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jacob_all i did was install mplayer from the terminal12:15
ruzzzhelp me please12:15
ruzzzi bad speak english,but ...12:15
ruzzzi download kubuntu and ubuntu iso-images, write on CD-RW by NERO 7, start, but error:12:15
ruzzz(initramfs)[72.144000]  sdb: assuming drive cashe: write through12:15
Phantomhelp mister wizard how do I get vmware to install ?12:15
jacobTHIS is where it at i think12:15
jacobwine z:\home\jacob\warcraft iii\frozen throne.exe12:15
ardchoilleruzzz: What is your native language?12:15
jacobwithout the wine at front12:15
jacob_i want to remove mplayer and i need somebody to help me install quicktime12:15
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ruzzzrussian12:16
Biovore!vmware12:16
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers12:16
Biovore!ru12:16
ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke12:16
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ardchoilleruzzz: Have you tried asking in #ubuntu-ru ?12:16
vzduchjacob: then you should be able to start it w/ that path12:16
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jacobokay i typed in wine z:\home\jacob\warcraft iii\frozen throne.exe - opengl12:16
jacob_can you tell me how to make it work in that path?12:16
jacoband it says12:16
PhantomI have downloaded the file but don't know how to make it install ?12:16
corey_could someont tell me how i can install Tar.gz files please..12:16
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jacobwine: cannot find 'z:homejacobwarcraft'12:17
ruzzzyes, but ...12:17
Biovorecorey_: tar.gz is like a zip file..12:17
ardchoillecorey_: What app is it? You may not need to compile12:17
ruzzz:(12:17
corey_9999999Frostwire12:17
corey_**Frostwire12:17
ardchoille!frostwire12:17
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire12:17
vzduchjacob: put the path in "" if you don't know how to use escape characters :)12:17
jacob_i'm new to linux, so if your able, i need you to be a bit more specific please12:18
jacob_i don't know how to do that12:18
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ardchoillejacob_: I think he was talking to the other jacob12:18
raylucorey_, do you still need help with a .tar.gz?12:18
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vzduchjacob: wine "z:\home\jacob\warcraft iii\frozen throne.exe"   _with_ the quotation marks12:18
jacob_oh12:18
rayluone of you needs to change your nick :P12:18
adeniciou do noting lol,u cant do anything but reinstall it12:18
ardchoilleYEs, it's confusing12:19
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rayluw00t.12:19
ardchoillejfrias: Thank you :)12:19
raylunow, if only i could change my tty's resolution12:19
Phantomthe tar file needs to be extracted I have done that part I need help with the next step12:19
ardchoilleraylu: You can put a code at the end of the kernel line12:19
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BiovorePhantom: that depends on what it is..12:19
rayluardchoille, huh?12:19
jacobsays the same thing vzduch12:20
BiovoreBiovore: could try looking for a readme file. or something..12:20
vzduchhmm..12:20
ardchoilleraylu: I added a code to the end of my kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst. the code I added was:  vga=79112:20
ruzzzi tried asking in #ubuntu-ru! But it and has not helped me!12:20
jacobanyway u can like remotely help me12:20
ardchoilleraylu: That is for 1024x768 res in tty's12:20
jfriascan somebody help me install quicktime12:20
rayluoh12:20
ardchoille!quicktime12:20
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:20
vzduchjacob: thing that always should work: change to the directory where the .exe resides and execute from there, without giving a path12:20
PhantomBiovvore: I have a file that says installer but I how do I run it ? using ubuntu 7.0412:21
jacobwhat?!??!12:21
ardchoillejacob: Do you know how to navigate your file system?12:21
BiovorePhantom: if its a binary executable. you can execute it by using a shell and typeing "sh ./<filename>"12:21
jacobno12:21
rayluardchoille, do you happen to have a list of the numbers for other resolutions?12:21
jacobim completely new to kubuntu, got it yesterday12:22
ardchoilleraylu: I don't remember where I put it :(12:22
PhantomBiovore: by shell you mean from the terminal ?12:22
BiovorePhantom: yup12:22
ruzzzhelp me please12:22
ruzzzi bad speak english,but ...12:22
ruzzzi download kubuntu and ubuntu iso-images, write on CD-RW by NERO 7, start, but error:12:22
ruzzzbusybox v1.1.3 (debian 1:1.1.3 - 3ubuntu 3) built-in shell(ash)12:22
ruzzz/bin/sh:can't access tty; job control turned off12:22
ruzzz(initramfs)[72.144000]  sdb: assuming drive cashe: write through12:22
vzduchjacob: cd "/home/jacob/warcraft iii/" ; wine "frozen throne.exe"12:22
vzduch!pastebin | ruzzz12:22
uboturuzzz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:22
ardchoilleraylu: This might help http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.212:22
jacobso put that in konsole vzduch?12:23
vzduchjacob: yep12:23
BiovorePhantom: or in the gui to set it as exec (+x) and then just clicking on it.. (I am not sure if that works though)12:23
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vzduchjacob: note that these are 2 commands12:23
corey_can someone explain to me in easy terms how to install Tar.gz12:24
ardchoilleraylu: section 5.3 "What VESA modes are available to me?"12:24
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Min46770wow! Free calls -  http://callfree.point-serv.com/en12:24
vzduchcorey_: depends on if you have a binary there or a source tarball12:24
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jacobfirst command says no such file or directory12:24
Biovoreruzzz: did you verify your CD after you burned it?12:24
ardchoillecorey_: Have you looked at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire  ?12:24
jtonghi guys, i'm on edgy right now and would like to upgrade to vim712:24
vzduchjacob: then the path is not correct12:24
jacobill just reinstall it to the "windows" directory12:24
jacobyeah i installed it to my home folder12:24
rayluardchoille, ok, here goes with 795; thanks12:25
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jacobbut it still makes a folder in the windows directory also12:25
jtongbut adept doesn't find vim 7, why?12:25
Biovorejtong: I belive its in backports12:25
corey_ardchoille: Yes.. i downloaded the .deb file and inside i still end up with a tar.gz file12:25
sstchuri have numlock turned off, and when I press shift + 7 (home), I expect it to highlight text from my cursor to the beginning of the line.  Instead, it gives me a 7.  Is there a way in KDE to change this behavior?12:25
jtongBiovore: what's a backport?12:25
cabroniwho i use 7zip?12:26
jtongBiovore: as in 7.04 package ported to 6.10 packge?12:26
ardchoillecorey_: According to that page, all you need to do is double-click the .deb to install12:26
MinatakuHm12:26
rayluo.012:26
raylui think it's working...12:26
MinatakuThat's an interesting link that got spammed12:26
ruzzz<Biovore> yes, ... Well, it has made Nero. It is enough of it?12:26
lockdcabroni: who uses, or how do you use?12:26
ardchoilleraylu: yay!12:26
vzduchjtong: Vim 7 is in Feisty main12:26
vzduchjtong: for Edgy, I don't know12:26
Biovorejtong: looks like everyone building it from source at the moument..12:26
cabronihow use it?12:27
jtongvzduch: yeah i know and i can build using src but i want to keep it "clean"12:27
raylucabroni, what are you trying to do?12:27
ardchoille!7zip12:27
ubotuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression12:27
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leafwhas anyone ever managed to use the modem in a T60 ?12:27
cabronidecompress a .tgz12:27
ardchoillecabroni: I think 7z files can be opened with ark12:27
MinatakuHaha12:27
MinatakuThat link is pretty slick12:28
corey_ardchoille: i did, and it opened with Ark thats it12:28
cabronibut i see that it not have a gui version12:28
rayluwewt!12:28
rayluthanks, ardchoille12:28
ardchoillecorey_: Do you have java installed?12:28
ardchoilleraylu: You're welcome :)12:28
jfriascan somebody teach me how to install quicktime for linux please12:28
ruzzzAll of you are borrowed?12:28
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jfriasit's a tar.bz2 file12:28
lockdcabroni: ark has a GUI version12:29
corey_ardchoille: unless it came preinstalled with the CD, then no12:29
x_linkardchoille: Thanks for explaing, I really appreicate it!12:29
x_link=)12:29
jfriasi don't know how to install tar.bz2 files12:29
jacobhow do i get into my files12:29
jtongwhat's the package management paradigm in ubuntu? u just use old package until they updatge the package for your release?12:29
vzduchruzzz: borrowed? (??)12:29
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raylu!bz | jfrias12:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:29
ardchoillecorey_: Then you're going to ned java to use frostwire12:29
rayluo.012:29
ruzzzor my english BAD?12:29
raylu!bz212:29
ubotuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression12:29
raylujfrias, ^12:29
ardchoillex_link: You're welcome :)12:29
jfriasyes12:29
ruzzz:( my english bad12:29
leafwjfrias:  quicktime? That's an apple thinguie, most likely not supported or only through wine for the windows version.12:29
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cabroniproblem solved, thanks :)12:30
rayluruzzz, we're not paid, if that's what you're asking12:30
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corey_Whichversion of Java do i download... oh my  this is soo confusing12:30
jfriasleafw: are you sure?12:30
raylucorey_, for what?12:30
jfriashttp://heroinewarrior.com/download.php312:30
ardchoille!java | corey_12:30
ubotucorey_: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.12:30
jfriasgo to that site12:30
jfriashttp://heroinewarrior.com/download.php312:30
x_linkardchoille: But I unfortunaly didn't understand =/12:30
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leafwhttp://www.apple.com/quicktime/12:31
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jfriasleaftw: down, where it says source code12:31
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ardchoillex_link: Ok, I'll try and help. How far have you gotten?12:31
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ardchoille!seveas12:31
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages12:31
x_linkardchoille: I haven't fixed the repo yet.12:31
x_linkI really don't get it =/12:31
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leafwjfrias: cinelerra is a totally different thing than quicktime.12:32
x_linkardchoille: Can you give me the link again?12:32
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GeekosaurGreetings and Salutatioons, y'all12:32
ruzzzAll of you are was engaged in business and you do not have business up to me12:32
x_linkAhh I found it.12:32
ardchoillex_link: Here's the link but I'll try and walk you through it  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages12:32
jfriasit says "quicktime4linux"12:32
lockdisn't cinelerra an editor and quicktime a player?12:32
jfriasleafw: it says "quicktime4linux"12:32
x_linkardchoille: Okej, thanks.12:33
jfriashttp://heroinewarrior.com/download.php312:33
ardchoillex_link: First of all, open a terminal12:33
jfriasleafw: check again12:33
x_linkardchoille: done12:33
leafwjfrias: true. Who knows what parts of quicktime it supports. I nany case, then just get it and make + make install12:33
jfriasleafw: or just put quicktime for linux in google, and click on the first result12:33
ruzzzwhat is message (install time):  /bin/sh:can't access tty; job control turned off12:33
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ardchoillex_link: You will need authentication keys for the repo. type this: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1135D46612:33
ruzzzand           (initramfs)[72.144000]  sdb: assuming drive cashe: write through12:34
x_linkDon't I need to add the repo first ardchoille ?12:34
ardchoillex_link: not yet12:34
jfriasleafw: do you know how to install tar.bz2 files?12:34
x_linkardchoille: Okej.12:34
ardchoillex_link: now type this: gpg --export --armor 1135D466 | sudo apt-key add -12:34
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[ifr0g] what does rootnoverify really men12:34
[ifr0g] mean ?12:34
leafwjfrias: that is a compresed format. Just unack it first.12:34
[ifr0g] from Grub.12:35
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leafwjfrias: tar xvjf myfile.tar.bz212:35
x_linkardchoille: Done.12:35
ruzzzWell help the beginner in Kubuntu12:35
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leafwjfrias: it menas, it contains source code, so you'll need to compile it afterwards.12:35
[ifr0g] what do they mean by ""This is useful for when an OS is outside of the area of the disk that GRUB can read, ?12:35
ardchoilleraylu: In the time it takes to open and get into kgpg, he could type the comands and be done12:35
jfriasleafw: do i need to enter root12:35
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jfriasleafw: do i need to type sudo su?12:36
rayluardchoille, in the time he mistypes the commands, he could have installed kgpg :P12:36
Prophezydo anyone know why, when i click on my Knetworkmanager in the menu nothing happens??12:36
ardchoillex_link: Ok, open your /etc/apt/sources.list as root - which ever way is comfy for you12:36
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leafwjfrias: not at all if you don't need to install system wide. You can just leave the files where they are. Or install to a local dir to your home folder.12:36
Ace2016sudo -s12:36
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x_linkardchoille: Done.12:36
ardchoilleraylu: Don't be facetious :P12:36
leafwjfrias: just unpack and read the README in the folder.12:36
ruzzzIt is a lot of you, really nobody will help12:36
jfriasleafw: ok, i'll get in root12:36
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leafwjfrias: you don't need root to unpack or to compile.12:37
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Ace2016sudo checkinstall -D instead of make install, its easier to remove it then12:37
lockdruzzz: what are you trying to do?12:37
vzduchleafw: which would commonly require a '--prefix=home/$user/$path' to be set12:37
leafwvzduch : hopefully explained in the README ...12:37
ruzzzi trying install kubuntu 7 from live cd12:37
ardchoillex_link: you on feisty?12:37
x_linkardchoille: Kubuntu 7.0412:38
ruzzzbut see message about error12:38
vzduchleafw: never really seen a README that explains that for non-technical users12:38
x_linkI guess that's Feisty.12:38
ardchoillex_link: ok, that's feisty12:38
x_linkOkej =)12:38
x_linkNew on Kubuntu =)12:38
ardchoillex_link: at the bottom of your sources, add: deb http://seveas.imbrandon.com/ feisty-seveas all12:38
vzduchjfrias: sudo apt-get install build-essential12:39
lockdruzzz: live cd as in one from the Desktop iso?12:39
leafwvzduch : some do. Otherwise 'info configure'12:39
vzduchjfrias: sudo apt-get build-dep $nameOfTheProgramYouWantToBuild12:39
leafwvzduch : .. will tell you.12:39
x_linkardchoille: Okej.12:39
jfriasok let me get my ubuntu cd to install it12:39
ardchoillex_link: and then add: deb-src http://seveas.imbrandon.com/ feisty-seveas all12:39
jfriasthx12:39
lockdruzzz: can you pastebin the error?  Or can you get online at all?12:40
x_linkardchoille: Done.12:40
lockdruzzz: err, WEb client12:40
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rayluhm...12:40
rayluso how do i set the font for my tty font now? :P12:40
ardchoillex_link: save the file. in the terminal, type: sudo apt-get update12:40
x_linkI did that12:40
x_link.12:40
ardchoillex_link: ok, now type: apt-cache search --names-only w32codecs12:41
ardchoilleand see if it's there12:41
x_linkaw32codecs - Win32 codec binaries12:41
x_linkNow sudo aptitude install w32codecs I guess?12:41
ardchoilleyes12:42
x_linkDoing that now =)12:42
ruzzzpastebin the error - it is - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?12:42
x_linkTHanks ardchoille !!12:42
x_linkruzzz: Yeah.12:42
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x_linkruzzz: That's a pastebin-site.12:42
jfriasleafw: i need to reboot, i'll be back12:43
ardchoillex_link: the gpg stuff was to add keys to your keyring to authenticate packages from the new repo. add the deb lines was to add the new repo to your sources. And, well, you know the rest :)12:43
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smaxhi12:43
ardchoillex_link: fwiw, I feel you should familiarise yourself with how the sources work with your package manager12:43
x_linkardchoille: Yeah I know all of that =)12:43
smaxi installed the package libnet1 from apt.  yet find / | grep libnet.a  does not exist.12:44
x_linkardchoille: I just didn't understand which repo to use, that's all =)12:44
x_linkardchoille: I really appreicate your help, thanks alot man!12:44
jacobOMG HOE DO I OPEN FROZEN THRONE.EXE WITH WINE!12:44
x_linkI will see ofI can watch movies with mplayer now12:44
ruzzzi dont understand what is <syntax> on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12:44
raylujacob, did you read the appdb about it?12:44
ardchoillex_link: there's only one repo. but the sections can be confusing. you're using the "all" meta section.12:44
x_linkardchoille: Cause with VLC I can't fast forward anymore or take it back, cause then the movie starts over again.12:44
rayluthis is epic failure...my CONSOLE is LAGGING at this resolution...holy crap12:44
x_linkWasn't like this in Debian.12:44
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x_linkardchoille: Okej.12:44
x_linkThanks again! =)12:45
jacobwhats appdb12:45
vzduchruzzz: normally not needed, it's for markup if you're pasting e.g. source code or something12:45
ardchoilleYou're welcome :)12:45
raylujacob, http://appdb.winehq.org12:45
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jacobi mean, not just open it12:45
jacobbut open with opengl12:45
x_linkDamn it, still can't watch movies in mplayer.12:45
ruzzzah, understand, sanx12:45
x_linkFatal error!12:45
raylujacob...if it runs fine...why do you need to specify opengl?12:45
x_linkErro opening/initializing the selection video_out (-vo) device.12:46
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x_linkI get that message.12:46
ardchoillex_link: try xine12:46
x_linkWhat does that mean?12:46
x_linkok12:46
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jacobits quite choppy12:46
ardchoillex_link: it means you need to tweak the setting for your video out device12:46
jacobi thought that would make it better?12:46
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x_linkardchoille: Ohh, where do I do that?12:46
x_linkardchoille: didn't find xine12:47
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Apollodoroshello12:47
ApollodorosHow can I set manually required reso and refresh rate in X.conf?12:47
adeniciox_link: wa is xine?12:47
ardchoillex_link: You have to install xine, but let's try to get your video working in mplayer now12:47
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ardchoille!info xine12:47
ubotuPackage xine does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas12:47
x_linkardchoille: I tried to install it, but didn't find it.12:47
ardchoilleubotu: you're full of crap too12:48
ardchoille!xine12:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:48
jacob_my disk tray doesnt want to close12:48
x_linkThere is totem-xine. But not xine only.12:48
jacob_what's wrong with it?12:48
adenicioardchoille: lol12:48
x_link!totem-xine12:48
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs12:48
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adenicio!wine12:48
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.12:48
ruzzz<x_link> And when to me will answer12:48
jacob_can somebody help me, it probably doesn't wanna close cause of ubuntu12:48
ardchoille!info xine-ui12:48
ubotuxine-ui: the xine video player, user interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.4+dfsg+cvs20061111-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1483 kB, installed size 3532 kB12:48
jacob_when i had windows it closes12:48
adenicio!gnu12:48
ubotuG(NU's) N(ot) U(nix). A project that aimed to develop a complete operating system of Free Software, which Ubuntu is based on. See http://gnu.org12:48
ardchoilleThought so, it's just named differently12:48
adenicio!windows12:49
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents12:49
adenicio!vlc12:49
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs12:49
vzduchApollodoros: refresh & sync rates are in the 'Section "Device"' for your display, syntax is self-explanatory (if you already have values for HorizSync and VertRefresh, that is)12:49
ardchoillex_link: xine-ui is xine12:49
x_linkok12:50
vzduchApollodoros: you will find the resolutions yourself, everyone should know what a resolution indication looks like ;)12:50
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ardchoillex_link: mplayer -> preferences -> Video12:50
x_linkok12:50
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adeniciooh12:50
x_linkardchoille: Then?12:50
ardchoillex_link: try a different driver12:51
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x_linkardchoille: ok12:52
x_linkardchoille: I choosed X11, now it works =)12:53
ardchoillex_link: :)12:53
adeniciohow to install the cube on kubuntu?12:53
adenicioberly etc...12:53
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ardchoilleadenicio: You might want to join #ubuntu-effects12:54
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x_linkardchoille: hehe can't get fullscreen though12:54
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ardchoillex_link: Does it work if you full screen mplayer and then start the video?12:55
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x_linkI just had to change something in video =)12:55
ardchoilleok12:56
adenicioardchoille: how many chat room it have i only got kubuntu12:57
x_linkardchoille: Thanks alot again!12:57
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ardchoillex_link: You're welcome :)12:57
vzduchadenicio: ?12:57
ardchoilleadenicio: #ubuntu-effects is for things like beryl and compiz12:57
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adenicioardchoille: no anserring me01:00
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ardchoilleadenicio: Ok, sorry about that.01:01
ardchoilleI thought if anyone would know they would01:01
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[ifr0g] how do i install grub if i dont have the stage1 in my root partion ?01:02
[ifr0g] in /boot dir.01:02
ardchoille!grub01:02
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:02
adenicio!berly01:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about berly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:02
ardchoille!beryl01:03
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects01:03
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adenicio!3ddesktop01:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 3ddesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:04
solarwaverif u do format and put windows lilo configuration is still on value??01:04
ardchoille!info 3ddesktop01:04
ubotu3ddesktop: "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.9-6 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 432 kB01:04
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vzduchgood night ppl :)01:09
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Mr_Sonomaim having a bit of a network issue, 2 computers both running kubuntu and only one can see the net through the router, from what i see in the knetworkmanager both systems seem to have recognised with the same dns and route settings01:09
Mr_Sonomawhere else should i look?01:09
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vzduchMr_Sonoma: did you forward any ports to the machine that sees the 'net?01:10
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Mr_Sonomano01:10
Mr_Sonomajust plugged it it01:10
vzduchhmm01:10
Mr_Sonomain01:10
Mr_Sonomaeven01:10
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ice9how do I install a ,rpm file?01:10
vzduchso that shouldn't be the issue01:10
Mr_Sonomaboth are running 7.0401:11
jacobokay does anyone know how i  can open warcraft 3 the frozen throne in opengl01:11
stoned!alien01:11
vzduchice9: you don't, you look for a .deb w/ that name01:11
Mr_Sonomai puzzled all night just about last night.01:11
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)01:11
BluesKaj!rpm01:11
ardchoilleice9: You don't, look in the repos for the app or find a ubuntu deb. using alien is dangerous.01:11
stonedno it isn't01:11
ardchoilleice9: Which app is it?01:11
jacobhello?01:11
stonedit CAN be01:11
stonedbut it isn't always01:11
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ice93ddesktop01:12
ardchoillestoned: If there's a question of whether it's dangerous or not, then it's dangerous, IMHO.01:12
stonedardchoille: not always.01:12
ardchoilleNo need in recommending something that has the possibility of breaking someone's system.01:13
vzduch!info 3ddesktop01:13
ubotu3ddesktop: "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.9-6 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 432 kB01:13
ardchoilleice9: Which app is the rpm?01:13
vzduchice9: sudo apt-get install 3ddesktop01:13
stonedI suppose it isn't dangerous for me, I know what I am doing01:13
solarwaverif u do format and put windows lilo configuration is still on value??01:13
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solarwaveris anyone knows if u do format and put windows lilo configuration is still on value??01:14
vzduchsolarwaver: you need to update LILO (or any boot manager, for that matter) if you change something in your setup01:14
jacobHELLO?!?!?!? does anyone know how i can open frozen throne.exe in opengl with WINE01:15
stonedjacob: #cedega01:15
bharathcan anyone plz tell me if there is a non-GUI equivalent for wireshark (ethereal)?01:15
stonedafaik it won't run without it01:15
jacobcedega costs01:15
stonedcopy protected cd01:15
stonedwine doesn't do copy protections01:15
jacobwhat?01:15
solarwaverhi vzduch how can i update lilo u mean to start after puting win with the cd01:15
jacobive already installed it01:15
stonedwhy?01:15
jacobi just need to open it with opengl now cus the texts are screwed up01:16
vzduchsolarwaver: I haven't used LILO for quite a while.. I guess you need to start your live CD after installing Win & reinstall LILO01:16
bharathsomeone, can anyone plz tell me if there is a non-GUI equivalent for wireshark (ethereal)?01:16
stonedbharath: apt-cache search sniffer01:16
stonedmaybe01:17
vzduch!lilo01:17
ubotulilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.01:17
solarwavervzduch how i reinsstal it?01:17
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vzduchsolarwaver: man lilo  should give you some clues :)01:17
solarwaverhow i reinstall grub01:17
vzduch!grub01:18
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:18
jacobhow do i change my name on irc here01:18
vzduchjacob: /nick newNick01:18
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stonedjacob: /nick stoned_is_great01:19
stonedehehe01:19
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vzduchyou better not change too often, some ops don't like that :)01:19
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stonedJacob88: install ktorrent01:19
stonedor just click a torrent link and it will open it01:20
Jacob88already have it i think01:20
stonedand start to download01:20
[ifr0g] does find in grub find files which are not even mounted ??01:20
stonedsearch google01:20
stonedtons of tutorials on torrents01:20
stonedthats how i downloaded kubuntu01:20
stonedutnubuk01:20
stonedahaha01:20
stonedoot noo book01:20
stonedkoob oon too01:20
solarwavervzduch i print !grub and is instaling it by itself?01:20
stonedim a genius01:21
vzduchsolarwaver: read the howto, it says what to do01:21
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vzduchanyway, I wanted to go to bed.. so I'll be gone now :)01:22
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Jacob88how do i go through my files? like say i want to navigate through my files like windows01:22
[ifr0g] solarwaver, sorry ?01:23
[ifr0g] JohanSalim, duh ! using a file manager !01:24
solarwaverthanx01:24
solarwaveri read it01:24
solarwaverifrog ?????????01:25
Jacob88 how do i go through my files? like say i want to navigate through my files like window01:25
[ifr0g] Jacob88, ^^ Filemanager.01:25
[ifr0g] konqueror01:26
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[ifr0g] solarwaver, i did not get what you were trying to say.01:26
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Jacob88er01:26
Jacob88i want to get to my c drive how would i do that01:26
underdog5004Jacob88, there is no c: drive01:26
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solarwaverwhat do u mean sorry ?01:26
Jacob88yes, i have a c drive trust me01:27
Jacob88i created it01:27
ice9lol01:27
[ifr0g] Jacob88, open up konqueror and browes to /media/ Should be mounted there.01:27
underdog5004Jacob88, do you see the thing that looks like a Globe with gear teeth around it? That's the file manager01:27
underdog5004use that01:27
bharath@stoned: thanks, i think tshark will do the job01:27
[ifr0g] :D01:27
underdog5004Jacob88, do you have windows installed as well?01:27
Jacob88no01:27
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Jacob88   Home Folder01:28
underdog5004then you don't have a c: drive. Linux doesn't assign random letters to drives01:28
Jacob88Your personal files      Storage Media01:28
Jacob88Disks and removable media01:28
Jacob88     Network Folders01:29
Jacob88Shared files and folders      Trash01:29
Jacob88Browse and restore the trash01:29
Jacob88     Applications01:29
Jacob88Installed programs      About Kubuntu01:29
Jacob88Kubuntu Documentation01:29
Jacob88thats all thats there01:29
underdog5004Jacob88, all your personal folders are in Home Folder01:29
Jacob88no not that.01:29
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underdog5004what do you mean?01:29
Jacob88is there no way to navigate through ALL of my computers files and drives01:29
underdog5004yes01:29
underdog5004open konqueror01:29
underdog5004then you can go anywhere you like01:29
ardchoille!bash | Jacob8801:30
ubotuJacob88: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal01:30
underdog5004open up the k-menu, go to Internet, then click on konqueror01:30
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Jacob88yeah im on that01:30
[ifr0g] can find in grub find a file that is not even mounted ?01:30
underdog5004Jacob88, in the address bar, just type a /01:30
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underdog5004then you can browse all your stuff01:30
underdog5004[ifr0g] , grub is a bootloader01:31
Jacob88An error occurred while loading locate:a+/:01:31
Jacob88The file or folder  does not exist.01:31
underdog5004Jacob88, just the /01:31
[ifr0g] underdog5004, yes i am aware of that.01:31
underdog5004[ifr0g] , do you mean "Can it detect partitions/drives that aren't mounted?"?01:32
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[ifr0g] underdog5004, huh, i was guessing files which are present in an unmounted partition.01:32
Jacob88i have  z,c,d,e drives01:33
Jacob88z is main one01:33
Jacob88d and e are cd ones01:33
underdog5004[ifr0g] , grub isn't going to give you access to files...it will only load kernels01:33
Jacob88and c is where a game is i installed01:33
underdog5004Jacob88, why do you say that? Linux doesn't use that format for drives. They should be /dev/hda1, /dev/hdb, etc...01:33
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Jacob88im just looking at WINE01:34
Jacob88wine says those are my drives01:34
ice9lol thats a wndows emulator01:34
[ifr0g] underdog5004, huh, but i can tell you in which device a file is present.01:34
ice9it has to emular a c:/ drive so that it can load windows games properly01:34
underdog5004Jacob88, those aren't real drives, those are virtual drives.01:34
[ifr0g] underdog5004, Check the man. Under find.01:34
underdog5004[ifr0g] , oh, ok01:34
Jacob88so where would this game be then?01:34
lastwhat link irc kubunbu portuguese ??01:34
underdog5004Jacob88, have you installed the game with wine?01:35
ardchoille!pt01:35
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.01:35
lastThanks01:35
Jacob88yes01:35
ice9./wine/drive_c usually01:35
ice9I mean /.wine/drive_c01:35
underdog5004look in your kmenu under lost+found...it may be in there01:35
ardchoilleunderdog5004: Do apps installed via wine even have kmenu entries?01:36
Jacob88er what folder is wine located in01:36
ice9home01:36
underdog5004ardchoille, I've seen it, sometimes01:36
underdog5004Jacob88, /home/username/.wine01:36
Jacob88its not in my home folder01:36
underdog5004Jacob88, yes, yes it is01:36
[ifr0g] Jacob88, do you know how you use konsole ?01:36
ardchoilleJacob88: ~/.wine01:36
ice9Ardchoille, not kmenu, they can have desktop icon shortcuts though01:36
ardchoilleice9: Ah, ok01:37
Jacob88yes01:37
[ifr0g] Jacob88, please run this.. in it..01:37
[ifr0g] konqueror /home/`whoami`/.wine/01:37
Jacob88AH! i found it01:37
underdog5004just paste it in01:37
Jacob88just typed in /home/jacob/.wine01:38
Jacob88in address bar01:38
Jacob88thanks01:38
underdog5004no problem01:38
[ifr0g] :)01:38
[ifr0g] pheww.01:38
ardchoilleJacob88: "~" is a shortcut for /home/YUOR_USERNAME/01:38
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underdog5004I'm out for a bit01:39
Jacob88anyway i can tell konsole to open this file with opengl01:39
ice9ya01:39
ice9but I think you can with the command winecfg too01:40
[ifr0g] What the diff bet hda and sda ?01:40
[ifr0g] devices*01:40
ardchoilleusually hda is IDE and sda is SCSI or a USB device01:40
[ifr0g] Jacob88, everything you install with wine comes in the kde menu...under wine.01:41
ardchoillesome USB mp3 players get recognised as sda01:41
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[ifr0g] ardchoille, interesting.01:41
[ifr0g] so i have an internal usb drive ..01:41
[ifr0g] Nice.01:41
Jacob88so01:42
ardchoille[ifr0g] : or you have SCSI dirves :)01:42
Jacob88how can i open this game aka "frozen throne.exe" with wine IN open gl01:42
[ifr0g] ardchoille, lol ok ..:)01:42
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ardchoilleJacob88: Does wine recognise openGL? Sounds like you're trying to merge two different technologies01:43
elite101hey does photoshop7 work good with WINE?01:43
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ardchoilleBut I could be wrong.01:43
ice9jacob88, wine (filename.exe) opengl01:43
Jacob88er01:43
Jacob88jacob@JakesComp:~$ wine frozen throne.exe opengl01:44
Jacob88wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\frozen.exe": Module not found01:44
[ifr0g] elite101, they did get it to work, if i last recall. do google for the guide.01:44
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underdog5004Jacob88, I'm not sure, but it may be wine C:\path\to\the\exe01:45
[ifr0g] <Jacob88>  wine frozen\ throne.exe01:45
ice9ya I had some problems getting opengl working too, try going into the #wine channel, they may know more there01:45
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Jacob88#wine01:46
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[ifr0g] #winehq01:47
Jacob88#winehq01:47
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ardchoille/join #winehq01:47
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Jacob88how can i get frozen throne.exe to do in opengl01:48
Jacob88oops wrong channel01:48
[ifr0g] :)01:48
ardchoilleIsn't openGL for Linux and ActiveX for Windows? Shouldn't that game be using ActiveX ?01:49
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ice9windows uses opengl too01:50
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killownnautilus show me preview of musics when I touch point mouse on music but konqueror not ..does konqueror have support fo do it?01:50
[ifr0g] ardchoille, if it is.. then winewill automatically download it.01:50
[ifr0g] ardchoille, it did so when i played cs1.601:50
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nicolasanyone knows the right way to dial an adsl ?01:51
killownnicolas pppoeconf01:51
ardchoillekillown: "show" a preview of a music file? I'm confused. But I do know that knoqueror can do previews.01:51
nicolaskillown: is there a kde tool for this ?01:51
[ifr0g] nicolas, do you have a router ?01:51
nicolas[ifr0g] : no01:52
ardchoillekillown: konq -> prefences -> Misc Options section in the Behaviour tab01:52
killownnautilus have support for do it01:52
[ifr0g] nicolas, huh, so an adsl modem .. usb ?01:52
nicolasthe problem is i have to explain how to do this on the phone01:52
nicolas[ifr0g] : ethernt01:52
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[ifr0g] nicolas, what hardware exactly ?01:53
nicolasi just need to know if there is a kde tool to dial an adsl01:54
nicolas[ifr0g] : can't tell what the modem is, they say nothing is written on it01:54
nicolasas they described, seems like an old speedstream01:54
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namoladsl-config ?01:55
[ifr0g] nicolas, sorry, i did it manually..01:55
nicolasif there is a graphical tool it would help01:55
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yotuxI can't boot into kubuntu after an update01:55
yotuxsomething about bin/bash01:56
[ifr0g] yotux, and error would be help ful.01:56
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[ifr0g] an*01:56
namolnicolas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE01:57
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nicolasnamol: thanks01:58
[ifr0g] namol, i was just looking at that page .. but no graphical tool there..01:58
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yotuxifrOg:  i have a past bin of what the screen says01:59
namolnicolas: try kppp?01:59
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yotuxlink http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31850/01:59
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Silent_Ghello can someone tell me how to make networking on linux02:02
Silent_Gthe other computer is windows02:02
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Silent_Gi want to share files and printers02:02
Silent_Gi want to be able to browse the other computer's shared folders02:02
yotuxI think you need samba02:02
Silent_Gi installed it02:03
Silent_Gbut i dont know how to use it :S02:03
BluesKajsamba and smb4k network browser02:03
yotuxI have not used it yet myself sorry02:03
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[ifr0g] yotux, could you get the menu.lst file ? some how !02:04
Silent_GBluesKaj, with smb4k i'll be able to browse the other computer and send things there?02:04
BluesKajyes , Silent_G02:04
Silent_GOK02:05
[ifr0g] or, if you are experianced enough pls check if that file is pointing to the right parition.02:05
[ifr0g] when booting.02:05
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Silent_Gwhat configurations i must do first? and how is the other computer using windows gonna "Map" this network device?02:05
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BluesKajnow if the the other computer is windows , you can browse it with your linuxbox but vice versa can be a little more difficult02:05
yotuxI can try,   i just did an update with apt-get dist-update02:05
dec_hello02:06
Silent_Ghmm02:06
Silent_Ghow much difficult BluesKaj ? :o02:06
[ifr0g] yotux, you mean dist-upgrade02:06
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yotuxyes very sorry02:06
BluesKajit can be done , but it takes a bit of research , Silent_G02:06
Silent_Gic02:07
Silent_Gcan you help me in it?02:07
[ifr0g] yotux, or you could try booting into recovery mode or the previous kernel from that menu.02:07
BluesKajI had it working bothways for a while, til I upgraded to feisty02:07
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Silent_Gic02:07
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Junodoes anyone in here speak german?02:08
yotuxifr0g: that is what I am going to try02:08
[ifr0g] ok02:08
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BluesKajsetting up to browse from linux ...I can help ...browsing from the windows pc , I can't :(02:08
BluesKaj!de | Juno02:09
ubotuJuno: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de02:09
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bishnu_how could I change the bit rate on wireless connection?02:11
Silent_GBluesKaj, Smb4k is showing that my network is MSHOME, how can i change it to a different name?02:11
phyeradminhello, sorry to be repetitive but im still encountering that broken python package in adept and i need the command for flushing the cashe so i can at least try to get synaptic02:11
[ifr0g] bishnu_, check on the iwconfig man page.02:12
bishnu_thx02:12
BluesKajSilent_G:  that the default name when connecting to a windows pc02:12
[ifr0g] Anytime ;)02:12
Silent_Gyes02:12
Silent_Gbut i changed my mother's to HOME02:12
Silent_Ginstead of MSHOME02:12
Silent_Gcause i dont like MSHOME lol02:12
Silent_Ghow can i change mine to HOME?02:12
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BluesKajdon't , just leave it , Silent_G ...it doesn't matter02:13
[ifr0g] phyeradmin, cashe ?02:14
jacobi need somebody's help, my laptop's disk tray will not close, i suspect that software issue locks my disk tray and doesn't let it close02:14
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jacobcould it be linux? when i had windows the disk tray will open and close correctly02:14
elite101how do u change the apperance of kubuntu the colour scheme?02:14
[ifr0g] jacob, eject -t02:14
elite101how do u change the apperance of kubuntu the colour scheme?02:15
[ifr0g] elite101, k > system settings > appearance02:15
phyeradminifr0g: probably bad terminolgy but its a broken python package I need out the system so I can get other things installed02:15
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phyeradminother than that im stuck withthat warning02:15
[ifr0g] phyeradmin, oh, you mean a corrupted downloaded file.02:16
[ifr0g] phyeradmin, sudo apt-get clean02:16
[ifr0g] should clear that.02:16
jacobifr0g: my disk tray is open but it doesn't want to close02:16
phyeradmini guess...i cant even be sure if it even installed02:16
phyeradminok thanks02:16
jacobi write that command in the terminal, the one you just sent me and it doesn't go02:16
[ifr0g] jacob, run the command i just said above^02:16
jacobi did02:17
BluesKajphyeradmin: have you tried , sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a ?02:17
phyeradminwhats that?02:17
jacobifr0g, i did02:17
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BluesKajunlocks a stalled install02:17
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phyeradminhmm, lemme try that02:18
[ifr0g] jacob,  does it happen on any other os ?02:18
[ifr0g] distro*02:18
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jacobifr0g, before i had windows and it worked fine, after installing linux about a month ago it also worked fine, but i suspect is a software issue cause i don't see how it could be a hardware problem02:19
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jacobif i hold the disk tray closed, it reads cds02:20
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nicolasjacob: maybe if you open the drive you will see02:20
squirrelhow would I be able to improve wireless speed02:20
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squirrelin Windows, it's fast. but in Ubuntu it's slow02:21
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squirrelI disabled ipv602:21
squirrelstill not much improvement02:21
[ifr0g] squirrel, how fast ?02:21
squirrelit takes more than a minute to load some pages02:21
jacobifr0g: it says "unable to mount media.  there is probably no media in the drive"02:22
[ifr0g] squirrel, i would not blame the wifi for that.02:22
phyeradminthat phython package is still preventing me from getting anything else02:22
squirrellooking at iwconfig bit rate shows 11 MB/s but waiting for web page to load is painful02:22
phyeradminat 1st it was both the main python file and the DEV on...now its just the main file02:22
phyeradminso they MUST know its jacked up right?!02:23
[ifr0g] phoenixz, sudo apt-get install -f02:24
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[ifr0g] jacob, its some how reading the disk when its ejected.02:24
squirrelanybody who has solved slow wireless problem in ubuntu?02:25
[ifr0g] and not closing it as a busy signal.02:25
[ifr0g] squirrel, pls, transfer a file to check its real speed.02:25
arennerWhen installing ubuntu, can I make the installation a fairly barebones kde install, or am I forced to install a bunch of other stuff like openoffice?02:25
jacobifr0g: i'm using a laptop, the disk tray is open, but when i hold it closed (even though it doesn't lock) it reads the cd, but not fully closed02:25
BluesKajphyeradmin: sudo dpkg --configure -a02:25
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squirrelhow do I transfer a file02:26
jacobifr0g: when i hold it closed it reads cds02:26
[ifr0g] squirrel, over ftp or samba ..etc localy...02:26
BluesKajphyeradmin: you have to relogin , afterwards02:26
ardchoillesquirrel: Transfer? From a folder to a folder? Device to device? Computer to computer?02:26
squirrelI am talking about Internet download and upload02:27
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squirrelI think local transfer is fast02:27
intelikeyjacob sounds like you are describing broken hardware02:27
squirrelhaven't fully checked yet. got this machine only yesterday02:27
ardchoillesquirrel: You can do ftp transfers with konqueror02:27
squirrelok02:27
[ifr0g] squirrel, then download something.. and notice the speed.02:27
[ifr0g] squirrel, it should be at your max download.02:27
phyeradminBluesKaj: ok, doing it now02:28
squirrelwhere is konqueror?02:28
elite101anybody know a good set of icons that are like black/really dark? i know there is a website but just from your experience wich one u tried is good?02:29
squirreli can try adding a program02:29
intelikeysquirrel alt+f2 konqueror  enter02:29
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[ifr0g] elite101, kubuntu has similar ones in the settings.02:29
Roeyhi all02:29
intelikeysquirrel it's in the kmenu alos02:29
intelikeyalso02:29
Roeywill KDE4 make it into Gutsy Gibbon?02:29
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intelikeyRoey not as default02:30
jacobintelikely, you could be right but i just don't see how it could be hardware02:30
Roeyintelikey:  (if it'll ship by then even?)02:30
Roeyintelikey:  it's slated for October02:30
[ifr0g] elite101, called monochrome02:30
elite101okay02:30
intelikeyRoey no.02:30
BluesKajnot right away02:30
elite101in apperance?02:30
Roeyintelikey:  k02:30
[ifr0g] elite101, yes02:30
jacobintelikely, i had a similar situation where my disk tray was open and din'02:30
intelikeyRoey it is "supposed" to be in the repos but not as the defaultd02:30
squirreldidn't find konqueror02:30
jacobdidn't want to close, when i shut down the computer i was able to close it02:31
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Roeyintelikey:  ok02:31
[ifr0g] Roey, i dought it..02:31
elite101also was wondering what kubuntu multimedia software supports .avi? tried caffeine and it doesnt work, dont need CODECS just wanna know what one supports it off that bat?02:31
intelikeysquirrel kmenu > networking > konqueror02:31
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[ifr0g] Roey, they both will be out in stable at preety close date releases, no time for testing .. Would be my guess.02:32
intelikeyjacob try this then;     sudo eject     then close the tray02:32
squirrelI don't have kmenu. it's ubuntu - gnome 2.18.102:32
bharathdoes anyone wanna help me with a simple command line problem i'm facing? it's to do with grep and tee02:33
intelikeyjacob if that works it's not hardware,   if it doesn't clear it up   then it still could be.02:33
[ifr0g] bharath, shoot !02:33
BluesKajelite101:  xine and gstreamer02:33
squirrelwhich group would konqueror to be under to add the program?02:33
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intelikeybharath you're playing my song02:34
bharathi'm trying to capture all the http GET requests that go out of my machine. so I run this:02:34
bharathsudo tshark -i eth0 | grep 'HTTP GET'02:34
bharathand it works fine02:34
[ifr0g] ok02:34
bharathbut if I try to capture the same using 'tee' like this, it doesn't work:02:34
bharathsudo tshark -i eth0 | grep 'HTTP GET' | tee out.txt02:34
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bharaththere's nothing that comes out of the console and there's nothing in the out.txt file02:35
intelikeybbarath and it can't write to the file out.tct cause you don't have permission ?02:35
Silent_GBluesKaj, smb4k is telling me for a user and password for DARKNESS(my computer/domain name)02:35
intelikeyout.txt02:35
bharathi don't get any errors02:35
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bharathalso if i try the same tee without the 'grep' middleman, it works02:36
bharathstrange02:36
phyeradminBluesKaj: still no luck02:36
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intelikeybbarath what version ?   i'll do some testing.02:36
phyeradminnow its saying something called scrollkeeper is broken02:36
bharathubuntu, fiesty02:36
BluesKajSilent_G: sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbmnt , and then, sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbumount02:37
Silent_G:o02:37
Silent_GOk02:37
BluesKajphyeradmin:  have you tried to isolate the package that's causing the trouble ?02:37
phyeradminits phython...its in the adept updates02:38
phyeradminor rather its the python update02:38
intelikeybharath test this and see if it says anything: sudo tshark -i eth0 | grep 'HTTP GET' | tee /dev/stderr02:38
phyeradminis'nt there a way to take an update off your lists?02:38
[ifr0g] bharath, yes, i am installin tshark to try it ;)02:38
phyeradminI tried to take it off but it wont go anywhere02:39
bharathintelikey: i tried that.. no error02:39
bharathjust this ->02:39
intelikeybharath any output ?02:39
bharathCapturing on eth002:39
bharathno output too, still the same problem02:39
intelikeyonly one line ?      sounds like stderr rather than stdout is being used02:40
squirreldownload rate is 630 byte to 13.7 kb per second maximum02:40
squirreli just installed ark program. could not find konqueror in this ubuntu02:40
BluesKajtry to purge it in the konsole . sudo apt-get remove --purge 'application' , or you could try to use synaptic/edit/fix broken packages/apply02:41
intelikeybharath test this: echo boo | grep boo | tee /dev/stderr02:41
bharathwhen i try this: sudo tshark -i eth0 | tee out.txt02:41
bharathit works02:41
phyeradminBluesKaj: its Python2.502:41
squirrelit should be downloading at least few hundred kb per second02:41
bharathsomehow adding the grep inbetween causes the issue02:41
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bharathok, i'll try it02:41
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bharathi get:02:42
bharathboo02:42
bharathboo02:42
squirrelXP has the speed of almost 1MPps02:42
elite101wow everything i changed is all black :S lol02:42
phyeradminwhen I was 1st having this problem, it was Python2.5 & Python2.5 dev...but this time its just the Python 2.5 that gave me the issues that made me come in here for help02:42
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BluesKajphyeradmin:  then try to purge it out and then reinstall after relogging in02:43
phyeradminhow do i purge it?02:43
phyeradminplus, if I tried to reinstall it, would'nt the same thing happen?02:44
x_linksudo aptitude purge filename02:44
intelikeybharath one proceedure for trubble shooting a pipe is to start at the end and remove joints:    i.e.   {tshark -i eth0 | grep 'HTTP GET' | tee out.txt ; } && {tshark -i eth0 | grep 'HTTP GET' ; } && {tshark -i eth0 ; }           this (typo king) often finds the error in a transopsition of chars...02:44
phyeradminbare with me...i REALLY having a time learning this linux stuff02:44
intelikeyaka  pebcak02:44
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intelikeybharath the   boo;boo;  proved that you can pipe into grep then into tee without complications... so i sujest you look at the command you entered again02:46
[ifr0g] bharath, :)02:46
bharathokay02:46
bharathyes ifrog02:46
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bharaththanks a bunch intelikey02:46
intelikeyno problem02:47
[ifr0g] bharath, what worked ?02:47
bharathnope i did not work yet... but i got some ideas02:47
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intelikey[ifr0g]  echo boo | grep boo | tee /dev/stderr02:47
bharathadding the grep somehow causes the issue, if i removed that, the tee works fine02:47
elite101when u do a install of kubuntu, mine says cannot access security updates? i think its because i reinstall kubuntu without an internet connection using the livecd?02:47
bharathand adding the grep without the tee works fine too02:47
bharathjust the both together don't work02:48
[ifr0g] bharath, well the solution is to use fgrep02:48
intelikeybharath grep and tee work togather   you just said they did02:48
phyeradminBlueKaj: You there?02:48
BluesKajyup02:48
phyeradminhow do I do that purge?02:48
phyeradminand you said to reinstall python02:48
bharathnope, this doesn't work -> sudo tshark -i eth0 | grep 'HTTP GET' | tee out.txt02:48
BluesKajsudo apt-get remove --purge 'application'02:48
phyeradminmy question was: if its messed up wont reinstalling make the sae thing happen?02:49
bharathbut if i just remove the tee, the grep works fine02:49
[ifr0g] bharath, sudo tshark -i eth0 | fgrep 'HTTP GET' | tee out.txt02:49
intelikey<bharath> i get:  <bharath> boo  <bharath> boo  <<< meaning that tee outputted boo and wrote it to stderr thus two boo's from one      echo boo | grep boo | tee /dev/stderr02:49
elite101is there a screen capture program for kubuntu? i have used HyperCam2 but its only for windows (yes i used it under WINE)02:49
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BluesKajphyeradmin: you can purge apps in Adept as well02:49
bharathhey, fgrep works instead of grep02:50
bharathgreat!02:50
adeniciobharath: u know about kopete?02:50
elite101will msn work under WINE?02:51
[ifr0g] Night all..02:51
[ifr0g] its been nice after so long to chat here :)02:51
[ifr0g] Bye.02:51
elite101Does msn work under wine?02:51
intelikeybharath now use the up arrow to make the same command again but use the left arrow and possision the cursor at the f in fgrap and hit [del]   [enter]      see if it works...02:51
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BluesKajelite101:  why don't use windows then :)02:52
elite101lol just wondering?02:52
phyeradminBluesKaj: ok...I THINK that may have did it02:52
elite101i use kopete but just wondering if it works?02:52
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phyeradminand you also said, "reinstall it"?02:52
BluesKajamsn in linux elite10102:52
bharathadenicio: yaaa? why do ya ask?02:52
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elite101yeah02:52
elite101was wondering if the new msn 8.0/8.1 works in kubuntu using wine?02:53
BluesKajphyeradmin:  not sure if you should, maybe a nolder versdion that won't break ?02:53
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bharathintelikey: i did that... and grep doesn't work, fgrep does02:53
adenicio how to sign log out of kopete(mns) to log back in a different name?02:53
bharathjust changed that one char02:53
BluesKajare you using python for media stuff , phyeradmin ?02:53
intelikeybharath would you care to pastebin the output from both tests please   and file a bug on grep02:54
bharathokay, guess what, grep works too... only it takes longer to get the output02:54
phyeradminBluesKaj: no, i was'nt using it all...see, this is a FRESH install02:54
bharathwonder why02:54
phyeradminall I did was tried to run the updates02:55
ice9_whats the command to find my local ip02:55
phyeradminand it gets to that and BOOM, falls apart02:55
BluesKajphyeradmin: strange ...02:55
temuchinifconfig02:55
phyeradminbut when I look at it, its an UPDATE02:55
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intelikeybharath the time involved is tshark related    or what ever app it was,  not grep not tee02:55
BluesKajphyeradmin: which updates ?02:55
BluesKajphyeradmin:  adept notifier ?02:56
bharathadenicio: u mean a diff. alias like in yahoo? sorry, i've not used msn that much with kopete02:56
phyeradminso python i assume IS already insstallled when you install Kubuntu its perhaps the UPDATE of it thats jacked up02:56
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phyeradminyes adept notifier02:56
bharathintelikey: must be. <slappin my forehead> :)02:56
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intelikey:)02:57
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BluesKajthought so , phyeradmin , don't use it ...it breaks after 1 or2 tries...dump it and use "sudo apt-get update"02:58
intelikeyit sure is hard to say "i typod that, and the only error was pebcak"   isn't it02:58
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phyeradminok02:58
Jacob88hwo do i make firefox i installed on this account available on the other account02:59
phyeradminBluesKaj: ok, its running02:59
sedekiJacob88 how did you install firefox?02:59
Jacob88the apt-get thing02:59
intelikeyJacob88 a symlink maybe ?02:59
sedekiJacob88 it should be installed for all user accounts.02:59
Jacob88someone gave me the command to get it and it did it automatically02:59
phyeradminBluesKaj:...aaand it crashed in a blaze of glory too02:59
BluesKajphyeradmin: the updates are drawn from the sources called repositories ... you can add the repositories to your sources list which apt and adept use to update packages from02:59
intelikeyoh you did with apt     then it is avalable02:59
Jacob88lemme go make sure03:00
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BluesKaj!repositories | phyeradmin03:01
ubotuphyeradmin: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:01
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phyeradminok, BluesKaj thank you very much but its apparent whatever that is, it has my system jacked up now...so im just gonna put pclinux back on here03:02
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phyeradminat least that did'nt give me gruff like this03:02
phyeradminthanks again and have a good evening03:02
intelikeywhat = gruff03:03
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intelikey[ $what = gruff ]  && answer03:04
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BluesKajgreif i think ...no patience03:04
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bob_sinclairi have serious issues with 2.6.20-16-386 kernel on two installations. seems common?03:05
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s0nixhello03:05
namolhi03:05
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BluesKajnever heard of python breaking a setup , but there's always a first time03:05
intelikeybob_sinclair then may i sujest you file a bug and don't use that version03:05
s0nixquelqu'un ....... dite moi comment faire disparaite le temps d'un video dans kaffeine qui est en haut a gauche de l'image ... jen ai marre et je trouve pas lol03:05
Dragnslcr!fr | s0nix03:06
ubotus0nix: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.03:06
intelikeyBluesKaj well seeing that kde is more or less py based  it might have03:06
BluesKaj!fr | s0nix03:06
bob_sinclairintelikey: i shall, just wondering if other people have it, because it is the same on both my installs which are totally different hardware03:06
bob_sinclairafter applying latest kernel update03:06
BluesKajoops slow on the draw tonite :)03:06
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DragnslcrI can almost translate that, too03:07
s0nixoups, sorry03:07
intelikeybob_sinclair i'm using the LTS so i wouldn't know,  but it's not the first update that broke things.03:07
bob_sinclairok thanks mate03:07
intelikeynp03:07
voidmageanyone know how to make a program use two cores so it runs faster?03:08
voidmagebecause right now it's only using one it looks like03:08
BluesKajintelikey:  it's that damn adept notifier ...it doesn't track updates well enuff and ends up conflicting and breaking packages03:08
bob_sinclair!beryl03:09
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects03:09
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flaccid!beryl03:09
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intelikeyBluesKaj ah.  yeah i never have liked automatic update anything03:09
voidmagei only use adept to tell me when updates are available03:10
bharathintelikey: i did some more testing and there seems to be an issue again03:10
voidmagethe tray icon thing  is handy03:10
voidmagei still do my package management from the shell03:10
bharathi have two command windows open:03:10
bharathone has -> sudo tshark -i eth0 | grep 'HTTP GET /access/' | tee out.txt03:10
bharathtwo has -> sudo tshark -i eth0 | grep 'HTTP GET /access/'03:10
voidmagethat does what?03:10
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BluesKajyup, well is till use adept in some cases but only to installa specific app, not update03:11
bharaththe second window always shows up if something matching the grep comes up03:11
bharathbut the frirst window does not03:11
voidmageon my desktop i have three open: one building things, one that i launch things from, and another i don't use03:11
bharathit does sometimes, and not sometimes03:11
bharaththat's why i had initially thought that fgrep works instead of grep03:11
voidmageon my laptop i have three: ssh to desktop, launching things, and a program running03:11
intelikeybharath ummm wait.   does tshark run and then display output or does it keep running and return as per access ?   cause any pipe is going to want to wait until all the data is avalable to write to the next app...03:13
bharathtshark keeps running and as and when something comes up, it shows03:14
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bharathok, i now see that what comes in the second windows comes up in the first one thought after maybe 2 mins03:14
Jacob88noob question03:14
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Jacob88what butons bring up proccess watcher, like control+alt+delete in windows03:15
intelikeybharath because it's waiting for the rest of the output.....03:15
bharathbut the only diff. is the addition of the tee command in the first one... so maybe it waits for blocks of stuff to come?03:15
Jacob88so i can terminate a prog03:15
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event_ideI can't seem to get Beryl working.  Can anyone link me to a tutorial?03:15
intelikeybharath yes each pipe will slow that down03:15
Jacob88anyone?03:16
dranasis it recomended i upgrade my ati drivers when new ones come out?03:16
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intelikeyJacob88 ctrl+alt+esc03:16
intelikey?03:16
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intelikeydranas i personally don't recommend upgrading anything that is working correctly...  but that's just me03:17
event_ideanyone familiar with Beryl?03:18
dranasif i upgrade and blow up my computer, how do i reset the drivers from konsole?03:18
intelikeyand for the record  a security update that patches an exploit  proves that it wasn't working "correctly"   so you can excuse that.03:18
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bharaththe the second level pipe (grep) immediately shows when that match occurs03:19
intelikeydranas you mean console ?    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:19
adenicio!apache03:19
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)03:19
bharathjust this tee slows it down that much?03:19
bharaththat's strange03:19
GeekosaurI agree with intelikey.  If it ain't broke, don't fix it unless you need a new feature or something.  Notice need not want, but that is just me, and I'm just a dumb newf.03:19
dranasthank you03:20
intelikeybharath and if you piped that into another pipe it would probably make you think it wasn't working at all03:20
BluesKajGeekosaur: agreed ,but not about the newfie part :)03:20
GeekosaurThank, BluesKa, I appreciate the vote of confidence.03:21
SonhadorPRhello all: How can I access my NTFS Windows HDDs and files????03:21
BluesKajGeekosaur:  when grows up in a place like Sudbury , one can empathize :)03:22
GeekosaurSonhadorPR, where are they located?03:22
intelikeybharath a test on that.    cat /dev/urandom | od | grep -wo '171365' | tee /dev/null            next try:   cat /dev/urandom | od | grep -wo '171365'03:23
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GeekosaurBluesKa, you mean that place with no trees, just like home, where growing rocks is a profession :)03:23
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SonhadorPRGeek: I have 2 HDDs, the normal C drive with the WinXP, and the E Drive with half NTFS for backup and half kubuntu03:24
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BluesKajyup, Geekosaur03:24
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intelikeybharath the pipe to tee is simply waiting on the  EOF   albeit it will do some writing if you wait...03:24
GeekosaurAre they SATA or IDE?03:24
SonhadorPRIDE03:25
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SonhadorPRGeek: the thing is that Ubuntu used to read them automatically, and had a link for them in the Desktop, now that I migrated to kubuntu, they are not there..03:25
intelikeythe C drive and the E drive    heh03:25
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Geekosaurtyp[e "mount" in a console and see if you can see them.03:26
SonhadorPRok03:26
SonhadorPRlet me see..03:26
lewixhi people03:26
GeekosaurIntelikey, we all started somewhere...03:26
MinatakuHeh03:27
Juz_moiI'm reading something that mentions /etc/rc.conf  I can't find it, does kubuntu use something different?03:27
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MinatakuMy external volumes are mounted under /ext/? where ? is C, D or E03:27
hasanrm: cannot remove directory `found.000//dir0000.chk/.frostwire/Incomplete': File exists03:27
hasanwhat does that mean ?03:27
hasanwhile removing file file exists where ??03:27
hasanin trash :)?03:27
SonhadorPR.Geek...it gave me a list of things...but I don know ehat I looking at03:28
Biovorethat sounds like a windows error..03:28
GeekosaurC D E are Windows identifiers for drives.  We prefer real addresses in Linux/Unix, etc.03:28
pyrotixI'm running the X-server configuration tool and it is stuck at an "OK." Am I just supposed to type enter to make it go on (it won't)?03:28
pyrotixin Konsole03:28
SonhadorPRIll give you the list...hold on...03:28
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bharathintelikey: was away.. ok, lemme try all those03:29
SonhadorPRfirst line ->   /dev/hdb2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)03:29
mauro_hello everyone! im trying to set up cpufrequtils, but i need to know what module i have to load03:29
mauro_how can i find out which module i need?03:29
SonhadorPRsecond line -->>  proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)03:29
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BluesKajpyrotix: yes03:29
soulriderhi intelikey, long time no see03:29
SonhadorPRthird line -->  /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)03:29
SonhadorPR4th line -->  varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)03:30
GeekosaurTell me what it has thhat are actually drives, they should have a line like /dev/hda1/ is mounted as ...03:30
intelikeySonhadorPR     cat "/proc/partitions" | curl -i -F 'code2=<-' -F poster=$USER -F paste=Send http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/pastebin.php 2>/dev/null | grep '^Location' | cut -d':' -f2- | tr -d ' '03:30
bharathintelikey: yep, the one without the tee works immediately03:30
bharathbut tee takes its own sweet time :)03:30
intelikeySonhadorPR drop that in a konsole and show me what it says back03:30
BluesKajthink it's time for a Tee break :)03:31
SonhadorPR5th line-->  varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)03:31
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SonhadorPRintel: all those lines, al together, ??03:31
intelikeybharath sorry i was slow about seeing what was happening to ya03:32
intelikeySonhadorPR yes one line03:32
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SonhadorPRok03:32
SonhadorPRnothing happened03:32
neusonce hey guys whats the name of the package i need to get to enbale "tor" package, its the package im led to believe enables  my to seach the web anonymously ?03:32
intelikeySonhadorPR you copied and pasted that as one single command ???    and it did nothing ?03:33
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intelikey!info tor03:35
ubotutor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1.26-1 (feisty), package size 806 kB, installed size 1740 kB03:35
SonhadorPRintel: yes...nothing happened03:35
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killownI dont to get tcl-dev in the apt-get I need add any repository ?03:36
hasanhow can i start up kmail on startup ?03:36
intelikeySonhadorPR ok pastebin the output of:   cat /proc/partitions /etc/fstab03:36
intelikey!paste | SonhadorPR03:36
ubotuSonhadorPR: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:36
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SonhadorPRok...let me do that..hold on...03:37
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intelikey!find tcl-dev03:37
ubotuFound: libpgtcl-dev, plplot-tcl-dev03:37
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intelikeyhasan that's all there is by that name ^03:38
SonhadorPRhere it is --> 31863/03:38
GeekosaurSorry Folks it's past my bedtime - Us senior citizens have our limits.  Enjoy!!03:38
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intelikeySonhadorPR full url is nice...03:38
hasanintelikey???03:38
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SonhadorPRsorry....the one you gave me.... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31863/03:39
intelikeyhasan see ubotu03:39
intelikeySonhadorPR yes looking.  give me a sec03:39
SonhadorPRtake your time...03:39
SonhadorPRher for the long haul, until I can access my Windows files...03:39
SonhadorPRthanx03:39
bharathintelikey: no problem :)03:40
hasanwhereis ubotu?03:40
hasanwhat's that ? im a newbie03:40
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[ifr0g] hasan, ITs a BOT !03:41
[Apollo] How can you type in an arbitrary ASCII character? Like when you hit ALT and enter a number on the numpad in Windows?03:41
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intelikeySonhadorPR that's not the output of the command i gave.    <intelikey> SonhadorPR ok pastebin the output of:   cat /proc/partitions /etc/fstab03:41
root___hello?03:42
soulrider[Apollo] : i dont have any idea either :P03:42
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root___cool, this works03:42
soulriderhi root___03:42
root___for some random reason, my keyboard quit working in KDE03:42
[Apollo] :P03:42
soulriderroot___: i suggets you change your name :P type /nick <new name>03:42
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soulriderincluding the  /03:42
SonhadorPRI copied the whole thing like you said...I asked if it was all the lines..03:42
SonhadorPRok..Il do it again...03:42
intelikeySonhadorPR you still aren't reading what i'm writing03:42
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[Apollo] can you consider this a security threat? letting everyone in an IRC room know that you logged in as root--given that this is prolly the reason for the nick? :P03:43
intelikeycat /proc/partitions /etc/fstab   <<<<< that command SonhadorPR03:43
SonhadorPRhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31864/03:43
[Apollo] hi intelikey03:43
SonhadorPRI just did it...03:43
intelikey[Apollo] 03:43
[Apollo] ya?03:44
pacmanmaybe, but all you'll get if you hack my system is a bunch of porn...haha03:44
[Apollo] lol03:44
pacmananyhow, any idea how to get my keyboard to work on KDE again?  I looked and could find an auto-detect feature03:44
intelikeySonhadorPR ok much better,  now give me just a minute and i'll tell you how to set that up03:44
SonhadorPRok Intel: thanx03:45
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pacmanI even tried another keyboard, and it still wouldn't work03:45
bharathintelikey: is there a way to force tee to process stuff in realtime instead of waiting for the EOF>?03:46
[Apollo] pacman: I so much like to help you, but I'm like a total newbie myself. I consider myself lucky if I figure something out.03:46
intelikeybharath you could just dump the grep to a file and parse as needed03:46
[Apollo] I'd*03:46
pacman*nods*03:47
bharathyep, i tried that, but looks like even the dump doesn't dump in real time... maybe i'm wrong, i'll check it out again03:47
[Apollo] how come it doesn't work? does it not respond anymore? or does it not work like it should?03:47
pacmanit doesn't respond at all03:48
pacmanit was working fine, then all of a sudden, it quit working03:48
thelostbyte_pacman, what quite working?03:48
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pacmanmy keyboard, lostbyte03:49
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pacmanmy keyboard, ifroog03:49
pacmanheh03:49
[ifroog] pacman, laptop ?03:50
pacmanno, desktop03:50
pacmanI tried another keyboard, and restarted, and tried everything I could think of.03:50
[ifroog] pacman, so the other keyboard also did not work ?03:50
hitmanWillypacman: usb or ps2?03:50
pacmanps203:50
pacmanno, it didn't work03:50
bharathintelikey: yep, its the same problem with just redirecting to an output file too03:51
bharathit doesn't write to the file immediately03:51
bharathjust like with the tee03:51
hitmanWillypacman: it may be an issue with the controller, you may want to try a usb one03:51
SonhadorPRso, pacman, how are you writting at the moment??03:51
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[ifroog] pacman, feisty?03:52
pacmanI logged into console from the login screen, and downloaded bitchx03:52
pacmanyeah, ifroog03:52
hitmanWillypacman: oh, this is just in X?03:52
pacmanyeah03:52
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SonhadorPRoic03:52
SonhadorPRits on the X, not the console...interesting03:53
hitmanWillypacman: it may be an issue with kubuntu's keyboard layout then03:53
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hitmanWillypacman: s/kubuntu/kde03:53
intelikeySonhadorPR make your fstab look like that03:53
pacmanI'd have to leave here to try any suggestions03:53
SonhadorPRwhats the fstab?03:53
[ifroog] pacman, press shift for 5 secs does a window pop up ?03:53
intelikeySonhadorPR then issue the command     sudo mount -a03:53
pacmanno, ifroog03:54
intelikeySonhadorPR /etc/fstab   file that tells the system how to mount the fs's03:54
intelikeyfstab = file system table03:54
SonhadorPRINTEL: OK..SO HOW DO i EDIT IT?03:54
SonhadorPRsorry for the locks03:54
intelikeybharath i may have an option for you,     dd03:55
SonhadorPR<-- newbie here, you gotta go step-by-step03:55
intelikeySonhadorPR kdesu kate /etc/fstab03:55
SonhadorPRok..let me do that...03:55
intelikeySonhadorPR or sudo nano /etc/fstab     or heck just  sudo cp SonhadorPR /etc/fstab03:55
bharathintelikey: lookin at the man for it03:56
SonhadorPRok..it opened...Il edit it now...03:56
pacmanbrb03:56
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intelikeybharath i mention it because one of the logging scripts for ubuntu used something like   dd if=/proc/blah of=/var/log/something bs=103:57
pacman_hmm03:57
intelikeypacman_ killed client without exiting... ?03:58
pacman_*shrugs*03:58
BluesKajwhat's the procedure to reassign the Caps Lock to Shift or Ctrl or something else that doesn't annoy03:58
bharathintelikey that's just way over my head :) but i'll give it a try... in the meantime, i'll just dump tsharks output and then do the grep separately03:58
SonhadorPRintel: it gave me a whole bunch of errors...let me do the pastebin again03:58
SonhadorPRIntel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31868/03:59
intelikeySonhadorPR i don't need it.   sudo mkdir -p /media/hda103:59
pacman_I'm lost03:59
intelikeySonhadorPR i don't need it.   sudo mkdir -p /media/hdb103:59
hitmanWillypacman_: still no luck?04:00
pacman_no04:00
intelikeySonhadorPR note that's a and b   ^>   sudo mkdir -p /media/hdb104:00
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SonhadorPRok...did them both04:00
intelikeySonhadorPR and sudo mount -a04:00
hitmanWillypacman_: did you try mouseing through the options in kcontrol/system settings?04:01
SonhadorPRFailed to mount '/dev/hda1': Operation not supported04:01
aesebu55hi, has anyone got chromium bsu to run succesfully of kubuntu?04:01
pacman_yeah, but I couldn't find anything for 'auto-detect keyboard' or something similar04:01
intelikeySonhadorPR didn't you install ntfs-3g ?04:01
SonhadorPRyes04:01
SonhadorPRearlier..04:01
hitmanWillypacman_: try just setting it to a standard 10104:01
intelikeyi thought so04:01
SonhadorPRthat also gave me some errors04:01
intelikeyoh04:02
intelikeyerrors installing it ?04:02
pacman_where do I set it?  I didn't see anything in KDE about setting up a keyboard04:02
SonhadorPRit told me something about the HPlip..04:02
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hitmanWillypacman_: hold on, lemme find it04:02
SonhadorPRthat the file I installed to work with my HP all in one PSC04:02
bharathintelikey: i found a dirty shortcut :)04:03
intelikeySonhadorPR sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g04:03
intelikeybharath k what is it ?04:03
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bharathi just have to kill the tshark process when I'm done  :)04:03
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bharathand the tee dumps the rest of the stuf immediately04:03
intelikeyyeah we knew that04:03
[ifroog] pacman, could you go into system settings > accessibility  > modifier keys > and disable sticky keys..04:03
intelikeybharath tshark may have a terminate switch   -l or something04:04
pacman_okay, let me try that...back in a few04:04
hitmanWillypacman_: under regional & language -> Keyboard Layout in system settings04:04
SonhadorPRintel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31869/04:05
pacman_okay04:05
bharathintel i'll look into that04:05
[ifroog] pacman, and also check if slow keys are not checked under keyboard filters.04:05
intelikeybharath one could use a while loop and sample with tshark that way too     (speeking of dirty hacks)  while true ;do tshark command here with pipes  & sleep 1 ;killall tshark ;done04:06
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dopei have a makefile with this in it "ifeq ($(UNAME),Linux)" what does that do?04:06
holycowkonversation is MUUUUUUUUUUCH nicer than xchat04:06
holycowhow come kde apps are always so much more featurefull than anything i've ever seen on gnome?04:07
holycowas much as i like gnome i find this very odd04:07
dopeand this: UNAME := $(shell uname)04:07
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bharathintelikey, ok. but i'm also trying to understand the root cause here. is it because of grep or tshark?04:07
bharathbecause if i use just grep without the tee, i get the output in realtime04:07
intelikeybharath no. it's because of the way the kernel handles pipes04:08
bharathohh, ok04:08
Daisuke_Idoholycow: i don't think konversation has any features xchat doesn't, it all goes back to the basic differences between gnome and kde.  gnome is simplicity through obfuscation.  the customization options are there, but hidden.  in kde, it's all laid out in plain sight :)04:08
bharathinteli is there any documentation regarding this somewhere?04:08
intelikeywhen you have a pipe writting to disk you normally want to wait for the EOF04:08
Daisuke_Idonot to mention kde apps generally go for a certain "feel" common to most kde apps04:08
bharathoh ok04:08
holycowDaisuke_Ido: you may be right04:08
bharathso only when i try to write to disk this happens, i get it04:09
holycowi haveto say i think linus was right04:09
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intelikeybharath right04:09
Daisuke_Idoabout what?04:09
holycowgnome04:09
bharathmake much sense now04:09
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Daisuke_Idorefresh my memory?04:09
intelikeySonhadorPR ok still with me ?04:09
holycowhe basically said the same thing about gnomes approach that you mentioned04:09
Daisuke_Idoah04:09
SonhadorPRyes sir...still waiting for my next set of instructions!!04:10
SonhadorPRhehehe04:10
intelikeySonhadorPR does     mount    say the partitions are mounted or not ??04:10
SonhadorPRI just type mount?04:10
bharathintel, okay but the tee also writes to the console right? why should that be slow too?04:10
intelikeySonhadorPR yes04:10
[ifroog] dope, "ifeq ($(UNAME),Linux)" compares if the output of uname = linux04:10
dopehmm04:11
[ifroog] which is true.04:11
doperight below it it says "release:"04:11
dopeand then some commands04:11
SonhadorPRintel:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31870/04:11
intelikeySonhadorPR we can also fix that invoke-rc.d problem with a hack right quick if you want...04:11
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[ifroog] yes, it runs that if the above it true.04:11
dopewell it's outputting it to the console04:11
dopeand i get no executable04:12
SonhadorPRsure....04:12
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intelikeySonhadorPR ok so it didn't mount...   hmm let me check with someone that uses ntfs-3g on that.   in the mean time...04:13
dopeany ideas04:13
SonhadorPRok04:14
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[ifroog] dope, sorry, i have not played with makefiles though.04:14
intelikeySonhadorPR which invoke-rc.d04:14
intelikeySonhadorPR that's a konsole command04:14
[Apollo] dope: do you need help with makefiles?04:14
dopeyea, i'm just trying to use the one that was provided with this sample code to build the project and i'm gettin nowhere04:15
SonhadorPRI just type that?  invoke-rc.d  ??04:15
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[Apollo] what's not working? and can you can paste it to pastebin or something like that?04:16
intelikeySonhadorPR            which invoke-rc.d04:16
SonhadorPR I have to type which also with it??04:17
dopeyea give me a second04:17
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intelikeySonhadorPR: yes     which invoke-rc.d04:18
SonhadorPRok.04:18
jdcnyctesting1,2...304:18
SonhadorPRintel:  /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d04:18
nosrednaekimjdcnyc: its working ;)04:18
intelikeySonhadorPR one more time lets try that mount command too.      sudo mount -a04:18
jdcnycthanks!04:18
intelikeySonhadorPR don't forget the sudo.04:18
dope[Apollo] : http://pastebin.com/m5b48e64d04:19
lewixhi04:19
lewixhow do I know what kernel I'm using?04:20
lewixwhat's the command04:20
SonhadorPRstill the same...logfile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0) Failed to mount /dev/hda1/': Operation not supported04:20
[ifroog] lewix, uname -r04:20
lewixthanks04:20
[ifroog] ;)04:20
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[Apollo] dope: and what is not working? I mean, it seems to work just fine. It's normal that the make process is printing out the commands it is executing. Have you tried running the executable?04:21
dopeit greates no file04:22
dopewell it's not in the same directory04:22
intelikeySonhadorPR this that "hack" to get your hplip working, it's all one line without  ()  i'm just using them to show where to start and stop  ( sudo mv /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d /root/ ;sudo ln -s /bin/true /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d ;sudo dpkg --configure -a ;sudo rm /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d ;sudo mv /root/invoke-rc.d /usr/sbin/ )04:22
SonhadorPRok04:23
[ifroog] looks like it goes to /dist/release/accsample04:23
[Apollo] dope: yes, it's in "../../dist/release/accsample"...  so go up 2 directorys, then go to dist, then release and there it should be04:23
[Apollo] ifroog was faster04:24
[Apollo] :D04:24
dopeO thanks04:24
jdcnycI just installed a new Kubuntu desktop and didn't partition the single hard drive manually. Installed Gparted, but it won't give me the option to resize the configuration. I would reinstall, if I can't think of another option. Any suggestions?04:24
[ifroog] [Apollo] , but you said it right :D04:24
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[Apollo] heh04:24
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SonhadorPRintel:  it looks like a clean set up..... heres line one -->  Setting up hplip (1.7.3-0ubuntu1) ...04:25
SonhadorPRline 2 ---> Creating/updating hplip user account...04:25
SonhadorPRand thats it04:25
Juz_moiI'm reading something that mentions /etc/rc.conf  I can't find it, does kubuntu use something different?04:25
dope[Apollo] : what's this mean "accsample: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected"04:25
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intelikeySonhadorPR k04:25
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[Apollo] dope: what did you enter as a command to execute it?04:26
dopei typed: sh accsample04:26
Minatakudope: It means that there's an open parenthesis in line 1 that doesn't belong there04:26
nosrednaekimjdcnyc: so you want to make room on your drive?04:26
SonhadorPRintel: now what?04:26
nosrednaekimjdcnyc: from the partition that you are running right now?04:26
jdcnyc <nosrednaekim> jdcnyc: so you want to make room on your drive? YES!04:26
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hiihii! my friend did something with his wireless network and now he wants to know how to reset the knetworkmanager04:26
aesebu55when i try to install the chromuim package it gives the error it needs the data package but when I try to install the dat apackage it complains that it needs the package I just tried to install. What can I do?04:27
nosrednaekimjdcnyc: so you have only one (or two counting swap) partitions on your disk?04:27
dope[Apollo] : ami supposed to send it parameters?04:27
intelikeySonhadorPR let me change the fstab and resend it04:27
jdcnyc1 swap parition04:27
SonhadorPRok04:27
[ifroog] hii,  what do you mean by reset ?04:28
[Apollo] hmm... maybe? just go to the directory and enter ./accsample04:28
[Apollo] dope04:28
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dopeah ok so i don't type sh then04:28
nosrednaekimjdcnyc: you need to run the liveCD and use qtparted off of that.  you can't resize a partition thats in use04:28
hiihii ifroog!  he was fooling around with the manual connections and now the wireless connection isnt showing up on the list04:28
hitmanWillydope: only if its not set +x04:28
dopeit's working now04:29
hitmanWillydope: then you need the sh04:29
dope:) thx all04:29
[Apollo] heh np04:29
dopei try to remember that hitmanWilly04:29
intelikeySonhadorPR you remember how to edit that ?04:29
intelikeySonhadorPR  kdesu kate /etc/fstab04:29
[ifroog] Any one on edgy, could you check if network-manager is installed ??04:29
jdcnyc jdcnyc: you need to run the liveCD and use qtparted  I expected as much and have Gpart LiveCd on hand Thanks!04:29
[ifroog] dope, :)04:30
SonhadorPRgot it dude....fstabs been re-edited...now what?04:30
hitmanWilly[ifroog] : it should be, if not you can apt it04:30
SonhadorPR:)04:30
nosrednaekimjdcnyc: no problem04:30
intelikeySonhadorPR   sudo mount -a04:30
SonhadorPRsame error....unclean shutdown...04:30
SonhadorPRetc..04:30
[ifroog] hitmanWilly, i dont really get its purpose !04:31
hitmanWilly[ifroog] : it's a nice little gui for those who are scared of a cli/editing config files :)04:31
[ifroog] hitmanWilly, ah, thats it !04:32
intelikeySonhadorPR hmmm ok.   seeing that i don't know that much about ntfs-3g   because i don't do windows,   i'm going to assume that it's an actual fs issue   and sujest you reboot to windows safe mode and chkdisk the partitions04:32
[ifroog] does it any way, help to bring up interfaces automatically.. on device presence ?04:32
hitmanWilly[ifroog] : and since it seems to bypass the standard way of networking, it can sometimes cause problems :(04:32
intelikeySonhadorPR or scandisk or what ever windows uses these days04:33
SonhadorPRok...04:33
SonhadorPRI can do that...04:33
intelikeySonhadorPR let me know how it turns out04:33
lewixwhat's the difference between z2 and gzb04:33
SonhadorPRbut stilllits funny that the Ubuntu was able to open the NTFS HDDs and Kubuntu wont do it...04:33
[ifroog] hitmanWilly, huh, good.. caused i removed it. and tough that would have been the reason for my wifi acting weird.04:33
lewixwhat's the difference between bz2 and gzb*04:33
[ifroog] but its not.04:33
hitmanWilly[ifroog] : not that im aware of, but I do mine the old fashioned way04:34
SonhadorPRok..Ill be back in an hour or so...04:34
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SonhadorPRthanx for all your help dude!!!04:34
[ifroog] hitmanWilly, cool ;)ok04:34
dopei want to give a user the ability to use a command without typing sudo in front of it. how do i do that?04:34
intelikeySonhadorPR but because ubuntu was opening it and possably not cleanly umounting it....04:34
lewixwhat's the difference between *.bz2 and *.gzb ?04:34
jhutchinslewix: Let's try one more:  .gz and .bz2 maybe?04:34
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SonhadorPRcould be.....04:34
hitmanWilly[ifroog] : as far as wifi, though, im pretty much at a loss, mine worked out of the box and i haven't had to play with it any04:34
intelikeySonhadorPR that may be why you now have that issue04:34
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lewixjhutchins, yes sir04:35
nosrednaekimdope: you really can't.... only root can do that, and root is disabled04:35
jhutchinslewix: Rather obviously, they're different ways of compressing a file.04:35
lewixok04:35
intelikeySonhadorPR don't clap.  just tell me if that fixes it   :)04:35
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jhutchinslewix: gz is gzip, which is a bit faster, bz is significantly slower and slightly smaller.04:35
[ifroog] hitmanWilly, nice..04:35
dopewhat if i need to run a command in a shell script that requires sudo?04:35
lewixjhutchins, thanks04:36
SonhadorPRyes...I know exactly what you are saying..a coulpe of days ago...the system(ht eubuntu system) told me that..at the boot...before loading ubuntu, it did a system check, and it told me something about the mounts..04:36
hitmanWilly[ifroog] : plus i hardly ever use it anyway, have a hardline at the house04:36
jhutchinslewix: zip, bzip, gzip all slight variations.04:36
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jhutchinslewix: rar, arc, ohh, about a dozen others.04:36
nosrednaekimdope: run the whole script as sudo04:36
intelikeyjhutchins you use ntfs-3g ?04:36
intelikeyor hitmanWilly ?04:36
lewixlol04:36
dopei don't think i can04:36
jhutchinsgzip offers pretty much the best compromise between speed and size.04:36
nosrednaekimdope: why not?04:36
hitmanWillyintelikey: not for a LONG time04:36
SonhadorPRok...Im on my way to Windows land,....wish me luck....04:37
dopecause something else is calling it04:37
intelikeyjhutchins depends on what you are compressing04:37
[ifroog] hitmanWilly, i have a dougle working on ndiswrapper.04:37
dopelike an automated process04:37
nosrednaekimdope: calling what?04:37
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dopethe shell script that needs sudo04:37
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hitmanWilly[ifroog] : intel chipset here :)04:37
jhutchinsintelikey: I never had problems with the original ntfs drivers, and nowadays I don't have NTFS partitions except on my NT server, which solves the problem with samba.04:37
jhutchinsintelikey: Actually, it doesn't.04:37
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[ifroog] intel wireless does rock on linux.04:38
jhutchinsintelikey: Some files compress farther with other formats, but not faster.04:38
[ifroog] I thinki will get that.04:38
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nosrednaekimdope, I don't get you. If you run the whole script as sudo, anything the script calls with automatically be run with full priveledges04:38
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dopeok i'll see what happens04:38
intelikeyjhutchins well i have some 4+m plain text files that bzip compresses much better at very little time cost04:38
jhutchinsnosrednaekim: I believe you'll find that's not the case.04:38
nosrednaekimjhutchins: really?04:38
jhutchinsintelikey: Right.  Very little - but some.04:38
intelikeyjhutchins but much smaller04:39
jhutchinsnosrednaekim: If you run a script with sudo, the shell is run as root, but programs within may not be.04:39
nosrednaekimjhutchins: I've done it before though.....04:39
intelikeylike several houndred k04:39
jhutchinsnosrednaekim: Yes, and I've done it and had it fail.04:39
nosrednaekimjhutchins: hmmm let me test that out.04:39
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[ifroog] dope, there is a way.. just a sec04:40
nosrednaekimjhutchins: I just hat it restart cupsys from within a sudoed script...04:41
nosrednaekim*had04:41
hitmanWillynosrednaekim: i think it has to do with how sudo is configured04:41
dopeI GOT IT!04:41
jhutchinsnosrednaekim: I'll bookmark that I need to show you one of the scripts that failed.  Since it failed, I didn't keep it around, but I think I can recreate it.04:41
dopeHOW POINTLESS!04:41
nosrednaekimhmm, ok, I'd be interested.04:42
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nosrednaekimdope: :)04:42
jhutchinssure.  There is a difference between sudo and su - though.04:42
dopei my server to restart itself from an IM04:42
jhutchinsG' nght folks, I should be around some manaa.04:43
Juz_moiwhat does the $2 mean in this script line:    sudo /sbin/ifconfig $2 up04:43
hitmanWillyjhutchins: was it trying to > directly to a file?04:43
nosrednaekimc ya04:43
intelikeyjhutchins gooday04:43
[ifroog] dope, got what?04:43
nosrednaekimJuz_moi: I THINK it means the second variable that should be defined above that.04:43
dopei got my server to restart itself from an IM04:43
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nosrednaekimdope: sweet04:43
[ifroog] woo..04:44
hitmanWillydope: and extremely dangerous imho :P04:44
intelikeyJuz_moi heh  $2 is the second command line pram04:44
[ifroog] how ?04:44
dopei used the aim sdk for linux04:44
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nosrednaekimintelikey: nice to know :)04:44
Juz_moiin the ifconfig ?04:44
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hitmanWillyim's aren't exactly secure...04:44
nosrednaekimwhats your server's i'm address :)04:44
hitmanWillyespecially over the aim protocol04:44
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nosrednaekimhehe04:44
nosrednaekim*IM04:44
intelikeyJuz_moi  a script with this line in it   "echo $2"    then call the script like this    myscript blah good blah     will answer back  'good'04:45
Juz_moiit's from http://mychael.gotdns.com/blog/2007/05/31/virtualbox-bridging/04:45
intelikeyJuz_moi shell scripting is what i do04:45
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Juz_moigod bless u I am clueless about it04:46
intelikeyi just gave you a clue04:46
intelikey:)04:46
[ifroog] :D04:46
Juz_moigo to that page and tell me in relationship to what he's saying there04:46
smaxwhy does cups recognize my hp printer as a cannon?04:46
hiidoes anyone know how to install knetwork from the ubuntu cd? please? =] 04:47
Juz_moiit's from http://mychael.gotdns.com/blog/2007/05/31/virtualbox-bridging/04:47
nosrednaekimhave to go all bye04:47
smaxand an epson?04:47
intelikeyecho 'echo $2 $1 $3' > myscript ;sh myscript testing im this04:47
hitmanWilly:)04:47
intelikey:)04:47
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dopeWEW! i got my server to restart itself via text msg!04:48
dopejesus I'm a nerd04:48
hitmanWillyintelikey: beginnings of a yoda translation script :)04:48
ardchoillelol04:48
intelikeyhitmanWilly :)04:48
ardchoillehitmanWilly: yoda2text ?04:49
hitmanWillywhy not?04:49
ardchoillehitmanWilly: oops, that should be yoda2text.sh04:49
hitmanWillytakes yoda speak from stdin and outputs to stdout04:49
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[ifroog] hii,  dvd ?04:49
hiiifroog: no, cd04:50
[ifroog] huh, its its on the cd i think it should be installed already..04:50
hiiifroog: hes trying to reinstall it04:50
hiiifroog: he messed it up so now he has to reinstall it or something04:51
intelikeyhitmanWilly heh    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3855904:51
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intelikeyhii the "kde" stuff is not on the "ubuntu" cd04:52
ardchoilleintelikey: What does that do?04:52
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[ifroog] oh, i missed that :P04:52
intelikeyardchoille a very crude encription04:52
hiiintelikey: how do people normally get network support then?04:53
smaxlinux is so unreliable04:53
Dr_willissmax,  really? i find windows to be very very unreliable.04:53
ardchoilleintelikey: Ah04:53
[ifroog] hii, pls ask gnome related questions at #ubuntu04:53
hitmanWillyintelikey: ok, that's a little beyond me, but i'll play around with it some :)04:53
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intelikeyhii the "ubuntu" cd had the gnome applications.04:53
[ifroog] they might have gnome apps that do that.04:54
intelikeyhii the kubuntu cd has the kde stuff and the kdenetwork manager04:54
smaxDr_willis: at least windows recognizes a simple printer sheesh04:55
hiiso i have the cd, so how do i install that? =] 04:55
intelikeyhii i know it's a little confusing seeing that they are the same distro just different DE's  but the install cd is intneded to simply get you started,    and the rest is expected to be "network" everything       i don't agree with the concept but hay     ;/04:56
hitmanWillyintelikey: ok, im dumb, i got it figured out now :)04:56
Dr_willissmax,  yea.. whatever...04:56
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[ifroog] lol04:57
intelikeyhitmanWilly it's inteneded more as a "joke" than anything else,  but if you make two symlinks to the script   ln -s encript myscript ;ln -s decript myscript     then it should actually work.04:57
pacman*sighs*04:57
smaxDr_willis: uhh localhost:<cups port>/administration sees my hp printer as both a cannon and a epson04:58
intelikey./encript some text here04:58
hitmanWillyintelikey: for ROT13 level encryption, anyway :P04:58
intelikey./decript that output04:58
smaxso fuck it.04:58
smaxim rebooting back to vista04:58
intelikeyhitmanWilly right04:58
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Dr_willissmax,  thats not related to your problem. I recall seeing that befor even with NO printers installed.. Not sure what the deal is. It might be somthing to do with the PDF printing feature04:59
intelikeytoo late04:59
Dr_willisbig loss.04:59
Dr_willis:)04:59
pacman<===still having keyboard issues04:59
[ifroog] SAD !04:59
Dr_willisIm still not sure WHY those 2 printers show up on every box i got either. :)04:59
intelikeyheh04:59
hiik well thank you very much for trying to help me!! <305:00
Dr_willisi dont see them in the gnome-cups-manager, but i DO recall seeing them somewhere else.05:00
intelikeymy printer worked just fine until the first update   hasn't worked sense05:00
[ifroog] well he will be back when he finds out his new web cam doesnot have vistacompatible drivers :P05:00
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intelikeyhii don't run off mad.    what exactly do you need ?05:00
hiiim not mad! and im not sure.  lol05:00
intelikeyhii is it wireless wired dialup ???05:01
wellingtonhello!05:01
hiiwireless05:01
[ifroog] hii, what cd do youhave in your hand ?05:01
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wellingtonkubuntu 705:01
[ifroog] lol05:01
intelikeyi was afraid you would say that05:01
hiikubunto 7.02 whatever from the website05:01
Dr_willisUnder Printer Ports - in the GNome-cups-manager - it says Parallel port #1 Epson, Parrel Port #1 Canon, I dont even Have a printer on this box. :) what gives?05:01
hiiawe!! dont hide! seriously im not mad!05:02
[ifroog] hii, slip the cd in..05:02
intelikey!wifi | hii05:02
ubotuhii: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:02
[ifroog] hii, and do ---> sudo apt-cdrom add05:02
intelikeyhii i have nothing wireless here so i haven't tried to learn it.05:02
wellingtoni'm using dlink 502g05:02
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intelikeyhii yes the   sudo apt-cdrom add   command will let you use any *ubuntu cd's you might have05:03
hiithank you!! <305:04
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intelikeyhii but i kinda doubt that adding the cd to the repos will help you there....    hope i'm wrong...05:04
hiiweee!05:04
[ifroog] well it will install all the kde libs beforeitinstalls the manager..05:04
[ifroog] and on a gnome it will be slow.05:05
[ifroog] pls, beware.05:05
intelikey[ifroog]  yeah   but if s/he installed kubuntu that's already installed,  if not then the gnome eq is...05:05
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hiiis something supposed to happen now.. ? /cry05:06
intelikey!wifi | hii05:06
ubotuhii: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:06
intelikey                     ^05:06
hiik thank you <305:06
[ifroog] intelikey, it already comes with feisty what ever it is..05:07
intelikeywe played that game already...  soooo05:07
[ifroog] and their wonderful network-manager05:07
intelikey</shrugs>05:07
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dopei need a program that'll pour me a perfect black and tan05:08
intelikeyEh gads this cat is having a "fling" with python ....   -:- Pyromancer [i=pyromanc@gateway/tor/x-1c2f0f95a40da1b0]  has joined #kubuntu05:09
intelikey:)05:09
intelikeydope hound ?05:09
dopeintelikey: hound?05:09
intelikeyblack and tan05:09
intelikey:)05:09
dope:?05:10
intelikeynothing05:10
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Dr_willisPink and Puce05:10
dopethey mix way too much when i do it05:10
Dr_willisfreeze both halfs solid.05:10
Dr_willisthen stack them up05:10
intelikeyblack and tan    is a breed of dog05:10
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Dr_willisFreeze the dogs :) stack them up05:10
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intelikeythus the pun05:10
Dr_willis'you might be a redneck if.....'05:11
intelikey:)05:11
hasanhow guys05:11
intelikeyhow hasan05:11
hasanhow can i add extra repos so that i wouldnt dl files again ?05:11
hii=] 05:12
hasanwhenever i format my pc i restart to dl all the things05:12
hasanhi05:12
hasani just wanted to say hi sorry i havent slept all the night05:12
hiiwell hii back!05:12
hasansorry about that i have thought about saying  hi and i ve written how :)05:12
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hasanok now to my question05:13
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Dr_willishasan,  if you have more then 1 ubuntu box, you can set up one as the apt file 'caching' machine.05:13
intelikeyhasan well i'm on dailup so dling *g is out of the Q   i make a copy of everything that enters /var/cache/apt/archives/   then you only dl that file one time.05:13
hasanso what do u add /etc/sources.list ?05:14
hasanwhere what and how ?05:14
[ifroog] hansen, you want to add more repos ?? why05:14
intelikeyi add nothing special to /etc/sources.list   just mount another disk on  /var/cache/apt/archives/  thus everything there is safe from reload05:14
hansenno i dont :)05:15
[ifroog] yeah, i do the same thing..05:15
intelikeyhansen lol05:15
Dr_willisI just redownload everything. :)05:15
intelikeyisn't irc a blast !05:15
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hiithis is kind of fun i think!05:15
intelikeyDr_willis but you my friend aren't on dialup.05:16
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hiii have no idea what everyone is talking about =] 05:16
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[ifroog] hii,  stick around :)05:16
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hiik!05:16
intelikeyactually don't you'll end up like the rest of us       run while you still can05:16
hiihaha ,305:17
[ifroog] lol05:17
hii<305:17
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[ifroog] hii, what is that emotion ?05:17
hiiits a heart05:17
hii<305:18
[ifroog] ah, ok ..05:18
hii=]  yea05:18
hiiso this is fun! are you guys in here often?05:18
intelikeywe're offtopic often...05:18
intelikey:)05:18
[ifroog] I am back after a really long break :) and i will be a regular here.. here after..05:19
intelikeyhere here05:19
hiiill hang out here too then05:20
hii=] 05:20
intelikeythat that is is that that is not is not05:20
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intelikeyya know05:20
hii=[   what?05:20
[ifroog] i i dont dont know know05:21
hiilol you guys are cute!! <3 im hungry again. =/05:21
intelikeyi C++05:21
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hiino one is saying anything anymore...05:23
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redshadowhero?05:24
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redshadowheroI wouldn't worry too much.05:24
hiihii redshadowhero!!05:24
arunhey kids05:24
intelikey[ifroog]  maybe i needed to punctuate that for you...   that that is; is that that is not, is not.    if you think about it it's not just a stuttering nonsensical gubberish.05:24
redshadowheroThis is the part when the hero gets chased by the killer05:24
[ifroog] yes, the silence says that all the kubuntu users are happy !! :)05:24
intelikeygibberish either05:24
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intelikey[ifroog]  or unable to boot or unable to access the network....05:26
[ifroog] intelikey, point ! ;D05:26
redshadowherohii: hi!05:26
hii=] 05:27
intelikeyis that hi! all this time i thought that was  h205:27
arunheh05:27
hiilol05:27
redshadowherohuh?05:27
intelikeyok i'll quit.05:27
hiiyea! maybe i should change my nickname now!05:27
hiihow do i do that?05:27
intelikey/nick blah05:28
arunanyone use evolution here?05:28
[ifroog] intelikey, kubuntu 20.7 "flying pigs" should have irc through high frequency radio wave support.05:28
intelikeyarun i have used it.   how hard is your Q ?05:28
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sadrineweee! thank you!05:28
redshadowherosadrine: you sure are... active...05:28
intelikeyi kinda liked h2...05:28
stonedhello05:28
redshadowherosadrine: that the most explanation points I've seen in a while05:28
sadrinelol you guys are so fun!!05:29
sadrinei love it05:29
arunintelikey: what do you mean05:29
redshadowheroI'm glad that someone loves my inner computer geek...05:29
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intelikey[ifroog]  thought they decided on    palpatating piglets05:29
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hiik i went back!05:29
hiibrb guys05:30
hiiand girls05:30
ChuckFuhow do I get unbutu to see a USB Device05:30
intelikeyarun i mean if you have a Q about evo, lets hear it.05:30
[ifroog] incorrect, oh, yeah, that will only come after smelly skunks.05:30
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ice9assholes05:30
[ifroog] intelikey, ^^05:30
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[ifroog] ice9, and what would be your second name ?05:31
intelikey[ifroog]  oh...   that's right.   i should have remembered that05:31
ice9I dont get it05:31
stonedhey05:31
stonedbad05:31
arunintelikey: i'm just trying to decide which client to use. i don't like running thunderbird on linux, don't know why05:31
hii<305:31
stonedless than 3?05:32
ice9<305:32
intelikeyarun i now just use fetchmail and Mail05:32
stonedwhat is going on in the world05:32
[ifroog] arun, dont like, or havent tried it ?05:32
ice9hii is a hottie05:32
stonedoh i get it05:32
stoned<3 is bunny ears05:32
stonedahaha05:32
hiiits a heart =[05:32
intelikeyarun but that doesn't support html  have to dump to a file and browse if i want to see html stuffff05:32
stonedwhat05:32
stonedoh05:33
Biovore<305:33
stonedwell i'll be damned05:33
Biovore:D05:33
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arun[ifroog]  i love thunderbird on windows, but i've used it on kubuntu as well, and i don't like the way it looks in kubuntu05:33
stonedI don't like animals05:33
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stonedew05:33
stonedbut they are adorable05:33
intelikeyredshadowhero +o can change that05:33
stonedfrom a distance that is05:33
stonedsame thing with stuff05:34
[Apollo] lol05:34
stonedI use kmail05:34
stonedi ugh.. hate gtk05:34
event_ideany know how to get Beryl working?05:34
stonedit is ugly05:34
se7en^Of^9anybody know how to cp a folder stucture excluding files like .mp305:34
event_ideanyone*05:34
stoned!beryl05:34
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects05:34
arunstoned: i agree with you wholeheartedly05:34
redshadowherointelikey: +o?05:34
[ifroog] arun, ah, yes.. but i think you can change that..05:34
Biovorese7en^Of^9: you can try cp -r05:34
[ifroog] arun, it has a beautiful theme support05:34
intelikeyredshadowhero oh sorry thought you were someone else...   +o  chan op       the sudo of irc05:35
se7en^Of^9Biovore: how do i exclude all mp3 files than05:35
ice9so can anybody tell me whats up with my wireless network not showing up?05:35
arunstoned: have you tried the latest version of the Flock browser? It is awesome... MUCH better, sweeping improvements to the browser since the last time i tried it. it's replaced firefox as my default browser.. looks great, functions much better, did i mention looks great?05:35
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intelikey!wifi | ice9 i can point you at05:35
stonedflock?05:35
arun[ifroog]  all the themes that i liked are available for older versions of tbird only :)05:35
stonedwhat is flock my good man05:35
Biovorese7en^Of^9: cp -r /path/source/*  /path/dest/    that will copy all file in path/source to /path/dest05:36
_mEoHi, how can I switch between qwerty and dvorak easily?05:36
arunstoned: yup. flock05:36
ubotuice9 i can point you at: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:36
arunstoned: have you ever tried it?05:36
redshadowherointelikey: uh.... okay..05:36
stonedi don't even know what it is05:36
intelikeyice9 that's all i can do with wifi Q's   hope it helps.05:36
_mEoDoes anyone know how I can do this?05:36
arunstoned: i wrote about it here, if you're interested: http://themasterplan.in/2007/07/28/flock-this-way/ and here's a screenshot: http://themasterplan.in/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/snapshot_flock4.png05:37
dmuserEvenin everyone05:37
intelikey_mEo kde can do that with a hotkey   you may have to configure it tho05:37
arunevenin dmuser05:37
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josh_Alright.05:38
josh_I need some help05:38
dmuserI have a question about partitioning a drive.  It's currently NTFS, and I had to force mount it because the partition table on it is corrupt.  QTPartition gets an error when I try to examine the drive.  How do I format and repartition this drive?05:38
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intelikey_mEo in kcontrol > parifreals > keyboard    iirc05:38
josh_When I do the add/remove programs on the current version of linux, it claims that another process is using that.05:39
[ifroog] dmuser, to what filesystem ?05:39
dmuserext305:39
josh_However, I can't find the actual applicaiton that is using the file system05:39
arundmuser: try gparted?05:39
dmuserNot yet05:39
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josh_any ideas on how to fix that?05:39
dmuserIt's more robust?05:39
josh_I've rebooted many times.05:39
intelikeyjosh_ close the package manager ?05:39
arungparted is supposedly the best for this sort of thing05:39
josh_how would I go about doing that05:39
[ifroog] dmuser, are you familiar with thelinux disk naming scheme ?05:39
dmuserI shall try it momentarily then05:39
intelikey!adeptcrashfix | josh_05:39
ubotujosh_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 05:39
arunstoned: there?05:40
josh_in the terminal?05:40
dmuserifroog, only loosely05:40
Biovorejosh_: You can only have application open at a time that installs applications..  (things that use APT)  You have something running thats installing applications or quering the database..05:40
[ifroog] dmuser, Then mkfs.ext3 is the command. Check out the man.05:40
josh_thanks I already know that05:40
josh_but I dont understand what it is05:40
intelikeyjosh_ you are sudo'ing it....   all package manipulation needs root access05:40
dmuserman mkfs.ext3?05:40
[ifroog] yes.05:41
josh_whats sudo'ing it?05:41
dmuserOk, thanks05:41
intelikeysudo blah05:41
[ifroog] np05:41
josh_huh?05:41
intelikey!sudo | josh_05:41
ubotujosh_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:41
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josh_oh05:41
intelikeyyeah that's the problem.05:41
josh_how do i fix that?05:42
arunsussussudio05:42
intelikeyyou read the link         ^05:42
intelikeyand yes you can even do that in a console    w3m https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo05:42
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intelikeynext !05:43
josh_alright05:43
josh_so I understand that05:43
josh_but I don't understand hwo to tell which programs are using the apt installer05:44
intelikeyi'll post that link one more time...   (err infonode)05:44
intelikey!adeptcrashfix | josh_05:44
ubotujosh_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 05:44
intelikeyif all you want is the info    fuser -v /var/lib/dpkg/lock05:45
josh_I want a fix05:45
josh_and that seems to be working.05:45
_gtt_what's the keyboard command to activate the k menu?05:46
josh_thank you05:46
josh_your a god.05:46
hiiawe =] 05:46
intelikeyjosh_ not even close.  but you're welcome05:46
_gtt_!keyboard05:47
ubotuTo find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts05:47
_gtt_!Shortcuts05:47
ubotuKeyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net05:47
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josh_it seems like it was a poker game server error05:47
josh_like it kept on trying to set up a server05:47
josh_although I didn't want it to05:47
josh_lol05:47
se7en^Of^9i want to cp all files and subfolder but not all the .mp3 files in it anyone know how to do that05:47
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arunkaledoes anyone know that the microsoft website actually sells ubuntu cds, and calls ubuntu an 'excellent alternative to windows'?05:47
dmuser"If you can't beat 'em; join 'em"?05:48
intelikeyarunkale link ???05:48
[ifroog] se7en^Of^9, huh, use find and rm with grep with regular expressions.05:48
josh_so, what music program plays .mp3?05:48
josh_Because Amaraok doesn't05:48
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intelikeyjosh_ vlc05:48
josh_vlc?05:48
josh_kk05:48
bob_sinclairwhich are the popular command line torrents?05:48
intelikey!mp3 | josh_05:49
ubotujosh_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:49
WhtWolfTeraDynejosh_: Did you install "libxine1-ffmpeg" ?05:49
josh_No.05:49
se7en^Of^9[ifroog] : give me an example i am lost ... tied everything and didn't work05:49
[ifroog] bob_sinclair, bittorrent05:49
josh_I will, but I need vlc to play other content as well05:49
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intelikeydmuser i thought it was "if you can't beet them, start a political campain against them..."   ?05:50
[ifroog] se7en^Of^9, huh, just a sec..05:50
dmuserOnly to idealists :P05:50
intelikeyjosh_ you don't actually need vlc  but vlc can do what most medai apps do without needing the "propritary" crap that they need.05:50
intelikeydmuser :)05:51
se7en^Of^9[ifroog] : its 10 am here i have a lot of time :)05:51
bob_sinclair[ifroog] : thats a bit old that client. i guess im looking for something better than rtorrent if its available05:51
intelikeyktorrent ?05:51
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|_ockehello05:52
intelikey|_ocke05:52
|_ockecan someone tell me what the process naem for Kasbar is so I can kill it05:52
[ifroog] se7en^Of^9, ok you want to remove all the files except mp3s ?05:53
bob_sinclaircli BT05:53
|_ockeI have no intention of having it run but my good friends 18 month old somehow started it on my system and it starts with KDE every time now05:53
arunkaleintelikey: i lost the link.. trying to find it again05:53
dmuserIs it possible to view and modify reiserfs partitions in a Windows environment?  Or is that only possible with ext3(with a plugin)05:53
intelikey|_ocke remove the link/script in ~/.kde/Autostart/05:53
|_ockenone of the processes in htop even resemble the name and after killing 15 k* processes it didnt die, but my whole WM did05:53
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se7en^Of^9[ifroog] : no i want to cp all folder and subfolder but not the mp3 inside05:54
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|_ockenothing exists in ~/.kde/Autostart/05:54
|_ockels -a05:54
|_ockeer05:54
intelikeyhmmmm05:54
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intelikeyok.   what about /etc/rc2.d/   ?05:54
|_ockei see S20kde-guidance05:55
|_ockeand s99rc.local05:55
|_ockeand a bunch of others05:55
intelikeyi dont think a child could affect that unless you leave a root gui running...05:55
|_ockepico S99rc.local05:55
|_ockeer, crap05:55
|_ockeintelikey, i didnt either05:55
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|_ockeand no i would never run ANY gui root05:55
|_ockebut apparently she ran Kasbar somehow and it has been running on the top right ever since05:56
intelikeyso i'm still guessing it's in your $HOME05:56
|_ockei would assume so05:56
|_ockebut i cant find it05:56
|_ockeand i cant find the process running in htop05:56
|_ockenone of the running processes look anything like Kasbar or anything close05:57
intelikeyok grep -HiRe bar ~05:57
|_ockei spent the last 30 mins killing k* processes i didnt recognize, none of them did it and the last one killed my whole WM05:57
intelikeyrun that in a konsole see what it turns up05:57
intelikeygrep -HiRe bar ~05:57
|_ockenothing even close05:58
|_ockemostly MP3s05:58
intelikeyyou may need to filter with   | grep -vie bin05:58
|_ockek05:58
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|_ocke/home/locke/.xsession-errors:QObject::connect:  (receiver name: 'kasbarextension')05:59
intelikeythat's it but it's not it.  anything else05:59
|_ockenothing at all05:59
|_ockei know its it but doesnt help me at all :P05:59
intelikeyright06:00
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|_ockeits gotta be a running process right?06:00
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intelikeywell heck    grep -HiRe bar /etc 2>/dev/null | grep -vie bin06:00
|_ockeits displaying parts of text files now :P06:00
intelikey|_ocke running but probably handeled by xinit not init  thus not in the ps output06:01
|_ockeah06:01
|_ockeim definitely not a moron when it comes to linux and computer science in general so it is really bothering me :P06:02
intelikey|_ocke i have a thought.    you said "i'm not going to be running it"    so how about uninstalling it  ?06:02
|_ockehmm..06:02
|_ockei guess i could do that06:02
|_ockegood call06:02
intelikeythat's the intelikey way  :)06:02
|_ockeapt-cache search kasbar == null :P06:03
intelikey.....06:03
|_ockemaybe ill go in synaptic and look :P06:03
arunkaleWow, just installed Evolution. I expected it to have lots of rough edges like other gtk-based apps, but this looks really good!06:03
|_ockecrap06:03
arunkaleworks great as well.. all sorts of options06:03
|_ockearunkale, no, evolution beats the crap out of outlook any day06:03
arunkale|_ocke: so does thunderbird, but that looks like crap on kubuntu.. evolution looks sexy06:04
|_ocketrue06:04
arunkaleit uses my kde styles06:04
|_ockeevolution does look sexy06:04
arunkaleother gtk apps on my system dont look my kde style06:04
|_ockebut it takes too much memory for me :(06:04
arunkaledont use*06:04
arunkaleevolution is from novell?06:05
intelikeycomputyus say "programmer that know computer, have very strange sex life"06:05
|_ockeKasbar was originally written by Mosfet as a kicker applet, and06:05
|_ockemaybe thats my key06:05
|_ockekicker06:05
|_ockethere is kicker running06:05
Daisuke_Idowell yeah06:05
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intelikeyyeah it's the task bar06:05
arunkalehow do i set filters in evolution?06:05
Daisuke_Idothat panel at the bottom?  that's kicker06:06
|_ockeoh really06:06
|_ockei didnt know that06:06
intelikeykill it and you will  :)06:06
|_ockei've only been using KDE on a consistent basis for about 3 months06:06
|_ockeahahaha06:06
|_ockewell i wont kill it then06:06
Daisuke_Ido|_ocke: check out kickoff :)06:06
|_ockei was just about to kill -9 kicker :D06:06
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|_ockein fact i was typing it up as you said that06:06
intelikeybut you might be on to something    right click the taskbar and configure   see if you can kill kaz that way06:07
Daisuke_Ido!kickoff06:07
ubotuKickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/233106:07
Daisuke_Idoit's groovy :)06:07
arunkaledoes evolution use the mbox format?06:07
|_ockei see no hidden icons in system tray configure06:07
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intelikeynot systray  but the task bar itself06:08
arunkaleDaisuke_Ido: do you use kickoff?06:08
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|_ockehmm06:09
|_ockewhat could kickoff do for my problem?06:09
|_ockei dont see the relevance from that page06:09
intelikey|_ocke did you right click the kasbar and see if you can "delete this pannel" ?06:10
Daisuke_Idoarunkale: yes i do06:10
intelikeyor was that a gnome thing06:10
|_ockeintelikey, i can delete individual Kasbar panels, but not the whole thing06:10
intelikeyi'll shut up now.06:10
Daisuke_Idointelikey: remove from panel > applet > take your pick there06:11
|_ockeintelikey, and if i delete one it just closes the program relevant06:11
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arunkaleDaisuke_Ido: any bugs yet?06:11
Daisuke_Idonot that i've run into06:12
intelikeywhen someone asks an fs or base system Q some ring me.06:12
ardchoille|_ocke: That's what it's suppoed to do. What are you wanting to do?06:12
|_ockei want to kill Kasbar entirely06:12
intelikeyardchoille to kill kasbar permenantly06:12
|_ockei dont want kasbar to run at all06:12
|_ockeim using the normal K taskbar06:12
|_ockeit is just redundant06:13
|_ockeif i wanted windowmaker buttons i'd run windowmaker06:13
|_ockeitd take a tenth the memory hehe06:13
|_ockeAHAHAHHHAHH!HH!H!H!06:14
ardchoille|_ocke: kasbar doesn't run until you launch it. you can do "ps aux | grep kasbar|, find the pid and kill it.06:14
|_ockeI FREAKING GOT IT06:14
|_ockeardchoille, that doesnt work06:14
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|_ockeardchoille, there is no process with kasbar anywhere in the name06:14
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ardchoilleThen you've got something wrong because it works here06:14
intelikey|_ocke you got ?06:14
|_ockebut i just found a page showing how to start it, which is by right clicking the KDE taskbar -> add new panel -> Kasbar06:15
intelikeythat's what i said  ^^^^06:15
|_ockeso by reverse intuition i right clicked taskbar, remove from panel -> kasbar (right)06:15
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intelikeyand you should be able to get rid the same way06:15
|_ockeintelikey, from what you said i right clicked on the kasbar06:15
|_ockei never considered to right click on the taskbar on bottom06:16
intelikey<intelikey> but you might be on to something    right click the taskbar and  configure   see if you can kill kaz that way   (very next post) <intelikey> not systray  but the task bar itself06:16
|_ockeomg thank zeus/jesus/cthulhu/flying spaghetti monster its gone06:16
|_ockeeh06:16
|_ockei guess im ignorant or scannign instead of reading06:16
|_ockeholy crap06:17
|_ockei need a cigarette now06:17
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intelikeyso the truth of the matter is if you had killed kicker kasbar would have went with it.06:18
intelikeybut restarting it would have restarted both06:18
|_ockeprobably06:19
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|_ockenow i have to walk someone through installing DD-WRT on their 54g over the phone06:19
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arunkalecan i minimise evolution to the panel?06:20
arunkalesystem tray*06:20
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Nancy_paulineI'm in the process of moving over from Suse (micro-Novell-soft??)  and running Kubuntu right now.  If I enable multiverse will I get the dix codecs ....  etc?  If not,  what needs to be done?06:23
Daisuke_Idoenabling multiverse should be all you need to do06:24
Daisuke_Idowell, and updating and installing them, of course06:24
Daisuke_Idobut you get the idea06:24
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Nancy_paulineI didn't see it after enabling I will look again though06:25
Daisuke_IdoNancy_pauline: sudo apt-get update06:26
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ice9how can I stop a specific module?06:27
[ifroog] intelikey, if <se7en^Of^9> get back asking for the mp3 thingy.. tell him to give this a try..06:27
[ifroog] cp `find |grep -e '[^\.mp3] $'` DESTINATION_DIR -rfv06:28
[ifroog] i Got to run..06:28
[ifroog] Thank you !06:28
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Nancy_paulineOk,  that worked.  Next question  please?  I'm running Opera and trying to get flash to work.  Such as Youtube,  etc.  Anything specific I need to know?  I've tried 2 different flash player thingies with No luck.06:29
bob_sinclairamy rtorrent users here?06:29
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Agent_bobhmm  /msg neckserv doesn't work....   :)06:31
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ice9is there a way to view available wireless networks?06:37
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bob_sinclair!info knetworkmanager06:39
ubotuknetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu12 (feisty), package size 232 kB, installed size 1496 kB06:39
bob_sinclairice9: use that its an tray icon06:39
ice9I have that, but it only shows wired connection and manual connection06:39
Hobbseeice9: if you do an iwlist <wireless interface, like ath0> scan, does it bring up anything?06:41
arunkalei cant install thunderbird 2 from adept?06:41
ice9yes, lets of things06:43
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Scorpaeni'm in trouble ....06:43
Scorpaencustom kernel06:43
Scorpaen:D06:43
Scorpaenand i accidentally overwrote the default kernel06:44
Scorpaenbasically what's happening is: my macchine is stuck at mounting the root hd.06:44
Scorpaenit's reiserfs and i have reiserfs compiled in...06:44
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Scorpaeni thikn i reversed my devices somehow. i have a pci controller and onboard PATA controlers for my PATA hard drives06:44
Scorpaeni just now took out 'boot offboard chipsets first' and it still didn't help06:45
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Agent_bobScorpaen fs support but no disk support06:45
ScorpaenAgent_bob: do i need pc dos partition support?06:45
Scorpaeni didn't configure advanced partitoin06:45
Scorpaeni just now put htat back in but dindt' try it06:45
Scorpaensorry for hte typos i'm exhausted06:45
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Agent_bobScorpaen you need disk support   and maybe partition support too06:46
Agent_bobScorpaen ide-disk   ide-core06:46
Agent_bobassuming ide06:46
ScorpaenAgent_bob: afaik i have my nforce2 and raid controller compiled in06:46
Scorpaenyes ide06:46
Scorpaeni'm in make menuconfig now06:46
Scorpaenhttp://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu?s=38cebe95a9d48a6fd7e605f4cc8b4c0b&06:47
Scorpaeni followed this guide06:47
Scorpaenworks great if i could just get hte kernel correct06:47
Scorpaen:P06:47
bob_sinclair!wireless | ice906:47
ubotuice9: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:47
Agent_bobScorpaen yeah ubuntu's modus operandus is bare kernel bloated initramfs image file06:48
Scorpaeni came from gentoo if that tells you anything06:49
Scorpaeni'm on Gutsy06:49
Scorpaenthe alpha release06:49
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ScorpaenAgent_bob: please tell me more about this ide disk and ide core06:49
Agent_bobi know what gutsy gibon is   and that tells me more06:49
Scorpaenwhere do i find that in make menuconfig?06:49
Scorpaenyessir06:50
Scorpaensorry06:50
ScorpaenAgent_bob: if i upload my .config somewhere, would you mind looking it over?06:50
Scorpaenand i can pastebin my lspci06:50
Scorpaen?06:50
Agent_bobScorpaen sure06:50
Scorpaenthanks man06:50
Scorpaenbrb06:50
Agent_bob!paste06:50
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:50
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bharanihi06:51
Agent_bobbharani06:51
bharani hi agent06:51
bharaniI am new to this place06:51
Scorpaenhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31877/06:51
Scorpaenthere's the lspci, Agent_bob06:52
Scorpaenbrb for the .config06:52
bharaniwould u give me quick tips06:52
bharanifor  ajump start06:52
Agent_bob!msgthebot06:52
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...06:52
bharani!msgthebot ..?06:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about msgthebot ..? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:52
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Agent_bob!ubotu06:52
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:52
lorololi has a prublm!! halp pluz!!06:53
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bharaniagent?06:53
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Agent_bobbharani that's a tip.  use /msg and ask ubotu things.06:53
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Lynourelorolol: If you really have a problem, and want help for it, please describe it.06:55
Hobbseeice9: did you find that knm updated with it?06:55
Hobbseeheya Lynoure06:55
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Lynourehi Hobbsee06:55
ice9no I got a wifi-radar that does it06:56
ice9however, I'm not getting an IP from my wireless network, any ideas for that?06:56
Agent_bobbharani here's another nugget,  you didn't learn windows in a day don't expect to learn linux in an hour.     one kinda has to unlearn M$ to learn linux06:56
lorolollol, learn m$$?06:57
lorolollearn m$$? More like m$ brainwashed06:57
lorololI don't think m$$ is learning, is more like indoctrination06:57
Agent_boblorolol yeah,  you'd be surprised that the people that can't do anything in a windows system so i suppose it requires some learning06:57
lorololLynoure: I am doing several installation at the same time and I'd like to set up VNC06:58
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lorololI've got the client what part do I need to set on the remote Linux?06:58
lorololin fact Kubuntu06:58
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se7en^Of^9i want to cp all folder and subfolder but not the mp3 inside any idea06:59
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lorololse7en^Of^9: man cp06:59
Agent_bobin M$ im like "ok i dl'd this program, now what's the name of the packagemanager/installer so i can install winrar.exe?"   heh.06:59
ice9anybody know why I can't get an IP on my wireless network?07:00
pacmanhmm07:00
Lynourelorolol: Kubuntu comes with VNC installed. See Krfb in the menu, but I'm not sure if there is any non-graphical way to start it07:00
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lorololLynoure: graphical is aight07:01
nicolaslorolol: you can start a vnc server from commandline with x11vnc07:01
Agent_bobse7en^Of^9 find07:01
lorololwait so on the remote Kubuntu what do I start?07:01
Lynourenicolas: after installing it, sure.07:01
nicolasLynoure: of course, but im not speaking to a beginner so he already knows07:02
vbhidedo i need to install all the available updates?07:02
vbhideits like 200mb of downloas07:02
Agent_bobse7en^Of^9 just in case that was too vague...       find /base/dir/ -type d -exec mkdir -p /new/base/dir/'{}' \;07:03
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Lynourenicolas: want to take it from this on? :)07:03
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nicolas:P07:04
se7en^Of^9Agent_bob: thanks yes it was kind of vague07:04
LynoureI have not had breakfast yet, and he does not need two people to help him07:04
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nicolaslorolol: you can use Krfb in the K menu07:05
nicolasLynoure: go eat07:05
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nicolaslorolol: under the Internet submenu07:06
Agent_bobHobbsee hmmm  an offender ?07:06
HobbseeAgent_bob: yeah.  bot goiing around running exploits, then parting07:06
Scorpaenhey Agent_bob here's my current .config : http://training.ctchosting.com/pcampbell/config07:06
Agent_bobah ok.07:06
lorololnicolas: ok thanks, I will try right now. For real I've having to install several installations simultaneously and is just a pain in the neck. Also the other shitty part about Ub/Ku is that you can't SSH install!!!07:07
se7en^Of^9Agent_bob: that would cp only the folder and subfolder but i need the .jpg and plain text files inside but not the mp307:07
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dsmith_Agent_bob: your name reminds me of Microsoft Bob07:07
Agent_bobse7en^Of^9 now you are changing the criteria07:07
lorololI mean cmon07:07
ScorpaenAgent_bob: 01:0a.0 RAID bus controller: Silicon Image, Inc. PCI0680 Ultra ATA-133 Host Controller (rev 02)07:07
Scorpaeni'm using that plus hte nforce2 onboard controller07:07
Agent_bobbut same app can do it  jsut needs more switches07:07
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Agent_bobse7en^Of^9 ^07:07
nicolaslorolol: i guess you could if you really wanted07:08
Agent_bobScorpaen ok i'm looking now.07:08
ScorpaenAgent_bob: i appreciate it man. i'm tired. not thinking clearly. and i need to get this back up and runing07:08
Scorpaenheh07:08
lorololnicolas: not having the ability of ssh install is not being serious07:09
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lorolola serious distro.07:09
nicolaslorolol: such as ?07:09
se7en^Of^9sorry i did ask more detailed before but got no responce Agent_bob07:09
ScorpaenAgent_bob: as long as i have it compiled in the kernel, not in the init image, should work too right??07:09
Scorpaeni mean a kernel is a kernel.... i hope07:10
Scorpaen:s07:10
lorololnicolas: Gentoo, BSD, Debian, etc..07:10
lorololthey all offer ssh install07:10
lorololalso I complain that there isn't a completely CLI way of installing Ub/Ku07:10
Agent_bobScorpaen yeah   but i think i found what you overlooked   "# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_IDE is not set "07:10
Scorpaenlorolol: i use gentoo for servers, kubuntu for desktops07:10
lorololI don't want stinky text dialogs07:10
ScorpaenAgent_bob: where is that in make menuconfig?07:10
Scorpaenunder ATA ATAPI?07:11
nicolaslorolol: dunno, i use the same install since 199007:11
vbhidedo i have to install all the available updates on adept?07:11
nicolas:)07:11
Agent_bobScorpaen set that to =y     i'm not sure where   block device support i assume07:11
Agent_bobScorpaen i just greped it out of your config file   i'd just sed edit the config and go.07:12
nicolaslorolol: you got it with krfb ?07:12
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Agent_bobbut probably safer to use the configuration process07:13
lorololnicolas: now, setting the invitation. Now on the one that  I am making the connection07:13
lorololI have vnx07:13
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ScorpaenAgent_bob: i'm going to do it now. thanks07:14
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Scorpaenbrb07:14
lorololone thing that Kub beats Gentoo is the tab comletion. It's awsome07:14
vbhideall the updates add to around 200 mb.... hope its not necessary07:14
lorololyou can even tab complete each commands options!!!07:14
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pacman<===still can't get keyboard to work in KDE07:15
Agent_bobok se7en^Of^9 something like and you'll have to test this.       find /blah/ ! -iname *.mp3 -exec cp '{}' /new/dir \;       cause i'm not sure it will preserve sub dirs...  in fact i doubt it.07:15
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hitmanWillypacman: still? did you try configuring the layout?07:15
ScorpaenAgent_bob: i just aborted an upgrade now the db for adept is locked. how to clear th elock?07:16
pacmanyeah, I tried all the options07:16
pacmaneven switched keyboards and did the same, still nothing07:16
Agent_bobse7en^Of^9 ask in #bash   be exact and be patient.07:16
hitmanWillypacman: did you try disabling the keyboard layout altogether?07:16
pacmanyes07:16
hitmanWillyhmmm07:16
Agent_bob!adaptcrashfix | Scorpaen07:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adaptcrashfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:16
Agent_bob!adeptcrashfix | Scorpaen07:17
ubotuScorpaen: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 07:17
hitmanWillypacman: lemme think for a minute...07:17
pacmanhow can I access the setup menu (the one from when I installed) from Console07:18
arunkalewhy wont katapult launch evolution for me07:18
lorololit half gets there07:18
lorololI get authentication error07:18
se7en^Of^9thanks Agent_bob07:18
hitmanWillypacman: you could try reconfiguring X, it sounds like that's where the problem may be...07:18
Lynourearunkale: knowing you, you do have evolution installed. What does it do instead?07:19
lorololbut I am putting the proper password07:19
Agent_bobse7en^Of^9 heh heck, what i'd do is a simple hack    cp -R /blah /new/blah ;find /new/blah -iname *.mp3 -exec rm '{}' \;     hehhe07:19
lorololdammit!!07:19
pacmanhow do I get in to reconfigure X?07:19
Agent_bobse7en^Of^9 unless bandwidth was a factor of course07:19
lorololdo I have to copy the - symbol?07:19
arunkaleLynoure: ha, yeah I just installed Evolution and I love it. Works and looks great. It doesn't launch evolution, doesn't really do anything instead07:19
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hitmanWillypacman: sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg if im not mistaken07:20
arunkaleLynoure: do i need to restart x for katapult to add evolution to its catalog?07:20
Lynourearunkale: if you just installed it now, I guess it is possible katapult goes through the catalogs only at its startup07:20
lorololWOAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!07:20
lorololWTF??!!07:20
Lynourearunkale: not sure, that's what I try, before or after strace.07:20
pacmanlemme try it, I'll be back07:20
Scorpaenoh wow... i think i just found out how to restore my generic kernel. i had nuked boot from the ramfs on the livecd and mounted my real boot into it, the apt upgrade system just copied the kernel and initramfs to the real /boot07:21
Scorpaenlol07:21
arunkaleLynoure: alright07:21
arunkaleScorpaen: good for you07:21
lorololyo this is kewl!!07:21
lorololhow come is so simple and fast?07:21
lorololI thought it was gonna be mad hard07:22
arunkalelorolol: what is simple and fast?07:22
Agent_bobScorpaen more than one way to pull the hide off a felion07:22
ScorpaenAgent_bob: lol07:22
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lorololarunkale: VNC07:22
lorololthis is insane07:22
lorololbut too slow07:22
lorololwhy is too slow?07:23
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lorololis laggy as  hell07:23
arunkalewhat's VNC07:23
Lynoureyou just said it was fast... make up your mind or provide some context07:23
Agent_bob!info vnc07:23
ubotuPackage vnc does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas07:23
ice9any wireless network experts in here? I can't seem to get an IP07:23
Agent_bob!info tightvnc07:23
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ubotuPackage tightvnc does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas07:23
crimsunice9: associated with the AP?07:24
Agent_bobwell poo07:24
ardchoille!search vnc07:24
ubotuFound: screencast, vnc, vncfix07:24
lorololAgent_bob: tightvnc is faster?07:24
crimsunit's tightvncviewer07:24
ice9I'm not sure about that Crimsun, how can I find out?07:24
Lynourearunkale: "virtual network console", a way to use remote desktop like it was it's own.07:24
ardchoille!vnc07:24
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX07:24
lorololI am using VNC on the Gentoo end07:24
crimsun!info tightvncviewer07:24
Agent_bob!info vnc-common07:24
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lorololand Kubs stock VNC server07:24
ubotuPackage tightvncviewer does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas07:24
ubotuvnc-common: Virtual network computing server software. In component main, is optional. Version 3.3.7-13ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 59 kB, installed size 184 kB07:24
LynoureVNC is a slow protocol07:24
lorololand is slowz as a fat ...07:24
crimsunprepend x, sorry07:25
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pacmanstill nothing.07:25
crimsunice9: look at iwconfig07:25
lorololw00t@VNCoverSSH07:25
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arunkaleevolution won't send my emails07:25
arunkalei'm sure my smtp config is correct07:25
lorololwait a minute are you telling me that Kubs is not over SSH?'07:25
Agent_bobcrimsun where you been hiden' ?07:25
ice9!paste07:25
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:25
crimsunAgent_bob: ?07:25
ice9Crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31879/07:26
Agent_bobhadn't been seeing you around07:26
Lynourearunkale: and the smtp server allows you to send?07:26
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crimsunAgent_bob: career change involving much more travel07:26
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Lynourearunkale: if you contact it manually, can you get a mail through?07:27
hitmanWillypacman: hmmmm07:27
arunkaleLynoure: contact what?07:27
Lynourearunkale: the smtp server.07:27
crimsunice9: good, and now `sudo dhclient ath0'07:27
hitmanWillypacman: so nothing works in KDE at all, but you can login through kdm?07:28
intelikeycrimsun i C++    you like ?    glad for you if so.07:28
crimsunintelikey: definitely a positive change.07:28
arunkaleLynoure: what do you mean by manually?07:28
intelikeyk good    i'll get back on topic now.   just wanted to say howdy.07:28
Lynourearunkale: quite often at least corporate smtp servers simply do not accept you to send anything unless you are in their network. (or authenticate, in some cases)07:28
Scorpaenhey bob here i go07:29
Scorpaenbbiab!07:29
intelikeyScorpaen k07:29
arunkaleLynoure: it was just working a minute ago, now i cant send or receive emails after i restarted the client07:29
ice9Crimsun http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31880/07:29
Lynourearunkale: here is a step-by-step for you: http://www.rdpslides.com/webresources/FAQ00035.htm07:29
Lynourearunkale: oh, so it worked before? Totally different situation, then.07:29
arunkaleLynoure: yeah, it worked before07:30
crimsunice9: 7.04 or 7.10?07:30
intelikeyarunkale firewall change ?07:30
jimisholhi all. one little help with kontact. it is few days that takes several minutes to start and it seems to use too much system source. Vmsize is 1409320 is it normal?07:30
ice9Crimsun 7.0407:30
crimsunice9: tried the 7.10 tribe 3 live cd?07:30
ice9no, think I'll have better luck with it?07:31
intelikeyjimishol long startup no size yeah about that07:31
crimsunice9: newer mac layer, so yeah07:31
ice9Crimsun will I be able to upgrade to it? Without losing everything07:31
arunkaleworks now, i just restarted evolution07:32
arunkaleweird07:32
crimsunice9: just try the live cd; you don't need to install it07:32
ice9but I mean if it does work and I do decide to install it07:33
intelikeyice test first if you have good results then in a month or two you can install the newer release....07:33
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ice9and where do I obtain it? I don't see it on the site07:34
crimsunhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-July/000319.html07:35
se7en^Of^9intelikey: rsync does the trick thanks anyway07:35
intelikeyarunkale kinda sounds a little like some gtk something not starting correctly     hit and miss kinda thing      but i'm no expert there.    if you can reproduce the condition on successive restarts then file a bug on it07:35
intelikeyse7en^Of^9 hmmm ok.    don't know why i didn't think of using rsync locally....07:36
intelikeyse7en^Of^9 who put you on to that ?07:36
ice9oh, one more question, how can I browse to the router settings? In windows I was able to just type the IP in a folder or web browser, but not the case here07:36
jimisholcan anyone check with ksysguard the VMsize of kontact?07:36
se7en^Of^9#bash and i use rsync anyway07:37
se7en^Of^9#bash and i use rsync anyway intelikey07:37
intelikeyse7en^Of^9 well there ya go then   :)07:37
miles!iptables07:37
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).07:37
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yurimxpxmanis there any way to increase the desktop icon size without changing the icons in the file browser?07:38
intelikeys/.*or GUIapplications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE)/$*which are just frontends to iptables anyway/07:39
arunkalei think i'll stick with kmail07:39
arunkalehow do i add an 'account' to an 'identity' in kmail?07:39
intelikeyin it's menu configure it07:40
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arunkalealright07:40
intelikeyerr actually i never found a way to add smtp's but adding other fetches is easy07:40
arunkaleit doesn't seem to be downloading any old email from my server.. i want it to download all the emails that are currently on my server07:42
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pacman*sighs*07:42
intelikeydon't have "leave a copy on the server" ticked do you ?07:42
pacmanwho's been helping me with my keyboard issue?  all that showed on bitchx was <       >07:43
arunkaleintelikey: i do07:43
intelikeyarunkale well the old emails are probably marked as already dl'd on the server...  you can use a web browser and mark them as unseen   might do the trick07:44
arunkalealright, will try07:44
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intelikeyclose kmail first or you may confuse something07:44
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intelikeymonkey C monkey do,  except in #kubuntu where monkey C monkey get confused and ask stupid questions....07:45
pacmanheh07:45
intelikeyi should have quoted that,  i think someone in here said that one time07:46
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intelikeypacman maybe   "<hitmanWilly> pacman: you could try reconfiguring X,..."07:48
milesum07:48
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intelikeysorry i was slow on seeing what you were asking07:48
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arunkaleintelikey: damn. looks like evolution downloaded all the email from my server and deleted everything on there, even though i had enabled the option of leaving everything on the server07:48
arunkaleaaaaa07:48
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arunkalei'll just move the mbox file from evolution, i guess07:49
hii<307:49
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intelikeyarunkale and you don't have the ~/.evolution/   mail dir ....      :S07:49
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arunkaleintelikey: i'll move it from the ~/.evolution/mail/local07:50
intelikeyarunkale heh or you could forward them all to yourself   hehheh07:50
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intelikeyyou can see it's almost quiting time....  :)07:50
arunkaleha no thanks07:50
arunkalekatapult launched kontact but not kmail07:51
arunkalecan i launch just kmail from katapult07:51
intelikeyi don't know that i've ever seen/used katapult07:51
intelikeyQ.  what do linux users do?07:52
intelikeyA.  they install software.07:52
intelikeyQ.  what do kde users do?07:52
intelikeyA.  they configure kde.07:52
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arunkalegot all my files from evolution properly07:55
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arunkalecool07:55
holycowno one configures kde07:55
intelikeyheh07:55
holycowthats becuase no one can figure out what to configure where07:55
intelikeyholycow i thought that was a given.      right click it07:56
Daisuke_Idoi admit, i chuckled07:57
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holycowintelikey: lol well heres athought: change the default gateway of your nick card, or the default domainto log in to07:57
Daisuke_Idoi finished configuring kde though07:57
holycowits not exactly easy to find :)07:57
arunkalecant you compose html messages using kmail?07:57
intelikeyarunkale i don't think so...07:58
arunkaleouch07:58
intelikeywell not in a wyzwyg way07:58
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intelikeyi could be wrong.   someone speak up.07:59
intelikeyDaisuke_Ido until when ?07:59
intelikey:)07:59
Daisuke_Idofor a while i suppose08:00
Daisuke_Idoi haven't had to mess with any kde settings in a while08:00
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intelikeybut i havent seen kde in * months08:00
intelikeyit does seem like a lot of time i wasted just changing stuff in the "look and feel" area tho08:01
intelikeyjust think of all the irc text i could have posted insted08:02
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ubuntu_hi08:10
intelikeyyes ?08:10
ubuntu_i'm trying too change my nickname08:10
ubuntu_and i'm having problems08:10
ubuntu_help plz08:10
ubuntu_lol08:10
intelikey/nick something08:10
ubuntu_k thanks08:10
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ubuntu_not working08:11
intelikeyjust say that back to me...08:11
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intelikey/nick something08:11
ubuntu_i tried08:11
ubuntu_i did it just like that08:11
intelikeyhmmm08:11
ubuntu_any website08:12
ubuntu_that shows me how?08:12
intelikeywhat client ?08:12
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ubuntu_that i can look at08:12
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ubuntu_konversation08:12
ubuntu_kubuntu08:12
ubuntu_7.0408:12
intelikey/nick  should work08:12
ubuntu_well i did it just like that08:12
ubuntu_many times08:12
Gun_Monkeyanyone else have problems with Atheros wireless NICs?08:12
intelikeybut there is also a menu itom for that08:13
ubuntu_ya i know08:13
ubuntu_i went there08:13
ubuntu_settings configure08:13
ubuntu_didn't see it08:13
intelikeyubuntu_ it might have something to do with it being the live cd...  don't see why tho08:13
ubuntu_there has too be a website08:13
ubuntu_tho with somethign about it08:13
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ubuntu_everythign08:14
ubuntu_has a website08:14
ubuntu_lol08:14
ubuntu_so give me it plz08:14
ubuntu_i know there is one08:14
ubuntu_that woudl help08:14
ubuntu_a lot08:14
intelikeyubuntu_  not in the settings configure   some place else    just to set the nick...08:14
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ubuntu_i tried that08:14
ubuntu_so ur saying08:14
ubuntu_u cant' do it from settings?08:14
ubuntu_at all08:14
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ubuntu_cause i dont' see anything listed under that08:15
ubuntu_too change ur nickname08:15
intelikeyactually all i'm saying is your use of the enter key is annoying08:15
ubuntu_well i'm trying too figure this out08:15
intelikeycan't you type more that two words with hitting return08:15
ubuntu_ya i can08:15
ubuntu_omg08:16
ubuntu_lol08:16
ubuntu_just help me08:16
ubuntu_damn dude08:16
ubuntu_i'm not tryign too be annoying08:16
ubuntu_this been pissing me off08:16
ubuntu_ain't gotta be a dick08:16
kalorin`heh08:16
kalorin`what irc client are you using?08:16
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ubuntu_konversation08:17
ubuntu_of course08:17
ubuntu_not mirc08:17
ubuntu_this is linux08:17
kalorin`more importantly, can you simply type /nick frustrated08:17
ubuntu_lmfao08:17
kalorin`ha, you're funny08:17
kalorin`(not)08:17
ubuntu_no i can't08:17
kalorin`try to just type "/nick funnyGuy"08:17
ubuntu_duh08:17
ubuntu_i dont' want my nickname08:18
ubuntu_as funny guy08:18
ubuntu_dumbass08:18
ubuntu_lol08:18
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dumbassworks for me08:18
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ubuntu_lmfao08:18
ubuntu_u are one?08:18
ubuntu_ok lmfao08:18
kalorn`sure08:18
ubuntu_damn dude08:18
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kalorin`and I'm using konversation on linux08:18
ubuntu_oh ya08:19
ubuntu_wat distro?08:19
kalorin`lmfao, rotfl, omg!08:19
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ubuntu_i bet u using08:19
kalorin`um #kubuntu08:19
kalorin`2:19am08:19
ubuntu_ya right ur using08:19
ubuntu_pc linux08:19
ubuntu_dont' lie08:19
ubuntu_haha08:19
kalorin`rotfl, you're a stich08:19
kalorin`welp good night08:19
ubuntu_a snitch?08:19
ubuntu_u mean08:19
ubuntu_not stich08:19
ubuntu_lmfao08:20
kalorin`stitch08:20
ubuntu_hmm08:20
kalorin`2:20am, I'm not competing in a speeling bee08:20
ubuntu_well make sense08:20
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ubuntu_lmfao08:20
kalorin`especially with someone that is such a jolly good fellow but can't change their irc nick08:20
kalorin`;)08:20
ubuntu_stfu08:21
intelikey:)08:21
kalorin`lmfao108:21
arunkalewhere are my kmail emails stored08:21
ubuntu_lmfao08:21
ubuntu_just because u been using linux08:21
ubuntu_for ever08:21
ubuntu_and i haven't08:21
ubuntu_fuck u08:21
ubuntu_man08:21
ubuntu_lol08:21
ubuntu_wateva08:21
ubuntu_ill find out08:21
ubuntu_from someone else08:21
ubuntu_then u08:21
ubuntu_its cool08:21
ubuntu_haha08:21
kalorin`settings -> chat window -> check box "show box to change own nickname"08:22
kalorin`enjoy08:22
Gun_Monkeyif you're done with your pissing match, does anyone know if the atheros wireless nics can work with Kubuntu08:22
Gun_Monkey?08:22
arunkaleanyone?08:22
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intelikey!wifi | Gun_Monkey i think so have a look08:23
ubotuGun_Monkey i think so have a look: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:23
Gun_MonkeyI've tried for about 3 days, and I can't get linux to pick up the card08:23
arunkalewhere are my kmail emails stored? which folder?08:23
ubuntu_hey thinks but he not sure08:24
ubuntu_lmfao08:24
intelikeyarunkale if it's not ~/.kmail/something   look ~/.kde/apps/kmail/something08:24
arunkaleintelikeys: it's not in there08:25
arunkaleah found it08:25
arunkaleit's in ~/.kde/share/apps/08:25
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Gun_Monkeyyeah, I think that is the stuff I tired08:26
Gun_Monkeytried*08:26
intelikeyarunkale ?  oh ok.   yeah i missed /share/  sorry.08:26
Gun_Monkeylooks like I'll have to buy a PC card08:26
Gun_Monkeyno biggy, Atheros sucks anywya08:26
ubuntu_lmfao that sucks08:26
ubuntu_wireless08:27
ubuntu_usally sucks08:27
ubuntu_anyways08:27
ubuntu_so wtf08:27
intelikey!ops | would you please show ubuntu_ to the door now08:27
ubotuwould you please show ubuntu_ to the door now: Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!08:27
ubuntu_if u cant' pick of signals08:27
Gun_MonkeyI'm trying to cut windows out of my life as much as possible08:27
ubuntu_its garbage08:27
ubuntu_lol08:27
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intelikeythank you Hobbsee08:27
arunkalei've set my fixed font to freemono, but for some emails, it shows some other monospace font08:27
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Hobbseei actually wanted kickban by domain.  darn.08:28
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intelikeythat'll nail his britches leg to the floor08:29
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intelikeymy ignore is broken    i don't even know how long that's been   i hardly ever use it anymore08:31
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intelikeyooops i see why,  my irc client isn't even installed...08:33
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milanorexso.. big gulps huh?08:35
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intelikeymilanorex ?08:38
Gun_MonkeyI really need to get a second monitor again08:39
lorololwhy I get in ALL my packages this warning? "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!"08:39
lorololthat's weird08:39
lorololshouldn't they be authenticated?08:39
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intelikeylorolol gnupg not installed or the key not downloaded from the server08:40
intelikeyubuntu-keyring  is a metapackage that should fix that,    do and update afterwards08:40
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lorololintelikey: gnupg IS installed08:43
milanorexanyone else using compiz? it kills my window manager when loading. it works fine on xubuntu though08:43
sbucat=) i use beryl08:43
lorololhow do I /wi608:44
holycowspeaking of beryl, i just installed it and using beryl window manager means i can't get window decorations drawn08:45
holycowis this common?08:45
milanorexsame problem i'm having with compiz08:45
intelikey#ubuntu-effects08:46
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holycowshouldnt that be kubuntu-effects?08:46
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holycowkde and gnome aren't exactly the same08:46
intelikey!beryl08:46
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects08:46
intelikey                   ^08:46
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holycowi know what beryl is08:47
intelikey</shrugs>08:47
holycowlol08:47
intelikeyholycow read the infonode.08:47
holycowoh jesus stop, just go away08:47
holycowi really hate people giving me ridiculous information08:47
intelikeyhelp is in #ubuntu-effects08:47
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holycowyeh congratulations08:48
holycowcan you type that again please?08:48
holycowi didn't get it08:48
intelikeyi don't need this.08:48
milanorex!ubuntu-effects08:48
ubotuFor help with 3d desktop effects applications or drivers please join #ubuntu-effects, someone there will be glad to help you. You can read http://forum.beryl-project.org/ for most common problems or questions.08:48
holycowlol08:49
holycowoh man08:49
holycowamazing08:49
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combo- where i can edit kubuntu start-up programs? i mean the programs that will be launched just after logging in ? :)08:51
holycowthats in the session manager08:52
holycowi just don't know where that is in kde08:52
arunkalecombo: kmenu > system settings > advanced > session manager08:52
combobut i cannot find it08:52
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comboarunkale: yes, yes , iknow08:53
comboarunkale: but i can't find this option there :/08:53
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arunkalecombo: check in system services08:53
combochecking out....08:54
dromeraarg, my system just recovered from a kernel panic (getting these more often lately) .. any ideas on how to find out what happened and how te prevent it?08:55
holycowmy kde just remembers what was running if if i shut it down and starts it up08:55
holycowheh08:55
holycowi gotta figure out how to configure kde properly there are A LOT of settings everywhere08:55
comboarunkale: ok, found that - thanks a lot ;)08:55
Gun_Monkeycrap, just forgot where the ftp program is08:55
holycowGun_Monkey: konqueror08:55
Gun_Monkeyhmm, tried that, but I didn't see an FTP connect option08:55
Gun_Monkeylet me look again08:55
holycowftp://user@ip.add.re.ss:port08:56
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arunkalecombo: no problem08:56
arunkalebrb08:56
chxhi i have a 4693522403 file which i need to write on a data dvd. please advice. k3b complains about that it can't add bigger than 4.0G08:56
Gun_Monkeyif its windows, you have to download a shell script08:57
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holycowwell that file is 4.6 gig08:57
holycowso yes08:57
holycowyou need to get a bigger dvd08:57
chxno, no, it does not add to the data dvd project08:58
holycowwell that still makes sense08:58
chxi guess it does08:59
chxancient standards08:59
chxbut i have Linux08:59
holycowso do all ofus08:59
Gun_Monkeyhmm, still not finding the ftp option08:59
holycow:)08:59
chxI would guess it can overcome this08:59
holycowi haven't used k3bb in like years so can't suggest an alternative except gnome baker08:59
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chxlet me ask another way09:00
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chxhow can i put UDF on a dvd?09:00
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chxudftools ah09:02
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chxhow lovely everything is an apt-get away :)09:02
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holycowlife is easy on the dark side eh?09:02
holycowwhats with allthe people joining and leaving?09:03
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dolemite01Anyone awake atm?09:04
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holycowdolemite!09:05
holycowheh cool nick09:05
dolemite01thanks09:05
Gun_MonkeyI am09:05
dolemite01im installing kubuntu feisty 7.04 from the livecd, i have windowsxp on there now, in the step where it wants to parition, so im going to do manual09:06
Gun_Monkeybut I'm trying to get ftp working09:06
dolemite01i can't find a wiki on this tho09:06
Gun_Monkeyfunny I've seen it a hundred times when I didn't need it09:06
Gun_Monkeynow that I do, I can't remember how to get to it09:06
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holycowbrother its just konqueror09:08
holycowftp://user@ip:port09:08
holycowwhat part of that doesn't work for you?09:08
holycowi just did ftp://ftp.debian.org to test and works great09:08
Gun_Monkeythe finding it part09:08
Gun_Monkeyheh09:08
holycowfinding what?09:08
holycowkonqueror?09:08
Gun_Monkeythere is no standalone ftp client?09:08
holycowhit alt / f209:08
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holycowtyp-e in konqueror09:08
holycowjesuse stop already!09:09
holycowstop the ftp client windows nonsense09:09
holycowkonqueror does ftp, ssh and pretty much everything under the sun09:09
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Gun_Monkeyconsidering I just started using linux, I could use a little slack09:09
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holycowctrl / l to split the konq window into two vertically to get the standard client layout09:09
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holycowGun_Monkey: okay sorry :)09:09
holycowlets try this again, you can't find  konqueror?09:10
dolemite01any ideas on the dual booting question?09:10
dolemite01http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=feistydual06rw5.png09:10
dolemite01i dont have those options09:10
Gun_MonkeyI have konqueror open09:10
dolemite01Mine are : Guided - use entire disk, guided -use the largets amount of free space, or manual09:10
holycow just type in ftp://ftp.debian.org in the address bar to test09:11
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holycowit should connect you right away09:11
chx sudo mkudffs /dev/pktcdvd/dvd09:11
chxSegmentation fault09:11
chxi got this far09:11
chxnow I am out of ideas.09:11
holycowyou can press ctrl / l to get standard ftp left/right layout09:11
holycowsorry09:11
holycowits ctrl / shift / l09:11
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holycowdolemite01: you might take automatic setup instead of manual because your primary partition probably needs resizing09:12
holycowdolemite01: however question for you, have you backed up all your windows stuff?09:13
dolemite01yes09:13
holycowthis is the part where people erase their windows partitions because they aren't sure of the consequences of the choices they make09:13
holycowokay09:13
holycow:)09:13
holycowjust checking09:13
dolemite01whenever i choose guided - continous space09:13
holycowchx: i don't know what udf is or what to do with it, sorry09:13
dolemite01i get an error: Failed to partition the selected disk09:14
Gun_Monkeybingo, got it working with my ftp server09:14
Gun_Monkeythanks holycow09:14
holycowdolemite01: it looks like its not seeing your windows partitions maybe ... i don't know09:14
holycowGun_Monkey: no problem dude, remember in kde every single app has access to every single network connection type through kparts09:14
holycowGun_Monkey: so on kde, there is no need for an ftp client09:15
Gun_MonkeyI shall do that09:15
Gun_MonkeyI honestly like kubuntu far more than windows09:15
holycowkonqueror can ftp back and forth all you want09:15
holycowinfact09:15
krautmoin09:15
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holycowlet me give you a hing09:15
holycowctrl / shift / l  and ctrl / shift / t09:15
holycowyou can use those to split up konquereor windows09:15
holycowin each window you can connect to a different network space09:16
holycowin one you can do ftp for example09:16
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holycowin another you can connect to an ssh account09:16
holycowin andother you can connect to a samba share09:16
holycowand you can move files back and forth however you want between those09:16
holycowwelcome to the dark side09:16
holycowyou have great power at your fingertips09:16
Gun_Monkeyheh09:17
Gun_Monkeythanks09:17
Gun_Monkeydoes ctl-shift-t close the extra windows?09:17
holycowno09:17
holycowit splits the window horizontally09:17
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holycowwhile the other one splits it vertically09:17
Gun_Monkeyah, I see09:18
holycowthe point of that tutorial was to get you to think about universal access to any random network component09:18
holycowinstead of the garbage windows idea that you need an ftp client and you cant move files between ftp and ssh for example09:18
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Gun_Monkeyhmm09:18
adeniciowhy do adept crash everytime when it's about to instal paque?09:19
Gun_MonkeyI need to spend a lot more time with this09:19
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holycowadenicio: kde apps are VERY VERY crashy09:20
holycowall of them09:20
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holycowi would recommend installing and upgrading via command line if your is that unstable09:20
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adenicioholycow: so how do i know if it install or not.it makin me wast time installin things for nothing09:21
holycowif it crashes you don't know09:21
holycowinstall via command line09:21
pagadenicio, apt-cache policy packagename  tells if the package is installed or not09:22
holycowpag: ah good point forgot about that09:22
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holycowGun_Monkey: also, konqueror happens to be a web  browser09:25
holycowlol09:25
holycowits really a swiss army knife09:25
holycowits one of the most amazing tools i've run into09:26
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celesteanyone awake?09:30
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holycowlots of people entering and leaving09:32
celesteI'm trrying to dl amsn any ideas on how i would go about installing the tar.gz?09:32
celesteI'm newber that n00b09:32
holycowthis is the most bizarre channel traffic i've ever seen09:32
holycowceleste: why download it?09:32
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holycowkubuntu and ubuntu have all the software you will need in a central repository09:32
holycowkill your download and delete that file09:33
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holycowceleste looking for rest of information09:34
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pag!info amsn09:35
ubotuamsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.96+dfsg1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 2488 kB, installed size 9108 kB09:35
holycowceleste: you probably don't want to use amsn09:35
holycowits not a very good client09:35
pagceleste, enable universe (if it isn't already enabled) and type " sudo apt-get install amsn " into the konsole09:35
holycowyou should try installing gaim, it does gtalk, msn, aim and lots of other networks09:35
holycowi would instead try using adept package manager instead and install gaim, much much better client09:36
pagholycow, you're right, but it's one of the very few in which ie. file transfer work09:36
holycow*nod*09:36
pagholycow, Kopete rocks \,,/  ;)09:36
holycowoh haven't tried that yet, yes try kopete as well too09:37
holycowpag: good point :)09:37
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holycowsorry i come from gnome very recently i haven't learned all th ekde apps09:37
holycow:)09:37
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pagceleste, I'd personally reccomend you KMess if you need only msn, KMess has pretty much everything needed for average user, and it's a KDE app, so it also looks far nicer than amsn09:38
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lorololhi09:38
lorololwhy XINE konqueror plug-in isn't working?09:38
lorololjust axing09:38
lorololmplayer works fine09:38
lorololI'd like EVERYTHING to work flawlessly09:39
holycowaxing?09:39
holycowyou mean asking09:39
combo- if i made something wrong in xorg.conf (i wanted to install AIGLX) and i backed it up how can i restore it ? kubuntu doesn't work - there is only black screen ... ?09:39
holycowi don't think anyone here knows what axing is09:39
lorololax is ghetto style09:39
pagcombo, ctrl+alt+f1  gets you to a console09:39
lorololor aks09:39
lorololaksing09:39
holycowcombo: there is some odd stuff happening with kdm, i had to switch to gdm to resolve those issues09:39
holycowcombo: not sure what that is.  with kdm still installed i had to reboot to get the login form once again09:40
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lorololso anybody know why Xine isn't working as a plugin?09:40
lorololwhy is then listed in Konqueror if isn't working?09:40
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holycowlorolol: flawlessly is a mighty high standard09:40
combook, i think i'm gonna make it ;) thanks a lot ^^09:40
lorololthat makes no sense09:40
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holycowlorolol: why don't you ask the xine plugin developers instead of bothering us with esoteric nonsense?09:41
lorololholycow: mplayer works09:41
holycowwhy are you using xine anyway?09:41
holycowmplayer is better09:41
pagcombo, log in from there, type  "sudo apt-get install irssi" and come that way to chat with us  or if you know exact locations, then  sudo cp /path/to/backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf  should also work09:41
lorololwhy shan't Xine?09:41
holycowbecause we don't support xine, kapish?09:41
holycowwe support installing ubuntu and minor user issues09:42
holycowthat is a question for the xine developers09:42
holycowask them09:42
holycowi appreciate you want perfection, that would be great, you are just asking the wrong people, thats all09:42
combopag, oh no, no! i've just modded xorg.conf, and i'm doing startX now. but last time when i made it i had to have a format of hdd :D09:42
combopag, so i'm asking you guys for the future what to do, how to fix it :D09:42
holycowcombo: well i removed kdm and installed gdm09:43
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pagcombo, oh.. so as I said.. copy the backup over the original, and you'll be fine :)09:43
comboand the future is just now :) see ya soon  - CTRL+ALT+BCKSPC :)09:43
holycowi haven't had time to look into a kdm specific fix09:43
george2002http://www.fotozone.es/foto/31,2007/fotozone_103074.jpg venezuela09:43
combopag, i 've just coppied :)09:43
pagholycow, why? :O  KDM works just fine  (in fact, better than GDM)09:43
holycowpag: you can't restart it09:44
holycowit just hangs and does some absolutely bizarre stuff09:44
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holycowi was actually dissapointed, i haven't been happy with gdm at all09:45
lorololholycow: that's a not a preofessionl attitude. Should be, "we apologize for the incovenince and thanks for bring that up we will forward the issue with Xine as soon as possble to the proper department and ensure that WILL WORK FLAWLESSLY with the fine Kubuntu distro. We will notify you of the progress." Your answer sounds of a mediocre person that's content with a borken system, just like m$$$09:45
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holycowlorolol: you are welcome to ask for a refund09:46
holycowthis is a community not a business09:46
holycowno one here gets paid09:46
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holycowthus its much more productive to expect speaking to a human than a customer service robot monkey09:46
holycowand frankly i owe you nothing09:46
lorololholycow: that doesn't mean stuff should be borked. The community should strife for the best09:46
holycowlorolol: what do you expect me to do about it?09:47
holycowif you want to pay me, i would be happy to put on the happy customer service monkey face that peretends to care09:47
holycowhowever this is a community, you are right it should work09:47
lorololdon't know09:47
holycowas part of the community it is now part of your responsibility to track down the dev team and use their communication protocol to let them know there is an issue09:48
Gun_Monkeyinternet radio isn't as good as it used to be09:48
holycowlorolol: i only sound like a jerk because windows users are trained that 'customers are always right'09:48
lorololtrue09:48
holycoweven when they didn't pay for anything09:48
holycowit just rubs me the wrong way thats all, my appologies09:48
holycowi really should of just said this is the wrong channel for that issue, while it should be taken care of and i agree09:49
pagholycow, no one expects *you* to do anything about it - you still shouldn't say "we don't support $unworkingThing"  since we support pretty much everything related to (k)ubuntu...09:49
dolemite01well on one hand ubuntu/kubuntu attempts to tout itself as the david against the MS Goliath, so when people find its flaws it merely allows them to back the Goliath who almost always wins, otherwise when it didn't, why would they have put it in the bible?09:49
holycowpag: i will deffer to that, i'm learning the protocols09:49
holycowlorolol: i stand corrected09:49
lorololisn't Xine Amaroks main engine?09:49
Gun_Monkeygotta restart09:50
lorololxine=Amarok=qt=kde=xine=Kaffeine=k3b09:50
lorololmm... is not that they are completely DETACHED thigns09:50
lorololthings09:50
holycowdolemite01: i really don't think we should position our self as alternative to ms09:50
paglorolol, amarok uses xine - yes.09:50
dolemite01lorolol might i suggest $ sudo apt-get install vista thx09:50
lorololthat's mainly WHY I found it strange09:50
lorololthat's all09:50
holycowi think we  have our own strengths and weaknesses09:50
lorololdidn't mean to bitch09:51
holycowour greatest strength is FREEDOM and i thin kthat is what we should be selling09:51
lorololactually what I do, whenever someone comes to me for assitance. The first thing I do is wipe out m$$ XP without axing.09:52
lorololThat's my policy09:52
holycowlorolol: no problem :) you mean well09:52
holycowlorolol: do me a favour hawever, stop typing axing09:52
lorololif they don't like it go to Best Buy pay $300 for configuring your shitty McAffe firewall09:52
holycowdo you reinstall winxp or install linux?09:52
lorolollinux09:53
holycowlorolol: actually you are correct about that09:53
lorololI wipe out XP and put linux09:53
holycowits cheaper to buy a new win box at wallmart than to have it professionally reinstalled09:53
lorololalthough recalcitrant in the beggining they actually end up liking it09:53
holycowto do it right takes about 4 hours if you are lucky in terms of transferring all their data and have all the software cds to install09:53
dolemite01whats that supposed to say reluctant?09:54
dolemite01if so you f'd that word up all to hell09:54
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lorololdolemite01: actually recalcitrant cause they m$$ XP attachment/brainwashing annoys me the hell out of me09:55
holycowlorolol: although its probably a bit rude to wipe out their xp and install linux09:55
lorololalthough I don't start ranting about, I remain pretty calm09:55
dolemite01new rule: you can't use big words then mispell a small word next to it09:55
holycowlol09:55
combopag, thanks the Lord that u told me to use CTRL+ALT+F1... else i had to have a HDD format again :] 09:55
lorololI know is rude, too bad :-D09:55
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holycowdolemite01: haha09:55
posingaspopularhow do i get the sound/volume icon back to where it was before09:56
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dolemite01i suppose if you were a mechanic and one had a person who forgot to change their oil in the BMW, you'd force them to drive away in a taurus?09:56
lorololholycow: besides believe it or not many if not all EXPECT YOU to find a freaking pirated copy of XP09:56
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lorololthat's what gets me09:56
posingaspopular? in kubuntu fesity, there used to be a volume knob next to the clock, and now i can't find it or figureout how to put it back09:56
holycowadd the system tray to your panel, or move system tray to right position09:56
lorololand I am supposed to brake a leg find all the drivers, locate a pirated copy and so and so?09:56
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pagposingaspopular, add applet to the panel -> sound mixer (or something like that)09:57
holycowlorolol: ah if its pirated yeah, there mgiht be something to that idea09:57
holycowyou don't have a choice then09:57
holycowyou haveto refuse to install even if they provide the cd09:57
pag!offtopic | holycow, lorolol09:57
ubotuholycow, lorolol: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!09:57
holycowtrue true sorry09:57
lorololby the way I have no qualms about using pirated m$$ XP :-DDD. In fact is the only way I would use XP at all09:58
holycowi refuse to pay them a dime my self but i don't use their stuff09:58
posingaspopularwhoa that messed up somehow09:58
lorololI APOLOGIZE!!! PLEASE DON'T KICKE ME!!09:58
holycowoh wait offtopic haha got me09:58
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combopag, can u examine what is wrong with my XORG.xonf ?! (ATI Radeon 9600)   http://wklej.org/id/19b1899847   i had to restored my previous file... r u acquainted with xy ? :)09:58
dolemite01so if the Kubuntu doesnt find the windows install during the guided setup, what are my options09:58
dolemite01QTParedit finds it, i might just resize windows partition with that and let kubuntu find the free space, see what happens09:59
dolemite01would that be best case?09:59
lorololdolemite01: forget about XP??09:59
holycowyes it would dolemite0109:59
pagcombo, sorry... could you rephrase the last part of your sentece, I didn't understand it09:59
posingaspopularthat's the right one, but it looks horrible09:59
lorololany tricks that I am forgetting about full fledge K installation?09:59
dolemite01dude seriously, its ok to not like xp, but trying to make ppl converts isnt cool either09:59
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lorololoh I know I have a problem with audacity09:59
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dolemite01i have to use XP for school, OneNote has no equivalent in linux, and some testing software is windows only, just how it is10:00
lorololit says that it doesn't have an output device10:00
lorololdolemite01: I enjoy it10:00
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combopag, it meaned something like 'do you know how to change xorg.conf so it can works' ? :)10:00
pagcombo, umm... Does ati support aixgl?  I've heard their closed driver doesn't, do you happen to know about OS?10:01
combopag, - and also AIGLX work10:01
pagcombo, so now X doesn't launch at all?10:01
combolast month when i had Ubuntu AIGLX (with Beryl) works very well10:01
combopag, yes10:02
combopag, now i changed OS on Kubuntu, and i can't fix it10:02
pagcombo, does it give any errors?10:02
posingaspopulargot it. thanks pag10:02
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dolemite01qtparted is saying drive has one bad sector, so it wont resize :/ any idea what else i could use to resize it10:03
combopag, nope, only black screen and text cursor blinkink in the left corner10:03
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pagcombo, ok.. and does it start with "startx" command?10:03
comboi didn't tried10:03
lorololaudacity isn't working10:03
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combopag, i just pushed CTRL+ALT+F1 (as u told me) and restored backup file10:03
pagcombo, try, since it should give some errors10:03
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lorololany ideas?10:04
paglorolol, disable arts10:04
combopag, ok... brb10:04
combopag, oh... one more when i'm pushing CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE it doesn't work... :]  i have to reboot all the system10:04
combopag, it shows black screen with this text cursor and nothing works10:05
pagcombo, even after backspace ctrl+alt+f1 should work..10:05
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holycowcombo: try reinstalling kd maybe?10:05
combopag, after launchong console this way (CTRL+ALT+F1) ... let's see10:05
holycowkdm even10:05
lorololpag: where10:06
lorololso /dev/dsp output in audacity is ok?10:06
lorololwhere do I disable arts GLOBALLY?10:06
lorololis a poain the... to go app by app10:06
paglorolol, somewhere in the kcontrol10:06
pagsound & multimedia -> sound system -> take the tick from the box "enable Sound Sys."10:07
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paglorolol, remember, that you have to re-enable it after you're done with adacity10:08
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lorololpag: are you talking about Ubuntu or Kubuntu?10:10
lorololpag: I don't see Sound and Multimedia10:10
paglorolol, Kubuntu...10:11
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paglorolol, alt+f2 and type kcontrol10:11
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combopag: after STARTX in console it gives some text... a lot of text and the last 2 lines (i notified) is:   http://wklej.org/id/b3e0cf60a5   -it doens't work at all :/10:18
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fryStkcontrol ownz, very good control centre... only thing that makes me sad that i wont recognise my gameport/sidewinder10:20
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Simon_Losthi peeps10:20
frySthi10:21
pagcombo, sorry, I don't know what might be causing that problem10:21
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Gun_Monkeyanyone know a good streaming music station?>10:21
Simon_Losttalking about problems, I can't get feasty fawn to completely shut down a pc10:21
fryStGun_Monkey  i recommend u to try streamtuner10:22
Simon_Lostand not even login as root10:22
fryStnice tool and you can even record10:22
combopag, ok... but thanks anyway u were trying :)10:22
fryStSimon_Lost  that souns really weird, maybe try magicSysRQ?10:22
pagSimon_Lost, whenb you press the shutdown it gives you the black screen?10:23
Simon_Lostwhen I ask for a shutdown, I get to the Kubuntu screen with the empty bar10:23
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Simon_Lostand stays there10:23
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pagSimon_Lost, hmm... might be the same issue - try adding force=acpi  to kernel bootline and see if that helps10:24
Simon_Lostah yes about this10:24
Simon_LostI would gladly do it10:24
lorololhi10:24
Simon_Lostbut I could not access to root  accreditation10:25
lorololFirefox says NO-VIDEO when playing stream online!!! Both Konqueror and Opera work fine!!10:25
pagSimon_Lost, sudo ;)10:25
waylandbill!root10:25
Simon_LostI confess my noobness10:25
ubotudo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo10:25
pagSimon_Lost, so you'll need  kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst10:25
frySt..and if it still wont shutdown try alt+print+O10:26
Simon_LostI will try it right away10:26
doggwhat is a program i can get to convert wma's to mp310:26
Simon_Lostfunny thing is mylaptop does great, I am on it right now on kubuntu10:27
pagSimon_Lost, and btw; that you'll have to reboot before that 'fix' will take effect, so don't expact it to work as soon as you've added it10:27
Simon_Lostit's a customers' pc which gives me issues10:27
pagdogg, sounkonverter10:27
Simon_Lostokidokes10:27
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pagdogg, you'll also need lame and maybe w32codecs10:28
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doggwhere do i get those? synaptic?10:29
Gun_Monkeyheh, still practicing installations on linux10:29
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pagdogg, synaptic / adpet/ apt-get  you choose :)10:29
pagadept even10:30
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dakhrm10:30
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yotuxis there any way to fix this "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"10:30
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holycowhahahaha10:32
holycowyou assholes10:32
holycowyou got me with the ctrl / print / o10:32
holycowhehehe10:32
holycow:)10:32
holycowv v good10:32
holycowi dind't know about that10:32
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Simon_Lostmmm10:35
arun_i removed the taskbar from the panel, how do i add it back10:35
Simon_Lostmy kernel line already has acpi=off do I replace this or simply add at the end of the ine10:36
lorololmplayer Apple streams says (NO VIDEO) then it crashes10:36
lorololany ideas?10:36
Simon_Lostline10:36
pagarun_, right click on panel -> add applet -> taskbar10:36
arun_excellent, thanks pag10:37
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pagSimon_Lost, I don't know.. you'll have to try.. start with removing that line and see if it works then - if it doesn't try forcing acpi etc..10:37
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lorololthe same with OPERA only konqueror works with Apple Trailers10:38
lorololis this some sort of sabotage?10:38
fryStholycow  u arent ment to tryout everything :p10:39
holycowthat was trully funny, i completely wasn't expecting it to do that10:39
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fryStmagic sys rq is great if system hangs and wont let it shut down or smth .. send commands directly to the kernel10:39
arun_wow my entire panel looks sexy now10:39
bjwebbhi where is the home icon located10:40
arun_with transparency and everything10:40
holycowfrySt: is that what it does?10:40
bjwebbthe actual picture10:40
lorololoddly enough now mplayer internet plugin now is working with Xine instead of Mplayer10:40
holycowits such a bloody strange shortcut10:40
arun_but it seems to be pseudo-transparency.. which sucks.. any ideas?10:40
fryStafaik, im not an expert but i think i read this on wikipedia :>10:40
holycowfrySt: so if your system completely hangs that should get it10:40
fryStu can do alt+print+h and look in console to see what other options are avail.10:40
holycowi doubt it will work if the kernel has oopsed, kb won't be getting any input to the kernel10:40
doggim trying to use my bluetooth file transfer program on my friends cell phone but it wont locate his phone10:41
fryStstill i want to play sonic with my gamepad but it wont work :(10:42
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lorololok it's working now!!!10:42
lorololkewl10:42
lorolol:-)10:42
lorololHOTT!10:42
holycowfrySt: i orderdere one of these --> http://www.geekstuff4u.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=52110:43
holycowi'll be playing all of those on emulators10:43
fryStunfortunately i dont got that kind of money :( poor student10:44
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frySti dont even have TV set so i made roms from my old sega genesis games and now want to play them on linux10:45
frySteverything worked fine, except for the freaking gamepad10:45
fryStneither original genesis pad nor my old MS sidewinder10:45
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arun_how do i remove the frame around the kpf icon on the panel?10:46
fryStand I did everything i could think of and read every how-to that i found10:46
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arun_can i have the taskbar separate from the panel?10:49
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fryStarun_  u can and its not that hard to find10:54
fryStadd to panel.... external taskbar10:55
arun_frySt: i dont see an external taskbar10:55
arun_option10:55
arun_ahh add new panel, you mean10:56
arun_nice10:56
fryStjeah i ment :o10:56
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arun_i wish the panel had real transparency and not just pseudo transparency10:57
holycowkde4 should change a lot of that10:58
holycowkwin is supposed to have built in everything  beryl is going for10:58
arun_kde4 will have real transparency?10:58
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holycowwell kwin is recreating beryl/compiz10:58
holycowthus everything will inherit whatever it has10:58
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arun_and that will be without bugs? native effects and transparency?10:59
holycowwhen is kde ever without bugs?10:59
holycowif you have few hundred million lying around feel to donate to properly fund dev teams tho10:59
arun_i don't have any bugs right now11:00
arun_everything works nicely11:00
arun_brb11:01
holycowdumbass11:02
frySt:>11:03
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fryStmost important think how the panel looks11:03
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frySt-k+g11:03
celesteThanks you people are AWESOME11:04
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frySt^^11:04
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celestenow,  does anyone know of a messenger program for linux11:05
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doggmy Ktorrent crashed due to Signal 11, how do i fix that? i went to bugs.kde.org but it isn't helping me11:05
celestethat allows you to video chat?11:05
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frySti think kopete is able to do this but im not 100% sure :>11:07
fryStnewer owned a webcam :<11:07
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arunwhen i apply shadows to windows, the shadows apply to the bouncing icons as well (the ones that appear when you launch a program)11:09
arunis there anyway to disable the shadows for just the icons?11:09
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grizmdogg, here are the newest ktorrent packages; http://ktorrent.org/index.php?page=downloads11:10
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celestehow do i add terminal to my open with drop down menu in mozilla?11:11
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celestesorry "open with"11:11
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frySthm11:13
fryStwhat you mean by that?11:13
dogggrizm> can i use apt-get to install that11:13
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frySton the site, it says so11:14
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celestei mean11:14
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celestehow do I source terminal so it shows up where "archive manager" does?11:15
grizmdogg> no, you download the package, opena terminal and type; sudo dpkg -i ktorrent****11:15
celestein the drop down menu11:15
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frySti still dont get you, maybe its me, im a bit stupid sometimes hehehehe :(11:16
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fryStwhat drop down menu exactly?11:16
jerwarehi11:17
jerwarei have a problem with vlc.  it play all wmv files except for the cbt nuggets.11:17
frySthi there11:17
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frySti dont know what cbt nuggets are, but have you tried mplayer?11:17
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lorololhi11:17
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dogggrizm> it said "dpkg: error processing ktorrent (--install)"11:18
lorololin genereal for instance digikam-doc <--- are these docs for developers or for user as a manual?11:18
lorololthanks11:18
lorololI see that a lot11:18
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fryStdoc for users, -dev-doc and -dbg-doc is there too11:18
grizmdogg, did you download the correct package?11:18
doggmaybe not let me check11:19
lorololcan someone answer my question pelase?11:20
lorololI'd appreciate it11:20
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frySti tried to, maybe u overlooked it11:20
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Simon_Lostit's getting worse iiiiirk11:20
lorololfrySt: oh my bad11:20
lorololok thanks11:20
lorololfrySt:  so are those helpuful for n00b ppl?11:21
Simon_Lostif I change the "acpi=off" in the kernel line then I get a double blinking on my keyb at bootup and kubuntu won't load11:21
lorololwine is there more like for placebo effect right?11:21
frySt:>11:21
dogggrizm> ok i got it installed thanks11:21
fryStdepends, I personally almost never install them :>11:21
lorololsince everytime I ax here for help in installing those I am scared away about catching viruses and so on11:21
grizmno prob11:22
fryStbut most of the time they contain usefull info11:22
lorololbesides everything that wine runs is mad old11:22
fryStdepends on the software in question too11:22
fryStnot each piece is selfexplanatory..11:22
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lorololfrySt: I don't no stinky docs, prolly man pages sometimes11:22
frySt:>11:23
lorolol*need11:23
fryStright.. who needs help for gui tools11:23
frySt"apply: this button appies the current settings"11:23
frySt"close: this button terminates the application"11:24
frySti say: "OH, REALLY?!"11:24
lorololI made a rather stupid mistake I made a separate partition 1G for /var and 500MB for / . Now /tmp is inside / and I realize a lot multimedia apps use /tmp for processing HUGE amounts of data11:25
lorololand I only got free for /tmp like 200MB11:25
lorololhow can I mount /tmp inside /var?11:25
lorololsomething like this /var/tmp11:25
lorololthanks11:25
lorololeven /var with 1G doesn't look very good for like Video and Music processing11:26
grizmlorolol, many apps let you specify a tmp file11:26
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arunwhere can i install the tango icon set from11:28
adydasquick question, am i right in reading online you can get 2 x ide drives and use mdadm to do raid?11:28
lorololgrizm: ok11:28
lorololwhy audacity keeps complaining about no audio device found even though I set kcontrol to use ALSA?11:28
lorololplease help11:28
holycowadydas: yes11:28
lorololI am sick of this11:28
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grizmlorolol, you have to stop the artsd server for audacity11:29
lorolollorolol: but I don't have that as default11:29
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grizmit probably stiull runs as a daemon11:29
jerwaremplayer gives an error saying "Error selecting video output device"11:30
jerwaredoesent it work out of the box?11:30
grizmlorolol, first try "killall artsd" in a terminal before starting audacity11:31
MouseballAnyone have an article on how to install winrar? i can't find it in the lists on adept11:31
arunanyone here using the tango icon theme?11:31
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Ace2016HI all11:31
arunHey Ace201611:32
Simon_Lostdang it, this is not working11:32
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Ace2016how do i read from a UDF disk?11:32
lorololgrizm: ok I did it. But how do I remove farts for good?11:32
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lorololgrizm: still same error11:33
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grizmlorolol, http://www-users.york.ac.uk/~raa110/audacity/linux.html#alsa11:34
lorololgrizm: thanks11:35
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grizmlorolol, some more tips; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Audacity11:37
combohow can i install JRE on firefox ?  i downloaded *.bin file extracted it and what now? how can i do 'ln -s'? (i have Kubuntu 7.04 amd64)11:37
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lorololfusking retarded, how the hell is audacity still using OSS. I mean cmon is not that there is shortage of ALSA coding out there11:38
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grizm:-)11:39
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lorolol!fonts11:44
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer11:44
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Mouseball!winrar11:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about winrar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:46
lorololMouseball: it's unrar11:47
arunwhere will the icon themes i've installed be located?11:47
lorolol!restricted11:48
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:48
frySt/usr/share/icons/ or /pixmaps11:48
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Novellanyone know how I can limit what commands a user can run with kdesu ? It doesn't honor the ones defined in /etc/sudoers, had to add kdesu_stub for it to even work at all11:53
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Gun_Monkeytime for sleep11:53
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Simon_Losthmmm question11:55
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Simon_Lostare mkv and ogm vids functionning on kubuntu11:56
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dvmi have download the dsl-n. How can i install it on USB drive? Please refer me some URLs11:56
fryStprolly the dsl-n homepage?11:58
Mouseballsorry if someone answered already, got disconnected. Is there an equivalent to windows process explorer?11:58
fryStand if it works the way dsl does its more than easy.. just boot the live cd and use the install to usb stick option11:58
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lorololthere is a package that isn't xine-extracodecs but under another name... I forgot, can someone help me out here?11:59
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lorololgot it12:01
lorololubuntu-restricted-extras12:01
lorololok am I forgetgin anything else in terms of codecs and restricted formats?12:03
lorololwhat are quicktime codecs?12:03
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fryStapple quicktime .mov12:04
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fryStalmost as stupid as /wmv or .rm12:04
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lorololI know that, I mean what package has them12:05
fryStmplayer plays them for me12:05
Simon_Lostok I'll have to try12:06
lemacsAny ZFS filesystem user here?12:06
fryStah12:07
fryStthe package u need is w32codecs12:07
fryStbut be aware that it is not legal everywhere to install it12:08
fryStthats also why they are not installed out of the box12:08
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Scorpaeni need help with GRUB install, please12:15
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Scorpaenmy root drive is on a promise ultra133tx2 so it shows up as /dev/sda312:15
Scorpaeni need some advice12:16
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Scorpaeni am using a custom built kernel, stripped down for size12:16
Scorpaenon GG a312:16
Scorpaenanyone awake?12:17
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jtrzsda312:20
jtrzand grub12:20
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NiceGuyUKanyone know the correct mount comand line to mount my ntfs drive as RW ?12:24
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NiceGuyUK!ntfs12:30
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse12:30
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marckie!envy12:34
ubotuenvy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!12:34
arunwhat's wrong with audacity12:35
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pagarun, it's ugly.. no other problems I can recall12:35
marckiehas anybody installed envy?12:36
marckiei wanna install nvidia driver but am hesitant with envy12:36
marckieit says here that it crashes pc12:36
marckie!envy12:36
ubotuenvy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!12:36
pagmarckie, install the driver official way?12:37
arunpag: yeah, it's ugly :)12:38
arunwould anyone be able to tell me that when you right click a .deb file and select install package, which font appears in the resulting installer window12:38
aruni love it12:38
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incorrectis there a qt based ldap browser?12:41
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Lynourearun: there was some font site that would detect the font based on a screenshot...12:41
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arundoesnt seem to be installed on my computer12:46
nicolai_marckie: If you need an easy way to install the nvidia driver I suggest using KDE's own method12:47
arunfrostwire doesnt run for me.. any suggestions?12:48
marckienicolai: well I guess you're right12:48
pagarun, you have java?12:48
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arunpag: i'm assuming i do, since i can run azureus12:48
marckieno one else knows Kubuntu but Kubuntu... right?12:48
pag!frostwire | arun12:48
ubotuarun: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire12:48
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nicolas_Hi, I've got a Davicom Semiconductor 21x4x DEC-Tulip compatible 10/100 Ethernet pci card but it doesn't work. I've googled and all I found was old info about the tulip and dmfe modules (they all said to unload tulip and load dmfe, but that was fixed in dapper).12:49
nicolas_How do I get it to work?12:49
nicolai_marckie: First install nvidia-glx, then go to system settings -> monitor and display -> hardware -> admin -> configure -> proprietary12:50
arunpag: i tried the solution mentioned there, but i dont get any alternatives with 'sun' in them12:50
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pagnicolas_, hmm maybe " sudo modprobe -r tulip && sudo modprobe dmfe "12:52
pagarun, so install sun-java6-jre12:52
nicolas_pag tulip isn't loaded, dmfe is12:52
arunpag: i tried, it says doesnt exist12:52
aruni have multiverse enabled12:52
pagnicolas_, oh.. hmm... try the other way around? :P12:52
pagarun, are you running 64bit?12:53
arun32bit12:53
nicolas_pag: already did, it's worse, it doesn't even detect there's a net card12:53
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pagarun, does " apt-cache searct sun-java " output anything?12:53
arun it says 'frostwire - a truly free and open source...'12:54
pagnicolas_, ok.. so doesn't it work at all, or just some specific programm (ie. konq. has caused problems due the knetworkmanager)12:55
nicolas_pag: doesn12:55
nicolas_pag: doesn't work at all12:55
nicolai_marckie: did it work?12:55
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arunis frostwire worth downloading? as in, does it work well?12:57
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pagnicolas_, ok.. try; " sudo rmmod tulip; sudo rmmod dmfe; sudo modprobe dmfe; sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart "12:59
marckienicolai: sorry for the delayed reply... well im still configuring everything01:01
marckieI will be posting updates if all will be good...01:01
marckiethanks!01:01
nicolas_pag: it doesn't an IP01:01
nicolas_pag: I know the rest of the network is okay because in win dhcp worked01:02
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nicolas_pag: and the other pc has linux and runs okay, so the router is okay01:02
nicolas_pag: it doesn't get an IP01:04
pagnicolas_, ok.. sorry, but I'm out of ideas.01:04
nicolas_pag: thanks for your help01:05
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nicolas_pag: I found out... the network admin had a MAC filter...Sorry for all the trouble. Gonna kill him >(01:07
pagnicolas_, np :)01:08
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Nahihello01:08
Nahican someone help me in a laptop battery monitoring problem ?01:08
frySthi, i wonder if its possible to check wheter my soundcards gameport is broken01:09
maverick_anyone knows about this issue, how can i disable fsck 1.40-wip from starting on boot?!01:09
arunHey Nahi01:09
Nahihello arun01:09
arunNahi: what laptop battery monitoring problem01:09
Nahii have a problem when i unplug my laptop my battery monitor keeps showing its charging and when its not doing that its take a lot of time to tell me switching to battery mode or to ac mode like 3 -6 mins01:10
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pagmaverick_, you want to disable it totally or just not to check your HDs?01:10
arunwhich laptop do you have?01:10
Nahii have hp compaq nx900001:10
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Nahii've unplug it for 5 mins now and it still showing its plugged in01:12
maverick_pag: not to check my HDs01:12
pagmaverick_, iirc you can disable it in fstab...01:12
pagmaverick_, probably the last number of the line should be changed to 001:13
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maverick_pag: any idea how to edit the fstab file?!\01:14
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pagmaverick_, kdesu kate /etc/fstab01:14
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maverick_thank you01:14
maverick_pag: thank you01:14
GentineShit, jews.01:14
pagmaverick_, I'm not sure it it works, so don't thank me before it does ;)01:14
arunFor some reason i can't type anything into the frostwire search boxes01:15
pag!language | Gentine01:15
ubotuGentine: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.01:15
arunif i type something it doesnt show01:15
arunbut the cursor blinks01:15
arunwhy is that01:15
Nahihello:  i have a problem when i unplug my laptop my battery monitor keeps showing its charging and when its not doing that its take a lot of time to tell me switching to battery mode or to ac mode like 3 -6 mins01:15
maverick_pag: i'll restart now and see...brb01:15
Gentineubuntu.01:16
GentineUbun201:16
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maverick_pag: thx, it worked.01:20
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Nahihello:  i have a problem when i unplug my laptop my battery monitor keeps showing its charging and when its not doing that its take a lot of time to tell me switching to battery mode or to ac mode like 3 -6 mins01:23
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icefoxWould it be possible to get the iceweasle packages in kubuntu?01:28
Ragolhas anyone else tried burning cds/dvds with current lenovo desktop models?01:28
RagolI can't use their internal drive, but an external usb-burner works fine01:29
icefoxI mean do I just have to find a dev to maintain the package or is does kubuntu not allow some packages?01:29
arunNahi: the power monitor seems to be a bit faulty in some laptops01:29
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pagicefox, you can always start maintaining them yourself - they might even be accepted to Universe :)01:29
Nahiarun; but when i reboot its runs okay for the next few days then this starts to happen01:30
icefoxUniverse?01:30
pagicefox, community OS repo01:30
icefoxdebian already has the packages so it might be as simple as pulling it down to kubuntu01:30
RagolI think it's somehow related to the fact, the the cd/dvd-burner is not a ide model anymore, it's using sata...01:30
Ragolany ideas?01:30
Ragolor should I just file a bug report with enough information?01:31
Nahi!seen *!*@auh-b13734.alshamil.net.ae01:31
pagicefox, true... you can discuss packaging and related stuff on #ubuntu-motu01:31
icefoxok, thanks01:31
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Nahiwould anyone offer me some information please01:34
Nahii cant find anything on the forum about this issue01:34
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pagNahi, I'd love to, but unfortunatly I have no experience in laptops what-so-ever. try asking again in a few hours and maybe someone knows the answer :)01:36
Nahiokay thank you:>01:36
Nahii dont want to reboot when i do it will be fixed but still it will be the same after few days01:37
Nahi;p01:37
Nahibox's uptime is:  06:37:23 up 7 days,  5:44,  1 user,  load average: 0.37, 0.67, 0.9201:38
Nahilast time it crashed cause of amarok :@01:38
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Ragolso, no one has any info about k3b with sata dvd/cd-burners?01:40
DallerCan anyone help me setting up a local printer?01:40
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Tursije tu nejaky cech co se vyzna ?01:41
DallerMy problem is that the "local printer" in system settings is greyed out... how can that be?01:41
pag!cz | Tursi01:42
ubotuTursi: esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.01:42
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Tursijo diky01:42
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[ifroog] se7en^Of^9, hi..01:53
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jerrylang leve linux02:02
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Nahilang leve o.O02:03
Nahiu mean long live ?02:03
Nahi;p02:03
jerryhehe, i tought it was a dutch channel02:03
nosrednaekimnah.... thats chinese for "die soon"02:03
nosrednaekim;)02:03
Nahilooooooooool02:04
Nahikonishiwa02:04
jerryhehe02:04
Nahithats japanese for how r u02:04
Nahiloool02:04
jerryi'm now a proud linux only user02:04
nosrednaekimkounwi!02:04
jerryfuck windows02:04
Nahijerry; hell yeh ;p02:04
Nahiwindows sux02:04
jerryi only use a virtual machine for photoshop :-)02:04
nosrednaekimwhich is nosrednaekim-oriental for "quit the crap"02:04
Nahiplus anyone seen vista?02:05
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nosrednaekimindeed I have.... its not all that bad.02:05
Nahiits a mixture of *nix/mac in one02:05
Nahibut it sux02:05
nosrednaekimin looks.02:05
Nahilol02:05
jerryvista sux also] 02:05
Nahiyeh02:05
jerryuser right damn crapy02:05
jerry*rights02:05
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Nahiall microsoft ever did was copy other people ideas02:06
NahiLOSERS02:06
jerrylinux ideas also02:06
jerrystupid fucks02:06
pagguys.. I'd like to remind you that this channel should be kept family fiendly - so watch your language please.02:06
Nahiyes02:06
jerryoke sorry02:06
Nahijerry; yeh no swearing dude02:06
dthacker! language | jerry02:06
ubotujerry: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:06
jerryblame me02:06
Nahianyways bill gates sux and microsoft does too ;p02:06
jerrythe package managment is  more powerfull than linux exe files02:07
[ifroog] Nahi, could you explain :D sounds interesting ..!!02:07
Nahiafter i saw vista im never using windows ever again02:07
jerryme 2 ;-)02:08
Nahifirst its a copy paste of mac and *nix02:08
Nahithen it took me 10 mins to connect to wireless network02:08
jerryi tought no vista for jerry,02:08
jerrypff02:08
jerrycrappy02:08
Nahiwould not lie and tell u its ugly the graphics are amazing but its all stolen and not originally invented02:08
jerrythe soundblaster live 5.1 is not support anymore02:08
jerryin linux it works great and it is a good audioplate :P02:09
Nahiyeh a lot of stuff isn't compatible02:09
fryStnow just tell me how to get gamepad going on oldass sb live! player 102402:09
frySt:)02:09
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fryStloaded all modules with sudo modprobe like the how-to said02:09
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fryStbut nothing worked.. there simply are no /dev/js or /dev/input/js nodes createda02:10
jerryi dont use the gameport02:10
fryStand if i try to make them myself it says no device found02:10
frySti have to use it02:10
jerrydo you game in linux?02:10
fryStyeah :>02:10
runleveltenGod yeah02:10
jerryi game Ut200402:10
fryStme quakeworld and q3a02:11
jerrynice02:11
fryStand oldass sega roms02:11
fryStbut it sux without the gamepad02:11
jerrymy feeling in linux is that everything is smoother02:11
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jerrywindows lags verry much when you install crappy software02:11
frySt.i.e. ms updates02:11
jerryhehe al the articles on internet sometimes, windows crashes by microsoft updater ***lollll02:12
fryStupdate should be renamed into spyware-installer02:12
frySt:>02:12
jerrymicrosoft-lag-installer02:13
Nahilol02:13
frySthehe ure dutch, with that @home cable02:13
runleveltenarrrrrrgggg.02:13
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jerrypayed-crap-installer02:13
fryStused to have that too, until recently when i moved to aachen02:13
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jerryhow do you mean @home cable? no problem with that02:13
runleveltenAnyone found pylint+eric3 broken in feisty?02:13
fryStme neither02:13
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pag!offtopic | jerry, frySt02:14
ubotujerry, frySt: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!02:14
fryStrox, very fast but u can see user-id in ip02:14
fryStthat sux.02:14
fryStbut i dont have it anymore because i moved to germany02:14
frySthee02:14
marckiewhats up?02:15
marckiewhat's better?02:15
marckiesynaptic or adept?02:15
marckiei like both...02:15
frySt6 hours solid waste in trying to fix that gamepad/joystick under linux, THATS up02:15
jerryim off, bye people02:15
fryStgoede middach02:15
jerrysome 2 you02:15
marckiehaha...02:16
runlevelten!better | marckie02:16
ubotumarckie: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.02:16
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pagmarckie, synaptic has more options than adept iirc... apt is best (imho) :)02:16
marckieyeah i guess so...02:16
runleveltenI think synaptic is a lot better than adept - nicer interface, more stable.02:16
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marckiei also use apt when im in a hurry..02:16
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runleveltenI also think it should be standard in kubuntu.02:17
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marckiemmmm...02:17
nosrednaekimno, Adept IS better.02:18
nosrednaekimbut synaptic is a little easier to sue02:18
nosrednaekim*use02:18
fryStapt-get moo02:18
frySt;)02:18
marckiedoes anybody used the compiz fusion with the aquarium thinggy?02:19
marckiehaha...02:19
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pagaptitude moo  is funnier :)02:19
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nosrednaekimmarckie: haha heard about that.... i'm waiting until compiz fusion is stable...02:20
nosrednaekimdid you see the paper airplane plugin?02:20
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DallerHow do I move kmails accounts to a new computer?02:21
nick_02:22
marckienosrednaekim: well i really wanted to try it out...02:22
nosrednaekimkmail's settings and mail is stored in ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail02:22
DallerI moved the entire directory to the new computer, but the passwords seems to be lost!02:23
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marckieLinux is so... great i cant wait...02:23
frySt'>02:23
DallerThe passwords are NOT saved in kwallet, by the way!02:23
fryStit can be a pita too02:23
fryStbut its certainly fun02:23
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pagDaller, ~/kde/share/config/kmailrc  maybe?02:24
marckieHello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player.02:25
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marckieI have that error in Firefox02:25
marckieI already installed the swf (flash player)02:25
pag!flash | marckie02:25
marckieCant watch flash in web02:25
ubotumarckie: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash02:25
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Dallerpag> thank you! - you just saved my day!02:26
pagnp :)02:26
yotuxcan anyone offer some help with this: bin/sh: Can't access tty;02:27
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DallerIs anyone familiar with the "greyed out"-issue in creating a printer in system settings?02:30
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DallerWhen I start the printer-wizard from system settings, I can't select "local printer" because it's greyed out...02:36
Daller...The printer is supported! (It runs fine on my old computer)02:36
DallerAny ideas?02:36
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pagDaller, not sure... maybe it requiers root-priveledges02:37
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DallerI've tried that also... not any better... Weird issue...02:38
DallerBut what may be that cause for this behaviour?02:39
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Daller...could it be that it doesn't recognize any printer on my usb/parallel ports?02:39
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Simon_Templarhi again02:40
Simon_Templarnot like I enjoy it but I need to open two ports02:40
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DallerThe printer is connected with a USB-Parallel converter (which I also checked on another machine!)02:40
Simon_Templarhow would I tell ubuntu to do this ?02:41
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tfreireI was able to build fop without hassle on my system. Now, I would liek to make a .deb package, and possibly contribute it to the ubuntu repositories. Can anyone point me on the right directions?02:41
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pag!packaging | tfreire02:42
ubotutfreire: The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports02:42
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tfreirethx02:44
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nhocahi02:48
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DallerProblem adding printer: When I start the printer-wizard from system settings, I can't select "local printer" because it's greyed out...02:48
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paghello nhoca :)02:48
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hatteri have an icon on the desktop that i cant delete, if i right click on it it says ~/home/user/Desktop/tsclient.desktop has an invalid menu entry    full.02:49
paghatter, try selecting it and pressing shift+del02:49
hatterpag, that did it , thx02:50
hatterdo u know why that error ?02:50
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paghatter, I have no idea :D it was just a lucky guess02:50
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Nahihello:  i have a problem when i unplug my laptop my battery monitor keeps showing its charging02:53
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nhocaNahi, try to wait a little bit. In my laptop sometimes it takes a bit to realise the battery has been unplugged02:54
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Nahinhoca; i wanted for 30 mins02:54
Nahiusually it shows directly02:54
Nahibut now its not02:54
nhocaoh...ok02:55
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nhocatry to reinstall the power manager02:55
DallerNahi: Is your battery recognized?02:55
Nahiyes02:55
Nahiit was working last night02:55
Nahinow its not02:55
DallerHmm... did you upgrade?02:56
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Nahiyes02:56
Nahifull upgrades02:56
geniiAaah upgrades02:56
DallerWell, and what version of *ubuntu?02:56
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DallerNahi: 6.06, 7.04 or 7.10 ?02:57
Nahi7.04 i guess02:58
Roeywhoah, weird02:58
RoeyI just read02:58
Nahiyes 7.0402:58
Nahi;p02:58
Roey<hai> full upgrades02:58
Roey<genii> Aaah upgrades02:58
Roey*<Nahi>02:58
Roeyas02:58
Nahiroot@sanctuary:~# lsb_release -a02:59
NahiNo LSB modules are available.02:59
NahiDistributor ID: Ubuntu02:59
NahiDescription:    Ubuntu 7.0402:59
NahiRelease:        7.0402:59
NahiCodename:       feisty02:59
Roey<genie> allah upgrades02:59
Roeyweird.02:59
Nahididn't know the have a new release thow02:59
DallerNahi: 7.04 upgrades are supposed to be stable... That's weird!02:59
Roeyb/c genii comes from djinn in arabic02:59
NahiDaller; well if i reboot it will work02:59
Roeyand full + aah  sort of sounds like allah.02:59
geniiRoey :)02:59
Nahithen after few days same problem02:59
DallerNew release every 6 months (if done)02:59
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DallerNahi: Was that a question?03:00
Roeygenii:  There should be a word for interesting misreadings from two or more independent chatters03:00
geniidist upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 is mostly painless but when from an earlier version if you try to shortcut it, causes some grief03:00
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Roeygenii:  will the upgrade to gutsy gibbon be seamless?03:00
Nahimy battery monitor keeps showing 100% even when unplugged03:00
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DallerSo it's periodic... Damn... It seems like a battery recognition issue...03:01
geniiRoey: Since 6.10 there is an upgrade manager so if not seamless then at least not excruciating03:01
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NahiDaller; no it was working for yesterday03:02
Dallergenii: apt-get dist-upgrade is the only way! - The GUI's are really buggy!03:02
Nahinow its not03:02
DallerNahi: But rebooting helped?03:02
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Nahiyes03:02
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DallerNahi: I have no idea...03:02
Nahiwhich i will not do cause i really want some background processes to stay running03:02
DallerNahi: please run "cat /proc/battery" (I'm not at a laptop, so I might be wrong!)03:03
Nahiroot@sanctuary:~# cat /proc/battery03:03
Nahicat: /proc/battery: No such file or directory03:03
DallerHmm... can you autocomplete?03:04
Nahisorry ?03:04
DallerWhen you write it, you can press "Tab" several times, to make it autocomplete...03:04
DallerTry autocompleting with "cat /proc/"03:05
Nahinothing related to battery03:05
Dallerchristen@christen-desktop:~$ cat /proc/Display all 162 possibilities? (y or n)03:05
Daller...and press "y" and post the output! (a lot)03:05
Nahiyes03:05
Nahii did that03:06
Nahinothing related to battery03:06
llutzNahi: /proc/acpi/battery03:06
Nahiroot@sanctuary:~# cat /proc/acpi/battery03:06
Nahicat: /proc/acpi/battery: Is a directory03:06
DallerIlutz: Thank you!03:06
DallerNahi: Autocomplete...03:06
Nahiokay03:07
Nahiinfo alarm state03:07
DallerNahi: state03:07
DallerNahi: or info...03:07
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DallerNahi: If this says 100% and "plugged in" the ACPI itself is bugged03:08
Nahipresent:                 yes03:08
Nahidesign capacity:         4400 mAh03:08
Nahilast full capacity:      2016 mAh03:08
Nahibattery technology:      rechargeable03:08
Nahidesign voltage:          14800 mV03:08
Nahidesign capacity warning: 300 mAh03:08
Nahidesign capacity low:     200 mAh03:08
Nahicapacity granularity 1:  32 mAh03:08
runlevelten!pastebin03:08
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:08
Nahicapacity granularity 2:  32 mAh03:08
Nahimodel number:            01KT03:08
Nahiserial number:           703:08
Nahibattery type:            LION03:08
NahiOEM info:                SMP-PA03:09
Nahioh sorry03:09
Nahilol03:09
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DallerNahi: Pretty old laptop?03:09
hatterhow do i make sure beryl starts on reboot ?03:09
Nahihttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31904/03:09
NahiDaller; no03:10
Nahiits hp compaq nx900003:10
DallerNahi: Your battery is less that 50% efficient!03:10
Nahiits 2.0M intel03:10
paghatter, ln -s /usr/bin/beryl-manager ~/.kde/Autostart  ?03:10
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DallerNahi: Was that the output from both /info and /state?03:10
stdinNahi: check if /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/ADP0/state exists03:10
Nahihttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31904/03:11
Nahicheck03:11
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Nahithe first one i pased here was info03:11
Nahithat one on pastebin is state03:11
Nahioc/acpi/ac_adapter/ADP0/state: No such file or directory03:11
DallerAnd it's plugged in?03:12
stdinNahi: anything in /proc/acpi/ac_adapter ?03:12
hatterpag, ah cool, i didnt know about the kde autostart03:12
Nahiroot@sanctuary:~# /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/ACAD/03:12
Nahibash: /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/ACAD/: is a directory03:12
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hatterpag, thx03:12
paghatter, np :)03:12
stdinNahi: put "ls /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/ADP0/state"03:13
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Nahiroot@sanctuary:~# ls /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/ADP0/state03:13
Nahils: /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/ADP0/state: No such file or directory03:13
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Roey<genii> Roey: Since 6.10 there is an upgrade manager so if not seamless then at least not excruciating03:13
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Roeyoh good03:13
RoeyThere is something that bothers me, though03:14
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DallerProblem adding printer: When I start the printer-wizard from system settings, I can't select "local printer" because it's greyed out...03:14
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stdinNahi: ok, "ls /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/" ?03:14
RoeyThe Qt-KDE style really clobbers xchat's tab highlighting03:14
Nahiroot@sanctuary:~# ls /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/03:14
NahiACAD03:14
RoeyAscendedDaniel:  interesting nick03:14
RoeyAscendedDaniel:  New to GNU/Linux?03:14
stdinNahi: ok, what about "cat /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/ACAD/state" ?03:15
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Nahiroot@sanctuary:~# cat /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/ACAD/state03:15
Nahistate:                   on-line03:15
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stdinNahi: is the AC plugged in?03:15
Nahiyes03:15
Nahii'll plug it out03:15
stdinNahi: see if the state changes after03:16
Nahistill showing on-line03:16
stdinwait a sec, and try again03:16
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Nahieven the icon keeps showing its plugged03:16
stdinstill saying "on-line" ?03:16
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Nahiyes03:17
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stdinhmm, seem that ACPI isn't working properly then03:17
Nahican i kill it and restart it ?03:17
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stdinno, it's not a service it's built in to the BIOS03:18
Nahioh03:18
Nahii dont want to reboot03:18
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Nahi:(03:18
stdinI doubt you could fix it03:18
Nahibut it was working before i dunno why its not now03:19
stdinhave you recently updated the kernel?03:19
Nahino03:19
Nahino kernel updates for 7.0403:19
Nahii updated iptables03:19
Nahifew days ago03:19
Nahii did full upgrades when i installed it03:19
Nahiand no kernel upgrades since then03:20
DallerNahi: Did you reboot at all since upgrade?03:20
Nahiyes i did03:20
Nahionly when i do kernel upgrades03:20
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Simon_LOstawright03:21
evandrocgceara03:22
Simon_LOst<i installed firestarted and specified it to let things thru  the 2 ports I want to use03:22
Simon_LOstbut still filetopia says no network03:22
Simon_LOstsuggestions very welcome x___x03:22
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stdinSimon_LOst: behind a router?03:23
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Simon_LOstyes but both ports open on that router too, I made sure about it03:24
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Simon_LOstbothudp and tcp, on the router03:24
stdinyou forwarded the ports to your internal IP?03:24
Simon_LOstto the machine's IP? yes03:25
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Simon_LOstbut in kubuntu how to set it so tcp and undp are opened on these ports I found no way03:25
stdinand firestarter will just confuse you, it's not really needed when you have a router03:25
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Simon_LOstwhat would you suggest to me ? :)03:26
stdinmake sure you have set the right ports to be forwarded, you don't have to do anything to "open" a port on kubuntu, it will open what ever ports it needs03:27
Simon_LOstwell... in my router they sure are forwarded03:28
Simon_LOstbut still I get told no network03:28
Simon_LOstonly with this app03:29
Simon_LOstFiletopia03:29
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stdinit's something to do with that app then, see if it has a FAQ or forum03:29
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Dr_WillisDid an install on this box and am getting an error 21 with grub.. How annoying.03:45
rouzicHi03:46
Dr_Willisgot an ide drive and a sata drive. Im thinking that the OS has them in one order,. and grub sees them in the other order.03:46
Dr_WillisHowdy03:46
rouzicDoes someone know which is the license of Kubuntu's logo?03:46
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pagrouzic, http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy03:47
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rouzicthanks pag :)03:47
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ninHerhi all03:49
paghi :)03:50
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Dr_Willisamazing how fast one can install Linux to a box. :)03:57
cloakableYus03:57
geniiDr_Willis: Too bad about the grub thing. I had lately to set the bios in compatability modse for the sata so it looks like an IDE tot he OS03:58
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geniibleh typos03:58
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Dr_Willisgenii: yea - not sure if its a grub config issue.. or if its a bios/pc issue. this is an older machine. one of the first that came out with IDE and sata. I cant recall ever hav ing it boot any os off the sata disk04:00
Dr_Willisi added a 250gb ide drive to it. :) got it booting from there. will use the 500gb sata as home i guess. :)04:00
Dr_Willis.75TB of storage . weee...04:00
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geniiDr_Willis: Even terabytes of space get chewed up fast nowadats, storing video etc etc ...04:01
Dr_WillisYep.04:01
genii*nowadays*04:01
guybrushhi04:02
Dr_Willispicked up  500gb hd's for $100 - that will keep me for a while04:02
geniiI need more coffee :)04:02
Dr_WillisMy / was a 30gb hd!04:02
Dr_Willisnow its a 250 :) plus added 500gb for /home04:02
Dr_Willisi can replace my huge stack of hd's for $100 which is nice.04:02
geniiYup04:02
Dr_Willisnow it will take me a week to move all the stuff over to the 500gb hd.04:02
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llutzare the 500s that slow? ;)04:03
Dr_Willisthe other drives are now on the network box. via USB04:03
Dr_Willisplus i need to take the time to sort all the junk and remove the duplicate stuff04:03
cloakableDr_Willis: What are you going to use a 250GB / for? My / is 20GB of a 40GB disk.04:04
guybrushi've got a problem with my msi us54se usb wlan stick. it should have a zd1211b chipset, which supposedly works without tinkering. however I can't cennct to my AP (with WPA2). I tried to configure wpa_supplicant, but it does work right04:04
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Dr_Willisit really sucks space whenyou accidently have 2  whole copies of a 60 eposide tv series.04:04
Dr_Williscloakable:04:04
Dr_WillisMythtv :)04:04
guybrush*doesn't*04:04
Dr_Willismy 40gb was full.. - the storage drive for mythtv was almost full04:04
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llutzif i remove all junk/duplicates i don't need even a 20gb hdd ...04:05
Dr_WillisNow the 40gb is going into an ide enclosure - for 'special' video storage. :)04:05
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knowledge25khello everibody04:06
Dr_Willishi04:06
knowledge25kcan anybody help me with some problem im having ?04:07
Dr_Willisdepends on the problem. :)04:08
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knowledge25ki keep reciving & error message,every time i try to download something04:10
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Dr_Willisdownload with what.. and whats the message (or summary of them)04:11
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trakinas!es04:12
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:12
knowledge25klike synaptic  temminal04:13
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knowledge25kr u still here04:14
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cloakableDr_Willis: Ahhh XD04:14
Dr_WillisIm right here.. you are not being very clear...04:14
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pagknowledge25k, what kind of errors?04:15
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trakinasdoes anyone here speak spanish? I just need help translating a song, not with ubuntu. :P04:15
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knowledge25kanything that i try to download i recive & error from synaptic04:16
NightBirdknowledge25k: what is the error?04:16
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geniitrakina Why not just use something like babelfish online translator?04:17
Dr_Willisso lets calrify this. 'you are trying to install new packages from synaptic, and you are unable to download the packages' ?04:17
knowledge25klike a sudo error04:17
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trakinasgenii: because I need it precisely. i know what the song means, but i need a good tanslation.04:17
pagknowledge25k, 'like a'? incorrect password or what?04:18
trakinaspart of the song makes no sense at all translated by those online tools and also it does not translate some words04:18
Dr_Willisknowledge25k:  you did run synaptic with 'sudo' or ksudo, or whatever its called.. 'gksu' ?04:18
Dr_Willis!kdesu04:18
ubotuIn KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo04:18
Dr_Williskdesu synaptic    - is the proper way to run synaptic04:18
pagknowledge25k, or something related to /var/lock ?04:18
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pawanhi04:19
pag!hi | pawan04:20
ubotupawan: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!04:20
knowledge25ki try tat everytihing. everything i try i recive & error message04:20
pagknowledge25k, what does the error say?04:21
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s0nixit's funny. "Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application>" ...... but 50% of time i want tu use kdesu...... the dialog for asking password did never show ..04:22
pags0nix, well that's a bug (pretty wellknown too iirc)04:23
knowledge25khello04:23
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[ifr0g] Can't find kernel build files in /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-386/build;04:24
s0nixis it that hard to fix ? ;P04:24
[ifr0g] what am i missing ??04:24
wilmanhey guys, i have a quickcam communicate but it is not detected bij my ubuntu edgy, i have installed the drivers etc but it just does'nt detect it, what to do?04:25
spawn57is that a really really really new webcam?04:25
knowledge25khi;04:26
knowledge25ki need help04:26
BluesKaj!ask04:27
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:27
BlindSides0nix: gksu never fails ;)04:28
DallerProblem setting up a printer: Local printer greyed out in printer-wizard!04:28
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s0nixBlindSide: ohh i know that :) ...... is this ok if i use gksudo under kde?04:30
BlindSideno idea04:30
BlindSidehaha04:30
BlindSide(ubuntu user)04:30
s0nix:P04:30
s0nixso, what r u doing here !!04:30
BlindSideim sure it will run if u install it however04:30
s0nixhehe, just kidding04:30
trakinass0nix: guess there isnt04:30
BluesKajuse kdesu in the command box04:30
BlindSidesince i am uisng konversation right now04:30
Dallers0nix: gksudo runs well under KDE04:31
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BlindSideyeah i wud think so04:31
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trakinasi use a lot of gtk based softwares.04:31
s0nixperfect04:31
trakinasnot a loooooooot, but many of my fav are gtk... hehe04:31
s0nixlike?04:31
s0nixim curious04:31
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DallerIs there a printer-guru present?04:32
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batchaasbonsoir a tous04:32
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Daller...I'm setting up a Dell Dimension C521, and the only issued remaining, is installing the printer...04:32
BluesKajwell, if you want to edit files such as sourceslist etc kdesu kate in the run command dialog box is thew way to go04:32
pag!fr | batchaas04:32
ubotubatchaas: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.04:32
s0nixbatchaas: #kubuntu-fr04:32
batchaasok04:33
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CaptainApathyhm..04:33
knowledge25kany body know what that mean?Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (104:33
trakinas!pastebin | knowledge25k04:34
ubotuknowledge25k: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:34
BluesKajknowledge25k:  what were you trying to install ?04:35
geniiDaller Exactly what make/model is the printer. Also does it do other things like scan, fax etc04:35
DallerIt's a HP Deskjet 5550 - and it runs flawlessly on another kubuntu machine... (same version)04:36
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Dallergenii: The option "local printer" is greyed out in the printer-wizard! - what can that mean?04:36
geniiDaller TCP type?04:36
Dallergenii: TCP type? - huh? - It's local parallel04:37
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Dr_WillisI got a little parralel port printer->network gizmo the other day. Turned my 10 yr old laser into a network laser! ;) handy04:37
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Dallergenii: I'm replacing an older pc with a Dell Dimension C521, and need to setup the printer on the new pc...04:40
Dallergenii: ...but it seems weird that it worked on the other pc, but not this...04:40
Dr_Willisperhaps an ecp/parallel port setting in the biox.04:41
Dallergenii: But is the "greyed out"-issue due to no printers recognized, or what may cause this behaviour?04:41
llutzDaller: check if cups is running04:41
Dallerllutz: it is!04:41
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llutzDaller: have you tried to add the printer in the cups-webfrontend?04:42
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DallerIt's running through a USB-parallel converter, which is also working (tested on the other machine)04:42
Dallerllutz: I can't select "local" there either...04:43
s0nixthe "Open with" with the checkbox REMEMBER application association is supposed to work? (video file)04:43
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DallerI can select these device-types:04:44
Daller<SELECT NAME="DEVICE_URI"><OPTION VALUE="socket" >AppSocket/HP JetDirect </OPTION><OPTION VALUE="beh" >Backend Error Handler </OPTION><OPTION VALUE="bluetooth" >Bluetooth printer </OPTION><OPTION VALUE="hpfax" >HP Fax (HPLIP) </OPTION><OPTION VALUE="hp" >HP Printer (HPLIP) </OPTION><OPTION VALUE="http" >Internet Printing Protocol (http) </OPTION><OPTION VALUE="ipp" >Internet Printing Protocol (ipp) </OPTION><OPTION VALUE="lpd" >LPD/LPR Hos04:44
DallerPrinter </OPTION><OPTION VALUE="smb" >Windows Printer via SAMBA </OPTION></SELECT>04:44
trakinas!pastebin | Daller04:45
ubotuDaller: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:45
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BluesKajDaller:  are you networked with the other pc ?04:45
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geniisorry for lag, work AFK04:46
DallerBluesKaj: No, and the other PC is about to be disconnected and removed from the house...04:46
DallerHere's the choices from cups: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31918/04:46
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awihi, all04:50
awiplease, help me with via 6410 raid04:51
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Dallerhttp://localhost:631 is inaccessible on the old machine... Can I check if cupsys is running?04:54
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jhutchinsDaller: Need to modprobe the parallel port driver.04:54
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Dallerjhutchins: Any ideas what module?04:55
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knowledge25kanybody know what that is?Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (104:55
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Dallerknowledge25k: can we have the rest of the error message?04:56
BluesKajDaller , since there no linux drivers available for the printer , using cups is the way to go ...it emulates the windows drivers and makes the printer work ASFAIK . I'm using an HP Deskjet 3520 on wife'w windows pc , as a networked printer thru cups04:57
knowledge25ki'm sorry.04:57
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knowledge25kdpkg: error processing texlive-lang-spanish (--configure):04:57
knowledge25k subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 104:57
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knowledge25kSetting up clvm (2.02.06-2ubuntu9) ...04:57
knowledge25kStarting Cluster LVM Daemon clvmd could not connect to cluster manager04:57
knowledge25kConsult syslog for more information04:57
knowledge25kinvoke-rc.d: initscript clvm, action "start" failed.04:57
knowledge25kdpkg: error processing clvm (--configure):04:57
knowledge25k subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 304:57
knowledge25kErrors were encountered while processing:04:57
knowledge25k texlive-lang-spanish04:57
knowledge25k clvm04:57
knowledge25kE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)04:57
jhutchinsDaller: parport_pc on this one (not ubuntu).04:58
BluesKajknowledge25k:  next time use pastebin04:58
jhutchins!pastebin | knowledge25k04:58
ubotuknowledge25k: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:58
Dallerjhutchins: Still greyed out...04:59
jhutchinsDaller: restart cups04:59
Dallerjhutchins: How? - i forgot the command!05:01
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jhutchins/etc/init.d/cupsd restart05:01
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Dallerchristen@christen-desktop:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/cupsd restartsudo: /etc/init.d/cupsd: command not found05:02
knowledge25ki keep reciving & error message every time i try to download from synaptic or the root terminal?can anibody help me?05:02
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Dallerknowledge25k: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51323005:03
BluesKajknowledge25k:  sudo dpkg --configure -a05:04
jhutchinsDaller: just cups then, not cupsd.  Use tab completion.05:04
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Dallerjhutchins: Still no local printer option!05:05
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knowledge25ki ready have adept manager.i sill recive error message from that to05:06
jhutchinsDaller: So is this thing a usb printer connected via a parallel port adapter, or a parallel port printer connected via a USB adapter?05:06
Dallerjhutchins: To start at the beginning, can I test if the virtual parallel-port has been setup correctly?05:06
BluesKajknowledge25k:  is adept open open ?05:06
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knowledge25kwhat do you mean05:07
Dallerjhutchins: Parallel-printer connected to a usb-port (dimension c521 has no parallel port)05:07
BluesKajknowledge25k:  if it is open close it ..then run in the konsole : sudo dpkg --configure -a05:07
knowledge25ki still recive & error05:09
Dallerknowledge25k: have you ran: "sudo apt-get -f install" ???05:10
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jhutchinsDaller: Ok, you're going to have to figure out what the USB subsystem should load when the adapter is connected and get that working then.05:11
BluesKajok, knowledge25k ,try this, : sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a , then relogin to the desktop05:11
knowledge25kyes it say command-not-found: error: no such option: -f05:11
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mileswamp wamp05:11
DallerThe weird thing is that I have a similar setup running on another dimension c521 at work... 7.04, same adapter, etc...05:11
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BluesKajI suspect that damn adept notifier is doing it's damage again05:12
milessynaptic > adept05:12
Dallerknowledge25k: Try "sudo aptitude -f install"05:12
knowledge25kproduce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more'05:12
BluesKajknowledge25k:  do you have synaptic ?05:13
Dallerjhutchins: [20605.704000]  drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 18 if 0 alt 1 proto 2 vid 0x067B pid 0x230505:13
knowledge25kyes05:13
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BluesKajopen synaptic, edit/fix broken packages/apply05:14
Dallerknowledge25k: Is it working now?05:14
Dallerjhutchins_lt: [20605.704000]  drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 18 if 0 alt 1 proto 2 vid 0x067B pid 0x230505:15
Dallerjhutchins_lt: ...from dmesg, and lsusb: Bus 002 Device 018: ID 067b:2305 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2305 Parallel Port ... everything seems to work...05:16
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jhutchins_ltDaller: Except cups.05:17
jhutchins_ltTry just setting it up as an lp.05:17
knowledge25khow do i know if it work or not?05:17
Dallerknowledge25k: try installing something!05:18
Dr_Willis:005:18
Dallerjhutchins_lt: Wow... how do I do that?05:18
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Dallerjhutchins_lt: "LPD/LPR Host or Printer" ?05:19
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knowledge25ktexlive-lang-spanish: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 105:20
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pagknowledge25k, that package is causing problems - I'd remove it.05:21
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Dallerjhutchins_lt: /dev/lp0 doesn't exist... isn't that bad?05:25
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knowledge25khow do i rmove it05:26
knowledge25ki'm having problem removing it05:27
PhinnFortwtf isn't KDM configured properly by default in Kubuntu?05:27
milesI am running xubuntu, i just apt-got konqueror, does anyone know where it is located under the application window?05:27
wilmani have a quickcam communicate installed the drivers and some webcam programs but my computer just does'nt detect the webcam05:27
pagknowledge25k, try: sudo dpkg -R texlive-lang-spanish05:27
wilmanwhat to do?05:27
PhinnFortif you set the right boot manager in KControl, KDM can enable you to select which OS to boot on next reboot05:27
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pagPhinnFort, good point - I think #kubuntu-devel is better place to ask though05:28
Dallerjhutchins_lt: /dev/usblp0 is present! - should i create a symlink? sudo ln -s /dev/usblp0 /dev/lp005:28
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knowledge25ki recive this. produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !ecive05:30
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knowledge25ki Receive:Options marked [*]  produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !05:33
Dallerjhutchins_lt: If you have any input, please post at the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51262805:33
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lewixhi05:34
BluesKajPhinnFort: it should be in the kicker/internet05:34
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pagknowledge25k, ok... try sudo dpkg -r texlive-lang-spanish   instead05:34
PhinnFortBluesKaj: ?05:34
BluesKajNM PhinnFort , i misinterpreted05:35
PhinnFortah, ok;)05:35
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geniiBack05:36
geniiDid Daller get anywhere with the HP printer?05:36
knowledge25knothing05:36
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boris_where can i set that 2 click are required to start application ?05:37
boris_clicks*05:37
pagboris_, kcontrol -> peripherals -> mouse05:37
_4str1hi : i have GPG error: http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com feisty Release ...05:37
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BluesKajgenii: no he left this message: If you have any input, please post at the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51262805:37
_4str1where can i find tghis key ?05:37
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boris_aha thank you05:38
geniiBluesKaj: OK, thx05:38
boris_its little different because im using dapper but i found it05:38
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knowledge25khow do i know if it is remove or not05:39
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BluesKajgenii:  strange prob, i couldn't find any linux drivers at HP , but he had it working on a different kubuntu 7.04 box.05:40
pagknowledge25k, apt-cache policy texlive-lang-spanish05:40
geniiBluesKaj: Almost all HP will work with just a generic Postscript driver05:40
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BluesKajyeah, mine does , but it's behind cups so , it's getting windows type messages05:41
milesbill gates is teh uber no0b hax0r05:41
BluesKajgenii:  or at least that's the way i unerstand cups works05:42
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boris_how can i stop konqueror showing those yellow squares when i press ctrl ?05:42
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BluesKajmy HP printer is hooked to windows pc on our lil network05:42
knowledge25ktexlive-lang-spanish:05:43
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knowledge25k  Installed: (none)05:43
knowledge25k  Candidate: 2005.dfsg.2-505:43
knowledge25k  Version table:05:43
knowledge25k     2005.dfsg.2-5 005:43
knowledge25k        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe Packages05:43
knowledge25k        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status05:43
runlevelten!pastebin05:43
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:43
pagknowledge25k, ok.. now everything should work05:43
boris_how can i stop konqueror showing those yellow squares when i press ctrl ?05:43
geniiBluesKaj: Mostly I have TCP type HP printers so I just tell cups IPP printing, raw Postscript05:44
knowledge25know wat should i try05:44
knowledge25kto see if it is working05:45
philo23hey guys, i'm trying to access CUPS, i try to click on add new printer, and it simply says i'm not authorised, no login dialog pops up. any ideas?05:45
BluesKajgenii:  wonder if he has the TCP option ..keeps talking parallel thru USB converter05:45
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pagboris_, it might be in accesibility options, I'm not sure though05:46
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geniiBluesKaj: I actually have one of those, it lets you plug in a parallel-port printer to a USB port05:47
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boris_there is one command i have to type in Run Command05:47
knowledge25kmy beryl won't work05:47
boris_some1 told me what i have to type in before but i had to reinstall system and i forgot it05:47
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estoesderisa!sound05:47
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP305:47
boris_!kde commands05:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kde commands - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:48
boris_!konqueror05:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about konqueror - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:48
pagboris_, kwriteconfig --file khtmlrc --group "Access Keys" --key Enabled --type bool false05:48
boris_????05:48
boris_i got dapper05:48
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BluesKajgenii:  my HP 3520 runs off a USB hub on wife's pc ...wonder if Daller has the USB direct option05:49
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knowledge25kcan anybody tell me why my beryl won't work?05:49
pagboris_, well that's the command they tell to do @ http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Hidden%20configuration#_Disable_the_accessibil05:50
BluesKaj!beryl | knowledge25k05:50
ubotuknowledge25k: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects05:50
geniiBluesKaj: It occurs to me that perhaps he has the same printer plugged in by usb-usb to one computer then by usb-parallel adapter on the second computer05:51
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knowledge25kwhat is that mean for me05:51
BluesKajgenii: he has hooked up directly to his new pc , the old one is being taken out05:52
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BluesKajyes knowledge25k05:52
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boris_ty pag i did it05:54
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Dr_WillisDang it. My Nero 7 quit working on my windows box.. Anyone know a easy/fast way to convert a .avi to a dvd with linux? :)05:56
Dr_Willisgot a single avi file the wife wants on a dvd.  and of course she wants it NOW....05:56
grizmsudo set volume wife 005:56
BluesKajDr_Willis:  fast ? aint no such animal , devede might..prefer tovid tho05:57
llutzDr_Willis: avidemux05:57
BluesKajor ya could do nerolinux05:57
Dr_Willisi dident think nerolinux did the dvd/video conversions yet.05:57
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Dr_Willisone of these days i got to get a dvd player for the wife that can play avi/divx files05:58
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geniiDr_Willis: I'm still waiting for the standalone that can do OGG05:59
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Dr_Willisavidemux can convert from avi to 'dvd''s  disk filelayout?05:59
Dr_WillisHmmm...05:59
geniiI dunno if mediacoder come for linux05:59
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knowledge25kyes what06:00
me_hi can anyone help me pls. got everytimes the same error if i try to mount my dvd device: mount: special device /dev/hda does not exist06:00
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Dr_Willisme_:  you srure the dvd  is /dev/hda ?06:00
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Ace2016it won't be hda will it?06:01
Ace2016ls /dev/hd*06:01
me_dr_willis: no i am not but in windows its the first ide slot06:01
Dr_WillisIf he has his dvd disk in the first ide cable. first slot..it could be.06:01
Ace2016and see what drives that shows06:01
Dr_Willisi normally  use /dev/dvd  :)06:01
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Dr_Willis ls -l /dev/dvd06:01
Dr_Willissee whats there06:01
me_ls: /dev/hd*: No such file or directory06:01
me_ls: /dev/dvd: No such file or directory06:02
Zee1othi, can someone help me with using my canon powershot sd1000 camera on feisty? it doesnt seem to detect anything06:02
philo23hey guys, my CUPS seems to acting badly, any one got any ideas, it doesnt prompt me for a login when i try to administer it online then failing saying i need to login. thanks06:02
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geniimust be more like /dev/sdX then06:02
Ace2016would an sata cdrom drive show up as sd06:02
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Ace2016ls /dev/sd*06:02
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morphirdevel?06:03
llutzAce2016: cdrom would be /dev/scdX06:03
me_ /dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda3  /dev/sda506:03
morphiris this the devel channel for kubuntu?06:03
me_but thats my harddisk06:03
Ace2016ls /dev/scd* ??06:04
geniimorphir: No, it's the general channel06:04
aaron_does anyone know where I coudl find some drivers for an Arheros AT5007EG network card06:04
morphir#kubuntu-devel06:04
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morphirgenii :)06:04
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Linux_NoobI am facing problem with system>pref>desktop effectrs there seem one massage that says composite extension is not available06:04
knowledge25ki'm still receive error06:05
me_aaron_: i got the same prob. let me know if u've fixed it06:05
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me_ls: /dev/scd*: No such file or directory06:05
aaron_i have searched for few days now with little to no luck06:05
Linux_Noobwell I tried everything in the forum and I have downloded Envy but nothing happened06:05
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arunHey everyone06:06
Ace2016Linux_Noob: are you trying to install the nvidia driver?06:06
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Linux_Noobno I own an Ati x1600 card06:06
Linux_Noobany idea06:06
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me_aaron_: i have to fix some other probs. try it later again. have u got a icq number or something like that. maybe we can tell each other if something solved the prob.06:06
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arunpeople still use ICQ?06:07
cloakableYes06:07
me_^^ i also have jabber06:07
Linux_Noobwell I have not got an icq but give me yours and I am going to add your number06:07
aaron_hmm i dont06:07
Ace2016Linux_Noob: well: Alt+F2 > kdesu kwrite, open /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if this is there06:07
Ace2016Section "Extensions"06:07
Ace2016        Option "Composite" "Enable"06:07
Ace2016EndSection06:07
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Linux_Noobok lets try this06:08
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aaron_does beryl work woth a ati x1200?06:08
me_ace2016:  ls: /dev/scd*: No such file or directory06:09
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WhtWolfTeraDyneAnyone know how to add Yahoo to your Konqueror search box?06:09
Ace2016me_: strange, does /media/ show it?06:09
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arunI have four logical drives on my computer. One contains my Windows installation (40 GB, I run a dual boot), one NTFS formatted partition (40 GB), one FAT32 formatted partition (30 GB), and my Kubuntu partition (51 GB)06:09
me_ace2016: just the empty folder06:09
acemoin what place does kubuntu installs the php executable?06:10
arunIf I want to remove the NTFS partition and extend my Kubuntu partition to 90GB, how do i do that?06:10
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pagWhtWolfTeraDyne, the same way you add any other search?06:10
arunacemo: what php executable06:10
Ace2016acemo: in konqueror type apt:/ search for php and look at the file lyst06:10
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acemoarun: trying to get ktorrents webgui to work and it says this "Php executable isn't in default path, please enter the path manually"06:10
vgeor "which php" in command line06:10
WhtWolfTeraDynepag: Ok. Now if I can figure out how to add to it...06:10
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Ace2016oh didn't someone ask about php and ktorrent yesterday?06:11
BluesKajllutz:  I never had much luck with avidemux, have you?06:11
llutzBluesKaj: sure06:11
knowledge25ki need help whit my error message06:11
pagWhtWolfTeraDyne, you have a link to that search? (I'm too lazy to google it up)06:11
BluesKajavi to dvd/06:11
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acemoAce2016: wasnt me.. do u perhaps know how he solved it, or does this channel gets logged somewhere? =)06:12
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llutzBluesKaj: converting avi to mpeg2, then giving them to dvdauthor and burn with growisofs06:12
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pagWhtWolfTeraDyne, http://search.yahoo.com/web <- that one?06:12