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| ynezz | hm booted, but the installer is not usable in 800x600 :) | 12:44 |
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| ynezz | suppose it's this bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/38442 | 01:10 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 38442 in ubiquity "MASTER: Doesn't support < 1024x768 resolutions" [High,In progress] | 01:10 |
| ynezz | oh its bot | 01:10 |
| ynezz | nice one :) | 01:11 |
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| mikmor1 | I wonder how useful it would be to start up synaptic right after installing onto a device, so you could give the user the option to customize the installation from the live environment... | 01:34 |
| mikmor1 | not that it is functionally restricted, really.. but it might look nice | 01:35 |
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| jetscreamer | dselect used to be an option in d-i | 01:39 |
| jetscreamer | during the install i mean | 01:39 |
| jetscreamer | so there may even be an entry point | 01:40 |
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| mikmor1 | i was thinking about Ubiquity | 01:40 |
| jetscreamer | yes, but i was just cheering you on | 01:41 |
| mikmor1 | heh, thanks | 01:41 |
| jetscreamer | personally i prefer being able to install all i want then | 01:41 |
| mikmor1 | i think it would be nice for users who haven't used ubuntu before (or linux) | 01:41 |
| mikmor1 | kind of adds a layer of "hey, look what you can do" | 01:42 |
| jetscreamer | that too | 01:42 |
| mikmor1 | esp. since almost everyone is always connected to the internet anymore | 01:42 |
| mikmor1 | of course, if you aren't connected.. it might be confusing | 01:43 |
| mikmor1 | so maybe have it starting up contingent upon if you can connect to the pool | 01:43 |
| mikmor1 | anyway, just brainstorming | 01:44 |
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| jetscreamer | oh yeah ya'll don't have netinstalls | 01:53 |
| mikmor1 | ? | 01:55 |
| ryanakca | Hey, can an Ubuntu dev help me with http://groupware.kubuntu.co.uk/openssl_0.9.8e-5ubuntu2.debdiff ? All I did was create a patch on apps/s_client.c, update changelog, add quilt to build dep, XSBC-Original-Maintainer/Maintainer fix, and add 'include /usr/share/quilt/quilt.make' to rules. But... there's a pile of extra changes in the debdiff. | 01:56 |
| ryanakca | doko_: ping, you made the last change to openssl, right? Safe to ignore? | 02:00 |
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| infinity | ryanakca: Still here? | 03:18 |
| ryanakca | infinity: yep, and I fixed the debdiff. https://groupware.kubuntu.co.uk/openssl_0.9.8e-5ubuntu2.debdiff | 03:19 |
| infinity | No, you really didn't. :) | 03:19 |
| ryanakca | no? | 03:19 |
| infinity | Please, please, please don't add patch systems to packages that don't have them. | 03:19 |
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| infinity | It makes the Debian<->Ubuntu delta much harder for us to maintain, honest. | 03:20 |
| infinity | Your debdiff would have been all of two changed lines without that gratuitous change. | 03:20 |
| ryanakca | Ah, ok, so, plain old seperate patches? | 03:21 |
| infinity | Err, what? | 03:21 |
| ryanakca | infinity: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/PatchingSources ... udev: | 03:22 |
| infinity | Err, no. OpenSSL doesn't have any sort of patch system, please don't add one. | 03:23 |
| infinity | pitti's tutorial there is great for people making their own packages, or learning how existing patch systems work, but please don't take it as a ringing endorsement to gratuitously deviate from Debian and inflate our merge diffs. | 03:25 |
| infinity | Anyhow, I'm likely to be making an OpenSSL upload soon anyway, so I can just fix this bug at the same time and we can stop arguing about it. | 03:27 |
| Riddell | infinity: I think python-kde3 needs given back, it's complaining that python-qt3 can't be installed but the new build can be | 03:28 |
| infinity | synacktion: Also, doko's change to openssl is most definitely not safe to ignore. :) | 03:28 |
| infinity | ryanakca: ^^ | 03:29 |
| infinity | synacktion: Sorry, misfire. | 03:29 |
| ryanakca | infinity: I sent the patch itself to openssl-dev@openssl.org | 03:29 |
| infinity | ryanakca: Well, that part's good, yes. | 03:30 |
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| infinity | Riddell: Still looks uninstallable to me. | 03:36 |
| infinity | Riddell: On i386, anyway. The other arches seem happy enough. | 03:37 |
| Riddell | guess the i386 python-qt3 is still on its way to the archives | 03:39 |
| infinity | Oh, for some value of fine. Some of them dep-waited on the new python-qt3 | 03:40 |
| infinity | s/Some/All/ | 03:46 |
| Riddell | I can live with dep-wait I guess, better than failing | 03:55 |
| Riddell | infinity: I missing a (rather important) package, kdelibs5-data has vanished for 3.92.0-0ubuntu1~feisty2 in feisty-backports, any idea where it's gone? | 03:56 |
| infinity | What source is that from? | 03:57 |
| Riddell | kdelibs5, I guess it's because the i386 buildd was so slow | 03:58 |
| infinity | I sure would like to know why LP doesn't think there's a kdelibs5 source package.. | 03:59 |
| Riddell | oh, sorry, it's kde4libs source | 04:00 |
| Riddell | and I'm missing a versioned build-dep from kdelibs5 to kdelibs5-data, which is why a bunch of my builds failed | 04:00 |
| Riddell | infinity: could you give back kdepimlibs kde4graphics kde4graphics kde4multimedia kde4games kde4edu once kde4libs 3.92.0-0ubuntu1~feisty2 i386 has reached the archives | 04:01 |
| infinity | Yeah, the i386 build only recently finished. You need to learn patience. :) | 04:01 |
| Riddell | I've been waiting for it to compile all day, are backports lower priority for the buildds than gutsy builds? | 04:02 |
| infinity | Yes. | 04:02 |
| Riddell | suspected so | 04:02 |
| infinity | I imagine the reasons for that should be obvious. :) | 04:02 |
| Riddell | yeah, it's fair enough | 04:02 |
| Riddell | but it makes it hard to have timely releases of new kde releases for my loyal fans, it's much easier just to compile them locally and upload and I know they're done | 04:03 |
| infinity | Well, unfortunately, soyuz is a bit slow right now. | 04:04 |
| infinity | Partially due to the 8000 build queue in lpia that slows some things down, partially due to a slightly braindead behaviour in slave-scanner. | 04:04 |
| infinity | I'll be working on the latter with cprov later, once I'm done with lpia. | 04:04 |
| infinity | The former is something we just have to cope with for now. | 04:04 |
| Riddell | anyway, hope I havn't ruined your weekend by making you give back all those when kde4libs is done, I should be off to bed | 04:06 |
| Burgundavia | infinity: are you building the entire archive for lpia? I thought it was just x86 | 04:06 |
| infinity | Burgundavia: Err, come again? | 04:06 |
| mjg59 | Burgundavia: It's x86 with different build optimisations, and we'll want different binary configuration from the same source package | 04:07 |
| infinity | Burgundavia: It's a new dpkg arch so, i386 binary compatibility notwithstanding, you can't mix _i386.deb and _lpia.deb packages on the same system. | 04:07 |
| Burgundavia | right, ok | 04:07 |
| mjg59 | And given that we don't have support for multiarch... | 04:07 |
| infinity | mjg59: I totally have poor-man's multiarch going on here! | 04:07 |
| mjg59 | Yeah, and I had poor-man's multiarch implemented for installing i386 binaries on NetBSD 4 years ago | 04:08 |
| mjg59 | That doesn't make it /right/ | 04:08 |
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| mjg59 | Wow. I even wrote a paper for that conference. | 04:09 |
| mjg59 | I must have been feeling enthusiastic | 04:09 |
| mjg59 | Especially since they didn't do printed proceedings | 04:09 |
| infinity | Trying to impress a girl, no doubt. | 04:09 |
| infinity | I know that's the only reason I write papers. Chicks dig a guy who can string multiple sentences together and still look hot doing it. | 04:10 |
| mjg59 | Gosh. I even went to Leeds to present it. | 04:11 |
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| twb | Hiya. Edgy's casper could not netboot, Etch's casper could. I'm looking at the casper 1.87 changelog in Feisty and it looks it can netboot now. Could someone confirm this? | 05:21 |
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| lamont | doko_: that newer libtool (sans java) is there now | 06:56 |
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| calc | i'm testing my newly merged OOo 2.3 :) | 07:20 |
| calc | only have some minor patches left not merged and doing the build now :) | 07:21 |
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| encompass | doko: I am looking at the restricted python module here... http://pypi.python.org/pypi/RestrictedPython/3.4.2 and finding that there is no specific package to handle this module... infact there is some duplicate code found here... http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=RestrictedPython&searchmode=searchfilesanddirs&case=insensitive&version=feisty&arch=i386 is it possible to pull restricted python out and | 09:32 |
| encompass | doko_: I am looking at the restricted python module here... http://pypi.python.org/pypi/RestrictedPython/3.4.2 and finding that there is no specific package to handle this module... infact there is some duplicate code found here... http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=RestrictedPython&searchmode=searchfilesanddirs&case=insensitive&version=feisty&arch=i386 is it possible to pull restricted python out and | 09:33 |
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| doko_ | encompass: as I said before: better package the upstream version and check that zope3 still works with this one | 09:37 |
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| StevenK | Morning pitti | 09:38 |
| pitti | hey StevenK | 09:39 |
| encompass | doko: sorry, didn't know you responded... thanks, I will "try" I can bearly make my own packages as is. | 09:39 |
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| Riddell | infinity: aww, you never gave back those packages | 10:20 |
| pitti | Riddell: shall I give back something? | 10:20 |
| Riddell | ooh, please, kdepimlibs kde4graphics kde4graphics kde4multimedia kde4games kde4edu in feisty-backports | 10:23 |
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| Riddell | pitti: will you be able to look at our main inclusion requests before going on honeymoon? (when is that again?) | 10:30 |
| pitti | Riddell: honeymoon starts at august 25, so yes | 10:32 |
| pitti | Riddell: given back | 10:34 |
| Riddell | thanks | 10:35 |
| pitti | Riddell: not on ia64, though, since I guess that's busted anyway | 10:35 |
| Riddell | I don't much care for ia64 :) | 10:35 |
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| mvo | infinity: could you please give-back debtags on amd64? and libapt-front on all arches? | 10:48 |
| pitti | mvo: done | 10:50 |
| mvo | pitti: thanks! | 10:50 |
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| pitti | we're getting fatter and fatter with every tribe | 10:51 |
| Burgundavia | pitti: we do ship two photo apps | 10:53 |
| Burgundavia | if we kicked off gphoto we would win some space | 10:53 |
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| pitti | Burgundavia: gphoto? | 10:54 |
| pitti | Burgundavia: you mean gthumb or f-spot? | 10:54 |
| Burgundavia | gthumb, right | 10:54 |
| pitti | yeah, that's a long-standing issue | 10:54 |
| Burgundavia | since dapper | 10:54 |
| coNP | BTW, ajmitch, do you think you will package f-spot 0.4.0 for the next tribe? | 10:55 |
| pitti | last time I tried f-spot, its cam download sucked, not sure whether that changed | 10:55 |
| Burgundavia | I think the one thing that would need to be done is the popup when a camera is entered | 10:55 |
| pitti | Burgundavia: that's easily done | 10:55 |
| Burgundavia | plugged in. wow, my english sucks tonight | 10:55 |
| pitti | Burgundavia: if f-spot has a mode "download pics from the cam to that directory and display it", then all is well | 10:55 |
| pitti | last time, this seemingly simple task was a mess | 10:55 |
| Burgundavia | I own exactly 0 digital cameras, so I never use either | 10:56 |
| ajmitch | coNP: most likely | 10:56 |
| pitti | so, let's try | 10:57 |
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| pitti | wow, merely opening and closing f-spot makes it crash | 10:57 |
| StevenK | What do you expect from an Mono application? :-P | 10:58 |
| tepsipakki | pitti: does the xorg.conf generator (dexconf) work for you now? | 11:01 |
| pitti | tepsipakki: I just dist-upgraded, will try now | 11:01 |
| pitti | tepsipakki: that was an interesting race condition: you uploaded late enough for me not to see your version yet, and early enough so that the bug was already closed, so I didn't find it any more | 11:01 |
| pitti | tepsipakki: with the result that I uploaded a fix, too, which was rejected :) | 11:02 |
| coNP | By the way, has f-spot directory support? | 11:02 |
| tepsipakki | pitti: heh :) | 11:02 |
| coNP | I think without the ability to browse all images in a directory we should s/gthumb/f-spot/g | 11:02 |
| pitti | tepsipakki: yeah, works fine now. It skips all the SubSection stuff | 11:02 |
| pitti | tepsipakki: it is *soo* great that it doesn't hardcode the 1024x768 Mode limitation any more when it cannot detect the resolution | 11:03 |
| pitti | tepsipakki: apparently X's own detection is much better and figures it out correctly | 11:03 |
| mvo | has anyone tried the latest apt yet? | 11:03 |
| pitti | tepsipakki: which means that after three years of Ubuntu I finally don't need to reconfigure my X after install \o/ | 11:03 |
| tepsipakki | pitti: yeah, there's been a lot going on in debian.. next thing to happen is that it doesn't need discover anymore | 11:04 |
| pitti | tepsipakki: I know an awful lot of people with the very same problem (it's a showstopper for many of them), I'll ask them for testing gutsy :) | 11:04 |
| coNP | mvo: /me reinstalled amarok with it | 11:04 |
| pitti | tepsipakki: current xorg.conf is very clean; no triplicate wacom any more and such | 11:04 |
| mvo | coNP: and that was fine I assume? | 11:04 |
| coNP | Yes. It worked as usual. | 11:05 |
| tepsipakki | pitti: really? that should be there I think.. | 11:05 |
| pitti | tepsipakki: oh, wait, that's still there, just somewhere else | 11:05 |
| mvo | good :) thanks | 11:05 |
| coNP | thank *you* :) | 11:05 |
| pitti | tepsipakki: why does it need to be there three times? I don't even have such a thing | 11:05 |
| pitti | oh, stylus/eraser/cursor | 11:05 |
| pitti | tepsipakki: well, that might eventually go with 1.4 and hal input hotplug? | 11:06 |
| tepsipakki | pitti: I've been following the wacom ml every now and then, and yes, input hotplug will solve that eventually | 11:06 |
| pitti | tepsipakki: oh, something that is now missing are the font paths; that's on purpose? | 11:06 |
| pitti | with all the InputDevice gone, I only have Device/Monitor/Screen/ServerLayout; that thing becomes manageable :) | 11:07 |
| tepsipakki | pitti: yes, the ones that are needed (fixed fonts) are hardcoded on xserver build | 11:07 |
| tepsipakki | the rest was just cruft | 11:07 |
| pitti | tepsipakki: ah, the rest is handled on the client side? pango and such? | 11:07 |
| tepsipakki | should be | 11:07 |
| tepsipakki | if it works :) | 11:07 |
| pitti | tepsipakki: what happens with WMs like fvwm which don't use pango? | 11:08 |
| tepsipakki | pitti: seems to work just fine, I've tested that yesterday with a fresh install | 11:08 |
| tepsipakki | I'm not that familiar with those | 11:08 |
| tepsipakki | ..changes | 11:08 |
| pitti | ah, great | 11:09 |
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| pitti | ajmitch: hm, so f-spot-import seemingly worked | 11:17 |
| pitti | hm, except that the target folder is empty | 11:17 |
| pitti | no, it's still as broken as before | 11:18 |
| pitti | I told it to import to /mm/Fotos/<name> and don't import | 11:18 |
| pitti | and instead it imported into ~/Photos | 11:18 |
| StevenK | pitti: What do you expect from an Mono application? :-P | 11:18 |
| pitti | and f-spot doesn't display any photos, most menu items are greyed out, I cannot select folders, etc. | 11:19 |
| pitti | this thing sucks | 11:19 |
| pitti | Burgundavia: it seems f-spot isn't anywhere near to replace gthumb ATM :( | 11:19 |
| pitti | Photos/2007/07/18/img_0001.jpg | 11:20 |
| pitti | whoever came up with *that* directory layout must have been on utter crack | 11:20 |
| pitti | yay, and that sigsegv again | 11:21 |
| StevenK | Here's a question. Why was it even promoted to main? | 11:23 |
| pitti | StevenK: it's in -desktop, and besides tomboy it's responsible for a lot of MB of CD space... | 11:23 |
| StevenK | I don't think tomboy is as bad as that, though... | 11:24 |
| pitti | no, probably not | 11:24 |
| pitti | I never tried it, though (keeping TODO lists as a wiki is ... dramatically overengineered for my taste) | 11:24 |
| pitti | some people like it, though, so if it works, that's fine | 11:25 |
| pitti | but f-spot doesn't leave us in a good light, I'm afraid | 11:25 |
| coNP | Why do we have f-spot in -desktop? Tomboy is fine IMHO. It definitely *works*. | 11:26 |
| StevenK | It was added during Feisty, if I recall correctly. | 11:26 |
| StevenK | (f-spot) | 11:26 |
| pitti | coNP: not sure any more; desktop people wanted it because it's shiny | 11:26 |
| StevenK | I've been told f-spot rocks. I remain unconvinced. | 11:26 |
| pitti | well, YMMV; it never did what I wanted, but I might just be strange | 11:26 |
| elmo | I've never had f-spot crash on me, FWIW and apart from the whole wanting to own the photos, I found it a nicer UI than gthumb | 11:28 |
| pitti | I insist on keeping my photos in a sane directory structure; that's what mankind did for hundreds of years... | 11:28 |
| pitti | elmo: might just be gutsy, or amd64, or whatever; as I said, other people seem to be much more lucky than me with this | 11:29 |
| StevenK | Great. gtk2hs now fails the same way on i386 and amd64. | 11:30 |
| === StevenK uploads the first step. | ||
| === StevenK kicks pinentry, and ScottK for getting it promoted. | ||
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| pygi | hello | 11:37 |
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| pitti | hi pygi | 12:03 |
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| elmo | (but I did stop using it because of the 'all your photos are belong to me' thing) | 12:07 |
| elmo | pitti: ah, right, yeah, I use/used it on edgy/feisty i386 | 12:07 |
| === Fujitsu_ would use it if it wasn't for that. | ||
| elmo | I don't suppose someone would be willing to try (again) to convince dbus upstream that 'restart your computer on upgrade' isn't reasonable? | 12:21 |
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| jetscreamer | ??? | 12:22 |
| jetscreamer | omg | 12:22 |
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| geser | pitti: is bug #114855 important enough to be milestoned or should I be more patient? Without the drivers for my wifi card (prism54) the gutsy kernel isn't of much use for me (still running the feisty kernel) | 12:41 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 114855 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 "prism54 and other wlan drivers missing in kernel 2.6.22" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114855 | 12:41 |
| sladen | ooh, all the team memberships are expiring again. what joy | 12:41 |
| pitti | geser: actually the window for a complete kernel upload is closed already, but if it's just a non-ABI-change of l-u-m, that's still fine | 12:41 |
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| pitti | geser: can you please mail BenC with the details? | 12:42 |
| pitti | geser: or, if it's all in the bug, let me do it | 12:42 |
| pitti | erk, metacity made my other xchat window disappear again, brb | 12:42 |
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| geser | pitti: it would be the re-addition of the missing drivers which got lost between the the feisty kernel and the gutsy one | 12:43 |
| pitti | mailed | 12:45 |
| geser | thanks | 12:45 |
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| sbalneav | Morning all | 01:30 |
| pitti | hi sbalneav | 01:34 |
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| sbalneav | Hey pitti. | 01:36 |
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| geser | StevenK: have you some time to review bug #130348? | 01:42 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 130348 in festival "[Merge] festival 1.4.3-21ubuntu1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130348 | 01:42 |
| Hobbsee | mjg59: ...wow. | 01:44 |
| StevenK | I'm still impressed at some of the downright stupid things Automatix has done. | 01:44 |
| pitti | StevenK++ | 01:45 |
| Fujitsu | The killall -9 dpkg is a little evil. | 01:45 |
| StevenK | A little? | 01:45 |
| Hobbsee | pitti! | 01:46 |
| === pitti tickles Hobbsee | ||
| === Hobbsee stomps on pitti's feet | ||
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| === Fujitsu hides. | ||
| === Hobbsee throws pitti at Fujitsu | ||
| === pitti throws a gummybear at Hobbsee | ||
| Fujitsu | Aw. | 01:47 |
| Fujitsu | Mmm... gummybears. | 01:47 |
| === StevenK has Allen's snakes here. | ||
| === Kmos watchs the party | ||
| === Hobbsee hands it to Fujitsu | ||
| === pitti throws a couple of crisps at Kmos | ||
| === Hobbsee doesnt eat lollies. | ||
| Hobbsee | that's...really...wow. | 01:50 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee: What is? | 01:51 |
| StevenK | Hobbsee: Which part? | 01:51 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: automatix report | 01:51 |
| === StevenK kicks Haskell for existing. | ||
| === Fujitsu looked at it himself 3 months ago, and has mostly recovered from the horrors. | ||
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: where is that? | 01:52 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: particularly the parts where the system can be left unbootable | 01:52 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html | 01:52 |
| StevenK | Hobbsee: Indeed. | 01:52 |
| ajmitch | ah, interesting | 01:52 |
| === Hobbsee has a horrible thought | ||
| Hobbsee | automatix doesnt exist for gutsy yet, does it? | 01:52 |
| ajmitch | I hope not | 01:53 |
| ajmitch | but it most likely will be around | 01:53 |
| Fujitsu | It should be soon. | 01:53 |
| TheMuso | Shocking is only the start of the long line of descriptive words I'd use. | 01:53 |
| Hobbsee | it's just going to be a lot easier to break your entire system, passing -assume-yes to apt on a development version | 01:53 |
| elkbuntu | it'll happen, unless certain people get into really horrible accidents some time soon | 01:53 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee: True, even better! | 01:53 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: although most of that breakage is gone now | 01:53 |
| TheMuso | Wasn't easyubuntu created to combat automatix or some such? | 01:54 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: yeah | 01:54 |
| StevenK | TheMuso: Most of the descriptive words I'd use to describe Automatix are unprintable. | 01:54 |
| TheMuso | StevenK: Same here. | 01:54 |
| Fujitsu | StevenK: Mhm... Darn CoC. | 01:54 |
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| pitti | Kmos: don't worry, they don't bite back | 01:54 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: it should be fairly sane, but the guy has no interest in ubuntu packaging | 01:54 |
| elkbuntu | TheMuso, easyubuntu doesnt sell as many souls to the devil though | 01:54 |
| Hobbsee | pitti: much. | 01:54 |
| Kmos | pitti: hehe | 01:54 |
| pitti | they just nibble a bit | 01:55 |
| Kmos | :) | 01:55 |
| === Kmos remembers his best friend bought a scorpion imperial some days agoo | ||
| Kmos | :) | 01:55 |
| === Hobbsee nibbles on pitti | ||
| === Hobbsee "dinner #2?" | ||
| sbalneav | ogra: ping | 01:56 |
| === pitti stuffs some herring into Hobbsee to quiesce her | ||
| Hobbsee | i hope that's cooked! | 01:56 |
| ajmitch | pitti: I'm afraid it'll take more than that | 01:56 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: yes. chocolate? :D | 01:56 |
| TheMuso | Hobbsee: I thought that would be desert. | 01:56 |
| pitti | ajmitch: an entire whale? | 01:57 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: I don't think chocolate & you would be safe | 01:57 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: sure it is! | 01:57 |
| TheMuso | ajmitch: Me neither. | 01:57 |
| ajmitch | nor any form of caffiene | 01:57 |
| TheMuso | Chocolate can be my best friend at times. :p | 01:57 |
| === Hobbsee doesnt go that crazy on caffiene | ||
| === Hobbsee just...relaxes a fair bit... | ||
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| ajmitch | Hobbsee: undoubtably that's because you're already a long way towards crazy? :) | 01:57 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: hehe :) | 01:57 |
| elkbuntu | ajmitch, 'towards'? dude, she's already there | 01:58 |
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| ajmitch | elkbuntu: well we're not quite sure just how far down that path she can go | 01:59 |
| elkbuntu | ajmitch, since she didnt try tickle me on the plane to spain, she's not at the manical point yet | 02:00 |
| ajmitch | you'll be glad of that, I bet | 02:00 |
| Hobbsee | elkbuntu: we had a truce. | 02:00 |
| Hobbsee | elkbuntu: i wanted to get some sleep at all on the plane. | 02:01 |
| elkbuntu | Hobbsee, a manic wouldnt have remembered a truce enough to honor it ;) | 02:01 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 02:01 |
| Hobbsee | elkbuntu: well....if people piss me off by continually tickling me, or taking my stuff, then i *will* get pissed at them. | 02:01 |
| TheMuso | lol | 02:01 |
| === TheMuso loaths being tickled. | ||
| TheMuso | And will literally strike back if its done too much. | 02:02 |
| Hobbsee | so, being pissed at you on the plane wouldnt have been so fun, especially with it being so long | 02:02 |
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| elkbuntu | Hobbsee, :) | 02:03 |
| Hobbsee | elkbuntu: then agian, we were kinda close to the wing - so we could have had a wrestling match. "oops, we lost elkbuntu out the plane, somewhere on the way to frankfurt" | 02:04 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 02:04 |
| ajmitch | strange people | 02:04 |
| Kmos | hehe | 02:04 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: yes, we know you're strange. you seem to like being tickled, for one thing... | 02:05 |
| TheMuso | hahahaha | 02:06 |
| ajmitch | sorry, you're confusing me with someone else | 02:06 |
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| Hobbsee | ajmitch: seeing as there have been very few ubuntu developers in my house, that's kinda hard to do. | 02:07 |
| Riddell | pitti: could you give back python-kde3 | 02:07 |
| pitti | Riddell: kicked | 02:07 |
| Riddell | you're the best pitti | 02:08 |
| pitti | no problem :) | 02:08 |
| pitti | just watching postgresql build and run tests anyway | 02:08 |
| Riddell | sounds about as much fun as watching big brother | 02:09 |
| === StevenK is trying to figure out why gtk2hs FTBFS | ||
| pitti | Riddell: now that it actually works it is much better! | 02:09 |
| bigon | hi,is it normal that I get: Failed to fetch ftp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Hash Sum mismatch ? | 02:10 |
| coNP | bigon: I can confirm :) | 02:10 |
| coNP | (not sure it is normal, though) | 02:10 |
| pitti | http:// amd64 works here | 02:10 |
| coNP | So it is not a bug, but a feature. Please buy a new computer. | 02:11 |
| bigon | ^^ | 02:11 |
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| TheMuso | Riddell: If you don't mind asking me, where does KDE 4 stand in regards to accessibility? I, and a few others from the community have asked the same question of the accessibility team for KDE, but with no answer... | 02:15 |
| TheMuso | s/asking me/me asking/ | 02:15 |
| Riddell | TheMuso: qt4 has all the infrastructure and APIs and ATK standards, but it doesn't use the same corba protocol as gnome so none of the existing tools work | 02:18 |
| Riddell | and I don't know of anyone working on equivalent tools | 02:18 |
| Riddell | the best hope seems to be that qt will adopt a dbus protocol for ATK and gnome will follow and everyone will be talking the same | 02:19 |
| TheMuso | Hmm ok. I need to see what I can do about trying to give them a shove to a more desktop neutral solution. | 02:19 |
| Riddell | but it's quite frustrating after years of expecting qt 4 to fix everything and it hasn't | 02:19 |
| Riddell | I don't think gnome is very enthusiastic about moving to dbus, it's too much work | 02:20 |
| TheMuso | Out of all the freedesktop standards stuff, this is unfortunately one of the biggest things to not happen yet. | 02:20 |
| TheMuso | I get the same feeling. | 02:20 |
| TheMuso | Ok thanks for that. | 02:21 |
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| pitti | bye everyone! | 02:32 |
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| geser | doko: I've added the last changelog entry from Debian to bug #130348. But how does building with -v<last version in ubuntu> change a debdiff? | 03:00 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 130348 in festival "[Merge] festival 1.4.3-21ubuntu1" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130348 | 03:00 |
| doko | geser: dpkg-buildpackage -S -v<version> | 03:01 |
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| geser | doesn't it only changes the .changes file? which isn't included in a debdiff | 03:01 |
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| doko | geser: sure, but how should one review a merge without knowning all changes? | 03:04 |
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| geser | doko: so I should simply copy all the new changelog entries into the comment field the next time? | 03:06 |
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| doko | geser: yes | 03:06 |
| geser | ok, will remember for the next time | 03:07 |
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| geser | doko: is something still missing? | 03:07 |
| doko | geser: I don't think so | 03:08 |
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| coNP | Can some core-dev review / sponsor my magyarispell REVU upload (http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6332), please? | 03:22 |
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| TheMuso | c | 03:40 |
| TheMuso | ugh | 03:40 |
| bigon | has someone already had a look at http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/pam/ to help debian (and ubuntu) to have an uptodate pam (it seems that that package a a nasty but rleigh had no time to catch it) | 03:56 |
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| booza | Hi all , where is the autostart function on a livecd , i want start firefox or something with the login in the livecd | 04:25 |
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| === cjwatson tracks down the cause of the cdimage mkisofs breakage and files bug 130376 | ||
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 130376 in cdrkit "crash while checking MD5sums on jigdo include list" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130376 | 05:32 |
| elmo | cjwatson: \o/ | 05:35 |
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| ceztko | all: i am having troubles with the security repository of edgy...where i can signal problems about repositories? | 05:47 |
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| pygi | siretart, around by any chance? | 06:33 |
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| siretart | pygi: you're very lucky, but I'm at my gf's parents | 06:44 |
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| sbalneav | urgh, ltsp chroot isn't building. What is it again to finish all postinsts? dpkg -i --recover? | 07:05 |
| kylem | dpkg --configure, i think is what you want | 07:07 |
| kylem | if i understand what you're wanting | 07:07 |
| mjg59 | dpkg --configure -a | 07:08 |
| sbalneav | ah | 07:09 |
| sbalneav | right. | 07:09 |
| sbalneav | durr | 07:09 |
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| pygi | siretart, oki, not urgent anyway. Do enjoy ;) | 07:17 |
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| mattwalston | There may be an issue with the repos. See http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32516/ | 07:29 |
| dobey | works fine for me | 07:31 |
| mjg59 | mattwalston: More likely there's a cache between you and the server that's screwing things up | 07:31 |
| mattwalston | mjg59: as in on my system? | 07:32 |
| dobey | as in between you and the server | 07:32 |
| dobey | your system isn't a single hop to the server | 07:32 |
| elkbuntu | mattwalston, like your ISP | 07:33 |
| mattwalston | elkbuntu: sounds about right, we have bellsouth afterall | 07:34 |
| elkbuntu | haha | 07:34 |
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| lamont | will gutsy's udev work on feisty? | 08:38 |
| stdin | possibly, but I wouldn't risk it if it's not in -backports | 08:39 |
| lamont | stdin: ah, come on... where's your sense of adventure? | 08:41 |
| stdin | on my development PC :p | 08:42 |
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| Nafallo | the kernel didn't boot for me on feisty atleast :-) | 08:43 |
| Nafallo | 9.25 I think I tried. | 08:43 |
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| pygi | hey folks | 10:08 |
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| tcleval | hi... after the last update my system is slow(3D), how do i know the list of packages of the last fiesty update ? i need to "downdate", so i get my 3D working fine | 11:53 |
| geser | look in /var/log/dpkg.log (but it's not easy to read) | 11:56 |
| tcleval | geser, thx i am going to read it | 11:56 |
| geser | iirc aptitude has also an own log, if you use aptitude | 11:56 |
| tcleval | geser, no i use command line :-) | 11:57 |
| tcleval | geser, ok.. now i have the list of files based on the date of the update.. so how can i downdate? | 11:59 |
| geser | downgrade aren't officially supported but works most of the time | 12:00 |
| geser | you need to find an archive with the old versions or download the old .deb yourself | 12:00 |
| tcleval | geser, thx.. i think the problem is the new mesa packages.. i ll try them first | 12:01 |
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| pygi | <geser> iirc aptitude has also an own log, if you use aptitude | 12:03 |
| pygi | <tcleval> geser, no i use command line :-) | 12:03 |
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