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=== leperkhanz is nervous to reboot, since sometimes in gutsy, a reboot will come back to a corrupt file system.
leperkhanzBut since compiz isn't currently running....02:59
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leperkhanzAnyone else getting a broken compiz?03:16
leperkhanzOver all gutsy IS getting more stable, but now compiz patently refuses to work.  Sad Face.03:16
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DanaGI've gotten Compiz to work by disabling it through "desktop effects" and manually re-enabling it after the session has begun.03:18
DanaGI mean, s/re-enabling/running/03:18
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thomp1is there some way to fix the 30 sec delay before grub issue on macbook efi03:24
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jmgguys my firefox preferences is fscked and firefox is showing the wrong fonts03:40
jmgideas?03:40
jmgits actually a crash03:40
jmg*** glibc detected *** /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: free(): invalid pointer: 0x08c70ca0 ***03:41
Toma-move your .firefox folder?03:41
jmgyou mean .mozilla03:41
Toma-hmm both?03:42
jmg.mozilla/firefox03:42
Toma-not sure where my firefox folder came from..03:42
jmgmv .mozilla/firefox .mozilla/firefox.old03:42
jmgthere is no .firefox03:42
Toma-ok03:42
jmgunless you ran one of the mofoco builds03:42
jmgremoving it has no effect03:43
Toma-well file a bug?03:43
jmgyah just apt-get upgrading03:43
jmgi notice a new build of libc603:45
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ulysses_does this .22 kernel already have the new scheduler?03:45
Toma-CFS is in .2303:46
ulysses_gutsy seems a little unresponsive to me compared to feisty03:46
jmgulysses_: are you using xgl/compiz?03:46
ulysses_yep03:47
jmgstrange, i find it much better03:47
ulysses_one thing that never happened before is the mouse cursor skipping03:47
ulysses_scrolling down...03:47
ulysses_i'll try to use a vanilla kernel, or an older one03:48
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philip__anyone know if 2.6.23 out? CFS included?04:32
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ulysses_http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.16.23.tar.bz204:35
ulysses_cfs is in04:35
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ulysses_ops04:36
ulysses_philip__: it is in rc104:37
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pawanhi05:21
pawancan seen options in xmms player05:21
pawanhttp://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1tj6.png05:21
pawanmy problem05:25
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voidmageinteresting fact about gutsy and compiz and nvidia 8600gt: i get 60fps in ut2004 according to the fps counter, but it skips a lot of frames too06:43
voidmagethis is with the "unmanage fullscreen windows" setting checked06:43
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jmgguys firefox is fscked on my gutsy07:55
jmg*** glibc detected *** /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: double free or corruption (out): 0x091903c0 ***07:55
jmg*** glibc detected *** /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: free(): invalid pointer: 0x08dfb420 ***07:57
jmggoing to test with granparadiso07:58
jmg*** glibc detected *** /usr/lib/firefox-granparadiso/firefox-granparadiso-bin: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x08e434a0 ***08:00
jmgsuspect glibc issue?08:00
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xnixive compiled my own kernel package and installed that, but am having trouble generating my ouwn l-r-m package or manually getting nvidia drivers installed/working on my kernel08:16
xnixdoes anyone have experience with this?08:17
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Sebastianjmg: glibc is only the messenger.08:28
jmgSebastian: i see08:29
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DanaGHow do I get hal to NOT try to mount ntfs RW?08:33
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SeveredCrossEdit the fstab entry to say ro?08:35
DanaGAah, I just had to manually pmount-hal it.08:37
DanaGFor some reason, Gnome's auto-mounting was trying to mount it RW.08:38
DanaGNTFS-3G reeeeeeeally needs an automatic fallback to RO on mount failure!08:38
SeveredCrossCan't you add the on-errors=remount-ro option?08:39
SeveredCrossEr, I think it's just "errors=remount-ro"08:39
SeveredCrossOr does that only work for ext3 and such?08:39
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DanaGThat's only on ext3.08:51
DanaGOh, yay, now Azureus is crashing whenever I double-click an item in the list.08:51
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DanaG# An unexpected error has been detected by Java Runtime Environment:08:53
DanaG#  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0xb4727172, pid=21467, tid=308420084808:53
SeveredCrossAzureus is crashy as all hell.08:55
SeveredCrossI couldn't get it to start up much less do anything08:55
SeveredCrossI had to just unzip the tarball from the website.08:55
SeveredCrossSomething is at issue with gij.08:55
SeveredCrossI think.08:55
DanaGI'm using Java 6, though.08:57
DanaGI'll try it with 1.5, also.08:57
DanaGhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/azureus/+bug/6802008:57
ubotuLaunchpad bug 68020 in azureus "Azureus crashes just after startup (attempt to show sliding notification window)" [Undecided,Confirmed] 08:57
DanaGOddly, mine shows that just fine, but going to "Details" crashes it.08:57
SeveredCrossHmm.08:57
SeveredCrossI couldn't get azureus to install without installing gij08:57
DanaGOdd, with 1.5:   SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0xb4727172, pid=21467, tid=308420084808:58
DanaGer08:58
DanaG#  Internal Error (53484152454432554E54494D450E43505001A3), pid=21905, tid=308453547208:58
DanaGI'll try with gcj.08:59
DanaGAlso, the plugin installation wizard seems to be missing.08:59
DanaGOkay, gcj can't do other-language characters.09:02
DanaGYay, the package that fixes that linked bug fixes mine, too.09:06
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DanaGI still don't know where the plugin wizard is, though.09:28
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azihello, i'm trying to install the latest gutsy (it's the only distro supporting my graphic card) but after i set up the disks, it starts installing and then the installation wizzard disapairs.. anyone happens to know what's going on?10:27
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stdinazi: the installer is a bit buggy right now, you could try installing feisty then upgrading to gutsy10:35
azistdin: there is no way for me to install feisty10:37
azistdin: acutally i'd like to have feisty working10:38
azistdin: but X doesn't start as i have a new graphic card, the alternate CD is too buggy for real life use10:38
stdinazi: try the alternate cd10:38
azistdin: so, i'm trying to use this one and then to downgrade to feisty.. will that be possible?10:38
stdinazi: no, you can not downgrade10:39
azistdin: but will I be left with a stable system if i'll be able to install gutsy?10:39
azistdin: i'm in a bad situation ;l10:39
stdinazi: gutsy isn't classed as "stable", but I haven't had too many problems, use the alternate cd for feisty and upgrade to gutsy10:40
azistdin: i can't use the alternate cd, it's more buggy than gutsy installer10:41
azistdin: in the middle of the installation my keyboard stops working etc..10:41
stdinazi: the alternate installer is more stable than the GUI installer, always worked here10:42
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azistdin: it looks that after a bit of hacking, I was able to install gutsy :-)10:47
clariahi,10:49
clariaif i want to change to a text console with strg+alt+f2, i only get a black screen10:49
clariathe same with startup. there is no output unless gdm starts and the login screen appears.10:51
DanaGOh, if you put "fbcon" in /etc/modules, it may fix the framebuffer console.10:53
DanaGI had to do that on my system.10:54
DanaGRight now, you can try blindly logging in and doing "sudo modprobe fbcon".10:54
DanaGThen wait a moment and enter your password again, of course.10:54
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clariawow, you are great!! That works10:57
clariaThanks10:57
DanaGI really need to post a note about that in the relevant bug report, if there is one.10:58
DanaGSomehow, fbcon is not being loaded in the initramfs.10:58
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DanaGNow I need to go to sleep.10:59
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DanaGArgh, "Restart Azureus" is missing from the menu, also.11:13
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xstasihi12:00
xstasii just upgraded to gutsy12:00
xstasiin the menus, when i pass the mouse over stuff, it doesn't get highlighted12:00
xstasiand in GNOME's tasklist, windows have no borders12:01
xstasiis that normal?12:01
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geserbut the normal windows have borders?12:16
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xstasigeser, yes they do12:22
xstasii'm running compiz fusion from ubuntu official12:22
hastesaverhi, debtags doesn't seem to work for me -- it used to work on Feisty IIRC12:30
hastesaverand packagesearch has broken dependencies12:31
Hobbseeoh, so it does12:32
Hobbseehastesaver: fixed.12:34
Hobbsee(the packagesearch)12:34
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hastesaverwow, that was incredible :-)12:36
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Hobbsee:012:37
Hobbsee* :)12:37
Hobbseei thought we got all those rebuilds.  seems now12:39
Hobbseeer, not12:39
Hobbseesarah@LongPointyStick:~$ apt-cache unmet -i | grep Package | wc -l12:39
Hobbsee11512:39
Hobbseeouch.12:39
geserHobbsee: last I looked for a rebuild it failed to build12:40
geserit = packagesearch12:41
Hobbseehah.  only passed on sparc12:41
Hobbseeoh, point12:41
Hobbseegeser: fudge.  any idea if it works with the new libept?12:41
geserI haven't tried yet12:42
Hobbseegeser: ah, no, i'ts dead.12:42
Hobbseedebian b ug #42900512:43
Hobbseedebian bug #42900512:43
geserfound the bug now too12:43
Hobbseehastesaver: okay, in that case, it's *not* fixed, and wont be until debian fixes it.12:43
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Hobbsees/builds/works/12:45
hastesaverHobbsee: hmm... ok, thanks anyway. `apt-cache show` and `debtags show` don't show me tags either BTW... is that a bug or are they supposed to work that way?12:46
Hobbseeno idea - i only see debtags used from within adept12:47
hastesaverok. they used to show tags some time ago, maybe it was changed intentionally. Anyway ept-cache show works12:48
geserhave all packages tags already?12:49
geserapt-cache show arj shows me the tags for this package12:49
hastesaverhmm... right. Funny, for most packages I tried ("mutt", say) apt-cache doesn't show and ept-cache shows12:51
stdindebtags show arj shows them too12:51
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leperkhanzAnyone wanna help me figure out what I'm missing to make Emerald themes work?12:57
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geserhave you emerald running?12:57
leperkhanzCould not acquire decoration manager selection on screen 0 display ":0.012:58
leperkhanzcompiz itself is running quite nicely though.12:58
leperkhanz:D12:58
gesercompiz itself starts {gtk,kde}-window-decorator by default12:59
geseryou have to start emerald with emerald --replace &12:59
leperkhanzSuccess!01:00
leperkhanzWill it start automagically from now on?01:00
=== Hobbsee wishes compiz would just stop crashing.
Hobbseeand actually obey workspaces.01:00
geserno, you have to start it on every login01:00
leperkhanzNow if I had more than one theme... LOL01:01
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gesergrab the emerald-themes package from feisty or go to www.gnome-look.org01:02
xstasileperkhanz, you should have the emerald theme manager01:02
xstasilet him download the themes from SVN01:02
xstasi:)01:02
leperkhanzyeah, I have that.01:02
leperkhanzbut there's only one theme in it.  "untitled" and it's redish.01:02
xstasigo to the Repositories tab01:03
xstasiand make him fetch GPL'd (or non GPL'd too) themes01:03
leperkhanzdid both of those.01:06
leperkhanzAh wait, I need to learn how to read.01:07
leperkhanzLOL01:07
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xstasi:P01:08
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leperkhanzw00t.  Installed subversion, getting themes now. :D01:11
leperkhanzthere are some hiddeous themes in here. lOL01:14
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mikkaelthe third screenshot shows the new ksplash theme of kubuntu tribe 3: http://shots.linuxquestions.org/?linux_distribution=Kubuntu%207.10%20Gutsy%20Gibbon%20Tribe%203 why isnt this one on my updated gutsy installation ? the new desktop, color scheme, whatever are applied.01:45
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squeeI'm trying to run compiz but i keep getting "/usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Warn: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32" and then it segfaults.  glxinfo -t shows that I am running in 24 bit, so what else could it be?02:00
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stdinHobbsee: have you noticed the description of the nvidia-glx packages is wrong?02:47
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Hobbseestdin: nope02:51
stdinHobbsee: "To enable the driver, run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"." that's the old command02:52
Hobbseestdin: provide a patch?  :)02:52
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stdinHobbsee: wouldn't that mean I have to grab the whole l-r-m source :p02:54
Hobbseestdin: looks like it.02:54
Hobbseehmm, that doesnt seem to be in bzr02:55
stdinman that's overkill for a small change :p02:55
Hobbseestdin: on european monday, go to #ubuntu-kernel, and ask benc what he'd like to do - give him what's there now, and waht youd' like it changed to02:55
Hobbseeerm...reality check - how do you expect to be able to make such a change without having the source there?02:56
Hobbseehe may tell you to make a patch, or just add it in as is02:56
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Hobbseeactually, it may well be in git.02:56
stdinoh well, i've reported it in lp anyway02:57
Hobbseedid you say what you wanted it changed to?02:58
stdinumm, let me check :p I don't actually use nvidia02:58
stdinHobbsee: To enable the driver, run "sudo nvidia-xconfig".02:58
Hobbseeright.  i would mentoin that bug to benc on monday, though02:59
Hobbseehe should be doing a l-r-m upload soon03:00
stdinok, I'll tell him then03:00
Hobbseecool03:00
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tattersBeen trying to install vmware-server vmmon module keeps failing ..http://pastebin.com/m439f85105:03
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tattershttp://pastebin.com/m439f85105:03
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tattersanyone managed to get vmware server up n running in gutsy?05:04
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alesanhi06:00
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sebsebsebI want to upgrade  Feisty to the latest Gutsy alpha,  so  I run the get update command open up the updater and yeah,  however upgrading to Gutsy is not an option for me here.  I need to turn something on so that it becomes an option or?06:39
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askandIs there anyone else who dont have internet after last update?06:45
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PriceChildaskand, how do you get your internet?07:00
PriceChildelephant?07:00
askandPriceChild elephant?07:00
PriceChilddo you wish for it and it comes?07:00
PriceChildor does it come through ethernet?07:00
PriceChildor perhaps a wireless card?07:00
PriceChildusb broadband modem?07:00
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askandPriceChild: hrm it comes trough a wireless usbthing..certainly trough an elephant :P07:01
askandPriceChild: I use network managers roaming mode but it wont connect anymore..'07:04
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sq89hi! when I run `update-manager -d`, I don't get any notice about the gutsy testing version. I'd like to help testing the improved dual-monitor stuff. any idea what I should do?07:09
sq89got the newest version of update-manager, and just apt-get updated07:11
sq89done %s/feisty/gutsy/g now, will probably work07:15
sq89in /etc/apt/sources.list07:15
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PriceChildaskand, hey sorry.07:23
PriceChildaskand, pastebin output of lspci please07:23
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PriceChildsq89, gksudo update-manager -c -d should do it I think07:23
sq89PriceChild: tried that, but I keep getting either "warning: could not initiate dbus", "current dist not found in meta-release file" or both07:24
PriceChildmeh its probably broken anyway... just replace feisty with gutsy in sources list07:25
PriceChildupdate, upgrade, dist-upgrade07:25
PriceChildand be aware this is a one way operation07:25
sq89ok, I'll try that07:25
PriceChildDon't do this on any mission critical system.07:25
sq89did it for the previous versions too and that worked07:25
PriceChildIt _WILL_ break at some point07:25
PriceChildand ensure you have the ubuntu-desktop metapackage installed07:25
sq89I'm used to broken systems, I'm doing it all the time :-)07:25
PriceChildor kubuntu-desktop etc.07:25
sq89installing that now, thanks07:26
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OldPinkhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=512448 - please?08:24
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crysalysanyone know how to configure wine and install dvd decrypter?08:26
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poningruwhy...?08:29
poningru!wine | crysalys08:29
ubotucrysalys: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.08:29
crysalysponingru: i need a program to create dvd iso and then copy to a disk08:31
poningrugenisoimg or something like that08:33
poningru!info geniso08:33
ubotuPackage geniso does not exist in gutsy08:33
poningru!info genisoimage08:33
ubotugenisoimage: Creates ISO-9660 CD-ROM filesystem images. In component main, is optional. Version 9:1.1.6-1 (gutsy), package size 551 kB, installed size 1348 kB08:33
poningrucrysalys: is it a data? or video?08:33
crysalysponingru: video08:34
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Clinton__Can someone tell me which wine version is currently planned for inclusion into feisty+1?08:37
poningrufound it08:38
poningrudoh08:38
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Clinton__is there anyone here who can do a quick apt-cache search to tell me what version of whine is currently in feisty+1?09:04
crdlb!info wine gutsy09:06
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.41-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 31833 kB, installed size 99684 kB09:06
Clinton__!info wine gutsy09:06
Clinton__hrm... and how stable is feisty+1 currently considered?09:07
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sq89Clinton__: some people blogged about using it daily, but every update might break your installation permanently09:08
Clinton__how long between updates?09:08
crdlbif you use gutsy, you should expect breakage09:09
sq89I guess there are updates every day, you can choose not to install them09:09
crdlbit may work fine, but you should never rely on that09:09
Clinton__*nod*09:09
sq89the tribe releases are considered a little bit more stable I think, so you could use them and don't update until the next tribe09:09
Clinton__alright, thanks for your info guys09:10
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mon^rchim going to try gutsy... any suggestions?09:36
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adam__hi there09:45
adam__i heard that the desktop effects will be enabled by default in gutsy. Will it be enabled using xgl as well?09:46
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kenroI can't phrase a good question, so let's just dive heaflong into stupidity: Why is udevd eating 70%+ of my cpu?10:17
kenro710 Seems to be the only one that'll work on my lappy. I can't wait til hte gibbno is released officially.10:20
kenroAny more Gibbno clubmembers out there having trouble with udevd?10:21
finalbetayes10:21
finalbetasearch launchpad, I found the bug when I had the problem10:21
kenroIs a bug then?10:21
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kenrobot attack10:22
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kenroapparantly ineffectual...10:22
finalbeta70% cpu hardly seems like normal behaviour10:22
kenroIt isn't.10:22
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Catsceotest10:23
Catsceook, no +m here10:23
finalbetaFreedomnet is probably under attack 24/7 by some kid.10:23
kenroIs established as a bug? Or is spurious/kneejerk?10:23
kenrofinalbeta: You said you found it listed on a bugtracker?10:25
kenroudevd?10:25
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finalbetaYes, can't find it right now, launchpad is a mess10:25
finalbetapeople don't report against gutsy but against ubuntu, so bleh10:26
finalbetaI'f i'm correct, removing evms and rebooting solved the issue10:26
finalbetabut if you need evms, whatever it does, then that's not an option10:26
kenrochecking the status of my file repo, evms10:27
finalbetaLaunchpad has gotten sourceforge slow.10:29
finalbetaCan't find it, lost in cyberspace...10:31
kenroHaHaHa evms is for when you have lots of little hdd spread remotely that should function as one HDD.10:31
kenroAnd I have it installed. Beats me why. Maybe something to do with that vinum? manager kubuntu installs stock.10:33
kenromdadm10:33
kenroIf I could figure out how to unlace that without unzipping my entire system...10:34
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kenroI kinda figured mdadm would cause problems, as I didn't even need it. hmmm... now kde sysmon cpu meter has a band of orange along the top.10:37
kenrofinalbeta: Still there?10:38
finalbetaback now10:38
kenroah10:38
finalbetahad to get my USB disk to mount under Gusty, something that's half broken10:39
kenroWell... thanks for reminding me of md vol management...10:39
finalbetatwo of my disks no longer work, one of my disks makes weird noises when I hook it up to a gutsy PC :p10:39
kenroyou do md?10:40
finalbetaNo, and I just removed evms and the 100% CPU thing was solved10:40
kenroyou do multidisk?10:40
kenrooh10:40
finalbetano, standard laptop10:40
kenrosorry, slow typist10:41
masterlokihow long has anyone ran gusty continuously with out having to restart it10:41
finalbetaYou lucky, found the url to the bugreport in this firefox (just changed PC's, I'm here though a VNC session)10:41
finalbetabug 12305010:42
ubotuLaunchpad bug 123050 in udev "udevd uses 140% CPU (dup-of: 115616)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12305010:42
ubotuLaunchpad bug 115616 in evms "Device-mapper errors: dm-linear, lookup failed" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11561610:42
kenro140%!?10:42
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kenroNot possible.10:42
finalbetaHe gives it a nice explanation :p10:42
concept10is there some ubuntu windows installer similar to the debian one?10:43
kenroWell, my system now minus evms, udevd still psychotic, and a band of bad niceness across my cpu meter.10:44
kenrorenice udevd?10:44
finalbetareboot the system10:45
finalbetaor just halt the process10:46
finalbetanext time you boot it wont be acting nuts10:46
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kenrooh right phooey. With all these other things I've started. What about mdadm? Should that come off, too?10:46
finalbetano10:47
kenroNo? I have no volume arrays...10:48
finalbetait's not needed to fix the 100% cpu thing10:49
finalbetashould you remove it or not10:49
finalbetait's your own system, you figure that one out.10:49
kenroRight.10:49
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kenromasterloki:  BTW, I ran 710 for 8 hours once without reboot.10:51
kenrofinalbeta:  I have no idea why the uninstall was so smooth this time. I remember it wanting to take things I wanted to stay on.10:53
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kenromasterloki:  I'm sure, with this udev problem, I almost broke something, but I proved to myself that a 43 year old could still stay up all night and be bright-n-bushy come morning. Of course, there were times during the day I went narcoleptic and drooled tobacco all over myself.10:55
kenroThat last part was just for effect, and you'll never know whether I'm lieing about it. :P10:57
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DShepherdman. anyone here on gutsy and have played with multiple monitors? fiesty so not so bad with an nvidia card.. but it doesnt seem to autodetect stuff. What's your experience with gutsy and mutiple monitors like?11:01
masterlokithat is kewl so far I have ran gusty for 24+ hours and not have to reboot it11:02
techIIhmm, probably should get around to doing that...11:02
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finalbetaWow, installing flash wroked straight from inside firefox in Gutsy11:03
kenroMuch better, now.11:03
DShepherdfinalbeta, did it install the firefox from the repos? or the one from the macromedia's website/11:03
DShepherds/firefox/flash11:04
finalbetaI'm guessing macromedia's site11:04
finalbetabut they could have modded firefox11:04
finalbetamacromedia's site11:04
DShepherdfinalbeta, ok....hmm11:05
kenroI still say I had multidisk management only because I thought something I wanted would be uninstalled...11:07
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kenrofinalbeta: thanks.11:08
kenroAnyone know a good copy of festival for 710?11:10
kenrotj I want my lappy to sound like Captain Pecard...11:13
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mon^rchcan anyone help me get my four desktops back11:33
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xstAccording to the blueprints xorg7.3 will be a part of gutsy. Does anyone know when it will be implemented in any of the test CDs?11:42
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sq89hi! my laptop display is fine when I've removed /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but displayconfig-gtk won't start. is there any way to create a xorg.conf based on my current settings? I've tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh, but xorg didn't want to star then11:50
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