[12:31] <Vuen> ls
[12:31] <Vuen> argh wrong window
[01:00] <corevette> what would this mean: warning This file includes at least one deprecated or antiquated header. Please consider using one of the 32 headers found in section 17.4.1.2 of the C++ standard. Examples include substituting the <X> header for the <X.h> header for C++ includes, or <iostream> instead of the deprecated header <iostream.h>. To disable this warning use -Wno-deprecated.
[01:09] <Vuen> hey all, how do i disable a user from being shown in the login list?
[01:09] <Vuen> nevermind, got it
[01:11] <Vuen> wait, no, i haven't got it. the "hidden users" list in login manager settings doesn't seem to work
[01:11] <Vuen> i suppose i should mention i'm on kubuntu
[01:17] <Vuen> anyone know where Login Manager in System Settings saves its settings?
[01:46] <DanaG> Yay:  ACPI: Allow custom DSDT tables to be loaded from initramfs
[01:47] <DanaG> (changelog from .22-9 kernel.  I don't need the feature, but I remember seeing a bug from people who do need it.)
[01:51] <DanaG> Heh, I read telepathy-sofiasip as telepathy-sonofasip.
[02:26] <pwnguin> hey, what's that multi display tool called?
[02:30] <StarScream> hey guys, running one of the daily builds for gutsy ppc. I'm a getting a  /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off error on boot. Is this common and is there  a known work around ?
[02:31] <StarScream> i know ppc isn't supported but launchpad seems indicate this is not ppc specific
[02:31] <StarScream> however it doesn't seem to list a fix in the threads that i found.
[03:00] <holzmodem> hi, every time i load a webpage with integrated flash with konqueror, the cpu load goes to 100% and konqueror hangs. it is the nspluginviewer. how can i solve it?
[03:08] <OSUKid7> holzmodem: I think I'm having a similar issue... I'm running ubuntu gutsy x86_64, and whenever I interact with a flash object in Firefox, firefox freezes
[03:09] <DanaG> WTF?  In this game, alien-arena, my view immediately moves to pointing straight up, and won't go back down.
[03:10] <Amaranth> nspluginviewer is the problem
[03:10] <Amaranth> The fix is 'Why are you using 64-bit?'
[03:10] <holzmodem> firefox works great with flash, it konqueror
[03:10] <DanaG> Oh, and sdl is absolutely devouring my CPU.
[03:12] <OSUKid7> lol, firefox definitely doesn't work great with flash here :\
[03:13] <OSUKid7> Amaranth: so, if nspluginviewer is the problem, any solution minus ditching 64-bit?
[03:13] <Amaranth> Try gnash? :)
[03:14] <DanaG> Argh.
[03:14] <crdlb> :)
[03:17] <DanaG> Oh, I see.... ALLLLLL mouse movements are being interpreted as moving up.
[03:17] <DanaG> That's dumb.
[03:17] <DanaG> Er, I mean, all vertical ones.
[03:17] <DanaG> Horizontal still works.
[03:19] <DanaG> Okay, so up is up+up, down is up, left is left+up, right is right+up.
[03:23] <DanaG> For example, I can't turn in place unless I also press down at the same time.
[03:23] <flaccid> i would like to upgrade to gutsy
[03:24] <flaccid> just update sources.list and dist-upgrade
[03:24] <flaccid> or is there some guide
[03:37] <DanaG> It's kinda' hard to play a game when you keep moving forward uncontrollably.
[03:38] <tehk> Is compiz working for anyone?
[03:38] <tehk> I get a segfault when I start it up with 'compiz --replace'
[03:57] <piao> hi, is any body use xubuntu gutsy?
[04:00] <piao> i found if you click show Desktop button and any task on taskbar again and again, then the desktop forzen
[04:03] <piao> any body here.
[04:04] <pschulz01> Greetings
[04:05] <poningru> yarr
[04:06] <pschulz01> I am attempting to run Gutsy up in VMware ESX server (64bit). Has anyone reported problems with this? I'm getting the following error - "Your CPU does not support long mode. Use a 32bit distribution"
[04:06] <pschulz01> I didn;t have any problem with the 64bit Feisty.
[04:29] <teratoma> does compiz work in gutsy yet ?
[05:04] <User748> Hi is this channel for support?
[06:39] <marek`> have anyone successfully used gps bluetooth hardware
[06:39] <marek`> with gutsy
[06:48] <DanaG> WTF?  All my animations have reset!
[06:48] <DanaG> AAaaargh!
[06:48] <DanaG> If I didn't know better, I'd think I was in Windows.
[06:49] <flaccid> animations reset in windows?
[06:49] <crdlb> no you're testing an alpha :)
[06:49] <flaccid> what animations
[06:49] <DanaG> In compiz-fusion.
[06:49] <DanaG> I used to have certain animations set, and now it's all been reset.
[06:49] <flaccid> its beta software
[06:49] <DanaG> And now I can't figure out how to set it how it was, because names have been replaced with numbers.
[06:50] <DanaG> I'd expect things to be broken (as in crashing or having missing symbols), but I wasn't expecting the _upstream_ compiz-fusion to break things so horribly.
[06:50] <crdlb> upstream compiz-fusion is alpha too
[06:50] <flaccid> id expect anything with non-prod software
[06:51] <DanaG> But still, you'd think the creators would notice that "10" and "11" and "2" are NOT very good NAMES for animations.
[06:51] <RAOF> And the guys behind fusion hardly have a reputation for not breaking things.
[06:51] <crdlb> that's called a bug
[06:51] <DanaG> At the very least, they should give a TABLE with mappings.
[06:51] <RAOF> Well, that's what you get for using a git snapshot.
[06:52] <DanaG> Is there anywhere to dig up the old deb?
[06:54] <flaccid> you are using your bug is replicated by the devs
[06:54] <flaccid> using=assuming
[06:55] <RAOF> Oh, yes it is.
[06:56] <DanaG> I wouldn't mind the resetting as much if I could figure out what it is now set to.... but the numbers are just cryptic.
[06:56] <DanaG> Is there anywhere I can find a list mapping numbers to types?
[06:56] <crdlb> it's a *bug*
[07:01] <DanaG> Eeh, I'll just try all the numbers.
[07:01] <DanaG> And test with buddy list in pidgin.
[07:04] <voidmage> hmm
[07:05] <voidmage> i'm starting to get worried about my hard drives.
[07:05] <voidmage> ktorrent keeps reporting finished torrents getting corrupted data long after they're done
[07:05] <voidmage> (i use xfs on my /home partition)
[07:05] <StarScream> voidmage: i am sure they are worried about you too =)
[07:05] <StarScream> voidmage: dmesg or  tail -f /var/log/messages
[07:05] <StarScream> see if its spitting I/O errors
[07:06] <StarScream> if its broken, you might get lucky
[07:06] <StarScream> otherwise i'd suggest backing stuff up soon :)
[07:07] <voidmage> Jul 27 23:28:59 phoenix kernel: [   49.164617]  00:08: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
[07:07] <voidmage> that's all i see
[07:07] <voidmage> i'm thinking it's a weird thing in ktorrent
[07:08] <voidmage> yeah, nothing showing up in dmesg in the last few minutes except for marks
[07:09] <DanaG> Try a different app -- such as a Gnome torrent thingy, or Azureus, or even Torrent in Wine.
[07:22] <DanaG> Okay, now I have it set the way I like; however, Firefox makes its tooltips appear as type "Menu".
[07:23] <crdlb> DanaG, workarounds plugin enabled?
[07:23] <DanaG> Lemme check.
[07:24] <DanaG> I can't find the plugin, actually.  It's not visible in ccsm.
[07:24] <crdlb> hmm must not be in your snapshot yet
[07:25] <DanaG> I'm now using the official Gutsy version, since 3v1n0 versions broke things.
[07:29] <voidmage> i've noticed something weird in kde, don't think it's compiz related
[07:29] <voidmage> but firefox likes to steal focus and pop itself to the front
[07:32] <stdin> I've seen that too, it's strange actually because it doesn't gain focus (ie: the window isn't selected) but it pops up to the front
[07:32] <stdin> happens with kwin and compiz
[07:32] <voidmage> ah
[07:33] <Tm_T> stdin: have you checked your kwin settings?
[07:33] <Tm_T> stdin: I had some mysterious Firefox related settings, "ignore focus stealing prevention"
[07:34] <stdin> Tm_T: let me have a look, I haven't touched the settings so I'll have a look
[07:36] <Tm_T> stdin: kcontrol is your friend btw, that systemsettings is, well, weird a bit
[07:36] <stdin> Tm_T: it has focus stealing prevention set to "Force" "None"
[07:37] <voidmage> what about in compiz though?
[07:37] <Tm_T> stdin: exactly, disavle that setting?
[07:37] <Tm_T> b
[07:37] <stdin> actually, it seems ok in compiz now, I hadn't used it in a while
[07:38] <voidmage> disable that?
[07:39] <stdin> when it's disabled, the window is still risen, but now it doesn't get put on top of others
[07:41] <stdin> it also works if I change the "None" to anything else
[07:57] <crackerbox> hey guys
[07:57] <crackerbox> MrSno... are you here/alive?
[07:59] <crackerbox> in a script, what does <&3 refer to?
[07:59] <stdin> takes input from file descriptor number 3
[08:00] <crackerbox> printf "uname -r:\n" >&3
[08:00] <crackerbox> and that?
[08:00] <crackerbox> that is the context
[08:01] <stdin> prints "iname -r:" and a new line to file descriptor number 3
[08:02] <crackerbox> is file descriptor number 3 specified somewhere?
[08:02] <RAOF> I think fd 3 is stderr, isn't it?
[08:02] <RAOF> Or maybe stdin.
[08:02] <crdlb> 0 is in, 1 is out, and 2 is err
[08:02] <crdlb> iirc
[08:03] <stdin> fd0 is stdin fd1 is stdout and fd2 is stderr
[08:03] <RAOF> Yeah, not thinknig right.
[08:03] <DanaG> Oh yay, aptitude is segfaulting.
[08:03] <crackerbox> can someone summerize what fd3 does?
[08:04] <stdin> nope, it could be anything, depends what is assigned to it
[08:04] <crackerbox> oh.
[08:04] <crackerbox> i think what im trying to do is not doable
[08:04] <DanaG> Why are there never any changelogs for g++ and gcc and cpp and gij?
[08:05] <stdin> what are you trying to do? :p
[08:05] <crackerbox> use bash to set a variable equal to the name of the video card
[08:05] <crackerbox>   LC_ALL=C lspci | grep 'VGA compatible controller:' >&3
[08:06] <DanaG> Oh, I see..... I had another Aptitude open at the "Press enter to continue".
[08:06] <crdlb> use ``
[08:06] <crackerbox>   LC_ALL=C lspci -n | grep 'Class 0300:' >&3
[08:06] <crdlb> or $()
[08:06] <RAOF> $() is preferred; you can nest them :)
[08:06] <crdlb> VIDCARD = $(lspci|grep 'VGA')
[08:06] <crdlb> yeah :P
[08:06] <stdin> crackerbox: just redirect to /dev/null
[08:07] <stdin> in that case >&3 seems to do nothing much
[08:08] <DanaG> I'd actually think the behavior would be undefined -- you might end up overwriting some other file opened by the process.
[08:08] <DanaG> At least, I'd imagine such.
[08:08] <stdin> it would probably just fail
[08:08] <crackerbox> arg
[08:09] <Xemanth> aargh
[08:09] <stdin> stdin@goten:~$ echo 1 >&3
[08:09] <stdin> bash: 3: Bad file descriptor
[08:09] <Xemanth> i get same error
[08:09] <voidmage> oh wait
[08:09] <voidmage> i figured out why the corrupt data thing was coming up
[08:10] <voidmage> i retagged it and ktorrent doesn't recognize it anymore
[08:10] <voidmage> :P
[08:13] <crackerbox> ok here is what i get... when i type:
[08:13] <crackerbox> lspci | grep 'VGA compatible controller:'
[08:14] <crackerbox> i get: 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 6100 nForce 405 (rev a2)
[08:15] <crackerbox> isnt there a way to use something like " | sed -e 's/Serial Number: //' " to shorten the output?
[08:18] <stdin> what do you want the output to be?
[08:18] <crackerbox> GeForce 6100
[08:19] <crdlb> err that would be quite difficult
[08:19] <crackerbox> before i used this:
[08:19] <crackerbox> SERIAL0=$(cat /proc/scsi/usb-storage/* | grep Serial | sed -e 's/Serial Number: //')
[08:19] <RAOF> Sed does regex, right :)
[08:19] <crackerbox> so tell me the serial number of my usb stick
[08:19] <crackerbox> so = to
[08:21] <crackerbox> what im trying to do would probably not be smiled upon
[08:22] <crackerbox> basically, the part in casper_bottom that configures x with "casper-reconfigure /root xserver-xorg" is blocking the automatic usage of nvidia or ati cards
[08:23] <DanaG> Woah, I just crashed compiz by holding ctrl-alt-s.
[08:23] <stdin> try "|awk '{print $7" "$8}' "
[08:23] <stdin> crackerbox: ^
[08:24] <crackerbox> so if i take that 20xconfig out of casper_bottom (which is in the initrd.gz of the gusty live CD) and use a pre existing xorg.conf file that specifically has the correct video card listed, and my video drivers are already installed into the liveCD's file system and kernel... the live CD works with full nvidia 3d support from boot....
[08:25] <crackerbox> only problem is now i want to be able to expand it and allow it to use ati or detect intel GPUs if present
[08:25] <crackerbox> so the first step is detecting the video card, and then running the correct installation scripts
[08:26] <crackerbox> let me ask this...
[08:26] <crackerbox> isnt there a debconfig program that automatically sets up xorg.conf ??
[08:27] <crackerbox> and can that be used to detect the video card and update the config file without user interaction?
[08:27] <stdin> crackerbox: if you want to detect the make first, use "lspci |grep VGA|grep Nvidia" to detect an nvidia cards, changing it to ATI and Intel to detect the others, then you can get more specific after
[08:29] <DanaG> wtffff????? osssssssssomehooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwsloooooooowwwwwkeysss oooogotttttttte  nnnnnnnnnnbaabllllllleeeeeeeddddddd
[08:29] <DanaG> Do you want to activate Slow Keys?
[08:30] <crackerbox> what about "dpkg-reconfigure -fnoninteractive --no-reload "$package"
[08:30] <DanaG> yyyyyyyyyyyyooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu kkkkkknnnnnowww, iiiiiiiitttttttt rrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeelaaaaaaaaaaallllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyy         sssssssssohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhoooullllllddddddddnnnnnnnnnn'''''tttttttttt   eeeeeeennnnnnnnnbbbaaaaaaabbbbbblllleeeeee iiiiiiiiittttttttt  unless you tell it to activate it!
[08:30] <voidmage> weird, some emerald theme i used is gone
[08:31] <crackerbox> stdin... should there be some quotes in that line you posted?
[08:31] <DanaG> Try this: hold shift for a while, and watch as your keyboard seemingly breaks -- especially if you press escape.
[08:32] <stdin> crackerbox: just append everything inside the the quotes to the end, like: lspci | grep VGA | grep nVidia  (the case of nVidia matters unless you use "grep -i nvidia"
[08:32] <DanaG> wttttttttttffffffffff/////////////////////////////////////////?????????????????????
[08:35] <crackerbox> when i do: "lspci | grep VGA | grep -i ati" i will get into trouble because it wants to output "compatible" which has ati in it
[08:35] <crdlb> so don't use -i
[08:35] <stdin> crackerbox: the "ati" would be uppercase with ait cards
[08:35] <crackerbox> nice
[08:36] <stdin> crackerbox: or use -w with grep
[08:36] <stdin> crackerbox: like " lspci|grep VGA|grep -Ewo '(Intel|ATI|nVidia)' "
[08:36] <stdin> that should wither print "Intel", "ATI" or "nVidia"
[08:36] <stdin> dependind on the card
[08:37] <crackerbox> now thats good stuff
[08:41] <crackerbox> now the harder part is extracting the actual cards model number
[08:43] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/41427
[08:43] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 41427 in Ubuntu ""slow keys" can turn on surreptitiously & cause confusion." [Medium,Incomplete] 
[08:44] <crackerbox> i think i will have to use grep and sed together
[08:46] <stdin> crackerbox: yeah, this works: " lspci | grep VGA|awk -F: '{print $3}'|sed 's/ [a-Z] * Corporation // ; s/(.*)//g' " at least for nvidia and intel
[08:49] <crackerbox> is there something like a grep / awk guide for dummies out there?
[08:49] <crackerbox> cause i would much rather learn to fish than be handed fish, you know
[08:49] <crackerbox> although that is some nice fish
[08:49] <crackerbox> thanks, btw
[08:50] <stdin> the advanced bash scripting guide is nice: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[08:51] <stdin> also: man awk , man sed , man grep. and #bash :p
[08:51] <stdin> it's quite a big subject and experimentation is the best way to learn it
[08:55] <crackerbox> thanks
[08:58] <crackerbox> do you know about "dpkg-reconfigure -fnoninteractive --no-reload xserver-xorg" ?
[08:59] <crackerbox> unfortuently, that just gives me "Identifier	"Generic Video Card""
[08:59] <crackerbox> in xorg.conf
[09:00] <crackerbox> i wonder what i need to do to have it automatically detect?
[09:00] <stdin> I don't know much about that
[09:03] <crackerbox> is there a way to add lines of text to a deb config (at a specific place) from bash?
[09:04] <crackerbox> in xorg.conf under the section: Section "Device" ... i would need to add the line: "Driver		"nvidia""
[09:05] <crackerbox> i seem to recall something from casper_bottom... hold on
[09:05] <crackerbox> chroot /root debconf-communicate -fnoninteractive casper > /dev/null <<EOF
[09:05] <crackerbox> set xserver-xorg/autodetect_keyboard true
[09:07] <crackerbox> FSET xserver-xorg/autodetect_video_card seen true
[09:07] <crackerbox> that might be the ticket right there
[09:08] <crackerbox> that is taken from this blog: http://worka.blogspot.com/2006/02/xorg-auto-configuration-in.html#links
[09:16] <databuddy> gah
[09:16] <databuddy> what is it on the install cd's that autoboots>?
[09:16] <Hobbsee> live?  alternate?
[09:19] <databuddy> oh i think this one is live
[09:19] <databuddy> see
[09:19] <databuddy> i got my hdd's on the cable on the mobo
[09:19] <databuddy> and my opticals on the extension card - pci controller
[09:19] <databuddy> problem is my bios doesnt see drives on the card
[09:19] <databuddy> they can be used once booted but not till then.
[09:19] <databuddy> now i managed to install grub in my thumbdrive - so thats good
[09:19] <databuddy> and i can swap them eventually
[09:20] <databuddy> but im not enterprizing enough atm - and i was kinda wondering how i could use my thumbdrive to boot the cd instead
[09:20] <databuddy> neh?
[09:20] <databuddy> [i wanna do an install] 
[09:20] <databuddy> is it the isolinux in the isolinux folder?
[09:21] <databuddy> or can i just do a chainload for the cdrom? and if so can i define by device?
[09:23] <databuddy> oo or in that install directory that sbm.bin - can i just move that to the grub dir somehow?
[09:25] <DanaG> One thing funny on SuSE's isolinux: try pressing F8 on the boot menu.
[09:26] <DanaG> Pixels start marching around to make the shape of the chameleon logo.
[09:29] <crackerbox> hmmm it looks like r-m (restricted manager) is doing some dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg magic
[09:30] <DanaG> I'd love to see that funny effect with the Ubuntu logo on the Ubuntu isolinux.
[09:43] <crackerbox> can i call a py script from rcS?
[09:48] <asisak> crackerbox: in theory why not?
[09:49] <asisak> however, if you don't want to run a "real" init script, /etc/rc.local is for user scripts
[09:49] <asisak> re johnnybuoy
[09:50] <johnnybuoy> re
[09:53] <crackerbox> im not running a user script
[09:54] <crackerbox> this script will automatically configure xserver-xorg in the liveCD to detect and enable restricted drivers automatically
[10:43] <databuddy> gah
[10:43] <databuddy> i cant get a cdrom to b0ot from grub ;_;
[10:47] <Xemanth> is that possible?
[10:47] <Xemanth> to boot cdrom from grub
[10:48] <Hobbsee> ...why would you *want* to boot the cdrom from grub?
[10:48] <Xemanth> is it possible to boot usb stick from grub? :P
[10:49] <Hobbsee> Xemanth: assuming all the required stuff was on the usb stick, yes.
[10:50] <Xemanth> hmm-m thats nice
[10:51] <Hobbsee> and assuming that you had the correct grub config
[10:55] <databuddy> Xemanth: yes
[10:55] <databuddy> its possible to do both
[10:55] <databuddy> but problem is grub doesnt see the device
[10:56] <databuddy> i think i need to boot to stick_dos >> cd
[10:56] <databuddy> b/c eventually im gonna swap em back
[10:56] <databuddy> i only have one pata slot on my mobo and it doesnt see the disks connected via ide controller card so atm its rather borked
[10:57] <databuddy> meh i just realized its like 4 hrs past my bedtime as im getting up in as many hrs +.5
[10:57] <databuddy> so im gonna go to bed.
[10:57] <databuddy> but this is my project this week.
[10:57] <databuddy> i may just have to put cdrom and hdd on same cable so i have SOME bootable cdrom and hdd at the same time.
[10:57] <databuddy> which sux royally.
[10:57] <databuddy> anyway ninie
[10:59] <Hobbsee> like when normally installing ubuntu
[11:03] <databuddy> it.wont.see.it.right.now.
[11:03] <databuddy> bios limitation
[11:03] <databuddy> whatever drives are connected to the card are invisible to the bios and thus to grub.
[11:03] <Hobbsee> ah right
[11:03] <Hobbsee> useful
[11:03] <databuddy> wish it were that easy - would have had it going a week ago :P
[11:04] <databuddy> also i need to figure if my hdd can support a third disk on the hdd rails - perhaps i could jsut get some sata drive and plug that into the mobo in the sata slot
[11:04] <databuddy> then i would have another drive that everything could see.
[11:05] <databuddy> but of course i actually have to find the cash to pay for that ~_~
[11:05] <databuddy> i wish there were a way to install to hdd without booting to the cd.
[11:05] <databuddy> once linux is booted it sees all the drives tho =/
[11:05] <databuddy> gah ninie again
[01:48] <IdleOne> this may be a dumb question but I just did a dist-upgrade and tcpdump was upgraded. what I dont understand is why was  http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main tcpdump 3.9.5-2ubuntu1 [303kB]  used ( feisty repo ) ?
[01:48] <IdleOne> yes I am running gutsy
[01:51] <Pici> IdleOne: Are you sure that all your /etc/apt/sources.list entries are gutsy?
[01:52] <IdleOne> Pici, I havent checked
[01:52] <IdleOne> lemme look
[01:52] <Pici> IdleOne: And apt-cache policy tcpdump  doesnt look weird
[01:53] <IdleOne> sources.list is all feist but I do have a deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Alpha i386 (20070718.1)] / gutsy main restricted in there also.
[01:54] <IdleOne> feisty*
[01:54] <IdleOne> guess I'll delete the cd deb and change all the fiesty to gutsy
[01:55] <Pici> Hm.. You upgraded with the CD and it left your sources.list at feisty level..
[01:55] <IdleOne> yup
[01:55] <IdleOne> seems so
[01:55] <IdleOne> apt-cache output
[01:55] <IdleOne> tcpdump:
[01:55] <IdleOne>   Installed: 3.9.5-2ubuntu1
[01:55] <IdleOne>   Candidate: 3.9.5-2ubuntu1
[01:55] <IdleOne>   Version table:
[01:55] <IdleOne>  *** 3.9.5-2ubuntu1 0
[01:55] <IdleOne>         500 http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main Packages
[01:55] <IdleOne>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[01:55] <IdleOne>      3.9.5-2 0
[01:55] <IdleOne>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Packages
[01:56] <IdleOne>         500 cdrom://Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Alpha i386 (20070718.1) gutsy/main Packages
[02:00] <IdleOne> wow changing the repos to gutsy made a big difference.
[02:00] <IdleOne> 321 packages upgraded, 44 newly installed, 9 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:00] <IdleOne> why did the upgrade from CD change sources.list ?
[02:00] <IdleOne> didnt
[02:02] <IdleOne> well upgrade in progress guess I'll go take a shower
[02:09] <Amaranth> IdleOne: file a bug
[02:30] <IdleOne> Amaranth, will doo
[02:30] <IdleOne> do*
[02:37] <IdleOne> Amaranth, bug 129410
[02:38] <ubotu> Bug 129410 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/129410 is private
[02:38] <Amaranth> IdleOne: I have no idea how you managed to file a bug I can't see
[02:38] <Amaranth> I'm in the qa team, these things are supposed to be open to me :)
[02:39] <IdleOne> Amaranth, beats me but it is set private for some reason
[02:39] <Amaranth> set it public
[02:39] <IdleOne> k
[02:40] <Hobbsee> oh waht?
[02:41] <Hobbsee> it's forbidden for me too?
[02:42] <Hobbsee> IdleOne: you filed that, for ubuntu?
[02:42] <IdleOne> yes
[02:42] <Hobbsee> er, under ubuntu?
[02:42] <IdleOne> how do I set it public now?
[02:43] <Hobbsee> see the actions panel
[02:44] <IdleOne> try now
[02:44] <coNP>  bug 129410
[02:44] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 129410 in Ubuntu "Gutsy upgrade from CD not upgrading sources.list" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129410
[02:44] <coNP> you did it, IdleOne  :)
[02:44] <IdleOne> I gotta run. have a good day folks
[02:44] <IdleOne> coNP, I surpirse myself sometimes :P
[02:44] <IdleOne> surprise also
[02:44] <coNP> bye, IdleOne
[02:47] <Hobbsee> IdleOne: you havent mentioned how you did the dist upgrade, hwo you added the cd to sources list, etc.....
[02:47] <Hobbsee> IdleOne: i suggest you fix those kind of things before i hit it with the incomplete stick
[02:47] <Hobbsee> and of course, learning how to spell feisty is always useful, too..
[02:48] <coNP> I am a bit afraid this is not a bug, but a feature.
[02:48] <coNP> Since I am not sure, dist-upgrade is supposed to edit sources.list
[02:48] <coNP> (In contrast to update-manager)
[02:49] <Amaranth> coNP: I thought he ran the autoupdate thing that pops up when you stick in an ubuntu cd
[02:49] <coNP> The only thing mentioned is that he used Synaptic.
[03:15] <mc44> anyone using xchat? the notification bubble for messages doesn't seem to work here
[03:17] <asisak> mc44: sure, you are right.
[03:18] <mc44> asisak: doesn't work for you either?
[03:18] <asisak> mc44: can you send me a private message to test this?
[03:19] <asisak> hmm, maybe a restart is needed
[03:20] <mc44> I get an error about notify-send, but libnotify looks to be installed
[03:20] <asisak> (1) libnotify-bin needs to be installed
[03:20] <asisak> (2) it does not seem to work :(
[03:21] <alex-weej> notification daemon is segfaulting
[03:21] <alex-weej> that's why it doesn't work
[03:21] <alex-weej> no notifications work
[03:21] <asisak> thanks, alex-weej
[03:22] <mc44> aha
[03:22] <asisak> I'll fix xchat, though
[03:22] <mc44> :)
[03:22] <asisak> to depend on libnotify-bin
[03:22] <alex-weej> i don't think you CAN fix xchat, it's doing eveyrthing right
[03:22] <asisak> alex-weej: it needs to depend on the binary
[03:22] <alex-weej> is the notification plugin not built against libnotify?
[03:23] <alex-weej> the "on-screen display" one
[03:23] <asisak> I guess it is not a plugin any more
[03:24] <asisak> mc44: do you want to file a bug? :)
[03:24] <mc44> asisak: I have to er.. run now :p
[03:24] <asisak> okay
[03:25] <praecox> hello guys
[03:25] <praecox> anyone here got an experience with Compiz Fusion on Kubuntu Gutsy (7.10)?
[04:45] <asisak> alex-weej: do you know why notification segfaults?
[04:46] <alex-weej> asisak: no, haven't had time to figure it out
[04:46] <asisak> okay
[04:47] <alex-weej> actually that's a lie
[04:47] <alex-weej> i had a quick look
[04:47] <alex-weej> the problem is in the ubuntu theme so
[04:48] <alex-weej> if you change your gconf /apps/notification-daemon/theme from "ubuntu" to "" it will start working again
[04:49] <asisak> alex-weej: you are righty right, thanks
[04:50] <asisak> btw it is fixed
[04:50] <alex-weej> really?
[04:50] <asisak> mvo did an update
[04:50] <alex-weej> is it in the archives yet?
[04:50] <asisak> only the source is uploaded now
[04:50] <alex-weej> ok
[04:50] <asisak> bug 127925
[04:51] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 127925 in notification-daemon "notification-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in move_notification()" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127925
[04:52] <alex-weej> ah
[04:52] <alex-weej> new tooltips
[04:52] <alex-weej> :@
[04:52] <alex-weej> too dark
[04:52] <alex-weej> and buggy as fuck!
[04:54] <asisak> *works for me*
[05:16] <malnilion> This might very well be a stupid question, but in Feisty if I had a /etc/modprobe.d/sound file with a parameter that let me change which model my sound driver used.  I now have no "sound" file and can't find an alternate location for the paramater.  Anybody have any idea where or how I might find it?
[05:21] <stdin> malnilion: you can probably just make the file
[05:21] <malnilion> Worth a shot, eh?
[05:21] <malnilion> Yeah, if I recall correctly it just had two lines
[05:22] <stdin> I think modprobe just "sources" all the files in /etc/modprobe.d anyway
[05:22] <stdin> the names are just for us humans :p
[05:23] <malnilion> Yeah, the sound file had "alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel" and "options snd-hda-intel model=blah" as I recall
[05:23] <malnilion> And I couldn't find those lines elsewhere.
[05:24] <Tomi-idle> easiest way to install mplayer-plugin on 32bit firefox under amd64?
[05:24] <malnilion> I would guess download the 32bit debs and install via dpkg...
[05:25] <malnilion> But that would be a guess.
[05:25] <Tomi-idle> didn't work :/
[05:26] <Tomi-idle> i'll go seach if the plugins are even i nthe right dir
[05:27] <gnomefreak> plugins for what?
[05:27] <malnilion> 64 bit...that'll be a fun upgrade in a few years ;)
[05:27] <manchicken> Tomi-idle: There's a walk-through in the wiki.
[05:28] <manchicken> Tomi-idle: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[05:28] <gnomefreak> why not just install nspluginwrapper
[05:29] <gnomefreak> its allows you to use 32 bit plugins with 64 bit system
[05:29] <manchicken> gnomefreak: Really?  You got a doc on how to set that up?
[05:29] <gnomefreak> also IMHO gnash 0.8.0 is better than flash
[05:29] <gnomefreak> !nspluginwrapper
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nspluginwrapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <gnomefreak> damn
[05:29] <manchicken> gnomefreak: Gnash (any version) causes X to bork with ATI cards.
[05:29] <gnomefreak> no docs yet but it should install them
[05:29] <Tomi-idle> are there speed difference with 32bit plugins on 64bit firefox?
[05:30] <Tomi-idle> or other annoying stuff? :)
[05:30] <gnomefreak> manchicken: is there a bug #? since im one of the contacts :(
[05:30] <manchicken> Tomi-idle: 32-bit plugins will be slower in a 64-bit system.
[05:30] <gnomefreak> Tomi-idle: not that i have heard of or seen
[05:30] <manchicken> gnomefreak: Don't know.  I haven't posted it, I think someone said it was known.
[05:30] <malnilion> Shouldn't be slower than 32-bit plugins on a 32-bit system, though, surely?
[05:31] <manchicken> Running 32 inside of 64 will be slower (though not likely noticeable) because of the compat layer.
[05:31] <gnomefreak> manchicken: i will talk to asac about it once i get -trunk to stop failing to build
[05:31] <manchicken> gnomefreak: Groovy.
[05:31] <gnomefreak> flash == slow as crap anyway
[05:31] <manchicken> gnomefreak: I'm willing to test debs if they have them.
[05:31] <gnomefreak> same with java UI's
[05:31] <manchicken> gnomefreak: Too true.
[05:32] <Tomi-idle> no mplayer plugin info on the wiki
[05:32] <Tomi-idle> flash is working ok though
[05:33] <gnomefreak> manchicken: i just pinged him about it so when he answers my other posts he will answer that one (more than likely with a eh)
[05:33] <gnomefreak> he only has 64bit pcs i know one with ati
[05:35] <manchicken> gnomefreak: If he wants more info, I'm specifically referring to a radeon xpress200m, running xorg drivers.
[05:36] <manchicken> no 3d accel
[05:36] <manchicken> (obviously)
[05:36] <gnomefreak> manchicken: join us in #ubuntu-mozillateam
[05:59] <Tomi-idle> thx for the info on nspluginwrapper
[05:59] <Tomi-idle> got everything working
[06:03] <HEP85> I found a bug: gdm user album stopped working since the upgrade to gutsy
[06:03] <asisak> what do you mean by "gdm user"?
[06:04] <HEP85> I mean some gdm skins allow you to select a username rather than typing it in. and this list disappeared
[06:04] <asisak> HEP85: this might be a theme that is not included any more.
[06:04] <asisak> There are themes with user face lists and ones without.
[06:05] <asisak> You should select (again) one with faces in gdmsetup before reporting a bug.
[06:05] <HEP85> I will try, but I think I already checked that
[06:05] <HEP85> now I selected "Human List"
[06:06] <HEP85> brb
[06:06] <HEP85> empty list
[06:07] <HEP85> any ideas? or is this a known issue?
[06:57] <Nergar> hello
[06:58] <Nergar> i can't find the restricted drivers manager in tribe 3
[07:00] <stdin> restricted-manager ?
[07:01] <Nergar> yes
[07:01] <Nergar> no restricted-manager in System>Preferences
[07:02] <Nergar> also no restricted-manager command
[07:02] <stdin> I don't know then, I use kde :)
[07:35] <PriceChild> wooo rt2500 driver is back in gutsy :)
[07:35] <PriceChild> and working nicely with network manager
[07:57] <aliguori_> after an update this morning, all the fonts are larger than they should be.  It was like this with an initial install of tribe 3 but an update fixed the problem.  Can anyone point me to which package would be the cause of this?
[07:57] <aliguori_> I think it may be Gnome related as apps like Firefox continue to display a normal sized font
[07:59] <aliguori_> hrm, looks like it could be related to #107320
[08:00] <aliguori_> i wonder if xserver-xorg-video-intel got updated...
[08:00] <malnilion> Woo, I just got a pretty sweet crash, but I'm not sure exactly which program caused it...
[08:02] <malnilion> Xserver restarted and the only thing that came up was Firefox had crashed, but I figure that was due primarily to xserver crashing :)
[08:03] <aliguori_> hrm, my dpi is being reported as 75, 75, that's not right.  i just tried an upstream intel driver and the dpi is still wrong so perhaps it's an upstream bug
[08:03] <aliguori_> i wonder why it was working before this morning's update
[08:04] <malnilion> I bet I could narrow my crash down to a couple likely candidates, though.  I had just started FretsOnFire after changing video setting to fullscreen and it died so it could be FoF.  Also, I'm using compiz, so that could also potentially be the cause.
[08:06] <aliguori_> hrm, manually setting the dpi seems to fix things
[08:06] <aliguori_> ah, found the perfect bug, #118745, sorry for the noise :-D
[08:09] <malnilion> Gutsy is remarkably stable for an alpha OS.
[08:09] <Tomi-idle> things go crash boom bang :3
[08:10] <malnilion> Was it a sexy crash? lol
[08:10] <Tomi-idle> it was ok. hope next time a little sexier ;)
[08:21] <Skiessi> how often the repositories are updated?
[08:26] <PriceChild> Skiessi, whenever there's something to update
[08:26] <PriceChild> in gutsy at least
[08:27] <PriceChild> stable releases only get security and severe bugfixes updated
[08:27] <Skiessi> is firefox 2.0.0.6 already there?
[08:27] <PriceChild> not yet
[08:28] <PriceChild> be patient and the mozilla team will get it in soon im' sure
[08:32] <asisak> we have firefox already
[08:32] <asisak> in gutsy I mean
[08:40] <malnilion> There are updates practically every hour :)
[08:43] <sayers> What happened to the restricted driver manager?
[08:43] <Skiessi> It's still there >_>
[08:43] <sayers> Skiessi, where?
[08:44] <Skiessi> I don't really know is it in the real gutsy because I'm using gutsy _and feisty repositories
[08:45] <ssam> sayers, system->administration
[08:45] <sayers> ssam, I don't see it there.
[08:46] <ssam> do you have any hardware that needs it? maybe it gets hidden if not
[08:46] <sayers> An Nvidia Geforce 6800
[08:46] <ssam> hmmm
[08:47] <ssam> go to the edit menus program, and see if you can find it in there
[08:47] <sayers> It's not.
[08:47] <malnilion> And it says it's installed?
[08:47] <malnilion> In add/remove?
[08:47] <Skiessi> you have "restricted-manager" -package installed?
[08:48] <sayers> I will check
[08:48] <sayers> I guess not.
[08:50] <malnilion> Did you upgrade?
[08:50] <malnilion> Or fresh install?
[08:50] <Skiessi> if it's not you should installed, you should at least install ubuntu-desktop -package
[08:50] <Skiessi> *if it's not installed*
[08:52] <malnilion> Ah, that reminds me, I need to get vmware up and running again due to the kernel upgrade.
[08:52] <malnilion> You know...
[08:53] <malnilion> I bet I could set it up to be less of a pain in the arse for me.
[08:53] <sayers> Fresh Install
[08:55] <malnilion> Might've been it.  I can never get the Install CDs to work for me.
[08:55] <malnilion> I mean at all.  The fact that he got it installed is good.
[08:58] <sayers> It seems as desktop-effects started up automaticly :(
[09:03] <Skiessi> Appearance Preferences keeps crashing :|
[09:05] <WaxyFresh> when do you guys expect gutsy to be ready for beta testing?that is for people that arnt good with bug fixing dpkg and dependancys?
[09:05] <asisak> WaxyFresh: have a look at the /topic
[09:20] <d4rkmonkey> Hi, I'm trying to update to Gutsy Tribe 3 from Feisty, and I was following the instructions here http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/tribe3. I've checked my update-manager version and I can't seem to find out how to update...
[09:21] <d4rkmonkey> Can anyone help me with this?
[09:26] <jrib> d4rkmonkey: you have feisty-proposed enabled?
[09:27] <d4rkmonkey> jrib, how do I enable it?
[09:27] <jrib> d4rkmonkey: system -> administration -> software sources
[09:27] <d4rkmonkey> jrib, ok, I'll try that
[09:28] <Intel4004> who would be in the know on the Intel ICH7R problem?
[09:28] <d4rkmonkey> jrib, yeah, its enabled
[09:30] <d4rkmonkey> jrib, I have no idea what to do now, do you have any other suggestions that I can try?
[09:31] <jrib> d4rkmonkey: what does 'apt-cache policy update-manager' return?
[09:31] <d4rkmonkey> jrib, one second, I'll get that
[09:32] <d4rkmonkey> jrib, ok if I paste it here since this channel isn't that busy?
[09:32] <jrib> pastebin is better
[09:32] <d4rkmonkey> jrib, ok then
[09:33] <d4rkmonkey> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32076/
[09:34] <jrib> d4rkmonkey: yeah, seems like you have the right version then
[09:36] <jrib> d4rkmonkey: does: gksu 'update-manager -d'      not work?
[09:36] <d4rkmonkey> with the '?
[09:37] <d4rkmonkey> jrib, with the ' ?
[09:37] <jrib> yeah
[09:37] <d4rkmonkey> well it starts up, but doesn't give me any option to upgrade to gutsy
[09:38] <hwilde> what version of madwifi is included in gutsy?
[09:38] <hwilde> modinfo ath_pci   if you could
[09:38] <jrib> d4rkmonkey: try pressing the "check" button
[09:38] <d4rkmonkey> jrib, I tried that, still didn't work. I'm gonna try a restart just incase that works...
[09:39] <sayers> Why are all these folders added to my Places . I like them being in the /home/me but I don't want my places list so long.
[09:41] <d4rkmonkey> Nope, restarting didn't help
[09:43] <d4rkmonkey> jrib, do you have any other ideas on how I could fix this?
[09:43] <d4rkmonkey> !
[09:43] <d4rkmonkey> oops, sorry that was meant for somewhere else
[09:43] <jrib> hold on, let me make sure it works here
[09:43] <d4rkmonkey> ok
[09:44] <sayers> http://www.ufridman.com/mac-mouseclick.jpg
[09:44] <sayers> Oops
[09:44] <tonyyarusso> aww, crud
[09:44] <d4rkmonkey> jrib, would changing the server that the update-manager is looking at would help anything?
[09:44] <tonyyarusso> Have I mentioned that I hate ATI?
[09:44] <d4rkmonkey> tonyyarusso, yes.
[09:45] <tonyyarusso> My terminals just all went wonky, so I'm going to need to reboot, again.
[09:45] <d4rkmonkey> tonyyarusso, that sucks...
[09:47] <sayers> So why are these folders added to Places automaticly even though I remove them?
[09:50] <Tomi-idle> use kde ;D
[09:51] <d4rkmonkey> jrib, any luck?
[09:52] <jrib> d4rkmonkey: yep, it says "7.10 is available" at the top and has an "upgrade" button
[09:52] <jrib> when i run:  gksu 'update-manager -d'
[09:52] <d4rkmonkey> jrib, thats weird. what servers are you using? maybe its that... I'm on the Canada servers
[09:53] <jrib> d4rkmonkey: us
[09:53] <d4rkmonkey> jrib, I'll try that
[09:55] <d4rkmonkey> jrib, can you check exactly which server you're using? under US theres a bunch of different servers, can you get me the exact server like mirror.cs.umn.edu or whatever it is?
[09:56] <jrib> how?  where do you want me to look?
[09:56] <d4rkmonkey> in the sources
[09:56] <jrib> my sources just have us.archive.ubuntu.com
[09:56] <d4rkmonkey> jrib, ok thats probably it then
[09:57] <d4rkmonkey> jrib, hmmm I can't find that exactly... I'll try a bunch of random servers
[10:18] <teratoma> does compiz (as in desktop effects) work with Gutsy?
[10:20] <pwnguin> it does for me
[10:20] <pwnguin> or at least, beryl does
[10:20] <pwnguin> i thought they merged back so...
[10:20] <teratoma> is beryl the same thing as compiz ?
[10:20] <pwnguin> basically
[10:21] <pwnguin> beryl was an experimental fork of compiz that merged back recently
[10:22] <d4rkmonkey_> I thought gutsy has compiz-fusion
[10:22] <crdlb> it does
[10:22] <d4rkmonkey_> a mix of compiz and beryl
[10:23] <crdlb> !info compiz-fusion-plugins-main gutsy
[10:23] <ubotu> compiz-fusion-plugins-main: Collection of plugins from OpenCompositing for Compiz. In component main, is extra. Version 0.0.0+git20070725-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 374 kB, installed size 1712 kB
[10:24] <d4rkmonkey> crdlb, do you know how I could go about upgrading to gutsy? I've tried update-manager -d and I checked that I have the version of my update manager, and I made sure that feisty-proposed was enabled, but it still won't work
[10:24] <teratoma> i think whoever works on compiz-fusion left out aiglx/intel support
[10:24] <crdlb> teratoma, they did not
[10:25] <Synthaxx> Isn't the AIGLX support handled by the driver?
[10:25] <teratoma> they did or did not?
[10:25] <teratoma> who do i blame?
[10:25] <Synthaxx> Canada? :)
[10:25] <crdlb> if it's not working, it's either a bug or user error
[10:25] <crdlb> lol
[10:26] <d4rkmonkey> :O Canada rocks :P
[10:26] <Synthaxx> it does indeed
[10:26] <d4rkmonkey> crdlb, I thought it might have been something to do with the server sources or something, but I'm not sure what other servers to use, I'm on the Canadian servers now
[10:27] <crdlb> d4rkmonkey, I have no idea, but I know it's a good idea to be on the main server when running ubuntu+1
[10:34] <pwnguin> d4rkmonkey: isn't it update-manager -c -d?
[10:34] <d4rkmonkey> pwnguin, I ran that too and it didn't work
[10:34] <d4rkmonkey> pwnguin, on the ubunut website it said -d to upgrade to gutsy
[10:34] <pwnguin> i guess thats the old way then
[10:35] <pwnguin> ive heard the non us mirrors arent active till release
[10:36] <d4rkmonkey> pwnguin, I'm on the main server now, shouldn't they be active on that?
[10:50] <pwnguin> d4rkmonkey: don't forget to "update"
[10:50] <pwnguin> though i guess the update manager should take care of that
[10:51] <d4rkmonkey> pwnguin, yeah, I haven't had very much success upgrading to gutsy yet
[10:51] <humbolt> I am trying to upgrade from feisty to gutsy
[10:51] <Tomi-idle> how's it going?
[10:51] <humbolt> but I am getting stuck at the c library upgrade
[10:52] <humbolt> A non-dpkg owned copy of the C library was found in /lib/tls.
[10:53] <humbolt> This is because dpkg can't remove the old libc files without rendering the whole system unusable. It has to overwrite them.
[10:53] <humbolt> but it does not like to
[10:53] <humbolt> not even when forcing in dpkg
[10:59] <d4rkmonkey> when trying to update to gutsy, I get "warning: could not initiate dbus
[10:59] <d4rkmonkey> current dist not found in meta-release file" in the terminal, anyone know how I could fix this and get onto upgrading to gutsy?
[11:09] <humbolt> d4rkmonkey: just ran into the exact same problem.
[11:09] <humbolt> d4rkmonkey: which command did you use?
[11:09] <d4rkmonkey> humbolt, I posted http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3111977#post3111977 but haven't gotten any response yet
[11:10] <geser> d4rkmonkey: can't you just ignore it?
[11:10] <d4rkmonkey> humbolt, gksu 'update manager -d'
[11:11] <d4rkmonkey> I mean gksu 'update-manager -d'
[11:11] <d4rkmonkey> geser, no I can't, it won't upgrade to gutsy.
[11:12] <humbolt> geser: I can confirm that. update-manager does not come up in release upgrade mode.
[11:13] <humbolt> geser: and doing it by hand does not work either due to the libc problem mentioned above!
[11:13] <d4rkmonkey> humbolt, theres some un-supported ways, but I don't want to break my system if I don't need to
[11:14] <geser> I'm running gutsy and I also get "current dist not found in meta-release file" when starting update-manager so this seems normal
[11:14] <d4rkmonkey> geser, I'm not running gutsy yet
[11:14] <d4rkmonkey> geser, I'm still on feisty trying to upgrade
[11:14] <hwilde> !gutsy
[11:14] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[11:16] <d4rkmonkey> hwilde?
[11:16] <geser> isn't there a -c missing in the command? "update-manager -c -d"
[11:16] <geser> could you try that?
[11:16] <d4rkmonkey> geser, -c -d gives me the exact same error
[11:16] <geser> if you like with sudo or gksu
[11:16] <humbolt> geser: confirm
[11:16] <leftcase> Hi there, I've just applied the kernel update from 2.6.22-8-generic to 2.6.22-9-generic. Unfortunately it hasn't also pulled across the nvidia module thus breaking the x-server - Is this considered a bug would you think?
[11:16] <geser> and still no update?
[11:16] <d4rkmonkey> geser I've done with and without gksu and sudo and with and without -c
[11:19] <geser> there is a bug open about it: bug #129392
[11:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 129392 in update-manager ""update-manager -d" in Feisty presents no option to upgrade to Gutsy" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129392
[11:19] <geser> perhaps you can help resolve it
[11:20] <d4rkmonkey> geser, thanks for sending me that bug report, I'll see if I can help at all
[11:41] <Happu> does anyone have bug with latest version of beryl? Mine window borders won't show up :/
[11:46] <geser> beryl? beryl got removed from gutsy
[11:46] <geser> gutsy has compiz fusion
[11:50] <Happu> sure, but I installed beryl after
[11:56] <geser> from where did you have beryl installed? from the Ubuntu archive?
[11:57] <Happu> yes
[11:57] <Happu> it came after last upgrade
[11:57] <Happu> it came about one week ago
[11:58] <geser> are you sure you mean beryl and not compiz?
[11:58] <d4rkmonkey> or compiz-fusion
[11:58] <Happu> yes, I'm now using compiz because it works and beryl doesn't
[12:00] <geser> beryl was removed from the archive so it won't get any updates anymore
[12:00] <Happu> okey
[12:00] <Happu> maybe it came from some other source
[12:01] <Happu> well, well... Is there anyway to configure compiz?
[12:01] <Happu> (similar to the beryl configuration tool)
[12:02] <knix> You want nothing similar to the beryl configuration tool
[12:02] <knix> ;)
[12:02] <Happu> Well I want some kind of configuration tool :D
[12:03] <knix> compizconfig-settings-manager
[12:03] <knix> awesome name, I know
[12:03] <knix> There's also gnome-compiz-manager
[12:03] <knix> or something
[12:04] <Happu> a fine name indeed :P
[12:05] <geser> last I tried gnome-compiz-manager didn't work very well with compiz-fusion
[12:05] <geser> I'm using compizconfig-settings-manager now
[12:06] <knix> Sounds like you've got an answer :)
[12:06] <Happu> should it be on /usr/bin/?
[12:06] <Happu> because it's not :E
[12:06] <knix> o.O
[12:06] <knix> It's in local?
[12:07] <Happu> there is no file of the name :S
[12:07] <geser> the binary is called ccsm
[12:07] <Happu> even though I clearly installed it a few seconds ago
[12:07] <Happu> nice
[12:07] <Happu> thanks
[12:08] <geser> or use Settings -> Preferences -> Compiz ...
[12:08] <knix> dpkg-query -L ;)
[12:10] <Happu> Uhm.. I'm fast
[12:10] <Happu> I broke compiz the same way!
[12:11] <Happu> well I'll fix it
[12:11] <Happu> I have all the night :)