=== ketrox [n=ketrox@Zd14d.z.pppool.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === bradley [n=bradley@CPE-24-208-44-208.new.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-122-108.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Toroman [n=sercanii@88.231.69.179] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === defcon [n=defcon@70-58-248-128.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [12:58] hi! I have an usb wifi dongle (usr805422), when i try to boot up ubuntu with my usr805422, I receive host system error and I cant use my dongle until next reboot.... it only works when i boot up my ubuntu without usb dongle and wait to load desktop manager and ndiswrapper :( http://pastebin.com/me5a7918 here is more inf. please help me [12:59] belkin ralink rt73 wifi dongle causes a kernel panic when I plug it in [01:00] Toroman, same problem here, kernel panic my caps/scroll lock blink [01:00] everything worked fine in feisty [01:01] with usr805422 no kernel panic problem but only my usb host dies :D [01:04] i try my dongle with other distros such as pardus, no problem occured... [01:06] many ralink drivers heave issues with multiprocessing [01:07] so if you have a multi-core/multithreading CPU... [01:08] I'v very very single and old core :D [01:09] so then there is another issue... ;) [01:12] i try this dongle with 3 different computers but they all deliver same error [01:13] amitk_: http://www.codon.org.uk/~mjg59/tmp/usb_autosuspend [01:15] I have to unplug my dongle and boot my comp wait ndiswrapper loads then plug my dongle === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-217-216.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === bradley [n=bradley@CPE-24-208-44-208.new.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === calc [n=ccheney@209.169.124.200] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Toroman is now known as SerCanii === defcon [n=defcon@70-58-248-128.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:25] ikm having an issue with gutsy and the 2.6.22-9 kernel, when I plug in my belkins usb wifi dongle I get an instant kernel panic [03:29] defcon: neato. what exactly is the panic?> [03:30] how do I debug this and properly report it === \x6e\x65\x72\x64 [n=gaucho@201-35-189-41.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:30] <\x6e\x65\x72\x64> Hi, I'm trying to compile a dapper kernel on a feisty machine, because the feisty machine is faster, but I'm getting some errors, do I have to make any special changes for this to work? [03:30] it instantly freezes my box and blinks caps lock/scroll lock [03:32] lamont, I have tried -rt and it doesnt panic but I am unable to modprobe the module rt73.ko from serialmonkey, and cannot use the supplied drivers with ubuntu [03:32] 2.6.22-9-386 got the same issue [03:35] defcon: and the actual panic message is???? [03:35] ah - it freezes the machine, rather than panicing... got it [03:35] i didnt write it down, should there be a log of it [03:36] apon boot it does the same [03:36] given that panic doesn't trust anything, it tends to only record the info on the console.... [03:36] wont boot when initializing interfaces [03:36] that makes sense [03:36] capslock/scroll lock blink [03:37] what does that mean [03:37] OTOH, without knowing what the panic message was, life sucks. If there's no panic message, then life gets more interesting for tracking things down [03:37] defcon: dunno what the blinking stuff means [03:38] Blinking means that the kernel has oopsed [03:38] ok so I'll reinstall the kernel and try again supplying u with an error message, I only get it during recovery mode [03:38] mjg59: cool. I'll remember that [03:39] am i in the right place for this to be resolved? [03:39] defcon: I'm close to running out the door for home, and will be gone for at least an hour at that point. I'll read scrollback when I get there. [03:39] defcon: either here, or (better yet), all the detail you can provide, into a bug filed in launchpad [03:39] lamont, ok [03:39] that way it gets some tracking. [03:40] and actually, this is the right channel to be discussing your fix for the bug, to make sure that it's implemented correctly, etc. rather than a support channel.... [03:40] likewise, discussions on figuring out how to best debug the problem are on topic. [03:40] "fix my bug please, kthxbye" would be off topic. :-) [03:41] at least, that's how i read things... [03:41] cool [03:41] I appreciate it lamont [03:41] i'll work on this [03:41] dling/installing the kernel now [03:42] going to reboot now and write this down [03:42] bbl === defcon_ [n=defcon@70-58-248-128.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:52] lamont, lamont` gotta type this out now [03:54] [39.928296] kobject_add failed for :d-0000008 with -EEXIST dont try to register things with the same name in the same directory [03:54] [39.928660] Kernel Panic - not syncing Creation of kmalloc slab kmalloc_dma-2 size=2 failed [03:55] where can I post this on launchpad [03:55] Sounds like a bug in p54 [03:55] defcon_: There should be several other lines as well [03:56] keep in mind this is a belkins F5D7050 USB wifi card [03:56] if that matters === ketrox [n=ketrox@Xdf8c.x.pppool.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [04:08] new bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/130078 [04:11] defcon_: We need the rest of the message [04:13] thats where it froze [04:13] it didnt give any more [04:14] defcon_: What are the lines before that? [04:16] I dont remember, let me try and think, it all looked normal [04:17] something about b**** doesnt have a config file, I know its an app for security policies [04:17] but I didnt enable it [04:19] I know [04:19] bastille does not have a configuration file [04:19] thats it [04:20] I did not set anything for bastille, so it shouldnt effect anything I dont think [04:20] I just removed bastille === johanbr [n=j@blk-89-207-129.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === defcon_ [n=defcon@70-58-248-128.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF1F38.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:17] kern.log prints: "pnp: Failed to activate device 00:06." How can I determine what '00:06' stands for? [05:19] lspci [05:22] No [05:25] johanbr: My lspci -vv outputs in the format xxxx:yy:zz.z. How does this format map to the pnp format aa::bb? [05:25] aa:bb [05:26] It doesn't [05:26] x=a and y=b, I think. [05:26] no. [05:26] god. [05:26] That output isn't from the pci system [05:27] bullgard4, install pnputils and run lspnp. [05:27] Oh... sorry for spreading misinformation. [05:58] kylem: lspnp prints: "00:06 PNP0303 IBM enhanced keyboard (101/102-key, PS/2 mouse support)." -- Thank you very much. [05:58] bullgard4, no problemo. [05:58] EE: Missing modules (start begging for mercy) === lamont crys [06:02] kylem: so are we already committed to -9.26? [06:02] pardon? [06:02] hppa64.modules was also incorrect. [06:02] mind you, I'm happy just pushing -9.25hppa1 for the moment, in my archive [06:03] as long as we make sure things get right in -9.26 when it does hit... [06:03] i have a few patches i want in tribe4, but they're likely abi-breaking, so i'll have to schedule them with Ben. === lamont has pushed the good modules file to lamont/hppa-ia64.git, will just drop -9.25hppa1 in the hppa archive for now. [06:04] build takes a couple hours, so we'll know in the morning if it's any good. [06:05] if it's just a simple patch, please just post it to kernel-team (instead of asking for a pull for just a single commit) [06:05] I'll post the diff, although it's basically a "replace hppa64.modules with the good one" [06:05] ok. [06:06] I wonder... if it's -9.25hppa1 do I want it to be abi/2.6.22-9.25 or abi/2.6.22-9.24? [06:07] 25 [06:27] lamont, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/130078 [06:28] defcon_: and what did it say _before_ those two lines? [06:28] full context is kinda important... [06:28] before it said that it said cannot load bastille config, I never configured it so I dont believe thats a problem [06:29] I had to write down then type that out whats on there hehe [06:29] before that it said loading network interfaces [06:29] and thats it [06:29] brb [06:32] ok === calc [n=ccheney@conr-adsl-209-169-124-200.consolidated.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [07:35] lamont, is there a way to get the log without writing it all down [07:35] or a script or something to log it all [07:36] defcon_: personally, I tend to use a camera [07:36] hehe [07:36] serial consoles are also kinda cool [07:38] i could enable bootlogd [07:38] ./etc/default/bootlogd [07:38] im suprised it is disabled by default [07:42] kylem: fwiw, the diff is 5kb, 500 lines, all of it hppa64.modules [07:42] short enough to just email to the list [07:42] once the build succeeds [07:42] s/once/if/ [07:43] Although I have every confidence in your test building process, LaMont. :P [07:43] brb reboot [07:43] infinity: heh./ === ivoks [n=ivoks@20-182.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [07:43] the only oddity is that it's test-building -9.25hppa1 instead of -9.26 [07:45] it's doing hppa64/modules build right now... I wish it'd hurry up [07:46] hrm.. should be OTOO 40 minutes === defcon [n=defcon@70-58-248-128.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:15] I see bootlogd is disabled, and broken [08:15] any other app to log the boot seq so I can get a kernel log of it Panicing [08:15] I dont have a digital camera to snap it === ICU [n=me@sechzig.dd.ewetel.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === defcon [n=defcon@70-58-248-128.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:33] new kernel update still bombs when it see's my belkin usb dongle === ivoks [n=ivoks@20-182.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:44] will a kern.log help with a kernel panic === ivoks [n=ivoks@20-182.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === abogani [n=alessio@adsl203-157-083.mclink.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ivoks_ [n=ivoks@20-182.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-kernel.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Topic for #ubuntu-kernel: Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | Kernel Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam | Latest kernel upload: 2.6.22-9.21 | Latest news: -rt and -xen kernels re-added | New Kernel Team machine: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/ === Topic (#ubuntu-kernel): set by crimsun at Thu Aug 2 02:46:21 2007 === ivoks [n=ivoks@20-182.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === SerCanii [n=sercanii@88.231.69.179] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Nafallo_ [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [11:04] mjg59: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32346/ <-- that's what I could save from the serial window booting with apic=debug [11:05] mjg59: http://home.nafallo.info/bugs/sata_nv_take2.txt <-- and that's with the drives at ports 3 and 4. === Nafallo adds more to the last URL as he sees it one the console === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === abogani [n=alessio@adsl203-157-083.mclink.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:15] Nafallo: Does acpi_use_timer_override work? [01:16] mjg59: instead of noacpi? [01:16] apic even [01:18] Yes [01:20] we shall see. brb. === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:28] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32360/ [01:28] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32361/ [01:29] the first one without apic=debug [01:35] http://home.nafallo.info/bugs/sata_nv_take3.txt === EtienneG [n=etienne@ubuntu/member/EtienneG] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:35] mjg59: any ideas? :-) [01:38] putting current gutsy -server on there should work, right? === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:53] well, that didn't work... :-P [02:04] Wow. Your hardware is impressively broken. [02:05] ASA M2N-E [02:05] ASUS even === ivoks [n=ivoks@37-93.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:06] mjg59: so. what can I do? :-) [02:07] Get a new motherboard? [02:07] ouch [02:07] Hm. apic=debug doesn't seem to have helped much. [02:08] indeed it didn't :-/ [02:09] There ought to have been a dump of the apic mappings [02:11] can I force it to do that on the running system or somethiing? :-) [02:12] Oh, wait, I see the output now [02:16] mjg59: I found logcheck have nice logs. do you want all the latest reboots? ;-) [02:23] No, I don't think that would really help [02:24] ehrm. I think you might want to see this one... what's you mailaddress? [02:27] ah, no. seems the .txt on the server has the info. === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF1F38.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:29] Nafallo: It, uh, seems to have the same problem? [02:30] they all have :-P [02:31] hmm. a friend told me to remove the disabling code from spurious.c :-P [02:33] Nafallo: So why would I want to look at that one especially? [02:33] I suspect your machine just has wrong IRQ routing for the noapic case [02:33] You could try pci=noacpi [02:34] But it would be more interesting to fix the actual bug (the fact that it doesn't seem willing to boot with the apic) [02:34] Have you tried the 64-bit version? [02:34] I agree. but what more can I do to nail down the cause? [02:35] yes. when I removed all drives except the raptors and installed gutsy tribe-3 x86_64 server [02:35] mjg59: (sorry for distraction) could you take a look at bug 119130 when you have time; it has a solution, so it should be an easy one... [02:37] Nafallo: And? [02:39] mjg59: same thing. [02:39] Nafallo: Which same thing? [02:40] the irq 7: nobody cared thing [02:40] Nafallo: And without noapic? [02:40] and had to boot with noapic [02:40] ivoks: I don't really have time to deal with acpi-support right now [02:40] With the same failure message? [02:40] yes. [02:40] dapper worked though :-) [02:40] mjg59: ok [02:41] with noapic... [02:41] so "worked" [02:42] atleast I didn't get the irq7 on 2.6.15 :-) === tuxmaniac [n=tuxmania@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:52] Anyone else have a Turion x2 laptop that they are running or have tried to run gutsy on? [03:53] rtg: I'm going to start a new thread on lkml about this problem...it's pretty serious regression for us [03:54] BenC: There are several LP reports that I think are related. [03:57] rtg: any pointers? [03:59] I'll see if I can round 'em up. [04:11] BenC: btw, more hppa tweaks for .26 :-( === ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:lamont] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | Kernel Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam | Latest kernel upload: 2.6.22-9.25 | Latest news: -rt and -xen kernels re-added | New Kernel Team machine: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/ [04:14] rtg: Cc'd you [04:15] imagelist=$(cat kernel-versions | grep ^hppa | awk '{print $4}') && \ [04:15] for i in $imagelist; do \ [04:15] dpkg -x $(ls ../linux-image-$i\_*hppa.deb) \ [04:15] debian/d-i-hppa; \ [04:15] done [04:15] dpkg-deb: --extract takes at most two arguments (.deb and directory) === lamont grumbles about that code dying when there are downrev versions of linux-image-$foo in the parent directory === Nafallo ponder how he'll fix this problem for now. [04:24] Nafallo: override the PCI slot IRQ's in the BIOS? [04:25] Nafallo: in a lot of cases, the "irqX and nobody care" is a symptom of a broken BIOS, so check for an update on that as well [04:25] BenC: thanks :-) [04:26] a slightly more expensive solution is PCI-E 3ware RAID1 ;-) [04:26] but I'll check this one out first :-) [04:26] I should have PNPOS installed in BIOS, right? :-) [04:27] should, yes [04:30] well, I'll look soon enough then. [04:30] need to put VGA in the box again :-P [04:33] hmm. beta bios? ;-) [04:33] http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&model=M2N-E <-- /me is confused [05:12] BenC: Could you enable linux-image-debug build for rt? Thanks. [05:12] abogani: can't, the custom-binary builds don't support that [05:13] BenC: Uh, sorry! === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:29] kylem: Do you have a Turion laptop? [05:29] nope. [05:29] i only have one amd box these days. [05:32] BenC: There's a discussion about missing timer interrupts on mobile AMDs on lkml right now [05:42] mjg59: ah, that's exactly what I need, thanks [05:43] mjg59: subject? [05:46] ACPI on Averatec 2370 [05:46] nolapic_timer ought to work if it's the same issue [05:50] Regarding the issue described above that Frank and I are having, I've [05:50] narrowed it down to commit e9e2cdb4[1] : [PATCH] clockevents: i386 drivers [05:50] heh, must be the same problem. [05:52] mjg59: It didn't work for me [05:52] kylem: same commit that Tim and I came up with [05:52] so three of us separately bisected to the same one [05:53] check out the message from Linus there. [05:53] yeah, I'm about to test that [05:53] kylem: data point, x86_64 kernel boots fine for me [05:53] BenC, it would, it uses completely different code. === pmjdebruijn [n=pmjdebru@ds9.pcode.nl] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:54] another reason to merge i386/x86_64 :/ [05:54] Andi insists on maintaining different timer code because, erm, well. [05:55] BenC, well, x86_64 hasn't got the new time code yet, because it's still buggy. (clearly. :) === amitk_ [n=amit@a81-197-157-76.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ivoks [n=ivoks@37-93.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:13] mjg59: Patch looks good. Can you send it with a sign-off? [06:13] amitk_: Didn't it have one? [06:14] amitk_: Oh - I tried to mail you, but amitk@u.c doesn't work [06:14] It's on lkml and usb-dev [06:14] mjg59, it's just amit@ [06:17] mjg59: thanks [06:22] rebooting to test the amd broken timer thing === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === stgraber [n=stgraber@dakara.stgraber.org] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:29] sweet, it worked [06:32] yeah, i figured it would. the probelm seems to be with nohz, you can't turn off the lapic timer [06:33] I wonder if "nolapic nohz=on" would work [06:33] err nohz=off [06:34] kylem: do you think forcing "return 1" is a good work around for us to use? [06:34] in production I mean [06:35] kylem: does a broken lapic timer mean that kernel disabled nohz? [06:35] i say we add the proper define in now (test the cpuid) and reevaluate the decision after before -rc? [06:35] a lot of testing should happen for beta, so we can see if the issue reoccurs now that we know what to do... [06:36] kylem: you sounds like you're on top of this...can you get a patch in, and a new kernel today (or before Monday)? [06:37] BenC, er, well, need info from you or tim first. [06:37] let me know what you need and I can get it [06:37] (b) make that function print out the values it uses for debugging (ie the [06:37] xtended family and model numbers, and the MSR_K8_ENABLE_C1E MSR [06:37] I assume cpuid [06:37] values)? [06:37] right. [06:37] ok === bradley [n=bradley@CPE-24-208-44-208.new.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-122-108.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === johanbr [n=j@blk-89-207-129.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === IntuitiveNipple [n=TJ@alexandros.tjworld.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === defcon [n=defcon@70-58-248-128.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === defcon [n=defcon@70-58-248-128.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === defcon [n=defcon@70-58-248-128.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:00] BenC, mjg59: I think the damn upgrade fixed it. [08:00] BIOS [08:00] Nafallo: Hurrah. Does it work without noapic now? [08:00] mjg59: I think so. I'll check my commandline :-) [08:01] [ 64.748254] Kernel command line: root=/dev/md1 ro console=tty0 console=ttyS0,38400n8 break=premount [08:01] :-D [08:01] Excellent. [08:01] too easy :-P [08:01] why didn't I think about this before? :-) [08:12] BenC or mjg59: Am I smoking crack on this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/129477 ? What does a Synaptics touchpad do under windows that these guys expect? [08:13] rtg: It's a new-model ALPS pad. The kernel doesn't recognise it. === ketrox [n=ketrox@Xdf8c.x.pppool.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:13] mjg59: So PS/2 emulation is the best we can expect w/Feisty, right? [08:13] With Feisty, yes [08:14] mjg59: Thanks. [08:15] rtg: In PS/2 emulation mode it only reports relative motion. In native mode it gives absolute coordinates which give the synaptics userspace driver the ability to implement additional functionality (like scrolling) [08:15] I guess I've never used a touchpad like taht. [08:16] Basically everything (other than very old stuff and bleeding-edge alps) works like that in Linux [08:19] http://home.nafallo.info/bugs/sata_nv.txt btw :-) [08:19] I can't see anything weird :-) === macd [n=d@cl-116.atl-01.us.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:21] Yeah, looks fine [08:21] Note how stuff is all on different interrupts now [08:26] we are tptally against putting 2.6.23 in multiverse right? [08:26] totally even [08:26] Do you mean universe? [08:27] yeah sorry [08:27] And I suspect the answer is yes [08:27] someone asked this this morning im getting around to it now [08:27] i am against it [08:27] once gutsy stable we cant really touch it [08:28] We've had newer kernels in universe before, and it was a complete disaster. [08:29] So, yeah, we're pretty firmly against repeating that fiasco. [08:30] Oh, yes, I'd forgotten that [08:30] 2.6.11, wasn't it? [08:30] Back in Hoary [08:30] Yeah. === mjg59 shudders === tuxmaniac [n=tuxmania@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === cjwatson_ [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [09:24] mjg59: I'm about to instrument a Feisty kernel to extract the Dell 1420 ALPS touchpad E7 report. Is there an easier way? Do you think simply adding alps_model_info will enable the scroll bars? [09:25] rtg: The issue came up on lkml - simply adding the device to the table didn't seem to work, so I suspect the protocol has changed slightly [09:25] mjg59: drat. === cjwatson [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === johanbr_ [n=j@blk-224-156-151.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === johanbr_ [n=j@blk-224-156-151.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF0371.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === cobman [n=justinas@62.212.202.3] has joined #ubuntu-kernel