[01:30] <mpt> Goooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!
[05:45] <Amaranth> Can ppa packages not depend on other things in my ppa?
[05:45] <Amaranth> for building, i mean
[08:51] <carlos> morning
[08:53] <mdke> morning carlos 
[08:54] <mdke> thanks for your emails yesterday. So I uploaded lots of tarballs with pot/po files inside - should I expect a notification email for each one? I haven't received any yet
[08:54] <carlos> mdke: yes, you will get it
[08:54] <carlos> though, the queue is quite busy with OO.org imports
[08:54] <carlos> so it will take a while
[08:55] <mdke> carlos: ah, I see. I'm keen to find out whether I've broken anything
[08:55] <carlos> we are already on something to speed it  a bit so big uploads like that doesn't delay the queue so much...
[08:55] <mdke> carlos: like, 2 days, or more?
[08:56] <carlos> mdke: well... could be even more, I need to check how's going, but we already have more than 10 days of delay for file uploads :-(
[08:56] <carlos> once oo.org finish it would be faster
[08:56] <carlos> we got 3 different versions of oo.org (security upload)
[08:56] <carlos> and we were not ready for such huge load
[08:56] <mdke> blimey
[08:56] <mdke> ok, thanks.
[08:57] <mdke> is danilo around these days?
[08:58] <carlos> he should, yes
[08:58] <mdke> cool
[08:58] <mdke> I'll email him
[09:02] <carlos> mdke: ok
[09:02] <carlos> mdke: btw, did you have any problem with kubuntu-docs?
[09:03] <mdke> carlos: I haven't touched them for a while
[09:03] <carlos> isn't it being updated too?
[09:04] <mdke> not at the moment; if I find the time then I will.
[09:04] <mdke> maybe someone else will help
[09:04] <carlos> ok
[09:04] <mdke> what sort of problems?
[09:04] <Hobbsee> mdke: i'd ask nixternal about them
[09:04] <mdke> yes
[09:07] <carlos> mdke: permission problems like you had with ubuntu-docs
[09:08] <mdke> carlos: ah, ok. I didn't try; if I do I'll let you know
[09:08] <carlos> ok
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #129187 in soyuz "process-upload.py ignores "upload directory" command line argument" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129187
[11:17] <imbrandon> morning fellas
[11:18] <imbrandon> can someone explain why i would get a "Failed to upload" from the dogfood PPA ( https://dogfood.launchpad.net/~imbrandon/+archive/+build/348672 )
[11:19] <imbrandon> its my first attempt at using the ppa , so i might have done something offbase
[11:21] <imbrandon> also is there plans to be able to target non-devlopment releases but still supported like feisty ? does the debian/changelog version entry just need to reflect this for it to work, like the normal archive ?
[11:22] <Fujitsu> imbrandon: Not sure about the failed to upload; that's something going very wrong in Soyuz's innards... but the latter should be achievable just by setting it in the changelog.
[11:23] <imbrandon> so it should handle 2 uploads of the same version for diffrent releases ?
[11:23] <Fujitsu> Hm, maybe not.
[11:23] <imbrandon> heh
[11:23] <imbrandon> trying to see how this can be usefull for backport testing too
[11:23] <imbrandon> and other things
[11:23] <Fujitsu> IIRC something explodes if there's a naming conflict... Was the failed to upload likely to conflict with a previous upload?
[11:24] <imbrandon> no it was my first and only upload thus far
[11:24] <imbrandon> just activated it a bit ago
[11:24] <Fujitsu> Argh, lolcode!?
[11:24] <imbrandon> bleh, its a good test package :)
[11:25] <Fujitsu> Heh.
[11:25] <imbrandon> from the log it seemed to have built fine , etc , something else bombed
[11:26] <Fujitsu> It's nothing to do with the build. It's some internal Soyuz failure which only deities can explain.
[11:30] <jamesh> imbrandon: I am not sure if any of the Soyuz guys are around at the moment.  perhaps you could file a bug report?
[11:30] <imbrandon> hrm it might be because i had section: unknown instead of section: universe/devel in the control
[11:31] <jamesh> imbrandon: even if it is user error, it sounds like the error reporting is inadequate
[11:31] <imbrandon> :)
[11:40] <Fujitsu> imbrandon: A dodgy section would cause the source publishing to fail too, so I doubt that's the issue.
[11:41] <bigjools> imbrandon: do you need any help filing a bug report for that?
[11:42] <imbrandon> bigjools, no but i just wanted to confirm it was indeed a bug first
[11:42] <imbrandon> bbiab
[11:42] <bigjools> imbrandon: it's worth filing a bug, even if it isn't one, because it will help improve Soyuz, as you clearly have some problem
[11:43] <Fujitsu> AFAIK, no build is ever meant to hit Failed to Upload, so it is a bu.
[11:43] <Fujitsu> *bug
[11:51] <Ng> imbrandon: fwiw, my uploads to PPA over the weekend got Failed To Upload too, even though the logs suggest the built fine. I'm gonna poke cprov about it later :)
[11:53] <imbrandon> k
[12:04] <Amaranth> Can ppa packages not depend on other things in my ppa when building?
[12:05] <bigjools> I don't see why not
[12:06] <imbrandon> Amaranth, yes they use the ppa they are building in and the official archive both
[12:06] <Amaranth> all my stuff is in depwait for things that are in my ppa
[12:07] <imbrandon> Amaranth, well seems like a bug then, as the faq states otherwise
[12:14] <Amaranth> *headdesk*
[12:14] <Fujitsu> Amaranth: You need to specify the section if it's != main
[12:15] <Amaranth> it's main
[12:15] <Amaranth> but the version goes from 1:0.5.1 to 0.5.1
[02:34] <ore4444> Hello. I want to be able to review and modify package translations in hebrew. How can I become a moderator? Do I need to prove myself worthy? :)
[02:40] <ore4444> Anybody here? :-S
[02:41] <mwhudson> yes, but i can't answer your question
[02:41] <mwhudson> i think the answer is "yes" though
[02:42] <ore4444> I've checked the site over and over again. I can't see a single page where they answer the question. Not in the translation pages and not in the FAQ.
[02:43] <ore4444> Am I not looking in the right place?
[02:45] <mwhudson> oh, ffs, the https://translations.launchpad.net/translations/+about page mentions a dead mailing list
[02:46] <ore4444> Not dead, just closed...
[02:46] <mwhudson> well, yes
[02:46] <mwhudson> it's a stale link
[02:48] <ore4444> Found it :)
[02:48] <ore4444> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-he/+join
[02:48] <ore4444> Thank you
[03:01] <seb128> hi
[03:01] <seb128> could anybody rename https://launchpad.net/glib glib2.0?
[03:11] <Markon> hi all
[03:12] <ore4444> Hi there
[03:38] <j^> where can i change the bug url of a product?
[03:39] <j^> https://launchpad.net/network-manager/+edit only has homepage
[03:39] <j^> wanted to add upstream bugtracker: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/browse.cgi?product=NetworkManager
[03:40] <ubotu> New bug: #129233 in rosetta "https://translations.launchpad.net/translations/+about refers to rosetta-users" [High,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129233
[03:48] <Markon> Hi all, I would register a new project, that consists of a book, on launchpad. Is it possible ? 
[03:49] <carlos> Markon: is it using a free/open license?
[03:49] <carlos> that's the only requirement we have to register projects
[03:51] <Markon> yes, it's a free license
[03:52] <Markon> so it's possible, very good. I thought launchpad was useful only for software. ok.
[03:52] <Markon> Thank you :)
[04:03] <Hobbsee> heya matsubara 
[04:03] <matsubara> hello Hobbsee!
[04:04] <Hobbsee> :)
[05:05] <dpm> Hi, since the daily language packs were moved to http://ppa.dogfood.launchpad.net/ubuntu-langpack/ubuntu/ some days ago, they do not seem to work anymore. I get a notification on update-notifier that there are new versions available, but upon installation, they keep being shown as new in update-notifier. Someone else from our translation team has experienced the same behaviour.
[05:06] <dpm> I know they are probably not officially supported, but I thought I'd ask in any case: are the language packs still maintaned? Have they been moved again somewhere else?
[05:06] <dpm> s/language packs/daily language packs/
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #129248 in blueprint "[request]  enable BBCode or similar in launchpad" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129248
[07:08] <superm1> Hey guys.  I was wondering about PPA, will there be support in it to do non dev releases?  So that say a testing of a feisty backports or edgy-backports will be feasible?
[07:46] <Rinchen> bigjools, ^^
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #129295 in rosetta "PO import fails with ForbiddenAttribute instead of failing with AssertionError" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129295
[10:10] <mdke> are there any documents about hosting bzr branches on launchpad? a quick search of h.l.n hasn't revealed anything
[10:11] <LarstiQ> mdke: https://code.launchpad.net/+about ?
[10:11] <LarstiQ> although it's not the page I was looking for 
[10:11] <superm1> mdke, what kind of information are you looking for?
[10:12] <mdke> superm1: how to create branches, how to implement different workflows with them, etc
[10:12] <mdke> LarstiQ: doesn't seem to be very comprehensive, but I'll read through
[10:12] <mdke> I've found something on ddaa's blog actually that might help
[10:13] <LarstiQ> yeah, that one and the one by jamesh are good (google juice wise also)
[10:13] <ddaa> there's also help.launchpad.net
[10:13] <ddaa> the stuff on my blog is outdated
[10:13] <superm1> the basic workflow for creating a branch is a matter of 'bzr init' and 'bzr push sftp://USER@bazaar.launchpad.net/~USER/project/NAME'
[10:14] <superm1> to at least get started
[10:14] <ddaa> the sabdfl wrote some good doc on help.launchpad.net
[10:14] <LarstiQ> my, this is all new
[10:14] <LarstiQ> superm1: I believe mdke is aware of that ;)
[10:14] <ddaa> superm1: except change sftp with bzr+ssh if you have a recent bzr
[10:14] <superm1> ddaa, is that faster?
[10:14] <ddaa> yes
[10:14] <ddaa> much
[10:15] <mdke> ddaa: I searched help.l.n without finding anything. can you give me a good pointer?
[10:15] <superm1> how recent of a bzr are you saying? as in gutsy bzr or feisty?
[10:15] <LarstiQ> mdke: https://help.launchpad.net/FeatureHighlights/BazaarHosting
[10:15] <ddaa> https://help.launchpad.net/FeatureHighlights/EasyBranching
[10:16] <mdke> omg. The search function is totally broken :)
[10:16] <mdke> thanks both
[10:16] <ddaa> https://help.launchpad.net/CreatingAHostedBranch?highlight=%28bazaar.launchpad.net%29
[10:16] <ddaa> yes, it is
[10:16] <ddaa> you click on "FindPage" for the search that actually works
[10:16] <mdke> it doesn't use the actual title search, but rather the 404 page
[10:17] <mdke> who does the theme for that wiki?
[10:17] <ddaa> no idea
[10:17] <ddaa> I hope that's a contractor...
[10:17] <mdke> i'll poke newz
[10:19] <mdke> thanks for your help ddaa / LarstiQ / superm1 
[10:19] <ddaa> superm1: you need at least 0.17 for bzr+ssh, I think
[10:19] <superm1> ah so gutsy+
[10:19] <ddaa> yes
[10:19] <superm1> well i might have to backport that to feisty locally if its that much faster
[10:19] <ddaa> there's an apt source on bazaar-vcs.org
[10:19] <ddaa> no wheel reinventing, please :)
[10:21] <LarstiQ> and if all else fails, just run bzr from source
[10:21] <superm1> thx ddaa, i'll grab it later
[10:21] <LarstiQ> although perhaps I shouldn't be encouraging that ;P
[10:21] <ddaa> and if really all else fail, start a python interpreter, import bzrlib, and ask for directions on #bzr (just joking!)
[10:21] <LarstiQ> hahahaha
[10:22] <ddaa> oh
[10:22] <ddaa> you can
[10:22] <ddaa> just do sftp manually and read the python code to find what you need to do :P
[10:23] <ddaa> real hardcore ones will do sftp with telnet
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[10:26] <LarstiQ> sure enough, it _can_ be topped
[10:35] <oojah> Change that "z" for an "a" and it could get interesting.
[10:47] <Rinchen> mdke, yes it's newz. mrevell is the contact for that wiki thought.  ddaa, fyi
[10:47] <mdke> Rinchen: thanks. I've talked to him already
[10:48] <mdke> no doubt he will sort it soon
[12:19] <anachronik> heyheyhey