[12:35] Which version of KDE will come with kubuntu Gutsy? === theoros [n=theoros@unaffiliated/theoros] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:36] 3.5 i guess, and later 4 packages [12:36] When does KDE 4 come out? === J-Wreck [n=J-Wreck@ool-44c4405e.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === databuddy [n=starz@unaffiliated/databuddy] has joined #ubuntu+1 === J-Wreck [n=J-Wreck@ool-44c4405e.dyn.optonline.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] [12:39] 23 oktober [12:39] beta 1 is just out === Dana1 [n=DanaG@adsl-66-122-66-78.dsl.anhm01.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [12:41] October 23, 2007: Targeted Release Date for KDE 4.0 === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-59-116.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === xnix [n=xnix@n157s046.ntc.blacksburg.shentel.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@adsl-66-122-66-78.dsl.anhm01.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rockets_ [n=rockets@cpe-74-64-1-72.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === databuddy [n=starz@unaffiliated/databuddy] has joined #ubuntu+1 === onechard [n=chard@ip68-98-192-143.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === PWill [n=paul@unaffiliated/pwill] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mrigns [n=mrigns@unaffiliated/mrigns] has joined #ubuntu+1 === NigelS [i=nigel@xdev.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === masquerade [n=mirashii@c-71-200-21-140.hsd1.de.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@adsl-66-122-66-78.dsl.anhm01.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === onechard [n=chard@ip68-98-192-143.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === astro76 [n=james@unaffiliated/astro76] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rockets [n=rockets@cpe-74-64-1-72.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jgoss [n=josh@unaffiliated/jgoss] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Unix_Jihad [n=maxb@ip-58-28-172-100.wxnz.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === r00tintheb0x [n=r00tinth@c-98-196-106-171.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-224-111-148.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === xnix [n=xnix@n157s046.ntc.blacksburg.shentel.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Dannilionz [n=danni@149.254.200.220] has joined #ubuntu+1 === \x6e\x65\x72\x64 [n=gaucho@201-35-189-41.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rockets [n=rockets@cpe-74-64-1-72.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tomi [n=tomi@dsl-olubrasgw1-fe57fb00-67.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1 === opop [n=steve@unaffiliated/opopanaxgentoo] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:22] hai [02:22] hello? [02:22] hello! [02:23] so, like, what's up? === Mo0oSaH [n=mo0osah@unaffiliated/mo0osah] has joined #ubuntu+1 === defcon [n=defcon@70-58-248-128.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === calc [n=ccheney@209.169.124.200] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rockets_ [n=rockets@cpe-74-64-1-72.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu+1 === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu+1 === starz [n=starz@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:52] !gutsy [02:52] Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1 [02:56] is installing with a sepeate /boot partition nessisarally destructive? === compwiz18 [n=adam18@61.51.179.7] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jkimball4 [n=jerrid@pc006629.mbsc.unomaha.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:58] starz: No. But you *will* have to format your / partition. [03:04] mm === masquerade [n=mirashii@c-71-200-21-140.hsd1.de.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] [03:04] RAOF: i think im gonna shrink and split the partition on my usb key [03:04] /dev/sda1 114M 35M 73M 33% /boot [03:04] lots of space left - no reason not to - just make it two partitions equal size should be good [03:04] i'm guessing should be able to keep 2 -3 kernels each and not trip === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:06] I had a 50Mb /boot at one point, and it was annoying. [03:11] how do I change the mouse pointer in gutsy [03:11] I have my /boot at 128 megs or so. [03:12] defcon: The same way you did in feisty? [03:12] gutsy doesnt like usb wifi cards, it gets a kernel panic with rt73 drivers from serial monkey, and gutsy doesnt support it [03:12] Pici, system/preferences/mouse does not give me the option [03:12] defcon: Its in apperance, under customize [03:13] I've been using gutsy for so long I forgot what feisty looks like [03:13] haha thankyou === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:21] Pici, do u have any idea why I get a kernel panic when I plug in my usb wifi card [03:22] its rather annoying, im running gutsy with ck's patchset because I cant run 2.6.22-9 without a crash [03:23] i tried 2.6.22-rt and 2.6.22-386 and I can plug it in with those but the driver does not modprobe [03:24] am I likely to have problems with another kernel other than gutsy's [03:27] I have no idea, Perhaps you should check out the support page for that module: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php?title=Rt2x00Wiki:Community_Portal === Vuen [n=nick@bas9-ottawa23-1088839090.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu+1 === AnRkey [n=AnRkey@87-194-62-131.bethere.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Goldfisch [n=gregturn@user-0c6t46t.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === BLuesKaj [n=kaj@unaffiliated/blueskaj] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:45] which repos contains the libdvdcss2 and win32 codecs for gutsy ? [03:46] !codecs [03:46] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [03:48] !seveas [03:48] Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages [03:48] not sure if he has gutsy packages yet but take a look [03:48] seveas hasn't been reliable lately , down most of the time [03:49] !medibuntu [03:49] medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org [03:49] considering he has a personal repo that he admins on personal time and makes packages that work for ubuntu I think we can put up with some downtime [03:49] Everyone, use that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ :) [03:49] BLuesKaj: Seveas's repos have a few mirrors, you could use a different one [03:49] IdleOne: You're not using one of the mirrors? [03:50] RAOF, I dont have any issues with seveas repos [03:50] does anyone know how i would go about getting a 3rd party project sub-forum on ubuntuforums.org? I have already send a message via the site to the webmaster but have not received a reply yet. Any help would be cool... [03:51] AnRkey: #ubuntuforums, not here [03:51] AnRkey: this has nothing to do with UF === defcon_ [n=defcon@70-58-248-128.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:51] yes i understand , IdleOne , just installed gutsy and i'm a bit peeved at the fact that 3D and DRI seems to be difficult to set up [03:52] BLuesKaj: which card? [03:52] You do realize its not released yet... [03:52] and I'm in the process of setting up my fav apps atm [03:52] ati :( [03:52] BLuesKaj, that comes with running pre-release OS [03:52] Hobbsee, very sorry [03:52] AnRkey: no problem [03:53] BLuesKaj: ah right. restricted-manager? [03:53] Are people upgrading from feisty to gutsy the old fashioned way (apt-get dist-upgrade after modifying /etc/apt/sources.list), or using update-manager -d? I have tried update-manager, but it fails, so I'm curious. === Hobbsee didnt trust the update manager not to break back when she installed gutsy [03:54] I did it the old fashioned way, because it was back in Tribe 1 === chx [n=chx@pdpc/supporter/professional/chx] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:55] mine was pre-tribe 1, so... [03:55] actually, i think i did a clean install from t2 [03:55] To be honest, I've always updated by changing the sources.list file. [03:56] in about one week, i'll get a laptop and that one more or less requires xserver-xorg-video-intel_2.x . What could I do? it's been request for feisty backport but that failed because it also needs xorg 1.3 ... === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:57] That is the way I did business when I used to run debian. I like update-manager, and the last time where I upgraded edgy to feisty after it was released, went without a problem. [03:57] you guys suck [03:57] praecox, ty [03:57] what is wrong that you cant fix? [03:57] I'm chomping at the bit to get thunderbird 2 and also eclipse is fixed to work with sun-java6. [03:57] at least as much as I do... [03:58] Goldfisch: I tried the aptitude dist-upgrade and modded sources list route but i wasn't successful ,lots of stuff broke and screwed my Xorg file which i tried to edit at the prompt but no joy so i just used windows to DL and burn tribe 3 and dia clean install [03:58] IdleOne, you didn't answer my question. [03:58] what question [03:58] IdleOne, or at least I've been disconnected and couldn't continue our conversation... [03:58] 170459 < praecox> IdleOne, well, there's one internet. but don't you think 'new internet' with cleaned out all domains (paralelly coexisting with current internet) would be interesting way to advertize for many companies all over the world? [03:58] 170538 < praecox> showing 'new way of thinking', new websites, new images of those companies? [03:59] 170622 < praecox> and would be good way to let someone buy domain which is already occupied by someone else on first internet? [03:59] praecox: nice attitude [03:59] BLuesKaj, thank you, my pleasure. [03:59] ;) [03:59] BLuesKaj: Well, I'm not chomping at the bit THAT much for gutsy. [04:00] praecox, I answered that question about 6 hours ago and NO I dont think it's a good idea. makes absolutely no sense for me to register google.com2 when google,com already exists and does a fine job [04:00] I'm sure they just luv you in here [04:00] IdleOne, I know you probably did. I was disconnected, sorry. === chx [n=chx@pdpc/supporter/professional/chx] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Konversation] [04:00] so the next time you have something intelligent to say like " you guys suck " DONT! [04:01] IdleOne, oh, sorry. I'm just drunk. [04:01] IdleOne, don't take it seriously. [04:01] Good idea. When you are drunk, come into an IRC chat room. Makes sense to me.... [04:01] praecox, you cant even keep yourself connected to the current internet what makes you think you can convince me to connet to your internet === marek` [n=keram`@cpe-76-87-180-5.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:02] praecox, go have anoher beer. relax and have a good night. see ya tomorow [04:02] IdleOne, actually irc.freenode.net couldn't keep me connected. [04:02] yeah blame the server that handles over 50 connects a day [04:02] 50thousand [04:03] heh [04:03] well my wife is calling === dhgwill [n=david@rrcs-72-43-193-58.nys.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:03] night folks [04:03] whatever... [04:03] 'nite [04:03] hehe [04:04] IdleOne: Was that a fast one you pulled, or are you really heading out? [04:04] gotta love drunk people. was I even close with the amount of connections per day? [04:04] yeah Im going soon [04:04] Heh [04:04] Well, I'm heading back to regular ubuntu channel. Good luck with filing bug reports with the gutsy team... === Goldfisch [n=gregturn@user-0c6t46t.cable.mindspring.com] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] === databuddy [n=ubuntu@unaffiliated/databuddy] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:07] do seveas pkgs run on gutsy ? [04:08] good question :P [04:08] "try it" === matysek [n=matysek@229.Red-88-22-154.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:08] does it have a gutsy repository? [04:09] #AAAAAA [04:09] lookibg just see feisty so far [04:10] <3 sevaeas [04:10] yaknow BLuesKaj / Hobbsee [04:10] its really REALLY amazing how far linux has come the last 4 years [04:10] seriously i only use windows to hack my cell phone now :D [04:10] next is when i get a quad core and go ahead and add encryption to everything >:P [04:11] cant wait till there's room for that kekekkeke [04:11] databuddy: can you post the debs [04:11] BLuesKaj: ? [04:11] i didnt mean for gutsy i meant in general [04:11] the seveas repository debs [04:11] what are you looking for though? [04:11] specifally [04:11] w32codecs and libdvdcss2 === angeldarkholme [n=angeldar@189.138.237.76] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:11] ah [04:12] 1. totem-xine [04:12] 2. mplayer [04:12] !restricted codecs === Hobbsee doesnt seem to need w32codecs [04:12] !medibuntu [04:12] medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org === kiba [n=kiba@adsl-215-148-38.aep.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:12] hi [04:12] databuddy: just install libdvdread3, and run install-mp3.sh [04:12] that'll give you the libdvdcss2 [04:12] or that? [04:13] http://mirror3.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/gutsy-seveas/ [04:13] (use locate to find it) [04:13] there you go, then [04:13] thx [04:13] hi guys...I need some help please: i have ubuntu 7.04 working on a dell laptop with an intel 3945 wireless card, everything works fine but i want the gnome network manager to show the wireless networks and I doens't show them... [04:13] If i try at the command line "iwlist eth1 scan" the wireless networks are shown..... [04:13] how can I solve this problem? [04:13] looks like he's still working on it [04:13] angeldarkholme: #ubuntu [04:13] this is +1 == 7.10 now [04:14] :O [04:14] sorry...i didn't know that... === databuddy pats [04:14] as someone else said [04:14] is it really different? === Hobbsee points to the topic [04:14] i think a lot of ppl thik this is superubuntu [04:14] I mean...non of you can help ? [04:14] databuddy: as in, the people who know more tend to be here. [04:15] Hobbsee: me being the exception to the rule! [04:15] ok finished reinstalling gutsy [04:15] angeldarkholme: nm applet should show the networks, after running the iwlist eth1 scan? [04:15] btw no umbiguity problem with tribe 3 ;P [04:15] no..... [04:15] I can see the wireless networks only in the command line [04:15] angeldarkholme: then ask in #ubuntu === os2mac [n=jim@114-41-178-69.gci.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:16] ok...thanks... === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === angeldarkholme [n=angeldar@189.138.237.76] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:26] gutsy hanging on boot - [04:26] masterloki: doesnt here. have you found out why? [04:26] says that hde4 has been mounted 32 times w/o being chekced [04:26] Hobbsee, ?? [04:26] masterloki: then wait. does it get thru the fsck? [04:27] thats the thing im not sure how long i should wait [04:27] wait until it finishes. [04:27] even tho its not showing anything on screen? [04:27] how long it takes depends on how big your drive is, obviously [04:27] usually there is a progress bar [04:27] doesnt it show a moving black bar? [04:27] exactly. [04:27] well, white bar on black screen? [04:27] none of that [04:27] and no [04:27] how'd you find it was fsck'ing, then? [04:28] b/c when fsck runs it clears /dev/hde2 and says /dev/hde4 needs to be done and then that /dev/sda1 is good and nothing else happens [04:28] i let it go 5 minutes a bit ago [04:28] how big is hde4? [04:28] mm [04:28] 160gigs [04:28] ....right. [04:28] then you probably have been killing it part way thru? [04:29] /boot is on sda1 and thats on thumbdrive [04:29] Hobbsee, only if its actually doing somthing i suppose [04:29] i'll give it 15 then === databuddy gets out ep of anime [04:29] this is true - actually, reboot without "quiet splash", and watch the verbose output [04:29] did =P [04:29] ah :) [04:29] thats how i boot standard [04:29] i like seeing all the crazy stuff [04:30] like how i have irregular ata osmething or other [04:30] you could probably manually fsck that partition, though, somehow. [04:30] livecd ? === d4rkmonkey [n=J-Red@CPE000bcd15b4ae-CM00195efba7ac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:30] tried going to recovery mode but that didnt do it either got stuck same point [04:30] yeah, live cd would probably be needed [04:31] well, unless you have another linux on there [04:31] and i'm sure there's a dont check option but it _should [04:31] or something with fsck [04:31] _ be checked [04:31] oh i do [04:31] feisty on /dev/sda1 and /dev/hde2 /home is on /dev/hde4 [04:32] gutsy on /dev/sda2 and /dev/hdf1 and /home is on /dev/hde4 [04:33] right. [04:33] live cd may be safer, then [04:34] agreed [04:34] but i' [04:34] ll give it 15 miin === databuddy pets darker than black === OSUKid7 [n=OSUKid7@acm.bw.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Hobbsee goes off to find some lunch === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF1F38.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === xsacha [n=xsacha@58.173.233.189] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:53] hey, flash is broken right now in gutsy right? [04:53] konqueror-plugins-ns or something? [04:53] it was working fine for me earlier (unless something happened in the last 3 hrs) [04:53] maybe only konqueror plugins? [04:53] past 3 days here [04:53] yikes. [04:53] that's a long time to be without flash :) [04:54] so im wondering, how do i revert a package? i forgot the command gr [04:54] wow - hobbsee was right as usual [04:54] if i visit a page that has flash on it, browser freezes === Danni [n=danni@149.254.200.222] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:55] flash working in ff here [04:55] yeah konqueror is the prob. [04:55] used its own installer [04:55] im just using the open source flash [04:55] ah [04:56] dunno then [04:56] ack [04:56] if you know the old package name, you can specify... [04:56] i think. [04:57] yeah, do you know the command? [04:57] sudo apt-get install flash-free=something or other [04:57] been searching google but obviously "revert" is the wrong word :( === ketrox [n=ketrox@Xdf8c.x.pppool.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:57] ah ok [04:57] yeah, for real. [04:57] i mean, i'm just guessing as regards specifics, there, but i think that should work. [04:58] i think it happened after i updated konqueror-nsplugins (or something), not actual flash tho [04:58] i'm looking at tribe 3 package repo === defcon_ [n=defcon@70-58-248-128.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:58] or trying to :) [04:58] konqueror-plugin-gnash maybe [04:59] should be an easier way to revert. like "revert last update" sort of thing [04:59] yeah, i've heard that before. [04:59] you'd think there'd be something or other keeping track... [05:00] in synaptic there is a force version option [05:01] find the package you updated, then select "Package:Force version" [05:03] mm too bad dont have synaptic [05:04] haha, alright [05:05] my flash plugin is a netscape plugin [05:05] problem started after i updated konqueror and konqueror-nsplugins [05:05] there's no other versions of it available :( [05:06] really? shouldn't you have the old package in your package cache? [05:06] mmm [05:07] when i do policy it only shows one version [05:07] apt-cache policy [05:09] grr adept just crashed [05:09] i think i've reached the limit of my helpfulness, although i can keep googling... which version do you have installed now? [05:09] 3.5.7-ubuntu15 [05:10] Installed: 4:3.5.7-1ubuntu15 [05:12] well, there's a bug report... apparently, this is related the gtk issues... [05:12] er, related to [05:12] there's a workaround that involves downgrading the gtk package [05:12] "It is fixed for now by installing the downgraded package libgtk2.0-0_2.10.11-0ubuntu3_i386.deb, but then adept wants to upgrade it and reports a whole swag of broken packages." [05:14] this looks relevant: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/127944/comments/41 [05:14] Launchpad bug 127944 in openoffice.org "[gutsy] Open Office applications don't start " [High,Confirmed] [05:14] thanks dhgwill!! [05:15] np, hope it works! now i've got to go. [05:15] ciao! [05:15] not sure how to downgrade tho :P [05:15] thx, cya [05:15] lol [05:15] good luck === Agrajag` [n=Agrajag@c-67-163-214-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 [05:19] bah ill just use firefox === os2mac [n=jim@114-41-178-69.gci.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-27-251.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === necronekostar [n=starz@unaffiliated/databuddy] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:38] !wine [05:38] wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information. === MacSlow [n=mirco@unaffiliated/macslow] has joined #ubuntu+1 === robitaille_ [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Tomcat_` [n=Tomcat@p54A1CD5E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.52.245] has joined #ubuntu+1 === TheGoodShepherd [n=lollersk@c-24-14-254-177.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === MajorPayne [n=major@CPE00195b4e72e4-CM001947577030.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:42] Message: device: default /// Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) //// serial 200 error_code 8 request_code 2 minor_code 0 [06:42] any ideas? [06:43] cant start xmms [06:43] grah! [06:43] thats my alarm too ;_; === starz [n=starz@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:54] grah [06:54] so yeah xmms wont start - totem will / mplayer will / gkrellm will [06:54] Heh. Just before you got here someone else was saying xmms wont start. [06:56] MajorPayne: you are right, it was somebody named necronekostar [06:57] he also gave the error message when it happened [06:57] Message: device: default /// Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) //// serial 200 error_code 8 request_code 2 minor_code 0 [06:57] starz: are you getting the same or similar error message? === eddiedean [n=steve@unaffiliated/opopanaxgentoo] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:59] shirish: if youve been in a sec [06:59] MajorPayne: that was me [06:59] ;p === mloki_ [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:59] Stormx2: Ohh. [07:00] shirish: yeah something like that tho [07:00] err, databuddy ohh. [07:00] nice nick tho MajorPayne === False_Courage [n=lollersk@c-24-14-254-177.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === MajorPayne [n=major@CPE00195b4e72e4-CM001947577030.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === compwiz18 [n=adam18@221.223.236.178] has joined #ubuntu+1 === MacSlow [n=mirco@unaffiliated/macslow] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:18] shirish: so now that i got a couple things done and im looking at it lol [07:18] that was the mssg that i had posted [07:19] lol funneh how things dont always register at first [07:19] anyway so yeah - any ideas on that? [07:19] its a 64bit install as well for the record [07:23] no idea, don't use xmms, use exaile & its cool for me [07:25] databuddy: also xmms is deprecated, try xmms2 - its supposed to be better === Xemanth [n=xemanth@hostf229.hamk.fi] has joined #Ubuntu+1 [07:25] xmms 2 isnt gui i think === calc [n=ccheney@conr-adsl-209-169-124-200.consolidated.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma- [n=e17@i156-171.nv.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:27] databuddy: I haven't used xmms2 as I am happy with exaile, i just caught some discussions sometime before on xmms === Sebastian [n=sb@p5088CDBE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === IcemanV9 [n=jwvehrs@adsl-75-21-223-237.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-376e6cb36a58fc1e] has joined #ubuntu+1 === defcon [n=defcon@70-58-248-128.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF1F38.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rob_ [n=wakawaka@cpe-24-164-167-171.hvc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.52.245] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === databuddy [n=starz@unaffiliated/databuddy] has joined #ubuntu+1 === defcon [n=defcon@70-58-248-128.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:17] any alternative for bootlogd on gutsy [08:17] I cannot seem to log my boot [08:18] my kernel panics on boot and I need to log it for a bug report [08:20] im going to try this new kernel === ICU [n=me@sechzig.dd.ewetel.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === xtknight [n=xtknight@c-68-43-120-159.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === IcemanV9 [n=jwvehrs@adsl-75-21-223-237.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Christo] === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu+1 === defcon [n=defcon@70-58-248-128.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Bubble [i=Bubble@unaffiliated/bubble] has joined #ubuntu+1 === _4strO [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-45-14.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Ayabara [n=bah@cm-84.210.83.052.chello.no] has joined #ubuntu+1 === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.52.245] has joined #ubuntu+1 === chand [n=rsamson@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === chand_ [n=rsamson@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-101.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DeepB [n=Joe@unaffiliated/deepb] has joined #ubuntu+1 === CodeImp [n=dont@s55910c2b.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === asisak [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu+1 === asisak is now known as coNP === nzk [n=nzk@ool-4573ea02.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:09] Is it possible to update to Gutsy without downloading the image and installing it from a disk? === tmske [n=thomas@dD5763506.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:09] Hey tmske [09:09] Hey nzk :-) [09:10] nzk: yes [09:10] Is it possible to upgrade to gutsy with update-manager -d? Or is only manual update possible at the moment? [09:10] jussi01: How? [09:10] tmske: yes. [09:11] nzk: but it doesn't seem to work for me, it doesn't show the upgrade to gutsy button [09:12] Iuno === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu+1.log [09:15] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- [#ubuntu-server] Ubuntu Server Discussions (development and support) [09:16] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- [#ubuntu-ops] Welcome to #ubuntu-ops - Home of the operators for official K/X/Ed/Ubuntu channels. Questions, requests and complaints about Ubuntu related channels and their people can be filed here" === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Topic for #ubuntu+1: The In Development Version Channel | Please *don't* run gutsy unless you are familiar with dpkg and dependencies, bug fixing, etc | Ubuntu 7.10 - the "Gutsy Gibbon" | Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule | Do not use development versions of Ubuntu on production systems | For support for Dapper, Edgy, Feisty please join #ubuntu. | Go Ape! | Tribe 3 Released! === Topic (#ubuntu+1): set by Hobbsee at Thu Jul 19 17:53:32 2007 [09:16] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- [#ubuntu+1] Please read the topic. Especially if things are broken! === chand_ is now known as chand === eMaX_ [n=emax@242.7.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:19] Hmm, is konq broken with flash? is anyone else having this problem? [09:19] firefox is working fine... [09:20] jussi01: again, the answer hasnt changed. there are still bugs about it [09:21] Hobbsee: hmmm, didnt see the answer last time then... ;) === jussi01 hugs Hobbsee [09:21] i though tyou did, as you responded to it :) === Hobbsee hugs jussi01 [09:21] hehe, nope, mustve been half asleep... [09:22] I just remembered you saying something about not using konq and flash [09:24] Hobbsee: can you tell me some of the other qt browsers out there? (if they exist?) === necronekostar [n=starz@unaffiliated/databuddy] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:24] i dont knjow of otehrs apart from konq [09:24] but that doesnt mean they dontexist [09:25] ok, thanks, Id like to use something native, but konq is a bit annoying sometimes, and I dont like opera.... === xstasi [n=xstasi@85-18-14-24.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Frost^ [n=sweiss@DSL217-132-198-97.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Zdra [n=zdra@197.218-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === emonkey [n=emonkey@213.1.220.131] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:41] hmmm, why did we lose kubuntu package manager and get gdebi? === Xemanth [n=xemanth@hostf229.hamk.fi] has joined #Ubuntu+1 [09:42] jussi01: it's gdebi-kde [09:42] jussi01: more robust [09:42] oh, ok === chand [n=rsamson@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Telep [n=telep@pc9.htk.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sen3 [n=sen@83.101.2.205] has joined #ubuntu+1 === emonkey [n=emonkey@213.1.220.131] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tretle_ [n=tretle@213-202-146-19.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === afflux [i=fnord@pentabarf.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === claria [n=aem@dslb-084-057-146-047.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === george_ [n=george@86.124.98.112] has joined #ubuntu+1 === twilight [n=lorenzo@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sen3 [n=sen@238.67-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === compwiz18 [n=adam18@221.216.193.68] has joined #ubuntu+1 === _EXP [i=_EXP@dsl-prigw1-fedcfb00-12.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:43] <_EXP> anyone familiar with ltsp5? [10:44] <_EXP> need some details about ltspfs in LTSP5 === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-101.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 === akrus [n=akrus@62.140.224.26] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mrigns [n=mrigns@unaffiliated/mrigns] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tyabux [n=joerlend@123-191.dsl.freewave.no] has joined #Ubuntu+1 === rejser__ [n=rejser@84-55-116-111.customers.ownit.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Happu_ [n=Happu@166-82.adsl.lpoy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Anlar_ [n=miersale@jalava.cc.jyu.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Trewas666 [n=ilonen@raato.lut.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Ronald__ [n=ronald@193.221.125.119] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-101.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tomsku [n=tomsku@dsl-trebrasgw1-fe54fa00-250.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu+1 === _4str1 [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-3-189.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 === pvandewyngaerde [n=pvandewy@124.62-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === os2mac [n=jim@114-41-178-69.gci.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === matysek [n=matysek@229.Red-88-22-154.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === stdin [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jlu_ [n=jlu@p5B284AAD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 === MattJ [n=MattJ@88-109-168-10.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === akrus [n=akrus@62.140.224.26] has joined #ubuntu+1 === pecisk [n=pecisk@purvc-69-54.maksinets.lv] has joined #ubuntu+1 === akrus [n=akrus@62.140.224.26] has joined #ubuntu+1 === johnnybuoy [i=johnny@gateway/tor/x-1214aa1b335a2324] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jussi_ [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-101.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:53] someone an idea why update-manager -d doesn't show gutsy to upgrade to in feisty [12:56] do you have the feisty-updates repo? [12:56] uh, feisty-proposed not -updates === fiveiron [n=fiveiron@74-137-162-129.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.142.50.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === onechard [n=chard@209.168.213.107] has joined #ubuntu+1 === compengi [n=compengi@77.42.182.45] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sen3 [n=sen@238.67-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tatters [n=test@AC9F7909.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Pimp1984 [n=Pimp1984@adsl-87-102-86-239.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:29] I upgraded feisty to gusty, left with 2 packages that cannot be installed, digicam and ubuntu-studio,I assume ubuntustudio-audio is a meta package and not a problem,how do I find out what preventing them from installing [01:29] tatters: why everybody say it as gusty always [01:30] same happened with feisty, everybody said it as fiesty [01:30] :| [01:30] lol, I am bad speller that my excuse [01:30] yup I only just learned to get feisty right way round [01:31] try apt-get -f install [01:31] tried that to sort other probs out [01:31] so just left with those 2 unresolved === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:32] whats the exact error what it says? [01:34] The following packages have been kept back: digikam ubuntustudio-audio0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. [01:35] tatters: try doing a dist-upgrade/full-upgrade [01:37] tried that in apt manager it refuse to change the to install and synaptic manager gives basically same message as above [01:38] refuses to change the not installed to install ^^ === lasse_ [n=lasse@136.pool85-50-118.dynamic.orange.es] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:43] k,thnx fixed it, I used the -f on individual packages this time not the upgrade digikam installed fine,ubuntustudio-audio gives message The following packages have unmet dependencies. ubuntustudio-audio: Depends: ardour but it is not installable === humbolto [n=elias@81.5.202.185] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:48] hmm, Package ardour has no installation candidate [01:48] !ardour [01:48] Sorry, I don't know anything about ardour - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [01:49] !info ardour [01:49] Package ardour does not exist in gutsy [01:49] I see ardour-grk [01:49] er, gtk [01:49] !info ardour feisty [01:49] Package ardour does not exist in feisty === Toma- [n=e17@i156-171.nv.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === topaspv [n=topaspv@unaffiliated/topaspv] has joined #ubuntu+1 === twilight_ [n=lorenzo@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:51] that is a messed up depends [01:52] Sounds like its time to log a bug [01:53] how can i request a new feature? [01:54] topaspv: make a blueprint or ask on the mailinglist [01:55] what's a blueprint? [01:55] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy [01:55] ok, thanks === topaspv [n=topaspv@unaffiliated/topaspv] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] [01:57] Pici: ardour FTBFS thats why its not installable [01:57] gnomefreak: FTBFS? [01:57] fail to build [01:57] gnomefreak: ah... [01:57] !ftbfs [01:57] Sorry, I don't know anything about ftbfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [01:57] Whats FS then? [01:58] oh I always forgot this is WIP :) [01:58] not sure i think filesystem [01:58] i pasted that, i normally use FTB [01:58] Fails To Build From Source [01:58] :) [01:58] yeah [01:58] lol [01:58] wikipedia [01:59] I should probably enable that apt-ftbnewsthingy whatever its called [01:59] apt-ftarchive? [01:59] apt-listbugs [02:00] http://debaday.debian.net/2007/08/01/apt-listbugs-lists-critical-bugs-before-each-apt-installation/ [02:00] ah that damn thing :( [02:00] Pici: i used to use that, it gets annoying as crap [02:01] Oh. I'll just stick with listchanges then === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #ubuntu+1 === dendrobates [n=rclark@adsl-065-005-186-012.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === dendrobates [n=rclark@adsl-065-005-186-012.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === johnnybuoy [i=johnny@gateway/tor/x-e5c0a7601d766a6d] has joined #ubuntu+1 === coNP wonders why amarok is broen === onechard [n=chard@209.168.213.107] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Pici wonders why coNP thinks amarok is broken [02:08] it was recently... [02:08] some python-sip4 / python-qt3 issue [02:08] might be fixed since [02:09] a dist-upgrade of today [02:09] hm [02:09] Pici: it is [02:09] Well then. [02:10] gnomefreak: I guess the reason is what you mentioned on -motu recently [02:10] i just posted infot o Hobbsee [02:10] coNP: thats all i can think of [02:10] respin should fix it all [02:10] Cool. Then it will be fixed soon :) === jussi01 is suprised... all it wants to do is remvoe stuff...lol [02:10] lol [02:11] it gets like that sometimes and if i didnt need amarok today i would have passed it off as not to worry === coNP has a running copy [02:12] If it gets fixed before reboot, I am saved :) [02:12] me too i didnt do the upgrade [02:12] if Hobbsee says that is the issue for sure i can start respinning if she llikes [02:13] what is respinning? [02:13]