| LaserJock | ok, I'm confused. What's the difference between kde4libs and kdelibs5? | 12:22 |
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| mhb | LaserJock: kde4libs doesn't exist | 12:43 |
| LaserJock | mhb: hmm, interesting, I wonder why synaptic is showing it to me then | 12:45 |
| stdin | update your package list? it was the old name for it | 12:45 |
| LaserJock | interesting, it just deps on kdelibs5 | 12:45 |
| LaserJock | must be a transitional package | 12:46 |
| LaserJock | that's kinda confusing | 12:46 |
| mhb | LaserJock: there's no such package in my repos | 12:46 |
| LaserJock | mhb: feisty universe | 12:47 |
| mhb | LaserJock: ah, feisty. Well, it's not in gutsy anymore. | 12:47 |
| LaserJock | why was it renamed? it seem quite inconsistent when everything else seems to be kde4* and I would at least expect it to be kdelib4 | 12:48 |
| mhb | LaserJock: it's totally confusing, I'm saying that all the time. | 12:48 |
| mhb | LaserJock: there was the debian package kdelibs4, which contained kde3 libraries ... so they just ++ it. | 12:49 |
| LaserJock | blah :-) | 12:49 |
| mhb | LaserJock: silly, I know. The best thing you can do is tell your opinion to Riddell or some other maintainer involved with kde4. | 12:51 |
| LaserJock | I just wondered what the reasoning was, I figured it must be something like that | 12:52 |
| LaserJock | alrighty, installing now, we'll see what all this KDE4 stuff is all about ;-) | 12:55 |
| mhb | LaserJock: about being unstable, mainly :o) | 12:57 |
| LaserJock | heh, well I only have a few apps I'm interested in | 12:57 |
| LaserJock | I'll be running it in Gnome, so we'll see | 12:58 |
| LaserJock | I don't mind some stability | 12:58 |
| LaserJock | geeze, kdelib5 is almost 100MB | 01:11 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 02:30 |
| DaSkreech | yo yo | 02:32 |
| bddebian | Hi DaSkreech | 02:32 |
| DaSkreech | How goes? | 02:32 |
| bddebian | Fair to midland thanks. You? | 02:33 |
| mhb | manchicken|away: remember when I sent you the suggestion on how the adept-batch caption should be called? | 02:35 |
| manchicken | mhb: Yeah, I haven't been able to get that done yet. | 04:01 |
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| DaSkreech | Wheee | 04:18 |
| DaSkreech | Lots of work to be done on kss | 04:18 |
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| TheInfinity | hmm ... | 04:27 |
| TheInfinity | knetworkmanager does not like me :( | 04:28 |
| Hobbsee | oh, i've just had a thought | 04:29 |
| ScottK2 | Uh oh. | 04:29 |
| Hobbsee | knetworkmanager seems to hate unencrypted networks, with ipw2945 cards. | 04:29 |
| ScottK2 | ;-) | 04:29 |
| Hobbsee | there's a bug on it | 04:29 |
| ScottK2 | Yes. | 04:29 |
| Hobbsee | so *that's* why i always have to use the old manual method while at uni | 04:30 |
| ScottK2 | That would make sense. | 04:30 |
| TheInfinity | knetworkmanager does not like my ethernet adaper at all :/ | 04:30 |
| TheInfinity | he does not even show my rj45 lan | 04:30 |
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| Hobbsee | ScottK2: heh :) | 04:30 |
| ScottK2 | It works fine with my D-Link DWL-G650 rev C2. | 04:31 |
| Hobbsee | no, it seems to be a ipw3945 thing | 04:32 |
| Hobbsee | and those are nice cards (the dlinks) | 04:32 |
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| mhb | manchicken_: adept_notifier is in reality adept_notifier_and_also_apport_handler ? | 07:37 |
| mhb | manchicken_: now I didn't know that | 07:37 |
| fdoving | mhb: how is your grub-config-project going? | 07:41 |
| fdoving | hi btw. :) | 07:41 |
| mhb | fdoving: hi, xerosis (who's not here atm) took over it because I am pretty busy with SoC this summer... but I haven't heard from him lately | 07:44 |
| mhb | fdoving: I'll ask him | 07:44 |
| fdoving | ok, just curious. jhutchins suggested we should have such a tool and your project came to mind. :) | 07:45 |
| mhb | fdoving: hmm, xerosis hasn't done much with it in the last few weeks | 07:49 |
| fdoving | ok. | 07:49 |
| mhb | fdoving: OTOH, one of the SoCers is developing a similar tool for Ubuntu and I gave him a backend I created, so I wonder if we could merge it back and create a quick frontend for it | 07:50 |
| fdoving | that would be cool. | 07:51 |
| mhb | LaserJock should be mentoring him, I'll ask him when he's around | 07:51 |
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| mhb | manchicken__: has one of you manchickens noticed my question or did I ask in a bad time? | 08:15 |
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| nixternal | howdy people! | 09:05 |
| mhb | howdy nixternal | 09:05 |
| nixternal | I slept way to long | 09:06 |
| nixternal | I shut the blinds in the room so the sun wouldn't wake me, and I did close to 12 hours of sleep | 09:06 |
| mhb | nixternal: you slept all the way to Long? | 09:06 |
| nixternal | hehe | 09:06 |
| nixternal | usually I am a 6 or 7 hour sleeper...but I caught up on some sleep from Friday night I guess | 09:07 |
| mhb | nixternal: by the way, about Konqueror tricks: do you happen to know why Kubuntu's Konqueror always displays the tab bar? | 09:07 |
| mhb | nixternal: all the other browsers hide it if there's just one window | 09:07 |
| nixternal | I believe we make that a default | 09:07 |
| nixternal | I am not 100% positive though...maybe KDE makes that a default | 09:08 |
| mhb | nixternal: well, I wanted to know the rationale | 09:08 |
| nixternal | if I use other browsers, I change it to mock konqui | 09:08 |
| mhb | nixternal: I prefer the tab bar to be hidden so there's more space for content when I have only one tab open... I may be the only person in the world, though :o) | 09:09 |
| nixternal | hehe | 09:09 |
| nixternal | I guess I have just gotten used to it | 09:09 |
| nixternal | how do you change the resolution of the KDM window? | 09:18 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I noticed that lighttpd 1.4.11-3ubuntu3.2 is still sitting in dapper-proposed even after you released lighttpd 1.4.11-3ubuntu3.3 to dapper-updates. Dunno if that needs cleanup or not, but thought I'd mention it just in case. | 09:18 |
| mhb | nixternal: you mean the background one? | 09:19 |
| nixternal | well the resolution at the login screen is what I need to change | 09:20 |
| nixternal | it is huge right now | 09:20 |
| mhb | not sure | 09:20 |
| nixternal | it needs to be at 1440x900...i thought you could do it in kcontrol as I know I have done it before..but I cannot remember | 09:20 |
| mhb | ryanakca played with kdm some time back but he's on vacation now | 09:20 |
| nixternal | campin' with the bears | 09:21 |
| ScottK | nixternal: I thought it was "da Bears" where you are? | 09:22 |
| Riddell | ScottK: it can just stay there | 09:23 |
| ScottK | Riddell: OK. Thanks. | 09:23 |
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| fdoving | nixternal: i belive kdm will just use what is your default X resolution. if you change it with randr or something when you login that won't affect kdm. | 09:27 |
| nixternal | I changed it with System Settings and it didn't change..there is probably something stuck | 09:28 |
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| manchicken | mhb: I didn't know about the apport support. | 09:48 |
| manchicken | That's interesting. | 09:48 |
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| nixternal | anyone familiar with ksensors and/or hddtemp? | 10:32 |
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| mhb | ScottK: that guy you're dealing with on bug tracker probably encountered an amd64 adept breakage | 11:23 |
| ScottK | AH. | 11:23 |
| mhb | ScottK: because that's what has happened to me & nixternal today | 11:23 |
| ScottK | Is it fixed? | 11:23 |
| nixternal | nope | 11:23 |
| nixternal | FTBS | 11:23 |
| ScottK | Argh. | 11:24 |
| mhb | 23:02 < Riddell> pitti: could you give back adept on amd64, libept should be installable now | 11:24 |
| mhb | ScottK: ^^ | 11:24 |
| ScottK | But it hasn't happened yet? | 11:25 |
| mhb | ScottK: not yet, I'm afraid | 11:25 |
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| ScottK | ? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8699343/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-amd64.adept_2.1.3ubuntu4_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz | 11:26 |
| ScottK | I'm now confused. | 11:26 |
| ScottK | LP seems to think it's built. | 11:26 |
| mhb | 23:01 < Riddell> "gutsy amd64 Failed to build" do you have an amd64 mhb? | 11:27 |
| mhb | ^^ jr said it wasn't, at least it seems so to me | 11:27 |
| Riddell | ScottK: it's just been (re)built | 11:29 |
| Riddell | should be in the archives soonish | 11:29 |
| ScottK | Cool. | 11:30 |
| nixternal | not, cool! | 11:30 |
| nixternal | GROOVY! | 11:30 |
| nixternal | ;) | 11:30 |
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| mhb | anyone here ready for some testing? | 11:36 |
| === nixternal is always ready | ||
| mhb | nixternal: if you could check out https://code.launchpad.net/~martin.bohm/restricted-manager/k-r-m , debuild it, install it and try it, that'd be groovy | 11:40 |
| nixternal | roger that | 11:40 |
| mhb | nixternal: unfortunately it needs adept to install :o( | 11:40 |
| nixternal | I will do it on my 32bit box | 11:41 |
| nixternal | well if I build it I can use trusty ol' cli | 11:41 |
| nixternal | fetching it now | 11:41 |
| mhb | nixternal: it needs to be tested extensively, because if it gets uploaded tomorrow it might be one of the highlights for the next tribe | 11:42 |
| mhb | nixternal: err, intesively :o) | 11:42 |
| nixternal | roger that | 11:42 |
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| nixternal | howdy imbrandon | 11:46 |
| imbrandon | heya nix | 11:46 |
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| nixternal | how goeth the life? | 11:46 |
| imbrandon | brb , got some server issues to work on, bbiab | 11:46 |
| nixternal | ooh fun | 11:46 |
| imbrandon | good good, just a busy night | 11:46 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 11:46 |
| imbrandon | brb | 11:46 |
| nixternal | roger dodger | 11:47 |
| imbrandon | nixternal, know of a decient cpu-z replacement ( and no i dont mean "cat /proc/cpuinfo" is good nuff ) full GUI etc etc etc | 11:48 |
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| nixternal | KSensors | 11:48 |
| nixternal | err | 11:48 |
| nixternal | might be more than you want | 11:48 |
| imbrandon | nah, even more, i might just have to clobber a python-qt/kde app togather as a proof of concept | 11:49 |
| imbrandon | all the info is there its just spread out in /proc/* and other places | 11:49 |
| imbrandon | heh | 11:49 |
| nixternal | imbrandon: funny you say that, I was going to start working on one similar | 11:50 |
| nixternal | isn't cpu-z a windows only app? or is that what you are looking for? | 11:50 |
| imbrandon | nice, go for it, i'll test and maybe code a line or two if i get an itch, i really dont have the time to put into it | 11:50 |
| imbrandon | yea its a windows only app, but i want it for (k)ubuntu | 11:50 |
| imbrandon | should be simple, all the same info is explosed somewhere in the proc tree, it just needs to be gui-ified | 11:51 |
| nixternal | I will have to isntall it on Windows and check it out...create a gui that is similar and then rock from there | 11:51 |
| nixternal | KSensors is about the closest thing that I know of right now | 11:51 |
| imbrandon | there is probably screenshots somewhere, its a simple 2 or 3 tab app with no interaction | 11:51 |
| nixternal | KSensors is a dupe of Motherboard Monitor if you remember that | 11:52 |
| imbrandon | you only run it and it outputs comp info to the screen, like windows device manager for your motherboard and cpu on crack | 11:52 |
| nixternal | ahh | 11:52 |
| imbrandon | ok, sorry , got to run, back in a bit | 11:52 |
| nixternal | oh ya, I remember cpu-z | 11:53 |
| nixternal | as a matter of fact, someone kde-apps has written one with kommander I believe | 11:53 |
| imbrandon | nixternal, ahh yea, here we go, just like this ( and the other tabs ) http://news.softpedia.com/images/reviews/large/CPU-Z_01large.png | 11:54 |
| nixternal | haha, that is what I am reading right now | 11:54 |
| imbrandon | cool, i'll dig on kde-apps later | 11:54 |
| nixternal | ScottK: remember we were talking about project yesterday or what not? well the other app I was trying to think of was TaskJuggler...it is very similar as well...very nice app | 11:57 |
| ScottK | Ah. | 12:01 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 12:01 |
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