[12:15] <dyingofrobbery> ality
[12:16] <jhutchins> `Xera`: Why not install the ATI binaries?
[12:17] <lockd> Lots of windows games actually use OpenGL, those generally work really well
[12:17] <jhutchins> dyingofrobbery: Yes, wine is the program that allows you to run windows programs.
[12:17] <`Xera`> jhutchins, because I don't have internet access in Kubuntu :|
[12:17] <jhutchins> `Xera`: Why not?
[12:18] <`Xera`> Because I'm using a SpeedTouch 330 USB modem
[12:18] <`Xera`> which Feisty doesn't get on well with
[12:18] <`Xera`> it worked in Dapper
[12:19] <`Xera`> and worked with 'neogui' in Feisty but I reinstalled Kubuntu and now can't locate it
[12:19] <`Xera`> :/
[12:19] <jhutchins> !find neogui
[12:19] <ubotu> Package/file neogui does not exist in feisty
[12:19] <`Xera`> it was some seperate thing
[12:19] <`Xera`> not a package
[12:20] <`Xera`> I tried https://launchpad.net/usb-adsl-modem-manager also
[12:20] <`Xera`> but it hangs at synchronized
[12:20] <lockd> `Xera`: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyUsbAdsl
[12:21] <`Xera`> I saw
[12:21] <`Xera`> doesn't really help
[12:21] <`Xera`> I have no idea what they're talking about
[12:21] <`Xera`> I have the firmware
[12:21] <lockd> `Xera`: neogui is there.. as well as ubuneo
[12:22] <hipparcos> hi
[12:22] <`Xera`> oh
[12:22] <`Xera`> thanks
[12:22] <lockd> `Xera`: heh, foreign site, but at least there's debs
[12:23] <jhutchins> `Xera`: Looks like the gist of the page is that they're working to incorporate USB modems in the main configuration, they know it's a mess and they're working on it.
[12:23] <jhutchins> `Xera`: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SpeedTouch
[12:24] <jhutchins> `Xera`: Check out the "existing pages" links.
[12:24] <`Xera`> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UKSpeedtouchDSLHowTo
[12:24] <`Xera`> basically that's what I've done
[12:25] <`Xera`> and it says "Time out getting so and so packets"
[12:25] <`Xera`> I'll find the part in the syslog
[12:25] <`Xera`> hang on
[12:25] <jhutchins> `Xera`: This looks pretty thorough: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/SpeedTouch
[12:25] <`Xera`> that is EXACTLY what I've tried :P
[12:26] <dyingofrobbery> after ive downloaded wine
[12:26] <dyingofrobbery> what do i do?
[12:26] <jhutchins> dyingofrobbery: Delete it.
[12:26] <`Xera`> sudo apt-get install wine
[12:26] <`Xera`> winecfg
[12:26] <`Xera`> :|
[12:26] <jhutchins> dyingofrobbery: Install it from the repositories.
[12:26] <dyingofrobbery> how do i run it?
[12:27] <Associat0r> why is koffice not default?
[12:27] <jhutchins> dyingofrobbery: You do not want to "run" the files you downloaded.
[12:27] <jhutchins> dyingofrobbery: You need to install it through the apt system, then run winecfg (from a console or alt-f2).
[12:27] <`Xera`> dyingofrobbery, wine iamanexe.exe
[12:27] <dyingofrobbery> do ui just now go get my windows app and run it?
[12:28] <jhutchins> Maybe when he said he downloaded it, he meant that he installed it.
[12:28] <jhutchins> dyingofrobbery: It should create associations for exe files, but it's best to test it by doing wine <path to exe>
[12:29] <`Xera`> ah this is the error
[12:29] <`Xera`> Time out waiting for PADO packets
[12:29] <jhutchins> Associat0r: Because although it's bloated, openoffice has more of the features people expect.
[12:29] <Associat0r> like?
[12:30] <jhutchins> `Xera`: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/SpeedTouch
[12:30] <geo88> jhutchins : do you think KOffice 2 will be up to the task ?
[12:30] <jhutchins> Gah!  Bad pastebuffer!
[12:30] <`Xera`> lol
[12:30] <jhutchins> http://rsc.anu.edu.au/General/linux_ppp/ANU-PPP-HOWTO-4.html
[12:30] <geo88> as in, to replace ooo ?
[12:30] <jhutchins> `Xera`: Also check the ppp howto on tldp.org
[12:30] <jhutchins> geo88: I think it has some shortcomings, particularly in the spreadsheet.
[12:31] <jhutchins> geo88: It will continue to be an option, but for now oo has the limelight.
[12:31] <jhutchins> Time to feed horses, later all.
[12:31] <noaXess_second> i'm now on another machine, with a nvidia geforce fs 5900 ultra, with dualhead, one vga and one dvi..
[12:31] <geo88> see ya :)
[12:32] <noaXess_second> lspci | grep VGA will return only one card.. is this normal?
[12:32] <noaXess_second> how do i kinow, which driver is installed for my nvidia?
[12:33] <`Xera`> The document or page you requested could not be found. Here are some pages on the Linux Documentation Project site that may help you:
[12:33] <`Xera`> :|
[12:33] <`Xera`> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/PPP-HOWTO.html
[12:34] <Associat0r> btw I am running kubuntu in vmware and the windows update speed seems very slow is that the same when you run it nativly
[12:34] <Associat0r> I mean when you resize a window you can really see it built up
[12:35] <lockd> no, it will always be slower under VMware/etc
[12:35] <runlevelten> Associat0r: things will be hugely impacted by running in a vm.
[12:36] <lockd> Associat0r: but if it's still a bit slow, you can use Equinox DE or another 'light' desktop
[12:36] <noaXess_second> !nvidia
[12:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:37] <Associat0r> is X the culprit?
[12:37] <spartan01> when using telnet, is : used to flag port numbers?
[12:37] <Associat0r> lockd
[12:37] <`Xera`> I'm gonna go try neogui
[12:37] <`Xera`> and prey that it works
[12:37] <Associat0r> I mean in general for why it is slow
[12:37] <`Xera`> back soon
[12:37] <dyingofrobbery> is it hard to use a windows installer in wine?
[12:38] <lockd> Associat0r: try running a 'twm' instead of kde, and see for yourself
[12:38] <lockd> Associat0r: but emulator does slow things down, it's probably the biggest culprit
[12:38] <spartan01> when using telnet, is : used to flag port numbers?
[12:38] <Associat0r> ok
[12:39] <lockd> dyingofrobbery: it can be, but usually actually running the program can cause problems
[12:39] <Associat0r> or is it because of the UI running in user space?
[12:40] <lockd> Associat0r: the entire emulator runs in user space - UI always does, regardless
[12:40] <blekos> hi, i try to install synce in ubuntu but i get the error desktop integration requested but D-Bus could not be found
[12:40] <runlevelten> dyingofrobbery: not generally. It can be sometimes.
[12:40] <Associat0r> yes I know
[12:40] <blekos> what is D-Bus?
[12:41] <ubuntu> I'm having a problem, I installed Kubuntu, then to uninstall it, I deleted the partitions, yet then a grub> menu came up that wouldn't let =me access my Windows partitions, yet I went to Ubuntu irc and told me to use root (hd0,0) enter chainloader +1 enter boot enter to load to windows, which worked, yet now when I boot up my pc I only see "Grub _" (With the underscore blinking), and I can't enter in commands. Does anyone know how to
[12:41] <ubuntu> uninstall Grub?
[12:41] <runlevelten> blekos: DBus is a means by which processes and apps can communicate withe each other
[12:41] <runlevelten> *with
[12:42] <Associat0r> but I mean windows in vmware updates very fast
[12:42] <blekos> and how can i enable it?
[12:44] <ubuntu> anyone knoe how to disable Grub to boot?
[12:44] <hsatera> how do i remove kubuntu and leave only gnome installed?
[12:44] <i> hi
[12:44] <ubuntu> hsatera: install ubuntu? lol
[12:44] <runlevelten> part
[12:45] <lockd> hsatera: you have ubuntu-desktop installed?
[12:45] <hsatera> ubuntu yes
[12:45] <hsatera> kubuntu also
[12:45] <hsatera> i want to remove all kde applications
[12:45] <hsatera> at once
[12:46] <ubuntu> Does anyone have experience with Grub?
[12:46] <hsatera> lockd, is there a way?
[12:46] <lockd> hsatera: yes, lemme see
[12:47] <lockd> hsatera: sudo apt-get autoremove application
[12:47] <ubuntu> Does anyone have experience with Grub?
[12:47] <lockd> hsatera: where application, in this case, is kubuntu-desktop
[12:47] <hsatera> ok
[12:47] <slougi> ubuntu: just ask the question
[12:47] <hsatera> :D
[12:48] <ubuntu> kk, well, I want to disable it from boot
[12:48] <ubuntu> ing
[12:48] <hsatera> try /boot/grub
[12:49] <slougi> ubuntu: what do you mean exactly?
[12:49] <hsatera> u can try google, as always
[12:49] <hsatera> http://www.google.com.br/search?q=how+to+disable+grub+boot&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[12:49] <ubuntu> It used to give me a menu (press tab to see mjore commands and such), but know when I boot, I just see "Grub _", that's it, and it won't accept commands
[12:50] <slougi> ubuntu: but it still works?
[12:52] <CensorBard> Anyone having trouble with package nvidia-glx?
[12:58] <ubuntu> I think I got disconnected, anyone know how to disable grub?
[12:58] <sfire> disable grub?
[12:58] <slougi> ubuntu: once again, what exactly do you want to achieve?
[12:58] <x_link> Hi.
[12:58] <x_link> When I run sudo aptitude update it always get stuck with the repo:
[12:58] <x_link> deb http://seveas.imbrandon.com/ feisty-seveas all
[12:58] <ubuntu> well, it's booting before ubuntu or windows, and it won't let me go past it
[12:59] <x_link> Why is that?
[12:59] <slougi> ubuntu: basically, it gets stuck?
[12:59] <slougi> ubuntu: you cannot just uninstall/disable grub, as it's a bootloader. you will need to install some other bootloader on top of it.
[12:59] <x_link> Could somebody please help?
[12:59] <dyingofrobbery> if you try and install a number of linux distros. one will eventually work i think
[12:59] <lockd> is aptitude better than apt-get if i'm just going to use it for command line?
[01:00] <dyingofrobbery> if you try and install a number of linux distros. one will eventually work i think
[01:00] <Sanne> x_link: seems to be down, I can't reach http://seveas.imbrandon.com/ in a browser.
[01:00] <ubuntu> I wish to access my Windows OS's, yet, when I boot up my pc, (I belive because I deleted kubuntu in windows)
[01:00] <dyingofrobbery> my computers freeze when i try and install some distros of linux, and eventually one of them works
[01:00] <ubuntu> I would see the Grub menu, but now, all I see is "Grub _" and I can't enter commands
[01:00] <x_link> Sanne: Ahh ok.
[01:01] <x_link> Sanne: Cause I had to add that repo to be able to download a program.
[01:01] <x_link> I have that program now, so can I remove it or what?
[01:01] <slougi> ubuntu: i am not too familiar with windows, but as far as i know running fdisk /mbr will reinstall the windows bootloader. i am not sure how to get a windows "shell" though if you are unable to boot it, maybe from the install disk.
[01:01] <`Xera`> YES
[01:01] <`Xera`> neogui worked
[01:01] <ubuntu> before I would enter root (hd0,0) | chainloader +1 | boot
[01:01] <x_link> Is it possible to install/run .deb files in Kubuntu?
[01:01] <Sanne> x_link: which program? Maybe medibuntu has it? http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[01:02] <x_link> mplayer or vlc.
[01:02] <lockd> x_link: yes, that's the preferred package type
[01:02] <x_link> I don't remember which program it was.
[01:02] <Sanne> x_link: both should be in the official repositories
[01:02] <x_link> lockd: Okej, cause I just installed LimeWire but it doesn't load.
[01:02] <slougi> difficult to help that guy as he keeps dropping :/
[01:02] <x_link> Sanne: Then it was something else.
[01:02] <x_link> lockd: Do you know anything about that?
[01:03] <lockd> x_link: you have sun java installed?
[01:03] <x_link> sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre
[01:03] <x_link> sudo aptitude install sun-java5-plugin
[01:03] <lockd> x_link: fairly sure it doesn't like GNU Classpath/gcj
[01:03] <slougi> ubuntu: grub is probably trying to load its config file from a partition that no longer exists. (you said you removed kubuntu). did you get my previous message?
[01:03] <x_link> It worked when I used Debian a week ago.
[01:03] <Sanne> x_link: bookmark this medibuntu link anyway, they got nice stuff, maybe someday you want something from there.
[01:03] <ubuntu> no
[01:03] <slougi> ubuntu: i am not too familiar with windows, but as far as i know running fdisk /mbr will reinstall the windows bootloader. i am not sure how to get a windows "shell" though if you are unable to boot it, maybe from the install disk.
[01:03] <x_link> Sanne: I will add it to my sources.list now.
[01:04] <x_link> Sanne: Which repo was it btw?
[01:04] <x_link> deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[01:04] <x_link> Right?
[01:04] <Sanne> x_link: look here for instructions how to add: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php
[01:04] <Sanne> yup :)
[01:04] <x_link> Sanne: Shouldn't I just add it and save it?
[01:04] <ubuntu> another problem: I think my cd drive is malfunctioning,
[01:04] <ubuntu> (it just stoped booting from the cd
[01:05] <Sanne> x_link: no, that link is the website. The repository has a different url, it's in the instructions what to add.
[01:05] <ubuntu> ) The grub menu appeared AFTER I deleted my Kubuntu partitions
[01:05] <Associat0r> how can I play midi files?
[01:05] <slougi> ubuntu: do you mean the grub shell? where you can write commands?
[01:06] <x_link> Sanne: deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ feisty free non-free
[01:06] <x_link> =)
[01:06] <ubuntu> yes
[01:06] <slougi> ubuntu: right, that sounds about right. then it just broke?
[01:06] <Sanne> x_link: seems so :)
[01:07] <x_link> Sanne: sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update
[01:07] <ubuntu> it appears to look like command prompt, | yet again, all that NOW loads, is "Grub _", and I can't enter commands
[01:07] <x_link> That doesn't work.
[01:08] <slougi> ubuntu: yes but _something_ must have broken it if it was working before. in any case, either reinstall kubuntu to get a proper bootloader setup again, or find some way to run the windows fdisk
[01:08] <slougi> ubuntu: or reinstall windows
[01:08] <x_link> Sanne: I just  put that repo in my sources.list. But I need a key now. I tried the key on the link but it doesn't work.
[01:09] <Sanne> x_link: with wget starts a new line, I would think.
[01:09] <Sanne> x_link: try just the wget line
[01:09] <x_link> Nix
[01:09] <x_link> Didn't work.
[01:10] <Sanne> x_link: what's the error? pastebin please if several lines.
[01:10] <ubuntu> I'm sorda stuck though, my cd drive is broken, so I can't reinstall windows, or run fixmbr
[01:10] <slougi> ubuntu: right, that complicates matters :) what system are you using at the moment? same computer?
[01:11] <ubuntu> when I did get the grub menu, I entered root (hd0,0) | chainloader +1 | boot
[01:11] <ubuntu> no, I'm running Kubunto of a live cd off a different computer
[01:11] <x_link> Sanne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32427/
[01:13] <slougi> ubuntu: right, not sure what to tell you. basically as far as i can tell/guess your boot loader is hosed so you can't get a system up fmon your harddrive, and your cd drive being broken means you cannot fix it from a live cd. if you want to get adventurous you could try some of the linux rescue floppies
[01:13] <Sanne> x_link: what happens if you run spt-get update before trying that line?
[01:13] <slougi> from*
[01:13] <Sanne> sorry, apt-get
[01:13] <ubuntu> dun dun dun
[01:13] <ubuntu> where would I get those?
[01:14] <x_link> Sanne: What?
[01:14] <slougi> ubuntu: i haven't used one of those in ages, hold on a sec
[01:14] <x_link> Sanne: Before adding the repo you mean?
[01:14] <sylar> wenas alguien habla espaol????
[01:14] <Sanne> x_link: no, after adding the repo, before trying the wget line? As line 4 suggests? Would that help?
[01:15] <lockd> best way would be to get another cd drive
[01:15] <x_link> hrmm
[01:15] <x_link> Sanne: I will remove the repo now.
[01:15] <x_link> To try
[01:15] <ubuntu> Oh crap- no floppy drive, BUT, I do have a fdlash drive, wait couldn't I just create a bootable Kubuntu?
[01:15] <ubuntu> I have the cds
[01:15] <lockd> ubuntu: IF your bios supports it
[01:16] <slougi> ubuntu: i don't have any experience with boots off of flash drives
[01:16] <x_link> Sanne: I don't see anything on line 4?
[01:16] <ubuntu> :-/, I'm not sure, but It's a pretty new board
[01:16] <Sanne> x_link: I mean here, line 4 suggests apt-get update: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32427/
[01:17] <ubuntu> wouldn't I just copy the files from the iso to the flash drive?
[01:17] <slougi> ubuntu: afaik there is some special magic needed to make it actually bootable
[01:17] <slougi> ubuntu: you could try this for example: http://flashlinux.org.uk/
[01:18] <lockd> setting the bios to boot from usb drives is required
[01:18] <x_link> Sanne: Why should I run apt-get update when I don't have that repo there?
[01:18] <x_link> No need.
[01:18] <x_link> I just did that, it went like it's supposed to.
[01:18] <x_link> Sanne: I removed that repo --> sudo aptitude update.
[01:18] <x_link> Nothing special.
[01:18] <x_link> Sanne: sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre
[01:19] <x_link> sudo aptitude install sun-java5-plugin
[01:19] <x_link> Isn't that what I need to run java programs?
[01:19] <Sanne> x_link: I didn't tell you to remove the repo ;). I meant: add the repo, update, do the wget line for the key (not sure if that helps).
[01:19] <x_link> Sanne: I already did that, didn't work like I said.
[01:19] <x_link> hehe =)
[01:20] <x_link> Sanne: Forget about that repo, not that important right now.
[01:20] <Sanne> x_link: I'm a bit lost then... heh. Well, if you don't need that repo right now, try again later maybe?
[01:20] <Sanne> right :)
[01:20] <x_link> Sure, I will try again.
[01:20] <x_link> I need to fix this java thing first =/
[01:20] <x_link> sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre
[01:20] <x_link> sudo aptitude install sun-java5-plugin
[01:20] <x_link> That is all I need right?
[01:20] <Sanne> I check
[01:21] <lockd> I just ran kubuntu gutsy in vmware.. right now, kdesu is failing and saying "incorrect password".. works with regular old sudo
[01:21] <x_link> Cause I installed LimeWire, when I click on it then it starts to load. But after a short while it just stops and dissapears.
[01:22] <x_link> Does anybody here use LimeWire?
[01:22] <Soulwarp> hokay i have a question
[01:22] <ubuntu> it's probibly in the task-bar
[01:22] <Soulwarp> how can i control my volume?
[01:22] <lockd> "su returned with an error".. is there a way to configure kdesu to use sudo instead of try to su?
[01:22] <Soulwarp> i looked all over
[01:23] <Sanne> x_link: ah, the bot knows...
[01:23] <lockd> or is it futile, and should I replace kdesu with plain old sudo?
[01:23] <Sanne> !java | x_link
[01:23] <ubotu> x_link: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[01:23] <x_link> hrmm
[01:24] <ubuntu> or limewire is running, yet not showing?, I've had that proiblem with windows, open up the task-manager equilevent to Linux, and end limewire
[01:24] <Soulwarp> !sound
[01:24] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:24] <Soulwarp> aha ty bot
[01:25] <Sanne> x_link: installing sun-java5-plugin should pull all the others automatically, including the jre
[01:26] <Soulwarp> !volume
[01:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about volume - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:26] <x_link> Sanne: I already installed sun-java5-jre
[01:26] <noaXess> !wireless
[01:26] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:26] <x_link> I will try with java6 now
[01:26] <x_link> Doesn't work.
[01:29] <ubuntu> I'm going to install another CD drive, I can't find my flash drive, wish m,e luck...
[01:29] <slougi> luck
[01:31] <Soulwarp> can anyone tell me how i can adjust my volume?
[01:32] <lockd> PLEASE.. could someone add the super-user-command to the KDE configurations?
[01:32] <lockd> it seems to still think the proper command is su!
[01:35] <x_link> So nobody is using LimeWire here?
[01:35] <lockd> if this remains ignored, I WILL refrain from using kubuntu
[01:36] <Soulwarp> have you tryed sudo?
[01:36] <jcs7778> Hello! does any one have any ideas on how to mount a second ext3 partitiion so that normal users can write to it?
[01:37] <Sanne> jcs7778: IIRC, I just changed the permissions of the mount point for mine.
[01:37] <`Xera`> What's the command to reconfigure X?
[01:37] <`Xera`> dpkg -re-configure xorg or something
[01:38] <lockd> hmm, sudo itself does not work!
[01:38] <lockd> i wondered, when it couldn't handle a program as simple as -cat- or su -i
[01:38] <Sanne> `Xera`: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (if it's still the same, I'm on dapper)
[01:38] <lockd> err, sudo -i
[01:38] <`Xera`> thanks
[01:40] <Soulwarp> lockd what are you trying to do that requires admin rights?
[01:41] <lockd> Soulwarp: umm, change /etc/kde3/kdesurc
[01:41] <lockd> Soulwarp: and edit sudoers without which I can't do anything - chicken and egg problem
[01:42] <elliott> does anyone know how to install visualisation on amarok?
[01:42] <lockd> Soulwarp: probably can be solved by old fashioned reboot and chroot, right?
[01:43] <lockd> Soulwarp: you still there?
[01:44] <Soulwarp> lockd ubuntu/kubuntu i found is different from slackware and redhat distros and usually doesn't need to change sessions to do root actions
[01:44] <Soulwarp> i'm not sure what you want to change in the folder
[01:44] <Webwolf> Hey. Got a question for you guys. I installed the latest closed-source nVidia drivers. Upon trying to restart the X server, it's telling me that the kernel interface that the installer allegedly compiled for me did not exist. Is there any way I can recover from this? (I'm on LiveCD right now.)
[01:45] <lockd> Soulwarp: yes but changing password does generally need to chroot in
[01:45] <lockd> Soulwarp: and it is equivalent to slackware, and root password is the only thing I'll trust with chroot's ignoring 'visudo' and 'sudo visudo', etc
[01:45] <lockd> err, sudo's ignoring
[01:45] <lockd> not chroot
[01:46] <Soulwarp> lockd i'm still new to kubuntu and havn't needed to do that yet
[01:47] <Soulwarp> :S
[01:47] <lockd> Soulwarp: caused by a bad install, not worth reinstalling though IMO
[01:47] <Ellipsys> Wooot! Defcon in las vegas!
[01:47] <Ellipsys> Hey guys.
[01:48] <Soulwarp> lockd so you are hafving a problem with your password?
[01:48] <Soulwarp> lockd the root pw is the one you gave when you installed it
[01:49] <Ellipsys> I'm guessing AmeroK doesn't support iPhone yet, hm?
[01:49] <uniqum> YO! :)
[01:49] <elliott> guys does anyone know how to install visualisations onto amarok? i am newby to the Kubuntu OS and would really like to do this
[01:49] <lockd> Soulwarp: i gave it the password i am trying
[01:49] <lockd> Soulwarp: i'm going to kill this little problem if it takes a slackware disk.. i seem to be unable to mount my hard disk externally with livecd
[01:50] <lockd> errm, not live cd, alternate cd (using rescue mode)
[01:50] <uniqum> help :) says hack chanel :) or coding, programing :) sorry IM RUSS
[01:51] <Soulwarp> any admins on that can help lockd?
[01:51] <Soulwarp> i'm not sure what to do
[01:52] <uniqum> LOL ok
[01:52] <`Xera`> Ok this is weird
[01:52] <`Xera`> I've installed fglrx
[01:52] <`Xera`> but
[01:52] <`Xera`> when I set x to use fglrx it says no devices found
[01:52] <lockd> Soulwarp: i'm not sure either, used to know how to do this - ubuntu seems purposefully obfuscated (insane # of devnodes, for instance)
[01:52] <uniqum> im go russ srever :) bye GGGGGGG
[01:55] <`Xera`> Anybody know why X says there's no "Device" section for PCI:3:2:0 when I set the driver to fglrx?
[01:55] <Soulwarp> !fglrx
[01:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:55] <`Xera`> I know how to install it
[01:56] <Associat0r> what was the default shortcut again to get that taskman thing?
[01:56] <`Xera`> That's not the problem
[01:56] <`Xera`> X is the problem
[01:56] <Soulwarp> have you checked your xorg file?
[01:56] <`Xera`> yes
[01:56] <lockd> Soulwarp: got it.. added a password then sudo worked instantly - weird
[01:56] <`Xera`> I set the driver to fglrx and it reports no device section for PCI:3:2:1 "No devices found"
[01:56] <Soulwarp> lockd good to hear m8 ;)
[01:57] <`Xera`> I dunno why it's saying 3:2:1
[01:57] <`Xera`> It's set to 3:2:0
[01:57] <Soulwarp> that's odd
[01:57] <pauljw> Associat0r: ctrl-esc ?
[01:57] <ubuntu> anyone know how to view NTFS partitions in the Kubuntu live cd?
[01:58] <Associat0r> thanks I alreadt got it
[01:58] <`Xera`> sudo mount /dev/partition /mountpoint -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0000
[01:58] <`Xera`> :)
[01:58] <Soulwarp> `Xera` how did you install the driver
[01:58] <`Xera`> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[01:58] <ubuntu> mount: mount point /mountpoint does not exist
[01:59] <`Xera`> sudo mkdir /where/you/want/to/mount/it
[01:59] <Soulwarp> `Xera` :S this is why i use nvidia lol
[02:00] <ubuntu> I have 2 NTFS "drives" , yet I don't know there plave (sda1)
[02:00] <Soulwarp> `Xera`> i could never get my ati card to work right
[02:00] <`Xera`> well
[02:00] <`Xera`> it worked before
[02:00] <ubuntu> same here, I have a X1650 I gave up on it...
[02:00] <`Xera`> :|
[02:00] <lockd> kdesu is still the most annoying piece of software ever
[02:01] <Ellipsys> I have craptastic ATI on this laptop >>;
[02:01] <tank71> is there a command to see how much bandwidth is currently being used by the server?
[02:01] <Ellipsys> There's a big long bloody process to get fglrx working for 3d I think
[02:01] <ubuntu> Is the 8800 GTX series running on Linux yet?
[02:01] <tatters> Strange things happening, my power failed and PC shutdown when I switched back on in the login screen when I press a key it prints out 7 characters making it impossible to login,however holding the backspace key I can type my login details and it does not add the extra characters, when logged in I have to go to keyboard section and uncheck repeat key else it just keeps printing 7 characters,when I log off the repeat key function re-enables.does that a
[02:01] <Ellipsys> Let me see if I can dig it up
[02:01] <`Xera`> it used to work no problems
[02:01] <`Xera`> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[02:01] <`Xera`> edit xorg.conf
[02:01] <`Xera`> to use fglrx
[02:01] <`Xera`> reboot
[02:02] <`Xera`> no probs
[02:02] <tatters> if i press n I get nnnnnnnnnnnnn
[02:02] <Ellipsys> Hmm...
[02:03] <ubuntu> isn't there a NTFS mounting utility?
[02:03] <ubuntu> I've seen it in Ubuntu
[02:03] <`Xera`> yes
[02:03] <`Xera`> sudo mount
[02:03] <`Xera`> :p
[02:04] <`Xera`> sudo mount /dev/sda2 /windows -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0000
[02:04] <`Xera`> is what I use
[02:04] <`Xera`> to mount mine
[02:04] <ubuntu> oh, windows is what u name it?
try using the autoconfig for the driver
[02:04] <Soulwarp> sudo aticonfig --initial
[02:04] <Soulwarp> sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv
[02:04] <tatters> without proper drivers writing to ntfs is dodgy
[02:04] <tatters> ntfs-ng I think its called
[02:04] <`Xera`> tatters: He said mount
[02:04] <`Xera`> not write
[02:04] <Ellipsys> bah, have to plug this thing in. BRB
[02:04] <`Xera`> you can mount ntfs fine
[02:05] <`Xera`> but writing is dodhy
[02:05] <`Xera`> dodgy*
[02:05] <`Xera`> ok Soulwarp
[02:05] <ubuntu> I open add/remove programs, and searched for that, but couldn't find it, even after running sudo apt-get update
[02:06] <ubuntu> Mount point windows does not exist..., do I need to use the name of the partition?
[02:06] <ubuntu> sudo mount /dev/sda2 /Local Disk C: -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0000?
[02:07] <jhutchins> ubuntu: First, whatever mount point you choose must already exist as a folder/directory.
[02:07] <`Xera`> nop
[02:07] <`Xera`> same error
[02:07] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Second, if it has spaces in the name, you will need to "escape" them with "\", or put quotes around the pathname.
[02:08] <`Xera`> No device section for PCI:3:2:1
[02:08] <`Xera`> No devices found
[02:08] <`Xera`> Why is it using :1?
[02:08] <Soulwarp> `Xera` :o
[02:08] <`Xera`> It's set to :0
[02:08] <`Xera`> god damn this >.>
[02:08] <Soulwarp> hahaha
[02:08] <jhutchins> `Xera`: Writing to NTFS is fixed.  See !ntfs-3g
[02:08] <`Xera`> I know
[02:08] <ubuntu> the name of the directory I'm mounting 2?
[02:08] <jhutchins> `Xera`: Please keep the language children friendly.
[02:09] <Soulwarp> only thing i can think of is uninstall and reinstall the driver and follow the directions to the t
[02:09] <`Xera`> Sorry what did I say that is offensive? :|
[02:09] <tatters> nothing unless ure a religious zealot
[02:09] <Soulwarp> !fglrx
[02:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:10] <Soulwarp> that link is smarter than me
[02:10] <Soulwarp> ;p
[02:10] <ubuntu> nvrmind, I got it to work!, thanks 'Xera'!
[02:11] <jhutchins> `Xera`: Wrathful invocation of the deity's name.
[02:11] <`Xera`> hurr
[02:12] <jhutchins> `Xera`: No biggie, just consider the possibility that there are (polite) children around.
[02:12] <jhutchins> `Xera`: Still struggling, eh?  Did you get the modem working?
[02:12] <`Xera`> Since when did children use IRC or let alone join this channel?
[02:12] <`Xera`> yup
[02:12] <Soulwarp> im a 25 y/o child at heart!
[02:12] <`Xera`> modem working
[02:12] <tatters> ha u ever listened to a childs conversation nowadays,,they turn the air blue
[02:12] <`Xera`> neogui <3
[02:12] <jhutchins> W00T!  See, you can do it!
[02:12] <hijjt> is it just me or do the new ati-drivers 8.39.4 not do widescreen
[02:13] <tatters> just u
[02:13] <`Xera`> ati drivers fail
[02:13] <`Xera`> period
[02:13] <jhutchins> These are theoretical polite children.  They serve as a reminder to be polite.
[02:13] <Soulwarp> you'd be surprised how many child gurus are out there
[02:13] <jhutchins> `Xera`: What's your exact chipset?
[02:13] <jhutchins> from lspci?
[02:13] <`Xera`> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82915G/P/GV/GL/PL/910GL Memory Controller Hub (rev 04)
[02:13] <`Xera`> that?
[02:13] <Soulwarp> `Xera`ati never could make good linux drivers
[02:14] <Soulwarp> `Xera` imo
[02:14] <jhutchins> `Xera`: No, the video chipset.
[02:14] <`Xera`> or 03:02.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO]  (rev 01)
[02:14] <hijjt> it gives me a sweet sweet black screen if i run at 1440x900, but works perfectly at the annoyingly ugly 1024x768
[02:14] <jhutchins> That's it.
[02:14] <tatters> children are a product of the original sin.not to be trusted
[02:14] <jhutchins> `Xera`: feisty, right?
[02:14] <`Xera`> yup
[02:14] <ubuntu> is there a way to delete something without sending it to the trash?
[02:14] <`Xera`> it doesn't come with drivers for the card.. I'm using vesa (ew) atm
[02:14] <`Xera`> ubuntu, shift + del
[02:15] <ubuntu> file /Windows2/wubi/disks/home.virtual.disk.
[02:15] <jhutchins> `Xera`: 32 or 64 bit system?
[02:15] <ubuntu> "could not delete"
[02:15] <jhutchins> `Xera`: Yeah, known problem, ATI will not release the source under a preferred license.
[02:15] <Soulwarp> ubuntu do you own it? ;p
[02:15] <ubuntu> I'm trying to clear up space to install kubuntu
[02:15] <`Xera`> 32bit
[02:16] <jhutchins> `Xera`: At least they do release drivers though.
[02:16] <jhutchins> k
[02:16] <ubuntu> what?
[02:16] <Soulwarp> ubuntu the file you are deleting.
[02:16] <tatters> God smites me with a problem ....... my power failed and PC shutdown when I switched back on in the login screen when I press a key it prints out 7 characters making it impossible to login,however holding the backspace key I can type my login details and it does not add the extra characters, when logged in I have to go to keyboard section and uncheck repeat key else it just keeps printing 7 characters,when I log off the repeat key function re-enables
[02:17] <jhutchins> `Xera`: Here we go: My ATI Radeon 9200SE video card works perfectly, but Linux doesn?t support the TV output..." so we know it's possible to get it working in Linux.
[02:17] <ubuntu> I wouldn't think so, it's on a windows partition, I'm in the live-cd Kubuntu
[02:17] <`Xera`> I don't care about TV out
[02:17] <`Xera`> it fails anyway
[02:17] <`Xera`> :P
[02:17] <Soulwarp> tatters are you sure it's not the keyboard?
[02:17] <`Xera`> TVs have HORRIBLE resolutions
[02:18] <ubuntu> 400X500 W00000000000))T
[02:18] <Soulwarp> tatters try a different one?
[02:18] <tatters> if I press ctrl/a;t f5 the text comes out fine
[02:18] <tatters> in a tty it is fine
[02:18] <`Xera`> jhutchins: fglrx worked fine before I reinstalled Kubuntu
[02:18] <`Xera`> :(
[02:19] <Soulwarp> `Xera` maybe you missed a step?
[02:19] <tatters> only login screen and when logged in, in terminal it works as it should
[02:19] <`Xera`> nop
[02:19] <ubuntu> Soulwarp how do I give myself rights do delete a file on a NTFS [artition?
[02:19] <`Xera`> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[02:19] <ubuntu__> hey everyone
[02:19] <`Xera`> edit xorg.conf
[02:19] <`Xera`> to use fglrx
[02:19] <`Xera`> ubuntu: you gotta enable ntfs writing to do that
[02:19] <jhutchins> Seems there may be a problem with Xorg 7.2 vs 7.1, but: "I use the 9200SE with 3d and I have NO problems.
[02:19] <jhutchins>  __________________
[02:19] <jhutchins>  My Baby: P3 866 mHz, 640 mb RAM, ATI Radeon 9200 SE, Hauppauge WinTV Go Plus, TrendNet TEW-424UB, Logitech X-540 Speakers. Couldn't run Windows XP. Runs Ubuntu 7.04 like a dream.
[02:19] <jhutchins>  Ubuntu Registered User #15339
[02:20] <adaran> i have a raid-5 array that's unclean, and my boot process hangs. can i assume that that is because it needs to be rebuilt first, or should it boot anyway and reconstruct in the background?
[02:20] <ubuntu> how do I do so oh almighty Linux god?
[02:20] <Soulwarp> ubuntu i have no experience for that myself. truthfully i don't think you can. NTSF from a partition is read only i think
[02:21] <shadowhywind> how i can find out what device my sound card is, if it is using /dev/dsp or /dev/asla or something like that
[02:21] <Soulwarp> ubuntu i could be wrong
[02:21] <ubuntu> X_X. with the ntfs configuration utility from the repositories, I can write
[02:21] <jhutchins> !ntfs-3g | ubuntu
[02:21] <ubotu> ubuntu: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[02:21] <tatters> hmm I second guess he want to write to ntfs,do I get a prize?
[02:22] <`Xera`> While I'm here I may aswell ask
[02:22] <ubuntu> I installed them in ubuntu, but I can't find them in Kubuntu,
[02:22] <Soulwarp> i learn someting new every day ^_^
[02:22] <ubuntu> yes
[02:22] <`Xera`> is there a way to turn off the ugly anti alias in firefox?
[02:22] <tatters> egh
[02:22] <Soulwarp> im a nub
[02:23] <jhutchins> `Xera`: What happens when you use the ati driver?
[02:23] <ubuntu> how do I enable the universe repository>?
[02:23] <tatters> we all nubs as u pt it
[02:23] <`Xera`> you mean the official one?
[02:23] <jhutchins> !fixfonts | xera
[02:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixfonts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:23] <Soulwarp> well that's why we are all here :P
[02:23] <jhutchins> bah.
[02:23] <noaXess_kubuntu> where to set a modul to run on boot?
[02:24] <`Xera`> meh
[02:24] <`Xera`> set font to arial
[02:24] <`Xera`> looks better
[02:24] <`Xera`> I'd prefer Tahoma but it's not on my list :(
[02:24] <jhutchins> `Xera`: There should be an "ati" driver, you should be able to run that instead of "vesa" or "fglrx"
[02:24] <`Xera`> ooh
[02:24] <`Xera`> yeah
[02:24] <`Xera`> ok
[02:24] <`Xera`> brb
[02:24] <jhutchins> !fonts | xera
[02:24] <ubotu> xera: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[02:24] <`Xera`> I know how to install fonts XD
[02:24] <tatters> comiwd
[02:24] <`Xera`> I installed Tahoma
[02:24] <`Xera`> for Steam
[02:24] <`Xera`> but it's not showing up in the firefox font list
[02:25] <`Xera`> anyway
[02:25] <`Xera`> brb
[02:25] <tatters> does having many fonts in linux slow it down as it does windows
[02:27] <Soulwarp> i never was into crazy fonts and havn't tested this theory
[02:27] <Soulwarp> my guess is no
[02:27] <tatters> fonts need caching me thinks that why iot slows system down ,,loaded at startup
[02:28] <jhutchins> Doesn't seem to as much.
[02:28] <jhutchins> There's also the question on running xfs vs. loading the fonts directly.
[02:29] <jhutchins> I've considered doing a central xfs on the fastest desktop and having the others use it so we all have the same fonts.
[02:29] <`Xera`> ok
[02:29] <`Xera`> that works
[02:29] <`Xera`> but
[02:29] <jhutchins> !
[02:29] <`Xera`> it runs a lot slower
[02:29] <`Xera`> a LOT
[02:29] <`Xera`> switching channels in Konversation sorta wipes in
[02:29] <`Xera`> :|
[02:30] <jhutchins> `Xera`: Ok, have a look at this: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_beryl_ati_radeon
[02:30] <Soulwarp> using mesa or fglx?
[02:30] <`Xera`> ati
[02:30] <`Xera`> :v
[02:30] <jhutchins> Soulwarp: native ati driver.
[02:30] <`Xera`> ok jhutchins
[02:30] <jhutchins> `Xera`: There are known problems with the non-mobile version of the 9200.  It's not clear whether it's fixed yet.
[02:31] <`Xera`> I'm using 9250
[02:31] <`Xera`> :|
[02:31] <`Xera`> same thing?
[02:33] <tatters> anyone here use TV-out only on desktop?
[02:33] <jhutchins> `Xera`: Think I've got it:
[02:34] <`Xera`> You do?
[02:34] <`Xera`> Tell me D:
[02:34] <jhutchins> `Xera`: It's an agp card, isn't it?
[02:34] <`Xera`> PCI
[02:34] <`Xera`> :|
[02:34] <jhutchins> Augh.  Try this anyway: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32432/
[02:35] <`Xera`> ok
[02:35] <jhutchins> Also try commenting out Option "UseFBDev" "true"
[02:36] <DaSkreech> Is there any Succesor to Korroa ?
[02:36] <tatters> never had a ATI card the tv-out on them I think I read  can be hacked to do vga to scart
[02:36] <`Xera`> wtf.. this is weird
[02:37] <`Xera`> jhutchins: I ran sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx; sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri from that tutorial you gave me
[02:37] <`Xera`> now I'm trying to remove the installed packages
[02:37] <`Xera`> The following extra packages will be installed:
[02:37] <`Xera`>   kcontrol kdebase-bin kdebase-kio-plugins kdesktop kdm kfind konqueror
[02:37] <`Xera`> O.o
[02:37] <`Xera`> The following packages will be REMOVED
[02:37] <`Xera`>   kubuntu-desktop libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx xorg
[02:37] <jhutchins> Those are all good.
[02:37] <`Xera`> lolololol
[02:37] <`Xera`> it wants to remove my xorg
[02:37] <`Xera`> D:
[02:38] <tatters> yours is not to wonder why your is to do or die
[02:38] <`Xera`> all I want to do is remove the two packages that I installed
[02:38] <jhutchins> `Xera`: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/114520
[02:38] <jhutchins> `Xera`: Also try disabling "load dri" from the modules section.
[02:38] <tatters> thats like saying "all I want to do is touch the sky"
[02:39] <`Xera`> wait wait you're confusing me
[02:39] <jhutchins> `Xera`: Also this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=446462&page=2
[02:39] <`Xera`> thst tutorial you posted
[02:39] <`Xera`> I ran
[02:39] <jhutchins> Sorry, I gotta leave you with that for now.
[02:39] <`Xera`> noo
[02:39] <`Xera`> 5 more minutes
[02:39] <`Xera`> I think I broke something
[02:39] <`Xera`> :|
[02:40] <`Xera`> I ran sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx; sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri
[02:40] <`Xera`> from that tut you gave me
[02:40] <`Xera`> and now when I try and remove the 2 packages
[02:40] <`Xera`> it wants to remove xorg
[02:40] <`Xera`> ;_;
[02:40] <jhutchins> It looks like it's going to reinstall xorg - that's not bad.
[02:40] <`Xera`> The following extra packages will be installed:
[02:40] <`Xera`>   kcontrol kdebase-bin kdebase-kio-plugins kdesktop kdm kfind konqueror
[02:40] <`Xera`>   libgl1-mesa-swx11 libglu1-mesa mesa-utils
[02:40] <`Xera`> The following packages will be REMOVED
[02:40] <`Xera`>   kubuntu-desktop libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx xorg
[02:40] <`Xera`> not reinstalling xorg :|
[02:40] <jhutchins> that is strange, isn't it.
[02:41] <tatters> Kubuntu-desktop is a meta package me thinks nothing to worry about
[02:41] <jhutchins> start using aptitude when you install stuff, btw, it tracks dependencies better.
[02:41] <jhutchins> try the steps one at a time.
[02:41] <`Xera`> which steps?
[02:41] <jhutchins> tatters: xorg is though.
[02:41] <`Xera`> you've given my like 5 links
[02:41] <jhutchins> the remove, then the install.
[02:42] <`Xera`> you're confusing me
[02:42] <`Xera`> :|
[02:42] <`Xera`> D:
[02:42] <jhutchins> Yeah, they're all references to read through fo rhtings to try.
[02:42] <`Xera`> ok
[02:42] <`Xera`> but
[02:42] <`Xera`> it wants to remove xorg
[02:42] <`Xera`> :(
[02:43] <tatters> aw cmon who needs xorg nowadays anyway
[02:43] <jhutchins> if you just remove the driver, it wants to remvoe xorg?
[02:43] <tatters> :/
[02:43] <`Xera`> I tried to remove libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx
[02:43] <`Xera`> which I installed
[02:43] <`Xera`> from that tutorial
[02:43] <`Xera`> but
[02:43] <jhutchins> tatters: Can you help him step through this a bit?  He has a radeon 9200 which is a problem in feisty.
[02:43] <`Xera`> if I do that
[02:43] <`Xera`> it wants to remove kubuntu-desktop libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx xorg
[02:43] <`Xera`> :|
[02:43] <jhutchins> try 'em one at a time.
[02:43] <tatters> sorry I am complete noob
[02:44] <`Xera`> both try and remove xorg
[02:44] <`Xera`> and kubuntu-desktop
[02:44] <`Xera`> meh
[02:44] <jhutchins> yeah, don't worry about the desktop thing, but xorg may be a problem.
[02:44] <jhutchins> what happens if you say yes/
[02:44] <jhutchins> ?
[02:44] <`Xera`> is it safe to just leave those two packages in?
[02:44] <`Xera`> if I say yes
[02:45] <`Xera`> I'm guessing
[02:45] <`Xera`> it removes xorg
[02:45] <`Xera`> :v
[02:45] <jhutchins> 'cause if it's really removing xorg, then it's going to remove a LOT more packages, and it's going to ask before it does that.
[02:45] <tatters> can you fix in terminal if poo poo
[02:45] <`Xera`> and I really do not want to find out
[02:45] <jhutchins> irssi is the command line client.
[02:45] <`Xera`> can I just leave libgl1-mesa-dri & libgl1-mesa-glx installed?
[02:45] <jhutchins> `Xera`: Don't worry, if it's really going to remove xorg, you'l get a chance to stop it.
[02:46] <jhutchins> `Xera`: I think you can, but I don't have a 9250.
[02:46] <`Xera`> ok I'll trust you on this one
[02:46] <`Xera`> >.>
[02:46] <`Xera`> it's dling kdesktop etc
[02:46] <`Xera`> O.o
[02:46] <jhutchins> Interesting.
[02:46] <`Xera`> this is scary
[02:47] <jhutchins> I really do need to get, wife is waiting for dinner.  (Not a good thing.)
[02:47] <tatters> and all this is to fix or do what exactly
[02:47] <`Xera`> lol
[02:47] <`Xera`> ok
[02:47] <`Xera`> :|
[02:47] <tatters> I lost the plot
[02:47] <`Xera`> same
[02:47] <jhutchins> Sorry, man, look through the links I gave you, see if you can.  It might just be we need an update of the driver.
[02:48] <`Xera`> ok
[02:48] <`Xera`> well
[02:48] <`Xera`> I'll leave these libgl1 thingies installed
[02:48] <`Xera`> and look at the links
[02:48] <hsatera> anyone who can install tapioca(google talk in linux with voice) and teaches me wins a candy
[02:49] <tatters> I probably reinstall my os twice or three times a week got it down to a fine art, in fact if I go a week without reinstalling I get withdrawl symptoms
[02:49] <`Xera`> lol
[02:49] <`Xera`> I reinstalled 4 times yesterday
[02:49] <`Xera`> :|
[02:50] <tatters> then u obviously a guru in my books :)
[02:50] <`Xera`> lol
[02:51] <tatters> I am V close to reinstalling due to keyboard repeatedly
[02:52] <tatters> messing up
[02:53] <`Xera`> wow
[02:53] <`Xera`> glxgears runs fine
[02:53] <`Xera`> with the ati driver
[02:53] <`Xera`> :)
[02:53] <`Xera`> 12650 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2529.962 FPS
[02:53] <`Xera`> 39390 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7877.992 FPS
[02:53] <`Xera`> :O
[02:54] <`Xera`> 7000 FPS?!
[02:55] <DaSkreech> hi Karti
[02:55] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Hello
[02:55] <tatters> 20978 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4195.469 FPS   :(
[02:55] <nikkiana> hi DaSkreech
[02:55] <Karti> DaSkreech: Hi ;)
[02:55] <DaSkreech> How are ya?
[02:55] <Karti> ahh can't sleep!
[02:56] <Karti> but tired
[02:56] <Karti> DaSkreech: You?
[02:56] <`Xera`> tatters: pwnt
[02:56] <`Xera`> :3
[02:57] <tatters> still running compiz on kubuntu gusty as well as glxgears gunna make it worse
[02:57] <DaSkreech> Karti: So the same
[02:57] <tatters> nvidia fx5200 :(
[02:57] <DaSkreech> Karti: I need drugs
[02:57] <DaSkreech> Or cocoa! :)
[02:57] <tatters> 128mb
[02:57] <Karti> lol
[02:57] <tatters> cheap card
[02:58] <tatters> <-- dont play games anymore
[02:58] <Karti> could be worse....my connection could be down....
[03:05] <khaije1> !dbus
[03:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dbus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:05] <tatters> is a self healing OS a reality?
[03:05] <kriscv> I was clicking to get rid of a screen on my desktop and i lost my toolbar and my hubby isn't home to fix it how can i get it back?
[03:06] <tatters> rm /
[03:06] <`Xera`> tatters: lol
[03:06] <kriscv> funny
[03:06] <Karti> right trying that sleep lark again...night all
[03:06] <`Xera`> uh kriscv
[03:06] <kriscv> i know rm means remove
[03:07] <`Xera`> I have no idea how you hid the task bar
[03:07] <`Xera`> trist ctrl - alt - backspace to restart X?
[03:07] <`Xera`> tried*
[03:08] <tatters> Y not say "hey hubby I lost ya toolbar" ?
[03:08] <kriscv> cause hes at work
[03:08] <`Xera`> did it come back?
[03:08] <kriscv> `xera` nope :/
[03:08] <`Xera`> hmm
[03:09] <`Xera`> mean taskbar
[03:09] <`Xera`> >:(
[03:09] <rrbiz> anyone capture video from linux here ?
[03:09] <`Xera`> try clicking where you clicked before
[03:09] <`Xera`> :|
[03:09] <kriscv> iknow :( i'm trying to look up stuff about my daughter and i have to toggle throught w/ alt tab
[03:09] <tatters> I got webcam and  anologue
[03:09] <tatters> tv card
[03:09] <contrast83> Greets, everyone...
[03:10] <`Xera`> hmm
[03:10] <`Xera`> gimmie a sec
[03:10] <kriscv> it used to hide and i tried to find it but didn't know if there was a setting or something i could look for
[03:10] <kriscv> *nod* thanks
[03:10] <contrast83> I'm trying to get a script to exit if it's not run as root and i'm having some problems. Could someone give me some help?
[03:10] <`Xera`> hmm
[03:10] <`Xera`> try moving your mouse to the very bottom of the screen
[03:10] <`Xera`> see if it pops up
[03:12] <kriscv> nope and i tried (r) clicking to get the menu up and it only gives me basic background info
[03:12] <kriscv> i have tried pulling from the bottom sides etc etc
[03:12] <`Xera`> hmm
[03:12] <tatters> can u recover customised toolbars?
[03:13] <kriscv> i don't know where to look
[03:13] <tatters> me thinks not
[03:13] <`Xera`> tried google or the wiki?
[03:13] <`Xera`> I'm stumped
[03:13] <kriscv> no your being very helpfull
[03:13] <`Xera`> well
[03:13] <`Xera`> not really
[03:13] <`Xera`> it hasn't come back
[03:13] <`Xera`> :P
[03:13] <kriscv> hehe true but atleast you are trying to help :P
[03:13] <`Xera`> :)
[03:14] <contrast83> I came in late... What's kriscv trying to do?
[03:14] <`Xera`> her taskbar poofed
[03:14] <`Xera`> and won't come back
[03:14] <tatters> pity u did not take a screenshot of it so we could know what u looking for
[03:14] <contrast83> Alt+F2 -> kicker -> Enter?
[03:14] <koyote> now I can't sync a palm device
[03:14] <koyote> actually, I can't even configure it
[03:14] <kriscv> ya know the bar w/ the start at it :P
[03:15] <`Xera`> try what contrast83 said
[03:15] <tatters> make a new bar add the menu  button
[03:15] <contrast83> kriscv: You have two panels, and only one of them's missing?
[03:15] <tatters> recreate it
[03:16] <contrast83> Did they already try clicking at the left/right edges of the screen where the panel should be, and moving the mouse to all corners of the screen?
[03:17] <kriscv> yup
[03:17] <contrast83> kriscv: What happened when you did Run command -> kicker ?
[03:18] <kriscv> i went to config desktop and went to behav. then did menu bar at top of screen and clicked menu bar just to be able to get anything
[03:18] <contrast83> (Right-click on the desktop or Alt+F2 to bring up the Run dialog?
[03:18] <aTrain> anyoen have problems with nvida 7400 to-go card and beryl?
[03:18] <kriscv> ok it brought up a box
[03:18] <contrast83> ?
[03:18] <kriscv> run command box
[03:19] <kriscv> enter the name of the application you want to run or the url u want to view
[03:19] <contrast83> kriscv: now type "kicker &" in there, no quotes, and hit enter
[03:19] <koyote> okay, kpilot can't find the palm. usb sees it, so this may be a permissions issue, but what is the device?
[03:19] <contrast83> koyote: Can you see it in /media ?
[03:19] <kriscv> didn't do anything
[03:20] <contrast83> kriscv: Ok, do this... Run command again, "kcontrol" -> Desktop -> Panels
[03:21] <tatters> set the controls for the heart of the sun
[03:21] <contrast83> kriscv: That'll let you reconfigure the panels, and if you're not sure what you should set them to, just hit Defaults and Apply and that'll get it back to normal
[03:21] <koyote> nope
[03:21] <koyote> what's in media doesn't change when I plug the palm in
[03:21] <contrast83> koyote: Did the pop-up dialog come up when you plugged it in?
[03:21] <kriscv> omg you guys are life savers thank you so much
[03:21] <contrast83> kriscv: That got it?
[03:22] <kriscv> yes thank you so much
[03:22] <tatters> wd you
[03:22] <contrast83> np :-)
[03:22] <koyote> no, I started kpilot manuall
[03:22] <koyote> manually
[03:22] <kriscv> ya'll have a good night and thank you for being so helpful to the dumb blonde mom
[03:23] <contrast83> koyote: sorry, not too sure on that one. i have no experience with that palms :-\
[03:23] <tatters> dumb blond my ass it was a dude
[03:23] <contrast83> lol
[03:23] <koyote> let me chack the device stuff
[03:23] <`Xera`> tatters: lol
[03:24] <contrast83> "those linux geeks never get laid. they'll be extra quick to help if i pretend to be a girl."
[03:24] <`Xera`> xD
[03:24] <tatters> lol
[03:24] <shiv_j> How do I get icons on the desktop for Computer and Home and recycle bin?
[03:24] <contrast83> so does anyone here know how to get a script to exit if it's not run as root?
[03:24] <`Xera`> she sounded pretty convincing if you ask me
[03:24] <tatters> tatters AKA as melony
[03:25] <contrast83> shiv_j: just drag and drop from Konqueror whatever you want to make a link to onto the desktop
[03:26] <Tomi-idle> amarok 2.0 gonna be soon on kde4 packages
[03:26] <Tomi-idle> ?
[03:26] <adenicio> good night everyone.im lookin to conect linux on windows tru the parralel cable.do i have to install just samba or theres more?
[03:26] <Tomi-idle> i've not liked the resource hogginess of amarok thus far. hope they fix it for kde4
[03:26] <Tomi-idle> nite adaptr
[03:26] <Tomi-idle> adanicio even
[03:26] <contrast83> Tomi-idle: Qt4's supposed to be a lot better on resources, so i'm sure that'll help some
[03:27] <tatters> surely u mean bi parralell cable ?
[03:27] <contrast83> kinda weird that Qt4's supposedly less system-intensive even though it has all this extra eye-candy
[03:28] <Tomi-idle> contrast83: hopefully so. amarok has been unusable with 10k+ databeses so far compared to audacious
[03:28] <Tomi-idle> 5% cpu usage on 3700+ is unacceptable
[03:28] <contrast83> ??? I've got around 12k mp3's and it zips along for me
[03:28] <adenicio> tatters: mmm i tink its the ftp cable
[03:28] <adenicio> for some words i know only in french
[03:29] <Tomi-idle> dunno. i've not had luck with my machine or friends' machines with sql lite
[03:29] <tatters> what u runnin 8 bit paper tape and teletype?
[03:29] <adenicio> tatters: lol
[03:29] <freenot> hi all, did an upgrade => feisty on kubuntu, now sound is gone, ran soundconf, card is there and set, what should i do next?
[03:30] <contrast83> freenot: don't know that one off-hand, but if no one else here can help you, have a look on the forums. i'm pretty sure i remember seeing several threads with that exact problem
[03:31] <freenot> contrast83: k, cheers
[03:33] <contrast83> Tomi-idle: Amarok's back and forth between 0-6% user for me right now, with a 50 song playlist loaded... doesn't really seem to be affecting performance though
[03:34] <ardchoille> How do I get the bookmarks in the konqueror web browser to not show up in the konqueror file manager? I"m using a different profile for each but that doesn't seem to seperate the bookmarks.
[03:34] <contrast83> wow. jumps way up when it changes songs though. never noticed that ~60% :-O
[03:34] <aTrain> is there a good place to go to see if a Nvida 7400 to-go video card will work with beryl...haveing some problems and cant find the answer.
[03:34] <contrast83> aTrain: i'm guessing you already googled "nvidia 7400 beryl"
[03:34] <contrast83> ?
[03:34] <aTrain> lol yea :(
[03:35] <contrast83> heh, sorry. have to ask. :-P
[03:35] <aTrain> i get a white terminal when it loads
[03:35] <contrast83> ohh... :-\
[03:35] <aTrain> hehe least someone noticed
[03:35] <contrast83> white screen of death? you can rotate the cube but everything's white?
[03:36] <adydas> This was a wicked helpfull site for me
[03:36] <aTrain> yea it rotates...oh and one other thing...i lose the minimize maximize and close buttons
[03:36] <adydas> with kubunut and a Nvida card and beryl
[03:36] <adydas> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/nVIDIA
[03:36] <contrast83> aTrain: umm... so is everything white, as in you can't see *anything* unless you're rotating the cube?
[03:37] <adenicio> good night everyone.im lookin to conect linux on windows tru the ftp cable.do i have to install just samba or theres more?
[03:37] <contrast83> adenicio: you mean a crossover cable?
[03:38] <aTrain> no i can see everything but i get a white terminal window and no topbar on windows
[03:38] <contrast83> (crossover = ethernet cable made for connecting two computers directly with no router or switch between them)
[03:39] <adenicio> contrast83: oh is that wa u does call them
[03:39] <contrast83> white terminal window? not sure what you're talking about, but if you can see everything and you can rotate the cube, it *will* work with your card
[03:39] <contrast83> adenicio: yeah... not sure how to do what you're trying to do though, but you'll probably get better results calling it that. ;-)
[03:39] <aTrain> well thats good to know
[03:40] <contrast83> aTrain: give me one second....
[03:40] <aTrain> np
[03:40] <aTrain> im in class so i got time to kill :)
[03:40] <adenicio> contrast83: yes .i just want to conect my pc to another who's on windows that we can shared files
[03:41] <adydas> Can anyone suggest a good mp3 streaming server
[03:41] <adydas> site for setup
[03:41] <adenicio> contrast83: do i only have to install samba or there are more to install?
[03:41] <contrast83> FusioBot: To fix your beryl/compiz window decorations (titlebars) with an nVidia graphics card, run  sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24 , then restart !X.
[03:41] <adydas> ive found icecast but i cant find decent suppport to get it going
[03:41] <contrast83> aTrain: there you go
[03:41] <aTrain> awsome thanks!
[03:42] <contrast83> adenicio: i would imagine samba's all you need. can't say for sure though
[03:42] <contrast83> adenicio: and i *think* since you're not using a router, you'll want to set the network as "ad-hoc" instead of managed, but i'm not sure
[03:42] <contrast83> np
[03:42] <`Xera`> Weird
[03:42] <`Xera`> When I run CS 1.6 in Wine my monitor says "Cannot display this video mode"
[03:43] <`Xera`> I set CS to use 1024x768
[03:43] <`Xera`> which my monitor supports
[03:43] <contrast83> hmm
[03:43] <contrast83> try running in a virtual desktop, or set CS to windowed maybe?
[03:43] <`Xera`> I'll try windowed
[03:45] <aTrain> constrast83 trying it now...thanks for the help!
[03:45] <contrast83> np, good luck
[03:45] <underdog5004> A while ago, I set up my server to do sync-backups with rdiff-backup. I remember having to edit a file on my desktop computer (the origin of the copys) so that the user I created would only be able to login, and run rdiff-backup. Now, I'm trying to use the script I made under a different user name, but it doesn't work. I think I need to re-edit that file, but I can't remember what it's called. Does anyone have a clue
[03:45] <underdog5004> as to what I'm talking about? ha ha.
[03:45] <Ange|us> hello, can someone tell me if i need to install something for kubuntu to read my mobile's memory card?
[03:46] <Ange|us> im using a card reader, i tried my digital camera's memory card in it and it worked, i tried the mobile's memory card in it and it didnt work
[03:46] <contrast83> underdog5004: i'm sure you already thought of this, but did you try logging in as the original user that ran the script and just running history?
[03:48] <underdog5004> contrast83, no...I didn't realize that history was a command...
[03:48] <underdog5004> h/o
[03:48] <contrast83> k
[03:49] <VARGUX> Angelus.... can you maks a search in google, for this topic?
[03:50] <underdog5004> contrast83, I don't know why the tutorial had me create a whole new user just for the simple task of backing up...is this a standard?
[03:50] <aTrain> omg man I think you fixed it!
[03:50] <Ange|us> no dude cause im new to linux and i dont know if i need to install any packages for the card reader to read mobile cards
[03:50] <Tomi-idle> jackie chan can do anything :3
[03:51] <VARGUX> Angelus... wait a sec...
[03:51] <contrast83> underdog5004: not that i'm aware of, but i always just used mondo for backing up
[03:51] <underdog5004> hmmm...
[03:51] <contrast83> aTrain: did you restart X already?
[03:51] <underdog5004> brb
[03:52] <contrast83> mondo's a PITA though. i'm looking for a better solution
[03:53] <Ange|us> ok VARGUX
[03:54] <contrast83> Ange|us: When you took your camera's card out, did you "properly" eject it? (right-click its icon on the desktop -> Safely remove)
[03:54] <Ange|us> contrast83, the camera's card work fine in the card reader, the mobile's card doesnt
[03:54] <mneptok> Ange|us: what format is the phone card? FAT32?
[03:54] <contrast83> i know. that's why i asked the question ;-)
[03:54] <Ange|us> the card reader is a usb one
[03:54] <Ange|us> i dont know mneptok i just got the mobile
[03:55] <VARGUX> Angelus... check /dev
[03:55] <VARGUX> Check the /dev directory for any reference to sda*, sdb* etc. Also make sure that the /etc/fstab file has a line similar to this before trying to mount the stick:
[03:55] <VARGUX> /dev/sda1 /mnt/removable auto umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,kudzu,codepage=850,noauto,exec,users 0 0
[03:55] <mneptok> Ange|us: if it's a format Linux can't read ....
[03:55] <mneptok> VARGUX: please do not paste to the channel
[03:55] <Assid> err.. anyone here using vmware?
[03:55] <Assid> once you go to full screen mode
[03:55] <Assid> how do you come back?
[03:55] <contrast83> pasting *one* line is off-limits?
[03:56] <VARGUX> but... if you have a SATA disk (sdaX)... you must change X number
[03:56] <VARGUX> mneptok.... sorry for paste!
[03:56] <mneptok> np
[03:56] <Ange|us> also, i  have another card reader USB too, its like a pendrive but with an opening for the mobile's memcard, and it didnt work, then i tried a normal pen and the normal storage pen worked
[03:57] <mneptok> contrast83: that wasn't one line
[03:57] <Ange|us> VARGUX, idont have sata hard disc
[03:57] <VARGUX> ok
[03:57] <contrast83> well... one message :-P
[03:57] <mneptok> contrast83: what if my "one message" is the unabridged contents of Tolstoy's "War and Peace?"
[03:57] <VARGUX> ...or... try the  lsmod  command to see ig the SCSI modules are loaded.....
[03:58] <contrast83> not quite a good analogy, but whatever. agree to disagree
[03:58] <adenicio> WHY CANT I REPLY TO INSTALL OGRAMMES,
[03:58] <adenicio> WHY CANT I REPLY TO INSTALL OGRAMMES,
[03:58] <underdog5004> adenicio, because you're writing in caps
[03:58] <`Xera`> ok well CS 1.6 runs but when I get in game I get 5 FPS
[03:58] <`Xera`> Slideshow _/
[03:58] <VARGUX> Angelus
[03:58] <Ange|us> scsi_mod              142348  4 sg,sd_mod,usb_storage,libata
[03:59] <Ange|us> tell me
[03:59] <underdog5004> adenicio, sudo apt-get install program name
[03:59] <contrast83> underdog5004: i'm not registered :-)
[03:59] <underdog5004> oh...
[03:59] <underdog5004> h/o
[03:59] <underdog5004> well...ha ha, ok
[03:59] <contrast83> heh
[03:59] <underdog5004> you read it though, right?
[03:59] <contrast83> yeah
[03:59] <VARGUX> ...when you plug your camera.... what hapend?
[03:59] <underdog5004> k
[03:59] <Ange|us> it mounts the card
[03:59] <Ange|us> and i can see everything in it
[03:59] <contrast83> underdog5004: do you know how to get a script to exit if it's not run as root?
[04:00] <VARGUX> ok.... and???
[04:00] <adenicio> underdog5004: its harasing to go in shell to type i perferd just to go in adept and install wa i see
[04:00] <Ange|us> and i dont plug the camera, i just plug out its memory card and insert it into my USB card reader
[04:00] <underdog5004> adenicio, try out synaptic
[04:00] <underdog5004> contrast83, in crontab? just put the username in front of the command
[04:00] <contrast83> synaptic owns adept, as much as i hate to say it
[04:00] <Ange|us> VARGUX, then i can get the pictures from it
[04:00] <adenicio> underdog5004: syn is on kubuntu?
[04:01] <underdog5004> adenicio, sudo apt-get install synaptic
[04:01] <contrast83> underdog5004: no, i mean in the script itself
[04:01] <underdog5004> contrast83, no...it's a user bias-free script
[04:01] <underdog5004> no relative links, etc
[04:01] <VARGUX> mmm.... you "must" copy/paste your image manually........ xD
[04:01] <underdog5004> want a gander?
[04:01] <contrast83> underdog5004: no no, different subject. something *i'm* trying to do :-)
[04:01] <Ange|us> yes
[04:01] <underdog5004> contrast83, oh, haha
[04:02] <contrast83> sorry, should've clarified there. heh
[04:02] <contrast83> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32437/
[04:02] <underdog5004> you might try su - username...but you can't automate it like that
[04:02] <Ange|us> or theres an option on the right click to download the picture from the memcard with a prog
[04:02] <underdog5004> you'll have to be there to input a password
[04:02] <adenicio> underdog5004: it keep giving me dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[04:02] <VARGUX> ...... exist this option?....
[04:02] <underdog5004> adenicio, so have you?
[04:03] <contrast83> i know... i'm just writing a script that's gonna make a bunch of calls to apt-get and such, and i want it to exit if it's not run with the sudo prefix.
[04:04] <underdog5004> ah...I have no idea. Although, if you ran it with sudo, I don't think you'll need to put in the password...
[04:05] <VARGUX> Ange|us.................... what is your problem???
[04:05] <VARGUX> in specific...
[04:05] <adenicio> underdog5004: have what?
[04:05] <contrast83> yeah... i'm just trying to figure out how to get it to exit automatically if it's not run with sudo. :-\
[04:05] <Ange|us> my problem is that the card reader is not reading my mobile's memory card, and i have 2 different card readers
[04:05] <underdog5004> adenicio, have you run sudo dpkg --configure -a ?
[04:06] <adenicio> underdog5004: yeah it said something super blabla
[04:06] <contrast83> pfft
[04:06] <underdog5004> adenicio, that error may be important...what is it exactly?
[04:07] <contrast83> !paste | adenicio
[04:07] <ubotu> adenicio: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:07] <underdog5004> contrast83, maybe have it try to mv a file that's a root only file...
[04:07] <underdog5004> or cp, at least
[04:07] <contrast83> ehh... that's ugly :-P
[04:07] <underdog5004> contrast83, then grep the output
[04:07] <DYINGOFROBBERY> is there am irc channel for blender?
[04:07] <underdog5004> maybe w then grep for the scriptname and user associated with it?
[04:08] <Biovore> DYINGOFROBBERY: did you try #blender?
[04:08] <DYINGOFROBBERY> no im sorry
[04:08] <contrast83> there's a way to do it. i'm trying to do it the way ABS ( http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ ) says, but that's not working
[04:08] <contrast83> underdog5004: thanks anyway
[04:08] <underdog5004> np
[04:08] <adenicio> contrast83: hien???
[04:08] <contrast83> ???
[04:08] <vargux_> .......... hey VARGUX?
[04:08] <adenicio> underdog5004: i dont know wa it is its the first time i saw that and im a beginner in linux
[04:08] <vargux_> ...i'm VARGUX..... what hapen here!
[04:09] <underdog5004> adenicio, is english your first language? there are other rooms for different languages.
[04:09] <Tomi-idle> contrast83: when you add a lot of songs amarok 1.4.6 seems way too sluggish
[04:09] <pepe_> hola
[04:09] <underdog5004> adenicio, feel free to paste the error here.
[04:09] <Tomi-idle> compared to old winamps, mpd, xmms, audacious
[04:09] <underdog5004> !es | pepe
[04:09] <ubotu> pepe: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:09] <pepe_> gracias
[04:09] <underdog5004> de nada
[04:09] <vargux_> pepe
[04:10] <Tomi-idle> the whole purpose of digital audio is you can put your cds to the shelves and get a fast way to access the songs without slowdowns
[04:10] <adenicio> underdog5004: ah the shell gone bad
[04:10] <vargux_> in ubuntu-es there are a few persons...
[04:10] <adenicio> crazy
[04:10] <contrast83> Tomi-idle: that's why you set up your collection once and don't worry about adding huge numbers of songs again after that ;-)
[04:10] <underdog5004> what do you mean?
[04:10] <underdog5004> type in reset
[04:10] <vargux_> pepe... (si quieres te puedo ayudar)
[04:11] <underdog5004> then type in sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:11] <Tomi-idle> contrast83: the collection works kinda counter intuitive for me. i like to shuffle through all playlist fast. all songs include
[04:11] <Tomi-idle> then just take shuffle off when i find a song/album i wanna listen
[04:12] <level1> Hi guys, I'm having a little trouble with wireless.  I have a pci wireless card and just bought a usb wireless card.  The usb wireless card is a linksys.  I'm not afraid on proprietary drivers, but what drivers do I need?
[04:12] <contrast83> Tomi-idle: hmm... can't see why you'd want to do it that way, but ok... i wouldn't hold my breath for a music player that can do everything Amarok does that caters to that. :-)
[04:12] <underdog5004> level1, what's the model/make?
[04:12] <Tomi-idle> also the cover download mechanism sucks for albums/bands that are not really much known
[04:12] <level1> the computer I'm having trouble with doesn't have internet, but I can jump .deb packages from this computer
[04:12] <underdog5004> level1, what's the model/make?
[04:13] <contrast83> Tomi-idle: i definitely concur on your last point... there's a little (seemingly not well known) trick to get around that though
[04:13] <level1> underdog5004: "Compact Wireless-G USB Network Adapter with Speedbooster"
[04:13] <Tomi-idle> contrast83: it would be great if it could have a simplified version of it in the same package. all integration working but the gui/useless crap off of it
[04:13] <underdog5004> and the pci card, level1?
[04:13] <level1> underdog5004: Model No. WUSB54GSC
[04:14] <level1> underdog5004: actually, I don't know.  It doesn't seem to appear on lspci.  I bought it a year ago
[04:14] <contrast83> the "useless crap" is what makes Amarok stand out. if you want something like winamp, use xmms. -_~
[04:14] <underdog5004> whoa...weird...h/o while I google...
[04:14] <Tomi-idle> contrast83: we'll see when amarok gets sophisticated to cater the people wanting low comsumption of resources <.< heh
[04:14] <Tomi-idle> xmms doesnt really work too well with kde though
[04:14] <Tomi-idle> thus making the point of using xmms invalid
[04:15] <Tomi-idle> you cant drag and drop files to the playlist or to k3b or anything
[04:15] <contrast83> Tomi-idle: it *does* do low consumption of system resources, just not when you're loading a huge playlist. why do you need to have 500 songs loaded into a playlist when you can browse your collection right there?
[04:15] <ardchoille> Tomi-idle: xmms works great in my kubuntu, never had any problems with it.
[04:15] <Tomi-idle> audacious is pretty much working for me, except same things with xmms.. things not wokring i want
[04:15] <level1> Tomi-idle, contrast83: I think amarok is more designed for managing playlists.
[04:16] <Tomi-idle> ardchoille: try to drag files you want to burn to k3b... not gonna happen...
[04:16] <contrast83> Tomi-idle: you're not gonna be happy with Amarok 2.0. from everything i've read, it's focusing more on small playlists and all the "useless" crap
[04:16] <underdog5004> contrast83, http://www.pastebin.ca/645005
[04:16] <contrast83> Amarok 2.0 is gonna have 3 frames - collection on the left, context browser in the middle, and playlist on the right
[04:16] <Tomi-idle> amarok works well for dragging and dropping but hate to wait for 10 minutes to get the collection up to date, then 5 minutes to get the playlist from all songs. then drag&drop to burning software
[04:16] <Tomi-idle> contrast83: dang a<.<
[04:17] <ardchoille> Tomi-idle: Well, that's not xmms's failing, it's an issue of the devs not putting in a feature. xmms works as intended.
[04:17] <contrast83> Tomi-idle: xmms isn't a kde app. that's why d&d doesn't work ;-)
[04:17] <Tomi-idle> xmms works great. but it's old
[04:17] <level1> contrast83: if they just designed amarok to use MySQL or PgSQL by default, it would be fast.
[04:17] <contrast83> Tomi-idle: there *are* other kde music players. have you tried juk, or noatun?
[04:18] <Tomi-idle> contrast83: i know that... but it would be great if there would be someone to make it work with kde
[04:18] <Tomi-idle> juk sucked with huge playlists. noatun sucked perioud
[04:18] <Tomi-idle> noadtun actually didn't work at some point for any thing i tried
[04:18] <Tomi-idle> and i did try several version
[04:18] <underdog5004> level1, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=225206
[04:18] <contrast83> it's *not* a kde app. when something's not designed with that in mind, it's pretty unlikely it's ever gonna be changed. that would take nearly a complete overhaul of the code, i'd imagine
[04:19] <Tomi-idle> could be a codec problem but none of the other programs had same problems
[04:19] <underdog5004> looks like you need to use ndiswrapper with the windows driver, which should be on the driver disk that came with the dongle.
[04:19] <Tomi-idle> i always thought open source applications could easily be switched between different tool kits..
[04:19] <contrast83> if you're hooked on the integration kde apps offer, use kde apps. ;-)
[04:20] <Tomi-idle> esp something like xmms which doesn't have that much of graphical output
[04:20] <ardchoille> How do I get the bookmarks in the konqueror web browser to not show up in the konqueror file manager? I'm using a different profile for each but that doesn't seem to seperate the bookmarks.
[04:20] <contrast83> hrmm... not sure about that
[04:20] <Tomi-idle> there are not any winamp/xmms clones for kde .. i've searched for 2 years now ..lol
[04:20] <contrast83> Tomi-idle: but we're not just talking about toolkits. we're talking about actual integration
[04:21] <Tomi-idle> contrast83: im sure if someone does a qt interface for xmms there will easily a drag&drop function for kde
[04:21] <Tomi-idle> i think they've designed it for just that
[04:21] <contrast83> ardchoille: i don't think that's possible. that's one of the biggest problems konqueror has with being a file manager and a web browser, and last i heard, they're working on fixing it, but it could be a long way off
[04:21] <Aondo> hmm wasnt there a xmms2 on the run? like server-client thingy
[04:22] <Tomi-idle> glad trolltech does work with gtk to intergrate the 2 toolkits
[04:22] <ardchoille> contrast83: I feel the same way about that :(
[04:22] <Tomi-idle> xmms2 is still in development. it's more server oriented than xmms1
[04:22] <underdog5004> contrast83, http://www.pastebin.ca/645008
[04:23] <Tomi-idle> there's not any good qt/kde interfaces for xmms2
[04:23] <Aondo> maybe any time in the future :)
[04:23] <Tomi-idle> im wondering why mozilla hasn't catered the kde users with firefox...
[04:23] <contrast83> underdog5004: sorry, no idea. that's way beyond my realm. might ask around in #bash?
[04:24] <Tomi-idle> firefox runs like crap on kde compared to gnome
[04:24] <underdog5004> ah, it's no big
[04:24] <underdog5004> thanks anyway
[04:24] <contrast83> np
[04:24] <elite101> what no it doesnt?
[04:24] <Assid> hrmm.. the fonts for me within firefox just sucks :(
[04:24] <Assid> i think its the arial font
[04:24] <elite101> Tomi-idls, it doesnt run like crap it runs better than konqueror
[04:24] <Assid> anyone know any reason for this to happen ? konversation seems to be working brilliantly
[04:25] <Tomi-idle> firefox is working great the way it is.. why don't the just make it more available for people who actually use it instead of adding more and more junk in it
[04:25] <Tomi-idle> elite101: runs a lot worse than konqueror on me
[04:25] <elite101> why?
[04:25] <Aondo> hmm btw the compiling on the kde4 beta1 took alot more time than i expected :/
[04:25] <contrast83> Tomi-idle: do you have adblock on firefox?
[04:25] <elite101> i think firefox is easier to use, esp when downloading plug-ins
[04:25] <Assid> Tomi-idle: huh?
[04:25] <Tomi-idle> it's a gtk application. it's not designed for kde, konqueror renders damn fast
[04:26] <elite101> lol
[04:26] <Tomi-idle> contrast83: yeah
[04:26] <elite101> they run both the same
[04:26] <Assid> err.. does the arial font have issues with 96dpi or something?
[04:26] <elite101> just firefox is a little more mature than konqueror
[04:26] <Tomi-idle> elite101: definately not :)
[04:26] <contrast83> not enough sites are tested on konqueror for me to make it my only browser yet. i kinda doubt that day will ever come
[04:26] <Assid> i think its causing an issue for me
[04:26] <level1> underdog5004: actually, I installed 64 bit... maybe I should just give up and install 32 bit?
[04:26] <Biovore> elite101: I think konqueror has been around longer then firefox..
[04:26] <underdog5004> level1, absolutely, imho
[04:27] <elite101> plus firefox runs beter than Konqueror and IE sites perfer FireFox than IE6/7
[04:27] <level1> underdog5004: thats unforturnate
[04:27] <underdog5004> for me, 64-bit just doesn't provide enough of an advantage.
[04:27] <level1> elite101: konqueror isn't that bad
[04:27] <Tomi-idle> i'd definately use konqueror if it'd have same functionality than firefox. there's a lot counter-intuitivity in konqueror. it's not designed for a lot of people to use it. more like an advanced group of people who find that way beste
[04:27] <elite101> no firefox is matured like develpoed more
[04:27] <elite101> i know
[04:27] <elite101> its not bad
[04:27] <elite101> but i like firefox a little more for the things it can do
[04:27] <Assid> err. can someone help me on this whole font issue
[04:28] <Assid> somehow arial is looking all crappy for me
[04:28] <Tomi-idle> i just installed 64 bit gutsy just to see if i can find any visible speed difference after few monts
[04:28] <Tomi-idle> months
[04:28] <contrast83> Assid: You have anti-aliasing on?
[04:28] <elite101> did u?
[04:28] <mrksbrd> I've noticed Konqueror ran fine, only prob was when view media on the net
[04:28] <Assid> contrast83: yes
[04:28] <ardchoille> elite101: My bank doesn't allow anything but IE and I got konqueror running that site with just a few clicks of the User Agent settings.
[04:28] <contrast83> Assid: LCD monitor?
[04:28] <Assid> lemme verify that for you contrast83
[04:28] <elite101> weird
[04:28] <Assid> contrast83: nah.. CRT
[04:28] <Tomi-idle> konquror runs like schweeet on my box. any kde installation. firefox on the other hand is sluggish
[04:29] <level1> mrksbrd: actually, I never have that much trouble running media on konqueror.  maybe you have to configure stuff?
[04:29] <elite101> im not putting anything down about IE/Konqueror just in my opion i like firefox i can see what u mean about konqueror sometimes it loads faster than firefox
[04:29] <shiv_j> what is katapult?
[04:29] <contrast83> katapult is a god-send :-)
[04:29] <Assid> contrast83: yes.. anti aliasing on .. with subpixel hinting.. full hinting style
[04:29] <elite101> Kmenu>utiltys
[04:29] <elite101> utilitys*
[04:29] <Tomi-idle> ie is straight from hell.. anyone can agree with that
[04:29] <elite101> lol
[04:29] <elite101> it loads so slowwwwww
[04:30] <elite101> esp IE78
[04:30] <elite101> IE7*
[04:30] <Tomi-idle> ie7 is bloatware
[04:30] <underdog5004> ha ha
[04:30] <elite101> whats bloatware?
[04:30] <elite101> i think i know what it means
[04:30] <underdog5004> ware that bloats
[04:30] <elite101> lol ic
[04:30] <contrast83> shiv_j: it's a universal launcher - you can launch any application by typing a few letters of its name, or if amarok's running, quickly play any song in your collection, as well as quickly open bookmarks
[04:30] <Tomi-idle> i think m$ is trying to fit pieces that are circles, rectancles and star-shaped together
[04:30] <Assid> contrast83: it just looks really screwy.. i mean ive seen arial.. its one of the most common fonts.. but this looks pretty darn crappy
[04:30] <contrast83> shiv_j: do Alt+Space, Ctrl+C -> Configure Katapult
[04:31] <contrast83> Assid: Was there a problem with Sans Serif?
[04:31] <Tomi-idle> i admit microsoft has done an excellent job on marketing windows thus far
[04:31] <underdog5004> I never understood why people get so worked up over fonts...imho, as long as I can read them, it's fine...
[04:31] <Tomi-idle> but i think vista makes people think twice if they really want to develop for it
[04:31] <contrast83> Tomi-idle: That's all they do - market :-P
[04:31] <contrast83> same here, underdog5004
[04:31] <Assid> contrast83: not to my knowledge.. i think konversation is running fine.. and i think thats on sans serif
[04:31] <shiv_j> contrast83: thanks :)
[04:32] <Assid> so doesnt look like it
[04:32] <contrast83> shiv_j: np
[04:32] <Tomi-idle> windows xp actually is a decent os. if you don't think of the inheritable problems with security
[04:32] <contrast83> Assid: I'd stick with sans serif then ;-)
[04:32] <shiv_j> FOR FONTS: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208396&highlight=install+windows+fonts
[04:32] <contrast83> Based on package management alone, i could never go back to windows
[04:32] <underdog5004> !liberation
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about liberation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <Tomi-idle> lol
[04:32] <underdog5004> !liberation-fonts
[04:32] <elite101> doesnt microsoft have its own font?
[04:32] <contrast83> not even mentioning all the other great things linux offers
[04:32] <Assid> contrast83: alot of sites use arial :( heck my site uses arial
[04:33] <contrast83> !find liberation-fonts
[04:33] <ubotu> Package/file liberation-fonts does not exist in feisty
[04:33] <contrast83> !wake up, bot
[04:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wake up, bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:33] <Assid> shiv_j: yeah.. ive installed alot of ttf fonts
[04:33] <elite101> !ubotu
[04:33] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:33] <Tomi-idle> i like the package management but it doesn' sign the deal for me.
[04:33] <contrast83> !anything
[04:33] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[04:33] <contrast83> hehe
[04:33] <mrksbrd> is there any way to see all avail software avail for ubuntu???
[04:33] <elite101> lol
[04:33] <elite101> nice one
[04:33] <underdog5004> mrksbrd, yes.
[04:33] <Tomi-idle> there's win-deb!
[04:33] <Assid> could be anti aliasing for small sizes?
[04:33] <elite101> !everything
[04:33] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:33] <elite101> ahh
[04:33] <underdog5004> mrksbrd, sudo apt-cache search *
[04:34] <elite101> :P
[04:34] <mrksbrd> ty
[04:34] <underdog5004> that would be nuts though...
[04:34] <underdog5004> use synaptic instead
[04:34] <contrast83> lol
[04:34] <Tomi-idle> or was it apt-win .. can't remembe
[04:34] <Tomi-idle> read it on digg. ...
[04:34] <elite101> !intelligence
[04:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intelligence - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:34] <Assid> err.. why do you disable anti aliasing for small size fonts?
[04:34] <ardchoille> underdog5004 , mrksbrd: you don't need sudo to search. and you can search in names only with: apt-cache search --names-only packagename
[04:34] <contrast83> that sh.. would break your system really quick, i'm sure
[04:35] <underdog5004> contrast83, win-get, I think
[04:35] <markc> how do I find out what my timezone is from a shell, and/or set it ?
[04:35] <Tomi-idle> im off to bed. nite all
[04:35] <contrast83> g'nite
[04:35] <markc> I used to use tzconfig
[04:36] <mrksbrd> has anyone ndiswrapper??
[04:37] <contrast83> mrksbrd: what kind of card do you have?
[04:37] <contrast83> wireless card*
[04:37] <mrksbrd> verizon aircard
[04:38] <`Xera`> curl can't connect to any websites :|
[04:38] <elite101> its weird thou i had to install flashplayer using firefox inorder for youtube to work on konqueror ?
[04:38] <mrksbrd> everything out there that I read, still cant get it to work
[04:38] <contrast83> mrksbrd: i don't think ndiswrapper works for those. could be wrong though
[04:39] <mrksbrd> well it's an emulator for windows drivers right?
[04:39] <contrast83> mrksbrd: your best bet is to search the forums for verizon and the model # of the card. i'm pretty sure there are a few threads on there for getting those working
[04:39] <adenicio> how to stop updates?it taken 27month to update i dont have dsl yet
[04:39] <contrast83> mrksbrd: yeah, but it doesn't work for *every* windows driver ;-)
[04:40] <contrast83> adenicio: Cancel
[04:40] <mrksbrd> yea there is threads, unless i'm reading them wrong....still cant get it to work
[04:41] <mrksbrd> alot of them are for my card but for sprint service......guessing this may be the problem
[04:41] <mrksbrd> figured most settings should be generic
[04:41] <contrast83> mrksbrd: not sure then, sorry. :-\
[04:42] <mrksbrd> lol....i must be one of the only ones to attempt to do this w/a verizon card
[04:43] <mrksbrd> see ya all l8tr & thanks for the info
[04:43] <contrast83> np
[04:44] <bonesss> hey friends
[04:44] <elite101> hey i was having problems with my wireless and wondering why? well i found out and did a temp reading on it @ about 70c the "ATMEL" chip got when it was in use. So i thought about how to cool it.
[04:44] <elite101> so i did come up with something
[04:44] <bonesss> how do i make to install codecs for real video in 64bits?
[04:44] <`Xera`> Does anybody here use Electric Sheep and know if the servers are down?
[04:45] <elite101> I took a fan from a heatsink and mounted it onto the USB doggle cutting out a square and mounting the Fan by screws its just a mini fan but does bring in cold air. I soulderd the 5+(volts) Grnd to the under side of the USB doggle and works pretty good
[04:45] <elite101> the fan can go alittle faster but the USB is only 5+ volts
[04:46] <markc> the answer to how to find out what timezone a remote machine is in, from the shell is: cat /etc/timezone
[04:46] <BluesKaj> dunno `Xera`, my rubberboots are well grounded tho :)
[04:46] <elite101> but it does cool it down thou. I used a Linksys WUSB11
[04:46] <elite101> there was alot of room for "modding" ;)
[04:46] <bonesss> I NEED TO INSTALL RMVB CODECS
[04:47] <contrast83> bonesss: yelling at us won't make us help you quicker ;-)
[04:47] <contrast83> !patience | bonesss
[04:47] <ubotu> bonesss: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:47] <ripcrd> I have an xorg problem.  I have Kubuntu 7.04 Feisty and an nVidia PCIX 5900.  I have set the resolution in the nVidia driver to 1280x960, but on every reboot I'm back to 640x480.  Any ideas?  I have also tried editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf by hand.  Still same problem.
[04:47] <elite101> lol i invented the super cooled WIFI'r and i wish i could of went to defcon 15 :( :(
[04:47] <elite101> lol my psp can do some nasty things :P
[04:48] <bonesss> ;\
[04:48] <contrast83> ripcrd: What driver are you using?
[04:48] <ripcrd> nVidia official
[04:48] <bonesss> i've questioned here and never i've got answers =\
[04:49] <contrast83> bonesss: you just nead the real audio/video codecs, right?
[04:49] <ripcrd> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1
[04:49] <contrast83> ripcrd: did you already try taking out all of the resolutions except the one you want to use?
[04:49] <ripcrd> yep
[04:50] <underdog5004> elite101, ha ha, I did the same thing with my router
[04:50] <contrast83> ripcrd: how about sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[04:50] <ripcrd> why on earth anyone would pick 640x480 for default, I will never know.
[04:50] <ripcrd> contrast83: haven't tried that
[04:50] <bonesss> contrast83: yes, but for 64bits
[04:51] <contrast83> you *might* give that a shot, reboot and see what happens. just make sure you pick nvidia-glx when it asks you what driver to use. pretty much everything else you can leave at the defaults
[04:51] <contrast83> bonesss: that's a tough one, sorry. not too sure. have you tried real's website?
[04:52] <bonesss> not yet
[04:52] <contrast83> -_~
[04:52] <elite101> underdog5004, it does work really good its just that well my wireless is really ghetto:P i  basically made the thing. it works very good keeping it cool from all that packet sniffing and such ....(justkidding :P)
[04:53] <contrast83> ripcrd: that command i gave you is worth memorizing (it's mentioned at the top of xorg.conf too). if you're ever stuck at the command line and X won't start, running that will usually get things back to normal
[04:57] <bonesss> !real
[04:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:57] <bonesss> !real64
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[04:57] <bonesss> !rmvb 64
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[04:58] <bonesss> !w32codecs 64
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[04:59] <BluesKaj> !bot abuse | bonesss
[04:59] <ubotu> bonesss: Please don't play with the bots, or else... Also see !behaviour and !msgthebot
[05:00] <bonesss> ok ;\
[05:00] <contrast83> bonesss: Why 64-bit? You know the speed differences are minimal over 32-bit, right?
[05:01] <bonesss> really?
[05:02] <bonesss> what's the advantage of 64 over 32?
[05:02] <adenicio> contrast83: why i cant install thing that in adept?saying there was prob downloadin or the package
[05:03] <contrast83> adenicio: did you hit Cancel?
[05:03] <contrast83> bonesss: not much. a couple seconds on certain things here and there.
[05:03] <adenicio> yes not cancel but quit contrast83
[05:03] <contrast83> adenicio: #ubuntu-es
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> adenicio: try installing via a cmd line, that will generally give more verbose error messages
[05:04] <contrast83> adenicio: i think they'd be able to help you better there :-)
[05:04] <contrast83> bonesss: do you already have a lot of stuff set up on your current installation of Kubuntu?
[05:04] <bonesss> yes
[05:05] <bonesss> i was thinkin' in install the kubuntu 32
[05:05] <bonesss> but
[05:05] <contrast83> that's what i'd recommend
[05:05] <bonesss> i'm lazy =)
[05:05] <contrast83> 64-bit just isn't there yet, imho
[05:05] <hitmanWilly> bonesss: trying to get flash working on 64 bit?
[05:05] <contrast83> bonesss: you could do this...
[05:06] <contrast83> hitmanWilly: real codecs
[05:06] <hitmanWilly> ahhh
[05:06] <bonesss> flash has already working
[05:06] <hitmanWilly> bonesss: wow, a lot of people have issues with that
[05:07] <bonesss> what do u think about automatix?
[05:07] <hitmanWilly> bonesss: it sucks
[05:07] <hitmanWilly> :)
[05:07] <bonesss> why?
[05:07] <contrast83> !automatix
[05:07] <elite101> does kubuntu allready have a DVD player?
[05:07] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:07] <elite101> does kubuntu allready have a DVD player?
[05:07] <boris_> i studiy id
[05:07] <boris_> in sucks
[05:07] <boris_> dvd player
[05:07] <contrast83> elite101: yeah, kaffeine.
[05:08] <hitmanWilly> bonesss: it makes a lot of assumptions about your system when installing things
[05:08] <bonesss> ohh
[05:08] <bonesss> it's not good
[05:08] <elite101> does kubuntu allready have a DVD player?
[05:08] <elite101> k
[05:08] <elite101> lol
[05:08] <bonesss> and the easy ubuntu?
[05:08] <hitmanWilly> elite101: or xine, or vlc...
[05:08] <boris_> automatx rules
[05:08] <boris_> :9
[05:08] <elite101> xine i was going to get since it has support for .avi but VLC should be the best rite?
[05:08] <boris_> :)
[05:08] <boris_> :)
[05:08] <boris_> :)
[05:08] <contrast83> bonesss: "sudo dpkg --get-selections > installed-stuff", then burn that and your home folder to a cd, reinstall in 32-bit, copy your home folder back over, and "sudo dpkg --set-selections < installed-stuff && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade"
[05:09] <boris_> fuckin ireland it is great
[05:09] <contrast83> elite101: you don't have w32codecs?
[05:09] <ripcrd> contrast83: alright, I ran that command.  gonna reboot and see what happens.  I saved the line in a text file in the /etc/X11 directory.
[05:09] <contrast83> ripcrd: don't reboot
[05:09] <hitmanWilly> elite101: it depends, plus you need libdvdcss2 in either case
[05:09] <ripcrd> contrast83: why?
[05:09] <contrast83> ripcrd: rebooting is for windows and installing new hardware. ;-)
[05:10] <bonesss> contrast83: i'll do it... but when, i don't know ;D
[05:10] <contrast83> ripcrd: log out, then Alt+E. that's all you need to do.
[05:10] <hitmanWilly> or a kernel update :)
[05:10] <`Xera`> When I try and add mp3 support to amaroK it just freezes.. :/
[05:10] <contrast83> heh, yeah
[05:10] <bonesss> what do u think about easy ubuntu?
[05:10] <hitmanWilly> `Xera`: try suso apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[05:10] <ripcrd> I want to know that I'll come up in right resolution.  I have to shut this PC down to get to my other one attached to the KVM.  But that is another problem.  I want my kids to be able to boot this and be in the right mode.
[05:11] <BluesKaj> `Xera`: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[05:11] <hitmanWilly> bonesss: never tried it, so I don't know
[05:11] <contrast83> bonesss: i'm working on a script that automates a bunch of stuff, i'm trying to compete with Automatix. want to be a tester? :-D
[05:12] <`Xera`> thanks, worked :)
[05:12] <bonesss> contrast83: ok, but if it crash my system, i'm gonna furious =)
[05:12] <hitmanWilly> contrast83: a bunch of apt-get cmds, and maybe some sed'ing of sources.list, right?
[05:13] <contrast83> bonesss: you give up the right to get mad at the developer when you make yourself a tester :-P
[05:13] <hitmanWilly> lol
[05:13] <contrast83> hitmanWilly: it just replaces sources.list, i haven't figured out sed yet
[05:13] <bonesss> iauehiauheiae
[05:13] <contrast83> i'm still just a script-kiddie. :-\
[05:14] <hitmanWilly> contrast83: yeah, sed can be a pain, if you want i can take a look at it and clean it up some, maybe :)
[05:14] <contrast83> hitmanWilly: the biggest thing i'm trying to do right now is make it so it will exit automatically if it's not run as root. i figured that should be easy, but i'm having issues with it
[05:15] <contrast83> hitmanWilly: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32437/ -- that's just testing for non-root exit.
[05:16] <hitmanWilly> contrast83: the way id do it is just try a simple root only cmd, like copying a file in etc or something, and exiting if it returns a false
[05:16] <contrast83> hitmanWilly: someone else suggested that, but that just seems dirty. i've seen it done this way before, i'm just not sure why it's not working for me.
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> contrast83: or, have it try to backup sources.list and dumping if it returns an error
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> contrast83: which is something you'd want it to do anyway, imho :)
[05:18] <solarwaver> is anyone knows what to do if u forgot your password?
[05:18] <contrast83> true
[05:18] <contrast83> solarwaver: kick yourself in the head until it comes to you. :-)
[05:18] <contrast83> sorry, couldn't resist that.
[05:19] <hitmanWilly> contrast83: actually, try swapping #!/bin/sh to #!/bin/bash, and you need export cmds on setting env variables, IIRC
[05:19] <solarwaver> ok but u know what to do excpet format?
[05:20] <contrast83> export commands?
[05:20] <contrast83> sorry, i'm still pretty new at this.
[05:20] <hitmanWilly> contrast83: as in export ROOT_UID=0
[05:20] <contrast83> solarwaver: sorry, not too sure. i'd google around for it. i'm pretty sure there is a way to get past it though
[05:21] <contrast83> hitmanWilly: would you mind re-pasting what it should look like?
[05:22] <hitmanWilly> contrast83: already ahead of you :)
[05:22] <contrast83> hehe, thanks
[05:24] <contrast83> solarwaver: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3085111
[05:27] <hitmanWilly> contrast83: gimme one more sec, breaking out the bash manual for exact syntax here :)
[05:28] <contrast83> hitmanWilly: greatly appreciated :-)
[05:30] <bonesss> i'm leaving
[05:30] <bonesss> good bye
[05:40] <hitmanWilly> contrast83: ok, was being stupid...here ya go as to how i'd do it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32445/
[05:40] <hitmanWilly> contrast83: you need spaces before and after the []  both
[05:41] <ripcrd> contrast83: that fixed it.  all better now
[05:41] <ripcrd> thanks
[05:41] <hitmanWilly> contrast83: sorry, add an exit cmd after the not root cmd
[05:41] <DYINGOFROBBERY> nice psycho name hitman
[05:41] <hitmanWilly> :)
[05:41] <contrast83> ripcrd: i forgot what the problem was, but glad i could help. :-)
[05:42] <ripcrd> the nVidia driver reconfigure
[05:42] <ripcrd> later
[05:43] <contrast83> thanks, hitmanWilly
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> contrast83: hope that helps :)
[05:44] <contrast83> it does, thanks a lot :-)
[05:45] <hitmanWilly> contrast83: and see, I shrunk down the lines of code needed to implement it :)
[05:45] <contrast83> yeah. that's always nice
[05:46] <hitmanWilly> contrast83: you may need to use bash for that though, not sure how much of that dash supports
[05:46] <contrast83> so in the real implementation of that, i would put all the commands i want the script to run where - echo "Congratulations. You are root." - is, right?
[05:46] <hitmanWilly> contrast83: or call a function withthem in it
[05:47] <hitmanWilly> contrast83: or you could just skip the else part and put them all after the fi
[05:49] <hitmanWilly> contrast83: also, that exit should probably be exit 1, indicating a failure to run
[05:49] <hitmanWilly> contrast83: in case you want to string it together with other shell cmds
[05:50] <contrast83> cool, i'll keep that stuff in mind
[05:50] <contrast83> well i gotta get going. thanks again, hitmanWilly. peace
[05:50] <hitmanWilly> contrast83: exit by default returns a zero, indicating success. any non-zero value indicates a failure
[05:51] <hitmanWilly> contrast83: its also nice to keep in mind for error handling later on ie exit 1 might be one error while exit 2 might be another, etc
[05:51] <Linux_Galore> new version of Ghostscript is out and now its GPLv2 http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2919
[05:53] <draik> I'm trying to install vmware server, but it can't uninstall vmware player
[05:53] <draik> Any ideas?
[05:54] <solarwaver> is anyone knows how i install synaptic
[05:54] <draik> solarwaver: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[05:54] <Dr_willis> same as ya install anything else. :)
[05:55] <solarwaver> thanx draik as for vmware i dont sudest to install it it bring down to half the speed of the pc.
[05:56] <draik> solarwaver: I'm trying to run windows because a friend of mine wants to leave vista for Ubuntu, but still requires OneNote from m$.
[05:57] <solarwaver> i have use vmware but from win it sucks it turns your pc's speed down
[05:58] <Dr_willis> cant say that ive noticved that problem.
[05:58] <Dr_willis> but i dont use it much under windows. Just to test out livecd's
[05:58] <hitmanWilly> solarwaver: well, naturally it will slow it down some considering you're running two OS's, plus one of them is MS
[05:58] <solarwaver> if you make the virtual drive believe me you will see it definetly
[05:59] <Dr_willis> 'make the virtual drive....' Huh...
[05:59] <Dr_willis> ok. whatever. :)
[05:59] <solarwaver> lol exacly 'ms'
[05:59] <Dr_willis> it helps to have lots-o-ram(tm)
[05:59] <solarwaver> i dont know what pc u have but in mine it do that
[06:00] <solarwaver> i have 1gb
[06:00] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis: its a trick to make vm images without the server, use a blank image and install everything inside of vmware
[06:00] <Dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  i just use vmware server. :)
[06:00] <Dr_willis> I cant say that ive4 ever used vmwareplayer.
[06:00] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis: some of us are poor :P
[06:00] <Dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  ugh.. you do realize that vmware is a free download?  they have a free version.
[06:01] <Dr_willis> Actually i got some extra repos set up where its even in my  packages. :)
[06:01] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis: the server? wow, ive been out of it for a while...
[06:01] <Dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  a LONG while. :)
[06:01] <Dr_willis> its been free for like over a year.
[06:01] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis: well, i haven't used it in over a year, so there ya go :P
[06:02] <Dr_willis> You do have to give them an email address to get a serial # (free) and it dont even need to be a real email address
[06:02] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis: this_is_fake@gmail.com :)
[06:02] <Dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  i use bgates@msn.com
[06:02] <Dr_willis> ;)
[06:02] <hitmanWilly> lol, that's a good one :)
[06:02] <draik> My system is 3GB with 3.2GHz. I have 4GB of RAM, but 32-bits only read up to 3GB
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> draik: its a problem with 32 bit OS's
[06:03] <draik> hitmanWilly: Yeah. I didn't know that until recently
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> draik: all of them, the processor doesn't have the addressing space for it or something like that
[06:04] <draik> How do I install a *.tar file?
[06:04] <Dr_willis> depends on whats IN the tar file
[06:04] <hitmanWilly> draik: you don't, its like a zip
[06:04] <Dr_willis> !source
[06:04] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[06:04] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. bad factoid..
[06:04] <Dr_willis> !tar
[06:04] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[06:05] <hitmanWilly> draik: tar -xvf to extract it (assuming its just a straight .tar file)
[06:05] <draik> hitmanWilly: It is. It's VMware Workstation
[06:06] <hitmanWilly> draik: that's in the repos, btw :)
[06:06] <Dr_willis> Yea. :)
[06:06] <Dr_willis> !vmware
[06:06] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[06:06] <draik> Seems that my original install went ape crap on me since the attempted removal of vmware player
[06:07] <hitmanWilly> draik: oh, i think I remember that...
[06:07] <draik> Really? I didn't find it with "apt-cache search workstation"
[06:07] <hitmanWilly> draik: its under vmware-player
[06:07] <draik> cp: cannot stat `/usr/lib/vmware-player/share/locations.dist': No such file or directory
[06:08] <hitmanWilly> ?
[06:08] <draik> sudo apt-get install vmware-player gave me that error
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis: this is more your turf here :)
[06:09] <draik> http://pastebin.ca/645099
[06:10] <Dr_willis> i use vmeare server.. ive never used vmware player
[06:10] <Dr_willis> I woul dhave to say apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, and then try apt-get install vmware-player
[06:10] <draik> Dr_willis: That's just it. I can't remove/install vmware-player
[06:10] <holycow> same thing, less features
[06:10] <Dr_willis> ive never installed it.. so cant help ya much there. perhaps the --force or -f options to apt-get will do it.
[06:11] <josef> guys i need a good wifimanager because i have alot of wifinetwork with wep and other securities any suggestion for good program
[06:11] <draik> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install vmware-player
[06:11] <draik> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[06:11] <hitmanWilly> draik: maybe sudo apt-get -f install?
[06:12] <draik> hitmanWilly: Same error as in pastebin
[06:12] <draik> Can I manually remove vmware?
[06:13] <Dr_willis> could try aptittude remove vmware-player I guess...
[06:17] <draik> Says I have aptitude, but I don't see it anywhere
[06:18] <draik> I can't even install the server because it says that there is an issue with player
[06:18] <anticitizen1> Hi, its my first hour using KUBUNTU (just installed) i've tried to play some mp3s with AMAROK but it says that theres not support for mp3s...
[06:18] <draik> Even to have the GUI remove the player
[06:19] <anticitizen1> What i Have to do?
[06:19] <draik> anticitizen1: sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[06:19] <epsilom> for when http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php ?
[06:20] <epsilom> in feisty
[06:21] <onesandzeros> hello everyone.  After building a new kernel (from source, manually), do I need to use mkinitrd or mkinitramfs?
[06:23] <draik> Any clues Dr_willis
[06:23] <anticitizen1> Thanks, ive just runed "sudo apt-get install w32codecs" in a terminal but it shows that w32codecs are avaible
[06:24] <anticitizen1> *** ARE NOT avaible
[06:24] <draik> !source-o-matic | anticitizen1
[06:24] <ubotu> anticitizen1: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:24] <epsilom> anticitizen1: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[06:27] <anticitizen1> epsilon Thank you so much, it works now and rocks!
[06:28] <draik> !virtualizers
[06:28] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[06:31] <Dr_willis> aptitude is a console/text command
[06:37] <dsmith_> how can I conf. konq to use tbird?
[06:37] <dsmith_> instead of kmail
[06:37] <hitmanWilly> dsmith_: default apps
[06:38] <dsmith_> ok thanks...
[06:38] <dsmith_> I thought I changed that sometime ago
[06:39] <dsmith_> ..emailing an image from konq
[06:42] <ardchoille> !flash
[06:42] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[06:42] <gandhii> how do I change the permission of a directory so that I can access it without sudo?
[06:43] <Biovore> gandhii: use chmod
[06:43] <Biovore> gandhii: google on it for detail info..
[06:43] <gandhii> thnx
[06:44] <elite101> hey is there a tempature reader for my CPU? i have Ktemp but it doesn show the actuall temp?
[06:45] <hitmanWilly> elite101: not sure, mine's all done via hardware
[06:45] <elite101> how?
[06:46] <Biovore> elite101: yeah.. its very board specific stuff.. some boards it won't work on..
[06:46] <elite101> yes my board supports temp its an asus
[06:46] <hitmanWilly> elite101: a thermometer lead between the cpu and heatsink :)
[06:46] <elite101> yeah there is a diode or something
[06:46] <elite101> i can read it in the bios
[06:46] <matux> k
[06:47] <elite101> but i wanna see if it can be red here* in kubuntu
[06:47] <goodguy___> hello
[06:47] <elite101> mine has a diode it says in the bios thoes are more specific than the one's u connect to the MOBO and then the CPU
[06:48] <elite101> lol its reading 50c
[06:48] <Jebenexer> I'm having trouble with konqueror connecting to the internet, can anyone help me?
[06:48] <elite101> DHCP set to auto?
[06:49] <Jebenexer> I hav eto run it manually
[06:50] <elite101> ohh well im not no expert on kubuntu u my as well ask someone else sorry thou good luck on getting it fixed ;)
[06:50] <draik> hitmanWilly: It's GONE
[06:50] <hitmanWilly> draik: ? vmware?
[06:50] <draik> Yup
[06:51] <hitmanWilly> draik: you uninstalled it?
[06:51] <draik> hitmanWilly: Yeah. Manually
[06:51] <hitmanWilly> draik: ok, so you want it back or are you good?
[06:51] <hitmanWilly> Jebenexer: do you go through a proxy?
[06:52] <draik> I want something that will let me play the VMX file from easyVMX.com
[06:52] <Jebenexer> nope
[06:52] <Jebenexer> firefox works no problems, but konqueror won't work
[06:52] <hitmanWilly> Jebenexer: and you said you have to run dhcp manually?
[06:52] <Jebenexer> yes
[06:52] <draik> Dr_willis: So you suggest server?
[06:52] <hitmanWilly> hmmm, it should be set up to run at startup
[06:53] <Jebenexer> I use ndiswrapper for my wireless and I didn't set up any auto settings for dhcp
[06:53] <hitmanWilly> ahh, the plot thickens :)
[06:53] <Dr_willis> ive never used player.. i always use vmware server... so :) isent that answer enough..
[06:53] <Dr_willis> heh
[06:53] <draik> Good enough for me
[06:53] <Dr_willis> i mainly use vmware to test out LiveCD's
[06:53] <Jebenexer> it has happened several times on seperate computers using kubuntu
[06:54] <Jebenexer> konqueror works for a few days then stops
[06:54] <Jebenexer> I don't know if its conflicting with something, and I don't know how to track the problem
[06:55] <hitmanWilly> Jebenexer: ok, does it just slow way down opening web pages, or does it dump out 404 errors?
[06:55] <Jebenexer> 404
[06:55] <Jebenexer> localhost homepage works
[06:56] <Jebenexer> all inet traffic coes 404
[06:56] <hitmanWilly> Jebenexer: ndiswrapper can be tricky sometimes, id look into that
[06:56] <Jebenexer> goes*
[06:56] <Jebenexer> I'll try the real module and see if it fixes it, but ubuntu blacklisted it cause it causes kernel freezing
[06:57] <hitmanWilly> anyway, i have to work tommorrow, so i'll see y'all later
[06:57] <Jebenexer> cya, thx for tryin
[07:07] <draik> Anyone here using VMware-server?
[07:07] <holycow> i do
[07:09] <draik> Biovore: So did I, but I just needed something simple.
[07:09] <draik> Biovore:
[07:09] <draik> No bootable CD, floppy or hard disk was detected.
[07:09] <draik> To install an operating system, insert a bootable CD or floppy and restart the virtual machine by clicking the Reset button.
[07:09] <draik> Do I need an OS installed by me?
[07:10] <holycow> something simple?
[07:10] <holycow> wtf are you talking about
[07:10] <holycow> server isn't simple and its not the same as workstation
[07:10] <Biovore> draik: ussualy a new vm dosn't have anything on it..
[07:11] <holycow> the simplest of all is workstation ... but then its designed for developers to run test scenarios
[07:11] <Biovore> well player is the simplest
[07:11] <holycow> okay right, thats true
[07:11] <draik> Biovore: Oh. I guess I have to go find myself WinXP then
[07:11] <Biovore> thats what I do..
[07:11] <Biovore> unless you got a vm you want to use..
[07:12] <holycow> draik: do you even know what vmware does tho?
[07:12] <holycow> looking at your post above, it seems that you might be misunderstanding what vmware is used for
[07:12] <draik> holycow: "emulator" of another OS within Kubuntu
[07:12] <holycow> what did you expect it to do?
[07:12] <holycow> ah wtf?
[07:12] <holycow> dude no
[07:12] <holycow> stopright there
[07:12] <holycow> stop speaking
[07:12] <draik> ...?
[07:12] <holycow> and stop thinking
[07:12] <holycow> its not an emulator of anything
[07:12] <holycow> its a virtualization envorinment
[07:12] <holycow> it LETS YOU INSTALL A GUEST OS OF YOUR CHOICE
[07:13] <holycow> of your choice being something on a list of what they support
[07:13] <Biovore> it simulates a PC in software and you can install software on that "soft" computer..
[07:13] <holycow> so no, it doesn't do any magic "EMULATION"  you startup vmware workstaiton, you put in your windows cd and install it
[07:13] <holycow> just like you would on a computer
[07:13] <Biovore> Also can see virtualbox,xen,qemu as alternitives..
[07:13] <holycow> for that matter you can install another linux or whatever else they support
[07:14] <holycow> it don't emulate nada bro :)
[07:14] <holycow> just runs whatever you decide to install on it
[07:14] <holycow> its purpose is to say let you run a winxp install on ubuntu and do testing
[07:14] <Biovore> Its basicly a computer running on your computer..
[07:14] <holycow> or to run say 12 oses side by side and do network testing and interaction
[07:14] <holycow> and on and on
[07:14] <holycow> does any of that help you understand what vmware does?
[07:14] <holycow> questions?
[07:15] <holycow> and yeah everything Biovore said is correct
[07:16] <holycow> lots of alternatives to vmware  a few with very different implementations
[07:16] <draik> Sorry, I was installing winxp corp
[07:16] <holycow> allright so whats the problem, it cant find the cd?
[07:16] <holycow> check of 'use emulation' or something in one of the menus underneath where it shows you the mount point for the cdrom device
[07:16] <Biovore> you can have vmware use a ISO on your disk.. Makes installing faster..
[07:16] <draik> holycow: Yeah. But I fixed that issue
[07:17] <holycow> allright, any other questions?
[07:17] <draik> None that I can think of right now. Thanks for the clarification holycow
[07:17] <holycow> no problem :)
[07:17] <draik> Biovore: Thank you for your input
[07:18] <draik> holycow: Is there a limit to how many OS's can be "served" by the Server?
[07:19] <holycow> just the capacity of your hardware
[07:19] <draik> Kew
[07:19] <holycow> typically you run out of ram extremely quickly tho
[07:19] <holycow> ESPECIALLY if you are running that piece of crap os from redmond
[07:23] <draik> I figured as much
[07:47] <elite101> gotta goooo
[07:47] <elite101> tooo bedd byeeee
[07:50] <level1__> Hi, how can I download particular files from ndiswrapper?
[07:50] <jetsaredim> i see that the kde4base-dev build completed, but for some reason apt-cache doesn't show the 3.92 packages
[07:50] <level1__> I mean the repositories
[07:50] <level1__> Hi, how can I download particular packages from the repositories?
[07:51] <level1__> Like, I need the .deb files.  Just the .deb files.
[07:51] <jetsaredim> level1__: look on packages.ubuntu.com and search for the package you're looking for on the release you are running
[07:52] <jetsaredim> or you can just use adept_manager
[07:53] <level1__> jetsaredim: why is ndiswrapper not a package?
[07:55] <level1__> why don't distros come with the essential build tools?  Why not just not package a terminal, eh?  People won't need it, right?
[07:55] <jetsaredim> um
[07:56] <jetsaredim> i think what you want is ndiswrapper-utils
[07:56] <level1__> jetsaredim: does that actually contain the code for ndiswrapper?
[07:56] <level1__> like, does it actually have what I need to do ndiswrapper?
[07:56] <jetsaredim> yea
[07:57] <jetsaredim> http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/misc/ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[07:59] <level1__> _jetsaredim: is this on the liveCD?
[08:13] <jbaerbock> ok i got a broken package problem :( anyone wanna help?
[08:21] <noaXess> good morning..
[08:22] <Lynoure> noaXess: morning.
[08:23] <noaXess> my wlan card won't work at startup, everytime i need to manualy disable, enable it, cause the wlan switch is off.. where can i fix this, that on startup my wlan0 comes automatically up? i use ndiswrapper with a intel wlan card..
[08:24] <Lynoure> noaXess: What is the type of the card, specificly? Or rather, did you need ndiswrapper?
[08:26] <noaXess> Lynoure: jep i need ndiswrapper cause its a Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN
[08:27] <noaXess> the driver work, the card work after i manually disable and enable it.. cause the txpower if off on boot..
[08:29] <noaXess> i just read this and it works: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Intel_4965_AGN_WiFi_Driver/Fiesty?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[08:29] <Lynoure> noaXess: I try not to touch ndiswrapper, so I don't know about it much. I wonder if  iwlwifi is usable yet
[08:30] <noaXess> Lynoure: there is another workaround.. http://kuscsik.blogspot.com/2007/06/how-to-install-intel-4965-wireless.html
[08:31] <Lynoure> noaXess: and your ndiswrapper is in your /etc/modules ?
[08:31] <noaXess> aha.. not really.. hm..
[08:32] <Lynoure> noaXess: kinda could help :)
[08:32] <noaXess> hm...
[08:33] <Lynoure> Or at least worth a try.
[08:33] <noaXess> Lynoure: but, on fresh boot i can see that ndiswrapper is loaded with lsmod | grep ndis
[08:34] <noaXess> ??
[08:34] <noaXess> is there another position to load modules?
[08:34] <noaXess> or will the modul load to late?
[08:35] <Lynoure> noaXess: I have not had my breakfast yet, so I'm not in for anything more that quick hints :)
[08:35] <noaXess> ok :)
[08:35] <noaXess> the enjoy it well ;)
[08:39] <Lynoure> noaXess: thanks :)
[08:40] <Lynoure> noaXess: now, if you try that and it does not help, maybe we can come up with something else.
[08:41] <noaXess> jep  just try it now..
[08:43] <level1> Hi, how do I know if a particular wireless card has some sort of linux driver before I go into a whole ndiswrapper mess
[08:43] <level1> its a linksys usb card, I can give the model number
[08:44] <level1> WUSB54GSC
[08:45] <Lynoure> level1: usually people just google for card model and linux, no hits = usually no luck
[08:46] <Lynoure> level1: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2296818
[08:54] <Lynoure> noaXess: How did it go?
[08:54] <level1> how much does one have to pay to get a wireless card that works well in linux?
[08:54] <level1> 100$?  200$?
[08:55] <Lynoure> level1: not much
[08:55] <Lynoure> level1: my old orinoco did, it's there without any use
[08:55] <Lynoure> (I think)
[08:55] <Lynoure> my current intel card works well enough.
[08:55] <level1> Lynoure: with my luck, every card that works for everyone else will never work for me
[08:56] <holycow> same as for windows
[08:56] <Lynoure> level1: now, now, no reason for such pessimism. Would you want me to check if I still have the card? It would take a pcmci slot, though
[08:56] <holycow> all you do is research if its supported by whatever kernel you plan on running
[09:01] <level1> holycow: how come, in all the times I've asked linux users on irc and elsewhere what wireless cards work well, the only answer I've ever gotton is atheros, and that doesn't help me beacuse I have no clue what brand that is
[09:01] <holycow> the super cool thing mostly is you just plug this crap in and it just works
[09:01] <holycow> its amazing
[09:01] <level1> holycow: except if your level1
[09:01] <holycow> well atheros is the chipset on the card
[09:01] <holycow> many brands use it
[09:01] <holycow> you would say research linkys atheros, they must have some models
[09:01] <holycow> i think netgear also uses atheros on some models
[09:01] <holycow> level1, lol well i've been thinking of jus tputtin gup a goddamned store just to sell KNONW WORKING models of all this crap
[09:01] <underdog5004> level1, orinoco is awesome...
[09:01] <holycow> i totally know what tyou are dealing with
[09:01] <underdog5004> ummm, also, ralink is a good one...I've got the rt2500 in my desktop box
[09:01] <underdog5004> Avoid Broadcom...
[09:01] <Lynoure> underdog5004: I thought so too, but I'd be willing to give it to someone who really needs one...
[09:01] <underdog5004> anything with prizm2 chipsets, I think
[09:01] <underdog5004> level1, where do you live? I'll send you my ralink card...I've got my desktop wired up right now anyway...
[09:01] <level1> underdog5004: at leas there's drivers for broadcom, with this dump linksys card, I have to set up ndiswrapper
[09:01] <underdog5004> level1, not for the card in my gfs lappy...ndiswrapper all the way...what a pima!
[09:01] <level1> underdog5004: chicago
[09:01] <level1> ugh
[09:01] <underdog5004> ok, if you wanna pay for shipping, I'll send it to you...I live in northern california.
[09:01] <level1> well, I got ndis set up (i  think)
[09:01] <underdog5004> Won't be too much...
[09:01] <underdog5004> ok, cool
[09:01] <level1> I got the driver installed... it doesn't show up in ndisgtk's list, but if I try to install it agoin, it says "already installed"... worst interface ever
[09:02] <underdog5004> no doubt
[09:02] <level1> anyway, I still don't seem to have wireless, but apparently theres some bs about low power usb devices
[09:02] <underdog5004> I think it goes ndiswrapper -i $drivername, ndiswrapper -l to make sure it's in, then ndiswrapper -m to modularize it...
[09:02] <underdog5004> It's about midnight here...I'm a little spacey, so i could be wrong
[09:04] <underdog5004> anyway, I'm going to go smoke my pipe...do you want the card or no? if so, I'm at computingsolutionsbiz@gmail.com
[09:06] <holycow> HOWS THAT FOR TECH SUPPORT?
[09:06] <holycow> booya!
[09:06] <holycow> lol
[09:06] <holycow> right on underdog5004 :)
[09:06] <holycow> sucking redmond!
[09:06] <underdog5004> ha ha ha
[09:06] <underdog5004> yeah...
[09:07] <underdog5004> I got this cool bamboo pipe at the swap meet, so I'm going to go enjoy some pipe tobacco...can't smoke too much or it'll take the first few layers off your tongue, lol
[09:07] <underdog5004> adios for tonight
[09:07] <underdog5004> ermm...this morning
[09:07] <holycow> heh
[09:07] <holycow> later
[09:07] <level1> how is it possible that a pci device could not show up on lspci
[09:07] <holycow> nice work on the support side
[09:08] <level1> I mean, something has to show up, right?
[09:08] <holycow> if it doesn't work, no
[09:08] <Lynoure> level1: should, unless it is broken or disconnected
[09:08] <level1> well, its in there pretty tight, so does that mean the the device itself is just busted?
[09:08] <noaXess> Lynoure: not really as i want..
[09:09] <noaXess> the same.. disable/enable the card and it work..
[09:09] <noaXess> Lynoure: was for you
[09:09] <holycow> possibly, hard to tell without diagnostic tools specific to that board
[09:09] <level1> holycow: theres nothing command line we can run?
[09:10] <holycow> well probably there is  but usually its cheaper to just go buy a replacement
[09:10] <holycow> so i've never learned to see if there was a way to 'ping' it so to speak
[09:10] <level1> holycow: I already spent 70$ on a replacement that doesn't work either
[09:10] <holycow> :/ ouch
[09:10] <holycow> what card?
[09:11] <level1> its a linksys card
[09:11] <holycow> if both don't show up via lspci chances are its not the cards
[09:11] <holycow> what model?is this a wireless card?
[09:11] <level1> WUSB54GSC
[09:11] <holycow> level1 that dude offered to send you one that works
[09:11] <holycow> i would take him up on that
[09:11] <Lynoure> noaXess: hmm, anything in the logs?
[09:11] <level1> holycow: the replacement card is usb
[09:11] <level1> holycow: yeah, I'm in such a pessimistic mood right now
[09:12] <holycow> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=487092
[09:12] <holycow> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2296818
[09:12] <level1> I just want it working this weekend, not a week from now.  If I wanted it to work a week from now I would have ordered from newegg already
[09:13] <holycow> i wish i was a hardware guru to run you through this
[09:13] <holycow> i swear i just buy stuff i know works and plug it in
[09:13] <holycow> i've only once bought 4 mobos that i couldnt use in dapper because the nvidia chipset was too new
[09:13] <holycow> but my mistake as i made the purchase in a rush
[09:15] <Necko45> Hi all
[09:15] <_da> hey
[09:16] <Necko45> can u help me ?
[09:17] <level1> holycow: what was that guy's email again?
[09:17] <Lynoure> Necko45: only if you tell us what you need help with :)
[09:18] <level1> I'm going to have 20 different cards by the time this is over
[09:18] <level1> holycow you there?
[09:18] <Lynoure> level1: just take the card underdog5004 is offering you... that will keep the number low.
[09:18] <Necko45> im new at this , and i cant install packages using Package management
[09:19] <level1> Lynoure: yeah, but I can't do it unless someone tells me what his email is... I lost the cache because I rebooted
[09:19] <level1> my mistake
[09:19] <Lynoure> level1: he is still on the channel: underdog5004
[09:19] <_da> computersolutionsbiz@gmail.com
[09:19] <level1> _da: thank you
[09:20] <Necko45> Lynoure: i try to install a program call Goodweather but i cant :(
[09:20] <_da> ok
[09:20] <Lynoure> Necko45: never heard of it...
[09:21] <tank71> How do I change the user name when I open up the terminal...so when I ssh to another server it doesnt use my defualt@blah-?
[09:22] <llutz> tank71: ssh user@host.bla
[09:22] <tank71> ahhh I see thanks
[09:22] <tank71> I probably should have thought of that my bad :P
[09:22] <Necko45> I want to install Emule for Linux
[09:22] <llutz> tank71: or ssh -l user  host.bla..
[09:22] <Necko45> Which is good ?
[09:23] <tank71> ok thanks
[09:23] <Necko45> Amule ?
[09:23] <level1> !nvidia
[09:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:23] <Lynoure> Necko45: but if you just want something for weather, Kweather is nice
[09:24] <Necko45> it appears at desk ?
[09:26] <Lynoure> Necko45: no, in the panel,  but if you want it on desk, try something for Superkaramba?
[09:36] <jasu> How can I activate Desktop Effects?
[09:36] <cb2> What is "host" when trying to set up Kmail?
[09:38] <jasu> I am using kbuntu feisty fawn and have installed the "desktop effects" thingie from the "add/remove programs"
[09:38] <jasu> now i am looking for a way to activate them
[09:42] <arun> um.. something weird is happening with my cd rom drive. kubuntu is not detecting any cds, but vmware/windows is detecting them. any ideas how i can fix this?
[09:42] <bilal> I have a home network with 3 windows and 1 linux (kubuntu). I can't seem to share files or access another shared directory. only thing I can do is see the available pc's on my network.
[09:44] <nomad111> everytime i log out or shutdown kubuntu my external screen indicates that refresh rate is out of range
[09:44] <nomad111> is there a way to resolve this issue
[09:44] <nomad111> my os runs normally at my external screen's native resolution
[09:44] <nomad111> only when i exit (log out or shutdown) does it screw up
[09:46] <Kemedes> arun: Did you try mounting it with a cd in the drive?
[09:46] <bilal> I have a home network with 3 windows and 1 linux (kubuntu). I can't seem to share files or access another shared directory. only thing I can do is see the available pc's on my network.
[09:47] <arun> Kemedes: yes of course
[09:47] <Prophez1> hi
[09:47] <Kemedes> bilal: Did you apt-get samba?
[09:48] <Prophez1> where can i find my network sharing with windows maps?
[09:48] <bilal> yes
[09:49] <bilal> i can see all directories but when double click the directory it says the directory is not found. also it doesnt display a text file i have placed in samba
[09:51] <vomitbreatheradi> do i get some neat prizes if i register my name?
[09:52] <arun> any ideas why kubuntu won't detect that i've entered a cd, but vmware/windows detects it properly
[09:53] <JohnFlux> arun: maybe at some point you modified /etc/fstab?
[09:53] <Maxdamantus> arun, sometimes VMWare takes over your hardware.
[09:53] <Maxdamantus> So that automount doesn't work.
[09:53] <arun> Maxdamantus: so i should try again after closing vmware?
[09:53] <Maxdamantus> Try "sudo mount /media/cdrom"
[09:54] <JohnFlux> Maxdamantus:  hum
[09:54] <JohnFlux> no
[09:54] <JohnFlux> probably better to first try with pmount
[09:54] <vomabreatheradio> i was able to mount something
[09:54] <Maxdamantus> Or add a "0" after that cdrom.
[09:54] <JohnFlux> pmount /dev/cdrom      as a normal user
[09:54] <JohnFlux> and see if that fails
[09:55] <JohnFlux> arun: ^^
[09:55] <arun> Connected
[09:55] <arun> ah sorry
[09:55] <arun> Error: device /dev/cdrom0/ does not exist
[09:55] <arun> the cd icon shows in konqueror, but if i click it, it doesn't show any files
[09:55] <jasu> How can I activate the desktop effects in kbuntu? (cube etc)
[09:55] <JohnFlux> arun: it tells you /dev/cdrom0  does not exist if you type:   pmount /dev/cdrom  ?
[09:56] <tank71> how would I go about getting a C compiler?
[09:56] <tank71> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[09:56] <JohnFlux> tank71: apt-get install gcc
[09:56] <Maxdamantus> jasu, that's Beryl. :P
[09:56] <Maxdamantus> sudo apt-get intstall beryl emerald
[09:56] <JohnFlux> !beryl | jasu
[09:56] <ubotu> jasu: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:56] <vomabreatheradio> no one ever likes my answers or even likes to hear me talk
[09:56] <tank71> thanks JohnFlux
[09:56] <arun> JohnFlux: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/32461/
[09:57] <JohnFlux> vomabreatheradio: you haven't given an answer
[09:57] <JohnFlux> vomabreatheradio: you joined the channel and said one random thing
[09:57] <jasu> i have already downloaded "Desktop effects" by "Add/Remove Programs"
[09:57] <jasu> but how can I enable them?
[09:58] <vomabreatheradio> its not realy random, from experiance, im plugging in the fact that internet junkies hate to hear me talk
[09:58] <JohnFlux> arun: it's already mounted
[09:58] <arun> JohnFlux: i know it is, but why wont it show me any files
[09:58] <JohnFlux> arun: do:  pumount /media/cdrom0
[09:58] <jasu> or was that the wrong package?
[09:58] <arun> JohnFlux: i did, it went to the next $
[09:59] <tank71> ok now what does this mean "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[09:59] <JohnFlux> arun: okay now try pmount /dev/cdrom   again
[09:59] <JohnFlux> arun: it should go to the next $   again
[10:00] <arun> it doesnt
[10:00] <arun> there's some error
[10:00] <JohnFlux> arun: same error?
[10:00] <JohnFlux> arun: what's the last line of the error
[10:00] <vomabreatheradio> whats the error?
[10:00] <arun> JohnFlux: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/32462/
[10:00] <arun> new error
[10:01] <noaXess> my wlan card run with ndiswrapper ok, but not on boot.. i need to manually disable/enable it in the system settings.. any idea to run it auto on boot?
[10:01] <JohnFlux> arun: hmmm
[10:01] <arun> JohnFlux: it was just working 10 mins ago
[10:01] <JohnFlux> :/
[10:01] <noaXess> !ndiswrapper
[10:01] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:02] <JohnFlux> arun: does it work with other cds?
[10:02] <arun> JohnFlux: i think it stopped working after i opened vmware. i'll try restarting x. brb
[10:02] <vomabreatheradio> i think admiral chicago has trouble playing pink checkers
[10:03] <vomabreatheradio> i think someone should investigate admiral chicago's scent
[10:03] <vomabreatheradio> i think admiral chicago blew up his toilet instead of cleaning it
[10:05] <underdog5004> level1__, my email is computingsolutionsbiz@gmail.com
[10:05] <arun> JohnFlux: still getting the same error
[10:05] <arun> any ideas
[10:06] <JohnFlux> arun: googling, it seems that for most people it just fixed itself after rebooting :(
[10:06] <arun> i didnt reboot, i just restarted x
[10:06] <arun> should i reboot?
[10:07] <JohnFlux> I guess it's worth trying
[10:07] <arun> alright, i'll be back
[10:07] <JohnFlux> arun: you could do   dmesg | tail
[10:07] <arun> ?
[10:07] <JohnFlux> arun: and just see if there is anything interesting
[10:07] <JohnFlux> run:   dmesg | tail
[10:07] <Linux_Galore> ctrl alt backspace = restart X
[10:09] <arun> bunch of error messages
[10:09] <arun> i'll just reboot
[10:09] <arun> brb
[10:09] <vomabreatheradio> i think charl cant finish the job
[10:10] <tank71> anyone happen to know what
[10:10] <tank71> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[10:10] <tank71> See `config.log' for more details.
[10:10] <tank71> means
[10:10] <tank71> config.log doesnt tell me much..at all
[10:10] <vomabreatheradio> i think i want a refund
[10:11] <pag> tank71, do you have gcc installed?
[10:11] <jussi01> tank71: have you installed build-essential?
[10:11] <tank71> yes
[10:11] <tank71> no
[10:11] <jussi01> tank71: might help :)
[10:11] <tank71> how do I install build-essential?
[10:12] <jussi01> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:12] <vomabreatheradio> can i remember to be scared of tank instead of whining about my missing 35 computers?
[10:12] <tank71> your missing 35 computers?
[10:12] <vomabreatheradio> i want a refund!
[10:12] <vomabreatheradio> 33
[10:12] <tank71> 33 missing computers?
[10:12] <vomabreatheradio> broken i meant
[10:12] <tank71> ahh I see
[10:13] <vomabreatheradio> i like to scream at abuse
[10:13] <jussi01> tank71: did it work now?
[10:13] <vomabreatheradio> what a worthless talent
[10:13] <tank71> jussi01: would you happen to know how to install build-essential
[10:13] <jussi01> tank71: i gave you the command...
[10:13] <tank71> ah I see it
[10:13] <tank71> sorry..
[10:13] <jussi01> :)
[10:13] <tank71> my bad
[10:13] <jussi01>  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:14] <tank71> installing sec...
[10:14] <vomabreatheradio> i want to work for riri cos .net
[10:14] <vomabreatheradio> prove my soul or something
[10:15] <jussi01> !offtopic | vomabreatheradio
[10:15] <ubotu> vomabreatheradio: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[10:16] <arun> JohnFlux: works after rebooting
[10:16] <tank71> hey everything looks like its going alright thanks a lot jussi01 :P
[10:16] <arun> thanks for your help!
[10:16] <JohnFlux> arun: :)
[10:16] <jussi01> tank71: no probs :)
[10:19] <jasu> i have a logitech keyboard here
[10:19] <jasu> is there a way to get media keys running? especially tune up or down volume?
[10:20] <jasu> when i push the vol+ on my keyboard, there is a popup coming up, saying "volume" and the value changes to 10%
[10:20] <jasu> but it won't go further
[10:21] <arun> jasu: that happens to me as well, but i dont think that works with kubuntu
[10:21] <arun> the volume doesn't at least.. i can open the calculator with the media key though
[10:22] <jasu> also: why does it say my system is muted when i am listening to music? i mean it IS coming out of my speakers...
[10:23] <jussi01> jasu: you need to set the correct volume control in your mixer
[10:24] <jussi01> I think you will need pcm
[10:24] <jussi01> !shortcuts
[10:24] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[10:25] <tank71> anyone want to take a guess at what this means?
[10:25] <tank71> ircd.c: In function do_version_check:
[10:25] <tank71> ircd.c:872: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast
[10:25] <tank71> ircd.c:873: error: LIBCURL_VERSION undeclared (first use in this function)
[10:25] <jasu> jussi01: how can i do that?
[10:25] <pag> tank71, I'd like a hint: what are you trying to do?
[10:26] <jussi01> jasu: right click volume control, then select master channel
[10:26] <jussi01> jasu: then select pcm
[10:26] <jasu> jussi01: cool, thanks
[10:26] <tank71> uhh I'm trying to install unreal IRCd
[10:26] <tank71> just to mess around...
[10:26] <tank71> installed it before but on systems that were correctly setup lol
[10:27] <jasu> jussi01: Now my keys for vol+ and vol- are working :-)
[10:28] <jussi01> jasu: :)
[10:28] <jasu> is there a way to tell audacious to listen to my next track/previous and play/pause buttons on my keyboard?
[10:28] <tank71> pag are you still around?
[10:29] <andreasmas> i "lost"  konversation 's tool bar in kubuntu 7.04:( how can i "find" again ?
[10:29] <pag> tank71, yup. just don't know how you should proceed
[10:29] <pag> andreasmas, toolbar? remind me - what should it contain?
[10:29] <tank71> ya its cool...not exactly something easy for someone elese to know what went wrong lol
[10:30] <jussi01> andreasmas: settings -> toolbars?
[10:30] <andreasmas> settings ?
[10:30] <Karti> bilal: Can I suggest something with your Windows PC issues
[10:30] <jussi01> andreasmas: do you not have that?
[10:31] <jussi01> andreasmas: try pressing ctrl+m
[10:31] <andreasmas> thnks
[10:31] <andreasmas> :DDD
[10:31] <jussi01> heh
[10:31] <andreasmas> lol
[10:31] <andreasmas> thnks man :)
[10:31] <jussi01> no probs...
[10:32] <jasu> jussi01: do you have a clue why my vol+/vol- buttons work and my mute is not? when i press mute, i get a popup saying that it's muted, but the kmix icon does not change and the sound is not really muted
[10:33] <jussi01> jasu: not sure on that one, sorry
[10:33] <Karti> bilal: Ah well, ou may still read this....I use apt-get install smbfs AND apt-get install ntfs-3g to access my windows drive - hope that helps
[10:37] <jasu> why does my gcc does not find stlib and other standard libraries?
[10:37] <jasu> or do i have to install them manually?
[10:41] <noaXess> some ndiswrapper gurus here? my card allways need to disable/enable afeter reboot to come up..
[10:52] <knubbe> if i watch a movie with konqueror and then leave that page, konqueror always crashes. its been like that since 7.04. is there a workaround?
[10:52] <knubbe> if i watch a movie on a website with en embed movie that is
[10:53] <pag> knubbe, hmm.. which kde version are you running? 3.5.6 or 3.5.7 ?
[10:53] <knubbe> pag: 3.5.6
[10:53] <knubbe> pag: ill try upgrading.
[10:54] <pag> knubbe, you could.. not sure if that helps, but at least then you'll have newest and greatest :D
[10:57] <jasu> In system settings > mouse > "Cordless Desktop Pro LX 700" it says; "you have a logitech mouse connected and libusb was found at compile time, but it was not possible to access this mouse. This is probably caused by a permissions problem. You should consult the manual on how to fix this." --- ANY IDEAS?
[10:57] <sgt1> some of my screensavers don't work when the timer runs out but when i do a test they work fine. any suggestions
[10:58] <knubbe> pag: :-)
[11:01] <sgt1> ?
[11:04] <bjonnh> got a problem with software suspend (hibernation) on my acer aspire 3100. I got "Aug  3 02:43:44 jo-laptop kernel: [ 1722.428623]  swsusp: Not enough free memory"
[11:04] <bjonnh> ^^Hi
[11:05] <bjonnh> (sorry wrong window)
[11:10] <Karti> Hi all, anyone know about the server authentication settings, such as login or plain or could point me to a good site?
[11:13] <jury> hi all
[11:14] <pag> hey jury :)
[11:14] <jury> can anyone say me how i can see DJVU files
[11:14] <pag> jury, djview maybe?
[11:15] <combo> - if i have *.run file, how can i execute it ? :)
[11:15] <jury> i cant found any prog in repository for this format
[11:15] <pag> !info djview | jury
[11:15] <ubotu> jury: djview: Viewer for the DjVu image format. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.5.17-3ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 427 kB, installed size 1220 kB
[11:15] <jury> ok thanks
[11:15] <jury> i just new for ubuntu
[11:16] <pag> combo, chmod +x file.run  and  ./file.run  ?
[11:16] <jury> feel lamer a little
[11:16] <pag> !universe | jury
[11:16] <ubotu> jury: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:16] <combo> pag: thx :)
[11:16] <jury> thanks to you
[11:16] <pag> jury, and #ubuntu-ru  if you want to join Russian channel ;)
[11:17] <jury> :) than i will no english practics
[11:17] <combo> pag: btw. chmod +x [makes the file executable]  and what makes chmod a+x ??
[11:17] <combo> pag: and these command: chmod +x - make it with sudo, right ?
[11:17] <pag> combo, probably the same  (all+exec) but ie. u+x will add exec right only to user iirc
[11:18] <pag> combo, no need to sudo in chomod - you might need to run the .run with sudo though
[11:18] <combo> pag: ok, i see, THX
[11:29] <jury> !info
[11:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about info - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:30] <pag> jury, !info packagename gives information about certain package
[11:30] <jury> !info djview
[11:30] <ubotu> djview: Viewer for the DjVu image format. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.5.17-3ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 427 kB, installed size 1220 kB
[11:35] <nicolai_> What exactly is purging in relation to packages?
[11:35] <nicolai_> Removing all traces of the package?
[11:36] <zenum> hey, does anyone know if it's possible to have the kicker hidden in some desktops and not in others? I only want to display it one my main desktop as I use the other more full screen type applications
[11:36] <pag> nicolai_, system-level configfiles (not the ones in ~)
[11:38] <jury> thanks to pag , i found what i was search  i just add one more repository :)
[11:38] <pag> no problems :)
[11:39] <jury> it is so if you know where to dig :)
[11:42] <jury> nice, even appear in Kmenu
[11:50] <underdog5004> why does feisty see my ide drive as /dev/sda? in edgy it was /dev/hda...
[11:53] <pag> underdog5004, because of libsata
[11:54] <underdog5004> pag, could you explain a bit more in-depth?
[11:54] <pag> underdog5004, some kernel-thingy, which I don't really understand.
[11:55] <underdog5004> oh...that's pretty technical...lol
[11:56] <pag> underdog5004, I think that's the wikipage: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks  but I'm not 100% sure about that either
[11:57] <underdog5004> thanks for the link
[11:58] <adenicio> i need help with kopete
[11:59] <adenicio> the instant messenger thing
[11:59] <pag> adenicio, be more specific, please :)
[11:59] <pag> about the problem I mean.
[12:01] <dhq> suppose my mbr of my hardisk soent work what option do i have
[12:01] <dhq> doesnt*
[12:01] <adenicio> pang: im getting there.everytime i log on with kopete it log on my cusin name at the same time i want them to ba seperat not to gether.and does it have and option to show online people only?
[12:02] <adenicio> dhq:repare it whit your xp cd or linux cd
[12:02] <pag> adenicio, it'll show only those who are online if you press ctrl+u
[12:03] <dhq> adenicio, no my hardisk bootsector doesnt work
[12:03] <pag> adenicio, ctrl+g hides empty groups
[12:03] <pag> dhq, doesn't work at all? :O
[12:04] <dhq> pag, yes
[12:04] <Karti> any recommendations for pgp applications? gnupg? Many thanks
[12:04] <pag> !gpg | Karti
[12:04] <ubotu> Karti: gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[12:04] <Karti> pag: cheers
[12:05] <adenicio> dhq: u got only linux on your pc?
[12:05] <pag> dhq, there's a Super Grub disc, which can be used to boot the machine iirc..
[12:07] <[ifr0g] > What software do you guys use with your ipod ?
[12:07] <pag> [ifr0g] , though I don't have ipod, I've heard that both Amarok and gtkpod handle the job pretty well
[12:07] <pag> !ipod
[12:07] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[12:08] <[ifr0g] > pag, Will those Apps help me rip songs from the ipod ?
[12:09] <[ifr0g] > pag,thanks for that link.
[12:09] <pag> [ifr0g] , dunno.. Amarok might have that option, mut I'm not too sure  (never touched gtkpod myself, so no info about that)
[12:11] <[ifr0g] > pag, Alright, I will google.
[12:11] <pag> [ifr0g] , wouldn't plugging iPod in and testing be easier? :P
[12:12] <waylandbill> I've got an nvidia 7600 and it just started getting "unable to validate any modes, selecting default mode" which is putting me to 800x600. I've got no clue how to fix it.
[12:12] <adenicio> pag:i got prob with adept maneger when i trry to install a paquage and aply it give me an error there was an error commiting changes.possibly there was a prob downloading some packages or the commit would break packages
[12:13] <[ifr0g] > pag, :D.. well, i am going to get one. So just preparing my self.
[12:13] <pag> adenicio, try installing them with apt-get - it has more reasonable errormsg's
[12:14] <waylandbill> make that a 7900. :-)
[12:15] <dhq> pag, so even if the kubuntu is installed in my pc with out a boot loader with the super grub disk it will load
[12:16] <Karti> [ifr0g] : I used gtkpod with my wifes to test it and it worked fine
[12:17] <dhq> [ifr0g] , hi amarok has a lot of plugins check out
[12:17] <Karti> waylandbill: have you installed the nvidia driver and amended the etc/X11xorg.conf from nv to nvidia?
[12:18] <[ifr0g] > dhq,:) fb ?
[12:18] <[ifr0g] > dhq, where were you all these days ?
[12:18] <Karti> oops etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:18] <waylandbill> Karti: yes. I've done both of those.
[12:19] <Karti> and your nvidia-glx (the new one not legacy)
[12:20] <jury> i can't start djview :( it
[12:20] <Karti> waylandbill: I used the details from Ubuntu Hack book, and it recommends that you do the following:
[12:20] <jury> it's not runing :(
[12:20] <adenicio> pag: do u know how i get permision to transfer files from linux to windows(all is on one pc win and unix)
[12:20] <adenicio> !kopete
[12:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kopete - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:20] <Karti> waylandbill: 1. uname -r to find your kernal details (I believe)
[12:21] <Karti> waylandbill: 2. installing the matching linux-restricted-modules for your kernel
[12:21] <Karti> waylandbill: then installing nvidea-glx
[12:22] <Karti> waylandbill: then amending the xorg.conf
[12:22] <fvenez> I have some problems with a dialup connection: I managed to install drivers for my modem and connect using KPPP, but now firefox and konversation work fine while akregator and kopete can't connect
[12:22] <adenicio> !commit
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about commit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <waylandbill> Karti: looks like the same instructions on the ubuntu wiki.
[12:23] <pag> dhq, it should - I'm not sure though...
[12:23] <Karti> waylandbill: then once you have Ctrl + Alt + Backspace to reset X, you should be fine. Worked on mine with no issues that I am aware of and I have tried about 6 times (practicing with my images) over the last few days
[12:23] <pag> !ntfs | adenicio
[12:23] <ubotu> adenicio: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:23] <pag> !ntfs-3g | adenicio
[12:23] <ubotu> adenicio: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[12:23] <waylandbill> I just did a dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and have the resolution back, but not with the nvidia driver. Now to try putting that back in.
[12:24] <Karti> waylandbill: The only difference I think was that I used the -386 restricted modules
[12:24] <pag> waylandbill, are you using nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new ?
[12:24] <adenicio> pag: ok
[12:26] <Karti> pag: just a quick one, I loaded the -glx rather than the -legacy, is the -new another version? Not that it matters for mine as I have a 5900 on this PC
[12:27] <waylandbill> pag: nvidia-glx
[12:27] <pass> Q: why video plays so slow on youtube and other video sites? (graphic card drivers installed)
[12:27] <adenicio> !adept
[12:27] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[12:27] <pag> Karti, I don't know which package should be used for which card.. I'd guess that everything older than 5000-series should use -legacy and 7000-> should use -new
[12:28] <pag> waylandbill, if it doesn't work, you cold try -new... it might help
[12:28] <Karti> pag: ta- no probs
[12:28] <waylandbill> pag: ok. will try that.
[12:31] <pass> how come video plays so slow
[12:32] <pass> plz help, video in firefox plays slow..
[12:33] <jetsaredim> wow - just tried the kde4 beta1 stuff
[12:33] <jetsaredim> the plasma stuff looks good and so does dolphin
[12:34] <jetsaredim> but damn is more like an alpha release than an beta
[12:34] <jetsaredim> be forewarned
[12:34] <pass> HELP video in firefox plays SLOW, video card drivers installed properly, video still choking - what plugins to use (!! unable to watch porn plz help)
[12:34] <pag> kde4 isn't supposed to be rady yet..
[12:35] <pag> !repeat | pass
[12:35] <ubotu> pass: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:35] <adenicio> i hate this frekin system when one working the other gone bad when u get it to work the other fail,if u get all to work programmes crashes like crazy
[12:35] <pass> !repeat | pag
[12:35] <ubotu> pag: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:36] <adenicio> lol
[12:38] <adenicio> pag:what do i have to install to have the 3d descktop?
[12:38] <pag> adenicio, compiz / beryl / compiz fusion  support for all of them in #ubuntu-effects
[12:40] <jetsaredim> pag: I understand that its not ready for primetime, but for beta i would expect most of the components to be there and jut be buggy
[12:40] <adenicio> pag: how do i install with shell?
[12:40] <pag> adenicio, sudo apt-get install packagename
[12:41] <pag> jetsaredim, btw: are you sure you have beta  -ie. my mirror only updated alpha2 to beta1 only a few hours ago
[12:44] <adenicio> pag:
[12:44] <adenicio> pag: do u understand french?
[12:44] <pag> adenicio, nope.
[12:45] <pag> adenicio, paste the apt-output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and I'll see, if it'll make any sence to me
[12:45] <Karti> pag: how long you been linuxing?
[12:46] <cplusplus2> hi
[12:46] <adenicio> pag: ok
[12:46] <adenicio> sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[12:46] <adenicio> Password:
[12:46] <adenicio> E: Impossible de verrouiller /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:46] <adenicio> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:46] <pag> Karti, used it first time 1,5 year ago and made a swich about a year ago
[12:46] <pag> !apt-fix | adenicio
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:47] <pag> !aptfix | adenicio
[12:47] <ubotu> adenicio: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[12:47] <cplusplus2> is it possible during the installation of kubuntu to create 6 partitions with: ext2, ext3, xfs, jfs, reiserfs and ntfs?????
[12:47] <pag> cplusplus2, I'd guess.. may I ask, why do you need so many partitions though?
[12:47] <Karti> cool I'm on three months but been playing with it for about 18 months (vmware) but finally picked Kubuntu and removed windows from my test PC to force myself to learn lol
[12:48] <cplusplus2> i need to run filesystem benchmarks pag!!!
[12:48] <cplusplus2> pag is reiserfs supported at the installation?
[12:49] <pag> cplusplus2, oh... iirc kubuntu livecd comes with qparetd which supports most of the listed FS's
[12:49] <Karti> cplusplus2: is reiserfs now out of favour since the maker was arrested for murder?
[12:49] <cplusplus2> listed fs where?
[12:49] <Karti> or am I behind with the times!
[12:49] <pag> cplusplus2, the ones you listed just a few seconds ago ;)
[12:49] <cplusplus2> but its still in the kernel?
[12:49] <adenicio> pag: i did wat the bot said  but nothing happen in the shell.is it sopose to do something?
[12:50] <cplusplus2> qparted means i cant create them with the gui?
[12:50] <Karti> brb
[12:50] <pag> cplusplus2, http://qtparted.sourceforge.net/faq.en.html
[12:50] <cplusplus2> parted is a console appl!
[12:50] <pag> adenicio, it's teh unix way - command realy says anything, if it works. so if it said nothing it probably worked just fine
[12:51] <pag> cplusplus2, yup. and qparted is a gui-frontend for it
[12:51] <cplusplus2> nice!
[12:51] <cplusplus2> its supported at installation nice!
[12:51] <cplusplus2> what about reiserfs its not in the installation right?
[12:52] <cplusplus2> because this guy killed his wife?
[12:52] <pag> cplusplus2, I'm not sure if you can install on it, but iirc you can format a partition to reisferFS
[12:52] <cplusplus2> ah ok
[12:53] <cplusplus2> but its no problem to create 6 partition with qparted...thats nice!
[12:53] <cplusplus2> does it create a lvm internally?
[12:57] <adenicio> pag:it still give me the same prob with the lock thing
[12:57] <pag> adenicio, close adept before you try
[12:57] <jetsaredim> pag: the beta1 packages are 3.92, right?
[12:57] <pag> jetsaredim, yup.
[12:58] <jetsaredim> then yep, i;m running that
[12:59] <jetsaredim> well, i'm back to 3.5.7 now, but I was trying the beta
[12:59] <pag> jetsaredim, ok. so let's just hope KDE4 will get better with beta2 :)
[12:59] <jetsaredim> yea
[12:59] <jetsaredim> i'm thinking that they should have called this alpha3
[01:01] <pag> jetsaredim, heh... with original scheldule it was supposed to be called beta2  (alpha2 was supposed to be beta1 back then)  then they changed the naming system a bit
[01:01] <jetsaredim> nice
[01:01] <jetsaredim> well, maybe i'm being too harsh
[01:02] <jetsaredim> though i'm a developer myself and I've used plenty of beta (and alpha) software over the years
[01:03] <jetsaredim> i also didn't try the alpha2, so I don't really have a reference point
[01:09] <adenicio> pag:it dosnt work in normale console it still give me error of lock but when i try it in root console it work to install a pakage.but adept maneger still crashes
[01:09] <pag> adenicio, strange.. did you use sudo in norman konsole?
[01:10] <adenicio> pag:yes because all u send me i copy and past
[01:10] <adenicio> e
[01:11] <pag> ok, I dunno the what might be the problem.. I gotta go now, see you all :)
[01:12] <adenicio> pag:wait who else know alot like u?
[01:13] <adenicio> WHO CAN HELP ME,
[01:18] <combo> crap! i downloaded 'ati-driver-installer-8.38.6-x86.x86_64.run' file - installed it and there is still 'DIRECT RENDERING: No' :[[[ ( i have ATI Radeon 9600, Kub.606[LTS]  - maybe somebody knows why it doesn't work?
[01:18] <vistakiller> adenice use synaptic
[01:19] <vistakiller> is much better from adept
[01:19] <combo> vistakiller: u're talking to me ? :))
[01:19] <vistakiller> combo gine in konsile fglrxinfo
[01:19] <vistakiller> and paste here
[01:19] <vistakiller> konsole*
[01:19] <combo> vistakiller: wait a sec
[01:20] <combo> - here it is :: http://wklej.org/id/5c781896dd ::
[01:20] <vistakiller> you dont have the ati driver
[01:21] <vistakiller> if you have it it will say ati and no mesa
[01:21] <combo> but i've just already installed it before sec :/
[01:21] <vistakiller> with what guide?
[01:21] <combo> vistakiller: so what should i do ? :] 
[01:21] <vistakiller> wait a minute first i will give you a guide
[01:21] <thoreauputic> !ati
[01:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:21] <combo> vistakiller: no guide! i downloaded *.rub file and launch it :)
[01:22] <vistakiller> wait this is not the way
[01:22] <thoreauputic> vistakiller: yes it is :)
[01:22] <vistakiller> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide
[01:22] <vistakiller> here
[01:22] <vistakiller> what kind of ati you have?
[01:23] <combo> but i have Dapper Drake (6.06 LTS) version
[01:23] <vistakiller> np
[01:23] <combo> vistakiller: ATI Radeon 9600
[01:23] <vistakiller> i think your card is working with open driver
[01:23] <combo> and about those drivers i've just installed from *.run file ? how to remove them ? :)
[01:23] <vistakiller> here
[01:24] <vistakiller> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[01:24] <combo> vistakiller: i thought that too, cuz one month ago i had AIGLX+Beryl (on feisty) and everything worked well
[01:24] <vistakiller> if you install official driver
[01:24] <vistakiller> you will not have aiglx
[01:24] <combo> but somebody from this #canal told me yesterday that there is ATI open drivers no more, or something like this :/
[01:24] <vistakiller> ati official driver is not support this
[01:24] <vistakiller> yes
[01:24] <combo> vistakiller: EXACLY this! :D
[01:25] <vistakiller> you will install open driver
[01:25] <thoreauputic> combo: not true - I use open drivers with a Radeon 9200 on my iBook
[01:25] <combo> thoreauputic: and how to install them? cuz i prefer open :] 
[01:25] <combo> but if there is no other way - it would be XGL :/
[01:26] <thoreauputic> combo: they were there by default on my iBook
[01:26] <thoreauputic> not brilliant, but compiz and beryl work
[01:26] <thoreauputic> and planetpenguin/tus racer works :)
[01:27] <thoreauputic> *tux
[01:27] <combo> - i felt on my own skin that AIGLX is much faster than XGL while using BERYL
[01:27] <vistakiller> look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=514598&highlight=ati+open+driver
[01:28] <combo> thoreauputic: i used tux repos then (on feisty) but i resigned from Beryl, cuz it was boring :] 
[01:28] <combo> vistakiller: thx :] 
[01:28] <thoreauputic> combo: :) I just run it now and then - mostly to impress vista users ;p
[01:29] <thoreauputic> ... or make them cry :)
[01:29] <adenicio> !winefish
[01:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winefish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:30] <combo> thoreauputic: of cuz that beryl is much more beauty now than VISTA will ever be... but always same action all the time and i couldn't stand that anymore
[01:30] <adenicio> !synaptic
[01:30] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[01:30] <combo> so i decided to back to the 'standard' system using :)
[01:30] <thoreauputic> yes it can get to be too much :)
[01:31] <adenicio> vistakiller: are u good with linux?
[01:31] <combo> now i think that beryl is a 'toy' for people who start using Linux (and they use Window$ before)
[01:31] <nosrednaekim> on the contrary, I don't even use a taskbar, its all shift+tab for me (ring window switcher)
[01:32] <nosrednaekim> so beryl is very nice for that
[01:32] <vistakiller> i dont know :P
[01:32] <nicolai_> combo: I would rather say Beryl is a feature for people who _are_ used to Linux, since it might break and leave new users frustrated.
[01:36] <GuHHH> what is needed to make sound work when compiling a kernel?
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> the driver for your card and alsa support I believe
[01:36] <combo> nicolai_: :)
[01:37] <adenicio> vistakiller: hmmm....ok i had a modem olitec it take me ageses to find out the name of the port it was conected to wich is the port com1(on windows)but on linux i got true to use it in port name /dev/ttyS0 wich i guess that wa they name the port com1 in linux.....
[01:38] <vistakiller> yes
[01:38] <vistakiller> or /dev/ttys1
[01:38] <vistakiller> use kppp to connect
[01:38] <vistakiller> if it work :P
[01:39] <adenicio> vistakiller: now i conected a usb modem speedtouch in usb wich the pilots are install alllready but i dont know the name of the port it uses and in the option it got like 50 to choose the port it is conect to.i run in the console to see wa port it connected to but it give me name i dont see in the options
[01:40] <vistakiller> give lsusb
[01:40] <adenicio> vistakiller: kppp is wa i use to conect
[01:41] <vistakiller> to see if your system see your usb modem
[01:42] <adenicio> vistakiller: its that wa i did to see the name of the port but the names are not the same
[01:43] <vistakiller> i dont know try the kppp and look with lusb if you can see your modem
[01:43] <adenicio> vistakiller: it did see it
[01:44] <adenicio> vistakiller: it was bus 002 .... 002
[01:44] <vistakiller> ok you can see and your system from the kmenu
[01:44] <vistakiller> this is not the address
[01:44] <adenicio> vistakiller: wat dev was that
[01:44] <adenicio> ?
[01:45] <vistakiller> i dont know but this is not the adress
[01:45] <combo> crap! can't find anywhere some good guide (step by step) how to install AIGLX on my ATI  :[[[[[  why it is such difficult! :/
[01:46] <combo> vistakiller: on that forum where nothing intersted :/
[01:46] <combo> vistakiller: cuz it was about Radeon 9200 (max up to 9500) and i have 9600
[01:47] <combo> and from 9600 (and all later) there is something else with them as i read
[01:47] <msingh> any video conf. software to recommend?
[01:47] <nicolai_> combo: If you have already installed the driver, and if it is installed the same way the Nvidia driver is installed, then I would suggest going to: system settings -> monitor and display -> hardware -> admin -> configure graphics card
[01:48] <nicolai_> combo: I've never had to play with ATI cards though.
[01:48] <msingh> nicolai_, yes it all works fine with amsn.. but not very reliably
[01:48] <msingh> oh sorry i thought you were talking to me :)
[01:49] <nicolai_> msingh: :)
[01:49] <combo> WAAAAAAAAAIT EVERYBODY - i found some NEW option in menu called 'Catalyst Cotrol Center' :)
[01:49] <combo> maybe it has something in common with drivers i installed ? :)
[01:50] <combo> *** with drievers i was tryuing to install :D
[01:50] <Karti> vistakiller: just a quick but in, mt hacks guide suggests xorg-driver-fglrx for ati
[01:50] <vistakiller> yes with official driver combo
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> Karti: not if the card is too old to support it ;)
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> but I'm not sure if the 9600 is too old
[01:51] <Karti> ah just thought I could help ;)
[01:51] <combo> in this little tool i can configure Antyaliasing, anizotrop filtring double buffer and some other otpion i don't understand :) but here is nothing with XGL or i'm wrong ;P
[01:51] <adenicio> vistakiller: anyway i give up.my pc run on a 512ddr there are no a lot running but the pc goes slow like heck isnt there an option to choose like performance for everything to go fast
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> combo: did you restart your computer after installing the drivers?
[01:52] <combo> nosrednaekim: yeap
[01:52] <combo> ok, i set all option at maximum details :D
[01:52] <combo> let's see......... :)
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> combo: did you edit your xorg.conf to say fglrx instead of ati?
[01:53] <combo> applied... and must be reboot... hope my pc will be working :D
[01:53] <combo> nosrednaekim: i didn't editted anything
[01:54] <combo> nosrednaekim: just installed '*.run' file
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> combo: oh wow... now thats the wrong way to do it.
[01:54] <combo> there where drivers... i there were said that it will work :D
[01:54] <shiv_j> when I open ntfs-config it gives awarnig : gtk-Warning cannot open display. Plz help
[01:54] <combo> nosrednaekim: btw. do u know HOW TO edit xorg.conf file ? :)
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> combo: yeah
[01:55] <combo> i've read many 'bout that - but always didn't work :/
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> combo: run "apt-get install restricted-manager"
[01:55] <combo> that package wasn't found :/
[01:56] <combo> nosrednaekim: so it doesn't exist YET :)
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> combo: are you running edgy?
[01:56] <combo> nosrednaekim: Kubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper Drake :)
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> oh....... ok...... then,.......
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> combo: go into adept then.
[01:57] <combo> nosrednaekim: i've chose yesterday before latest version and Dapper and STABLE win, so i decideed to install Dapper :))
[01:57] <x_link> Hi
[01:57] <x_link> Is there anything I should install before installing LimeWire?
[01:58] <combo> nosrednaekim: here i am :)
[01:58] <x_link> sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre
[01:58] <x_link> sudo aptitude install sun-java5-plugin
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> ok. well are you in adept?
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> ok, search for
[01:58] <combo> nosrednaekim: aaaaalmost :D:D
[01:58] <x_link> I installed those 2 things. But when I load LimeWire it just dissapears after a while.
[01:58] <combo> nosrednaekim: still loading
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> fglrx
[01:58] <x_link> I really need this program, so can somebody please help me?
[01:59] <combo> nosrednaekim: ok found 4 records
[01:59] <shiv_j> plz help
[01:59] <shiv_j> root@shiv-laptop:/home/shiv# ntfs-config
[01:59] <shiv_j> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[01:59] <shiv_j> Xlib: No protocol specified
[01:59] <shiv_j> (ntfs-config:5585): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[01:59] <shiv_j> root@shiv-laptop:/home/shiv#
[01:59] <combo> contro, kernel source, driver fglxr and driver fglxr-dev
[02:00] <combo> nosrednaekim: WAIT!
[02:00] <combo> only one of all those four is installed :/
[02:00] <combo> xorg-driver-fglxr is installed
[02:00] <combo> nosrednaekim: and the others ARE NOT :] 
[02:00] <vistakiller> shiv_i you have install ntfs-3g?
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> it is?
[02:01] <combo> nosrednaekim: so maybe i have to install other 3 ? :)
[02:01] <combo> nosrednaekim: this one is installed and all else - not
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> combo: thats ok. so now pastebin your /etc/xorg.conf
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> no, the others are unmeccesary
[02:01] <combo> nosrednaekim: kk
[02:02] <combo> nosrednaekim: so here it is :: http://wklej.org/id/d78cf7394d ::
[02:03] <StoneNewt> does kde4 conflict with kde 3.7?
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> combo: make that your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, sorry
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> StoneNewt: No
[02:04] <combo> nosrednaekim: there is my xorg.conf ( ? )
[02:04] <combo> nosrednaekim: u want to see that file's contest, right ? :)
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> just a sec.
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> yes, of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> combo: could you please paste at the ubuntu pastebin, because its easier to edit over there.?
[02:07] <combo> nosrednaekim: ok, no problem, but just tell me what is UBUNTU PASTEBIN  ? :D:D
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> !paste
[02:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:07] <combo> nosrednaekim: doing it
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> thanks'
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> combo: and do another thing, uninstall the fglrx drivers that you manually installed with the .run file.
[02:09] <combo> nosrednaekim: crap!!! the xorg.xonf doesn't want to launch :/
[02:09] <combo> nosrednaekim: i'm typing: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf - and nothing happen :[[[[[[[
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> use "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[02:10] <combo> nosrednaekim: exactly that :] 
[02:10] <combo> nosrednaekim: " failed to open device " :] 
[02:10] <combo> nosrednaekim: wait a sec - reboot
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> pop up a terminal and try "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> what?
[02:13] <Pupeno>  What was the name of that program that would wrap "make install" and make a deb package?
[02:14] <combo> nosrednaekim: done! :) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32475/
[02:14] <thoreauputic> Pupeno: checkinstall
[02:14] <Pupeno> thoreauputic: thanks.
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> combo: use this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32476/
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> but back up your old file first
[02:17] <combo> nosrednaekim: let's see...
[02:18] <combo> nosrednaekim: reboot or just CTRL+ALT+BCKSPC ?
[02:19] <combo> nosrednaekim: ( back_up has been made )  ^^
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> neither yet. we have to go through what has to be done should this NOT work.
[02:19] <combo> nosrednaekim: ok
[02:20] <combo> nosrednaekim: so there is something else to do, right ? :)
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> it will give you a command line. log in and run this command "sudo cp <location of backed up file> /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> but hopefully it works.
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> combo: you uninstalled that .run version of the ati driver right?
[02:21] <combo> nosrednaekim: i didn't
[02:21] <combo> nosrednaekim: it is still there
[02:21] <combo> nosrednaekim: so i have to restore backed up copy ?
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> ok w/e log out and restart the X-server from KDM
[02:21] <combo> nosrednaekim: so first restore back up ?
[02:22] <combo> nosrednaekim: or try that new version ?
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> if something goes wrong, yes
[02:22] <combo> nosrednaekim: ok, got it
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> try the new version, yep
[02:26] <Riddell> feisty testers needed for kde 4 beta 1 http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php
[02:28] <szal> is the URL already in the bot?  we're having questions every now and then on how to install it
[02:30] <combo> nosrednaekim: didn't work - i had to backed it up
[02:30] <HayaBusa> Good morning everyone..
[02:30] <combo> nosrednaekim: ** i mean: restore :)
[02:30] <HayaBusa> dose anyone got any info on RED5 server ?
[02:31] <liquido^> hi there! i have a very big problem with moblock, somebody can help me?
[02:31] <Insane`KDE> How do I execute a shell script from the console?
[02:31] <runlevelten> Insane`KDE: ordinarily, you type the script's name
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> combo: hmm... ok
[02:31] <Insane`KDE> It gives me "command not found"
[02:32] <runlevelten> Insane`KDE: If it's in the current directory, you type ./scriptname - this is more secure as it stops system commands being replaced with scripts from the current directory secretly
[02:32] <runlevelten> which cmd.exe allows :)
[02:32] <liquido^> In the moblock.log i read: "possible hack hijack"... what does it mean?
[02:32] <Insane`KDE> Ah, thanks ^^
[02:33] <nosrednaekim> combo: could you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.1.log?
[02:33] <combo> nosrednaekim: k
[02:34] <Pensa`MIA> Riddell will I be able to choose between kde3 and kde4 when I install kde4base
[02:34] <combo> nosrednaekim: there is only Xorg.0.log :] 
[02:34] <nosrednaekim> combo: odd.
[02:34] <combo> nosrednaekim: Xorg.0.log and Xorg.0.log.old
[02:34] <combo> nosrednaekim: ok
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> pastebin the old.
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> we'll try that
[02:35] <combo> nosrednaekim: here it is :: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32478/ ::
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> ok!
[02:36] <combo> nosrednaekim: :)
[02:37] <Ace2016> Hi al
[02:37] <Ace2016> all *
[02:37] <Ace2016> can someone help me install the nvidia driver in linux from nvidia.com, i'm looking for /usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa  but its not there, does it come with that the .run file?
[02:38] <combo> nosrednaekim: make a back up first ? :)
[02:38] <vistakiller> try envy script
[02:38] <Ace2016> i'm using feisty but the ones in the repos do not support my card :(
[02:38] <vistakiller> alberto milone-envy
[02:38] <combo> nosrednaekim: u've already changed something, right ? cuz i see no difference :)
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> go into your xorg.conf and look for the "Section"Device"" that has ati as its driver
[02:39] <vistakiller> wait i will give you a link to install the nvidia driver
[02:39] <Ace2016> ok
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> combo: no, I haven't changed anything
[02:39] <vistakiller> http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> combo: when you find it, remove the whole section
[02:40] <combo> nosrednaekim: there are TWO Section "Device"
[02:41] <combo> nosrednaekim: which one delete ? :)
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> yes, but one of them defines "Driver" as "ati"
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> delete that one
[02:41] <combo> YES - one is Driver - ATI and another Driver - fglrx
[02:41] <combo> so this with ATI delete ?
[02:41] <combo> nosrednaekim: ok
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> yeah, the whole four line or so section
[02:42] <combo> nosrednaekim: reboot ? :)
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> no.
[02:42] <combo> nosrednaekim: ok
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> at the end of the file put this: Section "Extensions"
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> and then this line, tabbed in..: Option      "Composite" "0"
[02:44] <nosrednaekim> and then this,untabbed: EndSection
[02:44] <nosrednaekim> got all that?
[02:44] <combo> ony Composite ? anything else ?
[02:45] <combo> got that
[02:45] <kaminix|awayz> How do I make Kopete open links in swiftfox like Konversation does?
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> nope.
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> combo: this all would be easier if we were using fiesty.
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> combo: pastebin that file that you ust modified so I can verify that it looks right
[02:46] <combo> nosrednaekim: ok :)
[02:46] <combo> nosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32481/
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> ok great... go restart X.
[02:48] <combo> nosrednaekim: ok :)
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> you can back up as before if something goes wrong.
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> hopefully you weren't editing your backup file
[02:48] <combo> nosrednaekim: hope it won't be needed :)
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> :)
[02:57] <pass> Q: best method for backuping system? (system partition - /)
[03:03] <stdin> pass: there is no "best"
[03:03] <stdin> !best
[03:03] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[03:09] <pass> Q: A method for backuping system? (system partition - /)
[03:10] <runlevelten> pass: it depends on all sorts of requirements you may or may not have :)
[03:10] <runlevelten> more detail needed.
[03:11] <pass> what kind of requirements
[03:11] <showid> hi
[03:12] <pass> i want to have a sort of tar or something similar to ghost backup for the sys partition
[03:12] <pass> just need a recommendation for a good product, and if any1 knows - does ghost support ext3 backup?
[03:12] <showid> i have problems to install kubuntu on my desktop, wanna help  /qry ;)
[03:13] <runlevelten> so by product, I gather you don't want tar...
[03:13] <runlevelten> like a gui package?
[03:14] <pass> i don't really mind, i know tar will not be as easy as a ghost live cd
[03:15] <pass> u have to shut down, boot from live cd of linux, tar the sys without /proc or something and then recreate it when u untar
[03:15] <runlevelten> I would tentatively point out that ghost is supposed to support ext3, but I can't vouch for whether it works at all.
[03:15] <pass> ok, any idea how to do it with tar?
[03:17] <Jagoda>  /commands
[03:17] <runlevelten> consider using rsnapshot or partimage
[03:18] <runlevelten> (although I haven't used partimage for a long time, 'twas good :) )
[03:18] <stdin> there is "keep" the backup system for KDE
[03:19] <runlevelten> as for tar, well there's lots of exhaustive HOWTOness around that can explain that more fully than I can, starting with man tar
[03:19] <runlevelten> !tar
[03:19] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[03:19] <stdin> remember, if you are using tar you'll need at least double the space your data takes up
[03:19] <runlevelten> !backup
[03:19] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[03:20] <runlevelten> svn is good for ~ backup if you're used to it, too.
[03:21] <BluesKaj> I don't understand svn , is it an alternate repository or just another package source like sourcforge etc
[03:22] <BluesKaj> ?
[03:22] <Dragnslcr> It's a versioning system
[03:23] <Dragnslcr> Like CVS, only better
[03:24] <runlevelten> svn is a version control system - like a timeline for the files in a project, which handles the issues you get for multiple people working on a file that you don't want ruined.
[03:24] <runlevelten> It works well as a backup system on the side.
[03:25] <runlevelten> heh
[03:25] <BluesKaj> a superior version of packages/apps then ?
[03:25] <Riddell> Pensa`MIA: yes
[03:25] <Pensa`MIA> ok, installing
[03:26] <runlevelten> more like a souped up, networked uber-undo facility
[03:27] <stdin> I'm starting to use bzr more now
[03:27] <stdin> not sure why exactly
[03:33] <stdin> hmm, why does git seem to take forever tho?
[03:34] <pass> runlevelten - thanks
[03:36] <rotman> !mp3
[03:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:37] <Pensa`MIA> going to test kde4 on feisty
[03:37] <Pensa`MIA> brb
[03:39] <Karti> Hi, any one used simple backup? sbackup? and is there a kde gui for it?
[03:39] <runlevelten> pass, yvw
[03:40] <runlevelten> Karti: stdin was just pointing out keep, which may be what you want :)
[03:40] <Karti> runlevelten: cheers I will have a look
[03:41] <Pupeno> Can I connect to a router that offers "WPA2-PSK [AES] "? (using wpasupplicant)
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> yeah, ou can Pupeno
[03:45] <combo> nosrednaekim: hello back :) i just want to tell u that it doesn't work but i don't want to fight with it anymore :|
[03:45] <combo> nosrednaekim: i don't care those f**king ATI drivers anymore :/
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> combo: yeah. well I don't like working with dapper. Fiesty is so much easier
[03:46] <combo> nosrednaekim: so maybe soon - if i have a feisty i'll let u know :)
[03:46] <combo> nosrednaekim: but not so fast :D
[03:46] <nosrednaekim> hehe
[03:46] <sc0tch> Is KDE 4 planned to be in Gusty? or is that more of a "if KDE 4 is ready by the time they freeze Gutsy then it will be"?
[03:47] <pag> sc0tch, it will be available in repos, but will not be installen by default
[03:48] <StoneNewt> kde4 segfaults on me :(
[03:48] <Dr_willis> KDE4 made my dogs hair fall out!
[03:48] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:48] <nosrednaekim> SUE SUE SUE!!!!
[03:48] <savetheWorld> Dr_willis: Thats great!. No more shedding!
[03:49] <StoneNewt> Dr_willis: seriously it sefaults and dumps me back kdm...
[03:49] <Dr_willis> now he looks like a little rat! :0
[03:49] <jhutchins> StoneNewt: Have you filed a bugreport?
[03:49] <nosrednaekim> which is all he was anyway
[03:49] <Dr_willis> StoneNewt,  I know why ive been avoiding kde4 for now. :)
[03:49] <StoneNewt> jhutchins: not yet
[03:49] <savetheWorld> KDE4 is still in Beta isn't it?
[03:49] <Riddell> StoneNewt: feisty or gutsy?
[03:49] <jhutchins> StoneNewt: That's the whole point of running beta-test software.
[03:50] <jhutchins> savetheWorld: Just released the beta this week iirc.
[03:50] <Karti> Hi, I am looking at backing up only certain files such as my Kontact mail folder, but the recommendation is to tar and gz it. In windows I would normally create a batch file to do this, could someone give me some pointers? All help greatly appreciated
[03:50] <StoneNewt> jhutchins: right now my bug report would be 'it crashes as I log in and dumps me at kdm again'
[03:50] <jhutchins> StoneNewt: And a hardware listing.
[03:51] <StoneNewt> give me a while and it'll be blah fails during kdeinit up
[03:51] <savetheWorld> jhutchins: so much for me being subtle about reminding people that beta software only has beta quality, but thanks.. :-)
[03:51] <jhutchins> StoneNewt: Possibly copies of X error logs.
[03:51] <Riddell> StoneNewt: try running programmes from a terminal under KDE 3 (with the 4 export lines)
[03:51] <Riddell> StoneNewt: feisty or gutsy?
[03:51] <StoneNewt> feisty
[03:52] <Pali> i have problem with my webcam
[03:52] <jhutchins> Karti: What you want is a "shell script".
[03:52] <jhutchins> Karti: Basically you can just write the commands in order in a text file.
[03:53] <jhutchins> Karti: The first line should contain #! /bin/dash to specify that the dash shell should execute it.
[03:54] <savetheWorld> #!/bin/bash
[03:54] <jhutchins> Karti: Set it as executable, put it in /usr/etc, and put a symbolic link in /etc/cron/daily
[03:54] <Karti> jhutchins: cheers just found a site that covers basics. That should do nicely. On a par with this could I use Cron to set the times for these jobs..
[03:54] <savetheWorld> yes
[03:54] <Karti> jhutchins: perfect. Many thanks for the assistance
[03:54] <jhutchins> Karti: Yes, if you want a specifc time.
[03:54] <jhutchins> Karti: You will most likely be VERY pleased with the scripting abilities in Linux.
[03:55] <Karti> jhutchins: ta - it looks that way!
[03:55] <sam_> How to Install Themes in Fiesty?
[03:55] <jhutchins> !themes | sam_
[03:55] <ubotu> sam_: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[03:56] <Dr_willis> theres a lot of themes in the package manager, thats not isntalled by default.
[03:56] <Karti> jhutchins: final question for the mo....is there a support # for this kind of basic scripting?
[03:56] <echnaton> hi. iam running kubuntu 7.04 on my notebook and the system freezes continuosly. how to fix that?! it only freezes for view seconds.
[03:56] <jhutchins> Did Xera ever get that 9200 working?
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> echnaton: are you running beryl?
[03:57] <sam_> Which application to launch to use and install themes
[03:57] <echnaton> no
[03:57] <echnaton> also applications in terminal etc. freeze
[03:57] <echnaton> maybe something with cpu-frequency-scaling?
[03:57] <jhutchins> echnaton: Check your disk.
[03:57] <jhutchins> echnaton: fsck
[03:57] <echnaton> ok
[03:58] <jhutchins> echnaton: Probably "sudo shutdown -F -r now"
[03:58] <echnaton> ok jhutchins
[03:59] <jussi01> !changethemes | sam_
[03:59] <ubotu> sam_: To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[03:59] <sam_> ok thanks..well check it out
[03:59] <jussi01> :)
[04:00] <StoneNewt> Dr_willis: ahh...  KDE4 is seg faulting cause I messed up!
[04:00] <echnaton> ata2: command 0xa0 timeout, stat 0xdd0 host_stat and ata2: translated ata stat/err 0xd0/00 to sci sk/asc/ascq 0xb/47...
[04:01] <echnaton> jhutchins: something with s-ata i suppose
[04:02] <rotman> skype
[04:02] <rotman> hmm.. wwe
[04:02] <rotman> sorry bout that
[04:02] <Pali> i have problem with my webcam. i install driver gspca, ov51x, pwc, sn9c102, zr364, but cant use my webcam
[04:03] <arun> i cant move a couple folders from a cd to my hard drive.. it says 'access denied'
[04:04] <jhutchins> arun: You can't move files from a CD - you would be deleting them.  Just copy them.
[04:04] <arun> yeah thats what i meant
[04:04] <arun> copy files
[04:04] <arun> i cant
[04:04] <arun> just for this cd
[04:05] <arun> i can see the files, i can open the files from the cd, i just cant copy them
[04:05] <arun> any ideas?
[04:06] <jhutchins> arun: What are these files?
[04:06] <pag> arun, are you copying them to some locateion you have no write access?
[04:07] <pag> location, sorry
[04:07] <arun> pag: no, just to my home directory
[04:07] <arun> jhutchins: audio files.. but they dont have drm or anything like that
[04:08] <jhutchins> arun: What created the CD?
[04:08] <arun> a friend of mine burned the cd using windows xp
[04:08] <arun> drag and drop using roxio
[04:08] <arun> i've used other cds burned with the same software, so i dont know why this wont work
[04:08] <jhutchins> Oh.  Roxio.
[04:09] <jhutchins> No idea then, roxio is one of the reasons I haven't used Windows for the last five years.
[04:09] <Pali> my webcam doesnt function. i try many driver but any not function. what do i do?
[04:09] <jhutchins> Pali: It depends on what webcam and what you're trying to do with it, but there are some web pages that might help:
[04:10] <jhutchins> !webcam | Pali
[04:10] <ubotu> Pali: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:10] <pag> arun, see if cp gives any error.  ie. cp /media/cdrom/music/blaah.ogg ~
[04:11] <Pali> easycam2 not function.
[04:11] <jhutchins> pag: No telling what format roxio used for the disk, what file ownership there is, what the permissions are.
[04:11] <Pali> lsusb:Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0c45:612a Microdia
[04:11] <jhutchins> arun: You could probably copy them using sudo, but you would then need to use chown to set them as owned by you.
[04:11] <pag> jhutchins, oh. ok. :-/
[04:12] <arun> jhutchins: how do i do that? i tried opening konqueror with kdesu and then copying the files, but that didn't work either.. i then tried changing the permissions of the files, but it didnt let me change the permissions
[04:13] <ggbuntu> ciao
[04:13] <Pali> i try this drivers gspca, ov51x, pwc, sn9c102, zr364
[04:16] <arun> jhutchins: any idea? i really want one of the albums on that cd, havent been able to find it elsewhere
[04:16] <arun> :)
[04:16] <Pali> id my webcam: ID 0c45:612a Microdia --> this id is not supported by any drivers
[04:17] <jhutchins> arun: sudo cp /path/to/files ~/path/to/store/them/
[04:17] <arun> jhutchins: alright, will try
[04:17] <jhutchins> chown <youruser> ~/path/to/store/them/*
[04:17] <jhutchins> sudo chown <youruser> ~/path/to/store/them/*
[04:17] <arun> should i do that before or after
[04:18] <Riddell> StoneNewt: did you get it working?
[04:18] <StoneNewt> nope
[04:18] <nicolai_> arun: in the order jhutchins posted it
[04:18] <StoneNewt> new problem :S
[04:18] <arun> thanks guys, will try that and report back
[04:20] <melkor2> hi
[04:20] <melkor2> i have a problem trying to change my splash screen
[04:20] <melkor2> it says: "ksplash: cannot connect to X server :0.0"
[04:20] <melkor2> and
[04:20] <melkor2> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[04:20] <melkor2> Xlib: No protocol specified
[04:20] <melkor2> i just want to change the stupid splash screen
[04:21] <melkor2> anyone can help me?
[04:21] <nosrednaekim> melkor2: are you trying to do it as root?
[04:21] <StoneNewt> hum kde4 seem to be objecting to some of my ha
[04:22] <StoneNewt> hand made debs :( I'll have to try this on a new hdd
[04:23] <melkor2> yes
[04:24] <melkor2> but doesn't work
[04:24] <runlevelten> Damn, some of the opensuse artwork is beautiful.
[04:24] <runlevelten> Oh, wrong channel, sorry :)
[04:24] <pag> melkor2, you shouldn't do it as root - use normal user instead
[04:24] <nosrednaekim> melkor2: use normal user
[04:25] <melkor2> i tried first as normal
[04:25] <melkor2> and didn't work
[04:25] <melkor2> so i tried as root
[04:25] <pag> melkor2, try again as normal user
[04:26] <runlevelten> melkor... didn't work in what way?
[04:27] <melkor2> nop
[04:28] <HayaBusa> how can i install phpeclips plug in ???
[04:34] <Assid> hey
[04:34] <pag> hello Assid
[04:34] <Assid> can someone help me check why my cpu shows the cpu led as active..
[04:34] <kaminix2> Any ideas as to why SKIM won't work with QT4 apps and why it uses the SCIM icon (right-clicking it confirms it's SKIM though)?
[04:35] <arunkale> jhutchins: it gives me a 'no such file or directory' error
[04:35] <Assid> all of a sudden it always shows it as active.. i cant understand why
[04:35] <Assid> even rebooting didnt help
[04:35] <Assid> X is constantly on
[04:35] <nosrednaekim> Assid: its probably something used by the OS, and linux probably doesn't have support for it
[04:36] <Assid> nosrednaekim: i think its something related to x ..
[04:36] <Assid> it just shows alot of usage in it
[04:36] <runlevelten> assid: top
[04:36] <Assid> goes up and down between a constant 4.5% to 25%
[04:37] <Assid>  5644 root      15   0  144m  52m 6328 S   24  3.5   1:05.84 Xorg
[04:37] <nosrednaekim> Assid: looks about normal
[04:37] <Assid> 24% ?
[04:37] <nosrednaekim> isn't that 3.5%?
[04:38] <nosrednaekim> oh no... never mind
[04:38] <nosrednaekim> yeah that is bad
[04:38] <stdin> X does nothing on it's own, it'd be an application  using the X estentions
[04:38] <stdin> like beryl/compiz or even firefoz
[04:38] <nosrednaekim> Assid: you using beryl?
[04:38] <stdin> *firefox
[04:38] <runlevelten> Are you sure it's a CPU led not the hard drive light?
[04:38] <Assid> nosrednaekim: yes.. but its not supposed to be on constant
[04:38] <Assid> runlevelten: not sure.. cpu/harddrive
[04:39] <nosrednaekim> Assid: well, beryl will do that to you
[04:39] <runlevelten> you running beagle?
[04:39] <Assid> nope
[04:39] <Assid> i do see alot of disk io tho
[04:39] <Assid> 125K/1336K
[04:40] <Assid> erven tho im not doing anything
[04:41] <runlevelten> Yeah, disk io can be worse, too
[04:41] <Assid> yeah
[04:41] <Assid> trying to understand why
[04:41] <runlevelten> maybe you're building slocatedb
[04:41] <Assid> i did disassemble my machine to clean it
[04:41] <Assid> alot of usb slots may have interchanged and stuff
[04:42] <runlevelten> got any ps ax | grep find?
[04:42] <runlevelten> got any ps ax | grep find    ?
[04:43] <Assid> runlevelten: nothing
[04:43] <runlevelten> so you'll probably have no ps ax | grep updatedb either then
[04:44] <runlevelten> Assid: what services have you installed?
[04:45] <arunkale> jhuthcins: got a second?
[04:46] <nosrednaekim> its jhutchins...
[04:47] <arunkale> ah yes
[04:47] <arunkale> jhutchins
[04:50] <Assid> back
[04:50] <Snake> alright, whos really good with ubuntu and wants to answer a question...
[04:50] <pag> !ask | Snake
[04:50] <ubotu> Snake: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:50] <Snake> robotgeek: PING!
[04:51] <Snake> I want to dump all my gnome stuff
[04:51] <Snake> and get kde running on here
[04:51] <Snake> I want it to be like a fresh kubuntu install... without the fresh install
[04:51] <Snake> :P
[04:51] <pag> Snake, like this? http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[04:51] <Assid> runlevelten: got it working
[04:52] <Assid> one of the ide burners wasnt responding
[04:52] <Snake> pag: perfect
[04:52] <Snake> thanks :)
[04:52] <pag> np :)
[04:52] <ubuntu__> hello
[04:52] <pag> !hi | ubuntu__
[04:52] <ubotu> ubuntu__: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[04:52] <ubuntu__> i need some help please
[04:52] <Assid> now if  only i can figure out how to get the taskbar to be independant per desktop in beryl
[04:52] <pag> ubuntu__, just ask your question :)
[04:53] <runlevelten> Assid: well done
[04:53] <ubuntu__> is beryl install by default in the ubuntu 7.4 packages?
[04:53] <Assid> err.. what do you guys use for msn ?
[04:54] <pag> ubuntu__, in Ubuntu there's compiz installed (but not enabled) in Kubuntu - nothing
[04:54] <pag> Assid, when I used only msn I used KMess, nowdays I use kopete
[04:54] <ubuntu__> i thought the only difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is just that kde is install with kubuntu ?
[04:55] <Assid> kopete needs to add a search feature that lets you use the damn email id
[04:58] <adenicio> Assid: hello
[04:58] <ubuntu__> hi i searching for a new disto to try does anyone recommned kubuntu. iam interested in programming ?
[04:58] <Assid> hi adenicio
[04:59] <Stratys> can anyone help me out....i need to know if you can set and run macros on kubuntu...and if so How!
[04:59] <Stratys> lol
[05:00] <Assid> hahahahaaa : http://www.bash.org/?244321
[05:00] <runlevelten> ubuntu__: any halfway decent gnu/linux distro will be great for a programmer.
[05:00] <adenicio> Assid: i install synaptic with the console a window pop up talking about the licen for java that i have to accept by presin ok i tink but nothing workin it just staying there i can get true to accept
[05:01] <ubuntu__> i think iam going to install kubunt
[05:01] <Assid> adenicio: scroll down.. the java license agreement needs you to enable that chweck box
[05:02] <Snake> pag: this is awesome....
[05:02] <adenicio> Assid: its no scrollin down thats the prob
[05:02] <Snake> I ran it while still in ubuntu
[05:02] <Snake> and the world just collapsed around me
[05:03] <pag> Snake, heh... I hope everything works ok now?
[05:03] <Snake> pag: iunno, its reinstalling
[05:03] <Snake> well
[05:03] <Snake> instaling KDE
[05:03] <Assid> adenicio: in the page before you agree
[05:03] <Assid> adenicio: it shows the license agreement
[05:04] <runlevelten> adenicio: check you've read the license, check your modifier keys aren't stuck, check your mouse is functional, plugged in properly, and that the working parts (ie the clear part for the laser) are clean.
[05:04] <pag> adenicio, if you install thorough console you should scroll down (with arrow) and choose ok with tab
[05:05] <adenicio> pag:ok i had to do it with the pad lol
[05:05] <adenicio> pag:tanks
[05:05] <pag> np
[05:06] <Snake> pag: how long you been around here?
[05:06] <Snake> (I used to chill in this room a lot, never seen ya)
[05:07] <pag> Snake, since the beginning of summer I think..
[05:07] <Snake> ah
[05:07] <Snake> That explains i
[05:07] <Snake> t
[05:07] <Snake> :P
[05:07] <adenicio> lol
[05:07] <Snake> I havnt been here since fawns release..
[05:08] <Snake> probably before that
[05:08] <adenicio> !fawn
[05:08] <ubotu> Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[05:08] <apetrescu> Hi guys; is it possible to change the volume name of a hard drive without reformatting it? If so, how?
[05:09] <Snake> apetrescu: I know you can, but I cant remeber how
[05:09] <Snake> and I dont have a web browser im afraid..
[05:09] <apetrescu> Snake, thanks, it's good to know that my search is not in vain, at least :)
[05:09] <apetrescu> Does anyone else know how?
[05:10] <apetrescu> Hm, I just thought of something; I should check to see if qtparted can do it!
[05:10] <runlevelten> apetrescu: change the name in what way?
[05:10] <Snake> runlevelten: change C: to I:
[05:10] <Snake> im assuming
[05:10] <runlevelten> apetrescu: as in the /name ?
[05:10] <Snake> or sba1 to sba2
[05:10] <Snake> whatever
[05:11] <apetrescu> runlevelten: Not the mount point, no.
[05:11] <Snake> lol
[05:11] <apetrescu> runlevelten: The actual volume name that the HD carries with it everywhere, even across OS'.
[05:12] <apetrescu> In qtparted it's called a "label"
[05:12] <nicolai_> apetrescu: that depends on the motherboard and internal wiring
[05:12] <apetrescu> But qtparted doesn't let you change it, just view it :(
[05:13] <nicolai_> apetrescu:I believe you have to open the case and change the Master/slave cabels
[05:13] <apetrescu> Ah, I found it! (online)
[05:13] <pag> apetrescu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive  <- not sure if this applies to HDDs, but you could take a look at this
[05:13] <Snake> nicolai_: he wants to change what he labeled the drive as
[05:13] <apetrescu> It's nothing so complicated. I just have to use 'e2label'
[05:14] <Snake> lol
[05:14] <apetrescu> e2label /dev/sda5 nameofthelabel
[05:14] <Snake> apetrescu: sounds too easy... how much does 23label cost :P
[05:14] <nicolai_> apetrescu: ahh. that kind of label :P
[05:14] <Snake> e3lable*
[05:14] <Snake> whatever
[05:14] <apetrescu> Ah! pag, thanks :)
[05:14] <runlevelten> nicolai_: labels are on file systems ;)
[05:14] <apetrescu> I ended up finding it at almost the same time as you, but your link is more thorough.
[05:16] <andrea> rag nn capisco: ho reinstallato kubuntu 7.04 e aggiornato, al riavvio era cambiato il login display e il kmenu, + bello, con una migliore organizzazione delle voci
[05:17] <andrea> e quando reinstallato, da live cd, nn sono statop in grado di riavere il kmenu nuovo
[05:17] <pag> !es | andrea
[05:17] <ubotu> andrea: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:18] <adenicio> !synaptic !adept / pag
[05:19] <pag> adenicio, huh?
[05:19] <adenicio> wich is beter
[05:19] <adenicio> ?
[05:19] <dimentiy>  
[05:19] <jhutchins> adenicio: aptitude
[05:19] <pag> adenicio, imho - Synaptic  (though overall I prefer just apt)
[05:20] <UQlev> dimentiy: tebya seychas otoshlyut na kubuntu-ru ;)
[05:20] <dimentiy> nemaloveroyatno)
[05:21] <spiffytech> Hi! I somehow fried my wifi connection this morning. It was fine until I started Wireshark, and now knetworkmanager doesn't see my wireless card, even though the Kcontrol does.
[05:21] <kharloss> hi there . I made a big mistake . i use this command "sudo tar -cvzpf magazin.tgz /var/www/magazin"  and  look what happened / what camn i do to go back to my previous state ? any solution ? I really apreciate . screenshot here :http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/1909/sreenshot2nz8.png
[05:22] <kharloss> i archived all my files
[05:22] <kharloss> can i tar -zxvf for recursive unarcive ?
[05:22] <kharloss> or .. what can i do ?
[05:23] <andrea> why once i setup 7.o4 kubuntu from live cd, and after update, i found environment changes, like in login display, and kmenu, much more better, and then, after reinstall form live cd, and update again, i can't have those changes again?
[05:23] <Assid> can anyone recommend sometinhg like gkrellm .. but better
[05:24] <rubicon[1] > hello
[05:24] <ronin_> Hello everyone
[05:24] <ronin_> Anyone pretty awesome with configuring Guarddog?
[05:25] <jhutchins> kharloss: Don't understand, what's the problem?  You archived your files - that's what you were trying to do, right?
[05:25] <ronin_> or Firestarter, if its better somehow?
[05:25] <rubicon[1] > A little question: i use one PC as Router and my newly installed very old pc with Feisty can PIng any server, can even do ftp, but with IRC and hhtp:// it won't work. WHY?
[05:26] <BluesKaj> rubicon[1] :  which browser ?
[05:26] <jhutchins> rubicon[1] : Usually that's because they are set to use a proxy, and you don't have a proxy, or the other way around.
[05:26] <rubicon[1] > why can i PING, open FTP-Sessions, and get Timeout or else when trying to Update or http://xlgkjsdgjsdkgj
[05:27] <rubicon[1] > i disabled all proxies
[05:27] <rubicon[1] > browser: still konqueror
[05:27] <BadRobot> hi there fellas
[05:27] <pag> rubicon[1] , might be the infamous bug in knetworkmanager - try disabling it and try again
[05:27] <kharloss> jhutchins:  i archived
[05:27] <ronin_> Oddly enough, if I turn on the GuardDog config to let IRC traffic through, I can't connect to this IRC server!
[05:27] <pag> hello BadRobot :)
[05:27] <kharloss> but all my files are now overwriten with archived files
[05:27] <BadRobot> Does anyone knows if Kubuntu 7.10 (Gusty Gibbon) will be released on KDE4?
[05:28] <kharloss> my files are  php
[05:28] <pag> BadRobot, it will not. It will have it installable, but KDE4 won't be the default untill gutsy+2
[05:28] <kharloss> if you take a look at this picture you will understand
[05:29] <pag> BadRobot, but as said - you will be able to install it (and you are infact able do install beta1 in Feisty)
[05:30] <jhutchins> kharloss: Sorry, I can't see what the problem is.
[05:30] <spiffytech> Hi! I somehow fried my wifi connection this morning. It was fine until I started Wireshark, and now knetworkmanager doesn't see my wireless card, even though the Kcontrol does.
[05:31] <BadRobot> I will wait for the release,because i think KDE4 beta 1  is still very buggy
[05:31] <jhutchins> spiffytech: Hard reboot? (power down)
[05:31] <jhutchins> BadRobot: Very smart choice.
[05:31] <spiffytech> Tried it with no success
[05:32] <jhutchins> spiffytech: Remove wireshark?
[05:32] <kharloss> jhutchins:  all my files are now  like index.php.gz     but all my filws must be   like index.php ... all my pictures are  image.jpg.gz ....
[05:32] <kharloss> you understand ?
[05:32] <spiffytech> I haven't removed it. let me try that.
[05:32] <kharloss> i need recover my files
[05:35] <egon_> can someone help me? i want to install my Nvidia VGA Treiber im loging in with root in the Konole but when i tipp init 3 ... Nothing happend -.-
[05:35] <BadRobot> and i am using DesktopBSD and Kubuntu,so i don't mess around with this box.Check this out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE4
[05:36] <jhutchins> kharloss: for foo in `ls *.gz`; do gunzip $foo; done
[05:36] <egon_> can noone help me?
[05:37] <jhutchins> egon_: init 3 is the same as init 5 in ubuntu.
[05:37] <rubicon[1] > egon_: tri to log off normally, and then switch to konsole by pressing CTRL_ALT_F1
[05:37] <jhutchins> egon_: you need to stop kdm instead, from a regular console as rubicon[1]  says.
[05:38] <rubicon[1] > pag: i killed everal processes with K and Network, ifup works, ping works perfectly, even for servers i never pinged before ;), but it seems to get a timeout at Updating/Surfing and so
[05:39] <pag> rubicon[1] , restart konqueror maybe? :S
[05:40] <rubicon[1] > but even adept-manager has problems/Timeouts. i can not download anything. :((    (firefoy for example)
[05:41] <pag> rubicon[1] , try restarting network... sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:41] <spiffytech> I removed wireshark and rebooted, but knetworkmanager still doesn't see my wireless interface.
[05:41] <egon_> it wont helo when i am tipping init 3 nothing happen
[05:41] <egon_> help
[05:42] <StoneNewt> I'm being silly but I've lost the link to the compiz fusion icon deb anyone have the link cause I can't find it on google :(
[05:43] <rubicon> egon: runlevel 1 or 2 should do also. So: switch to konsole (STRG-ALT-F1), log in,then type SUDO init 2
[05:45] <rubicon> pag: no. no chance. ping: ok, ftp: timeout
[05:46] <spiffytech> My wifi light is flashing, though.
[05:46] <pag> rubicon, ok. sorry, but I'm out of ideas then.
[05:46] <BadRobot> i like kubuntu ,but i am having a couple of problems with knetwork-manager
[05:46] <rubicon> i use the same config on my laptop, and this pc here (DualBoot, now i'm typing in windows. It serves as my router for the other old box)
[05:46] <BadRobot> and my wifi network
[05:46] <rubicon> BadRobot: what does iwconfig say?
[05:47] <rubicon> ifconfig wlan0 up?
[05:47] <rubicon> ifup wlan0?
[05:49] <BadRobot> i have done it already,but i am using WEP,so i type the right passphrase and it tries to connect ,then it hungs
[05:49] <BadRobot> if i use wifi without any wep,wpa or wpa2 it works finew
[05:49] <BadRobot> fine
[05:49] <jhutchins> Wrong version of wpa
[05:51] <cplusplus2> how could i create 6 partitions for hda1 here? -> http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=partitionenlf3.png
[05:51] <HayaBusa> how can i assosicate rtmp with firefox ????
[05:52] <trekdanne> konqueror settings -> file associations -> uri ?
[05:52] <rubicon> BadRobot: then keep it turned off and activatre a MAC-Filter in your Router for example.
[05:53] <HayaBusa> but i need to do it with firefox . I installed RED 5, and it uses RTMP rather then http ..
[05:54] <cplusplus2> how could i create 6 partitions for hda1 here? -> http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=partitionenlf3.png
[05:55] <trekdanne> HayaBusa: hmm... where are clicking the url?
[05:56] <trekdanne> from where are you clicking  the url
[05:58] <Prophezy> anyone knows how to change the text color in irc with Gaim????
[05:59] <savetheWorld> Prophezy: suggest:  turn off all color
[06:00] <[IT] 4ngelus> does anyone know how to make my computer bluetooth adapter visible to other bluetooth devices?
[06:02] <Prophezy> savetheworld  hehe, i think i have it already i cant see what people are writing only when you write my name
[06:02] <savetheWorld> heh
[06:02] <Prophezy> i have black background , and all the text in here is black :D
[06:02] <Prophezy> well i think i go back to mirc :D
[06:03] <savetheWorld> Prophezy: why not turn the bacjground white?
[06:03] <ubunturos> does gcc 4.0 have problems with svgalib?
[06:03] <Prophezy> thats the problem,, i dont know where to turn it back again :D
[06:04] <manson_> C'est qu'il y a du monde ici
[06:04] <manson_> Salut
[06:06] <StoneNewt> is it me or is kcontrol unreliable when asking for a sudo password
[06:06] <pag> !fr | manson_
[06:06] <ubotu> manson_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:07] <manson_> Thanks sorry for disturb
[06:07] <pag> StoneNewt, it is. launch it infront with root-rights, it works better (though forces to be more careful)
[06:08] <pag> StoneNewt, the command is: kdesu kcontrol
[06:08] <Prophezy> do anyone know if mirc is compatible with linux????
[06:08] <javier> hi
[06:08] <trekdanne> Prophezy: yes under wine
[06:08] <Prophezy> oki thanks
[06:08] <just-this-time> guys how do you fight junk mail ?
[06:09] <trekdanne> although I would consider using konversation, xchat or BitchX
[06:10] <just-this-time> I vote for konversation on linux
[06:10] <just-this-time> and xchat on windows
[06:11] <StoneNewt> pag: I've always used it as run and wait for the thing to prompt me for a password for things like kdm theme manager etc,,,\
[06:11] <runlevelten> konversation is good if you're very into your antialised fonts.
[06:12] <runlevelten> It's not as good as irssi or erc, but it can be made to look nice.
[06:17] <trekdanne> just-in-time: im quite happy with google's spam filter on my gmail, so I have been using it ever since I got an account. However I've heard that SpamAssistant is really powerful
[06:20] <[IT] 4ngelus> i'll try again to ask a question...
[06:21] <[IT] 4ngelus> does anyone know how to make my PC visible to other bluetooth devices
[06:21] <[IT] 4ngelus> ?
[06:21] <pag> !bluetooth
[06:21] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[06:21] <mohammad> Hello, how should a beta version of a package be named? would someone please guide me?
[06:23] <pag> mohammad, 1.2beta1... if it's your software, it's also your choise - if you're packaging something for ubuntu, you could ask in #ubuntu-motu - they know better
[06:25] <mohammad> pag, oh thank you so the version number should come before "beta"
[06:27] <pag> mohammad, I don't know... different software use different methods - ie. kde4 beta1's version is 3.92  Gnome uses 2.19.X as unstable developing version and so on.
[06:29] <hsn_> how can i convert .ico file to gif? icontopbm complains about bad file
[06:29] <steffen> how to find the uptime on my computer?
[06:29] <rajazz> join #ubuntu-ar
[06:29] <trekdanne> uname -a
[06:30] <rajazz> jjajaja
[06:30] <pag> steffen, uptime  is the command :)
[06:30] <steffen> k. thx ;)
[06:33] <steffen> i having problem getting mySQL to work. i have installed with the apt-get command. but when i try enter the mySQL database with phpmyadmin i get kicked out when i try clicking on the options. help?
[06:34] <rajazz> quit
[06:34] <pacman_> I'm having a problem with my wireless...when I try an connect, it goes to 28% and says 'configuring device' but that's as far as it goes
[06:39] <zergtwaft> test
[06:39] <zergtwaft> hello?
[06:40] <Karti> jhutchins: Many thanks for before. Managed to find a book at home Beginners Guide to Linux Programming (can't remember buying that) but creating the backup script was very easy, so one again ta!
[06:45] <nicolai_> !hi | zergtwaft
[06:45] <ubotu> zergtwaft: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:45] <Snake> Who wants to help me with this...
[06:45] <Snake> http://pastebin.ca/645460
[06:47] <pag> Snake, did you use repos to install compiz-gnome or just some random .deb?
[06:47] <stdin> Snake: try compiz-kde, not compiz-gnome (you'll have to remove compiz-gnome)
[06:47] <Snake> pag: trevinhos repos
[06:47] <Snake> stdin: thats what im tryin to do
[06:47] <Snake> but I cant remove it
[06:47] <Snake> I accidently put compiz-gnome
[06:47] <Snake> noticed what I did
[06:47] <Snake> killed it
[06:48] <Snake> and now.. yeah. broked
[06:48] <pag> sudo dpkg -r compiz-gnome
[06:48] <Snake> small paste
[06:48] <Snake> dpkg: error processing compiz-gnome (--remove):
[06:48] <Snake>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[06:48] <Snake>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[06:48] <Snake> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:48] <Snake>  compiz-gnome
[06:48] <pag> sudo dpkd --configure -a   ?
[06:49] <stdin> try editing the post-removal script?
[06:49] <Snake> pag: comes out clean
[06:49] <Snake> stdin: there is no post removal script ;)
[06:50] <stdin> Snake: dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 250 < yes there is
[06:50] <Snake> oh
[06:50] <Snake> well
[06:50] <Snake> stdin: how do I fix it? lol
[06:50] <Snake> pag: any other ideas?
[06:50] <Snake> right now I cant install or remove...anything
[06:51] <pag> so --configure -a works, but -r doesn't?
[06:51] <Snake> correc
[06:51] <Snake> t
[06:51] <stdin> Snake: try editing "/var/lib/info/compiz-gnome.postrm" and put "exit 0" after "#!/bin/sh"
[06:51] <stdin> Snake: opps, that's "/var/lib/dpkg/info/compiz-gnome.postrm"
[06:53] <Snake> pag: that sound smart to you? ^^
[06:53] <pag> Snake, yup.
[06:54] <Snake> okay
[06:54] <Snake> now what
[06:54] <stdin> it's not really that "smart", it's very hackish, but it should work ;)
[06:54] <Snake> lol
[06:54] <pag> Snake, now just remove the package
[06:54] <pag> ie. sudo dpkg -P compiz-gnome
[06:55] <Snake> ken@ken-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg -P compiz-gnome
[06:55] <Snake> dpkg: error processing compiz-gnome (--purge):
[06:55] <Snake>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[06:55] <Snake>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[06:55] <Snake> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:55] <Snake>  compiz-gnome
[06:55] <stdin> ok, try "sudo dpkg --configure compiz-gnome"
[06:55] <stdin> then, if that works you can purge it
[06:55] <Snake> dpkg: error processing compiz-gnome (--configure):
[06:55] <Snake>  package compiz-gnome is not ready for configuration
[06:55] <Snake>  cannot configure (current status `half-installed')
[06:55] <stdin> hmm...
[06:56] <pacman_> I'm having a problem with my wireless...when I try an connect, it goes to 28% and says 'configuring device' but that's as far as it goes
[06:56] <pag> !wireless | pacman_
[06:56] <ubotu> pacman_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:56] <stdin> Snake: ok, try installing it again, "sudo apt-get install compiz-gnome"
[06:57] <nosrednaekim> pacman_: heh, does that for me two. what is your chipset?
[06:57] <Snake> stdin: http://pastebin.ca/645469
[06:57] <nosrednaekim> pacman_: and are you using ndiswrapper?
[06:58] <pacman_> I've got an ATI chip, and no, on ndiswrapper
[06:58] <pacman_> I never had any problems with 6.06
[06:59] <pag> Snake, try purging ( -P ) again.. does it give any nicer results?
[06:59] <nosrednaekim> pacman_: ATI is the graphics chipset, not the wifi.
[06:59] <stdin> Snake: if not it's time for hack number 2, edit "/var/lib/dpkg/info/compiz-gnome.postinst" and put "exit 0" after "#!/bin/sh" again
[06:59] <nosrednaekim> whats your laptop model.
[07:00] <Snake> pag:  http://pastebin.ca/645472
[07:00] <Snake> stdin: ^^
[07:00] <stdin> Snake: yeah, try what I said then
[07:00] <Snake> stdin: okay, now what?
[07:00] <pacman_> I forget which wireless card I have, it's not a laptop
[07:00] <stdin> Snake: rerun the purge command
[07:01] <Snake> stdin: same error
[07:01] <nosrednaekim> pacman_: oh... ok. I guess it doesn't matter.
[07:01] <stdin> Snake: after you edited the file ("/var/lib/dpkg/info/compiz-gnome.postinst") ?
[07:01] <nosrednaekim> pacman_: do you have encryption on your router?
[07:01] <Snake> stdin: correct
[07:01] <pacman_> yes
[07:02] <nosrednaekim> pacman_: which type? WPA?
[07:02] <stdin> Snake: ahh, now it's the pre-removal script :p do the same thing in "/var/lib/dpkg/info/compiz-gnome.prerm"
[07:02] <pacman_> I believe it's just a WEP key
[07:02] <nosrednaekim> pacman_: ok, thats easy enough
[07:03] <Snake> stdin: I hope your keeping track of these files :P
[07:03] <stdin> Snake: I am :)
[07:03] <nosrednaekim> do iwconfig and pastebin the output for me.
[07:03] <Snake> okay changed
[07:03] <stdin> Snake: purge again
[07:03] <Snake> stdin: same error
[07:03] <Snake>  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 250
[07:04] <stdin> but you just edited that
[07:04] <Snake> uh huh
[07:05] <pacman_> http://pastebin.ca/645474
[07:05] <stdin> Snake: check that file again, see if the changes you made are still there
[07:05] <Snake> they are
[07:05] <Snake> I just did ;)
[07:05] <stdin> Snake: oh, wait, it's post-removal now
[07:05] <stdin> Snake: have a look at "/var/lib/dpkg/info/compiz-gnome.postrm"
[07:05] <stdin> Snake: if it doesn't have "exit 0" near the top, add it
[07:06] <Snake> changed
[07:06] <Snake> lets see now..
[07:06] <Snake> stdin: purge?
[07:06] <stdin> yep
[07:06] <Snake> ken@ken-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg -P compiz-gnome
[07:06] <Snake> dpkg: error processing compiz-gnome (--purge):
[07:06] <Snake>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[07:06] <Snake>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[07:06] <Snake> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:06] <Snake>  compiz-gnome
[07:07] <stdin> ugg
[07:07] <nosrednaekim> pacman_: sorry, i'm getting there.
[07:07] <Snake> are we having fun yet?
[07:07] <Snake> :P
[07:07] <nosrednaekim> pacman_: ok, run this command "sudo iwconfig ra0 ESSID <your essid>"
[07:07] <nosrednaekim> pacman_: remember these commands, i'm not sure if it remember these settings
[07:07] <stdin> Snake: ok, edit "/var/lib/dpkg/info/compiz-gnome.postinst" and "/var/lib/dpkg/info/compiz-gnome.preinst" if they are there
[07:08] <Snake> okay it was in the first one
[07:09] <stdin> Snake: now dpkg --configure compiz-gnom
[07:09] <Snake> and the second one is a blank file
[07:09] <Snake> stdin: the second is a blank file...
[07:09] <stdin> leave it blank then
[07:09] <Snake> ok
[07:09] <pacman_> okay
[07:09] <Snake> dpkg: error processing compiz-gnome (--configure):
[07:09] <Snake>  package compiz-gnome is not ready for configuration
[07:09] <Snake>  cannot configure (current status `half-installed')
[07:09] <Snake> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:09] <Snake>  compiz-gnome
[07:09] <stdin> man! :p
[07:09] <pussfeller> i installed kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu install, and now, i want the ubuntu boot up splash back
[07:09] <Snake> stdin: any chance the PACKAGE is broken?
[07:10] <nosrednaekim> pacman_: then run "sudo iwconfig ra0 key <yourWEP key>"
[07:10] <pussfeller> also, the commands i havefor gdm to execute are not executing
[07:10] <nosrednaekim> pacman_: and then " sudo ifconfig ra0 up"
[07:10] <stdin> Snake: looks like it doesn't depend on everything it actually NEEDS :p
[07:10] <Snake> stdin: I got an idea
[07:10] <Snake> how about
[07:11] <Snake> stdin: I remove every compiz file associated with both KDE and gnome
[07:11] <Snake> and see what that does
[07:11] <stdin> Snake: thing is, it still won't fix the package
[07:11] <pacman_> okay
[07:11] <nosrednaekim> pacman_: and finally, "sudo dhclient ra0"
[07:12] <Snake> stdin: hang on, lemme restart
[07:12] <pussfeller> how do you get compiz to turn off anyways
[07:13] <nosrednaekim> pussfeller: "kwin --replace"
[07:13] <pussfeller> if i run killall -9 compiz.real from the menu i set up, it locks up the machine
[07:13] <pussfeller> how would you do that with nautilus
[07:13] <nosrednaekim> pussfeller: with gnome you mean?
[07:13] <pussfeller> \yeah
[07:13] <nosrednaekim> no clue. maybe "metacity --replace"?
[07:14] <pussfeller> heh thats what the man page says
[07:14] <pussfeller> let see if it works
[07:14] <nosrednaekim> ok
[07:15] <nosrednaekim> pacman_: now run ifconfig and see if you have an Ip address for ra0
[07:15] <pacman_> http://pastebin.ca/645479
[07:15] <pacman_> and no, I don't have an IP addy for ra0
[07:15] <nosrednaekim> ok.
[07:16] <nosrednaekim> aure you put in the key correctly?
[07:16] <nosrednaekim> *sure
[07:16] <pacman_> yes
[07:16] <nosrednaekim> are you on your wired now or something?
[07:17] <MaTiAz> hey, anyone have any experience of dualboot with Vista and Kubuntu?
[07:17] <pacman_> yeah
[07:17] <MaTiAz> Do they play along nicely (as in don't destroy each other)
[07:18] <nosrednaekim> pacman_: get wlassistant
[07:18] <nosrednaekim> MaTiAz: just load vista first and everything should be fine
[07:18] <pussfeller> nope that locked it up too
[07:19] <nosrednaekim> pussfeller: odd... that works for me
[07:19] <pussfeller> it works from a term, but not from the menu
[07:20] <pussfeller> anyways, how do i undo what installing kubuntu-desktop did to my booting up splash screens and the gdm stuff not running anymore
[07:20] <nosrednaekim> pussfeller: "dpkg-reconfigure gdm"
[07:21] <pussfeller> i should have just installed kde
[07:21] <nosrednaekim> nah, you just should have selected gdm as your login manager
[07:21] <pacman_> okay, got it
[07:21] <nosrednaekim> pacman_: try loging on with that.
[07:21] <MaTiAz> nosrednaekim: Yeah, I'm on Vista ATM
[07:21] <pussfeller> altho, i think kdm is better looking
[07:21] <pacman_> still not working
[07:21] <MaTiAz> So I guess I'm good to go :)
[07:22] <nosrednaekim> pussfeller: I think so too
[07:22] <nosrednaekim> pacman_: ra-links should work without a problem.
[07:22] <pacman_> ra-links?
[07:22] <nosrednaekim> I'm not sure what the problem is.
[07:22] <nosrednaekim> pacman_: your chipset
[07:23] <pacman_> ah
[07:23] <pussfeller> thanks man
[07:23] <nosrednaekim> for what
[07:24] <nosrednaekim> pacman_: can you try taking off your encryption for a bit?
[07:24] <pacman_> yeah
[07:24] <ken> stdin: well... adept is reporting it BROKEN(Installed) and everything else related to compiz is uninstalled
[07:26] <stdin> Snake: I'm having a think about it
[07:26] <Snake> you do that
[07:26] <Snake> :P
[07:29] <nosrednaekim> pacman_: so take your encryption off and then try connecting with wlassistant
[07:29] <MaTiAz> Oh great, the partitioner can't partition my HDD :(
[07:30] <nosrednaekim> MaTiAz: you have to do it from within Vista
[07:30] <MaTiAz> nosrednaekim: ok
[07:31] <nosrednaekim> forgot to tell you tak
[07:31] <nosrednaekim> *that
[07:32] <underdog5004> level1__, ha ha, you still around?
[07:32] <MaTiAz> nosrednaekim: nah, no problem
[07:33] <MaTiAz> booting doesn't take too long :)
[07:33] <nosrednaekim> :)
[07:35] <pacman_> man, I keep playing with the settings and nothing is working
[07:35] <MaTiAz> done, back to Kubuntu again :D
[07:35] <pacman_> I had this issue before, and i don't remember how I fixed it
[07:36] <nosrednaekim> pacman_: hmm
[07:37] <stdin> Snake: I (may) have a way
[07:37] <Snake> stdin: shoot
[07:38] <Dr_willis> !ext3
[07:38] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[07:38] <stdin> Snake: wget http://stdin.110mb.com/compiz-gnome_1%3a0.5.1+git20070730~3v1ubuntu0_i386.txt
[07:38] <Snake> got it
[07:38] <Snake> actually
[07:38] <Snake> I got a 404.php
[07:38] <Snake> :P
[07:39] <danielklejnstrup> Er der nogle danske brugere her?
[07:39] <stdin> Snake: hold on ...
[07:39] <nosrednaekim> !de
[07:39] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:40] <MaTiAz> I doubt I need a swap partition when I have 2 gigs of RAM?
[07:40] <Snake> stdin: hurry, i have to leave in 5 :(
[07:40] <nosrednaekim> MaTiAz: put one on...
[07:41] <stdin> Snake: ok, wget http://stdin.110mb.com/compiz-gnome.txt
[07:41] <stdin> Snake: then, mv compiz-gnome.{txt,deb}
[07:41] <nosrednaekim> MaTiAz: if you have that much ram, I doubt you are running out of disc space ;)
[07:41] <stdin> Snake: then try installing that with dpkg, it's a dummy package, empty
[07:42] <Snake> stdin: again, 404 :(
[07:42] <MaTiAz> nosrednaekim: Well, I have a 400GB disk :) I guess one gig will do?
[07:42] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[07:42] <Snake> there we go
[07:42] <Snake> stdin: got it
[07:43] <Snake> hrm
[07:43] <Snake> stdin:
[07:43] <Snake> dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 250
[07:43] <Snake> dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...
[07:43] <Snake> dpkg: error processing compiz-gnome.deb (--install):
[07:43] <Snake>  there is no script in the new version of the package - giving up
[07:43] <MaTiAz> So what's the difference between primary and logical partitions?
[07:43] <Snake> Little bit too smart eh?
[07:43] <Dr_willis> Primaries are primary, you can have 4 primary total on a hd.
[07:44] <Dr_willis> logicals live in side 'extended' partitions.
[07:44] <Dr_willis> of which you can have a large # of logicals.
[07:44] <stdin> Snake: does "/var/lib/dpkg/info/compiz-gnome.postrm" still have "exit 0" in it?
[07:44] <Dr_willis> when in doubt. use primaries . Unless you need a lot of partitions
[07:44] <MaTiAz> Dr_willis: Ok thanks, I doubt I'll be having any more partitions on this disk
[07:45] <Snake> stdin: nope, it didnt, hang on ill add that and re-run
[07:45] <Snake> AH HA
[07:45] <Snake> It set it up!
[07:45] <stdin> Snake: ok, now you can purge it :p
[07:45] <Snake> stdin: I shoudl be able to remove now right?
[07:45] <Snake> :)
[07:45] <Snake> oh my god
[07:45] <Snake> stdin: your a genious
[07:45] <Snake> :P
[07:45] <stdin> man that's a was the long way round :p
[07:45] <Snake> lol
[07:46] <Snake> stdin: thanks a lot man, just in time, im runnin out the door
[07:46] <Snake> cya
[07:46] <Snake> :)
[07:46] <stdin> Snake: cya :)
[07:46] <MaTiAz> Yay, installing Kubuntu again \:D/
[07:46] <MaTiAz> I bet Beryl will run absolutely fine now :D
[07:46] <nosrednaekim> betcha it won
[07:46] <nosrednaekim> it never does when you want it to
[07:47] <x89x> can anyone help me with 3d drivers ?
[07:47] <Biovore> !nvidia
[07:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:47] <x89x> its openchrome
[07:47] <MaTiAz> nosrednaekim: lol, I can at least hope so :D
[07:48] <nosrednaekim> x89x: oh man... don't even bother
[07:48] <MaTiAz> wtf, cat /proc/cpuinfo gives me the clockspeeds of 2664 and 1998 MHz, I have an Intel Core 2 Duo E6750
[07:48] <MaTiAz> Is it supposed to run the other core at lower speed?
[07:48] <nosrednaekim> x89x: go get a cheap $30 nvidia card
[07:48] <nosrednaekim> MaTiAz: sweet indepenent frequency scaling
[07:48] <lnxkde> xine wont run mp3s...
[07:49] <MaTiAz> nosrednaekim: ah :>
[07:49] <lnxkde> and I installed extracodecs..
[07:49] <nosrednaekim> wish my turion had that
[07:49] <lnxkde> what else shopuld I install?
[07:49] <lnxkde> should*
[07:49] <nosrednaekim> lnxkde: what should do it
[07:49] <lnxkde> I was working yesterday...
[07:49] <lnxkde> it*
[07:49] <x89x> nosrednaekim : but whats the problem with 3D drivers ? I did the 2D part. But am having problem with 3D
[07:49] <lnxkde> it* was working yesterday and today kapuff no mp3s!
[07:50] <nosrednaekim> x89x: you have to recompile the kernel.... do a whole bunch of not-so-fun stuff
[07:51] <stdin> you don't have to recompile the kernel, just compile the right driver https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
[07:51] <lnxkde> what especific codec works with mp3s in xine?
[07:51] <lnxkde> mad? lame?
[07:51] <x89x> stdin i did that
[07:52] <nosrednaekim> mad
[07:52] <x89x> but am having problems with 3 D part
[07:52] <x89x> stdin. you were there that day helping me right !
[07:52] <stdin> yeah, but I don't remember how far you got
[07:52] <MaTiAz> Wonder if Wine will run Unreal Tournament now with FPS > 0.5 :)
[07:52] <x89x> i did the 2D part
[07:53] <x89x> you told about some screen saver stdin
[07:53] <x89x> from the konsole
[07:53] <stdin> screen saver?
[07:53] <nosrednaekim> stdin: ah someone made a nice little tutorial for it since I last tried
[07:53] <nosrednaekim> maybe i'll try it.
[07:54] <x89x> when i run glxinfo | grep render it says direct rendering: Yes
[07:54] <cplusplus2> does someone know this postmark benchmarking tool????????????
[07:54] <cplusplus2> i need to install it for kubuntu!
[07:54] <Biovore> MaTiAz: why run Unreal in wine.. it has a native port for linux..
[07:54] <cplusplus2> but i only saw a debian package
[07:54] <x89x> direct rendering: Yes. but the screen sticks for a secon stdin
[07:54] <MaTiAz> Biovore: I know, but I don't have the installer CD's :(
[07:54] <stdin> hmm
[07:54] <MaTiAz> I only have it installed on my PC
[07:55] <MaTiAz> But of course the CD's are in a place where the sun won't shine
[07:55] <MaTiAz> or something
[07:55] <MaTiAz> Now to boot into my fresh installation :>
[07:55] <x89x> and when i open the screen saver option, the screen sticks like hell ! stdin
[07:55] <Biovore> MaTiAz: If you got a key.. just download a torrent of the disks..
[07:55] <stdin> x89x: maybe the people in #xorg know something, I think they are the ones who develop it
[07:56] <x89x> i'll try it
[07:56] <x89x> thanks
[07:56] <lnxkde> there is no demuxer plugin available to handle /file.mp3
[07:56] <lnxkde> I get that error
[07:56] <stdin> lnxkde: installed mp3 support ? libxine-extracodecs ?
[07:57] <lnxkde> yep
[07:57] <lnxkde> stdin: mp3s were working yesterday and last night they stoped working...
[07:57] <stdin> hmm
[07:58] <lnxkde> uninstalled all xine things and re installed
[07:58] <lnxkde> and the same thing happens
[07:58] <lnxkde> :/
[08:00] <lnxkde> stdin: what is the codec that libxine-extracodecs use for mp3s?
[08:00] <lnxkde> libmad, lame?
[08:00] <lnxkde> mpg321?
[08:01] <lnxkde> :D
[08:01] <nosrednaekim> see what extracodecs depends on
[08:01] <lnxkde> libmad0
[08:01] <lnxkde> time to re install and see
[08:01] <stdin> in feisty it seems to be an ffmpeg lib
[08:02] <MaTiAz> !nvidia
[08:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:02] <soulrider> does anyone here know any python? people int he python channel seem to be all dead =/
[08:02] <lnxkde> st uninstalled all that and still
[08:02] <lnxkde> Ls
[08:03] <lnxkde> :s
[08:03] <lnxkde> (&()$%)(%$)%
[08:03] <frausch> hello
[08:03] <vistakiller> for nvidia driver try envy script
[08:03] <nosrednaekim> soulrider: I know a little
[08:04] <nosrednaekim> hello frausch
[08:04] <soulrider> nosrednaekim, i have a list of lists and i wanna sort those sub lists from the first element onwards, i want to keep the first element in each sublist there
[08:04] <soulrider> i wrote this line: lines = [elem[:1]  + elem[1:] .sort() for elem in lines] 
[08:06] <nosrednaekim> for list in lists: x.append(list[0] )
[08:06] <nosrednaekim> and x is your new list of all the first values of the sub lists... is that what you wanted?
[08:07] <soulrider> uhm
[08:07] <soulrider> let me try
[08:07] <MaTiAz> hmm, I forgot how I set up my nvidia driver last time :x
[08:07] <nosrednaekim> MaTiAz: "sudo apt-get restricted-manager"
[08:07] <nosrednaekim> and then "kdesu restricted-manager"
[08:08] <MaTiAz> nosrednaekim: thanks
[08:08] <nosrednaekim> thats what I find to be easiest
[08:08] <MaTiAz> Good thing 8800GTS is supported :>
[08:09] <nicolai_> nosrednaekim: yuo mean "sudo apt-get install restricted-manager"?
[08:09] <nosrednaekim> indeed... sorry
[08:10] <nicolai_> nosrednaekim: well it does say apt _get_ :)
[08:10] <MaTiAz> :)
[08:10] <nosrednaekim> lol
[08:12] <level1__> underdog5004: hey
[08:12] <level1__> underdog5004: your email didn't work last night
[08:13] <cplusplus2> how could i set the root passwort under kubuntu?
[08:13] <cplusplus2> i never did it...i just installed it now!
[08:13] <tfreire_> got my way around installing compiz-fusion on 2 older machines (using radeon 9600). compiz eye-candy dwarves my Vista Aero glass interface...  unfortunately mya shining new travelmate 8210 w/ radeon x1600 does not have the support for it.
[08:14] <cplusplus2> and i am logged in as user now!
[08:14] <cplusplus2> ??????
[08:15] <stdin> !sudo | cplusplus2
[08:15] <nosrednaekim> cplusplus2: "sudo passwd root"
[08:15] <nosrednaekim> but its really uneccesary
[08:15] <ubotu> cplusplus2: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:15] <stdin> cplusplus2: you DON'T need a root pass
[08:15] <underdog5004> level1__, it's computingsolutionsbiz@gmail.com, not computersolutionsbiz
[08:17] <MaTiAz> Weird
[08:17] <MaTiAz> Kubuntu doesn't boot anymore
[08:18] <MaTiAz> First reboot after installing nvidia driver -> got stuck in shutdown procedure, and when booting I got a kernel panic, second reboot -> gets stuck on blank screen with blinking cursos
[08:18] <MaTiAz> *cursor
[08:18] <MaTiAz> I doubt it's the driver though
[08:18] <MaTiAz> The LiveCD had the exact same problem, it got stuck when I was going to reboot
[08:19] <nosrednaekim> MaTiAz: reovery mode?
[08:20] <MaTiAz> nosrednaekim: I gotta try that
[08:22] <lnxkde> :'(
[08:22] <cplusplus2> sudo passwd root okok
[08:23] <draik> Is there a way to disable root (su and sudo)?
[08:24] <trekdanne> visudo
[08:24] <cplusplus2> nosrednaekim its working;)
[08:24] <cplusplus2> i only tried su before;)
[08:24] <nosrednaekim> draik: only to individual users.
[08:24] <nosrednaekim> thats what you want right?
[08:24] <draik> nosrednaekim: Hey, it's been a while. Yes, that is what I meant.
[08:25] <nosrednaekim> I think users added after the first user are actually denied the ability to sudo. If not, remove them from the admin and sudo groups
[08:29] <MaTiAz> nosrednaekim: Ok, I'm now in the recovery mode
[08:29] <MaTiAz> X doesn't start, there's an error with the nvidia driver
[08:29] <draik> nosrednaekim: Ah. Good to know. Thank you much
[08:29] <MaTiAz> ugh, this textmode font is seriously hurting my eyes :D
[08:29] <nosrednaekim> MaTiAz: and what is the error?
[08:29] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[08:30] <MaTiAz> nosrednaekim: uhm, how to copypaste in textmode? :D
[08:30] <nosrednaekim> MaTiAz: just tell me what it looks like.
[08:30] <draik> Shift+insert = paste
[08:30] <draik> Ctrl+insert=copy
[08:31] <draik> Or just right-click
[08:31] <vistakiller> Matiaz sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:31] <vistakiller> give this to reconfigure your xserver
[08:31] <draik> or highlight and middle-click (L+R together)
[08:31] <vistakiller> then try to get the envy script to install the driver
[08:32] <draik> vistakiller: Doesn't envy mess up with the xserver and nvidia/ati drivers?
[08:32] <vistakiller> no
[08:32] <vistakiller> is working fine to me
[08:32] <MaTiAz> The error message is somewhat "Failed to open device file /dev/nvidia0"
[08:33] <MaTiAz> I'm not good at remembering things :x
[08:33] <draik> vistakiller: it was a mess with Beryl and I was told it was bad for the drivers or something so I removed it and did the other install for my nvidia driver nvidia-glx-new
[08:33] <vistakiller> I work with beryl and i still have no problem
[08:34] <draik> Must be in the configurations of it all
[08:34] <vistakiller> Matiaz sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:34] <draik> vistakiller: I'm not calling you out or anything, just a statement/inquiry.
[08:38] <MaTiAz> vistakiller: didn't help, but I'm sure I fubared the most questions anyway
[08:38] <MaTiAz> I guess I'll have to try a reinstall :|
[08:40] <vistakiller> anyway you can try this http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[08:40] <vistakiller> i have try many times with no problem
[08:50] <Pupeno> does anybody know the name of that program that works as a wrapper of another program that has a prompt, adding the niceness of readline?
[08:58] <Briareos1> my kmail keeps forgetting about the "keep answers in this folder" option - what could be the cause? (it's not everytime i restart kmail but sometimes it's that way and i have to configure it again .....)
[08:58] <nixternal> keep answers in this folder? can you elaborate a little more on that?
[08:59] <seth> I think the American version is "save replies in this folder", nixternal
[08:59] <nixternal> ahh
[08:59] <draik> Ok. I just installed Kubuntu Feisty on my friend's laptop. Why can't it go online?
[08:59] <knowledge25k> hello can somebody help me
[09:00] <pacman_> hmm
[09:00] <vistakiller> hmm..
[09:00] <stdin> draik: no one here is psychic, we'll need more information than that
[09:00] <nixternal> ahh, properties on a folder itself 'keep replies in this folder'
[09:02] <araizen> i chose to do a console log in at the log in screen. how can i get back to the graphical login screen now?
[09:02] <draik> I installed Feisty on my friend's laptop. Fresh install. I run konqueror. Fine, it opens. I go to www.google.com and it comes up with this error: An error occurred while loading http://google.com. Unknown host google.com
[09:02] <draik> araizen: CTRL+ALT+F7
[09:02] <zimmo> is there any console command to change to the session "user/password" before the x11 starts?
[09:02] <araizen> draik: there is probably a problem with the network connection
[09:02] <araizen> draik: no ctrl+alt-f7 doesn't work, tried that
[09:03] <draik> Then "startx"
[09:03] <araizen> startx allows me to start x up with kde, but i stay logged in at the old shell
[09:03] <Briareos1> nixternal: yep - it's german here :)
[09:03] <nixternal> Briareos1: that issue is a known KMail bug...unfortunately it hasn't yet been fixed
[09:03] <araizen> is there away to just go bac kto the original graphical login
[09:03] <nixternal> Briareos1: they say it only occurs after a crash of KMail..is this true for you?
[09:03] <zimmo> araizen: how can I get back to the session login screen VIA CONSOLE?
[09:04] <araizen> zimmo: that's my question
[09:04] <Briareos1> nixternal: yes - can be - it crashed today when i switched to "scim" input method ....
[09:05] <nixternal> Briareos1: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115464
[09:05] <araizen> i mean, i know i can reboot, and i'm sure that would work
[09:05] <nixternal> Briareos1: it is sad, that bug is 2 years old and no result to date...this is the one thing that tends to strike a nerve
[09:05] <araizen> but i wanted to do it without rebooting
[09:05] <nixternal> well, almost 2 years
[09:06] <araizen> zimmo: if you don't mind rebooting, try 'shutdown -r now', i think
[09:06] <zimmo> ah thank you
[09:06] <zimmo> moment
[09:07] <araizen> make that 'sudo shutdown -r now'
[09:07] <Briareos1> nixternal yeah :(
[09:08] <nixternal> Briareos1: w/o kmail crashing, how do you like that option? Mailody uses a similar option it seem by default..but Mailody is IMAP only, and simply amazing at the same time
[09:08] <jenny_> will IE wk in kubuntu
[09:08] <nixternal> jenny_: not natively
[09:08] <nixternal> there are scripts to allow you to run it though, you can search http://ubuntuforums.org for the one script
[09:09] <nixternal> I have no experience with it though, so that is about as much help as I can be
[09:09] <nixternal> I wish I could remember the developers name so it might make searching a little easier
[09:10] <nixternal> jenny_: and that would be for IE6 only that I know of
[09:10] <nixternal> jenny_: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[09:10] <nixternal> there you go...
[09:12] <Briareos1> nixternal: i like the option a lot :) but i have no imaps
[09:13] <nixternal> I will poke a KDE-PIM dev and see if there is any status on that bug whatsoever
[09:13] <draik> I have gone through the manual configuration and restarted. I still cannot get the laptop to go online. Any ideas?
[09:15] <jitendra> can anyone tell me a GUI base partition tool
[09:15] <stdin> jitendra: gaprted or qtparted (most say gparted is more stable)
[09:15] <jitendra> thanks stdin
[09:15] <stdin> not gaprted, gparted :p
[09:18] <nixternal> I have heard the same about gparted being better than qtparted..but I have never tried either.. fdisk works miracles :)
[09:18] <nixternal> and not windows fdisk either :)
[09:20] <stdin> I'm not sure qtparted is less stable anymore, the kubuntu-devs put a lot of work in to it for the live installer
[09:21] <squidy> Hello.. when i try to play a video with more than one audio channel in kaffeine it plays just the primary audio... at the audio selection i only see "auto" and some blank spaces..
[09:21] <nixternal> ahh, forgot about that..I just used it yesterday for the first time in a while, and I will admit it has gotten better
[09:21] <tfreire_> I have a 6-drive system which I am trying to move to Ubuntu. 4 of these drives are on-board, on a Gentoo raid+lvm setup (4x200GB, 600GB rAID5) with crucial data I can't loose. the other 2 are400GB on a pci controller.
[09:21] <tfreire_> on the 6th drive (on he pci card) I insalld ubuntu to start teh migration
[09:21] <nixternal> oh wow, I would hate to be in that position
[09:21] <squidy> could someone help me?
[09:21] <tfreire_> but it wont boot, it can't find the root partition
[09:22] <MaTiAz> vistakiller: Thanks for the link to envy, it works now :)
[09:22] <vistakiller> i know :)
[09:22] <tfreire_> I need help to make ubuntu look for the pci controller and find it on boot.
[09:23] <jenny_> nixternal: the link was blank
[09:23] <tfreire_> the installation livecd found it, it should be able to find it on normal boot too...
[09:24] <nixternal> jenny_: what link was that? I am looking at the IEs4Linux website right now..you can just google IEs4Linux and it will take you to what you are looking for
[09:31] <jenny_> need the link again
[09:31] <jenny_> had to reboot
[09:31] <MaTiAz> wow
[09:32] <MaTiAz> UT runs a bit too well in Wine :D
[09:32] <jenny_> nixternal?
[09:33] <chals> hi my task baar disapear,, help
[09:35] <jenny_> you busy nixternal?
[09:36] <jenny_> drats, had to reboot before i could bookmark the page that makes IE work in Kubuntu
[09:36] <jenny_> anyone else know the link?
[09:36] <seth> one sec
[09:36] <seth> http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[09:37] <jenny_> oh awesome thank you so much
[09:37] <seth> cheers
[09:39] <jenny_> seth: that is exactly what i needed. i prefer using terminal
[09:40] <jenny_> seth: it said permission denied, whats that all about
[09:41] <seth> dunno, but http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/download.html works
[09:42] <kubunturf> hello
[09:45] <vistakiller> hi
[09:47] <chals> hi some know how lunch kde manager from konsole
[09:48] <jenny_> seth: do i save it somewhere or open
[09:49] <seth> i'd save it jenny_, and then keep using terminal
[09:49] <jenny_> seth: where should i save it, desktop?
[09:50] <seth> a m'est egal
[09:50] <seth> er, doesn't matter
[09:50] <fdoving> chals: what do you mean, kde manager?
[09:51] <fdoving> chals: kde window manager? kde control center?
[09:51] <leech> hi all, can I get some help installing kubuntu on my LSI 320-2E megaraid scsi card?
[09:51] <chals> i don know, some tellme,   the problemm is that the taskbar disapear
[09:53] <chals> the taskbar is configurated to hide inmediatly, but it don appear anymore
[09:53] <Littleboots> you tried restarting x to see it will come back up?
[09:53] <Littleboots> ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:54] <kubunturf> i have some graphical problem with wine can someone help me ?
[09:54] <chals> i restart the pc and when im sesion no appear the taskbar
[09:55] <fdoving> chals: can you hit alt+f2 and get the run command dialog?
[09:55] <chals> i have the konkeror and the konsole
[09:57] <fdoving> chals: ok, in the konsole you can use 'kcmshell panel' to get to the configuration where you set it to hide or not.
[09:57] <fdoving> chals: then you can try 'dcop kicker kicker restart' to restart the panel at the bottom (named kicker)
[10:11] <stopburningme> why do all these people leave at the same time?
[10:12] <stopburningme> i want to be on the team!
[10:12] <stdin> because they are all the same person :p
[10:12] <stdin> (not really)
[10:13] <acleanitsilentpe> where can i get kubuntu certifiation?
[10:13] <acleanitsilentpe> online?
[10:15] <marvsilence> can i get linux certification online?
[10:15] <stdin> google it?
[10:16] <marvsilence> sure
[10:17] <Briareos1> nixternal: i am right now looking at mailody - thanks for the hints - could be really an alternative for me as far as is see atm
[10:27] <jenny_> seth: it said to uncomment or add:   deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe
[10:27] <jenny_> when i did nothin happened
[10:28] <jenny_> seth: i copied and pasted  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list into terminal
[10:28] <jenny_> it didnt do anything so i did sudo bash then pasted in all but the sudo part
[10:30] <stdin> jenny_: 1) you have to run "sudo apt-get update" after you change the sources.list, 2) that's a gnome command, you want "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[10:30] <jenny_> oh so i was changing somethin when i did that
[10:30] <stdin> it adds a package repository to the sources
[10:32] <jenny_> stdinL after i type sudo apt-get update i type kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list right
[10:37] <Gun_Smoke> Man... Kubuntu gave me nothing but problems..
[10:37] <nixternal> what kind of problems?
[10:38] <Gun_Smoke> 1st lost keys 12347890 !@#$&*()
[10:38] <nixternal> interesting
[10:39] <marvsilence> how many kids use drugs and use computers?
[10:39] <Gun_Smoke> Which wouldn't let me sudo anything because _ is in a pw...
[10:39] <[IT] 4ngelus> what do you mean with lost?
[10:39] <marvsilence> is kubuntu a nice system to smoke the pot to ?
[10:39] <nixternal> ahh, you know what, I have experienced something similar int he past
[10:39] <Gun_Smoke> press "1" and get no response.
[10:39] <nixternal> Gun_Smoke: has a reboot fixed it?
[10:39] <Gun_Smoke> same with say <shift><4> for $ and nothing.
[10:40] <Gun_Smoke> nixternal: No,  I have no idea what fixed it.  I did nothing..
[10:40] <nixternal> is this on a laptop?
[10:40] <Gun_Smoke> No
[10:41] <Gun_Smoke> Next problem..
[10:41] <Gun_Smoke> If I tried to just log out, it seem to start shutting down or rebooting, then hang a black screen with a blinking _ and nothing else..
[10:42] <Gun_Smoke> Left is at that screen for 1hr with no results.. Had to hard reboot.
[10:43] <nixternal> dem0n don't make it obvious
[10:43] <Gun_Smoke> ?
[10:43] <nixternal> nadda
[10:44] <Gun_Smoke> Welp.. I have to run off to work for a bit.. Back around 10ish if you want to try to figure some of this out.
[10:45] <nixternal> I should be around...if not I, there are many I hope :)
[10:45] <draik> How do I modify the /etc/sudoers file so that it doesn't ask me for my password when root needs to be done?
[10:45] <nixternal> don't work to hard
[10:45] <Gun_Smoke> Never..  easy night..
[10:53] <imagine> Hi, I'm trying to checkout a svn repo but it doesn't work on my laptop (Feisty) but it works fine on my SuSE box.. any idea on how this could happen? here's the error msg: svn: PROPFIND of '/discover': 301 Moved Permanently (http://discoverkde.disturbing-mind.net)
[10:55] <jenny_> stdin: i put it into terminal and it spat this out at me:
[10:55] <jenny_> [root@oco ~] # kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:55] <jenny_> Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[10:55] <jenny_> /usr/bin/iceauth:  creating new authority file /root/.ICEauthority
[10:55] <jenny_> Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[10:55] <jenny_> kbuildsycoca running...
[10:55] <jenny_> kio (KService*): WARNING: The desktop entry file /usr/share/applications/DefaultPlugins.desktop has Type=Link instead of "Application" or "Service"
[10:55] <jenny_> kio (KService*): WARNING: Invalid Service : /usr/share/applications/DefaultPlugins.desktop
[10:55] <jenny_> kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[10:55] <jenny_> Invalid entry (missing '=') at /tmp/kde-root/kconf_update4qHSca.tmp:1
[10:55] <jenny_> Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[10:55] <jenny_> whoops didnt know it would take so much room when i pasted that sorry
[10:55] <vzduch> !pastebin | jenny_
[10:55] <ubotu> jenny_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:55] <stdin> jenny_: that's because you are root, type "exit" first (and don't flood :) )
[10:58] <draik> !redhat
[10:58] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[10:58] <draik> !linux
[10:58] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[11:00] <jenny_> what is flood
[11:00] <jenny_> still learnin whats what
[11:01] <jenny_> typed exit then typed "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" into prompt
[11:01] <jenny_> it said:  kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list: No such file or directory
[11:02] <vzduch> jenny_: not in the terminal, hit Alt+F2 and type it there
[11:02] <level1> !nvidia
[11:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:02] <stdin> jenny_: flood is when you post a large amount of text in to a channel in a short time, and take off the quotes in the command
[11:02] <jenny_> oh i just read what flood is
[11:02] <jenny_> oh ok
[11:03] <jenny_> oh not in terminal?
[11:03] <stdin> you can put it in a terminal, or press Alt-F2 and put it in ther
[11:03] <vzduch> does the terminal take kdesu?
[11:04] <stdin> yes :p
[11:04] <jenny_> i did it and im lookin at a list
[11:04] <jenny_> sources.list
[11:04] <jenny_> what do i do with it
[11:08] <vzduch> jenny_: what were you about to do that stdin told you to do it?
[11:08] <jenny_> tryin to follow instructions on this page:  http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Installation:Ubuntu
[11:09] <level1> Hi, I used the restricted driver manager to activate the nvidia driver, but X didn't start.  I'm looking for an error in Xorg.0.log... can anyone advise?  I'm on an nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS.
[11:09] <jenny_> tryin to get IE so that wine can run juno, juno said i had to have IE to make it work
[11:09] <level1> (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[11:10] <level1> jenny_: you can't work around it with an other browser?  Firefox and konqueror both have technologies to trick websites into thinking they're IE.
[11:10] <draik> Anyone here using VMware Server?
[11:11] <vzduch> level1: to my knowledge there is still no driver (at least not from the repos) for Linux that supports the 8800
[11:11] <vzduch> !anyone | draik
[11:11] <ubotu> draik: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:11] <level1> vzduch: according to the ubuntu websites its supported
[11:12] <level1> vzduch: also, the nvidia website has such drivers
[11:12] <jenny_> lets see what happens when i try to open with FF
[11:12] <draik> VMware Server doesn't seem to start. I see the bouncing icon next to my cursor, but that's it. It goes away and VMware Server doesn't display/run
[11:12] <jenny_> nuthin happened
[11:12] <Assid> hey anyone here using beagle search ?
[11:12] <nosrednaekim> vzduch: yes there is... the 100 series
[11:13] <nosrednaekim> draik: start it from the command line
[11:13] <nosrednaekim> and look for errors
[11:13] <level1> This error is from Xorg.0.log.old:  (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[11:13] <vzduch> here VMware Server runs w/o a problem
[11:13] <draik> nosrednaekim: You mean something like this:   bash: vmware-server: command not found
[11:14] <level1> I'm using a bit of an old screen, should I try it on a newer screen?
[11:14] <nosrednaekim> do "vm*press tab here*"
[11:14] <draik> It was working just fine yesterday. I closed the server and when I came back to it later, it wouldn't run.
[11:14] <jenny_> level:  it said the associated helper doesnt exist
[11:15] <nosrednaekim> it may not be called vmware-server
[11:15] <draik> Hmmm
[11:15] <draik> Quite a bit here
[11:15] <jenny_> its a set up EXE file
[11:15] <nosrednaekim> maybe thats ActiveX.
[11:15] <jenny_> crud gotta go or i will be late to work
[11:15] <jenny_> i will work on this when i get back later
[11:15] <Assid> hrmm
[11:15] <jenny_> thanks for your help guys, its appreciated@
[11:15] <nosrednaekim> oh, well in that case...
[11:16] <nosrednaekim> draik: I know vmware player is called vm-player
[11:17] <nosrednaekim> so maybe vm-server?
[11:17] <draik> bash: vm-server: command not found
[11:18] <nosrednaekim> sorry,idn't see your PM
[11:19] <trekdanne> has anyone played GW with wine? it's supposed to work, but i dont get any mouse cursor
[11:20] <nosrednaekim> GW?
[11:20] <trekdanne> Guild Wars
[11:20] <nosrednaekim> oh....IDK, try #winehq
[11:21] <trekdanne> oh thanks
[11:27] <yeniklasor> Do you know any hard drive defrag app ? my computer does slow...
[11:31] <pingveno> I've been having trouble for a while with Amarok not playing aiff files.
[11:31] <pingveno> I get the error: No suitable demux plugin.
[11:32] <Assid> yeniklasor: not sure you can even drefrag on linux
[11:33] <nixternal> !libaudiofile0 | pingveno
[11:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libaudiofile0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:33] <nixternal> err
[11:33] <nixternal> sorry about that
[11:33] <nixternal> !info libaudiofile0
[11:33] <ubotu> libaudiofile0: Open-source version of SGI's audiofile library. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.6-6ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 74 kB, installed size 228 kB
[11:33] <nixternal> pingveno: ^^ have you tried that?
[11:33] <pingveno> don't think I have
[11:33] <nixternal> first time I have ever heard of an aiff file
[11:34] <pingveno> just a sec, i'm looking at it
[11:34] <pingveno> it's already installed
[11:34] <nixternal> pingveno: I can't guarantee anything, but that is what I found for aiff files in the repos
[11:34] <nixternal> well then...dunno
[11:35] <pingveno> nixternal: it's a lossless audio format
[11:35] <nixternal> pingveno: you can ask in #amarok to see if they might know more about it
[11:35] <DrHalan> can somebody help me? i try to set my root password :S
[11:35] <toostrong_2851> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?uid=2851
[11:35] <nixternal> I am an audio dummy..I just convert to ogg and that's about it :)
[11:35] <pingveno> nixternal: k, i'll take a look
[11:35] <pingveno> I'm pretty close to that
[11:35] <pingveno> this is the first time I've seen an aiff file
[11:36] <vzduch> AIFF is the Sun PCM format
[11:42] <romain> bsoir
[11:44] <zakk_> I have problems!
[11:44] <Briareos1> can i tell firefox to use a specific audio-device for flash?
[11:45] <Briareos1> sometimes i get sound on the headset, sometimes from the onboard-audiodev, sometimes no sound ...
[11:46] <stdin> Briareos1: don't think so, it will normally just use the default ALSA sets
[11:46] <jellybear> hi there
[11:49] <jellybear> need help: since feisty my alsa channels seem to be strangely remapped. what is supposed to be the headphone channel comes out on pc speaker (in mono quality), the front channel seems to go nowhere... searched the internet on 'remap alsa channels' and your website above, tried to fiddle around with kde and alsamixer, but to no avail. any ideas?
[11:50] <Briareos1> stdin: hmm so can't say - like i have in mplayer for example: alsa:device=plug=hw=Headset
[11:50] <Briareos1> ?
[11:50] <stdin> Briareos1: no, firefox isn't that advanced (not yet anyway)
[11:51] <vzduch> that'd be a function of the flashplayer anyway, not of the browser
[11:51] <Briareos1> stdin: and via the flash-plugin itself also not? like maybe one of the about:config entries ...
[11:51] <stdin> Briareos1: possible, but I've never looked. I'd ask on the #firefox channel on irc.mozilla.org
[11:52] <Briareos1> stdin: thx for that!
[11:53] <mikes> I've done something very stupid and killed the KDE manager/taskbar etc. How do I get it back?
[11:53] <solarwaver> lokas kane /server thales.irc.gr
[11:53] <solarwaver> lokas /join #hellas
[11:53] <stdin> Briareos1: just don't hold your breath for a responce, last time I went there it took 10 mins for a responce
[11:53] <jellybear> mikes: open a shell and type kicker
[11:53] <stdin> !spam | solarwaver
[11:53] <ubotu> solarwaver: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[11:53] <mikes> Thanks jellybear, it worked :)
[11:54] <jellybear> mikes: easy one ;)
[11:54] <solarwaver> ok
[11:54] <lokas> #join#hellas
[11:54] <solarwaver> oxi /join kai to ypoliopo
[11:56] <NickPresta> Does anyone know of an easy way to grab the bitrate of an audio file from the command line? Currently, I am using mplayer -identify. Any other methods?
[11:57] <stdin> NickPresta: with some formats 'file' will tell you
[11:58] <NickPresta> stdin, I figured that and tried it first but it seems to report inaccurate bitrates (when compared to Amarok or mplayer -identify).
[12:00] <NickPresta> stdin, essentially, I want to iterate over a directory of audio files and create an output file listing the bitrates of each song in descending order. I know how to do everything but get the bitrates. I thought mplayer -nosound -identify would work well but -nosound doesn't seem to work.
[12:00] <blekos> hello guys, i have installed ie4linux
[12:00] <stdin> it depends on what filetypes
[12:01] <blekos> but when i open it there is an "h" in the address bar,
[12:01] <bodlytoo> NickPresta: why not just do a query on your amarok database?
[12:01] <blekos> i deleted and when i write an address thew letters turn to ?
[12:01] <blekos> any ideas?
[12:02] <blekos> i think it has to do with the latest wine upgrades
[12:02] <stdin> blekos: you'll have to ask in #winehq
[12:03] <NickPresta> bodlytoo, I could do that too (I will probably end up doing that) but then that would require the audio to be tied into amarok and I want to make this as loose as possible.
[12:04] <MaTiAz> Wow, Unreal Tournament 2004 runs really well on Linux .o
[12:04] <MaTiAz> *:o
[12:04] <bodlytoo> NickPresta: seems like that would be the easiest way, if not the most portable.
[12:06] <solarwaver> is anyone knows what is it tosicnapix?
[12:10] <solarwaver> is anyone knows what is it tosicnapix?
[12:12] <stdin> solarwaver: no
[12:12] <luca> hi everyone
[12:12] <luca> I am trying out the new kde4
[12:12] <luca> does someone know how to enable composite kwin?