[12:30] <alpaca> How do I use a patch such as the ones found on this page: http://www.eskil.org/mythtv/
[12:30] <alpaca> without breaking shit :)
[12:34] <kalidma> laga I changed the location on the masterbackend to /mnt/mythtvmasterbackend/myth/video
[12:35] <kalidma> when i goto video manager it says the movies are now missing and shows no videos found
[12:35] <laga> yes
[12:35] <laga> because you changed the path.
[12:35] <kalidma> right
[12:36] <kalidma> Ok I am probably missing the next part but isnt   /mnt/mythtvmasterbackend/myth/video symbollically pointing to /myth/video on the backend.  The videos are still their so shouldnt it see them? Or do I need to restart nfs or reboot?
[12:37] <alpaca> did you symlink that
[12:37] <kalidma> yes
[12:37] <alpaca> if there werent errors then yes it should be symlinked
[12:38] <kalidma> ok so the slavefrontend can see the videos if I point to that directory
[12:38] <kalidma> so what am i doing wrong?
[12:44] <kalidma> On the backend I have a /mnt directory in it I have /mythtvslavefrontend, video, gallery, music
[12:44] <kalidma> So would the proper path on the backend be /mnt/video ???
[12:48] <kalidma> Man I wish I could get this right!!!!
[12:49] <kalidma> Ok pointing toward /mnt/video on the mythtvmasterbackend did not work
[12:51] <kalidma> Did I lose everyone?
[12:54] <kalidma> I dont have a mythtvmasterbackend directory on the backend in the /mnt directory I have it on the slave.  So the path of /mnt/mythtvmasterbackend/myth/video is not going to work right?
[12:55] <alpaca> maybe you should just verify the folder structures
[12:55] <alpaca> type them exactly
[12:55] <alpaca> and re-create the symlinks
[12:55] <alpaca> then rinse/repeat
[12:55] <alpaca> and report your results
[12:56] <kalidma> ok i looked at the document that i was supposed to follow and it does say /mnt/video would be the proper place
[01:30] <alpaca> When applying a .patch file, does it matter where in the directory structure I am located?
[01:32] <laga> yes
[01:33] <laga> note you can adjust that a bit using the patch level
[01:33] <alpaca> alright
[01:33] <laga> -p0, -p1 etc
[01:35] <alpaca> alrighthttp://pastebin.ca/644903
[01:35] <alpaca> so for that patch say - ha
[01:35] <alpaca> should I be in the mythtv user dir?
[01:36] <alpaca> wait nevermidn
[01:36] <laga> you should in the directory which contains myththemes/
[01:36] <alpaca> right
[01:37] <alpaca> alright hopefully this will go well and without issue
[01:37] <alpaca> thanks laga :D
[01:39] <laga> heh
[01:40] <DaveMorris> does the mythbuntu site work for you guys?
[01:40] <laga> n o
[01:40] <laga> no*
[01:47] <DaveMorris> laga you got a link to a mirror so I can grab the alpha3
[01:47] <DaveMorris> or the torrent file
[02:24] <billbrasky> so i'm doing an install of the latest mythbuntu release - what's the situation with xorg in this release
[02:24] <billbrasky> meaning will i have to specify resolution & modelines for my HDTV ?
[02:30] <replman> hi! I have a problem with mythweb. When i enter localhost/mythweb into my browser i get an error:
[02:30] <replman> Error at /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/includes/init.php, line 301:
[02:30] <replman> require_once(includes/config.php) [function.require-once] : failed to open stream: No such file or directory
[02:31] <alpaca> type in ip address
[02:31] <alpaca> http://192.168.1.XXX/mythweb
[02:31] <alpaca> or is that what ya did
[02:31] <replman> nope, same result
[02:32] <replman> http://192.168.0.200/mythweb/
[02:34] <replman> Hm, the config.php in /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/includes is a symbolic link to /etc/mythtv/mythweb-config.php. But this file does not exist
[02:36] <alpaca> there ya go
[02:43] <replman> alpaca: where do i get this file from?
[02:43] <alpaca> hmm
[02:44] <alpaca> not sure sir
[02:45] <replman> strange thing. Seems something wents wrong on installation
[02:45] <replman> I'm going to reinstall it
[02:46] <billbrasky> hm, how is it I choose to install mythbuntu just as the site is unavailable
[02:48] <replman> very strange. I had this running before and everything worked fine
[02:49] <replman> i have to go to bed now, it's 3 in the morning ;-). Maybe i fix this tomorrow. Thank you!
[02:50] <replman> bye!
[03:58] <yotux> how can I help?
[04:26] <jumpkick> web server is down eh
[04:32] <alpaca> who all's here
[04:34] <alpaca> ...awesome
[04:38] <tgm4883_laptop> im here
[04:38] <yotux> hello alpaca
[04:38] <alpaca> hey fellas
[04:39] <alpaca> do either of you gents know about installing an add-on patch such as this: http://www.eskil.org/mythtv/
[04:39] <yotux> do you guys know if mythbuntu can be run likea lamp server?
[04:41] <yotux> alpaca: sorry I have just come accrost mythtv
[04:41] <Tari> yotux, there's nothing stopping it
[04:42] <tgm4883_laptop> alpaca, not sure, im more familiar with plugins
[04:42] <yotux> I have a lamp serve with about 1tb of music and video at the moment
[04:42] <yotux> looking for a nice way to view it around the hosue and away from the house.
[04:46] <yotux> can you guys recommend a good capture card?
[04:48] <jumpkick> are there any mirrors of http://www.mythbuntu.org/ ?
[04:50] <billbrasky> argh, i can't install right now cuz both mythbuntu.org and mirror.cs.umn.edu are down
[04:50] <jumpkick> since it's down http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/tracert.ch?ip=http://mythbuntu.org/
[04:54] <billbrasky> hrm, kinda surprised the installer doesn't have a network section
[04:58] <tgm4883_laptop> yotux, HD or SD
[04:58] <yotux> possibly both
[04:58] <yotux> I have sat which is sd but I have local hd channels
[04:58] <tgm4883_laptop> well the pvr 150 is a good SD card
[04:59] <tgm4883_laptop> if you want local HD channels, then I would recommend the pcHDTV 5500
[05:00] <yotux> I am assuming a hd card is backward compatible
[05:00] <tgm4883_laptop> what exactly do you mean
[05:00] <jumpkick> yotux: tht would be a bad assumption
[05:00] <jumpkick> yotux: HD = ATSC, SD = NTSC
[05:01] <jumpkick> they are quite different
[05:01] <yotux> thankz for the quick hd lesson
[05:02] <yotux> wheres my dunce cap
[05:02] <tgm4883_laptop> they have cards that do both if thats what you want
[05:02] <jumpkick> yotux: I have an HD5000 PCI card which does only ATSC in Linux
[05:02] <tgm4883_laptop> but none I would recommend, other than streaming over firewire
[05:03] <yotux> I am thinking that to capture cards seems more apporaite
[05:03] <jumpkick> I also have a FusionHDTV Gold 5 USB, the tuner can do ATSC and NTSC, but linux only supports ATSC (HD)
[05:04] <yotux> The states are fumbling with hd as a standard
[05:04] <jumpkick> HD is nice because it doesn't have to be encoded (it's an MPEG2 stream)
[05:04] <jumpkick> SD has to be encoded by a capture card
[05:04] <jumpkick> or a CPU
[05:05] <yotux> theres not allot of hd out there yet :(
[05:10] <jumpkick> yotux: I get a fair bit of HD where I am -- http://www.remotecentral.com/hdtv/
[05:13] <tgm4883_laptop> I get a lot of HD here, stream most via firewire with a HD5500 for backup
[06:32] <foxbuntu> DaveMorris, nice work on the logo change
[06:34] <tgm4883_laptop> anyone know a contact for imbrandon?
[06:38] <alpaca> where is the /myththemes/ folder?
[06:47] <tgm4883_laptop> you mean /usr/share/mythtv/themes
[06:54] <alpaca> where is the mythmusic folder located?
[06:54] <alpaca> I want to apply this patch http://www.eskil.org/mythtv/patches/shoutcast-13855.patch
[06:55] <alpaca> and i'm having a damn hard time locating the proper folder
[06:55] <foxbuntu> alapca, the mythmusic folder is where ever you put it
[06:55] <foxbuntu> you have to set it in the Setup in the front end
[06:55] <alpaca> oh right
[06:55] <alpaca> har
[06:56] <foxbuntu> or are you talking about the actual mythmusic plugin?
[06:56] <alpaca> well I want to add shoutcast support
[06:56] <alpaca> http://www.eskil.org/mythtv/ does that
[06:56] <alpaca> and was last updated july 10, 07
[06:56] <alpaca> leading me to believe it works with the current mythtv dist
[06:57] <foxbuntu> yea...I warn against add-ins like this with myth though
[06:57] <alpaca> hmm
[06:57] <alpaca> :(
[06:57] <alpaca> if it will fuck shit up, i wont do it
[06:57] <alpaca> but damn i really want internet radio
[06:59] <foxbuntu> I would suggest waiting for something like this to get supported upstream in MythTV
[07:00] <foxbuntu> there are allot of really neat ideas out there for things like this but they are mostly unstable right now
[07:04] <foxbuntu> yeah...I wouldn't get involved with this...it does allot of changes to allot of things
[07:06] <alpaca> alright
[07:06] <alpaca> thats all i needed to know
[07:06] <alpaca> with what frequency is mythtv updated with new plugins etc
[07:07] <foxbuntu> seems to be about every 4 - 6 months as stable release
[07:07] <foxbuntu> 0.21 will be out soon
[07:08] <foxbuntu> its less legit if its not even SVN
[07:08] <foxbuntu> the supported dev work goes into SVN
[07:08] <alpaca> ah
[07:09] <foxbuntu> I am hoping that MythWeb's overhaul makes it into the 0.21 code base
[07:18] <alpaca> oh?
[07:18] <alpaca> does it improve greatly upon previous iterations?
[12:52] <laga> re
[01:38] <laga> hey guys.
[01:38] <laga> shouldn't we try to get our mythbuntu mailing list archived at gossamer?
[02:00] <hugol1> laga can I ask you a question?
[02:35] <laga> hugol1: sure
[02:35] <laga> i dunno if you'll get an answer, though :)
[02:37] <hugol1> hehe
[02:37] <hugol1> how did you get the hosing for mythbuntu?
[02:37] <hugol1> *hosting
[02:38] <laga> dunno, i'm not that involved.. AFAIK, it's a co-located server somewhere
[02:39] <hugol1> ok
[03:11] <billbrasky> any chance of the site coming back online soon?
[03:20] <laga> i hope so :(
[03:21] <laga> Daviey: do you remember who's hosting us?
[03:39] <billbrasky> http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ is down as well
[03:39] <laga> great :(
[03:41] <billbrasky> yea i was surprised the install needed repo access....
[03:41] <billbrasky> maybe for nvidia drviver?
[03:56] <laga> maybe it checks for new packages *shrug*
[04:24] <defendguin> how is mythtv on gutsy so far?
[06:40] <scd> hi
[08:57] <jumpkick> is there a torrent of mythbuntu alpha 3?
[08:57] <jumpkick> or would the tracker be down because the site is down
[08:59] <jumpkick> Ah, there is http://linuxtracker.org/torrents-details.php?id=4406
[09:30] <donovangn> has mythbuntu.org been down for a couple of days?
[09:31] <tgm4883_laptop> since yesterday
[09:32] <donovangn> too much traffic since releasing Alpha 3?
[09:32] <tgm4883_laptop> doubt it, the ISO's are on a seperate server AFAIK
[09:32] <tgm4883_laptop> not really sure what happened
[09:32] <chuk> anyone know what the default username is for mythweb on mythbuntu?
[09:33] <tgm4883_laptop> username for mythweb?
[09:33] <chuk> yeah, to access the URL
[09:33] <tgm4883_laptop> there shouldn't be one unless you set something up that way
[09:33] <chuk> I know I set up a password
[09:33] <chuk> during the install
[09:33] <chuk> but I didn't specify a username
[09:34] <tgm4883_laptop> I didn't even know you could set up a password for mythweb during the install
[09:34] <chuk> this was using mythbuntu
[09:34] <tgm4883_laptop> you could try either mythtv or whatever username you chose for your system
[09:34] <tgm4883_laptop> those are the only 2 things I can think of
[09:34] <chuk> tried those...
[09:35] <donovangn> hrm, I just installed Alpha 3 and it never asked me for a mythweb password, my fresh install isn't password protected either
[09:35] <chuk> I was an option
[09:35] <tgm4883_laptop> let me do a quick install in a VM and see if I can figure it out
[09:35] <tgm4883_laptop> where was the option
[09:35] <chuk> I chose to create a password
[09:35] <donovangn> was that the advanced section?
[09:35] <chuk> yes, I did adavanced install, backend only
[09:35] <chuk> primary backend
[09:35] <chuk> was in the first couple of steps
[09:37] <tgm4883_laptop> I suppose you also tried root and admin
[09:37] <chuk> yup
[09:37] <tgm4883_laptop> and mythbuntu
[09:38] <chuk> yup
[09:38] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[09:38] <tgm4883_laptop> is it just mythweb that needs a password, or all web pages on your backend
[09:39] <chuk> I can get to the plain old apache url
[09:39] <chuk> to my IP
[09:39] <chuk> but thats all I have on there
[09:39] <chuk> fresh install
[09:39] <tgm4883_laptop> no apache2-default directory?
[09:39] <chuk> thats
[09:39] <chuk> there
[09:39] <chuk> sorry
[09:40] <tgm4883_laptop> can you go there?
[09:40] <chuk> it says "It works!" when I get in there
[09:40] <tgm4883_laptop> ok, so it's mythweb specific
[09:40] <chuk> yes, and I definately set up a password
[09:40] <chuk> which I have typed in of course
[09:40] <chuk> but I can't remember if it told me the username
[09:43] <tgm4883_laptop> do you have a /etc/apache/basicauth
[09:44] <chuk> I don't have /etc/apache, but I have /etc/apache2
[09:44] <chuk> but no basicauth
[09:44] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[09:44] <tgm4883_laptop> you said it was a backend only install
[09:44] <chuk> yes
[09:46] <tgm4883_laptop> bad news, you set the username too, so it could be whatever you named it
[09:46] <chuk> hmm
[09:46] <tgm4883_laptop> but let me see if I can find where it keeps it
[09:46] <chuk> got it!
[09:46] <tgm4883_laptop> nice
[09:47] <chuk> I figured it was a mythtv supplied one, so I didn't even think of the stuff I normally use
[09:47] <chuk> getting old
[09:48] <chuk> any tips of solving the infamous "can't access tty" error?
[09:48] <chuk> on the install
[09:48] <tgm4883_laptop> theres a can't access tty error?
[09:48] <chuk> I have a via ex based system, and I can install edgy fine, but not feisty
[09:48] <chuk> yeah, I found a billion references to it, but none of the solutions worked
[09:49] <chuk> it seems to be a pretty general error
[09:49] <chuk> because they re-did the IDE stuff for Feisty
[09:49] <tgm4883_laptop> can you install gutsy though, as that is what mythbuntu is based on
[09:49] <chuk> same problem with gutsy
[09:50] <chuk> and if I install edgy, and upgrade to feisty
[09:50] <chuk> it breaks the system
[09:50] <tgm4883_laptop> can you force using the old libata driver?
[09:50] <chuk> with the  /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[09:50] <chuk> not sure, is that just a boot option?
[09:51] <tgm4883_laptop> not sure how to do it, was just a thought as that is what changed the IDE stuff
[09:51] <chuk> yeah
[09:51] <chuk> it seems like some people fixed it by changing where their drives were installed (master/slave)
[09:51] <chuk> some people fixed it by changing their DVD player to a plain old CD-ROM
[09:52] <chuk> and about 50 other different fixes
[10:19] <Daviey> laga: late reply - it's imbrandon
[10:20] <Daviey> he works for a huge hosting company
[10:20] <tgm4883_laptop> do we have a contact for him?
[10:21] <Daviey> tgm4883_laptop: do you need to contact him?
[10:22] <tgm4883_laptop> not really, as long as someone knows that the sites down
[10:22] <Daviey> is it?!
[10:22] <tgm4883_laptop> yep
[10:22] <Daviey> eek
[10:22] <tgm4883_laptop> been down since yesterday
[10:22] <Daviey> his site is also down
[10:22] <Daviey> brandon@imbrandon.com <-- his contact
[10:23] <tgm4883_laptop> well thats if he can even get email
[10:23] <Daviey> v. true
[10:23] <tgm4883_laptop> you want me to email him?  I dont think i have ever spoken to him
[10:23] <Daviey> he does have a dedicated mail server, but if his personal blog is also down - maybe it's a *big* prob
[10:24] <tgm4883_laptop> could be
[10:24] <Daviey> hmm.. i suspect his @ubuntu.com forwards to his perosnal one - so that's no good
[10:24] <Daviey> hmm.. would it be worth phoning him :?
[10:25] <tgm4883_laptop> err, if his site is down, and our site is down.  Maybe shoot the email first, would it bounce back if the email was down?
[10:26] <Daviey> probably not.. normally keeps retrying for upto 24hrs
[10:26] <tgm4883_laptop> oh
[10:26] <tgm4883_laptop> well i don't think a quick < 5 min phone call would hurt
[10:30] <Daviey> no reply
[10:31] <tgm4883_laptop> oh phone?
[10:31] <tgm4883_laptop> on
[10:32] <Daviey> yeah.. on phone
[10:32] <tgm4883_laptop> well we tried
[10:32] <tgm4883_laptop> any other ideas?
[10:34] <Daviey> he is normally on irc
[10:35] <tgm4883_laptop> i haven't seen him in here since its been down
[10:41] <Daviey> hm.. /whowas doesn't remember him