[12:15] <nixternal> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31728/
[12:15] <nixternal> those are the errors there
[12:15] <nixternal> I notice now there are 2 GLib errors and 1 Gtk erro, where as before it was vice versa
[12:16] <crimsun> oh, neat.
[12:16] <crimsun> that's probably the same error that's causing OO.O to fail
[12:16] <crimsun> OO.o, rather
[12:16] <nixternal> yes
[12:16] <nixternal> and I was told to blame it on Gtk :)
[12:17] <nixternal> I filed a bug on it
[12:18] <nixternal> bug 127876
[12:18] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 127876 in kdebase "Konqueror and Adobe Flashplayer - Konqui locks up" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127876
[12:18] <nixternal> I wonder if I should move this from kdebase to libgtk
[12:19] <nixternal> man, these big dumb fonts in lp are annoying
[12:19] <crimsun> it's 127944
[12:25] <nixternal> ya, I just marked mine and 2 others as duplicates
[12:25] <nixternal> hrmm, I didn't realise I reported the bug first...but that report had more attention, so I just made mine a duplicate of it
[12:26] <crimsun> right
[02:40] <manchicken> Emacs is failing to upgrade.  I've posted bug #128978
[02:40] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 128978 in emacs22 "package emacs 22.1-0ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128978
[02:42] <manchicken> I'm going to be testing tribe-1 on my little sister's machine.
[02:43] <manchicken> It's been hosed for a while, so I'm going to fix it up and set up Kubuntu on it.
[02:43] <ryanakca> manchicken: I can confirm
[02:44] <manchicken> Also, anybody who's interested, the maintainers and developers of Mumble (the Free Software teamspeak-like program) have contacted me asking for an Ubuntu maintainer.
[02:44] <manchicken> I think they're Qt-based, so I thought it might be a good idea if we had a kubuntu-based motu who might be interested in it.
[02:45] <ryanakca> Hmm. Debian maintainers? Or upstream maintainers?
[02:45] <manchicken> Debian
[02:45] <ryanakca> Ah. hmm
[02:45] <manchicken> They're still going to keep hacking it, they just need a package maintainer, I thin.
[02:45] <manchicken> think*
[02:45] <manchicken> And sponsor.
[02:46] <manchicken> They have both a client and a server.
[02:46] <manchicken> I don't know if we'd want this to be a main package since it has a bit of a fringe use, but I could definitely see users wanting a program like this.
[02:47] <crimsun> at this stage, I recommend strongly deferring a maininclusionreport until LTS+1
[02:47] <crimsun> [gutsy+1] 
[02:47] <crimsun> it would be fine for gutsy/universe, however
[02:48] <manchicken> I'm thinking it would make sense to keep this package in universe indefinitely.
[02:48] <manchicken> As I said, it's going to have a very small install-base, so I see no need for us to maintain it ourselves.
[02:56] <manchicken> Any takers?  This guy seems eager.
[02:56] <crimsun> it would be a better idea to shoot an email to ubuntu-motu@
[02:56] <crimsun> (or ask in that channel, though I recommend the former first)
[03:08] <manchicken> I sent to the list.
[04:22] <manchicken> Is k3b hosed or something?
[05:11] <manchicken> I am unable to get a good burn off of the current gutsy ISO using k3b.
[05:11] <manchicken> The md5's match up, but for some reason I just can't get a good burn.
[05:11] <manchicken> I've tried 4 different discs.
[05:36] <crimsun> manchicken_: is wodim suid root?
[05:37] <crimsun> on my HP Pavilion, I cannot burn reliably unless it is [so it can gain realtime scheduling] 
[05:37] <crimsun> i.e., simply enabling burnfree is insufficient
[06:23] <manchicken_> Arg, we don't have libpisock9 with debug symbols...
[08:35] <freeflying> bug #128952
[08:35] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 128952 in kubuntu-meta "Kubuntu is not localized according to system settings" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128952
[11:26] <backtick> hi all, i installed the packages of kde 4 alpha 2 and am trying to setup a full session.. i followed the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha2.php but startkde failes with ".: 85: Can't open /home/backtick/.kde4/share/config/startupconfig"
[11:28] <backtick> any idea what is startupconfig/why is it missing?
[12:38] <Hobbsee> Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Merge! http://merges.ubuntu.com | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | Meeting on 1/8/07 @ 2100 UTC - see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings
[01:19] <hein> Riddell: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148311 <- any progress on this?
[01:19] <ubotu> KDE bug 148311 in general "Should look more like other KDE applications by default" [Wishlist,Resolved: invalid] 
[02:46] <hunger> Is it possible that Xephyr is not too stable?
[04:50] <Hobbsee> hiya mhb
[04:51] <mhb> Hobbsee: I can't find the minutes from our last meeting, did someone do them?
[04:51] <Hobbsee> mhb: i think nixternal was going to, i think he may have
[04:52] <mhb> Hobbsee: and the other thing: can I clean up the meeting agenda?
[04:52] <mhb> Hobbsee: I still see the old points & the old date
[04:52] <Hobbsee> mhb: yes, please do so
[04:53] <mhb> Hobbsee: do we have some new agenda points to add?
[04:53] <Hobbsee> mhb: somewhere.  i think
[04:57] <mhb> Hobbsee: did you talk with the fridge guys about putting the date on the event page?
[04:57] <Hobbsee> mhb: they're cc'd on the email, i havent spoken to them specifically
[04:58] <mhb> Hobbsee: ah, okay then.
[05:51] <manchicken_> Yay!  Is the emacs package fixed/
[06:45] <ScottK> manchicken_: I was about to reply to your mumble message to *-motu, but then I notice I recognized the e-mail address.  Why not just file a needs-packaging bug or package it yourself?
[07:48] <hunger> Konqueror keeps freezing for me today. Any known bugs about that open?
[07:52] <nixternal> hunger: yes, it is GTK and nspluginviewer not playing nice still
[07:53] <nixternal> it should only freeze on sites with flash
[07:53] <nixternal> it has been happening now for a week or so...very annoying
[07:53] <hunger> nixternal: Thanks for the tip. I already suspected flash;-)
[07:53] <nixternal> ya, this bug is the one killing OOo as well
[07:53] <hunger> OOo is broken?
[07:53] <hunger> Hadn't noticed that yet.
[07:53] <nixternal> it is for me still
[07:54] <hunger> Well, not more broken than it always is that is.
[07:54] <nixternal> haha
[08:59] <mhb> any compiz-fusion specialist here today?
[08:59] <nixternal> heh, definitely not I
[08:59] <mhb> a kubuntu-gutsy-plan subscriber would be lovely
[08:59] <nixternal> I have it up and running, but I can't figure out the fusion part
[09:02] <mhb> nixternal: do you have compiz-fusion with aquamarine, or do you know what happened to the KControl configuration modules
[09:02] <innovati> mmm when's gutsy planned on coming out?
[09:03] <mhb> ?
[09:03] <mhb> innovati: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GutsyReleaseSchedule
[09:03] <innovati> mhb: thanks
[09:04] <innovati> I'm interested in doing artwork, wondering if it's worth trying before gutsy gets out or focus on after
[09:06] <nixternal> mhb: I have no clue what I have..I just installed it according to the wiki
[09:06] <nixternal> oh, and I have it at gnome
[09:06] <nixternal> s/at/on
[09:08] <nixternal> hunger: ya it is..I had to setup xgl and all of that garbage just to get my radeon to work
[09:10] <mhb> nixternal: apt-cache search shows neither beryl-kubuntu nor anything with aquamarine (but that may be in a different package)
[09:10] <nixternal> only think I know of is compiz-kde
[09:11] <ScottK> beryl was removed from Gutsy.
[09:12] <mhb> ScottK: I thought that, but I thought the kcontrol would be merged into something
[09:12] <mhb> I can't find any kcontrol module for compiz even after installing compiz-kde (maybe I'm stupid or something)
[09:15] <ScottK> AFAIK they just did a mass removal.
[09:21] <mhb> ScottK: ah, thanks for the information.
[09:21] <mhb> perhaps a meeting agenda point, or jr might know
[09:37] <fdoving> mhb: the previous beryl kcontrol module was provided by the aquamarine package. (3rdparty sourcE)
[10:36] <_StefanS_> evening
[10:40] <innovati> afternoon'
[10:46] <fdoving> anyone got gutsy and this new dolphin/d3lphin and some iso files? (trying to confirm a bug i experience)
[11:02] <_StefanS_> fdoving: I have
[11:02] <_StefanS_> fdoving: what you do you want tested?
[11:09] <_StefanS_> fdoving: it complains about an invalid desktop entry "OpenISO"
[11:10] <_StefanS_> fdoving: whenever I'm hovering over and iso that is..
[11:10] <_StefanS_> and/an
[11:15] <fdoving> yep, it was that.
[11:15] <fdoving> broken .desktop file.
[11:18] <ScottK> Well I got an updated gpgme to build, just need to clean up debian/rules.
[11:18] <ScottK> With luck I'll have it uploaded tonight or tomorrow and then the kde4 stuff can proceed.
[11:21] <_StefanS_> fdoving: so the test is over ? :)
[11:21] <fdoving> _StefanS_: yeah, now you can fix it :)
[11:21] <_StefanS_> fdoving: hey was I supposed to do that ? :)
[11:22] <fdoving> no, but i need to go. if you don't, i'll try to do it tomorrow :)
[11:23] <_StefanS_> fdoving: please do, as I dont know how to properly define the openiso action :)
[11:24] <fdoving>  i think it is missing an Exec= line
[11:24] <fdoving> if you just add 'Exec=' it should stop complaining.
[11:25] <fdoving> comparing to feisty the feisty .desktop got that empty 'Exec='
[11:26] <fdoving> I need to go, bye.