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Toromanhi!  I have an usb wifi dongle (usr805422), when i try to boot up ubuntu with my usr805422, I receive host system error and I cant use my dongle until next reboot....   it only works when i boot up my ubuntu without usb dongle and wait to load desktop manager and ndiswrapper :(    http://pastebin.com/me5a7918   here is more inf. please help me12:58
defconbelkin ralink rt73 wifi dongle causes a kernel panic when I plug it in12:59
defconToroman, same problem here, kernel panic my caps/scroll lock blink01:00
defconeverything worked fine in feisty01:00
Toromanwith usr805422 no kernel panic problem but only my usb host dies :D01:01
Toromani try my dongle with other distros such as pardus, no problem occured...01:04
JanCmany ralink drivers heave issues with multiprocessing01:06
JanCso if you have a multi-core/multithreading CPU...01:07
ToromanI'v very very single and old core :D01:08
JanCso then there is another issue...  ;)01:09
Toromani try this dongle with 3 different computers but they all deliver same error01:12
mjg59amitk_: http://www.codon.org.uk/~mjg59/tmp/usb_autosuspend01:13
ToromanI have to unplug my dongle and boot my comp wait  ndiswrapper loads then plug my dongle01:15
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defconikm having an issue with gutsy and the 2.6.22-9 kernel, when I plug in my belkins usb wifi dongle I get an instant kernel panic03:25
lamont`defcon: neato.  what exactly is the panic?>03:29
defconhow do I debug this and properly report it03:30
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\x6e\x65\x72\x64Hi, I'm trying to compile a dapper kernel on a feisty machine, because the feisty machine is faster, but I'm getting some errors, do I have to make any special changes for this to work?03:30
defconit instantly freezes my box and blinks caps lock/scroll lock03:30
defconlamont, I have tried -rt and it doesnt panic but I am unable to modprobe the module rt73.ko from serialmonkey, and cannot use the supplied drivers with ubuntu03:32
defcon2.6.22-9-386 got the same issue03:32
lamont`defcon: and the actual panic message is????03:35
lamont`ah - it freezes the machine, rather than panicing... got it03:35
defconi didnt write it down, should there be a log of it03:35
defconapon boot it does the same03:36
lamont`given that panic doesn't trust anything, it tends to only record the info on the console....03:36
defconwont boot when initializing interfaces03:36
lamont`that makes sense03:36
defconcapslock/scroll lock blink03:36
defconwhat does that mean03:37
lamont`OTOH, without knowing what the panic message was, life sucks.  If there's no panic message, then life gets more interesting for tracking things down03:37
lamont`defcon: dunno what the blinking stuff means03:37
mjg59Blinking means that the kernel has oopsed03:38
defconok so I'll reinstall the kernel and try again supplying u with an error message, I only get it during recovery mode03:38
lamont`mjg59: cool.  I'll remember that03:38
defconam i in the right place for this to be resolved? 03:39
lamont`defcon: I'm close to running out the door for home, and will be gone for at least an hour at that point.  I'll read scrollback when I get there.03:39
lamont`defcon: either here, or (better yet), all the detail you can provide, into a bug filed in launchpad03:39
defconlamont, ok03:39
lamont`that way it gets some tracking.03:39
lamont`and actually, this is the right channel to be discussing your fix for the bug, to make sure that it's implemented correctly, etc.  rather than a support channel....03:40
lamont`likewise, discussions on figuring out how to best debug the problem are on topic.03:40
lamont`"fix my bug please, kthxbye" would be off topic. :-)03:40
lamont`at least, that's how i read things...03:41
defconcool03:41
defconI appreciate it lamont 03:41
defconi'll work on this03:41
defcondling/installing the kernel now03:41
defcongoing to reboot now and write this down03:42
defconbbl03:42
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defcon_lamont,  lamont` gotta type this out now03:52
defcon_[39.928296]  kobject_add failed for :d-0000008 with -EEXIST dont try to register things with the same name in the same directory03:54
defcon_[39.928660]  Kernel Panic - not syncing Creation of kmalloc slab kmalloc_dma-2 size=2 failed03:54
defcon_where can I post this on launchpad03:55
mjg59Sounds like a bug in p5403:55
mjg59defcon_: There should be several other lines as well03:55
defcon_keep in mind this is a belkins F5D7050 USB wifi card03:56
defcon_if that matters03:56
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defcon_new bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/13007804:08
mjg59defcon_: We need the rest of the message04:11
defcon_thats where it froze04:13
defcon_it didnt give any more04:13
mjg59defcon_: What are the lines before that?04:14
defcon_I dont remember, let me try and think, it all looked normal04:16
defcon_something about b**** doesnt have a config file, I know its an app for security policies04:17
defcon_but I didnt enable it04:17
defcon_I know04:19
defcon_bastille does not have a configuration file04:19
defcon_thats it04:19
defcon_I did not set anything for bastille, so it shouldnt effect anything I dont think04:20
defcon_I just removed bastille04:20
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bullgard4kern.log prints: "pnp: Failed to activate device 00:06." How can I determine what '00:06' stands for?05:17
johanbrlspci05:19
mjg59No05:22
bullgard4johanbr: My lspci -vv outputs in the format xxxx:yy:zz.z. How does this format map to the pnp format aa::bb?05:25
bullgard4aa:bb05:25
mjg59It doesn't05:26
johanbrx=a and y=b, I think.05:26
kylemno.05:26
kylemgod.05:26
mjg59That output isn't from the pci system05:26
kylembullgard4, install pnputils and run lspnp.05:27
johanbrOh... sorry for spreading misinformation.05:27
bullgard4kylem: lspnp prints: "00:06 PNP0303 IBM enhanced keyboard (101/102-key, PS/2 mouse support)." --  Thank you very much.05:58
kylembullgard4, no problemo.05:58
lamontEE: Missing modules (start begging for mercy)05:58
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lamontkylem: so are we already committed to -9.26?06:02
kylempardon?06:02
lamonthppa64.modules was also incorrect.06:02
lamontmind you, I'm happy just pushing -9.25hppa1 for the moment, in my archive06:02
lamontas long as we make sure things get right in -9.26 when it does hit...06:03
kylemi have a few patches i want in tribe4, but they're likely abi-breaking, so i'll have to schedule them with Ben.06:03
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lamontbuild takes a couple hours, so we'll know in the morning if it's any good.06:04
kylemif it's just a simple patch, please just post it to kernel-team (instead of asking for a pull for just a single commit)06:05
lamontI'll post the diff, although it's basically a "replace hppa64.modules with the good one"06:05
kylemok.06:05
lamontI wonder... if it's -9.25hppa1 do I want it to be abi/2.6.22-9.25 or abi/2.6.22-9.24?06:06
lamont2506:07
defcon_lamont, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/13007806:27
lamontdefcon_: and what did it say _before_ those two lines?06:28
lamontfull context is kinda important...06:28
defcon_before it said that it said cannot load bastille config, I never configured it so I dont believe thats a problem06:28
defcon_I had to write down then type that out whats on there hehe06:29
defcon_before that it said loading network interfaces06:29
defcon_and thats it06:29
defcon_brb06:29
lamontok06:32
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defcon_lamont, is there a way to get the log without writing it all down07:35
defcon_or a script or something to log it all07:35
lamontdefcon_: personally, I tend to use a camera07:36
defcon_hehe07:36
lamontserial consoles are also kinda cool07:36
defcon_i could enable bootlogd07:38
defcon_./etc/default/bootlogd07:38
defcon_im suprised it is disabled by default07:38
lamontkylem: fwiw, the diff is 5kb, 500 lines, all of it hppa64.modules07:42
lamontshort enough to just email to the list07:42
lamontonce the build succeeds07:42
infinitys/once/if/07:42
infinityAlthough I have every confidence in your test building process, LaMont. :P07:43
defcon_brb reboot07:43
lamontinfinity: heh./07:43
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lamontthe only oddity is that it's test-building -9.25hppa1 instead of -9.2607:43
lamontit's doing hppa64/modules build right now... I wish it'd hurry up07:45
lamonthrm.. should be OTOO 40 minutes07:46
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defconI see bootlogd is disabled, and broken08:15
defconany other app to log the boot seq so I can get a kernel log of it Panicing08:15
defconI dont have a digital camera to snap it08:15
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defconnew kernel update still bombs when it see's my belkin usb dongle08:33
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defconwill a kern.log help with a kernel panic08:44
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Nafallomjg59: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32346/ <-- that's what I could save from the serial window booting with apic=debug11:04
Nafallomjg59: http://home.nafallo.info/bugs/sata_nv_take2.txt <-- and that's with the drives at ports 3 and 4.11:05
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mjg59Nafallo: Does acpi_use_timer_override work?01:15
Nafallomjg59: instead of noacpi?01:16
Nafalloapic even01:16
mjg59Yes01:18
Nafallowe shall see. brb.01:20
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Nafallohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32360/01:28
Nafallohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32361/01:28
Nafallothe first one without apic=debug01:29
Nafallohttp://home.nafallo.info/bugs/sata_nv_take3.txt01:35
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Nafallomjg59: any ideas? :-)01:35
Nafalloputting current gutsy -server on there should work, right?01:38
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Nafallowell, that didn't work... :-P01:53
mjg59Wow. Your hardware is impressively broken.02:04
NafalloASA M2N-E02:05
NafalloASUS even02:05
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Nafallomjg59: so. what can I do? :-)02:06
mjg59Get a new motherboard?02:07
Nafalloouch02:07
mjg59Hm. apic=debug doesn't seem to have helped much.02:07
Nafalloindeed it didn't :-/02:08
mjg59There ought to have been a dump of the apic mappings02:09
Nafallocan I force it to do that on the running system or somethiing? :-)02:11
mjg59Oh, wait, I see the output now02:12
Nafallomjg59: I found logcheck have nice logs. do you want all the latest reboots? ;-)02:16
mjg59No, I don't think that would really help02:23
Nafalloehrm. I think you might want to see this one... what's you mailaddress?02:24
Nafalloah, no. seems the .txt on the server has the info.02:27
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mjg59Nafallo: It, uh, seems to have the same problem?02:29
Nafallothey all have :-P02:30
Nafallohmm. a friend told me to remove the disabling code from spurious.c :-P02:31
mjg59Nafallo: So why would I want to look at that one especially?02:33
mjg59I suspect your machine just has wrong IRQ routing for the noapic case02:33
mjg59You could try pci=noacpi02:33
mjg59But it would be more interesting to fix the actual bug (the fact that it doesn't seem willing to boot with the apic)02:34
mjg59Have you tried the 64-bit version?02:34
NafalloI agree. but what more can I do to nail down the cause?02:34
Nafalloyes. when I removed all drives except the raptors and installed gutsy tribe-3 x86_64 server02:35
ivoksmjg59: (sorry for distraction) could you take a look at bug 119130 when you have time; it has a solution, so it should be an easy one...02:35
mjg59Nafallo: And?02:37
Nafallomjg59: same thing.02:39
mjg59Nafallo: Which same thing?02:39
Nafallothe irq 7: nobody cared thing02:40
mjg59Nafallo: And without noapic?02:40
Nafalloand had to boot with noapic02:40
mjg59ivoks: I don't really have time to deal with acpi-support right now02:40
mjg59With the same failure message?02:40
Nafalloyes.02:40
Nafallodapper worked though :-)02:40
ivoksmjg59: ok02:40
Nafallowith noapic...02:41
Nafalloso "worked"02:41
Nafalloatleast I didn't get the irq7 on 2.6.15 :-)02:42
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BenCAnyone else have a Turion x2 laptop that they are running or have tried to run gutsy on?03:52
BenCrtg: I'm going to start a new thread on lkml about this problem...it's pretty serious regression for us03:53
rtgBenC: There are several LP reports that I think are related.03:54
BenCrtg: any pointers?03:57
rtgI'll see if I can round 'em up.03:59
lamontBenC: btw, more hppa tweaks for .26 :-(04:11
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BenCrtg: Cc'd you04:14
lamontimagelist=$(cat kernel-versions | grep ^hppa | awk '{print $4}') && \04:15
lamont        for i in $imagelist; do \04:15
lamont          dpkg -x $(ls ../linux-image-$i\_*hppa.deb) \04:15
lamont                debian/d-i-hppa; \04:15
lamont        done04:15
lamontdpkg-deb: --extract takes at most two arguments (.deb and directory)04:15
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BenCNafallo: override the PCI slot IRQ's in the BIOS?04:24
BenCNafallo: in a lot of cases, the "irqX and nobody care" is a symptom of a broken BIOS, so check for an update on that as well04:25
NafalloBenC: thanks :-)04:25
Nafalloa slightly more expensive solution is PCI-E 3ware RAID1 ;-)04:26
Nafallobut I'll check this one out first :-)04:26
NafalloI should have PNPOS installed in BIOS, right? :-)04:26
BenCshould, yes04:27
Nafallowell, I'll look soon enough then.04:30
Nafalloneed to put VGA in the box again :-P04:30
Nafallohmm. beta bios? ;-)04:33
Nafallohttp://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&model=M2N-E <-- /me is confused04:33
aboganiBenC: Could you enable linux-image-debug build for rt? Thanks.05:12
BenCabogani: can't, the custom-binary builds don't support that05:12
aboganiBenC: Uh, sorry!05:13
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BenCkylem: Do you have a Turion laptop?05:29
kylemnope.05:29
kylemi only have one amd box these days.05:29
mjg59BenC: There's a discussion about missing timer interrupts on mobile AMDs on lkml right now05:32
BenCmjg59: ah, that's exactly what I need, thanks05:42
BenCmjg59: subject?05:43
mjg59 ACPI on Averatec 237005:46
mjg59nolapic_timer ought to work if it's the same issue05:46
kylemRegarding the issue described above that Frank and I are having, I've05:50
kylemnarrowed it down to commit e9e2cdb4[1] : [PATCH]  clockevents: i386 drivers05:50
kylemheh, must be the same problem.05:50
BenCmjg59: It didn't work for me05:52
BenCkylem: same commit that Tim and I came up with05:52
BenCso three of us separately bisected to the same one05:52
kylemcheck out the message from Linus there.05:53
BenCyeah, I'm about to test that05:53
BenCkylem: data point, x86_64 kernel boots fine for me05:53
kylemBenC, it would, it uses completely different code.05:53
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BenCanother reason to merge i386/x86_64 :/05:54
mjg59Andi insists on maintaining different timer code because, erm, well.05:54
kylemBenC, well, x86_64 hasn't got the new time code yet, because it's still buggy. (clearly. :)05:55
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amitk_mjg59: Patch looks good. Can you send it with a sign-off?06:13
mjg59amitk_: Didn't it have one?06:13
mjg59amitk_: Oh - I tried to mail you, but amitk@u.c doesn't work06:14
mjg59It's on lkml and usb-dev06:14
kylemmjg59, it's just amit@06:14
amitk_mjg59: thanks06:17
BenCrebooting to test the amd broken timer thing06:22
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BenCsweet, it worked06:29
kylemyeah, i figured it would. the probelm seems to be with nohz, you can't turn off the lapic timer06:32
BenCI wonder if "nolapic nohz=on" would work06:33
BenCerr nohz=off06:33
BenCkylem: do you think forcing "return 1" is a good work around for us to use?06:34
BenCin production I mean06:34
BenCkylem: does a broken lapic timer mean that kernel disabled nohz?06:35
kylemi say we add the proper define in now (test the cpuid) and reevaluate the decision after before -rc?06:35
kylema lot of testing should happen for beta, so we can see if the issue reoccurs now that we know what to do...06:35
BenCkylem: you sounds like you're on top of this...can you get a patch in, and a new kernel today (or before Monday)?06:36
kylemBenC, er, well, need info from you or tim first.06:37
BenClet me know what you need and I can get it06:37
kylem (b) make that function print out the values it uses for debugging (ie the06:37
kylem     xtended family and model numbers, and the MSR_K8_ENABLE_C1E MSR06:37
BenCI assume cpuid06:37
kylem     values)?06:37
kylemright.06:37
BenCok06:37
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NafalloBenC, mjg59: I think the damn upgrade fixed it.08:00
NafalloBIOS08:00
mjg59Nafallo: Hurrah. Does it work without noapic now?08:00
Nafallomjg59: I think so. I'll check my commandline :-)08:00
Nafallo[   64.748254]  Kernel command line: root=/dev/md1 ro console=tty0 console=ttyS0,38400n8 break=premount08:01
Nafallo:-D08:01
mjg59Excellent.08:01
Nafallotoo easy :-P08:01
Nafallowhy didn't I think about this before? :-)08:01
rtgBenC or mjg59: Am I smoking crack on this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/129477 ? What does a Synaptics touchpad do under windows that these guys expect?08:12
mjg59rtg: It's a new-model ALPS pad. The kernel doesn't recognise it.08:13
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rtgmjg59: So PS/2 emulation is the best we can expect w/Feisty, right?08:13
mjg59With Feisty, yes08:13
rtgmjg59: Thanks.08:14
mjg59rtg: In PS/2 emulation mode it only reports relative motion. In native mode it gives absolute coordinates which give the synaptics userspace driver the ability to implement additional functionality (like scrolling)08:15
rtgI guess I've never used a touchpad like taht.08:15
mjg59Basically everything (other than very old stuff and bleeding-edge alps) works like that in Linux08:16
Nafallohttp://home.nafallo.info/bugs/sata_nv.txt btw :-)08:19
NafalloI can't see anything weird :-)08:19
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mjg59Yeah, looks fine08:21
mjg59Note how stuff is all on different interrupts now08:21
gnomefreakwe are tptally against putting 2.6.23 in multiverse right?08:26
gnomefreaktotally even08:26
mjg59Do you mean universe?08:26
gnomefreakyeah sorry08:27
mjg59And I suspect the answer is yes08:27
gnomefreaksomeone asked this this morning im getting around to it now08:27
zuli am against it08:27
gnomefreakonce gutsy stable we cant really touch it08:27
infinityWe've had newer kernels in universe before, and it was a complete disaster.08:28
infinitySo, yeah, we're pretty firmly against repeating that fiasco.08:29
mjg59Oh, yes, I'd forgotten that08:30
mjg592.6.11, wasn't it?08:30
mjg59Back in Hoary08:30
infinityYeah.08:30
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rtgmjg59: I'm about to instrument a Feisty kernel to extract the Dell 1420 ALPS touchpad E7 report. Is there an easier way? Do you think simply adding alps_model_info will enable the scroll bars?09:24
mjg59rtg: The issue came up on lkml - simply adding the device to the table didn't seem to work, so I suspect the protocol has changed slightly09:25
rtgmjg59: drat.09:25
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