=== assasukasse [n=assasuka@n219079228143.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:33] shouldn't the emerald theme manager to work with compiz? [12:35] Yes; if you're using the offical emerald package and the official compiz package and are using Emerald as your decorator === javaJake [n=javaJake@pool-71-126-54-13.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bob_sinclair [n=bob_sinc@dev.ionata.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:49] E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.22-8-386 [12:49] no headers available for the kernel? [12:50] bob_sinclair: did you try looking for -9 headers? maybe -8 was removed from cache [12:50] oh they are there, but not suffixed by `uname -r` [12:51] need to download linux-headers-2.6.22-8 or *-generic [12:55] hey this is roughly elquivalent to debian sid right? [12:55] Kinda [12:55] kay [12:55] getting kvirc from site [12:55] basically i need help installing vpnclient [12:55] dont really feel like compiling [12:55] i don't know where to point the install to get the linux source/headers [12:56] databuddy: Don't expect a Sid deb to install cleanly or work on Ubuntu, though. [12:56] RAOF: its already broken :P [12:57] Debian have different versions of stuff, and it's probably built against a libc with a different ABI [12:57] o bah [12:57] they dont have a 64bit .deb anyway. [12:58] compile it is!!! === freechelmi_ [n=freechel@peh13-1-82-235-100-231.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@208.69.211.16] has joined #ubuntu+1 === freechelmi_amw [n=freechel@peh13-1-82-235-100-231.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === javaJake [n=javaJake@pool-71-126-54-13.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["This] === sen3 [n=sen@18.163-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === freechelmi_amw [n=freechel@peh13-1-82-235-100-231.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === asisak [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu+1 === asisak is now known as coNP === freechelmi_amw [n=freechel@peh13-1-82-235-100-231.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === freechelmi_amw [n=freechel@peh13-1-82-235-100-231.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Cwiiis [n=cwiiis@82-43-46-194.cable.ubr02.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:40] does anyone know of a bluetooth compatibility list for linux? === freechelmi_ [n=freechel@peh13-1-82-235-100-231.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === techII [n=user@pool-72-88-126-125.bflony.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:47] ok the recent kernel update broke ndiswrapper, it shows up in the output of ifconfig, but I can't get a list of networks [01:48] can someone on kubuntu confirm if bug 56163 still holds? [01:48] Launchpad bug 56163 in linux-source-2.6.15 "Ubuntu 6.06 looses ADSL-connection when USB-stick used" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56163 === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-d914cc147b8d051a] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:48] oops... bug 56136 [01:48] Launchpad bug 56136 in xchat "[WishList] Xchat default in Kubuntu instead of Xchat-gnome" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56136 === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [01:58] !java [01:58] To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rockets [n=rockets@cpe-74-64-1-72.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:13] ok, i seem to be having the issue described by bug #118448 [02:13] Launchpad bug 118448 in ndiswrapper "[gutsy] can't reach wifi with kernel 2.6.22" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118448 [02:14] hmm, a completely unrelated issue, that I'm having: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/41427 [02:14] Launchpad bug 41427 in Ubuntu ""slow keys" can turn on surreptitiously & cause confusion." [Medium,Incomplete] [02:14] I'd call that HIGH, not Medium. === grumpymole [n=warren@c58-109-125-122.lowrp2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rockets_ [n=rockets@cpe-74-64-1-72.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Pricey [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #ubuntu+1 === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.75.101] has joined #ubuntu+1 === vlowther [n=vlowther@adsl-75-55-115-198.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:42] hmmm... .me just swapped network cards -- anyone else having NM fail to associate on an ipw3945 to an open network unless the kill switch is toggled off and back on? [02:43] an atheros-based card works fine [02:44] but it also throws NMI errors on occasion, which Vista does not like at all. :( [02:44] NMI? [02:44] aND what about Vista? [02:45] (I deleted my Vista partition due to severe brokenness and severe hard-drive-space shortage.) [02:46] NMI == non-maskable interrupt [02:47] which Linux more or less ignores, but vista dies a horrible screaming death upon getting [02:47] (the NMI does not cause any problems other than killing Vista) === vlowther has not tried the card in Vista yet, mainly because if I ignore NM and manually associate & run dhclient, the connection is fine. === IntuitiveNipple [n=TJ@alexandros.tjworld.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:48] (NMI on the Atheros card, btw) === RAOF wonders whether anyone actually *reads* my responses in UF ideas threads. [02:50] Read useful responses on a forum?! You're nuts. [02:50] "Let's make a driver manager!" [02:51] ah-ha -- it is actually a known issue. [02:51] teach be to not check bugs.launchpad.net first. :) [02:51] vlowther: Oh, yeah. I knew that. I thought you'd already checked :) [02:52] nah -- decided to launch pidgin before firefox today, and figured 'what the heck'... [02:53] time to add another repro report to the bug, it seems. [02:53] Can you add any useful information? [02:53] That's not already there? [02:55] vlowther: You could always try the iwl3945 driver, actually. [02:56] RAOF: /me is still reading through the thread -- the onlt useful thing i could add is that this exact machine exhibits the bug with the ipw3945 and not with an ar5205 (IIRC) === vlowther assumes I would have to compile the iwi3945 driver from scratch? [03:01] vlowther: No, not at all. [03:01] They're in linux-ubuntu-modules :) [03:01] All you need to do is add "iwl3945" to /etc/modules, and "ipw3945" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist. [03:03] coolio [03:03] off to try it [03:03] Because iwl is set to not autoload, and you can't load it with ipw (for obvious reasons) === AnRkey [n=AnRkey@87-194-62-131.bethere.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:03] vlowther: I'll be interested to hear if you can stay associated for more than an hour with those drivers :) [03:04] we shall see... any interesting bugs with them I should know about (other than being horribly alpha, that is. ;) ) [03:05] Not that I noticed. It successfully associated with WPA2. [03:08] Actually, blacklist is enough. [03:08] With .22-9. [03:08] .22-8 ubuntu-modules doesn't have iwl3945, I believe. === vlowthe1 [n=vlowther@adsl-75-55-115-198.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:09] Oh, I see, maybe it autoloads with custom-compiled, but not with packaged. [03:09] DanaG: That's right. Ubuntu patch out the "I drive this piece of hardware" table. [03:09] Aah. [03:09] So that it doesn't autoload :) [03:09] And it was in .22-8 [03:10] Oh, is there any way to get the system to explicitly release its IP address upon suspend? [03:10] If I don't do that, my router is too stupid to give me one when I resume. [03:10] Then I have to manually ifconfig to the right IP, or restart the router. === Agrajag` [n=Agrajag@c-67-163-214-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 [03:11] I don't have that issue in Windows. [03:11] (I don't think it's the fault of Linux; I think it's that Windows lets the router get away with being stupid.) === d4rkmonkey [n=J-Red@CPE000bcd15b4ae-CM00195efba7ac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:12] Oh, and is there a way to tell a router to give me an IP for a specific amount of time? Right now, my router sets the lease time to over 30 years. Yes, years. [03:13] I think that's a dhclient option. [03:13] Also, your router's config page might be useful [03:13] Nope, it's not. Stupid Netgear. [03:14] firmware upgrade? === ameyer [i=ameyer17@isafailure.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === vlowther [n=vlowther@adsl-75-55-115-198.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:17] ah, that is better [03:18] How goes the iwl? [03:22] well, so far, so good. === T-Connect [n=mitchell@adsl-65-68-206-231.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:23] getting decent bandwidth, and nothing too crazy is happening in dmesg -- just a bunch of REPLY_ADD_STA failed messages [03:24] Yeah. [03:24] I'll wait for you to unassociate and need to reboot before I declare it a success :) [03:25] NM did not appreciate my forced reomval of ipw3945, tho -- i had to take it into single-user mode to get everyhting back [03:25] RAOF: oh, is that the deal, then? :) [03:25] but reboots make the baby Jesus cry. [03:27] but if I must... === Fjodor [n=sune@0x55510b65.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:27] Gah. I didn't mean that. === vlowther [n=vlowther@adsl-75-55-115-198.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:29] the reboot, she worked [03:29] not the timer starts on the iwl3945 driver, then? [03:30] s/not/now/ [03:30] vlowther: Sorry. I meant that after a while *my* attempts at using the iwl drivers resulted in me getting disassociated & needing to reboot to fix it :/ [03:30] Yeah :) [03:30] ah [03:31] in that case, what does hte network config look like @ your end? probably not running a wide-open AP like me... [03:31] Indeed. A WPA/WPA2 setup. [03:31] hmm. does gstreamer play midi files yet? [03:32] Not as far as I'm aware. [03:32] I suppose it's technically possible, though. [03:32] ah. I will go out on a limb and assime the iwl3945 does not to hardware accellerated encryption, then? [03:32] damn my typos. [03:33] pwnguin: that was actually featured on Slashdot today, in an oblique fashion. === vlowther actually reads TFAs [03:33] heh [03:33] vlowther: actually [03:34] i just read that artcile and was wondering [03:34] vlowther: Why would you suggest that? I don't know either way. [03:34] Woo. Latest notifcation-daemon update fixed my issue! And I thought it was just something screwy with my computer [03:34] vlowther: as it happens, timidity works [03:35] so it seems possible; and i hear gstreamer-plugins-bad has a timidity in cvs [03:35] RAOF: partially because I see arc4 and friends loaded as kernel modules [03:36] right after iwl3945 [03:36] pwnguin: so someone else RTFA'ed, then. :) [03:36] vlowther: indeed. i found a bounty on launchpad on the subject === sayers [n=sayers@76.20.133.246] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:37] well, there you go, then. [03:37] vlowther: seriously, the command line tool just played a midi for me [03:37] no reason it would not [03:37] and the gstreamer plugin's called timidity, so it seems like gutsy migtht work out of the box [03:38] better turn on the laptop [03:38] jsut a matter of hooking up the timidity libs to gstreamer, then. [03:38] and fixing timidity [03:38] well, there is that. :) [03:38] besides, it is not like anyone actually uses midi anymore, right ;) [03:38] that was the most odd part about it [03:40] anyways, back to finding out what else I can cut out of suspend/resume -- I am down to a 3 second resume from STR time as it is. [03:40] does the stock kernel finally build the timing stuff? [03:43] hm? [03:43] what do you mean? [03:44] dmesg timestamps, or something else? === malnilion [n=malnilio@adsl-70-233-254-190.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:47] something else [03:48] there's a tool for diagnosing where suspend is in the kernel [03:48] pwnguin: You mean the one that stores data in the RTC? [03:48] but i guess its not timing [03:48] even though its in the clock =/ [03:48] RAOF: yes [03:49] Isn't that already in the vanilla kernel? [03:49] as an option [03:49] Or do you mean in the Ubuntu kernel? [03:49] the ubuntu kernel specifically [03:49] thats what i meant by "stock" [03:50] since vanilla seems to be the term for kernel.org unpatched ;) [03:50] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend seems to suggest that it's been on as of Feisty === BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@adsl-65-69-153-129.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:51] well hurray === vlowther [n=vlowther@adsl-75-55-115-198.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:53] RAOF: well, something hiccupped there -- doesn't see mto have been the card, tho. [03:54] :) === tehk [n=tehk@c-69-249-157-157.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sayers [n=sayers@76.20.133.246] has joined #ubuntu+1 === cyphase [n=cyphase@c-71-198-55-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:04] i'm having major trouble with my pc keeping time [04:04] what can i do? [04:04] How difficult would it be to expand the functionality that tells you when Firefox needs to be restarted after an upgrade/reinstall to include more programs? [04:05] cyphase: Not at all, it's already used for a bunch of stuff. === rockets [n=rockets@cpe-74-64-1-72.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:06] RAOF: what stuff? I can't remember anything of the top of my head.. [04:06] cyphase: Every time alsa gets upgraded, for example. [04:06] But what do you think needs such notifications? [04:06] RAOF: that tells you to reboot, doesn't it? [04:06] instead of just restarting a program [04:07] cyphase: No, to re-run "asoundconf" [04:07] hmm [04:07] But it's all the same infrastructure, any package can use it. [04:07] is it all hard coded into a binary? or is there a config file? [04:08] ah [04:08] But why would you want to? Firefox is an exception, in that it won't use the new version until you close all existing firefox windows. [04:09] if liferea was updated, i might want to know so i can restart it [04:09] or whatever program [04:11] You can't just pay attention to the "what will be upgraded" window? === False_Courage [n=lollersk@c-24-14-254-177.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:13] RAOF: if ubuntu developers only added what *they* needed, ubuntu wouldn't be so easy to use, would it? :) [04:14] cyphase: But that would be incredibly annoying; you'd get one of those notices each and every time you updated. [04:14] Firefox is an exception, I believe, because it won't work properly in a half-installed state. [04:15] RAOF: ah, can you tell me where that functionality is? [04:15] RAOF: we need it for sun's java, and flashplugin [04:15] RAOF: of course, if you could fix it, so much better to you :) [04:15] Hobbsee: Your package needs to touch a file in... somewhere. [04:15] updates aren't to frequent, and it would only make sense for actual applications. no use in saying, "restart all prgrams that use the libc library" [04:16] cyphase: What are you doing in ubuntu+1 :P [04:16] i found the file, but i don't know how to make the dialog say what i want it to [04:16] Programs I use get updated multiple times a day :) [04:16] RAOF: i assume you're running gutsy [04:17] Hobbsee: Want to point me at the bug(s), and I'll see what I can do. [04:17] cyphase: Yes. This *is* ubuntu+1. It's a fair assumption to assume everyone in here is running Gutsy. [04:17] RAOF: i dont remember them offhand. it's also listed against ubuntu-restricted-extras, but i think i marked it as wontfix there, so you'll need an advanced search [04:17] RAOF: it's fairly easy to find off that, though - give me a yell if you have trouble [04:18] (your LP will probably load quicker than mine will) [04:18] :) [04:18] RAOF: there aren't nearly as many updates in feisty, seeing as it's already been released [04:18] cyphase: True. But then, the updates are only bugfixes anyway, so you probably don't need to care. [04:19] if i don't need to care, why update it at all? [04:19] anyway.. [04:20] i was just curious how you made that "restart this program" dialog pop up [04:20] and put XYZ text in it [04:20] Touch a file somewhere :) [04:21] yea, i know: /usr/share/update-notifier/notify-reboot-required [04:22] touching a file doesn't say anything about firefox [04:22] apt-get source firefox? === T-Connect [n=mitchell@adsl-65-68-206-231.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Konversation] === eobanb [n=eoban@user-0c93gne.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === IdleOne [n=idleone@unaffiliated/idleone] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:44] RAOF: well, it has been over an hour, and my connection is still $%#NO CARRIER [04:44] ? [04:45] :) [04:46] sorry, couldn't resist [04:46] (not that i have used a modem in over a decade, mind you...) === AnRkey [n=AnRkey@87-194-62-131.bethere.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === OSUKid7` [n=OSUKid7@acm.bw.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF2D40.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:11] aha.. /var/lib/update-notifier/user.d === OSUKid7` [n=OSUKid7@acm.bw.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:24] Oh, for hw crypto in iwl3945, do modinfo iwl3945. [05:24] There's a parameter you can pass to the module to enable hwcrypto. [05:24] I'm rather late, but perhaps the original asker is still around. === miguelon [n=migsol@201.230.187.30] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:29] he is, but not for long. [05:29] DanaG: any idea on how stable it is? [05:37] Hmm, I haven't tried it much. [05:38] Lol, this is the stupidest question ever, but anybody know a command to recursively search an entire directory worth of files for a text string? [05:38] Well, to execute commands on things, [05:39] find /some/path -exec some-bin {} \; [05:39] where {} is replaced by current file, and the last semicolon DOES have to be escaped with a backslash. [05:40] So it'd be 'find /some/path -exec grep pattern {} \; === d4rkmonkey [n=J-Red@CPE000bcd15b4ae-CM00195efba7ac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:40] Hey, I just updated to gutsy, and I was wondering how to enable compiz-fusion. [05:40] Do you think I could cat -R /path/* |grep "string" or something? [05:40] I don't know if cat has recursive option. [05:41] Darn, it doesn't [05:41] Nevermind, I found it [05:44] d4rkmonkey: (cd dir && grep -r foo *) ? [05:44] vlowther, what? [05:45] d4rkmonkey: is that what you found? [05:46] vlowther, no, I was talking about enabling desktop effects [05:46] sry, brainfart. thought you asked the other question. :p [05:46] vlowther, lol, its ok :) [05:48] hm, if I am making that kind of stupid mistake, I should probably stop hacking on my acpi scripts. Especially since they are the live ones. [05:48] vlowther, do you know how I can configure different things for desktop effects like the cube? [05:48] (for now, that is -- maybe after some sleep) [05:48] gotta use gconf-editor, IIRC. [05:50] /apps/compiz/plugins iirc === ajmorris_ [i=kllnn@static-ip-85-25-147-217.inaddr.intergenia.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:51] vlowther, ok === astro76 [n=james@unaffiliated/astro76] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:55] vlowther, that gnome-compiz-manager or whatever it was called doesn't work on gutsy? === defcon [n=defcon@70-58-118-74.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:57] no idea -- never tried it [05:58] until very recently, compiz and suspend did not play nice with the nVidia card on my box. === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bderrly [n=bderrly@68-113-34-207.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip70-177-204-60.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:12] vlowther: And they do now? === d4rkmonkey [n=J-Red@CPE000bcd15b4ae-CM00195efba7ac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:15] RAOF: only after hacking the ACPI scripts to not do all that crap they were doing with the video card and just let the nvidia binary driver take care of things. [06:16] (it also cut a few seconds off resume time -- not polsting the video card and switching consoles needlessly). [06:16] vlowther: You mean you can have compiz enabled, suspend, and come back to a working session? [06:16] yes === tehk [n=tehk@c-69-249-157-157.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:16] Wicked. Write a howto [06:17] I've gone back to 97.55 and I still have fixed nvidia suspend. [06:17] It was the /etc/default/acpi-support settings only that made the difference. [06:17] However, a second suspend-resume cycle sometimes fails. [06:17] heh. I actually plan on submitting a patch to acpi-support [06:17] Anyone know if there are going to be packages for Compiz-fusion-plugins-unsupported/unofficial [06:17] Is there a way to make my system explicitly release its IP addresses before suspending? [06:18] but I noticed some other inconsistencies... [06:18] tehk: No. Read the package name :) [06:18] Will there at least be an easy way to download and compile them while keeping the rest of the stuff packaged? [06:18] I'd like to see that, at least. [06:18] Though that may be one of those "easier said than done" sort of things. [06:19] RAOF well the names do not really mean anything, since all of compiz fusion and beryl were unsupported [06:19] DanaG: Yeah, it'll be easy. compiz-bcop, and compiz-dev are all you need [06:19] Aah. [06:19] tehk: But those plugins are unsupported even by the crack-happy standards of Beryl :){ [06:20] DanaG: In fact, you won't even need root. [06:21] hmm when I go into desktop effects through the gui, it lets me enable it, but when going back, it says it isn't enabled (even though its working). Whats up with that? [06:23] Dunno. File a bug? [06:23] In fact, search for the already existing bug, I think :) [06:23] RAOF, sounds good. [06:24] My wireless doesn't work in gutsy either. In feisty at first it didn't work, but one time when I turned my comp on it randomly started working. The actual hardware is off and I don't know how to turn it on :( [06:24] Hmm I hope the shift plugin gets pushed into plugins-extra. It would be nice to have that without a third part package [06:27] OOps, I somehow read "shift" without the F. OOps. === TheGoodShepherd [n=lollersk@c-24-14-254-177.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:44] Why isn't restricted-manager installed in Gutsy? [06:44] Isn't it? [06:45] Let's rephrase: cyphase, it is for me :) [06:46] RAOF: hmm.. well, i installed tribe 3 in a virtual machine.. [06:46] could that have affected it? [06:46] No, shouldn't have. [06:46] strange [06:47] ok, just looked through the ubuntu-desktop Recommends.. restricted-manager *is* in there, but it's not installed === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:48] gar [06:48] !tty [06:48] To get to the tty terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login). [06:48] !tty missing [06:48] Sorry, I don't know anything about tty missing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [06:49] !missing tty [06:49] Sorry, I don't know anything about missing tty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [06:49] gah [06:49] Oh, if your consoles are blank, try 'sudo modprobe fbcon'. [06:50] For some reason, the module is not being loaded in the initramfs, perhaps. [06:50] nope cant even switch to em === MacSlow_ [n=mirco@dslb-084-063-108-045.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:03] Hmm, that's a different issue. [07:03] ah needed version 9775 according to Jupiter1tx [07:03] known bug [07:03] ok bbiab gonna do manual install [07:04] masterloki: ?L [07:04] ?? [07:04] masterloki: Of the nvidia-glx-new drivers? [07:04] using just nvidia-glx [07:04] Ah. [07:04] 1.0-9631 [07:04] But why a manual install? [07:05] is there a 9755 in the repo? [07:05] !info nvidia-glx-new gutsy [07:05] Yes [07:05] oh [07:05] nvidia-glx-new: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.9755+2.6.22.2-9.6 (gutsy), package size 4720 kB, installed size 14400 kB [07:05] no reason then [07:05] :) === masterloki puts that in instead [07:05] and may i say right the !@#$%$&$%^& on for putting in before i did manual [07:05] lkol [07:05] lol **** [07:05] funneh even [07:06] im betting the reason that compiz is doing nothing is the driver i put in too [07:06] hehe [07:06] i didnt think the 7xxx series needed that driver - just so i know for the future wasnt there a compatability list? [07:06] !nvidia [07:06] To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [07:08] RAOF, i spose i cant just purge the nvidia module and modprobe the new one and restart X === Sebast1an [n=sb@p5088FEED.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Sebast1an is now known as Sebastian === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Xemanth [n=xemanth@hostf204.hamk.fi] has joined #Ubuntu+1 === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-59-116.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jgoss [n=josh@unaffiliated/jgoss] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:52] what does "Go Ape!" mean in topic ? :> === eMaX [n=emax@242.7.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:53] Xemanth: I'm pretty sure a gibbon is a type of ape [07:53] hmm-m [07:53] other than that, no clue [07:53] i c === bderrly [n=brian@68-113-34-207.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:59] why does the empathy chat client exist? === masterloki [n=ubuntu@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:04] reinstalling gutsy b/c changing ati card to nvidia card caused all kinda problems. [08:06] bderrly: As a simple gnome telepathy frontend? [08:07] RAOF: I suppose I'm not up to date on what telepathy is and why it is needed...I just discovered it 15 minutes ago [08:08] And telepathy is cool because it's a single API for all communications stuff: IRC, msn, gabber, SIP, VoIP, Videoconferencing... [08:09] And some other stuff. Basically, the idea is that all your communications gets handled by telepathy. So, for example, in Evolution you'll be able to tell if the person you're sending an email to is on IM [08:09] And stuff. It's cool. [08:09] And unfinished :) [08:09] that sounds good [08:10] I'd just like to be able to voice-chat over the AIM protocol. [08:10] it just seems odd that we would need yet another chat client to rule them all [08:10] good luck with the AIM protocol ;) [08:10] or is it s/protocol/network/ ? [08:11] oscar is the protocal [08:11] bderrly: The idea is that it's not a chat client. [08:11] err [08:11] protocol [08:11] although many things that try to do many things fail to do anything well [08:11] Or just find ONE cross-platform voice&video-chat app. [08:11] The idea is that telepathy is a chat client backend. [08:11] RAOF: sorry, i was referring to empathy and didn't say so [08:11] Pidgin is a horrible IRC client. for example [08:11] I have friends on OS X, and ekiga doesn't have an OS X version. [08:12] ameyer: funny you should mention that as i'm running irc from pidgin as a test right now :) [08:12] DanaG: But it uses SIP and does open standards. I've talked with a jml with Ekiga, and he was on OS X [08:12] perhaps it's improved recently [08:12] What client did the other person use? [08:12] Dunno. I forget. :) [08:13] His client only had a crappy codec, though, so the quality wasn't too awesome. [08:13] Plus, I have to use offboard sound if I want to use a microphone. [08:13] Heh. [08:14] But then again, I mostly only ever leave my external sound card behind when I'm going somewhere where I can talk to the people, anyway. [08:14] is empathy/telepathy going to support more than the three or four protocols it does now? [08:15] it seems silly to create another chat client that only supports a few protocols [08:15] I've found a bug with GTK: popup menus only respond to right mouse button. [08:16] Try this in pidgin: right click the input box, then try to select an input method with the left button. [08:16] It doesn't work. [08:16] input methods is greyed out for me [08:16] Okay, it works after about 10 or so tries. [08:16] Do you have SCIM installed? [08:17] it would appear so [08:17] Hmm. [08:17] ii scim 1.4.7-1ubuntu1 smart common input method platform [08:17] it is available if i right click a gnome-term [08:17] i scim-gtk2-immodule [08:18] installed [08:18] bderrly: empathy should support everything that telepathy does, and telepathy is meant to support everything. [08:18] Hmm, for me, it took 10 tries to select it one time, then 6 tries to select Default again. [08:18] That's what I'd call broken. [08:18] haha [08:18] yeah [08:19] The same thing applies to pavucontrol when moving streams between devices. === poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-65-174.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === MacSlow_ is now known as MacSlow [08:31] ok [08:32] this makes me feel better: there is work on a pidgin to work with telepathy [08:32] s/a pidgin/pidgin/ === tehk [n=tehk@c-69-249-157-157.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:34] Argh, I can't figure out how to set up port forwarding on my iptables. [08:34] I'm running qemu under NAT on tap0, but I need to make the client reachable from the host. [08:36] Have upstream versions frozen yet? === joetheodd [n=joe@dpc674776052.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:39] Nowhere neap [08:39] s/p/r/ [08:40] i think that's a couple weeks away [08:40] !release [08:40] Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases [08:40] Nah, that's not it. [08:40] I found it, august 16th [08:40] Ages away :) [08:41] Yea ages. [08:41] that doesn't 100% freeze things, right? [08:41] No, it merely means you need to have a reason. [08:42] like security fixes [08:42] or even bug fixes === ameyer shuts up [08:42] Or useful new features, even. === joetheodd_ [n=joe@dpc674776052.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bderrly [n=brian@68-113-34-207.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sahin_w [n=KT@210.216.53.194] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 === hylje [i=hylje@c214.myrootshell.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Tomcat_ [n=Tomcat@p54A1FB6A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sen3 [n=sen@18.163-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === kekZpriester [n=luc@DSL01.83.171.190.65.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:09] ok did fresh install with nvidia card and desktop effects do not work out of the box [09:10] it put in the argb stuff in the xorg when activating the nvidia module + reboot [09:10] doing full system update which is probably a mistake [09:10] and curiously enough i can get to the tty screens atm with ctrl+alt+f1-f6 [09:10] so if that goes away im gonna guess its the package that does that lol === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-2-219.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanglyBits [n=n@static24-72-74-4.regina.accesscomm.ca] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:13] how can i play a wma movie using totem in gutsy? === sen3 [n=sen@18.163-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:15] how can i play a wmv's movie using totem in gutsy? [09:17] sudo apt-get install totem-xine [09:17] and get the w32/w64/codecs [09:17] !restricted formats [09:17] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [09:18] databuddy: Not needed. [09:18] databuddy: There are now open-source wmv3 decoders. [09:18] Argh, I'm trying to get seamlessvirtualization to work, but I can't get it to do so. === databuddy sighs [09:19] RDP works, but it's windowed. [09:19] RAOF: fine. [09:19]