] <BuddyCarlyle> or causing a distraction depending on the disposition of some
[01:53] <SlimG> Gecko: Thanks for the tip, too bad the app is way too quick for me to detect pid
[01:53] <deathnall> i downloaded a game called
[01:53] <gumjo> hello, whats the default location of executables when I compile from source?
[01:53] <sarthor> Jack_Sparrow, there is not channel in Pashto. And I have read its manual, but am unable to understand. I want to shape my traffice with the help of CBQ
[01:53] <jburd> sun-java6-jre I think
[01:54] <Lustblader> did u download using apt get?? deathnall
[01:54] <jburd> gumpish:  /usr/local/bin
[01:54] <Ind[y] > How can I add a city at GNOME Weather Applet?
[01:54] <deathnall> i dont know lol
[01:54] <deathnall> all i did was click it
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > deathnall:
[01:54] <westguy> downloaded but not sure how to install
[01:54] <deathnall> then i applied it
[01:54] <jburd> gumjo:
[01:54] <deathnall> and then i saw a bar
[01:54] <jetscreamer> try apt-cache search java|grep plugin then install it
[01:54] <BuddyCarlyle> indy in preferences
[01:54] <Lustblader> ok good
[01:54] <deathnall> and then i closed it once it had finished
[01:54] <jburd> gumjo: That however depends on what you used to compile the program.   Did you use the configure script?
[01:54] <gumjo> oh ok got that thanks
[01:54] <gumjo> Yes, I found it
[01:54] <Gecko> SlimG: you can actually type nice -n 19 command
[01:54] <Lustblader> deathnall: i think the problem might be that it's not been included in your menu yet
[01:54] <jetscreamer> sun-java6-plugin
[01:54] <deathnall> yea
[01:54] <Gecko> SlimG: that might do it
[01:54] <Lustblader> deathnall: that's all
[01:54] <BuddyCarlyle> Ind[y] ,  under the location tab
[01:55] <jetscreamer> see also java5
[01:55] <deathnall> ok so i  went to add and remove programmes
[01:55] <Eruantalon> deathnall, We can't really help you find it if you don't know what you are missing
[01:55] <deathnall> thats where i gota go right?
[01:55] <Ind[y] > BuddyCarlyle: No, I mean can I add a city which isn't listed at the applet?
[01:55] <richard_> hi
[01:55] <deathnall> o yeah let me look
[01:55] <jburd> gumjo: You can change the default location by using this option     configure --prefix=/wherever/you/want/it/to/land
[01:55] <Eruantalon> deathnall, To install programs YES
[01:55] <richard__> can someone help me
[01:55] <BuddyCarlyle> nope, have to use the closest alternative
[01:55] <IntuitiveNipple> iNcrease: The link should come up regardless... getting an IP is done later... if the link is coming up then I'd suspect the cable or the connectors are bad
[01:55] <tatters> cbq=Class Based Queuing?
[01:56] <Lustblader> deathnall: just right click on the applications button and vlick edit menu
[01:56] <jburd> richard__:  You'll need to ask your question.
[01:56] <BuddyCarlyle> or furthest away alternative if you like to live daring
[01:56] <richard__> i want to use amsn to do remote desktop
[01:56] <Lustblader> n check there
[01:56] <Ramy> how i can print on both sides of the paper and  2pages/paper in the same time, my printer HP Deskjet F380 ?
[01:56] <Lustblader> deathnall: most likely it just didn't get added to the list
[01:56] <jburd> I doubt aMSN does remote desktop.  @ richard__
[01:56] <IntuitiveNipple> sarthor: The error "RTNETLINK answers: No such file or directory" means you've got an error in the tc command
[01:56] <deathnall> ok the game is called tremulous
[01:56] <deathnall> sorry all but im so new
[01:56] <IntuitiveNipple> sarthor: Generally it means you referenced a handle that does not exist
[01:57] <iNcrease> IntuitiveNipple, i dont see anywhere in the log link up only for my hard drive (1.5 gbps  link up)...
[01:57] <richard__> on the tab before the last one, on preference
[01:57] <richard__> scrool down to the bottom
[01:57] <Lustblader> deathnall: i installed ubuntu 4 days ago
[01:57] <IntuitiveNipple> iNcrease: Have you got an alternate cable to test it?
[01:57] <deathnall> cool
[01:57] <richard__> and you can tick the remote desktop
[01:57] <Lustblader> deathnall: i'm learning as i go
[01:57] <BuddyCarlyle> here's a neat idea.... post your moms house in there and call her up and tell her you're enjoying the weather.
[01:57] <deathnall> cool
[01:57] <jburd> richard_, what are you trying to do?   View the desktop on another computer?
[01:57] <deathnall> yeah but i was such a windows freak
[01:57] <richard__> yes
[01:57] <seamus7> Is this syntax correct for saving my current iptables configuration: iptables-save > /etc/iptables.up.rules
[01:58] <jburd> richard__:  There is a program called tsclient that does exactly that.  Try using it.
[01:58] <Lustblader> deathnall:  ok this is gonna sound girly but............. me to!!!!
[01:58] <sarthor> IntuitiveNipple, I have isntall shaper with apt-get install shaper, i have made no change.
[01:58] <iNcrease> IntuitiveNipple, only this one ... and the one from my desk to the router ... but i try to replace them brb...
[01:58] <deathnall> can i ask then
[01:58] <sarthor> IntuitiveNipple, I have tried my level best but am unable to run this.
[01:58] <richard__> ok  jburd, but how do i install it
[01:58] <Lustblader> ask what/
[01:58] <deathnall> in the package manager. is every software available for download, compatible with unbuntu
[01:59] <jburd> richard_  Alt-F2    then type tsclient
[01:59] <bimmelim> I am having problems formatting a usb  memory stick using ubuntu. I umount and use fdisk/cfdisk. When I take the stick out and reinsert it, the old data is still on it.
[01:59] <Lustblader> yup deathnall
[01:59] <IntuitiveNipple> sarthor: I'm sorry, it isn't something I'm familiar enough with to help you... you'll need to locate the script that is issuing the 'tc' command and investigate
[01:59] <dcordes> !restricted
[01:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:59] <deathnall> ok
[01:59] <Eruantalon> deathnall, yes
[01:59] <deathnall> so i have installed the game
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> deathnall: yes
[01:59] <deathnall> where is it lol
[01:59] <deathnall> i searched for it in add and remove
[01:59] <deathnall> let me double check for it
[01:59] <sarthor> IntuitiveNipple, Ok.
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > deathnall:
[02:00] <Lustblader> deathnall: try root/usr/games
[02:00] <Ramy> how i can print on both sides of the paper and  2pages/paper in the same time, my printer HP Deskjet F380 ?
[02:00] <Eruantalon> deathnall, Try opening up a terminal and typing the name of the game and then hit enter. If the program start then you have installed it correctly and you need to add a shortcut to the menu
[02:00] <deathnall> ok
[02:00] <AKsay> Hi all! Is there something for beryl / frglx / fiesty ?
[02:00] <jburd> Oh, that's something I'd like to do with my network printer too.
[02:00] <deathnall> lert me see
[02:00] <deathnall> how do i open up a terminal
[02:00] <deathnall> ?
[02:01] <Lustblader> accesories/terminal
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter
[02:01] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:01] <richard__> jburd
[02:01] <Eruantalon> Lustblader, fast typer you are
[02:01] <richard__> on this windows
[02:01] <richard__> it asked me the name of the computer
[02:01] <deathnall> ok so i have a terminal open
[02:01] <richard__> what should i enter
[02:01] <Lustblader> Eruantalon: great name you have
[02:01] <deathnall> do i just type the gmase name
[02:01] <deathnall> game name sorry
[02:01] <Eruantalon> Lustblader, Thanks
[02:02] <Eruantalon> deathnall, yup
[02:02] <deathnall> ok
[02:02] <jburd> richard__, the IP address of that computer.
[02:02] <gigabytes> jetscreamer: I can't do that
[02:02] <NETWizz> Ubuntu has 1119 files to upgrade
[02:02] <HEP85> Where do I find the Next-Key on my keyboard or mouse?
[02:02] <Lustblader> ok.. my turn.. how to get my cd to auto run???
[02:02] <richard__> ok thank you
[02:02] <fusio> hi, I have a relatively fresh install of feisty (installed yesterday), whenever i play games the sound gets all chopped up, I'm using an onboard MCP51 sound card
[02:02] <NETWizz> to get to Fiesty
[02:02] <gigabytes> jetscreamer: I do that command
[02:02] <IntuitiveNipple> sarthor: When do get this error? When the PC starts, in a log-file ?
[02:02] <NETWizz> That is a lot
[02:02] <deathnall> holy crumbs
[02:02] <gigabytes> jetscreamer: then I read the output of parse-edid
[02:02] <deathnall> that was so flpin easy
[02:02] <deathnall> wow!!
[02:02] <NETWizz> night
[02:02] <deathnall> thhnx
[02:03] <Jeebus> anyone know why doing advanced options -> rendering platform -> force AIGLX breaks beryl when using a radeon 9600 card? Even after reverting the settings back beryl crashes/does not start
[02:03] <jburd> Well, I'd appreciate it if someone could help me record sound
[02:03] <gigabytes> but now what have I to do?
[02:03] <sarthor> IntuitiveNipple, where i start shaper with the command /etc/init.d/shaper start then i got that error of No Directotyr
[02:03] <jburd> Audacity doesn't seem to work.
[02:03] <deathnall> ok so herer a good question
[02:03] <jetscreamer> gigabytes: explain again? what did you do?
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> deathnall: what part of stop using the enter key as punctuation do you mot understand
[02:03] <fluffles> when installing nvidia drivers on commandline they get installed on the 'volatile' mountpoint, thus after reboot it can't find nvidia.ko. how can i fix this?
[02:03] <deathnall> why isnt it in my shortcuts and how do i put it in my shortcuts
[02:04] <deathnall> sorry i will keep it down
[02:04] <gigabytes> jetscreamer: I did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and put in the dialog the frequency and resolution data retrieved with read-edid
[02:04] <Lustblader> deathnall: go to applications button
[02:04] <sarthor> IntuitiveNipple, RTNETLINK answers: No such file or directory
[02:04] <Lustblader> rightclick it>select edit menus
[02:04] <gigabytes> jetscreamer: but xorg still start at 1024x768
[02:04] <iNcrease> intuitivenipple, k i made some progress i have now this thing low right screen that keeps going round he detects the cable ... :) i replaced the one with an old cable ...
[02:04] <IntuitiveNipple> sarthor: What Ubuntu version?
[02:04] <Lustblader> the go look in the games tab..n just tick it deathnall
[02:04] <gravemin1> what's that thing you have to do after you edit menu.list?
[02:04] <desper> Any One have any idea about srss3.1.1 on ubuntu
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> deathnall: It isnt a big deal right now but with 1000 plus users this place gets crazy..
[02:04] <IntuitiveNipple> iNcrease: So it was a fault cable then?
[02:04] <sarthor> 7.04 feisty
[02:05] <Lustblader> gravemin1: save it?
[02:05] <sarthor> IntuitiveNipple, 7.04 feisty
[02:05] <iNcrease> intuitivenipple, kind of think he was broke ... well got one problem left lol :p i dont get an ip assigned ...
[02:05] <gravemin1> Lustblader: there's some kind of command afterwards
[02:05] <deathnall> ok i am on it, wow thnx. it worked. ok and sorry to be a pain but how  do i get this 3d app to run its called ummm i will try and getthe name of it.
[02:05] <jetscreamer> gigabytes: nono.. :)  you were only supposed to install read-edid ... you would install hwinfo, and run hwinfo --monitor to get the v&h rates... make sure xorg isn't running when you do... you can also just choose medium instead of advanced, and choose a resolution
[02:05] <gravemin1> Lustblader: that prevents foul ups later on
[02:05] <IntuitiveNipple> sarthor: I've just installed it here, and it appears to work fine... I do "/etc/init.d/shaper start" and get "Starting CBQ traffic shaping: no configuration files found in /etc/shaper/."
[02:05] <Lustblader> gravemin1: what menu is it?
[02:05] <gravemin1> Lustblader: grub menu
[02:05] <iNcrease> IntuitiveNipple, he just keeps going round and round ... searching for network... if  i try ifconfig he gives me blanc lines ...
[02:06] <IntuitiveNipple> iNcrease: OK, but at least you *should* be able to get one
[02:06] <sarthor> i have created config. file there in /etc/shaper
[02:06] <iNcrease> intuitiveNipple, mzz ok ill just wait :)
[02:06] <gigabytes> jetscreamer: but if I chose medium I don't get in the list the resolution of 1280x800 @ 60Hz but only 1280x960 @ 60Hz
[02:06] <IntuitiveNipple> iNcrease: Does your router run a DHCP server for your network?
[02:06] <gigabytes> jetscreamer: however I've already tried to use the "medium" configuration but it does not work
[02:07] <iNcrease> IntuitiveNipple, yes
[02:07] <IntuitiveNipple> sarthor: So, the problem is in the commands in your config file.
[02:07] <sarthor> IntuitiveNipple, Can you please any config file there and rerun it.
[02:07] <iNcrease> IntuitiveNipple, he has dhcp... if its running .. i dont knwo :p
[02:07] <Lustblader> gravemin1: you just need to save it
[02:07] <jetscreamer> gigabytes: ok. then apt-get install hwinfo, then run hwinfo --monitor ... the values will be on the end of the output.
[02:07] <gigabytes> jetscreamer: I'll try
[02:07] <jetscreamer> make sur exorg isn't running when you run it gigabytes
[02:07] <gigabytes> ok
[02:07] <Lustblader> gravemin1: did u edit it as root?
[02:08] <sarthor> IntuitiveNipple, where to paste my config file.
[02:08] <IntuitiveNipple> iNcrease: check "tail -n 30 /var/log/syslog"
[02:08] <jetscreamer> gigabytes: alternatively i find googling just the monitor's model number gives good result
[02:08] <Lustblader> sudo gedit menu.lst
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> later people.. play nice
[02:08] <jetscreamer> !paste
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[02:08] <IntuitiveNipple> sarthor: I can't help you with the config-file, I've just installed shaper to see how it behaves for me. Sounds like you need to read the documentation and do some Googling
[02:08] <vicox> how can i see which program is blocking my soundcard?
[02:08] <aldin> how to find out what MHz is my DDR2 RAM?
[02:08] <humbolto> I am trying to setup a pptp DSL link on edgy. pptp 10.0.0.138 .... works but I can't get "sudo pon PROVIDER-NAME" to work
[02:08] <aldin> over terminal
[02:09] <gigabytes> jetscreamer: ok I've run it
[02:09] <humbolto> It tells me : Child process pptp 10.0.0.138 --nolaunchpppd (pid xxx) terminated with signal 15
[02:09] <gigabytes> jetscreamer: now I have some numbers what do I do with them?
[02:09] <gravemin1> does anybody know which command to run after editing /boot/grub/menu.lst (to prevent future foul ups) ?
[02:10] <Lustblader> nothing gravemin1
[02:10] <Mozillero071> hola
[02:10] <jetscreamer> ok gigabytes at the bottom it should tell you your v&h rates... write em down and use em in the advanced section
[02:10] <humbolto> Which should mean: The link was terminated because the peer is not responding to echo requests.
[02:10] <Mozillero071> hola
[02:10] <humbolto> Which is not true.
[02:10] <jetscreamer> when you dpkg-reconfigure
[02:10] <Ricky-77> hola gente
[02:10] <gigabytes> jetscreamer: there are a _lot_ of numbers at the end of the output actually
[02:10] <iNcrease> IntuitiveNipple, mzz i know its a pppoe but don't see anything about dhcp into the log...
[02:11] <gigabytes> jetscreamer: there are three numbers in the Frequency: line
[02:11] <gravemin1> Lustblader: lol ok. I'm editing away then!
[02:11] <jetscreamer> gigabytes: it's a range
[02:11] <jetscreamer> from 30-180 for instance
[02:11] <howlingmadhowie> aldin: have a look at lshw. you may have to install it
[02:12] <tunafisu> I rebooted while a disk was being scanned for errors, and now grub won't load. I managed to boot a live disk. What to do to fix things?
[02:12] <IntuitiveNipple> iNcrease: When you described the NetworkManager applet icon image 'going round', was it the 2nd icon you meant? was the 1st icon already green?
[02:12] <jetscreamer> for instance, Vert. Sync Range: 50-180 Hz
[02:12] <Lustblader> gravemin1:  remember to edit as root
[02:12] <aldin> howlingmadhowie: ok
[02:12] <jetscreamer> Hor. Sync Range: 30-70 kHz
[02:12] <Ricky-77> ass hole
[02:12] <jetscreamer> those two are what you need
[02:12] <Ricky-77> fuck you
[02:12] <jetscreamer> not the 3rd
[02:12] <gravemin1> Lustblader: yup  gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:13] <deathnall> hey jack thnx for helping me out
[02:13] <iNcrease> IntuitiveNipple, it was a world globe with this arrow going around its kind of blue
[02:13] <Lustblader> gravemin1: sudo gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:13] <Lustblader> gravemin1: use sudo
[02:13] <jetscreamer> why would you sudo gksu
[02:13] <Lustblader> deathnall: woooot?? i don get a thank..
[02:13] <jetscreamer> oh nm
[02:13] <deathnall> so all i have to do to install programmes idownload them then go into a terminal and type the name of the programme?. i hope thats ok .
[02:13] <Lustblader> to edit the grub menu
[02:13] <deathnall> yes u do so thnx
[02:13] <gravemin1> Lustblader: gksu is better
[02:14] <gigabytes> jetscreamer: I don't have a range in the hwinfo output
[02:14] <gigabytes> I have three numbers
[02:14] <tunafisu> When i look at the disk on GParted, the whole disk shows up as unallocated. How to fix things?
[02:14] <jetscreamer> deathnall: yeah or do update-menus in the term and the shortcuts 'may' appear
[02:14] <IntuitiveNipple> iNcrease: oh... not what I thought then. I'm lost now, without being there to mess with it there's not much more I can suggest
[02:14] <seamus7> In Firestarter, it asks upon configuration if my IP address is assigned by DHCP. I gave my laptop a static IP. This means I would answer NO to Firestarter's question, yes??
[02:14] <jetscreamer> gigabytes: horiz & vert
[02:14] <gravemin1> Lustblader: remember, sudo for command line stuff, gksu for gui
[02:14] <IntuitiveNipple> seamus7: correct
[02:14] <seamus7> thx
[02:14] <Lustblader> i see
[02:14] <jetscreamer> at the bottom
[02:14] <gravemin1> Lustblader: if I were using nano, I'd do sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:14] <jetscreamer> nano -w
[02:14] <Lustblader> never knew that...
[02:14] <deathnall> ok well i have one thing called 3d desktop and i that isnt running as i typed the name in the terminal just now
[02:15] <iNcrease> IntuitiveNipple, ah np i just keep on searching what i can do to let it work :) ... thx for the help :):)
[02:15] <jetscreamer> that 3d desktop isn't really
[02:15] <gravemin1> jetscreamer: what's nano -w
[02:15] <jetscreamer> turns off word wrap
[02:15] <IntuitiveNipple> iNcrease: good luck!
[02:15] <Lustblader> gravemin1:  a very ugly editing tool
[02:15] <Lustblader> :-D
[02:15] <IntuitiveNipple> iNcrease: do some googling for forcedeth and dhcp
[02:15] <howlingmadhowie> gravemin1: i thought nano on ubuntu was configured to automatically not wrap.
[02:15] <jetscreamer> no idea
[02:15] <gravemin1> Lustblader: lol so w is wrap
[02:15] <iNcrease> IntuitiveNipple, k :)
[02:15] <gravemin1> got it
[02:16] <ConstyXIV> howlingmadhowie: afaik, it doesn't
[02:16] <gigabytes> jetscreamer:
[02:16] <gigabytes> Horizontal: 1280 1328 1360 1440 (+48 +80 +160) -hsync
[02:16] <gigabytes>        Vertical:  800  803  809  823 (+3 +9 +23) -vsync
[02:16] <Lustblader> i thought they were asking what's nano
[02:16] <gigabytes> those are the lines
[02:16] <deathnall> umm guys sorry to be a pain but how do i get 3ddesktop working?. sorry again
[02:16] <Lustblader> ok.. where are the downloaded updates save on my comp?????
[02:16] <Lustblader> saved*
[02:16] <jetscreamer> gigabytes: below that section, the "Driver Info #0" or so
[02:16] <Lustblader> the location i mean
[02:17] <jetscreamer> /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:17] <gigabytes> jetscreamer: I don't have a Driver Info line
[02:17] <Lustblader> thx jetscreamer
[02:17] <howlingmadhowie> ConstyXIV: well, there's one way to find out :)
[02:17] <tunafisu> HELP! I think I broke my partition table. How Can I recover it_
[02:17] <zyth> duct tape.
[02:17] <zyth> ;)
[02:17] <jahid_> if i want to export some environment variables automatically when i boot, where should i write? in fstab?
[02:17] <Jeebus> anyone know why doing advanced options -> rendering platform -> force AIGLX breaks beryl when using a radeon 9600 card? Even after reverting the settings back beryl crashes/does not start
[02:17] <stuart87> !repositries
[02:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repositries - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:17] <jetscreamer> gigabytes: try it as root, with sudo rather.. the command
[02:17] <jetscreamer> !repositories
[02:17] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[02:17] <stuart87> !repositories
[02:18] <stuart87> jetscreamer: ;-)
[02:18] <Jeebus> Window manager warning: "" found in configuration database is not a valid value for keybinding "toggle_shaded"
[02:18] <Jeebus> i get this error when trying to run beryl window manager
[02:18] <HEP85> tunafisu: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[02:18] <Lustblader> !suppositories
[02:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suppositories - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:18] <Lustblader> :)
[02:18] <Jeebus> anyone encounter it before?
[02:18] <gigabytes> jetscreamer: I already am as root
[02:19] <howlingmadhowie> ConstyXIV: on my test file, modifying it with nano didn't make it wrap words or lines :)
[02:19] <gravemin1> IntuitiveNipple: hey, anything else I should post for that buggy hibernate problem?
[02:19] <jetscreamer> gigabytes: i have no idea why you don't have that unless ubuntu hacked the package up which i doubt. you'll have to find the values via google or on the maker's website then. :(
[02:19] <stuart87> Where can i find the source repo for 915resolution???
[02:19] <gravemin1> IntuitiveNipple: also, someone said 1GB ram and 1GB swap may be insufficient for hibernation purposes, but I didn't really think they knwew what they were talking about
[02:19] <Lustblader> ok.. next time i reinstall my ubuntu.. how to direct it to the downloaded updates????
[02:20] <Lustblader> that i downloaded previously
[02:20] <jetscreamer> if you have a gig of ram you need a gig of swap just to write the hibernation image
[02:20] <jetscreamer> so you need >1g swap
[02:20] <gigabytes> jetscreamer: yes but
[02:20] <zyth> jetscreamer, actually 1.5x ram is recommended.
[02:20] <zyth> er swap
[02:20] <zyth> to ram. argh
[02:21] <gravemin1> jetscreamer: yeah I have exactly a gig of swap, do I need a little more? Crap, I have to shuffle the partitions all around now :)
[02:21] <jetscreamer> yes adding more ram is good :)
[02:21] <howlingmadhowie> ConstyXIV: oh, sorry. it does! you definitely need the -w tag in ubuntu :)
[02:21] <jetscreamer> gravemin1: just make a swapfile if it doesn't work atm
[02:21] <gravemin1> jetscreamer: how is that done?
[02:21] <IntuitiveNipple> iNcrease: I've found something might solve your problem... read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1466280&postcount=23
[02:21] <jmchaffie> Upgrading a PC, have the option of a Dual Core AMD 64. Is there any point if the person is running 32-bit Ubuntu Studio? Will 32-bit even recognize dual core, not to mention the 64-bit loss?
[02:21] <gigabytes> jetscreamer: are you sure that the problem is the frequency?
[02:21] <stuart87> Can someone please point me to a good sources.list? I really need the source repo for 915resolution???
[02:21] <jetscreamer> same way, cept you use dd to create the file then run mkswap on it
[02:22] <gravemin1> jetscreamer: anyway, I kinda doubt that my problem is swap related
[02:22] <stuart87> *source pkg
[02:22] <zyth> jmchaffie, um yes, 32bit still works with dual core
[02:22] <aldin> stuart87: official uuntu should work
[02:22] <IntuitiveNipple> gravemin1: No, you've given us enough for starters. It'll take a while to get round to working on it, there's tons of suspend/hibernate issues
[02:22] <jetscreamer> gigabytes: usually when you don't get resolutions that you 'know' work on your box, yes xorg doesn't detect the v&h rates quite properly...ymmv
[02:22] <fusio> hi, I have a relatively fresh install of feisty (installed yesterday), whenever i play games the sound gets all chopped up, I'm using an onboard MCP51 sound card
[02:22] <jmchaffie> zyth: I realize it will work with about anything, but will it *utilize* the cores, or just sit there using one of them is my question?
[02:22] <gravemin1> IntuitiveNipple: ugh, that's too bad for you guys. Are they mostly interrelated issues?
[02:23] <zyth> jmchaffie, yes, I have 32bit and dual core, with both cpus running.
[02:23] <jetscreamer> google swapfile restrict=linux if you ever want
[02:23] <gigabytes> jetscreamer: but so can't I use the output of hwinfo?
[02:23] <gravemin1> jetscreamer: the error I get is
[02:23] <gravemin1> atkbd.c: Spurious ACK on isa0060/serio0. Some program may be trying to access the hardware directly.
[02:23] <gravemin1> so I don't think it's the swap, or it'd say so
[02:23] <jetscreamer> gigabytes: the portion you need isn't there... you could maybe use those modelines and reverse engineer the rates (math) but i have no idea
[02:23] <stuart87> the preinstalled default sources.list had nothing
[02:24] <gravemin1> stuart87: have you tried enabling universe and multiverse through synaptic?
[02:24] <gigabytes> jetscreamer: can't I use the modelines directly into the xorg.conf file?
[02:24] <stuart87> whoa!!! huh?
[02:24] <jmchaffie> zyth: Thanks. Sorry if it's a noobish question, but I've personally not owned a dual / multi processor machine so I've not had the experience yet. Thanks a mint for the info!
[02:24] <iNcrease> IntuitiveNipple, LOL idd it works :o:o thx
[02:24] <zyth> jmchaffie, hey no worries :)
[02:24] <superkirbyartist> I can receive POP but cannot send SMTP in Evolutin.
[02:24] <superkirbyartist> I can receive POP but cannot send SMTP in Evolution.
[02:24] <superkirbyartist> Can anyone help please?
[02:24] <superkirbyartist> I can receive POP but cannot send SMTP in Evolution.
[02:24] <superkirbyartist>  Can anyone help please?
[02:25] <gravemin1> stuart87: system>administration>synaptic, then settings>repositories
[02:25] <superkirbyartist> I can receive POP but cannot send SMTP in Evolution.
[02:25] <superkirbyartist>  Can anyone help please?
[02:25] <IntuitiveNipple> iNcrease: Really?!?
[02:25] <iNcrease> IntuitiveNipple, yes ....
[02:25] <deathnall> umm guys i have managed to get a windows manager working but how do i run the 3ddesktop?
[02:25] <IntuitiveNipple> iNcrease: Do me a favour and report that as a bug will you?
[02:25] <gravemin1> superkirbyartist: stop being annoying, you hurt your chances somewhat
[02:25] <iNcrease> IntuitiveNipple, yes the globe stopped going round connected ..
[02:25] <gravemin1> superkirbyartist: have you checked that your setup is correct?
[02:25] <iNcrease> IntuitiveNipple, k i will do
[02:26] <jetscreamer> gigabytes: yes you can use modelines. i do not know if what you have from hwinfo works or not, never tried. ftp://x.org/pub/X11R7.0/doc/html/xorg.conf.5.html#sect9
[02:26] <IntuitiveNipple> iNcrease: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[02:26] <jmchaffie> superkirpyartist: Easy ... have you double checked for misspellings, etc?
[02:26] <deathnall> all i did was type the name of my windows manager in a terminal
[02:26] <IntuitiveNipple> iNcrease: then tell me the bug # in here
[02:26] <stuart87> gravemin1: I have no X :-( Thats why i need 915resolution
[02:26] <jetscreamer> deathnall: that 3ddesktop package isn't what you really want btw
[02:26] <anzan> Hi, everyone. I'm just lurking. No problems w Ubuntu at all. I'd like to just say "thank you" for helping each other here.
[02:26] <jetscreamer> apt-get install 915-resolution iirc
[02:27] <gravemin1> stuart87: lol, that would be a problem :)
[02:27] <jetscreamer> apt-cache search
[02:27] <gravemin1> stuart87: I could give you mine
[02:27] <gigabytes> jetscreamer: I have this line
[02:27] <gigabytes> Frequencies: 71.11 MHz, 49.38 kHz, 60.00 Hz
[02:27] <gravemin1> anybody know if you can enable universe/multivers through the cli?
[02:27] <IntuitiveNipple> gravemin1: Just do a search for "suspend" or "hibernate" or "resume" in launchpad bugs... there's *loads* and they are so difficult to debug
[02:27] <stuart87> gravemin1: lol, fedex it to me
[02:27] <jmchaffie> ah crap, sorry, gotta git. Thanks again for the help! See ya everyone...
[02:28] <jetscreamer> gah
[02:28] <IntuitiveNipple> gravemin1: yes, manually edit the list "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:28] <jetscreamer> gigabytes: what is the model of your monitor.
[02:28] <gravemin1> stuart87: I think it's just a few lines, you can write them down
[02:28] <gravemin1> stuart87: I'll find out what they are
[02:28] <gigabytes> jetscreamer: is a laptop lcd monitor i don't know the model
[02:28] <jetscreamer> gigabytes: what is the model of your laptop
[02:28] <gigabytes> Acer Extensa 5200
[02:29] <stuart87> gravemin1: I was more looking for a good sources.list starting point. I know theres 100000000 different addresses to include, but does anyone know of one that has the 915resolution source
[02:29] <gravemin1> stuart87: universe and multiverse do
[02:29] <zyth> stuart87, its in the universe repo
[02:29] <gravemin1> stuart87: just add these to the top of your sources list and you should get good to go
[02:29] <gravemin1> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main universe multiverse restricted
[02:29] <gravemin1> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main universe multiverse restricted
[02:29] <stuart87> zyth: so i can just apt-get install universe????
[02:30] <IntuitiveNipple> stuart87: I just installed it using "sudo apt-get source 915resolution" from universe on Feisty 32-bit
[02:30] <stuart87> already got them, but i have au.archive etc etc
[02:30] <zyth> stuart87, er no.. go in synaptic, edit your repositories, select universe, then sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[02:30] <superkirbyartist> SMTP is not working in Evolution.  :(
[02:30] <superkirbyartist> SMTP is not working in Evolution.  :(
[02:30] <zyth> yeah
[02:30] <stuart87> does it matter?
[02:30] <gravemin1> stuart87: you have to add those to the top of your sources list: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:30] <gravemin1> zyth: he says he has no X
[02:31] <zyth> oh
[02:31] <zyth> sec.
[02:31] <gravemin1> zyth: so he has to do it manually :)
[02:31] <bashfish> ollah
[02:31] <deathnall> ok guys how do i shut off my windows manager
[02:31] <stuart87> Oldskool!
[02:31] <dcordes> !botsnack
[02:31] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[02:31] <_imran_> how do you set everything on your login window to default (including the background colour)?
[02:31] <zyth> stuart87, 'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty universe' will do it
[02:32] <zyth> add it to your /etc/apt/source.list, then sudo apt-get update
[02:32] <matysek> hey, i cannot click on desktop and i cannot see my icons, but everythings seem ok in safe mode of gnome. what can i do?
[02:32] <stuart87> zyth: I got the list you told me from ubuntu.nl, but it still had nothing
[02:32] <gravemin1> stuart87: did you copy those two lines I showed you?
[02:32] <_imran_> how do you set everything on your login window to default (including the background colour)?
[02:32] <zyth> stuart87, I never told you any list from ubuntu.nl, and did you run sudo apt-get update ?
[02:32] <gravemin1> stuart87: after that you're good to do
[02:33] <_imran_> how do you set everything on your login window to default (including the background colour)?
[02:33] <bullgard4> IntuitiveNipple: Can Tracker Search Tool find a search string composed of more than one word?
[02:33] <bentob0x> can you hot-unplug a HD under linux?
[02:33] <bentob0x> like /dev/hdb for instance
[02:33] <ConstyXIV> deathnall: as in restart it?  ctrl-alt-backspace
[02:33] <ConstyXIV> bentob0x: not that i know of
[02:33] <superkirbyartist> SMTP is not working in Evolution.  :(
[02:34] <gravemin1> stuart87: actually, now that I look at it, it looks like you might just need to uncomment certain lines to enable universe and multiverse
[02:34] <superkirbyartist> Can anyone help please?
[02:34] <superkirbyartist> SMTP is not working in Evolution.  :(
[02:34] <superkirbyartist>  Can anyone help please?
[02:34] <IntuitiveNipple> bullgard4: I don't know
[02:34] <bullgard4> ok.
[02:34] <bnnagabhushan> video not playing in totem player. graphics-->ati 9550
[02:35] <gravemin1> stuart87: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and delete the # from the front of relevant lines
[02:35] <bnnagabhushan> video not playing in totem player. graphics-->ati 9550
[02:35] <Ramy> how i can print on both sides of the paper and  2pages/paper in the same time, my printer HP Deskjet F380 ?
[02:36] <bnnagabhushan> video not playing in totem player. graphics-->ati 9550
[02:36] <predaeus> !repeat | bnnagabhushan
[02:36] <ubotu> bnnagabhushan: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:37] <stuart87> sorry zyth, must have been someone else
[02:37] <matysek> hey, i cannot click on desktop and i cannot see my icons, but everythings seem ok in safe mode of gnome. what can i do?
[02:38] <howlingmadhowie> bnnagabhushan: sounds more like a codec problem on the first sight. try installing and using vlc
[02:38] <jetscreamer> gigabytes: what country did you buy that in
[02:38] <gigabytes> jetscreamer: italy
[02:38] <bnnagabhushan> howlingmadhowie, i also d'loaded vlc player. but the same prob.
[02:38] <bnnagabhushan> pls help
[02:38] <zyth> stuart87, np
[02:39] <IdleOne> bnnagabhushan, you are trying to play DVD?
[02:39] <bnnagabhushan> avi, mpg ne format
[02:39] <bnnagabhushan> video not playing. but the sound is coming
[02:39] <IdleOne> !dvd | bnnagabhushan
[02:39] <ubotu> bnnagabhushan: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:39] <jetscreamer> 15.4" WXGA TFT LCD, 1280 x 800 pixel resolution, 16 ms response time, supporting simultaneous multi-window viewing via Acer GridVista
[02:40] <jetscreamer> gigabytes: it doens't do 1280x900
[02:40] <gigabytes> jetscreamer: it is 1280x800
[02:40] <gigabytes> jetscreamer: I know
[02:41] <gigabytes> is xorg that propose to me the 1280x900 resolution
[02:41] <jetscreamer> gigabytes: play with modelines
[02:41] <_imran_> how do you set your login window background colour to the default?
[02:41] <gigabytes> jetscreamer: I don't know anything about how modelines work
[02:41] <jetscreamer> gigabytes: me either :(
[02:41] <jetscreamer> it's all math to me
[02:42] <gravemin1> gigabites: jetscreamer: there's a good modeline generator out there somewhere that I used
[02:42] <gravemin1> I g2g now though, so good luck finding it :)
[02:42] <bnnagabhushan> IdleOne, did u get me
[02:42] <_imran_> how do you set your login window background colour to the default?
[02:42] <jetscreamer> gigabytes: close as i could get: http://www.acer.fi/acereuro/page9.do?sp=page4&dau34.oid=26383&UserCtxParam=0&GroupCtxParam=0&dctx1=7&CountryISOCtxParam=FI&LanguageISOCtxParam=fi&crc=117546106
[02:43] <jetscreamer> in the login manager preferences
[02:43] <IdleOne> bnnagabhushan, get you?
[02:43] <zwoopa> hello everybody
[02:43] <bnnagabhushan> i asked did u get my question?
[02:43] <_imran_> jetscreamer, but i can't get the right colour for the background...and there is no default button...
[02:44] <IdleOne> bnnagabhushan, I believe I did but perhaps I didnt.
[02:44] <SlimG> I need to split a single .wav containing many tracks into separate tracks as described by it's .cue file, Is there an app/script that'll do this?
[02:45] <bnnagabhushan> IdleOne: I meant that,  I have a problem in watching the video, there is no display coming out but i can hear the sound
[02:46] <jahid_> hi, if i want to keep set an environemtn variable then where i have write?
[02:46] <jahid_> like, i want to set JAVA_HOME variable
[02:46] <bnnagabhushan> IdleOne: I have also downloaded VLC player n installed, Checked but the prob. still persists
[02:46] <jahid_> in which file i should write so that i dont have to write that again and again each time
[02:46] <zwoopa> i'm trying to add a new user, from System/Administration/Users and Groups (users-admin), everything work fine the user is added, i can select which group he belongs to, but when I quit nothing seems to have happened. no new /home/username directory etc. any ideas about what's going wrong?
[02:47] <dcordes> !monotone
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about monotone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:47] <dcordes> !mtn
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mtn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:47] <bnnagabhushan> IdleOne: are u there?
[02:48] <zwoopa> jahid_, in your ~/.bashrc (if you use bash), try to add a line with: export JAVAHOME='/path/to/java/home/'
[02:49] <kraut> moin
[02:49] <bnnagabhushan> can any1 help us here
[02:49] <superkirbyartist> SMTP is not working in Evolution.  :(
[02:49] <superkirbyartist>  Can anyone help please?
[02:49] <bnnagabhushan> we have a problem in displaying ordinary mpg file in totem
[02:49] <jetscreamer> !codecs
[02:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:49] <Schweinepriester> Hello, some germans here?
[02:50] <jetscreamer> !de
[02:50] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:50] <ekso> hey, on gutsy tribe 3, where do i find the restricted drivers module?
[02:50] <superkirbyartist> SMTP is not working in Evolution.  :(
[02:50] <superkirbyartist>  Can anyone help please?
[02:50] <xstasi> hi!
[02:51] <Catsceo> hi
[02:51] <xstasi> what are the "feisty-proposed" repositories?
[02:51] <bnnagabhushan> hi
[02:51] <ekso> is there a channel for gutsy online?
[02:51] <xstasi> ekso, join #ubuntu+1
[02:51] <richard_> i have a logitech quickcam webcam
 what are the "feisty-proposed" repositories? <-- anyone knows?
[02:52] <richard_> can anyone help me to make it work with ubuntu
[02:52] <ekso> xstasi: tks!!
[02:52] <jahid_> zwoopa, there is no ./bashrc in my home directory. does that mean that i am not using bash? how can i use bash. or how can i know which shell i am using?
[02:52] <xstasi> jahid_, you can know your shell, most times, by typing --> echo $0
[02:52] <xstasi> anyway, bashrc's name is ".bashrc"
[02:52] <xstasi> not "./bashrc"
[02:52] <xstasi> :)
[02:53] <zwoopa> jahid_, .bashrc
[02:53] <zwoopa> ;)
[02:53] <jahid_> there is no file with ".b" extenstion:)
[02:53] <jahid_> xstasi, see this---> jahid@jahid:~$ edho $0
[02:53] <jahid_> bash: edho: command not foun
[02:53] <xstasi> jai said echo
[02:53] <bnnagabhushan> wat r u doing
[02:53] <xstasi> not edho.
[02:53] <bnnagabhushan> is there ne 1 to help
[02:54] <jahid_> ohhh, it showed "bash"
[02:54] <xstasi> jahid_, and anyway, files beginning with "." are considered hidden by standard
[02:54] <xstasi> so to see them, you have to issue --> ls -a
[02:54] <xstasi> instead of just ls
[02:54] <richard_> i have a logitech quickcam webcam, can anyone help me to make it work
[02:55] <markqvist> Hi there :) anybody knows how to get mp3 or aac import working in Banshee?
[02:55] <richard_> hello
[02:55] <mariocesar_bo> Hi, where can i put a bash script, to run when ubuntu is asking me for password
[02:55] <xstasi> markqvist, i don't use banshee, but anyway i think you have to install some plugins
[02:55] <xstasi> check online documentation for that software
[02:55] <xstasi> and good luck :)
[02:55] <xstasi> mariocesar_bo, asking for a password? you mean graphical login?
[02:55] <mariocesar_bo> I am using Ubuntu Server without Monitor or Keyboard
[02:55] <markqvist> yeah, tried installing _all_ gstreamer plugins, but that just made things worse ;)
[02:55] <xstasi> oh
[02:55] <xstasi> so you mean when you open a shell
[02:55] <xstasi> :)
[02:56] <xstasi> mariocesar_bo, .bashrc is the file for you
[02:56] <xstasi> it's a shell script that bash executes each time it's started
[02:56] <mariocesar_bo> yea, I want to use the Beep command to notice ubuntu is finish boot
[02:56] <xstasi> markqvist, i wasn't thinking about gstreamer.. i repeat, check online docs anyway :)
[02:56] <xstasi> mariocesar_bo, oh! in that sense
[02:56] <superkirbyartist> SMTP is not working in Evolution.  :(
[02:56] <superkirbyartist>  Can anyone help please?
[02:56] <xstasi> well
[02:56] <markqvist> kay ;) thanks!
[02:56] <markqvist> will do
[02:56] <xstasi> are you familiar with runlevels, mariocesar_bo?
[02:56] <Cromag> markqvist: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?threadid=462893  read that ?
[02:57] <mariocesar_bo> xstasi: no, I am a Desktop User
[02:57] <superkirbyartist> CAN ANYONE HELP ME WITH EVOLUTION PLEASE!?
[02:57] <jahid_> xstasi, if i am using bash, then why there is no .bashrc file in my home directory/
[02:57] <mariocesar_bo> xstasi: trying to get more skills ... :P
[02:57] <humbolt> Using the options lcp-echo-failure and lcp-echo-interval break pppd/pptp in edgy. why is that? same for linkname.
[02:57] <humbolt> Using the options lcp-echo-failure and lcp-echo-interval break pppd/pptp in edgy. why is that? same for linkname.
[02:57] <LadyNikon> superkirbyartist: not acting like that
[02:57] <LadyNikon> humbolt: please steop repeating.
[02:57] <xstasi> jahid_, no clue, anyway it's not always installed by default.. maybe you created another user w/o copying from skel
[02:58] <superkirbyartist> I asked for HALF AN HOUR!
[02:58] <xstasi> mariocesar_bo, you should document yourself a bit
[02:58] <humbolt> LadyNikon: sorry, got disconnected. Did not know if my message made it.
[02:58] <jahid_> xstasi, there is no user except me
[02:58] <zwoopa> jahid_, have you tried: ls -al ~/.bashrc
[02:58] <xstasi> jahid_, dunno then
[02:58] <xstasi> :(
[02:58] <LadyNikon> superkirbyartist: that doesn't excuse shouting.  If someone can help you they will.  If they cant please try the forums or other means.
[02:58] <markqvist> cromag, thanks alot :D
[02:58] <zwoopa> jahid_, anyway if there isn't just create one
[02:58] <superkirbyartist> I already did!
[02:58] <xstasi> mariocesar_bo, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upstart
[02:58] <xstasi> start by reading here
[02:59] <mariocesar_bo> xstasi: thanks I would read it
[02:59] <xstasi> mariocesar_bo, and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runlevel for the basics
[02:59] <bXi_> does someone know a decent smtp/imap howto for feisty?
[02:59] <LadyNikon> superkirbyartist: then you need to be patient and wait.  Have you tried evolutions forums? of their irc channel if they have one?
[02:59] <jahid_> zwoopa, ok
[02:59] <Cromag> markqvist: hope it works.
[02:59] <mariocesar_bo> xstasi: thanks, very kind :)
[02:59] <xstasi> mariocesar_bo, you're welcome :)
[02:59] <richard_> i have a logitech quickcam webcam, can anyone help me to make it work
[03:01] <richard_> i have a logitech quickcam webcam, can you help me to make it work
[03:01] <xstasi> richard_, instead of flooding
[03:01] <xstasi> how bout reading your webcam's model
[03:01] <xstasi> and searching google about it?
[03:01] <xstasi> :)
[03:01] <jahid_> zwoopa, i have written and created one. do i have to logout so that this value loads for other application?
[03:01] <xstasi> like google --> ubuntu modelname
[03:01] <richard_> i did
[03:02] <Cromag> theres alot of posts with that cam on ubuntuforums
[03:02] <zwoopa> jahid_, yes
[03:02] <xstasi> i don't know anymore than google
[03:02] <xstasi> :/
[03:02] <jahid_> zwoopa, ok
[03:02] <richard_> ohh ok thanks
[03:02] <zwoopa> jahid_, or if your application are just used from the command line, open a new terminal windows and it should be ok
[03:04] <sam__> hi i'm sam
[03:04] <m0u5e> i hope the new audacious is updated for ubuntu backports soon T_T
[03:05] <mariocesar_bo> xstasi: I can't see how can I edit upstart?
[03:05] <rausb0> m0u5e: i still stick to xmms. whats new/better in audacious?
[03:05] <xstasi> mariocesar_bo, did you learn what a runlevel is?
[03:05] <mariocesar_bo> xstasi: yep
[03:06] <xstasi> ok
[03:06] <xstasi> mariocesar_bo, so, the default runlevel is nr. 2
[03:06] <xstasi> if you go to /etc/rc2.d
[03:06] <xstasi> you see a lot of scripts
[03:06] <xstasi> that, together, compose the runlevel
[03:07] <m0u5e> audacious is the new xmms
[03:07] <mariocesar_bo> xtasi: i see
[03:07] <m0u5e> xmms was abandoned long ago wasnt it?
[03:07] <xstasi> almost every single of them is a symlink to a script in /etc/init.d, which (since the link begins with "S") are invoked with "start" argument
[03:07] <xstasi> mariocesar_bo, if you want, you can create a shell script
[03:07] <xstasi> and call it like
[03:07] <new> guys i gotta install libssl0.9.6 but this package doenst exist in repos. ... how can I install it?
[03:07] <xstasi> S99beep
[03:07] <m0u5e> rausb0: err oops forgot to tab my responses
[03:07] <xstasi> #!/bin/bash
[03:07] <xstasi> beep
[03:07] <xstasi> and then chmod +x
[03:07] <xstasi> :)
[03:07] <m0u5e> rausb0: try out audacious, its simple, and it works well for me
[03:07] <mariocesar_bo> xstasi: 99 would be to get run at last, isn't?
[03:08] <rausb0> m0u5e: so does xmms. i just wanted to know the difference.
[03:08] <xstasi> exact
[03:08] <xstasi> if you wanna make sure it runs last
[03:08] <xstasi> call it S99zzzbeep
[03:08] <mariocesar_bo> xtasi: great ! thanks again !
[03:08] <m0u5e> xmms: there really isnt that big of a difference, except that audacious is being maintained by a group of ppl still
[03:08] <xstasi> ur welcome :)
[03:09] <xstasi> m0u5e, xmms and audacious are totally different world
[03:09] <xstasi> s
[03:09] <xstasi> audacious is definitely superior
[03:09] <xstasi> even though it has a "few" bugs
[03:09] <m0u5e> xstasi: audacious came from xmms :/
[03:09] <xstasi> and it's a bit slower
[03:09] <juuso> hi
[03:09] <xstasi> m0u5e, yeah, and Linux 2.6 came from Linux 0.0.1 Alpha
[03:09] <xstasi> but as you may guess, they are different worlds :)
[03:10] <m0u5e> xstasi: id like to upgrade to 1.3.5, but i'd like for it to be released to ubuntu backports T_T
[03:10] <m0u5e> xstasi: really? i feel that audacious still has the xmms feel
[03:10] <xstasi> m0u5e, unfortunately, the audacious package in feisty
[03:10] <NEManja-88> serbia!!!:)))
[03:10] <xstasi> is a sucking version
[03:10] <xstasi> :P
[03:10] <xstasi> i used to repackage SVN for my feisty
[03:11] <xstasi> but svn is getting unstable too (weee!!)
[03:11] <m0u5e> xstasi: yeah :(
[03:11] <xstasi> so i switched back to xmms a few weeks ago
[03:11] <xstasi> i'm gonna retry asap
[03:11] <xstasi> :p
[03:11] <rausb0> xstasi: okay, that's enough info for me to stay with xmms for now :)
[03:11] <m0u5e> xstasi: i'm considering just compiling 1.3.5 from scratch :/
[03:11] <m0u5e> rausb0: use 1.3.5, its a stable release
[03:11] <xstasi> rausb0, yeah, audacious is still too "testing" for now
[03:11] <xstasi> but in a few months, it will be the ultimate player
[03:11] <xstasi> :)
[03:11] <m0u5e> rausb0: hes using 1.4.X or something, the svn release :X
[03:12] <xstasi> m0u5e, don't "make install" on ubuntu, you make your system dirty
[03:12] <xstasi> learn how to package instead
[03:12] <xstasi> or use someone else's backports
[03:12] <m0u5e> xstasi: i'd like to use the backports, but i havent seen any...
[03:12] <xstasi> m0u5e, there aren't any
[03:12] <xstasi> except for mine
[03:13] <xstasi> which i did for me
[03:13] <xstasi> and released "just in case"
[03:13] <xstasi> :P
[03:13] <m0u5e> T_T
[03:13] <rausb0> xstasi: i used xmms for years. (with plugins: crossfade, sidplay, xosd) i simply does what i want.
[03:13] <atikx> xstasi how on earth can u make ur system dirti when u install something u just compiled ?
[03:13] <xstasi> rausb0, yeah, continue using it
[03:13] <m0u5e> rausb0: i use crossfade too :D
[03:13] <kazukisan> package manager is giving me the error, "Encountered a section with no package: header", "Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status", "The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.", "_cache->open() failed, please report" any ideas?
[03:13] <m0u5e> atikx: i think he means its a hassle to remove lol
[03:13] <rausb0> crossfade rocks :)
[03:13] <xstasi> atikx, when you "make install", dpkg doesn't know how to uninstall it
[03:13] <xstasi> so unless you keep the sources
[03:14] <_imran_> Rumour has it that if you play Microsoft CDs backwards you will hear Satanic messages.
[03:14] <_imran_> Worse still, is that if you play them forwards they will install Windows.
[03:14] <xstasi> and they are well coded, and well integred with autotools
[03:14] <m0u5e> rausb0: try audacious, i ended up liking it better than xmms
[03:14] <xstasi> _imran_, LOL!!
[03:14] <m0u5e> _imran_ lol
[03:14] <atikx> xstasi ic
[03:14] <m0u5e> i'm saving that in my quotes list
[03:14] <ConstyXIV> xstasi: which is where checkinstall comes in
[03:14] <rausb0> m0u5e: can you name one particular feature which makes it better than xmms?
[03:14] <xstasi> ConstyXIV, yeah, in fact i was talking about "make install" problems
[03:14] <xstasi> :)
[03:15] <xstasi> checkinstall is not perfect anyway
[03:15] <ConstyXIV> xstasi: but it's better than raw make install
[03:15] <xstasi> otherwise everyone would become a debian developer :p
[03:15] <xLOLz> i burned dvd with k3b but when i open it from my computer i get the error http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7707/screenshotwq9.png
[03:15] <xstasi> sure it's better
[03:15] <xstasi> but you never know about conflicts and stuff
[03:15] <xstasi> i normally use checkinstall as my last resource
[03:15] <m0u5e> rausb0: -___-; it can play m4a lossless >:D
[03:15] <atikx> btw I wanted to try out ubuntu, but I couldn't even install it Oo the livecd just kept haning and hanging in random places (not to mention it needed a decade to actually load zz)
[03:15] <xstasi> when for some reason i can't make a standardized debian package by my own
[03:15] <xstasi> :P
[03:16] <_imran_> does anyone know how to make the login screen background colour the default one?
[03:16] <ConstyXIV> only way to take care of conflicts would be to make some sort of .debsrc package standard
[03:16] <rausb0> m0u5e: i dont have any m4a files ;)
[03:16] <xstasi> _imran_, apply the default theme to gdm?
[03:16] <m0u5e> xstasi: please package a 1.3.5 for us backporters T_T
[03:16] <ConstyXIV> _imran_: it's in System->Admin->Login
[03:16] <kazukisan> package manager is giving me the error, "Encountered a section with no package: header", "Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status", "The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.", "_cache->open() failed, please report" any ideas?
[03:16] <ryanakca> what's an appropriate size for /tmp on a server ?
[03:17] <_imran_> ConstyXIV, i know but you cant set the damn colour back to default!!!!!
[03:17] <seba> is it possible to put Ubuntu on a dual boot with windows xp?
[03:17] <xstasi> seba, sure
[03:17] <sayers> Hello. Azureus does not work on Ubuntu for me. What happens is it starts up then closes down.
[03:17] <superkirbyartist> Please.
[03:17] <superkirbyartist>  I need to send email today.
[03:17] <superkirbyartist>  I went on Google and looked for instructions and they are not working!
[03:17] <atikx> so, no ideas Oo?
[03:18] <seba> xstasi and how do I do that?
[03:18] <xstasi> seba, simple: run ubuntu live cd and install it
[03:18] <xstasi> done
[03:18] <xstasi> easy isn't it? :)
[03:18] <erUSUL> !dualboot | seba
[03:18] <ubotu> seba: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[03:18] <m0u5e> sayers: try using k-torrent
[03:18] <seba> thanks
[03:18] <m0u5e> sayers: azureus is bloated, slow, and written in java
[03:18] <ConstyXIV> seba: install windows (don't use the entire disk), install ubuntu in the remaining disk
[03:19] <sayers> m0u5e: Java is fine, However I loved k-torrent but it's KDE
[03:19] <Meyvn> can anyone recommend a nice IRC client for windows? mIRC doesn't cut it for me compared to Xchat imho
[03:19] <ConstyXIV> Meyvn: x-chat
[03:19] <h1st0>  seba after installing windows and leaving some disk space left ubuntu installer will walk you through it.
[03:19] <sayers> ConstyXIV: that's not free.
[03:19] <rausb0> m0u5e: "written in java" includes the first two properties :)
[03:19] <TehRealNexGen> @Meyvn: im using gaim right now
[03:19] <ConstyXIV> sayers: yes it is
[03:19] <h1st0> Meyvn: chatzilla or irssi
[03:19] <sayers> ConstyXIV: for one month
[03:20] <ConstyXIV> sayers: the official build
[03:20] <Meyvn> thanks, I'll have a look
[03:20] <kazukisan> package manager is giving me the error, "Encountered a section with no package: header", "Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status", "The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.", "_cache->open() failed, please report" any ideas?
[03:20] <h1st0> Meyvn: chatzilla is a plugin for firefox and irssi is a nice terminal based client
[03:20] <blippe> sayers, try starting it in a terminal and see why it fails!
[03:20] <superkirbyartist> Please.
[03:20] <superkirbyartist>  I need to send email today.
[03:20] <superkirbyartist>  I went on Google and looked for instructions and they are not working!
[03:20] <superkirbyartist> Please guys I've been searching for a long time and still I cannot send any email.
[03:20] <rausb0> h1st0: so there is irssi for windows?
[03:20] <blippe> sayers, or better yet, use a better torrentclient
[03:20] <sayers> blippe: I have, but the error doesn't make any sense
[03:20] <h1st0> rausb0: yeap
[03:20] <rausb0> h1st0: cool
[03:20] <blippe> sayers, what does it say?
[03:21] <ConstyXIV> sayers: http://www.silverex.info/news/
[03:21] <h1st0> rausb0: they hve binaries availible on their site but they are usually a version behind.
[03:21] <TehRealNexGen> superkirbyartist: through the we interface?
[03:21] <TehRealNexGen> or pop?
[03:21] <TehRealNexGen> web
[03:21] <superkirbyartist> smtp
[03:21] <TehRealNexGen> i mean are you using your web browser?
[03:22] <levander`> Anybody know why the videos on this page don't play under Ubuntu?
[03:22] <sayers> blippe: http://pastebin.com/d74b98b43
[03:22] <m0u5e> rausb0: lol lol
[03:22] <superkirbyartist> pop to read.
[03:22] <TehRealNexGen> what client?
[03:22] <h1st0> levander: videos on what page?
[03:22] <ConstyXIV> levander: what page?
[03:22] <superkirbyartist> Evolution
[03:22] <sayers> superkirbyartist: Let me get you this link
[03:22] <atikx> only difference of kubuntu is that it runs kde instead of gnome?
[03:22] <superkirbyartist> Asks me to type smtp password...
[03:22] <sayers> superkirbyartist: you need to go into your gmail options and enable pop
[03:22] <m0u5e> superkirbyartist: why not just use thunderbird? :X
[03:23] <superkirbyartist> Says "SENDING MESSAGE..."
[03:23] <sayers> m0u5e: it would still be the same problem
[03:23] <superkirbyartist> But then...
[03:23] <ConstyXIV> atikx: more or less, yes
[03:23] <TehRealNexGen> bah im using thunderbird right now caant help then
[03:23] <sayers> superkirbyartist: you need to enable POP in your gmail options aswell as make sure it is SSL
[03:23] <igorgue> does anybody have a vmware server running on Gutsy?
[03:24] <atikx> ConstyXIV, but you can get kde working on the original ubuntu cleanly, right?
[03:24] <h1st0> igorgue: ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:24] <superkirbyartist> Thunderbird doesn't integrate with Ubuntu, unfortunately.
[03:24] <superkirbyartist> I can download POP mail fine.
[03:24] <superkirbyartist> Downloading POP mail's not the problem.  SMTP is.
[03:24] <igorgue> thanks h1st0
[03:24] <ConstyXIV> atikx: yup, just install the kubuntu-desktop package
[03:24] <Enselic> superkirbyartist: what does Thunderbird say when you try?
[03:24] <superkirbyartist> I don't use thunderbird.
[03:24] <superkirbyartist> Evolution mail.
[03:24] <superkirbyartist> Sorry if I forgot to mention.
[03:25] <Enselic> superkirbyartist: well, what does Evolutions say?
[03:25] <levander> ConstyXIV: On http://fox.com/hellskitchen/, go to the bottom in the middle column and click on "VIDEOS" with the picture of Chef Ramsay next to it.
[03:25] <superkirbyartist> Asks for SMTP password.  Dialog box "sending message" with empty bar.  Bar remains empty.
[03:25] <levander> ConstyXIV: None of the videos on that popup page play for me.
[03:26] <superkirbyartist> Progress bar doesn't move.
[03:26] <Matic`Makovec> Hello there. How could I make this little ubuntu here to run ntpdate every time it boots up?
[03:26] <superkirbyartist> Do I need to use firefox now just to send mail?  That is stupid!
[03:26] <atikx> btw, did I get it right? ubuntu doesn't give u access to root Oo? what kind of porno is this :D
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !root
[03:27] <ubotu> do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[03:27] <levander> Matic`Makovec: first, look for a script that will run ntpdate in /etc/init.d
[03:27] <ConstyXIV> levander: three words: Windows Media Player
[03:27] <sayers> superkirbyartist: Why don't you listen to what I say
[03:27] <atikx> that is ... weird
[03:28] <superkirbyartist> Sayers, what did you say?
[03:28] <levander> ConstyXIV: yeah, I'm getting that.  Stupid FOX, with all their money, simply didn't bother to design their site according to web standards.
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> atikx: Not wierd, works fine... keeps many users OUT of trouble
[03:28] <sayers> superkirbyartist: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-tutorials-howtos-reference-material/41552-complete-guide-using-gmail-thunderbird-mozilla-mail-evolution-kmai.html and go into your gmail settings and enable POP
[03:28] <levander> ConstyXIV: It's like you have to get a video from ads.doubleclick.net or something first, before you can play the clip you're really interested in.
[03:28] <ConstyXIV> atikx: personally, i like the sudo setup.  if you want root though, you type "sudo passwd root" at a console to give it a password (I do not reccomend)
[03:28] <Matic`Makovec> levander, yeh, that exist? I was thinking of that but I'm not sure it's actually there.
[03:29] <superkirbyartist> I've read tons of Gmail tutorials, Sayers, including the one you mentionned, but they do not work.  I am using Google Apps.  POP works, but SMTP does not.
[03:29] <atikx> ConstyXIV, m, thx ;)
[03:29] <sayers> superkirbyartist: you need to set up TSL
[03:30] <ConstyXIV> sayers: that's TLS
[03:30] <magnusgf> anyone here who knows about a good network monitoring program?  That is, at tool which enables me to see how much bandwidth each of my running processes are using?
[03:30] <sayers> ConstyXIV: ty
[03:30] <Meyvn> Xchat is not free for windows
[03:30] <superkirbyartist> Doesn't make a difference.  Message is not sent.
[03:30] <levander> ConstyXIV: Hmmm, doesn't look like it does.  Some options are to run ntpdate in /etc/rc.local - that's the script you use for adding your own stuff to the system startup.  Or, you can create a cron entry that runs on startup.  Not all crons support doing that, but I think I remember reading that Ubuntu's cron does.
[03:31] <ConstyXIV> levander: you've got the wrong person methinks
[03:31] <siarogka> hello, is anybody can tell me  how Ubuntu can  get Classless Static Routes?
[03:31] <elementz> hi everybody
[03:31] <elementz> could somebody help me with installing this svn co http://svn.o-hand.com/repos/clutter/trunk clutter ??
[03:31] <levander> Matic`Makovec: the last thing I said to ConstyXIV was actually for you.
[03:32] <Frogzoo> elementz: the subversion manual is excellent
[03:32] <Meyvn> ConstyXIV, Xchat for windows isn't free
[03:32] <ConstyXIV> superkirbyartist: make absolutley sure that you have SSL on, and port 465 or 587, and auth on (with your full address as your username)
[03:32] <ConstyXIV> Meyvn: http://www.silverex.info/news/
[03:32] <elementz> Frogzoo, well downed it already - installing it is the prob
[03:32] <superkirbyartist> Dudes?
[03:32] <levander> magnusgf: gnome-system-monitor, go to the Processes tab, then go to the View menu, and see if you can add a column that shows bandwidth
[03:33] <ConstyXIV> Meyvn: unofficial build, xchat guys are likely violating the GPL with the shareware build
[03:33] <yellow_chicken> anyone using alsa 1.0.14 final release on ubuntu?
[03:33] <Matic`Makovec> Oh, okay, thanks levander :)
[03:33] <Meyvn> ConstyXIV, ah i see
[03:33] <levander> Matic`Makovec: I'd search the wiki for that too, see if there's a "standard" way of doing it.
[03:33] <Matic`Makovec> I'll check stuff
[03:33] <yellow_chicken> when i go youtube.com sometimes, well (always after like 2 or 3 videos), sound screws up
[03:33] <levander> Matic`Makovec: It kind of makes me think something's wrong with your computer if you *have* to run that on every boot.
[03:34] <Frogzoo> elementz: just use the subversion in the repos
[03:34] <levander> Matic`Makovec: Your BIOS should be storing the current time.
[03:34] <elementz> Fracture, ?
[03:34] <Matic`Makovec> Yeah, I noticed that too
[03:34] <levander> Matic`Makovec: You may have to replace your motherboard's CMOS battery if your computer is losing the time between every boot.
[03:34] <magnusgf> levander: It doesn't seems like that opportunity is available ?
[03:34] <Matic`Makovec> And this is happening since the day I made a dualboot with Windows
[03:34] <superkirbyartist> ConstyXIV, won't let me change ports.
[03:34] <Matic`Makovec> I didn't have the problem before
[03:34] <levander> Matic`Makovec: You can see if it's a BIOS problem by checking the current time in BIOS right after you reboot.
[03:35] <superkirbyartist> Sorry, guys... not working... :(
[03:35] <levander> Matic`Makovec: replacing the CMOS battery is the most common thing that has to be done when you computer loses current time when you reboot
[03:35] <levander> Matic`Makovec: how old is the computer?
[03:35] <ekso> anyone knows what this means??
[03:35] <ekso> $ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[03:35] <ekso> /bin/sh: Can't open date
[03:36] <Matic`Makovec> levander, like 5 years :) Really old
[03:36] <superkirbyartist> But POP is successful.  SMTP is not.
[03:36] <levander> Matic`Makovec: it might be the CMOS battery at that old
[03:36] <Matic`Makovec> Yeah, most probably
[03:36] <Matic`Makovec> I'll try changing that
[03:36] <ConstyXIV> superkirbyartist: give me a moment to d/l evolution (not on my ubuntu machine right now
[03:36] <Matic`Makovec> As it's not the first time it dodes weird stuff
[03:36] <Frogzoo> Matic`Makovec: did you set linux to save the bios clock in localtime or gmt? gmt will screw up windows
[03:36] <levander> Matic`Makovec: check in BIOS and make sure it's a BIOS thing, that the current time is even lost in BIOS
[03:36] <Matic`Makovec> The BIOS/motherboard
[03:36] <siarogka> hello, is anybody can tell me  how Ubuntu can  get Classless Static Routes?
[03:37] <Frogzoo> siarogka: by default
[03:37] <Matic`Makovec> Frogzoo, I wouldn't know that, I'd have to check
[03:37] <Matic`Makovec> Thanks for hints!
[03:37] <kditty> how can i install edubuntu directly from the feisty live cd without loading the live cd? my computer has trouble loading a live cd but can run ubuntu from an install
[03:37] <yellow_chicken> can someone help, i installed 1.0.14 on ubuntu 7.04.  when i go youtube.com and watch like 3 videos, the sound screws up.  the sound chug a little and screws up
[03:37] <siarogka> it doesn't work
[03:37] <Frogzoo> Matic`Makovec: check your timezone, tzconfig
[03:38] <superkirbyartist> Thanks XIV
[03:38] <levander> kditty: I think the "alternate" install CD is for situations where you have trouble booting the LiveCD, I'm not sure though.
[03:38] <kditty> ok, thanks levander
[03:39] <JBandP> can anyone refresh my memory on how to edit xorg.conf ?
[03:39] <superkirbyartist> Thanks ConstyXIV
[03:39] <JBandP> or where it's located?
[03:40] <floris84> its located in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:40] <floris84> you can edit it by typing
[03:40] <JBandP> thx
[03:40] <floris84> gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:40] <floris84> be shure to make a  backup first sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-backup
[03:40] <wcf`> what is the difference between gksudo and sudo?
[03:41] <floris84> gksudo is the graphical sudo box
[03:41] <floris84> it's better to use it when using graphical applications
[03:41] <ConstyXIV> wcf`: graphics
[03:41] <wcf`> k
[03:41] <juuso> hi all
[03:41] <wcf`> thnxs
[03:41] <superkirbyartist> I found the problem!
[03:41] <_imran_> can anybody help me get the default background colour for my login screen???
[03:41] <floris84> since otherwise you are not taking the configuration settings from your home dir but from roots homedir
[03:41] <superkirbyartist> It is sending to my old username.
[03:42] <Frogzoo> _imran_: sys -> admin -> login iirc
[03:42] <juuso> i need help if i turn gdesklets on  then after 1-2sec it go off
[03:42] <darrin> gotta question regarding codeweavers crossover for linux.
[03:42] <darrin> how do you get it to install on fiesty fawn?
[03:43] <juuso> thourgh termnial
[03:43] <juuso> apt-get install gdesklets
[03:43] <superkirbyartist> I can't fix it.
[03:43] <_imran_> Frogzoo, i know, but there is no default option for the damn background colour *so frustrating*
[03:44] <darrin> so apt-get install gdesklets should install it?
[03:44] <juuso> yes i install it but if i start it it go off in 1sec
[03:44] <Frogzoo> _imran_: there is, I've found it before
[03:45] <_imran_> Frogzoo, you using ubuntu feisty?
[03:45] <martyyyr> I have to reboot my ubuntu server once or twice a day to keep my internet connection working. Where do I start to look for the cause?
[03:45] <Frogzoo> yep
[03:45] <juuso> darrin, do you know me problem?
[03:46] <_imran_> Frogzoo, i'm in login window preferences...where now?
[03:46] <levander> darrin: that's how you can install any package.  1.) "sudo apt-cache search <string>" to find the package name, 2.) "sudo apt-get install <package-name>" to install it.  Synaptic is a GUI interface to the same APT backend that apt-get uses.  Some people find it easier.
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Frogzoo: the one from system admin login defajlt color?
[03:46] <juuso> thats right levander
[03:46] <daedra> hey I want to start tightvncserver -localhost at boot
[03:46] <daedra> how would I do that?
[03:46] <juuso> but the install isnt me problem
[03:47] <juuso> i cant start gdesklets
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> _imran_: second tab
[03:47] <_imran_> Jack_Sparrow, yes, and then...
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> below the themes
[03:48] <juuso> do any one know how to fix it
[03:48] <juuso> ?
[03:48] <daedra> how would I do that?
[03:48] <daedra> hey I want to start tightvncserver -localhost at boot
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> _imran_: Sorry, local tab below the themes
[03:48] <_imran_> Jack_Sparrow, background colour...
[03:48] <martyyyr> I have to reboot my ubuntu server once or twice a day to keep my internet connection working. Where do I start to look for the cause?
[03:48] <_imran_> Jack_Sparrow, i know...but how do you set it back to default?
[03:49] <levander> juuso: run "dpkg -L gdesklets" to get a list of all files in the package, look for documentation files, which are usually in /usr/share somewhere
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> _imran_: I have a dozen gdm themes for my login and set the default background to blue
[03:49] <daedra> !boot
[03:49] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[03:49] <Florian-K> hi :)
[03:49] <Enselic> !hi | Florian-K
[03:49] <ubotu> Florian-K: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:49] <_imran_> yes...but i want the old ubuntu colour...but i can't get it right] 
[03:49] <daedra> /etc/rc.local Perfect! thanks ubotu
[03:50] <Jack_Sparrow> _imran_: You will need to ask someone what the code # is for the default color.. I dont remember
[03:50] <_imran_> Jack_Sparrow, yes...but i want the old ubuntu colour...but i can't get it right
[03:50] <Florian-K> hi Enselic :)
[03:50] <modulus> does ubuntu have a portaudio 19 package?
[03:51] <Jack_Sparrow> _imran_: let me check the wifes computer..one sec
[03:51] <magnusgf> !network monitor
[03:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about network monitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:52] <FujikO> salve a tutti
[03:52] <FujikO> posso avere un aiuto?
[03:52] <Siph0n> is there any reason why Ubuntu could not partition my hard drive? It said for unknown reasons it cant be partitioned, when i am trying to install Ubuntu
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> _imran_: You can always boot a live cd and look it up
[03:52] <martyyyr> Anyone? Where do I start to look for causes of an unstable internet connection?
[03:52] <_imran_> Jack_Sparrow, true...
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Siph0n: limit of 4 primary partitions
[03:53] <wers> I was booting a live cd and when kdm was supposed to start, the mouse cursor just appears and gets lost immeditely, has that ever happened to you?
[03:53] <rhoderyc> martyyyr, i donno dmesg or kernel logs? anything about ur network device maybe? :/
[03:53] <superkirbyartist> Now I can't even start Evolution.
[03:53] <superkirbyartist> CalDAV Eplugin starting up ...
[03:53] <superkirbyartist> (evolution-2.10:12975): evolution-mail-WARNING **: cannot load vfolders: Unable to load system rules '/usr/share/evolution/2.10/vfoldertypes.xml': No such file or directory
[03:53] <superkirbyartist> (evolution-2.10:12975): Bonobo-CRITICAL **: bonobo_ui_component_set_prop: assertion `BONOBO_IS_UI_COMPONENT (component)' failed
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> _imran_: 2b0600
[03:53] <superkirbyartist> (evolution-2.10:12975): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_check_menu_item_set_active: assertion `GTK_IS_CHECK_MENU_ITEM (check_menu_item)' failed
[03:53] <superkirbyartist> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[03:54] <wib> hi, i have the latest ati drivers installed, yet i can't set my screen resolution higher than 1024*768. how can i fix that? (grafic card: ati raedon x3100)
[03:54] <ConstyXI1> wib: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:55] <floris84> wib: you could edit xorg.conf
[03:55] <darrin> I still can't get crossover to install.  I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.
[03:55] <martyyyr> My internet connection in ubuntu is unstable, where do I start to look for causes?
[03:55] <floris84> martyyyr: is it wireless?
[03:55] <superkirbyartist> nCalDAV Eplugin starting up ...
[03:55] <superkirbyartist> (evolution-2.10:13129): evolution-mail-WARNING **: cannot load vfolders: Unable to load system rules '/usr/share/evolution/2.10/vfoldertypes.xml': Success
[03:55] <superkirbyartist> (evolution-2.10:13129): Bonobo-CRITICAL **: bonobo_ui_component_set_prop: assertion `BONOBO_IS_UI_COMPONENT (component)' failed
[03:55] <superkirbyartist> (evolution-2.10:13129): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_check_menu_item_set_active: assertion `GTK_IS_CHECK_MENU_ITEM (check_menu_item)' failed
[03:55] <superkirbyartist> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[03:55] <martyyyr> floris84: No, it's not.
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> martyyyr: Wired or wireless
[03:56] <floris84> martyyyr: is it everytime you boot?
[03:56] <martyyyr> It's wired. I'm running ubuntu server edition on that box.
[03:56] <bulmer> martyyyr: can you elaborate on what you meant by unstable connection?
[03:56] <martyyyr> And I have to reboot it once or twice a day to get my connection back.
[03:56] <martyyyr> The connection just dies sometiems, I don't know why.
[03:57] <bulmer> martyyyr: do you use DHCP from your ISP?
[03:57] <superkirbyartist> I'm fed up!  :'(
[03:57] <martyyyr> bulmer: Yes.
[03:57] <wib> ConstyXI1, floris84: i'll try that thanks!
[03:57] <floris84> martyyyr: and if you type in terminal sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart does that fix it?
[03:57] <greyghost> guys i need some help ..
[03:57] <martyyyr> floris84: Not usually.
[03:57] <Almighty_Henaro> greyghost, go on
[03:58] <floris84> hmm I have the same thing once every 2 weeks or something
[03:58] <jowi> greyghost: be precise in your question if you want good answers
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> superkirbyartist: What have you installed recently and how did you install it?
[03:58] <pussfeller> i installed kubuntu, and now im getting these Xrandx errrors and my display is messed up
[03:58] <bulmer> martyyyr: you can not control their means of changing your lease time..ie they constantly change your ip addy..but maybe you can create a script to check it every five minutes to reconfigure
[03:58] <floris84> unplugging and replugging the network cable works for me
[03:58] <pussfeller> i even swtiched gdm back on
[03:58] <floris84> but what type is your network card?
[03:58] <bulmer> your router
[03:58] <greyghost> i am installing ubuntu 7.04 off the alternate cd ... goes well to 85 % then takes a lot of time with brltty-x11 ... and then a pop up asking me to change media (title reads Configure!!)
[03:58] <pussfeller> i cant get the 1400/900 rez any more
[03:59] <martyyyr> bulmer: I really don't think it's an ISP problem. I never had this problem before when I still had windows server 2003 running on that box.
[03:59] <greyghost> but i thought there was only one cd ... and the same worked great with one of my other pcs ..
[03:59] <superkirbyartist> I deleted .evolution and now it works fine.
[03:59] <martyyyr> floris84: It's a tulip card.
[03:59] <greyghost> and this is a gigabyte laptop ..
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> greyghost: did you check the md5
[03:59] <bulmer> martyyyr: well do you really know if your ip addy changes to occur during this downtime? monitor your ip addr if it changes
[03:59] <Enselic> Is there a way to simulate what the automatic update manager does, i.e. force an update check?
[03:59] <jowi> martyyyr: try to disable ipv6
[03:59] <martyyyr> bulmer: My ip doesn't change.
[03:59] <floris84> martyyr: what does lspci say about it?
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> greyghost: Just because it worked on the other machine does not mean it hasnt been scratched or running different hardware
[04:00] <martyyyr> 02:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21041 [Tulip Pass 3]  (rev 21)
[04:00] <greyghost> Jack_Sparrow , yes i ran the check cd for defects
[04:00] <greyghost> and it said all was fine
[04:00] <jowi> !ipv6 | martyyyr
[04:00] <ubotu> martyyyr: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[04:00] <bulmer> martyyr are you sure about that? what is the ip you have doled out by your ISP?
[04:01] <martyyyr> bulmer: Yes, I'm absolutely sure. My ip doesn't change, I checked that. :)
[04:01] <superkirbyartist> Can I reset Evolution back to original settings?
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> greyghost: Trying to install on raid drives or usb devices plugged in?
[04:02] <martyyyr> jowi: ipv6 was already disabled.
[04:02] <bulmer> martyyyr: what is the ip addr you have now for your server?
[04:02] <greyghost>  Jack_Sparrow ,nope
[04:02] <martyyyr> bulmer: 84. something. Why/
[04:02] <martyyyr> ?
[04:02] <bulmer> martyyyr: and you want me to help you?
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> greyghost: Post your hardware info and someone will have an answer
[04:03] <martyyyr> bulmer: If you can..
[04:03] <benmayim> I'm having trouble getting my printer to print. It's a Lexmark X2350. When I try to add the printer it is detected as a 2300 series, but does not list my specific printer in the list, and suggests one which I add, but print jobs never print and the print cue says they are stopped.
[04:03] <benmayim> can anyone help me?
[04:03] <bulmer> martyyyr: well answer my questions okay?
[04:03] <floris84> martyyyr: there are some bugs concerning this card in the kernel
[04:03] <bulmer> we need to troubleshoot
[04:03] <martyyyr> floris84: What kind of bugs?
[04:04] <floris84> http://lkml.org/lkml/2003/10/26/101
[04:04] <martyyyr> bulmer: What do you need to know? And what does my IP have to do with it? It's not a DHCP problem.
[04:04] <greyghost> jack_Sparrow ,ok
[04:05] <bulmer> martyyyr: you're using DSL? whats the ip assigned to your dsl modem/router and whats your ip addy to your server?
[04:05] <floris84> bulmer: why is that important?
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Is the person here that wanted to install Mozilla Sunbird?  I got it working this am...
[04:05] <martyyyr> bulmer: Cable.
[04:05] <bulmer> floris84 follow along
[04:05] <floris84> okay
[04:05] <benmayim> I'm having trouble getting my printer to print. It's a Lexmark X2350. When I try to add the printer it is detected as a 2300 series, but does not list my specific printer in the list, and suggests one which I add, but print jobs never print and the print cue says they are stopped. Can anyone help me?
[04:05] <bulmer> martyyyr:  whats the ip assigned to your dsl modem/router and whats your ip addy to your server?
[04:06] <bulmer> martyyyr: if you are unwilling to give out info..I can not help you
[04:06] <martyyyr> bulmer: It's a cable modem. The ip is 84.105.207.62.
[04:06] <martyyyr> bulmer: I know, I just don't want to waste time probing at this dhcp problem that won't tell us anything.
[04:08] <TimeTraveller> if i compiled and installed a program and want to remove it / upgrade it do i have to manualy delete all files / shortcuts etc. ?
[04:08] <martyyyr> bulmer: So, what now?
[04:09] <bulmer> martyyyr: you are no cooperating..tuff
[04:09] <bulmer> not*
[04:09] <martyyyr> bulmer: I answered your question..
[04:09] <bulmer> martyyyr: i asked of your server too
[04:09] <martyyyr> bulmer: That was the server ip.
[04:10] <martyyyr> bulmer: It's the same as my cable modem's.
[04:10] <bulmer> martyyyr: so you have the dsl modem/router transparent? ie like bridging mode?
[04:10] <dbzdeath> hey right now i have networkmanager set to switch from wired to wireless whenever i detach the cord which is great but since it gets a different ip from my dhcp server stuff like irc ping times out is there anyway to set networkmanager to assign the same ip for both wired and wireless?
[04:10] <martyyyr> bulmer: It's not DSL...It's cable..
[04:10] <bulmer> or the server in dmz zone?
[04:11] <martyyyr> bulmer: And I'm not sure what you mean by transparent. But that ip I gave you is the only IP I have and need. It's all I ever needed.
[04:11] <bulmer> martyyyr: ok cable..
[04:11] <bulmer> martyyyr: well look, you have a device infront of your server, either it has to have an ip addr or its transparent noh?
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> bulmer:   I applaud your patience...
[04:11] <martyyyr> Jack_Sparrow: don't start
[04:12] <martyyyr> bulmer: internet -> modem -> my server box. That's it..
[04:12] <bulmer> Jack_Sparrow: i have worst ..client that screams and threatens to call my boss..i am sure they called my boss..lolz
[04:13] <superkirbyartist> EVOLUTION IS STUPID!
[04:13] <greyghost> Jack_Sparrow , http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Notebook/Products_Spec.aspx?ProductID=2043 thats the one .. do you think the wireless card ?
[04:13] <bulmer> martyyyr: do you understand my question? or what am getting at?
[04:13] <dbzdeath> ...
[04:13] <martyyyr> bulmer: No, obviously.
[04:13] <howlingmadhowie> superkirbyartist: maybe you should consider moving to kansas
[04:14] <bulmer> martyyyr: well, okay, do you know much about bridging and subnets?
[04:14] <superkirbyartist> I REMOVED ALL THE CONFIGURATION FILES, AND STILL IT HAS MY OLD SMTP SETTINGS!  HOW STUPID!
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> greyghost: Intel wireless should not be a problem...  If it didnt have the driver it just would not work
[04:15] <martyyyr> bulmer: Bits and pieces.
[04:15] <superkirbyartist> "Please enter the SMTP password for (old account).  HOW STUPID ARE YOU UBUNTU!?
[04:15] <greyghost> hmm ..
[04:15] <superkirbyartist> I REMOVED ALL THE EVOLUTION SETTINGS!
[04:15] <superkirbyartist> I REMOVED ALL OF THEM.
[04:15] <LouisvilleLIP> WE HEAR YOU
[04:15] <superkirbyartist> I EVEN WENT IN SYNAPTIC AND SELECTED "INCLUDING DATA FILES"!
[04:15] <LouisvilleLIP> !caps > superkirbyartist
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> greyghost: To refresh my memory.. you cnat get the alternate cd to install.. have you tried the live cd
[04:16] <LouisvilleLIP> !caps | superkirbyartist
[04:16] <ubotu> superkirbyartist: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:16] <bulmer> martyyyr: do you know how that cable modem is configured? your server is in the dmz? or the modem configured as bridge?
[04:16] <greyghost> Jack_Sparrow , nope .. don't have one ..
[04:16] <superkirbyartist> I removed /usr/share/evolution
[04:17] <martyyyr> bulmer: bridge.
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> greyghost: I have never done the alt install...  I do have a dell that gagged on feisty even thought dapper works like a charm
[04:17] <howlingmadhowie> superkirbyartist: your settings for evolution will be stored in a hidden directory in your user account
[04:17] <darrin> does anyone here have any experience with Crossover for linux from Codeweavers?
[04:17] <greyghost> Jack_Sparrow , i'll install this old 6.06 (live cd atm) and then try to get the live cd for 7.04
[04:17] <greyghost> thanks
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[04:17] <bulmer> martyyyr: your cable company is happy to have your box as part of their network, cool
[04:18] <superkirbyartist> STUPID EVOLUTION!
[04:18] <superkirbyartist> DOESN'T WORK!
[04:18] <superkirbyartist> I JUST WASTED AN HOUR BECAUSE OF STUPID EVOLUTION!
[04:18] <LouisvilleLIP> !caps | superkirbyartist
[04:18] <ubotu> superkirbyartist: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:18] <dbzdeath> bulmer: i think what he's saying is his server does all the authentication etc.
[04:18] <bulmer> martyyyr: is there a way you can probe the modem for status history? ie the briding or dropped packets, connectivity issues?
[04:18] <superkirbyartist> howlingmadhowie:I REMOVED THE STUPID FOLDER MANY TIMES!
[04:18] <greyghost> superkirbyartist , you know what ? CAPS ARE MORE STUPID than EVOLUTION !!!
[04:18] <Juhaz> !ops
[04:18] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[04:19] <LouisvilleLIP> idiot
[04:19] <howlingmadhowie> superkirbyartist: look in /home/<your username>/.evolution
[04:19] <martyyyr> bulmer: I don't think so. (Why are we focusing on my modem again?)
[04:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Juhaz: What did you need
[04:19] <superkirbyartist> Howlingmadhowie: been there, done that.
[04:19] <darrin> does anyone here have any experience with Crossover for linux from Codeweavers?
[04:19] <bulmer> martyyyr: you claim your connection is unstable, how do you know it is not your modem?
[04:19] <howlingmadhowie> superkirbyartist: have you tried deleting the whole folder?
[04:20] <h00s> how to change keymap in ubuntu _server_? no x installed. i want to change from en to hr
[04:20] <martyyyr> bulmer: Because it used to work just fine when I had windows server 2003 on it. Never had any problems.
[04:20] <ConstyXIV> darrin: i believe it's just a commercially supported wine with a GUI
[04:20] <floris84> darrin: I ran it maybe 2 times so sorry can't help you mutch
[04:20] <darrin> I know it's commercial, I just can't get it to install on my box.
[04:21] <dbzdeath> martyyyr: does your server contain your login info for your internet connection?
[04:21] <dr_willis> Crossover focuses in compatiability with office and other windows productivity apps.  - I would have to say check their homepage/forums for installation isues on ubuntu.
[04:21] <bulmer> martyyyr: you may need to look at the configs of that modem carefully
[04:21] <martyyyr> dbzdeath: I don't need login info. (If you're talking about a username/password)
[04:21] <dbzdeath> martyyyr: right dhcp assigned
[04:21] <dbzdeath> ?
[04:21] <martyyyr> yeah
[04:21] <dr_willis> Unlees you can give a more specific errir message for the isntaller.
[04:21] <martyyyr> bulmer: And what should i look for?
[04:21] <bulmer> martyyyr: is there a way you can probe the modem for status history? ie the briding or dropped packets, connectivity issues?
[04:21] <bulmer> that
[04:22] <darrin> give me a sec and I can get the error message that I've been getting stuck against.
[04:22] <martyyyr> bulmer: Well, I can't do that. There is no way for me to connect to my modem.
[04:23] <bulmer> martyyyr: oh well, i tried..ask your isp to prove that they are not dropping anything..
[04:23] <martyyyr> lol...
[04:23] <RainCT> hi
[04:23] <martyyyr> ok
[04:23] <tom_> Dependency question: Is ubuntustudio completely compatible with the current Feisty release?
[04:23] <ice> !adeptfix
[04:23] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[04:23] <martyyyr> thanks for trying
[04:23] <bulmer> np
[04:23] <superkirbyartist> And I sudo apt-get remove, sudo apt-get install repeatedly.
[04:23] <superkirbyartist> And it either doesn't load, or load with old account settings.
[04:23] <superkirbyartist> Why!?
[04:23] <RainCT> what's the command to configure the screen, exactly? (dpkg-reconfigure what?)
[04:23] <darrin> says the archive type isn't supported.
[04:23] <superkirbyartist> Why can't I just have a clean evolution install?
[04:23] <superkirbyartist> :'(
[04:23] <superkirbyartist> WHY IS THIS UBUNTU SO STUPID!?
[04:24] <superkirbyartist> WHY!?
[04:24] <LouisvilleLIP> you are stupid
[04:24] <superkirbyartist> CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN?
[04:24] <superkirbyartist> WINDOWS IS BETTER.  AT LEAST IT'S NOT THAT STUPID!
[04:24] <howlingmadhowie> superkirbyartist: i'm trying to find where the account settings are stored.
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter
[04:24] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:24] <dbzdeath> martyyyr: well if your server which now has ubuntu on it is assigned your external ip via dhcp i don't see how connection instability could be ubuntu's fault.. is it possible to boot into 2000 to confirm? something could have happened since you switched
[04:24] <RainCT> LouisvilleLIP: +1 :)
[04:24] <dr_willis> superkirbyartist,  becayse you are not using the Purge option woudl be my guess. and you are thinking in windows terms
[04:24] <dr_willis> And i imagine everyone has you on ignore now.
[04:24] <martyyyr> bulmer: Btw, the other network card slows down a lot too, when my internet connection drops. Does that help any?
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> how did you know
[04:24] <superkirbyartist> AT LEAST IT DOESN'T MAKE YOU WASTE AN HOUR TO SEND YOUR MAIL!
[04:24] <superkirbyartist> THIS IS SO STUPID!
[04:24] <howlingmadhowie> superkirbyartist: i've found where evolution stores mails, i can't see where it stores account details.
[04:24] <dr_willis> superkirbyartist,  and removeing evolution removal will NOT remove the users setting files.
[04:24] <LouisvilleLIP> this is ridiculous, ask questions.  Don't rant.  if it doesn't work, it's possible that you aren't doing something right, instead of Ubuntu not working
[04:25] <bulmer> martyyyr: doesnt that give you a clue..other connection drops.. :)
[04:25] <IndyGunFreak> superkirbyartist: whats your problem with evolution?
[04:25] <dr_willis> 'removing a system program/tool/whatever - should never touch stuff in the users /home dirs.'
[04:25] <martyyyr> bulmer: What do you mean?
[04:25] <superkirbyartist> IndyGunFreak: Doesn't even load.
[04:25] <greyghost> !gparted
[04:25] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[04:25] <IndyGunFreak> superkirbyartist: i see, well, that could be a problem
[04:25] <bulmer> martyyyr: i can not help you anymore, attitude issues i can not deal with this early morning
[04:26] <superkirbyartist> Stupid segmentation fault (core dumped) errors.
[04:26] <martyyyr> bulmer: fine
[04:26] <Jack_Sparrow> greyghost: Are you trying to multiboot?
[04:26] <greyghost> Jack_Sparrow, yes
[04:26] <superkirbyartist> IndyGunFreak, I have never seen those error messages in ANY version of windows.
[04:26] <udienz> you can try sudo dpkg-reconfigure
[04:26] <floris84> martyyyr: maybe you could try another network card if you have a spare lying around
[04:26] <Jack_Sparrow> greyghost: How many partition are on the system now?
[04:26] <LouisvilleLIP> that's because Ubuntu isn't windows
[04:26] <freepenguin> hello everybody
[04:26] <IndyGunFreak> superkirbyartist: well, it must be all linux's fault
[04:26] <tom_> superkirbyartist: With MS most real thinking is done for you, just turn your $ over.
[04:27] <martyyyr> floris84: Yeah, I thought of that. I don't really have spare ones lying around tho :)
[04:27] <floris84> martyyyr: is it possible for you to run windows? or maybe another live cd to see if the issues maintain?
[04:28] <greyghost> Jack_Sparrow , One fat32 (windows) , one swap and / ext3 from the  failed ubuntu install
[04:28] <martyyyr> floris84: That box has been running on windows for 2 years (up until 2 weeks ago). Never had this problem, it all started when I installed ubuntu.
[04:28] <Jack_Sparrow> greyghost: Just wanting to make sure that wasnt the problem..limit is 4 primary
[04:28] <howlingmadhowie> superkirbyartist: a segmentation fault means that a process is trying to access an area of memory it shouldn't be accessing. evolution is usually pretty stable (i don't think it has ever crashed on me). what version of ubuntu are you using?
[04:29] <greyghost> yep that i know..
[04:29] <IndyGunFreak> martyyyr: good thing is, network cards are extremely cheap.
[04:29] <dbzdeath> martyyyr: what network card is connected to your modem? are you using native or ndiswrapper drivers?
[04:29] <greyghost> Jack_Sparrow , the livecd partioin manager shows an exclamation mark next to my windows partition that normal?
[04:30] <martyyyr> dbzdeath: This is the card: Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21041
[04:30] <martyyyr> [Tulip Pass 3] 
[04:30] <dbzdeath> ah... tulip
[04:30] <Jack_Sparrow> greyghost: What is the note with it?
[04:30] <dbzdeath> martyyyr: tulip is pretty well supported in my experience
[04:31] <martyyyr> dbzdeath: floris84 gave me a link earlier about some issues with that card. That may be thecause, but if it is, I don't see how my other nic gets screwed up as well.
[04:31] <dbzdeath> martyyyr: hm... it just slows down?
[04:31] <dbzdeath> are both cards in the same computer?
[04:31] <airton> oi
[04:31] <greyghost> Jack_Sparrow , when i double click it it says unable to read contents of this filesystem ... and something about correct plugin
[04:32] <Jack_Sparrow> greyghost: Wish I could nelp more, wife is calling me to breakfast...  but something may be up with that partition..
[04:32] <airton> alguem para falar comigo
[04:32] <martyyyr> martyyyr: Well, that tulip card drops completely sometimes, and then that other card (which connects to my LAN) becomes somewhat-extremely slow.
[04:32] <Jack_Sparrow> greyghost: It should not need anything for fat32
[04:32] <martyyyr> hm..Im talking to myself :P
[04:32] <martyyyr> dbzdeath: Yeah, they're both in the same pc.
[04:32] <LouisvilleLIP> somewhat-extremely
[04:32] <greyghost> Jack_Sparrow ,ok thanks cya ..
[04:32] <martyyyr> LouisVilleLIP: Yeah, sometimes it's a little bit, sometimes it's a lot.
[04:32] <airton> alguem do brazil
[04:33] <Safrole> How can you access a .run file from the terminal?
[04:33] <dr_willis> Safrole,  chmod +x whatever.run && ./whatrever.run
[04:33] <xstasi> bash whatever.run
[04:33] <xstasi> :p
[04:33] <dr_willis> Safrole,  of course the question next will be WHAT .run file are you tryint to use?
[04:33] <dbzdeath> Safrole: chmod +x file.run;./file.run
[04:33] <xstasi> 99% it's a self-extracting shell script
[04:33] <Safrole> It's a run file for a game I'm trying to install
[04:34] <dbzdeath> of course replace file with the name
[04:34] <iFries> Hi, I copied everything in my /home to a new hard disk. No I want to remove everything in my /home and mount the new disk at /home ... anyone can explain me how I do that ?
[04:34] <h00s> how can i change keybord layout (keymap) in ubuntu-server 7.04? no x installed.
[04:34] <Safrole> chmod +x et-linux-2.60.x86.run - didn't return anything
[04:34] <ubi455> Anyone familiar with using freenx on ubuntu?
[04:34] <dr_willis> Safrole,  you THEN run it
[04:34] <xstasi> Safrole, that's ok
[04:34] <dbzdeath> AfterDeath: yeah that's a good thing
[04:34] <martyyyr> I think I'm just gonna burn that card :/
[04:35] <dbzdeath> Safrole: then just run ./et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[04:35] <Safrole> ah okay.
[04:35] <Safrole> thank you
[04:35] <floris84> martyyyr: well it'll at least keep you warm in the cold winter
[04:35] <Safrole> This is the first time I've ever dealt with a .run file
[04:35] <martyyyr> floris84: Yeah, but I'd rather have an internet connection:)
[04:35] <xstasi> Safrole, next time
[04:35] <xstasi> be it .run .bin .whatsoever
[04:35] <dbzdeath> er how did i confuse Safrole with AfterDeath :/
[04:35] <floris84> still heat is important
[04:35] <xstasi> issue this --> file [filename] 
[04:35] <Safrole> bash: run: command not found
[04:35] <xstasi> so you see what's that
[04:35] <dbzdeath> hehe
[04:36] <superkirbyartist> Still not working.
[04:36] <martyyyr> floris84: My pc sends out a nice amount of heat too :)
[04:36] <Safrole> Is there some package I need for run?
[04:36] <dbzdeath> Safrole: type what i said above
[04:36] <dbzdeath> Safrole: er
[04:36] <dbzdeath> Safrole: minus the run
[04:36] <Safrole> ah okay
[04:36] <superkirbyartist> How can I just get a clean, new Evolution install?
[04:36] <dbzdeath> Safrole: "./et-linux-2.60.x86.run"
[04:36] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: well, if you really did copy everything (including the hidden files), you can just mount the new disk in your /home directory
[04:36] <superkirbyartist> How can I just get a clean, new Evolution install?
[04:36] <dbzdeath> Safrole: not quotation marks
[04:36] <Safrole> okay now it's going
[04:36] <Safrole> thanks
[04:36] <dbzdeath> *no
[04:36] <superkirbyartist> How can I just get a clean, new Evolution install, no data files and all?
[04:36] <LouisvilleLIP> !spam | superkirbyartist
[04:36] <ubotu> superkirbyartist: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[04:37] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: How do I do that, and.. don't I have all my files double then ?
[04:37] <dbzdeath> superkirbyartist: apt-get --purge remove evolution ?
[04:37] <astro76> superkirbyartist, rm -rf ~/.evolution
[04:37] <Safrole> the install is working, thank you all very much!!!
[04:37] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: what will happen is, you won't be able to see the content of /home on the old disk while the new disk is mounted
[04:38] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: have you copied the hidden files? (things like .gconf?)
[04:38] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: So i can't remove it ?
[04:39] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: Yes, I did
[04:39] <tom_>  Dependency question: Are there compatibility  issues ubuntustudio and the current Feisty release?
[04:39] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: do you want to mount a new disk for /home or for /home/<a particular user> ?
[04:40] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: I am the only user :)
[04:40] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: okay, well let's say you want to mount the new disk in /home directly.
[04:41] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: i trust you have formatted the disk in ext3 or reiserfs or similar?
[04:41] <iFries> ext3 :)
[04:41] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: so in /proc/partitions you can see the ext3-partition on the new disk as sdb1 or hdb1 or similar?
[04:41] <superkirbyartist> Gives me the same "segmentation fault" as before.
[04:41] <superkirbyartist> Cannot load `/usr/share/evolution/2.10/images/offline.png'
[04:41] <superkirbyartist> How can I install back these files.
[04:42] <superkirbyartist> Cannot load `/usr/share/evolution/2.10/images/offline.png'
[04:42] <LouisvilleLIP> !pastebin | superkirbyartist
[04:42] <ubotu> superkirbyartist: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:42] <LouisvilleLIP> !enter | superkirbyartist
[04:42] <ubotu> superkirbyartist: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:43] <Xecuter88> hi! i need some bluetooth help
[04:43] <dbzdeath> howlingmadhowie: fdisk -l is your friend
[04:43] <Xecuter88> i'm trying to get my bluetooth-dongle to communicate with my mobile...
[04:44] <Drizzt321> I'm redoing my home server shortly, and I typically use debian/testing. what would ubuntu server do for me that debian won't? typically all i do is nfs/smb shares, apache, mysql, and a few other minor tasks.
[04:44] <superkirbyartist> Evolution is missing a bunch of /usr/share/evolution files and now doesn't start.
[04:44] <superkirbyartist> Evolution is missing a bunch of /usr/share/evolution files and now doesn't start.
[04:44] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: I dont really know what to see.. I see this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31674/
[04:44] <Xecuter88> but nothing happends when i run "sudo hcitool cc 00:19:63:32:D4:88"
[04:44] <dbzdeath> iFries: type sudo fdisk -l
[04:44] <superkirbyartist> How do I reinstall the /usr/share/evolution files?  Please?
[04:44] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: that looks good
[04:44] <Drizzt321> Xecuter88: is your mobile's bluetooth turned on?
[04:44] <dbzdeath> iFries: should be easy to spot it
 lol, yes of course
[04:45] <IndyGunFreak> superkirbyartist: why don't you uninstall Evolution completely, via synaptic, then go to /home/.evolution  and delete that folder, then empty recycle bin, restart x, then reinstall evolution w/ synaptic
[04:45] <Drizzt321> Xecuter88: just checking.
[04:45] <Xecuter88> Drizzt321: hehe
[04:45] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: the way it looks, you currently have everything on hda1 with a swap partition at hda5. now you've added a new disk and formatted it, and it's called hdb1
[04:45] <iFries> Yes
[04:45] <superkirbyartist> Evolution is missing a bunch of /usr/share/evolution files and now doesn't start.
[04:45] <superkirbyartist>  How do I reinstall the /usr/share/evolution files?  Please?
[04:45] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31676/
[04:46] <Drizzt321> Xecuter88: when you turn your mobile's bluetooth into discovery mode (lets other bluetooth devices 'see' it), run `hcitool scan`
[04:46] <dbzdeath> superkirbyartist: aptitude reinstall evolution
[04:46] <Xecuter88> Drizzt321: yep
[04:46] <Drizzt321> Xecuter88: if you can see it, thats a really good sign, or is that how you found the BT address you're trying to use?
[04:46] <astro76> superkirbyartist, have you tried uninstalling with apt-get remove --purge evolution-common ? Because evolution-common is the package with the icons, try to do that then reinstall
[04:46] <dbzdeath> superkirbyartist: prefix with sudo
[04:46] <superkirbyartist> IndyGunFreak, I probably did that a half a dozen times already.
[04:46] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: can you paste /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab?
[04:46] <Xecuter88> Drizzt321: correct
[04:46] <Surviver> is there a way in ubuntu , before the login screen comes to let numlock turn on , just before u need to type login name and psw?
[04:46] <IndyGunFreak> superkirbyartist: well , i have my doubts if you deleted it, it would have to reinstall..
[04:47] <Drizzt321> Xecuter88: hrm...well, I'm at a loss. I don't connect to my mobile, but I've used BT for mice, gps, etc. just not my mobile so I'm at a loss now.
[04:47] <Drizzt321> I'm redoing my home server shortly, and I typically use debian/testing. what would ubuntu server do for me that debian won't? typically all i do is nfs/smb shares, apache, mysql, and a few other minor tasks.
[04:47] <Xecuter88> Drizzt321: okey then...
[04:47] <Drizzt321> Xecuter88: sorry
[04:48] <Xecuter88> Drizzt321: np
[04:48] <iFries> fstab: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31678/  , mtab http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31679/
[04:48] <iFries> howlingmadhowie:  fstab: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31678/  , mtab http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31679/
[04:48] <dbzdeath> Drizzt321: nothing really... ubuntu is mostly just easier
[04:48] <Xecuter88> anybody else? i'm trying to get my bluetooth-dongle to communicate with my mobile, but nothing happends when i run "sudo hcitool cc 00:19:63:32:D4:88"....
[04:48] <Drizzt321> dbzdeath: from a gui side, or in general?
[04:49] <Drizzt321> dbzdeath: I'm very comfortable on cli
[04:49] <dbzdeath> Drizzt321: i would say in general
[04:49] <dbzdeath> Drizzt321: but if you're messing around in config files you won't really notice a difference
[04:49] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: you appear to have it currently mounted in /media/Data. is this the partition you want mounted in /home ?
[04:49] <Drizzt321> dbzdeath: hmm...maybe I'll try it. worst case it'll be a couple of hours where I learn a little bit, and then just reinstall
[04:50] <lethologica> Is it possible to hook a samsung i730 up to ubuntu and dial up? I can do this on my windows box
[04:50] <Drizzt321> dbzdeath: does it install X by default?
[04:50] <dbzdeath> Drizzt321: yep
[04:50] <superkirbyartist> Thank you guys ^_^
[04:50] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: Yes, I mounted it there to get my files there. And yes, i want it there.. /media/Data has one directory, my username dir
[04:50] <astro76> Drizzt321, server install does not install X
[04:50] <dbzdeath> Drizzt321: if you don't want X you can do a debootstrap.. hmm there is a server install i think
[04:50] <Drizzt321> dbzdeath: oh. hrm...why not. I'll learn something new I'm sure. thanks.
[04:50] <Drizzt321> astro76: oh, ok. cool :)
[04:50] <dbzdeath> Drizzt321: pretty sure there is a server install which probably has no X
[04:50] <Drizzt321> astro76: that makes sense
[04:50] <Lilacor> my sound keeps on taking a dump....what do Ido? I've already reinstalled gstreamer once but it just died again.. :(
[04:51] <Drizzt321> dbzdeath: yea, I was talking about the server version
[04:51] <dbzdeath> yeah what astro76 said
[04:51] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: well, just to be sure, i'd start by creating a tar-archive of /home or some sort of back-up copy incase everything goes wrong
[04:51] <Drizzt321> astro76: so is there much difference between debian/testing with server software install, and ubuntu-server?
[04:51] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: the easiest way to do this maybe as root to rename /home as /home_old or similar
[04:52] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: then you can move it back if necessary
[04:52] <iFries> sudo mv /home /home_old ?
[04:52] <Xecuter88> anybody? i'm trying to get my bluetooth-dongle to communicate with my mobile, but nothing happends when i run "sudo hcitool cc 00:19:63:32:D4:88"
[04:52] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: yes
[04:52] <tom_>  Dependency question: Does anyone know what compatibility  issues may exist between ubuntustudio and the current Feisty release?
[04:52] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: Now? :P
[04:52] <lethologica> Is there a free virtual machine emulator avaliable?
[04:52] <Surviver> is there a way in ubuntu , before the login screen comes to let numlock turn on , just before u need to type login name and psw?
[04:52] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: then -> sudo umount /dev/hdb1
[04:53] <superkirbyartist> Actually... STILL HAS OLD ACCOUNT SETTINGS!
[04:53] <superkirbyartist> I HATE IT!
[04:53] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[04:53] <LouisvilleLIP> superkirbyartist = ignored
[04:53] <dbzdeath> lethologica: yes try qemu or squeezebox
[04:53] <Anlar> superkirbyartist: yes, because you did not rm correct stuff from your home even though you were even given the correct command for that
[04:53] <elkbuntu> !caps | superkirbyartist
[04:53] <ubotu> superkirbyartist: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:53] <C-{pR0F> Is there MSN messenger that supports voice chat , for Linux (ubuntu)
[04:53] <howlingmadhowie> superkirbyartist: and any others: i looked in $HOME/.evolution but couldn't find the account settings. does anybody know where evolution keeps them?
[04:53] <lethologica> dbzdeath: Thanks, any advantage to one over the other?
[04:54] <superkirbyartist> IT USES SETTINGS NOT EVEN FOUND IN EDIT > PREFERENCES!
[04:54] <superkirbyartist> What is that?
[04:54] <dbzdeath> lethologica: squeezebox is much easier.. comes with a pretty gui and all
[04:54] <Anlar> C-{pR0F: amsn is the only one afaik, perhaps also kopete but it's kde trash
[04:54] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: Done, both
[04:54] <dbzdeath> lethologica: but squeezebox is based on qemu so there isn't much difference besides the gui
[04:54] <C-{pR0F> Anlar: Does it support Voice Chat ?
[04:54] <superkirbyartist> How is that an application?
[04:54] <lethologica> dbzdeath: That sounds good, I will give squeezebox a try
[04:54] <elkbuntu> superkirbyartist, please behave or the next kick will accompany a ban
[04:54] <howlingmadhowie> iFries:  now -> sudo mkdir /home
[04:54] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: Done :)
[04:55] <Anlar> C-{pR0F: afaik yes
[04:55] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: now -> sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /home
[04:55] <Surviver> is there a way in ubuntu , before the login screen comes to let numlock turn on , just before u need to type login name and psw?
[04:55] <Xecuter88> i'm going to post this until i get some answers! i'm trying to get my bluetooth-dongle to communicate with my mobile, but nothing happends when i run "sudo hcitool cc 00:19:63:32:D4:88"
[04:55] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: Also done
[04:55] <superkirbyartist> Doesn't even use the settings you tell it to use!
[04:55] <superkirbyartist> For 90 minutes!
[04:55] <flodine> can some tell me another firewall i can use like firestarter?
[04:56] <dbzdeath> Surviver: isn't that controlled by your bios?
[04:56] <Zapt> flodine, for what?
[04:56] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: now you will probably be able to access places->personal files (or whatever it's called in english or the language you're using) as normal
[04:56] <Xecuter88> flodine: firestarter is not the firewall, only a gui for the buildt in firewall in ubuntu
[04:57] <superkirbyartist> elkbuntu, why is evolution acting in a fashion that it uses settings that I don't even tell it to use?
[04:57] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: if not, we may have a rights problem
[04:57] <Surviver> dbzdeath, normally yes ... but the numlock goes on then just before the login screen goes back out ^o)...
[04:57] <elkbuntu> superkirbyartist, i dont know. i shun that application
[04:57] <dbzdeath> Surviver: odd.. i have no idea how to do that unfortunately
[04:57] <superkirbyartist> Elkbuntu, why is it using an old account, despite the edit > preferences clearly indicating a new one?
[04:57] <Surviver> dbzdeath, np :)
[04:57] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: Places > Home folder ... I can't acces it that way.. I see the icon loading in my panel, but then it disapears... I CAN acces it by going /home/martijn
[04:57] <elkbuntu> superkirbyartist, i do not know. i do not use evolution.
[04:58] <astro76> Drizzt321, with your experience level and for server, probably not much
[04:58] <UbunVIA> Yo yoo yooooo, VIA released the source for Unichrome9
[04:58] <superkirbyartist> Evolution users in the house?
[04:58] <Xecuter88> i'm going to post this until i get some answers! i'm trying to get my bluetooth-dongle to communicate with my mobile, but nothing happends when i run "sudo hcitool cc 00:19:63:32:D4:88"
[04:58] <TheShrewdDude> hey guys... I want to increase the size of my ubuntu partition
[04:58] <TheShrewdDude> anyone know how?
[04:58] <exyan> I'm trying to install ubuntu on my laptop, but it keeps haning while loading, any ideas?
[04:58] <marfi> exyan, how much ram do you have?
[04:58] <dbzdeath> TheShrewdDude: grab the gparted livecd and it's pretty easy to figure out
[04:59] <Anlar> UbunVIA: o.O does that include the mpeg4 and wmv hardware acceleration stuff?
 use gparted
[04:59] <flodine> Xecuter88 well what should i use for a firewall on ubuntu
[04:59] <tkk> hi
[04:59] <exyan> marfi 1gb
[04:59] <UbunVIA> Anlar: Sure as shit does
[04:59] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: okay. we'll put that down to the idiosyncracies of gnome for now. can you go to $HOME and try a 'ls -l'? does everything look like it should? (compare with 'ls -l' in /home_old/<user name>
[04:59] <TheShrewdDude> ok, is there a way to do something like that thru the OS?
[04:59] <Anlar> UbunVIA: zomg! awesome!
[04:59] <taomaster> exyan disable apci -off
[04:59] <superkirbyartist> Please enter the SMTP password for (abandoned account) on host smtp.gmail.com
[04:59] <Xecuter88> flodine> the firewall is allready installed!
[04:59] <marfi> exyan, does the screen turn black and just stay there?
[04:59] <UbunVIA> Anlar: and the AGP source for the integrated AGP line
[04:59] <TheShrewdDude> I have 2 ubuntu installs actually, one of the latest version and one of the LTS
[04:59] <Surviver> theshrewdude, gparted? dont know or it works never used it ..
[04:59] <dbzdeath> TheShrewdDude: well i'm pretty sure you can't resize it while it's running
[04:59] <Xecuter88> flodine> why do you need a gui, by the way?
[04:59] <Anlar> UbunVIA: I, among many others I suspect, have emailed them in the past to start doing exactly that!
[04:59] <exyan> marfi, no it just hangs
[04:59] <tkk> any one can help me! i want to install a realtek network driver?? dont know how to do it????
[04:59] <astro76> TheShrewdDude, no, the partition has to be unmounted first, you need a boot CD
[04:59] <TheShrewdDude> ok, but can't I use an OS on another partition to repartition it?
[05:00] <TheShrewdDude> oh. ;(
[05:00] <marfi> exyan, have you tried a different ubuntu disk?
[05:00] <bulmer> flodine: a firewall without rules though..and i think it maybe incomplete as the ip_conntrack is not loaded at boot
[05:00] <TheShrewdDude> well that's not a problem I guess, I have a CD-RW drive
[05:00] <astro76> TheShrewdDude, as long as you can unmount the partition you want to operate on and have gparted, yes
[05:00] <howlingmadhowie> superkirbyartist: have you already tried deleting $HOME/.evolution ? (warning, this will delete all saved mails in evolution)
[05:00] <UbunVIA> Anlar: /join #LinuxVIA
[05:00] <dbzdeath> TheShrewdDude: oh right... boot your ubuntu live cd gparted is on it
[05:00] <exyan> marfi, new different brand cd with kubuntu burned, now hanging
[05:00] <Anlar> TheShrewdDude: you could use the ubuntu livecd, it's pretty good solution
 boot your live-cd
[05:00] <dbzdeath> TheShrewdDude: stop by here if you get confused with gparted
[05:00] <TheShrewdDude> ok, now what if I wanted to get rid of one of my ubuntu installs?
[05:00] <flodine> Xecuter88 how do i know that it installed?
[05:00] <marfi> exyan, have you tried to burn another copy?
[05:00] <dbzdeath> TheShrewdDude: just delete the partition?
[05:00] <Xecuter88> it is
[05:00] <exyan> Configuring Network Interfaces [OK] 
[05:00] <TheShrewdDude> hmm
[05:01] <exyan> and just hanging there
[05:01] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: It's the same
[05:01] <Xecuter88> flodine: it is... it's buildt in
[05:01] <TheShrewdDude> Ok thanks, I'll try
[05:01] <Anlar> UbunVIA: I am not running that stuff now.. I haven't got it because of the sucky driver support :) Soon, I suspect I will buy something.. Like that the newest mobo model with all the accessories :)
[05:01] <TheShrewdDude> is there any way to test out gparted from the command line?
[05:01] <dbzdeath> TheShrewdDude: then remove the entry from grub
[05:01] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: all the rights and stuff are also the same?
[05:01] <UbunVIA> Anlar: http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=2&OSID=45&CatID=3220
[05:01] <flodine> Xecuter88 what if i want to configure it
[05:01] <exyan> marfi, as I said, I got a different cd and a different distro (not ubuntu, kubuntu this time, same stuff)
[05:01] <superkirbyartist> POP is correct, SMTP is not.
[05:01] <exyan> marfi, and it loaded ok on my desktop pc
[05:01] <dbzdeath> TheShrewdDude: uh.. you can resize and remove partitions from the command line if you want
[05:01] <exyan> I can't seem to understand this
[05:01] <TheShrewdDude> hmm ok thanks guys!
[05:01] <TheShrewdDude> you were very helpful! :)
[05:01] <TheShrewdDude> bye
[05:02] <marfi> exyan, how long have you let it sit?
[05:02] <Xecuter88> then you'll use firestarter, or something else if you don't like that ;) what do need to configure?
[05:02] <UbunVIA> Anlar: I would try to install it again, but i keep screwing it up with the kernel part
[05:02] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: Yes, also the same
[05:02] <Xecuter88> i'm going to post this until i get some answers! i'm trying to get my bluetooth-dongle to communicate with my mobile, but nothing happends when i run "sudo hcitool cc 00:19:63:32:D4:88"
[05:02] <UbunVIA> Anlar: do you think you could give me a hand?
[05:02] <bulmer> Xecuter88: do you have iptables rules on yours? if not..can you pls verify if ip_conntrack is loaded?
[05:02] <exyan> marfi, loooooooads of time
[05:02] <exyan> marfi, let's say 10mins
[05:02] <superkirbyartist> Now that's interesting...
[05:02] <tom_> tkk: This may be incorrect, but I believe that driver is in the kernel
[05:02] <exyan> but I can see that it just hangs
[05:02] <marfi> what network cards do you have installed exyan ?
[05:03] <Anlar> UbunVIA: what is your problem exactly?
[05:03] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: okay. now we have to find the UUID of /dev/hdb1 so you can add it to /etc/fstab
[05:03] <exyan> marfi, there's an nvidia lan, a firewire and broadcom wifi + bluetooth
[05:03] <Surviver> can anyone tell me how to configure wireless .. i get wireless the 29th of jul. so i can see what i have to do then ...
[05:03] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: Hopefully you know were to find it ;-)
[05:03] <Xecuter88> bulmer: sorry, don't know what you are talking about...
[05:04] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: that way it can be mounted automatically on booting (actually you don't need to do this, but ubuntu seems to have it as a convention, so we may as well stick to it)
[05:04] <UbunVIA> Anlar: When i go to install it, in root, im trying to get the kernel prepaired, and i always have it bomb out on me, then video problems at the wazoo
[05:04] <bulmer> Xecuter88: no problemo
[05:04] <astro76> !wireless | Surviver
[05:04] <ubotu> Surviver: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:04] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: enter the following -> sudo vol_id -u /dev/hdb1
[05:04] <exyan> marfi, I did get lucky and it loaded once (the 1st cd, ubuntu one)
[05:04] <UbunVIA> Anlar: Im pretty new to this all, i use to tinker with Redhat about 4 years ago.. but it was minor
[05:05] <marfi> exyan, have you tried that one since?
[05:05] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: 856b7dbe-66bc-4b1d-9944-ec80c8142d88
[05:05] <Anlar> UbunVIA: oh damn, I guess you'd better have someone that has exactly similar hardware at hand to help you :o
[05:05] <exyan> marfi, it always hanged
[05:05] <Xecuter88> i'm going to post this until i get some answers! i'm trying to get my bluetooth-dongle to communicate with my mobile, but nothing happends when i run "sudo hcitool cc 00:19:63:32:D4:88"
[05:05] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: make a note of that yourself.
[05:05] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: try this: sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab_old
[05:05] <UbunVIA> Anlar: The thing is, i think im one of the few people that know this file exists.. it was just released around 14 days ago
[05:05] <marfi> !bluetooth
[05:05] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[05:06] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: made note, and copied fstab
[05:06] <marfi> Xecuter88, is your phone bluetooth set to visible?
[05:06] <luca> hi everyone
[05:06] <Xecuter88> marfi: yes
[05:06] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: so if anything goes wrong, you just have to copy /etc/fstab_old back over /etc/fstab and move /home_old to /home
[05:06] <iFries> Yeah :)
[05:06] <Xecuter88> marfi: and i've got the mac adress
[05:07] <luca> it appears I have a sneaky connection from my box towards microsoft.com, something I want to kill. any suggestions?
[05:07] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: now you can edit /etc/fstab.
[05:07] <marfi> exyan, try to crtl+c past the configuring the network devices
[05:07] <UbunVIA> this is where i have trouble, what commad is the ubuntu kernel? and directory
[05:07] <UbunVIA> # cd /usr/src/
[05:07] <UbunVIA>        # tar jxvf kernel-source-2.6.18.tar.bz2
[05:07] <UbunVIA>        # cd kernel-source-2.6.18
[05:07] <UbunVIA>        # cp /boot/config-2.6.18-4-486 .config
[05:07] <UbunVIA>    Note: Depending on your system used, it may take 10 or 15 minutes to finish.
[05:07] <UbunVIA>    Note: Mandriva Linux 2007.0 will have the kernel source tree in /usr/src/
[05:08] <exyan> marfi, I don't think you get me when I say hangs, in haning, I mean it HANGS, nothing works, not even the cdrom eject button
[05:08] <UbunVIA>          folder when installing the kernel source rpm package
[05:08] <UbunVIA>          "kernel-source-2.6.17.5mdv-1-1mdv2007.0".
[05:08] <astro76> !paste | UbunVIA
[05:08] <ubotu> UbunVIA: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:08] <superkirbyartist> If I disable all Evolution mail accounts, I still get an unwanted, invisible smtp account.
[05:08] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: Hmm, can't use gedit.. using nano now
[05:08] <marfi> exyan, ah, i understand it now. =)
[05:08] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: i'd suggest using settings similar to the ones under /dev/hda1 for /dev/hdb1. you may want to change the last column from a 1 to a 0 however
[05:09] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: use the following -> sudo nano -w /etc/fstab
[05:09] <exyan> marfi, but I suspect it has something to do with broadcom, since the bcm43xx never worked @ linux without messing with it
[05:09] <UbunVIA> !help kernel
[05:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help kernel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:09] <MsK`> hi (again)
[05:09] <UbunVIA> !kernel
[05:09] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[05:09] <MsK`> is it possible to add a trash icon to the desktop ?
[05:09] <exyan> marfi, and I have an idea that I had my wireless+bluetooth module turned off when ubuntu actually loaded up, so I'll give it a try now :)
[05:10] <marfi> exyan, hehe, i know exactly about that. =) when you boot the live cd, try it with the "nonet" parameter
[05:10] <ziroday> MsK`: yes, use gnome preferences hide and seek
[05:10] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: Have /etc/fstab open.. Don't really understand what to do now
[05:10] <tom_>  Dependency question: Are there compatibility  issues between ubuntustudio and the current Feisty release?
[05:10] <astro76> UbunVIA, the linux kernel source package in ubuntu is linux-source
[05:11] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: look at the structure of the line beneath '# /dev/hda1'. this would be a good structure for the entry for /dev/hdb1
[05:11] <exyan> marfi, but I do need my wired net ;) ow wait, this ain't gentoo, networkless install works :D
[05:12] <marfi> exyan, you just made my day. =)
[05:12] <Ramy> how i can print on both sides of the paper and  2pages/paper in the same time, my printer HP Deskjet F380 ?
[05:12] <fawaz> hello
[05:12] <marfi> exyan, gentoo is the reason i stopped messing with linux until i found ubuntu
[05:12] <MsK`> ziroday: do you have the french name for that or the shell command ?
[05:12] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: copy that line, and edit the UUID ? Oh, and should I remove the "/dev/hdb1  /media/Data" line ?
[05:12] <marfi> exyan, http://linux.web.psi.ch/livecd/parameter.html
[05:12] <freq1420> hello
[05:12] <ziroday> MsK`: its a program, go google it, i think you can find it at gnome files
[05:12] <exyan> marfi, I loved gentoo, just that I was away from linux for some time, but now 2007.0's new pppoe thingy doesn't work, get's me Connected! but can't ping anything ;[
[05:12] <fawaz> I have problem installing WUSB54G Wireless device any help?
[05:13] <marfi> exyan, =(
[05:13] <ziroday> fawaz: use ndiswrapper
[05:13] <voyt618> hi everyone, im running Ubuntu Edgy Eft and want to upgrade my hard drive. Is there any way I can make a disk image and transfer it to the new drive?
[05:13] <marfi> tom_, looks like it. ubuntustudio has feisty repositories
[05:13] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: have a look here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31680/ . that would be my suggestion
[05:13] <superkirbyartist> Problem was with email I wanted to send.
[05:13] <fawaz> I use it but when i open it is auto close imediatly
[05:14] <exyan> marfi, btw can I cleanly uninstall kde from kubuntu and leave it without a window-manager ? then install gnome/kde back cleanly ?
[05:14] <ziroday> fawaz: please address, do you use ndisgtk?
[05:14] <exyan> or may it cause some problems and mess something up?
[05:14] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: My firefox doesn't run anymore :-/
[05:14] <ziroday> voyt618: you could try copying all the files across
[05:14] <fawaz> yes I install it from the automax
[05:14] <tom_> marfi:thanks
[05:14] <voyt618> ziroday, i'd like to keep my software and settings as well, though.
[05:14] <ziroday> voyt618: but im not sure if thats gonna work or you could lok at backuppc
[05:14] <marfi> exyan, only way i can think is to format. but theres probably a way to get it off of there.
[05:14] <freq1420> does anyone know if there's an IME pad for linux?
[05:14] <marfi> tom_, np
[05:15] <fawaz> I open it from the administration under system but imidiat claose
[05:15] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: delete the current line starting with /dev/hdb1 and add -> UUID=856b7dbe-66bc-4b1d-9944-ec80c8142d88 /home   ext3  defaults   0   0
[05:15] <ziroday> fawaz: automatix is strongly NOT reccomended on ubuntu
[05:15] <voyt618> ziroday, thank you... I'll try BackupPC (just saw their site). I dont know any programs like this for Linux so I just needed the suggestion. Thank you! :)
[05:15] <ziroday> !automatix |fawa
[05:15] <kazukisan> if i install the FLGRX drivers will Desktop Effects still work ???
[05:15] <ubotu> fawa: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:15] <ziroday> voyt618: np :)
[05:15] <voyt618> have a nice day :)
[05:15] <fawaz> ziroday: I also install it from add and remove programs
[05:16] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: Done that
[05:16] <exyan> lol marfi, can't I just apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop or something?
[05:16] <Asche> anyone know what the .sh file extension is?
[05:16] <ziroday> fawaz: ok then from a terminal can you run ndisgtk
[05:16] <ziroday> fawaz: and show what errors you get
[05:16] <marfi> exyan, yes, but there are other dependancies that come with it
[05:16] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: sorry, my bad. change the last 0 to a 2 :)
[05:16] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: Ok. fixed :)
[05:16] <exyan> ow and btw, is there a way I could get the cool gentoo command-line colors on ubuntu xD?
[05:16] <exyan> or something?
[05:17] <exyan> black'n'white gives me depression
[05:17] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: that just means it will be automatically checked every now and then. if you don't want that, you can change it back to a 0
[05:17] <Ramy> how i can print on both sides of the paper and  2pages/paper in the same time, my printer HP Deskjet F380 and i'm using cups?
[05:17] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: Nothing wrong with that :)
[05:17] <fawaz> ziroday: i get sudu or root required
[05:17] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: one thing we forgot was to check $HOME for hidden files. did you check for thngs like .gconf ?
[05:18] <Asche> anyone know what the .sh file extension is?
[05:18] <bullgard4> IntuitiveNipple: The ACPI specification deocument says: "ASL is a source language for defining ACPI objects including writing ACPI control methods." Is 'method' used here as a OOP term meaning 'a function provided by an object'?
[05:18] <ziroday> Ramy: just wait and dont repeat to often :) you might want to have a look at hp-toolbox
[05:18] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: just to make sure they were copied over when you moved everything from the old /home to the new one
[05:18] <ziroday> fawaz: tehn run it as sudo ndisgtk
[05:18] <tom_> Ramy: what HP driver is used?
[05:18] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: I checked that :) And they are copied :)
[05:18] <RainCT> hi
[05:18] <ziroday> Asche: its a program that either installs or run something
[05:19] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: okay. now we can check to see if it worked. if anything goes wrong, copy /etc/fstab_old back to /etc/fstab, unmount /dev/hdb1 and move /home back to /home_old
[05:19] <fawaz> ziroday: sudu ndisgtk i get ziroday:
[05:19] <Asche> it is supported with fiesty fawn?
[05:19] <fawaz> bash: sudu: command not found
[05:19] <bullgard4> Asche: A bash script does not have a prescribed filename extension.
[05:19] <ziroday> fawaz: sudo ndisgtk
[05:19] <ari_stress> fawaz: sudo?
[05:19] <Asche> how would I get it to run then?
[05:19] <ziroday> Asche: yes
[05:19] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: Ok :) And how do we check? By rebooting ?
[05:20] <Ramy> tom_ hplip
[05:20] <exyan> marfi and what do u know, just after a modprobe, my wireless/bluetooth and everything else works just great (broadcom lol)
[05:20] <ziroday> Asche: double click it
[05:20] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: that's as good a way as any. you're sure you know what to do if it goes wrong?
[05:20] <fawaz> ziroday : Traceback (most recent call last):
[05:20] <fawaz>   File "/usr/bin/ndisgtk", line 309, in <module>
[05:20] <fawaz>     NdisGTK()
[05:20] <fawaz>   File "/usr/bin/ndisgtk", line 111, in __init__
[05:20] <fawaz>     self.setup_driver_list()
[05:20] <fawaz>   File "/usr/bin/ndisgtk", line 140, in setup_driver_list
[05:20] <fawaz>     self.get_driver_list()
[05:20] <fawaz>   File "/usr/bin/ndisgtk", line 168, in get_driver_list
[05:20] <fawaz>     driver_name = p.search(line).group()[:-1]    # strip trailing space
[05:20] <fawaz> AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'group'
[05:20] <fawaz> fawaz@fawaz-desktop:~$
[05:20] <marfi> exyan, ubuntu FTW!!!!  =)
[05:21] <howlingmadhowie> !pastebin | fawaz
[05:21] <ubotu> fawaz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:21] <marfi> exyan, gotta reboot X...brb (hopefully)
[05:21] <Asche> ziroday: I tried that, but it doesn't work.
[05:21] <ziroday> !paste fawaz
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste fawaz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <exyan> marfi, if I could just get the cool command-line colors
[05:21] <exyan> ;] 
[05:21] <exyan> so guys, anyone got any ideas on the colors ;D?
[05:21] <Ramy> ziroday i have been searching and trying for solving this problem for 3 days without use, ##cups is not useful, so really i want your help
[05:21] <ziroday> Asche: did you make it exucatable?
[05:21] <fawaz> sorry
[05:21] <ziroday> Ramy: as i said i dont know. try hp-toolbox
[05:21] <howlingmadhowie> iFries2: did it work?
[05:21] <Asche> how do you do that?
[05:22] <ziroday> Ramy: or ring up HP
[05:22] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: Wel.. if it goes wrong ..  can I get in my system ?
[05:22] <Asche> zidoday: how do you do that?
[05:22] <albert`> hey
[05:22] <ziroday> Asche: right click, then go to permissions and select "allow this program to be exucted"
[05:22] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: if it goes wrong, you can start in secure mode by pressing escape when it starts to boot and selecting secure mode
[05:22] <albert`> can someone help me with a GRUB Loader problem? When I boot upt, it says Error 17
[05:22] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: Ok :) brb then :)
[05:22] <albert`> what I did was delete my Ubuntu partition =( and the swap
[05:23] <spleencheesmonk1> hello all. i need some help getting my epson 670 printer to work.  i'm a novice to ubuntu, but love it so far.  is anyone available to help me through step by step rather than just saying "cups" to me please?
[05:23] <Asche> zidoday: Ah, I'll give that a shot then.
[05:23] <fawaz> I lost the coversation sorry newbie
[05:23] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: Ok, then I know what to do... just in case my computer starts smoking .. thanks in advance :P
[05:23] <superkirbyartist> Settings and all are correct, but SMTP still doesn't work...
[05:23] <superkirbyartist> Says "sending message", bar freezes.
[05:23] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: brb :)
[05:23] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: it won't start smoking. good luck :)
[05:24] <ziroday> fawaz: i reccomend you go look at the excellent ndiswrapper documentation on how to do what you want
[05:24] <albert`> can someone help me with fixing my GRUB loader or getting rid of it?
[05:24] <Marfi> tom_, ubuntustudio does work in feisty. just installed it for myself
[05:24] <sam1337> 65C too hot for a graphics card?
[05:24] <ziroday> fawaz: in your circumstances install a windows driver
[05:24] <lei> o
[05:24] <superkirbyartist> TWO HOURS!
[05:24] <Outlander> two hours?
[05:24] <javaJake> Hello everyone.
[05:24] <superkirbyartist> And smtp still doesn't work.
[05:25] <Outlander> ah ok
[05:25] <ziroday> superkirbyartist: please dont shout
[05:25] <IndyGunFreak> two hours.
[05:25] <tom_> Ramy: do a locate on hplip from a xterm. Should link you with the manuals. Follow your HP owners man. May be some settings in your print manager, {CUPs ??}
[05:25] <superkirbyartist> Gmail SMTP.  If anyone at all uses it, try it out.
[05:25] <fawaz> ziroday: I really went there but when i open the application it close directly does not give me time to see the driver or to add
[05:25] <javaJake> What software checks audio files to be sure they're accurate? Its name contains paranoid... I can't remember what it is for the life of me
[05:25] <ziroday> superkirbyartist: i use it currently fine
[05:25] <IndyGunFreak> superkirbyartist: i've used it before, never had a problem
[05:25] <IndyGunFreak> you need to follow the instructions on using a secure connection.
[05:25] <spleencheesmonk1> nobody seems to b able to help when i come in here. :(
[05:25] <superkirbyartist> Ziroday, plain or login?
[05:25] <ziroday> fawaz: are you saying all applications close on you?
[05:26] <javaJake> spleencheesmonk1, everyone's very very busy
[05:26] <spleencheesmonk1> they always are. :)
[05:26] <javaJake> spleencheesmonk1, or your question may be too difficult
[05:26] <ziroday> superkirbyartist: cant remember theres loads of documentation on the web tho (hint hint)
[05:26] <Ramy> tom_ what's xterm ?
[05:26] <spleencheesmonk1> hehe. i doubt it. not for the people who know what they're doing
[05:26] <javaJake> spleencheesmonk1, often people come in here asking things that'll take an hour to fix. People here don't have that kind of time.
[05:26] <novato_br> hi, anybody knows about digital cam ?
[05:26] <ziroday> superkirbyartist: its plain
[05:26] <fawaz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31682/plain/
[05:26] <albert`> hello guys. I have a problem with my GRUB Loader when I boot up my computer, it won't allow me to boot up into any OS. This happened after I deleted my Ubuntu partition. I would appreciate it if someone could help me with this ^_^
[05:26] <javaJake> My question, on the other hand... :D
[05:27] <robert__> Hi there anybody here good with NXServer from NoMachine? I'm getting an error trying to log in
[05:27] <iFries2> howlingmadhowie, system is booting.. but it is checking my hdb becouse it has been mounted for 175 times without checking ^^
[05:27] <bulmer> spleencheesmonk1: what help you need?
[05:27] <fawaz> ziroday: only the ndisgtk
[05:27] <ziroday> albert`: er that mitte be becasue you destroyed yuor ubuntu partition. go reinstall
[05:27] <spleencheesmonk1> i'm sure there are many complex problems being solved by you helpful people. just slightly frustrating for the new user.
[05:27] <hid3> Hello everyone. I've set up a script to route with 2 ISPs. However, the problem is that I can't ping my server's IP from internal LAN which belongs to ISP1. Here's my script: http://pastebin.com/m787afdbb  Any ideas what I'm missing?
[05:27] <robert__> NXSERVER-3.0.0-63[5621] : ERROR: (exception id D8A3491D) NX> 596 stderr: xauth:  error in locking authority file /home/robert/.Xauthority
[05:27] <ziroday> fawaz: well then use the command line ndiswrapper
[05:27] <howlingmadhowie> iFries2: oh yeah. but that's a good sign that it's realised it should check it.
[05:27] <albert`> ziroday: I don't want to install Ubuntu. Is there any way to fix it without having to install Ubuntu?
[05:27] <spleencheesmonk1> bulmer - i'm looking to install /get it to work - my epson stylus 670 printer
[05:27] <ziroday> albert`: well since you deleted all your files - no
[05:27] <javaJake> spleencheesmonk1, the best place is the forums. Those are very active.
[05:27] <spleencheesmonk1> all anyone says to me is "cups"
[05:28] <javaJake> spleencheesmonk1, cups ;)
[05:28] <iFries2> howlingmadhowie, ok ;)
[05:28] <fawaz> ziroday : how to do that
[05:28] <howlingmadhowie> albert`: theoretically you can install any boot loader
[05:28] <albert`> ziroday: After I install Ubuntu, how can I remove it so the GRUB Loader won't screw up
[05:28] <spleencheesmonk1> yeah, think i need step by step instruction though.
[05:28] <bulmer> spleencheesmonk1: on your webrowser do this..   localhost:631  and click on the add printer
[05:28] <ziroday> spleencheesmonk1: System > Admin > Printing
[05:28] <albert`> howlingmadhowie: When I boot up my machine, it gives me a GRUB Loading... Please Wait. Then error 17
[05:28] <javaJake> spleencheesmonk1, System -> Administration -> Printing
[05:28] <superkirbyartist> http://www.zshare.net/image/28806191c3abca/ is the screenshot.
[05:28] <Jamesinator> When GDM loads, my mouse cursor is there, and I can wiggle it, but I'm unable to move it more than a few pixels
[05:28] <javaJake> spleencheesmonk1, bulmer, you can use the webbrowser but the GUI's more intuitive.
[05:28] <howlingmadhowie> albert`: the GRUB boot loader has a small part in the MBR and the main part is on the first partition to be booted
[05:28] <ziroday> fawaz: go google it, i dont know
[05:28] <fawaz> ziroday: please see this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31682/plain/
[05:29] <albert`> howlingmadhowie: What would be the best thing to do in my situation?
[05:29] <tunafisu> My partition table is broken, and when I try to write a new one on it, it won't 'stick', it I write changes to disk, then restart fdisk it still shows no partitions. How to proceed?
[05:29] <superkirbyartist> Did anyone take a look?
[05:29] <spleencheesmonk1> bulmer - ok, now got name, location, description
[05:29] <ziroday> fawaz: yes thats cause you used automatix which #ubuntu does NOT support
[05:29] <superkirbyartist> http://www.zshare.net/image/28806191c3abca/
[05:29] <superkirbyartist> http://www.zshare.net/image/28806191c3abca/ is the screenshot.
[05:29] <howlingmadhowie> albert`: by deleting ubuntu you deleted the main part of GRUB, and that's why it's not doing anything. the best thing to do would be to install another boot loader. you can get a small boot loader on disk which will fit in the MBR
[05:29] <bulmer> spleencheesmonk1: fill it out..and continue
[05:29] <tom_> Ramy: Xterm is the Xwindow access to the Linux terminal at which command level commands are entered. In KDE it may be Konsole.
[05:30] <spleencheesmonk1> what do i put in location? "my living room"?!!
[05:30] <javaJake> spleencheesmonk1, anything
[05:30] <deathnall> ok all i have one question. whenever i boot up unbuntu i have to keep redoing my resolution. i mean i have to go to the nvidia pannel to change it. as soon as i reset my machine its back to normal and the worst part is i cant seem to save to x configuration
[05:30] <javaJake> spleencheesmonk1, or nothing
[05:30] <javaJake> spleencheesmonk1, wait...
[05:30] <howlingmadhowie> albert`: but it's something i've never done so i'm just talking about the theory here
[05:30] <bulmer> spleencheesmonk1: where ever you or what ever you like to describe it
[05:30] <javaJake> spleencheesmonk1, what screen are you onh?
[05:30] <fawaz> ziroday: I just want to fix this only and I will find out the installation by google
[05:30] <Surviver> anyone has an idea, my internet provider said to me in a mail : "u need to synchronize your router at an hour your normally not on the pc..." so anyone know howto synchronize a router ...
[05:30] <Jamesinator> When GDM loads, my mouse cursor is there, and I can wiggle it, but I'm unable to move it more than a few pixels.
[05:30] <deathnall> im guessing i need to be able to save the config  to keep the settings right?
[05:30] <superkirbyartist> http://www.zshare.net/image/28806191c3abca/ is the Evolution screenshot.  PLEASE look at it.
[05:30] <albert`> howlingmadhowie: How can I do that? Also, would it work if I installed Windows Vista, since it has its own bootloader?
[05:30] <howlingmadhowie> iFries2: is it still checking the partition?
[05:30] <albert`> howlingmadhowie: That's ok. I was thinking of using fixmbr with my Windows XP CD as well
[05:31] <ziroday> fawaz: i dont know how, sorry, go google howto as there is excellent documentation written for you
[05:31] <howlingmadhowie> albert`: i cannot imagine a microsoft product voluntarily getting on well with another boot loader
[05:31] <albert`> howlingmadhowie: My plan is to install Windows on my PC, and Ubuntu on my external
[05:31] <superkirbyartist> http://www.zshare.net/image/28806191c3abca/
[05:31] <bulmer> Surviver: my interpretation, on/off switch need to be toggled
[05:31] <howlingmadhowie> albert`: that should be possible, but, as said, i've never done it
[05:31] <Surviver> bulmer, mzz then where thinking the same :D
[05:31] <albert`> howlingmadhowie: Ok haha. So what should I do to get another boot loader? Someone in #ubuntu asked me to download the SystemRescueCD last night
[05:31] <deathnall> guys?
[05:31] <fawaz> ziroday: i mean if there is a way that make my pc like if nothing installed from the beginning
[05:31] <spleencheesmonk1> bulmer - give me now "device for epson670" do i select parallel port epson?
[05:31] <superkirbyartist> The Evolution screenshot PLEASE look at it http://www.zshare.net/image/28806191c3abca/
[05:31] <albert`> howlingmadhowie: Oh I see. ok
[05:31] <deathnall> any ideas on the nvidia settings?
[05:31] <ziroday> fawaz: yes reinstall
[05:32] <bulmer> spleencheesmonk1: match it to what kind of interface you have
[05:32] <fawaz> thankx
[05:32] <ziroday> deathnall: edit them manually or make sure you hit "write to xorg"
[05:32] <superkirbyartist> GUYS!
[05:32] <howlingmadhowie> albert`: if you have a disk drive, you can download one of thousands of boot loaders for a single floppy
[05:32] <ziroday> superkirbyartist: please stop doing that
[05:32] <albert`> howlingmadhowie: Alright> Any recommendations?
[05:33] <howlingmadhowie> albert`: absolutely none, i'm afraid :)
[05:33] <anzan> superkirbyartist, I looked.
[05:33] <anzan> I got nothin.
[05:33] <cc1973> hi..using parallels 3 on MacBookPro...running Feisty.  Now have an issue where the boot just hangs right before login
[05:33] <albert`> howlingmadhowie: Haha thats okk. Thanks for your hlep
[05:33] <howlingmadhowie> iFries2: is it still checking?
[05:33] <spleencheesmonk1> bulmer -now gives me lots of models that do not match my printer
[05:33] <alwin> what do you call the panel mac
[05:33] <deathnall> when i go to save the settings by hitting "save x to configuration file it just says "Unable to remove old X config backup file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'."
[05:33] <spleencheesmonk1> eg - generic pcl 5c printer foomatic/cljet5 (en)
[05:33] <iFries2> howlingmadhowie, yeah ... :)
[05:34] <howlingmadhowie> iFries2: i wanna know if it worked! :)
[05:34] <bulmer> spleencheesmonk1: match it to what kind of interface you have..or closes to the model you have
[05:34] <iFries2> howlingmadhowie, what do you think what I want :P
[05:34] <deathnall> sorry im a bit lost with what ya mean?
[05:34] <bulmer> spleencheesmonk1: sometimes you may have to try and try til you get the right combo for non supported printer
[05:34] <iFries2> howlingmadhowie, 67% ..
[05:35] <Jamesinator> When GDM loads, my mouse cursor is there, and I can wiggle it, but I'm unable to move it more than a few pixels.
[05:35] <alwin> is it possible to make fisheye panel like mac in ubuntu? how to do it?
[05:35] <spleencheesmonk1> not sure how i know which interface i have. :-X
[05:35] <cc1973> any takers on using ubuntu on parallels help?
[05:35] <bulmer> spleencheesmonk1: oh well, time to pull the manual out of the box, or google it
[05:35] <spleencheesmonk1> rtfm eh?
[05:35] <spleencheesmonk1> :)
[05:36] <javaJake> spleencheesmonk1, what's your printer again?
[05:36] <albert`> Does anybody have a bootloader recommendation for me?
[05:36] <javaJake> spleencheesmonk1, I'll look it up on the Linux Printer database online and see what the status is on it
[05:36] <spleencheesmonk1> it's old epson stylus color 670
[05:36] <spleencheesmonk1> thank you javalake
[05:37] <jahid> is ther any photoshop type graphics tool in ubuntu?
[05:37] <twofclubs> quick question for you all...say you want to open a file through the terminal instead of searching for it, how would you do that?
[05:37] <bulmer> jahid  gimp
[05:37] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: PLEASE let me kiss you!
[05:37] <cc1973> gimp is pretty good jahid
[05:37] <_Somebody> jahid: sudo apt-get install gimp
[05:37] <deathnall> just type the programee in the terminal im guessing
[05:37] <Catsceo> Does skype have a linux port?
[05:37] <deathnall> i mean
[05:37] <cc1973> also use inkscape for illustrator jahid
[05:37] <jahid> Ohhh, ok:)
[05:37] <deathnall> i just type the name and thats it
[05:37] <javaJake> spleencheesmonk1, http://www.openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi in case you ever want to use it yourself
[05:37] <jahid> thanks guys
[05:37] <elkbuntu> Catsceo, yes
[05:37] <exyan> what do ya guys prefer.. Kde or gnome :)?
[05:37] <bulmer> twofclubs: man find
[05:37] <elkbuntu> !skype > Catsceo
[05:37] <deathnall> whast the duif?
[05:37] <_Somebody> Catsceo: check Skype forums
[05:37] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: now please, i'm not that kind of boy (well, i could be...)
[05:37] <deathnall> diff?
[05:38] <twofclubs> man find?
[05:38] <javaJake> spleencheesmonk1, http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_Color_670
[05:38] <twofclubs> it's an avi file
[05:38] <bulmer> twofclubs: wait..you want to edit the file?
[05:38] <javaJake> spleencheesmonk1, "works Perfectly"
[05:38] <albert`> howlingmadhowie: Say I restore my GRUB Bootloader, then what would be my next step since I don't want it here
[05:38] <twofclubs> no i wan to run it
[05:38] <IntuitiveNipple> Any Gnome VFS programmers about?
[05:38] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: Ok, won't force you ... but thanks! Thank you VERY much :-) !
[05:38] <bulmer> twofclubs: oh to run it..do you have media player installed?
[05:38] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: i'm happy to know it worked :)
[05:38] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: Me 2 ;)
[05:38] <javaJake> spleencheesmonk1, if you scroll down, you'll find a list of drivers and which one works best where
[05:38] <twofclubs> yea
[05:39] <_Somebody> Catsceo: http://skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/linux/
[05:39] <twofclubs> i just want to know what the command through the terminal is?
[05:39] <cc1973> feisty is hanging before login
[05:39] <javaJake> spleencheesmonk1, "gutenprint" is the driver to use
[05:39] <bulmer> twofclubs: or if that dont play it, try VLC player...those normally work for me
[05:39] <javaJake> spleencheesmonk1, the question is how to configure your printer to use this driver
[05:39] <cc1973> when i go into recovery mode, what can i do?
[05:39] <superkirbyartist> http://tinyurl.com/3cs3ss is the screenshot.  Not on zshare.
[05:39] <spleencheesmonk1> javalake - does that mean i'm a retard?
[05:39] <howlingmadhowie> albert: GRUB needs some files it can read on the harddrive. you could keep a minimal linux installation where you can change what gets booted, but i'd recommend in your case reinstalling the windows bootmanager
[05:40] <bulmer> twofclubs: man vlc
[05:40] <howlingmadhowie> iFries: any other questions? next time i'm in the netherlands you can treat me to a beer :)
[05:40] <javaJake> spleencheesmonk1, no
[05:40] <javaJake> spleencheesmonk1, probably not
[05:40] <albert`> howlingmadhowie: Thanks
[05:40] <twofclubs> k.
[05:40] <javaJake> spleencheesmonk1, everyone's a retard in Linux until they've learned how not to be. I was once. Don't feel bad. :)
[05:40] <spleencheesmonk1> lol. probably not.  so where am i going wrong?
[05:40] <howlingmadhowie> albert`: just don't ask me how to do that :)
[05:40] <iFries> howlingmadhowie: No ;-) Not at the moment ... and sure, just msg me ;-) ;p
[05:40] <superkirbyartist> http://tinyurl.com/3cs3ss
[05:41] <spleencheesmonk1> mind if i pm you javalake?
[05:41] <tgm4883> Is there a way to set the time to sync with an offset?  For instance, Currently when the time syncs it is a few minutes off of local time (although it is the correct hour indicating the time zone is correct)
[05:41] <alien_> hi, how can i acquire 2 dynamic ip on one nic ?
[05:41] <javaJake> spleencheesmonk1, sure... btw... did you use System -> Administration -> Printing?
[05:41] <javaJake> spleencheesmonk1, your driver is right in there!!
[05:42] <javaJake> spleencheesmonk1, just use "gutenprint (simple)" (don't know what expert does, but I assume you don't want that. :)
[05:42] <bulmer> alien_: i doubt it if you can with dhclient, but you can assign a new static ip
[05:42] <superkirbyartist> The screenshot is at http://tinyurl.com/3cs3ss
[05:43] <alwin> is it possible to make fisheye panel like mac in ubuntu? how to do it?
[05:43] <jijijojo> HI
[05:43] <alien_> i got for example second ip using vmware server on virtual machine but i dont want virtual machine runing all the time
[05:43] <alien_> earlier i tried 2 nic
[05:43] <spleencheesmonk1> javalake - i type that into terminal?
[05:43] <alien_> but after reboots main ip randomly changed
[05:44] <Ax3> simple question, what do I do with this: Add correct host key in /home/ax3/.ssh/known_hosts to get rid of this message. Offending key in /home/ax3/.ssh/known_hosts:1
[05:45] <Ax3> i dumped known_hosts and it's a big file of random characters
[05:45] <Surviver> anyone has an idea ? i use hotmail (one of my mail clients) and i want to manage it so i receive  mails in evolution from hotmail,.. but some sites say that i have to pay for that ...
[05:45] <javaJake> spleencheesmonk1, no
[05:45] <sn0> Surviver im not sure about evolution, but there is a thunderbird webmail plugin that supports Hotmail
[05:45] <javaJake> spleencheesmonk1, Up top, there are three menus. Choose System, then choose Administration, then Printing
[05:45] <jijijojo> 
[05:45] <javaJake> Type in your password when it asks
[05:45] <iFries> You DO have to pay to get your hotmail in Evolution
[05:45] <spleencheesmonk1> javalake - i got it!!!!! wooohooooO! you guys are the best!!!! thank you so much javalake, thank you too bulmer!  :D
[05:46] <javaJake> :D
[05:46] <bulmer> spleencheesmonk1: congrats
[05:46] <javaJake> spleencheesmonk1, well, thankfully your driver was there
[05:46] <javaJake> I wasn't that lucky
[05:46] <spleencheesmonk1> now all i need to do is set up a webserver and i'm home and dry.
[05:46] <stuart23> 
[05:46] <spleencheesmonk1> hahaha
[05:46] <javaJake> iFries, yes, you can use special software which will give you free POP access to webmail
[05:46] <C-{pR0F> The multiple workspaces are gone , now i have only one !!!!
[05:46] <jijijojo> 
[05:46] <Surviver> sn0, ok handy to know cause i use (mutt text based client) he supports to ... but if they say i need to pay for that ...
[05:46] <javaJake> spleencheesmonk1, oh boy. :P
[05:47] <cc1973> alwin: http://www.cypherbios.org/blog/?p=49&language=en
[05:47] <spleencheesmonk1> should be a walk in the park after that! :D
[05:47] <stuart23> 
[05:47] <jijijojo>   
[05:47] <iFries> javaJake: Oh .. I thought that hotmail disabled his pop ...
[05:47] <sn0> Surviver i dont pay, it never asked me about paying O_o
[05:47] <jijijojo> 
[05:47] <bulmer> spleencheesmonk1: patience and perseverance helps ..
[05:47] <Ax3> ENGLISH!? do you speak it!?
[05:47] <iohniron> other than wine is there a way to install exe files to ubuntu?
[05:47] <PriceChild> !cn | stuart23 jijijojo
[05:47] <cc1973> alwin: on the mac it is called a 'Dock'
[05:47] <ubotu> stuart23 jijijojo: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[05:47] <javaJake> iFries, oh, mabye... it's been a while since I've used it. Verizon gives me free Yahoo Plus, and I also use GMail, so... :)
[05:47] <alwin> cc1973, i see, thanks i will trz that
[05:47] <iohniron> other than wine is there a way to install exe files to ubuntu?
[05:47] <Surviver> sn0, some of my friends have it to ... free but other say u need to pay for it so iam totally confused:d
[05:47] <stuart23> sorry, my bad
[05:48] <iFries> javaJake: You have to pay for it since a couple of years .. if I'm right ..
[05:48] <iohniron> hello?
[05:48] <IndyGunFreak> iohniron: codeweavers, which is more or less a commercial wine, and vmware
[05:48] <iohniron> thank you
[05:48] <zpertee> is anybody running sql-ledger in ubuntu.  I've installed it with apt-get instal sql-ledger but I don't seem to know where to go from typing that command.
[05:48] <iohniron> so, codeweavers.com?
[05:48] <javaJake> iFries, no no
[05:48] <jijijojo>  
[05:48] <sn0> Surviver i vaguely remember years ago something about microsoft stopping clients getting access to http hotmail in clients, but i have been using thunderbird for ages so can't remember too well
[05:49] <IndyGunFreak> iohniron: i think but its like 30 or 40 dollars, and its still not perfect
[05:49] <javaJake> iFries, this software pretends to be you and logs into the web interface, and talks to your e-mail through the web. It then downloads everything through POP.
[05:49] <alien_> can't i make something like virtual network interface?
[05:49] <cc1973> ubuntu hanging...what commands can i run in recovery mode to access?
[05:49] <DavidCraft> hey on ubuntu server (latest version) is SSH on be default or do I have to start it?  If Its not on be default how do I make it load at startup?
[05:49] <iohniron> ok, thanks.
[05:49] <iFries> javaJake: Aaaah! ok ;-) I get it
[05:49] <Surviver> sn0, just try it :) we will see :D
[05:49] <spleencheesmonk1> i'm loving ubuntu so far.  thanks again all for your help.  no doubt i'll be back again soon with another ridiculously simple query!  ciao.
[05:49] <Surviver> sn0, if they ask for registration or stuff i just stop :d
[05:49] <IndyGunFreak> iohniron: what program are you having trouble with in wine?
[05:49] <javaJake> iFries, http://www.freepops.org/en/
[05:49] <tgm4883> Is there a way to set the time to sync with an offset?  For instance, Currently when the time syncs it is a few minutes off of local time (although it is the correct hour indicating the time zone is correct)
[05:50] <sn0> Surviver fyi http://webmail.mozdev.org/installation.html
[05:50] <iFries> javaJake: Don't need it myself :) Using Gmail
[05:50] <javaJake> iFries, betcha Ubuntu has it in apt-get as well if you enable universal repos
[05:50] <javaJake> iFries, oh, OK
[05:50] <DavidCraft> anyone?
[05:50] <FoxDie-BR> can someone help me with the nvidia restricted driver on gutsy ? i can't disable it. i already have two work-arounds but would like the real solution. /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules won't work
[05:50] <HomeRoey> Hello
[05:50] <iohniron> yeah, ubuntu is great.. I have one more question though, how do I change the desktop screen resolution?
[05:51] <javaJake> iohniron, System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution :D
[05:51] <IndyGunFreak> iohniron: system /preferences/screen res
[05:51] <iohniron> thank you
[05:51] <freebooter> you mmight have to alter your xoeg file
[05:51] <popz__> can anyone educate me on how to setup and use irc
[05:51] <freebooter> xorg
[05:51] <C-{pR0F> javaJake: The 4 workspaces are gona , now there is just one !!!!
[05:51] <HomeRoey> I've just installed Kubuntu (Feisty Fawn); I have a geforce4 video card, and I'm trying to get it to work.  I've tried installing nvidia-glx-new, but I get "no screens found" when X starts.  What am I doing wrong?
[05:51] <cc1973> johniron:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[05:51] <redmonkey> popz__: you are already using it ;)
[05:51] <HomeRoey> Also, why doesn't my middle mouse button work?
[05:51] <javaJake> C-{pR0F, OK, are you using Beryl?
[05:52] <javaJake> C-{pR0F, or Compiz? or anything flashy?
[05:52] <bulmer> I thought I understood bridging, but apparently not...can two different subnets (diff ip addr range) be bridge? it should be okay right as bridge is level 2 (mac address) ?
[05:52] <javaJake> C-{pR0F, if not, right click on the desktop switcher in the lower-right corner, and click Preferences
[05:52] <C-{pR0F> javaJake: yea , but i've installed it since a week(beryl) , but the problem just showed up today?
[05:52] <popz__> so how can i download file from others
[05:52] <javaJake> C-{pR0F, try my suggestion - change the "Number of workspaces" and see if that helps
[05:53] <HomeRoey> How do I make it so that apt-get doesn't ask for the CD-ROM for updates?
[05:53] <redmonkey> popz__: irc is not for filesharing
[05:53] <C-{pR0F> javaJake: it workes , thankx
[05:53] <javaJake> popz_, DDC or something like that. Whoever is sending to you should be able to right click you, click "Send a file".
[05:54] <C-{pR0F> javaJake: another thing , how can i make a folder prompt for a password when some 1 try to access it (if that's possible)??
[05:54] <popz__> what do u mean javajake
[05:54] <javaJake> C-{pR0F, that's not possible. Why do you want this? We may be able to find an alternative
[05:54] <cc1973> iohniron: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[05:54] <cc1973> iohniron: I thought you were johniron...my mistake
[05:55] <redmonkey> popz__: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
[05:55] <javaJake> popz_, I mean IRC is kind of the same as IM. Someone needs to send you a file, or you need to send to them.
[05:55] <FoxDie-BR> can someone help me with the nvidia restricted driver on gutsy ? i can't disable it. i already have two work-arounds but would like the real solution. /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules won't work
[05:55] <javaJake> redmonkey, Wikipedia is about as helpful as mud when it comes to things like defining IRC. :)
[05:55] <redmonkey> irc != emule
[05:55] <popz__> ok.
[05:55] <javaJake> redmonkey, depends, of course, by ut 75% of the time for me it doesn't help
[05:56] <vikku> i was able to load the win xp partition during boot time but how do i look at the files in those partition ?
[05:56] <popz__> i tried that emule
[05:56] <C-{pR0F> javaJake: just some privacy , cuz there are 3 ppl using this pc
[05:56] <cc1973> help with hanging ubuntu...recovery mode options?
[05:56] <javaJake> C-{pR0F, right right, understand, there's a way to do this
[05:56] <popz__> i cant get to download anything
[05:56] <popz__> or gtk-gnutella
[05:56] <javaJake> popz__, behind a router? Or firewall?
[05:56] <javaJake> C-{pR0F, find the folder you want to protect
[05:56] <popz__> router
[05:57] <popz__> no firewall
[05:57] <cc1973> javajake needs to be paid for the amt of support today
[05:57] <javaJake> popz__, what router?
[05:57] <cc1973> :)
[05:57] <tom_> Question realtime kernel smp in ubuntustudio:  What pitfalls may exist using this with nVidia drivers?
[05:57] <javaJake> cc1973, All in a day's work, my friend. :)
[05:57] <freebooter> i found this guy's site was pretty good for ubuntu how to's http://erusan.googlepages.com/ubuntuhowto.html
[05:57] <FoxDie-BR> can someone help me with the nvidia restricted driver on gutsy ? i can't disable it. i already have two work-arounds but would like the real solution. /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules won't work
[05:57] <popz__> dlinks
[05:57] <javaJake> C-{pR0F, join me in #javaJake-privacy
[05:57] <alwin_> cc1973, i installed like instructed, but i dont see any avant-window in gconf editor
[05:58] <vikku> i was able to load the win xp partition during boot time but how do i look at the files in those partition ?
[05:58] <javaJake> C-{pR0F, we'll continue there... I have a lot to say. :)
[05:58] <javaJake> popz__, more precisely? What model?
[05:59] <popz__> give me a sec let me go check im on wireless
[05:59] <javaJake> popz__, once you give me that, I'll be able to give you step-by-step instructions on setting up your router (complete with pics)
[05:59] <javaJake> popz__, courtesy of portforward.com, of course. :)
[05:59] <javaJake> cc1973, hey, if you want to donate, I have a PayPal account. ;)
[05:59] <sebrock> which mode is to prefeer if you have the ability to choose both on FTP server, active or passive?
[05:59] <cc1973> ubuntu hanging before login, can't get in...how to recover using command line
[06:00] <javaJake> cc1973, where does it hang?
[06:00] <popz__> java wbr1310
[06:00] <javaJake> cc1973, just before login appears?
[06:00] <cc1973> yup
[06:00] <d4rkmonkey> Hey, can anyone tell me how to stop Ubuntu from creating .Trash folders on external devices such as my iPod?
[06:00] <cc1973> javajake: yup
[06:00] <javaJake> cc1973, OK
[06:00] <javaJake> popz__, emule instructions: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Dlink/WBR-1310/eMule.htm
[06:01] <javaJake> cc1973, OK, well, we can't exactly recover without knowing what went wrong
[06:01] <javaJake> cc1973, are you in the terminal now?
[06:01] <cornell> I'm reworking my home LAN, created a temporary subnet...  and I'm switching to a different domain name (for the LAN).  Moved a second machine to the subnet, and removed its name from the /etc/hosts.  But it still shows on the network with the old name.  Where else is its host name kept?
[06:01] <cc1973> javajake: true..one sec.
[06:01] <sebrock> anyone? active or passive mode in FTP, which is the best?
[06:01] <richard__> i have a logitech quickcam pro, can someone help me step by step how to make it work
[06:01] <cc1973> javajake: i am booting up in recovery mode
[06:01] <cyberphaz> !webcam
[06:01] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:02] <popz__> ok javajake thanks im going to look into this right now. brb
[06:02] <cc1973> javajake: k...it is asking for root password...one sec.
[06:02] <richard__> i tried that bit it still not work, i need someone to help me here please
[06:02] <javaJake> cc1973, OK
[06:03] <javaJake> cc1973, where are you?
[06:03] <cc1973> javajake: I am at root
[06:03] <cc1973> javajake: wait do you mean existentially? ;)
[06:04] <javaJake> cc1973, :D
[06:04] <cc1973> javajake: i think i know what happened to get me at this point....
[06:04] <javaJake> cc1973, no, did you use "(recovery mode)" at startup, or CD, or what?
[06:04] <cc1973> javajake: recovery @ startup
[06:04] <d4rkmonkey> Why does Ubuntu create .Trash files in external devices?
[06:04] <javaJake> cc1973, OK, good
[06:04] <learningmode> hi guys. have a quick question.  i have a box an Ubuntu box that i have ssh root access to, and that is running X. i used to be able to connect via VNC, but that doesn't seem to be running. can i start the vnc server from ssh shell?
[06:04] <javaJake> Run "tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[06:04] <PriceChild> d4rkmonkey, that is nautilus... and they're folders not files
[06:04] <javaJake> Do you see anything that looks crash-ish?
[06:04] <FoxDie-BR> can someone help me with the nvidia restricted driver on gutsy ? i can't disable it. i already have two work-arounds but would like the real solution. /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules won't work
[06:05] <javaJake> cc1973, Run "tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[06:05] <d4rkmonkey> PriceChild, I meant folders, sorry about that. Why does nautilus do that?
[06:05] <javaJake> cc1973, Do you see anything that looks crash-ish?
[06:05] <PriceChild> d4rkmonkey, whenever you delete a file using nautilus, it gets moved to .trash so that it can easily be restored
[06:05] <javaJake> cc1973, tail essentially gives you the end of the file.
[06:05] <PriceChild> d4rkmonkey, once you remove it from .trash its gone forever
[06:05] <javaJake> cc1973, if you want the whole thing, use less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:05] <javaJake> cc1973, "q" quits out of less
[06:05] <d4rkmonkey> PriceChild, Is there anyway to stop it from doing that on things like my iPod? Theres a .Trash folder filled with old songs that I deleted on my iPod and its really annoying.
[06:06] <tom_> Question realtime 2.6.n kernel smp in ubuntustudio:  What pitfalls may exist using this with nVidia drivers?
[06:06] <stuart87> Hi all, I've found this trippy page that trys to explain how to get Xorg to work on my laptop: http://groups.google.com/group/915resolution/browse_thread/thread/80d987af344dcdca , but i don't get where to put the code! I've got the sources, but can't figure out where to put this stuff. Pleeeeeeeeeeease help
[06:06] <cc1973> javajake: i think i am going to have to do less....it is saying error opening  /dev/input/wacom: success
[06:06] <PriceChild> d4rkmonkey, its all or nothing...d
[06:06] <PriceChild> d4rkmonkey, shift delete deletes for ever...
[06:06] <d4rkmonkey> PriceChild, Ok, thanks
[06:06] <PriceChild> d4rkmonkey, you can disable the whole lot from edit > preferences > behaviour
[06:06] <FoxDie-BR> can someone help me with the nvidia restricted driver on gutsy ? i can't disable it. i already have two work-arounds but would like the real solution. /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules won't work
[06:07] <Surviver> sn0, hey can u give me the link again u gave me for the e-mail client i lost him ...
[06:07] <javaJake> cc1973, hmmmm... try again. I don't think wacom (a tablet PC thing) has anything to do with tail. :)
[06:07] <sn0> Surviver sure  http://webmail.mozdev.org/installation.html
[06:07] <cornell> TTFN
[06:07] <sn0> it does require thunderbird of course
[06:08] <exyan> gawd, how I hate it that ubuntu is so auto based >.< 94% of install and it hangs while installing some firewire cdrom support (lemme compile my own kernel damn it >.<_
[06:08] <cc1973> javajake: k...should I be looking at just the WWs on this?
[06:08] <Surviver> sn0, thx :D
[06:08] <javaJake> cc1973, Maybe
[06:08] <javaJake> cc1973, EE too
[06:09] <javaJake> cc1973, anything that might explain why X decided it wouldn't run
[06:09] <sn0> ye :] 
[06:09] <stuart87> Hi all, I've found this trippy page that trys to explain how to get Xorg to work on my laptop: http://groups.google.com/group/915resolution/browse_thread/thread/80d987af344dcdca , but i don't get where to put the code! I've got the sources, but can't figure out where to put this stuff. Pleeeeeeeeeeease help
[06:09] <cc1973> javajake:  k...thanks for the help...standby.
[06:09] <javaJake> cc1973, this may be beyond IRC help. It's going to be a long task - we have to figure out what went wrong, how to fix, and make sure it works
[06:09] <javaJake> cc1973, I have to leave very soon, so...
[06:09] <N[i] X> hello: i installed selinux on ubuntu but when i type in sestatus it says disabled... can anybody help?
[06:09] <javaJake> cc1973, like, 2-3 minutes
[06:09] <Anlar> exyan: just delete the modules for that from the live image before you run installation and it wont bug you again
[06:10] <javaJake> cc1973, best idea is to post /var/log/Xorg.0.log on the forums (or put it on pastebin.ca and link to it here.)
[06:10] <javaJake> cc1973, to sum, I can't help, but others should be able to
[06:10] <cc1973> javajake: i am a scrolling...ka.
[06:10] <tom_> <exyan: http://www.slackware.com/
[06:10] <cc1973> javajake: you've helped more than you know already.
[06:11] <sayers> why does every so often a program called Clearing HTTP Cache appear?
[06:11] <JerryMcFarts> ls
[06:11] <JerryMcFarts> no!
[06:11] <JerryMcFarts> quit
[06:11] <javaJake> lol
[06:11] <cc1973> javajake: i was crying in my cereal this morning....now, here i am surfing log files
[06:11] <exyan> Anlar, where do I find em ;)?
[06:11] <sparkling> hi all...anyone can help me with dosbox anche some old games?
[06:11] <dick-richardson> sayers: it's happens when you install certain kde apps...amarok for example
[06:11] <javaJake> cc1973, :)
[06:11] <stuart87> riiight...
[06:11] <floris84> sparkling: what is the problem?
[06:11] <zaxor0> i have a 2nd hard drive installed, hdb, and i want to erase everything and format it so i can use it for storage. I downloaded gparted but the old hard drive have ubuntu on it and i cant seem to erase the main partition
[06:12] <zaxor0> how do i reformat the whole drive?
[06:12] <sparkling> floris84, i'm trying to play to Little Big adventure...i've installed dosbox..configured..i've also tried dosbox launcher..but the graphic part is really poor...
[06:12] <dick-richardson> anyone familiar with random cpu soft lockups?
[06:13] <sparkling> floris84, i've configured well sound part...but i don't understand how i can configure vga settings
[06:13] <floris84> so, basically you can't get it to start in dosbox? is that correct?
[06:13] <learningmode> does anyone know how i can start vncserver to provide a session to my primary desktop from a remote ssh connection?
[06:13] <sparkling> floris84, it start...i can see all..i can hear...but the graphis is really slow
[06:14] <sparkling> i tried with new dosbox 0.70 (no repo) and with the dosbox repo 0.65
[06:14] <sparkling> same results
[06:14] <stuart87> Hi all, I've found this trippy page that trys to explain how to get Xorg to work on my laptop: http://groups.google.com/group/915resolution/browse_thread/thread/80d987af344dcdca , but i don't get where to put the code! I've got the sources, but can't figure out where to put this stuff. Pleeeeeeeeeeease help
[06:14] <kersinc> #ubuntu-es
[06:14] <floris84> sparkling: maybe you can look on this page http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/comp_list.php?showID=235&letter=L&search=little%20big%20adventure
[06:15] <floris84> stuart87: you can install 915resolution via apt-get
[06:15] <stuart87> yeah, but i apparently need to insert this code into the source
[06:16] <sparkling> floris84, thanks for help !
[06:16] <floris84> stuart87: sudo apt-get install 915-resolution
[06:16] <floris84> sparkling: hope it helps
[06:16] <stuart87> floris84: i installed it that way, and when ever i run it, it doesn't recognise my card
[06:16] <zmeiat_joro> so: irssi with bitlbee or a jabber client and a jabber server with transport for irc and icq?
[06:16] <floris84> what type is your laptop?
[06:17] <floris84> can you give me a model number
[06:17] <stuart87> floris84: its got a 865GM
[06:17] <rafaelscj> stuart87, use only sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[06:17] <stuart87> intel onboard video driver
[06:17] <stuart87> i already have, and 915resolution cant recognise the card
[06:18] <sparkling> floris84, last question, if i want to remove dosbox from repo i have to use apt-get autoremove etc etc etc...how can i remove instead dosbox if i compile dosbox 0.70 with ./configure make make install commands...?
[06:18] <stuart87> says its not in their list
[06:18] <floris84> what type of laptop do you have?
[06:18] <javaJake> cc1973, also, a more confusing but maybe helpful log would be /var/log/syslog (less /var/log/syslog)
[06:18] <stuart87> hp 6710b
[06:18] <javaJake> cc1973, ttyl
[06:18] <nandovieira> hello there!
[06:18] <floris84> sparkling: you want to ignore the repo version of dosbox? is that correct?
[06:18] <rafaelscj> stuart87, what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[06:18] <cc1973> javajake: thanks again...and give me your paypal at some point
[06:18] <bulmer> sparkling: look at the Makefile of that, and see if it has a remove or de-install target
[06:18] <cc1973> asd
[06:19] <nandovieira> I added a new sound card. How can I configure Ubuntu for using this new card?
[06:19] <stuart87> rafaelscj: 7.04 \n \l
[06:19] <tom_>  Question realtime 2.6.n kernel smp in ubuntustudio:  What are the nVidia drivers considerations about, other than lic?
[06:19] <to2> can anyone tell me how i can install thunderbird? i downloaded it now i got the map with files ... but what command do i have to type to let it install ..  ./thunderbird or ...
[06:19] <floris84> stuart maybe you can use this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/HP6710b
[06:19] <mombasa> hi there, i have some problems with the permission of the new partition ext3 on my hd, who can help me?
[06:19] <sparkling> floris84, now i want to delete all dosbox i installed and restart from 0 to make a clean try
[06:19] <vistakiller> to2 just click the icon
[06:19] <floris84> someone with the same laptop has installed  ubuntu
[06:20] <sparkling> bulmer, no de-install executable
[06:20] <floris84> sudo apt-get remove dosbox
[06:20] <javaJake> cc1973, hey, can I PM you?
[06:20] <floris84> or use synaptic
[06:20] <cc1973> sure
[06:20] <rafaelscj> stuart87, My video card is 950 gma and it works
[06:20] <to2> vistakiller, what icon? .. :p i am new to linux lol i only see 5 maps 10 files ...
[06:20] <stuart87> floris84: This site has the exact Chipset ID as mine http://groups.google.com/group/915resolution/browse_thread/thread/80d987af344dcdca
[06:20] <bulmer> sparkling: you have to edit the Makefile and see if there is a remove or de-install target..you follow?
[06:20] <javaJake> cc1973, getting my messages?
[06:20] <sparkling> floris84, ok that command is correct for doxbox installed from repo..but i've installed another dosbox also with souce code...by using ./configure, make and make install...
[06:21] <javaJake> cc1973, ack, just join #javaJae-cc1973 - I'll talk with you there
[06:21] <sparkling> bulmer, sorry but i don't know how i can do it...i'm not a programmer... :(
[06:21] <floris84> you could try make uninstall
[06:21] <SoulChild> What does this mean, and how to fix it: Driver for device eth2 has been compiled with version 22 of Wireless Extension, while this program supports up to version 20. Some things may be broken.
[06:21] <floris84> if it exists it should remove it
[06:21] <mzaza> Anyone knows a easy to use Web Editor, like the front page for linux?
[06:21] <stuart87> rafaelscj: have you got the 6710b?
[06:21] <bulmer> sparkling the doxbox you downloaded, you have to edit the file called Makefile, to see if the target remove or deinstall is in it
[06:23] <rafaelscj> stuart87, may you explain?
[06:23] <bulmer> sparkling: well if you dont know how to edit a Makefile, dont use the "compile your own" version then..just rely on the packaged version
[06:23] <vikku> how do i look at the files in mounted partition ?
[06:23] <bulmer> if your intention is to remove it later
[06:24] <bulmer> vikku ls -la /mountpoint
[06:24] <stuart87> rafaelscj: what laptop do you have?
[06:24] <rafaelscj> stuart87, ah, Acer TravelMate 4220
[06:25] <rafaelscj> stuart87, do you want to get 1280x800? is this?
[06:25] <stuart87> rafaelscj: no, i cannot start X at all!! It is soo bad
[06:26] <Bulli> Hi@ all I have a question to compiz-fusion
[06:27] <rafaelscj> stuart87, I think that the 915resolution is only to do that...
[06:27] <vikku>  bulmer: i've patition mounted on /media/windows ....so is ls -la /media/windows ??
[06:27] <stuart87> floris84: Sorry for being such a newbie, but i cant apt-get the first line from the page you sent me, i get "E: Couldn't find package linux-kernel"
[06:27] <bulmer> vikku yes
[06:28] <stuart87> rafaelscj: Thanks, but it won't recognise my chipset, even though it says it is supported in the docs
[06:28] <vikku> bulmer, will try now
[06:28] <vikku> thnks
[06:28] <sebrock> hey, guys. If I can use both passive and active mode on my ftp server which is to prefeer???
[06:29] <Anlar> stuart87: you have to downgrade 915resolution, that version is broken..
[06:29] <Campino> hi
[06:29] <Anlar> stuart87: they issued a bugfix via software channels and that slightly "fixed" version is just screwed up
[06:29] <rafaelscj> stuart87, did you try to use Ubuntu 6.06 live cd?
[06:30] <stuart87> Anlar: What issue is good? And can I apt-get it?
[06:30] <Campino> i got the following message when i connect my isdn-ap: Cant connect L2CAP socket
[06:30] <Campino> can anybody help me?
[06:30] <stuart87> rafaelscj: Yes, and it also wouldn't work
[06:30] <Anlar> stuart87: open synaptic, find 915resolution, select it, from the up menu PAckage -> Force version
[06:30] <slaq> is anyone here running dualhead on nvidia with one DVI and one analog?  i'm having trouble getting my xorg.conf right :(  the second head (crt) isn't detected...  it works fine with two analog (crt) :\
[06:30] <stuart87> Anlar: ... no X :-(....
[06:30] <Anlar> stuart87: just one tiny notch dotwn the version.. then Apply
[06:31] <Anlar> err
[06:33] <Anlar> stuart87: ok, apt-get remove 915resolution, and then look at /var/cache/apt/archives/ ... it should contain two package versions of 915resolution, sudo dpkg -i <older-filename>
[06:33] <Anlar> ugly but works. :)
[06:33] <surkit> anyone know how to word wrap a file in linux like notepad on windows
[06:34] <lwizardl> hi
[06:35] <dbzdeath> surkit: totally depends on the file editor
[06:36] <lwizardl> when I play any video files (in vlc, movie player, or mplayer) the video shows a black screen until i move the window around a few times. anyone know how to fix?
[06:36] <dbzdeath> lwizardl: maybe try setting the driver to xv
 I only have one version of 915resolution in the archive
[06:37] <lwizardl> dbzdeath, how?
[06:37] <dbzdeath> lwizardl: um... are you using gmplayer or mplayer?
[06:37] <lwizardl> mplayer
[06:37] <stuart88> Anlar: I only have one version of 915resolution in the archive
[06:37] <lwizardl> but it does it in vlc & movie player also
[06:37] <dbzdeath> lwizardl: mplayer -vo xv file.avi
[06:38] <Anlar> stuart88: which vresion?
[06:38] <bobbob1016> Does anyone know a program that can burn data to DVDs spanning multiple DVDs?  I have a 20ish gig to burn, and I was wondering if what burning software would do that
[06:38] <dbzdeath> lwizardl: does that fix it?
[06:38] <stuart88> 0.5.2
[06:38] <Anlar> stuart88: the whole version, they are all 0.5.2
[06:38] <stuart88> Anlar: 0.5.2-10
[06:38] <stuart88> sorry
[06:38] <Anlar> stuart88: the last number?
[06:39] <Anlar> stuart88: that's not it all yet
[06:39] <stuart88> Anlar: 0.5.2-10ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[06:39] <surkit> i want to split my hdd half with ubuntu half windows, i have windows on here currently using 100gb's and want to give linux 100gb's also. I booted from cd, went to the partition tool, resized it by dragging, and pressed go. It stayed on 0% then locked up, any ideas?
[06:39] <lwizardl> dbzdeath, yes in mplayer
[06:39] <HomeRoey> hi all
[06:40] <dbzdeath> lwizardl: yep that would be it then.. so .. in vlc look in the options see if you kind find the driver settings
[06:40] <alienjeff> CAMERA ASSAULTS PHOTOGRAPHER: http://webpages.charter.net/alienjeff/overheard.html
[06:40] <alienjeff> ;)
[06:40] <dbzdeath> lwizardl: if you can't find it i can open it up and find it
[06:40] <HomeRoey> question:  I'm trying to use Envy to install nvidia but I keep getting this error no matter which kernel I try:  "dpgk-deb - Debian revision ('generic') doesn't contain any digits", which produces a fatal build error.  Does anyone know what's up with this?
[06:40] <zero-9377> anyone know of a way to logout of x via command line from another terminal...dont want to just kill x because i will then have to reboot to get back in
[06:41] <talisein> .
[06:41] <Anlar> stuart88: ahh. yet other new problem.. that is a new one, 32-bit version of that usually works
[06:41] <bulmer> zero-9377: huh? you are logged in how?
[06:42] <popz__> javajake r u still on
[06:42] <DMG-KV> hello, quick question, how can i use mirc in ubuntu?  i just saw a screenshot where someone was using it... made me curious :)
[06:42] <xtknight> !wine | DMG-KV
[06:42] <ubotu> DMG-KV: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:42] <xtknight> !virtualization | DMG-KV
[06:42] <ubotu> DMG-KV: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[06:42] <zero-9377> im logged in via ssh to the computer that the x server appears frozen on
[06:42] <zero-9377> and i want to logout of that unresponsive x cleanly
[06:43] <osxdude|lap> i run pidgin on ubuntu
[06:43] <GeeK> Hello all, I installed ubuntu feisty last night and all was well, untill i tried to get my nvidia drivers running, now i can not get a workable resolution out of x
[06:44] <popz_> javajake r u on
[06:44] <Nsb> hi anybody know where i can find broadcom inject drivers for ubuntu??
[06:44] <xtknight> Nsb, what's inject?
[06:44] <jahid> how do i install a deb package?
[06:44] <xtknight> jahid, sudo dpkg -i <debpkg>.deb
[06:45] <jahid> xtknight, thanks
[06:45] <Nsb> [xtknight]  a driver for security
[06:45] <xtknight> jahid, besides, you can also double click on it
[06:45] <jahid> xtknight, ohh ok:)
[06:45] <Nsb> it`s for inject traffic
[06:45] <lwizardl> dbzdeath, thanks
[06:45] <Nsb> a variaton of the original driver
[06:45] <surkit> Nsb http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=broadcom&DokuWiki=e0ae8477b619cbede0574ef203cda81d ?
[06:45] <GeeK> so anyone here have a working nvidia in ubuntu feisty  ?
[06:46] <xtknight> GeeK, yea
[06:46] <lwizardl> also what codec do i need to play rmvb ?
[06:46] <Nsb> [GeeK]  me too
[06:46] <xtknight> !w32codecs | lwizardl, for rv30 and rv40 realmedia codecs
[06:46] <ubotu> lwizardl, for rv30 and rv40 realmedia codecs: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[06:46] <GeeK> i duno what i did wrong , i installed and ubuntu gdm seemed to be running great, got it to play movies and stuff from my NAS and was all cool
[06:46] <novato_br> why don't run ubuntu in pc with less 512MB of ram ?
[06:46] <HomeRoey> Hi, I tried envy and got (halfway through the build process) "dpkg-deb - Debian revision (`lowlatency') doesn't contain any digits", which led to a fatal make error.
[06:47] <HomeRoey> Can anyone help me install nvidia?
[06:47] <xtknight> !xubuntu | novato_br, it does, just very slowly.  Xubuntu is a better option for 512m machines
[06:47] <ubotu> novato_br, it does, just very slowly.  Xubuntu is a better option for 512m machines: xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[06:47] <lwizardl> !w32codecs
[06:47] <GeeK> then i tried to get my nvidia working, used the secure drivers thing in the settings
[06:47] <GeeK> now i cant get a workable resoultion out of the thing
[06:47] <GeeK> monitor keeps telling me its a bad resolution
[06:47] <novato_br> xtknight, i want know what is the version to run with less 512MB of ram?
[06:48] <xtknight> GeeK,  hmm sometimes that happens.
[06:48] <xtknight> GeeK,  and somethings UseEDID "no" in nvidia settings can help
[06:48] <xtknight> sometimes*
[06:48] <GeeK> ive tried everything i have read about dpkg-reconfigure
[06:48] <xtknight> novato_br, Xubuntu
[06:48] <GeeK> nvidia's xconfigure
[06:48] <litlebuda> !xubuntu-channels
[06:48] <ubotu> Support: #xubuntu | Developer Discussion: #xubuntu-devel | Offtopic chatter: #xubuntu-offtopic
[06:48] <xtknight> GeeK, gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:48] <GeeK> and even some manual xorg.config work , i just cant get it to give me anything
[06:49] <xtknight> GeeK, for that matter, pastebin your xorg.conf
[06:49] <GeeK> put the useedid false in the device section ?
[06:49] <xtknight> GeeK, actually no just wait
[06:49] <GeeK> im on a different machine
[06:49] <xtknight> GeeK, pastebin xorg.conf, and pastebin the output of "sudo ddcprobe"
[06:49] <GeeK> cause i have no X on mine
[06:49] <xtknight> oh
[06:49] <xtknight> GeeK, get it running in vesa first?
[06:49] <GeeK> ddcprobe eh ? havent heard of that
[06:50] <xtknight> ddcprobe lists resolutions and refresh rates suppoted by your monitor
[06:50] <captine> hi all.  am serously struggling to install 64bit 7.04 on notebook
[06:50] <xtknight> captine, any more details?
[06:50] <stuart89> captaine: Whats wrong?
[06:50] <GeeK> ah, well my monitor likely isnt going to list supported res correctly
[06:50] <captine> got to the graphicl install once
[06:51] <GeeK> as its not realy a monitor
[06:51] <captine> then sys hung
[06:51] <xtknight> GeeK, which monitor?
[06:51] <novato_br> xtknight, xubuntu  is lightweight ?
[06:51] <xtknight> GeeK, oh you're in via ssh?  but what monitor is physically on that computer?
[06:51] <GeeK> its a Matrox
[06:51] <xtknight> novato_br, yea
[06:51] <stuart89> captine: what is your laptop?
[06:51] <novato_br> cool, xtknight
[06:51] <captine> tried with noapic and nolapic, and didnt even make to graphical install screen
[06:51] <Anlar> novato_br: in reality xubuntu is not any more light weight because you can't live with just xfce applications.. and you have to start some others, which will pull in half of the gnome anyways
[06:51] <GeeK> It splits the incomming video signal to 3 different monitors
[06:51] <captine> compaq presario v5120nr
[06:51] <xtknight> oh compaqs have buggy bios
[06:52] <xtknight> captine, acpi=off might be a better option.  also "pci=routeirq".  for someone else with a compaq acpi=off helped.
[06:52] <HomeRoey> hi bluefox83
[06:52] <captine> xtknight, wish i new that 2 years ago :)
[06:52] <GeeK> ddcprobe gives "vesa bios extensions not detected"
[06:52] <xtknight> captine, no worries you will get it working, probably
[06:52] <bluefox83> hi
[06:52] <novato_br> but, Anlar the gnome app don't run on xfce?
[06:52] <xtknight> GeeK, oh matrox dvi splitteR?
[06:52] <GeeK> its the pre DVI version
[06:52] <xtknight> novato_br, any apps run on XFCE
[06:52] <GeeK> its all analog
[06:52] <xtknight> xfce uses GTK
[06:53] <Anlar> novato_br: of course they do, just fine. and some xfce applications are so bad that you have to use couple gnome applications anyways
[06:53] <novato_br> cool
[06:53] <uukchuen> hello! I am looking for people who develops graphical applications 4 ubuntu, anyone here?
[06:53] <captine> xtknight, shot.  will try now.  takes sooo long with the graphical instaler.  must admit, prefered the previous one
[06:53] <xtknight> GeeK, hmm.  so can you ever get any X to display?  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" ?
[06:53] <GeeK> but it worked great fresh ubuntu install
[06:53] <xtknight> !alternate | captine
[06:53] <ubotu> captine: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[06:53] <novato_br> ok
[06:53] <novato_br> thx
[06:53] <GeeK> iv rus dpkg-reconfigure every way i have read about
[06:53] <xtknight> captine, use the text mode installer
[06:53] <tech13> I have been using kopete with a spelling checker plugin for a while. During a distro upgrade, I lost the plugin. How do I get it back?
[06:54] <captine> xtknight, do i need the alternate cd to get text installer?
[06:54] <gilster> hello all....i am looking for a piece of software that allows me to copy protect an Audio CD
[06:54] <xtknight> GeeK, so again X doesnt run at any res at all whatsoever?
[06:54] <xtknight> captine, yea
[06:54] <xtknight> captine, try acpi=off on normal one
[06:54] <captine> in south africa, bandwidth too expensive.  and slow too download.  will try with graphical
[06:54] <xtknight> captine, it may be faster
[06:55] <bush> hello, can anyone help me
[06:55] <GeeK> X apears to run without an error
[06:55] <xtknight> !ask | bush
[06:55] <ubotu> bush: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:55] <GeeK> however the monitor displays an error that its a bad resolutiojn
[06:55] <gilster> in windoze i used to have some programs that integrated with clone cd that allowed me to burn an audio cd with cd protection like cactus shield etc....does anyone know of such a thing for fesity
[06:55] <captine> xtknight, am trying
[06:55] <captine> thankx
[06:55] <GeeK> and i dont know how to tell what resolution its putting out
[06:55] <bush> i installed ubuntu and it randomly hangs
[06:55] <xtknight> GeeK, ah i see
[06:55] <xtknight> GeeK, have you tried hooking it up directly ( - the matrox thing)
[06:55] <dick-richardson> bush: hit ctrl-f1
[06:55] <HomeRoey> hi, anyone here??
[06:55] <GeeK> i have read about xdpyinfo in the command line , but its not working
[06:55] <HomeRoey> I have no X and I must scream.
[06:56] <dick-richardson> er...crtl-alt-f1
[06:56] <xtknight> !fixres | HomeRoey
[06:56] <ubotu> HomeRoey: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:56] <kditty> i have a question about wirless internet. i installed feisty on an old computer for my daughter, when i go to connect to the internet i get the usual can not connect to site webpage. ubuntu picks up the card, and finds my network in the list but when i connect i can not get online even though the icon says im connected
[06:56] <HomeRoey> why is this so difficult to install?  I have a geforce4 card and I can't get X working on it.
[06:56] <bush> alt-f1 doesnt do anything
[06:56] <dick-richardson> ctrl-alt-f1...ctrl-alt-f7 to get back
[06:56] <GeeK> looks like a dpkg-reconfig xserver-sorg to go back to vesa seems to have gotten it back working
[06:56] <HomeRoey> xtknight: thanks, but it's not the resolution, I fixed that.  It's the proprietary driver that I want to install.
[06:56] <GeeK> im in X now :)
[06:56] <GeeK> but with no nvidia drivers
[06:56] <xtknight> kditty, type "ping www.ubuntu.com" in the terminal
[06:57] <xtknight> kditty, does it appear to work?
[06:57] <dick-richardson> when you're at ctrl-alt-f1, look for any errors
[06:57] <xtknight> !nvidia | HomeRoey
[06:57] <kditty> xtknight: ill have to check, brb
[06:57] <bush> keyboard doesnt work, neither mouse its just freezes
[06:57] <ubotu> HomeRoey: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:57] <HomeRoey> thanks.
[06:57] <HomeRoey> ubotu: are you a bot?
[06:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about are you a bot? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:57] <HomeRoey> oh, ok.
[06:57] <xtknight> !bot | HomeRoey
[06:57] <ubotu> HomeRoey: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:57] <dick-richardson> bush: what type of computer are you running?
[06:57] <HomeRoey> :)
[06:57] <xtknight> ;)
[06:57] <richard_> i have a logitech quickcam pro, can someone help me make it work, please
[06:58] <johan__> hoe instaleer ik amsn
[06:58] <gilster> i want to create audio cd protection on a cd i am burning...anyone know how...
[06:58] <bush> celeron 1.7ghz, 256 ram, nvidia geforce mx400
[06:58] <kditty> xtknight: unknown host
[06:58] <dick-richardson> laptop?
[06:58] <bush> no desktop
[06:58] <richard_> i have a logitech quickcam pro, can someone help me make it work, please
[06:58] <captine> xtknight, eish, it takes long to boot the desktop cd.
[06:58] <xtknight> kditty, okay.  try "ping 82.211.81.158"
[06:59] <dick-richardson> does it lock for 10 seconds, then unfreeze for a couple, then lock again?
[06:59] <xtknight> kditty, make sure it's those numbers exactly (those are ubuntu.com's ip address octets0
[06:59] <sudeep> how to install xmms.. in 1.04
[06:59] <GeeK> so is the right way to setup an nvidia card to use the "restricted drivers manager" ?
[06:59] <xtknight> !info xmms | sudeep
[06:59] <dick-richardson> or is it just frozen until you reboot
[06:59] <sudeep> how to install xmms in 7.04
[06:59] <ubotu> sudeep: xmms: Versatile X audio player. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.2.10+20061201-1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 794 kB, installed size 6304 kB
[06:59] <bush> no it just freezes and doesnt respond again and i have to restart
[06:59] <xtknight> sudeep, sudo apt-get install xmms
[06:59] <xtknight> GeeK, ya definitely
[06:59] <richard_> hello anyone can help me
[06:59] <GeeK> ya , thats what i did last time
[06:59] <bush> im on it right now so it might hang again
[06:59] <dick-richardson> !ask | richard
[06:59] <ubotu> richard: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:59] <GeeK> it apeared to rewrite my xorg.config, and then i couldnt get a workable res
[07:00] <xtknight> kditty, if you cant ping www.ubuntu.com but you can ping the numbers, that means you have no valid DNS servers.  if you can't ping either, something else is wrong
[07:00] <clay> quit
[07:00] <SoulChild> Is there a programm that shows me which channel is used by a W-LAN network ?
[07:00] <richard_>  i have a logitech quickcam pro, can someone help me make it work, please
[07:00] <HomeRoey> thanks xtknight, but there are no real instructions there
[07:00] <HomeRoey> :(
[07:00] <xtknight> SoulChild, channel, as in frequency?  or something like that.  try iwconfig
[07:00] <xtknight> HomeRoey, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#head-7f830fe17ae6da7c546decbb10c32ff61471258e
[07:00] <xtknight> for nvidia
[07:00] <GeeK> it apears to install nvidia-glx, but reading online my card seems to need nvidia-glx-new
[07:00] <xtknight> HomeRoey, what do you have?  nvidia or ati?
[07:01] <dick-richardson> bush: that's a tough one...I'd start with a memtest
[07:01] <xtknight> just for future ref
[07:01] <kditty> xtknight: network unreachable
[07:01] <segmentfault> hello. excuse me to disturb you, I am here because I cannot resolve a problem with OpenOffice on Ubuntu feisty. I have only this message:   WARNING **: Unknown error forking main binary / abnormal early exit ... (and amsn works curiously.. big characters since, I don't know if that's the same problem..) . what do you purpose me ? (sorry for sentences)
[07:01] <HomeRoey> xtknight: nvidia geforce4 ti4200
[07:01] <xtknight> GeeK, so sudo apt-get --remove nvidia-glx && sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[07:01] <kditty> but network icon shows me connected at 82% strength. could that be wrong?
[07:01] <xtknight> kditty, wireless you said?
[07:01] <GeeK> ya , i tried that last time
[07:01] <richard_> dick richardson
[07:01] <richard_>  i have a logitech quickcam pro, can someone help me make it work, please
[07:01] <kditty> yes wireless
[07:01] <GeeK> didnt make much of a differance
[07:01] <HomeRoey> xtknight: (I'm very slow with looking up web pages because I have type this out by hand into lynx--remember, I don't have X working)
[07:01] <aquarius> I don't have my machine turned on all the time; does this mean that cron jobs that are scheduled to run while it's turned off won't run? If I install anacron, will that fix that, or do I have to do something else as well?
[07:01] <SoulChild> xtknight: typing iwconfig eth2 didn't show me any info about the W-LAN channel
[07:01] <sudeep> how to get mp3 codec only...
[07:01] <dick-richardson> richard_: I don't have any experience with web cams :(
[07:01] <xtknight> HomeRoey, ohh
[07:02] <xtknight> HomeRoey, well i can read 'em off i guess
[07:02] <HomeRoey> ok
[07:02] <HomeRoey> I mean,
[07:02] <xtknight> SoulChild, and what about "iwlist scan"
[07:02] <richard_> ok
[07:02] <HomeRoey> I just want to follow command-line instructions that will get me back to /something/
[07:02] <HomeRoey> heh
[07:02] <xtknight> HomeRoey, okay
[07:02] <xtknight> HomeRoey, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[07:02] <dick-richardson> xtknight: what does -phigh do?
[07:02] <richard_>  i have a logitech quickcam pro, can someone help me make it work, please
[07:02] <SoulChild> xtknight: great, thanks
[07:02] <gilster> in windoze i used to have some programs that integrated with clone cd that allowed me to burn an audio cd with cd protection like cactus shield etc....does anyone know of such a thing for fesity
[07:02] <HomeRoey> xtknight: one sec
[07:02] <xtknight> dick-richardson, only shows high priority questions
[07:02] <RainCT> I've a Intel 82845G and just got a new screen. How can I get it work with 1440x900? I'm trying with 915resolution and now I'm able to choose it in gnome but it displays it wrong and on information (screen inbuild) it says a completely different resolution.. any idea?
[07:03] <dick-richardson> slick!
[07:03] <Billu> .
[07:03] <zerokill88> my eth1 network interface is disabled. how do i enable it?
[07:03] <HomeRoey> xtknight: ok, did that.
[07:03] <segmentfault> no idea for my OpenOffice problem?
[07:03] <xtknight> zerokill88, sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[07:03] <dick-richardson> zerokill88: sudo ifup eth1
[07:03] <richard_> well i have no luck
[07:03] <gilster> i am sending away a cd with my tunes to some studio. I want to place copy protection on it
[07:03] <HomeRoey> xtknight: it said something about overwriting possibly customized configuration and saving a bacup of it
[07:03] <xtknight> zerokill88, you should use network manager, not ifconfig, to enable interfaces, though.
[07:03] <xtknight> or maybe just to configure them
[07:04] <richard_> i have a logitech quickcam pro, can someone help me make it work
[07:04] <xtknight> HomeRoey, thats ok
[07:04] <xtknight> HomeRoey, nothing that worked anyhow
[07:04] <HomeRoey> xtknight: ok
[07:04] <captine> xtknight, the cd booted, but has a logon screen..  is there a standard username?
[07:04] <lwizardl> can you do transparent video windows in mplayer ?
[07:04] <HomeRoey> xtknight: I mean, it didn't do anythign past that.
[07:04] <xtknight> HomeRoey, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:04] <zerokill88> xtknight i did. everything is set up.and lshw shows me it sees my hardware
[07:04] <xtknight> captine, just wait 30 seconds
[07:04] <sudeep> is there any place i can get usplash screen other than provided by ubuntu..?
[07:04] <bush> dick-richardson: sry it hanged
[07:04] <dick-richardson> richard_: it doesn't look like there's anyone on that's familiar with your problem right now :/
[07:04] <SoulChild> I love Debian!!!
[07:05] <xtknight> zerokill88, so what's wrong again?
[07:05] <xtknight> !usplash | sudeep
[07:05] <ubotu> sudeep: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[07:05] <captine> ok
[07:05] <Cola> Hello
[07:05] <zerokill88> when i use sudo ifup eth1 i get   : send_packet: Network is down
[07:05] <xtknight> !hi | Cola
[07:05] <ubotu> Cola: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:05] <xtknight> zerokill88, with sudo?
[07:05] <richard_> yes unfortunatly
[07:05] <xtknight> oh nm
[07:05] <zerokill88> xtknight ya
[07:05] <Roeyk> nvidia
[07:05] <xtknight> that's odd
[07:05] <Cola> where i can download xchat for ubuntu
[07:05] <xtknight> zerokill88, is eth1 a wired or wireless adapter?
[07:05] <Roeyk> xtknight:  hi from X!
[07:05] <dick-richardson> bush: I was suggesting a memtest to start. when ubuntu locks, it's often hardware related...be it bad hardware or incompatible drivers, etc.
[07:05] <xtknight> Cola, sudo apt-get install xchat
[07:05] <richard_> what chanel can i go to have halp
[07:05] <xtknight> Roeyk, ;)
[07:06] <zerokill88> xtknight its wireless, and its for a desktp and the lights arent blinking on it
[07:06] <bush> dick-richardson: i did a memtest and all passed
[07:06] <xtknight> zerokill88, wireless adapters use iwconfig.
[07:06] <Cola> xtknight: reading pakege lists ... Done
[07:06] <xtknight> zerokill88, sudo iwconfig eth1 up
[07:06] <abraxas__> hi, I have this problem with alsa http://pastebin.com/m18d0118c  this is the dmesg: http://pastebin.com/m4f7a67df
[07:06] <dick-richardson> bush: next thing I'd try is booting to the live cd...see if locks there
[07:06] <Cola> xtknight: biulding dependncey ....tree ...done
[07:06] <xtknight> Cola, and it should ask you to install xchat..
[07:06] <Cola> xtknight: E : Culdn't find find packege xchat
[07:06] <xtknight> Cola, what verison of ubuntu?
[07:06] <zerokill88> xtknight error unreconized wireless request "up"
[07:07] <Roeyk> xtknight:  ok, what next?
[07:07] <xtknight> zerokill88, hmm... try "sudo ifdown eth1 && sudo ifup eth1"
[07:07] <Roeyk> (also why doesnt' my mouse scrollwheel work??)
[07:07] <xtknight> Roeyk, what adapter do you have?
[07:07] <zerokill88> xtknight and under iwconfig it shows its there and configured
[07:07] <Roeyk> xtknight:  geforce4 ti4200
[07:07] <xtknight> Roeyk, dunno we will work about that later
[07:07] <bush> dick-richardson: ok ill try that right now
[07:07] <captine> xtknight, by 30seconds, do u mean wait for u to finish helping other? or that it should auto login?
[07:07] <xtknight> captine, auto ogin
[07:07] <xtknight> zerokill88, so any signal strength?
[07:07] <zerokill88> xktnight thats what i did, and i get the send_packet network is down
[07:07] <captine> eish.  no such luck
[07:07] <xtknight> Roeyk, ok nvidia-glx package should do it.  ill give you link again
[07:08] <Roeyk> ok
[07:08] <xtknight> Roeyk, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#head-7f830fe17ae6da7c546decbb10c32ff61471258e
[07:08] <SoulRaven> hy, i have some problem with cacti and snmpd, anyoane?
[07:08] <zerokill88> xtknight signal level =-254 dBm
[07:08] <Cola> xtknight : how i can know the version ?
[07:08] <xtknight> zerokill88, hmm doesnt look too good to me
[07:08] <captine> anyone know a standard username?
[07:08] <xtknight> zerokill88, weak signal, most likely
[07:08] <bush> dick-richardson: when i open add/remove programs it often hangs right then
[07:08] <captine> for login on live cd
[07:08] <zerokill88> xtknight ah i see
[07:08] <xtknight> Cola, "lsb_release -a" in the terminal
[07:08] <xtknight> !info xchat dapper
[07:08] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[07:09] <xtknight> !info xchat hoary
[07:09] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.0-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 295 kB, installed size 796 kB
[07:09] <Roeyk> xtknight:  "As of Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) the recommended way to install the binary drivers is to use System  Administration  Restricted Devices Manager"  <-- where is this?  I don't find it under the K menu at all.
[07:09] <xtknight> Roeyk, ummm
[07:09] <GeeK> Can i run my text editor in X like i can run sudo nana , so i can edit read only files ?
[07:09] <xtknight> :\
[07:09] <abraxas__> howto build the latest alsa-driver to get rid of unresolved symvols
[07:09] <ShackJack> Hi all - looking at Password Manager proggies for GNOME - "Revelation" and "GPass" look interesting - anyone have any opinions on the subject or know of better one I should be looking at?>
[07:09] <xtknight> Roeyk, i dont know..
[07:09] <xtknight> Roeyk, #kubuntu would know
[07:09] <captine> xtknight, sorry to hound, but any idea of the username? or should i restart?
[07:10] <xtknight> captine, username for what?  where?
[07:10] <Roeyk> ktogias:  ok
[07:10] <Roeyk> thans
[07:10] <zerokill88> xtknight shouldnt the card at least be blinkinh
[07:10] <Roeyk> xtknight:  ok, thanx
[07:10] <xtknight> zerokill88, maybe not
[07:10] <zerokill88> xtknight maybe i need to modprobe something?
[07:10] <captine> live cd is asking for username and password (logon screen)
[07:10] <xtknight> zerokill88, if it's not accessing
[07:10] <xtknight> zerokill88, i dont think so, the module is loaded your signal seems to be poor though
[07:10] <exyan> ok, if I wanna do anything via sudo it still asks me for the god damn root password
[07:10] <xtknight> zerokill88, bring it closer the access point?
[07:10] <zerokill88> xtknight ok
[07:10] <xtknight> if it's a laptop
[07:10] <zerokill88> xtknight on windows it worked
[07:10] <xtknight> exyan, it's asking you for your password, not root's password
[07:11] <exyan> how the hell can I change from vesa to nv in kde without my root password >.<
[07:11] <exyan> xtknight rly?
[07:11] <xtknight> zerokill88, ive heard of this before.  maybe it's a bug in the driver
[07:11] <cc1973> !info feisty issues
[07:11] <ubotu> Package feisty does not exist in feisty
[07:11] <xtknight> exyan, yea
[07:11] <exyan> mkay
[07:11] <Ramy> how i can print on both sides of the paper and  2pages/paper in the same time, my printer HP Deskjet F380 and i'm using cups?
[07:11] <zerokill88> xtknight ya
[07:11] <SoulRaven> hy, i have some problem with cacti and snmpd, help plase.....
[07:11] <cc1973> duh me
[07:11] <captine> xtknight, live cd giving me logon screen?
[07:11] <xtknight> captine, it says at the bottom usually.  wait 10 seconds or a minute
[07:12] <captine> xtknight, no such thing.  will reboot
[07:12] <Cola> xtknight :6.06
[07:12] <xtknight> Cola, ok you need to enable universe
[07:12] <xtknight> !universe | Cola
[07:12] <ubotu> Cola: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:12] <Cola> ooooook
[07:15] <abraxas__> howto build the latest alsa-driver to get rid of unresolved symvols???
[07:15] <WankusMusculus> Does anyone know what "X11:1" is and why its opened my port 6001?
[07:16] <d4rkmonkey> WankusMusculus, something to do with Xserver I guess...
[07:16] <N[i] X> hello, i accidentaly deleted the tray of software in use off my panel.. how do i get it back?
[07:16] <d4rkmonkey> WankusMusculus, I'm not completly sure though, I know the xorg.conf file to configure X is in /etc/X11 but I dunno why it would open any ports
[07:16] <WankusMusculus> I never noticed it before drkmonkey, it before, how would I close it?
[07:16] <julio14> the system try?
[07:16] <d4rkmonkey> N[i] X, what do you mean?
[07:16] <ShackJack> N[i] X: Right - click panel - and "Add to Panel" -> Window list... :)
[07:16] <d4rkmonkey> WankusMusculus, no idea, sorry
[07:17] <cc1973> N[i] X: shackjack
[07:17] <Ramy> how i can print on both sides of the paper and  2pages/paper in the same time, my printer HP Deskjet F380 and i'm using cups? can you suggest any another channel or any tool to solve my problem ?
[07:17] <cc1973> nvrmind
[07:17] <Urodi> Is it possible to get ssh to recognise local hostnames?
[07:17] <WankusMusculus> Ok, I've just done a fresh install of xubuntu, seems very strange. I'll head over to the xubuntu chatroom. Thanks anyway.
[07:17] <xavier_> Hi, i 'm on Ubuntu Feist but i got a problem with sound of windows media player streaming movie. I have the video but not the sound. I installed pluging for firefox Kaffeine Player and win32 codecs, sound doesn't work on streaming movie encoded windows media player. What do you think ? Thx
[07:17] <whonicca> anyone familiar with using ncftp behind a nat firewall/router
[07:17] <d4rkmonkey> xavier_, whats Kaffeine Player?
[07:18] <mzaza> Is there free driver for Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950?
[07:18] <xavier_> d4rmonkey it's a movie player
[07:18] <IrishDave> hello, does anyone know how to clean an ntfs partition so that it will just boot instead of me having to force it from command line? its an external disk with no windows install so I cant just boot to windows twice
[07:18] <xavier_> like mplayer
[07:18] <GeeK> anyone familiar with xdpyinfo?
[07:19] <d4rkmonkey> xavier_, I use mplayer in firefox and it works fine for me. You can always try right clicking the movie and selecting open with whatever and see if that works any better
[07:19] <mzaza> Is there free "open source" driver for Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950?
[07:19] <N[i] X> d4rkmonkey, shackjack, cc1973: i deleted the panel, not the window list... you know the panel you send ur programs to that u dont want on your window list? like banshee or amsn?
[07:19] <azi> hm.. i'm unable to start ubuntu installation with my brand new laptop Intel X31000 graphic card as X doesn't want to start :-(
[07:19] <d4rkmonkey> mzaza, I don't believe so.
[07:19] <azi> anyone clued what could i do to fix it?
[07:19] <d4rkmonkey> N[i] X, do you mean the like little tray thing?
[07:19] <xavier_> d4rkmonkey i tested mplayer and the player but also they are no sound on this movie : http://secret-story.tf1.fr/secret-story/live/22-24/0,,3474651,00-secret-flux-live-.html
[07:19] <PriceChild> mzaza, installed and should be running by default
[07:20] <N[i] X> d4rkmonkey: yes
[07:20] <xavier_> but it's working with windows xp
[07:20] <d4rkmonkey> xavier_, thats weird...
[07:20] <SoulRaven> hy, i have some problem with cacti and snmpd, help plase.....
[07:20] <IrishDave> hello, does anyone know how to clean an ntfs partition so that it will just boot instead of me having to force it from command line? its an external disk with no windows install so I cant just boot to windows twice
[07:20] <d4rkmonkey> N[i] X, right click your panel, select add to panel, then choose the Notification Area
[07:20] <GeeK> my X seems to be running without error , but i can not get a workable resolution out of it, despite what i configure in xorg.config, in fact i dont even know for sure what resolution it is putting out, im reading that xdpyinfo will give me the details about X's current running parameters, but i can not get xdpyinfo to run as i dont know the name of the screen...
[07:20] <SoulRaven> cacti is not reading the interface snmpwalk
[07:20] <d4rkmonkey> N[i] X, that should be it, it might not have all the apps in it right now once you add it though, you might have to restart aMSN and things like that
[07:21] <mzaza> PriceChild I know, but I mean only "open source". Which can be used for example in gobuntu
[07:21] <N[i] X> d4rkmonkey: ok, it works... thanks
[07:21] <d4rkmonkey> No problem N[i] X
[07:21] <whonicca> can u limit the ports ncftp connnects to?
[07:21] <IrishDave> hello, does anyone know how to clean an ntfs partition so that it will just boot instead of me having to force it from command line? its an external disk with no windows install so I cant just boot to windows twice
[07:21] <PriceChild> mzaza, the intel driver is open source...?
[07:21] <xtknight> mzaza, i815?
[07:21] <d4rkmonkey> PriceChild, I thought the intel drivers were restricted
[07:21] <xtknight> no
[07:21] <Roeyk> PriceChild:  hello there :)
[07:21] <mzaza> xtknight yes
[07:21] <xtknight> open source maybe not GPL
[07:21] <d4rkmonkey> oh ok xtknight
[07:21] <N[i] X> d4rkmonkey: you dont have any clue how to install selinux to ubuntu? i installed it but it gives me sestatus disabled... any ideas?
[07:21] <xtknight> i dont know
[07:22] <d4rkmonkey> I'm just wondering, whats the point of Gobuntu?
[07:22] <d4rkmonkey> N[i] X, whats selinux?
[07:22] <_jahid_> ohh
[07:22] <d4rkmonkey> !selinux
[07:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about selinux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:22] <PriceChild> d4rkmonkey, #ubuntu-offtopic and grr :)
[07:22] <xtknight> i think it's MIT license
[07:22] <mzaza> d4rkmonkey it uses only free open source software.
[07:22] <bobdrakken> anyone know of a linux key logger
[07:22] <xtknight> mzaza, doesnt X.org i815 work with it?
[07:22] <bobdrakken> that is any good
[07:22] <mzaza> xtknight I think so.
[07:22] <captine> i find it interesting thar ubuntu live cd will boot, then after restarting machine, it wont boot.
[07:22] <N[i] X> d4rkmonkey: security enhanced linux. developed by the national security agency
[07:22] <captine> weird
[07:22] <xtknight> mzaza, well that is open souce
[07:22] <mzaza> xtknight ok thanks :)
[07:22] <bobdrakken> i want to see what my sun is up to
[07:23] <bobdrakken> anyone know of a key logger for linux
[07:23] <d4rkmonkey> mzaza, but isn't that restricting you? if you can only use free/open source software that restricts things you can use, why not use normal Ubuntu and only use free software, that way if you really NEED to you can use non-free software
[07:23] <azi> so anoyne knows what could i install to get my graphic card INTEL X3100 working?
[07:23] <d4rkmonkey> sorry N[i] X I don't know how
[07:23] <azi> i can't install ubuntu as X doesn't start
[07:23] <richard_> can anyone help me with my logitech quickcam pro
[07:23] <d4rkmonkey> PriceChild, why did you direct me to offtopic? (just wondering)
[07:23] <xtknight> i think it's illegal to use closed source drivers on a gpl distro.  i could be wrong
[07:23] <xtknight> in the US it's also illegal to use mp3 unless you have a license from mpeg ;)
[07:24] <d4rkmonkey> xtknight, I don't think it would be illegal that would just be retarded (to use closed drivers)
[07:24] <bluefox83> azi, let me guess, you booted the livecd and X wouldn't start, right?
[07:24] <kitche> xtknight: well it's a grey area really :)
[07:25] <azi> bluefox83: correct
[07:25] <azi> bluefox83: as it can't find the gpu driver or something
[07:25] <massctrl> Is here someone that uses pptp client to connect to the relakks.com service ?
[07:25] <Asche> does one have any real experience with wine?
[07:25] <xtknight> Asche, yea
[07:26] <d4rkmonkey> Asche, a bit
[07:26] <bluefox83> azi, sometimes it doesn't load the right driver the first time...it can sometimes require a few restarts for the livecd to get it right...if you know what driver to tell the kernel to load, you can use sudo modprobe <module> to load it, and then just sudo startx
[07:26] <bluefox83> azi, sadly no livecd gets it right every time
[07:26] <||drake||> alright
[07:26] <Asche> ktnight: sweet.  I"m trying to get it working so I can get eve-online to run.  any tips on what I should do?
[07:27] <xtknight> Asche, check the WINE application database for that game
[07:27] <||drake||> if sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:27] <||drake||> does not work
[07:27] <d4rkmonkey> Asche, what've you done so far?
[07:27] <justin__> would anyone know how on earth after i did and install, setup everything, and i rebooted after a while, only to find my ubuntu isntallation the same as if it were just installed with any of my files and programs i installed gone?>
[07:27] <||drake||> how do i kill X?
[07:27] <PriceChild> d4rkmonkey, because this channel is for support, not chatter :)
[07:27] <azi> bluefox83: well i only know it's an intel graphic card named X3100. i don't know what's the proper driver
[07:27] <d4rkmonkey> PriceChild, I was asking about something Ubuntu-related ;)
[07:27] <justin__> i did a fakeraid install, worked fine, was using it for a while, then rebooted and its like i was never logged into my system
[07:27] <azi> bluefox83: do you know how to find it out'
[07:27] <PriceChild> d4rkmonkey, but not support
[07:27] <d4rkmonkey> PriceChild, ok :)
[07:27] <d4rkmonkey> azi, I think I have the same gpu
[07:27] <Asche> well I downloaded it and that's about all up to this point.
[07:28] <xtknight> justin__, did you do stuff on the livecd then reboot or something?
[07:28] <bluefox83> azi, google "Intel X3100 linux driver" should help
[07:28] <d4rkmonkey> azi, I had to install on the alternate CD then install some drivers and play around with xserver
[07:28] <justin__> xtknight, yea
[07:28] <d4rkmonkey> azi, I'll do a quick check for you if you would like, I have an HP 6710b btw
[07:28] <xtknight> justin__, the livecd does not write stuff to disk
[07:28] <||drake||> if sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop does not work, how do i stop xserver from running? aka, after i edit xconf.org, how do i reboot x?
[07:28] <bluefox83> that's rather odd for the kernel to not have an intle gpu driver O.o
[07:28] <justin__> xtknight, no no, i did the install and booted to the hd
[07:28] <azi> bluefox83: well it doesn't
[07:28] <azi> bluefox83: i googled before asking
[07:28] <bluefox83> *intel
[07:28] <Anlar> ||drake||: ctrl-alt-backspace
[07:28] <azi> d4rkmonkey: i have a hp too
[07:29] <||drake||> anlar: that doesn't work either, that just logs me out
[07:29] <whonicca> anyone good with ncftp or know where I can get help?
[07:29] <||drake||> anlar: somehow without rebooting X
[07:29] <Anlar> ||drake||: just keep hitting it
[07:29] <d4rkmonkey> azi, I'll give you some help in like 5 seconds, let me do some quick searches to make sure I know what I'm talking about
[07:29] <||drake||> Anlar: alright, here goes...
[07:29] <bluefox83> ||drake||, what are you trying to do?
[07:29] <justin__> xtknight, i did though at one point have to boot back to the livecd and fix something with grub after i made a partition change, but i had rebooted plenty of times befoer, then all of a sudden bam, i was back to liek i had a fresh install
[07:29] <WankusMusculus> ok, i figured the problem out, XGL opens up port 6001!
[07:29] <Asche> d4rkmonkey: well I downloaded it and don't know how to get it set up right.
[07:29] <xtknight> justin__, odd, ive never heard of it before
[07:29] <Anlar> azi: it's supported by newer intel drivers, which are in the next release of X.org.. :) that's awesome hardware :)
[07:29] <justin__> xtknight, its very very strange
[07:30] <azi> Anlar: it is??
[07:30] <azi> Anlar: damn i'm so excited to get my laptop working :l
[07:30] <WankusMusculus> Why does XGL open port 6001?
[07:30] <d4rkmonkey> Asche, try running the Eve online file with wine, in a terminal type wine then the file thats the EVE online setup
[07:30] <xtknight> gutsy has a new Xorg
[07:30] <Anlar> azi: with some manual tinkering that will work with Ubuntu.. yeah gma3100 is just awesome :P
[07:30] <justin__> xtknight, its happened 2x, the first time i figured i just didnt set something up correct
[07:30] <d4rkmonkey> azi, let me get you a link that has a guide
[07:30] <azi> d4rkmonkey: nicee
[07:30] <d4rkmonkey> azi, my brother wrote it up but its all on my laptop with the same chipset
[07:30] <bluefox83> WankusMusculus, prolly for remote desktop
[07:30] <Asche> d4rkmonkey: ok, I'll give it a shot.
[07:31] <d4rkmonkey> azi, http://blaise.ca/blog/?p=14 thats the one that my brother wrote, that is basically everything that I did to get mine working
[07:31] <xtknight> justin__, not sure what to say..probably some type of bug
[07:31] <Bsims> I need help setting up ktorrent any one have any ideas on how to get my speed over 2kps?
[07:31] <WankusMusculus> Hi bluefox83, should I be worried? I don't run any remote desktop or anything like that.
[07:31] <justin__> xtknight, you think it would have anything to do with mounting the proc and sysfs while in the livecd
[07:31] <justin__> before doing the chroot
[07:31] <Catsceo> stupid question: how do I rename files via the command line?
[07:31] <xtknight> justin__, huh?
[07:32] <||drake||> Anlar: that didnt work at all
[07:32] <xtknight> justin__, how are you installing this?
[07:32] <bluefox83> WankusMusculus, i wouldn't be worried, i'd just check to see that you turned off all the remote options for gdm O.o
[07:32] <d4rkmonkey> azi, one thing about it though, with those xorg fixes there, my brother included my little description of what I did on each, if you decide to use that erase anything beside an arrow
[07:32] <justin__> xtknight, i followed the fakeraid howto install
[07:32] <Bsims> Catsceo: mv Old_name newname
[07:32] <CerebroJD> xtknight, it doesnt sound like its actually installing anything...
[07:32] <||drake||> Anlar, as i said, it just logs me out, then crashes or something... it just sits there with an hourglass for forever
[07:32] <katze> re
[07:32] <xtknight> justin__, ah yea chances are it's something in there.  but i dont know a whole lot about debian installs/chroot/etc
[07:32] <Catsceo> Bsims: thanks
[07:32] <WankusMusculus> bluefox83, how would I check that?
[07:33] <azi> d4rkmonkey: thank you very much
[07:33] <justin__> CerebroJD, i had a full install working, booting off the hd and everything, made a partition change a couple days later, booted into a livecd to fix grub, and now its like nothing was ever installed
[07:33] <azi> d4rkmonkey: i hope it'll help
[07:33] <xtknight> hm
[07:33] <d4rkmonkey> azi,  no problem, I hear its much better in Gutsy, theres still some problems with feisty, but I'm gonna wait for the full Gutsy release
[07:33] <exyan> is it safe to set to 'nv' instead of 'vesa' with a fresh install? (gf 7200)
[07:33] <||drake||> alright, if sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, ctrl+alt+backspace, and ctrl+alt+f2 do not kill xserver, how do i just simply reboot x?
[07:33] <||drake||> it shouldnt be this hard
[07:34] <Gizmo_the_Great> Hi. I just want to check that I am not mad! I have installed Feisty. I have /etc/fstab setup to mount my various data drives (3 seperate physical disk drives). Every time I reboot though Ubuntu assings different /dev/*** values to each drive. So the first time I booted it /dev/sda1 was /dev/sda1. The next time the same disk was /dev/sdb1 etc. What gives? Is it me or the OS?
[07:34] <xtknight> exyan, for 7 series cards?  maybe, but it could crash.  i know my 7800gt crashes with 'nv'.  lots of others do too
[07:34] <bluefox83> WankusMusculus, System->Preferences->Remote Desktop
[07:34] <xtknight> !uuid | Gizmo_the_Great
[07:34] <ubotu> Gizmo_the_Great: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[07:34] <xtknight> Gizmo_the_Great, use UUIDs in /etc/fstab instaed of /dev blocks
[07:35] <xtknight> they are persistent
[07:35] <xtknight> but they are only on Edgy +
[07:35] <Asche> d4rkmonkey: ok, I ran it and it gave me this error.  "your wineserver binary was not upgraded correctly, or you have an older one somewhere in your PATH."
[07:35] <Gizmo_the_Great> xtknight, Whooah dudes...easy! Whats all this UUID about then? I guess I need to read up
[07:35] <xtknight> Gizmo_the_Great, heh yup
[07:35] <bluefox83> ||drake||, one way to kill X is to kill gdm's pid with sudo kill -9 <pid>
[07:35] <WankusMusculus> Ah, thanks bluefox, appreciate the help
[07:35] <xtknight> Gizmo_the_Great, basically in place of "/deb/sdb1" it's UUID=long-code-blah-blah
[07:35] <xtknight> Gizmo_the_Great, and type "blkid" to get codes
[07:35] <endo> how can I get a task manager?
[07:35] <xtknight> endo, gnome-system-monitor
[07:36] <endo> thank you sir
[07:36] <||drake||> bluefox83: thanks man. i'll see if that works
[07:36] <d4rkmonkey> Asche, hmm try running sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get upgrade then try again, I have to get some things so I'll be afk for a bit. Try the wine APP databse too,
[07:36] <exyan> xtknight, so what should I do now? get nvidia drivers, then set nv?
[07:36] <CTho> why is super not treated as a modifier in the "keyboard shortcuts" preferences dialog?
[07:36] <xtknight> exyan, nvidia official drivers are "nvidia"
[07:36] <xtknight> not nv
[07:36] <CTho> i want super+L to lock the creen
[07:36] <CTho> screen
[07:36] <Gizmo_the_Great> xtknight, great. I just get used to the Linux drive assignment system, then they change it!
[07:36] <CTho> not just super
[07:36] <xtknight> Gizmo_the_Great, partially at least
[07:36] <xtknight> Gizmo_the_Great, UUIDs are used only for fstab, for the most part
[07:37] <d4rkmonkey> Asche, http://appdb.winehq.org/appbrowse.php thats the app database
[07:37] <Gizmo_the_Great> xtknight, i suppose there is a logical reason for this change? Or is it an act of madness by some crazy individual?
[07:37] <tunafisu> I have managed to destroy my partition table. Can the information from it be found from anywhere on the root partition?
[07:37] <xtknight> Gizmo_the_Great, partly both
[07:37] <xtknight> :P
[07:37] <Steve^> Hey, are there keyboard shortcuts for special vowels, like putting ^ or ticks over os and es?
[07:37] <Asche> d4rkmonkey: alright.  I'll give it a shot.
[07:37] <xtknight> Gizmo_the_Great, it's because of the problems you're having with different drive assignments coming up as /dev/sdb one day and /dev/sdc the nxet
[07:38] <bluefox83> tunafisu, what makes you think you destroyed your partition table?
[07:38] <xtknight> Gizmo_the_Great, so it assigns a UUID (uniquely universe id)
[07:38] <endo> finally figured out what was hogging my system down. It's that damn beagle!
[07:38] <HorizonXP> can someone help me with Tilda?
[07:38] <xtknight> universely unique..
[07:38] <Gizmo_the_Great> xtknight, i did wonder why my IDE drives were being seen as SCSI devices
[07:38] <xtknight> tunafisu, instal testdisk
[07:38] <n2diy> Steve^: yes ctrl+shift+hex-code
[07:38] <xtknight> !info testdisk | tunafisu
[07:38] <ubotu> tunafisu: testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.5-1build1 (feisty), package size 550 kB, installed size 1784 kB
[07:38] <xtknight> you can recover data
[07:38] <xtknight> Gizmo_the_Great, ya that's libATA
[07:38] <xtknight> new kernel thing
[07:38] <bluefox83> endo, beagle sucks as far as cpu and memory consumption, if that's what you are worried about, try google desktop, it runs at a much lower cpu and memory usage level
[07:39] <endo> bluefox83: I will give that a go. Can Affinity run off of the google desktop?
[07:39] <endo> Affinity is so sexy
[07:39] <bluefox83> endo, whats affinity?
[07:39] <sulle> I have made a samba server and i need a login script so that windows clients can login and see their "home directories and other dirs". annyone that can give me a url to a howto or maybe help me out?. realy need help. =)
[07:39] <ExxonE> Hi! I've got an D-link dwl-g122 H/W: C1, and have some problem with it. It doesn't seem to be supported by ubuntu from starters, so I followed a guide to "install" support in a "ra73"-driver, this didn't work either and someone told me to install GTKwifi, I did and started it, and nothing happens, BUT, and this is what bothers me, when I exit GTKwifi all of a sudden the d-link starts. I dont want it this way, I want it to work on start. Is th
[07:39] <ExxonE> ere anyone who has a suggestion?
[07:39] <Steve^> n2diy, nothing seems to be happening.. got an example code?
[07:39] <tunafisu> I already tried testdisk and it didn't find anythin
[07:39] <d4rkmonkey> !affinity
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about affinity - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <d4rkmonkey> :(
[07:40] <bluefox83> endo, btw google desktop isn't a desktop envornmrny, it's just a desktop search tool
[07:40] <slabby> Hi, probably stupid question but here we go. I have installed screenlets but cant start it. How do I load it?
[07:40] <learningmode> i'm new to ubuntu/linux, and am hoping someone can tell me how to enable the built-in vnc server via a remote ssh connection so that i can use vnc to see my desktop? i find helpfiles, but most of them are console centric, or vnc over ssh centric.  vncserver commands don't work (not found), but i'm sure i've logged into this machine before via vnc.
[07:40] <endo> bluefox83: http://code.google.com/p/affinity-search/
[07:40] <meridian> xtknight, captine here again (diff nick).  looks like notebook cdrom no longer reading anything
[07:40] <meridian> completely bust
[07:40] <xtknight> hmmm
[07:40] <xtknight> eh?
[07:40] <endo> for searching google only? not your files?
[07:41] <Gizmo_the_Great> xtknight, looks like it's down to Alan Cox
[07:41] <n2diy> Steve^: yes ctrl+shift+a9 =
[07:41] <bluefox83> slabby, right click an empty spot on the taskbar, go to "add to panel" then select it from the list, and click "add"
[07:42] <bluefox83> slabby, shoudl also be in Applications->Accessories
[07:42] <bluefox83> *should
[07:42] <Steve^> n2diy, Hold ctrl+shirt, press a then 9 and release?
[07:42] <n2diy> Steve^: yes
[07:42] <Steve^> n2diy, this should work in gedit?
[07:42] <xtknight> meridian, even with no acpi=off option it still doesnt work at all>?
[07:42] <n2diy> Steve^: yes
[07:43] <Steve^> n2diy, well.. its doesn't :(
[07:43] <d4rkmonkey> Steve^, ctrl+shift+u then a9
[07:43] <d4rkmonkey> then space is 
[07:43] <n2diy> Steve^: let me double check it here.
[07:43] <bluefox83> endo, i don't think it'll work with that...
[07:43] <Steve^> d4rkmonkey, ah thanks.. that works
[07:43] <Steve^> not very user-friendly
[07:43] <bluefox83> endo, google earth displays results in mozilla firefox
[07:43] <Gizmo_the_Great> xtknight, and others...I have read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks re the LibATAforDisks. However, I still don't understand how I am supposed to assing my drives with mount points in /etc/fstab. If I have a main OS drive (/dev/sda1), and three other data drives (/dev/sdb1, sdc1, sdd1) how do I set them in fstab?
[07:43] <d4rkmonkey> No problem Steve^ :) its kinda like alt code from windows, except it uses unicode
[07:44] <Steve^> I was hoping something like ctrl-shift-e gives the special e
[07:44] <n2diy> Steve^: yep, works here in gedit.
[07:44] <d4rkmonkey> Steve^, I'm so used to alt code though :( I don't know much unicode...
[07:45] <Steve^> d4rkmonkey, I think I'll stick to plain letters for now, if I need to learn unicode as well as another language :P
[07:45] <ExxonE> is there a DC-client to ubuntu that is good?
[07:45] <xtknight> Gizmo_the_Great, type blkid to get IDs for them
[07:45] <HorizonXP> can someone help me with Tilda?
[07:45] <d4rkmonkey> Steve^, haha I bet theres some list on the internet somewhere, also you can go into that special characters thing but it takes way longer
[07:45] <sulle> ExxonE: yes ther is. give me a sec
[07:45] <xtknight> Gizmo_the_Great, and then, instead of "/dev/sdb1 /mnt/point", use "UUID=theCodeYouGotFromBlkid /mnt/point" in fstab
[07:45] <ExxonE> sulle: Thanx!
[07:45] <Gizmo_the_Great> xtknight, and then enter those values instead of /dev/sdb1 etc?
[07:45] <Gizmo_the_Great> xtknight, OK - got it. thanks
[07:46] <sulle> ExxonE: DCCP Linux DC++ client
[07:46] <xtknight> Gizmo_the_Great, actually your fstab should already haev a few UUIDs in it?
[07:46] <xtknight> Gizmo_the_Great, do you use at least Edgy?  otherwise this wont work
[07:46] <Gizmo_the_Great> xtknight, yes - it has - for the OS drive
[07:46] <xtknight> ok
[07:46] <ExxonE> sulle: Am i able to apt-get it?
[07:46] <sulle> if you have automatix2 www.getautomatix.com u can easyly get it there =)
[07:46] <Gizmo_the_Great> xtknight, fesity fawn
[07:46] <d4rkmonkey> sulle, automatix is bad
[07:46] <d4rkmonkey> !automatix
[07:46] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:47] <n2diy> ! automatic | ExxonE
[07:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automatic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <xtknight> Gizmo_the_Great, yup youre all set then
[07:47] <n2diy> ! automatix | ExxonE
[07:47] <ubotu> ExxonE: please see above
[07:47] <sulle> i have never had a problem with it
[07:47] <sulle> i love automatix =O
[07:47] <d4rkmonkey> sulle, its evil. the devil ;)
[07:47] <sulle> =(
[07:47] <ExxonE> Automatix?
[07:47] <sulle> !automatix2
[07:47] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:47] <albert`> can someone help me with working with extended partitions?
[07:47] <d4rkmonkey> ExxonE, don't use Automatix It sucks.
[07:48] <albert`> I have an extended partition on the right, it has 2 partitions altogether. I have a piece of unallocated space between that extended partition, and a primary partitin.
[07:48] <buntunub> automatix works like a champ for me lol never heard of it breaking anyones system
[07:48] <ExxonE> d4rkmonkey: never used it, what is that and a even etter question, where do I find DCCP? :)
[07:48] <albert`> How can I get the unallocated space to be part of the extended partitino?
[07:48] <buntunub> sounds like FUD
[07:48] <d4rkmonkey> ExxonE, lol no idea, but automatix is bad for your system
[07:49] <azi> d4rkmonkey: hm.. do I really have to download the alternate cd?
[07:49] <d4rkmonkey> azi, yeah..
[07:49] <sulle> me and some friends have been using automatix for ages and i never heard annyone had a problem with it.
[07:49] <ExxonE> d4rkmonkey: I dont like bad for my system, there was a reason I got Linux.. ;) Windows is bad for your system. ;)
[07:49] <d4rkmonkey> lol ExxonE
[07:49] <albert`> can anybody help me with my partition situation?
[07:49] <sulle> Windowns is bad for ur helth
[07:49] <d4rkmonkey> azi, its not that hard to use or anything though
[07:50] <t2_> hello
[07:50] <sulle> hi
[07:50] <hardlsr> jeje
[07:50] <d4rkmonkey> hi t2_
[07:50] <ExxonE> d4rkmonkey: my english sucks.... I'm from sweden
[07:50] <hardlsr> conectado con gaim
[07:50] <jf> Vlommen.
[07:50] <sulle> jeg er fra norge =)
[07:50] <azi> d4rkmonkey: what were you talking about gutsy? if i download gutsy i'll autmoatically get gpu support?
[07:50] <albert`> vi sitter khannen venta!
[07:50] <jf> Vlkommen tillomed.
[07:50] <d4rkmonkey> ExxonE, no problem theres probably a swedish channel somewhere
[07:50] <t2_> so is my :)
[07:50] <d4rkmonkey> azi no, not yet
[07:50] <ExxonE> tack grabbar... :P
[07:50] <albert`> spiela lite dota!
[07:50] <albert`> lol
[07:50] <dem0n> Can some one help me fix apt-get function when i use apt-get install filename or apt-get upgrade i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31695/ if you can help me fix please pm me
[07:50] <d4rkmonkey> azi, I've been trying the early releases and they haven't had full support yet
[07:51] <ExxonE> d4rkmokey: Yeah there is, but I cant get answers there.. ;)
[07:51] <azi> d4rkmonkey: the problem is i'll have to download the whole 600mb iso which takes about ~2 hours
[07:51] <albert`> Does anybody know how to work with extended partitions and unallocated space?
[07:51] <learningmode> i'm new to ubuntu/linux, and am hoping someone can tell me how to enable the built-in vnc server via a remote ssh connection so that i can use vnc to see my desktop? i find helpfiles, but most of them are console centric, or vnc over ssh centric.  vncserver commands don't work (not found), but i'm sure i've logged into this machine before via vnc.
[07:51] <sulle> I have made a samba server and i need a login script so that windows clients can login and see their "home directories and other dirs". annyone that can give me a url to a howto or maybe help me out?. realy need help. =)
[07:51] <Gizmo_the_Great> xtknight, sorry to bother you. Could you look at this and tell me if you think it looks correct? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31697/
[07:51] <HorizonXP> can someone help me with Tilda?
[07:51] <xnix> learningmode: you can install x11vnc
[07:51] <jf> Help me with this grub2-crap. I messed it up. Can I boot the CD and fix it?
[07:51] <d4rkmonkey> azi, I haven't really tried the tribe 3 CD yet though.. but it doesn't matter you would need to download a new CD anyways
[07:51] <ExxonE>  Hi! I've got an D-link dwl-g122 H/W: C1, and have some problem with it. It doesn't seem to be supported by ubuntu from starters, so I followed a guide to "install" support in a "ra73"-driver, this didn't work either and someone told me to install GTKwifi, I did and started it, and nothing happens, BUT, and this is what bothers me, when I exit GTKwifi all of a sudden the d-link starts. I dont want it this way, I want it to work on start. Is th
[07:51] <ExxonE>  ere anyone who has a suggestion?
[07:51] <xnix> learningmode: it will attach to an already open X server
[07:51] <buntunub> get used to working with the terminal in linx
[07:51] <jf> I think I've read about it somewhere.
[07:52] <osxdude|lap> !langs
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about langs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <learningmode> xnix:  is that the server normally installed by ubuntu?
[07:52] <ExxonE> !d-link
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about d-link - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <xtknight> Gizmo_the_Great, as far as i know that looks fine
[07:52] <xnix> learningmode: no but you can sudo apt-get install x11vnc
[07:52] <xnix> learningmode: from ssh
[07:52] <Gizmo_the_Great> xtknight, cheers. thanks for your help today
[07:52] <xtknight> Gizmo_the_Great, vfat one looks a little short, but i think thats normal
[07:52] <Catsceo> !network cards
[07:52] <xtknight> Gizmo_the_Great, vfat only uses a short serial number
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about network cards - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <buntunub> or just use ssh -X
[07:52] <learningmode> xnix:  that better than activating the built-in?
[07:53] <dem0n> learningmode check your pm
[07:53] <Catsceo> !wireless PCI cards
[07:53] <CompleteNoob> is there anyone online that can pvt me, and with great patience explain to me how to get started in development/coding?
[07:53] <albert`> can somebody please help me with my problem. I'm trying to create a partition with some unallocated space using Ubuntu's Gparted, and get it to be part of an extended partition. But it's only letting me create a primary partitin
[07:53] <jf> Can I remove grub somehow? First I have FreeBSD bootloader when I start up and when I press F2 for linux i get the grub console.
[07:53] <xnix> learningmode: well the built in one is called vino, but im not sure how you would activate it from the command line through ssh
[07:53] <dem0n> Learningmode: check your private message
[07:54] <learningmode> thanks dem0n, turning it on.
[07:54] <jowi> jf: you don't remove a bootloader that is installed on MBR. you let another bootloader overwrite it.
[07:54] <Louiegn> Does anyone know about wubi
[07:54] <xnix> learningmode: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=266981
[07:54] <buntunub> !wubi
[07:54] <ubotu> wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[07:54] <xnix> thath might be similar to what dem0n sent you learningmode, but that might help
[07:54] <t2_> http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi What'Z the link for !!! ?
[07:54] <jf> jowi: Well, I have FreeBSD bootloader! And when I boot linux I then get grub.
[07:54] <bluefox83> albert`, one way would be to simply mount the other partition to the primary one...it'd be used just like the primary but whatever you put in it wouldn't eat up the primary and vise versa
[07:54] <Louiegn> i have a question about wubi
[07:54] <ExxonE> is there not one single poor bastard that has an D-link wifi-usb who recognises my problem? =) *panic*
[07:54] <azi> now that i'm thinkig of it.. it'll be nice if ubuntu could check the inernet for updates before running the installer
[07:54] <jowi> jf: tell the BSD bootloader to install itself on MBR
[07:55] <jf> It has.
[07:55] <dem0n> nah i was actuly gonna explain it step by step but he aint pming me back so idk
[07:55] <jf> It's in the MBR.
[07:55] <learningmode> awesonme guys, thanks.  'll work through those suggestions.
[07:55] <jf> But grub is messing with me.
[07:55] <jf> :)
[07:55] <Louiegn> Can anyone answer a question about wubi?
[07:55] <jowi> jf: if the first thing you see when you boot is grub, then grub is installed on MBR.
[07:55] <albert`> bluefox83: I just want to create another logical partition, but for some reason it won't let me.
[07:55] <jf> jowi: I told you FreeBSD bootloader is first.
[07:55] <Louiegn> :)
[07:55] <dem0n> learningmode if you want me to explain how then pm me.
[07:56] <myzrael> hey everyone
[07:56] <sulle> hi myzrael
[07:56] <exyan> to install the nvidia driver I just apt-get install nvidia-glx ?
[07:56] <jowi> jf: so first you see bsd bootloader. then you select linux and up pops grub?
[07:56] <myzrael> having some problems compiling winex on ubuntu 64 here....
[07:56] <myzrael> quite hard
[07:56] <sulle> so i guess no one here knows annything about login scripts ?
[07:56] <t2_> ())-()))))))))>------ Later
[07:56] <jf> jowi: Exactly.
[07:56] <bluefox83> albert`, will it let you move the unused partition over?
[07:56] <meridian> has any1 else had a dvd rom stop working after trying to install ubuntu?
[07:56] <meridian> or is it a coincidence
[07:56] <Louiegn> On Wubi it installs fine but at the installer it gets a red scren
[07:57] <myzrael> meridian, can\t be ubuntu
[07:57] <dem0n> exyan:are you getting black out when you start up?
[07:57] <Louiegn> can u help me?
[07:57] <albert`> this is the order of my partitions: /sda5 (extended), /sda 6 (logical), unallocated, /sda2 primary, unallocated, fat32
[07:57] <exyan> dem0n, no, but I'm not staying with vesa lol ;p
[07:57] <bluefox83> meridian, actually yeah, my girlfreind's stopped working...but i swapped out multiple drives i knew worked and none would work..so i figure it's the controller on the motherboard
[07:58] <doom_ster> i have 1 question. is there a way to  get my /home folder to another partition, on an already installed Feisty system, without the need of reinstallation?
[07:58] <dem0n> ahh see i have nvida and when i installed ubuntu my xorg-server got messed up and when i startx it would just black out
[07:58] <albert`> bluefox83: i want to use the 90gb of unallocated in the middle as a logical, so it will be part of the extended on the left, and won't coun towards the limit of 4 primary partitinos
[07:58] <jowi> jf: check the bsdbootloader setup. the entry for linux might point to a boot partition instead of a list of bootoptions (kernel and such) for that partition. I would suggest asking in a bsd channel on how to set up the bootloader to boot a linux partition.
[07:58] <meridian> bluefox83, that not what i wanted to hear... lol
[07:58] <dem0n> Learningmode you still here?
[07:58] <master_> helo?
[07:58] <albert`> bluefox83: this is the order of my partitions: /sda5 (extended), /sda 6 (logical), unallocated, /sda2 primary, unallocated, fat32
[07:58] <sulle> ExxonE: dcgui
[07:58] <sulle> ExxonE: sudo apt-get install dcgui =)
[07:59] <jf> jowi: I could probably do that but I had the same problem before installing the FreeBSD bootloader.
[07:59] <myzrael> hey , I have a question. Is it possible to kill a windows pc by installing ubuntu?
[07:59] <myzrael> Just wondering if something could go wrong with the bootloaders or anyone has experienced something like that.
[07:59] <exyan> dem0n, I even loaded the nvidia driver @ kde system settings ^^ kinda works ;P
[07:59] <jf> jowi: Can I reinstall grub from live cd?
[07:59] <jowi> jf: of course
[07:59] <Surviver> jf, yes
[07:59] <howlingmadhowie> meridian: do you have a desktop pc and did you install ubuntu with the case open?
[07:59] <jowi> !grub | jf
[07:59] <ubotu> jf: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:59] <ExxonE> sulle: mny tnx!
[07:59] <meridian> bluefox83, the light come on, but nothing is home
[07:59] <meridian> lol
[07:59] <sulle> myzrael: kill a windows pc? what do u mean?
[07:59] <sulle> ExxonE: no problem :P
[07:59] <meridian> howlingmadhowie, using laptop
[08:00] <myzrael> sulle : Kill the bootloader by accident making the windows pc unable to boot to XP.
[08:00] <howlingmadhowie> meridian: okay. then it's unlikely the drive overheated
[08:00] <dem0n> well i can help you to get the realdrivers mine works but idk wtf went wrong here my apt got messed up and random time my sound dont work
[08:00] <myzrael> Gonna install it on my dads work-laptop so that's why I ask.
[08:00] <jf> Ah, I'll check that.
[08:00] <dem0n> LEANRINGMODE you here?
[08:00] <buntunub> myzreal no ubuntu should detect your windows partition and add it to your bootloader
[08:00] <albert`> bluefox83: Are you still there?
[08:00] <meridian> if overheated, should i leave to cool?
[08:01] <bluefox83> albert`, yeah...you got me stumped...
[08:01] <myzrael> buntunub : Alright, know that but was just wondering if it sometimes goes wrong.
[08:01] <myzrael> Can\t use that you know....
[08:01] <bluefox83> meridian, yeah hers lights up but nothing happens too
[08:01] <bobonthenet> My sound has suddenly stopped working could this be related to any of the recent updates?
[08:01] <myzrael> Went fine here though.
[08:01] <albert`> bluefox83: Sorry should I explain more clearer?
[08:01] <howlingmadhowie> meridian: if it's overheated then it's broken. but i doubt that happened
[08:01] <mindslant> howdy.  When I try to start "Potato Guy" a.k.a. KTuberling I get a dialogue box "Fatal Error:  Unable to load pictures, aborting".  Any ideas?  (it's my daughters fave program)
[08:01] <dem0n> Can some one please help me resolve my apt-get error the error it gives me is l http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31695/
[08:01] <buntunub> it can go wrong but its very rare and easy to fix
[08:01] <meridian> howlingmadhowie, thing is, my system hangs when cd is in on boot, as if trying to read.
[08:01] <bluefox83> albert`, no i mean i haven't got a clue hwo to help you...i've never played with extended partitions D:
[08:01] <myzrael> alright that's buntunub
[08:01] <albert`> bluefox83: I have an extended partition, and in it is /sda 5, and /sda6. Theres an unallocated space right beside it, and I want to create a logicalpartition.
[08:01] <exyan> 2200fps @ glxgears is ok for a 7200 card?
[08:01] <myzrael> i'll try it tomorrow then :)
[08:02] <albert`> bluefox83: Ok thanks anyway
[08:02] <meridian> will shut down for a while then try latre
[08:02] <albert`> does anybody here have experience with extended partitions????
[08:02] <doom_ster> i have 1 question. is there a way to  get my /home folder to another partition, on an already installed Feisty system, without the need of reinstallation?
[08:02] <myzrael> if it fails it's just gonna be a fxmbr right?
[08:02] <howlingmadhowie> meridian: sounds like a hardware problem. i have something similar on my toshiba laptop where the ventilation is a bit clogged up
[08:02] <exyan> ghm, I doubt >.<
[08:02] <bluefox83> meridian, hey if you find a fix for that, please let me know
[08:02] <buntunub> you can do that but its easier just to add your windows to menu.lst
[08:03] <howlingmadhowie> albert`: then you need to change the size of the extended partition
[08:03] <albert`> howlingmadhowie: Ok let me try that now.
[08:03] <bobonthenet> My sound has suddenly stopped working I haven't the slightest idea what could have caused it except for maybe the most recent updates anyone have any ideas?
[08:03] <meridian> bluefox83, i fear the fix will be to swop hardware when back un USA at bestbuy (got the insurance)
[08:03] <albert`> howlingmadhowie: Haha I see, nice nice =D. it works!
[08:03] <jowi> albert`: you can either have 4 primary partition or 3 primary + 1 extended. if you already have an extended partition you should be able to add a partition *inside* it if you have enough free space in the extended partition.
[08:03] <dv__> hello
[08:04] <dv__> anyone using firefox with xinerama on?
[08:04] <dem0n> Can some one pleaws help me with apt-get
[08:04] <IndyGunFreak> bobonthenet: do you know what your sound device is?
[08:04] <mikefoo> Ok need some assistance, so there is a some hack toolkit in /tmp on one of our webservers. has the flood.tgz with stealth/smurf.  owned by user webadmin.  Im unser if machine was comprimised or upload all this via a php bug.
[08:04] <howlingmadhowie> albert`: for the main partition table on the drive, an extended partition is one partition
[08:04] <myzrael> bobonthenet, you running the latest version of ubuntu with gnome?
[08:04] <myzrael> check preferences - sound first then and check if the soundcard is current
[08:04] <myzrael> also use the test button
[08:04] <albert`> jowi: howlingmadhowie: My experience with Ubuntu has been a headache, but the interesting part is learning so much in the process
[08:04] <bluefox83> meridian, i swapped out the drives in my girlfriend's machine, and even put a new IDE cable in, and still no difference...every drive i've put in it does the same thing...the bios even says there's no cdrom there now for some reason
[08:05] <albert`> howlingmadhowie: Ya i understand now. Because I read somewhere that the Extended can have up to 24 partitions inside it so I was confused as to why I couldn't make another logical
[08:05] <jowi> albert`: the partitioning is a limitation on x86 hardware wether you run linux, windows or other OS
[08:05] <howlingmadhowie> jowi: to the best of my knowledge you can have 4 extended partitions. it just wouldn't make much sense :)
[08:05] <albert`> jowi: I see
[08:05] <albert`> howlingmadhowie: How many Operating systems can you have inside an extended partition
[08:05] <jowi> howlingmadhowie: yeah. i would love to have that haha
[08:05] <IndyGunFreak> bobonthenet: did you figure out your sound problem?
[08:06] <bobonthenet> I have everything set to autodetect and when I hit test it seems to just hang there.  The device is intel ICH5
[08:06] <howlingmadhowie> albert`: provided the boot loader can cope, as many as you want
[08:06] <n2diy> ! clvm
[08:06] <albert`> howlingmadhowie: So whats the point of creating a primary partition other than that it is required you must have one?
[08:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clvm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:06] <nick_> I need help editing the Places side pane
[08:06] <jowi> albert`: partitioning example for you: 1 primary, 2 primary, 3 extended (4 logical, 5 logical, 6 locical), 7 primary
[08:06] <IndyGunFreak> bobonthenet: there's a lot of intel sound devices, open a terminal, and type lspci, its going to output what your sound device is.. see exactly what its detected as.
[08:07] <dem0n> CAN SOME ONE HELP ME
[08:07] <d4rkmonkey> !caps dem0n
[08:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about caps dem0n - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:07] <d4rkmonkey> !caps | dem0n
[08:07] <ubotu> dem0n: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:07] <howlingmadhowie> albert`: good question. extended partitions can do a lot more. i think it's just tradition
[08:07] <albert`> jowi: Must they be in that order? My order is: 1) extended,logical,logcical 2) Primary 3) Primary
[08:07] <n2diy> dem0n: clvm is a Redhat package, why would you expect help here?
[08:07] <||drake||> alright, everytime i boot i get initramfs errors (job control and stuff, "cant find tty", whatever)... with my old kernel i just typed in modprobe piix, then "exit", but now i'm on kernel 2.6.22-8 (for wireless to work) and modprobe piix says "fatal: module piix doesnt exist"... i can still boot by typing "exit", but how do i make it just skip all of that?
[08:07] <larson9999> is there more to reading old mac floppies than installing hfsplus hfsutils?
[08:07] <howlingmadhowie> !ask | dem0n
[08:07] <ubotu> dem0n: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:07] <dem0n> Im on ubuntu
[08:07] <Pici> !enter
[08:07] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:07] <albert`> howlingmadhowie: I see. So would it be sae to do this: 1) Extended (logical - Vista) (logical - Ubuntu) (logical - XP)
[08:08] <howlingmadhowie> ||drake||: it sounds like support for the module wasn't compiled into the kernel
[08:08] <jowi> albert`: no, the order is up to you. but at least one should have the "bootable flag" set. GRUB can cope without a bootable flag but a windows partition need to have it set i believe.
[08:08] <dem0n> i use apt-get upgrade and it gives me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31695/
[08:09] <Pici> dem0n: Why do you have clvm installed?
[08:09] <bobonthenet> IndyGunFreak: ok whats that website I use to paste this stuff into?  postbin or pastebin something like that?
[08:09] <dem0n> pici idk
[08:09] <jowi> albert`: it used to be that windows needed to be on the first primary partition with a bootable flag, but that might have changed with vista (i actually don't know)
[08:09] <IndyGunFreak> !paste
[08:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:09] <nick_> I need help editing the Places side pane, please I have been battling this every since 7.04 came out
[08:09] <||drake||> howlingmadhowie: it would seem that i dont need support because (so far) my computer boots fine without it working... is there anyway i can make it just skip over the errors? by making it auto-type "exit" during the boot sequence, perhaps?
[08:09] <Pici> dem0n: Are you running a cluster?
[08:09] <IndyGunFreak> !paste | bobonthenet
[08:09] <ubotu> bobonthenet: please see above
[08:09] <dem0n> idk
[08:09] <nextse7en> Hi there, I could use some help, I'm trying to capture video off of my minidv cam with kine, but the camera connects via usb 2.0, rather than dv.  Anyone know how to infor kine of this?
[08:09] <albert`> jowi: Ok thanks. What's a bootable flag?
[08:09] <howlingmadhowie> albert`: you want to make an extended partition with three partitions inside it, each containing a different operating system? it should work, provided you can boot it. idon't know if grub can boot from an extended partition. i assume it can
[08:10] <Pici> dem0n: If you dont know, then remove those three packages.
[08:10] <dem0n> pici im new to linux
[08:10] <dem0n> how
[08:10] <Pici> dem0n: They dont come installed by default.
[08:10] <bullgard4> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-kernel-acpi writes in the lower right: "build 4600." What does 'build 4600' mean?
[08:10] <Pici> dem0n: apt-get remove clvm redhat-cluster-suite system-config-cluster
[08:10] <Pici> dem0n: put a sudo in front of that
[08:10] <jowi> albert`: run in a terminal "sudo parted" then type "print" and press enter and you will see. type "quit" and press enter to exit 'parted'.
[08:11] <albert`> howlingmadhowie: I don't know. How would I be able to find this information? What I did before my PC screwed up was have the GRUB Loader come up, where you can select Ubuntu or choose to go to the Vista bootloader. Then I would be at the Vista Bootloader and pick if I want Vista or XP. The vista was contained inside an extended partitin
[08:11] <howlingmadhowie> ||drake||: can't find tty is a pretty serious error. i'd have to find out more about your system. nothing springs to mind at the moment
[08:11] <crypto-x> hi, where is the italian channel of ubuntu?
[08:11] <jowi> !partitioning | albert`
[08:11] <ubotu> albert`: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:11] <jowi> hmmm, i was hoping for more info there ubotu...
[08:11] <n2diy> ! it | crypto
[08:11] <ubotu> crypto: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:11] <nextse7en> Does anyone know how to capture video off of usb rather than dv in ubuntu?
[08:11] <bobonthenet> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31700/
[08:12] <Pici> bullgard4: I assume thats the build number of Launchpad
[08:12] <nicholaspaul> Got a question - you know that startup screen with a progress bar (not the Splash Screen) - how do i change that?
[08:12] <nextse7en> my cam has both interfaces, but I don't have a firewire port, so am stuck capturing off of usb,
[08:12] <sauvin> nextse7en, how are you ding it with dv?
[08:12] <||drake||> howlingmadhowie: it cant be that serious if it boots fine without me dealing with it... the error isnt literally "cant find tty"... lemme get you the official readout
[08:12] <jowi> brb
[08:12] <Pici> bullgard4: Its on every lp page.
[08:12] <IndyGunFreak> bobonthenet: you're using feisty, correct?
[08:12] <dem0n> pici check this
[08:12] <albert`> !partitioning | albert`
[08:12] <howlingmadhowie> albert`: grub was probably on a linux partition. the small mbr partition at the start of the harddrive contains little more than a pointer to the main grub software nowadays. i'd have a look at http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/ and the wiki linked to on that page
[08:12] <bobonthenet> indygunfreak: yes
[08:13] <albert`> jowi: Yes I use Gparted for all my partiotining
[08:13] <sdnnvs> !ubuntu
[08:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[08:13] <howlingmadhowie> ||drake||: just paste /var/log/messages or dmesg in pastebin
[08:13] <dem0n> pici: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31701/
[08:13] <nextse7en> I'm not doing it with dv, sauvin, i don't have a firewire port,  windows progs will allow me to capture form cam with usb... I can't find a similar program in linux.
[08:13] <bobonthenet> indygunfreak: my sound has always worked fine and just stopped working today when I turned my computer on.
[08:13] <Hugolp> anyone knows how to make nfs use a fixed port and not random ones?
[08:13] <Pici> dem0n: looking
[08:13] <mikefoo> What does rwt mean on permissions?  the 't' in particular..
[08:13] <albert`> howlingmadhowie: Thanks. When you helped me earier this morning, what happened was I deleted the Ubuntu ext3 partition, now I canot boot to any operating system
[08:13] <IndyGunFreak> bobonthenet: hmm, don't know, i'm googling..
[08:13] <bullgard4> Pici: What do you mean with 'build number'?
[08:13] <nicholaspaul> Is there another startup editor other than GNOME Splash Screen Editor?
[08:14] <bobonthenet> indygunfreak: it caught me off guard I thought it was my speakers at first but they seem to be fine.
[08:14] <howlingmadhowie> albert`: has your search for a bootloader been unsuccessful? :(
[08:14] <Pici> dem0n: Try doing an update and upgrade now
[08:14] <albert`> howlingmadhowie: No lol.
[08:15] <albert`> howlingmadhowie: Instead I shifted my partitions, and am going to install Ubuntu on my internal instead of external, because you said it would restore the GRUB right?
[08:15] <albert`> howlingmadhowie: I think that would be the best step because I couldn't find any on google, and am clueless about bootloaders other than the fact that they cause headaches lol
[08:15] <||drake||> howlingmadhowie: its just the standard /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[08:15] <Pici> bullgard4: Its 4600th time that they built (compiled) the Launchpad source.  Like Ubuntu, Launchpad is an ongoing project of Canonical's
[08:15] <howlingmadhowie> albert`: during the installation, the part of grub which resides in the mbr is written, yes
[08:16] <dem0n> pici: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31702/
[08:16] <albert`> howlingmadhowie: Right now when I boot, GRUB gives me an error and I'm stuck here. So hopefully when I install Ubuntu, it will be restored
[08:16] <Pici> dem0n: try apt-get install -f
[08:16] <bullgard4> Pici: Ah! Thank you very much for explaining.
[08:16] <dem0n> pici same error
[08:17] <Pici> dem0n: I'm sorry, try asking around some more.
[08:17] <dem0n> TT
[08:17] <Pici> dem0n: perhaps someone else has an idea
[08:17] <craigbass1976> I have a directory on my desktop that's shared out (nfs) so I can grab it with my laptp when I'm home.  WHen I'm away though, I can't access it of course.  Is rsync the solution?  I want to have a copy of the directory on my laptop, and if I make changes to file on the road I want to just copy the newer files.
[08:17] <dem0n> all it is  clvm
[08:17] <dem0n> now
[08:17] <kkathman> is there a way to mass set the icon size on the destop to a particular size, such as 50 or 32 ?
[08:17] <craigbass1976> Copy the newer files back to the desktop box I mean
[08:17] <menkio> anyone happen to know if a sun netra t1 would be considered "UltraSparc "
[08:17] <menkio> trying to put ubuntu on it
[08:18] <IndyGunFreak> bobonthenet: hmm, can't really find anything.
[08:18] <nicholaspaul> kkathman you can try theme , under System / Prefs
[08:18] <IndyGunFreak> doesnt seem anyones had much trouble with that sound device.
[08:18] <albert`> howlingmadhowie: Shoot. I just re-read the triple boot tutorial and it says I must install Vista first.... so about the bootloader, do you know where I can find one?
[08:18] <howlingmadhowie> ||drake||: i'm reading through this atm: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=474493
[08:18] <HomeRoey> hi
[08:18] <dem0n> can some one help me with this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31702/
[08:18] <HomeRoey> I've just installed Kubuntu, and my mouse wheel now only responds if I am directly hovering over the scrollbar widget.  What's up with this??
[08:18] <howlingmadhowie> albert`: why don't you just use the vista disk?
[08:18] <HomeRoey> Also, my digital-out channel doesn't seem to output anything amymore.
[08:19] <albert`> howlingmadhowie: My vista disk doesn't boot for some odd reason
[08:19] <HomeRoey> I have my stereo hooked up to the digital-out of my on-board via82cxxxx sound controller.  I've set (through alsamixer) for the IEC* channels to output to PCM OUT, yet when I try playing through Amarok and mpg123, I hear nothing (even though they're playing happily).  What am I doing wrong here?
[08:19] <albert`> howlingmadhowie: Whenever I direct the boot device to my DVD, it just goes to that GRUB error message - error 17
[08:19] <craigbass1976> albert`, it ight not see the disk if you let ubuntu write to the MBR
[08:19] <bobonthenet> indygunfreak: well thanks for trying I'll keep messing around and hopefully be able to find something.  I'll probably be so obvious once I figure it out.
[08:19] <andyho623> why would someone's blacklist file be showing up blank??
[08:20] <IndyGunFreak> bobonthenet: i hope so.. gl
[08:20] <albert`> craigbass1976: Well right now, I have no Ubuntu, and XP installed. The thing is when I boot up, I encounter the GRUB bootloader, which gives me an error message
[08:20] <modulus> hey, how difficult would it be to set up encryption for ubuntu?
[08:20] <IndyGunFreak> andyho623: either they opened the wrong file, or they have nothing blacklisted
[08:20] <craigbass1976> albert`, yeah, I saw that right after I sent my message.
[08:21] <andyho623> IndyGunFreak: Is there a way for them to "re-write" it back to default?
[08:21] <albert`> craigbass1976: Sorry, I probably missed your message from earlier
[08:21] <dem0n> can some one help me pretty please
[08:21] <LuckyLarry> hi all :)
[08:21] <craigbass1976> albert`, no problem  I think we were typing at the same time
[08:21] <IndyGunFreak> andyho623: sorry, i don't mess with blacklisting.. never have anyways, ther emight be, i don't know.
[08:21] <OldPin1> How do I tell NickServ that I am OldPInk and not OldPin1? I have my OldPink username and password setup in Pidgin?
[08:21] <howlingmadhowie> albert`: that is odd. if you don't want anything on the disk, i'd just wipe it completely and start again.
[08:21] <modulus> also i have a gnupg card, is there a simple way to boot with it instead of login / passwd?
[08:21] <albert`> howlingmadhowie: I wish I could do that but I can't xD
[08:21] <IndyGunFreak> OldPin1: use a real irc client?
[08:22] <albert`> howlingmadhowie: The frustrating part is that Ubuntu can't write to NTFS, so I don't know how to backup my stuff
[08:22] <OldPin1> IndyGunFreak, hahaha aren't you original?
[08:22] <dem0n> type /nick oldpink
[08:22] <albert`> craigbass1976: what do you suggest I do?
[08:22] <osxdude|lap> Ubuntu does not seem to like my network with DHCP. How can I make Ubuntu "make love" with my router?
[08:22] <exyan> where is the xorg config file located?
[08:22] <LuckyLarry> I have wireless on my Intel 3945 card working fine in the generic Feisty version, but not in Server edition, apparently i need the linux-restricted-modules... server editions which aren't available in the normal repo's - any ideas?
[08:22] <andyho623> IndyGunFreak: yeah I understand.. they just have the same vid card as me and I had to blacklist my onboard in order to get it to work, but their blacklist file is showing up blank for some reason..
[08:22] <OldPin1> dem0n, nothing happens
[08:22] <HomeRoey> (anyone here?)
[08:22] <HomeRoey> I've just installed Kubuntu, and my mouse wheel now only responds if I am directly hovering over the scrollbar widget.  What's up with this??
[08:22] <osxdude|lap> exyan: /etc/X11/
[08:22] <rdesh> hi
[08:23] <skinnypuppy1334> Any laptop gurus here my gateway won't power up on humid days until warm drying over a CRT? What could this be?
[08:23] <rdesh> has anyone gotten cleartype packages for feisty amd64? i can't get the moshen repository to work...
[08:23] <craigbass1976> albert`, I wonder if you're not really booting from the dvd for some reason.  WHat happens if you boot from a ubuntu cd?
[08:23] <IndyGunFreak> andyho623: if i had to guess, they typed the wrong path/file name in the terminal, which means it will basically open a blank file.
[08:23] <howlingmadhowie> ||drake||: the error you mention seems to be quite generic and points at some problem during booting. if you pasted dmesg on pastebin, i might be able to tell you more. as it is, have you tried entering ctrl+C to move on quickly during booting.
[08:23] <dem0n> can some one help me out here with apt-get
[08:23] <IndyGunFreak> double check what they put in the terminal
[08:23] <albert`> craigbass1976: It works
[08:23] <osxdude|lap> HomeRoey: go to #kubuntu
[08:23] <Hali_304> hi!
[08:23] <craigbass1976> albert`, ahh, then it's vista's fault.  I know... hard to believe... windows messing up?  Eghads...
[08:23] <albert`> craigbass1976: I didn't neecessarily purchase my Vista disk... however, it should be able to boot
[08:24] <||drake||> howlingmadhowie: nah, i havent tried ctrl+C
[08:24] <albert`> craigbass1976: haha probably =(
[08:24] <howlingmadhowie> albert`: okay. looks like i need more information. do you have an external drive you can save stuff on? it sounds like you could boot from the livecd, mount the partitions you want to mount and then copy stuff you want to save onto an external drive
[08:24] <CaptainFrisbee> dem0n, Is this the same error you get with apt? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lvm2/+bug/86087
[08:24] <dem0n> maby ^^
[08:24] <albert`> howlingmadhowie: yes i got an external
[08:24] <||drake||> howlingmadhowie: i'll pastebin it in like 2 secs
[08:24] <exyan> and the init scripts located @ ?
[08:24] <craigbass1976> albert`, Got another drive kicking around?  Have you booted to this vista disk on something else?
[08:24] <howlingmadhowie> ||drake||: if there's a process just waiting for something and it's going to be unsuccessful anyway, ctrl+C may well kill it
[08:24] <exyan> I so love the init stuff in gentoo ;/
[08:24] <skinnypuppy1334> Gateway Laptop won't power up on humid days?
[08:24] <albert`> craigbass1976: I've never been able to boot vista disks
[08:24] <craigbass1976> albert`, by drive, I mean hard drive.
[08:24] <Hali_304> I've re-partitioned my hard drive, which involved switching of the swap partition. now Ubuntu does not hibernate. I mean I can press the hibernate button, but on boot, it does not resume, but continues with standard bootup. (I'ved edited /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume for the new UUID). How can I debug this? Any ideas welcome. thank you.
[08:25] <craigbass1976> albert`, were they all, borrowed?
[08:25] <albert`> craigbass1976: downloaded xD
[08:25] <howlingmadhowie> Hali_304: i forget. is hibernate suspend to disk or suspend to ram?
[08:25] <ExxonE>  Hi! I've got an D-link dwl-g122 H/W: C1, and have some problem with it. It doesn't seem to be supported by ubuntu from starters, so I followed a guide to "install" support in a "ra73"-driver, this didn't work either and someone told me to install GTKwifi, I did and started it, and nothing happens, BUT, and this is what bothers me, when I exit GTKwifi all of a sudden the d-link starts. I dont want it this way, I want it to work on start. Is th
[08:25] <ExxonE>  ere anyone who has a suggestion?
[08:25] <n2diy> dem0n: http://linux.gotfoo.org/ubuntu-clvm-uninstall-issue-fix/
[08:25] <modulus> hibernate is suspend to disk.
[08:25] <ConstyXIV> howlingmadhowie: disk
[08:25] <albert`> craigbass1976: although they should be bootable since I saw a boot folder on the CD. but it just doesn't boot for me.
[08:26] <howlingmadhowie> Hali_304: you need a swap partition to hibernate. suspend to disk in linux works (roughly) by copying an image of ram to the swap partition
[08:26] <Hali_304> howlingmadhowie: this is a desktop PC, so I think it hibernates to disk.
[08:26] <osxdude|lap> HOLA
[08:26] <||drake||> howlingmadhowie: http://pastebin.com/m3d47d5aa
[08:26] <modulus> on windows it's roughly the same, thus the huge hiberfil.sys
[08:26] <osxdude|lap> sorry...my dhcp server is not connecting...
[08:26] <craigbass1976> albert`, well, I don't know how much anyone in here should be helping you with such a disc, but if you can't boot it on anything, I wonder if the disc is bad, or the dvd drive is bad, or windows tries to boot and sees something funny (like a linux partition) and refuses to continue
[08:26] <||drake||> howlingmadhowie: it got cut off at the top... thats how it is in the terminal... i guess its too long or something
[08:27] <TheNo1Yeti> So question, if I originally had just installed ubuntu and have since discovered that KDE rocks so much more, is it safe to uninstall gnome?
[08:27] <albert`> craigbass1976: It's ok, but my concern is not the disk. My concern is how to fix my PC with the GRUB loader giving me an error message every time I boot
[08:27] <Hali_304> howlingmadhowie: another thing that makes me think that it hibernates to disk is that once it told me an error that it is unable to hibernate, because too much swap is used (so there is no space left to save the real memory.) basically this made me repartition the drive, to create a bigger swap drive
[08:27] <craigbass1976> osxdude|lap, what do you mean?  You have a box serving out addresses and it doesn't work, or the client won't get an address?
[08:27] <albert`> craigbass1976: Someone had recommended me to get a bootloader on a floppy, but I don't know where to get one. Formating would be a good idea, but I can't write to NTFS with Live Ubuntu
[08:27] <modulus> hey, any ideas on how to do disk encryption and how to use a gnupg card as a boot token?
[08:27] <craigbass1976> albert`, oh, well you'd have to google for similar errors, then fix it by booting to the ubuntu disc
[08:27] <osxdude|lap> craigbass1976: the client will not get an address.
[08:27] <dem0n> NICE!!! ty n2diy
[08:28] <albert`> craigbass1976: Lol i tried
[08:28] <craigbass1976> osxdude|lap, will any clients get an address from this server?
[08:28] <dem0n> some dude told me to check my sys log and it had nothing to do with it
[08:28] <n2diy> dem0n: GL
[08:28] <craigbass1976> albert`, paste your grub.conf (or menu.lst-whichever it's called) on rafb or something
[08:28] <osxdude|lap> craigbass1976: only the Windows i386 computers get addresses
[08:29] <craigbass1976> osxdude|lap, if you set the ip yourself, can you get on the network?
[08:29] <b4l74z4r> can linux handle .dmg files?
[08:29] <andyho623> has anyone had a problem with firefox and thunderbird after installing the kubuntu desktop? that's what I'm dealing with now.. I keep getting a  Segmentation fault (core dumped) error
[08:29] <mishana> hi I am pretty new to ubuntu and linux in general...I am trying to download a driver for HP DeskJet D1420 (shared from a XP PC) and get it working on ubuntu. Any help or at least a hint would be appreciated.
[08:29] <Hali_304> howlingmadhowie: two things that are strange for me now: on bootup, the swap is not actived, I need to activate it manually using swapon. Another thing is that there are many uuids in grub config, maybe I need to modify those too
[08:29] <craigbass1976> andyho623, i don't have the kubuntu problem, but firefox on edgy seems to rather suck
[08:29] <osxdude|lap> craigbass1976: yes.
[08:30] <HEP85> craigbass1976: what do you mean? is it slow?
[08:30] <kitche> !hplip | mishana this hsould support it
[08:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hplip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:30] <kitche> mishana: hang on :(
[08:31] <kitche> !printing | mishana
[08:31] <ubotu> mishana: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[08:31] <kitche> mishana: usually hp printers work with their own driver in linux and most are supported by it
[08:31] <modulus> no hints on how to set up disk encryption or use a gnupg card as an auth token for login?
[08:31] <mishana> kitche & ubotu : I appreciate it
[08:31] <buzzbuzz> hi - i installed PhpMyAdmin on feisty fawn, but when i try to access it at http://localhost/phpmyadmin - it tells me Access denied for user 'www-data'@'localhost' (using password: YES) ( i login with the correct root password )
[08:32] <nicholaspaul> What do you call that screen that comes up first, with the progress bar (before the login screen) ?
[08:32] <mishana> so if I install driver from the cd it should work?
[08:32] <kitche> mishana: my mind is just blank for the hp tool but one of those links should have the name for it :)
[08:32] <n2diy> modulus: install Gnomepgp, don't know about the card.
[08:32] <nicholaspaul> And how do I edit ti?
[08:32] <howlingmadhowie> Hali_304: it sounds like /etc/fstab may also need editing
[08:32] <Justi1> what does the linux-swap partition do?
[08:32] <modulus> n2diy: does gnoepgp do partition encryption?
[08:32] <modulus> Justi1: hold memory when the ram is full.
[08:33] <n2diy> modulus: I don't know, only use it occasionally for email.
[08:33] <Hali_304> howlingmadhowie: I did that, but I'll recheck. basically what I did was used vol_id to read the new uuids and pasted those in place of the original ones.
[08:33] <howlingmadhowie> ||drake||: i'd like to see the top of it. can you -> dmesg > my_dmesg.txt
[08:33] <modulus> n2diy: hmm i see, thanks.
[08:33] <buzzbuzz> <- really need help
[08:33] <teenbeat2007_lap> does anyone knows if there is weddesign software for linux same like dreamwaever
[08:33] <exyan> so where are ubuntu init scripts?
[08:33] <buzzbuzz> teenbeat2007_lap: quanta plus maybe
[08:33] <alesan_> how can I build my own version of the ubuntu livecd?
[08:33] <exyan> teenbeat2007_lap I guess u'll need wine ^^
[08:33] <kitche> mishana: yeah it's hplip I had it right
[08:33] <Andy80> hi
[08:34] <nicholaspaul> teenbeat2007_lap: yes - nvu
[08:34] <Justi1> modulus: should the partition be next to the ubuntu partition, or can it be at the other end of the hard drive?
[08:34] <mishana> thanks kitche
[08:34] <teenbeat2007_lap> i tryed wine dreamweaver wont start not even with crossover
[08:34] <||drake||> howlingmadhowie: where does that save to?
[08:34] <nicholaspaul> teenbeat2007_lap: Nvu will do the trick.
[08:34] <||drake||> howling: nvm
[08:34] <modulus> Justi1: it can be anywhere, but your system has to know where it is.
[08:34] <howlingmadhowie> ||drake||: that will save to a file called my_dmesg.txt
[08:34] <teenbeat2007_lap> ok ill have a look at it
[08:34] <nicholaspaul> ok
[08:34] <Andy80> is there someone that can help me with tftpd-hpa? I've installed it and put files in /var/lib/tftpdboot but I don't know how to start the service...
[08:34] <n2diy> alesan_: mondorescue might help you, you can build your own boot disks with it.
[08:34] <Justi1> modulus: how do i tell the system where it is?
[08:35] <nicholaspaul> I'm trying to edit startup screens - Anyone know how to change the initial screen?
[08:35] <||drake||> howlingmadhowie: i know... i clicked the wrong link, sry
[08:35] <alesan_> n2diy, what do you mean boot disks?
[08:35] <modulus> Justi1: that is a good question. i have never done that, i only know how to tell the system on the install
[08:35] <||drake||> howlingmadhowie: here ya go: http://pastebin.com/m4f3976ad
[08:35] <howlingmadhowie> albert`: there's something strange going on if the vista disk refuses to boot. i wonder what it is? theoretically, it has no business looking at the hard drive. are you sure you're booting from the disk?
[08:35] <alesan_> n2diy, I mean a ubuntu livecd with custom programs
[08:35] <IndyGunFreak> teenbeat2007_lap: are you sure crossover doesn't run dreamweaver?
[08:35] <n2diy> alesan_: Umm, a disk that boots your computer!
[08:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !remaster
[08:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remaster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:36] <mishana> thx again guys....
[08:36] <andyho623> hey does anyone else have multiple firefox files?? Ihave one called mozilla-firefox and another called mozilla-firefox.ubuntu and I'm wondering if that's not causing my issues
[08:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !reconstructor
[08:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reconstructor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:36] <teenbeat2007_lap> yes im sure i tryed dreamweaver MX it wont run
[08:36] <CaptainFrisbee> nicholaspaul, you can install the package "startupmanager"
[08:36] <IndyGunFreak> teenbeat2007_lap: hmm, wierd.
[08:36] <teenbeat2007_lap> at least not on this laptop
[08:36] <nicholaspaul> CaptainFrisbee: ok fanks!
[08:37] <isaac_> join #ubuntu-utah
[08:37] <isaac_> ..
[08:37] <JonathanD> I'm not in utah.
[08:37] <isaac_> oops
[08:37] <isaac_> i forgot the /
[08:37] <vbanait> I AM REQUIRED  CREATE PDF FORMS USING ACROBAT DESIGNER LIKE SOFTWARE. ANY OPTION FOR ME ON UBUNTU
[08:37] <bruenig> !caps
[08:37] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:37] <Asche> ok, I have another question.  How do you delete a file that the system says you can't delete?
[08:37] <teenbeat2007_lap> but if i use illustrator cs2 wich is much heavyer it runs fine dreamweaver is less heavy and it doesnt run
[08:37] <isaac_> sudo
[08:37] <taime1> isnt tar.bz2 a valid tarball file?
[08:37] <vistakiller> open office
[08:38] <howlingmadhowie> ||drake||: strange. apart from some problems with power management (do you have a sony laptop? it seems to want to use some sony kernel modules) i can't see anything going wrong
[08:38] <Gecko> taime1: it is.
[08:38] <kitche> taime1: it is but if your using j it might not be .bz2
[08:38] <taime1> gtk-switch will not recognize it as such
[08:38] <bruenig> Asche, depends what you mean by system says you can't delete, if it just means you don't have permission, then you either need to do it as root, i.e. sudo rm file, or it may also say that if the partition is read only which means you need to make sure it is mounted as rw
[08:38] <vbanait> any option /alternative for acrobat designer or infopath
[08:38] <Gecko> taime1: use file <filename> to see its type
[08:38] <buzzbuzz> I installed PhpMyAdmin on feisty fawn, but when i try to access it at http://localhost/phpmyadmin - it tells me Access denied for user 'www-data'@'localhost' (using password: YES) ( i login with the correct root password )
[08:38] <||drake||> howlingmadhowie: yea, its a sony vgn-fz190 CTO
[08:38] <andyho623> yikes.. hopefully i can run dreamweaver and flash with wine.. otherwise that'll suck a little :/
[08:39] <howlingmadhowie> ||drake||: switching off acpi entirely is probably not an option then
[08:39] <modulus> flash is an abomination before Turing.
[08:39] <zmeiat_joro> there's a spelling error in the description of a package in the repository. netkit-inetd
[08:39] <zmeiat_joro> It's configuration file tells it what program needs to be run when an incoming connection is received.
[08:39] <howlingmadhowie> ||drake||: it's certainly an impressive laptop :) my toshiba's already 5 years old, so i'm envious :)
[08:39] <Asche> bruenig: How would I go about checking all that out?
[08:40] <bruenig> Asche, what file are you trying to remove, what partition is it on, what is the filesystem of that partition, how is it mounted, etc
[08:40] <cyberphaz> use vmware player if you @need@ windows apps
[08:40] <cyberphaz> i do it for my coding needs....
[08:40] <howlingmadhowie> albert`: if you have an external drive, you could use the ubuntu live cd to format that in a way that ubuntu can write to it, then mount the existing hard-drive partitions and copy the data you want to save onto the external drive
[08:40] <zmeiat_joro> it makes it look unprofessional and suspicious
[08:41] <howlingmadhowie> albert`: then you use the livecd to wipe the internal drive and hope that the vista install cd doesn't complain anymore
[08:41] <Asche> bruenig: I'm trying to clean wine completely off of my system so I can do a fresh install.
[08:41] <vbanait> acrobat designer , infopath alternatives
[08:41] <modulus> LaTeX.
[08:41] <howlingmadhowie> albert`: the weak point in my course of action being the "hoping that the windows install cd doesn't complain anymore"
[08:41] <n2diy> zmeiat_joro: you need to contact the package maintainer, nobody here can fix it.
[08:41] <bruenig> Asche, do a fresh install of what?
[08:41] <nicholaspaul> CaptainFrisbee: i searched Synaptic for 'startup' and found no manager
[08:41] <buzzbuzz> cyberphaz: how would I install my Vista DVD using vmware IN Ubuntu, i dont want the windows crap on my pc, but just in ubuntu to use Photoshop CS3 etc
[08:41] <andyho623> hmmm.. if I go to synaptic to uninstall my firefox it says it wants to uninstall my ubuntu-desktop as well??
[08:41] <Asche> bruenig: A fresh install of wine
[08:42] <vbanait> modulus: i know latex. but form designing is not possible
[08:42] <lumio> hi
[08:42] <bruenig> Asche, reinstalling wine won't do anything
[08:42] <modulus> that's false, use hyperref package.
[08:42] <bruenig> Asche, you take the files off the computer and then you put them back, it is no different
[08:42] <dem0n> how do i log into my ftp from terminal i removed annynomas users and now it dont ask for user name or pw
[08:42] <lumio> i got a problem with compiz under ubuntu
[08:42] <lumio>  gnome
[08:42] <lumio>  I can't start it anymore
[08:42] <lumio>  someone told me to remove the config-files
[08:42] <lumio>  but where are they?
[08:42] <albert`> howlingmadhowie: Yes windows sucks big time, but I will have to install it since I'm a gamer =(
[08:42] <kitche> andyho623: yes that is fine since ubuntu-desktop is jsut a meta package but you can always reinstall the meta-package after you uninstall it
[08:42] <||drake||> howlingmadhowie: i just did the following: mkdir target; sudo mount /dev/sda3 target; sudo chroot target; echo piix >> /etc/initramfs-tools/modules; update-initramfs -u
[08:42] <cyberphaz> !vmware
[08:42] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[08:42] <howlingmadhowie> vbanait: scribus is said to be a workable solution for desktop publishing. i've never used it myself...
[08:42] <kitche> dem0n: ftp <host> it should then ask for username and password interactively
[08:43] <Bill> hello
[08:43] <albert`> howlingmadhowie: I can't wipe my external however. I plan to install XP on my external, so I can boot up, then install Vista
[08:43] <vbanait> if i want to make forms to be filled online and data to be used to export to excel sheet
[08:43] <andyho623> kitche: not a big deal to me since I'm using kubuntu-desktop now! :)
[08:43] <mroc> this question might be a bit off-topic:  i'm trying to use the tftp command to flash dd-wrt to my router.  the "connect" command wants me to specify a port.  which port should i use?       (i asked in the dd-wrt channel, but there's not much traffic there, so i'm still waiting for an answer)
[08:43] <kitche> dem0n: but you might have to restart ftp daemon for it to not see the user account anymore
[08:43] <Bill> i want to do a duel boot with windows xp and ubuntu should i install xp frist or ubuntu ?
[08:43] <lumio> if someone can help me please call me by query
[08:43] <CaptainFrisbee> nicholaspaul, Its probably not in the repos: I found it here: http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=Startup+Manager
[08:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Bill: xp first
[08:43] <howlingmadhowie> ||drake||: that looks good at first glance.
[08:43] <cyberphaz> xp then ubuntu usually bill, that worked for me at least
[08:43] <n2diy> Bill, XP
[08:44] <bruenig> Bill, doesn't really matter, installing xp first will probably be slightly easier
[08:44] <wokwendell> Hi all - I can't get my Sony Clie to sync (or even be recognized) - any tips?  What should I be looking for in dmesg to see if it's recognized or not?
[08:44] <Bill> ok
[08:44] <vbanait> bill,: windowss first
[08:44] <Asche> bruenig: I see.  here's my problem  I've tried to update wine and it keeps coming back with "no_publkey 58403026387EE263
[08:44] <Bill> what if i already did ubnutu
[08:44] <bruenig> Asche, did you use automatix?
[08:44] <nicholaspaul> CaptainFrisbee: ahh. Thanks again :)
[08:44] <Apollodoros> czesc zulusi
[08:44] <Asche> bruenig: I don't have a clue as to what that is?
[08:44] <howlingmadhowie> albert`: so you have information you want to save on your internal and your external drives? (i feel like grumbling about how you could have planned this better...)
[08:45] <n2diy> Bill, go for it, but you'll have to patch grub afterwords
[08:45] <bruenig> you don' patch grub
[08:45] <vbanait> windows will have problem. grub is replaced
[08:45] <Apollodoros> hello zulu warriots
[08:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Bill: google ubuntu xp dual boot.. 95% will start with windows first..
[08:45] <modulus> hmm, i'll see if i find howtos on disk encryption and using the gpg card as login token under ubuntu. i'm a bit afraid of applying a general howto and something breaking.
[08:45] <Bill> iok
[08:45] <astro76> Bill, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:45] <Bill> how do i get rid of ubuntu?
[08:45] <lumio> can someone help me with compiz? where to remove the compiz-configuration?
[08:45] <vbanait> it is more difficult. patching grub is not a newbie cup of tea
[08:46] <vbanait> install windows first
[08:46] <KeeperOfTheSoul> how do I change the keyboard layout for the system?
[08:46] <bruenig> Bill, it is just a matter of reinstalling grub to the mbr, I wouldn't get rid of ubuntu if it is already installed
[08:46] <Bill> ok
[08:46] <vbanait> or use third party boot loader
[08:46] <Bill> how?
[08:46] <astro76> Bill, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:46] <bruenig> Bill, just install windows on another partition and then follow that link astro76 gave you
[08:46] <wokwendell> lumio: Check out #ubuntu-effects
[08:46] <Bill> ok
[08:46] <lumio> thx
[08:46] <Bill> i will try it
[08:46] <dem0n> ok how do i change my ftp folder for example when you connect to my ftp you get every thing thats in my home folder now say i made a folder under ftp and thats where i wanted the ftp to look at how would i do that
[08:46] <Bill> bye
[08:47] <vbanait> bill if you have beautiful windows why u need ubuntu
[08:47] <CaptainFrisbee> KeeperOfTheSoul, System->Preferences->Keyboard->layouts (Gnome)
[08:47] <bruenig> what is this patching grub, there is no patching
[08:47] <bruenig> thats like saying doing fixmbr in windows is patching the windows bootloader
[08:47] <KeeperOfTheSoul> CaptainFrisbee: that only changes the key layout once logged in though
[08:47] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[08:47] <zmeiat_joro> well the maintaner is "Ubuntu Core Developers <ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com>" -> I'll send an email about it?
[08:47] <vbanait> ok now my question please
[08:48] <KeeperOfTheSoul> I want to change the layout for the whole system, including cli
[08:48] <howlingmadhowie> bruenig: i think they mean reinstalling the part of grub which lives in the mbr to the mbr and updating menu.lst :)
[08:48] <CaptainFrisbee> KeeperOfTheSoul, Ah ok, you will probably have to change your Xorg config
[08:48] <vbanait> how do you use hyperref to creat form or is there anything like adobe designer for ubu
[08:49] <howlingmadhowie> vbanait: what is adobe designer, btw?
[08:49] <astro76> zmeiat_joro, see if a bug report exists, if not you can file one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs
[08:49] <KeeperOfTheSoul> infact, what I would really like is something similar to /stand/install that you get on fbsd that lets you go throug the config and package selection bit you get when installing the OS
[08:49] <Bill> how do i get rid of ubuntu and grub so i can istall windows
[08:49] <bruenig> Bill, rm -rf /
[08:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Bill: drop in your windows disk
[08:49] <modulus> Bill: simply install windows on top of it.
[08:49] <dem0n> can some one help me vsftpd changeing the directory
[08:49] <howlingmadhowie> bruenig: lol!
[08:49] <Bill> ok
[08:49] <vbanait> visit link www.adobe.com and see
[08:49] <astro76> Bill, just install windows, then use the link I gave you to get grub back
[08:50] <Bill> ok
[08:50] <Bill> i get it
[08:50] <Bill> ok bye
[08:50] <mroc> i'm trying to tftp to a router.  it asks me to specify a port....which port do i use?
[08:50] <n2diy> KeeperOfTheSoul: probably have to do that through loadkeys
[08:50] <vbanait> bill good luck for the adventure
[08:50] <bruenig> this is bizarre, FUD coming from #ubuntu causes him to remove ubuntu
[08:50] <buzzbuzz> Is it possible to "install" Windows Vista using the DVD in VMWARE to use for example my Adobe CReative suite?
[08:51] <Justi1> after shrinking the ubuntu partition, I boot up the OS and it says "Error loading operating system". can anyone help?
[08:51] <vbanait> reinstall
[08:51] <KeeperOfTheSoul> n2diy: ah, I was expecting the layout for the system to be in a config file somewhere
[08:51] <howlingmadhowie> vbanait: i can see a product called inDesign, but i can't see a designer
[08:51] <wokwendell> Hi all - I can't get my Sony Clie to sync (or even be recognized) - any tips?  What should I be looking for in dmesg to see if it's recognized or not?
[08:51] <KeeperOfTheSoul> buzzbuzz: vista runs fine in a VM, but you need to use business or ultimate
[08:51] <dem0n> MROC: 20-22
[08:51] <buzzbuzz> Good, I have Business
[08:51] <KeeperOfTheSoul> buzzbuzz: the home editions arn't licenced for use in VMs
[08:51] <nicholaspaul> I have about three million kernels installed here... can i clean that up and leave only the latest one?
[08:51] <bruenig> it is scary how inept most of these users are, "Yeah just throw away your ubuntu install because otherwise you might have to actually know something" and it isn't even knowing something it is copying and pasting commands from a wiki
[08:52] <mroc> dem0n: any of those 3 will work?
[08:52] <n2diy> KeeperOfTheSoul: probably is? I changed my keyboard during install, so I never had to mess with it.
[08:52] <howlingmadhowie> mroc: tftp:69 ftp:21
[08:52] <buzzbuzz> KeeperOfTheSoul: Do I need The vmware server or client?
[08:52] <buzzbuzz> :D
[08:52] <chhawal> hello
[08:52] <dem0n> ok that works :D
[08:52] <mroc> howlingmadhowie: ok, great.   thanks for the info.
[08:52] <chhawal> i just have one quick question
[08:52] <dem0n> Can some one help me with my vsftpd
[08:52] <KeeperOfTheSoul> n2diy: yeah, I was hoping for something like /stand/install that fbsd provides that lets you go back through the install setup for the system again
[08:52] <TtyS3> mroc 21 or 23 are normally used
[08:52] <nicholaspaul> Whats the command for cleaning up unwanted (temp) files?
[08:52] <vbanait> howling: http://www.adobe.com/products/server/formdesigner/index.html
[08:53] <chhawal> does anyone know how to prevent the Cd/DVD drive icon from popping up on the desktop
[08:53] <CaptainFrisbee> nicholaspaul, you can delete the kernels you don't need with synaptic
[08:53] <nicholaspaul> CaptainFrisbee: You're my new friend...haha! Thanks!
[08:53] <buzzbuzz> chhawal: run gconf-editor in terminal and navigate to APPS -> NAUTILUS -> DESKTOP
[08:53] <chhawal> thanks buzz
[08:53] <andyho623> <-- 2 weeks into strictly ubuntu set up with only very limited previous knowledge of linux! :) It's not as bad as Ithought it would be.. yeah still gotta work at getting it all fixed.. but you'd be doing the same thing with window$ continually anyways! ;)
[08:53] <buzzbuzz> it should help
[08:54] <howlingmadhowie> dem0n: okay, i've used vsftpd a bit.
[08:54] <n2diy> CaptainFrisbee: Yes, but they aren't listed as kernels, they are called linux...
[08:54] <alexIdoia> hi, it seems that since I have installed ubuntu, I can't connect anymore to the network, I have tried everything I know, can someone help me ?
[08:54] <Asche> what is Automatix?
[08:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !automatix
[08:54] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:54] <vbanait> is your network detected
[08:54] <quasar8888> Hello all
[08:54] <howlingmadhowie> vbanait: well, i still have absolutely no idea what the product does. i'll carry on listening to the tour...
[08:55] <alexIdoia> vbanait: how can I be sure ?
[08:55] <chhawal> wow. that was almost too simple XD
[08:55] <Asche> Jack_Sparrow: I know it's bad, but what is it?
[08:55] <chhawal> thanks again buzzbuzz
[08:55] <quasar8888> I am having trouble playing DVD's
[08:55] <||drake||> alright, im gonna try a reboot
[08:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Script to install things you could do with help here.
[08:55] <||drake||> who wants to bet on whether or not it'll work?
[08:55] <buzzbuzz> chhawal: np =)
[08:55] <vbanait> on top right corner, network icon is present
[08:55] <dem0n> how do i change the directory? like when some one logs into my ftp they see my home folder i wanna have it go to a folder that i crated??
[08:55] <vbanait> click it
[08:55] <howlingmadhowie> vbanait: oh, you want a documentation solution. something like ditta
[08:55] <Asche> Jack_Sparrow: How do I tell if it has been used?
[08:55] <alexIdoia> vbanait: I have DHCPRELEASE on eth0 to 192.168.0.1
[08:55] <vbanait> is your network (wired/unwired) detected
[08:56] <kitche> dem0n: configure your ftp daemon correctly which ftp daemon are you using?
[08:56] <alexIdoia> vbanait: it is wired
[08:56] <andyho623> ok.. here we go with the firefox uninstall... lets see what happens..
[08:56] <vbanait> okay
[08:56] <dem0n> vsftpd
[08:56] <alexIdoia> the icon shoes a red cross
[08:56] <dmhouse> Hey all. I want to use the memory card reader built into my laptop, but inserting a memory card doesn't cause anything to happen, as far as I know. `dmesg | tail` does tell me "[20623.132000]  tifm_core: MemoryStick card detected in socket 0:2", though. Any suggestions as to how to mount it?
[08:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Asche: You have to run it .. you can look at your sources list
[08:56] <howlingmadhowie> dem0n: isn't there something in vsftpd.conf?
[08:56] <alexIdoia> vbanait: what else ?
[08:56] <dem0n> nope i looked
[08:56] <Asche> Jack_Sparrow: And how do I do that?
[08:57] <vbanait> okay. double click it
[08:57] <albert`> howlingmadhowie: Yes
[08:57] <vbanait> is it enabled
[08:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Asche: Is this your computer or someone esles.. It isnt something you can do on accident
[08:57] <soothsayer> Where do you set a daemon to not launch automatically on startup?
[08:57] <Asche> it's my computer
[08:57] <alexIdoia> Manual configuration ?
[08:57] <alexIdoia> vbanait: ^^
[08:57] <jetscreamer> you can hack it and chmod -x /etc/init.d/whateer
[08:58] <jetscreamer> dirty hack
[08:58] <alexIdoia> vbanait: there is a ticked checkbox on the left of wired connection
[08:58] <howlingmadhowie> dem0n: i think a user logging in should automatically go to their home directory. the classical solution would be to create a user for other people to use
[08:58] <buzzbuzz> By the way, anyone here tried www.hacketyhack.net ? - it's awesome but won't work on my 64 bit feisty
[08:58] <buzzbuzz> :/
[08:58] <Asche> Jack_Sparrow: It's my computer.
[08:58] <dem0n> ok ty howling
[08:58] <bruenig> alexIdoia, I wouldn't pay much attention to him, do "ifconfig" to see if your interface is up and connected
[08:58] <vbanait> In manual configuration enter DHCP if automatic configuration needed otherwise enetr the details if u know them
[08:58] <wastedfluid> hello.  when i try to sudo dpkg-reconfigure, I get a few error messages like this: locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
[08:58] <wastedfluid>  ..... any ideas?
[08:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Asche: Look in here  /etc/apt/sources.list          ... post it to the pastebin if you have questions...
[08:58] <buzzbuzz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=433122
[08:59] <Asche> Jack_Sparrow: I'll go take a look.
[08:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Asche: Are you having unusual probelms
[08:59] <alexIdoia> bruenig: does not look like, I have a paragraphe for eth0 and lo
[08:59] <fawaz_> Hello Is there any way to see if ndiswrapper is working fine and my driver is working
[08:59] <bruenig> alexIdoia, is eth0 the interface you are looking for?
[08:59] <alexIdoia> yes
[08:59] <TerroriSta> hello, everyone, i just want to say one thing :P
[08:59] <alexIdoia> bruenig: yes
[09:00] <TerroriSta> ubuntu owns :)
[09:00] <Asche> Jack_Sparrow: Well every time I try to update wine I keep getting an error about the pubkey not being registered.
[09:00] <bruenig> alexIdoia, ok and this is ethernet correct?
[09:00] <alexIdoia> bruenig: I use to see my IP address there, but it is not now
[09:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Asche: SO your sources have changed.
[09:00] <bruenig> alexIdoia, assuming it is dhcp, do "sudo dhclient eth0"
[09:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource > Asche
[09:01] <Asche> Jack_Sparrow: I'm a little lost, what do you mean by that?
[09:01] <alexIdoia> bruenig: DHCPDISCOVER but it hangs up to finaly died: no working lease
[09:01] <bruenig> alexIdoia, it is likely that your connection is down from ISP
[09:01] <fawaz_>  Hello Is there any way to see if ndiswrapper is working fine and my driver is working
[09:01] <howlingmadhowie> albert`: okay, the easy course of action would be: 1/ reinstall ubuntu on the internal drive. 2/copy everything on the external drive you want to keep on to the ubuntu partition on the internal drive. 3/ reformat the external drive 4/copy everything you want to keep on the internal drive to the external drive 5/ use the live cd to wipe the internal drive totally 6/ reinstall windows on the internal drive 7/ reinstall ubuntu 
[09:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Asche: That link is a way to fix your source list, but there is little we can do to fix your system if you used automatix to install wine or other things
[09:01] <bruenig> alexIdoia, are you dualbooting or do you have some other way to know if there it is even working
[09:02] <bruenig> s/there//
[09:02] <alexIdoia> bruenig: no because I am using a second computer with the same router and I am here talking to you :)
[09:02] <vbanait> bruenig my eth0 card is not detected by ubuntu. It is realtek card. When i installed ubuntu 7.04, it gave message" Network card not detected, but Firewall card is present" is it a bug
[09:02] <Asche> Jack_Sparrow: I see.  how do I use that link?
[09:02] <bruenig> vbanait, I don't care about your gui issues, I have no idea what you are even talking about with your crappy gui front ends
[09:02] <alexIdoia> bruenig: no I am not dualbooting and I am sure about my router my Internet connection and my cable
[09:03] <bruenig> alexIdoia, well the problem from that output appears to be that your router isn't offering you an ip address
[09:03] <fawaz_>  Hello Is there any way to see if ndiswrapper is working fine and my driver is working I have Ubuntu 7.04
[09:03] <vbanait> Bruenig should be blacklisted for using nonsense language
[09:03] <alexIdoia> bruenig: ok I will investigate more on my router them
[09:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Asche: Havent used it in awhile but select your version etc and it makes a new source list to replace your damaged/changed one
[09:03] <vbanait> bruenig my eth0 card is not detected by ubuntu. It is realtek card. When i installed ubuntu 7.04, it gave message" Network card not detected, but Firewall card is present" is it a bug
[09:03] <Bsims> Ok heck gives, my connection is resetting itself ever few minutes
[09:04] <bruenig> vbanait, you have no idea what you are talking about, as evidenced by your solution of "click on this icon and then check this box and then do this and this"
[09:04] <Asche> Jack_Sparrow: So basicily I'd type !easysourse in the command line?
[09:04] <vbanait> i understand. but do you have any idea about the problem that i am having
[09:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource
[09:04] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Asche: Click the linkl
[09:05] <bruenig> vbanait, does it work?
[09:05] <vbanait> yes it works with windows.
[09:05] <bruenig> vbanait, does it work in gnu/linux
[09:05] <Asche> Jack_Sparrow: what link?
[09:06] <vbanait> but live cd also do not detect wired network
[09:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Asche: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:06] <fawaz_> Is there any way to see if NDIswrapper is working fine and my driver is working I have Ubuntu 7.04
[09:06] <Asche> Jack_Sparrow: Ah, that link.
[09:06] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[09:06] <F00BaR> hi there, how do i change the DNS/gateway info for my ISP
[09:06] <vbanait> if i am not wrong 9as u always feel) "lspic" command detects the card
[09:07] <w4ett> Why does my GeForce 6200 card show in lspci as:  nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600/GeForce 6600 GT]  (rev a2)
[09:07] <Asche> Jack_Sparrow: Do I want to include the repositories as well?
[09:08] <vbanait> i am dual booting with windows xp
[09:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Asche: The source list is a list of repositiories that synaptic or apt-get will use to get what you want to install
[09:09] <vbanait> bruinig are you getting my problem
[09:09] <howlingmadhowie> hey bruenig, vbanait. can we tone it down a bit? in the words of jack nicholson, "can't we all just get along?"
[09:09] <Asche> Jack_Sparrow: I think I follow you.
[09:09] <Bsims_> Ok is anyone else having problems with their internet dropping and restarting
[09:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Asche: This will NOT fix your problem if you used Automatix or envy scripts...
[09:09] <bruenig> vbanait, if you don't answer my questions, I really don't feel like helping you
[09:09] <vbanait> howlingmadhowei: i agree with you
[09:09] <Jimdb> any advice on retaining my system configuration when I upgrade my mobo?  I'm upgrading the mobo from a nforce4 939 athlon to nforce 590 socket am2 with an athlon 6000+? is there a way to do this without having to start all over?
[09:09] <Bsims_> Jimdb: should just pick up everything
[09:09] <Asche> Jack_Sparrow: I understand that.
[09:10] <Jimdb> what should just pick up everything?
[09:10] <taime1> no gtk+-2.0 in ubuntu?
[09:10] <Jimdb> will i need to reinstall or will the hardware detector upon boot recognize everything?
[09:10] <surkit> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQMXCoFADqg
[09:10] <vbanait> It is not working with ubuntu linux.
[09:10] <CaptainFrisbee> Jimdb, The new motherboard should be autoconfigured
[09:11] <Bsims_> Jimdb: should just work
[09:11] <howlingmadhowie> vbanait: so what's the situation? you have an internal realtek ethernet card and it's not working correctly?
[09:11] <fawaz_> help help help Is there any way to see if NDIswrapper is working fine and my driver is working I have Ubuntu 7.04
[09:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Jimdb: Both mb are athalon, it cant hurt to just try it.. if you have plenty of hard drive do a full backup
[09:11] <vbanait> yes sir
[09:11] <howlingmadhowie> vbanait: do you know if this is a problem specific to the ubuntu distribution or is it a general linux problem?
[09:11] <vbanait> it works with windows xp. but not with ubuntu.
[09:12] <Bsims_> Jimdb: the kernel is for all 386 so don't worry about it it should just Work
[09:12] <Jimdb> thanks.  i'll give it a straight up try.  really would hate to have to reinstall even if it is to do a repair type install.
[09:12] <vbanait> i really do not know about other distributions
[09:12] <Jimdb> yeah, not worried about the cpu...worried about the chipset.
[09:12] <howlingmadhowie> vbanait: do you know the exact name of the card? (it's possible lspci or lshw can give you the exact name or the name of the chipset on the card)
[09:12] <jowi> Jimdb: the only problem i can see happening is if the disk order change, but that you can fix in the cmos/bios settings.
[09:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Jimdb: It isnt like windows thinking you are trying to steal a copy of the os
[09:13] <Asche> Jack_Sparrow: How do I show you what is in my sources.list file?
[09:13] <howlingmadhowie> !pastebin | Asche
[09:13] <ubotu> Asche: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Asche: Copy it to the pastebin
[09:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !pastebin
[09:14] <vas> hey I am looing for a program that will send me an email whenever a specified log file is changed a certain way
[09:14] <buzzbuzz> How do I download Pidgin for Feisty Fawn? ;)
[09:15] <howlingmadhowie> vas: sounds like a job for a shell script to me. have a look at cronjobs as well
[09:15] <vbanait> howlingmadhowei: Realtek  Hangzhou Silan Microelectronics
[09:15] <taime1> where are gtk themes located?
[09:15] <Asche> Jack_Sparrow: alright.  here is it.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31707/
[09:15] <vas> howlingmadhowie: I don't know shell... and I do not feel like leraning itw hen I know there has to be a program out there that will do this for me
[09:15] <howlingmadhowie> vbanait: mm. that's not enough information to find out which card it is.
[09:15] <jowi> taime1: /usr/share/themes or /home/user/.themes/
[09:15] <vas> howlingmadhowie: I know there has to be some other people out ther that have wwanted this doen befroe
[09:15] <vbanait> what else is needed
[09:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Asche: I will take a look but wife is calling.. howlingmadhowie can help you with it..
[09:16] <howlingmadhowie> vas: well basically what you want to do would be considered so trivial by all the freaks and gurus that it would surprise me if someone has written a program to do it.
[09:16] <Asche> Jack_Sparrow: hehe.  Take care of your family first.
[09:16] <vbanait> Hangzhou Silan Microelectronics Co., Ltd.|RTL8139D [Realtek]  PCI 10/100BaseTX ethernet adaptor"
[09:16] <vas> howlingmadhowie: what do you mean?
[09:16] <jetscreamer> strangely enough, anacron emails you when it updates stuff
[09:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Asche: I dont see anything wrong there.
[09:17] <vbanait> howlingmadhowie:Hangzhou Silan Microelectronics Co., Ltd.|RTL8139D [Realtek]  PCI 10/100BaseTX ethernet adaptor"
[09:17] <wastedfluid> what is the package name for openssl's developmental library? I installed "openssl" - but need the developmental library now
[09:17] <Bsims_> Ok What gives knetwork manager scans and It drops my connection ever few minutes I am using a wired connection
[09:18] <Bsims_> Started after I did a full update today.... this is really getting annoying
[09:18] <vbanait> howlinmadhoweie: Hangzhou Silan Microelectronics Co., Ltd.|RTL8139D [Realtek]  PCI 10/100BaseTX ethernet adaptor"
[09:19] <howlingmadhowie> vas: basically you write a short script which checks for whatever you want to check for in a file. if it finds it, it sends an email somewhere. the whole thing gets put in crontab, which means that it will be performed when specified
[09:19] <vas> howlingmadhowie: I don't know shell.. isn't there a simpler way
[09:20] <howlingmadhowie> vbanait: does 'lsmod | grep 8139' return anything? i'm looking for a driver called 8139too
[09:20] <Surviver> can anyone tell me why some ppl rebuild their kernel (whats the use , effects? ..)
[09:20] <Bsims_> Hrm all the log shows is taht it restarted my network connection... how the merry heck do I tell it to leave it alone?
[09:21] <howlingmadhowie> vas: that would be a pretty easy way of doing it (for the guru at least). i think what you want to do is also quite specific. as said, i'd be surprised if somebody had written a program for something which is really 3 or 4 lines of script
[09:21] <leif> to use kdewallet on ubuntu (gnome) whats needed to be installed? kwallet and ?
[09:21] <richard> logitech quickcam pro, can you help
[09:21] <vbanait> no
[09:21] <jowi> vas: depending on what service you're after, there probably already exist email report tools for it. mon might be what you want
[09:22] <jowi> !info mon
[09:22] <ubotu> mon: monitor hosts/services/whatever and alert about problems. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.2-10ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 174 kB, installed size 820 kB
[09:22] <jowi> vas: "apt-cache show mon" for more info
[09:22] <richard> anyone know about logitech quickcam pro, can you help
[09:22] <n2diy> howlingmadhowie: I helped a friend setup that card a year or so ago, and there are two modules floating around for it, I forget which one we used to get it to work? Just a heads up.
[09:22] <howlingmadhowie> vbanait: and you don't have a network connection at the moment using this card. try 'modinfo 8139too'. that will tell you if the module is installed on your system
[09:22] <howlingmadhowie> n2diy: oh, okay :) thanks :)
[09:22] <astro76> !swatch | vas
[09:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swatch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:22] <astro76> !info swatch | vas
[09:22] <ubotu> vas: swatch: Log file viewer with regexp matching, highlighting, & hooks. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-1 (feisty), package size 40 kB, installed size 196 kB
[09:23] <richard> anyone know about logitech quickcam pro, can you help
[09:23] <howlingmadhowie> vas: i seem not to be the best person to help you here. mon and swatch sound more interesting for you :)
[09:24] <vbanait> https://bugs.launchpad.net/baltix/+source/network-manager/+bug/82927
[09:24] <Surviver> can anyone tell me why some ppl rebuild their kernel (whats the use , effects? ..)
[09:24] <vbanait> no it is probably not
[09:25] <vbanait> i did it 2 days back
[09:26] <jowi> Surviver: to enable specific drivers or to remove functions to get a faster (and sometimes more stable) system.
[09:26] <LeChacal> ok i have a question isnt the drives that Ubuntu use for FAT32 a lot better then NTFS because i have a second HDD that i share between my Windows and Ubuntu partitions and i tried to mount it in Ubuntu for the first time and it showed most of the file names were scrabble and it seem to make my pc very very sluggish. any suggestion to what is the problem?
[09:26] <LeChacal> it is a FAT32 partition
[09:27] <howlingmadhowie> vbanait: are you talking to me?
[09:27] <CaptainFrisbee> LeChacal, could you pastebin your /etc/fstab config ?
[09:28] <Surviver> jowi, mzz oke
[09:28] <alexIdoi1> this will sound dumb but to see the list of my physical disk and what partition is on it, what command should i use ?
[09:28] <astro76> alexIdoi1, mount, or df -h
[09:28] <n2diy> alexIdoi1: df -h
[09:28] <isaac_> i need help installing samba and getting it to run. right now it wont work because  "Loading samba daemons     [failed] "   will someone help me out?
[09:29] <LeChacal> CaptainFrisbee: i am new how do i get to that file
[09:29] <howlingmadhowie> alexIdoi1: "fdisk -l" will also tell you lots of stuff
[09:29] <LeChacal> CaptainFrisbee: i believe that i have edit once but i dont remember how i got to it
[09:30] <CaptainFrisbee> LeChacal, open a terminal and execute: cat /etc/fstab
[09:30] <howlingmadhowie> alexIdoi1: no it won't. i'm talking rubbish here. "df -h" is a lot better :)
[09:30] <attunix> hi. how do i isntall medit?
[09:30] <attunix> i tried installing mtools already; it's not in there
[09:31] <astro76> !info mtools | attunix
[09:31] <ubotu> attunix: mtools: Tools for manipulating MSDOS files. In component main, is optional. Version 3.9.10.ds1-3 (feisty), package size 197 kB, installed size 484 kB
[09:31] <jowi> Surviver: example; I wanted a faster boot time on my low end PC (via epia M-1000). I know that alot of features are not available for that motherboard and that I need to enable Direct Rendering for the chipset in it. I remove most drivers apart that the ones I need and select them to be compiles into the kernel instead of as modules. result: boottime cut down from 1m30s to 35s. (that 's on a dapper kernel)
[09:31] <Rockinghorse> no
[09:31] <vbanait> Howlimadhowei: yes. pl go ahead
[09:31] <shelmar> Hi people
[09:32] <attunix> astro76: i said medit isn't in mtools :P
[09:32] <Flannel> attunix: I don't believe medit is in the repos
[09:32] <wckdkl0wn> ok this might be kinda hard to do i dunno but this is what i am lookin for...  ok currently i have a cron job that works every 15 mins.. what it does is it makes a directory list of a certain folder and makes a .txt file on my desktop with the output.. ok what i want to do is.. i want to have that file automatically upload every hour to my webhost via ftp.. but i dont want it to be a txt i want it to be in html with a background and a header
[09:32] <attunix> cuz i have some files i want to edit in command line (secure mode or whatever @ startup), and pico doesn't show a cursor and i  dont want to type "i, esc, :wq" in vi all the time.
[09:33] <CaptainFrisbee> attunix, you can use nano
[09:33] <alexIdoi1> bizarrily this morning all my internal did not mount as they use to do, they use to be sdb1, sdb2, sdb3, I have mount them manually and release that they are now /dev/sdc1, /dev/sdc2, etc, is that possible ???
[09:33] <Flannel> attunix: nano doesn't show a cursor?
[09:33] <Flannel> CaptainFrisbee: pico doesn't exist (it is nano) in Ubuntu
[09:33] <vbanait> https://bugs.launchpad.net/baltix/+source/network-manager/+bug/82927
[09:33] <Drizzt321> whats the ubuntu server way of building a custom kernel?
[09:33] <Flannel> !kernel | Drizzt321
[09:34] <ubotu> Drizzt321: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:34] <Hali_304> howlingmadhowie: solution was: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/util-linux/+bug/66637/com
[09:34] <alexIdoi1> might it be due to the fact that I have installed a PCI device yesterday ?
[09:34] <isaac_> i need help installing samba and getting it to run. right now it wont work because  "Loading samba daemons     [failed] "   will someone help me out?
[09:34] <attunix> flannel: "pico" still launches it; yes i know nano is a free version of non-free pico
[09:34] <Drizzt321> Flannel: thanks
[09:34] <Hali_304> howlingmadhowie: thanks anyways for helping!
[09:34] <shelmar> speak spanish ?
[09:34] <Flannel> attunix: right, like I asked, nano doesn't show a cursor?
[09:34] <Flannel> !es | shelmar
[09:34] <ubotu> shelmar: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:34] <n2diy> ! es | shelmar
[09:34] <howlingmadhowie> vbanait: can you try "modinfo 8139too" ?
[09:34] <shelmar> thx
[09:34] <Flannel> wckdkl0wn: you'll need to convert it into HTML, through whatever means you'd like.
[09:34] <dick-richardson> !es | shelmar
[09:35] <fawaz_>  I have got these is it ok
 fawaz@fawaz-desktop:~$ ndiswrapper -l
 rt2500usb : driver installed
         device (13B1:000D) present (alternate driver: rt2570)
[09:35] <jowi> isaac_: samba can be complex to set up depending on what use you want. see !samba for good guide.
[09:35] <shelmar> ! es
[09:35] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:35] <vbanait> i tried. it is not installed
[09:35] <Surviver> jowi, impressive so basically u "throw" away the unwanted drivers etc and recompile it that it is the best for ur pc ..
[09:35] <isaac_> jowi, k
[09:35] <dem0n> how do i move a file like say i have a file on my desktop and wanna move it to /var/hi  i have to do it in terminal
[09:35] <Flannel> dem0n: mv
[09:35] <ConstyXIV> dem0n: mv foo bar
[09:35] <dick-richardson> mv /path/file1 /path/file2
[09:35] <isaac_> !samba
[09:35] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:35] <Surviver> jowi, today i just gonna read and gather some more info about it and prob tomorrow evening i just try some simple ...
[09:35] <howlingmadhowie> Hali_304: pleased to know you fixed it :) thanks for the link :)
[09:35] <GeeK> yay , i finaly got nvidia drivers running in ubuntu... now if only i could get xorg.conf setup correctly for my matrox triplehead2go
[09:35] <GeeK> anyone ?
[09:35] <attunix> does anyone know of a good cli text editor (besides vi, nano/pico, emacs)?
[09:36] <fawaz_> Please  I have got these is it ok
 fawaz@fawaz-desktop:~$ ndiswrapper -l
 rt2500usb : driver installed
         device (13B1:000D) present (alternate driver: rt2570)
[09:36] <CaptainFrisbee> dem0n, or you can open a file manager with root privileges (gksu in gnome)
[09:36] <] RandoM[> Hali_304, from halifax are ya?
[09:36] <wckdkl0wn> Flannel, how do i convert it to html?
[09:36] <Surviver> !pastebin
[09:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:36] <Hali_304> howlingmadhowie: this comment should be made into a faq question or sg like that, maybe it will help others
[09:36] <jowi> Surviver: yep, that's basicly it.
[09:36] <Hali_304> ] RandoM[: no, why?
[09:36] <howlingmadhowie> dem0n: but you'll need to have root rights to do that, because var can only be written to by root
[09:36] <Asche> ok, now I have another question, how do you copy and past things in the command line?
[09:36] <ConstyXIV> attunix: i use vim, but i've heard of something called joe that some people use
[09:36] <shy_man> can somebody help me with ubuntu:/?
[09:36] <Flannel> wckdkl0wn: prepending a HTML header, appending the closing stuff.  And then styling each line however you'd like.
[09:36] <] RandoM[> Hali_304, i'm from halifax... everybody here calls it hali for short
[09:36] <howlingmadhowie> Hali_304: i'm not an admin here, unfortunately :)
[09:37] <dem0n> ok how do i get root rights??
[09:37] <Surviver> jowi, and eg when i do something wrong then it wont boot anymore? (so i best take a backup of the file
[09:37] <Flannel> dem0n: You want to use sudo: `sudo mv foo bar`
[09:37] <dick-richardson> ! root | dem0n
[09:37] <ubotu> dem0n: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:37] <astro76> Asche, just select the text to copy, and middle-click to paste
[09:37] <howlingmadhowie> Hali_304: you're from halifax? yorkshire, halifax?
[09:37] <Hali_304> ] RandoM[: oh didn't know that. I'll look up that place on wikipedia :) maybe I'll move there once
[09:37] <Beket> Hello guys. How can I clear the packages that are kept in local cache ? Thanks
[09:37] <Flannel> !away > she|OFF
[09:37] <jowi> Surviver: it's not that complex. the kernel have a lot of options that can make it a bit tricky. on the plus side, it will teach you a lot about your hardware and what it is capable of.
[09:37] <Hali_304> howlingmadhowie: I'm from Hungary
[09:37] <Flannel> Beket: apt-cache clean
[09:37] <attunix> does anyone know of a good  cli text editor (besides vi, nano/pico, emacs) ?
[09:37] <Beket> thanks Flannel :)
[09:37] <Hali_304> howlingmadhowie: central europe
[09:37] <Surviver> jowi, really intresting
[09:37] <Flannel> Beket: er, I'm sorry, apt-get clean
[09:37] <ConstyXIV> attunix: joe, see http://joe-editor.sourceforge.net/
[09:37] <obf213> my recording worked yesterday now it doesnt work i didnt even do anything
[09:38] <dem0n> hmm
[09:38] <Asche> astro76: does that work too in the text editors that you run from command line?
[09:38] <j_> attunix: ee ?
[09:38] <Drizzt321> Flannel: so the way I read it, I can grab the latest vanilla kernel.org and use that with these instructions, or does ubuntu have a large number of patches that it adds that I probably need?
[09:38] <obf213> i keep getting this faild to construct pipeline for gconfaudiosrc error
[09:38] <howlingmadhowie> Hali_304: oh, sorry. JRando said he was from halifax :) my mistake.
[09:38] <shy_man> I have a problem with x when my ubuntu boots i can hear every sound but cannot see anything:/
[09:38] <m_> !beryl
[09:38] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:38] <jowi> !kernel | Surviver
[09:38] <ubotu> Surviver: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:38] <Bsims_> Ok lets try this tell it not to use DCHP on lan side
[09:38] <j_> attunix: there is an editor called 'ed' or 'ee'. simple but tty.
[09:38] <Flannel> Drizzt321: Ubuntu does.  That page tells you how to get a ubuntu-ised kernel
[09:38] <GeeK> anyone here have a Matrox TripleHead2go unit working with ubuntu  ?
[09:39] <attunix> j_:thanks. I'll check that out
[09:39] <Surviver> jowi, thxc
[09:39] <Surviver> jowi, thx*
[09:39] <obf213> anybody know how to fix this "failed to construct test pipelone for gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert! audioresample! error
[09:39] <Drizzt321> Flannel: oh. does the git repository line up to the latest released kernel source tree? (within a few days of it being release I'm talking about)
[09:39] <vbanait> https://bugs.launchpad.net/baltix/+source/network-manager/+bug/82927
[09:39] <Hali_304> howlingmadhowie: no problem ;)
[09:40] <Drizzt321> Flannel: or does it only grab it when minor (not minor.minor) release are made?
[09:40] <Bsims_> Ok so far after telling it not to use dchp I havn't had the eth0 decide to restart itself... any ides what could be causing that so i know where to file the bug?
[09:40] <j_> anyone with an URL to a how-to to get Thunderbird2 into Fiesty?
[09:40] <Flannel> Drizzt321: It should line up immediately (or before immediately)
[09:40] <alecwh> !dvd
[09:40] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[09:40] <Drizzt321> Flannel: thats great, thanks.  :)
[09:40] <howlingmadhowie> vbanait: the problem i see at the moment is with the card itself. support for realtek8139 is poor. according to http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=441115 there are a lot of cards pretending to use the realtek8139 chipset and actually using something else. i doubt this is a nm problem
[09:41] <m_> can anyone here help me with beryl? i'm a newbie
[09:41] <Flannel> !firefox | j_
[09:41] <ubotu> j_: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[09:41] <jonah_> hi guys just changed graphics card and working ok but gnome only lets me pic 56hz refresh rate and monitor should be at 72 or something, is there a way i can change this please?
[09:41] <Flannel> j_: that's one way (same instructions but with TB instead of FF), or you can backport it from gutsy with prevu:
[09:41] <Flannel> !prevu | j_
[09:41] <ubotu> j_: prevu is an automated, personal backporting utility. Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Prevu for more details
[09:41] <j_> Flannel:  thanks!
[09:41] <alecwh> I'm looking for a DVD Player, which supports menus and everything, what will work?
[09:41] <Flannel> j_: prevu will be more pain free, I believe, since it's (almost) all automated
[09:42] <j_> Flannel: ok
[09:42] <Xecuter88> Hi! I'm having a problem with bluetooth. i'm trying to connect to my mobile phone. but when i run "sudo hcitool cc 00:19:63:32:D4:88" nothing happens... got ideas?
[09:42] <blkno1> How do I set my time via command-line?
[09:42] <jowi> alecwh: totem-xine
[09:42] <howlingmadhowie> alecwh: i tend to use xine, but vlc or mplayer should also work
[09:42] <j_> Flannel: is prevu something similar to automatix?
[09:42] <CaptainFrisbee> jonah_, I have the same issue are you using a nvidia card?
[09:42] <alecwh> thnx
[09:42] <n2diy> ! ntp
[09:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:42] <howlingmadhowie> blkno1: date
[09:43] <jonah_> CaptainFrisbee, yeah that's right
[09:43] <Flannel> j_: No, heavens no.  We'd never recommend anything so ugly.  Prevu backports the package from [X]  (gutsy in this case).  It sets up a chroot, compiles it with your depends, and gives you a deb in a prevu repository that you can install with your favorite package manager (and is upgrade safe)
[09:43] <jowi> alecwh: FYI mplayer does not support menues, so that one is not what you are looking for. both xine and totem-xine should work just fine though.
[09:43] <n2diy> blkno1: google for ntp and ubuntu
[09:43] <jonah_> Captain, i know i should just edit my xorg.conf but just not sure where to make changes and exactly what to put
[09:43] <Flannel> blkno1: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/server/C/NTP.html
[09:43] <alecwh> thanks
[09:43] <blkno1> thanks
[09:43] <howlingmadhowie> jowi: really? i didn't know that. thanks for the info :)
[09:44] <CaptainFrisbee> jonah_, I set my refresh rate to 50Hz in the preferences, but it sets my monitor to 85Hz
[09:44] <jowi> howlingmadhowie: yeah, the man page for mplayer has got the option listed but the mplayer version that ubuntu ships does not have dvdnav support.
[09:44] <howlingmadhowie> blkno1: ntp will get the time from a network time server. if you just want to set the time yourself, have a look at "man date"
[09:45] <howlingmadhowie> jowi: mm, a pity. though i get the impression that mplayer is being overtaken by ffmpeg atm as a back end
[09:45] <jonah_> CaptainFrisbee, I think we need to changed the horizsync and vertrefresh, but not sure to what
[09:45] <amirfahmy> hello there it's my first time using ubuntu
[09:45] <Xecuter88> I'm having a problem with bluetooth. i'm trying to connect to my mobile phone. but when i run "sudo hcitool cc 00:19:63:32:D4:88" nothing happens... got ideas?
[09:46] <Scunizi> jonah_, & CaptainFrisbee have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:46] <jonah_> Scunizi, yeah but that just sets it back to being totally wrong again
[09:46] <jowi> howlingmadhowie: i get the same impression. it's a shame because i love mplayer. it even lets me play dvd's directly to the framebuffer without using xorg :)
[09:46] <sotec_prod> Anyone ever heard of, or used and found real improvements from the patches on this website? http://members.optusnet.com.au/ckolivas/kernel/
[09:46] <qaws> !diacritics
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about diacritics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <astro76> jowi, you might need to install libdvdnav4, not sure about mplayer really
[09:47] <jowi> howlingmadhowie: but i need my dvd manues haha
[09:47] <jowi> astro76: I use libdvdnav4 with xine. but mplayer that's in ubuntu does not support it even if it is listed as a (beta) feature.
[09:48] <Scunizi> jonah_, & CaptainFrisbee you can manually change it by sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, find the line showing the refresh rates and put them where you want them, save exit, CTRL-ALT-Bkspace
[09:49] <qaws> hi, how can I copy files with special chars encoded by Windows from CD to my HDD? Everything, what has special chars isnt copiable, files without it can be copied without problems.
[09:49] <jowi> astro76: i built a simple front end in python/glade to set the command line mplayer config options, that's how i found out.
[09:49] <jonah_> i found my values here: http://taggy.noctis.at/space/Xorg.conf
[09:49] <dimas_> whats the command to remove a file on the terminal?
[09:49] <howlingmadhowie> jowi: mplayer allows directly playing to the framebuffer? that's pretty gosh-darn sexy :)
[09:49] <qaws> dimas_: rm
[09:49] <erUSUL> dimas_: rm
[09:49] <n2diy> jona_, CaptainFrisbee, make sure you get the horz. sync right, or you'll let the magic smoke out of the monitor.
[09:49] <erUSUL> !cli | dimas_
[09:49] <ConstyXIV> could you use something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-1AUDIO-Receiver-Stereo-Speakers/dp/B000MGGTBQ/ref=pd_bbs_10/105-2561156-0317259?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1185652027&sr=8-10 on a ubuntu laptop?
[09:49] <ubotu> dimas_: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[09:49] <sotec_prod> rm /place/folder/file
[09:50] <dimas_> qwas thanks
[09:50] <dimas_> erusul thanks
[09:50] <qaws> np
[09:50] <alecwh> Where can I find tutorials for Inkscape?
[09:50] <CaptainFrisbee> n2diy, Ok guess I'll know soon enough if it's correct :)
[09:50] <tatarodri> cls
[09:50] <tatarodri> get list
[09:50] <alecwh> !inkscape
[09:50] <ubotu> Inkscape is a powerful vector graphics drawing application - see http://www.inkscape.org/ for more
[09:50] <reallytallkid> !roulette
[09:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about roulette - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:50] <Enselic> If I run a server within a safe chroot environment, the server can be as insecure as it wants without me risking anything, right?
[09:50] <reallytallkid> oh you suck
[09:50] <Anlar> Enselic: wrong
[09:51] <reallytallkid> see ya
[09:51] <jussi01> !botabuse
[09:51] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:51] <reallytallkid> !dice
[09:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dice - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <jowi> howlingmadhowie: yeah, i agree. I run feisty right now without Xorg. mplayer plays everything i throw at it with "fullscreen", software stretching, dvd subs aso.
[09:51] <hyphnated> Enselic: no, not at all
[09:51] <jowi> howlingmadhowie: the subs flicker a bit but the video playback is flawless with fbdev (framebuffer)
[09:52] <dimas_> guys rm doesnt remove a directory
[09:52] <Enselic> Anlar: hyphnated: But if the server gets hacked, how would hackers be able to get out of the chroot jail (asuming the jail itself is setup safely)
[09:52] <qaws> hi, how can I copy files with special chars encoded by Windows from CD to my HDD? Everything, what has special chars isnt copiable, files without it can be copied without problems.
[09:52] <hyphnated> dimas_: it can if you use it right (-r)
[09:52] <Lucios> !xine
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <Anlar> Enselic: first of all, it is possible to break out of chroot. second, there might be flaws in kernel etc giving full system access. third, even when contained stuff like ddos are possible. it's 100% bullshit that chroot makes anything secure
[09:52] <Enselic> isnt that independant of server security?
[09:52] <howlingmadhowie> jowi: that is very, very cool :)
[09:52] <Anlar> Enselic: it's just a false feeling of security
[09:52] <jussi01> !info xine | Lucios
[09:52] <ubotu> lucios: Package xine does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:52] <dimas_> hyphnated thanks
[09:52] <Anlar> Enselic: it is _always_ possible to find a way out of chroot jail
[09:52] <dick-richardson> dimas_: rm -rf does
[09:53] <Roey> hi
[09:53] <surkit> oic
[09:53] <Anlar> Enselic: it's good only against automated brain dead scripts/worms/etc
[09:53] <dimas_> guys i got it! thanks
[09:53] <Roey> I've installed Kubuntu here;  Why does my scrollwheel only work when I hover over the scrollbar itself?  Can I fix this?
[09:53] <Enselic> Anlar: are you saying it's practicly not worth the effort to setup a chroot?
[09:54] <NETWIzz> I did a distribution icon that went bad on me
[09:54] <dimas_> any suggest driver for lexmark z32?
[09:54] <NETWIzz> My laptop lost power durring the upgrade
[09:54] <Anlar> Enselic: no, better use the effort for sane configuration and updating of the services..
[09:54] <NETWIzz> Now, it says upgrade to 6.10
[09:54] <NETWIzz> How is it upgrading to 6.10?
[09:54] <jowi> howlingmadhowie: it's an experiment i'm having. just to see if i can survive without Xorg (I was too lazy to buy an extra mouse last week). w3m as a web browser show pictures even. mplayer for movies. mp3blaster as a music player. weechat-curses for irc. it's a lean system but takes a while to get used to.
[09:55] <NETWIzz> I was already running 6.10 before I started the 7.04 upgrade
[09:55] <Music_Shuffle> jowi, hows it work?
[09:55] <Enselic> Anlar: the sever is a closed-soucce Half-Life 2 MP dedicated server, so I can't really configure it to be more or less secure afaik
[09:55] <nickrud> jowi, having fun setting up mutt?
[09:55] <ricardo> hola
[09:55] <howlingmadhowie> jowi: i knew there must be something better than aaxine :)
[09:55] <dick-richardson> anyone have experience with cpu soft lockups?
[09:56] <dimas_> any suggestion for a good driver for lexmark z32 printer?
[09:56] <nickrud> dimas_, check linuxprinting.org
[09:56] <jowi> nickrud: very. haha. I set up Maildir and postfix is the killer.
[09:56] <Anlar> Enselic: lol :) I'd put that sucker myself into vmware virtual machine and a virtual external firewall to limit connections :)
[09:56] <dimas_> nickrud thanks
[09:57] <jowi> Music_Shuffle: how does what work?
[09:57] <Music_Shuffle> jowi, err, nvm, I read up a few more messages :D
[09:58] <howlingmadhowie> jowi: x11 has gotta be updated anyway at some stage. how cool do you think it would be having a shell and this as a desktop environment: https://lg3d-wonderland.dev.java.net/
[09:58] <oscurochu> I get this error when trying to run a ./configure script: configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.
[09:58] <pilat> hi :>
[09:58] <nickrud> oscurochu, you need to install build-essential
[09:58] <oscurochu> nickrud: i did.
[09:58] <Ashfire908> what is a good XDMCP client for windows?
[09:58] <TtyS3> whats the difference between gksu and gksudo
[09:59] <pilat> is there a way to put something to .Xdefaults so that some apps started without border?
[09:59] <nickrud> oscurochu, gcc -v
[09:59] <astro76> TtyS3, nothing, gksudo links to gksu
[09:59] <TtyS3> thanks
[09:59] <oscurochu> Using built-in specs.
[09:59] <oscurochu> Target: i486-linux-gnu
[09:59] <oscurochu> Configured with: ../src/configure -v --enable-languages=c,c++,fortran,objc,obj-c++,treelang --prefix=/usr --enable-shared --with-system-zlib --libexecdir=/usr/lib --without-included-gettext --enable-threads=posix --enable-nls --program-suffix=-4.1 --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-clocale=gnu --enable-libstdcxx-debug --enable-mpfr --enable-checking=release i486-linux-gnu
[09:59] <oscurochu> Thread model: posix
[09:59] <oscurochu> gcc version 4.1.2 (Ubuntu 4.1.2-0ubuntu4)
[09:59] <nickrud> which has an option to use sudo or su as backend
[10:00] <jetscreamer> my god did he just paste the entire output of a kernel build?
[10:00] <ConstyXIV> Ashfire908: check out http://www.straightrunning.com/XmingNotes/
[10:00] <nickrud> oscurochu, that's odd, that's your compiler & it should work (jetscreamer, gcc build)
[10:00] <Ashfire908> thanks ConstyXIV
[10:00] <HugLeo> tombs: :)
[10:00] <l2> :'(D
[10:00] <tombs> HugLeo: :P
[10:00] <nickrud> !cz | l2
[10:00] <oscurochu> nickrud: im trying to compile binutils.
[10:00] <ubotu> l2: esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[10:00] <LeChacal> CaptainFrisbee: i am sorry about not responding but i was called off for a moment but inside of /etc/fstab file the drive isnt there because i have unplugged it and power cycle the PC, the drive was making the PC to sluggish to use, i can still past in if you think it will help
[10:00] <jowi> howlingmadhowie: even if, my hardware could not handle it lol
[10:00] <jetscreamer> !hu
[10:00] <ubotu> Magyar nyelv segtsget az #ubuntu-hu csatornn tall
[10:01] <nickrud> erm, wrong language :)
[10:01] <nickrud> !cn | l2
[10:01] <ubotu> l2: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[10:01] <CaptainFrisbee> LeChacal, ok go ahead
[10:01] <Lucios> here english only
[10:01] <LeChacal> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[10:01] <LeChacal> #
[10:01] <LeChacal> #  -- This file has been automaticly generated by ntfs-config --
[10:01] <LeChacal> #
[10:01] <LeChacal> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[10:01] <LeChacal> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
[10:01] <LeChacal> # Entry for /dev/sda2 :
[10:01] <LeChacal> UUID=9b5914e3-5e65-4289-bf60-860cae786cbf / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
[10:01] <LeChacal> # Entry for /dev/sda5 :
[10:01] <astro76> !paste | LeChacal
[10:01] <ubotu> LeChacal: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:01] <LeChacal> UUID=fede7a27-a3ce-4a2a-9a60-67ecfd230de1 none swap sw 0 0
[10:01] <LeChacal> /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
[10:01] <LeChacal> /dev/scd1 /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
[10:01] <nickrud> oscurochu, I'm sorry, but that's the limit of my experience, I've never had that error with gcc installed
[10:01] <LeChacal> /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0
[10:01] <jowi> LeChacal: use pastebin please
[10:02] <LeChacal> umm i am new i dont know what that is
[10:02] <alecwh> How do I get IE6 and IE7 to run on Linux?
[10:02] <tom_> Fishing for informed opinions about Ekiga the SIP, and H.323 VOIP.
[10:02] <alecwh> !ie > alecwh
[10:02] <CaptainFrisbee> LeChacal, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:02] <Lucios> yes..pastebin
[10:02] <alecwh> !ie
[10:02] <ubotu> For Irish whiskey and ubuntu support, visit #ubuntu-ie, Ta an uisce beatha agus cuidi Ubuntu ar #ubuntu-ie, Bag filte ort
[10:02] <Lucios> !paste | leChacal
[10:02] <ubotu> leChacal: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:02] <jowi> alecwh: i guess wine would work for ie6 at least
[10:03] <Ashfire908> ConstyXIV, http://www.straightrunning.com/XmingNotes/ which is the client?
[10:03] <Lucios> my ubuntu running smooth since i install 100 days ago
[10:03] <ConstyXIV> Ashfire908: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=156984
[10:04] <jowi> alecwh: a better option is to have a win installation in qemu, virtualbox or wmware
[10:04] <alecwh> jowi, why is it better?
[10:04] <Lucios> how to know how much running on system?
[10:04] <nickrud> alecwh, I just wanted ie for checking websites and don't have a win to install, and http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux worked well enough
[10:04] <josmen_> hola
[10:04] <ConstyXIV> alecwh: see also http://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeamlessVirtualization
[10:04] <alecwh> I think it needs Wine to work though
[10:04] <alecwh> and ok
[10:04] <LeChacal> ok now here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31718/
[10:04] <Lucios> service running on the system?
[10:05] <josmen_> que fue
[10:05] <jowi> alecwh: because you get the full windows system. less compatability issues. i wouldn't call it better though since i'm windows free for several years
[10:05] <Icehawk> nickrud: try the Ie Tab extension for FireFox
[10:05] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: the wine people like ies4linux about as much as we like and recommend automatix and envy
[10:05] <nickrud> Icehawk, that works under linux?
[10:05] <ConstyXIV> Icehawk: only works on windows
[10:05] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow, noted :)
[10:05] <Ashfire908> ConstyXIV, which is the client? mesa? portable-putty?
[10:06] <Icehawk> nickrud: just got told it only works on windoze
[10:06] <nickrud> Icehawk, k
[10:07] <Ashfire908> ConstyXIV, never mind, i didn't read it
[10:08] <eboyjr> im using windows xp inside virtualbox in ubuntu. when i try to play a sound inside windows i dont hear anything. y is this happening?
[10:08] <jowi> eboyjr: you should ask in a virtualbox channel
[10:08] <jowi> !virtualbox
[10:08] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[10:08] <ConstyXIV> eboyjr: i'd read the virtualbox docs, you probably have to install some drivers in the VM
[10:09] <Ashfire908> ConstyXIV, thanks a bunch though
[10:09] <thinh> exit
[10:10] <softwork> ^^
[10:10] <HugLeo> eboyjr: do you select in settings/sound alsa driver?
[10:10] <CaptainFrisbee> LeChacal, could the bad performance you get have something todo with dma?
[10:10] <crashsystems> Does anyone know of a way to find an unlisted Tor entrance node?
[10:11] <LeChacal> CaptainFrisbee:i am sorry but i have never heard of  dma so i dont know
[10:12] <saldot> anyone here?
[10:12] <h00s> how to change keyboard layout (keymap) in ubuntu-server 7.04? no x installed
[10:12] <slabby> Hi ive just installed the nvidia drivers through System -> Administration -> Restricted Devices manager (as described by https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia). Im on Feisty and running a GeForce2 Integrated GPU, which is on the list of supported cards
[10:13] <CaptainFrisbee> LeChacal, the slow harddrive is an external fat32 device?
[10:13] <slabby> Hi ive just installed the nvidia drivers through System -> Administration -> Restricted Devices manager (as described by https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia). Im on Feisty and running a GeForce2 Integrated GPU, which is on the list of supported cards. After the ubuntu loading screen I just get a black screen with cursor in middle
[10:13] <LeChacal> CaptainFrisbee: no internal IDE
[10:13] <Roey> hi
[10:14] <Roey> anyone here?
[10:14] <Music_Shuffle> !hi | Roey
[10:14] <ubotu> Roey: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:14] <Roey> hey Music_Shuffle
[10:14] <Roey> ok
[10:14] <ben__> whenever i log on to firefox and type somthing the program exits
[10:14] <jowi> !locale | h00s
[10:14] <ubotu> h00s: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[10:14] <Roey> Since installing Ubuntu this morning I found that my mouse wheel only scrolls when the pointer hovers on the scrollbar itself.  Any ideas on how to fix it?
[10:14] <ben__> can somone help?
[10:15] <saldot> is it possible to "lock" my usb keybord to a sertain event in /dev/input/event# atm it changes every time i boot, and i need it to be on the same event everytime i boot.
[10:15] <dmhouse> Hey all. I want to use the memory card reader built into my laptop, but inserting a memory card doesn't cause anything to happen, as far as I know. `dmesg | tail` does tell me "[20623.132000]  tifm_core: MemoryStick card detected in socket 0:2", though. Any suggestions as to how to mount it?
[10:15] <h00s> jowi: ty
[10:16] <joe4444> anyone know how to get AVN to stay on top all the time even with auto-hide on?  sometimes it will remain on top so when i get a new IM the buddy icon bounces up to let me know (i can see the top 1/3 of the icon as it bounces), but often it is not on top so even though the buddy icon bounces i can't see it b/c it's behind a maximized window
[10:16] <ben__> when i type an adress in firefox the program stops
[10:16] <jowi> h00s: you can also use setxkbmap as an alternative
[10:16] <Roey> joe4444:  AVN as in Adult Video News?
[10:16] <derrik> I'm having trouble streaming video. Audio won't work in Totem, and video doesn't show up in VLC. Any commands out there to force video to show in VLC or audio in totem?
[10:17] <joe4444> avant window navigator =p
[10:17] <CaptainFrisbee> LeChacal, could you pastebin the output of "df -h" ?
[10:17] <jowi> joe4444: i think there is a setting for it in gconf-editor
[10:17] <Cola> How i can update My kernal from net
[10:18] <ConstyXIV> Cola: Ubuntu updates it for you
[10:18] <Xecuter88> trying to compile anyremote, but i get an error when i run ./configure: configure: error: cannot find install-sh or install.sh in "." "./.." "./../.."        what does that mean?
[10:18] <joe4444> jowi: any idea what i should search for?  also, would it have any effect if i'm using Beryl (required by AVN i think, but i'd use it anyway)?
[10:18] <Roey> is Joe Vivirito on here?
[10:18] <Lucios> Cola: try use apt-get update and then upgarde
[10:18] <Cola> OOOOOOK
[10:19] <jowi> joe4444: /apps/avant-window-navigator. i just checked though. i was mistaken. it should always be on top....
[10:19] <derrik> I'm having trouble streaming video. Audio won't work in Totem, and video doesn't show up in VLC. Any commands out there to force video to show in VLC or audio in totem?
[10:19] <LeChacal> CaptainFrisbee: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31721/
[10:19] <joe4444> jowi: so it's probably just a bug?
[10:19] <HugLeo> derrik: use mplayer
[10:19] <ConstyXIV> derrik: have you installed any codecs?
[10:19] <jowi> joe4444: which window manager are you using? with beryl you can force. not sure about metacity (default for gnome)
[10:20] <joe4444> i can't figure out when it stays on top and when it doesn't, but more often than not it doesn't stay on top
[10:20] <joe4444> jowi: emerald
[10:20] <jowi> joe4444: wait, i check my settings on the other computer
[10:20] <joe4444> k, thanks
[10:21] <CaptainFrisbee> LeChacal, can you access the fat32 volume right now? (is it mounted?)
[10:21] <zerokill88> is there a LAMP package you can install after installing Feisty?
[10:21] <RickH> I need some help with networking.  I have one Ubuntu machine with 2 ethernet cards.  One's connected to cable modem.  The other to a hub.  I have a laptop I want to connect to the hub and share the internet connection.  How do I proceed?
[10:21] <Xecuter88> trying to compile anyremote, but i get an error when i run ./configure: configure: error: cannot find install-sh or install.sh in "." "./.." "./../.."        what does that mean?
[10:21] <guest02> Hi every one
[10:21] <joe4444> jowi: i meant my window manager is Beryl... window decorator is Emerald
[10:22] <LeChacal> CaptainFrisbee: no it is unplugged
[10:22] <ConstyXIV> zerokill88: sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[10:22] <slabby> Hi ive just installed the nvidia drivers through System -> Administration -> Restricted Devices manager (as described by https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia). Im on Feisty and running a GeForce2 Integrated GPU, which is on the list of supported cards. After the ubuntu loading screen I just get a black screen with cursor in middle
[10:22] <CaptainMorgan> !distro
[10:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about distro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:22] <CaptainMorgan> !update
[10:22] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:22] <zerokill88> constyxiv thanks
[10:22] <CaptainMorgan> new release any time soon ?
[10:22] <nickrud> !lamp | zerokill88
[10:22] <ubotu> zerokill88: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[10:22] <howlingmadhowie> RickH: you need a masquerading rule in your iptables :)
[10:22] <RickH> slabby:  type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and see if going through that doesn't fix it.
[10:22] <ConstyXIV> CaptainMorgan: october
[10:22] <Lucios> RickH: u mean share to laptop?
[10:22] <RickH> howlingmadhowie: I can accept that.
[10:22] <slabby> rickH, thanks
[10:23] <RickH> Lucios: Yes.
[10:23] <krammer> hi
[10:23] <RickH> Lucios: So laptop uses the other machine's internet connection
[10:23] <RickH> howlingmadhowie: Is there a FAQ?  Or do I google?
[10:23] <tom_> <zerokill88: LAMP = Linux; Apache; MySQL; PHP { Perl, Python}
[10:23] <howlingmadhowie> RickH: google for iptables + masquerade
[10:23] <zerokill88> constyxiv what in the world is tasksel
[10:23] <ConstyXIV> CaptainMorgan: it's always april and october, unless announced otherwise
[10:23] <zerokill88> tom_ yes i know, instead of isntalling them seperately i thought there was a lamp package
[10:23] <Lucios> RickH: go to iptables guru
[10:24] <krammer> anybody good with webcam for ubutunu??
[10:24] <CaptainMorgan> ConstyXIV, Fiesty doesn't even have the documentation it should yet...
[10:24] <ConstyXIV> zerokill88: it's a tool ubuntu uses, usually at installation to install a whole lot of packages
[10:24] <CaptainFrisbee> LeChacal, well you can test if dma is enabled for the external volume with: sudo hdparm -d [device] 
[10:24] <RickH> Lucios: "iptables guru"?
[10:24] <derrik> ConstyXIV: I believe I have all the codecs
[10:24] <ConstyXIV> zerokill88: basically, tasksel runs a bunch of apt-gets and etc. for you
[10:24] <jowi> joe4444: i understood you. i'm not using gnome so i don't know if it is possible to do this. I noticed the same thing though and it took me awhile to remember what i did. i set a "sleep 2" in my startup script before avn is launched. didn't find option for it in beryl...
[10:24] <CaptainFrisbee> LeChacal, this might explain the sluggish performance you get
[10:25] <RickH> Does this look right?  http://www.billauer.co.il/ipmasq-html.html
[10:25] <DM|>  Anyone else find the new compiz update broke it?
[10:25] <zerokill88> constyxiv ah i see, im at the isntalling packages box,a dn it seems to have me waiting for a whyle is this ormal?
[10:25] <RickH> Step 4 seems to be what I want, though without Windows. :)
[10:25] <Lucios> RickH: http://www.linuxguruz.com/iptables/
[10:25] <jowi> joe4444: if you use gnome maybe you can use your session manager to set a sleep/delay before avn is launched.
[10:25] <joe4444> jowi: did the "sleep 2" thing fix it?  if so, where do i put that?
[10:25] <Bsims> Hrm I downgraded pretty much everything lets see if this works
[10:25] <ConstyXIV> zerokill88: yeah, give it time
[10:25] <zerokill88> constyxiv k
[10:25] <krammer> hi
[10:25] <Lucios> RickH: got example
[10:25] <RickH> Lucios: Okay, I didn't know what you meant...  sorry.
[10:26] <Lucios> RickH: it's ok
[10:26] <b4l74z4r> i can't get flash working in opera on ubuntu feisty
[10:26] <Bsims> How do I find and download older versions of packages besides using force version?
[10:26] <howlingmadhowie> RickH: oo, that's complicated enough :) i'd suggest http://olympus.het.brown.edu/cgi-bin/dwww?type=file&location=/usr/share/doc/newbiedoc/newbiedoc-html/homegateway/ipmasqsettings.html
[10:26] <Cola> How I can find xchat in ubuntu version 6.06
[10:26] <Bsims> Cola: apt-get install xchat
[10:26] <jowi> joe4444: if you use gnome you should use gnome session manager if you can. i don't use gnome so my .xsession file has simply a "sleep 2" line before "avant-window-navigator &"
[10:26] <Lucios> b4l74z4r: try download at adobe..flash player
[10:26] <Puppy_> Does anyone know if i can request something to be added to the repositories?
[10:26] <RickH> howlingmadhowie:  Thanks
[10:27] <krammer> I would like to get my webcam started any help??
[10:27] <ConstyXIV> b4l74z4r: copy libflashplayer.so from the flash download on adobe's site to /usr/lib/opera/plugins (i think)
[10:27] <jowi> joe4444: i run beryl stand-alone.
[10:27] <b4l74z4r> Lucios: i have tried both from adobe and thru add/remove
[10:27] <Cola> Bsims: it give me Couldn't find xChat
[10:27] <b4l74z4r> it only works in firefox
[10:27] <b4l74z4r> ConstyXIV: ok thanks
[10:27] <jowi> joe4444: probably a bug in either avn or beryl i would say. but the sleep fixed it for me.
[10:27] <m_> do anyone know where i can learn how to use compiz?
[10:27] <joe4444> jowi: the session manager only allows me to specify a command... should i just do "sleep 2; avant-window-manager" ?
[10:28] <ConstyXIV> m_: /join #ubuntu-effects
[10:28] <jowi> joe4444: you can always try. i'm no good with gnome.
[10:28] <howlingmadhowie> RickH: the one line you need is "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE " assuming eth0 is your external interface
[10:28] <Lucios> b4l74z4r: try what ConstyXIV said
[10:28] <joe4444> jowi: ok i'll see if that helps... thanks for the tip
[10:28] <jowi> no joe4444
[10:28] <krammer> I would like to get my webcam started any help??
[10:28] <LeChacal> CaptainFrisbee: it says there is no such file or directory
[10:28] <jowi> np joe4444
[10:28] <zerokill88> constyxiv hey once installed,where ar they located, or how do i set them up?
[10:28] <Bsims_> Hrm interesting seems ktorrent is making my connection restart
[10:29] <RickH> howlingmadhowie:  I'm looking that over.  Here's another question.  I have a router, but I haven't been able to get Ubuntu to talk to it properly.
[10:29] <RickH> howlingmadhowie:  Where can I get help with that?
[10:29] <Bsims_> I tried downgrading everything I upgraded before this problem...
[10:29] <shelia_> does anyone in here know about the ubuntu server?
[10:29] <LeChacal> CaptainFrisbee: and i have tried all the different ways i know of calling up the drive
[10:29] <RickH> shelia_: It's like the desktop version, but with some server packages auto-installed and no graphical desktop.
[10:29] <Catsceo> shelia_: whats up?
[10:29] <Bsims_> How can I download older versions of upgraded packages, besides telling to force version?
[10:29] <jowi> shelia_: you need to ask a specific question. ubuntu server can be set up in many many ways
[10:29] <CaptainFrisbee> LeChacal, is it plugged in right now?
[10:29] <Cola> Bsims: Can I find xChat after upgrade ?
[10:30] <howlingmadhowie> RickH: then you just have to configure static ip-addresses for the internal net, set up dns in resolv.conf and add a rule to the routing table of your laptop ( route add default gw <internal ip address of your computer with an internet connection> )
[10:30] <Bsims_> Cola: try "sudo apt-get install xchat" all lower case
[10:30] <LeChacal> CaptainFrisbee: yes
[10:30] <shelia_> ok rick, I have another question
[10:30] <krammer> I would like to get my webcam started any help??
[10:30] <LeChacal> CaptainFrisbee: and i have it mounted
[10:30] <Cola> Bsims: Ok hung On :)
[10:30] <howlingmadhowie> RickH: what do you mean by talk to the router properly?
[10:30] <RickH> howlingmadhowie:  Is there a book I can buy on this stuff?  Or can you recommend one?
[10:30] <Bsims_> krammer: what app are you trying to use?
[10:30] <CaptainFrisbee> LeChacal, and the hdparm command doesn't work?
[10:31] <Catsceo> !webcam > krammer
[10:31] <Lucios> RickH: cannot view setting in router?
[10:31] <howlingmadhowie> RickH: i wouldn't bother buying a book on iptables, unless you want to become a sysadmin
[10:31] <RickH> howlingmadhowie:  It communicates with the router.  When I go to its internal IP I get the built-in screen.
[10:31] <krammer> i installed a few but after install i cannot find them
[10:31] <krammer> newbie here
[10:31] <RickH> howlingmadhowie:  I can view settings in router.
[10:31] <howlingmadhowie> RickH: then you have to enter a password or similar?
[10:31] <Bsims_> I just want my eth0 to stop restarting itself
[10:31] <RickH> howlingmadhowie:  But, when I type "www.google.com" in a browser, for example, it just sits there forever.
[10:31] <RickH> howlingmadhowie:  Hooking the cable modem back up to the machine and it works immediately.
[10:31] <locke> Is there an easier way to make the login for gnome look like a terminal login besides making a theme for GDM?
[10:31] <howlingmadhowie> RickH: sounds like a dns problem
[10:31] <imbecile> i added new repos.. how do i update my sources in terminal?
[10:31] <zerokill88> Does anyone know where tasksel installs what you downloaded?
[10:31] <eboyjr> What's the bestest way to share files with my VirtualBox Windows XP Pro from Ubuntu 7.04? I'm the only one in #virtualbox
[10:31] <krammer> i have a acer 5670 laptop
[10:31] <Lucios> krammer: try locate<filename>
[10:32] <krammer> tried that
[10:32] <jowi> krammer: to find what files a package have on your system type "dpkg -L packagename"
[10:32] <RickH> howlingmadhowie:  :(  I figured.  But, I'm not skilled enough to resolve it.
[10:32] <howlingmadhowie> RickH: what do you have in "/etc/resolv.conf" ?
[10:32] <krammer> ill search now
[10:32] <RickH> howlingmadhowie:  [checking] 
[10:32] <krammer> no
[10:32] <LeChacal> CaptainFrisbee: no it  dosnt work
[10:32] <b4l74z4r> where do i find libflashplayer?
[10:32] <shelia_> howlingmadhowie, I am new to ubuntu and  am having trouble with a file that is downloaded. Can u help?
[10:33] <krammer> i typed webcam in the package manager then installed
[10:33] <n2diy> RickH: Here is an online book, it is Red Hat oriented, but 95% applies here too: http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.gz
[10:33] <RickH> howlingmadhowie:  search and two nameserver entries with the IPs I originally setup for my cable modem.  I don't know where the search url came from.  It doesn't look familiar to me.
[10:33] <niuq> what is the different between beryl and compiz-fusion?
[10:33] <eboyjr> What's the easiest way to share files with my VirtualBox Windows XP Pro from Ubuntu 7.04? I'm the only one in #virtualbox
[10:33] <Lucios> shelia_:what do you mean by download?
[10:33] <howlingmadhowie> shelia_: i'm a bit busy atm. what sort of file is it?
[10:33] <locke> Is there an easier way to make the login for gnome look like a terminal login besides making a theme for GDM? Perhaps a different login manager or something, or a theme already based on this for GDM?
[10:33] <eboyjr> niuq: They are different windows managers.
[10:33] <jowi> RickH: do you get googles home page if you enter 216.239.59.99 in a browser?
[10:34] <eboyjr> niuq: Beryl is older though. Compiz-fusion is newer
[10:34] <caboose_1980> how do you find out how much memory you have?
[10:34] <Bsims_> caboose_1980: free
[10:34] <RickH> jowi:  I'd have to disconnect the current setup and find out.  I do connect directly to the router.  Pinging various websites timed out also.
[10:34] <eboyjr> What's the easiest way to share files with my VirtualBox Windows XP Pro from Ubuntu 7.04? I'm the only one in #virtualbox
[10:34] <caboose_1980> not the price, how do you
[10:34] <niuq> eboyjr: which one of both it is more stable?
[10:34] <n2diy> caboose_1980: top is one way.
[10:34] <RickH> Let me try that and I'll be back in a bit.
[10:34] <IceLink> hey there
[10:34] <minerale> caboose_1980: also top will tell you
[10:34] <locke> caboose_1980: free
[10:34] <howlingmadhowie> RickH: timing out suggests that the routing table is okay, but the dns isn't right
[10:34] <shelia_> Lucious  I have limewire 4.14 loaded in my file however I can't get it to work
[10:34] <caboose_1980> wtf?
[10:34] <IceLink> does beryl require composite?
[10:34] <Bsims_> Ok I got a wierd bug, ktorrent makes my eth0 restart fairly frequently... any ideas
[10:35] <locke> caboose_1980: go to terminal and type free -m
[10:35] <howlingmadhowie> caboose_1980: free -m
[10:35] <Bsims_> caboose_1980: type free into a terminal
[10:35] <jowi> RickH: sounds like DNS to me as well. either add your routers ip to /etc/resolv.conf or enter the correct DNS numbers manually in there.
[10:35] <CaptainFrisbee> LeChacal, What was the exact command you used?
[10:35] <Lucios> shelia_: u want download file using limewire?
[10:35] <RickH> jowi:  My router's IP is the internal number, 192.168.x.x ?
[10:35] <RickH> If it's that simple I'll be a little upset. :P
[10:35] <shelia_> I have already installed it, but it will not work
[10:35] <howlingmadhowie> RickH: don't worry, you can tell us internal ip-addresses :)
[10:35] <Lucios> RickH: yes..usually
[10:36] <niuq> which one of both it is more stable, beryl or compiz- fusion?
[10:36] <bruenig> RickH, wget -q whatismyip.com -O- | sed 's|<| |g' | awk '/TITLE>What/ {print $3}'
[10:36] <RickH> howlingmadhowie:  I know, but I'm not sure what it is. :)
[10:36] <zerokill88> How would i connect to my apache server on my other computer?
[10:36] <locke> How can i make the gnome login look like a terminal login?
[10:36] <jowi> RickH: yes. but try 216.239.59.99 first of all since it is a public ip address (as opposed to your routers ip which is on the lan)
[10:36] <RickH> jowi: Okay, thanks.  I'll be back in a bit.
[10:36] <lethologica> I am going to go purchase an internal wireless card for my computer, what works best with ubuntu? (Something that works well with the wireless crackers could be fun too)
[10:36] <howlingmadhowie> bruenig: nice :)
[10:36] <Lucios> shelia_: can u run that app?
[10:37] <eboyjr> niuq: Beryl is quite stable, but compiz-fusion is bleeding edge.
[10:37] <Hali_304> I'm using feisty and flash9 in firefox stopped working. what should I check? previously it has been working superb. maybe I've installed some package that breaked it?!
[10:37] <LeChacal> CaptainFrisbee: sudo hdparm -d LOCAL\ DISK
[10:37] <Lucios> shelia_: maybe need to make port forward at router/modem
[10:37] <shelia_> it will bring that page up but it won't start al all
[10:37] <niuq> eboyjr: i have been having troubles with Beryl, that why i am wondering
[10:37] <tom_> <locke: The older method prior to the GDM was a boot to the command line. { startx } was the script that loaded X
[10:37] <LeChacal> CaptainFrisbee: i have to reboot my pc is to sluggish to use
[10:37] <howlingmadhowie> bruenig: i particularly like your use of the pipe symbol to seperate fields in a sed replacement command :) very classy :)
[10:38] <Lucios> shelia_: u can run the app..but cannot use..??
[10:38] <shelia_> yes
[10:38] <locke> hm, thanks tom_ ill look into that
[10:38] <niuq> eboyjr: and i am not really sure, what are requirements for compiz-fusion
[10:38] <Hali_304> sorry, it's not flash9 that is not working, it's SOUND in flash9 that is not working any more :(
[10:38] <Lucios> shelia_: try reinstall
[10:38] <LeChacal> CaptainFrisbee: and i am think of just reloading ubuntu because i think i have messed up some other stuff
[10:38] <shelia_> I have already done that and i still can't get it to work
[10:39] <bruenig> howlingmadhowie, I go back and forth, I am very inconsistent, sometimes even in the same script, I will read back and realize that I have used / and |, my brain is odd
[10:39] <howlingmadhowie> Hali_304: i've never heard of that happening. sound works apart from flash in firefox?
[10:39] <locke> tom_:  is there any way  to see the current startx that runs from GDM so i can use that?
[10:39] <Hali_304> howlingmadhowie:  i've just cheked that I have only flash7 not flash9 :/
[10:39] <Hali_304> howlingmadhowie: sure
[10:39] <shelia_> I have tried to remove that but it says that it can't find that file
[10:39] <Lucios> shelia_: u install from source or apt-get?
[10:40] <CaptainFrisbee> LeChacal, you have to enter to correct device for the hdparm command: for example hdparm -d /dev/hda
[10:40] <eboyjr> niuq: Compiz-fusion works on most graphics card out today... I will Google the requirements.
[10:40] <howlingmadhowie> bruenig: it just took me a while to read it, because i was reading it as a pipe :) have a look at this: http://www.thc.org/root/phun/unmaintain.html
[10:40] <Hali_304> howlingmadhowie: this is very strange, flash9 has been out for a while, I think feisty should have flash9
[10:40] <shelia_> it was already installed by someone else who said I would not have a problem with it
[10:40] <Lucios> shelia_: ic..
[10:40] <LeChacal> i tried that way of calling up the drive also but it gave me the same error
[10:41] <niuq> eboyjr: ok thank you ^_^
[10:41] <bruenig> howlingmadhowie, pipes are actually better for sed because you don't have to escape / when you use them
[10:41] <howlingmadhowie> Hali_304: it must have been released after 04/07. ubuntu likes to keep distributions very stable
[10:41] <b4l74z4r> i found libflashplayer in the .mozilla directory but when i right click it and choose copy and go to the opera directory, the paste option is greyed out
[10:41] <zerokill88> If i set up my ubuntu to be remotely accessed how do i set it up to always allow a user to view it?
[10:41] <tom_> <locke Take a look in /etc/
[10:41] <Lucios> shelia_: dont have idea
[10:41] <bruenig> howlingmadhowie, but sometimes it won't work with pipes, sed is very fickle
[10:41] <howlingmadhowie> bruenig: seeing as i'm using an international keyboard, i like using  :)
[10:41] <shelia_> ok thnx anyway
[10:41] <slabby> rickH, I have reconfigured xorg manually and it has now loaded into ubuntu, but menu's and somethings are not loading correctly, such as buttons do not appear until the mouse is over them. Do I just need to experiment with Xorg?
[10:41] <ubuntu_> anyone know a company that makes third party drivers for ubuntu?
[10:42] <shmeebegek> hey, anyone around?
[10:42] <howlingmadhowie> Hali_304: best to download the most recent flash and then add it manually
[10:42] <slabby> shmeebegek, no
[10:42] <Lucios> shelia_: i running fedora right now..cannot test it... bad for me
[10:42] <shmeebegek> :)
[10:42] <ubuntu_> lol
[10:42] <shmeebegek> I just installed ubuntu, and the wireless "seems" to work.. in that it sees my wireless network
[10:42] <CaptainFrisbee> LeChacal, could you pastebin the output of: mount
[10:42] <jowi> b4l74z4r: you probably do not have write permissions for that opera directory then. most system directories are write protected. if you need to copy a file to such a place it's easiest to open a terminal and "sudo cp directory/file /usr/the/directory/i/wantto/copy/to/"
[10:42] <rafaelscj> My PS/2 mouse don't work on X... I changed the protocols to "IMPS/2", "PS/2". help me
[10:42] <shmeebegek> however, when I click to connect it just says there's 0% connectivity and that my IP is 0.0.0.0
[10:42] <shelia_> that's too bad maybe some other time
[10:43] <RickH> I'm on the router!  It was just the DNS.  Thanks guys! :)
[10:43] <b4l74z4r> jowi: ok, thanks i'll give it a try
[10:43] <shmeebegek> I am online via the same network (wired) right now
[10:43] <Ashfire908> ConstyXIV, Xming doesn't work
[10:43] <Fle_> Hello
[10:43] <slabby> rickH, I have reconfigured xorg manually and it has now loaded into ubuntu, but menu's and somethings are not loading correctly, such as buttons do not appear until the mouse is over them. Do I just need to experiment with Xorg?
[10:43] <ubuntu_> hi
[10:43] <Hali_304> howlingmadhowie: heh.. I've just checked and flash is not even installed as a package on my machine.. I guess firefox downloaded an old flash7 for me automatically or sg like that
[10:44] <Ashfire908> ConstyXIV, I tested XDMCP on another computer using livecd, and it worked
[10:44] <RickH> slabby:  Not sure about that.  You could try re-installing your gnome-desktop.  Or, now that you've gotten it working, go to Nvidia's website and download the latest driver and install it.
[10:44] <Fle_> Oooh flash talk.
[10:44] <LeChacal> CaptainFrisbee: what do you mean like sudo mount /dev/hda1
[10:44] <RickH> slabby:  I have an 8800 GTX and that was my only remedy, apart from using VESA.
[10:44] <RickH> slabby:  And, that's something to consider.  You can use VESA and it will work.
[10:44] <Ashfire908> Is there another windows XDMCP client other than Xming?
[10:44] <RickH> slabby:  It will just be slow.
[10:44] <CaptainFrisbee> LeChacal, no just the output of mount without any parameters
[10:44] <slabby> rickh, hmm
[10:44] <Lucios> shelia_: u can try apt-get remove limewire
[10:45] <Bsims__> Gods curse this to the lower regions of Hell... My eth0 is stoping and restarting itself anyone have the slightest clue what it could be?
[10:45] <slabby> rickh, i only need enough to be able to setup my et server
[10:45] <RickH> slabby:  Then go VESA.  Do the dpkg-reconfigure command again, and then choose the VESA driver when it asks you.
[10:45] <rafaelscj> how can I upgrade 6.06 to 7.04 using a CD?
[10:45] <RickH> slabby:  That one is more than sufficient.
[10:45] <slabby> rickh, ok thanks
[10:45] <Fle_> Is it possible to install gcc on Ubuntu?
[10:45] <RickH> howlingmadhowie:  Thanks for your help.  It's working now.
[10:45] <howlingmadhowie> bruenig: a pity. you can't use  as a field separator in sed. looks like it has to be a non-alpha-numerik ascii symbol :(
[10:45] <RickH> jowi: Thanks for your help!
[10:45] <howlingmadhowie> RickH: cool :)
[10:45] <jowi> Bsims_: it could be a kernel prob. try a different (older usually) version of the kernel.
[10:46] <Lucios> Fle_: yes
[10:46] <jowi> you're welcome RickH
[10:46] <howlingmadhowie> RickH: did you want to configure the internal net to allow masquerading?
[10:46] <RickH> It was just the DNS. :(  I spent a couple hours on it the other day.  Your help made it work.  Thanks again.
[10:46] <Ashfire908> Is there another windows XDMCP client other than Xming?
[10:46] <shelia_> how do I do that Lucios I am computer iler
[10:46] <RickH> howlingmadhowie: I can hook my notebook into the router, right?
[10:46] <RickH> howlingmadhowie:  I think that's the best way.
[10:46] <shelia_> sorry let's try that again
[10:46] <Fle_> Lucios, also can I host a MySQL database?  Do you know of any resources where I can read up on it?
[10:46] <Lucios> shelia_: ok
[10:46] <howlingmadhowie> RickH: yeah, of course.
[10:47] <Music_Shuffle> ?_?
[10:47] <RickH> howlingmadhowie:  Yup.  That's my plan.
[10:47] <RickH> howlingmadhowie:  Trying now.  Stay close. hehehe j/k :)
[10:47] <Lucios> Fle_: the OS come with c compiler already
[10:47] <shelia_> I am a computer dummy if you know what I mean I am very familiar with windows but not ubuntu
[10:47] <dem0n> hello i have a question how do i know if i am under a network proxie?
[10:47] <Fle_> What about the libraries?
[10:47] <dem0n> proxy**
[10:47] <Lucios> Fle_: but if u need the latest..just update
[10:47] <jowi> Bsims_: it could also be a problem with dhcp server if you have a router. try setting a static ip address or change port on the router.
[10:47] <eboyjr> niuq: What was going wrong with Beryl?
[10:47] <howlingmadhowie> RickH: i only use masquerading when i'm at a friends house because she hasn't got a router, just a direct ethernet connection in the wall (it's a student dorm) fortunately she uses linux :)
[10:47] <shelia_> how do I get rid of limewire like you suggested?
[10:47] <Fle_> Im an ex-Fedora user due to my crappy video card.
[10:47] <Fle_> Ubuntu is very different.
[10:48] <Lucios> shelia_: ic..
[10:48] <Roey> Hi, I get the following message:  "You have a Logitech Mouse connected, and libusb was found at compile time, but it was not possible to access this mouse.  This is probably caused by a permissions problem - you should consult the manual on how to fix this"   <-- how do I fix this?
[10:48] <tom_> locke: maybe more specifically  {   /etc/init.d/gdm }
[10:48] <NETWIzz> How is Ubuntu so different?
[10:48] <Lucios> Fle_: ubuntu not different like fedora
[10:48] <dem0n> How do i figure out if i am under a proxie or not?
[10:48] <Roey> NETWIzz:  it comes with its own stupid little quirks.
[10:48] <howlingmadhowie> Fle_: s/yum/apt/g :)
[10:48] <locke> tom_: k
[10:48] <Roey> NETWIzz:  it lets you exchange one set of quirks (Fedora's) for another (Ubuntu)
[10:48] <NETWIzz> Please elaborate for me, Roey
[10:48] <b4l74z4r> when i'm entering a path, should i include the "." in front of the folder name?
[10:48] <Fle_> I cant describe it exactly.
[10:48] <RickH> howlingmadhowie:  Sweet!
[10:48] <niuq> eboyjr: not really sure, i am just working or doing what ever, and suddenly get stuck, and i cannot do anything besides turn it off
[10:48] <NETWIzz> Name a quirk
[10:48] <Fle_> The main thing is sudo.
[10:49] <Fle_> I hate that I cant log in as root.
[10:49] <Lucios> Fle_: just specific command..that different
[10:49] <NETWIzz> Oh that
[10:49] <NETWIzz> You can
[10:49] <howlingmadhowie> RickH: everything works? cool :)
[10:49] <NETWIzz> sudo -i
[10:49] <sauvin> I do it with sudo -s
[10:49] <aldren> C
[10:49] <NETWIzz> or sudo passwd
[10:49] <NETWIzz> to set the root password
[10:49] <Lucios> Fle: try sudo su -
[10:49] <NETWIzz> then su
[10:49] <dem0n> HELLO
[10:49] <Fle_> Well see, I'm a rookie developer so when you change up stuff on me like that... I have a hell of a time trying to port in my programs.
[10:49] <Lucios> Fle_: fill ur password
[10:49] <NETWIzz> I configure the root account
[10:49] <jowi> NETWIzz: the community would be my vote. all systems have issues. but ubuntus wiki/help/irc is very good (read: friendly) places to search for solutions on.
[10:49] <NETWIzz> that way it is possible to login as single user if necessary
[10:49] <eboyjr> niuq: I can't find a good page for the requirements, but that freezing could just be a bug for Beryl.
[10:50] <NETWIzz> Agreed
[10:50] <RickH> howlingmadhowie:  I'm going to reinstall Ubuntu.  I had installed Ubuntu CE, but don't like the subtle differenes in the desktop.  Or, can I just re-install Gnome-desktop and fix it?
[10:50] <NETWIzz> I am upgrading Ubuntu to version 6.10 right now
[10:50] <NETWIzz> Last night I was upgrading to 7.04
[10:50] <niuq> eboyjr: and how could i handle that bug?
[10:50] <NETWIzz> The upgrade failed
[10:50] <locke> tom_: so if i don't want gdm to run on startup, i would change { /etc/X11/default-display-manager } ? but what would i change it to to run terminal, gnome-terminal, or nothing?
[10:50] <NETWIzz> because my laptop lost power
[10:50] <dem0n> howlingmadhowie: how do i figure out if im on a proxy
[10:50] <ubuntu_> anyone know how to log into root via a live cd with default setup?
[10:50] <Roey> NETWIzz:  ok, how about this:  (1) My dell 2405FPW monitor's resolution is not detected correctly.  It /should/ be set to 1920x1200, but the X resolution detector comes broken and sets it to 1600x1200.  (2) I can't hear sound from my digital-out on my on-board sound card; (3) the mouse wheel scrolls only when the pointer hovers over the scrollbar itself (not really handy ;P); (4) the nvidia driver module gets clobbered (i.
[10:50] <Roey> e. deleted) every time I reboot, forcing me to apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-lowlatency and modprobe nvidia before I start X; (5) I get the following message in KDE
[10:50] <ubuntu_> btw i have ubuntu ver 5.10
[10:51] <niuq> eboyjr: maybe i can try with compiz-fusion, is over the apt-manager isn't it?
[10:51] <dem0n> ?
[10:51] <NETWIzz> You may wish to upgrade
[10:51] <howlingmadhowie> RickH: i imagine the differences are little more than the settings in .gconf and .gnome in your $HOME directory. however, i don't know (I'm a died-in-the-wool atheist myself *g*)
[10:51] <shelia_> Lucios, how do I get rid of the limewire file as you suggested with the apt. remove
[10:51] <NETWIzz> I mean you are not supported ubuntu_
[10:51] <Roey> "You have a Logitech Mouse connected, and libusb was found at compile time, but it was not possible to access this mouse.  This is probably caused by a permissions problem - you should consult the manual on how to fix this"
[10:51] <Roey> like, seriously, what the fuck is this?
[10:51] <PriceChild> ubuntu_, breezy has reached end of life and is no longer supported. Please update
[10:51] <PriceChild> !ohmy | Roey
[10:51] <ubotu> Roey: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:51] <ubuntu_> ?
[10:51] <Roey> PriceChild:  hi
[10:51] <dem0n> why dose no one awnser me?
[10:51] <Roey> PriceChild:  how are you doing, tbw :)
[10:51] <Roey> dem0n:  what's the problem?
[10:51] <RickH> howlingmadhowie:  I used to be that way.  Then I found the truth. :)
[10:51] <NETWIzz> I have to restart
[10:51] <ubuntu_> yes u have told me pricechild
[10:51] <howlingmadhowie> dem0n: i'm afraid i've never had direct contact with a proxy
[10:52] <ubuntu_> but it will take 4 wks to ship
[10:52] <Fle_> Ok, I see that I have gcc, where can I download the necessary libraries? ie.... stdlib.h
[10:52] <Lucios> shelia_: search limewire using sudo apt-cache search limewire
[10:52] <dem0n> roey how do i figure out if i am proxyed or not?
[10:52] <aarcane> when I plug in my camera, and I'm importing images...
[10:52] <aarcane> what program is that ?
[10:52] <PriceChild> dem0n, ask your network adminitrator.
[10:52] <howlingmadhowie> RickH: oh boy. let's stop this topic before we get really off-topic
[10:52] <dem0n> i am my network administrator im makeing sure the proxy is working right
[10:52] <eboyjr> niuq: You can't file a bug report for Beryl since it's discontinued but you can install compiz-fusion by reading this page: http://osnovice.blogspot.com/2007/07/how-to-install-compiz-fusion.html
[10:52] <hugifrb> use somebody here a macbook with ubuntu?
[10:52] <RickH> howlingmadhowie:  Okay. :)
[10:52] <NETWIzz> you can check another computer on your network
[10:52] <NETWIzz> Check to see if another computer is setup to use a proxy
[10:52] <NETWIzz> if so, get the settings
[10:53] <dem0n> i only have 1 box in my network
[10:53] <shelia_> should I use my terminal to do that?
[10:53] <Roey> dem0n:  well in Konqueror or what?
[10:53] <RickH> howlingmadhowie:  join #rickh ??
[10:53] <niuq> eboyjr: i did not know it was that old
[10:53] <dem0n> gnome
[10:53] <jowi> dem0n: check the webbrowser to see if there are any proxy settings there. "ifconfig" can also give clues.
[10:53] <Roey> PriceChild:  could you help me with a few issues here, please?
[10:53] <Roey> dem0n:  oh, that I don't know
[10:53] <aarcane> when I plug in my camera, and I'm importing images...  what program is that ?
[10:53] <dem0n> hmm
[10:53] <howlingmadhowie> RickH: well, if you wish...
[10:53] <Lucios> shelia_: i familiar using aries only
[10:53] <PriceChild> Roey, I answer questions if I can help.
[10:53] <SoulRaven> i have a cacti problem.......please help
[10:53] <NETWIzz> be back shortly
[10:54] <ZmaX> Hi all. I would have that program which shows a little bluetooth icon with some features: how can I do???
[10:54] <jowi> dem0n: you can also tracepath/traceroute
[10:54] <exyan> hi, I've installed beryl, but I can only see the inside of my windows, there are no decorations at all Oo
[10:54] <shelia_> my terminal is my command center I tell it what to do just want to make sure that is where I need to go
[10:54] <dem0n> jowi how?
[10:54] <SoulRaven> i have a cacti problem.......please help
[10:54] <[PM] Hate> hello
[10:55] <riddlebox> can I setup my ubuntu box, to email me when certain events happen?
[10:55] <jowi> dem0n: tracepath www.google.com will show the connections.
[10:55] <ZmaX> Hi all. I would have that program which shows a little bluetooth icon with some features: how can I do???
[10:55] <Lucios> sheila_: found usefull for u
[10:55] <SoulRaven> i have a cacti problem.......please help......the snmpd is work fine, but cacti is not read info for the interface...like eth0
[10:55] <CaptainFrisbee> exyan, if possible you should try to upgrade to compiz-fusion, which has much less issues
[10:56] <shelia_> Lucios, will it work?
[10:56] <TtyS2> is there a version of linux with text only, no gui?
[10:56] <Lucios> sheila_: check this > http://pastebin.com/m1a837968
[10:56] <jowi> dem0n: the most common way for companies to set proxy though is simply to set preconfigured proxy in the webbrowser.
[10:56] <Bsims> Ok Here's the deal, my eth0 is restarting itself... any ideas... there is jack and sh*t in the logs beside eth0 shutdown and eth0 start
[10:56] <ZmaX> Lucios: I would have that program which shows a little bluetooth icon with some features: how can I do???
[10:56] <pchilds> I am having a problem with ubuntu where it may temporarily freeze up so that the cursor wont move or anything work correctly for a second or two. It just did it again while typing this message. It always recovers itself after the freeze. It never lasts long but can become irritating waiting for the recovery.
[10:56] <locke> TtyS2: you can do that with ubuntu if you want
[10:56] <ubuntu_> ttyS2: yes run the live cd with choice of F3
[10:56] <ubuntu_> it has a how to menu
[10:57] <[PM] Hate> ah, my mouse dont work regardless in xubuntu.
[10:57] <jowi> TtyS2: ubunty server installs only the bare minimum.
[10:57] <Lucios> shelia_: i using ares with wine emulator
[10:57] <SoulRaven> i have a cacti problem.......please help......the snmpd is work fine, but cacti is not read info for the interface...like eth0
[10:57] <shelia_> ok I will see what happens
[10:57] <NETWizz> How do I check what version of ubuntu I am running?
[10:57] <TtyS2> ok thanks
[10:57] <tom_> <locke:  My first {guess} would be to make  { /etc/init.d/gdm } not available to init. Change that file to gdm.bak. Load the midnight commander { mc } routine as it is callable from the command line. I believe your password should be ok. NOTE!! no warranties.
[10:58] <Lucios> NETWiZZ: try uname -a
[10:58] <NETWizz> 2.6.20-16
[10:58] <NETWizz> Must be Fiesty
[10:58] <jowi> !server | TtyS2
[10:58] <ubotu> TtyS2: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[10:58] <NETWizz> Anyway I am a little bothered by it all
[10:58] <locke> tom_: i think i just read something that if you disable gdm from the default-display-manager it goes straight to commandline, then gnome can be started with xstart command, right?
[10:58] <NETWizz> I tsaid I was upgrading to 6.10
[10:59] <TtyS2> beauty, thanks
[10:59] <AnRkey> tom_, can mc be used at a text gui directly after boot?
[10:59] <LeoUA> hi2all
[10:59] <_imran_> rumor has it that if you play Microsoft  CDs backwards, you will hear Satanic messages....worse still, if you play them forwards, they will install Windows :)
[11:00] <savetheWorld> s/Satanic/Ballmeric/
[11:00] <ubuntu_> imran lol
[11:00] <caboose_1980> how do i get rid of ubuntu 6.6 lts and get windows XP, i have the cd and everything
[11:00] <troughton> can anyone tell me how to sync a xda orbit with linux ?
[11:00] <[PM] Hate> caboose, have you tried puting the disk in? damn
[11:00] <savetheWorld> caboose_1980: step1 - find a small goat to sacrifice...
[11:00] <ortega10> i'm about to reinstall ubuntu, i've already backed up my docs, and i don't want to keep my configuration; is there any special precaution i should take? (about grub, boot sector, etc)
[11:00] <LeoUA> Guys, how to make code "ifconfig eth0 192.168.254.250 netmask 255.255.0.0
[11:00] <LeoUA> route add default gw 192.168.253.1" running on Ubuntu start?
[11:00] <caboose_1980> yes
[11:00] <jowi> caboose_1980: insert windows cd. for the rest see ##windows
[11:00] <ubuntu_> caboose: run the windows cd and delete the linux partition
[11:01] <jowi> !windows
[11:01] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[11:01] <tom_> <locke: Possibly. I do not know. The default when there is any problem with { X } init drops you down to a login.
[11:01] <NETWizz> How do I install restricted modules
[11:01] <NETWizz> on Fiesty
[11:01] <ubuntu_> jowi: yea i kno
[11:01] <troughton> can anyone tell me how to sync a xda orbit with linux ?
[11:01] <SoulRaven> i have a cacti problem.......please help
[11:01] <SoulRaven> i have a cacti problem.......please help......the snmpd is work fine, but cacti is not read info for the interface...like eth0
[11:01] <ortega10> NETWizz: you can see the restricted modules assistant right there
[11:01] <locke> tom_: would startx run exactly what would normally boot with a gdm login?
[11:01] <NETWizz> how
[11:01] <NETWizz> I clicked on system
[11:02] <ubuntu_> soulraven: how long have you been going on abt the problems?
[11:02] <NETWizz> administration restricted drivers
[11:02] <ortega10> NETWizz: don't you see an icon in your traybar?
[11:02] <NETWizz> is that correct
[11:02] <jowi> locke: usually startx runs what's in ~/.xsession
[11:02] <NETWizz> traybar?
[11:02] <SoulRaven> what?
[11:02] <ubuntu_> nm...lol
[11:02] <ortega10> NETWizz: well traybar, information bar, whatever
[11:02] <Lucios> ubuntu_:?
[11:02] <NETWizz> What does it look like?
[11:02] <locke> jowi: ok, cool, i think my plan will work then :p
[11:02] <ortega10> i'm about to reinstall ubuntu, i've already backed up my docs, and i don't want to keep my configuration; is there any special precaution i should take? (about grub, boot sector, etc)
[11:02] <SoulRaven> ubuntu_: what?
[11:02] <ubuntu_> i would assume by now that a) nobody knows how to solve it or
[11:03] <Lucios> NETWizz: at top
[11:03] <ubuntu_> b) u need to list more details
[11:03] <Ademan> anyone know if ubuntu has access to this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messenger_Service
[11:03] <Ademan> if there's a package that will let me do that
[11:03] <Lucios> ubuntu_: more detail the problem
[11:03] <Ademan> er, do something equivalent
[11:03] <jowi> locke: usually you can have it like this in .xsession: xterm & [new line]  xclock & [new line]  exec windowmanager (whatever you want)
[11:03] <ortega10> Ademan: you can log in to msn messenger with pidgin (formerly gaim)
[11:04] <ortega10> Ademan: or many other instant messaging programs, like ams (which is specific for the msn network)
[11:04] <caboose_1980> how do i get rid of ubuntu 6.6 lts and get windows XP? i have the disk in already
[11:04] <Ademan> ortega10: "Messenger Service is a network-based system notification service included in some versions of Microsoft Windows. This service, although it has a similar name, is not related in any way to the .NET Messenger Service or the Windows Messenger and MSN Messenger/Windows Live Messenger instant messaging clients."    but thanks
[11:04] <caboose_1980> and the windows chat didnt help
[11:04] <PriceChild> caboose_1980, you want to install windows?
[11:04] <ortega10> Ademan: oh i mixed it up with windows messenger
[11:04] <caboose_1980> yes
[11:04] <PriceChild> !windows | caboose_1980
[11:04] <ubotu> caboose_1980: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[11:04] <Ademan> ortega10: :-)   no problem
[11:04] <locke> jowi: well i have it loading what i want from GDM, but i just want to login to terminal rather than GDM for appearance sake
[11:05] <NETWizz> Desktop effects won't enable
[11:05] <NETWizz> why not
[11:05] <tom_> <locke: I have not had occasion while running Ubuntu, Kubuntu, or UbuntuStudio to have done that. I believe startx should get { X } going. Maybe get another opinion on this.
[11:05] <Lucios> windows suck..need antivirus..anti-spyware
[11:05] <mikeconcepts> really strange problem, just installed ubuntu 7.04 and setup evolution -- email is downloaded ok from the pop3 server, but I can't see it in evolution
[11:05] <jacobb> Anyone have any advice on setting up an IRC server?
[11:05] <pirving> it's a sad day to see a slacker install ubuntu....I've done it, and I'm falling in love with it...it totally replaces windows, if it came with wine.
[11:05] <ortega10> Ademan: oh you mean net send and that stuff
[11:05] <jowi> locke: you can try it out without removing GDM. create a user and a custom .xsession file in the user dir. in GDM chose "default" session (that will launch .xsession).
[11:05] <Intensity> Hi. I'm attempting to run 1680x1050 on a Lenovo flat panel monitor on ubuntu-6.06.1-server.  I added "1680x1050" to xorg.conf but initially it wasn't recognised.  Then I added a ModeLine that was advised for 1680x1050. But the error I get now is "config file hsync range 20-100 not within DDC hsync range 30-83 kHz". When I comment out the "ddc" module, I still get the same result.  When xorg does start, I get 1600x1200. Any ideas
[11:05] <Intensity>  on how I can get the maximum resolution, or what to try next?
[11:05] <ortega10> Ademan: hmm i don't think you can access to that; anyway it should be disabled in any secure network
[11:06] <jowi> locke: then log in with the new user
[11:06] <imbecile> i added new repos.. how do i update my sources in terminal?
[11:06] <ortega10> Intensity: can't you configure it automatically?  with dpkg something something?
[11:06] <Ademan> ortega10: heh i know, there's someone in my area with an unsecured wireless network and their router uses the default linksys password, i was gonna send them a little message about it
[11:06] <ortega10> imbecile: apt-get update
[11:06] <locke> jowi: hmm , let me see
[11:06] <Lucios> imbcile: apt-get update
[11:06] <imbecile> ortega10:  thanks man :)
[11:06] <php-programmer> Hello, whenever I boot up my Linux 7.04 Live CDs and its finished loading, my laptop screen turns off? Any ideas guys?
[11:07] <Intensity> ortega10: I'm not sure; I wasn't prompted for configuration when I installed the x-window-system packages through apt-get.
[11:07] <jacobb> php-programmer I've heard there's issues with some of the mobility ati cards.  x1300 I believe.
[11:07] <ortega10> Intensity: let me find you the command
[11:07] <Intensity> ortega10: I don't know what package to reconfigure.  Or the specific command to try.
[11:07] <php-programmer> I've tried using Freespire, DSL, and ReactOS
[11:07] <ubuntu_> php programmer....maybe it doesnt detect the driver
[11:07] <jowi> php-programmer: i did not have any luck with the 7.04 live cd either. i used the alternative install cd.
[11:07] <php-programmer> It used to work untill I deleted all of my partitions
[11:07] <php-programmer> Because I accidentily mashed them all up
[11:08] <locke> jowi: in GDM { HEED_DEFAULT_DISPLAY_MANAGER=true        |        DEFAULT_DISPLAY_MANAGER_FILE=/etc/X11/default-display-manager } are the display manager options, they don't seem to go by user?
[11:08] <sotec_prod> Anyone used the patch-2.6.20-ck1.bz2 ??
[11:08] <ubuntu_> try getting a linux driver from the manufacturer and puttinfg it on a floppy
[11:08] <ortega10> Intensity: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:08] <locke> jowi: unless i am missing your point..
[11:08] <Intensity> ortega10: The monitor is an external one, and it's running on a laptop.  So if it initially configured resolutions, it might have thought that I was going to be running on the internal display, and therefore might have bypassed the configuration step for me.
[11:08] <ubuntu_> then insert the floppy
[11:08] <sotec_prod> crdlb, you around today?
[11:08] <jacobb> I need a quick and easy way to setup an irc server on this system, anyon ehave any advice?
[11:08] <Pollywog> is clamscan broken for anyone else since the update of a few days ago?  It is also broken for me in Debian Etch
[11:08] <jowi> locke: you misunderstood me. in GDM login screen you can select a session. chose "Default" then login
[11:08] <ortega10> i'm about to reinstall ubuntu, i've already backed up my docs, and i don't want to keep my configuration; is there any special precaution i should take? (about grub, boot sector, etc)
[11:08] <php-programmer> Its working for me on Windows
[11:08] <php-programmer> (ClamScan)
[11:09] <locke> jowi: oh, i see what you mean
[11:09] <ubuntu_> you prob have only the windows driver
[11:09] <jowi> locke: no need to go through config files :)
[11:09] <Burlynn> anyone have ubuntu installed on a 2.16 ghz macbook? ive read that a boot parameter like lpj=8000000 is needed to prevent kernel panics on 2 ghz macbooks, does anyone know the setting for 2.16s, or is it the same?
[11:09] <ortega10> Intensity: you can reconfigure with that command, then try if it works... you can restart the x server with ctrl alt backspace, so you don't have to reboot the whole thing with each change
[11:09] <Intensity> ortega10: I'm doing that right now.  Do you know, by the way, if I can effectively use framebuffer or SVGAlib or some other VNC method to call up a remote VNC display (without going through X)?  And am I likely to get 1680x1050 that way?
[11:09] <sotec_prod> Anyone used the ck1 patchsets for the 2.6.20 kernel?
[11:09] <ortega10> Intensity: i have no idea about that, sorry
[11:10] <ubuntu_> the linux driver probably came on in the swap sect of your hdd on purchase
[11:10] <ortega10> i'm about to reinstall ubuntu, i've already backed up my docs, and i don't want to keep my configuration; is there any special precaution i should take?? (about grub, boot sector, etc)
[11:10] <ubuntu_> so...yeah
[11:10] <PingMe_> Hello.
[11:10] <php-programmer> Anyone here used ReactOS before?
[11:10] <sotec_prod> Anyone used the ck1 patchsets for the linux kernel 2.6.20?
[11:11] <jowi> ortega10: just a general advice; create a separate /home partition.
[11:11] <sotec_prod> php-programmer, I have
[11:11] <sotec_prod> right now, it's junk
[11:11] <php-programmer> I've been using it on QEMU
[11:11] <locke> jowi: "run xclient script", hmm
[11:11] <sotec_prod> It barely runs
[11:11] <shelia_> thnx Lucios
[11:11] <ortega10> jowi: yeah i already have one, thanks... my problem is with grub, i'm afraid reinstalling will screw it up or something
[11:11] <php-programmer> How about Freespire?
[11:11] <sotec_prod> I tried ReactOS on vmware server
[11:11] <jowi> locke: what?
[11:11] <Lucios> shelia_: solve or not?
[11:11] <Pollywog> and I don't know if clamscan is broken in fbsd since I do not have it installed there yet
[11:11] <Pollywog> maybe I will buy f-prot, since I don't think I can fix this
[11:11] <Pollywog> php-programmer: yeah it does not surprise me that it still works in Windows
[11:11] <sotec_prod> i haven't used Freespire yet.
[11:11] <Pollywog> I used ReactOS once
[11:12] <Pollywog> Freespire is nice
[11:12] <php-programmer> Freespire is more of user freindly thing
[11:12] <Pollywog> but there are rumors about the next version of Feeespire
[11:12] <shelia_>   Luciosnow how do I remove it so that I can try to reinstall it?
[11:12] <PingMe_> Help me, if you can... Preinstall Vista (Sony Vaio), I resize disk and install Ubuntu, Ubuntu is work, but if select Vista - not load.
[11:12] <locke> jowi: that's the session option/description, so im assuming that startx runs according to user, so if this is the case, then if i logged in and used startx it should run what i want, unless....there is a specific xclient script?
[11:12] <sotec_prod> I want to try FreeBSD
[11:12] <ortega10> reactos is just an experimental project... it's not intended for people actually using it (now)
[11:12] <Intensity> ortega10: I am also reconfiguring to accept a USB keyboard that has a built-in laptop-like pointer.  In this case, should I choose the default selection for mouse configuration of ImPS/2?  The other option is ExplorerPS/2.  I'm assuming the default is probably correct. :)
[11:12] <Pollywog> if there is a new Freespire it will be based un ubuntu
[11:13] <Lucios> sotec+prod: FreeBSD more different
[11:13] <Pollywog> I am running FreeBSD on a laptop
[11:13] <ortega10> Intensity: i guess default is always ok unless you know what you're doing  :P
[11:13] <ortega10> Intensity: and i dont
[11:13] <Lucios> shelia_hold on
[11:13] <shelia_> n/p
[11:13] <sotec_prod> Lucios, i know. It's closer to a true Unix machine
[11:13] <php-programmer> Be careful, Sony doesn't support open source at all... its rumered Vaio laptops have something do with the control of power in the battery that causes conflicts
[11:14] <ubuntu_> hph programmer: yeah   i just looked it up...it looks amazingly awesome
[11:14] <crpdm> hi
[11:14] <jowi> locke: oh. on my system the desctiption is "this is the default system session". should be fine.
[11:14] <ubuntu_> php*
[11:14] <php-programmer> Sounds good then
[11:14] <ubuntu_> yup
[11:14] <Lucios> sotec_prod: yep..
[11:14] <PingMe_> php-programmer> not problem with Ubuntu in Sony Vaio
[11:14] <jowi> locke: the option itself say "default system session" in GDM
[11:14] <sotec_prod> Has anyone used Con Koliva's patchset for the 2.6.20 kernel?
[11:14] <php-programmer> Okay, its just what I heard somewhere
[11:14] <crpdm> anyone know how to read hfs+ on ubuntu?
[11:14] <locke> jowi: yea, but when you mouse over that it says "run clientx script"
[11:14] <Pici> !hfs | crpdm
[11:14] <ubotu> crpdm: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[11:15] <ortega10> sotec_prod: we ubuntonistas like it easy so this is probably not the place  :P
[11:15] <php-programmer> My Sony Vaio (FX103) Server is running Windows XP Pro
[11:15] <crpdm> but
[11:15] <php-programmer> Haven't tried linux on it
[11:15] <jowi> locke: maybe the description changed in feisty. should be the same.
[11:15] <crpdm> i can't read some folder
[11:15] <crpdm> it says i have no permission
[11:15] <sotec_prod> Well, it's either this room or ubuntu-effects, and while I love -effects, this topic is better suited to this room.
[11:15] <sotec_prod> but if i must.....
[11:15] <Lucios> shelia_: hard to say if the 1st person install from source
[11:15] <mikeconcepts> where is the inbox in evolution?
[11:16] <Bsims> Ok I think I might have found it
[11:16] <mikeconcepts> I can't find the inbox in evolution
[11:16] <shmeebegek> so my sound comes through my microphone jack..
[11:16] <Pollywog> what antivirus products are there besides clamav and f-prot?
[11:16] <shelia_> it was only from one source Lucios
[11:16] <Bsims> Lets just see if its gonna die on me again
[11:16] <shmeebegek> is this a known problem?
[11:16] <ubuntu_> cya
[11:16] <orbisvicis> does ubuntu 'shut down' completely power off and disable wake on lan ?
[11:16] <rabidweezle> what version drivers are used for nvidia in the restricted driver manager?
[11:16] <mikeconcepts> this is a real question folks, where is the inbox in evolution
[11:16] <_imran_> does anyone know how to get the plugin to play online games (mozilla firefox] )
[11:16] <rabidweezle> !nvidia
[11:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:16] <|_ocke> another locke?
[11:17] <Pollywog> mikeconcepts: for IMAP?
[11:17] <niuq> eboyjr: i did install it, but now i am not sure how to enable the effects
[11:17] <Lucios> shelia_: need to open my master book
[11:17] <derrik> exit
[11:17] <derrik> errr
[11:17] <pros99> Does anyone here have a problem with amarok locking up
[11:17] <shelia_> Luscios, I do have sun java 6 installed will that work
[11:17] <radioaktivstorm> does anyone know if rockbox will run on a 1st gen ipod shuffle?
[11:18] <mikeconcepts> Pollywog, don't know what IMAP is, just trying to view the email that has downloaded from my pop server at roadrunner
[11:18] <Lucios> shelia_: maybe..not sure..
[11:18] <cassus> hi
[11:18] <orbisvicis> !wol
[11:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:18] <Intensity> Okay.  I can't seem to get xorg to not use "detected DDC" timings.  I think that those "detected DDC" timings are not correct.  It detects 30-83 HorizSync and 50-76 VertRefresh.  Yet that's preventing 1680x1050 from loading.  I just get 1600x1200, and even then, it's through extra virtual space (where I need to scroll to the right to get that additional space).  Any idea how to disable the DDC checks?  I just did a dpkg-reconfig
[11:18] <Intensity> ure xserver-xorg.
[11:18] <slabby> Anyone available to help me setup my xorg for a integrated nvidia card. I have gone from black screens, lockups, weird ubuntu screens etc
[11:18] <Pici> radioaktivstorm: Try asking in #rockbox
[11:18] <shelia_> ok
[11:18] <azi> i'm VERY disappointed by zhe ubuntu installer! first, X doesnt start becaouse of a too new graphic card,now, it won't install from the alternate cd as it "can't fetch package from cdrom?!" on a uncorrupted CD?!?!
[11:18] <Davy_Jones> radioaktivstorm: it should work
[11:18] <radioaktivstorm> mmk
[11:18] <Pollywog> radioaktivstorm: look on their site I think they have a version of Rockbox for older ipods
[11:18] <Pollywog> IIRC
[11:18] <Davy_Jones> radioaktivstorm: as far as i know roxbox might not run on the latest gen ipods
[11:19] <radioaktivstorm> thanks pici Davey_Jones Pollywog
[11:19] <mikeconcepts> I know the email is there, because when I try to make a new folder, it lists inbox as having 6 emails in it, but I don't know how to navigate to the inbox from all the menu items I can find in evolution
[11:19] <cassus> how can automatic xorg.conf generation on startup (as with the live-cd) can be forced on an installed ubuntu?
[11:19] <Pollywog> I have a 5th gen and it runs on mine but I recall seeing versions for some older hardware
[11:19] <AtlasShrugs> I have an ati mobility m4 video card, and I'm stucxk in 640X480. Anyone know a fix?
[11:19] <shelia_>  Lucios,where would I find out if I do have alien installed. Where would it be?
[11:19] <jowi> Intensity: in Section "Monitor" there should be  a line that say: Option "DDC" "false"
[11:19] <Skrypt> How can I get Ubuntu to store my WEP password / encryption key?
[11:19] <Pollywog> dpkg -l alien
[11:20] <slabby> atlasshrugs, sudo dpkf-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:20] <NETWizz> What are suggested packages
[11:20] <AtlasShrugs> thats all i have to do?
[11:20] <NETWizz> and recomended packages
[11:20] <NETWizz> what are they
[11:20] <NETWizz> what is their point?
[11:20] <jowi> Intensity: i have it for a specific modeline i use.
[11:20] <niuq> eboyjr: i am trying with the hotkeys, but nothing seems to work
[11:20] <rodrick> hello i just installed ubuntu 7.04 on a fujitsu siemens amilo m4438g, and i'm having a bit of a problem with the sound
[11:20] <rodrick> i can't make the volume wheel work
[11:20] <AtlasShrugs> command not found
[11:21] <jowi> !ati | AtlasShrugs
[11:21] <ubotu> AtlasShrugs: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:21] <rodrick> and the volume is extremely low even though i almos max the PCM and main volume sliders in alsamixer
[11:21] <cassus> please, from where is "dexconf" called in a livecd startup?
[11:21] <un> can someone tell how to install xchat on ubuntu?
[11:21] <_imran_> does anyone know how to get the plugin to play online games (mozilla firefox] )
[11:21] <rodrick> un: sudo apt-get install xchat ?
[11:21] <jowi> rodrick: sounds like if you connected the speakers to "line out" instead of the "speaker" plug.
[11:21] <Intensity> jowi: Thanks for the tip.  The monitor is giving me an "out of range" error when I leave it to do 1680x1050.  I'm putting back the suggested ModeLine manually (the dpkg-reconfigure overwrote xorg.conf).
[11:22] <mikeconcepts> ah, found show side bar in evolution, and the inbox lists 6 emails are contained in it, but the email isn't visible
[11:22] <mikeconcepts> a permissions issue?
[11:22] <rodrick> jowi there is just one output
[11:22] <rodrick> and it
[11:22] <rodrick> it's amplified
[11:22] <Icehawk> intensity: out of range means your video card cant handle such a refresh rate
[11:22] <un> rodrick thx
[11:22] <deathnall> hi all i really need some help. ive been trying for ages and cant figure it out
[11:22] <Icehawk> intensity: use a lower resolution
[11:22] <ccameron> I am so pleased with Ubuntu, it has natively recognized and used my wirless card (pci) and speakers!! talk about advanced linux support.
[11:23] <shelia_> where is alien found?
[11:23] <Intensity> Icehawk: I'm able to display 1680x1050 in Windows.
[11:23] <deathnall> what it is. i have to go to my nvidia control panel and switch my res up to 1440 x 900 every time com resets. is there a way to save it so i dont have to keep doing this?
[11:23] <b4l74z4r> i just instructed opera to search for plugins in /home/mozilla/plugins, i guess its just as good as having the libflashplayer in the opera directory
[11:23] <Intensity> Icehawk: It must be the ModeLine that I'm entering manually, I guess.
[11:23] <jowi> Intensity: you can make your modeline with "gtf 1280 1024 60 -x" in a terminal. where 1280 is the width, 1024 is the height and 60 is the refreshrate you want.
[11:23] <bruenig> deathnall, you need to run it as root and save it to xorg
[11:23] <Icehawk> Intensity: Possible problems could be the resolution, the dept or the refreshrate
[11:23] <bruenig> xorg.conf*
[11:24] <Skrypt> How can I get Ubuntu to store my WEP password / encryption key?
[11:24] <Icehawk> Intensity: follow jowi instructions
[11:24] <deathnall> how do i run it as root?
[11:24] <rodrick> ok so this wheel is not responding at all.. and i thought it was analogue
[11:24] <rodrick> but obviously it's not
[11:24] <bruenig> deathnall, gksudo whateverthecommandis
[11:24] <Icehawk> deathnall: sudo su root
[11:24] <Surviver> can anyone tell me more about /etc/modules i got 3 things in it but dont know what they mean : lp ( i think sonthing about printer , but i dont use...) , rtc and fuse...
[11:24] <deathnall> ok i will try it now
[11:24] <BFrank> hi, does anyone here have a Compaq v2205 laptop?
[11:24] <BFrank> I can't get the broadcom driver to work with the wireless
[11:24] <Lucios> !modules
[11:24] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 
[11:25] <Intensity> jowi: Thanks for the tip.  I'm trying gtf 1680 1050 60 -x.  Because I know 1680x1050 can work.  However, I'm not sure how low of a refresh rate I should go.  It's actually able to calculate a ModeLine when I specify 30 for the refresh rate.
[11:25] <mikeconcepts> is there some default issue with my home folder not have the correct permissions?
[11:25] <cassus> someone please msg me who knows how the livecd boot system generates xorg.conf !
[11:26] <deathnall> its asking me to run a programme? wtf. what now? lol
[11:26] <Rain_Maker> #Death Quake
[11:26] <ShackJack> !wireless | BFrank - good troubleshooting guide here...
[11:26] <ubotu> BFrank - good troubleshooting guide here...: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:26] <BFrank> yeah
[11:26] <BFrank> the wireless starts turned off
[11:26] <ccameron> BFrank:  Use a Netgear G or D-link card
[11:26] <BFrank> there is a button on the machine
[11:26] <ccameron> they work nativel with ubuntu
[11:26] <jowi> Intensity: when you use gtf you need to be aware that the name of the modeline is not valid. for example i will give you: Modeline "1680x1050_0.00" blah blah.... you need to rename it to: Modeline "1680x1050" blah blah when you put it in xorg.conf.
[11:26] <BFrank> but the button can't turn it on
[11:26] <BFrank> hmm
[11:26] <ShackJack> !enter | BFrank
[11:26] <ubotu> BFrank: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:27] <deathnall> ok guys im in this programme called gksudo. im trying to save my settings with nvidia how do i run the programme?
[11:27] <jowi> Intensity: all lcd screens work in 60 (what i know of) so that option should be safe
[11:27] <ShackJack> ccameron: Or intel :)
[11:27] <Beta-guy> I have ubuntu Linux on my PS3 I heard there is an updated kernel, will it be released through the update menager?
[11:27] <AtlasShrugs> my card is not one of the choices
[11:27] <Intensity> jowi: The first paramater of the Modeline is 147.14 when I autogenerate with gtf.  The one I took from the web started with 119.0, yet it wasn't working.  Is it also important to narrow down HorizSync and VertRefresh?  Or does the Modeline override the use of those, once I specify those two parameters to be big enough?
[11:27] <NETWizz> reboot time
[11:27] <NETWizz> b rb
[11:27] <PriceChild> Beta-guy, yes.
[11:27] <jowi> Intensity: trust the one that is generated on your system.
[11:27] <Beta-guy> PriceChild: do you know when that might be?
[11:28] <PriceChild> Beta-guy, if its released.
[11:28] <deathnall> guyss please. how the hell do i save my settings in nvidia?. and if i need to be in root , how do i get there?
[11:28] <AtlasShrugs> ATI mobility m4, its on an old dell inspiron 8000. I"m stuck in 640X480...any he;p would be great
[11:28] <jowi> Intensity: you can probably omit horiz+vert refresh entirely in xorg.conf. (sorry for my spelling)
[11:28] <Intensity> jowi: I did the rename already...  Okay, I'll move back the HorizSync and VertRefresh as they were.  Does that mean I should also comment out my Option "DDC" "false" and have it go through DDC with the ModeLine included as the default?  Or is it still important to disable DDC?
[11:28] <crpdm> i can't get permission for some folder in hfs+...
[11:29] <crpdm> somebody help me T_T
[11:29] <jowi> Intensity: for me i need to disable DDC
[11:29] <b4l74z4r> why do i get this message "locate: warning: database /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db' is more than 8 days old" when i use the locate command in terminal?
[11:29] <AtlasShrugs> ATI mobility m4, its on an old dell inspiron 8000. I"m stuck in 640X480...any he;p would be great
[11:29] <jowi> Intensity: wait. i give you a link on how it can look...
[11:29] <deathnall> i hate the fact that everytime i restart unbuntu i have to redo the screen resolution
[11:29] <Lucios> how to make my nameserver in /etc/resolve.conf not change after i reebot?
[11:29] <Evilbadwrong> Hi folks....anyone have time to help me out with Envy?
[11:29] <PriceChild> !envy | Evilbadwrong
[11:29] <ubotu> Evilbadwrong: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[11:30] <astro76> b4l74z4r, for some reason it hasn't run by cron, you can do sudo updatedb
[11:30] <Lucios> it change to my ip router
[11:30] <Beta-guy> is there a frontend program for compiling and installing a kernel?
[11:30] <jowi> Intensity: http://burninghands.eu/linux-on-mac.html#Xorg_Resolution
[11:30] <Intensity> jowi: Well, it's getting further.  Now I'm getting a "real" 1600x1200 (instead of one made up of a virtual size).  But still not 1680x1050.
[11:30] <joseph_> hey, I was wondering how you monitor the battery levels from the console
[11:30] <deathnall> ok guys i still need help here
[11:30] <Evilbadwrong> Envy worked just fine for me...I'm just having some minor graphics issues with the latest ATI driver it installed....
[11:30] <PriceChild> joseph_, acpi -b
[11:31] <jowi> Intensity: ignore the 915resolution on that webpage but the rest should do you good.
[11:31] <ShackJack> !ask | Evilbadwrong
[11:31] <ubotu> Evilbadwrong: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:31] <deathnall> i really wana save my settings for nvidia
[11:31] <PriceChild> joseph_, see "man acpi" for more informatino
[11:31] <banlieue> is there a reason 'gnome-screensaver' is constantly running, and is using between 10% and 20% CPU as we speak?
[11:31] <deathnall> ok im just gona keep asking this stuff
[11:31] <ShackJack> deathnall: You could edit your xorg.conf so the desired resolution is the default?
[11:31] <Evilbadwrong> Ok, the optimal resolution for my monitor is 1440 X 900....but when I choose this resolution, it will only allow the refresh rate to be set at 30Hz....
[11:31] <joseph_> pricechild: perfect, thanks!
[11:31] <niuq> i have a problem with compiz-fusion
[11:31] <deathnall> can anyone help me with nvidia settings please?
[11:31] <niuq> any help plz
[11:31] <niuq> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31725/
[11:32] <deathnall> thnx shakjack but how do i do that?
[11:32] <jowi> !resolution | Evilbadwrong
[11:32] <ubotu> Evilbadwrong: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:32] <banlieue> 15% CPU sounds like a lot for a screensaver application when there's no screensaver running
[11:32] <Intensity> jowi: I've pretty much done those instructions (in what I've been attempting thus far).  I seem to get the X to start and to display, but I'm also at the same time getting my monitor's warning of "Input Signal Out of Range".  Should I try a lower or a higher refresh rate (from 60)?
[11:32] <Billy_S> I suspect hardware problem/instability in my system. What application I run under linux to make it full burn in test?
[11:32] <Evilbadwrong> Hmm...ok. I'll try that. Thanks Ubotu.
[11:32] <UberDuper> How can I check to see if acpi is enabled?
[11:33] <Skrypt> How can I get Ubuntu to store my WEP password / encryption key?
[11:33] <jowi> Intensity: you can always try. it won't hurt an lcd as it would a crt :)
[11:33] <PriceChild> UberDuper, it will be unless you got rid of it.
[11:33] <deathnall> how do i edit my xorg.conf?
[11:33] <UberDuper> n/m. dmesg makes it pretty clear.
[11:33] <PriceChild> Skrypt, it will do this automatically, asking for a keyring password to store it in
[11:33] <Skrypt> It's not storing it.
[11:33] <PriceChild> deathnall, gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:34] <Skrypt> PriceChild: I enter it initially to connect, then I connect and another dialog comes up asking to add it to the keyring. I enter the password there and click ok and it just pops back up again.
[11:34] <AhmedKoK> does anyone know how to mount a .BIN/.CUE img in Ubuntu server ?
[11:34] <hanasaki> why would user accounts be in a differnet timezone then the root account?
[11:34] <ShackJack> deathnall: gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf  look down where resolutions are listed for your *Default Depth* usuall 24...
[11:34] <Intensity> jowi: So the lower in numbers I go for the refresh, the worse the visual quality I will perceive?  (In that, I'm meant to set that as high as my monitor will support).  Is that correct?  If I'm getting the warning messages from the monitor, that may suggest that I need to make the numbers more closer to a failsafe.
[11:34] <PriceChild> Skrypt, different password to your wep key for the keyring... and I guess you've already set the keyring password
[11:34] <PriceChild> Skrypt, I also strongly advise against WEP... it isn't secure.
[11:34] <hanasaki> PriceChild: what is best
[11:35] <AhmedKoK> anyone?
[11:35] <niuq> i am having a problem with compiz - fusion
[11:35] <ShackJack> Intensity: Refresh is not really the same phenomenon on LCDs as it is on CRTs - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refresh_rate
[11:35] <PriceChild> hanasaki, ?
[11:35] <niuq> i am using a ati card btw
[11:35] <ShackJack> AhmedKoK: Is it a movie?
[11:35] <hanasaki> PriceChild:  other than WEP
[11:35] <AhmedKoK> shakjack: yes
[11:35] <niuq> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31725/
[11:35] <Skrypt> niuq: #compiz-fusion
[11:35] <PriceChild> hanasaki, I use mac filtering, disable broadcast and then use wpa-psk if I can be bothered with the hastle.
[11:36] <exyan> where are the beryl conf files or how do u reset em to default?
[11:36] <ShackJack> niuq: Check out #ubuntu-effects or #compiz-fusion
[11:36] <AhmedKoK> ShackJack: I set Acetone but it didnt work (my system is x85_64
[11:36] <AhmedKoK> 86*
[11:36] <jowi> Intensity: how does it look if you comment out the horizsync/vertrefresh?
[11:36] <exyan> accidently checked XGL as a renderer, instead of nvidia, now it hangs on start :)
[11:36] <hanasaki> PriceChild:  using iptables eh
[11:36] <ShackJack> AhmedKoK: Not what I asked ;)
[11:36] <PriceChild> hanasaki, a big problem with encryption is that if you've got a poor quality connection, then you may not be able to connect at all
[11:36] <PriceChild> hanasaki, no, on the AP.
[11:36] <Intensity> ShackJack: What I am noticing now on my LCD is a kind of rescaling type effect.  I think that the monitor natively supports 1680x1050 but when it has to do 1600x1200, it has to choose an uneven correspondence of pixels (sometimes letting one pixel stand for two pixels in the translation).
[11:36] <banlieue> is there a reason 'gnome-screensaver' is constantly running, and is using between 10% and 20% CPU as we speak?
[11:36] <niuq> ShackJack: i came from ubuntu-effects, and compiz-fusion doesnt seems to works., i mean i type /Join #compiz-fusion and nothing happens
[11:36] <deathnall> shack my default depth is 24 and it says different modes
[11:36] <AhmedKoK> ShackJack: I said yes up there :D
[11:37] <deathnall> i mean
[11:37] <fsck1> how do i change my font in my panels? Like where it says applications system etc
[11:37] <ShackJack> AhmedKoK: Oh, sorry - check out VLC media player - it can play bin /cue natively :)
[11:37] <deathnall> theres loads of sections saying what res there are available
[11:37] <AhmedKoK> ShackJack: Ok great thanks :) I'll check it out
[11:37] <deathnall> but do i have to put 1440 x 900 in every part?
[11:37] <Intensity> jowi: When I comment those out, I get 640x480.  That might also because I have disabled DDC and because I list only "1680x1050" under the modes that I would like.
[11:37] <BFrank> wow, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs worked. Why isn't this part of the standard ubuntu documentation?
[11:37] <exyan> so noone know where to find beryl configs?
[11:38] <contradiction-pi> howdy. i'm trying to install  a package using dpkg -i, but it always gives me: cxgettext:error: unable to set the locale
[11:38] <PriceChild> exyan, gconf or ~/.beryl* depends :)
[11:38] <jowi> Intensity: ok, depends on the driver s it was a longshot
[11:38] <Gnea> contradiction-pi: what package?
[11:38] <exyan> PriceChild: checked ~/.beryl but couldn't find anything with rendering there
[11:39] <pros99> I'm looking for a quick solution to download podcasts
[11:39] <pros99> Anyone?
[11:39] <Intensity> jowi: Okay.  Well, when I *do* have the Horiz/Vert put in, I get (II) Not using mode "1680x1050" (no mode of this name).  Yet I do have the Modeline in the Monitor section.  And, also I don't see an earlier warning that 1680x1050 wasn't possible.
[11:39] <jowi> Intensity: can you pastebin your xorg.conf please?
[11:39] <Gnea> contradiction-pi: please, keep the discussion public.
[11:40] <Gnea> contradiction-pi: it matters if it's a package that's not meant for your distribution
[11:40] <baggie> hiya. got a problem with my network card. is a yukon marvell gigabit LAN card. It works perfectly happily  on a 100Mb network, but is dodgy on my new gigabit one. It fails after a minute, with even ping no longer working
[11:40] <shmeebegek> has anyone encountered a problem whereby sound comes through the microphone jack?
[11:40] <baggie> can anyone gove a surrestion?
[11:40] <contradiction-pi> gnea: it's meant for ubuntu 7.04 32 bit, and i'm trying to install it using --force-architecture. i read that it's fine to do that for this particular package
[11:41] <contradiction-pi> (i have amd64)
[11:41] <banlieue> does anyone even know what the functions of 'gnome-screensaver' are? I can't find a proper information page on it online
[11:41] <Gnea> contradiction-pi: ok, well without a packagename i can't help you.
[11:41] <jowi> Intensity: "no mode of this name" sounds fishy.need to see your xorg.conf
[11:41] <ShackJack> back - gutsy didn't warn battery was low :)
[11:41] <contradiction-pi> gnea: k. thanks anyway
[11:41] <b4l74z4r> are there any good books for linux beginners that discuss the ubuntu distro specifically?
[11:42] <Gnea> contradiction-pi: yeah, good luck with that (you're gonna need it)
[11:42] <Drk_Guy> I am missing Ubuntu guys
[11:42] <lex_> you dont need books, just goodgle the topic
[11:42] <lex_> you will find an answer every time
[11:42] <Drk_Guy> All this Puppylinux stuff is complicated
[11:42] <Intensity> jowi: I agree that it sounds fishy.  I am working on pasting both xorg.conf and the recent Xorg.0.log.  Normally when a mode is invalid, then in Xorg.0.log I would see something like "this mode is out of range".  Yet, here, nothing like that appears in the Xorg.0.log.  So I'm a bit confused about that.  I will be able to paste those in a minute.
[11:42] <Beyond_The_Grave> Does anybody know of a better iTunes program than Rhythmbox?
[11:42] <jowi> Drk_Guy: you're "missing ubuntu guys" or "missing ubuntu, guys" ;)
[11:42] <UberDuper> There any other utils like lm-sensors worth looking at?
[11:43] <Drk_Guy> The second one jowi
[11:43] <ShackJack> Beyond_The_Grave: I like Exaile SVN
[11:43] <jowi> Drk_Guy: lol. sorry.
[11:43] <lex_> amarock is really good sound player
[11:43] <mikeconcepts> someone please help my troubleshoot why I can't see my email in a new install of fiesty
[11:43] <Davy_Jones> Beyond_The_Grave: i would suggest amarok, but it's KDE
[11:43] <Beyond_The_Grave> Is it the normal one. and does it support iPods too?
[11:43] <Beyond_The_Grave> ShckJack
[11:43] <mikeconcepts> the inbox shows 6 emails are there, but I can't see them
[11:43] <ShackJack> AhmedKoK: I fell off channel - u all set/?
[11:43] <Gnea> mikeconcepts: what email program are you using and what sort of email account is it?
[11:43] <IndyGunFreak> mikeconcepts: what email program] 
[11:43] <ShackJack> Beyond_The_Grave: Yep..
[11:44] <lex_> it dosent matter if amarok is kde... it still works pretty well
[11:44] <Beyond_The_Grave> Cool, I'll check it out thanks! ^_6
[11:44] <AhmedKoK> ShackJack: I hope so :), I'm installing it now hopefully i can get it to work (i think i might need to add a repository first)
[11:44] <ShackJack> Beyond_The_Grave: plus its gnome native not kde
[11:44] <mikeconcepts> gnea evolution and a simple pop3 account from roadrunner
[11:44] <b4l74z4r> i need basic knowledge, like if i'm not root and want to paste a file in a folder that i don't have write permission to; will i just be prompted for the root password or do i need to log out and then in again as root?
[11:44] <Das> Quick question: Does Unbunt work alright with SATA drives?
[11:44] <PriceChild> Das, yes
[11:44] <baggie> @das yes it does
[11:44] <ShackJack> AhmedKoK: installing what?
[11:44] <Gnea> mikeconcepts: should be a piece of cake. what's the hangup?
[11:44] <mikeconcepts> gnea, the eamil is downloaded, and I can sent as well, but can't even see the sent email
[11:44] <azi> is there any way i could install ubuntu only from CD in text mode?
[11:45] <AhmedKoK> ShackJack: Installing VLC
[11:45] <Gnea> mikeconcepts: not even in the sent folder?
[11:45] <baggie> @ azi use the alternate install cd
[11:45] <IndyGunFreak> azi: yes, the alternate install cd
[11:45] <ShackJack> b4l74z4r: http://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Ubuntu-Linux-Novice-Professional/dp/1590596277
[11:45] <Das> Thank you PriceChild, and baggie
[11:45] <Davy_Jones> this is a hotmail question, can i use evolution with a hotmail account?
[11:45] <jowi> Intensity: let me explain while i wait for the paste... it should not complain that the mode doesn't exist since you created a modeline for it. maybe there's a typo somewhere...
[11:45] <Das> Have a good day, all
[11:45] <sp1nter> has anyone bought one of the dell comps with freedos and just installed ubuntu
[11:45] <mikeconcepts> I see the sent folder, and it lists 2 up at the top as a total, but the actual email isn't visable
[11:45] <Gnea> azi: yeah, boot the cd and it will give you the option
[11:45] <ShackJack> b4l74z4r: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_b/104-5061484-7694347?initialSearch=1&url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=ubuntu&Go.x=0&Go.y=0&Go=Go :)
[11:45] <baggie> hi, I asked earlier can anyone help me with my netwworking problems?
[11:46] <IndyGunFreak> Gnea: you sure about that?
[11:46] <Gnea> mikeconcepts: that's weird - have you tried thunderbird?
[11:46] <mikeconcepts> no
[11:46] <Gnea> IndyGunFreak: i've seen it
[11:46] <mikeconcepts> guess I better
[11:46] <IndyGunFreak> hmm
[11:46] <UberDuper> Mkay. mbmon gives me completely wrong values.
[11:46] <UberDuper> Says my cpu temp is 406F
[11:46] <Intensity> jowi: It's at http://pastebin.com/d3d248de7
[11:46] <fsck1> can anyone tell me how to change the font in my panels?
[11:46] <Gnea> azi: you may have to press the F-keys at the top to find a special option if it doesn't provide it right off the bat
[11:47] <b4l74z4r> ShackJack: thanks
[11:47] <Pollywog> now I see why clamav is taking so long to scan files.  The list of viruses is at almost 250,000
[11:47] <poncho1> baggie: ask your question
[11:47] <Davy_Jones> sp1nter: usually linux or freedos laptops are not powerful
[11:47] <Intensity> jowi: I agree with your explanation in general.  Yet, I don't believe that there's a typo.
[11:47] <revilodraw> my wireless doesnt work on startup..I click 'System, Administration, Network' Uncheck then recheck the Wireless box and it works perfectly...Any idea how to make it connect on startup?
[11:47] <ShackJack> Pollywog: And they're all Windows viruses :)
[11:47] <ConfidentiaL_> So, I have this really old laptop (550 Mhz and about 350mb RAM), and I want to optimize it to be e little faster. I just installed feisty, and am using gnome. I guess a new window-manager would help, but Im not sure. Does someone have any suggestions for me?
[11:47] <Gnea> ConfidentiaL_: fluxbox
[11:47] <IndyGunFreak> azi: why do you want to use the text installer instead of the live install cd?
[11:47] <ShackJack> revilodraw: Are you running network manager on startup?
[11:48] <baggie> Davy_Jones: I have a gigabit marvell yukon cvard - works fine at 100Mb,  falls down on a 100Mb network
[11:48] <Pollywog> a 16MB file took 3 mins to scan
[11:48] <fsck1> ConfidentiaL_: install fluxbox its a light-weight window manager
[11:48] <mikeconcepts> I think I'll reinstall fiesty, but fisrt I have to burn a new cd, the one I used was herd 5, and even though it updated all the way to current level, perhaps it is an issue from using a beta cd
[11:48] <baggie> opps falls down on 1000mb
[11:48] <Pollywog> I thought clamav was just locked up but no, it works
[11:48] <revilodraw> shackjack: hmm n ot sure.. how do i check?
[11:48] <bruenig> ConfidentiaL_, xfce is lighter and really better than gnome
[11:48] <ShackJack> revilodraw: Preferences -> Sessions -> Startup programs although you should see something in system tray...
[11:48] <Pollywog> xfce4 is nice
[11:48] <Davy_Jones> ConfidentiaL_: i would recommend you install a more minimal distro, not ubuntu
[11:49] <ShackJack> bruenig: Were you the one asking about xorg.conf?
[11:49] <revilodraw> shackjack:yes i am running it on startup
[11:49] <baggie> Davy_Jones; i think i need to use the sk98lin instead of the sky2 one
[11:49] <UberDuper> NVidia onboard nics are such horrible piles.
[11:49] <sp1nter> Davy_Jones: thinking about buying a desktop from dell cuz I get a discount through work and the options on the freedos machines are just better for me
[11:49] <BFrank> does anyone know why the bcm43xx driver doesn't have a manpage explaining the need to download the bcm firmware and how to do it to make it work?
[11:49] <bruenig> ShackJack, no I had told someone about xorg.conf but not asked
[11:49] <Davy_Jones> bruenig: i agree with lighter, but i strongly disagree with better
[11:49] <AhmedKoK> ShackJack: Thanks a lot man! VLC Working perfectly!
[11:49] <ShackJack> AhmedKoK: No prob :)
[11:49] <bruenig> Davy_Jones, what does gnome have?
[11:49] <BFrank> actually, I also wonder why restricted hardware didn't prompt to download the broadcom firmware
[11:49] <ShackJack> revilodraw: When you startup you should be able to click the network mgr icon in tray and select network...
[11:49] <Davy_Jones> baggie: i have no idea what you're talking about.. some yokun and vcard..
[11:50] <Gnea> sp1nter: why not get one with ubuntu installed on it?
[11:50] <jowi> Intensity: ah, so you use the i810 driver. perfect. does "sudo 915resolution -l" list 1680x1050 ?
[11:50] <Davy_Jones> bruenig: lot of things that xfce don't have
[11:50] <bruenig> Davy_Jones, like?
[11:50] <Davy_Jones> bruenig: i don't know but many
[11:50] <Intensity> jowi: I don't have 915resolution.  Should I install it?
[11:50] <hanasaki> "date" under root reprots as EDT while as a user account it is UTC... what contrrols the reporting?
[11:50] <File13> Hello
[11:50] <Davy_Jones> bruenig: i tried xfce, it has this stupid file manager thunar
[11:50] <ShackJack> !hi | File13
[11:50] <jowi> Intensity: what chipset do you have?
[11:50] <ubotu> File13: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:50] <Davy_Jones> bruenig: it doesn't even have a search function
[11:51] <revilodraw> shackjack; clicking on that icon doesnt take me to network manager, but i would prefer not to have to do anything, but for it to just work on startup
[11:51] <Pollywog> anyone using a Logitech marble 4 button mouse on Linux or Fbsd?
[11:51] <bruenig> Davy_Jones, what do you mean search function
[11:51] <Davy_Jones> bruenig: search for files?
[11:51] <bruenig> Davy_Jones, oh you use gui for that?
[11:51] <Intensity> jowi: Can I gather that information from Xorg.0.log?  I have an IBM Thinkpad X41.  In any case 915resolution seems to be outside of my default repository.
[11:51] <ShackJack> revilodraw: No, it shouldn't but it should pop up networks - it doesn't show you wired/wireless networks?
[11:51] <bruenig> Davy_Jones, every tried "locate file"
[11:51] <bruenig> ever*
[11:51] <Pollywog> mouse I meant trackball
[11:51] <Davy_Jones> bruenig: no
[11:51] <ShackJack> revilodraw: And you shold also have an option for manual configuration... DO you not have that?
[11:51] <jowi> Intensity: you have 915GM. install 915resolution.
[11:52] <bruenig> Davy_Jones, you should very fast
[11:52] <jowi> Intensity: then reboot. hopefully that will fix it.
[11:52] <jowi> !info 915resolution
[11:52] <Davy_Jones> bruenig: does it index searches?
[11:52] <ubotu> 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-10ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 14 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[11:52] <azi> IndyGunFreak: ubuntu doesn't start X as i have a recent graphic card
[11:52] <jowi> Intensity: its in the universe repo
[11:52] <revilodraw> shackjack; no it shows me connections, and the strength of my wireless connection.... although i can get to what u r talking about easily if need be
[11:52] <IndyGunFreak> azi: oh ok, ati or nvidia?
[11:52] <ShackJack> revilodraw: When you startup the first time what does it show?
[11:53] <azi> IndyGunFreak: intel
[11:53] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, it should start on the generic intel driver
[11:53] <bruenig> Davy_Jones, what do you mean by index, it has an index of every file on your system which is what allows it to search so fast
[11:53] <eboyjr> How can I get files off Ubuntu into VirtualBox's Windows XP Pro? Guest Additions are installed.
[11:53] <revilodraw> shack jack: would u like a screenshot?
[11:53] <azi> IndyGunFreak: well it doesn't
[11:53] <IndyGunFreak> azi: well, you may havve some other issue..,
[11:53] <Davy_Jones> bruenig: indexing is evil
[11:53] <azi> IndyGunFreak: intel x31000
[11:53] <Davy_Jones> bruenig: it takes unnecessary disk space
[11:53] <azi> IndyGunFreak: well other people report the same issue
[11:54] <ShackJack> revilodraw: No, I'm sure you can decribe to me what network mgr tray applet shows upon first startup... If it shows your network you shold be able to select...
[11:54] <IndyGunFreak> azi: ok, that may be the case, i just don't think i've heard of the gneric driver not working
[11:54] <baggie> Davy Jones; sorry - will try again. I have a network card in my pc - it is a Yukon marvel one. It works well on a 100Mb network, but when attatched to a gigabit switch fails after a few network requiests. I think it is because of the driver it is useing, the sky2 module, but am not sure - it might need to use the sk98lin module, or the skge - i dunno. any advice on how to get this working much appreciated
[11:54] <azi> IndyGunFreak: they also report it's possible to fix that by using the text installer and updating the sources
[11:54] <jbraten> has anyone here got their nikon d80 working with ubuntu? when I connect it with USB i get an error message from mount...
[11:54] <IndyGunFreak> azi: ok
[11:54] <Intensity> jowi: Okay I'm installing the 915resolution.  So will this make configuration of xorg.conf automatic?
[11:54] <IndyGunFreak> azi: did you find the alternate install cd/
[11:54] <bruenig> Davy_Jones, you can use find if you want realtime, indexing takes up very very little disk space
[11:54] <azi> IndyGunFreak: yup and i've tried to install it with no luck
[11:55] <jowi> Intensity: it patches the bios on-the-fly. you need to reboot for it to work. i hope it will. we'll see.
[11:55] <azi> IndyGunFreak: as i was not able to set the internet conection
[11:55] <IndyGunFreak> azi: the alternate install cd is the text based installer.
[11:55] <azi> IndyGunFreak: and ubuntu warns it can't install packages from cd
[11:55] <ShackJack> Intensity: Nope, see http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_Correct_the_Graphics_Resolution_.28Intel.29
[11:55] <azi> IndyGunFreak: something like "can't read package from.."
[11:55] <azi> IndyGunFreak: altough i've runned the corruption thest availeble on the CD
[11:56] <revilodraw> shackjack; it doesnt show which networks are available, it shows which connection 'eth1, eth0, lo, etc' and the strength of my wireless connection
[11:56] <IndyGunFreak> azi: i don't understand, you asked for the text based installer(which is the alternate install cd),
[11:56] <IndyGunFreak> but you say it doesn't work
[11:56] <azi> IndyGunFreak: correct
[11:56] <eboyjr> How can I get files off Ubuntu into VirtualBox's Windows XP Pro? Guest Additions are installed.
[11:56] <ShackJack> revilodraw: Upon first startup? Great then you can just pick wireless, no?
[11:56] <IndyGunFreak> i don't know, sounds lke you got issues.
[11:56] <azi> IndyGunFreak: it breaks when it has to install the *.deb packages
[11:56] <jbraten> are there any guides on the web on how to upgrade the kernel?
[11:56] <bruenig> Davy_Jones, you might also be interested to know, that locate already indexes your computer, it does it automatically
[11:56] <azi> IndyGunFreak: it says that it can't fetch the packages
[11:56] <IndyGunFreak> azi: ok
[11:57] <azi> IndyGunFreak: so i guess it tries to fetch them from the network
[11:57] <Intensity> ShackJack: Is it possible that my monitor might support something more than 1680x1050?  That was the maximum I could see as an option in Windows.  I'm trying to find the model number on this Lenovo monitor that I have.  It seems fairly big.
[11:57] <Gnea> !kernel | jbraten
[11:57] <ubotu> jbraten: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:57] <IndyGunFreak> azi: it must, but i don't seem to recall that
[11:57] <chrisa> So I've tried various modelines, config generators, etc online and I still can't get my 2007WFP to work properly at 1680x1050 with a sane refresh rate. It seems stuck at 50 which tends to be a bit painful on the eyes
[11:57] <azi> IndyGunFreak: it must what?
[11:57] <IndyGunFreak> azi: it must fetch packages from the network, i wasn't aware it did that
[11:57] <ShackJack> Intensity: True - but size doesn't matter... You should look up specs and see... Manuafacturer site will likely have it..
[11:57] <IndyGunFreak> azi: ive used the alt. cd a gazillion times, guess i never paid that close attention
[11:58] <jowi> Intensity: 1680x1050 is most likely the native resolution for your screen. the intel chipsets (I have 945GM) need 915 resolution to set higher/non-standard resolutions
[11:58] <azi> IndyGunFreak: ok
[11:58] <Gnea> chrisa: what video card?
[11:58] <chrisa> Gnea: 6800 xt using the latest nvidia binary driver
[11:58] <azi> IndyGunFreak: then i'm doomed ias i'm unable to configure the network the way i do on gentoo (ifconfig & route)
[11:58] <ShackJack> chrisa: You have an LCD mointor? Refresh shouldn't make that much of a difference - not the same as CRT - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refresh_rate
[11:58] <Gnea> chrisa: tried 60?
[11:59] <Gnea> chrisa: *60hz
[11:59] <IndyGunFreak> azi: hmm, isn't there like an ubuntu ultimate cd, that has most of the packages on the cd?
[11:59] <chrisa> ShackJack: My eyes can tell the difference, it causes quite a strain to even be below 60
[11:59] <alejandr0> hello, i need advice connecting to internet on wifi
[11:59] <ShackJack> chrisa: You might be able to "force" a refresh by editing xorg.conf - VertRefresh - 80.0-80.0 etc...
[11:59] <azi> IndyGunFreak: i don't know
[11:59] <IndyGunFreak> hold on
[11:59] <revilodraw> shackjack: upon startup, when i go into network manager, the wireless isnt working but the wireless box is checked... i uncheck it and recheck it and it works...
[11:59] <ShackJack> chrisa: I think that'd in your head honestly as it does not work the same way as it does with CRTs...
[12:00] <chrisa> You're wrong :)
[12:00] <jowi> chrisa: 50 or 60 or 100 won't make a difference on your eyes on an lcd screen. they don't work the same.
[12:00] <ShackJack> revilodraw: Perhaps enable roaming mode if it isn't already? I'm a little stumped, sorry...
[12:00] <alejandr0> hello, i need advice connecting to internet on wifi
[12:00] <chrisa> Then my eyes plainly don't work correctly anymore, because I don't have this issue working in windows on this monitor
[12:00] <Gnea> jowi: oh, it'll make a difference
[12:01] <IndyGunFreak> azi: hmm, it wasn't what i thought it was.
[12:01] <IndyGunFreak> azi: have youc onsidered trying a pure debian install?
[12:01] <revilodraw> shackjack: ok how do i enable roamin mode?
[12:01] <jowi> Gnea: i would say "might" make a difference. I don't notice it.