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[12:20] <LaserJock> moquist: around?
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[12:34] <Comete> hi
[12:35] <Comete> anyone still alive here ?
[12:36] <LaserJock> I'm sure somebody is
[12:36] <LaserJock> somewhere
[12:37] <Comete> hello LaserJock
[12:37] <crimsun> lies.  We're all dead.
[12:37] <Comete> i've got a problem with edubuntu 7.04 and ltsp 5
[12:38] <LaserJock> Comete: ok, what's the problem, I'm not sure I can help but I can take a stab at it
[12:38] <Comete> i use X_MODE_0 = 800x600 by default but the resolution stays too high on the clients, something like 1200x...
[12:38] <Comete> i don't understand why, it worked perfectly with ltsp 4.2
[12:40] <Comete> the problem is the same with all my clients, they are all different
[12:40] <Comete> not the same graphic card
[12:40] <LaserJock> hmm
[12:40] <LaserJock> sbalneav: around?
[12:41] <Comete> i've tested with ati or vesa drivers... same problem...
[12:41] <Comete> even the intel ones
[12:42] <LaserJock> Comete: I'm really not good with LTSP troubleshooting, have you tried #ltsp ?
[12:42] <LaserJock> I'm not sure if anybody else in here is paying attention ;-)
[12:42] <Comete> LaserJock: i'm on it but nobody answers
[12:43] <LaserJock> it's the weekend :/
[12:43] <sbalneav> LaserJock: yep
[12:43] <sbalneav> ah
[12:44] <sbalneav> X_MODE doesn't work anymore
[12:44] <sbalneav> Have a look at the edubuntu handbook
[12:44] <sbalneav> You'll need to lower the X_HORZSYNC ad X_VERTREFRESH I beleive
[12:44] <LaserJock> Comete: ^^
[12:44] <sbalneav> brb, off to cook din din
[12:46] <moquist> LaserJock: am now
[12:46] <Comete> sbalneav: really ?
[12:47] <Comete> sbalneav: ok i'll look at it thanks :)
[12:47] <LaserJock> moquist: any progress on moodle
[12:47] <moquist> LaserJock: I am working on it today, as a matter of fact.
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[12:47] <moquist> hmm. an apt-get remove --purge moodle hung around after restarting apache
[12:48] <moquist> anyhow, now I'll apt-get install my newest test.
[12:48] <moquist> LaserJock: I just bumped the version from ubuntu1 to ubuntu2 to test. That seems like it was the right way to do it...
[12:48] <moquist> LaserJock: good ot hear from you
[12:49] <LaserJock> moquist: yeah, you can do that (ubuntu1 to ubuntu2), you could also for test purposes add something on the end
[12:49] <LaserJock> like ubuntu1~test1
[12:49] <moquist> LaserJock: it was changing the package name that brought up those errors with removing the license files. before I changed the version to ubuntu2 I tried renaming my package moodle-alt, and right when I did the rename my pbuilder builds started failing with those old errors. when I leave the package named "moodle" and just change the version, it builds fine.
[12:54] <LaserJock> hmmm
[12:54] <LaserJock> it must be checking the directory name
[12:55] <moquist> LaserJock: I can upload the source package if you want to take a gander. The installation isn't working yet, though. (Or, it might be working, but I've sufficiently hosed my test system that I need to get a fresh one.)
[12:56] <LaserJock> hah
[12:56] <LaserJock> if you want to put it on REVU that'd be fine
[12:57] <moquist> is it considered good netiquitte to put half-baked stuff on there?
[12:58] <LaserJock> sure
[12:59] <LaserJock> people do it all the time ;-)
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[01:02] <moquist> Um, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU tells me I want an Elgamal key, but there aren't any links or other help. I have no idea what to do, and google hasn't been immediately helpful.
[01:03] <LaserJock> a what?
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[01:03] <Comete> sbalneav: X_HORZSYNC and X_VERTREFRESH don't let me choose the resolution ?
[01:04] <LaserJock> moquist: hmm, I've never heard of that
[01:05] <Comete> i'm more and more convinced that ltsp5 is not a good idea...
[01:06] <LaserJock> LTSP5 has got a lot of advancements I think
[01:06] <LaserJock> but enough has changed that I think sometimes takes some getting used to
[01:07] <LaserJock> moquist: I don't think I'd worry about that. If you use gpg or seahorse to create your key I think you'll be fine
[01:13] <moquist> LaserJock: my key is all set. i'm installing dput now.
[01:13] <moquist> but I have to go eat, so I'll get back to this later.
[01:14] <sbalneav> Comete: No, but if you lower the horizsync and vert refresh, it will pop down into 800x600
[01:16] <LaserJock> hmm, I would think raising the refresh rates would do that
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[01:17] <sbalneav> Nope, lowering the refresh rates.
[01:18] <sbalneav> Comete: The other way to do it is to specify a custom xorg.conf file.
[01:20] <Comete> sbalneav: so i should know the vertical and horizontal refresh rate of all the screens ?
[01:20] <moquist> LaserJock: thanks
[01:21] <sbalneav> Well, by default, xorg queries the screen, and asks it what it's best refresh rate is.
[01:21] <Comete> ltsp has done a jump in the past...
[01:21] <sbalneav> So unless you've got a REALLY old monitor there, it "just works" by default.
[01:22] <Comete> sbalneav: i don't consider 1200x1024 to be a good resolution for a 15" monitor
[01:22] <sbalneav> So, you've got an old 15 inch monitor that doesn't report correctly.
[01:22] <sbalneav> So, xorg just "guesses" a bad resolution.
[01:22] <Comete> no i've got 20 old monitors...
[01:23] <sbalneav> ok, so like I say:
[01:23] <sbalneav> adjust X_VERTREFRESH and X_HORZSYNC, or, come up with a default xorg.conf file for those monitors, and use the XF86CONFIG_FILE = /path/to/file to set it.
[01:24] <sbalneav> Either will work.
[01:24] <Comete> sbalneav: ok, do you know why the X_MODE_ option was removed ?
[01:25] <sbalneav> We use the debian xorg packages now, and use the preseeding mechanism to configure them....
[01:25] <Comete> ...
[01:26] <sbalneav> the debian packages allow you to preseed the xhorizsync and vertrefresh, but DONT allow you to preseed the resolution.
[01:27] <Comete> sbalneav: is there a mean to detect the range for xhorizsync and vertrefresh on a monitor, because i have no manuals for those monitors ?
[01:28] <sbalneav> You could just EXPERIMENT with some values.
[01:28] <sbalneav> Google, also, will have answers
[01:29] <sbalneav> X_VERTREFRESH of 30-65, and X_HORIZSYNC of 45-65 would be good places to start.
[01:29] <sbalneav> Or, like I say:
[01:29] <sbalneav> cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf to /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/X11/xorg.oldmonitor.conf
[01:30] <sbalneav> edit, and set the video driver, and X_MODE to 800x600
[01:30] <sbalneav> XF86CONFIG_FILE = /etc/X11/xorg.oldmonitor.conf in your lts.conf
[01:30] <Comete> sbalneav: thanks a lot :)
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[04:01] <crosvera> hi people
[04:02] <crosvera> I have a question, the thinclients can use owns cd-readers/writers and usb ports to use pendrives?
[04:16] <LaserJock> I think the users need to be in the fuse group on the server
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[04:18] <crosvera> o thanks folk
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[04:26] <Obled> holaaa
[04:26] <Obled> hay alguien ke sepa como compartir internet
[04:33] <crosvera> obled
[04:34] <crosvera> estas?
[04:34] <Obled> sip
[04:34] <Obled> me puedes
[04:34] <Obled> ayudar con el audio
[04:35] <crosvera> http://www.boksar.info/index.php/2006/10/21/compartir-internet-con-linuxsharing-internet-on-linux/
[04:35] <crosvera> ese link para que leas como compartir inet
[04:35] <crosvera> que te pasa con l audio
[04:35] <Obled> lo ke pasa
[04:35] <Obled> es ke ayer estaba todo bien
[04:35] <Obled> y hoy ke prendi mi compu ya no se escucho nada
[04:35] <crosvera> en que distro estas?
[04:35] <Obled> ubuntu
[04:36] <crosvera> http://www.antro.cl/comunidad/showthread.php?t=321854
[04:36] <crosvera> ve ese link
[04:38] <Obled> ok
[04:38] <Obled> deja lo checo
[04:38] <Obled> gracias!
[04:38] <crosvera> de nada
[04:42] <Obled> oye creo ke ya salio algo
[04:42] <Obled> espera
[04:43] <crosvera> que cosa?
[04:45] <Obled> oye
[04:46] <Obled> ya le subi el volumen
[04:46] <Obled> como esta en el link
[04:46] <crosvera> y funciona
[04:46] <Obled> pero ahora como guardo los cambios :o)
[04:46] <crosvera> cierra nomas pos
[04:46] <Obled> no lo se deja lo checo
[04:47] <Obled> oye ke bien
[04:47] <Obled> ya agarro de nuevo
[04:47] <Obled> gracias
[04:47] <Obled> de nuevo
[04:47] <Obled> ya solo tengo ke arreglar lo de mi inter
[04:47] <Obled> lo ke pasa
[04:48] <Obled> es ke kiero compartir internet
[04:48] <Obled> de UBUNTU>win Xp
[04:48] <crosvera> pppoe?
[04:49] <Obled> ...?
[04:49] <Obled> si
[04:50] <Obled> compartir net de mi makina con ubuntu a otra makina con win XP
[04:50] <crosvera> debes tener dos tarjetas de red
[04:50] <crosvera> http://mcbrain.powers.cl/?p=267
[04:52] <Obled> si
[04:52] <Obled> tengo dos tarjetas
[04:52] <Obled> antes tenia la red compartida
[04:52] <Obled> pero tenia en las dos makinas
[04:52] <Obled> win XP
[04:52] <Obled> ahora ke soy nuevo en Ubuntu
[04:52] <Obled> pues la verdad estoy en blanco
[04:52] <Obled> :o1
[04:53] <crosvera> ve el link
[04:54] <Obled> ok espera
[04:56] <Obled> oye los comandos
[04:56] <Obled> son los mismos para debian ke para ubuntu?
[04:56] <crosvera> si
[04:56] <crosvera> ubuntu se basa en debian
[05:02] <sbalneav> Hmmm, just realized that the greeter for ldm2 doesn't have a cancel button.
[05:02] <sbalneav> That's bad.
[05:03] <Obled> heee
[05:03] <Obled> ok
[05:03] <Obled> kiza es ignorancia de mi parte
[05:03] <Obled> pero esto de linux es algo nuevo para mi
[05:03] <Obled> :o1
[05:04] <Obled> aun asi, gracias por la ayuda
[05:04] <Obled> dejame leer el link
[05:04] <Obled> para ver como arreglo lo de la net!
[05:06] <Obled> amable publico no tardo ahorita regreso
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[10:30] <aze> plop
[10:31] <highvoltage> plep
[10:32] <aze> highvoltage: hi
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[02:44] <winndixie> hi
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[03:57] <sbalneav> Morning all
[03:59] <highvoltage> hey sbalneav
[03:59] <sbalneav> Hey highvoltage
[04:04] <encompass> Good morning sbalneav
[04:05] <sbalneav> Morning
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[09:49] <moquist> hey
[09:49] <moquist> anybody awake in here?
[09:54] <sbalneav> me
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[12:07] <ray_> hi any one help me with edubuntu for a sec
[12:07] <ray_> how i open /user/lib with root
[12:07] <ray_> i for got or brain deqad today