=== maix [n=maix@i3ED6CDD7.versanet.de] has joined #launchpad [12:25] hi, is there an easy way to find get the title of a launchpad bug? (other than parsing the whole page) [12:25] for example is there something like "get raw text" in a wiki [12:26] yeah [12:26] where? ;) [12:28] I gotta find it, gimme a sec [12:30] kk [12:32] hmm, where did it go [12:32] maix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/26419/+text [12:32] Launchpad bug 26419 in gnome-session "gnome-session hangs when "lo" is not correctly configured" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sebastien Bacher (seb128) [12:32] that's weird [12:32] that gives you the bug info en text format [12:32] beuno, thx [12:32] maix: np [12:33] hmm, there must be a bug or something [12:33] LaserJock: what? [12:33] can i be sure that it doesn't change and the title will always be in the second line? [12:33] I suppose [12:33] hello LaserJock [12:33] beuno: it doesn't always work [12:33] maix: yes, but the second block changes when there are upstream bugs associated [12:34] LaserJock: what do you mean? in what cases? [12:34] beuno: like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/26419/+text [12:34] the only case I know it doesn't wotk is with rpviate bugs [12:34] LaserJock: you have to build the URL different [12:34] beuno: that's my point [12:34] you shouldn't have to [12:34] it shouldn't depend on which url you use to get to the bug [12:35] LaserJock: right, that sounds like a bug/wishlist Launchpad is waiting to have :D [12:35] yep [12:36] i always have the number [12:36] oh wait which prefix do i use then? === fernando1 [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-565359c70e16e66f] has joined #launchpad [12:36] maix: just do bug.launchpad.net/bugs//+text [12:37] bugs.launchpad.net... ? [12:37] bugs.launchpad rather [12:37] ;) [12:37] LaserJock, kk thx [12:37] and for the link without text and - yes ist forwards me. ok [12:37] (its for a [bug] tag in a forum) [12:38] maix: make sure you use that wisely, if the forum is big enough, you can annoy Launchpad maintainers pretty quickly :D [12:39] no, its just called once, when the text is written in the database, not at every call. [12:39] would be too much work for our server too ;) [12:39] maix: great :D === mthaddon [n=mthaddon@canonical/launchpad/mthaddon] has joined #launchpad === diocles [i=retout@fsf/member/diocles] has left #launchpad [] [12:40] hi ajmitch === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-122-108.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #launchpad [12:56] New bug: #130051 in malone "+text doesn't work for full bug URL" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130051 === maix [n=maix@i3ED6CDD7.versanet.de] has left #launchpad ["undberhaupt"] === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-217-216.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === Prognatus__ [n=irc@201.80-202-51.nextgentel.com] has joined #launchpad === Prognatus__ is now known as Prognatus === merriam__ [n=merriam@82-133-115-120.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #launchpad === iwj [n=ian@213.165.225.135] has joined #launchpad === Prognatus__ [n=irc@201.80-202-51.nextgentel.com] has joined #launchpad === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #launchpad === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === vlug [n=irc@201.80-202-51.nextgentel.com] has joined #launchpad === vlug is now known as Prognatus === gdoubleu [n=gdoubleu@adsl-70-240-15-171.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #launchpad [03:51] I would love to hear some developers' opinions on using launchpad as a project tracker compared to trac [03:51] as far as communication, efficiency, etc. [03:52] I've worked on several projects using trac, but have been recently introduced to bzr and launchpad [04:46] gdoubleu: Launchpad's bug tracker actually sends emails to people filing bugs, which is nice [04:47] jamesh: trac does as well [04:47] gdoubleu: really? I don't think I've ever been notified of changes to bugs I've filed in Trac instances [04:48] jamesh: it's a configuration option that I think might be off by default [04:49] gdoubleu: okay. [04:56] gdoubleu: there are a number of things Launchpad does that Trac doesn't, such as translation and blueprint (specification) management [04:56] I don't know how important those are to you though. [04:57] Also, there are network effects. Launchpad lets you attach a bug to multiple contexts (e.g. your project and the packaging of your project in Ubuntu) [04:57] so having the two in Launchpad can make life easier. [05:01] Yes, I really like how you can tie everything together, I can definitely see how there would be advantages with multiple projects in launchpad === cprov is now known as cprov-ZzZ === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #launchpad === who_cares [n=cameron@71-12-166-197.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.16.11.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === jtv [n=jtv@125-24-221-180.adsl.totbb.net] has joined #launchpad === fernando1 [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-329dd2e2896ed4d3] has joined #launchpad === ICU [n=me@sechzig.dd.ewetel.de] has joined #launchpad === iwj [n=ian@213.165.225.135] has joined #launchpad === carlos [n=carlos@canonical/launchpad/carlos] has joined #launchpad [08:44] morning === beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #launchpad === allenap [n=allenap@212.233.38.164] has joined #launchpad === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #launchpad === shawn__ [n=shawn@adsl-70-231-227-173.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has joined #launchpad === Starting logfile irclogs/launchpad.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #launchpad === Topic for #launchpad: Launchpad - https://launchpad.net/ | Next developer meeting: Thu 9 Aug 2007, 1400UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Launchpad help: https://help.launchpad.net | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39 === Topic (#launchpad): set by mpt at Thu Aug 2 16:04:59 2007 === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #launchpad === harrisony [n=harrison@unaffiliated/harrisony] has joined #launchpad === mrevell [n=matthew@canonical/launchpad/mrevell] has joined #launchpad === gmb [n=gmb@i-83-67-5-113.freedom2surf.net] has joined #launchpad === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #launchpad === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@mue-88-130-99-153.dsl.tropolys.de] has joined #launchpad === cprov-ZzZ is now known as cprov [10:20] good morning ! [10:22] Hi cprov. [10:23] Fujitsu: hi === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #launchpad === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #launchpad === schwuk [n=dave@ubuntu/member/schwuk] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === Nafallo_ [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #launchpad === Nafallo_ is now known as Nafallo === intellectronica [i=intellec@nat/canonical/x-8cdd21c71057ea6b] has joined #launchpad === carlos [n=carlos@canonical/launchpad/carlos] has joined #launchpad === tokj [n=tk@unaffiliated/tokj] has joined #launchpad === brylie [n=brylie@CPE-75-81-97-106.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #launchpad === kompressor [n=kompress@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #launchpad === mholthaus_ [n=mholthau@johnny33.dersbach.ch] has joined #launchpad === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #launchpad === doko_ is now known as doko === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #launchpad === dneary [n=dneary@251.9.39-62.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #launchpad === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@200-193-158-29.ctame705.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #launchpad === gmb is now known as gmb-afk === Spads [i=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #launchpad === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #launchpad === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.1] has joined #launchpad [01:40] New bug: #130138 in rosetta "Allow translations imported for 'restricted' pocket" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130138 === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #launchpad === statik [n=emurphy@canonical/launchpad/statik] has joined #launchpad === [PUPPETS] Gonzo [i=gonzo@80.69.47.16] has joined #launchpad === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #launchpad === kiko-afk is now known as kiko === mranostay_work [n=mranosta@cpe-088197.static.wadsnet.net] has joined #launchpad [02:11] New bug: #130143 in soyuz "Initialise From Parent needs some love when multiple distro archives is done" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130143 === matsubara [n=matsubar@canonical/launchpad/matsubara] has joined #launchpad [02:15] hey Hobbsee [02:15] heya kiko! [02:15] how's it going? [02:15] Hobbsee, pretty good. you do some universe queue administration, right? [02:16] (or is that a long-standing bug and I should shut up now?) [02:16] kiko: i do, yes [02:16] so the new queue UI is live: [02:16] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue [02:16] Hobbsee, you can now inspect packages directly [02:16] kiko: oh, not that type of queue stuff. but that could come in handy ;) [02:17] oh [02:17] well.. [02:17] :) [02:17] Oh, shiny. [02:17] does anyone do that for the universe queue? [02:17] kiko: how clever! [02:17] kiko: yeah, the archive admins === Hobbsee pokes one of them [02:18] kiko: i sponsor patches, but i dont deal with the new queue, at this point. [02:19] kiko: I dont suppose there are plans to support dget? === sep1318 [n=Webdev@unaffiliated/sep1318] has joined #launchpad [02:20] what's dget? [02:20] librarian would have to be fairly well redesigned to do that, I believe. [02:20] kiko: if you dget foo.dsc, it will also get foo.diff.gz, and foo_orig.tar.gz, basically [02:21] there's more to it, and it's cleverer than that, but thta's the idea [02:21] hmmm [02:21] However, librarian screws things up by putting everything in seperate directories. [02:21] kiko: as in, if you feed it a link to the .dsc file, it'll read it, figure out what else of the source to download, and download that. [02:21] how does it guess the paths to the diff and tar? [02:21] useful [02:21] kiko: Everywhere else on the planet they're in one directory. [02:21] well, it's fairly similar in name to the .dsc, of course - and in the same directory [02:21] kiko: browsing the code for the specifics should help you there [02:22] The name doesn't matter; it gets the files referenced by the .dsc [02:24] Fujitsu, but the path does matter, I see. we could fix that by providing a librarian wrapper for DSCs though. [02:25] kiko: That would be nice. === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #launchpad [02:26] Fujitsu, can you file a bug and provide some information that gives us stepping stones to producing a good solution? [02:26] one question is where do you point dget to -- is it to a URL? [02:29] dget http://url/to.dsc === Fujitsu files a bug. [02:31] cool [02:32] kiko: run dget [02:37] kiko: launchpad or soyuz? [02:37] Fujitsu, soyuz === statik [n=emurphy@canonical/launchpad/statik] has joined #launchpad === ddaa [n=david@canonical/launchpad/ddaa] has joined #launchpad [02:41] cprov: how long a source package still with "Missing dependencies" status before being removed? (talking about PPA) [02:42] cypherbios: missing-deps are not removed automatically, they will stay there forever waiting deps to be satisfied [02:42] cypherbios: unless you upload a new source version [02:43] cprov: I see. I just did, let's wait then, thanks. [02:43] cypherbios: np === gmb-afk is now known as gmb === radhios [n=radhios@96-208-126-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #launchpad [02:56] New bug: #130158 in soyuz "librarian should provide dgettable URLs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130158 [02:58] oh yes, i said i was going to file a LP bug [02:58] ouch ... [02:58] cprov: ouch to whihc? [02:59] Hobbsee: the bug === Hobbsee waits for said bug to load [03:00] cprov: why's that ouch? [03:00] cprov, hang on [03:00] Hobbsee: makes me wonder 'how ?!', we would be better off betting our coins in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptFirefoxFileHandler [03:01] cprov, it's easy. [03:01] Fujitsu, Hobbsee: does dget handle 301s? [03:01] kiko: i dont know what a 301 is :) [03:01] kiko: good question. [03:01] I'll check. [03:01] thanks [03:02] kiko: librarian has duplicated filenames and dsc only offers filenames, we can't disambiguate [03:02] cprov, I think you're thinking of this in the wrong direction [03:02] cprov, what I'm saying is that we can provide a virtual directory for a sourcepackagerelease [03:02] kiko: well, ok, we could include suite in the librarian redirection [03:03] kiko: that's binaries. what dget is for sources. [03:03] er, what dget is for *is* sources [03:03] kiko: [23:02] Hobbsee: that's awesome! [03:03] where did I say binaries? [03:03] kiko: the firefox handler. as in, to install binaries and such [03:04] kiko: dget is for grabbing one source from a location somewhere. not everything in a repository, and not binaries. [03:04] Hobbsee: I suggested firefox-apt-handler [03:04] oh, sorry. cprov ^ [03:04] Hobbsee: to support sources, as well [03:04] my bad, not really reading the lines [03:04] ANYWAY [03:04] ... [03:04] as I said, it's easy to do, I just want to know if dget supports 301s. [03:05] i.e. if each individual file it tries to pull can be redirected. [03:05] whenever you've got time, SteveA, we can talk about microIDs if you want. ::hassle:: [03:06] kiko: right, a url incluing distroseries/name/version/ would do. [03:06] right [03:06] I was thinking actually something like [03:06] +files [03:06] under the sourcepackagerelease [03:06] a directory that contained a virtual mapping of all the libraryfilealiases it uses [03:07] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+files [03:07] that would be nice [03:07] :) [03:10] kiko: yep, can you comment the bug and sort priority for us ? === cprov goes back to code === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #launchpad [03:11] Kmos, well, it'd have to be under +source/apport/3.1/+files [03:11] but other than that, yes [03:12] :) [03:12] kiko: that's more interesting :) === schwuk [n=dave@ubuntu/member/schwuk] has joined #launchpad === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@mue-88-130-82-173.dsl.tropolys.de] has joined #launchpad === OgMaciel [n=omaciel@foresight/developer/OgMaciel] has joined #launchpad === carlos [n=carlos@canonical/launchpad/carlos] has joined #launchpad === Rinchen [n=joey@canonical/launchpad/rinchen] has joined #launchpad === iwj [n=ian@33.6.169.217.in-addr.arpa] has joined #launchpad === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #launchpad === salgado [n=salgado@canonical/launchpad/salgado] has joined #launchpad === statik [n=emurphy@189.66.188.72.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #launchpad === mthaddon [n=mthaddon@canonical/launchpad/mthaddon] has joined #launchpad [03:50] New bug: #130182 in launchpad "Account registration form should not crash when missing a element" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130182 === iwj [n=ian@33.6.169.217.in-addr.arpa] has joined #launchpad === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@242-24.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #launchpad === pcardune [n=pcardune@75-165-142-82.spkn.qwest.net] has joined #launchpad === juliux_ [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #launchpad === RainCT [n=RainCT@unaffiliated/rainct] has joined #launchpad === RainCT [n=RainCT@unaffiliated/rainct] has left #launchpad ["Leaving."] === salgado [n=salgado@canonical/launchpad/salgado] has joined #launchpad === _mholthaus [n=mholthau@johnny33.dersbach.ch] has joined #launchpad === Adri2000_ [n=adri2000@ubuntu/member/adri2000] has joined #launchpad === Adri2000_ is now known as Adri2000 === gmb [n=gmb@i-83-67-5-113.freedom2surf.net] has joined #launchpad === cprov is now known as cprov-lunch === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #launchpad === gmb [n=gmb@i-83-67-5-113.freedom2surf.net] has joined #launchpad [05:40] New bug: #130197 in launchpad "Timebomb in xx-maintenance-message.txt" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130197 === statik_ [n=emurphy@32.132.111.238] has joined #launchpad === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #launchpad [06:03] Fujitsu, so, does it? === cprov-lunch is now known as cprov === stgraber [n=stgraber@dakara.stgraber.org] has joined #launchpad === mtaylor [n=mtaylor@dsl231-061-195.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #launchpad === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-122-108.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #launchpad === kiko is now known as kiko-fud === gmb is now known as gmb-afk === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #launchpad === Adri2000 [n=adri2000@f0017-1-88-165-188-51.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad === sep1318 hassles SteveA about microIDs === ScottK [n=ScottK@ubuntu/member/scottk] has joined #launchpad === pcardune [n=pcardune@75-165-142-82.spkn.qwest.net] has joined #launchpad === sherki1 [n=mich@brc29-1-82-245-192-44.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad [07:50] New bug: #130220 in launchpad "LP marks bugs fix released multiple times and sends multiple mails when a bug number appears in more than one .changes file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130220 === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #launchpad [07:55] New bug: #130222 in launchpad "LP sends mail "From" me that I didn't originate" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130222 === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #launchpad === beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #launchpad === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara === cprov is now known as cprov-ZzZ === xerosis [n=kieran@87-194-247-206.bethere.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === Spads [n=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #launchpad === gianmt [n=ubuntu@host155-162-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #launchpad [08:54] matsubara, don't forget to dupe that bug up there [08:56] which one kiko-fud ? [08:56] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130222 [08:56] Launchpad bug 130222 in launchpad "LP sends mail "From" me that I didn't originate" [Undecided,New] [08:56] duped already [08:57] hmm the reporter unduped it === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #launchpad === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #launchpad === AlexLatchford [n=alex@82-44-193-109.cable.ubr07.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === Fujitsu_ [n=fujitsu@202.61.173.33] has joined #launchpad [09:04] oh, I see what it was matsubara [09:05] Fujitsu_, so... [09:12] Because it's not a dupe (the bug above - I'm the reporter). [09:20] yeah [09:21] ScottK, you're the reporter in this case, right? [09:21] Yes. [09:21] thanks. [09:22] there's another case where this happens which is also broken. [09:23] I don't particularly mind the bugmail having my address in it when I did something, it's the automated stuff appearing to be done by me that I don't mind. Particularly stuff like the one above (I also reported) where LP is fix releasing bugs that are already fix release. === danilos [n=danilo@adsl-236-193.eunet.yu] has joined #launchpad [09:25] matsubara, what's the other bug that complains about that same issue -- when we subscribe somebody else [09:27] bug #94321, perhaps? [09:28] no [09:28] that's a dupe of it [09:28] Launchpad bug 94321 in malone "status change email has wrong 'From'" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94321 [09:28] I think [09:28] oh, no, that's it yes. [09:29] thanks ScottK [09:29] No problem. === statik [n=emurphy@189.66.188.72.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #launchpad [09:30] ScottK, these bugs were already fix released, right? [09:30] One thougth for you on 94321 is the RFC 2822 does permit multiple From addressees as long as you have a Sender, which you do. [09:30] Right. [09:30] If you go look, there are now two automatic release comments in the bugs. [09:31] sure thing. [09:31] What happened was the Debian Maintainer left the LP bug numbers in his update and so when I requested the sync, LP parsed the changelog and didn't check to see if the bug was already fixed. [09:32] yeah [09:32] that's easy to fix. [09:33] Cool. [09:33] I'm curious about Bug #125279 that one bit me again today. [09:33] Launchpad bug 125279 in soyuz "Publishing an update to *-proposed incorrectly marks bug "Fix Released"" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125279 - Assigned to Celso Providelo (cprov) [09:34] it's almost ready [09:34] That's the next release (Soyuz: 1.1.8)? [09:35] yes [09:35] OK. I'll be glad to see that one gone. === kiko-fud is now known as kiko-afk [09:54] Fujitsu_, you no <3 me [10:05] New bug: #130242 in launchpad "Output request counts and timing in launchpad.log application log" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130242 === maix [n=maix@i3ED6D034.versanet.de] has joined #launchpad [10:11] hi [10:11] may we use https://bugs.launchpad.net/@@/bug-medium in our forum? [10:11] (to link to launchpad) === sep1318 [n=Webdev@unaffiliated/sep1318] has left #launchpad [] === kompressor [n=kompress@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #launchpad === kompressor [n=kompress@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #launchpad [10:40] and is this icon also available in a bigger size? === beuno_ [n=martin@44-111-231-201.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #launchpad === beuno_ is now known as beuno [10:54] doesn't anyone now? [10:54] I don't [10:55] :( [10:59] maix, it's better to ask that on launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com [10:59] salgado, ok, thx === logan-koester is now known as logankoester === tokj [n=me@unaffiliated/tokj] has joined #launchpad === jsk_ [n=jonathan@client-82-20-18-165.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #launchpad === wasabi [n=wasabi@ubuntu/member/wasabi] has joined #launchpad === sherki1 [n=mich@brc29-1-82-245-192-44.fbx.proxad.net] has left #launchpad [] === matsubara [n=matsubar@canonical/launchpad/matsubara] has joined #launchpad === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #launchpad === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #launchpad === lbm [n=lbm@0x555373ab.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #launchpad === jsk__ [n=jonathan@client-82-2-115-76.brnt.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #launchpad === red [n=openedu@DNab4221c8.Stanford.EDU] has joined #launchpad [12:02] is there darcs support in Launchpad? === shawn__ [n=shawn@adsl-67-124-150-9.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #launchpad [12:03] red: no === pcardune [n=pcardune@75-165-142-82.spkn.qwest.net] has joined #launchpad === ScottK [n=ScottK@ubuntu/member/scottk] has left #launchpad ["Konversation]