[12:15] <jacob_> all i did was install mplayer from the terminal
[12:15] <ruzzz> help me please
[12:15] <ruzzz> i bad speak english,but ...
[12:15] <ruzzz> i download kubuntu and ubuntu iso-images, write on CD-RW by NERO 7, start, but error:
[12:15] <ruzzz> (initramfs)[72.144000]  sdb: assuming drive cashe: write through
[12:15] <Phantom> help mister wizard how do I get vmware to install ?
[12:15] <jacob> THIS is where it at i think
[12:15] <jacob> wine z:\home\jacob\warcraft iii\frozen throne.exe
[12:15] <ardchoille> ruzzz: What is your native language?
[12:15] <jacob> without the wine at front
[12:15] <jacob_> i want to remove mplayer and i need somebody to help me install quicktime
[12:16] <ruzzz> russian
[12:16] <Biovore> !vmware
[12:16] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[12:16] <Biovore> !ru
[12:16] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[12:16] <ardchoille> ruzzz: Have you tried asking in #ubuntu-ru ?
[12:16] <vzduch> jacob: then you should be able to start it w/ that path
[12:16] <jacob> okay i typed in wine z:\home\jacob\warcraft iii\frozen throne.exe - opengl
[12:16] <jacob_> can you tell me how to make it work in that path?
[12:16] <jacob> and it says
[12:16] <Phantom> I have downloaded the file but don't know how to make it install ?
[12:16] <corey_> could someont tell me how i can install Tar.gz files please..
[12:17] <jacob> wine: cannot find 'z:homejacobwarcraft'
[12:17] <ruzzz> yes, but ...
[12:17] <Biovore> corey_: tar.gz is like a zip file..
[12:17] <ardchoille> corey_: What app is it? You may not need to compile
[12:17] <ruzzz> :(
[12:17] <corey_> 9999999Frostwire
[12:17] <corey_> **Frostwire
[12:17] <ardchoille> !frostwire
[12:17] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[12:17] <vzduch> jacob: put the path in "" if you don't know how to use escape characters :)
[12:18] <jacob_> i'm new to linux, so if your able, i need you to be a bit more specific please
[12:18] <jacob_> i don't know how to do that
[12:18] <ardchoille> jacob_: I think he was talking to the other jacob
[12:18] <raylu> corey_, do you still need help with a .tar.gz?
[12:18] <vzduch> jacob: wine "z:\home\jacob\warcraft iii\frozen throne.exe"   _with_ the quotation marks
[12:18] <jacob_> oh
[12:18] <raylu> one of you needs to change your nick :P
[12:18] <adenicio> u do noting lol,u cant do anything but reinstall it
[12:19] <ardchoille> YEs, it's confusing
[12:19] <raylu> w00t.
[12:19] <ardchoille> jfrias: Thank you :)
[12:19] <raylu> now, if only i could change my tty's resolution
[12:19] <Phantom> the tar file needs to be extracted I have done that part I need help with the next step
[12:19] <ardchoille> raylu: You can put a code at the end of the kernel line
[12:19] <Biovore> Phantom: that depends on what it is..
[12:19] <raylu> ardchoille, huh?
[12:20] <jacob> says the same thing vzduch
[12:20] <Biovore> Biovore: could try looking for a readme file. or something..
[12:20] <vzduch> hmm..
[12:20] <ardchoille> raylu: I added a code to the end of my kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst. the code I added was:  vga=791
[12:20] <ruzzz> i tried asking in #ubuntu-ru! But it and has not helped me!
[12:20] <jacob> anyway u can like remotely help me
[12:20] <ardchoille> raylu: That is for 1024x768 res in tty's
[12:20] <jfrias> can somebody help me install quicktime
[12:20] <raylu> oh
[12:20] <ardchoille> !quicktime
[12:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:20] <vzduch> jacob: thing that always should work: change to the directory where the .exe resides and execute from there, without giving a path
[12:21] <Phantom> Biovvore: I have a file that says installer but I how do I run it ? using ubuntu 7.04
[12:21] <jacob> what?!??!
[12:21] <ardchoille> jacob: Do you know how to navigate your file system?
[12:21] <Biovore> Phantom: if its a binary executable. you can execute it by using a shell and typeing "sh ./<filename>"
[12:21] <jacob> no
[12:21] <raylu> ardchoille, do you happen to have a list of the numbers for other resolutions?
[12:22] <jacob> im completely new to kubuntu, got it yesterday
[12:22] <ardchoille> raylu: I don't remember where I put it :(
[12:22] <Phantom> Biovore: by shell you mean from the terminal ?
[12:22] <Biovore> Phantom: yup
[12:22] <ruzzz> help me please
[12:22] <ruzzz> i bad speak english,but ...
[12:22] <ruzzz> i download kubuntu and ubuntu iso-images, write on CD-RW by NERO 7, start, but error:
[12:22] <ruzzz> busybox v1.1.3 (debian 1:1.1.3 - 3ubuntu 3) built-in shell(ash)
[12:22] <ruzzz> /bin/sh:can't access tty; job control turned off
[12:22] <ruzzz> (initramfs)[72.144000]  sdb: assuming drive cashe: write through
[12:22] <vzduch> jacob: cd "/home/jacob/warcraft iii/" ; wine "frozen throne.exe"
[12:22] <vzduch> !pastebin | ruzzz
[12:22] <ubotu> ruzzz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:22] <ardchoille> raylu: This might help http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.2
[12:23] <jacob> so put that in konsole vzduch?
[12:23] <vzduch> jacob: yep
[12:23] <Biovore> Phantom: or in the gui to set it as exec (+x) and then just clicking on it.. (I am not sure if that works though)
[12:23] <vzduch> jacob: note that these are 2 commands
[12:24] <corey_> can someone explain to me in easy terms how to install Tar.gz
[12:24] <ardchoille> raylu: section 5.3 "What VESA modes are available to me?"
[12:24] <Min46770> wow! Free calls -  http://callfree.point-serv.com/en
[12:24] <vzduch> corey_: depends on if you have a binary there or a source tarball
[12:24] <jacob> first command says no such file or directory
[12:24] <Biovore> ruzzz: did you verify your CD after you burned it?
[12:24] <ardchoille> corey_: Have you looked at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire  ?
[12:24] <jtong> hi guys, i'm on edgy right now and would like to upgrade to vim7
[12:24] <vzduch> jacob: then the path is not correct
[12:24] <jacob> ill just reinstall it to the "windows" directory
[12:24] <jacob> yeah i installed it to my home folder
[12:25] <raylu> ardchoille, ok, here goes with 795; thanks
[12:25] <jacob> but it still makes a folder in the windows directory also
[12:25] <jtong> but adept doesn't find vim 7, why?
[12:25] <Biovore> jtong: I belive its in backports
[12:25] <corey_> ardchoille: Yes.. i downloaded the .deb file and inside i still end up with a tar.gz file
[12:25] <sstchur> i have numlock turned off, and when I press shift + 7 (home), I expect it to highlight text from my cursor to the beginning of the line.  Instead, it gives me a 7.  Is there a way in KDE to change this behavior?
[12:25] <jtong> Biovore: what's a backport?
[12:26] <cabroni> who i use 7zip?
[12:26] <jtong> Biovore: as in 7.04 package ported to 6.10 packge?
[12:26] <ardchoille> corey_: According to that page, all you need to do is double-click the .deb to install
[12:26] <Minataku> Hm
[12:26] <raylu> o.0
[12:26] <raylu> i think it's working...
[12:26] <Minataku> That's an interesting link that got spammed
 yes, ... Well, it has made Nero. It is enough of it?
[12:26] <lockd> cabroni: who uses, or how do you use?
[12:26] <ardchoille> raylu: yay!
[12:26] <vzduch> jtong: Vim 7 is in Feisty main
[12:26] <vzduch> jtong: for Edgy, I don't know
[12:26] <Biovore> jtong: looks like everyone building it from source at the moument..
[12:27] <cabroni> how use it?
[12:27] <jtong> vzduch: yeah i know and i can build using src but i want to keep it "clean"
[12:27] <raylu> cabroni, what are you trying to do?
[12:27] <ardchoille> !7zip
[12:27] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[12:27] <leafw> has anyone ever managed to use the modem in a T60 ?
[12:27] <cabroni> decompress a .tgz
[12:27] <ardchoille> cabroni: I think 7z files can be opened with ark
[12:27] <Minataku> Haha
[12:28] <Minataku> That link is pretty slick
[12:28] <corey_> ardchoille: i did, and it opened with Ark thats it
[12:28] <cabroni> but i see that it not have a gui version
[12:28] <raylu> wewt!
[12:28] <raylu> thanks, ardchoille
[12:28] <ardchoille> corey_: Do you have java installed?
[12:28] <ardchoille> raylu: You're welcome :)
[12:28] <jfrias> can somebody teach me how to install quicktime for linux please
[12:28] <ruzzz> All of you are borrowed?
[12:28] <jfrias> it's a tar.bz2 file
[12:29] <lockd> cabroni: ark has a GUI version
[12:29] <corey_> ardchoille: unless it came preinstalled with the CD, then no
[12:29] <x_link> ardchoille: Thanks for explaing, I really appreicate it!
[12:29] <x_link> =)
[12:29] <jfrias> i don't know how to install tar.bz2 files
[12:29] <jacob> how do i get into my files
[12:29] <jtong> what's the package management paradigm in ubuntu? u just use old package until they updatge the package for your release?
[12:29] <vzduch> ruzzz: borrowed? (??)
[12:29] <raylu> !bz | jfrias
[12:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:29] <ardchoille> corey_: Then you're going to ned java to use frostwire
[12:29] <raylu> o.0
[12:29] <ruzzz> or my english BAD?
[12:29] <raylu> !bz2
[12:29] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[12:29] <raylu> jfrias, ^
[12:29] <ardchoille> x_link: You're welcome :)
[12:29] <jfrias> yes
[12:29] <ruzzz> :( my english bad
[12:29] <leafw> jfrias:  quicktime? That's an apple thinguie, most likely not supported or only through wine for the windows version.
[12:30] <cabroni> problem solved, thanks :)
[12:30] <raylu> ruzzz, we're not paid, if that's what you're asking
[12:30] <corey_> Whichversion of Java do i download... oh my  this is soo confusing
[12:30] <jfrias> leafw: are you sure?
[12:30] <raylu> corey_, for what?
[12:30] <jfrias> http://heroinewarrior.com/download.php3
[12:30] <ardchoille> !java | corey_
[12:30] <ubotu> corey_: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[12:30] <jfrias> go to that site
[12:30] <jfrias> http://heroinewarrior.com/download.php3
[12:30] <x_link> ardchoille: But I unfortunaly didn't understand =/
[12:31] <leafw> http://www.apple.com/quicktime/
[12:31] <jfrias> leaftw: down, where it says source code
[12:31] <ardchoille> x_link: Ok, I'll try and help. How far have you gotten?
[12:31] <ardchoille> !seveas
[12:31] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:31] <x_link> ardchoille: I haven't fixed the repo yet.
[12:31] <x_link> I really don't get it =/
[12:32] <leafw> jfrias: cinelerra is a totally different thing than quicktime.
[12:32] <x_link> ardchoille: Can you give me the link again?
[12:32] <Geekosaur> Greetings and Salutatioons, y'all
[12:32] <ruzzz> All of you are was engaged in business and you do not have business up to me
[12:32] <x_link> Ahh I found it.
[12:32] <ardchoille> x_link: Here's the link but I'll try and walk you through it  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:32] <jfrias> it says "quicktime4linux"
[12:32] <lockd> isn't cinelerra an editor and quicktime a player?
[12:32] <jfrias> leafw: it says "quicktime4linux"
[12:33] <x_link> ardchoille: Okej, thanks.
[12:33] <jfrias> http://heroinewarrior.com/download.php3
[12:33] <ardchoille> x_link: First of all, open a terminal
[12:33] <jfrias> leafw: check again
[12:33] <x_link> ardchoille: done
[12:33] <leafw> jfrias: true. Who knows what parts of quicktime it supports. I nany case, then just get it and make + make install
[12:33] <jfrias> leafw: or just put quicktime for linux in google, and click on the first result
[12:33] <ruzzz> what is message (install time):  /bin/sh:can't access tty; job control turned off
[12:33] <ardchoille> x_link: You will need authentication keys for the repo. type this: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1135D466
[12:34] <ruzzz> and           (initramfs)[72.144000]  sdb: assuming drive cashe: write through
[12:34] <x_link> Don't I need to add the repo first ardchoille ?
[12:34] <ardchoille> x_link: not yet
[12:34] <jfrias> leafw: do you know how to install tar.bz2 files?
[12:34] <x_link> ardchoille: Okej.
[12:34] <ardchoille> x_link: now type this: gpg --export --armor 1135D466 | sudo apt-key add -
[12:34] <[ifr0g] > what does rootnoverify really men
[12:34] <[ifr0g] > mean ?
[12:34] <leafw> jfrias: that is a compresed format. Just unack it first.
[12:35] <[ifr0g] > from Grub.
[12:35] <leafw> jfrias: tar xvjf myfile.tar.bz2
[12:35] <x_link> ardchoille: Done.
[12:35] <ruzzz> Well help the beginner in Kubuntu
[12:35] <leafw> jfrias: it menas, it contains source code, so you'll need to compile it afterwards.
[12:35] <[ifr0g] > what do they mean by ""This is useful for when an OS is outside of the area of the disk that GRUB can read, ?
[12:35] <ardchoille> raylu: In the time it takes to open and get into kgpg, he could type the comands and be done
[12:35] <jfrias> leafw: do i need to enter root
[12:36] <jfrias> leafw: do i need to type sudo su?
[12:36] <raylu> ardchoille, in the time he mistypes the commands, he could have installed kgpg :P
[12:36] <Prophezy> do anyone know why, when i click on my Knetworkmanager in the menu nothing happens??
[12:36] <ardchoille> x_link: Ok, open your /etc/apt/sources.list as root - which ever way is comfy for you
[12:36] <leafw> jfrias: not at all if you don't need to install system wide. You can just leave the files where they are. Or install to a local dir to your home folder.
[12:36] <Ace2016> sudo -s
[12:36] <x_link> ardchoille: Done.
[12:36] <ardchoille> raylu: Don't be facetious :P
[12:36] <leafw> jfrias: just unpack and read the README in the folder.
[12:36] <ruzzz> It is a lot of you, really nobody will help
[12:36] <jfrias> leafw: ok, i'll get in root
[12:37] <leafw> jfrias: you don't need root to unpack or to compile.
[12:37] <Ace2016> sudo checkinstall -D instead of make install, its easier to remove it then
[12:37] <lockd> ruzzz: what are you trying to do?
[12:37] <vzduch> leafw: which would commonly require a '--prefix=home/$user/$path' to be set
[12:37] <leafw> vzduch : hopefully explained in the README ...
[12:37] <ruzzz> i trying install kubuntu 7 from live cd
[12:37] <ardchoille> x_link: you on feisty?
[12:38] <x_link> ardchoille: Kubuntu 7.04
[12:38] <ruzzz> but see message about error
[12:38] <vzduch> leafw: never really seen a README that explains that for non-technical users
[12:38] <x_link> I guess that's Feisty.
[12:38] <ardchoille> x_link: ok, that's feisty
[12:38] <x_link> Okej =)
[12:38] <x_link> New on Kubuntu =)
[12:38] <ardchoille> x_link: at the bottom of your sources, add: deb http://seveas.imbrandon.com/ feisty-seveas all
[12:39] <vzduch> jfrias: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:39] <lockd> ruzzz: live cd as in one from the Desktop iso?
[12:39] <leafw> vzduch : some do. Otherwise 'info configure'
[12:39] <vzduch> jfrias: sudo apt-get build-dep $nameOfTheProgramYouWantToBuild
[12:39] <leafw> vzduch : .. will tell you.
[12:39] <x_link> ardchoille: Okej.
[12:39] <jfrias> ok let me get my ubuntu cd to install it
[12:39] <ardchoille> x_link: and then add: deb-src http://seveas.imbrandon.com/ feisty-seveas all
[12:39] <jfrias> thx
[12:40] <lockd> ruzzz: can you pastebin the error?  Or can you get online at all?
[12:40] <x_link> ardchoille: Done.
[12:40] <lockd> ruzzz: err, WEb client
[12:40] <raylu> hm...
[12:40] <raylu> so how do i set the font for my tty font now? :P
[12:40] <ardchoille> x_link: save the file. in the terminal, type: sudo apt-get update
[12:40] <x_link> I did that
[12:40] <x_link> .
[12:41] <ardchoille> x_link: ok, now type: apt-cache search --names-only w32codecs
[12:41] <ardchoille> and see if it's there
[12:41] <x_link> aw32codecs - Win32 codec binaries
[12:41] <x_link> Now sudo aptitude install w32codecs I guess?
[12:42] <ardchoille> yes
[12:42] <x_link> Doing that now =)
[12:42] <ruzzz> pastebin the error - it is - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[12:42] <x_link> THanks ardchoille !!
[12:42] <x_link> ruzzz: Yeah.
[12:42] <x_link> ruzzz: That's a pastebin-site.
[12:43] <jfrias> leafw: i need to reboot, i'll be back
[12:43] <ardchoille> x_link: the gpg stuff was to add keys to your keyring to authenticate packages from the new repo. add the deb lines was to add the new repo to your sources. And, well, you know the rest :)
[12:43] <smax> hi
[12:43] <ardchoille> x_link: fwiw, I feel you should familiarise yourself with how the sources work with your package manager
[12:43] <x_link> ardchoille: Yeah I know all of that =)
[12:44] <smax> i installed the package libnet1 from apt.  yet find / | grep libnet.a  does not exist.
[12:44] <x_link> ardchoille: I just didn't understand which repo to use, that's all =)
[12:44] <x_link> ardchoille: I really appreicate your help, thanks alot man!
[12:44] <jacob> OMG HOE DO I OPEN FROZEN THRONE.EXE WITH WINE!
[12:44] <x_link> I will see ofI can watch movies with mplayer now
[12:44] <ruzzz> i dont understand what is <syntax> on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[12:44] <raylu> jacob, did you read the appdb about it?
[12:44] <ardchoille> x_link: there's only one repo. but the sections can be confusing. you're using the "all" meta section.
[12:44] <x_link> ardchoille: Cause with VLC I can't fast forward anymore or take it back, cause then the movie starts over again.
[12:44] <raylu> this is epic failure...my CONSOLE is LAGGING at this resolution...holy crap
[12:44] <x_link> Wasn't like this in Debian.
[12:44] <x_link> ardchoille: Okej.
[12:45] <x_link> Thanks again! =)
[12:45] <jacob> whats appdb
[12:45] <vzduch> ruzzz: normally not needed, it's for markup if you're pasting e.g. source code or something
[12:45] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[12:45] <raylu> jacob, http://appdb.winehq.org
[12:45] <jacob> i mean, not just open it
[12:45] <jacob> but open with opengl
[12:45] <x_link> Damn it, still can't watch movies in mplayer.
[12:45] <ruzzz> ah, understand, sanx
[12:45] <x_link> Fatal error!
[12:45] <raylu> jacob...if it runs fine...why do you need to specify opengl?
[12:46] <x_link> Erro opening/initializing the selection video_out (-vo) device.
[12:46] <x_link> I get that message.
[12:46] <ardchoille> x_link: try xine
[12:46] <x_link> What does that mean?
[12:46] <x_link> ok
[12:46] <jacob> its quite choppy
[12:46] <ardchoille> x_link: it means you need to tweak the setting for your video out device
[12:46] <jacob> i thought that would make it better?
[12:46] <x_link> ardchoille: Ohh, where do I do that?
[12:47] <x_link> ardchoille: didn't find xine
[12:47] <Apollodoros> hello
[12:47] <Apollodoros> How can I set manually required reso and refresh rate in X.conf?
[12:47] <adenicio> x_link: wa is xine?
[12:47] <ardchoille> x_link: You have to install xine, but let's try to get your video working in mplayer now
[12:47] <ardchoille> !info xine
[12:47] <ubotu> Package xine does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:47] <x_link> ardchoille: I tried to install it, but didn't find it.
[12:48] <ardchoille> ubotu: you're full of crap too
[12:48] <ardchoille> !xine
[12:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:48] <jacob_> my disk tray doesnt want to close
[12:48] <x_link> There is totem-xine. But not xine only.
[12:48] <jacob_> what's wrong with it?
[12:48] <adenicio> ardchoille: lol
[12:48] <x_link> !totem-xine
[12:48] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[12:48] <adenicio> !wine
[12:48] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
 And when to me will answer
[12:48] <jacob_> can somebody help me, it probably doesn't wanna close cause of ubuntu
[12:48] <ardchoille> !info xine-ui
[12:48] <ubotu> xine-ui: the xine video player, user interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.4+dfsg+cvs20061111-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1483 kB, installed size 3532 kB
[12:48] <jacob_> when i had windows it closes
[12:48] <adenicio> !gnu
[12:48] <ubotu> G(NU's) N(ot) U(nix). A project that aimed to develop a complete operating system of Free Software, which Ubuntu is based on. See http://gnu.org
[12:48] <ardchoille> Thought so, it's just named differently
[12:49] <adenicio> !windows
[12:49] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[12:49] <adenicio> !vlc
[12:49] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[12:49] <vzduch> Apollodoros: refresh & sync rates are in the 'Section "Device"' for your display, syntax is self-explanatory (if you already have values for HorizSync and VertRefresh, that is)
[12:49] <ardchoille> x_link: xine-ui is xine
[12:50] <x_link> ok
[12:50] <vzduch> Apollodoros: you will find the resolutions yourself, everyone should know what a resolution indication looks like ;)
[12:50] <ardchoille> x_link: mplayer -> preferences -> Video
[12:50] <x_link> ok
[12:50] <adenicio> oh
[12:50] <x_link> ardchoille: Then?
[12:51] <ardchoille> x_link: try a different driver
[12:52] <x_link> ardchoille: ok
[12:53] <x_link> ardchoille: I choosed X11, now it works =)
[12:53] <ardchoille> x_link: :)
[12:53] <adenicio> how to install the cube on kubuntu?
[12:53] <adenicio> berly etc...
[12:54] <ardchoille> adenicio: You might want to join #ubuntu-effects
[12:54] <x_link> ardchoille: hehe can't get fullscreen though
[12:55] <ardchoille> x_link: Does it work if you full screen mplayer and then start the video?
[12:55] <x_link> I just had to change something in video =)
[12:56] <ardchoille> ok
[12:57] <adenicio> ardchoille: how many chat room it have i only got kubuntu
[12:57] <x_link> ardchoille: Thanks alot again!
[12:57] <ardchoille> x_link: You're welcome :)
[12:57] <vzduch> adenicio: ?
[12:57] <ardchoille> adenicio: #ubuntu-effects is for things like beryl and compiz
[01:00] <adenicio> ardchoille: no anserring me
[01:01] <ardchoille> adenicio: Ok, sorry about that.
[01:01] <ardchoille> I thought if anyone would know they would
[01:02] <[ifr0g] > how do i install grub if i dont have the stage1 in my root partion ?
[01:02] <[ifr0g] >  in /boot dir.
[01:02] <ardchoille> !grub
[01:02] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:02] <adenicio> !berly
[01:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about berly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:03] <ardchoille> !beryl
[01:03] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:04] <adenicio> !3ddesktop
[01:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3ddesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:04] <solarwaver> if u do format and put windows lilo configuration is still on value??
[01:04] <ardchoille> !info 3ddesktop
[01:04] <ubotu> 3ddesktop: "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.9-6 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 432 kB
[01:09] <vzduch> good night ppl :)
[01:09] <Mr_Sonoma> im having a bit of a network issue, 2 computers both running kubuntu and only one can see the net through the router, from what i see in the knetworkmanager both systems seem to have recognised with the same dns and route settings
[01:09] <Mr_Sonoma> where else should i look?
[01:10] <vzduch> Mr_Sonoma: did you forward any ports to the machine that sees the 'net?
[01:10] <Mr_Sonoma> no
[01:10] <Mr_Sonoma> just plugged it it
[01:10] <vzduch> hmm
[01:10] <Mr_Sonoma> in
[01:10] <Mr_Sonoma> even
[01:10] <ice9> how do I install a ,rpm file?
[01:10] <vzduch> so that shouldn't be the issue
[01:11] <Mr_Sonoma> both are running 7.04
[01:11] <jacob> okay does anyone know how i  can open warcraft 3 the frozen throne in opengl
[01:11] <stoned> !alien
[01:11] <vzduch> ice9: you don't, you look for a .deb w/ that name
[01:11] <Mr_Sonoma> i puzzled all night just about last night.
[01:11] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[01:11] <BluesKaj> !rpm
[01:11] <ardchoille> ice9: You don't, look in the repos for the app or find a ubuntu deb. using alien is dangerous.
[01:11] <stoned> no it isn't
[01:11] <ardchoille> ice9: Which app is it?
[01:11] <jacob> hello?
[01:11] <stoned> it CAN be
[01:11] <stoned> but it isn't always
[01:12] <ice9> 3ddesktop
[01:12] <ardchoille> stoned: If there's a question of whether it's dangerous or not, then it's dangerous, IMHO.
[01:12] <stoned> ardchoille: not always.
[01:13] <ardchoille> No need in recommending something that has the possibility of breaking someone's system.
[01:13] <vzduch> !info 3ddesktop
[01:13] <ubotu> 3ddesktop: "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.9-6 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 432 kB
[01:13] <ardchoille> ice9: Which app is the rpm?
[01:13] <vzduch> ice9: sudo apt-get install 3ddesktop
[01:13] <stoned> I suppose it isn't dangerous for me, I know what I am doing
[01:13] <solarwaver> if u do format and put windows lilo configuration is still on value??
[01:14] <solarwaver> is anyone knows if u do format and put windows lilo configuration is still on value??
[01:14] <vzduch> solarwaver: you need to update LILO (or any boot manager, for that matter) if you change something in your setup
[01:15] <jacob> HELLO?!?!?!? does anyone know how i can open frozen throne.exe in opengl with WINE
[01:15] <stoned> jacob: #cedega
[01:15] <bharath> can anyone plz tell me if there is a non-GUI equivalent for wireshark (ethereal)?
[01:15] <stoned> afaik it won't run without it
[01:15] <jacob> cedega costs
[01:15] <stoned> copy protected cd
[01:15] <stoned> wine doesn't do copy protections
[01:15] <jacob> what?
[01:15] <solarwaver> hi vzduch how can i update lilo u mean to start after puting win with the cd
[01:15] <jacob> ive already installed it
[01:15] <stoned> why?
[01:16] <jacob> i just need to open it with opengl now cus the texts are screwed up
[01:16] <vzduch> solarwaver: I haven't used LILO for quite a while.. I guess you need to start your live CD after installing Win & reinstall LILO
[01:16] <bharath> someone, can anyone plz tell me if there is a non-GUI equivalent for wireshark (ethereal)?
[01:16] <stoned> bharath: apt-cache search sniffer
[01:17] <stoned> maybe
[01:17] <vzduch> !lilo
[01:17] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[01:17] <solarwaver> vzduch how i reinsstal it?
[01:17] <vzduch> solarwaver: man lilo  should give you some clues :)
[01:17] <solarwaver> how i reinstall grub
[01:18] <vzduch> !grub
[01:18] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:18] <jacob> how do i change my name on irc here
[01:18] <vzduch> jacob: /nick newNick
[01:19] <stoned> jacob: /nick stoned_is_great
[01:19] <stoned> ehehe
[01:19] <vzduch> you better not change too often, some ops don't like that :)
[01:19] <stoned> Jacob88: install ktorrent
[01:20] <stoned> or just click a torrent link and it will open it
[01:20] <Jacob88> already have it i think
[01:20] <stoned> and start to download
[01:20] <[ifr0g] > does find in grub find files which are not even mounted ??
[01:20] <stoned> search google
[01:20] <stoned> tons of tutorials on torrents
[01:20] <stoned> thats how i downloaded kubuntu
[01:20] <stoned> utnubuk
[01:20] <stoned> ahaha
[01:20] <stoned> oot noo book
[01:20] <stoned> koob oon too
[01:20] <solarwaver> vzduch i print !grub and is instaling it by itself?
[01:21] <stoned> im a genius
[01:21] <vzduch> solarwaver: read the howto, it says what to do
[01:22] <vzduch> anyway, I wanted to go to bed.. so I'll be gone now :)
[01:22] <Jacob88> how do i go through my files? like say i want to navigate through my files like windows
[01:23] <[ifr0g] > solarwaver, sorry ?
[01:24] <[ifr0g] > JohanSalim, duh ! using a file manager !
[01:24] <solarwaver> thanx
[01:24] <solarwaver> i read it
[01:25] <solarwaver> ifrog ?????????
[01:25] <Jacob88>  how do i go through my files? like say i want to navigate through my files like window
[01:25] <[ifr0g] > Jacob88, ^^ Filemanager.
[01:26] <[ifr0g] > konqueror
[01:26] <[ifr0g] > solarwaver, i did not get what you were trying to say.
[01:26] <Jacob88> er
[01:26] <Jacob88> i want to get to my c drive how would i do that
[01:26] <underdog5004> Jacob88, there is no c: drive
[01:26] <solarwaver> what do u mean sorry ?
[01:27] <Jacob88> yes, i have a c drive trust me
[01:27] <Jacob88> i created it
[01:27] <ice9> lol
[01:27] <[ifr0g] > Jacob88, open up konqueror and browes to /media/ Should be mounted there.
[01:27] <underdog5004> Jacob88, do you see the thing that looks like a Globe with gear teeth around it? That's the file manager
[01:27] <underdog5004> use that
[01:27] <bharath> @stoned: thanks, i think tshark will do the job
[01:27] <[ifr0g] > :D
[01:27] <underdog5004> Jacob88, do you have windows installed as well?
[01:27] <Jacob88> no
[01:28] <Jacob88>    Home Folder
[01:28] <underdog5004> then you don't have a c: drive. Linux doesn't assign random letters to drives
[01:28] <Jacob88> Your personal files      Storage Media
[01:28] <Jacob88> Disks and removable media
[01:29] <Jacob88>      Network Folders
[01:29] <Jacob88> Shared files and folders      Trash
[01:29] <Jacob88> Browse and restore the trash
[01:29] <Jacob88>      Applications
[01:29] <Jacob88> Installed programs      About Kubuntu
[01:29] <Jacob88> Kubuntu Documentation
[01:29] <Jacob88> thats all thats there
[01:29] <underdog5004> Jacob88, all your personal folders are in Home Folder
[01:29] <Jacob88> no not that.
[01:29] <underdog5004> what do you mean?
[01:29] <Jacob88> is there no way to navigate through ALL of my computers files and drives
[01:29] <underdog5004> yes
[01:29] <underdog5004> open konqueror
[01:29] <underdog5004> then you can go anywhere you like
[01:30] <ardchoille> !bash | Jacob88
[01:30] <ubotu> Jacob88: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[01:30] <underdog5004> open up the k-menu, go to Internet, then click on konqueror
[01:30] <Jacob88> yeah im on that
[01:30] <[ifr0g] > can find in grub find a file that is not even mounted ?
[01:30] <underdog5004> Jacob88, in the address bar, just type a /
[01:30] <underdog5004> then you can browse all your stuff
[01:31] <underdog5004> [ifr0g] , grub is a bootloader
[01:31] <Jacob88> An error occurred while loading locate:a+/:
[01:31] <Jacob88> The file or folder  does not exist.
[01:31] <underdog5004> Jacob88, just the /
[01:31] <[ifr0g] > underdog5004, yes i am aware of that.
[01:32] <underdog5004> [ifr0g] , do you mean "Can it detect partitions/drives that aren't mounted?"?
[01:32] <[ifr0g] > underdog5004, huh, i was guessing files which are present in an unmounted partition.
[01:33] <Jacob88> i have  z,c,d,e drives
[01:33] <Jacob88> z is main one
[01:33] <Jacob88> d and e are cd ones
[01:33] <underdog5004> [ifr0g] , grub isn't going to give you access to files...it will only load kernels
[01:33] <Jacob88> and c is where a game is i installed
[01:33] <underdog5004> Jacob88, why do you say that? Linux doesn't use that format for drives. They should be /dev/hda1, /dev/hdb, etc...
[01:34] <Jacob88> im just looking at WINE
[01:34] <Jacob88> wine says those are my drives
[01:34] <ice9> lol thats a wndows emulator
[01:34] <[ifr0g] > underdog5004, huh, but i can tell you in which device a file is present.
[01:34] <ice9> it has to emular a c:/ drive so that it can load windows games properly
[01:34] <underdog5004> Jacob88, those aren't real drives, those are virtual drives.
[01:34] <[ifr0g] > underdog5004, Check the man. Under find.
[01:34] <underdog5004> [ifr0g] , oh, ok
[01:34] <Jacob88> so where would this game be then?
[01:34] <last> what link irc kubunbu portuguese ??
[01:35] <underdog5004> Jacob88, have you installed the game with wine?
[01:35] <ardchoille> !pt
[01:35] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[01:35] <last> Thanks
[01:35] <Jacob88> yes
[01:35] <ice9> ./wine/drive_c usually
[01:35] <ice9> I mean /.wine/drive_c
[01:35] <underdog5004> look in your kmenu under lost+found...it may be in there
[01:36] <ardchoille> underdog5004: Do apps installed via wine even have kmenu entries?
[01:36] <Jacob88> er what folder is wine located in
[01:36] <ice9> home
[01:36] <underdog5004> ardchoille, I've seen it, sometimes
[01:36] <underdog5004> Jacob88, /home/username/.wine
[01:36] <Jacob88> its not in my home folder
[01:36] <underdog5004> Jacob88, yes, yes it is
[01:36] <[ifr0g] > Jacob88, do you know how you use konsole ?
[01:36] <ardchoille> Jacob88: ~/.wine
[01:36] <ice9> Ardchoille, not kmenu, they can have desktop icon shortcuts though
[01:37] <ardchoille> ice9: Ah, ok
[01:37] <Jacob88> yes
[01:37] <[ifr0g] > Jacob88, please run this.. in it..
[01:37] <[ifr0g] > konqueror /home/`whoami`/.wine/
[01:37] <Jacob88> AH! i found it
[01:37] <underdog5004> just paste it in
[01:38] <Jacob88> just typed in /home/jacob/.wine
[01:38] <Jacob88> in address bar
[01:38] <Jacob88> thanks
[01:38] <underdog5004> no problem
[01:38] <[ifr0g] > :)
[01:38] <[ifr0g] > pheww.
[01:38] <ardchoille> Jacob88: "~" is a shortcut for /home/YUOR_USERNAME/
[01:39] <underdog5004> I'm out for a bit
[01:39] <Jacob88> anyway i can tell konsole to open this file with opengl
[01:39] <ice9> ya
[01:40] <ice9> but I think you can with the command winecfg too
[01:40] <[ifr0g] > What the diff bet hda and sda ?
[01:40] <[ifr0g] > devices*
[01:40] <ardchoille> usually hda is IDE and sda is SCSI or a USB device
[01:41] <[ifr0g] > Jacob88, everything you install with wine comes in the kde menu...under wine.
[01:41] <ardchoille> some USB mp3 players get recognised as sda
[01:41] <[ifr0g] > ardchoille, interesting.
[01:41] <[ifr0g] > so i have an internal usb drive ..
[01:41] <[ifr0g] > Nice.
[01:42] <Jacob88> so
[01:42] <ardchoille> [ifr0g] : or you have SCSI dirves :)
[01:42] <Jacob88> how can i open this game aka "frozen throne.exe" with wine IN open gl
[01:42] <[ifr0g] > ardchoille, lol ok ..:)
[01:43] <ardchoille> Jacob88: Does wine recognise openGL? Sounds like you're trying to merge two different technologies
[01:43] <elite101> hey does photoshop7 work good with WINE?
[01:43] <ardchoille> But I could be wrong.
[01:43] <ice9> jacob88, wine (filename.exe) opengl
[01:43] <Jacob88> er
[01:44] <Jacob88> jacob@JakesComp:~$ wine frozen throne.exe opengl
[01:44] <Jacob88> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\frozen.exe": Module not found
[01:44] <[ifr0g] > elite101, they did get it to work, if i last recall. do google for the guide.
[01:45] <underdog5004> Jacob88, I'm not sure, but it may be wine C:\path\to\the\exe
[01:45] <[ifr0g] > <Jacob88>  wine frozen\ throne.exe
[01:45] <ice9> ya I had some problems getting opengl working too, try going into the #wine channel, they may know more there
[01:46] <Jacob88> #wine
[01:47] <[ifr0g] > #winehq
[01:47] <Jacob88> #winehq
[01:47] <ardchoille> /join #winehq
[01:48] <Jacob88> how can i get frozen throne.exe to do in opengl
[01:48] <Jacob88> oops wrong channel
[01:48] <[ifr0g] > :)
[01:49] <ardchoille> Isn't openGL for Linux and ActiveX for Windows? Shouldn't that game be using ActiveX ?
[01:50] <ice9> windows uses opengl too
[01:50] <killown> nautilus show me preview of musics when I touch point mouse on music but konqueror not ..does konqueror have support fo do it?
[01:50] <[ifr0g] > ardchoille, if it is.. then winewill automatically download it.
[01:50] <[ifr0g] > ardchoille, it did so when i played cs1.6
[01:51] <nicolas> anyone knows the right way to dial an adsl ?
[01:51] <killown> nicolas pppoeconf
[01:51] <ardchoille> killown: "show" a preview of a music file? I'm confused. But I do know that knoqueror can do previews.
[01:51] <nicolas> killown: is there a kde tool for this ?
[01:51] <[ifr0g] > nicolas, do you have a router ?
[01:52] <nicolas> [ifr0g] : no
[01:52] <ardchoille> killown: konq -> prefences -> Misc Options section in the Behaviour tab
[01:52] <killown> nautilus have support for do it
[01:52] <[ifr0g] > nicolas, huh, so an adsl modem .. usb ?
[01:52] <nicolas> the problem is i have to explain how to do this on the phone
[01:52] <nicolas> [ifr0g] : ethernt
[01:53] <[ifr0g] > nicolas, what hardware exactly ?
[01:54] <nicolas> i just need to know if there is a kde tool to dial an adsl
[01:54] <nicolas> [ifr0g] : can't tell what the modem is, they say nothing is written on it
[01:54] <nicolas> as they described, seems like an old speedstream
[01:55] <namol> adsl-config ?
[01:55] <[ifr0g] > nicolas, sorry, i did it manually..
[01:55] <nicolas> if there is a graphical tool it would help
[01:55] <yotux> I can't boot into kubuntu after an update
[01:56] <yotux> something about bin/bash
[01:56] <[ifr0g] > yotux, and error would be help ful.
[01:56] <[ifr0g] > an*
[01:57] <namol> nicolas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[01:58] <nicolas> namol: thanks
[01:58] <[ifr0g] > namol, i was just looking at that page .. but no graphical tool there..
[01:59] <yotux> ifrOg:  i have a past bin of what the screen says
[01:59] <namol> nicolas: try kppp?
[01:59] <yotux> link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31850/
[02:02] <Silent_G> hello can someone tell me how to make networking on linux
[02:02] <Silent_G> the other computer is windows
[02:02] <Silent_G> i want to share files and printers
[02:02] <Silent_G> i want to be able to browse the other computer's shared folders
[02:02] <yotux> I think you need samba
[02:03] <Silent_G> i installed it
[02:03] <Silent_G> but i dont know how to use it :S
[02:03] <BluesKaj> samba and smb4k network browser
[02:03] <yotux> I have not used it yet myself sorry
[02:04] <[ifr0g] > yotux, could you get the menu.lst file ? some how !
[02:04] <Silent_G> BluesKaj, with smb4k i'll be able to browse the other computer and send things there?
[02:04] <BluesKaj> yes , Silent_G
[02:05] <Silent_G> OK
[02:05] <[ifr0g] > or, if you are experianced enough pls check if that file is pointing to the right parition.
[02:05] <[ifr0g] > when booting.
[02:05] <Silent_G> what configurations i must do first? and how is the other computer using windows gonna "Map" this network device?
[02:05] <BluesKaj> now if the the other computer is windows , you can browse it with your linuxbox but vice versa can be a little more difficult
[02:05] <yotux> I can try,   i just did an update with apt-get dist-update
[02:06] <dec_> hello
[02:06] <Silent_G> hmm
[02:06] <Silent_G> how much difficult BluesKaj ? :o
[02:06] <[ifr0g] > yotux, you mean dist-upgrade
[02:06] <yotux> yes very sorry
[02:06] <BluesKaj> it can be done , but it takes a bit of research , Silent_G
[02:07] <Silent_G> ic
[02:07] <Silent_G> can you help me in it?
[02:07] <[ifr0g] > yotux, or you could try booting into recovery mode or the previous kernel from that menu.
[02:07] <BluesKaj> I had it working bothways for a while, til I upgraded to feisty
[02:07] <Silent_G> ic
[02:08] <Juno> does anyone in here speak german?
[02:08] <yotux> ifr0g: that is what I am going to try
[02:08] <[ifr0g] > ok
[02:08] <BluesKaj> setting up to browse from linux ...I can help ...browsing from the windows pc , I can't :(
[02:09] <BluesKaj> !de | Juno
[02:09] <ubotu> Juno: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:11] <bishnu_> how could I change the bit rate on wireless connection?
[02:11] <Silent_G> BluesKaj, Smb4k is showing that my network is MSHOME, how can i change it to a different name?
[02:11] <phyeradmin> hello, sorry to be repetitive but im still encountering that broken python package in adept and i need the command for flushing the cashe so i can at least try to get synaptic
[02:12] <[ifr0g] > bishnu_, check on the iwconfig man page.
[02:12] <bishnu_> thx
[02:12] <BluesKaj> Silent_G:  that the default name when connecting to a windows pc
[02:12] <[ifr0g] > Anytime ;)
[02:12] <Silent_G> yes
[02:12] <Silent_G> but i changed my mother's to HOME
[02:12] <Silent_G> instead of MSHOME
[02:12] <Silent_G> cause i dont like MSHOME lol
[02:12] <Silent_G> how can i change mine to HOME?
[02:13] <BluesKaj> don't , just leave it , Silent_G ...it doesn't matter
[02:14] <[ifr0g] > phyeradmin, cashe ?
[02:14] <jacob> i need somebody's help, my laptop's disk tray will not close, i suspect that software issue locks my disk tray and doesn't let it close
[02:14] <jacob> could it be linux? when i had windows the disk tray will open and close correctly
[02:14] <elite101> how do u change the apperance of kubuntu the colour scheme?
[02:14] <[ifr0g] > jacob, eject -t
[02:15] <elite101> how do u change the apperance of kubuntu the colour scheme?
[02:15] <[ifr0g] > elite101, k > system settings > appearance
[02:15] <phyeradmin> ifr0g: probably bad terminolgy but its a broken python package I need out the system so I can get other things installed
[02:15] <phyeradmin> other than that im stuck withthat warning
[02:16] <[ifr0g] > phyeradmin, oh, you mean a corrupted downloaded file.
[02:16] <[ifr0g] > phyeradmin, sudo apt-get clean
[02:16] <[ifr0g] > should clear that.
[02:16] <jacob> ifr0g: my disk tray is open but it doesn't want to close
[02:16] <phyeradmin> i guess...i cant even be sure if it even installed
[02:16] <phyeradmin> ok thanks
[02:16] <jacob> i write that command in the terminal, the one you just sent me and it doesn't go
[02:16] <[ifr0g] > jacob, run the command i just said above^
[02:17] <jacob> i did
[02:17] <BluesKaj> phyeradmin: have you tried , sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a ?
[02:17] <phyeradmin> whats that?
[02:17] <jacob> ifr0g, i did
[02:17] <BluesKaj> unlocks a stalled install
[02:18] <phyeradmin> hmm, lemme try that
[02:18] <[ifr0g] > jacob,  does it happen on any other os ?
[02:18] <[ifr0g] > distro*
[02:19] <jacob> ifr0g, before i had windows and it worked fine, after installing linux about a month ago it also worked fine, but i suspect is a software issue cause i don't see how it could be a hardware problem
[02:20] <jacob> if i hold the disk tray closed, it reads cds
[02:20] <nicolas> jacob: maybe if you open the drive you will see
[02:20] <squirrel> how would I be able to improve wireless speed
[02:21] <squirrel> in Windows, it's fast. but in Ubuntu it's slow
[02:21] <squirrel> I disabled ipv6
[02:21] <squirrel> still not much improvement
[02:21] <[ifr0g] > squirrel, how fast ?
[02:21] <squirrel> it takes more than a minute to load some pages
[02:22] <jacob> ifr0g: it says "unable to mount media.  there is probably no media in the drive"
[02:22] <[ifr0g] > squirrel, i would not blame the wifi for that.
[02:22] <phyeradmin> that phython package is still preventing me from getting anything else
[02:22] <squirrel> looking at iwconfig bit rate shows 11 MB/s but waiting for web page to load is painful
[02:22] <phyeradmin> at 1st it was both the main python file and the DEV on...now its just the main file
[02:23] <phyeradmin> so they MUST know its jacked up right?!
[02:24] <[ifr0g] > phoenixz, sudo apt-get install -f
[02:24] <[ifr0g] > jacob, its some how reading the disk when its ejected.
[02:25] <squirrel> anybody who has solved slow wireless problem in ubuntu?
[02:25] <[ifr0g] > and not closing it as a busy signal.
[02:25] <[ifr0g] > squirrel, pls, transfer a file to check its real speed.
[02:25] <arenner> When installing ubuntu, can I make the installation a fairly barebones kde install, or am I forced to install a bunch of other stuff like openoffice?
[02:25] <jacob> ifr0g: i'm using a laptop, the disk tray is open, but when i hold it closed (even though it doesn't lock) it reads the cd, but not fully closed
[02:25] <BluesKaj> phyeradmin: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:26] <squirrel> how do I transfer a file
[02:26] <jacob> ifr0g: when i hold it closed it reads cds
[02:26] <[ifr0g] > squirrel, over ftp or samba ..etc localy...
[02:26] <BluesKaj> phyeradmin: you have to relogin , afterwards
[02:26] <ardchoille> squirrel: Transfer? From a folder to a folder? Device to device? Computer to computer?
[02:27] <squirrel> I am talking about Internet download and upload
[02:27] <squirrel> I think local transfer is fast
[02:27] <intelikey> jacob sounds like you are describing broken hardware
[02:27] <squirrel> haven't fully checked yet. got this machine only yesterday
[02:27] <ardchoille> squirrel: You can do ftp transfers with konqueror
[02:27] <squirrel> ok
[02:27] <[ifr0g] > squirrel, then download something.. and notice the speed.
[02:27] <[ifr0g] > squirrel, it should be at your max download.
[02:28] <phyeradmin> BluesKaj: ok, doing it now
[02:28] <squirrel> where is konqueror?
[02:29] <elite101> anybody know a good set of icons that are like black/really dark? i know there is a website but just from your experience wich one u tried is good?
[02:29] <squirrel> i can try adding a program
[02:29] <intelikey> squirrel alt+f2 konqueror  enter
[02:29] <[ifr0g] > elite101, kubuntu has similar ones in the settings.
[02:29] <Roey> hi all
[02:29] <intelikey> squirrel it's in the kmenu alos
[02:29] <intelikey> also
[02:29] <Roey> will KDE4 make it into Gutsy Gibbon?
[02:30] <intelikey> Roey not as default
[02:30] <jacob> intelikely, you could be right but i just don't see how it could be hardware
[02:30] <Roey> intelikey:  (if it'll ship by then even?)
[02:30] <Roey> intelikey:  it's slated for October
[02:30] <[ifr0g] > elite101, called monochrome
[02:30] <elite101> okay
[02:30] <intelikey> Roey no.
[02:30] <BluesKaj> not right away
[02:30] <elite101> in apperance?
[02:30] <Roey> intelikey:  k
[02:30] <[ifr0g] > elite101, yes
[02:30] <jacob> intelikely, i had a similar situation where my disk tray was open and din'
[02:30] <intelikey> Roey it is "supposed" to be in the repos but not as the defaultd
[02:30] <squirrel> didn't find konqueror
[02:31] <jacob> didn't want to close, when i shut down the computer i was able to close it
[02:31] <Roey> intelikey:  ok
[02:31] <[ifr0g] > Roey, i dought it..
[02:31] <elite101> also was wondering what kubuntu multimedia software supports .avi? tried caffeine and it doesnt work, dont need CODECS just wanna know what one supports it off that bat?
[02:31] <intelikey> squirrel kmenu > networking > konqueror
[02:32] <[ifr0g] > Roey, they both will be out in stable at preety close date releases, no time for testing .. Would be my guess.
[02:32] <intelikey> jacob try this then;     sudo eject     then close the tray
[02:32] <squirrel> I don't have kmenu. it's ubuntu - gnome 2.18.1
[02:33] <bharath> does anyone wanna help me with a simple command line problem i'm facing? it's to do with grep and tee
[02:33] <intelikey> jacob if that works it's not hardware,   if it doesn't clear it up   then it still could be.
[02:33] <[ifr0g] > bharath, shoot !
[02:33] <BluesKaj> elite101:  xine and gstreamer
[02:33] <squirrel> which group would konqueror to be under to add the program?
[02:34] <intelikey> bharath you're playing my song
[02:34] <bharath> i'm trying to capture all the http GET requests that go out of my machine. so I run this:
[02:34] <bharath> sudo tshark -i eth0 | grep 'HTTP GET'
[02:34] <bharath> and it works fine
[02:34] <[ifr0g] > ok
[02:34] <bharath> but if I try to capture the same using 'tee' like this, it doesn't work:
[02:34] <bharath> sudo tshark -i eth0 | grep 'HTTP GET' | tee out.txt
[02:35] <bharath> there's nothing that comes out of the console and there's nothing in the out.txt file
[02:35] <intelikey> bbarath and it can't write to the file out.tct cause you don't have permission ?
[02:35] <Silent_G> BluesKaj, smb4k is telling me for a user and password for DARKNESS(my computer/domain name)
[02:35] <intelikey> out.txt
[02:35] <bharath> i don't get any errors
[02:36] <bharath> also if i try the same tee without the 'grep' middleman, it works
[02:36] <bharath> strange
[02:36] <phyeradmin> BluesKaj: still no luck
[02:36] <intelikey> bbarath what version ?   i'll do some testing.
[02:36] <phyeradmin> now its saying something called scrollkeeper is broken
[02:36] <bharath> ubuntu, fiesty
[02:37] <BluesKaj> Silent_G: sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbmnt , and then, sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbumount
[02:37] <Silent_G> :o
[02:37] <Silent_G> Ok
[02:37] <BluesKaj> phyeradmin:  have you tried to isolate the package that's causing the trouble ?
[02:38] <phyeradmin> its phython...its in the adept updates
[02:38] <phyeradmin> or rather its the python update
[02:38] <intelikey> bharath test this and see if it says anything: sudo tshark -i eth0 | grep 'HTTP GET' | tee /dev/stderr
[02:38] <phyeradmin> is'nt there a way to take an update off your lists?
[02:38] <[ifr0g] > bharath, yes, i am installin tshark to try it ;)
[02:39] <phyeradmin> I tried to take it off but it wont go anywhere
[02:39] <bharath> intelikey: i tried that.. no error
[02:39] <bharath> just this ->
[02:39] <intelikey> bharath any output ?
[02:39] <bharath> Capturing on eth0
[02:39] <bharath> no output too, still the same problem
[02:40] <intelikey> only one line ?      sounds like stderr rather than stdout is being used
[02:40] <squirrel> download rate is 630 byte to 13.7 kb per second maximum
[02:40] <squirrel> i just installed ark program. could not find konqueror in this ubuntu
[02:41] <BluesKaj> try to purge it in the konsole . sudo apt-get remove --purge 'application' , or you could try to use synaptic/edit/fix broken packages/apply
[02:41] <intelikey> bharath test this: echo boo | grep boo | tee /dev/stderr
[02:41] <bharath> when i try this: sudo tshark -i eth0 | tee out.txt
[02:41] <bharath> it works
[02:41] <phyeradmin> BluesKaj: its Python2.5
[02:41] <squirrel> it should be downloading at least few hundred kb per second
[02:41] <bharath> somehow adding the grep inbetween causes the issue
[02:41] <bharath> ok, i'll try it
[02:42] <bharath> i get:
[02:42] <bharath> boo
[02:42] <bharath> boo
[02:42] <squirrel> XP has the speed of almost 1MPps
[02:42] <elite101> wow everything i changed is all black :S lol
[02:42] <phyeradmin> when I was 1st having this problem, it was Python2.5 & Python2.5 dev...but this time its just the Python 2.5 that gave me the issues that made me come in here for help
[02:43] <BluesKaj> phyeradmin:  then try to purge it out and then reinstall after relogging in
[02:43] <phyeradmin> how do i purge it?
[02:44] <phyeradmin> plus, if I tried to reinstall it, would'nt the same thing happen?
[02:44] <x_link> sudo aptitude purge filename
[02:44] <intelikey> bharath one proceedure for trubble shooting a pipe is to start at the end and remove joints:    i.e.   {tshark -i eth0 | grep 'HTTP GET' | tee out.txt ; } && {tshark -i eth0 | grep 'HTTP GET' ; } && {tshark -i eth0 ; }           this (typo king) often finds the error in a transopsition of chars...
[02:44] <phyeradmin> bare with me...i REALLY having a time learning this linux stuff
[02:44] <intelikey> aka  pebcak
[02:46] <intelikey> bharath the   boo;boo;  proved that you can pipe into grep then into tee without complications... so i sujest you look at the command you entered again
[02:46] <[ifr0g] > bharath, :)
[02:46] <bharath> okay
[02:46] <bharath> yes ifrog
[02:46] <bharath> thanks a bunch intelikey
[02:47] <intelikey> no problem
[02:47] <[ifr0g] > bharath, what worked ?
[02:47] <bharath> nope i did not work yet... but i got some ideas
[02:47] <intelikey> [ifr0g]  echo boo | grep boo | tee /dev/stderr
[02:47] <bharath> adding the grep somehow causes the issue, if i removed that, the tee works fine
[02:47] <elite101> when u do a install of kubuntu, mine says cannot access security updates? i think its because i reinstall kubuntu without an internet connection using the livecd?
[02:47] <bharath> and adding the grep without the tee works fine too
[02:48] <bharath> just the both together don't work
[02:48] <[ifr0g] > bharath, well the solution is to use fgrep
[02:48] <intelikey> bharath grep and tee work togather   you just said they did
[02:48] <phyeradmin> BlueKaj: You there?
[02:48] <BluesKaj> yup
[02:48] <phyeradmin> how do I do that purge?
[02:48] <phyeradmin> and you said to reinstall python
[02:48] <bharath> nope, this doesn't work -> sudo tshark -i eth0 | grep 'HTTP GET' | tee out.txt
[02:48] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get remove --purge 'application'
[02:49] <phyeradmin> my question was: if its messed up wont reinstalling make the sae thing happen?
[02:49] <bharath> but if i just remove the tee, the grep works fine
[02:49] <[ifr0g] > bharath, sudo tshark -i eth0 | fgrep 'HTTP GET' | tee out.txt
 i get:  <bharath> boo  <bharath> boo  <<< meaning that tee outputted boo and wrote it to stderr thus two boo's from one      echo boo | grep boo | tee /dev/stderr
[02:49] <elite101> is there a screen capture program for kubuntu? i have used HyperCam2 but its only for windows (yes i used it under WINE)
[02:49] <BluesKaj> phyeradmin: you can purge apps in Adept as well
[02:50] <bharath> hey, fgrep works instead of grep
[02:50] <bharath> great!
[02:50] <adenicio> bharath: u know about kopete?
[02:51] <elite101> will msn work under WINE?
[02:51] <[ifr0g] > Night all..
[02:51] <[ifr0g] > its been nice after so long to chat here :)
[02:51] <[ifr0g] > Bye.
[02:51] <elite101> Does msn work under wine?
[02:51] <intelikey> bharath now use the up arrow to make the same command again but use the left arrow and possision the cursor at the f in fgrap and hit [del]   [enter]      see if it works...
[02:52] <BluesKaj> elite101:  why don't use windows then :)
[02:52] <elite101> lol just wondering?
[02:52] <phyeradmin> BluesKaj: ok...I THINK that may have did it
[02:52] <elite101> i use kopete but just wondering if it works?
[02:52] <phyeradmin> and you also said, "reinstall it"?
[02:52] <BluesKaj> amsn in linux elite101
[02:52] <bharath> adenicio: yaaa? why do ya ask?
[02:52] <elite101> yeah
[02:53] <elite101> was wondering if the new msn 8.0/8.1 works in kubuntu using wine?
[02:53] <BluesKaj> phyeradmin:  not sure if you should, maybe a nolder versdion that won't break ?
[02:53] <bharath> intelikey: i did that... and grep doesn't work, fgrep does
[02:53] <adenicio>  how to sign log out of kopete(mns) to log back in a different name?
[02:53] <bharath> just changed that one char
[02:53] <BluesKaj> are you using python for media stuff , phyeradmin ?
[02:54] <intelikey> bharath would you care to pastebin the output from both tests please   and file a bug on grep
[02:54] <bharath> okay, guess what, grep works too... only it takes longer to get the output
[02:54] <phyeradmin> BluesKaj: no, i was'nt using it all...see, this is a FRESH install
[02:54] <bharath> wonder why
[02:55] <phyeradmin> all I did was tried to run the updates
[02:55] <ice9_> whats the command to find my local ip
[02:55] <phyeradmin> and it gets to that and BOOM, falls apart
[02:55] <BluesKaj> phyeradmin: strange ...
[02:55] <temuchin> ifconfig
[02:55] <phyeradmin> but when I look at it, its an UPDATE
[02:55] <intelikey> bharath the time involved is tshark related    or what ever app it was,  not grep not tee
[02:55] <BluesKaj> phyeradmin: which updates ?
[02:56] <BluesKaj> phyeradmin:  adept notifier ?
[02:56] <bharath> adenicio: u mean a diff. alias like in yahoo? sorry, i've not used msn that much with kopete
[02:56] <phyeradmin> so python i assume IS already insstallled when you install Kubuntu its perhaps the UPDATE of it thats jacked up
[02:56] <phyeradmin> yes adept notifier
[02:56] <bharath> intelikey: must be. <slappin my forehead> :)
[02:57] <intelikey> :)
[02:58] <BluesKaj> thought so , phyeradmin , don't use it ...it breaks after 1 or2 tries...dump it and use "sudo apt-get update"
[02:58] <intelikey> it sure is hard to say "i typod that, and the only error was pebcak"   isn't it
[02:58] <phyeradmin> ok
[02:59] <Jacob88> hwo do i make firefox i installed on this account available on the other account
[02:59] <phyeradmin> BluesKaj: ok, its running
[02:59] <sedeki> Jacob88 how did you install firefox?
[02:59] <Jacob88> the apt-get thing
[02:59] <intelikey> Jacob88 a symlink maybe ?
[02:59] <sedeki> Jacob88 it should be installed for all user accounts.
[02:59] <Jacob88> someone gave me the command to get it and it did it automatically
[02:59] <phyeradmin> BluesKaj:...aaand it crashed in a blaze of glory too
[02:59] <BluesKaj> phyeradmin: the updates are drawn from the sources called repositories ... you can add the repositories to your sources list which apt and adept use to update packages from
[02:59] <intelikey> oh you did with apt     then it is avalable
[03:00] <Jacob88> lemme go make sure
[03:01] <BluesKaj> !repositories | phyeradmin
[03:01] <ubotu> phyeradmin: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:02] <phyeradmin> ok, BluesKaj thank you very much but its apparent whatever that is, it has my system jacked up now...so im just gonna put pclinux back on here
[03:02] <phyeradmin> at least that did'nt give me gruff like this
[03:02] <phyeradmin> thanks again and have a good evening
[03:03] <intelikey> what = gruff
[03:04] <intelikey> [ $what = gruff ]  && answer
[03:04] <BluesKaj> greif i think ...no patience
[03:05] <bob_sinclair> i have serious issues with 2.6.20-16-386 kernel on two installations. seems common?
[03:05] <s0nix> hello
[03:05] <namol> hi
[03:05] <BluesKaj> never heard of python breaking a setup , but there's always a first time
[03:05] <intelikey> bob_sinclair then may i sujest you file a bug and don't use that version
[03:05] <s0nix> quelqu'un ....... dite moi comment faire disparaite le temps d'un video dans kaffeine qui est en haut a gauche de l'image ... jen ai marre et je trouve pas lol
[03:06] <Dragnslcr> !fr | s0nix
[03:06] <ubotu> s0nix: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:06] <intelikey> BluesKaj well seeing that kde is more or less py based  it might have
[03:06] <BluesKaj> !fr | s0nix
[03:06] <bob_sinclair> intelikey: i shall, just wondering if other people have it, because it is the same on both my installs which are totally different hardware
[03:06] <bob_sinclair> after applying latest kernel update
[03:06] <BluesKaj> oops slow on the draw tonite :)
[03:07] <Dragnslcr> I can almost translate that, too
[03:07] <s0nix> oups, sorry
[03:07] <intelikey> bob_sinclair i'm using the LTS so i wouldn't know,  but it's not the first update that broke things.
[03:07] <bob_sinclair> ok thanks mate
[03:07] <intelikey> np
[03:08] <voidmage> anyone know how to make a program use two cores so it runs faster?
[03:08] <voidmage> because right now it's only using one it looks like
[03:08] <BluesKaj> intelikey:  it's that damn adept notifier ...it doesn't track updates well enuff and ends up conflicting and breaking packages
[03:09] <bob_sinclair> !beryl
[03:09] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:09] <flaccid> !beryl
[03:09] <intelikey> BluesKaj ah.  yeah i never have liked automatic update anything
[03:10] <voidmage> i only use adept to tell me when updates are available
[03:10] <bharath> intelikey: i did some more testing and there seems to be an issue again
[03:10] <voidmage> the tray icon thing  is handy
[03:10] <voidmage> i still do my package management from the shell
[03:10] <bharath> i have two command windows open:
[03:10] <bharath> one has -> sudo tshark -i eth0 | grep 'HTTP GET /access/' | tee out.txt
[03:10] <bharath> two has -> sudo tshark -i eth0 | grep 'HTTP GET /access/'
[03:10] <voidmage> that does what?
[03:11] <BluesKaj> yup, well is till use adept in some cases but only to installa specific app, not update
[03:11] <bharath> the second window always shows up if something matching the grep comes up
[03:11] <bharath> but the frirst window does not
[03:11] <voidmage> on my desktop i have three open: one building things, one that i launch things from, and another i don't use
[03:11] <bharath> it does sometimes, and not sometimes
[03:11] <bharath> that's why i had initially thought that fgrep works instead of grep
[03:11] <voidmage> on my laptop i have three: ssh to desktop, launching things, and a program running
[03:13] <intelikey> bharath ummm wait.   does tshark run and then display output or does it keep running and return as per access ?   cause any pipe is going to want to wait until all the data is avalable to write to the next app...
[03:14] <bharath> tshark keeps running and as and when something comes up, it shows
[03:14] <bharath> ok, i now see that what comes in the second windows comes up in the first one thought after maybe 2 mins
[03:14] <Jacob88> noob question
[03:15] <Jacob88> what butons bring up proccess watcher, like control+alt+delete in windows
[03:15] <intelikey> bharath because it's waiting for the rest of the output.....
[03:15] <bharath> but the only diff. is the addition of the tee command in the first one... so maybe it waits for blocks of stuff to come?
[03:15] <Jacob88> so i can terminate a prog
[03:15] <event_ide> I can't seem to get Beryl working.  Can anyone link me to a tutorial?
[03:15] <intelikey> bharath yes each pipe will slow that down
[03:16] <Jacob88> anyone?
[03:16] <dranas> is it recomended i upgrade my ati drivers when new ones come out?
[03:16] <intelikey> Jacob88 ctrl+alt+esc
[03:16] <intelikey> ?
[03:17] <intelikey> dranas i personally don't recommend upgrading anything that is working correctly...  but that's just me
[03:18] <event_ide> anyone familiar with Beryl?
[03:18] <dranas> if i upgrade and blow up my computer, how do i reset the drivers from konsole?
[03:18] <intelikey> and for the record  a security update that patches an exploit  proves that it wasn't working "correctly"   so you can excuse that.
[03:19] <bharath> the the second level pipe (grep) immediately shows when that match occurs
[03:19] <intelikey> dranas you mean console ?    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:19] <adenicio> !apache
[03:19] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:19] <bharath> just this tee slows it down that much?
[03:19] <bharath> that's strange
[03:19] <Geekosaur> I agree with intelikey.  If it ain't broke, don't fix it unless you need a new feature or something.  Notice need not want, but that is just me, and I'm just a dumb newf.
[03:20] <dranas> thank you
[03:20] <intelikey> bharath and if you piped that into another pipe it would probably make you think it wasn't working at all
[03:20] <BluesKaj> Geekosaur: agreed ,but not about the newfie part :)
[03:21] <Geekosaur> Thank, BluesKa, I appreciate the vote of confidence.
[03:21] <SonhadorPR> hello all: How can I access my NTFS Windows HDDs and files????
[03:22] <BluesKaj> Geekosaur:  when grows up in a place like Sudbury , one can empathize :)
[03:22] <Geekosaur> SonhadorPR, where are they located?
[03:23] <intelikey> bharath a test on that.    cat /dev/urandom | od | grep -wo '171365' | tee /dev/null            next try:   cat /dev/urandom | od | grep -wo '171365'
[03:23] <Geekosaur> BluesKa, you mean that place with no trees, just like home, where growing rocks is a profession :)
[03:24] <SonhadorPR> Geek: I have 2 HDDs, the normal C drive with the WinXP, and the E Drive with half NTFS for backup and half kubuntu
[03:24] <BluesKaj> yup, Geekosaur
[03:24] <intelikey> bharath the pipe to tee is simply waiting on the  EOF   albeit it will do some writing if you wait...
[03:24] <Geekosaur> Are they SATA or IDE?
[03:25] <SonhadorPR> IDE
[03:25] <SonhadorPR> Geek: the thing is that Ubuntu used to read them automatically, and had a link for them in the Desktop, now that I migrated to kubuntu, they are not there..
[03:25] <intelikey> the C drive and the E drive    heh
[03:26] <Geekosaur> typ[e "mount" in a console and see if you can see them.
[03:26] <SonhadorPR> ok
[03:26] <SonhadorPR> let me see..
[03:26] <lewix> hi people
[03:26] <Geekosaur> Intelikey, we all started somewhere...
[03:27] <Minataku> Heh
[03:27] <Juz_moi> I'm reading something that mentions /etc/rc.conf  I can't find it, does kubuntu use something different?
[03:27] <Minataku> My external volumes are mounted under /ext/? where ? is C, D or E
[03:27] <hasan> rm: cannot remove directory `found.000//dir0000.chk/.frostwire/Incomplete': File exists
[03:27] <hasan> what does that mean ?
[03:27] <hasan> while removing file file exists where ??
[03:27] <hasan> in trash :)?
[03:28] <SonhadorPR> .Geek...it gave me a list of things...but I don know ehat I looking at
[03:28] <Biovore> that sounds like a windows error..
[03:28] <Geekosaur> C D E are Windows identifiers for drives.  We prefer real addresses in Linux/Unix, etc.
[03:28] <pyrotix> I'm running the X-server configuration tool and it is stuck at an "OK." Am I just supposed to type enter to make it go on (it won't)?
[03:28] <pyrotix> in Konsole
[03:28] <SonhadorPR> Ill give you the list...hold on...
[03:29] <bharath> intelikey: was away.. ok, lemme try all those
[03:29] <SonhadorPR> first line ->   /dev/hdb2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[03:29] <mauro_> hello everyone! im trying to set up cpufrequtils, but i need to know what module i have to load
[03:29] <mauro_> how can i find out which module i need?
[03:29] <SonhadorPR> second line -->>  proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[03:29] <BluesKaj> pyrotix: yes
[03:29] <soulrider> hi intelikey, long time no see
[03:29] <SonhadorPR> third line -->  /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[03:30] <SonhadorPR> 4th line -->  varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
[03:30] <Geekosaur> Tell me what it has thhat are actually drives, they should have a line like /dev/hda1/ is mounted as ...
[03:30] <intelikey> SonhadorPR     cat "/proc/partitions" | curl -i -F 'code2=<-' -F poster=$USER -F paste=Send http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/pastebin.php 2>/dev/null | grep '^Location' | cut -d':' -f2- | tr -d ' '
[03:30] <bharath> intelikey: yep, the one without the tee works immediately
[03:30] <bharath> but tee takes its own sweet time :)
[03:30] <intelikey> SonhadorPR drop that in a konsole and show me what it says back
[03:31] <BluesKaj> think it's time for a Tee break :)
[03:31] <SonhadorPR> 5th line-->  varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
[03:31] <SonhadorPR> intel: all those lines, al together, ??
[03:32] <intelikey> bharath sorry i was slow about seeing what was happening to ya
[03:32] <intelikey> SonhadorPR yes one line
[03:32] <SonhadorPR> ok
[03:32] <SonhadorPR> nothing happened
[03:32] <neusonce>  hey guys whats the name of the package i need to get to enbale "tor" package, its the package im led to believe enables  my to seach the web anonymously ?
[03:33] <intelikey> SonhadorPR you copied and pasted that as one single command ???    and it did nothing ?
[03:35] <intelikey> !info tor
[03:35] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1.26-1 (feisty), package size 806 kB, installed size 1740 kB
[03:35] <SonhadorPR> intel: yes...nothing happened
[03:36] <killown> I dont to get tcl-dev in the apt-get I need add any repository ?
[03:36] <hasan> how can i start up kmail on startup ?
[03:36] <intelikey> SonhadorPR ok pastebin the output of:   cat /proc/partitions /etc/fstab
[03:36] <intelikey> !paste | SonhadorPR
[03:36] <ubotu> SonhadorPR: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:37] <SonhadorPR> ok...let me do that..hold on...
[03:37] <intelikey> !find tcl-dev
[03:37] <ubotu> Found: libpgtcl-dev, plplot-tcl-dev
[03:38] <intelikey> hasan that's all there is by that name ^
[03:38] <SonhadorPR> here it is --> 31863/
[03:38] <Geekosaur> Sorry Folks it's past my bedtime - Us senior citizens have our limits.  Enjoy!!
[03:38] <intelikey> SonhadorPR full url is nice...
[03:38] <hasan> intelikey???
[03:39] <SonhadorPR> sorry....the one you gave me.... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31863/
[03:39] <intelikey> hasan see ubotu
[03:39] <intelikey> SonhadorPR yes looking.  give me a sec
[03:39] <SonhadorPR> take your time...
[03:39] <SonhadorPR> her for the long haul, until I can access my Windows files...
[03:39] <SonhadorPR> thanx
[03:40] <bharath> intelikey: no problem :)
[03:40] <hasan> whereis ubotu?
[03:40] <hasan> what's that ? im a newbie
[03:41] <[ifr0g] > hasan, ITs a BOT !
[03:41] <[Apollo] > How can you type in an arbitrary ASCII character? Like when you hit ALT and enter a number on the numpad in Windows?
[03:41] <intelikey> SonhadorPR that's not the output of the command i gave.    <intelikey> SonhadorPR ok pastebin the output of:   cat /proc/partitions /etc/fstab
[03:42] <root___> hello?
[03:42] <soulrider> [Apollo] : i dont have any idea either :P
[03:42] <root___> cool, this works
[03:42] <soulrider> hi root___
[03:42] <root___> for some random reason, my keyboard quit working in KDE
[03:42] <[Apollo] > :P
[03:42] <soulrider> root___: i suggets you change your name :P type /nick <new name>
[03:42] <soulrider> including the  /
[03:42] <SonhadorPR> I copied the whole thing like you said...I asked if it was all the lines..
[03:42] <SonhadorPR> ok..Il do it again...
[03:42] <intelikey> SonhadorPR you still aren't reading what i'm writing
[03:43] <[Apollo] > can you consider this a security threat? letting everyone in an IRC room know that you logged in as root--given that this is prolly the reason for the nick? :P
[03:43] <intelikey> cat /proc/partitions /etc/fstab   <<<<< that command SonhadorPR
[03:43] <SonhadorPR> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31864/
[03:43] <[Apollo] > hi intelikey
[03:43] <SonhadorPR> I just did it...
[03:43] <intelikey> [Apollo] 
[03:44] <[Apollo] > ya?
[03:44] <pacman> maybe, but all you'll get if you hack my system is a bunch of porn...haha
[03:44] <[Apollo] > lol
[03:44] <pacman> anyhow, any idea how to get my keyboard to work on KDE again?  I looked and could find an auto-detect feature
[03:44] <intelikey> SonhadorPR ok much better,  now give me just a minute and i'll tell you how to set that up
[03:45] <SonhadorPR> ok Intel: thanx
[03:45] <pacman> I even tried another keyboard, and it still wouldn't work
[03:46] <bharath> intelikey: is there a way to force tee to process stuff in realtime instead of waiting for the EOF>?
[03:46] <[Apollo] > pacman: I so much like to help you, but I'm like a total newbie myself. I consider myself lucky if I figure something out.
[03:46] <intelikey> bharath you could just dump the grep to a file and parse as needed
[03:46] <[Apollo] > I'd*
[03:47] <pacman> *nods*
[03:47] <bharath> yep, i tried that, but looks like even the dump doesn't dump in real time... maybe i'm wrong, i'll check it out again
[03:47] <[Apollo] > how come it doesn't work? does it not respond anymore? or does it not work like it should?
[03:48] <pacman> it doesn't respond at all
[03:48] <pacman> it was working fine, then all of a sudden, it quit working
[03:48] <thelostbyte_> pacman, what quite working?
[03:49] <pacman> my keyboard, lostbyte
[03:49] <pacman> my keyboard, ifroog
[03:49] <pacman> heh
[03:50] <[ifroog] > pacman, laptop ?
[03:50] <pacman> no, desktop
[03:50] <pacman> I tried another keyboard, and restarted, and tried everything I could think of.
[03:50] <[ifroog] > pacman, so the other keyboard also did not work ?
[03:50] <hitmanWilly> pacman: usb or ps2?
[03:50] <pacman> ps2
[03:50] <pacman> no, it didn't work
[03:51] <bharath> intelikey: yep, its the same problem with just redirecting to an output file too
[03:51] <bharath> it doesn't write to the file immediately
[03:51] <bharath> just like with the tee
[03:51] <hitmanWilly> pacman: it may be an issue with the controller, you may want to try a usb one
[03:51] <SonhadorPR> so, pacman, how are you writting at the moment??
[03:52] <[ifroog] > pacman, feisty?
[03:52] <pacman> I logged into console from the login screen, and downloaded bitchx
[03:52] <pacman> yeah, ifroog
[03:52] <hitmanWilly> pacman: oh, this is just in X?
[03:52] <pacman> yeah
[03:52] <SonhadorPR> oic
[03:53] <SonhadorPR> its on the X, not the console...interesting
[03:53] <hitmanWilly> pacman: it may be an issue with kubuntu's keyboard layout then
[03:53] <hitmanWilly> pacman: s/kubuntu/kde
[03:53] <intelikey> SonhadorPR make your fstab look like that
[03:53] <pacman> I'd have to leave here to try any suggestions
[03:53] <SonhadorPR> whats the fstab?
[03:53] <[ifroog] > pacman, press shift for 5 secs does a window pop up ?
[03:53] <intelikey> SonhadorPR then issue the command     sudo mount -a
[03:54] <pacman> no, ifroog
[03:54] <intelikey> SonhadorPR /etc/fstab   file that tells the system how to mount the fs's
[03:54] <intelikey> fstab = file system table
[03:54] <SonhadorPR> INTEL: OK..SO HOW DO i EDIT IT?
[03:54] <SonhadorPR> sorry for the locks
[03:55] <intelikey> bharath i may have an option for you,     dd
[03:55] <SonhadorPR> <-- newbie here, you gotta go step-by-step
[03:55] <intelikey> SonhadorPR kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[03:55] <SonhadorPR> ok..let me do that...
[03:55] <intelikey> SonhadorPR or sudo nano /etc/fstab     or heck just  sudo cp SonhadorPR /etc/fstab
[03:56] <bharath> intelikey: lookin at the man for it
[03:56] <SonhadorPR> ok..it opened...Il edit it now...
[03:56] <pacman> brb
[03:57] <intelikey> bharath i mention it because one of the logging scripts for ubuntu used something like   dd if=/proc/blah of=/var/log/something bs=1
[03:57] <pacman_> hmm
[03:58] <intelikey> pacman_ killed client without exiting... ?
[03:58] <pacman_> *shrugs*
[03:58] <BluesKaj> what's the procedure to reassign the Caps Lock to Shift or Ctrl or something else that doesn't annoy
[03:58] <bharath> intelikey that's just way over my head :) but i'll give it a try... in the meantime, i'll just dump tsharks output and then do the grep separately
[03:58] <SonhadorPR> intel: it gave me a whole bunch of errors...let me do the pastebin again
[03:59] <SonhadorPR> Intel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31868/
[03:59] <intelikey> SonhadorPR i don't need it.   sudo mkdir -p /media/hda1
[03:59] <pacman_> I'm lost
[03:59] <intelikey> SonhadorPR i don't need it.   sudo mkdir -p /media/hdb1
[04:00] <hitmanWilly> pacman_: still no luck?
[04:00] <pacman_> no
[04:00] <intelikey> SonhadorPR note that's a and b   ^>   sudo mkdir -p /media/hdb1
[04:00] <SonhadorPR> ok...did them both
[04:00] <intelikey> SonhadorPR and sudo mount -a
[04:01] <hitmanWilly> pacman_: did you try mouseing through the options in kcontrol/system settings?
[04:01] <SonhadorPR> Failed to mount '/dev/hda1': Operation not supported
[04:01] <aesebu55> hi, has anyone got chromium bsu to run succesfully of kubuntu?
[04:01] <pacman_> yeah, but I couldn't find anything for 'auto-detect keyboard' or something similar
[04:01] <intelikey> SonhadorPR didn't you install ntfs-3g ?
[04:01] <SonhadorPR> yes
[04:01] <SonhadorPR> earlier..
[04:01] <hitmanWilly> pacman_: try just setting it to a standard 101
[04:01] <intelikey> i thought so
[04:01] <SonhadorPR> that also gave me some errors
[04:02] <intelikey> oh
[04:02] <intelikey> errors installing it ?
[04:02] <pacman_> where do I set it?  I didn't see anything in KDE about setting up a keyboard
[04:02] <SonhadorPR> it told me something about the HPlip..
[04:02] <hitmanWilly> pacman_: hold on, lemme find it
[04:02] <SonhadorPR> that the file I installed to work with my HP all in one PSC
[04:03] <bharath> intelikey: i found a dirty shortcut :)
[04:03] <intelikey> SonhadorPR sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[04:03] <intelikey> bharath k what is it ?
[04:03] <bharath> i just have to kill the tshark process when I'm done  :)
[04:03] <bharath> and the tee dumps the rest of the stuf immediately
[04:03] <intelikey> yeah we knew that
[04:03] <[ifroog] > pacman, could you go into system settings > accessibility  > modifier keys > and disable sticky keys..
[04:04] <intelikey> bharath tshark may have a terminate switch   -l or something
[04:04] <pacman_> okay, let me try that...back in a few
[04:04] <hitmanWilly> pacman_: under regional & language -> Keyboard Layout in system settings
[04:05] <SonhadorPR> intel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31869/
[04:05] <pacman_> okay
[04:05] <bharath> intel i'll look into that
[04:05] <[ifroog] > pacman, and also check if slow keys are not checked under keyboard filters.
[04:06] <intelikey> bharath one could use a while loop and sample with tshark that way too     (speeking of dirty hacks)  while true ;do tshark command here with pipes  & sleep 1 ;killall tshark ;done
[04:06] <dope> i have a makefile with this in it "ifeq ($(UNAME),Linux)" what does that do?
[04:06] <holycow> konversation is MUUUUUUUUUUCH nicer than xchat
[04:07] <holycow> how come kde apps are always so much more featurefull than anything i've ever seen on gnome?
[04:07] <holycow> as much as i like gnome i find this very odd
[04:07] <dope> and this: UNAME := $(shell uname)
[04:07] <bharath> intelikey, ok. but i'm also trying to understand the root cause here. is it because of grep or tshark?
[04:07] <bharath> because if i use just grep without the tee, i get the output in realtime
[04:08] <intelikey> bharath no. it's because of the way the kernel handles pipes
[04:08] <bharath> ohh, ok
[04:08] <Daisuke_Ido> holycow: i don't think konversation has any features xchat doesn't, it all goes back to the basic differences between gnome and kde.  gnome is simplicity through obfuscation.  the customization options are there, but hidden.  in kde, it's all laid out in plain sight :)
[04:08] <bharath> inteli is there any documentation regarding this somewhere?
[04:08] <intelikey> when you have a pipe writting to disk you normally want to wait for the EOF
[04:08] <Daisuke_Ido> not to mention kde apps generally go for a certain "feel" common to most kde apps
[04:08] <bharath> oh ok
[04:08] <holycow> Daisuke_Ido: you may be right
[04:09] <bharath> so only when i try to write to disk this happens, i get it
[04:09] <holycow> i haveto say i think linus was right
[04:09] <intelikey> bharath right
[04:09] <Daisuke_Ido> about what?
[04:09] <holycow> gnome
[04:09] <bharath> make much sense now
[04:09] <Daisuke_Ido> refresh my memory?
[04:09] <intelikey> SonhadorPR ok still with me ?
[04:09] <holycow> he basically said the same thing about gnomes approach that you mentioned
[04:09] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[04:10] <SonhadorPR> yes sir...still waiting for my next set of instructions!!
[04:10] <SonhadorPR> hehehe
[04:10] <intelikey> SonhadorPR does     mount    say the partitions are mounted or not ??
[04:10] <SonhadorPR> I just type mount?
[04:10] <bharath> intel, okay but the tee also writes to the console right? why should that be slow too?
[04:10] <intelikey> SonhadorPR yes
[04:10] <[ifroog] > dope, "ifeq ($(UNAME),Linux)" compares if the output of uname = linux
[04:11] <dope> hmm
[04:11] <[ifroog] > which is true.
[04:11] <dope> right below it it says "release:"
[04:11] <dope> and then some commands
[04:11] <SonhadorPR> intel:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31870/
[04:11] <intelikey> SonhadorPR we can also fix that invoke-rc.d problem with a hack right quick if you want...
[04:11] <[ifroog] > yes, it runs that if the above it true.
[04:11] <dope> well it's outputting it to the console
[04:12] <dope> and i get no executable
[04:12] <SonhadorPR> sure....
[04:13] <intelikey> SonhadorPR ok so it didn't mount...   hmm let me check with someone that uses ntfs-3g on that.   in the mean time...
[04:13] <dope> any ideas
[04:14] <SonhadorPR> ok
[04:14] <[ifroog] > dope, sorry, i have not played with makefiles though.
[04:14] <intelikey> SonhadorPR which invoke-rc.d
[04:14] <intelikey> SonhadorPR that's a konsole command
[04:14] <[Apollo] > dope: do you need help with makefiles?
[04:15] <dope> yea, i'm just trying to use the one that was provided with this sample code to build the project and i'm gettin nowhere
[04:15] <SonhadorPR> I just type that?  invoke-rc.d  ??
[04:16] <[Apollo] > what's not working? and can you can paste it to pastebin or something like that?
[04:16] <intelikey> SonhadorPR            which invoke-rc.d
[04:17] <SonhadorPR>  I have to type which also with it??
[04:17] <dope> yea give me a second
[04:18] <intelikey> SonhadorPR: yes     which invoke-rc.d
[04:18] <SonhadorPR> ok.
[04:18] <jdcnyc> testing1,2...3
[04:18] <SonhadorPR> intel:  /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> jdcnyc: its working ;)
[04:18] <intelikey> SonhadorPR one more time lets try that mount command too.      sudo mount -a
[04:18] <jdcnyc> thanks!
[04:18] <intelikey> SonhadorPR don't forget the sudo.
[04:19] <dope> [Apollo] : http://pastebin.com/m5b48e64d
[04:19] <lewix> hi
[04:20] <lewix> how do I know what kernel I'm using?
[04:20] <lewix> what's the command
[04:20] <SonhadorPR> still the same...logfile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0) Failed to mount /dev/hda1/': Operation not supported
[04:20] <[ifroog] > lewix, uname -r
[04:20] <lewix> thanks
[04:20] <[ifroog] > ;)
[04:21] <[Apollo] > dope: and what is not working? I mean, it seems to work just fine. It's normal that the make process is printing out the commands it is executing. Have you tried running the executable?
[04:22] <dope> it greates no file
[04:22] <dope> well it's not in the same directory
[04:22] <intelikey> SonhadorPR this that "hack" to get your hplip working, it's all one line without  ()  i'm just using them to show where to start and stop  ( sudo mv /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d /root/ ;sudo ln -s /bin/true /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d ;sudo dpkg --configure -a ;sudo rm /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d ;sudo mv /root/invoke-rc.d /usr/sbin/ )
[04:23] <SonhadorPR> ok
[04:23] <[ifroog] > looks like it goes to /dist/release/accsample
[04:23] <[Apollo] > dope: yes, it's in "../../dist/release/accsample"...  so go up 2 directorys, then go to dist, then release and there it should be
[04:24] <[Apollo] > ifroog was faster
[04:24] <[Apollo] > :D
[04:24] <dope> O thanks
[04:24] <jdcnyc> I just installed a new Kubuntu desktop and didn't partition the single hard drive manually. Installed Gparted, but it won't give me the option to resize the configuration. I would reinstall, if I can't think of another option. Any suggestions?
[04:24] <[ifroog] > [Apollo] , but you said it right :D
[04:24] <[Apollo] > heh
[04:25] <SonhadorPR> intel:  it looks like a clean set up..... heres line one -->  Setting up hplip (1.7.3-0ubuntu1) ...
[04:25] <SonhadorPR> line 2 ---> Creating/updating hplip user account...
[04:25] <SonhadorPR> and thats it
[04:25] <Juz_moi> I'm reading something that mentions /etc/rc.conf  I can't find it, does kubuntu use something different?
[04:25] <dope> [Apollo] : what's this mean "accsample: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected"
[04:25] <intelikey> SonhadorPR k
[04:26] <[Apollo] > dope: what did you enter as a command to execute it?
[04:26] <dope> i typed: sh accsample
[04:26] <Minataku> dope: It means that there's an open parenthesis in line 1 that doesn't belong there
[04:26] <nosrednaekim> jdcnyc: so you want to make room on your drive?
[04:26] <SonhadorPR> intel: now what?
[04:26] <nosrednaekim> jdcnyc: from the partition that you are running right now?
[04:26] <jdcnyc>  <nosrednaekim> jdcnyc: so you want to make room on your drive? YES!
[04:26] <hii> hii! my friend did something with his wireless network and now he wants to know how to reset the knetworkmanager
[04:27] <aesebu55> when i try to install the chromuim package it gives the error it needs the data package but when I try to install the dat apackage it complains that it needs the package I just tried to install. What can I do?
[04:27] <nosrednaekim> jdcnyc: so you have only one (or two counting swap) partitions on your disk?
[04:27] <dope> [Apollo] : ami supposed to send it parameters?
[04:27] <intelikey> SonhadorPR let me change the fstab and resend it
[04:27] <jdcnyc> 1 swap parition
[04:27] <SonhadorPR> ok
[04:28] <[ifroog] > hii,  what do you mean by reset ?
[04:28] <[Apollo] > hmm... maybe? just go to the directory and enter ./accsample
[04:28] <[Apollo] > dope
[04:28] <dope> ah ok so i don't type sh then
[04:28] <nosrednaekim> jdcnyc: you need to run the liveCD and use qtparted off of that.  you can't resize a partition thats in use
[04:28] <hii> hii ifroog!  he was fooling around with the manual connections and now the wireless connection isnt showing up on the list
[04:28] <hitmanWilly> dope: only if its not set +x
[04:29] <dope> it's working now
[04:29] <hitmanWilly> dope: then you need the sh
[04:29] <dope> :) thx all
[04:29] <[Apollo] > heh np
[04:29] <dope> i try to remember that hitmanWilly
[04:29] <intelikey> SonhadorPR you remember how to edit that ?
[04:29] <intelikey> SonhadorPR  kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[04:29] <[ifroog] > Any one on edgy, could you check if network-manager is installed ??
[04:29] <jdcnyc>  jdcnyc: you need to run the liveCD and use qtparted  I expected as much and have Gpart LiveCd on hand Thanks!
[04:30] <[ifroog] > dope, :)
[04:30] <SonhadorPR> got it dude....fstabs been re-edited...now what?
[04:30] <hitmanWilly> [ifroog] : it should be, if not you can apt it
[04:30] <SonhadorPR> :)
[04:30] <nosrednaekim> jdcnyc: no problem
[04:30] <intelikey> SonhadorPR   sudo mount -a
[04:30] <SonhadorPR> same error....unclean shutdown...
[04:30] <SonhadorPR> etc..
[04:31] <[ifroog] > hitmanWilly, i dont really get its purpose !
[04:31] <hitmanWilly> [ifroog] : it's a nice little gui for those who are scared of a cli/editing config files :)
[04:32] <[ifroog] > hitmanWilly, ah, thats it !
[04:32] <intelikey> SonhadorPR hmmm ok.   seeing that i don't know that much about ntfs-3g   because i don't do windows,   i'm going to assume that it's an actual fs issue   and sujest you reboot to windows safe mode and chkdisk the partitions
[04:32] <[ifroog] > does it any way, help to bring up interfaces automatically.. on device presence ?
[04:32] <hitmanWilly> [ifroog] : and since it seems to bypass the standard way of networking, it can sometimes cause problems :(
[04:33] <intelikey> SonhadorPR or scandisk or what ever windows uses these days
[04:33] <SonhadorPR> ok...
[04:33] <SonhadorPR> I can do that...
[04:33] <intelikey> SonhadorPR let me know how it turns out
[04:33] <lewix> what's the difference between z2 and gzb
[04:33] <SonhadorPR> but stilllits funny that the Ubuntu was able to open the NTFS HDDs and Kubuntu wont do it...
[04:33] <[ifroog] > hitmanWilly, huh, good.. caused i removed it. and tough that would have been the reason for my wifi acting weird.
[04:33] <lewix> what's the difference between bz2 and gzb*
[04:33] <[ifroog] > but its not.
[04:34] <hitmanWilly> [ifroog] : not that im aware of, but I do mine the old fashioned way
[04:34] <SonhadorPR> ok..Ill be back in an hour or so...
[04:34] <SonhadorPR> thanx for all your help dude!!!
[04:34] <[ifroog] > hitmanWilly, cool ;)ok
[04:34] <dope> i want to give a user the ability to use a command without typing sudo in front of it. how do i do that?
[04:34] <intelikey> SonhadorPR but because ubuntu was opening it and possably not cleanly umounting it....
[04:34] <lewix> what's the difference between *.bz2 and *.gzb ?
[04:34] <jhutchins> lewix: Let's try one more:  .gz and .bz2 maybe?
[04:34] <SonhadorPR> could be.....
[04:34] <hitmanWilly> [ifroog] : as far as wifi, though, im pretty much at a loss, mine worked out of the box and i haven't had to play with it any
[04:34] <intelikey> SonhadorPR that may be why you now have that issue
[04:35] <lewix> jhutchins, yes sir
[04:35] <nosrednaekim> dope: you really can't.... only root can do that, and root is disabled
[04:35] <jhutchins> lewix: Rather obviously, they're different ways of compressing a file.
[04:35] <lewix> ok
[04:35] <intelikey> SonhadorPR don't clap.  just tell me if that fixes it   :)
[04:35] <jhutchins> lewix: gz is gzip, which is a bit faster, bz is significantly slower and slightly smaller.
[04:35] <[ifroog] > hitmanWilly, nice..
[04:35] <dope> what if i need to run a command in a shell script that requires sudo?
[04:36] <lewix> jhutchins, thanks
[04:36] <SonhadorPR> yes...I know exactly what you are saying..a coulpe of days ago...the system(ht eubuntu system) told me that..at the boot...before loading ubuntu, it did a system check, and it told me something about the mounts..
[04:36] <hitmanWilly> [ifroog] : plus i hardly ever use it anyway, have a hardline at the house
[04:36] <jhutchins> lewix: zip, bzip, gzip all slight variations.
[04:36] <jhutchins> lewix: rar, arc, ohh, about a dozen others.
[04:36] <nosrednaekim> dope: run the whole script as sudo
[04:36] <intelikey> jhutchins you use ntfs-3g ?
[04:36] <intelikey> or hitmanWilly ?
[04:36] <lewix> lol
[04:36] <dope> i don't think i can
[04:36] <jhutchins> gzip offers pretty much the best compromise between speed and size.
[04:36] <nosrednaekim> dope: why not?
[04:36] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: not for a LONG time
[04:37] <SonhadorPR> ok...Im on my way to Windows land,....wish me luck....
[04:37] <dope> cause something else is calling it
[04:37] <intelikey> jhutchins depends on what you are compressing
[04:37] <[ifroog] > hitmanWilly, i have a dougle working on ndiswrapper.
[04:37] <dope> like an automated process
[04:37] <nosrednaekim> dope: calling what?
[04:37] <dope> the shell script that needs sudo
[04:37] <hitmanWilly> [ifroog] : intel chipset here :)
[04:37] <jhutchins> intelikey: I never had problems with the original ntfs drivers, and nowadays I don't have NTFS partitions except on my NT server, which solves the problem with samba.
[04:37] <jhutchins> intelikey: Actually, it doesn't.
[04:38] <[ifroog] > intel wireless does rock on linux.
[04:38] <jhutchins> intelikey: Some files compress farther with other formats, but not faster.
[04:38] <[ifroog] > I thinki will get that.
[04:38] <nosrednaekim> dope, I don't get you. If you run the whole script as sudo, anything the script calls with automatically be run with full priveledges
[04:38] <dope> ok i'll see what happens
[04:38] <intelikey> jhutchins well i have some 4+m plain text files that bzip compresses much better at very little time cost
[04:38] <jhutchins> nosrednaekim: I believe you'll find that's not the case.
[04:38] <nosrednaekim> jhutchins: really?
[04:38] <jhutchins> intelikey: Right.  Very little - but some.
[04:39] <intelikey> jhutchins but much smaller
[04:39] <jhutchins> nosrednaekim: If you run a script with sudo, the shell is run as root, but programs within may not be.
[04:39] <nosrednaekim> jhutchins: I've done it before though.....
[04:39] <intelikey> like several houndred k
[04:39] <jhutchins> nosrednaekim: Yes, and I've done it and had it fail.
[04:39] <nosrednaekim> jhutchins: hmmm let me test that out.
[04:40] <[ifroog] > dope, there is a way.. just a sec
[04:41] <nosrednaekim> jhutchins: I just hat it restart cupsys from within a sudoed script...
[04:41] <nosrednaekim> *had
[04:41] <hitmanWilly> nosrednaekim: i think it has to do with how sudo is configured
[04:41] <dope> I GOT IT!
[04:41] <jhutchins> nosrednaekim: I'll bookmark that I need to show you one of the scripts that failed.  Since it failed, I didn't keep it around, but I think I can recreate it.
[04:41] <dope> HOW POINTLESS!
[04:42] <nosrednaekim> hmm, ok, I'd be interested.
[04:42] <nosrednaekim> dope: :)
[04:42] <jhutchins> sure.  There is a difference between sudo and su - though.
[04:42] <dope> i my server to restart itself from an IM
[04:43] <jhutchins> G' nght folks, I should be around some manaa.
[04:43] <Juz_moi> what does the $2 mean in this script line:    sudo /sbin/ifconfig $2 up
[04:43] <hitmanWilly> jhutchins: was it trying to > directly to a file?
[04:43] <nosrednaekim> c ya
[04:43] <intelikey> jhutchins gooday
[04:43] <[ifroog] > dope, got what?
[04:43] <nosrednaekim> Juz_moi: I THINK it means the second variable that should be defined above that.
[04:43] <dope> i got my server to restart itself from an IM
[04:43] <nosrednaekim> dope: sweet
[04:44] <[ifroog] > woo..
[04:44] <hitmanWilly> dope: and extremely dangerous imho :P
[04:44] <intelikey> Juz_moi heh  $2 is the second command line pram
[04:44] <[ifroog] > how ?
[04:44] <dope> i used the aim sdk for linux
[04:44] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: nice to know :)
[04:44] <Juz_moi> in the ifconfig ?
[04:44] <hitmanWilly> im's aren't exactly secure...
[04:44] <nosrednaekim> whats your server's i'm address :)
[04:44] <hitmanWilly> especially over the aim protocol
[04:44] <nosrednaekim> hehe
[04:44] <nosrednaekim> *IM
[04:45] <intelikey> Juz_moi  a script with this line in it   "echo $2"    then call the script like this    myscript blah good blah     will answer back  'good'
[04:45] <Juz_moi> it's from http://mychael.gotdns.com/blog/2007/05/31/virtualbox-bridging/
[04:45] <intelikey> Juz_moi shell scripting is what i do
[04:46] <Juz_moi> god bless u I am clueless about it
[04:46] <intelikey> i just gave you a clue
[04:46] <intelikey> :)
[04:46] <[ifroog] > :D
[04:46] <Juz_moi> go to that page and tell me in relationship to what he's saying there
[04:46] <smax> why does cups recognize my hp printer as a cannon?
[04:47] <hii> does anyone know how to install knetwork from the ubuntu cd? please? =] 
[04:47] <Juz_moi> it's from http://mychael.gotdns.com/blog/2007/05/31/virtualbox-bridging/
[04:47] <nosrednaekim> have to go all bye
[04:47] <smax> and an epson?
[04:47] <intelikey> echo 'echo $2 $1 $3' > myscript ;sh myscript testing im this
[04:47] <hitmanWilly> :)
[04:47] <intelikey> :)
[04:48] <dope> WEW! i got my server to restart itself via text msg!
[04:48] <dope> jesus I'm a nerd
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: beginnings of a yoda translation script :)
[04:48] <ardchoille> lol
[04:48] <intelikey> hitmanWilly :)
[04:49] <ardchoille> hitmanWilly: yoda2text ?
[04:49] <hitmanWilly> why not?
[04:49] <ardchoille> hitmanWilly: oops, that should be yoda2text.sh
[04:49] <hitmanWilly> takes yoda speak from stdin and outputs to stdout
[04:49] <[ifroog] > hii,  dvd ?
[04:50] <hii> ifroog: no, cd
[04:50] <[ifroog] > huh, its its on the cd i think it should be installed already..
[04:50] <hii> ifroog: hes trying to reinstall it
[04:51] <hii> ifroog: he messed it up so now he has to reinstall it or something
[04:51] <intelikey> hitmanWilly heh    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38559
[04:52] <intelikey> hii the "kde" stuff is not on the "ubuntu" cd
[04:52] <ardchoille> intelikey: What does that do?
[04:52] <[ifroog] > oh, i missed that :P
[04:52] <intelikey> ardchoille a very crude encription
[04:53] <hii> intelikey: how do people normally get network support then?
[04:53] <smax> linux is so unreliable
[04:53] <Dr_willis> smax,  really? i find windows to be very very unreliable.
[04:53] <ardchoille> intelikey: Ah
[04:53] <[ifroog] > hii, pls ask gnome related questions at #ubuntu
[04:53] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: ok, that's a little beyond me, but i'll play around with it some :)
[04:53] <intelikey> hii the "ubuntu" cd had the gnome applications.
[04:54] <[ifroog] > they might have gnome apps that do that.
[04:54] <intelikey> hii the kubuntu cd has the kde stuff and the kdenetwork manager
[04:55] <smax> Dr_willis: at least windows recognizes a simple printer sheesh
[04:55] <hii> so i have the cd, so how do i install that? =] 
[04:56] <intelikey> hii i know it's a little confusing seeing that they are the same distro just different DE's  but the install cd is intneded to simply get you started,    and the rest is expected to be "network" everything       i don't agree with the concept but hay     ;/
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: ok, im dumb, i got it figured out now :)
[04:56] <Dr_willis> smax,  yea.. whatever...
[04:57] <[ifroog] > lol
[04:57] <intelikey> hitmanWilly it's inteneded more as a "joke" than anything else,  but if you make two symlinks to the script   ln -s encript myscript ;ln -s decript myscript     then it should actually work.
[04:57] <pacman> *sighs*
[04:58] <smax> Dr_willis: uhh localhost:<cups port>/administration sees my hp printer as both a cannon and a epson
[04:58] <intelikey> ./encript some text here
[04:58] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: for ROT13 level encryption, anyway :P
[04:58] <intelikey> ./decript that output
[04:58] <smax> so fuck it.
[04:58] <smax> im rebooting back to vista
[04:58] <intelikey> hitmanWilly right
[04:59] <Dr_willis> smax,  thats not related to your problem. I recall seeing that befor even with NO printers installed.. Not sure what the deal is. It might be somthing to do with the PDF printing feature
[04:59] <intelikey> too late
[04:59] <Dr_willis> big loss.
[04:59] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:59] <pacman> <[04:59] <[ifroog] > SAD !
[04:59] <Dr_willis> Im still not sure WHY those 2 printers show up on every box i got either. :)
[04:59] <intelikey> heh
[05:00] <hii> k well thank you very much for trying to help me!! <3
[05:00] <Dr_willis> i dont see them in the gnome-cups-manager, but i DO recall seeing them somewhere else.
[05:00] <intelikey> my printer worked just fine until the first update   hasn't worked sense
[05:00] <[ifroog] > well he will be back when he finds out his new web cam doesnot have vistacompatible drivers :P
[05:00] <intelikey> hii don't run off mad.    what exactly do you need ?
[05:00] <hii> im not mad! and im not sure.  lol
[05:01] <intelikey> hii is it wireless wired dialup ???
[05:01] <wellington> hello!
[05:01] <hii> wireless
[05:01] <[ifroog] > hii, what cd do youhave in your hand ?
[05:01] <wellington> kubuntu 7
[05:01] <[ifroog] > lol
[05:01] <intelikey> i was afraid you would say that
[05:01] <hii> kubunto 7.02 whatever from the website
[05:01] <Dr_willis> Under Printer Ports - in the GNome-cups-manager - it says Parallel port #1 Epson, Parrel Port #1 Canon, I dont even Have a printer on this box. :) what gives?
[05:02] <hii> awe!! dont hide! seriously im not mad!
[05:02] <[ifroog] > hii, slip the cd in..
[05:02] <intelikey> !wifi | hii
[05:02] <ubotu> hii: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:02] <[ifroog] > hii, and do ---> sudo apt-cdrom add
[05:02] <intelikey> hii i have nothing wireless here so i haven't tried to learn it.
[05:02] <wellington> i'm using dlink 502g
[05:03] <intelikey> hii yes the   sudo apt-cdrom add   command will let you use any *ubuntu cd's you might have
[05:04] <hii> thank you!! <3
[05:04] <intelikey> hii but i kinda doubt that adding the cd to the repos will help you there....    hope i'm wrong...
[05:04] <hii> weee!
[05:04] <[ifroog] > well it will install all the kde libs beforeitinstalls the manager..
[05:05] <[ifroog] > and on a gnome it will be slow.
[05:05] <[ifroog] > pls, beware.
[05:05] <intelikey> [ifroog]  yeah   but if s/he installed kubuntu that's already installed,  if not then the gnome eq is...
[05:06] <hii> is something supposed to happen now.. ? /cry
[05:06] <intelikey> !wifi | hii
[05:06] <ubotu> hii: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:06] <intelikey>                      ^
[05:06] <hii> k thank you <3
[05:07] <[ifroog] > intelikey, it already comes with feisty what ever it is..
[05:07] <intelikey> we played that game already...  soooo
[05:07] <[ifroog] > and their wonderful network-manager
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[05:08] <dope> i need a program that'll pour me a perfect black and tan
[05:09] <intelikey> Eh gads this cat is having a "fling" with python ....   -:- Pyromancer [i=pyromanc@gateway/tor/x-1c2f0f95a40da1b0]  has joined #kubuntu
[05:09] <intelikey> :)
[05:09] <intelikey> dope hound ?
[05:09] <dope> intelikey: hound?
[05:09] <intelikey> black and tan
[05:09] <intelikey> :)
[05:10] <dope> :?
[05:10] <intelikey> nothing
[05:10] <Dr_willis> Pink and Puce
[05:10] <dope> they mix way too much when i do it
[05:10] <Dr_willis> freeze both halfs solid.
[05:10] <Dr_willis> then stack them up
[05:10] <intelikey> black and tan    is a breed of dog
[05:10] <Dr_willis> Freeze the dogs :) stack them up
[05:10] <intelikey> thus the pun
[05:11] <Dr_willis> 'you might be a redneck if.....'
[05:11] <intelikey> :)
[05:11] <hasan> how guys
[05:11] <intelikey> how hasan
[05:11] <hasan> how can i add extra repos so that i wouldnt dl files again ?
[05:12] <hii> =] 
[05:12] <hasan> whenever i format my pc i restart to dl all the things
[05:12] <hasan> hi
[05:12] <hasan> i just wanted to say hi sorry i havent slept all the night
[05:12] <hii> well hii back!
[05:12] <hasan> sorry about that i have thought about saying  hi and i ve written how :)
[05:13] <hasan> ok now to my question
[05:13] <Dr_willis> hasan,  if you have more then 1 ubuntu box, you can set up one as the apt file 'caching' machine.
[05:13] <intelikey> hasan well i'm on dailup so dling *g is out of the Q   i make a copy of everything that enters /var/cache/apt/archives/   then you only dl that file one time.
[05:14] <hasan> so what do u add /etc/sources.list ?
[05:14] <hasan> where what and how ?
[05:14] <[ifroog] > hansen, you want to add more repos ?? why
[05:14] <intelikey> i add nothing special to /etc/sources.list   just mount another disk on  /var/cache/apt/archives/  thus everything there is safe from reload
[05:15] <hansen> no i dont :)
[05:15] <[ifroog] > yeah, i do the same thing..
[05:15] <intelikey> hansen lol
[05:15] <Dr_willis> I just redownload everything. :)
[05:15] <intelikey> isn't irc a blast !
[05:15] <hii> this is kind of fun i think!
[05:16] <intelikey> Dr_willis but you my friend aren't on dialup.
[05:16] <hii> i have no idea what everyone is talking about =] 
[05:16] <[ifroog] > hii,  stick around :)
[05:16] <hii> k!
[05:16] <intelikey> actually don't you'll end up like the rest of us       run while you still can
[05:17] <hii> haha ,3
[05:17] <[ifroog] > lol
[05:17] <hii> <3
[05:17] <[ifroog] > hii, what is that emotion ?
[05:17] <hii> its a heart
[05:18] <hii> <3
[05:18] <[ifroog] > ah, ok ..
[05:18] <hii> =]  yea
[05:18] <hii> so this is fun! are you guys in here often?
[05:18] <intelikey> we're offtopic often...
[05:18] <intelikey> :)
[05:19] <[ifroog] > I am back after a really long break :) and i will be a regular here.. here after..
[05:19] <intelikey> here here
[05:20] <hii> ill hang out here too then
[05:20] <hii> =] 
[05:20] <intelikey> that that is is that that is not is not
[05:20] <intelikey> ya know
[05:20] <hii> =[   what?
[05:21] <[ifroog] > i i dont dont know know
[05:21] <hii> lol you guys are cute!! <3 im hungry again. =/
[05:21] <intelikey> i C++
[05:23] <hii> no one is saying anything anymore...
[05:24] <redshadowhero> ?
[05:24] <redshadowhero> I wouldn't worry too much.
[05:24] <hii> hii redshadowhero!!
[05:24] <arun> hey kids
[05:24] <intelikey> [ifroog]  maybe i needed to punctuate that for you...   that that is; is that that is not, is not.    if you think about it it's not just a stuttering nonsensical gubberish.
[05:24] <redshadowhero> This is the part when the hero gets chased by the killer
[05:24] <[ifroog] > yes, the silence says that all the kubuntu users are happy !! :)
[05:24] <intelikey> gibberish either
[05:26] <intelikey> [ifroog]  or unable to boot or unable to access the network....
[05:26] <[ifroog] > intelikey, point ! ;D
[05:26] <redshadowhero> hii: hi!
[05:27] <hii> =] 
[05:27] <intelikey> is that hi! all this time i thought that was  h2
[05:27] <arun> heh
[05:27] <hii> lol
[05:27] <redshadowhero> huh?
[05:27] <intelikey> ok i'll quit.
[05:27] <hii> yea! maybe i should change my nickname now!
[05:27] <hii> how do i do that?
[05:28] <intelikey> /nick blah
[05:28] <arun> anyone use evolution here?
[05:28] <[ifroog] > intelikey, kubuntu 20.7 "flying pigs" should have irc through high frequency radio wave support.
[05:28] <intelikey> arun i have used it.   how hard is your Q ?
[05:28] <sadrine> weee! thank you!
[05:28] <redshadowhero> sadrine: you sure are... active...
[05:28] <intelikey> i kinda liked h2...
[05:28] <stoned> hello
[05:28] <redshadowhero> sadrine: that the most explanation points I've seen in a while
[05:29] <sadrine> lol you guys are so fun!!
[05:29] <sadrine> i love it
[05:29] <arun> intelikey: what do you mean
[05:29] <redshadowhero> I'm glad that someone loves my inner computer geek...
[05:29] <intelikey> [ifroog]  thought they decided on    palpatating piglets
[05:29] <hii> k i went back!
[05:30] <hii> brb guys
[05:30] <hii> and girls
[05:30] <ChuckFu> how do I get unbutu to see a USB Device
[05:30] <intelikey> arun i mean if you have a Q about evo, lets hear it.
[05:30] <[ifroog] > incorrect, oh, yeah, that will only come after smelly skunks.
[05:30] <ice9> assholes
[05:30] <[ifroog] > intelikey, ^^
[05:31] <[ifroog] > ice9, and what would be your second name ?
[05:31] <intelikey> [ifroog]  oh...   that's right.   i should have remembered that
[05:31] <ice9> I dont get it
[05:31] <stoned> hey
[05:31] <stoned> bad
[05:31] <arun> intelikey: i'm just trying to decide which client to use. i don't like running thunderbird on linux, don't know why
[05:31] <hii> <3
[05:32] <stoned> less than 3?
[05:32] <ice9> <3
[05:32] <intelikey> arun i now just use fetchmail and Mail
[05:32] <stoned> what is going on in the world
[05:32] <[ifroog] > arun, dont like, or havent tried it ?
[05:32] <ice9> hii is a hottie
[05:32] <stoned> oh i get it
[05:32] <stoned> <3 is bunny ears
[05:32] <stoned> ahaha
[05:32] <hii> its a heart =[
[05:32] <intelikey> arun but that doesn't support html  have to dump to a file and browse if i want to see html stuffff
[05:32] <stoned> what
[05:33] <stoned> oh
[05:33] <Biovore> <3
[05:33] <stoned> well i'll be damned
[05:33] <Biovore> :D
[05:33] <arun> [ifroog]  i love thunderbird on windows, but i've used it on kubuntu as well, and i don't like the way it looks in kubuntu
[05:33] <stoned> I don't like animals
[05:33] <stoned> ew
[05:33] <stoned> but they are adorable
[05:33] <intelikey> redshadowhero +o can change that
[05:33] <stoned> from a distance that is
[05:34] <stoned> same thing with stuff
[05:34] <[Apollo] > lol
[05:34] <stoned> I use kmail
[05:34] <stoned> i ugh.. hate gtk
[05:34] <event_ide> any know how to get Beryl working?
[05:34] <stoned> it is ugly
[05:34] <se7en^Of^9> anybody know how to cp a folder stucture excluding files like .mp3
[05:34] <event_ide> anyone*
[05:34] <stoned> !beryl
[05:34] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:34] <arun> stoned: i agree with you wholeheartedly
[05:34] <redshadowhero> intelikey: +o?
[05:34] <[ifroog] > arun, ah, yes.. but i think you can change that..
[05:34] <Biovore> se7en^Of^9: you can try cp -r
[05:34] <[ifroog] > arun, it has a beautiful theme support
[05:35] <intelikey> redshadowhero oh sorry thought you were someone else...   +o  chan op       the sudo of irc
[05:35] <se7en^Of^9> Biovore: how do i exclude all mp3 files than
[05:35] <ice9> so can anybody tell me whats up with my wireless network not showing up?
[05:35] <arun> stoned: have you tried the latest version of the Flock browser? It is awesome... MUCH better, sweeping improvements to the browser since the last time i tried it. it's replaced firefox as my default browser.. looks great, functions much better, did i mention looks great?
[05:35] <intelikey> !wifi | ice9 i can point you at
[05:35] <stoned> flock?
[05:35] <arun> [ifroog]  all the themes that i liked are available for older versions of tbird only :)
[05:35] <stoned> what is flock my good man
[05:36] <Biovore> se7en^Of^9: cp -r /path/source/*  /path/dest/    that will copy all file in path/source to /path/dest
[05:36] <_mEo> Hi, how can I switch between qwerty and dvorak easily?
[05:36] <arun> stoned: yup. flock
[05:36] <ubotu> ice9 i can point you at: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:36] <arun> stoned: have you ever tried it?
[05:36] <redshadowhero> intelikey: uh.... okay..
[05:36] <stoned> i don't even know what it is
[05:36] <intelikey> ice9 that's all i can do with wifi Q's   hope it helps.
[05:36] <_mEo> Does anyone know how I can do this?
[05:37] <arun> stoned: i wrote about it here, if you're interested: http://themasterplan.in/2007/07/28/flock-this-way/ and here's a screenshot: http://themasterplan.in/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/snapshot_flock4.png
[05:37] <dmuser> Evenin everyone
[05:37] <intelikey> _mEo kde can do that with a hotkey   you may have to configure it tho
[05:37] <arun> evenin dmuser
[05:38] <josh_> Alright.
[05:38] <josh_> I need some help
[05:38] <dmuser> I have a question about partitioning a drive.  It's currently NTFS, and I had to force mount it because the partition table on it is corrupt.  QTPartition gets an error when I try to examine the drive.  How do I format and repartition this drive?
[05:38] <intelikey> _mEo in kcontrol > parifreals > keyboard    iirc
[05:39] <josh_> When I do the add/remove programs on the current version of linux, it claims that another process is using that.
[05:39] <[ifroog] > dmuser, to what filesystem ?
[05:39] <dmuser> ext3
[05:39] <josh_> However, I can't find the actual applicaiton that is using the file system
[05:39] <arun> dmuser: try gparted?
[05:39] <dmuser> Not yet
[05:39] <josh_> any ideas on how to fix that?
[05:39] <dmuser> It's more robust?
[05:39] <josh_> I've rebooted many times.
[05:39] <intelikey> josh_ close the package manager ?
[05:39] <arun> gparted is supposedly the best for this sort of thing
[05:39] <josh_> how would I go about doing that
[05:39] <[ifroog] > dmuser, are you familiar with thelinux disk naming scheme ?
[05:39] <dmuser> I shall try it momentarily then
[05:39] <intelikey> !adeptcrashfix | josh_
[05:39] <ubotu> josh_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:40] <arun> stoned: there?
[05:40] <josh_> in the terminal?
[05:40] <dmuser> ifroog, only loosely
[05:40] <Biovore> josh_: You can only have application open at a time that installs applications..  (things that use APT)  You have something running thats installing applications or quering the database..
[05:40] <[ifroog] > dmuser, Then mkfs.ext3 is the command. Check out the man.
[05:40] <josh_> thanks I already know that
[05:40] <josh_> but I dont understand what it is
[05:40] <intelikey> josh_ you are sudo'ing it....   all package manipulation needs root access
[05:40] <dmuser> man mkfs.ext3?
[05:41] <[ifroog] > yes.
[05:41] <josh_> whats sudo'ing it?
[05:41] <dmuser> Ok, thanks
[05:41] <intelikey> sudo blah
[05:41] <[ifroog] > np
[05:41] <josh_> huh?
[05:41] <intelikey> !sudo | josh_
[05:41] <ubotu> josh_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:41] <josh_> oh
[05:41] <intelikey> yeah that's the problem.
[05:42] <josh_> how do i fix that?
[05:42] <arun> sussussudio
[05:42] <intelikey> you read the link         ^
[05:42] <intelikey> and yes you can even do that in a console    w3m https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:43] <intelikey> next !
[05:43] <josh_> alright
[05:43] <josh_> so I understand that
[05:44] <josh_> but I don't understand hwo to tell which programs are using the apt installer
[05:44] <intelikey> i'll post that link one more time...   (err infonode)
[05:44] <intelikey> !adeptcrashfix | josh_
[05:44] <ubotu> josh_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:45] <intelikey> if all you want is the info    fuser -v /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[05:45] <josh_> I want a fix
[05:45] <josh_> and that seems to be working.
[05:46] <_gtt_> what's the keyboard command to activate the k menu?
[05:46] <josh_> thank you
[05:46] <josh_> your a god.
[05:46] <hii> awe =] 
[05:46] <intelikey> josh_ not even close.  but you're welcome
[05:47] <_gtt_> !keyboard
[05:47] <ubotu> To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[05:47] <_gtt_> !Shortcuts
[05:47] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[05:47] <josh_> it seems like it was a poker game server error
[05:47] <josh_> like it kept on trying to set up a server
[05:47] <josh_> although I didn't want it to
[05:47] <josh_> lol
[05:47] <se7en^Of^9> i want to cp all files and subfolder but not all the .mp3 files in it anyone know how to do that
[05:47] <arunkale> does anyone know that the microsoft website actually sells ubuntu cds, and calls ubuntu an 'excellent alternative to windows'?
[05:48] <dmuser> "If you can't beat 'em; join 'em"?
[05:48] <intelikey> arunkale link ???
[05:48] <[ifroog] > se7en^Of^9, huh, use find and rm with grep with regular expressions.
[05:48] <josh_> so, what music program plays .mp3?
[05:48] <josh_> Because Amaraok doesn't
[05:48] <intelikey> josh_ vlc
[05:48] <josh_> vlc?
[05:48] <josh_> kk
[05:48] <bob_sinclair> which are the popular command line torrents?
[05:49] <intelikey> !mp3 | josh_
[05:49] <ubotu> josh_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:49] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> josh_: Did you install "libxine1-ffmpeg" ?
[05:49] <josh_> No.
[05:49] <se7en^Of^9> [ifroog] : give me an example i am lost ... tied everything and didn't work
[05:49] <[ifroog] > bob_sinclair, bittorrent
[05:49] <josh_> I will, but I need vlc to play other content as well
[05:50] <intelikey> dmuser i thought it was "if you can't beet them, start a political campain against them..."   ?
[05:50] <[ifroog] > se7en^Of^9, huh, just a sec..
[05:50] <dmuser> Only to idealists :P
[05:50] <intelikey> josh_ you don't actually need vlc  but vlc can do what most medai apps do without needing the "propritary" crap that they need.
[05:51] <intelikey> dmuser :)
[05:51] <se7en^Of^9> [ifroog] : its 10 am here i have a lot of time :)
[05:51] <bob_sinclair> [ifroog] : thats a bit old that client. i guess im looking for something better than rtorrent if its available
[05:51] <intelikey> ktorrent ?
[05:52] <|_ocke> hello
[05:52] <intelikey> |_ocke
[05:52] <|_ocke> can someone tell me what the process naem for Kasbar is so I can kill it
[05:53] <[ifroog] > se7en^Of^9, ok you want to remove all the files except mp3s ?
[05:53] <bob_sinclair> cli BT
[05:53] <|_ocke> I have no intention of having it run but my good friends 18 month old somehow started it on my system and it starts with KDE every time now
[05:53] <arunkale> intelikey: i lost the link.. trying to find it again
[05:53] <dmuser> Is it possible to view and modify reiserfs partitions in a Windows environment?  Or is that only possible with ext3(with a plugin)
[05:53] <intelikey> |_ocke remove the link/script in ~/.kde/Autostart/
[05:53] <|_ocke> none of the processes in htop even resemble the name and after killing 15 k* processes it didnt die, but my whole WM did
[05:54] <se7en^Of^9> [ifroog] : no i want to cp all folder and subfolder but not the mp3 inside
[05:54] <|_ocke> nothing exists in ~/.kde/Autostart/
[05:54] <|_ocke> ls -a
[05:54] <|_ocke> er
[05:54] <intelikey> hmmmm
[05:54] <intelikey> ok.   what about /etc/rc2.d/   ?
[05:55] <|_ocke> i see S20kde-guidance
[05:55] <|_ocke> and s99rc.local
[05:55] <|_ocke> and a bunch of others
[05:55] <intelikey> i dont think a child could affect that unless you leave a root gui running...
[05:55] <|_ocke> pico S99rc.local
[05:55] <|_ocke> er, crap
[05:55] <|_ocke> intelikey, i didnt either
[05:55] <|_ocke> and no i would never run ANY gui root
[05:56] <|_ocke> but apparently she ran Kasbar somehow and it has been running on the top right ever since
[05:56] <intelikey> so i'm still guessing it's in your $HOME
[05:56] <|_ocke> i would assume so
[05:56] <|_ocke> but i cant find it
[05:56] <|_ocke> and i cant find the process running in htop
[05:57] <|_ocke> none of the running processes look anything like Kasbar or anything close
[05:57] <intelikey> ok grep -HiRe bar ~
[05:57] <|_ocke> i spent the last 30 mins killing k* processes i didnt recognize, none of them did it and the last one killed my whole WM
[05:57] <intelikey> run that in a konsole see what it turns up
[05:57] <intelikey> grep -HiRe bar ~
[05:58] <|_ocke> nothing even close
[05:58] <|_ocke> mostly MP3s
[05:58] <intelikey> you may need to filter with   | grep -vie bin
[05:58] <|_ocke> k
[05:59] <|_ocke> /home/locke/.xsession-errors:QObject::connect:  (receiver name: 'kasbarextension')
[05:59] <intelikey> that's it but it's not it.  anything else
[05:59] <|_ocke> nothing at all
[05:59] <|_ocke> i know its it but doesnt help me at all :P
[06:00] <intelikey> right
[06:00] <|_ocke> its gotta be a running process right?
[06:00] <intelikey> well heck    grep -HiRe bar /etc 2>/dev/null | grep -vie bin
[06:00] <|_ocke> its displaying parts of text files now :P
[06:01] <intelikey> |_ocke running but probably handeled by xinit not init  thus not in the ps output
[06:01] <|_ocke> ah
[06:02] <|_ocke> im definitely not a moron when it comes to linux and computer science in general so it is really bothering me :P
[06:02] <intelikey> |_ocke i have a thought.    you said "i'm not going to be running it"    so how about uninstalling it  ?
[06:02] <|_ocke> hmm..
[06:02] <|_ocke> i guess i could do that
[06:02] <|_ocke> good call
[06:02] <intelikey> that's the intelikey way  :)
[06:03] <|_ocke> apt-cache search kasbar == null :P
[06:03] <intelikey> .....
[06:03] <|_ocke> maybe ill go in synaptic and look :P
[06:03] <arunkale> Wow, just installed Evolution. I expected it to have lots of rough edges like other gtk-based apps, but this looks really good!
[06:03] <|_ocke> crap
[06:03] <arunkale> works great as well.. all sorts of options
[06:03] <|_ocke> arunkale, no, evolution beats the crap out of outlook any day
[06:04] <arunkale> |_ocke: so does thunderbird, but that looks like crap on kubuntu.. evolution looks sexy
[06:04] <|_ocke> true
[06:04] <arunkale> it uses my kde styles
[06:04] <|_ocke> evolution does look sexy
[06:04] <arunkale> other gtk apps on my system dont look my kde style
[06:04] <|_ocke> but it takes too much memory for me :(
[06:04] <arunkale> dont use*
[06:05] <arunkale> evolution is from novell?
[06:05] <intelikey> computyus say "programmer that know computer, have very strange sex life"
[06:05] <|_ocke> Kasbar was originally written by Mosfet as a kicker applet, and
[06:05] <|_ocke> maybe thats my key
[06:05] <|_ocke> kicker
[06:05] <|_ocke> there is kicker running
[06:05] <Daisuke_Ido> well yeah
[06:05] <intelikey> yeah it's the task bar
[06:05] <arunkale> how do i set filters in evolution?
[06:06] <Daisuke_Ido> that panel at the bottom?  that's kicker
[06:06] <|_ocke> oh really
[06:06] <|_ocke> i didnt know that
[06:06] <intelikey> kill it and you will  :)
[06:06] <|_ocke> i've only been using KDE on a consistent basis for about 3 months
[06:06] <|_ocke> ahahaha
[06:06] <|_ocke> well i wont kill it then
[06:06] <Daisuke_Ido> |_ocke: check out kickoff :)
[06:06] <|_ocke> i was just about to kill -9 kicker :D
[06:06] <|_ocke> in fact i was typing it up as you said that
[06:07] <intelikey> but you might be on to something    right click the taskbar and configure   see if you can kill kaz that way
[06:07] <Daisuke_Ido> !kickoff
[06:07] <ubotu> Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[06:07] <Daisuke_Ido> it's groovy :)
[06:07] <arunkale> does evolution use the mbox format?
[06:07] <|_ocke> i see no hidden icons in system tray configure
[06:08] <intelikey> not systray  but the task bar itself
[06:08] <arunkale> Daisuke_Ido: do you use kickoff?
[06:09] <|_ocke> hmm
[06:09] <|_ocke> what could kickoff do for my problem?
[06:09] <|_ocke> i dont see the relevance from that page
[06:10] <intelikey> |_ocke did you right click the kasbar and see if you can "delete this pannel" ?
[06:10] <Daisuke_Ido> arunkale: yes i do
[06:10] <intelikey> or was that a gnome thing
[06:10] <|_ocke> intelikey, i can delete individual Kasbar panels, but not the whole thing
[06:10] <intelikey> i'll shut up now.
[06:11] <Daisuke_Ido> intelikey: remove from panel > applet > take your pick there
[06:11] <|_ocke> intelikey, and if i delete one it just closes the program relevant
[06:11] <arunkale> Daisuke_Ido: any bugs yet?
[06:12] <Daisuke_Ido> not that i've run into
[06:12] <intelikey> when someone asks an fs or base system Q some ring me.
[06:12] <ardchoille> |_ocke: That's what it's suppoed to do. What are you wanting to do?
[06:12] <|_ocke> i want to kill Kasbar entirely
[06:12] <intelikey> ardchoille to kill kasbar permenantly
[06:12] <|_ocke> i dont want kasbar to run at all
[06:12] <|_ocke> im using the normal K taskbar
[06:13] <|_ocke> it is just redundant
[06:13] <|_ocke> if i wanted windowmaker buttons i'd run windowmaker
[06:13] <|_ocke> itd take a tenth the memory hehe
[06:14] <|_ocke> AHAHAHHHAHH!HH!H!H!
[06:14] <ardchoille> |_ocke: kasbar doesn't run until you launch it. you can do "ps aux | grep kasbar|, find the pid and kill it.
[06:14] <|_ocke> I FREAKING GOT IT
[06:14] <|_ocke> ardchoille, that doesnt work
[06:14] <|_ocke> ardchoille, there is no process with kasbar anywhere in the name
[06:14] <ardchoille> Then you've got something wrong because it works here
[06:14] <intelikey> |_ocke you got ?
[06:15] <|_ocke> but i just found a page showing how to start it, which is by right clicking the KDE taskbar -> add new panel -> Kasbar
[06:15] <intelikey> that's what i said  ^^^^
[06:15] <|_ocke> so by reverse intuition i right clicked taskbar, remove from panel -> kasbar (right)
[06:15] <intelikey> and you should be able to get rid the same way
[06:15] <|_ocke> intelikey, from what you said i right clicked on the kasbar
[06:16] <|_ocke> i never considered to right click on the taskbar on bottom
 but you might be on to something    right click the taskbar and  configure   see if you can kill kaz that way   (very next post) <intelikey> not systray  but the task bar itself
[06:16] <|_ocke> omg thank zeus/jesus/cthulhu/flying spaghetti monster its gone
[06:16] <|_ocke> eh
[06:16] <|_ocke> i guess im ignorant or scannign instead of reading
[06:17] <|_ocke> holy crap
[06:17] <|_ocke> i need a cigarette now
[06:18] <intelikey> so the truth of the matter is if you had killed kicker kasbar would have went with it.
[06:18] <intelikey> but restarting it would have restarted both
[06:19] <|_ocke> probably
[06:19] <|_ocke> now i have to walk someone through installing DD-WRT on their 54g over the phone
[06:20] <arunkale> can i minimise evolution to the panel?
[06:20] <arunkale> system tray*
[06:23] <Nancy_pauline> I'm in the process of moving over from Suse (micro-Novell-soft??)  and running Kubuntu right now.  If I enable multiverse will I get the dix codecs ....  etc?  If not,  what needs to be done?
[06:24] <Daisuke_Ido> enabling multiverse should be all you need to do
[06:24] <Daisuke_Ido> well, and updating and installing them, of course
[06:24] <Daisuke_Ido> but you get the idea
[06:25] <Nancy_pauline> I didn't see it after enabling I will look again though
[06:26] <Daisuke_Ido> Nancy_pauline: sudo apt-get update
[06:27] <ice9> how can I stop a specific module?
[06:27] <[ifroog] > intelikey, if <se7en^Of^9> get back asking for the mp3 thingy.. tell him to give this a try..
[06:28] <[ifroog] > cp `find |grep -e '[^\.mp3] $'` DESTINATION_DIR -rfv
[06:28] <[ifroog] > i Got to run..
[06:28] <[ifroog] > Thank you !
[06:29] <Nancy_pauline> Ok,  that worked.  Next question  please?  I'm running Opera and trying to get flash to work.  Such as Youtube,  etc.  Anything specific I need to know?  I've tried 2 different flash player thingies with No luck.
[06:29] <bob_sinclair> amy rtorrent users here?
[06:31] <Agent_bob> hmm  /msg neckserv doesn't work....   :)
[06:37] <ice9> is there a way to view available wireless networks?
[06:39] <bob_sinclair> !info knetworkmanager
[06:39] <ubotu> knetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu12 (feisty), package size 232 kB, installed size 1496 kB
[06:39] <bob_sinclair> ice9: use that its an tray icon
[06:39] <ice9> I have that, but it only shows wired connection and manual connection
[06:41] <Hobbsee> ice9: if you do an iwlist <wireless interface, like ath0> scan, does it bring up anything?
[06:41] <arunkale> i cant install thunderbird 2 from adept?
[06:43] <ice9> yes, lets of things
[06:43] <Scorpaen> i'm in trouble ....
[06:43] <Scorpaen> custom kernel
[06:43] <Scorpaen> :D
[06:44] <Scorpaen> and i accidentally overwrote the default kernel
[06:44] <Scorpaen> basically what's happening is: my macchine is stuck at mounting the root hd.
[06:44] <Scorpaen> it's reiserfs and i have reiserfs compiled in...
[06:44] <Scorpaen> i thikn i reversed my devices somehow. i have a pci controller and onboard PATA controlers for my PATA hard drives
[06:45] <Scorpaen> i just now took out 'boot offboard chipsets first' and it still didn't help
[06:45] <Agent_bob> Scorpaen fs support but no disk support
[06:45] <Scorpaen> Agent_bob: do i need pc dos partition support?
[06:45] <Scorpaen> i didn't configure advanced partitoin
[06:45] <Scorpaen> i just now put htat back in but dindt' try it
[06:45] <Scorpaen> sorry for hte typos i'm exhausted
[06:46] <Agent_bob> Scorpaen you need disk support   and maybe partition support too
[06:46] <Agent_bob> Scorpaen ide-disk   ide-core
[06:46] <Agent_bob> assuming ide
[06:46] <Scorpaen> Agent_bob: afaik i have my nforce2 and raid controller compiled in
[06:46] <Scorpaen> yes ide
[06:46] <Scorpaen> i'm in make menuconfig now
[06:47] <Scorpaen> http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu?s=38cebe95a9d48a6fd7e605f4cc8b4c0b&
[06:47] <Scorpaen> i followed this guide
[06:47] <Scorpaen> works great if i could just get hte kernel correct
[06:47] <Scorpaen> :P
[06:47] <bob_sinclair> !wireless | ice9
[06:47] <ubotu> ice9: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:48] <Agent_bob> Scorpaen yeah ubuntu's modus operandus is bare kernel bloated initramfs image file
[06:49] <Scorpaen> i came from gentoo if that tells you anything
[06:49] <Scorpaen> i'm on Gutsy
[06:49] <Scorpaen> the alpha release
[06:49] <Scorpaen> Agent_bob: please tell me more about this ide disk and ide core
[06:49] <Agent_bob> i know what gutsy gibon is   and that tells me more
[06:49] <Scorpaen> where do i find that in make menuconfig?
[06:50] <Scorpaen> yessir
[06:50] <Scorpaen> sorry
[06:50] <Scorpaen> Agent_bob: if i upload my .config somewhere, would you mind looking it over?
[06:50] <Scorpaen> and i can pastebin my lspci
[06:50] <Scorpaen> ?
[06:50] <Agent_bob> Scorpaen sure
[06:50] <Scorpaen> thanks man
[06:50] <Scorpaen> brb
[06:50] <Agent_bob> !paste
[06:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:51] <bharani> hi
[06:51] <Agent_bob> bharani
[06:51] <bharani>  hi agent
[06:51] <bharani> I am new to this place
[06:51] <Scorpaen> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31877/
[06:52] <Scorpaen> there's the lspci, Agent_bob
[06:52] <Scorpaen> brb for the .config
[06:52] <bharani> would u give me quick tips
[06:52] <bharani> for  ajump start
[06:52] <Agent_bob> !msgthebot
[06:52] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[06:52] <bharani> !msgthebot ..?
[06:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about msgthebot ..? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:52] <Agent_bob> !ubotu
[06:52] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:53] <lorolol> i has a prublm!! halp pluz!!
[06:53] <bharani> agent?
[06:53] <Agent_bob> bharani that's a tip.  use /msg and ask ubotu things.
[06:55] <Lynoure> lorolol: If you really have a problem, and want help for it, please describe it.
[06:55] <Hobbsee> ice9: did you find that knm updated with it?
[06:55] <Hobbsee> heya Lynoure
[06:55] <Lynoure> hi Hobbsee
[06:56] <ice9> no I got a wifi-radar that does it
[06:56] <ice9> however, I'm not getting an IP from my wireless network, any ideas for that?
[06:56] <Agent_bob> bharani here's another nugget,  you didn't learn windows in a day don't expect to learn linux in an hour.     one kinda has to unlearn M$ to learn linux
[06:57] <lorolol> lol, learn m$$?
[06:57] <lorolol> learn m$$? More like m$ brainwashed
[06:57] <lorolol> I don't think m$$ is learning, is more like indoctrination
[06:57] <Agent_bob> lorolol yeah,  you'd be surprised that the people that can't do anything in a windows system so i suppose it requires some learning
[06:58] <lorolol> Lynoure: I am doing several installation at the same time and I'd like to set up VNC
[06:58] <lorolol> I've got the client what part do I need to set on the remote Linux?
[06:58] <lorolol> in fact Kubuntu
[06:59] <se7en^Of^9> i want to cp all folder and subfolder but not the mp3 inside any idea
[06:59] <lorolol> se7en^Of^9: man cp
[06:59] <Agent_bob> in M$ im like "ok i dl'd this program, now what's the name of the packagemanager/installer so i can install winrar.exe?"   heh.
[07:00] <ice9> anybody know why I can't get an IP on my wireless network?
[07:00] <pacman> hmm
[07:00] <Lynoure> lorolol: Kubuntu comes with VNC installed. See Krfb in the menu, but I'm not sure if there is any non-graphical way to start it
[07:01] <lorolol> Lynoure: graphical is aight
[07:01] <nicolas> lorolol: you can start a vnc server from commandline with x11vnc
[07:01] <Agent_bob> se7en^Of^9 find
[07:01] <lorolol> wait so on the remote Kubuntu what do I start?
[07:01] <Lynoure> nicolas: after installing it, sure.
[07:02] <nicolas> Lynoure: of course, but im not speaking to a beginner so he already knows
[07:02] <vbhide> do i need to install all the available updates?
[07:02] <vbhide> its like 200mb of downloas
[07:03] <Agent_bob> se7en^Of^9 just in case that was too vague...       find /base/dir/ -type d -exec mkdir -p /new/base/dir/'{}' \;
[07:03] <Lynoure> nicolas: want to take it from this on? :)
[07:04] <nicolas> :P
[07:04] <se7en^Of^9> Agent_bob: thanks yes it was kind of vague
[07:04] <Lynoure> I have not had breakfast yet, and he does not need two people to help him
[07:05] <nicolas> lorolol: you can use Krfb in the K menu
[07:05] <nicolas> Lynoure: go eat
[07:06] <nicolas> lorolol: under the Internet submenu
[07:06] <Agent_bob> Hobbsee hmmm  an offender ?
[07:06] <Hobbsee> Agent_bob: yeah.  bot goiing around running exploits, then parting
[07:06] <Scorpaen> hey Agent_bob here's my current .config : http://training.ctchosting.com/pcampbell/config
[07:06] <Agent_bob> ah ok.
[07:07] <lorolol> nicolas: ok thanks, I will try right now. For real I've having to install several installations simultaneously and is just a pain in the neck. Also the other shitty part about Ub/Ku is that you can't SSH install!!!
[07:07] <se7en^Of^9> Agent_bob: that would cp only the folder and subfolder but i need the .jpg and plain text files inside but not the mp3
[07:07] <dsmith_> Agent_bob: your name reminds me of Microsoft Bob
[07:07] <Agent_bob> se7en^Of^9 now you are changing the criteria
[07:07] <lorolol> I mean cmon
[07:07] <Scorpaen> Agent_bob: 01:0a.0 RAID bus controller: Silicon Image, Inc. PCI0680 Ultra ATA-133 Host Controller (rev 02)
[07:07] <Scorpaen> i'm using that plus hte nforce2 onboard controller
[07:07] <Agent_bob> but same app can do it  jsut needs more switches
[07:07] <Agent_bob> se7en^Of^9 ^
[07:08] <nicolas> lorolol: i guess you could if you really wanted
[07:08] <Agent_bob> Scorpaen ok i'm looking now.
[07:08] <Scorpaen> Agent_bob: i appreciate it man. i'm tired. not thinking clearly. and i need to get this back up and runing
[07:08] <Scorpaen> heh
[07:09] <lorolol> nicolas: not having the ability of ssh install is not being serious
[07:09] <lorolol> a serious distro.
[07:09] <nicolas> lorolol: such as ?
[07:09] <se7en^Of^9> sorry i did ask more detailed before but got no responce Agent_bob
[07:09] <Scorpaen> Agent_bob: as long as i have it compiled in the kernel, not in the init image, should work too right??
[07:10] <Scorpaen> i mean a kernel is a kernel.... i hope
[07:10] <Scorpaen> :s
[07:10] <lorolol> nicolas: Gentoo, BSD, Debian, etc..
[07:10] <lorolol> they all offer ssh install
[07:10] <lorolol> also I complain that there isn't a completely CLI way of installing Ub/Ku
[07:10] <Agent_bob> Scorpaen yeah   but i think i found what you overlooked   "# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_IDE is not set "
[07:10] <Scorpaen> lorolol: i use gentoo for servers, kubuntu for desktops
[07:10] <lorolol> I don't want stinky text dialogs
[07:10] <Scorpaen> Agent_bob: where is that in make menuconfig?
[07:11] <Scorpaen> under ATA ATAPI?
[07:11] <nicolas> lorolol: dunno, i use the same install since 1990
[07:11] <vbhide> do i have to install all the available updates on adept?
[07:11] <nicolas> :)
[07:11] <Agent_bob> Scorpaen set that to =y     i'm not sure where   block device support i assume
[07:12] <Agent_bob> Scorpaen i just greped it out of your config file   i'd just sed edit the config and go.
[07:12] <nicolas> lorolol: you got it with krfb ?
[07:13] <Agent_bob> but probably safer to use the configuration process
[07:13] <lorolol> nicolas: now, setting the invitation. Now on the one that  I am making the connection
[07:13] <lorolol> I have vnx
[07:14] <Scorpaen> Agent_bob: i'm going to do it now. thanks
[07:14] <Scorpaen> brb
[07:14] <lorolol> one thing that Kub beats Gentoo is the tab comletion. It's awsome
[07:14] <vbhide> all the updates add to around 200 mb.... hope its not necessary
[07:14] <lorolol> you can even tab complete each commands options!!!
[07:15] <pacman> <[07:15] <Agent_bob> ok se7en^Of^9 something like and you'll have to test this.       find /blah/ ! -iname *.mp3 -exec cp '{}' /new/dir \;       cause i'm not sure it will preserve sub dirs...  in fact i doubt it.
[07:15] <hitmanWilly> pacman: still? did you try configuring the layout?
[07:16] <Scorpaen> Agent_bob: i just aborted an upgrade now the db for adept is locked. how to clear th elock?
[07:16] <pacman> yeah, I tried all the options
[07:16] <pacman> even switched keyboards and did the same, still nothing
[07:16] <Agent_bob> se7en^Of^9 ask in #bash   be exact and be patient.
[07:16] <hitmanWilly> pacman: did you try disabling the keyboard layout altogether?
[07:16] <pacman> yes
[07:16] <hitmanWilly> hmmm
[07:16] <Agent_bob> !adaptcrashfix | Scorpaen
[07:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adaptcrashfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:17] <Agent_bob> !adeptcrashfix | Scorpaen
[07:17] <ubotu> Scorpaen: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[07:17] <hitmanWilly> pacman: lemme think for a minute...
[07:18] <pacman> how can I access the setup menu (the one from when I installed) from Console
[07:18] <arunkale> why wont katapult launch evolution for me
[07:18] <lorolol> it half gets there
[07:18] <lorolol> I get authentication error
[07:18] <se7en^Of^9> thanks Agent_bob
[07:18] <hitmanWilly> pacman: you could try reconfiguring X, it sounds like that's where the problem may be...
[07:19] <Lynoure> arunkale: knowing you, you do have evolution installed. What does it do instead?
[07:19] <lorolol> but I am putting the proper password
[07:19] <Agent_bob> se7en^Of^9 heh heck, what i'd do is a simple hack    cp -R /blah /new/blah ;find /new/blah -iname *.mp3 -exec rm '{}' \;     hehhe
[07:19] <lorolol> dammit!!
[07:19] <pacman> how do I get in to reconfigure X?
[07:19] <Agent_bob> se7en^Of^9 unless bandwidth was a factor of course
[07:19] <lorolol> do I have to copy the - symbol?
[07:19] <arunkale> Lynoure: ha, yeah I just installed Evolution and I love it. Works and looks great. It doesn't launch evolution, doesn't really do anything instead
[07:20] <hitmanWilly> pacman: sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg if im not mistaken
[07:20] <arunkale> Lynoure: do i need to restart x for katapult to add evolution to its catalog?
[07:20] <Lynoure> arunkale: if you just installed it now, I guess it is possible katapult goes through the catalogs only at its startup
[07:20] <lorolol> WOAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:20] <lorolol> WTF??!!
[07:20] <Lynoure> arunkale: not sure, that's what I try, before or after strace.
[07:20] <pacman> lemme try it, I'll be back
[07:21] <Scorpaen> oh wow... i think i just found out how to restore my generic kernel. i had nuked boot from the ramfs on the livecd and mounted my real boot into it, the apt upgrade system just copied the kernel and initramfs to the real /boot
[07:21] <Scorpaen> lol
[07:21] <arunkale> Lynoure: alright
[07:21] <arunkale> Scorpaen: good for you
[07:21] <lorolol> yo this is kewl!!
[07:21] <lorolol> how come is so simple and fast?
[07:22] <lorolol> I thought it was gonna be mad hard
[07:22] <arunkale> lorolol: what is simple and fast?
[07:22] <Agent_bob> Scorpaen more than one way to pull the hide off a felion
[07:22] <Scorpaen> Agent_bob: lol
[07:22] <lorolol> arunkale: VNC
[07:22] <lorolol> this is insane
[07:22] <lorolol> but too slow
[07:23] <lorolol> why is too slow?
[07:23] <lorolol> is laggy as  hell
[07:23] <arunkale> what's VNC
[07:23] <Lynoure> you just said it was fast... make up your mind or provide some context
[07:23] <Agent_bob> !info vnc
[07:23] <ubotu> Package vnc does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:23] <ice9> any wireless network experts in here? I can't seem to get an IP
[07:23] <Agent_bob> !info tightvnc
[07:23] <ubotu> Package tightvnc does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:24] <crimsun> ice9: associated with the AP?
[07:24] <Agent_bob> well poo
[07:24] <ardchoille> !search vnc
[07:24] <ubotu> Found: screencast, vnc, vncfix
[07:24] <lorolol> Agent_bob: tightvnc is faster?
[07:24] <crimsun> it's tightvncviewer
[07:24] <ice9> I'm not sure about that Crimsun, how can I find out?
[07:24] <Lynoure> arunkale: "virtual network console", a way to use remote desktop like it was it's own.
[07:24] <ardchoille> !vnc
[07:24] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[07:24] <lorolol> I am using VNC on the Gentoo end
[07:24] <crimsun> !info tightvncviewer
[07:24] <Agent_bob> !info vnc-common
[07:24] <lorolol> and Kubs stock VNC server
[07:24] <ubotu> Package tightvncviewer does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:24] <ubotu> vnc-common: Virtual network computing server software. In component main, is optional. Version 3.3.7-13ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 59 kB, installed size 184 kB
[07:24] <Lynoure> VNC is a slow protocol
[07:24] <lorolol> and is slowz as a fat ...
[07:25] <crimsun> prepend x, sorry
[07:25] <pacman> still nothing.
[07:25] <crimsun> ice9: look at iwconfig
[07:25] <lorolol> w00t@VNCoverSSH
[07:25] <arunkale> evolution won't send my emails
[07:25] <arunkale> i'm sure my smtp config is correct
[07:25] <lorolol> wait a minute are you telling me that Kubs is not over SSH?'
[07:25] <Agent_bob> crimsun where you been hiden' ?
[07:25] <ice9> !paste
[07:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:25] <crimsun> Agent_bob: ?
[07:26] <ice9> Crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31879/
[07:26] <Agent_bob> hadn't been seeing you around
[07:26] <Lynoure> arunkale: and the smtp server allows you to send?
[07:26] <crimsun> Agent_bob: career change involving much more travel
[07:27] <Lynoure> arunkale: if you contact it manually, can you get a mail through?
[07:27] <hitmanWilly> pacman: hmmmm
[07:27] <arunkale> Lynoure: contact what?
[07:27] <Lynoure> arunkale: the smtp server.
[07:27] <crimsun> ice9: good, and now `sudo dhclient ath0'
[07:28] <hitmanWilly> pacman: so nothing works in KDE at all, but you can login through kdm?
[07:28] <intelikey> crimsun i C++    you like ?    glad for you if so.
[07:28] <crimsun> intelikey: definitely a positive change.
[07:28] <arunkale> Lynoure: what do you mean by manually?
[07:28] <intelikey> k good    i'll get back on topic now.   just wanted to say howdy.
[07:28] <Lynoure> arunkale: quite often at least corporate smtp servers simply do not accept you to send anything unless you are in their network. (or authenticate, in some cases)
[07:29] <Scorpaen> hey bob here i go
[07:29] <Scorpaen> bbiab!
[07:29] <intelikey> Scorpaen k
[07:29] <arunkale> Lynoure: it was just working a minute ago, now i cant send or receive emails after i restarted the client
[07:29] <ice9> Crimsun http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31880/
[07:29] <Lynoure> arunkale: here is a step-by-step for you: http://www.rdpslides.com/webresources/FAQ00035.htm
[07:29] <Lynoure> arunkale: oh, so it worked before? Totally different situation, then.
[07:30] <arunkale> Lynoure: yeah, it worked before
[07:30] <crimsun> ice9: 7.04 or 7.10?
[07:30] <intelikey> arunkale firewall change ?
[07:30] <jimishol> hi all. one little help with kontact. it is few days that takes several minutes to start and it seems to use too much system source. Vmsize is 1409320 is it normal?
[07:30] <ice9> Crimsun 7.04
[07:30] <crimsun> ice9: tried the 7.10 tribe 3 live cd?
[07:31] <ice9> no, think I'll have better luck with it?
[07:31] <intelikey> jimishol long startup no size yeah about that
[07:31] <crimsun> ice9: newer mac layer, so yeah
[07:31] <ice9> Crimsun will I be able to upgrade to it? Without losing everything
[07:32] <arunkale> works now, i just restarted evolution
[07:32] <arunkale> weird
[07:32] <crimsun> ice9: just try the live cd; you don't need to install it
[07:33] <ice9> but I mean if it does work and I do decide to install it
[07:33] <intelikey> ice test first if you have good results then in a month or two you can install the newer release....
[07:34] <ice9> and where do I obtain it? I don't see it on the site
[07:35] <crimsun> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-July/000319.html
[07:35] <se7en^Of^9> intelikey: rsync does the trick thanks anyway
[07:35] <intelikey> arunkale kinda sounds a little like some gtk something not starting correctly     hit and miss kinda thing      but i'm no expert there.    if you can reproduce the condition on successive restarts then file a bug on it
[07:36] <intelikey> se7en^Of^9 hmmm ok.    don't know why i didn't think of using rsync locally....
[07:36] <intelikey> se7en^Of^9 who put you on to that ?
[07:36] <ice9> oh, one more question, how can I browse to the router settings? In windows I was able to just type the IP in a folder or web browser, but not the case here
[07:36] <jimishol> can anyone check with ksysguard the VMsize of kontact?
[07:37] <se7en^Of^9> #bash and i use rsync anyway
[07:37] <se7en^Of^9> #bash and i use rsync anyway intelikey
[07:37] <intelikey> se7en^Of^9 well there ya go then   :)
[07:37] <miles> !iptables
[07:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:38] <yurimxpxman> is there any way to increase the desktop icon size without changing the icons in the file browser?
[07:39] <intelikey> s/.*or GUIapplications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE)/$*which are just frontends to iptables anyway/
[07:39] <arunkale> i think i'll stick with kmail
[07:39] <arunkale> how do i add an 'account' to an 'identity' in kmail?
[07:40] <intelikey> in it's menu configure it
[07:40] <arunkale> alright
[07:40] <intelikey> err actually i never found a way to add smtp's but adding other fetches is easy
[07:42] <arunkale> it doesn't seem to be downloading any old email from my server.. i want it to download all the emails that are currently on my server
[07:42] <pacman> *sighs*
[07:42] <intelikey> don't have "leave a copy on the server" ticked do you ?
[07:43] <pacman> who's been helping me with my keyboard issue?  all that showed on bitchx was <       >
[07:43] <arunkale> intelikey: i do
[07:44] <intelikey> arunkale well the old emails are probably marked as already dl'd on the server...  you can use a web browser and mark them as unseen   might do the trick
[07:44] <arunkale> alright, will try
[07:44] <intelikey> close kmail first or you may confuse something
[07:45] <intelikey> monkey C monkey do,  except in #kubuntu where monkey C monkey get confused and ask stupid questions....
[07:45] <pacman> heh
[07:46] <intelikey> i should have quoted that,  i think someone in here said that one time
[07:48] <intelikey> pacman maybe   "<hitmanWilly> pacman: you could try reconfiguring X,..."
[07:48] <miles> um
[07:48] <intelikey> sorry i was slow on seeing what you were asking
[07:48] <arunkale> intelikey: damn. looks like evolution downloaded all the email from my server and deleted everything on there, even though i had enabled the option of leaving everything on the server
[07:48] <arunkale> aaaaa
[07:49] <arunkale> i'll just move the mbox file from evolution, i guess
[07:49] <hii> <3
[07:49] <intelikey> arunkale and you don't have the ~/.evolution/   mail dir ....      :S
[07:50] <arunkale> intelikey: i'll move it from the ~/.evolution/mail/local
[07:50] <intelikey> arunkale heh or you could forward them all to yourself   hehheh
[07:50] <intelikey> you can see it's almost quiting time....  :)
[07:50] <arunkale> ha no thanks
[07:51] <arunkale> katapult launched kontact but not kmail
[07:51] <arunkale> can i launch just kmail from katapult
[07:51] <intelikey> i don't know that i've ever seen/used katapult
[07:52] <intelikey> Q.  what do linux users do?
[07:52] <intelikey> A.  they install software.
[07:52] <intelikey> Q.  what do kde users do?
[07:52] <intelikey> A.  they configure kde.
[07:55] <arunkale> got all my files from evolution properly
[07:55] <arunkale> cool
[07:55] <holycow> no one configures kde
[07:55] <intelikey> heh
[07:55] <holycow> thats becuase no one can figure out what to configure where
[07:56] <intelikey> holycow i thought that was a given.      right click it
[07:57] <Daisuke_Ido> i admit, i chuckled
[07:57] <holycow> intelikey: lol well heres athought: change the default gateway of your nick card, or the default domainto log in to
[07:57] <Daisuke_Ido> i finished configuring kde though
[07:57] <holycow> its not exactly easy to find :)
[07:57] <arunkale> cant you compose html messages using kmail?
[07:58] <intelikey> arunkale i don't think so...
[07:58] <arunkale> ouch
[07:58] <intelikey> well not in a wyzwyg way
[07:59] <intelikey> i could be wrong.   someone speak up.
[07:59] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido until when ?
[07:59] <intelikey> :)
[08:00] <Daisuke_Ido> for a while i suppose
[08:00] <Daisuke_Ido> i haven't had to mess with any kde settings in a while
[08:00] <intelikey> but i havent seen kde in * months
[08:01] <intelikey> it does seem like a lot of time i wasted just changing stuff in the "look and feel" area tho
[08:02] <intelikey> just think of all the irc text i could have posted insted
[08:10] <ubuntu_> hi
[08:10] <intelikey> yes ?
[08:10] <ubuntu_> i'm trying too change my nickname
[08:10] <ubuntu_> and i'm having problems
[08:10] <ubuntu_> help plz
[08:10] <ubuntu_> lol
[08:10] <intelikey> /nick something
[08:10] <ubuntu_> k thanks
[08:11] <ubuntu_> not working
[08:11] <intelikey> just say that back to me...
[08:11] <intelikey> /nick something
[08:11] <ubuntu_> i tried
[08:11] <ubuntu_> i did it just like that
[08:11] <intelikey> hmmm
[08:12] <ubuntu_> any website
[08:12] <ubuntu_> that shows me how?
[08:12] <intelikey> what client ?
[08:12] <ubuntu_> that i can look at
[08:12] <ubuntu_> konversation
[08:12] <ubuntu_> kubuntu
[08:12] <ubuntu_> 7.04
[08:12] <intelikey> /nick  should work
[08:12] <ubuntu_> well i did it just like that
[08:12] <ubuntu_> many times
[08:12] <Gun_Monkey> anyone else have problems with Atheros wireless NICs?
[08:13] <intelikey> but there is also a menu itom for that
[08:13] <ubuntu_> ya i know
[08:13] <ubuntu_> i went there
[08:13] <ubuntu_> settings configure
[08:13] <ubuntu_> didn't see it
[08:13] <intelikey> ubuntu_ it might have something to do with it being the live cd...  don't see why tho
[08:13] <ubuntu_> there has too be a website
[08:13] <ubuntu_> tho with somethign about it
[08:14] <ubuntu_> everythign
[08:14] <ubuntu_> has a website
[08:14] <ubuntu_> lol
[08:14] <ubuntu_> so give me it plz
[08:14] <ubuntu_> i know there is one
[08:14] <ubuntu_> that woudl help
[08:14] <ubuntu_> a lot
[08:14] <intelikey> ubuntu_  not in the settings configure   some place else    just to set the nick...
[08:14] <ubuntu_> i tried that
[08:14] <ubuntu_> so ur saying
[08:14] <ubuntu_> u cant' do it from settings?
[08:14] <ubuntu_> at all
[08:15] <ubuntu_> cause i dont' see anything listed under that
[08:15] <ubuntu_> too change ur nickname
[08:15] <intelikey> actually all i'm saying is your use of the enter key is annoying
[08:15] <ubuntu_> well i'm trying too figure this out
[08:15] <intelikey> can't you type more that two words with hitting return
[08:15] <ubuntu_> ya i can
[08:16] <ubuntu_> omg
[08:16] <ubuntu_> lol
[08:16] <ubuntu_> just help me
[08:16] <ubuntu_> damn dude
[08:16] <ubuntu_> i'm not tryign too be annoying
[08:16] <ubuntu_> this been pissing me off
[08:16] <ubuntu_> ain't gotta be a dick
[08:16] <kalorin`> heh
[08:16] <kalorin`> what irc client are you using?
[08:17] <ubuntu_> konversation
[08:17] <ubuntu_> of course
[08:17] <ubuntu_> not mirc
[08:17] <ubuntu_> this is linux
[08:17] <kalorin`> more importantly, can you simply type /nick frustrated
[08:17] <ubuntu_> lmfao
[08:17] <kalorin`> ha, you're funny
[08:17] <kalorin`> (not)
[08:17] <ubuntu_> no i can't
[08:17] <kalorin`> try to just type "/nick funnyGuy"
[08:17] <ubuntu_> duh
[08:18] <ubuntu_> i dont' want my nickname
[08:18] <ubuntu_> as funny guy
[08:18] <ubuntu_> dumbass
[08:18] <ubuntu_> lol
[08:18] <dumbass> works for me
[08:18] <ubuntu_> lmfao
[08:18] <ubuntu_> u are one?
[08:18] <ubuntu_> ok lmfao
[08:18] <kalorn`> sure
[08:18] <ubuntu_> damn dude
[08:18] <kalorin`> and I'm using konversation on linux
[08:19] <ubuntu_> oh ya
[08:19] <ubuntu_> wat distro?
[08:19] <kalorin`> lmfao, rotfl, omg!
[08:19] <ubuntu_> i bet u using
[08:19] <kalorin`> um #kubuntu
[08:19] <kalorin`> 2:19am
[08:19] <ubuntu_> ya right ur using
[08:19] <ubuntu_> pc linux
[08:19] <ubuntu_> dont' lie
[08:19] <ubuntu_> haha
[08:19] <kalorin`> rotfl, you're a stich
[08:19] <kalorin`> welp good night
[08:19] <ubuntu_> a snitch?
[08:19] <ubuntu_> u mean
[08:19] <ubuntu_> not stich
[08:20] <ubuntu_> lmfao
[08:20] <kalorin`> stitch
[08:20] <ubuntu_> hmm
[08:20] <kalorin`> 2:20am, I'm not competing in a speeling bee
[08:20] <ubuntu_> well make sense
[08:20] <ubuntu_> lmfao
[08:20] <kalorin`> especially with someone that is such a jolly good fellow but can't change their irc nick
[08:20] <kalorin`> ;)
[08:21] <ubuntu_> stfu
[08:21] <intelikey> :)
[08:21] <kalorin`> lmfao1
[08:21] <arunkale> where are my kmail emails stored
[08:21] <ubuntu_> lmfao
[08:21] <ubuntu_> just because u been using linux
[08:21] <ubuntu_> for ever
[08:21] <ubuntu_> and i haven't
[08:21] <ubuntu_> fuck u
[08:21] <ubuntu_> man
[08:21] <ubuntu_> lol
[08:21] <ubuntu_> wateva
[08:21] <ubuntu_> ill find out
[08:21] <ubuntu_> from someone else
[08:21] <ubuntu_> then u
[08:21] <ubuntu_> its cool
[08:21] <ubuntu_> haha
[08:22] <kalorin`> settings -> chat window -> check box "show box to change own nickname"
[08:22] <kalorin`> enjoy
[08:22] <Gun_Monkey> if you're done with your pissing match, does anyone know if the atheros wireless nics can work with Kubuntu
[08:22] <Gun_Monkey> ?
[08:22] <arunkale> anyone?
[08:23] <intelikey> !wifi | Gun_Monkey i think so have a look
[08:23] <ubotu> Gun_Monkey i think so have a look: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:23] <Gun_Monkey> I've tried for about 3 days, and I can't get linux to pick up the card
[08:23] <arunkale> where are my kmail emails stored? which folder?
[08:24] <ubuntu_> hey thinks but he not sure
[08:24] <ubuntu_> lmfao
[08:24] <intelikey> arunkale if it's not ~/.kmail/something   look ~/.kde/apps/kmail/something
[08:25] <arunkale> intelikeys: it's not in there
[08:25] <arunkale> ah found it
[08:25] <arunkale> it's in ~/.kde/share/apps/
[08:26] <Gun_Monkey> yeah, I think that is the stuff I tired
[08:26] <Gun_Monkey> tried*
[08:26] <intelikey> arunkale ?  oh ok.   yeah i missed /share/  sorry.
[08:26] <Gun_Monkey> looks like I'll have to buy a PC card
[08:26] <Gun_Monkey> no biggy, Atheros sucks anywya
[08:26] <ubuntu_> lmfao that sucks
[08:27] <ubuntu_> wireless
[08:27] <ubuntu_> usally sucks
[08:27] <ubuntu_> anyways
[08:27] <ubuntu_> so wtf
[08:27] <intelikey> !ops | would you please show ubuntu_ to the door now
[08:27] <ubotu> would you please show ubuntu_ to the door now: Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[08:27] <ubuntu_> if u cant' pick of signals
[08:27] <Gun_Monkey> I'm trying to cut windows out of my life as much as possible
[08:27] <ubuntu_> its garbage
[08:27] <ubuntu_> lol
[08:27] <intelikey> thank you Hobbsee
[08:27] <arunkale> i've set my fixed font to freemono, but for some emails, it shows some other monospace font
[08:28] <Hobbsee> i actually wanted kickban by domain.  darn.
[08:29] <intelikey> that'll nail his britches leg to the floor
[08:31] <intelikey> my ignore is broken    i don't even know how long that's been   i hardly ever use it anymore
[08:33] <intelikey> ooops i see why,  my irc client isn't even installed...
[08:35] <milanorex> so.. big gulps huh?
[08:38] <intelikey> milanorex ?
[08:39] <Gun_Monkey> I really need to get a second monitor again
[08:39] <lorolol> why I get in ALL my packages this warning? "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!"
[08:39] <lorolol> that's weird
[08:39] <lorolol> shouldn't they be authenticated?
[08:40] <intelikey> lorolol gnupg not installed or the key not downloaded from the server
[08:40] <intelikey> ubuntu-keyring  is a metapackage that should fix that,    do and update afterwards
[08:43] <lorolol> intelikey: gnupg IS installed
[08:43] <milanorex> anyone else using compiz? it kills my window manager when loading. it works fine on xubuntu though
[08:43] <sbucat> =) i use beryl
[08:44] <lorolol> how do I /wi6
[08:45] <holycow> speaking of beryl, i just installed it and using beryl window manager means i can't get window decorations drawn
[08:45] <holycow> is this common?
[08:45] <milanorex> same problem i'm having with compiz
[08:46] <intelikey> #ubuntu-effects
[08:46] <holycow> shouldnt that be kubuntu-effects?
[08:46] <holycow> kde and gnome aren't exactly the same
[08:46] <intelikey> !beryl
[08:46] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:46] <intelikey>                    ^
[08:47] <holycow> i know what beryl is
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[08:47] <holycow> lol
[08:47] <intelikey> holycow read the infonode.
[08:47] <holycow> oh jesus stop, just go away
[08:47] <holycow> i really hate people giving me ridiculous information
[08:47] <intelikey> help is in #ubuntu-effects
[08:48] <holycow> yeh congratulations
[08:48] <holycow> can you type that again please?
[08:48] <holycow> i didn't get it
[08:48] <intelikey> i don't need this.
[08:48] <milanorex> !ubuntu-effects
[08:48] <ubotu> For help with 3d desktop effects applications or drivers please join #ubuntu-effects, someone there will be glad to help you. You can read http://forum.beryl-project.org/ for most common problems or questions.
[08:49] <holycow> lol
[08:49] <holycow> oh man
[08:49] <holycow> amazing
[08:51] <combo> - where i can edit kubuntu start-up programs? i mean the programs that will be launched just after logging in ? :)
[08:52] <holycow> thats in the session manager
[08:52] <holycow> i just don't know where that is in kde
[08:52] <arunkale> combo: kmenu > system settings > advanced > session manager
[08:52] <combo> but i cannot find it
[08:53] <combo> arunkale: yes, yes , iknow
[08:53] <combo> arunkale: but i can't find this option there :/
[08:53] <arunkale> combo: check in system services
[08:54] <combo> checking out....
[08:55] <dromer> aarg, my system just recovered from a kernel panic (getting these more often lately) .. any ideas on how to find out what happened and how te prevent it?
[08:55] <holycow> my kde just remembers what was running if if i shut it down and starts it up
[08:55] <holycow> heh
[08:55] <holycow> i gotta figure out how to configure kde properly there are A LOT of settings everywhere
[08:55] <combo> arunkale: ok, found that - thanks a lot ;)
[08:55] <Gun_Monkey> crap, just forgot where the ftp program is
[08:55] <holycow> Gun_Monkey: konqueror
[08:55] <Gun_Monkey> hmm, tried that, but I didn't see an FTP connect option
[08:55] <Gun_Monkey> let me look again
[08:56] <holycow> ftp://user@ip.add.re.ss:port
[08:56] <arunkale> combo: no problem
[08:56] <arunkale> brb
[08:56] <chx> hi i have a 4693522403 file which i need to write on a data dvd. please advice. k3b complains about that it can't add bigger than 4.0G
[08:57] <Gun_Monkey> if its windows, you have to download a shell script
[08:57] <holycow> well that file is 4.6 gig
[08:57] <holycow> so yes
[08:57] <holycow> you need to get a bigger dvd
[08:58] <chx> no, no, it does not add to the data dvd project
[08:58] <holycow> well that still makes sense
[08:59] <chx> i guess it does
[08:59] <chx> ancient standards
[08:59] <chx> but i have Linux
[08:59] <holycow> so do all ofus
[08:59] <Gun_Monkey> hmm, still not finding the ftp option
[08:59] <holycow> :)
[08:59] <chx> I would guess it can overcome this
[08:59] <holycow> i haven't used k3bb in like years so can't suggest an alternative except gnome baker
[09:00] <chx> let me ask another way
[09:00] <chx> how can i put UDF on a dvd?
[09:02] <chx> udftools ah
[09:02] <chx> how lovely everything is an apt-get away :)
[09:02] <holycow> life is easy on the dark side eh?
[09:03] <holycow> whats with allthe people joining and leaving?
[09:04] <dolemite01> Anyone awake atm?
[09:05] <holycow> dolemite!
[09:05] <holycow> heh cool nick
[09:05] <dolemite01> thanks
[09:05] <Gun_Monkey> I am
[09:06] <dolemite01> im installing kubuntu feisty 7.04 from the livecd, i have windowsxp on there now, in the step where it wants to parition, so im going to do manual
[09:06] <Gun_Monkey> but I'm trying to get ftp working
[09:06] <dolemite01> i can't find a wiki on this tho
[09:06] <Gun_Monkey> funny I've seen it a hundred times when I didn't need it
[09:06] <Gun_Monkey> now that I do, I can't remember how to get to it
[09:08] <holycow> brother its just konqueror
[09:08] <holycow> ftp://user@ip:port
[09:08] <holycow> what part of that doesn't work for you?
[09:08] <holycow> i just did ftp://ftp.debian.org to test and works great
[09:08] <Gun_Monkey> the finding it part
[09:08] <Gun_Monkey> heh
[09:08] <holycow> finding what?
[09:08] <holycow> konqueror?
[09:08] <Gun_Monkey> there is no standalone ftp client?
[09:08] <holycow> hit alt / f2
[09:08] <holycow> typ-e in konqueror
[09:09] <holycow> jesuse stop already!
[09:09] <holycow> stop the ftp client windows nonsense
[09:09] <holycow> konqueror does ftp, ssh and pretty much everything under the sun
[09:09] <Gun_Monkey> considering I just started using linux, I could use a little slack
[09:09] <holycow> ctrl / l to split the konq window into two vertically to get the standard client layout
[09:09] <holycow> Gun_Monkey: okay sorry :)
[09:10] <holycow> lets try this again, you can't find  konqueror?
[09:10] <dolemite01> any ideas on the dual booting question?
[09:10] <dolemite01> http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=feistydual06rw5.png
[09:10] <dolemite01> i dont have those options
[09:10] <Gun_Monkey> I have konqueror open
[09:10] <dolemite01> Mine are : Guided - use entire disk, guided -use the largets amount of free space, or manual
[09:11] <holycow>  just type in ftp://ftp.debian.org in the address bar to test
[09:11] <holycow> it should connect you right away
[09:11] <chx>  sudo mkudffs /dev/pktcdvd/dvd
[09:11] <chx> Segmentation fault
[09:11] <chx> i got this far
[09:11] <chx> now I am out of ideas.
[09:11] <holycow> you can press ctrl / l to get standard ftp left/right layout
[09:11] <holycow> sorry
[09:11] <holycow> its ctrl / shift / l
[09:12] <holycow> dolemite01: you might take automatic setup instead of manual because your primary partition probably needs resizing
[09:13] <holycow> dolemite01: however question for you, have you backed up all your windows stuff?
[09:13] <dolemite01> yes
[09:13] <holycow> this is the part where people erase their windows partitions because they aren't sure of the consequences of the choices they make
[09:13] <holycow> okay
[09:13] <holycow> :)
[09:13] <holycow> just checking
[09:13] <dolemite01> whenever i choose guided - continous space
[09:13] <holycow> chx: i don't know what udf is or what to do with it, sorry
[09:14] <dolemite01> i get an error: Failed to partition the selected disk
[09:14] <Gun_Monkey> bingo, got it working with my ftp server
[09:14] <Gun_Monkey> thanks holycow
[09:14] <holycow> dolemite01: it looks like its not seeing your windows partitions maybe ... i don't know
[09:14] <holycow> Gun_Monkey: no problem dude, remember in kde every single app has access to every single network connection type through kparts
[09:15] <holycow> Gun_Monkey: so on kde, there is no need for an ftp client
[09:15] <Gun_Monkey> I shall do that
[09:15] <Gun_Monkey> I honestly like kubuntu far more than windows
[09:15] <holycow> konqueror can ftp back and forth all you want
[09:15] <holycow> infact
[09:15] <kraut> moin
[09:15] <holycow> let me give you a hing
[09:15] <holycow> ctrl / shift / l  and ctrl / shift / t
[09:15] <holycow> you can use those to split up konquereor windows
[09:16] <holycow> in each window you can connect to a different network space
[09:16] <holycow> in one you can do ftp for example
[09:16] <holycow> in another you can connect to an ssh account
[09:16] <holycow> in andother you can connect to a samba share
[09:16] <holycow> and you can move files back and forth however you want between those
[09:16] <holycow> welcome to the dark side
[09:16] <holycow> you have great power at your fingertips
[09:17] <Gun_Monkey> heh
[09:17] <Gun_Monkey> thanks
[09:17] <Gun_Monkey> does ctl-shift-t close the extra windows?
[09:17] <holycow> no
[09:17] <holycow> it splits the window horizontally
[09:17] <holycow> while the other one splits it vertically
[09:18] <Gun_Monkey> ah, I see
[09:18] <holycow> the point of that tutorial was to get you to think about universal access to any random network component
[09:18] <holycow> instead of the garbage windows idea that you need an ftp client and you cant move files between ftp and ssh for example
[09:18] <Gun_Monkey> hmm
[09:19] <adenicio> why do adept crash everytime when it's about to instal paque?
[09:19] <Gun_Monkey> I need to spend a lot more time with this
[09:20] <holycow> adenicio: kde apps are VERY VERY crashy
[09:20] <holycow> all of them
[09:20] <holycow> i would recommend installing and upgrading via command line if your is that unstable
[09:21] <adenicio> holycow: so how do i know if it install or not.it makin me wast time installin things for nothing
[09:21] <holycow> if it crashes you don't know
[09:21] <holycow> install via command line
[09:22] <pag> adenicio, apt-cache policy packagename  tells if the package is installed or not
[09:22] <holycow> pag: ah good point forgot about that
[09:25] <holycow> Gun_Monkey: also, konqueror happens to be a web  browser
[09:25] <holycow> lol
[09:25] <holycow> its really a swiss army knife
[09:26] <holycow> its one of the most amazing tools i've run into
[09:30] <celeste> anyone awake?
[09:32] <holycow> lots of people entering and leaving
[09:32] <celeste> I'm trrying to dl amsn any ideas on how i would go about installing the tar.gz?
[09:32] <celeste> I'm newber that n00b
[09:32] <holycow> this is the most bizarre channel traffic i've ever seen
[09:32] <holycow> celeste: why download it?
[09:32] <holycow> kubuntu and ubuntu have all the software you will need in a central repository
[09:33] <holycow> kill your download and delete that file
[09:34] <holycow> celeste looking for rest of information
[09:35] <pag> !info amsn
[09:35] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.96+dfsg1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 2488 kB, installed size 9108 kB
[09:35] <holycow> celeste: you probably don't want to use amsn
[09:35] <holycow> its not a very good client
[09:35] <pag> celeste, enable universe (if it isn't already enabled) and type " sudo apt-get install amsn " into the konsole
[09:35] <holycow> you should try installing gaim, it does gtalk, msn, aim and lots of other networks
[09:36] <holycow> i would instead try using adept package manager instead and install gaim, much much better client
[09:36] <pag> holycow, you're right, but it's one of the very few in which ie. file transfer work
[09:36] <holycow> *nod*
[09:36] <pag> holycow, Kopete rocks \,,/  ;)
[09:37] <holycow> oh haven't tried that yet, yes try kopete as well too
[09:37] <holycow> pag: good point :)
[09:37] <holycow> sorry i come from gnome very recently i haven't learned all th ekde apps
[09:37] <holycow> :)
[09:38] <pag> celeste, I'd personally reccomend you KMess if you need only msn, KMess has pretty much everything needed for average user, and it's a KDE app, so it also looks far nicer than amsn
[09:38] <lorolol> hi
[09:38] <lorolol> why XINE konqueror plug-in isn't working?
[09:38] <lorolol> just axing
[09:38] <lorolol> mplayer works fine
[09:39] <lorolol> I'd like EVERYTHING to work flawlessly
[09:39] <holycow> axing?
[09:39] <holycow> you mean asking
[09:39] <combo> - if i made something wrong in xorg.conf (i wanted to install AIGLX) and i backed it up how can i restore it ? kubuntu doesn't work - there is only black screen ... ?
[09:39] <holycow> i don't think anyone here knows what axing is
[09:39] <lorolol> ax is ghetto style
[09:39] <pag> combo, ctrl+alt+f1  gets you to a console
[09:39] <lorolol> or aks
[09:39] <lorolol> aksing
[09:39] <holycow> combo: there is some odd stuff happening with kdm, i had to switch to gdm to resolve those issues
[09:40] <holycow> combo: not sure what that is.  with kdm still installed i had to reboot to get the login form once again
[09:40] <lorolol> so anybody know why Xine isn't working as a plugin?
[09:40] <lorolol> why is then listed in Konqueror if isn't working?
[09:40] <holycow> lorolol: flawlessly is a mighty high standard
[09:40] <combo> ok, i think i'm gonna make it ;) thanks a lot ^^
[09:40] <lorolol> that makes no sense
[09:41] <holycow> lorolol: why don't you ask the xine plugin developers instead of bothering us with esoteric nonsense?
[09:41] <lorolol> holycow: mplayer works
[09:41] <holycow> why are you using xine anyway?
[09:41] <holycow> mplayer is better
[09:41] <pag> combo, log in from there, type  "sudo apt-get install irssi" and come that way to chat with us  or if you know exact locations, then  sudo cp /path/to/backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf  should also work
[09:41] <lorolol> why shan't Xine?
[09:41] <holycow> because we don't support xine, kapish?
[09:42] <holycow> we support installing ubuntu and minor user issues
[09:42] <holycow> that is a question for the xine developers
[09:42] <holycow> ask them
[09:42] <holycow> i appreciate you want perfection, that would be great, you are just asking the wrong people, thats all
[09:42] <combo> pag, oh no, no! i've just modded xorg.conf, and i'm doing startX now. but last time when i made it i had to have a format of hdd :D
[09:42] <combo> pag, so i'm asking you guys for the future what to do, how to fix it :D
[09:43] <holycow> combo: well i removed kdm and installed gdm
[09:43] <pag> combo, oh.. so as I said.. copy the backup over the original, and you'll be fine :)
[09:43] <combo> and the future is just now :) see ya soon  - CTRL+ALT+BCKSPC :)
[09:43] <holycow> i haven't had time to look into a kdm specific fix
[09:43] <george2002> http://www.fotozone.es/foto/31,2007/fotozone_103074.jpg venezuela
[09:43] <combo> pag, i 've just coppied :)
[09:43] <pag> holycow, why? :O  KDM works just fine  (in fact, better than GDM)
[09:44] <holycow> pag: you can't restart it
[09:44] <holycow> it just hangs and does some absolutely bizarre stuff
[09:45] <holycow> i was actually dissapointed, i haven't been happy with gdm at all
[09:45] <lorolol> holycow: that's a not a preofessionl attitude. Should be, "we apologize for the incovenince and thanks for bring that up we will forward the issue with Xine as soon as possble to the proper department and ensure that WILL WORK FLAWLESSLY with the fine Kubuntu distro. We will notify you of the progress." Your answer sounds of a mediocre person that's content with a borken system, just like m$$$
[09:46] <holycow> lorolol: you are welcome to ask for a refund
[09:46] <holycow> this is a community not a business
[09:46] <holycow> no one here gets paid
[09:46] <holycow> thus its much more productive to expect speaking to a human than a customer service robot monkey
[09:46] <holycow> and frankly i owe you nothing
[09:46] <lorolol> holycow: that doesn't mean stuff should be borked. The community should strife for the best
[09:47] <holycow> lorolol: what do you expect me to do about it?
[09:47] <holycow> if you want to pay me, i would be happy to put on the happy customer service monkey face that peretends to care
[09:47] <holycow> however this is a community, you are right it should work
[09:47] <lorolol> don't know
[09:48] <holycow> as part of the community it is now part of your responsibility to track down the dev team and use their communication protocol to let them know there is an issue
[09:48] <Gun_Monkey> internet radio isn't as good as it used to be
[09:48] <holycow> lorolol: i only sound like a jerk because windows users are trained that 'customers are always right'
[09:48] <lorolol> true
[09:48] <holycow> even when they didn't pay for anything
[09:48] <holycow> it just rubs me the wrong way thats all, my appologies
[09:49] <holycow> i really should of just said this is the wrong channel for that issue, while it should be taken care of and i agree
[09:49] <pag> holycow, no one expects *you* to do anything about it - you still shouldn't say "we don't support $unworkingThing"  since we support pretty much everything related to (k)ubuntu...
[09:49] <dolemite01> well on one hand ubuntu/kubuntu attempts to tout itself as the david against the MS Goliath, so when people find its flaws it merely allows them to back the Goliath who almost always wins, otherwise when it didn't, why would they have put it in the bible?
[09:49] <holycow> pag: i will deffer to that, i'm learning the protocols
[09:49] <holycow> lorolol: i stand corrected
[09:49] <lorolol> isn't Xine Amaroks main engine?
[09:50] <Gun_Monkey> gotta restart
[09:50] <lorolol> xine=Amarok=qt=kde=xine=Kaffeine=k3b
[09:50] <lorolol> mm... is not that they are completely DETACHED thigns
[09:50] <lorolol> things
[09:50] <holycow> dolemite01: i really don't think we should position our self as alternative to ms
[09:50] <pag> lorolol, amarok uses xine - yes.
[09:50] <dolemite01> lorolol might i suggest $ sudo apt-get install vista thx
[09:50] <lorolol> that's mainly WHY I found it strange
[09:50] <lorolol> that's all
[09:50] <holycow> i think we  have our own strengths and weaknesses
[09:51] <lorolol> didn't mean to bitch
[09:51] <holycow> our greatest strength is FREEDOM and i thin kthat is what we should be selling
[09:52] <lorolol> actually what I do, whenever someone comes to me for assitance. The first thing I do is wipe out m$$ XP without axing.
[09:52] <lorolol> That's my policy
[09:52] <holycow> lorolol: no problem :) you mean well
[09:52] <holycow> lorolol: do me a favour hawever, stop typing axing
[09:52] <lorolol> if they don't like it go to Best Buy pay $300 for configuring your shitty McAffe firewall
[09:52] <holycow> do you reinstall winxp or install linux?
[09:53] <lorolol> linux
[09:53] <holycow> lorolol: actually you are correct about that
[09:53] <lorolol> I wipe out XP and put linux
[09:53] <holycow> its cheaper to buy a new win box at wallmart than to have it professionally reinstalled
[09:53] <lorolol> although recalcitrant in the beggining they actually end up liking it
[09:53] <holycow> to do it right takes about 4 hours if you are lucky in terms of transferring all their data and have all the software cds to install
[09:54] <dolemite01> whats that supposed to say reluctant?
[09:54] <dolemite01> if so you f'd that word up all to hell
[09:55] <lorolol> dolemite01: actually recalcitrant cause they m$$ XP attachment/brainwashing annoys me the hell out of me
[09:55] <holycow> lorolol: although its probably a bit rude to wipe out their xp and install linux
[09:55] <lorolol> although I don't start ranting about, I remain pretty calm
[09:55] <dolemite01> new rule: you can't use big words then mispell a small word next to it
[09:55] <holycow> lol
[09:55] <combo> pag, thanks the Lord that u told me to use CTRL+ALT+F1... else i had to have a HDD format again :] 
[09:55] <lorolol> I know is rude, too bad :-D
[09:55] <holycow> dolemite01: haha
[09:56] <posingaspopular> how do i get the sound/volume icon back to where it was before
[09:56] <dolemite01> i suppose if you were a mechanic and one had a person who forgot to change their oil in the BMW, you'd force them to drive away in a taurus?
[09:56] <lorolol> holycow: besides believe it or not many if not all EXPECT YOU to find a freaking pirated copy of XP
[09:56] <lorolol> that's what gets me
[09:56] <posingaspopular> ? in kubuntu fesity, there used to be a volume knob next to the clock, and now i can't find it or figureout how to put it back
[09:56] <holycow> add the system tray to your panel, or move system tray to right position
[09:56] <lorolol> and I am supposed to brake a leg find all the drivers, locate a pirated copy and so and so?
[09:57] <pag> posingaspopular, add applet to the panel -> sound mixer (or something like that)
[09:57] <holycow> lorolol: ah if its pirated yeah, there mgiht be something to that idea
[09:57] <holycow> you don't have a choice then
[09:57] <holycow> you haveto refuse to install even if they provide the cd
[09:57] <pag> !offtopic | holycow, lorolol
[09:57] <ubotu> holycow, lorolol: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[09:57] <holycow> true true sorry
[09:58] <lorolol> by the way I have no qualms about using pirated m$$ XP :-DDD. In fact is the only way I would use XP at all
[09:58] <holycow> i refuse to pay them a dime my self but i don't use their stuff
[09:58] <posingaspopular> whoa that messed up somehow
[09:58] <lorolol> I APOLOGIZE!!! PLEASE DON'T KICKE ME!!
[09:58] <holycow> oh wait offtopic haha got me
[09:58] <combo> pag, can u examine what is wrong with my XORG.xonf ?! (ATI Radeon 9600)   http://wklej.org/id/19b1899847   i had to restored my previous file... r u acquainted with xy ? :)
[09:58] <dolemite01> so if the Kubuntu doesnt find the windows install during the guided setup, what are my options
[09:59] <dolemite01> QTParedit finds it, i might just resize windows partition with that and let kubuntu find the free space, see what happens
[09:59] <dolemite01> would that be best case?
[09:59] <lorolol> dolemite01: forget about XP??
[09:59] <holycow> yes it would dolemite01
[09:59] <pag> combo, sorry... could you rephrase the last part of your sentece, I didn't understand it
[09:59] <posingaspopular> that's the right one, but it looks horrible
[09:59] <lorolol> any tricks that I am forgetting about full fledge K installation?
[09:59] <dolemite01> dude seriously, its ok to not like xp, but trying to make ppl converts isnt cool either
[09:59] <lorolol> oh I know I have a problem with audacity
[10:00] <dolemite01> i have to use XP for school, OneNote has no equivalent in linux, and some testing software is windows only, just how it is
[10:00] <lorolol> it says that it doesn't have an output device
[10:00] <lorolol> dolemite01: I enjoy it
[10:00] <combo> pag, it meaned something like 'do you know how to change xorg.conf so it can works' ? :)
[10:01] <pag> combo, umm... Does ati support aixgl?  I've heard their closed driver doesn't, do you happen to know about OS?
[10:01] <combo> pag, - and also AIGLX work
[10:01] <pag> combo, so now X doesn't launch at all?
[10:01] <combo> last month when i had Ubuntu AIGLX (with Beryl) works very well
[10:02] <combo> pag, yes
[10:02] <combo> pag, now i changed OS on Kubuntu, and i can't fix it
[10:02] <pag> combo, does it give any errors?
[10:02] <posingaspopular> got it. thanks pag
[10:03] <dolemite01> qtparted is saying drive has one bad sector, so it wont resize :/ any idea what else i could use to resize it
[10:03] <combo> pag, nope, only black screen and text cursor blinkink in the left corner
[10:03] <pag> combo, ok.. and does it start with "startx" command?
[10:03] <combo> i didn't tried
[10:03] <lorolol> audacity isn't working
[10:03] <combo> pag, i just pushed CTRL+ALT+F1 (as u told me) and restored backup file
[10:03] <pag> combo, try, since it should give some errors
[10:04] <lorolol> any ideas?
[10:04] <pag> lorolol, disable arts
[10:04] <combo> pag, ok... brb
[10:04] <combo> pag, oh... one more when i'm pushing CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE it doesn't work... :]  i have to reboot all the system
[10:05] <combo> pag, it shows black screen with this text cursor and nothing works
[10:05] <pag> combo, even after backspace ctrl+alt+f1 should work..
[10:05] <holycow> combo: try reinstalling kd maybe?
[10:05] <combo> pag, after launchong console this way (CTRL+ALT+F1) ... let's see
[10:05] <holycow> kdm even
[10:06] <lorolol> pag: where
[10:06] <lorolol> so /dev/dsp output in audacity is ok?
[10:06] <lorolol> where do I disable arts GLOBALLY?
[10:06] <lorolol> is a poain the... to go app by app
[10:06] <pag> lorolol, somewhere in the kcontrol
[10:07] <pag> sound & multimedia -> sound system -> take the tick from the box "enable Sound Sys."
[10:08] <pag> lorolol, remember, that you have to re-enable it after you're done with adacity
[10:10] <lorolol> pag: are you talking about Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[10:10] <lorolol> pag: I don't see Sound and Multimedia
[10:11] <pag> lorolol, Kubuntu...
[10:11] <pag> lorolol, alt+f2 and type kcontrol
[10:18] <combo> pag: after STARTX in console it gives some text... a lot of text and the last 2 lines (i notified) is:   http://wklej.org/id/b3e0cf60a5   -it doens't work at all :/
[10:20] <frySt> kcontrol ownz, very good control centre... only thing that makes me sad that i wont recognise my gameport/sidewinder
[10:20] <Simon_Lost> hi peeps
[10:21] <frySt> hi
[10:21] <pag> combo, sorry, I don't know what might be causing that problem
[10:21] <Gun_Monkey> anyone know a good streaming music station?>
[10:21] <Simon_Lost> talking about problems, I can't get feasty fawn to completely shut down a pc
[10:22] <frySt> Gun_Monkey  i recommend u to try streamtuner
[10:22] <Simon_Lost> and not even login as root
[10:22] <frySt> nice tool and you can even record
[10:22] <combo> pag, ok... but thanks anyway u were trying :)
[10:22] <frySt> Simon_Lost  that souns really weird, maybe try magicSysRQ?
[10:23] <pag> Simon_Lost, whenb you press the shutdown it gives you the black screen?
[10:23] <Simon_Lost> when I ask for a shutdown, I get to the Kubuntu screen with the empty bar
[10:23] <Simon_Lost> and stays there
[10:24] <pag> Simon_Lost, hmm... might be the same issue - try adding force=acpi  to kernel bootline and see if that helps
[10:24] <Simon_Lost> ah yes about this
[10:24] <Simon_Lost> I would gladly do it
[10:24] <lorolol> hi
[10:25] <Simon_Lost> but I could not access to root  accreditation
[10:25] <lorolol> Firefox says NO-VIDEO when playing stream online!!! Both Konqueror and Opera work fine!!
[10:25] <pag> Simon_Lost, sudo ;)
[10:25] <waylandbill> !root
[10:25] <Simon_Lost> I confess my noobness
[10:25] <ubotu> do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:25] <pag> Simon_Lost, so you'll need  kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:26] <frySt> ..and if it still wont shutdown try alt+print+O
[10:26] <Simon_Lost> I will try it right away
[10:26] <dogg> what is a program i can get to convert wma's to mp3
[10:27] <Simon_Lost> funny thing is mylaptop does great, I am on it right now on kubuntu
[10:27] <pag> Simon_Lost, and btw; that you'll have to reboot before that 'fix' will take effect, so don't expact it to work as soon as you've added it
[10:27] <Simon_Lost> it's a customers' pc which gives me issues
[10:27] <pag> dogg, sounkonverter
[10:27] <Simon_Lost> okidokes
[10:28] <pag> dogg, you'll also need lame and maybe w32codecs
[10:29] <dogg> where do i get those? synaptic?
[10:29] <Gun_Monkey> heh, still practicing installations on linux
[10:29] <pag> dogg, synaptic / adpet/ apt-get  you choose :)
[10:30] <pag> adept even
[10:30] <dak> hrm
[10:30] <yotux> is there any way to fix this "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
[10:32] <holycow> hahahaha
[10:32] <holycow> you assholes
[10:32] <holycow> you got me with the ctrl / print / o
[10:32] <holycow> hehehe
[10:32] <holycow> :)
[10:32] <holycow> v v good
[10:32] <holycow> i dind't know about that
[10:35] <Simon_Lost> mmm
[10:35] <arun_> i removed the taskbar from the panel, how do i add it back
[10:36] <Simon_Lost> my kernel line already has acpi=off do I replace this or simply add at the end of the ine
[10:36] <lorolol> mplayer Apple streams says (NO VIDEO) then it crashes
[10:36] <lorolol> any ideas?
[10:36] <Simon_Lost> line
[10:36] <pag> arun_, right click on panel -> add applet -> taskbar
[10:37] <arun_> excellent, thanks pag
[10:37] <pag> Simon_Lost, I don't know.. you'll have to try.. start with removing that line and see if it works then - if it doesn't try forcing acpi etc..
[10:38] <lorolol> the same with OPERA only konqueror works with Apple Trailers
[10:38] <lorolol> is this some sort of sabotage?
[10:39] <frySt> holycow  u arent ment to tryout everything :p
[10:39] <holycow> that was trully funny, i completely wasn't expecting it to do that
[10:39] <frySt> magic sys rq is great if system hangs and wont let it shut down or smth .. send commands directly to the kernel
[10:39] <arun_> wow my entire panel looks sexy now
[10:40] <bjwebb> hi where is the home icon located
[10:40] <arun_> with transparency and everything
[10:40] <holycow> frySt: is that what it does?
[10:40] <bjwebb> the actual picture
[10:40] <lorolol> oddly enough now mplayer internet plugin now is working with Xine instead of Mplayer
[10:40] <holycow> its such a bloody strange shortcut
[10:40] <arun_> but it seems to be pseudo-transparency.. which sucks.. any ideas?
[10:40] <frySt> afaik, im not an expert but i think i read this on wikipedia :>
[10:40] <holycow> frySt: so if your system completely hangs that should get it
[10:40] <frySt> u can do alt+print+h and look in console to see what other options are avail.
[10:40] <holycow> i doubt it will work if the kernel has oopsed, kb won't be getting any input to the kernel
[10:41] <dogg> im trying to use my bluetooth file transfer program on my friends cell phone but it wont locate his phone
[10:42] <frySt> still i want to play sonic with my gamepad but it wont work :(
[10:42] <lorolol> ok it's working now!!!
[10:42] <lorolol> kewl
[10:42] <lorolol> :-)
[10:42] <lorolol> HOTT!
[10:43] <holycow> frySt: i orderdere one of these --> http://www.geekstuff4u.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=521
[10:43] <holycow> i'll be playing all of those on emulators
[10:44] <frySt> unfortunately i dont got that kind of money :( poor student
[10:45] <frySt> i dont even have TV set so i made roms from my old sega genesis games and now want to play them on linux
[10:45] <frySt> everything worked fine, except for the freaking gamepad
[10:45] <frySt> neither original genesis pad nor my old MS sidewinder
[10:46] <arun_> how do i remove the frame around the kpf icon on the panel?
[10:46] <frySt> and I did everything i could think of and read every how-to that i found
[10:49] <arun_> can i have the taskbar separate from the panel?
[10:54] <frySt> arun_  u can and its not that hard to find
[10:55] <frySt> add to panel.... external taskbar
[10:55] <arun_> frySt: i dont see an external taskbar
[10:55] <arun_> option
[10:56] <arun_> ahh add new panel, you mean
[10:56] <arun_> nice
[10:56] <frySt> jeah i ment :o
[10:57] <arun_> i wish the panel had real transparency and not just pseudo transparency
[10:58] <holycow> kde4 should change a lot of that
[10:58] <holycow> kwin is supposed to have built in everything  beryl is going for
[10:58] <arun_> kde4 will have real transparency?
[10:58] <holycow> well kwin is recreating beryl/compiz
[10:58] <holycow> thus everything will inherit whatever it has
[10:59] <arun_> and that will be without bugs? native effects and transparency?
[10:59] <holycow> when is kde ever without bugs?
[10:59] <holycow> if you have few hundred million lying around feel to donate to properly fund dev teams tho
[11:00] <arun_> i don't have any bugs right now
[11:00] <arun_> everything works nicely
[11:01] <arun_> brb
[11:02] <holycow> dumbass
[11:03] <frySt> :>
[11:03] <frySt> most important think how the panel looks
[11:03] <frySt> -k+g
[11:04] <celeste> Thanks you people are AWESOME
[11:04] <frySt> ^^
[11:05] <celeste> now,  does anyone know of a messenger program for linux
[11:05] <dogg> my Ktorrent crashed due to Signal 11, how do i fix that? i went to bugs.kde.org but it isn't helping me
[11:05] <celeste> that allows you to video chat?
[11:07] <frySt> i think kopete is able to do this but im not 100% sure :>
[11:07] <frySt> newer owned a webcam :<
[11:09] <arun> when i apply shadows to windows, the shadows apply to the bouncing icons as well (the ones that appear when you launch a program)
[11:09] <arun> is there anyway to disable the shadows for just the icons?
[11:10] <grizm> dogg, here are the newest ktorrent packages; http://ktorrent.org/index.php?page=downloads
[11:11] <celeste> how do i add terminal to my open with drop down menu in mozilla?
[11:11] <celeste> sorry "open with"
[11:13] <frySt> hm
[11:13] <frySt> what you mean by that?
[11:13] <dogg> grizm> can i use apt-get to install that
[11:14] <frySt> on the site, it says so
[11:14] <celeste> i mean
[11:15] <celeste> how do I source terminal so it shows up where "archive manager" does?
[11:15] <grizm> dogg> no, you download the package, opena terminal and type; sudo dpkg -i ktorrent****
[11:15] <celeste> in the drop down menu
[11:16] <frySt> i still dont get you, maybe its me, im a bit stupid sometimes hehehehe :(
[11:16] <frySt> what drop down menu exactly?
[11:17] <jerware> hi
[11:17] <jerware> i have a problem with vlc.  it play all wmv files except for the cbt nuggets.
[11:17] <frySt> hi there
[11:17] <frySt> i dont know what cbt nuggets are, but have you tried mplayer?
[11:17] <lorolol> hi
[11:18] <dogg> grizm> it said "dpkg: error processing ktorrent (--install)"
[11:18] <lorolol> in genereal for instance digikam-doc <--- are these docs for developers or for user as a manual?
[11:18] <lorolol> thanks
[11:18] <lorolol> I see that a lot
[11:18] <frySt> doc for users, -dev-doc and -dbg-doc is there too
[11:18] <grizm> dogg, did you download the correct package?
[11:19] <dogg> maybe not let me check
[11:20] <lorolol> can someone answer my question pelase?
[11:20] <lorolol> I'd appreciate it
[11:20] <frySt> i tried to, maybe u overlooked it
[11:20] <Simon_Lost> it's getting worse iiiiirk
[11:20] <lorolol> frySt: oh my bad
[11:20] <lorolol> ok thanks
[11:21] <lorolol> frySt:  so are those helpuful for n00b ppl?
[11:21] <Simon_Lost> if I change the "acpi=off" in the kernel line then I get a double blinking on my keyb at bootup and kubuntu won't load
[11:21] <lorolol> wine is there more like for placebo effect right?
[11:21] <frySt> :>
[11:21] <dogg> grizm> ok i got it installed thanks
[11:21] <frySt> depends, I personally almost never install them :>
[11:21] <lorolol> since everytime I ax here for help in installing those I am scared away about catching viruses and so on
[11:22] <grizm> no prob
[11:22] <frySt> but most of the time they contain usefull info
[11:22] <lorolol> besides everything that wine runs is mad old
[11:22] <frySt> depends on the software in question too
[11:22] <frySt> not each piece is selfexplanatory..
[11:22] <lorolol> frySt: I don't no stinky docs, prolly man pages sometimes
[11:23] <frySt> :>
[11:23] <lorolol> *need
[11:23] <frySt> right.. who needs help for gui tools
[11:23] <frySt> "apply: this button appies the current settings"
[11:24] <frySt> "close: this button terminates the application"
[11:24] <frySt> i say: "OH, REALLY?!"
[11:25] <lorolol> I made a rather stupid mistake I made a separate partition 1G for /var and 500MB for / . Now /tmp is inside / and I realize a lot multimedia apps use /tmp for processing HUGE amounts of data
[11:25] <lorolol> and I only got free for /tmp like 200MB
[11:25] <lorolol> how can I mount /tmp inside /var?
[11:25] <lorolol> something like this /var/tmp
[11:25] <lorolol> thanks
[11:26] <lorolol> even /var with 1G doesn't look very good for like Video and Music processing
[11:26] <grizm> lorolol, many apps let you specify a tmp file
[11:28] <arun> where can i install the tango icon set from
[11:28] <adydas> quick question, am i right in reading online you can get 2 x ide drives and use mdadm to do raid?
[11:28] <lorolol> grizm: ok
[11:28] <lorolol> why audacity keeps complaining about no audio device found even though I set kcontrol to use ALSA?
[11:28] <lorolol> please help
[11:28] <holycow> adydas: yes
[11:28] <lorolol> I am sick of this
[11:29] <grizm> lorolol, you have to stop the artsd server for audacity
[11:29] <lorolol> lorolol: but I don't have that as default
[11:29] <grizm> it probably stiull runs as a daemon
[11:30] <jerware> mplayer gives an error saying "Error selecting video output device"
[11:30] <jerware> doesent it work out of the box?
[11:31] <grizm> lorolol, first try "killall artsd" in a terminal before starting audacity
[11:31] <Mouseball> Anyone have an article on how to install winrar? i can't find it in the lists on adept
[11:31] <arun> anyone here using the tango icon theme?
[11:31] <Ace2016> HI all
[11:32] <arun> Hey Ace2016
[11:32] <Simon_Lost> dang it, this is not working
[11:32] <Ace2016> how do i read from a UDF disk?
[11:32] <lorolol> grizm: ok I did it. But how do I remove farts for good?
[11:33] <lorolol> grizm: still same error
[11:34] <grizm> lorolol, http://www-users.york.ac.uk/~raa110/audacity/linux.html#alsa
[11:35] <lorolol> grizm: thanks
[11:37] <grizm> lorolol, some more tips; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Audacity
[11:37] <combo> how can i install JRE on firefox ?  i downloaded *.bin file extracted it and what now? how can i do 'ln -s'? (i have Kubuntu 7.04 amd64)
[11:38] <lorolol> fusking retarded, how the hell is audacity still using OSS. I mean cmon is not that there is shortage of ALSA coding out there
[11:39] <grizm> :-)
[11:44] <lorolol> !fonts
[11:44] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[11:46] <Mouseball> !winrar
[11:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winrar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:47] <lorolol> Mouseball: it's unrar
[11:47] <arun> where will the icon themes i've installed be located?
[11:48] <lorolol> !restricted
[11:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:48] <frySt> /usr/share/icons/ or /pixmaps
[11:53] <Novell> anyone know how I can limit what commands a user can run with kdesu ? It doesn't honor the ones defined in /etc/sudoers, had to add kdesu_stub for it to even work at all
[11:53] <Gun_Monkey> time for sleep
[11:55] <Simon_Lost> hmmm question
[11:56] <Simon_Lost> are mkv and ogm vids functionning on kubuntu
[11:56] <dvm> i have download the dsl-n. How can i install it on USB drive? Please refer me some URLs
[11:58] <frySt> prolly the dsl-n homepage?
[11:58] <Mouseball> sorry if someone answered already, got disconnected. Is there an equivalent to windows process explorer?
[11:58] <frySt> and if it works the way dsl does its more than easy.. just boot the live cd and use the install to usb stick option
[11:59] <lorolol> there is a package that isn't xine-extracodecs but under another name... I forgot, can someone help me out here?
[12:01] <lorolol> got it
[12:01] <lorolol> ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:03] <lorolol> ok am I forgetgin anything else in terms of codecs and restricted formats?
[12:03] <lorolol> what are quicktime codecs?
[12:04] <frySt> apple quicktime .mov
[12:04] <frySt> almost as stupid as /wmv or .rm
[12:05] <lorolol> I know that, I mean what package has them
[12:05] <frySt> mplayer plays them for me
[12:06] <Simon_Lost> ok I'll have to try
[12:06] <lemacs> Any ZFS filesystem user here?
[12:07] <frySt> ah
[12:07] <frySt> the package u need is w32codecs
[12:08] <frySt> but be aware that it is not legal everywhere to install it
[12:08] <frySt> thats also why they are not installed out of the box
[12:15] <Scorpaen> i need help with GRUB install, please
[12:15] <Scorpaen> my root drive is on a promise ultra133tx2 so it shows up as /dev/sda3
[12:16] <Scorpaen> i need some advice
[12:16] <Scorpaen> i am using a custom built kernel, stripped down for size
[12:16] <Scorpaen> on GG a3
[12:17] <Scorpaen> anyone awake?
[12:20] <jtrz> sda3
[12:20] <jtrz> and grub
[12:24] <NiceGuyUK> anyone know the correct mount comand line to mount my ntfs drive as RW ?
[12:30] <NiceGuyUK> !ntfs
[12:30] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:34] <marckie> !envy
[12:34] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[12:35] <arun> what's wrong with audacity
[12:35] <pag> arun, it's ugly.. no other problems I can recall
[12:36] <marckie> has anybody installed envy?
[12:36] <marckie> i wanna install nvidia driver but am hesitant with envy
[12:36] <marckie> it says here that it crashes pc
[12:36] <marckie> !envy
[12:36] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[12:37] <pag> marckie, install the driver official way?
[12:38] <arun> pag: yeah, it's ugly :)
[12:38] <arun> would anyone be able to tell me that when you right click a .deb file and select install package, which font appears in the resulting installer window
[12:38] <arun> i love it
[12:41] <incorrect> is there a qt based ldap browser?
[12:41] <Lynoure> arun: there was some font site that would detect the font based on a screenshot...
[12:46] <arun> doesnt seem to be installed on my computer
[12:47] <nicolai_> marckie: If you need an easy way to install the nvidia driver I suggest using KDE's own method
[12:48] <arun> frostwire doesnt run for me.. any suggestions?
[12:48] <marckie> nicolai: well I guess you're right
[12:48] <pag> arun, you have java?
[12:48] <arun> pag: i'm assuming i do, since i can run azureus
[12:48] <marckie> no one else knows Kubuntu but Kubuntu... right?
[12:48] <pag> !frostwire | arun
[12:48] <ubotu> arun: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[12:49] <nicolas_> Hi, I've got a Davicom Semiconductor 21x4x DEC-Tulip compatible 10/100 Ethernet pci card but it doesn't work. I've googled and all I found was old info about the tulip and dmfe modules (they all said to unload tulip and load dmfe, but that was fixed in dapper).
[12:49] <nicolas_> How do I get it to work?
[12:50] <nicolai_> marckie: First install nvidia-glx, then go to system settings -> monitor and display -> hardware -> admin -> configure -> proprietary
[12:50] <arun> pag: i tried the solution mentioned there, but i dont get any alternatives with 'sun' in them
[12:52] <pag> nicolas_, hmm maybe " sudo modprobe -r tulip && sudo modprobe dmfe "
[12:52] <pag> arun, so install sun-java6-jre
[12:52] <nicolas_> pag tulip isn't loaded, dmfe is
[12:52] <arun> pag: i tried, it says doesnt exist
[12:52] <arun> i have multiverse enabled
[12:52] <pag> nicolas_, oh.. hmm... try the other way around? :P
[12:53] <pag> arun, are you running 64bit?
[12:53] <arun> 32bit
[12:53] <nicolas_> pag: already did, it's worse, it doesn't even detect there's a net card
[12:53] <pag> arun, does " apt-cache searct sun-java " output anything?
[12:54] <arun>  it says 'frostwire - a truly free and open source...'
[12:55] <pag> nicolas_, ok.. so doesn't it work at all, or just some specific programm (ie. konq. has caused problems due the knetworkmanager)
[12:55] <nicolas_> pag: doesn
[12:55] <nicolas_> pag: doesn't work at all
[12:55] <nicolai_> marckie: did it work?
[12:57] <arun> is frostwire worth downloading? as in, does it work well?
[12:59] <pag> nicolas_, ok.. try; " sudo rmmod tulip; sudo rmmod dmfe; sudo modprobe dmfe; sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart "
[01:01] <marckie> nicolai: sorry for the delayed reply... well im still configuring everything
[01:01] <marckie> I will be posting updates if all will be good...
[01:01] <marckie> thanks!
[01:01] <nicolas_> pag: it doesn't an IP
[01:02] <nicolas_> pag: I know the rest of the network is okay because in win dhcp worked
[01:02] <nicolas_> pag: and the other pc has linux and runs okay, so the router is okay
[01:04] <nicolas_> pag: it doesn't get an IP
[01:04] <pag> nicolas_, ok.. sorry, but I'm out of ideas.
[01:05] <nicolas_> pag: thanks for your help
[01:07] <nicolas_> pag: I found out... the network admin had a MAC filter...Sorry for all the trouble. Gonna kill him >(
[01:08] <pag> nicolas_, np :)
[01:08] <Nahi> hello
[01:08] <Nahi> can someone help me in a laptop battery monitoring problem ?
[01:09] <frySt> hi, i wonder if its possible to check wheter my soundcards gameport is broken
[01:09] <maverick_> anyone knows about this issue, how can i disable fsck 1.40-wip from starting on boot?!
[01:09] <arun> Hey Nahi
[01:09] <Nahi> hello arun
[01:09] <arun> Nahi: what laptop battery monitoring problem
[01:10] <Nahi> i have a problem when i unplug my laptop my battery monitor keeps showing its charging and when its not doing that its take a lot of time to tell me switching to battery mode or to ac mode like 3 -6 mins
[01:10] <pag> maverick_, you want to disable it totally or just not to check your HDs?
[01:10] <arun> which laptop do you have?
[01:10] <Nahi> i have hp compaq nx9000
[01:12] <Nahi> i've unplug it for 5 mins now and it still showing its plugged in
[01:12] <maverick_> pag: not to check my HDs
[01:12] <pag> maverick_, iirc you can disable it in fstab...
[01:13] <pag> maverick_, probably the last number of the line should be changed to 0
[01:14] <maverick_> pag: any idea how to edit the fstab file?!\
[01:14] <pag> maverick_, kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[01:14] <maverick_> thank you
[01:14] <maverick_> pag: thank you
[01:14] <Gentine> Shit, jews.
[01:14] <pag> maverick_, I'm not sure it it works, so don't thank me before it does ;)
[01:15] <arun> For some reason i can't type anything into the frostwire search boxes
[01:15] <pag> !language | Gentine
[01:15] <ubotu> Gentine: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:15] <arun> if i type something it doesnt show
[01:15] <arun> but the cursor blinks
[01:15] <arun> why is that
[01:15] <Nahi> hello:  i have a problem when i unplug my laptop my battery monitor keeps showing its charging and when its not doing that its take a lot of time to tell me switching to battery mode or to ac mode like 3 -6 mins
[01:15] <maverick_> pag: i'll restart now and see...brb
[01:16] <Gentine> ubuntu.
[01:16] <Gentine> Ubun2
[01:20] <maverick_> pag: thx, it worked.
[01:23] <Nahi> hello:  i have a problem when i unplug my laptop my battery monitor keeps showing its charging and when its not doing that its take a lot of time to tell me switching to battery mode or to ac mode like 3 -6 mins
[01:28] <icefox> Would it be possible to get the iceweasle packages in kubuntu?
[01:28] <Ragol> has anyone else tried burning cds/dvds with current lenovo desktop models?
[01:29] <Ragol> I can't use their internal drive, but an external usb-burner works fine
[01:29] <icefox> I mean do I just have to find a dev to maintain the package or is does kubuntu not allow some packages?
[01:29] <arun> Nahi: the power monitor seems to be a bit faulty in some laptops
[01:29] <pag> icefox, you can always start maintaining them yourself - they might even be accepted to Universe :)
[01:30] <Nahi> arun; but when i reboot its runs okay for the next few days then this starts to happen
[01:30] <icefox> Universe?
[01:30] <pag> icefox, community OS repo
[01:30] <icefox> debian already has the packages so it might be as simple as pulling it down to kubuntu
[01:30] <Ragol> I think it's somehow related to the fact, the the cd/dvd-burner is not a ide model anymore, it's using sata...
[01:30] <Ragol> any ideas?
[01:31] <Ragol> or should I just file a bug report with enough information?
[01:31] <Nahi> !seen *!*@auh-b13734.alshamil.net.ae
[01:31] <pag> icefox, true... you can discuss packaging and related stuff on #ubuntu-motu
[01:31] <icefox> ok, thanks
[01:34] <Nahi> would anyone offer me some information please
[01:34] <Nahi> i cant find anything on the forum about this issue
[01:36] <pag> Nahi, I'd love to, but unfortunatly I have no experience in laptops what-so-ever. try asking again in a few hours and maybe someone knows the answer :)
[01:36] <Nahi> okay thank you:>
[01:37] <Nahi> i dont want to reboot when i do it will be fixed but still it will be the same after few days
[01:37] <Nahi> ;p
[01:38] <Nahi> box's uptime is:  06:37:23 up 7 days,  5:44,  1 user,  load average: 0.37, 0.67, 0.92
[01:38] <Nahi> last time it crashed cause of amarok :@
[01:40] <Ragol> so, no one has any info about k3b with sata dvd/cd-burners?
[01:40] <Daller> Can anyone help me setting up a local printer?
[01:41] <Tursi> je tu nejaky cech co se vyzna ?
[01:41] <Daller> My problem is that the "local printer" in system settings is greyed out... how can that be?
[01:42] <pag> !cz | Tursi
[01:42] <ubotu> Tursi: esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[01:42] <Tursi> jo diky
[01:53] <[ifroog] > se7en^Of^9, hi..
[02:02] <jerry> lang leve linux
[02:03] <Nahi> lang leve o.O
[02:03] <Nahi> u mean long live ?
[02:03] <Nahi> ;p
[02:03] <jerry> hehe, i tought it was a dutch channel
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> nah.... thats chinese for "die soon"
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[02:04] <Nahi> looooooooool
[02:04] <Nahi> konishiwa
[02:04] <jerry> hehe
[02:04] <Nahi> thats japanese for how r u
[02:04] <Nahi> loool
[02:04] <jerry> i'm now a proud linux only user
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> kounwi!
[02:04] <jerry> fuck windows
[02:04] <Nahi> jerry; hell yeh ;p
[02:04] <Nahi> windows sux
[02:04] <jerry> i only use a virtual machine for photoshop :-)
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> which is nosrednaekim-oriental for "quit the crap"
[02:05] <Nahi> plus anyone seen vista?
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> indeed I have.... its not all that bad.
[02:05] <Nahi> its a mixture of *nix/mac in one
[02:05] <Nahi> but it sux
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> in looks.
[02:05] <Nahi> lol
[02:05] <jerry> vista sux also] 
[02:05] <Nahi> yeh
[02:05] <jerry> user right damn crapy
[02:05] <jerry> *rights
[02:06] <Nahi> all microsoft ever did was copy other people ideas
[02:06] <Nahi> LOSERS
[02:06] <jerry> linux ideas also
[02:06] <jerry> stupid fucks
[02:06] <pag> guys.. I'd like to remind you that this channel should be kept family fiendly - so watch your language please.
[02:06] <Nahi> yes
[02:06] <jerry> oke sorry
[02:06] <Nahi> jerry; yeh no swearing dude
[02:06] <dthacker> ! language | jerry
[02:06] <ubotu> jerry: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:06] <jerry> blame me
[02:06] <Nahi> anyways bill gates sux and microsoft does too ;p
[02:07] <jerry> the package managment is  more powerfull than linux exe files
[02:07] <[ifroog] > Nahi, could you explain :D sounds interesting ..!!
[02:07] <Nahi> after i saw vista im never using windows ever again
[02:08] <jerry> me 2 ;-)
[02:08] <Nahi> first its a copy paste of mac and *nix
[02:08] <Nahi> then it took me 10 mins to connect to wireless network
[02:08] <jerry> i tought no vista for jerry,
[02:08] <jerry> pff
[02:08] <jerry> crappy
[02:08] <Nahi> would not lie and tell u its ugly the graphics are amazing but its all stolen and not originally invented
[02:08] <jerry> the soundblaster live 5.1 is not support anymore
[02:09] <jerry> in linux it works great and it is a good audioplate :P
[02:09] <Nahi> yeh a lot of stuff isn't compatible
[02:09] <frySt> now just tell me how to get gamepad going on oldass sb live! player 1024
[02:09] <frySt> :)
[02:09] <frySt> loaded all modules with sudo modprobe like the how-to said
[02:10] <frySt> but nothing worked.. there simply are no /dev/js or /dev/input/js nodes createda
[02:10] <jerry> i dont use the gameport
[02:10] <frySt> and if i try to make them myself it says no device found
[02:10] <frySt> i have to use it
[02:10] <jerry> do you game in linux?
[02:10] <frySt> yeah :>
[02:10] <runlevelten> God yeah
[02:10] <jerry> i game Ut2004
[02:11] <frySt> me quakeworld and q3a
[02:11] <jerry> nice
[02:11] <frySt> and oldass sega roms
[02:11] <frySt> but it sux without the gamepad
[02:11] <jerry> my feeling in linux is that everything is smoother
[02:11] <jerry> windows lags verry much when you install crappy software
[02:11] <frySt> .i.e. ms updates
[02:12] <jerry> hehe al the articles on internet sometimes, windows crashes by microsoft updater ***lollll
[02:12] <frySt> update should be renamed into spyware-installer
[02:12] <frySt> :>
[02:13] <jerry> microsoft-lag-installer
[02:13] <Nahi> lol
[02:13] <frySt> hehe ure dutch, with that @home cable
[02:13] <runlevelten> arrrrrrgggg.
[02:13] <jerry> payed-crap-installer
[02:13] <frySt> used to have that too, until recently when i moved to aachen
[02:13] <jerry> how do you mean @home cable? no problem with that
[02:13] <runlevelten> Anyone found pylint+eric3 broken in feisty?
[02:13] <frySt> me neither
[02:14] <pag> !offtopic | jerry, frySt
[02:14] <ubotu> jerry, frySt: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:14] <frySt> rox, very fast but u can see user-id in ip
[02:14] <frySt> that sux.
[02:14] <frySt> but i dont have it anymore because i moved to germany
[02:14] <frySt> hee
[02:15] <marckie> whats up?
[02:15] <marckie> what's better?
[02:15] <marckie> synaptic or adept?
[02:15] <marckie> i like both...
[02:15] <frySt> 6 hours solid waste in trying to fix that gamepad/joystick under linux, THATS up
[02:15] <jerry> im off, bye people
[02:15] <frySt> goede middach
[02:15] <jerry> some 2 you
[02:16] <marckie> haha...
[02:16] <runlevelten> !better | marckie
[02:16] <ubotu> marckie: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[02:16] <pag> marckie, synaptic has more options than adept iirc... apt is best (imho) :)
[02:16] <marckie> yeah i guess so...
[02:16] <runlevelten> I think synaptic is a lot better than adept - nicer interface, more stable.
[02:16] <marckie> i also use apt when im in a hurry..
[02:17] <runlevelten> I also think it should be standard in kubuntu.
[02:17] <marckie> mmmm...
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> no, Adept IS better.
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> but synaptic is a little easier to sue
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> *use
[02:18] <frySt> apt-get moo
[02:18] <frySt> ;)
[02:19] <marckie> does anybody used the compiz fusion with the aquarium thinggy?
[02:19] <marckie> haha...
[02:19] <pag> aptitude moo  is funnier :)
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> marckie: haha heard about that.... i'm waiting until compiz fusion is stable...
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> did you see the paper airplane plugin?
[02:21] <Daller> How do I move kmails accounts to a new computer?
[02:22] <nick_> 
[02:22] <marckie> nosrednaekim: well i really wanted to try it out...
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> kmail's settings and mail is stored in ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail
[02:23] <Daller> I moved the entire directory to the new computer, but the passwords seems to be lost!
[02:23] <marckie> Linux is so... great i cant wait...
[02:23] <frySt> '>
[02:23] <Daller> The passwords are NOT saved in kwallet, by the way!
[02:23] <frySt> it can be a pita too
[02:23] <frySt> but its certainly fun
[02:24] <pag> Daller, ~/kde/share/config/kmailrc  maybe?
[02:25] <marckie> Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player.
[02:25] <marckie> I have that error in Firefox
[02:25] <marckie> I already installed the swf (flash player)
[02:25] <pag> !flash | marckie
[02:25] <marckie> Cant watch flash in web
[02:25] <ubotu> marckie: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:26] <Daller> pag> thank you! - you just saved my day!
[02:26] <pag> np :)
[02:27] <yotux> can anyone offer some help with this: bin/sh: Can't access tty;
[02:30] <Daller> Is anyone familiar with the "greyed out"-issue in creating a printer in system settings?
[02:36] <Daller> When I start the printer-wizard from system settings, I can't select "local printer" because it's greyed out...
[02:36] <Daller> ...The printer is supported! (It runs fine on my old computer)
[02:36] <Daller> Any ideas?
[02:37] <pag> Daller, not sure... maybe it requiers root-priveledges
[02:38] <Daller> I've tried that also... not any better... Weird issue...
[02:39] <Daller> But what may be that cause for this behaviour?
[02:39] <Daller> ...could it be that it doesn't recognize any printer on my usb/parallel ports?
[02:40] <Simon_Templar> hi again
[02:40] <Simon_Templar> not like I enjoy it but I need to open two ports
[02:40] <Daller> The printer is connected with a USB-Parallel converter (which I also checked on another machine!)
[02:41] <Simon_Templar> how would I tell ubuntu to do this ?
[02:41] <tfreire> I was able to build fop without hassle on my system. Now, I would liek to make a .deb package, and possibly contribute it to the ubuntu repositories. Can anyone point me on the right directions?
[02:42] <pag> !packaging | tfreire
[02:42] <ubotu> tfreire: The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports
[02:44] <tfreire> thx
[02:48] <nhoca> hi
[02:48] <Daller> Problem adding printer: When I start the printer-wizard from system settings, I can't select "local printer" because it's greyed out...
[02:48] <pag> hello nhoca :)
[02:49] <hatter> i have an icon on the desktop that i cant delete, if i right click on it it says ~/home/user/Desktop/tsclient.desktop has an invalid menu entry    full.
[02:49] <pag> hatter, try selecting it and pressing shift+del
[02:50] <hatter> pag, that did it , thx
[02:50] <hatter> do u know why that error ?
[02:50] <pag> hatter, I have no idea :D it was just a lucky guess
[02:53] <Nahi> hello:  i have a problem when i unplug my laptop my battery monitor keeps showing its charging
[02:54] <nhoca> Nahi, try to wait a little bit. In my laptop sometimes it takes a bit to realise the battery has been unplugged
[02:54] <Nahi> nhoca; i wanted for 30 mins
[02:54] <Nahi> usually it shows directly
[02:54] <Nahi> but now its not
[02:55] <nhoca> oh...ok
[02:55] <nhoca> try to reinstall the power manager
[02:55] <Daller> Nahi: Is your battery recognized?
[02:55] <Nahi> yes
[02:55] <Nahi> it was working last night
[02:55] <Nahi> now its not
[02:56] <Daller> Hmm... did you upgrade?
[02:56] <Nahi> yes
[02:56] <Nahi> full upgrades
[02:56] <genii> Aaah upgrades
[02:56] <Daller> Well, and what version of *ubuntu?
[02:57] <Daller> Nahi: 6.06, 7.04 or 7.10 ?
[02:58] <Nahi> 7.04 i guess
[02:58] <Roey> whoah, weird
[02:58] <Roey> I just read
[02:58] <Nahi> yes 7.04
[02:58] <Nahi> ;p
 full upgrades
 Aaah upgrades
[02:58] <Roey> *<Nahi>
[02:58] <Roey> as
[02:59] <Nahi> root@sanctuary:~# lsb_release -a
[02:59] <Nahi> No LSB modules are available.
[02:59] <Nahi> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[02:59] <Nahi> Description:    Ubuntu 7.04
[02:59] <Nahi> Release:        7.04
[02:59] <Nahi> Codename:       feisty
 allah upgrades
[02:59] <Roey> weird.
[02:59] <Nahi> didn't know the have a new release thow
[02:59] <Daller> Nahi: 7.04 upgrades are supposed to be stable... That's weird!
[02:59] <Roey> b/c genii comes from djinn in arabic
[02:59] <Nahi> Daller; well if i reboot it will work
[02:59] <Roey> and full + aah  sort of sounds like allah.
[02:59] <genii> Roey :)
[02:59] <Nahi> then after few days same problem
[02:59] <Daller> New release every 6 months (if done)
[03:00] <Daller> Nahi: Was that a question?
[03:00] <Roey> genii:  There should be a word for interesting misreadings from two or more independent chatters
[03:00] <genii> dist upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 is mostly painless but when from an earlier version if you try to shortcut it, causes some grief
[03:00] <Roey> genii:  will the upgrade to gutsy gibbon be seamless?
[03:00] <Nahi> my battery monitor keeps showing 100% even when unplugged
[03:01] <Daller> So it's periodic... Damn... It seems like a battery recognition issue...
[03:01] <genii> Roey: Since 6.10 there is an upgrade manager so if not seamless then at least not excruciating
[03:02] <Nahi> Daller; no it was working for yesterday
[03:02] <Daller> genii: apt-get dist-upgrade is the only way! - The GUI's are really buggy!
[03:02] <Nahi> now its not
[03:02] <Daller> Nahi: But rebooting helped?
[03:02] <Nahi> yes
[03:02] <Daller> Nahi: I have no idea...
[03:02] <Nahi> which i will not do cause i really want some background processes to stay running
[03:03] <Daller> Nahi: please run "cat /proc/battery" (I'm not at a laptop, so I might be wrong!)
[03:03] <Nahi> root@sanctuary:~# cat /proc/battery
[03:03] <Nahi> cat: /proc/battery: No such file or directory
[03:04] <Daller> Hmm... can you autocomplete?
[03:04] <Nahi> sorry ?
[03:04] <Daller> When you write it, you can press "Tab" several times, to make it autocomplete...
[03:05] <Daller> Try autocompleting with "cat /proc/"
[03:05] <Nahi> nothing related to battery
[03:05] <Daller> christen@christen-desktop:~$ cat /proc/Display all 162 possibilities? (y or n)
[03:05] <Daller> ...and press "y" and post the output! (a lot)
[03:05] <Nahi> yes
[03:06] <Nahi> i did that
[03:06] <Nahi> nothing related to battery
[03:06] <llutz> Nahi: /proc/acpi/battery
[03:06] <Nahi> root@sanctuary:~# cat /proc/acpi/battery
[03:06] <Nahi> cat: /proc/acpi/battery: Is a directory
[03:06] <Daller> Ilutz: Thank you!
[03:06] <Daller> Nahi: Autocomplete...
[03:07] <Nahi> okay
[03:07] <Nahi> info alarm state
[03:07] <Daller> Nahi: state
[03:07] <Daller> Nahi: or info...
[03:08] <Daller> Nahi: If this says 100% and "plugged in" the ACPI itself is bugged
[03:08] <Nahi> present:                 yes
[03:08] <Nahi> design capacity:         4400 mAh
[03:08] <Nahi> last full capacity:      2016 mAh
[03:08] <Nahi> battery technology:      rechargeable
[03:08] <Nahi> design voltage:          14800 mV
[03:08] <Nahi> design capacity warning: 300 mAh
[03:08] <Nahi> design capacity low:     200 mAh
[03:08] <Nahi> capacity granularity 1:  32 mAh
[03:08] <runlevelten> !pastebin
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[03:08] <Nahi> capacity granularity 2:  32 mAh
[03:08] <Nahi> model number:            01KT
[03:08] <Nahi> serial number:           7
[03:08] <Nahi> battery type:            LION
[03:09] <Nahi> OEM info:                SMP-PA
[03:09] <Nahi> oh sorry
[03:09] <Nahi> lol
[03:09] <Daller> Nahi: Pretty old laptop?
[03:09] <hatter> how do i make sure beryl starts on reboot ?
[03:09] <Nahi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31904/
[03:10] <Nahi> Daller; no
[03:10] <Nahi> its hp compaq nx9000
[03:10] <Daller> Nahi: Your battery is less that 50% efficient!
[03:10] <Nahi> its 2.0M intel
[03:10] <pag> hatter, ln -s /usr/bin/beryl-manager ~/.kde/Autostart  ?
[03:10] <Daller> Nahi: Was that the output from both /info and /state?
[03:10] <stdin> Nahi: check if /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/ADP0/state exists
[03:11] <Nahi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31904/
[03:11] <Nahi> check
[03:11] <Nahi> the first one i pased here was info
[03:11] <Nahi> that one on pastebin is state
[03:11] <Nahi> oc/acpi/ac_adapter/ADP0/state: No such file or directory
[03:12] <Daller> And it's plugged in?
[03:12] <stdin> Nahi: anything in /proc/acpi/ac_adapter ?
[03:12] <hatter> pag, ah cool, i didnt know about the kde autostart
[03:12] <Nahi> root@sanctuary:~# /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/ACAD/
[03:12] <Nahi> bash: /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/ACAD/: is a directory
[03:12] <hatter> pag, thx
[03:12] <pag> hatter, np :)
[03:13] <stdin> Nahi: put "ls /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/ADP0/state"
[03:13] <Nahi> root@sanctuary:~# ls /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/ADP0/state
[03:13] <Nahi> ls: /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/ADP0/state: No such file or directory
 Roey: Since 6.10 there is an upgrade manager so if not seamless then at least not excruciating
[03:13] <Roey> oh good
[03:14] <Roey> There is something that bothers me, though
[03:14] <Daller> Problem adding printer: When I start the printer-wizard from system settings, I can't select "local printer" because it's greyed out...
[03:14] <stdin> Nahi: ok, "ls /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/" ?
[03:14] <Roey> The Qt-KDE style really clobbers xchat's tab highlighting
[03:14] <Nahi> root@sanctuary:~# ls /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/
[03:14] <Nahi> ACAD
[03:14] <Roey> AscendedDaniel:  interesting nick
[03:14] <Roey> AscendedDaniel:  New to GNU/Linux?
[03:15] <stdin> Nahi: ok, what about "cat /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/ACAD/state" ?
[03:15] <Nahi> root@sanctuary:~# cat /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/ACAD/state
[03:15] <Nahi> state:                   on-line
[03:15] <stdin> Nahi: is the AC plugged in?
[03:15] <Nahi> yes
[03:15] <Nahi> i'll plug it out
[03:16] <stdin> Nahi: see if the state changes after
[03:16] <Nahi> still showing on-line
[03:16] <stdin> wait a sec, and try again
[03:16] <Nahi> even the icon keeps showing its plugged
[03:16] <stdin> still saying "on-line" ?
[03:17] <Nahi> yes
[03:17] <stdin> hmm, seem that ACPI isn't working properly then
[03:17] <Nahi> can i kill it and restart it ?
[03:18] <stdin> no, it's not a service it's built in to the BIOS
[03:18] <Nahi> oh
[03:18] <Nahi> i dont want to reboot
[03:18] <Nahi> :(
[03:18] <stdin> I doubt you could fix it
[03:19] <Nahi> but it was working before i dunno why its not now
[03:19] <stdin> have you recently updated the kernel?
[03:19] <Nahi> no
[03:19] <Nahi> no kernel updates for 7.04
[03:19] <Nahi> i updated iptables
[03:19] <Nahi> few days ago
[03:19] <Nahi> i did full upgrades when i installed it
[03:20] <Nahi> and no kernel upgrades since then
[03:20] <Daller> Nahi: Did you reboot at all since upgrade?
[03:20] <Nahi> yes i did
[03:20] <Nahi> only when i do kernel upgrades
[03:21] <Simon_LOst> awright
[03:22] <evandrocg> ceara
[03:22] <Simon_LOst> <i installed firestarted and specified it to let things thru  the 2 ports I want to use
[03:22] <Simon_LOst> but still filetopia says no network
[03:22] <Simon_LOst> suggestions very welcome x___x
[03:23] <stdin> Simon_LOst: behind a router?
[03:24] <Simon_LOst> yes but both ports open on that router too, I made sure about it
[03:24] <Simon_LOst> bothudp and tcp, on the router
[03:24] <stdin> you forwarded the ports to your internal IP?
[03:25] <Simon_LOst> to the machine's IP? yes
[03:25] <Simon_LOst> but in kubuntu how to set it so tcp and undp are opened on these ports I found no way
[03:25] <stdin> and firestarter will just confuse you, it's not really needed when you have a router
[03:26] <Simon_LOst> what would you suggest to me ? :)
[03:27] <stdin> make sure you have set the right ports to be forwarded, you don't have to do anything to "open" a port on kubuntu, it will open what ever ports it needs
[03:28] <Simon_LOst> well... in my router they sure are forwarded
[03:28] <Simon_LOst> but still I get told no network
[03:29] <Simon_LOst> only with this app
[03:29] <Simon_LOst> Filetopia
[03:29] <stdin> it's something to do with that app then, see if it has a FAQ or forum
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> Did an install on this box and am getting an error 21 with grub.. How annoying.
[03:46] <rouzic> Hi
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> got an ide drive and a sata drive. Im thinking that the OS has them in one order,. and grub sees them in the other order.
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> Howdy
[03:46] <rouzic> Does someone know which is the license of Kubuntu's logo?
[03:47] <pag> rouzic, http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
[03:47] <rouzic> thanks pag :)
[03:49] <ninHer> hi all
[03:50] <pag> hi :)
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> amazing how fast one can install Linux to a box. :)
[03:57] <cloakable> Yus
[03:58] <genii> Dr_Willis: Too bad about the grub thing. I had lately to set the bios in compatability modse for the sata so it looks like an IDE tot he OS
[03:58] <genii> bleh typos
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> genii: yea - not sure if its a grub config issue.. or if its a bios/pc issue. this is an older machine. one of the first that came out with IDE and sata. I cant recall ever hav ing it boot any os off the sata disk
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> i added a 250gb ide drive to it. :) got it booting from there. will use the 500gb sata as home i guess. :)
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> .75TB of storage . weee...
[04:01] <genii> Dr_Willis: Even terabytes of space get chewed up fast nowadats, storing video etc etc ...
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> Yep.
[04:01] <genii> *nowadays*
[04:02] <guybrush> hi
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> picked up  500gb hd's for $100 - that will keep me for a while
[04:02] <genii> I need more coffee :)
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> My / was a 30gb hd!
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> now its a 250 :) plus added 500gb for /home
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> i can replace my huge stack of hd's for $100 which is nice.
[04:02] <genii> Yup
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> now it will take me a week to move all the stuff over to the 500gb hd.
[04:03] <llutz> are the 500s that slow? ;)
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> the other drives are now on the network box. via USB
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> plus i need to take the time to sort all the junk and remove the duplicate stuff
[04:04] <cloakable> Dr_Willis: What are you going to use a 250GB / for? My / is 20GB of a 40GB disk.
[04:04] <guybrush> i've got a problem with my msi us54se usb wlan stick. it should have a zd1211b chipset, which supposedly works without tinkering. however I can't cennct to my AP (with WPA2). I tried to configure wpa_supplicant, but it does work right
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> it really sucks space whenyou accidently have 2  whole copies of a 60 eposide tv series.
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> cloakable:
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> Mythtv :)
[04:04] <guybrush> *doesn't*
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> my 40gb was full.. - the storage drive for mythtv was almost full
[04:05] <llutz> if i remove all junk/duplicates i don't need even a 20gb hdd ...
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> Now the 40gb is going into an ide enclosure - for 'special' video storage. :)
[04:06] <knowledge25k> hello everibody
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> hi
[04:07] <knowledge25k> can anybody help me with some problem im having ?
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> depends on the problem. :)
[04:10] <knowledge25k> i keep reciving & error message,every time i try to download something
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> download with what.. and whats the message (or summary of them)
[04:12] <trakinas> !es
[04:12] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:13] <knowledge25k> like synaptic  temminal
[04:14] <knowledge25k> r u still here
[04:14] <cloakable> Dr_Willis: Ahhh XD
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> Im right here.. you are not being very clear...
[04:15] <pag> knowledge25k, what kind of errors?
[04:15] <trakinas> does anyone here speak spanish? I just need help translating a song, not with ubuntu. :P
[04:16] <knowledge25k> anything that i try to download i recive & error from synaptic
[04:16] <NightBird> knowledge25k: what is the error?
[04:17] <genii> trakina Why not just use something like babelfish online translator?
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> so lets calrify this. 'you are trying to install new packages from synaptic, and you are unable to download the packages' ?
[04:17] <knowledge25k> like a sudo error
[04:17] <trakinas> genii: because I need it precisely. i know what the song means, but i need a good tanslation.
[04:18] <pag> knowledge25k, 'like a'? incorrect password or what?
[04:18] <trakinas> part of the song makes no sense at all translated by those online tools and also it does not translate some words
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> knowledge25k:  you did run synaptic with 'sudo' or ksudo, or whatever its called.. 'gksu' ?
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> !kdesu
[04:18] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> kdesu synaptic    - is the proper way to run synaptic
[04:18] <pag> knowledge25k, or something related to /var/lock ?
[04:19] <pawan> hi
[04:20] <pag> !hi | pawan
[04:20] <ubotu> pawan: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[04:20] <knowledge25k> i try tat everytihing. everything i try i recive & error message
[04:21] <pag> knowledge25k, what does the error say?
[04:22] <s0nix> it's funny. "Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application>" ...... but 50% of time i want tu use kdesu...... the dialog for asking password did never show ..
[04:23] <pag> s0nix, well that's a bug (pretty wellknown too iirc)
[04:23] <knowledge25k> hello
[04:24] <[ifr0g] > Can't find kernel build files in /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-386/build;
[04:24] <s0nix> is it that hard to fix ? ;P
[04:24] <[ifr0g] > what am i missing ??
[04:25] <wilman> hey guys, i have a quickcam communicate but it is not detected bij my ubuntu edgy, i have installed the drivers etc but it just does'nt detect it, what to do?
[04:25] <spawn57> is that a really really really new webcam?
[04:26] <knowledge25k> hi;
[04:26] <knowledge25k> i need help
[04:27] <BluesKaj> !ask
[04:27] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:28] <BlindSide> s0nix: gksu never fails ;)
[04:28] <Daller> Problem setting up a printer: Local printer greyed out in printer-wizard!
[04:30] <s0nix> BlindSide: ohh i know that :) ...... is this ok if i use gksudo under kde?
[04:30] <BlindSide> no idea
[04:30] <BlindSide> haha
[04:30] <BlindSide> (ubuntu user)
[04:30] <s0nix> :P
[04:30] <s0nix> so, what r u doing here !!
[04:30] <BlindSide> im sure it will run if u install it however
[04:30] <s0nix> hehe, just kidding
[04:30] <trakinas> s0nix: guess there isnt
[04:30] <BluesKaj> use kdesu in the command box
[04:30] <BlindSide> since i am uisng konversation right now
[04:31] <Daller> s0nix: gksudo runs well under KDE
[04:31] <BlindSide> yeah i wud think so
[04:31] <trakinas> i use a lot of gtk based softwares.
[04:31] <s0nix> perfect
[04:31] <trakinas> not a loooooooot, but many of my fav are gtk... hehe
[04:31] <s0nix> like?
[04:31] <s0nix> im curious
[04:32] <Daller> Is there a printer-guru present?
[04:32] <batchaas> bonsoir a tous
[04:32] <Daller> ...I'm setting up a Dell Dimension C521, and the only issued remaining, is installing the printer...
[04:32] <BluesKaj> well, if you want to edit files such as sourceslist etc kdesu kate in the run command dialog box is thew way to go
[04:32] <pag> !fr | batchaas
[04:32] <ubotu> batchaas: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:32] <s0nix> batchaas: #kubuntu-fr
[04:33] <batchaas> ok
[04:33] <CaptainApathy> hm..
[04:33] <knowledge25k> any body know what that mean?Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1
[04:34] <trakinas> !pastebin | knowledge25k
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[04:35] <BluesKaj> knowledge25k:  what were you trying to install ?
[04:35] <genii> Daller Exactly what make/model is the printer. Also does it do other things like scan, fax etc
[04:36] <Daller> It's a HP Deskjet 5550 - and it runs flawlessly on another kubuntu machine... (same version)
[04:36] <Daller> genii: The option "local printer" is greyed out in the printer-wizard! - what can that mean?
[04:36] <genii> Daller TCP type?
[04:37] <Daller> genii: TCP type? - huh? - It's local parallel
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> I got a little parralel port printer->network gizmo the other day. Turned my 10 yr old laser into a network laser! ;) handy
[04:40] <Daller> genii: I'm replacing an older pc with a Dell Dimension C521, and need to setup the printer on the new pc...
[04:40] <Daller> genii: ...but it seems weird that it worked on the other pc, but not this...
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> perhaps an ecp/parallel port setting in the biox.
[04:41] <Daller> genii: But is the "greyed out"-issue due to no printers recognized, or what may cause this behaviour?
[04:41] <llutz> Daller: check if cups is running
[04:41] <Daller> llutz: it is!
[04:42] <llutz> Daller: have you tried to add the printer in the cups-webfrontend?
[04:42] <Daller> It's running through a USB-parallel converter, which is also working (tested on the other machine)
[04:43] <Daller> llutz: I can't select "local" there either...
[04:43] <s0nix> the "Open with" with the checkbox REMEMBER application association is supposed to work? (video file)
[04:44] <Daller> I can select these device-types:
[04:44] <Daller> <SELECT NAME="DEVICE_URI"><OPTION VALUE="socket" >AppSocket/HP JetDirect </OPTION><OPTION VALUE="beh" >Backend Error Handler </OPTION><OPTION VALUE="bluetooth" >Bluetooth printer </OPTION><OPTION VALUE="hpfax" >HP Fax (HPLIP) </OPTION><OPTION VALUE="hp" >HP Printer (HPLIP) </OPTION><OPTION VALUE="http" >Internet Printing Protocol (http) </OPTION><OPTION VALUE="ipp" >Internet Printing Protocol (ipp) </OPTION><OPTION VALUE="lpd" >LPD/LPR Hos
[04:44] <Daller> Printer </OPTION><OPTION VALUE="smb" >Windows Printer via SAMBA </OPTION></SELECT>
[04:45] <trakinas> !pastebin | Daller
[04:45] <ubotu> Daller: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:45] <BluesKaj> Daller:  are you networked with the other pc ?
[04:46] <genii> sorry for lag, work AFK
[04:46] <Daller> BluesKaj: No, and the other PC is about to be disconnected and removed from the house...
[04:46] <Daller> Here's the choices from cups: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31918/
[04:50] <awi> hi, all
[04:51] <awi> please, help me with via 6410 raid
[04:54] <Daller> http://localhost:631 is inaccessible on the old machine... Can I check if cupsys is running?
[04:54] <jhutchins> Daller: Need to modprobe the parallel port driver.
[04:55] <Daller> jhutchins: Any ideas what module?
[04:55] <knowledge25k> anybody know what that is?Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1
[04:56] <Daller> knowledge25k: can we have the rest of the error message?
[04:57] <BluesKaj> Daller , since there no linux drivers available for the printer , using cups is the way to go ...it emulates the windows drivers and makes the printer work ASFAIK . I'm using an HP Deskjet 3520 on wife'w windows pc , as a networked printer thru cups
[04:57] <knowledge25k> i'm sorry.
[04:57] <knowledge25k> dpkg: error processing texlive-lang-spanish (--configure):
[04:57] <knowledge25k>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:57] <knowledge25k> Setting up clvm (2.02.06-2ubuntu9) ...
[04:57] <knowledge25k> Starting Cluster LVM Daemon clvmd could not connect to cluster manager
[04:57] <knowledge25k> Consult syslog for more information
[04:57] <knowledge25k> invoke-rc.d: initscript clvm, action "start" failed.
[04:57] <knowledge25k> dpkg: error processing clvm (--configure):
[04:57] <knowledge25k>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 3
[04:57] <knowledge25k> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:57] <knowledge25k>  texlive-lang-spanish
[04:57] <knowledge25k>  clvm
[04:57] <knowledge25k> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:58] <jhutchins> Daller: parport_pc on this one (not ubuntu).
[04:58] <BluesKaj> knowledge25k:  next time use pastebin
[04:58] <jhutchins> !pastebin | knowledge25k
[04:58] <ubotu> knowledge25k: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:59] <Daller> jhutchins: Still greyed out...
[04:59] <jhutchins> Daller: restart cups
[05:01] <Daller> jhutchins: How? - i forgot the command!
[05:01] <jhutchins> /etc/init.d/cupsd restart
[05:02] <Daller> christen@christen-desktop:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/cupsd restartsudo: /etc/init.d/cupsd: command not found
[05:02] <knowledge25k> i keep reciving & error message every time i try to download from synaptic or the root terminal?can anibody help me?
[05:03] <Daller> knowledge25k: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=513230
[05:04] <BluesKaj> knowledge25k:  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:04] <jhutchins> Daller: just cups then, not cupsd.  Use tab completion.
[05:05] <Daller> jhutchins: Still no local printer option!
[05:06] <knowledge25k> i ready have adept manager.i sill recive error message from that to
[05:06] <jhutchins> Daller: So is this thing a usb printer connected via a parallel port adapter, or a parallel port printer connected via a USB adapter?
[05:06] <Daller> jhutchins: To start at the beginning, can I test if the virtual parallel-port has been setup correctly?
[05:06] <BluesKaj> knowledge25k:  is adept open open ?
[05:07] <knowledge25k> what do you mean
[05:07] <Daller> jhutchins: Parallel-printer connected to a usb-port (dimension c521 has no parallel port)
[05:07] <BluesKaj> knowledge25k:  if it is open close it ..then run in the konsole : sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:09] <knowledge25k> i still recive & error
[05:10] <Daller> knowledge25k: have you ran: "sudo apt-get -f install" ???
[05:11] <jhutchins> Daller: Ok, you're going to have to figure out what the USB subsystem should load when the adapter is connected and get that working then.
[05:11] <BluesKaj> ok, knowledge25k ,try this, : sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a , then relogin to the desktop
[05:11] <knowledge25k> yes it say command-not-found: error: no such option: -f
[05:11] <miles> wamp wamp
[05:11] <Daller> The weird thing is that I have a similar setup running on another dimension c521 at work... 7.04, same adapter, etc...
[05:12] <BluesKaj> I suspect that damn adept notifier is doing it's damage again
[05:12] <miles> synaptic > adept
[05:12] <Daller> knowledge25k: Try "sudo aptitude -f install"
[05:12] <knowledge25k> produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more'
[05:13] <BluesKaj> knowledge25k:  do you have synaptic ?
[05:13] <Daller> jhutchins: [20605.704000]  drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 18 if 0 alt 1 proto 2 vid 0x067B pid 0x2305
[05:13] <knowledge25k> yes
[05:14] <BluesKaj> open synaptic, edit/fix broken packages/apply
[05:14] <Daller> knowledge25k: Is it working now?
[05:15] <Daller> jhutchins_lt: [20605.704000]  drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 18 if 0 alt 1 proto 2 vid 0x067B pid 0x2305
[05:16] <Daller> jhutchins_lt: ...from dmesg, and lsusb: Bus 002 Device 018: ID 067b:2305 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2305 Parallel Port ... everything seems to work...
[05:17] <jhutchins_lt> Daller: Except cups.
[05:17] <jhutchins_lt> Try just setting it up as an lp.
[05:17] <knowledge25k> how do i know if it work or not?
[05:18] <Daller> knowledge25k: try installing something!
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> :0
[05:18] <Daller> jhutchins_lt: Wow... how do I do that?
[05:19] <Daller> jhutchins_lt: "LPD/LPR Host or Printer" ?
[05:20] <knowledge25k> texlive-lang-spanish: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[05:21] <pag> knowledge25k, that package is causing problems - I'd remove it.
[05:25] <Daller> jhutchins_lt: /dev/lp0 doesn't exist... isn't that bad?
[05:26] <knowledge25k> how do i rmove it
[05:27] <knowledge25k> i'm having problem removing it
[05:27] <PhinnFort> wtf isn't KDM configured properly by default in Kubuntu?
[05:27] <miles> I am running xubuntu, i just apt-got konqueror, does anyone know where it is located under the application window?
[05:27] <wilman> i have a quickcam communicate installed the drivers and some webcam programs but my computer just does'nt detect the webcam
[05:27] <pag> knowledge25k, try: sudo dpkg -R texlive-lang-spanish
[05:27] <wilman> what to do?
[05:27] <PhinnFort> if you set the right boot manager in KControl, KDM can enable you to select which OS to boot on next reboot
[05:28] <pag> PhinnFort, good point - I think #kubuntu-devel is better place to ask though
[05:28] <Daller> jhutchins_lt: /dev/usblp0 is present! - should i create a symlink? sudo ln -s /dev/usblp0 /dev/lp0
[05:30] <knowledge25k> i recive this. produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !ecive
[05:33] <knowledge25k> i Receive:Options marked [*]  produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !
[05:33] <Daller> jhutchins_lt: If you have any input, please post at the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=512628
[05:34] <lewix> hi
[05:34] <BluesKaj> PhinnFort: it should be in the kicker/internet
[05:34] <pag> knowledge25k, ok... try sudo dpkg -r texlive-lang-spanish   instead
[05:34] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: ?
[05:35] <BluesKaj> NM PhinnFort , i misinterpreted
[05:35] <PhinnFort> ah, ok;)
[05:36] <genii> Back
[05:36] <genii> Did Daller get anywhere with the HP printer?
[05:36] <knowledge25k> nothing
[05:37] <boris_> where can i set that 2 click are required to start application ?
[05:37] <boris_> clicks*
[05:37] <pag> boris_, kcontrol -> peripherals -> mouse
[05:37] <_4str1> hi : i have GPG error: http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com feisty Release ...
[05:37] <BluesKaj> genii: no he left this message: If you have any input, please post at the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=512628
[05:37] <_4str1> where can i find tghis key ?
[05:38] <boris_> aha thank you
[05:38] <genii> BluesKaj: OK, thx
[05:38] <boris_> its little different because im using dapper but i found it
[05:39] <knowledge25k> how do i know if it is remove or not
[05:40] <BluesKaj> genii:  strange prob, i couldn't find any linux drivers at HP , but he had it working on a different kubuntu 7.04 box.
[05:40] <pag> knowledge25k, apt-cache policy texlive-lang-spanish
[05:40] <genii> BluesKaj: Almost all HP will work with just a generic Postscript driver
[05:41] <BluesKaj> yeah, mine does , but it's behind cups so , it's getting windows type messages
[05:41] <miles> bill gates is teh uber no0b hax0r
[05:42] <BluesKaj> genii:  or at least that's the way i unerstand cups works
[05:42] <boris_> how can i stop konqueror showing those yellow squares when i press ctrl ?
[05:42] <BluesKaj> my HP printer is hooked to windows pc on our lil network
[05:43] <knowledge25k> texlive-lang-spanish:
[05:43] <knowledge25k>   Installed: (none)
[05:43] <knowledge25k>   Candidate: 2005.dfsg.2-5
[05:43] <knowledge25k>   Version table:
[05:43] <knowledge25k>      2005.dfsg.2-5 0
[05:43] <knowledge25k>         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe Packages
[05:43] <knowledge25k>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[05:43] <runlevelten> !pastebin
[05:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:43] <pag> knowledge25k, ok.. now everything should work
[05:43] <boris_> how can i stop konqueror showing those yellow squares when i press ctrl ?
[05:44] <genii> BluesKaj: Mostly I have TCP type HP printers so I just tell cups IPP printing, raw Postscript
[05:44] <knowledge25k> now wat should i try
[05:45] <knowledge25k> to see if it is working
[05:45] <philo23> hey guys, i'm trying to access CUPS, i try to click on add new printer, and it simply says i'm not authorised, no login dialog pops up. any ideas?
[05:45] <BluesKaj> genii:  wonder if he has the TCP option ..keeps talking parallel thru USB converter
[05:46] <pag> boris_, it might be in accesibility options, I'm not sure though
[05:47] <genii> BluesKaj: I actually have one of those, it lets you plug in a parallel-port printer to a USB port
[05:47] <boris_> there is one command i have to type in Run Command
[05:47] <knowledge25k> my beryl won't work
[05:47] <boris_> some1 told me what i have to type in before but i had to reinstall system and i forgot it
[05:47] <estoesderisa> !sound
[05:47] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:48] <boris_> !kde commands
[05:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde commands - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:48] <boris_> !konqueror
[05:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konqueror - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:48] <pag> boris_, kwriteconfig --file khtmlrc --group "Access Keys" --key Enabled --type bool false
[05:48] <boris_> ????
[05:48] <boris_> i got dapper
[05:49] <BluesKaj> genii:  my HP 3520 runs off a USB hub on wife's pc ...wonder if Daller has the USB direct option
[05:49] <knowledge25k> can anybody tell me why my beryl won't work?
[05:50] <pag> boris_, well that's the command they tell to do @ http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Hidden%20configuration#_Disable_the_accessibil
[05:50] <BluesKaj> !beryl | knowledge25k
[05:50] <ubotu> knowledge25k: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:51] <genii> BluesKaj: It occurs to me that perhaps he has the same printer plugged in by usb-usb to one computer then by usb-parallel adapter on the second computer
[05:51] <knowledge25k> what is that mean for me
[05:52] <BluesKaj> genii: he has hooked up directly to his new pc , the old one is being taken out
[05:52] <BluesKaj> yes knowledge25k
[05:54] <boris_> ty pag i did it
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> Dang it. My Nero 7 quit working on my windows box.. Anyone know a easy/fast way to convert a .avi to a dvd with linux? :)
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> got a single avi file the wife wants on a dvd.  and of course she wants it NOW....
[05:56] <grizm> sudo set volume wife 0
[05:57] <BluesKaj> Dr_Willis:  fast ? aint no such animal , devede might..prefer tovid tho
[05:57] <llutz> Dr_Willis: avidemux
[05:57] <BluesKaj> or ya could do nerolinux
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> i dident think nerolinux did the dvd/video conversions yet.
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> one of these days i got to get a dvd player for the wife that can play avi/divx files
[05:59] <genii> Dr_Willis: I'm still waiting for the standalone that can do OGG
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> avidemux can convert from avi to 'dvd''s  disk filelayout?
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> Hmmm...
[05:59] <genii> I dunno if mediacoder come for linux
[06:00] <knowledge25k> yes what
[06:00] <me_> hi can anyone help me pls. got everytimes the same error if i try to mount my dvd device: mount: special device /dev/hda does not exist
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> me_:  you srure the dvd  is /dev/hda ?
[06:01] <Ace2016> it won't be hda will it?
[06:01] <Ace2016> ls /dev/hd*
[06:01] <me_> dr_willis: no i am not but in windows its the first ide slot
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> If he has his dvd disk in the first ide cable. first slot..it could be.
[06:01] <Ace2016> and see what drives that shows
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> i normally  use /dev/dvd  :)
[06:01] <Dr_Willis>  ls -l /dev/dvd
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> see whats there
[06:01] <me_> ls: /dev/hd*: No such file or directory
[06:02] <me_> ls: /dev/dvd: No such file or directory
[06:02] <Zee1ot> hi, can someone help me with using my canon powershot sd1000 camera on feisty? it doesnt seem to detect anything
[06:02] <philo23> hey guys, my CUPS seems to acting badly, any one got any ideas, it doesnt prompt me for a login when i try to administer it online then failing saying i need to login. thanks
[06:02] <genii> must be more like /dev/sdX then
[06:02] <Ace2016> would an sata cdrom drive show up as sd
[06:02] <Ace2016> ls /dev/sd*
[06:03] <morphir> devel?
[06:03] <llutz> Ace2016: cdrom would be /dev/scdX
[06:03] <me_>  /dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda3  /dev/sda5
[06:03] <morphir> is this the devel channel for kubuntu?
[06:03] <me_> but thats my harddisk
[06:04] <Ace2016> ls /dev/scd* ??
[06:04] <genii> morphir: No, it's the general channel
[06:04] <aaron_> does anyone know where I coudl find some drivers for an Arheros AT5007EG network card
[06:04] <morphir> #kubuntu-devel
[06:04] <morphir> genii :)
[06:04] <Linux_Noob> I am facing problem with system>pref>desktop effectrs there seem one massage that says composite extension is not available
[06:05] <knowledge25k> i'm still receive error
[06:05] <me_> aaron_: i got the same prob. let me know if u've fixed it
[06:05] <me_> ls: /dev/scd*: No such file or directory
[06:05] <aaron_> i have searched for few days now with little to no luck
[06:05] <Linux_Noob> well I tried everything in the forum and I have downloded Envy but nothing happened
[06:06] <arun> Hey everyone
[06:06] <Ace2016> Linux_Noob: are you trying to install the nvidia driver?
[06:06] <Linux_Noob> no I own an Ati x1600 card
[06:06] <Linux_Noob> any idea
[06:06] <me_> aaron_: i have to fix some other probs. try it later again. have u got a icq number or something like that. maybe we can tell each other if something solved the prob.
[06:07] <arun> people still use ICQ?
[06:07] <cloakable> Yes
[06:07] <me_> ^^ i also have jabber
[06:07] <Linux_Noob> well I have not got an icq but give me yours and I am going to add your number
[06:07] <aaron_> hmm i dont
[06:07] <Ace2016> Linux_Noob: well: Alt+F2 > kdesu kwrite, open /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if this is there
[06:07] <Ace2016> Section "Extensions"
[06:07] <Ace2016>         Option "Composite" "Enable"
[06:07] <Ace2016> EndSection
[06:08] <Linux_Noob> ok lets try this
[06:08] <aaron_> does beryl work woth a ati x1200?
[06:09] <me_> ace2016:  ls: /dev/scd*: No such file or directory
[06:09] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Anyone know how to add Yahoo to your Konqueror search box?
[06:09] <Ace2016> me_: strange, does /media/ show it?
[06:09] <arun> I have four logical drives on my computer. One contains my Windows installation (40 GB, I run a dual boot), one NTFS formatted partition (40 GB), one FAT32 formatted partition (30 GB), and my Kubuntu partition (51 GB)
[06:09] <me_> ace2016: just the empty folder
[06:10] <acemo> in what place does kubuntu installs the php executable?
[06:10] <arun> If I want to remove the NTFS partition and extend my Kubuntu partition to 90GB, how do i do that?
[06:10] <pag> WhtWolfTeraDyne, the same way you add any other search?
[06:10] <arun> acemo: what php executable
[06:10] <Ace2016> acemo: in konqueror type apt:/ search for php and look at the file lyst
[06:10] <acemo> arun: trying to get ktorrents webgui to work and it says this "Php executable isn't in default path, please enter the path manually"
[06:10] <vge> or "which php" in command line
[06:10] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> pag: Ok. Now if I can figure out how to add to it...
[06:11] <Ace2016> oh didn't someone ask about php and ktorrent yesterday?
[06:11] <BluesKaj> llutz:  I never had much luck with avidemux, have you?
[06:11] <llutz> BluesKaj: sure
[06:11] <knowledge25k> i need help whit my error message
[06:11] <pag> WhtWolfTeraDyne, you have a link to that search? (I'm too lazy to google it up)
[06:11] <BluesKaj> avi to dvd/
[06:12] <acemo> Ace2016: wasnt me.. do u perhaps know how he solved it, or does this channel gets logged somewhere? =)
[06:12] <llutz> BluesKaj: converting avi to mpeg2, then giving them to dvdauthor and burn with growisofs
[06:12] <pag> WhtWolfTeraDyne, http://search.yahoo.com/web <- that one?
[06:12] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> yeah. I think so.
[06:12] <knowledge25k> help me whit my tv card
[06:13] <me_> ace2016: so u havent any more ideas to help me?
[06:13] <angasule> hello, is there an alternative KDE package manager? Adept is a bit too buggy for us, and we're giving a linux course in mid-august, synaptic has too many extra deps
[06:13] <BluesKaj> llutz:  interesting , that's sort of like tovid in the cli version
[06:13] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Ah, found something in the docs. http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/konqueror/enhanced-browsing.html
[06:13] <aaron_> anyone get an atheros AT5007EG network card to work wireless yet?
[06:14] <knowledge25k> my tv time won't work
[06:14] <pag> WhtWolfTeraDyne, yup. thats the one. 7th paragraph is what you need
[06:14] <dec_> hello i am trying to add packages using adept and when it opens it tells me i don'
[06:14] <Ace2016> http://ktorrent.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9778&sid=8eea2218edc1f6c3ea05f1904d061602
[06:14] <seth> angasule: kpackage
[06:14] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> thanks pag.
[06:14] <dec_> sorry don't have privileges to add packages
[06:14] <Ace2016> angasule: try synaptic, but its gtk based, but its very good, run it with kdesu synaptic
[06:14] <acemo> Ace2016: thanks
[06:15] <arun> can anyone help with my partitioning questions?
[06:15] <dec_> hello i am trying to add packages using adept and when it opens it tells me i don't have root privileges
[06:15] <pag> dec_, kdesu adept_manager  <- try typing that in run dialog ( alt+f2 )
[06:15] <angasule> Ace2016: I said a *kde* package manager and specifically mentioned why synaptic is *not* an option
[06:15] <angasule> seth: thanks, downloading it now :)
[06:16] <BluesKaj> dec use the password you used to loginto kubuntu
[06:17] <aaron_> anyone get an atheros AT5007EG network card to work wireless yet?
[06:17] <knowledge25k> cccan somebody help me with my tv time
[06:17] <dec_> i just tried it and it works thank you
[06:18] <knowledge25k> my tv time won't work .help me please
[06:18] <seth> knowledge25k, please stop spamming the channel. You have asked 4 times in the last 6 minutes... that's too often
[06:18] <seth> if someone knows, they'll help you
[06:19] <knowledge25k> sorry
[06:19] <Ace2016> me_: no idea, it should show up in /dev/ somewhere as dvd* or  hd* scd* or something like that
[06:21] <aaron_> is it possible to use slingbox with ubuntu?
[06:21] <BluesKaj> knowledge25k:  you really should do some research by yourself ..tvtime works with different graphics cards ..we don't know what your problem is until you tell us what it won't do...not just that it doesn't work'
[06:21] <me_> ace2016: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/13269/
[06:22] <knowledge25k> it won't let me view my chanel
[06:22] <arun> I have four logical drives on my computer. One contains my Windows installation (40 GB, I run a dual boot), one NTFS formatted partition (40 GB), one FAT32 formatted partition (30 GB), and my Kubuntu partition (51 GB). If I want to delete the NTFS partition and extend my existing Kubuntu partition to 90 GB how do I go about it? How risky is it?
[06:23] <BluesKaj> arun: use GParted Live CD ..it works well ..a bit slow but it does the job
[06:24] <BluesKaj> bnearun be prepared to be without your pc for about 3-4 hrs
[06:24] <arun> BluesKaj: why Live CD?
[06:24] <seth> arun, because you can't modify partitions while you're using them ;)
[06:24] <arun> ahh
[06:24] <BluesKaj> kinda hard to partition when yer running on it
[06:24] <vge> arun: pmagic is so magic that it does it if i dont remember it wrong :)
[06:25] <under2x> the kubuntu cd has gparted, no?
[06:25] <arun> will GParted Live CD work well? is it very risky?
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> vge:  last i used PartionMagic. it was a lve cd also..
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> vge:  or it rebooted to dosmode and ran. :)
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> but that was YEARS ago
[06:25] <seth> PMagic can do some operations live if you're using NTFS
[06:25] <BluesKaj> arun: it's the best there is
[06:25] <under2x> arun: its pretty stable these days
[06:25] <seth> but for some, it still reboots to DOS mode
[06:25] <vge> Dr_Willis: ow? ye, i used it years ago also ^
[06:25] <aaron_> i think anytime you mess with partitions its riskey
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> Now a days I use qt/gparted :)
[06:25] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> arun: I like the GParted liveCD. Very useful part of my toolbox.
[06:26] <BluesKaj> seth partiton magic is dangerous and unstable
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> There is athat Systemrescue live cd - that has the parted tools + other cool tools for ya rescue needs.
[06:26] <seth> BluesKaj, no more than any partition editor is eh
[06:26] <arun> aaron_: will the data on my kubuntu partition be deleted? as in, are there chances of that happening? i don't know how ext3 works, because with ntfs, you need to defrag the drive before you partition to make sure the data is safe
[06:27] <BluesKaj> no seth, it's worse
[06:27] <seth> used it and gparted for years, never had any issues with either
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> it really SUCKS when you are resizeing a disk and the power goes out. :)
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> thats teh only time i had issues.
[06:27] <under2x> arun: you don't need to defrag anymore with parted
[06:27] <arun> under2x: alright, thanks
[06:27] <BluesKaj> a lotta ppl are very sorry they ever heard of partition magic, seth , beleive me
[06:28] <seth> ymmv I guess, BluesKaj
[06:28] <BluesKaj> err believe
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> gotta love giving a user that cant understand that C: and D: are 2 parttions on the hard drive.. (vs 2 drives) a  Powerfull tool..  that they just dont understand..
[06:28] <BluesKaj> including me , seth
[06:29] <genii> Dr_Willis: or that hda2 hda3   etc are all the same hd as well :)
[06:29] <arun> is GParted Live CD a GUI?
[06:29] <arun> does it have a gui i mean
[06:29] <jhutchins_lt> arun: Can you not work without a GUI?
[06:29] <Ace2016> isn't it qtparted?
[06:30] <under2x> arun: gparted is on the ubuntu cd
[06:30] <pag> arun, iirc it runs fluxbox ?
[06:30] <arun> cool
[06:30] <vge> jhutchins_lt: muahah, somehow i saw that coming :)
[06:30] <Ace2016> on the kubuntu cd its qtparted
[06:30] <under2x> arun: just make sure you backup any important data, :)
[06:30] <arun> just found the gparted livecd site.. looking at screenshots
[06:30] <arun> under2x: can i just move the data to a partition i'm not planning to touch?
[06:31] <jhutchins_lt> It is nice to at least have a menu instead of having to guess commands.
[06:31] <under2x> arun: backups are serious business http://backups.ytmnd.com/
[06:32] <Ace2016> copy don't move
[06:32] <arun> under2x: if i copy the data to the fat32 partition (that i'm not planning to modify), then it should be safe, right?
[06:33] <under2x> arun: as long as you don't blow away that partition< :)
[06:33] <jhutchins_lt> arun: As long as nothing goes wrong.
[06:33] <arun> under2x: well, i'm not planning to modify it in any way
[06:33] <Ace2016> arun: it will be safe if its on another disk which is unplugged :D
[06:34] <llutz> arun: unplanned things may happen
[06:34] <jhutchins_lt> arun: You are modifying the partition table for that disk.
[06:34] <Ace2016> otherwise if the entire parition table gets messed up its going to be hard to fix
[06:34] <arun> now i'm scared
[06:34] <llutz> you should be :)
[06:34] <jhutchins_lt> arun: Good.  Make backups.
[06:34] <arun> i was planning to get a external hard drive for backups, but it's going to have to wait for a month
[06:34] <under2x> yeah do you have a cd burner?
[06:34] <under2x> burn some cd backups
[06:35] <jhutchins_lt> arun: You don't have to backup software you have sources for, just your own data.
[06:36] <arun> jhutchins_It: i have a lot of data :)
[06:36] <Ace2016> raid1 ftw
[06:36] <llutz> arun: if you don't have a backup, your data isn't important
[06:37] <Ace2016> why would anyone keep data if its not important, just delete it
[06:37] <llutz> that's a modern miracle
[06:38] <vge> i tought everyone had cron jobs to delete unused files after 2 days?
[06:38] <cloakable> Heh
[06:38] <Ace2016> its all about running out of space and getting a bigger drive, no one ever thinks about just deleting junk
[06:38] <arun> yeah, i know.. i should back up. i used to have cds of backups lying all over the place, back when i had a 40gb hard drive. i recently got a new computer a few months ago, so i moved all my data to this hard drive. been planning to get an external drive to store stuff i dont use on a daily basis and to back up important stuff, but it will have to wait for another month. i guess i'll repartition then.
[06:39] <arun> thanks for the help, people. i'll give gparted a shot, and try not to hose anything
[06:39] <genii> Ace2016: There are some ppl today that collect and store all their old data no matter how useless like how some others are obsessive collectors of things like string or rubber bands.
[06:39] <jhutchins_lt> arun: Seriously, not a bad idea to burn stuff to CD or DVD.
[06:39] <jhutchins_lt> arun: I'd make a DVD burner higher priority than that external drive.
[06:40] <arun> i have a dvd burner already
[06:40] <llutz> jhutchins_lt: ^^ only if you're sure about the quality of media/burner/burn which is in most cases poor
[06:40] <arun> but i figure if i'm going to get an external drive anyway, why burn on dvd and then copy to the external drive again?
[06:41] <Ace2016> i have a collection of anime, all 220 episodes of naruto :D thats important
[06:41] <Daisuke_Ido> "most"?  some peer-reviewed research on that please?
[06:41] <Daisuke_Ido> even mid-grade media will last a long time if properly stored
[06:41] <jhutchins_lt> llutz: It's possible for something to go wrong with any medium, but DVD is at least a passive medium - unlikely to have a total failure.
[06:41] <arun> Ace2016: I have all the episodes of He-Man and the Masters of the Universe :)
[06:42] <Daisuke_Ido> arun: you're proud of that? :)
[06:42] <jhutchins_lt> llutz: You can be fairly certain that if a DVD is good immediately after it's burned it will still be good for several years.
[06:42] <arun> yup, i love heman
[06:42] <Daisuke_Ido> i can't say anything, full saved by the bell collection -_-
[06:42] <arun> i used to watch it religiously on tv when i was a kid
[06:42] <Daisuke_Ido> and transformers (original series, thankyouverymuch)
[06:42] <llutz> Daisuke_Ido: german magazine "c't" makes continous test about burner/media-combinations and the results are awfull. if you see people going to a shop, buying the cheapest media they can get and have those tests in mind, you won#t trust their data
[06:43] <Ace2016> arun: how many episodes s that?
[06:43] <arun> 23 GB worth
[06:43] <jhutchins_lt> arun: So 5 - 10 DVD's.
[06:44] <arun> haha yeah
[06:44] <arun> It's 130 episodes + extras
[06:44] <Daisuke_Ido> llutz: that's not peer-reviewed, it's likely paid for by the distributors of high dollar media - the simple fact is that there aren't THAT many media manufacturers, and besides, i don't need to trust THEIR data, i need to trust MY data.
[06:44] <Ace2016> oh mine are only 16GB all the anime is about 40GB
[06:45] <BluesKaj> cartoons ....geez
[06:45] <Daisuke_Ido> i know i've never lost data from a successful burn, going back to 2000
[06:46] <Ace2016> cartoons are great
[06:46] <arun> according to wikipedia, generally, cds and dvds are reliable for only upto two years
[06:46] <Daisuke_Ido> now, i DO see what you're saying.  there's extra-cheap media that's prone to peeling, and that's a problem :)
[06:46] <Daisuke_Ido> arun: according to wikipedia, living people are dead.
[06:46] <arun> haha
[06:46] <jhutchins_lt> I have seen burners that routinely made CD's that couldn't be read by other drives, but you can test that, if you know it's happening you know to replace the burner.
[06:47] <BluesKaj> hmmm, interesting ...I have cds burned in 1998 that are still sounding fine
[06:47] <jhutchins_lt> BluesKaj: Yeah, if they're good, they're good, usually for a long time.
[06:47] <BluesKaj> and they've been in my car in the heat and cold
[06:48] <Silent_G> hello, which is the microphone? /dev/dsp or /dev/audio? cause Amsn told me to choose from those 2
[06:48] <Silent_G> :S
[06:48] <jhutchins_lt> BluesKaj: There is a limit to their theoretical stability, but you aren't necessarily going to see that.
[06:48] <jhutchins_lt> BluesKaj: That said, I'd make copies of anything approaching 10 years old.
[06:48] <Daisuke_Ido> Silent_G: try em both :D
[06:48] <MarcC> how do I mount a samba share?
[06:48] <Silent_G> i made Audo: /dev/dsp and Microphone: /dev/dsp
[06:49] <Silent_G> is it still good like that?
[06:49] <BluesKaj> yeah , I have "house" copies of my fav stuff , for sure :)
[06:49] <Silent_G> or audio and microphone must have a different device?
[06:49] <Silent_G> O_o
[06:50] <pag> Silent_G, why? they're connected to same device (sound card)
[06:50] <Daisuke_Ido> Silent_G: experiment :)
[06:50] <Silent_G> oh ok i understan
[06:50] <jhutchins_lt> MarcC: sudo mount -t smbfs //server/share /mount/point -o username=<user>,password=<password>,fmask=777,dmask=777
[06:50] <Silent_G> both /dev/dsp and /dev/audio worked good so i chose /dev/dsp
[06:50] <Silent_G> :S
[06:51] <jhutchins_lt> Silent_G: Yeah, try one, if it doesn't work, try the other.
[06:51] <MarcC> thanks jhutchins_lt - is that permanent, or do I need to make an fstab entry?
[06:51] <Silent_G> aight
[06:51] <Silent_G> :p
[06:51] <aaron_> anyone get an atheros AT5007EG network card to work wireless yet?
[06:51] <jhutchins_lt> MarcC: That's temporary, you can create an fstab entry.
[06:51] <MarcC> thanks jhutchins_lt
[06:52] <jhutchins_lt> !samba | MarcC
[06:52] <ubotu> MarcC: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:52] <angasule> !aptitude
[06:52] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[06:53] <genii> bah, work. AFK
[06:58] <fyrmedic> How do I get apt-get to stop holding back packages?
[06:58] <pag> fyrmedic, be more specific
[06:59] <pag> fyrmedic, my guess at that point would be: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:59] <antennae> frymedic: apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:59] <fyrmedic> pag; when I try and do an upgrade it says that 2 packages are upgradeable but then holds them back when I try to do the upgrade on them
[07:00] <pag> fyrmedic, yup. dist-upgrade is teh solution
[07:00] <fyrmedic> pag; I have tried doing -f install, and clean, and autoclean
[07:00] <ShackJac1> Kind of a longshot question (not_kubuntu specific)... Any KXMAME (sdl) users know how to get the games playing full screen that actually stretches to the width/height of the screen? I can go full screen but games don't take advantage of the space?
[07:02] <BluesKaj> ShackJac1: buy a gamebox of some sort ...but i'm just old and grumpy and think pc's aren't meantfor games
[07:03] <Daisuke_Ido> BluesKaj: that works well for most things, but not mame
[07:04] <arun> i just pressed ctrl + alt + f1 and got the shock of my life
[07:04] <ShackJac1> BluesKaj: Silly person - those gamebox don't play the *good* games - like Pacman, Robotron and Timepilot, just to name a few...
[07:04] <Daisuke_Ido> mame = multi arcade machine emulator :)
[07:04] <ShackJac1> arun: It's called the command line ;)
[07:04] <sudeep> how can i get xmms --
[07:04] <arun> ShackJac1: how does one get out of that? i had to sudo reboot to restart
[07:04] <Daisuke_Ido> sudeep: avoid xmms like the plague
[07:04] <pag> !info xmms | sudeep
[07:04] <ubotu> sudeep: xmms: Versatile X audio player. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.2.10+20061201-1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 794 kB, installed size 6304 kB
[07:05] <Daisuke_Ido> and why would you want it when there's amarok, and barring that, audacious?
[07:05] <ShackJac1> arun: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart  (though I think there's a keyboard shortcut?)
[07:05] <pag> sudeep, and eah - avoid it :)
[07:05] <jhutchins_lt> ShackJac1: You're thinking of Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[07:05] <Daisuke_Ido> just because it's the linux media player most people have heard of doesn't mean it's good :)
[07:05] <arun> ShackJac1: is there a way to revert back to X? just like i went to the command like via a keyboard shortcut
[07:05] <pag> arun, ctrl+alt+f7 maybe? :)
[07:06] <arun> pag: i'm not going to try that in a hurry
[07:06] <jhutchins_lt> alt-F7
[07:06] <ShackJac1> So I take it no kxmame users then?  No matter what I tweak under Display or Rendering, nothing changes (except I can get it to go "full screen" to a windowed version)...
[07:06] <BluesKaj> ShackJac1: Daisuke_Ido ... I luv to tease gamerz...it's just "my thing"
[07:06] <jhutchins_lt> arun: alt-f7
[07:06] <ShackJac1> arun: Do not fear the command line. The command line is your friend ;)
[07:06] <Nahi> hello, i have a problem with my laptop battery monitor can someone help me out ?? it keeps saying its 100% and charging even when i unplug it
[07:07] <ShackJac1> BluesKaj: Actually I wouldn't call myself much or a gamer. That's why I still like these one's. You can pop in for a few minutes and play without making a "lifestyle choice" :)
[07:07] <Daisuke_Ido> BluesKaj: if he's looking to play the true classics (pac man, frogger, etc), he's not a gamer, he's a devotee :D
[07:07] <arun> ShackJac1: i don't fear it.. i like doing things using the command line. just that i don't know too much, so i wouldn't know my way around
[07:07] <BluesKaj> ShackJac1: Daisuke_Ido   :>)
[07:07] <ShackJac1> Daisuke_Ido: I love the "shoot 'em ups" too... "shmups" - just awesome...
[07:08] <Daisuke_Ido> mmm
[07:08] <Daisuke_Ido> touhou...
[07:08] <Ace2016> ut2004 is great but for some reason i can't get it to work :(
[07:08] <Daisuke_Ido> are we talking gradius shmups or the insane omg-there's-bullets-everywhere shmups? (aka curtain shooters)
[07:09] <Daisuke_Ido> Ace2016: what kind of error?
[07:09] <ShackJac1> jhutchins: Ctrl+Alt_F7 - I'll remember that - I always restart kdm/gdm ;)
[07:09] <jhutchins_lt> ShackJac1: It's just Alt-F7 if you're in console.
[07:09] <jhutchins_lt> ShackJac1: If you're in X, you net Ctrl-Alt, but in console it's just alt.
[07:09] <ShackJac1> Daisuke_Ido: A little of both Gradius, R-Type, Raiden - then DoDonPachi, 1941/2/3 etc...
[07:10] <ShackJac1> jhutchins_lt: Ah O.K.  I think either works in console, though...
[07:10] <Ace2016> Daisuke_Ido: no error, to make sure its not an app or anything i logout shutdown the xserver and run X & DISPLAY=:0 ut2004 and x starts and the startup screen of ut2004 screen is shown and then the screen goes into power save mode and the keyboard stops working
[07:10] <jhutchins_lt> ShackJac1: Correct.
[07:11] <Ace2016> all completely dead, ctrl+alt+f1 does not work and neither does ctrl+alt+backspace or ctrl+alt+delete
[07:11] <Ace2016> i have to hard restart it by pressing the buttom on the case
[07:11] <Daisuke_Ido> that's...  not good
[07:11] <Ace2016> button*
[07:11] <Ace2016> yea tell me about it
[07:11] <Daisuke_Ido> have ou tried running it while x is already running?
[07:12] <BluesKaj> well time to take wifey to the malls ...later gents :)
[07:12] <fiyawerx> !nvidia
[07:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:13] <Ace2016> omg
[07:13] <Ace2016> for some strange and yet unknown reason i can play ut2004 in xgl!!!
[07:14] <Ace2016> what on earth is going on!!!
[07:14] <Ace2016> direct rendering: No
[07:14] <Ace2016> server glx vendor string: SGI
[07:14] <Ace2016> server glx version string: 1.2
[07:14] <ShackJac1> Ace2016: Don't question a miracle - just accept it ;)
[07:15] <brad> so I think I messed up my ndiswrapper file
[07:15] <Ace2016> the settings were set to open gl rendering, and 800x600 as the video mode
[07:15] <Ace2016> i think its the video mode thats messing things up, i'll bump it up to 1024x768 and see what happens
[07:15] <brad> I installed 1.47, then trying to install my wireless driver it said I needed 1.9, so I went to adept and got the service pack
[07:15] <Ace2016> oh wait
[07:15] <brad> and now ndiswrapper -v says no such device (before it said not a new enough version when I had JUST got it)
[07:15] <fiyawerx> does anyone know where System  Administration  Restricted Devices Manager is in Kubuntu?
[07:15] <Ace2016> how do i asign a specific refresh rate to every screen resolution in xorg.conf?
[07:16] <fiyawerx> or which driver i use for nvidia 6600gt
[07:16] <brad> I dont think there is a restricted driver manager, but I have a similar videocard and it was actually pretty easy I'm just trying to remember what I did
[07:16] <Ace2016> nvidia driver for nvidia card, no brainer
[07:16] <fiyawerx> not sure if its nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new
[07:16] <fiyawerx> well which driver do you use? there's several
[07:16] <brad> I think nvidia glx new
[07:16] <fiyawerx> thanks
[07:17] <lontra> fiyawerx: there should be a restricted devices manager in gutsy but not in feisty in kubuntu
[07:17] <fiyawerx> yeah I'm using feisty
[07:17] <lontra> fiyawerx: it wouldn't matter ... it's not implemented in gutsy yet
[07:17] <fiyawerx> ok
[07:17] <fiyawerx> will try the nvidia-glx-new
[07:18] <brad> so can anyone help me with this ndiswrapper problem?
[07:18] <Ace2016> ok i set the resolution to 1024x768 for ut2004 in xgl and it crashed, now i think the normal x should start working, yay!
[07:18] <lontra> brad: what's your problem?  i've had good luck with ndiswrapper
[07:19] <brad> well I was trying to set up my wireless connection and everything was going swimmingly (with 1.47)
[07:19] <brad> and then it said I needed 1.9
[07:19] <nicolai_> fiyawerx: I have a GeForce 6600 and run it with nvidia-glx
[07:19] <brad> so I downloaded the 1.9 service pack or whatever
[07:19] <brad> and now ndiswrapper -v says it is not found
[07:19] <brad> but with 1.47 it said it wasnt new enough
[07:19] <Daisuke_Ido> unless you have an nvidia 8xxx card, you don't need -new
[07:20] <brad> so I Added all the ndiswrapper stuff I could from adept (gradually)
[07:20] <brad> but nothing
[07:22] <Ace2016> what is ndiswrapper
[07:22] <Ace2016> ?
[07:22] <brad> ok, so I got back to NDISwrapper saying "Version to Old, 1.9 needed"
[07:22] <llutz> ndiswrapper: nichts passendes.
[07:22] <RurouniJones> Anyone know what could be filling 86% of /tmp when there are only a few lock files in it (according to ls -la)
[07:22] <nicolai_> Ace2016:it is a way to use wireless drivers made for windows
[07:23] <Ace2016> oh thats cool
[07:23] <lontra> brad: you need to install the driver for your card with ndiswrapper via sudo ndiswrapper -i foo.inf
[07:23] <runlevelten> Refactor, runlevelten, refactor like the wind!
[07:23] <nicolai_> RurouniJones: Kaffeine running a large movie?
[07:23] <Ace2016> http://www.ubuntuvideo.com/ut2004_on_ubuntu_7_04_with_wiimote_control
[07:24] <Daisuke_Ido> because a lot of companies refuse to release linux drivers, or specs so others could make linux drivers
[07:24] <Ace2016> anyone know what mod that is??
[07:24] <lontra> brad: do you have the .EXE for your wireless card?
[07:24] <RurouniJones> nicolai - Nope, no GUI running on this particular machine
[07:24] <RurouniJones> but apparently 400 oddmb is being used in /tmp
[07:25] <brad> yes I do, I got it off of the website
[07:25] <llutz> RurouniJones: umount it, run fschk
[07:25] <brad> and when I tried to do that it said that the version wasnt new enoughh, I need the 1.9 utilities to work
[07:25] <aaron_> anyone get an atheros AT5007EG network card to work wireless yet?
[07:25] <knowledge25k> i need help my beryl won't work
[07:25] <lontra> brad: yeah ... sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> !beryl
[07:26] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:26] <lontra> brad: then unzip foo.EXE, then sudo ndiswrapper -i foo.inf, and so on
[07:26] <frojnd> hello
[07:26] <lontra> hi frojnd
[07:26] <RurouniJones> Righto llutz.
[07:26] <frojnd> can someone tell me how to set as first shown page in konqueror TREE LOOK ? so when I click on konqueror I can see home folder in tree view ?
[07:26] <brad> I did that before from adept and it didnt work but will try from command line
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> frojnd:  set it up how ya like. and save the default view to be that view.
[07:27] <brad> I didnt get ndiswrapper through apt-install I downloaded it manually (if it makes a difference that it is in /home/brad/ndiswrapper
[07:27] <knowledge25k> what is that mean for me
[07:27] <lontra> !info ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[07:27] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-utils-1.9: Userspace utilities for the ndiswrapper linux kernel module. In component main, is optional. Version 1.38-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 31 kB, installed size 120 kB
[07:27] <lontra> brad: it's there
[07:27] <ubuntu_> alguien sabe como se instala ubuntu desde el cd live?
[07:28] <lontra> !es
[07:28] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> frojnd: settings ---> save viewprofile 'whatever its called.'
[07:28] <koyote> man. I need a feed for angband 3.0.8 and emacs 22
[07:28] <koyote> I wonder if I should try grunty.
[07:28] <brad> ok so I did what you just said
[07:28] <brad> and now ndiswrapper -v says "No version specified"
[07:29] <brad> utils error, no version specified
[07:29] <brad> which is exactly what it did before
[07:29] <lontra> brad: did you install your driver first ... sudo ndiswrapper -i foo.inf
[07:29] <brad> thats what I was trying to explain, the problem is that that is what it does
[07:29] <brad> no when I tried to install the driver there was a problem because the utilties arent new enough
[07:29] <brad> I did try manually uninstalling and reinstalling, but it needs the 1.9 utilities which WONT work
[07:30] <lontra> brad: pastebin your error
[07:30] <lontra> !paste
[07:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:30] <brad> k going to paste bin
[07:31] <brad> but it isnt a long error
[07:31] <brad> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31931/
[07:31] <Silent_G> how can i make my windows partition Writable ?
[07:31] <fiyawerx> !svideo
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about svideo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:32] <fiyawerx> Ok, nvidia-glx-new worked for my regular widescreen monitor, but now i have to figure out how to enable svideo
[07:32] <keyes_> Hi, is there any Kubuntu dev channel ?
[07:32] <pag> keyes_, #kubuntu-devel
[07:32] <brad> I feel like this is caused by my downloaded and manually installing ndiswrapper instead of using adept, but using adept for the tools?
[07:32] <keyes_> thanks :)
[07:32] <lontra> brad: have you tried to install it from a tarball as well?
[07:32] <lontra> brad: :)
[07:33] <brad> I DID install from a tarball
[07:33] <lontra> brad: go into the ndiswrapper directory where you installed it and run sudo make uninstall and then try to install it via adept
[07:33] <llutz> !ntfs-3g|  Silent_G
[07:33] <brad> I realize the utils are there
[07:33] <ubotu> Silent_G: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[07:33] <brad> kk
[07:33] <Silent_G> thankz
[07:34] <brad> becauseI had great instructions on the forums but it stalled when ndiswrapper -v showed an error
[07:34] <lontra> brad: there's lot of great how-tos ... in general i've found the one in adept works fine
[07:36] <brad> (I was just trying to follow the instructions I was given, I Dont know why I wasnt told to just use adept)
[07:36] <kosch> informix: -> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering
[07:36] <Silent_G> Applications  System Tools  NTFS Configuration Tool
[07:36] <Silent_G> how do i go to Applications?
[07:36] <Silent_G> where is it
[07:36] <Silent_G> ?
[07:36] <Silent_G> :s
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> in the KDE menu perhaps?
[07:36] <brad> it still says no file found when i do ndiswrapper -v
[07:36] <Silent_G> does it refere to the K menu
[07:36] <Silent_G> ah ok
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> where else could you even Look? :)
[07:37] <brad> could not open a different file
[07:37] <lontra> brad: sudo dpkg -s ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[07:37] <Silent_G> into another dimension?
[07:37] <Silent_G> :p
[07:38] <lontra> brad: you just need to have ndiswrapper-common and ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 to use ndiswrapper
[07:38] <brad> I got both of them
[07:38] <brad> thats the thing, is I can get to where it tries to run, and it says I dont have a new enough version and need 1.9
[07:38] <brad> and I install 1.9, and then it says the utilities version isnt found
[07:39] <Nahi> hello, i have a problem with my laptop battery monitor can someone help me out ?? it keeps saying its 100% and charging even when i unplug it
[07:39] <lontra> brad: ok then you should have everything you need.  so what happens when you unzip your .EXE and try to install it running sudo ndiswrapper -i foo.inf?
[07:39] <lontra> brad: btw ... what's your wireless card?
[07:39] <brad> well before there was an error, I was told not to proceed until ndiswrapper -v came back with out an error
[07:39] <brad> its a Marvell Yukon
[07:39] <brad> you can get the 64 bit driver from the asus website
[07:40] <frojnd> Dr_Willis: I make tree in my new profile and save it. I also save my new profile. I close konqueror. I open it and there is still conquer your desktop instead my home folder under tree view :S
[07:41] <lontra> brad: well i would just try to procced with ndiswrapper -i, ndiswrapper -l, ndiswrapper -m, and so on ... i've never used the ndiswrapper -v command before so i can't say if your error is benign or important
[07:41] <brad> well, before when I tried to proceed it said it couldnt do it though it did most there was some error, I am proceeding though
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> You save it as the name of tha tdefault one,, you dont make a new one..
[07:42] <llutz> frojnd: kubuntu comes with a castrated (they call it simplified) konqueror, you'll need to recover the original profiles. use google for a howto
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> or ya some how set that one ya saved as the 'default'
[07:42] <lontra> llutz: yeah they cripple konqueror imo
[07:43] <brad> it says the driver is already installed (because I've tried this before)
[07:43] <brad> wow, crazily enough it IS working after a reset
[07:43] <lontra> http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror  <-- to get konqueror to it's default and happy state
[07:43] <lontra> brad: cool
[07:43] <brad> and I didnt realize it because I'm so convinced there is something wrong with ndiswrapper
[07:44] <brad> thanks soooooooo much
[07:44] <lontra> brb
[07:44] <brad> it's really hard to get good help, I am getting to actually understand linux and as such be less of a newb
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> There is a faq/guide on getting back all the other profiles.
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> on the Kubuntu faq
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. that faq/change for the profiles dident work for me. Saw no change
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> or do ya got to restart kde?
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> lets try..
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. diddent change my profiles at all.
[07:48] <fiyawerx> !tv-out
[07:48] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[07:48] <Nahi> anyone has an idea about battery on laptops ?
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> what about them?
[07:48] <jhutchins> Well, mine just quit, that's twice without the power daemon detecting it.
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> Nahi: Yes, laptops have batteries ;)
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. odd. not seen that with my laptop yet.
[07:49] <Nahi> Dr_Willis; duh!
[07:49] <Nahi> ;p
[07:49] <Nahi> ConstyXIV; yes i unplug the ac from my laptop and it keeps showing charging and 100%
[07:49] <Lynoure> Nahi: if you don't use them, keep then charged and cold. :)
[07:49] <Nahi> Dr_Willis; ; yes i unplug the ac from my laptop and it keeps showing charging and 100%
[07:49] <Nahi> god enough with the sarcasm
[07:49] <Lynoure> Nahi: it was not...
[07:49] <pawel> elo
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> sounds like some apci issues with your specific laptop make/model.  - check the ubuntu/kubuntu laptop forums perhaps.
[07:50] <Nahi> i went over the forum
[07:50] <Nahi> couldn't find nothing
[07:50] <Nahi> i run kubuntu
[07:50] <Nahi> and my laptop is HP compaq nx 9000
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> It pays to be very clear and concise on IRC.
[07:50] <Lynoure> Nahi: most people seem all unaware of the fact that keeping the battery in an ac connected lappy is very bad for the battery
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> Lynoure:  whats sad. is that it shouldent be a problem. But i do the same thing. :)
[07:50] <Nahi> Lynoure; well my laptop is on 24/7
[07:51] <miles> miles says hi
[07:51] <Lynoure> Nahi: It's not likely to overcharge or explode, probably your lappy just shows the maintenance charging as real charging for some reason
[07:52] <Nahi> well the only way to fix it is to reboot
[07:52] <Nahi> which im not gunna do right now ;p
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> yea. i  guess its a very good idea if you are on AC power most of the time - to just remove the battery.
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> but i havent done that for the last year+ so.. i bet the damage is done.
[07:52] <llutz> Lynoure: his battery is down to 50% of capacity (according to a former paste), so no worries anymore
[07:52] <Lynoure> Dr_Willis: unless you have people toppling over the wire or blackouts...
[07:53] <Nahi> THATS done
[07:53] <Nahi> now its showing 96%
[07:53] <Nahi> and going down
[07:53] <Nahi> ;p
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> having a battery in the laptop has saved me a few times when the power went out.
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> everyone else lost work.. i kept going.
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:53] <Nahi> no power outage around here
[07:53] <Nahi> ;p
[07:53] <Nahi> well brb
[07:53] <hero> is it possible to block flash advertisements in konqueror?
[07:54] <Nahi> leme try sth
[07:54] <cloakable> hero: it's possible to block advertisements straight.
[07:54] <lontra> brad: any luck?
[07:55] <hero> cloakable: well it's easy with images because you can right click and click 'block image' but not with flash ads. instead you get the flash menu instead.
[07:55] <cloakable> hero: Use filterset.g with the adblock stuff built into konqueror
[07:56] <hero> cloakable: i am.
[07:56] <hero> oh
[07:56] <hero> you mean a ruleset?
[07:56] <jhutchins> cloakable: How would you tell from the HTML what was an add and what was content in flash?
[07:58] <cloakable> jhutchins: Most ads are sourced not on the server you visit, but certain servers. doubleclick would be a good example.
[07:58] <cloakable> hero: Yeah
[07:58] <hero> can you just delete your entire ruleset and run filterset,g and be ok?
[07:58] <cloakable> AdBlock blocks those urls
[07:58] <cloakable> hero: I use the filterset.g rulset solely.
[07:59] <hero> sweet
[07:59] <jhutchins>   I run my own DNS that I've manually blocked a lot of ad servers with.
[08:00] <jhutchins> flash is the new <BLINK> tag.
[08:00] <shiv_j> I have a bunch of files with say xyz in there name. I want to move them to a certain folder which contain this name. How do I do it using krename or any ther program. Plz advise. I have been struggling for quite some time now
[08:00] <jhutchins> shiv_j: Use find.
[08:00] <shiv_j> I did that
[08:00] <shiv_j> but it wont move
[08:01] <llutz> shiv_j: find /dir -name *xyz* -exec mv {} /newdir \;
[08:01] <shiv_j> llutz: thanks let me try
[08:02] <llutz> shiv_j: in bash you may need to escape: find /dir -name \*xyz\* -exec mv {} /newdir \;
[08:03] <jhutchins> llutz: I usually quote strings like that.
[08:03] <llutz> jhutchins: better to be on the safe side
[08:03] <Assid> heya
[08:03] <Nahi> okay
[08:03] <Nahi> fixed ;p
[08:03] <Nahi> had to rebooot and lost my uptime :(
[08:04] <zimmo> hei
[08:04] <zimmo> i cannot get the mesa's files by the apt-get
[08:04] <zimmo> is there any other way to get it?
[08:04] <Assid> anyone here tried utorrent with wine?
[08:04] <llutz> Nahi: 1337-disaster
[08:04] <shiv_j> llutz: can u see this
[08:04] <shiv_j> [shiv@localhost Desktop] $ /Bracco *dti* -exec mv {} /BraccoDTI \;
[08:04] <shiv_j> bash: /Bracco: No such file or directory
[08:05] <Nahi> lol
[08:05] <Nahi> what ?
[08:05] <llutz> shiv_j: missing find
[08:05] <llutz> Nahi: low uptime = disaster for real nerds
[08:05] <Nahi> naaah
[08:05] <Nahi> its cause of a game
[08:05] <Nahi> thats why
[08:05] <Nahi> ;p
[08:05] <shiv_j> ?pastebin
[08:05] <Nahi> idlerpg
[08:06] <shiv_j> ? astebin
[08:06] <jhutchins> !paste
[08:06] <zimmo> is it common the OpenGL installiation via apt-get do not work?
[08:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:06] <llutz> shiv_j: find /Bracco -name \*dti\* -exec mv {} /BraccoDTI \;
[08:06] <jhutchins> zimmo: We can't tell you much about something that's not happening.  Tell us what _is_ happening.
[08:07] <shiv_j> llutz: let me try
[08:07] <zimmo> Paket libgl1-mesa-glx soll entfernt werden.
[08:07] <zimmo>   Paket libgl1 ist nicht installiert.
[08:07] <zimmo>   Paket libgl1-mesa-glide3, das libgl1 bereitstellt, ist nicht installiert.
[08:07] <zimmo>   Paket libgl1-mesa-glx, das libgl1 bereitstellt, soll entfernt werden.
[08:07] <zimmo>   Paket libgl1-mesa-swx11, das libgl1 bereitstellt, ist nicht installiert.
[08:07] <zimmo> they tell me the packages are not still installed to install the new ones
[08:07] <shiv_j> llutz: the dir Bracco is on desktop so I did this
[08:07] <shiv_j> [shiv@localhost Desktop] $ find /Bracco -name \*dti\* -exec mv {} /BraccoDTI \;
[08:07] <shiv_j> find: /Bracco: No such file or directory
[08:07] <shiv_j> [shiv@localhost Desktop] $
[08:08] <llutz> shiv_j: learn how use use pathes ;)
[08:08] <zimmo> and when I try to install libgl1-mesa-glide3, libgl1-mesa-glx and libgl1-mesa-swx11, they do not install anyway
[08:08] <llutz> shiv_j: find ~/Desktop/Bracco -name \*dti\* -exec mv {} ~/Desktop/BraccoDTI \;
[08:08] <jhutchins> I'm guessing that it should be either . or Braco/
[08:09] <shiv_j> llutz: I think thats working
[08:09] <shiv_j> let me see
[08:10] <zimmo> ?
[08:11] <zimmo> does anybody know what should I do?
[08:11] <_Shade_> hi
[08:11] <zimmo> or explain me...
[08:12] <_Shade_> i broke my update during apt-get update and now i am unable to do it again. What should i do?
[08:16] <jhutchins> _Shade_: We can't help unless you tell us what is happening.
[08:17] <_Shade_> jhutchins: i got the "resource is temporarily unavailable" message
[08:20] <_Shade_> jhutchins: the point is i haven't ran anything else that uses dpkg stuff
[08:20] <_Shade_> rysiek|pl: hi again
[08:21] <nicolai_> _Shade_: Try this: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+question/5409
[08:22] <rysiek|pl> _Shade_: yello
[08:22] <cabroni> which Qt version is embed in KDE?
[08:22] <rysiek|pl> cabroni: depends on KDE
[08:22] <rysiek|pl> cabroni: gimme a sec, I'll give ya a way to check that
[08:22] <knowledge25k> hello
[08:23] <knowledge25k> hi
[08:23] <fdoving> cabroni: you can check that with 'kde-config -v' from the commandline.
[08:23] <rysiek|pl> cabroni: fdoving was first ;)
[08:25] <_Shade_> nicolai_: thanks... just removing the lock file was enough for me
[08:26] <cabroni> it not showme about version, but i use kubuntu 7.05 dvd
[08:26] <vzduch> 7.05?  when did that come out? o0
[08:27] <nicolai_> _Shade_: No problem. It's a common problem, so I figured I could just reuse an older answer. :)
[08:27] <cabroni> .. 7.04 ;
[08:33] <sparr> kopete has recently started opening http://foo.bar in the file handler for *.bar (gimp for *.png, kate for *.php, etc), instead of in the handler for http://* (konqueror or mozilla).  help?
[08:39] <knowledge25k> *
[08:39] <knowledge25k> where can i find 3 d game
[08:40] <_4str1> knowledge25k: in adept :p
[08:40] <_4str1> knowledge25k: try openarena
[08:40] <nicolai_> knowledge25k: Try Nexuiz and Neverball
[08:41] <omega_> how can i install mirc for kubuntu
[08:41] <_4str1> cube2
[08:41] <_4str1> omega_: you should not
[08:41] <Lynoure> omega_: Why do you want to?
[08:41] <omega_> aaaa
[08:41] <_4str1> omega_: there are several other irc client
[08:41] <Lynoure> omega_: There are nice graphical irc client for linux, natively
[08:41] <omega_> how can i talk to a channel from romania
[08:42] <Lynoure> omega_: but if you need it for testing something, try with wine
[08:42] <omega_> like timisoara
[08:42] <ruzzz> hello russian :0
[08:42] <_4str1> omega_: ??? you have to know the server information and the channel
[08:42] <_4str1> that's it
[08:43] <omega_> thanks
[08:44] <_4str1> omega_: with those information you can connect the network with irc client
[08:44] <omega_> and if the server is undernet
[08:44] <omega_> and the channel is timisoara
[08:44] <_4str1> omega_: wich client are you using atm ?
[08:44] <omega_> how can i talk in that channel
[08:44] <_4str1> omega_: wich client are you using atm ?
[08:45] <omega_> aaaaa
[08:45] <vzduch> 'aaaaa' is not the name of a client ;)
[08:45] <omega_> i know
[08:45] <vzduch> ruzzz: NEVER, I repeat, NEVER go into IRC as root!
[08:46] <omega_> ok
[08:46] <_4str1> omega_: open konversation and add your sever in the list and the channel ...
 sanx
[08:47] <_4str1> the server adress will be : irc.undernet.org:6667 or something like this (look on google)
[08:50] <arun> can any of you see this: http://10.74.0.108:8001/
[08:50] <_Shade_> i'm just downloading the updated packages using adept_updater. Can i use sudo apt-get install automatically when it ends?
[08:51] <vzduch> arun: that's in your private network
[08:51] <cloakable> arun: timeout
[08:51] <arun> vzduch: how do i enable it for people outside my network
[08:51] <genii> arun: as vzduch said, that range of numbers is a private range like 192.168.X.X   or so
[08:51] <vzduch> arun: try the outside IP of your router
[08:52] <_4str1> _Shade_: i think it will ask you to install them when downmoad finish
[08:52] <arun> vzduch: how do i find that
[08:52] <arun> can you see this: http://172.16.4.1:8001/
[08:52] <vzduch> arun: lol
[08:52] <vzduch> that's also a private network IP
[08:53] <arun> ha so how do i find the public IP
[08:53] <_Shade_> _4str sure but i'd like to put it in my console, so that the apt-get start downloading when dpkg will be unused
[08:53] <arun> vzduch: if i go to whatismyip.com i get an ip address, but if i add :8001 to that, it doesn't work either
[08:53] <genii> arun:  you've covered 2 of the 3 ranges now put aside for private ranges LOL
[08:54] <vzduch> arun: the port doesn't matter
[08:54] <vzduch> for finding out the IP, that is
[08:54] <vzduch> arun: what does whatsmyip.com tell you what your IP is?
[08:54] <arun> 202.134.160.15
[08:54] <_Shade_> is there any way to do so?
[08:55] <vzduch> arun: then use that
[08:55] <arun> vzduch: doesnt work
[08:55] <arun> try it
[08:56] <_4str1> arun: Only IE5.0 and above supported. :p
[08:56] <_4str1> arun: http://202.134.160.15/invalidbrowser.html
[08:56] <vzduch> _4str1: indeed
[08:56] <_Shade_> _4str any further ideas?
[08:56] <_4str1> _Shade_: i think i dont understand what you wanna do ...
[08:57] <arun> _4str1: what can i do about that? my isp has set that
[08:57] <_4str1> arun: if you have a router you have to setup it
[08:57] <genii> arun: Look into some service like DynDND and the package ez-ipupdate
[08:57] <genii> DynDNS rather
[08:58] <vzduch> it's supposed to land on http://202.134.160.15/24online/webpages/login.jsp, but that page redirects to the one mentioned above.. the error msg is obvious
[08:58] <arun> _4str1: i tried it using IE6 and it gives me an invalid page error
[08:59] <arun> how do i share my files with others using kpf?
[08:59] <arun> i've added a server
[08:59] <_4str1> arun: that is not a ubuntu problem ....
[08:59] <tao4mike> anyone know a good program for processing email, for instance removing text that is similar in multiple emails?  thanks
[09:02] <_4str1> arun: look in the faq of your isp
[09:05] <_Shade_> _4str1: i'm just doing update. When it is in progress i can't install another packages because the dpkg is busy. Is there any command that will download the packages when the dpkg will be unused?
[09:06] <sonhadorpr> I need help, with programs not opening in Kubuntu
[09:06] <SonhadorPR> is intelikey around?
[09:06] <Lynoure> SonhadorPR: no programs open, or some do not (which ones)?
[09:07] <_4str1> _Shade_: it's not a good idea to install tjings when you 're updating your system ...
[09:07] <_Shade_> SonhadorPR: which one doesn't work?
[09:07] <SonhadorPR> well....is kinda wierd.... they open just once, and if I close them and try to open them up again..they wont open
[09:07] <_4str1> _Shade_: that's very crazy !
[09:08] <SonhadorPR> Im having problems with the Exaile music player, and the Mozilla FireFox
[09:08] <_4str1> looks like : how can i drive my car while i'm in the train ....
[09:08] <_Shade_> _4str1: but it's impossible... apt-get won't allow me to do this. I just wanted it to do so after update
[09:08] <_4str1> _Sh
[09:08] <_4str1> sh
[09:09] <_4str1> oups
[09:09] <SonhadorPR> anybody know why this is happening?
[09:09] <_Shade_> _4str1: but it will last some time so i wanted to put the command (if there is any) to do so just AFTER the update
[09:09] <_Shade_> SonhadorPR: what's happening actually?
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[09:10] <omega_> hy jeanette
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[09:10] <jhutchins> _Shade_: You can make one command dependant on the successful completion of another by using <comand one> && <command two>
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[09:10] <jhutchins> _Shade_: So sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:10] <omega_> hy melinda
[09:10] <SonhadorPR> _Shade_: I open the Exaile music player, or Mozilla fireFox....at least those 2 Im having problems with...I closed them, for any reason, and try to open them again..and they wont open.
[09:11] <_Shade_> jhutchins: i know that but the point is i have ran an adept updater already
[09:11] <_4str1> SonhadorPR: open a terminal and type : ps -A | grep firefox
[09:11] <karim_> hi all
[09:11] <marcos> oi
[09:11] <marcos> alguem tem como me ajudar com alguma dika de sala sobre hackers
[09:11] <SonhadorPR> dude, the terminal windows is not opening either right now
[09:11] <jhutchins> !es | marcos
[09:11] <SonhadorPR> I just now noticed
[09:11] <_4str1> _Shade_: that's what the adept updater do : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:11] <ubotu> marcos: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:12] <_Shade_> SonhadorPR: well i have the kind of issues sometimes as well... does it help if you try to run it several times... ?
[09:12] <_4str1> SonhadorPR: try ctrl + esc
[09:12] <_Shade_> SonhadorPR: and try to put these to your terminal and see what happens
[09:12] <SonhadorPR> no.....it just keeps trying to open them, but they dont open..it just hangs, and shuts down the program
[09:13] <jono> Does anyone here know how to setup the logitech MX5000 mouse and keyboard in bluetooth mode?
[09:13] <_4str1> SonhadorPR: try press ctrl + esc and see the process state
[09:13] <SonhadorPR> hold on...2 ppl giving different commands at the time...
[09:13] <_Shade_> _4str1: i know i know but i want it to install some software automatically after the update since i have to be away from my machine for a while
[09:14] <SonhadorPR> I did the ctrl esc..and a ProcessTable [modified]  KDE System Guard window came up
[09:14] <_4str1> SonhadorPR: so look for firefox for exemple
[09:14] <_Shade_> SonhadorPR: check if there are... oh nevermind :D
[09:15] <jhutchins> _Shade_: You can just type the next command while the update's running (in the same console).
[09:15] <jhutchins> _Shade_: If you'r trying to figure it out after you already started the update.
[09:15] <SonhadorPR> Im sorry newbie here...you mean search for it, or scroll down the list?....because its not on the list...
[09:15] <_4str1> _Shade_: or write a shell script
[09:16] <_4str1> ^^
[09:16] <_Shade_> jhutchins: well i don't think that's possible since i started adept clicking on it's icon
[09:16] <jhutchins> _Shade_: Ah.  Nothing you can do about that then.
[09:16] <_Shade_> jhutchins: ok then :) i'll wait some seconds :P
[09:16] <jhutchins> _Shade_: You can schedule the job for a time when you guess the update will be completed using the "at" command in console, not sure what the GUI equivalent is.
[09:17] <_4str1> _Shade_: set up a cron and test if adept-updater process is on, if not perform the installation if yes, try in 5 min
[09:17] <_Shade_> jhutchins: i could use the sleep command too but it's risky
[09:18] <_Shade_> jhutchins: because you never know when it's finished
[09:18] <SonhadorPR> ok...still holding on further instructions about the ProcessTable window......FireFox doesnt show up
[09:19] <_4str1> SonhadorPR: is it the first time you have the problem ?
[09:20] <_Shade_> SonhadorPR: what does console say when you type firefox in it?
[09:21] <SonhadorPR> yes...I just noticed it 10 minutes ago..
[09:21] <SonhadorPR> I log off, and they work again..but just once..
[09:21] <SonhadorPR> I re-boot, and they work again...but just once..
[09:21] <SonhadorPR> actually...If I open the music player first..then FireFox wont open period
[09:22] <_Shade_> SonhadorPR: abd what does konsole says ?
[09:22] <SonhadorPR> I don have a konsole open..
[09:22] <SonhadorPR> I have the ProcessTable [modified]  KDE System Guard window open
[09:22] <davf> Anyone can help me with this in k3b? Failed to retrieve all CSS keys.
[09:23] <_4str1> SonhadorPR: which music player ?
[09:23] <alli_sim> does anybody know why my GL apps are realy realy slow, like 386 slow? I have a ATI Radeon card
[09:23] <_Shade_> SonhadorPR: try to open up a terminal and type firefox
[09:23] <SonhadorPR> Exaile Music Player
[09:23] <fdoving> SonhadorPR: something is probably blocking the sound device, if you open a konsole and run 'sudo fuser -vki /dev/dsp' you might get a clue.
[09:23] <_4str1> SonhadorPR: i never try it
[09:23] <_Shade_> or exaile or whatever
[09:23] <SonhadorPR> The Terminal Window starts to open, but 1 second later shuts down...
[09:24] <rodrigo> the kubuntu sos have a litle problems
[09:24] <rodrigo> simple but are problems
[09:24] <fdoving> SonhadorPR: does alt+f2 'xterm' work ?
[09:24] <_Shade_> fdoving: but the issue connects to firefox as well so it might not be a sound device problem
[09:25] <SonhadorPR> yes...the run command window opened
[09:25] <root_> hello, hoping someone has advice, I thought my 8800gst was stoping loading kubuntu, now i know i have drivers installed right and can change resulution in recovery mode with nvidia settings tool and things look fine. system seems to stop loading jsut before the kubuntu splash screen any one help?
[09:26] <fdoving> SonhadorPR: does it work if you write 'xterm' and run it?
[09:26] <SonhadorPR> yup...there we go..
[09:26] <SonhadorPR> the terminal window is now open
[09:26] <fdoving> SonhadorPR: now, try 'sudo fuser -vki /dev/dsp'
[09:27] <_Shade_> hey guys i just finished the update and my kernel updated as well... which package should i remove to get rid of the older one?
[09:27] <N3WM0nk> ummm.. I am looking for help on the SC92031 issue???
[09:28] <SonhadorPR> nothing happened
[09:28] <ardchoille> !seveas
[09:28] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:29] <N3WM0nk> can someone help me to install ndiswrapper?
[09:29] <fdoving> _Shade_: linux-image-VERSION, where VERSION is the old version.
[09:29] <N3WM0nk> i cant get it to work...
[09:29] <SonhadorPR> fdoving: I typed the command, but nothing seemed to happen, now what?
[09:29] <fdoving> SonhadorPR: that means nothing is locking the sound device.
[09:30] <fdoving> SonhadorPR: what if you now try to write 'firefox' ?
[09:30] <SonhadorPR> ok...let me see..
[09:30] <cabroni> Hi again, try http://live.linux-gamers.net/ to play games
[09:31] <N3WM0nk> can someone help me to install ndiswrapper?
[09:31] <N3WM0nk> i cant get it to work...
[09:31] <SonhadorPR> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 167
[09:31] <SonhadorPR> Major opcode: 155
[09:31] <SonhadorPR> Minor opcode: 3
[09:31] <SonhadorPR> Resource id: 0x0
[09:31] <SonhadorPR> Failed to open device
[09:32] <N3WM0nk> Plz can someone help me to install ndiswrapper? i cant get it to install...
[09:34] <SonhadorPR> fdoving: you got that?
[09:34] <_4strO> !baddevice | SonhadorPR
[09:34] <ubotu> SonhadorPR: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[09:34] <fdoving> SonhadorPR: yeah, but that is something else..
[09:35] <fdoving> SonhadorPR: what if you try 'konsole' ?
[09:35] <_4strO> lokks like it's a gtk pb
[09:35] <SonhadorPR> ok a shell konsole window just opned up
[09:36] <StoneNewt> not specifically kubuntu but as it's my distro right now, what are the driver problems with nVidia 8000 series cards?
[09:36] <fdoving> SonhadorPR: good, then konsole works atleast.
[09:36] <SonhadorPR> ok..now what?
[09:37] <fdoving> SonhadorPR: if you logout and back in, does everything work?
[09:37] <SonhadorPR> yes....but for one session...if I close it, it wont open up again
[09:38] <N3WM0nk> Plz can someone help me to install ndiswrapper? i cant get it to install...
[09:38] <fdoving> SonhadorPR: ouch, well.. i don't know. i'm not a firefox user. might get more usefull tips from #ubuntu.
[09:38] <fdoving> !patience | n3wm0nk
[09:38] <ubotu> n3wm0nk: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:39] <SonhadorPR> yeah....but I dont think its just the firefox....or mainly the firefox....nothing opens....just once....all the programs, they only open once...
[09:39] <SonhadorPR> I sure if I close the konversation, and try to open it again...itll do the same..
[09:39] <SonhadorPR> or maybe not..
[09:39] <SonhadorPR> NOT...the Opera web browser seems to work fine..
[09:40] <SonhadorPR> I open it and close it not probs..
[09:40] <N3WM0nk> ok
[09:40] <N3WM0nk> sorry sorry, i did not know who to contact...
[09:40] <Lynoure> SonhadorPR: Has this been this way for how long? past a reboot?
[09:40] <fdoving> SonhadorPR: ok, you can check ~/.xsession-errors, please paste some of it's content to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - you can probably use 'kate ~/.xsession-errors' from the xterm window.
[09:40] <Prophezy> #Ubuntu-se
[09:41] <SonhadorPR> since like 20 minutes ago....  I first noticed the the Exaile Music player wouldnt reopen..
[09:41] <SonhadorPR> and then I tried the Firefox..and the same thing..
[09:41] <SonhadorPR> and then , here ate this channel, somebody told me to open tjhe terminal window...and that wont open either
[09:41] <vzduch> SonhadorPR: the acute accent is NOT an apostrophe!
[09:43] <Lynoure> vzduch: and this is not a spelling competition :)
[09:43] <Carutsu> hello, is there a way to extract password protected rar files with Ark?
[09:43] <SonhadorPR> vzduch, I have set up my kb language to US-English-International, to be able to use accnts on letters, for I speak Spanish and Portuguese...but the  or        dont come up at all
[09:44] <Lynoure> SonhadorPR: I'd suspect some dcop hickup, and not worry before starting that or kde does not help
[09:45] <vzduch> SonhadorPR: how about then using a Spanish or Portuguese kbd layout? ;)
[09:45] <_Shade_> is there any good howto about installing xgl on kubuntu? i was searching at google, ubuntu documentation, forums and irc channels but none of these helped
[09:46] <SonhadorPR> fdoving: this is what came up on the window -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31938/
[09:46] <fdoving> Carutsu: doesn't it ask for the password? do you have unrar installed?
[09:47] <Carutsu> fdoving: as far as i know i have it, and no doesnt ask for password
[09:47] <Carutsu> let me check if i have unrar installed
[09:47] <SonhadorPR> vzduch: what for?  with my keyboard, my physical keyboard is in English...if I change the language to Spanish or Port, itll change the letters around....
[09:47] <TheCreationist> My friend recently got rid of her wireless router and is not connecting her Feisty box directly to the cable modem via ethernet.  Her ethernet adapter is recognized, but she has no connection to the internet (although her Windows laptop connects fine with the same cable).  I have already tried configuring it manually with DHCP, but no luck.  Anyone know what else I can try?
[09:48] <Carutsu> fdoving: yep i do have instaled unrar
[09:48] <fdoving> SonhadorPR: looks like exaile complains because of a locked database.
[09:48] <Lynoure> TheCreationist: configuring it manually, or with dhcp?
[09:48] <SonhadorPR> ok!!   how can I fix this?
[09:49] <galopez> jose, jose, estas aqui??...xD
[09:49] <SonhadorPR> No...Jos est all!!
[09:49] <galopez> ahmmmmm.....ok!
[09:49] <jhutchins> TheCreationist: Is it supposed to use pppoe?
[09:50] <Carutsu> the problem is that it's not asking for password, I will use unrar directly
[09:50] <Lynoure> SonhadorPR: like I said, I'd recommend just restarting X. Unless you are talking about the accent thing?
[09:50] <jhutchins> TheCreationist: Does she have a login for internet use?
[09:50] <Lynoure> SonhadorPR: then if it persists, it's time to dig deeper.
[09:50] <jhutchins> TheCreationist: Check the settings in Windows carefully, see what you need to duplicate in linux.
[09:50] <jhutchins> TheCreationist: She should be sure to run a firewall, the router may have had one for her.
[09:51] <_4strO> Carutsu: same pb here
[09:51] <SonhadorPR> Lyn: I know...but if only one program works at a time...thats not good......... I have to log-out every time I want to start a new program?
[09:51] <SonhadorPR> thats not fun....
[09:51] <_4strO> ark only give me a error message saying that he didn't ask me the password
[09:51] <SonhadorPR> I might al well use Windows all the time...
[09:52] <mikkael> is it dangerous to remove all -dev packages as im not compiling anything from now on :) ?
[09:52] <jhutchins> _4strO: ark doesn't work with passworded rar's, it doesn't have a mechanism to pass the password prompt back to the user.
[09:52] <_4strO> SonhadorPR: try to use your linux without launch youer media playert
[09:52] <fdoving> mikkael: no.
[09:52] <SonhadorPR> how can I change back to Ubuntu from Kubuntu...I might as well do that....Ubuntu never gave me these much problems!
[09:52] <mikkael> good this will free >300 mb
[09:53] <Lynoure> SonhadorPR: no, I'm suspecting this to be one time thing.
[09:53] <mikkael> oh you said NO
[09:53] <jhutchins> SonhadorPR: ask in #ubuntu or google "pure ubuntu".
[09:53] <Lynoure> SonhadorPR: but, well, it's your choice
[09:53] <SonhadorPR> 4stro, I want to be able to listen to music.....and surf the web
[09:53] <mikkael> nvm, i said dangerous, not safe ;)
[09:53] <SonhadorPR> ok..
[09:53] <_4strO> SonhadorPR: it's just for see if your player is the reason of your problems
[09:53] <SonhadorPR> Im gonna try to reboot, and launch again....Ill tel you what happens
[09:54] <galopez> program for listen music??
[09:54] <fdoving> galopez: amarok.
[09:54] <dmitri> hy guys,does anyone know if it is possible to execute pages that contain js with wget, so that i can wget the pagesource with the echo of the js
[09:54] <SonhadorPR> I think it is...because the Amarok also gave me problems
[09:54] <galopez> thanks
[09:54] <yurimxpxman> what's the best app to do simple video editing?
[09:54] <mikkael> avidemux ?
[09:54] <SonhadorPR> I changed the mp3 files to open with Exaile, when Amarok couldnt play them
[09:54] <_4strO> kino
[09:54] <alesan> hi what is the suer and pwd I have to use for the livecd, if I logout?
[09:54] <alesan> I am at the kdm prompt now
[09:55] <Ryaren> hi
[09:55] <Ryaren> How can I mount my DVD writer?
[09:55] <_4strO> alesan: root / without pass ?
[09:55] <alesan> _4strO, absolutely not :) come on
[09:55] <SonhadorPR> well....Im gonna reboot, and see what happens
[09:56] <fdoving> dmitri: no, wget doesn't understand javascript.
[09:56] <scotty> when I try to adjust my clock, I get "conversation with su failed"
[09:56] <jhutchins> dmitri: Yes, have a look at the man page for wget.
[09:56] <scotty> How do I fix it?
[09:56] <_4strO> alesan: so i dont know
[09:56] <jhutchins> Ryaren: Technically you can't.
[09:56] <_4strO> alesan: when you're in with the live CD root hasn't any pass
[09:56] <jhutchins> Ryaren: You could mount a CD/DVD that's in it.
[09:56] <alesan> _4strO, also in a normal instalation
[09:56] <alesan> installation
[09:57] <mikkael> xutils-dev and python2.5-dev depend on kubuntu-desktop, so i better keep those
[09:57] <_4strO> alesan: or when you type a root command, it didn't ask you a password
[09:57] <alesan> and for sure you cannot login on kdm with user root by default :)
[09:57] <Ryaren> jhutchins: How can I list my detected optical drives?
[09:57] <alesan> _4strO, the user has no password, not root
[09:57] <fdoving> alesan: what about 'ubuntu' with no password?
[09:57] <_4strO> alesan: right !
[09:57] <alesan> fdoving, not working
[09:57] <jhutchins> Ryaren: sudo fdisk -l will list all mountable media.
[09:57] <alesan> fdoving, not even kubuntu was working
[09:58] <fdoving> alesan: what if you just restart KDM?
[09:58] <alesan> fdoving, I gave up I am now rebooting...
[09:58] <jhutchins> Ryaren: If a drive is empty, it won't list though.
[09:58] <TheCreationist> jhutchins: As fas as I know, she doesn't need any kind of login.  She uses comcast high-speed, which I use as well.  Ubuntu detected and connected automatically for me and she has basically an identical setup.
[09:58] <fdoving> alesan: restarting KDM only should work, as autologin probably is enabled.
[09:58] <Ryaren> huhh
[09:58] <Ryaren> ok
[09:59] <Carutsu2> _4strO: friend, use the folowing command: unrar x <PATH_OF_FILE>
[09:59] <edina> hello
[09:59] <Carutsu2> _4strO: then it will ask for the password
[09:59] <_4strO> Carutsu2: yes i know ;)
[09:59] <Carutsu2> _4strO: then you could've told me
[09:59] <edina> anyone knows how to read my files from vista in kubuntu?
[09:59] <jhutchins> TheCreationist: She may need to reset the modem, sometimes they lock in the MAC of whatever is connected to them.
[10:00] <jhutchins> TheCreationist: reset modem, then restart networking on the PC.
[10:00] <yurimxpxman> mikkael: do you know what media backend avidemux uses?
[10:00] <alesan> what is that lists at the beginning of boot process the options like "start or install ubuntu" "safe graphics" and so on? Isolinux?
[10:00] <Ryaren> Okay it is working now thank you very much jhutchins
[10:00] <mikkael> yurimxpxman: nope, im not using it
[10:00] <mikkael> gstreamer ?
[10:01] <_4strO> alesan: try yo reboot and when you're into the livecd session type 'whoami' in a terminal ;)
[10:01] <edina> anyone?
[10:01] <dmitri> jhutchins: i have 3 times readed the wget man
[10:01] <stoned> hehe
[10:01] <stoned> readed
[10:02] <mikkael> edina: you have to mount your windows partition
[10:02] <edina> ok, how?
[10:02] <dmitri> technically i have to execute the page with wget and pipe with a java script interpreter
[10:02] <dmitri> and i dont know how to do that
[10:02] <edina> what did went to storage media
[10:02] <edina> i see an os
[10:02] <mikkael> edina: there should be a good howto in a wiki
[10:02] <edina> when i try to mount it i got an error message
[10:02] <TheCreationist> jhutchins: Okay, I'll try that.  How do I reset networking?  ifdown?
[10:03] <_4strO> yes
[10:03] <SonhadorPR> ok folks..
[10:03] <jhutchins> TheCreationist: /etc/init.d/network restart
[10:03] <edina> where? i searched the ubuntu site for 30 min now
[10:03] <fdoving> !ntfs | edina
[10:03] <ubotu> edina: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:03] <lontra> hi i have two questions ... 1.  what is the default size of the kicker and 2.  how does kubuntu make that icon effect and is it available on kde-look?
[10:03] <SonhadorPR> I rebooted, and Im back...now Ill attempt to use FireFox
[10:03] <TheCreationist> jhutchins: Alright, thank you.
[10:03] <SonhadorPR> ok...FireFox is opened
[10:04] <SonhadorPR> Noe...I shall close it, and try to open it again
[10:04] <SonhadorPR> its working....
[10:04] <edina> let me try this script thing its talking about
[10:04] <SonhadorPR> I do believe the problems consists in the Music Player..
[10:05] <SonhadorPR> shit!
[10:05] <jhutchins> !language | SonhadorPR
[10:05] <ubotu> SonhadorPR: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:05] <_4strO> ^^
[10:05] <SonhadorPR> I do apologize!
[10:05] <jhutchins> SonhadorPR: What music player are you trying to use?
[10:06] <SonhadorPR> I had a problem using the Amorok, since it wouldnt play MP3s...
[10:06] <SonhadorPR> so I change it to Exaile, since it did play them..
[10:06] <SonhadorPR> but apparently the program hanged for some reason..
[10:06] <vzduch> Studio Brussel playing some really nice music tonight :)
[10:06] <jhutchins> SonhadorPR: try this: rm .xine (in console)
[10:06] <SonhadorPR> it played one song, I shut it down...and then tryied to open it up again...and it wouldnt ..
[10:06] <SonhadorPR> however this also affected the other programs as well...FireFox and even the Terminal Window
[10:07] <jhutchins> SonhadorPR: I'd say don't use that program any more!
[10:07] <_4strO> and get the right codecs
[10:07] <jhutchins> !info Exaile
[10:07] <ubotu> exaile: flexible audio player, similar to Amarok, but written in GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.8+debian-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 294 kB, installed size 1408 kB
[10:07] <SonhadorPR> ok  I wont...then what do you suggest for playing MP#s, since the amorok doesnt like them
[10:07] <SonhadorPR> ?
[10:07] <_4strO> !codecs | SonhadorPR
[10:07] <ubotu> SonhadorPR: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:07] <Daisuke_Ido> install the right codecs then
[10:08] <Daisuke_Ido> amarok works just fine.
[10:08] <jhutchins>  http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2006/12/03/amarok-suddenly-stops-playing-mp3s/
[10:08] <edina> mikkael
[10:08] <SonhadorPR> well amorok told me that it didnt like mp3s
[10:08] <edina> thank you very much
[10:09] <vzduch> SonhadorPR: if so, it lacks codecs
[10:09] <mikkael> edina, whats your language ?
[10:09] <SonhadorPR> something about getting codecs to play yhem..I tell it to go ahead...but it doesnt do anything
[10:09] <edina> magyar
[10:09] <jhutchins> SonhadorPR: read the restricted formats page and follow the relevant links.
[10:09] <vzduch> !hu | edina
[10:09] <ubotu> edina: Magyar nyelv segtsget az #ubuntu-hu csatornn tall
[10:09] <edina> english is good enough thanks
[10:10] <SonhadorPR> it tellsm me it cannot remove xine, it is a directory
[10:10] <_4strO> edina: ^^
[10:10] <jhutchins> Cool!  Didn't know we had a hungarian channel.
[10:10] <SonhadorPR> Why do I want to remove xine
[10:10] <SonhadorPR> ?
[10:10] <Daisuke_Ido> wtf are you doing?
[10:10] <vzduch> jhutchins: hrhr, ever you can learn something here ;)
[10:10] <jhutchins> SonhadorPR: That just removes a file from your home directory, like a bookmark file.
[10:10] <jhutchins> vzduch: I try to every day!
[10:11] <mikkael> edina, first of all you need to create a folder, where you will mount your windows in
[10:11] <jhutchins> SonhadorPR: That assumes that Amarok was working and stopped.
[10:11] <Prophezy> !permission
[10:11] <edina> this script did everything
[10:11] <mikkael> sudo mkdir /media/vista
[10:11] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[10:11] <vzduch> edina: no need to pull a face, it was just a hint :)
[10:11] <Daisuke_Ido> SonhadorPR: i would like to recommend installing libxine-extracodecs
[10:12] <SonhadorPR> ok..let me go ahead and do that.... Ill let you know what happens
[10:12] <mikkael> i wouldnt trust a script in that case
[10:12] <mikkael> in case you got IDE-Drive, and hda1 is your linux partition type: sudo mount -t ntfs -o defaults,uid=0,gid=46,umask=007 /dev/hda1 /mount/vista
[10:13] <mikkael> ehm your windows partitoin*
[10:13] <mikkael> replace hda1 with your windows partition..
[10:13] <jhutchins> mikkael: Where are you coming up with the gid?
[10:13] <_4strO> lol
[10:13] <edina> thank u for everything it was much faster than reading the forums
[10:14] <mikkael> im pasting from a wiki
[10:14] <vzduch> jhutchins: the gid is created by ntfsconfig (or what was the name again?) afaik
[10:14] <edina> it looks like its working i can see the files...
[10:15] <vzduch> jhutchins: I too had that after my first Kubuntu install when I used Automatix to set up ntfs-3g.. on 2nd install I did that by hand but took over that fstab line because it works :)
[10:15] <mikkael> edina: you got read-only access, and this is only temporary
[10:16] <_4strO> mikkael: jhutchins gid=46 looks like the gid for an external HD
[10:16] <edina> the script said i will get this acces everytime i start linux
[10:16] <mikkael> if you want to have this mounted every boot you need to edit your !fstab
[10:16] <jhutchins> Ah, I see, it's the plugdev group.
[10:16] <_4strO> yup
[10:16] <mikkael> edina: now you didnt use your script, right
[10:16] <_4strO> for an internal one gid=1000 should be better :p
[10:16] <jhutchins> !automatix
[10:16] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:16] <edina> i did it
[10:17] <_4strO> or gid=100
[10:17] <edina> did exactly what that page said
[10:17] <mikkael> give the link please
[10:17] <mikkael> !WorksForMe
[10:17] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[10:17] <edina> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[10:18] <edina> anyway i got another question
[10:18] <edina> i have a dell amd64 computer that i just installed kubuntu yesterday
[10:19] <edina> my videocard is ati
[10:19] <Daisuke_Ido> poor child
[10:19] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm so sorry :(
[10:19] <edina> but at my display i got a vesa driver and i cant set the monitor to 1280X960
[10:20] <Daisuke_Ido> edina: may have to install fglrx
[10:20] <_4strO> edina: wich ati card ?
[10:20] <vzduch> jhutchins: no need to tell me that ;)
[10:20] <edina> its kinda blurry and distorted now since it is not the right proprtion but i cant choose this resolution
[10:20] <edina> where d i look into to see the exact type?
[10:21] <_4strO> edina:  lspci | grep VGA in a terminal
[10:21] <mikkael> of your gfx-card ?
[10:22] <vzduch> edina: your xorg.conf has a 'Section "Monitor"', there you have to specify a 'HorizSync' and a 'VertRefresh' value in the form aa-bb (w/ aa being the lowest and bb the highest value your monitor can handle)
[10:22] <edina> said: ATI Tech Inc unknown device 7183
[10:23] <_4strO> :/
[10:23] <_4strO> weird
[10:23] <edina> my monitor is a wide screen flat panel
[10:23] <edina> have this different type of plug
[10:23] <_4strO> that is not the problem
[10:24] <edina> now it goes as a plugnplay monitor becasue it is not among the dell monitors
[10:25] <_4strO> edina: the problem is that your kernel doesn't see which video card you have
[10:25] <edina> well that does not sound good
[10:25] <_4strO> and then set the vesa driver otherwise setting a radeon or fglrx one
[10:26] <_4strO> edina:yo can try to set one manually
[10:26] <edina> will not kill my display\/
[10:27] <_4strO> edina: type this : sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.bak
[10:27] <edina> i already changed it once and it went unreadable had to reinstall the whole thing becasue all igot is the command line and i am not that good to live wihout X
[10:28] <_4strO> edina: you want to know more about it or just leave it ?
[10:28] <edina> i want to use it properly
[10:28] <edina> with the right proportions at least
[10:28] <cje> hi, I am just installing kubuntu edgy, and I am interested in getting a video-related package called smilutils.  What repository do I need to enable in the Adept Package manager, please?
[10:28] <edina> and sharper if its possible
[10:28] <edina> like vista does
[10:29] <_4strO> edina: wich driver you tried ?
[10:29] <nicolai_> cje: Why install Edgy now Feisty has been released?
[10:29] <edina> I DID NOT CHANGE THE DRIVER BUT INSTEAD OF PLUG AN PLAY I CHOOSE A MONITOR THAT HAD W AS I GUESS WIDE IN THE LIST
[10:29] <edina> sorry abot caps
[10:30] <cje> nicolai_: I am installing Edgy because my guru wrote a bunch of tools for Edgy specifically.
[10:30] <edina> shoukd i backup my xorg file now?
[10:31] <_4strO> edina: yep
[10:31] <cje> nicolai_: I am producing a documentary film called "The Digital Tipping Point" for Windows noobs about how cool FOSS is, and I am using all Free Software tools to do it.
[10:31] <_4strO> edina: we gonna try to change the driver
[10:31] <edina> i just did the backup
[10:31] <_4strO> edina: if X wont restart correctly, have you gat a liveCD N?
[10:31] <_4strO> got*
[10:31] <cje> nicolai_:  But we have standardized on Edgy, and I can't bug him to update to Feisty, because he wrote the tools for free.
[10:32] <edina> yeah that what i used to reinstall the whole thing
[10:32] <_4strO> edina: ok so you dont need to reinstall it, just use the liveCD to reconnect here ;)
[10:32] <jhutchins> !find smiutils
[10:32] <ubotu> Package/file smiutils does not exist in feisty
[10:32] <edina> ok
[10:32] <edina> good idea:)
[10:32] <_4strO> edina: ;)
[10:33] <edina> what now?
[10:33] <_4strO> edina: so now type : kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:33] <_4strO> edina: and paste the whole file
[10:33] <nicolai_> cje: I can see the smilutils package in Feisty with medibuntu repository and main, restricted, universe, multiverse enabled for all repositories.
[10:33] <cje> nicolai_: here are the tools and what we use them for:  http://digitaltippingpoint.com/wiki/index.php?title=From_Tape_to_Archive
[10:33] <_4strO> !paste | edina
[10:33] <ubotu> edina: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:34] <_4strO> just in case ...
[10:34] <cje> nicolai_: k, thanks!  I will try enabling multiverse, I guess?
[10:34] <edina> its pretty long...
[10:35] <Schuenemann> how do I remove xubuntu?
[10:35] <SonhadorPR> how do I remove kubuntu?
[10:35] <edina> how do i do this\/ where?
[10:35] <_4strO> edina: ctrl + c and up arrow
[10:35] <Daisuke_Ido> SonhadorPR: get the codec package installed?
[10:35] <_4strO> lol SonhadorPR
[10:36] <Schuenemann> Is removing xubuntu-desktop enough?
[10:36] <edina> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31948/
[10:36] <edina> cool
[10:36] <Daisuke_Ido> xubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage
[10:36] <Schuenemann> what do I have to do?
[10:37] <edina> it does knwo my monitor type...
[10:38] <_4strO> edina: ok just try to replace "vesa" by "radeon" in the 86 line
[10:38] <nicolai_> cje: According to adept the filename is: pool/universe/s/smilutils/smilutils/smilutils_0.3.0-12build1_i386.deb
[10:38] <edina> but does not give me the option to choose the right proportion
[10:39] <edina> i guess i do it inthe graphical interface... i that ok?
[10:39] <_4strO> yes
[10:39] <Schuenemann> how do I remove xubuntu?
[10:39] <_4strO> Schuenemann: sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop
[10:40] <edina> now apply i guess...
[10:40] <Schuenemann> that is just a meta-package
[10:40] <_4strO> Schuenemann: but some apps will stay
[10:40] <_4strO> edina: save ;)
[10:40] <Schuenemann> I need them removed
[10:40] <edina> says it not been succesfully tested
[10:40] <_4strO> :/
[10:40] <edina> same error message that i got th elast time when it went astray
[10:41] <cje> nicolai_: I am getting closer, but I still appear to have a problem.  I have Adept open.  I click on Adept > manage repositories and then I scroll down and right click on deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports main restricted univers multiverse and then I do a search for smilutils in Adept, but the search yields no results.  What am I doing wrong, please?
[10:42] <_4strO> Schuenemann: many xubuntu packages begin with xfce
[10:43] <edina> there is test button
[10:43] <_4strO> Schuenemann: you should try a research in adept for ex
[10:43] <Schuenemann> meaning?
[10:43] <edina> it went black then it came back...
[10:43] <Schuenemann> there must be a better way that does not require removing individual packages
[10:44] <nicolai_> cje: I believe it is because the package is not available in Edgy, but I can check fo you if you want.
[10:44] <_4strO> Schuenemann: i dont know another way sorry
[10:45] <nicolai_> cje: I've found the link for the feisty package
[10:45] <edina> is there a way to see what ati card i got or jsut look into from vista?
[10:45] <_4strO> Schuenemann: remove the meta package and then find the xfce* packages
[10:46] <_4strO> edina: look for some stickers on your computer or get the manuals
[10:46] <cje> nicolai_: Thanks, that is kind of you to offer to look for the Edgy package.  And with regard to Feisty, I am not going to be able to use it because we are standardized on Edgy. .  I am in a computer that has PClinuxOS installed.  I am going to log off of this computer and log into another box that has the tools installed.  I will be back in about 5 mins.  see ya.
[10:46] <_4strO> edina: you said it's a dell ?
[10:46] <edina> i just tried ati but it did nto work eother
[10:46] <edina> yes
[10:46] <_4strO> edina: so get the reference like serial number and go to their website
[10:47] <_4strO> edina: or just the model name
[10:48] <edina> inspiron 531
[10:50] <edina> well it came with vista and i cant get the driver from a pulldown menu for linux...
[10:51] <edina> there are ati drivers btu they are for vista i think...
[10:51] <_4strO> edina: Carte graphique ATI Radeon X1300 Pro de 256 Mo i think
[10:52] <_4strO> edina: http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/inspndt_531?c=fr&l=fr&s=dhs&cs=frdhs1
[10:53] <edina> its french...
[10:53] <edina> the link you sent...
[10:54] <_4strO> ho sorry
[10:54] <_4strO> try to find yours
[10:54] <edina> i did but like i said i dont see any linux drivers
[10:54] <edina> only these .exe files
[10:56] <_4strO> edina: try with the fglrx driver
[10:58] <_4strO> edina: it should work
[10:58] <edina> radeon x 1300 pro 256 card
[10:58] <edina> i just looked it up from my order
[10:58] <edina> fglrx? let me see
[11:00] <edina> i choose the ati radeon fglrx driver tested it went black came back to the old one
[11:01] <edina> maybe on the ati site?
[11:01] <Aranel> how can i mount a .iso or .cue file in Kubuntu ? (virtual cd. like Daemon Tools in windows)
[11:01] <zombielion> Can anyone help with devede
[11:01] <_4strO> edina: noway it should work
[11:01] <edina> i can try it again
[11:02] <Vuen> hi there. anyone use kmail with gnupg? i'm having trouble decrypting messages.
[11:02] <BluesKaj> edina: dunno if this'll work for your ati radeon but it does for my elcheapo onboard X200G: http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[11:02] <Vuen> when i view a message that has been encrypted, it just says "error: bad passphrase" and can't decrypt it. but it never actually asks for the passphrase.
[11:02] <edina> there is a lsit under driver but there isnt a fglx there only under manufacturers
[11:03] <Vuen> if i save the message and decrypt it via command line, i can read it just fine.
[11:03] <Vuen> anyone know what's wrong?
[11:03] <_4strO> edina: fglrx :p
[11:03] <_4strO> edina: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI should be easyer
[11:04] <edina> yes now i chose that one like before going to test it...
[11:04] <Aranel> how can i mount a .iso or .cue file in Kubuntu ? (virtual cd. like Daemon Tools in windows)
[11:04] <edina> nothing but 2 seconds of blacknes and one flickering then come back the same state
[11:04] <BluesKaj> edina, the URL I posted gives 3D and Direct rendering for apps like google earth that need 3D graphics
[11:04] <Vuen> nevermind, it looks like i'm just missing gnupg-agent
[11:05] <_4strO> Aranel: not sure but mplayer should do it
[11:05] <hsn_> !java
[11:05] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[11:05] <edina> well anyway i got the wrong monitor from dell they should me the right one the ultrasharp one btu i guess it wont work either properly...
[11:05] <Schuenemann> Aranel, I think you can mount the iso using 'mount'
[11:06] <Aranel> Schuenemann: like mount /iso/file /mnt/cdrom1  ?
[11:06] <vzduch> Aranel: the other way round
[11:06] <_4strO> edina: wich resolution you need ?
[11:06] <Schuenemann> I don't know the syntax exacly, it has -o something
[11:06] <Schuenemann> iso9336 or something like that
[11:07] <edina> right now i jsut want a 1280x960
[11:07] <Aranel> Schuenemann: :)
[11:07] <Schuenemann> Aranel, is the .cue .mdf?
[11:07] <vzduch> something like 'sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/file.iso /media/cdrom1
[11:07] <edina> but i guess it can do something better but what i care the most the right proportion not the 4:3
[11:07] <Schuenemann> yes heh
[11:07] <Schuenemann> very different hehe
[11:07] <_4strO> edina: type in a terminal : kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:07] <Aranel> Schuenemann: i converted .cue to .iso . I need mounting .iso file
[11:07] <BluesKaj> how do I make this command permanent in startup ? , xmodmap -e "remove lock = Caps_Lock"... hate that caps lock key
[11:08] <Schuenemann> Aranel, how did you?
[11:08] <savetheWorld> BluesKaj: for which user?
[11:08] <Aranel> Schuenemann: i can't remember :P maybe "bchunk" , i'm not sure.
[11:08] <BluesKaj> only me using this pc
[11:08] <_4strO> edina: and put a "1280x960" in front of all lines who have screen resiolution
[11:08] <Schuenemann> :-/
[11:08] <savetheWorld> BluesKaj: you can try putting it in your .xinitrc,
[11:09] <edina> ok wont it mess it up?
[11:09] <BluesKaj>   /etc/.xinitrc
[11:10] <BluesKaj> ?
[11:10] <_4strO> edina: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31957/
[11:10] <_4strO> edina: like this
[11:10] <_4strO> edina: if this resolution wont work xorg will pass to the next one
[11:10] <edina> ok
[11:10] <zombielion> is this for real cant nobody help with devede im sure someone knows something
[11:11] <Schuenemann> !ask | zombielion
[11:11] <ubotu> zombielion: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:11] <_4strO> edina: then save the file and resta X by exit session or press ctrl alt sup (it will be more violent)
[11:11] <_4strO> edina: ctrl alt del :p
[11:12] <edina> ok i modified it
[11:12] <edina> sup?
[11:12] <jhutchins> _4strO: Maybe ctrl-alt-backspace?
[11:12] <_4strO> loool yup
[11:12] <edina> yeah that what i thought
[11:13] <edina> ok
[11:13] <zombielion> fine the last time i really asked it i still didnt get help. everytime i sucessfully convert an avi to iso with devede there are lines in the movie it didnt convert right or somthing and then the other times it just stops running and locks up after it converts the movie and is just making the iso. no the os just the app
[11:13] <BluesKaj> savetheWorld, where is the .xinitrc file located in / or /etc or ... ?
[11:13] <edina> let see if u dont here from me buy some flowers
[11:13] <_4strO> sorry i'm a little french and high ! :p
[11:13] <savetheWorld> BluesKaj:  in the user's home directory
[11:14] <jhutchins> zombielion: about 969,000 English pages for transcoding avi. (0.06 seconds)
[11:14] <_4strO> ^^
[11:14] <noldo> howto install openGL to ubuntu? please, help!
[11:14] <jhutchins> zombielion: Are you trying to make a DVD that will play in a normal player?
[11:15] <noldo> no
[11:15] <bind> como instalar o Skype no Kubuntu?
[11:15] <cj> hey, i upgraded my dapper install to feisty but am now stuck with a US keyboard layout despite tweaking xorg.conf - am i missign a package?
[11:15] <edina> hi guys
[11:15] <BluesKaj> nope not in mine , savetheWorld
[11:15] <zombielion> ya
[11:15] <edina> i got the right proportions
[11:16] <jhutchins> !skype | bind
[11:16] <ubotu> bind: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[11:16] <zombielion> i just go into video dvd
[11:16] <bind> thanks!!
[11:16] <savetheWorld> BluesKaj:  hmm. you can try your .bash_profile or your .bashrc then
[11:16] <zombielion> and it seems the more i search the more i find command line ways to make a dvd i think that it is 2007 it should have an interface by now
[11:16] <edina> it looks much better now
[11:17] <zombielion> well you know what i mean
[11:17] <jhutchins> zombielion: I use the tovid package.  I suggest you browse around and read about the process, it's somewhat complex.
[11:17] <edina> still not as sharp as i would like but ok
[11:17] <BluesKaj>  /.bashrc ?
[11:17] <jhutchins> zombielion: Video processing is customarily done from the command line.
[11:17] <jhutchins> zombielion: You don't think shrek was created under gnome, do you?
[11:17] <intelikey> BluesKaj ~/.bash_bashrc  in ubuntu i think
[11:18] <edina> now i am happy thank you very much
[11:18] <jhutchins> zombielion: Tovid does include some nice GUI wrappers, but it also shows you what commands they're generating.
[11:18] <jhutchins> zombielion: The command line is MUCH more powerful.
[11:19] <edina> a u rovier
[11:21] <Guilty_as_Sin> is anyone here familiar w/ nx (no machine's version that is)
[11:21] <neverblue> ssh tunnelling, say I want to use local hardware on remote software, is that possible (using a softphone, trying to make a call on this box, from my remote box) ?
[11:21] <nicolai_> cj: look in "system settings -> region and language"
[11:21] <jhutchins> neverblue: Nope.  You can execute what's on the remote box and have it display locally.
[11:22] <Guilty_as_Sin> neverblue..  that sounds interesting, I also would like to know the answer to that question
[11:22] <Guilty_as_Sin> oic
[11:23] <neverblue> jhutchins, so no way to handle control of the hardware?
[11:23] <Guilty_as_Sin> missed that last line
[11:23] <jhutchins> neverblue: Actually, twisted thinking, you could ssh to the remote box, ssh back, execute your local programs and have them pipe output to the remote, but then the remote would forward the display back to you.
[11:23] <cj> nicolai_: it doesn't seem to have any Available layouts
[11:23] <neverblue> ok...
[11:23] <neverblue> seems like alot
[11:23] <neverblue> ill just talk to my sys::admin :)
[11:23] <jhutchins> There ya go.
[11:23] <Guilty_as_Sin> in configuring nx all machines need both server and client packages. correct?
[11:24] <nicolai_> cj: no available or no active layouts? left or right coloum?
[11:24] <Guilty_as_Sin> I've been trying to read there manual but it seems that there manual is a bit choppy, or so it seems to me
[11:25] <cj> nicolai_: both are blank
[11:25] <neverblue> cannot do it :((
[11:28] <nicolai_> cj: try installing language-selector-qt and  language-selector-common
[11:28] <BluesKaj> nope , capslock is evil and can be defeated in systemsettings somehow , but i've forgotten ...it has to do with changing it's function to the ctrl key
[11:30] <intelikey> hmmm capslock >> enter   there's a thought...
[11:30] <mjmkb> for NX, I use the "client" for windows and had to install "server", "client" & "node" on my linux box.
[11:30] <intelikey> but i use caps lock so i wont do that
[11:31] <nicolai_> cj: also try installing  xkb-data
[11:34] <goodhabit> Hello! Can somebody help me? I have troubles with aptitude upgrade: http://nopaste.com/p/aaBy3nBRO
[11:34] <cj> nicolai_: all already installed
[11:35] <goodhabit> Problem is in dbus.
[11:35] <goodhabit> I don't know how to fix it.
[11:35] <ubuntu__> Hello
[11:35] <ubuntu__> Hello?
[11:36] <intelikey> goodhabit actually the problem is not in dbus it's in the init script for dbus
[11:36] <goodhabit> Whatever, i am a newbie on Linux :\
[11:36] <ubuntu__> I want to install kubuntu, I also would like to have a shared home partition with windows.
[11:36] <ubuntu__> can anyone help?
[11:36] <goodhabit> And i can't fix it myself.
[11:37] <jhutchins> goodhabit: what happens if you do sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:37] <goodhabit> ubuntu__: What means shared home partition?
[11:37] <goodhabit> dpkg --configure -a : http://nopaste.com/p/az1BPS6kU
[11:37] <ubuntu__> A partition that can be accesed in windows also linux
[11:38] <johann> ubuntu_: jast make a partition in FAT so you can access from win and linux
[11:38] <jhutchins> ubuntu__: Linux can access almost any filesystem, so you can just share the windows partition.  It's best to put linux on it's own partition, and to have a swap partition as well, so 3 partitions.
[11:38] <goodhabit> ubuntu__: Or there other solutions. For windows exist ext driver. For linux - ntfs driver. But better delete windows )
[11:39] <cje_> hi, I'm back.  I am trying to install a video package called transcode on Edgy Kubuntu.  Can someone please help me find the proper repository that would have it?
[11:39] <ubuntu__> I mean an actual "home" partition.
[11:40] <jhutchins> goodhabit: Try sudo apt-get --purge remove dbus
[11:40] <intelikey> jhutchins !
[11:41] <jhutchins> intelikey: No?
[11:41] <cj> jhutchins: one partition for the linux filesystem is too few in my oppinion
[11:41] <intelikey> jhutchins i'll try to stay out of it,  but did you check that command to see what all it took with it ?
[11:41] <nicolai_> cj: then your layout-problem needs someone more qualified than me looking at it :/
[11:41] <goodhabit> purgind debus wants to remove many other packages liki kubuntu-desktop, hal etc. I think it will not very good.
[11:42] <nicolai_> cje_: Wasn't it smilutils you needed?
[11:42] <cj> nicolai_: probably a problem with the dist-upgrade
[11:42] <jhutchins> cj: I prefer mine that way.  Murphy's law says that if you partition, the space you need will be on the other partition.
[11:42] <intelikey> jhutchins i don't think he can even purge it until it's configured...    dpkg is a pita on that
[11:42] <cje_> nicolai_, I was able to get smilutils installed somehow.  not sure how.
[11:42] <jhutchins> intelikey: Please feel free to jump in, I'm pretty new to apt/deb stuff.  Can't you tell it to _just_ remove dpkg?
[11:42] <cj> jhutchins: thats where LVM comes in handy
[11:43] <nicolai_> cje_: it turned up on its own? :P
[11:43] <jhutchins> cj: lvm is evil
[11:43] <cje_> nicolai_, so thanks for helping with smilutils.
[11:43] <intelikey> jhutchins ok. i pm'd him a dirty hack  all fixed now.
[11:43] <jhutchins> intelikey: Cool.
[11:43] <cje_> nicolai_, heh, no I was tweaking the repositories, and something must have worked.  Not sure what.
[11:43] <jhutchins> intelikey: Care to share?
[11:44] <cje_> nicolai_, it all happens so quickly, I can't always follow it.
[11:45] <nicolai_> cje_: I know the ffeling. Transcode is in multiverse on my computer.
[11:45] <ubuntu_linux> hello
[11:45] <ubuntu_linux> What command installing nvidia drivers under Kubuntu?
[11:45] <jhutchins> !nvidia | ubuntu_linux
[11:45] <ubotu> ubuntu_linux: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:46] <nicolai_> cje_: If you can't find the package I can provide you a link to both the tarball and a .deb that might work
[11:47] <hasan_> what does bleeding edge mean ?
[11:47] <hasan_> and cutting edge ?
[11:47] <nicolai_> cje_: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/t/transcode/
[11:47] <Daisuke_Ido> hasan_: not ready for production use
[11:47] <Daisuke_Ido> brand new stuff that's a lot more likely to break
[11:47] <nicolai_> hasan_: cutting edge = the best/newest there is
[11:47] <cje_> nicolai: thanks, now I have to figure out how to install it.
[11:47] <hasan_> ok thx nicolai:
[11:47] <jhutchins> cutting pretty much == bleeding.
[11:48] <nicolai_> hasan_: bleeding = not finished
[11:48] <hasan_> so i should not add them to my repository ?
[11:48] <intelikey> jhutchins and you can see why i didn't bother the "mostly beginners,"  channel with that.
[11:48] <Daisuke_Ido> um...   huh?
[11:48] <jhutchins> hasan_: Usually used in the context that if you are going to run the very newest hardware/software/whatever, you're going to have to expect that it will break and possibly do damage.
[11:48] <nicolai_> jhutchins: so bleeding = alpha and cutting = beta? :P
[11:48] <hasan_> in negative sense or not ready to use
[11:48] <hasan_> ok
[11:49] <hasan_> i ll not add then
[11:49] <jhutchins> nicolai_: Depends, different people use it differently.
[11:49] <hasan_> what about upstream ?
[11:49] <jhutchins> nicolai_: Some people would say they're the same thing, some would say "cutting edge" means released.
[11:49] <hasan_> upstream opera upstream beryl ?
[11:49] <jhutchins> beryl is a good example of bleeding edge.
[11:50] <nicolai_> hasan_: upstream is what the main developers work on
[11:50] <jhutchins> bleeding edge also implies that just because something is newer doesn't mean it's better.
[11:50] <nicolai_> nicolai_: downstream is what distributions et. al work with
[11:51] <intelikey> nicolai_ in the sense of software,  in the sense of networking   upstream is what's between you and the world
[11:51] <ubuntu_linux> but under Kubuntu?
[11:51] <nicolai_> intelikey: I figured it was software in this case
[11:52] <Daisuke_Ido> but what under kubuntu?
[11:52] <Dragnslcr> Don't suppose anyone here has worked with kvm? When I try to start a virtual machine, it hangs at "Loading..." and uses 100% of one of my CPU cores
[11:52] <Assid> hrmm
[11:52] <Assid> anyone ever managed to get dreamweaver 8 working ?
[11:52] <blekos> hi, had anybody luck with synce
[11:52] <blekos> ?
[11:52] <jhutchins> Dragnslcr: For how long?
[11:52] <Daisuke_Ido> Assid: you will have more luck using vi
[11:53] <Assid> nah.. i need the gui
[11:53] <Daisuke_Ido> then you might like nvu
[11:53] <jhutchins> Assid: Or quanta.
[11:53] <Dragnslcr> jhutchins- until I click the X to close the window. I've left it running for at least a few minutes a couple times
[11:53] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh, i haven't checked out quanta yet
[11:54] <jhutchins> Dragnslcr: I would make sure there was no disk activity for at least 2-3 minutes.
[11:54] <intelikey> nicolai_ in this context yes   but i mentioned it for hasan' sake, with whom i think i spoke some hours ago about an upstream issue in the networking sense.    so i said what i said
[11:54] <nicolai_> Assid: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=3482
[11:54] <nicolai_> intelikey: fair enough :)
[11:55] <kateak> hola?
[11:55] <Assid> yeay!!
[11:55] <Assid> i can now consider moving my ass over
[11:55] <Dragnslcr> jhutchins- know offhand if KSysGuard has a monitor for disk access?
[11:56] <jhutchins> Dragnslcr: Seems like it did last I looked.  I know gkrellm does.
[11:56] <JohnFlux> Dragnslcr: i think so
[11:56] <Assid> im trying to convince myself to bite the bullet and move over from win
[11:56] <kateak> hay alguien que hable castellano?
[11:56] <Dragnslcr> It has Disk Throughput, but I have no idea which of the 20 items under that would be what I'm looking for
[11:57] <nicolai_> Assid: I would test Wine for myself first to avoid backlash. But glad to see it might solve your issues.
[11:57] <Assid> dont have a linux box running atm
[11:57] <Assid> not as a desktop atleast
[11:58] <nicolai_> Assid: I started my journey with a dual-boot..
[11:59] <intelikey> is it possable to switch tty's inside of ssh ?
[11:59] <Assid> nicolai_: ive used it before.. i actually got servers running linux.. i had a dedicated "desktop" type box .. but never booted into it
[12:00] <Assid> im just tired of using the same damn thing.. so either i convince myself to move.. or stick to xp for the rest of my life or the next version of windows
[12:00] <Assid> that does make sense.
[12:00] <knowledge25k> hello  can somebody hell me with my beryl
[12:00] <Daisuke_Ido> i attempted a dual boot, and...  never booted into linux
[12:00] <Assid> Daisuke_Ido:  yeah.. exactly..
[12:01] <Assid> thats why i either just dive in.. or forget abt it
[12:01] <Daisuke_Ido> the way i finally switched was to tell myself: you're going to do this, it will be just fine, if a little different.
[12:01] <Daisuke_Ido> that was 9 months ago
[12:01] <nicolai_> Assid: Then i wont stand in the way of your migration :)
[12:01] <Daisuke_Ido> and i haven't had windows near this machine since :D
[12:01] <Assid> hehe
[12:01] <Assid> well
[12:01] <Assid> my lappy would still need windows
[12:01] <Daisuke_Ido> Assid: oh, mine does too
[12:01] <Daisuke_Ido> i have to for school
[12:02] <Assid> err.. how well does gimp handle photoshop files.. any clues ?
[12:02] <Assid> would be nice if i could manage to get my desktop to look like this guys tho : http://www.ubuntux.org/files/images/dsktop1.png
[12:02] <zombielion> when youmake a dvd what should the video rate be in kb/s and is there a way to compress the video if its to big to go on the dvd after it is converted
[12:02] <cje_> nicolai_, how embarrassing, it was a typo on the dapper repository!  See, we use tools that depend on other tools, and actually Feisty broke our tools, simply because Ubuntu moves faster than lots of other projects.  So we downgraded to Edgy, and everything worked.  But we actually had to reach back to dapper for transcode.
[12:02] <Assid> or this one : http://www.ubuntux.org/looking-dapper
[12:02] <Dragnslcr> jhutchins- so it's been over 5 minutes and it's still at "Loading..."
[12:03] <jhutchins> Dragnslcr: I think you can safely call that a hang though.
[12:03] <Assid> Daisuke_Ido: you ever done any video encoding on linux ?
[12:03] <jhutchins> Dragnslcr: I just wanted you to be sure, because there was a program I had that I thought was hanging, and it was just that it took two or three minutes to load and configure itself the first time.
[12:03] <Dragnslcr> jhutchins- yeah, that's what I figured. I posted something on the Ubuntu forum last night, but the thread has already been buried
[12:03] <zombielion> also what does interlacing and deinterlacing mean
[12:04] <jhutchins> zombielion: That's really not a kubuntu question.
[12:04] <nicolai_> cje_: But all works now?
[12:04] <jhutchins> zombielion: I think you need to do some reading on transcoding and DVD building.
[12:04] <Daisuke_Ido> Assid: a little
[12:05] <Assid> any difference in speed of encoding ? for a divx file?
[12:05] <cje_> nicolai_,  yeah, so far, i have been able to download all of the packages I need for our process, so thanks tons for sticking in there with me!!!
[12:05] <Daisuke_Ido> perhaps a little faster in linux
[12:05] <Assid> faster ?!
[12:05] <Daisuke_Ido> but no appreciable difference, no
[12:06] <Assid> i thougth divxnetworks is tuning the codec now .. like 20-30% quicker than before
[12:06] <Daisuke_Ido> and both of those desktops are quite easy
[12:06] <Daisuke_Ido> Assid: i have no idea
[12:06] <intelikey> what ?    can anything actualy be faster in linux than in M$ ???    come on!
[12:06] <Daisuke_Ido> i just use mencoder :D
[12:06] <Daisuke_Ido> intelikey: you know what's faster on linux than windows?  games.
[12:06] <Daisuke_Ido> games in wine vs. games running in native windows :D
[12:07] <jhutchins> zombielion: http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page#Learn
[12:07] <Assid> Daisuke_Ido: games faster through wine ?
[12:07] <nicolai_> cje_: No problem. It's summer vacation, so I have no quarrels with being on irc to near midnight. ;)
[12:07] <Daisuke_Ido> (not all, mind you, but some are.  it's true!)
[12:07] <Assid> how the hell.. its emulated
[12:07] <Daisuke_Ido> NO
[12:07] <nicolai_> cje_: Glad to be of help
[12:07] <Daisuke_Ido> no it is not
[12:07] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido not the ones i've tried,
[12:07] <cje_> nicolai_, near midnight?  You must be in Europe, no?
[12:07] <Daisuke_Ido> not emulated at all
[12:07] <Assid> doesnt crossover have something for games..
[12:07] <cje_> It is 15:07 in the afternoon here in San Francisco, California.
[12:08] <nicolai_> cje_: Yep. Copenhagen, Denmark
[12:08] <Daisuke_Ido> wine is an implementation of the win32 API, not a windows emulator.  a very big difference where speed is concerned
[12:08] <cje_> Awesome!
[12:08] <intelikey> WINE is Wine Is Not an Emulator
[12:08] <jhutchins> Assid: That's just the thing, wine isn't an emulator, it's an api interface.
[12:08] <Assid> hrmm.. my bad
[12:08] <jhutchins> Assid: cedega
[12:08] <Daisuke_Ido> cedega's nice
[12:08] <Assid> yeah
[12:08] <Assid> so that plays games no issues ?
[12:08] <cje_> nicolai_,  We have a lot of footage of interviews with European leaders, like the Mayor of Munich.
[12:08] <Daisuke_Ido> i wouldn't say that
[12:08] <Daisuke_Ido> some games there are no issues and they run great
[12:09] <jhutchins> Assid: There are issues.  It plays some games, has more support than wine.
[12:09] <Daisuke_Ido> some games run extremely slow
[12:09] <Daisuke_Ido> and some won't work at all
[12:09] <intelikey> windows doesn't "play games, no issues"   heh
[12:09] <Daisuke_Ido> intelikey: tell that to minesweeper!
[12:09] <Assid> hahaha
[12:10] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido i said games
[12:10] <vzduch> o0
[12:10] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[12:10] <Daisuke_Ido> solitaire then
[12:10] <intelikey> :)
[12:10] <vzduch> I have a modified mIRC running in CrossOver.. (not in this channel though)
[12:10] <Daisuke_Ido> two more weeks
[12:10] <intelikey> this console plays solitare
[12:10] <Daisuke_Ido> vzduch: for scripting purposes, i assume?
[12:10] <nicolai_> cje_: when do you expect the documentary to be done?
[12:10] <Assid> i gotta figure this out
[12:11] <nicolai_> cje_: You've peaked my curiosity :P
[12:11] <Sayers> How do I get Karmba to save my widgets?
[12:11] <vzduch> Daisuke_Ido: in this case, the scriptkiddie is my father.. I have only started it for demonstration purposes
[12:11] <vzduch> ;)
[12:11] <cje_> nicolai_, it is a community-based project, and we need help and funding, so whenever we are able to get it done, it will be done.  All of the footage will be free on line.
[12:11] <Daisuke_Ido> i see
[12:11] <angasule> !restricted
[12:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:12] <Daisuke_Ido> vzduch: trying to convert dad?
[12:12] <vzduch> he had an old mIRC version running as the basis.. I updated that and sent him back
[12:12] <vzduch> Daisuke_Ido: no, I've given up on that ;)
[12:12] <angasule> !wmv8
[12:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wmv8 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:12] <cje_> nicolai_, you can see 51 hours of footage here http://archive.org/details/digitaltippingpoint
[12:12] <angasule> !wmv9
[12:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wmv9 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:12] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm working on converting my mother
[12:12] <Assid> err.. whats a rating of gold in wine mean?
[12:12] <Daisuke_Ido> she copies more dvds than i do
[12:12] <Daisuke_Ido> Assid: nearly zero problems
[12:13] <Assid> nice
[12:13] <Daisuke_Ido> platinum is zero problems
[12:13] <cje_> nicolai_, Europe and South America are going to be very important for our film, because we think that the Microsoft monopoly will be broken first in those two continents.
[12:13] <Daisuke_Ido> silver requires a little tweaking
[12:13] <Daisuke_Ido> and so on
[12:13] <Assid> hrmm
[12:13] <Assid> just curious.. when you install.. you install it using wine right ? you dont need to install on a windows machine. and then copy stuff over?
[12:14] <vzduch> cje_: not as long as everybody & your neighbour are copying Windoze in South America ;)
[12:14] <nicolai_> cje_: I'll be sure to look at it. :)
[12:14] <nicolai_> cje_: What about Asia?
[12:14] <cje_> vzduch, true, illegal copying of Windoze is Microsoft's biggest ally.
[12:14] <vzduch> intelikey: you gotta be kidding.. in the US the laws are so that it's partly illegal to use free software..
[12:14] <jhutchins> slashdot just had an article on how Microsoft managed to get the majority share in China.
[12:14] <intelikey> vzduch you gota be kidding
[12:15] <Sayers> cje_: ?
[12:15] <vzduch> intelikey: at least that's what it looks like from Europe
[12:15] <cje_> nicolai_, no, Microsoft is strong in Asia for exactly the reason that jhutchins pointed out.