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LaserJockmoquist: around?12:20
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Cometehi12:34
Cometeanyone still alive here ?12:35
LaserJockI'm sure somebody is12:36
LaserJocksomewhere12:36
Cometehello LaserJock12:37
crimsunlies.  We're all dead.12:37
Cometei've got a problem with edubuntu 7.04 and ltsp 512:37
LaserJockComete: ok, what's the problem, I'm not sure I can help but I can take a stab at it12:38
Cometei use X_MODE_0 = 800x600 by default but the resolution stays too high on the clients, something like 1200x...12:38
Cometei don't understand why, it worked perfectly with ltsp 4.212:38
Cometethe problem is the same with all my clients, they are all different12:40
Cometenot the same graphic card12:40
LaserJockhmm12:40
LaserJocksbalneav: around?12:40
Cometei've tested with ati or vesa drivers... same problem...12:41
Cometeeven the intel ones12:41
LaserJockComete: I'm really not good with LTSP troubleshooting, have you tried #ltsp ?12:42
LaserJockI'm not sure if anybody else in here is paying attention ;-)12:42
CometeLaserJock: i'm on it but nobody answers12:42
LaserJockit's the weekend :/12:43
sbalneavLaserJock: yep12:43
sbalneavah12:43
sbalneavX_MODE doesn't work anymore12:44
sbalneavHave a look at the edubuntu handbook12:44
sbalneavYou'll need to lower the X_HORZSYNC ad X_VERTREFRESH I beleive12:44
LaserJockComete: ^^12:44
sbalneavbrb, off to cook din din12:44
moquistLaserJock: am now12:46
Cometesbalneav: really ?12:46
Cometesbalneav: ok i'll look at it thanks :)12:47
LaserJockmoquist: any progress on moodle12:47
moquistLaserJock: I am working on it today, as a matter of fact.12:47
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moquisthmm. an apt-get remove --purge moodle hung around after restarting apache12:47
moquistanyhow, now I'll apt-get install my newest test.12:48
moquistLaserJock: I just bumped the version from ubuntu1 to ubuntu2 to test. That seems like it was the right way to do it...12:48
moquistLaserJock: good ot hear from you12:48
LaserJockmoquist: yeah, you can do that (ubuntu1 to ubuntu2), you could also for test purposes add something on the end12:49
LaserJocklike ubuntu1~test112:49
moquistLaserJock: it was changing the package name that brought up those errors with removing the license files. before I changed the version to ubuntu2 I tried renaming my package moodle-alt, and right when I did the rename my pbuilder builds started failing with those old errors. when I leave the package named "moodle" and just change the version, it builds fine.12:49
LaserJockhmmm12:54
LaserJockit must be checking the directory name12:54
moquistLaserJock: I can upload the source package if you want to take a gander. The installation isn't working yet, though. (Or, it might be working, but I've sufficiently hosed my test system that I need to get a fresh one.)12:55
LaserJockhah12:56
LaserJockif you want to put it on REVU that'd be fine12:56
moquistis it considered good netiquitte to put half-baked stuff on there?12:57
LaserJocksure12:58
LaserJockpeople do it all the time ;-)12:59
=== moquist looks up elgamal
moquistUm, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU tells me I want an Elgamal key, but there aren't any links or other help. I have no idea what to do, and google hasn't been immediately helpful.01:02
LaserJocka what?01:03
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Cometesbalneav: X_HORZSYNC and X_VERTREFRESH don't let me choose the resolution ?01:03
LaserJockmoquist: hmm, I've never heard of that01:04
Cometei'm more and more convinced that ltsp5 is not a good idea...01:05
LaserJockLTSP5 has got a lot of advancements I think01:06
LaserJockbut enough has changed that I think sometimes takes some getting used to01:06
LaserJockmoquist: I don't think I'd worry about that. If you use gpg or seahorse to create your key I think you'll be fine01:07
moquistLaserJock: my key is all set. i'm installing dput now.01:13
moquistbut I have to go eat, so I'll get back to this later.01:13
sbalneavComete: No, but if you lower the horizsync and vert refresh, it will pop down into 800x60001:14
LaserJockhmm, I would think raising the refresh rates would do that01:16
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sbalneavNope, lowering the refresh rates.01:17
sbalneavComete: The other way to do it is to specify a custom xorg.conf file.01:18
Cometesbalneav: so i should know the vertical and horizontal refresh rate of all the screens ?01:20
moquistLaserJock: thanks01:20
sbalneavWell, by default, xorg queries the screen, and asks it what it's best refresh rate is.01:21
Cometeltsp has done a jump in the past...01:21
sbalneavSo unless you've got a REALLY old monitor there, it "just works" by default.01:21
Cometesbalneav: i don't consider 1200x1024 to be a good resolution for a 15" monitor01:22
sbalneavSo, you've got an old 15 inch monitor that doesn't report correctly.01:22
sbalneavSo, xorg just "guesses" a bad resolution.01:22
Cometeno i've got 20 old monitors...01:22
sbalneavok, so like I say:01:23
sbalneavadjust X_VERTREFRESH and X_HORZSYNC, or, come up with a default xorg.conf file for those monitors, and use the XF86CONFIG_FILE = /path/to/file to set it.01:23
sbalneavEither will work.01:24
Cometesbalneav: ok, do you know why the X_MODE_ option was removed ?01:24
sbalneavWe use the debian xorg packages now, and use the preseeding mechanism to configure them....01:25
Comete...01:25
sbalneavthe debian packages allow you to preseed the xhorizsync and vertrefresh, but DONT allow you to preseed the resolution.01:26
Cometesbalneav: is there a mean to detect the range for xhorizsync and vertrefresh on a monitor, because i have no manuals for those monitors ?01:27
sbalneavYou could just EXPERIMENT with some values.01:28
sbalneavGoogle, also, will have answers01:28
sbalneavX_VERTREFRESH of 30-65, and X_HORIZSYNC of 45-65 would be good places to start.01:29
sbalneavOr, like I say:01:29
sbalneavcp /etc/X11/xorg.conf to /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/X11/xorg.oldmonitor.conf01:29
sbalneavedit, and set the video driver, and X_MODE to 800x60001:30
sbalneavXF86CONFIG_FILE = /etc/X11/xorg.oldmonitor.conf in your lts.conf01:30
Cometesbalneav: thanks a lot :)01:30
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crosverahi people04:01
crosveraI have a question, the thinclients can use owns cd-readers/writers and usb ports to use pendrives?04:02
LaserJockI think the users need to be in the fuse group on the server04:16
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crosverao thanks folk04:18
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Obledholaaa04:26
Obledhay alguien ke sepa como compartir internet04:26
crosveraobled04:33
crosveraestas?04:34
Obledsip04:34
Obledme puedes04:34
Obledayudar con el audio04:34
crosverahttp://www.boksar.info/index.php/2006/10/21/compartir-internet-con-linuxsharing-internet-on-linux/04:35
crosveraese link para que leas como compartir inet04:35
crosveraque te pasa con l audio04:35
Obledlo ke pasa04:35
Obledes ke ayer estaba todo bien04:35
Obledy hoy ke prendi mi compu ya no se escucho nada04:35
crosveraen que distro estas?04:35
Obledubuntu04:35
crosverahttp://www.antro.cl/comunidad/showthread.php?t=32185404:36
crosverave ese link04:36
Obledok04:38
Obleddeja lo checo04:38
Obledgracias!04:38
crosverade nada04:38
Obledoye creo ke ya salio algo04:42
Obledespera04:42
crosveraque cosa?04:43
Obledoye04:45
Obledya le subi el volumen04:46
Obledcomo esta en el link04:46
crosveray funciona04:46
Obledpero ahora como guardo los cambios :o)04:46
crosveracierra nomas pos04:46
Obledno lo se deja lo checo04:46
Obledoye ke bien04:47
Obledya agarro de nuevo04:47
Obledgracias04:47
Obledde nuevo04:47
Obledya solo tengo ke arreglar lo de mi inter04:47
Obledlo ke pasa04:47
Obledes ke kiero compartir internet04:48
Obledde UBUNTU>win Xp04:48
crosverapppoe?04:48
Obled...?04:49
Obledsi04:49
Obledcompartir net de mi makina con ubuntu a otra makina con win XP04:50
crosveradebes tener dos tarjetas de red04:50
crosverahttp://mcbrain.powers.cl/?p=26704:50
Obledsi04:52
Obledtengo dos tarjetas04:52
Obledantes tenia la red compartida04:52
Obledpero tenia en las dos makinas04:52
Obledwin XP04:52
Obledahora ke soy nuevo en Ubuntu04:52
Obledpues la verdad estoy en blanco04:52
Obled:o104:52
crosverave el link04:53
Obledok espera04:54
Obledoye los comandos04:56
Obledson los mismos para debian ke para ubuntu?04:56
crosverasi04:56
crosveraubuntu se basa en debian04:56
sbalneavHmmm, just realized that the greeter for ldm2 doesn't have a cancel button.05:02
sbalneavThat's bad.05:02
Obledheee05:03
Obledok05:03
Obledkiza es ignorancia de mi parte05:03
Obledpero esto de linux es algo nuevo para mi05:03
Obled:o105:03
Obledaun asi, gracias por la ayuda05:04
Obleddejame leer el link05:04
Obledpara ver como arreglo lo de la net!05:04
Obledamable publico no tardo ahorita regreso05:06
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azeplop10:30
highvoltageplep10:31
azehighvoltage: hi10:32
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winndixiehi02:44
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sbalneavMorning all03:57
highvoltagehey sbalneav03:59
sbalneavHey highvoltage03:59
encompassGood morning sbalneav04:04
sbalneavMorning04:05
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moquisthey09:49
moquistanybody awake in here?09:49
sbalneavme09:54
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ray_hi any one help me with edubuntu for a sec12:07
ray_how i open /user/lib with root12:07
ray_i for got or brain deqad today12:07

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