[03:37] <nrayever> hi to everyone
[03:37] <nrayever> i'm having some problems with edubuntu
[03:38] <nrayever> dhcp server is not working and always says "fail"
[03:38] <nrayever> can anyone help me?
[03:40] <nrayever> somebody??
[03:42] <Burgundavia> nrayever: your dhcp server is not starting?
[03:42] <nrayever> that's right burgundavia
[03:42] <nrayever> it doesn't start
[03:43] <nrayever> the server has a fresh edubuntu server install
[03:43] <Burgundavia> you need to make certain you have one of your NICs set to a static address and the dhcp lease information needs to be on the same subnet
[03:44] <nrayever> i just modified the /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
[03:44] <nrayever> mmmmm, ok maybe that's the problem
[03:44] <nrayever> i haven't set a static ip for the nic
[03:47] <bddebian> Heya
[03:49] <nrayever> i have set a static ip (10.0.0.1) and the same subnet (255.255.255.0)
[03:50] <nrayever> what else i need to do?
[03:50] <Burgundavia> nrayever: you need to set the lease range on the dhcp server
[03:50] <Burgundavia> hey bddebian, jsgotangco
[03:51] <bddebian> Hi Burgundavia
[04:42] <nrayever> thanks burgundavia!!
[04:42] <nrayever> it worked!
[04:42] <nrayever> i just need to restart, but the hole server! xD
[04:43] <Burgundavia> hmm
[04:43] <nrayever> now i just need to copy what i have in the floppy to a small cf card that i'm using as a boot hd
[04:45] <nrayever> i read somewhere on the web that i can do it, i just need a live cd and make a cat to the hd
[04:49] <nrayever> so burgundavia what do you think?? can it be possible??
[04:50] <Burgundavia> your thin clients cannot network boot?
[04:55] <nrayever> the problem is that i had disable the mobo's nic and installed a pci 1 gb nic
[04:56] <nrayever> chipset realteck 8169
[04:56] <nrayever> is there any way that the bios could boot that nic??
[05:01] <nrayever> i did that because mobo's onboard nic was just 10/100 mb
[05:02] <nrayever> so i prefered to buy some 1gb nic's for this specific use
[05:03] <nrayever> the network would be less loaded than using 10/100 nic
[05:03] <nrayever> don't you think?
[05:11] <nahka> so having trouble with the adsl modem, in windows its connected by usb, but edubuntu doesn't support that
[05:11] <nahka> I tried connecting with ethernet but it didn't work either\
[05:12] <Burgundavia> nahka: I feel your pain
[05:12] <Burgundavia> there is no easy solution
[05:12] <Burgundavia> what is the brand name?
[05:12] <nrayever> thanks guys
[05:12] <nrayever> bye bye!
[05:12] <nahka> netopia
[05:36] <sbalneav> Evening all
[05:37] <LaserJock> hi sbalneav
[05:37] <sbalneav> Hey LaserJock
[05:38] <sbalneav> How's it going?
[05:39] <LaserJock> oh, it's going
[05:40] <sbalneav> Sorry, I missed the meeting yesterday.  Anything interesting happen?
[05:41] <LaserJock> hmm
[05:41] <LaserJock> sorta
[05:41] <LaserJock> ogra gave us his usual update, rockin as always
[05:41] <LaserJock> my Addon CD enhancements are almost done
[05:42] <LaserJock> and a new person wants to help with artwork
[05:42] <LaserJock> and then we wandered back over here and discussed RichEd's proposal to split up the meetings a bit
[05:42] <sbalneav> Well, that's good news.
[05:42] <LaserJock> to make them more user-friendly
[05:42] <sbalneav> The artwork
[05:45] <sbalneav> Well, I just dusted off some old shell code of mine, and hopefully answered everyone's questions about assigning printers by mac.
[05:50] <LaserJock> sbalneav: sweet
[11:07] <stgraber> ogra: I sent a mail to Pete yesterday about the work I'm currently doing on TCM (well on a fork locally but the goal is to merge my work with TCM), you can have a look here if you want : http://www.stgraber.org/tcm1.png
[11:07] <stgraber> argh, http://www.stgraber.org/download/tcm1.png
[11:08] <ogra> sweet
[11:08] <ogra> are you really running this many clients ?
[11:08] <ogra> or is that a mockup
[11:08] <stgraber> nope, I've done a simulation function giving a similar array as the one provided by the tcm functions
[11:09] <ogra> ah
[11:09] <stgraber> it's using screenshots instead of resized VNC to avoid the crash, memory problem, ... we currently have with TCM
[11:10] <stgraber> but I'll need to find a way to generate the screenshots on the thin clients themselves and then push them to the server (so we don't use server CPU to take them)
[11:11] <stgraber> VNC is only used when you want to take the control (double-click on the client) or switch to demo mode
[11:11] <stgraber> also an advantage of the iconview is that you can select multiple clients at once and then launch a software or send a message on that selection of client
[11:15] <ogra> tried xwd ?
[11:17] <stgraber> nope, currently using "scrot" but having 10 computers doing screenshots every 5s is taking a lot of CPU on the server (only 1.5Ghz ...)
[11:19] <ogra> why is that ?
[11:19] <ogra> the load should be on the client
[11:21] <stgraber> yes, it should but I don't have a way to retrieve the screenshots from the client yet
[11:21] <stgraber> (nfs seems overkill for that ...)
[11:23] <ogra> you could add a TCM user :) and scp
[11:24] <stgraber> hmm, I'm not sure having 7 ssh connections every 5s is that better than scrot running every 5s :)
[11:26] <ogra> well, why do you need 5 second updates anywa
[11:26] <ogra> y
[11:26] <ogra> 20second wuld suffice /me thinks
[11:27] <ogra> and you need a way to suppress clients .....
[11:27] <ogra> thats mainly why vnc isnt on by default in TCM atm
[11:27] <ogra> what happens in a netwrok with 200 thin clients (i.e. with  cluster as wever)
[11:27] <ogra> *server
[11:29] <stgraber> what do you mean by "suppress clients" ?
[11:32] <ogra> well, if oyu have 200 clients you surely dont want to pull them all
[11:33] <ogra> you need grouping for them or something like that ....
[11:33] <ogra> so the porggy only polls n of them at once
[11:33] <ogra> else you will make your network die
[11:35] <stgraber> my goal is to have 128x128 screenshot generated on thin clients, then pushed to a dir on the server
[11:35] <ogra> well
[11:35] <stgraber> and then the GUI simply shows them (if you filter you'll only see the one corresponding to the filter)
[11:36] <ogra> try it :)
[11:37] <stgraber> the only load problem would be the upload of the screenshots from the clients to the server (but shouldn't be that BW expensive with a 128x128 png file)
[11:37] <stgraber> then I can refresh 32 icons every 2s with only a cpu load of 1% (ok I'm using a core2duo)
[11:38] <ogra> right that could work
[11:39] <stgraber> something that'd also be a good idea to implement for Gutsy+1 is to have some kind of daemon running on the thin clients themselves so we can remotely run commands on them (shutdown, start a VNCviewer on another X server, ...)
[11:39] <ogra> ldm2 should solve that
[11:40] <ogra> we can just poll stuff on the server
[11:40] <ogra> i.e. a socket
[11:40] <ogra> its a tiny script we need for the client side ...
[11:41] <ogra> and only some hacks to hal to make i.e. shutdown from the logout dialog availabe
[11:41] <stgraber> would be great
[11:41] <stgraber> ldm2 is really a big improvment
[11:42] <ogra> ldm2 brings a ton of opportunities
[11:42] <ogra> having the static tunnel opens up a great communication layer
[11:50] <juliux> stgraber, how is your experinces with the core2duo as a ltsp server?
[11:52] <stgraber> juliux: the core2duo is my personal laptop I use for coding, I don't have the ltsp server on it
[11:53] <juliux> stgraber, ah ok
[11:57] <juliux> because my core2duo ltsp server was very slow
[11:57] <juliux> the pentium D was much better
[12:03] <ogra> stgraber, sudo apt-get install netpbm
[12:03] <ogra> xwd -root -silent |xwdtopnm|pnmscale -width 100 -height 75|pnmtopng >/tmp/out.png
[12:03] <ogra> produces a 7k big screenshot
[12:05] <stgraber> great
[12:10] <mindjuju> anybody here know how to get past "BIOS age (1999) cutoff (2000)," error?  I've tried half a dozen strings when trying to install edubuntu, but can't seem to get anywhere.  the strings that I googled and found were acpi=force | noapic acpi=off.  the second one doesn't throw an error, and it flashes an edubuntu splash for a minute then goes to blinking cursor for at least 10 minutes.  I have updated my BIOS to the latest that lenovo
[12:26] <mindjuju> anybody have an idea?
[12:46] <ogra> stgraber, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32355/
[12:46] <ogra> wil only work on ldm2 in gutsy thogh ... and could need the IP for the image name
[12:49] <stgraber> ogra: oh, great thank you. Putting that somewhere and will test once back home
[12:52] <ogra> stgraber, if you generate two of them (one double sized) you can easily have a "zoom on mouse over" effect
[12:58] <stgraber> ogra: oh, that's an idea yes
[12:59] <ogra> heh, putting that in an empty dir makes nautilus already a nice preview tool :)
[01:07] <stgraber> :)
[01:17] <pips1> ogra, the ubuntu-meeting logs seem to have stopped working since 2007-07-26. do you know anything about it?
[01:17] <pips1> I wanted to read up on the last edubunt meeting...
[01:18] <pips1> e.g. http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ubuntu-meeting-2007-08-01.html - just a blank page
[01:34] <mindjuju> i'm trying to install edubuntu 7.04 desktop and it stops doing anything after squashfs: version 3.2  any ideas on what i could do?
[01:41] <cliebow> mindjuju, ogra is around somewhere..ill take a wild stupid gues and ask if inetd is running anything for nbd..nbd root?
[01:42] <mindjuju> i'm not sure.  This is first time running ebubuntu.  the laptop previously had windows 2000 and has built in dvd rom
[03:20] <mindjuju> ogra , you around?
[03:24] <boxrock> can someone tell me how i play a wav file from shell? i get "oss_audio: failed to open audio device /dev/dsp" from flite
[09:59] <LaserJock> is anybody around who was at the last Edubuntu meeting?