=== TheInfinity_ [n=TheInfin@pD950F902.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:22] elcuco: kubuntu.org doesn't use drupal [12:23] elcuco: details on how to upload to revu are at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MOTU/Packages/REVU [12:23] let us know if you get stuck [12:24] Riddell: i should ask at #ubuntu-devel, since i want the brown theme for drupal :) [12:24] elcuco: newz2000 is the guy to ask [12:25] thanks (he is offline atm) [12:25] ryanakca: I actually look forward to the day someone gets epiphany and finally creates a simple browser for KDE [12:26] konqueror is simple enough :) [12:26] elcuco: it is quite simple, but I'd love a faster one, that does browsing well and that's all. === erenko is now known as erenko1 === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-184.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:51] Umm. can someone 'apt-get source kcontrol && cd kdebase-3.5.7/kcontrol/componentchooser && ls' and tell me if you see anything for selecting the IM client? === ryanakca --> food === nicolai_ [n=nicolai@port138.ds1-naer.adsl.cybercity.dk] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [12:55] Riddell: so if you don't mind my english, I'll do them [12:55] mhb: thanks [12:55] that would be wonderful [12:56] Riddell: I will take care of the minutes right now [12:56] nixternal: no, I was here first :o) [12:57] oh, are you going to do it? [12:57] oh..I just now noticed that..sorry [12:57] thanks mhb [12:57] nixternal: you can do those for the meeting before [12:57] :o) [12:57] haha, ya I will do those I guess :) [12:57] nixternal: nobody seemed to volunteer then [12:58] mhb: I was voluntold by Hobbsee and forgot about them [12:58] so if I get them done, maybe I can get a cookie :) [01:00] I baked these cookies myself by the way === erenko1 is now known as erenko [01:04] really tasty :) === erenko is now known as erenko1 [01:06] hi, anything interesting happen at the meeting? [01:10] is it me or is the logging daemon buggy? [01:10] http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ubuntu-meeting-2007-07-31.html [01:25] Riddell: Speaking of clamav backports, Bug 129252 is waiting for attention if you're in the mood (rushing isn't critical if you aren't). [01:25] Launchpad bug 129252 in feisty-backports "Please backport clamav 0.91.1-1ubuntu2 from Gutsy to Feisty" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129252 [01:45] yuriy: not much :o) [01:46] OK, Hobbsee will be happy, I have put up the 2007-07-04 minutes [01:46] back in a bit...dinner time [01:49] nixternal: sorry i didnt get to hang while in chi-tonw [01:49] nixternal: well, you could at least put the decisions there, so they are easy to track :o) [02:02] Hmmm. Anything to add to the topic while I'm at it? [02:20] I find it amusing that few people discovered the preview feature in dolphin :o) [02:20] preview feature? [02:21] mhb: like the preview button at the top, in the tool bar? [02:21] ryanakca: yeah [02:21] hehe :) [02:22] ryanakca: tonio and jr seemed to be convinced that it doesn't exist at first [02:23] heehee :) === ryanakca wonders if there's already a dolphin <-> konqueror patch for system settings/kcontrol... and if not, how hard it would be to create one. [02:32] Riddell: minutes ready, the irc logs are rather long but the logging daemon has some issues so I used my own logs. Also the Meetings page is cleaned up. === ryanakca thinks it would be as easy as copy-pasting the 'Text Editor' or 'Instant Messaging' part in Default Applications (System Settings/KControl) and tweaking... but I can't seem to find the source for that. [02:33] ryanakca: it'd be cool to have that === ryanakca nods [02:34] it'd be an interesting first-patch for me :) [02:36] ryanakca: go for it === ryanakca nods. Umm. one thing, mind helping me find the sources? I see Email, Web browser, and Terminal in kdebase-3.5.7/kcontrol/componentchooser/componentchooser.cpp ... but not the other two [02:37] okay [02:40] grep found something at: [02:41] kdelibs/interfaces/texteditor/kcm_texteditor.desktop [02:41] hmm. kdelibs, never checked it :) === ryanakca checks [02:43] it's ktexteditor === maniacmusician_ [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:43] ryanakca: is a simple .desktop file like that all it takes for that app? [02:44] ryanakca: well, of course, the bad side is someone has to make the apps obey it :o) [02:45] mhb: it's kdelibs-3.5.7/interfaces/ktexteditor/editorchooser* [02:45] [.cpp,.h,_ui.ui] [02:46] methinks this'll be harder than he thought :) [02:46] ryanakca: it always is === jjesse [n=jjesse@adsl-76-212-56-86.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:11] hey, - wth qt release is that? [04:11] I locate it under the qt4 dir [04:12] but when I run through the configure files, all tests check for qt <4.0 [04:12] this keyboard app is horrible === stdin [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t [n=tobias@p54A722C5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:39] Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6297 <- kvkbd package [05:41] nixternal: the compat-headers package for Qt3 provides it, too. [05:41] does it [05:41] OK, I thought I tried that [05:43] testing it now [05:46] crimsun: thanks for that, it worked...so I guess I didn't try that === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:47] 9999 dlocate qlist.h [05:47] 10000 apt-cache show libqt3-compat-headers [05:47] :-) [05:49] ya, I used apt-file to search for it, and must have missed that [05:51] Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6298 <- use this one - kvkbd [05:56] Riddell: just emailed the developer of kvkbd, Todor, with the requests listed in the Design section of the spec === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger_ [n=me@N879P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-184.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === renate [n=renate@p57AEFC35.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@p54957325.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:51] uh oh [07:51] kwwii: can I make a minor suggestion with the KDM login image? [07:51] sure [07:52] OK, the Kubuntu graphic above the login dialog, look to the right, you can see the translucent edge, as it doesn't blend in with the desktop [07:53] no worries, that will be changed [07:54] just haven't gotten around to it yet [07:54] OK...just checkin'...btw I do like the new wallpaper quite a bit actually [07:54] cool :-) [07:54] how about kmenu colors, you changing them from purple? the highlight colors that is [07:54] yes, that needs to change too [07:56] almost 8am here - /me needs to wake up properly, be back later [07:56] hehe === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xerosis [n=kieran@87-194-247-206.bethere.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xerosis_ [n=kieran@87-194-247-206.bethere.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=me@N755P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t is now known as hunger === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-90156.0x5734b54a.naenxx14.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-90156.0x5734b54a.naenxx14.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:32] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: hey :) [10:33] hiya [10:33] _StefanS_: yo ! [10:34] _StefanS_: testing you patch today, if that works, I'll ping someone to commit svn [10:34] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: sweet.. maybe I should look at that path "Up" thingy as well [10:34] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: not quite sure where to start though :) === renate is now known as glatzor === maini10 [n=maini10@host41-61-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:37] _StefanS_: would be nice indeed :) [10:38] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: goody, I'll start right away [10:38] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: btw, the progress indicators are kinda screwed in kio_obex2, but that the same for both upload/download [10:38] _StefanS_: ah ? [10:39] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: they have been that before I started patched it [10:39] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: seems like putFile() does not do the same as the old put() from kio_obex [10:40] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: btw, the patch is not very big for the upload. But the patch doesn't show how much debugging i had to do ;) [10:41] _StefanS_: what do you mean by "very big uploads" ? [10:41] _StefanS_: indeed, upload locks on 100% very quickly, strange [10:41] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: i just meant the patch is not very big ;) [10:41] but it works..... could be better, but that's acceptable for a first shot :) [10:41] _StefanS_: ah oki ;) [10:42] _StefanS_: well done, that works :) that's a very good point to make it default on gutsy [10:42] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I'll look to see if those progress indicators can be fixed. But if you look, you'll see that download has the same problem [10:42] _StefanS_: progress bar have to be improved, but that can wait [10:42] <_StefanS_> ok === marseillai [n=mars@ubuntu/member/marseillai] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:42] _StefanS_: yep same issue with download [10:43] _StefanS_: another option is to use a progress bar that doesn't show the %age [10:43] _StefanS_: like ark [10:43] _StefanS_: I suspect dbus to miss the progress level, we can patch that easilly I guess [10:43] _StefanS_: do you see what ark is using ? [10:43] that would be more acceptable than the current one [10:44] _StefanS_: the same bar is used by kio-umountwrapper I think [10:44] _StefanS_: replacing this should be trivial I guess [10:44] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: havent checked in depth yet [10:44] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: but I will look into it [10:44] _StefanS_: it is just a progress dialog that goes from left to right and right to left, to tell you you still have to wait [10:45] _StefanS_: I can look into this probably, that's easy to do [10:45] _StefanS_: better improve the "up" bug I'd suggest :) [10:45] <_StefanS_> just had to get my free copy of that Qt development book :) [10:46] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I'll fix that Up thingy. [10:46] kool :) [10:47] <_StefanS_> I'll keep you posted. And lets get that kdesudo thing done also ! [10:47] <_StefanS_> new fade works, btw. [10:48] <_StefanS_> finished that like a week ago hehe [10:51] _StefanS_: oki should it cause kde apps build problems this time ? [10:52] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: nope, and btw Hobbsee did not test past the first patch ! [10:52] _StefanS_: best would be that no kdelibs patch is required but I suspect that's not possible [10:52] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: its not possible without the kdelibs patch [10:52] _StefanS_: okay [10:52] _StefanS_: we'll have to test if some apps ftbfs with the patch, I think amarok is a good test as we know it failed before that [10:53] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I can test with amarok; do I need pbuilder for that? [10:54] _StefanS_: well it requires that you build kdelibs and then put that on a repo your pbuilder will use [10:55] _StefanS_: another way to test is to just install patches kdelibs-dev and apt-get builddep amarok, then you can test the compilation locally [10:55] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: ok I will do that last approach. [10:55] oki ;) [10:56] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I'm always kinda confused as to when pbuilder is required [10:58] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: actually this seems more like a konqueror bug... [10:58] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: the Up thing. [11:02] _StefanS_: ah ? [11:03] _StefanS_: seems to work with others protocols [11:03] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: well other protocols dont embed mac-addresses i think [11:03] true [11:04] <_StefanS_> it might be a combination of mac and @ [11:04] <_StefanS_> donno, but i'll see what I can find. I have a feisty with bluetooth to test with [11:08] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: amarok is building now. === elcuco [n=elcuco@bzq-88-154-38-113.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === robotgeek [n=robotgee@c-68-62-216-83.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:13] _StefanS_: oki ;) === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.1] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:18] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: amarok build without problems ;) [11:18] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I have tested with krusader as well, and the program in kdebase that caused the problems in the first place. [11:24] _StefanS_: oki great then ;) === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@pD950E660.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@pnsgw1-client225.demo.tuwien.ac.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:03] _StefanS_: can you please send me the patches for test ? [12:07] Tonio_: do you have kdebluetooth test-packages? [12:07] hi all, by the way :) === never|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.1] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:13] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: patches for kdelibs or bluetooth ? [12:13] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I have sent you both.. [12:13] <_StefanS_> hi fdoving [12:16] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: kdelibs patch was sent to you at 2007-07-18 14:01 [12:16] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: kdebluetooth was yesterday. [12:23] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: its definitely something with KUrl().. Looking at kdebase now. [12:24] <_StefanS_> kdelibs [12:25] _StefanS_: ho I added that one, but I removed it as it seemed to also create issues [12:26] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: like what issues? [12:26] hmm ... [12:26] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: and are you sure it was the updated patch you added? [12:26] _StefanS_: don't remember what but one of the package didn't build correctly, better ask hobbsee on that point [12:26] do you know why upstart mixes mounting in somehow inverse order? [12:26] _StefanS_: I'll ahve a look concerning the patch, but I'm pretty sure [12:26] _StefanS_: will retest, is the patch for kdesudo ready ? [12:26] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: well we changed it afterwards hobbsee complained, and she didn't test it after that. [12:27] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: just take the stuff you have for kdesudo. It almost the same [12:27] _StefanS_: ah..... [12:27] <_StefanS_> :) [12:27] because it seems like a bug to me ;) [12:27] _StefanS_: yes but it doesn't work for me :) [12:27] <_StefanS_> TheInfinity: better ask in #ubuntu-devel [12:27] okay :) [12:27] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: oh well, thats right. === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:28] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: hmm.. I did simplify the code alot, so maybe it will work for you now. [12:28] _StefanS_: that's why I ask for the patch ;) [12:28] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: ehm well I get it now :) === _StefanS_ pours some rather strong coffee [12:29] <_StefanS_> lemme polish it up then. [12:29] _StefanS_: hehe [12:29] <_StefanS_> all this jumping back and forth ;) === elcuco_ [n=elcuco@bzq-88-153-209-53.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xRaich[o] 2x [n=raichoo@WL-POOL00-16.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:40] Tonio_: do you have that kdebluetooth-test-package/source or not? === sahin_w [n=KT@210.216.53.194] has joined #kubuntu-devel === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:52] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: gawd I hate that launchpad thingy... what is needed to checkout kdesudo? [12:52] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I mean url... I cant figure it out [12:54] _stefans_: have a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-kdesudo/kdesudo/trunk [12:54] you can checkout http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-kdesudo/kdesudo/trunk [12:55] <_StefanS_> fdoving: uhm I found it now... I can never seem to make the distinction between https://launchpad.net/kdesudo and https://code.launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-kdesudo [12:55] _StefanS_: you can checkout with sftp://bazaar.launchpad [12:56] fdoving: you have the source package on my repo as you have the binaries [12:56] does bzr+ssh work yet? [12:56] <_StefanS_> fdoving: it deos [12:56] <_StefanS_> does [12:56] fdoving: think so [12:56] <_StefanS_> just did it. === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:04] _StefanS_: I have looked at the progress bar thing [01:04] _StefanS_: seems simple to change, but too complicated for me :) [01:10] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: ok, I can probably check it out later then. [01:10] oki [01:11] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: seems like kUrl() strips the 'password' out of urls... : obex2://00:1c:35:4f:0a:45@bluetooth:10/Card memory -> Up clicked -> obex2://00@bluetooth:10/ [01:11] <_StefanS_> alteast it thinks its a password ;) [01:12] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: 'Card Memory'-dir gets taken off correctly. [01:14] weird :/ === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:18] copying doesn't work for me, with the kdebluetooth at tonios repo. === raichoo [n=raichoo@WL-POOL00-16.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #kubuntu-devel === stdin [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel === elcuco__ [n=elcuco@bzq-88-153-209-53.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:26] <_StefanS_> fdoving: I dont think he updated it yet. [01:26] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: the patch for kdesudo is in your mailbox. [01:28] <_StefanS_> fdoving: I can send you the patch if you want to build it yourself [01:28] _StefanS_: that would be nice. :) [01:28] _StefanS_: super [01:28] <_StefanS_> fdoving: on its way. [01:29] <_StefanS_> fdoving: simple ~10 lines stuff. [01:29] _StefanS_: thanks. :) [01:29] <_StefanS_> np [01:29] fdoving: yeah it isn't in the repos yet [01:29] fdoving: I'm just resyncing svn and uploading === _StefanS_ should really do some paid work, but this is more fun :D === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.1] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:42] Riddell: a nice announcement on kubuntu.org would be lovely .o) === jjesse [n=jjesse@adsl-76-212-56-86.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:44] grr..the feisty mailscanner is dying once a week. [01:44] mhb: I'm waiting for more packages to be compiled [01:44] (assuming you're talking about beta) [01:46] Riddell: okay === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === TheInfinity_ [n=TheInfin@pD950C868.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === TheInfinity_ is now known as TheInfinity === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === TheInfinity_ [n=TheInfin@pD950DD15.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p549549D0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === elcuco_ [n=elcuco@bzq-88-153-209-53.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rouzic [n=rouzic@212.145.63.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:17] Hi all === Hobbsee waves [02:18] KDE 4 beta 1 for Kubuntu feisty? [02:19] after gutsy, presumably === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@pD950C5B8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:22] Hobbsee: I refer to that if it is possible to use the beta 1 of kde in feisty [02:22] rouzic: i'd assume that Riddell would build it for feisty, after building it for gutsy, and checking that that works. [02:23] Hobbsee: ok, thanks :) [02:23] rouzic: have a look at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php [02:23] oh, we've announced it have we? gerat [02:23] even better [02:23] Hobbsee: not properly yet, as it's still building. [02:23] Hobbsee: Thanks!!! :D [02:24] but the annoyuncement is there. [02:24] quietly announced, it's not all compiled yet [02:24] not on kubuntu.org frontpage though. [02:24] fdoving: ahhh [02:24] Riddell: and gutsy? [02:24] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4base/3.92.0-0ubuntu1 " Currently building" [02:25] just call me lazy. [02:30] nice, i'm subscribed to all mailinglists with the ubuntu.com address still launchpad tries to deliver launchpad-mail to kubuntu-devel with my lnix.net mail, because that's the default in launchpad. [02:30] <_StefanS_> Riddell: is there any apps like konversation ready for kde4? [02:30] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I dont really know about it :) [02:30] we should probably not subscribe "kubuntu team" to bugs. [02:30] fdoving: that has a black hole address [02:30] fdoving: iirc [02:30] fdoving: i dont know why people do, though [02:31] well, assigning, anyway [02:31] kubuntu-team goes to kubuntu-bugs@ list [02:31] that's the whole point of that team now [02:31] Riddell: must be kubuntu beasties then. [02:31] it's https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+bug/127693 [02:32] Launchpad bug 127693 in dolphin "dolphin konqueror like servicemenu support" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [02:33] yep, Kubuntu Beasties does have kubuntu-devel@ as it's e-mail. [02:34] fdoving: erk [02:35] that team should probably be removed if it doesn't do anything usefull. [02:36] anyone can subscribe it to bugs, but only a few can unsubscribe. [02:36] <_StefanS_> x86 build is done for kde4 [02:37] woo! [02:37] yay === Hobbsee ponders trying it [02:38] it won't appear for another half hour in the archives [02:38] <_StefanS_> uhm :) [02:39] no, but i'd better not download it here anyway :) [02:39] Riddell: how long do kubuntu cds take to get to au? [02:39] shipit ones? I've no idea [02:40] darn. [02:40] Riddell: i hijacked my computing lecture today, to show off kubuntu :) [02:40] cool! [02:40] yeah! :) [02:42] so that was fun [02:42] what did you show off? === Hobbsee will have to find a feisty cd, to give to her lecturer, so she can have tried something more than memphis [02:42] well, she was going to use putty to ssh into a unix machine [02:42] but the uni wireless fell over for some reason, in that building [02:42] so, she couldnt do the unix demo that she wanted [02:43] so she says "sarah, do you have a copy of linux there?" [02:43] and by chance you did? [02:43] "oh, sure, here you go" *brings laptop down, creates a spare directory, cds into that, makes terminal big, plugs into the projector stuff, it all just works* [02:44] sure - i was using my laptop in the class. writing emails and such :) [02:44] got to say a bit about what the laptop was running, what linux is like, etc. === mikkael [n=michael@p54B0AC3A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === TheInfinity_ [n=TheInfin@pD950C1CD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mikkael [n=michael@p54B0AC3A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] [03:12] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I will patch kdebluetooth to use the old path naming, seems like [] is missing from the urls [03:13] _StefanS_: oki === Tonio__ [n=tonio@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:33] <_StefanS_> Tonio__: where did you find this package? [03:33] <_StefanS_> Tonio__: maybe there's some commits to kde in parallel to make this work [03:33] _StefanS_: which package ? [03:34] <_StefanS_> kdebluetooth [03:34] _StefanS_: wame problem for me and kdesudo.... [03:34] _StefanS_: from kde svn [03:34] <_StefanS_> bah :P [03:34] _StefanS_: don't mind nothing done on the obex side for ages, you will not duplicate another ev's work [03:34] <_StefanS_> Tonio__: I dont know how to fix it then. Let drop the fade for kdesudo. [03:34] _StefanS_: testing the kdelibs patch compatibility now [03:35] so bad since the effect is nice :/ [03:35] <_StefanS_> yea.. but its a weird macbook problem.. [03:35] <_StefanS_> :) [03:36] <_StefanS_> maybe we should get someone more knowing to look at it [03:36] <_StefanS_> I simply might not be good enough to see whats wrong with it. [03:37] maybe yes...... Riddell may be able to help, and I think he has an apple machine === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:38] <_StefanS_> Tonio__: this fade thingy is even simpler than the first, so it simply might be something with the layering of the widgets [03:38] not to hand [03:39] _StefanS_: possibly yes [03:39] <_StefanS_> Tonio__: means: I think the problem isn't in the fade itself, but maybe initialization of the program [03:39] trouble with apple machines? [03:39] <_StefanS_> mhb: never heard of any trouble with apple machines :P [03:40] _StefanS_: I have a macbook [03:40] _StefanS_: non-pro [03:40] mhb: not sure if especially apple is concerned, but the fade effect fails to work on my macbook pro, causing x to hang [03:40] mhb: interesting, would you test for me please ? [03:40] <_StefanS_> Tonio__: do you get any errors in the xorg log? [03:40] _StefanS_: lemme check [03:40] <_StefanS_> Tonio__: good idea, get mhb to test also [03:41] Tonio__: of course, but it's a non-pro. How can I reproduce it? [03:41] mhb: you'll se that's very simple [03:42] mhb: have gutsy on that machine ? [03:43] Tonio__: yep [03:43] mhb: http://ubuntu.tonio.homelinux.org [03:43] mhb: use that repo and dist-upgrade [03:43] then install kdesudo [03:43] restart kde for new kdelibs [03:44] and then login and try to launch for example "kdesudo konqueror" [03:44] should hang while clicking OK [03:46] Tonio__: ah damn, another repository that's 386 only [03:47] mhb: nope [03:47] Tonio__: http://ubuntu.tonio.homelinux.org/dists/gutsy/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [03:48] mhb: argh..... I can't compile for amd64 that's the problem === Hobbsee wondesr how the meeting went [03:48] Hobbsee: read the minutes, silly :o) [03:49] Hobbsee: some great guy volunteered to make them [03:49] mhb: or just read the entire log === apachelogger_ [n=me@N825P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:49] heh, i vaguely saw that === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:52] _StefanS_: last svn update seems to break the input devices support for kdebluetooth :/ [03:53] <_StefanS_> Tonio__: argh [03:54] <_StefanS_> Tonio__: I just realized that we need to patch kdecore/kurl.cpp anyways... gives me a malformed url now, and kio_obex2 fakes hostname by setting it to "bluetooth", like the servername :) [03:55] <_StefanS_> so cant remove bluetooth. [03:55] <_StefanS_> great. [03:55] <_StefanS_> oh 3.92 is available now [03:56] why do you need to patch kurl.cpp ? [03:56] <_StefanS_> Riddell: ^ [03:56] <_StefanS_> fdoving: well, here goes... [03:57] <_StefanS_> fdoving: old obex used this url form: obex://[00:1c:35:4f:0a:45] :10/Card memory [03:58] <_StefanS_> fdoving: now its obex2://[00:1c:35:4f:0a:45] @bluetooth:10/Card memory [03:58] <_StefanS_> fdoving: actually without [] [03:58] yep. [03:58] <_StefanS_> fdoving: if you click up in konqy you get this url: obex2://00@bluetooth:10/Card memory [03:58] <_StefanS_> fdoving: and the stuff dont work. [03:59] <_StefanS_> fdoving: I have now added those [] , and now konqy gives me maltformed url ... dialog [03:59] <_StefanS_> fdoving: removing the bluetooth from the url doesn't work either, as it can connect. [03:59] <_StefanS_> can/cant [03:59] <_StefanS_> but thats what I'm looking into now [04:00] did you figure out what removes some of the address in the first place? [04:00] <_StefanS_> but dont think kdebluetooth can work without setHost("bluetooth"), and therefore the patch for kurl.cpp to understand the new url should be. [04:00] <_StefanS_> fdoving: I did. [04:00] username/pass things? [04:00] <_StefanS_> fdoving: yep [04:00] does it use KURL->path() ? [04:00] <_StefanS_> nope. url. [04:01] can you point me to where this is done in kdebluetooth sources? [04:01] <_StefanS_> sure === apachelogger_ is now known as apachelogger [04:02] <_StefanS_> fdoving: kdebluetooth-1.0~beta4/kdebluetooth/kioslave/sdp/btsdp.cpp (setHost() bluetooth stuff) [04:03] <_StefanS_> fdoving: kdebluetooth-1.0~beta4/kdebluetooth/kioslave/obex/kio_obex/obeximpl.cpp|h for the url stuff [04:03] <_StefanS_> fdoving: maybe you can figure it out :) [04:03] obexFtpURL.setUser(mAddress); [04:04] <_StefanS_> thats the mac-address [04:04] so that's the 00:1c:35:4f:0a:45 in your case. [04:04] <_StefanS_> yep [04:04] did you change mAddress ? [04:04] to include the [] [04:04] <_StefanS_> yep [04:04] <_StefanS_> lemme find the line [04:05] <_StefanS_> its where it says mAddress = host [04:06] <_StefanS_> fdoving: at 110, : mAddress = "[" + host + "] "; [04:06] where do you remove them? [04:07] you probably need to remove them before it's actually used for anything. [04:08] _StefanS_: available in gutsy or feisty? [04:12] <_StefanS_> gutsy [04:13] _StefanS_: for example in: kioslave/sdp/btsdp.cpp void SdpProtocol::listDir(const KURL &url) === elcuco [n=elcuco@bzq-88-153-209-53.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:14] <_StefanS_> fdoving: well I didn't finish, so it might work if they're stripped [04:14] oooh :) http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0-beta1.php [04:15] <_StefanS_> fdoving: I'll try it === rbrunhuber8995 [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:16] Riddell : you are the greatest! [04:17] moi? [04:17] Riddell: Si [04:17] better than Bono? [04:17] Riddell : The U2 Bono? [04:17] yes [04:18] Riddell : Yes, because Bono did not package KDE 4 Beta 1 :-) [04:18] :) [04:19] Riddell: Did you package the beta already? [04:19] <_StefanS_> fdoving: kio_obex2: kio_obexProtocol::setHost(host=bluetooth, port=10, user=00, pass=1c:35:4f:0a:45) [04:19] <_StefanS_> fdoving: hehe the mac is splitted :) [04:19] _StefanS_: nice. so much for using kurl for everything. [04:20] manchicken: naw, I was waiting for bono to do it [04:20] <_StefanS_> fdoving: definitely has its bugs ;) [04:20] Riddell: Well, Bono won't even fight against DRM, so I don't hold out much hope. [04:20] _StefanS_: when it's used for things it's not designed to do.. yeah. [04:20] manchicken: At least heise.de found the announcement: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php [04:21] <_StefanS_> fdoving: I'm doing a nasty thing here ... QString bhost=user+pass; :) [04:21] _StefanS_: but the 00 remain after an UP. [04:21] <_StefanS_> fdoving: yes but password is not disclosed i think [04:22] _StefanS_: didn't understand what you just meant by user+pass, but if we could set the whole mac in the user= field, and drop password.. [04:22] <_StefanS_> fdoving: yes, it was sorta the same thing i meant. [04:22] _StefanS_: you can have KURL display the password, it's only hidden when prettyURL is used.. iirc. [04:22] <_StefanS_> fdoving: that explains that part atlest. [04:22] <_StefanS_> atleast [04:23] _StefanS_: http://api.kde.org/3.5-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdecore/html/classKURL.html#9382bc0e035124e884f755cff962530f [04:23] Does not contain the password if the URL has one, use url() if you need to have it in the string. [04:23] <_StefanS_> fdoving: problem is that what we get back from kURl is borked [04:23] _StefanS_: when doing what call? [04:24] <_StefanS_> fdoving: yep [04:24] <_StefanS_> fdoving: I dont split it anywhere.. [04:25] so kurl decides that the first : is a splitter. [04:25] <_StefanS_> yep. [04:25] <_StefanS_> user:password@host thingy [04:26] yep. [04:26] <_StefanS_> so.. [04:27] <_StefanS_> I kinda puzzled as to what we should do.. 1) patch kdebluetooth to take the "wrong" url and make it right 2) patch kdelibs/kdecore to possibly screw up alot, but make kdebluetooth work. [04:27] <_StefanS_> I/I'm [04:27] 1) [04:27] <_StefanS_> yep. [04:27] <_StefanS_> least probs [04:27] <_StefanS_> doing that now. === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:28] <_StefanS_> fdoving: probably first tonight, but I'll fix it. === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:29] <_StefanS_> Tonio__: read ^ [04:29] _StefanS_: is there set a user? [04:29] _StefanS_: because: a password can only appear in a URL string if you also set a user, see setUser(). [04:29] from api.kde.org [04:29] <_StefanS_> fdoving: yep .. 00 :) [04:29] <_StefanS_> no worries on that part [04:29] _StefanS_: is that set in code somwehere, or does kurl do that itself? [04:30] or is user the only thing set in code. [04:30] and kurl makes everything after the first : a pass. [04:31] the latter is correct. [04:31] <_StefanS_> fdoving: the code says so ;) [04:31] <_StefanS_> fdoving: kurl is just trying to be all smart. [04:32] yep, or kdebluetooth is very dumb. [04:32] using : in usernames. [04:32] because the username isn't a username after all :) [04:32] <_StefanS_> hehe well .. kio is broken then. [04:32] <_StefanS_> shouldn't use urls at all. [04:33] <_StefanS_> sort of a fits all approach. Only it doesn't fit. [04:33] <_StefanS_> well.. [04:33] would fit if they did it the old-way, [04:33] strip the [] before usage. [04:34] <_StefanS_> well I just leave out [] entirely as it doesn't matter. : is the problem. [04:34] then replace : with something else, - or something. [04:35] then reverse on usage. [04:35] <_StefanS_> uhm well good idea [04:35] <_StefanS_> probably the nicest one. === _StefanS_ go do. [04:44] <_StefanS_> gotta go. be back later [04:45] see you around. === lontra [n=lontra@c-75-72-235-37.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:49] where is the default colour scheme for kubuntu kept (i.e. what package and where is it physically install to) [04:50] kubuntu-default-settings [04:50] and use dpkg -L kubuntu-default-settings for the latter answer [04:52] Hobbsee: do you know what the file is called? [04:52] lontra: not offhand, but it's in artwork/ or a similar directory [04:53] kdeglobals mostly [04:54] it's also /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes/kubuntuColours.kcsrc but that's not actually used unless the user changes colour scheme [05:06] good morning [05:07] Good morning nixternal [05:09] erk! === Hobbsee is going to die === Hobbsee has to do a speech in 2 weeks. [05:09] It only feels that way. [05:09] It'll make you stronger. [05:10] it's...like...15 mins long, and i dont know the subject matter, and i havent prepared it at all === Hobbsee has only found out about it's due date, and therefore existance, in a text message just then. [05:10] Two weeks is plenty of time to be an expert. [05:10] Sounds thrilling. [05:11] Just the sort of news one wants right before trying to sleep. [05:11] yeah, well. [05:11] oh well, time for bed. [05:11] night all [05:12] Good night Hobbsee [05:12] yay, i made kdebluetooth work with Up. [05:12] Tonio__: ^^ === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.1] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:19] Riddell: thanks [05:21] fdoving: you rock :) [05:21] fdoving: don't forget to email me the patch [05:21] Tonio__: i will, and i'll cc stefans. [05:22] fdoving: super [05:22] fdoving: beta5 unfortunatelly has a lot of regressions, I'll have to take care of initial upload [05:22] fdoving: I'll probably upload tonight [05:24] Tonio__: I'm working on the new klamav upstream. Do you want me to leave you as Maintainer or make you Original-Maintainer? [05:27] ScottK: just become maintainer :) [05:27] No thank you. [05:27] Maintainer should be MOTU [05:27] I don't actually use my ubuntu.com address. [05:27] OK. [05:28] Tonio__: mail sent. [05:29] Tonio__: what i did, was to replace : with - in the mac for the bluetooth device. that way KURL doesn't mess things up. [05:31] fdoving: grat [05:31] great === bobesponja [n=bobespon@200.121.142.139] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:35] is there a mirror that already has kde 3.92 package?, I can't seem to find any as announced on http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php [05:36] Riddell: did you get a chance to look at that kvkbd package? [05:37] nixternal: nope, where is it again? [05:37] Tonio__: are you in contact with kdebluetooth upstream? [05:38] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6298 [05:38] fdoving: nope but I can [05:38] Tonio__: if you're not, i'll just mail our current patches and ask for comments etc [05:39] sure [05:41] sent. [05:44] Where in k-d-s is the katapult config file? I'm thinking of coloring it blue instead of purple (if nobody minds) === mikkael [n=michael@p54B0AC3A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:44] ryanakca: kde-rc-files/katapultrc [05:44] ryanakca: as long as you use crayola crayons, then go for it :) === ryanakca finds a box and tries coloring on his screen [05:45] haha [05:45] i just tried this without success: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php [05:45] neither the full session nor xephyr is working for me :/ [05:46] xephyr has never worked for me..no matter what I tried [05:46] mikkael: are you getting an error when logging in, or does it just kick you back out to the login screen? [05:47] the last [05:47] I have heard a few people saying that... [05:47] I haven't tried the new packages just yet [05:48] nixternal: 1 issue http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6298 [05:48] mikkael: do individual programmes work? [05:48] im not able to start a kde4 session, just followed this steps here http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php [05:49] !paste [05:49] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [05:49] did you export home? === kwwii_ is now known as kwwii [05:49] did i do right with the startkde script: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32244/ [05:50] Riddell: you forgot to add 'export KDEHOME=~/.kde4' in there [05:50] mikkael: yes [05:50] nixternal: no, it's compiled in to use that now [05:50] oh cool [05:50] mikkael: do individual programmes work? [05:50] Riddell: im on kde3 right now, have not yet logged into kde4 [05:51] mikkael: regardless, try and start them [05:51] with the environment variables set === Stecchino [n=bart@d54C56F83.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:51] when i choose the kde 4 session at kdm, fill in my login, i get thrown back to login screen [05:51] so you said [05:51] TheFuzzball in #kubuntu experience the same problem. [05:51] try running a kde 4 application from a kde 3 session [05:52] ah for example [05:52] ? [05:52] konsole [05:53] hmm this give me kde 3 [05:53] "with the environment variables set" [05:53] yes, sorry forgot to [05:53] ill try a full session now and report [05:53] brb === mikkael [n=michael@p54B0AC3A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] [05:53] no [05:53] oh jings [05:54] hehe [05:55] Riddell: mind if I 'update' the current yakuake theme to blue? or would that be up to kwwii? === mikkael [n=michael@p54B0AC3A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:07] up and running! [06:07] Riddell: at the top of copying.lib, should I place something like "this license is for the files located in the admin/ directory"? [06:07] nixternal: no [06:07] roger that, just add COPYING.LIB to the root dir, and create the .orig and that's good? [06:07] mikkael: what did you change? [06:07] nixternal: yep [06:07] well add stuff to debian/ of course [06:07] added the export line of KDEHOME to ths startkde script [06:07]