=== Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-mythtv.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Topic for #ubuntu-mythtv: "Welcome to #ubuntu-mythtv:: Mythbuntu 7.10 Alpha 3: http://www.mythbuntu.org :: Paste logs @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org :: See our wiki for setting up and troubleshooting: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV" === Topic (#ubuntu-mythtv): set by superm1 at Thu Aug 2 01:17:04 2007 === Hugolp [n=jo@217.168.3.246] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === DaveMorris [n=dave@host-212-158-244-26.bulldogdsl.com] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === Tari [n=Tari@CPE-72-133-204-1.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === noiesmo [n=noiesmo@unaffiliated/noiesmo] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === DaveMorris [n=dave@cubert.itri.bton.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === talaren [n=patrick@ip72-213-145-156.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:54] when the back end is running I get this if I run it from the console [02:54] 2007-08-03 14:53:35.626 JobQueue: Commercial Flagging Starting for FUTURAMA recorded from channel 1530 at dv ago 3 14:53:00 2007 [02:54] Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed [02:54] anyone knows what it is? [02:54] yes [02:54] it's a message from qt or X AFAIK [02:54] ignore it ;) [02:54] ok [02:55] but it took like 2 or 3 seconds to handle [02:55] its just my mythtv loading images screen takes like 5 or 6 seconds to appear and I guess something bad configured is slowing it [02:56] what about this: [mpegts @ 0xb72c1ec0] Parser not found for Codec Id: 94211 ! ? [02:57] no [02:57] it's normal that mythrontend takes a bit to load [02:57] it'll be much faster in 0.21 [02:58] ok laga thanks [02:58] 14:49 < Hugolp> what about this: [mpegts @ 0xb72c1ec0] Parser not found for Codec Id: 94211 ! ? [02:58] ^^ i get those too [02:59] should be ok *shrug* [03:00] laga probably ffmpeg isue? [03:00] yup [03:00] but it doesn't hurt i guess [03:01] by the way I got all the icon for the channels for spain for myself and can give them to you in case you are interested [03:02] dont know if any of you are automating the icon thing [03:02] there's a nice icon grabber in trunk [03:02] it'll be in 0.21 :) [03:02] cool, even for Spain? [03:03] open source allways forgets about Spain [03:03] i used it the other day.. it takes some time if you have lots of channels, but it's not too bad [03:03] Hugolp: it worked for germany. they use lyngsat for icons [03:03] I feel like a live in an underdevelop country [03:03] hehe [03:04] anyway, if you need help transalating or any isue for Spain or Catalonia (Mythtv is in catalan as well) you an check with me [03:05] cool :) === superm1 [n=malimonc@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Hugolp [n=jo@217.168.3.246] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === Hugolp [n=jo@217.168.3.246] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Tari [n=Tari@mke-66-97-124-238.milwpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === pteague_work [n=xx10727@ip72-213-145-156.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === foxbuntu___ [n=nfoxqci@12-216-24-171.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === seabag [n=seabag@70-101-97-67.dsl1-field.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:59] laga, you here? [04:59] yup [05:00] superm1: yes [05:01] laga, i think that there is still an issue in the mythweb packages even the -fixes ones [05:01] great :( [05:01] because i added the fixes to the mythbuntu builds [05:01] and some people on -users said they were getting dpkg hanging [05:01] what kind of issue? [05:01] awesome. [05:01] so http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/282071 [05:02] wait a second. flash just killed my firefox. [05:03] ah [05:03] hum [05:03] "uh-oh". [05:03] i responded to that thread this morning [05:03] asking if frsh install [05:03] or upgrade [05:03] but the thing is, i didn't encounter this on any of my test runs [05:03] either fresh install from a purge [05:03] or from an older package [05:03] i still do. i assumed it was a problem with my merge. [05:03] consistently? [05:04] yep [05:04] well what to do then? [05:04] what else about the packaging can be causing it [05:04] and how do i make it happen for me:) [05:05] i have no clue. interestingly enough, it works when i execute those mythweb.* scripts manually. [05:05] heh [05:05] oh i know [05:05] keescook, mentioned something [05:05] add a set -x [05:05] i must have missed the "debugging postinst scripts" in the manual.. [05:05] to the top of hte postinst scripts [05:05] hum, true [05:05] it will tell you the last step its stuck on [05:06] let's try that === superm1 smacks himself for not thinking to mention this sooner [05:06] ;)i need to rebuild plugins anyways === foxxxbuntu [n=unknown@12-216-24-171.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:07] well in an effort to save time (i've gotta leave in a few min, and won't be back for most the weekend), can you just add it to the postinst after partially configuring [05:07] and then try to dpkg --configure -a [05:07] to execute it [05:08] k [05:11] http://www.pastebin.ca/644402 [05:11] superm1: ^^ [05:12] laga, so it exited normally? [05:12] gah [05:12] wai a second, i commented out a bunch of stuff in the postinst [05:13] superm1, did you ever update us so we can kill blueprints === tgm4883 needs to kill things [05:13] tgm4883, i looked around for a setting but didn't find it on a glance [05:13] let me look again [05:13] superm1: hum. again, i get "exit 0" [05:13] laga, so you fixed it? [05:13] :) [05:14] it's hanging. [05:14] yeah [05:14] i fixed it [05:14] heh [05:14] wait i dont get it, so it exit 0's and hangs [05:14] add "db_stop" to the end of the file [05:14] yes. [05:14] it did an exit 0 and hung [05:14] with db_stop, it's OK now i guess [05:14] well if that's all [05:14] that's great to hear [05:15] i believe i actually tried that back then.. ah well, i'm too tired [05:15] i'll try to install a fixed packge === chuk [n=chuk@c-71-234-253-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:15] whoa, who changed our website and didn't tell me [05:15] tgm4883, you should be able to now [05:15] tgm4883, i changed it, i told the channel :) [05:15] you like? [05:15] what is the default password for the myth user that gets created in mythbuntu? [05:16] chuk, that isn't defined [05:16] looks awesome [05:16] meaning no password? [05:16] chuk, meaning you can't login as the mythtv user [05:16] its not intended for that [05:16] ah, ok [05:17] I am having a problem with lirc on the latest mythbuntu [05:17] I have an ATI USB RF remote [05:17] chuk, what sort of problem? [05:17] and I tried both userspace, and non, and I can't get it to recognize the remote [05:17] i.e nothing happens when I push any buttons [05:17] chuk, if you dpkg-reconfiugre lirc [05:17] choose the ATI usb remote option [05:19] userspace one? [05:19] superm1: db_stop seems to fix it. at least it shouldn't brek anything :) [05:20] also, it seems the server in the sources.list is down === pteague_work [n=xx10727@ip72-213-145-156.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:21] any reason it is usign the cs.umn.edu ones over the archive.ubuntu ones? [05:23] chuk, those are closer to the build server, so they are used during the build [05:23] didn't realize they stuck afterward too :) [05:23] ah [05:23] chuk, when you dpkg-reconfigure lirc it asks you for a remote type [05:23] it handles the driver [05:23] it needs [05:23] and such [05:24] right, which one should I select for the ati usb? the userspace one or non? [05:24] I think the non uses the kernel module? [05:24] oh non userspace [05:24] def [05:24] oh, interesting [05:24] it loads a kernel module yes [05:24] laga, where did you put the db_stop? [05:24] I had read some other stuff saying that userspace was the better to use, because the kernel module didn't recognize a bunch of the keys [05:25] chuk, i had bad luck with userspace a year or so ago with my old atiusb remote, but kernel module worked as expected [05:26] thats good enough for me [05:26] you'll see how things work out for you though :) [05:26] superm1: http://www.pastebin.ca/644411 [05:26] superm1: in the postinst [05:26] interesting [05:26] okay i'll commit that to the weekly [05:26] and we'll see if that helps [05:27] I did the dpkg-reconfigure and I still don't get anything [05:27] any other steps I'm missing? [05:27] chuk, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure lirc" [05:27] I had selected the non userspace remote during the install [05:27] oh right [05:27] yes, I did that [05:27] okay [05:27] so type irw [05:27] and try pressing buttons [05:28] nothing happens [05:28] irw looks like it just hangs [05:28] well you can hit ctrl c [05:28] to get out of it [05:28] well take a look at /etc/lirc/lircd.conf [05:29] and make sure that it looks right [05:29] and /etc/lirc/hardware.conf [05:29] device="" [05:30] modules="lirc_dev lirc_atiusb" [05:30] right looks good [05:30] and dmesg [05:30] driver="" [05:30] make sure that the atiusb module loaded [05:32] I get "/build/buildd/linux-source-2.6.22-2.6.22/drivers/input/misc/ati_remote.c: Registered USB driver ATI/X10 RF USB Remote Control v. 2.2.1" [05:32] when grepping for ATI [05:32] yea looks right [05:32] so it loaded [05:33] okay so you have a /dev/lirc0 then for the remote i'm assuming? [05:33] well, I have a /dev/lirc0 [05:33] ati_remote.c is the in-kernel driver, isn't id? [05:33] s/id/it/ [05:33] yes [05:33] btw, I realize this is outside the scope of mythbuntu, feel free to tell me to look elsewhere if you like [05:34] the onyl other thing i can think is that the lircd.conf you have doesn't match the remote [05:34] it looked ok [05:34] had all the usual atiusb nonsense in it [05:34] well i've actually gotta be running right now, i've got to move stuff ot another appt and then have a busy day ahead of me [05:34] where do I need the conf files? [05:34] what does the lirc driver "lirc_dev" do? [05:34] i'll be able to touch bases again some point probably sunday [05:34] wasn't one needed under the home directory, etc? [05:34] is it for the dev/input stuff? [05:34] its a dependency for lirc_atiusb [05:35] irw tries to capture keys describe in lircd.conf [05:35] i'd assume that ati_remote.ko shouldn't be loaded [05:35] buit that-'s just a guess [05:35] oh wait laga your right [05:35] i just looked at what you meant by that [05:35] because that takes over the remote? [05:36] and doesn't allow lirc to use it? [05:36] you may need to rmmod ati_remote [05:36] and then restart lirc so it loads the right lirc_atiusb [05:36] and try then [05:36] if that works, then something needs to be blacklisted for ati_remote [05:36] whats the proper way to re-start lirc? [05:36] yeah, I know in feisty, you need to blacklist the ati remote [05:36] in order to use lirc [05:36] so if it works, file a bug on launchpad against lirc, saying it needs to blacklist ati_remote when kernel driver is selected [05:37] sudo /etc/init.d/lirc restart [05:38] no go, but thanks for getting me started, I'll mess with it some more [05:38] okay, good luck, and oonce you get it figured out (if you do) file a bug, and we can have this fixed automatically for people [05:38] sure thing [05:38] tgm4883, send me a mail if you still can't change blue prints [05:38] you should be able to now thoug [05:39] i'll catch up with you guys later this weekend [05:39] yea i finally figured it out [05:39] was looking for a denied button or something [05:40] I'm not sure if I was suppose to, but I just gutted a blueprint because I think it did have one valid idea [05:40] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+spec/mythbuntu-desktop === tgm4883 [n=tgm4883@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:21] but mythbuntu isn't designed to be used as a PC [06:21] for that you should install Ubuntu and the mythtv packages === Tari_ [n=Tari@mke-66-97-119-213.milwpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === tgm4883_laptop [n=tgm4883@68.178.19.214] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === seabag [n=seabag@70-101-97-67.dsl1-field.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has left #ubuntu-mythtv ["Leaving"] === seabag [n=seabag@70-101-97-67.dsl1-field.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === DaveMorris [n=dave@host-212-158-244-26.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [09:10] i've got a really interesting question if anyone's around [09:11] shoot [09:14] I'm guessing its about suspending your PC and tuner cards not working again [09:14] ok, so i've got an asus motherboard with an integrated sis video card, and a wintv-pvr150mce [09:14] :D yes and no [09:15] superm1 showed me how to insert the "ivtv ivtv2" modules in the acpi-support [09:16] i thought that didn't work, because after that, the tuner would wake up and just display a blue screen. however, it does still record shows properly. you just have to restart in order to watch them. so my next guess is this- is it a video card issue? [09:16] poss === nnnnnnnn [n=nate@74.197.31.27] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [09:18] hi all [09:18] after restarting the x server all is well with the card [09:19] out of interest whats wrong with doing a shutdown instead of a suspend [09:19] hi nn [09:19] well, mythtv should be able to suspend itself to save power, then wake up when it needs to record something [09:20] I might not understand suspend correctly, but dosen't it turn it's self off then [09:20] it does, but suspend stays awake enough for mythtv to wake it up when it needs it... at least in theory [09:21] cool (learns stuff everyday) [09:22] I'm guessing you have a combined fe/be install which is whats causing the problem [09:24] hi nnnnnnnn [09:24] I was under the impression that mythtv set the wakeup function in the bios, and thought that it wasn't necessary for a suspend [09:41] anyone knowledgeable about mythbuntu-alpha3 ? [09:41] if so, a question -- booting from the installer cd fails to start xorg correctly; [09:42] I can reconfigure it, but how do I resume the installation process? [09:42] DaveMorris, sorry i had to do some work there. anyway, what's a fe/be install? [09:43] nnnnnnnn, you'll have to find the program that resumes the install process... i'm not sure what that is off the top of my head [09:43] yeah, that's what I need to find all right [09:44] no guesses though? [09:44] read the console output when it starts up properly on another pc to find out [09:44] seabag, I think fe/be means front-end/back-end [09:44] well, it doesn't start up properly on another pc === Nixus_Maximus [n=Simon@pD9EA4EC5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [09:45] ah yes it is both my fe and be. i tried another video card this morning but it was too old. i may just run out to a random store and get a better pci video card today [09:49] I'm just wondering if it'll play back fine if you ran the frontend software on another PC [09:49] in which case you've narrorowed down the problem to been the video card on the front end [09:51] well i know it's a video card problem on the frontend. :) because after waking up from suspend, it'll show the blue screen instead of the live tv signal. so, i set it to manually record a channel for 5 minutes. it recorded fine, but playback was blue screen (although strangely enough the little mini preview window was fine). i restarted, and it played back fine. so recording is perfect :D [09:54] yeah, but it could be mythtv frontend which is causing the problem [09:54] you tried restarting mythtv frontend [09:55] yes. also mplayer does it, without mythtvfrontend [09:55] i even tried it in my brother's computer w/o mythtv even installed. same thing [09:55] def sounds like the video card then [09:58] ok cool. thanks man, sometimes it just takes bouncingn stuff off of someone [09:58] new video card sure beats new computer :D [09:59] *get a [10:00] I'm cheap though and wouldn't use suspended :) [10:00] i'm pretty cheap too, but i gotta get it working right, if i want to buidl one of these for relatives or something [10:02] ok have a good one guys.. === Nixus_Maximus [n=Simon@pD9EA4EC5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Tari__ [n=Tari@CPE-72-133-204-1.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [11:00] mythbuntu.org appears to be down === DaveMorris off to the pub === Nixus_Maximus [n=Simon@pD9EA4EC5.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === Hugolp [n=jo@217.168.3.246] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === hugol1 [n=jo@217.168.3.246] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === hugol1 [n=jo@217.168.3.246] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === hugolp [n=jo@217.168.3.246] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === kalidma [n=alexvd@pool-71-187-19-119.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [11:26] Hi can anyone help with movie covers and nfs [11:27] I have my nfs mounts setup properly but i cannot see the metadata and movie posters on the slave [11:28] um [11:28] hum [11:28] i believe the path to your video directory must be *the same*... [11:28] yeah. [11:32] yes [11:32] laga is right [11:32] he's gone [11:32] but he's in #mythtv-users now [11:33] impatient guy [11:34] yes. === alpaca [n=Greg@75.110.203.45] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [11:45] hey all [11:45] is it possible to play internet radio through mythtv? [11:45] a shoutcast stream? [11:45] or anything of that nature === kalidma [n=alexvd@pool-71-187-19-119.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [11:47] laga I am back can you help out still? [11:47] probably [11:47] hehehe [11:47] Thankyou [11:47] alpaca: there is mythstream and some shoutcast patches by a guy called eskil [11:47] I have a masterbackend and slavebackend/frontend [11:48] have NFS setup to export video directory [11:48] On the backend I have the videos in the /myth/video directory that gets exported to /mnt/mythtvmasterbackend/video === Tari [n=Tari@CPE-72-133-204-1.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [11:49] I have the covers in the hidden directory in the /myth/videos/.covers [11:50] I have the path in media settings=> general settings => directory to store posters as /mnt/mythtvmasterbackend/video/.covers [11:51] I can watch movies fine from slavefrontend but I cant get the metadata and posters [11:53] hm [11:53] do I need to create a seperate symbolic link for the .covers directory [11:53] didn't you see my message where i told you that you need to have the videos in the same directory everywhere? [11:53] yes [11:54] well... [11:54] well on the backend i really dont watch anything [11:55] I can see the posters fine on the backend and it points to /myth/video/.covers [11:55] you need to have the videos in the same directory everywhere? [11:55] s/?/ [11:55] i'm telling you the third time now :) [11:55] Ok Ok [11:56] i am just confused (obviously) because the videos work fine from the frontend following the symbolic link [11:57] if the path to the video is different, it is recognized as a different video [11:57] thus no cover art [11:57] So on the backend I have movies in /myth/video on the slave frontend I have the movies pointing to /mnt/mythtvmasterbackend/video [11:58] so therefore that is a different path [11:58] yup [11:58] I have to have the backend as /mnt/mythtvmasterbackend/video [11:58] and the covers on the backend as /mnt/mythtvmasterbackend/video/.covers [11:59] OK [11:59] thankyou going to try that right now [12:01] sorry if i sound a bit moody, but i'm fighting mythbrowser ;) [12:04] oh mythbrowser [12:04] what a sassy dame [12:04] heh [12:05] trying to make youtube work [12:05] ahh [12:05] this shoutcast plugin seems nice === Nixus_Maximus [n=Simon@pD9EA69C1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv