[02:01] <gnomefreak> good morning
[03:10] <gnomefreak> asac: do you have a few i need a hint
[03:11] <asac> sure
[03:11] <asac> gnomefreak: can you try https://code.launchpad.net/~asac/network-manager/ubuntu.0.6.x.dev
[03:11] <asac> just branch + build + install and see if nothing works anymore :)
[03:11] <asac> its complete ... so you don't need an orig to test
[03:12] <gnomefreak> asac: can you look at http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8560865/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-i386.ardour_1%3A2.0.3-1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz  i found the file and the lines and tooltips is #include
[03:12] <asac> hmmm waita bit ... its not yet updated ... revision 43 is latest on dev branch
[03:12] <asac> what application is that gnomefreak ?
[03:13] <gnomefreak> ardour its a scons failure
[03:13] <asac> he?
[03:13] <asac> does ardour ship gtkmm sources ?
[03:14] <gnomefreak> yes atleast it has those dirs
[03:14] <asac> or what does it attemt to build?
[03:14] <gnomefreak> it builds locally
[03:14] <asac> thats not good
[03:15] <gnomefreak> libs/gtkmm2/gtk/gtkmm/toolbar.cc: In member function 'Gtk::Tooltips* Gtk::Toolbar::get_tooltips_object() const':
[03:15] <gnomefreak> libs/gtkmm2/gtk/gtkmm/toolbar.cc:522: error: 'const struct _GtkToolbar' has no member named 'tooltips'
[03:15] <gnomefreak> scons: *** [libs/gtkmm2/gtk/gtkmm/toolbar.os]  Error 1
[03:15] <gnomefreak> oops too many
[03:15] <gnomefreak> scons: building terminated because of errors.
[03:15] <gnomefreak> make: *** [debian/stamp-scons-build]  Error 2
[03:17] <gnomefreak> problem i found is that in libs/gtkmm2/gtk/gtkmm/toolbar.cc it includes the tooltips in it and later makes use of it but dont quote me on this but seems like a typo in that Tooltips* should be Toolltips
[03:17] <gnomefreak> maybe
[03:18] <asac> gnomefreak: did that package build before?
[03:18] <asac> or is it a new upstream version?
[03:19] <gnomefreak> i dont think it built this version yet
[03:19] <gnomefreak> it being the automated build services ubutnu uses
[03:20] <gnomefreak> ok its building
[03:20] <gnomefreak> back to looking at this
[03:21] <gnomefreak> wait a minute
[03:24] <gnomefreak> asac: you sadi i didnt need orig.tar for this builkd on n-m right?
[03:25] <asac> yes
[03:25] <gnomefreak> i branched build failed
[03:25] <gnomefreak> pretty badly too
[03:25] <asac> gnomefreak: its not up to date
[03:25] <asac> launchpad failed to sync
[03:25] <gnomefreak> will try to pull
[03:26] <asac> gnomefreak: http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/nm.tar.gz
[03:26] <asac> download that instead
[03:26] <asac> launchpad is broken
[03:26] <gnomefreak> ok is this set up for bzr bd or normal build
[03:26] <asac> bzr or normal
[03:27] <gnomefreak> ok grabbing and setting it up
[03:29] <gnomefreak> brb
[03:45] <gnomefreak> ok building it looks like
[04:23] <gnomefreak> the issue with ardour is it only builds against gtk 2.10 and we are building on 2.11
[04:34] <asac> gnomefreak: look in ardour configure.in
[04:35] <asac> maybe you can tell it where to pull gtkmm from
[04:35] <asac> a.e. to use system gtkmm instead of in-source one
[04:35] <asac> that is most likely the reason for your build failure
[04:49] <gnomefreak> asac: cant really in -motu we have upstream devel for ardour and hes shooting down most of the config options
[04:50] <gnomefreak> ah looks like i can pull changes
[04:50] <gnomefreak> trying to build n-m again
[04:53] <asac> gnomefreak: wait another seconf
[04:53] <asac> gnomefreak: rev 45
[04:53] <asac> if you ahve that then its good
[04:54] <gnomefreak> now i do :)
[04:55] <asac> Jazzva: hi
[04:55] <Jazzva> asac: Hello...
[04:55] <asac> Jazzva: lets talk in public
[04:55] <asac> i hate typing /msg :)
[04:55] <Jazzva> asac: Ok
[04:55] <asac> well ... depends on what you want
[04:55] <asac> if you want to have pointers, ask ... but please ask specific things :)
[04:55] <asac> otherwise, just ask me when you want :)
[04:56] <asac> Jazzva: i am pretty after my students using bzr to maintain their packages ... are you familiar with bzr package maintenance?
[04:56] <Jazzva> asac: I will :)...
[04:56] <Jazzva> asac: Not really...
[04:56] <Jazzva> :/
[04:56] <asac> Jazzva: thats not a problem
[04:56] <asac> its straight forward ... maybe take a look at the wiki
[04:56] <asac> there should be information
[04:57] <asac> its definitly worth it ... especially since it makes reviewing your work lot more simpler
[04:57] <asac> if you publish them in bzr
[04:57] <Jazzva> asac: Ok, gonna take a look at it now. :)
[04:57] <asac> great
[04:57] <asac> Jazzva: so what are your main interests?
[04:58] <asac> Jazzva: so if I see a task pop up somewhere of which i think that it might be beneficial for you, I can present it to you :)
[04:59] <Jazzva> asac: Well, to give to the community as much as I can O:)... Specifically, I'm interested into packaging new programs that are still not in the repos. Also, I would like to fix bugs... As I have never done it before, I guess fixing packaging bugs would be ok for a start.
[04:59] <Jazzva> asac: Translations too, but I guess that's not in this "course" :)...
[04:59] <asac> Jazzva: ok ... i think its pretty good to explore each of these areas
[05:00] <asac> Jazzva: e.g. do each of everything ... e.g. look for bugs that appear to be simple ... try to fix the,m
[05:00] <asac> if they are packaging issues
[05:00] <asac> Jazzva: package /adopt a package here and there
[05:01] <asac> usually packages should go to debian though ... but I can sponsor them for you
[05:01] <Jazzva> asac: Hmm, I read about the way to send them to Ubuntu and then commit to Debian.
[05:01] <asac> Jazzva: would be really cool if you could help a bit on mozilla bugs though ;)
[05:02] <Jazzva> asac: How much do I need to know about Mozilla programs' structure :)?
[05:02] <asac> Jazzva: yes .. both directions are possible ... but if you package something new ... you should try to become debian+ubuntu maintainer
[05:02] <asac> Jazzva: not much
[05:02] <Jazzva> asac: Then I guess I could take a look
[05:02] <asac> Jazzva: you can focus on just a subset of bugs
[05:02] <asac> Jazzva: we have categorized them
[05:03] <asac> Jazzva: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Tags
[05:03] <asac> Jazzva: just look at the mt-needtestcase and mt-needtester bugs
[05:03] <Jazzva> asac: As for deb&ubuntu maintainer, I was hoping to do something like that...
[05:03] <asac> Jazzva: if you could go through them and get them sorted out it would be of great benefit for our team :)
[05:03] <asac> mt-needtester bugs needs to be verified ... e.g. someone in bug claimed to have a testcase
[05:04] <asac> mt-needtestcase bugs need to be guided to get a testcase or if its not possible close them at some point
[05:04] <asac> there are links on the wiki page that give you a list of bugs that need this kind of work :)(
[05:04] <asac> Jazzva: ok cool ... if you need anything let me know :)
[05:04] <asac> i am always here ;)
[05:05] <asac> at least pretty often
[05:05] <Jazzva> asac: Ok, I'll take a look at bugs and bzr now :)... Thanks :).
[05:05] <asac> Jazzva: cool
[05:05] <asac> cu soon
[05:05] <gnomefreak> n-m looks like it was building before revo 45 now its failing
[05:06] <Jazzva> asac: Ok :)...
[05:06] <asac> gnomefreak: thats bull-shit
[05:06] <gnomefreak> i got to dh_install before revo 45
[05:06] <asac> he?
[05:06] <asac> gnomefreak: clean everything up
[05:06] <asac> e.g. bzr revert
[05:06] <asac> bzr clean-tree
[05:06] <asac> then bzr st should be empta
[05:06] <asac> then it should build :)
[05:07] <asac> gnomefreak: sorry if i am wrong ... but i am pretty sure that it builds
[05:08] <gnomefreak> http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/644394   im cleaning now but that is the failure
[05:08] <asac> gnomefreak: let me see
[05:08] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah :)
[05:08] <asac> gnomefreak: thats my bad
[05:08] <asac> :)
[05:08] <gnomefreak> bzr clean-tree isnt deleting anything
[05:08] <asac> let me fix it
[05:08] <gnomefreak> ok
[05:09] <asac> gnomefreak: pull again
[05:10] <gnomefreak> ok
[05:10] <asac> rev 46
[05:10] <gnomefreak> ok trying again
[05:10] <asac> i am building as well now :)
[05:10] <gnomefreak> :)
[05:10] <asac> i added 45 without testing ;)
[05:10] <asac> because it was an *oh so simple patch* ;)
[05:11] <gnomefreak> i can see why you didnt test it than
[05:12] <asac> ok its in
[05:12] <asac> build builds for me
[05:12] <asac> let me know if you see any regressions
[05:14] <gnomefreak> back to dh_* so i would say its all good
[05:15] <gnomefreak> #kubuntu-devel is having bbq gnomefreak :(
[05:16] <Jazzva> asac: Umm, a question... I'm trying to reproduce this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/116959 . It is said that it occured in v. 2.0.0.3, should I report that it doesn't occur in 2.0.0.6?
[05:16] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 116959 in firefox "firefox crashed" [High,Incomplete] 
[05:16] <gnomefreak> ask if they can reproduce it in 2.0.0.6
[05:17] <gnomefreak> brb reboot to see if n-m works
[05:18] <asac> Jazzva: yes gnomefreak is right ... ask if they can reproduce on latest ... if they still insist, note that we still need a tester and keep it open
[05:18] <asac> if you are second tester to confirm that its unreproducible you can reject the bug
[05:19] <asac> exception are crashes ... keep them open and tag them mt-reject-candidate
[05:19] <asac> those are treated a bit different
[05:20] <asac> Jazzva: looking at this bug ... its a crasher ... and most likely the testcase is not good enough ... you can tag it mt-needtestcase again
[05:20] <asac> and remove mt-needtester
[05:20] <asac> after you verified that this testcase alone does not bring a crash
[05:20] <Jazzva> asac: Posted a comment.
[05:20] <Jazzva> And verified that this doesn't bring a crash (at least not in 2.0.0.6)
[05:20] <gnomefreak> on wired gutsy works great i still havent turned laptop to gutsy
[05:21] <asac> if he still claims that the crash happens its again mt-needtestcase as apparently we cannot reproduce with these instructions alone ... usually we need info about extensions/plugins et al
[05:21] <asac> Jazzva: ^^
[05:21] <asac> gnomefreak: ok
[05:22] <Jazzva> asac: Hmm, I already retagged it...
[05:22] <Jazzva> and removed mt-needtester...
[05:22] <asac> yes thats correct
[05:22] <asac> drop instructions what is left ... e.g. a better testcase :)
[05:22] <gnomefreak> asac: what did you do to sunbird?
[05:23] <Jazzva> asac: Ok :)...
[05:23] <asac> gnomefreak: he?
[05:23] <asac> gnomefreak: its a new package
[05:23] <asac> gnomefreak: i didn't provide transitional ones
[05:23] <gnomefreak> oh this is first upload
[05:23] <asac> its not lightning ... but lightning-extension now
[05:23] <gnomefreak> ah
[05:23] <gnomefreak> thats right
[05:23] <asac> should be in my branch
[05:23] <asac> you need to merge it over to yours i gues
[05:23] <asac> when you have done let me know
[05:23] <asac> so i can pick your improvements
[05:24] <asac> (if not alreayd meerged)
[05:24] <Jazzva> BTW, one totally unrelated question... gnomefreak, how stable gutsy is now :)?
[05:24] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: not so much atm
[05:24] <asac> gnomefreak: ok sunbird is up to date in bzr now
[05:24] <gnomefreak> ok i have to find where i have it :(
[05:24] <asac> Jazzva: for me it works ... but i wouldn't switch my production system to it :)
[05:24] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: Ok, thanks...
[05:25] <asac> Jazzva: but i think about doing it every day
[05:25] <Jazzva> asac: I was thinking to switch to it somewhere in Septembre... Figured it would be relatively stable by then...
[05:25] <asac> Jazzva: that should be true
[05:25] <gnomefreak> there are some little nightmares atm thats the reason #kubuntu-devel was having bbq gnomefreak
[05:26] <asac> well kubuntu is a different thing
[05:26] <asac> i guess they are now migrating to new kde
[05:26] <gnomefreak> nope
[05:27] <gnomefreak> kde 3.5.7 or whatever it is
[05:27] <gnomefreak> its python-sip4 causing issues
[05:33] <gnomefreak> asac: something is wrong i only was able to pull evo76 for some reason
[05:37] <asac_the_2nd> evo76?
[05:37] <asac_the_2nd> whats that?
[05:38] <gnomefreak> revo
[05:38] <gnomefreak> its fixed
[05:38] <gnomefreak> i think
[05:39] <asac> k
[05:41] <gnomefreak> sometime today i will look at sunbird but im thinking its an autoconf problem? maybe autoconf is bypassing the sunbird.cfg
[05:41] <gnomefreak> just a thought
[06:16] <gnomefreak> grrrrrr
[06:27] <Jazzva> asac: I was trying to reproduce this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/121685 . The radio played for about 40 minutes (long lunch and good cartoon on CN) and after that I couldn't do anything on the computer, I couldn't even switch to terminal and kill the process.
[06:27] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121685 in firefox "firefox crashed" [Medium,Incomplete] 
[06:28] <Jazzva> Somebody mentioned out_of_memory error, so I suppose that happened too here (the comp got blocked)...
[06:28] <Jazzva> *here too
[06:31] <gnomefreak> taking a quick look
[06:31] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: what version of flash ar eyou using?
[06:31] <Jazzva> Hmm, lemme check...
[06:33] <Jazzva> Hmm, where can I check that? I think I installed flashplugin-nonfree
[06:34] <Jazzva> before... and I'm sure it's updated, so I suppose it's this version: 9.0.48.0.0ubuntu1~7.04.1
[06:35] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree
[06:35] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[06:35] <asac> gnomefreak: you see that lockup as well?
[06:35] <gnomefreak> asac: ill test soon
[06:36] <gnomefreak> in middle of something in firefox atm
[06:36] <asac> Jazzva: if gnomefreak sees it as well, you can move it to state confirmed ... and tag it mt-eval ... mt-upstream
[06:36] <Jazzva> asac: Well, it took 40 minutes over here to lockup...
[06:36] <asac> yes right ... what does user claim?
[06:36] <Jazzva> 15-30 minutes
[06:36] <asac> how long does it take for him?
[06:36] <asac> yeah ... then it sounds reasonable
[06:36] <Jazzva> Can that depend on amount of RAM?
[06:37] <Jazzva> But, I suppose that he has more than I do :/
[06:37] <gnomefreak> swap maybe
[06:37] <Jazzva> And has more swap than me :)...
[06:37] <gnomefreak> swap is used moreso than ram
[06:37] <Jazzva> Jul 24 20:17:42 barcelona kernel: [ 3825.644000]  Total swap = 1485972kB
[06:37] <Jazzva> I have about 750 MB...
[06:38] <asac> yeah ... move it to confirmed then ... assign flashplugin-nonfree
[06:38] <asac> ask task (if it hasn't already
[06:38] <gnomefreak> would be nice if i knew wtf they are saying :(
[06:38] <asac> and tag it mt-upstream
[06:38] <asac> gnomefreak: who is "they" ?
[06:38] <gnomefreak> asac: not so sure its flash but im 80% sure it is
[06:38] <gnomefreak> this site
[06:38] <asac> yeah ... its flash if it runs out of memory
[06:39] <gnomefreak> dutch im thinking
[06:39] <asac> by just playing flash
[06:39] <asac> so its flashplugin-nonfree bug
[06:39] <asac> does it work with gnash btw?
[06:39] <asac> Jazzva: can you try?
[06:39] <asac> mozilla-plugin-gnash
[06:39] <gnomefreak> asac: oh hold on i might be using gnash
[06:39] <Jazzva> brb...
[06:39] <asac> gnomefreak: right mous click on flash film should show it to you
[06:39] <asac> if there is a reayl popup then its gnash
[06:40] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[06:40] <asac> otherwise its flash with its crappy grey thing
[06:40] <gnomefreak> guess what
[06:40] <gnomefreak> its playing it without either installed
[06:40] <gnomefreak> lol
[06:42] <gnomefreak> not getting anything with gnash
[06:45] <gnomefreak> testing flash now
[06:46] <gnomefreak> ok going to look for lunch while this plays
[06:46] <Jazzva> asac: Sorry, phone... I'll test it with gnash too, just to be sure. I'll go out in about 20 minutes, and gonna start testing then :). Should I remove all other flash plugins, or can I switch to use gnash somewhere else?
[06:47] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: yes
[06:47] <gnomefreak> remove flash and install gnash
[06:47] <Jazzva> Ok :).
[06:47] <gnomefreak> well gnash-mozilla*
[06:48] <Jazzva> Ok, installing it now. And if that happens with gnash too, then it's mozilla bug?
[06:48] <gnomefreak> not really
[06:49] <Jazzva> That site's bug? :)
[06:49] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: its not gonna play with gnash so it stays flash bug
[06:50] <gnomefreak> it cant really be a site issue as top isnt showing anything that high yet here
[06:50] <Jazzva> Oh, sorry. I misread when you said "it's not playing with gnash"
[06:52] <Jazzva> Hmm, what's the name of the flash plugin for mozilla package? I was sure I had flashplugin-nonfree, but it seems I don't have it installed.
[06:53] <gnomefreak> it is
[06:53] <gnomefreak> flashplugin-nonfree
[06:56] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: Hmm... I think I have the same situation as yours - I didn't have gnash, nor flashplugin-nonfree installed and it opened the flash player on that site.
[06:57] <Jazzva> But it's playing with adobe flash player 9 :/...
[06:57] <asac> Jazzva: it should be an alternative in gutsy now
[06:58] <Jazzva> asac: So, how can I remove it?
[06:58] <asac> uninstall is easiest
[06:58] <Jazzva> I searched the installed packages for flash, and only got that gnash is installed...
[06:58] <asac> then install mozilla-plugin-gnash
[06:58] <gnomefreak> mines still playing
[06:59] <asac> well
[06:59] <asac> about:plugins
[06:59] <asac> should show where plugin is living in fs
[06:59] <gnomefreak> do i need to do anything to make it crash or just let it polay
[06:59] <asac> e.g. path to .so file
[06:59] <gnomefreak> play
[07:00] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: I just left it as it is... it crashed :).
[07:00] <gnomefreak> ok ill go look for food than
[07:00] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: Have a nice meal :)
[07:01] <gnomefreak> ty :)
[07:01] <Jazzva> asac: And how to remove the library?
[07:01] <asac> where is it?
[07:01] <Jazzva> It just says "File name: libflashplayer.so"
[07:04] <asac_the_2nd> maybe its in $HOME/.mozilla/plugins/
[07:04] <asac_the_2nd> ... if you installed it manually once
[07:04] <asac_the_2nd> Jazzva: ^^
[07:04] <Jazzva> Just flashplayer.xpt...
[07:04] <Jazzva> Can I just delete it? :)
[07:05] <asac_the_2nd> yes
[07:05] <asac_the_2nd> what is in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins ?
[07:05] <asac_the_2nd> is there a libflashplayer.so ?
[07:06] <asac_the_2nd> if so try to see if it belongs to some package with dpkg -S libflashplayer.so
[07:06] <Jazzva> Cool :)... Gonna try it out. I have to go out for an half an hour. There is a libflashplayer.so
[07:07] <Jazzva> Nope, it says it doesn't belong
[07:07] <Jazzva> dpkg: /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so not found.
[07:08] <Jazzva> gtg. I'll leave it to play with Flash player again :/...
[07:18] <asac> Jazzva: then just remove that
[07:36] <Jazzva> asac: Ok, will do that now. BTW, so far, the radio is on fo 27 min and everything seems good.
[07:43] <gnomefreak> thats always a good sign :(
[07:45] <Jazzva> Hmm... ok, the radio is not working with gnash. BTW, it is the flash player is over my Konversation window... I think it's because of Compiz Fusion...
[07:45] <Jazzva> without "it is"
[07:45] <gnomefreak> it crashed here
[07:46] <Jazzva> Hmm, with flashplugin?
[07:46] <asac> ok i am out for the weekend ... tomorrow i won't have internet access ... so cu sunday
[07:46] <Jazzva> asac: Have a nice weekend
[07:46] <asac> have to run to catch train ;)
[07:46] <asac> thanks
[07:46] <gnomefreak> mark it confirmed and set mt-upstream
[07:46] <Jazzva> I'll work at these bugs...
[07:46] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: Ok
[07:47] <gnomefreak> wait
[07:47] <gnomefreak> damn
[07:47] <gnomefreak> asac: good timing :(
[07:48] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: change it to flashplugin-nonfree mark confirmed and tag mt-eval for the time being
[07:48] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: im gonna try on gutsy same set up ff and flash but different other packages that might make a different
[07:48] <gnomefreak> differnece
[07:49] <Jazzva> Ok, I will... I'll also leave a comment that it crashed on two comps with Feisty...
[07:49] <gnomefreak> what was bug number?
[07:49] <Jazzva> 121685
[07:49] <Jazzva> bug 121685
[07:49] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121685 in firefox "firefox crashed" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121685
[07:50] <gnomefreak> ty
[07:50] <Jazzva> You're welcome.
[07:53] <Jazzva> Just to check... Remove mt-needtester, mark mt-eval? (btw, what "eval" means? Evaluated bug?)
[07:53] <gnomefreak> needs evaluation and yes mt-eval
[07:53] <Jazzva> Mhm, found out about mt-eval.
[07:54] <gnomefreak> the problem with mt-upstream is flash upstream is almost not even there
[07:54] <Jazzva> On Launchpad?
[07:54] <gnomefreak> if i can prove its flash and not another issue than i will figure out wha tto do
[07:55] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: once tagged mt-upstream we hav eto go to adobe and look for this bug
[07:55] <gnomefreak> but i want to make damn sure its flash first
[07:55] <Jazzva> Right...
[07:55] <gnomefreak> i should know by end of day (i hope)
[07:56] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: do you have any other browsers?
[07:56] <Jazzva> Konqueror, Epiphany....
[07:56] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: set up flash in konq and see if you can repoduce it
[07:57] <Jazzva> Ok...
[07:57] <Jazzva> Just to remove gnash first...
[07:57] <gnomefreak> if you can its flash
[07:57] <gnomefreak> yes and install flash
[07:57] <Jazzva> Ok...
[08:04] <gnomefreak> it plays with gnash on gutsy
[08:04] <gnomefreak> waiting for it to crash
[08:05] <gnomefreak> lol same gnash version
[08:05] <Jazzva> And it runs good on gutsy?
[08:05] <gnomefreak> waiting for crash
[08:05] <Jazzva> I mean... it runs? it plays music? :)
[08:05] <gnomefreak> why doesnt gnash in feisty work :(
[08:05] <gnomefreak> itws playing sound
[08:06] <Jazzva> Dunno...
[08:06] <gnomefreak> and the video(or whatever the hell that is)
[08:06] <gnomefreak> asac: we need to find this out when we get time gnash gutsy works gnash feisty doesnt
[08:07] <gnomefreak> ill be back soon i need to get some things here done while this is testing
[08:08] <Jazzva> Ok... I started it in Konqueror...
[08:08] <Jazzva> Off for a few minutes...
[08:15] <gnomefreak> i wish flash would show up in top :( right now 41.7% mem
[08:15] <gnomefreak> 7.3 cpu
[08:18] <gnomefreak> .win 11
[08:21] <Jazzva> Over here: 20.7 21.9   2:31.84 nspluginviewer
[08:21] <Jazzva> CPU MEM
[08:24] <gnomefreak> 50.2 now
[08:24] <gnomefreak> for meme
[08:24] <gnomefreak> mem
[08:24] <gnomefreak> ~10.0 cpu
[08:31] <Jazzva> Hmm... ~33 for mem
[08:31] <Jazzva> and ~22 for CPU
[08:31] <Jazzva> It might be a memory leakage...
[08:32] <gnomefreak> it crashed with gnash in gutsy
[08:33] <Jazzva> So, that means it's not flashplugin?
[08:33] <Jazzva> But, what if it crashes in Konqueror too?
[08:33] <gnomefreak> lets see what happens in konq
[08:33] <gnomefreak> if it crashes in konq im 98% sure its flash
[08:33] <gnomefreak> im about 90% atm
[08:34] <Jazzva> But, why did it crash with gnash too?
[08:34] <Jazzva> Wait...
[08:34] <Jazzva> flash = flashplugin or flash file on site?
[08:34] <gnomefreak> its same flash content
[08:35] <gnomefreak> code wise
[08:35] <Jazzva> Mhm...\
[08:36] <gnomefreak> lets see what happens with konq first
[08:36] <gnomefreak> that will be a tell tale sign of it
[08:37] <Jazzva> Well, it's still playing...
[08:37] <Jazzva> 30minutes...
[08:37] <Jazzva> If it has the same behavior as in Firefox, then it should crash in about 10 minutes...
[08:47] <Jazzva> Hmm, playing for 40 minutes. CPU ~ 25, MEM ~ 45
[08:47] <Jazzva> MEM ~ 50
[08:47] <Jazzva> Woah
[08:47] <Jazzva> MEM ~ 57
[08:48] <Jazzva> Well, should crash soon, I suppose :/...
[08:53] <gnomefreak> it better
[08:53] <gnomefreak> ill brb reboot
[09:00] <Jazzva_> gnomefreak: It crashed...
[09:00] <Jazzva_> So, I suppose it's a Flash bug...
[09:00] <gnomefreak> good
[09:01] <gnomefreak> it is
[09:01] <gnomefreak> can you mark firefox task on bug to invaild and give reason that it is a flash bug
[09:01] <gnomefreak> or give me number and ill get to it later
[09:01] <Jazzva_> Yes, I can
[09:01] <gnomefreak> hi AlexLatchford  :)
[09:01] <AlexLatchford> Howdy
[09:02] <gnomefreak> ty :)
[09:02] <AlexLatchford> how are you John?
[09:02] <gnomefreak> Jazzva_: when was that bug filed?
[09:02] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: im good and yourself?
[09:02] <AlexLatchford> erm.. im okay.. amazingly busy
[09:02] <Jazzva_> gnomefreak: 2007-06-22
[09:03] <Jazzva_> gnomefreak: Marked the firefox bug as invalid.
[09:03] <gnomefreak> Jazzva_: can i have bug number im gonna see what i can dig up
[09:03] <Jazzva_> bug 121685
[09:03] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: i know that feeling
[09:03] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121685 in flashplugin-nonfree "firefox crashed" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121685
[09:03] <gnomefreak> ty
[09:03] <Jazzva_> No prob
[09:08] <AlexLatchford> Yeah.. ive picked up a job in the city
[09:08] <gnomefreak> who has a win pc?
[09:08] <AlexLatchford> 9 til 6.30 and with travel it means door to door of 7.30 to about 7.45
[09:08] <gnomefreak> godf
[09:08] <gnomefreak> god*
[09:09] <AlexLatchford> yep.. so I am a little swamped currently lol
[09:10] <gnomefreak> i guess it could be the site
[09:11] <gnomefreak> hi JenFraggle
[09:11] <JenFraggle> hello
[09:11] <JenFraggle> how are you?
[09:11] <gnomefreak> ok im sticking with flash issue and will ping asac next week i think i doubt we will see him this weekened
[09:12] <gnomefreak> JenFraggle: good and yourself
[09:12] <JenFraggle> good thanks
[09:17] <JenFraggle> how do i find bugs that are good for beginners to work on?
[09:17] <JenFraggle> want to add to my beginner wiki page
[09:18] <Jazzva> JenFraggle: I'm a beginner :)... asac told me to look at bugs marked with tags mt-needtestcase and mt-needtester
[09:19] <Jazzva> JenFraggle: at this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Tags
[09:19] <JenFraggle> Jazzva, cool, did you see the beginner wiki page?
[09:19] <Jazzva> JenFraggle: Nope...
[09:20] <Jazzva> What's the link :)?
[09:20] <JenFraggle> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Beginner
[09:20] <Jazzva> Thanks :)
[09:21] <JenFraggle> It's deliberately 'dumbed down' so as to hopefully not put off people who are very new to it all
[09:22] <JenFraggle> save the more technical stuff for the other wiki pages
[09:22] <Jazzva> I get it :)...
[09:34] <Jazzva> Could someone take a look on bug 74116? I think it works fine now, so I would like if someone could take a look...
[09:34] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 74116 in firefox "Very slow and jerky scroll renders browser useless" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/74116
[09:38] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: i updated it
[09:38] <gnomefreak> im gone for a while.
[09:38] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: Cool...
[09:38] <Jazzva> Have fun
[09:38] <gnomefreak> you too
[09:39] <Jazzva> Thanks :)...
[09:56] <JenFraggle> I've updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Beginner
[10:34] <cwong1> asac:  Hi, saw your message late regarding the repository link in moblin.  Sorry for the late response.  I am going to do it later today.  Can we push the current changes in the WORKING Branch to gusty's build repsoitory?
[10:40] <Jazzva> cwong1: AFAIK asac won't be online before Sunday (I think he went off few hours ago).
[10:40] <cwong1> Jazzva: ok thanks
[10:41] <Jazzva> No prob...
[12:02] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: You there?