[12:46] <OpenLaunchpadsou> hi
[01:30] <mpt_> Goooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!
[01:31] <kblin> whatever
[01:58] <OpenLaunchpadSrc> hi
[01:58] <OpenLaunchpadSrc> and bye :)
[03:06] <tjs> statik: G'day, I had a question about the fee-for-service aspect of LP, and was told you are the person to speak to 
[03:07] <tjs> I was wondering how the translations stuff will work, and if there will be any facility to request translations in various languages for money from translators etc.
[03:08] <tjs> The project I'm working on atm needs to be translated into a few languages and I thought that LP might be an option, I had heard about the commercial version a while ago
[03:10] <kiko> tjs, it's definitely a possibility
[03:12] <tjs> kiko: how would you see a system like that work? commercial users could request a translation for an app, and put up a bounty or something? translators would be able to be rated on their previous translations?
[03:13] <tjs> s/work/working
[03:14] <kiko> it could be done via a bounty, but it could also be done through a straight contract where we provided both translators and QA
[03:14] <kiko> it's a matter of talking over the specific needs you have
[03:14] <tjs> that would be cool
[03:15] <tjs> I'll have a chat with the guys today at lunch about the idea, I'm all for getting this place onto LP :) esp if this translations stuff works out
[03:15] <tjs> kiko: who should I chat with at canonical?
[03:16] <kiko> tjs, statik is the correct first point of contact; I'll talk to him after you've done the initial discussion
[03:16] <tjs> ok, cheers
[03:17] <kiko> tjs, write to elliot@canonical.com
[03:18] <tjs> ok
[03:23] <Vorian> aloha
[03:23] <Vorian> is it preferred to have teams set ups as <project><country><state/city/Provence if applicable>?
[03:40] <mpt> unclesam, teams for what?
[03:41] <Vorian> mpt, bot
[03:42] <Vorian> for the US loco teams
[03:42] <Vorian> :)
[03:51] <viridari> I am having a problem setting up my launchpad profile and I'm wondering if this is common.  I'm trying to add my ssh2 public key and launchpad tells me "Invalid public key"
[03:51] <viridari> but it is definitely a valid public key as I have been using it for years
[03:52] <spiv> viridari: not common, no.
[03:54] <spiv> viridari: are you sure you're pasting it as a single line?
[03:54] <viridari> I am just doing a "cat ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub", highlight the output to the end of the last character, and paste with a middle-click.  I'm not catching the newline at the end.
[03:55] <spiv> Hmm.
[03:57] <spiv> viridari: what terminal do you use?
[03:57] <viridari> likewise I can paste the output of "ssh-keygen -y" and get the same result
[03:57] <viridari> konsole
[03:57] <viridari> it appears to be one line with a single wrap between "ssh-dss" (space) and the rest of the key
[03:58] <spiv> Hmm, I don't have that installed to test with.
[03:58] <spiv> But that does sound correct.
[03:58] <spiv> And a comment on the end of the key?
[03:58] <spiv> (e.g. "user@hostname")
[03:58] <viridari> I just did the same thing copy/paste from xterm...
[03:59] <viridari> (same result)
[03:59] <viridari> there is no comment on the end of the key
[03:59] <spiv> Maybe that's the problem?
[03:59] <viridari> because I can come from a number of hosts
[03:59] <spiv> Sure, the comment can be anything you like :)
[03:59] <spiv> I suspect this is the bug, though.
[03:59] <viridari> ahhhhh
[03:59] <viridari> yes
[04:00] <viridari> it expects a comment, though the openssh public key spec does not require one
[04:00] <spiv> Because I'm pretty sure Launchpad just takes the line, splits it into three pieces (type, key, comment), and records that.
[04:00] <viridari> but that worked
[04:00] <viridari> thanks :)
[04:00] <spiv> viridari: please file a bug :)
[04:00] <spiv> viridari: thanks for your patience!
[04:00] <viridari> checking to see if there is a known bug...
[04:01] <viridari> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/60601 <- old bug
[04:01] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 60601 in launchpad "Add an ssh key should allow adding a key without comments" [Low,Confirmed]  
[04:03] <spiv> Ah :(
[04:03] <spiv> viridari: thanks
[04:04] <viridari> ha you and I both updated this bug seconds apart from each other
[04:05] <spiv> :)
[04:48] <Amaranth> is it possible to reset a ppa?
[04:49] <Amaranth> i accidentally uploaded something for gutsy instead of feisty and i'd like to remove it
[09:03] <superm1> Amaranth, as I discovered earlier no there isn't
[09:03] <superm1> cprov has to do it by hand in a very manual fashion
[09:03] <Amaranth> oh well, i can live with two gutsy compiz builds in my repo
[09:08] <carlos> morning
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #129647 in launchpad "Can't tell when someone was last active in Launchpad" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129647
[11:10] <soren> If I change my password, will my cookie expire?
[11:10] <soren> Well.. not expire, but be invalidated?
[11:19] <jtv> soren: try on demo.launchpad.net?
[11:21] <soren> It seems it doesn't.
[11:21] <soren> Eeek.
[11:21] <jtv> Oh, did you log in from a public machine?
[11:29] <soren> jtv: No, I just contemplated what would happen if I did. :)
[11:30] <soren> jtv: Bug filed..
[11:31] <soren> Bug 129650
[11:31] <ubotu> Bug 129650 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/129650 is private
[11:31] <soren> Oh, right.
[11:34] <mwhudson> #115404 is rather different, i think
[12:14] <cprov> good morning !
[12:18] <soren> mwhudson: Alright. It just spoke of a secret being changed, and I didn't know if that was the password or whatever.
[12:19] <mwhudson> no
[12:19] <mwhudson> er
[12:19] <mwhudson> i think that's more secret as in public and private/secret keys 
[12:20] <soren> right. 
[12:20] <soren> I assume it's something shared across all of Launchpad used in generating session keys or something?
[12:20] <soren> Blah, doesn't matter.
[12:29] <mwhudson> i don't really know either :)
[12:30] <ubotu> New bug: #129658 in blueprint "Misaligned 'summary' field when registering a blueprint." [Low,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129658
[12:36] <intellectronica> jsk-afk: bloody table-based layout :)
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #129682 in launchpad-bazaar "some upload branches fail to be mirrored promptly" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129682
[02:45] <ubotu> New bug: #129690 in malone "Private/security bug mail should be encrypted" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129690
[02:45] <ubotu> New bug: #129692 in malone "Launchpad should accept encrypted e-mail" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129692
[03:11] <atoponce> a launchpad admin around to help with a request?
[03:13] <atoponce> basically, https://launchpad.net/~california.team says the owner is Mark Nielson, but this is no longer the case
[03:14] <atoponce> the team owner is Neal Bussett now. how can we make the change to reflect that?
[03:19] <carlos> atoponce: Mark Nielsen should be able to do it
[03:19] <atoponce> carlos: he's awol
[03:19] <atoponce> he dropped the team, and has been unable to contact for several months
[03:20] <atoponce> all emails go unanswered
[03:20] <carlos> atoponce: the right procedure then is to send him an email explaining what are you going to do
[03:20] <atoponce> we have
[03:20] <atoponce> several
[03:20] <carlos> ok
[03:21] <carlos> then, open a ticket on answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[03:21] <carlos> requesting the ownership change
[03:21] <atoponce> we were able to get neal admin rights to the lp account, now we just want to change the name field
[03:21] <carlos> explaining that you already tried to contact him without luck
[03:21] <carlos> atoponce: if he's just the admin
[03:22] <carlos> he cannot change who owns the team
[03:22] <carlos> only current owner or an admin is able to do it, that's why you need to open a ticket
[03:22] <atoponce> ok
[03:23] <atoponce> if his status is 'Administrator', he can change it?
[03:23] <carlos> no
[03:23] <atoponce> ok
[03:23] <carlos> only if he's also the owner
[03:23] <atoponce> oh. i see
[03:23] <carlos> which is not the case :-)
[03:24] <atoponce> i'll file a ticket
[03:24] <atoponce> right
[03:28] <Hobbsee> greetings all - if we have a user who is continually not following the rules, and is therefore abusing launchpad and ubuntu development (and the corresponding developers), what can we do?
[03:28] <Hobbsee> is there any way that we can lock launchpad accounts so that the user cant file more bugs, before taking it to the CC?
[03:29] <Hobbsee> would that be the most appropriate way to go?
[03:29] <Kmos> that's for me
[03:29] <Kmos> :)
[03:29] <carlos> Hobbsee: file a ticket on answers.launchpad.net/launchpad explaining the issue with links to the abuse he did on Launchpad
[03:30] <Kmos> carlos: I do excess of contributions to ubuntu..
[03:30] <carlos> so admins could get some arguments to disable the account or at least contact him to see what's going on
[03:30] <carlos> Hobbsee: for Ubuntu, you need to talk with the CC
[03:31] <carlos> Kmos: excess contributions is not a bad thing and I don't see your name in this request, so I don't know why it's about you...
[03:31] <Hobbsee> carlos: right.  the user in question is Kmos.  he's been asked repeateldy to stop filing mass bugs, most of which are either incorrect, or needless, and monopolising people's time, etc, etc, etc.  you can see the ticket if you're interested in the detail.
[03:31] <carlos> ok, the name is there now ;-)
[03:32] <carlos> Hobbsee: I'm not the one that will disable any account (I don't have such rights)
[03:32] <carlos> Hobbsee: did you file it?
[03:32] <Hobbsee> carlos: true, but you are a LP people, and so therefore understand the limitations of launchpad
[03:32] <ScottK> Not to mention subscribing the archive admins to random backports bugs and then harassing them when he has no rights to do so.
[03:32] <Kmos> carlos: but it's about me
[03:32] <Hobbsee> carlos: no, i'll have to grab the logs and such.  i'd really prefer not to file it myself anyway, so as to not be accused of going on a witch hunt
[03:32] <carlos> Hobbsee: sure, we have a way to disable accounts if that's what you need to know
[03:33] <Hobbsee> er, s/people/person/
[03:33] <Hobbsee> carlos: cool, thanks
[03:34] <carlos> Hobbsee: well, the best one to file it is someone that is involved in the issue
[03:34] <carlos> anyway, first thing to do is to talk with CC
[03:34] <Hobbsee> carlos: there are plenty of them.  :)
[03:34] <Hobbsee> carlos: okay
[03:34] <carlos> if the abuse is only related with Ubuntu, they should be the ones asking us to do that
[03:35] <carlos> we just provide the service
[03:35] <Hobbsee> carlos: i just dont want another few batches of 30 bugs filed in the meantime.  although presumably you can zap all the bugs, if you disable a user account?
[03:35] <Hobbsee> carlos: i can understand that
[03:36] <carlos> Hobbsee: zap?
[03:36] <kiko-zzz> Hobbsee, who's doing this?
[03:36] <ScottK> kmos
[03:36] <Kmos> kiko-zzz: me.. the LP killer
[03:36] <Hobbsee> carlos: zap.  get rid of.  mark as invalid.
[03:36] <carlos> Hobbsee: I guess we could, yes
[03:36] <Hobbsee> carlos: right, great
[03:36] <carlos> Kmos: I wonder whether you agree that you are doing something wrong
[03:37] <Hobbsee> heya kiko-zzz.  what ScottK said
[03:37] <carlos> Kmos: if that's the case... why?
[03:37] <Kmos> carlos: i've done, it's past
[03:37] <carlos> ok
[03:37] <Kmos> but Hobbsee insist that i do bad things
[03:37] <Kmos> ONLY bad things
[03:37] <Kmos> and I don't read what they say
[03:37] <Kmos> kiko-zzz: quer-me linchar e no sabe como..
[03:38] <Kmos> kiko-zzz: enfim.. parece k n vale a pena contribuir pro ubuntu
[03:38] <carlos> really, I don't think we should decide this, but CC, which is the one that should solve this issue
[03:38] <ScottK> I've got kmos on ignore because I've just had it and want to avoid a CoC violation by me, but for me the straw that broke the camels back was subscribing the archive admins to backports bugs and then harassing them to do the backport via IRC when he is not a backporter and has no authority to approve  them.
[03:39] <kiko> ScottK, Hobbsee: I suggest you take this to the CoC.
[03:40] <ScottK> We will.  The question is damage limitation in the meantime.
[03:41] <kiko> this is a matter I would really prefer we stayed away from
[03:41] <carlos> ScottK: the problem is that we are not the ones to decide it, if for some reason CC decides that Kmos is not doing anything wrong, we would have disabled an account without having to
[03:41] <Hobbsee> kiko: speaking to jono now.  i was more asking if it was possible, how hard it was to do, etc.
[03:41] <Hobbsee> carlos: ^
[03:41] <Hobbsee> and what the protocol for doing it was
[03:42] <carlos> as already said, if we really need to 'fix' things in Launchpad later, we could figure a way to do it, don't worry about it and try to get it handled by CC as soon as possible
[03:42] <carlos> Hobbsee: ok
[03:43] <carlos> almost anything could be done, which could be easy or hard, but if it's a must, we will end doing it
[03:43] <carlos> so don't worry about it
[03:45] <carlos> Kmos: also, I think you have a conflict here, so before leaving Ubuntu, I think you should also talk with CC about the problem from your point of view.
[03:45] <carlos> I don't know who's right but I think is not the first time I hear about this so I would recommend that you try to get it solved as soon as possible and keep working
[03:46] <Kmos> carlos: i'm talking to jono
[03:46] <carlos> cool, thanks
[04:01] <BjornT> it's time for this week's non-au reviewer meeting
[04:01] <BjornT> == Agenda ==
[04:01] <BjornT>  * Roll call
[04:01] <BjornT>  * Next meeting
[04:01] <BjornT>  * Queue status
[04:01] <BjornT> who's here?
[04:01] <barry> me
[04:02] <salgado> me
[04:02] <bac> me
[04:02] <BjornT> statik: ping
[04:03] <statik> me
[04:04] <BjornT> == Next meeting ==
[04:04] <BjornT> next meeting will be 2007-08-08, at 1400 UTC as usual
[04:04] <BjornT> == Queue status ==
[04:05] <BjornT> there are 17 open reviews in the queue, 9 of them are over the 2-day service target.
[04:05] <BjornT> kiko: you have a couple of reviews in your queue - will you get to them soon?
[04:07] <BjornT> salgado, statik, barry: you have a few old ones in your queues as well
[04:07] <statik> BjornT: yes, I see I have one that is marked as 6 days old, I think it was assigned on friday while I was on leave
[04:07] <statik> I'll be sure to work on reviews today
[04:07] <salgado> yeah, I'll do them today for sure
[04:07] <barry> urg, that didn't really work, but yes, i'm trying to clear out my queue today
[04:07] <kiko> BjornT, yeah, I can do them today
[04:08] <BjornT> we're only in the beginning of the cycle, so we need to keep the queue under control, so that week 3 won't be too painful
[04:08] <kiko> sure thing.
[04:09] <BjornT> == Other business ==
[04:09] <BjornT> a
[04:09] <BjornT> anything else?
[04:10] <BjornT> 3
[04:10] <BjornT> 2
[04:10] <statik> i few weeks back I mentioned playing with review-board, I haven't had any time to continue that work, but I haven't forgotten about it
[04:10] <BjornT> 1
[04:10] <statik> (it was a personal project, but a few people here expressed interest)
[04:11] <BjornT> ok, short meeting today, thanks for coming!
[04:11] <barry> thanks BjornT
[04:11] <statik> thanks BjornT
[04:11] <bac> yeah, thanks BjornT 
[04:42] <ondrej> cprov: hi, so Matthew has added me to the launchpad beta testers,  https://launchpad.net/~ondrej-certik, could you please enable the ppa for me on dogfood?
[04:43] <cprov> ondrej: ok, one minute
[04:46] <Kmos> cprov: I need to be member of launchpad beta testers on dogfood or the current launchpad ?
[04:46] <kiko> Kmos, on dogfood.
[04:46] <Kmos> to have access to PPA
[04:46] <Kmos> kiko: ah ok
[04:48] <Kmos>  You are an active member of this team already.
[04:49] <ondrej> I am kind of confused which one - I used to be a member on dogfood, but cprov told me that I need to be at the regular launchpad as well
[04:51] <cprov> ondrej: kiko is not aware of the change we made in the PPA-beta workflow last week. the right thing to is to follow the registration steps from PPAQuickStart in production and then request propagation of your data to dogfood. (as I told you yesterday)
[04:53] <kiko> sorry :)
[04:54] <superm1> Amaranth, as I discovered earlier no there isn't
[04:57] <kblin> hm, some launchpad features look quite ubuntu-centric :)
[04:58] <cprov> ondrej: go for it -> https://dogfood.launchpad.net/~ondrej-certik
[04:59] <ondrej> cprov: thanks a lot, it seems to work
[04:59] <cprov> ondrej: great.
[04:59] <ondrej> cprov: just a quick questions - bugs should be reported to the launchpad mailinglist?
[05:01] <cprov> ondrej: bugs should be reported in launchpad (product 'soyuz' and tag 'ppa'), questions and discussions should happen and launchpad-users@ ML.
[05:02] <ondrej> cprov: I see, thanks a lot
[05:02] <cprov> ondrej: np
[05:03] <Amaranth> superm1: ?
 shows that Launchpad is polling CVS at ":pserver:anonymous@cvs.elinks.or.cz:/var/cvs/elinks".  ELinks switched to Git on 2005-09-16 and has no CVS activity nowadays.  Can Launchpad be set to poll Git instead? 
[05:42] <mwhudson> unfortunately, no
[05:42] <mwhudson> or at least, not yet
[05:42] <paakku> How about removing the upstream version control connection then?
[05:42] <paakku> As it is, it'll just confuse users, I think.
[05:43] <mwhudson> it can be stopped, i guess
[05:43] <paakku> There is also the upstream bug tracker http://bugzilla.elinks.cz/ which Launchpad does not know about, should I mail feedback@ about that?
[05:44] <mwhudson> i'm not actually sure what the process is for adding a new bug tracker
[05:44] <mwhudson> BjornT: ^ ?
[05:46] <ubotu> New bug: #129727 in malone "Offering to Mentor bugfix does not set appropriate default group" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129727
[05:46] <mwhudson> paakku: the elinks import is stopped now
[05:47] <paakku> I'll send the email
[05:47] <matsubara> paakku: https://launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers
[05:49] <paakku> matsubara: Aha, thanks.  <https://launchpad.net/elinks/+filebug> says "Launchpad doesn't know what bug tracker elinks uses. Do you know? Tell us about it." and has a mailto: link; perhaps that should be changed to link to that page as well.
[05:50] <paakku> Although, the bugtrackers page doesn't seem to have any way to associate bug trackers with projects?
[05:50] <matsubara> paakku: after registering it, I can associate the external bug tracker to the elinks project in launchpad.
[05:52] <matsubara> paakku: bug 4592
[05:52] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 4592 in malone "Easier bugtracker registration workflow." [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4592 - Assigned to Tom Berger (intellectronica)
[05:54] <tonyyarusso> Hey all, here today to poke and prod someone in the direction of Bug #6615 on behalf of #ubuntu-minnesota.
[05:54] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 6615 in xpenguins-applet "pannel doesn't load in the upper pannel" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6615
[05:54] <tonyyarusso> err, wait a second - Bug #66105 rather.
[05:54] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 66105 in launchpad "Team admin can't contact prospective member who hides e-mail addresses" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/66105
[05:54] <tonyyarusso> There.
[05:56] <paakku> matsubara: I'll ask the maintainer of the serve rfor permission to put his address in Contact details.
[05:56] <matsubara> paakku: sure thing. let me know later when the external bug tracker is registered and I'll finish the association.
[06:20] <paakku> matsubara: It's there now, "elinks-bugzilla"
[06:25] <matsubara> paakku: thanks. just associated it with the elinks project in LP https://launchpad.net/elinks
[06:30] <paakku> matsubara: OK, looks good.
[06:32] <paakku> I was also wondering why <https://launchpad.net/elinks/+distributions> lists only Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary) although <https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/dapper/+source/elinks/> and <https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/edgy/+source/elinks/> have newer versions.
[07:00] <paulvg> wow that was quick maintenance =)
[08:15] <ubotu> New bug: #129757 in launchpad "Applied for membership date is wrong for former members of teams" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129757
[09:20] <ubotu> New bug: #129778 in launchpad "bad coloring in milestone page" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129778
[09:33] <bdmurray> How does launchpad become aware of a new bug tracker?
[09:34] <bdmurray> I got this "Launchpad doesn't know what kind of bug tracker this URL is pointing at." message when trying to link a bug upstream.
[09:34] <matsubara> bdmurray: register it in: launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers
[09:38] <bdmurray> matsubara: Hrm. What type of bug tracker is savannah.gnu.org though?  It says powered by savane and that doesn't seem to be known.
[09:38] <matsubara> bdmurray: it's a non supported one. sorry :(
[09:39] <LarstiQ> that's close to gforge
[09:39] <matsubara> bdmurray: bug 45386
[09:39] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 45386 in malone "Add GNU savannah to the remote bug watches" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/45386
[09:40] <bdmurray> matsubara: thanks, I just saw that
[09:42] <bdmurray> matsubara: speaking of linking upstream . . . I was trying to link bug 84026 to a bugzilla.kernel.org bug and had some trouble if you have moment.
[09:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 84026 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Frequency scaling unavailable on Woodcrest CPU, Feisty Herd 3" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/84026 - Assigned to Ubuntu Kernel Team (ubuntu-kernel-team)
[09:43] <matsubara> bdmurray: what's up?
[09:44] <bdmurray> Well, I click on also affects upstream and says to select the appropriate upstream project and based off the bugtrackers page I would think it is Linux Kernel BUg Tracker.
[09:45] <bdmurray> Hrm, I swear this didn't work out the way I thought it should last week.
[09:47] <bdmurray> matsubara: I was able to link that bug in particular but I am unsure of what to do here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+edit-packaging
[09:47] <matsubara> was the page oopsing or returning some kind of error message?
[09:47] <bdmurray> No I think I was just having a hard time searching for "linux"
[09:49] <bdmurray> And to avoid that there should be a link between linux-source-2.6.22 and the upstream bug tracker which is the purpose of defining the upstream link page right?
[09:51] <matsubara> I'm not sure I understand what you asked
[09:53] <matsubara> AFAICT the packaging information is used when you add an upstream task to a distribution task. that way launchpad already knows which upstream that package is related to.
[09:53] <bdmurray> My new question is what do I here at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+edit-packaging
[09:53] <matsubara> linux/main or linux/trunk
[09:53] <matsubara> does that work?
[09:55] <bdmurray> linux/main returned an invalid seris
[09:55] <bdmurray> s/seris/series/
[09:55] <bdmurray> searching for linux shows linux/2.6.12 and linux/2.6.15
[09:56] <bdmurray> but nothing past edgy
[09:57] <matsubara> bdmurray: you'll need to add a new product series to the linux upstream project in launchpad (https://launchpad.net/linux/+addseries) and then link to that series
[09:59] <bdmurray> matsubara: is this supposed to happen automatically from the packaging information or something?
[09:59] <mdke> carlos: some of the imports have started coming through slowly :)
[09:59] <carlos> mdke: yeah, finally...
[09:59] <mdke> carlos: :)
[09:59] <carlos> mdke: I had to disable some oo.org imports
[09:59] <mdke> I had no idea there was a Klingon translation of Ubuntu
[09:59] <carlos> to speed the queue
[10:00] <carlos> mdke: :-P
[10:00] <bdmurray> mdke: There is? Man, that was going to be my great idea.
[10:00] <mdke> carlos: however, I've only had 27 emails, and I was expecting about 200; I guess they don't all get done in order?
[10:00] <matsubara> bdmurray: tbh, I don't know.
[10:00] <carlos> we do it in order, yes
[10:01] <carlos> mdke: did you upload all them at the same time?
[10:01] <bdmurray> matsubara: okay, does mailing launchpad-users seem like the best idea then?
[10:01] <mdke> carlos: not exactly, but I uploaded all the po files for each template at the same time (inside a tarball) and I'm not getting emails for all the languages of each template
[10:02] <carlos> mdke: well, I expect you get them now
[10:02] <carlos> except for...
[10:02] <matsubara> bdmurray: also, it'd be nice if you could ask someone from the kernel team to set in: https://launchpad.net/linux/+launchpad the external kernel bugtracker
[10:03] <carlos> mdke: in the email contents, when does it say you upload the file?
[10:03] <carlos> mdke: we have a 'feature' that old failed files keep the original timestamp instead of when the latest import happen
[10:04] <carlos> so maybe is just that you got first entries that in previous import failed andthe rest will come later
[10:04] <matsubara> salgado: can you answer some bdmurray's question about how the packaging information in Launchpad is supposed to work? 
[10:04] <mdke> carlos: "On 2007-07-29 12:00+0000 (3 days 5 hours 45 minutes ago)"
[10:04] <carlos> which makes sense
[10:04] <mdke> carlos: all the pot files seem to have been done (they were also inside the tarballs)
[10:04] <carlos> so that's not the case
[10:04] <carlos> and you should get all other emails shortly
[10:05] <mdke> ok, I'll wait a few hours
[10:05] <mdke> I haven't had any emails for 2 hours though
[10:05] <carlos> mdke: hmm
[10:05] <salgado> matsubara, bdmurray, AFAIK the links have to be made manually.  I may be able to answer more specific questions, if you ask them though
[10:06] <carlos> mdke: did you get any email about the .po files?
[10:06] <carlos> or just .pot files?
[10:06] <mdke> carlos: I've had a few emails about individual po files, but not that many
[10:06] <carlos> mdke: from .po files inside that same tarball?
[10:06] <mdke> carlos: yes
[10:07] <carlos> hmm, don't know then...
[10:07] <mdke> carlos: would it help for you to have examples?
[10:07] <carlos> If you don't get all confirmation emails later today, please ping me and I will take a look
[10:07] <carlos> mdke: no, don't worry
[10:07] <mdke> carlos: ok, thanks
[10:07] <carlos> mdke: are we talking about Feisty?
[10:08] <mdke> carlos: yes
[10:08] <carlos> hmm
[10:08] <carlos> then the files are already imported
[10:08] <carlos> but for some reason you didn't get the emails yet
[10:09] <mdke> do I get emails even where there is no change between the strings I upload and the po file already on launchpad?
[10:09] <carlos> mdke: For Feisty, we are handling entries added yesterday
[10:09] <carlos> mdke: you should, yes
[10:09] <mdke> hmm
[10:09] <carlos> telling you about that
[10:09] <mdke> looking at https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/ubuntu-docs/+pots/games, I only see my name on two of the po files; even though the tarball would have had all po files inside
[10:09] <mdke> those are the two I've had emails about
[10:10] <mdke> az and vi
[10:11] <carlos> mdke: well, you shouldn't have your name there unless there is no last-translator field in the .po header
[10:12] <mdke> oh, ok. So you think it's all imported?
[10:12] <carlos> well, I'm not sure, the statistics should reflect that you uploaded more entries...
[10:18] <carlos> mdke: hmm there are a lot of files in FAILED status
[10:18] <carlos> I'm going to approve another one
[10:19] <carlos> to see whether you get that email...
[10:20] <carlos> mdke: you should have an email about it
[10:20] <carlos> did you get any?
[10:20] <mdke> carlos: only one. Failed??
[10:20] <carlos> mdke: what was it about?
[10:21] <mdke> On 2007-07-29 11:34+0000 (3 days 4 hours 33 minutes ago), you uploaded a
[10:21] <mdke> file with Afrikaans (af) translations for about-ubuntu in Ubuntu Feisty
[10:21] <mdke> package "ubuntu-docs" to Launchpad.
[10:21] <mdke> We were unable to import the file because of errors in its format.
[10:21] <carlos> mdke: we use that status to note that the last touched field in the header was not updated
[10:21] <mdke> (http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8594533/af.po)
[10:21] <carlos> hmm
[10:21] <carlos> so that's actually and error...
[10:21] <mdke> that was the only error email though
[10:23] <carlos> mdke: maybe your mail server was down so it's waiting in our mail spool...
[10:23] <carlos> mdke: anyway, the .po files are indeed broken (at least that one...)
[10:29] <mdke> carlos: doubt it, I've had bugmail since then. Hopefully, that's the only broken one :)
[10:30] <carlos> mdke: https://translations.launchpad.net/translations/imports/+index?target=distros&status=FAILED&type=all&start=4275&batch=75
[10:30] <carlos> mdke: there you have most of the failed entries
[10:35] <mdke> carlos: did you say that failed can also be caused by no changes?
[10:35] <carlos> well, our 'no changes' check is not too smart
[10:35] <carlos> we just check the .po file header timestamp
[10:36] <carlos> and if it's older than the one in our database, we reject it and set in FAILED status
[10:36] <mdke> oh. danilos - is it possible that your script would not have changed that?
[10:38] <mdke> meh; those po files look pretty screwed actually; some of them have different english strings in the msgid than in the msgstr
[10:39] <mdke> back to the drawing board I suspect
[10:49] <carlos> mdke: a problem with intltool execution?
[12:09] <ausimage> Hello I have a concern that I just noticed with member profiles on launchpad....
[12:10] <ausimage> Persons with long email address are truncated....
[12:10] <ausimage> eg. https://launchpad.net/~christer.edwards
[12:11] <ausimage> the confirmed email adresses are not complete :S
[12:11] <beuno> ausimage: depends on your resolution, and that's only on a visual level, so if you select the whole text and copy, you'll get the full email address
[12:12] <ausimage> hmmm is that not convoluted???
[12:13] <beuno> ausimage: it probably is, but I'm not sure what better solution there is
[12:13] <beuno> although I have nothing to do with it, I just jumped in  :D
[12:13] <ausimage> beuno: could the address be wrapped?
[12:13] <ausimage> or made a link
[12:14] <beuno> ausimage: since the address doesn't have any spaces, which is what is used to wrap text, no
[12:14] <beuno> and I'm not sure what you win by making it a link
[12:14] <ausimage> just my thoughts... LP should rock and this 'feature' does not :(
[12:14] <ausimage> um I mean let me click it and a new email appears with the address
[12:14] <beuno> ausimage: file a bug (if it's not filed already)