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| maix | hi, is there an easy way to find get the title of a launchpad bug? (other than parsing the whole page) | 12:25 |
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| maix | for example is there something like "get raw text" in a wiki | 12:25 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 12:26 |
| maix | where? ;) | 12:26 |
| LaserJock | I gotta find it, gimme a sec | 12:28 |
| maix | kk | 12:30 |
| LaserJock | hmm, where did it go | 12:32 |
| beuno | maix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/26419/+text | 12:32 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 26419 in gnome-session "gnome-session hangs when "lo" is not correctly configured" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sebastien Bacher (seb128) | 12:32 |
| LaserJock | that's weird | 12:32 |
| beuno | that gives you the bug info en text format | 12:32 |
| maix | beuno, thx | 12:32 |
| beuno | maix: np | 12:32 |
| LaserJock | hmm, there must be a bug or something | 12:33 |
| beuno | LaserJock: what? | 12:33 |
| maix | can i be sure that it doesn't change and the title will always be in the second line? | 12:33 |
| LaserJock | I suppose | 12:33 |
| ajmitch | hello LaserJock | 12:33 |
| LaserJock | beuno: it doesn't always work | 12:33 |
| beuno | maix: yes, but the second block changes when there are upstream bugs associated | 12:33 |
| beuno | LaserJock: what do you mean? in what cases? | 12:34 |
| LaserJock | beuno: like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/26419/+text | 12:34 |
| beuno | the only case I know it doesn't wotk is with rpviate bugs | 12:34 |
| beuno | LaserJock: you have to build the URL different | 12:34 |
| LaserJock | beuno: that's my point | 12:34 |
| LaserJock | you shouldn't have to | 12:34 |
| LaserJock | it shouldn't depend on which url you use to get to the bug | 12:34 |
| beuno | LaserJock: right, that sounds like a bug/wishlist Launchpad is waiting to have :D | 12:35 |
| LaserJock | yep | 12:35 |
| maix | i always have the number | 12:36 |
| maix | oh wait which prefix do i use then? | 12:36 |
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| LaserJock | maix: just do bug.launchpad.net/bugs/<bug number>/+text | 12:36 |
| maix | bugs.launchpad.net... ? | 12:37 |
| LaserJock | bugs.launchpad rather | 12:37 |
| maix | ;) | 12:37 |
| maix | LaserJock, kk thx | 12:37 |
| maix | and for the link without text and - yes ist forwards me. ok | 12:37 |
| maix | (its for a [bug] tag in a forum) | 12:37 |
| beuno | maix: make sure you use that wisely, if the forum is big enough, you can annoy Launchpad maintainers pretty quickly :D | 12:38 |
| maix | no, its just called once, when the text is written in the database, not at every call. | 12:39 |
| maix | would be too much work for our server too ;) | 12:39 |
| beuno | maix: great :D | 12:39 |
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| LaserJock | hi ajmitch | 12:40 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #130051 in malone "+text doesn't work for full bug URL" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130051 | 12:56 |
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| gdoubleu | I would love to hear some developers' opinions on using launchpad as a project tracker compared to trac | 03:51 |
| gdoubleu | as far as communication, efficiency, etc. | 03:51 |
| gdoubleu | I've worked on several projects using trac, but have been recently introduced to bzr and launchpad | 03:52 |
| jamesh | gdoubleu: Launchpad's bug tracker actually sends emails to people filing bugs, which is nice | 04:46 |
| gdoubleu | jamesh: trac does as well | 04:47 |
| jamesh | gdoubleu: really? I don't think I've ever been notified of changes to bugs I've filed in Trac instances | 04:47 |
| gdoubleu | jamesh: it's a configuration option that I think might be off by default | 04:48 |
| jamesh | gdoubleu: okay. | 04:49 |
| jamesh | gdoubleu: there are a number of things Launchpad does that Trac doesn't, such as translation and blueprint (specification) management | 04:56 |
| jamesh | I don't know how important those are to you though. | 04:56 |
| jamesh | Also, there are network effects. Launchpad lets you attach a bug to multiple contexts (e.g. your project and the packaging of your project in Ubuntu) | 04:57 |
| jamesh | so having the two in Launchpad can make life easier. | 04:57 |
| gdoubleu | Yes, I really like how you can tie everything together, I can definitely see how there would be advantages with multiple projects in launchpad | 05:01 |
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| carlos | morning | 08:44 |
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| === Topic for #launchpad: Launchpad - https://launchpad.net/ | Next developer meeting: Thu 9 Aug 2007, 1400UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Launchpad help: https://help.launchpad.net | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39 | ||
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| cprov | good morning ! | 10:20 |
| Fujitsu | Hi cprov. | 10:22 |
| cprov | Fujitsu: hi | 10:23 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #130138 in rosetta "Allow translations imported for 'restricted' pocket" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130138 | 01:40 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #130143 in soyuz "Initialise From Parent needs some love when multiple distro archives is done" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130143 | 02:11 |
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| kiko | hey Hobbsee | 02:15 |
| Hobbsee | heya kiko! | 02:15 |
| Hobbsee | how's it going? | 02:15 |
| kiko | Hobbsee, pretty good. you do some universe queue administration, right? | 02:15 |
| kiko | (or is that a long-standing bug and I should shut up now?) | 02:16 |
| Hobbsee | kiko: i do, yes | 02:16 |
| kiko | so the new queue UI is live: | 02:16 |
| kiko | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue | 02:16 |
| kiko | Hobbsee, you can now inspect packages directly | 02:16 |
| Hobbsee | kiko: oh, not that type of queue stuff. but that could come in handy ;) | 02:16 |
| kiko | oh | 02:17 |
| kiko | well.. | 02:17 |
| kiko | :) | 02:17 |
| Fujitsu | Oh, shiny. | 02:17 |
| kiko | does anyone do that for the universe queue? | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | kiko: how clever! | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | kiko: yeah, the archive admins | 02:17 |
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| Hobbsee | kiko: i sponsor patches, but i dont deal with the new queue, at this point. | 02:18 |
| Hobbsee | kiko: I dont suppose there are plans to support dget? | 02:19 |
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| kiko | what's dget? | 02:20 |
| Fujitsu | librarian would have to be fairly well redesigned to do that, I believe. | 02:20 |
| Hobbsee | kiko: if you dget foo.dsc, it will also get foo.diff.gz, and foo_orig.tar.gz, basically | 02:20 |
| Hobbsee | there's more to it, and it's cleverer than that, but thta's the idea | 02:21 |
| kiko | hmmm | 02:21 |
| Fujitsu | However, librarian screws things up by putting everything in seperate directories. | 02:21 |
| Hobbsee | kiko: as in, if you feed it a link to the .dsc file, it'll read it, figure out what else of the source to download, and download that. | 02:21 |
| kiko | how does it guess the paths to the diff and tar? | 02:21 |
| Hobbsee | useful | 02:21 |
| Fujitsu | kiko: Everywhere else on the planet they're in one directory. | 02:21 |
| Hobbsee | well, it's fairly similar in name to the .dsc, of course - and in the same directory | 02:21 |
| Hobbsee | kiko: browsing the code for the specifics should help you there | 02:21 |
| Fujitsu | The name doesn't matter; it gets the files referenced by the .dsc | 02:22 |
| kiko | Fujitsu, but the path does matter, I see. we could fix that by providing a librarian wrapper for DSCs though. | 02:24 |
| Fujitsu | kiko: That would be nice. | 02:25 |
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| kiko | Fujitsu, can you file a bug and provide some information that gives us stepping stones to producing a good solution? | 02:26 |
| kiko | one question is where do you point dget to -- is it to a URL? | 02:26 |
| Fujitsu | dget http://url/to.dsc | 02:29 |
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| kiko | cool | 02:31 |
| Hobbsee | kiko: run dget <somewhere on the debian ftp server, found from packages.debian.org> | 02:32 |
| Fujitsu | kiko: launchpad or soyuz? | 02:37 |
| kiko | Fujitsu, soyuz | 02:37 |
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| cypherbios | cprov: how long a source package still with "Missing dependencies" status before being removed? (talking about PPA) | 02:41 |
| cprov | cypherbios: missing-deps are not removed automatically, they will stay there forever waiting deps to be satisfied | 02:42 |
| cprov | cypherbios: unless you upload a new source version | 02:42 |
| cypherbios | cprov: I see. I just did, let's wait then, thanks. | 02:43 |
| cprov | cypherbios: np | 02:43 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #130158 in soyuz "librarian should provide dgettable URLs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130158 | 02:56 |
| Hobbsee | oh yes, i said i was going to file a LP bug | 02:58 |
| cprov | ouch ... | 02:58 |
| Hobbsee | cprov: ouch to whihc? | 02:58 |
| cprov | Hobbsee: the bug | 02:59 |
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| Hobbsee | cprov: why's that ouch? | 03:00 |
| kiko | cprov, hang on | 03:00 |
| cprov | Hobbsee: makes me wonder 'how ?!', we would be better off betting our coins in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptFirefoxFileHandler | 03:00 |
| kiko | cprov, it's easy. | 03:01 |
| kiko | Fujitsu, Hobbsee: does dget handle 301s? | 03:01 |
| Hobbsee | kiko: i dont know what a 301 is :) | 03:01 |
| Fujitsu | kiko: good question. | 03:01 |
| Fujitsu | I'll check. | 03:01 |
| kiko | thanks | 03:01 |
| cprov | kiko: librarian has duplicated filenames and dsc only offers filenames, we can't disambiguate | 03:02 |
| kiko | cprov, I think you're thinking of this in the wrong direction | 03:02 |
| kiko | cprov, what I'm saying is that we can provide a virtual directory for a sourcepackagerelease | 03:02 |
| cprov | kiko: well, ok, we could include suite in the librarian redirection | 03:02 |
| Hobbsee | kiko: that's binaries. what dget is for sources. | 03:03 |
| Hobbsee | er, what dget is for *is* sources | 03:03 |
| Hobbsee | kiko: [23:02] <pitti> Hobbsee: that's awesome! | 03:03 |
| kiko | where did I say binaries? | 03:03 |
| Hobbsee | kiko: the firefox handler. as in, to install binaries and such | 03:03 |
| Hobbsee | kiko: dget is for grabbing one source from a location somewhere. not everything in a repository, and not binaries. | 03:04 |
| cprov | Hobbsee: I suggested firefox-apt-handler | 03:04 |
| Hobbsee | oh, sorry. cprov ^ | 03:04 |
| cprov | Hobbsee: to support sources, as well | 03:04 |
| Hobbsee | my bad, not really reading the lines | 03:04 |
| kiko | ANYWAY | 03:04 |
| cprov | ... | 03:04 |
| kiko | as I said, it's easy to do, I just want to know if dget supports 301s. | 03:04 |
| kiko | i.e. if each individual file it tries to pull can be redirected. | 03:05 |
| sep1318 | whenever you've got time, SteveA, we can talk about microIDs if you want. ::hassle:: | 03:05 |
| cprov | kiko: right, a url incluing distroseries/name/version/<file> would do. | 03:06 |
| kiko | right | 03:06 |
| kiko | I was thinking actually something like | 03:06 |
| kiko | +files | 03:06 |
| kiko | under the sourcepackagerelease | 03:06 |
| kiko | a directory that contained a virtual mapping of all the libraryfilealiases it uses | 03:06 |
| Kmos | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+files | 03:07 |
| Kmos | that would be nice | 03:07 |
| Kmos | :) | 03:07 |
| cprov | kiko: yep, can you comment the bug and sort priority for us ? | 03:10 |
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| kiko | Kmos, well, it'd have to be under +source/apport/3.1/+files | 03:11 |
| kiko | but other than that, yes | 03:11 |
| Kmos | :) | 03:12 |
| Kmos | kiko: that's more interesting :) | 03:12 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #130182 in launchpad "Account registration form should not crash when missing a element" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130182 | 03:50 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #130197 in launchpad "Timebomb in xx-maintenance-message.txt" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130197 | 05:40 |
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| kiko | Fujitsu, so, does it? | 06:03 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #130220 in launchpad "LP marks bugs fix released multiple times and sends multiple mails when a bug number appears in more than one .changes file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130220 | 07:50 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #130222 in launchpad "LP sends mail "From" me that I didn't originate" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130222 | 07:55 |
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| kiko-fud | matsubara, don't forget to dupe that bug up there | 08:54 |
| matsubara | which one kiko-fud ? | 08:56 |
| kiko-fud | https://launchpad.net/bugs/130222 | 08:56 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 130222 in launchpad "LP sends mail "From" me that I didn't originate" [Undecided,New] | 08:56 |
| matsubara | duped already | 08:56 |
| matsubara | hmm the reporter unduped it | 08:57 |
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| kiko-fud | oh, I see what it was matsubara | 09:04 |
| kiko-fud | Fujitsu_, so... | 09:05 |
| ScottK | Because it's not a dupe (the bug above - I'm the reporter). | 09:12 |
| kiko-fud | yeah | 09:20 |
| kiko-fud | ScottK, you're the reporter in this case, right? | 09:21 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 09:21 |
| kiko-fud | thanks. | 09:21 |
| kiko-fud | there's another case where this happens which is also broken. | 09:22 |
| ScottK | I don't particularly mind the bugmail having my address in it when I did something, it's the automated stuff appearing to be done by me that I don't mind. Particularly stuff like the one above (I also reported) where LP is fix releasing bugs that are already fix release. | 09:23 |
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| kiko-fud | matsubara, what's the other bug that complains about that same issue -- when we subscribe somebody else | 09:25 |
| matsubara | bug #94321, perhaps? | 09:27 |
| kiko-fud | no | 09:28 |
| kiko-fud | that's a dupe of it | 09:28 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 94321 in malone "status change email has wrong 'From'" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94321 | 09:28 |
| kiko-fud | I think | 09:28 |
| kiko-fud | oh, no, that's it yes. | 09:28 |
| kiko-fud | thanks ScottK | 09:29 |
| ScottK | No problem. | 09:29 |
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| kiko-fud | ScottK, these bugs were already fix released, right? | 09:30 |
| ScottK | One thougth for you on 94321 is the RFC 2822 does permit multiple From addressees as long as you have a Sender, which you do. | 09:30 |
| ScottK | Right. | 09:30 |
| ScottK | If you go look, there are now two automatic release comments in the bugs. | 09:30 |
| kiko-fud | sure thing. | 09:31 |
| ScottK | What happened was the Debian Maintainer left the LP bug numbers in his update and so when I requested the sync, LP parsed the changelog and didn't check to see if the bug was already fixed. | 09:31 |
| kiko-fud | yeah | 09:32 |
| kiko-fud | that's easy to fix. | 09:32 |
| ScottK | Cool. | 09:33 |
| ScottK | I'm curious about Bug #125279 that one bit me again today. | 09:33 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 125279 in soyuz "Publishing an update to *-proposed incorrectly marks bug "Fix Released"" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125279 - Assigned to Celso Providelo (cprov) | 09:33 |
| kiko-fud | it's almost ready | 09:34 |
| ScottK | That's the next release (Soyuz: 1.1.8)? | 09:34 |
| kiko-fud | yes | 09:35 |
| ScottK | OK. I'll be glad to see that one gone. | 09:35 |
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| kiko-afk | Fujitsu_, you no <3 me | 09:54 |
| ubotu | New bug: #130242 in launchpad "Output request counts and timing in launchpad.log application log" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130242 | 10:05 |
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| maix | hi | 10:11 |
| maix | may we use https://bugs.launchpad.net/@@/bug-medium in our forum? | 10:11 |
| maix | (to link to launchpad) | 10:11 |
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| maix | and is this icon also available in a bigger size? | 10:40 |
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| maix | doesn't anyone now? | 10:54 |
| LaserJock | I don't | 10:54 |
| maix | :( | 10:55 |
| salgado | maix, it's better to ask that on launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com | 10:59 |
| maix | salgado, ok, thx | 10:59 |
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| red | is there darcs support in Launchpad? | 12:02 |
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| LarstiQ | red: no | 12:03 |
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