[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #129528 in gdm (main) "[gutsy]  gdmsetup ignores "Use24Clock" setting" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129528
[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #129529 in Ubuntu "system settings dialog crash reproducable" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129529
[12:25] <ubotu> New bug: #129530 in k3b (main) "can't choose dvd write speed in k3b" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129530
[12:30] <ubotu> New bug: #129531 in notification-daemon (main) "ubuntu theme has ugly colors" [Low,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129531
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #129534 in update-manager (main) "update-manager" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129534
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #129535 in heimdal (universe) "heimdal-kdc has wrong ldapi path" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129535
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #129536 in firefox (main) "firefox crashes when application launched" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129536
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #129538 in notification-daemon (main) "Clicking on the ballon does nothing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129538
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #129539 in Ubuntu "virtual consoles not working in gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129539
[12:55] <ubotu> New bug: #129537 in Ubuntu "netgear wg511v1 no drivers in gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129537
[01:08] <coNP> bdmurray: can bugs like bug 88321 be closed as "invalid"? They cannot be reproduced without any user input IMHO. Is what apport provides enough?
[01:08] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 88321 in xchat "[apport]  xchat crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_box_forall()" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88321
[01:09] <bdmurray> coNP: looking
[01:09] <coNP> Thanks. I would close it but ... might be better to ask sometimes :)
[01:11] <ubotu> New bug: #129540 in pypolicyd-spf (universe) "Please sync pypolicyd-spf 0.4-3 from Debian Unstable (Main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129540
[01:11] <bdmurray> coNP: What apport provides should be enough but I can't say for sure in this particular case.
[01:12] <coNP> The problem is that I cannot try with newer version
[01:12] <coNP> Because it cannot be reproduced.
[01:13] <bdmurray> Do you mean because there are not steps to reproduce?
[01:13] <coNP> yes
[01:14] <coNP> Is there some apport-magic to reproduce them?
[01:14] <bdmurray> And nobody else had the crash either correct?
[01:15] <coNP> It is not stated explicitly. It has been set to "confirmed" after apport did the retrace
[01:15] <bdmurray> What I mean is I don't see any duplicates or similar crash reports with Gutsy.
[01:19] <asisak> bdmurray: sorry, if you answered that please repeat.
[01:19] <asisak> n
[01:20] <norsetto> lionel: hey, don just ack it (bug #129540); send it bloody away :-)
[01:20] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 129540 in pypolicyd-spf "Please sync pypolicyd-spf 0.4-3 from Debian Unstable (Main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129540
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #129543 in zephyr (main) "Please sync zephyr (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129543
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #129544 in xmms-midi (universe) "Please sync xmms-midi (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129544
[01:25] <ubotu> New bug: #129545 in gnomemm (universe) "Merge gnomemm 1.2.4 (universe) from Debian (unstable)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129545
[01:25] <ubotu> New bug: #129546 in xmds (universe) "Please sync xmds (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129546
[01:30] <ubotu> New bug: #129547 in workman (universe) "Please sync workman (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129547
[01:32] <bdmurray>  What I mean is I don't see any duplicates or similar crash
[01:32] <bdmurray>                   reports with Gutsy.
[01:33] <coNP> So what do you think?
[01:34] <bdmurray> Marking that particular bug as invalid seems sane.
[01:35] <ubotu> New bug: #129548 in valgrind (main) "Valgrind does not escape/check isprint() symbol names" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129548
[01:35] <ubotu> New bug: #129549 in tor (universe) "Please sync tor 0.1.2.15-1 from Debian (unstable)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129549
[01:36] <coNP> bdmurray: there are 4 like this
[01:37] <bdmurray> 4 without steps to reproduce?
[01:37] <coNP> But I think I'll mark all of them. Since they wouldn't raise attention anyway. Maybe this makes however aware the ones, who confirmed it to add details if the confirmation is valid
[01:37] <paulvg> Isn't the correct status for such bugs "Incomplete"?
[01:38] <bdmurray> I think it is hard for people to remember exactly what they were doing before a crash though.
[01:38] <bdmurray> paulvg: the bugs we are talking about are in incomplete and never received the information asked for
[01:38] <paulvg> ohes
[01:38] <coNP> they are "confirmed"
[01:38] <coNP> though none includes any steps to reproduce them
[01:39] <coNP> there are nice apport stack traces, but I can neither try to reproduce nor mark them fixed without steps to reproduce
[01:39] <bdmurray> It is also worth noting that the crash reports are from Feisty and the version of xchat seems to have changed a lot.
[01:40] <coNP> Yes.
[01:40] <bdmurray> And apport will always submit more crash reports. ;)
[01:40] <ubotu> New bug: #129551 in watchdog (universe) "Please sync watchdog (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129551
[01:45] <ubotu> New bug: #129553 in wide-dhcpv6 (universe) "Please sync wide-dhcpv6 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129553
[01:45] <ubotu> New bug: #129554 in wise (universe) "Please sync wise (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129554
[01:48] <coNP> can someone on kubuntu confirm if bug 56136 still holds?
[01:49] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 56136 in xchat "[WishList]  Xchat default in Kubuntu instead of Xchat-gnome" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/56136
[01:49] <paulvg> funny, search google for "gtk_box_forall"
[01:51] <ubotu> New bug: #129556 in socat (universe) "Please sync socat (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129556
[01:51] <coNP> paulvg: :)
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #127656 in gnome-panel (main) "panel don't show opened applications" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127656
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #127688 in wengophone (universe) "qtwengophone crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127688
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #129558 in tkdesk (universe) "Please sync tkdesk (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129558
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #129559 in rt2400 (universe) "Please sync rt2400 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129559
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #129560 in vr (universe) "Please sync vr (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129560
[02:10] <ubotu> New bug: #129561 in update-manager (main) "package update-manager failed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129561
[02:10] <ubotu> New bug: #129564 in quadprog (universe) "Please sync quadprog (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129564
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #129562 in Ubuntu "Package Manager error opening cache" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129562
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #129565 in python-scipy-core (universe) "Please sync python-scipy-core (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129565
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #129566 in stfl (universe) "Please sync stfl (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129566
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #129567 in qprof (universe) "Please sync qprof (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129567
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #129568 in libpam-foreground (main) "Please sync libpam-foreground (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129568
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #129569 in date (universe) "Please sync date (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129569
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #129570 in r-cran-eco (universe) "Please sync r-cran-eco (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129570
[02:30] <ubotu> New bug: #129571 in praat (universe) "Please sync praat (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129571
[02:30] <ubotu> New bug: #129572 in powertop (universe) "Please sync powertop (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129572
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #129573 in adept (main) "adept-updater crashes when upgrade is done" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129573
[02:46] <ubotu> New bug: #129574 in apparmor (main) "Add BOINC AppArmor Profile" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129574
[02:46] <ubotu> New bug: #129575 in apt (main) "Version control system warnings annoying and misleading" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129575
[02:46] <ScottK> That one ^^^ is mine.
[02:46] <Kmos> :)
[02:47] <ScottK> Kmos: The python-scipy-core sync is just work for the archive admins and the MOTUs that have to review it for no gain other than Karma for you.
[02:47] <ScottK> Please do something useful.
[02:48] <Kmos> :)
[02:48] <Kmos> ScottK: if you think it isn't useful, so invalid it :)
[02:49] <ScottK> I will, but I wish you'd think stuff through before you do it.
[02:50] <Kmos> ScottK: how do I know if it's useful or not ?
[02:50] <ScottK> See you are making work for me.
[02:50] <Kmos> :)
[02:50] <ScottK> No, not ;)
[02:50] <ScottK> :(
[02:51] <ubotu> New bug: #129576 in r-cran-pscl (universe) "Please sync r-cran-pscl (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129576
[02:51] <ubotu> New bug: #129577 in rgl (universe) "Please sync rgl (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129577
[02:51] <ScottK> I suggested the other day that you find and area to specialize in and learn about.
[02:51] <ScottK> I knew about python-scipy-core because one of the things I've specialized in is Python packages and I've dealt with it before.
[02:51] <Kmos> ScottK: I like to have ubuntu updated, triage some bugs, do some coding.. i've a lot of areas
[02:52] <Kmos> ScottK: I don't know python :) only little things
[02:52] <ScottK> Sure, but you are spreading yourself too thin and causing problems as a result.
[02:52] <ScottK> What do you do with your computer when you are not doing Ubuntu work?
[02:53] <Kmos> coding.. mail..
[02:53] <Kmos> check web newspapers
[02:53] <Kmos> blogging
[02:53] <Kmos> :)
[02:54] <ScottK> OK
[02:54] <ScottK> Do you use Ubuntu or Kubuntu
[02:54] <Kmos> Ubuntu
[02:54] <Kmos> i like gnome :)
[02:54] <Kmos> and my irssi :P
[02:54] <ScottK> OK.  Pick out a few of the applications that you use every day to do the above things and concentrate on triaging bugs for those applications.
[02:55] <ScottK> Make sure the bugs that annoy you personally are written and triaged.
[02:55] <ScottK> Since you use that stuff, you'll know more about it.
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #129578 in nlme (universe) "Please sync nlme (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129578
[02:56] <Kmos> ScottK: some months ago I found a bug in thunderbird, that is fixed upstream in 2.0.0.5 i think
[02:56] <Kmos> I like to catch some bugs :) and ofcourse report them
[02:56] <Kmos> i also work for ddclient project
[02:56] <ScottK> Right.  I bet Thunderbird has lots of untraiged bugs.
[02:57] <Kmos> i've fixed ipkungfu bug and reported upstream and it's fixed
[02:57] <Kmos> i don't like to do always the same thing
[02:57] <Kmos> and package it for ubuntu =)
[02:57] <ScottK> Well you would do your reputation and Ubuntu a huge favor if you would focus on some things and do them well.
[02:58] <paulvg> i'll see you when you've finished your build of thunderbird, next year or so ;)
[02:59] <paulvg> jk
[02:59] <Kmos> :))
[02:59] <Kmos> maybe, at my core2duo it compiles more fast
[02:59] <Kmos> hehe
[03:00] <Kmos> ScottK: but why anyone use python-scipy-core ? you've access to statistics ?
[03:02] <ScottK> I don't have access to stats, but when python-scipy was first developed it was broken into python-scipy and python-scipy-core.  Shortly after that (I think about 6 months) python-scipy-core got renamed python-numpy.  This was 3-4 years ago IIRC.
[03:02] <Kmos> ScottK: so why you don't ask to remove it from archive ?
[03:02] <ScottK> So anything that uses it (and it has not legit reverse depends) is really old.
[03:02] <Kmos> i don't see any programs using it
[03:02] <Kmos> packages :)
[03:02] <Kmos> python-f2py uses it..
[03:03] <ScottK> Does it really?  apt-cache reports python-scipy uses it, but apt-cache is wrong.
[03:04] <Kmos> i saw that
[03:04] <Kmos> but it uses it's own package :D
[03:04] <Kmos> lol
[03:05] <Kmos> what sponsors should i subscribe for multiverse?
[03:06] <ScottK> MOTU
[03:06] <ScottK> UUS
[03:06] <Kmos> ok
[03:06] <Kmos> I think i found some bug on requestsync :))
[03:06] <Kmos> i'll see it tomorrow
[03:07] <Kmos> time to go
[03:08] <Kmos> cya!
[03:08] <Kmos> it's 2 a.m here
[03:09] <paulvg> goodnight
[03:10] <Kmos> thx
[03:10] <ubotu> New bug: #128099 in Ubuntu ":(){ :|:& };:  (dup-of: 14505)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128099
[03:10] <ubotu> New bug: #129579 in xchat-gnome (main) "'Send file...' menu doesn't work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129579
[03:15] <ubotu> New bug: #129580 in vice (multiverse) "Please sync vice (multiverse) from Debian unstable (contrib)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129580
[03:21] <paulvg> #117148 is weird, apport confirmed it but the file ( ftp://ftp.grisoft.cz/pub/softw/70free/setup/avg75fld-r47-a1022.i386.deb ) extracts fine, even (*shudder*) installs fine (though - surprise, surprise - doesn't find anything unusual ;)
[03:22] <paulvg> from the trace, it might have been a double free
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #129581 in Ubuntu "Gutsy - Kubuntu - USB Flash Drive does not automount" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129581
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #129582 in Ubuntu "Create new file always creates new file on default screen" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129582
[03:31] <ubotu> New bug: #129583 in totem (main) "totem-xine doesn't work with the totem-mozilla plugin" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129583
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #129586 in pbuilder (main) "pdebuild overrides --buildresult" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129586
[04:35] <ubotu> New bug: #129587 in evolution (main) "RFE: remove 'message sent on behalf of'" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129587
[05:21] <ubotu> New bug: #129591 in python-f2py (universe) "Please remove python-f2py from Gutsy" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129591
[05:21] <ubotu> New bug: #129592 in Ubuntu "ls/nautilus hangs due to bug in ext3 module" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129592
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #129593 in python-scipy-core (universe) "Please remove python-scipy-core from Gutsy" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129593
[05:30] <ubotu> New bug: #129594 in gtk+2.0 (main) "undefined symbol: g_once_init_enter_impl" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129594
[05:45] <ubotu> New bug: #129596 in libgdchart-gd2 (main) "libgdchart-gd2-xpm-dev depends to libgd2-noxpm-dev" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129596
[05:45] <ubotu> New bug: #129597 in Ubuntu "Failure accessing 2GB SD card using Neodio 7-in-1 card reader" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129597
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #129599 in evolution (main) "[gutsy tribe 3]  Evolution preferences window too tall on 1280x800 resolution" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129599
[06:16] <ubotu> New bug: #129601 in Ubuntu "[gusty]  Atheros chipset wireless card disconnecting with FIFO overrun" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129601
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #129603 in Ubuntu "[gusty]  No DRI with "ati" drivers in x800xl card: RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129603
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #129604 in debconf (main) "dpkg-preconfigure crashed with SIGSEGV in abort()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129604
[06:45] <ubotu> New bug: #129605 in listen (universe) "Incorrect packages dependency" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129605
[07:25] <ubotu> New bug: #129612 in casper (main) "busybox: can't access tty; job control turned off" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129612
[07:28] <TheMuso> c
[07:28] <TheMuso> ugh
[07:30] <ubotu> New bug: #129614 in memtest86+ (main) "package memtest86+ 1.70-2ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129614
[07:41] <ubotu> New bug: #129618 in Ubuntu "formar part de la comunitat" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129618
[07:51] <ubotu> New bug: #128670 in thunderbird (main) "[GUTSY]  thunderbird crashed [@IA__g_logv]  [@IA__g_log]  [@gdk_x_error]  (dup-of: 123311)" [High,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128670
[07:51] <ubotu> New bug: #128708 in thunderbird (main) "[GUTSY]  thunderbird crashed [@IA__g_logv]  [@IA__g_log]  [@gdk_x_error]  (dup-of: 123311)" [High,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128708
[07:51] <ubotu> New bug: #129619 in dwww (universe) "dwww: use Strigi instead of swish? (wishlist)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129619
[08:00] <ubotu> New bug: #129620 in Ubuntu "Update Firefox 2.0.0.6.+1 disables start Firefox" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129620
[08:06] <ubotu> New bug: #129613 in firefox (main) "Firefox is version 2.0.0.5, which has security holes  (dup-of: 129369)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129613
[08:10] <ubotu> New bug: #129621 in procps (main) "slabtop fails - /proc/slabinfo not present in Gutsy 64bit" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129621
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #129622 in evolution (main) "upgrade failure" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129622
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #129623 in acpi (main) "Gutsy Tribe 3 i386 failed to hibernate with 3D enabled on Santa Rosa" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129623
[08:51] <ubotu> New bug: #129625 in endeavour (universe) "Merge endeavour 2.8.2-1 (universe) from Debian (unstable)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129625
[08:51] <ubotu> New bug: #129626 in Ubuntu "Gnome cd creator doesnt write properly" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129626
[08:55] <ubotu> New bug: #129628 in kdemultimedia (main) "package libarts1-akode is missing final newline" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129628
[08:56] <ubotu> New bug: #129627 in xorg (main) "[Gutsy tribe 3 x86_64]  Enable or disable "desktop effects" make the system do not response (santa rosa)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129627
[09:05] <ubotu> New bug: #129629 in gdm (main) "[Gutsy Tribe 3 x86_64]  gdm lost Ubuntu theme (santa rosa)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129629
[09:10] <ubotu> New bug: #129630 in dovecot (main) "[feature-request-gutsy]  Include managesieve patch in dovecot" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129630
[09:15] <ubotu> New bug: #129631 in firefox (main) "Firefox differs from Mozilla version in Feisty, Edgy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129631
[09:21] <ubotu> New bug: #129632 in easytag (universe) "Easytag 2.1.1-1 has MP3 support disabled" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129632
[09:26] <ubotu> New bug: #129634 in system-config-printer (main) "Needs to properly restart cupsd after changing options" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129634
[09:31] <ubotu> New bug: #129635 in openoffice.org (main) "OpenOffice.org programs fail to start - stuck at splash screen and using 100% CPU" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129635
[10:00] <ubotu> New bug: #129638 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "woodcrest cpu core missing after hibernate " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129638
[10:45] <ubotu> New bug: #129642 in update-manager (main) "Provide a way to select what new distro releases to see" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129642
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #129645 in Ubuntu "Sony Vaio PCV-RS320 Desktop Hard Drive LED always lit despite zero activity" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129645
[10:58] <paulvg> #129618 is written in spanish, is there a standard response for that?
[11:01] <ubotu> New bug: #129646 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  gfloppy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129646
[11:05] <coNP> paulvg: I remember there was, but find nothing now. Basically we said: please report bugs in english.
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #129648 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  StartUp Manager" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129648
[11:13] <paulvg> i'll add a link to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList to that, so he/she can find fellow ubuntu people that speak his/her language
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #129649 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  Deluge" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129649
[11:41] <ubotu> New bug: #129651 in libcompress-zlib-perl (main) "sync request" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129651
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #129652 in Ubuntu "pidgin buddy window group bug when hiding window with tray icon" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129652
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #129653 in Ubuntu "Belkin wireless card F5D6020 not working in gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129653
[12:15] <paulvg> coNP: sorry, got sidetracked, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/129618/comments/1 is the kindest (but still brief enough) thing i could come up with
[12:15] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 129618 in Ubuntu "formar part de la comunitat" [Undecided,Invalid] 
[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #129656 in firefox (main) "Flash player plugin+mplayer plugin (for adio streaming)= force quit!" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129656
[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #129657 in gnome-app-install (main) "gnome-codec-install doesn't work, warning on stderr" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129657
[12:16] <asisak> paulvg: yes. But this the case that would be rejected if filed in english as well
[12:18] <paulvg> well, i tried babelfish to translate but it wasn't portugese either. I think the person is merely trying to download the desktop cd but ok -_-'''
[12:30] <ubotu> New bug: #3913 in serpentine "Missing dependency (libtotem-plparser0)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/3913
[12:41] <ubotu> New bug: #129662 in gnomebaker (universe) "audio-cd copying too paranoid, process never finish" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129662
[12:44] <paulvg> #129631, asking support about a broken java bean on some website, lol -_-'
[01:02] <ubotu> New bug: #129660 in hal (main) "Advansys SCSI host adapter not detected" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129660
[01:02] <ubotu> New bug: #129661 in debianutils (main) "savelog cannot handle absolute pathname for rollover directory" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129661
[01:02] <ubotu> New bug: #129663 in xsp (universe) "Merge xsp 1.2.4-1 (universe) from Debian (unstable)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129663
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #129665 in rhythmbox (main) "Unable to skip the current track on last.fm" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129665
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #129666 in gnome-app-install (main) "Dosbox missing from application list" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129666
[01:26] <ubotu> New bug: #129667 in vbetool (main) "just put the computer on suspend" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129667
[01:26] <ubotu> New bug: #129668 in kdemultimedia (main) "apps play sound but kmix doesn't control it" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129668
[01:26] <ubotu> New bug: #129669 in gnome-app-install (main) ""Show:" textbox has no text after program start" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129669
[01:26] <ubotu> New bug: #129670 in gksu (main) "gksu don't forward signals to subprocess with root privileges" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129670
[01:36] <ubotu> New bug: #129671 in mvtnorm (universe) "Please sync mvtnorm (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129671
[01:41] <ubotu> New bug: #83063 in acidrip "Incorrect link to website in description" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83063
[01:41] <ubotu> New bug: #129673 in gnome-panel (main) "2 edge pixel rows on each side of panel are not clickable" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129673
[01:46] <ubotu> New bug: #129675 in timidity (universe) "Merge timidity 2.13.2-14 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129675
[01:46] <ubotu> New bug: #129676 in gnome-panel (main) "First character in menu items should not be underlined" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129676
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #129677 in kdevelop (universe) "Kdevelop hangs when loading svn controlled project" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129677
[01:53] <stevendm> Hi all, would bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/127731 be qualified for status: "fix released"?
[01:53] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 127731 in network-manager-pptp "[gutsy]  Configuring VPN connections failing" [Undecided,Incomplete] 
[01:53] <stevendm> the original reporter confirms that the issue is solved by upgrading to the latest version of the package.
[01:54] <DktrKranz> stevendm, it seems so. you can ask him to reopen if he still notices that behaviour
[01:56] <ubotu> New bug: #129679 in gnome-panel (main) "Do not show tooltips for application categories in menu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129679
[01:57] <pedro> good morning
[01:58] <Gasten> anyone have an idea of what could be done with Bug #129193?
[01:58] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 129193 in rhythmbox "rhythmbox crashed when playing a m4a-file" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129193
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #129680 in ktoon (universe) "[FTBFS]  ktoon 0.8-1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129680
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #129681 in xawtv (universe) "Merge xawtv 3.95.dfsg.1-4 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129681
[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #129683 in firefox (main) "FF 2.0.0.6 crash "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129683
[02:10] <ubotu> New bug: #129684 in Ubuntu "Mobility AT does not have a menu icon" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129684
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #129686 in libtool (main) "sync request" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129686
[02:16] <ubotu> New bug: #129687 in xsane (main) "xsane menu icon looks ugly" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129687
[02:21] <paulvg> Gasten: That's a SIGTRAP inside Glib, very odd
[02:21] <paulvg> may not have anything to do with rhythmbox
[02:21] <Gasten> oh?
[02:22] <Gasten> Could it be a faulty parameter?
[02:22] <Gasten> I can't really see that Glib would have this kind of bug...
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #129688 in Ubuntu "Usplash shows at 1024x768 when my monitor is 1280x1024 = incorrect proportion" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129688
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #129689 in lirc (main) "lirc install doesn't create working hardware.conf for dev/input devices" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129689
[02:35] <Gasten> paulvg: do you think it have enough information so someone could submit a patch?
[02:36] <paulvg> maybe if it's reproduceable on gutsy, otherwise, no
[02:37] <Gasten> paulvg: Yep. That's where it happened.
[02:37] <Gasten> paulvg: don't really know how reproducable the crash is.
[02:38] <paulvg> he provided the file, though looks like it's copyrighted :/
[02:38] <paulvg> you could try that file in rhythmbox (works fine here) but should that file have been attached?
[02:39] <Gasten> paulvg: Yeah. But notice how I told him to not attach it if it was illegal.
[02:39] <Gasten> paulvg: works fine on my end too.
[02:39] <paulvg> yes, the problem is that it puts lp in a dubious state
[02:40] <Gasten> paulvg: wht do you use?
[02:40] <Gasten> paulvg: I mean, are you on gutsy?
[02:40] <Hobbsee> which bug?
[02:41] <paulvg> not at home, too many 3rd party repositories to ever upgrade in a smooth fashion
[02:41] <paulvg> #129193
[02:41] <Kmos> bug 129193
[02:41] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 129193 in rhythmbox "rhythmbox crashed when playing a m4a-file" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129193
[02:41] <paulvg> ubotu: bug #129193 pretty please
[02:41] <paulvg> ah
[02:44] <Gasten> bbl
[02:45] <ubotu> New bug: #129693 in desktop-effects (main) "Effect selection radio button not saved when appearance preferences dialog is closed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129693
[02:46] <ubotu> New bug: #129691 in mplayer (multiverse) "Please sync mplayer (multiverse) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129691
[03:13] <dipswitch> what's to be done with bug 117148?
[03:13] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 117148 in dpkg "[apport]  dpkg crashed with SIGSEGV in free()" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/117148
[03:15] <seb128> dipswitch: what do you want to know about it?
[03:15] <dipswitch> well, it seems the original reporter hasn't reproduced it either
[03:16] <ubotu> New bug: #129697 in gnome-games "Crash in Chess after program start" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129697
[03:16] <seb128> crash to free() is likely a corruption
[03:16] <dipswitch> makes debugging a bit difficult for me
[03:16] <ubotu> New bug: #129698 in gnome-control-center (main) "Preview in interface tab doesn't show menus" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129698
[03:16] <seb128> ask for a valgrind log
[03:16] <dipswitch> ok, thanks
[03:16] <seb128> if nobody can reproduce it close the bug
[03:16] <Kmos> seb128: bug 128402 , can you do it plz ?
[03:16] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 128402 in feisty-backports "Please backport k3b 1.0.3 from Gutsy to Feisty" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128402
[03:16] <dipswitch> yes, that's the thing, it works for the original reporter now
[03:16] <seb128> Kmos: NO!
[03:16] <Kmos> it's tested by two persons
[03:16] <seb128> Kmos: stop asking on IRC when there is no hurry
[03:16] <Kmos> ok
[03:17] <Kmos> seb128: it's not security, but it fixes many bugs
[03:17] <Hobbsee> hah
[03:17] <seb128> Kmos: and we will deal with it faster if you stop pinging on IRC
[03:17] <Kmos> seb128: ok, do it when you want to
[03:17] <Kmos> :)
[03:17] <Hobbsee> seb128: or you'll blacklist him, for repeatedly asking and being a pain, and not listening to instructions.
[03:18] <seb128> that's make me switch away from what I'm doing and slow me down in my work
[03:18] <seb128> Kmos: I did intend to do that, thanks anyway
[03:18] <seb128> Hobbsee: yeah, something like that
[03:18] <dipswitch> oops pardon the nick, i forgot
[03:19] <Kmos> Hobbsee: so why you would do that? first check them.. they're working
[03:20] <ScottK> Kmos: Has that one been approved by someone from ubuntu-backporters?
[03:20] <Kmos> ScottK: from pitti? devscripts
[03:20] <Kmos> why?
[03:20] <Kmos> ScottK: k3b was approved by jdong
[03:21] <Hobbsee> Kmos: and no, you *dont* need to backport devscripts.  it's a bunch of bloody files.  copy them.
[03:21] <Hobbsee> Kmos: dch is included in devscripts, you know.
[03:21] <Hobbsee> k3b should be sane, but is in no way urgent
[03:21] <Hobbsee> the world does not revolve around Kmos, or any other person around here, and nor do the archive admins.
[03:21] <Kmos> Hobbsee: pitti told me i can file a bug about devscripts
[03:21] <ScottK> Kmos: OK.  If he isn't so urgent about getting it backported, what makes you think you should be bugging people about it.
[03:22] <Hobbsee> Kmos: sure, you can, but i'm not sure of the sanity of it - it may well get rejected.
[03:22] <Kmos> Hobbsee: so that isn't my problem.
[03:22] <Kmos> it can run on feisty
[03:22] <Hobbsee> Kmos: no, no, if you're going to file a backport request, you should ascertain whether its' safe or not.
[03:22] <Hobbsee> yes, but should it?
[03:23] <ScottK> Kmos: It was NOT approved by jdong.
[03:23] <Kmos> Hobbsee: pitti isn't sufficient ? i first talked to him
[03:23] <Hobbsee> is it reasonable that all new dch -i's will now say gutsy, not feisty?
[03:23] <Kmos> ScottK: not yet.. he's been busy, but it was tested by two persons
[03:24] <Hobbsee> Kmos: people are busy.  they dont first respond to you, then everyone else.  that doesnt negate the fact that you still have to follow the rules.
[03:24] <Kmos> Hobbsee: you can change it with vim :)
[03:24] <Hobbsee> Kmos: they shouldnt have to
[03:24] <Kmos> norsetto: she likes me so much =)
[03:24] <ScottK> Kmos: Backports procedure is that one of the people in ubuntu-backporters MUST ack it and subscribe the archive.
[03:24] <ScottK> Kmos: Not YOU.
[03:25] <Hobbsee> Kmos: put *down* the crack pipe, and jump in the total perspective vortex, please
[03:25] <Kmos> Hobbsee: i don't smoke that type of things :)
[03:25] <ScottK> Kmos: YOU are causing real problems here by not following the process.
[03:25] <Hobbsee> Kmos: you sure act like it, at times.
[03:25] <Hobbsee> but oh well
[03:26] <ubotu> New bug: #129699 in ubuntulooks (main) "New style tooltips are not themed correctly due to name change" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129699
[03:26] <ScottK> Hobbsee: I think this needs to go to the CC.  I'm done.
[03:27] <Hobbsee> ScottK: CC, or straight to launchpad, before he files more bugs?
[03:27] <Hobbsee> ScottK: (or both)
[03:27] <Kmos> ScottK: I've been waiting for it.. it was a question of time
[03:27] <ScottK> Both.
[03:28] <ScottK> Kmos: I'm going to do my best to get you ejected from ever doing anything on Ubuntu again.
[03:28] <ScottK> I've had it.
[03:28] <Kmos> ScottK: ok
[03:28] <Kmos> that's the open source power :)
[03:29] <Hobbsee> ScottK: oh, i thought you were in #launchpad
[03:29] <ScottK> Am now
[03:29] <ScottK> coNP: Sorry you had to be here to see it.
[03:29] <Kmos> coNP: people want things that way
[03:29] <seb128> Kmos: you do nothing to make things better though
[03:30] <ubotu> New bug: #129700 in clamav (universe) "(edgy) Virus data update fails" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129700
[03:30] <Hobbsee> seb128: this is a CC issue, presumably?
[03:30] <seb128> Kmos: can't you just open bugs and follow the rules as anybody else? do you have to make noise on IRC every day?
[03:30] <Kmos> seb128: so kill me it's the better way
[03:30] <seb128> Hobbsee: not sure
[03:31] <seb128> Kmos: nobody wants to kill you, but allowing people to get work done is something Ubuntu needs
[03:31] <Kmos> seb128: why I don't follow the rules? just because i've done yesterday a lot of sync requests that are valid ?
[03:31] <seb128> Kmos: no, because you keep pinging people on IRC for one thing
[03:31] <TheMuso> Kmos: That remains to be seen.
[03:31] <Kmos> or just because some hours ago i reported pitti a bug in requestsync and it's fixed now
[03:31] <seb128> Kmos: I've tell you like 10 times in a week to stop doing it
[03:32] <Kmos> seb128: I know.. but sorry to want things updated to have ubuntu better
[03:33] <seb128> Kmos: I've explained you several times already that we do look often at ubuntu-archives bugs and there is no need to ping on IRC
[03:33] <seb128> just file the request and wait that people have time to process them
[03:33] <Kmos> seb128: that's true
[03:33] <seb128> if they are busy speaking to them on IRC will not create a free slot
[03:34] <seb128> quite the contrary since during the time used to reply on IRC there is no work done
[03:35] <pedro> how can i remove the "affect upstream" in a bug?
[03:35] <coNP> pedro: which bug?
[03:35] <ScottK> seb128: While you are on the topic, I'd appreciate it if you would unsubscribe the archive from bug 128402.  Kmos isn't in ubuntu-backporters and should have never done that.
[03:35] <seb128> pedro: you can't, reject the task
[03:35] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 128402 in k3b "Please backport k3b 1.0.3 from Gutsy to Feisty" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128402
[03:35] <pedro> seb128: k thanks
[03:35] <ScottK> Sorry for the bother.
[03:36] <seb128> ScottK: done, no problem
[03:36] <seb128> pedro: good work BTW
[03:36] <ScottK> Thanks.
[03:37] <pedro> seb128: oh thanks you, i'm still missing some bugzilla features :-P
[03:37] <seb128> pedro: do you know there is some greaskmonkey script to add stock replies to launchpad (like the ones on bugzilla.gnome.org)?
[03:37] <pedro> it's been fun for now
[03:37] <pedro> seb128: i'm just editing your script cause is a little out of date
[03:37] <coNP> hmm... *I* definitely need them :)
[03:38] <seb128> pedro: what browser do you use?
[03:38] <pedro> as soon as i have it i'll send it
[03:38] <seb128> pedro: http://outflux.net/greasemonkey
[03:38] <seb128> lp_stockreplies.user.js  there
[03:38] <pedro> by now firefox, my ephy is broken :-)
[03:38] <pedro> ok let me see
[03:38] <seb128> it's a powerful version from keescook
[03:38] <seb128> you can add stock actions from the UI
[03:39] <seb128> you have entries, and button etc added on the pages
[03:39] <seb128> it doesn't work on epiphany for some reasons though
[03:39] <seb128> works fine in firefox
[03:39] <coNP> Does it use the wiki to fetch stock entries or some older version?
[03:39] <seb128> coNP: none, you have to create your list
[03:39] <seb128> the old version I'm using has a list coded
[03:40] <pedro> cool i'll try it now
[03:40] <coNP> Anyway, it sounds nice and very helpful.
[03:40] <seb128> the one from keescook allow you to create replies from your browser
[03:40] <seb128> yes
[03:40] <ubotu> New bug: #129702 in Ubuntu ""Loading" mouse pointer's hotspot is off" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129702
[03:40] <pedro> i think i'm gonna stole the one from b.g.o
[03:41] <seb128> pedro: what from b.g.o?
[03:41] <pedro> the greasemonkey script
[03:41] <seb128> oh, they have one?
[03:41] <pedro> yes andre have one
[03:41] <seb128> what is it doing?
[03:41] <seb128> coNP: bugzilla.gnome.org
[03:41] <pedro> i see it in guadec let me ask him
[03:43] <cjwatson> so I know that there have been problems with Kmos' work, and I've sent him some mail about it myself, but I'm very disappointed to hear stuff like "I'm going to do my best to get you ejected from ever doing anything on Ubuntu again" here
[03:43] <cjwatson> ScottK: ^--
[03:44] <cjwatson> I think that's out of order
[03:44] <ogra> ++
[03:44] <ScottK> cjwatson: I agree and I'm sorry.
[03:44] <ScottK> I have had it.
[03:45] <ScottK> He has consumed probably a third to a half of the time I have available for Ubuntu for the last serveral days.  I've tried to reason with him and failed.
[03:45] <ubotu> New bug: #129705 in beagle (main) "beagled crashing trying to start evolution backend" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129705
[03:47] <cjwatson> I understand that it can be frustrating, but I didn't want to let that go unchallenged
[03:47] <cjwatson> private letting-off-steam is one thing, but ...
[03:48] <ScottK> Agreed and as I said, I'm sorry for having said it in public.  It was inappropriate.
[04:01] <ubotu> New bug: #129707 in Ubuntu "Wish: Smooth progress bar progressing while booting" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129707
[04:01] <ubotu> New bug: #129708 in Ubuntu "Matshita DVD-RAM UJ-850S Not Recognized" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129708
[04:03] <pascal80> In what package are the mouse cursors in gutsy?
[04:06] <ubotu> New bug: #129709 in Ubuntu "gutsy: kernel.log syslog filling up with repeated ata messages" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129709
[04:06] <ubotu> New bug: #129710 in gtk+2.0 (main) "New style tooltips introduce bug with Volume Applet" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129710
[04:11] <ubotu> New bug: #129712 in xapian-bindings (universe) "Sync request: xapian-bindings (1.0.2-1) from debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129712
[04:16] <ubotu> New bug: #129711 in kopete "Kopete crashes upon connecting to MSN" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129711
[04:16] <ubotu> New bug: #129713 in xapian-omega (universe) "Sync request: xapian-omega (1.0.2-1) from debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129713
[04:16] <ubotu> New bug: #129714 in kernel-latest-2.6-hppa (universe) "Kernels 2.6.20 cause Ultra 40 to hang on boot" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129714
[04:35] <ubotu> New bug: #129438 in totem (main) "totem crashed with SIGSEGV in g_markup_escape_text()" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129438
[04:45] <ubotu> New bug: #129719 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 (main) "[Gutsy]  performance of new rt2500pci driver is poor" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129719
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #129721 in xen-meta (universe) "[gutsy]  ubuntu-xen-server still references xen 3.0" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129721
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #129722 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "snd-hda-intel noise in left sound channel when resuming from hibernate" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129722
[05:30] <ubotu> New bug: #129723 in linux-meta (main) "sata_nv port resets on 2.6.20-16.29" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129723
[05:36] <ubotu> New bug: #129725 in hibernate (universe) "hibernate makes ps/2 to usb keyboard connection fail" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129725
[05:38] <bdmurray> thekorn: about bug 129341 do you my original description is related to 109547?
[05:38] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 129341 in bughelper "bughelper would benefit from the ability to inherit clues from a clue file not named after a package" [Wishlist,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129341
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #129728 in Ubuntu "installer crashed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129728
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #129731 in ebox (universe) ""pkill: invalid user name: ebox" on installation" [Low,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129731
[06:07] <ubotu> New bug: #129617 in metacity (main) "metacity crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 92502)" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129617
[06:07] <ubotu> New bug: #129729 in Ubuntu "ark can't extract password protected rar archives" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129729
[06:07] <ubotu> New bug: #129730 in gcalctool (main) "Th e file a bug report in gcalctool, in the latest trial version of  Gutsy, doesn't work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129730
[06:07] <ubotu> New bug: #129732 in openoffice.org (main) "unable to create hyperlinks to files in a relative context" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129732
[06:07] <ubotu> New bug: #129733 in ebox (universe) "web pages should declare correct encoding" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129733
[06:07] <ubotu> New bug: #129734 in ebox-network (universe) "Exception on Routes, Gateways, and Balance traffic" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129734
[06:11] <ubotu> New bug: #129735 in openoffice.org-dictionaries (main) "[gutsy]  openoffice.org-hyphenation-it installation fails" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129735
[06:11] <paulvg> trial version of gutsy?
[06:13] <thekorn> bdmurray: yes, my idea is: when we add names to clues or group them in different files,
[06:14] <thekorn> then you can import/inherit clues by their names, for example: for a new kernel
[06:14] <bdmurray> paulvg: probably mean tribe 3
[06:14] <paulvg> or a daily, yes -_-'
[06:14] <bdmurray> thekorn: okay, cool.  That wasn't clear to me.
[06:15] <thekorn> you just do "inherit all clues with id '2.6.2*'
[06:15] <ubotu> New bug: #129737 in ebox (universe) "deleting a backup throws exception: "invalid characters in input"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129737
[06:16] <thekorn> bdmurray: that's my idea, don't know if thiis is what you  	intended
[06:16] <ubotu> New bug: #129600 in evolution (main) "evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in camel_message_info_free() (dup-of: 70776)" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129600
[06:16] <ubotu> New bug: #129736 in evolution (main) "Evolution-Gutsy: Email Subjects Do Not Display" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129736
[06:18] <bdmurray> thekorn: maybe - it seems like there still might be a case where you want a very generic clue file (different languages?) than any search _could_ inherit
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #129738 in ebox (universe) "purging package leaves log files behind" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129738
[06:25] <ubotu> New bug: #129739 in ebox (universe) "purging ebox kills my system apache" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129739
[06:25] <ubotu> New bug: #129740 in ebox-network (universe) "package installation prints perl warning" [Low,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129740
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #129741 in turkey (universe) "[gutsy]  turkey is not installable" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129741
[06:40] <ubotu> New bug: #129742 in turkey (universe) "[ftbfs]  turkey ftbfs on gutsy" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129742
[06:51] <ubotu> New bug: #129744 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Upgrade to latest Kernel 2-6-20-16 (Feisty Fawn) crashes on loading OS" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129744
[07:14] <lazin> r
[07:16] <bddebian> Boo
[07:17] <paulvg> *eek*
[07:18] <bdmurray> Boo who?
[07:18] <bddebian> Don't cry! :)
[07:18] <bdmurray> heh
[07:19] <paulvg> so what should be done with bug 129631, mark as duplicate to bug 48316 and have that bug affect feisty and edgy, or reject it (since the problem is with a remote server side program)?
[07:20] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 129631 in firefox "Firefox differs from Mozilla version in Feisty, Edgy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129631
[07:20] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 48316 in firefox "Dapper firefox user-agent is malformed" [Medium,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/48316
[07:21] <paulvg> imho it would be wrong to patch feisty and edgy
[07:21] <bdmurray> paulvg: looking
[07:21] <paulvg> that's changing the rules after the game has been played
[07:21] <paulvg> gutsy hasn't been released yet, so it can be fixed there
[07:22] <bdmurray> I thought the OR said it works with Gutsy.
[07:23] <paulvg> yes, because OR had the package from after the fix in gutsy was committed, so imho 48316 should just be rejected then
[07:23] <paulvg> nothing to change about it anymore
[07:26] <bdmurray> I don't see anything about the fix being committed in gutsy other than the status of 48316.
[07:26] <paulvg> a 9MB update down everyones throat just to change the default UA of a browser that has been released and pressed on CDs seems wrong :)
[07:27] <paulvg> there are 2 patches in the comments
[07:27] <bdmurray> That does not been the bug should be in a fix committed state
[07:27] <paulvg> ?
[07:27] <bdmurray> The patch should be applied to a code branch for it to be fix committed
[07:28] <paulvg> if you run gutsy now, try help > about mozilla firefox and see what your ua is
[07:28] <paulvg> if the release is in parentheses, it's done
[07:29] <bdmurray> If that is the case the bug should be fix released instead of fix committed
[07:29] <paulvg> ah yes
[07:30] <bdmurray> The last comment in that bug report is from Ubuntu's Firefox maintainer though, so I am skeptical of it being applied anywhere.
[07:30] <paulvg> oh i see
[07:30] <paulvg> strange then that OR of 12963 reports that gutsy works
[07:30] <ubotu> New bug: #129746 in evolution (main) "can't get out of read-only mode in Evolution calendar" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129746
[07:30] <ubotu> New bug: #129747 in Ubuntu "USB flash drives disappear after some time, or after Net browsing, and cannot be remounted." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129747
[07:31] <bdmurray> I'm starting a virtual machine now.
[07:36] <bdmurray> paulvg: Incidentally what release are you running?
[07:36] <paulvg> 7.04
[07:36] <bdmurray> I don't know Finnish but the page seems to work in Gutsy for me.
[07:37] <paulvg> could you paste the ua please?
[07:39] <bdmurray> http://pastebin.com/m70a16a30
[07:41] <ubotu> New bug: #129748 in Ubuntu "Partizione che da problemi.." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129748
[07:41] <bdmurray> paulvg: so the ua seems to have changed a fair bit btwn feisty and gutsy.
[07:43] <paulvg> imho os version should come after Firefox/w.x.y.z but ok, we'll see what the firefox maintainer decides, i'm testing the ua on feisty
[07:45] <bdmurray> paulvg: 129631 should probably be fixed released as it works with gutsy and the other should not be fix committed
[07:46] <paulvg> yes the map loads allright
[07:46] <ubotu> New bug: #129749 in firefox (main) ""Recently closed tabs" is always greyed-out" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129749
[07:46] <ubotu> New bug: #129751 in snort (universe) "Please sync snort (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129751
[07:47] <paulvg> but 129631 is about edgy and feisty, a fix hasn't and probably never will be released for those
[07:48] <bdmurray> right 129631 doesn't meet the criteria for a stable release update but possibly could be a backport candidate
[07:48] <paulvg> perhaps
[07:48] <paulvg> but the thing is, that it's not up to any of us to fix but rather the admin of that website
[07:49] <paulvg> backporting the gutsy version could break browser detection for other sites, that's what i meant with changing the rules after the game has been played
[07:49] <paulvg> (well the backporting doesn't do that, but if anyone installs it...)
[07:50] <bdmurray> ah, I see your point there
[07:52] <ScottK> Speaking as one of the backports approvers....
[07:52] <ScottK> I'd say not a bug.
[07:52] <ScottK> If a web server crashes because a browser gives it a bad ID string, the web server is severely broken.
[07:52] <paulvg> ok, marking as invalid then, thank you
[07:53] <paulvg> well, the string isn't bad as long as it doesn't have embedded nulls in it (in my book) but yes, the site is still broken :)
[07:53] <ScottK> That and we backport entire versions, not single fixes, so backporting firefox would take a lot of testing.
[07:55] <paulvg> yes, i may have to rebuild those packages that i build against firefox-dev myself -_-, thanks but no thanks ;)
[07:55] <ubotu> New bug: #129752 in wget (main) "wget does not handle IDN domains" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129752
[07:58] <bdmurray> paulvg: which particular bug are you marking as invalid?
[07:58] <paulvg> bug 129631
[07:58] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 129631 in firefox "Firefox differs from Mozilla version in Feisty, Edgy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129631
[07:58] <paulvg> making up a nice explanation for the comment
[08:00] <bdmurray> and which status are you going to use?
[08:02] <paulvg> invalid, the only way to can it
[08:02] <bdmurray> Wouldn't 'Won't Fix' be good?
[08:03] <paulvg> that'd be awesome, that's exactly what has happened, but there's no won't fix on the list :s
[08:04] <paulvg> or another way of saying "Not Our Bug"
[08:06] <bdmurray> hmm, there is a won't fix status but it must be available to only certain teams
[08:06] <paulvg> btw, i'm not a lp beta tester yet, i'm going to apply, but first things first ;)
[08:06] <ubotu> New bug: #129755 in gthumb (main) "set as wallpaper doesn't work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129755
[08:06] <bdmurray> what do you have in your list?
[08:07] <paulvg> new, incomplete, invalid, confirmed, in progress, fix committed, fix released
[08:15] <ubotu> New bug: #129758 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  pocketsphinx" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129758
[08:21] <ubotu> New bug: #129759 in gnucash (universe) "new upstream release 2.2.0" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129759
[08:26] <ubotu> New bug: #129760 in compizconfig-settings-manager (universe) "Enable "Viewport mouse switch" freeze the system" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129760
[08:26] <ubotu> New bug: #129761 in Ubuntu "Tali ends to early" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129761
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #129765 in mpg123 (multiverse) "Move mpg123 to universe" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129765
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #129766 in mozilla-firefox (main) "URL bar stops processing new URLs entered" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129766
[08:32] <paulvg> bdmurray: bug 129752 should have wishlist severity, but i can't do that either
[08:32] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 129752 in wget "wget does not handle IDN domains" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129752
[08:34] <paulvg> also i can't attached the upstream bug tracker url
[08:34] <paulvg> -d
[08:35] <paulvg> probably a wishlist thing in lp ;)
[08:45] <ubotu> New bug: #129768 in Ubuntu "Title Bar is inacessable" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129768
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #129769 in xscreensaver (main) "newly installed xscreensaver errors without /usr/share/backgrounds" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129769
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #129772 in playmp3list (universe) "playmp3list crashes on folder navigation" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129772
[09:06] <ubotu> New bug: #129771 in ircii-pana (universe) "remote IRC servers can execute arbitrary commands" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129771
[09:15] <ubotu> New bug: #129777 in gnome-screensaver (main) "Dual screen clones freeze" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129777
[09:18] <bdmurray> paulvg: back now
[09:20] <bdmurray> paulvg: how did you go about trying to link it upstream?
[09:25] <coNP> bddebian: lp seems to not know the savannah bug tracker
[09:25] <coNP> sorry, s/bddebian/bdmurray/
[09:25] <bddebian> :-)
[09:25] <ubotu> New bug: #129770 in gnome-terminal (main) "gnome-terminal crashed with signal 7" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129770
[09:27] <coNP> signal 7 is bus error, isn't it?
[09:27] <coNP> that is not a program error IMHO
[09:27] <bdmurray> coNP: I noticed that too.  I wonder if lp just doesn't know it in general or if it is package specific.
[09:27] <coNP> Sorry for being so slow :)
[09:29] <coNP> but it states "every time I run"
[09:33] <paulvg> bdmurray: oh sorry, i used the "Also affects + Upstream..." link, maybe it can be linked with a debian bug instead, but i don't know, the report is a bit vague
[09:35] <paulvg> coNP: maybe it's by design, try 'd'<tab>
[09:35] <paulvg> then keep pressing tab, it goes through the nicks
[09:35] <coNP> paulvg: oh, did not mean that. But thanks
[09:35] <paulvg> bdmurray is 'bd'<tab><tab>
[09:35] <coNP> I confirmed wget bug.
[09:36] <paulvg> i guess thats a wishlist in launchpad.net/launchpad
[09:36] <paulvg> but it hasnt been filed yet
[09:37] <coNP> yes, it is set high
[09:37] <paulvg> where?
[09:37] <coNP> bug 45386
[09:37] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 45386 in malone "Add GNU savannah to the remote bug watches" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/45386
[09:37] <paulvg> oh, thanks
[09:38] <paulvg> ah in malone, that's why i didn't find it
[09:40] <paulvg> yes, but imho sabdfl's reasoning is understandable
[09:40] <coNP> sure
[09:41] <coNP> I don't wanted to say "it is wrong", just "it is a pity" :)
[09:41] <ScottK> Personally, I think he's wrong, but it's his toy, he can play with it however he wants to.
[09:41] <ScottK> LP, IMO, can never be what he wants it to be unless it's open sourced.
[09:41] <paulvg> it could have been GPLv3'ed already but no one is under any obligation to release it in public
[09:42] <ScottK> Sure, no obligation at all.
[09:42] <paulvg> lp can never accomplish sabdfl's ultimate goal, floss or not
[09:43] <paulvg> lp itself, i mean
[09:43] <coNP> Yeah, you need some rockets to be launched as well to reach the outer space.
[09:45] <paulvg> lmao, that might do the trick, maybe add some intergalactic vortexes with accompanying starbases as well
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #129120 in notification-daemon (main) "notification-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129120
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #129783 in knetworkmanager (main) "[Gutsy]  Knetworkmanager fails to join wireless network" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129783
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #129466 in gnome-panel (main) "gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129466
[09:57] <bdmurray> coNP: is there a reason why you used confirmed instead of triaged?
[09:58] <coNP> bdmurray: which bug??
[09:58] <coNP> But I guess no reason but an old custom :(
[09:59] <bdmurray> coNP: the wget mentioned earlier bug 129752
[09:59] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 129752 in wget "wget does not handle IDN domains" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129752
[10:00] <coNP> Yes. Because I was not able to add upstream bug link. But that should be triaged, anyway
[10:00] <coNP> (Since the link is in the description)
[10:08] <bdmurray> coNP: great, thanks.  I was just curious about the process.
[10:08] <coNP> What process?
[10:10] <ScottK> bdmurray: I do think it's sometimes hard to tell if you've got from "Yep, that's definitely a problem" - confirmed to "Yep, and that's all a dev needs to know to fix it." - triaged.
[10:11] <coNP> ScottK: isn't the former called "confirmed" now?
[10:11] <ScottK> Right.
[10:14] <bdmurray> ScottK: In my opinion it really depends on the package I guess.  There are generaly things to ask for when debugging Xorg problems and when we have those it can be triaged.  But with wget perhaps confirming is best.
[10:15] <ScottK> Personally, on that one, I'm not entirely certain if it's a bug or a feature request.
[10:15] <bdmurray> The distinction between Confirmed and Triaged because more valuable as the number of bugs increases.
[10:15] <bdmurray> s/because/becomes/
[10:15] <ScottK> Right.
[10:16] <ScottK> Given the inherent security issues with IDN domains, it might be safer not to support it.
[10:18] <paulvg> it's a feature request, not a bug
[10:18] <keescook> I'd say that's a feature request... they're even offering a suggested library to handle it.  :)
[10:19] <coNP> Should I set it back wishlist instead of low then? I think it is not very important, since depends entirely on upstream if they want to support IDN domains...
[10:20] <paulvg> i'd ++ that
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #129785 in thunderbird-quickfile (universe) "[ftbfs]  thunderbird-quickfile in gutsy" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129785
[10:38] <ScottK> norsetto: What's you next step on this bug ^^^
[10:41] <norsetto> ScottK: just attached
[10:42] <ScottK> norsetto: So do we all.  Does the current version of the plug-in work with Thunderbird 2.0.  It's pretty old.
[10:43] <norsetto> ScottK: this I don't know, I don't have T2.0 installed
[10:43] <ScottK> Then randomly bumping versioned dependencies probably isn't the best approach.
[10:43] <ScottK> That'll fix the building problem, but if it doesn't work, it hasn't accomplished much.
[10:43] <ScottK> I
[10:44] <ScottK> I'd suggest looking to the upstream to see if they have a newer version or what they recommend as far as what versions to use it with.
[10:44] <ScottK> norsetto: ^^^
[10:44] <norsetto> ScottK: I see what you mean
[10:44] <ScottK> Great.
[10:44] <ScottK> Then have at it.
[10:45] <norsetto> ScottK: but this means that the whole logic of the package would have to be redone
[10:45] <ScottK> Qute possibly.
[10:45] <ScottK> Quite even
[10:46] <norsetto> ScottK: I happy with that if you are; I rather prefer to have it hardcoded in debian/control personally
[10:46] <ScottK> I suspect that depending on how active upstream is, the correct answer will either be remove the package or update it to a new version.
[10:48] <norsetto> ScottK: btw, is Adam still around? Should he mind if I look at this?
[10:48] <ScottK> Dunno.  It hasn't been touched since Edgy, so I wouldn't worry about it.
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #129788 in Ubuntu "no libflashsupport package in Ubuntu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129788
[10:51] <norsetto> ScottK: it is now an official plugin (v0.17), I think we can safely delete it from the repository
[10:52] <ScottK> What do you mean, "Official plugin"?
[10:53] <norsetto> ScottK: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/348
[10:55] <ScottK> Those should still be packaged.
[10:55] <ScottK> See the enigmail package for another one.
[10:56] <ubotu> New bug: #129790 in gnome-utils (main) "gnome-screenshot crashed with SIGSEGV in free()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129790
[11:01] <ubotu> New bug: #129792 in keyjnote (universe) "[sync request]  Keyjnote 0.10.0 - Debian Unstable" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129792
[11:01] <ubotu> New bug: #129793 in Ubuntu "Upgrade to Feisty from Edgy failed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129793
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #129794 in openssh (main) "ssh-keyscan default type is unuseful" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129794
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #129796 in kdebase (main) "KDE/konqueror doesn't hide nodes listed in .hidden files" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129796
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #129800 in compiz (main) "Compiz/interactivity greatly diminished under cpu load" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129800
[11:11] <ubotu> New bug: #129797 in vlc (universe) "vlc crops the video output of some encoded mp4 files, but totem works fine" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129797
[11:11] <ubotu> New bug: #129799 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  libdca" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129799
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #129801 in compiz (main) "kde-window-decorator crashes in gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129801
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #129802 in Ubuntu "Time and Date no longer correct since downloading Ubuntu 6.06 update" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129802
[11:25] <norsetto> ScottK: sorry to bother again (feel free to kmits), I got disconnected; did I miss something you said?
[11:25] <ScottK> Those should still be packaged.
[11:25] <ScottK> See the enigmail package for another one.
[11:25] <ubotu> New bug: #129803 in netbase (main) "WWW very unreliable after router change" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129803
[11:31] <ubotu> New bug: #129804 in Ubuntu "Time and Date no longer correct since downloading Ubuntu 6.06 update" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129804
[11:31] <ubotu> New bug: #129805 in sound-juicer (main) "Bug in passing options to oggenc" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129805
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #129808 in Ubuntu "update manager stops functioning, wont die, then cascade of bad things" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129808
[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #129809 in Ubuntu "No installation on a Live CD" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129809
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #129810 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129810
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #129811 in Ubuntu "USB 2.0 MP4 player unmount during transfer" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129811