=== tehk [n=tehk@c-69-249-157-157.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:34] WOW...more common than I thought === grumpymole [n=warren@c58-109-125-122.lowrp2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:34] SOLVED: 1440x900 monitor sync frequencies locking up. [12:34] Did the location of web files change? I placed my drupal install in /var/www/test/drupal and try to navigate to it at 127.0.0.1/test/drupal/ and I get a 404 [12:38] ok...here's my take...if decent sync range and video card detection result in hard lockup of system during LIVECD AND FIRST INSTALL...that will definitely detract from the legions who have come to see Ubuntu as leading in the [12:39] ... [12:39] "Easy to setup and use" category of Linux distros [12:40] and Mind you, I'm using a basic setup...Nvidia GeforceFX AGP card with a widescreen LCD, Viewsonic 19" === ffer [n=ffer@pool-71-105-94-169.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:41] I'm not gonna start screaming for fixes yet, but if it took ME some troubleshooting from ACPI down to just X by itself, that's gonna be hard for "newbies" to deal with. [12:43] or am I way off base here (since you've heard it all before) === dalibor [n=topic@dslb-084-058-211-180.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jkimball4 [n=jerrid@ip24-252-32-248.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:45] hi, i'm trying to get gutsy installed to a box, but it just bangs out at the beginning to abusybox shell [12:46] looking at casper.log tells me that it can't find a medium containing a live file system [12:46] though it seems to fail to find a medium in all the drives it tries. [12:46] any idea? [12:46] hum... seem to be having some problems with my network... dhcp or manually setting it up does not work in gutsy... also feisty install cd does that same, but... Feisty itself works fine... [12:46] ... trying here to see if anyone knows what's different before I start digging... === grumpymole [n=warren@c58-109-125-122.lowrp2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === HyperCity [n=HyperCit@host84-146-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu+1 === dalibor [n=topic@dslb-084-058-211-180.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #ubuntu+1 === linoleum [n=linoleum@202.171.164.19] has joined #ubuntu+1 === marek` [n=keram`@131.179.144.197] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:07] ok... it maybe the use of discover1, discover1-data .... but it does see the built on network and it does load the module for it... === ffer looks for more clues... === cyphase [n=cyphase@adsl-69-109-174-224.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip70-177-204-60.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === hijjt [n=hijjt@cpe-71-79-139-208.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:24] Is amarok broken right now? [01:26] python qt is broke [01:26] actually [01:26] probably just awaiting an update, a few things need it [01:26] amarok being one of them i believe [01:27] it's annoying [01:27] the last dist-upgrade removed amarok [01:27] if i kill amarok, i lose it [01:27] :P [01:27] not as annoying as not being able to boot without all_generic_ide === lockd [n=Michael@adsl-0-39-79.shv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:27] I think fix has been committed since === emilia [n=emilia@modemcable175.75-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:28] but have not shown up in the repositories since [01:28] hey guys, im trying to use 2 accounts on my laptop, but when i switch users the touchpad and mouse stop working [01:28] if i switch back to the account i logged into first it works again === _jason [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:31] emilia, which is the core pointer? [01:32] hijjt, sorry i dont understant [01:32] hijjt, the main one? [01:33] hijjt, there's 2, the touchpad, and the red button one [01:33] in the xorg.conf there is an option for always core, is one set to that? [01:33] ill check [01:34] Option "CorePointer" [01:34] Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" [01:34] does the other sendcoreevents [01:35] Identifier "Synaptics Touchpad" [01:35] Driver "synaptics" [01:35] Option "SendCoreEvents" "true" === ToHellWithGA [n=ryan@d15-254.rt2-bras.clm.centurytel.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Oh] [01:36] in the serverlayout section make the identifier of the /dev/input/mice one have always core === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:37] and have the Synaptics Touchpad , something like InputDevice "Synaptics TouchPad" "SendCoreEvents" [01:38] that may help... or are you using kdm or gdm [01:38] GDM [01:38] errrr gdm [01:40] hmm, === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:41] are you completely logging off each time [01:41] no, switching user [01:41] itll always work fine on the account i logged into first [01:42] the one i switch to, the touchpad and mouse buttons fail [01:42] does it move around? [01:43] no [01:43] its as if its completely disabled [01:43] does it work if you log out instead of quick swich [01:44] it will work [01:44] sounds like a bug in fast user switching [01:44] yes [01:44] im using an ibm t42 if that helps === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-59-116.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:44] do you have a usb mouse? [01:45] no :\ [01:45] is it getting any output from cat /dev/input/mice ? [01:45] emilia, ouuu i dont know how to check that [01:46] wow i typed my own name [01:46] hold on, ill login the other account and type that === matysek [n=matysek@229.Red-88-22-154.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:48] hijjt, nothing, it doesnt work in the login screen [01:48] hijjt, and cat doesnt output anything === databuddy [n=starz@unaffiliated/databuddy] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:49] hijjt, cat outputs gibberish when i use the other pointer device though [01:49] yeah, that is what it is supposed to do [01:49] hijjt, also desktop effects say theyre enabled in the other account but its not really on [01:49] when you move the pointer it displays the mouse events [01:52] the quick user switching is pretty alpha and the way it works is probably going to change, I say lookup bugs of it on launchpad.net/ubuntu and file one if it doesn't exist, give as much info as you can, include a verbose lspci and list all the symptoms === Kousotu [i=Invincib@adsl-68-79-19-237.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === cyphase [n=cyphase@adsl-69-109-174-224.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:53] anyone haveng Xwindow issues? [01:53] I can'tget but a backround at times [01:54] hijjt, ok thanks for all your help! [01:54] emilia, sry i couldn't be more [01:55] someone help me.. [01:56] Kousotu, what does the xorg log say? [01:56] kde gnome? [01:56] ? [01:56] the wodow comes up blank [01:56] window* [01:56] black screen? [01:56] or background? [01:56] like if you end explorer in windows [01:57] god enough explination? [01:57] god* [01:57] .. [01:57] good* [01:57] are you using gnome? [01:57] I think. [01:57] gdm login? [01:57] I left everything at default [01:58] can you run anything with alt+f2 [01:58] ? [01:58] what's that do? [01:58] if you hit alt+f2 i think it brings up a run dialog [01:58] hm... [01:59] I don'treally wanna reboot to check atm [01:59] then you should be able to run a terminal and gnome panel [01:59] but what would I run? [01:59] I noticed the live CD wasn't acting right [01:59] it was messing up [01:59] I am not really sure what the problem would be, because there have been so many updates in the past week, but i would probably do an sudo apt-get update, and sudo apt-get upgrade [02:00] then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [02:00] I just downloaded the Iso like 20 mins ago [02:00] true, but trust me, there are updates [02:00] lol [02:00] yea, I know [02:01] it will probably correct the problem, it sounds like gnome panel is crashing or just not starting [02:01] I am going to go eat so ttyl [02:01] .... [02:01] everyone leaves.. [02:01] sry, I'll be back [02:02] lol [02:02] you got msn or aim? === Danni [n=danni@149.254.200.218] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:11] still there? === Toxicity999 [n=bryan@unaffiliated/Toxicity999] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tehk [n=tehk@c-69-249-157-157.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === arpu [n=arpu@p54BFCC8F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === hijjt [n=hijjt@cpe-71-79-139-208.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === astro76 [n=james@unaffiliated/astro76] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ToHellWithGA [n=ryan@d15-254.rt2-bras.clm.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ToHellWithGA [n=ryan@d15-254.rt2-bras.clm.centurytel.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Oh] === dalibor [n=topic@dslb-084-058-211-180.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mrigns [n=mrigns@unaffiliated/mrigns] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tretle [n=tretle@194.125.76.175] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@76.209.221.36] has joined #ubuntu+1 === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@208.68.49.172] has joined #ubuntu+1 === maniacmusician_ [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma- [n=e17@i156-171.nv.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === r0bby_ [n=wakawaka@cpe-24-164-167-171.hvc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === r0bby [n=wakawaka@guifications/user/r0bby] has joined #ubuntu+1 === OSUKid7 [n=OSUKid7@cpe-75-185-34-49.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === arpu [n=arpu@p54BFCC8F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === sn0 [n=mrsno@unaffiliated/sn0] has joined #ubuntu+1 === compwiz18 [n=adam18@221.223.232.81] has joined #ubuntu+1 === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === matysek [n=matysek@229.Red-88-22-154.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jmg [n=cartel@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:18] hey all my firefox keeps locking up [03:19] when i go to preferences === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@84.13.114.98] has joined #ubuntu+1 === eddiedean [n=steve@unaffiliated/opopanaxgentoo] has joined #ubuntu+1 === kary [n=kary@CPE001217e1b8eb-CM0014f85e4ca0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sn0 [n=mrsno@unaffiliated/sn0] has joined #ubuntu+1 === onechard [n=chard@ip68-98-192-143.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tatters [n=test@AC9F7909.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:41] someone asked if kde4 sessions were working? yikes. === compwiz18 [n=adam18@221.223.232.81] has joined #ubuntu+1 === cyphase [n=cyphase@c-71-198-55-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:47] I got a strange bug /problem due to a power failure ........at login screen if i press a key it prints out several of the same characters IE: I press n I get nnnnnnnnnnn. I thought it was a k/board problem but if I go to a terminal window it does not repeat the characters. BTW ...To log in If I press the backspace key ,then type I do not get the repeating characters nor do get repeating characters after logged in, only on the login screen [03:48] tatters, that's a gnome security feature. [03:48] is it just in the password field? [03:48] k,thnx excelent feature [03:49] any field on the login screen [03:49] oh, that's not a security feature then. [03:49] can you login? [03:49] so, you see ttttaaaattttteeeeerrrrrsssss when you try to login? [03:49] mmmm...taters.... [03:50] yes at terminal k/board fine and at login screen if using the backspace key [03:51] no as soon as I press first key it repeats itself so I get tttttttttttttttt [03:51] sounds like fun. [03:51] yah [03:51] i bet it's something in xorg.conf, or missing from. you can set repeat rates... [03:52] if I press DEL key it clears all the characters === crdlb [n=crdlb@unaffiliated/crdlb] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:52] I turned off key repeat in keyboard settings but it does not cross over to the login screen [03:53] key repeat turned off when logged in solves it temporary [03:54] I ran dpkg-reconfigure xorgserver-xorg auto detect k/board stilll same [03:54] try: sudo apt-get remove xkbset [03:55] yeah, it's not the normal keyboard layout stuff, and if you're using a generated xorg.conf, it's not gonna be there. [03:57] hmm I get a few lines of text with that command I post or passtebin [03:57] he following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: tetex-base libwxgtk2.4-1 libswfdec0.3 libflac++5c2 libfame-0.9 liboggflac3 libtdb1 libpvm3 libqt4-qt3support libpostproc0d libsqlite0 librte1 libavformat0d linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic libjasper-runtime libdb4.3++c2 ksync transcode libqt4-sql linux-headers-2.6.20-16 libavcodec0d libmal1 secpolicy libboost-python1.33.1 kitchensyncUse 'apt-get autoremove' to remove t [03:57] to remove and 3 not upgraded. [04:00] well at least that package was not installed [04:03] no idea how linux works but what difference is there to how the terminal manages k/board and login screen? [04:04] both are responding entirly different to key inputs [04:06] in hell no one hears ya sceam === tatters [n=test@AC9F7909.ipt.aol.com] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Kopete] [04:15] tatters [04:16] x manages any terminals you open in "windows". x also handles all the output when you're in the graphical environment, mouse, keyboard, everything. [04:16] if you're in the plain console, separate programs handle the inputs. === wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-145-80-107.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === siriusnova [i=sirius@sverige.freeshell.ORG] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:23] yo yo yo [04:23] long time no see [04:25] that's not good. [04:26] this dist-upgrade wants to remove apt === Mase [n=am@219-90-254-151.ip.adam.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === onechard [n=chard@ip68-98-192-143.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu+1 === a-l-p-h-a [n=alpha@unaffiliated/a-l-p-h-a] has joined #ubuntu+1 === _4strO [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-3-189.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 === eddiedean is now known as captain_jackknob === compwiz18 [n=adam18@221.223.232.81] has joined #ubuntu+1 === _4strO [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-3-189.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 === _4strO [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-3-189.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 === wfarr_ [n=wfarr@adsl-219-14-130.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:37] voidmage, ha! that sound like a good time === captain_jackknob is now known as opop === opop is now known as ubuntu_apologist === kousotu [n=kousotu@adsl-68-79-19-237.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:40] question about gutsy vs. FF [04:40] can the ALSA drivers for gutsy be used on F? [04:40] FF* [04:43] kousotu, probably not; they're compiled for different kernels [04:44] what kernal is gutsy? [04:45] uname -a [04:45] Linux monolith 2.6.22-9-generic #1 SMP Fri Aug 3 00:50:37 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux [04:45] gnubien> kousotu: boot gutsy, test sound, if it works install gutsy if you so choose [04:45] gutsy won't run [04:45] not when instaled [04:45] gnubien> kousotu: ok, ubuntu's alsa package versions are too old for your soundcard; you said gutsy will not boot on your laptop? === asdfj [n=asdfj@119.229.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === asdfj [n=asdfj@119.229.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === wlx [n=wlx@210.77.68.252] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ubuntu_apologist [n=steve@unaffiliated/opopanaxgentoo] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ubuntu_apologist [n=steve@unaffiliated/opopanaxgentoo] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:57] wb [04:57] ty [04:58] wy [04:58] .. [04:58] yw* [04:58] gnubien> kousotu: boot gutsy, test sound, if it works install gutsy if you so choose [04:58] gutsy won't run [04:58] not when instaled [04:58] gnubien> kousotu: ok, ubuntu's alsa package versions are too old for your soundcard; you said gutsy will not boot on your laptop? [04:58] in case you missed it [05:01] I might have to re-dl the gutsy CD [05:01] I think I burned it with too much speed [05:01] lol [05:02] : any ideas? === rockets [n=rockets@cpe-66-108-218-197.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma- [n=e17@i156-171.nv.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === assasukasse [n=assasuka@n219079228143.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === compwiz18 [n=adam18@221.223.232.81] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF0859.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === zewey [n=zanglang@123-51-4-15.static-dsl.qld.aussiewholesale.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === wfarr__ [n=wfarr@adsl-211-30-34.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === matysek [n=matysek@229.Red-88-22-154.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-211-30-34.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Kousotu [i=Invincib@adsl-68-79-19-237.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:45] where's the ISO link? [05:46] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com [05:46] Kousotu: #ubuntu-chicago since you are around Elmhurst somewhere..only if you are interested of course :) [05:46] ? [05:46] what "tribe"? [05:47] grate the daily/current [05:47] s/grate/grab [05:47] or daily-live if you want the live cd [05:47] sorry..I am so used to grabbing kubuntu/daily/current [05:47] lol [05:47] np [05:47] whereat near elmy are you? [05:48] I am out in bloominghell..there are a bunch of chicagoans around here and in the Ubuntu Chicago LoCo === cyphase [n=cyphase@c-71-198-55-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:49] I'm near Gary [05:49] lol [05:49] whoa [05:49] lol [05:49] wth you doing with Elmhurst ip [05:49] SBC does that [05:49] jeesh, SBC/AT&T/Whatever they are now has a lot of people on that subnet [05:50] lol [05:51] ahh, you are in Whiting then...you BP traitor ;p [05:51] hehe [05:52] am not === Linux_Galore [n=richard@60-242-20-212.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:52] new version of Ghostscript ( Ver 8.60) is out and now its GPLv2 http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2919 [05:53] ooh [05:53] !info ghostscript [05:53] ghostscript: The GPL Ghostscript PostScript/PDF interpreter. In component main, is optional. Version 8.60.dfsg.6-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 697 kB, installed size 3240 kB [05:53] ahh, main..let me do some poking [05:53] lol [05:53] (System info) OS:Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2 (5.1 - 2600) CPU:1-Intel , 1513MHz, 0KB Memory:Usage: 344/503MB (68.39%) Disk Capacity:C:\ (35.50GB Free, 60.55GB Total) Screen Resolution:1280x800 32bit 60Hz Network Interface:#1 (Marvell Yukon 88E8038 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller - Packet Scheduler Miniport (100Mb/s) 0.00MB In, 0.00MB Out) #2(Atheros AR5006X Wireless Network Adapter - Packet Scheduler Miniport (54M [05:53] lol [05:53] hehe, I don't feel like doing it right now, I am lzy === Falstius [n=jeff@c-71-227-120-16.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:55] Ktorrent still crashed when I exit and OOo seems to still have the gtk bug === Falstius [n=jeff@c-71-227-120-16.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [05:56] both are reported last I looked [05:56] Linux_Galore: I have the bug on a daily update machine..however I just installed Ubuntu in vbox, the latest daily..and it works [05:56] the good new it knetwork started working properly again [05:56] news* [05:57] has it? [05:57] knetworkmangler gave me issues on my desktop earlier [05:57] s/new it/news is [05:57] nixternal: works fine here, for a few weeks it hasnt [05:58] ya, that is an odd app...it has worked like a charm on this laptop since edgy...one or two days during gutsy it was nasty for me, but manageable [05:58] nixternal: OOo crashing is a reported bug, still open too, its something to do with a bug in gtk libs [05:59] yup..I added my Konqui/nspluginviewer/flash bug that is caused by gtk as a dupe to it [06:00] nixternal: Im on Kubuntu so Im using koffice for now [06:00] same here...KOffice is great, but my printer absolutely hates its settings [06:00] lol [06:00] I went to use LyX & LaTeX [06:00] s/use/using [06:00] anyone here run convertx2dvd under wine [06:00] I can export it to a pdf and it prints like a charm [06:01] nixternal: use k printer to refine your printer settings [06:01] wine? [06:01] I haven't ever run wine..so I would be a big fat no [06:01] yea wine blows [06:01] lol [06:01] feel the love [06:01] wth is wine? [06:01] lol [06:01] defcon: what does it actually do ? [06:01] same as devede [06:01] but better [06:02] defcon: yeah but there are like 101 format converters in in Linux, try another === cyphase [n=cyphase@c-71-198-55-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:02] yea I should, I hate running wine [06:02] defcon: so what does it exactly do that your after ? [06:03] well its quick for me because I copy allot of dvd's and the dvd menu is already configured nicely [06:03] it converts/does menu/and burns [06:03] defcon: I just use k3b, no brainer to copy dvd's [06:03] k3b is good [06:04] does it make a menu [06:04] can I add gfx [06:04] c I decorate bootlegs and make the menu's look like the real deal [06:04] defcon: the dvd should already have a menu [06:04] hey, can you run k3b on live? [06:04] defcon: aaah [06:05] Kousotu: somes with Kubuntu as standard [06:05] comes* [06:05] I'm gettin gutzy [06:05] gutsy* [06:05] takes to damnlong on windows.... [06:05] defcon: I use mandvd for all the menu crap [06:05] i am 100% against m$ but its unfortunate programmers are wasting there time with it === Tomcat_ [n=Tomcat@p54A1D219.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:06] defcon: most dvd editors will also edit menu's [06:07] defcon: make installers for Win games on Linux, then I'll stopusing windows lol [06:07] I havent used wine in a while now, the more you learn about what is available the less you need it I find, about a year ago I hit the point were I hadnt used wine for months [06:09] Kousotu, I love games and there is plenty of new linux games that kill winbl0ws [06:09] http://www.linuxgames.com/ [06:09] I found the PC is actually behind the consoles now so the "must have windows to play games" excuse doesnt work for me [06:10] http://rangit.com/software/top-8-linux-games-of-2007/ === ajmorris_ [n=ajmorris@220-253-112-235.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:10] Ive got a hard core gamer as a friend and he hardly uses his PC anymore, most games are released on consoles weeks before the PC now [06:11] defcon: I doubt that [06:11] Im waiting for MGS4 to hit the PS3 then I will grab one [06:13] the PS2 is still out selling the PS3 and XBOX (and you can still get new releases) [06:18] i wonder how we can get video game companies to support ubuntu [06:19] there should be a big movement of some kind [06:19] how many ppl actually use ubuntu or linux [06:19] not sure how accurate this still is, but last i heard it was still easier to develop for windows [06:19] standard libraries across windows versions meant you could develop a game for "windows 2000+" [06:20] but with all the different versions of the libraries floating about, and depending on the distro, it could be a headache for game developers [06:20] but again, i don't know how accurate that statement still is [06:20] sounds right [06:20] ;] [06:20] why cant these libraries be used in *nix [06:21] because some of them are proprietary libraries owned by microsoft [06:21] *coughcoughdirectxcough* === TheGoodShepherd [n=lollersk@c-24-14-254-177.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:23] thats so fuqing lame, can can they be sued for monopolizing [06:26] read the sherman antitrust act and come back to me on that === firephoto_ [n=tom@pool-71-120-230-100.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:42] voidmage, yea what they are doing is illegal, how are they getting away with it [06:43] because us v microsoft set a precedent [06:43] that's why [06:43] letting them get away with it === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF0859.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:46] will there ever be an end to m$ u think [06:46] i think so [06:47] i hope I live to see it === wehttamb [n=wehttamb@CPE-124-183-207-42.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:49] how can i install gutsy === tulga [n=chatzill@202.72.243.66] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:50] I need openoffice novell edition on my ubuntu box. is it available to install? [06:51] tulga, > www.openoffice.org === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@208.69.211.16] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:51] how can i upgrade 7.04 to 7.10 === a-l-p-h-a [n=alpha@unaffiliated/a-l-p-h-a] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [06:51] or do i have to do a full install? [06:52] defcon: I'm asking novell edition. it is very good user interface and some more supports [06:55] tulga, try the windows version with wine [06:55] try google [06:55] ok === acuster [n=acuster@86.210.251.254] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Kousotu [i=Invincib@adsl-68-79-19-237.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Sebastian [n=sb@p5088D1C8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ajmorris_ [n=ajmorris@220-253-112-235.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ajmorris_ [n=ajmorris@220-253-112-235.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === joerlend [n=joerlend@123-191.dsl.freewave.no] has joined #Ubuntu+1 === NETWizz [n=jbirk@adsl-63-199-242-8.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:21] Hi [07:21] How do I install Gusty? [07:22] same as the others === RAOF_ [n=chris@123-243-65-41.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === BHSPitMonkey_ [n=stephen@adsl-64-217-216-219.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === firephoto [n=tom@pool-71-120-230-100.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === NETWizz [n=jbirk@adsl-63-199-242-8.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:26] How do I install gusty [07:27] NETWizz: sudo update-manager -c -d [07:30] what does that do? [07:31] It makes gusty available === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === vega- [n=mikko@lotus.puolikuu.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tulga [n=chatzill@202.72.243.66] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:45] my window list not appearing :( [07:45] howto solve that? [07:46] "Add to panel" not working === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-105-6.auto.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mournsanity [n=joseph@adsl-69-235-222-211.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.142.50.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === dash [n=washort@tesla.divmod.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:10] anybody else see audio unusualness today? :) === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tehk [n=tehk@c-69-249-157-157.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === SeveredCross [n=bojan@c-24-60-139-195.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Stormx2 [n=Stormx2@host-87-240-137-127.hi-velocity.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ubuntu_apologist is now known as eddiedean === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-105-6.auto.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:49] got a question, if anyone can help. I've been running beryl for a while, and then I decided to upgrade to gutsy. under feisty, beryl+3rd party glx output (like glxgears, games, etc) worked pretty well. kinda slow because of the desktop, and I've only got an nvidia 5900 [08:49] then, upgrade to gutsy, no changes to xorg.conf, and all of a sudden glx stuff crashes my working compiz desktop. === mathias [n=mathias@gateway.3vilh4x0r.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-105-6.auto.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:50] so, i helped a guy out on ubuntu-effects today, and he was able to get his 5200 working no problem with my help. [08:50] he had all the same arguments in xorg I had, but his glx stuff is working just peachy--just under feisty. [08:51] people keep telling me something's wrong in my xorg.conf, but I don't think so -- I think this is a real bug. === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:52] so i'm gonna look at the bug site again, see if I can find it. [08:52] else, i'm gonna file a bug. [08:56] eddiedean: 5900 running slow wouldnt suprise me, I have a 6200 card and it struggles, the only machine I have that doesnt struggle is my laptops with a 7400 setup === RAOF [n=chris@123-243-65-41.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:01] the whole GF 5*** wasnt really that fast [09:01] eddiedean: I found the drivers installed via the nvidia website seem to work a bit better for me === DreamThief [n=mathias@unaffiliated/dreamthief] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:01] eddiedean: also check the ram speed on your card, some cards have better ram than others [09:01] eddiedean: also the chipset used can have an effect on IO video card speeds [09:02] it's not a speed thing [09:02] the speed i expect. [09:03] it's that all of a sudden, glxgears CRASHES X instantly. gotta check the logs... [09:03] eddiedean: this is one of the annoying things with PC's, there are two many variables between different hardware types that can cause weirdness [09:04] yeah. software is what's killin me; i know it's totally capable. [09:05] eddiedean: Ive started to use just pure intel machines ie cpu+chipset then add a nvidia card, life seems to be allot better for me now === Toma- [n=e17@i156-171.nv.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:10] eddiedean: have you tried running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [09:11] do you know what the buddhist said to the hamburger vendor? [09:12] ? === hwilde [n=hwilde@pool-151-201-46-168.pitt.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:12] make me one with everything. [09:12] no [09:12] anybody ever have eth0 and eth1 just disappear on a reboot and never come back? [09:12] sure, when i unplugged my ethernet card. [09:12] hwilde: for me it came back as eth2 [09:13] get it? [09:13] totally gone. pcmcia wifi card and a wired ethernet port [09:13] no mention in dmesg [09:14] Linux_Galore, what does that do, besides rewrite my xorg.conf? [09:14] the lights on the pcmcia card don't even blink [09:14] hwilde: 3 things. [09:14] it doesn't even register pcmcia card ejected and reinserted [09:15] either the driver isn't working (not likely), the slot is bad (also not likely, but switch to a different slot if you can), or the card is dead (most likely culprit). [09:15] I tried multiple cards that work on another laptop [09:16] eddiedean: also does a check of your hardware and allows you to define manually some aspects of the setup very easily [09:16] the drivers were working and no updates were installed [09:16] Linux_Galore, ok, ok. i'll try it your way... [09:16] if the pcmcia slot goes bad, that is one thing, but the wired ethernet port also simultaneously going bad? [09:16] i don't like scripts messing with my stuff [09:16] it is like networking is uninstalled [09:16] hwilde, that's different. [09:17] the only thing that shows up with ifconfig -a is lo [09:17] hwilde: sudo /etc/init.d/networking --restart [09:17] Linux_Galore, eth0 no such device, eth1 no such device [09:17] Linux_Galore, yep, i concur. [09:17] /etc/network/interfaces has not changed [09:18] hwilde: I get that too but it then decided to go with eth2 [09:18] no argue! ve have vays of making you run the initscript again! [09:18] it says those devices are not found === NETWizz [n=jbirk@adsl-63-199-242-8.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [09:22] okay what the hell. [09:22] firefox and epiphany-browser keep crashing. [09:22] deer park is crashing too. [09:23] eddiedean, Linux_Galore, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32458/ /etc/init.d/networking restart results are at the bottom after the bootup messages, ifconfig, dmesg === eMaX [n=emax@131.47.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:26] is anyone having random problems with the xim/scim input methods? [09:29] you know your nickname is a stephen king character? [09:31] who, me? :P === eboyjr [n=eboyjr@ip24-253-50-30.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:32] what's that command to generate a checksum on the xorg.conf? [09:32] hwilde, umm, like, YEAH! === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:33] junkies + redemption == good reading [09:33] so how could networking just disappear === nikolam [n=nikola@adsl-216-182.eunet.yu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:36] eddiedean: md5sum filename [09:37] Hello [09:37] eddiedean: why would you need to check a text file though === emonkey [n=emonkey@213.1.220.131] has joined #ubuntu+1 === pwnguin [n=jld5445@camaro.cis.ksu.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:38] hwilde: from what Im seeing its a hardware issue [09:38] Should I or should not turn on recommended updates on Tribe3? I recieved tons of updates afte that and tons of new bugs everywhere [09:38] nikolam: gutys is one huge bug [09:38] Should I or should not turn on recommended updates on Tribe3? [09:39] beauty is in the eye of the beholder [09:39] This may be off topic, but what does Ubuntu Gutsy look differently than feisty so far? [09:39] nikolam: I found tribe 3 to have fewer bugs in some respects [09:39] I'm too curious [09:39] nikolam: Yes, you should. There's absolutely no point in running an out-of-date gutsy. [09:39] eboyjr: not really [09:39]