=== CarlFK [n=carl@63.87.149.165] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:29] ScottK: want me to subscribe this bug to u-u-s? [12:30] or vice versa [12:30] Did you fix it? [12:30] yes [12:30] OK. Why is it linked to a Debian bug? [12:31] it started out as a ftbfs bug so i could track its progress while i was figuring it out myself [12:31] I see. [12:31] OK. [12:31] Well it's acked to the archive, so no need for UUS. [12:31] Thanks. [12:31] no, thank _you_ :) === Nightrose [n=lydia@amarok/rokymotion/nightrose] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-001-125.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-016-154.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-210-186.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-086-078.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:56] What is the canonical tool for editing docbook files and getting valid XML back out of the editor? === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:00] good night === RainCT [n=RainCT@unaffiliated/rainct] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving."] === beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-210-186.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:12] can a core dev please review http://groupware.kubuntu.co.uk/openssl_0.9.8e-5ubuntu2.debdiff ? [01:13] ryanakca: #ubuntu-devel might be better for that... [01:15] ryanakca: Why do you have changes outside the debian dir in that diff? === avoine [n=avoine@69.70.0.36] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jason [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:29] Should gnome-panel applet provide a menu and a desktop file :/? [01:34] Jazzva: Depends on the applet. Generally not: usually these are added with "Add to Panel", rather than being launched directly. They should register in the panel, and remain until removed. [01:35] persia: Thanks... Any link where I can find a bit more about applets and where they install? [01:36] Jazzva: I don't know of a link, but the deskbar-applet might be a reasonable example. [01:36] Ok, thanks... I'll take a look === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:37] High there persia. [01:37] Hi even [01:38] ScottK: Hello. [01:40] ScottK: because I included a patch. [01:40] ScottK: gramatical errors in s_client.c [01:41] ryanakca: I mean outside the patch. [01:41] Ah, add quilt to control, update changelog, and add the quilt 'include' line to rules [01:42] umm. wait. [01:42] ... why did it change the Makefile... [01:42] -PLATFORM=debian-amd64 [01:42] +PLATFORM=debian-i386 [01:46] ScottK: It has to do with debuild... http://pastebin.ca/644917 . === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-210-186.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:54] Generally, I would just edit that stuff out of the debdiff. [01:54] filterdiff and editdiff are handy tools for that. === apachelogger_ [n=me@N785P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:13] persia: ardour should finally build now on Ubuntu [02:13] geser: Cool. Thanks for chasing that. I've been a bit distracted the past few weeks :) === astro76 [n=james@unaffiliated/astro76] has joined #ubuntu-motu === justinwray [n=justinwr@c-68-34-224-91.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:21] should mozilla-mplayer conflict totem-mozilla? Because there's not *easy* way to choose a default player for firefox to use that I know of === eggwarmer [n=cnobile@cpe-72-230-125-127.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:25] jrib: Probably not. Conflicts: is more important when there is a shared file, or a shared port that would make it unreasonable to install both. In this case, it's just a matter of a missing preference interface. [02:25] yeah, I agree a preference interface is a better solution === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:41] persia: thanks [02:51] How do you apply/test debdiffs? [02:56] ryanakca: patch -p1 < ../foo.debdiff === _MMA_ [n=_MMA_@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _MMA_ [n=_MMA_@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [02:59] persia: ah, thanks :) === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] [03:19] who was it here that was working on lirc support for umc? === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp59-167-3-232.lns1.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mwolson [i=mwolson@pool-71-115-34-58.sbndin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:37] Any suggestions on docbook editors? [03:41] ScottK: gedit, emacs, vi [03:41] there not good ones, trust me [03:42] there are no, rather [03:42] OK. [03:42] Urgh. [03:42] How about docbook validation tools? [03:42] for that, you need ot talk to mdke` [03:42] OK. [03:43] I've got a package with the man pages in docbook and they are failing on the conversion and I can't figure why. [03:43] Ugh. [03:43] Thanks though. [03:43] Even bad news is better than not knowing. [03:43] ScottK: Dunno if this helps, but I found this: You will need other packages in order to edit (psgml), validate (opensp, libxml2) or format (docbook-xsl, docbook-dsssl) DocBook documents. [03:44] with aptitude show docbook-xml === Acksys [n=acksys@cpe-071-070-084-000.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Acksys [n=acksys@cpe-071-070-084-000.sc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [03:49] Jazzva: Thanks. I'll look into it. [03:49] ScottK: No prob... === javierder [n=javier@34-206-126-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apachelogger__ [n=me@N738P014.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ceros [n=user@c-76-111-84-156.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === desertc [n=desertc@c-68-52-118-61.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === javier_galicia [n=Javier@189.130.233.249] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-218-164.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:56] ScottK: When you say "failing on conversion", do you mean that docbook2x is segfaulting when you try to build? [05:56] No I mean the docbook file is failing validation and the build fails. [05:57] Oh. Not the strange problem I had, then. [05:57] The thing is, even the unmodified file fails. [05:57] I just installed the package, grabbed the nroff version, edited and installed that. [05:59] It's a sad situation when I can honestly say dealing with nroff was easier. [06:02] ScottK: what docbook file? remember, i am a docbook junky === man-di_ [n=mkoch@dyndsl-080-228-197-184.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:02] I did not know that. [06:02] It's the man pages for klamav [06:02] hehe, I only write all of the Kubuntu docs and a lot of the KDE 4 docs, plus KHelpCenter love [06:03] I knew you did the docs, but I didn't know you used docbook. [06:03] xsltproc, docbook-xsl, docbook-xml? [06:04] actually, failing validation is something different [06:04] Any chance you'd have time to apt-get source klamav and run docbook2x-man klamav.1.docbook? [06:04] is there a link so I can look at the docs and provide a fix for you? [06:04] heh [06:04] If you don't want to download the source, I can pastebin the file for you. [06:04] you already said what I should do [06:04] It's short. [06:04] I will get the source, so I can validate it with my xml validator [06:05] i.e. kate and friends :) [06:05] Cool. [06:05] 0.41-0ubuntu4 is the version? [06:05] Yes [06:06] I'm packaging 0.41.1-0ubuntu1 right now. [06:06] doc/en/index.docbook your issue? [06:06] hrmm, if it isn't validating and causing the build to crash, then how did 0.41-0ubuntu4 build? did you cheat it? [06:06] This is the first time I've touched a docbook file in my life. I can spell XML, but only barely. [06:06] haha [06:06] I didn't do it. [06:07] It looks like the man pages haven't been touched in two years. [06:07] I assume they validated two years ago and something changed in the toolset. [06:07] well the docbook files in the version I have are fine [06:08] paste the validation error if you can [06:08] Sure. [06:08] it is failing locally and not on the build server is it? [06:09] Yes. [06:09] I haven't uploaded yet. [06:09] k [06:10] ahh, I am willing to bet it is [06:11] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32448/ [06:11] grr Tonio_ :) [06:12] ok, there has got to be something different in your docbook then there is in mine [06:12] Hmm [06:12] hrmm [06:12] interesting...I can build the version I have just fine === nixternal needs your source [06:13] just copy klamav.1.docbook to pastebin [06:14] Well something is up because I got a clean one from the 41 source and it didn't error. [06:15] good deal [06:15] I'm getting the modified one for you now. [06:16] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32450/ [06:17] nixternal: ^^ [06:17] got it [06:17] OK..it does it here too === nixternal investigates [06:17] And I think I see what it is now. [06:18] I am a muppet [06:18] [06:18] on line 66, do [06:19] That's the muppet line. [06:19] yup [06:19] and then it works like a charm [06:19] I stared and stared at that and didn't see it. [06:19] Looked at it in the pastebin and BAM it lept out at me. [06:19] hehe, validation errors are erroneous anyways [06:20] One related question... [06:20] In pbuilder it whines it can't get the dtd. [06:20] Is that going to be a problem on the buildds? [06:21] nope, it is going to do it there as well [06:21] buildds do not have internet connections, so they can't grab DTD info [06:21] they still build though [06:21] OK. [06:22] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32451/ is the pbuilder error [06:23] that is weird [06:23] I don't get those with my pbuilder [06:23] but you will see those in the buildds [06:24] I checked and the page with the dtd is in fact there. [06:24] hehe, it better be there, otherwise the doc server would die tonight [06:24] Just checking all the options. [06:24] So I don't need to sweat that? [06:25] not in buildds you don't...pbuilder I am a little weary with though [06:26] Well I just lit off the new klamav version on my laptop and it didn't catch on fire. That's something. 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=== Pici [n=Pici@ool-4355be00.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:54] amachu_, http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html [12:56] can he help me on this? [12:57] amachu_: the KDE people hang around in #kubuntu-devel [12:57] okie... [12:57] amachu_, no, but we now have someone with authority publicly saying automatix is capable of blowing up the world, listing over 2 dozen reasons why it's bad [12:57] :-) [12:58] i am looking for a motu mentor [12:58] :-) [12:58] in kubuntu basically === rodserling [n=none@pool-71-124-170-111.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Also,] === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:08] amachu_: you should come to #kubuntu-devel and ask there - but on weekends it is very quit there - maybe you can try during the week [01:09] Nightrose: okie [01:09] thank you [01:10] Some MOTU please review magyarispell (Hungarian spell checker) on REVU http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6330 === Nafallo_ [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apachelogger__ [n=me@N847P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:35] persia! [01:36] StevenK! === Fujitsu celebrates mjg59's Automatix analysis. === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:38] Hi Hobbsee. [01:40] heya Fujitsu, how's it going? [01:40] Fujitsu: Yes, that's a good read. [01:41] wow, nice review of automatix! [01:41] "You people suck, here is why you do" [01:41] yep [01:42] In other news, gtk2hs sucks, too. [01:42] Hobbsee: Not altogether bad! Better since reading mjg59's post, though. [01:44] hehe, yeah === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@5-20.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:56] Can someone merge ~rainct/ubuntu-dev-tools/dev into ~ubuntu-dev/ubuntu-dev-tools/trunk please? === Havis [n=Havis@adsl-d38.84-47-127.t-com.sk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:58] RainCT: What changes have you made? [01:59] And have you made sure you have the latest trunk changes? [02:00] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6327 -> can someone check this one ? === Martinp23 [n=martinp2@wikimedia/Martinp23] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:03] it fix the builds at ubuntu [02:03] it's not building the package [02:05] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/7567284/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-i386.stfl_0.8-2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz === apachelogger [n=me@N849P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:07] TheMuso: yes it's the latest (downloaded yesterday and merged this morning with your commit) [02:07] Ok. [02:07] RainCT: Ok, I'll merge now. [02:08] Kmos: I'm now a little confused. What do you want examined? Why 0.8-2 doesn't build? Whether 0.15-1ubuntu1 should be uploaded? [02:08] ok, thanks [02:10] persia: 0.8-2 and others vesions.. like the newest one on debian can't be synced, because debian/rules is bugged [02:11] so i've prepared the package to got it uploaded [02:11] Kmos: Ah. It FTBFS for me :) [02:11] it doesn't build on i386, amd64, sparc, nothing on ubuntu [02:11] i've also sent a patch to the maintainer.. [02:11] to fix it in next versions [02:11] Kmos: Your new package FTBFS for me as well. [02:12] TheMuso: Changes are: Finish the README, unify all script headers, improve what-patch and check-symbols, rewrite suspicious-source [02:12] changelog: [02:12] * Fixed debian/rules with CFLAGS not placed correctly. Thanks to Adam [02:12] Conrad. Now it builds fine in all archs. [02:12] :) [02:12] RainCT: Yeah saw that, changes are going up now. [02:12] Kmos: That's what it says in the changelog. Still, FTBFS here. [02:12] persia :-) [02:13] MOTUs: please review magyarispell (Hungarian spell checker) on REVU http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6330 [02:13] persia: you can approve it ? [02:13] !ftbfs [02:13] Sorry, I don't know anything about ftbfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [02:13] coNP: You've outstanding lintian/linda errors for that upload. You'd do best to address those first :) [02:14] it should appear [02:14] Kmos: Yes, but I won't because it cannot be built locally for me. [02:14] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FTBFS [02:14] persia: REVU lintian errors, none @ my home [02:14] persia: but I try to fix them [02:14] persia: why not ? [02:14] However it is quite bad that you run lintian, correct errors, upload package... and get errors again :( [02:14] persia: not with a machine with pbuilder? =) [02:15] Kmos: True, but the buildds and I run sbuild. [02:15] coNP: I'll take a deeper look then. [02:15] persia: it builds fine with pbuilder === cassidy [n=cassidy@cable-87-244-153-189.upc.chello.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:15] persia: okay, sorry. But in general we should consider using the same version of lintian on REVU. [02:16] Kmos: Yes, but it doesn't build here, which is as close as I've been able to construct to the actual buildds, so I have no confidence that it will build there. [02:16] persia: what's the error? [02:16] Kmos: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6327 [02:17] ok [02:18] persia: what command do you use to build it? [02:18] Kmos: sbuild -A -d gutsy stfl_0.15-1ubuntu1.dsc [02:18] thx === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.142.50.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:20] persia: mailto not set ? [02:21] Kmos: Could I please have a little more context for that? [02:21] kmos@bash:~/packages/stfl$ sbuild -A -d gutsy stfl_0.15-1ubuntu1.dsc [02:21] mailto not set [02:23] Kmos: Ah. You probably need to configure it :) I recommend https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SbuildLVMHowto [02:23] thanks [02:24] persia: fixed. Only NMU and unknown distro is what lintian complains about now. [02:24] coNP: Excellent. I'll take a fresh look now. Thanks. [02:24] Thank *you* :) [02:28] persia: can you tell someone else to try it.. i'll not try with sbuild, too much work when I've pbuilder that worked always fine and after in buildds === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:29] Kmos: I'm not anyone else's manager. You could ask someone else. [02:32] coNP: can you test it ? =) [02:32] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6327 [02:32] coNP: Looks OK to me, with one additional minor point. On the other hand, you'll need core-dev sponsorship for upload. [02:33] persia: Hmm. You are right. I have overlooked this. :) [02:33] Thanks for reviewing, I try to fix the minor point and look for someone at -devel. [02:34] coNP: Good luck. Also, the build output is entirely in magyar nyelv. If that's a locale adjustment, it might do well with a patch. If it's just upstream being lazy, no need to change anything. [02:35] It is upstream. It is Hungarian spell checker, I think it is not a problem. [02:35] "Hungarian".l18n(hu_HU) = "magyar nyelv" [02:36] oh god :) [02:36] coNP: Not really a problem then :) I just feared that there might have been a local locale adjustment in the code somewhere. [02:41] Kmos: pbuilder is fine, sbuild cannot be installed for now, Hash Sum mismatch. Sorry === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:41] persia: i think it's really a problem in sbuild [02:41] coNP: very thank you [02:41] Kmos: Perhaps, but the buildds run sbuild, so you may encounter it there as well. [02:41] coNP: Whats the package [02:41] Kmos: you should check with sbuild, once you can install it [02:42] TheMuso: which package? :) [02:42] I have a sbuild setup. [02:42] TheMuso: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6327 [02:42] Oh, it is Kmos's problem. ^^ [02:42] oh ok === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:42] TheMuso: persia has already checked, I don't think it is worth running it if you don't plan to try to fix it as well. [02:43] ok [02:44] :( [02:44] Actually, running it on !amd64 might be a good test. The specific compiler error I encountered might be architecture-related. [02:45] Well I have i386 her. [02:45] here [02:45] me too [02:45] Then it might be not pbuilder/sbuilder but i386 / x64 related. [02:45] I doubt very much that it is a pbuilder/sbuild issue. [02:48] persia: you've amd64 ? [02:49] Kmos: Yes. === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === amachu [n=amachu@122.164.171.131] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _MMA_ [n=_MMA_@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:55] https://launchpad.net/~serpentine-dev/ -> python coders, this project needs your help. [02:55] so how can I fix it, if I don't have amd64? [02:58] As usual: buy a new computer :) [02:58] hehe [02:58] i've a laptop core2duo but with i386 also [02:58] with gutsy [02:58] Kmos: You should be able to fix it with -fPIC. [02:59] persia: it has -fPIC on the start of debian/rules [02:59] that the problem also at i386 [02:59] and it's fixed now, with help from infinity === tsmithe [n=toby@ubuntu/member/tsmithe] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:59] CFLAGS += -fPIC [03:00] Kmos: The FTBFS I am reporting is the lack of -fPIC. The problem with 0.8-2 is that the syntax of the makefile is not correct. [03:00] http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/stfl-0708031345/stfl-0.15/debian/rules [03:00] Can some core-dev review / sponsor my magyarispell REVU upload (http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6332), please? === _jason [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:02] Kmos: I see that. Perhaps it's not getting exported cleanly? === avoine [n=avoine@modemcable003.251-59-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xtknight [n=xtknight@c-68-43-120-159.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:07] hi - could someone upload ubuntustudio-sounds from revu again, this time fixing a licensing quibble (as the diff at http://revu.tauware.de/diff.py?upid1=5990&upid2=6292 will show) - the revu page is at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6292 [03:08] tsmithe: Are you sure this is ok to go in this time? === amachu_ [n=amachu@122.164.243.155] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:09] thanks [03:10] TheMuso, hehe yes. or at least it fixes the last issue pitti had with it [03:10] he didn't point out any others === TheMuso sighs. [03:10] Ok. [03:10] I'll upload again. [03:11] thanks [03:13] <_MMA_> tsmithe: So you talked to pitti and found out what he meant by "stanza"? [03:14] well, it was in the rejection e-mail from him; it just took some time for it to come down the rather small hotel pipeline [03:14] <_MMA_> k === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:21] anyone here knows how to run a pbuilder amd64 on my i386 arch machine ? [03:22] Kmos: -ENOTSUPPORTED [03:23] i386 can't run amd64 code. [03:23] Fujitsu: amd64 hardware, i386 distro. Not even in a chroot? [03:23] Surely it depends if the processor can do long mode. [03:24] i386 machine... [03:24] Kmos: Try adding --debootstrapopts --arch amd64 . I run on amd64 natively, so it's definetly a possibility that the 32 bit kernel running won't be able to deal with 64 bit pointers being thrown around. [03:25] Um, yeah, i386 kernel will *not* like that. [03:25] Your processor might not want to enable long mode from protected, either. [03:26] hmm [03:27] and i've a core2duo (64-bit) laptop with ubuntu gutsy i386 installed [03:27] there i can try the --debootstrapopts --arch amd64 [03:27] it should work [03:27] It probbably won't, but try it anyway. [03:28] so i'll have a big problem [03:28] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6327 [03:28] i need to fix this.. persia can't run it on amd64 [03:28] i386 is fixed [03:29] Install a small amd64 install? [03:29] Kmos: If nothing else, you could try a dual-boot, if you can get 5GB or so free on a disk. [03:29] 5GB!? [03:30] persia: i can even kill my gutsy and download a amd64 version =) === xtknight [n=xtknight@c-68-43-120-159.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:30] and upgrade this feisty to gutsy :D [03:30] Fujitsu: Sure. I've yet to find a package I can't build in a 5GB environment, with only base and build-essential installed. [03:30] so i'll have two gutsy's with i386 and amd64 for testing [03:30] =) [03:30] Or even just install an amd64 kernel and modules? [03:30] persia: 5GB is rather overkill. [03:31] Fujitsu: Depends on the package, I guess. Perhaps I'll try a smaller slice size. What do you use? [03:31] I should only use the "requestsync" script if I am a MOTU, right? [03:31] coNP: you can use it with -s [03:31] coNP: If you're running the gutsy version, there's a -s option for non-MOTUs. [03:31] If I were in Kmos' position I would probably give it 2-3GiB... 5GiB for a full desktop environment, perhaps. [03:32] Thanks Hobbsee :) [03:33] tsmithe: ubuntustudio-sounds uploaded... hopefully for the last time. [03:33] yes - thanks :) [03:33] (i hope so too) [03:34] Fujitsu: Hmm.. 5GB does a full desktop, but I just assumed I might need that for some of the builds. I'll try something smaller: perhaps I can squeeze another release in. Thanks. [03:35] Some huge things might need more, but I've not run out of space. === TheMuso uses 3GB LVs for sbuild. [03:36] With another 5GB spare at least on the LVM partition. === StevenK has 175Gb kicking around on his LVM partition. === persia needs new hard drives, less data, or no mirrors. === coNP needs a core-dev sponsor, becoming a MOTU and much more patience :) === norsetto [n=norsetto@host228-213-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi01 [n=chatzill@dyn3-82-128-187-190.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:45] TheMuso: 6333 FTBFS for me. Are you sure about debian/install? [03:45] persia: I'll have a look. [03:45] oh of course. === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.142.50.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:48] TheMuso: Also, it looks like there's an extra i in the postrm [03:48] ugh just uploaded to revu again. Let me check. [03:48] persia, TheMuso: ardour is now in binary NEW [03:49] geser: I saw. [03:49] Thanks heaps. [03:49] geser: Thanks a lot. With that and ubuntustudio-default-settings, I think we have all the pieces. [03:50] persia: Going up to revu again... [03:50] Ok should show up soon. [03:56] TheMuso: lintian reports gconftool-used-in-maintainer-script. [03:56] persia: Well its a schema file. I just copied what is done in other apckages such as gnome-panel. [03:57] I'll need to look further into that then... [03:59] TheMuso: It's only informational. lintian suggests gconf-schemas or update-gconf-defaults instead. [03:59] Right [04:00] persia: gnome-panel-data does the same thing, so I am not concerned. === axxo [n=axxo@83.217.70.247] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:01] TheMuso: OK. I'll let it go for now, but I still don't think it's good (and don't like it for gnome-panel-data either). [04:01] TheMuso: 6335 advocated. Have fun. [04:01] persia: Well take that up with seb128 [04:02] TheMuso: Yeah, I know. Still :) [04:02] persia: Thanks === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === thekorn_ [n=thekorn@a89-182-12-175.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@123.116.103.144] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying__ [n=freeflyi@123.116.101.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu === guardian_ [n=Guardian@ANantes-252-1-67-37.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LucidFox [n=sikon@wikia/Sikon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === axxo [n=axxo@83.217.70.247] has joined #ubuntu-motu === axxo [n=axxo@83.217.70.247] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gouki [n=gouki@ubuntu/member/gouki] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee unsubscribes u-u-s from that darned flash bug. [04:49] yay, sanity prevails! === jekil [n=alessand@host228-234-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:00] What is the standard way to ask for a main sponsor? [05:00] (I cannot subscribe u-m-s for REVU) === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:09] -join 3cairo [05:09] oops === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu === CarlFK [n=carl@63.87.149.165] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:32] Good $TIME_OF_DAY all. === nate_ [n=nate@c-98-193-39-232.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=tuxmania@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jekil2 [n=alessand@151.82.3.170] has joined #ubuntu-motu === justinwray [n=justinwr@c-68-34-224-91.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gasten [n=Gasten@h52n9c1o1095.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:06] coNP: there is a launchpad group for that === amachu_ [n=amachu@122.164.175.160] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Baby [n=miry@195.37.62.208] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jekil2 is now known as jekil === Jazzva [n=sasa@cable-89-216-184-157.dynamic.sbb.co.yu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blueCommand [n=blueComm@unaffiliated/bluecommand] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mohammad [n=mohammad@CPE001346f4a717-CM0011aea585d0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xtknight [n=xtknight@c-68-43-120-159.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:22] Hello, how should a beta version of a package be named? would someone please guide me? === rainct [n=RainCT@unaffiliated/rainct] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:25] Hello mohammad. [06:26] It looks like you are getting close with Zekr. [06:26] What's the package name/version going to be one it's released? [06:27] it is not for the Ubuntu repositories. anyway: zekr/0.6.0 beta2 === desertc [n=desertc@c-68-52-118-61.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@broadband-196-1-61-45.amobia.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdstrand [n=james@mail.strandboge.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:31] ScottK ^ [06:31] For a Debian/Ubuntu package I would number that 0.6.0~0beta2 because ~ comes before - in the Debian version numbering order. [06:32] The the release would be 0.6.0-0ubuntu1 for Ubuntu or 0.6.0-1 for Debian. [06:33] mohammad: On another note, did you understand the comments on the copyright issues with the zekr-extras package? [06:36] ScottK: I will split the package as emmet.hikory asked with another name. we are still working on the copyright issues. [06:38] ScottK: and how shoud I name the src directory? zekr-0.6.0 or zekr-0.6.0+beta2 ? [06:40] or zekr-0.6.0~beta2 [06:41] mohammad: Do you want to be able to have people have multiple versions installed side by side or have a smooth upgrade path to the final release? === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.142.50.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:43] Actually, nevermind. [06:43] I'd do zekr-0.6.0+beta2. [06:45] ScottK: smooth upgrade path to the final release [06:45] I thought it over, and you do want the package dir to be unique for each release (beta or not). [06:45] Same thing with the tarball. [06:46] mohammad: zekr-0.6.0~beta2 unless the release is going to be 0.6.1 [06:47] | uniq :-) [06:47] ~ comes before NULL [06:47] - separates parts [06:47] ScottK: ^^ [06:47] Hi there lamont. [06:47] Didn't notice you hanging out here. [06:48] mohammad: and when you unpack the source with dpkg-source -x, it'll be zekr-${UPSTREAMVERS} [06:48] no matter what you called it in orig.tar.gz [06:48] ScottK: generally I don't [06:48]