[12:36] <Daisuke_Ido> trying to decide what's a better idea: a 17" widescreen 1680x1050 or a 17" widescreen 1920x1200
[12:36] <Daisuke_Ido> anyone with experience have any advice, especially when it comes to kubuntu (as that will be the primary OS)
[12:37] <crimsun> depends on your usage patterns
[12:37] <Daisuke_Ido> i would imagine that everything on the 1920 would be extremely small >_>
[12:38] <crimsun> can you "test-drive" at a local store?
[12:38] <Daisuke_Ido> won't be exactly the same (i'm comparing similarly equipped notebooks from two different manufacturers)
[12:38] <Daisuke_Ido> but i should be able to
[12:39] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm thinking the 1680 would be more than enough for what i do.  not really a gamer, and while i watch quite a bit of video, i don't watch anything extremely high resolution
[12:39] <adenicio> crimsun: how to add adres to reposatory?
[12:49] <twylight> need help fast
[12:49] <twylight> tried to install a package
[12:49] <twylight> it broke apt-get
[12:49] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> twylight: were you using adept?
[12:50] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !aptfix
[12:50] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[12:50] <twylight> apt-get refuses to do anything until the package is reinstalled
[12:50] <twylight> but the package doesn't exist
[12:50] <twylight> no
[12:50] <twylight> I downloaded a .deb file
[12:50] <twylight> kubuntu package manager -> install package
[12:51] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> did you try the advice i had ubotu put up?
[12:52] <twylight> one second
[12:55] <Daisuke_Ido> dpkg --configure -a
[12:55] <Daisuke_Ido> such a simple thing, but it solves oh so many problems :D
[12:56] <twylight> tried that
[12:56] <twylight> didn't work
[12:58] <Daisuke_Ido> was this a .deb designed for ubuntu, or for debian?
[12:59] <twylight> probably debian
[01:00] <twylight> I got it at getdeb.net
[01:00] <twylight> but it said compatible with ubuntu feisty 32 bit
[01:00] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> What app or whatever was it?
[01:01] <twylight> secondlife-install
[01:13] <[ifr0g] > hi, how do i bring up eth0 everytime i connect ?
[01:13] <[ifr0g] > automatically ..
[01:14] <LeeJunFan> [ifr0g] : you need to add it to /etc/network/interfaces
[01:14] <LeeJunFan> man interfaces
[01:14] <[ifr0g] > LeeJunFan, well, i did that..
[01:14] <[ifr0g] > LeeJunFan, sorry actually its wlan0
[01:15] <[ifr0g] > And i did use static .. config
[01:15] <[ifr0g] > in there.
[01:16] <LeeJunFan> did you add the auto eth0 line?
[01:16] <[ifr0g] > checking..
[01:17] <twylight> so I guess my problem is unsolvable?
[01:17] <[ifr0g] > yes, i did..just above the iface wlan0 inet static line..
[01:17] <LeeJunFan> [ifr0g] : wlan0 or eth0?
[01:18] <[ifr0g] > wlan0
[01:18] <LeeJunFan> [ifr0g] : your orig question was about eth0. Is eth0 what you wanted to auto start?
[01:19] <[ifr0g] > Well i said above.. LeeJunFan, sorry actually its wlan0
[01:19] <LeeJunFan> okay, wireless may be different because we'll have to make it join the right network.
[01:19] <Sheazsche> retarded kubuntu is not letting me access my ntfs usb drive
[01:20] <Sheazsche> permission denied, wtf
[01:20] <twylight> <.<
[01:20] <twylight> >.>
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[01:20] <twylight> >.<
[01:20] <[ifr0g] > LeeJunFan, Well, i put it on ad-hoc mode, and in edgy it comes up auto ..
[01:20] <twylight> so apt-get is still broken
[01:20] <LeeJunFan> [ifr0g] : normally with kubuntu it should join automatically when it's in range of a wireless network it's been configured for with knetworkmanager.
[01:20] <LeeJunFan> ah edgy, nevermind.
[01:21] <LeeJunFan> knetworkmanager wasn't in edgy I think.
[01:21] <[ifr0g] > LeeJunFan, huh, i removed knetworkmanager..
[01:21] <[ifr0g] > I did an upgrade 2 days back
[01:21] <zeeleck> Alguin habla Espaol xD?
[01:22] <LeeJunFan> [ifr0g] : okay. hrm. well as long as it's not WPA encrypted it should be straightforward.
[01:22] <[ifr0g] > LeeJunFan,  its not..
[01:22] <zeeleck> exit
[01:22] <zeeleck> xDDDD
[01:22] <[ifr0g] > LeeJunFan, what is the if-up.d for ?
[01:22] <LeeJunFan> [ifr0g] : you can pass info for the wireless like wep in the interfaces file by prefixing wireless- to it.
[01:22] <redshadowhero> how do I enable mp3 encoding/ripping for K3b?
[01:22] <LeeJunFan> [ifr0g] : like wireless-essid [your network name] 
[01:22] <LeeJunFan> [ifr0g] : wireless-enc [your wep key] 
[01:22] <[ifr0g] > LeeJunFan, done that.
[01:23] <LeeJunFan> !restricted | redshadowhero
[01:23] <ubotu> redshadowhero: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:24] <LeeJunFan> [ifr0g] : I guess I'd check to see if it's doing anything that's in your interfaces file at all. eg. after rebooting use iwconfig to see if it configed the right network settings, ifconfig to see if it set the IP but didn't up the device, etc...
[01:27] <jchonig> Good day.
[01:27] <redshadowhero> LeeJunFan: I installed that package, but I can't seem to figure out how to rip them from a CD in K3b
[01:27] <[ifr0g] > LeeJunFan, yes, it does config it right, but doest up it..
[01:27] <[ifr0g] > i have to do it manually every time.
[01:28] <jchonig> Anyone know how to get files in .kde/Autostart to be run on the second display (i.e. multi-monitor but not Xinerama)?
[01:31] <LeeJunFan> sry redshadowhero it's been ages since I've done it myself.
[01:31] <LeeJunFan> [ifr0g] : can you pastebin your interfaces file?
[01:32] <redshadowhero> LeeJunFan: actually, it failed because lame wasn't installed; so I used "sudo apt-get install lame"
[01:32] <redshadowhero> LeeJunFan: I think that might work.
[01:32] <[ifr0g] > LeeJunFan, ok, a little  more info first.. just a sec
[01:35] <[ifr0g] > LeeJunFan, i am using ndiswrapper on w wifidougle.. the device is workes  great.  But lately i have to reconfigure everytime i boot..Now for the pastebin..just a sec
[01:36] <LeeJunFan> jchonig: does it use a different display #? like :1 or something?
[01:36] <LeeJunFan> jchonig: if so - some applications will allow you to pass a display # try [appname]  --help, or you'd have to write a small script to change the DISPLAY env variable then run those apps.
[01:37] <[ifr0g] > LeeJunFan, here... http://pastebin.ca/637542
[01:37] <rubicon> got it
[01:38] <rubicon> it was the BIOS that messed my 3D Acceleration up
[01:38] <[ifr0g] > LeeJunFan, i did notice iwconfig showing the settings right.. but not ifconfig.
[01:38] <rubicon> *boom chicka wah wah*
[01:38] <rubicon> 'night :-)
[01:38] <[ifr0g] > rubicon, how come ??
[01:38] <[ifr0g] > opps.
[01:41] <LeeJunFan> [ifr0g] : everything looks fine there, I wonder if it's something to do with the device not being ready in time after ndiswrapper loads it? I've never worked with ndiswrapper before. If you can manually config the network up after the machine boots w/o a problem it sounds like there's something it needs for that device that's starting AFTER networking.
[01:42] <LeeJunFan> [ifr0g] : you might try adding a line 'post-up ifconfig wlan0 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up' which would manually run the ifconfig commands to ifup the interface.
[01:43] <[ifr0g] > LeeJunFan, I though there would be  another config file to bring up the interface everytime i sees a device eg:- wlan0.. being created.
[01:43] <dingus9> hey ok just encounterd an odd problem
[01:43] <LeeJunFan> normally post-up would of course be run after the device is up, but maybe (just maybe) if it's not starting correctly during networking startup, it'll start then.
[01:43] <LeeJunFan> [ifr0g] : no, you must be used to redhat/mandrake?
[01:44] <[ifr0g] > LeeJunFan, huh, i did use mandriva long time back.. :)
[01:44] <[ifr0g] > i will try that line.
[01:44] <dingus9> machine boots, but cannot mount the hda1, I used a live cd, fsck.ext3'd the partition, and I was able to mount it fine. its reading the kernel, and the kernel is specifying /dev/hda1 for the root
[01:44] <LeeJunFan> [ifr0g] : mandrake/mandriva - same thing. :) Mandriva uses a different network config which has different files for each device.
[01:44] <dingus9> still wont mount my root fs
[01:44] <[ifr0g] > yeah ..
[01:45] <LeeJunFan> dingus9: you have root=/dev/hda1 in your loader config? or is it one of those long ID lines?
[01:48] <vbgunz> Anybody have steam running through Wine here? would you know why the game is jittering? not horrible but jittering, jumpy... playable but jittery?
[01:50] <LeeJunFan> vbgunz: I forget the command but there's a commandline thing you want to pass to the steam executable to get it to use direct X 8 I think - which is more compatible.
[01:50] <LeeJunFan> I imagine in #wine someone would know right off the bat.
[01:51] <LeeJunFan> sry #winehq
[01:51] <vbgunz> LeeJunFan: thank you, will check there also
[01:52] <elite101> ##windows (dont mind me at all)
[01:52] <elite101> hey
[01:52] <dingus9> LeeJunFan: well I just tried changing it to sda1, since it seems the new install uses a sda for my ide disk(also changed fstab), just got waiting for filesystem.... so basically the fs is not being connected on any of the kernels defined in menu.lst
[01:55] <dingus9> LeeJunFan: I am rechecking the fs something must be wrong with it
[01:59] <LeeJunFan> !libata | dingus9
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:59] <LeeJunFan> !libide
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <LeeJunFan> wth, hehe. Brain fart.
[02:00] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !info libata
[02:00] <ubotu> Package libata does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:00] <LeeJunFan> !uuid
[02:00] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[02:02] <Roey> hi all
[02:02] <Roey> Biovore, WhtWolfTeraDyne :  How is this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=512077
[02:03] <Roey> Can anyone help me with these problems:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=512077
[02:03] <boris__> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[02:03] <boris__> me too
[02:03] <boris__> liz
[02:03] <affan> hi all. I installed beryl-manager but whenever i run it I lose the title-bar for all windows. Do you know how to fix it? thanks!
[02:03] <LeeJunFan> holy crap - overload :)
[02:03] <Roey> LeeJunFan:  where?
[02:04] <LeeJunFan> Roey: the list of problems you have. hehe
[02:04] <affan> !beryl
[02:04] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:04] <boris__> goods know
[02:05] <astaroth> hi everybody
[02:05] <boris__> hi
[02:05] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Roey: You gave plenty of info as far as I can tell. Hopefully someone will be able to help there.
[02:05] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hi
[02:05] <Biovore> http://blog.blackdown.de/2005/04/03/logitech-mx1000-configuration/ <-- MX1000 mouse config.. Works for me..
[02:05] <Biovore> !worksforme
[02:05] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[02:05] <boris__> me as well
[02:05] <boris__> :)
[02:05] <boris__> one day
[02:05] <boris__> :)
[02:06] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> boris__: what's the problem?
[02:06] <boris__> well
[02:06] <boris__> when i tray to stest
[02:07] <boris__> it throws
[02:07] <boris__> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[02:07] <boris__> what is thet
[02:07] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> tray to stest?
[02:07] <boris__> i can get the simulator
[02:07] <boris__> stage
[02:07] <boris__> stest simple.world robot
[02:08] <boris__> do you know for player stage
[02:08] <boris__> robot sinulator
[02:08] <boris__> simulator
[02:08] <boris__> http://playerstage.sourceforge.net/
[02:09] <boris__>  [Loading simple.world] err: unable to open world file simple.world : No such file or directory (worldfile.cc Load)
[02:09] <boris__> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[02:09] <boris__> wht is thet segmentation fault
[02:10] <Biovore> program is accessing memory its shouldn't
[02:10] <boris__> no medicin for it
[02:10] <boris__> ;(
[02:11] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Might want to post about it on their bug tracker.
[02:11] <Biovore> Its my guess its probably doing it because it running delete on a null pointer
[02:11] <Biovore> because it didn't configure correctly
[02:11] <boris__> complicate
[02:11] <boris__> to do all
[02:12] <boris__> again
[02:12] <Roey> LeeJunFan:  somehow it affects only me.
[02:12] <Roey> WhtWolfTeraDyne:  thanks
[02:12] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Roey: for what?
[02:12] <astaroth> I have a trouble with my wireless card. (its a broadcom 1390).. I had install the firmware, and now the system is blocked and show me "bcm43xx: MAC suspend failed"... I already search on internet, but there's no solutions, any sugestion?
[02:12] <Roey> WhtWolfTeraDyne:  like, I hope  it didn't come off as just some uninformed rant
[02:12] <srbaker_> folks
[02:12] <srbaker_> i'm looking for a way to remap capslock to ctrl on kubuntu
[02:12] <srbaker_> anyone know?
[02:12] <Roey> WhtWolfTeraDyne:  for your assessment of my plea for help with my system.
[02:13] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Roey: Ah. No problem.
[02:13] <crimsun> srbaker_: use the keyboard widget in System Settings
[02:13] <boris__> i will never diplomate
[02:13] <NickPresta> srbaker_, vim user?
[02:13] <boris__> with does problems
[02:14] <boris__> student forewer
[02:14] <boris__> :)
[02:14] <srbaker_> crimsun: oh
[02:14] <srbaker_> NickPresta: no.  just want ctrl to be in the right place
[02:15] <bharath> i have a question regarding guarddog
[02:16] <bharath> once i setup the firewall as i would like, the settings behave like they should
[02:16] <bharath> but when i restart the machine, they revert back to normal
[02:16] <bharath> what could be wrong?
[02:16] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Cool. New issue of Full Circle Magazine is released.
[02:17] <bharath> i thought when I 'Apply' in guarddog, the firewal settings are permanently changed in the system
[02:18] <srbaker_> yo
[02:18] <srbaker_> i can *see* the X Modifier Mapping in the keyboard/mouse window
[02:18] <srbaker_> but i can't seem to add capslock to control
[02:19] <bharath> can someone help me figure out the guarddog issue?
[02:19] <boris__>  <WhtWolfTeraDyne> on internet
[02:19] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> boris__: WhaT?
[02:20] <boris__> magazine
[02:20] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> boris__: yeah. here's the link to their site: http://fullcirclemagazine.org/
[02:20] <boris__> i will see
[02:21] <srbaker_> damnit
[02:21] <srbaker_> it's listing them but won't let me change :(
[02:27] <underdog5004> so...
[02:30] <twylight> apt-get refuses to do anything until the package is reinstalled
[02:34] <Roey> crimsun:  that worked, thanks :)
[02:34] <Roey> jesus you know your stuff :)
[02:35] <Roey> ok, next question:
[02:35] <Roey> why does my mouse wheel not scroll vertically?
[02:35] <Roey> I have an mx1000 mouse.
[02:37] <crimsun> likely needs [ZY] AxisMapping directive[s] 
[02:37] <crimsun> I'm fairly useless for X Window System configs, though.
[02:38] <Roey> heh
[02:38] <Roey> I have my .xmodmap that's worked for me so far.
[02:38] <Roey> except that now it's all changed for some reason.
[02:39] <Roey> (the conditions, not the file itself)
[02:39] <NickPresta> Out of curiosity, does anyone have an iRiver Clix 2 audio player? If so, how does it work with Kubuntu?
[02:39] <mm_202> Is there a way to have different taskbar items for different Desktops?
[02:40] <NickPresta> mm_202, do you mean show the applications open on that desktop on that taskbar or do you mean like different icons and such per taskbar?
[02:41] <mm_202> different icons, eg:  I want a regular clock on my first desktop and a binary one on my second desktop.
[02:41] <mm_202> technically different applets.
[02:42] <NickPresta> mm_202, I don't know of an immediate solution. If no one answers you here, try ubuntuforums
[02:43] <mm_202> ok, ty.
[02:49] <bharath> can someone tell me why i have to click 'Apply' in guarddog each time I restart the system?
[02:50] <bharath> i though guarddog changes the firewall settings permanently
[02:58] <bharath> hello?
[02:59] <rustalot> wouldh it be possible to get a USB punchcard reader? does that exist?
[03:01] <yurimxpxman> is there a key combo to immediately kill an application?
[03:03] <green> help?
[03:07] <Roey> crimsun:  thanks again Daniel
[03:07] <crimsun> np.
[03:07] <Roey> crimsun:  I'll be back around Midnight probably
[03:07] <Roey> see ya!
[03:07] <crimsun> I won't, I'm in the District.
[03:17] <luca> hi everyone
[03:17] <luca> I need help - I just did something foolish
[03:18] <luca> I deleted - not trashed but deleted - a folder with valuable data
[03:18] <luca> i need to recover the contents
[03:18] <luca> can someone help me?
[03:18] <yurimxpxman> luca: testdisk
[03:19] <attunix> is konqueror no longer gonna be the file manager in kde 4?
[03:19] <luca> thanks
[03:19] <luca> attunix: no, dolphin will substitute it
[03:20] <yurimxpxman> attunix: it will still be there
[03:21] <green> i just need a little help?
[03:21] <green> wireless usb network adapter can i get it to work?
[03:21] <Biovore> kde4 has a new filemanger call dolfin
[03:21] <luca> yurimxpxman: will testdisk recover the lost folder?
[03:22] <luca> I am running it now
[03:22] <yurimxpxman> luca: usually
[03:22] <jchonig> LeeJunFan: When I was running KDE on Fedora, it would run items in AutoStart on second display (:1), but on kubuntu fiesty it no longer does
[03:22] <luca> ok can you guide me please?
[03:22] <bcu1> Realistically it seems like if konqueror was removed, probably most KDE users would stop using it.
[03:22] <luca> I am running it on the partition in which I know the folder was
[03:23] <luca> it analysed it and spit out five partition names...I am not understanding very well why
[03:24] <luca> now what should I do to recover the folder I deleted?
[03:28] <attunix> how can i install the oxygen icons?
[03:28] <ardchoille> attunix: If it's an icon theme, you should be able to unpack it into /usr/share/icons and then coose them in the icon chooser
[03:28] <attunix> ok.
[03:29] <attunix> how do i download them?
[03:29] <ardchoille> You find a download link and download them :)
[03:29] <attunix> do u know what the oxygen icons are?
[03:30] <attunix> they're the ones used in Kde4
[03:30] <attunix> they're SOO cool! :D
[03:30] <attunix> o well
[03:30] <attunix> bye
[03:30] <ardchoille> attunix: If they're used in kde4, then I bet they are GPL, so you should be able to download them.
[03:35] <rustalot> what is this for (from nmap) "139/tcp  open  netbios-ssn"
[03:36] <Biovore> samba
[03:40] <angelburn> help?
[03:41] <wipas> enas
[03:41] <underdog5004> angelburn, what's the problem?
[03:41] <rustalot> why are ports 25/smtp and 631/ipp open on localhost but not on 192.168.1.175 (i.e. my dhcp address?)
[03:41] <angelburn> can i use a usb wireless network adapter>
[03:41] <angelburn> ?
[03:41] <angelburn> \i cant get it to work
[03:42] <underdog5004> rustalot, so that you can access email and whatever ipp is for from you local machine, but not from a remote machine
[03:42] <underdog5004> angelburn, what's the model number? Who makes it?
[03:42] <angelburn> its a linksys wusp11v4
[03:43] <underdog5004> angelburn, ok, open up a console, and type ifconfig -a
[03:43] <underdog5004> look for something that says ath0, ra0, or something like that
[03:44] <angelburn> o i im not running it right now i cant be online while running because the computer im on now doesnt have a nic... windows is the only thing i can get to work with it right now
[03:45] <angelburn> what should i do though ill log off and then follow any steps i can do
[03:45] <underdog5004> angelburn, ok, in that case I would search on google for modelnumber linux
[03:45] <underdog5004> obviously, replace modelnumber with the model number of the card
[03:46] <angelburn> o ok
[03:46] <angelburn> thanks
[03:46] <underdog5004> no problem
[03:46] <underdog5004> I'll be here for a couple of hours
[03:47] <angelburn> i found this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Linksys_WUSB11v4_%28ndiswrapper%29?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29 this is what im supposed to do?
[03:59] <Aleksandersen> Hi, can anyone please recommend a good IRC client other than Konversation? Simplicity is the key.
[04:00] <Biovore> Aleksandersen: XChat. kvirc (not really simple, but nice looking), bitchx (text mode), iriss
[04:00] <Biovore> gaim also has a irc interface built in..
[04:01] <Guilty_as_Sin> I need help with nvidia drivers on kubuntu FF
[04:01] <Aleksandersen> I have tried kvirc, but did not like it. XChat kept stealing focus... Text mode is not the right thing for me either. I will try gaim and iriss.
[04:02] <Guilty_as_Sin> I know that the proprietary drivers are shipped on ubuntu or were being shipped that way..  but why not kubuntu?
[04:03] <Guilty_as_Sin> is anyone here?  lol
[04:03] <RadiantFire> i am
[04:03] <Guilty_as_Sin> you know anything about graphic card drivers?
[04:04] <RadiantFire> Guilty_as_Sin: install nvidia-glx and then run in terminal sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[04:04] <Guilty_as_Sin> thanks
[04:04] <Guilty_as_Sin> I knew it had gotten easier.. just wanted to check in first
[04:04] <RadiantFire> then restart
[04:04] <Guilty_as_Sin> the last time I messed with nvidia drivers I just used envy
[04:05] <Guilty_as_Sin> heared someone say not to use that a few weeks back so I didn't
[04:05] <Guilty_as_Sin> anyways, thanks for the help..
[04:07] <arsenique> i need some help configuring a new connection for Konversation, someone can help me?
[04:07] <Guilty_as_Sin> nvidia-glx new is installed already is that normal?
[04:07] <Guilty_as_Sin> the "new" one is the correct one right?
[04:08] <hitmanWilly> Guilty_as_Sin: are you running any third party scripts like automatix?
[04:08] <hitmanWilly> Guilty_as_Sin: the version depends on the card
[04:08] <Guilty_as_Sin> nope
[04:09] <Guilty_as_Sin> I may have done this a few weeks back and forgot.. just can't seem to get 3d games working today is all..
[04:09] <Guilty_as_Sin> let me check something here.. brb
[04:09] <hitmanWilly> Guilty_as_Sin: what video card do you have?
[04:10] <Guilty_as_Sin> geforce 6200
[04:10] <Guilty_as_Sin> nvidia
[04:10] <Guilty_as_Sin> one sec.. gonna restart x..  brb
[04:14] <Silent_G> hello, how can i check how much free space i have in my linux partition where kubuntu is installed?
[04:14] <Biovore> Silent_G: df -h
[04:14] <Silent_G> GUI Biovore
[04:15] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> *thud* Ok, which driver do I need to install for 3D support for the Nvidia 8300GS? I checked the link ubotu provides, but didn't find the answer.
[04:15] <Biovore> Silent_G: no clue here.. I always use the cli for stuff like that..
[04:15] <hitmanWilly> WhtWolfTeraDyne: nvidia-glx-new
[04:15] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hitmanWilly: Thank you.
[04:16] <hitmanWilly> WhtWolfTeraDyne: 8000 series needs the -new version
[04:16] <scott__> I keep getting "The following packages have unmet dependencies:" when trying to install certains apps like bluefish and azureus, how can I fix this?
[04:16] <hitmanWilly> scott__: is your system up to date?
[04:17] <scott__> yes i updated it fully today
[04:17] <scott__> just installed it today
[04:17] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hitmanWilly: Thanks. That's part two of getting my new dellbuntu desktop ready for gaming.
[04:17] <hitmanWilly> :)
[04:17] <hitmanWilly> WhtWolfTeraDyne: see you on UT04 later :)
[04:18] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hitmanWilly: Probably not. Not until I install it, anyway. XD
[04:18] <scott__> anything i can do for my problem?
[04:18] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Time to restart X. Wish me luck.
[04:18] <hitmanWilly> scott__: ok, try to sudo apt-get install bluefish, then pastebin the output please
[04:18] <KevinBristol> could anyone help me with my sound problem?
[04:19] <hitmanWilly> !paste | scott__
[04:19] <Guilty_as_Sin> yay! that worked
[04:19] <ubotu> scott__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:19] <Guilty_as_Sin> I got gears now
[04:19] <hitmanWilly> Guilty_as_Sin: driver downgrade?
[04:19] <Guilty_as_Sin> thanks whoever that was..  (sorry I forgot the name)
[04:19] <scott__> i have a topic here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=512153
[04:19] <scott__> with the output you want
[04:20] <Guilty_as_Sin> I had a panic attack there for a sec...   upon restarting x it went all black for a moment
[04:20] <hitmanWilly> scott__: what version are you running, and what arch ie amd64
[04:21] <Guilty_as_Sin> now..  off to see if the games actually work now..
[04:21] <scott__> im running the latest version, feisty my arch is...
[04:21] <scott__> 1386?
[04:21] <scott__> i386*
[04:22] <hitmanWilly> scott__: ok, try sudo apt-get -f install
[04:22] <jawee> on Kubuntu, how do I get back to the default system settings
[04:22] <jawee> I replaced it on KMenu with kcontrol
[04:22] <jawee> but kcontrol isn't working quite right now
[04:22] <scott__> should i post the output of that?
[04:23] <hitmanWilly> scott__: yes please
[04:23] <jawee> I just want to know the command
[04:23] <scott__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31741/
[04:24] <hitmanWilly> scott__: ok, try to install bluefish again
[04:24] <scott__> same error
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> hmmmm
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> scott__: ok, try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:26] <scott__> ok i ran it and there is no output
[04:27] <hitmanWilly> scott__: try installing again, probably won't, but try anyway
[04:27] <scott__> same error
[04:27] <hitmanWilly> scott__: when you updated, did it do a kernel update?
[04:28] <scott__> im not sure installed it today and it was the edgy version (old cd) so i followed a guide on the forum to upgrading to feisty
[04:29] <hitmanWilly> scott__: have you rebooted since then?
[04:29] <scott__> yes
[04:29] <H4xC0r> psyBNC@lam3rz.de
[04:30] <hitmanWilly> scott__: ok, sounds like a botched upgrade, you may want to try downloading the actual feisty iso image and installing from that
[04:31] <hitmanWilly> scott__: actually, try this first: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:32] <scott__> well it was installing stuff then it said this
[04:32] <scott__> init: timeout opening/writing control channel /dev/initctl
[04:33] <hitmanWilly> scott__: yup, sounds like a botched upgrade
[04:33] <scott__> is there an upgrade guide somewhere that you know works?
[04:34] <hitmanWilly> scott__: upgrades are iffy still, they work about 90% of the time, but there is that 10%
[04:34] <Guilty_as_Sin> can someone translate this?  For Linux: gunzip, chmod +x sauerbraten_unix and then ./sauerbraten_unix. Needs a decent and compliant OpenGL implementation
[04:34] <scott__> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/upgrade-ubuntu-610-edgy-eft-to-ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn-2.html i was using the second method on that site, so im not sure if there is an official guide or something
[04:34] <hitmanWilly> scott__: you're still probably better off installing a fresh install of feisty
[04:34] <Guilty_as_Sin> I know it's basics for most of you but still..  most everything I install is already in the repos
[04:35] <Guilty_as_Sin> I'm uber tard when it comes to installing outside of the repos
[04:35] <hitmanWilly> Guilty_as_Sin: unzip it, make the main program executable, then run it :)
[04:35] <Guilty_as_Sin> would like to finally get past this fear of tarz
[04:35] <Biovore> Guilty_as_Sin: that looks like its a stand alone binary..
[04:35] <BluesKaj> yup, i tried the amd64 gutsy...no joy for ati owners who 3D and DRI
[04:36] <hitmanWilly> Guilty_as_Sin: is it a .bz2 or .gz?
[04:36] <BluesKaj> who want 3D abd DRI
[04:36] <Guilty_as_Sin> I get the unzipping part.. and I know that chmod 777 or whatever makes it executable right?
[04:37] <Biovore> Guilty_as_Sin: basicly type those commands in to the konsole..  The first one unzips a .gz arg archive.. then you set the the file to be an executable and then you run it with the "./" thing.
[04:37] <hitmanWilly> Guilty_as_Sin: yes, but it makes it writeable by anyone as well
[04:37] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Well, that worked just as well as a Team Rocket plan...
[04:37] <hitmanWilly> Guilty_as_Sin: youre better off just adding the +x flag
[04:37] <Biovore> Guilty_as_Sin: it not guarentied to work though..
[04:37] <Guilty_as_Sin> bzip2ed
[04:38] <Biovore> Guilty_as_Sin: if the bin is compile for a different enviorment.. it will probably fail or act weird..
[04:38] <Guilty_as_Sin> well I just used ark to unzip
[04:38] <Guilty_as_Sin> it is now in my home directory
[04:38] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> It's giving me a "Failed to load module "wfb" (module does not exist, 0)
[04:38] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> And X won't start...
[04:38] <hitmanWilly> Guilty_as_Sin: ok, tar -jxvf <tarball_file> should do the trick
[04:39] <hitmanWilly> Guilty_as_Sin: as far as unzipping is concerned
[04:39] <Guilty_as_Sin> I must be a real nanner-head..  cuz that all escaped me..
[04:40] <Guilty_as_Sin> ok, from unzipping it to my home directory I do what?
[04:40] <Guilty_as_Sin> open terminal?
[04:40] <hitmanWilly> Guilty_as_Sin: yes
[04:40] <Guilty_as_Sin> done
[04:40] <angelburn> help again sorry...
[04:41] <hitmanWilly> Guilty_as_Sin: now cd to the dir where it unpacked to
[04:41] <Guilty_as_Sin> ok, 1 sec
[04:41] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Well, here's something interesting. That module doesn't exist in the xorg.conf file, either...
[04:41] <Guilty_as_Sin> there
[04:42] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> So... what is calling this "wfb" module that's stopping X...
[04:42] <Biovore> When i doubt, ask google :-P
[04:42] <hitmanWilly> Guilty_as_Sin: ok, chmod +x sauerbrauten_unix or whatever it was called
[04:43] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Biovore: No X, and no laptop right now. Time to install lynx...
[04:43] <Biovore> wfb is something I think that has to do with the nvidia driver for XORG..
[04:43] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Biovore: Yeah, I'm trying to get 3D working on my 8300GS in my dellbuntu system
[04:44] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hitmanWilly: I'm using irssi right now, so...
[04:44] <Guilty_as_Sin> that works great!
[04:44] <Guilty_as_Sin> thanks.. god I'm a doofus
[04:44] <angelburn> cant install ndiswrapper error 2?
[04:44] <Guilty_as_Sin> I see why you all were explaing it like that now..  it is "just that"
[04:44] <Guilty_as_Sin> with linux I always feel like there is a hidden step somewhere...
[04:45] <hitmanWilly> Guilty_as_Sin: just remember that unlike DOS, the current dir isn't in the path by default, so you need to use the ./
[04:45] <Biovore> WhtWolfTeraDyne: I think it might be a bad symlink..
[04:45] <Guilty_as_Sin> sorry about that hand holding experience
[04:45] <hitmanWilly> Guilty_as_Sin: you're in the right channel for it :)
[04:45] <Biovore> WhtWolfTeraDyne: check /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/
[04:45] <Biovore> should see a nvidia_
[04:45] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Biovore: ok, hold on.
[04:46] <Biovore> Biovore: should see a nvidia_drv.so
[04:46] <Biovore> and maybe a symlink nvidia-<verion numbers>_drv.so
[04:46] <Biovore> that points to nvidia_drv.so
[04:46] <Guilty_as_Sin> well I honestly can't thank you enough..   I enjoy playing that game quite a bit (at least the map-making side of it) but I didn't like having to deal with kuroo and all that emerge crap w/ Sabayon just for the one game
[04:47] <Guilty_as_Sin> I wanted it on my kubuntu machine, and I greatly appreciate it
[04:47] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Biovore: I see "nvidia_drv.so" there, but no symlink.
[04:47] <hitmanWilly> Guilty_as_Sin: well, im running gentoo, so i probably could have helped with that too :)
[04:47] <Biovore> WhtWolfTeraDyne: ok.. thats the same thing I got.. (my nvidia is working here)
[04:47] <Guilty_as_Sin> I was thinking about trying gentoo one day..  one day I have a lot of time on my hands that is
[04:48] <Guilty_as_Sin> I hear the install is atrocious
[04:48] <Biovore> WhtWolfTeraDyne: you have a 8800 nvidia card?
[04:48] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Biovore: nope. 8300GS
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> Guilty_as_Sin: yes, its kind of a pain to get set up, but once its going its beautiful
[04:48] <Biovore> hitmanWilly: oh.. you have nvidia-glx-new installed?
[04:49] <hitmanWilly> Biovore: yes, on my lappy...
[04:49] <Guilty_as_Sin> I'm too no0b-like to really venture outside the ubuntu realm too far...  but I like to give each distro a try from to time..  (linux took over my life)
[04:49] <Biovore> WhtWolfTeraDyne: <-- I ment him..)
[04:49] <hitmanWilly> Biovore: what do you need?
[04:49] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Biovore: Yes.
[04:49] <Biovore> hehe..
[04:49] <Guilty_as_Sin> I'm now infatuated with the free world
[04:49] <Guilty_as_Sin> nothing like people coming together..   now that is music
[04:50] <angelburn> could someone help me?
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> Guilty_as_Sin: first distro I really messed with a lot was slack
[04:50] <Guilty_as_Sin> I haven't really got to mess around with slack yet..
[04:51] <savetheWorld> !ask >angelburn
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> angelburn: what was the problem again?
[04:51] <magor999> does any one know ho to get ndisrwapper to work with d-link dwl g132?
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> heretic!! :P
[04:51] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hitmanWilly: Beat me too it...
[04:52] <angelburn> im supposed to use ndiswrapper to use my usb wireless networkadapter and i went through extracting it and when i went to make i got error 2
[04:52] <Guilty_as_Sin> Suse really made me crazy..
[04:52] <Guilty_as_Sin> guess my ethernet was not supported at the time..
[04:52] <hitmanWilly> angelburn: was all it said 'error 2?'
[04:52] <Guilty_as_Sin> eth0 was running but firefox wasn't browsing.. lol
[04:52] <magor999> angleburn: what wirlss adapter do u have?
[04:53] <angelburn> ok i have a linksys wusb11v4
[04:53] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Hmm... I found something about a possible missing sym link in the glx-new driver... Maybe I'll try it out.
[04:53] <runlevelten> That's what happens when you don't set up networking properly \o/
[04:53] <Guilty_as_Sin> I was letting dhcp decide..  set static.. put in my own dns..  nothing was working
[04:53] <magor999> i have dlink and i installed ndisrwapper and it still didnt detect it
[04:53] <Guilty_as_Sin> tried everything I could
[04:53] <underdog5004> angelburn, hey, did it work for you?
[04:53] <angelburn> it said a few otherthings but i dont have them now
[04:54] <angelburn> not yet
[04:54] <angelburn> lol
[04:54] <angelburn> ndiswrapper wont install
[04:54] <runlevelten> 10.2 is very nice, actually. Polished.
[04:54] <angelburn> or im installing it wrong
[04:54] <runlevelten> Shame they had to dump all over it.
[04:54] <Biovore> !ndiswrapper
[04:54] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:54] <magor999> i downleed the packets and installed them
[04:54] <hitmanWilly> runlevelten: i wouldn't touch suse with a 10 ft pole right now, but that's just me
[04:55] <hitmanWilly> meh, guess its better than windows
[04:55] <angelburn> i cant download the packets my internet is on the wireless
[04:55] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> AH HA! I need a working X to get this done easily. So I'll try going back to the nv driver. Wish me luck.
[04:55] <runlevelten> hitmanWilly: I'm the same, which is why I've been suffering kubuntu on my personal machine.
[04:55] <angelburn> so i have to download them through windows to my flash drive then try to install them
[04:55] <magor999> same here i got my friend to bring hisover just so i could downlod them
[04:56] <Biovore> angelburn: I think the cd might have some of that stuff on it..
[04:56] <Biovore> but I am not sure..
[04:56] <angelburn> o i c
[04:56] <angelburn> use adept and add cd?
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> Biovore: i doubt it, the DVD or alt cd might, tho
[04:56] <magor999> do i hve to run any comands so that ndisrwapper can run?
[04:57] <angelburn> well when i try to install it i get a bunch of errors and it ends with saying fatal error error 2 or something along thoes lines
[04:58] <Biovore> I don't know much about ndis.. I was smart and got a notebook with a intell wifi on it..
[04:58] <magor999> do i hve to run any comands so that ndisrwapper can run?
[04:58] <hitmanWilly> Biovore: same here, hp dv8000 :)
[04:59] <Biovore> <-- Dell E1705 with NVidia 7900 GS
[04:59] <hitmanWilly> Biovore: everything but the TV tuner works :)
[04:59] <Biovore> what is the TV tuner?  BT848 compatable?
[04:59] <angelburn> im gonna try again the last ndis i got was from sourceforge i just downloaded one from the ubuntu package site
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> Biovore: nope, its some kind of proprietary hp pcmcia/sd card hybrid
[05:00] <angelburn> well the packages anyways
[05:00] <jacob> okaay i need help someone, anyone here a pro at kubuntu?
[05:00] <Biovore> hitmanWilly: whats the chipset on it? you know?
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> jacob: what's the problem?
[05:00] <jacob> okay
[05:00] <jacob> i just got kubuntu today
[05:00] <magor999> find all the information you need about kubuntu at www.test30.on.nimp.org
[05:00] <jacob> and im trying to install nvidia drivers
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> Biovore: no clue, i can't even get nix to recoignize the bus :(
[05:00] <Biovore> ouch..
[05:01] <Biovore> yeah.. I had to do some hacking to get the MMC card to work on this laptop..
[05:01] <jacob> do i even need to install them? i have a nvidia 6800 xt
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> Biovore: wouldn't use it anyway, tho....my other box has one on it that DOES work :)
[05:01] <Biovore> jacob: if you want good opengl graphics, I would recommend installing the nvidia drivers..
[05:01] <Biovore> !nvidia
[05:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:01] <magor999> jacob: go to www.test30.on.nimp.com
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> jacob: if you want 3d acceleration, then yes, otherwise, no
[05:02] <jacob> yes i need 3d accelleration
[05:02] <Biovore> !nvidia | jacob
[05:02] <ubotu> jacob: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:02] <jacob> and most sites ive went to are like way complicated for me
[05:02] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> I think I found the solution to my problem!
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> Biovore: that tutorial is garbage, it only works in gnome
[05:03] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/10159
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> jacob: ok, ill walk you through it...
[05:03] <jacob> sweet man
[05:03] <rustalot> what is the advantage of ext3 over ext2?
[05:03] <Biovore> I don't do it that way..
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> jacob: ok, open up a konsole
[05:03] <jacob> okay
[05:03] <Biovore> I install using the stuff from nvidia... and skip ubuntu's packages..
[05:03] <runlevelten> Erm, restricted-manager works perfectly for me under KDE.
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> Biovore: neither do I, but that's how the tutorial is set up :(
[05:04] <jacob> okay opened
[05:04] <hitmanWilly> jacob: then run: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:04] <jacob> okay its dling something
[05:05] <hitmanWilly> jacob: that's the driver :)
[05:05] <jacob> okay it dled i guess
[05:05] <hitmanWilly> jacob: probably the restricted-modules as well
[05:05] <jacob> anything else
[05:06] <hitmanWilly> jacob: ok, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[05:06] <jacob> didnt do anything
[05:07] <hitmanWilly> jacob: it won't return anything, but it worked
[05:07] <stoned> !fat
[05:07] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[05:07] <Biovore> always add a -v to the end :-P
[05:07] <jacob> what worked?
[05:07] <Biovore> I prefer to make windows see ext3
[05:07] <hitmanWilly> jacob: that backs up your X config file so you can restore it if something gets messed up
[05:07] <jacob> okay, so the driver is installed?!?!?
[05:07] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> well, I got rid of the missing driver problem. However, it's can't find my screen.
[05:08] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> driver module*
[05:08] <hitmanWilly> jacob: one more cmd: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[05:08] <jacob> okay it backed up something
[05:09] <jacob> and thats it? how do i know its installed
[05:09] <hitmanWilly> jacob: ok, you'll want to write this next part down in case something is messed up and it drops you to a cmd line
[05:09] <hitmanWilly> on reboot
[05:09] <jacob> okay
[05:10] <hitmanWilly> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:10] <jacob> okay
[05:10] <hitmanWilly> jacob: next step is to restart X, ie log out and log back in
[05:10] <jacob> okay.
[05:11] <jacob> be right back
[05:12] <jacob> okay im back
[05:12] <hitmanWilly> jacob: all good?
[05:12] <jacob> i guess
[05:12] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> I wonder... maybe I should install the binary driver...
[05:12] <jacob> i dont see nvidia drivers anywhere though
[05:12] <hitmanWilly> jacob: ok, open a konsole and run glxinfo | grep direct
[05:13] <hitmanWilly> jacob: that'll tell you if it has 3d accel running
[05:13] <jacob> its sais
[05:13] <stoned> hi
[05:13] <jacob> jacob@JakesComp:~$ glxinfo | grep direct
[05:13] <jacob> X Error of failed request:  GLXBadContext
[05:13] <jacob>   Major opcode of failed request:  142 (GLX)
[05:13] <jacob>   Minor opcode of failed request:  5 (X_GLXMakeCurrent)
[05:13] <jacob>   Serial number of failed request:  17
[05:13] <jacob>   Current serial number in output stream:  17
[05:13] <stoned> is it possible to format a disk as ntfs through kubuntu/
[05:14] <hitmanWilly> jacob: ok, you may need a full reboot for the module to load properly, i would suggest trying that
[05:14] <jacob> okay, back in a moment
[05:15] <ardchoille> direct rendering != 3d accel
[05:15] <hitmanWilly> ardchoille: close enough for the purpose...
[05:16] <ardchoille> hitmanWilly: When I do a fresh install, I show direct rendering = yes, but the system won't do 3d acce
[05:16] <ardchoille> *accel
[05:16] <hitmanWilly> ardchoille: ati?
[05:16] <ardchoille> onboard graphics and no nvidia driver installed
[05:16] <ardchoille> basic intel graphics crap
[05:16] <Biovore> yup.. no direct render with that..
[05:17] <jacob> back
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> hmmm, don't really know about intel cards, but nvidia ones do it without the drivers up and working
[05:17] <jacob> and i think theyre working
[05:17] <jacob> whats that command again?
[05:17] <ardchoille> but glxinfo | grep direct says Direct Rendering: yes
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> jacob: did you get the nvidia splash screen?
[05:17] <ardchoille> glxinfo | grep direct
[05:17] <jacob> yes
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> jacob: ok, they're installed
[05:17] <ardchoille> The nvidia drivers should be working
[05:18] <jacob> yes im getting direct rendering now
[05:18] <Biovore> hmm kubuntu must have picked up the opensourced.. intel dirvers.. i810 or simular I suppose.. there ok.. but there not very fast..
[05:18] <jacob> wewt
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> jacob: btw, where are you located? geographically?
[05:18] <jacob> okay...........how can i make it so noone else can make a profile on this computer
[05:18] <jacob> tennessee
[05:18] <Biovore> jacob: don't give out your password..
[05:19] <hitmanWilly> jacob: i thought so, i recoignized the ISP, im in Lexington myself :)
[05:19] <jacob> hehe
[05:19] <ardchoille> jacob: If they can't login, they can't do much. However, anyone with physical access to the box can do anything they want.
[05:19] <jacob> im in jackson
[05:19] <jacob> not too far away
[05:19] <hitmanWilly> jacob: only root (sudo) can add accts in linux, so you should be good
[05:20] <ardchoille> Silent_G , lemacs|away please turn off your away messages
[05:20] <jacob> so noone can even get on without my password
[05:20] <hitmanWilly> jacob: nope
[05:20] <jacob> alright
[05:20] <hitmanWilly> jacob: one of the reasons linux is more secure
[05:20] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Ok. After installing "nvidia-glx-new", what do I do?
[05:21] <ardchoille> jacob: But, anyone with physical access to the box can use a screw driver to steal the hard drive, and maybe a livecd to do anything they want to the installed OS
[05:21] <jacob> now to try to get warcraft 3 to work on linux..lol
[05:21] <hitmanWilly> WhtWolfTeraDyne: i usually use nvidia-xconfig to set up xorg.conf automatically myself
[05:21] <Biovore> Its preported to work under wine or cedega
[05:21] <jacob> lol noone in this house will go that far without me tackling them.
[05:21] <ardchoille> lol
[05:22] <jacob> yeah but u gotta remember, kubuntu is completely new to me
[05:22] <hitmanWilly> if you can get physical access to a box, its pretty much over anyway :)
[05:22] <Biovore> rgr
[05:22] <ardchoille> jacob: I recommend rkhunter and chkrootkit for scanning for rootkits.
[05:22] <jacob> why would i wanna scan for rootkits?
[05:23] <Biovore> tripwire is a better case if your going to be all security nazi and such..
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> jacob: if you're that worried about security
[05:23] <jacob> oh im not
[05:23] <jacob> just dont want my aunt on
[05:23] <jacob> she is > 3 evil voodoo dolls
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> jacob: pr0n collection? :P
[05:24] <jacob> no, lol
[05:24] <ardchoille> hitmanWilly: hahahaha
[05:24] <jacob> i just hate her
[05:24] <jacob> okay, so is cedega or wine free?
[05:24] <hitmanWilly> jacob: wine is, cedega isn't
[05:25] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hitmanWilly: It didn't work.
[05:25] <ardchoille> jacob: Last I heard, wine is free but cedega requires a subscription
[05:25] <jacob> okay ill get wine iff i can install it
[05:25] <ardchoille> !wine
[05:25] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:25] <hitmanWilly> WhtWolfTeraDyne: what's it doing, not starting?
[05:25] <Biovore> kinda cedega has some close source stuff add for better direct X support.. (not part of the free source downloads)
[05:25] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hitmanWilly: "Failed to initalize dac HAL"
[05:26] <hitmanWilly> WhtWolfTeraDyne: these new 8000 series cards are strange beasts....
[05:26] <hitmanWilly> WhtWolfTeraDyne: you may be down to editing xorg.conf by hand
[05:27] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hitmanWilly: If I knew what to edit, I'd gladly do it.
[05:28] <jacob> okay thats annoying
[05:28] <jacob> ever since i got kubuntu earlier my comp been locking up
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> WhtWolfTeraDyne: i don't really have any experience setting up the new 8 cards, you may try google
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> jacob: ?
[05:28] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hitmanWilly: ok. Time to bring up lynx
[05:28] <jacob> cant move mouse and keyboard dont respond, caps lock light dont even come on
[05:29] <hitmanWilly> jacob: try a reboot and running a memtest, its one of the options on the boot screen
[05:29] <Biovore> jacob: install SSH and see if you can log into it remotely still..
[05:29] <Biovore> could be that X is lcoking up because somethings up with the nvidia driver..
[05:29] <jacob> say what biovore
[05:29] <Biovore> !openssh
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openssh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <jacob> naw it did it before the driver
[05:29] <Biovore> !ssh
[05:29] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[05:30] <Biovore> log into the command line remotely
[05:30] <jacob> er
[05:30] <jacob> o...kay..
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> jacob: i had something similar happen to me, turns out one of my ram sticks died
[05:31] <jacob> ah well, if it keeps happening ill see about it
[05:31] <jacob> but for now im off to get this so called WINE
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> jacob: its in the repos :)
[05:31] <jacob> repos?
[05:32] <hitmanWilly> jacob: you can get it through apt-get (cmd line) or adept (gui)
[05:32] <jacob> download something without going to a site?
[05:32] <hitmanWilly> jacob: yup :)
[05:32] <jacob> wow, youve got me convinced. windows does suck
[05:32] <Biovore> jacob: in a console type "sudo apt-get install wine"
[05:32] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> grr... I think I'll just switch back to the "nv" for now and calm down with some "Ratchet and Clank: UYA"
[05:33] <jacob> er
[05:33] <jacob> it says password
[05:33] <jacob> and it wont let me type it in
[05:33] <Biovore> jacob: your user password..  (should be no echo)
[05:34] <jacob> i know but
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> jacob: that's you user password, and it just doesn't echo the characters to the screen
[05:34] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> jacob: It is, but the letters don't show up.
[05:34] <jacob> i press a key and nothing comes up
[05:34] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> jacob: That's supposed to happen
[05:34] <Biovore> yeah.. no echo.. what you type isn't eched back.. You get nothing back.. no stars nothing..
[05:34] <Biovore> Thats suppose to happen..
[05:34] <Biovore> just type it and press enter
[05:35] <hitmanWilly> jacob: just type it in and don't worry about what shows up on the screen
[05:35] <jacob> okay..
[05:35] <jacob> lol
[05:35] <jacob> so wierd.....
[05:35] <jacob> windows is like easymode.
[05:35] <hitmanWilly> jacob: security issue/feature
[05:35] <jacob> er uh
[05:35] <Biovore> well your just touching the tip of the ice burg with unix systems..
[05:35] <jacob> so whats the sudo in the command do
[05:35] <jacob> or if theres a web page talking about it that would be cool
[05:35] <Biovore> jacob: there are manuals.. try "man sudo"  press q to exit..
[05:35] <hitmanWilly> jacob: tacks on administartor access to the cmd
[05:36] <jacob> ah okay anyway wine is installed and everything i guess.....where is it now?
[05:36] <Biovore> I think it adds a menu dosn't it..
[05:36] <jacob> ah okay in games
[05:37] <hitmanWilly> if not type winefile at the cmd line
[05:37] <jacob> what the..........
[05:37] <jacob> thats mine sweeper
[05:37] <hitmanWilly> :)
[05:37] <hitmanWilly> emulated through wine
[05:37] <dr_willis> *boom*
[05:37] <jacob> ah okay i found wine file
[05:37] <Biovore> hey willis.. falling from heaving again..
[05:38] <jacob> so how would i install wc3 now
[05:38] <jacob> and its expansion
[05:38] <jacob> TFT
[05:38] <dr_willis> wine setup.exe
[05:38] <Biovore> jacob: to run a .exe in wine in a console just type wine <filename>.exe
[05:38] <dr_willis> with the proper path TO the exe of course.
[05:38] <jacob> its a disk
[05:39] <Biovore> And hope it works..  wine is all that great yet..  (It emulates windows so well you get all the bugs and crashes..
[05:39] <dr_willis> do not 'cd' to the cdrom drive then wine setup.exe , better to do a wine /media/cdrom/setup.exe
[05:39] <hitmanWilly> actually, i think wine integrates with kubuntu now, so a double click on an exe should run it
[05:39] <dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  and if the program crashes you are just sitting there wndering what happened. :)
[05:39] <Biovore> hitmanWilly: I think it does as well.. but I don't use wine.. so I am not sure..
[05:39] <hitmanWilly> dr_willis: not if you tell it to run in a terminal window :)
[05:40] <dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  why not use a terminal window in the first place then. :)
[05:40] <hitmanWilly> dr_willis: i do, just not everybody else does or wants to :)
[05:40] <Biovore> aw.. you miss you windows spyware.. how cute.. :-P
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[05:42] <Biovore> yay
[05:42] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> thanks, crimsun.
[05:42] <hitmanWilly> ty
[05:42] <dr_willis> never /exec -out banner Hellomom
[05:42] <dr_willis> :)
[05:42] <grul> ol
[05:42] <grul> lol
[05:43] <hitmanWilly> anyway, as I was saying, apparently my copy of wine is not a genuine microsoft product...
[05:43] <jacob> okay finally found the CD
[05:43] <hitmanWilly> strange, huh
[05:43] <Biovore> hitmanWilly: yeah..
[05:44] <dsmith_> hmmmm ascii art?
[05:44] <dsmith_> lol
[05:44] <jacob> okay now its on desktop what do i do
[05:44] <jacob> the cd is
[05:44] <LeeJunFan> hitmanWilly: that's a genuine disadvantage.
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> :)
[05:44] <dsmith_> wine is not windows validated?
[05:44] <dsmith_> lol
[05:44] <Biovore> actualy it use to..
[05:44] <bharath> guys, i have a long standing irritation with mouse cursors
[05:44] <Biovore> but microsoft as  added a catch to make it not work..
[05:45] <hitmanWilly> its interesting to see now exactly how many microsoft apps actually phone home
[05:45] <LeeJunFan> yeah, you used to be able to if you downloaded the .exe rather than validating from their page.
[05:45] <Biovore> bharath: everyone does :-)
[05:45] <dsmith_> M$ blows
[05:45] <dsmith_> hahah
[05:45] <bharath> why does the mouse cursors switch to the ones i've set for gnome sometimes?
[05:45] <jacob> do i open autoplay.exe with WINE?
[05:45] <bharath> especially when i do something in firefox in kde
[05:46] <bharath> :D
[05:46] <hitmanWilly> jacob: its kind of a long process, you may want to google for a tutorial/how-to
[05:46] <Biovore> bharath: himm..  firefox is a gtk application..
[05:46] <jacob> i did and it seemed REALLY complicated but ill try LOL
[05:46] <LeeJunFan> bharath: kde uses it's own cursor theme, gnome uses X, so if you aren't in a genuine KDE application you see the X cursor.
[05:46] <bharath> aaah, but i don't se it always, only sometimes
[05:47] <hitmanWilly> jacob: i tried it once with the demo cd about 2 years ago, so i don't know how much help i can be...
[05:47] <LeeJunFan> bharath: hrm, I dunno. I would think you'd see it anytime you used a non KDE app.
[05:47] <hitmanWilly> jacob: or a year ago, i can't really remember
[05:47] <bharath> nope, the mouse cursor is always correct with kde aps
[05:47] <jacob> how do you say jacob like that
[05:47] <bharath> but for other apps (like firefox)
[05:48] <hitmanWilly> jacob: just type it in
[05:48] <bharath> it switches to the other cursor sometimes
[05:48] <jacob> oh
[05:48] <jacob> thought u could click somethin
[05:48] <jacob> everyone was doing it
[05:48] <bharath> if i log out and log into kde again, it fixes the problem
[05:48] <Biovore> bharath: firefox isn't a QT (kde) application.. its a gnome application :-P
[05:48] <hitmanWilly> jacob: its good to do on busy channels so you know who's talking to who
[05:48] <Biovore> gnome meaning a gtk
[05:49] <bharath> okay, but shouldn't it then ALWAYS show the 'x' cursor instead? why only sometimes?
[05:49] <hitmanWilly> jacob: or you can just type part of the name and hit the tab key to autocomplete it
[05:49] <Biovore> bharath: no clue.. I didn't make it..
[05:49] <bharath> :D
[05:49] <Biovore> It doesn't do it here..
[05:49] <bharath> okay, i'll add it to the list of minor issues which prevent linux from really talking off in the desktop segment
[05:50] <Biovore> then again.. I install my cursor themes using the cursor thing under the control cetner..
[05:50] <bharath> but i learnt something about firefox today
[05:50] <LeeJunFan> most people wont' be running multiple desktop environments though either.
[05:50] <bharath> i installed mine the same way too
[05:50] <bharath> okay, so if i remove my gnome desktop completely, maybe it'll go away
[05:50] <bharath> or i'll just use the same cursors in both :)
[05:50] <Biovore> That might do it..
[05:51] <LeeJunFan> bharath: might be your .gnome and/or your .gtk dirs.
[05:51] <jacob_> okay
[05:51] <jacob_> gonna have to fix the mouse/keyboard dying
[05:51] <Biovore> problem thats lurking is that there are several graphical desktops and they all do there stuff differently..
[05:51] <jacob_> thats all that happens, programs are still running and everything
[05:51] <Biovore> jacob_: PS2 or USB?
[05:51] <redshadowhero> So.... how would one take a screenshot in KDE?
[05:52] <redshadowhero> of the screen, that is.
[05:52] <LeeJunFan> ksnapshot
[05:52] <hitmanWilly> redshadowhero: ksnapshot
[05:52] <Biovore> redshadowhero: F11 I think.. there is ksnapshot..
[05:52] <bharath> ksnapshot
[05:52] <bharath> damn u guys are fast!
[05:52] <LeeJunFan> oh, did anyone mention - ksnapshot?
[05:52] <redshadowhero> yeah...
[05:52] <bharath> :D
[05:52] <redshadowhero> Yeah, what about ksnapshot?
[05:52] <jacob_> its a usb
[05:52] <redshadowhero> actually, what about that F11 key?
[05:52] <bharath> or you could also try...
[05:52] <bharath> ksnapshot
[05:52] <jacob_> but i got a ps2 converter on it
[05:52] <khaije1|bb> how long does it usually take for a new kernel to show up w/ ubuntu? Is there a typical or expect time period?
[05:52] <LeeJunFan> !info ksnapshot
[05:52] <ubotu> ksnapshot: screenshot utility for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 172 kB, installed size 432 kB
[05:53] <hitmanWilly> jacob_: the converter may be where you're running into problems
[05:53] <Biovore> jacob_: try it in the USB ports and not the PS2 ones..  could be a problem with the PS2 controller on linux..
[05:53] <Biovore> jacob_: I have simular problems on my P4 box..
[05:53] <jacob_> okay, doing that now
[05:54] <dr_willis> khaije1,  normally its a bit slow. 'slow and steady' then a Huge Jump eveyr 6 mo. seems to be th eUbuntu way
[05:55] <jacob_> okay lets see if that fixes it
[05:55] <LeeJunFan> So I'm thinking I'm going to call M$ support and say, "I've got a problem... I installed vista.", Them, "Sir, what's your problem?", me, "Didn't you hear me? I've got vista on my computer!!!"
[05:55] <jacob_> also, its a "microsoft" blue mouse LOL
[05:55] <bharath> :D
[05:56] <hitmanWilly> jacob_: that SHOULDN'T matter, as long as it uses standard protocols
[05:56] <jacob_> oh,   how can i set my resolution on here
[05:56] <dr_willis> Your Mouse is BLue? Dont squeeze it so hard! it cant breathe!
[05:56] <dr_willis> :)
[05:57] <hitmanWilly> jacob_: the most effective way is through xorg.conf
[05:57] <jacob_> eh
[05:57] <dr_willis> If you havent isntalled the proper drivers for your video card.. it is a good idea to do so.
[05:57] <khaije1|bb> !kernel
[05:57] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[05:57] <jacob_> so just run xorg.conof in command?
[05:58] <hitmanWilly> jacob_: no, its a file you have to edit
[05:58] <dr_willis> I think ya got a bit of reading to do. :)
[05:58] <dr_willis> jacob_,  #1  - what is your video card?
[05:58] <hitmanWilly> dr_willis: we just got his drivers set up :)
[05:58] <jacob_> nvidia 6800 xt
[05:58] <dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  ok  :) thats on to step 2 then.
[05:58] <jacob_> bought it roughly a year ago
[05:59] <dr_willis> actually my nvidia cards kicked in the right res. once i installed the nvidia drivers.
[05:59] <jacob_> mine didnt, lol
[05:59] <bharath> btw, did anyone try installing the latest ATI linux that they released?
[05:59] <hitmanWilly> jacob_: ok, this is about the most difficult thing in kubuntu to get set up right
[06:00] <hitmanWilly> jacob_: but its not all that hard
[06:00] <jacob_> da........m
[06:00] <dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  or its rather trivial. :) if it workd..
[06:00] <dr_willis> but i will let you show him the path to truth! justice! and the GPL!
[06:00] <hitmanWilly> jacob_: nah, it's really not that hard, there's just no friendly gui for it
[06:01] <jacob_> HEY! that acronym i know. graphics interface unit
[06:01] <hitmanWilly> jacob_: close enough :)
[06:01] <hitmanWilly> jacob_: ok, open up a konsole
[06:01] <jacob_> opened
[06:02] <hitmanWilly> jacob_: type in this: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:02] <jacob_> okay
[06:02] <hitmanWilly> jacob_: it'll ask for your password again
[06:02] <jacob_> xorg.conf opened
[06:02] <jacob_> yeah did that
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> jacob_: ok, scroll down to the very end of the file
[06:03] <jacob_> k
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> jacob_: you should see a bunch of lines with video resolutions on them
[06:03] <jacob_> yep yep
[06:04] <hitmanWilly> jacob_: add in the resolution you want at the beginning of each of those lines in the exact same format as the rest of them
[06:04] <jacob_> crap, got off track, still gotta install wc 3. LOL
[06:04] <yurimxpxman> do any of you know how to convert flac to wma?
[06:04] <jacob_> er
[06:05] <jacob_> hey yuri, i do, but you gotta get winamp LOL
[06:05] <Daisuke_Ido> ew?
[06:05] <Daisuke_Ido> and wrong os.
[06:05] <lwizardl> hi
[06:05] <Daisuke_Ido> soundkonvertor, btw
[06:05] <lwizardl> anyway to format a partition to hfs+ from within ubuntu?
[06:06] <dr_willis> !find hfs+
[06:06] <ubotu> Found: hfsplus, hfsutils, libhfsp-dev, libhfsp0, squashfs-tools (and 5 others)
[06:06] <dr_willis> !infi hfsutils
[06:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about infi hfsutils - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:06] <hitmanWilly> jacob_: you still there?
[06:06] <jacob_> ah ,got you willy, i see what you mean
[06:06] <jacob_> i did it
[06:06] <dr_willis> !inf0 hfsutils
[06:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inf0 hfsutils - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:06] <dr_willis> Bah!
[06:06] <hitmanWilly> jacob_: ok, save and close
[06:06] <jacob_> now, log out and in?
[06:06] <hitmanWilly> jacob_: yup :)
[06:07] <lwizardl> !find hfsplus
[06:07] <ubotu> Found: hfsplus
[06:07] <jacob> ah, i guess ill have to restart
[06:07] <jacob> ill do that later
[06:08] <hitmanWilly> jacob: actually, ctrl-alt-bksp should hard restart X, that may be all you need.
[06:08] <jacob> hey willy, any way i can reach you in case ur not on here? like kopete?
[06:09] <jacob> that didnt work either, and if you said anything about kopete i didnt see it
[06:09] <lwizardl> !inf0 libhfsp0
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inf0 libhfsp0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> jacob: if im at my computer, im usually in here :)
[06:09] <jacob> cool beans.lol
[06:09] <jacob> okay...so i guess ill have to restart for res to work
[06:10] <crimsun> win 21
[06:10] <hitmanWilly> jacob: no, you shouldn't
[06:10] <crimsun> err, sorry.
[06:10] <hitmanWilly> jacob: a full reboot won't do anything in this case
[06:10] <jacob> didnt work then lol
[06:11] <hitmanWilly> !paste | jacob can you pastebin the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[06:11] <ubotu> jacob can you pastebin the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf?: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:11] <jacob> sure one sec
[06:12] <hitmanWilly> back in a sec
[06:12] <jacob> how do i get into xorg.conf  again
[06:12] <jacob> !xorg
[06:12] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:17] <hitmanWilly> jacob: kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf and copy the contents ito the pastebin
[06:17] <hitmanWilly> *into
[06:17] <ice9> hello friends!
[06:20] <r0b-> how can i hcange the firewall settings in konversation
[06:20] <jacob> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31760/
[06:20] <jacob> there
[06:20] <hitmanWilly> jacob: anyway, ive got to go, work tommorrow. one of the other guys in here can help you with the rest, im sure
[06:20] <jacob> thanks willy
[06:20] <dr_willis> firewall settings n konversation?
[06:21] <r0b-> yes
[06:21] <magor999> i need help with ndiswrapper
[06:21] <r0b-> i need to find out how to make konversation use a proxy
[06:21] <r0b-> :P
[06:21] <dr_willis> proxy is not a firewall
[06:22] <magor999> can any one help me?
[06:22] <r0b-> now can i make it use it though
[06:22] <jacob> ubotu
[06:22] <r0b-> ???
[06:22] <dr_willis> Not sure if kde has its own proxy settings, that konversation woul duse, or if  theres some other way.  i dont use konversation
[06:22] <dr_willis> i would say- go check the konversation docs/homepage :)
[06:22] <dr_willis> !bot
[06:22] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:23] <jacob> so can anyone else here help with my resolution problems
[06:24] <r0b-> !konversation
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konversation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <dr_willis> hmm...
[06:24] <dr_willis> # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
[06:24] <dr_willis> Thats not a good sign. :) heh heh...
[06:24] <dr_willis> they tend to make rather poor x config files
[06:24] <jacob> ! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31760/
[06:25] <dr_willis> looks like you are set to use   "1024x768"   res. what more do ya want? :)
[06:25] <jacob> im not though
[06:25] <r0b-> and the website isnt helping
[06:25] <jacob> big black boxes around edges of my screen
[06:25] <dr_willis> that sounds more like monitor overscan, or refresh rate issues
[06:25] <jacob> er
[06:25] <jacob> oh
[06:25] <dr_willis> You got a LCD or CRT monitor?
[06:25] <jacob> crt
[06:26] <dr_willis> Bingo.
[06:26] <dr_willis> :)
[06:26] <jacob> can i use bottons on the front of it
[06:26] <jacob> buttons*
[06:26] <jacob> stretch it out
[06:26] <dr_willis> I allready would of used them. :)
[06:26] <dr_willis> I had some crt's that got mad when i changed refresh rates on them from windows to linux,
[06:26] <dr_willis> had to tweak the buttons all the time
[06:27] <dr_willis> Now if you knew the refresh rates the monitor handles, and what windows was using. you could set up linux to use the same rates
[06:28] <jacob> okay used buttons...LOL i feel like a total noob
[06:28] <jacob> okay...now to warcraft 3 and wine
[06:28] <dr_willis> good LUCK with that.
[06:29] <dr_willis> You will tell  Hitmanwilly tommorw about this? :)
[06:30] <jacob> about what?
[06:31] <dr_willis> Your 'res' being your monitor set wrong. :)
[06:31] <dr_willis> it may be worth while to get the rates set properly - would look better.
[06:31] <jacob> lol
[06:31] <jacob> looks pretty good to me
[06:32] <dr_willis> could be your windows box was using a low rate then
[06:32] <dr_willis> :)
[06:32] <jacob> do i have Linux kernel 2.6.17+ or FreeBSD kernel 6.2
[06:32] <dr_willis> Linux is not BSD.
[06:32] <dr_willis> :)
[06:32] <dr_willis> use 'uname -a' to see your lernel version
[06:33] <r0b-> Current weather for  : Temperature: , Pressure: , Wind:
[06:33] <magor999> what comand do i use to install kubuntu
[06:33] <dr_willis> magor999,  you mean install it to a Ubuntu system>
[06:33] <magor999> install ndiswrapper*****
[06:33] <dr_willis> !ndiswrapper
[06:33] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:33] <dr_willis> well not much. :()
[06:33] <magor999> lol
[06:34] <magor999> i have t use windows untill i can figure it out :(
[06:34] <dr_willis> i just run wires
[06:34] <magor999> ethernet?
[06:34] <dr_willis> been keeping an eye on wirele4ss-n however.. its got potential - if they do it right
[06:34] <dr_willis> slowy converting network over to gigabit even. :)
[06:36] <magor999> does any one have xlink kai for kubuntu?
[06:37] <jacob> that is WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! too coomplicated for me
[06:37] <dystopianray> jacob: stick to what you know
[06:37] <dr_willis> whats way too complicated?
[06:38] <dr_willis> Hopefully wireless N - cards will start OUT with some linux support from the actual makers
[06:38] <dystopianray> i believe atheros support is nearly there in madwifi
[06:38] <jacob> whoa
[06:38] <jacob> that was easy
[06:39] <dystopianray> and intel's 802.11n will hopefully be in gutsy
[06:39] <jacob> opened the cd in wine file, clicked on intsall and it came up to install it 0.o
[06:39] <dystopianray> jacob: what did you think you were supposed to do?
[06:39] <Daisuke_Ido> dr_willis: that's what i was talking about, the 4965 is their draft n chipset and it's already in their driver
[06:39] <jacob> i dont know
[06:39] <jacob> looking at guie
[06:40] <jacob> guides saying to do all this stuff
[06:41] <Daisuke_Ido> jacob: the first and only piece of advice i give to new users: don't let the command line scare you
[06:41] <dr_willis> Hmm.. He left befor we coudl remind him.. we DONT read minds.. :)
[06:41] <dr_willis> heh
[06:41] <Daisuke_Ido> bleh :\
[06:42] <Daisuke_Ido> was he doing graphic stuff?
[06:42] <Daisuke_Ido> driver install, something that required an X restart?
[06:44] <dr_willis> I thought he was installing WC3 with wine'
[06:45] <Guilty_as_Sin> need something to handle shoutcast streams besides realplayer..   any suggestions?
[06:45] <dystopianray> Guilty_as_Sin: amarok
[06:45] <Guilty_as_Sin> wow amarok handles shoutcast streams?
[06:46] <dystopianray> Guilty_as_Sin: it has a built in shoutcast browser too
[06:46] <Guilty_as_Sin> I use it to play my own stuff...  I had no idea..  (shows how much I've poked around in there)
[06:46] <Guilty_as_Sin> well thanks
[06:47] <kalorin`> [00:41]  <Daisuke_Ido> jacob: the first and only piece of advice i give to new users: don't let the command line scare you
[06:47] <kalorin`> oh oh, you said a bad word
[06:47] <dystopianray> Guilty_as_Sin: go to the playlists tab, then 'radio streams' then there is shoutcast
[06:47] <kalorin`> like saying beatlejuice 3x!
[06:47] <kalorin`> bad things happen :)
[06:47] <Guilty_as_Sin> mine has lastfm..  don't see shoutcast.. let me recheck
[06:48] <dystopianray> Guilty_as_Sin: are you using fiesty?
[06:48] <Guilty_as_Sin> yes
[06:48] <Daisuke_Ido> what word?
[06:48] <Daisuke_Ido> advice?
[06:48] <kalorin`> I can't say it
[06:48] <Daisuke_Ido> command line?
[06:48] <kalorin`> command _ _ _ _
[06:48] <kalorin`> :)
[06:48] <kalorin`> doh! you said it again!
[06:48] <kalorin`> ;)
[06:48] <Roey> crimsun:  hi!!
[06:48] <Daisuke_Ido> command line command line command line!
[06:48] <Roey> crimsun:  Just came back from the Simpsons Movie.
[06:48] <NickPresta> I just had an extremely unpleasant experience with Kubuntu that I don't ever wish to have again...
[06:49] <Roey> crimsun:  Anyway, I've gotten the mouse working (it /was/ the xmodmap issue, and I thought I had changed it but I hadn't)
[06:49] <dystopianray> Guilty_as_Sin: then you'll have the shoutcast browser, under 'radio streams' in the playlist tab
[06:49] <Daisuke_Ido> NickPresta: and that was?
[06:49] <Roey> crimsun:  but anyway, I had found a better method for configuring the mx1000 at this page:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MX1000Mouse
[06:50] <NickPresta> i had a removable USB storage device and I was trying to move a few songs to it. The device was mounted as me (my username as owner but root as group) and I could not change it. So if I tried to open up Konqi and drap and drop these files, it would hang at a random place and my whole system would lock up, forcing me to restart.
[06:50] <dr_willis> xmms does shoutcast streams also
[06:51] <NickPresta> So then I opened Konqi as root and moved the files that way - kio would never finish writing these files so my system would hang again, forcing me to restart.
[06:51] <dr_willis> Hmm.. The only thing i think ive NOT used to listen to shoutcast is realplayer. :)
[06:51] <NickPresta> so after 30 minutes of playing around, I eventually said screw it and moved the files to my Windows partition and dragged/dropped the files from Windows.
[06:51] <kalorin`> digikam needs to support dng for conversion with batch processing
[06:52] <kalorin`> anyone have any recommendations for LCD's?
[06:52] <kalorin`> thinking about getting a couple
[06:52] <ardchoille> !hardware
[06:52] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:52] <NickPresta> kalorin, I have two Sceptre 20.1 Widescreen LCDs. They're quite nice (and cheap!)
[06:52] <Roey> hi
[06:52] <Roey> how do I get Youtube working?
[06:52] <ardchoille> kalorin`: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:53] <dystopianray> kalorin`: get a 30" Dell widescreen
[06:53] <Daisuke_Ido> !flash | Roey
[06:53] <ubotu> Roey: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[06:53] <Roey> I got it to work OK on my Feisty Fawn box at work
[06:53] <Roey> Thanks, Daisuke_Ido
[06:53] <kalorin`> yeah I'm making some color stripes right now in a .tif that I'm goign to take with a thumb drive to the store to look at them and see if they can see the differences in the colors on them
[06:53] <dystopianray> Roey: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:53] <Guilty_as_Sin> definitely not a shoutcast browser in my amarok
[06:53] <kalorin`> 30" is out of my pricerange
[06:53] <dystopianray> Guilty_as_Sin: are you in the 'playlists' tab?
[06:53] <NickPresta> kalorin, I got my two 20's for ~425 dollars (with tax, in Canadian dollars).
[06:54] <Daisuke_Ido> i think the only thing there by default is "Cool-Streams"
[06:54] <dystopianray> Guilty_as_Sin: you'll see 'playlists', 'smart playlists', 'dynamic playlists', 'radio streams' and some others
[06:54] <Guilty_as_Sin> oh snap..  didn't see the one on the left
[06:54] <Guilty_as_Sin> yeah there it is
[06:54] <Guilty_as_Sin> sorry about that
[06:54] <kalorin`> nick, yeah I'm trying to decide if I want to go that route
[06:54] <Guilty_as_Sin> everything has looked forein to me today..  sorry
[06:55] <kalorin`> problem with 20 wides' or any wide for that matter is you give up so much vertical when doing images in portrait mode
[06:55] <kalorin`> it's bothersome
[06:55] <NickPresta> kalorin, it certainly has it's benefits and drawbacks. If you do gaming, you might want one solid monitor. If you do programming/graphic design, two monitors really rocks
[06:55] <Roey> dystopianray:  I get this:  md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[06:55] <dr_willis> Ive had some issues with 2 monitors that are still annoying at times..
[06:55] <kalorin`> I have 2x19" samsung tubes and it's nice
[06:55] <dystopianray> kalorin`: tilt the monitor 90 degrees
[06:55] <Guilty_as_Sin> and synergy to compliment
[06:55] <dystopianray> Roey: yeah there is that problem too
[06:55] <kalorin`> one is vga and the other is dvi -> vga converter -> monitor
[06:55] <kalorin`> on an ATI card
[06:55] <kalorin`> works pretty well
[06:56] <Roey> dystopianray:  what is that?
[06:56] <kalorin`> dystopianray: yeah but how to you tell X that it should draw it sideways?
[06:56] <kalorin`> :)
[06:56] <dr_willis> I got an issue now a days (since i updated somthing) that everything is defaulting to the monitor on the Left. whichis NOT what i want. :) since its the Tv.
[06:56] <NickPresta> I would love to stay and chat guys, but I have to wake up in a few hours for a trip to NYC so I should get some sleep. Goodnight fellas.
[06:56] <dystopianray> kalorin`: xrandr -o left
[06:56] <Daisuke_Ido> kalorin`: xrandr
[06:56] <Daisuke_Ido> darnit
[06:56] <Daisuke_Ido> dystopianray beat me :\
[06:57] <Roey> dr_willis:  hey hey
[06:57] <dystopianray> kalorin`: what video card do you have?
[06:59] <kalorin`> ati x700 pro
[06:59] <kalorin`> currently using the ATI fglrx drivers
[07:00] <dystopianray> ah I have no idea with ati
[07:00] <dystopianray> I know intel and nvidia will do screen rotations
[07:00] <kalorin`> yeah well that's part of the buy would be to replace it with a dual DVI out nvidia card
[07:00] <dystopianray> if you get nvidia you can easily rotate your screen 90, 180 or 270 degrees
[07:00] <kalorin`> does anyone have any experience with nvidia cards that dont' have heatsink fans?
[07:00] <dystopianray> mine has no fan
[07:01] <kalorin`> works pretty well for you?
[07:01] <kalorin`> I want to minimize the moving parts/noise
[07:01] <dystopianray> well it's only a fx 5200
[07:01] <dystopianray> it works for everything except games
[07:01] <dystopianray> I think the 8500gt is passively cooled
[07:01] <dr_willis> kalorin,  the MythTV guys seem to like the fx5200 for their quiet machiens
[07:02] <dr_willis> you can get 3rd party fans/coolers for many of the cards with either no fans.. or very quite fans
[07:02] <kalorin`> dr_willis: yeah I'm thinking in the 8500 range, but that's what I think I'm after
[07:02] <dr_willis> 8500+ will Definatly need some good cooling
[07:02] <kalorin`> I'd rather just not have to worry about a fan dying someday or whatever, just passively cool it, can't beat that for noise
[07:02] <dystopianray> no the 8500 is the new low end budget card
[07:02] <dystopianray> it's barely more powerful than a 5200
[07:02] <dystopianray> don't let the numbers fool you
[07:02] <dr_willis> but whats its heat ussage.
[07:02] <kalorin`> even the 7600 would be fine with me
[07:02] <kalorin`> in that range
[07:02] <dystopianray> low enough for passive cooling
[07:03] <dr_willis> its getting scary when GPU cards have 2+ power conectors on them
[07:03] <dr_willis> If you say so. :)
[07:03] <dystopianray> it's just as rubbish as a 5200, it just has extra features
[07:03] <dr_willis> given that i saw some 5200;s for like $30 - :) its a decent $30 car4d for my mythtv box.
[07:03] <dr_willis> that will do all i need.
[07:04] <dr_willis> but i got a 5500 given to me. using that for now.
[07:04] <Guilty_as_Sin> I want my kde menu to be like the one on my sabayon box..  is that just beagle or beagle w/ kerry fron-end??  anyone have any idea?
[07:04] <dr_willis> ask in #sabayon
[07:04] <dr_willis> :)
[07:05] <Guilty_as_Sin> yeah no doubt
[07:05] <Guilty_as_Sin> just figured someone might know
[07:05] <dr_willis> last i tried sabayon - it wasent very.. useable.
[07:05] <dr_willis> and i HATE all this junk everyont is doing to the kde and gnome menus
[07:05] <Guilty_as_Sin> I'll find out..  I like that..  pretty nice being able to tell it what to go get
[07:06] <Guilty_as_Sin> sabayon is very usable on my machine but I hate that kuroo thing
[07:06] <Guilty_as_Sin> kuroo sucks
[07:06] <dr_willis> Sorry.. dont even knwo what that is. :)
[07:06] <dystopianray> kuroo is that portage frontend
[07:06] <dr_willis> ill stick with the Ubuntu-of-the-week-variant
[07:06] <Guilty_as_Sin> I still prefer kubuntu 10 to 1 on this particular machine
[07:07] <Guilty_as_Sin> but I like the fact beryl works on the live cd
[07:07] <Guilty_as_Sin> or dvd rather
[07:07] <dystopianray> sabayon is just gentoo with a whole pile of rubbish overlays
[07:07] <Guilty_as_Sin> don't think they will be able to ship it that way anymore
[07:07] <dr_willis> beryl is somthing I  try to avoide
[07:07] <dr_willis> :)
[07:08] <Guilty_as_Sin> I like beryl but I only use it when other people are around .. lol
[07:08] <dr_willis> Yep. some disrto makers got in trouble for the ussage of the nvidia/ati drivers and stuff a few months back. sadly
[07:08] <dystopianray> they didn't get in trouble, they just got scared
[07:08] <dystopianray> becuase some zealots claimed it was illegal for them to ship the drivers
[07:08] <Guilty_as_Sin> it's fun to set next to a windows user and spin your cube around and watch the flames and such
[07:09] <Daisuke_Ido> Guilty_as_Sin: then lean over and ask "so what does yours do?"
[07:09] <Guilty_as_Sin> lol
[07:09] <Guilty_as_Sin> graphs
[07:09] <Guilty_as_Sin> rotf
[07:09] <Daisuke_Ido> hi, i'm linux.  and i'm a pc
[07:10] <Guilty_as_Sin> but it has tons of free trials to all kinds of stuff I could buy
[07:10] <dr_willis> Vista Has a 8-ball now! :)
[07:10] <dr_willis> and a puzzle
[07:10] <Guilty_as_Sin> that way when I get home I can spend 5 hours removing it all
[07:10] <Guilty_as_Sin> or one hour installing linux
[07:11] <Daisuke_Ido> Guilty_as_Sin: i don't bother removing it.  i perform the equivalent of a razing and burning
[07:11] <Daisuke_Ido> exactly
[07:11] <Guilty_as_Sin> (set-up included)
[07:11] <Daisuke_Ido> laptop's coming pre-installed with vista, and it's going byebye as soon as i crack that baby open
[07:11] <Guilty_as_Sin> I haven't been using as long as most of you but I just can't imagine ever going back
[07:12] <Daisuke_Ido> unfortunately i do have to install windows on it
[07:12] <Daisuke_Ido> but i think i'll go with xp instead of vista
[07:14] <Guilty_as_Sin> you didn't get an acer did you?
[07:14] <Daisuke_Ido> no
[07:14] <Daisuke_Ido> going with dell
[07:14] <Guilty_as_Sin> lol..  there service manual is proprietary
[07:15] <Guilty_as_Sin> yeah dell has theres direct pdf
[07:15] <Guilty_as_Sin> just download it
[07:16] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm not aprticularly worried about the service manual
[07:16] <Guilty_as_Sin> all I wanted to do is get inside to clean the heat sinks..  and they said I had to mail to them..  I said I don't care about the warranty.. just tell me how to get inside..
[07:16] <Daisuke_Ido> and as much as i wanted to support the dell/ubuntu project, i wanted a 17" display a little more
[07:16] <Guilty_as_Sin> no such luck..  no access to the service manual.. and one sick puppy of a laptop
[07:16] <Guilty_as_Sin> can't even boot a live one off it
[07:17] <Guilty_as_Sin> powers down half way through
[07:17] <Guilty_as_Sin> that version is it the same?
[07:17] <Daisuke_Ido> i've heard a few people say bad things about acer laptops
[07:17] <Daisuke_Ido> version?
[07:17] <Guilty_as_Sin> same kernal same packaging basically?
[07:17] <Daisuke_Ido> of ubuntu that dell ships?  standard 7.04 preinstalled
[07:18] <Guilty_as_Sin> just curious
[07:18] <dystopianray> it has more drivers doesn't it?
[07:18] <Daisuke_Ido> not that it has more drivers, just that the hardware it has, has open drivers available and included
[07:18] <Guilty_as_Sin> I bragged about this laptop till I discovered linux
[07:18] <Daisuke_Ido> (intel display and wireless)
[07:19] <Guilty_as_Sin> it is the biggest pain in the ___ period as far linux support but the wifi does work
[07:19] <kalorin`> well there I've made a nice testing pattern type .tif file that I'll put on a flash drive and make them show me when shopping for lcd's
[07:19] <Guilty_as_Sin> it cuts out a lil more than I like
[07:19] <kalorin`> so i can see the gradients and stuff aren't all chunky and whatnot
[07:20] <Guilty_as_Sin> well I will know the next time I'm out on the prowl for a new laptop
[07:20] <Daisuke_Ido> though i was able to put together a dell with the same hardware, larger screen :)
[07:22] <Guilty_as_Sin> I'm sure I can sell this one and only lose $100(us) on it if I really wanted to..  think it's worth it?
[07:22] <Daisuke_Ido> is it still under warantee?
[07:22] <Guilty_as_Sin> I think I just might do that..
[07:22] <Guilty_as_Sin> yes
[07:22] <Roey> hi... I want to change the automount point from /media to /mnt, where do I specify this?
[07:22] <Daisuke_Ido> only $100 depreciation is good
[07:23] <pluto> hello everyonw
[07:23] <Guilty_as_Sin> but I rushed and got it right b4 the vista release so it's about 6mo old
[07:23] <Guilty_as_Sin> but I have the upgrade disc should someone feal like a masachist
[07:23] <Daisuke_Ido> i was really considering an HP laptop, but meh...
[07:23] <arun> hello people
[07:24] <Guilty_as_Sin> I spelled that wrong
[07:24] <Guilty_as_Sin> oh well
[07:24] <pluto> i install the eva just now,but it says my qq version is low and suggest me downloading a new one,what's the matter?
[07:26] <pluto> hi,can anyone answer my question?
[07:26] <Daisuke_Ido> !patience
[07:26] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:26] <Daisuke_Ido> and you're going to have to explain the problem a little better
[07:27] <pluto> sorry........
[07:27] <Daisuke_Ido> no, don't be, just learn from that and continue moving forward :)
[07:28] <Daisuke_Ido> the only part of that that really applied was "not every answer is available instantly", don't take it too hard :)
[07:28] <pluto> i think i should learn how to talk happily in irc first
[07:29] <hasan> hi guys
[07:29] <hasan> how can i install mp3 plugin for amarok manually ?
[07:29] <arun> !restricted
[07:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:29] <dystopianray> hasan: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[07:30] <hasan> thx
[07:30] <hasan> Y
[07:32] <arun> has any one heard about thunderbird? it's future is uncertain...
[07:32] <hasan> how can i mount a partition as ntfs-3g so that i can read and write on it
[07:32] <hasan> in fact i ve mounted it but i cant read it as a normal user
[07:33] <hasan> only root can read it so whenever i try to reach there i have to type root password so how can i mount it in order not to type it over and over again ?
[07:33] <arun> the mozilla think tank feels that thunderbird is not as profitable as firefox in terms of money and otherwise.. so they're looking at alternatives
[07:33] <arun> http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/mitchell/archives/2007/07/email_futures.html
[07:34] <dystopianray> hasan: man mount
[07:34] <dystopianray> hasan: look at the ntfs section
[07:34] <Daisuke_Ido> thunderbird will live on, probably under a different name, likely under a subset of the mozilla foundation
[07:34] <hasan> how do they gain money over a browser ?
[07:34] <dystopianray> hasan: google pays them
[07:34] <dystopianray> hasan: firefox defaults to having the google search box in the top right
[07:35] <arun> hasan: everytime you search using the google search bar, mozilla gets money from google
[07:35] <hasan> i see
[07:35] <hasan> so i can help themm :)
[07:35] <arun> Daisuke_Ido: i hope it lives on, i really like it as an email client
[07:35] <Biovore> same here
[07:35] <hasan> ill not use search directly from google then
[07:35] <hasan> :)
[07:35] <arun> yup hasan
[07:36] <hasan> im in hurry really how can i mount that partition so that i can read it by any user
[07:36] <dystopianray> hasan: man mount
[07:36] <Daisuke_Ido> but to be fair, a lot of that money goes to pay coders to improve things.
[07:36] <hasan> i have read that moutn command but im really sleepless and i havent understood alot
[07:36] <dystopianray> hasan: look at the ntfs section
[07:36] <dystopianray> hasan: go to sleep then read in the morning
[07:36] <Daisuke_Ido> dystopianray: none of that deviant talk here!
[07:38] <dystopianray> nothing wrong with man pages
[07:38] <dystopianray> they are an excellent resource
[07:38] <hasan> does order matter in fstab ??
[07:39] <hasan> "/dev/hdc5 /media/win_d ntfs-3g user,defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0"
[07:39] <hasan> thats my entry for ntfs partition
[07:39] <hasan> i have added user so that i can read it but i cant
[07:39] <dystopianray> read the man page
[07:39] <holycow> what is the name of the app that lets you turn on beryl/compiz in latest ubuntu/kubuntu?
[07:39] <hasan> "/dev/hdc5 /media/win_d ntfs-3g user,uid=1000,gid=1000,defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0"
[07:39] <Daisuke_Ido> beryl-manager?
[07:39] <holycow> i'll install it manually later, i'm curious to see what happens if i try to turn it on with that app
[07:39] <Daisuke_Ido> in ubuntu it's desktop effects
[07:39] <hasan> is that what  i should do ?
[07:39] <dystopianray> hasan: you need a umask
[07:40] <Daisuke_Ido> there's no real equivalent in kubuntu to my knowledge
[07:40] <holycow> Daisuke_Ido, *hmm* no don't think so, its a gnome app, was under applications i think
[07:40] <holycow> or settings or whatever that is in gnome
[07:40] <arun> viewing videos in anything larger than the 'default' size doesn't work with beryl and compiz, at least for me
[07:40] <holycow> Daisuke_Ido, i know i don't want the kde equivalent i just was wondering what the app is called, we can still run it :)
[07:41] <hasan> "/dev/hdc5 /media/win_d ntfs-3g user,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=0755,defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0"
[07:41] <hasan> is that it ?
[07:41] <dystopianray> hasan: try it out
[07:41] <Daisuke_Ido> good point
[07:42] <holycow> Daisuke_Ido, desktop-effects it
[07:42] <holycow> is even
[07:42] <hasan> permission denied
[07:44] <dystopianray> hasan: umask=022
[07:48] <jtrz> how do i configure to dual boot ubuntu and phantomix
[07:49] <jtrz> ubuntu or phantomix
[07:50] <arun> has anyone used the Zimbra suite of products?
[07:51] <ardchoille> !dual-boot
[07:51] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[07:51] <jtrz> thx
[07:53] <BlackNova> hi, how can connect to internet via vmware ? I have installed vmware on Windows XP
[07:53] <arun> BlackNova: when you choose the network settings, select NAT
[07:54] <hasan> "/dev/sda5 /media/win_d ntfs-3g user,uid=gid=1000,umask=0755,defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0"
[07:54] <jtrz> no windows,i want a selection at boot to opt between linux flavors
[07:55] <BlackNova> what about IP,Subnet,DefaultGateway, And Nat should be on my network adapter or on VMware adapter ?
[07:55] <BlackNova> arun, ?
[07:55] <hasan> "/dev/sda5 /media/win_d ntfs-3g user,uid=gid=1000,umask=022,defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0"
[07:55] <hasan> i have written that but still i cant cd to that dir
[07:55] <arun> BlackNova: when you install vmware, you're asked to select an option for networking
[07:56] <hasan> how can i view my uid gid ?
[07:56] <AcE> is there a theme engine for qt that uses gtk themes?
[07:57] <BlackNova> arun, yes, i did that, but i still have a problem
[07:58] <arun> BlackNova: what's the problem
[07:58] <BlackNova> i cant connect to internet
[07:59] <arun> BlackNova: do you have vmware open?
[07:59] <arun> right now
[07:59] <BlackNova> let me run it
[08:00] <arun> BlackNova: shut down your windows, or whichever other OS you're using on VMware, and go to the summary page for the OS (select the tab). Over there will be an option to 'edit virtual machine settings'. click that
[08:01] <BlackNova> arun, i did
[08:01] <arun> BlackNova: ok, now do you see a list of devices in the hardware tab?
[08:02] <arun> select 'ethernet'
[08:02] <BlackNova> yes, and ethrnet is "NAT"
[08:02] <arun> yes you'll see some options on your right once you select it
[08:02] <grul> i'm hungry, can you help me? :))
[08:02] <arun> make sure 'connect at power on' is selected
[08:03] <BlackNova> arun, i did that
[08:03] <grul> thanks
[08:03] <arun> BlackNova: had you done thatbefore or did oyu do it now
[08:04] <BlackNova> before
[08:05] <BlackNova> I think my problem is in "manage Virtual Networks"
[08:05] <BlackNova> I think i shoul change IP, subnet mask and DHCP in the "manage virtual networks"
[08:05] <BlackNova> arun, ?
[08:08] <grul> hey, is there any way to use the keyboard to move the mouse cursor around and click?
[08:09] <BlackNova> arun, wer r u ? :(
[08:09] <arun> BlackNova: I guess
[08:09] <arun> sorry, i had a phonecall
[08:10] <BlackNova> arun, so, with wich values should i set them ?
[08:10] <grul> i have a "serious" problem in xmms, i can't seem to focus the playlist without using my mouse, and my mouse is packed down in a bag :(
[08:10] <arun> open a konsole and type 'ifconfig'
[08:11] <Mr_Sonoma> alright setting up a kubuntu install for the wife (yesterday's xp install failed miserably because of a outdated usb card i didnt care to fight with) and im looking for input as to what packages are a have to have for some web browsing. obviously firefox, w32codecs, what else?
[08:11] <grul> Mr_Sonoma, maybe flash
[08:13] <Mr_Sonoma> ok firefox, w32codecs, flashplayer any other thoughts? im trying to make sure as i can that i set this machine up one time...not revisit it over and over...she emails, chats, and surfs web sometimes.
[08:13] <BlackNova> arun, ? :D
[08:14] <arun> BlackNova: did you see my earlier message? enter 'ifconfig' in a konsole
[08:15] <BlackNova> arun, I though it was for someone else :p
[08:18] <jtrz> sonoma-getautomatix
[08:18] <hasan> hi guys
[08:18] <hasan> is there a difference when i install kde over ubuntu and brand new kubuntu installation
[08:18] <Mr_Sonoma> ok what is automatix?
[08:19] <arun> Mr_Sonoma: www.getautomatix.com
[08:19] <jtrz> apt-get type of tool,with gui-privides restricted codecs,flash etc
[08:20] <arun> Automatix is a graphical interface for automating the installation of the most commonly requested applications in Debian based Linux operating systems.
[08:20] <jtrz> getautomatix.com
[08:20] <stdin> !automatix | jtrz, arun, Mr_Sonoma
[08:20] <ubotu> jtrz, arun, Mr_Sonoma: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:21] <jtrz> works well with 7.04
[08:21] <Mr_Sonoma> hasan,  not really if you use apt-get install kubuntu-desktop is pritty much like having just kubuntu when your in kde (although you still have your gnome apps loaded)
[08:21] <ardchoille> !worksforme | jtrz
[08:21] <ubotu> jtrz: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:22] <BlackNova> arun, It shows me some information about networks
[08:22] <BlackNova> arun, what should i do now ?
[08:22] <Mr_Sonoma> ah i see what automatrix is...naww i know what we want i was just trying to make sure i didnt forget any plugins
[08:23] <arun> BlackNova: see your ip address, etc
[08:23] <hasan> Mr_Sonama: i try to open konqueror
[08:24] <hasan> in fact in my prior installation when i click on f8 it could open a shell under the konq windows
[08:24] <hasan> now it does not and i cant find any link for doing that
[08:25] <stdin> hasan: is it not in the right-click menu, under actions?
[08:25] <jtrz> uboto correct
[08:26] <BlackNova> arun, http://i10.tinypic.com/67ed7xl.jpg
[08:27] <Mr_Sonoma> hasan, you are wanting to open a terminal? or file browser/web browser?
[08:31] <BlackNova> arun, di u see it ?
[08:35] <jtrz> how to install gkismet in 7.04?
[08:36] <dzero> one question how do i install nvidia drivers?
[08:36] <Roey> hey all
[08:36] <stdin> !nvidia | dzero
[08:36] <ubotu> dzero: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:36] <stdin> jtrz: probably by compiling it
[08:37] <jtrz> no configure file,explain briefly
[08:38] <jtrz> jump to make?
[08:38] <stdin> jtrz: there should be a "README" file
[08:38] <jtrz> thx
[08:39] <jtrz> the obvious
[08:41] <jtrz> thats got it
[08:44] <ksivaji> is there anyone using  quanta here ?
[08:46] <flyingtiger> i am not
[08:51] <BlackNova> hi, how can connect to internet via vmware ? I have installed vmware on Windows XP
[08:52] <stdin> BlackNova: looked at the VMware forums?
[08:53] <BlackNova> a little, but did not found anything useful
[08:53] <flyingtiger> isn't this a linux forum?
[08:54] <underdog5004> indeed
[08:54] <Mr_Sonoma> yes it is
[08:54] <flyingtiger> why are we being asked questions about MS?
[08:55] <Mr_Sonoma> just a guess but maybe you should ask your vmware question in #vmware...they may know more about it
[08:57] <stdin> BlackNova: have you set the right network interface? i.e: NAT
[08:58] <BlackNova> stdin, yes, i use NAT
[08:59] <BlackNova> stdin, but i dont know whick ip,subnetmask,dhcp shoul i use
[08:59] <stdin> I think you also need to install some TUN driver too
[08:59] <stdin> what product/version of vmware ?
[09:00] <BlackNova> workstation ace 6
[09:02] <BlackNova> stdin, ?
[09:02] <flyingtiger> BlackNova: check this web page, http://www.vmware.com/support/reference/win/connex_share_w2k.html for setting up vmware on Windows
[09:03] <BlackNova> thx
[09:03] <flyingtiger> yw
[09:08] <ksivaji> stdin hi
[09:08] <stdin> hi ksivaji
[09:08] <ksivaji> how to remove a package along with config files
[09:09] <stdin> ksivaji: apt-get --purge remove package
[09:09] <stdin> ksivaji: or aptitude purge package, which ever you want :)
[09:10] <ksivaji> apt-get remove --purge package is same as apt-get --purge remove package is it ?
[09:11] <stdin> yeah, both should work
[09:11] <stdin> --purge will only remove system config files, so any in $HOME will have to be manually removed
[09:15] <thomas_tmc> hi
[09:17] <thomas_tmc> having trouble changing default sound card
[09:17] <thomas_tmc> asoundconf didnt work
[09:17] <thomas_tmc> now it only shows the original default in list
[09:18] <stdin> thomas_tmc: use "aplay -l" to get the name of the card you want to be default, then use "asoundconf set-default-card NameOfCard" to change it to the card you want
[09:19] <thomas_tmc> i used asoundconf set-default-card Audigy with no luck
[09:19] <stdin> did you logout and back in after you did that command?
[09:20] <thomas_tmc> yes, i restarted
[09:20] <thomas_tmc> i tried editing alsa-base
[09:20] <thomas_tmc> no luck, switched back to original
[09:21] <thomas_tmc> now only the original default shows in asoundconf list
[09:21] <stdin> hmm
[09:21] <thomas_tmc> i've restarted several times
[09:21] <thomas_tmc> and used update-modules
[09:21] <thomas_tmc> still won't show
[09:22] <dzero> i have a problem installing nvidia drivers =/
[09:23] <stdin> thomas_tmc: not sure then, I only have on card. you could try asking in #alsa maybe
[09:23] <thomas_tmc> right on, thanks
[09:24] <Mr_Sonoma> dzero what exactly is your problem?
[09:24] <dzero> can i copy it here?
[09:24] <dzero> cause there are many lines =/
[09:24] <Mr_Sonoma> !pastebin | dzero
[09:24] <ubotu> dzero: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:25] <dzero> sorry i didnt see that
[09:25] <dzero> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31771/
[09:28] <dzero> so
[09:28] <dzero> xd
[09:28] <dzero> i run this command
[09:28] <dzero> root@linux:/home/dzero# sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run
[09:28] <jbrouhard> !kwallet
[09:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kwallet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:28] <stdin> dzero: use the packages from ubuntu, not the one from nvidia.com
[09:28] <jbrouhard> bah
[09:28] <stdin> !nvidia | dzero
[09:28] <ubotu> dzero: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:28] <jbrouhard> Anyone know how to completely disable kwallet ?  It's annoying the crap outta me
[09:29] <dzero> i saw the ubotu
[09:29] <dzero> but i dont know a lot of english to read them =/
[09:29] <dzero> i speak spanish ..
[09:29] <stdin> dzero: well, there is a spanish channel
[09:29] <stdin> !es
[09:29] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:29] <jbrouhard> heh
[09:29] <dzero> oh ok
[09:29] <dzero> =P
[09:29] <dzero> thanks
[09:30] <dzero> lol
[09:30] <dzero> that is a bot?
[09:30] <jbrouhard> How do I disable kwallet completely, or is that impossible ?
[09:30] <stdin> !bot
[09:30] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:30] <dzero> lol
[09:30] <stdin> jbrouhard: not sure, try asking in #kde or on of the kubuntu devs in #kubuntu-devs
[09:32] <dzero> who know how to put off the X server?
[09:32] <Mr_Sonoma> have you tried going into the kwallet setup and deselecting enable kde wallet sub systems jbrouhard
[09:32] <jbrouhard> Mr_Sonoma: i can't even find the kwallet set up in Feisty ...
[09:33] <Mr_Sonoma> jbrouhard, do you have a open wallet in your system tray now?
[09:33] <jbrouhard> no
[09:33] <stdin> dzero: like i said, DO NOT use the nvidia.com driver, if you don't know how to stop the X server, then you won't know how to maintain the driver. use the ubuntu packages
[09:33] <dzero> ok
[09:33] <dzero> i fouynd the
[09:34] <dzero> ubuntu packages
[09:34] <dzero> i will send u a screen
[09:34] <jbrouhard> lemme see what I can do about kwallet..
[09:34] <jbrouhard> i think i got it
[09:34] <jbrouhard> thanks for reminding me :)
[09:35] <Mr_Sonoma> hmmm im looking for where else you could do it. i know if you have an open wallet you can right click on the icon in the sys tray and select configure wallet
[09:36] <stdin> dzero: what card do you have?
[09:37] <dzero> GeForce FX 5200
[09:38] <stdin> dzero: ok, close adept, open konsole and put in "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" then do "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[09:38] <dzero> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]  (rev a1)
[09:38] <dzero> ok
[09:40] <dzero> just 4 mb O.o?
[09:41] <stdin> yeah
[09:41] <dzero> it isnt more easier do "sudo su" and then u can write all commands without "sudo" at the first?
[09:42] <stdin> dzero: no, it'd be easier to do "sudo -i", but there there are only 2 commands, no point in doing either
[09:43] <dzero> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31772/
[09:43] <dzero> it is installed? o.o'
[09:44] <stdin> dzero: yeah
[09:44] <dzero> YEI
[09:44] <holycow> is gksudo related to a particular desktop environment ... ie kde?
[09:44] <holycow> err gnome
[09:44] <dzero> i need to restart or smthing?
[09:45] <stdin> dzero: yeah, if you don't see X after you restart, and you only have text login. boot into recovery mode and run " cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf " that will restore it
[09:46] <dzero> ok i will copy the commands
[09:46] <stdin> dzero: that's if it dose not work
[09:46] <stdin> dzero: don't do it yet
[09:46] <dzero> yes
[09:46] <stdin> holycow: well, gksudo is written in GTK, kdesu is written in Qt
[09:46] <dzero> i know
[09:47] <dzero> i will make it if later of the restart i have only the login box [first rr and restore] 
[09:47] <holycow> aha!
[09:47] <holycow> ithought so, thank you
[09:48] <punto> wtf is 'artsd'? it's using all of my cpu
[09:48] <stdin> don't know, artsd is the sound server
[09:48] <dzero> i will restart
[09:48] <dzero> cya later =)
[09:49] <stdin> ok :)
[09:49] <punto> I keep killing it and it comes back
[09:49] <stdin> punto: yes, because it's the sound server, it starts when a sound plays in KDE
[09:50] <punto> there's nothing playing sound as far as I know
[09:50] <punto> still, it should need 100% of the cpu to play sound
[09:50] <stdin> it should settle down after a while
[09:51] <dzero> it worked
[09:51] <dzero> i think =)
[09:52] <punto> yeah, it settled once I did 'chmod 0 /usr/bin/artsd'
[09:52] <stdin> punto: not the best idea
[09:53] <Kr4t05> This is what happens when you apply the mentality of a Windows-user to Linux.
[09:53] <Kr4t05> "Well, it doesn't work... So, rather then spend the time actually troubleshooting it, I'll just keep it from running all together."
[09:54] <Kr4t05> Good luck with that...
[09:54] <punto> actually I went to the kde menu and checkd some option to stop running the sound server, but it kept running
[10:00] <_beata_> I say, 'Oy'.
[10:01] <stdin> O_o
[10:01] <_beata_> I'm having trouble with firefox on my Feisty workstation.
[10:02] <stdin> define "trouble"
[10:03] <dzero> apt-get install firefox
[10:03] <dzero> easy =P
[10:10] <arun> um when i run kgmailnotifier from the terminal, it exits after i close konsole. is there any way to run it without the konsole always open
[10:11] <stdin> arun: run it from the "Run Command" dialog or from the KMenu
[10:11] <arun> stdin: how do i run it from the kmenu
[10:12] <stdin> arun: there should be an entry in there
[10:12] <arun> nope
[10:12] <arun> i'll just install kcheckgmail instead
[10:13] <stdin> arun: you can just make an entry
[10:16] <arun> stdin: please tell me how?
[10:17] <stdin> arun: right click the KMenu icon, click Menu Editor, click the section you want it in and go to File  New Item
[10:19] <arun> thanks, works
[10:20] <arun> the script doesn't seem to be working though.. it says 'connection failed'
[10:21] <arun> oh works now after i typed that
[10:21] <arun> ha
[10:27] <arun> stdin: which windeco do you use?
[10:27] <stdin> right now I'm just using kwin
[10:30] <arun> no i mean what window decoration theme?
[10:31] <stdin> Plastic
[10:31] <stdin> *PlastiK
[10:38] <ksivaji>  how to restore the default setting of a package (quanta)
[10:40] <Mr_Sonoma> how would i access another computer on my network from konsole?
[10:41] <stdin> ksivaji: remove the users settings, probably in ~/.quanta (or something)
[10:41] <stdin> Mr_Sonoma: access how?
[10:41] <ksivaji> ok
[10:41] <Mr_Sonoma> access the hd
[10:42] <Mr_Sonoma> do i need to do a remote login or something?
[10:42] <stdin> Mr_Sonoma: depends on how you want to access it. (samba/ssh/nfs/http/ftp,etc)
[10:43] <Mr_Sonoma> secure shell would work
[10:44] <stdin> you'd have to have the other computer running sshd
[10:47] <Mr_Sonoma> ok
[10:50] <stdin> Mr_Sonoma: you could install the sshd server on the other PC and then "mount" the server with the package "sshfs" (with fuse), it's nice and secure too :)
[10:51] <Mr_Sonoma> alright i'll google on that and play with it. if i have more questions i'll be back =)
[10:51] <Mr_Sonoma> thanks
[11:06] <luca> hi everyone
[11:06] <pag> hello
[11:06] <luca> I am reconfiguring my xorg file and I have some doubts about the mouse section
[11:06] <luca> as I have a touchpad
[11:06] <luca> can someone help me please?
[11:08] <stdin> luca: you can select anything there, the touchpad will be just "detected"
[11:24] <backtick> hi all, i installed the packages of kde 4 alpha 2 and am trying to setup a full session.. i followed the instructihttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha2.php but startkde failes with ".: 85: Can't open /home/backtick/.kde4/share/config/startupconfig"ons at
[11:24] <backtick> ** followed the instructions at
[11:24] <backtick> any idea what startupconfig is?
[11:25] <stdin> backtick: best place to ask is #kubuntu-devel
[11:25] <backtick> ok thanks
[11:30] <Lupo> ciao
[11:45] <ScarFreewill> if I click to install speedcrunch it says breakinstall
[11:47] <vzduch> ?
[11:48] <ScarFreewill> !info speedcrunch
[11:48] <ubotu> speedcrunch: high precision calculator. In component main, is optional. Version 0.7~beta2-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 202 kB, installed size 672 kB
[11:54] <wepiha> Hi there. for an unknown reason the 'Current Local Timezone has changed from 'Pacific/NZ' to 'America/New York'. even trying to change this using the kcmshell kde-clock.desktop command the setting remains the same
[11:55] <stdin> wepiha: tried "sudo tzselect" ?
[11:56] <wepiha> stdin: no change to the kde-clock
[11:56] <adenicio> stdin: do u know how to make kubuntu stop asking for your password?it's a kind of anoying
[11:57] <stdin> wepiha: hmm, is the clock wrong?
[11:57] <stdin> adenicio: you mean for admin tasks ?
[11:57] <adenicio> stdin: yes
[11:57] <wepiha> stdin: if I run `date` I get 'Sun Jul 29 05:56:50 EDT 2007' -- this should be more like 'Sun Jul 29 21:56:50 NZST 2007'
[11:58] <wepiha> really strange :s
[11:58] <adenicio> stdin: they say u could modifie the txt passw but i cant even open it
[11:59] <stdin> wepiha: hmm
[12:00] <wepiha> stdin: indeed. my initial thoughts were kde-clocks ability to display other timezones... alas it seems the local timezone has been overridden elsewhere...
[12:01] <stdin> wepiha: what does "cat /etc/timezone" say?
[12:02] <wepiha> stdin: 'Pacific/Auckland%'
[12:03] <wepiha> stdin: I might try something I learnt in windoze land... reboot.
[12:03] <stdin> it may work, who knows :p
[12:04] <Prophezy> !network
[12:04] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:08] <wepiha> stdin: woop woop all normal
[12:09] <stdin> heh, well as long as it works :)
[12:09] <wepiha> stdin: thanls. now all I need to do is discover why beryl no longer works... heh
[12:10] <stdin> good luck with that :P
[12:13] <Prophezy> hmm... its seems, that wireless installation on kubuntus is hard :(
[12:13] <MaTiAz> !nvidia
[12:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:15] <adenicio> stdin: u know how to activat the universe etc?because i dont see adept on my feisty
[12:15] <pag> !universe | adenicio
[12:15] <ubotu> adenicio: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:16] <stdin> adenicio: it should be active already in feisty
[12:16] <arun> adenicio: what do you mean you don't see adept
[12:16] <adenicio> arun: i see only add/remove programme
[12:16] <adenicio> arun: is that it?
[12:17] <stdin> adenicio: it's in System -> Adept Manager
[12:18] <adenicio> stdin: lol i feel shame lol it got so many things i didnt see it
[12:18] <adenicio> :-P
[12:18] <stdin> :)
[12:20] <MaTiAz> I have a cool Intel Core 2 Duo sticker on my computer front panel now :D
[12:20] <BlackNova> hi, I have a problem with my DVD in kubuntu
[12:20] <arun> adenicio: you can launch programs just by pressing alt+space and typing a few letters of the program name
[12:21] <BlackNova> Kubuntu does not detect my DVD :(
[12:21] <adenicio> BlackNova: maybe because your dvd sucks :-P JOKIN
[12:23] <adenicio> BlackNova: DID u go to disk & filesystem?
[12:23] <adenicio> BlackNova: to see if it there?
[12:24] <adenicio> arun: sick i didnt know that
[12:25] <BlackNova> whan i mount it to another folder it works ! but /media/cdrom0 does not work !!!
[12:25] <stdin> BlackNova: what's the error?
[12:26] <BlackNova> there no error
[12:26] <BlackNova> it dows not show the files on the DVD
[12:27] <stdin> BlackNova: have you tried mounting it manually, "mount /media/cdrom0" and check for errors?
[12:29] <BlackNova> yes, when i do that it works well
[12:29] <BlackNova> but i dont want to do that
[12:30] <BlackNova> why it doesnt work Automatically ?
[12:30] <runlevelten> OK, this is an extremely bizarre experience. I put Life Of Brian on, and it's all in Deutsch.
[12:30] <stdin> BlackNova: no clue, that's the command the system runs
[12:33] <vzduch> runlevelten: better switch the language then, the German synchronization is essentially cr*p ;)
[12:34] <runlevelten> Yeah I know.. couldn't help watching it for a bit though.
[12:37] <adenicio> runlevelten: wa is life of brian? a game?if yes?is it good?
[12:38] <stdin> adenicio: http://imdb.com/title/tt0079470/
[12:38] <adenicio> stdin: where do u see where to activat universe multiverse?
[12:39] <stdin> adenicio: in Adept, go to File -> Manage Repositories
[12:43] <adenicio> stdin: ok now how do i add to my source list?
[12:43] <adenicio> links
[12:43] <stdin> adenicio: go to the 3rd party tab and add them tere
[12:46] <adenicio> i did that  it went so fast i didnt even know if it work
[12:46] <stdin> if you don't see errors then it worked
[12:47] <arun> :)
[12:48] <BlackNova> how can i install Kubuntu DVD programs ?
[12:50] <[1] BlackNova> sorry
[12:51] <adenicio> stdin: how do u modify source list manualy i enter a wrong thing now it giving me errors
[12:51] <stdin> adenicio: press Alt-F2 and type in: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:54] <Prophezy> hmm... where can i see, why my network program don starts?
[12:54] <Prophezy> i click on it, but nothing happens
[12:54] <adenicio> stdin: ok
[12:56] <adenicio> stdin: it look like u know a lot of tings u know how to install vlc the easy way?im on there website i just find the prob i had with my conection y i coulndt surf.now i can but i dont understand much about this add line to source list to use vlc etc
[12:57] <adenicio> http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html
[12:57] <vzduch> adenicio: sudo apt-get install vlc
[12:58] <MaTiAz> Hey, do the current nvidia drivers work fine with 8800 series?
[12:58] <vzduch> no need to add an extra line to the sources for that
[01:00] <Prophezy> !sql
[01:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sql - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:00] <Prophezy> !PSQL
[01:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about psql - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <stdin> adenicio: sudo apt-get install vlc
[01:01] <RurouniJ> Howdy all, don't suppose anyone knows of any FTPS site on the net? (I was thinking maybe one of the kubuntu distro sites...)
[01:01] <stdin> adenicio: the package is in the repositories already
[01:01] <adenicio> stdin: ???wa is the dif with admin and sudo
[01:01] <ledemente> Hi, I'm attempting to set up the KTorrent Web Control plugin - but I encountered this error: Php executable isn't in default path, please enter the path manually
[01:02] <stdin> adenicio: there isn't one, sudo gives you admin rights
[01:02] <adenicio> ok
[01:03] <stdin> ledemente: you need to installed php4 probably (or maybe php5)
[01:04] <ledemente> I have.
[01:04] <ledemente> Unless the problem is PHP5 (perhaps it thinks it should be PHP4?)
[01:05] <stdin> ledemente: it should work with both
[01:05] <stdin> maybe it's looking for /usr/bin/php
[01:05] <ledemente> No such file.
[01:08] <stdin> ledemente: try "ln -s /usr/bin/php5 /usr/bin/php"
[01:08] <backtick> ledemente: php5 installs a /usr/bin/php as well
[01:08] <backtick> try "--reinstall"ing it
[01:09] <ledemente> There is no folder under bin with the string "php" in it.
[01:09] <stdin> it's not a folder
[01:09] <backtick> try $ whereis php
[01:09] <ledemente> Sorry, I meant to type file
[01:09] <Ace2016> locate php?
[01:10] <ledemente> waaah!
[01:10] <ledemente> It's there now.
[01:10] <Ace2016> or go into synaptic and right click on it and look at the files installed
[01:10] <backtick> Ace2016: the apt:/ kio is faster for such task
[01:11] <backtick> try apt:/search?php in konqueror
[01:11] <backtick> (apt:/show?php5 will show the package)
[01:12] <Ace2016> backtick: yes your right, its is much better, thanks
[01:12] <ledemente> I found it. But it doesn't seem to be what Ktorrent was looking for.
[01:12] <tfreire> hi all, I am looking for some advice... I want to install apache FOP on kubuntu, but looks like it's not on the official repositories. is there an alternative?
[01:12] <tfreire> not counting installing by hand, of course
[01:12] <ledemente> FOP?
[01:13] <tfreire> I will install if I have to, but if someone has it prepackaged...
[01:13] <Ace2016> backtick: how do i get it to install from apt:/
[01:13] <backtick> AFAIK, you can't, I use apt-get in a terminal
[01:14] <Ace2016> :/
[01:14] <Ace2016> that sucks! someone went to all the trouble of creating this and didn't link it with apt??? why on earth not!
[01:14] <backtick> the kio needs a few improvements indeed
[01:14] <Ace2016> it could have been useful as a package manager because the layout is sooo much better than all other package managers
[01:15] <ledemente> backtick: /usr/X11R6/bin/php /usr/bin/X11/php and /usr/bin/php don't seem to work...
[01:15] <tfreire> it's a xsl-fo parser, it can output in html, pdf rtf, xml, txt...
[01:15] <backtick> the trick is finding what ktorrent is looking for
[01:15] <tfreire> part of the apache foundation XML stuff
[01:15] <ledemente> I realised that.
[01:16] <Ace2016> what does ktorrent want with php?
[01:16] <ledemente> It's a web interface plugin.
[01:16] <Ace2016> ok i use azureus for everything torrent related
[01:16] <ledemente> Designed to allow me to control my downloads from over the Interwebs. : )
[01:17] <ledemente> Ace2016: great...
[01:17] <Ace2016> its taking ages to copy 56gb :(
[01:18] <backtick> ledemente: seems like a bug in ktorrent http://ktorrent.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1704&highlight=php+web
[01:18] <arun> ledemente: somewhat like the utorrent web function?
[01:18] <Ace2016> i wish one hard drive manufacturor would just forget about increasing space and go for speed!
[01:18] <ledemente> arun: um, yeah.
[01:19] <arun> ledemente: nice
[01:19] <backtick> Ace2016: google for "hdparm"
[01:20] <balint> hi, I've a question: why can't i switch to tty1 then back to x? if i press ctrl+alt+f1, it works fine, i can login, etc. but if i would like to change back to x (ctrl+alt+f7), the display is gone, no screen. how can i fix it? (it was the same problem @ suse, now kubuntu)
[01:20] <Ace2016> backtick: done all the tweaks already, doesn't help when the disk that is reading is an old slow drive
[01:20] <backtick> i see
[01:20] <ledemente> arun: yeah, it's going to be pretty useful... if it works -___-
[01:21] <backtick> balint: sometimes it's on f9..
[01:22] <Ace2016> hold ctrl + alt and then keep pressing all the F keys from 1 to 12
[01:22] <Ace2016> then you'll find it for sure or realise its broken, either way mystery sovled
[01:23] <balint> backtick, yeah, but if i'm in ctrl+alt+f1, if i press ctrl+alt+f7, screen is gone, i can't get back even to tty1
[01:23] <balint> backtick, i think this would be a bug or something (i had the some problem is opensuse aswell)
[01:23] <backtick> balint: do you release the crtl + alt  keys each time you switch?
[01:24] <balint> backtick, yep ;)
[01:24] <balint> i can switching between f1-f6 i guess, but if f7, then it's gone. nothing to do (the system is running, because i can restart it with ctrl+alt+del, but no display/screen)
[01:25] <Ace2016> balint: try without releasing, and if you get stuck in tty, try loggin in, then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart see if that works, but it will kill your session
[01:25] <Ace2016> "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[01:26] <balint> Ace2016, i'll give a change to it
[01:27] <marckie> hello!
[01:27] <marckie> !ntfs
[01:27] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:27] <marckie> !fuse
[01:27] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[01:29] <marckie> how do we read and write in NTFS partition?
[01:29] <rotem> hello, i'm having trouble installing a lexmark printer no kubuntu can anyone help me?
[01:30] <llutz> !ntfs-5 | marckie
[01:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-5 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:30] <llutz> !ntfs-3 | marckie
[01:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:30] <balint_> back
[01:30] <balint_> it doesn't working
[01:30] <llutz> !ntfs-3g | marckie
[01:30] <ubotu> marckie: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[01:30] <marckie> I see...
[01:30] <marckie> Will try to adept that.
[01:30] <adenicio> stop playing with the bot
[01:31] <balint_> Ace2016, it still doesn't working
[01:31] <carbon_monoxide> Hi
[01:31] <balint_> Ace2016, the screen is frozen if i try to change back to F7, and i tried the kde-restarting, but dunno i was successfull or not
[01:32] <carbon_monoxide> I have installed a new libasound2.deb which requires libc6 2.5-5
[01:32] <carbon_monoxide> but I'm using Feisty
[01:33] <carbon_monoxide> now I got dependency problem and have no sound
[01:33] <carbon_monoxide> how can I install elder libsound2 package?
[01:33] <stdin> !info libsound2
[01:33] <ubotu> Package libsound2 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[01:33] <stdin> carbon_monoxide: what's the package name?
[01:34] <stdin> carbon_monoxide: you mean libasound2 ?
[01:34] <carbon_monoxide> stdin: libasound2_1.0.14-1ubuntu5_i386.deb
[01:34] <carbon_monoxide> stdin: ya I got typing mistakes, sorry
[01:35] <ledemente> backtick: am I to assume it simply does not work?
[01:35] <stdin> carbon_monoxide: fesist version is 1.0.13-1ubuntu5, so "sudo apt-get install libasound2=1.0.13-1ubuntu5" should work
[01:36] <carbon_monoxide> stdin: thanks a lot!
[01:36] <stdin> carbon_monoxide: no problem
[01:36] <carbon_monoxide> stdin: does apt-get autoclean work if I want remove the libasound2 package I had installed?
[01:37] <stdin> carbon_monoxide: no, autoclean only handles the apt cache, in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[01:38] <stdin> carbon_monoxide: unless you added a repo to your sources.list and installed with that
[01:38] <backtick> ledemente: well i just tried it, and it works fine!!
[01:38] <ledemente> Bah!
[01:39] <ledemente> I'm running Ubuntu, not Kubuntu... but it shouldn't make a difference.
[01:39] <backtick> try reinstalling php
[01:39] <backtick> $ sudo apt-get install php5 --reinstall
[01:40] <Ace2016> give up and use azureus
[01:41] <venom> bonjour
[01:41] <Ace2016> hi
[01:42] <venom> ya po une liste d' irc ??
[01:42] <pag> !fr | venom
[01:42] <ubotu> venom: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:44] <Ace2016> !mp3
[01:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:48] <Ace2016> i found this if you want to run a php server which manages your torrents http://www.torrentflux.com/
[01:48] <carbon_monoxide> stdin: thanks alot!
[01:55] <Ace2016> its strange how much performance suffers without the nvidia driver
[01:56] <yeniklasor> I opened knotes, and select from tray minimine all notes, then my windows crashed. Windows don't have any button(close,minimize) and title now. How can I restart it without closing sessision?
[01:57] <stdin> yeniklasor: were you using compiz/beryl?
[01:57] <yeniklasor> no it is fresh install
[01:57] <yeniklasor> didnt install anything
[01:58] <lazz0> yeniklasor,ctrl+backspace?
[01:58] <stdin> yeniklasor: ok, try pressing alt-f2 and type in "kwin --replace" (without quotes)
[01:58] <yeniklasor> it is closing sessision :(
[01:58] <yeniklasor> ok
[01:58] <backtick> Ace2016: because the rendering gets done by "software" not on card ..
[01:58] <yeniklasor> alt-f2 not responding
[01:59] <stdin> hmm
[01:59] <yeniklasor> is it ctrl alt f2 ?
[01:59] <stdin> yeniklasor: no, can you open konsole?
[01:59] <yeniklasor> yes
[01:59] <yeniklasor> ok trying it
[01:59] <Ace2016> backtick: well could the software hurry it up a bit?
[02:00] <yeniklasor> stdin : oh thanks life saver it worked
[02:00] <stdin> :)
[02:00] <Ace2016> cpu isn't even maxed :?
[02:00] <Ace2016> how do i increase the framerate?
[02:00] <backtick> Ace2016: : it's subject to scheduling, cpu/memory availability, etc
[02:00] <backtick> the card has it's own GPU and memory
[02:01] <backtick> and the official driver makes most of them
[02:01] <Ace2016> ok i'll install the nvidia driver
[02:01] <Ace2016> i'm using nv at the mo
[02:02] <backtick> i hate that blob driver too (being propreitary and so,) but unfortunately it's the only option for me now
[02:04] <kaminix> Anyone know if the Network Manager has improved in the new Ubuntu? The wifi part.
[02:05] <stdin> kaminix: which "new ubuntu" feisty or gutsy?
[02:06] <kaminix> The comming one, Gutsy?
[02:06] <stdin> it's mostly the same, so far. still uses networkmanager
[02:07] <kaminix> A newer version perhaps?
[02:07] <stdin> !info knetworkmanager
[02:07] <ubotu> knetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu12 (feisty), package size 232 kB, installed size 1496 kB
[02:07] <stdin> 1:0.2~r686534-0ubuntu1 in gutsy
[02:08] <kaminix> Maybe some improvements then. :)
[02:08] <ledemente> Okay, I just moved a downloaded after it was finished and deleted some extra files I didn't need and Ktorrent DELETED the WHOLE THING.
[02:09] <MaTiAz> lol
[02:09] <ledemente> chutup. It's not funny. :'(
[02:09] <MaTiAz> Sorry, I couldn't resist
[02:09] <MaTiAz> But I feel your pain, same thing has happened to me too
[02:09] <MaTiAz> Not on ktorrent though
[02:10] <marckie> I dont use Ktorrent
[02:10] <marckie> I use Azureus...
[02:10] <ledemente> ...
[02:10] <ledemente> GREAAAT!
[02:10] <marckie> Its much better... IMHO
[02:10] <ledemente> That fixes everything.
[02:11] <adenicio> stdin: i got the vlc up an running.but only vlc plays my video n mp3 etc.how do i get amerok an kaffein to play the same extention?
[02:11] <ledemente> MaTiAz: *hug*
[02:11] <stdin> adenicio: you need "libxine-extracodecs" to play mp3 in amarok
[02:12] <Admiral_Chicago> marckie: azureus is a p2p client, ktorrent used the bit torrent protocol
[02:12] <marckie> azureus uses torrent too...
[02:12] <MaTiAz> Meh, I should install Kubuntu on this new machine but I can't be arsed right now lol
[02:12] <marckie> actually its torrent and not p2p
[02:13] <Admiral_Chicago> marckie: you are correct, i've been up all night and not thinking...
[02:13] <MaTiAz> :)
[02:13] <marckie> no probz admiral...
[02:13] <marckie> i use azureus as its much cleaner and easier to use.
[02:13] <adenicio> stdin: how do u aply the change in adept for the libxine-extracodecs to install?
[02:14] <marckie> it also gives you the option to see the download bar of 1 or more of your downloads...
[02:14] <stdin> adenicio: press apply
[02:15] <adenicio> stdin: befor it wasnt highlighted it playing games with me
[02:15] <marckie> does anybody here uses beryl?
[02:15] <attunix> if i download kde 4 alpha and install it, could i select kde 3 from the "sessions" menu?
[02:15] <attunix> marckie: #beryl or #ubuntu-effects could help you :)
[02:15] <backtick> attunix: yes you can
[02:15] <attunix> backtick: thanks :)
[02:15] <stdin> attunix: I assume you mean "select kde 4 from the "sessions" menu" ?
[02:16] <backtick> he ran away because i link him/her to the instructions
[02:16] <marckie> i thought it was pre installed in Feisty?
[02:16] <simplex> hi
[02:16] <marckie> hi simplex
[02:16] <marckie> i thought it was pre installed in Feisty?
[02:17] <simplex> is there anyone knows how i could install new applications to kubuntu ?
[02:17] <marckie> the beryl thing?
[02:17] <backtick> marckie: it's compize, and in ubuntu not kubuntu (i think)
[02:17] <backtick> s/compize/compiz
[02:17] <marckie> so that's why...
[02:17] <marckie> I was wondering why i dont have beryl
[02:17] <backtick> you can still install it though
[02:17] <thoreauputic> marckie: beryl is in the feisty repos
[02:17] <stdin> simplex: KMenu > System > Adept Manager
[02:18] <marckie> Ok...
[02:18] <backtick> or $ sudo apt-get install beryl-kde
[02:18] <marckie> well has anybody used it (beryl) already?
[02:18] <marckie> coz I have it installed in OpenSuse but it wqas crappy...
[02:18] <backtick> marckie: i did for sometime
[02:18] <MaTiAz> Works fine
[02:18] <marckie> I hope its not in Kubuntu...
[02:18] <backtick> not much ram so, so i disabled it
[02:18] <marckie> how much does it need?
[02:19] <backtick> i don't remember really
[02:19] <marckie> I see...
[02:19] <marckie> Thanks for the infor still
[02:19] <marckie> information that is...
[02:19] <backtick> np
[02:19] <marckie> ty
[02:20] <marckie> Im waiting for my updates to finish...
[02:20] <MaTiAz> I ran beryl fine with 1GB of RAM (400MHz DDR) and Geforce 6200
[02:20] <MaTiAz> Well
[02:20] <marckie> Ill be installing the nvidia driver next...
[02:20] <marckie> Wow! Nice Video Card
[02:20] <MaTiAz> The GFX card was so horrible that a few windows with wobbly windows on made it cough :|
[02:20] <marckie> Is it stable?
[02:21] <MaTiAz> Yeah
[02:21] <MaTiAz> But Geforce 6200 is probably the cheapest video card you can find nowadays, so it's not nice
[02:21] <MaTiAz> But I have a 8800GTS now :D
[02:21] <marckie> Well here in my place its still not that cheap..
[02:22] <lparry> I have had compiz fusion working reasonably okay on a geforce go 5200 (64mb) ram, without wobbly windows
[02:22] <lparry> but suffer from the black window bug
[02:22] <marckie> Anyhows, how bout Karamba?
[02:23] <lparry> Karamba?
[02:23] <lparry> what about it?
[02:23] <marckie> Have you used it as well?
[02:23] <marckie> I wanna try these out in my Kubuntu...
[02:23] <MaTiAz> I tested Karamba once, it was ok
[02:23] <marckie> Im afraid I might stumble mid way...
[02:23] <MaTiAz> Runs fine of course
[02:24] <marckie> Ahhh... Ok that's 2 down...
[02:24] <marckie> Lastly, what Dock do you use?
[02:24] <lparry> Karamba, I don't use it not into all that widget stuff
[02:24] <lparry> ...until plasma comes :P
[02:24] <marckie> I tried Kib-dock...
[02:25] <marckie> But it was so...so...so... unstable in my System so I dropped it...
[02:25] <attunix> feisty-backports is the kde 4 package, right?
[02:25] <marckie> What's Plasma?
[02:25] <lparry> the big thing for kde 4
[02:25] <marckie> I see...
[02:25] <marckie> I'll check that out..
[02:25] <lparry> basically manages all the desktop stuff, from taskbar to applets and desktop
[02:26] <fubaki> hey guys! if i want to switch into the "Monitor & Display" configuration in the system settings it crashes (signal 11)
[02:26] <lparry> have a look at some of the screencasts, progress is going very well
[02:26] <attunix> I'm trying to upgrade to KDE 4 alpha, but I need help. I'm in http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha2.php
[02:26] <stdin> attunix: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha2.php
[02:26] <attunix> stdin: i'm there :P
[02:26] <stdin> attunix: heh :p
[02:26] <stdin> attunix: what's the problem ?
[02:27] <fubaki> there's something with "libXrandr" or something else in the backtrace, any ideas?
[02:27] <attunix> stdin: i'm confused as to whether feisty-backports is the package i should be installing or if it's kde4base-dev :S
[02:27] <stdin> attunix: feisty-backports is the repository, not the package
[02:28] <attunix> stdin: i see. i've already enabled that. what packages should i be isntalling?
[02:28] <stdin> attunix: like it says, kde4base-dev
[02:28] <attunix> ok
[02:29] <attunix> stdin: then i'll be able to switch back and forth between KDE 3 and 4, right?
[02:30] <stdin> attunix: almost, you'll have to copy and edit one of the files first.
[02:30] <AlwaysConfused56> anybody heard whats up with openoffice i can't get it to run anymore
[02:30] <attunix> stdin: what files?
[02:30] <stdin> attunix: the one it says on the instructions
[02:30] <attunix> ok
[02:30] <vzduch> AlwaysConfused56: what should be up w/ it?
[02:31] <stdin> attunix: as a warning, KDE4 isn't exactly usable right now
[02:31] <attunix> what do you mean? "not exactly usable"? :P
[02:31] <attunix> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/lib
[02:31] <attunix> export KDEDIR=/usr/lib/kde4
[02:31] <attunix> export PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/bin/:$PATH       <<<Should I run these in terminal?
[02:31] <AlwaysConfused56> it loads the splash screen the bar go's across then just stops at the end it was working last week?
[02:32] <attunix> AlwaysConfused56: you could try using KOffice :) it has more features
[02:32] <stdin> attunix: well, it's not really usable, you'll see, just follow the instructions
[02:32] <attunix> ok... :P
[02:32] <attunix> stdin:
[02:32] <attunix> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/lib
[02:32] <attunix> export KDEDIR=/usr/lib/kde4
[02:32] <attunix> export PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/bin/:$PATH       <<<Should I run these in terminal?
[02:32] <AlwaysConfused56> will that write excell format
[02:33] <lparry> attunix: why have you installed kde4, on the base filesystem?
[02:33] <stdin> attunix: where else :p yes, in konsole
[02:33] <attunix> AlwaysConfused56: I believe so.
[02:33] <lparry> or did you use a package?
[02:33] <AlwaysConfused56> kool i'll try that
[02:33] <attunix> lparry: package
[02:33] <lparry> ah right, that's fine
[02:33] <stdin> lparry: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha2.php
[02:33] <vzduch> attunix: to my knowledge KOffice's ODF support is still _very_ buggy.. at least w/ 1.5.x I couldn't get my OTT files (letter templates) to open w/ KOffice
[02:33] <wonko__> oh noes! i think i encountered a circular dependency. apt keeps having problems installing/configuring these three packages: acpid, acpi-support, powermanagement-interface.
[02:34] <attunix> can i just directly upgrade to gutsy? :S
[02:34] <attunix> before release?
[02:34] <lparry> yeah the beta will be coming soon anyways, but sometime I need to come around to compiling it (just swtiched from gentoo)
[02:34] <stdin> attunix: you *can*, but that doesn't mean you should
[02:35] <attunix> :P
[02:36] <wonko__> if i want to "dpkg --configure acpid", it says "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1"
[02:37] <wonko__> probably not dependency problem, sry. can somebody help please?
[02:37] <wonko__> the others ( acpi-support and powermanagement-interface won't configure as they complain that acpid is not configured yet
[02:38] <Hirvinen> !away | backtick
[02:38] <ubotu> backtick: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[02:39] <attunix> Hirvinen how do you return from away?
[02:39] <stdin> attunix: /back
[02:39] <attunix> ok
[02:39] <Hirvinen> attunix: Usually in irc clients /away with no parameters ends the away.
[02:40] <adenicio> stdin: i install in adept 3ddesktop but how do i use it?and when adept finish download something an try to install it it give me an error around 16% but it still works,weird
[02:40] <attunix> /back
[02:40] <attunix> how do i return from away
[02:40] <attunix> yay!
[02:41] <attunix> i'm back! :D
[02:41] <stdin> attunix: i can't say about the error unless I know what it is, and I have never used 3ddesktop
[02:42] <backtick> thanks Hirvinen
[02:42] <stdin> opps
[02:42] <stdin> that's to adenicio
[02:42] <adenicio> stdin: ok
[02:43] <adenicio> stdin: i install 3dchess it's not in game
[02:44] <stdin> adenicio: try running "3dchess" from the Run Command dialog
[02:44] <attunix> i'm gonna try out kde 4 now.
[02:44] <attunix> cheerio!
[02:44] <stdin> adenicio: sometimes you need to logout and back it to see menu entrys
[02:44] <adenicio> stdin: ok
[02:46] <wonko__> ok, i found the fix
[02:46] <wonko__> i first killall'd hald, then /etc/init.d/acpid stop, and finally dpkg --configure -a
[02:47] <wonko__> as a mixture of two workarounds for this bug
[02:47] <wonko__> ...just in case someone in here has the same problem
[02:47] <attunix> I tried installing kde 4, but apparently nothing happpened :(
[02:47] <attunix> how can i just upgrade to gutsy?
[02:48] <stdin> attunix: elaborate on "nothing happened"
[02:48] <attunix> stdin: it's still kde3 nothing changed; konqueror is still the file manager, etc
[02:49] <stdin> attunix: yes? did you choose kde4?
[02:49] <attunix> stdin: in the login screen, i selected sessions and there was only "KDE" - no "KDE 4" or "KDE 3" (well, along with Gnome, failsafe terminal, etc.)
[02:50] <stdin> attunix: read the instructions
[02:50] <stdin> attunix: you need to MAKE the entry
[02:50] <attunix> oh. i see.
[02:50] <attunix> :P woopss
[02:52] <marckie> how do i edit grub?
[02:52] <arun> how do i connect to multiple servers using konversation?
[02:52] <Hobbsee> arun: hit f2
[02:52] <marckie> !grub
[02:52] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:52] <Hobbsee> marckie: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:52] <marckie> aren't there NY7 GUI?
[02:53] <marckie> I mean gui
[02:53] <stdin> Hobbsee: sources.list??
[02:53] <arun> Hobbsee: Nice
[02:53] <arun> I remember my Windows using days, when I had to open multiple mirc windows
[02:53] <marckie> can i change the background of grub as well?
[02:53] <Hobbsee> stdin: er, /boot/grub/menu.list, sorry
[02:54] <Hobbsee> marckie: apt-cache search grub splash
[02:55] <marckie> i see...
[02:55] <marckie> ty
[02:56] <attunix> How do I "edit the Name entry in kde4.desktop to be called "KDE 4", put the three export lines at the top of /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde and start a new session in KDM with KDE 4."?
[02:56] <Ace2016> marckie: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208855 ???
[02:57] <stdin> attunix: open the file and edit the "Name=" part
[02:58] <attunix> ok
[02:58] <sam1337>  when I start an opengl application such as ut2004, torcs and glxgears with compiz, nvidia driver and aiglx enabled the application crashes and restarts my x. does anybody know what the problem may be? I've already tried reinstalling my graphics driver.
[03:00] <attunix> stdin: where in startkde should ai put the three export lines?
[03:00] <attunix> before #!/bin/sh or after it?
[03:01] <stdin> attunix: after
[03:01] <marckie> !ntfs
[03:01] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:01] <attunix> stdin: immediately after, right?
[03:01] <attunix> i just wanna make sure :P
[03:02] <stdin> attunix: doesn't matter, after the "#DEFAULT KDE STARTUP SCRIPT ( KDE-3.91 )" part is fine
[03:02] <attunix> ok
[03:03] <attunix> do I put a space after the hash or not? #export..... vs. # export....
[03:03] <ekrengel> how do i install these splash themes?
[03:03] <ekrengel> in system settings it looks for a ksplash theme
[03:03] <ekrengel> and all i have is theme.rc files
[03:04] <stdin> attunix: you don't put a #
[03:04] <attunix> oh
[03:04] <attunix> ok
[03:04] <attunix> does this look good?:
[03:04] <attunix> #!/bin/sh
[03:04] <attunix> #
[03:04] <attunix> #  DEFAULT KDE STARTUP SCRIPT ( KDE-3.91 )
[03:04] <attunix> #
[03:04] <attunix> #
[03:04] <attunix> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/lib
[03:04] <attunix> export KDEDIR=/usr/lib/kde4
[03:04] <attunix> export PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/bin/:$PATH
[03:04] <attunix> # When the X server dies we get a HUP signal from xinit. We must ignore it
[03:04] <attunix> # because we still need to do some cleanup.
[03:04] <attunix> trap 'echo GOT SIGHUP' HUP
[03:04] <attunix> etc...etc....
[03:05] <stdin> !paste | attunix
[03:05] <ubotu> attunix: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:05] <attunix> sorry :S
[03:05] <stdin> attunix: and yes, that's ok
[03:05] <attunix> ok. thank you
[03:05] <Apollo1> In KDE: how come after setting _all_ fonts to font-size 14 or above in the system settings, there are still some programs whose fonts are way smaller than 12 pts??? How can I change this?
[03:05] <Ace2016> once you export something, how do you unexport them???
[03:05] <attunix> i'm gonna test kde 4 now. thanks for your help, stdin :)
[03:06] <stdin> Ace2016: export -n
[03:06] <RurouniJ> stdin: I am most impressed; you have the patience of a saint.
[03:06] <Ace2016> does the unexport everything?
[03:06] <stdin> RurouniJ: heh :)
[03:06] <Apollo1> Because it's hurting my eyes :(
[03:06] <stdin> Ace2016: you put the name of the variable after
[03:07] <stdin> Ace2016: you can also use "unset VARIABLE"
[03:07] <sam1337>  when I start an opengl application such as ut2004, torcs and glxgears with compiz, nvidia driver and aiglx enabled the application crashes and restarts my x. does anybody know what the problem may be? I've already tried reinstalling my graphics driver.
[03:08] <Ace2016> unset worked
[03:08] <backtick> grr not all kde 4 alpha 2 was packaged
[03:09] <backtick> okular and kdegraphics are outdated (alpha 1)
[03:09] <Ace2016> sam1337: logout, at the login screen press alt+n, then login at the konsole, run X & DISPLAY=:0 ut2004 play and when you finish run sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[03:10] <sam1337> Ace2016 I don't want to have to do that everytime I want to play the game
[03:10] <Ace2016> oh when you finish ut2004 you'll have to exit it and then press ctrl+shift+backspace
[03:11] <Ace2016> sam1337: thats what i have to, but i use xgl+beryl
[03:11] <sam1337> Ace2016 I know that my problem has a solution because I used to be able to play ut2004 before but now I can't a few months later
[03:12] <sam1337> Ace2016 im hoping that somebody could tell me something that's needed in my xorg.conf to fix it
[03:12] <sam1337> im googling like mad atm
[03:14] <attunix> i've done sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. how do i remove gnome and all the gnome apps?
[03:15] <stdin> attunix: try "sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop" or "sudo apt-get autoremove ubuntu-desktop"
[03:17] <attunix> stdin: thanks.
[03:17] <sam1337> removing ubuntu-desktop won't remove gnome
[03:18] <attunix> sam1337: how do i do it then?
[03:19] <sam1337> sudo apt-get remove whatever you want
[03:19] <attunix> ok
[03:19] <sam1337> you shouldn't of installed so much stuff if you didn't want it
[03:20] <martijn> how can i find out what wifi chip i got?
[03:20] <stdin> sam1337: that's what aptitude/autoremove do
[03:20] <stdin> martijn: lspci
[03:20] <sam1337> stdin I don't have ubuntu-desktop installed yet autoremove won't remove any of the gnome applications
[03:21] <sam1337> I don't have any of the *-desktop packages installed
[03:21] <stdin> sam1337: does aptitude ?
[03:21] <martijn> stdin: ethernet controller or network controller?
[03:22] <stdin> martijn: umm, could be either
[03:22] <sam1337> does apt what?
[03:23] <stdin> sam1337: aptitude, you can't be 1337 if you don't know aptitude :p
[03:23] <martijn> damn, wifi worked some kernel version ago, but since some months it failed to connect
[03:23] <sam1337> I know aptitude
[03:24] <sam1337> you asked me 'does aptitude?'
[03:24] <sam1337> I only picked 1337 because sam gave me name stealing messages or somnething
[03:24] <sam1337> so I picked the first thing that came to my head
[03:25] <stdin> sam1337: "<sam1337> stdin I don't have ubuntu-desktop installed yet autoremove won't remove any of the gnome applications" "<stdin> does aptitude" "<sam1337> does apt what?"
[03:26] <sam1337> I like 2 abb things
[03:26] <sam1337> I can't seem to get opengl applications such as ut2004 and glxgears to work with compiz fusion :(
[03:27] <backtick> sam1337: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[03:28] <arun> my kwin crashed
[03:28] <arun> i didnt know it could do that
[03:29] <backtick> it should restart itself automatically
[03:29] <arunkale> no i had to restart x
[03:29] <sam1337> kwin --replace should bring it back
[03:30] <arunkale> how was i supposed to type kwin --replace
[03:30] <arunkale> none of the keyboard shortcuts were working
[03:30] <arunkale> and i couldn't type anything
[03:30] <stdin> arunkale: was the kmenu there ?
[03:31] <arunkale> stdin: nope
[03:32] <stdin> then it wasn't just kwin that crashed
[03:32] <sam1337> the whole of kde crashed?
[03:32] <stdin> well the kmenu is in kicker
[03:32] <stdin> so at least kwin and kicker both crashed
[03:33] <sam1337> kicked and kwin crashed at the exact same time.... how odd
[03:33] <backtick> Ace2016: http://lpnotfr.free.fr/kde-apt.shtml .. read the bottom section
[03:37] <Ace2016> no just kicker crashed
[03:37] <Ace2016> i found out what did it in the end
[03:37] <Ace2016> it was kbfx, removing it fixed the problem
[03:37] <Ace2016> i later installed an older version to get around this, it was very annoying!
[03:46] <arunkale> save the cheerleader
[03:46] <savetheWorld> she's safe thanks.. :-)
[03:46] <stdin> huh?
[03:47] <arunkale> :)
[03:47] <stdin> mmmmk :p
[03:47] <arunkale> anyone here tried out parallels for linux?
[03:56] <combo> hi, can some1 help with    http://wklej.org/id/a3ede15529    when i'm trying to run any program via Console i'm getting THAT information ?! how can fix it ?
[03:57] <pag> !baddevice | combo
[03:57] <ubotu> combo: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[03:58] <combo> ubotu: thanks a lot ;)
[03:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks a lot ;) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <pag> !botsnack
[03:58] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[03:58] <pag> combo, ubotu's a bot ;)
[03:58] <combo> pag, i can see it now ;P
[03:59] <combo> hehe
[03:59] <combo> i was just wondering - how ubotu can write so fast on keyboard :D
[03:59] <combo> but he knows very much :)
[04:08] <BluesKaj> howdy all :)
[04:11] <arunkale> does anyone here use adobe illustrator?
[04:11] <Roey> gnomefreak:  ok then... so I'll remove this repo from my sources.list
[04:11] <Roey> gnomefreak:  at any rate, thank you again so much
[04:23] <scott__> can someone help me with beryl... i keep getting "No GLXFBConfig for Depth 32"
[04:24] <sveweck> Hi. When I plug in my external USB HDD, KDE pops up a "now what?" dialog where I choose "open". Then nothing happens. Any hints?
[04:24] <sveweck> (I didn't have luck with manual mounting either, as I don't know which device file I need. sda* don't seem to be it)
[04:25] <scott__> check dmesg when you plug it in
[04:27] <scott__> can anyone help me with beryl... i'm getting "No GLXFBConfig for Depth 32" and the top of the window dissapears
[04:27] <jacob> i'm new to linux, can somebody teach me how to install quicktime4linux-2.0.0-src.tar.bz2?
[04:28] <jacob> can somebody tell me what to do to install quicktime4linux-2.0.0-src.tar.bz2
[04:28] <sveweck> scott__: thanks :) turned out it's sdb1 - now mounted successfully. Any idea why KDE's way doesn't work anyway?
[04:29] <Ace2016> jacob: are you trying to watch a quicktime file?
[04:29] <sveweck> scott__: try #compiz-fusion
[04:29] <scott__> ive never tried mounting a harddrive i just know how to find that info out cause i always do that with my ipod
[04:29] <jacob> i want to see movie trailers with firefox at trailers.apple.com
[04:30] <arunkale> jacob: you dont need quicktime for that
[04:30] <scott__> try just downloading them and run it in mplayer
[04:30] <arunkale> just install mplayer-plugin
[04:31] <jacob> how do i install mplayer-plugin?
[04:31] <jacob> apt-get install mplayer?
[04:31] <arunkale> no no
[04:31] <sveweck> scott__: ok, thanks
[04:31] <ele>  http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/2650/kubuntublackwhitepi0.jpg  nice :=)
[04:31] <arunkale> jacob: go to adept and search for mozilla-mplayer
[04:31] <Ace2016> jacob: sudo apt-get install synaptic, then Alt+f2 and run kdesu synaptic, then search and install what you want :)
[04:31] <arunkale> alternatively you can apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[04:32] <nico_> hello
[04:32] <jacob> let me try doing it the way arunkale does it, it seems shorter
[04:32] <arunkale> jacob: works for me
[04:33] <jacob> do i need to restart my browser?
[04:33] <Ace2016> jacob: well my way you can search for stuff without knowing the package name, like flash
[04:33] <arunkale> jacob: after it's installed, yes
[04:33] <arunkale> jacob: don't install synaptic, you already have adept installed
[04:33] <sc0tch> if knetworkmanager does not show a wpa option under 'use encryption' is that a driver issue? I can manually connect to a wpa network with ipwriv/iwconfig, just not with knetworkmanager. (in ubuntu fiesty with 3.5.6 kde, 0.1 network manager)
[04:33] <jacob> so how does the plugin works
[04:33] <jacob> just play a quicktime trailer from the site and it automatically works?
[04:34] <arunkale> jacob yes
[04:34] <arunkale> it will be embedded on the page
[04:34] <jacob> ok thanks, i'll let you know if it works
[04:34] <arunkale> sure
[04:35] <jacob> thank alot
[04:35] <jacob> it works, i'll just add that install command into my command file list and save it to use it in the future
[04:38] <jacob> well it works in the movie trailers but it doesn't seem to be working on this site.............
[04:38] <arunkale> great, jacob
[04:38] <arunkale> which site?
[04:38] <jacob> i don't suspect it's the player but the site i guess
[04:38] <jacob> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/mars/program.html
[04:38] <jacob> select any chapter from the site and select quicktime
[04:39] <jacob> there is an alternative way by using realplayer but i like quicktime better, its sharper
[04:41] <jacob> thx arunkale
[04:42] <arunkale> jacob: no problem
[04:43] <jacob> well it also plays realplayer files
[04:43] <philo23> hi guys, i'm having some samba problems, could any would help?
[04:43] <jacob> if i have both realplayer and mplayer, will there be any intereracne
[04:43] <jacob> interferance?
[04:44] <jacob> it doesn't seem to be working in the site, it used to play realplayer
[04:44] <jacob> but now it doesnt play at all
[04:47] <jacob> how do i uninstall realplayer?
[04:47] <jacob> and helix?
[04:49] <pag> jacob, depends... how did you install them?
[05:04] <sveweck> Hey, how do I check the FS type of a mounted partition?
[05:04] <sveweck> nevermind
[05:04] <sveweck> :)
[05:04] <ardchoille> sveweck: mount ?
[05:05] <sveweck> ardchoille: no, /etc/mtab
[05:05] <arunkale> fsck it
[05:05] <sveweck> right thanks
[05:06] <ardchoille> mount should tell you the type
[05:06] <LeeJunFan> you can check for errors, but you shouldn't fix errors on a mounted partition. you'll want to boot into single mode.
[05:07] <LeeJunFan> !fsck
[05:07] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[05:07] <sveweck> ardchoille: kay, nice, but I already saw it in /etc/mtab :-)
[05:07] <arunkale> um something  weird is happening.. if i ctrl z in kate, it prints the letter z
[05:07] <arunkale> it doesnt undo
[05:08] <ardchoille> arunkale: What happens if you ctrl+n ?
[05:08] <sveweck> arunkale: check if this shortcut's been changed (settings->configure shortcuts)
[05:08] <arunkale> same with ctrl n and v
[05:08] <arunkale> and c
[05:08] <arunkale> no shortcut is correct
[05:08] <ardchoille> arunkale: Seems kate isn't recognising your ctrl key
[05:08] <jonathon> daft thought, but have you tried the right ctrl?
[05:08] <arunkale> it's not just in kate
[05:09] <arunkale> it's in everything
[05:09] <arunkale> i cant copy paste files either
[05:09] <arunkale> and i cant do it using the middle mouse button also
[05:09] <arunkale> aaaaaa
[05:09] <arunkale> what's happening
[05:09] <arunkale> i cant even select multiple files with shift or ctrl
[05:10] <runlevelten> arunkale: sounds like one of your modifier keys is stuck
[05:10] <arunkale> have i activated something like sticky keys or something like that
[05:10] <arunkale> i cant even enable caps lock
[05:10] <arunkale> 4243sdfi-30] 2rqoi\
[05:11] <sveweck> Hmm, /etc/mtab says my external HDD is mounted rw, but any attempt to write to it ends with "permission denied", even as root. What could be the reason?
[05:11] <arunkale> sorry about that
[05:11] <LeeJunFan> sveweck: check /proc/mounts and see if the kernel actually says it's mounted rw.
[05:12] <runlevelten> arunkale: check the keys and connection physically
[05:12] <gnomefreak> Roey: are you still here?
[05:12] <arunkale> let me try restarting x
[05:12] <Roey> gnomefreak:  yes
[05:12] <hak_> How can I record video from my usb 2.0 webcam?
[05:13] <gnomefreak> Roey: does flash work for you now from feisty-proposed repos?
[05:13] <Roey> gnomefreak:  yes
[05:13] <sveweck> LeeJunFan: no, it says ro. but I mounted with `mount -w /dev/sdb1 /media/external/` - and I do have ntfs-3g installed. so...?
[05:13] <Roey> yes it doe
[05:13] <Roey> s
[05:13] <LeeJunFan> hak_: I like using ffmpeg for that, I think VLC can do that for you as well, to a number of different formats.
[05:13] <gnomefreak> Roey: can you please comment on bug 125986 that it wokrs
[05:13] <gnomefreak> works
[05:13] <gnomefreak> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/125986  Roey
[05:14] <LeeJunFan> sveweck: try sudo mount -oremount,rw /dev/sdb1
[05:14] <gnomefreak> i need a few confirms and than i should have no issue getting it into the updates repo
[05:14] <hak_> which shell command with ffmpeg ?
[05:14] <LeeJunFan> sveweck: oh, ntfs-3g, hrm, that's probably different.
[05:14] <Roey> gnomefreak:  thanks!!!!
[05:14] <LeeJunFan> sveweck: well, no - try that mount, it may do it.
[05:14] <Roey> gnomefreak:  so it'll get moved out of -proposed, then?
[05:15] <Roey> gnomefreak:  also, what did you think of that proposal to update the md5sum periodically
[05:15] <gnomefreak> Roey: yw  i need a couple of people to confirm it than i can ping archive admins about it
[05:15] <sveweck> LeeJunFan: tried it, /proc/mounts still says ro
[05:15] <gnomefreak> Roey: we were waiting on that with this version due to alot of regressions that needed to be fixed
[05:15] <Roey> gnomefreak:  cool, thanks John :)
[05:15] <LeeJunFan> hak_: look under EXAMPLES in man ffmpeg
[05:15] <Roey> ah
[05:15] <gnomefreak> Roey: anytime :)
[05:16] <Roey> gnomefreak:  so I'm drilling into that list of issues I made yesterday when I installed Kubuntu and am well into finishing it
[05:16] <Roey> gnomefreak:  I can post it up on the Forums if it'd help anyone (with supplemental files and configurations, too)
[05:16] <gnomefreak> Roey: good :)
[05:17] <gnomefreak> right now im tied up with a few packages im trying to get into gutsy
[05:17] <gnomefreak> flash happened to be one i had to get updated bug info
[05:17] <sveweck> LeeJunFan: thanks anyway.
[05:18] <LeeJunFan> sveweck: I dunno, this is all I use to mount my ntfs, sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/30GWIN
[05:18] <Roey> aye, thanks
[05:18] <LeeJunFan> sveweck: and it mounts rw for me.
[05:18] <arun> looks like restarting x fixed it
[05:20] <sveweck> LeeJunFan: says NTFS log file is unclean, I'll boot into Windows now to get that fixed. thx.
[05:20] <LeeJunFan> sveweck: ah, must need to fix the fs.
[05:21] <sveweck> yep
[05:21] <LeeJunFan> sveweck: I think you can do that from linux if you install ntfsprogs, you can fsck it.
[05:24] <Karti> !pgp
[05:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pgp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:24] <Karti> Hi all, any ideas where I can create a PGP  key and upload it for use for me and friends?
[05:26] <LeeJunFan> !security | Karti
[05:26] <ubotu> Karti: If you feel the need to adopt security measures for your system, check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security - See also !root, !firewall and !server
[05:26] <jacob> pag: "jacob , depends... how did you install them"
[05:26] <LeeJunFan> Karti: check out the gpg section.
[05:26] <jacob> are you still there pag?
[05:26] <pag> jacob, yup.
[05:26] <Karti> LeeJunFan: Just spotted it. Many thanks
[05:27] <jacob> ok, so i need some help remove real player
[05:27] <jacob> pag, let me show you how i installed it
[05:27] <jacob> give me a sec as i look for the page
[05:28] <jacob> this is how i installed it
[05:28] <jacob> i put ....
[05:28] <jacob> chmod +x RealPlayer10Gold.bin in the terminal
[05:28] <jacob> and then i put
[05:28] <jacob> sudo ./RealPlayer10Gold.bin
[05:29] <jacob> don't worry about helix cause i already uninstalled it
[05:29] <jacob> i just need help removing real player
[05:29] <jacob> i got the commands from this site....
[05:29] <jacob> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[05:29] <pag> jacob, .bin's are tricky.. ty running that same thing again and see if they have an 'uninstall' option
[05:29] <philo23> hey guys, any ideas any ideas why samba doesnt seem to work?
[05:30] <pag> !doesntwork | philo23
[05:30] <ubotu> philo23: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[05:30] <jacob> but running the same thing will install the real player software all over again
[05:30] <jacob> i don't know how to see if there is a removal option
[05:31] <philo23> well it seems to not authenticate when i try to connect to it from my pc
[05:31] <pag> jacob, did it just install or did it provide some kind of (graphical) installation dialog?
[05:31] <jacob> i installed from the two commands i just sent you that i got from this site http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[05:31] <philo23> it just fails what ever username/password combo i try
[05:32] <jacob> pag i put in chmod +x RealPlayer10Gold.bin
[05:32] <pag> !samba | philo23, see the docs, the mihg help
[05:32] <ubotu> philo23, see the docs, the mihg help: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:32] <jacob> pag: and ./RealPlayer10Gold.bin
[05:32] <pag> jacob, I know what you did, I'm asking what dit it do *after* you hit enter
[05:33] <jacob> i don't remember, let me run the commands again, you want me to run the commands again?
[05:33] <pag> jacob, yeah.. it shouldn't do any more harm
[05:35] <jacob> pag, be a little patient i need to redownload the file, will take a few secs on broadband connection
[05:36] <mumificirani> !telnet
[05:36] <ubotu> telnet is not safe. Please use ssh instead. See !ssh
[05:36] <mumificirani> !ssh
[05:36] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[05:38] <jacob> ok pag
[05:39] <jacob> it says Welcome to the realplayer setup for unix
[05:39] <jacob> setup will help you get realplayer runnign on your computer
[05:39] <jacob> press enter to continue
[05:39] <curtis_> hello everyone!
[05:39] <jacob> press enter?
[05:39] <jacob> pag?
[05:40] <curtis_> am wondering how can i listen to WMA files on ubuntu! i tried it in both gxine as well as VLC and even downloaded all the requireed codes.. but the probs stays.. the player plays it but i cant hear anything..
[05:40] <pag> jacob, mm... try following installation, and see if it offers an uninstallation option at some pont
[05:40] <claudio> ciao
[05:40] <claudio> hello
[05:40] <pag> curtis_, w32codecs too?
[05:40] <curtis_> pag yes
[05:40] <pag> curtis_, are those files protected with DRM?
[05:40] <curtis_> w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386
[05:41] <jacob> it's asking me a question i don't know how to answer pag
[05:41] <curtis_> pag well they were ripped of an audio cd on xp.. and now im on linux (i have dual boot) i cant seem to play them
[05:41] <jacob> it syas configure system-wide symbolic links?
[05:41] <jacob> yes or no
[05:41] <jacob> i'm pressing yes
[05:41] <pag> jacob, don't they are useless at this point
[05:41] <jacob> i mean no
[05:41] <_tobias> hi, when idle my some process does constant short and very audible hd-accesses roughly every second. any idea how i can find out which process is causing this?
[05:42] <jacob> no uninstallation option
[05:42] <jacob> i pressed no and it started tp  install
[05:42] <jacob> i just basically reinstalled it
[05:42] <pag> jacob, hey wait! you didn't put sudo infront of the command, did you?
[05:42] <curtis_> pag: so wht do u think my prob is!
[05:43] <jacob> yes
[05:43] <jacob> i put sudo
[05:43] <Prophezy> anyone that know how to config the wireless ???
[05:44] <Mr_Sonoma> having problems with one of my computers not accessing the net through my network. can ping the router from both computers and can ping the other computer from both computers, both computers are running fiesty and the networking interfaces appear to be set up the same. suggestions??? where to look next?
[05:44] <jacob> pag, i found a site you might find useful
[05:44] <jacob> https://player.helixcommunity.org/2005/help/playerfaq.html#mozTocId185549
[05:44] <jacob> scroll all the way down and read the last question
[05:45] <pag> jacob, there's a uninstaller script - try that
[05:46] <pag> curtis_, sorry, I don't know.. .wma is by itself pretty buggy, and WMP might have also added DRM to it, which messes things up even more
[05:46] <pag> !wireless | Prophezy
[05:46] <ubotu> Prophezy: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:46] <Prophezy> thanks pag :)
[05:46] <jacob> it syas "could not open "uninsht.""
[05:47] <jacob> archive type no supported
[05:47] <pag> Mr_Sonoma, hmm... and can you ping ie. google.com
[05:47] <Mr_Sonoma> i had not tried pinging google
[05:47] <Mr_Sonoma> but thats the webpage im using as a test to see if i can download a page
[05:48] <curtis_> pag:  thank you i found its solution:)
[05:48] <curtis_> thanks for helping out
[05:48] <pag> jacob, right click on it, choose "save as" (depends on your browser, but you know what I mean) and save it to your home directory
[05:48] <Mr_Sonoma> unknown host http://www.google.com
[05:49] <melkor> morning
[05:49] <jacob> pag:done
[05:49] <pag> jacob, afterward open konsole and doo the following: chmod +x uninstall.sh && sudo ./uninstall.sh
[05:49] <jacob> well i'm actually using ubuntu
[05:49] <pag> melkor, good $timeOfTheDay to you too :)
[05:49] <pag> jacob, then open terminal - commands are the same
[05:49] <melkor> I'm running kubuntu, and I'm doing some javascripting, and it works great on mozilla, and konqueror, how do I debug it for ie
[05:50] <BetaTester> Hi all. I was wondering if someone is having an intel dualcore KUbuntu PC without ECC with uptime more than 7 days?
[05:50] <jacob> pag: sign in as root?
[05:50] <pag> jacob, use sudo - it's safer
[05:52] <jacob> ./uninst.sh: 51: Syntax error: Bad substitution
[05:52] <jacob> the first command worked
[05:52] <jacob> but the second gave me that error
[05:52] <pag> great. so their own script does not work.
[05:52] <dr_willis> you might want to check the script and see if its calling /bin/sh or /bin/bash, if its using 'sh' you may want to change it to 'bash'
[05:52] <dr_willis> its possible its a Dash vs Bash issue.
[05:55] <Daisuke_Ido> bad substitution is the same thing unreal tournament was throwing at me.  exchanging dash for bash worked great
[05:55] <jacob> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/35708-uninstall-realplayer-10-a.html
[05:57] <kraut> moin
[05:57] <jacob> pag you still ther
[05:57] <jacob> ...?
[05:58] <pag> jacob, just do as dr_willis told you to - open th script in gedit (you're using gnome, right?) and change at the first line /bin/sh to /bin/bash
[05:58] <jacob> i found a site that looks pretty good
[05:58] <jacob> http://lists.helixcommunity.org/pipermail/player-users/2005-June/000400.html
[05:59] <dr_willis> assuming of course they dont use commands like 'sh somthing' inside the script. :)
[05:59] <jacob> now save it?
[05:59] <pag> dr_willis, btw do you have any idea why sh was linked to dash?
[05:59] <pag> jacob, yeah
[05:59] <dr_willis> well if you edit somthing... yes - you do want to save it.
[06:00] <dr_willis> pag,  'speed' and reliability,. :)
[06:00] <Daisuke_Ido> sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash
[06:00] <dr_willis> there was a HUGE argument/thread on the dash vs bash debate when it was done.
[06:00] <Daisuke_Ido> :)
[06:00] <jacob> ok i saved it
[06:00] <dr_willis> dash is the 'system shell'  - bash when called as 'sh' is Supposed tobe 'posix compliant' the problem is - BASH is NOT.
[06:00] <harmental> hey guys....do you use an antivirus for Linux? which one?
[06:00] <dr_willis> Bash has had this 'bug' for years and years..  its just now showing its head. :)
[06:01] <dr_willis> harmental,  theres very little need for one to scan the linux box. The anti-virus software out for linux. scans for WINDOWS viruses in files
[06:01] <jacob> pag: i just saved the file, what now?
[06:01] <pag> jacob, now just run it  sudo ./uninstall.sh
[06:01] <Daisuke_Ido> harmental: viruses for linux are like girls on the internet...  there's like...  3
[06:01] <dr_willis> Daisuke_Ido,  and they all want YOU! :)
[06:01] <dr_willis> I cant even name 1 virus.
[06:01] <Daisuke_Ido> neither can i, it just sounded good :)
[06:01] <harmental> Daisuke_Ido: great comparison!
[06:01] <jacob> pag: ERROR: /home/jacob/./uninst.sh is not a <UNINST_DIR>!
[06:02] <harmental> what do you think about this article then: http://www.maximumpc.com/article/protect_your_linux_box_from_viruses
[06:02] <pag> ok... what does that script want now :-/  jacob, wait a second, I'll try to see how does taht cript work
[06:02] <Daisuke_Ido> i think maximumpc makes its money on sensationalism and making something out of nothing.
[06:03] <dr_willis> 'microsoft beat linux in china' -  http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/07/28/1816203&from=rss
[06:03] <hak_> How can I record video from my usb 2.0 webcam. It is supporting V4L2
[06:03] <dr_willis> Hmm...  some of the comments are actually insightfull. :)
[06:03] <harmental> Daisuke_Ido: ok...thank you!
[06:03] <dr_willis> MaximimPc is rather.. minimal in real info - i find
[06:04] <soulrider> hello everyone :)
[06:04] <pag> jacob, ok.. try that command: ./uninstall.sh -l /usr
[06:04] <soulrider> dr_willis, Daisuke_Ido, i cant name a linux virus either
[06:04] <jacob> ok
[06:05] <Daisuke_Ido> harmental: the last commenter on that article has it spot on
[06:05] <dr_willis> all the 'viruses' ive heard mentioned . exploit the varoius services.. not 'linux' per se.
[06:05] <jacob> ah ok, i think in know what to do
[06:06] <dr_willis> its not a linux hack , it was a dns hack, or a bind issue. or a apache issue... ect...
[06:06] <jacob> well a little
[06:06] <jacob> which option should i take
[06:06] <Daisuke_Ido> that's because "linux" isn't an OS, it's a kernel :P  but yes, i know what you mean
[06:06] <dr_willis> While it is true that there are very few significant viruses that target Linux today, the plain fact is that these threats do exist, and they're far more likely to infect an unprotected PC than one that's running an antivirus app
[06:06] <dr_willis> they dont NAME ANY either....
[06:06] <jacob> Force-remove all files including those installed to shared directories.
[06:06] <xeniter> hi
[06:06] <dr_willis> in that artical...
[06:07] <xeniter> linux4ever^^
[06:07] <xeniter> i have a question
[06:07] <Daisuke_Ido> dr_willis: like i said, that last comment on that article has the right idea
[06:07] <Daisuke_Ido> xeniter: we have answers... sometimes
[06:07] <jacob>  Guess and uninstall all found installations.
[06:07] <dr_willis> It will, however, detect macro viruses that may infect office documents,
[06:07] <jacob> or
[06:07] <xeniter> what is the different between native and binary programs?
[06:07] <dr_willis> hmm.. is a 'macro virus' really a virus?  :)
[06:07] <jacob_> guys i need help quick. i cant install firefox on kubuntu
[06:08] <pag> jacob, wow... try that "guess" -option
[06:08] <jacob>  List all player installation found without actually performing uninstallation.
[06:08] <pag> jacob_, sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox  :)
[06:09] <dr_willis> But whatever you do, please don't keep spreading the unhelpful rumor that Linux is virus-free.
[06:09] <bharath> is there a non-GUI version of wireshark (ethereal)?
[06:09] <dr_willis> and yet.. i still cant find any....
[06:09] <bharath> i'm trying to use it's services in a script
[06:09] <xeniter> @jacob try this in console: sudo apt-get install firefox
[06:10] <jacob> i have firefox already
[06:10] <jacob> Usage: uninst [-f]  [-a]  [-l]  [-h]  [<UNINST_DIR>] 
[06:11] <jacob> pag, i'm new to linux just to let you know
[06:11] <jacob> where it says [<uninst_dir>] 
[06:11] <jacob> how do i put that?
[06:11] <pag> jacob, try  sudo ./uninstall.sh -a /usr
[06:12] <dr_willis> I rember why i always suggest people install games and other 'non-ubuntu' programs in their own home dirs. Not system wide
[06:12] <dr_willis> If he knows where the game dir is at.. he could just delete it? :)
[06:12] <jacob> it's not working
[06:13] <pag> jacob, how about /opt instead of /usr
[06:14] <jacob> Usage: uninst [-f]  [-a]  [-l]  [-h]  [<UNINST_DIR>] 
[06:14] <jacob>  -a: Guess and uninstall all found installations.
[06:14] <dr_willis> [<UNINST_DIR>]    is saying  use the 'path to the uninstall dir'
[06:14] <jacob> i don't know what to type in next
[06:14] <dr_willis> im not even sure what we are trying to do here. :)
[06:14] <jacob> uninst -a [then the directory] 
[06:15] <jacob> but i don't know what to put in the directory
[06:15] <dr_willis> uninst -a /the/path/to/whjever
[06:15] <dr_willis> thats when ya gotta rember where you installed to i guess.
[06:15] <dr_willis> of course if ya knew where the game installed to.. you could just go delete that dir
[06:16] <pag> dr_willis, we're trying to remove RealPlayer if it helps
[06:16] <jacob> i'm ganna put /home/jacob/FirefoxDownloads
[06:16] <jacob> doesn't go
[06:16] <jacob> i also put unist -a /home/jacob/FirefoxDownloads/RealPlayer
[06:18] <pag> jacob, try: sudo update-db && locate realplay
[06:18] <jacob> sudo: update-db: command not found
[06:19] <pag> oh.. updatedb  it was
[06:20] <jacob> what is that command for?
[06:20] <jacob> my computer seems to be loading put no output is shown
[06:21] <pag> jacob, it updates the file-location database
[06:21] <jacob> it seems like is done
[06:21] <pag> jacob, ok, now locate realplay
[06:21] <jacob> how do i doo that?
[06:22] <jacob> cd /blah/blah/blah?
[06:22] <pag> jacob, that's a command by itself :)  just type locate realplay
[06:22] <jacob> ok a bunch of stuff is displayed what now
[06:22] <pag> !paste | jacob
[06:22] <ubotu> jacob: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:23] <pag> jacob, put everything there.
[06:25] <hak> Kopete can't lanch my usb webcam. Only showing a green screen. My webcam supporting v4l2. Working fine with Ekiga.
[06:25] <jacob> i posted it
[06:25] <pag> jacob, link to the post?
[06:25] <hak> Kopete can't lanch my usb webcam. Only showing a green screen. My webcam supporting v4l2. Working fine with Ekiga. Can you help to lanch on Kopete it.
[06:25] <rotem> I am using kubuntu 7.04 feisty, and i can't install new packages the adept maneger only shows the installed ones. how can i fix it?
[06:25] <pag> rotem, try " sudo apt-get update " in the konsole
[06:26] <MaTiAz> BTW, how does dual screen work in Kubuntu?
[06:26] <pag> MaTiAz, I've heard that with nvidia it works pretty well
[06:26] <MaTiAz> Ok, good :)
[06:27] <MaTiAz> I'm planning on buying a 20" widescreen LCD and making this old 19" as the second monitor
[06:27] <pag> jacob, try doing  ./uninstall.sh -a /usr/local/RealPlayer/
[06:28] <jacob> it just finished removing some files
[06:29] <pag> maybe it worked then?
[06:29] <rotem> i wrote it, but it didn't help
[06:29] <jacob> ok, the program doesn't exist anymore but the name is still listed in "sound and video" from the application meny
[06:29] <jacob> menu
[06:29] <pag> rotem, did it ouput any errors
[06:29] <rotem> no it did'nt
[06:30] <pag> jacob, ls /usr/bin |grep realplay
[06:30] <pag> rotem, ok.. try to press update within the adept
[06:31] <rotem> no errors but still didn't help
[06:31] <pag> rotem, ok.. file -> manage repositories  and make sure everything is enabled
[06:31] <jacob> ok
[06:31] <Semilios> hi
[06:32] <Semilios> Please help me to get the images from my digital camera downloaded
[06:32] <Semilios> I get an error using "digikam" and "konqueror"
[06:32] <pag> what kind of error, Semilios?
[06:33] <Semilios> pag, I'm going to reproduce the same error again
[06:33] <Semilios> gimme a moment pls
[06:33] <jacob> pag it seems that realplayer is uninstalled but the name still remanins the the applications menu in the sound and video section
[06:33] <jacob> how do i delete that from the list
[06:33] <hak111> kopete showing this for webcam. How can I fix it? http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5093/snapshot1yt7.png
[06:34] <Semilios> pag, still there?
[06:34] <pag> jacob, open " alacarte " and remove it from there  (or see if it's somewhere in $PATH variables and remove from there)
[06:34] <pag> Semilios, sure - where would I go :P
[06:35] <jacob> i don't know how to open alacarte
[06:35] <Semilios> pag, when I plug in the camera,  I get a window in konqueror asking me what I want to do.   So I clicked on "Open"  which forces konqueror to start
[06:35] <Daisuke_Ido> take the green felt out from in front of the lens
[06:35] <jacob> remember that i am using ubuntu
[06:35] <Semilios> pag, the error I get then (in konqueror) is:        "Could not read file Could not claim the USB device."
[06:35] <Semilios> pag, the address konqueror uses is:  "camera://USB PTP Class Camera@[usb:002,004] /"
[06:35] <Semilios> pag, now digikam .. gimme one more minute pls
[06:35] <pag> jacob, alacarte IS gnome programm ;)  alt+f2 and type alacarte and press enter
[06:35] <jhutchins> !webcam
[06:35] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:36] <jacob> lol, thx a lot
[06:36] <jacob> ...pag
[06:36] <pag> jacob, yeah np :)
[06:36] <arun> what's alacarte
[06:36] <pag> arun, menu editor
[06:37] <arun> ah
[06:38] <dr_willis> lets see.. got a 500gb hd to install linux on.. how to partitionit.
[06:38] <dr_willis> 100gb for / rest for /home perhaps. :)
[06:38] <rotem> pag, thanks it worked
[06:38] <arun> sounds good, dr_willis
[06:38] <pag> dr_willis, what will you do with 100GB for / ? :O
[06:39] <dr_willis> curently on a 40gb hd  and its / is almost full at 40gb >:)
[06:39] <dr_willis> of course thats also got a lot of MythTV files
[06:39] <Semilios> pag, digikam says:  "Connection Failed" as a title of the error-popup.   The message is:         "Failed to connect to camera. Please make sure its connected properly and turned on. Would you like to try again?"
[06:39] <Semilios> pag, the camera itself tells me "conntected to the pc"
[06:39] <pag> dr_willis, oh. ok :)
[06:39] <dr_willis> figured 100gb - would be rather long time in filling.
[06:39] <Semilios> its a HP Photosmart E 327
[06:39] <Semilios> @ pag
[06:40] <pag> !camera
[06:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about camera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:40] <dr_willis> backing stuff up now. Getting ready to reinstall.
[06:40] <arun> dr_willis: how much did it cost
[06:40] <dr_willis> 500gb on salw for $99
[06:41] <dr_willis> sale
[06:41] <dr_willis> got 1 ide, and one sata. :) 2 different sales on 2 different weeks
[06:41] <dr_willis> I should put them both in this box. :) 1TB.
[06:43] <runlevelten> !ptp
[06:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ptp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:43] <Semilios> pag?
[06:44] <pag> Semilios, I'm trying to google the problem up - no luck yet
[06:45] <pag> Semilios, add "  SYSFS{idVendor}=="03f0", SYSFS{idProduct}=="8b02", MODE="0660", GROUP="plugdev"  " to /etc/udev/rules.d/45-libgphoto2.rules
[06:46] <Semilios> and then, pag ?
[06:46] <pag> sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart
[06:47] <pag> and then just hope it works
[06:47] <Semilios> thank you
[06:47] <Semilios> lets try
[06:50] <attunix> Hi. I just installed KDE with "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop," but how do I remove GNOME and all the GNOME apps?
[06:51] <attunix> i already tried "sudo apt-get remove gnome", ".... ubuntu-desktop", and "sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop"
[06:51] <pag> attunix, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[06:51] <attunix> i just read that. should i do the third option?
[06:51] <Semilios> pag, it tries to connect for a longer time but the problem is the same
[06:52] <pag> Semilios, ok. I can't help then. sorry.
[06:52] <pag> attunix, yup.
[06:53] <attunix> sry; Kopete crashed
[06:53] <attunix> should I do the third option?
[06:53] <Semilios> Thank you anyway pag
[06:53] <attunix> pag: should I?
[06:53] <pag> attunix, yeah.. the one that begins with sudo apt-get remove alacarte...
[06:53] <attunix> ok. thanks :)
[06:56] <DerHorst> !?
[07:00] <ubuntu_> When Kubuntu 7.10 comes out with dolphin, will you be able to choose between the two?
[07:01] <pag> Sayers, sure.
[07:02] <Sayers> pag: Alright
[07:02] <pag> Sayers, you are able to do that even now
[07:08] <ekrengel> where do i adjust my power options
[07:08] <ekrengel> with the montior and stuff
[07:08] <ekrengel> ?
[07:09] <Dragnslcr> System Settings -> Monitor & Display
[07:09] <ekrengel> yeah i saw that...but i dont have that selected
[07:09] <ekrengel> and my monitor still turns off
[07:10] <ekrengel> i dont want it to turn off
[07:11] <Dragnslcr> I dunno then. Unless it's something in your BIOS maybe
[07:11] <ekrengel> hmmm
[07:11] <ekrengel> could be a i guess...,
[07:11] <ekrengel> what if i have dual monitor
[07:12] <ekrengel> and since it opens 2 x sessions
[07:12] <Ace2016> my monitor turns off when ut2004 starts in 800x600 mode
[07:12] <ekrengel> i have to configure it for the other x session maybe?
[07:12] <ekrengel> hmmm
[07:12] <ekrengel> its kinda hard to see settings on the tv
[07:12] <ekrengel> : P
[07:13] <Ace2016> lcd tv? or a crt
[07:16] <ekrengel> its  a tv
[07:34] <mm_202> Hi guys, I want to use NFS for my /home, but Im worried about my wireless laptop, what happens when I get away from the network.  Is there any programs out there that would let me be 'offline' and then when I get back online, it sync up to my nfs /home ?
[07:36] <loonytunz> is ip1700 canon printer supported
[07:38] <Biovore> loonytunz: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-PIXMA_iP1700
[07:40] <marcolecorse> hello
[07:40] <loonytunz> thank you Biovore!
[07:40] <marcolecorse> sa parle francais ici
[07:40] <pag> !fr
[07:40] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:41] <marcolecorse> thk
[07:48] <Geekosaur> Greetings and salutations, y'all.
[07:50] <Roey> Geekosaur:  nice nick :)
[07:50] <BluesKaj> greetings fellow canuckster :)
[07:54] <mneptok> , eh?
[07:54] <BluesKaj> jhutchins!
[07:54] <Geekosaur> Sorry, other system just went down...  Nick comes from faking employment in this biz since 1973 and the fact I live it.
[07:56] <dthacker> Geekosaur: thank you for making my 20 years in the biz feel small.  I'm still so young!!! ;)
[07:56] <jhutchins_lt> Howdy BluesKaj.
[07:56] <StoneNewt> it also has a pair of coil packs rather than a dizzy
[07:56] <StoneNewt> hu?
[07:56] <Geekosaur> No problem I live to serve (r)
[07:56] <BluesKaj> <---been faking employment for 8 yrs (retired...still dream about the job tho :(
[07:56] <dthacker> hehe
[07:56] <arun> what jobs that
[07:57] <Geekosaur> It was a good biz, but It seems to be spending too much time defining things and not enough doing things.
[07:57] <dthacker> arun:  I'm a BOFH/DBA/whatever else the boss wants.
[07:58] <arun> ah
[07:58] <arun> does anyone here use a fat32 formatted external hard drive?
[07:59] <Geekosaur> I spent many fun years as a BOFH - I was a valued member of the team (If they only knew).
[07:59] <Biovore> most people do unless they reformat it..
[08:00] <BluesKaj> WTH is BOFH ?
[08:00] <BluesKaj> some thing for hire i know that
[08:00] <Biovore> Bastard Operator From Hell (google it.. its a series of short stories about a sys admin)
[08:00] <Geekosaur> Bastar? operator from hell.
[08:00] <enoj_> How come when I try to remove apache2 by doing apt-get remove apache2 i asks if i only want to remove 86.0kB ?
[08:01] <Biovore> enoj_: try doing a purge of the package..
[08:01] <ufo123> how install wma codec?
[08:01] <_4strO> !codecs | ufo123
[08:01] <ubotu> ufo123: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:01] <enoj_> Biovore: same
[08:02] <_4strO> enoj_: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache*
[08:02] <Geekosaur> Apache2 itself is not that large.  It is all the add-ons that drive it up.
[08:03] <_4strO> anyway all are pretty light
[08:03] <_4strO> (in weight)
[08:03] <Biovore> enoj_: is /usr/sbin/apache2 still there?
[08:04] <enoj_> Biovore: yes
[08:04] <Geekosaur> We are all lightweights - Just ask anyone from Microsoft.
[08:04] <Biovore> enoj_: remove apache-common
[08:04] <_4strO> ^^
[08:04] <Biovore> apache2-common
[08:05] <enoj_> Biovore: not installed, according to apt ..i find this weird
[08:05] <BluesKaj> A friend inherited an old pc ...looks like an old P2mmx 233mhz or so with 128Mb Ram...which ubuntu would run ok on it ?
[08:06] <Biovore> BluesKaj: not really
[08:06] <_4strO> BluesKaj: xubuntu
[08:06] <enoj_> Biovore: but apache2.2-common was installed
[08:06] <Biovore> enoj_: ok.. not sure what apache version your running there..
[08:06] <BluesKaj> thx _4strO...gonna take a look
[08:07] <_4strO> BluesKaj: but dont attempt to read movies or somethings like that :p
[08:08] <intelikey> ok this makes absolutely no sense at all,  i just totally lost a peace of hardware between boots.   modem is not detectable,  worked fine for years.   all of a sudden it's not there....   but wait there's more.  i reached and turned the power off (yes with linux running) and back on.   the root fs showed as clean (that shouldn't be)  and the modem was detactable again.      </blinks>  ??? !
[08:08] <Biovore> enoj_: might also need to remove php5-common if you have php install as well..
[08:08] <Geekosaur> Well guys, it has been a slice, but I am off to play senior citizen.  Such is life.
[08:08] <Biovore> intelikey: internal or external...
[08:08] <intelikey> Biovore internal
[08:09] <Biovore> intelikey: Pop the card out and clean up the contacts..
[08:09] <intelikey> Biovore i don't think so.   something the kernel left in memory on reboot did it
[08:10] <jhutchins_lt> BluesKaj: I'd go with xubuntu.
[08:10] <jhutchins_lt> That's gonna be a real dog with any kind of GUI though.
[08:10] <jhutchins_lt> Make a great router.
[08:10] <arun> i was downloading a 23GB torrent, and it got stuck at 75% and wont budge. been stuck for the past few days. i don't even feel like deleting it because i've already downloaded so much. gah.
[08:11] <jhutchins_lt> intelikey: Welcome to the wonderful world of dynamic system configuration.
[08:11] <intelikey> Biovore and removing the card would fix it,  but not because the contacts were dirty  but because the code would be purged
[08:12] <intelikey> jhutchins_lt heh yeah but my system "isn't supposed to be dynamic"    ;/
[08:12] <Biovore> intelikey: possibly.. I know that sometimes the PCI/ISA slots can get kinda crappy over time..  The Gold is wore off and the base metal get oxidized.
[08:12] <intelikey> i'll have to look into the clean fs issue.  that should not have happened.
[08:12] <jhutchins_lt> intelikey: All the 'buntus are dynamic, detect and configure hardware at boot.
[08:13] <jhutchins_lt> intelikey: That's what makes things like dual sound cards such a pain.
[08:13] <jhutchins_lt> intelikey: Problems with network cards changing address, etc.
[08:13] <intelikey> Biovore yes if dirt were an issue i'd quite agree with you.   but that's not the case this time
[08:13] <intelikey> jhutchins_lt  yeah but this is not 'buntus
[08:14] <pteague> anybody know if there's a way to get amarok to play wma files?  or something that will convert them back & forth to an open format?  the issue is my "mp3 playing" phone that really only supports wmas
 intelikey: That's what makes things like dual sound cards such a pain. <-- like my logitech webcam with his soundcard embeed
[08:14] <_4strO> !codecs | pteague
[08:14] <ubotu> pteague: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:14] <enoj_> What's up with: Package libapache2-mod-php4 has no installation candidate ?
[08:15] <pteague> yes, thank you... i've already read those pages & they don't seem to say anything about wma files
[08:15] <Biovore> enoj_: php5?
[08:15] <jhutchins_lt> pteague: Then you're missing something.  Check the links from the Restricted Formats page.
[08:16] <enoj_> Biovore: what do you mean? i need php4, for obvious reasons (installing applications which are php4 only)
[08:16] <pteague> jhutchins> thanks, found it now :)
[08:16] <Biovore> enoj_: note sure.. install php4 then install libapache2-mod-php4..
[08:17] <intelikey> and what does midnight commander check on the internet when you start it up ?
[08:17] <Biovore> intelikey: It uploads you passwords file to some haxorz.. :-P j/k
[08:17] <intelikey> Biovore heh
[08:18] <intelikey> Biovore i'll dcc anyone that wants them my whole /etc   :)
[08:18] <dsmith_> ack...
[08:18] <enoj_> Biovore: get same error when trying to install ..
[08:18] <enoj_> E: Package php4 has no installation candidate
[08:20] <Biovore> there is not package called php4
[08:20] <Biovore> they just php
[08:20] <geeKISSexy> Hi!! Does anybody know how to install WebKit for KDE4 ?
[08:20] <intelikey> !info php4
[08:20] <ubotu> Package php4 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:20] <intelikey> !info php4 dapper
[08:20] <ubotu> php4: server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package). In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.4.2-1build1 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[08:21] <intelikey> was in dapper not in feisty
[08:21] <Biovore> !info php
[08:21] <ubotu> Package php does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:22] <Biovore> enoj_: Dosn't look like php4 is in feisty anymore..
[08:23] <Biovore> I think the feisty php5 implemenation comes with php4 compatablility
[08:23] <Biovore> most php4 stuff works on php5
[08:23] <enoj_> Biovore: hm.. seems like a pretty dramatic thing to do, but ok.. i'll check it out
[08:23] <Dragnslcr> And the fact that PHP5 is several years old now
[08:24] <Dragnslcr> And PHP4 is pretty close to end-of-life
[08:25] <AndyCR> network-manager hates my wifi card, so I'm trying to use iwconfig etc, but it's on a wpa secured connection. how do I use wpa supplicant with iwconfig?
[08:25] <jhutchins_lt> I think this is what you were looking for:
[08:25] <jhutchins_lt> !find php
[08:25] <ubotu> Found: dh-make-php, egroupware-phpbrain, egroupware-phpsysinfo, gphpedit, htcheck-php (and 166 others)
[08:26] <intelikey> EOL is a joke,   they call it EOL when developement stops,   that should be called maturity...   EOL is really when no one uses it any more.
[08:26] <Das> Does Kubuntu care is it's on a ATA, or an SATA drive?
[08:27] <enoj_> Dragnslcr: well that's obvious, but php5 isn't widely adopted yet.. and i'm sure _a lot_ of apps breaks in php5 .. unless there is some extra compability like Biovore mentions
[08:27] <Biovore> Das: I have installed it on both..
[08:27] <Biovore> Das: Grub sometime guesses the boot order wrong though with sata...
[08:28] <Das> Thanks, and what's the best partition type for sharing data between Kubuntu, and Windows?
[08:28] <intelikey> das the real question is does your bios care      short answer to your q is   NO linux doesn't care where it lives,  but bios and your boot loader have to be able to read in the kernel and initramfs pair
[08:29] <Karti> Das: I would say Fat32
[08:29] <intelikey> das second question is more speculative than answerable,
[08:29] <jhutchins_lt> Das: vfat's probably the easiest.
[08:29] <Das> I want to have windows, and linuz on one HD, and all non-prgam data on the other . . . what should the other be :p
[08:29] <jhutchins_lt> Das: NTFS is possible thanks to ntfs-3g
[08:29] <Dragnslcr> enoj_- I wouldn't use any code that requires PHP4 only. It probably means the programmer isn't very good or the code isn't maintained anymore
[08:29] <_Shade_> hi
[08:30] <jhutchins_lt> Das: There are windows drivers for ext2 (&3?)
[08:30] <_Shade_> how do i export console contents to a text file?
[08:30] <intelikey> das it should be ext#    and you should ditch windows
[08:30] <enoj_> Dragnslcr: w00t? so you mean all big PHP apps which are php4 only are dead or by poor programmers?
[08:30] <Das> Okay - thanks all for the help, have wonderful days!
[08:30] <Karti> _Shade_: You could just cut and paste into a document
[08:30] <Dragnslcr> enoj_- yup
[08:31] <jhutchins_lt> _Shade_: Usually cut-and-paste with the mouse.
[08:31] <twosouls82> _Shade_: command > textfile.txt
[08:31] <Dragnslcr> enoj_- PHP5 has been out for 3 years, and there were very few compatibility breaks
[08:31] <jhutchins_lt> _Shade_: You can also redirect the output of a command using >, >>, or tee.
[08:31] <jhutchins_lt> _Shade_: You can pipe it through a command (like grep) using |
[08:31] <_Shade_> Karti: jhutchins no since i have to do it in a text mode
[08:31] <Dragnslcr> And if you can't get PHP5 from your host, you probably want to find a better host
[08:31] <jhutchins_lt> _Shade_: GPM provides mouse functions in consoles.
[08:32] <intelikey> _Shade_ in short "yes you can"
[08:32] <twosouls82> _Shade_: for errors to a text file: command-here 2> textfile.txt
[08:32] <ufo123> pteague: cant u play wma?
[08:33] <_Shade_> ok thanks
[08:33] <fdoving> _shade_: you can also redirect to vim if you want to.
[08:34] <twosouls82> or to more or even /dev/null =)
[08:35] <Flare183> How do you get the OCR thing to work in Krita?
[08:35] <genefitz> Hey thre folks, how's it going?
[08:36] <intelikey> redirrecting to "more" is so M$-DOS'ish
[08:37] <intelikey> specially when you can just page-up
[08:38] <twosouls82> still one could
[08:38] <twosouls82> :)
[08:38] <intelikey> yeah one could      heh
[08:38] <intelikey> and i fear that many actually do   hehhe
[08:39] <intelikey> less is so much more than more,  cause more is far less than less
[08:40] <twosouls82> seen that one before, still, I like it :)
[08:41] <dave> hi
[08:41] <intelikey> my favorite is         anything_with_long_output_here | fold -s | less
[08:41] <dave> what is this
[08:41] <dave> lol
[08:41] <intelikey> dave this is the official kubuntu help channel
[08:41] <intelikey> !welcome | dave
[08:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about welcome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <intelikey> !hi | dave
[08:42] <ubotu> dave: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[08:43] <przemek_> helo, new on this community, has anyone could help me with Nvidia TV out issues ??
[08:44] <jhutchins> przemek_: I know there are people on here who know about that.
[08:45] <jhutchins> przemek_: Might need to try a different time or day.
[08:45] <jhutchins> !nvidia | przemek_ Meanwhile, this might help:
[08:45] <ubotu> przemek_ Meanwhile, this might help:: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:45] <przemek_> thanks for this information  :)
[08:46] <jhutchins> przemek_: THere's also #nvidia, I'll bet they could help.
[08:47] <phoenixz>   How can I assing a hotkey to automatically lock my session in KDE?
[08:53] <Roey> can someone here show me how to get to the last level in Kubuntu?
[08:53] <Roey> I can't make it past the angry demon boss in the 'cron' zone
[08:54] <Roey> someone told me about a Kill-9, I think he meant Kill nail, probably a nail gun of some sort.
[08:54] <Roey> I can't find it thoguh.
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[08:54] <Roey> ok
[08:58] <phoenixz> Hi all! I normally copy from another machine with ssh protocol using scp, like scp phoenixz@192.168.1.100/home/phoenixz/test .   Now, I want to be able to copy from that machine in KDE with konqueror or krusader, but how do I do this? Is it possible to mount that connection as a drive?
[08:59] <Karti> phoenixz: To answer your first question you can lock your desktop by using Ctrl + Alt + L
[09:00] <phoenixz> Karti, found that one already, but thanks anyway
[09:00] <Karti> The other, I just attach myself to my network drive by adding a line to the /etc/fstab
[09:01] <Karti> so it auto mounts on boot
[09:01] <codeatnight> or you could enter sftp://phoenixz@192.168.1.100/home/phoenixz/test in the konqueror address bar
[09:01] <_Shade_> hi
[09:02] <phoenixz> codeatnight, let me try that one then
[09:02] <gugus> Hi
[09:02] <_Shade_> i tried the command > file in console but it creates an empty textfile, and i want to have an output there
[09:03] <phoenixz> codeatnight, worked like a charm! thanks!
[09:03] <codeatnight> you're welcome
[09:03] <phoenixz> codeatnight, now, just one more little question.. is it possible to mount sftp connections?
[09:03] <rechercher> Anyone know what it means when ifup eth1 says "Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1", when ifconfig and iwconfig both show an eth1 ?
[09:03] <codeatnight> with sshfs
[09:03] <_Shade_> i can't start x server since i am getting some errors which i'd like to place in that file
[09:04] <_Shade_> so please how do i put the console output into a text file??
[09:05] <jhutchins> !bad device | _Shade_
[09:05] <ubotu> _Shade_: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[09:05] <phoenixz> codeatnight, thanks alot!
[09:06] <codeatnight> remember to put your user among those with the permission to mount via fuse
[09:06] <_Shade_> jhutchins: i don't know if it's a bad device error
[09:06] <BluesKaj> fooling with untested edits in the xorgfile can be dangerous
[09:06] <mojorising73> can anyone help me with installation problems?
[09:07] <rotem> i have tried to install flash player 9  but when i'm opening the file from the Konsole it sais that my architecture doesn't support it. how can i fix it?
[09:07] <ekrengel> what are you installing?
[09:07] <_Shade_> jhutchins: i'm getting "no screens found" message
[09:07] <jhutchins> _Shade_: startx > error.log 2>&1
[09:07] <mojorising73> well i tried ubuntu and then kubuntu and it hangs at the boot screen, i have to use the cd to log in now
[09:09] <mojorising73> i've tried reinstalling both but it still happens
[09:09] <jhutchins> mojorising73: Try the following boot options, seperately & together: noapic noacpi vga=normal
[09:10] <_Shade_> jhutchins: thanks, that helped
[09:10] <jhutchins> _Shade_: The 2> redirects standard error messages.
[09:10] <jhutchins> The &1 says send it to the same file as 1.
[09:11] <_Shade_> oh by the way... do you think i could install an xgl with gf2 card?
[09:12] <mojorising73> jhutchins: i tried writing that in the konsole but it says command not found
[09:14] <BluesKaj> mojorising73: you try editing the xorg file, changing graphics and mointor settings, but I don't know if trhe changes will hold up during reboot
[09:15] <mumificirani> !lynx
[09:15] <ubotu> Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)  -  HTTP servers: apache2
[09:15] <rotem> ekrengel i am installing adobe flash player 9
[09:15] <mojorising73> blueskaj: how do I do that?
[09:17] <raymond> bonjour
[09:17] <przemek_> join #ubuntu-pl
[09:17] <demarcsek> hi all
[09:17] <sonjoy> hi all
[09:17] <raymond> hi
[09:18] <BluesKaj> mojorising73:  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , in the konsole
[09:18] <demarcsek> can anybody write programs with the NCurses form library? i have got a problem...
[09:18] <sonjoy> I can browse thru konkqueror but ftp and this chat is working
[09:18] <demarcsek> i don't know how can i get field data (what typed by the user into the field;))
[09:18] <sonjoy> sorry I can't browse thru konqueror whats wrong
[09:19] <raymond> quelqu'un parle franais
[09:19] <BluesKaj> mojorising73:  the reason i suggest that is that your graphics card and monitor settings could be out of range
[09:19] <BluesKaj> !fr | raymond
[09:19] <ubotu> raymond: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:19] <mojorising73> i tried typing it in but it said it must be run as root (sorry that I am clueless)
[09:20] <raymond> ok, merci
[09:20] <BluesKaj> oh sorry mojorising73: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:21] <sonjoy> SOS - please help. net is up and running this is the prrof. ftp is working but http is not working whats wrong?
[09:21] <sonjoy> SOS - please help. net is up and running this is the proof. ftp is working but http is not working whats wrong?
[09:21] <rotem> hi
[09:22] <stoned> omg
[09:22] <sonjoy> hi rotem can you help me?
[09:22] <stoned> i hate being sick
[09:22] <mojorising73> got it now i'm on the x server driver page
[09:22] <stoned> someone kill me please
[09:22] <stoned> oh the pain
[09:22] <stoned> sonjoy: http in any browser working?
[09:22] <dsmith_> stoned: go drink some warm fluids and go back to bed
[09:22] <stoned> maybe you have a proxy set or something
[09:22] <sonjoy> no not working
[09:23] <stoned> dsmith_: yeh i just came home from work
[09:23] <stoned> took half day, too sick
[09:23] <stoned> in bed now
[09:23] <jhutchins> sonjoy: What browser are you trying to use?  What actually happens?
[09:23] <sonjoy> I am first time trying kubuntu. dont know how to check firewall may be firewall is blocking me. no proxy
[09:24] <stoned> no firewall on default
[09:24] <stoned> well no rules set afaik
[09:24] <sonjoy> trying konq
[09:24] <nanan> y a t il des francais ici ?
[09:24] <mojorising73> Blueskaj: I'm on the configuring xserver-xorg page, what next?
[09:24] <stoned> maybe konq has proxy settings
[09:24] <stoned> check those
[09:24] <stoned> in fact
[09:24] <sonjoy> how to chek that
[09:24] <stoned> try to go to google.com in a text browser
[09:24] <stoned> w3m should be installed
[09:25] <stoned> check in there
[09:25] <stoned> sonjoy: you get timeout? dns error? page not found?
[09:25] <stoned> what?
[09:25] <sonjoy> ommmn!
[09:25] <sonjoy> no error. actually iam on gprs
[09:26] <sonjoy> speed is <10KBps roughly. :(
[09:26] <BluesKaj> mojorising73:  use the arrow keys to navigate , the spacebar to choose resolution when you get there and, the tab key to move the cursor to "no or ok' when making choices.
[09:26] <mojorising73> blueskaj: ok, what should i choose?
[09:26] <rotem> hello i am trying to install ie4linux my computer when its done it restarts my computer, but i can't open it.
[09:27] <sonjoy> the msg is:"
[09:27] <sonjoy> An error occurred while loading http://www.gmail.com:
[09:27] <sonjoy> Could not connect to host http://www.gmail.com/.
[09:28] <sonjoy> follow?
[09:28] <sonjoy> stoned  :()
[09:28] <stoned> i dunno dude
[09:28] <BluesKaj> mojorising73: depends what graphics and monitor ...choose the settings with smiley faces , that means they are supposed to be compatible with your setup
[09:28] <stoned> thats ambigous
[09:28] <stoned> sonjoy: telnet google.com 80
[09:28] <stoned> then type GET
[09:28] <stoned> see if you get anything
[09:28] <sonjoy> thatswhy ~{
[09:29] <balint> hi, i need help to setting up xgl on kubuntu, if somebody can help me, query me
[09:29] <sonjoy> ok thanx fttb.
[09:29] <stoned> fttb?
[09:30] <sonjoy> for the time being
[09:30] <jhutchins> !xgl > sonjoy
[09:30] <stoned> wrong one
[09:30] <stoned> :)
[09:30] <balint> !xgl
[09:30] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:30] <stoned> sonjoy: go to konsole
[09:30] <stoned> sonjoy: type in telnet www.google.com 80
[09:31] <stoned> then at the new prompt, type GET
[09:31] <jhutchins> !xgl > balint
[09:31] <stoned> lets find out where the http problem is
[09:31] <stoned> funny how ftp is working yet http is not
[09:31] <jhutchins> stoned: Often a proxy setting in the browser.
[09:31] <stoned> jhutchins: i told him that 5 mins ago
[09:31] <_Deviant_> Hey, Could anyone help me with a Soundblaster problem? I can't seem to hear anything.
[09:31] <balint> jhutchins, ty
[09:31] <balint> jhutchins, checking
[09:31] <jhutchins> stoned: I don't think telnet is installed by default.
[09:32] <jhutchins> balint: Sorry, I saw you'd figured that out for yourself.
[09:32] <stoned> you sure
[09:32] <stoned> I think it is
[09:32] <jhutchins> balint: There are also tips on installinig ATI/Nvidia drivers at !ati
[09:32] <stoned> I have it and i didn't purposefully install it
[09:32] <stoned> conciously install it
[09:32] <sonjoy> An error occurred while loading http://www.gmail.com:
[09:32] <sonjoy> Could not connect to host http://www.gmail.com/.
[09:33] <sonjoy> root@Dell:/home/sonjoy/firefox# telnet www.google.com 80
[09:33] <sonjoy> Trying 64.233.189.104...
[09:33] <sonjoy> Connected to www.l.google.com.
[09:33] <sonjoy> Escape character is '^] '.
[09:33] <sonjoy> GET
[09:33] <sonjoy> Connection closed by foreign host.
[09:33] <sonjoy> root@Dell:/home/sonjoy/firefox#
[09:33] <sonjoy> thats what happened
[09:33] <stoned> it connects
[09:33] <stoned> how many browsers have you tried yet?
[09:34] <sonjoy> konq only. i was thinking to d load firefox and opera
[09:36] <sonjoy> stoned please don't go. i think you can solve it
[09:36] <stoned> try another browser
[09:36] <stoned> don't put me on the spot man
[09:36] <stoned> Ican't gaurantee any thing
[09:36] <stoned> in fact
[09:36] <stoned> I know nothin' bout nothin' dawg
[09:37] <stoned> I dunno nuthin'
[09:37] <sonjoy> SORRY!
[09:37] <stoned> ;)
[09:37] <stoned> I'm just offerin basic troubleshooting
[09:37] <sonjoy> just one thing. how to install a new application here in kubuntu unlike rpm
[09:38] <mneptok> Adept
[09:38] <stoned> sonjoy: aptitude install blah
[09:38] <stoned> oh yeh
[09:38] <stoned> i forgot
[09:38] <stoned> this is all gui
[09:38] <stoned> sonjoy: wha mneptok said
[09:38] <stoned> is 
[09:38] <mneptok> use apt-get before aptitude, please
[09:38] <stoned> good
[09:38] <stoned> my keyboard sucks sorry im typing line after line.
[09:38] <stoned> mneptok: why is this?
[09:38] <stoned> aptitude is superior to apt-get
[09:39] <stoned> it has much better dependecy resolutions
[09:39] <sonjoy> so finally what to do?
[09:39] <mneptok> stoned: improvements for dist-upglades
[09:39] <stoned> it searches much much better
[09:39] <mneptok> bleh. urgrades
[09:39] <mneptok> uhnteoideht
[09:39] <mneptok> canna type today
[09:39] <stoned> mneptok: aptitude handles all these tasks including upgrades a lot more effeciently than apt-get
[09:40] <mneptok> stoned: i know how they work. and in Ubuntu i have been told by the distro team that Synaptic/Adept or opt-get are the way to go. so i do.
[09:40] <stoned> whoever told you that was either a moron, or a moron. no offense to anyone.
[09:41] <mneptok> stoned: /whois mneptok
[09:41] <stoned> and why is that?
[09:41] <mneptok> because like i said, *for Ubuntu* it seems apt-get is preferable.
[09:41] <mneptok> not because i say so. because mdz said so.
[09:41] <stoned> so I'm to take your word for it?
[09:42] <stoned> so I'm taking his word for it?
[09:42] <stoned> ok...
[09:42] <mneptok> ask on a list.
[09:42] <stoned> I don't need to.  I know what I know, and I know I know the correct thing.
[09:42] <mneptok> if you need to know all the reasons and whyfors, go for it. i was discouraged from using aptitude. so i don't use it. i trust the source.
[09:43] <stoned> I just my own judgement and emperical data while testing both wrappers
[09:43] <stoned> trust*
[09:43] <sonjoy> Hi iam feeling bad as i started the thread on install, please.....
[09:43] <stoned> aptitude seems a far better choice
[09:43] <stoned> for me anyway
[09:43] <stoned> sonjoy: don't feed bad
[09:44] <stoned> force a smile, look up, and instantl you'll start to feel better
[09:44] <mneptok> i'm not trying to convince you of anything other than the fact that the distro team has discouraged aptitude
[09:44] <sonjoy> ok. as you say
[09:44] <sven_oostenbrink> Hi there, what plugin should I install to see PDF files in firefox? I could install adobe acrobat, but that one is slow as hell, and I remember that there was a better one  but I forgot which one..
[09:44] <stoned> dude, we're talking about ubuntu.  lol.
[09:44] <stoned> nevermind, I don't want to discuss this anymore.  I might be wrong, but I doubt it.
[09:44] <mneptok> sonjoy: i don't think anyone's angry here. :)
[09:45] <mneptok> sonjoy: people disagree all the time. adults do it far better. :)
[09:45] <sven_oostenbrink> stoned, Its firefox under kubuntu
[09:45] <stoned> it should be
[09:45] <sonjoy> ok ok then mine one was also a nice late night joke (adult too)
[09:45] <stoned> aptitude install firefox
[09:45] <stoned> sonjoy: im so very ill
[09:45] <stoned> I haven't the energy for jokes
[09:46] <stoned> neither the mental ability to understand most humor thrown my way
[09:46] <stoned> at least for a few more days
[09:46] <sonjoy> that may be your courteous "APPTITUDE"?
[09:46] <stoned> I'm sorry, I don't follow
[09:47] <stoned> sonjoy: did you try a different browser?
[09:47] <shawn> Hi, I'm looking for help, installed Kubuntu Fiesty with Linux MCE, need to update ATI drivers
[09:47] <stoned> mce?
[09:47] <shawn> I think I installed them all right, following the wiki, but it shows mesa in fglrxinfo, not ati
[09:47] <stoned> shawn: I just installed xorg-video-fglrx or something
[09:48] <stoned> you can try to backport one from gutsy
[09:48] <shawn> i'm wanting to get the best performance out of the LinuxMCE
[09:48] <sonjoy> sorry i have to do it afterwards as my broadband is down and i am on mobile GPRS. as slow as <10KBps.
[09:48] <shawn> i think i just need to do that find/replace or whatever edit to get the MESA out and the ATI into the fglrx thing
[09:48] <stoned> add a gutsy source, build-dep xorg-video-fglrx and apt-get -b source fglrx and then sudo dpkg -i blah
[09:48] <shawn> does that sound right? I remember doing this a while back
[09:48] <stoned> what do you mean mesa vs. ati?
[09:48] <stoned> i don't understand
[09:49] <shawn> when i do fglrxinfo it shows it using the Mesa drivers, not ATI drivers
[09:49] <stoned> what are you trying to do?
[09:49] <sonjoy> I will let you know afterwadrs. Thanks a lot. Bye.
[09:49] <stoned> mesa aren't really drivers
[09:49] <stoned> !info mesa-utils
[09:49] <ubotu> mesa-utils: Miscellaneous Mesa GL utilities. In component main, is extra. Version 6.5.2-3ubuntu7 (feisty), package size 43 kB, installed size 148 kB
[09:49] <stoned> check with glxinfo
[09:49] <shawn> fglrxinfo
[09:49] <shawn> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[09:49] <shawn> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[09:49] <shawn> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[09:49] <shawn> OpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2
[09:49] <stoned> ahh
[09:49] <shawn> that's what i get, but it should be showing ATI
[09:49] <stoned> you want direct rendering?
[09:50] <stoned> instead of indirect?
[09:50] <shawn> hardware, not software, i think is what you are asking?
[09:50] <shawn> but yes
[09:50] <stoned> yes
[09:50] <stoned> ok
[09:50] <shawn> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide
[09:50] <stoned> I got it simply by using xorg-video-fglrx
[09:50] <shawn> i tried following that
[09:50] <shawn> thought i did it fine
[09:50] <stoned> I didn' thave to do anything else
[09:50] <shawn> but i musta missed something
[09:50] <stoned> no module asistant
[09:50] <stoned> no module compiles
[09:50] <stoned> I just installed that driver package, modified xorg.conf and vola
[09:50] <stoned> i got 3d accel
[09:51] <stoned> remove all ati fglrx stuff
[09:51] <stoned> unload rmmod any fglrx modules
[09:51] <stoned> then install that xorg-fglrx drier thing
[09:51] <shawn> so you're saying not to use the ATI driver? or am I misunderstanding
[09:51] <stoned> xorg-driver-fglrx - Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators
[09:52] <stoned> do not use ati/radeon
[09:52] <shawn> i wish everything would just be automatic and i could apt-get install ATIDRIVERS
[09:52] <stoned> do not use ati binary drivers unless you can install it
[09:52] <shawn> i have in the past...
[09:52] <stoned> do you want this to work or not?
[09:52] <shawn> when Linux MCE first came out, and sometime before that as well
[09:52] <stoned> btw, you're on 7.04?
[09:52] <shawn> so I dunno what I did wrong this time
[09:52] <shawn> yes
[09:52] <shawn> just DLed last night
[09:52] <stoned> I dunno wtf linux mce is
[09:52] <busfahrer> Excuse me, is there any repository for a Ubuntu package of KTorrent 2.2 (or 2.2.1)?
[09:53] <stoned> busfahrer: you can easily get it yourself
[09:53] <stoned> like i did
[09:53] <shawn> it's a "add-on" basically... supposed to be like windows media center, but for linux
[09:53] <stoned> sudo apt-get build-dep ktorrent
[09:53] <shawn> www.linuxmce.com i think
[09:53] <stoned> then download the latest ktorrent source
[09:53] <stoned> tar zxvf source package
[09:53] <stoned> compile it
[09:53] <intelikey> !info ktorrent
[09:53] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1-0ubuntu2.1 (feisty), package size 2347 kB, installed size 8852 kB
[09:53] <stoned> sudo make install
[09:53] <stoned> :D
[09:53] <SonhadorPR> I need help accesing my other HDD on Kubuntu
[09:53] <stoned> or you can use dh_make to compile package yourself for ktorrent
[09:53] <stoned> I think 2.2 has a deb on ktorrent website
[09:54] <busfahrer> The thing is, on their website it says, for 2.2.1: "Ubuntu (i368) : Dapper (being worked on), Edgy, Feisty and a Gutsy package is in the repository (Thanks to John Dong)"
[09:54] <intelikey> busfahrer doesn't look like an official one.  no.
[09:54] <stoned> or you can backport it from gutsy
[09:54] <stoned> get the source pacakge and compile it
[09:54] <busfahrer> How can I check whether it's in feisty-backports?
[09:54] <stoned> install the repo
[09:54] <stoned> show ktorrent
[09:54] <stoned> apt-cache show
[09:54] <stoned> or policy
[09:54] <stoned> er.. add the repo in sources
[09:55] <stoned> i can't think straight and im hitting enter like crazy, please excuse me I might get annoying soon
[09:55] <intelikey> soon ?   :)
[09:55] <mneptok> busfahrer: it's in Gutsy
[09:55] <stoned> hehe
[09:55] <stoned> busfahrer: add a source for gutsy deb-src
[09:56] <busfahrer> 2.2 is in backports, that'll dpo
[09:56] <busfahrer> -p
[09:56] <SonhadorPR> I need help with connecting to IRC from kubuntu
[09:56] <stoned> then get the source package from them
[09:56] <busfahrer> thanks
[09:56] <stoned> ok nm
[09:56] <shawn> DOH! i think i found my problem
[09:56] <stoned> i like to get the latest sources
[09:56] <mneptok> busfahrer: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/net/ktorrent
[09:56] <shawn> a typo and ignoring an error...
[09:56] <stoned> sonjoy: you're ON irc
[09:56] <stoned> right now
[09:56] <shawn> i never edited a file b/c i typed it wrong
[09:56] <stoned> :)
[09:56] <intelikey> SonhadorPR ?
[09:56] <stoned> what file?
[09:56] <shawn> linux-restricted-modiles-common
[09:56] <shawn> in /etc/default
[09:57] <stoned> ok
[09:57] <SonhadorPR> inteL: I using IRc because I doing a telnet to a VMS account.
[09:57] <SonhadorPR> my IRC programs on kubuntu don connect
[09:57] <sonjoy> ya still here. dlding firefox via ftp
[09:57] <shawn> i think that was an important step.... i'm an idiot
[09:57] <SonhadorPR> I think its the firewall....I think
[09:57] <shawn> thanks for the help, hopefully all goes well after this restart
[09:57] <stoned> ohnm
[09:57] <stoned> i thought you were sojoy
[09:57] <sonjoy> humn
[09:58] <intelikey> SonhadorPR tried telnet ?
[09:58] <SonhadorPR> I am using telnet
[09:58] <SonhadorPR> right now
[09:58] <intelikey> ok
[09:58] <SonhadorPR> but I want to use the KSIrc, or the Chatzilla from FireFox
[09:58] <intelikey> something wrong with konversation ?
[09:59] <SonhadorPR> or the X-Chat...none of those work...they wont connect to the servers
[09:59] <_Deviant_> is there anyway to get alsa to use my sound blaster instead of onboard?
[09:59] <SonhadorPR> I havent used that one yet..
[09:59] <SonhadorPR> I think it will be the same problem..
[09:59] <stoned> yeh i been wondering
[09:59] <SonhadorPR> let me see...
[09:59] <stoned> how come there is no 'alsaconf' in ubuntu?
[09:59] <sonjoy> stoned, its a .tar.gz file thats getting d'loaded
[09:59] <stoned> sonjoy: ok
[09:59] <stoned> sonjoy: you have a router?
[09:59] <stoned> sonjoy: maybe you have http traffic blocked?
[10:00] <intelikey> SonhadorPR if none of those work,  you probably guessed it correctly,      probably is an firewall  possably even upstream
[10:00] <stoned> SonhadorPR: you at work?
[10:01] <sonjoy> no, its connected via bluetooth and nokia 3230 simple thats it. I also thought but who blocked my admin. iam working thru root?
[10:01] <sonjoy> i myself is the admin
[10:01] <stoned> oh boy
[10:01] <stoned> hehehe j/k
[10:01] <SonhadorPR> well Ill be damned...the konversation works fine..
[10:01] <SonhadorPR> but none of the other ones are connecting..
[10:01] <stoned> konversation is good
[10:01] <SonhadorPR> that really strange
[10:01] <stoned> i know the konversation dev
[10:01] <stoned> he is a good kid
[10:02] <stoned> its a fine product
[10:02] <sonhadorpr_> I guess I a new konversation konvert!!
[10:02] <sonhadorpr_> hehehehehe
[10:02] <stoned> though it is nowher near complete
[10:02] <sonjoy> ya. i also tried to launch konq thru root. same thing happened
[10:02] <stoned> I myself hate konversation
[10:02] <stoned> or xchat
[10:02] <stoned> or mirc
[10:02] <stoned> ugh
[10:02] <ubuntu__> how i make cool desktop?
[10:02] <SonhadorPR> heheheh...ok
[10:03] <sonhadorpr_> so anyway...I do have another problem with kubuntu
[10:03] <stoned> ubuntu__: what kinda cool? configure it yourself cool or beryl cool?
[10:03] <stoned> ubuntu__: you want 3d cubes and effcts or just a good clean desktop
[10:03] <intelikey> ubuntu__ apply liquid nitrogen
[10:03] <ubuntu__> 3d cube
[10:03] <stoned> ubuntu__: go to #beryl
[10:03] <intelikey> !beryl | ubuntu__
[10:03] <ubotu> ubuntu__: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:04] <stoned> ahh officialy supported?
[10:04] <stoned> nice
[10:04] <intelikey> yep
[10:04] <sonhadorpr_> doesn anybody know how I can access my Windows HDD through kubuntu?
[10:04] <stoned> ues
[10:04] <stoned> !fat
[10:04] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[10:04] <sonhadorpr_> I used to be able to do it through ubuntu, but kuuntu took that away
[10:04] <intelikey> !ntfs
[10:04] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:05] <stoned> same factoid
[10:05] <stoned> :)
[10:05] <intelikey> no
[10:05] <intelikey> very simular
[10:05] <stoned> oh I meant links
[10:05] <sonjoy> very easy. i shar with vista. all ntfs. all accessed
[10:05] <stoned> ouch
[10:05] <stoned> vista is the devil
[10:05] <sonhadorpr_> sonjoy...can you give me step-by-step instructions?
[10:05] <sonjoy> just go to media
[10:06] <sonjoy> what to do got built in with this dell
[10:06] <ubuntu__> no help on effectes
[10:06] <intelikey> not the devil just written by them
[10:06] <stoned> hi guys
[10:06] <stoned> can anyone please tell me of a cool looking zooming or bouncing panel for kde?
[10:06] <stoned> a replacement for kicker perhaps
[10:06] <stoned> full with systray and sysmon plugins etc.
[10:06] <SonhadorPR> sonjoy, I am on the media folder...what now?
[10:07] <adaptr> try kool..something
[10:07] <stoned> kooldock
[10:07] <mastery82> to access NTFS do "sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g"
[10:07] <adaptr> possibly
[10:07] <sonjoy> home folder>redcolored folder>media
[10:07] <mumificirani> !compiz
[10:07] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:07] <intelikey> ">redcolored folder>"   hehhe
[10:08] <mastery82> and to be able to write to nfts write to console"sudo apt-get install ntfs-config"
[10:08] <adaptr> that shit is ooold.. who uses xgl now ?
[10:08] <SonhadorPR> no...the only media I know is the /media
[10:08] <nixternal> !language | adaptr
[10:08] <ubotu> adaptr: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:08] <SonhadorPR> on the root folder
[10:08] <adaptr> nixternal thanks, I really needed that
[10:09] <mastery82> ok sonhadorpr_?
[10:10] <sonhadorpr_> I was following sonjoys instructions..
[10:10] <stoned> what did he do?
[10:10] <sonhadorpr_> but tell me...write the sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g and the what?
[10:10] <stoned> nixternal: what did you do?
[10:10] <nixternal> nothing
[10:10] <stoned> ok
[10:10] <stoned> I have modes and such on ignore
[10:10] <nixternal> hehe
[10:10] <stoned> I don't see anything but people chat
[10:10] <stoned> :D
[10:10] <_Deviant_> Could someone help me out, I can't seem to get my sound blaster card working.. Alsa Mixer keeps trying to use my onboard audio.
[10:11] <stoned> how come there is no ' alsaconf ' for ubuntu
[10:11] <stoned> how does know make alsa detect all cards then chose from it in ubuntu?
[10:11] <stoned> kubuntu?
[10:11] <mastery82> ntfs-3g is the driver to mount an ntfs drive
[10:11] <stoned> s/how does one know*
[10:12] <stoned> oof
[10:12] <mastery82> your problem is that it does not mount automatically?
[10:12] <stoned> is there an alternative to alsaconf?
[10:12] <mastery82> or you cannot find it at all?
[10:12] <intelikey> !sonud
[10:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sonud - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:12] <stoned> !alsa
[10:12] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:12] <SonhadorPR> exactly.
[10:12] <SonhadorPR> in ubuntu the drives were there.
[10:12] <stoned> what if you don't want to run arts
[10:12] <intelikey> !sound
[10:12] <intelikey> yeah that
[10:12] <SonhadorPR> .in kubuntu they are not
[10:13] <stoned> I like to have alsa+dmix for my stuff
[10:13] <SonhadorPR> ok..I did the apt-get thingy..now what?
[10:13] <stoned> !mp3
[10:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:13] <intelikey> stoned; goes to EOL mentality
[10:14] <sonjoy_> sonhadorpr_: can tell me your hdd partitions
[10:14] <intelikey> i liked/used soundcfg too
[10:14] <stoned> eh
[10:14] <stoned> I like alsaconf
[10:14] <sonhadorpr_> sonjoy: How do I do that?
[10:14] <stoned> so what is the new alternative for it?
[10:14] <stoned> way/method etc.
[10:14] <intelikey> some gui crap i guess
[10:14] <sonjoy_> use qparted
[10:14] <sonhadorpr_> insdie a terminal window?
[10:14] <stoned> qtparted
[10:14] <stoned> for a gui
[10:14] <sonjoy_> ya
[10:14] <stoned> same thing
[10:15] <stoned> but pointyclicky
[10:15] <sonjoy_> ya qtparted
[10:15] <stoned> I personally prefer cfdisk abov all
[10:15] <intelikey> sonhadorpr_ cat /proc/partitions
[10:15] <runlevelten> cfdisk++
[10:15] <sonhadorpr_> hold on ..I have to install it
[10:15] <intelikey> sonhadorpr_ cat /proc/partitions
[10:15] <intelikey> sonhadorpr_   that's all you need to do  %
[10:15] <stoned> bumble bee tuna
[10:16] <sonhadorpr_> cat/proc/partitions just like that in the terminal window?
[10:16] <fdoving> i usually recommend the gparted livecd 50mb download, and it's great.
[10:16] <stoned> well
[10:16] <intelikey> sonhadorpr_ cat /proc/partitions
[10:16] <stoned> the best is diamond boot cd or hiren's boot cd
[10:16] <intelikey> sonhadorpr_ the space is important
[10:16] <stoned> for a tech, thsoe are THE tools
[10:17] <sonhadorpr_> ok ...I just ran qtparted.
[10:17] <sonhadorpr_> i have /dev/hda and /dev/hdb
[10:17] <sonjoy_> as a beginner kbuntu user i liked qtparted
[10:17] <intelikey> neither of which are partitions
[10:18] <sonhadorpr_> no...they are 2 differente drives
[10:18] <sonjoy_> normally primary one is /dev/hda1
[10:18] <intelikey> i'll stay out of it...     i'm only confusing the
[10:18] <sonhadorpr_> then that would be the hda
[10:18] <stoned> I don't like those dockers
[10:18] <stoned> i change my mind
[10:18] <sonjoy_> the extended's logical starts from /dev/hda5, /dev/hda6, this order
[10:18] <stoned> kicker is awesome
[10:19] <stoned> I'll never betray kicker again
[10:19] <stoned> btw, ktorrent crashes on me a lot
[10:19] <stoned> I compiled the latest source
[10:19] <sonhadorpr_> ok...so the qtparted says The following drives have been detected...now what??
[10:19] <stoned> stable
[10:19] <intelikey> sonjoy_ caution:  could start at partition #1
[10:19] <stoned> it does that on every version i've evr used
[10:20] <stoned> mostly only when i try to right click and remove finished torrents
[10:20] <sonjoy_> i told /dev/hda1 is primary. for him let it be /dev/hda5 onwards
[10:22] <intelikey> sonjoy_ i'm just saying you are mentioning an M$ default  and possably some linux apps addopted that stratigy.  but it's possable to make hd?1 the extended partition and logicals start at 2
[10:22] <vzduch> netsplit? o0
[10:22] <nixternal> no
[10:22] <nixternal> idiots in #ubuntu
[10:23] <intelikey> sonjoy_ better to just look at the data and go from there,  not to say "it's like this..."  cause that's not always the case, nor does it need to be.
[10:23] <nixternal> !register
[10:23] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:23] <sonjoy_> sorry. thats why i used the word "normally"
[10:23] <phoenixz> Hi there, I am using firefox on linux (kubuntu) What plugin could I use to see PDF files in firefox? I don't want to use adobe reader because that one is slow as hell
[10:23] <nixternal> if your nick isn't registered, here is your warning...if they come here I will set the channel mode to +rR which means only registered users can chat
[10:24] <vzduch> nixternal: what was the matter?
[10:24] <vzduch> if you care to elaborate :)
[10:24] <stoned> you can use kpdf
[10:24] <klobster> ??
[10:24] <nixternal> dccspamming
[10:24] <stoned> it wont' be a plugin
[10:24] <stoned> or you can probably use mozplugger with kpdf helper
[10:24] <stoned> that might work out phoenixz
[10:25] <stoned> phoenixz: kpdf + mozplugger OR just a firefox config to launch external appliation kdpf or xpdf or gpdf
[10:25] <phoenixz> stoned, Where could I get the mozplugger?
[10:26] <stoned> search it
[10:26] <stoned> mozplugger - Plugin allowing external viewers to be launched inside Mozilla
[10:26] <sonjoy_> ya stoned i have downloaded firefox-2.0.0.5.tar.gz, extracted also. now?
[10:26] <phoenixz> stoned, gottit
[10:27] <stoned> sonjoy_: try to get to a website from frifox
[10:27] <voicu> is there a Mathematica compatible program on linux? i mean something free/opensource
[10:27] <sonjoy_> no no how to install it first?
[10:27] <stoned> voicu: what is math
[10:27] <stoned> er..
[10:27] <stoned> mathematica
[10:27] <voicu> stoned: the program
[10:27] <stoned> whats it do
[10:27] <voicu> stoned: by wolfram research
[10:27] <stoned> you learn math?
[10:28] <stoned> for kids?
[10:28] <voicu> stoned: no, it's a tool for making calculations
[10:28] <stoned> there are a lot of math tools in kde
[10:28] <runlevelten> http://www.wolfram.com/news/presslinux.html
[10:28] <mastery82> http://linuxappfinder.com/education/math
[10:28] <rechercher> hello! anyone know if the fglrx drivers work with 2.6.20?
[10:29] <SonhadorPR> I still don know what I doing
[10:29] <runlevelten> voicu - you get that?
[10:29] <stoned> what is technical computation?
[10:29] <voicu> runlevelten: i know about the linux version of Mathematica but i want something opensource
[10:29] <rechercher> iow, do i need to downgrade my kernel to install fglrx
[10:29] <rechercher> >?
[10:29] <stoned> rechercher: no
[10:29] <klobster> ok so kde has died, and I can't figure out what happened.  start kde fails, I am running gnome now, anyone have any ideas where i start to fix this?
[10:29] <stoned> install xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:29] <rechercher> ok, i will try that
[10:29] <sonjoy_> SonhadorPR: ask intelikey.
[10:30] <runlevelten> voicu: Sorry, you just asked for a Mathematica compatible program on linux.
[10:30] <stoned> klobster: try mv ~/.kde ~/.kde_backup_july29
[10:30] <SonhadorPR> Intelikey:  I want to access my NTFS drives, how can I do this on kubuntu?
[10:30] <rechercher> stoned will that give me 3d?
[10:30] <stoned> klobster: sudo update-alternatives --configure x-session-manager and chose kde
[10:30] <stoned> klobster: startx
[10:30] <voicu> runlevelten: i also added i wanted something free/opensource...
[10:30] <stoned> rechercher: yes
[10:31] <intelikey> SonhadorPR by following carefully the instructions on the page that ubotu gives below
[10:31] <intelikey> !ntfs | SonhadorPR
[10:31] <ubotu> SonhadorPR: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:31] <runlevelten> voicu: Ah, so you did.
[10:31] <intelikey> !ntfs-3g | SonhadorPR
[10:31] <ubotu> SonhadorPR: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[10:31] <phoenixz> stoned, so I installed it, but how do I use it?
[10:31] <stoned> phoenixz: what?
[10:31] <stoned> my memory is horrible
[10:32] <stoned> I'm stoned yous ee
[10:32] <phoenixz> stoned, mozplugin..
[10:32] <stoned> yeh so I've never used it
[10:32] <stoned> I have no idea really
[10:32] <SonhadorPR> ok...Ill try that..
[10:32] <SonhadorPR> thanx
[10:32] <phoenixz> stoned, I dont see it in the menu, I dont see anything in firefox either
[10:32] <intelikey> SonhadorPR if after carefuly reading those pages you still have trubble  come back and we'll talk.
[10:32] <stoned> phoenixz: go view a pdf file
[10:32] <stoned> phoenixz: it would be listed under about:plugins
[10:33] <stoned> nowhere else
[10:33] <rechercher> stoned, thanks, that did the trick
[10:33] <stoned> rechercher: what?
[10:33] <rechercher> stoned, just installing that driver
[10:33] <stoned> oh yeh
[10:33] <stoned> cool man :)
[10:33] <rechercher> stoned, someone else told me i had to recompile my kernel because IT WILL NOT WORK AT ALL on 2.6.20
[10:33] <rechercher> what a load of crap
[10:34] <stoned> its always better to take your car to a few different mechanics and ask them
[10:34] <SonhadorPR>    it before in ubuntu, but kubuntu deleted those folders, or something..the6
[10:34] <stoned> 1 might try to rip you off, the other might not know his stuff
[10:34] <stoned> etc.
[10:34] <stoned> meaning, always ask in #kubuntu/#ubuntu before taking someone's word for it
[10:35] <blekos> hello, has anybody installed synce 0.10 in ubuntu?
[10:35] <stoned> and also research it yourself
[10:35] <rechercher> nice analogy
[10:36] <sayers> How do I change my theme?
[10:36] <klobster> stoned: update alternatives, will just open startkde, no?  and that is borked.  If I reboot it hangs and goes to a command prompt
[10:36] <stoned> klobster: did you modify the script?
[10:36] <intelikey> !theme | sayers
[10:36] <ubotu> sayers: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[10:37] <sonjoy_> I could not install or run firefox. its not working
[10:37] <sayers> intelikey: :(, I know that, but how do I change it in KDE
[10:37] <stoned> sayers: kcontnrol
[10:37] <klobster> stoned: no, I have done nothing
[10:37] <stoned> sayers: kcontrol
[10:38] <intelikey> sonjoy_ may i ask why you are trying to build from source the default ubuntu browser ?
[10:38] <stoned> sayers: argh. alt + f2, tyep in kcontrol and box opens, configure your kde there
[10:38] <intelikey> !ff | sonjoy_
[10:38] <ubotu> sonjoy_: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[10:38] <stoned> intelikey: his http isn't working
[10:38] <stoned> intelikey: ftp apparantly does work
[10:38] <stoned> klobster: strange
[10:38] <intelikey> then it's a firewall/upstream issue
[10:38] <klobster> sonjoy_: stoned: only in FF, or in all web apps?
[10:39] <stoned> klobster: did you try to move your ~/.kde?
[10:39] <stoned> start without one
[10:39] <klobster> stoned: I am about to.
[10:39] <stoned> maybe it is some kde setting causing crap
[10:39] <klobster> stoned: I don't thnk so, i think it is before that.
[10:40] <stoned> before what?
[10:40] <stoned> no I mean you should mv ~/.kde ~/.kde_backup
[10:40] <klobster> stoned: before startx is run
[10:40] <stoned> and try kde again
[10:40] <klobster> I know.
[10:40] <rechercher> so what do you'all think of the proposed kde-gnome merger?
[10:40] <intelikey> well at any rate sonjoy_ you'll need to install build-essential before you can compile anything   (if you haven't already done so)
[10:40] <stoned> kde gnome what!!!
[10:40] <klobster> sonjoy_: what exactly is your HTTP issue?
[10:40] <stoned> I absolutely HATE gtk
[10:41] <stoned> I'd like for mozilla to put out a qt version of firefox
[10:41] <stoned> instead of gtk
[10:41] <x_link> Hi
[10:41] <stoned> x_link: yo buddy
[10:41] <x_link> I installe Kubuntu for like 3-4 days ago.
[10:41] <rechercher> stoned, yes, it would me nice for kde users
[10:41] <stoned> x_link: you betray debian :)
[10:41] <x_link> I use VLC to watch movies, but I can't fast forward or anything. When I try to do that the movie starts over again.
[10:41] <x_link> It wasn't like this in Debian.
[10:42] <x_link> stoned: Hi mate.
[10:42] <stoned> x_link: just use mplayer
[10:42] <x_link> I have always used VLC, like it alot.
[10:42] <stoned> awe
[10:42] <x_link> But in Debian it wasn't like this.
[10:43] <stoned> check the feisty bts
[10:43] <stoned> maybe its a bug
[10:43] <stoned> if not, file it
[10:43] <x_link> I don't know how to look.
[10:43] <x_link> I use Kubuntu 7.04
[10:43] <stoned> !bts
[10:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:43] <stoned> they don't have a bts?
[10:43] <stoned> !bugs
[10:43] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[10:43] <stoned> ahh here it is
[10:43] <x_link> What?
[10:43] <x_link> Did you find the bug?
[10:43] <stoned> no
[10:44] <x_link> Ahh ok =)
[10:44] <stoned> hows the old woman?
[10:44] <x_link> I will try with mplayet now to see.
[10:44] <stoned> and kids?
[10:44] <x_link> Just fine, thanks for asking =)
[10:44] <stoned> you havin fun with your new system?
[10:44] <stoned> yeh man you da man
[10:44] <rubicon> hi all
[10:45] <x_link> stoned: =)
[10:45] <x_link> stoned: I don't got my new system yet.
[10:45] <stoned> x_link: I build the 8800gtx boxy today
[10:45] <x_link> I have just upgraded this one for now.
[10:45] <stoned> ahh
[10:45] <x_link> stoned: hehe nice =)
[10:45] <x_link> stoned: Can you do me a favor?
[10:45] <stoned> 3.0ghz amd ahtlon x2 6000 now at 3.8ghz
[10:45] <stoned> stock cooling
[10:46] <rubicon> please, colud some post the following in the ATI-Driver FAQ's: If it won't work, check your BIOS-Settings for the CArd-Bus Type AGP->bad, PCI->good, full 3D
[10:46] <sonjoy_> well i shall try tomorrow. its 2.12 am and i have to be up by 6:30am. so thans guys fo ryour nice help. see you tomorrow night. again. bye. good night. you may send me doc at sonjoyganguly@gmail.com. my issue is http not working whereas ftp, irc is working. good night stoned. special thamx to stoned and intelikey :)
[10:46] <stoned> 8800gtx, 2gb pc6400, and other neat stuff
[10:46] <x_link> stoned: You overclocked Athlon 64 x2 6000+ to 3.8Ghz?
[10:47] <stoned> yessir
[10:47] <x_link> They don't oc that well.
[10:47] <x_link> hmm ok
[10:47] <x_link> Max I heard is like 3.4Ghz
[10:47] <stoned> yeh well
[10:47] <stoned> thats what I do for a living man
[10:47] <x_link> stoned: Can you try to find if there is a bug?
[10:47] <x_link> I don't understand.
[10:47] <stoned> the guy has money to throw around
[10:47] <x_link> But I read it on a site.
[10:47] <intelikey> rubicon in #ubuntu  seaves     or nalioth maybe
[10:47] <stoned> i charge for labor, and 10% on pars
[10:47] <stoned> parts
[10:48] <x_link> stoned: I can't watch movies iwth mplayer.
[10:48] <x_link> I get errors.
[10:48] <stoned> some of my techs are brilliant hardware hackers man
[10:48] <klobster> stoned: startx boots kde even with my original .kde, but still doesn't complete the boot process properly.
[10:48] <x_link> Maybe I need codecs or something.
[10:48] <stoned> klobster: that sucks
[10:48] <stoned> klobster: you haven't removed any packages?
[10:48] <klobster> nope
[10:48] <stoned> what did you do?
[10:48] <mastery82> x_link
[10:48] <mastery82> download automatix
[10:49] <stoned> anything different at all
[10:49] <stoned> no
[10:49] <stoned> dude
[10:49] <mastery82> and install all drivers from there
[10:49] <stoned> wtf is wrong with you
[10:49] <stoned> say no to automatix
[10:49] <stoned> say no to automatix
[10:49] <klobster> !automatix
[10:49] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:49] <stoned> say no to automatix
[10:49] <stoned> say no to automatix
[10:49] <stoned> ok
[10:49] <stoned> 4 times ought to do it
[10:49] <x_link> stoned: I didn't do anything.
[10:49] <stoned> :)
[10:49] <stoned> i know
[10:49] <mastery82> yes i ve read that stoned
[10:49] <mastery82> but i ve been using it for 1 year now
[10:49] <kaminix> !WorksForMe
[10:49] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[10:49] <stoned> you've ever read the actual script
[10:49] <stoned> to see what exactly it does?
[10:50] <intelikey> klobster tried   find ~/ -exec sudo chown `whoami` '{}' \;
[10:50] <mastery82> and it works great
[10:50] <jacob> okay guys dumb question, how do i create another account on kubuntu
[10:50] <stoned> jacob: adduser
[10:50] <stoned> man adduser
[10:51] <stoned> or kmenu>system>kuser
[10:51] <intelikey> that does assume you don't symlink to system folders
[10:51] <mastery82> and x_link for me the best player is vlc#
[10:51] <jacob> only root may add a user?
[10:51] <stoned> mplayer is stuff
[10:51] <jacob> thats what i got
[10:51] <stoned> jacob: true
[10:51] <jacob> so....what do i do?
[10:51] <intelikey> jacob  sudo adduser jacob     <<<< example only
[10:52] <stoned> sudo -p kuser
[10:52] <klobster> intellikey: this is before the boot process finishes.  It simply hangs at "running /etc/rc.d/local"` untill I hit enter, and then it shows a login prompt
[10:52] <stoned> !user
[10:52] <ubotu> To add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo
[10:52] <rubicon> klobster: have you ruined your Xserver?
[10:52] <mastery82> !whoami
[10:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about whoami - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:52] <mastery82> !df
[10:52] <ubotu> Graphical representations of where your disk-space is being used are: baobab (GNOME), filelight / kinfocenter (Kubuntu). On the terminal: df -h -T
[10:53] <stoned> kdf
[10:53] <intelikey> klobster that's not a hang,  that's a prompt over written.     (case in point: rather than hitting enter type: ls   and hit enter)
[10:54] <klobster> I suspect you are correct.  Where would i find the log of the booting events, so that i could see what died?
[10:54] <intelikey> klobster and yes it will ask for ls's password but you see what i'm saying.
[10:54] <stoned> !wayttd
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wayttd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:55] <stoned> its not added yet
[10:55] <intelikey> klobster it sounds like no dm is starting    ls /etc/rc.2 | grep dm
[10:55] <stoned> dm doesn't start with startx
[10:55] <stoned> thats how he is starting X isn't he?
[10:57] <klobster>  /etc/rc2.d ?
[10:57] <jacob> how do i get root access? i went to kmenu<system settings<user groups<administrator mode and it says i need root acces
[10:58] <rechercher> sudo su
[10:58] <rechercher> is to become root, jacob
[10:59] <klobster> ok rebooting, bbs
[11:00] <jacob> thank you rechercher
[11:01] <jacob> okay, now...anyone have any experience with WINE?
[11:02] <jacob> anyone know how to use wine with warcraft 3
[11:06] <jacob> er
[11:07] <jacob> my adept package manager wont open
[11:08] <twosouls82> jacob: try running it from the Konsole, and see if something it printed there
[11:08] <twosouls82> s/something it/something is/
[11:08] <klobster> got it.  kdm was turned off
[11:08] <jacob> how do i run from konsole
[11:09] <ruzzz>   ?
[11:09] <klobster> !ru
[11:09] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[11:09] <twosouls82> jacob: Alt+F2 -> konsole ENTER
[11:09] <jacob> i mean
[11:09] <twosouls82> adept_manager is it called
[11:09] <jacob> how do i run adept through the konsole
[11:09] <jacob> ah k
[11:10] <twosouls82> jacob: adept_ tab tab and see
[11:10] <klobster> hey how does kubuntu handle runlevels? I have multiuser modes 2-5; which one should I have start kdm?
[11:10] <klobster> what is the difference between them?
[11:11] <Dragnslcr> I think kdm is at runlevel 5
[11:12] <Biovore> or runlevel 2
[11:12] <Dragnslcr> Aren't 3 and 4 normally unused?
[11:12] <Dragnslcr> It's been a while since I've done anything with runlevels
[11:13] <x_link> stoned: Do I need any codecs to play with mplayer?
[11:13] <Biovore> yeah.. well inittab isn't used anymore.. so I am sure what runlevel it comes up in..
[11:13] <jacob> okay i installed firefox earlier, then created another account, how do i make firefox available for  both accounts
[11:13] <stoned> !w32codecs x_link
[11:13] <stoned> !w32codecs | x_link
[11:13] <ubotu> x_link: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[11:13] <Biovore> x_link: www.mplayerhq.hu
[11:13] <x_link> sudo apttiude install w32codecs
[11:13] <x_link> ok
[11:14] <x_link> Hrmm that didn't owrk.
[11:14] <x_link> work
[11:15] <[ifr0g] > what is a chainloader ?
[11:15] <[ifr0g] > Sorry.. i googled and i dont get a proper desc.
[11:15] <Biovore> got to the start of the disk and execute
[11:15] <klobster> biovore Dragnslcr so no clue, then?
[11:15] <x_link> Biovore: I don't find anyting on that site =/
[11:16] <[ifr0g] > sorry ?
[11:16] <[ifr0g] > GOT ?
[11:16] <Biovore> x_link: there is a link for the win32 codec pack under the download section..
[11:16] <x_link> ok
[11:16] <Biovore> x_link: download it and extract to /usr/lib/win32/
[11:16] <[ifr0g] > it goes to that start of the disk.?
[11:17] <[ifr0g] > chainloader +1 ??
[11:17] <x_link> Biovore: But exactly which codec should I get?
[11:17] <Biovore> yup.. first part of the partition..
[11:17] <Biovore> (err the MBR)
[11:17] <Biovore> x_link: the tarball has 30 of them in it..
[11:17] <[ifr0g] > if i want to go to the 3rd part ?
[11:17] <x_link> Biovore: ok
[11:18] <x_link> Biovore: Just any under "Binary Codec Packages" right?
[11:18] <Biovore> [ifr0g] : well normaly we use grub to boot chainload +1 on a partition..
[11:18] <Biovore> x_link: yup
[11:18] <x_link> ok
[11:18] <jacob> anyone here use teamspeak
[11:18] <x_link> I guess I should create /var/lib/win32 on my own?
[11:19] <Biovore> x_link: /usr/lib/win32   yes.. use sudo..
[11:19] <[ifr0g] > Biovore, ah ok, and +1 indicate ??
[11:19] <x_link> ok
[11:19] <Biovore> there are instructions..
[11:19] <ardchoille> x_link: Are installing win32codecs ?
[11:19] <x_link> NDPTAL85: sudo mkdir /usr/lib/win32
[11:19] <x_link> ardchoille: Yes
[11:19] <x_link> I remember that I could do "sudo aptitude install w32codecs" in debian.
[11:19] <ardchoille> x_link: you can get them from the repos and you won't have to do it manually
[11:20] <ardchoille> !win32codecs
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <ardchoille> !win32
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <ardchoille> bah!
[11:20] <ardchoille> !seveas
[11:20] <Biovore> [ifr0g] : http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#chainloader
[11:20] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:20] <x_link> ardchoille: I tried with sudo aptitude install w32codecs, but don't find anything.
[11:20] <ardchoille> x_link: see the seveas repo that ubotu posted for win32codecs
[11:20] <ardchoille> x_link: you have to add the repo first
[11:20] <x_link> Which one?
[11:21] <ardchoille> !seveas | x_link
[11:21] <ubotu> x_link: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:21] <x_link> ardchoille: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:21] <x_link> Should I add that repo?
[11:21] <ardchoille> x_link: read tha tpage and add the repo
[11:21] <x_link> ok
[11:22] <x_link> deb http://mirror3.ubuntu.com/ feisty-seveas extras freenx
[11:22] <x_link> deb-src http://mirror3.ubuntu.com/ feisty-seveas extras freenx
[11:22] <x_link> I should add that then
[11:22] <ardchoille> x_link: If you do things correctly, rarely will you have to do much manually
[11:22] <x_link> ardchoille: That's the right repos, right?
[11:22] <[ifr0g] > Biovore, thanks..
[11:23] <evjunior09> Anyone good with Limewire?? I have a problem
[11:23] <ardchoille> x_link: You're going to have to read that page, there are several sections for the repo.
[11:23] <x_link> ok
[11:24] <x_link> Biovore: But should I move the .zip file to /var/lib/win32 and extract it there then it's okej?
[11:24] <ardchoille> x_link: If you do it manually, you may run into dependency problems, this is why we use package managers.
[11:24] <x_link> hmm ok
[11:24] <x_link> But I'm not that good ont his.
[11:25] <x_link> I don't get it. I will leave this alone.
[11:25] <x_link> brb
[11:25] <ardchoille> x_link: The wiki docs are designed well, easy to follow. The reason I won't spoon feed you is because that would teach you nothing. If you learn nothing, then you won't know how to fix a potential problem later.
[11:25] <evjunior09> Can Amarok Play WMA files?
[11:26] <x_link> ardchoille: But I don't understand it.
[11:26] <x_link> I found the repo.
[11:26] <ardchoille> x_link: Which part do you not understand?
[11:26] <x_link> deb url-of-repository release-to-use components-to-use
[11:26] <x_link> deb url-of-repository release-to-use components-to-use
[11:26] <x_link> But then it says that I should change the url-of-repositories
[11:27] <x_link> err
[11:27] <x_link> That was not the repo I just showed, sorry.
[11:27] <x_link> deb http://mirror3.ubuntu.com/ feisty-seveas extras freenx
[11:27] <x_link> deb-src http://mirror3.ubuntu.com/ feisty-seveas extras freenx
[11:27] <x_link> That is.
[11:27] <ardchoille> That is for freenx stuff, not w32codecs
[11:27] <x_link> ok
[11:28] <x_link> I'm reading on the link you just gave me.
[11:28] <jacob> does anyone have any experience with WINE and could help me?
[11:29] <ardchoille> x_link: this example  deb http://mirror3.ubuntu.com/ feisty-seveas extras freenx  has the repos for the "extras" and the "freenx" items. See the sections above the example on that page?
[11:29] <BluesKaj> evjunior09: i'm quite sure amarok can play windows media audio
[11:29] <Biovore> depends if it has DRM on it.. linux can't handle the DRM
[11:30] <raylu> how do i set the resolution of my ttys?
[11:30] <evjunior09> Blueskaj: well when i tried it said unable to play file
[11:30] <evjunior09> but my mp3's worked
[11:30] <BluesKaj> who records im wma these days
[11:31] <evjunior09> blueskaj: yeah i have no idea
[11:31] <evjunior09> i hate wma
[11:31] <ardchoille> evjunior09: The mp3's likely weren't DRM, and the wma was?
[11:31] <BluesKaj> evjunior09:  a hint ..convert your wma files to mp3 or ogg or whatever you want with soundKonverter
[11:31] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: My question is who in their right mind would record/encode in a proprietary format.
[11:31] <twosouls82> soundKonverter is a killer app
[11:32] <Biovore> ardchoille: I don't know.. but I see alot of wma wmv stuff out there..
[11:33] <BluesKaj> rhetorical question no doubt ardchoille ...i can't understand anyone doing it either :)
[11:33] <ardchoille> :)
[11:33] <raylu> so...set tty resolution? anyone?
[11:33] <evjunior09> What would SoundKonverter be under? i installed it with the command line
[11:33] <evjunior09> never mind
[11:33] <evjunior09> got it
[11:33] <BluesKaj> multimedia
[11:33] <vzduch> as to WMA.. I have a similar problem, Audacious being unable to play a WMA webradio stream, even though the WMA plugin is installed & active
[11:33] <vzduch> it plays fine w/ VLC though
[11:34] <ardchoille> raylu: I added a code to the end of my kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst. the code I added was:  vga=791
[11:34] <ardchoille> iirc, that is for 1024x768 for my tty's
[11:34] <Biovore> vzduch: amarok uses xine as the backend.. so if xine can play it.. then aramok can..
[11:34] <BluesKaj> try amarok , vzduch...it will play wm streams
[11:35] <vzduch> I don't use Amarok as long as it doesn't do proper gapless play :)
[11:35] <evjunior09> how come my .wma file wont show up on konverter? i click add file and nothing happens
[11:36] <vzduch> gonna try again when 1.5.0 (or was it 2.0?) comes out
[11:36] <klobster> !runlevel
[11:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:36] <vzduch> for Audacious I have the wonderful xmms-crossfade plugin that does gapless play absolutely nicely :)
[11:37] <klobster> that debian bot was very helpfull
[11:37] <ardchoille> klobster: lol
[11:37] <raylu> \=
[11:37] <vzduch> klobster: only it probably won't help you very much as *buntu runlevels are configured differently from most other Linuxen
[11:38] <klobster> vzduch: same as debian, no?
[11:38] <Biovore> yup
[11:38] <klobster>  /etc/rcX.d right?
[11:38] <Biovore> I think everything is in runlevel 2
[11:38] <vzduch> klobster: to my knowledge, Debian runlevels are configured the traditional way, whereas in *buntu multi-user level w/ X autostart is already in runlevel 2
[11:40] <klobster> debian runlevels are the same as that.
[11:40] <yiannis852> hi all!
[11:42] <vzduch> klobster: really?  last time I used a nearer Debian derivate than *buntu (Kanotix (Debian-testing/-sid)) it was the traditional way, i.e. rl 2 == multiuser w/o X, rl 3 == multiuser w/ manual X start, rl 5 == multiuser w/ automatic X start
[11:43] <raylu> o.0
[11:43] <raylu> i never got these seemingly-random runlevel assignments
[11:43] <klobster> vzduch: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/212
[11:43] <Biovore> I think 2-5 are all the same thing on ubuntu and debian
[11:43] <raylu> what about 4? why doesn't ubuntu just make the current 6 3 instead?
[11:43] <raylu> they are
[11:44] <Biovore> there just "run levels"  You can make them anyrthing you want..
[11:44] <raylu> i can't think of a use for 3
[11:44] <raylu> let alone 4 and 5
[11:44] <ekrengel> i keep seeing these when i run apt-get update
[11:44] <ekrengel> Ign http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/multiverse Translation-en_US
[11:45] <ekrengel> all with the Translation-en_US at the end
[11:45] <ekrengel> that are Ign
[11:45] <ekrengel> anyone know how to stop those?
[11:46] <vzduch> raylu: as I said, traditional division of runlevels: 0 == shutdown, 1 == single-user, text mode, 2 == multi-user, text mode, 3 == multi-user, text mode w/ optional X server, 4 == user-defined, 5 == multi-user, graphical mode (X autostart), 6 == reboot
[11:46] <Biovore> ^ that redhat and suse
[11:48] <level1> the 64 bit install cd is compatible with intel 64 bit right?
[11:49] <level1> 64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD:  Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon). If you have a non-64-bit processor made by AMD, or if you need full support for 32-bit code, use the Intel x86 images instead.
[11:49] <raylu> vzduch, oh, i see
[11:49] <level1> I think thats a little confusing and misleading
[11:49] <raylu> why doesn't ubuntu use that and
[11:49] <raylu> how do i set my tty resolution?
[11:50] <raylu> level1, i've never seen 64 with "intel" next to it. it's always "64" or "amd64
[11:50] <raylu> "
[11:51] <level1> raylu: lol, I know why that is, but to new and unsophisticated users that don't like to take chances, thats the most confusing thing ever
[11:51] <level1> raylu: I think it should say "64 bit installer: choose this is you have a 64 bit intel or amd cpu.  Choose 32 bit if you are unsure."
[11:52] <raylu> hrm =\
[11:52] <level1> no need to confuse people
[11:52] <raylu> i think any alternative would be misleading in any other way
[11:52] <raylu> *in another way
[11:54] <level1> since I have a 64 bit cpu now, I should go ahead and get a 64 OS, right?  theres no real reason to stick with 32 bit, right?
[11:54] <vzduch> [23:51:48]  <@le-helper> [Distrowatch]  Distribution Release: Ubuntu Christian Edition 3.3
[11:54] <Ace2016> omg
[11:55] <Ace2016> why is there a Ubuntu Christian Edition???
[11:55] <vzduch> level1: well, there is, if you want to use proprietary software, like e.g. gfx drivers or Flash
[11:55] <level1> bring Christians to linux not linux users to Christianity, right
[11:55] <Biovore> Ace2016: because someone made one..
[11:55] <vzduch> Ace2016: don't ask me, it's there ;)
[11:55] <level1> vzduch: what about the nvidia drivers?
[11:55] <vzduch> level1: 32-bit only
[11:56] <Ace2016> nvidia drivers are great :)
[11:56] <Biovore> vzduch: The other thing that makes runlevels a mute point on ubuntu is that fact feisty dosn't uses init.
[11:56] <Ace2016> doesn't it?
[11:56] <vzduch> Biovore: indeed
[11:56] <ardchoille> s/mute/moot/
[11:56] <Ace2016> but i run /etc/init.d/kdm restart   <<< thats init right???
[11:56] <level1> Ace2016: not so great if they force me to stay with 32 bit... thats annoying
[11:56] <ekrengel> I've gotten rid of the "Ign" from apt get with this command
[11:56] <ekrengel> unset LANG LANGUAGE
[11:57] <ekrengel> but it resets itself everytime i open up a new terminal
[11:57] <Biovore> Ace2016: no.. thats a script that can start/stop/restart kdm
[11:57] <klobster> Ace2016: that is just a script
[11:57] <klobster> nvm
[11:57] <Ace2016> level1: the boost in speed that the nvidia driver gives over nv is greater than the one you get from running 64bit
[11:57] <Biovore> see: startup.ubuntu.com for the init replacement
[11:57] <klobster> but kubuntu DOES use rc?.d and that is runlevels
[11:58] <Ace2016> but isn't that script the one that is run on startup???
[11:58] <jacob> okay, installed warcraft and the frozen throne with wine, what would be the command to open frozen throne.exe with wine in opengl?
[11:58] <ekrengel> maybe i'll just put that in .bashrc and see if that works
[11:58] <level1> Ace2016: perhaps, that doesn't change the fact that I could be running nvidia drivers *and* 64 bit apps if they just took the time to recompile it
[11:59] <ekrengel> yup that works
[11:59] <ekrengel> : P
[11:59] <Ace2016> wait a sec
[12:00] <level1> vzduch: if nvidia doesn't have 64 bit drivers, why does this page exsist? http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_100.14.11.html
[12:00] <jtong> hi all
[12:00] <Ace2016> level1: they do have a 64bit driver, did you even check their web site?
[12:00] <Ace2016> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_100.14.06.html
[12:00] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hi
[12:00] <Ace2016> thats the beta one for all the latest cards, i'm using the 32bit one now ;)
[12:01] <level1> Ace2016: vzduch said they didn't...
[12:01] <vzduch> might be that it's just the newest driver they have a 64bit variant of
[12:01] <Ace2016> maybe ubuntu doesn't have it because its beta
[12:01] <vzduch> but to my knowledge the versions that are in the repos are 32-bit only
[12:02] <Ace2016> http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[12:02] <Ace2016> there are all the drivers
[12:02] <Ace2016> and you want the amd64 one right?
[12:03] <Ace2016> whats IA64? is it different from amd64?
[12:03] <adenicio> can wine install .exe games an programmes?
[12:04] <level1> adenicio: why not?
[12:04] <level1> adenicio: with wine, the philosophy is "try it and see"
[12:05] <adenicio> level1: ok i dont have dsl so it taking a while to download
[12:05] <level1> Ace2016: I'd like to know what the difference is too.  As far as I can tell, they are binary compatable, so theres no real difference
[12:05] <Ace2016> found it:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EM64T#Intel_64
[12:06] <adenicio> do anyone know glovepie for the wiimote?does it work on linux?the bleuthoot feity 7.04 does not detect my wiimote
[12:07] <jacob> hey guys
[12:07] <jacob> how would i open frozen throne.exe with WINE in opengl
[12:08] <level1> jacob: well, usually, you get a command line, cd to the directory, and type "wine <program name>"
[12:09] <jacob> okay typed "wine frozen throne.exe" and nothing happened
[12:10] <ardchoille> jacob: Try:  wine frozen\ throne.exe
[12:10] <jacob> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\frozen throne.exe": Module not found
[12:10] <jacob> because i installed to a different location
[12:10] <jacob> my home folder
[12:11] <jacob> so what would i do now
[12:11] <ardchoille> jacob: I have no idea, I have never used wine. I just saw you had a space in the filename and you need to escape spaces in Linux
[12:11] <vzduch> jacob: try the 'Windows' path
[12:11] <jacob> eh?
[12:12] <jacob> its not in the windows path
[12:12] <jacob> its at...
[12:12] <jacob_> i need somebody's help
[12:12] <jacob_> this morning, i was able to install mplayer to watch quicktime movies
[12:12] <vzduch> jacob: 'C:\\Program\ Files\\$subfolderName\\frozen\ throne.exe'
[12:13] <jacob> so
[12:13] <jacob> type win and that?
[12:13] <jacob_> but i did not know that it also plays realplayer
[12:13] <jacob_> now i go to the nova pbs site and i'm no longer able to view videos in realplayer
[12:14] <jacob_> which it used to work when i had realplayer without mplayer
[12:14] <Biovore> jacob_: do you have the realvideo stuff install for mplayer?