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Please consider using one of the 32 headers found in section 17.4.1.2 of the C++ standard. Examples include substituting the header for the header for C++ includes, or instead of the deprecated header . To disable this warning use -Wno-deprecated. [01:09] hey all, how do i disable a user from being shown in the login list? [01:09] nevermind, got it [01:11] wait, no, i haven't got it. the "hidden users" list in login manager settings doesn't seem to work [01:11] i suppose i should mention i'm on kubuntu [01:17] anyone know where Login Manager in System Settings saves its settings? === vlowther [n=vlowther@adsl-75-55-115-198.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Agrajag` [n=Agrajag@c-67-163-214-103.hsd1.oh.comcast.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 === ccooke [n=ccooke@spc1-walt5-0-0-cust591.asfd.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:46] Yay: ACPI: Allow custom DSDT tables to be loaded from initramfs [01:47] (changelog from .22-9 kernel. I don't need the feature, but I remember seeing a bug from people who do need it.) === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:51] Heh, I read telepathy-sofiasip as telepathy-sonofasip. === alex-weej [n=alex@cpc2-darl3-0-0-cust237.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === snax [n=snax@c-67-183-115-232.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === databuddy 111 [02:26] hey, what's that multi display tool called? === Stormx2 [n=Stormx2@host-87-240-137-127.hi-velocity.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === scotth [n=sjh@c-76-100-21-163.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === StarScream [n=am@ppp102-106.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:30] hey guys, running one of the daily builds for gutsy ppc. I'm a getting a /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off error on boot. Is this common and is there a known work around ? [02:31] i know ppc isn't supported but launchpad seems indicate this is not ppc specific [02:31] however it doesn't seem to list a fix in the threads that i found. === chrisbudden14 [n=chrisbud@dsl-dp-81-140-108-130.in-addr.broadbandscope.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === holzmodem [n=holzmode@dslb-084-060-226-155.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === defcon_ [n=defcon@71-223-76-54.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.77.122] has joined #ubuntu+1 === alex-weej [n=alex@cpc2-darl3-0-0-cust237.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rockets [n=rockets@ool-182d0529.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === holzmodem [n=holzmode@dslb-084-060-226-155.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:00] hi, every time i load a webpage with integrated flash with konqueror, the cpu load goes to 100% and konqueror hangs. it is the nspluginviewer. how can i solve it? [03:08] holzmodem: I think I'm having a similar issue... I'm running ubuntu gutsy x86_64, and whenever I interact with a flash object in Firefox, firefox freezes === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:09] WTF? In this game, alien-arena, my view immediately moves to pointing straight up, and won't go back down. [03:10] nspluginviewer is the problem [03:10] The fix is 'Why are you using 64-bit?' [03:10] firefox works great with flash, it konqueror [03:10] Oh, and sdl is absolutely devouring my CPU. === AnRkey [n=AnRkey@87-194-62-131.bethere.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:12] lol, firefox definitely doesn't work great with flash here :\ [03:13] Amaranth: so, if nspluginviewer is the problem, any solution minus ditching 64-bit? [03:13] Try gnash? :) [03:14] Argh. [03:14] :) [03:17] Oh, I see.... ALLLLLL mouse movements are being interpreted as moving up. [03:17] That's dumb. [03:17] Er, I mean, all vertical ones. [03:17] Horizontal still works. [03:19] Okay, so up is up+up, down is up, left is left+up, right is right+up. [03:23] For example, I can't turn in place unless I also press down at the same time. === flaccid [n=flaccid@dev.ionata.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rockets [n=rockets@pool-68-160-208-154.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:23] i would like to upgrade to gutsy [03:24] just update sources.list and dist-upgrade [03:24] or is there some guide === g2g591 [n=g2g591@fc-dyn-dsl-216.248.103.177.wctatel.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === g2g591 [n=g2g591@fc-dyn-dsl-216.248.103.177.wctatel.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === crdlb [n=crdlb@unaffiliated/crdlb] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:37] It's kinda' hard to play a game when you keep moving forward uncontrollably. === tehk [n=tehk@c-69-249-157-157.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:38] Is compiz working for anyone? [03:38] I get a segfault when I start it up with 'compiz --replace' === databuddy [n=starz@unaffiliated/databuddy] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Jimmy_ [n=Jimmy@h11n6c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === piao [n=piao@121.35.131.20] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:57] hi, is any body use xubuntu gutsy? [04:00] i found if you click show Desktop button and any task on taskbar again and again, then the desktop forzen === pschulz01 [n=pschulz0@ubuntu/member/pschulz01] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:03] any body here. [04:04] Greetings [04:05] yarr [04:06] I am attempting to run Gutsy up in VMware ESX server (64bit). Has anyone reported problems with this? I'm getting the following error - "Your CPU does not support long mode. Use a 32bit distribution" [04:06] I didn;t have any problem with the 64bit Feisty. === databuddy [n=starz@unaffiliated/databuddy] has joined #ubuntu+1 === teratoma [n=teratoma@twinlark.arctic.org] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:29] does compiz work in gutsy yet ? === Stormx2 [n=Stormx2@host-87-240-137-127.hi-velocity.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === theoros [n=theoros@unaffiliated/theoros] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Stormx2 [n=Stormx2@host-87-240-137-127.hi-velocity.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF1E22.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma- [n=e17@i156-171.nv.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === User748 [n=User@adsl-68-122-154-43.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:04] Hi is this channel for support? === claria [n=aem@dslb-084-057-176-139.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Stormx2 [n=Stormx2@host-87-240-137-127.hi-velocity.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === defcon [n=defcon@71-36-166-48.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sen3 [n=sen@18.163-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === databuddy [n=starz@unaffiliated/databuddy] has joined #ubuntu+1 === teratoma [n=teratoma@twinlark.arctic.org] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tehk [n=tehk@c-69-249-157-157.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jtt [n=jtholmes@adsl-065-006-144-253.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rockets [n=rockets@pool-68-160-208-154.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Tomcat_` [n=Tomcat@p54A1CC64.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === holzmodem [n=holzmode@dslb-084-060-226-155.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jgoss [n=josh@unaffiliated/jgoss] has joined #ubuntu+1 === AnRkey [n=AnRkey@87-194-62-131.bethere.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === TheGoodShepherd [n=lollersk@c-24-14-254-177.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Vuen [n=nick@bas9-ottawa23-1088837342.dsl.bell.ca] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === Sebastian [n=sb@p5088FAB7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === marek` [n=keram`@cpe-76-87-180-5.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:39] have anyone successfully used gps bluetooth hardware [06:39] with gutsy === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:48] WTF? All my animations have reset! [06:48] AAaaargh! [06:48] If I didn't know better, I'd think I was in Windows. [06:49] animations reset in windows? [06:49] no you're testing an alpha :) [06:49] what animations [06:49] In compiz-fusion. [06:49] I used to have certain animations set, and now it's all been reset. [06:49] its beta software [06:49] And now I can't figure out how to set it how it was, because names have been replaced with numbers. [06:50] I'd expect things to be broken (as in crashing or having missing symbols), but I wasn't expecting the _upstream_ compiz-fusion to break things so horribly. [06:50] upstream compiz-fusion is alpha too [06:50] id expect anything with non-prod software [06:51] But still, you'd think the creators would notice that "10" and "11" and "2" are NOT very good NAMES for animations. [06:51] And the guys behind fusion hardly have a reputation for not breaking things. [06:51] that's called a bug [06:51] At the very least, they should give a TABLE with mappings. [06:51] Well, that's what you get for using a git snapshot. [06:52] Is there anywhere to dig up the old deb? [06:54] you are using your bug is replicated by the devs [06:54] using=assuming [06:55] Oh, yes it is. [06:56] I wouldn't mind the resetting as much if I could figure out what it is now set to.... but the numbers are just cryptic. [06:56] Is there anywhere I can find a list mapping numbers to types? [06:56] it's a *bug* === MacSlow_ [n=mirco@dslb-084-063-112-116.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:01] Eeh, I'll just try all the numbers. [07:01] And test with buddy list in pidgin. [07:04] hmm [07:05] i'm starting to get worried about my hard drives. [07:05] ktorrent keeps reporting finished torrents getting corrupted data long after they're done [07:05] (i use xfs on my /home partition) [07:05] voidmage: i am sure they are worried about you too =) [07:05] voidmage: dmesg or tail -f /var/log/messages [07:05] see if its spitting I/O errors [07:06] if its broken, you might get lucky [07:06] otherwise i'd suggest backing stuff up soon :) [07:07] Jul 27 23:28:59 phoenix kernel: [ 49.164617] 00:08: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A [07:07] that's all i see [07:07] i'm thinking it's a weird thing in ktorrent [07:08] yeah, nothing showing up in dmesg in the last few minutes except for marks [07:09] Try a different app -- such as a Gnome torrent thingy, or Azureus, or even Torrent in Wine. === crdlb votes for rtorrent === stdin [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:22] Okay, now I have it set the way I like; however, Firefox makes its tooltips appear as type "Menu". [07:23] DanaG, workarounds plugin enabled? === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-59-116.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:23] Lemme check. [07:24] I can't find the plugin, actually. It's not visible in ccsm. [07:24] hmm must not be in your snapshot yet [07:25] I'm now using the official Gutsy version, since 3v1n0 versions broke things. === astro76 [n=james@unaffiliated/astro76] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:29] i've noticed something weird in kde, don't think it's compiz related [07:29] but firefox likes to steal focus and pop itself to the front === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-59-116.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:32] I've seen that too, it's strange actually because it doesn't gain focus (ie: the window isn't selected) but it pops up to the front [07:32] happens with kwin and compiz [07:32] ah [07:33] stdin: have you checked your kwin settings? [07:33] stdin: I had some mysterious Firefox related settings, "ignore focus stealing prevention" [07:34] Tm_T: let me have a look, I haven't touched the settings so I'll have a look === assasukasse [n=assasuka@n219079228143.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:36] stdin: kcontrol is your friend btw, that systemsettings is, well, weird a bit [07:36] Tm_T: it has focus stealing prevention set to "Force" "None" [07:37] what about in compiz though? [07:37] stdin: exactly, disavle that setting? [07:37] b [07:37] actually, it seems ok in compiz now, I hadn't used it in a while [07:38] disable that? [07:39] when it's disabled, the window is still risen, but now it doesn't get put on top of others [07:41] it also works if I change the "None" to anything else === compengi_ [n=compengi@77.42.180.203] has joined #ubuntu+1 === crackerbox [n=owner@74-135-34-212.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:57] hey guys [07:57] MrSno... are you here/alive? === marek` [n=keram`@cpe-76-87-180-5.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:59] in a script, what does <&3 refer to? [07:59] takes input from file descriptor number 3 === rockets [n=rockets@pool-68-160-208-154.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:00] printf "uname -r:\n" >&3 [08:00] and that? [08:00] that is the context [08:01] prints "iname -r:" and a new line to file descriptor number 3 [08:02] is file descriptor number 3 specified somewhere? [08:02] I think fd 3 is stderr, isn't it? [08:02] Or maybe stdin. [08:02] 0 is in, 1 is out, and 2 is err [08:02] iirc [08:03] fd0 is stdin fd1 is stdout and fd2 is stderr [08:03] Yeah, not thinknig right. === kekZpriester [n=luc@DSL01.83.171.183.182.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:03] Oh yay, aptitude is segfaulting. [08:03] can someone summerize what fd3 does? [08:04] nope, it could be anything, depends what is assigned to it [08:04] oh. [08:04] i think what im trying to do is not doable [08:04] Why are there never any changelogs for g++ and gcc and cpp and gij? [08:05] what are you trying to do? :p [08:05] use bash to set a variable equal to the name of the video card [08:05] LC_ALL=C lspci | grep 'VGA compatible controller:' >&3 [08:06] Oh, I see..... I had another Aptitude open at the "Press enter to continue". [08:06] use `` [08:06] LC_ALL=C lspci -n | grep 'Class 0300:' >&3 [08:06] or $() [08:06] $() is preferred; you can nest them :) [08:06] VIDCARD = $(lspci|grep 'VGA') [08:06] yeah :P === chand [n=rsamson@hoth.linagora.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:06] crackerbox: just redirect to /dev/null [08:07] in that case >&3 seems to do nothing much [08:08] I'd actually think the behavior would be undefined -- you might end up overwriting some other file opened by the process. [08:08] At least, I'd imagine such. [08:08] it would probably just fail === Xemanth [n=xemanth@hostf144.hamk.fi] has joined #Ubuntu+1 [08:08] arg [08:09] aargh [08:09] stdin@goten:~$ echo 1 >&3 [08:09] bash: 3: Bad file descriptor [08:09] i get same error [08:09] oh wait [08:09] i figured out why the corrupt data thing was coming up [08:10] i retagged it and ktorrent doesn't recognize it anymore [08:10] :P [08:13] ok here is what i get... when i type: [08:13] lspci | grep 'VGA compatible controller:' [08:14] i get: 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 6100 nForce 405 (rev a2) [08:15] isnt there a way to use something like " | sed -e 's/Serial Number: //' " to shorten the output? [08:18] what do you want the output to be? [08:18] GeForce 6100 [08:19] err that would be quite difficult [08:19] before i used this: [08:19] SERIAL0=$(cat /proc/scsi/usb-storage/* | grep Serial | sed -e 's/Serial Number: //') [08:19] Sed does regex, right :) [08:19] so tell me the serial number of my usb stick [08:19] so = to [08:21] what im trying to do would probably not be smiled upon [08:22] basically, the part in casper_bottom that configures x with "casper-reconfigure /root xserver-xorg" is blocking the automatic usage of nvidia or ati cards [08:23] Woah, I just crashed compiz by holding ctrl-alt-s. [08:23] try "|awk '{print $7" "$8}' " [08:23] crackerbox: ^ [08:24] so if i take that 20xconfig out of casper_bottom (which is in the initrd.gz of the gusty live CD) and use a pre existing xorg.conf file that specifically has the correct video card listed, and my video drivers are already installed into the liveCD's file system and kernel... the live CD works with full nvidia 3d support from boot.... [08:25] only problem is now i want to be able to expand it and allow it to use ati or detect intel GPUs if present [08:25] so the first step is detecting the video card, and then running the correct installation scripts [08:26] let me ask this... [08:26] isnt there a debconfig program that automatically sets up xorg.conf ?? [08:27] and can that be used to detect the video card and update the config file without user interaction? [08:27] crackerbox: if you want to detect the make first, use "lspci |grep VGA|grep Nvidia" to detect an nvidia cards, changing it to ATI and Intel to detect the others, then you can get more specific after [08:29] wtffff????? osssssssssomehooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwsloooooooowwwwwkeysss oooogotttttttte nnnnnnnnnnbaabllllllleeeeeeeddddddd [08:29] Do you want to activate Slow Keys? [08:30] what about "dpkg-reconfigure -fnoninteractive --no-reload "$package" [08:30] yyyyyyyyyyyyooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu kkkkkknnnnnowww, iiiiiiiitttttttt rrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeelaaaaaaaaaaallllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyy sssssssssohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhoooullllllddddddddnnnnnnnnnn'''''tttttttttt eeeeeeennnnnnnnnbbbaaaaaaabbbbbblllleeeeee iiiiiiiiittttttttt unless you tell it to activate it! [08:30] weird, some emerald theme i used is gone [08:31] stdin... should there be some quotes in that line you posted? [08:31] Try this: hold shift for a while, and watch as your keyboard seemingly breaks -- especially if you press escape. [08:32] crackerbox: just append everything inside the the quotes to the end, like: lspci | grep VGA | grep nVidia (the case of nVidia matters unless you use "grep -i nvidia" [08:32] wttttttttttffffffffff/////////////////////////////////////////????????????????????? === grumpymole [n=warren@c58-109-125-122.lowrp2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:35] when i do: "lspci | grep VGA | grep -i ati" i will get into trouble because it wants to output "compatible" which has ati in it [08:35] so don't use -i [08:35] crackerbox: the "ati" would be uppercase with ait cards [08:35] nice [08:36] crackerbox: or use -w with grep [08:36] crackerbox: like " lspci|grep VGA|grep -Ewo '(Intel|ATI|nVidia)' " [08:36] that should wither print "Intel", "ATI" or "nVidia" [08:36] dependind on the card [08:37] now thats good stuff === xstasi [n=xstasi@85-18-14-24.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:41] now the harder part is extracting the actual cards model number === Bubble [i=Bubble@unaffiliated/bubble] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:43] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/41427 [08:43] Launchpad bug 41427 in Ubuntu ""slow keys" can turn on surreptitiously & cause confusion." [Medium,Incomplete] [08:44] i think i will have to use grep and sed together [08:46] crackerbox: yeah, this works: " lspci | grep VGA|awk -F: '{print $3}'|sed 's/ [a-Z] * Corporation // ; s/(.*)//g' " at least for nvidia and intel [08:49] is there something like a grep / awk guide for dummies out there? [08:49] cause i would much rather learn to fish than be handed fish, you know [08:49] although that is some nice fish [08:49] thanks, btw [08:50] the advanced bash scripting guide is nice: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ [08:51] also: man awk , man sed , man grep. and #bash :p [08:51] it's quite a big subject and experimentation is the best way to learn it [08:55] thanks [08:58] do you know about "dpkg-reconfigure -fnoninteractive --no-reload xserver-xorg" ? === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-16-13.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:59] unfortuently, that just gives me "Identifier "Generic Video Card"" [08:59] in xorg.conf [09:00] i wonder what i need to do to have it automatically detect? [09:00] I don't know much about that [09:03] is there a way to add lines of text to a deb config (at a specific place) from bash? [09:04] in xorg.conf under the section: Section "Device" ... i would need to add the line: "Driver "nvidia"" === Hobbsee knows how to append it to the end of the file, and such. but not at a specific place. [09:05] i seem to recall something from casper_bottom... hold on [09:05] chroot /root debconf-communicate -fnoninteractive casper > /dev/null < set xserver-xorg/autodetect_keyboard true === asisak [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:07] FSET xserver-xorg/autodetect_video_card seen true [09:07] that might be the ticket right there [09:08] that is taken from this blog: http://worka.blogspot.com/2006/02/xorg-auto-configuration-in.html#links === compwiz18 [n=adam18@58.98.36.218] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:16] gah [09:16] what is it on the install cd's that autoboots>? [09:16] live? alternate? [09:19] oh i think this one is live [09:19] see [09:19] i got my hdd's on the cable on the mobo [09:19] and my opticals on the extension card - pci controller [09:19] problem is my bios doesnt see drives on the card [09:19] they can be used once booted but not till then. [09:19] now i managed to install grub in my thumbdrive - so thats good [09:19] and i can swap them eventually [09:20] but im not enterprizing enough atm - and i was kinda wondering how i could use my thumbdrive to boot the cd instead [09:20] neh? [09:20] [i wanna do an install] [09:20] is it the isolinux in the isolinux folder? [09:21] or can i just do a chainload for the cdrom? and if so can i define by device? [09:23] oo or in that install directory that sbm.bin - can i just move that to the grub dir somehow? [09:25] One thing funny on SuSE's isolinux: try pressing F8 on the boot menu. [09:26] Pixels start marching around to make the shape of the chameleon logo. [09:29] hmmm it looks like r-m (restricted manager) is doing some dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg magic [09:30] I'd love to see that funny effect with the Ubuntu logo on the Ubuntu isolinux. === sahin_w [n=KT@210.216.53.194] has joined #ubuntu+1 === databuddy [n=starz@unaffiliated/databuddy] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:43] can i call a py script from rcS? === [miles] [n=miles@bcn1.entorno.es] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:48] crackerbox: in theory why not? [09:49] however, if you don't want to run a "real" init script, /etc/rc.local is for user scripts === johnnybuoy [i=johnny@gateway/tor/x-f329ca623ddeb750] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:49] re johnnybuoy [09:50] re === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === databuddy [n=starz@unaffiliated/databuddy] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:53] im not running a user script [09:54] this script will automatically configure xserver-xorg in the liveCD to detect and enable restricted drivers automatically === jgoss [n=josh@unaffiliated/jgoss] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ccooke [n=ccooke@spc1-walt5-0-0-cust591.asfd.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === CodeImp [n=dont@s55910c2b.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === compengi__ [n=compengi@63-216-117-251.sdsl.cais.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Infecto_ [i=infecto@hydrozagadka.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === johnnybuoy_ [i=johnny@gateway/tor/x-b2361c5a4f7c689d] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Mo0oSaH [n=mo0osah@cpe-70-116-21-77.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === compengi [n=compengi@77.42.182.122] has joined #ubuntu+1 === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-0-203.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === databuddy [n=starz@unaffiliated/databuddy] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:43] gah [10:43] i cant get a cdrom to b0ot from grub ;_; [10:47] is that possible? [10:47] to boot cdrom from grub [10:48] ...why would you *want* to boot the cdrom from grub? [10:48] is it possible to boot usb stick from grub? :P [10:49] Xemanth: assuming all the required stuff was on the usb stick, yes. [10:50] hmm-m thats nice [10:51] and assuming that you had the correct grub config === acuster [n=acuster@86.210.251.254] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:55] Xemanth: yes [10:55] its possible to do both [10:55] but problem is grub doesnt see the device [10:56] i think i need to boot to stick_dos >> cd [10:56] b/c eventually im gonna swap em back [10:56] i only have one pata slot on my mobo and it doesnt see the disks connected via ide controller card so atm its rather borked === emonkey-p [n=emonkey@213.1.220.131] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:57] meh i just realized its like 4 hrs past my bedtime as im getting up in as many hrs +.5 [10:57] so im gonna go to bed. [10:57] but this is my project this week. [10:57] i may just have to put cdrom and hdd on same cable so i have SOME bootable cdrom and hdd at the same time. [10:57] which sux royally. [10:57] anyway ninie === Hobbsee wonders why not just run the cd from the bios - change the medium [10:59] like when normally installing ubuntu === defcon [n=defcon@71-36-166-48.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-101.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === _4strO [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-3-28.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:03] it.wont.see.it.right.now. === _4strO [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-3-28.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:03] bios limitation [11:03] whatever drives are connected to the card are invisible to the bios and thus to grub. [11:03] ah right [11:03] useful [11:03] wish it were that easy - would have had it going a week ago :P [11:04] also i need to figure if my hdd can support a third disk on the hdd rails - perhaps i could jsut get some sata drive and plug that into the mobo in the sata slot [11:04] then i would have another drive that everything could see. [11:05] but of course i actually have to find the cash to pay for that ~_~ [11:05] i wish there were a way to install to hdd without booting to the cd. [11:05] once linux is booted it sees all the drives tho =/ [11:05] gah ninie again === emonkey [n=emonkey@213.1.220.131] has joined #ubuntu+1 === emonkey [n=emonkey@213.1.220.131] has joined #ubuntu+1 === _4strO [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-3-28.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ameyer [i=ameyer17@isafailure.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 === afflux [i=fnord@pentabarf.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === compengi_ [n=compengi@63-216-114-28.sdsl.cais.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Infecto_ is now known as Infecto === eMaX_ [n=emax@237.49.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu+1 === linxeh [n=linx@88-96-202-38.dsl.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === chrisbudden14 [n=chrisbud@dsl-dp-81-140-108-130.in-addr.broadbandscope.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === johnnybuoy [i=johnny@gateway/tor/x-cc238973228ddeeb] has joined #ubuntu+1 === defcon [n=defcon@71-36-166-48.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Catsceo [n=RULER@pool-96-228-140-80.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] === fiveiron [n=fiveiron@74-137-162-129.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === emonkey [n=emonkey@213.1.220.131] has joined #ubuntu+1 === defcon [n=defcon@71-36-166-48.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mrsno__ [n=mrsno@cpc3-blfs6-0-0-cust294.belf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === _dennis_ [n=dennis@78-20-176-140.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === udienzMahyuddin [n=cb82f4ce@www.gamenavigator.ru] has joined #ubuntu+1 === defcon [n=defcon@71-36-166-48.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === johnnybuoy [i=johnny@gateway/tor/x-d92a12e92c6b9cb0] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:48] this may be a dumb question but I just did a dist-upgrade and tcpdump was upgraded. what I dont understand is why was http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main tcpdump 3.9.5-2ubuntu1 [303kB] used ( feisty repo ) ? [01:48] yes I am running gutsy === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:51] IdleOne: Are you sure that all your /etc/apt/sources.list entries are gutsy? [01:52] Pici, I havent checked [01:52] lemme look [01:52] IdleOne: And apt-cache policy tcpdump doesnt look weird === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:53] sources.list is all feist but I do have a deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Alpha i386 (20070718.1)] / gutsy main restricted in there also. [01:54] feisty* [01:54] guess I'll delete the cd deb and change all the fiesty to gutsy [01:55] Hm.. You upgraded with the CD and it left your sources.list at feisty level.. [01:55] yup [01:55] seems so [01:55] apt-cache output [01:55] tcpdump: [01:55] Installed: 3.9.5-2ubuntu1 [01:55] Candidate: 3.9.5-2ubuntu1 [01:55] Version table: [01:55] *** 3.9.5-2ubuntu1 0 [01:55] 500 http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main Packages [01:55] 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status [01:55] 3.9.5-2 0 [01:55] 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Packages [01:56] 500 cdrom://Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Alpha i386 (20070718.1) gutsy/main Packages === OSUKid7 [n=OSUKid7@acm.bw.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === afflux [i=fnord@pentabarf.de] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === ke- [n=kenneth@port272.ds1-aboes.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:00] wow changing the repos to gutsy made a big difference. [02:00] 321 packages upgraded, 44 newly installed, 9 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [02:00] why did the upgrade from CD change sources.list ? [02:00] didnt [02:02] well upgrade in progress guess I'll go take a shower === defcon [n=defcon@71-36-166-48.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:09] IdleOne: file a bug === ccooke [n=ccooke@spc1-walt5-0-0-cust591.asfd.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === vlowther [n=vlowther@adsl-75-55-115-198.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === defcon [n=defcon@71-36-166-48.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === dendrobate1 [n=rclark@adsl-065-005-186-012.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === dendrobate1 [n=rclark@adsl-065-005-186-012.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [02:30] Amaranth, will doo [02:30] do* === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:37] Amaranth, bug 129410 [02:38] Bug 129410 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/129410 is private === sahin_w [n=KT@210.216.53.194] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:38] IdleOne: I have no idea how you managed to file a bug I can't see [02:38] I'm in the qa team, these things are supposed to be open to me :) [02:39] Amaranth, beats me but it is set private for some reason [02:39] set it public [02:39] k === borg_ [n=olaf@80.149.17.21] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Hobbsee looks at it [02:40] oh waht? === coNP is not allowed... [02:41] it's forbidden for me too? === linxeh [n=linx@88-96-202-38.dsl.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:42] IdleOne: you filed that, for ubuntu? [02:42] yes [02:42] er, under ubuntu? [02:42] how do I set it public now? [02:43] see the actions panel === Hobbsee has asked on #launchpad too, but no response [02:44] try now [02:44] bug 129410 [02:44] Launchpad bug 129410 in Ubuntu "Gutsy upgrade from CD not upgrading sources.list" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129410 [02:44] you did it, IdleOne :) [02:44] I gotta run. have a good day folks [02:44] coNP, I surpirse myself sometimes :P [02:44] surprise also [02:44] bye, IdleOne === Hobbsee wonders how that's a security vuln? [02:47] IdleOne: you havent mentioned how you did the dist upgrade, hwo you added the cd to sources list, etc..... === defcon [n=defcon@71-36-166-48.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma- [n=e17@i156-171.nv.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:47] IdleOne: i suggest you fix those kind of things before i hit it with the incomplete stick [02:47] and of course, learning how to spell feisty is always useful, too.. [02:48] I am a bit afraid this is not a bug, but a feature. [02:48] Since I am not sure, dist-upgrade is supposed to edit sources.list [02:48] (In contrast to update-manager) [02:49] coNP: I thought he ran the autoupdate thing that pops up when you stick in an ubuntu cd [02:49] The only thing mentioned is that he used Synaptic. === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu+1 === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === humbolto [n=elias@81.5.202.185] has joined #ubuntu+1 === alex-weej [n=alex@cpc2-darl3-0-0-cust237.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === merhojt [n=Jimmy@h42n4c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu+1 === compwiz18 [n=adam18@218.106.187.10] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:15] anyone using xchat? the notification bubble for messages doesn't seem to work here === coNP is === asisak [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:17] mc44: sure, you are right. [03:18] asisak: doesn't work for you either? [03:18] mc44: can you send me a private message to test this? [03:19] hmm, maybe a restart is needed === asisak [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:20] I get an error about notify-send, but libnotify looks to be installed [03:20] (1) libnotify-bin needs to be installed [03:20] (2) it does not seem to work :( [03:21] notification daemon is segfaulting [03:21] that's why it doesn't work [03:21] no notifications work [03:21] thanks, alex-weej [03:22] aha [03:22] I'll fix xchat, though [03:22] :) === mc44 hugs asisak [03:22] to depend on libnotify-bin [03:22] i don't think you CAN fix xchat, it's doing eveyrthing right === asisak hugs alex-weej, mc44 [03:22] alex-weej: it needs to depend on the binary [03:22] is the notification plugin not built against libnotify? [03:23] the "on-screen display" one [03:23] I guess it is not a plugin any more [03:24] mc44: do you want to file a bug? :) [03:24] asisak: I have to er.. run now :p [03:24] okay === praecox [i=mati73@borowiak.pl] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:25] hello guys [03:25] anyone here got an experience with Compiz Fusion on Kubuntu Gutsy (7.10)? === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.75.239] has joined #ubuntu+1 === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@208.68.49.172] has joined #ubuntu+1 === CarlF1 [n=carl@c-24-13-10-89.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF237E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ICU [n=me@sechzig.dd.ewetel.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === pace_t_zulu [n=jhaitas@A230192.N1.Vanderbilt.Edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === alex-weej [n=alex@cpc2-darl3-0-0-cust237.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === valehru [n=valehru@221.221.131.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 === miranda_-_ [n=miranda@62-30-164-23.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Sebastian [n=sb@p5088EE70.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sen3 [n=sen@18.163-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tfreire [n=tfreire@201.47.208.154.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mrigns [n=mrigns@unaffiliated/mrigns] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mike [n=mike@adsl-074-236-242-009.sip.bgk.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === borg__ [n=olaf@80.149.17.21] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.75.239] has joined #ubuntu+1 === compengi__ [n=compengi@77.42.178.19] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:45] alex-weej: do you know why notification segfaults? [04:46] asisak: no, haven't had time to figure it out [04:46] okay [04:47] actually that's a lie [04:47] i had a quick look [04:47] the problem is in the ubuntu theme so [04:48] if you change your gconf /apps/notification-daemon/theme from "ubuntu" to "" it will start working again [04:49] alex-weej: you are righty right, thanks [04:50] btw it is fixed [04:50] really? [04:50] mvo did an update [04:50] is it in the archives yet? [04:50] only the source is uploaded now [04:50] ok [04:50] bug 127925 [04:51] Launchpad bug 127925 in notification-daemon "notification-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in move_notification()" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127925 === Tomcat_ [n=Tomcat@p54A1D291.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:52] ah [04:52] new tooltips [04:52] :@ [04:52] too dark [04:52]