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| Riddell | elcuco: kubuntu.org doesn't use drupal | 12:22 |
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| Riddell | elcuco: details on how to upload to revu are at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MOTU/Packages/REVU | 12:23 |
| Riddell | let us know if you get stuck | 12:23 |
| elcuco | Riddell: i should ask at #ubuntu-devel, since i want the brown theme for drupal :) | 12:24 |
| Riddell | elcuco: newz2000 is the guy to ask | 12:24 |
| elcuco | thanks (he is offline atm) | 12:25 |
| mhb | ryanakca: I actually look forward to the day someone gets epiphany and finally creates a simple browser for KDE | 12:25 |
| elcuco | konqueror is simple enough :) | 12:26 |
| mhb | elcuco: it is quite simple, but I'd love a faster one, that does browsing well and that's all. | 12:26 |
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| ryanakca | Umm. can someone 'apt-get source kcontrol && cd kdebase-3.5.7/kcontrol/componentchooser && ls' and tell me if you see anything for selecting the IM client? | 12:51 |
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| mhb | Riddell: so if you don't mind my english, I'll do them | 12:55 |
| Riddell | mhb: thanks | 12:55 |
| Riddell | that would be wonderful | 12:55 |
| nixternal | Riddell: I will take care of the minutes right now | 12:56 |
| mhb | nixternal: no, I was here first :o) | 12:56 |
| nixternal | oh, are you going to do it? | 12:57 |
| nixternal | oh..I just now noticed that..sorry | 12:57 |
| nixternal | thanks mhb | 12:57 |
| mhb | nixternal: you can do those for the meeting before | 12:57 |
| mhb | :o) | 12:57 |
| nixternal | haha, ya I will do those I guess :) | 12:57 |
| mhb | nixternal: nobody seemed to volunteer then | 12:57 |
| nixternal | mhb: I was voluntold by Hobbsee and forgot about them | 12:58 |
| nixternal | so if I get them done, maybe I can get a cookie :) | 12:58 |
| Riddell | I baked these cookies myself by the way | 01:00 |
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| fdoving | really tasty :) | 01:04 |
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| yuriy | hi, anything interesting happen at the meeting? | 01:06 |
| mhb | is it me or is the logging daemon buggy? | 01:10 |
| mhb | http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ubuntu-meeting-2007-07-31.html | 01:10 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Speaking of clamav backports, Bug 129252 is waiting for attention if you're in the mood (rushing isn't critical if you aren't). | 01:25 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 129252 in feisty-backports "Please backport clamav 0.91.1-1ubuntu2 from Gutsy to Feisty" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129252 | 01:25 |
| mhb | yuriy: not much :o) | 01:45 |
| nixternal | OK, Hobbsee will be happy, I have put up the 2007-07-04 minutes | 01:46 |
| nixternal | back in a bit...dinner time | 01:46 |
| n8k99 | nixternal: sorry i didnt get to hang while in chi-tonw | 01:49 |
| mhb | nixternal: well, you could at least put the decisions there, so they are easy to track :o) | 01:49 |
| ryanakca | Hmmm. Anything to add to the topic while I'm at it? | 02:02 |
| mhb | I find it amusing that few people discovered the preview feature in dolphin :o) | 02:20 |
| ryanakca | preview feature? | 02:20 |
| ryanakca | mhb: like the preview button at the top, in the tool bar? | 02:21 |
| mhb | ryanakca: yeah | 02:21 |
| ryanakca | hehe :) | 02:21 |
| mhb | ryanakca: tonio and jr seemed to be convinced that it doesn't exist at first | 02:22 |
| ryanakca | heehee :) | 02:23 |
| === ryanakca wonders if there's already a dolphin <-> konqueror patch for system settings/kcontrol... and if not, how hard it would be to create one. | ||
| mhb | Riddell: minutes ready, the irc logs are rather long but the logging daemon has some issues so I used my own logs. Also the Meetings page is cleaned up. | 02:32 |
| === ryanakca thinks it would be as easy as copy-pasting the 'Text Editor' or 'Instant Messaging' part in Default Applications (System Settings/KControl) and tweaking... but I can't seem to find the source for that. | ||
| mhb | ryanakca: it'd be cool to have that | 02:33 |
| === ryanakca nods | ||
| ryanakca | it'd be an interesting first-patch for me :) | 02:34 |
| mhb | ryanakca: go for it | 02:36 |
| === ryanakca nods. Umm. one thing, mind helping me find the sources? I see Email, Web browser, and Terminal in kdebase-3.5.7/kcontrol/componentchooser/componentchooser.cpp ... but not the other two | ||
| mhb | okay | 02:37 |
| mhb | grep found something at: | 02:40 |
| mhb | kdelibs/interfaces/texteditor/kcm_texteditor.desktop | 02:41 |
| ryanakca | hmm. kdelibs, never checked it :) | 02:41 |
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| mhb | it's ktexteditor | 02:43 |
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| mhb | ryanakca: is a simple .desktop file like that all it takes for that app? | 02:43 |
| mhb | ryanakca: well, of course, the bad side is someone has to make the apps obey it :o) | 02:44 |
| ryanakca | mhb: it's kdelibs-3.5.7/interfaces/ktexteditor/editorchooser* | 02:45 |
| ryanakca | [.cpp,.h,_ui.ui] | 02:45 |
| ryanakca | methinks this'll be harder than he thought :) | 02:46 |
| mhb | ryanakca: it always is | 02:46 |
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| nixternal | hey, <qlist.h> - wth qt release is that? | 04:11 |
| nixternal | I locate it under the qt4 dir | 04:11 |
| nixternal | but when I run through the configure files, all tests check for qt <4.0 | 04:12 |
| nixternal | this keyboard app is horrible | 04:12 |
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| nixternal | Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6297 <- kvkbd package | 05:39 |
| crimsun | nixternal: the compat-headers package for Qt3 provides it, too. | 05:41 |
| nixternal | does it | 05:41 |
| nixternal | OK, I thought I tried that | 05:41 |
| nixternal | testing it now | 05:43 |
| nixternal | crimsun: thanks for that, it worked...so I guess I didn't try that | 05:46 |
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| crimsun | 9999 dlocate qlist.h | 05:47 |
| crimsun | 10000 apt-cache show libqt3-compat-headers | 05:47 |
| crimsun | :-) | 05:47 |
| nixternal | ya, I used apt-file to search for it, and must have missed that | 05:49 |
| nixternal | Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6298 <- use this one - kvkbd | 05:51 |
| nixternal | Riddell: just emailed the developer of kvkbd, Todor, with the requests listed in the Design section of the spec | 05:56 |
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| nixternal | uh oh | 07:51 |
| nixternal | kwwii: can I make a minor suggestion with the KDM login image? | 07:51 |
| kwwii | sure | 07:51 |
| nixternal | OK, the Kubuntu graphic above the login dialog, look to the right, you can see the translucent edge, as it doesn't blend in with the desktop | 07:52 |
| kwwii | no worries, that will be changed | 07:53 |
| kwwii | just haven't gotten around to it yet | 07:54 |
| nixternal | OK...just checkin'...btw I do like the new wallpaper quite a bit actually | 07:54 |
| kwwii | cool :-) | 07:54 |
| nixternal | how about kmenu colors, you changing them from purple? the highlight colors that is | 07:54 |
| kwwii | yes, that needs to change too | 07:54 |
| kwwii | almost 8am here - /me needs to wake up properly, be back later | 07:56 |
| nixternal | hehe | 07:56 |
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| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: hey :) | 10:32 |
| Hobbsee | hiya | 10:33 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: yo ! | 10:33 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: testing you patch today, if that works, I'll ping someone to commit svn | 10:34 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: sweet.. maybe I should look at that path "Up" thingy as well | 10:34 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: not quite sure where to start though :) | 10:34 |
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| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: would be nice indeed :) | 10:37 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: goody, I'll start right away | 10:38 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: btw, the progress indicators are kinda screwed in kio_obex2, but that the same for both upload/download | 10:38 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: ah ? | 10:38 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: they have been that before I started patched it | 10:39 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: seems like putFile() does not do the same as the old put() from kio_obex | 10:39 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: btw, the patch is not very big for the upload. But the patch doesn't show how much debugging i had to do ;) | 10:40 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: what do you mean by "very big uploads" ? | 10:41 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: indeed, upload locks on 100% very quickly, strange | 10:41 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: i just meant the patch is not very big ;) | 10:41 |
| Tonio_ | but it works..... could be better, but that's acceptable for a first shot :) | 10:41 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: ah oki ;) | 10:41 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: well done, that works :) that's a very good point to make it default on gutsy | 10:42 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I'll look to see if those progress indicators can be fixed. But if you look, you'll see that download has the same problem | 10:42 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: progress bar have to be improved, but that can wait | 10:42 |
| _StefanS_ | ok | 10:42 |
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| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: yep same issue with download | 10:42 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: another option is to use a progress bar that doesn't show the %age | 10:43 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: like ark | 10:43 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: I suspect dbus to miss the progress level, we can patch that easilly I guess | 10:43 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: do you see what ark is using ? | 10:43 |
| Tonio_ | that would be more acceptable than the current one | 10:43 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: the same bar is used by kio-umountwrapper I think | 10:44 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: replacing this should be trivial I guess | 10:44 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: havent checked in depth yet | 10:44 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: but I will look into it | 10:44 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: it is just a progress dialog that goes from left to right and right to left, to tell you you still have to wait | 10:44 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: I can look into this probably, that's easy to do | 10:45 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: better improve the "up" bug I'd suggest :) | 10:45 |
| _StefanS_ | just had to get my free copy of that Qt development book :) | 10:45 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I'll fix that Up thingy. | 10:46 |
| Tonio_ | kool :) | 10:46 |
| _StefanS_ | I'll keep you posted. And lets get that kdesudo thing done also ! | 10:47 |
| _StefanS_ | new fade works, btw. | 10:47 |
| _StefanS_ | finished that like a week ago hehe | 10:48 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: oki should it cause kde apps build problems this time ? | 10:51 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: nope, and btw Hobbsee did not test past the first patch ! | 10:52 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: best would be that no kdelibs patch is required but I suspect that's not possible | 10:52 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: its not possible without the kdelibs patch | 10:52 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: okay | 10:52 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: we'll have to test if some apps ftbfs with the patch, I think amarok is a good test as we know it failed before that | 10:52 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I can test with amarok; do I need pbuilder for that? | 10:53 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: well it requires that you build kdelibs and then put that on a repo your pbuilder will use | 10:54 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: another way to test is to just install patches kdelibs-dev and apt-get builddep amarok, then you can test the compilation locally | 10:55 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: ok I will do that last approach. | 10:55 |
| Tonio_ | oki ;) | 10:55 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I'm always kinda confused as to when pbuilder is required | 10:56 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: actually this seems more like a konqueror bug... | 10:58 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: the Up thing. | 10:58 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: ah ? | 11:02 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: seems to work with others protocols | 11:03 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: well other protocols dont embed mac-addresses i think | 11:03 |
| Tonio_ | true | 11:03 |
| _StefanS_ | it might be a combination of mac and @ | 11:04 |
| _StefanS_ | donno, but i'll see what I can find. I have a feisty with bluetooth to test with | 11:04 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: amarok is building now. | 11:08 |
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| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: oki ;) | 11:13 |
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| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: amarok build without problems ;) | 11:18 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I have tested with krusader as well, and the program in kdebase that caused the problems in the first place. | 11:18 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: oki great then ;) | 11:24 |
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| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: can you please send me the patches for test ? | 12:03 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: do you have kdebluetooth test-packages? | 12:07 |
| fdoving | hi all, by the way :) | 12:07 |
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| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: patches for kdelibs or bluetooth ? | 12:13 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I have sent you both.. | 12:13 |
| _StefanS_ | hi fdoving | 12:13 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: kdelibs patch was sent to you at 2007-07-18 14:01 | 12:16 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: kdebluetooth was yesterday. | 12:16 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: its definitely something with KUrl().. Looking at kdebase now. | 12:23 |
| _StefanS_ | kdelibs | 12:24 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: ho I added that one, but I removed it as it seemed to also create issues | 12:25 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: like what issues? | 12:26 |
| TheInfinity | hmm ... | 12:26 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: and are you sure it was the updated patch you added? | 12:26 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: don't remember what but one of the package didn't build correctly, better ask hobbsee on that point | 12:26 |
| TheInfinity | do you know why upstart mixes mounting in somehow inverse order? | 12:26 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: I'll ahve a look concerning the patch, but I'm pretty sure | 12:26 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: will retest, is the patch for kdesudo ready ? | 12:26 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: well we changed it afterwards hobbsee complained, and she didn't test it after that. | 12:26 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: just take the stuff you have for kdesudo. It almost the same | 12:27 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: ah..... | 12:27 |
| _StefanS_ | :) | 12:27 |
| TheInfinity | because it seems like a bug to me ;) | 12:27 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: yes but it doesn't work for me :) | 12:27 |
| _StefanS_ | TheInfinity: better ask in #ubuntu-devel | 12:27 |
| TheInfinity | okay :) | 12:27 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: oh well, thats right. | 12:27 |
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| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: hmm.. I did simplify the code alot, so maybe it will work for you now. | 12:28 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: that's why I ask for the patch ;) | 12:28 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: ehm well I get it now :) | 12:28 |
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| _StefanS_ | lemme polish it up then. | 12:29 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: hehe | 12:29 |
| _StefanS_ | all this jumping back and forth ;) | 12:29 |
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| fdoving | Tonio_: do you have that kdebluetooth-test-package/source or not? | 12:40 |
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| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: gawd I hate that launchpad thingy... what is needed to checkout kdesudo? | 12:52 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I mean url... I cant figure it out | 12:52 |
| fdoving | _stefans_: have a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-kdesudo/kdesudo/trunk | 12:54 |
| fdoving | you can checkout http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-kdesudo/kdesudo/trunk | 12:54 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: uhm I found it now... I can never seem to make the distinction between https://launchpad.net/kdesudo and https://code.launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-kdesudo | 12:55 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: you can checkout with sftp://bazaar.launchpad | 12:55 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: you have the source package on my repo as you have the binaries | 12:56 |
| fdoving | does bzr+ssh work yet? | 12:56 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: it deos | 12:56 |
| _StefanS_ | does | 12:56 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: think so | 12:56 |
| _StefanS_ | just did it. | 12:56 |
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| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: I have looked at the progress bar thing | 01:04 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: seems simple to change, but too complicated for me :) | 01:04 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: ok, I can probably check it out later then. | 01:10 |
| Tonio_ | oki | 01:10 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: seems like kUrl() strips the 'password' out of urls... : obex2://00:1c:35:4f:0a:45@bluetooth:10/Card memory -> Up clicked -> obex2://00<stripped>@bluetooth:10/ | 01:11 |
| _StefanS_ | alteast it thinks its a password ;) | 01:11 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: 'Card Memory'-dir gets taken off correctly. | 01:12 |
| Tonio_ | weird :/ | 01:14 |
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| fdoving | copying doesn't work for me, with the kdebluetooth at tonios repo. | 01:18 |
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| _StefanS_ | fdoving: I dont think he updated it yet. | 01:26 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: the patch for kdesudo is in your mailbox. | 01:26 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: I can send you the patch if you want to build it yourself | 01:28 |
| fdoving | _StefanS_: that would be nice. :) | 01:28 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: super | 01:28 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: on its way. | 01:28 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: simple ~10 lines stuff. | 01:29 |
| fdoving | _StefanS_: thanks. :) | 01:29 |
| _StefanS_ | np | 01:29 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: yeah it isn't in the repos yet | 01:29 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: I'm just resyncing svn and uploading | 01:29 |
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| mhb | Riddell: a nice announcement on kubuntu.org would be lovely .o) | 01:42 |
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| fdoving | grr..the feisty mailscanner is dying once a week. | 01:44 |
| Riddell | mhb: I'm waiting for more packages to be compiled | 01:44 |
| Riddell | (assuming you're talking about beta) | 01:44 |
| mhb | Riddell: okay | 01:46 |
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| rouzic | Hi all | 02:17 |
| === Hobbsee waves | ||
| rouzic | KDE 4 beta 1 for Kubuntu feisty? | 02:18 |
| Hobbsee | after gutsy, presumably | 02:19 |
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| rouzic | Hobbsee: I refer to that if it is possible to use the beta 1 of kde in feisty | 02:22 |
| Hobbsee | rouzic: i'd assume that Riddell would build it for feisty, after building it for gutsy, and checking that that works. | 02:22 |
| rouzic | Hobbsee: ok, thanks :) | 02:23 |
| fdoving | rouzic: have a look at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php | 02:23 |
| Hobbsee | oh, we've announced it have we? gerat | 02:23 |
| Hobbsee | even better | 02:23 |
| fdoving | Hobbsee: not properly yet, as it's still building. | 02:23 |
| rouzic | Hobbsee: Thanks!!! :D | 02:23 |
| fdoving | but the annoyuncement is there. | 02:24 |
| Riddell | quietly announced, it's not all compiled yet | 02:24 |
| fdoving | not on kubuntu.org frontpage though. | 02:24 |
| Hobbsee | fdoving: ahhh | 02:24 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: and gutsy? | 02:24 |
| Riddell | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4base/3.92.0-0ubuntu1 " Currently building" | 02:24 |
| Hobbsee | just call me lazy. | 02:25 |
| fdoving | nice, i'm subscribed to all mailinglists with the ubuntu.com address still launchpad tries to deliver launchpad-mail to kubuntu-devel with my lnix.net mail, because that's the default in launchpad. | 02:30 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: is there any apps like konversation ready for kde4? | 02:30 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: I dont really know about it :) | 02:30 |
| fdoving | we should probably not subscribe "kubuntu team" to bugs. | 02:30 |
| Hobbsee | fdoving: that has a black hole address | 02:30 |
| Hobbsee | fdoving: iirc | 02:30 |
| Hobbsee | fdoving: i dont know why people do, though | 02:30 |
| Hobbsee | well, assigning, anyway | 02:31 |
| Riddell | kubuntu-team goes to kubuntu-bugs@ list | 02:31 |
| Riddell | that's the whole point of that team now | 02:31 |
| fdoving | Riddell: must be kubuntu beasties then. | 02:31 |
| fdoving | it's https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+bug/127693 | 02:31 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 127693 in dolphin "dolphin konqueror like servicemenu support" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 02:32 |
| fdoving | yep, Kubuntu Beasties does have kubuntu-devel@ as it's e-mail. | 02:33 |
| Hobbsee | fdoving: erk | 02:34 |
| fdoving | that team should probably be removed if it doesn't do anything usefull. | 02:35 |
| fdoving | anyone can subscribe it to bugs, but only a few can unsubscribe. | 02:36 |
| _StefanS_ | x86 build is done for kde4 | 02:36 |
| Hobbsee | woo! | 02:37 |
| Riddell | yay | 02:37 |
| === Hobbsee ponders trying it | ||
| Riddell | it won't appear for another half hour in the archives | 02:38 |
| _StefanS_ | uhm :) | 02:38 |
| Hobbsee | no, but i'd better not download it here anyway :) | 02:39 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: how long do kubuntu cds take to get to au? | 02:39 |
| Riddell | shipit ones? I've no idea | 02:39 |
| Hobbsee | darn. | 02:40 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: i hijacked my computing lecture today, to show off kubuntu :) | 02:40 |
| Riddell | cool! | 02:40 |
| Hobbsee | yeah! :) | 02:40 |
| Hobbsee | so that was fun | 02:42 |
| Riddell | what did you show off? | 02:42 |
| === Hobbsee will have to find a feisty cd, to give to her lecturer, so she can have tried something more than memphis | ||
| Hobbsee | well, she was going to use putty to ssh into a unix machine | 02:42 |
| Hobbsee | but the uni wireless fell over for some reason, in that building | 02:42 |
| Hobbsee | so, she couldnt do the unix demo that she wanted | 02:42 |
| Hobbsee | so she says "sarah, do you have a copy of linux there?" | 02:43 |
| Riddell | and by chance you did? | 02:43 |
| Hobbsee | "oh, sure, here you go" *brings laptop down, creates a spare directory, cds into that, makes terminal big, plugs into the projector stuff, it all just works* | 02:43 |
| Hobbsee | sure - i was using my laptop in the class. writing emails and such :) | 02:44 |
| Hobbsee | got to say a bit about what the laptop was running, what linux is like, etc. | 02:44 |
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| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I will patch kdebluetooth to use the old path naming, seems like [] is missing from the urls | 03:12 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: oki | 03:13 |
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| _StefanS_ | Tonio__: where did you find this package? | 03:33 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio__: maybe there's some commits to kde in parallel to make this work | 03:33 |
| Tonio__ | _StefanS_: which package ? | 03:33 |
| _StefanS_ | kdebluetooth | 03:34 |
| Tonio__ | _StefanS_: wame problem for me and kdesudo.... | 03:34 |
| Tonio__ | _StefanS_: from kde svn | 03:34 |
| _StefanS_ | bah :P | 03:34 |
| Tonio__ | _StefanS_: don't mind nothing done on the obex side for ages, you will not duplicate another ev's work | 03:34 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio__: I dont know how to fix it then. Let drop the fade for kdesudo. | 03:34 |
| Tonio__ | _StefanS_: testing the kdelibs patch compatibility now | 03:34 |
| Tonio__ | so bad since the effect is nice :/ | 03:35 |
| _StefanS_ | yea.. but its a weird macbook problem.. | 03:35 |
| _StefanS_ | :) | 03:35 |
| _StefanS_ | maybe we should get someone more knowing to look at it | 03:36 |
| _StefanS_ | I simply might not be good enough to see whats wrong with it. | 03:36 |
| Tonio__ | maybe yes...... Riddell may be able to help, and I think he has an apple machine | 03:37 |
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| _StefanS_ | Tonio__: this fade thingy is even simpler than the first, so it simply might be something with the layering of the widgets | 03:38 |
| Riddell | not to hand | 03:38 |
| Tonio__ | _StefanS_: possibly yes | 03:39 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio__: means: I think the problem isn't in the fade itself, but maybe initialization of the program | 03:39 |
| mhb | trouble with apple machines? | 03:39 |
| _StefanS_ | mhb: never heard of any trouble with apple machines :P | 03:39 |
| mhb | _StefanS_: I have a macbook | 03:40 |
| mhb | _StefanS_: non-pro | 03:40 |
| Tonio__ | mhb: not sure if especially apple is concerned, but the fade effect fails to work on my macbook pro, causing x to hang | 03:40 |
| Tonio__ | mhb: interesting, would you test for me please ? | 03:40 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio__: do you get any errors in the xorg log? | 03:40 |
| Tonio__ | _StefanS_: lemme check | 03:40 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio__: good idea, get mhb to test also | 03:40 |
| mhb | Tonio__: of course, but it's a non-pro. How can I reproduce it? | 03:41 |
| Tonio__ | mhb: you'll se that's very simple | 03:41 |
| Tonio__ | mhb: have gutsy on that machine ? | 03:42 |
| mhb | Tonio__: yep | 03:43 |
| Tonio__ | mhb: http://ubuntu.tonio.homelinux.org | 03:43 |
| Tonio__ | mhb: use that repo and dist-upgrade | 03:43 |
| Tonio__ | then install kdesudo | 03:43 |
| Tonio__ | restart kde for new kdelibs | 03:43 |
| Tonio__ | and then login and try to launch for example "kdesudo konqueror" | 03:44 |
| Tonio__ | should hang while clicking OK | 03:44 |
| mhb | Tonio__: ah damn, another repository that's 386 only | 03:46 |
| Tonio__ | mhb: nope | 03:47 |
| mhb | Tonio__: http://ubuntu.tonio.homelinux.org/dists/gutsy/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz 404 Not Found | 03:47 |
| Tonio__ | mhb: argh..... I can't compile for amd64 that's the problem | 03:48 |
| === Hobbsee wondesr how the meeting went | ||
| mhb | Hobbsee: read the minutes, silly :o) | 03:48 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: some great guy volunteered to make them | 03:49 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: or just read the entire log | 03:49 |
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| Hobbsee | heh, i vaguely saw that | 03:49 |
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| Tonio__ | _StefanS_: last svn update seems to break the input devices support for kdebluetooth :/ | 03:52 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio__: argh | 03:53 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio__: I just realized that we need to patch kdecore/kurl.cpp anyways... gives me a malformed url now, and kio_obex2 fakes hostname by setting it to "bluetooth", like the servername :) | 03:54 |
| _StefanS_ | so cant remove bluetooth. | 03:55 |
| _StefanS_ | great. | 03:55 |
| _StefanS_ | oh 3.92 is available now | 03:55 |
| fdoving | why do you need to patch kurl.cpp ? | 03:56 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: ^ | 03:56 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: well, here goes... | 03:56 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: old obex used this url form: obex://[00:1c:35:4f:0a:45] :10/Card memory | 03:57 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: now its obex2://[00:1c:35:4f:0a:45] @bluetooth:10/Card memory | 03:58 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: actually without [] | 03:58 |
| fdoving | yep. | 03:58 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: if you click up in konqy you get this url: obex2://00@bluetooth:10/Card memory | 03:58 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: and the stuff dont work. | 03:58 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: I have now added those [] , and now konqy gives me maltformed url ... dialog | 03:59 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: removing the bluetooth from the url doesn't work either, as it can connect. | 03:59 |
| _StefanS_ | can/cant | 03:59 |
| _StefanS_ | but thats what I'm looking into now | 03:59 |
| fdoving | did you figure out what removes some of the address in the first place? | 04:00 |
| _StefanS_ | but dont think kdebluetooth can work without setHost("bluetooth"), and therefore the patch for kurl.cpp to understand the new url should be. | 04:00 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: I did. | 04:00 |
| fdoving | username/pass things? | 04:00 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: yep | 04:00 |
| fdoving | does it use KURL->path() ? | 04:00 |
| _StefanS_ | nope. url. | 04:00 |
| fdoving | can you point me to where this is done in kdebluetooth sources? | 04:01 |
| _StefanS_ | sure | 04:01 |
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| _StefanS_ | fdoving: kdebluetooth-1.0~beta4/kdebluetooth/kioslave/sdp/btsdp.cpp (setHost() bluetooth stuff) | 04:02 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: kdebluetooth-1.0~beta4/kdebluetooth/kioslave/obex/kio_obex/obeximpl.cpp|h for the url stuff | 04:03 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: maybe you can figure it out :) | 04:03 |
| fdoving | obexFtpURL.setUser(mAddress); | 04:03 |
| _StefanS_ | thats the mac-address | 04:04 |
| fdoving | so that's the 00:1c:35:4f:0a:45 in your case. | 04:04 |
| _StefanS_ | yep | 04:04 |
| fdoving | did you change mAddress ? | 04:04 |
| fdoving | to include the [] | 04:04 |
| _StefanS_ | yep | 04:04 |
| _StefanS_ | lemme find the line | 04:04 |
| _StefanS_ | its where it says mAddress = host | 04:05 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: at 110, : mAddress = "[" + host + "] "; | 04:06 |
| fdoving | where do you remove them? | 04:06 |
| fdoving | you probably need to remove them before it's actually used for anything. | 04:07 |
| Riddell | _StefanS_: available in gutsy or feisty? | 04:08 |
| _StefanS_ | gutsy | 04:12 |
| fdoving | _StefanS_: for example in: kioslave/sdp/btsdp.cpp void SdpProtocol::listDir(const KURL &url) | 04:13 |
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| _StefanS_ | fdoving: well I didn't finish, so it might work if they're stripped | 04:14 |
| ryanakca | oooh :) http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0-beta1.php | 04:14 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: I'll try it | 04:15 |
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| rbrunhuber8995 | Riddell : you are the greatest! | 04:16 |
| Riddell | moi? | 04:17 |
| rbrunhuber8995 | Riddell: Si | 04:17 |
| Riddell | better than Bono? | 04:17 |
| rbrunhuber8995 | Riddell : The U2 Bono? | 04:17 |
| Riddell | yes | 04:17 |
| rbrunhuber8995 | Riddell : Yes, because Bono did not package KDE 4 Beta 1 :-) | 04:18 |
| Riddell | :) | 04:18 |
| manchicken | Riddell: Did you package the beta already? | 04:19 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: kio_obex2: kio_obexProtocol::setHost(host=bluetooth, port=10, user=00, pass=1c:35:4f:0a:45) | 04:19 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: hehe the mac is splitted :) | 04:19 |
| fdoving | _StefanS_: nice. so much for using kurl for everything. | 04:19 |
| Riddell | manchicken: naw, I was waiting for bono to do it | 04:20 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: definitely has its bugs ;) | 04:20 |
| manchicken | Riddell: Well, Bono won't even fight against DRM, so I don't hold out much hope. | 04:20 |
| fdoving | _StefanS_: when it's used for things it's not designed to do.. yeah. | 04:20 |
| rbrunhuber8995 | manchicken: At least heise.de found the announcement: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php | 04:20 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: I'm doing a nasty thing here ... QString bhost=user+pass; :) | 04:21 |
| fdoving | _StefanS_: but the 00 remain after an UP. | 04:21 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: yes but password is not disclosed i think | 04:21 |
| fdoving | _StefanS_: didn't understand what you just meant by user+pass, but if we could set the whole mac in the user= field, and drop password.. | 04:22 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: yes, it was sorta the same thing i meant. | 04:22 |
| fdoving | _StefanS_: you can have KURL display the password, it's only hidden when prettyURL is used.. iirc. | 04:22 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: that explains that part atlest. | 04:22 |
| _StefanS_ | atleast | 04:22 |
| fdoving | _StefanS_: http://api.kde.org/3.5-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdecore/html/classKURL.html#9382bc0e035124e884f755cff962530f | 04:23 |
| fdoving | Does not contain the password if the URL has one, use url() if you need to have it in the string. | 04:23 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: problem is that what we get back from kURl is borked | 04:23 |
| fdoving | _StefanS_: when doing what call? | 04:23 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: yep | 04:24 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: I dont split it anywhere.. | 04:24 |
| fdoving | so kurl decides that the first : is a splitter. | 04:25 |
| _StefanS_ | yep. | 04:25 |
| _StefanS_ | user:password@host thingy | 04:25 |
| fdoving | yep. | 04:26 |
| _StefanS_ | so.. | 04:26 |
| _StefanS_ | I kinda puzzled as to what we should do.. 1) patch kdebluetooth to take the "wrong" url and make it right 2) patch kdelibs/kdecore to possibly screw up alot, but make kdebluetooth work. | 04:27 |
| _StefanS_ | I/I'm | 04:27 |
| fdoving | 1) | 04:27 |
| _StefanS_ | yep. | 04:27 |
| _StefanS_ | least probs | 04:27 |
| _StefanS_ | doing that now. | 04:27 |
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| _StefanS_ | fdoving: probably first tonight, but I'll fix it. | 04:28 |
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| _StefanS_ | Tonio__: read ^ | 04:29 |
| fdoving | _StefanS_: is there set a user? | 04:29 |
| fdoving | _StefanS_: because: a password can only appear in a URL string if you also set a user, see setUser(). | 04:29 |
| fdoving | from api.kde.org | 04:29 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: yep .. 00 :) | 04:29 |
| _StefanS_ | no worries on that part | 04:29 |
| fdoving | _StefanS_: is that set in code somwehere, or does kurl do that itself? | 04:29 |
| fdoving | or is user the only thing set in code. | 04:30 |
| fdoving | and kurl makes everything after the first : a pass. | 04:30 |
| fdoving | the latter is correct. | 04:31 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: the code says so ;) | 04:31 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: kurl is just trying to be all smart. | 04:31 |
| fdoving | yep, or kdebluetooth is very dumb. | 04:32 |
| fdoving | using : in usernames. | 04:32 |
| fdoving | because the username isn't a username after all :) | 04:32 |
| _StefanS_ | hehe well .. kio is broken then. | 04:32 |
| _StefanS_ | shouldn't use urls at all. | 04:32 |
| _StefanS_ | sort of a fits all approach. Only it doesn't fit. | 04:33 |
| _StefanS_ | well.. | 04:33 |
| fdoving | would fit if they did it the old-way, | 04:33 |
| fdoving | strip the [] before usage. | 04:33 |
| _StefanS_ | well I just leave out [] entirely as it doesn't matter. : is the problem. | 04:34 |
| fdoving | then replace : with something else, - or something. | 04:34 |
| fdoving | then reverse on usage. | 04:35 |
| _StefanS_ | uhm well good idea | 04:35 |
| _StefanS_ | probably the nicest one. | 04:35 |
| === _StefanS_ go do. | ||
| _StefanS_ | gotta go. be back later | 04:44 |
| fdoving | see you around. | 04:45 |
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| lontra | where is the default colour scheme for kubuntu kept (i.e. what package and where is it physically install to) | 04:49 |
| Hobbsee | kubuntu-default-settings | 04:50 |
| Hobbsee | and use dpkg -L kubuntu-default-settings for the latter answer | 04:50 |
| lontra | Hobbsee: do you know what the file is called? | 04:52 |
| Hobbsee | lontra: not offhand, but it's in artwork/ or a similar directory | 04:52 |
| Riddell | kdeglobals mostly | 04:53 |
| Riddell | it's also /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes/kubuntuColours.kcsrc but that's not actually used unless the user changes colour scheme | 04:54 |
| nixternal | good morning | 05:06 |
| ScottK | Good morning nixternal | 05:07 |
| Hobbsee | erk! | 05:09 |
| === Hobbsee is going to die | ||
| === Hobbsee has to do a speech in 2 weeks. | ||
| ScottK | It only feels that way. | 05:09 |
| ScottK | It'll make you stronger. | 05:09 |
| Hobbsee | it's...like...15 mins long, and i dont know the subject matter, and i havent prepared it at all | 05:10 |
| === Hobbsee has only found out about it's due date, and therefore existance, in a text message just then. | ||
| ScottK | Two weeks is plenty of time to be an expert. | 05:10 |
| ScottK | Sounds thrilling. | 05:10 |
| ScottK | Just the sort of news one wants right before trying to sleep. | 05:11 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, well. | 05:11 |
| Hobbsee | oh well, time for bed. | 05:11 |
| Hobbsee | night all | 05:11 |
| ScottK | Good night Hobbsee | 05:12 |
| fdoving | yay, i made kdebluetooth work with Up. | 05:12 |
| fdoving | Tonio__: ^^ | 05:12 |
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| lontra | Riddell: thanks | 05:19 |
| Tonio__ | fdoving: you rock :) | 05:21 |
| Tonio__ | fdoving: don't forget to email me the patch | 05:21 |
| fdoving | Tonio__: i will, and i'll cc stefans. | 05:21 |
| Tonio__ | fdoving: super | 05:22 |
| Tonio__ | fdoving: beta5 unfortunatelly has a lot of regressions, I'll have to take care of initial upload | 05:22 |
| Tonio__ | fdoving: I'll probably upload tonight | 05:22 |
| ScottK | Tonio__: I'm working on the new klamav upstream. Do you want me to leave you as Maintainer or make you Original-Maintainer? | 05:24 |
| Tonio__ | ScottK: just become maintainer :) | 05:27 |
| ScottK | No thank you. | 05:27 |
| Riddell | Maintainer should be MOTU | 05:27 |
| ScottK | I don't actually use my ubuntu.com address. | 05:27 |
| ScottK | OK. | 05:27 |
| fdoving | Tonio__: mail sent. | 05:28 |
| fdoving | Tonio__: what i did, was to replace : with - in the mac for the bluetooth device. that way KURL doesn't mess things up. | 05:29 |
| Tonio__ | fdoving: grat | 05:31 |
| Tonio__ | great | 05:31 |
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| bobesponja | is there a mirror that already has kde 3.92 package?, I can't seem to find any as announced on http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php | 05:35 |
| nixternal | Riddell: did you get a chance to look at that kvkbd package? | 05:36 |
| Riddell | nixternal: nope, where is it again? | 05:37 |
| fdoving | Tonio__: are you in contact with kdebluetooth upstream? | 05:37 |
| nixternal | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6298 | 05:38 |
| Tonio__ | fdoving: nope but I can | 05:38 |
| fdoving | Tonio__: if you're not, i'll just mail our current patches and ask for comments etc | 05:38 |
| Tonio__ | sure | 05:39 |
| fdoving | sent. | 05:41 |
| ryanakca | Where in k-d-s is the katapult config file? I'm thinking of coloring it blue instead of purple (if nobody minds) | 05:44 |
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| Tonio__ | ryanakca: kde-rc-files/katapultrc | 05:44 |
| nixternal | ryanakca: as long as you use crayola crayons, then go for it :) | 05:44 |
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| nixternal | haha | 05:45 |
| mikkael | i just tried this without success: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php | 05:45 |
| mikkael | neither the full session nor xephyr is working for me :/ | 05:45 |
| nixternal | xephyr has never worked for me..no matter what I tried | 05:46 |
| nixternal | mikkael: are you getting an error when logging in, or does it just kick you back out to the login screen? | 05:46 |
| mikkael | the last | 05:47 |
| nixternal | I have heard a few people saying that... | 05:47 |
| nixternal | I haven't tried the new packages just yet | 05:47 |
| Riddell | nixternal: 1 issue http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6298 | 05:48 |
| Riddell | mikkael: do individual programmes work? | 05:48 |
| mikkael | im not able to start a kde4 session, just followed this steps here http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php | 05:48 |
| mikkael | !paste | 05:49 |
| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 05:49 |
| nixternal | did you export home? | 05:49 |
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| mikkael | did i do right with the startkde script: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32244/ | 05:49 |
| nixternal | Riddell: you forgot to add 'export KDEHOME=~/.kde4' in there | 05:50 |
| Riddell | mikkael: yes | 05:50 |
| Riddell | nixternal: no, it's compiled in to use that now | 05:50 |
| nixternal | oh cool | 05:50 |
| Riddell | mikkael: do individual programmes work? | 05:50 |
| mikkael | Riddell: im on kde3 right now, have not yet logged into kde4 | 05:50 |
| Riddell | mikkael: regardless, try and start them | 05:51 |
| Riddell | with the environment variables set | 05:51 |
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| mikkael | when i choose the kde 4 session at kdm, fill in my login, i get thrown back to login screen | 05:51 |
| Riddell | so you said | 05:51 |
| fdoving | TheFuzzball in #kubuntu experience the same problem. | 05:51 |
| Riddell | try running a kde 4 application from a kde 3 session | 05:51 |
| mikkael | ah for example | 05:52 |
| mikkael | ? | 05:52 |
| Riddell | konsole | 05:52 |
| mikkael | hmm this give me kde 3 | 05:53 |
| Riddell | "with the environment variables set" | 05:53 |
| mikkael | yes, sorry forgot to | 05:53 |
| mikkael | ill try a full session now and report | 05:53 |
| mikkael | brb | 05:53 |
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| Riddell | no | 05:53 |
| Riddell | oh jings | 05:53 |
| ryanakca | hehe | 05:54 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: mind if I 'update' the current yakuake theme to blue? or would that be up to kwwii? | 05:55 |
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| mikkael | up and running! | 06:07 |
| nixternal | Riddell: at the top of copying.lib, should I place something like "this license is for the files located in the admin/ directory"? | 06:07 |
| Riddell | nixternal: no | 06:07 |
| nixternal | roger that, just add COPYING.LIB to the root dir, and create the .orig and that's good? | 06:07 |
| Riddell | mikkael: what did you change? | 06:07 |
| Riddell | nixternal: yep | 06:07 |
| nixternal | well add stuff to debian/ of course | 06:07 |
| mikkael | added the export line of KDEHOME to ths startkde script | 06:07 |
| mikkael | this is missing on the kubuntu announce | 06:07 |
| Riddell | mikkael: what did you set KDEHOME to? | 06:07 |
| mikkael | what you did write earlier | 06:07 |
| fdoving | Riddell: 18:01 < TheFuzzball> right, When I run startkde in a terminal I get this error ".: 85; Can't open /home/.kde4/shar/config/startupconfig" does anyone else have this problem? | 06:07 |
| kwwii | ryanakca: if the blue fits well with the new bg it would be fine by me | 06:07 |
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| kwwii | if you wouldn't mind, make a screenshot | 06:07 |
| === ryanakca nods | ||
| kwwii | time for YaM | 06:07 |
| ryanakca | methinks it'll need a patch to katapult sources, unless there's a way to create a theme and put it in k-d-s | 06:07 |
| Riddell | katapult? for yakake? | 06:07 |
| nixternal | test building kvkbd now and will reupload it here in a minute | 06:07 |
| nixternal | Riddell: also, I contacted the developer with the requests that were listed in the spec...Resizable window will be worked on, as for the macros and one button key selection, him and I both don't fully understand | 06:08 |
| nixternal | also, he seems a little busy with personal life right now, but will be getting back to its development | 06:09 |
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| nixternal | I will also need some guidance on adding the info into k-d-s, unless someone wants to whip whatever is needed up quickly | 06:10 |
| mikkael | Riddell: here on the announcement: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php is this export line missing: export KDEHOME=~/.kde4 | 06:12 |
| Riddell | mikkael: I've added it now, but I'm still puzzled as to why that could make a difference | 06:13 |
| mikkael | well thanks for helping me to get this started..just wanted to have a look and play around a bit. it seems all evolving great.. | 06:14 |
| Riddell | thanks for testing | 06:14 |
| ScottK | nixternal: I'm looking at kvkbd now. | 06:15 |
| Riddell | mikkael: are you on gutsy or feisty? | 06:15 |
| mikkael | gutsy | 06:15 |
| nixternal | Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6305 | 06:15 |
| Riddell | "That's all there is to it!" huh? | 06:16 |
| ScottK | nixternal: I'm looking at it now (unless you'd rather do it, Riddell)? | 06:16 |
| Riddell | wow, that really is at the end of the LGPL | 06:17 |
| Tonio__ | fdoving: does a kcmshell kcm_btpaired crash for you ? | 06:17 |
| Tonio__ | fdoving: segfaults here | 06:17 |
| Riddell | ScottK: needs me and someone else | 06:17 |
| nixternal | ScottK: fyi - that is going into main, tis why I bugged mr. JR :0 | 06:17 |
| nixternal | hahahahahaha Riddell...I seen that when I copied and pasted it into the copying file | 06:17 |
| nixternal | that was the first time I ever seen that | 06:17 |
| fdoving | Tonio__: yep, confirmed. | 06:17 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Except nixternal is MOTU, so he counts as one of the two now. | 06:17 |
| nixternal | not for Main, I don't count yet :) | 06:18 |
| Tonio__ | fdoving: oki I'm trying to fix this one | 06:18 |
| ScottK | Then I don't either. | 06:18 |
| nixternal | lol | 06:18 |
| fdoving | Tonio__: great :) | 06:18 |
| nixternal | ScottK: you can still have a cookie though | 06:18 |
| Tonio__ | fdoving: there is also a big regression on the input wizzard, but that's due to today's commit svn | 06:18 |
| ScottK | Great. It's lunch time here. | 06:18 |
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| Tonio__ | fdoving: no doubt it'"ll be fixed soon | 06:18 |
| ScottK | If Riddell is reviewing, I'm either unneccessary or don't count, so I'll go do something else... | 06:19 |
| fdoving | Tonio__: good. bbl, kid needs food. | 06:20 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I've already advocated :) | 06:20 |
| Riddell | nixternal: go ahead and upload then | 06:20 |
| ScottK | Cool. nixternal, why don't you upload it then. | 06:20 |
| Riddell | next would be a main inclusion report | 06:20 |
| Tonio__ | fdoving: hehe | 06:20 |
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| nixternal | Riddell: upload it to universe I take it? | 06:21 |
| nixternal | and then from there we do the MIR and it gets moved | 06:21 |
| nixternal | gotcha | 06:21 |
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| nixternal | uploaded! | 06:21 |
| ScottK | Yeah. | 06:22 |
| nixternal | hehe, groovy | 06:22 |
| nixternal | OK, need to go take my philosophy final...see ya in a bit | 06:23 |
| Riddell | just go all RMS on them | 06:23 |
| Riddell | good luck | 06:23 |
| ScottK | Just answer "Orbital laser death rays" to everything and then complain they don't understand. | 06:23 |
| ScottK | Good luck. | 06:23 |
| nixternal | haha, thanks | 06:25 |
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| fdoving | is anyone investigating the nspluginview-100-cpu issue? | 07:06 |
| fdoving | s/100/100%/ | 07:06 |
| Riddell | not that I know of | 07:08 |
| fdoving | it's very annoying. | 07:09 |
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| DaSkreech | kwwii: I volunteer to review any of the pizzas that come in | 07:31 |
| kwwii | DaSkreech: funny enough my wife is making a pizza at this moment | 07:31 |
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| kwwii | ;-) | 07:31 |
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| DaSkreech | kk | 07:32 |
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| ScottK | I'm working on updating Klamav based on the meeting discussion yesterday. | 08:05 |
| ScottK | I'd appreciate comments on the modified Clamav upgrade notification I'm going to use. | 08:05 |
| ScottK | Please see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32261 and let me know what you think. | 08:06 |
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| lontra | will klamav be default in gutsy? | 08:16 |
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| ScottK | Not sure what you mean? | 08:17 |
| ScottK | It will not be installed by default. | 08:17 |
| lontra | ScottK: like will it be part of the kubuntu-desktop meta package | 08:17 |
| lontra | ScottK: ok | 08:17 |
| ScottK | No. | 08:17 |
| ScottK | It's in Universe, not in Main, so it's not eligible. | 08:17 |
| lontra | btw ... will network-manager-kde be replacing knetworkmanager in gutsy? i noticed that upgrading to gutsy removes knetworkmanager but doesn't install network-manager-kde ... which is strange to me since it's the same program | 08:18 |
| ScottK | But you will be able to install it through Adept or Apt. | 08:18 |
| ScottK | IIRC, yes, but I'm not the best person to ask. | 08:18 |
| lontra | gutsy is looking to be the best kubuntu release yet ... imo | 08:19 |
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| nfoonf | hi | 09:45 |
| nfoonf | Folks, does anyone of you know, whats up with kde 4 beta 1 Packages in Feisty Backports? | 09:45 |
| fdoving | are there problems? | 09:45 |
| nfoonf | seems they're not available... | 09:46 |
| apachelogger | nfoonf: because they aren't uploaded yet I guess ;-) | 09:46 |
| apachelogger | or maybe they are but not yet built | 09:46 |
| nfoonf | hmmm... | 09:46 |
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| nfoonf | okay.. seems some1 has opened a wikipage already... | 09:47 |
| nfoonf | kde.org is also talking about ready kubuntu packages in the beta 1 release announcement | 09:48 |
| nfoonf | okay.. thanx for the Infos.. keep up the good work... | 09:49 |
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| fdoving | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4base/3.92.0-0ubuntu1~feisty1 | 09:50 |
| fdoving | Riddell: dependency-wait on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4base/3.92.0-0ubuntu1~feisty1 | 09:50 |
| fdoving | what does that mean? | 09:50 |
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| fdoving | libcaptury-dev isn't available on feisty. | 09:54 |
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| stdin | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libcaptury/0.3.0+svn20070725-0ubuntu1~feisty1 < building now | 09:56 |
| Riddell | yep, it's in accepted | 09:57 |
| Riddell | publisher will run in 10 minutes and put it into the archive in about 40 minutes time | 09:57 |
| Riddell | dunno how long it'll take for kde4base to decide to compile after that | 09:57 |
| fdoving | how hardcore are the buildservers? quadcore with 8G+ ram and super-fast disks? | 09:59 |
| fdoving | kdebase is rather big. | 10:00 |
| stdin | I know one of canoniclas LTSP servers is a quad 2.66 with 16GB ram | 10:01 |
| Riddell | they all looked much the same when I saw round the data centre :) | 10:05 |
| fdoving | probably slightly faster than my laptop then :) | 10:10 |
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| DaSkreech | Riddell: Have you heard any Ubuntu overtures about Smolt? | 10:16 |
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| Riddell | DaSkreech: never heard of it | 10:17 |
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| DaSkreech | Fedora's New project of an opt-in hardware database | 10:18 |
| DaSkreech | They are asking other Distros to jump in and participate make use of it so it becomes a Linux community effort ratehr than a Fedora | 10:18 |
| DaSkreech | I would assume that Ubuntu was one of the lucky invitees | 10:19 |
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| Riddell | not cross my inbox at least | 10:21 |
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| DaSkreech | Ok I'll go bug #ubuntu-devel | 10:33 |
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| DaSkreech | Riddell: Looks like we are interested in smolt | 10:46 |
| DaSkreech | Lets see if they have a QT front end :) | 10:47 |
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| DaSkreech | What's the package that gives the new fancy mange repos on Adept? | 10:55 |
| DaSkreech | Manage | 10:56 |
| fdoving | software-properties-kde | 10:56 |
| DaSkreech | Thanks | 10:56 |
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| DaSkreech | Riddell: Course you know that this was in KDE repos already :( | 11:18 |
| Riddell | what was? | 11:19 |
| fdoving | where is that app? | 11:20 |
| fdoving | DaSkreech: where is that app? | 11:23 |
| DaSkreech | Knoware | 11:23 |
| DaSkreech | in KDE svn | 11:23 |
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| sahin_h | Riddell: Thanks for the Gusty KDE4 packages! It's better to play with KDE4 on Gutsy than KDE4 Live CD. | 11:26 |
| DaSkreech | fdoving: http://developer.kde.org/summerofcode/knoware.html | 11:29 |
| fdoving | DaSkreech: it's compiling. :) | 11:29 |
| DaSkreech | ha ha :) | 11:30 |
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| fdoving | DaSkreech: did you read anywhere that it supports smolt in any way? | 11:32 |
| DaSkreech | fdoving: I've e-mailed him a few times but he seems a hard core Python guy now | 11:32 |
| DaSkreech | fdoving: This is years before smolt :) | 11:32 |
| fdoving | right.. 2005. | 11:32 |
| fdoving | the smoltgui is dead simple. | 11:33 |
| fdoving | .py of course. | 11:33 |
| DaSkreech | :-) | 11:40 |
| DaSkreech | If it has layers tehn Knoware could leverage it | 11:40 |
| DaSkreech | fdoving: I may be too rosy eyed about smolt but it looks to be multi layered | 11:45 |
| DaSkreech | There can be a Knoware layer then that could use Knoware as the front end and leverage a separate backend for analysis | 11:46 |
| fdoving | maybe, i have no clue how it works. | 11:56 |
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