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Daisuke_Idotrying to decide what's a better idea: a 17" widescreen 1680x1050 or a 17" widescreen 1920x120012:36
Daisuke_Idoanyone with experience have any advice, especially when it comes to kubuntu (as that will be the primary OS)12:36
crimsundepends on your usage patterns12:37
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Daisuke_Idoi would imagine that everything on the 1920 would be extremely small >_>12:37
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crimsuncan you "test-drive" at a local store?12:38
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Daisuke_Idowon't be exactly the same (i'm comparing similarly equipped notebooks from two different manufacturers)12:38
Daisuke_Idobut i should be able to12:38
Daisuke_Idoi'm thinking the 1680 would be more than enough for what i do.  not really a gamer, and while i watch quite a bit of video, i don't watch anything extremely high resolution12:39
adeniciocrimsun: how to add adres to reposatory?12:39
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twylightneed help fast12:49
twylighttried to install a package12:49
twylightit broke apt-get12:49
WhtWolfTeraDynetwylight: were you using adept?12:49
WhtWolfTeraDyne!aptfix12:50
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 12:50
twylightapt-get refuses to do anything until the package is reinstalled12:50
twylightbut the package doesn't exist12:50
twylightno12:50
twylightI downloaded a .deb file12:50
twylightkubuntu package manager -> install package12:50
WhtWolfTeraDynedid you try the advice i had ubotu put up?12:51
twylightone second12:52
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Daisuke_Idodpkg --configure -a12:55
Daisuke_Idosuch a simple thing, but it solves oh so many problems :D12:55
twylighttried that12:56
twylightdidn't work12:56
Daisuke_Idowas this a .deb designed for ubuntu, or for debian?12:58
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twylightprobably debian12:59
twylightI got it at getdeb.net01:00
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twylightbut it said compatible with ubuntu feisty 32 bit01:00
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WhtWolfTeraDyneWhat app or whatever was it?01:00
twylightsecondlife-install01:01
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[ifr0g] hi, how do i bring up eth0 everytime i connect ?01:13
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[ifr0g] automatically ..01:13
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LeeJunFan[ifr0g] : you need to add it to /etc/network/interfaces01:14
LeeJunFanman interfaces01:14
[ifr0g] LeeJunFan, well, i did that..01:14
[ifr0g] LeeJunFan, sorry actually its wlan001:14
[ifr0g] And i did use static .. config01:15
[ifr0g] in there.01:15
LeeJunFandid you add the auto eth0 line?01:16
[ifr0g] checking..01:16
twylightso I guess my problem is unsolvable?01:17
[ifr0g] yes, i did..just above the iface wlan0 inet static line..01:17
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LeeJunFan[ifr0g] : wlan0 or eth0?01:17
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[ifr0g] wlan001:18
LeeJunFan[ifr0g] : your orig question was about eth0. Is eth0 what you wanted to auto start?01:18
[ifr0g] Well i said above.. LeeJunFan, sorry actually its wlan001:19
LeeJunFanokay, wireless may be different because we'll have to make it join the right network.01:19
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Sheazscheretarded kubuntu is not letting me access my ntfs usb drive01:19
Sheazschepermission denied, wtf01:20
twylight<.<01:20
twylight>.>01:20
twylight<.>01:20
twylight>.<01:20
[ifr0g] LeeJunFan, Well, i put it on ad-hoc mode, and in edgy it comes up auto ..01:20
twylightso apt-get is still broken01:20
LeeJunFan[ifr0g] : normally with kubuntu it should join automatically when it's in range of a wireless network it's been configured for with knetworkmanager.01:20
LeeJunFanah edgy, nevermind.01:20
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LeeJunFanknetworkmanager wasn't in edgy I think.01:21
[ifr0g] LeeJunFan, huh, i removed knetworkmanager..01:21
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[ifr0g] I did an upgrade 2 days back01:21
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zeeleckAlguin habla Espaol xD?01:21
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LeeJunFan[ifr0g] : okay. hrm. well as long as it's not WPA encrypted it should be straightforward.01:22
[ifr0g] LeeJunFan,  its not..01:22
zeeleckexit01:22
zeeleckxDDDD01:22
[ifr0g] LeeJunFan, what is the if-up.d for ?01:22
LeeJunFan[ifr0g] : you can pass info for the wireless like wep in the interfaces file by prefixing wireless- to it.01:22
redshadowherohow do I enable mp3 encoding/ripping for K3b?01:22
LeeJunFan[ifr0g] : like wireless-essid [your network name] 01:22
LeeJunFan[ifr0g] : wireless-enc [your wep key] 01:22
[ifr0g] LeeJunFan, done that.01:22
LeeJunFan!restricted | redshadowhero01:23
uboturedshadowhero: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:23
LeeJunFan[ifr0g] : I guess I'd check to see if it's doing anything that's in your interfaces file at all. eg. after rebooting use iwconfig to see if it configed the right network settings, ifconfig to see if it set the IP but didn't up the device, etc...01:24
jchonigGood day.01:27
redshadowheroLeeJunFan: I installed that package, but I can't seem to figure out how to rip them from a CD in K3b01:27
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[ifr0g] LeeJunFan, yes, it does config it right, but doest up it..01:27
[ifr0g] i have to do it manually every time.01:27
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jchonigAnyone know how to get files in .kde/Autostart to be run on the second display (i.e. multi-monitor but not Xinerama)?01:28
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LeeJunFansry redshadowhero it's been ages since I've done it myself.01:31
LeeJunFan[ifr0g] : can you pastebin your interfaces file?01:31
redshadowheroLeeJunFan: actually, it failed because lame wasn't installed; so I used "sudo apt-get install lame"01:32
redshadowheroLeeJunFan: I think that might work.01:32
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[ifr0g] LeeJunFan, ok, a little  more info first.. just a sec01:32
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[ifr0g] LeeJunFan, i am using ndiswrapper on w wifidougle.. the device is workes  great.  But lately i have to reconfigure everytime i boot..Now for the pastebin..just a sec01:35
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LeeJunFanjchonig: does it use a different display #? like :1 or something?01:36
LeeJunFanjchonig: if so - some applications will allow you to pass a display # try [appname]  --help, or you'd have to write a small script to change the DISPLAY env variable then run those apps.01:36
[ifr0g] LeeJunFan, here... http://pastebin.ca/63754201:37
rubicongot it01:37
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rubiconit was the BIOS that messed my 3D Acceleration up01:38
[ifr0g] LeeJunFan, i did notice iwconfig showing the settings right.. but not ifconfig.01:38
rubicon*boom chicka wah wah*01:38
rubicon'night :-)01:38
[ifr0g] rubicon, how come ??01:38
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[ifr0g] opps.01:38
LeeJunFan[ifr0g] : everything looks fine there, I wonder if it's something to do with the device not being ready in time after ndiswrapper loads it? I've never worked with ndiswrapper before. If you can manually config the network up after the machine boots w/o a problem it sounds like there's something it needs for that device that's starting AFTER networking.01:41
LeeJunFan[ifr0g] : you might try adding a line 'post-up ifconfig wlan0 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up' which would manually run the ifconfig commands to ifup the interface.01:42
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[ifr0g] LeeJunFan, I though there would be  another config file to bring up the interface everytime i sees a device eg:- wlan0.. being created.01:43
dingus9hey ok just encounterd an odd problem01:43
LeeJunFannormally post-up would of course be run after the device is up, but maybe (just maybe) if it's not starting correctly during networking startup, it'll start then.01:43
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LeeJunFan[ifr0g] : no, you must be used to redhat/mandrake?01:43
[ifr0g] LeeJunFan, huh, i did use mandriva long time back.. :)01:44
[ifr0g] i will try that line.01:44
dingus9machine boots, but cannot mount the hda1, I used a live cd, fsck.ext3'd the partition, and I was able to mount it fine. its reading the kernel, and the kernel is specifying /dev/hda1 for the root01:44
LeeJunFan[ifr0g] : mandrake/mandriva - same thing. :) Mandriva uses a different network config which has different files for each device.01:44
dingus9still wont mount my root fs01:44
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[ifr0g] yeah ..01:44
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LeeJunFandingus9: you have root=/dev/hda1 in your loader config? or is it one of those long ID lines?01:45
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vbgunzAnybody have steam running through Wine here? would you know why the game is jittering? not horrible but jittering, jumpy... playable but jittery?01:48
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LeeJunFanvbgunz: I forget the command but there's a commandline thing you want to pass to the steam executable to get it to use direct X 8 I think - which is more compatible.01:50
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LeeJunFanI imagine in #wine someone would know right off the bat.01:50
LeeJunFansry #winehq01:51
vbgunzLeeJunFan: thank you, will check there also01:51
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elite101##windows (dont mind me at all)01:52
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elite101hey01:52
dingus9LeeJunFan: well I just tried changing it to sda1, since it seems the new install uses a sda for my ide disk(also changed fstab), just got waiting for filesystem.... so basically the fs is not being connected on any of the kernels defined in menu.lst01:52
dingus9LeeJunFan: I am rechecking the fs something must be wrong with it01:55
LeeJunFan!libata | dingus901:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:59
LeeJunFan!libide01:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:59
LeeJunFanwth, hehe. Brain fart.02:00
WhtWolfTeraDyne!info libata02:00
ubotuPackage libata does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas02:00
LeeJunFan!uuid02:00
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)02:00
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Roeyhi all02:02
RoeyBiovore, WhtWolfTeraDyne :  How is this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51207702:02
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RoeyCan anyone help me with these problems:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51207702:03
boris__Segmentation fault (core dumped)02:03
boris__me too02:03
boris__liz02:03
affanhi all. I installed beryl-manager but whenever i run it I lose the title-bar for all windows. Do you know how to fix it? thanks!02:03
LeeJunFanholy crap - overload :)02:03
RoeyLeeJunFan:  where?02:03
LeeJunFanRoey: the list of problems you have. hehe02:04
affan!beryl02:04
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects02:04
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boris__goods know02:04
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astarothhi everybody02:05
boris__hi02:05
WhtWolfTeraDyneRoey: You gave plenty of info as far as I can tell. Hopefully someone will be able to help there.02:05
WhtWolfTeraDynehi02:05
Biovorehttp://blog.blackdown.de/2005/04/03/logitech-mx1000-configuration/ <-- MX1000 mouse config.. Works for me..02:05
Biovore!worksforme02:05
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.02:05
boris__me as well02:05
boris__:)02:05
boris__one day02:05
boris__:)02:05
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WhtWolfTeraDyneboris__: what's the problem?02:06
boris__well02:06
boris__when i tray to stest02:06
boris__it throws02:07
boris__Segmentation fault (core dumped)02:07
boris__what is thet02:07
WhtWolfTeraDynetray to stest?02:07
boris__i can get the simulator02:07
boris__stage02:07
boris__stest simple.world robot02:07
boris__do you know for player stage02:08
boris__robot sinulator02:08
boris__simulator02:08
boris__http://playerstage.sourceforge.net/02:08
boris__ [Loading simple.world] err: unable to open world file simple.world : No such file or directory (worldfile.cc Load)02:09
boris__Segmentation fault (core dumped)02:09
boris__wht is thet segmentation fault02:09
Biovoreprogram is accessing memory its shouldn't02:10
boris__no medicin for it02:10
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boris__;(02:10
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WhtWolfTeraDyneMight want to post about it on their bug tracker.02:11
BiovoreIts my guess its probably doing it because it running delete on a null pointer02:11
Biovorebecause it didn't configure correctly02:11
boris__complicate02:11
boris__to do all02:11
boris__again02:12
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RoeyLeeJunFan:  somehow it affects only me.02:12
RoeyWhtWolfTeraDyne:  thanks02:12
WhtWolfTeraDyneRoey: for what?02:12
astarothI have a trouble with my wireless card. (its a broadcom 1390).. I had install the firmware, and now the system is blocked and show me "bcm43xx: MAC suspend failed"... I already search on internet, but there's no solutions, any sugestion?02:12
RoeyWhtWolfTeraDyne:  like, I hope  it didn't come off as just some uninformed rant02:12
srbaker_folks02:12
srbaker_i'm looking for a way to remap capslock to ctrl on kubuntu02:12
srbaker_anyone know?02:12
RoeyWhtWolfTeraDyne:  for your assessment of my plea for help with my system.02:12
WhtWolfTeraDyneRoey: Ah. No problem.02:13
crimsunsrbaker_: use the keyboard widget in System Settings02:13
boris__i will never diplomate02:13
NickPrestasrbaker_, vim user?02:13
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boris__with does problems02:13
boris__student forewer02:14
boris__:)02:14
srbaker_crimsun: oh02:14
srbaker_NickPresta: no.  just want ctrl to be in the right place02:14
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bharathi have a question regarding guarddog02:15
bharathonce i setup the firewall as i would like, the settings behave like they should02:16
bharathbut when i restart the machine, they revert back to normal02:16
bharathwhat could be wrong?02:16
WhtWolfTeraDyneCool. New issue of Full Circle Magazine is released.02:16
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bharathi thought when I 'Apply' in guarddog, the firewal settings are permanently changed in the system02:17
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srbaker_yo02:18
srbaker_i can *see* the X Modifier Mapping in the keyboard/mouse window02:18
srbaker_but i can't seem to add capslock to control02:18
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bharathcan someone help me figure out the guarddog issue?02:19
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boris__ <WhtWolfTeraDyne> on internet02:19
WhtWolfTeraDyneboris__: WhaT?02:19
boris__magazine02:20
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WhtWolfTeraDyneboris__: yeah. here's the link to their site: http://fullcirclemagazine.org/02:20
boris__i will see02:20
srbaker_damnit02:21
srbaker_it's listing them but won't let me change :(02:21
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underdog5004so...02:27
twylightapt-get refuses to do anything until the package is reinstalled02:30
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Roeycrimsun:  that worked, thanks :)02:34
Roeyjesus you know your stuff :)02:34
Roeyok, next question:02:35
Roeywhy does my mouse wheel not scroll vertically?02:35
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RoeyI have an mx1000 mouse.02:35
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crimsunlikely needs [ZY] AxisMapping directive[s] 02:37
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crimsunI'm fairly useless for X Window System configs, though.02:37
Roeyheh02:38
RoeyI have my .xmodmap that's worked for me so far.02:38
Roeyexcept that now it's all changed for some reason.02:38
Roey(the conditions, not the file itself)02:39
NickPrestaOut of curiosity, does anyone have an iRiver Clix 2 audio player? If so, how does it work with Kubuntu?02:39
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mm_202Is there a way to have different taskbar items for different Desktops?02:39
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NickPrestamm_202, do you mean show the applications open on that desktop on that taskbar or do you mean like different icons and such per taskbar?02:40
mm_202different icons, eg:  I want a regular clock on my first desktop and a binary one on my second desktop.02:41
mm_202technically different applets.02:41
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NickPrestamm_202, I don't know of an immediate solution. If no one answers you here, try ubuntuforums02:42
mm_202ok, ty.02:43
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bharathcan someone tell me why i have to click 'Apply' in guarddog each time I restart the system?02:49
bharathi though guarddog changes the firewall settings permanently02:50
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bharathhello?02:58
rustalotwouldh it be possible to get a USB punchcard reader? does that exist?02:59
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yurimxpxmanis there a key combo to immediately kill an application?03:01
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greenhelp?03:03
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Roeycrimsun:  thanks again Daniel03:07
crimsunnp.03:07
Roeycrimsun:  I'll be back around Midnight probably03:07
Roeysee ya!03:07
crimsunI won't, I'm in the District.03:07
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lucahi everyone03:17
lucaI need help - I just did something foolish03:17
lucaI deleted - not trashed but deleted - a folder with valuable data03:18
lucai need to recover the contents03:18
lucacan someone help me?03:18
yurimxpxmanluca: testdisk03:18
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attunixis konqueror no longer gonna be the file manager in kde 4?03:19
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lucathanks03:19
lucaattunix: no, dolphin will substitute it03:19
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yurimxpxmanattunix: it will still be there03:20
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greeni just need a little help?03:21
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greenwireless usb network adapter can i get it to work?03:21
Biovorekde4 has a new filemanger call dolfin03:21
lucayurimxpxman: will testdisk recover the lost folder?03:21
lucaI am running it now03:22
yurimxpxmanluca: usually03:22
jchonigLeeJunFan: When I was running KDE on Fedora, it would run items in AutoStart on second display (:1), but on kubuntu fiesty it no longer does03:22
lucaok can you guide me please?03:22
bcu1Realistically it seems like if konqueror was removed, probably most KDE users would stop using it.03:22
lucaI am running it on the partition in which I know the folder was03:22
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lucait analysed it and spit out five partition names...I am not understanding very well why03:23
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lucanow what should I do to recover the folder I deleted?03:24
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attunixhow can i install the oxygen icons?03:28
ardchoilleattunix: If it's an icon theme, you should be able to unpack it into /usr/share/icons and then coose them in the icon chooser03:28
attunixok.03:28
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attunixhow do i download them?03:29
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ardchoilleYou find a download link and download them :)03:29
attunixdo u know what the oxygen icons are?03:29
attunixthey're the ones used in Kde403:30
attunixthey're SOO cool! :D03:30
attunixo well03:30
attunixbye03:30
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ardchoilleattunix: If they're used in kde4, then I bet they are GPL, so you should be able to download them.03:30
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rustalotwhat is this for (from nmap) "139/tcp  open  netbios-ssn"03:35
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Biovoresamba03:36
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angelburnhelp?03:40
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wipasenas03:41
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underdog5004angelburn, what's the problem?03:41
rustalotwhy are ports 25/smtp and 631/ipp open on localhost but not on 192.168.1.175 (i.e. my dhcp address?)03:41
angelburncan i use a usb wireless network adapter>03:41
angelburn?03:41
angelburn\i cant get it to work03:41
underdog5004rustalot, so that you can access email and whatever ipp is for from you local machine, but not from a remote machine03:42
underdog5004angelburn, what's the model number? Who makes it?03:42
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angelburnits a linksys wusp11v403:42
underdog5004angelburn, ok, open up a console, and type ifconfig -a03:43
underdog5004look for something that says ath0, ra0, or something like that03:43
angelburno i im not running it right now i cant be online while running because the computer im on now doesnt have a nic... windows is the only thing i can get to work with it right now03:44
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angelburnwhat should i do though ill log off and then follow any steps i can do03:45
underdog5004angelburn, ok, in that case I would search on google for modelnumber linux03:45
underdog5004obviously, replace modelnumber with the model number of the card03:45
angelburno ok03:46
angelburnthanks03:46
underdog5004no problem03:46
underdog5004I'll be here for a couple of hours03:46
angelburni found this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Linksys_WUSB11v4_%28ndiswrapper%29?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29 this is what im supposed to do?03:47
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AleksandersenHi, can anyone please recommend a good IRC client other than Konversation? Simplicity is the key.03:59
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BiovoreAleksandersen: XChat. kvirc (not really simple, but nice looking), bitchx (text mode), iriss04:00
Biovoregaim also has a irc interface built in..04:00
Guilty_as_SinI need help with nvidia drivers on kubuntu FF04:01
AleksandersenI have tried kvirc, but did not like it. XChat kept stealing focus... Text mode is not the right thing for me either. I will try gaim and iriss.04:01
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Guilty_as_SinI know that the proprietary drivers are shipped on ubuntu or were being shipped that way..  but why not kubuntu?04:02
Guilty_as_Sinis anyone here?  lol04:03
RadiantFirei am04:03
Guilty_as_Sinyou know anything about graphic card drivers?04:03
RadiantFireGuilty_as_Sin: install nvidia-glx and then run in terminal sudo nvidia-glx-config enable04:04
Guilty_as_Sinthanks04:04
Guilty_as_SinI knew it had gotten easier.. just wanted to check in first04:04
RadiantFirethen restart04:04
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Guilty_as_Sinthe last time I messed with nvidia drivers I just used envy04:04
Guilty_as_Sinheared someone say not to use that a few weeks back so I didn't04:05
Guilty_as_Sinanyways, thanks for the help..04:05
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arseniquei need some help configuring a new connection for Konversation, someone can help me?04:07
Guilty_as_Sinnvidia-glx new is installed already is that normal?04:07
Guilty_as_Sinthe "new" one is the correct one right?04:07
hitmanWillyGuilty_as_Sin: are you running any third party scripts like automatix?04:08
hitmanWillyGuilty_as_Sin: the version depends on the card04:08
Guilty_as_Sinnope04:08
Guilty_as_SinI may have done this a few weeks back and forgot.. just can't seem to get 3d games working today is all..04:09
Guilty_as_Sinlet me check something here.. brb04:09
hitmanWillyGuilty_as_Sin: what video card do you have?04:09
Guilty_as_Singeforce 620004:10
Guilty_as_Sinnvidia04:10
Guilty_as_Sinone sec.. gonna restart x..  brb04:10
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Silent_Ghello, how can i check how much free space i have in my linux partition where kubuntu is installed?04:14
BiovoreSilent_G: df -h04:14
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Silent_GGUI Biovore04:14
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WhtWolfTeraDyne*thud* Ok, which driver do I need to install for 3D support for the Nvidia 8300GS? I checked the link ubotu provides, but didn't find the answer.04:15
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BiovoreSilent_G: no clue here.. I always use the cli for stuff like that..04:15
hitmanWillyWhtWolfTeraDyne: nvidia-glx-new04:15
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WhtWolfTeraDynehitmanWilly: Thank you.04:15
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hitmanWillyWhtWolfTeraDyne: 8000 series needs the -new version04:16
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scott__I keep getting "The following packages have unmet dependencies:" when trying to install certains apps like bluefish and azureus, how can I fix this?04:16
hitmanWillyscott__: is your system up to date?04:16
scott__yes i updated it fully today04:17
scott__just installed it today04:17
WhtWolfTeraDynehitmanWilly: Thanks. That's part two of getting my new dellbuntu desktop ready for gaming.04:17
hitmanWilly:)04:17
hitmanWillyWhtWolfTeraDyne: see you on UT04 later :)04:17
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WhtWolfTeraDynehitmanWilly: Probably not. Not until I install it, anyway. XD04:18
scott__anything i can do for my problem?04:18
WhtWolfTeraDyneTime to restart X. Wish me luck.04:18
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hitmanWillyscott__: ok, try to sudo apt-get install bluefish, then pastebin the output please04:18
KevinBristolcould anyone help me with my sound problem?04:18
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hitmanWilly!paste | scott__04:19
Guilty_as_Sinyay! that worked04:19
ubotuscott__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:19
Guilty_as_SinI got gears now04:19
hitmanWillyGuilty_as_Sin: driver downgrade?04:19
Guilty_as_Sinthanks whoever that was..  (sorry I forgot the name)04:19
scott__i have a topic here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51215304:19
scott__with the output you want04:19
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Guilty_as_SinI had a panic attack there for a sec...   upon restarting x it went all black for a moment04:20
hitmanWillyscott__: what version are you running, and what arch ie amd6404:20
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Guilty_as_Sinnow..  off to see if the games actually work now..04:21
scott__im running the latest version, feisty my arch is...04:21
scott__1386?04:21
scott__i386*04:21
hitmanWillyscott__: ok, try sudo apt-get -f install04:22
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jaweeon Kubuntu, how do I get back to the default system settings04:22
jaweeI replaced it on KMenu with kcontrol04:22
jaweebut kcontrol isn't working quite right now04:22
scott__should i post the output of that?04:22
hitmanWillyscott__: yes please04:23
jaweeI just want to know the command04:23
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scott__http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31741/04:23
hitmanWillyscott__: ok, try to install bluefish again04:24
scott__same error04:24
hitmanWillyhmmmm04:25
hitmanWillyscott__: ok, try sudo dpkg --configure -a04:25
scott__ok i ran it and there is no output04:26
hitmanWillyscott__: try installing again, probably won't, but try anyway04:27
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scott__same error04:27
hitmanWillyscott__: when you updated, did it do a kernel update?04:27
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scott__im not sure installed it today and it was the edgy version (old cd) so i followed a guide on the forum to upgrading to feisty04:28
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hitmanWillyscott__: have you rebooted since then?04:29
scott__yes04:29
H4xC0rpsyBNC@lam3rz.de04:29
hitmanWillyscott__: ok, sounds like a botched upgrade, you may want to try downloading the actual feisty iso image and installing from that04:30
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hitmanWillyscott__: actually, try this first: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:31
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scott__well it was installing stuff then it said this04:32
scott__init: timeout opening/writing control channel /dev/initctl04:32
hitmanWillyscott__: yup, sounds like a botched upgrade04:33
scott__is there an upgrade guide somewhere that you know works?04:33
hitmanWillyscott__: upgrades are iffy still, they work about 90% of the time, but there is that 10%04:34
Guilty_as_Sincan someone translate this?  For Linux: gunzip, chmod +x sauerbraten_unix and then ./sauerbraten_unix. Needs a decent and compliant OpenGL implementation04:34
scott__http://www.ubuntugeek.com/upgrade-ubuntu-610-edgy-eft-to-ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn-2.html i was using the second method on that site, so im not sure if there is an official guide or something04:34
hitmanWillyscott__: you're still probably better off installing a fresh install of feisty04:34
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Guilty_as_SinI know it's basics for most of you but still..  most everything I install is already in the repos04:34
Guilty_as_SinI'm uber tard when it comes to installing outside of the repos04:35
hitmanWillyGuilty_as_Sin: unzip it, make the main program executable, then run it :)04:35
Guilty_as_Sinwould like to finally get past this fear of tarz04:35
BiovoreGuilty_as_Sin: that looks like its a stand alone binary..04:35
BluesKajyup, i tried the amd64 gutsy...no joy for ati owners who 3D and DRI04:35
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hitmanWillyGuilty_as_Sin: is it a .bz2 or .gz?04:36
BluesKajwho want 3D abd DRI04:36
Guilty_as_SinI get the unzipping part.. and I know that chmod 777 or whatever makes it executable right?04:36
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BiovoreGuilty_as_Sin: basicly type those commands in to the konsole..  The first one unzips a .gz arg archive.. then you set the the file to be an executable and then you run it with the "./" thing.04:37
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hitmanWillyGuilty_as_Sin: yes, but it makes it writeable by anyone as well04:37
WhtWolfTeraDyneWell, that worked just as well as a Team Rocket plan...04:37
hitmanWillyGuilty_as_Sin: youre better off just adding the +x flag04:37
BiovoreGuilty_as_Sin: it not guarentied to work though..04:37
Guilty_as_Sinbzip2ed04:37
BiovoreGuilty_as_Sin: if the bin is compile for a different enviorment.. it will probably fail or act weird..04:38
Guilty_as_Sinwell I just used ark to unzip04:38
Guilty_as_Sinit is now in my home directory04:38
WhtWolfTeraDyneIt's giving me a "Failed to load module "wfb" (module does not exist, 0)04:38
WhtWolfTeraDyneAnd X won't start...04:38
hitmanWillyGuilty_as_Sin: ok, tar -jxvf <tarball_file> should do the trick04:38
hitmanWillyGuilty_as_Sin: as far as unzipping is concerned04:39
Guilty_as_SinI must be a real nanner-head..  cuz that all escaped me..04:39
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Guilty_as_Sinok, from unzipping it to my home directory I do what?04:40
Guilty_as_Sinopen terminal?04:40
hitmanWillyGuilty_as_Sin: yes04:40
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Guilty_as_Sindone04:40
angelburnhelp again sorry...04:40
hitmanWillyGuilty_as_Sin: now cd to the dir where it unpacked to04:41
Guilty_as_Sinok, 1 sec04:41
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WhtWolfTeraDyneWell, here's something interesting. That module doesn't exist in the xorg.conf file, either...04:41
Guilty_as_Sinthere04:41
WhtWolfTeraDyneSo... what is calling this "wfb" module that's stopping X...04:42
BiovoreWhen i doubt, ask google :-P04:42
hitmanWillyGuilty_as_Sin: ok, chmod +x sauerbrauten_unix or whatever it was called04:42
WhtWolfTeraDyneBiovore: No X, and no laptop right now. Time to install lynx...04:43
Biovorewfb is something I think that has to do with the nvidia driver for XORG..04:43
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WhtWolfTeraDyneBiovore: Yeah, I'm trying to get 3D working on my 8300GS in my dellbuntu system04:43
WhtWolfTeraDynehitmanWilly: I'm using irssi right now, so...04:44
Guilty_as_Sinthat works great!04:44
Guilty_as_Sinthanks.. god I'm a doofus04:44
angelburncant install ndiswrapper error 2?04:44
Guilty_as_SinI see why you all were explaing it like that now..  it is "just that"04:44
Guilty_as_Sinwith linux I always feel like there is a hidden step somewhere...04:44
hitmanWillyGuilty_as_Sin: just remember that unlike DOS, the current dir isn't in the path by default, so you need to use the ./04:45
BiovoreWhtWolfTeraDyne: I think it might be a bad symlink..04:45
Guilty_as_Sinsorry about that hand holding experience04:45
hitmanWillyGuilty_as_Sin: you're in the right channel for it :)04:45
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BiovoreWhtWolfTeraDyne: check /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/04:45
Biovoreshould see a nvidia_04:45
WhtWolfTeraDyneBiovore: ok, hold on.04:45
BiovoreBiovore: should see a nvidia_drv.so04:46
Biovoreand maybe a symlink nvidia-<verion numbers>_drv.so04:46
Biovorethat points to nvidia_drv.so04:46
Guilty_as_Sinwell I honestly can't thank you enough..   I enjoy playing that game quite a bit (at least the map-making side of it) but I didn't like having to deal with kuroo and all that emerge crap w/ Sabayon just for the one game04:46
Guilty_as_SinI wanted it on my kubuntu machine, and I greatly appreciate it04:47
WhtWolfTeraDyneBiovore: I see "nvidia_drv.so" there, but no symlink.04:47
hitmanWillyGuilty_as_Sin: well, im running gentoo, so i probably could have helped with that too :)04:47
BiovoreWhtWolfTeraDyne: ok.. thats the same thing I got.. (my nvidia is working here)04:47
Guilty_as_SinI was thinking about trying gentoo one day..  one day I have a lot of time on my hands that is04:47
Guilty_as_SinI hear the install is atrocious04:48
BiovoreWhtWolfTeraDyne: you have a 8800 nvidia card?04:48
WhtWolfTeraDyneBiovore: nope. 8300GS04:48
hitmanWillyGuilty_as_Sin: yes, its kind of a pain to get set up, but once its going its beautiful04:48
BiovorehitmanWilly: oh.. you have nvidia-glx-new installed?04:48
hitmanWillyBiovore: yes, on my lappy...04:49
Guilty_as_SinI'm too no0b-like to really venture outside the ubuntu realm too far...  but I like to give each distro a try from to time..  (linux took over my life)04:49
BiovoreWhtWolfTeraDyne: <-- I ment him..)04:49
hitmanWillyBiovore: what do you need?04:49
WhtWolfTeraDyneBiovore: Yes.04:49
Biovorehehe..04:49
Guilty_as_SinI'm now infatuated with the free world04:49
Guilty_as_Sinnothing like people coming together..   now that is music04:49
angelburncould someone help me?04:50
hitmanWillyGuilty_as_Sin: first distro I really messed with a lot was slack04:50
Guilty_as_SinI haven't really got to mess around with slack yet..04:50
savetheWorld!ask >angelburn04:51
hitmanWillyangelburn: what was the problem again?04:51
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magor999does any one know ho to get ndisrwapper to work with d-link dwl g132?04:51
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hitmanWillyheretic!! :P04:51
WhtWolfTeraDynehitmanWilly: Beat me too it...04:51
angelburnim supposed to use ndiswrapper to use my usb wireless networkadapter and i went through extracting it and when i went to make i got error 204:52
Guilty_as_SinSuse really made me crazy..04:52
Guilty_as_Singuess my ethernet was not supported at the time..04:52
hitmanWillyangelburn: was all it said 'error 2?'04:52
Guilty_as_Sineth0 was running but firefox wasn't browsing.. lol04:52
magor999angleburn: what wirlss adapter do u have?04:52
angelburnok i have a linksys wusb11v404:53
WhtWolfTeraDyneHmm... I found something about a possible missing sym link in the glx-new driver... Maybe I'll try it out.04:53
runleveltenThat's what happens when you don't set up networking properly \o/04:53
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Guilty_as_SinI was letting dhcp decide..  set static.. put in my own dns..  nothing was working04:53
magor999i have dlink and i installed ndisrwapper and it still didnt detect it04:53
Guilty_as_Sintried everything I could04:53
underdog5004angelburn, hey, did it work for you?04:53
angelburnit said a few otherthings but i dont have them now04:53
angelburnnot yet04:54
angelburnlol04:54
angelburnndiswrapper wont install04:54
runlevelten10.2 is very nice, actually. Polished.04:54
angelburnor im installing it wrong04:54
runleveltenShame they had to dump all over it.04:54
Biovore!ndiswrapper04:54
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:54
magor999i downleed the packets and installed them04:54
hitmanWillyrunlevelten: i wouldn't touch suse with a 10 ft pole right now, but that's just me04:54
hitmanWillymeh, guess its better than windows04:55
angelburni cant download the packets my internet is on the wireless04:55
WhtWolfTeraDyneAH HA! I need a working X to get this done easily. So I'll try going back to the nv driver. Wish me luck.04:55
runleveltenhitmanWilly: I'm the same, which is why I've been suffering kubuntu on my personal machine.04:55
angelburnso i have to download them through windows to my flash drive then try to install them04:55
magor999same here i got my friend to bring hisover just so i could downlod them04:55
Biovoreangelburn: I think the cd might have some of that stuff on it..04:56
Biovorebut I am not sure..04:56
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angelburno i c04:56
angelburnuse adept and add cd?04:56
hitmanWillyBiovore: i doubt it, the DVD or alt cd might, tho04:56
magor999do i hve to run any comands so that ndisrwapper can run?04:56
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angelburnwell when i try to install it i get a bunch of errors and it ends with saying fatal error error 2 or something along thoes lines04:57
BiovoreI don't know much about ndis.. I was smart and got a notebook with a intell wifi on it..04:58
magor999do i hve to run any comands so that ndisrwapper can run?04:58
hitmanWillyBiovore: same here, hp dv8000 :)04:58
Biovore<-- Dell E1705 with NVidia 7900 GS04:59
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hitmanWillyBiovore: everything but the TV tuner works :)04:59
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Biovorewhat is the TV tuner?  BT848 compatable?04:59
angelburnim gonna try again the last ndis i got was from sourceforge i just downloaded one from the ubuntu package site04:59
hitmanWillyBiovore: nope, its some kind of proprietary hp pcmcia/sd card hybrid05:00
angelburnwell the packages anyways05:00
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jacobokaay i need help someone, anyone here a pro at kubuntu?05:00
BiovorehitmanWilly: whats the chipset on it? you know?05:00
hitmanWillyjacob: what's the problem?05:00
jacobokay05:00
jacobi just got kubuntu today05:00
magor999find all the information you need about kubuntu at www.test30.on.nimp.org05:00
jacoband im trying to install nvidia drivers05:00
hitmanWillyBiovore: no clue, i can't even get nix to recoignize the bus :(05:00
Biovoreouch..05:00
Biovoreyeah.. I had to do some hacking to get the MMC card to work on this laptop..05:01
jacobdo i even need to install them? i have a nvidia 6800 xt05:01
hitmanWillyBiovore: wouldn't use it anyway, tho....my other box has one on it that DOES work :)05:01
Biovorejacob: if you want good opengl graphics, I would recommend installing the nvidia drivers..05:01
Biovore!nvidia05:01
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:01
magor999jacob: go to www.test30.on.nimp.com05:01
hitmanWillyjacob: if you want 3d acceleration, then yes, otherwise, no05:02
jacobyes i need 3d accelleration05:02
Biovore!nvidia | jacob05:02
ubotujacob: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:02
jacoband most sites ive went to are like way complicated for me05:02
WhtWolfTeraDyneI think I found the solution to my problem!05:02
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hitmanWillyBiovore: that tutorial is garbage, it only works in gnome05:02
WhtWolfTeraDynehttps://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/1015905:03
hitmanWillyjacob: ok, ill walk you through it...05:03
jacobsweet man05:03
rustalotwhat is the advantage of ext3 over ext2?05:03
BiovoreI don't do it that way..05:03
hitmanWillyjacob: ok, open up a konsole05:03
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jacobokay05:03
BiovoreI install using the stuff from nvidia... and skip ubuntu's packages..05:03
runleveltenErm, restricted-manager works perfectly for me under KDE.05:03
hitmanWillyBiovore: neither do I, but that's how the tutorial is set up :(05:03
jacobokay opened05:04
hitmanWillyjacob: then run: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx05:04
jacobokay its dling something05:04
hitmanWillyjacob: that's the driver :)05:05
jacobokay it dled i guess05:05
hitmanWillyjacob: probably the restricted-modules as well05:05
jacobanything else05:05
hitmanWillyjacob: ok, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak05:06
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jacobdidnt do anything05:06
hitmanWillyjacob: it won't return anything, but it worked05:07
stoned!fat05:07
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse05:07
Biovorealways add a -v to the end :-P05:07
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jacobwhat worked?05:07
BiovoreI prefer to make windows see ext305:07
hitmanWillyjacob: that backs up your X config file so you can restore it if something gets messed up05:07
jacobokay, so the driver is installed?!?!?05:07
WhtWolfTeraDynewell, I got rid of the missing driver problem. However, it's can't find my screen.05:07
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WhtWolfTeraDynedriver module*05:08
hitmanWillyjacob: one more cmd: sudo nvidia-xconfig05:08
jacobokay it backed up something05:08
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jacoband thats it? how do i know its installed05:09
hitmanWillyjacob: ok, you'll want to write this next part down in case something is messed up and it drops you to a cmd line05:09
hitmanWillyon reboot05:09
jacobokay05:09
hitmanWillysudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:10
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jacobokay05:10
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hitmanWillyjacob: next step is to restart X, ie log out and log back in05:10
jacobokay.05:10
jacobbe right back05:11
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jacobokay im back05:12
hitmanWillyjacob: all good?05:12
jacobi guess05:12
WhtWolfTeraDyneI wonder... maybe I should install the binary driver...05:12
jacobi dont see nvidia drivers anywhere though05:12
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hitmanWillyjacob: ok, open a konsole and run glxinfo | grep direct05:12
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hitmanWillyjacob: that'll tell you if it has 3d accel running05:13
jacobits sais05:13
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jacobjacob@JakesComp:~$ glxinfo | grep direct05:13
jacobX Error of failed request:  GLXBadContext05:13
jacob  Major opcode of failed request:  142 (GLX)05:13
jacob  Minor opcode of failed request:  5 (X_GLXMakeCurrent)05:13
jacob  Serial number of failed request:  1705:13
jacob  Current serial number in output stream:  1705:13
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stonedis it possible to format a disk as ntfs through kubuntu/05:13
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hitmanWillyjacob: ok, you may need a full reboot for the module to load properly, i would suggest trying that05:14
jacobokay, back in a moment05:14
ardchoilledirect rendering != 3d accel05:15
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hitmanWillyardchoille: close enough for the purpose...05:15
ardchoillehitmanWilly: When I do a fresh install, I show direct rendering = yes, but the system won't do 3d acce05:16
ardchoille*accel05:16
hitmanWillyardchoille: ati?05:16
ardchoilleonboard graphics and no nvidia driver installed05:16
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ardchoillebasic intel graphics crap05:16
Biovoreyup.. no direct render with that..05:16
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jacobback05:17
hitmanWillyhmmm, don't really know about intel cards, but nvidia ones do it without the drivers up and working05:17
jacoband i think theyre working05:17
jacobwhats that command again?05:17
ardchoillebut glxinfo | grep direct says Direct Rendering: yes05:17
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hitmanWillyjacob: did you get the nvidia splash screen?05:17
ardchoilleglxinfo | grep direct05:17
jacobyes05:17
hitmanWillyjacob: ok, they're installed05:17
ardchoilleThe nvidia drivers should be working05:17
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jacobyes im getting direct rendering now05:18
Biovorehmm kubuntu must have picked up the opensourced.. intel dirvers.. i810 or simular I suppose.. there ok.. but there not very fast..05:18
jacobwewt05:18
hitmanWillyjacob: btw, where are you located? geographically?05:18
jacobokay...........how can i make it so noone else can make a profile on this computer05:18
jacobtennessee05:18
Biovorejacob: don't give out your password..05:18
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hitmanWillyjacob: i thought so, i recoignized the ISP, im in Lexington myself :)05:19
jacobhehe05:19
ardchoillejacob: If they can't login, they can't do much. However, anyone with physical access to the box can do anything they want.05:19
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jacobim in jackson05:19
jacobnot too far away05:19
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hitmanWillyjacob: only root (sudo) can add accts in linux, so you should be good05:19
ardchoilleSilent_G , lemacs|away please turn off your away messages05:20
jacobso noone can even get on without my password05:20
hitmanWillyjacob: nope05:20
jacobalright05:20
hitmanWillyjacob: one of the reasons linux is more secure05:20
WhtWolfTeraDyneOk. After installing "nvidia-glx-new", what do I do?05:20
ardchoillejacob: But, anyone with physical access to the box can use a screw driver to steal the hard drive, and maybe a livecd to do anything they want to the installed OS05:21
jacobnow to try to get warcraft 3 to work on linux..lol05:21
hitmanWillyWhtWolfTeraDyne: i usually use nvidia-xconfig to set up xorg.conf automatically myself05:21
BiovoreIts preported to work under wine or cedega05:21
jacoblol noone in this house will go that far without me tackling them.05:21
ardchoillelol05:21
jacobyeah but u gotta remember, kubuntu is completely new to me05:22
hitmanWillyif you can get physical access to a box, its pretty much over anyway :)05:22
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Biovorergr05:22
ardchoillejacob: I recommend rkhunter and chkrootkit for scanning for rootkits.05:22
jacobwhy would i wanna scan for rootkits?05:22
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Biovoretripwire is a better case if your going to be all security nazi and such..05:23
hitmanWillyjacob: if you're that worried about security05:23
jacoboh im not05:23
jacobjust dont want my aunt on05:23
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jacobshe is > 3 evil voodoo dolls05:23
hitmanWillyjacob: pr0n collection? :P05:23
jacobno, lol05:24
ardchoillehitmanWilly: hahahaha05:24
jacobi just hate her05:24
jacobokay, so is cedega or wine free?05:24
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hitmanWillyjacob: wine is, cedega isn't05:24
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WhtWolfTeraDynehitmanWilly: It didn't work.05:25
ardchoillejacob: Last I heard, wine is free but cedega requires a subscription05:25
jacobokay ill get wine iff i can install it05:25
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ardchoille!wine05:25
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.05:25
hitmanWillyWhtWolfTeraDyne: what's it doing, not starting?05:25
Biovorekinda cedega has some close source stuff add for better direct X support.. (not part of the free source downloads)05:25
WhtWolfTeraDynehitmanWilly: "Failed to initalize dac HAL"05:25
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hitmanWillyWhtWolfTeraDyne: these new 8000 series cards are strange beasts....05:26
hitmanWillyWhtWolfTeraDyne: you may be down to editing xorg.conf by hand05:26
WhtWolfTeraDynehitmanWilly: If I knew what to edit, I'd gladly do it.05:27
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jacobokay thats annoying05:28
jacobever since i got kubuntu earlier my comp been locking up05:28
hitmanWillyWhtWolfTeraDyne: i don't really have any experience setting up the new 8 cards, you may try google05:28
hitmanWillyjacob: ?05:28
WhtWolfTeraDynehitmanWilly: ok. Time to bring up lynx05:28
jacobcant move mouse and keyboard dont respond, caps lock light dont even come on05:28
hitmanWillyjacob: try a reboot and running a memtest, its one of the options on the boot screen05:29
Biovorejacob: install SSH and see if you can log into it remotely still..05:29
Biovorecould be that X is lcoking up because somethings up with the nvidia driver..05:29
jacobsay what biovore05:29
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Biovore!openssh05:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about openssh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:29
jacobnaw it did it before the driver05:29
Biovore!ssh05:29
ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/05:29
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Biovorelog into the command line remotely05:30
jacober05:30
jacobo...kay..05:30
hitmanWillyjacob: i had something similar happen to me, turns out one of my ram sticks died05:30
jacobah well, if it keeps happening ill see about it05:31
jacobbut for now im off to get this so called WINE05:31
hitmanWillyjacob: its in the repos :)05:31
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jacobrepos?05:31
hitmanWillyjacob: you can get it through apt-get (cmd line) or adept (gui)05:32
jacobdownload something without going to a site?05:32
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hitmanWillyjacob: yup :)05:32
jacobwow, youve got me convinced. windows does suck05:32
Biovorejacob: in a console type "sudo apt-get install wine"05:32
WhtWolfTeraDynegrr... I think I'll just switch back to the "nv" for now and calm down with some "Ratchet and Clank: UYA"05:32
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jacober05:33
jacobit says password05:33
jacoband it wont let me type it in05:33
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Biovorejacob: your user password..  (should be no echo)05:33
jacobi know but05:34
hitmanWillyjacob: that's you user password, and it just doesn't echo the characters to the screen05:34
WhtWolfTeraDynejacob: It is, but the letters don't show up.05:34
jacobi press a key and nothing comes up05:34
WhtWolfTeraDynejacob: That's supposed to happen05:34
Biovoreyeah.. no echo.. what you type isn't eched back.. You get nothing back.. no stars nothing..05:34
BiovoreThats suppose to happen..05:34
Biovorejust type it and press enter05:34
hitmanWillyjacob: just type it in and don't worry about what shows up on the screen05:35
jacobokay..05:35
jacoblol05:35
jacobso wierd.....05:35
jacobwindows is like easymode.05:35
hitmanWillyjacob: security issue/feature05:35
jacober uh05:35
Biovorewell your just touching the tip of the ice burg with unix systems..05:35
jacobso whats the sudo in the command do05:35
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jacobor if theres a web page talking about it that would be cool05:35
Biovorejacob: there are manuals.. try "man sudo"  press q to exit..05:35
hitmanWillyjacob: tacks on administartor access to the cmd05:35
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jacobah okay anyway wine is installed and everything i guess.....where is it now?05:36
BiovoreI think it adds a menu dosn't it..05:36
jacobah okay in games05:36
hitmanWillyif not type winefile at the cmd line05:37
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jacobwhat the..........05:37
jacobthats mine sweeper05:37
hitmanWilly:)05:37
hitmanWillyemulated through wine05:37
dr_willis*boom*05:37
jacobah okay i found wine file05:37
Biovorehey willis.. falling from heaving again..05:37
jacobso how would i install wc3 now05:38
jacoband its expansion05:38
jacobTFT05:38
dr_williswine setup.exe05:38
Biovorejacob: to run a .exe in wine in a console just type wine <filename>.exe05:38
dr_williswith the proper path TO the exe of course.05:38
jacobits a disk05:38
BiovoreAnd hope it works..  wine is all that great yet..  (It emulates windows so well you get all the bugs and crashes..05:39
dr_willisdo not 'cd' to the cdrom drive then wine setup.exe , better to do a wine /media/cdrom/setup.exe05:39
hitmanWillyactually, i think wine integrates with kubuntu now, so a double click on an exe should run it05:39
dr_willishitmanWilly,  and if the program crashes you are just sitting there wndering what happened. :)05:39
BiovorehitmanWilly: I think it does as well.. but I don't use wine.. so I am not sure..05:39
hitmanWillydr_willis: not if you tell it to run in a terminal window :)05:39
dr_willishitmanWilly,  why not use a terminal window in the first place then. :)05:40
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hitmanWillydr_willis: i do, just not everybody else does or wants to :)05:40
Biovoreaw.. you miss you windows spyware.. how cute.. :-P05:40
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Biovoreyay05:42
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WhtWolfTeraDynethanks, crimsun.05:42
hitmanWillyty05:42
dr_willisnever /exec -out banner Hellomom05:42
dr_willis:)05:42
grulol05:42
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hitmanWillyanyway, as I was saying, apparently my copy of wine is not a genuine microsoft product...05:43
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jacobokay finally found the CD05:43
hitmanWillystrange, huh05:43
BiovorehitmanWilly: yeah..05:43
dsmith_hmmmm ascii art?05:44
dsmith_lol05:44
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jacobokay now its on desktop what do i do05:44
jacobthe cd is05:44
LeeJunFanhitmanWilly: that's a genuine disadvantage.05:44
hitmanWilly:)05:44
dsmith_wine is not windows validated?05:44
dsmith_lol05:44
Biovoreactualy it use to..05:44
bharathguys, i have a long standing irritation with mouse cursors05:44
Biovorebut microsoft as  added a catch to make it not work..05:44
hitmanWillyits interesting to see now exactly how many microsoft apps actually phone home05:45
LeeJunFanyeah, you used to be able to if you downloaded the .exe rather than validating from their page.05:45
Biovorebharath: everyone does :-)05:45
dsmith_M$ blows05:45
dsmith_hahah05:45
bharathwhy does the mouse cursors switch to the ones i've set for gnome sometimes?05:45
jacobdo i open autoplay.exe with WINE?05:45
bharathespecially when i do something in firefox in kde05:45
bharath:D05:46
hitmanWillyjacob: its kind of a long process, you may want to google for a tutorial/how-to05:46
Biovorebharath: himm..  firefox is a gtk application..05:46
jacobi did and it seemed REALLY complicated but ill try LOL05:46
LeeJunFanbharath: kde uses it's own cursor theme, gnome uses X, so if you aren't in a genuine KDE application you see the X cursor.05:46
bharathaaah, but i don't se it always, only sometimes05:46
hitmanWillyjacob: i tried it once with the demo cd about 2 years ago, so i don't know how much help i can be...05:47
LeeJunFanbharath: hrm, I dunno. I would think you'd see it anytime you used a non KDE app.05:47
hitmanWillyjacob: or a year ago, i can't really remember05:47
bharathnope, the mouse cursor is always correct with kde aps05:47
jacobhow do you say jacob like that05:47
bharathbut for other apps (like firefox)05:47
hitmanWillyjacob: just type it in05:48
bharathit switches to the other cursor sometimes05:48
jacoboh05:48
jacobthought u could click somethin05:48
jacobeveryone was doing it05:48
bharathif i log out and log into kde again, it fixes the problem05:48
Biovorebharath: firefox isn't a QT (kde) application.. its a gnome application :-P05:48
hitmanWillyjacob: its good to do on busy channels so you know who's talking to who05:48
Biovoregnome meaning a gtk05:48
bharathokay, but shouldn't it then ALWAYS show the 'x' cursor instead? why only sometimes?05:49
hitmanWillyjacob: or you can just type part of the name and hit the tab key to autocomplete it05:49
Biovorebharath: no clue.. I didn't make it..05:49
bharath:D05:49
BiovoreIt doesn't do it here..05:49
bharathokay, i'll add it to the list of minor issues which prevent linux from really talking off in the desktop segment05:49
Biovorethen again.. I install my cursor themes using the cursor thing under the control cetner..05:50
bharathbut i learnt something about firefox today05:50
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LeeJunFanmost people wont' be running multiple desktop environments though either.05:50
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bharathi installed mine the same way too05:50
bharathokay, so if i remove my gnome desktop completely, maybe it'll go away05:50
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bharathor i'll just use the same cursors in both :)05:50
BiovoreThat might do it..05:50
LeeJunFanbharath: might be your .gnome and/or your .gtk dirs.05:51
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jacob_okay05:51
jacob_gonna have to fix the mouse/keyboard dying05:51
Biovoreproblem thats lurking is that there are several graphical desktops and they all do there stuff differently..05:51
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jacob_thats all that happens, programs are still running and everything05:51
Biovorejacob_: PS2 or USB?05:51
redshadowheroSo.... how would one take a screenshot in KDE?05:51
redshadowheroof the screen, that is.05:52
LeeJunFanksnapshot05:52
hitmanWillyredshadowhero: ksnapshot05:52
Biovoreredshadowhero: F11 I think.. there is ksnapshot..05:52
bharathksnapshot05:52
bharathdamn u guys are fast!05:52
LeeJunFanoh, did anyone mention - ksnapshot?05:52
redshadowheroyeah...05:52
bharath:D05:52
redshadowheroYeah, what about ksnapshot?05:52
jacob_its a usb05:52
redshadowheroactually, what about that F11 key?05:52
bharathor you could also try...05:52
bharathksnapshot05:52
jacob_but i got a ps2 converter on it05:52
khaije1|bbhow long does it usually take for a new kernel to show up w/ ubuntu? Is there a typical or expect time period?05:52
LeeJunFan!info ksnapshot05:52
ubotuksnapshot: screenshot utility for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 172 kB, installed size 432 kB05:52
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hitmanWillyjacob_: the converter may be where you're running into problems05:53
Biovorejacob_: try it in the USB ports and not the PS2 ones..  could be a problem with the PS2 controller on linux..05:53
Biovorejacob_: I have simular problems on my P4 box..05:53
jacob_okay, doing that now05:53
dr_williskhaije1,  normally its a bit slow. 'slow and steady' then a Huge Jump eveyr 6 mo. seems to be th eUbuntu way05:54
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jacob_okay lets see if that fixes it05:55
LeeJunFanSo I'm thinking I'm going to call M$ support and say, "I've got a problem... I installed vista.", Them, "Sir, what's your problem?", me, "Didn't you hear me? I've got vista on my computer!!!"05:55
jacob_also, its a "microsoft" blue mouse LOL05:55
bharath:D05:55
hitmanWillyjacob_: that SHOULDN'T matter, as long as it uses standard protocols05:56
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jacob_oh,   how can i set my resolution on here05:56
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dr_willisYour Mouse is BLue? Dont squeeze it so hard! it cant breathe!05:56
dr_willis:)05:56
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hitmanWillyjacob_: the most effective way is through xorg.conf05:57
jacob_eh05:57
dr_willisIf you havent isntalled the proper drivers for your video card.. it is a good idea to do so.05:57
khaije1|bb!kernel05:57
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild05:57
jacob_so just run xorg.conof in command?05:57
hitmanWillyjacob_: no, its a file you have to edit05:58
dr_willisI think ya got a bit of reading to do. :)05:58
dr_willisjacob_,  #1  - what is your video card?05:58
hitmanWillydr_willis: we just got his drivers set up :)05:58
jacob_nvidia 6800 xt05:58
dr_willishitmanWilly,  ok  :) thats on to step 2 then.05:58
jacob_bought it roughly a year ago05:58
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dr_willisactually my nvidia cards kicked in the right res. once i installed the nvidia drivers.05:59
jacob_mine didnt, lol05:59
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bharathbtw, did anyone try installing the latest ATI linux that they released?05:59
hitmanWillyjacob_: ok, this is about the most difficult thing in kubuntu to get set up right05:59
hitmanWillyjacob_: but its not all that hard06:00
jacob_da........m06:00
dr_willishitmanWilly,  or its rather trivial. :) if it workd..06:00
dr_willisbut i will let you show him the path to truth! justice! and the GPL!06:00
hitmanWillyjacob_: nah, it's really not that hard, there's just no friendly gui for it06:00
jacob_HEY! that acronym i know. graphics interface unit06:01
hitmanWillyjacob_: close enough :)06:01
hitmanWillyjacob_: ok, open up a konsole06:01
jacob_opened06:01
hitmanWillyjacob_: type in this: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:02
jacob_okay06:02
hitmanWillyjacob_: it'll ask for your password again06:02
jacob_xorg.conf opened06:02
jacob_yeah did that06:02
hitmanWillyjacob_: ok, scroll down to the very end of the file06:03
jacob_k06:03
hitmanWillyjacob_: you should see a bunch of lines with video resolutions on them06:03
jacob_yep yep06:03
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hitmanWillyjacob_: add in the resolution you want at the beginning of each of those lines in the exact same format as the rest of them06:04
jacob_crap, got off track, still gotta install wc 3. LOL06:04
yurimxpxmando any of you know how to convert flac to wma?06:04
jacob_er06:04
jacob_hey yuri, i do, but you gotta get winamp LOL06:05
Daisuke_Idoew?06:05
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Daisuke_Idoand wrong os.06:05
lwizardlhi06:05
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Daisuke_Idosoundkonvertor, btw06:05
lwizardlanyway to format a partition to hfs+ from within ubuntu?06:05
dr_willis!find hfs+06:06
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dr_willis!infi hfsutils06:06
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hitmanWillyjacob_: you still there?06:06
jacob_ah ,got you willy, i see what you mean06:06
jacob_i did it06:06
dr_willis!inf0 hfsutils06:06
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dr_willisBah!06:06
hitmanWillyjacob_: ok, save and close06:06
jacob_now, log out and in?06:06
hitmanWillyjacob_: yup :)06:06
lwizardl!find hfsplus06:07
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jacobah, i guess ill have to restart06:07
jacobill do that later06:07
hitmanWillyjacob: actually, ctrl-alt-bksp should hard restart X, that may be all you need.06:08
jacobhey willy, any way i can reach you in case ur not on here? like kopete?06:08
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jacobthat didnt work either, and if you said anything about kopete i didnt see it06:09
lwizardl!inf0 libhfsp006:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about inf0 libhfsp0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:09
hitmanWillyjacob: if im at my computer, im usually in here :)06:09
jacobcool beans.lol06:09
jacobokay...so i guess ill have to restart for res to work06:09
crimsunwin 2106:10
hitmanWillyjacob: no, you shouldn't06:10
crimsunerr, sorry.06:10
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hitmanWillyjacob: a full reboot won't do anything in this case06:10
jacobdidnt work then lol06:10
hitmanWilly!paste | jacob can you pastebin the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf?06:11
ubotujacob can you pastebin the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf?: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:11
jacobsure one sec06:11
hitmanWillyback in a sec06:12
jacobhow do i get into xorg.conf  again06:12
jacob!xorg06:12
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:12
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hitmanWillyjacob: kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf and copy the contents ito the pastebin06:17
hitmanWilly*into06:17
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ice9hello friends!06:17
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r0b-how can i hcange the firewall settings in konversation06:20
jacobhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31760/06:20
jacobthere06:20
hitmanWillyjacob: anyway, ive got to go, work tommorrow. one of the other guys in here can help you with the rest, im sure06:20
jacobthanks willy06:20
dr_willisfirewall settings n konversation?06:20
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r0b-yes06:21
magor999i need help with ndiswrapper06:21
r0b-i need to find out how to make konversation use a proxy06:21
r0b-:P06:21
dr_willisproxy is not a firewall06:21
magor999can any one help me?06:22
r0b-now can i make it use it though06:22
jacobubotu06:22
r0b-???06:22
dr_willisNot sure if kde has its own proxy settings, that konversation woul duse, or if  theres some other way.  i dont use konversation06:22
dr_willisi would say- go check the konversation docs/homepage :)06:22
dr_willis!bot06:22
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jacobso can anyone else here help with my resolution problems06:23
r0b-!konversation06:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about konversation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:24
dr_willishmm...06:24
dr_willis# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig06:24
dr_willisThats not a good sign. :) heh heh...06:24
dr_willisthey tend to make rather poor x config files06:24
jacob! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31760/06:24
dr_willislooks like you are set to use   "1024x768"   res. what more do ya want? :)06:25
jacobim not though06:25
r0b-and the website isnt helping06:25
jacobbig black boxes around edges of my screen06:25
dr_willisthat sounds more like monitor overscan, or refresh rate issues06:25
jacober06:25
jacoboh06:25
dr_willisYou got a LCD or CRT monitor?06:25
jacobcrt06:25
dr_willisBingo.06:26
dr_willis:)06:26
jacobcan i use bottons on the front of it06:26
jacobbuttons*06:26
jacobstretch it out06:26
dr_willisI allready would of used them. :)06:26
dr_willisI had some crt's that got mad when i changed refresh rates on them from windows to linux,06:26
dr_willishad to tweak the buttons all the time06:26
dr_willisNow if you knew the refresh rates the monitor handles, and what windows was using. you could set up linux to use the same rates06:27
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jacobokay used buttons...LOL i feel like a total noob06:28
jacobokay...now to warcraft 3 and wine06:28
dr_willisgood LUCK with that.06:28
dr_willisYou will tell  Hitmanwilly tommorw about this? :)06:29
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jacobabout what?06:30
dr_willisYour 'res' being your monitor set wrong. :)06:31
dr_willisit may be worth while to get the rates set properly - would look better.06:31
jacoblol06:31
jacoblooks pretty good to me06:31
dr_williscould be your windows box was using a low rate then06:32
dr_willis:)06:32
jacobdo i have Linux kernel 2.6.17+ or FreeBSD kernel 6.206:32
dr_willisLinux is not BSD.06:32
dr_willis:)06:32
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dr_willisuse 'uname -a' to see your lernel version06:32
r0b-Current weather for  : Temperature: , Pressure: , Wind:06:33
magor999what comand do i use to install kubuntu06:33
dr_willismagor999,  you mean install it to a Ubuntu system>06:33
magor999install ndiswrapper*****06:33
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dr_willis!ndiswrapper06:33
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:33
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dr_williswell not much. :()06:33
magor999lol06:33
magor999i have t use windows untill i can figure it out :(06:34
dr_willisi just run wires06:34
magor999ethernet?06:34
dr_willisbeen keeping an eye on wirele4ss-n however.. its got potential - if they do it right06:34
dr_willisslowy converting network over to gigabit even. :)06:34
magor999does any one have xlink kai for kubuntu?06:36
jacobthat is WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! too coomplicated for me06:37
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dystopianrayjacob: stick to what you know06:37
dr_williswhats way too complicated?06:37
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dr_willisHopefully wireless N - cards will start OUT with some linux support from the actual makers06:38
dystopianrayi believe atheros support is nearly there in madwifi06:38
jacobwhoa06:38
jacobthat was easy06:38
dystopianrayand intel's 802.11n will hopefully be in gutsy06:39
jacobopened the cd in wine file, clicked on intsall and it came up to install it 0.o06:39
dystopianrayjacob: what did you think you were supposed to do?06:39
Daisuke_Idodr_willis: that's what i was talking about, the 4965 is their draft n chipset and it's already in their driver06:39
jacobi dont know06:39
jacoblooking at guie06:39
jacobguides saying to do all this stuff06:40
Daisuke_Idojacob: the first and only piece of advice i give to new users: don't let the command line scare you06:41
dr_willisHmm.. He left befor we coudl remind him.. we DONT read minds.. :)06:41
dr_willisheh06:41
Daisuke_Idobleh :\06:41
Daisuke_Idowas he doing graphic stuff?06:42
Daisuke_Idodriver install, something that required an X restart?06:42
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dr_willisI thought he was installing WC3 with wine'06:44
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Guilty_as_Sinneed something to handle shoutcast streams besides realplayer..   any suggestions?06:45
dystopianrayGuilty_as_Sin: amarok06:45
Guilty_as_Sinwow amarok handles shoutcast streams?06:45
dystopianrayGuilty_as_Sin: it has a built in shoutcast browser too06:46
Guilty_as_SinI use it to play my own stuff...  I had no idea..  (shows how much I've poked around in there)06:46
Guilty_as_Sinwell thanks06:46
kalorin`[00:41]  <Daisuke_Ido> jacob: the first and only piece of advice i give to new users: don't let the command line scare you06:47
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kalorin`oh oh, you said a bad word06:47
dystopianrayGuilty_as_Sin: go to the playlists tab, then 'radio streams' then there is shoutcast06:47
kalorin`like saying beatlejuice 3x!06:47
kalorin`bad things happen :)06:47
Guilty_as_Sinmine has lastfm..  don't see shoutcast.. let me recheck06:47
dystopianrayGuilty_as_Sin: are you using fiesty?06:48
Guilty_as_Sinyes06:48
Daisuke_Idowhat word?06:48
Daisuke_Idoadvice?06:48
kalorin`I can't say it06:48
Daisuke_Idocommand line?06:48
kalorin`command _ _ _ _06:48
kalorin`:)06:48
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kalorin`doh! you said it again!06:48
kalorin`;)06:48
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Roeycrimsun:  hi!!06:48
Daisuke_Idocommand line command line command line!06:48
Roeycrimsun:  Just came back from the Simpsons Movie.06:48
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NickPrestaI just had an extremely unpleasant experience with Kubuntu that I don't ever wish to have again...06:48
Roeycrimsun:  Anyway, I've gotten the mouse working (it /was/ the xmodmap issue, and I thought I had changed it but I hadn't)06:49
dystopianrayGuilty_as_Sin: then you'll have the shoutcast browser, under 'radio streams' in the playlist tab06:49
Daisuke_IdoNickPresta: and that was?06:49
Roeycrimsun:  but anyway, I had found a better method for configuring the mx1000 at this page:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MX1000Mouse06:49
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NickPrestai had a removable USB storage device and I was trying to move a few songs to it. The device was mounted as me (my username as owner but root as group) and I could not change it. So if I tried to open up Konqi and drap and drop these files, it would hang at a random place and my whole system would lock up, forcing me to restart.06:50
dr_willisxmms does shoutcast streams also06:50
NickPrestaSo then I opened Konqi as root and moved the files that way - kio would never finish writing these files so my system would hang again, forcing me to restart.06:51
dr_willisHmm.. The only thing i think ive NOT used to listen to shoutcast is realplayer. :)06:51
NickPrestaso after 30 minutes of playing around, I eventually said screw it and moved the files to my Windows partition and dragged/dropped the files from Windows.06:51
kalorin`digikam needs to support dng for conversion with batch processing06:51
kalorin`anyone have any recommendations for LCD's?06:52
kalorin`thinking about getting a couple06:52
ardchoille!hardware06:52
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport06:52
NickPrestakalorin, I have two Sceptre 20.1 Widescreen LCDs. They're quite nice (and cheap!)06:52
Roeyhi06:52
Roeyhow do I get Youtube working?06:52
ardchoillekalorin`: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport06:52
dystopianraykalorin`: get a 30" Dell widescreen06:53
Daisuke_Ido!flash | Roey06:53
ubotuRoey: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash06:53
RoeyI got it to work OK on my Feisty Fawn box at work06:53
RoeyThanks, Daisuke_Ido06:53
kalorin`yeah I'm making some color stripes right now in a .tif that I'm goign to take with a thumb drive to the store to look at them and see if they can see the differences in the colors on them06:53
dystopianrayRoey: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree06:53
Guilty_as_Sindefinitely not a shoutcast browser in my amarok06:53
kalorin`30" is out of my pricerange06:53
dystopianrayGuilty_as_Sin: are you in the 'playlists' tab?06:53
NickPrestakalorin, I got my two 20's for ~425 dollars (with tax, in Canadian dollars).06:53
Daisuke_Idoi think the only thing there by default is "Cool-Streams"06:54
dystopianrayGuilty_as_Sin: you'll see 'playlists', 'smart playlists', 'dynamic playlists', 'radio streams' and some others06:54
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Guilty_as_Sinoh snap..  didn't see the one on the left06:54
Guilty_as_Sinyeah there it is06:54
Guilty_as_Sinsorry about that06:54
kalorin`nick, yeah I'm trying to decide if I want to go that route06:54
Guilty_as_Sineverything has looked forein to me today..  sorry06:54
kalorin`problem with 20 wides' or any wide for that matter is you give up so much vertical when doing images in portrait mode06:55
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kalorin`it's bothersome06:55
NickPrestakalorin, it certainly has it's benefits and drawbacks. If you do gaming, you might want one solid monitor. If you do programming/graphic design, two monitors really rocks06:55
Roeydystopianray:  I get this:  md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz The Flash plugin is NOT installed.06:55
dr_willisIve had some issues with 2 monitors that are still annoying at times..06:55
kalorin`I have 2x19" samsung tubes and it's nice06:55
dystopianraykalorin`: tilt the monitor 90 degrees06:55
Guilty_as_Sinand synergy to compliment06:55
dystopianrayRoey: yeah there is that problem too06:55
kalorin`one is vga and the other is dvi -> vga converter -> monitor06:55
kalorin`on an ATI card06:55
kalorin`works pretty well06:55
Roeydystopianray:  what is that?06:56
kalorin`dystopianray: yeah but how to you tell X that it should draw it sideways?06:56
kalorin`:)06:56
dr_willisI got an issue now a days (since i updated somthing) that everything is defaulting to the monitor on the Left. whichis NOT what i want. :) since its the Tv.06:56
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NickPrestaI would love to stay and chat guys, but I have to wake up in a few hours for a trip to NYC so I should get some sleep. Goodnight fellas.06:56
dystopianraykalorin`: xrandr -o left06:56
Daisuke_Idokalorin`: xrandr06:56
Daisuke_Idodarnit06:56
Daisuke_Idodystopianray beat me :\06:56
Roeydr_willis:  hey hey06:57
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dystopianraykalorin`: what video card do you have?06:57
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kalorin`ati x700 pro06:59
kalorin`currently using the ATI fglrx drivers06:59
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dystopianrayah I have no idea with ati07:00
dystopianrayI know intel and nvidia will do screen rotations07:00
kalorin`yeah well that's part of the buy would be to replace it with a dual DVI out nvidia card07:00
dystopianrayif you get nvidia you can easily rotate your screen 90, 180 or 270 degrees07:00
kalorin`does anyone have any experience with nvidia cards that dont' have heatsink fans?07:00
dystopianraymine has no fan07:00
kalorin`works pretty well for you?07:01
kalorin`I want to minimize the moving parts/noise07:01
dystopianraywell it's only a fx 520007:01
dystopianrayit works for everything except games07:01
dystopianrayI think the 8500gt is passively cooled07:01
dr_williskalorin,  the MythTV guys seem to like the fx5200 for their quiet machiens07:01
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dr_willisyou can get 3rd party fans/coolers for many of the cards with either no fans.. or very quite fans07:02
kalorin`dr_willis: yeah I'm thinking in the 8500 range, but that's what I think I'm after07:02
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dr_willis8500+ will Definatly need some good cooling07:02
kalorin`I'd rather just not have to worry about a fan dying someday or whatever, just passively cool it, can't beat that for noise07:02
dystopianrayno the 8500 is the new low end budget card07:02
dystopianrayit's barely more powerful than a 520007:02
dystopianraydon't let the numbers fool you07:02
dr_willisbut whats its heat ussage.07:02
kalorin`even the 7600 would be fine with me07:02
kalorin`in that range07:02
dystopianraylow enough for passive cooling07:02
dr_willisits getting scary when GPU cards have 2+ power conectors on them07:03
dr_willisIf you say so. :)07:03
dystopianrayit's just as rubbish as a 5200, it just has extra features07:03
dr_willisgiven that i saw some 5200;s for like $30 - :) its a decent $30 car4d for my mythtv box.07:03
dr_willisthat will do all i need.07:03
dr_willisbut i got a 5500 given to me. using that for now.07:04
Guilty_as_SinI want my kde menu to be like the one on my sabayon box..  is that just beagle or beagle w/ kerry fron-end??  anyone have any idea?07:04
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dr_willisask in #sabayon07:04
dr_willis:)07:04
Guilty_as_Sinyeah no doubt07:05
Guilty_as_Sinjust figured someone might know07:05
dr_willislast i tried sabayon - it wasent very.. useable.07:05
dr_willisand i HATE all this junk everyont is doing to the kde and gnome menus07:05
Guilty_as_SinI'll find out..  I like that..  pretty nice being able to tell it what to go get07:05
Guilty_as_Sinsabayon is very usable on my machine but I hate that kuroo thing07:06
Guilty_as_Sinkuroo sucks07:06
dr_willisSorry.. dont even knwo what that is. :)07:06
dystopianraykuroo is that portage frontend07:06
dr_willisill stick with the Ubuntu-of-the-week-variant07:06
Guilty_as_SinI still prefer kubuntu 10 to 1 on this particular machine07:06
Guilty_as_Sinbut I like the fact beryl works on the live cd07:07
Guilty_as_Sinor dvd rather07:07
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dystopianraysabayon is just gentoo with a whole pile of rubbish overlays07:07
Guilty_as_Sindon't think they will be able to ship it that way anymore07:07
dr_willisberyl is somthing I  try to avoide07:07
dr_willis:)07:07
Guilty_as_SinI like beryl but I only use it when other people are around .. lol07:08
dr_willisYep. some disrto makers got in trouble for the ussage of the nvidia/ati drivers and stuff a few months back. sadly07:08
dystopianraythey didn't get in trouble, they just got scared07:08
dystopianraybecuase some zealots claimed it was illegal for them to ship the drivers07:08
Guilty_as_Sinit's fun to set next to a windows user and spin your cube around and watch the flames and such07:08
Daisuke_IdoGuilty_as_Sin: then lean over and ask "so what does yours do?"07:09
Guilty_as_Sinlol07:09
Guilty_as_Singraphs07:09
Guilty_as_Sinrotf07:09
Daisuke_Idohi, i'm linux.  and i'm a pc07:09
Guilty_as_Sinbut it has tons of free trials to all kinds of stuff I could buy07:10
dr_willisVista Has a 8-ball now! :)07:10
dr_willisand a puzzle07:10
Guilty_as_Sinthat way when I get home I can spend 5 hours removing it all07:10
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Guilty_as_Sinor one hour installing linux07:10
Daisuke_IdoGuilty_as_Sin: i don't bother removing it.  i perform the equivalent of a razing and burning07:11
Daisuke_Idoexactly07:11
Guilty_as_Sin(set-up included)07:11
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Daisuke_Idolaptop's coming pre-installed with vista, and it's going byebye as soon as i crack that baby open07:11
Guilty_as_SinI haven't been using as long as most of you but I just can't imagine ever going back07:11
Daisuke_Idounfortunately i do have to install windows on it07:12
Daisuke_Idobut i think i'll go with xp instead of vista07:12
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Guilty_as_Sinyou didn't get an acer did you?07:14
Daisuke_Idono07:14
Daisuke_Idogoing with dell07:14
Guilty_as_Sinlol..  there service manual is proprietary07:14
Guilty_as_Sinyeah dell has theres direct pdf07:15
Guilty_as_Sinjust download it07:15
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Daisuke_Idoi'm not aprticularly worried about the service manual07:16
Guilty_as_Sinall I wanted to do is get inside to clean the heat sinks..  and they said I had to mail to them..  I said I don't care about the warranty.. just tell me how to get inside..07:16
Daisuke_Idoand as much as i wanted to support the dell/ubuntu project, i wanted a 17" display a little more07:16
Guilty_as_Sinno such luck..  no access to the service manual.. and one sick puppy of a laptop07:16
Guilty_as_Sincan't even boot a live one off it07:16
Guilty_as_Sinpowers down half way through07:17
Guilty_as_Sinthat version is it the same?07:17
Daisuke_Idoi've heard a few people say bad things about acer laptops07:17
Daisuke_Idoversion?07:17
Guilty_as_Sinsame kernal same packaging basically?07:17
Daisuke_Idoof ubuntu that dell ships?  standard 7.04 preinstalled07:17
Guilty_as_Sinjust curious07:18
dystopianrayit has more drivers doesn't it?07:18
Daisuke_Idonot that it has more drivers, just that the hardware it has, has open drivers available and included07:18
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Guilty_as_SinI bragged about this laptop till I discovered linux07:18
Daisuke_Ido(intel display and wireless)07:18
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Guilty_as_Sinit is the biggest pain in the ___ period as far linux support but the wifi does work07:19
kalorin`well there I've made a nice testing pattern type .tif file that I'll put on a flash drive and make them show me when shopping for lcd's07:19
Guilty_as_Sinit cuts out a lil more than I like07:19
kalorin`so i can see the gradients and stuff aren't all chunky and whatnot07:19
Guilty_as_Sinwell I will know the next time I'm out on the prowl for a new laptop07:20
Daisuke_Idothough i was able to put together a dell with the same hardware, larger screen :)07:20
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Guilty_as_SinI'm sure I can sell this one and only lose $100(us) on it if I really wanted to..  think it's worth it?07:22
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Daisuke_Idois it still under warantee?07:22
Guilty_as_SinI think I just might do that..07:22
Guilty_as_Sinyes07:22
Roeyhi... I want to change the automount point from /media to /mnt, where do I specify this?07:22
Daisuke_Idoonly $100 depreciation is good07:22
plutohello everyonw07:23
Guilty_as_Sinbut I rushed and got it right b4 the vista release so it's about 6mo old07:23
Guilty_as_Sinbut I have the upgrade disc should someone feal like a masachist07:23
Daisuke_Idoi was really considering an HP laptop, but meh...07:23
arunhello people07:23
Guilty_as_SinI spelled that wrong07:24
Guilty_as_Sinoh well07:24
plutoi install the eva just now,but it says my qq version is low and suggest me downloading a new one,what's the matter?07:24
plutohi,can anyone answer my question?07:26
Daisuke_Ido!patience07:26
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines07:26
Daisuke_Idoand you're going to have to explain the problem a little better07:26
plutosorry........07:27
Daisuke_Idono, don't be, just learn from that and continue moving forward :)07:27
Daisuke_Idothe only part of that that really applied was "not every answer is available instantly", don't take it too hard :)07:28
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plutoi think i should learn how to talk happily in irc first07:28
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hasanhi guys07:29
hasanhow can i install mp3 plugin for amarok manually ?07:29
arun!restricted07:29
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:29
dystopianrayhasan: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs07:29
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hasanthx07:30
hasanY07:30
arunhas any one heard about thunderbird? it's future is uncertain...07:32
hasanhow can i mount a partition as ntfs-3g so that i can read and write on it07:32
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hasanin fact i ve mounted it but i cant read it as a normal user07:32
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hasanonly root can read it so whenever i try to reach there i have to type root password so how can i mount it in order not to type it over and over again ?07:33
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arunthe mozilla think tank feels that thunderbird is not as profitable as firefox in terms of money and otherwise.. so they're looking at alternatives07:33
arunhttp://weblogs.mozillazine.org/mitchell/archives/2007/07/email_futures.html07:33
dystopianrayhasan: man mount07:34
dystopianrayhasan: look at the ntfs section07:34
Daisuke_Idothunderbird will live on, probably under a different name, likely under a subset of the mozilla foundation07:34
hasanhow do they gain money over a browser ?07:34
dystopianrayhasan: google pays them07:34
dystopianrayhasan: firefox defaults to having the google search box in the top right07:34
arunhasan: everytime you search using the google search bar, mozilla gets money from google07:35
hasani see07:35
hasanso i can help themm :)07:35
arunDaisuke_Ido: i hope it lives on, i really like it as an email client07:35
Biovoresame here07:35
hasanill not use search directly from google then07:35
hasan:)07:35
arunyup hasan07:35
hasanim in hurry really how can i mount that partition so that i can read it by any user07:36
dystopianrayhasan: man mount07:36
Daisuke_Idobut to be fair, a lot of that money goes to pay coders to improve things.07:36
hasani have read that moutn command but im really sleepless and i havent understood alot07:36
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dystopianrayhasan: look at the ntfs section07:36
dystopianrayhasan: go to sleep then read in the morning07:36
Daisuke_Idodystopianray: none of that deviant talk here!07:36
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dystopianraynothing wrong with man pages07:38
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dystopianraythey are an excellent resource07:38
hasandoes order matter in fstab ??07:38
hasan"/dev/hdc5 /media/win_d ntfs-3g user,defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0"07:39
hasanthats my entry for ntfs partition07:39
hasani have added user so that i can read it but i cant07:39
dystopianrayread the man page07:39
holycowwhat is the name of the app that lets you turn on beryl/compiz in latest ubuntu/kubuntu?07:39
hasan"/dev/hdc5 /media/win_d ntfs-3g user,uid=1000,gid=1000,defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0"07:39
Daisuke_Idoberyl-manager?07:39
holycowi'll install it manually later, i'm curious to see what happens if i try to turn it on with that app07:39
Daisuke_Idoin ubuntu it's desktop effects07:39
hasanis that what  i should do ?07:39
dystopianrayhasan: you need a umask07:39
Daisuke_Idothere's no real equivalent in kubuntu to my knowledge07:40
holycowDaisuke_Ido, *hmm* no don't think so, its a gnome app, was under applications i think07:40
holycowor settings or whatever that is in gnome07:40
arunviewing videos in anything larger than the 'default' size doesn't work with beryl and compiz, at least for me07:40
holycowDaisuke_Ido, i know i don't want the kde equivalent i just was wondering what the app is called, we can still run it :)07:40
hasan"/dev/hdc5 /media/win_d ntfs-3g user,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=0755,defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0"07:41
hasanis that it ?07:41
dystopianrayhasan: try it out07:41
Daisuke_Idogood point07:41
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holycowDaisuke_Ido, desktop-effects it07:42
holycowis even07:42
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hasanpermission denied07:42
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dystopianrayhasan: umask=02207:44
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jtrzhow do i configure to dual boot ubuntu and phantomix07:48
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jtrzubuntu or phantomix07:49
arunhas anyone used the Zimbra suite of products?07:50
ardchoille!dual-boot07:51
ubotuDual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)07:51
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jtrzthx07:51
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BlackNovahi, how can connect to internet via vmware ? I have installed vmware on Windows XP07:53
arunBlackNova: when you choose the network settings, select NAT07:53
hasan"/dev/sda5 /media/win_d ntfs-3g user,uid=gid=1000,umask=0755,defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0"07:54
jtrzno windows,i want a selection at boot to opt between linux flavors07:54
BlackNovawhat about IP,Subnet,DefaultGateway, And Nat should be on my network adapter or on VMware adapter ?07:55
BlackNovaarun, ?07:55
hasan"/dev/sda5 /media/win_d ntfs-3g user,uid=gid=1000,umask=022,defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0"07:55
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hasani have written that but still i cant cd to that dir07:55
arunBlackNova: when you install vmware, you're asked to select an option for networking07:55
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hasanhow can i view my uid gid ?07:56
AcEis there a theme engine for qt that uses gtk themes?07:56
BlackNovaarun, yes, i did that, but i still have a problem07:57
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arunBlackNova: what's the problem07:58
BlackNovai cant connect to internet07:58
arunBlackNova: do you have vmware open?07:59
arunright now07:59
BlackNovalet me run it07:59
arunBlackNova: shut down your windows, or whichever other OS you're using on VMware, and go to the summary page for the OS (select the tab). Over there will be an option to 'edit virtual machine settings'. click that08:00
BlackNovaarun, i did08:01
arunBlackNova: ok, now do you see a list of devices in the hardware tab?08:01
arunselect 'ethernet'08:02
BlackNovayes, and ethrnet is "NAT"08:02
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arunyes you'll see some options on your right once you select it08:02
gruli'm hungry, can you help me? :))08:02
arunmake sure 'connect at power on' is selected08:02
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BlackNovaarun, i did that08:03
grulthanks08:03
arunBlackNova: had you done thatbefore or did oyu do it now08:03
BlackNovabefore08:04
BlackNovaI think my problem is in "manage Virtual Networks"08:05
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BlackNovaI think i shoul change IP, subnet mask and DHCP in the "manage virtual networks"08:05
BlackNovaarun, ?08:05
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grulhey, is there any way to use the keyboard to move the mouse cursor around and click?08:08
BlackNovaarun, wer r u ? :(08:09
arunBlackNova: I guess08:09
arunsorry, i had a phonecall08:09
BlackNovaarun, so, with wich values should i set them ?08:10
gruli have a "serious" problem in xmms, i can't seem to focus the playlist without using my mouse, and my mouse is packed down in a bag :(08:10
arunopen a konsole and type 'ifconfig'08:10
Mr_Sonomaalright setting up a kubuntu install for the wife (yesterday's xp install failed miserably because of a outdated usb card i didnt care to fight with) and im looking for input as to what packages are a have to have for some web browsing. obviously firefox, w32codecs, what else?08:11
grulMr_Sonoma, maybe flash08:11
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Mr_Sonomaok firefox, w32codecs, flashplayer any other thoughts? im trying to make sure as i can that i set this machine up one time...not revisit it over and over...she emails, chats, and surfs web sometimes.08:13
BlackNovaarun, ? :D08:13
arunBlackNova: did you see my earlier message? enter 'ifconfig' in a konsole08:14
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BlackNovaarun, I though it was for someone else :p08:15
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jtrzsonoma-getautomatix08:18
hasanhi guys08:18
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hasanis there a difference when i install kde over ubuntu and brand new kubuntu installation08:18
Mr_Sonomaok what is automatix?08:18
arunMr_Sonoma: www.getautomatix.com08:19
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jtrzapt-get type of tool,with gui-privides restricted codecs,flash etc08:19
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arunAutomatix is a graphical interface for automating the installation of the most commonly requested applications in Debian based Linux operating systems.08:20
jtrzgetautomatix.com08:20
stdin!automatix | jtrz, arun, Mr_Sonoma08:20
ubotujtrz, arun, Mr_Sonoma: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe08:20
jtrzworks well with 7.0408:21
Mr_Sonomahasan,  not really if you use apt-get install kubuntu-desktop is pritty much like having just kubuntu when your in kde (although you still have your gnome apps loaded)08:21
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ardchoille!worksforme | jtrz08:21
ubotujtrz: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.08:21
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BlackNovaarun, It shows me some information about networks08:22
BlackNovaarun, what should i do now ?08:22
Mr_Sonomaah i see what automatrix is...naww i know what we want i was just trying to make sure i didnt forget any plugins08:22
arunBlackNova: see your ip address, etc08:23
hasanMr_Sonama: i try to open konqueror08:23
hasanin fact in my prior installation when i click on f8 it could open a shell under the konq windows08:24
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hasannow it does not and i cant find any link for doing that08:24
stdinhasan: is it not in the right-click menu, under actions?08:25
jtrzuboto correct08:25
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BlackNovaarun, http://i10.tinypic.com/67ed7xl.jpg08:26
Mr_Sonomahasan, you are wanting to open a terminal? or file browser/web browser?08:27
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BlackNovaarun, di u see it ?08:31
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jtrzhow to install gkismet in 7.04?08:35
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dzeroone question how do i install nvidia drivers?08:36
Roeyhey all08:36
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stdin!nvidia | dzero08:36
ubotudzero: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:36
stdinjtrz: probably by compiling it08:36
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jtrzno configure file,explain briefly08:37
jtrzjump to make?08:38
stdinjtrz: there should be a "README" file08:38
jtrzthx08:38
jtrzthe obvious08:39
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jtrzthats got it08:41
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ksivajiis there anyone using  quanta here ?08:44
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flyingtigeri am not08:46
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BlackNovahi, how can connect to internet via vmware ? I have installed vmware on Windows XP08:51
stdinBlackNova: looked at the VMware forums?08:52
BlackNovaa little, but did not found anything useful08:53
flyingtigerisn't this a linux forum?08:53
underdog5004indeed08:54
Mr_Sonomayes it is08:54
flyingtigerwhy are we being asked questions about MS?08:54
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Mr_Sonomajust a guess but maybe you should ask your vmware question in #vmware...they may know more about it08:55
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stdinBlackNova: have you set the right network interface? i.e: NAT08:57
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BlackNovastdin, yes, i use NAT08:58
BlackNovastdin, but i dont know whick ip,subnetmask,dhcp shoul i use08:59
stdinI think you also need to install some TUN driver too08:59
stdinwhat product/version of vmware ?08:59
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BlackNovaworkstation ace 609:00
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BlackNovastdin, ?09:02
flyingtigerBlackNova: check this web page, http://www.vmware.com/support/reference/win/connex_share_w2k.html for setting up vmware on Windows09:02
BlackNovathx09:03
flyingtigeryw09:03
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ksivajistdin hi09:08
stdinhi ksivaji09:08
ksivajihow to remove a package along with config files09:08
stdinksivaji: apt-get --purge remove package09:09
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stdinksivaji: or aptitude purge package, which ever you want :)09:09
ksivajiapt-get remove --purge package is same as apt-get --purge remove package is it ?09:10
stdinyeah, both should work09:11
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stdin--purge will only remove system config files, so any in $HOME will have to be manually removed09:11
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thomas_tmchi09:15
thomas_tmchaving trouble changing default sound card09:17
thomas_tmcasoundconf didnt work09:17
thomas_tmcnow it only shows the original default in list09:17
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stdinthomas_tmc: use "aplay -l" to get the name of the card you want to be default, then use "asoundconf set-default-card NameOfCard" to change it to the card you want09:18
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thomas_tmci used asoundconf set-default-card Audigy with no luck09:19
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stdindid you logout and back in after you did that command?09:19
thomas_tmcyes, i restarted09:20
thomas_tmci tried editing alsa-base09:20
thomas_tmcno luck, switched back to original09:20
thomas_tmcnow only the original default shows in asoundconf list09:21
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stdinhmm09:21
thomas_tmci've restarted several times09:21
thomas_tmcand used update-modules09:21
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thomas_tmcstill won't show09:21
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dzeroi have a problem installing nvidia drivers =/09:22
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stdinthomas_tmc: not sure then, I only have on card. you could try asking in #alsa maybe09:23
thomas_tmcright on, thanks09:23
Mr_Sonomadzero what exactly is your problem?09:24
dzerocan i copy it here?09:24
dzerocause there are many lines =/09:24
Mr_Sonoma!pastebin | dzero09:24
ubotudzero: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:24
dzerosorry i didnt see that09:25
dzerohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31771/09:25
dzeroso09:28
dzeroxd09:28
dzeroi run this command09:28
dzeroroot@linux:/home/dzero# sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run09:28
jbrouhard!kwallet09:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kwallet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:28
stdindzero: use the packages from ubuntu, not the one from nvidia.com09:28
jbrouhardbah09:28
stdin!nvidia | dzero09:28
ubotudzero: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:28
jbrouhardAnyone know how to completely disable kwallet ?  It's annoying the crap outta me09:28
dzeroi saw the ubotu09:29
dzerobut i dont know a lot of english to read them =/09:29
dzeroi speak spanish ..09:29
stdindzero: well, there is a spanish channel09:29
stdin!es09:29
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:29
jbrouhardheh09:29
dzerooh ok09:29
dzero=P09:29
dzerothanks09:29
dzerolol09:30
dzerothat is a bot?09:30
jbrouhardHow do I disable kwallet completely, or is that impossible ?09:30
stdin!bot09:30
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots09:30
dzerolol09:30
stdinjbrouhard: not sure, try asking in #kde or on of the kubuntu devs in #kubuntu-devs09:30
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dzerowho know how to put off the X server?09:32
Mr_Sonomahave you tried going into the kwallet setup and deselecting enable kde wallet sub systems jbrouhard09:32
jbrouhardMr_Sonoma: i can't even find the kwallet set up in Feisty ...09:32
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Mr_Sonomajbrouhard, do you have a open wallet in your system tray now?09:33
jbrouhardno09:33
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stdindzero: like i said, DO NOT use the nvidia.com driver, if you don't know how to stop the X server, then you won't know how to maintain the driver. use the ubuntu packages09:33
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dzerook09:33
dzeroi fouynd the09:33
dzeroubuntu packages09:34
dzeroi will send u a screen09:34
jbrouhardlemme see what I can do about kwallet..09:34
jbrouhardi think i got it09:34
jbrouhardthanks for reminding me :)09:34
Mr_Sonomahmmm im looking for where else you could do it. i know if you have an open wallet you can right click on the icon in the sys tray and select configure wallet09:35
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stdindzero: what card do you have?09:36
dzeroGeForce FX 520009:37
stdindzero: ok, close adept, open konsole and put in "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" then do "sudo nvidia-xconfig"09:38
dzero01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]  (rev a1)09:38
dzerook09:38
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dzerojust 4 mb O.o?09:40
stdinyeah09:41
dzeroit isnt more easier do "sudo su" and then u can write all commands without "sudo" at the first?09:41
stdindzero: no, it'd be easier to do "sudo -i", but there there are only 2 commands, no point in doing either09:42
dzerohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31772/09:43
dzeroit is installed? o.o'09:43
stdindzero: yeah09:44
dzeroYEI09:44
holycowis gksudo related to a particular desktop environment ... ie kde?09:44
holycowerr gnome09:44
dzeroi need to restart or smthing?09:44
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stdindzero: yeah, if you don't see X after you restart, and you only have text login. boot into recovery mode and run " cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf " that will restore it09:45
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dzerook i will copy the commands09:46
stdindzero: that's if it dose not work09:46
stdindzero: don't do it yet09:46
dzeroyes09:46
stdinholycow: well, gksudo is written in GTK, kdesu is written in Qt09:46
dzeroi know09:46
dzeroi will make it if later of the restart i have only the login box [first rr and restore] 09:47
holycowaha!09:47
holycowithought so, thank you09:47
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puntowtf is 'artsd'? it's using all of my cpu09:48
stdindon't know, artsd is the sound server09:48
dzeroi will restart09:48
dzerocya later =)09:48
stdinok :)09:49
puntoI keep killing it and it comes back09:49
stdinpunto: yes, because it's the sound server, it starts when a sound plays in KDE09:49
puntothere's nothing playing sound as far as I know09:50
puntostill, it should need 100% of the cpu to play sound09:50
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stdinit should settle down after a while09:50
dzeroit worked09:51
dzeroi think =)09:51
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puntoyeah, it settled once I did 'chmod 0 /usr/bin/artsd'09:52
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stdinpunto: not the best idea09:52
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Kr4t05This is what happens when you apply the mentality of a Windows-user to Linux.09:53
Kr4t05"Well, it doesn't work... So, rather then spend the time actually troubleshooting it, I'll just keep it from running all together."09:53
Kr4t05Good luck with that...09:54
puntoactually I went to the kde menu and checkd some option to stop running the sound server, but it kept running09:54
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_beata_I say, 'Oy'.10:00
stdinO_o10:01
_beata_I'm having trouble with firefox on my Feisty workstation.10:01
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stdindefine "trouble"10:02
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dzeroapt-get install firefox10:03
dzeroeasy =P10:03
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arunum when i run kgmailnotifier from the terminal, it exits after i close konsole. is there any way to run it without the konsole always open10:10
stdinarun: run it from the "Run Command" dialog or from the KMenu10:11
arunstdin: how do i run it from the kmenu10:11
stdinarun: there should be an entry in there10:12
arunnope10:12
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aruni'll just install kcheckgmail instead10:12
stdinarun: you can just make an entry10:13
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arunstdin: please tell me how?10:16
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stdinarun: right click the KMenu icon, click Menu Editor, click the section you want it in and go to File  New Item10:17
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arunthanks, works10:19
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arunthe script doesn't seem to be working though.. it says 'connection failed'10:20
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arunoh works now after i typed that10:21
arunha10:21
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arunstdin: which windeco do you use?10:27
stdinright now I'm just using kwin10:27
arunno i mean what window decoration theme?10:30
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stdinPlastic10:31
stdin*PlastiK10:31
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ksivaji how to restore the default setting of a package (quanta)10:38
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Mr_Sonomahow would i access another computer on my network from konsole?10:40
stdinksivaji: remove the users settings, probably in ~/.quanta (or something)10:41
stdinMr_Sonoma: access how?10:41
ksivajiok10:41
Mr_Sonomaaccess the hd10:41
Mr_Sonomado i need to do a remote login or something?10:42
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stdinMr_Sonoma: depends on how you want to access it. (samba/ssh/nfs/http/ftp,etc)10:42
Mr_Sonomasecure shell would work10:43
stdinyou'd have to have the other computer running sshd10:44
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Mr_Sonomaok10:47
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stdinMr_Sonoma: you could install the sshd server on the other PC and then "mount" the server with the package "sshfs" (with fuse), it's nice and secure too :)10:50
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Mr_Sonomaalright i'll google on that and play with it. if i have more questions i'll be back =)10:51
Mr_Sonomathanks10:51
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lucahi everyone11:06
paghello11:06
lucaI am reconfiguring my xorg file and I have some doubts about the mouse section11:06
lucaas I have a touchpad11:06
lucacan someone help me please?11:06
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stdinluca: you can select anything there, the touchpad will be just "detected"11:08
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backtickhi all, i installed the packages of kde 4 alpha 2 and am trying to setup a full session.. i followed the instructihttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha2.php but startkde failes with ".: 85: Can't open /home/backtick/.kde4/share/config/startupconfig"ons at11:24
backtick** followed the instructions at11:24
backtickany idea what startupconfig is?11:24
stdinbacktick: best place to ask is #kubuntu-devel11:25
backtickok thanks11:25
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Lupociao11:30
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ScarFreewillif I click to install speedcrunch it says breakinstall11:45
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vzduch?11:47
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ScarFreewill!info speedcrunch11:48
ubotuspeedcrunch: high precision calculator. In component main, is optional. Version 0.7~beta2-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 202 kB, installed size 672 kB11:48
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wepihaHi there. for an unknown reason the 'Current Local Timezone has changed from 'Pacific/NZ' to 'America/New York'. even trying to change this using the kcmshell kde-clock.desktop command the setting remains the same11:54
stdinwepiha: tried "sudo tzselect" ?11:55
wepihastdin: no change to the kde-clock11:56
adeniciostdin: do u know how to make kubuntu stop asking for your password?it's a kind of anoying11:56
stdinwepiha: hmm, is the clock wrong?11:57
stdinadenicio: you mean for admin tasks ?11:57
adeniciostdin: yes11:57
wepihastdin: if I run `date` I get 'Sun Jul 29 05:56:50 EDT 2007' -- this should be more like 'Sun Jul 29 21:56:50 NZST 2007'11:57
wepihareally strange :s11:58
adeniciostdin: they say u could modifie the txt passw but i cant even open it11:58
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stdinwepiha: hmm11:59
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wepihastdin: indeed. my initial thoughts were kde-clocks ability to display other timezones... alas it seems the local timezone has been overridden elsewhere...12:00
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stdinwepiha: what does "cat /etc/timezone" say?12:01
wepihastdin: 'Pacific/Auckland%'12:02
wepihastdin: I might try something I learnt in windoze land... reboot.12:03
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stdinit may work, who knows :p12:03
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Prophezy!network12:04
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:04
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wepihastdin: woop woop all normal12:08
stdinheh, well as long as it works :)12:09
wepihastdin: thanls. now all I need to do is discover why beryl no longer works... heh12:09
stdingood luck with that :P12:10
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Prophezyhmm... its seems, that wireless installation on kubuntus is hard :(12:13
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MaTiAz!nvidia12:13
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:13
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adeniciostdin: u know how to activat the universe etc?because i dont see adept on my feisty12:15
pag!universe | adenicio12:15
ubotuadenicio: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:15
stdinadenicio: it should be active already in feisty12:16
arunadenicio: what do you mean you don't see adept12:16
adenicioarun: i see only add/remove programme12:16
adenicioarun: is that it?12:16
stdinadenicio: it's in System -> Adept Manager12:17
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adeniciostdin: lol i feel shame lol it got so many things i didnt see it12:18
adenicio:-P12:18
stdin:)12:18
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MaTiAzI have a cool Intel Core 2 Duo sticker on my computer front panel now :D12:20
BlackNovahi, I have a problem with my DVD in kubuntu12:20
arunadenicio: you can launch programs just by pressing alt+space and typing a few letters of the program name12:20
BlackNovaKubuntu does not detect my DVD :(12:21
adenicioBlackNova: maybe because your dvd sucks :-P JOKIN12:21
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adenicioBlackNova: DID u go to disk & filesystem?12:23
adenicioBlackNova: to see if it there?12:23
adenicioarun: sick i didnt know that12:24
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BlackNovawhan i mount it to another folder it works ! but /media/cdrom0 does not work !!!12:25
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stdinBlackNova: what's the error?12:25
BlackNovathere no error12:26
BlackNovait dows not show the files on the DVD12:26
stdinBlackNova: have you tried mounting it manually, "mount /media/cdrom0" and check for errors?12:27
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BlackNovayes, when i do that it works well12:29
BlackNovabut i dont want to do that12:29
BlackNovawhy it doesnt work Automatically ?12:30
runleveltenOK, this is an extremely bizarre experience. I put Life Of Brian on, and it's all in Deutsch.12:30
stdinBlackNova: no clue, that's the command the system runs12:30
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vzduchrunlevelten: better switch the language then, the German synchronization is essentially cr*p ;)12:33
runleveltenYeah I know.. couldn't help watching it for a bit though.12:34
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adeniciorunlevelten: wa is life of brian? a game?if yes?is it good?12:37
stdinadenicio: http://imdb.com/title/tt0079470/12:38
adeniciostdin: where do u see where to activat universe multiverse?12:38
stdinadenicio: in Adept, go to File -> Manage Repositories12:39
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adeniciostdin: ok now how do i add to my source list?12:43
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adeniciolinks12:43
stdinadenicio: go to the 3rd party tab and add them tere12:43
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adenicioi did that  it went so fast i didnt even know if it work12:46
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stdinif you don't see errors then it worked12:46
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arun:)12:47
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BlackNovahow can i install Kubuntu DVD programs ?12:48
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[1] BlackNovasorry12:50
adeniciostdin: how do u modify source list manualy i enter a wrong thing now it giving me errors12:51
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stdinadenicio: press Alt-F2 and type in: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list12:51
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Prophezyhmm... where can i see, why my network program don starts?12:54
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Prophezyi click on it, but nothing happens12:54
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adeniciostdin: ok12:54
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adeniciostdin: it look like u know a lot of tings u know how to install vlc the easy way?im on there website i just find the prob i had with my conection y i coulndt surf.now i can but i dont understand much about this add line to source list to use vlc etc12:56
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adeniciohttp://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html12:57
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vzduchadenicio: sudo apt-get install vlc12:57
MaTiAzHey, do the current nvidia drivers work fine with 8800 series?12:58
vzduchno need to add an extra line to the sources for that12:58
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Prophezy!sql01:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sql - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:00
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Prophezy!PSQL01:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about psql - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:00
stdinadenicio: sudo apt-get install vlc01:01
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RurouniJHowdy all, don't suppose anyone knows of any FTPS site on the net? (I was thinking maybe one of the kubuntu distro sites...)01:01
stdinadenicio: the package is in the repositories already01:01
adeniciostdin: ???wa is the dif with admin and sudo01:01
ledementeHi, I'm attempting to set up the KTorrent Web Control plugin - but I encountered this error: Php executable isn't in default path, please enter the path manually01:01
stdinadenicio: there isn't one, sudo gives you admin rights01:02
adeniciook01:02
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stdinledemente: you need to installed php4 probably (or maybe php5)01:03
ledementeI have.01:04
ledementeUnless the problem is PHP5 (perhaps it thinks it should be PHP4?)01:04
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stdinledemente: it should work with both01:05
stdinmaybe it's looking for /usr/bin/php01:05
ledementeNo such file.01:05
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stdinledemente: try "ln -s /usr/bin/php5 /usr/bin/php"01:08
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backtickledemente: php5 installs a /usr/bin/php as well01:08
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backticktry "--reinstall"ing it01:08
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ledementeThere is no folder under bin with the string "php" in it.01:09
stdinit's not a folder01:09
backticktry $ whereis php01:09
ledementeSorry, I meant to type file01:09
Ace2016locate php?01:09
ledementewaaah!01:10
ledementeIt's there now.01:10
Ace2016or go into synaptic and right click on it and look at the files installed01:10
backtickAce2016: the apt:/ kio is faster for such task01:10
backticktry apt:/search?php in konqueror01:11
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backtick(apt:/show?php5 will show the package)01:11
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Ace2016backtick: yes your right, its is much better, thanks01:12
ledementeI found it. But it doesn't seem to be what Ktorrent was looking for.01:12
tfreirehi all, I am looking for some advice... I want to install apache FOP on kubuntu, but looks like it's not on the official repositories. is there an alternative?01:12
tfreirenot counting installing by hand, of course01:12
ledementeFOP?01:12
tfreireI will install if I have to, but if someone has it prepackaged...01:13
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Ace2016backtick: how do i get it to install from apt:/01:13
backtickAFAIK, you can't, I use apt-get in a terminal01:13
Ace2016:/01:14
Ace2016that sucks! someone went to all the trouble of creating this and didn't link it with apt??? why on earth not!01:14
backtickthe kio needs a few improvements indeed01:14
Ace2016it could have been useful as a package manager because the layout is sooo much better than all other package managers01:14
ledementebacktick: /usr/X11R6/bin/php /usr/bin/X11/php and /usr/bin/php don't seem to work...01:15
tfreireit's a xsl-fo parser, it can output in html, pdf rtf, xml, txt...01:15
backtickthe trick is finding what ktorrent is looking for01:15
tfreirepart of the apache foundation XML stuff01:15
ledementeI realised that.01:15
Ace2016what does ktorrent want with php?01:16
ledementeIt's a web interface plugin.01:16
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Ace2016ok i use azureus for everything torrent related01:16
ledementeDesigned to allow me to control my downloads from over the Interwebs. : )01:16
ledementeAce2016: great...01:17
Ace2016its taking ages to copy 56gb :(01:17
backtickledemente: seems like a bug in ktorrent http://ktorrent.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1704&highlight=php+web01:18
arunledemente: somewhat like the utorrent web function?01:18
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Ace2016i wish one hard drive manufacturor would just forget about increasing space and go for speed!01:18
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ledementearun: um, yeah.01:18
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arunledemente: nice01:19
backtickAce2016: google for "hdparm"01:19
balinthi, I've a question: why can't i switch to tty1 then back to x? if i press ctrl+alt+f1, it works fine, i can login, etc. but if i would like to change back to x (ctrl+alt+f7), the display is gone, no screen. how can i fix it? (it was the same problem @ suse, now kubuntu)01:20
Ace2016backtick: done all the tweaks already, doesn't help when the disk that is reading is an old slow drive01:20
backticki see01:20
ledementearun: yeah, it's going to be pretty useful... if it works -___-01:20
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backtickbalint: sometimes it's on f9..01:21
Ace2016hold ctrl + alt and then keep pressing all the F keys from 1 to 1201:22
Ace2016then you'll find it for sure or realise its broken, either way mystery sovled01:22
balintbacktick, yeah, but if i'm in ctrl+alt+f1, if i press ctrl+alt+f7, screen is gone, i can't get back even to tty101:23
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balintbacktick, i think this would be a bug or something (i had the some problem is opensuse aswell)01:23
backtickbalint: do you release the crtl + alt  keys each time you switch?01:23
balintbacktick, yep ;)01:24
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balinti can switching between f1-f6 i guess, but if f7, then it's gone. nothing to do (the system is running, because i can restart it with ctrl+alt+del, but no display/screen)01:24
Ace2016balint: try without releasing, and if you get stuck in tty, try loggin in, then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart see if that works, but it will kill your session01:25
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Ace2016"sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"01:25
balintAce2016, i'll give a change to it01:26
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marckiehello!01:27
marckie!ntfs01:27
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse01:27
marckie!fuse01:27
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse01:27
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marckiehow do we read and write in NTFS partition?01:29
rotemhello, i'm having trouble installing a lexmark printer no kubuntu can anyone help me?01:29
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llutz!ntfs-5 | marckie01:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-5 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:30
llutz!ntfs-3 | marckie01:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:30
balint_back01:30
balint_it doesn't working01:30
llutz!ntfs-3g | marckie01:30
ubotumarckie: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions01:30
marckieI see...01:30
marckieWill try to adept that.01:30
adeniciostop playing with the bot01:30
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balint_Ace2016, it still doesn't working01:31
carbon_monoxideHi01:31
balint_Ace2016, the screen is frozen if i try to change back to F7, and i tried the kde-restarting, but dunno i was successfull or not01:31
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carbon_monoxideI have installed a new libasound2.deb which requires libc6 2.5-501:32
carbon_monoxidebut I'm using Feisty01:32
carbon_monoxidenow I got dependency problem and have no sound01:33
carbon_monoxidehow can I install elder libsound2 package?01:33
stdin!info libsound201:33
ubotuPackage libsound2 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas01:33
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stdincarbon_monoxide: what's the package name?01:33
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stdincarbon_monoxide: you mean libasound2 ?01:34
carbon_monoxidestdin: libasound2_1.0.14-1ubuntu5_i386.deb01:34
carbon_monoxidestdin: ya I got typing mistakes, sorry01:34
ledementebacktick: am I to assume it simply does not work?01:35
stdincarbon_monoxide: fesist version is 1.0.13-1ubuntu5, so "sudo apt-get install libasound2=1.0.13-1ubuntu5" should work01:35
carbon_monoxidestdin: thanks a lot!01:36
stdincarbon_monoxide: no problem01:36
carbon_monoxidestdin: does apt-get autoclean work if I want remove the libasound2 package I had installed?01:36
stdincarbon_monoxide: no, autoclean only handles the apt cache, in /var/cache/apt/archives/01:37
stdincarbon_monoxide: unless you added a repo to your sources.list and installed with that01:38
backtickledemente: well i just tried it, and it works fine!!01:38
ledementeBah!01:38
ledementeI'm running Ubuntu, not Kubuntu... but it shouldn't make a difference.01:39
backticktry reinstalling php01:39
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backtick$ sudo apt-get install php5 --reinstall01:39
Ace2016give up and use azureus01:40
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venombonjour01:41
Ace2016hi01:41
venomya po une liste d' irc ??01:42
pag!fr | venom01:42
ubotuvenom: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:42
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Ace2016!mp301:44
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:44
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Ace2016i found this if you want to run a php server which manages your torrents http://www.torrentflux.com/01:48
carbon_monoxidestdin: thanks alot!01:48
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Ace2016its strange how much performance suffers without the nvidia driver01:55
yeniklasorI opened knotes, and select from tray minimine all notes, then my windows crashed. Windows don't have any button(close,minimize) and title now. How can I restart it without closing sessision?01:56
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stdinyeniklasor: were you using compiz/beryl?01:57
yeniklasorno it is fresh install01:57
yeniklasordidnt install anything01:57
lazz0yeniklasor,ctrl+backspace?01:58
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stdinyeniklasor: ok, try pressing alt-f2 and type in "kwin --replace" (without quotes)01:58
yeniklasorit is closing sessision :(01:58
yeniklasorok01:58
backtickAce2016: because the rendering gets done by "software" not on card ..01:58
yeniklasoralt-f2 not responding01:58
stdinhmm01:59
yeniklasoris it ctrl alt f2 ?01:59
stdinyeniklasor: no, can you open konsole?01:59
yeniklasoryes01:59
yeniklasorok trying it01:59
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Ace2016backtick: well could the software hurry it up a bit?01:59
yeniklasorstdin : oh thanks life saver it worked02:00
stdin:)02:00
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Ace2016cpu isn't even maxed :?02:00
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Ace2016how do i increase the framerate?02:00
backtickAce2016: : it's subject to scheduling, cpu/memory availability, etc02:00
backtickthe card has it's own GPU and memory02:00
backtickand the official driver makes most of them02:01
Ace2016ok i'll install the nvidia driver02:01
Ace2016i'm using nv at the mo02:01
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backticki hate that blob driver too (being propreitary and so,) but unfortunately it's the only option for me now02:02
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kaminixAnyone know if the Network Manager has improved in the new Ubuntu? The wifi part.02:04
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stdinkaminix: which "new ubuntu" feisty or gutsy?02:05
kaminixThe comming one, Gutsy?02:06
stdinit's mostly the same, so far. still uses networkmanager02:06
kaminixA newer version perhaps?02:07
stdin!info knetworkmanager02:07
ubotuknetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu12 (feisty), package size 232 kB, installed size 1496 kB02:07
stdin1:0.2~r686534-0ubuntu1 in gutsy02:07
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kaminixMaybe some improvements then. :)02:08
ledementeOkay, I just moved a downloaded after it was finished and deleted some extra files I didn't need and Ktorrent DELETED the WHOLE THING.02:08
MaTiAzlol02:09
ledementechutup. It's not funny. :'(02:09
MaTiAzSorry, I couldn't resist02:09
MaTiAzBut I feel your pain, same thing has happened to me too02:09
MaTiAzNot on ktorrent though02:09
marckieI dont use Ktorrent02:10
marckieI use Azureus...02:10
ledemente...02:10
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ledementeGREAAAT!02:10
marckieIts much better... IMHO02:10
ledementeThat fixes everything.02:10
adeniciostdin: i got the vlc up an running.but only vlc plays my video n mp3 etc.how do i get amerok an kaffein to play the same extention?02:11
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ledementeMaTiAz: *hug*02:11
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stdinadenicio: you need "libxine-extracodecs" to play mp3 in amarok02:11
Admiral_Chicagomarckie: azureus is a p2p client, ktorrent used the bit torrent protocol02:12
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marckieazureus uses torrent too...02:12
MaTiAzMeh, I should install Kubuntu on this new machine but I can't be arsed right now lol02:12
marckieactually its torrent and not p2p02:12
Admiral_Chicagomarckie: you are correct, i've been up all night and not thinking...02:13
MaTiAz:)02:13
marckieno probz admiral...02:13
marckiei use azureus as its much cleaner and easier to use.02:13
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adeniciostdin: how do u aply the change in adept for the libxine-extracodecs to install?02:13
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marckieit also gives you the option to see the download bar of 1 or more of your downloads...02:14
stdinadenicio: press apply02:14
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adeniciostdin: befor it wasnt highlighted it playing games with me02:15
marckiedoes anybody here uses beryl?02:15
attunixif i download kde 4 alpha and install it, could i select kde 3 from the "sessions" menu?02:15
attunixmarckie: #beryl or #ubuntu-effects could help you :)02:15
backtickattunix: yes you can02:15
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attunixbacktick: thanks :)02:15
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stdinattunix: I assume you mean "select kde 4 from the "sessions" menu" ?02:15
backtickhe ran away because i link him/her to the instructions02:16
marckiei thought it was pre installed in Feisty?02:16
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simplexhi02:16
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marckiehi simplex02:16
marckiei thought it was pre installed in Feisty?02:16
simplexis there anyone knows how i could install new applications to kubuntu ?02:17
marckiethe beryl thing?02:17
backtickmarckie: it's compize, and in ubuntu not kubuntu (i think)02:17
backticks/compize/compiz02:17
marckieso that's why...02:17
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marckieI was wondering why i dont have beryl02:17
backtickyou can still install it though02:17
thoreauputicmarckie: beryl is in the feisty repos02:17
stdinsimplex: KMenu > System > Adept Manager02:17
marckieOk...02:18
backtickor $ sudo apt-get install beryl-kde02:18
marckiewell has anybody used it (beryl) already?02:18
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marckiecoz I have it installed in OpenSuse but it wqas crappy...02:18
backtickmarckie: i did for sometime02:18
MaTiAzWorks fine02:18
marckieI hope its not in Kubuntu...02:18
backticknot much ram so, so i disabled it02:18
marckiehow much does it need?02:18
backticki don't remember really02:19
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marckieI see...02:19
marckieThanks for the infor still02:19
marckieinformation that is...02:19
backticknp02:19
marckiety02:19
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marckieIm waiting for my updates to finish...02:20
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MaTiAzI ran beryl fine with 1GB of RAM (400MHz DDR) and Geforce 620002:20
MaTiAzWell02:20
marckieIll be installing the nvidia driver next...02:20
marckieWow! Nice Video Card02:20
MaTiAzThe GFX card was so horrible that a few windows with wobbly windows on made it cough :|02:20
marckieIs it stable?02:20
MaTiAzYeah02:21
MaTiAzBut Geforce 6200 is probably the cheapest video card you can find nowadays, so it's not nice02:21
MaTiAzBut I have a 8800GTS now :D02:21
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marckieWell here in my place its still not that cheap..02:21
lparryI have had compiz fusion working reasonably okay on a geforce go 5200 (64mb) ram, without wobbly windows02:22
lparrybut suffer from the black window bug02:22
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marckieAnyhows, how bout Karamba?02:22
lparryKaramba?02:23
lparrywhat about it?02:23
marckieHave you used it as well?02:23
marckieI wanna try these out in my Kubuntu...02:23
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MaTiAzI tested Karamba once, it was ok02:23
marckieIm afraid I might stumble mid way...02:23
MaTiAzRuns fine of course02:23
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marckieAhhh... Ok that's 2 down...02:24
marckieLastly, what Dock do you use?02:24
lparryKaramba, I don't use it not into all that widget stuff02:24
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lparry...until plasma comes :P02:24
marckieI tried Kib-dock...02:24
marckieBut it was so...so...so... unstable in my System so I dropped it...02:25
attunixfeisty-backports is the kde 4 package, right?02:25
marckieWhat's Plasma?02:25
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lparrythe big thing for kde 402:25
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marckieI see...02:25
marckieI'll check that out..02:25
lparrybasically manages all the desktop stuff, from taskbar to applets and desktop02:25
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fubakihey guys! if i want to switch into the "Monitor & Display" configuration in the system settings it crashes (signal 11)02:26
lparryhave a look at some of the screencasts, progress is going very well02:26
attunixI'm trying to upgrade to KDE 4 alpha, but I need help. I'm in http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha2.php02:26
stdinattunix: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha2.php02:26
attunixstdin: i'm there :P02:26
stdinattunix: heh :p02:26
stdinattunix: what's the problem ?02:26
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fubakithere's something with "libXrandr" or something else in the backtrace, any ideas?02:27
attunixstdin: i'm confused as to whether feisty-backports is the package i should be installing or if it's kde4base-dev :S02:27
stdinattunix: feisty-backports is the repository, not the package02:27
attunixstdin: i see. i've already enabled that. what packages should i be isntalling?02:28
stdinattunix: like it says, kde4base-dev02:28
attunixok02:28
attunixstdin: then i'll be able to switch back and forth between KDE 3 and 4, right?02:29
stdinattunix: almost, you'll have to copy and edit one of the files first.02:30
AlwaysConfused56anybody heard whats up with openoffice i can't get it to run anymore02:30
attunixstdin: what files?02:30
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stdinattunix: the one it says on the instructions02:30
attunixok02:30
vzduchAlwaysConfused56: what should be up w/ it?02:30
stdinattunix: as a warning, KDE4 isn't exactly usable right now02:31
attunixwhat do you mean? "not exactly usable"? :P02:31
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attunixexport LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/lib02:31
attunixexport KDEDIR=/usr/lib/kde402:31
attunixexport PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/bin/:$PATH       <<<Should I run these in terminal?02:31
AlwaysConfused56it loads the splash screen the bar go's across then just stops at the end it was working last week?02:31
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attunixAlwaysConfused56: you could try using KOffice :) it has more features02:32
stdinattunix: well, it's not really usable, you'll see, just follow the instructions02:32
attunixok... :P02:32
attunixstdin:02:32
attunixexport LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/lib02:32
attunixexport KDEDIR=/usr/lib/kde402:32
attunixexport PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/bin/:$PATH       <<<Should I run these in terminal?02:32
AlwaysConfused56will that write excell format02:32
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lparryattunix: why have you installed kde4, on the base filesystem?02:33
stdinattunix: where else :p yes, in konsole02:33
attunixAlwaysConfused56: I believe so.02:33
lparryor did you use a package?02:33
AlwaysConfused56kool i'll try that02:33
attunixlparry: package02:33
lparryah right, that's fine02:33
stdinlparry: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha2.php02:33
vzduchattunix: to my knowledge KOffice's ODF support is still _very_ buggy.. at least w/ 1.5.x I couldn't get my OTT files (letter templates) to open w/ KOffice02:33
wonko__oh noes! i think i encountered a circular dependency. apt keeps having problems installing/configuring these three packages: acpid, acpi-support, powermanagement-interface.02:33
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attunixcan i just directly upgrade to gutsy? :S02:34
attunixbefore release?02:34
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lparryyeah the beta will be coming soon anyways, but sometime I need to come around to compiling it (just swtiched from gentoo)02:34
stdinattunix: you *can*, but that doesn't mean you should02:34
attunix:P02:35
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wonko__if i want to "dpkg --configure acpid", it says "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1"02:36
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wonko__probably not dependency problem, sry. can somebody help please?02:37
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wonko__the others ( acpi-support and powermanagement-interface won't configure as they complain that acpid is not configured yet02:37
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Hirvinen!away | backtick02:38
ubotubacktick: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines02:38
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attunixHirvinen how do you return from away?02:39
stdinattunix: /back02:39
attunixok02:39
Hirvinenattunix: Usually in irc clients /away with no parameters ends the away.02:39
adeniciostdin: i install in adept 3ddesktop but how do i use it?and when adept finish download something an try to install it it give me an error around 16% but it still works,weird02:40
attunix/back02:40
attunixhow do i return from away02:40
attunixyay!02:40
attunixi'm back! :D02:41
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stdinattunix: i can't say about the error unless I know what it is, and I have never used 3ddesktop02:41
backtickthanks Hirvinen02:42
stdinopps02:42
stdinthat's to adenicio02:42
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adeniciostdin: ok02:42
adeniciostdin: i install 3dchess it's not in game02:43
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stdinadenicio: try running "3dchess" from the Run Command dialog02:44
attunixi'm gonna try out kde 4 now.02:44
attunixcheerio!02:44
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stdinadenicio: sometimes you need to logout and back it to see menu entrys02:44
adeniciostdin: ok02:44
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wonko__ok, i found the fix02:46
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wonko__i first killall'd hald, then /etc/init.d/acpid stop, and finally dpkg --configure -a02:46
wonko__as a mixture of two workarounds for this bug02:47
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wonko__...just in case someone in here has the same problem02:47
attunixI tried installing kde 4, but apparently nothing happpened :(02:47
attunixhow can i just upgrade to gutsy?02:47
stdinattunix: elaborate on "nothing happened"02:48
attunixstdin: it's still kde3 nothing changed; konqueror is still the file manager, etc02:48
stdinattunix: yes? did you choose kde4?02:49
attunixstdin: in the login screen, i selected sessions and there was only "KDE" - no "KDE 4" or "KDE 3" (well, along with Gnome, failsafe terminal, etc.)02:49
stdinattunix: read the instructions02:50
stdinattunix: you need to MAKE the entry02:50
attunixoh. i see.02:50
attunix:P woopss02:50
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marckiehow do i edit grub?02:52
arunhow do i connect to multiple servers using konversation?02:52
Hobbseearun: hit f202:52
marckie!grub02:52
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:52
Hobbseemarckie: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list02:52
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marckiearen't there NY7 GUI?02:52
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marckieI mean gui02:53
stdinHobbsee: sources.list??02:53
arunHobbsee: Nice02:53
arunI remember my Windows using days, when I had to open multiple mirc windows02:53
marckiecan i change the background of grub as well?02:53
Hobbseestdin: er, /boot/grub/menu.list, sorry02:53
Hobbseemarckie: apt-cache search grub splash02:54
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marckiei see...02:55
marckiety02:55
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attunixHow do I "edit the Name entry in kde4.desktop to be called "KDE 4", put the three export lines at the top of /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde and start a new session in KDM with KDE 4."?02:56
Ace2016marckie: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208855 ???02:56
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stdinattunix: open the file and edit the "Name=" part02:57
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attunixok02:58
sam1337 when I start an opengl application such as ut2004, torcs and glxgears with compiz, nvidia driver and aiglx enabled the application crashes and restarts my x. does anybody know what the problem may be? I've already tried reinstalling my graphics driver.02:58
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attunixstdin: where in startkde should ai put the three export lines?03:00
attunixbefore #!/bin/sh or after it?03:00
stdinattunix: after03:01
marckie!ntfs03:01
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse03:01
attunixstdin: immediately after, right?03:01
attunixi just wanna make sure :P03:01
stdinattunix: doesn't matter, after the "#DEFAULT KDE STARTUP SCRIPT ( KDE-3.91 )" part is fine03:02
attunixok03:02
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attunixdo I put a space after the hash or not? #export..... vs. # export....03:03
ekrengelhow do i install these splash themes?03:03
ekrengelin system settings it looks for a ksplash theme03:03
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ekrengeland all i have is theme.rc files03:03
stdinattunix: you don't put a #03:04
attunixoh03:04
attunixok03:04
attunixdoes this look good?:03:04
attunix#!/bin/sh03:04
attunix#03:04
attunix#  DEFAULT KDE STARTUP SCRIPT ( KDE-3.91 )03:04
attunix#03:04
attunix#03:04
attunixexport LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/lib03:04
attunixexport KDEDIR=/usr/lib/kde403:04
attunixexport PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/bin/:$PATH03:04
attunix# When the X server dies we get a HUP signal from xinit. We must ignore it03:04
attunix# because we still need to do some cleanup.03:04
attunixtrap 'echo GOT SIGHUP' HUP03:04
attunixetc...etc....03:04
stdin!paste | attunix03:05
ubotuattunix: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:05
attunixsorry :S03:05
stdinattunix: and yes, that's ok03:05
attunixok. thank you03:05
Apollo1In KDE: how come after setting _all_ fonts to font-size 14 or above in the system settings, there are still some programs whose fonts are way smaller than 12 pts??? How can I change this?03:05
Ace2016once you export something, how do you unexport them???03:05
attunixi'm gonna test kde 4 now. thanks for your help, stdin :)03:05
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stdinAce2016: export -n03:06
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RurouniJstdin: I am most impressed; you have the patience of a saint.03:06
Ace2016does the unexport everything?03:06
stdinRurouniJ: heh :)03:06
Apollo1Because it's hurting my eyes :(03:06
stdinAce2016: you put the name of the variable after03:06
stdinAce2016: you can also use "unset VARIABLE"03:07
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sam1337 when I start an opengl application such as ut2004, torcs and glxgears with compiz, nvidia driver and aiglx enabled the application crashes and restarts my x. does anybody know what the problem may be? I've already tried reinstalling my graphics driver.03:07
Ace2016unset worked03:08
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backtickgrr not all kde 4 alpha 2 was packaged03:08
backtickokular and kdegraphics are outdated (alpha 1)03:09
Ace2016sam1337: logout, at the login screen press alt+n, then login at the konsole, run X & DISPLAY=:0 ut2004 play and when you finish run sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart03:09
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sam1337Ace2016 I don't want to have to do that everytime I want to play the game03:10
Ace2016oh when you finish ut2004 you'll have to exit it and then press ctrl+shift+backspace03:10
Ace2016sam1337: thats what i have to, but i use xgl+beryl03:11
sam1337Ace2016 I know that my problem has a solution because I used to be able to play ut2004 before but now I can't a few months later03:11
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sam1337Ace2016 im hoping that somebody could tell me something that's needed in my xorg.conf to fix it03:12
sam1337im googling like mad atm03:12
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attunixi've done sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. how do i remove gnome and all the gnome apps?03:14
stdinattunix: try "sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop" or "sudo apt-get autoremove ubuntu-desktop"03:15
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attunixstdin: thanks.03:17
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sam1337removing ubuntu-desktop won't remove gnome03:17
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attunixsam1337: how do i do it then?03:18
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sam1337sudo apt-get remove whatever you want03:19
attunixok03:19
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sam1337you shouldn't of installed so much stuff if you didn't want it03:19
martijnhow can i find out what wifi chip i got?03:20
stdinsam1337: that's what aptitude/autoremove do03:20
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stdinmartijn: lspci03:20
sam1337stdin I don't have ubuntu-desktop installed yet autoremove won't remove any of the gnome applications03:20
sam1337I don't have any of the *-desktop packages installed03:21
stdinsam1337: does aptitude ?03:21
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martijnstdin: ethernet controller or network controller?03:21
stdinmartijn: umm, could be either03:22
sam1337does apt what?03:22
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stdinsam1337: aptitude, you can't be 1337 if you don't know aptitude :p03:23
martijndamn, wifi worked some kernel version ago, but since some months it failed to connect03:23
sam1337I know aptitude03:23
sam1337you asked me 'does aptitude?'03:24
sam1337I only picked 1337 because sam gave me name stealing messages or somnething03:24
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sam1337so I picked the first thing that came to my head03:24
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stdinsam1337: "<sam1337> stdin I don't have ubuntu-desktop installed yet autoremove won't remove any of the gnome applications" "<stdin> does aptitude" "<sam1337> does apt what?"03:25
sam1337I like 2 abb things03:26
sam1337I can't seem to get opengl applications such as ut2004 and glxgears to work with compiz fusion :(03:26
backticksam1337: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde03:27
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arunmy kwin crashed03:28
aruni didnt know it could do that03:28
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backtickit should restart itself automatically03:29
arunkaleno i had to restart x03:29
sam1337kwin --replace should bring it back03:29
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arunkalehow was i supposed to type kwin --replace03:30
arunkalenone of the keyboard shortcuts were working03:30
arunkaleand i couldn't type anything03:30
stdinarunkale: was the kmenu there ?03:30
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arunkalestdin: nope03:31
stdinthen it wasn't just kwin that crashed03:32
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sam1337the whole of kde crashed?03:32
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stdinwell the kmenu is in kicker03:32
stdinso at least kwin and kicker both crashed03:32
sam1337kicked and kwin crashed at the exact same time.... how odd03:33
backtickAce2016: http://lpnotfr.free.fr/kde-apt.shtml .. read the bottom section03:33
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Ace2016no just kicker crashed03:37
Ace2016i found out what did it in the end03:37
Ace2016it was kbfx, removing it fixed the problem03:37
Ace2016i later installed an older version to get around this, it was very annoying!03:37
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arunkalesave the cheerleader03:46
savetheWorldshe's safe thanks.. :-)03:46
stdinhuh?03:46
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arunkale:)03:47
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stdinmmmmk :p03:47
arunkaleanyone here tried out parallels for linux?03:47
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combohi, can some1 help with    http://wklej.org/id/a3ede15529    when i'm trying to run any program via Console i'm getting THAT information ?! how can fix it ?03:56
pag!baddevice | combo03:57
ubotucombo: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors03:57
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comboubotu: thanks a lot ;)03:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thanks a lot ;) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:58
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pag!botsnack03:58
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!03:58
pagcombo, ubotu's a bot ;)03:58
combopag, i can see it now ;P03:58
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combohehe03:59
comboi was just wondering - how ubotu can write so fast on keyboard :D03:59
combobut he knows very much :)03:59
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BluesKajhowdy all :)04:08
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arunkaledoes anyone here use adobe illustrator?04:11
Roeygnomefreak:  ok then... so I'll remove this repo from my sources.list04:11
Roeygnomefreak:  at any rate, thank you again so much04:11
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scott__can someone help me with beryl... i keep getting "No GLXFBConfig for Depth 32"04:23
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sveweckHi. When I plug in my external USB HDD, KDE pops up a "now what?" dialog where I choose "open". Then nothing happens. Any hints?04:24
sveweck(I didn't have luck with manual mounting either, as I don't know which device file I need. sda* don't seem to be it)04:24
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scott__check dmesg when you plug it in04:25
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scott__can anyone help me with beryl... i'm getting "No GLXFBConfig for Depth 32" and the top of the window dissapears04:27
jacobi'm new to linux, can somebody teach me how to install quicktime4linux-2.0.0-src.tar.bz2?04:27
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jacobcan somebody tell me what to do to install quicktime4linux-2.0.0-src.tar.bz204:28
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sveweckscott__: thanks :) turned out it's sdb1 - now mounted successfully. Any idea why KDE's way doesn't work anyway?04:28
Ace2016jacob: are you trying to watch a quicktime file?04:29
sveweckscott__: try #compiz-fusion04:29
scott__ive never tried mounting a harddrive i just know how to find that info out cause i always do that with my ipod04:29
jacobi want to see movie trailers with firefox at trailers.apple.com04:29
arunkalejacob: you dont need quicktime for that04:30
scott__try just downloading them and run it in mplayer04:30
arunkalejust install mplayer-plugin04:30
jacobhow do i install mplayer-plugin?04:31
jacobapt-get install mplayer?04:31
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arunkaleno no04:31
sveweckscott__: ok, thanks04:31
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ele http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/2650/kubuntublackwhitepi0.jpg  nice :=)04:31
arunkalejacob: go to adept and search for mozilla-mplayer04:31
Ace2016jacob: sudo apt-get install synaptic, then Alt+f2 and run kdesu synaptic, then search and install what you want :)04:31
arunkalealternatively you can apt-get install mozilla-mplayer04:31
nico_hello04:32
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jacoblet me try doing it the way arunkale does it, it seems shorter04:32
arunkalejacob: works for me04:32
jacobdo i need to restart my browser?04:33
Ace2016jacob: well my way you can search for stuff without knowing the package name, like flash04:33
arunkalejacob: after it's installed, yes04:33
arunkalejacob: don't install synaptic, you already have adept installed04:33
sc0tchif knetworkmanager does not show a wpa option under 'use encryption' is that a driver issue? I can manually connect to a wpa network with ipwriv/iwconfig, just not with knetworkmanager. (in ubuntu fiesty with 3.5.6 kde, 0.1 network manager)04:33
jacobso how does the plugin works04:33
jacobjust play a quicktime trailer from the site and it automatically works?04:33
arunkalejacob yes04:34
arunkaleit will be embedded on the page04:34
jacobok thanks, i'll let you know if it works04:34
arunkalesure04:34
jacobthank alot04:35
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jacobit works, i'll just add that install command into my command file list and save it to use it in the future04:35
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jacobwell it works in the movie trailers but it doesn't seem to be working on this site.............04:38
arunkalegreat, jacob04:38
arunkalewhich site?04:38
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jacobi don't suspect it's the player but the site i guess04:38
jacobhttp://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/mars/program.html04:38
jacobselect any chapter from the site and select quicktime04:38
jacobthere is an alternative way by using realplayer but i like quicktime better, its sharper04:39
jacobthx arunkale04:41
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arunkalejacob: no problem04:42
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jacobwell it also plays realplayer files04:43
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philo23hi guys, i'm having some samba problems, could any would help?04:43
jacobif i have both realplayer and mplayer, will there be any intereracne04:43
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jacobinterferance?04:43
jacobit doesn't seem to be working in the site, it used to play realplayer04:44
jacobbut now it doesnt play at all04:44
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jacobhow do i uninstall realplayer?04:47
jacoband helix?04:47
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pagjacob, depends... how did you install them?04:49
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sveweckHey, how do I check the FS type of a mounted partition?05:04
svewecknevermind05:04
sveweck:)05:04
ardchoillesveweck: mount ?05:04
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sveweckardchoille: no, /etc/mtab05:05
arunkalefsck it05:05
sveweckright thanks05:05
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ardchoillemount should tell you the type05:06
LeeJunFanyou can check for errors, but you shouldn't fix errors on a mounted partition. you'll want to boot into single mode.05:06
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LeeJunFan!fsck05:07
ubotufsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot05:07
sveweckardchoille: kay, nice, but I already saw it in /etc/mtab :-)05:07
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arunkaleum something  weird is happening.. if i ctrl z in kate, it prints the letter z05:07
arunkaleit doesnt undo05:07
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ardchoillearunkale: What happens if you ctrl+n ?05:08
sveweckarunkale: check if this shortcut's been changed (settings->configure shortcuts)05:08
arunkalesame with ctrl n and v05:08
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arunkaleand c05:08
arunkaleno shortcut is correct05:08
ardchoillearunkale: Seems kate isn't recognising your ctrl key05:08
jonathondaft thought, but have you tried the right ctrl?05:08
arunkaleit's not just in kate05:08
arunkaleit's in everything05:09
arunkalei cant copy paste files either05:09
arunkaleand i cant do it using the middle mouse button also05:09
arunkaleaaaaaa05:09
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arunkalewhat's happening05:09
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arunkalei cant even select multiple files with shift or ctrl05:09
runleveltenarunkale: sounds like one of your modifier keys is stuck05:10
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arunkalehave i activated something like sticky keys or something like that05:10
arunkalei cant even enable caps lock05:10
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arunkale4243sdfi-30] 2rqoi\05:10
sveweckHmm, /etc/mtab says my external HDD is mounted rw, but any attempt to write to it ends with "permission denied", even as root. What could be the reason?05:11
arunkalesorry about that05:11
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LeeJunFansveweck: check /proc/mounts and see if the kernel actually says it's mounted rw.05:11
runleveltenarunkale: check the keys and connection physically05:12
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gnomefreakRoey: are you still here?05:12
arunkalelet me try restarting x05:12
Roeygnomefreak:  yes05:12
hak_How can I record video from my usb 2.0 webcam?05:12
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gnomefreakRoey: does flash work for you now from feisty-proposed repos?05:13
Roeygnomefreak:  yes05:13
sveweckLeeJunFan: no, it says ro. but I mounted with `mount -w /dev/sdb1 /media/external/` - and I do have ntfs-3g installed. so...?05:13
Roeyyes it doe05:13
Roeys05:13
LeeJunFanhak_: I like using ffmpeg for that, I think VLC can do that for you as well, to a number of different formats.05:13
gnomefreakRoey: can you please comment on bug 125986 that it wokrs05:13
gnomefreakworks05:13
gnomefreakhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/125986  Roey05:13
LeeJunFansveweck: try sudo mount -oremount,rw /dev/sdb105:14
gnomefreaki need a few confirms and than i should have no issue getting it into the updates repo05:14
hak_which shell command with ffmpeg ?05:14
LeeJunFansveweck: oh, ntfs-3g, hrm, that's probably different.05:14
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Roeygnomefreak:  thanks!!!!05:14
LeeJunFansveweck: well, no - try that mount, it may do it.05:14
Roeygnomefreak:  so it'll get moved out of -proposed, then?05:14
Roeygnomefreak:  also, what did you think of that proposal to update the md5sum periodically05:15
gnomefreakRoey: yw  i need a couple of people to confirm it than i can ping archive admins about it05:15
sveweckLeeJunFan: tried it, /proc/mounts still says ro05:15
gnomefreakRoey: we were waiting on that with this version due to alot of regressions that needed to be fixed05:15
Roeygnomefreak:  cool, thanks John :)05:15
LeeJunFanhak_: look under EXAMPLES in man ffmpeg05:15
Roeyah05:15
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gnomefreakRoey: anytime :)05:15
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Roeygnomefreak:  so I'm drilling into that list of issues I made yesterday when I installed Kubuntu and am well into finishing it05:16
Roeygnomefreak:  I can post it up on the Forums if it'd help anyone (with supplemental files and configurations, too)05:16
gnomefreakRoey: good :)05:16
gnomefreakright now im tied up with a few packages im trying to get into gutsy05:17
gnomefreakflash happened to be one i had to get updated bug info05:17
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sveweckLeeJunFan: thanks anyway.05:17
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LeeJunFansveweck: I dunno, this is all I use to mount my ntfs, sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/30GWIN05:18
Roeyaye, thanks05:18
LeeJunFansveweck: and it mounts rw for me.05:18
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arunlooks like restarting x fixed it05:18
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sveweckLeeJunFan: says NTFS log file is unclean, I'll boot into Windows now to get that fixed. thx.05:20
LeeJunFansveweck: ah, must need to fix the fs.05:20
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sveweckyep05:21
LeeJunFansveweck: I think you can do that from linux if you install ntfsprogs, you can fsck it.05:21
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Karti!pgp05:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pgp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:24
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KartiHi all, any ideas where I can create a PGP  key and upload it for use for me and friends?05:24
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LeeJunFan!security | Karti05:26
ubotuKarti: If you feel the need to adopt security measures for your system, check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security - See also !root, !firewall and !server05:26
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jacobpag: "jacob , depends... how did you install them"05:26
LeeJunFanKarti: check out the gpg section.05:26
jacobare you still there pag?05:26
pagjacob, yup.05:26
KartiLeeJunFan: Just spotted it. Many thanks05:26
jacobok, so i need some help remove real player05:27
jacobpag, let me show you how i installed it05:27
jacobgive me a sec as i look for the page05:27
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jacobthis is how i installed it05:28
jacobi put ....05:28
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jacobchmod +x RealPlayer10Gold.bin in the terminal05:28
jacoband then i put05:28
jacobsudo ./RealPlayer10Gold.bin05:28
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jacobdon't worry about helix cause i already uninstalled it05:29
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jacobi just need help removing real player05:29
jacobi got the commands from this site....05:29
jacobhttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty05:29
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pagjacob, .bin's are tricky.. ty running that same thing again and see if they have an 'uninstall' option05:29
philo23hey guys, any ideas any ideas why samba doesnt seem to work?05:29
pag!doesntwork | philo2305:30
ubotuphilo23: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.05:30
jacobbut running the same thing will install the real player software all over again05:30
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jacobi don't know how to see if there is a removal option05:30
philo23well it seems to not authenticate when i try to connect to it from my pc05:31
pagjacob, did it just install or did it provide some kind of (graphical) installation dialog?05:31
jacobi installed from the two commands i just sent you that i got from this site http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty05:31
philo23it just fails what ever username/password combo i try05:31
jacobpag i put in chmod +x RealPlayer10Gold.bin05:32
pag!samba | philo23, see the docs, the mihg help05:32
ubotuphilo23, see the docs, the mihg help: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT05:32
jacobpag: and ./RealPlayer10Gold.bin05:32
pagjacob, I know what you did, I'm asking what dit it do *after* you hit enter05:32
jacobi don't remember, let me run the commands again, you want me to run the commands again?05:33
pagjacob, yeah.. it shouldn't do any more harm05:33
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jacobpag, be a little patient i need to redownload the file, will take a few secs on broadband connection05:35
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mumificirani!telnet05:36
ubotutelnet is not safe. Please use ssh instead. See !ssh05:36
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mumificirani!ssh05:36
ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/05:36
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jacobok pag05:38
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jacobit says Welcome to the realplayer setup for unix05:39
jacobsetup will help you get realplayer runnign on your computer05:39
jacobpress enter to continue05:39
curtis_hello everyone!05:39
jacobpress enter?05:39
jacobpag?05:39
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curtis_am wondering how can i listen to WMA files on ubuntu! i tried it in both gxine as well as VLC and even downloaded all the requireed codes.. but the probs stays.. the player plays it but i cant hear anything..05:40
pagjacob, mm... try following installation, and see if it offers an uninstallation option at some pont05:40
claudiociao05:40
claudiohello05:40
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pagcurtis_, w32codecs too?05:40
curtis_pag yes05:40
pagcurtis_, are those files protected with DRM?05:40
curtis_w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i38605:40
jacobit's asking me a question i don't know how to answer pag05:41
curtis_pag well they were ripped of an audio cd on xp.. and now im on linux (i have dual boot) i cant seem to play them05:41
jacobit syas configure system-wide symbolic links?05:41
jacobyes or no05:41
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jacobi'm pressing yes05:41
pagjacob, don't they are useless at this point05:41
jacobi mean no05:41
_tobiashi, when idle my some process does constant short and very audible hd-accesses roughly every second. any idea how i can find out which process is causing this?05:41
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jacobno uninstallation option05:42
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jacobi pressed no and it started tp  install05:42
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jacobi just basically reinstalled it05:42
pagjacob, hey wait! you didn't put sudo infront of the command, did you?05:42
curtis_pag: so wht do u think my prob is!05:42
jacobyes05:43
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jacobi put sudo05:43
Prophezyanyone that know how to config the wireless ???05:43
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Mr_Sonomahaving problems with one of my computers not accessing the net through my network. can ping the router from both computers and can ping the other computer from both computers, both computers are running fiesty and the networking interfaces appear to be set up the same. suggestions??? where to look next?05:44
jacobpag, i found a site you might find useful05:44
jacobhttps://player.helixcommunity.org/2005/help/playerfaq.html#mozTocId18554905:44
jacobscroll all the way down and read the last question05:44
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pagjacob, there's a uninstaller script - try that05:45
pagcurtis_, sorry, I don't know.. .wma is by itself pretty buggy, and WMP might have also added DRM to it, which messes things up even more05:46
pag!wireless | Prophezy05:46
ubotuProphezy: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:46
Prophezythanks pag :)05:46
jacobit syas "could not open "uninsht.""05:46
jacobarchive type no supported05:47
pagMr_Sonoma, hmm... and can you ping ie. google.com05:47
Mr_Sonomai had not tried pinging google05:47
Mr_Sonomabut thats the webpage im using as a test to see if i can download a page05:47
curtis_pag:  thank you i found its solution:)05:48
curtis_thanks for helping out05:48
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pagjacob, right click on it, choose "save as" (depends on your browser, but you know what I mean) and save it to your home directory05:48
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Mr_Sonomaunknown host http://www.google.com05:48
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melkormorning05:49
jacobpag:done05:49
pagjacob, afterward open konsole and doo the following: chmod +x uninstall.sh && sudo ./uninstall.sh05:49
jacobwell i'm actually using ubuntu05:49
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pagmelkor, good $timeOfTheDay to you too :)05:49
pagjacob, then open terminal - commands are the same05:49
melkorI'm running kubuntu, and I'm doing some javascripting, and it works great on mozilla, and konqueror, how do I debug it for ie05:49
BetaTesterHi all. I was wondering if someone is having an intel dualcore KUbuntu PC without ECC with uptime more than 7 days?05:50
jacobpag: sign in as root?05:50
pagjacob, use sudo - it's safer05:50
jacob./uninst.sh: 51: Syntax error: Bad substitution05:52
jacobthe first command worked05:52
jacobbut the second gave me that error05:52
paggreat. so their own script does not work.05:52
dr_willisyou might want to check the script and see if its calling /bin/sh or /bin/bash, if its using 'sh' you may want to change it to 'bash'05:52
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dr_willisits possible its a Dash vs Bash issue.05:52
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Daisuke_Idobad substitution is the same thing unreal tournament was throwing at me.  exchanging dash for bash worked great05:55
jacobhttp://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/35708-uninstall-realplayer-10-a.html05:55
krautmoin05:57
jacobpag you still ther05:57
jacob...?05:57
pagjacob, just do as dr_willis told you to - open th script in gedit (you're using gnome, right?) and change at the first line /bin/sh to /bin/bash05:58
jacobi found a site that looks pretty good05:58
jacobhttp://lists.helixcommunity.org/pipermail/player-users/2005-June/000400.html05:58
dr_willisassuming of course they dont use commands like 'sh somthing' inside the script. :)05:59
jacobnow save it?05:59
pagdr_willis, btw do you have any idea why sh was linked to dash?05:59
pagjacob, yeah05:59
dr_williswell if you edit somthing... yes - you do want to save it.05:59
dr_willispag,  'speed' and reliability,. :)06:00
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Daisuke_Idosudo dpkg-reconfigure dash06:00
dr_willisthere was a HUGE argument/thread on the dash vs bash debate when it was done.06:00
Daisuke_Ido:)06:00
jacobok i saved it06:00
dr_willisdash is the 'system shell'  - bash when called as 'sh' is Supposed tobe 'posix compliant' the problem is - BASH is NOT.06:00
harmentalhey guys....do you use an antivirus for Linux? which one?06:00
dr_willisBash has had this 'bug' for years and years..  its just now showing its head. :)06:00
dr_willisharmental,  theres very little need for one to scan the linux box. The anti-virus software out for linux. scans for WINDOWS viruses in files06:01
jacobpag: i just saved the file, what now?06:01
pagjacob, now just run it  sudo ./uninstall.sh06:01
Daisuke_Idoharmental: viruses for linux are like girls on the internet...  there's like...  306:01
dr_willisDaisuke_Ido,  and they all want YOU! :)06:01
dr_willisI cant even name 1 virus.06:01
Daisuke_Idoneither can i, it just sounded good :)06:01
harmentalDaisuke_Ido: great comparison!06:01
jacobpag: ERROR: /home/jacob/./uninst.sh is not a <UNINST_DIR>!06:01
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harmentalwhat do you think about this article then: http://www.maximumpc.com/article/protect_your_linux_box_from_viruses06:02
pagok... what does that script want now :-/  jacob, wait a second, I'll try to see how does taht cript work06:02
Daisuke_Idoi think maximumpc makes its money on sensationalism and making something out of nothing.06:02
dr_willis'microsoft beat linux in china' -  http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/07/28/1816203&from=rss06:03
hak_How can I record video from my usb 2.0 webcam. It is supporting V4L206:03
dr_willisHmm...  some of the comments are actually insightfull. :)06:03
harmentalDaisuke_Ido: ok...thank you!06:03
dr_willisMaximimPc is rather.. minimal in real info - i find06:03
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soulriderhello everyone :)06:04
pagjacob, ok.. try that command: ./uninstall.sh -l /usr06:04
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soulriderdr_willis, Daisuke_Ido, i cant name a linux virus either06:04
jacobok06:04
Daisuke_Idoharmental: the last commenter on that article has it spot on06:05
dr_willisall the 'viruses' ive heard mentioned . exploit the varoius services.. not 'linux' per se.06:05
jacobah ok, i think in know what to do06:05
dr_willisits not a linux hack , it was a dns hack, or a bind issue. or a apache issue... ect...06:06
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jacobwell a little06:06
jacobwhich option should i take06:06
Daisuke_Idothat's because "linux" isn't an OS, it's a kernel :P  but yes, i know what you mean06:06
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dr_willisWhile it is true that there are very few significant viruses that target Linux today, the plain fact is that these threats do exist, and they're far more likely to infect an unprotected PC than one that's running an antivirus app06:06
dr_willisthey dont NAME ANY either....06:06
jacobForce-remove all files including those installed to shared directories.06:06
xeniterhi06:06
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dr_willisin that artical...06:06
xeniterlinux4ever^^06:07
xeniteri have a question06:07
Daisuke_Idodr_willis: like i said, that last comment on that article has the right idea06:07
Daisuke_Idoxeniter: we have answers... sometimes06:07
jacob Guess and uninstall all found installations.06:07
dr_willisIt will, however, detect macro viruses that may infect office documents,06:07
jacobor06:07
xeniterwhat is the different between native and binary programs?06:07
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dr_willishmm.. is a 'macro virus' really a virus?  :)06:07
jacob_guys i need help quick. i cant install firefox on kubuntu06:07
pagjacob, wow... try that "guess" -option06:08
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jacob List all player installation found without actually performing uninstallation.06:08
pagjacob_, sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox  :)06:08
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dr_willisBut whatever you do, please don't keep spreading the unhelpful rumor that Linux is virus-free.06:09
bharathis there a non-GUI version of wireshark (ethereal)?06:09
dr_willisand yet.. i still cant find any....06:09
bharathi'm trying to use it's services in a script06:09
xeniter@jacob try this in console: sudo apt-get install firefox06:09
jacobi have firefox already06:10
jacobUsage: uninst [-f]  [-a]  [-l]  [-h]  [<UNINST_DIR>] 06:10
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jacobpag, i'm new to linux just to let you know06:11
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jacobwhere it says [<uninst_dir>] 06:11
jacobhow do i put that?06:11
pagjacob, try  sudo ./uninstall.sh -a /usr06:11
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dr_willisI rember why i always suggest people install games and other 'non-ubuntu' programs in their own home dirs. Not system wide06:12
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dr_willisIf he knows where the game dir is at.. he could just delete it? :)06:12
jacobit's not working06:12
pagjacob, how about /opt instead of /usr06:13
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jacobUsage: uninst [-f]  [-a]  [-l]  [-h]  [<UNINST_DIR>] 06:14
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jacob -a: Guess and uninstall all found installations.06:14
dr_willis[<UNINST_DIR>]    is saying  use the 'path to the uninstall dir'06:14
jacobi don't know what to type in next06:14
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dr_willisim not even sure what we are trying to do here. :)06:14
jacobuninst -a [then the directory] 06:14
jacobbut i don't know what to put in the directory06:15
dr_willisuninst -a /the/path/to/whjever06:15
dr_willisthats when ya gotta rember where you installed to i guess.06:15
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dr_willisof course if ya knew where the game installed to.. you could just go delete that dir06:15
pagdr_willis, we're trying to remove RealPlayer if it helps06:16
jacobi'm ganna put /home/jacob/FirefoxDownloads06:16
jacobdoesn't go06:16
jacobi also put unist -a /home/jacob/FirefoxDownloads/RealPlayer06:16
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pagjacob, try: sudo update-db && locate realplay06:18
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jacobsudo: update-db: command not found06:18
pagoh.. updatedb  it was06:19
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jacobwhat is that command for?06:20
jacobmy computer seems to be loading put no output is shown06:20
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pagjacob, it updates the file-location database06:21
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jacobit seems like is done06:21
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pagjacob, ok, now locate realplay06:21
jacobhow do i doo that?06:21
jacobcd /blah/blah/blah?06:22
pagjacob, that's a command by itself :)  just type locate realplay06:22
jacobok a bunch of stuff is displayed what now06:22
pag!paste | jacob06:22
ubotujacob: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:22
pagjacob, put everything there.06:23
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hakKopete can't lanch my usb webcam. Only showing a green screen. My webcam supporting v4l2. Working fine with Ekiga.06:25
jacobi posted it06:25
pagjacob, link to the post?06:25
hakKopete can't lanch my usb webcam. Only showing a green screen. My webcam supporting v4l2. Working fine with Ekiga. Can you help to lanch on Kopete it.06:25
rotemI am using kubuntu 7.04 feisty, and i can't install new packages the adept maneger only shows the installed ones. how can i fix it?06:25
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pagrotem, try " sudo apt-get update " in the konsole06:25
MaTiAzBTW, how does dual screen work in Kubuntu?06:26
pagMaTiAz, I've heard that with nvidia it works pretty well06:26
MaTiAzOk, good :)06:26
MaTiAzI'm planning on buying a 20" widescreen LCD and making this old 19" as the second monitor06:27
pagjacob, try doing  ./uninstall.sh -a /usr/local/RealPlayer/06:27
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jacobit just finished removing some files06:28
pagmaybe it worked then?06:29
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rotemi wrote it, but it didn't help06:29
jacobok, the program doesn't exist anymore but the name is still listed in "sound and video" from the application meny06:29
jacobmenu06:29
pagrotem, did it ouput any errors06:29
rotemno it did'nt06:29
pagjacob, ls /usr/bin |grep realplay06:30
pagrotem, ok.. try to press update within the adept06:30
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rotemno errors but still didn't help06:31
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pagrotem, ok.. file -> manage repositories  and make sure everything is enabled06:31
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jacobok06:31
Semilioshi06:31
SemiliosPlease help me to get the images from my digital camera downloaded06:32
SemiliosI get an error using "digikam" and "konqueror"06:32
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pagwhat kind of error, Semilios?06:32
Semiliospag, I'm going to reproduce the same error again06:33
Semiliosgimme a moment pls06:33
jacobpag it seems that realplayer is uninstalled but the name still remanins the the applications menu in the sound and video section06:33
jacobhow do i delete that from the list06:33
hak111kopete showing this for webcam. How can I fix it? http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5093/snapshot1yt7.png06:33
Semiliospag, still there?06:34
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pagjacob, open " alacarte " and remove it from there  (or see if it's somewhere in $PATH variables and remove from there)06:34
pagSemilios, sure - where would I go :P06:34
jacobi don't know how to open alacarte06:35
Semiliospag, when I plug in the camera,  I get a window in konqueror asking me what I want to do.   So I clicked on "Open"  which forces konqueror to start06:35
Daisuke_Idotake the green felt out from in front of the lens06:35
jacobremember that i am using ubuntu06:35
Semiliospag, the error I get then (in konqueror) is:        "Could not read file Could not claim the USB device."06:35
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Semiliospag, the address konqueror uses is:  "camera://USB PTP Class Camera@[usb:002,004] /"06:35
Semiliospag, now digikam .. gimme one more minute pls06:35
pagjacob, alacarte IS gnome programm ;)  alt+f2 and type alacarte and press enter06:35
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jhutchins!webcam06:35
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras06:35
jacoblol, thx a lot06:36
jacob...pag06:36
pagjacob, yeah np :)06:36
arunwhat's alacarte06:36
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pagarun, menu editor06:36
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arunah06:37
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dr_willislets see.. got a 500gb hd to install linux on.. how to partitionit.06:38
dr_willis100gb for / rest for /home perhaps. :)06:38
rotempag, thanks it worked06:38
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arunsounds good, dr_willis06:38
pagdr_willis, what will you do with 100GB for / ? :O06:38
dr_williscurently on a 40gb hd  and its / is almost full at 40gb >:)06:39
dr_willisof course thats also got a lot of MythTV files06:39
Semiliospag, digikam says:  "Connection Failed" as a title of the error-popup.   The message is:         "Failed to connect to camera. Please make sure its connected properly and turned on. Would you like to try again?"06:39
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Semiliospag, the camera itself tells me "conntected to the pc"06:39
pagdr_willis, oh. ok :)06:39
dr_willisfigured 100gb - would be rather long time in filling.06:39
Semiliosits a HP Photosmart E 32706:39
Semilios@ pag06:39
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pag!camera06:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about camera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:40
dr_willisbacking stuff up now. Getting ready to reinstall.06:40
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arundr_willis: how much did it cost06:40
dr_willis500gb on salw for $9906:40
dr_willissale06:41
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dr_willisgot 1 ide, and one sata. :) 2 different sales on 2 different weeks06:41
dr_willisI should put them both in this box. :) 1TB.06:41
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runlevelten!ptp06:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ptp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:43
Semiliospag?06:43
pagSemilios, I'm trying to google the problem up - no luck yet06:44
pagSemilios, add "  SYSFS{idVendor}=="03f0", SYSFS{idProduct}=="8b02", MODE="0660", GROUP="plugdev"  " to /etc/udev/rules.d/45-libgphoto2.rules06:45
Semiliosand then, pag ?06:46
pagsudo /etc/init.d/udev restart06:46
pagand then just hope it works06:47
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Semiliosthank you06:47
Semilioslets try06:47
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attunixHi. I just installed KDE with "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop," but how do I remove GNOME and all the GNOME apps?06:50
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attunixi already tried "sudo apt-get remove gnome", ".... ubuntu-desktop", and "sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop"06:51
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pagattunix, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde06:51
attunixi just read that. should i do the third option?06:51
Semiliospag, it tries to connect for a longer time but the problem is the same06:51
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pagSemilios, ok. I can't help then. sorry.06:52
pagattunix, yup.06:52
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attunixsry; Kopete crashed06:53
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attunixshould I do the third option?06:53
SemiliosThank you anyway pag06:53
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attunixpag: should I?06:53
pagattunix, yeah.. the one that begins with sudo apt-get remove alacarte...06:53
attunixok. thanks :)06:53
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DerHorst!?06:56
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ubuntu_When Kubuntu 7.10 comes out with dolphin, will you be able to choose between the two?07:00
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pagSayers, sure.07:01
Sayerspag: Alright07:02
pagSayers, you are able to do that even now07:02
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ekrengelwhere do i adjust my power options07:08
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ekrengelwith the montior and stuff07:08
ekrengel?07:08
DragnslcrSystem Settings -> Monitor & Display07:09
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ekrengelyeah i saw that...but i dont have that selected07:09
ekrengeland my monitor still turns off07:09
ekrengeli dont want it to turn off07:10
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DragnslcrI dunno then. Unless it's something in your BIOS maybe07:11
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ekrengelhmmm07:11
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ekrengelcould be a i guess...,07:11
ekrengelwhat if i have dual monitor07:11
ekrengeland since it opens 2 x sessions07:12
Ace2016my monitor turns off when ut2004 starts in 800x600 mode07:12
ekrengeli have to configure it for the other x session maybe?07:12
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ekrengelhmmm07:12
ekrengelits kinda hard to see settings on the tv07:12
ekrengel: P07:12
Ace2016lcd tv? or a crt07:13
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ekrengelits  a tv07:16
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mm_202Hi guys, I want to use NFS for my /home, but Im worried about my wireless laptop, what happens when I get away from the network.  Is there any programs out there that would let me be 'offline' and then when I get back online, it sync up to my nfs /home ?07:34
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loonytunzis ip1700 canon printer supported07:36
Biovoreloonytunz: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-PIXMA_iP170007:38
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marcolecorsehello07:40
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loonytunzthank you Biovore!07:40
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marcolecorsesa parle francais ici07:40
pag!fr07:40
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:40
marcolecorsethk07:41
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GeekosaurGreetings and salutations, y'all.07:48
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RoeyGeekosaur:  nice nick :)07:50
BluesKajgreetings fellow canuckster :)07:50
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mneptok, eh?07:54
BluesKajjhutchins!07:54
GeekosaurSorry, other system just went down...  Nick comes from faking employment in this biz since 1973 and the fact I live it.07:54
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dthackerGeekosaur: thank you for making my 20 years in the biz feel small.  I'm still so young!!! ;)07:56
jhutchins_ltHowdy BluesKaj.07:56
StoneNewtit also has a pair of coil packs rather than a dizzy07:56
StoneNewthu?07:56
GeekosaurNo problem I live to serve (r)07:56
BluesKaj<---been faking employment for 8 yrs (retired...still dream about the job tho :(07:56
dthackerhehe07:56
arunwhat jobs that07:56
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GeekosaurIt was a good biz, but It seems to be spending too much time defining things and not enough doing things.07:57
dthackerarun:  I'm a BOFH/DBA/whatever else the boss wants.07:57
arunah07:58
arundoes anyone here use a fat32 formatted external hard drive?07:58
GeekosaurI spent many fun years as a BOFH - I was a valued member of the team (If they only knew).07:59
Biovoremost people do unless they reformat it..07:59
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BluesKajWTH is BOFH ?08:00
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BluesKajsome thing for hire i know that08:00
BiovoreBastard Operator From Hell (google it.. its a series of short stories about a sys admin)08:00
GeekosaurBastar? operator from hell.08:00
enoj_How come when I try to remove apache2 by doing apt-get remove apache2 i asks if i only want to remove 86.0kB ?08:00
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Biovoreenoj_: try doing a purge of the package..08:01
ufo123how install wma codec?08:01
_4strO!codecs | ufo12308:01
ubotuufo123: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:01
enoj_Biovore: same08:01
_4strOenoj_: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache*08:02
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GeekosaurApache2 itself is not that large.  It is all the add-ons that drive it up.08:02
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_4strOanyway all are pretty light08:03
_4strO(in weight)08:03
Biovoreenoj_: is /usr/sbin/apache2 still there?08:03
enoj_Biovore: yes08:04
GeekosaurWe are all lightweights - Just ask anyone from Microsoft.08:04
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Biovoreenoj_: remove apache-common08:04
_4strO^^08:04
Biovoreapache2-common08:04
enoj_Biovore: not installed, according to apt ..i find this weird08:05
BluesKajA friend inherited an old pc ...looks like an old P2mmx 233mhz or so with 128Mb Ram...which ubuntu would run ok on it ?08:05
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BiovoreBluesKaj: not really08:06
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_4strOBluesKaj: xubuntu08:06
enoj_Biovore: but apache2.2-common was installed08:06
Biovoreenoj_: ok.. not sure what apache version your running there..08:06
BluesKajthx _4strO...gonna take a look08:06
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_4strOBluesKaj: but dont attempt to read movies or somethings like that :p08:07
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intelikeyok this makes absolutely no sense at all,  i just totally lost a peace of hardware between boots.   modem is not detectable,  worked fine for years.   all of a sudden it's not there....   but wait there's more.  i reached and turned the power off (yes with linux running) and back on.   the root fs showed as clean (that shouldn't be)  and the modem was detactable again.      </blinks>  ??? !08:08
Biovoreenoj_: might also need to remove php5-common if you have php install as well..08:08
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GeekosaurWell guys, it has been a slice, but I am off to play senior citizen.  Such is life.08:08
Biovoreintelikey: internal or external...08:08
intelikeyBiovore internal08:08
Biovoreintelikey: Pop the card out and clean up the contacts..08:09
intelikeyBiovore i don't think so.   something the kernel left in memory on reboot did it08:09
jhutchins_ltBluesKaj: I'd go with xubuntu.08:10
jhutchins_ltThat's gonna be a real dog with any kind of GUI though.08:10
jhutchins_ltMake a great router.08:10
aruni was downloading a 23GB torrent, and it got stuck at 75% and wont budge. been stuck for the past few days. i don't even feel like deleting it because i've already downloaded so much. gah.08:10
jhutchins_ltintelikey: Welcome to the wonderful world of dynamic system configuration.08:11
intelikeyBiovore and removing the card would fix it,  but not because the contacts were dirty  but because the code would be purged08:11
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intelikeyjhutchins_lt heh yeah but my system "isn't supposed to be dynamic"    ;/08:12
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Biovoreintelikey: possibly.. I know that sometimes the PCI/ISA slots can get kinda crappy over time..  The Gold is wore off and the base metal get oxidized.08:12
intelikeyi'll have to look into the clean fs issue.  that should not have happened.08:12
jhutchins_ltintelikey: All the 'buntus are dynamic, detect and configure hardware at boot.08:12
jhutchins_ltintelikey: That's what makes things like dual sound cards such a pain.08:13
jhutchins_ltintelikey: Problems with network cards changing address, etc.08:13
intelikeyBiovore yes if dirt were an issue i'd quite agree with you.   but that's not the case this time08:13
intelikeyjhutchins_lt  yeah but this is not 'buntus08:13
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pteagueanybody know if there's a way to get amarok to play wma files?  or something that will convert them back & forth to an open format?  the issue is my "mp3 playing" phone that really only supports wmas08:14
_4strO<jhutchins_lt> intelikey: That's what makes things like dual sound cards such a pain. <-- like my logitech webcam with his soundcard embeed08:14
_4strO!codecs | pteague08:14
ubotupteague: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:14
enoj_What's up with: Package libapache2-mod-php4 has no installation candidate ?08:14
pteagueyes, thank you... i've already read those pages & they don't seem to say anything about wma files08:15
Biovoreenoj_: php5?08:15
jhutchins_ltpteague: Then you're missing something.  Check the links from the Restricted Formats page.08:15
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enoj_Biovore: what do you mean? i need php4, for obvious reasons (installing applications which are php4 only)08:16
pteaguejhutchins> thanks, found it now :)08:16
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Biovoreenoj_: note sure.. install php4 then install libapache2-mod-php4..08:16
intelikeyand what does midnight commander check on the internet when you start it up ?08:17
Biovoreintelikey: It uploads you passwords file to some haxorz.. :-P j/k08:17
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intelikeyBiovore heh08:17
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intelikeyBiovore i'll dcc anyone that wants them my whole /etc   :)08:18
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dsmith_ack...08:18
enoj_Biovore: get same error when trying to install ..08:18
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enoj_E: Package php4 has no installation candidate08:18
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Biovorethere is not package called php408:20
Biovorethey just php08:20
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geeKISSexyHi!! Does anybody know how to install WebKit for KDE4 ?08:20
intelikey!info php408:20
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ubotuPackage php4 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas08:20
intelikey!info php4 dapper08:20
ubotuphp4: server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package). In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.4.2-1build1 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB08:20
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intelikeywas in dapper not in feisty08:21
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Biovore!info php08:21
ubotuPackage php does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas08:21
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Biovoreenoj_: Dosn't look like php4 is in feisty anymore..08:22
BiovoreI think the feisty php5 implemenation comes with php4 compatablility08:23
Biovoremost php4 stuff works on php508:23
enoj_Biovore: hm.. seems like a pretty dramatic thing to do, but ok.. i'll check it out08:23
DragnslcrAnd the fact that PHP5 is several years old now08:23
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DragnslcrAnd PHP4 is pretty close to end-of-life08:24
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AndyCRnetwork-manager hates my wifi card, so I'm trying to use iwconfig etc, but it's on a wpa secured connection. how do I use wpa supplicant with iwconfig?08:25
jhutchins_ltI think this is what you were looking for:08:25
jhutchins_lt!find php08:25
ubotuFound: dh-make-php, egroupware-phpbrain, egroupware-phpsysinfo, gphpedit, htcheck-php (and 166 others)08:25
intelikeyEOL is a joke,   they call it EOL when developement stops,   that should be called maturity...   EOL is really when no one uses it any more.08:26
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DasDoes Kubuntu care is it's on a ATA, or an SATA drive?08:26
enoj_Dragnslcr: well that's obvious, but php5 isn't widely adopted yet.. and i'm sure _a lot_ of apps breaks in php5 .. unless there is some extra compability like Biovore mentions08:27
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BiovoreDas: I have installed it on both..08:27
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BiovoreDas: Grub sometime guesses the boot order wrong though with sata...08:27
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DasThanks, and what's the best partition type for sharing data between Kubuntu, and Windows?08:28
intelikeydas the real question is does your bios care      short answer to your q is   NO linux doesn't care where it lives,  but bios and your boot loader have to be able to read in the kernel and initramfs pair08:28
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KartiDas: I would say Fat3208:29
intelikeydas second question is more speculative than answerable,08:29
jhutchins_ltDas: vfat's probably the easiest.08:29
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DasI want to have windows, and linuz on one HD, and all non-prgam data on the other . . . what should the other be :p08:29
jhutchins_ltDas: NTFS is possible thanks to ntfs-3g08:29
Dragnslcrenoj_- I wouldn't use any code that requires PHP4 only. It probably means the programmer isn't very good or the code isn't maintained anymore08:29
_Shade_hi08:29
jhutchins_ltDas: There are windows drivers for ext2 (&3?)08:30
_Shade_how do i export console contents to a text file?08:30
intelikeydas it should be ext#    and you should ditch windows08:30
enoj_Dragnslcr: w00t? so you mean all big PHP apps which are php4 only are dead or by poor programmers?08:30
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DasOkay - thanks all for the help, have wonderful days!08:30
Karti_Shade_: You could just cut and paste into a document08:30
Dragnslcrenoj_- yup08:30
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jhutchins_lt_Shade_: Usually cut-and-paste with the mouse.08:31
twosouls82_Shade_: command > textfile.txt08:31
Dragnslcrenoj_- PHP5 has been out for 3 years, and there were very few compatibility breaks08:31
jhutchins_lt_Shade_: You can also redirect the output of a command using >, >>, or tee.08:31
jhutchins_lt_Shade_: You can pipe it through a command (like grep) using |08:31
_Shade_Karti: jhutchins no since i have to do it in a text mode08:31
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DragnslcrAnd if you can't get PHP5 from your host, you probably want to find a better host08:31
jhutchins_lt_Shade_: GPM provides mouse functions in consoles.08:31
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intelikey_Shade_ in short "yes you can"08:32
twosouls82_Shade_: for errors to a text file: command-here 2> textfile.txt08:32
ufo123pteague: cant u play wma?08:32
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_Shade_ok thanks08:33
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fdoving_shade_: you can also redirect to vim if you want to.08:33
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twosouls82or to more or even /dev/null =)08:34
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Flare183How do you get the OCR thing to work in Krita?08:35
genefitzHey thre folks, how's it going?08:35
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intelikeyredirrecting to "more" is so M$-DOS'ish08:36
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intelikeyspecially when you can just page-up08:37
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twosouls82still one could08:38
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twosouls82:)08:38
intelikeyyeah one could      heh08:38
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intelikeyand i fear that many actually do   hehhe08:38
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intelikeyless is so much more than more,  cause more is far less than less08:39
twosouls82seen that one before, still, I like it :)08:40
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davehi08:41
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intelikeymy favorite is         anything_with_long_output_here | fold -s | less08:41
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davewhat is this08:41
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davelol08:41
intelikeydave this is the official kubuntu help channel08:41
intelikey!welcome | dave08:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about welcome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:41
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intelikey!hi | dave08:42
ubotudave: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!08:42
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przemek_helo, new on this community, has anyone could help me with Nvidia TV out issues ??08:43
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jhutchinsprzemek_: I know there are people on here who know about that.08:44
jhutchinsprzemek_: Might need to try a different time or day.08:45
jhutchins!nvidia | przemek_ Meanwhile, this might help:08:45
ubotuprzemek_ Meanwhile, this might help:: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:45
przemek_thanks for this information  :)08:45
jhutchinsprzemek_: THere's also #nvidia, I'll bet they could help.08:46
phoenixz  How can I assing a hotkey to automatically lock my session in KDE?08:47
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Roeycan someone here show me how to get to the last level in Kubuntu?08:53
RoeyI can't make it past the angry demon boss in the 'cron' zone08:53
Roeysomeone told me about a Kill-9, I think he meant Kill nail, probably a nail gun of some sort.08:54
RoeyI can't find it thoguh.08:54
Roey</bored>08:54
Roeyok08:54
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phoenixzHi all! I normally copy from another machine with ssh protocol using scp, like scp phoenixz@192.168.1.100/home/phoenixz/test .   Now, I want to be able to copy from that machine in KDE with konqueror or krusader, but how do I do this? Is it possible to mount that connection as a drive?08:58
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Kartiphoenixz: To answer your first question you can lock your desktop by using Ctrl + Alt + L08:59
phoenixzKarti, found that one already, but thanks anyway09:00
KartiThe other, I just attach myself to my network drive by adding a line to the /etc/fstab09:00
Kartiso it auto mounts on boot09:01
codeatnightor you could enter sftp://phoenixz@192.168.1.100/home/phoenixz/test in the konqueror address bar09:01
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_Shade_hi09:01
phoenixzcodeatnight, let me try that one then09:02
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gugusHi09:02
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_Shade_i tried the command > file in console but it creates an empty textfile, and i want to have an output there09:02
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phoenixzcodeatnight, worked like a charm! thanks!09:03
codeatnightyou're welcome09:03
phoenixzcodeatnight, now, just one more little question.. is it possible to mount sftp connections?09:03
rechercherAnyone know what it means when ifup eth1 says "Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1", when ifconfig and iwconfig both show an eth1 ?09:03
codeatnightwith sshfs09:03
_Shade_i can't start x server since i am getting some errors which i'd like to place in that file09:03
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_Shade_so please how do i put the console output into a text file??09:04
jhutchins!bad device | _Shade_09:05
ubotu_Shade_: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors09:05
phoenixzcodeatnight, thanks alot!09:05
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codeatnightremember to put your user among those with the permission to mount via fuse09:06
_Shade_jhutchins: i don't know if it's a bad device error09:06
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BluesKajfooling with untested edits in the xorgfile can be dangerous09:06
mojorising73can anyone help me with installation problems?09:06
rotemi have tried to install flash player 9  but when i'm opening the file from the Konsole it sais that my architecture doesn't support it. how can i fix it?09:07
ekrengelwhat are you installing?09:07
_Shade_jhutchins: i'm getting "no screens found" message09:07
jhutchins_Shade_: startx > error.log 2>&109:07
mojorising73well i tried ubuntu and then kubuntu and it hangs at the boot screen, i have to use the cd to log in now09:07
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mojorising73i've tried reinstalling both but it still happens09:09
jhutchinsmojorising73: Try the following boot options, seperately & together: noapic noacpi vga=normal09:09
_Shade_jhutchins: thanks, that helped09:10
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jhutchins_Shade_: The 2> redirects standard error messages.09:10
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jhutchinsThe &1 says send it to the same file as 1.09:10
_Shade_oh by the way... do you think i could install an xgl with gf2 card?09:11
mojorising73jhutchins: i tried writing that in the konsole but it says command not found09:12
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BluesKajmojorising73: you try editing the xorg file, changing graphics and mointor settings, but I don't know if trhe changes will hold up during reboot09:14
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mumificirani!lynx09:15
ubotuBrowsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)  -  HTTP servers: apache209:15
rotemekrengel i am installing adobe flash player 909:15
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mojorising73blueskaj: how do I do that?09:15
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raymondbonjour09:17
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przemek_join #ubuntu-pl09:17
demarcsekhi all09:17
sonjoyhi all09:17
raymondhi09:17
BluesKajmojorising73:  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , in the konsole09:18
demarcsekcan anybody write programs with the NCurses form library? i have got a problem...09:18
sonjoyI can browse thru konkqueror but ftp and this chat is working09:18
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demarcseki don't know how can i get field data (what typed by the user into the field;))09:18
sonjoysorry I can't browse thru konqueror whats wrong09:18
raymondquelqu'un parle franais09:19
BluesKajmojorising73:  the reason i suggest that is that your graphics card and monitor settings could be out of range09:19
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BluesKaj!fr | raymond09:19
uboturaymond: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.09:19
mojorising73i tried typing it in but it said it must be run as root (sorry that I am clueless)09:19
raymondok, merci09:20
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BluesKajoh sorry mojorising73: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:20
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sonjoySOS - please help. net is up and running this is the prrof. ftp is working but http is not working whats wrong?09:21
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sonjoySOS - please help. net is up and running this is the proof. ftp is working but http is not working whats wrong?09:21
rotemhi09:21
stonedomg09:22
sonjoyhi rotem can you help me?09:22
stonedi hate being sick09:22
mojorising73got it now i'm on the x server driver page09:22
stonedsomeone kill me please09:22
stonedoh the pain09:22
stonedsonjoy: http in any browser working?09:22
dsmith_stoned: go drink some warm fluids and go back to bed09:22
stonedmaybe you have a proxy set or something09:22
sonjoyno not working09:22
stoneddsmith_: yeh i just came home from work09:23
stonedtook half day, too sick09:23
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stonedin bed now09:23
jhutchinssonjoy: What browser are you trying to use?  What actually happens?09:23
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sonjoyI am first time trying kubuntu. dont know how to check firewall may be firewall is blocking me. no proxy09:23
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stonedno firewall on default09:24
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stonedwell no rules set afaik09:24
sonjoytrying konq09:24
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nanany a t il des francais ici ?09:24
mojorising73Blueskaj: I'm on the configuring xserver-xorg page, what next?09:24
stonedmaybe konq has proxy settings09:24
stonedcheck those09:24
stonedin fact09:24
sonjoyhow to chek that09:24
stonedtry to go to google.com in a text browser09:24
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stonedw3m should be installed09:24
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stonedcheck in there09:25
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stonedsonjoy: you get timeout? dns error? page not found?09:25
stonedwhat?09:25
sonjoyommmn!09:25
sonjoyno error. actually iam on gprs09:25
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sonjoyspeed is <10KBps roughly. :(09:26
BluesKajmojorising73:  use the arrow keys to navigate , the spacebar to choose resolution when you get there and, the tab key to move the cursor to "no or ok' when making choices.09:26
mojorising73blueskaj: ok, what should i choose?09:26
rotemhello i am trying to install ie4linux my computer when its done it restarts my computer, but i can't open it.09:26
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sonjoythe msg is:"09:27
sonjoyAn error occurred while loading http://www.gmail.com:09:27
sonjoyCould not connect to host http://www.gmail.com/.09:27
sonjoyfollow?09:28
sonjoystoned  :()09:28
stonedi dunno dude09:28
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BluesKajmojorising73: depends what graphics and monitor ...choose the settings with smiley faces , that means they are supposed to be compatible with your setup09:28
stonedthats ambigous09:28
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stonedsonjoy: telnet google.com 8009:28
stonedthen type GET09:28
stonedsee if you get anything09:28
sonjoythatswhy ~{09:28
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balinthi, i need help to setting up xgl on kubuntu, if somebody can help me, query me09:29
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sonjoyok thanx fttb.09:29
stonedfttb?09:29
sonjoyfor the time being09:30
jhutchins!xgl > sonjoy09:30
stonedwrong one09:30
stoned:)09:30
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balint!xgl09:30
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects09:30
stonedsonjoy: go to konsole09:30
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stonedsonjoy: type in telnet www.google.com 8009:30
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stonedthen at the new prompt, type GET09:31
jhutchins!xgl > balint09:31
stonedlets find out where the http problem is09:31
stonedfunny how ftp is working yet http is not09:31
jhutchinsstoned: Often a proxy setting in the browser.09:31
stonedjhutchins: i told him that 5 mins ago09:31
_Deviant_Hey, Could anyone help me with a Soundblaster problem? I can't seem to hear anything.09:31
balintjhutchins, ty09:31
balintjhutchins, checking09:31
jhutchinsstoned: I don't think telnet is installed by default.09:31
jhutchinsbalint: Sorry, I saw you'd figured that out for yourself.09:32
stonedyou sure09:32
stonedI think it is09:32
jhutchinsbalint: There are also tips on installinig ATI/Nvidia drivers at !ati09:32
stonedI have it and i didn't purposefully install it09:32
stonedconciously install it09:32
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sonjoyAn error occurred while loading http://www.gmail.com:09:32
sonjoyCould not connect to host http://www.gmail.com/.09:32
sonjoyroot@Dell:/home/sonjoy/firefox# telnet www.google.com 8009:33
sonjoyTrying 64.233.189.104...09:33
sonjoyConnected to www.l.google.com.09:33
sonjoyEscape character is '^] '.09:33
sonjoyGET09:33
sonjoyConnection closed by foreign host.09:33
sonjoyroot@Dell:/home/sonjoy/firefox#09:33
sonjoythats what happened09:33
stonedit connects09:33
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stonedhow many browsers have you tried yet?09:33
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sonjoykonq only. i was thinking to d load firefox and opera09:34
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sonjoystoned please don't go. i think you can solve it09:36
stonedtry another browser09:36
stoneddon't put me on the spot man09:36
stonedIcan't gaurantee any thing09:36
stonedin fact09:36
stonedI know nothin' bout nothin' dawg09:36
stonedI dunno nuthin'09:37
sonjoySORRY!09:37
stoned;)09:37
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stonedI'm just offerin basic troubleshooting09:37
sonjoyjust one thing. how to install a new application here in kubuntu unlike rpm09:37
mneptokAdept09:38
stonedsonjoy: aptitude install blah09:38
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stonedoh yeh09:38
stonedi forgot09:38
stonedthis is all gui09:38
stonedsonjoy: wha mneptok said09:38
stonedis 09:38
mneptokuse apt-get before aptitude, please09:38
stonedgood09:38
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stonedmy keyboard sucks sorry im typing line after line.09:38
stonedmneptok: why is this?09:38
stonedaptitude is superior to apt-get09:38
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stonedit has much better dependecy resolutions09:39
sonjoyso finally what to do?09:39
mneptokstoned: improvements for dist-upglades09:39
stonedit searches much much better09:39
mneptokbleh. urgrades09:39
mneptokuhnteoideht09:39
mneptokcanna type today09:39
stonedmneptok: aptitude handles all these tasks including upgrades a lot more effeciently than apt-get09:39
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mneptokstoned: i know how they work. and in Ubuntu i have been told by the distro team that Synaptic/Adept or opt-get are the way to go. so i do.09:40
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stonedwhoever told you that was either a moron, or a moron. no offense to anyone.09:40
mneptokstoned: /whois mneptok09:41
stonedand why is that?09:41
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mneptokbecause like i said, *for Ubuntu* it seems apt-get is preferable.09:41
mneptoknot because i say so. because mdz said so.09:41
stonedso I'm to take your word for it?09:41
stonedso I'm taking his word for it?09:42
stonedok...09:42
mneptokask on a list.09:42
stonedI don't need to.  I know what I know, and I know I know the correct thing.09:42
mneptokif you need to know all the reasons and whyfors, go for it. i was discouraged from using aptitude. so i don't use it. i trust the source.09:42
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stonedI just my own judgement and emperical data while testing both wrappers09:43
stonedtrust*09:43
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sonjoyHi iam feeling bad as i started the thread on install, please.....09:43
stonedaptitude seems a far better choice09:43
stonedfor me anyway09:43
stonedsonjoy: don't feed bad09:43
stonedforce a smile, look up, and instantl you'll start to feel better09:44
mneptoki'm not trying to convince you of anything other than the fact that the distro team has discouraged aptitude09:44
sonjoyok. as you say09:44
sven_oostenbrinkHi there, what plugin should I install to see PDF files in firefox? I could install adobe acrobat, but that one is slow as hell, and I remember that there was a better one  but I forgot which one..09:44
stoneddude, we're talking about ubuntu.  lol.09:44
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stonednevermind, I don't want to discuss this anymore.  I might be wrong, but I doubt it.09:44
mneptoksonjoy: i don't think anyone's angry here. :)09:44
mneptoksonjoy: people disagree all the time. adults do it far better. :)09:45
sven_oostenbrinkstoned, Its firefox under kubuntu09:45
stonedit should be09:45
sonjoyok ok then mine one was also a nice late night joke (adult too)09:45
stonedaptitude install firefox09:45
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stonedsonjoy: im so very ill09:45
stonedI haven't the energy for jokes09:45
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stonedneither the mental ability to understand most humor thrown my way09:46
stonedat least for a few more days09:46
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sonjoythat may be your courteous "APPTITUDE"?09:46
stonedI'm sorry, I don't follow09:46
stonedsonjoy: did you try a different browser?09:47
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shawnHi, I'm looking for help, installed Kubuntu Fiesty with Linux MCE, need to update ATI drivers09:47
stonedmce?09:47
shawnI think I installed them all right, following the wiki, but it shows mesa in fglrxinfo, not ati09:47
stonedshawn: I just installed xorg-video-fglrx or something09:47
stonedyou can try to backport one from gutsy09:48
shawni'm wanting to get the best performance out of the LinuxMCE09:48
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sonjoysorry i have to do it afterwards as my broadband is down and i am on mobile GPRS. as slow as <10KBps.09:48
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shawni think i just need to do that find/replace or whatever edit to get the MESA out and the ATI into the fglrx thing09:48
stonedadd a gutsy source, build-dep xorg-video-fglrx and apt-get -b source fglrx and then sudo dpkg -i blah09:48
shawndoes that sound right? I remember doing this a while back09:48
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stonedwhat do you mean mesa vs. ati?09:48
stonedi don't understand09:48
shawnwhen i do fglrxinfo it shows it using the Mesa drivers, not ATI drivers09:49
stonedwhat are you trying to do?09:49
sonjoyI will let you know afterwadrs. Thanks a lot. Bye.09:49
stonedmesa aren't really drivers09:49
stoned!info mesa-utils09:49
ubotumesa-utils: Miscellaneous Mesa GL utilities. In component main, is extra. Version 6.5.2-3ubuntu7 (feisty), package size 43 kB, installed size 148 kB09:49
stonedcheck with glxinfo09:49
shawnfglrxinfo09:49
shawndisplay: :0.0  screen: 009:49
shawnOpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org09:49
shawnOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect09:49
shawnOpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.209:49
stonedahh09:49
shawnthat's what i get, but it should be showing ATI09:49
stonedyou want direct rendering?09:49
stonedinstead of indirect?09:50
shawnhardware, not software, i think is what you are asking?09:50
shawnbut yes09:50
stonedyes09:50
stonedok09:50
shawnhttp://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide09:50
stonedI got it simply by using xorg-video-fglrx09:50
shawni tried following that09:50
shawnthought i did it fine09:50
stonedI didn' thave to do anything else09:50
shawnbut i musta missed something09:50
stonedno module asistant09:50
stonedno module compiles09:50
stonedI just installed that driver package, modified xorg.conf and vola09:50
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stonedi got 3d accel09:50
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stonedremove all ati fglrx stuff09:51
stonedunload rmmod any fglrx modules09:51
stonedthen install that xorg-fglrx drier thing09:51
shawnso you're saying not to use the ATI driver? or am I misunderstanding09:51
stonedxorg-driver-fglrx - Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators09:51
stoneddo not use ati/radeon09:52
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shawni wish everything would just be automatic and i could apt-get install ATIDRIVERS09:52
stoneddo not use ati binary drivers unless you can install it09:52
shawni have in the past...09:52
stoneddo you want this to work or not?09:52
shawnwhen Linux MCE first came out, and sometime before that as well09:52
stonedbtw, you're on 7.04?09:52
shawnso I dunno what I did wrong this time09:52
shawnyes09:52
shawnjust DLed last night09:52
stonedI dunno wtf linux mce is09:52
busfahrerExcuse me, is there any repository for a Ubuntu package of KTorrent 2.2 (or 2.2.1)?09:52
stonedbusfahrer: you can easily get it yourself09:53
stonedlike i did09:53
shawnit's a "add-on" basically... supposed to be like windows media center, but for linux09:53
stonedsudo apt-get build-dep ktorrent09:53
shawnwww.linuxmce.com i think09:53
stonedthen download the latest ktorrent source09:53
stonedtar zxvf source package09:53
stonedcompile it09:53
intelikey!info ktorrent09:53
ubotuktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1-0ubuntu2.1 (feisty), package size 2347 kB, installed size 8852 kB09:53
stonedsudo make install09:53
stoned:D09:53
SonhadorPRI need help accesing my other HDD on Kubuntu09:53
stonedor you can use dh_make to compile package yourself for ktorrent09:53
stonedI think 2.2 has a deb on ktorrent website09:53
busfahrerThe thing is, on their website it says, for 2.2.1: "Ubuntu (i368) : Dapper (being worked on), Edgy, Feisty and a Gutsy package is in the repository (Thanks to John Dong)"09:54
intelikeybusfahrer doesn't look like an official one.  no.09:54
stonedor you can backport it from gutsy09:54
stonedget the source pacakge and compile it09:54
busfahrerHow can I check whether it's in feisty-backports?09:54
stonedinstall the repo09:54
stonedshow ktorrent09:54
stonedapt-cache show09:54
stonedor policy09:54
stoneder.. add the repo in sources09:54
stonedi can't think straight and im hitting enter like crazy, please excuse me I might get annoying soon09:55
intelikeysoon ?   :)09:55
mneptokbusfahrer: it's in Gutsy09:55
stonedhehe09:55
stonedbusfahrer: add a source for gutsy deb-src09:55
busfahrer2.2 is in backports, that'll dpo09:56
busfahrer-p09:56
SonhadorPRI need help with connecting to IRC from kubuntu09:56
stonedthen get the source package from them09:56
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busfahrerthanks09:56
stonedok nm09:56
shawnDOH! i think i found my problem09:56
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stonedi like to get the latest sources09:56
mneptokbusfahrer: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/net/ktorrent09:56
shawna typo and ignoring an error...09:56
stonedsonjoy: you're ON irc09:56
stonedright now09:56
shawni never edited a file b/c i typed it wrong09:56
stoned:)09:56
intelikeySonhadorPR ?09:56
stonedwhat file?09:56
shawnlinux-restricted-modiles-common09:56
shawnin /etc/default09:56
stonedok09:57
SonhadorPRinteL: I using IRc because I doing a telnet to a VMS account.09:57
SonhadorPRmy IRC programs on kubuntu don connect09:57
sonjoyya still here. dlding firefox via ftp09:57
shawni think that was an important step.... i'm an idiot09:57
SonhadorPRI think its the firewall....I think09:57
shawnthanks for the help, hopefully all goes well after this restart09:57
stonedohnm09:57
stonedi thought you were sojoy09:57
sonjoyhumn09:57
intelikeySonhadorPR tried telnet ?09:58
SonhadorPRI am using telnet09:58
SonhadorPRright now09:58
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intelikeyok09:58
SonhadorPRbut I want to use the KSIrc, or the Chatzilla from FireFox09:58
intelikeysomething wrong with konversation ?09:58
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SonhadorPRor the X-Chat...none of those work...they wont connect to the servers09:59
_Deviant_is there anyway to get alsa to use my sound blaster instead of onboard?09:59
SonhadorPRI havent used that one yet..09:59
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SonhadorPRI think it will be the same problem..09:59
stonedyeh i been wondering09:59
SonhadorPRlet me see...09:59
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stonedhow come there is no 'alsaconf' in ubuntu?09:59
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sonjoystoned, its a .tar.gz file thats getting d'loaded09:59
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stonedsonjoy: ok09:59
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stonedsonjoy: you have a router?09:59
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stonedsonjoy: maybe you have http traffic blocked?09:59
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intelikeySonhadorPR if none of those work,  you probably guessed it correctly,      probably is an firewall  possably even upstream10:00
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stonedSonhadorPR: you at work?10:00
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sonjoyno, its connected via bluetooth and nokia 3230 simple thats it. I also thought but who blocked my admin. iam working thru root?10:01
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sonjoyi myself is the admin10:01
stonedoh boy10:01
stonedhehehe j/k10:01
SonhadorPRwell Ill be damned...the konversation works fine..10:01
SonhadorPRbut none of the other ones are connecting..10:01
stonedkonversation is good10:01
SonhadorPRthat really strange10:01
stonedi know the konversation dev10:01
stonedhe is a good kid10:01
stonedits a fine product10:02
sonhadorpr_I guess I a new konversation konvert!!10:02
sonhadorpr_hehehehehe10:02
stonedthough it is nowher near complete10:02
sonjoyya. i also tried to launch konq thru root. same thing happened10:02
stonedI myself hate konversation10:02
stonedor xchat10:02
stonedor mirc10:02
stonedugh10:02
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ubuntu__how i make cool desktop?10:02
SonhadorPRheheheh...ok10:02
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sonhadorpr_so anyway...I do have another problem with kubuntu10:03
stonedubuntu__: what kinda cool? configure it yourself cool or beryl cool?10:03
stonedubuntu__: you want 3d cubes and effcts or just a good clean desktop10:03
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intelikeyubuntu__ apply liquid nitrogen10:03
ubuntu__3d cube10:03
stonedubuntu__: go to #beryl10:03
intelikey!beryl | ubuntu__10:03
ubotuubuntu__: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects10:03
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stonedahh officialy supported?10:04
stonednice10:04
intelikeyyep10:04
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sonhadorpr_doesn anybody know how I can access my Windows HDD through kubuntu?10:04
stonedues10:04
stoned!fat10:04
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse10:04
sonhadorpr_I used to be able to do it through ubuntu, but kuuntu took that away10:04
intelikey!ntfs10:04
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse10:04
stonedsame factoid10:05
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stoned:)10:05
intelikeyno10:05
intelikeyvery simular10:05
stonedoh I meant links10:05
sonjoyvery easy. i shar with vista. all ntfs. all accessed10:05
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stonedouch10:05
stonedvista is the devil10:05
sonhadorpr_sonjoy...can you give me step-by-step instructions?10:05
sonjoyjust go to media10:05
sonjoywhat to do got built in with this dell10:06
ubuntu__no help on effectes10:06
intelikeynot the devil just written by them10:06
stonedhi guys10:06
stonedcan anyone please tell me of a cool looking zooming or bouncing panel for kde?10:06
stoneda replacement for kicker perhaps10:06
stonedfull with systray and sysmon plugins etc.10:06
SonhadorPRsonjoy, I am on the media folder...what now?10:06
adaptrtry kool..something10:07
stonedkooldock10:07
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mastery82to access NTFS do "sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g"10:07
adaptrpossibly10:07
sonjoyhome folder>redcolored folder>media10:07
mumificirani!compiz10:07
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects10:07
intelikey">redcolored folder>"   hehhe10:07
mastery82and to be able to write to nfts write to console"sudo apt-get install ntfs-config"10:08
adaptrthat shit is ooold.. who uses xgl now ?10:08
SonhadorPRno...the only media I know is the /media10:08
nixternal!language | adaptr10:08
ubotuadaptr: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.10:08
SonhadorPRon the root folder10:08
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adaptrnixternal thanks, I really needed that10:08
mastery82ok sonhadorpr_?10:09
sonhadorpr_I was following sonjoys instructions..10:10
stonedwhat did he do?10:10
sonhadorpr_but tell me...write the sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g and the what?10:10
stonednixternal: what did you do?10:10
nixternalnothing10:10
stonedok10:10
stonedI have modes and such on ignore10:10
nixternalhehe10:10
stonedI don't see anything but people chat10:10
stoned:D10:10
_Deviant_Could someone help me out, I can't seem to get my sound blaster card working.. Alsa Mixer keeps trying to use my onboard audio.10:10
stonedhow come there is no ' alsaconf ' for ubuntu10:11
stonedhow does know make alsa detect all cards then chose from it in ubuntu?10:11
stonedkubuntu?10:11
mastery82ntfs-3g is the driver to mount an ntfs drive10:11
stoneds/how does one know*10:11
stonedoof10:12
mastery82your problem is that it does not mount automatically?10:12
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stonedis there an alternative to alsaconf?10:12
mastery82or you cannot find it at all?10:12
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intelikey!sonud10:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sonud - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:12
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stoned!alsa10:12
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP310:12
SonhadorPRexactly.10:12
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SonhadorPRin ubuntu the drives were there.10:12
stonedwhat if you don't want to run arts10:12
intelikey!sound10:12
intelikeyyeah that10:12
SonhadorPR.in kubuntu they are not10:12
stonedI like to have alsa+dmix for my stuff10:13
SonhadorPRok..I did the apt-get thingy..now what?10:13
stoned!mp310:13
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:13
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intelikeystoned; goes to EOL mentality10:13
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sonjoy_sonhadorpr_: can tell me your hdd partitions10:14
intelikeyi liked/used soundcfg too10:14
stonedeh10:14
stonedI like alsaconf10:14
sonhadorpr_sonjoy: How do I do that?10:14
stonedso what is the new alternative for it?10:14
stonedway/method etc.10:14
intelikeysome gui crap i guess10:14
sonjoy_use qparted10:14
sonhadorpr_insdie a terminal window?10:14
stonedqtparted10:14
stonedfor a gui10:14
sonjoy_ya10:14
stonedsame thing10:14
stonedbut pointyclicky10:15
sonjoy_ya qtparted10:15
stonedI personally prefer cfdisk abov all10:15
intelikeysonhadorpr_ cat /proc/partitions10:15
runleveltencfdisk++10:15
sonhadorpr_hold on ..I have to install it10:15
intelikeysonhadorpr_ cat /proc/partitions10:15
intelikeysonhadorpr_   that's all you need to do  %10:15
stonedbumble bee tuna10:15
sonhadorpr_cat/proc/partitions just like that in the terminal window?10:16
fdovingi usually recommend the gparted livecd 50mb download, and it's great.10:16
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stonedwell10:16
intelikeysonhadorpr_ cat /proc/partitions10:16
stonedthe best is diamond boot cd or hiren's boot cd10:16
intelikeysonhadorpr_ the space is important10:16
stonedfor a tech, thsoe are THE tools10:16
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sonhadorpr_ok ...I just ran qtparted.10:17
sonhadorpr_i have /dev/hda and /dev/hdb10:17
sonjoy_as a beginner kbuntu user i liked qtparted10:17
intelikeyneither of which are partitions10:17
sonhadorpr_no...they are 2 differente drives10:18
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sonjoy_normally primary one is /dev/hda110:18
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intelikeyi'll stay out of it...     i'm only confusing the10:18
sonhadorpr_then that would be the hda10:18
stonedI don't like those dockers10:18
stonedi change my mind10:18
sonjoy_the extended's logical starts from /dev/hda5, /dev/hda6, this order10:18
stonedkicker is awesome10:18
stonedI'll never betray kicker again10:19
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stonedbtw, ktorrent crashes on me a lot10:19
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stonedI compiled the latest source10:19
sonhadorpr_ok...so the qtparted says The following drives have been detected...now what??10:19
stonedstable10:19
intelikeysonjoy_ caution:  could start at partition #110:19
stonedit does that on every version i've evr used10:19
stonedmostly only when i try to right click and remove finished torrents10:20
sonjoy_i told /dev/hda1 is primary. for him let it be /dev/hda5 onwards10:20
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intelikeysonjoy_ i'm just saying you are mentioning an M$ default  and possably some linux apps addopted that stratigy.  but it's possable to make hd?1 the extended partition and logicals start at 210:22
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vzduchnetsplit? o010:22
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nixternalno10:22
nixternalidiots in #ubuntu10:22
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intelikeysonjoy_ better to just look at the data and go from there,  not to say "it's like this..."  cause that's not always the case, nor does it need to be.10:23
nixternal!register10:23
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration10:23
sonjoy_sorry. thats why i used the word "normally"10:23
phoenixzHi there, I am using firefox on linux (kubuntu) What plugin could I use to see PDF files in firefox? I don't want to use adobe reader because that one is slow as hell10:23
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nixternalif your nick isn't registered, here is your warning...if they come here I will set the channel mode to +rR which means only registered users can chat10:23
vzduchnixternal: what was the matter?10:24
vzduchif you care to elaborate :)10:24
stonedyou can use kpdf10:24
klobster??10:24
nixternaldccspamming10:24
stonedit wont' be a plugin10:24
stonedor you can probably use mozplugger with kpdf helper10:24
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stonedthat might work out phoenixz10:24
stonedphoenixz: kpdf + mozplugger OR just a firefox config to launch external appliation kdpf or xpdf or gpdf10:25
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phoenixzstoned, Where could I get the mozplugger?10:25
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stonedsearch it10:26
stonedmozplugger - Plugin allowing external viewers to be launched inside Mozilla10:26
sonjoy_ya stoned i have downloaded firefox-2.0.0.5.tar.gz, extracted also. now?10:26
phoenixzstoned, gottit10:26
stonedsonjoy_: try to get to a website from frifox10:27
voicuis there a Mathematica compatible program on linux? i mean something free/opensource10:27
sonjoy_no no how to install it first?10:27
stonedvoicu: what is math10:27
stoneder..10:27
stonedmathematica10:27
voicustoned: the program10:27
stonedwhats it do10:27
voicustoned: by wolfram research10:27
stonedyou learn math?10:27
stonedfor kids?10:28
voicustoned: no, it's a tool for making calculations10:28
stonedthere are a lot of math tools in kde10:28
runleveltenhttp://www.wolfram.com/news/presslinux.html10:28
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mastery82http://linuxappfinder.com/education/math10:28
rechercherhello! anyone know if the fglrx drivers work with 2.6.20?10:28
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SonhadorPRI still don know what I doing10:29
runleveltenvoicu - you get that?10:29
stonedwhat is technical computation?10:29
voicurunlevelten: i know about the linux version of Mathematica but i want something opensource10:29
rechercheriow, do i need to downgrade my kernel to install fglrx10:29
rechercher>?10:29
stonedrechercher: no10:29
klobsterok so kde has died, and I can't figure out what happened.  start kde fails, I am running gnome now, anyone have any ideas where i start to fix this?10:29
stonedinstall xorg-driver-fglrx10:29
rechercherok, i will try that10:29
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sonjoy_SonhadorPR: ask intelikey.10:29
runleveltenvoicu: Sorry, you just asked for a Mathematica compatible program on linux.10:30
stonedklobster: try mv ~/.kde ~/.kde_backup_july2910:30
SonhadorPRIntelikey:  I want to access my NTFS drives, how can I do this on kubuntu?10:30
rechercherstoned will that give me 3d?10:30
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stonedklobster: sudo update-alternatives --configure x-session-manager and chose kde10:30
stonedklobster: startx10:30
voicurunlevelten: i also added i wanted something free/opensource...10:30
stonedrechercher: yes10:30
intelikeySonhadorPR by following carefully the instructions on the page that ubotu gives below10:31
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intelikey!ntfs | SonhadorPR10:31
ubotuSonhadorPR: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse10:31
runleveltenvoicu: Ah, so you did.10:31
intelikey!ntfs-3g | SonhadorPR10:31
ubotuSonhadorPR: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions10:31
phoenixzstoned, so I installed it, but how do I use it?10:31
stonedphoenixz: what?10:31
stonedmy memory is horrible10:31
stonedI'm stoned yous ee10:32
phoenixzstoned, mozplugin..10:32
stonedyeh so I've never used it10:32
stonedI have no idea really10:32
SonhadorPRok...Ill try that..10:32
SonhadorPRthanx10:32
phoenixzstoned, I dont see it in the menu, I dont see anything in firefox either10:32
intelikeySonhadorPR if after carefuly reading those pages you still have trubble  come back and we'll talk.10:32
stonedphoenixz: go view a pdf file10:32
stonedphoenixz: it would be listed under about:plugins10:32
stonednowhere else10:33
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rechercherstoned, thanks, that did the trick10:33
stonedrechercher: what?10:33
rechercherstoned, just installing that driver10:33
stonedoh yeh10:33
stonedcool man :)10:33
rechercherstoned, someone else told me i had to recompile my kernel because IT WILL NOT WORK AT ALL on 2.6.2010:33
rechercherwhat a load of crap10:33
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stonedits always better to take your car to a few different mechanics and ask them10:34
SonhadorPR   it before in ubuntu, but kubuntu deleted those folders, or something..the610:34
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stoned1 might try to rip you off, the other might not know his stuff10:34
stonedetc.10:34
stonedmeaning, always ask in #kubuntu/#ubuntu before taking someone's word for it10:34
blekoshello, has anybody installed synce 0.10 in ubuntu?10:35
stonedand also research it yourself10:35
recherchernice analogy10:35
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sayersHow do I change my theme?10:36
klobsterstoned: update alternatives, will just open startkde, no?  and that is borked.  If I reboot it hangs and goes to a command prompt10:36
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stonedklobster: did you modify the script?10:36
intelikey!theme | sayers10:36
ubotusayers: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy10:36
sonjoy_I could not install or run firefox. its not working10:37
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sayersintelikey: :(, I know that, but how do I change it in KDE10:37
stonedsayers: kcontnrol10:37
klobsterstoned: no, I have done nothing10:37
stonedsayers: kcontrol10:37
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intelikeysonjoy_ may i ask why you are trying to build from source the default ubuntu browser ?10:38
stonedsayers: argh. alt + f2, tyep in kcontrol and box opens, configure your kde there10:38
intelikey!ff | sonjoy_10:38
ubotusonjoy_: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins10:38
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stonedintelikey: his http isn't working10:38
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stonedintelikey: ftp apparantly does work10:38
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stonedklobster: strange10:38
intelikeythen it's a firewall/upstream issue10:38
klobstersonjoy_: stoned: only in FF, or in all web apps?10:38
stonedklobster: did you try to move your ~/.kde?10:39
stonedstart without one10:39
klobsterstoned: I am about to.10:39
stonedmaybe it is some kde setting causing crap10:39
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klobsterstoned: I don't thnk so, i think it is before that.10:39
stonedbefore what?10:40
stonedno I mean you should mv ~/.kde ~/.kde_backup10:40
klobsterstoned: before startx is run10:40
stonedand try kde again10:40
klobsterI know.10:40
rechercherso what do you'all think of the proposed kde-gnome merger?10:40
intelikeywell at any rate sonjoy_ you'll need to install build-essential before you can compile anything   (if you haven't already done so)10:40
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stonedkde gnome what!!!10:40
klobstersonjoy_: what exactly is your HTTP issue?10:40
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stonedI absolutely HATE gtk10:40
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stonedI'd like for mozilla to put out a qt version of firefox10:41
stonedinstead of gtk10:41
x_linkHi10:41
stonedx_link: yo buddy10:41
x_linkI installe Kubuntu for like 3-4 days ago.10:41
rechercherstoned, yes, it would me nice for kde users10:41
stonedx_link: you betray debian :)10:41
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x_linkI use VLC to watch movies, but I can't fast forward or anything. When I try to do that the movie starts over again.10:41
x_linkIt wasn't like this in Debian.10:41
x_linkstoned: Hi mate.10:42
stonedx_link: just use mplayer10:42
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x_linkI have always used VLC, like it alot.10:42
stonedawe10:42
x_linkBut in Debian it wasn't like this.10:42
stonedcheck the feisty bts10:43
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stonedmaybe its a bug10:43
stonedif not, file it10:43
x_linkI don't know how to look.10:43
x_linkI use Kubuntu 7.0410:43
stoned!bts10:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:43
stonedthey don't have a bts?10:43
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stoned!bugs10:43
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots10:43
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stonedahh here it is10:43
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x_linkWhat?10:43
x_linkDid you find the bug?10:43
stonedno10:43
x_linkAhh ok =)10:44
stonedhows the old woman?10:44
x_linkI will try with mplayet now to see.10:44
stonedand kids?10:44
x_linkJust fine, thanks for asking =)10:44
stonedyou havin fun with your new system?10:44
stonedyeh man you da man10:44
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rubiconhi all10:44
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x_linkstoned: =)10:45
x_linkstoned: I don't got my new system yet.10:45
stonedx_link: I build the 8800gtx boxy today10:45
x_linkI have just upgraded this one for now.10:45
stonedahh10:45
x_linkstoned: hehe nice =)10:45
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x_linkstoned: Can you do me a favor?10:45
stoned3.0ghz amd ahtlon x2 6000 now at 3.8ghz10:45
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stonedstock cooling10:45
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rubiconplease, colud some post the following in the ATI-Driver FAQ's: If it won't work, check your BIOS-Settings for the CArd-Bus Type AGP->bad, PCI->good, full 3D10:46
sonjoy_well i shall try tomorrow. its 2.12 am and i have to be up by 6:30am. so thans guys fo ryour nice help. see you tomorrow night. again. bye. good night. you may send me doc at sonjoyganguly@gmail.com. my issue is http not working whereas ftp, irc is working. good night stoned. special thamx to stoned and intelikey :)10:46
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stoned8800gtx, 2gb pc6400, and other neat stuff10:46
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x_linkstoned: You overclocked Athlon 64 x2 6000+ to 3.8Ghz?10:46
stonedyessir10:47
x_linkThey don't oc that well.10:47
x_linkhmm ok10:47
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x_linkMax I heard is like 3.4Ghz10:47
stonedyeh well10:47
stonedthats what I do for a living man10:47
x_linkstoned: Can you try to find if there is a bug?10:47
x_linkI don't understand.10:47
stonedthe guy has money to throw around10:47
x_linkBut I read it on a site.10:47
intelikeyrubicon in #ubuntu  seaves     or nalioth maybe10:47
stonedi charge for labor, and 10% on pars10:47
stonedparts10:47
x_linkstoned: I can't watch movies iwth mplayer.10:48
x_linkI get errors.10:48
stonedsome of my techs are brilliant hardware hackers man10:48
klobsterstoned: startx boots kde even with my original .kde, but still doesn't complete the boot process properly.10:48
x_linkMaybe I need codecs or something.10:48
stonedklobster: that sucks10:48
stonedklobster: you haven't removed any packages?10:48
klobsternope10:48
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stonedwhat did you do?10:48
mastery82x_link10:48
mastery82download automatix10:48
stonedanything different at all10:49
stonedno10:49
stoneddude10:49
mastery82and install all drivers from there10:49
stonedwtf is wrong with you10:49
stonedsay no to automatix10:49
stonedsay no to automatix10:49
klobster!automatix10:49
ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe10:49
stonedsay no to automatix10:49
stonedsay no to automatix10:49
stonedok10:49
stoned4 times ought to do it10:49
x_linkstoned: I didn't do anything.10:49
stoned:)10:49
stonedi know10:49
mastery82yes i ve read that stoned10:49
mastery82but i ve been using it for 1 year now10:49
kaminix!WorksForMe10:49
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.10:49
stonedyou've ever read the actual script10:49
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stonedto see what exactly it does?10:49
intelikeyklobster tried   find ~/ -exec sudo chown `whoami` '{}' \;10:50
mastery82and it works great10:50
jacobokay guys dumb question, how do i create another account on kubuntu10:50
stonedjacob: adduser10:50
stonedman adduser10:50
stonedor kmenu>system>kuser10:51
intelikeythat does assume you don't symlink to system folders10:51
mastery82and x_link for me the best player is vlc#10:51
jacobonly root may add a user?10:51
stonedmplayer is stuff10:51
jacobthats what i got10:51
stonedjacob: true10:51
jacobso....what do i do?10:51
intelikeyjacob  sudo adduser jacob     <<<< example only10:51
stonedsudo -p kuser10:52
klobsterintellikey: this is before the boot process finishes.  It simply hangs at "running /etc/rc.d/local"` untill I hit enter, and then it shows a login prompt10:52
stoned!user10:52
ubotuTo add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo10:52
rubiconklobster: have you ruined your Xserver?10:52
mastery82!whoami10:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about whoami - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:52
mastery82!df10:52
ubotuGraphical representations of where your disk-space is being used are: baobab (GNOME), filelight / kinfocenter (Kubuntu). On the terminal: df -h -T10:52
stonedkdf10:53
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intelikeyklobster that's not a hang,  that's a prompt over written.     (case in point: rather than hitting enter type: ls   and hit enter)10:53
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klobsterI suspect you are correct.  Where would i find the log of the booting events, so that i could see what died?10:54
intelikeyklobster and yes it will ask for ls's password but you see what i'm saying.10:54
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stoned!wayttd10:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wayttd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:54
stonedits not added yet10:55
intelikeyklobster it sounds like no dm is starting    ls /etc/rc.2 | grep dm10:55
stoneddm doesn't start with startx10:55
stonedthats how he is starting X isn't he?10:55
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klobster /etc/rc2.d ?10:57
jacobhow do i get root access? i went to kmenu<system settings<user groups<administrator mode and it says i need root acces10:57
recherchersudo su10:58
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rechercheris to become root, jacob10:58
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klobsterok rebooting, bbs10:59
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jacobthank you rechercher11:00
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jacobokay, now...anyone have any experience with WINE?11:01
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jacobanyone know how to use wine with warcraft 311:02
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jacober11:06
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jacobmy adept package manager wont open11:07
twosouls82jacob: try running it from the Konsole, and see if something it printed there11:08
twosouls82s/something it/something is/11:08
klobstergot it.  kdm was turned off11:08
jacobhow do i run from konsole11:08
ruzzz  ?11:09
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klobster!ru11:09
ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke11:09
twosouls82jacob: Alt+F2 -> konsole ENTER11:09
jacobi mean11:09
twosouls82adept_manager is it called11:09
jacobhow do i run adept through the konsole11:09
jacobah k11:09
twosouls82jacob: adept_ tab tab and see11:10
klobsterhey how does kubuntu handle runlevels? I have multiuser modes 2-5; which one should I have start kdm?11:10
klobsterwhat is the difference between them?11:10
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DragnslcrI think kdm is at runlevel 511:11
Biovoreor runlevel 211:12
DragnslcrAren't 3 and 4 normally unused?11:12
DragnslcrIt's been a while since I've done anything with runlevels11:12
x_linkstoned: Do I need any codecs to play with mplayer?11:13
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Biovoreyeah.. well inittab isn't used anymore.. so I am sure what runlevel it comes up in..11:13
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jacobokay i installed firefox earlier, then created another account, how do i make firefox available for  both accounts11:13
stoned!w32codecs x_link11:13
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stoned!w32codecs | x_link11:13
ubotux_link: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs11:13
Biovorex_link: www.mplayerhq.hu11:13
x_linksudo apttiude install w32codecs11:13
x_linkok11:13
x_linkHrmm that didn't owrk.11:14
x_linkwork11:14
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[ifr0g] what is a chainloader ?11:15
[ifr0g] Sorry.. i googled and i dont get a proper desc.11:15
Biovoregot to the start of the disk and execute11:15
klobsterbiovore Dragnslcr so no clue, then?11:15
x_linkBiovore: I don't find anyting on that site =/11:15
[ifr0g] sorry ?11:16
[ifr0g] GOT ?11:16
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Biovorex_link: there is a link for the win32 codec pack under the download section..11:16
x_linkok11:16
Biovorex_link: download it and extract to /usr/lib/win32/11:16
[ifr0g] it goes to that start of the disk.?11:16
[ifr0g] chainloader +1 ??11:17
x_linkBiovore: But exactly which codec should I get?11:17
Biovoreyup.. first part of the partition..11:17
Biovore(err the MBR)11:17
Biovorex_link: the tarball has 30 of them in it..11:17
[ifr0g] if i want to go to the 3rd part ?11:17
x_linkBiovore: ok11:17
x_linkBiovore: Just any under "Binary Codec Packages" right?11:18
Biovore[ifr0g] : well normaly we use grub to boot chainload +1 on a partition..11:18
Biovorex_link: yup11:18
x_linkok11:18
jacobanyone here use teamspeak11:18
x_linkI guess I should create /var/lib/win32 on my own?11:18
Biovorex_link: /usr/lib/win32   yes.. use sudo..11:19
[ifr0g] Biovore, ah ok, and +1 indicate ??11:19
x_linkok11:19
Biovorethere are instructions..11:19
ardchoillex_link: Are installing win32codecs ?11:19
x_linkNDPTAL85: sudo mkdir /usr/lib/win3211:19
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x_linkardchoille: Yes11:19
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x_linkI remember that I could do "sudo aptitude install w32codecs" in debian.11:19
ardchoillex_link: you can get them from the repos and you won't have to do it manually11:19
ardchoille!win32codecs11:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about win32codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:20
ardchoille!win3211:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about win32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:20
ardchoillebah!11:20
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ardchoille!seveas11:20
Biovore[ifr0g] : http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#chainloader11:20
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ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages11:20
x_linkardchoille: I tried with sudo aptitude install w32codecs, but don't find anything.11:20
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ardchoillex_link: see the seveas repo that ubotu posted for win32codecs11:20
ardchoillex_link: you have to add the repo first11:20
x_linkWhich one?11:20
ardchoille!seveas | x_link11:21
ubotux_link: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages11:21
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x_linkardchoille: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages11:21
x_linkShould I add that repo?11:21
ardchoillex_link: read tha tpage and add the repo11:21
x_linkok11:21
x_linkdeb http://mirror3.ubuntu.com/ feisty-seveas extras freenx11:22
x_linkdeb-src http://mirror3.ubuntu.com/ feisty-seveas extras freenx11:22
x_linkI should add that then11:22
ardchoillex_link: If you do things correctly, rarely will you have to do much manually11:22
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x_linkardchoille: That's the right repos, right?11:22
[ifr0g] Biovore, thanks..11:22
evjunior09Anyone good with Limewire?? I have a problem11:23
ardchoillex_link: You're going to have to read that page, there are several sections for the repo.11:23
x_linkok11:23
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x_linkBiovore: But should I move the .zip file to /var/lib/win32 and extract it there then it's okej?11:24
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ardchoillex_link: If you do it manually, you may run into dependency problems, this is why we use package managers.11:24
x_linkhmm ok11:24
x_linkBut I'm not that good ont his.11:24
x_linkI don't get it. I will leave this alone.11:25
x_linkbrb11:25
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ardchoillex_link: The wiki docs are designed well, easy to follow. The reason I won't spoon feed you is because that would teach you nothing. If you learn nothing, then you won't know how to fix a potential problem later.11:25
evjunior09Can Amarok Play WMA files?11:25
x_linkardchoille: But I don't understand it.11:26
x_linkI found the repo.11:26
ardchoillex_link: Which part do you not understand?11:26
x_linkdeb url-of-repository release-to-use components-to-use11:26
x_linkdeb url-of-repository release-to-use components-to-use11:26
x_linkBut then it says that I should change the url-of-repositories11:26
x_linkerr11:27
x_linkThat was not the repo I just showed, sorry.11:27
x_linkdeb http://mirror3.ubuntu.com/ feisty-seveas extras freenx11:27
x_linkdeb-src http://mirror3.ubuntu.com/ feisty-seveas extras freenx11:27
x_linkThat is.11:27
ardchoilleThat is for freenx stuff, not w32codecs11:27
x_linkok11:27
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x_linkI'm reading on the link you just gave me.11:28
jacobdoes anyone have any experience with WINE and could help me?11:28
ardchoillex_link: this example  deb http://mirror3.ubuntu.com/ feisty-seveas extras freenx  has the repos for the "extras" and the "freenx" items. See the sections above the example on that page?11:29
BluesKajevjunior09: i'm quite sure amarok can play windows media audio11:29
Biovoredepends if it has DRM on it.. linux can't handle the DRM11:29
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rayluhow do i set the resolution of my ttys?11:30
evjunior09Blueskaj: well when i tried it said unable to play file11:30
evjunior09but my mp3's worked11:30
BluesKajwho records im wma these days11:30
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evjunior09blueskaj: yeah i have no idea11:31
evjunior09i hate wma11:31
ardchoilleevjunior09: The mp3's likely weren't DRM, and the wma was?11:31
BluesKajevjunior09:  a hint ..convert your wma files to mp3 or ogg or whatever you want with soundKonverter11:31
ardchoilleBluesKaj: My question is who in their right mind would record/encode in a proprietary format.11:31
twosouls82soundKonverter is a killer app11:31
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Biovoreardchoille: I don't know.. but I see alot of wma wmv stuff out there..11:32
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BluesKajrhetorical question no doubt ardchoille ...i can't understand anyone doing it either :)11:33
ardchoille:)11:33
rayluso...set tty resolution? anyone?11:33
evjunior09What would SoundKonverter be under? i installed it with the command line11:33
evjunior09never mind11:33
evjunior09got it11:33
BluesKajmultimedia11:33
vzduchas to WMA.. I have a similar problem, Audacious being unable to play a WMA webradio stream, even though the WMA plugin is installed & active11:33
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vzduchit plays fine w/ VLC though11:33
ardchoilleraylu: I added a code to the end of my kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst. the code I added was:  vga=79111:34
ardchoilleiirc, that is for 1024x768 for my tty's11:34
Biovorevzduch: amarok uses xine as the backend.. so if xine can play it.. then aramok can..11:34
BluesKajtry amarok , vzduch...it will play wm streams11:34
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vzduchI don't use Amarok as long as it doesn't do proper gapless play :)11:35
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evjunior09how come my .wma file wont show up on konverter? i click add file and nothing happens11:35
vzduchgonna try again when 1.5.0 (or was it 2.0?) comes out11:36
klobster!runlevel11:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:36
vzduchfor Audacious I have the wonderful xmms-crossfade plugin that does gapless play absolutely nicely :)11:36
klobsterthat debian bot was very helpfull11:37
ardchoilleklobster: lol11:37
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raylu\=11:37
vzduchklobster: only it probably won't help you very much as *buntu runlevels are configured differently from most other Linuxen11:37
klobstervzduch: same as debian, no?11:38
Biovoreyup11:38
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klobster /etc/rcX.d right?11:38
BiovoreI think everything is in runlevel 211:38
vzduchklobster: to my knowledge, Debian runlevels are configured the traditional way, whereas in *buntu multi-user level w/ X autostart is already in runlevel 211:38
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klobsterdebian runlevels are the same as that.11:40
yiannis852hi all!11:40
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vzduchklobster: really?  last time I used a nearer Debian derivate than *buntu (Kanotix (Debian-testing/-sid)) it was the traditional way, i.e. rl 2 == multiuser w/o X, rl 3 == multiuser w/ manual X start, rl 5 == multiuser w/ automatic X start11:42
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raylui never got these seemingly-random runlevel assignments11:43
klobstervzduch: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/21211:43
BiovoreI think 2-5 are all the same thing on ubuntu and debian11:43
rayluwhat about 4? why doesn't ubuntu just make the current 6 3 instead?11:43
rayluthey are11:43
Biovorethere just "run levels"  You can make them anyrthing you want..11:44
raylui can't think of a use for 311:44
raylulet alone 4 and 511:44
ekrengeli keep seeing these when i run apt-get update11:44
ekrengelIgn http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/multiverse Translation-en_US11:44
ekrengelall with the Translation-en_US at the end11:45
ekrengelthat are Ign11:45
ekrengelanyone know how to stop those?11:45
vzduchraylu: as I said, traditional division of runlevels: 0 == shutdown, 1 == single-user, text mode, 2 == multi-user, text mode, 3 == multi-user, text mode w/ optional X server, 4 == user-defined, 5 == multi-user, graphical mode (X autostart), 6 == reboot11:46
Biovore^ that redhat and suse11:46
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level1the 64 bit install cd is compatible with intel 64 bit right?11:48
level164-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD:  Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon). If you have a non-64-bit processor made by AMD, or if you need full support for 32-bit code, use the Intel x86 images instead.11:49
rayluvzduch, oh, i see11:49
level1I think thats a little confusing and misleading11:49
rayluwhy doesn't ubuntu use that and11:49
rayluhow do i set my tty resolution?11:49
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raylulevel1, i've never seen 64 with "intel" next to it. it's always "64" or "amd6411:50
raylu"11:50
level1raylu: lol, I know why that is, but to new and unsophisticated users that don't like to take chances, thats the most confusing thing ever11:51
level1raylu: I think it should say "64 bit installer: choose this is you have a 64 bit intel or amd cpu.  Choose 32 bit if you are unsure."11:51
rayluhrm =\11:52
level1no need to confuse people11:52
raylui think any alternative would be misleading in any other way11:52
raylu*in another way11:52
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level1since I have a 64 bit cpu now, I should go ahead and get a 64 OS, right?  theres no real reason to stick with 32 bit, right?11:54
vzduch[23:51:48]  <@le-helper> [Distrowatch]  Distribution Release: Ubuntu Christian Edition 3.311:54
Ace2016omg11:54
Ace2016why is there a Ubuntu Christian Edition???11:55
vzduchlevel1: well, there is, if you want to use proprietary software, like e.g. gfx drivers or Flash11:55
level1bring Christians to linux not linux users to Christianity, right11:55
BiovoreAce2016: because someone made one..11:55
vzduchAce2016: don't ask me, it's there ;)11:55
level1vzduch: what about the nvidia drivers?11:55
vzduchlevel1: 32-bit only11:55
Ace2016nvidia drivers are great :)11:56
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Biovorevzduch: The other thing that makes runlevels a mute point on ubuntu is that fact feisty dosn't uses init.11:56
Ace2016doesn't it?11:56
vzduchBiovore: indeed11:56
ardchoilles/mute/moot/11:56
Ace2016but i run /etc/init.d/kdm restart   <<< thats init right???11:56
level1Ace2016: not so great if they force me to stay with 32 bit... thats annoying11:56
ekrengelI've gotten rid of the "Ign" from apt get with this command11:56
ekrengelunset LANG LANGUAGE11:56
ekrengelbut it resets itself everytime i open up a new terminal11:57
BiovoreAce2016: no.. thats a script that can start/stop/restart kdm11:57
klobsterAce2016: that is just a script11:57
klobsternvm11:57
Ace2016level1: the boost in speed that the nvidia driver gives over nv is greater than the one you get from running 64bit11:57
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Biovoresee: startup.ubuntu.com for the init replacement11:57
klobsterbut kubuntu DOES use rc?.d and that is runlevels11:57
Ace2016but isn't that script the one that is run on startup???11:58
jacobokay, installed warcraft and the frozen throne with wine, what would be the command to open frozen throne.exe with wine in opengl?11:58
ekrengelmaybe i'll just put that in .bashrc and see if that works11:58
level1Ace2016: perhaps, that doesn't change the fact that I could be running nvidia drivers *and* 64 bit apps if they just took the time to recompile it11:58
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ekrengelyup that works11:59
ekrengel: P11:59
Ace2016wait a sec11:59
level1vzduch: if nvidia doesn't have 64 bit drivers, why does this page exsist? http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_100.14.11.html12:00
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jtonghi all12:00
Ace2016level1: they do have a 64bit driver, did you even check their web site?12:00
Ace2016http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_100.14.06.html12:00
WhtWolfTeraDynehi12:00
Ace2016thats the beta one for all the latest cards, i'm using the 32bit one now ;)12:00
level1Ace2016: vzduch said they didn't...12:01
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vzduchmight be that it's just the newest driver they have a 64bit variant of12:01
Ace2016maybe ubuntu doesn't have it because its beta12:01
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vzduchbut to my knowledge the versions that are in the repos are 32-bit only12:01
Ace2016http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html12:02
Ace2016there are all the drivers12:02
Ace2016and you want the amd64 one right?12:02
Ace2016whats IA64? is it different from amd64?12:03
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adeniciocan wine install .exe games an programmes?12:03
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level1adenicio: why not?12:04
level1adenicio: with wine, the philosophy is "try it and see"12:04
adeniciolevel1: ok i dont have dsl so it taking a while to download12:05
level1Ace2016: I'd like to know what the difference is too.  As far as I can tell, they are binary compatable, so theres no real difference12:05
Ace2016found it:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EM64T#Intel_6412:05
adeniciodo anyone know glovepie for the wiimote?does it work on linux?the bleuthoot feity 7.04 does not detect my wiimote12:06
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jacobhey guys12:07
jacobhow would i open frozen throne.exe with WINE in opengl12:07
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level1jacob: well, usually, you get a command line, cd to the directory, and type "wine <program name>"12:08
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jacobokay typed "wine frozen throne.exe" and nothing happened12:09
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ardchoillejacob: Try:  wine frozen\ throne.exe12:10
jacobwine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\frozen throne.exe": Module not found12:10
jacobbecause i installed to a different location12:10
jacobmy home folder12:10
jacobso what would i do now12:11
ardchoillejacob: I have no idea, I have never used wine. I just saw you had a space in the filename and you need to escape spaces in Linux12:11
vzduchjacob: try the 'Windows' path12:11
jacobeh?12:11
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jacobits not in the windows path12:12
jacobits at...12:12
jacob_i need somebody's help12:12
jacob_this morning, i was able to install mplayer to watch quicktime movies12:12
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vzduchjacob: 'C:\\Program\ Files\\$subfolderName\\frozen\ throne.exe'12:12
jacobso12:13
jacobtype win and that?12:13
jacob_but i did not know that it also plays realplayer12:13
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jacob_now i go to the nova pbs site and i'm no longer able to view videos in realplayer12:13
jacob_which it used to work when i had realplayer without mplayer12:14
Biovorejacob_: do you have the realvideo stuff install for mplayer?12:14
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