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KooolThere is desktop effects in Kubuntu (like ubuntu integrated ) ?12:16
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stdinKoool: not decided yet12:16
manu_hm is there a thunderbird support channel?12:16
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Kooolcant install xgl ?12:16
manu_i wanted to use esgys 1.5 thunderbird with webmail and hotmail12:16
vzduchmanu_: there is, on Mozilla IRC12:16
manu_but i've some trouble with it12:16
BluesKajmanu_, what's wrong ?12:17
manu_BluesKaj: the official website of webmail has only version 1-2-3 for download but 1.5 seems only to work with 1-0-X12:17
stdinKoool: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl12:17
manu_but the 1-2-3 hotmail plugin versionw as isntalled corectly12:18
stdinmanu_: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThunderbirdNewVersion12:18
manu_i created it as pop account, it seems that emails are not automatically checked, i cant see my messages on the server, but i can send messages via hotmail12:18
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BluesKajsorry manu_ ...no idea about hotmail plugin12:19
BluesKajI use thunderbird strictly on it's own , any webmail is handled thru the browser12:20
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manu_vzduch: where is mozilla irc?12:21
stdinirc.mozilla.org12:21
manu_BluesKaj: ok^^ but i like the bird and tehre seems to be a possibility :)12:21
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manu_in mozilla irc none is responding12:27
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rrbizchatzilla plugin for mozilla12:28
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vzduch!patience | manu_, this goes for Mozilla IRC as well12:28
ubotumanu_, this goes for Mozilla IRC as well: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines12:28
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manu_ok12:30
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stdinmanu_: did you look at that link?12:32
stdinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThunderbirdNewVersion12:33
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KrammerLappyhow do i uninstalled packages that i've installed in lets say the last day12:35
KrammerLappy?12:35
KrammerLappyand i dont know what they were12:35
KrammerLappybut i can't boot now...12:36
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vzduchwell, if you can't boot, you can't uninstall..12:38
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KrammerLappyi cant uses apt-get from the recovery console?12:39
KrammerLappyuse*12:39
rrbizi think u should be able to12:40
stdinso you *can* boot?12:40
KrammerLappyit just stays at the blinking cursor12:40
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stdinwhat if you choose another kernel version from the grub menu?12:41
KrammerLappyi cleared those out...12:41
KrammerLappy: /12:41
stdinthat's a lessen learnt then12:41
KrammerLappyhmph12:41
KrammerLappytheres no way to unintall packeges12:42
stdindid you just remove the menu entry's or remove the packages?12:42
KrammerLappybased on date?12:42
KrammerLappymenu entry's12:42
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lontrahow can i make konqueror have the default settings?12:42
stdinthen you can still boot them, just means you have to do it manually12:42
stdinKrammerLappy: does recovery mode work?12:42
KrammerLappyyes12:42
KrammerLappyi am in it right now12:43
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stdinKrammerLappy: just a question, do you have an nvidia or ati graphics card?12:43
KrammerLappyati12:43
stdindid you install the binary driver?12:44
jhutchinsAnybody know of a PHP script that will display an iCal file as a calendar?12:44
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KrammerLappyyeah12:44
stdinKrammerLappy: how?12:44
KrammerLappyi had dual moitors working great12:45
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KrammerLappymonitors12:45
KrammerLappyi did it a while ago...dont really remember12:45
stdinKrammerLappy: did download it from ait.com or install from adept/apt?12:45
KrammerLappyummm12:45
KrammerLappyi know i tried both12:46
Prowler_1hello, my screen resozution limit's to 640x480 how to edit xorg.file?12:46
stdinif you downloaded it from ati then that's probably why it's broke now12:46
stdin!xconfig | Prowler_112:46
ubotuProwler_1: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes12:46
KrammerLappyi dont know if its that though...i didn't do that recently12:47
Prowler_1!FixRes12:47
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:47
KrammerLappyit happened after some packages i installed12:47
KrammerLappyand then rebooted12:47
Prowler_1md5sum: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory12:48
stdinKrammerLappy: yeah, if the kernel was updated, and you used the download from ati, then it would stop X from starting12:48
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KrammerLappydoh!12:48
KrammerLappyhow do i go to my other kernels12:49
KrammerLappyif there no in the boot menu12:49
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stdinKrammerLappy: how many files dose "ls /boot/vmlinuz*" show?12:49
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KrammerLappy412:51
totorsalut!!!12:51
stdinKrammerLappy: what's the one with the highest number?12:52
stdin!fr | totor12:52
ubotutotor: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:52
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KrammerLappy2.6.20-1612:52
stdinKrammerLappy: and there is a 2.6.20.15 too?12:53
intelikeyanyone know why nvidia drivers don't work for me ???   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3863112:53
RiddellDaSkreech: you wanted me to poke you?12:53
KrammerLappynope thats not there12:53
DaSkreechRiddell: si. You said there is a Edubuntu KDE desktop?12:53
stdinKrammerLappy: i meant 2.6.20-1512:53
DaSkreechKool:you can install compiz in KDE12:54
DaSkreechsame basic concept12:54
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Ace2016intelikey: what card do you have?12:54
KrammerLappyyeah...that ones not there12:54
RiddellDaSkreech: edubuntu-desktop-kde package is in12:54
intelikeyAce2016 riva128 agp12:54
Ace2016new cards need the beta driver12:54
stdinintelikey: do you have restricted enabled?12:54
DaSkreech!info edubuntu-desktop-kde gutsy12:54
ubotuedubuntu-desktop-kde: edubuntu desktop system with KDE desktop. In component main, is optional. Version 1.36 (gutsy), package size 14 kB, installed size 44 kB12:54
DaSkreechNice12:54
DaSkreechI'll try that on 1/2 of the computers I install at the school12:55
RiddellDaSkreech: it's just kubuntu-desktop with kdeedu and ltsp-control-thingy12:55
intelikeystdin ummm did have  but that's not the point.  the driver is a build from the site12:55
RiddellDaSkreech: suggestions for other stuff to add to it welcome12:55
stdinKrammerLappy: and what does "mount | grep ' / ' " show?12:55
RiddellDaSkreech: I'd like a k-d-s extension to use the kids icon theme for example12:55
DaSkreechRiddell: So I'd have to install edubuntu-desktop and edubuntu-desktop-kde ?12:55
DaSkreechTo get all the edubuntu apps?12:56
intelikeystdin yeah that was the apt get error   good eye.   but it don't really help anything.12:56
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Ace2016intelikey: try running sudo rmmod nvidia and then sudo modprobe nvidia, i had a strange problem with nvidia drivers when i compiled it using the nvidia installer from their site, after running those commands it works perfectly12:56
RiddellDaSkreech: depends on what you mean by all the edubuntu apps, that'll install two whole desktops which you may not want12:56
KrammerLappyuhh a lot of stuff12:56
DaSkreechI know.12:56
KrammerLappywhat should i be looking for?12:56
ubuntu__if i install ubuntu to hda1 i can put win32 after?12:56
DaSkreechRiddell: installing just edubuntu-desktop-kde will get me all the edubuntu apps?12:57
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stdinintelikey: well I see " -> Kernel module compilation complete."12:57
DaSkreechubuntu___: sure. You will have to reinstall your grub menu12:57
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stdinKrammerLappy: the part with /dev in ti12:57
RiddellDaSkreech: all the KDE ones at least, look at the seed for details12:57
DaSkreechubuntu___: you probably want to do the partitioning for Windows first12:57
DaSkreechRiddell: ah.. hmm12:57
solarwaverno u dont understand i install first linux after windows?12:58
solarwaverno u dont understand i install first linux  & after the windows?12:58
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DaSkreechsolarwaver: hmm? generally you install windows first12:58
MarcCis there a Specto equivalent for KDE?12:58
DaSkreech it makes life easier12:58
stdinKrammerLappy: actually, wait a sec. I was being dumb. you can just do "update-grub"12:58
RiddellDaSkreech: actually it does come with a bunch of gnome stuff too12:58
KrammerLappyok12:58
KrammerLappyi'll try that12:58
intelikeyAce2016 http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3863212:59
Riddelldia, gpaint, gobby and others12:59
MarcChttp://specto.sf.net <-- sorry, there's a link12:59
DaSkreechRiddell: Oh sweet :)12:59
KrammerLappyk, so now im rebooting12:59
KrammerLappyand will choose the next one down12:59
DaSkreechRiddell: gcompris/12:59
DaSkreech?12:59
RiddellDaSkreech: I didn't put gcompris in since it's not in edubuntu-desktop either12:59
RiddellDaSkreech: use edubuntu-addon-young for that01:00
DaSkreechHmm could have sworn it was in there. I have it on all the machines I installed01:00
solarwaverno u dont understand i install first linux  & after the windows?if i put linux first ?01:00
DaSkreechcourse that was like Breezy01:00
Riddellyes, it's changed a lot since then01:00
DaSkreechsolarwaver: :-) what's your main language?01:00
stdinMarcC: have you checked if it will work in kde?01:00
solarwaverenglish why?01:00
stdinwoah01:00
DaSkreechcause you keep asking the same question and I keep answering01:01
MarcCstdin: I have, but...the taskbar icon has a white BG instead of transparent :/  ...so I thought I would ask :D01:01
PazyDo any of you use hotmail?01:01
stdin!hotmail | Pazy01:01
ubotuPazy: If you must use this microsoft product, consider hotway: hotwayd/hotsmtpd are POP3/SMTP-HTTPMail gateway daemons, also works for lycos spray and msn01:01
DaSkreechit does not matter which you install first. However to make life easy install windows first then linux01:01
solarwavermy friend u said that generally they put win 1st and i ask u if i put linux 1st there is a problem?01:01
KrammerLappystdin: next kernel down is still doing the same thing01:01
PazyWhat is what garbage?01:01
DaSkreechWhen did ubotu get so Microsoft hostile?01:01
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intelikeystdin the ubuntu "restricted" driver doesn't work, i tried it first and someone said i had to get that one and build it.   did   still same issue.     (just a side note: if you cp /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL /tmp/selfgz1075/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7185-pkg1/LICENSE    then start the thing you can agree to the GNU-GPL   :)01:02
PazyI just wanted to know if any of you use it, and if you feel 'dirty' accessing it on linux lol01:02
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stdinintelikey: nice :p, it looks like the driver compiled anyway so check your Xorg.0.log ?01:03
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stdinPazy: no, and if I did I would feel 'dirty' accessing it on any OS01:04
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intelikeystdin i haven't started xorg sense then   it errors out with driver nvidia01:04
stdinintelikey: it says it compiled: "-> Kernel module compilation complete."01:04
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intelikeyAce2016 i built that with 2.4.27-k6 (which i use)   and also with 2.6.15-28-386  same results both way.01:05
intelikeystdin yes but don't you like have to insert the kernel module before it is any good  ? ? ? ? ? ?01:06
KrammerLappyhmm01:06
KrammerLappyi'll try the next one down01:06
KrammerLappylol01:06
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stdinintelikey: I think xorg should do that01:06
su-hoens`rZI tried to install kubuntu but got an xorg error and then the startup hung01:07
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su-hoens`rZanyone know what's wong :/01:07
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intelikeystdin if all that is required is having a kernel module i can copy one from M$  heh   the kernel has to accept the module01:07
intelikeyand it doesn't01:07
baueri have trouble installing c++ i keep missing something. Is threre a package to download the hole bunch off c++ dependencies ?01:07
intelikeyhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3863201:07
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stdinbauer: build-essential01:07
geniibauer build-essential01:08
bauerjust that01:08
stdinintelikey: ahh, odd01:08
geniiAlso you may want to install linux-headers if you intend to do some programming01:08
intelikeyand trying to startx without the module inserted i get.  (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)01:09
intelikey(EE) No drivers available.01:09
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stdingenii: linux-headers isn't needed for programming01:09
geniistdin: Well, for drivers often01:10
baueri can't install zope3 because i will compile some part off it and it is here all the trouble began01:10
stdingenii: most drivers aren't written in c++ either ;)01:10
geniistdin: Yeah striaght C I know01:10
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geniibleh typos. I hate this freakin M$soft unnatural keyboard01:11
stdinintelikey: aren't there 3 versions of the driver, for different hardware? maybe you need another version01:11
su-hoens`rZanyone know why the X server doesn't start when i'm trying to install? :(01:11
geniisu-hoens`rZ: Perhaps instead of the intaller boot to the check CD and make sure your cdrom is good01:12
su-hoens`rZgenii i did that before installing and it passed :(01:12
bauertryed "sudo build-essential" it says "build-essential: command not found "01:12
intelikeystdin that was supposed to be the one that would work with an  riva128  care to dubble check it ?01:12
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geniibauer sudo apt-get install build-essential01:13
bauerthx01:13
bauerThe following packages have unmet dependencies:01:14
bauer  build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or01:14
bauer                            libc-dev01:14
bauer                   Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.0) but it is not going to be installed01:14
bauerE: Broken packages01:14
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geniisu-hoens`rZ: You can try vga mode01:14
su-hoens`rZgenii how?01:14
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DaSkreech!info zope301:16
geniiAlex234: I am not sure from the normal livcd but perhaps F6 then add it as a kernel option to the boot line. You may need to get the alternate install cdrom however01:16
ubotuzope3: Open Source Web Application Server (Libraries). In component main, is optional. Version 3.3.1-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 4038 kB, installed size 28056 kB01:16
geniisu-hoens`rZ: I am not sure from the normal livcd but perhaps F6 then add it as a kernel option to the boot line. You may need to get the alternate install cdrom however01:16
DaSkreechbauer: Zope3 is there01:16
geniiSorry, wrong channel :)01:16
su-hoens`rZ:(01:17
su-hoens`rZgenii ok thanks... i'm trying safe gfx mode first01:17
su-hoens`rZdoes anyone have any partitioning advice for 2tbs of drives?01:17
Biovoresu-hoens`rZ: is it hardware raided.. or seperate drives?01:18
bauerDaS DaSkreech yes but not the version ill wil use01:18
intelikeywell i'm hung in traffic, looks like about an hour and an half lag01:18
DaSkreechsu-hoens`rZ: Take .5 of it and send it to me01:18
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su-hoens`rZBiovore separate drives... i'm looking into what raid configs my mobo allows for01:19
stdinintelikey: /me is stumped01:19
intelikeywhat would you do with 2t of disks ???  install the internet ?01:19
su-hoens`rZintelikey you're funny :)01:20
su-hoens`rZwell i managed to boot do a gfx environment01:20
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su-hoens`rZbut i ddin't have a mouse connected01:20
intelikey"i'm going to backup the internet now so every body sync your servers..."    ;/01:20
su-hoens`rZhow can i reboot without hard rebooting?01:20
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stdinsu-hoens`rZ: "sudo shutdown -r now" will reboot01:21
su-hoens`rZwell01:21
su-hoens`rZi don't have an xtrm :>01:21
su-hoens`rZi just have a startup01:21
su-hoens`rZwith a mouse that isn't responding01:21
crimsunRoey: yes?01:21
su-hoens`rZhmm maybe my usb mouse will work01:21
stdinsu-hoens`rZ: kill X, Ctrl-Alt-Backspace01:21
geniisu-hoens`rZ: For ps2 mice reboot is required. USB may work however01:22
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su-hoens`rZgenii yeah i got it to reboot with usb mouse01:22
geniisu-hoens`rZ: What cpu is in the machine? Single core or dual/quad core?01:22
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su-hoens`rZdual01:23
geniisu-hoens`rZ: For some dual/quad additional kernel options may be needed like   notsc01:23
genii(disable time stamp counter in cpu)01:23
su-hoens`rZgenii needed for what?01:23
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sito_where is knetworkmanager 0.2 for feisty ?01:24
intelikeyyes usb mouse should pick right up   unplug and replug it maybe.01:24
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geniisu-hoens`rZ: To tell the kernel specifically how to handle your cpu. Because the default kernel is a generic one which most (but not all) should be OK with01:24
sito_where is knetworkmanager 0.2 for feisty ?01:24
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stdinsito_: 0.1-0ubuntu12 is the version in feisty01:25
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sito_stdin but isn't version for feisty ?01:26
geniisu-hoens`rZ: The two most common kernel options which have some effect on stuck installs seems to be:   notsc   and  noacpi01:26
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intelikeystdin i've been stumpted for 8 month now  heh.01:26
stdinsito_: no01:26
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sito_i have a problem, mi pci wlan has detected with ra0, but not wlan0, why?01:27
sito_in gusty gibon is detected in wlan001:27
stdinsito_: dose it still work?01:28
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sito_stdin i'm spanish ... i dont know your answer01:28
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stdinsito_: can you still connect with ra0 ?01:29
stdin!es01:29
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:29
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sito_i still connect with ra0 but not in knetworkmanager01:30
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sito_i have 3 router wifi01:31
intelikeyi'm going to ask again in #ubuntu see if anyone wants to pull hair in there...01:31
sito_what is the difference of ra0 eth0 and wlan001:31
geniistdin: Well, on Tues and Wed I have like 15 hour workdays so I need a lot of it then :)01:31
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stdinstdin: you may want to ask in #kubuntu-es01:32
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geniiintelikey: Ask em if they pull teeth while yer there...01:32
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intelikeyif anyone ever answers i will01:33
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ekrengelstdin: im not sure what happend but it was my xorg.conf file01:33
ekrengeli restored to my backup01:33
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KrammerLappyso01:33
newbHello everyone, i was wondering if there is someone here who would be able to help me change the resulotion on my new kubuntu install01:34
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KrammerLappynot sure what happend...i think i have my sessions to load where it left off01:34
KrammerLappyif it crashes01:34
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geniiwork, AFK a while01:34
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KrammerLappyi forget where to turn that off01:34
janethi, my computer wont shutdown when i tell it to it only restarts everytime... any clue how i can fix that?01:35
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stdinsystem settings  advanced  session manager01:35
MinatakuHeya, genii01:35
stdinKrammerLappy: ^01:35
MinatakuFREE UNICODE GIFTS FOR ALL01:35
Minataku < A fax symbol,  < an upside-down ampersand,  < a one-half,  < an omega and  < an interrobang01:35
Minataku:D01:35
janetdefault was on restart...01:36
KrammerLappyah there it is01:36
KrammerLappythanks01:36
janetbut it does it in windows to01:36
purpleposeidonsudo sudo sudo sudo sudo sudo su!01:37
geniiMinataku: Heya :)01:38
stdinhmm01:38
geniion and off computer, kinda busy here right now01:38
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geniiBTW shameless plug : Anyone in / near Toronto can see some of my art in a group show at Art Gallery of Ontario :)01:40
intelikeynice spam genii     :)01:40
intelikeyand iv'e see lots that wasn't nice  :)01:41
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geniiAt least I'm not a bot LOL01:41
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geniimostly back now01:41
intelikeytrue dat01:42
Minataku < A sun,  < a cloud,  < an umbrella,  < a snowman and  < a telephone :301:43
geniiMinataku Just the telephone showed there01:43
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Minatakugenii: I've got the perfect one for you01:43
Minataku < Some coffee! :D01:43
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geniiBut it may be me, I am currently on a windoze box and Chatzilla01:43
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geniilikely no unicode01:44
BiovoreMinataku: you can also do other languages like chinese and japanses, etc..01:44
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MinatakuBiovore: I know01:44
stdinheh, intelikey got a forward to #nvidia in #ubuntu :p01:44
Biovorelol01:45
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dmuserEvening everyone01:45
DaSkreecha snowman?01:45
DaSkreechWhat?01:46
dmuserIs there a command to reactive gdm as my default desktop manager?  It's KDM right now01:46
stdindmuser: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm01:46
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intelikeysudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow gdm01:46
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dmuserThis will allow me to continue using KDE correct?  But under the GDM?01:47
stdindmuser: yep01:47
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geniiargh01:47
geniiAFK01:48
stdinit's not talk-like-a-pirate-day already is it?01:48
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Minataku < Don't touch! It's sharp!01:48
dmuserThat worked, thanks01:48
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dsmith_anyone use synergy here?01:50
dsmith_!synergy01:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about synergy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:50
geniistdin: Avast ye squab!01:50
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DaSkreechMinataku: Candy shop01:51
stdinargg, ye be a durty see dawg01:51
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MinatakuHeehee01:52
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baxtordoes anyone have an ATI radeon 9800pro with the latest drivers working on Kubunu 7.04?01:53
geniistdin: I like to use "argh" as a sign of frustration sometimes :) The kids here are driving me nuts right now01:53
MinatakuSorry all, I'm just bored X301:53
stdingenii: I'm more partial to "ugg" myself :)01:53
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geniibleh is not bad either01:54
DaSkreechgenii: Photography or paintings?01:54
geniiDaSkreech: My stuff is drawings actually. Portrtaits01:55
DaSkreechof the children?01:56
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stdinmaybe it's me, but #ubuntu users seem to be a bit "not-as-smart-as-#kubuntu-users"01:56
MinatakuI usually use "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!"01:56
DaSkreechWon't someone think of the children!!01:56
geniiDaSkreech: Nah, some adults that come to the art program I run on Tues/Wed night01:56
MinatakuOr I just swear a lot.01:56
DaSkreechMinataku: in Unicode!01:56
DaSkreechstdin: They are smart just not helpful01:57
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DaSkreechstdin: and there are few people in #kubuntu-users01:57
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Minataku9.5401:57
stdinDaSkreech: someone has a md5sum mismatch, and replied with "laamee"01:57
baxtoris there anyone out there who could spare 10 mins to help me set up my ATi drivers?01:58
DaSkreechstdin: and he went off to encode MP3s?01:58
DaSkreech!ati01:58
stdinDaSkreech: no, he went to install wolfenstein.bin01:58
intelikey!bot | ubotu01:58
stdinSHUSH! ubotu is sleeping :p01:59
geniistdin: Yes, he certainly seems to be01:59
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baxtor!ati02:00
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stdingive him a while, he'll reboot and be good as new02:00
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stdinthen spam the channel02:00
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:00
ubotuubotu: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:00
intelikey<CompIsMyRx> intelikey: the nvidia drivers for linux support every card I know of, even my nvidia 8600gt   <CompIsMyRx> intelikey: they dont' even list linux drivers for it on the website.   <CompIsMyRx> intelikey: I stand corrected02:01
intelikeyno teeth pulling today02:01
geniiheh02:01
intelikeyonly a few grey hairs02:01
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geniiAFK gotta go smack some kids around02:03
Minatakugenii: Don't forget to send that box of parts sooner or later... please XD02:03
geniiIt went out yesterday02:04
dmuserI seem to have lost my RandR extension.  Anyone know what this is and how I fix it?02:04
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geniiOK kids are quieter now02:11
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geniiMinataku: I sent the box off yesterday02:12
Minatakugenii: Awesome! :D02:12
MinatakuThank you so much ^^02:12
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MinatakuSay, did you get the SPARCstation 10 nameplate off damage-free?02:13
geniiMinataku: There will be a second box next week02:13
BluesKajgenii, still got those cheap pcs for sale ?02:13
MinatakuPoor Usada's still without one02:13
MinatakuSince whoever had her last had scratched it up02:13
Minatakulol02:13
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geniiMinataku: Yeah I did but dunno if it's still in there. You'll have to look thru. If not I'll dig around here to find it. May have got tossed by boss02:13
julio123hello l need help  something is wrong with my menu colors http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotao1.png02:14
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intelikeywell i got another unanimus #ubuntu "your card is not supported answer"   anyone in here care to reverse that ?02:14
geniiBluesKaj: Yup, about 1500 or so left02:14
Minatakugenii: Thanks02:14
MinatakuHopefullt it's there02:14
BluesKajwow, P3s ?02:14
MinatakuOtherwise I'll have to print one off XD02:14
julio123can anyone help me ?02:15
intelikeyi can't help me  so let me try to help you02:15
BluesKajjulio123, just ask yer question02:15
geniiBluesKaj: Nah mostly P2 400 with 6.5 HD and 192 RAM   ... we DO have maybe 20 P3, mostly 667,733 and 800Mhz range with 256 RAM and 10Gb HD02:16
julio123  something is wrong with my menu colors http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotao1.png02:16
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BluesKajgenii, city hall ?02:16
intelikeygenii p2's with 6g drives   you are singing my song   :)02:16
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geniiBluesKaj: Yup, the old ones from Nathan Philips02:16
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geniiThe machine I connect with in daytime actually is one of em, with only 128 Ram and running Feisty Kubuntu02:17
intelikeyyeah  dapper here  but little differance    i did dubble the ram cause i had a stick lying around02:18
BluesKajright ...hmmm  I may be going to visit my daughter in sept ...she lives near bayview/finch...how much for a p2 with the 6g hdd02:18
MinatakuI don't care for old PCs unless they're laptops02:18
MinatakuOr they're really old02:19
geniiBluesKaj: With 6.06 Kubuntu, $7902:19
Minatakux86 is like a dirty whore... everywhere02:19
MinatakuXD02:19
Prowler_1ATIConfig problem - after res config - monitor refresh rate to high (out of range)??02:19
genii!language02:20
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:20
Prowler_1LOL :P02:20
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genii;)02:20
Minatakulol02:20
rrbiz$150 new laptops pretty soon, i'll be able to buy one for all my relatives and slap buntu on them, they'll come preinstalled with redhat, or just leave'em like that02:20
geniiBluesKaj: Comes with 15" crt, keyboard, mouse02:21
intelikeyleave em   linux is linux02:21
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BluesKajwifeys pc could use a second hdd ... cool , genii02:21
geniiPre-setup Conexant Winmodem02:21
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geniiI had to make a custom deb for that Winmodem LOL02:22
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intelikeywell if i can't get nvidia working i have no use for this 2.6 kernel so i'm going to remove it02:23
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geniirrbiz: Those MIT things you wind up with a crank?02:27
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geniino wait they were supposed to be like $5002:27
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rrbizgenii: nah they're from sweeden and are actuall full size laptops02:28
rrbizwith all decent specs02:30
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Prowler_1aticonfig problem refreshrate to high02:34
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julio123rrbiz,sorry but where are u buying the laptop?l need one :)02:35
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rrbizjulio123: it's : Medison Celebrity Laptop $150 but only news about it now02:37
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intelikeyreboot !  kernel02:39
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julio123rrbiz,oh thanks l think l will be hard to get one of those laptops02:40
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draikHello all02:40
draikQuick question: What is the Linux equivalent to m$ One Note?02:41
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andreas_ht02:42
andreas_hy02:43
andreas_hat es jemand mal geschafft sacred unter ubuntu laufen zu lassen?02:43
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stdin!de | andreas_02:44
andreas_was?02:44
stdinandreas_: /join #kubuntu-de02:44
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DaSkreechdraik: What does that do?02:45
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dick-richardsonwhat's the kubuntu equivilent of 'update-manager -d'?02:45
BluesKajstdin, ubotu is a bit slow this evening02:45
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draikDaSkreech: It's almost like word, but all the things you enter are in a "notebook". It's for college students02:45
DaSkreechah02:46
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DaSkreechStill no idea what you are talking about :)02:46
draikMy friend's daughter is thinking about converting to Ubuntu, but wants to make sure she can have her One Note02:46
dick-richardsonI guess a better question would be...what's a good method for upgrading to gutsy02:46
DaSkreechdraik: See if it runs under Wine02:46
DaSkreech!upgrade02:46
draikDaSkreech: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/onenote/FX100487701033.aspx02:46
squirrelhi, how do I overcome this error - sh: phpize: not found. ERROR: `phpize' failed02:47
ubotuandreas_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de02:47
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)02:47
DaSkreechdick-richardson: ^^^^02:48
DaSkreechexcept ... you know ... for gutsy02:48
stdindick-richardson: i just replaced all instances of "feisty" to "gutsy" in /etc/apt/sources.list02:48
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dick-richardsonI'm seeing that...I'm thinking I should be able to change references to feisty to gutsy in my sources.list?02:49
dick-richardsonkk, perfect. thank you!02:49
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DaSkreech!gutsy02:52
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+102:52
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draikDaSkreech: I was going to try WINE, but I thought I'd ask if there was something similar so I can avoid WINE02:52
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julio123rrbiz,look a this http://www.2checkout.com/community/support/topic.php?id=214&page&replies=4#post-71702:53
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DaSkreechdraik: Quick check for Linux One Note on the net?02:53
draikI'm on a KVM switch trying to resurrect a computer. Thanks for the idea02:54
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draikDaSkreech: Thanks. I found something that will definitely help her with school03:03
DaSkreechdraik: Watsit?03:03
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draikDaSkreech: Basket. AND.... it's in the repos for K/Ubuntu03:04
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DaSkreechreally? Basket can do what One note does?03:05
DaSkreech I love basker03:05
DaSkreechBasket03:05
DaSkreechThat and KDissert are great combo thinking tools03:05
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elite101hello i just did a re-install03:08
elite101lol now everything works and this time im not going to use limwire XD03:09
draikelite101: gtk-gnutella is what I use03:10
CensorBardI am needing KDE headers. What package do I need to get to get these?03:10
DaSkreech!limewire03:11
ubotulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.03:11
DaSkreech!frostwire03:11
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire03:11
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elite101lol u see i downloaded and installed limewire first and it screwed up java and broke adept03:14
elite101and the limewire packages didnt install rite so it messed up my whole system03:14
elite101but im okay now just did a re-install03:14
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elite101i will only learn through my mistakes03:15
BluesKajyeah , we know that elite10103:15
hitmanWillyelite101: that's how most of us got here :)03:15
elite101lol i removed bluetooth openoffice03:15
elite101but im understanding more and more about linux wich is great*03:15
elite101and im only 14 so i have along time to come03:16
elite101so the more i know knwo the less i will have to later03:16
elite101;p03:16
pawanhow to manage startup programs in kubuntu03:16
hitmanWillypawan: ~/.kde/Autostart03:16
elite101if i remove bluetooth services from my computer will it still start them up on boot up?03:17
hitmanWillypawan: any executable file (or link) in that dir will start on kde startup03:17
CensorBardSo I'm compiling Kmuddy, and I get this error message: " in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix!"03:18
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hitmanWillyCensorBard: sounds like you need -dev packages03:18
elite101if i remove bluetooth services from my computer will it still start them up on boot up?03:18
stdinCensorBard: you need the kde-devel package03:18
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stdinCensorBard: it's massive, but gets everything you need03:19
pawancant see that folder03:19
stdinelite101: if they aren't installed they can't start on boot03:19
stdinpawan: it's "hidden", view -> Show Hidden03:20
hitmanWillypawan: konq won't show it by default03:20
CensorBardOh my lord. Hueg package is hueg.03:20
elite101okay03:20
hitmanWillyCensorBard: its the source for all of kde IIRC03:20
CensorBardI don't think I've ever had packages take more than a minute to install before. o.0l03:20
stdinhitmanWilly: not quite, just all the headers03:21
elite101i just uninstalled them rite now the bluetooth services since i dont have abluetooth enabled phone or an adapter i just thought it would boot up faster03:21
hitmanWillystdin: still, that's a lot :)03:21
pawansome programs are starting automatically when i load kubuntu03:21
stdinelite101: maybe by about 0.001 seconds03:21
pawanhow to disable them03:21
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elite101lol03:21
hitmanWillypawan: what apps?03:21
elite101ever milisecond counts03:22
Dragnslcrpawan- when the system boots, or when you log in?03:22
pawankonversation03:22
stdinpawan: System Settings > Advanced tab -> Session Manager03:22
pawanteminal03:22
stdinpawan: set it to start a blank session03:22
elite101it seems to of made my computer faster once i uninstalled awhole bunch of things i dont need03:22
elite101the internet menu seems a little smaller :(03:23
stdinpawan: kde will (by default) start all the apps you had OPEN when you logged out, if you don't want them open close the apps before you logout03:23
hitmanWillypawan: kde remembers the apps you had loaded when you log out and starts them back up on re-login by default03:23
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hitmanWillyagain, too slow03:23
stdin<- fingers of fire :)03:23
hitmanWillylol03:24
hitmanWillystdin: you may want to run some water over those or something :P03:24
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stdinthat would kill my keyboard :p03:25
bonbonthejonkde is crashing, how can I watch what its doing03:25
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pawanstill konverstion starts automatically on startup03:27
hitmanWillyhmmm, where does kde keep its log files?03:27
pawaneven i closed it and logout03:27
Dragnslcrpawan- check ~/.kde/Autostart03:27
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pawannothing in that file03:29
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DragnslcrIt's a directory03:29
hitmanWillybonbonthejon: is it just kde or is X crashing too?03:29
bonbonthejonI think X, the screen flashes and it tries to load KDE again03:29
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hitmanWillybonbonthejon: log in in a terminal and check /var/log/Xorg.0.log03:30
pawan.directory file is there03:30
bonbonthejoni can log in using openbox, but kde doesnt work03:30
hitmanWillybonbonthejon: hmmm, probably kde then...03:31
Dragnslcrpawan- open ~/.kde/Autostart in Konqueror (or do ls -al ~/.kde/Autostart/ in a shell)03:32
DragnslcrSee what's in that directory03:32
pawanopened it03:32
pawan.directory file03:32
DragnslcrHm03:33
hitmanWillybonbonthejon: did you change anything to make kde start crashing on you?03:33
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pawanthen03:36
bonbonthejonhitmanWilly: I had installed kmyfirewall, which I heard can mess up kde, but I disabled it and kde still doesnt work03:36
pawanpawan@pawan-desktop:~$ ls -al ~/.kde/Autostart/03:37
pawantotal 1203:37
pawandrwx------ 2 pawan pawan 4096 2007-07-30 19:30 .03:37
pawandrwx------ 5 pawan pawan 4096 2007-07-30 19:30 ..03:37
pawan-rw-r--r-- 1 pawan pawan 1823 2007-07-30 19:30 .directory03:37
pawanpawan@pawan-desktop:~$03:37
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pawan!hi03:39
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!03:39
pawanhello03:39
Dragnslcrpawan- I dunno. The only two reasons I can think of for anything to start when you login is to have a link in ~/.kde/Autostart and the session restore option03:39
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pawanany software to control starup programs03:40
Sault_MeIs it possible to fetch kubuntu with the option to install later?03:40
Dragnslcrpawan- Autostart is the only one I know of03:40
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stdinSault_Me: fetch from where?03:41
Sault_MeThe repos03:41
hitmanWillybonbonthejon: hmmm, don't really know...not a kde expert...03:41
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hitmanWillybonbonthejon: id say try and find where it keeps its log files and browse through them03:42
Sault_MeI'm currently running Ubuntu, yet want to grab kubuntu tonight and install tomorrow.03:42
stdinSault_Me: sudo apt-get --download-only install kubuntu-desktop :)03:42
bonbonthejonSault_Me: yeah what stdin said03:42
Dragnslcr!info kubuntu-desktop03:43
ubotukubuntu-desktop: Kubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.32ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 44 kB03:43
Sault_MeI have read aptitude was a better approach?03:43
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DragnslcrHm, that's definitely not the info I wanted03:43
mneptokSault_Me: apt-get is fine03:43
Sault_MeIn case you decide to remove, aptitude is easier?03:43
Sault_Meah.03:43
stdinSault_Me: you can just replace "apt-get" with "aptitude" if you want03:43
DragnslcrAptitude (and Adept) is just a GUI frontend for apt03:43
stdinSault_Me: both work with --download-only03:44
hitmanWillyDragnslcr: aptitude is most definately not a gui frontenend, you're probably thinking of synaptic03:44
DragnslcrWell, pseudo-GUI03:44
Sault_MeAnd then to install it tomorrow evening i would just "install kubuntu-desktop"03:45
stdinhitmanWilly: it is a somewhat graphical frontend03:45
DragnslcrRelative to apt-get, anyway03:45
hitmanWillymeh03:45
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stdinSault_Me: yeah, same command just remove the "--download-only"03:45
DaSkreechDragnslcr: it's calleda  TUI03:45
Sault_Mestdin:  Thanks.03:45
intelikeyPPP: VJ uncompressed error03:46
intelikeyseems that freenode or some user on it is kicking a packet at me that my ppp don't like03:47
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intelikeywell i just did a clean install of intelikeybuntu03:50
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nosrednaekimintelikey: and what is that?03:50
intelikeyit's my linux syste03:51
intelikeym03:51
intelikeymmmm03:51
stdinintelikey's-ubuntu03:51
rigo_can anyone help me get gnome working?03:51
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rigo_i installed ubuntu the other day, but then someone told me to install kubuntu03:51
stdinyou seem to be in the wrong channel03:51
Sault_Mewow. the download went a lot faster than I ever remember it being before. .I only needed about 13Mb.03:51
intelikeyrigo_ what's wrong with it ?03:51
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rigo_so i installed kubuntu, but i now want to switch back to using gnome ._.03:52
stdinwhy can't you?03:52
intelikeyrigo_ select your session at the login window03:52
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pawanhow to start webcam in kubuntu03:53
rigo_i believe i have tried that, and it just put me back to the login window03:53
stdin!webcam | pawan03:53
ubotupawan: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras03:53
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intelikeyrigo_ you select the session and then login03:53
rigo_ok, one moment...03:54
Sault_Merigo_: I believe you are just seeing the KDM gdm.03:54
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Sault_Me*kde gdm03:55
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intelikeysudo dpkg-recongifure {'ubuntu-desktop',gdm} -plow03:56
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intelikeyhelps if i don't typo tho03:57
intelikeysudo dpkg-reconfigure {'ubuntu-desktop',gdm} -plow03:58
intelikeyhad to make sure it worked....03:58
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intelikeyeek it didn't   it skipped gdm altogather...     hrmmmm03:59
stdintake off the -plow04:00
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intelikeyno no   you want plow04:00
stdinit's not really need for gdm04:00
stdin*needed04:00
pawanwebcam not giving clear images04:01
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pawanwhere is gqcam located04:01
stdin!info gqcam04:01
ubotugqcam: GTK Webcam control. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-3 (feisty), package size 37 kB, installed size 156 kB04:01
pawanany good webcam software04:02
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keisangidoes someone knows of a way to get root menu without using kde or gnome (using only X and compiz)04:03
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Biovorekeisangi: you have a console?04:06
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Biovorekeisangi: just use sudo04:07
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Biovorekeisangi: the kdesu and gtksu all require kde or gnome to be running.. all the fancy gui configurations all require kde/gnome/<whatever> to be operating.04:08
keisangiBiovore, thanks for reply, but that's not what i meant,04:08
keisangii was speaking about a menu you get if you click on desktop root window04:09
keisangiwithout using kde/gnome whatever .. i just use X and compiz-fusion04:09
Biovorethats handled by a window manager of some kind.. I am not sure if compiz-fusion handles that level..04:09
mikeI just compiled the latest ATI driver from GIT and got it up and running. I have direct rendering, but when I try to run "compiz --replace &", X crashes. This is on a Radeon Xpress 200M. Any ideas?04:09
Biovoreits ATI.. expect trouble..04:10
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Biovore!effects04:11
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Biovorehmm the bot taking a dirt nap?04:11
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rigo_im back ._.04:12
rigo_now i start up to the unbuntu login04:12
ubotuFor help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects04:12
Biovoreyay... Its alive..04:12
rigo_but selecting gnome then logging in just takes me back to the login screen04:13
Biovorerigo_: sounds like gnome crashing on login..04:13
mikeBiovore: thanks04:13
rigo_so how do i make it...not crash :/04:13
Biovorenp :-P04:13
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Biovorerigo_: no clue.. something is eather corrupt or you changed something that makes gnome crash..04:14
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Biovorerigo_: might want to ask in the gnome channel.. #ubuntu and not the kde channel here..04:14
rigo_do i need to reinstall ubuntu? im using kubuntu right now04:14
Biovorerigo_: both can live on the same install04:15
Biovorerigo_: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop04:15
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Biovorethere just different graphical enviroments.. you can have many of them on a box at the same time..04:15
Biovorethere just programs04:16
rigo_i already have gnome installed though it seems04:16
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Biovorerigo_: were you ever able to log into it?04:16
rigo_yes, before i installed kubuntu04:17
Biovorerigo_: are you using kdm as your login manager or gdm?04:17
rigo_i think i am using gdm04:17
rigo_it says ubuntu04:18
rigo_._.04:18
Biovoreok04:18
rigo_someone gave me sonething to change that04:18
Biovorerigo_: might have to ask in #ubuntu..  This channel is for kde04:19
rigo_im currently trying that04:19
rigo_its moving too fast though, they keep missing my questions ;_;04:19
rigo_or maybe im missing the answers...04:19
Biovorerigo_: The only thing I could suggest tring is to mv your ~/.gnome folder to ~/.gnome-back  and then try loging into gnome04:19
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boris__how do I bust this ass and convert it to ISO04:34
boris__Allman Brothers Band 9-23-70.bin04:34
boris__VCD04:35
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elite101is there a good dvd ripper on kubuntu? that will rip and compress DVD's?04:38
hitmanWillyelite101: k3b04:39
elite101i sayed ripper? not burner04:39
elite101or does it to them both?04:39
hitmanWillyelite101: it does that too :)04:39
elite101okay04:39
elite101is it good thou? like high quality?04:39
hitmanWillyelite101: its as good as you set it up for04:40
elite101k04:40
szakulecI'm having an unusual problem when trying to play a video-  it's showing an X error on the console04:40
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BluesKajszakulec, did it just begin? have the video played ok , previously?04:41
szakulecit just started happening a few days ago04:42
szakulechere's the output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32190/04:42
BluesKajszakulec, have you installed libdvdcss2 ?04:43
boris__Blueskaj04:44
boris__zemljace04:44
szakuleclet me check04:44
boris__dede04:44
boris__kako da pretorim u iso04:44
boris__ovo04:44
boris__Allman Brothers Band 9-23-70.bin04:44
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szakulecnot installed04:45
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BluesKajthen you know what to do , szakulec ;)04:46
BluesKajszakulec, sudo aptitude install libdvdcss204:48
BluesKajboris ..bin file ?04:49
BluesKajvideo04:49
BluesKajboris, in the terminal ./Allman Brothers Band 9-23-70.bin04:50
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killborgkiddoes anyone here know how to get to the beryl server?04:56
killborgkidanyone at all?04:57
DragnslcrWhat beryl server?04:57
killborgkidummmm04:58
killborgkidirc.freenode.org04:58
killborgkidim guessing04:58
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DragnslcrYou're already on Freenode04:58
killborgkidhmmm04:58
killborgkidthen where is the beryl chat04:58
DragnslcrDunno if there's a #beryl or not. I know there's #ubuntu-effects and #compiz-fusion04:59
killborgkidok thank you04:59
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Admiral_ChicagoI need help with postfix, is someone around to help me out?05:01
DaSkreech!postfix05:01
ubotupostfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto05:01
DaSkreechSweet05:01
Admiral_ChicagoDaSkreech: i'll check out your link05:01
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Admiral_Chicagono it doesnt05:03
Admiral_Chicagoi'm trying to add /etc/aliases to alias_maps05:03
Admiral_Chicagoand that doesn't make sense05:03
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Admiral_Chicagowhat the crap...oh well05:05
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DaSkreechWhat are you doing?05:10
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nancyHello folks..just dropped a wireless card in my dell desktop.  What's the first step in seeing if it's even recognizing it ?  "Knetwork-manager"  only shows the normal WIRED connection and no mention of the wireless at all.  What's my next step ?05:11
nancyKubuntu  feisty/Kde 3.6.x05:12
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intelikey!wifi05:13
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:13
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nancyThanks,  I'll start there05:13
CensorBard!simplemu05:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about simplemu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:14
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nancyOh one other thing.  (I'm coming over from Suse 10.x) so I'm kinda wingin' it along here.  Where can I set the powermanagement?  For instance how long before shutting down the drives due to inactiviity,   suspend mode...   frequency scaling,  etc?  I cannot find anything like that in the menus.05:15
CensorBard!utorrent05:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about utorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:15
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mneptokCensorBard: ktorrent05:16
elite101hey i just upgraded my kernel from 1.0 to 2.6 but my computer is running a little slow now05:16
elite101;p05:16
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nancyNext question please?  I was reading that somewhere in the repo's there is a I686 kernel that can e installed through Adept.  But I don't seem to be able to find it.  Is it there or will I have to grab it from somewher else and install myself?  (all repos - multiverse...and all others are enabled)  Thanks05:18
crimsun-686 is obsolete as of 7.0405:19
crimsunits features are part of -generic now, which is installed by default05:19
crimsunyou can confirm with `uname -r' in a Konsole05:19
nancycrimsun:   This is what I got running what you said:   2.6.20-16-generic05:22
nancyAnd that is all.05:22
crimsunthat's correct and expected.05:22
intelikeywhat do you have to do to convert standard ext2fs to an ext3fs  doesn't it have to be sparce supperblock or something ?05:22
nancyalrighty then...thanks crimsun05:22
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crimsunintelikey: tune2fs -J /dev/fooX05:23
crimsunerr, that's a lowercase 'j'05:23
crimsunso, tune2fs -j /dev/fooX05:23
intelikeycan it be mounted at the time ?05:24
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intelikeyit's my /05:24
raylushould i be using adduser or useradd?05:24
crimsunperhaps read-only05:24
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intelikeyraylu depends on how you want it to preform05:25
intelikeyadduser is probably more of an automated thang05:25
ardchoillelol @ thang05:25
intelikeyand possably even a warper for useradd05:25
intelikeyardchoille :)05:26
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dice14uanyone: Im having trouble installing beryl, the error that arises is05:27
dice14uXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display05:27
dice14uChecking for non power of two texture support   : failed05:27
dice14uanyone have any ideas?05:27
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hitmanWillydice14u: try in #ubuntu-effects05:28
ardchoilleintelikey: warper?05:28
rayluintelikey, what do you mean by that?05:28
ardchoilleintelikey: You been drinking?05:28
intelikeyardchoille yeah    so ?05:29
ardchoillelol05:29
intelikeyraylu which "that" please ?05:29
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steve__any1 here05:30
raylu<intelikey> raylu depends on how you want it to preform05:30
ardchoillesteve__: yes05:30
intelikeyardchoille nah man i aint drunk just stupid.05:30
steve__wats up05:30
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neusonce hey guys05:31
hitmanWillysteve__: the sky05:31
steve__ardchoille wats up05:31
ardchoillesteve__: Not much.05:31
steve__sweet05:31
neusoncei was wondering if there was any feature in kubuntu05:31
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ardchoilleneusonce: There's a feature or two, yes05:31
intelikeyraylu if you want it to ask for a password and assume that the user will live in /home/something  then use adduser   if you want to specify all the info use either but useradd is the posix standard05:31
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weezhello all,  how do I build a kubuntu system using debootstrap?  I was thinking if I simply run "debootstrap feisty" that it would build an ubuntu system05:32
rayluintelikey, ok, i just used deluser05:32
rayluon an account i created05:32
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raylubut the home folder still exists.05:32
zimmoUnable to initialize SDL (Couldn't get console hardware info)05:32
zimmowhat does it mean?05:33
hitmanWillyraylu: sudo rm it05:33
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intelikeyraylu that's what man pages are for.    man man05:33
hitmanWillyraylu: assuming the user has been removed, it should be fine05:33
neusonce guys  is there any feature on kubuntu thats like the windows version of  ctrl+alt+del ?05:33
neusonce i need a task manager to shut down a program05:34
weezneusonce, what for specifically?05:34
intelikeyneusonce ctrl+alt+esc  opint and click05:34
zimmops -d05:34
zimmokill [number] 05:34
ubuntu__stupid question.. cant find remote desktop05:34
hitmanWillyneusonce: killall <appname> works as well05:34
weezintelikey, cool, didnt know about that one05:34
neusonceK9 copy i ripped a dvd but now is saying  error dvd burning error k9c05:35
weezintelikey, is that built into Xorg?05:35
intelikeyweez it's "xkill"  iirc05:35
rayluintelikey, ok, thanks. i was afraid rming it would screw something up05:35
hitmanWillyneusonce: or if the app is still open in a window, xkill then click it05:35
weezintelikey, so then kde must have the key bound05:35
weezintelikey, i assume gnome does the same..05:35
ubuntu__nvm got it sorry05:36
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intelikeyraylu nah man only thing you need to be careful about on user accounts is nuking your sudo'r   if root jr. bites the bullet you'll be in single user mode trying to add a root passwd05:36
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intelikeyweez as far as i know most DE's use that hotkey set for xkill  yes05:37
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intelikeyin twm it's a base menu itom    you clikc xkill and what ever you click next better jump back05:38
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hitmanWillyintelikey: window maker has it set as a titlebar option05:39
alain_hello everyone05:39
DaSkreechintelikey: Why not give him Ctrl+Esc?05:39
alain_i need help on making my wireless to work05:39
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intelikeythat's where i first got aquanted with the little poison dart05:39
DaSkreech!wifi05:39
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:39
intelikeyDaSkreech i thought someone else did that one...05:40
intelikeydid i dream it ?05:40
DaSkreechyup05:40
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josefguys i cant play mp3 on my feisty. any solution05:40
intelikeyi guess i did.   sorry,05:40
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intelikeyneusonce  ctrl+esc   also.05:41
melkorjosef mpg32105:41
jtonghow do u use run a server without a root user?05:41
josefok thank melkor05:41
jtongi ps and found out ? is running apache05:42
melkorjosef thats a command line program05:42
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neusoncehey guys05:42
melkorif you run amorak it will ask you if you want to d/load the codecs to play mp3 files.05:42
DaSkreech!mp3 | josef05:43
ubotujosef: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:43
josefoooh so i have to type it thru the terminal right05:43
intelikeyjosef all linux systems have a root user   i'm not sure you can "not have a root user"   just that the account is locked so that you can't login to it05:43
DaSkreechjosef: not really :)05:43
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DaSkreechYou can enable multiverse and install libxine-extracodecs05:44
josefok so normally i should your adept or not05:44
intelikeycould type it through your chat client too05:44
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neusonceim a kubuntu newbie i have a few skills and kinda understand it but in essence im a baby  im having asome issues with buring some of my dvds  i need to back them up but in australia  the only dvds we can get are 4.7 gigs05:44
intelikey/exec -o echo see me05:44
neusonce im having issues with buring them05:45
melkorjosef if you get mpg321 you do, but if you get the codecs amorak and the 'xine' programs will work05:45
neusonce can some one plz hlep05:45
Dr_willisneusonce,  what kind of dvds you refering to?05:45
neusonce well iv brought ex rental dvds and ther roughtly 9 gigs05:45
josefok i will try thanks everybody i come back again later thanks05:46
Soulwarpi just want to say i love kubuntu a lot since i been using it :)05:46
neusoncei can only buy 4.705:46
Dr_willis!info k9copy05:46
ubotuk9copy: DVD backup tool for KDE. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.0~beta2-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 649 kB, installed size 1764 kB05:46
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Dr_willisI just rip my dvd's to avi files.05:46
DaSkreechSoulwarp: welcome05:46
hitmanWillyneusonce: you could rip them with k3b, then reburn them05:46
intelikeyDr_willis special reason not to use .ogg ?05:47
neusonce and wehn i try to burn them  in k9 copy it  says burning error buti dont wanna burn them in k9 i want to burn them from a folder  i preselected  as an iso  and when i use 9 to 5 it says build erroe05:47
neusonceerror*05:47
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Dr_willisintelikey,  my portable player cant play them :)05:47
neusonce no05:47
intelikeyok05:47
neusoncei need them to play on a normal dvd so i can enjoy the on a plasma05:47
Dr_willisi encode them to xvid normally.05:47
neusonce ok now im listeing05:47
hitmanWillyintelikey: i use avi myself, since i like xvid05:48
neusoncei am youre student05:48
hitmanWillyand i have yet to see xvid in an ogg wrapper :)05:48
intelikeyhitmanWilly i was just wondering why i usually see blah to "and its never .ogg"    </shrugs>05:48
DaSkreechhitmanWilly: sacrilege!05:49
Dr_willisI cant say that ive ever seen videos in .ogg, seen a lot of other 'extensions' :)05:49
Dr_willismkv, divx, ect...05:49
Dr_willisI may have some ogg's id have to che3ck05:49
hitmanWillyintelikey: honestly, cuase theora sucks :P05:49
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intelikeywell05:50
Dr_willisI gotta convert some of these .mkv's to xvid/avi's some day for my portable player05:50
intelikeyi never !05:50
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hitmanWillyintelikey: i know that's not the party line, but it's the truth imho05:50
hitmanWillynow vorbis, on the other hand....05:51
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hitmanWillyintelikey: its the video codec usually seen in an ogg wrapper05:51
DaSkreechIt's the younger scappier brother of Vorbis05:52
neusonce guys  is there a  program that is similer to dvd shirnk i can use05:52
DaSkreechHow about dvdshrink?05:52
elite101k3b05:52
Soulwarpi been messing with ffmpeg trying to get my divx files to mp4 for my portable player05:52
elite101lol use wine05:52
hitmanWillyneusonce: k3b rips dvd's quite nicely05:52
neusonce but i need ti compress05:52
Soulwarpi hear it's good05:52
neusonce them05:52
hitmanWillyneusonce: or use dvd:rip if you want a somewhat more hands-on approach05:52
hitmanWillyneusonce: it transcodes them to standard codecs05:53
hitmanWillyneusonce: hence, compressing them05:53
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hitmanWillyneusonce: otherwise you could just dd it to an iso :)05:54
intelikey:)05:54
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Dr_willisTesting out k9copy at the moment.05:55
Dr_willisI never actually burn my dvd rips back to dvd. :)05:55
intelikeythe other day i had my wife on her knees begging me.05:55
Dr_willis!language05:55
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:55
Dr_willis:)_05:55
intelikeyyeah she said "please come out from under that bead and fight like a man"05:55
intelikeybed05:56
Soulwarpbeard?05:56
Soulwarp;p05:56
elite101[23:55]  <intelikey> the other day i had my wife on her knees begging me.    yeah and so did i!!! lmao jk05:57
elite101:P05:57
intelikeyyou're so cute05:57
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Soulwarpi always wondered why kubuntu was seperate from ubuntu... why not have the user choose the window environment instead of making 2 packages06:00
Soulwarpat start up06:00
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intelikeySoulwarp disk space06:00
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DaSkreechSoulwarp: Startup?06:00
intelikeynot room for both on the install cd06:00
Soulwarpinstall i meant06:00
DaSkreechCd space06:00
Soulwarpah that makes sense06:01
DaSkreechOn the DVD AFAIK both of them are there06:01
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intelikeyand you do "choose at install time" you get the cd you want06:01
Dr_willisDaSkreech,  they are? I never noticed that.06:01
DaSkreechIt's all of main06:02
DaSkreechso yeah06:02
Dr_willisI normally dont mess with the dvd however. aint tried it lately06:02
hitmanWillywell, the original idea of ubuntu was to have everything standardized to make the install as painless as possible for the end user06:02
Dr_willisthen again. theres so many updates at times. often ya end up redownloading  a lot of stuff anyway06:02
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intelikeyhitmanWilly boy did they foul that up06:02
Soulwarpi remember when i tryed ubuntu i hurried and got kde just to realise i could have gotten kubuntu06:02
hitmanWillyall the other buntu variants are just forks of that06:03
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Soulwarpand saved a cd06:03
hitmanWillyintelikey: yeah....06:03
Dr_willisI perer 'sporks'06:03
Dr_willis:)06:03
Dr_willisI always install kubuntu desktop, and ubuntu desktop both. :)06:03
intelikeysporks are handy  but don't cut steak well06:03
DaSkreechSoulwarp: Now you know06:04
Gun_SmokeI can not connect to IRC via kopete....  humm..06:04
SoulwarpDaSkreech :)06:04
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DaSkreechSoulwarp: so you knew it had KDE but didn't know about Kubuntu?06:04
DaSkreechGun_Smoke: Praises be06:04
intelikeyDaSkreech be nice06:05
hitmanWilly99% of all linux distros offer both gnome and kde, even if one of them is the default06:05
intelikeyhitmanWilly one of them is almost always the default06:05
SoulwarpDaSkreech i didn't realise kubuntu was KDE. when i loaded ubuntu up and expected ked and got gnome, i did some homework and got kubuntu06:05
DaSkreechsorry06:05
hitmanWillydidn't used to be that way...06:05
DaSkreechI don't like Kopete :-(06:05
Soulwarpi was a mandriva fan06:06
Dr_willisKDEubuntu :)06:06
DaSkreechhitmanWilly: Shut yo mout'!06:06
SoulwarpX)06:06
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DaSkreech99% pffft06:06
hitmanWillywell, buntu was the first distro i ever ran off of a gui (not tui) installer06:07
intelikeygun_smoke  you hidding ?06:07
intelikeyi think he's hideling06:08
hitmanWillyheck, even fedora gives you the option at install time06:08
Dr_willisI want an installer that lets me play Solitare while it installs..06:08
Dr_willis:)06:08
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Dr_willisor Tetris06:08
DaSkreechhitmanWilly: So you pull up one example to cover all 400 distros06:08
DaSkreechOr Tuxio!06:09
intelikeyhitmanWilly i installed mdk 9-10 from gui type interfaces.   and i think rh9 was a gui type install too06:09
hitmanWillyDaSkreech: that was just the first one that came to mind....06:09
DaSkreechRH has nearly always been a GUi install06:09
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HomeRoeyhi!!06:10
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DaSkreech!hi06:10
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!06:10
HomeRoeyhehe06:10
hitmanWillyDaSkreech: slack, debian, red hat, gentoo doesn't even install X by default06:10
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intelikeyDaSkreech well only if you count ncurses as a gui06:10
DaSkreechhitmanWilly: fluxbuntu to vounter your fedora06:10
DaSkreechcounter06:10
HomeRoeyQuestion on mx1000 mouse... I'm trying to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MX1000Mouse,  but it doesn't seem to work with kdm06:10
HomeRoeyin that kdm doesnt' seem to honor it -at all-06:10
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hitmanWillyDaSkreech: i HATE rpm distros...use gentoo on this box06:10
intelikeykdm or kde ?06:11
HomeRoeyboth?06:11
HomeRoeyintelikey:  and more than that,06:11
HomeRoeyintelikey:  it seems like I HAVE to have usbmouse loaded, too06:11
HomeRoeyintelikey:  and that's never happened before... like, I had to manually insert the line "usbmouse" into /etc/modules.06:11
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HomeRoeyor else the mouse cursor wouldn't move.06:12
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HomeRoeyintelikey:  it's as if every time I reboot I get different behavior... something breaks, other stuff magically fixes itself, etc.06:12
intelikeyyou installed  xvkbd xbindkeys xmacro xserver-xorg-input-evdev ?06:12
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bigmanoncampushi06:12
bigmanoncampusi got a problem06:12
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kgxhey is it possible to do svn mv and keep the change history?06:12
intelikeyHomeRoey grimlins ?06:12
bigmanoncampusi have installed kubuntu06:12
bigmanoncampusand i restart the computer06:13
bigmanoncampusand it says error loading operating system06:13
bigmanoncampuswhat the fuck is going on06:13
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hitmanWillybigmanoncampus: sounds like grub wasn't installed properly06:13
intelikey!grub | bigmanoncampus06:13
ubotubigmanoncampus: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:13
bigmanoncampushow do i fis it06:13
HomeRoeyintelikey:  hehehe06:14
HomeRoeyintelikey:  how do I set autostart stuff in kde again?06:14
intelikey!autostart06:14
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.06:14
bigmanoncampusbut i got a dedicated hard drive for it06:14
bigmanoncampusmmm06:14
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intelikeybigmanoncampus matters not where it's installed it has to ahve a boot loader between bios and the os06:15
intelikeygrub is the default boot loader but there are others06:15
intelikeyi have to use lilo cause grub can't boot whole disk fs's06:15
intelikeyHomeRoey what version did you say ?     feisty ?06:16
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CensorBard!foobar200006:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about foobar2000 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:17
CensorBard!winamp06:17
ubotuwinamp is a windows music player. On Ubuntu you can use beep-media-player or xmms as alternative.06:17
bigmanoncampusis ther an auto thing for lilo06:18
bigmanoncampuslike can i download lilo06:18
intelikeyor let me rephrase that   grub can't boot anything your bios can't boot.   because it depends on bios to read in the kernel and initramfs pair06:18
bigmanoncampusand it will auto install for me06:18
HomeRoeyintelikey:  yes that's correct06:18
HomeRoeyintelikey:  does KDM read .xbindkeys??06:18
HomeRoeyer06:18
intelikeybigmanoncampus it's in the main repo    but lilo is not as automatic as grub.06:18
HomeRoeyintelikey:  .xbindkeysrc?06:18
HomeRoeyintelikey:  does KDM run it at all?06:19
HomeRoeyintelikey:  is there a way to set a system-wide xbindkeysrc that KDM can run?06:19
intelikeyHomeRoey no kdm does not read from your home dir06:19
hitmanWillybigmanoncampus: you said you had a dedicated hd for kubuntu, correct?06:19
elite101_will real msn work on kubuntu i wann try i mean its a .exe and i have wine installed i am using kopete but i wanna play games!!06:19
HomeRoeyintelikey:  that's why I asked about a systemwide xbindkeysrc06:19
HomeRoeyin e/tc06:19
HomeRoey*in /etc06:19
intelikeyHomeRoey errr yeah there are files in /etc/kde3/kdm/ that can do what you are wanting06:20
HomeRoeyintelikey:  and also then, why does kde not execute the symlink to xbindkeys that I have set in ~/.kde/Autostart ?06:20
HomeRoeyintelikey:  ah, hm06:20
DaSkreechelite101_: Check #winehq06:20
hitmanWillybigmanoncampus: did you install grub on that drive, or on your main one?06:20
DaSkreechelite101_: I'd say your chances aer low06:20
bigmanoncampushow do i install grub06:20
Dr_willis!grub06:20
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:20
intelikey               ^06:20
HomeRoeyintelikey:  00:20:46 kdm ls06:20
HomeRoeybackgroundrc  kdmrc    Xreset    Xsetup    Xwilling06:21
HomeRoeykdm.options   Xaccess  Xsession  Xstartup06:21
bigmanoncampusmmmm06:21
DaSkreechMS is well known for pulling off tricks in it's internal software that is not documented or available to anyone else06:21
DaSkreech!paste06:21
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:21
bigmanoncampusmaybe if i set my boot to master hard disk06:21
HomeRoeyintelikey:  there are a few script files there that I don't think shoudl be edited06:21
bigmanoncampusgrub will come up06:21
bigmanoncampusbe back soon guys06:21
bigmanoncampusthanks for your help06:21
intelikeyHomeRoey oh don't be a fraidy roey   :)06:21
intelikeyif it's a script it begs me   "rewrite me please please please...."06:22
HomeRoeyit's just that I don't wnat to have to do too much system-specific administration... nex ttime I set up an installation on this system... I'll have to remmeber all of this.06:22
HomeRoeyintelikey:  aaahahaaha, cute :)06:22
intelikeyHomeRoey oh if that's the true goal,  i defer to the ubuntu staff     that's exactly what they gear toward,  non-adminestrated-linux     or is that another word for windows,   i forget...06:23
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Dr_willisthats OS-X06:24
HomeRoeyintelikey:  oof, c'mon.06:24
HomeRoeythis is a trivially stupid problem.06:24
Dr_willisI really do very little tweaking on my machines.06:24
intelikeyoh yeah os-x  thanks doc06:24
Dr_willisfix up samba a little,  thats about it.06:24
hitmanWillyintelikey: no, replace linux with bsd and you have OSX, tho06:24
HomeRoeyI don't find it elegant to have to hack up a (normally System-managed) script to have to get this to work.06:24
HomeRoeyI have an mx1000 mouse, I can't get the fucking mouse wheel working.06:25
HomeRoeyJesus Christ, give me a break here.06:25
DaSkreechhitmanWilly: and stacks :)06:25
HomeRoeyoh, and stacks too.06:25
DaSkreechHomeRoey: Not logged in right now. Like to leave a message?06:25
intelikeyanyway can someone help HomeRoey with a non-script-rewriting way of making the mouse work better  ?06:25
HomeRoeythanks intelikey06:25
HomeRoey:)06:25
DaSkreechThough I guess that would mean he IS giving you a break and no you don't want to contact him06:25
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Dr_willis:)06:26
hitmanWillywell, if its just the wheel, you can fix that in xorg.conf, but that involves config rewriting :)06:27
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HomeRoeyhitmanWilly:  hell I had to do that ;)06:27
thunderboltDr_willis: then what would we call gopher?06:27
mehey06:27
meit worked06:27
hitmanWillythunderbolt: dead?06:27
meall i had to do is set bios to boot off the master06:27
Dr_willisMove the Goper over to the left.. :)06:28
meand it gave me option06:28
CS5Hey I just wanted to say TY to all of you who convinced me to upgrade my Ubuntu to the Feisty Fawn, I am lovin it. Much better.06:28
Dr_willisclick its nose...06:28
me:)06:28
HomeRoeyhitmanWilly:  I added the stanza according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MX1000Mouse06:28
HomeRoeyemm06:28
HomeRoeybrb06:28
mewhat is feisty fawn06:28
CS5Lol, Ubuntu 7.1006:28
intelikeyme code name06:28
meis it good06:28
CS5Oh yes.06:28
mewhy is it better06:28
CS5What are you running, me?06:29
purpleposeidonare you running windows me?06:29
purpleposeidon</badjoke>06:29
CS5More stable for me, handles the hardware better, nicer, just all around better than the dapper or edgy distro's i tried06:29
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CS5lol06:30
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Dr_willisthe Trout wasent fresh! here use this Mackeral06:30
CS5It would be better if ya had a squid06:30
purpleposeidonlol06:30
Dr_willisHard to swing a squid.06:30
CS5lol06:30
Dr_willisand the ink gets all over.06:30
CS5yes slippery fuckers06:30
purpleposeidona small squid, maybe06:30
Dr_willissquids are more of a 'flail' effect.06:31
hitmanWillybut they have plenty of places to grab on to :)06:31
CS5Mid size would hurt more06:31
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HomeRoeyhi again06:31
purpleposeidoncould wrap a rope around it06:31
CS5O yes multiple hits06:31
intelikeywarty warthog 4.10   hoary hedghog 5.4   breasy badger 5.10   dapper drake 6.6   edgy eft 6.10   feisty fown 7.4   gutsy gibon 7.10 candadate06:31
purpleposeidonswing it around...06:31
intelikeythat's the full line up  ^  ubuntu's whole life06:31
purpleposeidonhorny hedgehog 8.406:32
CS5Gutsy is 7.1?06:32
CS57.10?06:32
purpleposeidonah, they already did hedghog...06:32
intelikeyyes  and this isn't 7 10 yet06:32
CS5OMG, I didn't realize...I have upgraded to it...Thought Feisty was 7.1006:33
HomeRoeyDaSkreech, intelikey:  yeah it /was/ a problem with KDM.  I just killed KDM and startx'd manually and xbindkeys runs fine.  I have xbindkeys ~/.xbindkeysrc in my .xinitrc file, btw, which KDM doesn't run.  But I also have a link to the xbindkeys command in ~/.kde/Autostart/... yet it doesn't seem to work.  Can I just stick a symlink to the command there?  Or do I need to make  small script to get it to load ~/.xbindke06:33
HomeRoeyysrc specifcally? (I thought xbindkeys looks for ~/.xbindkeysrc by default)06:33
intelikeypurpleposeidon yes i still have one box running the white headed porcupine06:33
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DaSkreech!language | CS506:34
ubotuCS5: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.06:34
HomeRoeyDaSkreech:  language on 'omg'??06:35
purpleposeidonI think he missed. :b06:35
intelikeyHomeRoey i think you can just add it in  /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc   or is it kdm.conf   which ever is there06:35
DaSkreechno read back up06:35
HomeRoey<purpleposeidon> ah, they already did hedghog...06:35
HomeRoeyer06:35
HomeRoey<purpleposeidon> horny hedgehog 8.406:35
purpleposeidonmissed again!06:35
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purpleposeidonno, when you were refering to the squid, I think06:35
HomeRoeyhmm06:35
HomeRoeyoh.06:35
intelikeyHomeRoey if you open the file with   kdesu kate and read a little in the comments youll see it's not that scarry06:36
HomeRoeyintelikey:  lemme check06:36
purpleposeidonhorny is family friendly! :D06:36
HomeRoeyintelikey:  ok06:36
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intelikey:)06:36
HomeRoeyintelikey:  ah... I see your concern.  I'm not really scared by it, I just wonder if this is the accepted way to get around this problem.06:36
HomeRoeyintelikey:  it seems like 'brute-forcing' it to me06:36
DaSkreechHorny toads!!06:37
intelikeypurpleposeidon about as family friently as you can get and still be leagle06:37
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intelikeyHomeRoey how long you been playing with FOSS ?06:37
purpleposeidonDaSkreech: They loved him up and turned him into a .... *horny toad!*06:37
DaSkreech>they<06:38
mewhere can i download games for kubuntu06:38
purpleposeidon!nethack06:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nethack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:38
mefuck this is so much better then windows06:38
HomeRoeyintelikey:  since 98.06:38
purpleposeidonubotu! :O06:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about o - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:38
HomeRoeyintelikey:  I'm all into the spirit of thigns, trust me.06:39
CS5DaSkreech You didn't have to tell on me, you could have just said it, I realized after what I had done....Sorry Everyone for offending.06:39
HomeRoeyintelikey:  look... apt-get sees a file it's managing has been updated, and it won't update it.  I might break compatibility with future versions of kdm because I updated this file.06:39
CS5DaSkreech That sry is for you 206:39
medoes anyone know where i can download games06:39
CS5;)06:39
DaSkreechCS5: Nothing personal somepeople don't know. This way a general message is sent06:39
HomeRoeyintelikey:  so I want to touch the system-wide scripts as >little< as possible06:39
DaSkreech!games06:39
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org06:39
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CS5I know , Np ty for the explaination, its all good.06:40
DaSkreechMe: also getdeb.net06:40
intelikeyHomeRoey maybe no one gave you "the lecture" ?   well here goes.   THE major differance in propritary and FOSS is that you own your copy of linux and while there are "standards" to use as guidelines to help keep things "portable" there really is only one right way,  and that's the way the owner decides to do it....  and that's you.06:40
CS5I was just Fu$%i*& wit ya.06:40
DaSkreechMe: also happypenguin.org06:40
CS5lol06:40
CS5Bad joke06:40
intelikeyso what ever works for you is the right way to fix it.06:40
CS5get the squid06:40
CS5me, how new are you too computers?06:40
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CS5It isnt a biggy but it would help me or anyone help you if we knew06:41
HomeRoeyintelikey:  right, but there's gotta be a more elegantway to do this..06:41
intelikeyHomeRoey feel free to find it.  cause i don't know what it is.    and i'll help where i can...06:41
intelikey:)06:42
intelikeyme gametome.org06:43
intelikeyme package manager06:43
intelikey!repos | me06:43
ubotume: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:43
intelikeyme you'll be wanting that link  ^06:44
DaSkreechMe: have you enabled all your repos?06:44
intelikeyjust as well get it now.06:44
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gandhiihow do you map a network drive?06:45
intelikeynmapfe06:45
intelikey!info nmapfe06:46
ubotunmapfe: The Network Mapper Front End. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.20-1 (feisty), package size 104 kB, installed size 228 kB06:46
intelikeyhow do you do it ?06:46
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intelikeyHomeRoey closing thought on that,  all i can do is hand out free advice and information,   it's not always the best but the price is the same for good or bad advice    it's all free  :)06:49
meis wine hard to work ?06:50
intelikeyme no06:50
DaSkreechintelikey: You have obviously never had to pay the cost of bad advice06:50
intelikeyDaSkreech DaSkreech DaSkreech    ya think ?06:50
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Dr_williswine solitare.exe06:51
Dr_willis:)06:51
DaSkreechI try to have a daily regiment yes06:51
intelikeynot me,  i used to,  but when i learned that i wasn't constructed for it, i gave it up   :)06:52
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intelikeyDaSkreech i do consider it entirely a different matter, the price one pays for "following bad advice"   but the cost of the advice is universal.      that's my perspective and i'll stick with it until it changes !06:54
intelikey:)06:54
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=== DaSkreech waits till you take some advive to upgrade to Vista Server
intelikeyDaSkreech did i mention i saw vesta one time?06:55
intelikeydidn't take long....06:55
mefucken hell to get CSS to work on wine is to hard06:56
mei dont even know what its talking about06:56
DaSkreech!nixter... Naaaw06:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nixter... naaaw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:56
DaSkreech!language | Me06:56
ubotuMe: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.06:56
DaSkreechCSS?06:56
intelikeysounds like you're trying to get ie to work in wine ???06:57
Dr_willis'walk befor one can run' :)06:57
mecounter strike source06:57
DaSkreechSteam?06:57
mei think so06:57
meyeah06:57
memaybe i need to learn more06:57
meabout kubuntu b4 i start doing that stuff ?06:57
DaSkreech#winehq might be more useful06:57
Dr_willisand using wine with Steam - can be QUITE a challange06:57
meyes06:57
Dr_willisYou got plenty of learning to do.. no time to be playing games. :)06:58
Dr_willisLearning is more fun.06:58
DaSkreechSteam is challenge on Windows :)06:58
Dr_willisSteam is one of the reasons i quit gaming on windows/pcs06:58
Dr_willisTheres several good shooter games for linux ,  depends on what ya like.06:58
meill have a look06:59
mei c you can get linux doom306:59
meas such06:59
Dr_willisall the id games have linux ports06:59
mefirst time ive used linux06:59
intelikeyme you could check out some of the opensource games in the repos might find that worth the waste of time06:59
meare they easy to install and play06:59
CS5You can get some really good games, try lightning and thunder.06:59
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Dr_willisThen theres the dozen of so Quake3 source spinoffs06:59
CS5It is an autopackage and very easy06:59
megive me a link06:59
nancyI have a wireless card with a marvel chipset.  Has anyone got this working without using that "ndiswrapper"   or whatever it's called?06:59
CS5beautiful 3d graphics06:59
medo i need to update my video drivers06:59
CS51 sec, i will "Google" it06:59
Dr_willisYou will want to get your nvidia/ati drivers set up first.07:00
intelikeyme if its in the "repos" all you do to install is opent the package manager and install it.07:00
CS5me, http://happypenguin.org/show?Thunder%26Lightning07:00
CS5the whole site is nice. Lots of great games.07:01
CS5h yes07:01
CS5You need the drivers setup fo sho07:01
DaSkreechAnd Unreal Tournament 2007 :)07:01
DaSkreechOr UT] I[07:01
CS5For ati the proprietary drivers work great. What card do you have, me?07:02
intelikeyi got board the other day (actualy had some time and nothing going on)  i wrote a script that would play five card stud with me,  in bash07:02
CS5Daskreech how is that Unreal Tournement?07:02
DaSkreechCS5: I'm sorry what are you asking?07:02
Dr_willisI still like good old RTCW:ET07:03
intelikeyi didn't try to figure out a way to make the computer "bluff"  that would take so doing...07:03
mehow do i download drivers for my nvidia card07:03
CS5How is Unreal Tournement 2007? have you tried it?07:03
Dr_willis!nvidia07:03
Dr_willis!startersguide07:03
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about startersguide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:03
DaSkreechCS5: Naw but they normally put out a demo so I can cry all night07:03
intelikey!botsnack07:03
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!07:03
CS5lol07:03
DaSkreech!botsmack07:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about botsmack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:03
CS5Ubotu is slow today07:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is slow today - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:03
DaSkreechGrrr07:03
CS5lol07:03
DaSkreech!anything07:04
ubotuSo, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.07:04
CS5!botsnack07:04
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DaSkreechgone back to bed07:04
intelikey!smart07:04
ubotusmart is another meta-package manager available for Ubuntu. It's quite stable, uses APT's repositories, can handle mirrors/multiple-connections, and is supposed to make Ubuntu BiArch-compatible. See http://labix.org/smart and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SmartPackageManager07:04
CS5!ubuntu biarch07:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu biarch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:04
DaSkreechI still can't believe that Jucato talks more than the bot07:04
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CS5!biarch07:04
ubotuA BiArch 64-bit system is one that comes with a complete 32-bit package system, as well. This means that you can run 32bit packages as well on your 64-bit install07:04
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CS5nice07:05
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CS5Anybody know if Halo runs well under wine?07:05
hitmanWillylol07:05
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intelikeyyeah i was shooting for that with the lappy  but ati mobo and no keyboard in 64bit07:05
Dr_willisTheres several WINE info sites out.07:06
intelikeyso it's a 32r full season07:06
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CS5TY, Dr_Willis07:06
DaSkreechCS5: http://winehq.org07:07
CS5there alreaady07:07
CS5the first one on google, ty though07:07
DaSkreechThere is like a http://appsdb.winehq.org or something like that07:07
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intelikeyi still like the old turn based stratigy games     anyone know a good one ?07:08
mehow do i log in as root user07:08
hitmanWillyintelikey: freeciv?07:08
intelikeyback some 40million years ago nentindo had   'conflict'  liked that  ok...07:09
intelikeyhitmanWilly i'll revisit freeciv  it seemed a little  bloated but maybe i didn't give it full attention07:09
mehow the fuck do i log in as root user07:10
intelikeyyou dont07:10
intelikeysudo -i07:10
CS5Me, you have to watch the language.07:10
mesorry07:10
CS5They will kick ya07:10
mei get fustrated07:10
CS5Np, just dont want to see ya banned over it07:10
CS5me too07:10
meim in display settings07:10
Scorpaenme sudo passwd root07:10
CS5I did it earlier myself not thinkin07:10
Scorpaenmake a password07:10
intelikeyme and a permenant ban will move your frustration out of our hearing...07:11
Scorpaenthen su -07:11
CS5Yes it will07:11
Scorpaentype in the new root password you just made07:11
intelikeyScorpaen sudo -i07:11
Scorpaenintelikey: what does that do?07:11
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hitmanWillyme: there's either sudo -i, sudo su, or sudo bash :)07:11
intelikeysame thing you are doing    gets him a root shell07:11
Scorpaenlisten to intelikey07:11
CS5Me, this is a great channel for us noobs, it would be in your best interest to stay here, as often as possible....lol07:11
Scorpaenthanks intelikey07:11
Scorpaengee i learn something new every day in here07:12
Scorpaen:D07:12
memmm07:12
CS5Me too07:12
CS5Dont even have to type just watch07:12
meso how do i set up my graphic drivers now07:12
mebecause i go into system settings07:12
Scorpaenme go to the system settings07:12
intelikey!nv07:12
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:12
Scorpaengo to admin mode07:12
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Scorpaenheh07:13
meit tells me to click the admin button07:13
CS5Just dont use ati big desktop if you are a multi monitor guy, you will lose your 3d07:13
mebut the button is locked07:13
intelikeyScorpaen go ahead you're doing fine with that one.07:13
Scorpaenme, i think that happened to me once07:13
Scorpaennot you, me07:13
Scorpaenwho is on first?07:13
Scorpaenerm.07:13
intelikey:)07:13
Scorpaenhehhe07:13
Scorpaeni can't remember. i think i just rebooted to fix it.07:13
Scorpaenintelikey: ?07:13
intelikey/me did that once07:13
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CS5He's on first07:14
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Scorpaenintelikey: i came from a Gentoo desktop.07:14
Scorpaen2004 i ditched xp and moved to Gentoo07:14
Scorpaenhad to learn the hard way. compile everything07:14
Scorpaennow i'm fat old and lazy07:14
Scorpaeni like kubuntu07:14
Scorpaen:D lol07:14
CS5OMG, I love Kubuntu07:14
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DaSkreechScorpaen: I'm not lazy!07:15
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CS5It is more simplistic and very nice.07:15
hitmanWillyScorpaen: im still running gentoo over here :)07:15
CS5But you learn more decompiling everything do you not?07:15
ScorpaenDaSkreech: i am07:15
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ScorpaenhitmanWilly: i am on my servers07:15
intelikeyScorpaen i came to linux in about 99 or 2000  i think   but that doesnt' mean i learned anything...07:15
Scorpaenintelikey: i had to have someone ssh in and install my first Gentoo07:15
Scorpaeni was LOST07:15
Scorpaencouldn't even RTFM07:15
Dr_willisi always install the 'resticted-manager' to install my video card drivers these days.07:16
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Dr_willisScorpaen,  :) thats the best way to isntall gentoo.. ssh over, while you read the html docs.07:16
ScorpaenDr_willis: yeah07:16
Scorpaeni agree07:16
Scorpaenthe liveDVD ain't purty yet07:16
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Scorpaeni dunno any of you folks yet07:16
hitmanWillyScorpaen: luckily, i had my laptop handy :)07:16
Scorpaeni seen intelikey here before07:17
intelikeyoh you should have seem me fight with slackware 4.0 and floppy install   the namanclature of devices was totally forign to me.   and no help     i mean all alone...  no help...07:17
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Scorpaenlet me introduce myself?07:17
Scorpaencause i'd like to be a regular here07:17
Scorpaen:)07:17
hitmanWillyintelikey: i feel ya, bro07:17
arrautzahi07:17
Scorpaeni'm 32, male, engaged07:17
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Scorpaenlive in south carolina, usa.07:17
arunAnyone here use KPDF?07:17
Scorpaenand i'm bipolar. right now i'm manic07:17
Scorpaenso if i talk to much tell me to shaddup07:17
Scorpaen:)07:17
arrautzacan anyone tell me a comand line tu jump from edgy to festy?07:18
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Dr_willis!update07:18
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)07:18
Scorpaenintelikey: lol07:18
Dr_willis!upgrade07:18
me2how do i close my other seasons07:18
me2sessions07:18
Scorpaenintelikey: i'm 100% serious dude07:18
Scorpaenor dudette07:18
Scorpaeni ain't lookin up your shorts or anything07:18
Scorpaen:P07:18
intelikeyi know     but i was too07:18
Dr_willisd00d07:18
intelikey:)07:18
hitmanWillyme2: on irc? /ghost07:19
koyotewhy is amarok not playing?07:19
Scorpaenhey how do i hide my host here?07:19
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hitmanWillyScorpaen: run through a proxy?07:19
arunFonts look really jagged in my PDFs if I open them using KPDF. Is there any way to fix this?07:19
Dr_willisScorpaen,  not much need for it.  the Freenode web site has info i think.07:19
ScorpaenhitmanWilly: nope07:19
me2scorpaen07:19
Scorpaeni'm authed to nickserv07:19
intelikeyyou can apply for a "mask" check the freenode page07:19
Scorpaenjust need the simply command07:19
me2how do i close a session07:19
Scorpaenah ok thanks intelikey07:19
koyote"audio output unavaulable: device busy"07:19
Scorpaeni came in from undernet07:19
koyoteI'm not using audio anywhere else....07:20
Dr_willisTheres really no need to worry about the hosts stuff07:20
intelikeyme /quit07:20
ScorpaenDr_willis: have you seen myh host?07:20
intelikeyme2 that is07:20
Scorpaenwhois me07:20
Scorpaeni got a ptr record on my home connection07:20
intelikeyoh my i see why07:20
Scorpaenyeap07:20
Scorpaenhi!07:20
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koyoteI used to know a patrick campbell! heh.07:21
Scorpaenjeebus07:21
koyoteuncommon name, not07:21
Scorpaenok07:21
Scorpaeni guess i'm safe07:21
Scorpaenwanna know why i did it?07:21
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Scorpaen:)07:21
Dr_willisNot THE patrickCampbell! :)07:21
koyoteseriously, what has amarok tied up here?07:21
Scorpaenit's to remind me that everything is being recorded07:21
koyoteI can't find anything and really don't want to reboot07:21
Dr_willisLook at my 'real name' :)07:21
Scorpaenkoyote: you using alsa?07:22
hitmanWillykoyote: apparently some other app has alsa tied up07:22
koyoteI'm using stock kubuntu. so alsa, probably07:22
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intelikeykoyote restart the sound server ?07:22
Scorpaenkoyote: gutys or ?07:22
Scorpaengutsy07:23
Scorpaensorry07:23
vbhidemy mic's not working07:23
arunanyone use kpdf here?07:23
hitmanWillyvbhide: is it unmuted?07:23
vbhideyes07:23
intelikeyvbhide is it selected as the input/record device ?07:23
vbhideyes... in kmix07:23
hitmanWillyvbhide: and its plugged in?07:24
vbhidei don't know how i do that in alsa07:24
vbhideyes07:24
koyoterestarting didn't help07:24
koyoteauto suspend?07:24
hitmanWillykoyote: did amarok crash previously?07:24
intelikeyvbhide would be    sudo alsamixer    i think07:24
vbhideok lemme try07:24
koyoteI don't think so, nor did kaffeine07:25
hitmanWillykoyote: just to be sure, close out amarok, then run killall amarokapp in a konsole07:25
CS5have you tried xmms?07:25
CS5I don't know why but my creative live would only play stuff after I installed it.07:26
koyoteweird, my sound system is restarting in a loop. 3rd time through07:26
hitmanWillykoyote: ive had amarok hang on me before...07:26
vbhidein the capture tab, only LR capture is written above my mic but no volume settings07:26
CS5For a short time, not over and over though HitManWilly?07:27
intelikeyup arrow key07:27
intelikeycursor keys07:27
intelikeyis that the proper name for the arrow keys ?07:27
CS5It is acceptable anyway07:27
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CS5We all knew what he meant when he said it didn't we?07:28
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CS5Lmao07:28
CS5You get good Bandwidth and stuff in a teepee?07:29
vbhideno... can't chanfe those letters above mic07:29
Scorpaentee pee = my computer07:29
intelikey2k down07:29
Scorpaenno windows07:29
Scorpaenno gates07:29
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ScorpaenApache inside!07:29
Scorpaen:D07:29
CS5Thats the way it should be.07:29
koyoteokay07:29
CS5Fu*& Bill and Microsoft.07:29
intelikeyScorpaen ah another tribe07:29
koyoterestarting sound and amarok seemst o have worked07:29
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koyotenice, now I'm macfrei07:30
CS5Macfrei?07:30
me2mmmm07:30
me2i got it working07:30
CS5Me2, lol07:30
Scorpaenich spreche kein deutsch. ??07:30
me2strange how it done that07:30
volnhello, how can I move trashcan in my kubuntu desktop?07:30
intelikeynighn07:30
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nancyShit,   I FINALLY find the drier for my wireless card...I go to run the install script and get,  " ./install.sh"   and I get this crap:    113: Syntax error: "(" unexpected07:31
Scorpaenvoln: unlock the icons?07:31
nancyWhat do I do now?   Cry?  Blow my brains out?07:31
volnyes07:31
Scorpaenwhoa07:31
Scorpaennancy: it ain't that bad!07:31
nancydrier= driver07:31
Scorpaennancy: deep breath07:31
Scorpaen..and edit the install.sh maybe?07:31
nancyI tried....but every "("  appears to be in the correct spot.07:32
nancyScorpaen:   I could send you the script if you think you could possibly find the misplaced  "("  ?07:32
koyoteyou may be missing a ) ?07:32
intelikeynancy edit the script and on the very first line   if it says    #!/bin/sh       make it    #!/bin/bash    and retry07:32
nancyI will try that now07:32
nancyintelikey:   be right back07:32
volnScorpaen, what next?07:32
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Scorpaenvoln: drag and drop it?07:33
intelikeykoyote looks like bashism to me   but it could be a missing  identifier   ;   maybe or even   do  or  fi     i'd have to look at the script.07:33
arunDoes anyone else see jagged fonts in kpdf?07:33
volnScorpaen, I can't07:34
intelikey!fonts | arun07:34
ubotuarun: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer07:34
koyoteI'm too used to elisp :)07:34
Scorpaenvoln: one sec07:34
volnScorpaen, no option to drag or move07:34
hitmanWillykoyote: one language ive never had any desire to learn :)07:34
koyoteit's a lot better than back in pre 19 days.07:35
mehow do i close a session07:35
mea kubuntu session07:35
Scorpaenvoln: i dont even have that icon07:35
Scorpaenlol07:35
intelikeyme exit07:35
intelikeyquit07:35
Scorpaeni lost it07:35
medo i type that in terminal07:35
volnScorpaen, on the bottom...07:36
Scorpaenahhhhh07:36
Scorpaenvoln:07:36
Scorpaenright click an empty area of the taskbar07:36
intelikeyno you use the mouse  me    the kmenu   logout07:36
Scorpaenvoln: then unclock it07:36
Scorpaenvoln: then you can drag them around07:36
Scorpaenthe icons that is, voln07:36
intelikeyme   one can  salute it    crtl+alt+backspace      but thats drastic07:36
hitmanWillyintelikey: i think he figured it out :)07:37
intelikeyyeah i saw that07:37
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arunintelikey: this doesn't seem to be an issue with the fonts, seems to be an issue with kpdf07:37
bionicmmm still didnt work07:37
bionicit didnt close down the other session07:37
intelikeyarun hmmm    test against xpdf  ?07:38
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hitmanWillyanyway, later all07:38
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|gandhii|When hitting the "build collection" button on Amarok, it seems to only let me choose a local directory..  how do I "map" a smb share to a "mount" point like I do when I mount a drive?07:38
intelikeybionic other session ?     kill  kdm    that should get it.07:38
arunah07:39
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arunjust tested against Evince.. fonts look great in Evince07:39
kristjan_I need a small favor - someone do "ifconfig" and see if "MTU" is same for "lo" and "eth0"07:39
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intelikeygandhii me too   but i'll keep stabbing until i see blood07:39
nancyintelikey:   THAT worked..changed from sh to bash!07:40
volnScorpaen, I unlock, but no option there07:40
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nancyintelikey:   tHANK YA THANK YOU07:40
gandhiihehehe07:40
intelikeynancy yeah i write a lot of shell scripts and i thought i recognized the error07:40
arunintelikey: why do fonts look bad on kpdf for me? any ideas?07:40
intelikeywelcome07:40
arunintelikey: i just tested with evince and fonts look great and smooth07:40
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intelikeyarun no   that's why i asked if you checked xpdf   to see if it rendered correctly07:41
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intelikeyarun there may be a bug/glitch in that version of kpdf   idk.07:41
arunah alright, thanks07:41
aruni didnt check with xpdf, i checked with evince.. downloading xpdf now07:42
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osirisubotu, > frostwire osiris07:42
intelikeynancy   you can mark that script as  "not fully posix compliant"    for the record.07:43
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osirisubotu, frostwire > osiris07:43
intelikeycheeper to say /msg ubotu blah   but hey that works too07:44
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bionicmate once i master linux07:45
bionicits going to be good07:45
arunwow, evince is pretty cool actually07:45
bionicbut its a bit daunting right now07:46
bionicbut still alot of fun07:46
bionicsearching through the magical world of this OS07:46
vbhideyes.... i agree biotic07:46
vbhide*bionic07:46
intelikeybionic true dat07:46
bionicwhere about do you guys live07:46
bionicim in australia07:47
vbhideis there a short cut for going to k menu?07:47
arunalt f107:47
intelikeywell belss my time.  howdy ausi   i'm across the pond from ya07:47
arunvbhide: alt + f107:47
vbhidethanks arun07:48
intelikeyjust don't add ctrl to that unless you know what a console is07:48
bionicdo you get many australians in here07:49
intelikeyyeah several actually07:49
bionicdo you think much money can be made on google adsense ?07:49
intelikeythe majority are from US but i've seen ips from just about country on the planet in here07:49
intelikeybionic i wouldn't know.07:50
bionichey u know this kate program07:50
bionicim download americas army07:50
bionicand it Kate popped up07:50
bionicwhy07:50
bionicwhat does it do07:50
bioniccd '/pub/filesnetwork/Americas_Army/Official_Releases/Full_Install'07:51
bionicme@me:~$ cd '/pub/filesnetwork/Americas_Army/Official_Releases/Full_Install'07:51
bionicbash: cd: /pub/filesnetwork/Americas_Army/Official_Releases/Full_Install: No such file or directory07:51
bionicme@me:~$07:51
intelikeykate is a editor/word processor07:51
bionicthats what its doing07:51
intelikeyin kate ???07:51
bionicyeah07:51
intelikeynot in konsole  ?07:51
bionicits just popped up on its own07:51
Daisuke_Idouh07:51
bionicoh07:52
bionicterminal07:52
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intelikeyyeah07:52
bionicyeah in kate but the terminal07:52
bionicdoes that mean there is something wrong07:52
bionicor is that normal07:52
Daisuke_Idoum, /pub/ tells me you're trying to use an ftp07:52
sx66does beryl work in kubuntu? I have not got it to work07:52
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bionicno its download from http07:52
Daisuke_Idobionic: "kate" and "terminal" are mutually exclusive07:53
intelikey!beryl | sx66 they tell me that it does,07:53
ubotusx66 they tell me that it does,: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects07:53
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Daisuke_Idoit does.  a tad unreliable though07:53
sx66intelikey: so, beryl does not work...?07:54
intelikeysx66 and seeing that they have a special channel for it   i'll just point you at it       #ubuntu-effects07:54
arunsx66: beryl is a bit faulty in kubuntu.. at least when i tried it.. it worked alright, but with beryl installed videos won't work in full screen07:54
sx66intelikey: so, that means, that beryl does not work?07:54
intelikeyDaisuke_Ido what chip ?07:54
Daisuke_Idonvidia 7600gs07:55
intelikeysx66 no that means that i don't personally know enough about it so support it.07:55
Daisuke_Idoit just seemed flaky, crashing randomly07:55
intelikeyDaisuke_Ido hmmm   k.07:55
Daisuke_Idowhen it worked, it was beautiful as a newborn baby being eaten by a lion, but when it didn't, it was as ugly as a lion being eaten by a newborn baby07:56
Daisuke_Idoand if you can't tell, i'm tired :(07:56
intelikeyso support/to support it07:56
intelikeyhmmm was that backwards    ????07:56
bionicwhat this katapault do07:56
intelikeyas beautiful as a little red wagon going up a steep hill07:57
intelikeybionic he launch thing ?07:57
intelikeyhim launch stuff !07:58
bionicdf07:58
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intelikeyalt+space_bar   konsole enter07:58
intelikeyhim throw  konsole at window07:59
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dotzcan anyone on kubuntu play videos from www.bbc.com ?08:01
dotzit says it require x-mplayer208:01
Daisuke_Idointelikey: that may have been backwards, i'm not sure08:01
dotzis it possible to play video from there/?08:02
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intelikeyDaisuke_Ido splain ?08:02
sx66when I select beryl manager for the windows it does not cross over08:02
bionicwhy doesnt my sound work08:03
Daisuke_Idosx66: you have to select beryl as the window manager08:03
intelikeyDaisuke_Ido oh   sorry,   i fell behind there.08:03
intelikeyyeah may have been backwards      seems like it...  :)08:03
sx66Daisuke_Ido: how do you do that? when I try to select beryl as the window manager it blinks the screen and reloads back to default08:03
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bionichow do you get your sound to work on this thing08:04
bionicits auto detected08:04
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intelikey!sound | bionic08:04
ubotubionic: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP308:04
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intelikey!botsnack08:05
Daisuke_Idosx66: what video card do you have?08:05
sx66intel, it works under xfce, gnome, but not kde...08:05
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!08:05
bionicits all checked and enabled08:05
sx66?08:06
intelikeysx66 one more time.  i'll have to jsut point you to the official channel for that    #ubuntu-effects08:06
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bionicwhy is everything so hard to get working this thing08:07
intelikeybionic you checked that trubleshooting link ?08:08
sx66intelikey: they do not know what is wrong08:08
bionicyes08:08
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bionictells me nothing08:08
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intelikeysx66 well i don't either,   but Daisuke_Ido has offered to help you with it.08:08
intelikey<Daisuke_Ido> sx66: what video card do you have?08:08
Daisuke_Idosx66: they know more than i do08:09
Daisuke_Idoi know exactly *jack* about getting it to work with an intel chipset08:09
sx66Daisuke_Ido: intel08:10
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intelikeybionic konsole command:   aplay -l08:12
nancyWhere can I turn off and completely DISABLE Kwallet?  Thank you08:13
jussi01nancy: are you sure thats what you want? its much easier just to have the password set to nothing and then it never prompts you08:14
ShockValueman, sometimes inspiration hits and you can make a really good mixed cd.. but sometimes it just dosent flow.. ya know?08:14
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nancyjussi01:   Yeah,  I want to disable it.  As I always have on every other installation.  Easy to find in a the stock kde settings...but this is different ad cannot find in kubuntu08:14
intelikeyand sometimes08:14
intelikeywhat was i going to say...08:15
intelikeynancy look in kcontrol08:15
nancyok08:15
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nancyawww...now that looks more familiar08:16
nancy:)08:16
intelikeystock kde settings = kcontrol08:16
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intelikeyif i do   chattr +i /etc   will that break boot up ?08:18
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nancyOh and another thing if I may...  I stuck in an old Ati 128 fury  video card.   (AGP)   What are the chances of getting ati's accelerated driver working on a card that old?  Do they even make anything?  (by accelerated,  I mean  Opengl...etc)  ?  Thank you.08:18
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bionicits an onboard sound card08:19
bionicac9708:19
intelikeynancy i don't know.  my nvidia is not supported   riva128 agp    so  i wouldn't count on it.08:19
bionici got it on auto detect08:19
intelikeybionic konsole command:   aplay -l        what's it say ?08:20
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bionic** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****08:20
bioniccard 0: V8237 [VIA 8237] , device 0: VIA 8237 [VIA 8237] 08:20
bionic  Subdevices: 3/408:20
bionic  Subdevice #0: subdevice #008:21
intelikeyok.08:21
nancyintelikey:   Well,  then there goes the groovy screensavers   :(08:21
bionic  Subdevice #1: subdevice #108:21
bionic  Subdevice #2: subdevice #208:21
bionic  Subdevice #3: subdevice #308:21
bioniccard 0: V8237 [VIA 8237] , device 1: VIA 8237 [VIA 8237] 08:21
bionic  Subdevices: 1/108:21
bionic  Subdevice #0: subdevice #008:21
intelikeynancy i don't me to discurage you from looking just don't be surprised if it's not supported.08:21
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intelikeybionic konsole;  sudo alsamixer08:22
nancyWell,  I went down the same road with Nvidia Geforce2 a few months back...and that didn't work due to age.  I would expect ati to be the same,  now that you mention it.08:22
intelikeycheck the volume settings for the pcm and master especally08:22
sx66what is better, kde, or xfce as in resources?08:22
bionicintelikey nothing :(08:22
intelikeybionic nothing ?08:23
bionicnothing at all08:23
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intelikeydidn't ask for apassword or nothing ?08:23
bionichold on08:23
bionicyeah it did08:23
nancyNext question if I may.  There is some kind of script or something I was reading about called,  "Automatix"  or something?  That will grab the harder to get codecs,   etc ??  Last time I tried it all fell apart badly.  Is there one made specifically for Kubuntu ?08:24
intelikey!automatix | nancy08:24
ubotunancy: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe08:24
bionicim an idiot08:25
nancyintelikey:   So I would just be better off grabbing the codecs,  etc....by "hand" then ?08:25
intelikey!WorksForMe | nancy08:25
ubotunancy: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.08:25
bionici feel like a real idiot08:25
bionici figured it out08:25
intelikey!codecs | nancy08:25
ubotunancy: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:25
utnubuksomebody please tell me that kword is automatically set up to do backups !!!!!08:25
intelikeybionic you're welcome     some times i have that affect on people...  :)08:26
utnubukjust lost a 22 pg paper thats due tomorrow08:26
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intelikeyutnubuk in the same dir   ls -A08:26
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utnubukplease somebody help me i need to find this thing08:26
intelikeyif it's there you'll see it.08:26
utnubukok thanks intelikey08:26
bionicoh no still not working08:26
utnubukah crap08:27
bionicarrrr08:27
bionicwtf08:27
bionici just changed my the jacks08:27
intelikeyutnubuk can you open the app and open the same file from it's menu08:27
bionicat the back of the computer08:28
bionicand its working08:28
bionicstrange08:28
bionicwindows used the other jack08:28
intelikeybionic if you look carefully at the hardware it's ptobably marked what each is....08:28
utnubukintelikey it was on a memory card, i took it to my dads mac to try to print it, and the file got corrupted somehow cuz i was being hasty at this late hour of the night .....08:28
intelikeyoh no08:29
utnubukintelikey, can i find it on the card's trash folder somehow? everything in there has funny characters08:29
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intelikeyif the file is corrupt finding it is only half the battle08:29
utnubukam i better off rewriting it or trying to recover?08:30
utnubukits long i have to start now if im gonna write it again08:30
gandhiiinteli:  i figured out how to mount to a samba share:    sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=yourusername,password=yourpassword //server/share /mnt/point08:30
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bionicexcellent sound working08:31
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intelikeyutnubuk replace "that/dir" in this line and run it...         for Q in `ls that/dir` ;do type $Q ;read -p 'this one ?  ' p ;[ "$p" = y ]  && cp $Q ~/recovered.file$Q ;done08:32
intelikeyutnubuk and if it doesn't show up, just start writing.08:33
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utnubukok thanks08:33
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intelikeythat string is interactive btw   ^08:34
utnubukdo i write '/media/disk/.Trash' ??08:34
intelikeyyep08:34
utnubukokok08:34
bionici just downloaded americas army08:34
intelikeyand if you find it hit y08:34
bionichow do i play it now08:35
intelikeybionic what is the file name ?08:35
bionici dont know08:35
bionicwhere would it download to08:35
utnubukit says 0. or 0: every time after the first few...08:36
intelikeyif you didn't use sudo or gksudo   look in your home dir08:36
utnubukim just going to start writing it thanks for the help anyway man08:36
utnubukok08:36
holycowutnubuk: sorry about that dude08:36
holycowjust so tha tyou know08:36
holycowoo has a feature to automatically save a backup copy08:36
bionicits just got desktop08:36
holycowyou should turn tha ton08:36
holycowits very helpfull08:36
holycowutnubuk: how did you end up loosing it?08:36
utnubuki was using kword cuz oo doesnt work on tribe 3...08:36
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intelikeyutnubuk haste makes waste,  and every hurry i get takes longer08:37
holycowyou opened the file from usb, started typing and then just pulled out the usb key?08:37
holycowif so don't do that08:37
holycowcopy file to desktop and work on it there08:37
utnubuki took the disk out, went to my dad's mac that had a disk in, switched them without doing safely remove, and it replaced my files with dcim folders ....08:37
holycowthen copy rfile back08:37
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holycowaha08:37
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holycowdid you have a copy of it on the other desktop?08:37
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utnubukyeah but not the finished product, i still have to do another 8 pgs or so... im gonna go make some coffee08:38
holycow:/ sorry to hear dude08:38
intelikeyyeah us all08:38
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intelikeypatti's back,     not irish are you ?08:39
intelikeypatrick campbell    that sounds irish to me08:40
Scorpaenscottish08:40
Scorpaen;)08:40
intelikeyoh close08:40
jtongcan someone help me with file permission problem?08:40
holycowlol08:40
holycowwars have been started over fewer words intelikey08:41
holycowi DARE you to go to glasgow and say that08:41
holycowhahaha08:41
intelikeyholycow and ended08:41
jtongchanged a file to belong under a group and changed permission to 77008:41
intelikeywhat that ireland is close to scottland ?08:41
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jtongbut user is still unable to access the file08:41
intelikeyjtong and the user is in the group ?08:42
holycowboth are highly nationalist and proud of their heritage ... saying they are close is like saying it's okay to be a newfie08:42
jtongyes08:42
holycow*giggle*08:42
jtongi did groups <username>08:42
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bionicis there good crack tools for linux08:43
holycowrofl08:43
holycowwhat the hell?08:43
intelikeywell any ridgid nationalism is  kinda forign to me08:43
holycowwhat are you talking about fool?08:43
holycowon linux everything is free, what the  hell are you talking about?08:43
jtongintelikey: is it because the system needs to read the group file somehow?08:43
bionicahhaha08:43
bionicim talking about cracking tools08:43
bionictools to break into the cia08:43
bionichahaha08:43
bionicjj guys08:43
holycowoh yes lots08:44
holycowlike08:44
holycowjust do08:44
jtongintelikey: i try to access it right after i added the user to the group08:44
holycowapt-get install crack_the_cia08:44
holycowand apt-get i-am-a-retard08:44
intelikeyjtong have to log out and back in for the group to be affective08:44
jtongoh right08:45
jtongi thought it reads it dynamically, i'm trying it now08:45
bionichahha08:45
holycowglad you have a sense of humour :)08:45
jtongintelikey: there is no command to update it so i dont have to log out?08:45
intelikeyjtong yeah  but i don't know it  off hand08:46
jtongok08:46
intelikeyhack dhs ?08:47
intelikeydo what ????08:48
intelikeyoh i see now.      duh.08:49
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intelikeyE: sense-common post installation script returns error code 255  incorrect ram type.08:50
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jussi01lol08:51
intelikey:)08:51
jussi01intelikey: its sense --common08:52
jussi01:P08:52
intelikeyE: apt: package sense --common not found.08:52
jussi01lol08:52
intelikeycommon sense seems to be and uncommon thing in #kubuntu08:53
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jussi01intelikey: true08:53
intelikeyhey i'm not all "one liners"  and monolog ya know.08:54
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jussi01intelikey: ok, got a question for you08:54
jussi01:P08:54
intelikeyshoot08:54
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intelikeynancy from tn is back   hello nancy08:55
intelikeytn is close to ky08:55
jussi01Im lazy, tell me where to change the font size in konq so it stays that way every start up. ctrl+mousewheel is good, but it doesnt stay....08:55
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nancyWell,  I managed to find the damn driver for the wireless...get's 3/4's of the way through the script and it bitches about not having kernel headers/sources.  And I KNOW I installed them.08:56
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jussi01lol08:56
jussi01poor nancy08:56
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intelikeyjussi01 possably ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/   i think the runtime config file in there will do that.   and there should be a way through  kcontrol  also.08:57
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intelikeyin kcontrol > look & feel > fonts     iirc   i don't have kde installed so i can't check that08:58
jussi01k08:59
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intelikeyjussi01   ^    and see i'm not all "one liners"  and monolog08:59
jussi01lol08:59
nancyI can't find Kwallet inside kcontrol.  Anyone know EXACTLY where it is ?08:59
intelikeyjust 99$09:00
intelikeyjust 99%09:00
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jussi01lol, intelikey what were you saying? you want to give me 99$ ?09:00
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intelikeynancy no.  but privacy and security   come to mind09:00
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scottyDoes kopete log chats, if so, where is that log?09:01
intelikeyjussi01 that's right,   and the bed is down the hall on the left   you are sleep walking again09:01
jussi01nancy: is there a reason you dont just kill kwallet and save your session?09:01
jussi01@now helsinki09:01
ubotuCurrent time in Europe/Helsinki: August 02 2007, 10:01:51 - Next meeting: Ubuntu Development Team in 12 hours 58 minutes09:01
jussi01intelikey: bit early for beds dont you thinK?09:02
intelikeythen wake up.    :)09:02
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jussi01lol09:02
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intelikeygive you $$ heh09:03
jussi01intelikey: why doesnt gnash actually do anything....?09:03
intelikeythat i don't konw09:03
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under2xhey what would you guys use to convert a bunch of ogg files to mp3?09:03
under2xlike some kind of batch converter?09:03
intelikeyogg2mp3  maybe ?09:03
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dotzi solved the gtp key error on fiesty by doing a apt-get upgrade first before apt-get update09:04
jussi01!info ogg2mp309:04
ubotuPackage ogg2mp3 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas09:04
jussi01hmmm09:04
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jussi01nah, they are all lame...09:05
TheNo1YetiIs there some trick to getting dual monitors working with KDE that I'm just missing?  Every time I try to use the monitor administration panel to set it up when I restart the X server it just crashes and I have to restore from a backup xorg.conf file09:05
scottyintelikey: Any idea how to make kopete log all chats? It looks like it only logged one line of one conversation in ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete/logs09:05
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crazy_busI got a new 1gb usb memory stick but for some reason konquror tells me it has 28gb's of binary text files on it for some reason.  So I was wondering how I could format it in kubuntu to get rid of them09:06
jussi01scotty: you need to enable logging in the kopete settings09:06
Agent_bobvorbis-tools09:06
scottyjussi01: Where is that setting? I can't seem to find it.09:06
under2x!info soundkonverter09:08
nancyjussi01:   Probably because Kopete insists I use it every time it starts and kcontrol shows it's still running.  However,  adept shows that it's not installed in the first place.   :(09:08
ubotusoundkonverter: KDE frontend to various audio converters. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 365 kB, installed size 1456 kB09:08
Agent_bobcrazy_bus carefull you aren't looking at an hd partition or something     scsi emulation making hda appear as sda    but formating   sudo mkfs.<type> /dev/<device>09:08
jussi01nancy: have you tried ctrl+esc and killing it, then saving the session?09:09
Agent_boband you may want   mtools   if you want to format vfat09:09
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crazy_busis vfat the default format type?09:10
Agent_bobjussi01 kill kicker ?09:10
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nancyjussi01:   Doesn't show it running there either09:10
Agent_bobcrazy_bus vfat is fat16/32  which is what it probably had09:10
jussi01Agent_bob: no, wallet09:10
jussi01nancy: weird09:10
bionici heard linux is good for hacking09:11
crazy_bushow do I use mtools as I need to make the format fat to work09:11
bionictype sudo -09:11
Agent_bobsure it is,  it's all open source so you can hack your whole system09:12
jussi01nancy: kcontrol -> security and privacy -> kwallet09:12
nancyjussi01:   Looking now09:12
bionicis there good kiddie script for linux09:12
Agent_bobbionic -i09:12
bionicbionic -i09:12
jussi01nancy there is an option there to turn it off09:12
Agent_bobbionic yes it's installed it's called  /etc/sudoers09:12
Agent_bobbionic it's sudo -i  not sudo -           like  su -09:13
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jussi01!sudo09:13
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.09:13
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Agent_bobor a root kit09:14
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Agent_bobis intelikey here ?     i'll hack him09:15
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jussi01!o4o | Agent_bob09:16
ubotuAgent_bob: Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic. It is asked that controversial topics: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.09:16
Agent_bobtake that.09:16
mike__Greets, everyone...09:16
mike__Does anyone know if there's a way to run apt-cdrom noninteractively?09:16
Agent_bobjussi01 and that applies how ?09:17
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Agent_bobjussi01 i'm sorry   i still missed it.       you do know i get all my warez at 127.0.0.1 dont you ?09:19
jussi01Agent_bob: never mind...09:19
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WhtWolfTeraDyneO_o;09:20
crazy_busis this the command I should use to format a usb disk to fat16 (which fat is more appopriate for a 1gb usb memory stick)sudo mkfs.vfat -F 16 -n instername /dev/sda109:20
intelikeycrazy_bus yeah   assuming it has a partition.   some dont   and it would lack that trailing "1"09:21
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crazy_busintelikey: I tried that but it says mkfs.vfat: Will not try to make filesystem on full-disk device '/dev/sda' (use -I if wanted)09:27
intelikeycrazy_bus yeah it will just add the switch09:28
intelikey(use -I if wanted)09:28
intelikeymkfs.vfat -I -F 16 -n instername /dev/sda09:28
intelikeysudo that of course09:28
intelikeysuper user do that of course09:29
crazy_bushow do I tell if it worked.  I pressed enter but nothing seemed to happen09:29
intelikeyno error means no error09:30
jussi01unix commands are like that, they only tell you when something goes wrong09:30
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intelikeyor the command is an information command09:31
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crazy_busso there's no way to tell when its finished formatting?09:32
intelikeywhen the command prompt is back it's done09:32
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intelikeyunless you added  &   then  you'll have to watch top  or something09:32
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intelikeytype   fg    or what ever09:33
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intelikeybut the format should have took about .8 seconds09:33
arunjussi01: what's up09:33
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jussi01arun: its evil, always takes so fecking long to down load, they need a better server...09:34
intelikeyall it would have done is write two new file allocation tables and exited.09:34
jussi01arun:09:35
jussi01 1800K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 72%  368.17 B/s09:35
jussi01 1850K .......... ....09:35
jussi01arun: look at the speed....09:35
arunouch09:35
jussi01and i have a fecking 10/10 connection09:35
intelikeylooks like some of my dl speeds09:35
intelikeyand i'm on dialup slowdem09:36
jussi01lol09:36
intelikeyin the tee pea09:36
jussi01hehhe09:36
WhtWolfTeraDyne... my laptop's CD drive has officially died. It'll spin up, but it won't read.09:36
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intelikeytake it out and put it back in ?      maybe the connector...09:37
intelikeydon't know if you do that hot or not tho09:38
intelikeyi never have09:38
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intelikeythat assumes removable drive bay09:38
WhtWolfTeraDyneintelikey: it's an integrated cd drive, so I can't get to the connector. I was already going to send it in for repair due to some screen flicker, so this will just be one more reason. Maybe they'll finally replace it...09:39
jussi01the sad thing is, there are bits where it looks like: 700K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 29%    1.12 MB/s09:39
intelikeyyah09:39
jussi01WhtWolfTeraDyne: what brand of lappy?09:39
WhtWolfTeraDynejussi01: eMachines M235209:39
jussi01k09:39
intelikeyjussi01 lots of throtteling  on the upstream end09:41
intelikeyi find that mostly on ta connections09:41
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testhey09:41
jussi01ta connections?09:42
intelikeytest09:42
jussi01hi test09:42
intelikeytransatlantic09:42
jussi01intelikey: oh09:42
testkubuntu is great thanks guys09:42
jussi01:)09:42
intelikeyyeah it's big09:43
testquestion09:43
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intelikeyoh you mean good  ok..09:43
testhow good does wine work these days09:43
test?09:43
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jussi01test: depends what for09:43
intelikeyvery well on what it works well on09:43
jussi01for somethings, perfectly, others...welll....09:43
intelikeystill several things that wont run in it09:43
testgames not state of the art09:43
jussi01test: what games?09:44
testrfactor09:44
testfalcon 4.009:44
testvice city09:44
intelikeyhttp://www.winehq.org09:44
dotz!image09:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about image - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:44
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intelikey!iso09:44
arunyay i just got my official feisty fawn cd... in less than two weeks at that. very cool09:44
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.09:44
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jussi01test: rfactor doesnt work no.09:45
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WhtWolfTeraDyneWhat package do I need for the debuging symbols in the KDE crash handler?09:46
intelikeykdelibs-dev is it ?    i'm not sure09:46
sdfWow, I've just had multiple kernel panics booting into kubuntu..,09:47
WhtWolfTeraDyneintelikey: I have that. Still nothing. Hmmm...09:47
WhtWolfTeraDyne!debug09:47
ubotuFor help debugging your program, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures09:47
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intelikeysdf kewl,   what's it panicing about ?   no root fs ?09:47
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WhtWolfTeraDyneThere it is. gdb09:47
intelikeymaybe09:48
runlevelten3 kernel panics in a row, I think it's hardware tbh.09:48
imslow3rlook at my question :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3120243#post312024309:48
runleveltenThe last one _really_ crapped out, which is a shame as I'd just started using kubuntu as my development platform (!)09:48
intelikeyrunlevelten sounds more like initramfs to me...  but hey what do i know a bout a kernel picnic09:48
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WhtWolfTeraDynewell, that wasn't it. I guess I'll keep searching.09:49
pagimslow3r, yup. just install new.db and it'll update09:49
pagdeb that is09:49
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intelikeyrunlevelten what were the panics about ?09:50
runleveltenintelikey: nothing, apparently :\09:50
imslow3rpag: ok I will try that09:51
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intelikeyno message with the panic ?    that's not much to go on09:51
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nancyOk folks...I managed to build my patch file to get my wireless working.  Please tell me how to proceed from here to patch the kernel please?  (feisty - kde 3.5.6)09:52
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testhmm none of my games will work properly09:56
runleveltenoops, there we go again, different operating system too.09:56
runleveltengreat.09:56
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boris_i know this is a stupid question, but how do i set wallpaper in kde ? (dapper)09:56
pagboris_, right click on desktop -> configure desktop09:57
intelikeyrunlevelten ok that's not boot time panics then ?09:57
runleveltennot only.09:57
boris_pag ty very much09:57
runleveltengreat. This is my dev machine too, and I'm on a wing and a prayer til my next work. woo! :(09:57
intelikeyok  i misunderstood you    yeah that's hardware then.    and probably thermal09:57
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intelikeyfind the hot spot09:58
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runleveltenI'm hoping it is. thermal I can fix09:58
sheldoncthe way stuff is mounted in /media/ ... im assuming that has something to do with udev rules or am i barking up the wrong tree?09:59
intelikeycould be drive  ram  cpu  of a connection on the board09:59
intelikeysheldonc udev rules apply to the way udev makes and removes device nodes in /dev10:00
intelikeyand inserts and removes kernel modules10:00
intelikeywhich apply to /dev/ as well10:00
sheldoncintelikey: so the way things are dynamically mounted within /media/ for external devices is defined where?10:00
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sheldonclike, if i edit my fstab10:01
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nzkCan I use KDE4 on Kubuntu?10:01
intelikeyfstab will make them more static than dynamic10:01
sheldoncintelikey: it wants an existing mount point, so i have to create a directory. but if i just shove in an external drive, it seems to create this mntpoint on the fly.10:01
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sheldoncnzk: yes, but it isn't useful unless you're interested in development10:02
nzkWell KDE3 is hideous10:02
sheldoncnzk: but mostly stable :)10:02
intelikeysheldonc right.   but the mountpoint matches the device   i.e.  /dev/sda1 mounted on /media/sda1     and i'm not sure what in kde is responcable for that10:03
sheldonchmmm10:03
testanyone know how I can get the kde classic windows decoration?10:03
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intelikeytest  kcontrol   themes  clasic10:04
testthanks10:04
intelikey!theme10:04
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy10:04
intelikey!changethemes10:04
ubotuTo change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.10:04
sheldoncintelikey: actually it's a bit weirder than that, where it creates /media/VOLUMENAME, so my external drive is like /dev/sdax but is mounted as /media/EXTFAT32 for example. in any case if i figure it out ill let you know10:04
intelikeysheldonc ok.   and btw   i think hald is involved so that might be a starting place10:05
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intelikeyhal = hardware abstraction layer   (daemon)10:06
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intelikey!ch10:07
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ubotuFor at f support til Ubuntu p Dansk bedes du venligst g til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal tales kun Engelsk.10:08
intelikey!hello world10:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hello world - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:08
nzkintelikey: STOP PLAYING WITH THE BOT.10:08
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intelikey!botsnack10:10
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!10:10
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dr_zhivago_29does anybody know why I can't install libgk+2.0?10:11
dr_zhivago_29or why amarok depends on it10:11
intelikey!info libgk+2.010:12
ubotuPackage libgk+2.0 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas10:12
intelikeyhmmm bot went to sleep...10:12
dr_zhivago_29i'm using gutsy and it breaks updates completly10:12
intelikey!info libgk+2.0 gutsy10:13
testintelikey:  I mean the real classic10:13
ubotuPackage libgk+2.0 does not exist in gutsy10:13
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testwithoout the chrome thing10:13
testthe kde from teh 90's10:13
intelikeytest did you see the ubotu post that followed ?10:13
intelikey!theme | test10:14
ubotutest: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy10:14
testyes10:14
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testbut I can't find how to get the old style10:14
testthe old style you see  in some preview tabs10:14
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intelikeyone could go in kcontrol > look and feel    and adjust everything there...  "build a theme that way"  i guess10:15
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testI tried10:16
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testit misses some stuff from the old gui10:16
intelikeythere was a theme for kde1 in there in hoary  did they remove it ?10:16
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intelikeythat's only what     two years    why would it change...10:17
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intelikeyeeeek.10:17
testhttp://cnlart.web.cern.ch/cnlart/237/Pr/kfm.gif10:18
testlike this10:18
intelikeythat just goes to show you.   never get rid of old software,  you may want to revisit it some day.10:18
testthat old theme was pretty10:19
testthe ones after that are mostly hideous10:19
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neusonceguys im trying to usedvd 9 to 5  but it says mkisofs is missing  wh i try ot edit the preferences  then  when i try to convert it say at the end conversion error help10:20
intelikeytest that looks like kde classic to me.  but this is dapper and you probably have feisty10:21
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intelikeyneusonce install mkisofs10:23
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intelikeyneusonce in da package management tool  find  then install mkisofs cdrecord10:23
neusonce how do i install mkisofs ? i looked for it on adept manager10:23
testyeah I have feisty but are you sure it is in dapper? since I tried kde some year ago and I couldn't find it either10:24
neusonce but to no avail10:24
intelikeythat's where it should be10:24
testintelikey:10:24
intelikey!find mkisofs10:24
ubotuFound: mkisofs10:24
runleveltenNow I have to wash up. Brain the size of a planet, and I still have to wash the coffee cups. Support plz.10:24
intelikey!info mkisofs10:24
ubotumkisofs: Dummy transition package for genisoimage. In component main, is optional. Version 9:1.1.2-1 (feisty), package size 0 kB, installed size 32 kB10:24
neusonce???10:25
pagtest, that theme looks like 'redmont'10:25
pagtest, maybe installing kdeartwork and kdeartwork-theme-window  will help?10:26
intelikeythere it is.    it's now a meta package and that looks like they are probably about to break things with that transition.10:26
intelikeybut oh well they'll fix them...10:27
testno it is not redmond10:28
testit is kde1 I think10:28
intelikeypag they do look a lot alike don't they10:29
neusonce serioulsy  i f***ing  love you guys,  no where in the real world to people help you with out a reason10:30
pagtest, looks like I have "KDE Classic" too from those packages... maybe it's what you're looking for?10:30
neusonce i heart u guys10:30
testkdeartwork and stuff?10:30
pagtest, yup10:31
testthe kde classic in default install is not the real classic that I mean10:31
intelikeytest oh  i may have just thought of part of what you were describing.   you can turn the affects all off and it helps a lot on the looks10:31
intelikeyneusonce what i do here i do out there  >>>------|>10:31
intelikeybut   welcome.10:31
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balinthiho, i need some help in xorg.conf10:32
testintelikey: I already tried that10:32
balinti'm using ati (fglrx) and i would like to connect my pc to TV10:32
pagtest, oh.. then maybe it's differet one..  they all look the same to mee tbh10:32
testI can't understand why they have to make kde2 look older than kde110:32
balint"ForceMonitors" "crt1,tv"10:33
balintnow i have screen on my tv10:33
balintbut i would like to change from NTSC to PAL10:33
balinthow can i do that?10:33
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balint"TvStandard" "PAL-G" is it good?10:34
krautmoin10:35
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intelikeycall just came in, i have to take the shotgun and maglight for a walk,  back in a bit,   maybe!10:35
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testah it is kalled kfm10:39
testcalled10:40
teston some blog people say it is teh most hideous thing10:40
testthey got no taste10:40
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testquartz comes pretty close too10:43
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testhmm no kfm is the kde file manager10:45
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imslow3rgrrrrrr.....10:47
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Lynoureimslow3r: do you need help with something?10:48
imslow3rnow i'm stuck with buggy 2.0.0.410:48
Lynoureimslow3r: as opposed to be being stuck with the previous, also buggy, mozilla?10:49
imslow3rthe swiftweasel maintainer is still doing 2.0.0.6 in pre release, so the right package isent there10:50
imslow3ri could go to 2.0.0.5 ... but why?10:50
imslow3rcus im a complainer10:51
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imslow3rswiftweasel32-2.0.0.5_nocona-32bit_ubuntu-AMD64.deb i want the 2.0.0.6 veriton of this package :_010:54
josef_guys im interested in themes that is made by beryl project how can i install it10:55
testok played around with the crystal theme and I have something acceptable now10:55
imslow3rits freaking cool, its a 64bit firefox with 32 bit dependencys and lybraries10:55
testI mean played around with window decoration10:56
testbtw does anyone know if I can use the winkey + E10:57
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testto open Konquer10:57
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TehLinuxN00BHello.10:58
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runleveltentest: if you want. set it in kcontrol as the shortcut11:07
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balinthi! I've connected my pc to TV successfully, but i have problem with videos. I can see only the video on my pc, and on tv there is a black rectagnle isntead of video. How can i fix it?11:19
balint"DesktopSetup" "clone" -- if i change to "mirror", then it's working, but my pc has a 50Hz or so11:20
balintI guess i should change TV to primary, and PC to secondary11:20
balintbut how can i do that in xorg.conf?11:20
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balintnobody can help in this problem? :S11:21
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imslow3rwhat kinda of video card do you have?11:31
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imslow3rpeople arn't paying attention its like relly early in the mourning :-011:32
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bauerwhere do i find a developer version off ubuntu ?11:37
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Lynoure!gutsy11:37
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+111:37
stolfhi11:38
Lynourehmm, I think some of those links might still take you to a download11:38
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baueris there an image to download anywhere with c++ and everythin installed ?11:39
stolfso, I was just wondering, is it common to have lots of problems and programs (parts of kde) start crashing after upgrading from edgy to feisty through a dist upgrade?11:40
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hangthedjstolf: just keep dist-upgrade (ing) and when that doesn't work just apt-get upgrade.11:46
hangthedjthats what i had to do.11:46
hangthedjevery time it fails, dist-upgrade again.11:46
hangthedjfor some reason, the upgrade is never smooth... i just upgraded a feisty ubuntu server to gutsy, and it took most the day.11:47
imslow3rtheres a proper && procedure on the ubuntu website somewhere about upgrades11:47
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hangthedji think it says, edit your sources.list, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, then sudo apt-get upgrade.  which really doesn't ever work.11:48
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hangthedjit will quit with errors, and then you have to reissue the command.11:49
mschiffdoes anybody know what displayconfig.py from kde-guidance needs to get available resoltuins correctly?11:49
stolfthe dist upgrade worked with out any errors11:50
stolfmy problem now is things like the kde powermanager segfault11:51
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imslow3rsomthing about force disable ACPI support?11:53
imslow3rin your boot file as an option, thats all i remember.11:54
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imslow3rit relly depends on what kind of computer you have, I'm guessing11:55
imslow3rmaby a fresh install would fix it11:55
stolfIts a laptop, so doing cpu scaleing and showing the battery usage is very much required11:57
imslow3ris it an intel or AMD laptop?11:57
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stolfIntel P411:57
stolfits about 4 years old11:58
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imslow3rwell I have herd, that intel hardware is going to do relly well with the new 2.6.23 kernel11:59
imslow3rits in pre release stages right now, they sey it adds like up to an hour to your battry life12:00
stolfIs that due to the new scheduler?12:00
imslow3rI don't think it matters what type of intel chip you have either12:00
imslow3rno, it has to do with a new open source intel program that tells you how much power each process is taking up12:01
stolfah, yes I have seen that12:01
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imslow3ri wish software development was quicker :-) ;p12:02
stolfheh, true12:02
MaTiAzI wish it was easier to do something useful :(12:03
stolfthats even more true12:03
stolfI wish that thing took as long as the first estimation. I hate things being more complicated than they seem12:04
MaTiAzyeah12:04
stolfbtw, do any of you know a lot about NFS?12:04
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stolfI am having some bizarre problems with it12:05
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MaTiAzHmm, maybe I should check out if I can translate some software :)12:05
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runleveltencan you do french to english? there's a video collection manager in the repos that I *think* is French only.12:06
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runleveltencheck it's not just packaging error before you work on it though, heh.12:07
MaTiAzrunlevelten: heh, nope, sorry, konwing only what je t'aime means won't help :)12:07
MaTiAzI was mainly thinking about English to Finnish :)12:07
runleveltentbh, most of it seemed obvious, but I'd not the time to do it12:07
MaTiAz:)12:08
runleveltenstolf: what sort of problems?12:08
MaTiAzhe's gone :D12:08
runleveltendoh12:08
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testwhy is there no default startmenu item for kcontrol?12:11
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imslow3rwhy do i touchabag?12:12
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phimichi all12:15
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zmaskenhm, I have a strange little problem, I can't boot the live CD regularly, because that gives me a kernel panic, but if I edit out the quiet boot it starts normally, its the same if I install it, but it won't boot regular, I have to start in recovery mode..?12:19
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imslow3rtry the alternate CD?12:21
nicolai_zmasken: do a memory check?12:21
imslow3rthe alternate CD is for people that the live CD dose not work12:21
zmaskennicolai_ its done, guess I could try the alternate CD12:21
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zmaskenbut I can get it to install by removing quiet boot12:22
zmaskenand when it is installed I have to go recovery mode to get it to start12:22
imslow3rbut dose it start?12:22
zmaskenelse it just freezes and flashes caps lock/scroll lock12:22
zmaskenthe live CD?12:22
imslow3ri mean after the install?12:22
zmaskenin recovery mode, not regular12:23
arash__so your Kubuntu isn't insatalled correctly?12:23
zmaskenI can't see why it should'nt be12:23
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arash__you have to go in recovery mode all the time to start a session?12:24
Assidheya12:24
zmaskenyeah12:24
imslow3rrecovery mode only has the most important services running, i gather everything els is not working?12:24
Assiderr.. would a geforce fx 5200 work well with beryl ? or do you think it would lag?12:24
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phimicis Kubuntu Gutsy ready for productive working?12:25
zmaskenimslow3r: everything else? I can only choose between my XP-boot and kubuntu regular and recovery12:25
zmaskenif I choose recovery I can start with startx12:25
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arash__phimic . from my little experience, You have to have a computer that is somewhat old to get the features working :p... Unless you want to configure a lot before you get things working.12:26
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zmaskenit feels like I could get it to but regular if I removed the quiet boot, as that's what I have to do to get the live CD starting, but I remove the quiet boot in GRUB but it still gives a black screen with caps-/scroll lock flashing12:28
zmaskenbut = boot12:29
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arash__Hi guys, when i press on the volume-adjust-keys on my keyboards, it says Kmix isn't running, but it does!12:32
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nicolai_arash__: Have you tried killing kmix and opening it again?12:35
arash__nicolai_ yea :(12:35
phimicarash__: thank u for answer, are u persian?12:35
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phimici have a 64bit platform but i read in forums that the x86 version should be better12:36
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ramii hate kde-su. when there are updatres availiable it prompts me for password everytime, same is everytime i open adeot-installation, any way to ignore?12:51
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kameronwoohoo! first beta of KDE 4.0 released :-)01:01
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pagkameron, do you have link to the announcement?01:01
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kameronpag, http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0-beta1.php01:02
pagty :)01:02
kameroni miss kde. i've been in the xfce world on this old laptop for too long.01:03
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MaTiAzI didn't like XFCE at all01:03
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bucki am back to the godz ..01:04
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buckcan i get a bit of assist01:04
buckplease01:04
pag!ask | buck01:04
ubotubuck: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:04
kameronMaTiAz, it's not super, but does a good job on old hardware. i'd prefer to use ICEWM but it's kinda old.01:04
buck^5 okay .. thank you .. well i am trying to install a style01:04
buckdomino ..01:04
kameronhttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php ..... kubuntu kde 4.0 packages are rolled out.01:04
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buckheres what it reads..01:05
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buckConfigure Style01:05
buck Domino (THIS THEME DEPENDS ON DOMINO.YOU HAVE TO INSTALL IT FIRST)01:05
buck Copy the scheme files(Domino_versionrc) located in the Style/Domino folder to /YOUR_HOME/.qt/ then01:05
buck    Go to KDE Control Center>Style01:05
buck    Choose Domino style then click configure next to it to bring up the domino configurator01:05
buck    Go to load/Save tab (You should be able to see six entries)01:05
buck     Choose any one of the schemes then press Load Config01:05
mrjonoI was advised to run memtest because I was having reocurring segmentation faults(core dumps), however memtest ran for 24 hours with no errors...does anyoneone have any other suggestions to what might be cause the problem?01:06
pagbuck, http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Domino+Kubuntu+package?content=5286401:06
mrjonocausing*01:06
kameronmrjono, what's the problem exactly?01:06
mrjonoi usually notice it with firefox01:07
mrjonoit just stops working01:07
pagmrjono, which kubuntu & kernel versions?01:07
mrjonoand if i try to load it in the terminal it gives me a segmentation fault (core dump)01:07
mrjonoi intalled kubuntu over ubuntu feisty fawn01:08
buck^4 so i huold be able to double click this and a way she gose01:08
mrjonoinstalled*01:08
mrjonoit's 7.04?01:08
kameronmrjono, have you tried updating firefox? there was an update yesterday i think.01:08
pagbuck, pretty much, yeah.01:08
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buckthank you .. you rock01:08
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buckhmm .. didnt install01:09
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pagbuck, any error msgs?01:10
mrjonokameron: it's not just firefox...it also happens to multimedia applications such as vlc, amarok, movie player01:10
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bucki typed kde-style-domino_0.4-1_i386.deb and nothing happened..01:10
kameronmrjono, what's your hardware setup/01:10
pag!deb | buck01:10
ubotubuck: deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)01:10
bucksays command not found..01:10
buck.. okay . will try that01:10
kameronbuck, dpkg -i xxx.deb01:10
buckduh .. thats what it is..01:10
MaTiAz:)01:10
bucki am very new to this01:10
bucki did get DOOM 3 installed01:11
buckvery nice01:11
kameronbuck, we're all new at some point.01:11
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bucknow i am customizing desktop01:11
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bucki am so impressed with Linux .01:11
MaTiAzbuck: Same here when I started using Kubuntu :)01:11
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buckdoes anyone know any good MIDI programs01:11
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pag!midi01:12
ubotuTrouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo01:12
buckthat i can connect my keyboard to01:12
mrjonokameron: Lanparty NF4, AMD 3800 X2, 2 gigs kingston ram, Radeon X850XT, Radeon X700, and 7 random hard drives01:12
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kameronmrjono,  :( makes my hardware look bad. we have the same board though.01:12
pagbuck, rosegarden4 maybe?  I'm not sure though...01:12
MaTiAzmrjono: Are you sure it's not overheating?01:12
buckokay .. thats what i found too ..01:12
mrjonokameron: i also have a raid controller and X-fi that are not currently in use01:12
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kameronmrjono, hmmmm.. i don't know what to tell you. you're on feisty?01:12
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buckbut no package installer .. for it .. but that part of learning ... hahhah .. i love it01:13
kameronmrjono, can you run firefox from terminal and pastebin the dump?01:13
mrjonokameron: i have a termaltake armour case with liquid colling...my processesor temps are fine01:13
mrjonoit just says "Segmentation Fault (core dump)"01:14
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tapsinselam01:14
kameronmrjono, ... hmm i'll look into that for you.01:14
mrjonois there a way to retreive more then that?01:14
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mrjonokameron: cool...it has me stumped...i'll bbl i have to go to work01:15
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meglenhello there01:15
kameronmrjono, alright i gotta sleep eventually but i'll send you a note later01:15
paghi meglen :)01:15
meglenwhat program do u suggest to type a picture. So that u don't basically draw but u type. Like this: http://frojnd.net/skull01:16
mrjonokameron: thanks bud01:16
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ryuho-tableti have a Tablet PC with 1.1GH CPU, 1GB of ram...  can it handle Kubuntu?01:16
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pagmeglen, any texteditor should work..01:17
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Linux_Galoreanother buy another day on Kubuntu01:17
Linux_Galores/buy/bug/01:17
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pagryuho-tablet, sure, easily :)01:17
Linux_Galoreactually Kubuntu Gutsy01:17
meglenpag: yes but I mean txt editor.. that's a lot of hand work.. Isn't there any program that converts what I draw into typing picture ?01:17
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ryuho-tabletreally now.. that's pretty cool.. I should look into what's the advantage of being kubuntu (i just installed ubuntu)01:18
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Linux_Galoreryuho-tablet: much of a muchness really, I prefer Kubuntu because I dont like the file manager in Gnome and Amarok works really well with my ipod01:20
kameronmrjono, firefox is a gtk thing if i remember.01:21
aldinis there some .pdf book for k/ubuntu? (handbook etc)01:21
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bastid_raZorLinux_Galore, install konquerer on Ubuntu.. also amarok on ubuntu01:21
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Linux_Galorebastid_raZor: yeah, but then there are lots of little things that are missing in Gnome, ie all the advanced little window toys01:23
TheRealInsaneCan anybody tell me what file to edit to edit the boot manager?01:23
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ryuho-tabletOh ya that reminds me01:23
ryuho-tabletI have 2 copies of the boot options01:23
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bastid_raZorinstall kubuntu-desktop? i have both ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop which is needed to run applications from both01:24
ryuho-tabletI think something went wrong during hibernating.. does anytong know01:24
ryuho-tablethow to fix my messed up boot options?01:24
TheRealInsaneMaybe you could try seeing if they're really there twice in the boot options config file01:24
ryuho-tablethow would i take a look at the boot config file?01:25
Linux_GaloreTheRealInsane: /boot//grub/menu.lst01:25
TheRealInsaneLemme see01:25
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Linux_Galoreryuho-tablet: ?? boot config file01:27
Linux_Galoreryuho-tablet:  grub->upstart->desktop01:28
ryuho-tabletwow i see copies01:28
ryuho-tabletI should probably delete one of them01:28
Linux_Galoreryuho-tablet: no they may be backups01:28
ryuho-tabletwell there's one for normal boot01:28
ryuho-tabletthen one for recovery01:28
ryuho-tablet...and theres a carbon copy of those two right after that01:29
stdinthat's normal01:29
Linux_Galorethats right01:29
Linux_Galoreryuho-tablet: normal01:29
pagryuho-tablet, are you sure they're not different kernel-versions?01:29
stdinryuho-tablet: make sure they are the SAME, look at the versions01:29
ryuho-tableti know.. im looking at everything, including boot options01:29
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ryuho-tabletoh wait01:30
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kristinahi, how can I watch .mht crap saved with ie7?01:31
ryuho-tabletlol you are right, initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic01:31
ryuho-tabletone is 15 and one is 1601:31
stdinkristina: if you want help with IE ask in ##windows01:31
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pagkristina, "kmhtconvert - mht to war file converter"01:31
ryuho-tabletso if kernel versions are different.. i should keep both just in case?01:32
pagryuho-tablet, yup.01:32
pagryuho-tablet, it's always good to have at least one older version just in case01:32
kameronryuho-tablet, ALWAYS. things go down hill at times.01:33
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TABASCOI have a problem with the Konqueror, I installed the WLAN driver of the Fritz!USB WLAN Stick today, and with the wireless connection Konqueror is not able to open HTTP pages. FTP workes fine and Firefox can open HTTP. I'm nearly sure, that it has anything to do with the proxy, but I have no idea what. Anyone an idea?01:34
ryuho-tabletwow my external keyboared just decided to not work01:34
pagTABASCO, might be the problem with the knetworkmanager... try disabling it01:34
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ryuho-tabletonboard key sucks01:35
TABASCOpag: Just close or remove?01:35
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stdinTABASCO: the KDE proxy settings are accessed in System Settings > Network Settings > Proxy01:35
ryuho-tabletonscreen**01:35
pagTABASCO, or if you use proxy you should configure it in kde too..01:35
TABASCOstdin: I know where to configure, but I have no idea how.01:35
TABASCOYOU ARE RIGHT!01:36
TABASCODamn01:36
TABASCOI'm so stupid01:36
TABASCOIt was the Knetworkmanager!01:36
TABASCOarrggh...01:36
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kristinapag: that worked, thank you very much01:37
Linux_Galorekristina: mht isnt a media file its just an all in one html archive file , just rename the file filename.eml and open it with firefox01:37
pagkristina, np :)01:37
ryuho-tabletdoes anyone know how to fix a wacom problem?01:37
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ryuho-tablet My right click (with pen) is registering on the computer as a middle click... how would i change that01:39
Linux_Galoreryuho-tablet: not to sound padentic , google.com/linux01:39
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TABASCOThank you, and bye01:39
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malik__i heard that compiz will be installed by default in kubuntu 7.10..................is it true?01:40
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Linux_Galoremalik__: nope01:40
stdinryuho-tablet: I don't use wacom, so I don't know. but take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WacomTroubleshooting and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom01:40
Linux_Galoremalik__: should be easy to activate though01:40
ryuho-tabletthanks :)01:41
malik__Linux_Galore: thats a bummer, that mean we still will need to tweak alot get it to work;(01:41
malik__Linux_Galore: i tried installing on 7.04 and all the windows boredr disappeared01:42
Linux_Galoremalik__: well there are two issues, 1. most people dont have the hardware grunt anyway 2. compiz-fussion only just recenlty meged01:42
Linux_Galoremarged*01:42
Linux_Galoremerged*01:42
Linux_Galoregrr01:42
malik__Linux_Galore: thats fair enuf i guess, one has to have hardware ......... which video card would you recommend?01:43
Linux_Galoremalik__: I actually got it working, super unstable for me01:43
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Linux_Galoremalik__:  new Intel stuff should work or nvidia gf 6200 or better01:44
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Linux_Galoresome people have gpt ati cards working but I always seem to get issues01:46
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Linux_Galoregot*01:46
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stdinATI make horrible drivers for Linux, it's just a fact you have to deal with (and bug them about)01:47
Linux_Galorestdin: Im thinking compiz-fussion and kde 4.1  will be about the right time01:48
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stdinLinux_Galore: you'll have to wait a while for kde 4.x in kubuntu yet (as default anyway)01:48
ryuho-tabletin xorg.conf, is there a specific line of code i can change to switch middle and right mouse button?01:49
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Linux_Galorestdin: I noticed kde4 stuff leaking into my install01:49
Linux_Galorestdin: on Gutsy01:49
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buckthat workd thanks agian guys,,01:49
bucksorry i didnt than you earlier ..01:49
amay.01:49
stdinLinux_Galore: yeah, but that's the alpha 2 packages01:49
buckthank01:49
buckjust was setting up desktop01:50
DragnslcrKDE4 beta should be available by the time 7.10 is released01:50
Linux_Galorestdin: the new login screen in Gutsy is a bit too gay for me01:50
pagDragnslcr, first beta got released today ;)01:50
stdinstill, there will be no KDE 4 desktop by default until at least 9.0401:50
DragnslcrThe version installed by default will still be KDE3 for a while01:50
amayomg wo bin ich hier gelandet :D01:50
Dragnslcrpag- really? sweet01:50
Linux_Galorestdin: ?? you mean 8.0401:50
DragnslcrI want to check it out01:51
TheRealInsaneWhat's the german kubuntu channel?01:51
pagDragnslcr, I've heard gutsy will have rc1 as installation option01:51
Linux_Galoreoops sorry 8.1001:51
pag!de | TheRealInsane01:51
ubotuTheRealInsane: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de01:51
stdinLinux_Galore: umm, 8.10 actually01:51
DragnslcrLinux_Galore- I think that 8.04 is an LTS version, so they're sticking with KDE301:51
TheRealInsaneamay: Les dir das durch01:51
DragnslcrOr so I've heard mentioned01:51
Dragnslcr(I know 8.04 is LTS)01:51
amaydanke01:51
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Linux_Galoreshame because by 8.04 kde stable 4.1 will be out01:52
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Dragnslcrpag- nice. I didn't know if there would be an RC in time or not. Not sure exactly what KDE4's schedule looks like right now01:52
stdinLinux_Galore: I'm sure there will be packages on kubuntu.org for us01:52
pagDragnslcr, http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule :)01:53
Dragnslcrpag- quick question, since you seem to know about it. If I install KDE4 (alpha2 or beta), and something goes wrong, will I be able to uninstall it and have KDE3 still work?01:53
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stdinDragnslcr: it's installed along side kde3x01:53
pagDragnslcr, probably... it doesn't touch kde3-stuff at all01:54
fdovingDragnslcr: yes. you can select at login-time, which version you want.01:54
DragnslcrNice01:54
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DragnslcrI'll probably check it out when beta1 hits the repository01:54
Linux_Galoreyeah, when you login you can select the kde4 desktop, I would use another user account though01:54
pagDragnslcr, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php ;)01:55
stdinyou *can* use the same account, KDE4 settings are separated from KDE3x01:55
DragnslcrYeah, I saw someone else mention that. I'll have to remember to clone my home directory01:55
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stdinDragnslcr: you don't have to01:56
Linux_Galorestdin: I know but I dont want to trash my admin home directory01:56
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Dragnslcrpag- bah, I just looked at kubuntu.org, and it isn't on the front page01:56
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Dragnslcrstdin- yeah, but extra backups never hurt01:56
Linux_Galoreanway Im going to read the news, Ive been so busy all day I havent seen anything yet01:57
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minusI was wondering if anyone knew the secret to getting the dell 6400/e1505 media buttons to work in k02:14
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Minatakuminus: Voodoo02:16
Minatakuj/k02:16
MinatakuI'm not sure02:16
MinatakuI'd ask ubotu but I don't know what to ask02:16
TheRealInsane!imwheel02:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about imwheel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:16
minus!dell02:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dell - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:16
Minataku!media02:16
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs02:16
MinatakuHm02:16
Minataku!keyboard02:16
ubotuTo find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts02:16
TheRealInsaneHmm. I found this internet site once where it explained how to use buttons 4,5,6,7 on the mouse02:17
TheRealInsaneBut I can't find it anymore..02:17
MinatakuThat's easy02:17
TheRealInsaneIt was some sort of !something search02:17
Dragnslcr!info imwheel02:17
TheRealInsane!search imwheel02:17
ubotuimwheel: program to support non-standard buttons on new mice. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0pre12-7 (feisty), package size 79 kB, installed size 268 kB02:17
ubotuFound:02:17
TheRealInsane!find imwheel02:18
ubotuFound: imwheel02:18
MinatakuHe wants media buttons02:18
MinatakuLike on a keyboard02:18
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minuswell02:18
minuson the front of the laptop i found the changes to make to xorg.conf02:19
minusbut now cant find them02:19
minusI literally gedited it02:19
TheRealInsaneI installed imwheel, started it, but now what?02:19
minuspasted and it worked02:19
TheRealInsaneI can't seem to access it's settings02:19
Dragnslcrhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto02:20
TheRealInsaneThat was the link I was searching for, thanks02:20
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luca__hi all02:38
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familiaokhi guys =)02:43
familiaoki got a problem02:44
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pag!ask | familiaok02:44
ubotufamiliaok: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:44
familiaoki've installed kubuntu 6402:44
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familiaokand i need to install the macromedia flash for firefox02:44
pag!flash64 | familiaok02:45
ubotufamiliaok: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava02:45
familiaokhum =)02:45
familiaoktks02:45
familiaoki'm gonna see02:45
familiaokand the rmvb... how do i install it?02:46
pagrmvb?02:46
familiaokreal media codecs02:47
TheRealInsane!rmvb6402:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rmvb64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:47
familiaokshit02:48
su-hoens`rZso i bought a mobo that said it had raid, but it has ata raid, not sata raid. So now i have 4 500gb hds with no raid... anyone have any suggestions for how to format the partition table?02:48
pagfamiliaok, looks like there are instructions for real player on that flash-site too02:49
pagfamiliaok, and please watch your language here.02:49
familiaokok02:49
familiaoki'm sorry02:49
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buckanyone kno how to instal the crystal windeco02:58
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pagbuck, it's installed by default iirc02:58
buckor the deb package location02:58
buckcool cool ..02:58
buckwhere is Kcontrol window at02:58
buckor module02:59
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pagbuck, alt+f2 and type: kcontrol02:59
pagif crystal isn't installed, then install it, package is kwin-style-crystal  (but as I said, I have a feeling it's there already)03:00
buckagain .. thank you so much ..03:00
buckif i havent thanked you already03:00
buckhow do i know if its here03:00
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pagbuck, kcontrol -> appearance -> window decorations -> crystal03:01
whyhankeebuck: in konsole type: sudo apt-get install kwin-style-crystal03:01
whyhankeeit will install it or tell you it's already installed03:01
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buckyep .. i am set on it03:02
buckright on pag .. you the man03:02
pagheh :) thanks03:02
su-hoens`rZis there a softraid option anywhere in the install process?03:02
pagsu-hoens`rZ, not in desktop-install afaik... maybe in alternate-cd?03:03
su-hoens`rZugh03:03
su-hoens`rZok03:03
su-hoens`rZthanks :>03:03
pagsu-hoens`rZ, I'm not sure... so don't thank me before you got it all working ;)03:03
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boris_hey people03:06
boris_i installed a theme in kde03:06
boris_but03:06
boris_taskbar and kmenu and such arent affected by it03:07
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BluesKajHiyas All :)03:08
pagboris_, could you be more specific.. what do you mean by 'theme' style or a colourscheme?03:08
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paghey BluesKaj :)03:08
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boris_colourscheme03:09
BluesKajhey pag :)03:09
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boris_pag : it's a colourcheme03:09
pagboris_, hmm.. try restarting kicker maybe? ( dcop kicker default restart )03:09
boris_aha ok03:09
boris_but for info03:10
afd_what's the name of ubuntu's restricted drivers manager? how do I call it (from command line)?03:10
boris_applications and desktop icons are black03:10
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pagafd_, restricted-manager iirc03:10
boris_pag its still not working03:10
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afd_pag: ah, didn't have it installed, that's why I couldn't find it. Thanks!03:11
pagboris_, hmm.. post a screenshot of the issue somewhere03:11
boris_where03:11
pagboris_, ie. http://imageshack.us03:12
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familiaoki got another question... is there any way of execute programs than needs of sudo's passwod?03:12
boris_ok03:12
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familiaoki want no password if it's possible03:12
mileswhy03:12
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pagfamiliaok, it's possible, but *highly* not reccomended03:12
wersat this point in time, is Gutsy more stable than Debian Unstable?03:13
milesdebian sid is mad crazy unstable03:13
milesu kno?03:13
BluesKajwers, not the place to ask03:13
buckhas anyone heard of a virtual world called THERE03:13
familiaokpag: ok ;\03:14
BluesKajal you'll get is opinions , not a consensus :(03:14
familiaokhow can i execute programs in boot time?03:14
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pagfamiliaok, trust me; in the end it's far easier to type password couple times a day, than dealing with issues that can be caused when disabling passwd03:15
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BluesKajbuck , google it03:15
pagfamiliaok, at the boot or at login?03:15
BluesKajfamiliaok, you'll get used to it03:16
familiaokpag, boot03:16
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familiaokbecause here i need by "ifconfig eth0 0.0.0.0"03:16
familiaokto connect my adsl03:16
familiaokand pppd executes in boot time03:17
familiaoki just need to execute ifconfig before "pon dsl-provider"03:17
BluesKajif you want the autologin , if something foes wrong with X you won't get back in due to the fact that you're locked out by the autologin ...it happened tome and it's not easy getting back03:17
boris_pag : http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3379/screenshotfr3.th.png03:18
boris_hope its ok03:18
pagboris_, post the link to the picture, not the thumbnail03:18
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boris_omg03:19
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boris_pag : http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotfr3.png03:20
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su-hoens`rZsigh03:20
boris_excuse me, im doing this first time03:20
pagboris_, but judging from that your problem is kicker's background rightclick on kicker -> configure panel -> appearance03:20
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paggenii, doesn't sound safe :)  I'd understand allowing only certain apps to be run without a password, but allowing *all* :O03:23
boris_how do i make it to match my colorscheme ?03:23
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boris_colorize to match desktop colorscheme03:23
boris_reght03:23
boris_right*03:23
boris_but it doesnt03:23
pagboris_, you can try that.. or just aplly a differet (darker) background03:23
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boris_that doedtn work03:24
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boris_do i have to restart kde maybe ?03:24
boris_wait a sec please03:24
msinghhi .. i think my laptop's display resolution isnt quite right. it seems blurry. any tips on getting it right?03:24
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Chousukemsingh: do you have an intel graphics chip?03:24
msinghChousuke, yes i do03:25
Chousukemsingh: there is a resolution tool for intel in the repos03:25
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Chousukemsingh: can't remember the game though03:25
geniipag: You can also use the Cmnd_Alias = <exact command here>   for specified users no passwd03:25
boris_it wont work !!!03:25
Chousukename*03:25
savetheWorldmsingh: try to find out what the native resolution of the lcd is.  You're trying to use finer resolution than its dots are naturally sized for. (or you have lousy fonts)03:25
pagboris_, apply that background: http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/1356/blackqh8.png03:25
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msinghsavetheWorld, ubuntu has it at 1200x800 ... im not sure what the native res is03:25
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pagboris_, for the kicker I mean.03:26
Chousukemsingh: it should be listed in whatever manual you have03:26
savetheWorldmsingh: 1200x800?  thats not typical hardware resolutiuon03:26
familiaokis there any graphic tool that connect on internet (by adsl) ?03:26
Chousukemsingh: you could also test different resolutions03:26
familiaokqt is preference03:26
savetheWorldmsingh: in fact thats not a typical resolution at all03:26
buckKDE 4.0 is out .. yes03:26
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msinghsavetheWorld, the screen is a 14.1" WXGA CyrstalBrrite LCD03:26
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runlevelten1280x960 perhaps?03:26
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ubuntuhey all03:27
boris_thank u very much, pag03:27
pagbuck, umm... no it's not. 1st beta is..03:27
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savetheWorldrunlevelten: yeah thats more normal03:27
bionichey03:27
buckahhh.. cool ..03:27
bionicremember me03:27
bionicnoob03:27
bionicim the noob03:27
buckso wait for it to become stable ..03:27
bionicnew to linux03:27
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bionicguess what03:27
savetheWorldbutr I dont know what WXGA typically supports yet. too new.03:27
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bionici just got steam working with fonts03:27
bionicFUCK OATh03:27
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buckSteam works in linux.. oh yeah03:27
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runlevelten!language03:28
bionicwoops sorry for the langauge03:28
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:28
bionic:(03:28
bionicjust so excited03:28
bionic:)03:28
runleveltensteam is fine in Linux.03:28
TheRealInsanebionic: You'll never be as noob as me03:28
buck... oh yeah03:28
Galleonhi all people :)03:28
TheRealInsaneIam2noob4u03:28
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msinghrunlevelten, should i modify the X configuration file?03:28
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runleveltenmsingh: I've just joined - what's the issue?03:29
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msinghrunlevelten, basically i've got a blurry display and i suspect it is because my screen hasn't been configured correctly03:30
milesmsingh wants to run steam on linux03:30
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runleveltenwell first things first, can you use krandrtray to adjust it to a res that's less uncomfortable for you to work with?03:31
runleveltenBlurry screens hurt eyes.03:31
msinghi have three options: 1024x768, 800x600 and 640x48003:32
bionicim the best linux hacker03:32
runleveltenright, whack it on 1024x768, and presumably the ick should stop for now.03:32
bionici got steam to work03:32
bionicfuck yeah03:32
bionicsorry03:32
bionici mean yeah !03:32
runlevelten!language | bionic03:32
ubotubionic: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:32
msinghok, let me try that.03:32
familiaokhey03:32
bionicdo i neeed to set my gfx drivers03:33
bionicive already went to system display03:33
familiaokanswer me, please03:33
bionicand put nviida in03:33
bionicis that all i need to do03:33
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CarinArrhey.. i have a smbfs mounted to my laptop. the router just had an episode and i lost my connection, am now connected back but i can't unmount/remount the samba share on the server, says "device busy". any one know how to fix it?03:33
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msinghrunlevel, ok, i think the problem is that it was using 1024x768 and not 1200x80003:34
msinghit's a wide screen thingy03:34
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savetheWorldmsingh: so it was already at 1024x768?03:36
savetheWorldand thats what looked fuzzy?03:36
msinghsavetheWorld, nod03:37
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msinghbut i cannot select 1200x800 from the utility03:37
geniiwho was asking about how to exclude packages from update?03:38
savetheWorldmsingh: so the 1200x800 is the native lcd resolution?03:38
geniiAnyhow something about it here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/4217803:38
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msinghsavetheWorld, that's what i suspect, yeah03:38
savetheWorldhmm.03:38
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msinghxorg.conf has it set at that too03:38
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msinghsorry, 1280x800 not 1200x80003:39
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msinghis there a way to query X for what the current resolution is?03:40
savetheWorldmsingh: i believe so but I cant remember what it is. :-(03:40
msinghive checked /var/log/xorg.0.log and it was set to that03:41
msinghbut......03:41
msinghthe virtual size is 1024x76803:41
msinghso that must be the problem..03:41
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yotuxHow can I change the resolution for the ussplash screen?03:47
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msinghwhats the best way to install intel drivers?03:49
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yotuxmsingh:  are they in the repos?03:50
msinghyotux, not sure03:50
yotuxmsingh:  The frist thing that I would do is check the repo.03:51
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yotuxmsingh:  I am assuming these are graphics drivers?03:51
bionicwhy has counter strike source stopped updating on 47 percent03:51
msinghyotux, yes. sorry. intel gma 95003:51
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yotuxmsingh:  forum link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30237403:54
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msinghyotux, i think it worked!03:56
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msinghthanks guys. installing the driver did the trick :)03:57
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msinghit's my sisters laptop.. she got it a few months ago. it was running vista and was so intolerably slow.. i tried installing XP but couldnt get XP drivers. And ubuntu just worked.. (except for the display) -- but that was easy to solve :D03:59
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harmentalhey guys..have you tried upgrading to kde 3.5.7?04:00
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sudeepany way to add "Computer" icon on desktop .. like on ubuntu04:02
BluesKajyup, harmental check  http://www.kde.org04:02
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harmentalBluesKaj: wow! 87 upgradeable packages....i have to try that....04:03
harmentalhere i goooo04:04
Ryuho-tabletlawl04:04
Ryuho-tabletwhat's the advantage of not using gentoo'04:04
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sudeepany way to add "Computer" icon on desktop .. like on ubuntu04:04
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BluesKajkde4 beta release today , yet it's called 3.9204:11
Soulwarp:o04:12
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rjbargh, the error message in my kernel log says i should try option irqpoll04:16
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rjbbut when i try that option the kernel won't even boot:(04:16
llutzrjb: that's why it says "try" not "use" ;)04:17
rjbok, except that without it my ethernet card doesn't work04:18
rjbthe driver seems to be bugging out04:18
Carnage\llutz: Very nice sarcastical answer! :)04:19
Carnage\s/al//04:19
rjbthat's what the error message i mentioned is about04:19
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llutzscnr04:20
rjbbottom line: no combination of options makes my eth0 work :(04:20
rjb(and that really sucks needless to say)04:20
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demarcsekhi all04:21
bbeckHello, I noticed that KDE4 Beta 1 was just released to Kubuntu backports, and I was wondering if I install it, do I just get another desktop option in KDM, or do I have to do something special to use it?04:21
demarcseki need some help...i use a Lenovo 3000 N100 laptop, but i could not find Linux driver for the integrated camera...04:22
Daisuke_Ido<Ryuho-tablet> what's the advantage of not using gentoo' <--- you don't lose many many hours out of your life compiling your entire system.04:22
demarcseki've searched it on the Lenovo's official site, but i could not find:(04:22
nicolai_rjb: what wireless card are you using?04:22
Ryuho-tablethm04:22
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demarcsekcan anybody help me?04:22
Ryuho-tabletwould i be able to ""upgrade"" from normal ubuntu to xubuntu04:22
rjbnicolai_: i do not have a problem with my wifi, it's working04:23
Ryuho-tableti mean kubuntu04:23
rjbit's the wired eth that's broken04:23
Daisuke_Idoit's not upgrading, just installing the extra packages04:23
Daisuke_Idoaptitude install kubuntu-desktop04:23
rjbbtw isn't it funny, to have working wifi but broken wired ethernet04:23
Insane`KDEOh lord. I NEED to play WoW!!! Aaaaah Attack of Linux!!04:24
rjbthe card is:04:24
nicolai_rjb: quite ironic, yes04:24
rjb00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet (rev 91)04:24
rjbaccording to lspci04:24
rjbneedless to say, it worked w/o a glitch in edgy04:24
Insane`KDESomebody help me. I can't get enough of Linux and it's uber-1337 awesomeness but I also can't live without Windows and it's Windows-only stuff04:24
nicolai_!ask | Insane`KDE04:25
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Dr_willis:)04:26
milespwn04:26
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=== Dr_willis is a level 10 tech support.
Dr_willis:)04:26
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mileshaha04:27
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Dr_willisI do have a LordOFtheRings Account. Aint played in a month+ however.04:27
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Dr_willisbut my brother is playing on my account.04:28
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micman!lamp04:28
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rajkumarvhi04:29
buckme again04:29
buckcall me stupid04:29
Soulwarpi used to play anarchy online a while back04:30
buckbut whats going on with MIDI04:30
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buckwhy cant i get midi playback04:30
Roeyhi all04:30
buckhow does one get the MIDI working?04:30
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Dr_willisyou could use some midi-emulaoitr that would convert the midi to wav04:31
Dr_willisI cant recall ever playing midi files under linux.04:31
Dr_willis!midi04:31
buck.. well .. its more than that .. i have a  e49 keyboard...04:31
rjbDr_willis: timidity is the word04:32
buckand rosegarden04:32
micmantell me how to connect web page and mysql04:32
rjbaptitude show timidity04:32
Dr_willisi would say  time to do some research on google. and the forums, and the linux music/audio web sites then.04:32
buckyeah.. but i want hardware midi not software . i am04:32
bucki am studying deep..04:32
milesspeaking backwards u r04:32
Dr_williswhat sound card do ya have?04:33
buckif i can get this working .. no more windows for me04:33
bucki have built in ..04:33
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Dr_willislaptop?04:33
dieff!de04:33
buckno .. nvidia chipset04:33
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Dr_willisMight be worth while to go buy a pci sound card. in fact that MIGHT be needed to get it working right.04:33
Dr_willisbut ive no personal experience with the nvidia sound card/sets or midi sutff.04:34
Dr_willisJust what i 'hear' in here.04:34
buckyeah .. will make a trip to fry's perhaps..04:34
bucksee what the forums say ..04:34
Dr_willisDont get a Creatiuve XiFi04:34
Dr_willisthey are lacking in linux support at this time04:34
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buck.. no ... i am not wealthy . i will see what the cheapest card is04:35
buckthat linux supports04:35
Dr_willischeapest might not work. ;)04:35
Dr_willisI got an Audigy2zs that i like.04:35
buckcool.. maybe i can get a low price live04:35
elite101ahh im having problems with my sound04:35
Dr_willisI dont recall any issues with the wifes cheaper SBlive24 either.04:35
Dr_willisIt was a  $25 card.04:35
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buckyeah ..04:35
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Dr_willisbut ive not tried the midiport/stuff on any of them04:36
buckwell midi is usb04:36
bucki have a usb keyboard04:36
elite101my card wont work in my computer i switched from a mobo with on board sound to one that doesnt got an old creative ISA slot card and it still shows the X on kmix04:36
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Daisuke_Idofinally broke down and ordered a smaller laptop than i had originally invisioned, just because it works with ubuntu :D04:36
bucki was surprised to see that linux picked it up04:36
Daisuke_Idoenvisioned*04:36
bucki was happy04:36
bucklike i said i will trash windows if i can get this working ..04:37
buckone less system without windows.. woot04:37
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elite101lol i did the same04:37
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elite101trash windows but rele it trashed me all my files once it crashed04:37
Dr_willismidi is usb?  my sound cards have that old style gamecontroler/midi conectors. :)04:37
Daisuke_Idoi felt i should support dell in their open-source pc campaign :)04:37
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Daisuke_Ido*real* midi is 15-pin :)04:38
elite101yeah i have midi04:38
Dr_willisDaisuke_Ido,  they expanded their  laptop-linux lineup last week dident they?04:38
buckreal midi is 5 pin\04:38
Daisuke_Idothey contracted it04:38
elite101yeah i have the *real* one with 1504:38
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Daisuke_Idothey did have the 1420N and the 1505N04:38
elite101my card is a 1997 Creative04:38
buckthats the Joystick Port04:38
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elite101lol04:38
Daisuke_Idowhen i went to order last night, there was no 1505N04:38
buckbut i have a usb cable04:39
Daisuke_Idobuck: it's also the midi port04:39
buckthat connects to my keyboard04:39
buckyeah .. but midi is only 5 of those pins04:39
elite101lol anyone of u see a serial-port mouse?04:39
Daisuke_Idoelite101: i have several04:39
Dr_willisDaisuke_Ido,  bummer.. but hmm.. i read just last week they were expanding the lineup. Perhaps it will take a few weeks to get it all fixed up..04:40
elite101serial port mouse is so old it doesnt even get supported in kubuntu 6.06.104:40
elite101i tried it even a micrsoft one doesnt wok04:40
elite101work*04:40
buckhttp://linuxrockstar.blogspot.com/04:40
elite101but i have usb/laser logitech04:40
Daisuke_IdoDr_willis: i'm thinking that since it was up a couple days ago, they may just be out of stock?  (wishful thinking probably)04:40
Daisuke_Idookay, naptime.  i was up too late last night and too early this morning04:40
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Dr_willisDaisuke_Ido,  i want a linux laptop in thoise fancy new colors!04:41
Dr_willis:) Hot Pink!04:41
elite101lol ferrari red04:41
elite101accer04:41
Dr_willisI figure if i got a Pink Laptop - no one would dare steal it! :)04:42
elite101man i wouldnt mind having a kit car of a Lamborghini Countach i love thoes cars the look of them04:42
elite101yeah04:42
elite101lol04:42
bucki guess i need to install soft synth . will try that ..04:43
olotocould somebody test with me gizmo04:44
olotowant to see how the quality is04:44
elite101what is AFAIK?04:44
elite101i see ppl say it alot but what does it mean?04:44
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Dr_willisAFAIK - it means As Far As I Know.04:45
Dr_willis:)04:45
elite101k04:45
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elite101and what about IMHO?04:45
elite101IMO?04:45
Dr_willisTheres a tool/program that has a lot of thoise anacronism init.04:45
MaTiAzelite101: In My (Humble) Opinion04:45
elite101k04:46
elite101well im going to try to install windows mesenger 7.5 using wine :P04:46
Dr_willistheres a lot of other IM clients out ya know. :)04:47
elite101yeah i know but they dont support msn games04:47
elite101whats the command so that adept isnt in read-only mode?04:47
Dr_willisoh the humanity of it all.....04:47
Dr_willis'games' FAH!04:47
Dr_willisBah! Humbug even.04:47
Dr_williswhat next.. you will want 'chatting' in your MMORPGS? :)04:48
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elite101lol not sure what that means?04:48
elite101lol i like the look of msn better i know there is IM clients but i only have 1.5gb left of space04:48
Dr_willisI doubt if the games will work  , doubt if MSmessenger will work with wine either.04:48
buckdamn time to install everquest204:48
elite101im using a 4.3gb harddrive my maxtor 60gb go fried by a magnet04:48
Dr_willis'only 1.5 gb' :)04:48
Dr_willis!im04:49
Dr_willisis the bot awake? poor bot.04:49
buck.. no your maxtor is a POS ...04:49
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buckand you should stick with better drives than that04:49
elite101and this harddrive is soo slow i mean like 2300rpm slow04:49
bucki am glad seagate bought em04:49
Dr_willis33 1/3 Rpm! :)04:49
buckjust hope they show maxtor how to build drives04:49
elite101lol i was going to pick up a 120gb or something or wait a 250gb @ staples for only 120$ WD04:50
Insane`KDEOnly 1.5 gb left?04:50
elite101yeah04:50
buckmaybe get rid of the plant altogether04:50
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Insane`KDELol04:50
Dr_willisThey got 500GB hd's on sale for $99 now a days04:50
MaTiAzyea04:50
elite101cool04:50
Insane`KDEMy friend has a total of 5 tB in 2-3 HDDs04:50
Dr_willis250gb for $120 is a bit outragous04:50
buckHitachi oh yeah04:50
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Insane`KDEWell, I got a 320 GB for around 100 04:50
Dr_williseven laptop hd;s are in the $1 a GB range04:50
Soulwarpwhy would anyone want that much space04:50
elite101by why would i need 500gb of space? porn/torrents/movies/music? i think i can only fit like 200gb at the most with stuff like that :P04:51
MaTiAzSoulwarp: Some people are "collectors"04:51
Dr_willisSoulwarp,  MythTV for one.04:51
Insane`KDEDownloads.....04:51
Dr_willisI got a large # of vmware os images also, and iso images04:51
Insane`KDEI only have 100 GB left04:51
bucki would love to have 8 750GB drives ..04:51
MaTiAzelite101: If you get crazy with torrents, like TV or Anime series, 500 gigs will get full pretty fast04:51
elite101who downloads 500GB OF USE FULL files?04:51
elite101lol04:51
elite101i dont watch anime?04:51
elite101its kinda dumb04:51
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Dr_willisI dont watch tv.. :)04:51
MaTiAzEspecially nowadays with HD material04:51
Insane`KDEThe Simpsons, season 1-16, 80 Gigs04:51
Soulwarplol04:51
MaTiAzelite101: It was just an example -_-04:51
elite101okay04:52
Dr_willisMame Rom Collection = about 20gb right now.04:52
buckshare the simpsons insane04:52
Insane`KDENo really, a friend of mine honestly has 5 TB HDD space04:52
elite101lol04:52
buckare the 16 seaons seeded04:52
elite101macs have 5-7tb04:52
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MaTiAzBut e.g. an episode of Lost, 720p, x264, AC3 is one gig04:52
Dr_willisi got perhaps 2tb total space on my lan.04:52
elite101wow04:52
MaTiAzSo if you're gonna get the whole 3 seasons in HD it's already like 70-80 gigs04:52
bucki have about that ..04:52
Soulwarpi have a total of 80 and i barely get over 1/404:52
Insane`KDEMy network's got maybe 2 tB too04:53
MaTiAzAnd long anime series like Naruto or Bleach take somewhat 20 gigs04:53
buckbut i want to create a big fileserver..04:53
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Insane`KDEMy brother downloads Anime/Music/Films/Books/everything around 24/704:53
buckwith 8 sata 750 drives04:53
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Insane`KDE750 drive?04:53
zborjoin fff04:53
Insane`KDELame04:53
Insane`KDEGet 2 tb drives04:53
elite101yeah 20gigs but u have 500gb who fills up a HDD with half a tera byte just for kubuntu?04:53
RoeyHI04:53
MaTiAzelite101: No one04:54
elite101lol04:54
elite101i would install all the programs04:54
MaTiAzInternet piracy benefits the HDD makers the most :D04:54
RoeyI'm trying to load Kubuntu on this Dell Vostro 1700, but X just gives me a blank screen and I can't even switch back to the console terminal from it.04:54
elite101all 18,444 off them04:54
elite101:P04:54
elite101just to have them all04:54
Insane`KDEMaTiAz: So true..04:54
RoeyI have nvidia-glx-new and linux-restricted-drivers-2.65.20-16-lowlatency packages installed.04:54
elite101i would install everything there was to kubuntu04:54
elite101if i had 500gb04:54
RoeyI would instlal kubuntu04:55
Insane`KDERoey: Can you switch to console aith Alt +F1?04:55
RoeyInsane`KDE:  no I cannot04:55
elite101when someone suggest a program i wouldnt even hhave to download it04:55
Insane`KDENo idea.. I'm a kUbuntunub04:55
RoeyI'm using both the kernel's (nvidia proprietary) 0.9xxxx nvidia module as well as the nvidia-glx-new X driver.04:55
Roeyok04:55
RoeyInsane`KDE:  thansk anyuway04:55
buckhere hows this for a HD .. quantum fireball lct20 4400 rpm04:56
buckits flippin quiet as all hell04:56
Insane`KDEelite101 How much space do all those programs have total?04:56
buckthats what i am running this box on04:56
elite101lol not sure04:56
Insane`KDEEverybody /join #Xtream_HDD04:56
elite101okay04:56
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pagumh? when he was asked for the factoid?05:15
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apecatanybody happen to know the names of kernelmodules that *ubuntu autoloads at every boot if the install is done with a logitech wireless usb keyboard?05:15
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apecati need to blacklist it, a normal ps/2 keyboard won't work now05:15
Insane`KDEelite101: EVIL!!!05:16
apecati'm booted with a live cd atm05:16
elite101lol05:16
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Insane`KDEI couldn't talk05:16
elite101i banned my self roo05:16
Insane`KDEYou banned me :O05:16
elite101too*05:16
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elite101all of us lol05:16
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Insane`KDENot me05:17
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Insane`KDENow I'm op :P05:17
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chihhi05:26
bobesponjahey05:26
bobesponjawhich backport mirror has 3.92? I tried fr. uk. and .com05:27
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lontraif i hook up an external monitor can i configure using the display option in system settings?05:27
lontraor will i need to edit X05:28
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pagbobesponja, 3.92 of what?05:28
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bobesponjapag: kde http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php05:29
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pagbobesponja, and btw: there's reason why they're called mirrors - they're pretty much identical as soon as they're updated05:29
hector__Hello05:29
bobesponjapag: thanx I know what a mirror is05:30
hector__hoolaaaa05:30
pagbobesponja, that announcement hasn't even reached the frontpage - I'd guess it's just a templetate05:31
bobesponjapag: it's on kde.org05:31
bobesponjapag: http://www.kde.org/info/3.92.php05:31
pagbobesponja, kde.org doesn't have kubuntu packages ;)05:31
bobesponjapag: the link is on kde.org05:32
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pagbobesponja, try asking dev's... I'd guess most mirrors will only update tomorrow05:33
lontrasweet beta1 :)05:34
hector__how can I conect my SE k300 on Kubuntu?05:35
Dr_willisand a SE k300  is a?05:35
hector__Sony Ericsson k300 is a cellphone05:36
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rjbhector__: if it has bluetooth, that should work fine05:37
bobesponjalontra: did find a mirror? :)05:38
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hector__someone can help me?05:38
TheFuzzballHi, I am a bit of a n00b in the area of Testing so can anyone tell me exactly how to get KDE 4 Beta 1 running on Ubuntu?05:38
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Dr_willisNot even sure theres testable packages out yet for if05:39
Dr_willisit.05:39
TheFuzzballThey came out today05:39
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bobesponjaTheFuzzball: for now you'd have to wait cause kubuntu mirrors still don't have the packages as of yet05:39
nosrednaekimKDE4? yeah, they are in fiesty backports05:39
TheFuzzballI have downloaded it05:40
TheFuzzballI just don't know how to use it05:40
rjbhector__: bluetooth-connecting my k700i works great, except for dial-up networking05:40
bobesponjaTheFuzzball: how did you download it?05:40
TheFuzzballbobesponja, apt-get05:40
nosrednaekimhttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php05:40
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rjbbut DUN requires a special software from SE even on windows, and doesn't work too great05:41
bobesponjaTheFuzzball: try apt-cache policy kde4base if it says 3.91 you installed alpha205:41
bobesponjaTheFuzzball: not beta 105:41
TheFuzzballI know I have KDE 4 Beta 1, I just don't know how to run it in KDE05:42
TheFuzzballKDM*05:42
fdovingTheFuzzball: the announcement says what to do.05:42
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bobesponjaTheFuzzball: ok, could you tell me what mirror did you use to install kde 4 Beta 1 cause I couldn't find any05:43
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TheFuzzballit tells me to put some "export" lines in startkde05:43
TheFuzzballbut I don't even know where to put them nor what they are05:43
bobesponjaTheFuzzball: I don't think you have beta1 you must have alpha205:43
TheFuzzballbobesponja, I am using Gutsy, but they should be in Feisty backports05:43
fdovingTheFuzzball: the announcement explains that.05:43
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bobesponjaTheFuzzball: ok gutsy, that might explain it then :)05:44
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hector__hi! how can i conect a sony ericsson k300 on kubuntu and transfer files?05:44
TheFuzzballfdoving, that is what I'm saying I don't understand what it means, can you give me a simpler, step-by -step guide?05:44
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TheFuzzballI reckon it's identical to KDE 4 Alpha 2s one, I couldn't get that working either05:45
pagTheFuzzball, sudo cp /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop && sudo nano /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop05:45
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pagTheFuzzball, then make the changes you are told to and save the file05:46
fdovingTheFuzzball: first copy  /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop to /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop, edit the Name entry in kde4.desktop to be called "KDE 4", put the three export lines at the top of /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde and start a new session in KDM with KDE 4. the three lines are the ones at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php05:46
rjbhector__: scroll up, you weren't paying attention05:46
mikkaeli just tried that, without sucess :/05:46
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TheFuzzballfdoving, Am I supposed to put the lines before or after the Bash decloration?05:47
fdovingTheFuzzball: after.05:47
TheFuzzballfdoving, directly?05:47
fdovingTheFuzzball: before: # When the X server dies we get a HUP signal from xinit. We must ignore it05:48
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TheFuzzballfdoving, thanks05:48
Knight_LordHow can I import messages in kmail?05:49
TheFuzzballI'll test it now05:49
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pagKnight_Lord, how about "File -> Import Messages" ? :)05:50
TheFuzzballfdoving, nope, It just kills X and comes up with KDM after I tell it to use KDE 405:50
Knight_Lordpag its disabled in the menu05:51
fdovingTheFuzzball: ok, then you have some other problem i guess.05:51
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pagKnight_Lord, :O dunno then..05:51
Knight_Lordpag i just don't know why it's disabled05:51
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pagKnight_Lord, have you configured any accounts to kmail yet?05:52
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Knight_Lordpag, yes one05:52
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pagKnight_Lord, ok.. them I'm out of ideas. sorry05:53
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jhutchinsKnight_Lord: Give me thirty minutes or so and I'll be back with you on that one.05:54
Knight_Lordjhutchins thanks05:55
BluesKajwonder kde4beta  is gonna be easier to install than the alpha was ... never did figure out how to make it work...beyond my scope i guess06:07
TheFuzzballright, When I run startkde in a terminal I get this error ".: 85; Can't open /home/.kde4/shar/config/startupconfig" does anyone else have this problem?06:07
fdovingTheFuzzball: you can try to also add 'export KDEHOME=~/.kde4' in the same file.06:07
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TheFuzzballfdoving, it's obviously using .kde4 as home cause the directory exists and it has a problem with one of the files in it06:07
buckwell now ..06:07
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RiddellTheFuzzball: it shouldn't be using /home/.kde that's missing the user directory06:07
buckanyone have tips on how to get midi working06:07
TheFuzzballRiddell, I am the only user on my computer so I made /home my home directory06:07
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Riddellmm, right06:07
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RiddellTheFuzzball: what happens if you start a kde 4 application from within a terminal in kde 3?06:07
pag!midi | buck06:07
ubotubuck: Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo06:07
Riddellwith the environement variables set06:07
TheFuzzballRiddell, "KDE seems to be already running on this display."06:07
RiddellTheFuzzball: what application did you start?06:07
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BluesKaj!kde406:07
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at <http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule>. Alpha 2 packages can be found at <http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha2.php>.06:07
TheFuzzballRiddell, sudo /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde06:07
TheFuzzballRiddell, I got it working now anyway06:07
RiddellTheFuzzball: what did you change?06:07
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Insane`KDE!tell me about foo06:07
TheFuzzballRiddell, I used fdoving's advise with the extra export line06:07
Riddellhrm06:07
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Riddellthat really shouldn't change anything06:07
Riddellbut I guess it does06:07
Riddellwonder why06:07
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TheFuzzballRiddell, I thought that too :)06:08
Insane`KDE!foo | me06:08
ubotume: foo is bar06:08
Insane`KDE!foo > me06:09
RiddellInsane`KDE: don't spam06:10
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Insane`KDERiddell: Just testing06:11
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killborgkidHey does anyone know a beryl server?06:12
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nicolai_killborgkid: I cannot vouch for the validity, but this came up in a Google-quicksearch: http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/dists/edgy/beryl-svn/06:14
killborgkidok thank you06:14
RiddellTheFuzzball: are you on gutsy or feisty?06:15
elite101hey i was wondering on how to make it so Adept isnt in read-only mode? i have no other prosses that are using adept?06:15
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jarredhello, anyone around?06:16
elite101hey i was wondering on how to make it so Adept isnt in read-only mode? i have no other prosses that are using adept?06:16
nicolai_killborgkid: This might be more secure :P     http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/06:16
TheFuzzballRiddell, Gutsyu06:16
TheFuzzballRiddell, minus the u :)06:17
nicolai_!aptfix `elite10106:17
killborgkidok06:17
Dr_willisreadonly mode?06:17
elite101yeah06:17
Knight_Lordjhutchins thanks for the help but i already solved it updating my KDE06:17
elite101i cant do anything06:17
elite101just read what i have installed06:17
Dr_willisrun it with root permissions?06:17
nicolai_!aptfix | elite10106:17
ubotuelite101: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 06:17
elite101how? there is a line to fix it06:17
Dr_willisor did it ask for the root password?06:17
elite101thanks06:17
elite101nicolai_, thanks06:17
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killborgkiddoes anyone have the ubuntu server for irc06:18
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killborgkidnevermind06:19
Soulwarpyou mean channel? /join #ubuntu06:19
Dr_williskillborgkid,  huh? This is freenode. its the 'official' irc server for the ubuntu support channels. :)06:19
killborgkidi found it06:19
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elite101no freenode is for ##windows too06:19
elite101and other channels06:19
Dr_willisi never said it waswent for windows or other channels...06:19
killborgkidno i was looking for the beryl one but i got it06:20
nicolai_Just out of curiosity, would there be any difference between saying "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock" and "sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock"06:20
Dr_willisthis is the official one USED by the ubuntu guys..06:20
killborgkidthanks for all of the help06:20
BluesKajwell, i followed the instructions for kde 4 beta to the letter as far as i can figure , but no sign of it coming up in login after areboot06:20
Soulwarpdid you enable it?06:20
Insane`KDEOr you could run your own server and wait for that 0.0.......01% chance that somebody enters it and can answer your question..06:21
BluesKajKDE 4 is too beta for me i guess :)06:21
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BluesKajSoulwarp, err enable ...where are the "enable" instructrions ?06:22
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nicolai_BluesKaj: you could always try the Suse live cd:   http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/06:23
Dr_willisproberly the safest  way to test kde4 :)06:23
Insane`KDEdoes anybody here have experience using vmware?06:23
Dr_willislots of us do. :)06:23
Dr_willisi use vmware-server all the time06:23
elite101well i gtg take a shower and stuff and go outside, you know there is a whole other world out there yah know :P instead of getting a CRT burn why not go to the beach :P06:24
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SoulwarpBluesKaj not sure ;p06:24
elite101adn get a sun burn:P06:24
nicolai_elite101: because it has been raining for 1 months06:24
Insane`KDEDr_willis Can I use vmware to emulate an existing windows install or do I have to install it fresh?06:24
elite101lol06:24
elite101well its a nice day to day supposed to be the hotest too06:25
Insane`KDEelite101: 'cause I got a TFT06:25
elite101in all of ontario06:25
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elite101TFT?06:25
elite101whats a tft?06:25
Dr_willisInsane`KDE,  you COULD use it to run an existing install.. but windows will see it as if its been moved to a totally new machine and will want to reactivate, and isntall sll sorts of other drivers.. THEN if you put it back to normal.. it will then want to activate again.. and then reinstall the old drivers back06:25
BluesKajwas hotter yesterday , elite10106:25
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Dr_willisInsane`KDE,  unless of course you are refering to windows95/98/me06:25
jhutchinsKnight_Lord: Good, glad you got it sorted.06:25
Dr_willisgettting vmware to run an os on a physical hard drive. takes a littel work also.06:26
SkeetSo how is everyone today06:26
Insane`KDEOh06:26
Insane`KDESo, if I have vmware, and I have an iso of my vista install disk06:26
Insane`KDEI can emulate that?06:26
jhutchinsInsane`KDE: There is a #vmware channel.06:26
Dr_willisvista under vmware - is a scary idea06:26
Insane`KDEjhutchins: thanks. Right xD06:27
Soulwarp:o06:27
Dr_willisyou could boot vmware, and have it load/boot the iso image file. and isntall vista..06:27
Dr_willisbut if you activate vista... well.....  your real vista install may stop working06:27
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Insane`KDEI don't have a real vista install06:28
Insane`KDENot yet06:28
Insane`KDEJust the iso06:28
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Dr_williswell if you activate it on the vmware install.. then you WONT be able to install it on a real machine with the serial ##06:28
Soulwarpif i had vista cd i would use it for my coffee as a coaster 8)06:28
Dr_willisor at least ya will have some issues when you do try to activate it06:28
Dr_willisI have no idea of what issues vista under vmware may have.06:29
Dr_willisI use Win98 for my vmware/windows needs06:29
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Insane`KDEJust under you and me, uh, it's preactivated06:30
geniiDr_willis: When i tried same Vista on 2nd box it said to uninstall from the other one first06:30
Insane`KDEIt's preactivated and cracked06:30
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rotilkala nihta !06:31
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nicolai_Insane`KDE: The Vista police will get you now :o06:31
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WhtWolfTeradyneOk, I've got a major problem. I did a "sudo apt-get upgrade", and ran into an error.06:33
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Insane`KDEWhtWolfTeradyne: What error?06:34
WhtWolfTeradyneWhenever it tries to install ttf-opensymbol, it gives a "failed to write cache" error for all the font packs.06:34
WhtWolfTeradynesorry it took so long. I hase to check again.06:34
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WhtWolfTeradynes/hase/had06:35
WhtWolfTeradyneI'm in major trouble if I don't get my laptop up, as I'm going on a trip tomorrow, and this laptop will be my only connection to my online school until I get back.06:36
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nicolai_WhtWolfTeradyne: was this an upgrade from Edgy to Feisty?06:37
WhtWolfTeradynenicolai_: No. I just did a fresh install of Feisty06:37
BluesKajdoes kde4 beta actually work ?06:38
nicolai_WhtWolfTeradyne: have you tried?: sudo dpkg --configure -a06:38
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WhtWolfTeradynenicolai_: I'll try that. Give me a sec.06:39
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WhtWolfTeradynenicolai_: same thing. It spits out "failed to write cache" with every font pack.06:39
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Insane`KDEhow does one change/set the root password?06:41
TheFuzzballInsane`KDE, sudo passwd06:41
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su-hoens`rZi'm trying to install kubuntu, and when i used the normal cd all 4 of my sata drives were detected, but on the alternate cd only one is detected06:42
su-hoens`rZanyone have any idea why?06:42
su-hoens`rZthe bios detects all the drives in both cases06:42
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nicolai_Insane`KDE: System settings -> advanced login -> convenience06:42
nicolai_WhtWolfTeradyne: can you test if the same error is given to other packages?06:43
Dr_willisfrom what little ive used vista.. i dont WANT it in any way/shape or form. ;)06:43
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nicolai_I have so far not met ONE person in real life who likes Vista :P06:43
Dr_willissu-hoens`rZ,  use 'sudo fdisk -l' in the console on the textinstaller cd and see if it sees them all? or if its just the isntaller thats asking about 1.06:44
WhtWolfTeradynenicolai_: I found the solution. > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40047306:44
su-hoens`rZDr_willis so reboot?06:44
jhutchins!sudo Insane`KDE06:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sudo insane`kde - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:44
Dr_willis'good points about Vista' I ask.. they say 'ya got that cool sidebar' .....06:44
jhutchins!sudo | Insane`KDE06:44
ubotuInsane`KDE: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:44
Dr_willissu-hoens`rZ,  one way to find out. Ive had no issues with the isntallers seeing all my hd's06:44
jhutchins!kdesu | Insane`KDE06:44
ubotuInsane`KDE: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo06:44
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Dr_willissu-hoens`rZ,  sata drives should appear as sd## type drives06:44
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Insane`KDEjhutchins, I know, thanks06:45
WhtWolfTeradynes/joke/jokes06:45
jhutchinsInsane`KDE: That's why you don't need to have a root password.06:45
su-hoens`rZDr_willis do you mean in the "Install in Text Mode" screen?06:45
su-hoens`rZthere's a console there?06:45
jhutchinsInsane`KDE: Using the sudo system, anything you do with root privilages is logged.06:46
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hsystemany alternative to kdesu?06:46
hsystemor for kdesu*06:46
Insane`KDEjhutchins, I was just asking so I could answer another guy's questions06:46
WhtWolfTeradyneI'm off to pack. Later everyone.06:47
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sivaji_how to compile a java program ?06:47
jhutchinsInsane`KDE: Generally I try to work within *buntu's security system.  I know enough that I can hack it completely and make it like what I'm used to, and I know enough not to create any real security risk when doing so.  Not everybody does.06:48
jhutchinsInsane`KDE: When people ask me how to get around a "security feature", I usually ask them what they really want to do, and try to show them how to do it within the policies and practices of *buntu.06:49
Insane`KDEjhutchins: Well this guy, "rotil", somehow installed without a root apsswqord and wanted to set it or so06:49
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jhutchinsInsane`KDE: ubuntu installs always lock the root account, so there is never a password unless someone defeats the system and sets it.06:53
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su-hoens`rZDr_willis fdisk also doesn't find anything other than the first disk :(06:54
su-hoens`rZanyone have any suggestions?06:54
jhutchinssu-hoens`rZ: You mean fdisk from the alt cd, right?06:55
su-hoens`rZjhutchins yeah06:55
jhutchinssu-hoens`rZ: Wonder if the scsi module isn't loading for some reason...06:55
su-hoens`rZwell it's finding the first one?06:55
su-hoens`rZbut not the other 3?06:55
su-hoens`rZseems kinda strange to me06:55
su-hoens`rZthey all get detected on the main cd06:56
su-hoens`rZbut i can't install softraid with that06:56
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su-hoens`rZjhutchins? :(06:58
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jhutchinssu-hoens`rZ: Yeah, sorry, I really can only speculate on this.07:01
su-hoens`rZjhutchins so no suggestions? :(07:02
jhutchinsI'm not even sure how you'd check what modules are loading with the standard CD and load them on the alt.07:02
jhutchinssata support does have problems.07:02
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jhutchinsYou know that software raid isn't going to gain any speed, right?07:02
su-hoens`rZwell it's more for convenience07:02
su-hoens`rZso that i can have just one massive home mount07:03
jhutchinssu-hoens`rZ: Having a single large volume instead of chopping it up.07:03
su-hoens`rZas opposed to 4 smaller ones07:03
jhutchinsmakes sense.07:03
jhutchinssu-hoens`rZ: Well, you can try the forums, and you can stick around and see if someone who's familiar with sata shows up.07:04
su-hoens`rZok thanks ;)07:04
jhutchinsI'm gonna go get coffee and read the newspaper.07:04
su-hoens`rZhf07:04
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pacman_can anyone assist me with wine?07:12
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nicolai_!ask | pacman_07:14
ubotupacman_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:14
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pacman_well, I'm trying to get a game to work, and when I use wine to open it, the screen goes black, like its trying to load, but nothing happens07:15
nicolai_pacman_: what game?07:16
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pacman_when I hit alt+tab to get a different window, the wine icon says 'exception encountered'...but I can't see what the exception is07:16
pacman_sim city 300007:16
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nicolai_pacman_: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=408607:17
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nicolai_pacman_: seems like it doesn't work yet..07:19
sudeepevery now and then no. of parallel vertical white line appers in the selected menu item... also in the title bar of the window... any solutions07:19
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lazz0nicolai_, it says some people ran it07:20
pacman_I had it working with wine when I was using 6.0607:20
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sudeepevery now and then no. of parallel vertical white line appers in the selected menu item... also in the title bar of the window... any solution07:21
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nicolai_pacman_: 6.06? that would be Wine 0.9.15 if you used the version that came with dapper.07:22
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pacman_okay] 07:23
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pacman_any way I can get that version?  Or can I only get the newest07:24
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nicolai_pacman_: Older versions are found here: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/index.html07:25
Kostuchcould someone copy his xorg.conf file? i've deleted my own by mistake07:26
Kostuchi use geforce 5200 FX07:26
Kostuchit would be great07:26
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Kostuchif it wasn't with nvidia drivers07:26
LeeJunFanKostuch: you should be able to get a default config by running sudo dpkg-reconfigure -p high xserver-xorg07:26
nicolai_pacman_: but it said that the Sim City 3000's maintainer's version was 0.9.42, so that might also work if you haven't tried the newest version yet07:27
Kostuchthanks07:27
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LeeJunFanAs for specific to your driver I can't help you I've got a crappy ATI.07:27
sudeepevery now and then no. of parallel vertical white line appers in the selected menu item... also in the title bar of the window... any solutions07:27
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Kostuchbig thanks :D07:28
nicolai_sudeep: I'm not quite sure I understand you :/07:28
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x_linkDoesn't Kubuntu have Gaim?07:30
Tomi-idleno. gaim is a gtk app07:30
nicolai_x_link: it has Kopete07:30
Tomi-idlebut you can intall it if you like07:30
hufihallo?07:31
x_linknicolai_: Okey, is that the same thing as gaim or what?07:31
hufiwo bin ich hier?07:31
sudeepnicolai_, every now and then, while selecting a menu item (application menu or KMENU) ,the selected menu items has parallel vertial white lines07:31
pag!de | hufi07:31
ubotuhufi: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de07:31
x_linknicolai_: I want to use MSN.07:31
Tomi-idlekopete has msn in it07:31
x_linknicolai_: Well, "msn".07:31
x_linkTomi-idle: Nice.07:31
Tomi-idleit has many protocols like icq and yahoo07:31
nicolai_x_link: it is a messenger client. I use it for MSN, so you should also be able to do it07:31
pagx_link, kopete supports it.. Kmess does it even better though07:31
x_linknicolai_: Hehe okej, thanks alot!.07:31
hufibenutzt ihr alle linux?07:31
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paghufi, /join #kubuntu-de07:32
nicolai_!de | hufi07:32
ubotuhufi: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de07:32
x_linkpag: I don't need anything advanced. Just something that works is good enough for me. But thanks anyway =)07:32
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x_linkWith Kopete, MSN Passport ID:, is that where I should write my e-mail or what?07:33
waylandbill_x_link: kopete is pretty close to what gaim can do. File xfer is one thing it can't do... yet...07:34
x_linkok07:34
x_linkBut MSN Passport ID: should I write my e-mail there?07:34
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waylandbill_x_link: the email you used to sign up for msn, yes.07:34
x_linkwaylandbill_: Okej, thanks.07:35
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x_linkNever used MSN for Linux before. This is my first time.07:35
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x_linkBut I should be good to go now 0)07:35
x_link=)07:35
Ahmuckanybody using JACK?07:35
Daisuke_Idothose jerks at dell :(07:35
waylandbill_Ahmuck: my guess is most are using alsa.07:35
Ahmuckanybody using JACK?07:35
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Daisuke_Idoships aug. 20 :\07:35
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Daisuke_IdoAhmuck: would it kill you wo wait more than 30 seconds between repeating your question?07:36
Ahmuckneed JACK with rosegarden, but can't get JACK to start07:36
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Ido: a ubuntu dell?07:36
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Daisuke_Idonosrednaekim: yep07:36
Daisuke_Idosupporting the cause07:36
hufiwo bin ich hier?07:36
AhmuckDaisuke_Ido: probally not if i could see the channel07:36
Ahmuckhowever i had to rejoin07:36
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Ahmuckso i was unsure that my question had been posted07:37
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Ido: which one? i'm drooling over the 1420n07:37
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Ahmucki'm not sure why it bothers you that much07:37
nicolai_sudeep: Do you think this might help?   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27910807:37
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sudeepnicolai_, thanks07:40
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Ahmuckdoes kubuntu have a "studio" package like ubuntu does ?07:40
Dr_willisstudio?07:40
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Tomi-idleno, but you can install different kernel and programs you want07:40
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nicolai_sudeep: And because I don't know if you know: this command will lead you to the file in question:  kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:41
sudeepnicolai_, ya i already onto it.07:42
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AhmuckTomi-idle: a different kernel, i assume that has to do with the system timing07:43
Daisuke_Idonosrednaekim: the 1420N :P07:45
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Ido: did you get the SWXGA screen?07:46
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Daisuke_Idonosrednaekim: PM :D07:48
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vzduchAhmuck: you can install ubuntu-studio-audio, you can install the lowlatency kernel or even the (experimental) realtime kernel07:50
narak2 questions, 1) Any idea how to enable sound trough a different port on a sound card?07:50
Ahmucki'v installed ubuntu-studio-audio, but i am not sure what i need for the lowlatencykernel07:51
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narakI want the sound out the optical port instead of the regular one..07:51
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killownhi07:53
vzduchnarak: if your card doesn't send the signal to all outputs by default anyway, you should be able to select the output in the mixer (KMix/alsamixer)07:53
killownhow Do I to install kde4 beta 1 via apt-get?07:53
narak2nd question, does nvidia driver use its own settings for resolution? cause it gives me max 1280*800 while tv supports 1366*768 and that resolution is set in xorg.conf..07:53
vzduchadd a source if you have one, update and install.. to my knowledge there is no source for Feisty07:54
narakkillown: hmm will check07:54
Ahmuckkillown: ouch, i don't think i would do so if i were you, kde4 beta is for developers07:54
ardchoille!kde4 | killown07:54
ubotukillown: KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at <http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule>. Alpha 2 packages can be found at <http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha2.php>.07:54
Dr_willisi would test out kde4 with the various live cd's that exist.07:54
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Dr_willisthat would be safest07:54
killownAhmuck, unstable a lot yet?07:54
Dr_willisalso thers not a lot to 'see' in kde4 yet.07:54
Ahmuckkillown: don't know, i have not tried it07:55
nicolai_Dr_willis: there is a lot to see, it just isn't enabled by default.07:55
Dr_willisI can wait. :)07:55
nicolai_Dr_willis: Same here :P07:55
Dr_willisNot like its going to cure your dogs cancer, or anything.07:56
Dr_willis:)07:56
narakkillown: alsamixergui fixed it ;)07:57
BluesKajDr_willis, i tried to get kde4 to run but I had no joy ..followed the insructions to the letter I think, but wouldn't launch07:57
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killownnarak, I want to install kde4 beta1 via apt07:58
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BluesKajkillown, you can find instructions here > http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha2.php07:59
BluesKajgood luck07:59
killownBluesKaj not kde4 alpha07:59
killownkde4 "beta1"07:59
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nosrednaekimkillown: go to www.kubuntu.org, its on the front page08:01
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user_Could some one dcc me usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop I over wrote mine....08:03
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BluesKajkillown, sorry had the wrong page08:03
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BluesKajhttp://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0-beta1.php08:07
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user_Could some one dcc me usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop I over wrote mine....08:09
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BluesKaji followed the install procedure here but you have to install cmake first ...i wish they would have told us before installing all the libs etc08:10
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martijnis there a special release coming when kde4-beta is out?08:12
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nicolai_martijn: KDE 4.0 beta1 is out. There will be a special version of Gutsy Gibbon when KDE 4.0 is finaly released'08:17
user_Could some one dcc me usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop I over wrote mine....08:17
user_nicolai_: could you send me that file08:17
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nicolai_nicolai_: and a special version containing KDE 4.1 when Gutsy+1 is released08:18
user_nicolai_: im installing kde4 now08:18
user_but i need the file b/c i overwrote mine with the one for kde408:18
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martijnnicolai_: so Gutsy+1 will not be kde4?08:19
nicolai_user_: i don't think I can. I have about five minutes before I'm out the door. :/08:19
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user_its a small file08:19
user_all you have to do is drag it on my name08:19
user_wich package can i find it in08:19
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user_martijn: could you send me /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop08:21
user_martijn: could you send me /usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop08:21
nicolai_martijn: Gutsy+1 is a Long Term Support release, and the version that will be shipped on CD is supposed to be extra stable08:21
nicolai_martijn: The will however be a downloadable cd with KDE 4 for both Gutsy and Gutsy+108:21
Tomi-idlekde4 beta out yet?08:22
user_Tomi-idle: yes08:23
nicolai_Tomi-idle: yep08:23
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Tomi-idleschweet. have to give it a go08:23
user_Tomi-idle:  i installed it but over wrote my usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop08:23
Tomi-idleplasma taskbar there yet?08:23
Tomi-idleouch :(08:23
user_could you send it to me08:23
Tomi-idlesure08:23
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user_thank  you08:23
nicolai_Tomi-idle: live-cd version:  http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/08:24
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nicolai_And with that I say goodbye, for now.08:24
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Tomi-idleoh bte do i need to change permission to the file08:25
Tomi-idle*btw08:25
user_Tomi-idle: I dont think i can chroot it when i get it08:25
user_im mena chmod08:25
user_mean chmod08:25
x_linkHow do I add a user in Kopete?08:26
x_linkFile --> Add Contact. There I can only see my own email08:26
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martijnuser_: have it already?08:27
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x_linkAnybody?08:27
user_martijn: no...08:27
Tomi-idleuser_: guess dcc aint working08:27
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Tomi-idlehave to get it from somewhere else08:28
martijnuser_: damn, i am not registered....08:28
user_Tomi-idle: dcc is enabled on my konversation program08:28
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Tomi-idlelet martijn send it08:28
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instabinok08:28
Brandendoes anyone here have any experience with copying packages to their harddrive to create a local repository.  Is it even possible?08:28
instabinI changed my nick08:29
instabinand identifyed08:29
Ze_Mwhere can i download latest kubuntu ppc gutsy snapshot?08:29
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instabinTomi-idle: did it go?08:29
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george_hi everyone :)08:32
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bridgeDCC START KEYLOGGER08:36
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BluesKajBranden, a local repos can made with apt-cache as seen here http://lwn.net/Articles/216706/08:40
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BrandenBluesKaj:  Thank you i wll look into that08:42
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BluesKajthx anyway genii , think I'll stick with cool drinks today08:43
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geniiBluesKaj: OK, an ice capp for you then :)08:44
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BluesKaj:)08:44
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jhutchinsZe_M: I don't know that there is a gutsy ppc.08:46
jhutchinsZe_M: Besides, gutsy is still in #ubuntu+1 - they might know there.08:47
Ze_Mjhutchins: im downloading it08:47
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Ze_Mjhutchins: there are snapshots of gutsy08:48
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jhutchinsZe_M: K.  Some distros are dropping ppc support.  Is anybody still making ppc machines?08:49
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TheRealInsaneAAAARGH!08:53
TheRealInsaneLinux just fucked up08:53
runleveltenIt did?08:54
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BluesKajpretty general term08:54
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vzduch!away | Pharoh08:58
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ubotuPharoh: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines08:58
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Aranelhi, how can i install 2.6.22.1 kernel to Kubuntu ? Are there any packages ?08:59
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lontraAranel: i don't believe you ... you08:59
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lontra'll need to wait for gutsy08:59
stdinAranel: only in gutsy08:59
lontraAranel: you can always roll your own from kernel.org09:00
stdinbetter to get it from git09:00
walterhi09:00
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Aranellontra: stdin: but I must install it, because i'm in trouble with 2.6.20 , and kernel bugzilla says "try 22, try 22 , try 22" :)09:00
lontrastdin: ah it's easy to roll your own ;)09:00
stdinAranel: what trouble??09:01
lontraAranel: what's your problem?09:01
Aranelstdin: lontra: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=883609:01
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stdinlontra: no, I mean get the source from git, rather than kernel.org09:01
walteralguien habla espaol09:02
lontrastdin: oh i see09:02
vzduch!es | walter09:02
lontra!es09:02
ubotuwalter: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:02
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walterthank!09:02
lontraAranel: alternatively ... not sure if this would work or break your system ... you could add gutsy sources ... sudo apt-get update && apt-get install linux-image-2.6.22-9-generic ... but again that might break your system09:03
Aranellontra: umm, Is it unstable ?09:04
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lontraAranel: i'm running gutsy, it's working fine here ... but it's in development09:04
attunixhow do i import pictures into pitivi?09:04
attunixlontra: try #kubuntu+109:04
attunix:)09:05
stdinAranel: have you tried removing the ehci_hcd module? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/8874609:05
lontraattunix: ?09:05
Aranelstdin: yes, doesn't work for me.09:05
lontraattunix: don't just join and give feedback w/o knowing what we're talking about09:05
attunixlontra: sorry09:05
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lontrawell i wasn't trying to be a jerk and make the guy leave ... oh well09:06
Aranellontra: Is Linux 2.6.22-9-generic flagged "unstable" by kernel.org ?09:06
lontraAranel: no 2.6.22.1 is the latest stable kernel ... IIRC09:07
parsnipAranel: usually odd numbered releases are considered unstable09:07
parsnipAranel: and even are stable09:07
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Aranellontra: i'm scared :P09:07
lontraAranel: well don't do it then :)09:07
parsnipDoes anyone use Beryl, the folk in there arent chatting09:08
Aranellontra: Can I install 2.6.22.1 or only 2.6.22-9-generic for me ?09:08
lontraAranel: like i said if you could possible just cherry pick the kernel from gutsy w/o adding any stuff from gutsy other then the kernel and dependecies09:08
dougbHi, the remote desktop client that came with kubuntu doesn't seem to be working, can anyone recommend an alternative?09:08
lontraAranel: well you can install 2.6.22.1 but 2.6.22-9-generic is what's in gutsy09:08
lontraAranel: you'll need to roll your own with the former09:08
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Aranellontra: what's your suggestion ? 1 or 9-generic ?09:10
parsnipdougb: there is a java one somewhere i believe09:10
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lontraAranel: i don't know depends on your problem ... i think getting a .deb would be easier ... why don't you add a gutsy source to /etc/apt/sources.list ... run sudo apt-get update ... and then sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.22-9-generic and see what kind of dependencies it wants to bring it ... if it's a lot don't do it ... you can always pastebin the dependencies and tell you if i *think* you'll be fine :)09:12
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=== stdin thinks that *should* work
vzduchlontra: not so fast.. one should at least give the Gutsy source a lower priority09:12
george_hi all :P09:13
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lontravzduch: sure ... but if he's just going to add the repo then delete it not too much of a big deal09:13
Aranellontra: :) i'll retry 2.6.22.1 , and if it doesn't work, i'll try 2.6.22-9-generic. Thanks :)09:13
parsniplo george_09:13
lontrabrb09:13
stdinAranel: that's the hard way09:13
george_I'm having a problem with gutsy atm, and I'm in need of some help, if possible :P09:13
stdingeorge_: gutsy help in #ubuntu+109:14
parsnipgeorge_: wassup?09:14
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parsnipits gutsy an official release now?09:14
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george_stdin thx for the channel (is the channels also good for kubuntu +1 ?)09:14
stdinparsnip: no, that's why help/support/questions/chatter is in +109:14
vzduchparsnip: it won't be until October or so09:15
stdingeorge_: yeah, both ubuntu and kubuntu in there09:15
parsnipcheers stdin, vzduch09:15
george_stdin thx a lot :P09:15
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parsnipi have the nvidia-glx deb install on my system and I have 3d accelleration09:17
parsnipshould i install the nvidia drivers from www.nvidia.com09:17
jhutchins!nvidia | parsnip09:17
ubotuparsnip: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:17
stdinparsnip: that IS the nvidia driver09:17
assidhey09:17
parsnipstdin: i thought you had to run the .sh from runleve 309:18
parsniprunlevel 309:18
parsnipstdin: is it not different09:18
parsnipstdin: ?09:18
jhutchinsparsnip: runlevel 3 is no different from runlevels 2-5 on ubuntu/debian.09:19
stdinparsnip: do not use the download from nvidia unless you REALY know what you're doing and don't mind going without a GUI to fix it09:19
stdinparsnip: the nvidia-glx package IS THE DRIVER, it's just been packaged for you09:19
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dranasI got a quick question.09:20
assiderr how do i change the default hostname ? just edit /etc/hosts and stuff ?09:20
parsnipstdin: thanks man, now i understand09:20
assidor is there a ui for it09:20
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parsnipstdin: runlevels start and stop diferent services and use symbolic links to them to start and stop services as you progress through09:21
stdinassid: system settings > network settings09:21
stdinparsnip: what makes you think I don't know this?09:21
dranasadept updater keeps wanting to download this new mesa opengl dung, and ive been using the ati driver which is better i think. My question is how do i get adept to quit telling me it has updates that i dont want?09:21
dranasunless of course these updates mesa things are  better than ati09:22
parsnipstdin: you said they were the same in ubuntu09:22
assidthanks stdin09:23
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stdindranas: they are supposed to be better than the ati one, and you can't tell adept that09:23
dranasalright ill give em a shot09:24
dranasif they suck ill just reinstall  the ati one09:24
dranaslol09:24
dranasthanks09:24
stdinparsnip: i didn't say anything about runlevels, I said the nvidia-glx package is the same as the one from nvidia.com excapt already configured and compiled for you09:24
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dougbis there a default email client for kubuntu?09:24
assidstdin: any clue how to set the taskbar to be individual per desktop ?09:24
elite101help my computer wont boot for some reason it says this:    [ 30.343271]  Kernelpanic- not syncing: VFS : unable to mount FS unknown wn-block(0,0)09:25
elite101whats that mean?09:25
vzduchdougb: well, as Kubuntu is KDE-based, you could guess that it's KMail09:25
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assidbtw.. someone may want to check out the kubuntu dvds'09:25
stdinassid: right click it, click configure panel -> taskbar and uncheck "show windows from all desktops"09:25
dougbsweettooth: is it not installed in kubuntu?09:25
assidi kept getting that stupid squashfs issues.. and the cd image works09:26
parsnipstdin: my mistake it was jhutchins who confused me, my apologies09:26
stdinelite101: usually that the initrd.img isn't beeing loaded09:26
elite101whats that?09:26
elite101how do i fix that? im running off the live cd09:26
dougbnevermind i found it09:27
elite101do i have to do a re-install?09:27
elite101again?09:27
jhutchinsparsnip: In debian-based systems, only runlevels 1 and 6 differ from the default.09:28
jhutchinsparsnip: runlevel 3 is the same as 5 is the same as 2.09:28
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parsniprunnlevel 3 doesnt start the x server09:29
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ShockValueummm.. i have a proccess called pscan2 running at like 100% cpu.  it sounds dangerous from google.. have i been rooted or something?09:29
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jhutchinsparsnip: It does in ubuntu.09:29
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jhutchinsparsnip: What other distributions have you run?09:29
elite101 [ 30.343271]  Kernelpanic- not syncing: VFS : unable to mount FS unknown wn-block(0,0)  how do i fix this?09:30
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parsnipmandriva, suse, knoppix09:30
jhutchinsparsnip: Ok, in mandriva and suse they have the standard runlevels defined, and 3 is everything-but-X.09:30
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jhutchinsparsnip: Knoppix is debian based and all runlevels are the same, just like ubuntu.09:30
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elite101 [ 30.343271]  Kernelpanic- not syncing: VFS : unable to mount FS unknown wn-block(0,0)09:31
assidokay is it me.. or is my graphics card too bad for opengl stuff ?09:31
parsnipjhutchins: im learning every day09:31
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jhutchinsparsnip: You can MAKE a debian-based system work like those other systems by setting different services to run in different runlevels, but by default they're the same.09:31
parsnipjhutchins: very strange, why does it not have them09:31
assidgeforce fx 5200.. and opengl based screensavers for example have major loads09:31
parsnipassid: what you got?09:31
vzduchjhutchins: would be new if it were like this in Knoppix.. afaik there is a cheatcode 'knoppix 2' that starts in runlevel 2 (multi-user text mode)09:31
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jhutchinsparsnip: Or better yet, why does it have them but not use them?  I think the answer is that they're required for LSB compliance.09:32
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assidparsnip: shouldnt be that bad right ?09:32
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jhutchinsAll I know is that it's debian based.09:33
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Level15hey. i've seen that solaris has some ssh-http-proxy-connect and ssh-socks-proxy-connect helper commands... but i can't find anything like that on my linux box. any ideas where can i get those?09:34
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parsnipassid: just install the nvidia drivers. check http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/02/06/install-beryl-on-ubuntu-feisty-with-aiglx-for-nvidia-ubuntu-704/09:34
elite101help my xbox burnt out my tv09:35
elite101my xbox made my tv go green09:35
elite101it wont change09:35
Level15elite101: burn your xbox09:36
Level15:P09:36
assidparsnip: deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org feisty main works for kubuntu as well right?09:36
elite101okay09:36
elite101i need help09:36
elite101 [ 30.343271]  Kernelpanic- not syncing: VFS : unable to mount FS unknown wn-block(0,0)09:36
elite101this keeps on comming up09:36
elite101when i boot09:36
parsnipassid: as long as it has the nvidia package - yes09:36
Level15elite101: have you messed up with your partitions recently?09:36
elite101nope09:36
Level15sure? not even from windows?09:36
elite101i just a reinstall yesteday09:37
elite101no windows on this hdd09:37
Level15and it worked yesterday?09:37
elite101yeah today too09:37
Level15hm09:37
Level15weird09:37
Level15ok09:37
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elite101i go to reboot and it says that09:37
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assidhrmm gotta wait for adept to finish downloading..09:37
Level15do you have a cd?09:37
elite101kubuntu 6.0.6.1 sucks09:37
elite101yeah09:37
phoenixzHi there! I had a P4 computer with a 320GB SATA drive with a kubuntu installation, and I just got a new Intel motherboard, with a dualcore pentium.. I changed the mobo, connected everything correctly, restarted, and the bios tells me there are no boot devices, even though the SATA drive is connected.. if I connect another drive, it does boot.. If I switch back to the older motherboard, the 320GB drive suddenly does boot.. Does anybody have an idea how I c09:37
phoenixzan solve this problem??09:37
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Level15elite101: boot off it and try to fix grub09:38
Level15i think there's a mode for that09:38
elite101ohh how?09:38
Level15recovery mode or something like that09:38
elite101im on the live cd rite now09:38
Level15ok09:38
Level15then09:38
Level15hm09:38
Level15is the / and /boot partition mounted?09:39
elite101what ?09:39
elite101im not sure09:39
elite101how do i check?09:39
elite101gparted09:39
Level15no...09:39
Level15open a konsole, type "mount"09:39
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stdinelite101: what kernel version have you got?09:40
elite1012.6?09:40
elite101or 2.409:40
elite101i think 609:40
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elite101kubuntu dapper KDE 3.5.2 6.06.1 LTS09:41
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stdinelite101: need the full version, 2.6.XX-XX-XXX09:41
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nfoonfhi09:42
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stdinelite101: is it 2.6.15-28-386 ?09:43
elite101how do i check?09:43
elite101not sure09:43
boris__were do I DOWNLOAD BIN2ISO PACKAGE09:43
stdinelite101: you'd need to mount your root partition and look in boot/09:43
nfoonfFolks, does anyone of you know, whats up with kde 4 beta 1 Packages in Feisty Backports?09:43
boris__need it for bin file09:43
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elite101how?09:44
stdin!iso09:44
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.09:44
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elite101err i dont have a iso?09:44
elite101its a HDD09:44
stdinnfoonf: ask in -devel09:44
stdinelite101: that wasn't for you09:44
nfoonfstdin, thx09:44
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stdinelite101: type "sudo fdisk -l" in konsole and post that to pastebin09:44
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vzduchboris__: what .bin file?09:44
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elite101whats pastebin?09:45
vzduchboris__: are you sure it's a CD image?09:45
stdin!pastebin | elite10109:45
ubotuelite101: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:45
stdinvzduch: some cd images are in bin/cue format, VCD for instance usually are09:45
boris__Allman Brothers Band 9-23-70.bin09:46
boris__this09:46
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boris__no it is noot09:46
vzduchstdin: I know, that's why I ask09:46
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ubuntucan anyone help me?09:47
stdin!anyone | ubuntu09:47
ubotuubuntu: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?09:47
elite101omg screw it i wil just do another install it prob wont work anyways if i try to fix it09:47
assidbrb..09:48
parsnipelite101: boot  to the live environment and burn your mp3s and porn to dvd09:48
boris__vzduch09:48
parsnipelite101: then reinstall09:48
ubuntucan anyone help me with a, mabey simple, g++ konsole compiling?09:48
stdinubuntu: have you installed build-essential ?09:48
parsnipsup ubuntu09:48
ubuntui dont know how to answer this09:49
ubuntuno09:49
stdinubuntu: you need that package to compile anything09:49
ubuntubut ive compiled simpleer one file projects with g++ alreaady successfully09:49
ubuntuno09:49
ubuntuwrong09:49
stdinyes, right, it depends on everythig you'll need09:50
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ubuntuim sorry excuse me09:50
ubuntui just need to include all the files in my project directory09:50
stdinubuntu: if you want c++ help, there's ##c++09:51
ubuntuhi parsnip09:51
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parsnipubuntu: wassup man09:51
ubuntuthanks everyone youve been so much help09:51
Level15ubuntu: create a single file which includes them all (call it all.h or whatever) then include it on every file ;)09:51
ubuntuwanna make security scripts together?09:52
jhutchinsubuntu: Would a guide to compiling software on ubuntu be useful to you?09:52
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ubuntuparsnip09:52
ubuntui guess a document on compiling projects would be some help09:52
jhutchins!build | ubuntu09:53
ubotuubuntu: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)09:53
rjbdang, networkmanager doesn't like my wifi adapter09:53
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ubuntucan you make it like you?09:54
ubuntuis there any brute force li8king available?09:54
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ubuntucan you call the better business bearuo if it doesnt like you?09:54
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ubuntucan i create a stampede of better busness bearuoue callers to make computers in general like me?09:55
ubuntume or you?09:55
rjbi mean writing a simple /etc/network/interfaces makes it work right away, but networkmanager seems unable to cope with it09:55
ubuntucan i create a stampede of better busness bearuoue callers to make computers in general like me?09:55
ubuntuive had two ubuntu computers die on me, can somebody help me?09:55
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ubuntuive had two ubuntu computers die on me, can somebody help me?09:56
rjband by 'die' you mean?09:56
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ubuntuslow, wont install , wont adept, slow slow , ajuta dies on me09:56
ubuntu.....................................................09:56
jhutchinsubuntu: Looks like you'd rather complain than solve the problems.09:57
ubuntugets worse, gets slower, less functionality, basicly computers evolving into high proced junk heaps09:57
elite101lol wow someone setup a cluster of PS2's (playstation2's) and use's them as a "supercomputer" wich contains 70 ps2's linked together in one cluster09:57
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ubuntui canty solve a broken computer09:57
ubuntui just cant09:57
elite101jeEz imagine 70 ps3's linked together09:57
ubuntutoo much09:57
BluesKajubuntu do you have a specific question , or are just here to vent ?09:58
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ubuntuthe only thing i can think to do is write a backup scriopt that tells me if any file has changed size on me09:58
rjbubuntu: get professional help, maybe?09:58
beobalhi - can anybody help me with dual monitor setup on intel 945?09:59
beobal2 days of googling has proved fruitless09:59
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ubuntuhow do i write a bash script that will store file sizes for all file on my computer?10:01
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elite101lol all the ps2's linked to gether equal up one gigaflop!!10:01
fdovingubuntu: there are already programs that does that.10:02
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ubuntucould you mabey give me a clue to which file this is?10:02
fdovingubuntu: you can checkout systraq and tripwire atleast10:02
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ubuntuare they on ubuntu, or do i have to go on the stupidnet to go find them?10:03
fdovingubuntu: they are in the universe repository10:04
ubuntui dont even install linux anymore, because my die if i do10:04
ubuntumy computer fail all over me when i do10:05
rjbubuntu: if linux is giving you a bad time, just lay it off and get yerself a mac10:05
ubuntumy father is going to buy me one next week10:06
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ubuntu36th computer<10:06
parsnipubuntu: thats crazy10:06
ubuntui cant even make a grade on a microsoft prodioct on apple10:06
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parsnipubuntu: i still have all my old rigs doing little jobs for me :)10:07
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ubuntuhow do you find out if a hacker is logged into you?10:09
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stdinhacker != cracker10:10
ubuntuhow do you find out if a hacker is logged into you?10:10
Tomi-idlelol10:10
Tomi-idlebut the tv says they're hackers!10:11
ubuntuhow do you find out if a computer raper is logged into you?10:11
stdinthe TV is wrong10:11
Tomi-idlecheck if theres another login first ..10:11
fdovingubuntu: 'sudo aptitude install chkrootkit;sudo chkrootkit', might work.10:11
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stdinubuntu: we aren't blind, we can read, stop repeating10:11
ubuntui dont think im ready to install and use root knowledge driven utilities10:12
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DaSkreechubuntu: You will never be ready until you do10:13
AranelHi, I installed 2.6.22.1 kernel from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158&highlight=kernel  article. But i have a problem with X. My new kernel doesn't start X. In this article, in "nvidia troubleshooting", It says "5. Re-run the NVIDIA installer" , how i can run it ? I'm used sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx new and sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new, but it doesnt work.10:13
rjuneDaSkreech: is that like you will never be ready for sex until you have it?10:13
DaSkreechrjune: Fairly close10:13
jenny_Question: Can I get wine to open Juno Linspire on Kubuntu?10:13
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stdinAranel: you have to download and insall from nvidia.com, the packages won't work with a non-ubuntu kernel10:14
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DaSkreechrjune: Though sex may be riskier10:14
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elite101_rrr10:14
rjunearguably it's more enjoyable though10:14
elite101_there10:14
elite101_my internet dissconected im on slow wireless10:14
Level15ping?10:16
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DaSkreechrjune: You argue your way I'll argue mine ;)10:16
Aranelstdin: "the packages" ? all of packages or just nvidia's drivers ?10:16
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ubuntueverytime i go to the nine inch nails site, my computer dies10:16
ubuntuevenkubuntu computers10:16
stdinAranel: any "driver" package won't work, others will10:17
Aranelstdin: umm :(10:17
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rjuneubuntu_: that should clue you in that Nine Inch Nails are evil crackers trying to destroy your computer10:18
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DaSkreechubuntu: Dies?10:19
ubuntudies10:19
DaSkreechHave to reboot dies?10:19
ubuntuturns into a piece of junk10:20
DaSkreechAlt+Ctrl+F1 Doesn't work dead?10:20
ubuntujunk10:20
jhutchinsDaSkreech: Ignore him, he's just trolling.10:20
ubuntuwhats trolling?10:20
DaSkreech!troll10:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:21
DaSkreechDrat :)10:21
jenny_Anyone know about getting wine to open Juno Linspire on Kubuntu?10:21
stdinjenny_: what is it?10:22
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edulixhi10:23
jenny_I have to get Juno to work on here, no ifs and or butts about it. i dont want to pay for linspire or switch to freespire etc, i want wine to run it10:23
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ubuntuhow do i start and stop my xserver?10:23
edulixI have vlc and w32codecs installed, but I see videos "pixelated"10:23
edulixI have exactly the same versions of both packages in other ubuntu pc and the videos lok fine there10:24
stdin!X | ubuntu10:24
ubotuubuntu: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:24
edulixand the vlc settings: the default ones10:24
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edulixcan someone please enlighten me?10:24
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ubuntucan anyone help me with a g++ compile?10:35
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assidheya10:37
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assidi cant seem to get the damn beryl to work10:37
assidcan someone help me10:37
assidnow the opengl screensavers have disappeared too10:38
ubuntuhelp me first10:38
assiderr.. brbr.. gonna try something10:39
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nosrednaekimubuntu_: there are no "firsts"10:39
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nosrednaekimif someone can help you, they will10:39
DaSkreechubuntu: and you may want to be more specific10:40
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ubuntuim trying to compile a project with g++, and i dont know how to make the compiler find the other code files in the same diorectory10:40
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ubuntuhow do i link the other cpp and h files in the build?10:41
georgethe easiest way is to use an IDE :)10:41
ubuntui dont want to10:41
ubuntui want to use the g++ command line to do it10:41
stdinubuntu: ##c++10:42
ubuntuo yeah, sorry10:42
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Goliath23hi10:45
Goliath23could someone with 7.04 feisty please tar his /etc/apt directory and put it on a webspace for me?10:46
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DaSkreechGoliath23: I'm sorry why?10:47
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ceis it possible to change the creation date on a file?10:47
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Goliath23DaSkreech: i have an up to date system but my adept_manager still shows the old style of managing repositories (as known from dapper) ... I want the dialog based one. and the only explanation I have for it, is, that it might not be able to parse the files in /etc/apt and falls back to the line-based editing of sources..10:48
nosrednaekimce: yeah, rename it, then delete the original, and then rename it back to the original (of course that will only change the time to the present10:49
Goliath23nosrednaekim: touch <filename> would have the same effect10:50
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ceno chance to specify a date?10:50
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nosrednaekimce: read "man touch"10:51
ceah, ok.. thre it is10:51
cethanks10:51
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DaSkreechGoliath23: You have to install a package to get the new way of doing it10:52
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DaSkreechGoliath23: it's just a preference10:53
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Goliath23oh really?10:54
Goliath23which one?10:54
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Goliath23DaSkreech: any idea which paket that is?10:55
Goliath23ahh10:56
Goliath23software-properties-kde10:56
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DaSkreechGoliath23: softwareproperties-kde10:56
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DaSkreechDang10:56
DaSkreechYeah :)10:56
Goliath23cool, thanks10:56
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Goliath23its actually a dependency of kubuntu-desktop, which I didn't have installed, probably because I removed ktorrent the other day..10:57
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Tomi-idlehow to boot to kde4 instance? gutsy10:59
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Tomi-idleinstance ---- session .. lol. too much WoW11:00
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x_linkDoesn't Kubuntu 7.04 have GIMP?11:01
Tomi-idlesudo apt-get install gimp11:01
Tomi-idleor thru adept11:01
Goliath23x_link: it has, you probably have to install it11:01
Tomi-idleit's a gtk application. kde is based on qt11:01
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x_linkTomi-idle: I don't find it in my K Menu, that's why I asked.11:01
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Goliath23x_link: have you installed it? if yes, it should appear in your k-menu11:03
MADZhi guys11:04
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x_linkGoliath23: Now I have yeah, but before. I thought GIMP was pre-installed. That's why I wanted to ask before I started searching/installing =)11:04
x_linkGoliath23: Thanks!11:04
Goliath23okay :)11:05
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Goliath23x_link: krita is the kde graphics application that gets preinstalled.11:05
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su-hoens`rZanyone know why the kubuntu alt cd installer doesn't locate 3 of my 4 sata drives even though the bios and the main cd find them fine? :(11:05
fdovingsu-hoens`rZ: might want to ask that in #ubuntu-devel11:06
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su-hoens`rZfdoving thanks... didn't know about that chan :)11:06
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fdovingsu-hoens`rZ: it's mainly for development-things, don't be scared if they tell you to shut up and go to a support channel.. but they probably know more about debian-installer.11:07
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su-hoens`rZfdoving hehe thanks for the heads up :)11:07
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BluesKaji know that uname -a gives the kernel version , what's the cmnd for the distro version?11:13
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Ace2016whats the difference between uname -r and -a?11:13
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Ace2016oh it gives the date and time of compile11:14
Ace2016and also says SMP, wonder why11:14
fdovingBluesKaj: lsb_release -a11:14
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BluesKajuname -r = 2.6.20-16-generic , uname -a 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Jun 7 20:19:32 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux11:15
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BluesKajrunning gutsy now ...had a successful install ...all seems fine so far11:18
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Tomi-idlehey. is there a gutsy package for the oxygen theme for kde4?11:19
KernelBluesKaj: cat /etc/release should tell you too...11:19
Kernelnot sure if its on EVERY distro11:19
BluesKajnope11:20
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Kernelok11:20
rjbcat /etc/issue11:20
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rjbfor debian and derivates11:20
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Kernelah i tried it on mandriva11:20
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sahin_hIs Somebody know what is the keyboard shortcut of the kde4 desktopgrid effect?11:22
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BluesKajI have gutsy installed , can tell by the behavior of the login and the cli , but lsb_release -a says it's feisty11:22
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Assidheya11:23
BluesKajstrange11:23
BluesKajstrange11:23
fdovingBluesKaj: are all packages up2date?11:24
BluesKajfdoving i would think , just ran it an hr ago11:24
BluesKajhow to check ?11:24
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fdovingBluesKaj: run 'sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade' from a konsole11:25
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BluesKajyeah that's the cmnd i used , fdoving11:25
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Goliath23somehow my KDM has fallen back to the english keyboard setting. any idea how I can fix that?11:26
Ace2016sahin_h: try in #kde11:26
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sahin_hAce2016: Ok, I will.11:27
DaSkreechX_link: YOu can try krita11:27
Assidanyone here know how to keep thunderbird always updated with kubuntu ?11:28
Ace2016Goliath23: did you try in kcontrol11:28
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Assidand in beryl .. how to get the desktop cube to only show the screen as is.. instead of it growing up.. and showing all the windows like vista's flip 3d?11:29
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Ace2016Goliath23: Alt+F2 and run kdesu kcontrol, then go into System Administration > Login Manager at the bottom there is a thing called local, change that11:29
AranelAssid: Beryl doesn't have "Flip 3D" effect. Compiz Fusion have.11:30
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devnullWhats the best way to use a vnc server with kde? I need to access my linux box from a windows box11:30
Ace2016ssh?11:30
AssidAranel: okay how do i disable that ? so the windows dont stackup ?11:31
Assidim not using compiz window manager11:31
devnullAce2016: Yes I COULD use ssh, but I would rather do it in a gui interface.11:31
Ace2016Assid: well you have to get it if you want vista's flip3d thing11:31
AranelAssid: I don't know. I think there is an option in Beryl Manager.11:31
AssidAce2016: well.. im not getting the flip3d itself.. it only shows up in the cube11:32
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Ace2016what are you trying to do with that cube?11:33
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Assidwell.. as soon as i get the cube.. the windows start stacking up..11:33
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Ace2016like they are sticking out of the cube?11:34
Assidyes11:34
Ace2016Beryl Manager > Visual Effects > 3D Effects, disable it11:34
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Ace2016just tried it, very annoying11:35
Assidwhich option is it ?11:35
Assiderr. space between right ?11:35
Assidk11:35
Ace2016worked?11:36
Assidyes11:36
Assidlooks like11:36
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Ace2016good11:36
skeetwhenever i try to start beryl i just get a black screen11:36
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Assiderr.. how do i get beryl to be on startup11:37
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Ace2016skeet: create a new text file in ~/.kde/Autostart/ called beryl-manager and put this into it:11:38
Ace2016#!/bin/bash11:38
Ace2016beryl-manager11:38
Ace201611:38
Ace2016make sure to have the blank line after beryl-manager11:38
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Ace2016thats it11:38
Ace2016skeet: what is beryl running on? gfx card? using xgl or plain x? nvidia beta drivers or the ones from the distro? source of beryl, ubuntu or official beryl ones?11:39
skeetwhere is .kde located11:39
Ace2016skeet: in your home directory, its a hidden folder since it starts with a .11:40
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Ace2016Alt+F2, type ~ and press enter, to get to your home dir, then View > Show Hidden Files11:40
skeetok thanks i'll see if it works11:41
Assidhrmm.. apparently with all these effects.. stuff like copying a file can slow down.. if you move around too much11:42
level1Hi, I'm trying to get raid working on my computer.  I have 4 sata hard drives.  I set up raid in the bios, but qtparted just shows 4 real hard drives, no raid11:42
level1whats the trick?11:42
Ace2016Assid: even on my nvidia card it was slow, the second i ran beryl with xgl the speed increased a lot11:43
su-hoens`rZanyone know why the kubuntu alt cd installer doesn't locate 3 of my 4 sata drives even though the bios and the main cd find them fine? :(11:43
skeetummm .kde doesnt have a file called autostart11:43
Ace2016level1: well if it does not work in bios then use the alternative installer disk and setup a software raid11:43
Assidi think im using it with xgl11:43
level1Ace2016: I was hoping to get a hardware raid working, because I want to use windows and some other stuff on this computer11:43
Ace2016oh ok11:44
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level1Ace2016: if I set up raid 5 in my bois (and I checked, its there) should I have to do something to get it to work?  Why doesn't the bios just present the raided hard drives as one hard drive?11:45
Ace2016skeet: its not a file, its a folder called Autostart, it starts with a capital for some reason11:45
skeetok i'll check again11:45
skeetnope11:46
skeetnothin11:46
Ace2016skeet: make a dir called Autostart11:46
skeetin .kde?11:46
DragnslcrArgh, what happened to my sound11:46
Ace2016yea11:47
DragnslcrIt was working fine yesterday, and I haven't changed any sound settings11:47
Ace2016Dragnslcr: stop working randomly?11:47
skeetok h/o11:47
DragnslcrAce2016- seems like it11:47
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skeetok11:48
Ace2016mine does it too, i think its caused by arts hogging the sound device, so i ran sudo killall -9 artsd and sound worked again11:48
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Assidit just crashed if i play with it :P11:48
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skeetok now what11:48
Ace2016level1: its the sameon my system, ubuntu did not see the drives as one they showed as different ones, i have up and used ubuntu with software raid 0 for root and raid 1 for /home and no raid for windows11:49
Assidskeet: dont forget to set the permissions for beryl-manager in your autostart to +x] 11:49
Ace2016skeet: what are you trying to run on startup?11:49
Assid+x even11:49
level1Ace2016:11:49
level1Ace2016: I just don't want to have to download another cd11:49
skeetim so confused11:49
skeetok i just installed linux ubuntu11:49
skeetand i wanted to get beryl11:49
AssidAce2016: wheres the option to show the hidden directories ?11:49
skeetthe matrix theme11:49
Ace2016View > Show hidden files11:50
BluesKajErrors were encountered while processing: kdepim11:50
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DragnslcrAce2016- that didn't seem to help. I even tried /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart11:50
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PazyGrub is still getting the better of me :(11:50
Assidaah11:50
skeetand then i installed beryl and now whenever i try to use it i get a black screen11:50
skeetdo i need a certain video card?11:51
skeetor what11:51
Ace2016i use nvidia, what do you use?11:51
Assidskeet: the better the video card.. the better it is11:51
skeetim usin a radeon 955011:51
Ace2016and i run xgl with xgl but most people say i don't need it11:51
AssidAce2016: someone should updte the guides.. it forgot to mention to change the driver from nv to nvidia11:51
Ace2016oh well that sucks11:51
AssidAce2016: how the hell did you get xgl .. is it the same as glx ?11:52
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Ace2016Assid: used apt-get install to install xserver-xgl11:52
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Ace2016and then edited /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc, i changed   ServerCmd=/usr/bin/X -br  to ServerCmd=/usr/bin/Xgl -br -ac -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv   and that was all i did11:54
Ace2016then restarted kdm and then it used xgl, then logged in and ran beryl-xgl11:54
Assidlots of performance difference ?11:54
Ace2016by the way the beryl in the ubuntu repository does not support xgl11:55
Ace2016i had to use the one from bery'l repo11:55
Assidoh crap.. k11:55
skeetso what do i do11:55
AssidAce2016: would it be alot of performance difference?11:55
PazyI i use Adept to uninstall Grub then reinstall it, should there be any ill effects? I need it to detect my WinXP as well11:55
Ace2016yea quite a bit11:55
AssidAce2016: pm ?11:55
Ace2016ok11:56
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DragnslcrAce2016- bleh, headphones work, but my regular speakers don't11:56
skeethmmmmm11:56
DragnslcrAce2016- speakers use digital output, so that might be the problem, but I'm not sure how else to test11:56
skeetcan someone pm me11:57
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skeetok so can someone help me out with this or am i screwed and just need to get windows xp?12:00
su-hoens`rZlol skeet12:00
su-hoens`rZi'm at the same point :D12:01
skeetlol12:01
skeetit sucks man12:01
su-hoens`rZfkn soft raid doesn't work12:01
skeet?12:01
su-hoens`rZmy drives aren't getting detected by the cd even though bios and the main installation cd work12:01
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su-hoens`rZand no one has an answer as to why12:01
skeetwow12:01
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skeetits like this channel just turned into a ghost town12:02
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tomiwhere do i find the oxygen them for kde4 beta1? running gutsy12:02
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Sanneskeet: if it#s not kubuntu specific, try also in #ubuntu, more people there12:03
KartiHi all12:03
skeetok12:03
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Kartisu-hoens`rZ: What drives can't you see?12:04
su-hoens`rZKarti 3 of my 4 sata drives12:04
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Kartiwhere have you looked?12:05
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su-hoens`rZKarti what do you mean?12:06
KartiHave you looked in System Settings in the Kmenu12:06
su-hoens`rZKarti in the partitioner and fdisk12:06
su-hoens`rZKarti i'm trying to install kubuntu12:06
KartiAh.....sorry, are they raided or just individual disks?12:07
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su-hoens`rZKarti currently they're individual disks that i'm trying to software raid12:09
su-hoens`rZbut i can't raid the disk if kubuntu doesn't detect 3/4 :D12:09
KartiI'm afraid I have only used the bios and hardware raid12:10
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KartiAnd then Kubuntu would only see it as the one drive12:10
_daI have both DVD and RW/Disc, which one do I use to listen to CDs?12:11
Karti_da: either should work12:11
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_daok, ty12:11
reuvhi, is there anyway to download php as a standalone program?12:12
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Kartireuv: http://www.php.net/downloads.php12:12
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Ace2016reuv: i guess you could download it and compile it and use --prefix=/opt/myphp/ or something like that12:13
su-hoens`rZKarti bleh yeah12:13
su-hoens`rZi thought my bios supported raid, but apparently it doesn't.... it's super weird tbh i've never seen anything like it12:13
reuvok, i was hoping they already had it in one of the repositories12:13
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Kartisu-hoens`rZ: have you raided them already? or are you trying to raid them with Kubuntu prior to install?12:14
Ace2016su-hoens`rZ: well it depends on fake raid or real raid, http://linux-ata.org/faq-sata-raid.html12:14
su-hoens`rZKarti i'm trying to raid them12:14
Assiderr.. whats the command for having the kmenu update itself?12:15
_daKarti, what part of the country are you from ,just curious12:15
su-hoens`rZAce2016 well i haven't done any raiding on the bios side at all12:15
su-hoens`rZi'm just trying to get my drives recognized, which they are in bios and normal cd, but not in the alt cd12:15
Kartiat the moment I'm near Devizes12:15
_dais that near Boston?12:15

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