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Vuenls12:31
Vuenargh wrong window12:31
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corevettewhat would this mean: warning This file includes at least one deprecated or antiquated header. Please consider using one of the 32 headers found in section 17.4.1.2 of the C++ standard. Examples include substituting the <X> header for the <X.h> header for C++ includes, or <iostream> instead of the deprecated header <iostream.h>. To disable this warning use -Wno-deprecated.01:00
Vuenhey all, how do i disable a user from being shown in the login list?01:09
Vuennevermind, got it01:09
Vuenwait, no, i haven't got it. the "hidden users" list in login manager settings doesn't seem to work01:11
Vueni suppose i should mention i'm on kubuntu01:11
Vuenanyone know where Login Manager in System Settings saves its settings?01:17
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DanaGYay:  ACPI: Allow custom DSDT tables to be loaded from initramfs01:46
DanaG(changelog from .22-9 kernel.  I don't need the feature, but I remember seeing a bug from people who do need it.)01:47
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DanaGHeh, I read telepathy-sofiasip as telepathy-sonofasip.01:51
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pwnguinhey, what's that multi display tool called?02:26
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StarScreamhey guys, running one of the daily builds for gutsy ppc. I'm a getting a  /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off error on boot. Is this common and is there  a known work around ?02:30
StarScreami know ppc isn't supported but launchpad seems indicate this is not ppc specific02:31
StarScreamhowever it doesn't seem to list a fix in the threads that i found.02:31
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holzmodemhi, every time i load a webpage with integrated flash with konqueror, the cpu load goes to 100% and konqueror hangs. it is the nspluginviewer. how can i solve it?03:00
OSUKid7holzmodem: I think I'm having a similar issue... I'm running ubuntu gutsy x86_64, and whenever I interact with a flash object in Firefox, firefox freezes03:08
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DanaGWTF?  In this game, alien-arena, my view immediately moves to pointing straight up, and won't go back down.03:09
Amaranthnspluginviewer is the problem03:10
AmaranthThe fix is 'Why are you using 64-bit?'03:10
holzmodemfirefox works great with flash, it konqueror03:10
DanaGOh, and sdl is absolutely devouring my CPU.03:10
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OSUKid7lol, firefox definitely doesn't work great with flash here :\03:12
OSUKid7Amaranth: so, if nspluginviewer is the problem, any solution minus ditching 64-bit?03:13
AmaranthTry gnash? :)03:13
DanaGArgh.03:14
crdlb:)03:14
DanaGOh, I see.... ALLLLLL mouse movements are being interpreted as moving up.03:17
DanaGThat's dumb.03:17
DanaGEr, I mean, all vertical ones.03:17
DanaGHorizontal still works.03:17
DanaGOkay, so up is up+up, down is up, left is left+up, right is right+up.03:19
DanaGFor example, I can't turn in place unless I also press down at the same time.03:23
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flaccidi would like to upgrade to gutsy03:23
flaccidjust update sources.list and dist-upgrade03:24
flaccidor is there some guide03:24
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DanaGIt's kinda' hard to play a game when you keep moving forward uncontrollably.03:37
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tehkIs compiz working for anyone?03:38
tehkI get a segfault when I start it up with 'compiz --replace'03:38
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piaohi, is any body use xubuntu gutsy?03:57
piaoi found if you click show Desktop button and any task on taskbar again and again, then the desktop forzen04:00
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piaoany body here.04:03
pschulz01Greetings04:04
poningruyarr04:05
pschulz01I am attempting to run Gutsy up in VMware ESX server (64bit). Has anyone reported problems with this? I'm getting the following error - "Your CPU does not support long mode. Use a 32bit distribution"04:06
pschulz01I didn;t have any problem with the 64bit Feisty.04:06
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teratomadoes compiz work in gutsy yet ?04:29
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User748Hi is this channel for support?05:04
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marek`have anyone successfully used gps bluetooth hardware06:39
marek`with gutsy06:39
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DanaGWTF?  All my animations have reset!06:48
DanaGAAaaargh!06:48
DanaGIf I didn't know better, I'd think I was in Windows.06:48
flaccidanimations reset in windows?06:49
crdlbno you're testing an alpha :)06:49
flaccidwhat animations06:49
DanaGIn compiz-fusion.06:49
DanaGI used to have certain animations set, and now it's all been reset.06:49
flaccidits beta software06:49
DanaGAnd now I can't figure out how to set it how it was, because names have been replaced with numbers.06:49
DanaGI'd expect things to be broken (as in crashing or having missing symbols), but I wasn't expecting the _upstream_ compiz-fusion to break things so horribly.06:50
crdlbupstream compiz-fusion is alpha too06:50
flaccidid expect anything with non-prod software06:50
DanaGBut still, you'd think the creators would notice that "10" and "11" and "2" are NOT very good NAMES for animations.06:51
RAOFAnd the guys behind fusion hardly have a reputation for not breaking things.06:51
crdlbthat's called a bug06:51
DanaGAt the very least, they should give a TABLE with mappings.06:51
RAOFWell, that's what you get for using a git snapshot.06:51
DanaGIs there anywhere to dig up the old deb?06:52
flaccidyou are using your bug is replicated by the devs06:54
flaccidusing=assuming06:54
RAOFOh, yes it is.06:55
DanaGI wouldn't mind the resetting as much if I could figure out what it is now set to.... but the numbers are just cryptic.06:56
DanaGIs there anywhere I can find a list mapping numbers to types?06:56
crdlbit's a *bug*06:56
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DanaGEeh, I'll just try all the numbers.07:01
DanaGAnd test with buddy list in pidgin.07:01
voidmagehmm07:04
voidmagei'm starting to get worried about my hard drives.07:05
voidmagektorrent keeps reporting finished torrents getting corrupted data long after they're done07:05
voidmage(i use xfs on my /home partition)07:05
StarScreamvoidmage: i am sure they are worried about you too =)07:05
StarScreamvoidmage: dmesg or  tail -f /var/log/messages07:05
StarScreamsee if its spitting I/O errors07:05
StarScreamif its broken, you might get lucky07:06
StarScreamotherwise i'd suggest backing stuff up soon :)07:06
voidmageJul 27 23:28:59 phoenix kernel: [   49.164617]  00:08: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A07:07
voidmagethat's all i see07:07
voidmagei'm thinking it's a weird thing in ktorrent07:07
voidmageyeah, nothing showing up in dmesg in the last few minutes except for marks07:08
DanaGTry a different app -- such as a Gnome torrent thingy, or Azureus, or even Torrent in Wine.07:09
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DanaGOkay, now I have it set the way I like; however, Firefox makes its tooltips appear as type "Menu".07:22
crdlbDanaG, workarounds plugin enabled?07:23
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DanaGLemme check.07:23
DanaGI can't find the plugin, actually.  It's not visible in ccsm.07:24
crdlbhmm must not be in your snapshot yet07:24
DanaGI'm now using the official Gutsy version, since 3v1n0 versions broke things.07:25
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voidmagei've noticed something weird in kde, don't think it's compiz related07:29
voidmagebut firefox likes to steal focus and pop itself to the front07:29
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stdinI've seen that too, it's strange actually because it doesn't gain focus (ie: the window isn't selected) but it pops up to the front07:32
stdinhappens with kwin and compiz07:32
voidmageah07:32
Tm_Tstdin: have you checked your kwin settings?07:33
Tm_Tstdin: I had some mysterious Firefox related settings, "ignore focus stealing prevention"07:33
stdinTm_T: let me have a look, I haven't touched the settings so I'll have a look07:34
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Tm_Tstdin: kcontrol is your friend btw, that systemsettings is, well, weird a bit07:36
stdinTm_T: it has focus stealing prevention set to "Force" "None"07:36
voidmagewhat about in compiz though?07:37
Tm_Tstdin: exactly, disavle that setting?07:37
Tm_Tb07:37
stdinactually, it seems ok in compiz now, I hadn't used it in a while07:37
voidmagedisable that?07:38
stdinwhen it's disabled, the window is still risen, but now it doesn't get put on top of others07:39
stdinit also works if I change the "None" to anything else07:41
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crackerboxhey guys07:57
crackerboxMrSno... are you here/alive?07:57
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crackerboxin a script, what does <&3 refer to?07:59
stdintakes input from file descriptor number 307:59
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crackerboxprintf "uname -r:\n" >&308:00
crackerboxand that?08:00
crackerboxthat is the context08:00
stdinprints "iname -r:" and a new line to file descriptor number 308:01
crackerboxis file descriptor number 3 specified somewhere?08:02
RAOFI think fd 3 is stderr, isn't it?08:02
RAOFOr maybe stdin.08:02
crdlb0 is in, 1 is out, and 2 is err08:02
crdlbiirc08:02
stdinfd0 is stdin fd1 is stdout and fd2 is stderr08:03
RAOFYeah, not thinknig right.08:03
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DanaGOh yay, aptitude is segfaulting.08:03
crackerboxcan someone summerize what fd3 does?08:03
stdinnope, it could be anything, depends what is assigned to it08:04
crackerboxoh.08:04
crackerboxi think what im trying to do is not doable08:04
DanaGWhy are there never any changelogs for g++ and gcc and cpp and gij?08:04
stdinwhat are you trying to do? :p08:05
crackerboxuse bash to set a variable equal to the name of the video card08:05
crackerbox  LC_ALL=C lspci | grep 'VGA compatible controller:' >&308:05
DanaGOh, I see..... I had another Aptitude open at the "Press enter to continue".08:06
crdlbuse ``08:06
crackerbox  LC_ALL=C lspci -n | grep 'Class 0300:' >&308:06
crdlbor $()08:06
RAOF$() is preferred; you can nest them :)08:06
crdlbVIDCARD = $(lspci|grep 'VGA')08:06
crdlbyeah :P08:06
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stdincrackerbox: just redirect to /dev/null08:06
stdinin that case >&3 seems to do nothing much08:07
DanaGI'd actually think the behavior would be undefined -- you might end up overwriting some other file opened by the process.08:08
DanaGAt least, I'd imagine such.08:08
stdinit would probably just fail08:08
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crackerboxarg08:08
Xemanthaargh08:09
stdinstdin@goten:~$ echo 1 >&308:09
stdinbash: 3: Bad file descriptor08:09
Xemanthi get same error08:09
voidmageoh wait08:09
voidmagei figured out why the corrupt data thing was coming up08:09
voidmagei retagged it and ktorrent doesn't recognize it anymore08:10
voidmage:P08:10
crackerboxok here is what i get... when i type:08:13
crackerboxlspci | grep 'VGA compatible controller:'08:13
crackerboxi get: 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 6100 nForce 405 (rev a2)08:14
crackerboxisnt there a way to use something like " | sed -e 's/Serial Number: //' " to shorten the output?08:15
stdinwhat do you want the output to be?08:18
crackerboxGeForce 610008:18
crdlberr that would be quite difficult08:19
crackerboxbefore i used this:08:19
crackerboxSERIAL0=$(cat /proc/scsi/usb-storage/* | grep Serial | sed -e 's/Serial Number: //')08:19
RAOFSed does regex, right :)08:19
crackerboxso tell me the serial number of my usb stick08:19
crackerboxso = to08:19
crackerboxwhat im trying to do would probably not be smiled upon08:21
crackerboxbasically, the part in casper_bottom that configures x with "casper-reconfigure /root xserver-xorg" is blocking the automatic usage of nvidia or ati cards08:22
DanaGWoah, I just crashed compiz by holding ctrl-alt-s.08:23
stdintry "|awk '{print $7" "$8}' "08:23
stdincrackerbox: ^08:23
crackerboxso if i take that 20xconfig out of casper_bottom (which is in the initrd.gz of the gusty live CD) and use a pre existing xorg.conf file that specifically has the correct video card listed, and my video drivers are already installed into the liveCD's file system and kernel... the live CD works with full nvidia 3d support from boot....08:24
crackerboxonly problem is now i want to be able to expand it and allow it to use ati or detect intel GPUs if present08:25
crackerboxso the first step is detecting the video card, and then running the correct installation scripts08:25
crackerboxlet me ask this...08:26
crackerboxisnt there a debconfig program that automatically sets up xorg.conf ??08:26
crackerboxand can that be used to detect the video card and update the config file without user interaction?08:27
stdincrackerbox: if you want to detect the make first, use "lspci |grep VGA|grep Nvidia" to detect an nvidia cards, changing it to ATI and Intel to detect the others, then you can get more specific after08:27
DanaGwtffff????? osssssssssomehooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwsloooooooowwwwwkeysss oooogotttttttte  nnnnnnnnnnbaabllllllleeeeeeeddddddd08:29
DanaGDo you want to activate Slow Keys?08:29
crackerboxwhat about "dpkg-reconfigure -fnoninteractive --no-reload "$package"08:30
DanaGyyyyyyyyyyyyooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu kkkkkknnnnnowww, iiiiiiiitttttttt rrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeelaaaaaaaaaaallllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyy         sssssssssohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhoooullllllddddddddnnnnnnnnnn'''''tttttttttt   eeeeeeennnnnnnnnbbbaaaaaaabbbbbblllleeeeee iiiiiiiiittttttttt  unless you tell it to activate it!08:30
voidmageweird, some emerald theme i used is gone08:30
crackerboxstdin... should there be some quotes in that line you posted?08:31
DanaGTry this: hold shift for a while, and watch as your keyboard seemingly breaks -- especially if you press escape.08:31
stdincrackerbox: just append everything inside the the quotes to the end, like: lspci | grep VGA | grep nVidia  (the case of nVidia matters unless you use "grep -i nvidia"08:32
DanaGwttttttttttffffffffff/////////////////////////////////////////?????????????????????08:32
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crackerboxwhen i do: "lspci | grep VGA | grep -i ati" i will get into trouble because it wants to output "compatible" which has ati in it08:35
crdlbso don't use -i08:35
stdincrackerbox: the "ati" would be uppercase with ait cards08:35
crackerboxnice08:35
stdincrackerbox: or use -w with grep08:36
stdincrackerbox: like " lspci|grep VGA|grep -Ewo '(Intel|ATI|nVidia)' "08:36
stdinthat should wither print "Intel", "ATI" or "nVidia"08:36
stdindependind on the card08:36
crackerboxnow thats good stuff08:37
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crackerboxnow the harder part is extracting the actual cards model number08:41
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DanaGhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/4142708:43
ubotuLaunchpad bug 41427 in Ubuntu ""slow keys" can turn on surreptitiously & cause confusion." [Medium,Incomplete] 08:43
crackerboxi think i will have to use grep and sed together08:44
stdincrackerbox: yeah, this works: " lspci | grep VGA|awk -F: '{print $3}'|sed 's/ [a-Z] * Corporation // ; s/(.*)//g' " at least for nvidia and intel08:46
crackerboxis there something like a grep / awk guide for dummies out there?08:49
crackerboxcause i would much rather learn to fish than be handed fish, you know08:49
crackerboxalthough that is some nice fish08:49
crackerboxthanks, btw08:49
stdinthe advanced bash scripting guide is nice: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/08:50
stdinalso: man awk , man sed , man grep. and #bash :p08:51
stdinit's quite a big subject and experimentation is the best way to learn it08:51
crackerboxthanks08:55
crackerboxdo you know about "dpkg-reconfigure -fnoninteractive --no-reload xserver-xorg" ?08:58
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crackerboxunfortuently, that just gives me "Identifier"Generic Video Card""08:59
crackerboxin xorg.conf08:59
crackerboxi wonder what i need to do to have it automatically detect?09:00
stdinI don't know much about that09:00
crackerboxis there a way to add lines of text to a deb config (at a specific place) from bash?09:03
crackerboxin xorg.conf under the section: Section "Device" ... i would need to add the line: "Driver"nvidia""09:04
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crackerboxi seem to recall something from casper_bottom... hold on09:05
crackerboxchroot /root debconf-communicate -fnoninteractive casper > /dev/null <<EOF09:05
crackerboxset xserver-xorg/autodetect_keyboard true09:05
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crackerboxFSET xserver-xorg/autodetect_video_card seen true09:07
crackerboxthat might be the ticket right there09:07
crackerboxthat is taken from this blog: http://worka.blogspot.com/2006/02/xorg-auto-configuration-in.html#links09:08
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databuddygah09:16
databuddywhat is it on the install cd's that autoboots>?09:16
Hobbseelive?  alternate?09:16
databuddyoh i think this one is live09:19
databuddysee09:19
databuddyi got my hdd's on the cable on the mobo09:19
databuddyand my opticals on the extension card - pci controller09:19
databuddyproblem is my bios doesnt see drives on the card09:19
databuddythey can be used once booted but not till then.09:19
databuddynow i managed to install grub in my thumbdrive - so thats good09:19
databuddyand i can swap them eventually09:19
databuddybut im not enterprizing enough atm - and i was kinda wondering how i could use my thumbdrive to boot the cd instead09:20
databuddyneh?09:20
databuddy[i wanna do an install] 09:20
databuddyis it the isolinux in the isolinux folder?09:20
databuddyor can i just do a chainload for the cdrom? and if so can i define by device?09:21
databuddyoo or in that install directory that sbm.bin - can i just move that to the grub dir somehow?09:23
DanaGOne thing funny on SuSE's isolinux: try pressing F8 on the boot menu.09:25
DanaGPixels start marching around to make the shape of the chameleon logo.09:26
crackerboxhmmm it looks like r-m (restricted manager) is doing some dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg magic09:29
DanaGI'd love to see that funny effect with the Ubuntu logo on the Ubuntu isolinux.09:30
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crackerboxcan i call a py script from rcS?09:43
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asisakcrackerbox: in theory why not?09:48
asisakhowever, if you don't want to run a "real" init script, /etc/rc.local is for user scripts09:49
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asisakre johnnybuoy09:49
johnnybuoyre09:50
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crackerboxim not running a user script09:53
crackerboxthis script will automatically configure xserver-xorg in the liveCD to detect and enable restricted drivers automatically09:54
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databuddygah10:43
databuddyi cant get a cdrom to b0ot from grub ;_;10:43
Xemanthis that possible?10:47
Xemanthto boot cdrom from grub10:47
Hobbsee...why would you *want* to boot the cdrom from grub?10:48
Xemanthis it possible to boot usb stick from grub? :P10:48
HobbseeXemanth: assuming all the required stuff was on the usb stick, yes.10:49
Xemanthhmm-m thats nice10:50
Hobbseeand assuming that you had the correct grub config10:51
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databuddyXemanth: yes10:55
databuddyits possible to do both10:55
databuddybut problem is grub doesnt see the device10:55
databuddyi think i need to boot to stick_dos >> cd10:56
databuddyb/c eventually im gonna swap em back10:56
databuddyi only have one pata slot on my mobo and it doesnt see the disks connected via ide controller card so atm its rather borked10:56
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databuddymeh i just realized its like 4 hrs past my bedtime as im getting up in as many hrs +.510:57
databuddyso im gonna go to bed.10:57
databuddybut this is my project this week.10:57
databuddyi may just have to put cdrom and hdd on same cable so i have SOME bootable cdrom and hdd at the same time.10:57
databuddywhich sux royally.10:57
databuddyanyway ninie10:57
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Hobbseelike when normally installing ubuntu10:59
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databuddyit.wont.see.it.right.now.11:03
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databuddybios limitation11:03
databuddywhatever drives are connected to the card are invisible to the bios and thus to grub.11:03
Hobbseeah right11:03
Hobbseeuseful11:03
databuddywish it were that easy - would have had it going a week ago :P11:03
databuddyalso i need to figure if my hdd can support a third disk on the hdd rails - perhaps i could jsut get some sata drive and plug that into the mobo in the sata slot11:04
databuddythen i would have another drive that everything could see.11:04
databuddybut of course i actually have to find the cash to pay for that ~_~11:05
databuddyi wish there were a way to install to hdd without booting to the cd.11:05
databuddyonce linux is booted it sees all the drives tho =/11:05
databuddygah ninie again11:05
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IdleOnethis may be a dumb question but I just did a dist-upgrade and tcpdump was upgraded. what I dont understand is why was  http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main tcpdump 3.9.5-2ubuntu1 [303kB]  used ( feisty repo ) ?01:48
IdleOneyes I am running gutsy01:48
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PiciIdleOne: Are you sure that all your /etc/apt/sources.list entries are gutsy?01:51
IdleOnePici, I havent checked01:52
IdleOnelemme look01:52
PiciIdleOne: And apt-cache policy tcpdump  doesnt look weird01:52
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IdleOnesources.list is all feist but I do have a deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Alpha i386 (20070718.1)] / gutsy main restricted in there also.01:53
IdleOnefeisty*01:54
IdleOneguess I'll delete the cd deb and change all the fiesty to gutsy01:54
PiciHm.. You upgraded with the CD and it left your sources.list at feisty level..01:55
IdleOneyup01:55
IdleOneseems so01:55
IdleOneapt-cache output01:55
IdleOnetcpdump:01:55
IdleOne  Installed: 3.9.5-2ubuntu101:55
IdleOne  Candidate: 3.9.5-2ubuntu101:55
IdleOne  Version table:01:55
IdleOne *** 3.9.5-2ubuntu1 001:55
IdleOne        500 http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main Packages01:55
IdleOne        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status01:55
IdleOne     3.9.5-2 001:55
IdleOne        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Packages01:55
IdleOne        500 cdrom://Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Alpha i386 (20070718.1) gutsy/main Packages01:56
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IdleOnewow changing the repos to gutsy made a big difference.02:00
IdleOne321 packages upgraded, 44 newly installed, 9 to remove and 0 not upgraded.02:00
IdleOnewhy did the upgrade from CD change sources.list ?02:00
IdleOnedidnt02:00
IdleOnewell upgrade in progress guess I'll go take a shower02:02
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AmaranthIdleOne: file a bug02:09
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IdleOneAmaranth, will doo02:30
IdleOnedo*02:30
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IdleOneAmaranth, bug 12941002:37
ubotuBug 129410 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/129410 is private02:38
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AmaranthIdleOne: I have no idea how you managed to file a bug I can't see02:38
AmaranthI'm in the qa team, these things are supposed to be open to me :)02:38
IdleOneAmaranth, beats me but it is set private for some reason02:39
Amaranthset it public02:39
IdleOnek02:39
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=== Hobbsee looks at it
Hobbseeoh waht?02:40
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Hobbseeit's forbidden for me too?02:41
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HobbseeIdleOne: you filed that, for ubuntu?02:42
IdleOneyes02:42
Hobbseeer, under ubuntu?02:42
IdleOnehow do I set it public now?02:42
Hobbseesee the actions panel02:43
=== Hobbsee has asked on #launchpad too, but no response
IdleOnetry now02:44
coNP bug 12941002:44
ubotuLaunchpad bug 129410 in Ubuntu "Gutsy upgrade from CD not upgrading sources.list" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12941002:44
coNPyou did it, IdleOne  :)02:44
IdleOneI gotta run. have a good day folks02:44
IdleOnecoNP, I surpirse myself sometimes :P02:44
IdleOnesurprise also02:44
coNPbye, IdleOne02:44
=== Hobbsee wonders how that's a security vuln?
HobbseeIdleOne: you havent mentioned how you did the dist upgrade, hwo you added the cd to sources list, etc.....02:47
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HobbseeIdleOne: i suggest you fix those kind of things before i hit it with the incomplete stick02:47
Hobbseeand of course, learning how to spell feisty is always useful, too..02:47
coNPI am a bit afraid this is not a bug, but a feature.02:48
coNPSince I am not sure, dist-upgrade is supposed to edit sources.list02:48
coNP(In contrast to update-manager)02:48
AmaranthcoNP: I thought he ran the autoupdate thing that pops up when you stick in an ubuntu cd02:49
coNPThe only thing mentioned is that he used Synaptic.02:49
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mc44anyone using xchat? the notification bubble for messages doesn't seem to work here03:15
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asisakmc44: sure, you are right.03:17
mc44asisak: doesn't work for you either?03:18
asisakmc44: can you send me a private message to test this?03:18
asisakhmm, maybe a restart is needed03:19
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mc44I get an error about notify-send, but libnotify looks to be installed03:20
asisak(1) libnotify-bin needs to be installed03:20
asisak(2) it does not seem to work :(03:20
alex-weejnotification daemon is segfaulting03:21
alex-weejthat's why it doesn't work03:21
alex-weejno notifications work03:21
asisakthanks, alex-weej03:21
mc44aha03:22
asisakI'll fix xchat, though03:22
mc44:)03:22
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asisakto depend on libnotify-bin03:22
alex-weeji don't think you CAN fix xchat, it's doing eveyrthing right03:22
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asisakalex-weej: it needs to depend on the binary03:22
alex-weejis the notification plugin not built against libnotify?03:22
alex-weejthe "on-screen display" one03:23
asisakI guess it is not a plugin any more03:23
asisakmc44: do you want to file a bug? :)03:24
mc44asisak: I have to er.. run now :p03:24
asisakokay03:24
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praecoxhello guys03:25
praecoxanyone here got an experience with Compiz Fusion on Kubuntu Gutsy (7.10)?03:25
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asisakalex-weej: do you know why notification segfaults?04:45
alex-weejasisak: no, haven't had time to figure it out04:46
asisakokay04:46
alex-weejactually that's a lie04:47
alex-weeji had a quick look04:47
alex-weejthe problem is in the ubuntu theme so04:47
alex-weejif you change your gconf /apps/notification-daemon/theme from "ubuntu" to "" it will start working again04:48
asisakalex-weej: you are righty right, thanks04:49
asisakbtw it is fixed04:50
alex-weejreally?04:50
asisakmvo did an update04:50
alex-weejis it in the archives yet?04:50
asisakonly the source is uploaded now04:50
alex-weejok04:50
asisakbug 12792504:50
ubotuLaunchpad bug 127925 in notification-daemon "notification-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in move_notification()" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12792504:51
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alex-weejah04:52
alex-weejnew tooltips04:52
alex-weej:@04:52
alex-weejtoo dark04:52
alex-weejand buggy as fuck!04:52
asisak*works for me*04:54
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malnilionThis might very well be a stupid question, but in Feisty if I had a /etc/modprobe.d/sound file with a parameter that let me change which model my sound driver used.  I now have no "sound" file and can't find an alternate location for the paramater.  Anybody have any idea where or how I might find it?05:16
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stdinmalnilion: you can probably just make the file05:21
malnilionWorth a shot, eh?05:21
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malnilionYeah, if I recall correctly it just had two lines05:21
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stdinI think modprobe just "sources" all the files in /etc/modprobe.d anyway05:22
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stdinthe names are just for us humans :p05:22
malnilionYeah, the sound file had "alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel" and "options snd-hda-intel model=blah" as I recall05:23
malnilionAnd I couldn't find those lines elsewhere.05:23
Tomi-idleeasiest way to install mplayer-plugin on 32bit firefox under amd64?05:24
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malnilionI would guess download the 32bit debs and install via dpkg...05:24
malnilionBut that would be a guess.05:25
Tomi-idledidn't work :/05:25
Tomi-idlei'll go seach if the plugins are even i nthe right dir05:26
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gnomefreakplugins for what?05:27
malnilion64 bit...that'll be a fun upgrade in a few years ;)05:27
manchickenTomi-idle: There's a walk-through in the wiki.05:27
manchickenTomi-idle: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava05:28
gnomefreakwhy not just install nspluginwrapper05:28
gnomefreakits allows you to use 32 bit plugins with 64 bit system05:29
manchickengnomefreak: Really?  You got a doc on how to set that up?05:29
gnomefreakalso IMHO gnash 0.8.0 is better than flash05:29
gnomefreak!nspluginwrapper05:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nspluginwrapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:29
gnomefreakdamn05:29
manchickengnomefreak: Gnash (any version) causes X to bork with ATI cards.05:29
gnomefreakno docs yet but it should install them05:29
Tomi-idleare there speed difference with 32bit plugins on 64bit firefox?05:29
Tomi-idleor other annoying stuff? :)05:30
gnomefreakmanchicken: is there a bug #? since im one of the contacts :(05:30
manchickenTomi-idle: 32-bit plugins will be slower in a 64-bit system.05:30
gnomefreakTomi-idle: not that i have heard of or seen05:30
manchickengnomefreak: Don't know.  I haven't posted it, I think someone said it was known.05:30
malnilionShouldn't be slower than 32-bit plugins on a 32-bit system, though, surely?05:30
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manchickenRunning 32 inside of 64 will be slower (though not likely noticeable) because of the compat layer.05:31
gnomefreakmanchicken: i will talk to asac about it once i get -trunk to stop failing to build05:31
manchickengnomefreak: Groovy.05:31
gnomefreakflash == slow as crap anyway05:31
manchickengnomefreak: I'm willing to test debs if they have them.05:31
gnomefreaksame with java UI's05:31
manchickengnomefreak: Too true.05:31
Tomi-idleno mplayer plugin info on the wiki05:32
Tomi-idleflash is working ok though05:32
gnomefreakmanchicken: i just pinged him about it so when he answers my other posts he will answer that one (more than likely with a eh)05:33
gnomefreakhe only has 64bit pcs i know one with ati05:33
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manchickengnomefreak: If he wants more info, I'm specifically referring to a radeon xpress200m, running xorg drivers.05:35
manchickenno 3d accel05:36
manchicken(obviously)05:36
gnomefreakmanchicken: join us in #ubuntu-mozillateam05:36
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Tomi-idlethx for the info on nspluginwrapper05:59
Tomi-idlegot everything working05:59
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HEP85I found a bug: gdm user album stopped working since the upgrade to gutsy06:03
asisakwhat do you mean by "gdm user"?06:03
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HEP85I mean some gdm skins allow you to select a username rather than typing it in. and this list disappeared06:04
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asisakHEP85: this might be a theme that is not included any more.06:04
asisakThere are themes with user face lists and ones without.06:04
asisakYou should select (again) one with faces in gdmsetup before reporting a bug.06:05
HEP85I will try, but I think I already checked that06:05
HEP85now I selected "Human List"06:05
HEP85brb06:06
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HEP85empty list06:06
HEP85any ideas? or is this a known issue?06:07
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Nergarhello06:57
Nergari can't find the restricted drivers manager in tribe 306:58
stdinrestricted-manager ?07:00
Nergaryes07:01
Nergarno restricted-manager in System>Preferences07:01
Nergaralso no restricted-manager command07:02
stdinI don't know then, I use kde :)07:02
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PriceChildwooo rt2500 driver is back in gutsy :)07:35
PriceChildand working nicely with network manager07:35
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aliguori_after an update this morning, all the fonts are larger than they should be.  It was like this with an initial install of tribe 3 but an update fixed the problem.  Can anyone point me to which package would be the cause of this?07:57
aliguori_I think it may be Gnome related as apps like Firefox continue to display a normal sized font07:57
aliguori_hrm, looks like it could be related to #10732007:59
aliguori_i wonder if xserver-xorg-video-intel got updated...08:00
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malnilionWoo, I just got a pretty sweet crash, but I'm not sure exactly which program caused it...08:00
malnilionXserver restarted and the only thing that came up was Firefox had crashed, but I figure that was due primarily to xserver crashing :)08:02
aliguori_hrm, my dpi is being reported as 75, 75, that's not right.  i just tried an upstream intel driver and the dpi is still wrong so perhaps it's an upstream bug08:03
aliguori_i wonder why it was working before this morning's update08:03
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malnilionI bet I could narrow my crash down to a couple likely candidates, though.  I had just started FretsOnFire after changing video setting to fullscreen and it died so it could be FoF.  Also, I'm using compiz, so that could also potentially be the cause.08:04
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aliguori_hrm, manually setting the dpi seems to fix things08:06
aliguori_ah, found the perfect bug, #118745, sorry for the noise :-D08:06
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malnilionGutsy is remarkably stable for an alpha OS.08:09
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Tomi-idlethings go crash boom bang :308:09
malnilionWas it a sexy crash? lol08:10
Tomi-idleit was ok. hope next time a little sexier ;)08:10
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Skiessihow often the repositories are updated?08:21
PriceChildSkiessi, whenever there's something to update08:26
PriceChildin gutsy at least08:26
PriceChildstable releases only get security and severe bugfixes updated08:27
Skiessiis firefox 2.0.0.6 already there?08:27
PriceChildnot yet08:27
PriceChildbe patient and the mozilla team will get it in soon im' sure08:28
asisakwe have firefox already08:32
asisakin gutsy I mean08:32
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malnilionThere are updates practically every hour :)08:40
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sayersWhat happened to the restricted driver manager?08:43
SkiessiIt's still there >_>08:43
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sayersSkiessi, where?08:43
SkiessiI don't really know is it in the real gutsy because I'm using gutsy _and feisty repositories08:44
ssamsayers, system->administration08:45
sayersssam, I don't see it there.08:45
ssamdo you have any hardware that needs it? maybe it gets hidden if not08:46
sayersAn Nvidia Geforce 680008:46
ssamhmmm08:46
ssamgo to the edit menus program, and see if you can find it in there08:47
sayersIt's not.08:47
malnilionAnd it says it's installed?08:47
malnilionIn add/remove?08:47
Skiessiyou have "restricted-manager" -package installed?08:47
sayersI will check08:48
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sayersI guess not.08:48
malnilionDid you upgrade?08:50
malnilionOr fresh install?08:50
Skiessiif it's not you should installed, you should at least install ubuntu-desktop -package08:50
Skiessi*if it's not installed*08:50
malnilionAh, that reminds me, I need to get vmware up and running again due to the kernel upgrade.08:52
malnilionYou know...08:52
malnilionI bet I could set it up to be less of a pain in the arse for me.08:53
sayersFresh Install08:53
malnilionMight've been it.  I can never get the Install CDs to work for me.08:55
malnilionI mean at all.  The fact that he got it installed is good.08:55
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sayersIt seems as desktop-effects started up automaticly :(08:58
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SkiessiAppearance Preferences keeps crashing :|09:03
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WaxyFreshwhen do you guys expect gutsy to be ready for beta testing?that is for people that arnt good with bug fixing dpkg and dependancys?09:05
asisakWaxyFresh: have a look at the /topic09:05
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d4rkmonkeyHi, I'm trying to update to Gutsy Tribe 3 from Feisty, and I was following the instructions here http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/tribe3. I've checked my update-manager version and I can't seem to find out how to update...09:20
d4rkmonkeyCan anyone help me with this?09:21
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jribd4rkmonkey: you have feisty-proposed enabled?09:26
d4rkmonkeyjrib, how do I enable it?09:27
jribd4rkmonkey: system -> administration -> software sources09:27
d4rkmonkeyjrib, ok, I'll try that09:27
Intel4004who would be in the know on the Intel ICH7R problem?09:28
d4rkmonkeyjrib, yeah, its enabled09:28
d4rkmonkeyjrib, I have no idea what to do now, do you have any other suggestions that I can try?09:30
jribd4rkmonkey: what does 'apt-cache policy update-manager' return?09:31
d4rkmonkeyjrib, one second, I'll get that09:31
d4rkmonkeyjrib, ok if I paste it here since this channel isn't that busy?09:32
jribpastebin is better09:32
d4rkmonkeyjrib, ok then09:32
d4rkmonkeyjrib, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32076/09:33
jribd4rkmonkey: yeah, seems like you have the right version then09:34
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jribd4rkmonkey: does: gksu 'update-manager -d'      not work?09:36
d4rkmonkeywith the '?09:36
d4rkmonkeyjrib, with the ' ?09:37
jribyeah09:37
d4rkmonkeywell it starts up, but doesn't give me any option to upgrade to gutsy09:37
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hwildewhat version of madwifi is included in gutsy?09:38
hwildemodinfo ath_pci   if you could09:38
jribd4rkmonkey: try pressing the "check" button09:38
d4rkmonkeyjrib, I tried that, still didn't work. I'm gonna try a restart just incase that works...09:38
sayersWhy are all these folders added to my Places . I like them being in the /home/me but I don't want my places list so long.09:39
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d4rkmonkeyNope, restarting didn't help09:41
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d4rkmonkeyjrib, do you have any other ideas on how I could fix this?09:43
d4rkmonkey!09:43
d4rkmonkeyoops, sorry that was meant for somewhere else09:43
jribhold on, let me make sure it works here09:43
d4rkmonkeyok09:43
sayershttp://www.ufridman.com/mac-mouseclick.jpg09:44
sayersOops09:44
tonyyarussoaww, crud09:44
d4rkmonkeyjrib, would changing the server that the update-manager is looking at would help anything?09:44
tonyyarussoHave I mentioned that I hate ATI?09:44
d4rkmonkeytonyyarusso, yes.09:44
tonyyarussoMy terminals just all went wonky, so I'm going to need to reboot, again.09:45
d4rkmonkeytonyyarusso, that sucks...09:45
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sayersSo why are these folders added to Places automaticly even though I remove them?09:47
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Tomi-idleuse kde ;D09:50
d4rkmonkeyjrib, any luck?09:51
jribd4rkmonkey: yep, it says "7.10 is available" at the top and has an "upgrade" button09:52
jribwhen i run:  gksu 'update-manager -d'09:52
d4rkmonkeyjrib, thats weird. what servers are you using? maybe its that... I'm on the Canada servers09:52
jribd4rkmonkey: us09:53
d4rkmonkeyjrib, I'll try that09:53
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d4rkmonkeyjrib, can you check exactly which server you're using? under US theres a bunch of different servers, can you get me the exact server like mirror.cs.umn.edu or whatever it is?09:55
jribhow?  where do you want me to look?09:56
d4rkmonkeyin the sources09:56
jribmy sources just have us.archive.ubuntu.com09:56
d4rkmonkeyjrib, ok thats probably it then09:56
d4rkmonkeyjrib, hmmm I can't find that exactly... I'll try a bunch of random servers09:57
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teratomadoes compiz (as in desktop effects) work with Gutsy?10:18
pwnguinit does for me10:20
pwnguinor at least, beryl does10:20
pwnguini thought they merged back so...10:20
teratomais beryl the same thing as compiz ?10:20
pwnguinbasically10:20
pwnguinberyl was an experimental fork of compiz that merged back recently10:21
d4rkmonkey_I thought gutsy has compiz-fusion10:22
crdlbit does10:22
d4rkmonkey_a mix of compiz and beryl10:22
crdlb!info compiz-fusion-plugins-main gutsy10:23
ubotucompiz-fusion-plugins-main: Collection of plugins from OpenCompositing for Compiz. In component main, is extra. Version 0.0.0+git20070725-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 374 kB, installed size 1712 kB10:23
d4rkmonkeycrdlb, do you know how I could go about upgrading to gutsy? I've tried update-manager -d and I checked that I have the version of my update manager, and I made sure that feisty-proposed was enabled, but it still won't work10:24
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teratomai think whoever works on compiz-fusion left out aiglx/intel support10:24
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crdlbteratoma, they did not10:24
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SynthaxxIsn't the AIGLX support handled by the driver?10:25
teratomathey did or did not?10:25
teratomawho do i blame?10:25
SynthaxxCanada? :)10:25
crdlbif it's not working, it's either a bug or user error10:25
crdlblol10:25
d4rkmonkey:O Canada rocks :P10:26
Synthaxxit does indeed10:26
d4rkmonkeycrdlb, I thought it might have been something to do with the server sources or something, but I'm not sure what other servers to use, I'm on the Canadian servers now10:26
crdlbd4rkmonkey, I have no idea, but I know it's a good idea to be on the main server when running ubuntu+110:27
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pwnguind4rkmonkey: isn't it update-manager -c -d?10:34
d4rkmonkeypwnguin, I ran that too and it didn't work10:34
d4rkmonkeypwnguin, on the ubunut website it said -d to upgrade to gutsy10:34
pwnguini guess thats the old way then10:34
pwnguinive heard the non us mirrors arent active till release10:35
d4rkmonkeypwnguin, I'm on the main server now, shouldn't they be active on that?10:36
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pwnguind4rkmonkey: don't forget to "update"10:50
pwnguinthough i guess the update manager should take care of that10:50
d4rkmonkeypwnguin, yeah, I haven't had very much success upgrading to gutsy yet10:51
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humboltI am trying to upgrade from feisty to gutsy10:51
Tomi-idlehow's it going?10:51
humboltbut I am getting stuck at the c library upgrade10:51
humboltA non-dpkg owned copy of the C library was found in /lib/tls.10:52
humboltThis is because dpkg can't remove the old libc files without rendering the whole system unusable. It has to overwrite them.10:53
humboltbut it does not like to10:53
humboltnot even when forcing in dpkg10:53
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d4rkmonkeywhen trying to update to gutsy, I get "warning: could not initiate dbus10:59
d4rkmonkeycurrent dist not found in meta-release file" in the terminal, anyone know how I could fix this and get onto upgrading to gutsy?10:59
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humboltd4rkmonkey: just ran into the exact same problem.11:09
humboltd4rkmonkey: which command did you use?11:09
d4rkmonkeyhumbolt, I posted http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3111977#post3111977 but haven't gotten any response yet11:09
geserd4rkmonkey: can't you just ignore it?11:10
d4rkmonkeyhumbolt, gksu 'update manager -d'11:10
d4rkmonkeyI mean gksu 'update-manager -d'11:11
d4rkmonkeygeser, no I can't, it won't upgrade to gutsy.11:11
humboltgeser: I can confirm that. update-manager does not come up in release upgrade mode.11:12
humboltgeser: and doing it by hand does not work either due to the libc problem mentioned above!11:13
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d4rkmonkeyhumbolt, theres some un-supported ways, but I don't want to break my system if I don't need to11:13
geserI'm running gutsy and I also get "current dist not found in meta-release file" when starting update-manager so this seems normal11:14
d4rkmonkeygeser, I'm not running gutsy yet11:14
d4rkmonkeygeser, I'm still on feisty trying to upgrade11:14
hwilde!gutsy11:14
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+111:14
d4rkmonkeyhwilde?11:16
geserisn't there a -c missing in the command? "update-manager -c -d"11:16
gesercould you try that?11:16
d4rkmonkeygeser, -c -d gives me the exact same error11:16
geserif you like with sudo or gksu11:16
humboltgeser: confirm11:16
leftcaseHi there, I've just applied the kernel update from 2.6.22-8-generic to 2.6.22-9-generic. Unfortunately it hasn't also pulled across the nvidia module thus breaking the x-server - Is this considered a bug would you think?11:16
geserand still no update?11:16
d4rkmonkeygeser I've done with and without gksu and sudo and with and without -c11:16
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geserthere is a bug open about it: bug #12939211:19
ubotuLaunchpad bug 129392 in update-manager ""update-manager -d" in Feisty presents no option to upgrade to Gutsy" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12939211:19
geserperhaps you can help resolve it11:19
d4rkmonkeygeser, thanks for sending me that bug report, I'll see if I can help at all11:20
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Happudoes anyone have bug with latest version of beryl? Mine window borders won't show up :/11:41
geserberyl? beryl got removed from gutsy11:46
gesergutsy has compiz fusion11:46
Happusure, but I installed beryl after11:50
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geserfrom where did you have beryl installed? from the Ubuntu archive?11:56
Happuyes11:57
Happuit came after last upgrade11:57
Happuit came about one week ago11:57
geserare you sure you mean beryl and not compiz?11:58
d4rkmonkeyor compiz-fusion11:58
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Happuyes, I'm now using compiz because it works and beryl doesn't11:58
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geserberyl was removed from the archive so it won't get any updates anymore12:00
Happuokey12:00
Happumaybe it came from some other source12:00
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Happuwell, well... Is there anyway to configure compiz?12:01
Happu(similar to the beryl configuration tool)12:01
knixYou want nothing similar to the beryl configuration tool12:02
knix;)12:02
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HappuWell I want some kind of configuration tool :D12:02
knixcompizconfig-settings-manager12:03
knixawesome name, I know12:03
knixThere's also gnome-compiz-manager12:03
knixor something12:03
Happua fine name indeed :P12:04
geserlast I tried gnome-compiz-manager didn't work very well with compiz-fusion12:05
geserI'm using compizconfig-settings-manager now12:05
knixSounds like you've got an answer :)12:06
Happushould it be on /usr/bin/?12:06
Happubecause it's not :E12:06
knixo.O12:06
knixIt's in local?12:06
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Happuthere is no file of the name :S12:07
geserthe binary is called ccsm12:07
Happueven though I clearly installed it a few seconds ago12:07
Happunice12:07
Happuthanks12:07
geseror use Settings -> Preferences -> Compiz ...12:08
knixdpkg-query -L ;)12:08
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HappuUhm.. I'm fast12:10
HappuI broke compiz the same way!12:10
Happuwell I'll fix it12:11
HappuI have all the night :)12:11
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