[12:22] ok, I'm confused. What's the difference between kde4libs and kdelibs5? === xRaich[o] 2x [n=raichoo@i577BDBF1.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-063-048.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:43] LaserJock: kde4libs doesn't exist [12:45] mhb: hmm, interesting, I wonder why synaptic is showing it to me then [12:45] update your package list? it was the old name for it [12:45] interesting, it just deps on kdelibs5 [12:46] must be a transitional package [12:46] that's kinda confusing [12:46] LaserJock: there's no such package in my repos [12:47] mhb: feisty universe [12:47] LaserJock: ah, feisty. Well, it's not in gutsy anymore. [12:48] why was it renamed? it seem quite inconsistent when everything else seems to be kde4* and I would at least expect it to be kdelib4 [12:48] LaserJock: it's totally confusing, I'm saying that all the time. [12:49] LaserJock: there was the debian package kdelibs4, which contained kde3 libraries ... so they just ++ it. [12:49] blah :-) [12:51] LaserJock: silly, I know. The best thing you can do is tell your opinion to Riddell or some other maintainer involved with kde4. [12:52] I just wondered what the reasoning was, I figured it must be something like that [12:55] alrighty, installing now, we'll see what all this KDE4 stuff is all about ;-) [12:57] LaserJock: about being unstable, mainly :o) [12:57] heh, well I only have a few apps I'm interested in [12:58] I'll be running it in Gnome, so we'll see [12:58] I don't mind some stability [01:11] geeze, kdelib5 is almost 100MB === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@pD950C5C1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === DaSkreech [n=skreech@katapult/ninja/daskreech] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-063-048.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@c-71-225-164-164.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:30] Heya [02:32] yo yo [02:32] Hi DaSkreech [02:32] How goes? [02:33] Fair to midland thanks. You? [02:35] manchicken|away: remember when I sent you the suggestion on how the adept-batch caption should be called? [04:01] mhb: Yeah, I haven't been able to get that done yet. === hunger_t [n=tobias@p54A73533.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:18] Wheee [04:18] Lots of work to be done on kss === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-063-048.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken_ [n=manchkn@74-134-231-37.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-55-253.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger_ [n=me@N960P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === huahua [n=huahua@60.20.54.67] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === Shely [n=Sea@60.20.54.67] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-55-253.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-063-048.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Stecchino [n=bart@d54C56F83.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-149-196.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tmske [n=thomas@dD5763506.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai [n=mars@ubuntu/member/marseillai] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Dinofly [n=dinofly@mar92-13-88-165-255-149.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t is now known as hunger === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-063-048.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pgquiles [n=pgquiles@137.Red-83-35-243.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@123.116.99.59] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tmske [n=thomas@dD5763506.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger_ is now known as apachelogger === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@pD950FB21.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger_ [n=me@N934P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger_ is now known as apachelogger === Arby [n=richard@82.152.178.44] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tmske [n=thomas@dD5763506.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ScottK-laptop [n=kitterma@static-72-81-252-22.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ScottK-laptop is now known as ScottK2 === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@pD950FB21.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:27] hmm ... [04:28] knetworkmanager does not like me :( [04:29] oh, i've just had a thought [04:29] Uh oh. [04:29] knetworkmanager seems to hate unencrypted networks, with ipw2945 cards. [04:29] ;-) [04:29] there's a bug on it [04:29] Yes. [04:30] so *that's* why i always have to use the old manual method while at uni [04:30] That would make sense. [04:30] knetworkmanager does not like my ethernet adaper at all :/ [04:30] he does not even show my rj45 lan === ScottK2 thought you were going to say we call it a security feature and move on. [04:30] ScottK2: heh :) [04:31] It works fine with my D-Link DWL-G650 rev C2. [04:32] no, it seems to be a ipw3945 thing [04:32] and those are nice cards (the dlinks) === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.1] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@katapult/developer/tvo] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=me@N934P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai_ [n=mars@AMarseille-156-1-88-124.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=Dax@122.2.251.129] has joined #kubuntu-devel === erov [n=j@c-76-22-137-36.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@adsl-76-212-62-2.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tmske [n=thomas@dD5763506.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tmske [n=thomas@dD5763506.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken_ [n=manchkn@74-134-231-37.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@p54A73533.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@adsl-76-212-62-2.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:37] manchicken_: adept_notifier is in reality adept_notifier_and_also_apport_handler ? [07:37] manchicken_: now I didn't know that [07:41] mhb: how is your grub-config-project going? [07:41] hi btw. :) [07:44] fdoving: hi, xerosis (who's not here atm) took over it because I am pretty busy with SoC this summer... but I haven't heard from him lately [07:44] fdoving: I'll ask him [07:45] ok, just curious. jhutchins suggested we should have such a tool and your project came to mind. :) [07:49] fdoving: hmm, xerosis hasn't done much with it in the last few weeks [07:49] ok. [07:50] fdoving: OTOH, one of the SoCers is developing a similar tool for Ubuntu and I gave him a backend I created, so I wonder if we could merge it back and create a quick frontend for it [07:51] that would be cool. [07:51] LaserJock should be mentoring him, I'll ask him when he's around === manchicken__ [n=manchkn@74-134-231-37.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@pD950FB21.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@p54976FED.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@adsl-76-212-62-2.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rbrunhuber_ [n=rbrunhub@p54976FED.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:15] manchicken__: has one of you manchickens noticed my question or did I ask in a bad time? === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-55-253.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:05] howdy people! [09:05] howdy nixternal [09:06] I slept way to long [09:06] I shut the blinds in the room so the sun wouldn't wake me, and I did close to 12 hours of sleep [09:06] nixternal: you slept all the way to Long? [09:06] hehe [09:07] usually I am a 6 or 7 hour sleeper...but I caught up on some sleep from Friday night I guess [09:07] nixternal: by the way, about Konqueror tricks: do you happen to know why Kubuntu's Konqueror always displays the tab bar? [09:07] nixternal: all the other browsers hide it if there's just one window [09:07] I believe we make that a default [09:08] I am not 100% positive though...maybe KDE makes that a default [09:08] nixternal: well, I wanted to know the rationale [09:08] if I use other browsers, I change it to mock konqui [09:09] nixternal: I prefer the tab bar to be hidden so there's more space for content when I have only one tab open... I may be the only person in the world, though :o) [09:09] hehe [09:09] I guess I have just gotten used to it [09:18] how do you change the resolution of the KDM window? [09:18] Riddell: I noticed that lighttpd 1.4.11-3ubuntu3.2 is still sitting in dapper-proposed even after you released lighttpd 1.4.11-3ubuntu3.3 to dapper-updates. Dunno if that needs cleanup or not, but thought I'd mention it just in case. [09:19] nixternal: you mean the background one? [09:20] well the resolution at the login screen is what I need to change [09:20] it is huge right now [09:20] not sure [09:20] it needs to be at 1440x900...i thought you could do it in kcontrol as I know I have done it before..but I cannot remember [09:20] ryanakca played with kdm some time back but he's on vacation now [09:21] campin' with the bears [09:22] nixternal: I thought it was "da Bears" where you are? [09:23] ScottK: it can just stay there [09:23] Riddell: OK. Thanks. === manchicken_ [n=manchkn@74-134-231-37.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:27] nixternal: i belive kdm will just use what is your default X resolution. if you change it with randr or something when you login that won't affect kdm. [09:28] I changed it with System Settings and it didn't change..there is probably something stuck === poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-65-174.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:48] mhb: I didn't know about the apport support. [09:48] That's interesting. === jjesse [n=jjesse@adsl-76-212-62-2.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=renate@p57AEF0AA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-65-174.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-65-174.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yveslu [n=yves@194.235.200.127] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh_ [n=claydoh@66-252-49-78.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yveslu [n=yves@194.235.200.127] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] [10:32] anyone familiar with ksensors and/or hddtemp? === apachelogger_ [n=me@N726P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.1] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Nightrose [n=lydia@amarok/rokymotion/nightrose] has joined #kubuntu-devel === never|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.1] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken [n=manchkn@ubuntu/member/manchicken] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:23] ScottK: that guy you're dealing with on bug tracker probably encountered an amd64 adept breakage [11:23] AH. [11:23] ScottK: because that's what has happened to me & nixternal today [11:23] Is it fixed? [11:23] nope [11:23] FTBS [11:24] Argh. [11:24] 23:02 < Riddell> pitti: could you give back adept on amd64, libept should be installable now [11:24] ScottK: ^^ [11:25] But it hasn't happened yet? [11:25] ScottK: not yet, I'm afraid === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:26] ? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8699343/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-amd64.adept_2.1.3ubuntu4_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz [11:26] I'm now confused. [11:26] LP seems to think it's built. [11:27] 23:01 < Riddell> "gutsy amd64 Failed to build" do you have an amd64 mhb? [11:27] ^^ jr said it wasn't, at least it seems so to me [11:29] ScottK: it's just been (re)built [11:29] should be in the archives soonish [11:30] Cool. [11:30] not, cool! [11:30] GROOVY! [11:30] ;) === claydoh__ [n=claydoh@66-252-50-151.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:36] anyone here ready for some testing? === nixternal is always ready [11:40] nixternal: if you could check out https://code.launchpad.net/~martin.bohm/restricted-manager/k-r-m , debuild it, install it and try it, that'd be groovy [11:40] roger that [11:40] nixternal: unfortunately it needs adept to install :o( [11:41] I will do it on my 32bit box [11:41] well if I build it I can use trusty ol' cli [11:41] fetching it now [11:42] nixternal: it needs to be tested extensively, because if it gets uploaded tomorrow it might be one of the highlights for the next tribe [11:42] nixternal: err, intesively :o) [11:42] roger that === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:46] howdy imbrandon [11:46] heya nix === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-019-237.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:46] how goeth the life? [11:46] brb , got some server issues to work on, bbiab [11:46] ooh fun [11:46] good good, just a busy night [11:46] ;) [11:46] brb [11:47] roger dodger [11:48] nixternal, know of a decient cpu-z replacement ( and no i dont mean "cat /proc/cpuinfo" is good nuff ) full GUI etc etc etc === imbrandon goes to google [11:48] KSensors [11:48] err [11:48] might be more than you want [11:49] nah, even more, i might just have to clobber a python-qt/kde app togather as a proof of concept [11:49] all the info is there its just spread out in /proc/* and other places [11:49] heh [11:50] imbrandon: funny you say that, I was going to start working on one similar [11:50] isn't cpu-z a windows only app? or is that what you are looking for? [11:50] nice, go for it, i'll test and maybe code a line or two if i get an itch, i really dont have the time to put into it [11:50] yea its a windows only app, but i want it for (k)ubuntu [11:51] should be simple, all the same info is explosed somewhere in the proc tree, it just needs to be gui-ified [11:51] I will have to isntall it on Windows and check it out...create a gui that is similar and then rock from there [11:51] KSensors is about the closest thing that I know of right now [11:51] there is probably screenshots somewhere, its a simple 2 or 3 tab app with no interaction [11:52] KSensors is a dupe of Motherboard Monitor if you remember that [11:52] you only run it and it outputs comp info to the screen, like windows device manager for your motherboard and cpu on crack [11:52] ahh [11:52] ok, sorry , got to run, back in a bit [11:53] oh ya, I remember cpu-z [11:53] as a matter of fact, someone kde-apps has written one with kommander I believe [11:54] nixternal, ahh yea, here we go, just like this ( and the other tabs ) http://news.softpedia.com/images/reviews/large/CPU-Z_01large.png [11:54] haha, that is what I am reading right now [11:54] cool, i'll dig on kde-apps later [11:57] ScottK: remember we were talking about project yesterday or what not? well the other app I was trying to think of was TaskJuggler...it is very similar as well...very nice app [12:01] Ah. [12:01] Thanks. === tmske [n=thomas@dD5E0A480.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel