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| mhb | manchicken: hi, were you the one who asked about the kde4 meta package or is my head confused again? | 12:33 |
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| manchicken | It was me IIRC. | 12:33 |
| mhb | manchicken: is it made yet? | 12:34 |
| manchicken | Dunno. | 12:34 |
| manchicken | I don't think so. I could check I suppose. | 12:34 |
| manchicken | Nope. At least not in the repos yet. | 12:35 |
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| mhb | manchicken: we really should create one with a nice name, like "kubuntu-kde4" or something. kdelibs5 is really a confusing name for a package. | 12:37 |
| manchicken | Yes. | 12:38 |
| mhb | manchicken: thanks for the info. I'll ask Hobbsee when she arrives. | 12:38 |
| manchicken | kubuntu4-desktop :) | 12:38 |
| Riddell | copy kde-meta | 12:38 |
| manchicken | Riddell: Burning the midnight oil I see. | 12:39 |
| Riddell | oh, I'll go back to Harry Potter momentarily :) | 12:40 |
| mhb | manchicken: I'm +1 more than him, by the way :o) | 12:40 |
| manchicken | Nice. | 12:41 |
| manchicken | You crazy nightowl Europeans. | 12:42 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: a couple of questions http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6246 | 12:42 |
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| ryanakca | kmilo / kmix stays between 0% and 11% when using the keyboard volume keys... any idea why? | 04:17 |
| === ryanakca would also like to note, that despite 'Mute on' appearing in kmilo, I'm still getting sound :) | ||
| === ryanakca looks into it | ||
| ryanakca | Ok. The mute on/off problem comes from not being able to mute PCM. So, if you select PCM as the master channel in kmix, mute won't work. | 04:20 |
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| nixternal | ryanakca: that is the same for me | 05:14 |
| nixternal | Intel chipset | 05:14 |
| nixternal | how do you select the mast channel stuff? | 05:14 |
| ryanakca | right click the kmix icon in the systray, and Select Master Channel | 05:14 |
| nixternal | hrmm | 05:15 |
| nixternal | rock on! | 05:15 |
| ryanakca | :) | 05:15 |
| nixternal | now if only my vol +/- worked with PCM | 05:15 |
| nixternal | well, that would be nothing more than remapping the keys | 05:16 |
| === ryanakca thinks his chipset is nvidia | ||
| ryanakca | my +/- doesn't work with any channel | 05:17 |
| nixternal | my +/- moves volume up and down | 05:18 |
| nixternal | it worked with Feisty perfectly, but not with Gutsy | 05:18 |
| ryanakca | same | 05:19 |
| ryanakca | Opening kmixer, and hitting the buttons (with volume values as absolute), nothing is moving. | 05:20 |
| nixternal | what file do you change for multimedia buttons? | 05:20 |
| nixternal | argh, my mute button stays on now all the time | 05:21 |
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| ryanakca | Ouch. Umm. | 05:21 |
| ryanakca | No clue :) | 05:21 |
| nixternal | ya, when I switch it to PCM it doesn't light up | 05:21 |
| ryanakca | .kde/share/config/kmixrc | 05:22 |
| ryanakca | It can't I don't think, just a sec, I'll get a screenshot of what mine looks like | 05:23 |
| nixternal | I filed a bug about it, but there has been no response to it at all | 05:25 |
| nixternal | is there an ubuntu-audio or something channel? | 05:26 |
| === nixternal checks lp | ||
| nixternal | bug 120515 | 05:27 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 120515 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Master volume control doesn't work, PCM only" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120515 | 05:27 |
| ryanakca | nixternal: http://blog.ryanak.ca/kmix.png http://blog.ryanak.ca/kmix1.png ... those two screenies show that PCM can't be muted, but that still doesn't say why vol +/- doesn't work on it... or on any other channel for that matter | 05:28 |
| === ryanakca looks | ||
| nixternal | holy smokes...the sound team has 313 bugs to work through...man that sucks | 05:29 |
| ryanakca | nixternal: best bet is probably either the ubuntu studio chan, or crimsun, (I think he is/was the audio maintainer for Ubuntu) methinks. | 05:29 |
| nixternal | ya, he doesn't do it anymore..god bless his little heart :) | 05:29 |
| nixternal | he got the Intel stuff fixed in Feisty though | 05:29 |
| nixternal | well changing my PCM to the master channel, I can mute it..but it does goofy things with my button | 05:30 |
| ryanakca | hmm. I don't think I have a master volume control... at least not in kmix or alsamixer/alsamixergui | 05:32 |
| ryanakca | anyways, time for bed, see yah :) | 05:35 |
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| nixternal | bug 127944 | 06:23 |
| nixternal | hrmm | 06:23 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 127944 in openoffice.org2 "[gutsy] Open Office applications don't start " [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127944 | 06:23 |
| nixternal | there you go...good boy! | 06:24 |
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| _StefanS_ | morning | 09:53 |
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| _StefanS_ | Hobbsee: hey, you there? | 09:53 |
| Hobbsee | _StefanS_: greetings | 09:53 |
| Hobbsee | _StefanS_: i havent tried recompiling anything | 09:53 |
| _StefanS_ | Hobbsee: oh, good. Is there a chance you could test it soon then ? | 09:54 |
| _StefanS_ | Hobbsee: me and Tonio_ is going to get that fade thing done, so .. | 09:54 |
| Hobbsee | sometime, probably :) | 09:56 |
| _StefanS_ | Hobbsee: apart from krusader, was there any other applications that failed compilation? | 09:58 |
| Hobbsee | amarok | 09:59 |
| _StefanS_ | uhm ok, I will test it then | 10:02 |
| Hobbsee | it was probably anything that was recompiled | 10:04 |
| Hobbsee | stdin: yay, kubuntu haters! | 10:05 |
| stdin | hehe, yeah | 10:06 |
| stdin | I wounder if they realist they don't *have* to use it?? | 10:06 |
| Hobbsee | stdin: of course, i'm not sure if that is the case, or if it's just an incompetent user | 10:08 |
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| Tonio_ | hi | 10:13 |
| Tonio_ | allee: ping ? | 10:13 |
| Tonio_ | someone wants to test the new kdebluetooth ? | 10:15 |
| Tonio_ | I've finished the packages yesterday | 10:15 |
| Tonio_ | still a bit buggy, but already better than the current one imho | 10:15 |
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| stdin | Hobbsee: ahh, he's a debian dev. that explains the attitude :p | 10:19 |
| Hobbsee | stdin: hah, right | 10:19 |
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| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I can test those bluetooth thingys | 11:13 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: whats the repo url? | 11:14 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: can never remember :) | 11:15 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: oh found it. | 11:15 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: oki ;) | 11:17 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: anything particular you want me to test? | 11:18 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: and do you have a gpg key also? | 11:19 |
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| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: they seems to work.. I will test using my mobile and the bluetooth mouse i've got | 11:24 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: can you send a file on your mobile ? | 11:25 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: download works for me, but uploads creates a 32KB file everytime | 11:25 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: seems to be the only issue I have with it | 11:25 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: yes, so I should test an upload to the phone? | 11:25 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: yes please | 11:25 |
| _StefanS_ | ok | 11:25 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: I can connect my mouse and download files | 11:26 |
| _StefanS_ | gotta logout | 11:27 |
| metellius | does anyone know if (when using apt's source mechanism) there is a way to compile just kwin and generating the corresponding deb without having to compile the whole kdebase tree? | 11:28 |
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| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: jeeez.. .when is HIDD going to be enabled by default.. | 11:32 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: gotta reboot. | 11:32 |
| Tonio_ | oki ;) | 11:33 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: hidd is not required to connect to a mouse in fact | 11:33 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: dbus replaces hidd | 11:33 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: uhm, thats great. But the mouse dont work now with HIDD disabled. | 11:33 |
| Tonio_ | metellius: you cannot do that | 11:33 |
| Tonio_ | ah ? | 11:34 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: so it needs to be enabled ? | 11:34 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: we should change that, especially since pitti already told me he wouldn't have any problem with hidd enabled by default and security | 11:34 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: i've never had it worked without. How would you make the initial connection to a bluetooth mouse? | 11:34 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: we'll discuss this toonight during the meeting, I added en entry | 11:34 |
| _StefanS_ | ok | 11:34 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: initial connection ? with kdebluetooth afaik | 11:35 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: should work without hidd if my understanding is correct | 11:35 |
| Tonio_ | dbus does the job then | 11:35 |
| _StefanS_ | well it works now | 11:35 |
| _StefanS_ | I needed to do a hidd --search in konsole | 11:35 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: yes but how did you perform the connection ? wsith kdebluetooth or sing command line ? | 11:35 |
| _StefanS_ | command line. | 11:35 |
| _StefanS_ | kbluetooth didn't show any devices. | 11:36 |
| Tonio_ | oki so you didn't use the modern way | 11:36 |
| Tonio_ | ah...... so maybe it just doesn't work for you..... | 11:36 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: but in theory, with dbus, no hidd is required afaik | 11:36 |
| metellius | Tonio_: I'm sure I can, it's probably just a question of how much pain i'm getting myself into :) | 11:36 |
| metellius | Tonio_: but according to you, it's not a supported thing to do? | 11:37 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: hidd_enabled is not needed i can see. But the initial connection dont work without me making a hidd --search | 11:37 |
| Tonio_ | metellius: generating a kwin deb without recompiling kdebase is just impossible, as the package splitting is done after everything has been compiled | 11:37 |
| Tonio_ | metellius: you have to build everything | 11:37 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: hum that's not good | 11:37 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: how about a cellphone upload ? | 11:37 |
| metellius | Tonio_: ah, I see. how about first building kdebase, then modifying kwin and not having to compile kdebase all over for every little change? | 11:38 |
| Tonio_ | metellius: you can compile kwin and just kwin, but not generate deb files | 11:38 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: cellphone upload is 32kb as well. | 11:38 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: smaller files work though. | 11:39 |
| Tonio_ | metellius: best thing is to use ccache in pbuilder, which uses a cache to avoid rebuilding everything everytime | 11:39 |
| Tonio_ | metellius: you'll earn about 40% of compile time, but not more | 11:39 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: yep | 11:39 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: I have no doubt that'll be fixed before gutsy is released | 11:39 |
| metellius | does dpkg-buildpackage really not use any caching at all when rebuilding? | 11:39 |
| Tonio_ | metellius: nope it doesn't | 11:40 |
| Tonio_ | metellius: except using ccache, for example in pbuilder | 11:40 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: does the blue "bluetooth" icon light up when you use your bt mouse? | 11:40 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: mine is gray even when the mouse works. Seems like it bypassed the kdebluetooth altogether | 11:40 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: I don't have my mouse here to tell you, I'll test toonight during the meeting | 11:41 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: I wonder if using hidd doesn't make the device unvisible with dbus | 11:42 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: or something like that | 11:43 |
| Riddell | metellius: to start compiling again without cleaning the package do debuild -nc | 11:44 |
| Riddell | where debuild is dpkg-buildpackage with some extra checks (and easier to type) | 11:44 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: maybe... where should I query for the mouse | 11:45 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: cant really see it anywhere | 11:46 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: hehe, now the bluetooth icon flashes everytime I move my mouse, but the pointer isn't :) | 11:49 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: also hidp doesn't seem to loaded automatically upon boot. | 11:51 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: which is required for the kernel to understand mouse+keyboard devices AFAIK | 11:51 |
| metellius | Riddell: ah, thank you. will try that | 11:51 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: allee did some tests reguarding to bluetooth and mice | 11:51 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: he might know how to make tests with dbus | 11:52 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: what if you don't clean ? | 11:52 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: will a second debuild only build the difference ? | 11:53 |
| Tonio_ | I see what it does but I don't see how that'll help in building just a kwin binary deb file | 11:53 |
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| metellius | otherwise, I guess the intended solution is to compile kwin manually while modifying, and then finally build the deb in the end | 11:54 |
| Riddell | it'll only build what isn't already built | 11:55 |
| Riddell | if you only want to compile kwin, don't compile it as a .deb | 11:56 |
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| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: rebooting with HIDD_ENABLED=1 it works without doing anything, and the bluetooth icon is blue while mouse is connected. | 12:02 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: can you see the device in the "input devices" kdebluetooth thing ? | 12:08 |
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| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: nope, all empty. | 12:09 |
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| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: oki so it just doesn't work | 12:09 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: right. | 12:09 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I mean outside kdebluetooth is seems to work fine, but as I understand it, that method is deprecated in favour of dbus. | 12:10 |
| _StefanS_ | is/it | 12:10 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: hum, I have regressions compared to how it worked before..... | 12:11 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: I can't see any devices here, while it worked before | 12:11 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: oh ok, want me to go back to current gutsy, and test again ? | 12:11 |
| fdoving | Riddell: hi. did you get my dolphin message from yesterday? | 12:12 |
| Riddell | fdoving: you'd best repeat it | 12:13 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: current gutsy might work I guess, but causes lots of issues since we have to patch bluez to make it to work | 12:13 |
| Tonio_ | the idea with the new kdebluetooth is to use the now standard dbus interface | 12:14 |
| fdoving | Riddell: i have a modified dolphin package ready for upload. Removed the isoservice.desktop servicemenu file from the installed package, as the syntax of the file is incorrect and if i fix it it doesn't do anything. http://ubuntu.lnix.net/archive/gutsy/ | 12:14 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: I could see my device 2 weeks ago, so I suspect a big regression on that point | 12:14 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: it should have worked better | 12:14 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: uhm yes | 12:14 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: new revision sync, I'll rebuild packages in a moment | 12:15 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: ok, I will test as soon you're ready | 12:15 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: | 12:15 |
| Tonio_ | C kbluetooth/trayicon.cpp | 12:15 |
| Tonio_ | U kinputwizard/inputwizard.cpp | 12:15 |
| Tonio_ | U kinputwizard/inputwizard.h | 12:15 |
| Tonio_ | U kinputwizard/inputdialog_ext.ui | 12:15 |
| Tonio_ | U kbluelock/main.cpp | 12:15 |
| Tonio_ | U kbluelock/kbluelock.cpp | 12:15 |
| Tonio_ | here is the difference | 12:15 |
| _StefanS_ | err.. thats not much :) | 12:16 |
| _StefanS_ | it will probably not make any difference | 12:16 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: probably not | 12:17 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: we could always try to trace down that empty listview... maybe its just a enumeration of available devices that doesn't make it into that list | 12:18 |
| _StefanS_ | a/an | 12:18 |
| _StefanS_ | damn keyboard :) | 12:18 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: sure | 12:19 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: should be a big big issue | 12:19 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: damn, gotta fix that fglrx first | 12:20 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: lol | 12:20 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: i know, its hard to fix fglrx :) | 12:20 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: damn ATi drivers | 12:20 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: hopefully they'll go opensource soon | 12:20 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: yeah.. when pigs start flying. | 12:21 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: I heard about that, but I beleive it when I see ti | 12:21 |
| Riddell | fdoving: uploaded, thanks | 12:21 |
| fdoving | Riddell: great, thank you :) | 12:21 |
| Riddell | fdoving: do you know if anything can be done about the information given for icon in media:/ in dolphin? | 12:22 |
| fdoving | Riddell: like some device-specific icon? or what do you have in mind? | 12:23 |
| Riddell | fdoving: at the moment it just has a blank icon and no information, it should have the same icon in the media view and some information (like disk used level) | 12:26 |
| fdoving | ah.. the information sidebar-thing. | 12:27 |
| Riddell | yep | 12:28 |
| fdoving | i don't know, but i can have a quick look. | 12:28 |
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| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I'm looking at the discoverDevices() for libkbluetooth now, hope I'll find something | 01:06 |
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| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: great | 01:35 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: works for me concerning the devices like phones, I can see them | 01:35 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: only the input devices box stays empty | 01:36 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: ok, Is there a generic way to turn debug on for stuff in debuild? | 01:40 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: instead of changing each makefile, I mean | 01:40 |
| fdoving | #DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS += nostrip | 01:42 |
| fdoving | #DEB_STRIP_EXCLUDE = mailody | 01:42 |
| fdoving | replace mailody with the app name. i guess. | 01:42 |
| _StefanS_ | ok thx | 01:42 |
| fdoving | binary name i mean. | 01:43 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: talking about the build debug or the app debug ? | 01:45 |
| Tonio_ | sorry but I don't get you there | 01:45 |
| fdoving | app debug. | 01:45 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: isn't deb_configure_extra_flags what you need ? | 01:46 |
| fdoving | i think DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS works too. | 01:46 |
| Tonio_ | oki | 01:46 |
| fdoving | atleast that's what i've been using on mailody. | 01:46 |
| Tonio_ | cdbs_kde_enable_debug | 01:47 |
| Tonio_ | should also do the trick readong to kde.mk | 01:47 |
| fdoving | ok, there are probably more ways to do it too :) | 01:47 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: ahhhhhhh that's where the nostrip is uses indeee | 01:48 |
| Tonio_ | indeed | 01:48 |
| Tonio_ | ifneq (,$(findstring nostrip,$(DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS))) | 01:48 |
| Tonio_ | 49 cdbs_kde_enable_final = | 01:48 |
| Tonio_ | 50 cdbs_kde_enable_debug = --enable-debug=yes | 01:48 |
| Tonio_ | 51 else | 01:48 |
| Tonio_ | 52 cdbs_kde_enable_debug = --disable-debug | 01:48 |
| Tonio_ | 53 endif | 01:48 |
| Tonio_ | you're right | 01:48 |
| Tonio_ | but configure_extra_flags might also work | 01:48 |
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| fdoving | uhm.. kdevelop crashed my X. | 01:49 |
| fdoving | Riddell: we need to do some hacking to sort that d3lphin information sidebar-issue. The problem is much related to the media:/device beeing recognized as a Folder (??), not media/hdd_mounted etc. not sure why. | 01:53 |
| fdoving | the service menus does recognize the correct mime-type.. so something is fishy. | 01:54 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: good, I'll use that cdbs | 01:55 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: then use what fdoving said | 01:56 |
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| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: it seems to compile with debug info now. | 02:00 |
| Tonio_ | oki ;) | 02:02 |
| _StefanS_ | brb | 02:02 |
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| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I keep getting this error: kinputwizard: libkbluetooth: getStringList(): Method "ListDevices" with signature "" on interface "org.bluez.input.Manager" doesn't exist | 02:06 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: and ends up with a null list | 02:06 |
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| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: you there? | 03:18 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I found some clues... | 03:21 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: /etc/bluetooth/input.service is missing, and thus the dbus lookup fails for the ActivateService("input"). | 03:21 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: also fc8 rpm's mentions /etc/bluetooth/serial.service as well, but I'm not sure how that relates to bluetooth (phone modem?) | 03:22 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: interesting, can be due to the package splitting | 03:22 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: /usr/lib/bluetooth/bluetoothd-service-input doesnt exist either. | 03:22 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: http://fr2.rpmfind.net//linux/RPM/fedora/devel/i386/bluez-utils-3.12-1.fc8.i386.html | 03:22 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: with the new releases, it is possible that I miss some of them | 03:22 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I think so. | 03:23 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: how to perform a dh_install --fix-missing within pbuilder ? | 03:23 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I got some debug output for you aswell, but maybe we (you?) should just wait until these files are in place. | 03:23 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: it is a bit boring building with debuild before testing in pbuilder..... | 03:23 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: well keep that in mind, I'll be there toonight for testing, before and after the meeting | 03:24 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: uhm, I gotta figure out the local time for that meeting | 03:24 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: 21 UTC | 03:25 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: argh, thats at 23.00 local time. I will not make it, gotta get my sleep | 03:25 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: can we look at some stuff before that ? | 03:25 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: don't think so as I'll spend 2 hours in the train before that.... | 03:26 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: --fix-missing? what's that? | 03:26 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: I'll be at home on contrib day al tomorrow, come on then :) | 03:27 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: tomorrow it is | 03:27 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: inability to do --list-missing is my main reason why I don't use pbuilder much | 03:27 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: s/fix/list :) | 03:27 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: can't we simply add that to kde.mk ? | 03:28 |
| Riddell | yes probably, but then if there are missing files you can't add them (without re-doing the whole compile) | 03:28 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: and that, you can do combining debuild -cn and list-missing, am I right ? | 03:29 |
| Riddell | dh | 03:30 |
| Riddell | tsk | 03:30 |
| Riddell | you can run dh_install --list-missing manually until you've fixed all the problems | 03:30 |
| Riddell | then debuild -nc | 03:30 |
| Tonio_ | interesting ;) | 03:30 |
| Riddell | then you gamble on doing it in pbuilder to see if it's really perfect and just uploading without a final check | 03:30 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yes, that's what causing me problems | 03:31 |
| Riddell | dh_install --sourcedir=debian/tmp --list-missing depending on how it has been packaged | 03:31 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: you could get a ppa and upload it there for the final check | 03:31 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: not for initial packaging, as splitting is easy, but to manage an already splitted package, aka kdebase, for example, pbuilder is a pain.... | 03:31 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll test that way | 03:32 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I can send you the debug output as well if you need it? | 03:33 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: please do | 03:33 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: there you go. Hope you can make sense of it :) | 03:35 |
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| Tonio_ | hehe | 03:36 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: anyways I think its just that input.service and the library accompaniyng it | 03:37 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I will install fc8 just to test it | 03:37 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: ofcourse the problems appear to be in bluez-utils .. | 03:53 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: yep, of course | 03:55 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: the original one on bluez.org has the input.service in there I can see.. | 03:58 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: so must some packaging | 03:58 |
| _StefanS_ | must be | 03:58 |
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| manchicken | Morning everybody. | 04:21 |
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| Riddell | anyone noticed this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kopete/+bug/128537 | 04:47 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 128537 in kopete "kopete grabs all memory/CPU when triggered by unrelated file I/O" [Undecided,New] | 04:47 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 05:11 |
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| ryanakca | hey bddebian | 05:11 |
| bddebian | Hi ryanakca | 05:11 |
| manchicken | Nooooooo! Tabs! | 05:13 |
| manchicken | That's much better :) | 05:13 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: nope, i cant reproduce that | 05:20 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: in gutsy? | 05:20 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: yes | 05:20 |
| Riddell | thanks | 05:20 |
| Hobbsee | no problem | 05:21 |
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| nixternal | mornin' | 05:29 |
| ScottK | Howdy. | 05:30 |
| bddebian | Heya nixternal | 05:34 |
| nixternal | boo! | 05:34 |
| nixternal | howdy | 05:34 |
| nixternal | where have you been hiding? | 05:34 |
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| ryanakca | Can someone help me test what I'm guessing is a bug in I-don't-know-what? | 06:42 |
| ryanakca | sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup , and fill in your setup info (keyboard, encoding, etc), and then when you get to Terminus/VGA/Fixed/TerminusBold/etc, pick a random one, and then a random font size (smaller the better). Then logout, log back in, go to X, and back to the VT. Hit enter a couple times, does your prompt go off the bottom of the screen? | 06:44 |
| Tonio_ | anyone fancy testing kdebluetooth dbus version ? | 06:46 |
| Tonio_ | I just got bluez fixed to work with it :) | 06:46 |
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| stdin | hmm, why does kubuntu-grub-splashimages change /boot/grub/menu.lst to 600 ? | 07:13 |
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| manchicken | Damnit, KDE accessibility turned on the number pad mouse keys again. | 07:49 |
| manchicken | ALT-F12 doesn't seem to be disabling it anymore either. | 07:49 |
| Riddell | I don't have any number pad mouse keys | 07:49 |
| manchicken | It just randomly turns on. | 07:50 |
| manchicken | And it doesn't seem to respect the keys. | 07:51 |
| ryanakca | nixternal: hmm. After today's upgrade, now my vol +/-/mute keys work, except I don't see kmilo. | 08:06 |
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| alesan | what image is that displayed at the login? | 09:43 |
| alesan | while logging in I mean | 09:43 |
| alesan | with all the icons that flash and get colored | 09:43 |
| Riddell | it's ksplash-moodin-theme | 09:43 |
| alesan | thanks | 09:44 |
| Riddell | as with most things the kubuntu branding is in kubuntu-default-settings | 09:44 |
| alesan | so many packages :) | 09:44 |
| Riddell | also be careful of the cache it keeps in ~/.kde/share/apps/ksplash if changing anything | 09:44 |
| alesan | I am building a new version of the livecd | 09:44 |
| alesan | so I don't think I should mind that :) | 09:44 |
| Riddell | alesan: what are you changing about the live cd? | 09:45 |
| alesan | I will install some more packages and drivers | 09:46 |
| alesan | for a product of my company (it's a kind of small X-server for multiuser systems) | 09:46 |
| alesan | I'd like to add a tiny logo of the company near the ubuntu one | 09:47 |
| Riddell | product that you're selling? | 09:47 |
| alesan | what do you mean? | 09:47 |
| alesan | the device of the ubuntu cd? | 09:47 |
| alesan | kubuntu cd | 09:48 |
| alesan | s/of/or | 09:48 |
| alesan | the device of course we are selling it :) that's our company only product more or less | 09:48 |
| alesan | we sell to schools mainly in the developing countries | 09:49 |
| alesan | would you like more info? | 09:50 |
| Riddell | sure, sounds exciting | 09:50 |
| alesan | www.ncomputing.com | 09:50 |
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| alesan | we have two main products | 09:50 |
| Riddell | if you're selling it with some kubuntu branding still in place you need to get a trademark licence, which is available at no cost | 09:51 |
| alesan | one is a PCI board that can give you 3 stations (you can put two such boards for 6 stations) | 09:51 |
| alesan | other is a LAN product that can be connected anyware in a network (also over WAN) | 09:51 |
| alesan | Riddell, we already have contacts for marketing and branding | 09:52 |
| Riddell | with canonical? | 09:52 |
| alesan | I am developing this for internal use (for now) | 09:52 |
| alesan | Riddell, yes, it seems our CEO has a direct contact in canonical or similar | 09:53 |
| Riddell | groovy | 09:53 |
| alesan | ~dict groovy | 09:54 |
| alesan | no dict bot here :) | 09:54 |
| Riddell | "excellent" :) | 09:54 |
| Riddell | but more 1970s | 09:54 |
| alesan | "tubular" is also a meaning of that word. ?!? | 09:54 |
| alesan | is Kubuntu still "under" canonical right? or not? | 09:55 |
| Riddell | depends what you mean, it's all free software | 09:55 |
| alesan | yes but the trademark? | 09:55 |
| Riddell | that's Canonical's | 09:55 |
| Riddell | but as I say it's licenced at no cost in almost all cases | 09:55 |
| alesan | I like KDE much more and I can't stand gnome :) that's way I'm pushing Kubuntu | 09:56 |
| Riddell | :) | 09:56 |
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| alesan | my god how can people work with gnome's dialog boxes for "save as" | 10:00 |
| alesan | it's most inefficient | 10:00 |
| Tonio_ | yop | 10:00 |
| Tonio_ | hum, meeting is tomorrow, stupid of me.... | 10:01 |
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| DaSkreech | Kdissert is no more? | 10:30 |
| sebastienb | hi | 10:30 |
| DaSkreech | Yo | 10:32 |
| DaSkreech | ryanakca: Still in the packaging groove? | 10:32 |
| mhb | ryanakca: hey, how's your artist ambition? | 10:52 |
| mhb | ryanakca: did you make a nicer kdm login screen? | 10:52 |
| mhb | ryanakca: I'm really looking forward to it, it's always a terrifying experience when switching from the lovely upslash to kdm :o) | 10:53 |
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| DaSkreech | Ha ha | 10:54 |
| DaSkreech | How terrifying | 10:54 |
| DaSkreech | Never mind Semantik is a KDE4 App | 10:56 |
| DaSkreech | Is there somewhere with a list of kio URLs in Konqueror | 11:18 |
| fdoving | DaSkreech: kinfocenter - | 11:24 |
| fdoving | > protocols | 11:24 |
| nixternal | ryanakca: still don't work for me | 11:36 |
| DaSkreech | fdoving: Thanks | 11:37 |
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| ryanakca | DaSkreech: yep, anything in mind? | 12:06 |
| ryanakca | mhb: Umm. kwwii said he was working on a new Kubuntu icon, so I dunno if he's finished it yet. If he has, I wouldn't mind tinkering with it a bit and sending him a few proposals :) | 12:07 |
| ryanakca | nixternal: with PCM, or another channel? | 12:07 |
| nixternal | either | 12:07 |
| ryanakca | Hmm. odd. both work here, kmilo is all that's missing. Seems to be a rather finniky issue... | 12:08 |
| kwwii | ryanakca: I haven't done any work on it yet - feel free to do so if you wish | 12:08 |
| kwwii | mhb: wassup with the website? | 12:08 |
| ryanakca | kwwii: okies, Ummm... do you have a particular color palette/scheme/etc that I should use? or take colors from the background/etc? | 12:10 |
| ryanakca | s/take/just take/g | 12:10 |
| kwwii | ryanakca: feel free to change things as you wish | 12:10 |
| kwwii | I've thought about using the black version from the usplash as wlel | 12:11 |
| kwwii | well | 12:11 |
| nixternal | argh this stupid bug is killing me | 12:11 |
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| nixternal | hehe | 12:13 |
| Tm_T | there's weapon, kill that bug | 12:13 |
| nixternal | not that kind of bug :) | 12:13 |
| nixternal | our kind of bug | 12:13 |
| Tm_T | you mean, aaa | 12:14 |
| === Tm_T hands over an axe | ||
| Tm_T | use that, kill that crook | 12:14 |
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