[12:56] <mgallagh> I have an issue with an edubuntu server and a thin client, the thin client boots to a certain point(starts splash screen) but then falls back to initramfs
[12:59] <mgallagh> is there an ltsp log  that i can track"
[04:20] <sbalneav> Evening all
[11:42] <pips1> RichEd-1: ping
[12:14] <multik> good day everyone
[12:14] <multik> greetings ogra.
[12:16] <smp> hi..
[12:17] <smp> r u there..
[12:18] <multik> ?
[12:19] <smp> i need to know regarding ubuntu's/debian's network installation
[12:19] <multik> uff, sorry, i'm newbie myself.
[12:20] <smp> ok..
[12:22] <pips1> smp: ask your question, if someone knows, they will answer
[12:23] <smp> well ..
[12:23] <smp> i did pxe booting..
[12:24] <smp> and i got success..but it is asking for mirror link from where it will download the files..
[12:24] <smp> which i dont want..i want to do all the things using my LAN only
[12:25] <pips1> download what files? do you want to install new applications?
[12:26] <smp> is thre nbdy who knw installation from the mounted iso image from the server itself..
[12:26] <smp> pipsl:no..
[12:27] <smp> pipsl:I wnt to install base system only..
[12:27] <pips1> smp: do you want to install a thin client & terminal server ? or do you want to install a workstation?
[12:28] <smp> i have 10 comps..and i wnt to install ubuntu/debian from the server..
[12:28] <smp> my clients dont have cdroms..
[12:28] <smp> i setup dhcp server & tftp server..
[12:28] <pips1> oh, you want to install 10 workstations over the local network
[12:29] <pips1> ?
[12:29] <smp> exactly
[12:29] <smp> my m/c can boot frm the network
[12:29] <pips1> and you say that you managed to boot a "live" session in one of the networked pcs?
[12:31] <smp> actually wen i did pxe booting...it was asking for mirror site..that menu came after choosing up the keyboard layout and setting up the locale..
[12:32] <pips1> hmm. you sould be able to specify your local server as a repository for the debian packages ...
[12:32] <edistar> is there an easy howto how to set up the edubuntu box to login via ldap?
[12:32] <smp> so..initial installation files are geting frm the tftp dir..
[12:33] <smp> pipsl:yah..but i want to install it from mounted cd image
[12:34] <smp> i dnt have that option to set up local repository in my server
[12:34] <pips1> smp: sorry I haven't done this myself. I can't help... :-/ however, this question is not specific to edubuntu, so you might find someone in another channel that can help you. have you tried to ask in #ubuntu?
[12:35] <smp> ok...that channel i tried..but..i am not getting any help..do u know another channel?
[12:36] <pips1> hmm. did you try any google search for the topic? didn't that bring up any results? (some documentation or some thread in the ubuntuforums.org...)?
[12:38] <smp> pipsl:i got one doc from ubutu docs but that is not woring..
[12:38] <smp> and ubutu is using casper but in debian i dnt have that option
[12:38] <pips1> smp :-(
[12:39] <smp> nway thanks pipsl.
[12:40] <pips1> :-)
[12:40] <pips1> edistar: edubuntu box = thin client? or workstation?
[12:43] <pips1> edistar: did you see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication ?
[12:44] <juliux> edistar, what do you think about a second edubuntu weekend during the ubucon in krefeld?
[12:58] <srimalj> hi all
[12:58] <srimalj> I'm intrested in translating Edubuntu to the Sinhala language (the language used in Sri Lanka). This is a funded project
[12:58] <srimalj> How can I get started with technical information
[12:58] <srimalj> is there a list?
[01:00] <srimalj> ga/
[01:00] <srimalj> hellooo
[01:00] <srimalj> anybody home?????
[01:29] <pips1> srimalj: sorry I was busy ... sounds great! you got a funded translation project. fantastic.
[01:31] <pips1> srimalj: what do you want to translate...? do you want to translate the desktop/software in edubuntu? do you want to translate the documentation for edubuntu? where do you want to start? :-)
[01:35] <srimalj> actually we would like to translate some educational suites in edubuntu (fiesty)
[01:35] <srimalj> that would benefit rural sri lankan children
[01:35] <srimalj> and we want this work to be included in fiture releases
[01:36] <pips1> srimalj: there are lots of resources for translators online. there is launchpad, which enables you to contribute translations of the software, see https://translations.launchpad.net/
[01:36] <srimalj> ifthere is anything that can be upstreamed back to the main Ubuntu project then that should also happen
[01:36] <srimalj> tnx i already registered an account on launchpad
[01:36] <srimalj> and a project
[01:36] <srimalj> Sinhala Edubuntu
[01:36] <pips1> nice
[01:37] <srimalj> So when we upload po files to LaunchPad does that get included to the Ubuntu releases too?
[01:37] <pips1> there are also language specific mailing lists available for translators ("localisation lists")... see https://lists.ubuntu.com/
[01:37] <srimalj> we want to be able to make a Sinhala Edubuntu live cd also
[01:37] <pips1> yes, the translations get included
[01:37] <srimalj> automatically?
[01:38] <srimalj> i dont think the whole edubuntu project can be translated at once
[01:38] <srimalj> so we'd like to focus on some crucial educational apps initially
[01:38] <srimalj> and proceed
[01:38] <pips1> I don't know how automated it is and what the exact process is... you can find out from people with ubuntu translation experience though :-)
[01:39] <srimalj> cool tnx
[01:39] <pips1> try searching the mailing list archives of the translators: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
[01:39] <srimalj> currently no sinhala list
[01:40] <srimalj> so i guess this is a first
[01:40] <pips1> and if you don't find useful information there, join the list and ask :-)
[01:40] <pips1> no sinhala list... well, start one if there are going to be several of you :-)
[01:41] <pips1> srimalj: did you see our introductory page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Edubuntu/Translation ?
[01:42] <pips1> srimalj: hope this helped... I need to go eat now, cu later
[01:45] <srimalj> tnx a lot
[01:45] <srimalj> that was very help full
[01:45] <srimalj> u may see me more often on this room :)
[02:08] <jinty> hi ogra, any word on the schooltool packages?
[02:16] <edistar> is gutsy useable yet?
[02:41] <ogra> edistar, usable for playing with it and testing yes, for production use, no
[02:58] <multik> hi ogra
[02:58] <multik> you're alive ;)
[02:59] <ogra> extremly busy... but yes, alive
[03:00] <multik> ok, lets talk in the evening then, shall we. I'm dying here as well.
[03:00] <multik> Feckin' integration :)
[03:08] <gert> Hi, need some help to set up sound on thin Client. Thin Client is running on edubuntu 7.04 server, which has no sound card. I want to connect to a windows server and get the sound in my thin client. This seems impssible because there is no sound daemon running on edubuntu. Any idea's??
[03:09] <ogra> the sound daemon runs on te client if there is sound HW we have a driver for
[03:11] <gert> ok, so I have to install the thin clients sound card drivers in the server's /opt/ltsp directory?
[03:15] <ogra> no
[03:15] <ogra> they are there already
[03:15] <ogra> but i doubt you can have windows produce anything usable thats playable on the client
[03:16] <gert> well if I rdesktop from my suse desktop there's no problem
[03:16] <ogra> then it should work as well if you run rdesktop as login manager on the thin client
[03:18] <gert> no it doesn't. There's always an error message saying there's no sound card or the sound card is already in use
[03:19] <ogra> what kind of soudncard is that ?
[03:19] <ogra> and do you have sound in normal LTSP mode if ou use it as a client ?
[03:19] <gert> sis9017
[03:19] <ogra> ouch
[03:19] <ogra> (you mean 7019 i guess :) )
[03:20] <gert> yes 'm sorry
[03:20] <ogra> there is no working driver for recent 2.6 kernels for this thing
[03:20] <ogra> (its one of the worst HW's i know btw ... ) what kind of client is that ? ebox 2300 ?
[03:21] <gert> I don't know exactly, the manual only says 'TU'
[03:22] <ogra> http://www.compactpc.com.tw/ebox-2300.htm
[03:22] <gert> so the only way I can get around this is to use a 2.4 kernel
[03:23] <ogra> which wont work in ltsp5 ... or latest 4.2
[03:23] <gert> 4.1?
[03:23] <ogra> bith use udev etc ... there is no way to make either work with a 2.4 kernel
[03:24] <ogra> no idea if 4.1 did support 2.4 kernels ...
[03:24] <ogra> i dont touch that old code
[03:24] <ogra> (nobody does actually)
[03:25] <gert> ok thanks a lot, at least now I know I don't have to waste any more time
[03:25] <ogra> i'm wroking on to port the sis7019 driver to gutsy, but its still not clear we can ship it, the only code i have isnt licensed and has no copyright info at all
[03:26] <gert> ok thanks man!
[03:26] <ogra> if you have a thing like the one i pasted the link for there are at least chances it will half way work in gutsy
[03:26] <gert> but not in feisty
[03:26] <ogra> nope
[03:28] <gert> I just took a look, that's the thing I have
[03:28] <ogra> that thing is carppy hardware,the one example i have here to work with needs to do everything in CPU so sound gets choppy if you move the mouse etc
[03:28] <ogra> its a shame they sell it for so much
[03:28] <ogra> thats not even worth $50 and you can get way better things for 20 bucks more
[03:28] <gert> You have any better suggestions for thin clients?
[03:30] <ogra> anything from disklessworkstations.com thats not teh e2300 is good (but a bit more expensive) and there are varoiuus companies seeling stuff from $120 to 150 thats rather in the 500Mhz area and has proper pci chips
[03:30] <ogra> even geode systms will serve you beter than this thing
[03:31] <multik> even linuterm :)
[03:31] <ogra> since we (ltsp upstream) work very closely with disklessworkstations.com i got such a thing from them to make sure it works at least half way in gutsy ...
[03:32] <ogra> but from 200Mhz for *everything* you cant expect miracles
[03:33] <gert> no of course not but it has to be cheap because we want to implement them in schools
[03:33] <ogra> right
[03:34] <gert> anyway, thanks a lot for your time guys!!
[03:36] <edistar_> how do I set up edubuntu to use an external dhcp server and only use one NIC?
[03:38] <edistar> anyone have a link to a howto or so?
[03:43] <t94xr> disable the other NIC in networking
[03:43] <t94xr> and assign it to DHCP
[03:43] <t94xr> simple?
[03:53] <ogra> t94xr, not that simple ... you need to set up the new dhcp server for netbooting as well
[03:54] <edistar> ogra: where do I find what I need to set in my external dhcp server?
[03:54] <edistar> the tftp and so on will still be on the edubuntu server
[03:54] <ogra> what ind of dhcp server is that ?
[03:55] <edistar> ogra: it's an ipcop ;)
[03:56] <edistar> I just need to know what exactly the options for the dhcp are
[03:56] <ogra> edistar, no idea then ... it needs to know about filename and root-path at least
[03:56] <ogra> likely also abut next-server
[03:56] <ogra> pull the paths for that out of the /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf file
[03:57] <edistar> ogra: thanks
[08:39] <boxrock> can anyone tell me where to find docs for RAID installation on fiesty?
[08:43] <LaserJock> I'm not sure there really are any
[08:43] <LaserJock> but you could ask #ubuntu-server
[08:49] <IceLink> hey there
[08:49] <Shadow31> I need to increase the number of maximum sessions on my LTSP server. How can I do this?
[08:49] <IceLink> can somebody name me some edubuntu-apps?
[09:01] <LaserJock> IceLink: gcompris, KDE edu, tuxpaint, tuxmath, LTSP
[09:02] <LaserJock> Shadow31: do you mean hardware wise or in the actual LTSP server?
[09:02] <IceLink> what's gcompris?
[09:03] <LaserJock> it's a great suite of games and educational programs for kids
[09:03] <IceLink> ah this is what i wanted, thanks
[09:12] <IceLink> lol
[09:12] <IceLink> you didn't say that it's 2++
[11:16] <sprik> ciao a tutti
[11:16] <sprik> hello to all